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July 17, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
02:52:58
#64: Aug 27-Sep 1, 2015

Today, Dan tells Jordan about the breakthrough 9th installment into what happened in 2015 to convince Alex Jones to join up with the Trump campaign. Dan is pretty sure he's make a massive break in the case, but you can decide that for yourself. Topics covered include: Where did Alex's chimera narrative come from? Did Alex steal "Hillary For Prison" from a bumper sticker he saw? Does Alex Jones have a conceal-carry permit? What race of women is Alex most attracted to?

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
27:58
d
dan friesen
01:28:49
j
jordan holmes
40:41
s
steve quayle
05:07
Appearances
a
aldous huxley
02:13
l
larry nichols
02:03
Clips
p
peter schiff
00:27
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We are a couple dudes who like to sit around.
jordan holmes
That started very cheerleader.
We are a couple dudes.
dan friesen
Give me a novelty beverage!
Novelty beverage!
jordan holmes
We are drinking Nestle Milo today.
dan friesen
We are.
jordan holmes
In honor of the 157 books Milo Yiannopoulos sold.
dan friesen
Indeed.
jordan holmes
And hopefully he disappears forever.
dan friesen
That book is dangerous.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
To publishing houses.
jordan holmes
It was funded entirely by the Mercer family, we have discovered.
dan friesen
As is everything he does and many other weirdo ding-dongs on the right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is a chocolate-based energy drink.
With a generic basketball player.
dan friesen
It's not chocolate-based.
It's chocolate-flavored, which means there is no chocolate in here.
jordan holmes
The first two ingredients are like cocoa processed with alkali.
unidentified
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
How is it?
dan friesen
That's pretty good.
jordan holmes
Let's taste it.
dan friesen
This is best served chilled.
I agree with that recommendation.
It's not bad.
jordan holmes
Alright, that's pretty good.
You're right.
dan friesen
It's kind of just like chocolate milk.
jordan holmes
It is exactly like chocolate milk.
dan friesen
Something that is also like chocolate milk in as much as I like it a lot.
jordan holmes
Okay, there we go.
dan friesen
Is our new donator.
jordan holmes
Transition.
dan friesen
What's going on out there, Jeff Wood?
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
That is not a first and last name as far as I can tell.
It is just a first name, Jeff Wood.
jordan holmes
We appreciate it.
Okay.
dan friesen
Thanks for joining up with the show, my man.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much, Jeff Wood.
dan friesen
What do you know?
We got a second policy wonk today, too.
unidentified
What the shit?
dan friesen
Give a nice shout-out to Clay.
Thank you for donating.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you for joining up with the team.
jordan holmes
Thank you very much.
And if you are Clay Aiken, please reach out.
dan friesen
We would never know.
He's invisible.
If you would like to become a policy wonk, you may do so by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking the support the show button.
And throwing us a couple of ducats.
jordan holmes
And if you just have a tip on where Clay Aiken may or may not be, send us an email, knowledgefightatgmail.com.
dan friesen
We should just get a dedicated Clay Aiken Tips email address.
jordan holmes
Clay Aiken Tips hotline?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
What do you know?
jordan holmes
I just feel like that's the most random person that we could be obsessed with on this show.
alex jones
I don't know.
dan friesen
I feel like there's some other American Idol people we could choose.
Maybe a Justin Guarini.
Maybe a Sanjaya.
jordan holmes
Whatever happened to...
We know what happened to Kelly.
Whatever happened from Justin to Kelly?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I did see that movie three times in theaters, though.
jordan holmes
I don't understand you.
dan friesen
Let's not deal with it.
jordan holmes
I don't understand what you're doing at all.
dan friesen
I worked at a movie theater at the time, but still unexcusable behavior.
Jordan?
Yes!
jordan holmes
And I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
The premise of the show, I know a lot about him.
You don't know anything.
We talk about it.
Hey, how's it going?
jordan holmes
Our intros and outros are pretty much a mess.
dan friesen
We're courting the new listeners by not explaining what the hell is going on at all up top.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This is a podcast about Alex Jones.
That's all you really need to know.
I have an out-of-context drop from Alex Jones to start the show off, and there's a guest appearance by one of our favorite, least favorite people.
In this Out of Context drop, the man, the myth, the liar, Larry Nichols.
unidentified
Ooh!
alex jones
Globals know how to kill him with a microwave gun across the street.
They'll cook him in his bedroom if they want.
larry nichols
If they wanted him shut up, I assure you, not much on this earth I know, but he would be shut up.
So if somebody is not being shut up, then you and I can only, only realize that they want it out.
dan friesen
Oops.
They accidentally said that the government wants whatever they're saying to be out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
That makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
I love it.
jordan holmes
Either you kill Donald Trump Jr. with a microwave gun, which you could just go to his house or across the street.
Sure.
Or...
They have released that information in order to taunt us, letting us know that the rule of law no longer applies to anybody above us in stature.
It's fairly reasonable.
And that there was no possibility of coming together.
And so what needs to happen is...
And this is where Dan cuts me off.
dan friesen
I start playing the playoff music.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So they were trying to talk about Louis Farrakhan and be like...
It's obvious that the globalists want him trying to start a race war, because otherwise they would have fried him with a microwave gun.
jordan holmes
That sounds about right.
dan friesen
Not realizing that the logic flips around perfectly on them.
jordan holmes
Louis Farrakhan?
dan friesen
Yeah.
He wants to start a race war.
Well, who doesn't?
Anyway, today, Jordan, we're going to be going over the ninth part of my investigation.
This thing is sprawling.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
Into what happened in 2015 to get Alex Jones to join up with Team Trump.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So far, I recommend if you're listening to this and you haven't listened to the other eight parts.
jordan holmes
You got some homework to do, son.
dan friesen
I recommend you spend the next 24 hours.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's about right.
dan friesen
You got a full day ahead of you of figuring out what we've discovered.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're harder to binge than just about anything else.
dan friesen
There's no doubt about that.
To give you just a brief recap of what we've found so far.
Is that initially Alex Jones ignored the idea that Trump was running for president, then started talking wild shit about him, talking about how he knows that Donald Trump is the front man for a consortium on the East Coast.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He explicitly lays out mob connections.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Talks about how he's in bed with the Clintons.
Can't trust him.
jordan holmes
Probably laundering money.
dan friesen
His track record is terrible.
He's hooked up with dicey people.
And then out of nowhere, he's like, I'm gonna stop talking shit on Trump.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The whole time, he's enjoyed his rhetoric, and he thinks the things that Trump is saying about how Mexican immigrants shouldn't be coming into the country and what have you, he likes that, but he doesn't trust it.
jordan holmes
He loves Trump's bigotry, hates Hillary Clinton so much he's willing to be like, you know what?
Let's give this Trump guy a shot.
dan friesen
And from, you know what, June?
To now we're into August.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Nothing has really evolved.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
His position has only become more, hey, keep saying things I like.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's basically it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because Alex is crazy and so is Donald Trump.
jordan holmes
Very ambivalent to him becoming the nominee.
dan friesen
Very much so.
jordan holmes
But very happy with him pushing that narrative.
dan friesen
Yes.
Because he wants Rand Paul.
jordan holmes
He's really hoping that Rand Paul will ramp up his bigotry.
dan friesen
Exactly.
That seems to be his firm position is, I love Rand Paul, I want him to talk like Donald Trump.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But in the meantime, he's tried to get Jesse Ventura to run for president.
jordan holmes
And Ventura has shut him down on many an occasion.
dan friesen
Or at least been like, not yet.
Then he's also expressed support for Ted Cruz.
In this episode, he's going to express support for two other Republicans, one of whom is not running for president.
He's all over the place.
Trump is the last thing on his mind in terms of...
jordan holmes
You know, it is kind of good when you think about...
Who else could have been the GOP president?
Like, imagine Ted Cruz with this same authoritarian regime just adding in a lot of Christian bullshit on top of it.
Like, I would rather have a kleptocracy than a theocracy, right?
dan friesen
Somewhat, yeah.
And Ted Cruz would be able to get things done better.
Like, he understands the system more.
He'd have these departments staffed.
You know, it would be...
I think the machine would work faster with Ted Cruz, especially with no resistance from the GOP at all.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So at least Trump is a bumbling fuck and everyone hates him.
jordan holmes
Right, and I've watched Escape from L.A. I know how the theocracy plays out in America.
dan friesen
Yikes.
jordan holmes
We lose all of California.
dan friesen
I don't want to talk about Escape from L.A. If you want to talk about Escape from New York, we can talk about it, but I don't want to talk about L.A. Anyway.
Today's investigation will cover the period from August 27th, where we left off on August 26th last time, to September 1st.
And I don't want to put too fine a point on this.
I think I've cracked the case.
I think at the end of this episode, I will reveal a piece of information that I was unaware of, and you were unaware of, and I've not heard anybody bring up...
And I think it explains just about everything.
jordan holmes
Okay.
That is a big claim.
dan friesen
I'm being a little bit too over the top.
jordan holmes
You've said that before.
On, like, installment number six or so, you were like, I think I've got this one.
dan friesen
I know.
And that's the ever-evolving nature of this investigation.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But this one, I think it gives motive.
It gives opportunity.
I think there's a lot.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
You've built a court case.
dan friesen
And let me tell you.
It's not as conspiratorial as, let's say, some ideas of Putin funneling money in or something like that.
It doesn't have as many...
According to Occam's razor, it's much simpler.
Of course.
I'm ready to be wrong.
The next stage of the investigation might show that I'm totally wrong, but this is something pretty big.
jordan holmes
All right, let's do it.
dan friesen
But be that as it may, we've got to start on August 27th.
So, Alex Jones is in a weird place because that Virginia shooting had just happened.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And in the meantime, he's also being attacked by a sheriff in Spokane.
And this becomes, like, a really weird place where he's mad at cops but also loves cops.
And he's in a very strange dancing space for a lot of this time period.
In this first clip, he's talking about how...
The sheriff in Spokane had come out and said that a lot of armored vehicles that they have and heavy weaponry is to fight against constitutionalists and white militias, which is what they're more scared of than, let's say, Muslim terrorism.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't think Muslim terrorism is going to Spokane, Washington.
dan friesen
It doesn't seem like that's a hard target.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But Alex is pissed off about it, and this is what he has to say.
alex jones
So this is wrong.
Drudge and others picked it up.
World and Daily picked it up.
The story went viral.
And he first came out and said, we're liars.
It's not for us.
Then we said, no, you're a liar.
So he said, Alex Jones and Infowars is threatened to kill me.
When it was comments on the site, which anybody could do.
I mean, I could go on the Inlander and put comments and then say they said it.
I mean, it's just very bizarre.
And he keeps warning of something's about to happen.
I really see this as a prime false flag zone.
That's what my spider sense, common sense tells me.
Now, by exposing it, it may not happen, but I think the sheriff's a really, really bad person from everything he's done.
He speaks with a fork in tongue, and I think he's playing people.
And I may just go to a county nearby and not even go into his jurisdiction and call for peace when I go out there and see if he'll come to the county line because I don't even know if it's safe to even get within his jurisdiction with the history of his deputies, the things he's been involved in, bizarre deaths.
This is a pretty bad guy.
The Southern Property Law Center might have something on him.
I'm not sure.
larry nichols
I'm speculating there.
dan friesen
Yeah, keep that in mind, his feelings on this Spokane sheriff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, all the mysterious deaths.
Like, he's talking about Arpaio.
dan friesen
And another guy who's going to come up a little bit later that Alex has very different feelings about.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, it's Sheriff Clark.
Right.
jordan holmes
Jesus, the guy from Wisconsin who should be fucking put in jail?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex loves him.
jordan holmes
Why are these people in jail forever?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
They should be in jail forever.
dan friesen
It's wild.
jordan holmes
Like, Arpaio's skeleton should still be in jail after he dies, like hanging in a medieval movie.
unidentified
Damn bones!
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
And like in the background of one of those old Mac videos.
I'm thinking of Prince of Persia, the original.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
You'd have all those skeletons hanging.
jordan holmes
I was thinking of King's Quest, but yeah.
We're about the same.
dan friesen
Generationally?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the thing that I think is fucking hilarious in that clip is that for days, Alex had been like, oh, you son of a bitch.
I'm coming.
I'm coming to Spokane and this guy better talk to me.
And now he's like, I might not even go into his jurisdiction.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a weird one.
dan friesen
It's so backpedaling.
jordan holmes
Like, what is this?
The 47th parallel?
Like, is there...
dan friesen
The DMZ?
Yeah.
unidentified
He's fucking talked himself into being super afraid of this guy and there is no...
dan friesen
Uh-uh.
So, I love that, because Alex Jones is such a fucking coward when it really comes down to it.
jordan holmes
I wonder, is there anything more impotent now than death threats?
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know.
Online?
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can't not get death threats.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, it's still scary, but yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, if I say I didn't like the first episode of Leftovers, it's like, there's gonna be a bunch of...
Yeah, there's death threats.
dan friesen
Yeah, it doesn't mean that it's okay, but yeah, it is weak shit.
jordan holmes
Listen up.
If you are making a death threat online...
Fucking at least go for it.
unidentified
No, hold on.
jordan holmes
Give it a shot.
dan friesen
I don't agree with that at all.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
I don't agree with this.
How do you figure?
dan friesen
I don't like that your problem with death threats online is that they're idle.
I don't like that at all.
jordan holmes
Ah, okay, fine.
dan friesen
I would say, I mean, like, when I used to be a college columnist at the University of Missouri, I wrote intentionally inflammatory things in the student newspaper, and I would get death threats a bit.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And my universal response was, fuck you.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Fuck you, you punk.
How dare you?
jordan holmes
Come kill me.
dan friesen
How dare you?
And nothing ever happened.
jordan holmes
Right.
If enough policy wonks get us a larger platform, I can't imagine how many death threats.
We're going to get so many.
Oh, we're going to get death threats all day.
dan friesen
The second Alex Jones finds out about us, I think he might have already, but I'm not saying that in some sort of like...
conceded, narcissistic way.
I just think he's petty enough to have a Google alert on his name.
Okay.
unidentified
And I would not be surprised if some intern or whatever is aware of...
dan friesen
What we're doing.
But the second that, like, his audience really becomes aware, we're going to be globalists.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
They're going to say we're connected to Soros.
jordan holmes
Oh, and he still hasn't paid us.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, let's move along, because we've got a lot of fucking glibs to go through, and you have a hard out.
So, like I said, there's not been a ton of evolution about Alex Jones' position on Trump, but I did notice this clip, and I think it's indicating a softening.
in his opinion towards him about a very specific topic.
unidentified
Now, you know, I'm a very much Second Amendment person, Chris, and I know the arguments both ways very well, but I'm very much into the Second Amendment.
You need protection.
Now, you also have entertainment and you have, you know, all sorts of activities and all of that, but taking that out of the picture, you know, most, I mean, guns are used for recreational purposes.
Jogging.
Like people play golf and like people play other things.
People play golf?
But beyond that, in terms of safety, you know, if you're sitting in a cabin someplace and you're not armed and somebody walks in with a gun, I'll tell you what, I'd rather be in that cabin with a gun than not with a gun.
That I can tell you right now.
jordan holmes
Go to that cabin.
alex jones
I tell you, I mean, I'm liking Donald Trump more and more.
It doesn't mean I trust him.
But I tell you, I'm liking him a lot more.
dan friesen
He likes him a lot more because he started talking about guns.
jordan holmes
Oh man, he loves guns.
dan friesen
Loves them.
But at the same time, even in that clip, he's saying, I still don't trust him.
jordan holmes
I still don't trust him.
dan friesen
So there's really no actual evolution of his position.
It's fucking fascinating.
jordan holmes
It's just that Trump is saying everything he loves.
dan friesen
But why is Alex Jones for once in his goddamn life restrained?
jordan holmes
That is a really good question.
dan friesen
He jumps off every dumbass cliff that, like, oh, some caller gives him information about a conspiracy, and he's like, this is true, I have it from high-level sources.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Why in this instance, that ends up being the worst decision he's ever made, why is he like, I really gotta mull this one over for a couple months?
I think I actually, I think I do know the answer to that question.
jordan holmes
Does he know something?
Like, does he know, does Alex actually know something?
Like, has he actually been told something that makes him think...
dan friesen
I think the mob ties part might be a piece of that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But I think what's actually...
jordan holmes
And Alex has different mob ties?
It's a Hatfield and McCoy situation?
dan friesen
I think there may be a negotiation that's been going on behind the scenes.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
I think this publicly being like, I like him more, but I don't trust him, is his way of publicly being like...
Sending a message that you need to bump your offer up.
jordan holmes
Right, okay.
dan friesen
I think that might be the case.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
I don't want to give away too much, but I think that might be the case.
jordan holmes
Alright, here we go.
dan friesen
So, also, I think I realized why Alex was being a coward about the sheriff.
And it's because he hadn't taken his super mail yet.
He hadn't taken his super male vitality for the day, and so he was a little cuck.
He was a little estrogen-filled cuck.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And so Alex Jones has to take his medications on air, and it's super fucked up.
jordan holmes
Jesus, that's so disgusting.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's worse than you think.
alex jones
But first, I was about to do this during the break here on the TV slash radio show, and I thought, why not just do it on air?
Because I hadn't taken my survival shield nascent iodine yet, and I like to put it in a glass of water.
I take about half a dropper once a day.
That's a little more than the dose that's recommended.
Consult your physicians out there and see how it works for you.
I took a much smaller dose than just three years ago when I started this.
I take a larger dose because I forget some days.
I probably do it three or four days a week.
In fact, I'm getting better about taking it every day, so I should probably reduce my dose.
Hindsight's 20-20.
I just greedily put too much in there.
And then I take some Super Metal Vitality that's even stronger under the tongue.
jordan holmes
What is fucking happening?
alex jones
But I just put it in water because it really has like a cola-y taste.
When you mix it with the iodine, I take three dropperfuls.
You know what?
I just take four.
unidentified
I don't know.
alex jones
Whatever.
I'm being bad here.
In fact, somebody ran off of my Secret 12 that was in here.
My Secret 12 was in here.
Oh, it's underneath.
I can't reach it.
Will somebody give me my methylcobalamin blaze?
unidentified
Sorry.
alex jones
I didn't really prepare this.
I was loading up this glass during the break, and I thought, you know what?
This is what I do at least once a day, and when I religiously do it, things get a lot better around here.
Nico, I really appreciate your help.
I can't really...
Someone ran off with it.
It's probably me.
I probably wandered off with it.
I probably wandered off with it.
I don't need it.
It's okay.
I'll take it later.
And that really is better under the tongue, not in water.
But this is how I take it.
Right into the old stomach.
Right down the old gullet.
With me droogies.
unidentified
No!
alex jones
And so there it is.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no!
You need to understand the context of that.
alex jones
It tastes delicious.
You know, when I first started drinking this stuff, it didn't taste good, but now my body loves it.
