#67: Protocols of Zion
Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the antisemitic plagiarized text The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, and reads some passages from it that strangely mirror a lot of Alex Jones' views about "the Globalists."
July 27, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
01:41:16
Participants
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Alex, I'm a first-time caller. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple of dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones. | ||
| And thank God we are back on novelty beverages this week. | ||
| Because four hours and three bottles of wine later, I don't remember my own name. | ||
| We did our best. | ||
| It was a necessary break from reality, perhaps, but let's not kid ourselves. | ||
| We're much better with Faygo. | ||
| Yes, we are. | ||
| We are drinking Faygo cream soda in honor of the Juggaloification of America. | ||
| We are all Juggalos now. | ||
| I am become Juggalo. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Destroyer of decency. | ||
| This is all madness all the time. | ||
| I don't even have time to look at the news without... | ||
| It's insanity. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| Everything has gone ass-backwards and we're living through the worst of things. | ||
| What is this? | ||
| The end times? | ||
| What do you even call this? | ||
| It very well must be. | ||
| Quite frankly. | ||
| I don't know how else to look at it. | ||
| It's pointless to even talk about it. | ||
| It's the end of America, at the very least. | ||
| It's pointless to even bring up all the bullshit that keeps happening back after day, which I guess is kind of the point. | ||
| It is trying to make us all super... | ||
| If we normalize it, then we stop fighting against it. | ||
| But at the same time, it's like, what do you do? | ||
| Short of starting to light shit on fire. | ||
| The idea of waiting to the 2018 midterm seems insane to me. | ||
| We're all going to die before then. | ||
| And it's not going to happen. | ||
| It's not going to be a fair election. | ||
| And that has nothing to do necessarily with Russia. | ||
| It's just not going to be a fair election anyway. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| The processes of gerrymandering and cross-check and that sort of shit. | ||
| It's all a disaster. | ||
| Voter suppression. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| We're done. | ||
| Well, guys, this has been great. | ||
| Play the outro, Dan. | ||
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I love you. | |
| The only thing I think we can do, at least you and I, is we can donate to causes. | ||
| We can call senators and hope that helps. | ||
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That doesn't. | |
| That doesn't. | ||
| I think it's been proven that calling senators is bullshit. | ||
| We need to find out where they live and just shit on their lawns. | ||
| If you have time, go for it. | ||
| Imagine thousands of people shitting on Senator Orrin Hatch's lawn. | ||
| If you have time, feel free to do that. | ||
| Help out however you can. | ||
| One of the ways we can help out is doing this show. | ||
| And you should call your senators and stuff. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| It's unsatisfying, but it is a good thing to do. | ||
| And if you could mail them your shit, that'd be great. | ||
| There needs to be some more kind of... | ||
| There needs to be some middle ground between the uselessness of tweeting and calling. | ||
| What world is this? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And then the other extreme of like, hey, there used to be a Capitol building. | ||
| Now it's rubble. | ||
| There's something in the middle and I think it's shitting on people's lawns. | ||
| That's the only idea I have right now. | ||
| I sign off. | ||
| Again, if you have the time. | ||
| It's a long trip to get down to the senator's house to shit on his yard. | ||
| Some of us have to go to work. | ||
| Some of us... | ||
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I don't know. | |
| How many representatives do we have here in Chicago? | ||
| Quite a few, I think. | ||
| Let's find them. | ||
| Shit on their yards. | ||
| You shit on their yards. | ||
| Something you shouldn't shit on is our new donators. | ||
| God, I love your transitions. | ||
| Love to give a shout-out and a welcome aboard to our new donator, new policy wonk. | ||
| What's up, Brian? | ||
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
| Thank you for donating. | ||
| Brian, welcome aboard! | ||
| We appreciate you very much. | ||
| Also, I'd like to give a shout-out to another new donator. | ||
| What's up out there, Alex? | ||
| How you doing? | ||
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I'm a policy wonk. | |
| Congratulations on your new policy wonk status. | ||
| Alex, we love you. | ||
| You can tell everyone at the... | ||
| The bars and house parties that you, sir, are... | ||
| Are the most boring person in the world if you're bringing up the... | ||
| As much as we want you to talk about it, don't go to a party and talk about it. | ||
| No, I'm not saying bring up our show at a party. | ||
| Just bring up that you're a policy walker. | ||
| Oh, yeah, you're a policy walker. | ||
| You can tell everybody all about the intricacies of bills. | ||
| I can't begin to describe how many times I've gotten laid just by being like, hey, you know, I'm a policy walker. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| It's a panty dropper, as they say on the streets. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we're going to be doing a very special episode wherein I defend my assertion. | ||
| That Alex Jones is largely basing his worldview on the widely discredited forgery, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So we're finally proving what we believed at the start of this podcast. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I'm not the only person who thinks this, but it's a bit of an assertion to make. | ||
| And we've said it a number of times on the show and discussed it, and I don't want our listeners to go read that book. | ||
| Because it's a waste of your time and it's full of bullshit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I, at the same time, recognize that we're making these claims and not really thoroughly backing them up. | ||
| And that's what I intend to do. | ||
| As is our stated objective. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's kind of a bullshit thing for us to take, you know, six months and just saying, he loves the protocol. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| He's secretly basing all this shit on that. | ||
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Right. | |
| So we'll discuss that today. | ||
| But first, a couple weeks back, Jordan. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Alex Jones had a guest on his show by the name of Robert David Steele. | ||
| Yes, I recall. | ||
| He went on to claim that globalists have Mars colonies, which they take babies to, to be slaves. | ||
| Because they can't get back, and there's a Mars colony, and they're stuck there, and now they're enslaved by the rich Mars globalists. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which is a proven strategy for white people for a long time. | ||
| Going to space? | ||
| No, just taking people who can't get back and making them work for you. | ||
| So, that's wild. | ||
| That claim that he made on Alex Jones' show is pretty wild. | ||
| And in the fallout from that, everybody started clowning on Alex. | ||
| Everyone started clowning on his show, like, Alex Jones thinks there's Mars bases, which he flatly denies, although we found clips from 2015 where he says that there are Mars bases. | ||
| He totally believes there are Mars bases. | ||
| But he started to say that the globalists set him up by Robert Steele, that he came onto the show to discredit it. | ||
| There's starting to be cracks within the Alex Jones-Robert Steele universe. | ||
| Oh, that's a web of deception already there. | ||
| So now what's really interesting is what also happened in the aftermath of this is that Robert David Steele went on Project Camelot. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Carrie Callahan! | ||
| To the rescue! | ||
| We've got her name wrong every time we've said it. | ||
| It's Carrie Cassidy. | ||
| I realized that. | ||
| You told me that it was Callahan. | ||
| That's what I thought, too. | ||
| I fell in love with her. | ||
| Now I find out... | ||
| It's all a lie. | ||
| I don't even know this person. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What else is she hiding from me? | ||
| I will tell you what this interview is all about on the other side of this clip, but I think it's important and interesting to hear how Robert Steele starts this interview. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| When I'm Carrie Cassidy from Project Camelot... | ||
| And I am here with Robert Steele, and we are doing a very unusual kind of Q&A here, and I'm going to let Robert take over. | ||
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So go ahead, Robert. | |
| Well, Carrie Cassidy, let me say first, I've been enormously impressed by everything you've done over your career. | ||
| I have seen all those who have slandered you, as I have been slandered recently by the Zionists. | ||
| And I absolutely embrace and support everything you've done. | ||
| You made no sign of being surprised by Robert David Steele blaming the Zionists. | ||
| What else is he gonna do? | ||
| I've seen the way that you, Carrie Cassidy, and I now have been attacked by the Zionists. | ||
| Now, is Cassidy usually being... | ||
| Can I still call her Carrie Callahan? | ||
| I don't mind. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Is she regularly attacked by Zionists? | ||
| Has she ever been attacked by Zionists? | ||
| I haven't listened to her enough to know where her head is on the whole thing. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But I definitely think she's been attacked by a bunch of people who, much like us, think that the stuff that she says is wacky bullshit. | ||
| So I think that's what's going on. | ||
| So Zionists are her globalists. | ||
| No, I don't think that's her cosmology. | ||
| I think that's Robert Steele's. | ||
| And he's bringing it in to her and being like, just like you have, I'm in the same boat. | ||
| Now, because I went on Alex Jones' show and said some crazy shit, and everybody's attacking me for it, it's the Zionists who are setting me up because I'm telling the truth. | ||
| And my girl Carrie isn't going to question that because I don't think she's ever questioned anything in her life. | ||
| She is the most credulous person in the history of the world. | ||
| She is there to believe whatever you tell her. | ||
| What proceeds to happen is that Robert Steele interviews Carrie Cassidy about the secret space program. | ||
| Wait, he interviews her? | ||
| Yes, and he does so in a fairly bullying manner. | ||
| He's pretty rude to her, and he's like, I'm trying to do this, there's set guidelines, blah, blah. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| But what ends up coming up, and he signs off on, is that the Nazis from Project Paperclip, they are the secret space program. | ||
| Good. | ||
| They abuse people. | ||
| They create super soldiers in numbers of tens of thousands, most likely. | ||
| Nazis are bad. | ||
| But there's no way to tell. | ||
| So there's all this... | ||
| There's all that sort of standard fare. | ||
| I mean, we talked about super soldiers on the last Project Camelot thing. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Which is a great one. | ||
| One of the new revelations that we find is that Vietnam... | ||
| Oh, there we go. | ||
| Now I'm weighing. | ||
| This was not about communism. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There were Stargates. | ||
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Wait. | |
| Was Vietnam about communism? | ||
| Wasn't it about the creeping North Vietnamese menace? | ||
| The communist menace? | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, it wasn't... | ||
| I think it was more about... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it was more about rich people want and get rich. | ||
| Well, look. | ||
| We can peel back whatever layer you want, but on some level, the media told people it was about communism. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| So, what the media wouldn't dare tell you is that the truth is that there were stargates. | ||
| There were also stargates in Iraq, and that's why the Iraq War happened, because... | ||
| Our man Saddam Hussein was going to allow in alien races through that portal that he had, and we had to shut that down. | ||
| That is classic Saddam! | ||
| That is classic Saddam. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| If there's one thing I know about autocratic dictators, they love letting in aliens. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Just like ours. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Trump loves letting in aliens. | ||
| So he went rogue with this Stargate power, and that's why we had to go into Iraq. | ||
| That's why we were in Vietnam. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I was like, what the fuck? | ||
| What about Korea? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| She doesn't get too specific. | ||
| I want to know. | ||
| Now I just want the explanation for all of America's war. | ||
| To be... | ||
| Stargates. | ||
| ...subressing Stargates? | ||
| Mostly, it is. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, I was like, this is wild. | ||
| I've got to look into this more. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| So, I was like, where is she getting this, that Vietnam was about Stargates? | ||
| And I found that she did an interview with a soldier who was in Vietnam who had been getting hypnotic regressions with a therapist. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| And he... | ||
