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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We're a couple of dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
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There's a twist to it, though.
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There is.
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Which is, one, we switch off on buying.
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Novelty beverages.
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Smooth start.
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Thank you.
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That's the big twist, right?
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You look lost.
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That's the big twist.
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Yeah, that is, I guess.
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You've been fucking scaring me with the preview for this.
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Like, your first words are, this might be very, very fun, or you might be furious.
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What am I supposed to do?
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I don't know.
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I'm already shook.
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Well, you could introduce our beverage for the day, because this is your choice.
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It is Stubborn Soda Agave Vanilla Cream Soda.
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How does that taste your base?
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That is pretty good.
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I don't know.
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What do you want me to say?
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It's pretty good.
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I don't know.
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I want a better review.
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Tastes like vanilla.
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It's good.
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It's good.
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Tastes like cake frosting, but liquid.
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Okay.
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Now, I think I know what the next part is.
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The next twist?
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Yeah.
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You know a lot about Alex Jones.
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That is correct.
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And you don't know anything.
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I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
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And let me tell you, what we're going to be talking about today, you know even less about.
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Which is very exciting for me.
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Like Jordan alluded to, I told him before the show...
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This tastes like I'm drinking a vanilla candle.
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Or a cake.
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It's like frosting.
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This is intense.
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It's weird.
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Before the show, I told Jordan that today we're going to be doing something a little bit different, and here's why.
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Alex Jones has been pretty reckless and being pretty violent in the current day, and I don't want to talk about that.
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It's kind of boring, and I also don't want to...
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Feed into or really even dissect the CNN tapes that Project Veritas is putting out.
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Because they're just so obviously manipulatively edited, it's pointless.
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Yeah, he's James O 'Keefe.
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He lied.
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Yeah, he's a monster.
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He's been discredited repeatedly in the past and been sued.
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Repeatedly.
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Successfully.
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The fact that he's even still in the news that somehow people are still paying attention to him is such a disappointing...
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Well, it's because he reinforces the narratives that other people wish were true.
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Right, but I mean, come on.
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Anybody could do that.
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And a massive amount of Koch Brothers or Mercer funding.
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That's true.
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So he has tons and tons of money.
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Hey guys, let's make sure billionaires control our world.
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Like the most recent video he put out was about Zucker, the head of CNN.
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He's like...
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Okay, here's the video.
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I've already taken you off track.
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I don't want to talk about the CNN videos.
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Alright, fuck it!
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We're getting into it!
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Well, the most recent one is legitimately James O 'Keefe outside of Zucker's house.
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Alright.
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And he has his microphone, and he's like, hey, what about these tapes that I've been putting out, basically?
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To Zucker.
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As he walks and enters a car, and then O 'Keefe's like, what a coward.
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All right, dude, come on.
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Dude, just tweet at him.
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That's about as good as you're going to get.
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Then they reveal that they've been staking out in front of his house to get his morning routine down.
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All right.
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So they're stalking him, basically.
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See, now I'm on board.
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This is something that we should adopt right there.
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Don't fucking go to your congressman's house.
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Right.
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Find a billionaire.
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Get a thousand, ten thousand people and just sit around outside their house.
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Legitimately, if we had enough money, we could find out where Alex Jones' studio is.
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I mean, it wouldn't be that hard.
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We could employ the exact same tactics.
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And when he's like, hey, why are you following me around?
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I'm like, I'm a journalist.
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That's true.
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Why are you ducking my questions, Alex?
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That'd be fun.
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Yeah, give us money.
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I'll do it.
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I assume we'd get shot.
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Probably.
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Right?
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We would totally get shot.
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Yeah, he fills his hands.
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Self-defense!
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Yeah.
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Oh, great.
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All right.
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So the other thing is we're currently in the middle of an Alex Jones distraction.
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Yes.
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Which is whenever...
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I don't know exactly what the...
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There's no through line exactly why he does the things he does.
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Yes, there is.
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Brain damage.
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Brain damage.
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Brain damage and money.
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Brain damage and money.
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But every now and again, something will pop up and it'll be...
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Look over here.
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Look over here.
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It's the red sheet to the charging bull of truth.
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Right.
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Like, truth is about to smack Alex Jones right in the face that he's been lying about a bunch of stuff.
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And he gets the red cape out and distracts the bull and it goes and chases that.
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Right.
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This week...
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The Trump form of government.
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Right.
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At the end of last week, he had Robert David Steele on as a guest, who we've discussed in the past when he came on and was saying that Trump needs his own propaganda TV network.
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Of course.
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He was the guy who came on and was like, Alex, I need you to talk to Trump for me.
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I have a list of suggestions he needs to read.
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That's fantastic.
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You don't remember that guy?
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No.
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Are you sure we talked to him?
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We talked about him for sure.
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Was he on the one with the DC guy who was propagandizing?
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No, it was not the Dennis Montgomery stuff.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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No, we just talked about him for a little bit because he was basically saying that they need massive election reform in order to like...
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Voter suppression and the destruction of democracy.
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He has a lot of really bad ideas.
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But he came on the show at the end of last week, on Thursday, and he dropped this nugget.
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Let me see what Robert David Steele has to say.
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Go ahead.
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I agree with that.
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And let me just point out that pedophilia does not stop with sodomizing children.
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It goes straight into terrorizing them to adrenalize their blood and then murdering them.
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It also includes murdering them so that they can have their bone marrow harvested, as well as body parts.
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Hetophilia is much bigger.
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This is the original growth hormone.
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Yes.
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What is fucking happening?
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It's an anti-aging thing.
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And this may strike your listeners as way out, but we actually believe that there is a colony on Mars that is populated by children who were kidnapped and sent into space on a 20-year ride.
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So that once they get to Mars, they have no alternative but to be slaves on the Mars colony.
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There's all kinds of...
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Look, I know 90% of the NASA missions are secret, and I've been told by high-level NASA engineers that you have no idea.
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There's so much stuff going on.
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But then it goes off into all that.
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I mean, that's the kind of thing the media jumps on.
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But I know this, we see a bunch of mechanical wreckage on Mars.
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And people say, oh, look, it looks like, you know, mechanics.
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They go, oh, you're a conspiracy theorist.
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Clearly they don't want us looking into what's happening.
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Every time probes go over, they turn them off.
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Alex, you're one of the most original guys on the air.
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And you asked, what should you do?
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I think you should be the truth channel in America.
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He can't be.
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He doesn't know how.
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So Alex Jones does this.
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He has crazy people on as guests.
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They say ridiculous shit.
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Then everyone is like...
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Look at how ridiculous this shit is.
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Right, but then Alex plays the card of everyone saying that I said that there's bases on the moon.
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I didn't say that.
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Right.
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Play me a clip of me saying that.
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Well, we played the clip.
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You had a guy who you have vocally said you respect his opinion about, and he said it.
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And then your response was, everything that NASA does, most of it is secret.
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There's machine wreckage on Mars.
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You're reinforcing it without actually saying you believe in it.
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Of course.
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But it's still all a trap.
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It's all a trap for the media.
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It's all a trap for people who don't like Alex Jones to clown on him for Mars-based stuff.
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Yeah, I've seen this one in particular on the Twitter.
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Yeah.
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I saw this one.
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NASA came out and said, no.
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Of course.
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That was that.
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Yeah.
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NASA said, come on, bro.
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They had a very put-upon scientist walk up to a podium.
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Rub his forehead and just go, come on, guys.
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Yeah.
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Why do I have to do this?
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And the only real function that we get out of this, this, I mean, I think it's always funny when official organizations stoop below their status.
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Oh, it's fantastic.
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And are like, just shut up.
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That sort of stuff.
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I always think conceptually that's pretty funny.
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Right.
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But at the same time, by NASA putting out articles about it, by people not being really accurate and just making fun of him for it, the end result is that people are exposed to Alex Jones.
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Right.
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If they watch that full clip, they get to hear him talk about how terrible pedophilia is.
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I need to dig more into this.
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Listening to him and being like, oh, he didn't say that there's bases on Mars.
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He was just allowing free speech on his show.
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Right.
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So there is a negative outcome that can come from falling for this bull trick.
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This red cape.
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My question is always like, what's the endgame?
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For whom?
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The Twitter thing, which is amazing how Alex...
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Can just keep fucking showing up in the world every time.
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Every week it seems like he's somewhere on the internet and everybody's laughing at him and it's like, are we helping?
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Are we?
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Yeah, no, I mean...
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We could be.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But no.
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It's not doing any good, and it's just making it more likely for...
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Because the more you click on it, the more they're like, oh, well, this is a thing people click on.
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So the more they do that, the less likely you are to do anything fucking useful, and you're just going to clown on them all the time.
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Everybody thinks...
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And I appreciate our listeners who engage with stuff appropriately and in a smart way, but I do get tweets from a lot of people and texts and stuff about how, like, do you see this new Alex Jones meme?
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Yeah.
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And I think that there's a mentality that people think that...
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can just mock him out of existence yeah not realizing that no you can't that's not going to work there's going to need to be a much more deliberative focused truth-based uh...
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Right.
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Right.
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Is a bigot.
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In the same way that you're fucking...
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Everybody's fucking reading Trump's tweet on those two fucks who gives a shit.
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Right.
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I hope all of them get fucking hit by a meteor.
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I don't fucking care.
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Like, they're assholes, too.
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He's taking away healthcare!
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And...
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Shut the fuck up about his tweets!
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Go fucking...
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Fight!
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And making...
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I mean, I'm not going to.
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I'm very scared of the outside.
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Well, and he's actively trying to make it so we can't vote in the future.
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Yeah, right.
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He's destroying the environment, taking away health care.
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It's going to be super weird how he wins re-election with 97% of the vote.
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It's going to be crazy.
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And Alex Jones' response will be like, he's a strong leader.
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Finally, the polls are right.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Finally, they've fixed the polls.
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So, we have that to look forward to.
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The complete dissolution of democracy.
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So, here's the deal.
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I don't want to talk too much about...
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I just think that it's nonsense.
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Of course.
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It's not worth discussing most of the stuff that Alex is on at the end of last week.
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Like I said, at the beginning of the week, he was on vacation.
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I don't know what's going on.
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He's living a wild life.
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La Vida Loca.
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Did they play Life on Mars for the Coda on that?
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Because that's perfect.
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Nope.
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They did not.
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They should have.
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Anything from that album.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But here's the deal, also.
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As this episode comes out, we'll be getting surgery.
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And I want to treat myself.
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So I've decided to do a complete audible on this episode and explore...
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Where this idea of bases on Mars comes from.
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Alright, now I'm way fucking in.
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Now I am way fucking in!
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Are you kidding me?
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Yes!
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The rest of this episode will have very little to do with Alex Jones.
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But it will have to do with where...
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And 90% of our audience just clicked pause and deleted from the iTunes app.
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I promise you that this will actually be maybe more entertaining than Alex Jones.
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So...
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There are a lot of people who believe in space bases and what have you.
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There's a lot of...
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That community, the UFO community, is very large and very diverse.
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Right.
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You can find tons of people who cite...
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Far more diverse than Alex Jones' audience.
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Totally.
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Yeah.
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Totally.
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I'm sure there's more than 3% African Americans in the UFO.
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Maybe not.
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I haven't seen studies.
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But there are a lot of people who believe, you know...
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A lot of rampant speculation from years past.
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There's a lot of people who have been fooled by fake documents about stuff.
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And that's all fun.
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We could do a deep dive into that.
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Or we could even do a deep dive into stuff like MUFON.
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This is an organization that keeps track of self-reported UFO experiences.
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MUFON?
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Yeah, it's the...
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Multinational UFO Network something.
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I don't remember what it stands for.
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I assumed it was Mulan's brother.
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Nope.
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Or Mufasa's son.
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Mulan, the movie that very traumatized Mike Pence.
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Yeah.
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Oh, God.
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Why do these people happen?
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I don't know.
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I don't eat dinner with anybody other than my wife.
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Or I don't eat dinner with a woman.
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Other than my wife, mother.
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Can't be alone.
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What happened to him?
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What?
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Like, if he had a radio show, his childhood has to have been the most...
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Fucked up thing.
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Yeah, so MUFON stands for the Mutual UFO Network.
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It's a non-profit investigative body.
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I mean, they have maps of where UFOs have been sighted and stuff like that.
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They have fun!
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They're a good group!
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Yeah, and we could get into all that, but so much of that is apocryphal.
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So much of it is basically just, hey, I saw this.
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And there's no real evidence of that.
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It's as good as people writing down their dreams and putting them online.
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Right, right, right.
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Like, okay, this is as credible as anything else.
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Or ghost hunters.
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Yeah, that's no fun.
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No.
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So I've tried to find some more concrete versions of space-based stuff.
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All right.
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And we're going straight to Space Command for our first clip, right?
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No, Space Command doesn't really come into play because that's a pedestrian title.
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That's a title that the people in the know would never call something Space Command.
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That's for Alex Jones and his ilk.
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There is an organization called Project Camelot, and it is run by a lady named Carrie Callahan, and what she does...
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Carrie Callahan!
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Apparently, she had a very large inheritance, and she started...
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An organization where she has Skype interviews with people about their weird experiences.
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All right.
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And she's had a ton of interviews with people who claim that they were personally involved with a lot of really fucked up stuff.
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Sweet.
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So one of the people that we have mentioned in Passing in the Past, a guy by the name of Andrew Basiago, he's done some interviews with Project Camelot.
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He is the guy who claims that he, as a child, was in a time travel program.
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Okay.
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And he went back to, like, the Gettysburg Address.
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He's been years in the future, like into 2040.
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He's been to that far in the future.
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All right.
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He went back millions of years in the past.
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All right.
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He was a time traveler.
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He read HGULs one time.
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When he was a kid, Barack Obama was in the program with him, and the two of them time traveled together.
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Now I've never been happier.
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Andrew Basiago also.
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I choose to believe that.
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Sure, of course.
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He also ran for president in 2016 and is running in 2020.
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So we have that to look forward to.
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All right.
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He also, as I recall, is a big proponent of...
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What's his name again?
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Andrew Basiago.
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All right.
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No longer does anybody say Bernie would have won.
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Now we say Basiago would have won.
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We could have had Basiago.
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We could have had Basiago.
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He's a time traveler.
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We had one time traveler.
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Why didn't we go for two?
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Also, I would argue if he's a time traveler and he's been to 2040, he would know he would lose that race.
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Right?
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It seems like...
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Well, but maybe he knows that he's going to win the 2020 race, and he just had to get his profile out there in 2016.
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Which clearly he succeeded in, seeing as you have no idea who the fuck he is.
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Of course!
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He also believes in Stargate.
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He's big into that.
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He also has made reference to the fact that he is half-dolphin, and has...
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Let's use just a grab bag.
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He's just throwing it out there.
