Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on The Alex Jones Show on June 12th. Topics covered include: Dan's hypothetical plan for an interview with Alex Jones How desperate is Alex to do preemptive damage control about Megyn Kelly? Does Jerome Corsi have huge Seth Rich news? (he doesn't)
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Alex, I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages. | ||
| Which this episode has none because I am a complete and utter failure. | ||
| By the grace of God, Jordan forgot the coconut juice he was going to bring over. | ||
| I had bought coconut juice. | ||
| And I am so grateful that you forgot it because that would be disgusting. | ||
| Oh, you have no idea. | ||
| There are little chunks of coconut in it. | ||
| I think it's just water with little chunks of coconut. | ||
| I'm dreading that two episodes. | ||
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It would have been nightmarish. | |
| Beyond that, though, we talk about Alex Jones. | ||
| Oh, we do do that! | ||
| That's the main thing we do. | ||
| Yeah, I forgot about that part. | ||
| I focus too much on coconut juice now. | ||
| We can do the show without the novelty drinks. | ||
| We cannot do the show without talking about Alex Jones. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| This isn't just any Alex Jones podcast. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| This is not your granddaddy's Alex Jones podcast. | ||
| I don't know what that would entail. | ||
| I don't know either. | ||
| But anyway, I know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| I don't know anything about Alex Jones. | ||
| And then we sort of meet in the middle and have a conversation about what the fuck is wrong with that guy. | ||
| That sounds like a good plan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I like that podcast. | ||
| We're going to implement it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Today we're going to be going over, Jordan. | ||
| What? | ||
| Is Monday. | ||
| Monday, Monday, June 12th, 2017. | ||
| This Monday. | ||
| And it's sort of the culmination of the last, let's say, four days, five days on his show, where he has been in preemptive damage control about the Megyn Kelly interview that's coming out on Sunday. | ||
| Boy, that seems like a very obvious, like... | ||
| There's some damage that needs to be controlled there. | ||
| Oh, big time. | ||
| And he's gone overboard, attacking Chelsea Clinton quite a bit. | ||
| How is Chelsea Clinton involved? | ||
| Because she got involved. | ||
| She started talking about how Megyn Kelly shouldn't have had Alex Jones on the show. | ||
| You know, there's a lot of people who have been going around on Twitter and saying that she should not be giving him a platform. | ||
| Absolutely a valid point. | ||
| I don't disagree with it to some extent, but that's not the bridge we have to cross now. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because that work is done. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The interview has been done, and it's going to air, barring some sort of crazy sponsor pullout. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we can't... | ||
| Which I'm assuming Alex Jones is somehow lobbying those sponsors right now. | ||
| He is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He has gone on Twitter and said like, oh, JP Morgan, you're not advertising? | ||
| Oh, for real? | ||
| He actually has done that? | ||
| Yeah, he's like, let's call it off. | ||
| Let's shelve this thing. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| Because he wants it fucking shelved. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That's a win-win for him. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| No matter what happens, he wins, except for if one... | ||
| He gets the attention that he wants from the liberal Twitter sphere going like... | ||
| Don't put this maniac on there, which makes his followers even more maniacal in their support for him. | ||
| And whenever you have people like the sponsors pulling, because he doesn't have sponsors that can pull out, really. | ||
| So he doesn't have that concern, so when you introduce him into the world where sponsors do have a say, you then turn it into a thing where you're like, oh, sponsors are pulling out. | ||
| That's right, because I'm so dangerous. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Everything plays into his hands, except for one very specific thing that I'll be laying out over the course of this episode. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because this is, in essence, the third installment of our How Not to Cover Alex Jones. | ||
| Our ongoing series that will continue until he's penniless. | ||
| It's so fascinating to me, the idea that everybody's like, don't give this guy a platform. | ||
| Yet everybody's talking about him! | ||
| Right. | ||
| Do you not understand the issue there? | ||
| You're just giving him a platform! | ||
| Right. | ||
| And attacking him in hacky and mundane ways are playing into his hands intensely. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I sat down the other night and I tried to write a Twitter thread about how this is a major opportunity. | ||
| And if people really want to make headway against Alex Jones... | ||
| There is a path we can proceed down. | ||
| But no one is doing it. | ||
| It's hard. | ||
| Everyone is just getting mad about Sandy Hook. | ||
| And I understand why. | ||
| It's horrible. | ||
| We've covered it extensively. | ||
| I think I've done my share of yelling. | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| His denial of the death of those 20 children is monstrous. | ||
