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July 6, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#61: July 5, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on the July 7th episode of The Alex Jones Show. Topics covered include: Does Alex clearly lie about having read Plato? Did CNN blackmail a Reddit user who made a meme about Trump? How poorly is the "CNN Is Isis" contest going? Does Assad have a secret deal with our military?

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
20:22
d
dan friesen
01:02:55
j
jordan holmes
35:20
Appearances
l
lee ann mcadoo
01:05
Callers
andy in kansas
00:00
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple of dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones, but I forgot the novelty beverages.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you son of a bitch.
dan friesen
I'm sorry.
I was running late.
I had a tough time.
unidentified
The schedule of getting off work, getting over here.
jordan holmes
Now I immediately apologize for everything.
dan friesen
I've got a cut in my face.
jordan holmes
Jesus, dude.
I get it.
There's a lot going on in your life.
This is, relatively speaking, a minuscule thing.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
And if you treat our listeners with the same disdain that you treat our novelty beverages, then that's fine.
dan friesen
That's fine.
God.
If only I could treat our listeners novelty beverages.
All of that, with the same disdain I treat myself with, will all be miserable.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's a good point.
dan friesen
I'd like to thank everybody who said nice things on Twitter.
I had that little surgery beginning of this week.
Everything is good.
I've got a cool, badass scar on my face now.
jordan holmes
You look great.
dan friesen
Thank you.
jordan holmes
Chicks dig scars, according to the movie The Replacements.
dan friesen
Yep, but they'll never know, because my beard will grow back, and who cares?
So it was a very weird time at the doctor's office, and we won't go into any of it.
That's irrelevant to the podcast.
unidentified
True.
dan friesen
Something that's not irrelevant to the podcast, though, is us.
jordan holmes
Are we sure it's irrelevant to the podcast?
dan friesen
I know that the theme of the podcast is that I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Doesn't sound like my doctor's visit is irrelevant.
jordan holmes
You should have asked the doctors.
Why didn't you make it?
Why didn't you make it known that you were like, hey, I'm here.
unidentified
Dr. Crazy Long Indian name, do you know anything about Alex Jones?
jordan holmes
I bet he didn't before, but now he's probably all too aware.
dan friesen
Guy was the shit.
He was real cool.
Great bedside manner.
I felt very comfortable with him cutting my face open.
jordan holmes
That's tough to find.
That's true love.
dan friesen
And it's crazy, too.
I have painkillers, but I don't need them.
They're not very strong.
Don't ask me for them.
jordan holmes
Patreon subscribers only.
unidentified
We'll get Dan's leftover painkillers.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's great.
I don't know what it is.
I had wisdom teeth taken out.
I've had root canals.
And now I've had invasive surgery on my jaw.
And afterwards, no real pain to speak of.
jordan holmes
It's crazy.
dan friesen
I'm a superman.
jordan holmes
You have a very specific mutant power.
dan friesen
It could be.
jordan holmes
Face...
dan friesen
Head-related.
jordan holmes
Pain-tolerance?
Yeah, I don't know.
dan friesen
I'm okay with that.
I'll take it.
Something else I'm okay with and I'll take is our new donator.
I'd like to welcome into the fold.
What's up, Ryan?
Thanks for joining.
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you for joining the team.
jordan holmes
Ryan, thank you very much for becoming a policy wonk.
dan friesen
We appreciate it very much.
And if you would like to become a policy wonk, you may by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, and clicking support the show.
There you can give whatever you'd like to support the show.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Or you can just Google Patreon and hope for the best.
dan friesen
Yeah, roll the phone.
jordan holmes
Maybe we'll show up.
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But we do have an image.
Unlike on iTunes.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'd also like to thank everybody who said such nice things about our last episode where we took a trip into space.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We left Space Command far behind and went still further into the wild blue yonder.
dan friesen
Time and space, we explored it all, and we'll do some more of those.
Since people really enjoyed them, we'll dip back into the Project Camelot trench.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you, I have fallen in love with Carrie Callahan, and she will be my new wife.
dan friesen
I don't think you'd be happy with that.
jordan holmes
That's not important.
dan friesen
I'm not saying she's ugly or anything like that.
I just mean, I don't think you two are compatible.
jordan holmes
I understand your trepidation, but let me tell you something.
A woman who believes everything is my kind of woman.
dan friesen
Very easy to cheat on.
I would assume.
jordan holmes
That is not where I was going with that.
dan friesen
No, that's where my mind went.
Not like in terms of utility for me, but that's a character trait I'm seeing.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, I'd like to start off the show today with an out-of-context drop from Alex Jones.
alex jones
I do not want to be in memes.
I do not want to be in these comedy memes.
Do not put me in memes.
Everyone is bad for putting me in a meme.
And I do not want to have my head put on Trump's head battling CNN.
No one is allowed to put me in memes because, quite frankly, Trump is the number one meme right now.
I'm only number two.
Okay?
And I'm competitive.
Make fun of me.
Whatever.
Please put me in memes.
Oh, excuse me.
I mean, never, never you are hereby ordered.
Like CNN said, we'll have you arrested.
I'll sue you.
You have no free speech.
Put me in no memes and have no Infowars.com involved in it ever.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
I love the, I just, I love that.
I love that.
That ah that went too long is great.
He mistimed the break a little bit.
jordan holmes
He got his...
Even his sarcasm he got wrong.
Please put me in memes.
I mean, don't put me in memes.
dan friesen
He's a master.
He's a master of communication and I appreciate it very much.
jordan holmes
I do hear a little bit of sadness in his voice.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
Because he does...
He has mentioned in the past that he is the number one meme machine.
dan friesen
He's the meme machine.
No, no.
jordan holmes
He's the meme machine.
dan friesen
He's the king of memes.
That's what they call him on the streets.
jordan holmes
Now he's number two and CNN is in...
No, no, no.
dan friesen
CNN is ISIS.
As we all know.
Yes.
Contest still going on.
We're going to get an update on it in a little bit.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, good.
dan friesen
Today what we're going to be doing is going over the July 5th, 2017 episode.
That's Wednesday if you're nasty.
You'd think that maybe there'd be a lot of stuff about the 4th of July.
Maybe him telling a story about a barbecue.
Maybe he and his family got to hang out and shoot off bottle rockets.
jordan holmes
You'd be wrong.
I'm going to tell you something.
I did not think any of those things.
dan friesen
You might think...
jordan holmes
Here's what I thought.
dan friesen
You might think he even would talk about, like, the founding of our country.
jordan holmes
No, definitely not.
He doesn't know shit about the founding of our country.
dan friesen
He knows some weird alternative versions of it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's definitely true.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, obviously it was a psyop.
dan friesen
Would you like to know how he starts the show?
jordan holmes
Uh, yeah.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Do I have a choice?
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen.
Let me just start with this piece of news.
We had Leo Zagami on, Vatican expert who lives in Rome, on Monday, talking about and breaking gay cocaine orgies at the Inquisition's headquarters.
Now, he broke that last week.
He was on Monday.
I was checking it because I wanted to check what he was saying.
Couldn't find anything on it.
Here's the Daily Mail today.
Vatican police break up gay orgy at home of Secretary of the Pope Francis' key advisors.
Exactly what Zagami said.
dan friesen
Ah, great.
This is the narrative we're going to start with?
Great.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
Love it.
jordan holmes
Also, is the Inquisition still a thing?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
But these people who are very anti-Pope and anti-Catholic...
They believe that it lives on through other names and other entities.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So there's still wings of the Inquisition going on in the Vatican.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, I mean, it doesn't get any more...
Nobody suspects the Spanish Inquisition when it doesn't exist anymore.
dan friesen
I have time for two more questions.
I can field two more questions for you about that clip.
jordan holmes
All right.
Let's see.
Now I've got to make it good.
I like this.
Now I'm under the gun.
dan friesen
Choose wisely.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Maybe that's the new game.
I play a clip and you ask me three questions about it.
jordan holmes
That is a terrible game.
dan friesen
Three questions and a riddle.
Let's not do that.
jordan holmes
No, let's definitely not do that.
Why?
Okay.
Daily Mail?
dan friesen
Daily Mail, my friend.
jordan holmes
Daily Mail.
Did they actually...
I saw a thing where they broke in somewhere and found pills.
dan friesen
Not...
It's not substantiated.
jordan holmes
In a Vatican apartment or something like that.
dan friesen
But that's not what this story is.
This is a cocaine orgy that got broken up.
jordan holmes
Right.
That got broken up?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
By who?
dan friesen
By the authorities, I suppose.
jordan holmes
I was kind of hoping it was some random dude who showed up and they're like, fucking come on, man.
We gotta get out of here.
dan friesen
Vatican cocaine orgy broken up by Chet.
jordan holmes
By...
Total bummer.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's like buzzkill asshole.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There's your headline.
dan friesen
This story does appear in the Daily Mail, and it appears all over the...
I mean, Daily Mail is shit.
jordan holmes
Owned by a what's-his-fuck who is ruining everything over here as well.
dan friesen
It's mostly celebrity gossip and tit stories.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's Roger Ailes, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, basically.
jordan holmes
That fucking pile of garbage.
dan friesen
I don't know if he still runs it, but it's historically his baby.
So a bunch of other right-wing organizations are reporting this as well, and all of it traces back to an Italian tabloid called Il Fatto Quattidano.
All right.
Quattodiano.
jordan holmes
I'm a big fan of the name, regardless of what happens from here on out.
dan friesen
I'm guessing it means the fat quote.
unidentified
Oh!
dan friesen
I don't know.
The fat quotient?
jordan holmes
Cool!
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know Italian, but I do know that this is a salacious tabloid magazine that is not a legitimate source.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And even within it, it doesn't give any concrete reporting.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
The actual article that it's based on is basically hearsay and rumor.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But because it's in Italian, they don't know one's gonna read it.
So they just use it as a source, and all of a sudden, hey.
jordan holmes
That's legitimized.
They have a source.
dan friesen
This is legitimately happening.
jordan holmes
It's even from Italia.
So it's basically the magazines you walk by in a shop where it's like, is Britney murdering children?
Like that kind of thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, totally.
And then beyond that, I know what's going to happen already.
Because there's nothing here.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, because you've already listened to the episode.
dan friesen
No, I mean in the future.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, okay.
dan friesen
There's nothing here to this story, and Alex is reporting on it as if it is...
You know, hard truth.
jordan holmes
Breaking news.
dan friesen
He's going to ignore that it goes nowhere and there's nothing behind it, but he's going to use it as a waypoint in the future.
He's like, you remember when they broke up that gay cocaine orgy at the Vatican?
Those people are crazy.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, that's a good one.
dan friesen
He's just going to use it as an example of something in the future.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Because there's nothing there.
jordan holmes
Anytime the Pope says something that he disagrees with, he's going to be like, look at this guy having cocaine-fueled orgies.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Now, at the same time, I mean, let's not be remiss.
Vatican has done a lot of really fucked up stuff in the past.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you look at the Borgias, you got some good stuff there.
dan friesen
But even more currently, they have a very active role in covering up pedophilia by priests and shit like that.
jordan holmes
And they had a Nazi pope for a good long while.
dan friesen
Indeed.
So we have no business defending the Vatican or the Catholic organized church.
jordan holmes
No, I'm sure they do have some good orgies from time to time.
dan friesen
I would assume so.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, you can't take a vow of chastity without, you know...
jordan holmes
Without getting a good orgy in there.
dan friesen
On the side.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And not only that, but any time you get a bunch of rich, old dudes, somebody's gonna get fucked.
dan friesen
So, Leo Zagami is a new name to our listeners.
jordan holmes
Never heard that one before.
dan friesen
A few things you need to know about Leo Zagami, who's the guy who got interviewed on Infowars on Monday about this very story.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's probably behind the story in the Italian gossip magazine.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
Also, He has been a guest on Project Camelot.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
Excellent.
dan friesen
But do you know why?
It has nothing to do with space.
jordan holmes
Because he's cheating?
Because Carrie is cheating on me with him?
dan friesen
It could be.
No, he claims to be a former member of the actual Illuminati.
jordan holmes
Fucking yes!
Fuck yes!
dan friesen
Alex really undersold his credits.
jordan holmes
Tell me more.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Saying a Vatican expert?
jordan holmes
I don't think he wants to get a literal member of the Illuminati in there.
That's too easy to debunk.
dan friesen
Leo Zagami, an ex-member of the Masonic Executive Committee of Monte Carlo, was, until recently, a high-level member of the Italian Illuminati.
He's a 33rd degree Freemason and a senior member of the infamous P2 Lodge.
He was prince, prepared to take over after the older Illuminati king, Lisio Gieli.
He was born of a Scottish Sicilian Illuminati aristocratic bloodline, and so has been involved in the Illuminati order since childhood.
Yes.
unidentified
Disgusted by satanic black magic rituals, and with the true intentions of those who regard themselves as the elite controllers of the planet, he has now made the commitment to tell the real story to those who seek the truth, who seek to rule us without the truth I love whenever an organization...
dan friesen
That's Dr. Group all over again.
jordan holmes
...a shadowy organization that is...
Non-existent.
You can just claim fucking anything about it.
unidentified
Of course.
jordan holmes
Like the Illuminati King?
Who has ever heard of the Illuminati King?
dan friesen
Well, you're not on the insides.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
You don't know?
jordan holmes
No, I got no clue!
dan friesen
I mean, it's the same magic that Alex pulls with the globalists.
jordan holmes
What about the Illuminati one-eyed Jack?
Is that still wild?
dan friesen
He's gone rogue.
unidentified
He's still in play, but he is rogue.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So this narrative takes up a bit of the show, and it's utter bullshit.
And it's coming to Alex from a very disreputable source and another disreputable source, one a human, one a gossip magazine.
jordan holmes
Right.
Perhaps one and the same.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But Alex is in the middle of this narrative that's been going on for the last week or so about one of the higher-ups in the Australian Catholic Church just got popped for molesting children.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And sure, that is awful.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And I'm sure he's done it before and they just moved him the fuck around because they're an evil organization when you get down to it.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
But Alex likes to play this game where he's like, it's like, it's all about this.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's all systematic, organized pedophilia and this guy was just a procurer.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that sort of thing.
So he's in the middle of that narrative.
So this shit pops up and he's just using it to add kindling to the fire of anti-Vatican sentiment.
jordan holmes
It's gold.
dan friesen
It's great, but it's bullshit.