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He has super swimming abilities because of it.
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A lot of these Stargates...
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Is this some email?
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Or are people just asking him leading questions and he just agrees?
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Is he just yes-anding every conspiracy theory thrown at him?
► 00:16:44
Well, you know how Andy Daly creates characters largely as getting in hostile interviews with Scott Ackerman or these people on Comedy Bang Bang?
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It ends up creating the robustness of Don DeMello or of August Lint.
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I'm guessing that a lot of it...
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Is the same methodology, but about creating these, like, yeah, Stargates are mostly found underwater, that's why they had to make me half-dolphin.
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What about chimeras?
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Are they real?
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I'm a chimera!
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You fear me, Alex Jones.
► 00:17:13
Wait, so if he is a chimera and he has been on Alex Jones' show.
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He hasn't been on Alex Jones' show.
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Oh, he hasn't been on the show.
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Not to my knowledge.
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He's been on Project Cam a lot.
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All right.
► 00:17:21
But here's the interesting thing.
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We were texting the other day about how mysterious it is that Alex Jones never brings up, like, Louise Mensch.
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Yeah.
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And how she would be an obvious target for him if he was real.
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He's mad at anybody who's against Trump.
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Right.
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And so she has created this whole cottage industry online of being super against Trump and having secret information.
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Right.
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Seems like Alex Jones...
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Slash making up information.
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Right.
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I realize in hindsight also, I'd like to apologize.
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We haven't been nearly as harsh about her as we should be.
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No, at the very beginning, you and I had this very short conversation where you were like...
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And I regret it.
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You know, we could give her...
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And I'm sitting there screaming at you.
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I regret that.
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Yeah.
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This is on me.
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I gave...
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I'm not here to say I told you so.
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No, and I wasn't saying I believed the things she was saying.
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I was saying that she was in a different class of...
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Lunatic commentator.
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Yeah, lunatic commentator than Alex Jones.
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Right.
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And as time has gone on, the proof of the pudding is in the eating.
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And I don't think I stand by my comments from the past.
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No, it seems as though they have become mirror images.
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Right, and it seems like Alex Jones should be talking about her a bunch.
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Yeah.
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It should be like, look at this crazy broad.
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Yeah.
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He hates women.
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He hates people who are against Trump.
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It seems perfect.
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Yep.
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And the fact that he doesn't makes...
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And it's one thing where he finally gets...
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He could tee off on the lies of the left, you know?
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Every time something is...
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Proven wrong.
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Yeah.
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He could easily do that.
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And the fact that he doesn't is a little mysterious to me.
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I'm not sure it means anything.
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Controlled opposition.
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I have no idea.
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But be that as it may, he also doesn't ever talk about these people.
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These Andrew Basiagos.
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The Project Camelots.
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Yes.
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This whole world of stuff.
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And there's also a reason.
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It's because they expose how stupid his ideas are.
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Oh, really?
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Well, no.
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Not directly.
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No, by their...
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By their words.
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Okay.
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They expose that the things he's talking about are horseshit.
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Okay.
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Like Andrew Basiago saying he's a half-dolphin warrior, it would make lunacy of Alex Jones's, there's half...
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Fish people walking around.
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It's like, hey, if there are half fish people walking around, you're talking about it.
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Why not have one of the fish people on your show?
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Right, because if you do, you interview them, and you're like, oh no, this guy's nuts.
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Exactly!
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It really showcases that the real-world version of the fake shit that Alex talks about is utter garbage.
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Project Camelot is almost if Alex Jones' 12-dimensional dreams and lies all suddenly became true.
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Like, people are LARPing.
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What Alex Jones is talking about.
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Yes, more or less.
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And so Carrie Callahan does this Project Camelot.
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She puts out really long YouTube interviews with people.
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Excellent.
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And one of the great sort of hallmarks of her interview style is she believes fucking everything.
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Now that's great!
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She's like, you know, George Norrie on Coast to Coast AM, he has a philosophy of never make people feel weird.
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Right.
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And so whenever people call in with outlandish stories, he's kind of, he never is like, shut up, you're stupid.
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Carrie is like far, even farther.
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She's like...
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Oh, totally.
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That's fantastic.
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You say crazy shit and she's like, oh yeah, of course.
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See, now that seems more intellectually honest to me than a Fox News interview where they pretend to push back.
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No, totally.
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Yeah, fuck yeah.
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Believe it all.
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I don't give a shit.
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That sounds fun.
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I don't have any reason to suspect that she doesn't believe the things she's saying.
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So I kind of agree with you.
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So she's a professional believer.
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Yeah.
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Like, what she's paid to do is just believe everything everybody says all the time.
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Yeah, more or less.
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And I don't know if she's getting paid all that much, quite frankly.
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Although, the thing is, her videos often have as many views as Alex Jones' videos online.
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And she hasn't lost her ad roll, either.
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No.
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She could be making bank.
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Everybody had a real serious cut in YouTube ad revenues.
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Because they're switching over to that YouTube TV format, they're shifting into a lot of fringe stuff and political stuff is getting cut in terms of their ad revenue.
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Gotcha.
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It's across the board.
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Alex Jones can claim they're trying to censor libertarians, but at the same time, the majority report and secular talk, those two channels have also had massive cuts.
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Uh huh.
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So, you know, who cares?
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Gotcha.
► 00:21:52
Carrie Callahan, Project Camelot have done some very interesting interviews over the years and one of them we're going to be discussing today.
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Excellent.
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But before we do, I'd like to read a little bit of her perspective from an interview she did with Sneaky Mag, which is a sneaky magazine.
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All right.
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Alright, let's hear about Sneaky Bag.
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This will give you a good sense of...
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I think this is a good precursor for the interview we're going to be listening to.
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I'll start with the interviewer.
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So, what do you think aliens have such an interest in Earth?
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So, why do you think they have such an interest in Earth?
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What's so good or special about us?
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Her answer.
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There are many things on Earth they find quite desirable, and I have a good number of whistleblowers who have given me information to that effect.
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My whistleblowers are predominantly ex-military, some of whom are still working for the secret government and who have spoken to me off the record.
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The aliens are very interested in our gold, for example.
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Our gold?
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Our gold?
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Yes, I'm told that gold on Earth is relatively easy to access when compared to getting it off an asteroid, which obviously would have issues when it comes to mining for gold.
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And I think that's a good question.
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I mean, yeah, that's true.
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You also mentioned aliens wanting to do business and form alliances with us.
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Yes.
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Earth is also a very pleasurable place to do business.
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There's also a reason to use Earth as a jumping-off point to explore the rest of the solar system and the galaxy.
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Also, apparently human females are considered to be very useful for breeding and genetic experimentation.
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The extraterrestrials also come here for food.
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Certain reptilian races consider us a food source.
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And then there are those that simply want to do commerce with us and utilize us as allies.
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We're very good at building things, and we also send troops to conflicts around the universe.
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Now this is important.
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Human soldiers are being sent to interstellar conflicts?
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Her answer.
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Soldiers who are alleged to be going to Iraq or Afghanistan are actually being sent off planet to places like Mars to fight battles alongside other alien races.
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Those men and women will have their minds wiped when they come back.
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This is why we're having so many suicides with ex-soldiers.
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In some cases, their minds have been wiped so many times they become unbalanced as a result.
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When they return, they don't know where they've been, they think they've been to the So that's a good primer.
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I love this woman.
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I have never been in love quite like this before.
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So what are your thoughts?
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Man.
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Oh, man.
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Ex-military.
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Some still work for the secret government.
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We're off to a great start.
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First sentence.
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Secret government.
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I'm way in.
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Love it.
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I'm way in.
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Gold is easy enough to find on Earth, which is...
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I mean...
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Seems not true.
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Sure.
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I don't know.
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Is there a lot of gold other places?
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I don't know.
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You know, well, here we go.
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Okay.
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So gold is really only manufactured in the center of super hot stars.
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So when they explode, that's why Earth has so many different precious metals on us because of fusion and stars exploding and that shit, right?
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Something along those lines.
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As I understand.
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Yeah.
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So...
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It would seem that planets would probably be easier to get gold from than asteroids.
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Yeah, I would assume so.
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Is gold on asteroids?
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I don't know.
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I think there are trace minerals on some asteroids, but I have no idea about gold specifically.
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Alrighty, so that one checks out.
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Okay.
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I'm going to say that one's true.
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But do you understand why they want our gold?
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That's not important.
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Why do you feel like that's important?
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There are so many uses for gold.
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Good point.
► 00:25:30
What if they need to...
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Fix their iPhones!
► 00:25:32
Computer chips, it's a conductor.
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We're all good there.
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Quite frankly, asked and answered.
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They have interstellar travel.
► 00:25:40
Yeah.
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But they still haven't figured out to get gold.
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We need the gold for wiring and shit.
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Right, right.
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Okay.
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Earth is a very pleasurable place.
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Totally.
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That, I disagree with entirely.
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Well, it would be a pretty pleasurable place if you could leave.
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Yes, that's true.
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Like, if you had the option of leaving the planet, it'd be nice to be here for a while.
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It's like vacationing.
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Yeah.
► 00:26:04
Oh, yeah, no, there are plenty of good places to vacation.
► 00:26:07
I'd love to go to Cabo, but I wouldn't want to live there.
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Nah, no, no, no.
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I imagine Earth on a grander scale is basically that.
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All right, well, now you've convinced me.
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We're two for three.
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All right.
► 00:26:17
Secret government is still out.
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Okay.
► 00:26:19
Could be.
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Might not be.
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Jury.
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Not sure.
► 00:26:22
Jury is still in chambers.
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Not disprovable.
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All right.
► 00:26:27
Women?
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Probably better for genetic experiments in breeding than men are.
► 00:26:32
Well, yeah, if those are what she's saying.
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That's the binary.
► 00:26:35
I would say that I don't, since I have no experience with alien races, I'm not sure how much genetic experimentation on us would be relevant to them, seeing as we're completely different species.
► 00:26:48
Well, how much, then why do we do genetic experimentation on other species on our planet?
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Fine.
► 00:26:55
Also, there's curiosity.
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So if we're just going to go by curiosity, that's still a worthwhile endeavor.
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Sure, sure.
► 00:27:01
Now we're getting into Lovecraftian stuff.
► 00:27:03
Right.
► 00:27:03
So now we're three for three.
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Okay.
► 00:27:05
Secret government's still out.
► 00:27:07
Eating people, the reptilians want to eat people.
► 00:27:10
This one, maybe, maybe not.
► 00:27:13
I don't know.
► 00:27:14
I've never eaten a person.
► 00:27:15
What about Komodo dragons?
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Right.
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They eat people.
► 00:27:18
Do they eat people?
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They can.
► 00:27:20
Well, yeah, that's true.
► 00:27:21
Yeah, I'm sure they're...
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But I think everybody can eat people.
► 00:27:24
Well, growing up...
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If you try hard enough.
► 00:27:26
Growing up in Hawaii, there was always sort of a slight fear of the Komodo dragon, even though I don't think it's native to Hawaii.
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But we had a lot more lizards around, and the idea of a giant lizard that can eat humans was always kind of a little bit scary.
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That is a scary one.
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Sure.
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They're poisonous, aren't they?
► 00:27:44
They're venomous.
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That's their big deal.
► 00:27:45
But I also think that when you're talking about the reptilians eating humans, it's not just eating our flesh.
► 00:27:50
It's also like harvesting emotions and stuff like that.
► 00:27:53
Oh, I did not know that one.
► 00:27:55
Yeah, in these communities, there is a lot of feelings of like, the world is so negative because you have to create negative energy that these...
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Demonic beings can feast off of them.
► 00:28:06
Okay, so we're back to adrenochrome then.
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Yeah, basically.
► 00:28:09
Basically.
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All right.
► 00:28:10
Now, I have not heard that theory before.
► 00:28:14
Which one?
► 00:28:15
That the reason that soldiers are committing suicide is because they've traveled the universe and had their minds wiped.
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And got men in blacked.
► 00:28:25
Yeah.
► 00:28:27
But I do find that both offensive.
► 00:28:31
Yeah.
► 00:28:32
Insofar as that completely trivializes their, you know, destructive post-traumatic stress disorder.
► 00:28:42
You're basically trying to say, first of all, she's trying to say that there is no war in the Middle East going on.
► 00:28:46
Exactly.
► 00:28:47
And all those hundreds of thousands and millions of people who have died as a result of it.
► 00:28:52
Fake news.
► 00:28:53
Fake news.
► 00:28:54
Yeah.
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So that is offensive.
► 00:28:56
And the idea of seeing people die wouldn't cause...
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PTSD.
► 00:28:59
Yeah, exactly.
► 00:29:00
It's just like, oh no, it must be something more than that.
► 00:29:02
Obviously, it's mind wipes done after you've gone and been a space soldier.
► 00:29:06
Right, exactly.
► 00:29:07
Now, that said- Which is so stupid.
► 00:29:10
It is offensive.
► 00:29:11
It's terrible.
► 00:29:12
That said, I want to live in that world.
► 00:29:15
That's the world I want to live in.
► 00:29:16
This world sucks.
► 00:29:18
Give me the world where universe-traveling soldiers- Are mind-wiped.
► 00:29:23
But that's why people gravitate towards stuff like this, is because it is a much more pleasant world.
► 00:29:28
Oh, absolutely.
► 00:29:29
In the sense that it's fantastical and wild.
► 00:29:31
Yeah.
► 00:29:32
So today...
► 00:29:33
Anything can happen.
► 00:29:33
Are you done with your breakdown?
► 00:29:35
I think so.
► 00:29:36
Okay.
► 00:29:36
So today, Jordan, we're going to be going over...
► 00:29:39
So what I'm saying is she's four for five with a...
► 00:29:42
No, four for six with a jury still out on the secret government.
► 00:29:45
Yes.
► 00:29:46
So today, we're going to be looking at an interview that she did.
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With a gentleman by the name of Randy Kramer.
► 00:29:54
All right.
► 00:29:55
Randy Kramer, to give you a little bit of just a syllabus of what we're about to hear.
► 00:30:00
He is, according to himself, a super soldier.
► 00:30:04
And maybe I'll just let it play out.
► 00:30:06
I want you to be surprised by the things he says.
► 00:30:09
Are we talking Kurt Russell super soldier or Dolph Lundgren super soldier?
► 00:30:13
I don't even know where to draw the line.
► 00:30:16
I'll let him sort of tell his story.
► 00:30:19
I don't want to put words in his mouth.
► 00:30:22
And so, like I said, this is not necessarily the beginnings of the idea that there are...
► 00:30:29
Colonies on Mars and stuff like that.
► 00:30:32
Bases on Mars.
► 00:30:32
I mean, those have probably been around since, you know, the Greeks or whatever.
► 00:30:36
I would assume so.