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He asserts... | |
| that in Vietnam he was fighting giant beetle beans. | ||
| So... | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Do you know what their names are? | ||
| Tet. | ||
| That's why it was called the Tet Offensive. | ||
| Oh my god, this makes so much sense. | ||
| They brought the beetles in through the Stargate. | ||
| There was a mass hallucination that was done to all of the United States soldiers. | ||
| That men in black thing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So they don't remember this. | ||
| Only through hypnotic regression. | ||
| Can you recall that the tet species were the... | ||
| Giant beetles. | ||
| Yeah, were the backbone of that strategic maneuver. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Gotcha. | ||
| The VC stands for vicious critters. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They really got to get a new one then. | ||
| Suffice it to say, I was like, wow, she's basing all of this on an interview that she did with this Vietnam soldier who has PTSD, and I feel really bad for him. | ||
| I don't want to make fun of him. | ||
| He's doing the best he can. | ||
| No, he sounds great. | ||
| But he has this hypnotherapist who's also in the interview. | ||
| I start to get the sense that maybe this is about her. | ||
| Oh, is it? | ||
| Oh, a hypnotherapist discovering giant beetles in Vietnam? | ||
| You think it might be about her? | ||
| Maybe she wants a little bit of publicity there? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, I was like, Jesus Christ. | ||
| This is the wildest shit. | ||
| She's referencing this interview that she did while she's talking with Robert Steele. | ||
| And Robert Steele the whole time is like, you're the best, you're doing the best work, you're amazing. | ||
| He believes all this shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He believes there are beetle beings in Vietnam. | ||
| He believes that wars have been over Stargates. | ||
| And Alex Jones has had him as a guest on his show repeatedly. | ||
| This wasn't the first time he was on he was talking about Mars bases. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex either doesn't know what his guests believe or doesn't care that this guy is certifiably nuts. | ||
| Um, do any of these people care? | ||
| I feel like Steel... | ||
| Well, yeah, but you're not one of those people. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| I feel like Steel doesn't actually believe in Stargates or whatever it is he's talking about. | ||
| But he's talking to Carrie Callahan, and she's telling him about Stargates, and he doesn't want to be the guy who's like, No! | ||
| So they just agree back and forth. | ||
| Like, she says the shit she wants to say. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He says the shit he wants to say. | ||
| Never the twain shall meet. | ||
| There is some of that. | ||
| That's probably a fair assessment. | ||
| But anyway, I just wanted to take this opportunity to say, like, your guests are dumb, Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Your tax guys who come in and talk about tax being a crime. | ||
| It's like, well, yeah, his dad embezzled a bunch of money and didn't pay taxes, and he's been in prison for 20 years. | ||
| Of course he thinks taxes are a crime. | ||
| You've got the guy who comes in and talks about Mars bases. | ||
| You think it's a fucking setup. | ||
| He believes all this shit and has been on Project Camelot a bunch of times. | ||
| What do you expect to happen? | ||
| It's not a setup. | ||
| Do some fucking legwork. | ||
| Wesley Snipes should go on the show and be like, taxes are evil. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So, that was a little bit of fun. | ||
| Now, Jordan, let's get to... | ||
| The protocols. | ||
| I wish I had a spooky sound effect. | ||
| What do you know about these here protocols? | ||
| I don't know anything. | ||
| Nothing? | ||
| Nuh-uh. | ||
| So it'll just be the same. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Like Alex Jones, you don't know anything about him. | ||
| Well, that was the point! | ||
| I guess so. | ||
| So, now we can do the intro. | ||
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Right. | |
| This is a podcast where Dan knows everything about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. | ||
| Not everything, but... | ||
| And Jordan doesn't know anything about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. | ||
| Therein we find our fun. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So what I intend to do on this episode, if I had more time to plan, what I would have done... | ||
| Is I would have taken a bunch of passages from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and a bunch of quotes from Alex Jones. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I would have had you try and guess which was which. | ||
| Oh, that would be a fun game. | ||
| And I don't think you would be able to tell a number of them apart. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because I didn't have that kind of time, I just have a bunch of passages that I've found from reading Protocols of the Elders of Zion. | ||
| I've read it before in the past. | ||
| But going through, and would I mean to prove... | ||
| Is not that Alex Jones has based his entire philosophy on the protocols. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But a lot of it. | ||
| A lot of his ideas about the globalists come directly and spiritually from this text. | ||
| So you believe that he has read it? | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| And that he has just... | ||
| Most likely. | ||
| That he has just taken that... | ||
| And changed it from Zion to globalists. | ||
| And whenever they say Goyam, it's us. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| The West, as it were. | ||
| I believe that that is possibly true, but another possibility is if you dig into a number of things that he actually discusses that he finds formative... | ||
| A lot of those are inspired by the protocols also. | ||
| So it could just be that we need to shorten it. | ||
| Protocols of the Elder. | ||
| Let's call it the protocols. | ||
| We're going to call it PEZ. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Okay, so none dare call it a conspiracy as a PEZ dispenser. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what I was hoping for the moment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And to a greater degree, Alex Jones himself has become a massive PEZ dispenser. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| He's just shooting out these same ideas. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But what he's not doing is really recognizing the roots. | ||
| And where they come from. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So in the Independence Day form of this, Pez is the mothership that's pinging the signals to the small ships around the Earth. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then they're blowing shit up. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I suppose that's fair. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I do want to also still give the caveat that I think that he has a lot of other insane sources that he gets stuff from, and this isn't fully explanatory of everything. | ||
| But as we go along, I think you'll see many, many very important pieces of his beliefs. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion first appeared in print in Russia in 1903. | ||
| They were subsequently reprinted in a book in 1905, and then is a chapter in a book called The Great in the Small and the Antichrist by Sergei Niles. | ||
| And then immediately after that... | ||
| This chapter from his book becomes a pamphlet. | ||
| It gets widely distributed. | ||
| So Pez is really small. | ||
| At this point, yes. | ||
| Okay, so it starts out really small. | ||
| Very much so, yeah. | ||
| And it will be expanded upon. | ||
| Yes, massively. | ||
| As a pamphlet, it gets widely distributed. | ||
| People start to read it, and it starts to have an effect. | ||
| Most people believe that the actual writing of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was done by Russian intelligence. | ||
| Or by, like, Prussian intelligence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 1900. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So they believe that it was a concerted effort to demonize a population back then. | ||
| It was propaganda. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And if you really get deep into why people do that sort of thing, it really goes back to the roots of antisemitism. | ||
| Which, I don't think this is the whole story. | ||
| Well, I believe the roots of antisemitism are the murder of our... | ||
| Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. | ||
| Right. | ||
|
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Totally. | |
| No. | ||
| The roots of anti-Semitism go back to the fact that Christians in the early days were unable to commit usury. | ||
| They weren't able to loan money with interest. | ||
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Oh! | |
| The only people who were able to do that were Jews. | ||
| Were the Jews. | ||
| And the Jews were a looked-down-upon population early on, and they were not allowed certain jobs. | ||
| They weren't allowed to be in certain industries. | ||
| And so the only way that they could make money... | ||
| Was to make loans to people. | ||
| And so they did that. | ||
| Merchant of Venice style. | ||
| And they were wildly successful. | ||
| They became super successful. | ||
| And everyone got mad. | ||
| And they're like, you gotta get out of our country. | ||
| We've tried to force you into this box. | ||
| And you succeeded in that box. | ||
| So fuck off. | ||
| You can't do that here. | ||
| You gotta go. | ||
| Our plan backfired horribly on us. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that leads to... | ||
| And the Christians couldn't do usury because of the Bible. | ||
| The Bible. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The thing that they profess to believe. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So they have a history of constantly getting kicked out of places. | ||
| And when you're new, coming into a new place, you're always looked at as different. | ||
| You're not looked at as the local rightful population of a place. | ||
| So the entire history of the nomadic nation of Jews, you know, throughout various nations that they... | ||
| Go to make a lot of money through loans because that's what they have to do. | ||
| Then they are kicked out. | ||
| It's sort of a story that repeats quite a bit over the history of Judaism. | ||
| The initial prejudice against them only expands to further prejudice, forcing them to leave where the cycle repeats anew. | ||
| And is much more harshly reinforced. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Because they already have the word from the other place they got kicked out of, don't trust these guys. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's some of that too. | ||
| And so, over the course of history, there's just been a real black mark on the Jewish population that is unfair. | ||
| And usually, like almost all the stuff you end up hearing... | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Of them succeeding against all odds and then getting thrown out of places. | ||
| So people still hate the Jews because of money? | ||
| Mostly, yeah. | ||
| And I mean, that is a large portion of what the protocols talk about, too. | ||
| They frame this money grubbiness, that even feels dirty to say, but that sort of mythologized nature, and they turn it into, like, this has been their plan all along. | ||
| Since way back, this is all their plan. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Their plan was for us to horribly segregate them and force them into a job thinking that it will never be successful. | ||
| Then they became successful and that was their plan all along. | ||
| Or they were horribly segregated against then once they figured out that the thing they got segregated into was super successful, they bided their time and have planned revenge since. | ||
| Oh, that's smart. | ||
| I think they have a good case for it. | ||
| That goes back to the entire thing that we talk about, about people really projecting what they think they deserve. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, this trend just kept on going, and this pamphlet comes out, becomes really popular. | ||
| And the thing about it is, when asked about where it came from, like, why did it get published? | ||
| The years change when this was supposed to have happened. | ||
| The years change when people came into possession of the original manuscript. | ||
| The story of how it came to their hands. | ||
| Espionage and people breaking into the Jewish elders' sanctum and stealing it. | ||
| Of course, of course. | ||
| There's all this stuff, but it's now, you know, it's all, again, just mythologized garbage. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And the fact that the stories... | ||
| Like the Bible. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the fact that the stories keep changing just lends no credibility to anything. | ||
| Like, it is... | ||
| It's early 1900, but that's not a time that we don't still have decent records of. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We have decent records from 300 BC. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know. | ||
| So, in 1920 through 1922, Henry Ford published 500,000 copies of the Protocols of Elders of Zion. | ||
| Oh, that fucker. | ||
| And he started to repackage some of it and publish them in articles and newspapers he owned with titles like The International Jew, The World's Foremost Problem. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, he just started to use it as really potent anti-Semitic propaganda. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Around this same time that he is publishing these... | ||