This is bullshit.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
The talking about an actual pedophile priest, now that's...
jordan holmes
Which is so fucking frustrating to me, how he claims everybody is a pedophile, and not once does he really get into the pedophiles.
dan friesen
He does a little bit.
It's just, I find it somewhat boring to agree with him, and that's why I'm expressing it.
In this way.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
He does talk about...
His conclusions about the idea that everything is systematic pedophilia and blackmail related to pedophilia, it diminishes from the reality of the situation, so I don't want to play it like that.
I don't want to play his statements like that.
But the fact that he is talking about these priests, good on him.
I agree with that much of it.
Or that much of his presentation.
jordan holmes
I wish it was more of a...
I mean, even after all of the great reporting and all of the shit that we've done, it's not like anybody's taken down the Catholic Church.
dan friesen
No, that seems very difficult.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know why?
Because it's infiltrated with 33rd degree Scottish Italian judo masons.
jordan holmes
Yeah, does he...
unidentified
Judo masons?
jordan holmes
Well, he's a 33rd degree Illuminati and black belt.
dan friesen
That is totally where my mind got off track.
Of course.
jordan holmes
Where else would it go?
dan friesen
Yeah.
So that's not the only narrative that Alex is spinning on this Wednesday show.
jordan holmes
What do you get for being 33?
dan friesen
I'm 33 right now.
I got face surgery.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but...
dan friesen
Jesus got crucified.
jordan holmes
You get free face surgery if you're in the Illuminati.
dan friesen
I think I might have gotten it free.
Thanks, Obamacare!
They didn't charge me anything.
I don't know if they're going to bill me.
unidentified
Eh?
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
I shouldn't be talking about that.
Anyway.
Let's get to this next clip.
This is Alex complaining about how Tom Brokaw talked shit about him the other day.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
About a week and a half ago or so, Tom Brokaw was on TV.
And this is Alex complaining about it.
And also, pay attention to the way that his grievance has something to do with anti-intellectualism and classism that I think is really interesting.
And we'll discuss it on the other side.
alex jones
I mean, when they get Tom Brokaw...
To go on MSNBC and NBC out of retirement, called in, he admitted, to stand against the great evil.
The great evil.
He said we must have courage against the great evil of fake news and Alex Jones.
That's Twilight Zone.
And to add a little poison cherry, another little dropping, He left, a little rat, and all his fake, condescending, judgmental, spaced-out verbiage.
He said, I'm a complete and total racist.
He used a fancy $10 word, unalloyed.
And the reason I mention that is he's back on the trail.
With editorials and interviews saying, call out fake journalist like Alex Jones.
Please, Tom, continue to call me out, you delusional, warmongering, race-baiting, globalist fossil.
And I don't mean that disrespectful to our elders.
dan friesen
Good save.
jordan holmes
I don't know how that works.
alex jones
Of thinking.
I mean, that's all they've got is to say things about me that I never said.
Little newsflash.
They're calling somebody deeply racist and they don't show you a quote or a clip.
You know the person doing that is a race baiter that's even worse than being a racist in my view.
dan friesen
Race pimp.
alex jones
Because they consciously know it's a bunch of bull.
They're using it to control people.
It's amazing.
But the media has taught people that's powerful.
No, it's empty.
The old days, you call somebody a racist with evidence 30, 40 years ago, it would do something.
jordan holmes
No, it wouldn't.
alex jones
It was like shooting somebody with.357 Magnum.
Now it's like throwing a water balloon at somebody.
jordan holmes
That's probably true.
alex jones
It doesn't do anything.
dan friesen
Yeah, but the problem is that it doesn't do anything because of all those years of it not doing anything.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's a lot of inertia behind it not having any real effect on the world.
dan friesen
The thing that Alex is most mad about is the use of the word unalloyed.
He complains about it all the time.
jordan holmes
I don't disagree with him there.
dan friesen
But it's that anti-intellectualism that's really bothering to me.
Look at this fucking guy with his word.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, I would always go back to Salinger saying that the only reason that you would use a word like that is if you need to be very, very specific.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And if you can, use ten words as opposed to that one big one.
dan friesen
I don't disagree with you in principle, but he was live on air and he said unalloyed and we gotta deal with it.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't think it's worth him complaining for like two weeks about it.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Now, the other thing that I want to bring up is, Alex, you are a racist.
And we have proof.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if you would like clips of you being a racist, I think we got knowledgefight.com slash racism.
Actually, Alex, go to knowledgefight.com, support the show.
dan friesen
Yeah, please.
jordan holmes
Become a policy watch.
dan friesen
We need some of that pill money.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Even if they don't work.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Knowledgefight.com slash racism.
I have started compiling just incidents of him being racist.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because he complains all the time that no one has proof.
We got the proof.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we got plenty of proof on you.
dan friesen
Plenty of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that's kind of busted.
jordan holmes
If you are a media outlet, feel free to use us as a source for calling Alex Jones a racist.
dan friesen
Yeah, we're available for interviews.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Are we?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I think we are.
dan friesen
I'm free.
So the other thing, too, is I just hate this mentality of like...
Racism is just a word that people use to try and gain power over you.
jordan holmes
That's the weird one.
I don't understand that.
dan friesen
Well, it's weird because it's just...
I mean, it's the last bastion of a racist.
Hiding behind, like, oh, you're just calling me that to try and take power away from my words.
But Alex's version of it is always, like, you're calling me this without proof.
The flip side of it is...
You call people demons without proof.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
You call people witches.
Almost every woman he's ever talked about, he's called a witch.
jordan holmes
Pedophiles.
dan friesen
Pedophiles.
jordan holmes
Lesbians are...
dan friesen
Draculas.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
All these things.
If you really want to play that game, Alex, you need more proof.
You need more proof, baby!
jordan holmes
Yeah, but the problem with that is his claims are so outlandish as to invite...
You know, indifference as opposed to somebody saying, like, oh, show me proof that I'm a witch.
If you even ask, if you ask Alex Jones to show you proof that you're a witch, you look like the crazy person.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I think, to a large degree, that's what's protected him from being sued over the years.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There is just that, like, what are we doing?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Why get in the mud?
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Fuck him.
And that's why we're at the point we're at, quite frankly.
I hope he slanders us at some point.
jordan holmes
Oh, that'd be fun.
dan friesen
I'll sue the shit out of him.
jordan holmes
Nah, I can't afford a lawsuit right now.
dan friesen
I'll call fucking a pro bono guy.
Get one of these comics.
jordan holmes
I'll call a pro bono guy.
dan friesen
Get one of these comics who's a lawyer.
We got a couple of comic lawyers.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's true.
dan friesen
Yeah, get one of them to defend us.
jordan holmes
Yeah, have them do a type 5 before they start.
dan friesen
In front of the jury.
jordan holmes
We wouldn't be defended.
We'd be the prosecutors.
dan friesen
I guess we would, yeah.
jordan holmes
We would be the aggrieved party.
dan friesen
Oh, we would be aggrieved.
jordan holmes
Yeah, definitely.
dan friesen
So aggrieved.
jordan holmes
But that, like, taking power away from somebody by calling them a racist seems like an insane jump of logic there.
dan friesen
Why?
jordan holmes
Because I can't imagine a situation where...
It would actually take power away from somebody.
dan friesen
Let's play it out.
You call me racist after I say something that Alex Jones has said in the past.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I've never really seen white people being racist.
Black people, on the other hand, are very racist.
jordan holmes
Dan, that sounds pretty racist.
dan friesen
Why are you calling me racist?
Trying to take away the invalidity of my speech?
My free speech?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, I'm calling you racist.
dan friesen
You call me a racist and then there's just a label on me and then everything I say is racist?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, kinda, yeah.
dan friesen
Right.
I don't have the energy.
jordan holmes
End scene.
dan friesen
I don't have the energy to keep it up because I agree.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I think that's what Alex would think.
jordan holmes
If you generalize people by race, it seems to follow that you would then be a racist.
Now, I think the connotation that he's going for is the, like, you're offensively racist in that you are...
You know, you're part of the problem that continues oppressing people.
dan friesen
I think he just thinks it's saying the N-word.
I think that's all he thinks he has to do.
jordan holmes
I think actually that's...
dan friesen
Is not say the N-word and he's cool.
jordan holmes
I think that's most racists.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Probably.
Anyway, these fake allegations of racism that are being thrown around like water balloons...
jordan holmes
Willy nilly with no proof.
dan friesen
You might think that there's no consequences to them, but Alex Jones thinks that they are, quote...
A sign of the downfall of Christendom.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And we really see, before I get all this news, the failure of Christendom here.
It was Christianity and it was Western Europe that banned slavery worldwide, except for in Islamic countries and some areas of Africa, curtailed about 95%.
It was Christianity that first looked at itself and said, what we're doing is wrong.
dan friesen
Yikes.
alex jones
And so they've used the globalists, the leftists, the social engineers, they've used our instincts to be open and loving and have a good society against us.
You know, you can look at areas of Latin America, you can look at areas of Asia, you can look at areas of Africa, it doesn't matter.
And they can look at tribal lines where the tribes are genetically basically identical in areas of Africa.
The sociologists, the anthropologists have done this, but they're Christian.
They're super prosperous, have industry, have technology, have medicine, and then you'll have Muslims right across the river, or animists, rock worshippers, plant worshippers, and they will always be in total barbarism.
Christianity, for all its faults in actual deployment, the idea of New Testament Christianity creates civilization.
dan friesen
Yikes.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
I like his modifier of New Testament Christianity, considering the fact that it was the Old Testament that was used to justify slavery.
dan friesen
And so much of Alex Jones' mentality comes from the demiurge, perhaps, of the Old Testament.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would say a lot of New Testament Christianity is...
A helpful thing.
I would also say that...
dan friesen
Not a lot of those letters, though.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, no.
dan friesen
If we're talking about just the...
jordan holmes
I'm going by Gospels, and even then I'm going by...
dan friesen
The synoptic Gospels.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm going by very, very small parts of those Gospels still.
dan friesen
And let's cut out Revelation, too, while we're at it, because that's wild.
jordan holmes
No, that shit's great.
That's fanfic, man.
That's some good shit.
dan friesen
That's a John of Patmos fever dream.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's nonsense.
I disagree wholeheartedly that New Testament Christianity is the font of civilization.
unidentified
I do.
jordan holmes
I do, too.
dan friesen
That's not racist, per se, but it's...
jordan holmes
I think it is.
dan friesen
It's prejudice.
jordan holmes
I think it comes from a very racist...
Because anytime you're saying Christendom...
Christendom.
dan friesen
And West.
jordan holmes
You are...
dan friesen
The West.
jordan holmes
Who fucking spread Christendom?
Who subjugated people using Christendom?
dan friesen
Probably nationalists.
People who love free market.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Second Amendment people.
If you recall, the Spanish Inquisition was all about the Second Amendment.
dan friesen
And prosperity.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they just wanted them Jews out.
dan friesen
I think that you all...
I mean, not you, but I think Alex is missing a very important piece of it, too.
That is, if you take these two tribes...
And one of them is Christian and one of them is an animist, let's say.
Right.
Generally speaking, the one who's Christian will have had an oppressive, violent interaction with white people who have forced them to become Christian.
And maybe that informs their building of civilization that mirrors the West.
jordan holmes
Generally speaking.
dan friesen
And possibly there are a bunch of tribal civilizations that are Muslim, that are animist, that are...
Tree worshippers, as Alex might say, that have beautiful civilizations that you're just not willing to recognize as civilizations because you're caught up in your...
Prosperity of the West bullshit.
jordan holmes
I mean, just go back to fucking Shinto and Buddhism.
All of those areas sure seem to do alright for themselves without the whole Jesus bullshit.
dan friesen
Not civilization.
jordan holmes
Oh, I didn't realize that.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Are we just talking about Jesus equals civilization and that's it?
That's a one-to-one.
dan friesen
He basically just said that.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
I mean, I guess that's not fair.
I want to be totally...
jordan holmes
Isn't it?
dan friesen
I want to be totally fair to us because he is saying...
That the New Testament Christianity is what leads to civilization.
But in perfect fairness to the literal words he said, he didn't say that there's no other way to it.
He was just saying that Muslims ain't doing it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there we go.
dan friesen
Which is maybe...
jordan holmes
Which is insane!
dan friesen
He never said that Buddhists can't.
jordan holmes
If it weren't for Muslims, we would have...
Fuck all.
dan friesen
And Alex would have not much of a show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, that's a good point.
dan friesen
He owes a lot of his money to Muslim baiting viewers.
So he's thrilled that they exist.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he should be very grateful for Muslims.
dan friesen
I'd love for him to do it.
jordan holmes
In the same way that Jesus should be very grateful for Judas, because without Judas, fucking he's got no story.
dan friesen
They were in on it together.
jordan holmes
We all know that.
dan friesen
So here is Alex also expressing some beliefs, some feelings that make me Pretty comfortable saying that he has some real serious problems with racism.
alex jones
Christians forced the end of slavery.
Christians forced the end of segregation.
Christians actually did have the, quote, white man's burden.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
It's arrogant and bad and everything because the industrialists and globalists did not want that.
alex jones
They did not want to treat people equally.
So they came in, took over that movement, hypered it up into political correctness as political control to turn everybody into their own racial ghettos and groups.
I never heard it, saw it.
jordan holmes
You grew up in fucking Texas.
alex jones
By all sides.
Again, this is the victory of social engineering.
dan friesen
That's all it is, man.
It's the victory of social engineering.
jordan holmes
So wait, is he saying that now racism is everywhere?
dan friesen
And back in the 60s in Dallas.
jordan holmes
And back then, it was not.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, himself, he said that he was the victim of black-on-white racism as a child, so that even flies contrary to his...
jordan holmes
Yeah, even his own bullshit lies contradict his new bullshit lies.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I mean, you have heard him say things like that before.
It's like, back in the day, there wasn't racism.
Like, that is the old-timiest, whitest thing you can fucking say.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I never saw it because I was surrounded by white people only.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
How can you possibly say that racism wasn't around in the 60s?
dan friesen
In Dallas.
jordan holmes
That's the most insane thing to say.
dan friesen
Utterly nonsensical.
But, I mean, you know, I think that it's possible that from the age that he was sort of formative, he was able to really experience the world.
He's had a lot of bullshit things in his head.
Maybe some of these...
He read that none dare call it a conspiracy when he was 12. So if you think that the globalist narrative has been in his head since 12, he might have thought he didn't experience racism.
jordan holmes
He might have just justified it as, once again, globalism.
dan friesen
The way he does as an adult man.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
So, I mean, that's possible, but that doesn't mean that he didn't experience racism.