► 00:30:37
The ancient Greeks, not, no.
► 00:30:38
Well, we're actually- Not yesterday.
► 00:30:39
We're going to get to them in a minute.
► 00:30:41
Fuck yes.
► 00:30:41
They come up.
► 00:30:42
Of course they do.
► 00:30:43
But the, like I said, this isn't the beginning of the ideas of the Mars bases and Mars colonies.
► 00:30:51
Right.
► 00:30:51
But when you look into it and the stuff that's being spewed online, there is- Very little in terms of people who have come out and said that they were involved in those things.
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And therefore, I think it's worthwhile to take a peek at it.
► 00:31:07
Excellent.
► 00:31:07
So I will let this thing start with Carrie Callahan, host of...
► 00:31:13
Project Camelot, giving the introduction and giving some of Randy's credits.
► 00:31:17
Captain Randy Kramer is a U.S. Marine and super soldier who served for 17 years on Mars, defending the Mars colonies.
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He got his start in Project Moonshadow and was assigned to the Mars Defense Force from a covert...
► 00:31:35
Dan, you've made me so happy.
► 00:31:37
You've made me so happy.
► 00:31:39
He's the happiest I've ever been.
► 00:31:44
I'm really glad that that's your reaction.
► 00:31:46
Why are we even doing a regular show?
► 00:31:48
Fuck that.
► 00:31:49
Now it is all about Carrie Callahan.
► 00:31:51
Knowledge fight?
► 00:31:52
No thank you.
► 00:31:53
That's hard and mean.
► 00:31:55
Yeah, I did tell you before the show that this could indicate a new direction that we could take the show in.
► 00:32:00
Oh, fuck yeah.
► 00:32:00
And we just might.
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Oh, God.
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If you guys enjoy this episode, please do let us know, because I am more than willing to do more episodes about these whistleblowers and stuff like that.
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Oh, absolutely.
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So what you can take away...
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The story from that is that this guy, Randy, he has been on Mars for 17 years.
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He is a super soldier, which at this point we still don't really know exactly what that means.
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He will explain.
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U.S. Marine.
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Sure, but I'm going to speculate that he's not.
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Did you look it up?
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I can't find any evidence that he is, but once his story is fleshed out, I'll explain why I'm not convinced he's actually a Marine.
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Is it the Mars thing?
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It's the Mars thing, isn't it?
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I feel like you're not giving him the benefit of the doubt.
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The Mars thing, I will be honest, is a piece of it.
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But based on his timeline and stuff like that, I have reasons to be very skeptical.
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But at the same time, if he was, I don't want to take anything away from his service, and I appreciate it, even if he is a little bit nutty.
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And even if it was on Mars.
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Sure.
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Absolutely.
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Also three years.
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I think I would appreciate that far more, because it's a long drive to Mars.
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Sure.
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Especially if he's been there 17 years, which means that was 2000.
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We probably could have gotten to Mars in what?
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Oh no, this didn't...
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He left Earth in like 1983, something like that.
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So let's take a look.
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In 1983, how long do you think it would have taken to get to Mars?
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Infinite time.
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A few years, at least, right?
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Four or five years?
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More than that, I think.
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Maybe more.
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So he's...
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Roughly, he is a super soldier because he's 75 years old.
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Well, we're gonna get to that.
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Okay.
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I promise you all of these...
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Like, relativity is involved?
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He has to be...
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I promise you all...
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His personal time is so much longer than everybody else.
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I promise you all of these concerns will be addressed poorly.
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Okay!
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Wonderful.
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So, like I said, I'm not entirely sure what the super soldier stuff is at this point.
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Right.
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But Randy comes in and...
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I'm hoping for serum.
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Well, let's see.
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So, I...
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Without diverging too much, which I did a little bit there, in the 1960s, pretty much became the priority technology was super soldier program technology.
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We were really developing the genetic alteration technology and the ability to really, from the ground up, build super soldiers.
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Because before that, what we really had was nothing but trauma-based mind control super soldier technology.
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MKUltra.
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Really primitive, really damaging to the subject.
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And causes the subject to have a really short lifespan.
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So if you want to guarantee that you have a subject that can get a job done for you, you know, at the hand of a very, very large stick, it'll happen, but you're not going to get it for very long.
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And it's going to burn itself out or self-destruct or become completely mentally unstable or something.
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Checks out.
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So, United States Marine Corps Special Section, being the organization that it was, or is, and...
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Being beholden to the O's and the special code that it is, it really was doing plenty of tests and assessments about this technology and was assessing that much of this trauma-based mind control was not working well.
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And so they essentially did a study that said...
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Hey everybody, we've done a study and we think that your methodology of trying to create super soldiers is bad and we have a better methodology that we'd like to try and we'd like to suggest and we think you all should consider why this is a better way of doing things than what you're doing because we think what we call going with the brain training versus this against the brain training that you're doing will not only...
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Create a better subject, super soldier subject, but they'll last longer, they won't go crazy if it works right, and they'll actually want to do their job because you won't beat them and rape them every day.
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Wow, that took a harsh turn right there at the end.
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That was very fast.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So they're talking about MKUltra.
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The MKUltra didn't do a great job of creating super soldiers.
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Certainly didn't.
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Did a great job of giving us One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.
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Yes.
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Sometimes a great notion.
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The electric Kool-Aid acid test.
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Sure.
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Very good stuff.
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Overall.
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Yeah.
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Take the Unabomber out of there.
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Yeah, take the Unabomber out of there.
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Except his writing.
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Got great literature.
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His writing's great.
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You got on the road.
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That's what MKUltra really did.
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Created great artists.
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It created great writers.
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Yeah, but at the same time...
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John Holmes is go.
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You got the whole thing.
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Without doing too deep a dive into MKUltra, it is a program that did exist in the 50s.
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They fed people LSD.
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Well, that was one part of it.
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there were also weird psychological tests that were done on people in terms of abusing them or withholding things and seeing what would happen.
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Right.
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Right.
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Which was the hallmark of science in the 60s.
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Definitely.
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Hey, fuck it!
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I don't know what's going to happen!
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Rules and ethics?
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Nah!
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It's a horrible thing, and it has come out.
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There is evidence of that, but there's no evidence that it continued past its end date, as it were, which is, you know...
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That's what the secret government wants you to think!
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Exactly.
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Secret government!
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Secret government!
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Deep state!
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Damn you!
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So, this all started with Eisenhower, apparently, as Randy Kramer tells it.
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He explains that, basically, they needed super soldiers, and they were working with space programs and what have you, and that's what Eisenhower was really talking about in his exit speech.
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Right.
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He was actually talking about this whole program.
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And off-planetary stuff.
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Also, Eisenhower was the first super soldier.
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And that's what he was talking about when he used the slogan, be like Ike.
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Right.
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Be a super soldier.
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Exactly.
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But in this clip, we have Randy going on and on and talking about how, hey, there was an old way and it was bad and they wanted to go a new way.
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Still not really even explaining what they did.
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No.
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He's not explaining the program at all.
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Genetic alteration building him from the ground up.
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Well, here we go.
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He does talk a little bit about that, but still not all that specific.
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In the late 1960s, Project Moonshadow was formed, and by late 1969, my DNA was being concocted in a petri dish somewhere, and then when I was born in the middle of 1970, I was genetically engineered from the ground up at that point to be a super soldier.
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fighting machine and was implanted back into my mother's womb and came out nine months later and raised as normally as my parents could figure that everything was happening.
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They had no knowledge or anything weird was happening.
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They had a pretty strong religious background, so any of the sort of more weird metaphysical things that were occurring, they could certainly just sort of write off as being a...
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Demonic attack on the household or something that was much more spiritually answerable to their religious system.
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So what we can take from that is his parents were crazy.
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Which would lead to a higher incidence of the kid being a little nutty.
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So he was genetically created.
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In a test tube in a lab.
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Implanted back into his mother's womb, which I'm a big fan of.
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Right.
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And then born and raised as normally as possible.
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Right.
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Which is why we need to stop Planned Parenthood.
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I'm sure they would have aborted him.
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Sure.
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Get him on an interview there with Alex.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So he goes on.
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As opposed to being something maybe more material and extraterrestrial technological.
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But they were certainly there when, you know...
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Strange bruises and strange burns and things were appearing, you know, in the middle of the night.
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I would wake up and be, where did this come from?
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So they're getting old and they don't remember a lot of that stuff when we talk about it.
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But, you know, there's certainly conversations that we've had.
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They certainly recall strange things were going on.
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They kind of live in their own universe as well in some way.
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They weren't really sure what was happening.
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I recently briefed them and they actually took it very well.
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Of course they did!
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They took it well.
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They smiled at you and were like, oh, alright.
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You're too old for us to put you in therapy.
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I don't know what to do with this one.
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Can't 5150 you on this.
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I'm sure after that briefing, they turned and looked at each other like...
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Maybe we need to dial it back a little bit.
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Maybe this is partly our fault.
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I shouldn't have smoked while I was pregnant.
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I shouldn't have used God while I was pregnant.
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Well, I mean, a lot of those things, too, like mysterious bruises and stuff like that.
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You know, you speculated sleepwalking.
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That's entirely possible.
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There's also possibilities of, like, usually when there are bruises and stuff mysteriously on children, it's an indication of abuse.
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Stigmata.
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Yeah, there could be things that he's blocking out from his childhood.
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Ooh.
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Especially if his...
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Parents were super religious.
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Absolutely.
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That definitely gives you that pause there.
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I'm not saying that is the case, but it is entirely possible.
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And when you bring up stuff like that, like mysterious bruises.
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It's at the very least more likely than ghosts and super soldier serum.
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Or genetic engineering.
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I don't know how his genetic engineering to be a super soldier would cause mysterious bruises.
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I mean, it was an experimental program.
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Like, he's sparring?
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He's sparring when he's five?
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No, like, his body is rebuilding itself around these genetic alterations, and sometimes the veins and the arteries will pop or burst as he's growing, and so that's where a bruise would come from.
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That's an interesting theory.
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A subdermal hematoma, my friend.
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That's an interesting theory, and I'll allow it.
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Because why the fuck not?
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We're in uncharted territory, my friend.
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We have a ton to get through.
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Oh, boy.
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A ton of crazy that is going to blow your mind.
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So this is not where I'm going to plant my flag.
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So the issue was, before, they had this MKUltra and this abuse-based way of making super soldiers.
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Right.
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But the problem that you would come to is that these super soldiers you'd create had no morality.
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And they'd burn out.
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Right.
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They'd die real young.
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And they were sort of robots.
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Right.
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They weren't a robust super soldier that you would need.
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And so in this next clip, Randy goes on to explain how he is a version of a more moral super soldier.
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Oh, good.
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Basically, I was trained from my adolescence up to my teenage years, the age of 17, as a super soldier in Project Moonshadow, which, again, was a different kind of program.
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The goal was not to just beat us hard and make us become murder machines, but to try and train us to be actual thinking, feeling, moral super soldiers that would make moral and ethical decisions that would be for the good of the people and for the good of the planet around them.
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Our command kind of based on this historical notion.
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They really took the classic Greco-Roman heroic model and said, look, if we really want to create people like this, if we want to make an Achilles, if we want to make a Hercules, if we want to make an Atlas or an Ajax...
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They're not just murder machines.
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These are moral, ethical heroes who did what they did because they believed in a better purpose.
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They believed in a better thing.
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They were not just bigger, stronger, faster, smarter monsters.
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They were bigger, stronger, faster, smarter, stronger, better heroes.
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Because they believed in self-sacrifice.
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They believed in not just kicking back and being fat with a bunch of cows and a bunch of wives, but, you know, they were out, you know, fighting the dragons and the monsters of the world to protect people.
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No real dragons, but...
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Heard enough, Dan!
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President this man!
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No, that's Andrew Baziago.
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Oh, fine.
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No, no, no!
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I don't care now.
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Now I'm on this dude's tail.
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We need a ticket of the two of them.
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I want this dude...
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How much better a president would this dude be?
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Probably better than Trump.
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It'd be insanely better!
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So, the other thing, though, too, you're right, he needs to re-examine his Greek history.
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Yeah, he does not know what...
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Because Atlas, first of all, was a titan.
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He wasn't a human.
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No, and he definitely wasn't a hero.
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No, he's holding the world on his shoulders.
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That's who Atlas is.
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As a punishment.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because he was bad.
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Yeah.
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Or at the very least, well, I mean, he wasn't really morally bad.
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He just got his ass kicked by Zeus.
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It's hard for us to really grapple with the morality of gods.
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But be that as it may, Ajax, sure, he was a warrior.
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If you want to talk about Achilles...
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He is wrathful.
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That's his primary characterization.
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And the only reason that there's a story in the Iliad is because Achilles gets pissed off that his general comes over and is like, hey, I'm gonna take your war bounty, which was women.
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Yeah.
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His woman got stolen.
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His plunder got stolen.
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He's like, fuck it, I'm not fighting then.
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That's the whole beginning tension of...
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The Iliad.
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Yeah, hero.
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Yeah, it's not like he was fighting for some noble purpose.
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It was because he believed in stuff.
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In the Trojan War, he wasn't fighting for a noble purpose.
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He believed in personal property.
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Sure.
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He believed in the Second Amendment.
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He believed in personal property in the sense that a person was his property.
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Yes, absolutely.
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So, yeah, his examples there are pretty flawed in terms of what a moral super soldier would be.
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And Hercules wasn't so much a hero as a...
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Unwitting toy plaything of the gods.
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But he was also a demigod.
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He was also half-God.
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Right.
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But he had to murder his wife, and he had to do this whole thing.
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He had to fight the Gorgon.
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Yeah, he had to do the 12 tasks.
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He had to clean up a shed.
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It was a big shed, too.
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Now, that is a moral superhero, I will admit.
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If you can clean up that shed, you're good.
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So I think we've pretty well established what makes him a super soldier at this point.
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Imagination.
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Yeah.
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So he doesn't really get too much deeper into the essence of the program that made him a super soldier, other than to say in that last clip he was training, which, I mean...
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Adolescence and on.
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I was sparring with trees.
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I was doing some imaginary training, too.
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Excellent.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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So maybe I'm a super soldier, too, and I just don't know it.
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Entirely possible.
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Yeah.
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Where do you think you got that thing on your face, huh?
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What, the cross-eye?
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No, the surgery you need.
► 00:46:44
Oh, yeah.
► 00:46:45
That's a side effect from your super soldier serum.
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Maybe it's a homing beacon that I'm going to be cutting out of myself.
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Now the super secret soldier program won't be able to find me anymore.
► 00:46:53
Yeah, did your doctor suddenly and mis...
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Mysteriously changed.
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Did they refer you out after the initial diagnosis?
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He did.
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Oh, no.
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Secret government.