| It comes out that it's a forgery. | ||
| It comes out that they have found proof, researchers have found proof, that it is a complete fraud and actually stolen from multiple pre-existing manuscripts. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| From documents that are very different in nature, just ideas from them are packaged whole cloth. | ||
| Some paragraphs are even just stolen from stuff. | ||
| Just straight up plagiarizing. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And so this comes out, but that doesn't stop Henry Ford from... | ||
| Continuing to push it as anti-Semitic propaganda. | ||
| Reality has never gotten in the way of propaganda. | ||
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| As we all know. | ||
| He even goes on to, and Goebbels says about the same thing later, Henry Ford and Goebbels both have very similar perspectives on this, shockingly. | ||
| Who would have guessed? | ||
| Yeah, that the actual text might be a forgery, but the ideas contained inside them are true. | ||
| Right, right, right, right. | ||
| Which is... | ||
| I mean, there's no way around that. | ||
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| There's no way to argue that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is interesting, though, because... | ||
| My bigotry is so strong that I don't care if what I should be basing it on has been debunked. | ||
| No, it's a feeling. | ||
| It's a feeling. | ||
| It's very dangerous. | ||
| That does make sense, though, why Nazism still has such a strong hold in the United States, because we started it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We started the Nazi propaganda party. | ||
| I mean, the 500,000 copies of this bullshit that the Jews are trying to take over the world, and they will end up killing us all, all the goy in the world, that is happening in America in 1920. | ||
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| So, great. | ||
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| God bless America! | ||
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Anyways. | |
| Hitler was very inspired by the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. | ||
| He believed in them to at least some extent, at least definitely the point that they made. | ||
| He would go on to write stuff that supported them and referred, interestingly, to Jews as vampires. | ||
| Which is something that Alex Jones does a lot. | ||
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| Not saying that necessarily proves anything, but it is interesting to go back. | ||
| Globalists are vampires. | ||
| Jews were vampires. | ||
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| And for, I mean, Alex uses it in the context of child molesters a whole bunch. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But the way that Hitler uses it is within the, they suck goy nations dry. | ||
| Money and resources and all the like. | ||
| Which I actually don't think Alex Jones would disagree with. | ||
| Except if you change the phrasing. | ||
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| From Jew to globalist. | ||
| So, like I said, in the 20s, and perhaps even a little bit before that, people started to discover these very similar things in other books. | ||
| One of them, the two main things that it's taken from, are a book called Biarritz, which is an 1868 novel by the anti-Semitic German novelist Hermann Goetsch. | ||
| The Gurch! | ||
| Yeah, it was from 1868. | ||
| There's a chapter in it titled, In the Jewish Cemetery. | ||
| And it basically describes a bunch of really powerful Jewish people getting together in a cemetery and plotting nefarious deeds. | ||
| Which is very, very thematically similar to the Protocols. | ||
| And a lot of it is whole hog taken and repurposed. | ||
| The other piece that is widely, widely plagiarized within the Protocols Is a book called Conversations in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu, which came out in 1864. | ||
| It is basically exactly what the title says. | ||
| It's just a dialogue in hell where Machiavelli argues in favor of despotism. | ||
| He thinks that despotism is the way to go and people don't deserve their freedoms. | ||
| And Montesquieu argues on the side of liberalism. | ||
| And that people should be free and what have you. | ||
| Who broke into hell and got that recording? | ||
| That's a scoop! | ||
| That is a scoop! | ||
| So here are a couple... | ||
| Just side-by-side comparisons to give you a sense of the level of plagiarism. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| This is from the Machiavelli Dialogue in Hell, spoken by Machiavelli. | ||
| Like the god Vishnu, my press will have a hundred arms, and these arms will give their hands to all the different shades of opinion throughout the country. | ||
| Now here's from the protocols. | ||
| These newspapers, like the Indian god Vishnu, will be possessed of hundreds of hands. | ||
| Each will be feeling the pulse of various public opinion. | ||
| Sounds like a bad book report. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Citing Vishnu specifically, hundreds of hands, that's very clearly a rip-off. | ||
| Yeah, and if Machiavelli is talking about Vishnu in hell, we got a lot more issues going on. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Here's another one. | ||
| This is Montesquieu speaking. | ||
| Now, I understand the figure of the god Vishnu. | ||
| Again, obsessed with Vishnu. | ||
| You have a hundred arms like the Indian Idol, and each of your fingers touches a spring. | ||
| Here's from the protocols. | ||
| Our government will resemble the Hindu god Vishnu. | ||
| Each of our hundred hands will hold one spring of the social machinery of state. | ||
| I mean, it's just very obvious. | ||
| That's words. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's tons of these. | ||
| There's tons of examples of just direct ripoffs. | ||
| And the dialogue in hell between Machiavelli and Montesquieu... | ||
| It's not about anti-Semitism. | ||
| It doesn't have anything to do with the Jews. | ||
| It has to do with which way is better to sort of take over a country. | ||
| Despotism or liberalism, which is the preferred system. | ||
| But so many of the ideas, so many of the things are just repackaged, repurposed, and used to be complete bigots. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So, I want, at this point, I hope, I don't know if I have, but if you're interested, you can do a lot more digging into the specifics of it being a forgery, but it is a fucking forgery. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It's been proven over and over again, and anyone who doesn't believe that doesn't Because they feel. | |
| Right. | ||
| They feel. | ||
| They have the emotional hatred of Jews and they don't want to deal with reality in order to kind of correct that. | ||
| I do feel a little weird about the fact that I have the Protocols of the Elders of Zion on my Kindle. | ||
| Yeah, well, your phone is a Pez dispenser. | ||
| So I will now begin our portion of the analysis of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I like the officious nature of your words there. | ||
| I don't know how to do this. | ||
| I will now begin. | ||
| Motion to commence. | ||
| Seconded. | ||
| I have to second my own motions? | ||
| Yeah, I was going to say, I wasn't going to do that at all. | ||
| So, the way that it's set up is as an address. | ||
| It is some speaker in the tribunal group. | ||
| The learned elders of Zion have gathered for their meeting. | ||
| It's supposed to have taken place, I believe, in 1901. | ||
| And, I mean, if that's the case, then... | ||
| You know, 1860-whatever text predating and saying the exact same thing. | ||
| Very much. | ||
| Very dicey. | ||
| But then even beyond that, the year changed. | ||
| I think what it was was they claimed that it was from 1900, and it turns out they met in 1901. | ||
| And so the initial claim of when that came from could not have been true. | ||
| But the elders of Zion do exist. | ||
| No. | ||
| Or this meeting happened and there were elders? | ||
| Jewish organizations meet. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| And Zionism was a thing back then. | ||
| Like, Theodore Herzl has a book called The Jewish State that is also widely cited as an inspiration for this. | ||
| And it's basically just a text about how the Jews need their own state. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because they keep getting kicked out of everywhere because of bullshit like this! | ||
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| And say what you want about Zionism. | ||
| I'm not fully on board with it. | ||
| I think that Israel has a whole ton of problems. | ||
| Oh boy, do they! | ||
| And that's an understatement. | ||
| Oh boy, do they! | ||
| And a reductive statement on my part. | ||
| But at the same time, the Zionism that existed in the early 1900s was not the same thing that we associate Zionism with now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We associate Zionism now as a term with Jewish supremacy. | ||
| Like, that is sort of the one-to-one mental thing that we make between those words. | ||
| Back then, Zionism largely was about, we gotta... | ||
| Hey, we get kicked out of everywhere. | ||
| We gotta find a place for us to be our own. | ||
| Because we're not nomadic. | ||
| We're forced into nomadery. | ||
| Yeah, and so that book by Theodor Herzl, Der Judenstaat, came out in 1896. | ||
| And here's just the conclusion of it. | ||
| Man, anything in German that involves Jews really bums me out. | ||
| Der Judenstadt? | ||
| Ooh, not good. | ||
| Not good. | ||
| I don't like hearing that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he says, The world will be freed by our liberty, enriched by our wealth, magnified by our greatness. | ||
| And whatever we attempt there to accomplish for our own welfare will react powerfully and beneficially for the good of humanity. | ||
| That's sort of an encapsulation of what this Theodor Herzl Zionism was in the late 1800s and into the early 1900s. | ||
| Right, and you could shorten it to I Heart Maccabees. | ||
| The Maccabeans. | ||
| I get what you're doing. | ||
| Don't patronize me like that. | ||
| A little dismissive. | ||
| Very disappointing. | ||
| Very disappointing. | ||
| So, that is a good sort of aspiration. | ||
| At that point, the Jewish people clearly did need some place to be. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And whether that could have been America, where they're just treated as equals, and everybody gets to be happy, and they don't get run off, sure, that would be great. | ||
| Or their own country's great, too. | ||
| At the same time, all they're saying in this sort of declaration is what anybody who's establishing a country says. | ||
| We deserve to be free. | ||
| The world will benefit from our freedom. | ||
| We will enrich humanity by whatever we are able to create. | ||
| It's a positive message, and we fucking have it in our Declaration of Independence. | ||
| Yeah, which is true of everybody. | ||
| The world will be a better place if you stop fucking with us and treat us like equals. | ||
| Right, but... | ||
| Instead of taking that message, people got really mad and really scared. | ||
| And started fucking with them and not treating them like equals. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And so this idea of the Jewish Council meeting comes to be in this Protocols of the Elders of Zion. | ||
| It's one person, ostensibly, giving a speech about what has happened over the last hundred years and the plans that this council has for the next hundred and what they're going to do to people. | ||
| And Jewish supremacy and blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Now, I am just going to read you the things that I highlighted, and I'll just let you respond to them. | ||
| And also, I recognize that in order for any of this to hit home, you have to have listened to a fair amount of Alex Jones. | ||
| All of our podcasts. | ||
| Or just any Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I apologize in advance. | ||
| Listen to another episode. | ||
| Here's the first one. | ||
| This episode does seem like it's more for you. | ||
| It's important, though. | ||
| Yeah, no, no, I agree with you that it's important, but it's like, you're doing this because it's like, I need everybody to know... | ||
| That I'm not making this up. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Unlike Alex Jones, we're gonna go through the fucking documents. | ||
| We are. | ||
| He's got 30 headlines on his desk right now, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| I have zero headlines. | ||
| 30 headlines, he's gotta get through all of them. | ||
| Here's the first headline. | ||
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| It must be noted that men with bad instincts are more in number than the good. | ||
| And therefore, the best results in governing them are attained by violence and terrorization and not by academic discussions. | ||
| That definitely sounds like how Alex Jones says the globalists think about us. | ||
| Yeah, I don't like that. | ||
| He says that they think that we're stupid and that the only way that they, you know, want to deal with us is through creating... | ||
| They're controlling us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| Through false flags, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Because we're, you know, because as Alex Jones states in the past, you know, We're the patriots and we're far outnumbered by the asleep and we're far destroyed by the globalists and so on. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Here's another one. | ||
| The next passage. | ||
| Political freedom is an idea but not a fact. | ||
| This idea one must know how to apply whenever it appears necessary with this bait of an idea to attract the masses of the people to one's party for the purpose of crushing another who is an authority. | ||
| This task is rendered easier if the opponent has himself been infected with the idea of freedom, so-called liberalism, and for the sake of an idea is willing to yield some of his power. | ||