I think the first time you drink whiskey, you don't like it, but down the road, you know, it tastes like mama's milk, but even though you don't remember what mama's milk tastes like, you imagine it probably tasted like the Jameson's you're drinking.
jordan holmes
I bet it did.
alex jones
Instead of drinking Jameson's, I drank this.
So, again, it's available at Infowarslife.com.
dan friesen
Yeah, he needs to be careful about his Clockwork Orange references.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
I don't think he understands why that's a problem.
dan friesen
That is on air!
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
This is the voice of a generation.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
The man who's standing up to the globalists spends three minutes on air mixing a cocktail of his own weirdo pills.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Wow!
jordan holmes
Also, he dropped something, and he's like, hey, could somebody get that for me?
unidentified
I can't find it.
dan friesen
He couldn't find his secret 12, the B12.
jordan holmes
What the fuck is that?
dan friesen
It's B12, but it's methylcobalamin as opposed to cyanidobalamin or whatever.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
He argues that vitamin B12 can be derived from cyanide or something else, and theirs is from something else.
Sure.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I don't care.
Anyway.
I just fucking love that sales shit.
I love it.
I love it when he really goes for it.
And he's like, I'm gonna sell product, but I refuse to be interesting about it.
So I'm just going to fucking overdose on super male vitality.
Anyway, one of the big missions that Alex is on during this period is he needs...
For the shooter in Virginia, the guy who shot the two news people live on Facebook and Twitter, he needs for that guy to be on meds.
He needs for him to be on psychiatric medication because he's said that.
He's already said it.
jordan holmes
Oh!
Oh, he's already said that he was.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Not that he needs him to be.
dan friesen
No, in order for his narrative to work about, like, shooters being controlled and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
It's mental health.
What we should be caring about is mental health in this country.
That's the real issue.
It's not guns.
It's not guns.
It's all about mental health.
Now, admittedly, Reagan defunded all of our mental health programs and destroyed the welfare state on his own, basically.
And he was a Republican president, but hey.
It's mental health.
dan friesen
And admittedly, Alex's position is at least a third of what mental health practitioners advocate is brain control.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
He has a problem there, and he is really struggling because it's not coming out that he was on psychiatric meds.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that might have actually contributed to why.
Because he's nuts.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And wasn't medicated.
Right.
So Alex is having a real difficult time with that.
He's like, we're gonna find out he was on pills.
And I don't believe that's come out to this day.
But he wants to talk a little bit about how maybe that shooting was fake.
And he uses a very weird...
jordan holmes
Maybe the shooting was fake?
dan friesen
Maybe it was.
jordan holmes
It does not get less fake than that.
dan friesen
Well, he has Joe Biggs and David Knight.
Go to Virginia.
jordan holmes
Oh, so he's got the dream team.
dan friesen
Yeah, and they're just standing on the highway.
Apparently across the street from the center where the shooting happened or something like that.
It's tough.
It's a bad shot.
And they're just standing there.
They have no news.
They have nothing.
And Alex is talking to them about maybe it's fake.
alex jones
The first person shooter shooting the reporter and the cameraman.
There's no blood.
He does shoot her three times, it looks like, and she runs in high heels.
And a lot of folks said they don't believe that.
They think it's fake.
Well, we know some stuff's been staged.
We know much of Sandy Hook isn't as they say.
We know the Aurora shooting is staged.
But I've shot wild boar.
I've shot elk.
I've shot whitetail.
I've shot mule.
And sometimes you shoot one with a 7mm mag and they fall right there.
Sometimes you shoot a little whitetail, a 30-odd six, and they run 500 yards, even though their heart is blown in half.
Joe, it's in the news they covered.
You've had quite a few kills in the Army yourself and been blown up a few times yourself.
You've had experience with this.
It looks like a first-person shoot-em-up.
I don't think the White House is beyond doing this, but the narrative would be he'd be Tea Party or something, and they'd have been on the ground ready.
Like we saw, Bloomberg sent an email the night before saying, get ready, big thing's about to happen.
That was in mainstream news.
dan friesen
No, it wasn't.
alex jones
They had the porta-potties being delivered.
They were already with PR at Sandy Hook.
The school had been closed before.
You know, the evidence goes on and on that something's not right.
We don't know exactly what, but even Rob News' uncle, it's a retired FBI agent, has gone there and says he's never seen anything like it and looks like a cover-up.
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
So, yeah, people are on the case.
But watching that video that will roll while you're talking...
jordan holmes
He's not going to play that video again.
alex jones
We're not going to put it back on YouTube because we don't want to get censored again, but my own show, I can roll it.
dan friesen
He does.
He plays it again.
jordan holmes
I can't fucking fathom that shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Thankfully, Joe Biggs' response is, no, I'm not ready to say that this looks fake.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
At least Joe Biggs' response is good.
But the true comedy, I mean, I...
I hesitate even to call it comedy because it's, you know, it's such dark context.
But Alex Jones at this point has played that video like four or five times on his show within two days.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
dan friesen
Later on in this episode, there's a story about someone stabbing chickens and there's video of it and he refuses to play that.
So he's willing to play all these propaganda Center for Medical Progress videos.
He's willing to repeatedly play this shooting.
Won't play chickens being stabbed.
jordan holmes
I think he wants to kill somebody.
dan friesen
I think so, too.
jordan holmes
I think Alex is living vicariously through this video as like a, I have always wanted to do this kind of thing.
dan friesen
I think that might be a part of it, or he sees it as helping his goals, which is causing strife.
jordan holmes
And fear.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Especially fear.
dan friesen
Fear and strife.
jordan holmes
Look, if these people had guns, this never would have happened.
They would have been able to protect themselves.
dan friesen
That argument is made.
jordan holmes
Of course it is.
Of fucking course it is.
dan friesen
Which is a bad argument.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Yeah, if this person who's doing their job doing a remote for local news just had a gun, they could have not been surprised?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I think that...
I just wish they would understand that I don't care what solves the gun violence issue.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
As long as it solves it.
Like, if that means everybody gets a gun...
Fine!
Give everybody a gun!
Now, I would prefer if it was socialized gunfare, where the government just gives everybody a gun.
dan friesen
You got your Obama gun?
jordan holmes
Exactly!
Yeah, yeah, that'd be good stuff.
But, I mean, it's just, how can you not see how stupid an argument that is?
She's on...
Air.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
She's giving a remote.
If you think for one second that this lady is going to be doing her work and then sees this guy and pulls out a gun on air and now there's a gun battle.
dan friesen
How much more wild of footage would that be, though?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That would get ratings.
jordan holmes
That I would play.
That I would play on my show.
dan friesen
I'm not sure I would.
jordan holmes
No.
Good God, no.
dan friesen
You know what I would play, though?
I would play this next clip.
Of Alex Jones talking about seeing some homeless people doing some fishing.
alex jones
And all I'm saying is, suddenly, it isn't just immigration or the best people coming here, it's space bar, folks.
dan friesen
Mos Eisley.
alex jones
I mean, I've been down on the hike and bike trail and seen homeless Guatemalans catching fish with a piece of monofilament line wrapped around a Coke can that they use as the...
And I'm sure they're really sweet, great, nice people.
The question is...
What is the government doing here and everywhere else just opening everything up?
And by the way, those immigrants don't even know how to go get the assistance.
They haven't made it to the Democratic Party facility yet and haven't been scooped up to actually be taken off the street.
They're living in the green belt.
It was grandma.
Granted, he must have died.
It was mama.
It was daddy and three kids.
With a fire going over across the creek.
Catching fish and eating them.
I mean, we're talking grizzly atoms.
Okay, fine.
These are countries that live like grizzly atoms.
We're in the 21st century.
Why are they bringing grizzly atoms in, en masse?
What's the reason?
Because when it all unravels and melts down into depression, it is going to be a you-know-what storm.
And they're mixing radical jihadists into this, and they're going to use the attacks to take everybody's liberties.
And there won't be any logic of our government opened the borders.
Our government gave them the weapons.
Because the public doesn't have logic anymore.
dan friesen
The public doesn't have logic anymore.
jordan holmes
The plan for them is we're going to bring in Guatemalan Grizzly Adams.
unidentified
They're going to team up with the Muslim extremists.
dan friesen
What don't you get?
jordan holmes
I don't get that at all.
dan friesen
Because you went to fucking public school and you don't have logic.
jordan holmes
I don't have logic anymore.
I actually think that there are people that I...
Look, they're industrious people.
They figured out how to fish.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They're surviving on their own.
Isn't that what he loves?
That kind of life?
dan friesen
I'm legit a little jealous of their lifestyle.
jordan holmes
A little bit.
dan friesen
Living out in the woods, fishing.
I don't like to eat fish, though.
I'd have to find, like, a...
I don't know, a mule to kill.
unidentified
Why did he throw...
jordan holmes
Anyway.
dan friesen
Why is he shooting mules?
I'd like to point out, too, that if you live in Chicago, you can go down Lakeshore Drive and you will see white and African-American homeless people fishing in those lakes that are by the side of the road.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
It's not some sort of weird immigrant thing.
A lot of homeless people find food how they can.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's actually very smart.
dan friesen
And also kind of a damning indictment of how we treat our people.
But be that as it may, Alex, I'm glad you took the wrong lesson from it.
Speaking of things you took the wrong lesson from, I teased on the last episode that I figured out where Alex Jones' chimera narrative comes from.
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
And now it is time to lay that out in the open.
Alex Jones reveals in this next clip...
Where he got hip to all that from.
And it's not a good source.
alex jones
We are joined by Steve Quayle of stevequayle.com.
The first guy 20 years ago who was writing best-selling books about them taking human baby fetus brains and putting them in dogs, cats, cockroaches, mice.
dan friesen
Wow.
Alright.
jordan holmes
Were they best-sellers?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Did he put out the name of the books?
dan friesen
Nope.
But you can go to SteveQuayle.com.
I've referenced him in the past.
Steve Quayle is a lunatic.
jordan holmes
SteveQuayle.com.
dan friesen
Steve Quayle is, bar none, one of the craziest people I've ever encountered in our investigations.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And I've looked into Larry Nichols.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This guy is...
Looney Tunes.
Like, you see my book of notes here?
I like to take pretty detailed notes on the episodes.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So I know what happens in each episode.
jordan holmes
Because you're good at your job and prepared.
dan friesen
The note that I have about what's about to happen, the next clips we're going to listen to, is Steve Quayle is nuts.
That's all I've written down.
jordan holmes
Is it spelled like Dan Quayle?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he doesn't get into this, but you know what's available on Steve Quayle's website?
jordan holmes
Oh, I hope it's his book.
dan friesen
Buying gold.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
Steve Quayle has his own gold sale operation.
jordan holmes
Oh, right.
dan friesen
Seems that all these dudes have that sort of link in common.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they've got that, yeah.
dan friesen
Cause panic, sell gold.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
That's what you do.
Steve Quayle at least is kind of interesting in the sense that his insanity is not...
I mean, he has...
Racially problematic beliefs.
He also believes that...
jordan holmes
At this point, we can't encounter anybody who doesn't.
dan friesen
No.
He believes that Nazis survived World War II and have a base under the ice at the Polar Caps.
Alright, I'm intrigued.
He's out there in terms of his theories.
When we talked about him last on the show...
jordan holmes
No time travel, right?
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
I think he probably does believe in that.
unidentified
Okay, good.
dan friesen
The last time we talked about him, it was because Alex Jones was talking about how he's basically a prophet, and all of his predictions have come true, which is not true at all.
That's absolutely absurd.
He's also written a ton of books about how the Giants are real.
Not like the sports team, but like, biblical Giants are real, and that the government is trying to cover up them, their history.
jordan holmes
With a tarp?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Destroying the bones of giants and hiding them in back rooms of museums and stuff like that.
And he's like, they were a perverse race.
It's madness.
jordan holmes
I like that the government is trying to hide them, but they're still like, well, we can't put them in a government facility.
We gotta put them in a museum.
Like, there's Indiana Jones.
dan friesen
That's a government building, the museums.
I don't know.
Anyway, here is...
I have three clips of...
Steve Quayle saying some wild shit on Alex's show.
And if you listen to these clips and consider that this is the guy who hipped Alex Jones to baby fetuses or being put in cockroaches.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Calls a lot of it into question.
jordan holmes
This is our Elijah.
This is our prophet right here.
unidentified
Indeed.
alex jones
I go, what is this?
It's like a movie.
It's like we got possessed or something.
And then those of us that see it and don't like it...
They go, oh, you're a terrorist.
You're going to kill people.
We've got to arrest you.
And then we get official re-education camp manual.
Steve Quill of stevequill.com.
I apologize for ranting for five minutes.
Go ahead to the break.
Six minutes away.
What do you say to that?
Who are the players?
What is the endgame?
You were saying it's spiritual.
steve quayle
Right.
It's spiritual because, you know, I've written about Stargates.
And by the way, I just want to tell people this.
It's important to what we're talking about, Alex.
It is like a voted.
For a subscription, you can download it.
Pay to download it to the DVD, True Legends.
And why this is critical, okay, is it's really critical for people to understand that.
And one of the revelations in that, and it's shown amazing 90 minutes, we actually believe now that through some pretty amazing genius-level mathematicians and Tim Albarino being down with the film crew and, you know, the South American stuff, we actually believe we have found the fallen angels' linguistics.
And I'll let people go on it and see it.
But what's going to be important, let me tell you why this is important, because the spiritual nature of the battle, when the Satan has come out, you know, during World War II, you and I did a show, I don't know, 10 years ago about this, when I wrote a book called Breathe No Evil.
But Dr. Ishii, I-S-H-I, and Unit 731 were tried for war crimes for the live vivisections on human beings.
By the way, that's why the Chinese, one of the main reasons the Chinese hate the Japanese so much, the atrocities under Japan were just horrific.
So China has a historic, I would say, precedent.
But saying all that, that is a war crime.
unidentified
We do not criminalize the death.
steve quayle
Now, when I'm hearing that they have live babies, that they're giving over to the experimenters, and when I hear that the American citizens are eating, All of the, if you will, baby parts in all the lists of the food companies and everything, you can understand something.
They want us changed at a genetic level.
They want us so isolated and so non-human that all of the normal God-given qualities of compassion, of love, of understanding, of forgiveness, they don't want that, okay?
They want a totalitarian hellhole.
Back to the United States, what was the name of the survey that you and I broke on air?
I sent you an email.
We talked about it.
Remember the one that showed the population of America taken down to 80, 90 million?
alex jones
Absolutely.
That was put out by the government.
And expanding on this, whether we believe in all this or not, the elites believe in the angels, the stargates, the occult.
jordan holmes
They believe they're getting their power from it.
alex jones
And regardless, with the chimeras, with the cross-species creations, with baby brains put in rats.
With octopuses crossed with humans, all this is being done in labs, admitted now.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
alex jones
These are new creatures.
They're creating aliens right here on this planet.
steve quayle
Yes, they are.
And, you see, the reason for that is God created mankind.
unidentified
It's not possible.
It's not created on the planet.
jordan holmes
They are, by definition.
unidentified
But all the creative genius, all the magnificent...
steve quayle
And there have been magnificent things that men, in their honor of God, look at this.
They kicked God out.
No prayer in school.
Now they kick God out of everything.
The universities, which most, even Christians, send their kids to.
alex jones
Now they say don't say mother or father.
Now they say purple penguin.
dan friesen
There we go.
jordan holmes
There we got it.
dan friesen
We got it in.
jordan holmes
What is Unit 731?
dan friesen
Probably some Chinese military group or something like that.
jordan holmes
No, that's the one working with Dr. Ishii, so that one has to be Japanese.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't care.
It doesn't mean anything.
jordan holmes
I want to know who Unit 731 is.
dan friesen
It doesn't mean anything towards his arguments.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
I'll look it up.
jordan holmes
I like that the idea is eating baby parts changes us at the genetic level.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
Is that how that works?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's like a carrot.
You know, you eat a carrot and it changes you.
Makes you healthier.
jordan holmes
That's...
I mean, but not at the genetic level?
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
Unit 731 was a covert biological and chemical warfare research and development unit of the Imperial Japanese Army that undertook lethal human experimentation during the Second Sino-Japanese War of World War II.
jordan holmes
Alright!
Now I believe everything he said!
dan friesen
It was responsible for some of the most notorious war crimes carried out by the Japanese.
Unit 731 was based at the Pingfang district of Harbin, the largest city in the Japanese puppet state of Manchukuo, now in northeast China.
So, yeah, I mean, they did some fucked up stuff to people.
I don't know.
Doesn't prove fucking the linguistics of angels.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, where else would you find them?
dan friesen
Southeast China?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Look, don't play this game.
I don't want to play this game.
jordan holmes
I want to.
I love it.
dan friesen
I don't want to play this game where there is like a...
You know, there is some piece of real-world stuff that I haven't looked into, and that's being, like, you're pretending.
They're like, oh, yeah, that makes giants.
It means giants.
Just because I don't know one thing about this, who cares?
jordan holmes
Fuck this.
We're practicing the argument that we may have with, you know, somebody who is an info warrior, where they'll always deflect and be like, well, you didn't know about Unit 731 and Dr. Ishii.
You don't know about giants.
unidentified
Pass.
dan friesen
That is how...
jordan holmes
Alright, alright.
dan friesen
That's how I'll handle that argument.
jordan holmes
That's a great practice.
dan friesen
Here's what I'll do.
I'll be like, hey man, I'll tell you what.
I'm gonna punt on Unit 731.
You can have it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Let's talk about more important issues like the linguistics of angels.
jordan holmes
What do you think...
What kind of mathematician in South America is going to discover, or at the very...
At the very least, look for the language of fallen angels.
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
It's wild stuff.
But it's, you know, it's like, it's this idea, I think that, and it's in Lovecraft throughout, like, this idea of people getting in over their heads.
Like, a lot of the protagonists of Lovecraft's stories are, like, antiquarians and, like, just researchers or professors.
Because everybody is basically molded on Lovecraft himself.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So there's just people who are interested in old-timey stuff and maybe like to read and write, and then they accidentally get mixed up with Dagon or Yogg-Sothoth.
jordan holmes
Because the only true sin is looking for information.
dan friesen
Right.
And so I think that that's kind of spiritually...
I don't think he's ripping off Lovecraft, but I think that's spiritually the same thing.
It's like this mathematician was...
I don't know.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
This mathematician.
dan friesen
None of it's true!
jordan holmes
Notice a notoriously field-based study.
Mathematician.
dan friesen
You gotta go out there in the field and find new numbers.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, look.
Unit 731 might have done some villainous shit.
But there's a real villain in the world that we're not even taking into consideration.
jordan holmes
Who's that?
dan friesen
Steve Quayle would like to explain it.
steve quayle
People can't identify as supernatural, if you will, brilliance orchestrating evil.
Now, if I deal on that whole statement, obviously the Illuminati is going to say we were seeded by aliens.