► 00:47:01
So, since this is going to happen to me in the near future, I'm glad that we have Randy Kramer here to explain what happened when he entered the program.
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Gotcha.
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So, they took 300 of us and ran us through the program, and then when, I guess, sort of graduated at about age 17, and then we're in Project Moonshadow, essentially.
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As only one of many Super Soldier programs, not just in America, but around the world, that contribute to these larger programs, then...
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Parcel soldiers out of those programs to something called Project Mannequin.
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Project Mannequin is a larger global program which takes all these super soldier programs from everybody else and then assigns them either back to military programs on the ground where super soldiers are either trained or used or then onward to the outer programs to the EDF.
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Anything that is off world out of the off planet is definitely EDF territory.
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So you either kind of get parceled back into a terrestrial unit or you get sent off-world.
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And then once you get sent parceled to the EDF block, the EDF then parcels out its soldiers to Radiant Guardian and to the other solar stations and any of the other planetary bases.
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Dude, get a writing staff!
► 00:48:17
Radiant Guardian?
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Come on!
► 00:48:19
That's terrible!
► 00:48:19
That's one of the names of the programs.
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But also EDF, he keeps saying, is the Earth Defense Fund or whatever, Foundation.
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Right.
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Force.
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Earth Defense Force.
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Yeah.
► 00:48:28
That's the F. So hold on.
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Here we go.
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I'm not privy to every planetary moon base that they have, but they parceled them to all of those.
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And some to Mars.
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And like Mars, the Mars Colony Corporation is what runs the Mars Colony Corporation to make contracts with MDF, which is its own private military contracting agency.
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It's like Blackwater.
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Nobody in the MDF is not from the EDF, but again, like I said, the EDF, because of this whole paperwork thing, is no longer in charge of everybody at the MCC or the MDF.
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Because of paperwork!
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Bureaucracy is a huge issue here.
► 00:49:07
Like, hey, we live in this magical world where you can go to...
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But that makes me buy it far more.
► 00:49:15
Like, the fact that he's gone that deep into the bureaucracy of it is like, oh, man, they're on my ass to fill out this paperwork all the time so I don't get to go to Mars.
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I'll say that it doesn't help convince me.
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It makes me think that maybe he's had a shitty job in his life.
► 00:49:30
That makes me think that maybe he's had to fill out paperwork before.
► 00:49:34
But I like that all the people in the Moon Defense Force are part of the Earth Defense Force, of course.
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But not all members of the Earth Defense Force are members of the Moon Defense Force.
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Well, I mean, this is just normal.
► 00:49:45
This is behavior.
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Yeah, absolutely.
► 00:49:47
So you might be asking yourself, you know, he comes in at 17. What happened?
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Like, what was the actual moment like?
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Yeah, I know.
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He graduated with a class of 300 after defeating the Persians, of course.
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Yes.
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And then what goes down?
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Here's what happened at 17. Okay, but you shipped out from Earth at the age of 17. Is that right?
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Correct.
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That is correct.
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So on November the 17th, 1987, or actually in the morning of, so it would have been November the 18th, 1987, at 2.30 a.m. as pretty par for the course for an evening of training.
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A localized wormhole appears.
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Two guys come out, and they're like, "Okay, it's time to go," and I'm like, "Okay, let's go." But we didn't just go do a training session.
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It was off to an underground base to a hangar with an Aurora TRB-3, a big black triangular vehicle.
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I think they're actually manufactured by Boeing, and they're sold out to the Air Force and whoever else uses them.
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And they're still kind of a standard terrestrial shuttle vehicle.
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They're not the most advanced thing at all, but they do the job, and you don't necessarily want to give way more advanced technology to people if they catch one or get one or take one apart or something.
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No, I'm good with that.
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Yeah, yeah.
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That's actually pretty good strategic thinking right there.
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Yeah, absolutely.
► 00:51:13
So, I want to take this moment to say that his story has changed substantially over interviews that he's done in the past.
► 00:51:21
What?
► 00:51:21
A lot of this stuff did not appear in early interviews that he did about his experience.
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Well, yeah, he's refining.
► 00:51:26
Yeah, absolutely.
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He's remembering more and more.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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It's all coming back to him.
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Yeah, he does sessions where he recovers blocks of his memory and stuff like that.
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And so that explains why a lot of the story shifts and changes.
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Of course.
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But it also explains why he has gotten to this point where a lot of this is blasé.
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A lot of this is like, you know, the Earth Defense.
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There's a lot of paperwork.
► 00:51:53
He does sound very over it.
► 00:51:55
Well, yeah.
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He's like, after a night of training, localized wormhole opened up.
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Boring!
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It happens.
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Yeah.
► 00:52:04
Were you given warning or was it just like a hole in space just opened up and two dudes walked out and were like, hey, come on, get in here.
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And then I'm like, all right.
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Get in here.
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So he goes through this wormhole.
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Localized wormhole is also what they called the bus.
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And my butt.
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Yeah.
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So they come through this wormhole.
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They grab him up.
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They put him in a spaceship.
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Why would you put him in a spaceship?
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You've got a fucking wormhole.
► 00:52:31
Localized wormhole.
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Absolutely, but you don't want to be fucking opening up these crazy long wormhole tunnels.
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Anyway.
► 00:52:40
That's, again, airtight.
► 00:52:43
Airtight logic.
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You're right.
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You're right.
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They could be unstable.
► 00:52:47
Yeah.
► 00:52:47
I mean, when you're going off-planet, you want to go with the safest route, and you've already got these inner...
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These Boeing ships.
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Yeah, these Boeing from 1987.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Yeah, okay.
► 00:52:58
So, you might ask, what happens after that?
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I mean, is there anything boring about your experience?
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Maybe.
► 00:53:05
Where we then went through a processing process and sat down in front of a junior officer, an EDF officer, and explained, here's this big contract.
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You're going away for a 20-year tour.
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You don't know where you're going to go yet.
► 00:53:18
I can't tell you that.
► 00:53:19
We don't know.
► 00:53:19
They made you sign a contract?
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This is what's going to happen.
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Then we'll bring you back.
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We'll erase your memories for security reasons.
► 00:53:29
You don't remember all that crazy stuff anyway.
► 00:53:32
Then we'll send you back.
► 00:53:33
you'll have a really cool job and not to lie but you know they give this kind of song and dance like recruiters do and then after your initial initial sign I love that there's another medical exam, I think.
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Yeah, there's another medical exam.
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But see, this is airtight logic.
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He goes in, he signs this 20-year contract, and part of the contract is, at the end of it, we're going to wipe your memory.
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You don't want to remember that stuff anyway.
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Which they waved off so bad.
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Eh, you're not gonna want to remember that.
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We'll get you a good job.
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They're not lying to you.
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Fucking secret government always lying about you.
► 00:54:11
Why would they make you sign a contract?
► 00:54:13
Like, they would even acknowledge your existence anyways.
► 00:54:16
You were genetically engineered in a lab to become a super soldier.
► 00:54:20
It's not like you're gonna sue.
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You need that paperwork on file.
► 00:54:24
Also, if you're going to be a super soldier on Mars...
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And, like, you haven't signed a contract and you want out?
► 00:54:33
How?
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How are you going to get out?
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You can't just...
► 00:54:39
Well, I assume they've trained you on localized wormholes at that point, right?
► 00:54:43
Localized!
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You can go to another part of Mars.
► 00:54:47
Look, if you're talking about a wormhole...
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Everything is localized.
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That's the whole idea behind wormholes, is that space and time are one point.
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And that you can combine them across the universe at any point in time.
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Very, very silly words coming out of your mouth right now.
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You have no idea how stupid you sound.
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I'm just saying that- Our listeners are like, wow, I thought I respected Jordan.
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That was dumb.
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I mean, it's a full- That's what you're doing with a wormhole.
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You're taking one part and you're just folding space and time together because there's no real distance between the two of them since they're the same thing.
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So how do you even think a localized wormhole is any different from an interstellar wormhole?
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And that's the magic of wormholes is it allows immediate travel to places, theoretically.
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Right.
► 00:55:35
Now you might be surprised to learn that wormholes are in play.
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But at the same time, Randy tells us in this next clip that it takes 15 minutes to get from the moon to Mars.
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Fuck!
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Now I don't even want to be a part of this shit!
► 00:55:48
It takes 15 minutes!
► 00:55:49
What, is there traffic?
► 00:55:51
Yeah, I guess so.
► 00:55:52
So I think I cut out the part where he talks about this, but they go to...
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If we're talking about an Einstein-Rosen bridge...
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Sure.
► 00:55:59
Alright.
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There is zero time, and also you would be spaghettified along the way.
► 00:56:06
So he goes to a moon base.
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I'm guessing that's where they did this processing.
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And then from there, they enter an eight-story tall spaceship that has wings, but he doesn't know why there are wings.
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There are wings.
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It's just like they evolved.
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They're fucking residual wings.
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Also, eight stories tall is a massive...
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It's a very big one.
► 00:56:31
Aerodynamically, that would be difficult to get off the ground.
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But he gets on this ship, and they go...
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Not in space.
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In space, it's easy to get off the ground.
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Even from the moon, that would be difficult.
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Nah, that'd be fine.
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Who cares?
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Anyway...
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I do.
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I do more than I've ever cared about anything else in my life.
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If we need to nitpick, save your energy.
► 00:56:50
So they go in this eight-story-tall ship from the moon, and they go past...
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They do a buzz-by, buzz-fly-by of Earth.
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And from the ceiling, you can see the Earth, and you can see electrical storms, and Randy is filled with this sense that the Earth is alive, and it's this nice last view of Earth before they shoot off from Mars.
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And here is him talking about the beginning of his service and the trip to Mars.
► 00:57:20
I'm assuming that eventually we'll get into why he still has his memory, right?
► 00:57:24
Maybe.
► 00:57:25
Maybe?
► 00:57:26
Literally, maybe.
► 00:57:27
Because his memory should have been erased if we're going by this 20-year contract.
► 00:57:31
I've listened to all of this.
► 00:57:33
Was there like a technicality or something?
► 00:57:34
Because paperwork is so important, did somebody forget to check the memory erase box?
► 00:57:39
There's a clause in his contract.
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The secret government was in breach of contract, so they had to let him go.
► 00:57:47
I can answer that question, but I have to do it later.
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Okay.
► 00:57:51
I'm assuming you're not going to answer it now.
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I just want to know if there's any possible answer in the future.
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I mean, look, there's ostensibly an answer.
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I can't tell you that there's an answer that's good.
► 00:58:05
Look.
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We're an Alex Jones-based podcast.
► 00:58:09
Yeah.
► 00:58:09
We're engaging on their level, not on ours.
► 00:58:12
Yeah, absolutely.
► 00:58:12
So don't say ostensibly once in this entire podcast.
► 00:58:15
Fair enough.
► 00:58:16
Also, I like them way more than I like Alex.
► 00:58:18
Oh my god, I'm so happy with this.
► 00:58:20
Yeah.
► 00:58:20
So here we go.
► 00:58:21
This is about the trip to Mars and the beginning of his time there.
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Also, dovetails nicely into some theories.
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About time travel.
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And you traveled this and how much time was passing during this time?
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I mean, it was a matter of minutes, it seemed like.
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mean maybe it was a 15-20 minute you know ride from the moon to the back to sort of looking at earth and then once we left earth it was maybe a 15-20 minute ride to mars because then we we went via wormhole.
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So then the vehicle, however the wormholes are manifested, went through one and then we came out of Mars and then he says, welcome to Mars, we've arrived at our location, then brought us down to the ground and landed at Aries Primas.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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And then this was your base for, if I recall, is that 17 years or is that, because I know you had three years, what appeared to be some kind of, I think it might have been Solar Warden, correct me if I'm wrong, we call it Solar Warden.
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I'm not sure what you call it.
► 00:59:22
It was Radiant Guardian when I was a part of that program, but it's changed a number of times, and it's been something similar to that.
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In essence, it became a pilot, though, for three years, right?
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About whatever was the remainder of my 20-year tour, however that works out exactly.
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It was 17 years, three months, 14 days-ish.
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14, 15 days, depending on how you want to count, I guess.
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And then the pilot training school, interestingly enough, that was another quantum dilation.
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In order to get more time out of us, they were like, we're not going to waste time on your tour with your pilot training, so we're going to take you to this lunar base to do your pilot training, and then we're going to bring you back 15 minutes after you leave so you don't lose any.
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Okay, so there's time travel, in essence, involved in when you move from one place to another, right?
► 01:00:20
If they want there to be, yeah.
► 01:00:23
Essentially, if they want to save time, they can do something out of time so that instead of it taking days, weeks, or months, it takes 5 minutes or 15 minutes.
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There are some interesting ways to play with time like that.
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I'm not really good at temporal mechanics.
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I don't think I'm good at explaining it.
► 01:00:41
The time guys really understand their business and certainly know how to move things around without crashing the whole central matrix of the universe.
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So you understand what he's saying there.
► 01:00:52
Basically, is that there's time travel involved so they can screw you out of the time that you've been...
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Yeah, exactly!
► 01:00:59
You signed up for 20 years, so maybe you do something that takes like three months and then they time travel you back!
► 01:01:05
Yeah!
► 01:01:05
Well, they don't want to screw you out of their time!
► 01:01:09
It's a living.
► 01:01:10
EDF.
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Curses.
► 01:01:15
Well, if they want there to be.
► 01:01:17
What?
► 01:01:18
Why wouldn't they?
► 01:01:19
Are they joyriding?
► 01:01:21
Are they fucking with you?
► 01:01:22
What's happening here?
► 01:01:23
I don't know.
► 01:01:23
If they want there to be time travel.
► 01:01:24
Who doesn't want there to be?
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It's the idea of stop-lossing.
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If they want to stop-loss you, they can just time travel you back, and then you're fucked.
► 01:01:31
Right, that's true.
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It's a very bizarre understanding of time, and I don't...
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Which means it's the correct understanding.
► 01:01:38
Absolutely.
► 01:01:39
And he seems to be hung up on 15 minutes as a demarcation of time.
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Like, if you want to time travel, they can just go back to the exact time.
► 01:01:47
It doesn't take 15 minutes to time travel.
► 01:01:49
Here's my second theory.
► 01:01:51
Here's my theory on that.
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All right?
► 01:01:54
Because of all the time travel that he's done, the only real amount of time that he can measure in his brain is 15 or 20 minutes.
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Like, that's all he's got.
► 01:02:04
It's possible.
► 01:02:04
So if you're talking to him and you're like, hey, it's 11 o 'clock now, and do you want to watch the Cubs game?
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That's at 6 o 'clock.
► 01:02:13
How long do you think it's going to be?
► 01:02:15
We got 15 minutes.
► 01:02:16
We got 15 or 20 minutes, yeah.
► 01:02:18
Yeah, maybe.