| It's uncautionable. | ||
| And the damage it's done to their families. | ||
| Perhaps. | ||
| I mean, there was just a story that came out the other day of a lady who basically was giving death threats to one of the children's parents. | ||
| And she went to jail. | ||
| And she got probation that included, you can't listen to Alex Jones. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Yeah, that was in the article. | ||
| God! | ||
| A condition of her probation, or her release, was that she can't listen to Infowars. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Court-ordered deprogramming of a cult member. | ||
| Yeah, to an extent. | ||
| So all that is awful, and I get why people want to focus on that. | ||
| But even in that scenario, even in that tiny kernel, there's something so much more important that we need to... | ||
| The issue that should be pressed on Alex is not, why do you think that nothing happened in Newtown? | ||
| Because that's a question he's been ready to answer forever. | ||
| Yeah, he's been preparing for that one. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And I'm sure well before the interview, they were like... | ||
| She's going to do this! | ||
| Yeah, Buckley sat him down and was like, dude, I'm your cousin, now you listen to me. | ||
| That's going to come up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And stop marrying my third wife. | ||
| I like the ongoing marital troubles of Buckley. | ||
| That are based on nothing. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| I just love it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, the question that Megyn Kelly should have asked in regards to Sandy Hook, and maybe she did, I don't know. | ||
| The whole interview hasn't come out when we're recording this. | ||
| So I don't know what she asked. | ||
| And a lot of the things that we have to go on is assumption, past history of TV news specials, and the trailer that they put out. | ||
| The question she should have asked is, set it up by saying, let's talk about your position on Sandy Hook. | ||
| That puts a trap down for Alex to walk right into. | ||
| Because his narrative that he spins now, and he spins in the trailer, is that we had debates. | ||
| We heard both sides of it. | ||
| Sometimes for devil's advocate we said all these things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you say that. | ||
| Then play him this clip. | ||
| Yeah, so Sandy Hook is a synthetic, completely fake, with actors, in my view, manufactured. | ||
| I couldn't believe it at first. | ||
| I knew they had actors there, clearly, but I thought they killed some real kids. | ||
| And it just shows how bold they are that they clearly used actors. | ||
| I mean, they even ended up using photos of kids killed in mass shootings here in a fake mass shooting in Turkey. | ||
| So, yeah, or Pakistan. | ||
| The sky is now the limit. | ||
| So you play that clip for him, and that is where the real question is, which is, why are you lying about what you said in the past? | ||
| It's not about Sandy Hook, necessarily. | ||
| wasn't your position. | ||
| It's very publicly available. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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That's a question he's not ready to answer, and it's not an answer to I was caught up in propaganda back then. | |
| And I pitched this narrative. | ||
| I didn't think there would be consequences. | ||
| I didn't realize how bad that would look in hindsight. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Or he would have to say, I found evidence that it wasn't fake, and I'm an idiot. | ||
| I'm sorry I said those things. | ||
| Which he can't do. | ||
| He can't do that. | ||
| He can't do either of those. | ||
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No. | |
| So his position would have to be, I was playing devil's advocate. | ||
| But he wasn't. | ||
| And you have to listen to that and go, no. | ||
| You weren't. | ||
| He wasn't at all. | ||
| That was unequivocal. | ||
| He was explaining what he saw the reality as to his audience. | ||
| He was directly saying it to a listener who was calling in, and everyone else was the surrogates. | ||
| They were the surrogate callers who were being trained and taught in the macabre arts of false flaggery. | ||
| And even more important than that was that in that clip he says, I didn't believe it at first. | ||
| And now I do. | ||
| So you can't call that devil's advocate. | ||
| That's you coming to a realization. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And there has to be something that led him to that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But again, it's not to get to, like, why are you a monster? | ||
| How could you deny Sandy Hook? | ||
| It's why did you lie? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or are you going to apologize for lying? | ||
| What is the nature of your deceit in this case? | ||
| Or are you going to say you're wrong? | ||
| Or I'm dumb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I fell for this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is the trap that you would set with that sort of a question. | ||
| If you ask him, why would you do that to those families? | ||
| It sounds like there's going to be an emotional resonance to it, but it doesn't work with him. | ||
| He's ready for that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a psychopath. | ||
| He is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He has no feelings, no emotions. | ||
| He thinks he's better than everybody else, and he thinks he's going to outsmart everybody else. | ||
| And nobody can catch him. | ||