It just means that...
jordan holmes
He didn't particularly care, and it was...
Exactly.
dan friesen
So, Alex has another story that he wants to get into on this July 5th episode.
jordan holmes
Fucking no.
No, Christians, no.
No.
Christians do not get to take credit for ending fucking anything.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Christians get to take credit for starting all of this shit, and not necessarily starting slavery.
Like, that's been a thing.
Yeah.
I can think of no examples before Christianity.
Now racism is everywhere.
I'll tell you that right now.
Back in the good old 300 AD, there was no racism at all.
dan friesen
Not a one.
jordan holmes
And then Christians, you know, after the Council of Trent, racism is everywhere.
Everywhere.
Can't stop it.
dan friesen
Also, I think it's kind of disempowering to the people who are fighting against segregation to say that Christians did it.
It might be incidental that some people were Christians, but it was largely oppressed classes that were fighting for their own rights.
jordan holmes
Yeah, Dr. King was Christian, but he wasn't fighting because he was Christian.
dan friesen
He's also fairly socialist.
jordan holmes
He's super socialist.
dan friesen
Let's not talk about that.
jordan holmes
And really anti-war.
Super anti-war.
dan friesen
Let's not talk about that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we don't need to talk about that.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex wants to talk a little bit about the Olympics, because they're coming up.
alex jones
I bet he has nothing racist to say about that.
Regulations look like.
They've officially said men can compete as women.
Women compete as men.
But in every sport but shooting, every sport but shooting, men are faster, stronger, and will win in every group.
I mean, it's not even debatable.
The Olympic men out there, 99.999999999% of men can't compete.
It's mainly genetic.
A lot of them have extra chromosomes and stuff.
There's a lot of disorders where you get extra chromosomes, folks.
You're not mentally retarded.
You're Superman.
You also tend to, you know, strangle your wife and children or whatever.
But the point is that a lot of those guys are superhuman.
You're going to stack them up against women when a lot of the women have extra Ys or extra Xs.
There's all these different disorders.
I mean, those aren't normal people to begin with.
dan friesen
That's one of the most confusing rambles that I've ever heard on this show.
jordan holmes
Okay, so...
dan friesen
Do you think you can parse that?
jordan holmes
I get where he's coming from.
There have been a few athletes, especially women, who have been...
I don't know.
That's a whole thing that I can't really parse.
Because there are a lot of...
The Olympic Committee has forced genetic testing on people now.
Genetic testing on women.
For some reason, they don't feel the need to do it on men.
unidentified
Odd.
jordan holmes
Odd.
dan friesen
Probably a coincidence.
jordan holmes
But there are female athletes who have had a lot of testosterone in their system because of that additional chromosome.
dan friesen
Or they might be taking super male vitality.
jordan holmes
Or they could be taking super female vitality, as Alex Jones does.
dan friesen
Any of these things are possible.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
But...
And that is its own form of prejudice there.
The idea of an equal playing field is both ridiculous and impossible.
Totally.
And I assume that's what he's talking about when he says men can compete as women and women can compete as men?
dan friesen
It's trans stuff.
Oh, fuck me.
In 2016, it was female to male transgender folk can compete as male.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And now they've made it so the other way is okay as well.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would say that's fine.
dan friesen
I don't really care either.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If everybody's fine with it, everybody should be fine with it.
Alex, you are not an athlete.
jordan holmes
Well, he's making the same dumb argument that John McEnroe recently made about Serena Williams where he said she would be 700th on the men's tour.
dan friesen
Bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, who the fuck cares?
dan friesen
No, she would destroy pretty much all the men.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I mean, I don't know.
dan friesen
I'm pretty sure.
jordan holmes
I have no...
I don't think it matters.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
I don't care particularly, but I think she would be...
unidentified
Yeah, I think she's...
dan friesen
Agassi?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I mean, like, then you get into just average power.
Like, how hard do you hit the ball?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, who gives a shit at all?
She is the best female tennis player in the history of the game.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Ever.
So who the fuck cares?
Like, what do you want?
What do you want?
Her to play against Federer?
She's not going to win against Federer, but who cares?
dan friesen
Maybe she would.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
No.
dan friesen
It wouldn't matter.
jordan holmes
Fucking nobody's going to win.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't know enough about tennis.
jordan holmes
Like, Rafa beat Federer all the time.
You know, Djokovic is great.
I love tennis, by the way.
dan friesen
I'm a huge tennis fan.
I bet the female World Cup soccer team could beat the male soccer team.
jordan holmes
Yeah, probably.
dan friesen
So there we go.
There's another one.
jordan holmes
But again.
dan friesen
Curling.
jordan holmes
Again.
Curling.
Who the fuck cares?
dan friesen
Curling, my friend.
jordan holmes
Like, it just doesn't make any sense.
dan friesen
Modern pentathlon.
I don't know.
I'm just naming events now.
jordan holmes
You're just naming random events.
dan friesen
Yeah, obscure events.
jordan holmes
Decathlons.
dan friesen
Right.
I guess the only reason that it's important to keep that clip in there, and the reason I cut it out, was, like, Alex is, he's all about exclusion.
And it is really just, that's what motivates him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
In this sense.
It's just like, oh, I gotta keep these people out.
These people I think are weird.
But then, in saying that, he's talking about how weird he thinks these athletes are.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Who's like, oh, they're not real.
jordan holmes
They're genetic freaks!
Which, to me, sounds like he's just jealous.
unidentified
Maybe.
jordan holmes
He's like, I could never compete with anybody, so it must be that everybody...
It's the same bullshit that you get from people who say, like, oh, the reason black people are good at sports is because they have more...
Fast-twitch fiber or whatever.
dan friesen
There's a little of that in there.
jordan holmes
Or they were bred as slaves to be strong.
dan friesen
They should bank us.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like, fuck you.
dan friesen
Yeah, let's get out of this.
So the next story that Alex wants to talk about is fears about North Korea.
You know, you got that?
jordan holmes
There are a lot of legitimate fears to have.
I'm assuming that he's going to go directly for their burgeoning nuclear power, right?
dan friesen
Let's see where he goes.
alex jones
But let me start getting to this, and then I'm going to get into North Korea as well after Stone leaves us, but that's a big issue right there.
People have been hearing about it forever.
But just because you hear about getting cancer when you're a little kid, and you think, oh, that'll never happen to me, and then you're 60 years old and you get it, it's been almost 60 years since the ceasefire in Korea.
And all the experts agree, it's pregnant for war, Kim Jong-un's out of control.
He's disconnected from reality.
China has no control anymore.
He's firing missiles at everybody, threatening to nuke everybody.
Japan doesn't ever evacuate major cities, and neither does South Korea.
They've been evacuating for weeks.
The weapons are building up.
I'm going to get to that.
I'm going to talk about what a strike on North Korea will look like.
Believe me, they're going to roll out the high-powered radiation weapons.
jordan holmes
He's going to jerk off about this.
alex jones
They've got radiation beams.
They've got...
I mean, they got some sci-fi.
When I say they, the globalists that have been running this country, that's why they're so upset that Trump is now in power of all that, and they've got agencies desperately trying to keep their people in so Trump doesn't become aware of all this stuff and have a chance to audit it at all.
dan friesen
This is number...
75,000 on the list of reasons the globalists are mad about Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He has so many fucking reasons.
I didn't know that it was because radiation beam weapon technology doesn't want the public to know about it.
These globalists are trying to keep that secret.
jordan holmes
And if we do have radiation beam technology...
I'm way on board for keeping Trump from knowing about it.
dan friesen
Oh, sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We do not need that.
jordan holmes
No, there are plenty of reasons also for me to just be unhappy about Trump being president.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Let alone fake ones.
Like, we have sci-fi weapons.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean...
He should probably stick to the, he's trying to bring back prosperity, globalists don't want that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's a good baseline.
jordan holmes
Not super magic weapons.
dan friesen
When you're trying to hot dog and get fancy with the neutron beam weapons and what have you, it's just, come on, man.
jordan holmes
Fun stuff, though.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is.
And he doesn't really ever get back to any real talk about North Korea, which is kind of fun.
Him saying, oh, we'll get to it.
He doesn't.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Roger Stone does come on, and they talk shit on Joe Scarborough.
jordan holmes
Because, yeah, yeah.
North Korea is now a nuclear power, but Joe Scarborough is the one we gotta get to.
dan friesen
They spend a good, like, 20 minutes talking about how Joe Scarborough is a creep and Mika's an asshole.
jordan holmes
Joe Scarborough is probably a creep.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Mika's probably an asshole.
Who fucking cares?
dan friesen
Right, but here's the fun thing.
Roger Stone has it from real good sources that the reason Joe Scarborough's pissed off is that he wanted to run for president.
And then Trump started to pick up heat, and he's like, I can't do this.
I can't get in the game.
So then he was like, I'd be a perfect VP, and Trump snubbed it.
And so now he's super mad, and he wants to take down Trump.
So he's making up all this stuff about the Enquirer and what have you.
He's like, guys, just let it go.
No one really likes Joe Scarborough.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
You're just attacking...
jordan holmes
Who's going to bat for...
Here's why you go to bat for Joe Scarborough.
The president is blackmailing TV.
dan friesen
Yeah, on principle.
jordan holmes
That's very, very bad.
dan friesen
On principle, I'm very against that.
Still don't like Joe Starber.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
You can hate everybody involved.
And you can recognize that Trump is far worse than everybody else involved.
dan friesen
I'm sure a lot of Joe McCarthy's victims were like...
Dicks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I bet there are a bunch of people I wouldn't want to hang out with.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
But at the same time, they're being railroaded by- Dan, that's code for Jews and you know it.
jordan holmes
That's why you got blacklisted in Hollywood in the 50s.
dan friesen
Alex is rubbing off on me.
So, you know, they do that.
And Alex doesn't get back to the North Korea stuff because he has bigger fish to fry.
jordan holmes
That can't be!
dan friesen
There's much bigger fish.
This is like a huge bass compared to the guppy.
That is, North Korean nuclear war.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is the main thing that Alex is talking about today, and surprise, is a load of shit.
alex jones
It blackmails creator of Trump's CNN meme.
It's clearly a joke in response to CNN's hosts saying kill Trump, their guests saying kill Trump, financing plays where Trump's killed, Kathy Griffin simulating his murder.
All these politicians calling for Trump's death, saying somebody should kill him.
The media celebrating people that try to kill him.
Calling for all this violence.
jordan holmes
I'm guessing Maladia probably said somebody should kill Trump.
alex jones
And then you have a fun little smackdown deal based on a fake fight with Vince McMahon and Donald Trump years ago.
And then they say, we forced him and we threatened him.
I'll play one of the clips now.
We told him.
This anonymous Reddit user that if you didn't apologize and pull it and tell folks to pull it that we would destroy you and say you're racist because you're on Reddit.
That's not why.
So they follow the threat, they remove it with lawyer speak.
dan friesen
What?
alex jones
In a statement.
Now look, you can say we're going to expose you and then hope somebody takes it down.
But no, they said, you take this down or we're going to expose you.
And we know this because CNN bragged about it breathlessly the last two days and had at their top story and way down at the bottom was the emergency meetings of the U.N. and North Korea threatening to nuke Seoul, South Korea and Japan and threatening to hit Alaska.
All that insane news wasn't even there because it was all Trump and how he was evil.
Here's a clip.
dan friesen
Sounds like your show.
alex jones
CNN's New Day.
CNN promised not to identify pro-Trump Reddit user if he apologized.
So we won't come after you.
If you remove your free speech, pure bullying, Paul Watson has an article linking to federal and state law where it's racketeering, it's intimidation, it's coercion, it's a terroristic threat.
This is a big bullying terrorist organization, in my view.
jordan holmes
We will suicide bomb Reddit.
unidentified
Okay, so another issue that came up here.
Something remarkable I thought happened yesterday.
I thought it was remarkable that CNN found the Reddit user who created the gif of Donald Trump in the wrestling video.
And where he punches CNN.
So the investigative team went back and found the guy who first created this.
He took credit for it.
And then here comes the remarkable part.
He apologized.
He apologized for having done this.
How often do you hear someone who creates a video that goes viral then say this?
This is what he told CNN.
I would like to apologize for the posts made that were racist, bigoted, and anti-Semitic.
These are the other posts that were on his account.
I am in no way this kind of person.
I would never support any kind of violence or actions against others simply for what they believe in, nor would I carry out any violence against anyone based upon that or support anyone who did.
He went on.
He was so...
But then why is there so much stuff on his account?
He deleted it.
alex jones
Let's stop right there.
We gotta go to break.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let's definitely stop right there.
Don't follow up on that.
alex jones
If they want to set the precedent, see he apologizes, he admits it's wrong, and then mix a bunch of things like anti-Semitism into it, who knows if that's even a real account or a real person?
dan friesen
Great.
jordan holmes
You could fucking Google it!
dan friesen
Yeah, so this is all a load of shit.
jordan holmes
I think my biggest problem with the CNN meme is that Trump was actually in that meme.
dan friesen
Yeah, he was in the WWE.
jordan holmes
That is an actual WWE...
That guy's our president now.
dan friesen
He and Vince McMahon had a match where they each chose a surrogate, and I believe it was at WrestleMania, and the loser, whoever their wrestler lost, they had to shave their head.
jordan holmes
Right.
I'm guessing Trump's head didn't get shaved.
dan friesen
Did not.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I don't believe so.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That was contingent upon his being part of it.
That was definitely in his contract.
dan friesen
I have literally...
jordan holmes
Don't touch my fake hair.
dan friesen
I have literally zero problem with Trump being in the WWE.
jordan holmes
No, that's great.
I have a huge problem with him then becoming president.
dan friesen
If it weren't the exact person of Donald Trump, totally agree.
Or no, I totally disagree with you.
I think it's totally fine.
It's showmanship.
It's nonsense.
I don't think it has anything to do with who you are as a person.
Like, Jon Stewart has gone and done a couple things.
jordan holmes
Jon Stewart Mill?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
The Daily Show's Jon Stewart.
He hit John Cena with a chair.
It was great.
It was a lot of fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is so much fun.
He shouldn't be fucking president, though!
dan friesen
So in 2008, it was Barack Obama, John McCain, Hillary Clinton.
They all appeared on the Titantron to give a speech to the Raw Nation.
To the WWE Nation.
unidentified
Great.
jordan holmes
They gave a...