► 01:02:19
He's got brain damage.
► 01:02:20
That's as reasonable as any other theory.
► 01:02:21
There are side effects to time travel, Dan.
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That's true.
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Everybody knows this.
► 01:02:25
Absolutely.
► 01:02:25
I've seen Lost.
► 01:02:27
It's not really time travel, I guess.
► 01:02:28
Desmond's mind just is displaced.
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Eh, they're all dead.
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No.
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You're wrong.
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Well, I mean, at the end, they are all dead, yes, but fuck you.
► 01:02:39
This next clip, we've already established that Randy ends up on Mars, and this next clip, we get a little bit of talk about what Mars is like when he shows up.
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But in essence, you were based then on Mars, and you were there.
► 01:02:56
Explain to people that are going to be relatively new to the subject what your job was on Mars.
► 01:03:03
Right.
► 01:03:03
Well, essentially it was assigned to the Mars Defense Force, like I said at that point, from the Earth Defense Force, which was a private military company that has contracted to the Mars Colony Corporation, or the MCC, to defend the Mars Colony.
► 01:03:16
What about the moon defense?
► 01:03:17
So we essentially were one of many stations who create a buffer zone around the territory where the colonies are located.
► 01:03:25
The colonies?
► 01:03:27
Any of the local...
► 01:03:30
Both hostile animal life and possibly hostile sentient life, you know, out of that territory.
► 01:03:36
And I can only sort of answer for, you know, what was taking place in our area, which, you know, for some time I sort of presumed was the whole thing happening all over.
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But the more information I get from other people, the more I realize, oh, no, I was just up on sort of the northern Arctic front.
► 01:03:51
So, you know, it's sort of this very specific area with some very specific things that were going on there that were not necessarily what were happening everywhere else.
► 01:03:59
But there's certainly still interesting crossroads.
► 01:04:01
What?
► 01:04:02
What's happening?
► 01:04:05
Eventually, there will be a lot more people talking about this.
► 01:04:07
I know a bunch of them, and they're not ready to come forward right now, but I'm talking to these people on a regular basis, and I know people who are talking to people on a regular basis who are all talking about their Mars experiences and their Mars service, and we're all collecting data on that and correlating the data.
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The good news is Randy has met some other crazy people.
► 01:04:25
I want to go to their meetings.
► 01:04:27
I want to be on their group texts.
► 01:04:29
I want to know everything about these people.
► 01:04:31
You know how accidentally some people end up in a work group text sort of thing and they just have to watch the planning for a lunch happen?
► 01:04:38
Why can't we accidentally get lumped in with this?
► 01:04:41
Yeah, I want a wrong number group text to be like, Hey!
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What was your experience like on Mars?
► 01:04:48
And I'd be like, I'm fucking way in!
► 01:04:50
Randy, you were way up north, right?
► 01:04:51
Yeah.
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I was in the Arctic.
► 01:04:53
Yeah.
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The local, hostile life.
► 01:04:57
Yeah.
► 01:04:58
And possibly also, possibly sentient life.
► 01:05:01
Oh, no, no.
► 01:05:02
There is no possible about it.
► 01:05:04
There was.
► 01:05:04
There were aliens.
► 01:05:06
Oh, yeah.
► 01:05:06
Or, well, indigenous Martians.
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As I believe they prefer to be called.
► 01:05:10
Yeah, yeah.
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Okay.
► 01:05:11
That's the correct PC terminology.
► 01:05:15
Yeah, so he was there, he was on Mars, and he had to protect the colonies.
► 01:05:21
Yeah, colonies.
► 01:05:22
Martian colonies.
► 01:05:23
We find some overlap with Robert David Steele from the Alex Jones show.
► 01:05:27
Yes.
► 01:05:27
Talking about there being bases and colonies on Mars.
► 01:05:30
He was there as a super soldier, Randy was, and he had to fight off dogs, I guess.
► 01:05:36
Something like that.
► 01:05:37
Yeah.
► 01:05:37
Local wildlife.
► 01:05:38
Right.
► 01:05:39
So now this introduces a really interesting problem.
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Don't look at me like that.
► 01:05:46
No, again, we're engaging on their world, not ours.
► 01:05:50
What is the one problem that this creates?
► 01:05:52
He goes on to say that their bases were underground and within a mountain, because of course they were.
► 01:05:58
I mean, they would have to be.
► 01:05:59
Yeah, because otherwise we would see them.
► 01:06:02
There are many reasons why they would need to be underground.
► 01:06:05
There are a lot of people with a lot of telescopes.
► 01:06:07
We have a rover on Mars now.
► 01:06:09
This would not be something that we couldn't figure out.
► 01:06:12
Right, but if we've already got bases there, then we can definitely send a rover to the spot where we don't have bases.
► 01:06:18
Yeah, that's true.
► 01:06:19
I mean, it's not like the rover can see the entire planet.
► 01:06:22
Right, but then the issue that I have is if you have underground bases, where are things coming at you from?
► 01:06:30
How are you having a war in underground bases?
► 01:06:33
Well, that's the thing that they discovered, right?
► 01:06:36
So they go there to set up the colony.
► 01:06:38
Right.
► 01:06:38
They start digging underground because they know that people are going to see them if they don't.
► 01:06:41
Right.
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And they better do it quick, otherwise people are going to see them digging.
► 01:06:44
So fast.
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So fast.
► 01:06:46
Well, it was the 80s.
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Everybody was too busy doing coke.
► 01:06:48
I think it's pretty well established that this started before the 80s.
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Okay, fine.
► 01:06:51
This was Eisenhower shit.
► 01:06:52
Okay, this is Eisenhower.
► 01:06:55
We got the nuclear bomb and then immediately went to Mars colonies.
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Gotcha.
► 01:06:59
The nuclear bomb was a distraction.
► 01:07:02
That's when they did it.
► 01:07:03
It was the fallout of Nagasaki.
► 01:07:06
We only really needed a drop one.
► 01:07:08
But Hiroshima, that was the decoy to get us building these Mars colonies.
► 01:07:14
Everybody's too busy with the tragedies.
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Bingo!
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There we go.
► 01:07:17
Now we're on Mars.
► 01:07:18
Digging underground to develop our Martian colonies.
► 01:07:21
But, to their surprise, they're shit.
► 01:07:26
Living underground.
► 01:07:28
Right.
► 01:07:28
So they are fighting.
► 01:07:30
Inch by inch against, I'm going to go with Orson Scott Card style formics.
► 01:07:39
Are you talking about Morlocks down there?
► 01:07:40
Yeah, something along those lines.
► 01:07:42
But if that's the case, then they already have bases down there, and you're just occupying Morlock bases or whatever.
► 01:07:49
Is that the case?
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That's what they're doing.
► 01:07:50
Why do you think they need super soldiers?
► 01:07:52
If there was nothing going on on Mars, you'd just have a bunch of people there.
► 01:07:57
He's drinking the...
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Marrow of children.
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And adrenochrome blood.
► 01:08:03
Yeah, sure.
► 01:08:04
And you'd still need super soldiers even if there weren't weird underground battles going on because you'd need people who were able to withstand.
► 01:08:13
These wormhole jumps and stuff like that.
► 01:08:15
That's true.
► 01:08:16
People who wouldn't be spaghetti-ized.
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Spaghettified.
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Spaghettified.
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Which is a true scientific term that I learned.
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So you might be thinking, too, at this point, that this is a little silly.
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We know that Mars is inhabitable.
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There's no oxygen there.
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Human life could not really exist there.
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Randy wants you to know that you're a dumb-dumb.
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I agree.
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He wants to tell you the truth about Mars' climate.
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Okay.
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You're talking about being on the surface of Mars.
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Are you talking about the Mars that we see and we think we know in this dimension?
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Are you talking about a fourth-dimensional Mars?
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Oh, no, I'm absolutely talking about the physical planet of Mars that we know and understand to be right now and which our rover and probe is on right now.
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No, we're absolutely talking about the same place.
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So, some important things to note about it.
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It's not exactly the way NASA tells us.
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NASA tells us that it doesn't have a breathable oxygen atmosphere.
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That's not true.
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It does.
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I love how sarcastic he is right there.
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It's not exactly as NASA tells us.
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So dismissive.
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That's not sarcasm.
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That's condescension.
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That's just like, you guys are dumb.
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You believe NASA.
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They tell you this.
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It's not quite like that, but you're close.
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Right.
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Right.
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Oh, so good.
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It's a real turn-on.
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So good.
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Super breathable in the sense that this is more like thin mountain air for us, so it's really not recommended.
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Outside the equatorial regions to try and survive without an environment suit.
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The equatorial regions can be a bit warmer and a bit more mild and temperate, so it's not the worst thing in the world, apparently, to just be sort of exposed in street clothing, so to speak.
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But you get any of the directions further north or south, and you're going to get way more extreme temperatures and winds and so forth, and you're going to need some protection.
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But again, you're going to need some oxygen assistance and some breathing assistance if you're going to do any physical moving or fighting, that's for sure.
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So we never went outside without an environment suit, without a powered environment suit with body armor and everything else that we needed all in one package.
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Okay, but did you have structures that you occupied on the surface, or was it all underground?
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We were inside of a mountain and pretty much everything, as I understand, is underground.
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I mean, there may be some facilities which operate on the surface or do things on the surface, but really 99% of everything that you want to stay functioning has got to be underground.
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It is still susceptible to some pretty intense windstorms.
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Yeah, that's fair.
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That is fair.
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I just looked it up.
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It has to be underground, and I'll tell you why.
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Near the poles, temperatures can get down all the way to minus 195 degrees.
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That's pretty cold.
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Even on the equator during a summer day, which I don't remember the length of Mars' orbit around Earth.
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Who cares?
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But summer's a while.
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Yeah.
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It can get all the way up to 70 degrees Fahrenheit.
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Yeah, you can wear street clothes.
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Which means, yeah, you could be out there.
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It's a bit mountain air, so you can still breathe it.
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Don't run.
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Don't go too far.
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Yeah, be careful if you're hiking on the equator of Mars.
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That said, at night, even on the equator, it can get down to minus 73 degrees.
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Minus 100.
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Or minus 100 Fahrenheit.
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Wild fluctuations in terms of temperature.
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So you've got to build it underground.
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That checks out.
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I'm on his side now.
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Now, let's be clear.
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Things are colder underground.
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No, no, no.
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You can control the environment a little bit better and put in heaters and stuff like that, but if it's negative 195 degrees, because he said he's in the north.
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Right.
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He's at the northmost point of their operation.
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He's on the polar northern front.
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Right, so that would be where in the winter it's negative 195 degrees.
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Right.
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If you go underground, that's going to be way colder.
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Closer to Mars' core, Dan.
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The, like, 30 feet underground you are is not going to make a difference.
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No, they break close to the slate.
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He said he's in a mountain.
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He might not even be underground.
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A mountain could be above ground.
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Look, if you're inside a mountain, you're still underground.
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I consider mountains ground.
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What if it's a volcano?
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Ooh, that's a good question.
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See, now you don't even have to worry about heat.
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You use the thermal heat from the volcano.
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All volcanoes are mountains.
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Not all mountains are volcanoes.
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Thank you.
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You stare at me and I end things with a thank you.
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Just like in the, you know, all Mars defense people are Earth defense people, but not all Earth defense people are all Mars defense people.
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All gentlemen are men, but not all men are gentlemen.
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Dicks, dicks, dicks.
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Amen.
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So you might be asking yourself, which is something I keep finding myself saying, at this point you might be quizzically thinking, hey.
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If all this stuff is going on and there are all these space bases on the moon...
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On the moon, Mars...
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Theoretically, everywhere.
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Yeah.
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He's speculated it's probably going on everywhere.
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I mean, if you've got wormholes, fuck it.
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You can get anywhere around the world.
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Why not?
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So why aren't we getting any indication of radio signals from all these?
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Because communication must be going on between them.
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It has to.
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Yeah, yeah.
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He's got that covered.
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Unless they're doing everything face-to-face.
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No, he's got it covered.
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Okay.
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Oh, get surprised what?
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why when we're listening for radio signals, why we don't hear them from everybody is because everybody else who's smart is also muffling their signals so that they're not on the map to everybody in the world.
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That just turns out to be a technology.
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Like, shh, be quiet.
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And so we got there listening, thinking that everyone's being loud and noisy when everyone's being stealthy and quiet.
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So what they do is whisper.
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And knowing what they're doing and where they are.
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That's just kind of more standard practice than it turns out to be now.
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No, that makes sense.
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Sure.
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I'll give it to him.
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Yeah.
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You have sound mufflers, radio signal mufflers.
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Yeah, talk soft.
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Great.
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How would a radio signal muffler work?
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I don't know.
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One that would have to be strong enough to reach Earth from Mars.
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And it would have to be selective enough that you could have the signals you do want coming in, coming in.
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Exactly.
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Otherwise, it would make communication between the bases impossible.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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I don't know.
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Furthermore, you would have to do it.
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But it's a technology that smart people use.
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Sorry, go ahead.
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No, that's a good point.
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Smarter people than I. Yeah, sure.
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I can't argue that.
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I don't know enough about radio waves to know whether or not you could hide one successfully from Mars.
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We weren't specially created in test tubes and implanted into our parents.
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That's true.
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So we don't know all these...
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Well, I mean, if you're figuring they've got super soldiers, right?
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That means they also must have created a super scientist as well.
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Of course.
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Like, you would have to do that.
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Why would you only create super soldiers?
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And they're the ones who are lying to us about climate change.
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Of course!
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They're too smart!
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You know what's fucked up?
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This is a three-hour interview that he did, and I don't have all that much.
► 01:15:08
I kept it mostly to the Mars stuff.
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Yeah.
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He believes in climate change.
► 01:15:14
Well, but that makes perfect sense.
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If we're getting off-planet, that means we've seen climate change coming since the Eisenhower years.
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We've got to get out of there.
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It's never totally clear.
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He doesn't really give any real reason that any of this stuff exists, though.
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The idea that it is a potential colony to move to or anything like that, he doesn't really speculate.
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Do you know why this stuff exists?
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Why?
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Because why not?
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Sure.
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Because it's there.
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Why do you explore the world, Dan?
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Because it's there.
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Right.
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I think the reason- Why do you build super soldiers to go to Mars and defend it against perhaps indigenous life?
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Because you gotta.
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I think the more likely thing is this guy had a little bit of a psychotic break, but he's still super functional.
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It could just be that he's- Super creative?
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Having a lot of fun.
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It could be.
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I mean, why would- Look.
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If I could sustain a three-hour interview of made-up bullshit with the most credulous woman in the world.
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You could.
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She is...
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Listening to her ask these questions is just like a complete like...
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Oh yeah, we called it this.
► 01:16:24
And you called it Radiant Guardian?