| And we know he has no feelings because he's never laughed. | ||
| He's never actually left! | ||
| Never. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, we're gonna get to this episode. | ||
| There's a couple of fun things. | ||
| We're gonna deal with a lot of damage control about Megyn Kelly in the beginning. | ||
| Then we're going to get to some really fucked up stuff. | ||
| And at the end of this, I'm going to play you a clip that I think indicates that Alex... | ||
| On our last episode, back from 2015, Alex Jones quote-unquote jumped the shark in his conception. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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In this episode, Alex Jones legitimately invalidates the last 20 years of his career. | |
| No shit! | ||
| Yep, and we'll get to that clip at the end. | ||
| So there's a tease. | ||
| You son of a bitch! | ||
| There's a tease. | ||
| Listen to the end. | ||
| So we're going to start at the beginning. | ||
| Which essentially invalidates our entire... | ||
| Our stated mission is no longer... | ||
| Well, fuck our stated mission. | ||
| We don't have coconut juice. | ||
| That's true. | ||
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And we stopped drinking wine, so everything's out the window. | |
| So here's how Alex started out the show. | ||
| On Monday... | ||
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June 12th. | |
| Live from the Infowars.com studios, you're listening to The Alex Jones Show. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, all hell is breaking loose. | ||
| And I couldn't be happier. | ||
| Victory, victory, victory, victory. | ||
| Infowars is absolutely dominating. | ||
| And the globalists are so upset. | ||
| Look at these headlines. | ||
| Chelsea Clinton blasts Kelly for Alex Jones' interview, The Hill. | ||
| Sandy Hookmom blasts Megyn Kelly for upcoming Alex Jones' interview. | ||
| Megyn Kelly, NBC under fire over sickening Alex Jones' interview. | ||
| This is totally coordinated NBC bull. | ||
| This is all PR, especially out of Megyn Kelly and Chelsea Clinton. | ||
| We know they hang out with. | ||
| This is incredible. | ||
| Megyn Kelly lied to me and said it wasn't a hit piece, said that she wasn't going to get into these topics. | ||
| And like Trump says, better watch out, there might be tapes. | ||
| There's no question about it, there might be tapes. | ||
| And I just knew I was walking into a trap. | ||
| Because MSM doesn't get it no matter what they do. | ||
| Then why did you do it? | ||
| They're already discredited. | ||
| They have the zombies that watch them, but that's it. | ||
| Everybody else then just gets reminded of the show so it grows even faster. | ||
| It's only those millions of people. | ||
| Chelsea, you're in the WikiLeaks talking about Haitians dying because of your foundation and how your mommy and how your daddy stole all the money, but you didn't do anything. | ||
| And all the corruption and Jerry Epstein's pedophile airplane, all of it. | ||
| You know what I'm going to do? | ||
| I'm just going to come back in the next segment and I'm going to lay out the whole Megyn Kelly hit piece and how they're going to edit it and what they're going to do because I already know. | ||
| I already know. | ||
| I kind of already know, too. | ||
| I mean, we all kind of know what the format of it is going to take. | ||
| It's going to be essentially the same attempts at gotcha. | ||
| It's going to be him obfuscating. | ||
| Of course, he knows. | ||
| We all know. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What the essence of the interview will be. | ||
| Nice jabs on Chelsea Clinton there. | ||
| He really should stop bringing up Jeffrey Epstein's plane, because Trump was on it, too. | ||
| Whenever he brings up how Clinton was on the, quote-unquote, Lolita Express, it's like, Trump did, too. | ||
| They were friends, also. | ||
| You can't just, like, oh, no, I'll just ignore that part of it. | ||
| So, he has to frame the interview as a hit piece. | ||
| That's important to his narrative working. | ||
| And maybe that's fair. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, it has to be a hit piece. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| There's no other way to organize it, right? | ||
| Well, do you mean for him or in reality? | ||
| No, in reality. | ||
| How would you do a puff piece on Alex Jones? | ||
| I wouldn't do a puff piece, but I think I could do a piece that wasn't a hit piece. | ||
| I think certainly. | ||
| If I were given... | ||
| Like, if NBC let me interview Alex, I wouldn't be doing it as a hatchet job. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I would destroy him. | ||
| How is that not a hatchet job, then? | ||
| Because I would also seek to... | ||
| Here's what I would seek to do. | ||
| Seek and destroy, first off, by Iggy Pop. | ||
| I would play that as my intro music. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| As opposed to that weird walk in the bass. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| No, none of that. | ||
| What I would do is my approach, and I think this is what Megyn Kelly should have done. | ||
| I would have left the Sandy Hook stuff alone. | ||
| The stuff that we talked about at the beginning is, if you have to bring it up, that's the approach you should take. | ||
| I would seek to explain to him and to illuminate to the audience the link between his past and his propaganda. | ||
| That's what I would seek to do if I were doing a story on him. | ||
| It would not be a hit piece in the sense that I want to score points off him or something like that. | ||
| But I would try to make clear all of your toxic masculinity. | ||