That's called panspermia.
The Vatican is getting ready to baptize aliens.
dan friesen
That's not what panspermia is, but be that as it may.
jordan holmes
Why does the Vatican need to get ready to baptize aliens?
Are they setting up different equipment?
dan friesen
I remember actually hearing something about this, and I think it was just like a hypothetical conversation that it was like...
jordan holmes
Oh, like, if we do eventually meet aliens, how do we convert them?
dan friesen
Would we be open to that?
jordan holmes
This is why Catholicism is terrible.
The first thing that they think of with aliens is, how do we make them Catholic?
dan friesen
How do we save their souls?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
But anyway, Steve, what do you got?
steve quayle
Well, I differ from all those guys as this.
While it's easy for them to...
I think the Pentagon's official name for them is the Sumerian gods.
All those things are fallen angels masquerading as something.
The Bible's very clear.
I believe that, you know, obviously God created Adam and Eve, not, you know, somebody from the planet Antares.
But in order to deceive, in order to seduce, in order to destroy, the fallen angels have perpetrated, have populated the planet, and even all the Mesoamericans recorded, Native Americans recorded.
jordan holmes
That's a way better anti-Case.
steve quayle
God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Samaria gods.
The idea is simply this, Alex.
It's the greatest deception in the history of the universe.
unidentified
A little bit grandiose.
jordan holmes
A little bit grandiose.
steve quayle
If someone says the aliens created mankind, I said, then who created the aliens?
You see, because the law first mentioned.
So what I'm trying to get people to understand is that we're seeing the Pope show up on the 23rd of September, and the Vatican, Tom Horne, has done an amazing job of basically writing out the Vatican's own statements on the aliens, and that they will baptize aliens, and then the idea came out.
Can you have an alien saved by Jesus?
The answer to that is no, because Jesus didn't die for the angels that sinned.
He died for mankind.
Jesus absolutely makes that clear.
So, look at the attack on Jesus.
Anything is fair game, and you know this.
See, this spiritual realm is coming into the visible, physical realm.
Book of Revelation states the world wants you to inhabit the earth for the devil, your adversary, has come down, knowing he has but a short time.
People can't separate the wrath of God, which is at the end of the tribulation, from the wrath of Satan.
jordan holmes
What about the wrath of God?
steve quayle
Well, sure.
unidentified
Yes.
alex jones
I mean, I know this.
I mean, even if you were an atheist, if I was an atheist, which I'm not researching this, I would discover the elite believe they are being influenced by interdimensional creatures that give them special knowledge to be in control.
And then you see how the eugenicists came up with all these plans 160 years ago.
It is not of this world, as the Bible says.
It's devilish.
I mean, it's the only way to describe it.
dan friesen
Oh, man, that's dumb.
unidentified
I love how they're so close.
jordan holmes
These people are so stupid, but they're so close.
Like, oh, aliens created people?
Well, who created aliens?
For God.
Well, who created God?
alex jones
Aha!
dan friesen
The law of first men.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Come on, man.
dan friesen
God came into existence of his own will.
jordan holmes
It's turtles all the way down, my friend.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
So, yeah, I mean, that is like, you know, just like Larry Nichols made that logical slip up at the beginning of the episode, Steve made the identical goof in terms of not recognizing what his words imply.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Beyond that, he's just crazy.
jordan holmes
This dude is...
Basically ripping off Snow Crash.
dan friesen
Well, you know what else he's expressing, essentially, is a lot of the stuff that Zachariah Sitchin wrote about.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I don't know that name.
dan friesen
You don't know Zachariah Sitchin?
Goddamn.
This episode's gonna be really long.
steve quayle
Okay.
dan friesen
It won't.
I'll deal with Zach here real quick.
jordan holmes
Do you know him well enough to call him Zack?
dan friesen
I do.
I've read a couple of his books.
He, along with Eric Von Daniken, are the two guys who are really, you could say, are the most responsible for the ancient aliens phenomenon.
The TV show is very based on a lot of his research.
I believe Giorgio Tsoukalos, the guy with the crazy hair on that show, he is a student of Zachariah Sitchin.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
He wrote a book called The Tenth Planet.
It's a series of seven books.
I read the first two because after that I was like, this is fucking garbage.
Basically, he just mistranslates a bunch of old Sumerian texts to...
Make the argument that Enlil and Enki are two alien gods that existed on our planet way back.
They created humanity as a slave race in order to mine gold for them because they needed aerosolized gold or something like that in order to fix the environment of their planet.
Something along those lines.
Anyway, they come back periodically because...
They're on Planet X, or as people call it, Nibiru.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That has an elliptical orbit.
jordan holmes
That's where we got X-Man from.
dan friesen
Sure.
It has an elliptical orbit, so it goes around on a much longer scale than we are aware of.
That way, since we've had telescopes, it's been outside of our range.
It's been too far.
I know, it's dumb, but that's the argument they make.
jordan holmes
I think they have mathematically proved that there's a good possibility there is a tenth planet.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
Based on the wobble of orbits.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there are some gravitic changes that occur.
dan friesen
But it's not this.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
How can you be sure?
dan friesen
I'm pretty sure.
jordan holmes
Unit 731 was actually on Planet X during this whole thing.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
The argument was that in 2012, one of the big overlying theories was...
That was when Planet X was going to come back, and the ancient Sumerian gods would see what humanity had become since the last time they left.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And it's, I mean, now, five years later, it did not happen.
jordan holmes
Did we ever actually translate Sumerian?
Isn't that based on a different...
dan friesen
No, I believe that they have.
They have translated stuff, but Eric Von Daniken and Zachariah Sitchin, according to scholars, they are not accurate in their translations.
jordan holmes
They are not even accurate in their names.
Those are not real names.
dan friesen
I like them.
jordan holmes
I like them too, but that's why they're not real.
dan friesen
I think that...
jordan holmes
Eric Von Daniken?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is...
It doesn't get more made up than that.
dan friesen
Giorgio Tsoukalos?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Come on, man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But anyway, I mean, Steve Quayle's into the same shit.
He's making reference to that stuff.
And, you know, all of the ancient aliens theories had tons of giants in them too.
And the Nephilim and stuff like that.
And so, like...
Alex is allowing a guy who legitimately believes this stuff based on wild interpretation of the Bible to be on his show.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And his response to everything is like, wow, the globalists believe this, so we gotta be real about it.
It's so cowardly.
jordan holmes
Are there even...
dan friesen
He believes this stuff.
jordan holmes
Are there even fallen angels in the Bible?
I know angels come down.
But I didn't know there were any actual fallen ones.
dan friesen
Well, I think, I believe...
jordan holmes
Unless they came down and, like, they tripped and, you know, they got stuck under an ice flow.
dan friesen
Look, I don't know everything about the Bible, but as I recall, there is, like, a passage about angels.
They're not supposed to fuck ladies.
And they came down and they fucked ladies.
jordan holmes
Oh, goddamn those angels.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Look, I don't know.
I don't know if there are fallen angels in the Bible.
I don't believe there are.
And if there are, who cares?
jordan holmes
Good point.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Very good point.
dan friesen
So anyway, you might think that I'm being unfair about...
jordan holmes
To what?
dan friesen
To Steve Quayle?
jordan holmes
Yes, we could be being unfair to Steve Quayle.
dan friesen
About his beliefs.
You're like, hey, Dan, he didn't say he believes in Planet X. Art in Canada.
alex jones
You're on the air.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Hi.
Thank you, gentlemen.
My question to Steve is prompted by a discussion he had with George Norrie earlier this year.
And it's this, Steve.
Are you still expecting some sort of Planet X appearance event early next year?
steve quayle
Well, I actually expect it.
I think we're seeing it.
We're experiencing the gravitational, the climatic, and the volcanoes.
There's all kinds of pressures.
I'm talking gravitational pressures and other pressures being placed on the Earth.
So, yeah, I think you're seeing it.
dan friesen
All right.
Planet X is already here.
jordan holmes
Gravitational pressures?
Volcanoes.
dan friesen
Yep.
So I'm not being unfair.
Anyway, Steve Quayle is crazy, and Alex Jones believes him, and that's where he gets a lot of his chimera narrative from.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
So that narrative ain't good.
jordan holmes
Nah.
dan friesen
If that guy is the one who's telling you that they're putting fetal brains in cockroaches, you do not have a good source.
So...
jordan holmes
Probably not.
dan friesen
Nope.
I think this might be time for that narrative to be busted.
jordan holmes
Who possibly...
Who would you believe?
If they were telling you that they were actually...
What level of credulity do you have to have?
If Stephen Hawking came out and said, Yeah, you know what?
When I was working with the government, we put a shit ton of brains in a whole bunch of stuff.
dan friesen
I would say, my man, I don't believe you.
I think that until someone were to fully lay out how that works, what the point of it is...
jordan holmes
That's not important.
dan friesen
And then let me hang out with a baby-brained cockroach.
I don't think I'm going to believe it.
jordan holmes
That would be fun, though.
dan friesen
If you have, like, a cockroach with human intelligence?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be a great weekend.
dan friesen
No, it wouldn't.
I got nothing in common with a cockroach, and I have nothing in common with a baby.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, there's our issue.
We need middle-aged cockroaches.
dan friesen
Sure.
Salty Vietnam vet cockroach.
I'm into that.
I could hang out with that guy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the only problem is it's kind of tragic because the cockroaches are homeless, really.
dan friesen
Yeah, and they are out there fishing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
These cockroaches won't stop fishing on the hike and bike trail.
jordan holmes
These Guatemalans have teamed up with these cockroaches and now we're fucked.
dan friesen
So that's the end of where we cover August 27th.
And we move along to August 28th.
And on this episode, we got some weird stuff.
We got a little bit of weirdness.
And Alex, in the end, makes a very bad admission that we'll get to in a second.
But here's how he sort of begins.
He starts by making a pretty uncharacteristic praise kind of statement for a former world leader.
alex jones
And yes, it's true.
The globalists went into every country that tried to stabilize.
You can say what you want about.
South Africa under apartheid, it was building up all of Africa.
Not defending it, not defending Gaddafi and his socialism.
But he really lived in a tent, had a small compound with a swimming pool, and gave almost all of the country's money to the poor, women in college, real jobs, highways, aquifers, jet aircraft jobs.
I mean, that place was nice.
unidentified
It's gone.
alex jones
They admit it's totally destroyed.
He was giving loans and building up Africa and building roads.
Because he was a cocky peacock.
I don't think he was a bad guy.
What?
You don't think Gaddafi was a bad guy?
He wanted to build up Africa.
He wanted old-fashioned prosperity.
jordan holmes
There it is.
alex jones
And I don't endorse socialism, but the only way it works is a philosopher king that has a bunch of resources.
Like in the old days, gold or water, or in his case, oil and water.
Big aquifer.
And he was just giving it all away.
dan friesen
He was just giving that oil away.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know Qaddafi.
Well known for his philanthropy.
dan friesen
Giving away that shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
You know why Alex supports Qaddafi, though?
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Because he was trying to implement a gold-backed system of currency.
He was trying to get off the petrodollar.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And so Alex Jones' argument is that's why the globalists killed him.
And also, like, of course, he hates the central banks and what have you, so all of Qaddafi is, like, gassing his people and shit like that.
jordan holmes
Wave it off.
Wave it off.
Prosperity.
You can gas as many people as you want in the name of prosperity.
That actually sounds like something he does believe in.
It's very scary to me right now.
dan friesen
Sure, he wants Assad to just go back to Europe or whatever.
Just say, hey, go hang out in England.
You're fine.
jordan holmes
They had a deal.
They had a secret deal with the United States military.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I just think that's super weird, but it does sort of illustrate what his priorities are and what sort of red lines are for him.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's like war crimes.
Cool.
Prosperity trumps a lot.
jordan holmes
More important, yeah.
dan friesen
So, we get into this next clip, and it is a little bit of discussion of Trump.
And on this episode, Alex Jones, I think, is starting to show some cracks with Rand Paul.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think he's starting to resent Rand Paul not listening to him.
Because for about two months now, he's been on the air saying, Rand, I like you, you're the best.
But you need to start being a dick.
You need to start attacking people.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Attacking Hillary.
You need to do much harder on immigration.
You need to be embarrassing in public.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Stop comporting yourself with dignity.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Sick of that shit.
dan friesen
Trump is showing you the new way.
And you're not getting on board.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so I think that he's starting to have that.
I think that will be what ends up breaking him away from Rand Paul, is his own petty resentment that Rand Paul isn't listening to him.
So here's a little clip about that.
alex jones
When I get on air, it's serious time.
jordan holmes
Chimeras.
alex jones
I want to illustrate what's happening with the collapsing borders and where the endgame of this goes, then Hillary, then Trump, then the economy, your phone calls.
But before I forget to go there...
I could just see the Rand Paul strategy as I was hiking up this hill.
And I haven't really criticized Rand Paul.
And I've tried to be friendly about it.
And Rand Paul is the clear best person.
He was a frontrunner until a few months ago with Donald Trump.
I can't find a fault with what Donald Trump says.
I really like it.
I want to believe in him, but he's got a checkered past.
You've got to really have some reservations, but he's a lot better than Hillary Clinton, obviously, on the surface, or Jeb Bush.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I mean, we can see it there.
He's starting, I feel like that's an indication he's starting to drift from Rand Paul, but at the same time, every time he says it, he says he does not trust Trump still.
So, there we are.
jordan holmes
How many weeks are we on with this?
It's been forever.
Yeah, he's constantly talking about Trump.
At this point, of course, nobody could stop talking about Trump, which is one of the big problems is they got billions of dollars in free advertising.
But how many times can you say, I love everything he says, but I don't trust him?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because that's all he's been repeating over and over and over again.
dan friesen
It's almost like he's trying to create a will they, won't they, Dr. House, Dr. Cuddy type situation.
unidentified
Alright.
dan friesen
I love House.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
But, I mean, here, let me play this next clip.
He has an interview with Peter Schiff, and they talk a lot about how you gotta buy gold.
jordan holmes
Gotta buy gold.
dan friesen
He also explains, Peter Schiff also explains you should buy property in Singapore.
Great.
Ooh!
jordan holmes
Yeah, a lot of Alex Jones listeners are really looking to buy property in Singapore.
dan friesen
The Singapore property market is hot in 2015.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
And also, I've done a little bit of looking into this, and somebody calls in and is like, hey, Peter Schiff, you've lost a lot of people a ton of money.
And he's like, I'm not in it for the short game.
Yeah, sure.
We're down right now.
But we're going to come back up.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
This is the long-term stuff.
jordan holmes
Hedge funds don't go well when that's your philosophy.
dan friesen
It's rough, especially when you're the son of someone who didn't pay taxes on millions of dollars.
jordan holmes
Ah, come on.
dan friesen
And got a lot of people arrested because of that.
jordan holmes
Ah, taxation is violence.
dan friesen
So he has him on, and they have this clip that also indicates some weird allegiances in terms of who he's pulling for in the 2016 election.
steve quayle
I mean, Bernie Sanders would be a gift.
peter schiff
I mean, if we could run against Bernie Sanders, But I don't know if even the Democrats are dumb enough.
alex jones
I don't know if I agree with you, though.
I mean, I agree Biden is slicker, has less baggage, and kind of gets to the blue-collar workers and people.
But Hillary is a woman.
And they can just hype.
She's a woman.
Vote for a woman.
I think that really is a Trump card.
unidentified
Well, maybe the best thing we could do then, you know, Carly Fiorina, I don't know if she's been on your show.
dan friesen
She was on my show.
unidentified
I like her.
jordan holmes
I mean, she's a smart guy.
alex jones
I like her, too, yeah.
peter schiff
You know, and so, I mean, if you had her against Hillary, I mean, you know, you take away the woman advantage, and now, you know, it's going to be a woman president no matter who you vote for, so now it's who's more competent.
And I think if it's a race about politics and intelligence and real resumes, I think Carly beats out Hillary any day.
alex jones
Sure, she's run major companies and hired tens of thousands of people and made millions of dollars.
All Hillary Clinton's done is go around and commit crimes.
dan friesen
A little reductive, but...
jordan holmes
A little bit.
dan friesen
At the same time...
jordan holmes
Also, she has made millions of dollars.
Gotta give her that.
dan friesen
Sure.
I mean, if everything is just based on capitalism, hooray.
But at the same time...
jordan holmes
Everything is just based on free market, Dan.
dan friesen
Alex, at this point, has essentially endorsed half the field.
Yeah.
Like, he's endorsed Carly Fiorina, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, there's tons of people he's saying like...
jordan holmes
Everybody but Jeb Bush and Trump.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Basically.
dan friesen
And for different reasons.
Fuck you to Jeb Bush.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then with Trump, he's in this weird cock tease game that's going on.
He's not doing that to any of these other candidates.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
He's behaving very weirdly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's already come down on one side or the other with everybody.
dan friesen
Everybody.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I hate you or I don't hate you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's super fucked up.
Oh, I will say, we never played it on here, but he has said that Chris Christie is a fat piece of shit.
Basically, he said that he's a globalist swine in one of you.
jordan holmes
There, I have zero reservations in fully endorsing that position.
dan friesen
Right, so that's why we never played it.
It was just like, alright, whatever.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, you nailed it, buddy.
dan friesen
In hindsight, I should have kept that in just because it does document further his feelings about the candidates.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this next clip, this is going to be a Mike Down one.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Because Alex wants to explain to you that he doesn't have any responsibility for the situations that happen in the third world.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
That would be a position.
jordan holmes
Yeah, so we can't stop there.
dan friesen
He keeps talking, and it leads to another position.
Each of them are not great, but together, they're very bad.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So here we go.
Enjoy this.
This is delightful.
alex jones
And again, even when these hardcore communists get control, they just want to wreck everything.
They don't even want to maintain their control of the country.
They just want to run it over the edge of a cliff.
And that's why the elites themselves are having to run out of the way places and build armored fortresses to fight the policies they themselves schizophrenically brought in.
And I'm not against the immigrants themselves.
But I have no responsibility when somebody in North Africa or somebody in Nicaragua or somebody in Saudi Arabia or Turkey Or wherever they're from, wants to have seven kids, and then they want to bring them here?
And then I'm supposed to go, oh, you're a foreign culture.
I mean, I'm actually a worldly guy, and I'm not proud of that.
I am worldly.
I kind of like other cultures and weird stuff and interesting people.
I don't like run-of-the-mill, basic, you know, vanilla ice cream, one flavor.
But man, I want to be able to do what I want, and I don't want you telling me what to do.
And this whole leftist garbage is about saying I'm bad because...
I'm attracted to women of every color and creed, but I mean, I'll just be honest with you.
I'm probably the most attractive on average to white women.
And it's not because I'm racist.
All the genetic studies show black people are more attractive on average to other black people.
It's genetic.
I can't say if it's blondes or brunettes.
I mean, I can't really tell you.
I just know that that's what I'm most attracted to.