| It is precisely here that the triumph of our theory appears. | ||
| The slackened reins of government are immediately, by the law of life, caught up and gathered together by a new hand. | ||
| Because the blind might of the nation cannot for one single day exist without guidance, and the new authority merely fits into the place of the old, already weakened by liberalism. | ||
| Sounds very familiar. | ||
| I mean, I don't know if Alex could use most of those words in their proper context. | ||
| Perhaps not, but, I mean, look at it. | ||
| He has his conception. | ||
| That's like Alex reading Shakespeare. | ||
| Like, it would not be good. | ||
| It would not go well. | ||
| Well, I mean, his conception largely is that liberalism is a trick in order to get us to socialism, which leads to communism, which leads to tyranny. | ||
| Or despotism, if you want to use these more familiar words to today's episode. | ||
| And that's just boom. | ||
| That's what that's saying. | ||
| You're already infected with liberty, this idea of liberalism. | ||
| And because of that, you're willing to let go of some of your freedoms. | ||
| You're willing to let go of some of the control of the government, and these shady globalists behind the scenes are just going to take over the slack. | ||
| Whatever slack you give, they're going to take it. | ||
| Therefore, every game is a zero-sum game. | ||
| You lose an inch to the globalists, they're going to take two. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Wow, that sucks. | ||
| I don't like these Zionists right now. | ||
| No, they're pretty bad. | ||
| They're not good. | ||
| They're pretty bad. | ||
| Good thing they're not real. | ||
| So, in this next piece... | ||
| Like you're a band? | ||
| Like, guys, in this next song... | ||
| I got my set list together. | ||
| This one... | ||
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| This one's off my third album. | ||
| How I felt about that. | ||
| It is indispensable for our purpose that wars, so far as possible, should not result in territorial gains. | ||
| War will thus be brought on an economic ground, where the nations will not fail to perceive, in the assistance we give, the strength of our predominance, and this state of things will put both sides at the mercy of our international agenter, which possesses millions of eyes, ever on the watch, and unhampered by any limitations whatsoever. | ||
| Our international rights will then wipe out national rights in the proper sense of right. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So the Zionists in this circumstance are not even really interested in... | ||
| Like, there is the idea of a nation, but their main goal is to be... | ||
| Everywhere. | ||
| Their main goal is to be international. | ||
| So by spreading their money around, people become dependent upon them. | ||
| And then their power over all nations is supreme. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So they want to go global. | ||
| They want to be global. | ||
| And what they're saying there, too, is that... | ||
| You know, wars can't... | ||
| Like, you can't allow countries to take over other countries. | ||
| Like, that's just going to be a mess. | ||
| You don't want to do that. | ||
| Yeah, you don't need territory. | ||
| Make sure that everything that is done is strictly financial, which Alex Jones talks all the time about globalists controlling the money system. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And what have you, playing governments against each other whenever they have wars. | ||
| And it says right there. | ||
| And they're getting rid of sovereignty, which is exactly what this Pez is saying. | ||
| Our international rights will then wipe out national rights. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Everything will be on an international, global level as opposed to your own national concerns. | ||
| I swear if these guys took just what we've said so far to a bank to get a loan for a small business startup, they would get it so fast. | ||
| This is such a great plan. | ||
| It's not a bad plan. | ||
| No. | ||
| But that's the other thing that really needs to come up. | ||
| I mean, it's impossible, but it's a great plan. | ||
| Analysts who have gone over this also... | ||
| Basically, I mean, it's kind of the same criticism that I would make of Alex Jones, is like, wide swaths of generalities, generalizations, truisms, and stuff like that. | ||
| Like, liberty is good! | ||
| Alex will scream stuff like that. | ||
| Like, I believe in humanity! | ||
| It's like, that doesn't really mean anything. | ||
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| No specifics. | ||
| And in the same way, you go through this entire book. | ||
| I hesitate to call it a book. | ||
| But you go through it, and what you see is a lot of stuff that's like... | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Because there is stuff about, like, the police. | ||
| We gotta militarize the police and stuff like that. | ||
| And it's like, well, yeah, that's... | ||
| Nah, fuck the police. | ||
| Yeah, but, I mean, there's stuff like that. | ||
| It's like, the state will be in much more control if there's more police. | ||
| It's like, yeah, that's true. | ||
| Theoretically. | ||
| Well, yeah, right. | ||
| It seems like axiomatic. | ||
| It's just A equals A. Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, great. | ||
| Here's another passage. | ||
| In the hands of the states today, there is a great force that creates the movement of thought in the people, and that is the press. | ||
| Ooh, I bet they're bad. | ||
| The part played by the press is to keep pointing our requirements, supposed to be indispensable, to give voice to the complaints of the people, to express and to create discontent. | ||
| Oh, so the press is bad! | ||
| Press is bad. | ||
| Press is bad, and they're going out of their way to disseminate... | ||
| False information to make everybody feel bad. | ||
| Yes, because in this conception, the elders of Zion have taken over the press, and in Alex Jones' conception, the globalists have plants and basically control All of the mainstream media, the MSM. | ||
| Oh, I didn't know that the elders took over the press in this. | ||
| Through the press, we have gained the power to influence while remaining ourselves in the shade. | ||
| Thanks to the press, we have got the gold in our hands, notwithstanding that we have had to gather it out of the oceans of blood and tears. | ||
| It's a descriptive sentence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Who's blood and tears? | ||
| Our blood and tears? | ||
| The elders? | ||
| The humans. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| The goyim. | ||
| That is... | ||
| So... | ||
| That is absolutely evidence that it's an intelligence service working for a government. | ||
| Because what else would a government, especially an autocratic government, want other than the demonization of the free press? | ||
| They want control over the dissemination of information. | ||
| It's a good thing that we've inoculated ourselves against that. | ||
| Sure, never happened. | ||
| Never happened here. | ||
| It can't happen anymore. | ||
| Nuh-uh, we're past it. | ||
| But more to the point, I hope, at this point, you're starting to see many, many shades of the fairly important pieces of Alex Jones' world philosophy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And these globalists that he's super afraid of. | ||
| Dude, I'll be goddamned if I don't see many shades of the fucking Congress we have right now. | ||
| Well, I think that that is kind of an issue. | ||
| Yeah, I think there's a lot of these dudes. | ||
| Well, because Alex Jones is very much... | ||
| Not up front about a lot of the things that underlie his belief in the globalists. | ||
| He is given somewhat of a pass. | ||
| And whenever he gets accused of being anti-Semitic or anything like that, he gets to fall back and be like, that's not what I'm talking about. | ||
| You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. | ||
| It's a globalist. | ||
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| And because he has that sort of cushion between him and the truth, it's easy for other people who are conservative-minded to be tricked and not realize that what underlies his beliefs is massive, And now that we have people who are very much in the same ilk as Alex Jones, | ||
| who are gaining intense prominence in conservative media, you have Alex Jones, you have Drudge, you have Breitbart, you have World Net Daily, you have all these sites that put out very similar sort of content. | ||
| And reinforce each other, and back up the globalist narrative, you end up having a conservative world that is largely accidentally, or intentionally, I'm not entirely sure, based on a lot of this. | ||
| And I don't know if ever, I don't, it's not that I don't think anyone knows, because a lot of people do know. | ||
| A lot of smart people know. | ||
| We would hope. | ||
| But I don't know if the people who are under the sway of this stuff and believe this stuff really recognize the roots of it. | ||
| To me, that's kind of scary, because now you have people who are motivated by things that are anti-Semitic in origin being able to fight for the same goal without admitting that, well, what I'm afraid of is these Jew bankers. | ||
| Well, I don't think it's that. | ||
| I think from what I've heard so far, what we're dealing with is just a... | ||
| not anti-Semitic, but... | ||
| So it's almost the reverse. | ||
| Instead of a nation's intelligence service disseminating information on this really small group of people in order to, I'm assuming, steal all their money whenever they're kicked out. | ||
| Something along those lines. | ||
| Instead, it's reversed. | ||
| So now a small group of white people are using these same things to demonize everybody that's not white people. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I mean, that's why you can exchange Jew for globalist, because you're not going after Jews. | ||
| You're going after Jews and black people and Muslims and whomever. | ||
| You're going after everybody who's not white. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| Let's get back to the text. | ||
| So this next part is about how they, you know, Alex Jones likes to talk about how when the globalists will create such strife and such a negative position that they will reveal themselves as the savior and will beg for their help and will fall under their spell. | ||
| Right. | ||
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| Well, no, it's the problem reaction solution. | ||
| They create a terrible... | ||
| A living situation that's totally awful, and then they give us the solution, and we take it. | ||
| We bite. | ||
| It's the Hegelian dialect. | ||
| And here we go. | ||
| Nowadays, with the destruction of the aristocracy, the people have fallen into the grips of merciless money-grinding scoundrels who have laid a pitiless and cruel yoke upon the necks of the workers. | ||
| We appear on the scene as alleged saviors of the worker from this oppression when we propose to him to enter the ranks of our fighting forces, socialists, anarchists, communists. | ||
| We are interested in just the opposite. | ||
| In the diminution! | ||
| The killing out of the goyim. | ||
| Our power is in the chronic shortness of food and physical weakness of the worker, because by all that, this implies he is made a slave of our will, and he will not find in his own authorities either the strength or energy to set against our will. | ||
| Hunger creates the right of capital to rule the worker more surely than it was given by the aristocracy by the legal authority of kings. | ||
| So, in there, saying that... | ||
| Because there are no kings anymore, and there's all this capitalism, the workers are being taken advantage of, and they're being enslaved, essentially, and we will show ourselves to be the solution to that problem. | ||
| Only to further enslave. | ||
| By agitating with socialists and communists, but that will all be just a goof, and the end result... | ||
| The end result will be killing off all the Goyam. | ||
| In Alex Jones' conception, killing off all the people who aren't globalists. | ||
| Why would you say this in a meeting? | ||
| Why would you write this down? | ||
| That's the other problem. | ||
| This is a big issue. | ||
| If that is your plan, don't... | ||
| Record it. | ||
| Seems unwise. | ||
| Meet in a little meeting room. | ||
| Rent some space. | ||
| It's not like everybody had iPhones back then that would have recorded this. | ||
| Someone would have had to be writing so fast. | ||
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| It's patently absurd, the entire idea of it. | ||
| But in there, you have two very big pieces of Alex Jones' beliefs about the globalists in that they are going to introduce socialism as a way to trick downtrodden people who really just need prosperity. | ||
| That's really all they need. | ||
| They're going to trick them into this control state and that the globalists want to kill you and your family. | ||
| He says it all the time, and it's just here. | ||
| We'll trick them, and then our end goal is to kill off all of them. | ||
| The other big piece of his thing is that he always talks about how the globalists want to make you weak, because if you're weak, you can't fight back against them. | ||
| So in Alex Jones' conception... | ||
| Because, I guess, there weren't tons of vaccines and shit back in 1900. | ||
| Certainly not the prevalence that we have now. | ||
| They don't use the specifics of vaccines and putting stuff in the food. | ||
| But that is why Alex Jones is willing to believe those narratives, even though the facts don't back them up. | ||
| Because... | ||
| It reinforces this sort of an idea that comes from the protocols of the Elders of Zion. | ||
| This idea that the globalists want to keep us weak in order to not be able to fight back, and so they soft-kill us with vaccines, by putting stuff in the water, by trying to kill masculinity. | ||