Presentable, I would imagine.
dan friesen
Some better than others.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, we know who is the worst.
dan friesen
At the same time, they appeared on WWE.
And I don't really think, I understand that there's a difference between having a head-shaving match.
jordan holmes
Did Obama pile-drive Vince McMahon?
dan friesen
No, but if he had five years earlier or ten years earlier, when he wasn't involved in politics or something like that, I don't think I'd really care that much.
jordan holmes
I would.
dan friesen
Alright, well, you're a square and a cuck.
Be that as it may.
jordan holmes
You should have called me a racist to take the power away from my words.
dan friesen
I thought that's what I did with cuck.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, fair enough.
dan friesen
So the bigger picture is that this guy, this Reddit user...
Who went by the name of Han Asshole Solo.
jordan holmes
Which is a terrible pun.
He should have gone with Han Ass Solo or Han Assholo or any number of...
dan friesen
There's so many better puns.
jordan holmes
So many better puns.
dan friesen
So he was a guy who posted this meme and the president retweeted it.
And the situation goes that people started to look into his Reddit past and they found a bunch of really bigoted memes that he'd created.
jordan holmes
Who would have guessed?
dan friesen
The one that got the heaviest circulation was a picture of tons of CNN employees with Star of David on them.
unidentified
That's right.
jordan holmes
He made sure everybody knew how many people at CNN were Jewish.
dan friesen
Right.
And then was like, is this a coincidence?
jordan holmes
Did he mention any other kind of faith-based?
Nope, just Jewish?
dan friesen
Just Jews.
jordan holmes
Just wanted to make sure everybody knew who's Jewish.
He kind of wanted to keep a registry of Jews.
dan friesen
Yeah, he wanted you to be aware of which ones were which.
And mark their pictures.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
In a very reminiscent way.
It reminds me of something.
I'm not sure why.
jordan holmes
You always want to know where Jews are, just in case.
dan friesen
They're wily.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Gotta keep an eye on them.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
He was one of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, this guy, he posts this anti-Semitic shit.
And that's what people are talking about.
They're not talking about Trump's meme being anti-Semitic.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
They're talking about his history that is very easy to find on Reddit.
jordan holmes
Because it's fucking Reddit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So people started to dig into that, and that got a little bit of momentum.
They're like, holy shit, this guy the president just retweeted his neo-Nazi tendencies.
What the fuck is going on here?
So, one thing that people need to be keenly aware of is your internet history that's public.
It gives a lot of clues about who you are.
I could probably go through a ton of people's Reddit past and find their posts and, with a reasonable certainty, figure out who they are.
And that's what CNN did.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They have a whole department that does stuff like that.
Researchers.
jordan holmes
Some sort of investigative department.
dan friesen
Like journalists do.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Strange.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
I've been listening to too much Infowars with you.
I don't believe that that exists.
dan friesen
That a process exists?
jordan holmes
No.
Wrong.
dan friesen
So they dig in.
They figure out, based on clues, who this guy is, based on his Reddit history, they were able to connect to a Facebook page.
Oh, that's the same guy.
They were able to match it.
And they tried to get in touch with him and were unsuccessful.
The first volley.
After they reached out to try and get in touch with him, of his own accord, he made that apology post and got in touch with CNN and spoke with them.
At that point, he had already made his apology.
They didn't bully him into it.
He did that of his own accord.
And they were gracious.
In being like, we will keep your privacy intact as a good faith kind of thing.
In the story that they wrote about his apology, how he reached out to them, they said, we reserve the right to reveal his identity if he doesn't stop doing this shit.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
And everyone takes that as blackmail.
And to me, how I hear that, they went above and beyond by not revealing it.
It's a story.
They have every right to give away his identity.
He made a meme that essentially got a lot of the people who reported on it threatened.
There was a guy who had a long thread on Twitter where he posted a bunch of screencaps of, I hope you die, I'm gonna come find your children type stuff.
Anna Navarro posted a screenshot of someone threatening to kill her children.
These are things that happen when there are crazy people out there.
It's just something that journalists have to deal with.
And when you create a violent tone towards them, as our world has in the last six months, certainly, it's gotten much worse.
Body slamming them, what have you.
You're creating trouble.
jordan holmes
Were it not for the context that we live in now, that would be a fun, silly meme.
dan friesen
Yeah, maybe.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that would be if Trump did not constantly threaten the free press.
dan friesen
And call them the enemy of the people.
jordan holmes
If the free press were not constantly under death threats, were not constantly under attack, at this point, from all sides, really, then that would be a fun, like, oh, look at it!
It's silly!
dan friesen
It's fucking stupid!
jordan holmes
Yeah, look at that!
It's fun!
No, now that is a perfect metaphor for the world that we live in.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I don't think that by posting a meme like that, the guy did anything illegal, certainly.
He's well within his right.
But...
It is a nice reminder that there are legitimate...
jordan holmes
What is that guy's name?
dan friesen
Han Asshole Solo.
jordan holmes
Now, somebody's doxed him by now.
dan friesen
Probably.
I don't know.
I haven't looked into that.
I don't care.
I don't want to know who he is, and I don't want to feed into that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Although I did see people posting screenshots from various message boards of complete doxing information of...
CNN employees, wives' names, phone numbers, office addresses, and stuff like that.
So, I mean, the retaliatory stuff online is, I mean, just because we don't hear about every piece of it, it's way worse than we're aware of.
But still, I think he has the right to do it, but there are consequences to your actions.
And, you know, you blew it.
With the president retweeting you.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because you could fly under the radar if that hadn't happened.
jordan holmes
If you're on Reddit, you know, you're missing the forest for the trees there.
You know, whatever.
dan friesen
What everybody else is missing in terms of forest tree action is that his apology has a very important piece to it that Alex doesn't talk about.
I'm not sure if the CNN coverage really covered it that well.
But one of the pieces of it was he was talking about how...
to making these memes and trying to shock and amuse these reddit communities like the Donald and what have you.
And as best I can tell from the apology that he wrote, it was a moment where he realized the reality of what he's doing doesn't exist just inside this bubble of reddit users.
There's real world consequences to stuff.
And he realized, I have...
I have a bit of a problem with this.
And that is a message that needs to be spread far and wide.
jordan holmes
So his apology...
dan friesen
I think we've lost friendships over meme addiction, essentially.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, so his argument for what he's done...
Is that what he was doing is just doing it for the likes.
For the lows.
No, not that.
He was doing it because they were reinforcing it.
And if you're addicted to upvotes, then yeah, you're going to keep finding ways to give those people what they want.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's why Milo Yiannopoulos had a career.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
The only problem there is no.
No.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You are a racist.
Well, if you put together a chart of every fucking Jewish employee that you can find at CNN and put a Star of David next to them, fuck you.
Your apology means fuck all to me.
Your apology is done.
I don't care if you claim I would never do that shit.
No, you are a racist.
dan friesen
My position on it, and this is not a firm position, because I'm not sure about it.
I don't really know.
If meme addiction would work the same as other addictions.
But, you know, if someone's using and they're like a cokehead or, you know, they're on crack, they're going to do things that are outside of their morality.
They're going to do things that are outside of who they are as a person.
And once they get help and grow through the recovery process, they aren't the same person.
And maybe there's a possibility that that same thing is true of this version of internet addiction.
It might be possible.
jordan holmes
You could say the same thing is true of racism, though.
You could say the same thing is true of once he goes through therapy and figures shit out, then maybe he will discover that he has grown as a person and doesn't exhibit those racist behaviors.
But you can't just fucking apologize as if that means anything.
unidentified
Maybe.
dan friesen
I agree with you, big picture, but where I'm going to draw a line is I don't think you hear a lot of apologies that are that introspective.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
I think that...
And I'm not...
I mean, he might have been bullshitting, too.
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Well, if you can make a meme, obviously you can write a cogent apology.
That's just a fact.
dan friesen
If you take it at face value as sincere and honest, which I might as well.
I have no idea who Han Asshole Solo is.
I got no idea about the meme.
jordan holmes
Now, admittedly...
Now, here's the thing.
If you are against people doxing people on your side, you also have to be against being doxed if they're on the other side.
dan friesen
I'm against all of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I don't know.
When we live in this world of such interconnectedness, it is like, if you even give somebody's name, I instantly know...
Everything about that person.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I know where he lives.
I know his friends.
I know his wife.
I know all of this shit.
Just putting a guy's Facebook profile out there means you've been doxxed.
dan friesen
You can gather a ton of information.
And our names are public.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So we're doxxing ourselves just by existing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I get that, but...
jordan holmes
But in the same way, I never put together a fucking picture with every CNN's Jewish employee there.
dan friesen
And we don't hide behind fake names and what have you.
Look, it's a complicated issue.
jordan holmes
Yeah, when I say, I'm Jordan, I am not...
That's actually my name.
dan friesen
All right, Peter.
jordan holmes
I'm not going to give out my last name, though.
dan friesen
All right, Peter, whatever.
jordan holmes
My last name is Assholo.
dan friesen
So we're going to get back to CNN stuff a little bit later, but Alex takes a brief...
Derivation.
Goes down a little side path.
And he wants to tell you all about the war that's going on against ISIS.
And he has a very interesting theory that I can neither prove or disprove.
jordan holmes
As with most great theories.
dan friesen
My gut tells me it's not true.
This is my gut talking.
I don't know.
I'll let you decide.
alex jones
ISIS cornered in Mosul.
As Iraq prepares victory celebrations.
That's right, Trump and our U.S. military, but his leadership, has almost smashed ISIS that Obama and the globalists created.
jordan holmes
Checks out.
alex jones
And so, now it's coming time for Assad to do what he said he'd do to the U.S. military five years ago.
In secret negotiations, I first broke, Cy Hearst confirmed, on this show, three years later, gave us the credit, not bragging, it's just...
We're the opposite of fake news is why they're so scared of us and lie about us and say things we didn't say.
Because we have the sources that came on who had the courage.
We have the platform.
We'll put it out.
That Obama and NATO were behind the whole Arab Spring, the whole invasion force, all of it.
Our military set aside.
You want to go back to England, don't you?
You weren't even raised here.
Your dad was a dictator.
You're trying to democratize.
They use that as a way to take over your country.
jordan holmes
Not you.
alex jones
Agree to leave and hold elections when we kick ISIS-Al Qaeda out, and we will not help Al Qaeda and ISIS take over.
That was our military's compromise against Obama.
And now we're here five years later, and it's time for Assad, he made that agreement, to begin to segue out.
That's the agreement he made.
And that's what Trump is with Assad.
You want to know the inside baseball?
That's it.
Is that really the right thing to do?
They didn't start the war?
Well, the Russians are there, and they made that agreement with us, bilaterally.
I guess trilaterally, three countries involved.
dan friesen
So, Jordan, how say you on that?
jordan holmes
I mean, only time will tell.
It feels like he probably didn't make that agreement.
dan friesen
My gut says no.
jordan holmes
Mainly because he's still bombing his own people?
dan friesen
Seems to enjoy it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's like a meme addiction, really.
dan friesen
Really, yeah.
jordan holmes
When you really get into murdering your own people, it's tough to give that away.
dan friesen
Right.
You get a taste for it, and then you need it next thing you know.
I mean, his dad was in power from 1971 to 2000.
jordan holmes
He was a dictator.
dan friesen
He was.
jordan holmes
He was a dictator.
dan friesen
And then Assad was in power from 2000 on.
He's been in power for 17 years.
jordan holmes
Well, he's been a secret patriot.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
As we all know.
He's a sleeper.
dan friesen
He grew up in England.
He doesn't want to do this.
jordan holmes
He made that agreement against Obama?
dan friesen
No, no.
Assad?
And our military...
jordan holmes
Yeah, our military.
dan friesen
And Russia.
jordan holmes
Not Obama.
dan friesen
And Russia.
jordan holmes
Our military, who were secretly given...
They did it in secret?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They had to have done it in secret because Obama didn't negotiate that treaty.
dan friesen
In concert with the Russians.
jordan holmes
In concert with the Russians.
dan friesen
The Russians and our military went rogue on Obama and made a deal with Assad that is secret and still the only person who has the balls to talk about it.
It's Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
It seems like that would be the single greatest deal that anybody could have made regarding Syria, at least for, you know, comparatively speaking.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan holmes
Assad needs to fucking go.
dan friesen
Sure.
I don't think he thinks that.
jordan holmes
I don't think he thinks that either.
dan friesen
My gut tells me.
jordan holmes
I think he thinks he owns Syria and gets to do whatever the fuck he wants.
dan friesen
Maybe because it's been his entire life.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
That has been the case.
I don't know.
I think that when you are the child of a dictator and you become a dictator yourself, there's a certain standard of living that you're used to that going to England just isn't going to satisfy.
jordan holmes
I mean, if he could take his billions of dollars and go to England and probably set up shop the same way.
dan friesen
I wouldn't go to England.
I'd probably go to an island.
I would get the fuck on an island.
I'd get an armored redoubt that Alex Jones likes to talk about all the time.
Yeah, I think that's a bunch of horse shit.
jordan holmes
So if Assad doesn't do that, I'm assuming that means he was not a secret patriot.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
He was a secret, secret globalist.
dan friesen
Right.
Right.
I would assume that is the only conclusion we can draw.
Or the Russians and Assad did a double cross on our military that was working against our president.
Military!
jordan holmes
No insane, like, no rogue general would ever think that they could negotiate a treaty with both Assad and Russia.
dan friesen
And pull it off.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Come on.
This is gonna work.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Is this military's 11?
Like, what's going on here?
dan friesen
This goes back to one of Alex's, like, little things that he likes to talk about, about Colonel Schaefer and Mike Flynn saying that they won't be ISIS's air force.
jordan holmes
And, of course, Colonel Klink.
dan friesen
Right.
Colonel Schaefer is as legit as Colonel Clint.
So that's a bunch of bullshit, but we gotta move on to this next clip.
This is where Alex complains about how crazy his job is.
Which, I mean, we can all relate.
jordan holmes
Wait, he's complaining about his gig?
dan friesen
It's fucking crazy.
jordan holmes
Hey, it's gotta tear on everybody.
dan friesen
But it's got its perks.
alex jones
Now, imagine my job.
I'm not complaining.
jordan holmes
He's gonna take over Syria.
alex jones
But imagine my job.
This is just what I'm looking at on the tops of my stacks.
dan friesen
That I haven't read.
alex jones
Gay orgy and cocaine at the Inquisition's headquarters at the Vatican.
dan friesen
Not a true story.
alex jones
That broke...
unidentified
Broke somebody's dick.
alex jones
That broke...