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Is that what you're saying?
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We called it Celestial Defense.
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This is a Solar Warden.
► 01:16:31
Yeah, yeah.
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And you're like...
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Well, if she believes it.
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It goes by a ton of different names.
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I guess that means she's in.
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She's all in.
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Oh, big time.
► 01:16:41
I love it.
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Big time.
► 01:16:42
I love her.
► 01:16:43
Yeah, so the next clip I have here discusses why you'd need super soldiers to go up there.
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Right.
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You've speculated a little bit.
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That is a good question.
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I do want to get to the bottom of that.
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All right, here we go.
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Right.
► 01:16:53
Okay, so when you were deployed on Mars, you were in essence...
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Based on your story, which I've listened extensively to, basically encountering, from what I understand, reptilian species and basically what sound like what Mark Richards, Captain Mark Richards of the Secret Space Program, who I've interviewed, would say are called trogs.
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That's what his experience is with them.
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You called them, I think, insectoids.
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Insectoids, yeah.
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There were certainly an insect-based species that had the ability to engineer other hive insects.
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Their way of building machines is genetically engineering another bug or another insect that will do that job.
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And so they have this very organic...
► 01:17:46
It's a very incredibly advanced organic science.
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It's really, really advanced organic science.
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I'll just call it that.
► 01:17:52
So your battle, though, was to, in a sense, there seemed like there was small battles, skirmishes, that you were defending the base that we have, just like here in, you know, if United States and Russia get into an issue, maybe over in Afghanistan, they're having a skirmish there.
► 01:18:11
So you were fighting over territory.
► 01:18:13
Is that correct?
► 01:18:15
Constantly.
► 01:18:16
And I think it's important to note and point out because I keep hearing people presume what that conflict was about or what we were fighting over and so I'm feeling more and more that I need to be really clear.
► 01:18:28
about why we were fighting and what we were fighting for.
► 01:18:32
It was not for a supremacy of the planet.
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It was not for a total global war of the planet until the draconians attacked and got involved, Goddammit, Draconians!
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about this lengthy war and what the stages were.
► 01:18:47
But we were having what I would call polite, civilized conflict really with the native reptoids and the native insectoids, I mean, a hard thing to say when you're still like, ah, you know, killing and stabbing and blowing each other up, but it was way more polite and civilized until the Draconians came along and really kind of messed up what was an organic system of territorial boundary keeping that was not meant to overrun somebody else's high or territory,
► 01:19:16
but simply to maintain that everyone had a certain weakness to them and no one could grow over strong so that everyone could maintain a peaceable territory without anyone actually trying This is the plot of StarCraft.
► 01:19:32
Word for word.
► 01:19:33
This is the plot of StarCraft.
► 01:19:36
and then overwhelming the other.
► 01:19:38
So it was a constant back and forth that was meant to maintain and stabilize the territory and the peace arrangement, believe it or not.
► 01:19:45
I know this may sound very strange to some people as a way of doing things, but...
► 01:19:49
Oh, oh, is that the thing that sounds strange?
► 01:19:51
It might sound strange.
► 01:19:53
Look, we were fighting not for supremacy until those fucking reptoids got involved.
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The draconians.
► 01:20:00
The draconians, I'm sorry.
► 01:20:01
The reptoids are ostensibly another local population that they're having skirmishes with.
► 01:20:06
Now, I'm a big fan of the insectoids on this one.
► 01:20:09
I want them winning, because if they need a job done, they just genetically engineer another insectoid.
► 01:20:16
A machine.
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To do that.
► 01:20:18
And it's an organic machine.
► 01:20:19
Sure.
► 01:20:20
Brilliant.
► 01:20:20
Great.
► 01:20:21
Brilliant insectoids in this one.
► 01:20:22
Thrilled for the insectoids.
► 01:20:23
I think they're doing a great job.
► 01:20:25
I don't understand why we can't have an alliance with the insectoids.
► 01:20:28
Exactly, right?
► 01:20:28
Learn some of that technology.
► 01:20:29
They seem to be the ones that we should join up with to defeat the draconians.
► 01:20:33
Bring an insectoid back here.
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Create all kinds of technology.
► 01:20:38
Solve a lot of our problems.
► 01:20:39
Pollution could be taken care of.
► 01:20:41
Right.
► 01:20:41
All sorts of shit.
► 01:20:42
If only the insectoids.
► 01:20:44
Engineer a bug to fix pollution.
► 01:20:45
So the draconians come in and they're shit kickers.
► 01:20:48
They just want to fuck everything up.
► 01:20:50
That's so draconian of them.
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Very much so.
► 01:20:54
This is very included in the entire mythology of the lizard people.
► 01:20:59
That sort of stuff, they're often referred to as draconians.
► 01:21:02
Right.
► 01:21:03
They're from Draco.
► 01:21:04
Dick Cheney.
► 01:21:05
Right.
► 01:21:06
So this dovetails into David Icke a little bit here with the lizard folk.
► 01:21:12
And you'll be thrilled to know that there was a massive war with the draconians.
► 01:21:16
Is it still going?
► 01:21:18
It's not.
► 01:21:18
There was peace reached.
► 01:21:19
Oh, good.
► 01:21:20
They found detente.
► 01:21:21
Good.
► 01:21:22
How did they do that?
► 01:21:23
I don't know.
► 01:21:24
He just said they found peace?
► 01:21:26
Yeah.
► 01:21:27
Well, I mean, you can't fight forever.
► 01:21:29
No, not even on Mars.
► 01:21:30
No.
► 01:21:31
It's a lot like a turf war in Afghanistan between Russia and the United States.
► 01:21:35
Sooner or later, you're going to get peace.
► 01:21:36
But I'm telling you this, Dan, just like that, just like that, conflict is right around the corner.
► 01:21:42
They're going to be fighting again.
► 01:21:43
I think what he's...
► 01:21:44
Sort of expressing is a little bit of an idea, and maybe a fanciful idea, about wars between Native American tribes before the white man came.
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Okay.
► 01:21:55
There is a little bit of that to what he's saying.
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No, no, no.
► 01:21:59
Now I see where you're going.
► 01:22:00
It's not for dominance.
► 01:22:01
It's for...
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I don't know enough...
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To protect yours.
► 01:22:04
I don't know enough about ancient Native American history, but I do think that if you also don't know a lot, you might speculate that...
► 01:22:12
That was how native warfare went back before.
► 01:22:16
And then the draconians would be the Europeans coming over and going for supremacy.
► 01:22:21
So maybe this is all an allegory.
► 01:22:23
Maybe he's trying to teach us about ourselves.
► 01:22:26
If that's the case, huzzah.
► 01:22:30
But also, I don't know if that's accurate.
► 01:22:35
No, it's not.
► 01:22:36
No, but I mean even the lesson.
► 01:22:37
I'm not sure if that's accurate.
► 01:22:39
Again, I don't know enough about old-time Native American history.
► 01:22:45
You know, they were people.
► 01:22:47
It feels right to me, that lesson.
► 01:22:49
But I don't know it to be true.
► 01:22:51
That's because of all of the stuff that we kind of idolize about the Native American tribes.
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Yeah, certainly.
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That, you know, like, we're living as one with the nature and all that stuff.
► 01:23:02
Use all the buffalo.
► 01:23:02
Yeah.
► 01:23:03
No, they were people.
► 01:23:04
They still fucking murdered each other left and right.
► 01:23:06
There were tribes that were driven extinct by other tribes.
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And assimilated.
► 01:23:11
There was slavery.
► 01:23:12
There was all that other stuff.
► 01:23:13
There's a lot of people who are against fiat currency and what have you who also make the argument that, like, Native Americans just used barter and had an economy.
► 01:23:21
Really, if you look at it, that's not an economy.
► 01:23:23
No, no, no.
► 01:23:23
They had an economy.
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They were sophisticated people.
► 01:23:26
Yeah.
► 01:23:27
It's a little redundant.
► 01:23:28
Again, the only reason that we won is not because we were so technologically superior.
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Because we were evil.
► 01:23:34
Well, there's that.
► 01:23:35
But also because the most Native American tribes were absolutely decimated.
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By disease before we ever even got here.
► 01:23:45
Right.
► 01:23:45
And they also were not helped by diseases that we brought.
► 01:23:48
Right.
► 01:23:48
No.
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We fucked them up.
► 01:23:50
We fucked them up.
► 01:23:51
But yeah.
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No.
► 01:23:52
They had one of the...
► 01:23:54
Archaeologists have found that they've had one of the largest cities in the world at the time.
► 01:24:00
And the Cahokia Mound?
► 01:24:02
Yeah.
► 01:24:02
Yeah.
► 01:24:03
Anyway.
► 01:24:04
This has been fun, but let's get back to crazy.
► 01:24:06
All right.
► 01:24:06
So you...
► 01:24:07
Have been giggling and laughing.
► 01:24:09
This has been a fucking delight for me.
► 01:24:11
You've been giggling every time he brings up the Mars Colony Corporation.
► 01:24:16
They're fucking awesome!
► 01:24:17
Yeah, it is a corporation.
► 01:24:19
Well, I mean, come on.
► 01:24:21
There's a lot of paperwork involved.
► 01:24:22
So it's for profit.
► 01:24:26
That's right!
► 01:24:27
I forgot!
► 01:24:28
They have to be selling something!
► 01:24:30
Yeah, they're selling condos on Mars.
► 01:24:33
So it is...
► 01:24:35
It's a business endeavor that is being protected by a Blackwater-esque group of super soldiers on Mars.
► 01:24:41
So if you want to really look at the long view, that's what's going on.
► 01:24:45
So in this next clip, Randy talks a little bit about the actual colonies themselves.
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And we were not really allowed to visit the colonies.
► 01:24:53
I've never been to them.
► 01:24:53
I've never seen them.
► 01:24:54
I don't even know what they exactly look like.
► 01:24:56
When you say the colonies, what colonies of who?
► 01:24:59
The Mars Colony Corporation colonies, which apparently they have five colonies.
► 01:25:04
The Mars Colony Corporation is a consortium of, you know, Earth-based banking, money people.
► 01:25:14
We're all participating in order to be part of the Mars Colony Corporation and to be part of the colonies and to be part of that genome project and the sort of, you know, future of whole civilization project as they like to think of themselves and call themselves in order to preserve humanity, etc., etc.
► 01:25:34
Dude, you shouldn't be so cynical about the Mars Colony Corporation.
► 01:25:37
You were not, in essence, you were guarding the colonies, but you were not based in the colonies?
► 01:25:41
Correct.
► 01:25:42
I have never seen the colonies, never even been close enough to them to tell you whether they're domed, underground, or what they look like.
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Being influenced by a warlike people.
► 01:25:56
You want them to be Pollyanna-ish.
► 01:25:58
It's sort of like the wall in Game of Thrones.
► 01:26:01
Like people who are born at the wall.
► 01:26:03
Right, right, right.
► 01:26:03
And haven't gone down to Winterfell or anything like that.
► 01:26:05
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 01:26:06
You don't want the people in Winterfell necessarily to know about the others.
► 01:26:10
No, of course.
► 01:26:11
You want them to feel safe.
► 01:26:12
Yeah, and you similarly don't want the people at the wall.
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Who maybe have no idea of other ways of life.
► 01:26:18
I mean, I know a lot of people were sent there as a penal thing.
► 01:26:21
Be that as it may, Game of Thrones coming back soon.
► 01:26:24
Very excited.
► 01:26:25
We're brought to you by Game of Thrones.
► 01:26:27
Yeah, I'm very excited.
► 01:26:28
Still will not pick up one of those goddamn books, even if my life depended on it.
► 01:26:33
Listen, one, three, and five are good.
► 01:26:36
Two and four are garbage.
► 01:26:38
Interesting trend there.
► 01:26:39
It just takes every other book off.
► 01:26:41
That's why I don't know why people are excited for Winds of Winter.
► 01:26:44
I'm excited for the seventh book, but fuck Winds of Winter.
► 01:26:47
It's going to be 10,000 pages long.
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It's going to be terrible.
► 01:26:49
I've got no time for it.
► 01:26:50
I've got to read Philip K. Dick stuff.
► 01:26:53
Anyway, this next...
► 01:26:55
Part of this clip, because at the beginning of the clip he's saying, I've never been to the colonies, I don't know what they look like, they might be domed, I have no idea.
► 01:27:04
Carrie Callahan comes back with a real nice rebuttal.
► 01:27:07
Oh, she's got some stuff.
► 01:27:08
She does.
► 01:27:09
I respect the fuck out of this answer, even though it's still crazy, but it's great.
► 01:27:14
I mean, is that even possible if you're fighting against...
► 01:27:19
I mean, was there, because my understanding, you know, and I know there was this huge battle at the end that actually, you know, impacted you, it appears in a very deep way, and then you actually got reassigned to the moon.
► 01:27:34
But prior to that, you're saying you weren't in the colonies, you didn't go there.
► 01:27:39
Is it possible that that's an area of your brain, you know, with all due respect, that's been erased?
► 01:27:46
That memory.
► 01:27:48
Holy shit, Kerry!
► 01:27:50
Memories that I haven't extracted, but I find that unlikely at this point since I feel that I've done a pretty solid extraction of pretty much everything, like all the chunks that would be a chunk here, a chunk there, a chunk there, and so that would be a missing chunk that I'm...
► 01:28:04
It's unlikely that I haven't found that.
► 01:28:08
Aw, rats.
► 01:28:10
See, now that makes me believe Carrie's right all the more.
► 01:28:14
Really?
► 01:28:15
Well, look, if you...
► 01:28:17
Well, but I mean, it's a self-defining system.
► 01:28:19
It's like, oh, you don't remember that?
► 01:28:20
That's clear because you don't have that part of your memory.
► 01:28:22
Right, right.
► 01:28:22
But his denial of that, like, if he was making this up, he would have been like, no, you're right.
► 01:28:29
He would have yes-anded her.
► 01:28:31
He would have been like, maybe that's possible.
► 01:28:33
That's bullshit, because even in his denial, he's accepting it as a possibility.
► 01:28:37
Right.
► 01:28:37
If he had said, absolutely not, I've done all the searching that's possible in my memory, I've been cleared, I know everything.
► 01:28:46
Absolutely not.
► 01:28:47
That would be more respectable because that is an outright denial.
► 01:28:50
This still allows him to later be like, oh shit, I do remember the colonies.
► 01:28:54
Hey, now, however, if you're dealing with somebody who's in early stages of dementia or Alzheimer's, then you will see them occasionally have those moments of lucidity, and if you ask them questions about their memories, they will most likely be like, um, I mean...
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I don't—it could be, but I don't think so.
► 01:29:15
It's very unlikely because— They feel like they're in control of their memories.
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They're not aware of their own...
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So maybe he has some sort of early-onset Alzheimer's.