| It's all, in some ways, rooted here. | ||
| Now, if I'm the Elders of Zion, all right, writing back then... | ||
| I would throw in, give everybody smallpox. | ||
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| No vaccines. | ||
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Why even bother? | |
| This is a terrible master plan. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| This is a bad way to go. | ||
| Weaponize smallpox. | ||
| We fucking did it. | ||
| We already fucking did it! | ||
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It's true. | |
| Way before them! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We could have destroyed all this shit! | ||
| But there might be too much backlash to the Zionists, if that's the case, because they can't control the smallpox once it gets going. | ||
| See, now here's a very essential... | ||
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Well, they gotta invent vaccines! | |
| Here's an essential piece of this master plan, and that is that when it goes down, people who mastermind it, it will be safe. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| This hatred will be further magnified by the effects of an economic crisis, which will stop dealing on the exchanges and bring industry to a standstill. | ||
| We shall create by all the secret subterranean methods open to us, and with the aid of gold, which is all in our hands, a universal economic crisis whereby we shall throw upon the streets whole mobs of workers simultaneously in all the countries of Europe. | ||
| These mobs will rush delightedly to shed the blood of those whom, in the simplicity of their ignorance, they have envied from their cradles, and whose property they will then be able to loot. | ||
| Ours they will not touch, because the moment of attack will be known to us and we shall take measures to protect our own. | ||
| All right, now we have a new guest on. | ||
| He's going to talk to us about the coming financial collapse, which I've told you about for months now. | ||
| It's coming in late September, and we got him coming on. | ||
| Listen, guys, buy gold. | ||
| You're going to need gold. | ||
| It's gonna go up to $50,000 an hour. | ||
| Do you see so much of him in that? | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| The globalists have orchestrated this global economic collapse, the gold importance. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And then at the end there, talking about how the Zionists are going to be safe because they know when it's gonna happen because they're doing it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Alex Jones talks all the time about how the globalists are fleeing. | ||
| He talks about how they're heading to armored redoubts. | ||
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Of course. | |
| All the fucking time. | ||
| Because they know when the attack is gonna happen. | ||
| Because they did it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Let me ask you a question. | ||
| I love questions. | ||
| In the Pez, do they ever stop to sell any kind of boner pills? | ||
| Ever. | ||
| At any point in time, are they like, okay, now we know our master plan. | ||
| We know what's going to happen. | ||
| We know how it's going to go down. | ||
| But listen, we have an Easter sale. | ||
| We're extending Easter. | ||
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Wait, the Jews are going to... | |
| Yeah, exactly! | ||
| That's why I loved it so much. | ||
| How did you miss it the first time? | ||
| God damn it, I thought that was great. | ||
| Well, because Alex Jones, with his specials, it's less important that they're happening and more important that he's extending. | ||
| They are always extending. | ||
| That's always what happens. | ||
| So, there we go. | ||
| I mean, I'm not nearly done. | ||
| I was going to say, there's no way you're done. | ||
| So, ever since that time, we have been leading the peoples from one disenchantment to another. | ||
| So that in the end, they should turn also from us in favor of the king despot of the blood of Zion, whom we are preparing for the world. | ||
| So that's basically, again, just the same narrative that we're making people miserable in order that eventually they'll fall right into our trap. | ||
| The art of directing masses and individuals by means of cleverly manipulated theory and verbiage, by regulations of life in common, and all sorts of other quirks, in all which the goyim understand nothing, belongs likewise to the specialists of our administrative brain. | ||
| Reared on analysis, observation, and decades of fine calculation, in this species of skill we have no rivals, any more than we have in the drawing up of plans of political actions and solidarity. | ||
| That one's less important. | ||
| That is such... | ||
| It drives me insane. | ||
| It drives me insane. | ||
| Because that passage could have been written about the people who are distributing this thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's exactly what they're saying. | ||
| That's exactly what they're doing. | ||
| That might as well have been that intelligence offer being like, check this shit out. | ||
| I'm just going to tell them what we're doing to them. | ||
| I don't even care. | ||
| They're going to believe it. | ||
| They're going to believe the whole thing. | ||
| I don't even care. | ||
| It is pretty wild. | ||
| When you step back to realize just how much of this is completely ripped off, and the fact that it is an entire fraud, and you start to think about and realize the reasons for the fraud, it does become very bizarre. | ||
| Just thinking about how much of... | ||
| You're saying that these people are using propaganda, but you're doing that within... | ||
| A propaganda text. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just very... | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's layers upon layers. | ||
| Now, perhaps, let's take it one... | ||
| Let's inception this. | ||
| We're gonna go one more level deep. | ||
| I'm listening. | ||
| Alrighty. | ||
| Maybe this actually is propaganda by the elders of Zion. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That they gave to the intelligence communities. | ||
| To then give to people about the Elders of Zion. | ||
| Then we would think that the Elders of Zion aren't even fucking real. | ||
| But the plan is there. | ||
| They're still about to implement it. | ||
| We're just the idiots here. | ||
| We're the ones who are getting fooled. | ||
| Make no mistake. | ||
| This argument is made on Stormfront regularly. | ||
| Oh, goddammit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Here's another passage. | ||
| The intensification of armaments, armored redoubts, and the increase of police forces are all essential for the completion of our aforementioned plans. | ||
| What we have to get at is that there should be in all of the states, all the world, besides ourselves, only the masses of the proletariat, a few millionaires devoted to our interests, police and soldiers. | ||
| George Soros. | ||
| Soldiers. | ||
| Do they have a few millionaires? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| They didn't have billionaires back then. | ||
| Certainly didn't. | ||
| So they got George Soros. | ||
| Right, millionaires. | ||
| Is George Soros... | ||
| Alive at this time. | ||
| He gets name checked. | ||
| This is actually George Soros giving a speech to the other elders of Zion, right? | ||
| Might as well be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He has age regression technology, as we know. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He gets in those med bags. | ||
| They get back in there, yeah! | ||
| Then he time travels back to the future. | ||
| So, in there, I mean, Alex Jones is super afraid of the idea that the globalists are going to bring out a police state. | ||
| And, I mean, it's right here. | ||
| It's in their goals. | ||
| My goal is they just want to create a state with downtrodden people, police, and a few millionaires who get to live freely. | ||
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That sounds like it's already happened. | |
| Sounds like we're too late on that one. | ||
| Throughout all Europe, and by means of relations with Europe, and other continents also, we must create ferments, discords, and hostility. | ||
| So yeah, it's just, they're gonna fuck around with everybody. | ||
| Yep, they're gonna fuck everybody up. | ||
| All around the world. | ||
| They also invented Daft Punk. | ||
| Alex Jones has a lot of ideas about education and the fact that you're being fooled all the time. | ||
| Here's a passage. | ||
| We have fooled, bemused, and corrupted the youth of the Goyim by rearing them in principles and theories which are known to us to be false, although it is in that that they have been inculcated. | ||
| So, the Zionists, or the globalists, have a bunch of things that are complete lies that They, you know, trick you into believing as you're growing up. | ||
| Climate change. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Gay rights. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| These sorts of things. | ||
| Do the Zionists call their children purple penguins? | ||
| Is that a thing? | ||
| They must. | ||
| They have to. | ||
| They don't like gender. | ||
| It's all these things that they know to be bullshit, but they're fucking with your head by getting you to think that they're real. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which, I mean, that's very Alex. | ||
| This is all fucking with my head. | ||
| Why is that? | ||
| I just don't like the... | ||
| I feel like I'm being attacked by two people now. | ||
| I feel like I'm being attacked by Alex Jones, believing this basic shit, and now you reading this shit to me. | ||
| I've got two people that I'm fighting in my brain right now. | ||
| Well, I think I hate this. | ||
| I hate it too. | ||
| But I think it's important to look at it, because it is a very important piece. | ||
| of his worldview. | ||
| And without it, I don't think we can have a fully robust picture of what it is that's behind Alex Jones and what bullshit he spews. | ||
| And so when you have these things from the Protocols of the Elders of Zion, it's not that he's necessarily preaching them whole cloth, but they are entirely in line with his beliefs about the globalists. | ||
| And when you look at the stories that he believes, and the things that he pitches, the things that are parts of his bullshit narrative that don't stand up to the scrutiny of facts, a lot of it can be traced back to this. | ||
| Because, like you said, with the Purple Penguin stuff, if you look at the facts of that, it's a benign situation. | ||
| It's nothing. | ||
| It's not something that even a conservative person necessarily should be screaming about, maybe making fun of. | ||
| I could see Rush making fun of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| But the idea that you'd be actually angry about it and think it means something, you have to believe that these globalists are doing it specifically to fuck with people's minds. | ||
| And that has its roots right here. | ||
| Now, you don't think it could have been... | ||
| You don't think he... | ||
| Okay. | ||
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So... | |
| God damn it. | ||
| I don't know if it's like if two comics come up with the same premise. | ||
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Parallel thinking? | |
| Yeah, parallel thinking. | ||
| Do you think there's a chance of that? | ||
| Because this sounds really damning. | ||
| I don't think it's parallel thinking because there's too much overlap. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, I don't want to call Alex a hack. | ||
| Because that's a title that sticks. | ||
| Anytime he tries with comedy, he's definitely hacky. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Go back to our third episode? | ||
| Second? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| Yeah, he does try comedy quite a bit, but I meant the stand-up comedy. | ||
| Ooh, yeah, I remember that. | ||
| That's episode two, guys. | ||
| Go back in the archives. | ||
| I am not willing to believe parallel thinking, but what I am willing to believe is parallel sourcing. | ||
| Like I said, with books that he buys into and narratives that he believes, those are also heavily based on protocols. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like how, even if you haven't seen Casablanca, you know the base. | ||
| It's so part of our cultural communication, or so part of our zeitgeist that you still kind of know what happens in Casablanca. | ||
| Or, like a comedy example, if you live in Chicago and you've seen a bunch of Chicago comedians and you've never seen Kyle Kinane, you've seen Kyle Kinane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| You haven't seen Kyle Kinane. | ||
| People's influences show through their product. | ||
| And people who are deeply inspired by Kyle Kinane often have a little bit of Kinane in them. | ||
| And you can see that. | ||
| Or Mitch Hedberg. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Totally. | ||
| And there's a lot of people who have a lot of the protocols in them. | ||
| Like Mitch Hedberg. | ||
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Right. | |
| I appreciate you trying to bring funny to this. | ||
| I'm doing my best. | ||
| This structure is difficult without clips. | ||
| But be that as it may. | ||
| They're talking about how they want to take over the world here in this next passage. | ||
| Everybody vote without distinction of classes and qualifications. | ||
| Democracy. | ||
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In order to establish an absolute majority, which cannot be got from the educated property classes. | |
| In this way, by inculcating in a sense of self-importance, we shall destroy among the goyim the importance of the family and its educational value. | ||
| Alex always talks about how the globalists want to destroy your family. | ||
| They hate the family. | ||
| They hate the family. | ||