Last week, we broke it Monday here in the United States.
We had the reporter on.
And then what was in the Daily Mail today?
Vatican police break up gay orgy at home of...
Secretary of one of the Pope's, Francis Key Advisors.
This whole thing is coming down, ladies and gentlemen.
jordan holmes
The Catholic Church?
alex jones
It's inside the Vatican.
dan friesen
Right.
alex jones
Look at this headline.
Here's what the 2018 Olympic gender regulations look like.
That was a regular talk show.
I would spend a whole hour and take your calls on that subject alone.
They're saying men can compete as women and women can compete as men.
You know, if men just want to go dominate and get gold medals, but men are chivalrous, most of them aren't going to do that, but some will.
There's already some men winning the racing, the weightlifting, you name it.
dan friesen
That's enough of that.
I mean, but that's like, I love that it starts with, look how crazy my job is.
jordan holmes
Look how crazy my job is, essentially, I'm reading Google News headlines.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm just reading two headlines of stories that I've already discussed vaguely earlier in the show.
jordan holmes
It's a tough gig.
dan friesen
Oh, it's so hard.
You gotta read on the fly.
jordan holmes
Now, if he actually was like, look how tough my job is.
I have to talk for four hours straight with really nothing to say.
Then I'd be like, that's fucking tough.
dan friesen
I agree.
But he wouldn't say that.
That delegitimizes his analysis.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because he has to pretend he does research.
You know, you understand?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, he has to say, like, I've deeply researched, oh, Leo Zagami coming on, talking about how the Vatican gay orgies with coke, all this stuff.
I've read all your books.
Look up on Amazon.
Look up Leo Zagami's books.
They're all Illuminati tell-alls.
jordan holmes
Fucking love it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's a 33rd degree Illuminati!
dan friesen
Former.
jordan holmes
Former.
How do we know that?
dan friesen
That's a good point.
jordan holmes
How do we know that?
dan friesen
I guarantee there are websites that make the argument that he is still in the Illuminati.
jordan holmes
Of course!
dan friesen
I guarantee it.
jordan holmes
I bet he is still in the Illuminati.
Once you're in the Illuminati, they're not just going to let you leave.
dan friesen
Once you're a jet, you're a jet all the way.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
Yeah, there's no doubt about that.
jordan holmes
What kind of all-powerful organization is going to let him go?
dan friesen
Hey, guys, Scottish Sicilian bloodlines, listen up.
Let's make the Illuminati great again.
Because you guys are fucking up.
I have some ideas.
jordan holmes
Look, Putin kills journalists.
If you're in the Illuminati, which is a secret governing body, you've got to kill him.
dan friesen
Putin?
jordan holmes
Sure.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
If he's not...
dan friesen
Oh, you mean Zagami.
jordan holmes
You gotta kill Zagami.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's one...
jordan holmes
I'm not advocating for killing Zagami because obviously he wasn't in the Illuminati.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But if I was in the Illuminati, I would kill Zagami.
Are you kidding me?
dan friesen
That's a huge hole in his story.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
That is a massive hole.
jordan holmes
Why can't they?
I suppose because he thinks he's too public, maybe?
dan friesen
Yeah, that's what they all say.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
I'm too much of a public figure.
They can't touch me.
dan friesen
That's Alex Jones' thing, too.
It's like, I hide in the light.
unidentified
Right, right.
dan friesen
And I use truth and God is on my side.
It's like, no, it's just that you have an imaginary enemy.
Yeah.
So, in this next clip, Alex...
jordan holmes
I wish my enemies were imaginary instead of very, very real.
dan friesen
Yeah, me too.
And I wish one of them wasn't myself.
So, this next clip...
jordan holmes
You're talking about your face, aren't you?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Those stitches.
That face just rebelled against you.
dan friesen
I look on one side, totally normal.
Look on the other side, tiny scar.
jordan holmes
Your two-face.
dan friesen
Tiny scar two-face.
So, this next clip, Alex Jones has read...
jordan holmes
You either die a hero or live long enough to become tiny scar two-face.
unidentified
A little beyond my tombstone.
dan friesen
So, like I said, Alex has read.
Something.
You understand me?
He's read an article about how he and Gwyneth Paltrow sell the same.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
I was hoping we'd get into this sooner or later.
dan friesen
Now, Alex Jones is the king of the straw man.
So he creates a completely false argument against himself that he uses to deflect from the fact that he doesn't really understand the criticism that's being levied against him.
And then he gets just really weird.
It's really weird.
I think this is sort of a sales pitch, but it's very weird.
alex jones
I got a buddy who works here in the military for 20 years, and they feed him all that really horrible GMO, and he just had guts that were shut down.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Irritable bowel, you name it.
It was ruining his life.
I said, listen, take this.
Within a month, no problem.
It's all gone.
Now, I'm not saying it'll help you in every case.
dan friesen
Sure.
alex jones
Because a lot of this stuff is so advanced, and once you get autoimmune problems in your gut, I tell friends of mine, you know, go get parts of their guts removed.
Because, you know, it gets so serious.
And I'm not here, you know, saying that we've got a panacea.
You should consult your physician.
But they call it quack.
unidentified
You know what?
alex jones
Let's skip this one break.
This is too important.
Sorry.
I was a late notice on that.
They call it quacky.
They call it kooky.
They call it nuts.
In a bunch of publications on Monday, they said, look, when are the paltrow cell supplements and so does Jones, they're both kooks.
Now, obviously...
I'm not responding to this because they're criticizing me.
dan friesen
Really?
alex jones
I don't care.
I'm responding to educate folks on how whacked out they are.
I'm talking 10 publications or more I saw, big ones.
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
And they showed as proof of my kookiness a bag of coffee that we buy for like $8 a pound, the very best organic, concentrated, high quality, you know, grown.
In the mountains of Chiapas, Mexico, it's like Guatemalan coffee but better.
Totally organic.
Everybody loves it.
jordan holmes
Covered in iodine.
It's strong.
alex jones
Two different varieties.
jordan holmes
Good and bad.
alex jones
And it's one of our best sellers now because we only market up 35%.
Nobody does that with coffee.
dan friesen
So, we'll get back to the rest of the clip.
But, first thing, good save, saying that you should go talk to a doctor, and really walking back the, like, maybe this won't work.
jordan holmes
Not a panacea, probably won't work, but maybe you should get it.
dan friesen
Also, I'd like to say that in a couple of ads that I didn't cut out, Alex has started saying, like, hey, look, maybe this prostaguard will work for you, but if not, you're still giving us money, and that's great because it funds the operation.
So it's still a win.
jordan holmes
So he's starting to see the writing on the wall as far as the fake...
dan friesen
It's possible because it seems like the sales pitch is, you might not need this and it might not work, but we need your money to keep up fighting the globalists.
So just buy it and maybe it'll work.
I don't fucking care.
jordan holmes
Get auto-ship.
If it helps, it helps.
If it doesn't, you still paid for it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so the other thing, Alex, like I said, is the master of the straw man.
And so what he's done is he's taken these articles and like, they're attacking me because I sell coffee.
And that's interesting.
Because he sells two kinds of coffee.
One of them is just normal coffee.
jordan holmes
What's the other one?
dan friesen
The other one is Wake Up America Immune Support Blend.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
It's the same Chiapas Farmer's coffee, but it has a bunch of weird mushrooms, too.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Now I'm back on board.
dan friesen
And the reason that this coffee is mentioned...
It's not hallucinogenic mushrooms.
jordan holmes
Now I'm back off board.
dan friesen
The reason that it's brought up in this article is, in this case, reishi mushrooms.
It's just a quote from this Quartz article.
More fungi with a load of supposed health benefits.
Current research shows that no scientific evidence to support the claims that reishi mushrooms can treat fatigue or increase stamina.
The reason that it's included in here is because Gwyneth Paltrow's products, there's a product called Spirit Dust that features reishi mushrooms.
Also, it's featured in the Wake Up America Immune Support Blend.
Further, there's Cordyceps mushrooms.
That are supposed to increase immune function, act as a natural aphrodisiac, and improve stamina.
That's also in the Wake Up America Blend coffee.
There's a whole other mushroom.
Oh, no, I'm sorry.
That cordyceps one, for Gwyneth Paltrow, is in a product called Sun Potion.
And it's also found in the Chiapas Farmer's coffee.
He's not being attacked because he sells coffee.
He's being attacked because he uses these same pseudoscientifical herbs and ingredients that are in goop products in this coffee product.
jordan holmes
It'd be awesome if he just leaned in on it and was like, Look!
Gwyneth Paltrow's a patriot.
She knows what she's doing.
dan friesen
That might have been a better strategy.
jordan holmes
That would have been fun.
dan friesen
So the other thing is he has to make this straw man argument and only talk about how crazy is it that they're fucking saying I can't sell coffee.
Coffee's great.
Everyone loves it.
I support these Chiapas Mexican farmers.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The reason he has to do that is the point of this article is that bullshit.
And if you were a goop...
jordan holmes
You would look at InfoWars and be like, this is obviously bullshit.
So it's a criticism on both of them, not on just Alex Jones.
dan friesen
And the mentality of this quick fix magic pill.
jordan holmes
It's interesting.
dan friesen
Case in point, InfoWars sells super male vitality.
Goop sells sex dust.
Sex dust?
Yeah, that have similar...
jordan holmes
Now, I'm in on sex dust.
dan friesen
I love it.
jordan holmes
That's a way better packaging.
dan friesen
Also sounds like an R. Kelly song from about ten years ago.
jordan holmes
That does sound like an R. Kelly song.
dan friesen
So Alex is dodging the criticism, the very real criticism that...
He's a trendy, and it's a bunch of bullshit.
The whole enterprise is a lot of nonsense.
jordan holmes
Well, if the FDA is, you know, the supplement industry is like billions of dollars per year, and it is nothing.
90% of supplements are magic.
They are placebos, and sometimes, and again, the placebo effect is getting stronger.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
So, it is entirely possible that taking these dumb supplements actually does help you out.
But not because of any ingredients in them.
It's because you believe in them.
dan friesen
And if that's the case, God bless you.
I don't care.
jordan holmes
I guess?
I don't know.
dan friesen
I don't judge anybody for enjoying the benefits of the placebo effect.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm not thrilled with people making millions of dollars off selling people the placebo effect under the, like, auspices of my chiropractor friend made these pills.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
I don't like that.
But the more important thing as it relates to Alex is this, to me, it smells like willful, like, not engaging with the actual point of the article.
unidentified
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
And then just being like, they bring up coffee, all right, I'm going to say that they say I can't sell coffee.
Right.
unidentified
Boom.
dan friesen
It's a dunk.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
And again, it's like, they say I can't do this.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
That's the thing that he does.
jordan holmes
We're mocking you.
We're saying that you're dumb, and your listeners are dumb, and Goop is dumb, and her people are dumb.
dan friesen
Totally.
And I respect the hustle on some level.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
I don't think I could ethically live with it.
I would feel very guilty about it.
I feel guilty enough that people donate to this show for nothing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And give people shit.
Maybe in the future.
We'll see.
But, like, not pills.
Not pills.
Except these.
unidentified
Depends on what type of pills.
dan friesen
All right, yeah.
jordan holmes
Wait, is there somebody at the door?
dan friesen
No, those are my painkillers.
Oh.
Which, uh, donate to the show.
jordan holmes
Then nobody's busted.
dan friesen
I will be if I try and sell these pills.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
You will definitely be in jail.
I will rat you out so fast.
unidentified
Snitch!
dan friesen
Uh, so let's get to the rest of this clip.
alex jones
So people are figuring out...
jordan holmes
I'm just a truth teller, Dan.
alex jones
Wait, this really hot Mexican coffee that's so hot now that I've been selling for six years because I liked it?
jordan holmes
I want to fuck this coffee!
alex jones
I got it from the local distributors that get it directly from the choppers, folks?
Who handpick it on their own little farms?
People are like, the average price of this is $25 to $30.
Alex sells it for $17.95.
dan friesen
Whoa.
alex jones
Yes, this is the product we make the least amount of money on.
Because I just wanted to have a great coffee and be competitive.
I think I'm going to raise prices, though.
It should be at least $20.
We're just undercutting everybody.
Once folks try this and figure out this is the hottest coffee out there.
jordan holmes
Fucking yes!
alex jones
One of the hottest coffees out there.
But that's just what I do.
jordan holmes
That's good shit.
alex jones
And I just find it crazy.
The thing they pick to demonize is organic, volcanic-grown mountain coffee.
Because Guatemala is great, too, but it's over the mountain, and it's kind of been overdone.
They've used a lot of pesticides.
It's big plantations.
This is really organic, hand-grown.
I guess wildcraft is the term they use.
But it's all certified and the rest of it.
jordan holmes
Prove it.
alex jones
I mean, imagine, first thing you ask yourself is, why has the Washington Post come out and attacked us?
A bunch saying, I sell quack supplements.
dan friesen
Because you sell quack supplements.
But, I mean, asked and answered.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a very simple question to answer.
dan friesen
So we dealt with all that in the middle.
Let's just move on to this next clip, because this is like...
I'm so glad Alex said this stuff.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This next one is...
He threw me a softball on this.
I can't wait.
So there is a CNN article about the genetic lineage of the Egyptians.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Apparently, they have done some studies.
They've done some genetic testing and found that the people of Egypt were not necessarily Africans.
And they come from Asia and Europe.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which...
Great.
Cool.
However...
jordan holmes
Ptolemies and whatnot.
dan friesen
Alex takes that, runs the ball downfield, and immediately just falls over on his face.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
He tries to get fancy, does some high-stepping, and then just falls right over.
alex jones
It's just what the DNA tests are showing, and what 2,400 years ago, the first global historian, Plato, said.
Plato also said we should have a world government and kill all the poor people.
He's kind of the model of the globalists today.
Wasn't a very nice guy, but the father of what you'd call philosophy.
He was also a historian.
He said there was a base in the Atlantic Ocean that had flying machines.
And he said they created such an energy source so powerful that it blew up their entire island and made the Earth dark for several years and made the temperature get cold.
I actually have read Plato's writings on that.
How would he come up with that?
How would Plato come up with that?
dan friesen
A couple things.
First, Plato.
jordan holmes
That was the plot of Disney's Atlantis, which, great movie.
Great movie.
Underrated.
Underrated how great that movie is.
dan friesen
We'll get to that in a second.
Herodotus predates Plato.
So that's just that.
And Thucydides also predates Plato.