| God, that would blindside him beyond belief. | ||
| Further, I would lay out you are a bigot. | ||
| I know you don't want to believe that, but you are. | ||
| You think that you've been beaten up by black people more than Martin Luther King has been beaten up by white people. | ||
| You think that you're the new Martin Luther King. | ||
| You have real problems with race, and you... | ||
| You embody horrible racism. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Now, look at your past. | ||
| You think that you were beat up all the time by black people when you were a kid. | ||
| Not realizing that you were a problem kid. | ||
| You were a fucking shithead kid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, how many comas do you have to put other people in before it invalidates any... | ||
| Oh, before you look in the mirror. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But see, I would take those stories that he's told on the air of being targeted for his whiteness and be like, do you realize how... | ||
| The way that you deal with race now mirrors that childish idea that you had when you were a kid. | ||
| Do you realize that all of your anti-feminist ideas kind of root, they take root in that you have to be a man, you can't be a mama's boy, you don't get love anymore kind of stuff. | ||
| That's what I would do. | ||
| I would just lay it all out there. | ||
| I'd be like, let's get into this. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| What do you think? | ||
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Right. | |
| And hopefully there would be some... | ||
| I mean, he would just scream at me, but... | ||
| Well, and that's the shit. | ||
| Like, that's the way that you would have to... | ||
| Because that would do the thing that he would hate the most. | ||
| That would emasculate him. | ||
| And that is far more damaging to his listenership. | ||
| Because their entire... | ||
| Well, not their entire, but his audience, as you've noted in the past... | ||
| Is mostly white dudes. | ||
| Yeah, it's about 80% white and 70-something percent dudes. | ||
| Yeah, and that is the most damaging thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, for his listeners, the idea that instead of... | ||
| Actually, I think his audience is like 90% white. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, instead of trying to catch him in a lie or catching him in a, you know, why are you so evil? | ||
| It's, are you really just a pussy? | ||
| Did you ever consider that maybe you're a coward acting out? | ||
| I don't like that phrasing, first of all, the pussy stuff, but also... | ||
| I don't like using the word pussy in this regard, but again, that is the language that would emasculate him more than anything else. | ||
| I appreciate where you're coming from, but here's the distinction I would make. | ||
| I would not be seeking to emasculate him, but he would feel emasculated based on his own twisted worldview. | ||
| I would be seeking to actually give him a more robust... | ||
| View of race and masculinity that are much more integrated into the reality of the world as opposed to his abused child's understanding of it. | ||
| Like, clearly, I don't know. | ||
| This is fucked up. | ||
| But clearly something happened to him. | ||
| And it arrested his development. | ||
| That is what happened. | ||
| I mean, that's very simple to see. | ||
| So all of his understandings about the way people interact, the way the world works, is childish. | ||
| The idea of globalists is fucking childish to begin with. | ||
| And you take it further. | ||
| That's what I would want to get out of the interview. | ||
| I think I would just do the psychopath test with him. | ||
| Like, ask him those questions word for word and be like... | ||
| Hey, you scored, you're a murderer. | ||
| Did you consider that score? | ||
| Have you considered that? | ||
| Are you a murderer? | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Where's Nank? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That would be my first question. | ||
| You'd just be like, you'd be like Barksdale, like, where's Wallace? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But with Nank. | ||
| Did you fuck Buckley's wife? | ||
| These are questions we need answered. | ||
| So I guess actually, to sum it up, what I would say is it's less emasculation and more infantilization. | ||
| I would want him to be able... | ||
| That's a better way of putting it. | ||
| I would want him to be able to connect with the pained child version of himself that he clearly is acting out with. | ||
| Don't you think that would make him a sympathetic figure, though? | ||
| No, because the damage he's done is so severe that it would take a tremendous amount of work for him to ever become sympathetic again. | ||
| Because once you get through that part where it's like, this is the roots of so much of your bigotry, so much of your stupid positions that you have, so much of your twisting of the truth is to match these infantile ideas about the world. | ||
| Once you break through that, then you can pile in with the, why do you feel the need to lie about Sandy Hook? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You've destroyed him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Then you can get in with the, like, oh, okay, what about this? | ||
| Do you realize that the state of the conservative movement right now is going to take away health care for women that really need it, and a lot of it is not totally your fault, but you played a massive role in perpetuating that Planned Parenthood myth that the Center for Medical Progress put out, and you just... | ||