| They hate it. | ||
| They hate it. | ||
| They want to get rid of it. | ||
| Everybody should be raised by everybody? | ||
| Yeah, communities. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And what they're saying there is in order to, yeah, you hit the nail on the head and make a democracy, and then everybody is voting equally, everybody is equivalent, you create communities, and you destroy people's... | ||
| And you can do this in a democracy because most people are asleep. | ||
| Most people are just going to go along in that majority. | ||
| The minority that are awake, like Ford and Hitler, they're the ones who are going to fight against it. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Oh boy. | ||
| So, when we introduced... | ||
| I mean, fuck! | ||
| Hitler was democratically elected. | ||
| True. | ||
| So, eh. | ||
| Hitler is also an elder of Zion. | ||
| Could be. | ||
| Alex might believe that. | ||
| He said he was set up. | ||
| He has said a lot of nice things about Hitler. | ||
| But he's a bad guy. | ||
| He's a bad guy. | ||
| He was set up, but he was bad. | ||
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Don't get it wrong. | |
| Listen, Hitler had some good ideas. | ||
| So, when we introduced into the state organism the poison of liberalism, its whole political complexion underwent a change. | ||
| States have been seized with a mortal illness, blood poisoning. | ||
| All that remains is to await the end of their death agony. | ||
| Liberalism produced constitutional states which took the place of what was the only safeguard of the goyim, namely despotism. | ||
| But this has to... | ||
| How is it that these people... | ||
| The only place this kind of shit can come from is an authoritarian dictatorship. | ||
| The only people who would absolutely advocate for despotism are despots. | ||
| That's contained within the pretense of the fact that the Zionists want to create a global despotism. | ||
| They want to have a despotic rule all over the entire world. | ||
| Yeah, but that doesn't make any sense. | ||
| Of course it doesn't. | ||
| Why wouldn't you just consolidate the already despotism that you have? | ||
| Especially if we're talking about Prussian or that kind of situation. | ||
| Those people aren't... | ||
| The people who would give this information out, who would fight against liberalism, are the people already in power. | ||
| True. | ||
| So why would you think that people out of power would plot this liberalism in order to then take... | ||
| Their own despotism. | ||
| That's not how you fight against a despot. | ||
| Because that's what they're ostensibly doing. | ||
| They're saying that we're not the despots. | ||
| No, but they're also sort of making the argument that despotism is in the past. | ||
| And that was the only thing that was keeping the goyim, the sheep, safe. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Was that there was a despot in charge and they couldn't take them out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But now, since liberalism has been introduced, they used liberalism to take down those despots, and now they can come in and come over the top. | ||
| Because they couldn't do that before when the despot was there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So they're... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's actually almost making the argument that a dictatorship is the only way to stop. | ||
| Yeah, like I said. | ||
| Which makes sense with Alex Jones' interest in Trump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The only way... | ||
| Well, I mean, fuck with Bannon's interest in tearing everything down. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And only then can something be rebuilt. | ||
| Like, that's the same shit right there. | ||
| In our last episode, we did reveal that Alex Jones is okay with some tyranny. | ||
| So... | ||
| Great, great, great, great. | ||
| You know how tyranny always gives up? | ||
| Like, tyranny is well known for only being some. | ||
| Tyranny never goes too far. | ||
| You know how tyranny is. | ||
| It's never in absolutes. | ||
| I'm cool with some tyranny is like saying I'm cool with all tyranny. | ||
| That's just how that works. | ||
| So you might be thinking, how much control do these here Zionists have over the political process? | ||
| God damn it if it's not 100%. | ||
| In the near future, we shall establish the responsibility of presidents. | ||
| We shall arrange elections in favor of such presidents as have in their past some dark undiscovered stain, some Panama... | ||
| No shit! | ||
| Some Panama or other... | ||
| Pedophile network! | ||
| Then they will be trustworthy agents for the accomplishment of our plans out of the fear of revelations. | ||
| And from the natural desire of everyone who has attained power, namely the retention of privileges, advantage, and honor connected with the office of the president. | ||
| Now, Alex Jones believes legitimately that globalism is kept in place by blackmail. | ||
| Mostly pedophile blackmail. | ||
| But also some other blackmail. | ||
| Sure, there's other stuff. | ||
| Drug running, what have you. | ||
| But yeah, a lot of child murder and pedophiles. | ||
| That's the narrative he spins these days. | ||
| Like Benghazi. | ||
| The globalists... | ||
| Just, again, change the names. | ||
| The globalists arrange elections in favor of such presidents as having their past some dark, undiscovered stain. | ||
| So stupid. | ||
| So stupid. | ||
| So much of it is here. | ||
| So much of it is in this stupid book. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| How is it that a hundred-year-old pamphlet... | ||
| It's so taken over. | ||
| Because there was a thousand years of hating Jews before that. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| There's so much already. | ||
| It's a coiled spring already. | ||
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| And at that point, this is just like, you want to hate them, and now you've been given fraudulent proof that you should hate them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's essentially what's going on. | ||
| Guys, stop hating the Jews. | ||
| And that's why it has lingered for a hundred and something years until Alex Jones gets on the air and then really makes mainstream. | ||
| Really makes it mainstream. | ||
| Because there were other people who were talking about the ideas of the globalists and things like that, but when you look at the history of it back in the, I don't know, if you go back to the 50s and 60s, the talks of this sort were about Jew bankers and stuff like that. | ||
| It wasn't as couched. | ||
| In euphemism about the globalists. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| And stuff like that. | ||
| Well, like C-Lab 2021 has the five Jew bankers as, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's a joke for a reason. | ||
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| But unfortunately, it ain't a joke. | ||
| It ain't a joke to these people. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So, here we go. | ||
| Here's another passage. | ||
| By such measure, we shall obtain the power of destroying, little by little, step by step, all that at the outset, when we enter our rights, we are compelled to introduce into the constitutions of states to prepare for the transition to an imperceptible abolition of every kind of constitution. | ||
| And then the time has come to turn every form of government into our despotism. | ||
| So again, it's just reinforcing the idea that, you know, it is heading to a one-world despotic government. | ||
| You're shaking your head. | ||
| I'm just thinking that... | ||
| Isn't it baffling? | ||
| It is baffling. | ||
| Like, how do you read this and not think, oh, the best plan is to just let these guys pretend and have fun? | ||
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What do you mean? | |
| But these people aren't real. | ||
| I know, but that's what I'm saying. | ||
| Even if these people are real and you're reading Pez, my thought is, like, that's such a terrible plan. | ||
| Try it. | ||
| Go to town. | ||
| It's going to fail just on its own inertia. | ||
| If you have this many moving parts, it's never going to work. | ||
| They have all the gold. | ||
| They've infiltrated the media. | ||
| They've eroded the very idea of education so all of the people are dumb. | ||
| You have a dumbed-down population that's shackled intentionally by the bonds of work-a-day slavery. | ||
| But that's just Scientology. | ||
| Somewhat. | ||
| That's exactly what Scientology is. | ||
| Well, I mean, in a lot of ways, the idea of this... | ||
| Oh, man, I bet L. Ron Hubbard has read The Protocols of the Elders of Zion for sure. | ||
| There's a decent chance. | ||
| He's still alive. | ||
| I mean, the idea of the globalists in a lot of this stuff is essentially... | ||
| What it does become is not... | ||
| Like, a philosophy. | ||
| It is a religion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To a lot of people, like, that's why Alex Jones fakes crying on air and has his weird version of Christianity that's not based on the Bible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, it is a religion to him. | ||
| It's a cult. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| This is not, like, it's not real world. | ||
| It's very, very dangerous. | ||
| Do you think, so, so this kind of makes me feel like the way that we should be handling this bullshit, the way that we should be handling all of this bullshit. | ||
| Is the same way that we handle cults? | ||
| Is the same? | ||
| Well, I hope, on some level, ambivalent Alex Jones listeners might be able to come and find our show and be like, oh, alright. | ||
| I hope. | ||
| I don't think that's necessarily ever going to be the case. | ||
| I think we should just start by finding regular listeners. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| We have plenty. | ||
| Thank you for listening. | ||
| Yes, thank you very much. | ||
| What I'm saying is, I think that the only way really to do battle with cults, necessarily, Is deprogramming. | ||
| And one of the ways you can deprogram is by making fun of the ideas of the cult. | ||
| You can research and bring to light why the cult is full of shit. | ||
| Or you can just hope for people like you or I escaping. | ||
| That's really what it... | ||
| Well, yeah, exactly. | ||
| And we've... | ||
| I have escaped a cult. | ||
| Literally. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I escaped a weird Christianity, but it wasn't... | ||
| It wasn't the same as what you had to fucking deal with. | ||
| But be that it's amazing, you got to a certain age and you didn't fall in with the cult anymore. | ||
| No. | ||
| So, I mean, I don't want you to... | ||
| I don't want to be like, hey, Jordan, why don't you tell the story? | ||
| Well, guys, look up the No Name Fellowship. | ||
| You can find them online. | ||
| They were on a watch list. | ||
| And because of what they believed in, a kid died. | ||
| But you didn't have some podcast about how stupid the cult was. | ||
| No, I did not. | ||
| I did not. | ||
| I don't know what I'm getting at here. | ||
| I would have loved a podcast about how stupid the cult was. | ||
| Well, that's what we hope to offer to the Info Warriors. | ||
| Anyway, back to the protocols, Jordan. | ||
| So this is some more liberal... | ||
| That was a nice little commercial break right there. | ||
| This is some nice liberal bashing. | ||
| The part played by the liberals, utopian dreamers, will be finally played out when our government is acknowledged. | ||
| Till such time they will continue to do us good service. | ||
| Therefore we shall continue to direct their minds to all sorts of vain conceptions of fantastic theories, new and apparently progressive. | ||
| For have we not with complete success turned the brainless heads of the goyim with progress? | ||
| Till there is not among the goyim one mind able to perceive that under this word lies a departure from truth in all cases, where it is not a question of material inventions, like the fallacious idea, serves to obscure truth, so that none may know it except us, the chosen of God, its guardians. | ||
| Oh, that's magical technology. | ||
| That's MedBeds right there. | ||
| Possibly, but also the idea contained therein is these vain conceptions and fantastic theories, new and apparently progressive. | ||
| That's just Alex Jones talking about, hey, they're trying to confuse you with trans stuff. | ||
| They're just trying to change the language. | ||
| They're trying to get you to accept weird stuff. | ||
| That's just right here. | ||
| That's what liberal progressiveness is. | ||
| It's just a plot on the part of the globalists or Zionists, depending on which book you want to read. | ||
| People just really hate people's lives getting better. | ||
| That's what you read in all of this stuff, is people get really angry whenever... | ||
| Like, Alex Jones' idea of prosperity is bad for everyone. | ||
| Hating the Jews is bad for everyone. | ||
| We don't have healthcare because of the protocols of the elders of Zion. | ||
| Somewhat. | ||
| It's bad for everyone. | ||
| Stop hating people. | ||
| Hating black people has done the same thing. | ||
| If we didn't have so much hate for these fucking people, and I'm not, I don't know how that sentence scans. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| If we didn't have all of this hate. | ||
| You wouldn't have an insurance company, we'd have single payer. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, stop hating people. | ||
| Well, especially when you distrust... | ||
| Like, the idea of distrusting progress is a real dangerous kernel to have in your worldview. | ||
| Because what's the alternative? | ||
| There's regress, or there's stagnation. | ||
| Conservatism. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The only two things you really can do is move backwards or stay the same as a civilization. | ||
| And you can't stay the same. | ||
| No. | ||
| Life isn't static. | ||
| That's not a thing. | ||
| No. | ||