I see Asian women that are...
Black women that are...
Hispanic women that are incredibly gorgeous.
But deep down, I click and...
Am I bad for being white?
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
dan friesen
Whatever, Alex.
jordan holmes
Listen, ladies.
Alex wants to fuck.
dan friesen
If you're white.
jordan holmes
That's true.
But, you know, white's on top for Alex.
unidentified
In all aspects of his life, white's on top.
dan friesen
He's made a power ranking of races in terms of their attractiveness.
jordan holmes
He's not sure if it's blondes or brunettes.
What does that even mean?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Some black people are...
That's degrading.
jordan holmes
Hispanic women?
No, they're only amazing.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
There's no whistles for what is happening.
dan friesen
I don't know what that's doing on his show.
jordan holmes
I don't understand why he's saying it.
unidentified
I don't either.
jordan holmes
Who needs to know this information?
dan friesen
I think it's his internalization.
unidentified
He's projecting stuff.
jordan holmes
Every morning I wake up just like, what color of women does Alex like the most?
dan friesen
Now we know.
jordan holmes
Now we know.
dan friesen
Thank God he covered that.
jordan holmes
I can put that in the book.
dan friesen
Close it up.
Oh, yeah!
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And by virtue of the fact that you live in a civilization that sort of...
jordan holmes
Often has exploited and caused.
dan friesen
Yeah, you could say that.
That does mean that you have some responsibility for third world populations.
And you're super against contraception, you're super against those sort of educational, reproductive education, whether it be in this country or other countries.
So why don't you shut the fuck up about people in third world countries having seven kids?
Wonder if they had access to healthcare.
Maybe it wouldn't be that way.
jordan holmes
Hey, people in Turkey.
Alex has one word for you.
Stop fucking.
dan friesen
Pull out.
That's one word?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
But dude, that stuff about who he's attracted to is such insane guilt.
It's that same thing that he always does.
I don't want to be made to feel guilty.
Whenever he sees, like...
jordan holmes
Wait, you think that's...
Okay, so you're saying that by...
dan friesen
I don't think it's racist necessarily to be attracted to someone of your own race.
I think it's racist to be exclusively attracted to people of any race.
Like, when you fetishize...
There's a lot of people who fetishize, like, Asian women.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that's incredibly racist.
I think there's a lot of people who fetishize any population, and I think that's wrong, because you're treating somebody as a thing as opposed to a person.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can see that.
dan friesen
I don't think that that...
But at the same time, recognizing that often, statistically, someone of race A ends up dating someone also of race A. That's not racist.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So Alex Jones being like, primarily...
jordan holmes
And a lot of the time it's just proximity.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, think of how segregated Chicago is.
It's not...
You know, you're just around the same people.
dan friesen
And it's cultural, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
It's constructed.
It's not genetic.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That's absurd.
The things that he...
jordan holmes
Dan, what would your ranking of the races be?
dan friesen
I refuse to answer that question.
jordan holmes
Of fucking course not.
dan friesen
I think women are attractive and whatever.
People of all...
jordan holmes
See, I just see that as very misogynistic.
dan friesen
Very.
Especially the wolf whistle.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, it's insanely...
It's putting himself in the position of power.
Like, all that matters is who he's attracted to.
Doesn't matter if anybody else is attracted to him.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
He's the one who does the stuff.
dan friesen
He's the arbiter of value.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And he's using outright misogyny in order to dodge racism.
jordan holmes
To justify his racism, yeah!
dan friesen
Very strange.
jordan holmes
It's a one-to-one trade.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm so fascinated by these things that he embodies and doesn't even realize.
He never gave a second thought to that.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
He didn't get off air and he was like...
Ooh, that was fucked up.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He doesn't do anything.
He's just like, yeah, so what?
I stuck it to him.
I explained my position on women.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, he's just...
dan friesen
He's a mess.
jordan holmes
Like, he seems to be a product, or not just a product of his environment, but the distillation of his environment.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Like, all of this stuff is absorbed by...
A lot of people where he grew up.
Texas is our most you-name-it state.
And it is all of these things that are ingrained into you just purely by existing in the culture.
It is osmosis.
He doesn't even necessarily need to be told, oh, this is how you treat women because it's just how they all...
dan friesen
Treat women, I guess.
There's some bizarre ideas about chivalry that are infantilizing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that whole thing.
And because of his utter lack of self-awareness, to him, if you're challenging that, you're challenging him.
dan friesen
You're challenging everything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Yep, but he's dumb.
Anyway, let's move on to this next clip.
In it, Alex Jones explains one of the negative outcomes of immigration.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
And he's wrong.
alex jones
Take a...
North African town.
Do you think a North African town of 1,000 people, if 2,000 Germans show up homeless with no money and say, take care of me, what would the North Africans do?
jordan holmes
They would not lovingly take care of them.
alex jones
But the Germans, it's like, take 500, take 1,000, take 2,000, and they're just like, now it's, take them in your house.
And it's like, no!
You're a racist!
You're a racist!
I mean, at a certain point, that will make people go Hitler.
dan friesen
Yikes!
jordan holmes
That'll make people go Hitler?
dan friesen
Go Hitler!
alex jones
Wow!
jordan holmes
That was actually the...
It was between Breaking Bad and Go Hitler at the end, and they went with Breaking Bad.
dan friesen
You know, the presumption in that sentence is that Hitler just had an ass full of immigration.
jordan holmes
Too many people!
dan friesen
And he was just like, I've had enough.
That's what made him break.
jordan holmes
That was it?
dan friesen
As opposed to...
Just being hateful from the jump?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And scapegoating a certain ethnicity?
And multiple ethnicities.
jordan holmes
The constant rewriting of Hitler's motivation to just justify whatever it is you want to say is bananas to me.
dan friesen
Especially when on this episode we've dug up that he may entirely believe with someone who believes that Nazis still have under-ice bases at the polar caps.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So...
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Well, if you go to any North African town, you might wander upon Hitler.
dan friesen
It's true.
jordan holmes
That's how he got there.
dan friesen
It's true.
These Germans who come in penniless.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So, also, I told you earlier that Alex Jones, on this August 28th episode, makes a startling admission.
And here it is.
I think that this is deeply problematic, and Alex might not even recognize what he is saying.
alex jones
We are going to do that in the next segment, but right now, another clip.
This is a black transgendered Lives Matter group chanting Hillary for prison.
So see, I'm getting on the Jenner ticket here.
Absolutely.
unidentified
Let's go ahead and go to that clip.
Hillary made this for prison.
Red one!
alex jones
I saw a bumper sticker six months ago, Hillary Clinton for prison, and I forgot to tell them to make it.
Then I said on air a few weeks ago, Hillary Clinton for prison.
Infowars shirts.
I mean, I don't care.
I just want to produce them.
I want to have a limited run of Hillary Clinton for prison t-shirts.
I know folks are already selling them.
Can we turn that around and get that done in the next week?
Okay.
dan friesen
So Alex Jones just admitted on his show he stole Hillary for prison.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He stole intellectual property from someone else.
jordan holmes
Eh, but he doesn't want to profit off of it.
He just wants to make them.
Limited run.
dan friesen
Hundreds of thousands of those shirts.
jordan holmes
Limited run.
dan friesen
He's still selling those shirts.
jordan holmes
It's one of those things he's just getting the word out.
dan friesen
He's made so much money on those shirts.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's absurd.
That might be the admission of a crime.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know who owns that.
I don't know who made those bumper stickers.
jordan holmes
Should have mailed a copyright to himself.
dan friesen
If you were the person who made these bumper stickers, please email us.
I'll send you this clip.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And please sue Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that'd be fun.
dan friesen
Also, the other thing is those people are cheering Hillary divest from prisons.
They're talking about the private prison industry.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, there was a...
Like, there is that kind of blurred Hillary...
dan friesen
I'm not 100% sure, but I've listened to it a number of times, and I believe that what they're saying is Hillary divest from prisons.
And that was an issue that came up that she has taken money from the private prison industry.
Right.
unidentified
And that's super fucked up, I believe.
jordan holmes
Well, and when she was in Arkansas, she used slaves.
Right.
unidentified
So that's maybe a problematic issue.
dan friesen
I think that Alex Jones is, you know, he's being a little bit fast and loose with this, trying to pretend that these African American trans...
Youth are on the same team as him.
Yeah, and the reality is they're not saying Hillary you should go to prison It's Hillary stop taking money from private prisons.
Yeah that are incarcerating tons of people Alex Jones doesn't seem to want to talk about that issue all that much Oh, yeah, I don't know.
I don't hear I don't hear it come up much anyway.
Let's move on to August 30th We're done with the 28th.
That was a Friday Uh-huh and now you have your day off on Saturday and we come back with Even God rested.
As we know, Sundays are trial balloons.
They are soft launches of narratives.
And the narrative that Alex Jones is going to be pushing is that the race war has already started.
unidentified
Oh!
jordan holmes
It's already begun.
dan friesen
Yep.
And so Alex Jones in this first clip explains, what is a race war?
alex jones
And we talk about a race war.
It's not like black people and white people lining up to kill each other.
It's the triumph of brainwashing and controlled media getting unstable blacks and whites to go out and kill each other.
And then the media won't even say the praise of the people that are doing it when they're black.
dan friesen
Yeah, the music got really loud because I think they could sense he's getting into icy territory.
And what he said there right before it cut out to break is that the media won't even talk about it if they're black.
So even within his, like, these dumb whites and blacks are going to be shooting at each other and killing each other.
jordan holmes
But it's the black people's fault.
dan friesen
All right.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So congratulations, Alex.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Yep, you betray yourself, and you should really pay that guy who turns the music up more.
jordan holmes
So wait, race war is a triumph of...
dan friesen
Brainwashing.
jordan holmes
Brainwashing.
dan friesen
Yes.
What don't you understand?
jordan holmes
Start at the beginning?
dan friesen
The globalists are trying to trick whites and blacks to hate each other and the triumph will be once whites start killing blacks, blacks start killing whites, and then the media doesn't report on the fact that black people are killing white people.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
So it's not black people and white people lining up to kill each other until it is black people and white people lining up to kill each other.
dan friesen
If Alex has his druthers, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That would be probably how it ends.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So I mentioned earlier that Alex Jones endorses someone for president who's not run out.
jordan holmes
I love how he just doesn't have a comprehension for why there is a fully justifiable resentment.
Yeah.
It's not brainwashing.
It's like, I'm totally on board.
Every day that black people aren't murdering shit tons of white people is like, guys, come on.
It's time for you.
dan friesen
Come on, do it.
jordan holmes
We've got it coming.
dan friesen
It's a remarkable act of restraint.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
That is very admirable, quite frankly.
But, Alex.
He wants to say, you know, he's already said Jesse Ventura should run for president, who's not running.
No.
Here is him endorsing someone else who's not running.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, we are live, broadcasting worldwide on this 30th day of August, 2015.
And here's the headline at Infowars.com that says it all with the video clip of the sheriff on the news nationally.
Of course, guest of this broadcast as well, now becoming really a national leader because of his articulate, educated, informed, libertarian slash conservative stance.
And that, of course, is Sheriff David Clark, who I'd love to see run for president.
I mean, this guy really has it down.
I've seen him get up and give hour-long speeches to groups online.
I've seen the speeches, and he just really knows what he's talking about.
He doesn't have notes, doesn't have a teleprompter.
He's the real deal, and just everything he says makes complete sense.
He's really got it.
dan friesen
You know what he also has got?
He's got dead people in his jails.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
From neglect.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Seems to be, I mean, for me is a bigger issue than him not using cards or a teleprompter.
jordan holmes
He doesn't use a teleprompter.
That makes him Alex Jones' buddy.
dan friesen
It's fascinating to me, and I think it's something that we haven't really dealt with, but it is so important for Alex Jones and these people on the right.
It's a propaganda point that they get to make.
It's like, we don't use teleprompters.
We're just real.
There's a feigned authenticity in that that they use to attack people who have scripted speeches as like, oh, you're fake.
jordan holmes
You idiots spent time thinking about what you want to say?
What is wrong with you?
That's not being real.
Being thoughtful isn't being real.
What's being real is saying whatever dumb shit pops out of your mouth at any point in time.
dan friesen
I mean, this philosophy absolutely works for stand-up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, also, these people who you think aren't scripting things are just people who are good at making it seem like they're not scripting things.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're not giving off-the-cuff speeches in the same way that a good stand-up comedian, it seems like they're saying something for the first time.
jordan holmes
Oh, it sounds like they're just talking to you.
dan friesen
It's extemporaneous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
It's all off the top of my dome.
dan friesen
Right.
And that is the illusion.
That's the act.
Right.
And a lot of these people, I'm sure...
These speeches that Sheriff Clark has given, I'm sure they're the same thing.
jordan holmes
Even in his praise for Sheriff Clark, he uses that white code word.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
He's very articulate.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
Which has just always been used to imply that that's a surprising thing for a black person to be.
dan friesen
It's the soft bigotry of diminished expectations.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Alex is very guilty of that.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
So, I've often talked about...
How I believe that Alex Jones is super into white identity stuff and may be a full-on white nationalist and not realize it.
These next two clips are going to justify my position a little bit.
alex jones
The whole prison culture, the bad prison culture, there's a lot of innocent people in prison, but the really nasty perp culture is fusing with a bunch of misfits, I'm basically paraphrasing him, into this Black Lives Matter movement.
When we've covered this, probably a third of the people are white or Hispanic.
Who are out there wanting to rob stuff.
We're going to go to break and come back with Sheriff Clark, and then I'm going to walk through all this, and then I'm going to break down why it's happening, the big picture.
What's at the bottom of the rabbit hole, but...
I've got a bunch of videos of black people coming up and beating up white people for no reason, staying in the wrong neighborhood.
This is all happening this week.
This is happening all over the place.
This is going on in Austin, and they cover that up.
In fact, we've gotten contacted by affiliates that say this is the one issue that local government doesn't want on air.
dan friesen
That's another example of them turning that music up real loud.
jordan holmes
Yeah, local government doesn't want this on air.
unidentified
Neither do your producers, Alex.
dan friesen
I don't want to say I love it, because I don't, but just the quote, I have tons of videos of black people beating up white people.
jordan holmes
What else are you going to jerk off to at a certain point?
unidentified
Dude.
jordan holmes
He's already gone too far.
dan friesen
Come on.
Like, that's an insane quote.
And the videos that he does have are like world star hip-hop videos.
And one of them is two dudes beating up a white lady outside like a 7-Eleven.
As I recall, I didn't have the patience to do research on this again, but I remember when that happened that the lady did know them.
And there was like some history between them.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
All of these things, there's like...
There's not justifications, but there's more going on than just random acts of violence.
jordan holmes
She exemplified the knowledge fight position, which is talk shit, get hit.
dan friesen
Perhaps.
I don't know.
I don't know.
If you want to get scared and scare your audience based on weird video, like it's the knockout game stuff all over again.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, it's a good game to play.
You scare people, you can make money.
But at the same time, what you're doing is an incredible disservice.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You're just making white people scared of black people because you don't have a ton of black people listening.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's an amplified racist form of what local news has done for forever.
Are your kids playing the rainbow game?
And you're like, what the fuck are you idiots talking about?
dan friesen
But unlike that, the rainbow party stuff is just, that's sweet.
That's just cool.
jordan holmes
That's just cool?
dan friesen
Yeah, that's cool shit.
But this stuff is, like, it really is a preemptive justification for when white people kill black people.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That's all he's doing.
He's setting it up in advance so he can justify it later.
jordan holmes
It's defensive.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's defensive.
dan friesen
It's really bad.
jordan holmes
We've been oppressed by black people for too long.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
I mean, that PC argument is sort of along the same lines.
We're being oppressed by these minority groups that are legitimately oppressed because we can't say offensive words about them.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
That is really the thought process.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
It really is.
dan friesen
Because what they're doing is they're trying to change speech.
They're trying to change the way we define things, and at that point they'll be able to get our guns.
That's basically it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's cockamamie.
jordan holmes
God, these people are stupid.
dan friesen
So I feel like I've been a little unfair, possibly.
I mean, I've tried to be as hard on myself as possible in terms of not making claims about Alex that I can't really back up.
Yeah.
And I've said that he's really afraid of white genocide, and he's into those narratives.
And I was a little bit like, ah, it's not really fair of me.
He hasn't really talked about that.
He uses some of the similar terms.
But here, I was wrong.
jordan holmes
Here we go, full white genocide?
dan friesen
I was wrong to judge myself.
alex jones
But I wanted to go over more of what's happening where all over the country, in fact, we have a clip of this we'll play in a moment, white people at parks, white people outside stores, white people in parking lots, white people at the fairgrounds or in the mall, particularly just women who are alone or women with children.
Groups of black males and black females will just come up and beat them within an inch of their life, stomping their heads and saying, you shouldn't be in this neighborhood, you're white.
And then MTV says, in this report coming up, it's impossible for minorities to be racist.
I mean, that's just the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard in my life.
It's tribalism.
All humans can act tribally.
Everybody knows that.
You got black psychopaths, white psychopaths.
You got Hispanic psychopaths, Asian psychopaths.
unidentified
We understand.
alex jones
I mean, humans generally are pretty much the same.
People vary within groups.
Everything is about averages, but it is so wild to live in a country where they're banning the word boy and girl or they'd be a dodgeball.
Where they've banned all these other words and where they're saying it's racist.
jordan holmes
I can't even say the N-word anymore.
alex jones
Just to inherently exist.
This is a push and a move to genocide.
jordan holmes
Now you're talking.
alex jones
Any type of white Western culture.
dan friesen
Yikes.
So, I mean, he's just said it.
jordan holmes
Any type of white Western culture.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What types of white Western culture are there?
dan friesen
He later goes on to say that it's because the globalists want to kill everybody.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it seems to be that he's incredibly passionate about the first part, not the last part.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, I guess he is passionate about the idea of globalists killing everybody.
jordan holmes
People are this...
It's some sort of weird kind of Jedi mind trick that he's...
That he's pulling off for his listeners, where it's like, listen, people are all the same, but black people are beating up white people.
dan friesen
All the time.
jordan holmes
All the time.
dan friesen
All over the place.
jordan holmes
And he...
dan friesen
And they're attacking as a pack.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Further dehumanizes as black males and black females.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Like, this whole fucking thing is all about...
dan friesen
They're attacking women alone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
And with babies.
Women with babies.
jordan holmes
You don't want to see women hurt.
dan friesen
No, you don't.
jordan holmes
Because we're chivalrous.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Even though he uses chivalry in terms of knights and in terms of women interchangeably.
So you never really know what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
Not sure.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is.
It is that trick.
jordan holmes
And it's even weirder because he uses that you shouldn't be in this neighborhood thing, which historically has been used so many times to murder.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
And it is not the white genocide.
It's the other one.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is.
jordan holmes
It's the other way around.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
That is one of the most...
dan friesen
We don't like your kind around here.