| Do you realize all the damage that you've done to our international standing, to our actual economy once this bubble starts to go down a little bit? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just by your cheerleading for Trump? | ||
| Do you understand? | ||
| And then he would take away a lot of the sympatheticness of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I just... | ||
| It's such a fucking shit show to watch this reaction. | ||
| Based on this entire interview, it's just that same fucking... | ||
| Like, you say something inflammatory, and then you get outraged. | ||
| And then the outrage goes back to the other side, and you just ping-pong outrage, and nobody ever actually deals with the fucking problem. | ||
| Well, to some extent, it's because ping-pong's a game we're used to playing. | ||
| It's a traditional structure that... | ||
| Like you said, you say something fucked up, I get mad, you get mad that I'm mad at you, and it just goes back and forth. | ||
| And then everybody pays attention, and then everybody forgets immediately. | ||
| And a number of the players make a good amount of money off it. | ||
| There is that dance that is really, really customary. | ||
| Even though Alex thinks of himself as such an alternative media figure, he's still very willing to play that game. | ||
| It's a money-making game. | ||
| I mean, it's proven to be very effective. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But the reality is you need to not play that game. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That game can't be played with someone like Alex. | ||
| Like, he's too dangerous. | ||
| And he's only... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, the whole thing. | ||
| The whole thing is a mess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's the other thing that you just described in your interview, something that TV news does not do, which is just play the clip. | ||
| Just make you sit there and listen to your words. | ||
| I would love to watch Alex's face while that Sandy Hook clip would play. | ||
| Oh, God, I'd be jerking off right in front of him. | ||
| He'd be jowly and sweaty. | ||
| He would walk out. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| That's your better interview is Alex Jones can't handle something, which, again, emasculates Alex Jones. | ||
| He can't sit there and take it. | ||
| No, you can have your come on Gallagher moment. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But with Alex Jones. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that's the whole thing. | ||
| Again, you can dish out all you want because you're a bully, but the moment you get challenged, you run away. | ||
| Your Alex is a coward. | ||
| I say this with all sincerity. | ||
| I wish they would have let me interview him. | ||
| Yeah, I know, right? | ||
| It would be the greatest. | ||
| I would be in the background just barely audible, just giggling like a lunatic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Drives me nuts. | ||
| We're one clip in. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| So this next clip is Alex explaining that he thinks he was lied to about the premise of the interview. | ||
| I don't think that's the case at all. | ||
| That can't be possible. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's simply amazing to see them. | ||
| And of course, Megyn Kelly interviewed me for four hours. | ||
| She had a crew here from 9.30 in the morning till 10.45 at night. | ||
| Interviewing me at some house they rented and a barbecue place they rented out and here at my office so they could edit it down to 11 minutes and then I saw their promo piece. | ||
| I know it's edited questions together. | ||
| I'm not saying it's Katie Couric level, at least until I see the broadcast, but they even lit me from one side villain lighting. | ||
| Villain lighting. | ||
| Why didn't you put a flashlight under my chin? | ||
| Oh look, she gets normal lighting. | ||
| I get villain lighting. | ||
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Maybe you just look like a villain in any lighting. | |
| Isn't that just cute? | ||
| Isn't that just nice? | ||
| You're a fucking villain! | ||
| And it goes on and on and on, and her on the phone, going, it's not a hit piece. | ||
| I'm obsessed with you. | ||
| I want to get a steak with you. | ||
| I want to get dessert. | ||
| I said, Megan, I know you're a lawyer and a hit operative, and you're coming in here to do a hit piece off known talking points. | ||
| It's going to be Sandy Hook, Pizzagate, blah, blah, blah. | ||
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She said, no, no, I might let you clarify those, but that's not what it's about. | |
| And then she'd ask me each of those things five times. | ||
| So she can try to get some answer. | ||
| She can stitch together. | ||
| Amazing. | ||
| So let me read between the lines on that. | ||
| You look like you want to yell something. | ||
| Megyn Kelly told Alex she is obsessed with him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm sure that that means that what she actually said was, I find you fascinating or something like that. | ||
| You're a crazy person. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| You'd be very interesting. | ||
| Also, probably, we can go get a steak. | ||
| Go get some dinner. | ||
| I'm coming down to Austin. | ||
| Show me some Texas or something like that. | ||
| I bet there was a conversation like that. | ||
| We don't just have to do the interview. | ||
| Let's get comfortable talking to each other. | ||
| Yeah, let's make out a little bit. | ||
| Sure, let's fuck. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Megyn Kelly's too classy. | ||