| You're always going to err on the side of backwardsness. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or moving backwards as opposed to moving forwards. | ||
| Coal jobs aren't coming back. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And banning trans people from the military is not a good idea. | ||
| It's very dumb. | ||
| Probably illegal. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Like most things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, like, all of this stuff is regressive. | ||
| It's backwards facing. | ||
| And... | ||
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And if you're gonna talk about who... | |
| Like, everybody who hates progressiveness, everybody who wants that conservative ideology going on, they never stop to think, okay, so if we're going back, who benefited the most from that? | ||
| From the actual going back or back then? | ||
| From back then. | ||
| Progressives? | ||
| Back then? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| The forward motion through time, yes. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no. | ||
| I mean, if we, like... | ||
| I misunderstand the question. | ||
| So if you're saying, oh, we should go back to... | ||
| I know the answer is going to be white dudes, right? | ||
| It's always white dudes. | ||
| But it's even more important to mention... | ||
| It's fucking rich people. | ||
| It's oligarchs. | ||
| Straight, rich, white, Christian dudes. | ||
| It's despots. | ||
| It's all of those people who are the ones who always want to take you back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because if you keep moving forward, they realize they are not important, and they're not in power. | ||
| And that's why this is really effective authoritarian propaganda disguised as being something against the Jews. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So here's a really interesting passage I found. | ||
| Until recent times, the Russian autocracy, the one and only serious foe we had in the world. | ||
| Why does Alex Jones always say that the Russians are one of the only people who have kicked out the oligarchs, who have kicked out the globalists? | ||
| It's in here. | ||
| It's in here that the only threat that the Zionists felt they had was this strong Russian autocracy. | ||
| That's pretty intense. | ||
| Now granted, this is probably referring to the anti-Semitism of the czars and shit like that, but it still tracks in terms of mentality that the Russians are the strong ones and they've resisted this globalist slash Zionist influence. | ||
| It's a mess. | ||
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Man. | |
| Long pause. | ||
| I thought you were going to say something. | ||
| No, I'm just fucking... | ||
| This makes me so hopeless, Dan. | ||
| You have made me so hopeless. | ||
| You have took away any and all hope I ever once had. | ||
| That's not my goal. | ||
| What has changed? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| What has changed from this fucking text? | ||
| We're still dealing with this. | ||
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Clothes. | |
| Clothes have changed. | ||
| Clothes have gotten a lot better. | ||
| External presentations of things have changed. | ||
| Nobody has to wear hats anymore. | ||
| The fact that it is... | ||
| It's unacceptable for Alex Jones to reveal that so much of this is based on the protocols of the elders of Zion. | ||
| The fact that we have a society where you have to hide bigotry, as opposed to... | ||
| We used to. | ||
| We used to have a society where you had to hide bigotry. | ||
| I still think... | ||
| In about a year or two, you won't have to worry about it anymore. | ||
| We're in that transitional regress phase. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| We're in that moving backwards phase, but I think right now we're still not quite out of the woods in terms of, you know, like... | ||
| I mean, that's bullshit, because some people have Nazi tattoos, and it doesn't seem to hurt them. | ||
| I mean, I would assume some job interviews don't go great with a Nazi tattoo. | ||
| But I mean, case in point, there was that stripper lady who married Jesse James with a swastika tattooed on her body. | ||
| So I mean, she became a celebrity for a little while, and all it did was people mocked her and she made a lot of money. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I dread where the world is going, obviously, but you shouldn't lose hope. | ||
| There's hope in truth. | ||
| And lots of drugs. | ||
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I don't think anybody has ever said there's hope in truth. | |
| I don't think anybody's ever said there's hope in truth. | ||
| There's a self-satisfied death in truth. | ||
| Because once it all goes down, we will die, but at some point, right before we die, we'll be like... | ||
| We get to say, I told you so! | ||
| Well, not that we told you so, just like, eh, alright. | ||
| We said what we needed to say. | ||
| So here's another passage. | ||
| In order to effect the destruction of all collective forces except ours, we shall emasculate the first stage of collectivism. | ||
| Oh, get rid of men. | ||
| Get rid of men. | ||
| No, this is about education. | ||
| We have to emasculate the first stage of collectivism, the universities, by re-educating them in a new direction. | ||
| Their officials and professors will be prepared for their business by detailed secret programs of action from which they will not with one immunity diverge, not by one iota. | ||
| They will be appointed with special precaution and will be so placed as to be wholly dependent on the government. | ||
| Alex Jones believes that colleges are campuses full of liberal brainwashing and that professors, through the foundations, are just being given marching orders and they spout globalist propaganda. | ||
| He did not go to college. | ||
| Noted college goer. | ||
| I went to college and my dad has been a professor my entire life. | ||
| I've known many professors. | ||
| And I can say, at least as far as the religious studies departments of multiple major United States universities, they're not getting marching orders from anybody. | ||
| No. | ||
| And they're very rarely agreeing on anything. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| I don't think I've ever... | ||
| I was a lit major. | ||
| I don't think I've ever even had two professors teaching the same book agree on what the book says. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, ever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the robustness of university life. | ||
| I think, to me, what this is saying is... | ||
| It's the same thing that Alex Jones talks about. | ||
| Don't send your kids to college because of the diversity of thought there. | ||
| And that diversity of thought, whenever they bring it back, makes you think they've been brainwashed when it's really just... | ||
| Oh, I've been exposed to real things. | ||
| Right, but the diversity of thought leads you to a more liberal, more progressive mindset, generally. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Which is why it feels like you're being brainwashed. | ||
| Or why it feels to them like you've been brainwashed. | ||
| Externally, it appears that way, because you've shed your small-town bigotry and found the real world. | ||
| But, I mean, it's right out of here. | ||
| It's right out of this stupid book. | ||
| So Alex Jones talks about how the globalists want to destroy our memories. | ||
| And he's special because he has a memory. | ||
| And beyond that, on our last episode even, we played a clip where he talked about how the only thing he was ever taught growing up is how bad the West is. | ||
| Now listen to this. | ||
| We shall erase from the memory of men all facts of previous centuries which are undesirable to us. | ||
| and leave only those which depict all the errors of the government of the Goyim. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That's dead on, man. | ||
| That's exactly what he... | ||
| That's dead on. | ||
| And I don't believe that in the real world, Alex Jones was literally taught only that fucking the West is bad. | ||
| Because... | ||
| I don't believe that for a second. | ||
| That's not a thing that would be taught. | ||
| Especially not in fucking Dallas in the 60s. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They would teach you that America is the greatest. | ||
| Now, I imagine that there were subversive voices throughout the 60s and 70s, and he was seeing some America bashing going on in the counterculture in the left, certainly. | ||
| That was... | ||
| Pervasive back then? | ||
| But that's not what he claims. | ||
| He claims that all he was taught growing up is how bad the West is. | ||
| And I don't believe that's the truth. | ||
| I believe it's a perception that he is inflicted upon himself either directly from the protocols or from other sources that has dispensed to him secondhand. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, suck it. | ||
| Anyway, I think we only have a couple more of these left here. | ||
| And keep in mind, I didn't want to just sit here and read at you for like three hours. | ||
| So there's even more examples of just... | ||
| So it started out as a pamphlet. | ||
| How long is it now? | ||
| Is it still like 15 pages or something? | ||
| No, it's pretty long. | ||
| There's 24 protocols. | ||
| This speaker gets off base a little bit. | ||
| There are some derivations. | ||
| He gets on Mars base a little bit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There are some what I would call flights of fancy. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Throughout. | ||
| And so, I don't know. | ||
| I would say maybe... | ||
| It's hard to tell because I have a Kindle and it doesn't keep track of page numbers necessarily. | ||
|
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Ooh. | |
| So it might be like... | ||
| A hundred pages. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Seventy to a hundred pages. | ||
| So it's just been like, it started out as this little pamphlet. | ||
| But not a little pamphlet necessarily. | ||
| And it's just been added to and added to and added to. | ||
| Pamphlets back then could be big. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| They didn't have TV back then. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So there's a decent chance that when we say pamphlet, you think of it as like two pages. | ||
| I think of it as like, yeah. | ||
| But it could be like just a street book. | ||
| It's handed out on loose paper and shit. | ||
| Street book. | ||
| Street book! | ||
| I got street smarts, and that's anti-Semitism. | ||
| Here's the next one. | ||
| It's a little bit about taxes. | ||
| Our rule, in which the king will enjoy the legal fiction that everything in his state belongs to him, which may easily be translated into fact, will be enabled to resort to the lawful confiscation of all sums of every kind for the regulation of their circulation in the state. | ||
| From this follows that taxation will best be covered by a progressive tax on property. | ||
|
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Guns. | |
| That's not about guns. | ||
| No, they're talking about regulating and controlling things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's guns all the way. | ||
| No. | ||
| He can't bitch too much about... | ||
| Well, I guess he can bitch a lot about... | ||
| Alex Jones has guests on constantly and talks about how much he doesn't believe in progressive taxes. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| He doesn't even believe in any federal taxes at all. | ||
| There should be a flat tax or whatever. | ||
| Well, I don't know if... | ||
| We should tithe. | ||
| Isn't that Ted Cruz's dumbass idea? | ||
| We should all tithe? | ||
| Alex Jones thinks that in terms of healthcare, that we should go back to when churches did all of it. | ||
| Like, ugh, that was no good. | ||
| I think we should go back to when barbers did all of it. | ||
| That was a good time. | ||
| I was hoping that if I got another broken arm, they would just take it. | ||
| Well, the regulation stuff that you're talking about does exist in pieces that I didn't pull out, necessarily. | ||
| There's one portion where they say that it's best to disarm a population as opposed to lead them to war. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| There are those sorts of fields within it. | ||
| But there isn't as much talk about guns, necessarily, in this. | ||
| Well, they weren't. | ||
| Because it was 1900. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| The technology was not what we have now. | ||
| There weren't any assault rifles. | ||
| And the obsession about it wasn't the same that we have now. | ||
| I believe that this passage is more like actually just about taxes. | ||
| Just about real taxes. | ||
| And, you know, that does mirror to some extent Alex Jones' belief on taxes. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Economic crises have been produced by us for the Goyam by no other means than the... | ||
| I believe that there's a misprint here. | ||
| Let me try that again. | ||
| Let me try that again. | ||
| which were constantly obliged to apply for those same stagnant capitals for loans. | ||
| So they create economic crises so they can take money out of the systems and take it for themselves. | ||
| And in process, they give massive loans to countries when they make them fight with each other in order to put them in situations where they can't possibly ever pay back those loans. | ||
| And they will be essentially enslaved to the Zionists. | ||
| That's exactly what Alex Jones says about the globalists. | ||
| Frankly, that's just the college loan system. | ||
| Well, but not with creating a war. | ||
| Apparently, one thing about the Elders of Zion is that they damn well know how to put together a regressive college payment system. | ||
| Yeah, that does seem like a good gift of theirs. | ||
| The other thing, too, is they talk about how if anybody goes against us, what we'll do is get their neighbor to fight with them. | ||