It's a historically white phrase.
jordan holmes
It's a super white phrase.
dan friesen
This is one thing that actually I'm a little bit ashamed that it's taken me a little while to formulate this thought.
One of the things that this serves, this sort of rhetoric that Alex Jones does, all kinds of examples throughout his speech feed into this.
When he talks about...
You know, Muslims wanting to implement Sharia law, or liberals being stupid and secretly Satanists.
Black people are beating up white people in droves.
What he's doing is he's teaching his audience to be afraid of strangers.
He's teaching his audience to further insulate themselves.
Because these black people that you see on the street, you don't know who they are.
They might just out of nowhere punch you.
These Muslims that you see, they might be terrorists.
These other white people that you see, if you don't actually know them, they might be secret liberals who are trying to help the globalists.
jordan holmes
Which is pretty much, he's doing Charles Manson.
dan friesen
He's doing a ridiculous fear of strangers, fear of the other campaign, to the point where if you really buy into him, if you buy into what he's saying, it's so much a cult.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Isolate people and reinforce their beliefs.
dan friesen
And their worst beliefs.
jordan holmes
And not just that, but if you are somebody who doesn't think that, because you're isolated and surrounded by other people who are thinking that.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
They're going to put pressure on you to get back in line.
dan friesen
What are you, going globalist?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
That's how you kind of get that cult-like mentality, that groupthink, to really take over.
And again, that's the same narrative that Manson had.
That narrative is the one that...
Is the reason that they were constantly afraid of that race war.
That pushed them closer and closer to Manson to keep them from going outside.
At any moment, you might just get race war'd.
dan friesen
The only thing that's missing from Alex is calling his group family or something like that.
I mean, that's the next stage.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, they are called Info Warriors.
dan friesen
That's true.
I mean, they are in an army.
That's sort of a family.
jordan holmes
That's not the words I like to hear.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, you know that I'm fascinated with trying to figure out where Alex Jones' narratives begin.
jordan holmes
I've heard.
dan friesen
I've read a couple of the books that he cites and found that they do not say what he thinks they say.
jordan holmes
Not even a little bit.
dan friesen
Here is an example on this episode.
Alex Jones talks a bit about...
Aldous Huxley.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And he references a speech that he gave in 1962, and I'll just let Alex speak his piece on it, and then we'll discuss it.
alex jones
And Aldous Huxley gave a speech in 1962 and wrote Brave New World Revisited and said, no, I'm part of the power elite.
We're going to have a high-tech pharmakia where we drug you and dumb you down and end sexual activity and make you asexual.
And then basically phase humans out entirely and go to machines.
His brother, of course, ran UNESCO, which actually runs the UN.
He was the director general of UNESCO.
dan friesen
I don't care.
My brother runs an ice cream shop.
I'm not in big ice cream.
You know?
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I can't trust you anymore.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm in big ice cream.
So this is something that actually I have realized that Alex Jones has been into for quite a while.
He made a documentary years back called Endgame, and one of the pieces of evidence that he cites is this speech from Huxley, and I'll allow him to...
Let's just listen to this clip from Alex Jones' documentary, Endgame.
alex jones
Oldest Huxley, author of Brave New World and brother of Julian Huxley, gave a speech at Berkeley in 1962, shortly before his death.
He admitted that his best-selling book, Brave New World, written in 1932, was based not on fiction, but on what the elite were actually planning to implement.
dan friesen
This entire documentary, too, I should say, is fucking fascinating.
Because visually, there's not much for him to do.
And so he just plays weird images of brain control type images and people being fingerprinted.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And it's just to try...
jordan holmes
He's just doing B-roll the whole time.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
And it's just trying to make your brain associate things with things.
It's really incredibly...
jordan holmes
It's very Clockwork Orange.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
It's incredibly manipulative.
And here we go.
aldous huxley
And here I would like briefly to compare the parable of Brave New World with another parable which was put forth more recently in George Orwell's book, 1984.
I'm inclined to think that the scientific dictatorships of the future, and I think there are going to be scientific dictatorships in many parts of the world, We'll be probably a good deal nearer to the Brave New World pattern than to the 1984 pattern.
They will be a good deal nearer, not because of any humanitarian qualms in the scientific dictators, but simply because the Brave New World pattern is probably a good deal more efficient than the other.
But if you can get people to consent...
To the state of affairs in which they are living, the state of servitude, the state of being.
Well, it seems to me that the nature of the ultimate revolution with which we are now faced is precisely this, that we are in process of developing a whole series of techniques which will enable the controlling oligarchy, who have always existed and presumably always will exist, Globalists.
dan friesen
So there's a little bit more of this clip, but I wanted to cut in here because Alex is cutting up this speech like crazy.
He's editing things together that are very different parts of the speech.
jordan holmes
Really?
Even in the part that we've listened to?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's insane.
dan friesen
It's a 45-minute lecture that he gives.
And it's actually very interesting.
It's called The Ultimate Revolution.
You can find it on YouTube.
I think Aldous Huxley is a charming orator.
jordan holmes
I do like it.
dan friesen
But the thing that's important is Alex Jones' argument that Aldous Huxley has admitted that he is a part of this is hinged on the use of the word we.
In that clip right there.
jordan holmes
Oh, for fuck's sake.
dan friesen
We are developing these things like this.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
That is edited from a different portion.
He's clearly talking about there just being a trend in humanity.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That we're developing systems of control and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Universal we.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
Me and my globalist pals over here.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
Alex Jones knows what he's doing and 100% is misrepresenting this lecture.
jordan holmes
That's fucking bullshit.
dan friesen
Let's finish the clip and then I'll explain what the lecture is about.
jordan holmes
Furthermore...
It automatically disproved his earlier statement.
Like, the first line where he's saying that, oh, he's telling everybody that this is real.
He says it's a fable.
Yeah, he calls it a parable.
He's comparing the parable of...
Brave New World with 1984.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's metaphorical.
jordan holmes
And maybe he has a little bit of personal self-interest in saying that his book is more right than Orwell's book.
dan friesen
Actually, in the full speech, there's a full explanation of that, and I'll get to that in a second.
jordan holmes
Oh, that sounds fun.
aldous huxley
People can be made to enjoy a state of affairs which...
By any decent standard they ought not to enjoy.
And these methods, I think, are a real...
Refinement on the older methods of terror because they combine methods of terror with methods of acceptance.
But then there are various other methods which one can think of.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that one's obvious.
aldous huxley
There is, for example, the pharmacological method.
This was one of the things I talked about in Brave New World.
And the result would be that, I mean, you can imagine a euphoric which would make people thoroughly happy even in the most abominable circumstances.
dan friesen
I think it's my duty to inform you that that spooky background music isn't in the lecture.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I don't think they were.
Although that would be a great lecture.
unidentified
That would be pretty fun.
dan friesen
So...
jordan holmes
Yeah, Mr. Huxley, we are booking you for about 45 minutes.
Can you do that?
I have only one requirement.
dan friesen
You need to play droning wee-wee-wee music behind me.
jordan holmes
May I bring my own boombox?
dan friesen
I'm going to be playing a theremin the entire time.
So, this speech...
I'll just go ahead and explain the 1984 portion right up top.
This is something that Alex did cut out because it's connected to the stuff he was discussing at the beginning.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it's that Aldous Huxley predicts that terrorism will not be an issue in the future.
The reason that 1984 is not...
A compelling model for him is he argues that it's written in a time where terrorism is in the public consciousness.
But because he had written A Brave New World when terrorism wasn't a hot-button issue for the world, it's purer.
Because that consideration wasn't in everyone's mind.
And everyone's blinded by terrorism.
And 1984's control state is so predicated on that that he thinks that it's flawed and that terrorism won't be a problem in the future, which is a bad prediction.
jordan holmes
Yeah, 1984 is built entirely around the total and endless war.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That we are engaging in actively right now.
dan friesen
So Huxley might have been wrong in that prediction.
jordan holmes
Huxley might have gotten that one a little bit wrong.
Although he was probably right about the pharmacological stuff where, I mean, you consider the opioid epidemic.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And you are seeing that from a lot of people.
dan friesen
The drug in Brave New World.
Yeah.
That sort of thing, what we know now about pharmacological stuff, that one substance would be impossible in order to create all those effects.
But you could take multiple substances.
jordan holmes
You gotta do a speedball.
I mean, what are you doing?
What are you doing drugs if you're not speedballing?
dan friesen
So the way Alex Jones ends that clip with him saying that this is possible, it does lead the audience to think, like, oh, what he's saying is his version of things is possible now.
And in the speech, he explicitly says that one substance is not possible, but you could take a...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
In the speech, his main argument, it's called the ultimate revolution.
And what he's getting at is...
Throughout history, there have been a bunch of revolutions, like the Agricultural Revolution, mechanization, these sorts of things.
jordan holmes
So he's not talking about an actual revolution.
He's talking about whenever humanity made one turn from this stage of existence to another.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And the reason that it's the ultimate, in terms of the final revolution, is that all the past...
jordan holmes
Because he went Hitler.
dan friesen
Right.
Too many immigrants.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you look at them, like agricultural mechanization, these sorts of revolutions were external revolutions that had an effect on humans, but were not really revolutions of humans.
They were, you know, we learn how to farm, and therefore our lives change.
There's a revolution to our behavior adapting to an external thing that we've created.
Whereas this new revolution that he's talking about is one wherein humanity itself can affect its own mind-body.
And so the revolution would be internal, and at that point there would be no need for other revolutions.
jordan holmes
Right.
He would jerk off to the simulation theory.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
That would float his boat.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, I think he died in like 1970.
jordan holmes
Oh, poor guy.
dan friesen
But be that as it may, the other thing...
jordan holmes
Poor guy.
dan friesen
We were talking about this a little bit last night.
We were tilting a few beers.
One of the main points of his argument is that if you look at studies...
There is a subsection of the population, he puts it at about 20%, that is almost impossible to hypnotize.
Similarly, there's 20% that are very suggestible and can be hypnotized super easily.
The remaining 60% of the population is somewhere in the middle.
He makes the further argument that in terms of placebo effects, 20% of people report placebo with fake medication.
20% of people will not.
Respond to that, and 60% are somewhere in the middle.
So he is warning more than anything about the fact that there are a large group of our population that are incredibly easily suggestible and could be exploited by a demagogue.
jordan holmes
No.
I don't think so.
That's just some alarmist nonsense.
dan friesen
He very accurately describes how if someone were to utilize some brain control techniques that have been developed, some sort of propaganda techniques that have been developed, Alex Jones uses a lot.
jordan holmes
Can't think of any.
dan friesen
You could get a very significant portion of that 20% of super easily suggestible people to get on your side, and that could swing the entire political landscape.
jordan holmes
And when they are on your side, it is actively against their own best interests.
Yeah, so he's describing GOP voters.
dan friesen
Yeah, basically.
He is incredibly prescient on that.
And then all that other stuff about the future scientific dictatorships and those sorts of things.
jordan holmes
The technocracies that we do kind of have.
dan friesen
They're used as a negative example of what could happen if charismatic leaders who wish ill come into power.
He phrases it specifically as a negative thing, as something that we should be worried about.
Right.
jordan holmes
Like the Cultural Revolution in China.
Yeah.
dan friesen
20% super suggestible people help you swing the political landscape over to this demagogue leader, this person who wishes to be a dictator.
And one of the things, if they're really smart, that they'll end up doing is trying to implement these pharmacological means to make you happy in your slavery.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Make you happy within your bondage.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So that is what he's talking about.
He's not saying...
I'm in with them, and we're doing this.
He's saying it as like, this is a really negative outcome that could happen, and these are part of the pieces that...
Make it likely.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And he was proven correct almost immediately because the Cultural Revolution happened while he was still alive.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he was wrong about the terrorism stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he was very wrong about the terrorism stuff.
dan friesen
So anyway, the reason that I made a big deal out of this is because every time Alex has a foundational piece of his worldview, it's really important to knock it out because it's always a lie or a misrepresentation.
And we can see right there in the clips that we played him literally editing selectively the audio of that Aldous Huxley speech.
You can go listen to the full thing if you want on YouTube.
Like I said, I think he's a great orator.
There's a couple of moments that are genuinely funny.
He's a charming guy.
I don't necessarily agree with everything he was about.
I think that if you look at his biography, he's kind of an asshole.
jordan holmes
Super racist.
Yeah.
Super racist.
dan friesen
I mean, there are a lot of people who were back then, and I mean, that's still bad, but...
I mean, I like Journey to the End of the Night by L.F. Selene.
I think that's a great book, but he was an anti-Semite.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I don't know what to do with that.
jordan holmes
I like Journey, and they were very...
dan friesen
No, I'm...
jordan holmes
That's a new rumor I'm starting.
dan friesen
They were very...
jordan holmes
Journey was the most racist band of all time.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, take racism aside.
They were also shitty.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Alex Jones, you are lying about Aldous Huxley, and congratulations.
unidentified
You busted.
dan friesen
I'm proud of you.
Later, not on this episode, but...
jordan holmes
And it's always the shit that he complains about most that he does hardest.
dan friesen
Well, of course.
jordan holmes
Oh, they always cut me.
They always take me out of context.
I never do that.
dan friesen
That whole Megyn Kelly shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
And it's like, fuck you.
That's all you do.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Your entire reality is based on that shit.
dan friesen
I'm certain if we went...
And I've said this, if enough people donate, we will do an entire breakdown of Endgame or the Obama Deception, one of his documentaries, and I guarantee if we start picking that up piece by piece apart, we'll find almost every piece of evidence is selectively edited or taken out of context.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So if you want to donate, we'll do that, and please don't donate, because that's going to be a ton of work.
These fucking documentaries are like two and a half hours long.
unidentified
Jesus!
dan friesen
Yeah, they're excessive.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
He's just bored.
dan friesen
Let's move along.
We've got a couple more clips from August 30th to get through before we get to the big enchilada, as Alex would say.
In this next clip, he discusses his audience size.
alex jones
And the great testament here for me personally is that despite the fact that my delivery is not the best sometimes, we reach 20 million people a week.
Most talk show hosts exaggerate.
Now, we reach about 18 to 22 million people a week, depending on the week.
So I just say 20 million.
Let's just say 18 million.
We reach 18 million people a week worldwide.
jordan holmes
That way you know I'm not exaggerating.
alex jones
And I'm going to try to double that in the next couple years, which I've been doing exponentially.
I'm in a very dangerous position.
The New World Order engineers do not like me.
But they also know metaphysically people have a right to know the truth.
And the responsibility I've got is just boundless.
dan friesen
So that last part goes back to a lot of things that have been posted anonymously on message boards and stuff.
jordan holmes
He is the Messiah!
dan friesen
Well, that's the responsibility that's very burdensome to him.
But this idea that the Illuminati believe that they have to reveal the truth to you before they do it...
It comes from anonymous posts on message boards of people claiming to be Illuminati insiders and stuff like that.
There's a guy who went by the name Hidden Hand that did a really long question and answer session a long time back.
And that is a really big piece of this internet mythology about the Illuminati that they use this thing called lesser magic where they reveal what they're going to do to you before you do it so you have free will to try and stop them.
It's nonsense.
It's absolute bullshit.
It has no basis in anything except for anonymous posts that have been made on internet message boards.
If you want that to be your burden of proof, you are failing.
jordan holmes
No, not good.
I do like that he did tell the truth, in that he did double his audience in the next couple of years.
dan friesen
Exponentially.
jordan holmes
Exponentially.
dan friesen
But he didn't.
jordan holmes
No, he didn't really, but he is telling us now that it's about 40 million people, so he's stuck to his guns.
dan friesen
He's laying the predictive groundwork for his, now I have 40 million listeners narrative.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's using lesser magic.
dan friesen
Yeah, basically.
The thing that I want to take away from that is, I don't believe he has 18 million listeners at this point, but the idea that he would go from 18 to 40 million listeners, In two years is unfathomable.
jordan holmes
It's ridiculous.
dan friesen
There is literally no way that that kind of growth happened without him becoming one of the biggest fucking stars in the world.
He would be mobbed everywhere.
People would be camping outside his studio.
jordan holmes
That's like more people than watch Cheers.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
I was trying to look up ratings for TV shows and he would be the most popular thing in the world.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Outside of people making memes clowning on him, I don't think that's the case.
jordan holmes
Probably not.
dan friesen
So he's just a complete liar.
jordan holmes
But who can tell?
dan friesen
It's just a lie.
Anyway, this next clip has to do with why the globalists are super into immigration.
alex jones
Flooding what's left of Western Europe, flooding what's left of America with a political plan with people on their pay to riot and burn down every city when they're given the order.
If the West doesn't capitulate.
And give them what they want.
To shoot every cop on every street corner if we don't submit to political correctness.
Will we give in to terrorism?
Will we roll over and pee on ourselves?
Or will we stand up and say, no, we know your plan, you despicable monsters.
I can't even look at Hillary Clinton or Rachel Maddow.
I mean, these are hardcore people that know what they're doing.
They're in their meetings behind the scenes giving each other salutes.
This is a military operation we're facing.
They have science of control.
They're hardcore.
jordan holmes
They're giving each other salutes.
You know, like people who hailed Trump.
dan friesen
Right, right.
Spencer and his ilk.
Yeah.
Do you understand what he's saying there about the globalist plan that he conceives of in his head?
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're paying people as secret agents.
dan friesen
Well, the paying is probably what he's referencing as the goodies.
The Medicaid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that whole thing.
And if they don't capitulate, if they don't lie down to the political correctness, which is of the goals to have millions of people ready to riot in every major city, if all you want out of that is like, hey, come on, guys.
Let's use trans instead of tranny.
You might want to shoot higher.
You might want to shoot a little bit higher.
dan friesen
This seems to me like a pick your battles situation.
Possibly.
jordan holmes
I'm going to die on that hill.
dan friesen
That goes back to the being afraid of strangers.
He's making this narrative ahead of time where these people are paid to basically be there as a warning to us.
That if we don't go along with it, they are going to fuck you up.
jordan holmes
If you step out of line, they're going to destroy all major cities.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Which is crazy.
The idea that you can say they are going to try and kill every...
Not try.
They are going to kill every cop on every corner is beyond irresponsible.
Yeah, of course.
You're inciting people.
If you're saying that, you're priming your audience for the moment something goes wrong.
That's the signal.
It's time for you guys to attack.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're inciting people preemptively to future violence.
And, yeah, it's super irresponsible.
Maybe not illegal, but real fucked up.
Yeah.
This next caller, this next clip has a caller, and whenever we talk about Alex Jones being a huge old racist, here is some good evidence.
Because a legitimately fucking huge racist caller calls in, and Alex Jones is cool with it.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
And just sort of, he doesn't in any way push back on the guy at all.
He supports what the guy is saying.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
Like, let's say we take calls.
Some racist guy calls in.
We would probably hang up on him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or at very least push back against these racist talking points.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because Alex welcomes him on the show and reinforces what he's saying.