| So, the other stuff is like, yeah, the villain lighting stuff. | ||
| I've seen the show. | ||
| It doesn't look that villainous. | ||
| It's just kind of the standard. | ||
| 2020 news magazine type interview footage. | ||
| He just doesn't believe that he looks terrible. | ||
| That's what he really does. | ||
| He can't process that. | ||
| But it's his way of shilling his products even when he doesn't bring them up. | ||
| It's like, I don't look that bad. | ||
| I'm on super male vitality. | ||
| Or female vitality. | ||
| That is so funny. | ||
| He just admitted it's the same shit. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| The other thing there that's really important is she kept asking me the same question over and over again. | ||
| And we know why. | ||
| He didn't answer the five questions. | ||
| I'm certain of it. | ||
| She asked me a question and I didn't answer it. | ||
| And then she was like, hey, could you answer this question? | ||
| And I continued to not answer it. | ||
| Let's play it out. | ||
| I'll be Alex, you be Megan. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| How do you feel about all the damage that you've done to the Sandy Hook victims? | ||
| Any damage that I've done is not even close to the damage that's going to be done by fish people. | ||
| They're coming. | ||
| They're in tanks. | ||
| They look really sad. | ||
| They've got human sadness in their faces. | ||
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Now, how do you feel about that? | |
| About as bad as the Sandy Hook victims. | ||
| Why are you asking me about Sandy Hook again? | ||
| Yeah, but how do you feel about the damage you've done to the Sandy Hook victims? | ||
| I don't know why you keep bringing this up. | ||
| I mean, because I think our listeners and our viewers want to know... | ||
| Megan, this is unprofessional. | ||
| All right, I'll change tags. | ||
| Why do you fucking shit all over how I look? | ||
| Fish people! | ||
| I'm fucking Megan Kelly. | ||
| I'm gorgeous. | ||
| You know what I just realized, too? | ||
| That Megan is gorgeous? | ||
| She is a beautiful woman. | ||
| But also, the secret of 2017 may end up... | ||
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He might have been right. | |
| We laughed. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| We laughed in January when the secret of 2017 was Megan Kelly. | ||
| But apparently... | ||
| Turns out it's... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He might have been on to something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So I'm certain his presentation of what the interview is and her setup of it. | ||
| Is very wrong. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he has some other thoughts he wants. | ||
| Who could have guessed that we would have assumed it was wrong? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This next clip is Alex trying to explain why the Democrats in the world are mad about his interview. | ||
| So that it gets more hype to try to prop up her flagging show. | ||
| She's aired two episodes. | ||
| Because Putin only gave her a 15 minute interview. | ||
| It can't flag! | ||
| So that she couldn't sit there and edit it together. | ||
| So see, she needs this big win. | ||
| And then Chelsea of the Criminal Clinton Foundation weighs in. | ||
| Oh, don't give this guy attention. | ||
| Oh, oh, like I need attention on your stupid network. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| Incredible. | ||
| Absolutely ridiculous. | ||
| And as usual, they've walked right into our trap. | ||
| Why would you do a villainous laugh after protesting about your villainy? | ||
| And talking about I have a trap. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You don't have a trap, Alex. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| But also, like, that strikes me so much as I didn't want to play kickball anyway. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I'm taking my ball and going home. | ||
| I don't need your stupid network. | ||
| Look, just because you're mad that I always win doesn't mean that you get to tear me down. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I can just imagine he was that kind of fucking kid. | ||
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I just want to bully him. | |
| I don't actually really want to bully. | ||
| I don't like bullying. | ||
| So yeah, that is actually... | ||
| In that clip... | ||
| He said one thing that I kind of do agree with, and that is that a lot of the outrage about it is serving to get more hype for the interview. | ||
| And whether that's intentional or not is another thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I'm not sure if I believe that there's a plot on the part of NBC to, like, hey, let's anger people. | ||
| Maybe there is. | ||
| I mean, it's a guarantee. | ||
| I guarantee so many people will watch that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So many people are going to watch that. | ||
| It's going to have very good ratings. | ||
| No shit. | ||
| And that is why probably do a lot to the extreme outrage machine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, you want to watch it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I kind of want to watch it. | ||
| We have to for our work. | ||
| I'm not going to. | ||
| It would ruin our basic premise. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Are we going to cover it? | ||
| That would be great if we just were like, nope, didn't happen. | ||
| Fake news. | ||
| Fake news. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| I mean, you have a built-in audience of whatever, a couple hundred thousand people listen to Alex regularly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because his audience is not nearly as big as he thinks it is. | ||