Xenophon was a contemporary of Plato's in terms of historians.
So that's a little bogus.
Now, I am a scholar of Greek.
Yes, you are.
That's something that I studied extensively in college.
jordan holmes
Kind of a big fan.
dan friesen
I'm also crazy.
A little bit.
And I love Atlantis.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, I'm here to tell you that what Alex has done is taken the movie, Disney's Atlantis, and not Plato.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, Plato wrote about Atlantis in two occasions.
There's two dialogues of Socrates that Atlantis comes up.
In Critias and Timaeus.
And in...
Those stories, that is not told.
There's no flying machines.
There's no darkening of the sky for years.
What does happen, basically, and I believe Critias is the longer one, that has, you know, it's Poseidon's land, and he has a bunch of kids, and he lets them rule over it, and eventually the society goes from this divine...
lineage of Poseidon and then as it goes down over time they have all these advantages but they can become decadent and then the end of the story is cut off from the actual transformation I bet it went great.
And then in Timaeus...
jordan holmes
The end of the story is, of course, and they all lived happily ever after.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And then in Timaeus, they talk about how there was this Atlantean civilization that was very evolved and very advanced, and they actually fought on behalf of the Greeks and saved Greek civilization from slavery.
But then they got a little bit too warlike, and as punishment, Zeus destroyed them.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
In one night, there was earthquakes, and the island was swallowed up into the sea.
Which is nothing...
I mean, if you want to really read too far into it, you could say, oh, that's because of the power source they created.
But that is not in the text at all.
That's extrapolation.
Now further, where did he get these ideas, Plato?
Where did he get them?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
dan friesen
Hey, guess what?
They're in the text.
jordan holmes
Don't understand.
dan friesen
If Alex had actually read Timaeus or Cradius...
jordan holmes
He's studied Plato extensively.
He's read those documents.
dan friesen
If he had, he would know that in the actual text, it explains that Plato heard this from his grandfather, who had been told it by Solon.
Solon, the great ruler of Greece.
Solon went to Egypt, and he met some of the rulers there, and they told him the myths of Atlantis, and he brought it back and told Plato's...
Patronage, his father's, and it got passed on to him as sort of folk history.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but where did he come up with those ideas?
dan friesen
He didn't.
jordan holmes
Oh, he didn't?
dan friesen
No, it came from this.
jordan holmes
So that was a very simple question to answer.
Alex probably should have just answered it real quick.
dan friesen
You can read the passage about Atlantis and Critias in 20 minutes.
It's very short.
It has all of those answers in there.
And further, Alex, you don't want to fucking bring up Solon, my man.
You don't want to do it.
jordan holmes
Why?
dan friesen
Because he was one of the best rulers in all of history.
jordan holmes
Can't think of any reason.
dan friesen
He saved the Greek population from self-destruction.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah?
Was it because of the Second Amendment?
dan friesen
It was totally prosperity-based Second Amendment.
jordan holmes
Free market.
dan friesen
Renaissance 1.0.
jordan holmes
Free market.
I believe that would be Renaissance negative zero.
dan friesen
He put on this thing called the schiastasia, where it was the shaking off of burdens.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Wherein everybody was forgiven of their debt because tons of people had become indebted to the higher classes.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
People had sold themselves into slavery, and civilization was just untenable.
jordan holmes
It was a debt forgiveness program.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
A very useful one that has been applied successfully multiple times in history.
dan friesen
Solon saved Grecian civilization back then.
And Alex would maybe have to know something about that and how it could apply to the Can't think of any way!
jordan holmes
Are you saying that there was an over-ruling class that might be called the billionaire elite who were sucking the lives of their poor people?
dan friesen
And even Solon back then, in whatever fucking way back year that was, was aware of the fact that this...
Social inequality was going to completely destroy society.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
They've known it forever.
jordan holmes
Because it always happens that way.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It happens that way literally every time.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Every single time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It happens that way every single time, Dan.
Why doesn't anybody ever fucking not do it?
dan friesen
And so Alex, in order to tell his bullshit story about Atlantis, has to cite...
The Disney movie and claim it's what Plato wrote about instead of actually reading Plato and knowing what he said about Atlantis and where that came from.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because then he would be like, who's this Solon guy?
Look into him like, oh my god, this is a fascinating story of a benevolent poet ruler.
And also, Plato didn't want to kill all the poor people.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
That's not quite true.
The Republic is a little bit weird.
There's a lot of stuff in there that would not be applicable to modern times.
jordan holmes
I agree.
I have read The Republic.
Not really the way that I would do it, but, you know, what you gonna do?
dan friesen
It might be a stretch to say that he is the template of the modern globalist.
jordan holmes
That'd be fun if he was.
dan friesen
So, Alex...
jordan holmes
Who's that at the door?
dan friesen
It's Solon.
jordan holmes
Hi Solon, how have you been doing?
Do you have any good ideas?
dan friesen
You're busted.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
But I will shake off the burden of that busting.
So Alex, you're dumb.
jordan holmes
Are you forgiving me of my busting?
dan friesen
Yep, your burdens of busting.
jordan holmes
Wonderful.
dan friesen
Alex, you're dumb.
You should read the things you say you read.
Also, it's so fucking funny.
jordan holmes
He said that he read it, but that's literally a quote from Atlantis where Michael J. Fox's character is saying they said that there was an unimaginable power source, and that's not anywhere.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That's not anywhere, period.
dan friesen
Not in Play-Doh.
jordan holmes
It was a great movie, though.
dan friesen
Sure.
I mean, I'm not going to argue on that.
I prefer The Road to El Dorado.
jordan holmes
You're wrong.
dan friesen
I might be.
jordan holmes
You're so wrong.
dan friesen
I don't know if I stand by my own words.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
We're going to watch them both back to back.
dan friesen
So, Alex is dumb, and we already knew that, but it's fun to have nice reminders of it.
I also will say I've read a ton of other stuff that's way crazier about Atlantis that has much less validity.
And some of that stuff matches up with some of the, like, theosophists.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
People like the Edgar Cayce crowd and Helena Blavatsky, those type of people who have, like, channeling sessions with people about their pasts in Atlantis.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
Stuff like that.
There is that theosophy world that has some of the pieces of what Alex is sort of espousing.
But he could, like, in much the same way, when we talked on the last episode about...
Randy Kramer and his holographic regenerative med beds.
Alex can't bring that up because then it's like, oh, you believe me.
jordan holmes
You're a fucking idiot.
You fucking dumbass.
dan friesen
He has to just say there's future technologies that globalists are keeping from us instead of using the specific.
In this case, he could say, like, I watched a Disney movie with my kids about Atlantis.
It's amazing.
He can't say that.
He has to say, like, it's in the writings of Play-Doh.
jordan holmes
Well, because...
I'll be fucked if anybody who listens to InfoWars will ever read Play-Doh.
dan friesen
No, I mean, they won't read anything that he cites.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
And again, it is that wonderful game of, you can go check it out.
jordan holmes
No, go read, go look it!
dan friesen
Go check it out.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
Anyway, go check out Play-Doh.
jordan holmes
I've read occasionally stuff about Atlantis, and there are, like, real-world equivalents of that idea.
Like, Pompeii is that same kind of concept of...
Look at this city that was, in an instant, wiped off the map.
dan friesen
Yeah, but that one left a record.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And, you know, you have islands like that that may have sunk to the bottom of the ocean.
dan friesen
Sure.
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Volcanoes are crazy shit, man.
dan friesen
There's a geologic possibility that it is based in some reality.
There is a true story to it.
I believe in Atlantis as a fanciful pseudo-religion in my head, and I don't care that it's not based on anything.
jordan holmes
I mean, I would go with it being a...
Very real allegory.
dan friesen
I can look at some of this Atlantis stuff.
There's cautionary...
Who gives a shit?
jordan holmes
Everybody.
Atlantis is awesome.
dan friesen
This might be the best time for me to announce that in addition to that's what they want you to think coming back, I may be restarting my paranormal podcast that I do solo, but that will be behind a paywall.
Because it takes way too much of my time, and you guys need to pay me.
So if you want to become a policy wonk, that'll help that ever.
Who cares?
Let's get back to CNN.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Alright, I'm back to CNN.
dan friesen
So Alex wants to talk more about CNN and how much bullshit they are.
jordan holmes
Does he get back to North Korea?
dan friesen
He doesn't.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
But he does mention the contest.
jordan holmes
I have some thoughts on North Korea.
dan friesen
Who cares?
jordan holmes
I know.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He does get back to the contest.
The CNN is ISIS contest.
unidentified
Oh, sweet.
jordan holmes
Well, now that they're back up in the stratosphere, he gets to pull it back out as his new, like, hey, sweet, I can waste a good half hour on this shit right here.
dan friesen
Also, it...
It bears mentioning that because Kathy Griffin got fired so quick before they launched the contest, the CNN is ISIS meme has morphed, and they've changed it now to just CNN is fake news.
So they're just doing a propaganda campaign that's based on Trump tweets.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's boring.
dan friesen
But that's also really scary.
That's foot soldiery.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
But, I mean, that's nothing new.
Anyway, here we go.
jordan holmes
I'm just glad he's not advocating for all-out war.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, give them time.
unidentified
Oh, crap.
alex jones
On a scale of one to ten, we're about a seven with people breaking their conditioning and actually responding to attempts to silence and muzzle and stifle speech, but just intensifying it.
I mean, there have been so many memes people have done of me getting beaten up or, you know, me getting my head chopped off, and I've always just made a big joke out of it.
dan friesen
Meme machine.
alex jones
I mean, quite frankly, when you're getting made fun of, that's a good thing.
I mean, look at CNN's ratings are back up.
But now the memes are just absolutely, completely legion.
Oh, I love that, the famous one of Muhammad Ali.
I think he was fighting, uh...
dan friesen
Alex is really distracted.
You can hear it in his voice because he's just watching memes now.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
The producer has just started playing memes.
jordan holmes
He's just started playing memes, so Alex Jones is like, oh, that's a pretty fun one.
dan friesen
He can't keep his train of thought at all.
unidentified
No, of course.
alex jones
And they just miss him over and over again, but I like CNN's recommendation.
How about we actually put some real people's heads on these?
jordan holmes
Fake laugh.
alex jones
Why don't we put...
George Soros' head on some of this.
I mean, we're not wanting real violence.
We're saying it's a joke.
dan friesen
Good save.
alex jones
I mean, it's the Islamists that the globalists are bringing into our country that actually kill us.
dan friesen
Bad save.
alex jones
But, you know, you say that's okay.
Well, then what about us just making jokes?
I mean, now CNN's heads, CNN logos are being put on the heads of ISIS people as they chop folks' heads off.
Oh, CNN is terrorists!
That meme's really taken off, hasn't it?
That was the brainchild of Mike Cernovich.
We have the contest going.
We've had seven or eight people get paid out on it.
Most folks aren't getting on live TV.
jordan holmes
Prove it.
They're just getting on the internet.
alex jones
It doesn't really win the prize.
jordan holmes
It's had a huge effect.
alex jones
The meme's going.
You're victorious.
I want to pay out the other $180,000.
We're not rolling in cash, but that's money well spent, $1,000 and $2,500 prizes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Fucking show the checks.
dan friesen
Well, I believe it, because that number's so low.
Like, I believe that seven or eight people have been paid by him.
jordan holmes
Maybe.
dan friesen
I'm willing to believe that.
Because, like, it's been a month and a half.
He's made it like, oh no, this isn't good enough.
Because he does say later, he's like, hey, everybody's, there are people who have gotten online, but that's not good enough.
You're not on the news.
Right.
jordan holmes
Eh, that's lazy.
That's lazy.
I think that's lazy.
dan friesen
So, I mean, he said it's a $20,000 he's paid out there.
He said he wants to pay out the other $180,000.
I would like a counting of how many shirts he's sold.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I'd like to see if he's made a profit on this.
I imagine he has.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Those shirts are like five bucks on his fucking store with free shipping.
He might be taking a bath on it.
This might be a lost leader.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
As they say.
So they're going to talk a bunch about ISIS.
We're going to talk a bunch about CNN.
jordan holmes
Oh, Dan!
dan friesen
The meme is working!
jordan holmes
CNN is ISIS!
unidentified
The meme!
No!
dan friesen
So they're going to talk a bunch about CNN, but they get distracted by a caller.
This caller calls in.
I think they're probably in the 15 to 16-year-old range.
unidentified
Not good.
dan friesen
And Alex does not really recognize that it's a child he's talking to.
jordan holmes
And even if he did, he would not care.
dan friesen
This caller tells a nonsense story that I just had to keep in because it's kind of delightful in the middle of this bullshit.
alex jones
Here, you want to claim, you know, I want to be this big fish?
Watch this.
And we've hit every goal by your support and by God's providence, and we're now preparing to go to the next level.
Which has them completely panicked, ready to kill me.
By the way, they're assassinating my character in preparation for that, just like Trump.
But that's okay.
God will provide me for my family and my children, I believe.
But whatever happens is God's plan.
So all I ask is that some flesh be spared.
dan friesen
Yikes.
alex jones
So understand, folks, they want it, they got it.
Their attempts to shut us down made me a humble person, give them a real run for their money.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
alex jones
And so...
That's what we're doing here.
But it's because of you, Noreen.
jordan holmes
It made him the most humble person.
alex jones
You, through Infowars and other things you're doing, are changing the world.
So don't thank me.
Thank yourself and thank God.
Go ahead, Noreen.
What's your political points?
unidentified
I've been for Trump since...
I wasn't for Trump when it first started, but after I started watching you, you know, I was for Trump and stuff.
My dad watches Infowars as well.
My dad, he's a warrior.
He was in the Army.
I'm going into the Army.
I'm getting ready for that.
My dad, they wouldn't even let him in at first, actually.
It was a famous story all over the news.
He walked all the way to Washington from Michigan because they wouldn't let him in because they said he had a foot problem.
So he walked with combat boots and he walked straight all the way to Washington until he got stopped by a general and told that they wanted to take him back.
So they took him back, and he got into the Army.
And he went through all of that to get in.
And I'm really impressed by that.
alex jones
Seems I've heard of that story.
That was a long time ago.
Send me a news clipping about that.
I'd love to have your dad on.
That's awesome.
Listen, I want to thank you so much for calling in.
God bless you.
dan friesen
Bless you.
jordan holmes
Did he hold up a boombox in front of the general's house before?
dan friesen
He must have.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Take me back!
dan friesen
There's a couple things here.
I tried to find this story.