That, to me, means you are a fucking racist.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's not me using code words to try and, like, take away his free speech.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
That's me accurately assessing his behavior.
jordan holmes
It's because, like, with the former Grand Dragon, David Duke, because he gets that information where he knows in advance, I'm supposed to be against this guy, because this guy is racist.
Unlike that, this caller...
has no baggage associated with him.
So he doesn't feel the need to even pretend that he's pushing back against this.
He can just jump in happily.
alex jones
Kevin in Florida, thanks for calling.
What's your view on all this?
unidentified
Thank you, Alex.
So much.
I wanted to say that me and my brother are really, really hardcore supporters of your show.
And before I get to my point, I just wanted to say we loved your cameo in the movie A Scanner Darkly.
It was brilliant.
But dealing back to my point, as a white male, I'm so fed up with this whole Black Lives Matter thing.
I think it's totally hypocritical for it to be cool for black people to shoot white people, but any time a white person even looks at a black person wrong, it's considered racist.
alex jones
It's crazy, and this just hit me.
That's what Obama's job was, was to destroy the real civil rights movement and the Christian movement.
To have reconciliation in this country.
They're there to destroy all of that.
They know what they're doing is going to make white people incredibly racist who aren't sophisticated.
I mean, this is really cold-blooded.
unidentified
Go ahead.
I mean, I can't agree more.
Like, everything MTV, I mean, everything that all the major corporations are doing to just split race, divide down the middle.
I mean, you have white people that say they identify with black people.
Yeah, black people that identify with Mexicans and vice versa.
And I mean, the endgame, I think, is a really, really, really bad revolution because I think so many white people, especially so many hardworking whites, are so fed up with saying you're racist because of this whole BS white privilege propaganda being spewed.
Sure.
alex jones
Well, I mean, here's the takeaway, and I appreciate your call.
Of the whole show today, here's the takeaway.
The system knows there's a revolution coming because of the criminal government, the out-of-control behavior, the megabanks being exempt from taxes.
So they just want to make it all a big stupid race war.
dan friesen
So, great.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't get how you can buy that narrative.
What do you mean?
It's delicious.
You can buy that idea of...
Black Lives Matter is tearing down the civil rights movement.
dan friesen
It's funded by Soros, it's inspired by someone who killed a cop, and it's evil.
jordan holmes
I just...
dan friesen
I don't understand what you don't understand.
jordan holmes
I just don't...
dan friesen
Hard-working whites are sick of this shit.
jordan holmes
The...
unidentified
The...
jordan holmes
The fucking forced ignorance of all of that shit.
It has to be intentional.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
Like, there's no way that this guy can actually think.
dan friesen
Do you mean the caller or Alex?
jordan holmes
Everybody.
dan friesen
No, the caller I think is just dumb and misled.
I think that's possible.
Alex, on the other hand, I think is willful.
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think you're giving the caller too much credit.
dan friesen
I think there's a lot of people who are too stupid to look at relevant sources.
I think there are people who just get trapped inside bubbles of right-wing propaganda, and they reinforce each other, and they just don't see anything outside of it.
And because those right-wing propaganda sites are so vested in invalidating any other news that goes against their narrative, why would they ever think to trust, oh, here's this perspective?
Or they see a story, From somebody who's involved with Black Lives Matter who's explaining what the movement is about and gives a story.
Or even like Sean King posts something that's a moving personal story.
And they're like, oh yeah, you're just paid.
You're a paid operative.
You're just writing fiction.
That's their perspective.
It's insane.
jordan holmes
I just don't get...
What is the loss if they just go, oh, maybe.
Maybe that's right.
Maybe Black Lives.
What is the loss if these conservative propaganda outlets do that one thing?
dan friesen
You don't understand the game.
jordan holmes
Get back on your Hillary bullshit.
Get back on all of that shit.
dan friesen
You don't understand.
jordan holmes
But for one time, for one time, just be like, hey, you know what?
This is right.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
This is good.
Black Lives Matter is real.
It does matter.
And we should be part of it.
dan friesen
Because they're playing a game where every point is important.
Like, in terms of the score.
Not in terms of point, in terms of like, hey, that's a good point.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's the same reason that the NRA would fight to the tooth and nail for you to keep a bazooka.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Or something like that.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
You know, like, it's the same reason they have assault weapons that are like, oh, it's for hunting.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's the exact same reason.
If you give an inch, they think everything is gone.
So every single time that there is some sort of an argument and they have a position in it, they have to stand by it religiously.
Rigorously.
And if they give any room, they're like, ah, we've been defeated.
jordan holmes
You know what?
They might be right on that, too.
dan friesen
It seems to work.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because everyone is just like, you're a bunch of assholes.
I don't want to fight anymore.
jordan holmes
Right.
Or you look at the Clinton years, Bill.
Yeah.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
That would be nice.
But if you look at that triangulation strategy, wherein he meets these conservative people in the middle, it- Only destroyed the Democratic Party.
dan friesen
Basically, yeah.
jordan holmes
That's where it ended is you gave them an inch and now they took fucking all of it.
dan friesen
Well, it's sort of like an asymmetrical war situation where one side is at war and the other is trying to compromise.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the side that's trying to compromise will never be successful and they don't realize that given a chance...
The other side will fuck them over.
And that's not to say that Democrats are good or pure in their intentions or their actions.
jordan holmes
Good fucking God, no.
dan friesen
But by and large, they have shown themselves to be way less forceful in terms of getting their agendas.
I mean, we're seeing that right now with this fucking healthcare shit.
jordan holmes
Or you see the class warfare.
Like, billionaires have been waging a war against us for...
All the time.
dan friesen
For all the time.
But if one of us blew up a rich guy's house, all of a sudden, it's class warfare.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
All of a sudden.
I mean, don't do that.
jordan holmes
I'm not encouraging.
Or the same thing.
There is a race war going on.
It really is happening.
How many times can a cop murder?
Murder a black person and not get any justice for it.
That's the whole point of Black Lives Matter is that we don't want to kill cops.
We want justice.
We want proof that the rule of law applies to everybody equally.
dan friesen
Everyone's lives matter.
jordan holmes
And so long as that's not happening, so long as that's not changing, how can you interpret it as anything else?
But white people are still trying to keep you down.
dan friesen
There are so many instances of, like...
You know, constitutionalists and sovereign citizens attacking cops and stuff like that because they don't recognize their authority.
jordan holmes
No, but that's fine.
dan friesen
Yeah, Alex Jones would say, like, wow, percentage-wise, it's a very small part of it.
jordan holmes
Probably false flags anyways.
dan friesen
Right, absolutely.
I mean, it's such a tangled, logical bullshit thing that we can't untangle it.
Everybody out there gets it.
jordan holmes
I just don't understand.
I just don't...
Like, what...
I'm constantly thinking about, is there a way out of this?
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Because it seems like there isn't.
dan friesen
No, all we're doing is really documenting the behind-the-scenes shit that's going on that no one's paying attention to that will precipitously end our world.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I understand that we see things, because we spend a lot of time with Alex and propaganda, we see things a little bit...
There's a little tunnel vision to it.
You know, there's a lot of other stuff going on in the world that's outside of Alex's Of course.
And that is a sort of...
jordan holmes
And it's impossible for us to listen to a doomsday prophet without having any of it bleed into our beliefs.
dan friesen
But to be fair, I felt that way before I was listening to him, too.
jordan holmes
Oh, me too.
dan friesen
I felt like shit was going down.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
But anyway, I teased this.
And we're about to get to the big business.
So, Alex, on the August 30th show, before...
He goes off air, mentions that there's a big announcement coming soon.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I didn't cut a clip of that because it's just him saying there's a big announcement coming soon.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And so I was like, all right, you're on your Sunday show, and so you're probably just teasing people.
I assume to be something down the road.
Maybe it's that the fourth hour is coming back.
Which it already has, basically.
It has Rob Dew and Joe Biggs hosting the fourth hour.
Also, Jakari Jackson, he's still around.
He's doing the fourth hour sometimes, so we still have not seen him leave.
But this is the big announcement.
It comes on August 31st.
An incredibly boring show otherwise.
We have no other clips from that show, because it's just him being mad that people are killing cops.
And I don't care.
He also says some other nice things about Sheriff Clark.
But this...
Is the big announcement.
And I think that it might be the key to understanding everything.
alex jones
Totalitarianism comes in many different flavors throughout history.
It can come from the right wing, the left wing.
It can come from religious cults.
It can come from a foreign invading army.
And in the modern 21st century, it's basically coming from political correctness, masquerading as the Renaissance, masquerading as liberalism.
dan friesen
By the way, I haven't edited this to make the background theremin noise louder.
This is just poorly constructed on his part.
It's really hard to listen to.
Thankfully, that drops out here in a minute, but Jesus Christ.
alex jones
It seeks to shut down free speech.
And the controlled globalist left has willing accomplices in the Republican Party and other conservative and libertarian organizations and groups throughout the world.
The robber barons that control this planet are not free market.
They are monopoly men who seek to have systems free of competition controlled by offshore combines above the law.
The main mission of Infowars.com and my 20 years on air is to shatter the left-right paradigm and to get the public to become aware of what's really governing and controlling society on a mass scale.
jordan holmes
I disagree.
alex jones
Bottom line.
dan friesen
Well, like, if that was legitimately his goal and if what he thought was really controlling things wasn't a terrible ripoff of the Protocols of Elders of Zion and thinly veiled anti-Semitism, I would be like, cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'd be like, and if he didn't lie all the time.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
If those were his legitimate goals, I don't have a problem with destroying the right-left narrative.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
I think it's a very positive thing, the idea of bringing in third, fourth, fifth parties.
So if that was his legitimate motivation...
Hooray.
jordan holmes
And I do think we should take down the robber barons, as we did in the 30s.
dan friesen
I don't disagree with that either.
jordan holmes
That was a good idea.
We should bring back a new deal, a very socialist thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, perhaps.
jordan holmes
It would be a good idea.
That's how we take down robber barons, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, but we haven't gotten to an announcement yet.
jordan holmes
Right, no.
dan friesen
He's just laying some track here, and we're going to get to it.
alex jones
And we have reached that legendary, colossal moment in history where the next thousand years of human development, our very destiny, is being decided.
That's why we're launching Operation Money Bomb 2015, the first money bomb I've done in three years, because we only do these if they're critical to be able to build up our infrastructure.
And with the money we raise from this, we will be able to stay on the satellites and get on UHF, VHF, and cable stations across North America, reaching tens of millions of more people right at the time they're receptive and looking for answers.
Starting September 16th through the 17th, we're going to broadcast live from 11 a.m. on the 16th through 2 p.m. on the 17th for 27 hours with an amazing lineup of guests, investigative journalists, documentary films.
We are seeking to raise a million dollars so that we can reach 400 million extra people potentially in the next year.
Because if you do the math...
And if you look at the numbers that we're already getting from affiliates and from the internet and from YouTube and from Facebook and all the platforms, we are reaching 20 million people a week.
If you put all that together over a year, that's upwards of 200 million different individuals around the world is how the algorithm metrics come out.
I simply want to double that.
In the next 12 months after launching this money bomb.
Just the satellites, the closed captioning under federal law, and other regulations will cost us right at $39,000 a month, which, if you add it together, is over $400,000 a year alone.
When you talk about cameras, crew, studio, million dollars is only a portion of what we need to do this.
But it's an important part to ensure...
with the collapsing economy and the hard times we're going into, that we have the funds it takes to keep this beacon of truth, exposing globalism and dehumanization operating.
So join us this September 16th and 17th for what I believe will be the final money bomb.
that InfoWars ever runs as we prepare to launch to the next and final level of global awakening.
Nope, nope, you're not allowed.
jordan holmes
You're not allowed.
I'm going to talk over this.
alex jones
Then they laugh at you.
Then they attack you.
Then you win.
We are in that process of being massively attacked.
And in the face...
We're charging up, getting ready, and going in.
dan friesen
He uses that Gandhi quote a lot, and I actually think that Gandhi sucks for saying that, because there are a lot of people who are just being mocked.
Alex, you might be misinterpreting that there's a next stage to this.
There's not.
People are just making fun of you.
I have a lot of information about this money bomb.
That I don't think his listeners were privy to.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
One of the things is that he constantly, before this, has talked about the price of closed captioning and these sorts of fees.
jordan holmes
How much does closed captioning cost, Dan?
dan friesen
Fucking thousands a month.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
That's not the thing I'm taking issue with.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
I'm taking issue with the fact that he's pretending that these are new expenses.
These are things he's doing already.
The video cameras, the crew, he's doing that already.
He videotapes...
Live on the internet every day.
Those are the same cameras he would be using.
These are not new expenses.
This is just, I need money.
This is, I need a lot of money.
That's because there's something going wrong.
He doesn't have the money to keep the operation going.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Here is where my job as an accountant comes into play.
My day job, I'm an accountant.
jordan holmes
We struck gold.
dan friesen
I am not really a good accountant.
I don't know a lot.
I didn't study it.
jordan holmes
You're not a CPA.
dan friesen
No, certainly not.
There are certain things that I'm aware of because of that job that maybe some people aren't.
One thing I'm aware of is...
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
You know when the end of the fiscal year is?
jordan holmes
Oh, September.
dan friesen
It's the end of September.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Holy shit.
dan friesen
He can't pay his taxes.
jordan holmes
Can't pay his taxes.
dan friesen
He's already laid the groundwork for like...
The IRS is selectively trying to intimidate and bully the patriot movement.
Lois Lerner is selectively...
All these Republicans are being screwed over for taxes.
He has Peter Schiff and his dad on.
His dad's on the show, but they talk about his dad laying out this tax narrative.
I think he's incredibly concerned that he's not going to be able to pay for what he owes to the government.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
That's why he's trying to do this massive money bomb right at the end of the fiscal year.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He's doing it on the 16th and the 17th, so he'll have all the funds by the 30th when he has to figure out what he owes.
jordan holmes
That's brilliant.
dan friesen
This is such bullshit.
jordan holmes
That's brilliant.
I did not even consider that.
dan friesen
Of course that's what's going on.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
He is in trouble.
He doesn't have 20 million unique listeners.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
He has no idea what the idea of actual hits to the website and unique hits are.
He's counting just anybody who randomly goes to one of his sites.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
That counts as a unique person.
jordan holmes
And weekly, there are 20 million different people.
dan friesen
There's not.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
And currently, it was probably about the same or maybe less, he has like 150,000 to 300,000 people that go to his website every day.
And that's not unique.
That's hits to the website.
He also, I mean, his YouTube numbers are incredibly skewed because he's double counting shit.
He's counting his show, various places it's posted.
He's counting little clips that he makes of things from the show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's what he's talking about when he talks about derivatives.
So, like, if someone watches a three-minute clip and then they start watching the show and turn it off, you know, that's two hits for him, one person.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And they go and, like, maybe check out one of the articles.
Oh, there's a third.
It's the same thing that Trump's trying to do with his budget.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
Double and triple counting things.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
His audience is so much smaller than he thinks.
They're not buying his fucking weirdo products at the rate that he needs in order to keep this operation going.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And he's going to be straight horse fucked at the end of this year.
Because he is outgrown.
His ability to sustain himself.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's the same reason I don't quit my job to do this show, because I will be broke as fuck.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I can't do that.
He is living outside his means as a propagandist, and he is screwed.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The timing of it, the fact that it came up immediately.
He teased it one day ahead, and then announced, we're doing this 27-hour live broadcast in order to raise a conspicuously low amount of money.
jordan holmes
Like a...
Like an 80s, we're going to do a dance competition, we're going to do a talent show, we're going to do a car wash.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Otherwise, old Mr. Moneybags is going to shut down the rec center.
dan friesen
A hundred percent, but he knows that he can't frame it that way.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
Otherwise, he completely invalidates all of his...
dan friesen
There's no power behind his organization if he can't pay his bills.
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
Okay, well then...
Well, then does that add in a theory on why he switches over to Trump?
Does he get paid?
dan friesen
We'll get to that.
jordan holmes
Does he get paid, Dan?
dan friesen
We'll get to that.
jordan holmes
Dan, does he get money?
dan friesen
I'm not sure, but we'll get to that.
jordan holmes
He's getting tax money, and that's why he goes, all right.
dan friesen
Well, but this is one of the things that I think we've been remiss in not considering as a motivating factor.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it's the idea of...
Keeping his baby alive.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's broke.
dan friesen
He's essentially broke.
Or not broke, broke.
jordan holmes
He's not liquid.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's in the red.
But at the same time, he has a personal wealth that he could just funnel in.
He's not going to do that.
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
He's not going to do that.
dan friesen
He has a mansion that he has to keep up.
He has multiple cars that are Americana.
jordan holmes
It might even be going the opposite direction.
It might be that he personally can't pay his taxes.
dan friesen
Oh, that's possible, too.
Yeah.
I have no idea.
It could be a combination of all those things, and it's so obvious because of the timing.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
The fact that it's hitting right at the end of the fiscal year and that it's out of nowhere is no coincidence.
Occam's razor tells me it's tax-related.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
That's brilliant!
dan friesen
The other thing that I think is important, like I said, is that a motivating factor for him to flip could be...
growth of his business is screwed without some sort of help.
Yeah.
unidentified
I believe that there is a piece of it that is, you know, like people get people make really bad decisions when it comes to trying to keep something you love alive.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
People go into debt to keep businesses afloat.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You make irrational decisions, strictly speaking.
So I don't see it as necessarily a possible...
Then that he realized InfoWars is done, and then we will be the example of failure against the globalists.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that would be an outcome that he could not handle.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And so you make a deal, and that gets back to why I think that there have been the, I like him, but I don't trust him.
That's why he's teasing Trump like that and not doing that to any other candidate.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Even when some of the candidates are saying fairly similar things.
jordan holmes
Right.
Yeah, we had Marco Rubio saying some dumb shit, too.
dan friesen
I am inclined to believe, and I don't have firm evidence of this, but I'm inclined to believe that maybe he had already been contacted by one of Trump's people, and that's when he stopped talking about the mob ties.
And then since then, there has been an upswing in, hey, maybe I'm open to it, maybe I'm open to it, through his, I don't trust him, but I like what he's saying.
And then this money bomb, I believe, is...
Opportunity.
I believe the reason for the money bomb is motive.
And I think...
I haven't listened to a bunch more episodes after this, but I feel pretty comfortable that the switch is going to come pretty quick.
Whether or not Roger Stone shows up.
I think he may be lurking in the shadows like Batman at this point.
How funny would it be if it switches the second Rappaport shows up?
I was right with my prediction, but it wasn't Roger Stone.
It's all John Rappaport.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, man.
John Rappaport is the only Trump surrogate that Alex Jones trusts.
dan friesen
With his neuro-linguistic programming that he's clearly doing.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
Oh, it's possible.
So that is the only clip that we have from 31st.