| I could not hate the Chelsea Clinton shit more. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, the people who say Hillary should go away, fuck you. | ||
| Hillary should not go away. | ||
| She is the avatar for why the fuck are you white supremacists hating on women so goddamn much? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But! | ||
| Chelsea Clinton should go the fuck away. | ||
| I don't need any more political dynasties. | ||
| I'm done with the Bushes. | ||
| I hope they all go away. | ||
| I hope they all get hit by a truck. | ||
| I'm done with the Kennedys. | ||
| I'm done with... | ||
| The whole point is not to have a goddamn monarchy! | ||
| Why do we have one? | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| I think the Kennedys are done, for the most part. | ||
| Second, I don't think that... | ||
| Chelsea is necessarily engaged in electoral politics. | ||
| She's been asked if she... | ||
| She's intimated that perhaps she'll run for office. | ||
| She's been asked if she's going to run, and she said no. | ||
| Oh, did she? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because she's kind of had a few... | ||
| I've seen a few where she's like, at this time, I have no plans on that whole thing. | ||
| On the zero to Mark Zuckerberg scale, she's a one. | ||
| Oh, God, I hope Mark Zuckerberg goes away, too. | ||
| But, like, I don't think it's fair to say, here is a person... | ||
| Who has lived her entire adult life in the realm of politics and has gotten involved in non-profit NGO organizations and has opinions on things. | ||
| I don't think there's any reason to tell her to shut up. | ||
| I agree with you that I don't like the idea of her running for office necessarily because of the same reason, the dynasty shit, but there's no reason for her to go away in the capacity that she's in. | ||
| I agree with you completely. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Full stop. | ||
| It's disappointing because I want my... | ||
| The Bushes are a much bigger problem because there's at least two of them who are still in office. | ||
| Oh, fuck off, Bushes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I just... | ||
| I know I'm wrong. | ||
| I know I'm wrong, but I have this very visceral, emotional reaction to any time it's like... | ||
| Oh, what does Mike Huckabee's daughter have to say? | ||
| I hope she gets hit by a fucking car! | ||
| I don't care! | ||
| She's way better at this shit than him, though. | ||
| She's way better at this shit. | ||
| So maybe he was the problem. | ||
| Sarah Huckabee Sanders is talented. | ||
| Anyway, I don't know. | ||
| Of course, dynasties are bad. | ||
| Dynasties are bad. | ||
| That's my point. | ||
| My point is not to... | ||
| If she were to enter a Senate race... | ||
| The Senate might even be okay. | ||
| But if she were going to run for president, I would be against that. | ||
| Yeah, well, I'm against the Senate as well. | ||
| The entirety of it? | ||
| I'm against the... | ||
| Currently. | ||
| Yeah, certainly. | ||
| Okay, so this next clip, Alex cucks out NBC, talks about how great he is, which is pretty standard fare for him. | ||
| You think I need you? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You think you make me arrive? | ||
| Oh, cancel him! | ||
| Don't show it! | ||
| It's so horrible. | ||
| That's all to get people to tune in. | ||
| That there's a controversy. | ||
| Just like with the Passion of the Christ. | ||
| Oh, don't go see it. | ||
| Don't go watch it. | ||
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I thought you were talking about the literal Passion of the Christ. | |
| That's how the Romans got viewers. | ||
| She knows she needs us for the ratings. | ||
| She needs my fame. | ||
| The fame of liberty. | ||
| Your fame. | ||
| They know we're the operating system of Trump. | ||
| They know we're the reboot of 1776. | ||
| They know you are the light in the dark of the night. | ||
| And they don't like you. | ||
| And so they want to make you think we're losing and we're failing. | ||
| Just like they want to make you think Trump is losing and failing. | ||
| It's all a bunch of hype. | ||
| Trillions in the stock market, hundreds of billions in new jobs, confidence way up, securing the border, all the time. | ||
| None of that is true! | ||
| Zero! | ||
| Zero percent! | ||
| We'll be back, though, with what Ivanka Trump had to say. | ||
| Can't wait to hear that. | ||
| We'll be back with... | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| I hate the world we live in. | ||
| I mean, your screaming was totally right. | ||
| None of that is true, or it's all super vague stuff. | ||
| Except for maybe the... | ||
| I mean, I checked into it. | ||
| The small business optimism index is still pretty high. | ||
| But that's also... | ||
| I mean, even in the articles about it, it specifically says it's mostly because these companies are not going to have to pay healthcare. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that isn't... | ||
| I don't like that being high. | ||
| But also... | ||
| That does not bode well for us. | ||
| Also, The Passion of the Christ is the top-rated movie of all time? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no, yeah. | ||
| It's number 32. Haven't you ever seen The Passion of the Christ, the re-christening? | ||
| No, I've never seen the sequel. | ||
| That was the direct-to-video sequel. | ||
| Ah, top-rated to video. | ||
| It was... | ||
| It starred Pauly Shore. | ||
| So it's number 32. Number 30... | ||
| Don't crucify the weasel! | ||