I don't have infinite researching time, but I looked.
I could not find anything based on keywords like man walks from Michigan to D.C., military, combat boots.
I don't know.
If it happened, whatever.
Her version of it is not accurate.
In terms of...
jordan holmes
A general came up to him.
dan friesen
That's a child.
That's a child telling a child's story.
And even if it is an adult, they're functioning with adolescent affect.
Their mental process is childish.
They wouldn't let him in because of a foot problem, but then he put on his combat boots and marched to Washington, and then they said they wanted him back.
Like, you're missing a lot of details in there, and that did not happen.
jordan holmes
That's also the plot of the Disney movie Atlantis.
dan friesen
No, it's from Play-Doh.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The other thing that's really fun is her talking about how I wasn't for Trump, and then I listened to you, and then I was, which is like, well, of course.
jordan holmes
No, she said she was in for Trump since the very beginning.
dan friesen
No, she didn't.
I've listened to it a couple times.
She says I wasn't into Trump, and then I started listening to you.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And so, I mean, that's how it works.
You know, you are...
Dumbed down and radicalized by those who yell at you over headphones.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones is ISIS.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The other thing that's super funny is the inability to connect the dots between her theoretically heroic father, who had a foot condition and wasn't allowed in the military, walked to Washington to become a soldier, and Donald Trump, who faked a foot injury to get out of the military.
jordan holmes
Don't.
Nope.
Nope.
unidentified
No, no, no!
dan friesen
The parallel is right there.
jordan holmes
Don't think about it.
unidentified
It's amazing.
jordan holmes
Don't think about it, Dan!
dan friesen
It's amazing.
jordan holmes
Don't think about it.
These are things you don't think about.
The problem I have with that is, of course, that is a very common story as far as...
dan friesen
Man, Washington marches to Washington?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
As far as the military goes, there is that, like, I'm going into the military and they are very high percentage of them hard right.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
Super hard right.
There's a lot of...
Well, as Alex Jones says, you know, there's a lot of military people that listen to him.
There are a lot of cops that listen to him, and all of this stuff is built around, like, I don't want any of these people with authority and guns to believe in bullshit.
dan friesen
Yeah, and they lend themselves to mythologizing a little bit.
I also looked into it on Quantcast.
His numbers have not gone up again, by the way, just to give you guys a...
jordan holmes
Still stayed...
Stayed steady.
dan friesen
And also, I looked into the demographic information about professions, and he is not lying about army people.
It makes up a huge demographic breakdown.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
That's pretty scary.
jordan holmes
I don't like that at all.
dan friesen
Now, here's another thing.
I don't think I'm going to play it on our next investigation episode, but I found a clip from 2015 where he says literally, 80% of our audience is on the radio, and our radio listeners are our secret weapon.
Now, if that's true...
His audience is way smaller than even we think.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because if 80% of his audience is on radio, and those numbers are very available, he has a smaller audience than the Kim Commando show, as we found based on Nielsen ratings.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He has a tiny fucking audience.
jordan holmes
Crazy.
dan friesen
So, I know what he's doing.
He is saying these populations of cities where he's in the market, he's assuming everyone's listening.
I think that's what he must be doing.
Because that's how you get to 40 million, or whatever.
80 million a week.
You just take the population of every city your radio show is in, and now we're there.
Because he has New York, LA, and Chicago.
That makes up a big chunk of it.
You've got three stations in bumfuck Idaho.
That's going to make up a little chunk.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Three stations in Idaho?
That's about 30 million people, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
unidentified
Give or take.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
10 million per Idahoian?
dan friesen
Carry the zero.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I have some bad news and some good news.
What would you like first?
jordan holmes
Let's go with bad news.
Let's get that out of the way.
dan friesen
She's dumb.
Do you want the good news?
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
Leanne McAdoo's back.
unidentified
Yay!
jordan holmes
What was she doing?
dan friesen
She's apparently caring for her elderly grandmother in Florida.
unidentified
Oh, that's sweet.
dan friesen
Which is code for vacation.
jordan holmes
That's very sweet.
dan friesen
It might be.
jordan holmes
I would like it if that was true.
dan friesen
I have no reason to doubt her except for her being involved in a completely lie-based organization.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is true.
dan friesen
That stretches the credibility a tiny bit, but it is believable.
She seems like a sweet lady.
She might be helping her grandmother.
jordan holmes
Did you look it up and see whether or not her grandma has been dead for 20 years?
dan friesen
I have not.
I don't care.
But she has voted six times.
Even though she's dead.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
All right.
No, I don't know.
Anyway, Leanne McAdoo's back, and Alex brings her on Skype to have a little conversation about the CNN business.
alex jones
Leanne McAdoo taking a summer sabbatical to go take care of her grandmother out in Florida, also traveling some to Europe, popping in reporting for Infowars.com.
I really enjoyed having her on last week.
She'll be popping on routinely and also reporting from some foreign countries for us.
We're even getting her news team set up.
Leanne.
When I asked you what you wanted to cover today, when I wanted to get you on, you were on the same page.
I'm glad you wanted to cover this because I haven't really gotten into it yet.
CNN saying, we'll expose your identity if you don't come out and retract this and say it was racist.
Well, they can come out and demonize somebody they want, but they can't say, retract this, say it's racist, or we will destroy you in the news.
That's called blackmail, and Paul Watson has linked a story at Infowars.com.
jordan holmes
How do you just claim that?
alex jones
The U.S. Code and the New York law.
dan friesen
Well, the reason that they're claiming it is a misrepresentation of that line from the story where they reserve the right to give out or publish this guy's identity if he continues to post memes that are flagrantly inflammatory.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Maybe they shouldn't have phrased it that way.
jordan holmes
Do you know what the thing that gets me?
dan friesen
That's not blackmail.
jordan holmes
The biggest issue with that is the writer of the article is the one taking all of that shit.
And that's clearly CNN's legal team.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's probably a policy position.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was not the writer, and he's the one, or she's the one, I don't know who wrote it.
That person is the one getting all of the shit.
All of the death threats, all of that.
dan friesen
Meanwhile, some lawyer in the background is, you know, Scott Free.
His name's nowhere near this thing.
But that's where the blackmail idea comes from.
jordan holmes
Well, actually, his name is Scott Free.
dan friesen
That's a good name for a lawyer.
jordan holmes
That's not a bad name for a lawyer.
dan friesen
So Alex is like, I mean, I get...
jordan holmes
Did you get into a car accident?
Do you have mesothelioma?
Come on down and meet Scott Free!
dan friesen
You're gonna walk.
jordan holmes
Scott Free.
dan friesen
So Alex, I get where it's coming from.
Because in his mind, because he's dumb and has brain damage and doesn't know how to read, he sees something like that.
And the way his brain processes it is they're threatening him.
By saying, if you post things like this in the future, we're going to dox you.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And that's how a lot of the weirdos on the internet and a lot of bots have responded to it.
And that's the argument, that's the sort of narrative that they're presenting.
jordan holmes
Well, and it's very revealing, because that's the narrative, that's what they would do.
dan friesen
Yeah, totally.
jordan holmes
Like, that's what the alt-right would do, is we're going to dox you.
dan friesen
They would dox you for less.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they wouldn't even bother blackmailing you, quote-unquote.
unidentified
No, not a chance.
jordan holmes
But that's the way they think.
That, to them, is actually a reasonable response.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah, that's a good point.
There is so much projection in terms of what Alex thinks the globalists would do.
jordan holmes
And what he's doing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, let's get through this.
unidentified
Let's let McAdoo make some points.
dan friesen
She is tragically dumb in this clip, but...
jordan holmes
Oh, is it?
dan friesen
No, I still love her.
jordan holmes
No, you still love her?
dan friesen
I still love her.
jordan holmes
We should have a double date with you and Leanne and me and Carrie Callahan.
dan friesen
Oh, that would be great.
jordan holmes
That would be fantastic.
unidentified
That would be...
dan friesen
For charity!
jordan holmes
Yeah!
unidentified
Come on, guys.
jordan holmes
A charity date?
I don't understand.
How does that work?
dan friesen
We raise money online to get them to do it.
The money goes to charity.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We can do it for anything.
I don't know, get based stick man out of prison or whatever fucking alt-right cause that Leanne McAdoo would want to sign up for.
jordan holmes
But then secretly give it to trans charity.
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
We're raising money to get rid of vaccines, wink.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Ha ha.
alex jones
I'm just tweeted.
They just committed the crime violating 135.60 of New York Criminal Code coercion, terroristic threats, you name it.
It's all in this report.
dan friesen
You name it.
alex jones
And Julian Assange breaks it down.
Leanne McAdoo, it seems like everything CNN does, they don't have the Midas touch.
Everything they touch turns to oblivion.
unidentified
Right.
lee ann mcadoo
The American people are watching the mainstream media in their death spiral, asking, you know, how deep does this chasm get?
unidentified
And CNN says, hold my beer, and issues this exclusive report.
lee ann mcadoo
And I really don't think that CNN was expecting the bipartisan pushback against this style of reporting, where they've basically threatened the life of a private citizen.
unidentified
They're going to ruin his life.
lee ann mcadoo
Unless he never posts things that are offensive again on the internet, he has to take down all of his posts that are bigoted and what they deem inappropriate.
jordan holmes
Does he have to take down his posts?
dan friesen
He made the choice to do all that stuff, and he wrote his apology.
He requested anonymity when he was talking with CNN because the anti-Semitic shit that he had been posting in the past would cause major problems in his life.
jordan holmes
It would destroy his life, hopefully.
dan friesen
And that would be a direct consequence of his actions.
Right.
unidentified
And that's why I argue, I know your position on it and I kind of see the light of that too, but I think that it is gracious to not do that to somebody.
jordan holmes
It is absolutely gracious.
dan friesen
Give them a chance to make good on the potential of their life as opposed to...
unidentified
It would destroy his life, hopefully.
dan friesen
Just complete destruction.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Which could lead someone down an even darker path.
jordan holmes
I agree with their response to it.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I don't agree with the apology giving him any kind of cover.
dan friesen
Oh, sure.
jordan holmes
I don't agree with him, like...
dan friesen
You still have to own it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's yours.
jordan holmes
He is a racist.
dan friesen
And, well, I mean...
jordan holmes
I think it's a very good thing for CNN not to dox him.
dan friesen
Yes.
unidentified
But...
jordan holmes
I don't buy it.
dan friesen
And by the way, it wouldn't be doxing.
It would be reporting.
Yeah, that's true.
Because they wouldn't publish his home address or his phone number or anything like that.
Someone else on the internet would.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
One of these alt-right fucks who would be like, oh, look at this fucking sellout.
He used to be part of the meme war, but he's not anymore.
He apologized to CNN.
Go get him.
That's who would do that.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
But be that as it may.
jordan holmes
Somebody would blackmail him.
dan friesen
Yeah, someone on the alt-right would.
unidentified
And also, this paragraph in the CNN article is so chilling.
They say they're not going to post his identity.
lee ann mcadoo
They're not going to out him because he's a private citizen, and he's issued an extensive statement of apology.
He took down his offending post, and he says that he hopes his statement can serve as an example to others that they won't post anything like that on the Internet either.
unidentified
Otherwise, CNN...
They're going to go ahead and oust this private citizen who's basically throwing himself on the court saying, please don't ruin my life.
You're going to embarrass my family.
I've taken it all down.
Please don't ruin me.
This is like the forced apology by Otto Warmbier there in North Korea.
What?
lee ann mcadoo
We have stepped into a sazi gulag right now when they are saying, we are going to destroy you unless you stop offending us with your memes.
dan friesen
That's a little dramatic.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
That's a little extreme.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You know, the Stati Gulag really went after racists against Jews.
Totally.
They were super against people posting racist memes about Jews.
dan friesen
That's because the globalists have tweaked this political correctness social engineering.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's what you've got to understand.
It's the same model, different color.
Or whatever, if you're talking cars.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, I like Leanne McAdoo's ability to spin a yarn.
I mean, if you're dumb, that makes sense.
But it doesn't match up with the facts.
It doesn't match up with the truth.
That guy isn't saying, please don't do these things.
Like, don't.
Oh, I'll take down everything.
Oh, powerful CNN, don't do that.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
He just apologized for being a dick.
dan friesen
No, what happened was, he didn't realize the magnitude of his actions.
He didn't realize, oh shit, people are really hurt by...
Me being a fucking Jew-hating asshole.
People who are Jewish are going to see this thing I constructed where I marked the Jews at CNN.
jordan holmes
And if you're Jewish and you work with this guy, which...
How else do you take that?
dan friesen
Not well.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And let's say, I don't know, you have a grandmother or grandfather who had to wear a fucking Star of David to identify themselves in Germany.
Let's say.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That is very real to you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's real to your experience.
And much like Alex not being able to think that he saw racism as a child, maybe you don't understand that experience.
And I'm not saying I fully do myself, but I've heard it from people.
I empathize.
I understand to a small degree.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
To the extent you can.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And so what I believe wholeheartedly is CNN.
Figured it out through looking at his Reddit posts, which is what they've said they did.
They contacted him unsuccessfully.
And as soon as the outside world poked him, it was like, we'd like to talk to you about this.
He was like, oh shit.
It was a little child.
jordan holmes
He was a 40-year-old man.
dan friesen
There are varying reports.
That's the most credible.
jordan holmes
He's a 40-year-old.
dan friesen
He's a middle-aged person.
Not a 15-year-old like the folks are trying to bully a child.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're trying to pull that narrative of like, he said he was sorry and he's just one of those 15-year-old nerds in a basement and all that shit.
That's an adult.
That is an adult.
dan friesen
Well, if someone, an anonymous person on Reddit does something that everyone loves, then it doesn't matter.
He's a man.
You do something that's wrong, it's a child.
But be that as it may, Apparently, Han, asshole solo, was an adult.
But he turns into a child when CNN pokes him.
And the reality of, like, this is so huge, I gotta apologize.
Oh, my God.
The reality of it sets in.
I've had situations like that happen in my life where everything comes into focus.
I'm like, oh, I fucked up.
Yeah.
I remember back in school pulling some shit and then being like, oh, no.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
I fucked up.
Shouldn't have stolen this...
Shouldn't have had a habit of stealing these Rice Krispie treats from the...
jordan holmes
Had a little steam coming out of his shirt.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, that's absolutely the situation, and his penitence is forced, certainly, in the sense that the real world started looking.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's not forced in the sense that we're threatening you with exposure unless you apologize.
unidentified
It's...
dan friesen
People actually care, and you've got to deal with that now.