We got a couple of clips from September 1st to get through before we wrap this up.
Right.
This next.
jordan holmes
I have a hard time thinking that it doesn't go back through the Mercers.
dan friesen
And that could be where the money's coming from.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It might not be Trump money.
jordan holmes
If the Mercers are just financing Milo, how could they not look at Alex and be like, he's on our team.
dan friesen
100%.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that it is entirely possible that Trump himself is not the source of the money.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
As we've already indicated, and Alex has himself, Trump isn't really as rich as he says he is.
jordan holmes
No, he's broke.
dan friesen
And a lot of Trump's money came from the Mercers.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So there is a decent chance that...
Is the source of everything.
jordan holmes
Can we do a Freedom of Information Act kind of thing where we get those?
dan friesen
I think that some of these investigations that Alex is really worried about in present day might have the authority to figure out some of this stuff.
And maybe we'll get to the bottom.
Maybe the courts will get to the bottom of it.
I accept the possibility that I'm wrong.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
Maybe the money bomb...
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
But it does offer- Or, as you said, the Hillary for prison shirts, they have not appeared yet.
dan friesen
No, that's true.
Well, actually, they do.
They show up pretty quick.
They show up on, like, the second, or first or second of September.
jordan holmes
Right, but those are the big moneymaker, at least from what I understand.
dan friesen
But shirts are a loss leader.
In terms of shipping, he offers free shipping all, like, I don't know if it's active right then, but he does it all the fucking time.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He just ends up doing free shipping deals.
And whenever he has these shirts, they're usually on sale for, like, six bucks.
There's no way that he's making a good amount of money unless they're the cheapest fucking shirts in the world.
jordan holmes
I guarantee they are the cheapest fucking shirts in the world.
dan friesen
Even if he buys them in bulk.
Let's say, conservative estimate, he sold 500,000 of those shirts.
Right?
Maybe?
jordan holmes
Don't ask me.
dan friesen
Does that seem reasonable?
jordan holmes
No clue.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I don't even know if 500,000 people exist in Alex's world at this point.
dan friesen
I don't know either.
But let's say 500,000 Hillary for Prison shirts got sold.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
If you multiply that by, let's say he has a profit margin when you include shipping and handling in it that he's covering for these people.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You have a $6 shirt.
Maybe the shirt itself costs like a buck to ship, two bucks to ship, because shirts can be kind of heavy.
Let's say a buck.
Let's say a buck.
jordan holmes
Now I see a TV show with you as the star called The Accountant Detective.
dan friesen
Well, let's say the shirts cost a buck to make and a buck to ship.
If he gets them in a big enough bulk order, that's reasonable for a shirt designer or whatever.
And it's multicolored.
That's going to come into it.
Let's say it costs two bucks.
He's charging six.
He makes four dollars profit on each shirt.
That would...
The entire shirt operation brings him $2 million.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
In terms of running the operation, in terms of employees, payroll, there's no way that that is a big enough imprint.
Like, even this money bomb saying he needs a million dollars is a lie.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's not...
That's a dumb number.
jordan holmes
He needs $300,000 to pay his taxes.
dan friesen
No, I think he needs more.
jordan holmes
Oh, you think he needs more?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think...
Well, based on how much it would cost...
You've seen his fucking studio.
It's massive.
The rent on that place alone would be crazy.
jordan holmes
He's got to reduce his overhead.
I think that's the point that you're making.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
And the idea that, like, oh, we just need a million, I think that that is the come hither to the donators, to the funders.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I think we're getting a little bit too speculative, but be that as it may, we'll see what happens in the next few days and when this actual money bomb happens two weeks from now in the 2015 timeline.
jordan holmes
If he makes the pivot before the money bomb, that suggests it's money, right?
dan friesen
I think, unfortunately, if he makes the pivot before, during, or right after, any of those could indicate to me...
jordan holmes
If it's in September, it's over.
dan friesen
I think so.
I think so.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But we'll see.
We'll see.
I have said a lot of negative things about Alex Jones in the past.
jordan holmes
Never enough.
dan friesen
He's horrible.
This next clip, the first one we're going to play from September 1st...
I honestly think it's the worst thing he's ever said.
jordan holmes
Damn!
dan friesen
I'm not putting too fine a point on this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think he's a fucking asshole, and this is terrible.
alex jones
And when you go see something like Fast and Furious, the latest one, or any of this, it's just pure propaganda.
jordan holmes
He insulted Fast and Furious.
That's the worst thing he's ever said.
alex jones
Never seen a Fast and Furious, but I like Kurt Russell.
So I went to see it, and it was just terrible.
Total false reality.
Cars driving down five miles of cliffs and not blowing their tires.
Just the most ridiculous, mindless garbage.
A giant recruiting movie for the FBI, Homeland Security, and the CIA.
With this eye of God software where they can track everything in real time with this system.
Just utter comic book garbage.
Gave me such a headache.
That I had to get out of it towards the end.
I just could not watch the full-on assault on reality.
dan friesen
Hey, Alex, why don't you go fuck yourself?
jordan holmes
What are you doing?
dan friesen
Why don't you like fun?
Fast and Furious movies are awesome.
I can't stand it.
Like, and let's take...
I mean, I was, you know, for comedic effect saying that's the worst thing you've ever said.
unidentified
You are being facetious.
dan friesen
But, like, let's really take a closer look at this.
First of all, it's a fiction movie.
So...
You can stop pretending that people are looking at it like a documentary.
But then beyond that, one of the things that's really interesting about Fast and Furious, beyond them kicking ass, those movies are awesome.
The other thing is, it's a movie that uses a really interesting strategy, and that is that it's incredibly multicultural.
All of the characters come from different places.
They had that Tokyo Drift movie that brought in Japanese characters.
There's African-American characters.
There's white characters.
There's Hispanic characters.
There are people from all walks of life represented.
There's women who kick ass.
There's all sorts of empowerment for all of these different types of people.
Beyond that, they're set all over the world, so they have this really positive view of America as well as Barcelona or Brazil.
It's an incredibly uniting movie in so many ways.
And the fact that Alex is so pissed off about it, I think it comes from his inability to deal with the idea that these races are working together.
I think that's part of it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because that's so big a part of why Fast and Furious is so successful is because these people who are like Japanese can see Han as a character and relate to it and see themselves represented as a badass character in this huge Hollywood blockbuster.
It's really great.
It's really great for people.
It's really great as a movie.
I think they're wonderful.
jordan holmes
That is the best defense of the Fast and Furious franchise that I have ever heard.
dan friesen
And things blow up.
jordan holmes
Things do blow up.
dan friesen
Love those movies.
jordan holmes
It sounds like he's angry that it's a comic book movie.
He wants more cinema verite in his Fast and Furious movies?
dan friesen
In one movie, in one of them, they drive a car out of a skyscraper into another skyscraper.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Do you know why?
unidentified
It's awesome.
jordan holmes
Because life is good.
dan friesen
It's awesome.
In one movie, they fucking parachute with cars.
They put cars out of a plane, and then the parachutes, and they land on a hill.
It's awesome!
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, and we know that's possible because of Operation Dumbo Drop.
That's how we know that large things can fly?
dan friesen
100%.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex, fuck yourself.
They're great movies.
Certainly better than Endgame.
jordan holmes
Even better than a scanner darkly.
dan friesen
Maybe not.
I do like Linklater.
No, they're way better than a scanner.
jordan holmes
What are you talking about?
dan friesen
I just like Linklater.
I didn't want to immediately shit on Linklater.
Anyway, Alex Jones is known on the streets as the number one defender of the Second Amendment.
We've seen in every instance he sides with guns.
He says really stupid, bigoted stuff because of his love of guns.
He justifies almost every bad position he has because, Eventually it will lead to them taking my gun away.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So you would think that he has a concealed carry permit because that's legal in Texas.
jordan holmes
You would think.
dan friesen
You would think that.
alex jones
And so I've never gone and got my concealed carry.
I've been too busy.
But you know what?
I'm going to have to take some days off or something and I'm going to have to go over to Cargill and take it because it is expanding, it is getting bad, and it is sad.
I can officially tell you, basically a race war has already been started by the White House in this country.
dan friesen
Great.
Alex, go fuck yourself.
You hate Fast and Furious and you don't have a concealed carry permit.
What the fuck is wrong with you?
He's talked in the past about carrying guns.
In the past he's talked about going to concealed carry rallies and carrying guns.
jordan holmes
Well, that's open carry.
He's got an open carry license.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
He's not going to hide it.
Why would you even get a concealed carry license?
You want to open carry all the way.
dan friesen
You want to basically live in the Deep Space Nine Millimeter video by LP.
You just want everyone with guns to each other's heads.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All day, every day.
dan friesen
Nonsense.
Alex, get your fucking permit.
Live the life you pretend to live.
So in this next clip, Alex Jones, as he is wont to do, as he is known to do, he goes ahead and preemptively blames people.
Who are in underprivileged classes for the impending civil war that's going to come.
jordan holmes
Of course.
It's the poor.
It's the poor.
It's the immigrants.
Those are the people that we should hate.
We should hate the poor and the immigrants.
dan friesen
Who are heavily depicted in the Fast and Furious franchise.
alex jones
You're being crapped all over by the New World Order so you can be scapegoated.
But I'm not going to blame you for having the crap all over you.
I'm going to look at the New World Order that's the one doing it.
The one putting it all over you.
But you've got to learn not to defend the garbage.
You've got to get it out of your midst.
And you've got to realize you are under scientific attack because once you fall and law and order falls during the destabilization, they're going to bring martial law in and they're going to take the guns and they're going to start arresting the patriots and then they're going to have you come after the patriots and the patriots are going to have to fight back.
And that's what's really going to wipe the police out.
You think some mentally ill people shooting a few cops?
jordan holmes
God, the break music right on the race war thing.
alex jones
Is anything compared to when they start a civil war and people have to defend themselves?
Make the decision now, police and military, which I know you're doing, not to serve the globalists, but to defend the republic.
Choose wisely.
jordan holmes
Don't do that.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Don't do that.
dan friesen
I mean, there's not a whole lot left to say about that.
That's very standard.
jordan holmes
Well, he hates the Fast and Furious franchise, and now he doesn't like Law and Order either?
What about SVU?
dan friesen
What about Trial by Jury?
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
That one didn't last long.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
So, I mean...
It's just standard stuff.
It's just like presenting it in such a way that when white people kill black people, it's defense.
It's just protecting yourself.
jordan holmes
It's always defense.
dan friesen
Whereas all these other crazy people, they're going to go out and they're going to cause the patriots to have to kill everybody.
It is a threat.
jordan holmes
That is the type of shit that he's putting out there, is putting out all of this fear.
Towards black people has to influence, like all of the times that you see those cops murdering people, black people in specific, their descriptions are always like, oh, he was 6 '5 and he was a huge guy and I was scared for my life.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And it's like, no.
That is an amplified perception you have from this type of shit.
dan friesen
Yep, absolutely.
jordan holmes
This type of, like, always be afraid.
Always be on alert because they're bigger, they're stronger, they're doing all of these things.
The only way to protect yourself is by firing on them.
dan friesen
Hey, you know what?
Whenever I realized, when I was talking about distrusting strangers earlier, what I really should have said is be prejudiced.
alex jones
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I realize I kind of shit the bed on that in terms of phrasing it correctly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what he really did.
dan friesen
But Alex is really just teaching people to be prejudiced.
I mean, that's the long and short of it.
That's kind of what his operation is largely about.
jordan holmes
He's teaching people how to be even more prejudiced.
How to be aggressive in their prejudice.
Because these people, the people who listen to Alex Jones, weren't coming in cold.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You know, they weren't coming in like, hey, I'm a normal, regular-ass guy.
I just hang out with them.
And then Alex Jones radicalizes them with all of that shit.
They're coming in with preconceived notions, and he amplifies that shit.
And he makes you feel good about it, which is, I think, the biggest issue that I have.
Because he's always fighting against feeling bad about being a horrible bigot.
Because he's always like, don't make me feel like I'm a racist.
Don't make me feel like this.
Instead, he feels good.
He feels good about fighting against them.
And that's what gives his listeners that kind of blanket acceptance.
dan friesen
Well, they feel it vicariously through him.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Now I feel good about my prejudice.
I don't have to hide it.
I don't have to fight against it.
This whole political correctness argument is always about feeling good about your hatred.
dan friesen
Why is it wrong for me to be proud of my whiteness?
Why is that wrong?
It's that same argument.
It's not wrong necessarily to be cool with the fact that you're white.
jordan holmes
I think it is.
Why would you be proud of skin color?
dan friesen
Well, that's why I said be cool about it.
I don't think that celebrating heritage is bad, necessarily.
But when it comes at the expense of recognizing the realities of your life has been great...
Because of the oppression of other people.
Like, if you're unwilling to look at that because you're proud of your, let's say, German or Swedish heritage or whatever, you know, whatever ethnicity, whatever culture you come from, if it comes at the expense of recognizing the reality, then that is bigotry.
jordan holmes
I just disagree.
I disagree with the pride in skin color.
dan friesen
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm sorry.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
The reason that I said that is because some people...
Don't look at it as skin color as much as it is they look at it as my German heritage.
So I like to wear lederhosen and oom-pa-pa music.
jordan holmes
See, but that's culture.
That's something that is created.
dan friesen
But they conflate that.
jordan holmes
It is not something that is skin color.
dan friesen
They conflate it.
jordan holmes
Of course they do, but that's the problem.
dan friesen
And Alex helps them conflate it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, yeah.
He's bringing it up.
Like that argument of the West.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That is...
Not culture, that's skin color.
dan friesen
Essentially.
jordan holmes
That's not celebrating the fact that, you know, you've, for some inexplicable reason, my ancestors were like, let's dance but without the top.
I'm fine with enjoying and celebrating that culture, that historical background.
dan friesen
Go ahead and watch Lawrence Welk and his dancing Swedes.
jordan holmes
But the fact that we evolved with a lot of cloud cover and so our skin is white, it doesn't fucking matter.
I mean, that's pure bullshit that I just said.
But that's the problem.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
The problem is the idea that the only thing...
That you have no control over.
Your skin color.
dan friesen
That's not the only thing, but...
jordan holmes
It's a thing that you very quintessentially don't have control over.
dan friesen
I accept your point.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
The idea of being proud of that is insane to me.
dan friesen
But that's why I phrase it as being cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But anyway, we have more to get through a little bit.
We got a guest appearance now on the show by our main man.
Our most hated liked guy.
Larry Nichols.
jordan holmes
Larry Nix.
Stevie Larry Nix.
dan friesen
Larry Nichols comes back.
Unfortunately, he does not have any more gossip about TV stars that Hillary's fucked.
I was hoping.
jordan holmes
That was good stuff.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, he's switched now, as was the case of the last time he was on.
He's switched to the Obama wants to be king of the Muslims narrative.
I like that one.
I like that one.
There's not a whole lot of Hillary fucking TV stars, which sucks.
But here?
jordan holmes
Is he going to...
Does he have a dead drop again if he's murdered?
dan friesen
I don't fucking know.
He has an address that he gives out.
Here is the Larry Nichols crazy bullshit moment of the day.
This one's crazy.
It's actually two crazy things.
But one of them is super crazy.
larry nichols
Why is it when Obama was elected, we were told, oh, thank God, race is finally over.
And he's done everything in his power and then some to make race.
A hotter issue now than the day the man came in.
And if you don't believe, he is working hard to get these riots activated.
And when the riots get activated, Alex, here's the part people don't understand.
When these black mobs start running wild and shooting wildly into the neighborhood, you know what people are doing in this country?
They'll call up and say, please send the government and stop it, protect us.
We will call for the federal government to come in and protect us.
dan friesen
Funny thing there.
First of all, it's very racist.
But secondly, the other thing is that...
jordan holmes
When the black mobs...
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
Yep, they're the ones who...
Oh, fuck you.
Fuck you, Larry Nichols.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
dan friesen
Larry Nichols, your voice matches your internal perspective about the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But the other thing that I think is really important to point out is that in the first months of his presidency...
Donald Trump did threaten to bring the federal government into Chicago to take care of the violence issue here.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
That's not us calling out for the feds to come in.
That's your guy calling to federalize things.
That's your guy doing the thing that you've been most afraid of for your entire career, Alex Jones.
He doesn't care.
jordan holmes
But it's all of the stuff.
Trump is doing all of the stuff that they were terrified Obama would do.
unidentified
Totally.
jordan holmes
And now they're totally fine with it.
unidentified
They love it.
jordan holmes
It's insane.
dan friesen
It's guns.
jordan holmes
It's guns.
It's just fucking guns.
I want to take your guns away.
For the longest time, I was like, you know what?
Nobody wants to take your guns away.
We just want gun control.
Fuck you.
I want those guns.
I want my entire house filled.
I don't have a house.
I want my entire bedroom filled.
It's very small.
I want my entire bedroom filled with all of the guns.
dan friesen
You have become radicalized.
jordan holmes
I'm done.
I'm done.
No more guns.
I want your guns.
dan friesen
I would like to take...
jordan holmes
Alex Jones, I want to steal your gun.
I want to hide it underneath a fucking deep earth iodine crystal.
And I want you to lose your legs.
I don't know why that's involved, but fuck it.
dan friesen
I would like people's guns to be taken away, but in the sense of, like, turning your weapons into plowshears.
Like, that sort of idea.
But I don't want to individually take away people's guns.
I would just like to live in a world where we were past it.
jordan holmes
I want to do a, like, one of the most successful things has always been gun buybacks.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
You know, like, no questions asked, we'll buy your guns back.
Now, that's not going to work for constitutionalists and those guys.
We're going to have to break into their homes.
They are going to have to quarter many British soldiers because the Constitution doesn't mean anything anymore, so fuck it.
They should have to stay there, and I want to take their guns away.
Fuck this.
I'm done with guns.
dan friesen
I don't fully agree with you, but that's just because I want to move along here because Larry Nichols' other point that he makes is even wilder.
jordan holmes
It's Van Wilder?
dan friesen
It's delicious.
alex jones
Call for the civil emergency.
larry nichols
We will.
We'll be the ones asking for it because, you know what, we'll be scared.
We'll be scared.
Now, to tell you something else, you might as well know, and you're all going to think I'm crazy, but get ready to grease the banana truck because I'm fixing to tell you.
There's a reason Cuba, we normalize relations with Cuba.
Alex, you know, you've talked to enough military people yourself, and you know Obama has gone through and selectively purged the military for anybody that would dare to not take his orders under a crisis condition in this country.
alex jones
They're gearing up.
They're getting everything lined up.
larry nichols
Well, watch this, folks.
You see, Obama and his people, and I'm sure the generals have told them, when it comes to telling American soldiers to crack down on the people of America, they're not going to do it.
They're not going to do it.
It'll end pretty quick.
So what has Obama done?