► 01:29:25
Well, what else would you get after you've had your memory wiped so many different times?
► 01:29:28
We don't actually know how many times his memory's been wiped.
► 01:29:30
Well, but we do know that he's constantly trying to get as much of it back, so you gotta lose some while you're trying to get it back right there.
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Like, you can't restore all of a hard drive.
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You're gonna still get some artifacts if you got it.
► 01:29:42
You know, wiped.
► 01:29:43
You gotta ask yourself, too, how is he going about recovering this memory?
► 01:29:47
Obviously it's just talking to other crazy people.
► 01:29:49
Is that?
► 01:29:50
I think.
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Because I feel like he's giving me the idea of a machine or hypnosis or something like that.
► 01:29:58
I think maybe hypnosis, maybe regression stuff.
► 01:30:01
Right, right.
► 01:30:02
Or weird crystal therapies.
► 01:30:04
We'll get to some of his science a little bit later.
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I mean, they would have to be moon crystals, of course.
► 01:30:08
No, Mars crystals.
► 01:30:09
Mars crystals.
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There's too much sodium.
► 01:30:14
Not enough deep earth iodine.
► 01:30:16
Randy was a hero.
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On Mars.
► 01:30:18
Oh, he was!
► 01:30:19
He served valiantly for 17 years and then was in this big war with the Draconians and ended up becoming a pilot on the moon for the last three years of his tour.
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Yeah, Cary did say that there was a big battle and he had to be reassigned.
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They don't really get into much of it.
► 01:30:32
He had to go infiltrate a Draconian base or something like that and recover something.
► 01:30:38
Now, it's a little bit suspicious to me that these guys are always the hero.
► 01:30:43
Of course.
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There's no...
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Okay, I was on Mars for 17 years.
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I ran away from everything.
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I lied to people.
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I saw an insectoid.
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I pissed my pants.
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I changed my name four different times because four of my friends died and they were going to get rid of me, so I was like, well, now I'm this dude.
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I'm genetically engineered to be a super soldier, so who the fuck cares?
► 01:31:06
I'm the greatest.
► 01:31:07
I'm too expensive for them to get rid of.
► 01:31:09
Yeah.
► 01:31:09
We'll actually get into...
► 01:31:11
Some other weird stuff about the end battle.
► 01:31:16
Everything is so crazy.
► 01:31:18
Everything is absolutely crazy.
► 01:31:19
So this next clip is sort of about the end of his time on Mars.
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The end of his 20-year tour of duty.
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And he very neatly ties up some loose ends.
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Actually, let's get that set.
► 01:31:33
What year did you return to Earth?
► 01:31:39
Technically, I finished my tour in 2007, but then was returned 15 minutes after I left on November, the morning of November the 18th, 1987, at 2.45 or 3 o 'clock in the morning or whatever it was.
► 01:31:52
Okay, so technically you were here, at least in this 3D reality, in 1987.
► 01:31:58
Oh, absolutely.
► 01:31:59
And then, like I said, no, and then...
► 01:32:01
Did the mission for 20 years, and then they told us to do an age-reversing thing, which I don't think was really anything more than putting my consciousness into a younger clone body, which was just more efficient.
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So I wake up and think I'm still 17 with repressed memories.
► 01:32:15
Yes!
► 01:32:16
Yes!
► 01:32:17
So the body you're occupying now is a clone?
► 01:32:22
Probably from the original one, yeah.
► 01:32:24
But the original one, I mean, it's been blown apart 20 billion times and it's been rebuilt a bunch of times, too.
► 01:32:31
My original body wasn't my original for a long, long time because all the parts had been replaced at least one point or another.
► 01:32:38
Now that's a good question.
► 01:32:40
That's not really a question.
► 01:32:41
So, you've got this guy.
► 01:32:43
You replace one body part.
► 01:32:45
He's still the same guy.
► 01:32:47
But if you replace all of his body parts...
► 01:32:49
Is he still the same guy?
► 01:32:51
Well, he actually does explain it.
► 01:32:53
I didn't keep this clip in, but he explains that there's a connection in your brain, the electrical impulses in your brain, connecting to your soul.
► 01:33:01
Oh, we're getting into souls now?
► 01:33:03
Oh, souls are in play.
► 01:33:04
I feel like souls shouldn't be in play in this one.
► 01:33:06
As long as there's that connection between your brain and your soul, they can just recover and take your brain and put it in a clone body.
► 01:33:13
Right.
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And everything's fine.
► 01:33:14
But if that is severed, that connection between your brain and your soul, then you're like a car.
► 01:33:20
See, this is bad writing.
► 01:33:35
Yes.
► 01:33:35
I agree.
► 01:33:36
No, no.
► 01:33:37
I agree.
► 01:33:38
Not in that regard.
► 01:33:39
I'm just saying that this has the ending of This Was All a Dream.
► 01:33:44
No shit.
► 01:33:44
It invalidates the whole thing.
► 01:33:46
If you're bringing him back to 15 minutes, which, again, that I still believe.
► 01:33:51
Yeah.
► 01:33:51
Everything is 15 minutes.
► 01:33:52
Yeah, of course.
► 01:33:53
You brought 15 minutes back.
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After you've already left.
► 01:33:56
But you're still in your 20 years later body.
► 01:34:01
Yeah.
► 01:34:01
So what they do is they...
► 01:34:03
Kill your old self?
► 01:34:04
Right.
► 01:34:05
And then put you into a clone of your younger self.
► 01:34:09
Well, I guess if you left at, like, what did you say, like 2 in the morning?
► 01:34:14
Yeah, 2.30 in the morning.
► 01:34:15
2.30 in the morning.
► 01:34:16
Oh, I'm keeping detailed notes.
► 01:34:17
These are the most detailed notes I've kept in weeks.
► 01:34:20
So at 2.33 in the morning, there is nobody in his bed.
► 01:34:23
Right.
► 01:34:24
As it were.
► 01:34:24
So at 245, you do bring back, so you shank the old body.
► 01:34:30
Right, that's what you have to do.
► 01:34:31
Put him in a younger clone that is exactly the same, and no one would notice.
► 01:34:36
Exactly.
► 01:34:37
It has to have the exact same facial hair configuration.
► 01:34:40
This clone would have had to been raised up to the point of 17 years.
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Under the same circumstances.
► 01:34:46
And you would have had to time it exactly.
► 01:34:48
Oh, and I guess because time travel's real, you could just go ahead and time travel the body to the right point.
► 01:34:54
So that's taken care of.
► 01:34:55
Right.
► 01:34:56
But yeah, you would have to kill the old body, transfer the consciousness, put it back.
► 01:35:01
And they are lying to you saying that they're actually making you younger.
► 01:35:05
Right.
► 01:35:06
And he's like...
► 01:35:07
These fuckers probably just put me into a younger clone.
► 01:35:11
Right, instead of age regressing.
► 01:35:12
Yeah, they didn't actually make me younger at all.
► 01:35:15
Which that technology certainly exists.
► 01:35:17
Age regression technology.
► 01:35:19
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 01:35:19
So then the other issue is his whole idea that he said at the beginning was the contract that he signed was you get a job at the end of it.
► 01:35:27
Yeah, you get an awesome job.
► 01:35:28
No, you end up with your brain in a clone and you don't have a job.
► 01:35:31
You're 17. Right back where you started.
► 01:35:33
You're not even old enough to drink.
► 01:35:34
Right.
► 01:35:35
And they've erased your memory, so you shouldn't know about any of this, but he's got a little bit of regression therapy going on.
► 01:35:41
It's entirely possible that all of us did this.
► 01:35:45
Whoa.
► 01:35:46
Dan.
► 01:35:47
This could be like the Israeli army.
► 01:35:48
This could be the Israeli Defense Force.
► 01:35:50
Yeah.
► 01:35:50
That's where the IDF is.
► 01:35:52
IDF is part of EDF.
► 01:35:55
EDF has your MDFs, both Moon and Mars.
► 01:35:59
Right.
► 01:36:01
It all makes sense.
► 01:36:02
Totally makes sense.
► 01:36:03
It all makes sense.
► 01:36:04
So we have a couple clips left as sort of a coda to the entire experience.
► 01:36:09
Carrie asks him how things are going on Mars now.
► 01:36:12
God, I love Carrie!
► 01:36:13
I love Carrie so much!
► 01:36:15
You wouldn't if you listened to the full things.
► 01:36:18
Oh, no, no, no.
► 01:36:19
Of course not.
► 01:36:19
But I love her right now.
► 01:36:20
She wants to know what's going on there and he has an interesting answer that reveals a little bit.
► 01:36:25
Do you know, for example, that the reptilians have been completely subdued or the insectoids have been subdued or neither one of them or the skirmishes are still ongoing?
► 01:36:33
Do you know that kind of information?
► 01:36:35
Do you have ongoing intel or are you completely detached at this time such that you don't get any updates?
► 01:36:43
Well, I can certainly tell you that the last time that I was on the moon was in 2007.
► 01:36:48
I remember the closing ceremonies that they had for the returning EDF officers.
► 01:36:52
And I can tell you what it looked like then, but that was seven years ago.
► 01:36:57
That was a huge thing that I hated.
► 01:36:58
I don't know what they've changed about Luna Operations Command.
► 01:37:01
Certainly can't tell you what has happened on Mars since a few years before that, since the last time I was there.
► 01:37:09
Now, I do get regular intelligence reports, weekly intelligence briefs from the Brigadier.
► 01:37:13
We have conversations on a very regular basis.
► 01:37:16
So I feel like what I know, I have to trust that my people are telling me the truth on.
► 01:37:22
And there are certain things, sure, I can use my own abilities and I can remote view things and I can test things psionically if I need to use whatever it is.
► 01:37:30
What?
► 01:37:31
Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
► 01:37:32
We're getting into psionics now?
► 01:37:34
Oh yeah, he's psychic.
► 01:37:36
He's got psionic abilities now as well.
► 01:37:38
And he can remote view things.
► 01:37:40
Yeah, absolutely.
► 01:37:41
So I know that you're very excited about the Brigadier.
► 01:37:43
I'm a big fan of the Brigadier.
► 01:37:45
I don't need to know anything about the Brigadier.
► 01:37:47
The fact that there is a Brigadier, period, is my favorite.
► 01:37:50
We're going to learn a little bit more about him in the future.
► 01:37:52
Excellent!
► 01:37:53
But so what he's saying is he gets weekly updates.
► 01:37:56
Yeah.
► 01:37:56
Like briefings.
► 01:37:57
Weekly intelligence briefings.
► 01:37:58
Which seems like it would be outside of the purview of this organization that wiped his mind.
► 01:38:03
And probably doesn't want him to be remembering these things.
► 01:38:07
Does he have people on the inside?
► 01:38:08
He must have people on the inside.
► 01:38:10
Well, the brigadier.
► 01:38:10
The brigadier is the man on the inside.
► 01:38:12
The brigadier is our middleman.
► 01:38:13
But so here's the thing as he tells it.
► 01:38:16
He has clearance, and they have requested that he make this information public.
► 01:38:23
The army, the secret programs that he was in, the reason that it's fine for him to be talking about these secret programs is that they requested that he start to disseminate the information because they want to get the public ready for this stuff.
► 01:38:36
Okay.
► 01:38:36
So he is like the tip of the spear in terms of exposure.
► 01:38:39
So he's coming out to the crazies right now.
► 01:38:43
Yeah.
► 01:38:43
And then there'll be...
► 01:38:44
A steady trickle of more of these coming out until we get them into the mainstream.
► 01:38:50
On knowledge fight.
► 01:38:51
Then finally, when they're in the mainstream, they'll declassify all of this stuff.
► 01:38:57
And we'll all have already been kind of prepared.
► 01:39:01
And we'll have insectoid technologies.
► 01:39:03
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 01:39:03
Now, here's my next question.
► 01:39:05
Okay.
► 01:39:06
To this man, who unfortunately is not here with us today.
► 01:39:09
No.
► 01:39:10
Although, I bet he would call in.
► 01:39:12
God!
► 01:39:13
Oh, now I want...
► 01:39:14
I'm gonna guess that anybody who's been on Project Camelot would call us.
► 01:39:18
Would probably still have a conversation here?
► 01:39:20
Yeah.
► 01:39:20
Alright.
► 01:39:21
So, he returned from 2007.
► 01:39:26
Now, how can he be certain that the 2007 that he lived through is the same 2007 that we lived through?
► 01:39:35
I don't know, man.
► 01:39:36
I'm tired.
► 01:39:38
Come on.
► 01:39:39
I'm tired of trying to...
► 01:39:40
I'm enjoying this so much.
► 01:39:42
And I feel like...
► 01:39:43
It's very difficult and exhausting to try and wrap your head around, like...
► 01:39:47
Oh, it is not.
► 01:39:48
This nonsense.
► 01:39:49
It is so easy.
► 01:39:50
But yeah, of course.
► 01:39:51
I mean, just his presence...
► 01:39:52
I have been preparing for this my entire life.
► 01:39:54
I've read and watched so much science fiction.
► 01:39:56
Well, just his presence on Earth makes it a different future than the 2007, than he experienced originally.
► 01:40:04
Right.
► 01:40:04
Because he's influencing two space times at the same time.
► 01:40:09
So that's one issue.
► 01:40:10
So that begs the question, while he was on the moon in 2007, was there the other him that exists now?
► 01:40:21
Oh, it would have to be.
► 01:40:23
Simultaneously.
► 01:40:24
It would have to be.
► 01:40:24
Right.
► 01:40:25
In terms of time streams.
► 01:40:26
Yeah, that would be the only way to deal with it.
► 01:40:27
So then the other thing that we gotta sort of wrestle with is, and this is what I can't find evidence of, was he ever in the military in real life?
► 01:40:37
Or is all of his service...
► 01:40:39
This other time stream where his clone came back 15 minutes later.
► 01:40:43
Right, right, right.
► 01:40:44
Well, how could you put him in the military?
► 01:40:47
Right?
► 01:40:48
He was raised in the military.
► 01:40:51
And he is a U.S. Marine in the sense that it's the people who trained him?
► 01:41:01
Were they Marines?
► 01:41:02
Do you mean back when he was like 13?
► 01:41:04
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 01:41:04
Exactly.
► 01:41:05
I guess.
► 01:41:06
Because how would he get a gig in the military for real?
► 01:41:10
I don't know.
► 01:41:11
You know, they would have to look him up unless they didn't look him up, unless they specifically go out of their way to avoid keeping tags on these people.
► 01:41:19
So in Fantasyland versus Real World.
► 01:41:21
Yes.
► 01:41:22
In Real World, he wouldn't be able to get into the military because...
► 01:41:26
Of the Fantasyland.
► 01:41:27
Well, because of the Fantasyland contract that exists.