| You know, like, stir up trouble in the neighboring country, and if they refuse to fight against each other, we'll start a world war. | ||
| Now, look at what Alex Jones says about Syria, says about Ukraine. | ||
| He talks about how Ukraine was just globalist meddling in Ukraine that was an attack on Russia. | ||
| That's exactly what the plan of the Zionists is within the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. | ||
| In Alex's conception, Russia is against the globalists. | ||
| And so in order for them to fight against Russia, they get Ukraine to do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But Russia invaded the... | ||
| Goddammit, I hate Alex. | ||
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Right. | |
| I hate Alex so much. | ||
| The things in his worldview and his cosmology that aren't backed by facts have to be backed by something. | ||
| And it goes back to this. | ||
| Whether it's directly from this or second-hand from this, this is the root of it. | ||
| Anti-Semitic fraud is the root of so much... | ||
| Of the reason Alex Jones lies. | ||
| So anyway, we have one more clip. | ||
| Could you read it in Alex Jones' voice? | ||
| Thanks to such methods allowed by the carelessness of the Goy states, their treasuries are empty. | ||
| The period of loan supervenes, and that has swallowed up remainders and brought all the Goy states to bankruptcy. | ||
| Yeah, you can't really do Alex Jones' voice. | ||
| Well, not just that, but it's like... | ||
| That man could never say any of those words in that sentence. | ||
| He doesn't... | ||
| Do you want to use the word superveen? | ||
| He doesn't understand those words. | ||
| No, but... | ||
| Now, he... | ||
| Like... | ||
| Can he possibly... | ||
| I mean, I guess if he just absorbed this as a worldview. | ||
| Because it's not like he's going back and checking what are the elders of Zion doing? | ||
| And how does it relate to this? | ||
| It has to be that from such a young age, he was, and frankly, because I love the word and we've already heard it used more times in this episode than I think I've heard it in my life, he has been inculcated. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's a good word. | ||
| It's a great one. | ||
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With this Pez. | |
| Yeah, that's a great word for it. | ||
| You build it up, and it's what you filter your experiences through. | ||
| You filter... | ||
| Other people through, you just create the building blocks of your psychology through your life, and it becomes the lens. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And yeah, I'm willing to accept that. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| I'm willing to accept that that's possible, that of course he's not going back and reading over this and being like, oh, there's a good bit for tomorrow. | ||
| I mean, with his brain damage, I doubt he can read anymore. | ||
| Right, and we've gone over, he talks about how he was reading adult books when he was six, or around that age, maybe five. | ||
| Reading college-level books. | ||
| So if he was reading... | ||
| And we've also heard him say over and over again that his dad was a conspiracy theorist growing up. | ||
| Oh, yeah, that's true. | ||
| So there's a real decent chance... | ||
| Oh, his dad is probably the Pez dispenser! | ||
| Yes. | ||
| There's a real decent chance that his dad in the house had books that Alex Jones read that were based on... | ||
| Protocols of the Elders of Zion, or just the actual book. | ||
| It's entirely possible Alex read those at a young age, wasn't able to understand them, and incorporated them so deeply into his schema, if I'm going to use that word, that now it just has become what all this other stuff is built upon without him realizing it. | ||
| And I think at this point I'm ready to... | ||
| Fully lay out my point, and that is that there is no difference in Alex Jones' globalists and the Zionists in this fraudulent text, except for vague specifics. | ||
| Vaccines and what have you. | ||
| Are all dentists anti-Semites? | ||
| I think that's my larger question. | ||
| Are you an anti-dentite? | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Alright, there it is. | ||
| Alright, there it is. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| I'm going to give you a point for that. | ||
| I'm going to give you a point for that. | ||
| You get one. | ||
| So what do you think, Jordan? | ||
| Where's your head at besides being overwhelmed by dread? | ||
| I don't... | ||
| My feeling is that this is secondhand. | ||
| If not, like, this is dispensed as a worldview through the ages. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And never, like, I would, I doubt... | ||
| I disagree. | ||
| I'm sure he's read it at some point. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| He talked about how one of the first books he bought was Mein Kampf, because he was super interested in it, and some lady who was at the store was like, why are you buying this? | ||
| I want to read people's ideas, even if I don't agree with them. | ||
| So the fact that he has told that story on the air, I'm not saying that he is into Hitler or anything like that, but what I am saying... | ||
| I think he's super into Hitler. | ||
| Well, I mean, I'm comfortable with you saying that only under the context of, like, As a historical figure. | ||
| I'm not saying that he's an out-and-out Nazi or anything like that. | ||
| Like Sandra Bullock. | ||
|
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Calm down. | |
| I can't stop doing that. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| It's going to get us in trouble one of these days. | ||
|
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I know. | |
| I love that running bit, though. | ||
| So the fact that he's willing to go on air and really express that one of the things early on in his life was reading things that maybe... | ||
| weren't true or were opposed to his position to the extent of Mein Kampf. | ||
| I think that there's literally no way he never read this. | ||
| It's a very notorious book. | ||
| I did not know. | ||
| I have never heard of it before when you started talking about it. | ||
| It's very big in conspiracy circles. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I may have heard about it, but I never paid any attention to it. | ||
| There are hundreds of YouTube videos about how real it is. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| There's such a dark underbelly of fucking horrible racism. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's a lot of the conspiracy community, quite frankly. | ||
| Not all of them. | ||
| I'm not painting everyone with that brush. | ||
| But there is an undercurrent. | ||
| Yeah, don't tell me that my girl Carrie is... | ||
| Cassidy. | ||
| Carrie Cassidy is a racist. | ||
| I don't know, and I'm not willing to make that claim. | ||
| But I do think she believes that Beatles fought in Vietnam. | ||
| Beetle Bailey. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Predictive programming. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| That's what it is. | ||
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Holy shit. | |
| There it is. | ||
| We figured it out. | ||
| How deep does it go? | ||
| If the writer of Beatle Bailey is in on it, everybody's in on it, Dan. | ||
| You mean Mort Walker? | ||
| How did you pull that? | ||
| He went to the University of Missouri. | ||
| Ah, you son of a bitch. | ||
| Personal connection. | ||
| There's a Beatle Bailey statue on campus. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Yeah, it is pretty crazy. | ||
| But be that as it may, I don't know if you guys out there listening, I don't know where your heads are at, but... | ||
| If there's one thing that you should take away from this. | ||
| It is that you need to go to the University of Missouri and see this Beetle Bailey statue. | ||
| I need to know. | ||
| Now I worry that it's been taken down. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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Our next episode is going to be you apologizing. | |
| Well, it wasn't a statue as much as it was like a seated statue. | ||
| There was like a table, and it was like Beetle Bailey was sitting there having a beer. | ||
| Like Ronald McDonald at McDonald's? | ||
| Yeah, but sitting at a table. | ||
| You could sit down next to him and take a sip. | ||
| Take a picture. | ||
| Take a picture of you with a statue of Peter Bailey. | ||
| We don't have a lot to be proud of at the University of Missouri. | ||
| We had that one president who went there, who dropped the nukes. | ||
| We had him. | ||
| Truman? | ||
| Yeah, we had Truman. | ||
| Our mascot is Truman the Tiger. | ||
| That is a great way to memorialize the president. | ||
| And then we got Kenneth Lay went there from Enron. | ||
| So that's great. | ||
| We'll take Beetle fucking Bailey any day of the week. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So this brings us to the end of my exploration of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. | ||
| I hope you have enjoyed or at least been scared by this. | ||
| Hopefully you're not hopeless. | ||
| And I hope that you understand my point. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I'm never able to tell if I've made my point. | ||
| But I hope that I have. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex Jones is repurposing anti-Semitism. | ||
| In order to build up his case of the globalists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's what's behind... | ||
| I mean, even the nouveau alt-light people, like even Jack Posobiec and... | ||
| Uh-uh, uh-uh. | ||
| Alt-right. | ||
| Alt-right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No alt-light. | ||
| None of that. | ||
| I refuse. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Refuse! | ||
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Fine. | |
| Even the people like Mike Cernovich and Jake Posobiec, they still rely on citing the globalists and stuff like that, which means spiritually they are linked into the same mythology that Alex Jones is espousing and has been espousing for years. | ||
| And it is warmed up, repackaged anti-Semitic propaganda from 1903 Russia. | ||
| They put it in a microwave and fucked us all with it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Like a good fleshlight. | ||
| Is that how that works? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Do you put it in a microwave? | ||
| I did, back when I had one. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I didn't. | ||
| So anyway, if you'd like to, you can go check out our website. | ||
| I don't have anything else to say. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I know. | ||
| You did it. | ||
| You did it. | ||
| You accomplished what you set out to do. | ||
| I'm not sure I did. | ||
| And now you're kind of deflated. | ||
| You came. | ||
| You came. | ||
| I said my piece. | ||
| I hope that... | ||
| I think you've laid out your case pretty clearly. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| I didn't like the format of this. | ||
| We won't do any more reading episodes. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think so. | ||
| But it was a necessary little detour. | ||
| Anyway, we'll be back. | ||
| If you listened all the way to the end of this... | ||
| Just so you know, you didn't need to listen to this one. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| I disagree. | ||
| No, I'm just... | ||
| This is essential. | ||
| I'm sorry, Dan. | ||
| I just wanted to fuck with you. | ||
| We'll be back soon with more... | ||
| More Alex Jones. | ||
| More Alex and more clips. | ||
| More of the investigation. | ||
| More of the regular episodes. | ||
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| We're going to make some merch soon. | ||
| Maybe? | ||
|
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Sure. | |
| We've been tossing ideas around. | ||
| And there's also bonus episodes of Conspiracy Podcast Me and Marty DeRosa do that you can access if you donate to the show. | ||
| And if you'd like to submit ideas for merch, email us at knowledgefight at gmail.com. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| We're not gonna... | ||
| Nah, don't do that. | ||
| Fine, do that. | ||
| Yeah, swords. | ||
| I want a policy wonk branded sword. | ||
| Are they a foam sword? | ||
| Yeah, that'd be fun. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We should LARP as policy walks. | ||
| I honestly think that's going to be cost prohibitive. | ||
| We physically get together. | ||
| It's like Civil War reenactment, except it's you dress up like either me or Dan. | ||
| No. | ||
| And then somebody else dresses up like Alex Jones. | ||
| This is bad. | ||
| And you just fight with foam swords. | ||
| This is a bad idea. | ||
| That's a great idea. | ||
| We can't put the money up for these foam swords ahead of time. | ||
| You've got to buy your own foam sword. | ||
| Oh, for real? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| They're expensive. | ||
| Go on Cafe Press. | ||
| We don't have like an Etsy? | ||
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No. | |
| So anyway, we'll do something. | ||
| But until then, we'll catch you next time. | ||
| But there's one thing that weighs heavy on my heart. | ||
| There's this asshole. | ||
| Who? | ||
| There's this asshole. | ||
| He's got a big old gray beard. | ||
| I hope you don't say he's a Jew, because that would undercut your entire episode right here. | ||
| But I'll tell you what, he does believe... | ||
| That college campuses are brainwashing factories. | ||
| Oh, that's a very Protocol of the Elders of Zion kind of guy. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| He is. | ||
| He's beholden to a lot of the similar narratives that Alex Jones pitches about the globalists. | ||
| What's his name? | ||
| His name is John Rapoport, and he can go fuck himself. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |
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