He's gone to the one military force that I personally ran into in Nicaragua.
jordan holmes
No.
larry nichols
He's got the Cuban military that will be brought in here under the auspices of augmenting our military to help keep us in line.
alex jones
You know, I laugh at that, except I remember it was in the Washington Post after I saw it in restricted documents that were leaked about...
14 years ago, right after 9-11, where they were saying in the Washington Post, we'll have Canadian and Mexican and other Latin American troops in America during a civil emergency.
It predates Obama and the Clintons.
dan friesen
Those are stuff about joint exercises and UN operations.
It's nothing to be afraid of.
jordan holmes
No, they're crossing the Rubicon, my friend.
That's when the Canadians and the Mexicans and Obama and the Cuban army.
The widely known special forces of the Cuban army are going to take us down.
Oh boy.
dan friesen
We outspend every country combined in terms of our army.
And Cuba, not even on the radar.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
In terms of that, that's going to be his force.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the Cuban military.
dan friesen
Larry Nichols is awesome.
jordan holmes
Look, if they can conquer Cuba, half of Cuba, some of Cuba.
Then they can take everybody down.
They've been training to take down America.
dan friesen
I really think that the world needs to have a good long conversation about the fact that so much of the propaganda about the Clintons comes from Larry Nichols.
We really need to understand that because I don't think...
You didn't know his name until we started going through this.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
I don't think most people in the world know who the fuck he is.
They don't know that he is the source of so much of this shit.
And he's the kind of guy who's like...
Obama wants to become the king of Muslims worldwide, and if you're president, when shit goes down, you become king.
Also, Obama has shock troops.
The second line, he only normalized relations with Cuba in order to get their military on his side.
jordan holmes
Bananas.
dan friesen
Which is so crazy.
He's the same person who went on a fucking radio show and said he was a hitman for the Clintons and killed multiple people, and then later said, I was on pills.
Sorry, I didn't mean that.
I wouldn't have said that.
I was on Vicodin.
unidentified
He is a fucking liar and an asshole.
dan friesen
So much of this hatred of Hillary and Bill comes directly from him lying.
And if we could just have a conversation about that and look at all the evidence, we could get rid of so much of this.
I mean, we wouldn't.
It wouldn't work.
But if we could have done it 10 years ago, 15 years ago, it might have helped.
If you legitimately look...
At the situation around all those alleged murders that the Clintons are responsible for, you realize that it's all bullshit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's nonsense.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And if we could have nipped that in the bud way back then, we might have had a chance.
Like the right wing might not have become what it is now.
jordan holmes
Well, I would put a lot of that at the doorstep of Fox News and Roger Ailes.
dan friesen
No, sure, but they were playing into a lot of the stuff that Larry Nichols started.
jordan holmes
Well, exactly.
That's what they were fucking, hey, we like what this guy's doing, let's do it better.
dan friesen
It served their purposes, so they never sought to actually look into, like, oh, this guy's nuts.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
This guy is crazy.
He's talking about Hillary Clinton fucking Markey Post all the time.
jordan holmes
But that's just great.
That's just good stuff.
dan friesen
That's great.
jordan holmes
Hillary Clinton and Bill, they're having orgies.
I'm on board with that.
Fine.
dan friesen
Going to witch meetings with the ladies from Designing Women.
That's right.
jordan holmes
All the witch meetings with Designing Women.
dan friesen
On a smaller scale, I legitimately feel like we just crossed the point where it's too late with Alex.
But one of my...
I look at what happened with Larry Nichols and the Clintons 20 years ago, 25 years ago, and I see where the road could have gone differently and the better world we could be living in.
And I see what's going to happen with Alex.
It's going to be a worse version of that.
Discourse has already descended to Alex Jones' level.
The news is covering Alex Jones' stories.
The president...
Is saying Alex Jones talking points.
jordan holmes
He's emailing out InfoWars links.
dan friesen
It's only going to get worse.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
In the same way that Larry Nichols corrupted discourse politically with his assaults on the Clintons.
jordan holmes
Him and Newt fucking Gingrich.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Alex Jones is going to turn things on its head even worse if people...
Like I said, I think we've already crossed the line where it's impossible to undo the damage.
But goddammit if I'm not going to try and push back.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because the influence is terrible.
jordan holmes
It's omnipresent.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It really is.
dan friesen
It's really, really bad, and I appreciate everyone who listens and gets it.
We have one more clip, and I realize, I want to say this, in terms of self-exploration, you know, really, in the moment as we're doing this show, I'm critiquing myself.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm like, you know that thing you said 15 minutes ago?
Is that bullshit?
Why don't we take a look at that?
jordan holmes
I don't.
I say all of my things and then I immediately forget what I just said.
dan friesen
While we're talking, I'm analyzing.
And I'm looking at myself right now and I'm like, did I make too big a deal out of that money bomb?
I think this is a bit.
It is.
jordan holmes
I think you're setting this up.
I'm starting to think that you're not being serious at all.
dan friesen
There's a kernel of truth in it that I am exploring.
I'm harshly critical all the time.
jordan holmes
Believe me, I know.
I'm right there with you.
dan friesen
I do think that if you didn't know what I know, which is I'm going to play this last clip, you might think I was being a little bit extreme.
But listen to this last clip.
This is a caller.
Who calls in on the September 1st show.
jordan holmes
Fake or real caller, do you think?
dan friesen
Hard to say.
I think probably real, but who knows.
alex jones
Let's go ahead and go to Don in Canada.
You're on the air, Don.
Welcome.
jordan holmes
Canada, Don.
unidentified
Hey, thank you, Alex.
Long-time listener and supporter.
alex jones
Thank you, brother.
jordan holmes
Nailed it.
unidentified
Just wanted to, off-topic here, what you're going through, but I know everybody and yourself are on the fence about this Donald Trump guy running for president here.
I'd like to maybe see if you would approach this fella and see if he might want to support you in your money bond that's coming up here next month.
alex jones
Well, I mean, I'm so hardcore that any mainline politician kind of treats us with kid gloves, which is great.
If the establishment liked us, that would kill the broadcast.
I mean, they always think shunning us hurts us.
No, that's what we expect because we are the real deal.
Trump's actually plugged InfoWars.
And Joe Biggs' report that showed narcotics being shipped in the day he was there in South Texas last month, or I guess it was early August.
It was late July.
And so I'm not on the fence about Trump.
I don't trust him at a gut level, but I like what he's saying, and I see the fact that he may actually want to win, and he makes money off a buoyed economy and off services.
And off real estate so he doesn't want the bubble to burst.
Or he wants to create a new economy.
dan friesen
Right there, Alex contradicted what he said in the past.
In terms of being a front man for a consortium on the East Coast and being mob.
jordan holmes
Service industry.
dan friesen
Mob related.
That's how he makes his money.
Alex has said that in the past.
The fact that he switched his story means something.
So there's that.
Also, this guy calls in, says, why don't you get Trump to give you the money?
Alex is like, he doesn't say no.
Well, he does say we're so hardcore that most mainstream politicians wouldn't get involved with us.
jordan holmes
But then he starts convincing himself.
Trump just referenced a Joe Biggs thing, so maybe I should.
He's interested in prosperity, so maybe that's where I should go.
dan friesen
There's a piece of it that almost comes off as a gut check for Trump, which is like most mainstream politicians wouldn't get involved with us.
You a mainstream politician?
There is almost like a challenge to it.
There's code going on here in terms of like, if you look at it as he's just talking extemporaneously, it's pretty weird.
He's got a weird headspace he's in.
But if you look at it as this is maybe communication between him and a bag man or something like that, or some negotiator, there's subtle indications that he's saying, I'm ready to listen.
jordan holmes
I...
I don't necessarily agree with you in how it seems like you're giving them a lot of credit, or you're giving Alex a lot of credit for being able to build up a narrative as well as communicate in code.
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
There is no narrative to this.
jordan holmes
What are you talking about?
The narrative of him always cocktease in Trump.
dan friesen
That's not a narrative, that's just a position.
jordan holmes
Eh, okay, fine.
dan friesen
That's just, my position is...
I really like what he's saying, but I don't trust him.
jordan holmes
Okay, I suppose the narrative that I'm talking about is you saying that he's...
dan friesen
I like what you're saying, but I'm ready for you to come in.
jordan holmes
Right, I think that's what I'm talking about when I talk about the narrative there, is you're building up this idea that he is capable...
dan friesen
I'm suggesting that.
I'm not saying it's for sure.
jordan holmes
Alright, don't get too defensive.
Don't get too defensive.
I know you're a defensive man.
I apologize.
unidentified
I apologize.
jordan holmes
You've done all of this work.
dan friesen
By the way, I'd like to remind you that the clip isn't done.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Well, then keep playing the clip.
Perhaps my argument is invalidated later on.
alex jones
So I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, while warning with provisos.
But yeah, sure, I ought to reach out to, I mean, listen, the money bomb to raise a million dollars on the 16th, that sounds like a lot to somebody that's, you know, making $50,000 a year, $100,000 a year, for a TV network, TV station.
That's not even a tenth of the money it takes to run something like that.
dan friesen
I want to take a little moment to say that that was weird phrasing on his part.
jordan holmes
Sure, I'll reach out.
dan friesen
No, when he was saying that I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt, but I'm giving a warning with provisos.
You know what a proviso is?
That's a condition of an agreement.
jordan holmes
But I think he's right on there.
dan friesen
What's the agreement?
jordan holmes
The agreement is that Trump has to be real.
Like, he's giving a warning to his listeners.
I'll give you that.
dan friesen
I'll give you that.
But it is an interesting term.
Because it's usually used in contracts and agreements.
So, it could be that, or it could be a little slip.
I'm really trying to build this up.
jordan holmes
I know.
I just think that you're going...
Clip's still not done.
Fine.
alex jones
And we run it very inexpensively.
I mean, Fox News cost...
Hundreds of millions a year to run.
Hundreds of millions.
CNN, hundreds of millions.
We run this operation for, it's well over $10 million a year.
So, that's why I spend so much time selling product, promoting things, you know, trying to do that, because we have to fund ourselves so we can be independent.
But absolutely.
You know, the problem is, if I got money from Trump, then people would claim that...
I was beholden to him, and that I've been bought by Trump.
You know, they already say the Koch brothers have bought me when they own the Democrats and Republicans, and I attack both parties and never gotten a single dime from the Koch brothers.
So, you know, it's really good that we just support ourselves with the products we sell and the services we have, but if there was no strings attached, I'd take $10 million from Trump and put it in this operation and have a big effect.
But, I mean, I'm not going to hold my breath.
I appreciate your call, Don.
dan friesen
That's weird.
jordan holmes
That's not great.
dan friesen
That's not really good.
jordan holmes
I don't think I like that at all.
dan friesen
So do you...
jordan holmes
I think that's probably really bad.
dan friesen
That's real bad.
jordan holmes
I don't think that CNN should take $100 million from Trump.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No strings attached.
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
What kind of $10 million doesn't have strings attached other than the money that we sent to Iraq that is still no longer found?
dan friesen
Sure.
But that's like a...
That's his way of preemptively getting against those accusations that would come if he took money from Trump.
They're like, yeah, you know, if we took the money, people would say that we're bought, so I don't want to take the money.
Flash forward, hypothetically, he does take a bunch of money.
He'd be like, look, we talked about this beforehand.
I wasn't going to do this if it meant that I was beholden to him.
Now, granted, I immediately started being his biggest cheerleader.
unidentified
Crazy.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's a coincidence.
dan friesen
Right.
Right.
Again, I'm not saying that Trump gave him $10 million as he just suggested he would like.
jordan holmes
And I'm not saying that Trump asked Russia to hack our country.
Right.
You know.
dan friesen
I agree.
I think that a very, very good likelihood is Mercer's.
I think that they, especially because he doesn't bring them up.
He talks about the Kochs.
Yeah.
So I think that there's, whoever it is, there's someone giving him money.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this is, I think, I don't know how to say anything because you keep attacking me.
jordan holmes
I'm not attacking you!
God, you're so defensive.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it is because I'm making a weird argument.
jordan holmes
You're not making a weird argument.
dan friesen
I understand.
jordan holmes
You're making a very well thought out argument and there is a lot of, you know, there's a lot of circumstantial evidence.
There's a lot of timing that coincides.
There's all of this stuff.
And it does point, if you are looking for it, At a certain outcome.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And I think you're probably on.
I think you might be right, probably at this point, more so than not.
But I think my quibble is in the idea that Alex Jones can maintain that kind of cocktease as a coded message.
dan friesen
I think in 2015 he was a bit smarter than he is now.
jordan holmes
Well, that's probably true.
dan friesen
He didn't have the intense...
He didn't have the attention, the scrutiny that he has now.
So I think he's a little bit more relaxed.
And I think in that relaxed, also super male vitality to uphead space, I don't think that it's that crazy that he would be able to keep that going.
Because otherwise, why wouldn't he have been convinced?
Trump keeps saying everything that he wants him to say.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
In terms of being bigoted, in terms of being just a cocky dickhole, in terms of being against what Alex Jones perceives as the establishment globalists, why wouldn't he have changed his mind?
He clearly has gotten pissed off at Rand Paul throughout.
Rand Paul isn't doing it for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but then you've got the other argument of why would you change your mind?
Trump, at that point in time, was a fucking joke.
dan friesen
But he's never been a joke to Alex.
Throughout the entire time, the things that people had made jokes about, Alex is still being like, well, you look at it, there's truth behind this thing.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And look, here's the other part that we have to take into consideration.
Donald Trump's campaign largely worked off of propaganda and gossip.
There was a major...
Whoever was running his campaign at any given time seemed to be very interested in rumor-mongering and propaganda.
To think that they wouldn't have actively tried to court Alex Jones in some way is crazy.
jordan holmes
So you think it's possible that they came to Alex...
Prior to this.
Like, they came to Alex at the moment where he stopped talking about the mob connections.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
They came to Alex.
dan friesen
I think that that's probable.
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
Because before that, he had such a different tone.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's true.
The only negative things he says is...
He has a checkered past.
I don't know if I could...
On a gut level, I don't trust him.
Those are vague.
He was talking much more specifically about how if your name is Genovese, you get arrested.
If it's Trump, you don't.
He's not rich.
He's a front man.
Before that day when he made that pivot, he was talking about having high-level information from people.
He was using his...
jordan holmes
It was actually Donald Trump Jr. who told him...
dan friesen
That wasn't his source.
jordan holmes
Dude, we have been...
dan friesen
That wasn't his source back then.
jordan holmes
We have been laundering so much Russian money!
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't think necessarily it was someone from Trump's campaign directly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But possibly some intermediary.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Some cutout, as Roger Stone has clearly indicated, as we've talked about on the show, is what he would do if he was running a campaign.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right.
dan friesen
So I think that that's possible.
And I don't...
I don't know if it was a situation where they were like, we'll give you a ton of money to promote Trump or something like that.
I think that there's probably some bit of an influence.
jordan holmes
Support situation.
You need a favor.
We need a favor.
dan friesen
Well, and they can sell it because Alex is so jumpy on guns and immigrants and abortion.
They can be like, this is your guy.
Yeah.
unidentified
In terms of all they can they can use his vague suggested positions Trump's to feed into Alex's need for a savior and that Ron Paul or Rand Paul isn't it.
dan friesen
I think there's negative ego motivations that are there.
There's certainly that.
jordan holmes
You got the pettiness, you got the brokenness.
dan friesen
I think it's not all that crazy to suggest that that...
That turning point of I'm not going to say these negative things about Trump anymore was precipitated by something.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And, I mean, sure.
It's possible that one of his employees in legal was just like, you could get sued for this.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or something like that.
That's possible.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
That is one possible thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can't...
That would technically be slander, right?
dan friesen
He was vague enough that that wouldn't hold, I don't think, in court.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But, yeah, I think that when you combine a surprise money bomb, That you announce a day after conceiving it, with the timing of the end of the fiscal year, you now have opportunity.
You have a need on Alex's part that can be satisfied by some really rich donor.
jordan holmes
Now, here is the other conspiracy theory you could go from there.
The money bomb is cover.
dan friesen
That's what I was thinking, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
The money bomb is like, hey, we reached and exceeded our goal for the money bomb, which suggests that the listeners did everything, but maybe he got a lot of that money from an intermediary or the Mercers or whomever.
dan friesen
Yep.
I think that's what I'm talking about in terms of the motive of Alex's need at the end of the fiscal year is there.
The opportunity of the cover of the money bomb is there in terms of cloaking things.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because then his narrative doesn't have to change with his listeners.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then he's already laid the groundwork with, I don't know if I can trust him, but I like all the things he's saying.
jordan holmes
And he's had plenty of callers saying, you should support Trump.
We're support Trump people.
dan friesen
Yep.
And all he has to do then is say, Wait for Trump to make any new announcement and be like, guys, this is enough.
jordan holmes
It's time to jump on.
dan friesen
This is our chance.
Rand Paul is great, but he's just not doing it.
He's not hardcore enough.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's not going to get it there for the patriots.
It's there.
Everything is in place at this point.
jordan holmes
You're right.
dan friesen
And I had no idea that this money bomb happened.
Whenever we were starting this investigation.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I had no idea.
And once that little piece came into play, I was like, this is...
jordan holmes
That does seem like it comes into relief.
dan friesen
It feels like...
We've made too many predictions on this investigation, but it feels like this is it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
We'll see.
jordan holmes
Man, now it's like, goddammit, I want you to fast forward to those episodes.
dan friesen
Yeah, I know.
jordan holmes
Skip the middle of the investigation and let's just jump in there.
dan friesen
Maybe we'll have to do a second investigation this week.
I mean, we'll try and force it.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
But anyway, if you'd like to check us out, we have a website, knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you can follow us on Twitter.
It's at knowledge underscore fight.
We've been getting more followers.
dan friesen
Love it.
jordan holmes
We've been getting more listeners.
Thank you.
You guys have really grown the show.
You can find us on iTunes.
dan friesen
We'll be doing a money bomb in a few months.
We won't.
Nope.
If you'd like to donate to the show, though, you can at knowledgefight.com.
There's a button that says support the show.
We would appreciate it.
You can become a policy wonk.
It'd be great.
Also, we're on Facebook.
jordan holmes
What else do we got?
I don't know.
Usually we end with a bit, but it hasn't been going well.
dan friesen
It has not.
You keep fucking it up.
jordan holmes
I don't keep fucking it up.
dan friesen
This is on you, man.
jordan holmes
How is this my fault?
dan friesen
This is all you.
jordan holmes
All right.
Fuck you, Dan.
dan friesen
Hey, no.
jordan holmes
And then we end the show.
That was the bit right there.
No, no, no.
dan friesen
How dare you say such a thing about me?
You and I aren't enemies.
We have a shared enemy.
jordan holmes
That's right.
We do have a shared enemy.
dan friesen
It's a young, not young man by the name of John Rappaport who can go fuck himself.
jordan holmes
Listen up, John Rappaport.
Go fuck yourself.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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