► 01:41:29
Oh, there we go!
► 01:41:30
That's what it is.
► 01:41:31
The army would be able to see, oh shit, he's a clone of this time-traveling super soldier that we sent over.
► 01:41:37
Also, is the clone a super soldier?
► 01:41:39
Is it only in the brain?
► 01:41:41
Or what's going on there?
► 01:41:43
Well, it's...
► 01:41:44
Fully genetic.
► 01:41:45
I mean, otherwise, how would he get these psionic powers?
► 01:41:47
That's true.
► 01:41:48
So that has to have some kind of physical correlation.
► 01:41:50
Well, that's not true.
► 01:41:51
A lot of these people believe that everybody can remote view and shit like that.
► 01:41:56
Okay.
► 01:41:56
All right, that's possible.
► 01:41:57
That's not necessarily a superpower as much as it is just some elevated human potential.
► 01:42:04
But if we are dealing with clones, then you genetically engineer the original, but you build the clones from the...
► 01:42:13
From the pre-genetic engineering, right?
► 01:42:15
Right.
► 01:42:16
I guess that's how you would do it.
► 01:42:18
Yeah, so if you're removing his embryo first, right?
► 01:42:24
You save part of it to clone.
► 01:42:26
You genetically engineer the other one that you need, the super soldier.
► 01:42:30
You use the super soldier.
► 01:42:32
This is exhausting.
► 01:42:33
Then when the super soldier comes back, you kill the super soldier.
► 01:42:36
Put his brain and his soul into the regular body.
► 01:42:39
This is really dicey though, because then you've got to make a sort of habit of killing super soldiers.
► 01:42:44
If you're creating super soldiers, you're fine with killing them.
► 01:42:48
No, but I mean it would be difficult.
► 01:42:49
They're super soldiers.
► 01:42:51
No, no, no, but that's the thing.
► 01:42:53
I've seen the board identity.
► 01:42:55
They trust you implicitly.
► 01:42:56
You're right.
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This is fucking stupid.
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I did not expect this to go two hours.
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This is bizarre.
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How did you not?
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You saw me.
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You had no idea.
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This is my element, man.
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I legitimately thought there was a potential that you'd be like, what are we doing?
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No.
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Okay.
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No, good God, no.
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I'm way in.
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Well, we've got the rest of this clip and one more to listen to before we're out.
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You know, I'm also a military officer.
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When I can grab it with my hand, then it's very, very real to me.
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And if I can't pick it up with my hand and I can't stab it, then it has a certain amount of less solidity to me.
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So I presume that I'm being told the truth at the moment because I have no reason to doubt that.
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I have every reason to believe that my chain of command and my superiors want to help this process and want this process to be successful.
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And it provided a lot of information to me that has been honest and truthful and helpful to other folks as well.
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So he has this chain of command that is telling him what's going on on Mars now, and he's getting these updates.
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This is very...
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I don't like that at all.
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Why?
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Because he's already established that they've been lying to him multiple times.
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Well, they lied to him about the job.
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Right.
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They lied to him about a whole bunch of stuff.
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They killed him?
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They didn't age regress him.
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They put him in a clone.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Why would you assume they were telling you the truth?
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I don't know.
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He is a...
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I mean, that's just...
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You should have a much healthier skepticism.
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Especially when you are considering that you have the ability to use psionics and you can remote view things.
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Exactly.
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Yeah.
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So you were asking about the Brigadier.
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Yes.
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And here is where he explains the situation.
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And before he does, I'd like to posit my theory.
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Okay.
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He's talking to a crazy person.
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That's my theory.
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All right.
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Now let's see what he says.
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Let's see if you agree with me or him.
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Okay, now you've called him a brigadier, and have you named him by name?
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I've seen some names, so I don't know if there's specifically that person.
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He goes by the name of Brigadier General Julian Smythe.
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I can tell you that there's the names on his driver's license when he goes home at night, and there's a name on his driver's license when he goes to work every day, and they're not necessarily the same thing.
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So when I say that his name is Brigadier General Julian Smythe, that's how I know him and that's how we know him at USMCSS.
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But that doesn't mean that that's the name on his cable bill that comes to his high school.
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So it's a pseudonym.
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USMCSS?
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United States Marine Corps Super Soldier.
► 01:45:24
Probably, yeah.
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Done.
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I would assume that's what it stands for.
► 01:45:27
Nailed it.
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So that's why he's a Marine, because that's part of the Super Soldier program.
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Right, but that's in Fantasyland timeline.
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In the real world timeline, if we allow for Occam's Razor to come into play, he just slept through the night of November 18th.
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And woke up fucked up.
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Or he, you know, did some drugs, maybe had some false memories.
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If you go to, like, hypnotherapy, if you don't see a very credible person, if you are not careful about it...
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It's very easy to implant false memories in people.
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Well, that's how during the satanic panic, two people were put in jail for life for crimes that did not even happen.
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Yep.
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So that's interesting.
► 01:46:14
It happens very frequently.
► 01:46:14
Yeah.
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And so my theory would be that that is what happened.
► 01:46:18
He has false memories, and he's turned them into a very robust narrative that is fun and entertaining, and that that Fantasyland timeline where he was a super soldier did not exist.
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He has found other people through the internet who agree with him and have their own fantasy narratives that they've decided to work together and combine and reinforce each other.
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One of them is a Brigadier General who has a fake name.
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Brigadier General Julian Smythe.
► 01:46:45
Yeah.
► 01:46:45
Which is a...
► 01:46:46
Great fake name.
► 01:46:47
It's not bad.
► 01:46:48
That's a good fake name.
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So I'm guessing that he's getting these briefings and all these data dumps to him that are just some other guy reinforcing his narrative, informing him of like, oh yeah, things are great on Mars.
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It's wonderful.
► 01:47:03
It snowed the other day.
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That's sort of where my brain is.
► 01:47:07
I like it.
► 01:47:07
I don't know if you're different than that, but that's where I'm at.
► 01:47:10
I like it.
► 01:47:13
I will say this.
► 01:47:16
I would prefer to discover exactly when he got his first memory regression.
► 01:47:24
Yeah.
► 01:47:25
That's what I would like to know.
► 01:47:26
I don't know if I'm aware of that.
► 01:47:29
I don't know.
► 01:47:29
I'm not going to do too much more digging on him.
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But I will tell you this.
► 01:47:35
I did do some digging on him.
► 01:47:37
Good.
► 01:47:37
I knew you would.
► 01:47:39
And like I said, I can't find evidence that he was actually in the military in real life timeline.
► 01:47:45
I did find a GoFundMe that he started on February 13th of this year.
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Randy Kramer has created a GoFundMe looking for $70,000.
► 01:47:58
Okay.
► 01:47:58
You might be asking, what's that?
► 01:47:59
That's a new car.
► 01:48:02
And you might be asking, what the fuck is he trying to do?
► 01:48:05
I'll tell you what he's trying to do.
► 01:48:06
He's trying to create holographic regenerating medical beds.
► 01:48:12
Wait, why do you need the holograph?
► 01:48:14
Let me read you.
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Just get a regenerating medical bed.
► 01:48:16
Let me read you.
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Don't overcomplicate it.
► 01:48:19
Keep it simple.
► 01:48:20
In Randy's heroic efforts to help research and develop Earth's first holographic regenerating med beds, his funds are running low.
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To continue his awesome endeavor, he needs your help.
► 01:48:30
This $70,000 goal will help bridge the gap.
► 01:48:33
Once Captain Randy Kramer has these funds, his mission, sanctioned by the Brigadier General, Perfect.
► 01:48:50
Perfect.
► 01:49:06
Cure all diseases, including cancer.
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Three, age regress an older body to a younger body.
► 01:49:12
Four, allow us to live much longer, to have fun, and contribute more.
► 01:49:17
All good!
► 01:49:17
These funds are needed right now!
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All caps.
► 01:49:21
These funds go directly and only to independent field commander Randy Kramer.
► 01:49:26
The sooner we can reach this goal, the sooner we can all get access to these amazing Elysium-style holographic regenerating med beds.
► 01:49:35
Quoting Captain Randy Kramer.
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Holographic regenerating med beds.
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This technology.
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Cheaper.
► 01:49:40
Faster.
► 01:49:41
Less invasive.
► 01:49:42
Less traumatic.
► 01:49:43
It just works better.
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Costs less money.
► 01:49:46
Cures everything.
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Everything.
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Blindness.
► 01:49:50
Deafness.
► 01:49:50
Limbs that are damaged.
► 01:49:52
Limbs that are gone.
► 01:49:53
Organs that are damaged.
► 01:49:54
Neurological diseases.
► 01:49:55
I love this infomercial.
► 01:49:56
Genetic disorders.
► 01:49:57
Why is this?
► 01:49:58
Look.
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Fuck.
► 01:50:00
The, uh, the, the, what's it called?
► 01:50:03
Shamwow?
► 01:50:03
Yeah.
► 01:50:04
Give me a holographic regenerating medbed.
► 01:50:09
Regrowing limbs!
► 01:50:10
It would absolutely fix and cure every single thing.
► 01:50:13
Even the things that our modern science can't.
► 01:50:16
Not only can you fix everything, cellular regeneration for life extension is not that even complicated.
► 01:50:21
We're very excited about that.
► 01:50:23
It's not even complicated?
► 01:50:24
Not complicated.
► 01:50:25
Oh, well then why do you need 70 grand?
► 01:50:27
Any contribution, large or small, though large was capitalized.
► 01:50:30
Large was all caps.
► 01:50:31
Oh yeah, I could hear it.
► 01:50:32
To this $70,000 goal will be greatly appreciated by all of Earth's life forms, now and in the future.
► 01:50:39
Especially the folks who are amputees right now, and those who are in pain and dying of so-called incurable diseases.
► 01:50:45
This is a way you can be a people's champion.
► 01:50:47
You can be like The Rock.
► 01:50:49
This is a way you can peacefully fight for our right to live and be healthy by funding this super soldier, space pilot, modern day hero.
► 01:50:57
This one small action may one day save your life or the lives of your family, friends, or community.
► 01:51:03
We all sincerely thank you for whatever size contribution you make to this historic campaign.
► 01:51:08
The future of medicine is here now, knocking at our door.
► 01:51:11
Thank you for your time and attention.
► 01:51:13
Much love and respect.
► 01:51:14
Viva la liberta.
► 01:51:16
Can you psychically interact with what the rock is cooking?
► 01:51:22
Holograms.
► 01:51:22
Why do you need holograms?
► 01:51:23
Why does it need to be holographic?
► 01:51:25
I don't know.
► 01:51:26
Also, he's going to need a whole lot more than 70 grand.
► 01:51:29
He might need an edit on that.
► 01:51:30
He's going to need a lot more than 70 grand.
► 01:51:31
He might also need an edit on that copy.
► 01:51:33
Maybe a little bit.
► 01:51:34
So, this was started in February.
► 01:51:37
He's going to create things that will regrow limbs, cure cancer, cure everything in the world.
► 01:51:42
This is the most important thing in human history.
► 01:51:44
How much money he's gotten in donations?
► 01:51:47
$600.
► 01:51:48
$487.
► 01:51:52
Going to need to lean on your family a little bit more there, bro.
► 01:51:56
So, I mean, he did brief his parents, so that's good.
► 01:52:00
That is good.
► 01:52:01
But...
► 01:52:01
So this brings us to the end of our exploration of Randy Kramer.
► 01:52:06
And it's interesting because this holographic regenerative med bed is very much the sort of stuff that Alex Jones talks about.
► 01:52:13
He talks about the life extension technology.
► 01:52:16
That the globalists have that they don't want us to have.
► 01:52:19
Oh, shit!
► 01:52:19
Are you tying this together with a theme that somehow relates it back to Alex Jones?
► 01:52:23
I am.
► 01:52:24
God damn it, Dan!
► 01:52:25
You're so good at this!
► 01:52:26
So, that GoFundMe is kind of...
► 01:52:28
Because Alex is never specific about the kind of life extension technologies that they have, because why would he be?
► 01:52:34
He doesn't want to be nailed down.
► 01:52:35
Of course not.
► 01:52:35
But this is an example of something that a crazy person is promoting on the internet.
► 01:52:39
Yeah.
► 01:52:39
And so maybe Alex is talking about the exact same things, but wouldn't want to be clear about it, because then you get mocked.
► 01:52:45
Right.
► 01:52:46
So, that's one similarity.
► 01:52:48
And then, Alex is allowing a guy like Steel, Mr. Steel, to come on his show and unspecifically talk about Mars bases.
► 01:52:56
Well, we've just explained another prominent figure in the world of weirdos on the internet who are, you know, issuing knowledge of Mars bases.
► 01:53:07
So, enjoy.
► 01:53:09
Dan?
► 01:53:11
There's been a lot of torturing of me that you've done.
► 01:53:14
That's true.
► 01:53:16
This almost feels like you're like, listen, Jordan is running out of gas.
► 01:53:22
We gotta throw him a bone.
► 01:53:23
Which makes me suspect this next episode that we do is going to be fucking horrific.
► 01:53:28
No, this is more of a...
► 01:53:30
If that were what I subconsciously was doing, it's more like, hey, you made it through David Duke.
► 01:53:35
Here's this.
► 01:53:36
So there's that.
► 01:53:37
You gave me a treat.
► 01:53:38
You gave me a treat!
► 01:53:39
That's not really...
► 01:53:40
I mean, that wasn't my primary motivation.
► 01:53:41
Though I'm glad it did turn out that way.
► 01:53:43
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► 01:54:17
Dan.
► 01:54:18
We'll send that money towards our investigation of secret space programs.
► 01:54:23
Dan, here's the thing.
► 01:54:24
Yeah.
► 01:54:25
It's kind of tragic that his original genetically engineered body is dead.
► 01:54:31
Let me skip through this bit.
► 01:54:33
John Rappaport was on the show on Thursday.
► 01:54:35
Okay.
► 01:54:36
And he was just saying the exact same things he said in the episode that we covered of him.
► 01:54:41
The exact same things?
► 01:54:42
He spent like 40 minutes talking about how the DSM-4 doesn't have any blood tests in it.
► 01:54:48
Oh no.
► 01:54:48
And stuff like that.
► 01:54:49
So he's just like, psychiatric medicine!
► 01:54:53
It isn't real!
► 01:54:54
So maybe he's just a hologram and the real Rappaport...
► 01:55:00
Is fucking dead!
► 01:55:01
Fuck you, John Rappaport.
► 01:55:04
That's the new sign-off.
► 01:55:05
Fuck you, John Rappaport.
► 01:55:07
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
► 01:55:08
Thanks for holding.
► 01:55:11
Hello, Alex.
► 01:55:12
I'm a first-time caller.
► 01:55:13
I'm a huge fan.
► 01:55:13
I love your work.