And I think he dealt with it in the...
jordan holmes
He did take responsibility for his actions.
dan friesen
Anonymously, but still.
jordan holmes
He didn't...
In his apology, he didn't say...
He didn't hide behind anything.
He said, this is something that's wrong, and I did this.
dan friesen
And I agree that it's sort of hiding behind the idea of...
The addiction of meme culture, but I also, like I've expressed earlier, I think that's real.
jordan holmes
I agree.
That is a real thing.
dan friesen
And I don't think that it's cowardly of him to bring that up as much as it is interesting and insightful.
Be that as it may, my eye itches like crazy.
jordan holmes
Let's definitely keep this in.
unidentified
Thanks for carrying the show while I scratch my eye.
jordan holmes
You said your eye was itchy.
dan friesen
It was.
So, we got a little more about CNN here.
Alex Jones has a very interesting theory about what's going on and how they discovered the identity of this guy.
alex jones
Analysts, we see the way Trump is very deft at not going too far.
They have bloody severed heads.
They say murder him.
They say the guy's a hero that shot Scalise.
The Democrats say hashtag hunt Republicans, on and on and on.
He just puts out an old video, WWE, that somebody else made with a CNN logo.
It's not Hillary's head.
If the president did some video shoot with a bloody head of Hillary...
I would say, that's deranged, that's mentally ill, he's got problems, that's too far, but he's not the one.
He responds to an avalanche, a tsunami, a storm.
jordan holmes
What if he made fun of a handicapped reporter, would you say that was bad?
alex jones
Of just war drums and calls for violence and planning violence and real violence by Antifa attacking peaceful people in WikiLeaks, exposing all this, and we know...
That CNN has contact with the NSA and the deep state leakers.
We know they stage the debates.
We know they're in the WikiLeaks staging things with Democrats.
You know they probably got this guy's data very, very quickly from sources.
So what you're seeing is deep state going after citizens to make examples of them to scare other people from not going out and resisting this.
And I don't think I've ever seen anything blow up in CNN's face bigger.
dan friesen
I think maybe there have been some other examples.
jordan holmes
Oh, so many.
So many others.
I mean, three of their employees had to resign.
dan friesen
Just recently.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But be that as it may, this will be gone from our consciousness very soon.
jordan holmes
Two days.
dan friesen
Max.
But be that as it may, this theory that the deep state is behind figuring out who this guy is, is Alex being too old to really understand the internet.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I don't post anything on Reddit, because I know that it's very easy for, you know, crazy people who have a lot of time.
To figure out who people are by their posts.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, they figured, like, a single reporter figured out who, uh, which is it.
It wasn't, was it the director of the FBI?
They figured, they found his, yeah, no, it was Comey.
They found his Twitter feed.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He had, like, seven followers and all they had to do was just cross-reference a bunch of different posts.
And there it is!
dan friesen
I don't know that story, and I think I saw some posting about it, and I thought it might be fake, so I just kept my distance from it.
jordan holmes
Totally real.
dan friesen
Interesting.
So, that's a dumb theory that Alex has about the deep state being involved.
It was absolutely not.
He has another dumb theory here.
I'll let this play, and then I'll explain.
jordan holmes
I like the idea that the deep state has nothing better to do.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This guy made a meme!
Let's get him!
dan friesen
We have got...
We are up to our nuts.
In trying to get this fucking fake Russia shit to fly.
Guys, we need a day off.
Let's take a me day and fuck with this guy on Reddit.
jordan holmes
They basically did the exact same thing we did with our project, whatever.
dan friesen
Space episode.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
This was the Deep Space episode.
jordan holmes
Let's have a barbecue.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And let's fuck with this one CNN guy.
dan friesen
So Alex has another dumb theory that involves usernames.
unidentified
Posted by a Reddit user who goes by this online name and who has also laid claim to it.
That user of Reddit's online message board...
alex jones
Notice they black it out not to give the user any attention.
Don't they get now the new memes have got to be in the hundreds of millions of views per hour?
jordan holmes
Didn't they black it out because he's got asshole in his name?
unidentified
Bingo.
Yeah.
It's like, it's a clip that's probably taken from daytime CNN coverage.
dan friesen
You can't say asshole and have asshole written on the screen.
jordan holmes
It would be great.
I think we should be past that.
unidentified
I do too.
jordan holmes
We should probably be past that.
dan friesen
I agree, but it's...
jordan holmes
If you're saying, like, oh, we need to protect the children.
One, the children are not fucking watching CNN.
dan friesen
And they're not innocent anymore.
jordan holmes
And two, they're...
The amount of porn!
That they have seen at this point is beyond.
dan friesen
And they have worse screen names themselves.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
The same kids you're trying to protect are on Xbox calling people the worst things that they can.
dan friesen
Totally.
But I love Alex's theory that I just don't want him to get any attention.
No, it's FCC rules.
Something that you don't have to worry about most of the time.
Except on those phantom affiliates of yours.
jordan holmes
Fill your hand.
dan friesen
So we have one more clip left about this CNN thing.
And I think it's a perfect punchline.
To the whole thing.
I will play it, and I will see if you pick up on why this is hilarious.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
And everybody out there who's posting on Reddit needs to pay attention to this.
lee ann mcadoo
They are trying to set the precedent that if you dare post anything that they don't like, they have the right now to ruin your life, whereas private citizens in the past have been protected.
alex jones
But again, how did they discover?
That's the real investigation.
I bet my bottom dollar they got this from all their sources.
I mean, listen.
I've talked to Stone.
I've talked to other folks off record about this.
We know that mainstream media has intel on us that no one, that even my wife doesn't know.
Okay?
I mean, if it's come out, we're wiretapped.
I mean, that's been in the news.
I mean, every phone I've got, it's come out from the sheriff's department.
They had access to a DEA database.
We're being watched.
We're being listened to.
dan friesen
You get it?
jordan holmes
That seems like a way larger problem.
dan friesen
That's Dennis Montgomery.
jordan holmes
Is it Dennis Montgomery?
dan friesen
Yeah, the Sheriff's Department.
That's Joe Arpaio.
The wiretapping shit, that's just, he's using that again.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
100%.
jordan holmes
I mean, well, the problem is, the problem with that being Dennis Montgomery is that is also a very real thing that is going on.
dan friesen
Well, but not in the way he's saying it.
jordan holmes
No, that's true.
That's true.
dan friesen
That is 100% Montgomery.
That's Montgomery being used as a waypoint.
Much like the gay cocaine orgies at the Vatican are going to be used.
We just see his tactics in full display.
He does that from time to time.
Drop in the Arpaio sheriff stuff.
It's all just that.
And if you have three hours to spare, go listen to that episode.
Because I don't think we've ever done a better job of burying his bullshit than that one.
jordan holmes
God damn.
dan friesen
So there we go.
Just to force up his stories, he throws in a fucking Dennis Montgomery reference at the end.
jordan holmes
I know he has to do it.
He has to turn this from a CNN looked up this guy on the internet into part of his overarching narrative of, you know...
They're in touch with the deep state, which still further makes them part of the enemy.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So they're not just part of the enemy as a news organization that is attacking your Trump guy.
They're part of the enemy in that they're connected to this larger, nebulous organization that is not going to take Trump down.
It's going to kill him.
dan friesen
And all of us.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Eventually.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
Yeah, totally.
jordan holmes
That seems extreme.
dan friesen
It's boring.
jordan holmes
That is boring.
dan friesen
It's really boring.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
There's nothing to the story that they're talking about, and they've already spent thousands upon thousands of theoretical my time on it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And it's meaningless.
And then he throws that in there, I guess to spice it up?
dan friesen
Yeah, totally.
jordan holmes
Like, that's the idea there.
dan friesen
Well, no, I mean, we've talked about it over and over again.
These waypoints are essentially just ways that he can use unrelated information to bolster claims.
And so he throws that stuff in as the same way he throws in George Soros as a Nazi collaborator.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Which, I'm surprised he didn't...
Well, I'm not surprised, but you saw the party, the guest list party.
dan friesen
Oh, he talked about it.
jordan holmes
Oh, did he?
dan friesen
He talked about it with Roger Stone, I believe.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
But he used it as a way of complaining about Valerie Jarrett, I think.
unidentified
Something like that.
dan friesen
Yeah, of course.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what I was doing as well.
dan friesen
They have some thread going about how Mika Brzezinski got Ivanka Trump to hire a globalist Soros activist.
I don't fucking know.
I don't care.
jordan holmes
All right.
No, I want to go down that rabbit hole.
dan friesen
Okay, so that's basically what happened.
jordan holmes
So Mika got Ivanka to hire a globalist activist.
dan friesen
A Soros associate.
jordan holmes
A Soros associate.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Who was a globalist?
I don't know.
Something to do with national security, I think.
She has some vaguely Middle Eastern name, so everyone...
jordan holmes
Oh, well, yeah.
Then, done, done.
dan friesen
Muslim.
She's good friends with Huma Abedin and Valerie Jarrett.
jordan holmes
There we go.
Pedophiles.
dan friesen
They're all hanging out at this party in the Hamptons with Soros.
jordan holmes
Chuck Schumer and then everybody evil.
dan friesen
One of the Kochs?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
One of the Koch brothers?
Jesus Christ.
Ivanka and Kushner?
jordan holmes
Any idea that we don't have a ruling class that exists outside of any kind of partisan bullshit is laughable at this point.
dan friesen
Somewhat.
I agree with you to a certain degree.
I'm willing to believe that there are just sort of high society things where you're there with your enemies.
Because I'm willing to believe that Chuck Schumer maybe doesn't want to talk to one of the Koch brothers.
Maybe.
unidentified
Maybe not.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Anybody who gives him money, I guess.
I don't fucking know.
dan friesen
I don't either.
It's so excluded from our world that we live in that I wouldn't even know the first thing about that.
jordan holmes
Which is a big issue!
dan friesen
The fact that they're all at some fucking bungalow party in the Hamptons, to me, is fucked up slightly in the sense that, like, look at all these opulent motherfuckers, they're riches.
But then, to the extent that, I don't know the context, maybe there was a fundraiser going on, something like that.
There might be some excuse why they're all there.
unidentified
I don't think it matters, though.
jordan holmes
I think it's just indicative of this complete detachment from the rest of us.
That's the big...
The big issue...
dan friesen
You're pissed off that Chuck Schumer didn't show up to your kegger.
jordan holmes
I'm very pissed off about that.
There's nothing I love more than partying with 65-year-old men.
dan friesen
You set the Facebook invitation.
It showed up as received.
jordan holmes
Well, actually, I targeted a Twitter ad, at Chuck Schumer.
It's a very small ad.
But it's just like the healthcare bill.
The GOP did not have any town halls, or they're trying so hard not to meet any of their constituents because they know they're going to be fucking insane about it.
dan friesen
Right, it goes back to that we're not stupid.
jordan holmes
Right, so they just divorce themselves from that.
Like, they have no connection to regular people anymore.
It is insanity.
Like, our elected officials should be us.
Instead of this lunatic group of billionaires.
But, you know, Citizens United was a great decision.
dan friesen
Great one.
jordan holmes
I loved it.
I loved it.
Really, really saved the Republic on that one.
dan friesen
We need a Solon.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
We sure do.
dan friesen
Probably won't happen.
So, that brings us to the end of our investigation of July 5th, 2017.
Alex is pissed off about a fart in the wind that is this CNN story.
Spends a whole lot of time on it.
He has a second fart in the wind in this goddamn stupid Vatican Coke orgy story.
That's not going to go anywhere.
Beyond that, I guess he was just kind of racist for a bit and then told us about Assad's secret plan to step down.
jordan holmes
I love the Assad's secret plan.
What would be the...
dan friesen
Oh, also he's full of shit about Atlantis.
Forgot about that.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
That's my summation of the episode.
jordan holmes
So we're three for four on borderline interesting things.
The CNN thing is dumb.
There's no point in even talking about that.
dan friesen
No, but you gotta kill time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Gotta kill time.
jordan holmes
The Atlantis thing?
Fantastic.
That's the type of Alex Jones that I enjoy is when he's just spinning yarns out of nonsense.
dan friesen
I wish he would have spent an hour on that to really expose how little he knows.
jordan holmes
I wish he would have just given us a breakdown of the movie Atlantis.
dan friesen
By the way, I have recorded an hour or so episode of a podcast about Atlantis.
That I might put behind that paywall on Patreon.
jordan holmes
I'm going to record a different one about the movie Atlantis.
dan friesen
I would love it.
I would love it.
jordan holmes
What the fuck is Michael J. Fox doing here?
I don't know.
unidentified
Why not?
Why not?
jordan holmes
He's a scientist.
dan friesen
He's great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, if you guys want to check us out, you can find us at knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes
You can follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
Correct.
We're also on Facebook at just knowledge fight up on there.
We can be found on iTunes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Okay.
dan friesen
If you'd like to...
jordan holmes
If you'd like to donate to the show, please go to knowledgefight.com and click support the show!
dan friesen
And you can donate to our Patreon.
And if you do know, please know this.
There's a lot of new things that will be coming.
There will be episodes of me and Marty DeRosa's podcast.
That's what they want you to think.
The first one is available to donators.
We talk about Alyssa Lamb.
It was a classic episode from...
Nigh on a year and a half ago or so that I re-released.
There's some other ones that will be coming out.
We're going to start recording some new ones.
And like I said, I'm probably going to restart my Paranormal podcast.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
That's just me solo getting crazy.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That will also be for donators only.
Any amount, policy wonk leveling up, you can get excess.
So if you would like to do that, please do.
I want to make money.
I want to cut that out.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, Alex Jones, where did you come from?
dan friesen
I want to cut that out, but it's too real.
jordan holmes
God damn it, you have become the devil that you hate.
dan friesen
I also have...
jordan holmes
Medical bills?
dan friesen
Herbal aspirin.
I have...
I can't even improvise bullshit medications.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Anyway, thank you all for listening, Jordan.
This has been fun.
jordan holmes
It has been fun.
Dan, is there any kind of good news?
dan friesen
There's one.
It's not news.
jordan holmes
It's not news?
dan friesen
But I have one thing I'd like to get off my chest.
jordan holmes
What's that?
dan friesen
It's been burdening me all week.
jordan holmes
Okay, I'm worried about you.
dan friesen
I'd really like to give this message out to the world.
It was the only thing on my mind while the doctor was cutting up my face.
That is, hey, you know what?
Fuck you, John Rappaport.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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