| Number 33 is The Secret Life of Pets. | ||
| So it's right around there. | ||
| So I was thinking about it. | ||
| I was like, hey, Alex, what he might have been saying is it set a box office record that has been beaten since then. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what I was thinking. | ||
| So I was trying to be super fair. | ||
| Passion of the Christ came out in 2004. | ||
| Number 30 is Lord of the Rings Return of the King. | ||
| That came out in 2003, so that can't work. | ||
| Number 24 is Jurassic Park. | ||
| That came out in 1993. | ||
| It just doesn't work. | ||
| Lion King is 18. That came out in 94. Yeah, it never was even close. | ||
| Probably not even in the top five. | ||
| Yeah, but among Christian evangelicals, that's mainly what he said. | ||
| Oh, liars. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I remember when my parents, when it came out, my parents were part of... | ||
| A whole church movement where it's like, we have to go see The Passion of the Christ to support Christian values being put out in the world. | ||
| Christian. | ||
| Yeah, you mean the wildly anti-Semitic caricatures that... | ||
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Okay, sorry. | |
| Sorry. | ||
| Actually, The Passion of the Christ brings up something kind of interesting. | ||
| My dad is a religious studies professor, and he wrote... | ||
| An op-ed piece for the city paper in Columbia, where we lived at the time. | ||
| And I was in college. | ||
| Columbia, Missouri. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I was in college at the University of Missouri at the time, and I was walking by the Speaker's Circle, which is a place where, you know, it's supposed to celebrate free speech. | ||
| You'd have protesters out there a lot, but basically it was just for this insane preacher named Brother Jed. | ||
| To scream at people. | ||
| Already a big fan. | ||
| You're whores! | ||
| That sort of stuff. | ||
| Already a big fan. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Real fun for a day and then super annoying after. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| But I was walking by and I heard him screaming about my dad. | ||
| And I was like, oh, this is a twist. | ||
| So I didn't even know my dad had written this article about the Passion of the Christ. | ||
| And so I went and he was just screaming about how, like, you can't expect to find truth at an institution where religious studies is taught by Professor Friesen. | ||
| And I was like, whoa. | ||
| All right, my man. | ||
| And so I asked him, like, after he got done preaching. | ||
| Some civic notoriety. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| After he got done preaching and he was having a cool-down period, I walked up to him. | ||
| I was like, hey, you know, like, I was curious. | ||
| Like, you're screaming about my dad. | ||
| I was just wondering, you know, he's like, what are you talking about? | ||
| Like, you know, you're yelling about, you know, Professor Friesen. | ||
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He's like, away from me, spawn of Satan! | |
| All right, all right. | ||
| Oh, God, that's good stuff. | ||
| Yeah, so that's the kind of stuff that real Passion of the Christ fans love. | ||
| Also, Alex, your audience is way smaller than you pretend. | ||
| If you really look into it, his numbers are minuscule. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I recently checked back in on Quantcast to see if he had been growing at all, and he's not. | ||
| No. | ||
| Not. | ||
| Not really at all. | ||
| How does... | ||
| His profile is so fucking high for such a meaningless number of people listening. | ||
| It's so insane that he has this much influence to the point where he can be in the entire national consciousness. | ||
| He is in the zeitgeist. | ||
| For a guy with 300... | ||
| Not the mega zeitgeist. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| We can't get there. | ||
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No. | |
| I don't even know if anybody can get there beyond, I don't know, the passion of the Christ. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Caviezel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Mega Zeitgeist Jim Caviezel. | ||
| He was great in that movie with... | ||
| That other thing? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| No, he's nothing. | ||
| He's really nothing. | ||
| And somehow he's turned that super small audience into a... | ||
| Just like a constant talking point, less a valuable thing. | ||
| Well, you know the reason, I think, is because his actual audience is much larger than his going to his website and actually listening to him audience. | ||
| There are a lot of people who don't listen to him who are... | ||
| Instinctively agreeing with... | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And so the damage that's being done and the chicanery that's being done by his actual I-listen-to-him fans, it resonates with the people who don't listen to him. | ||
| But are already on that page. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The bigots of the world. | ||
| The white nationalist type. | ||
| I'm sure any white nationalist, white supremacist, which somehow numbers very high in our country, sees that fucking asshole on TV saying Hillary for prisoner, whatever it is, and immediately that is something they agree with. | ||
| So by him disseminating this, he... | ||
| Extends his reach through, yeah, I get it. | ||
| And that's the argument against having him on Megyn Kelly on NBC that makes the most sense, is that there are latent bigots who will be exposed to him, and he will get some... | ||
| It's backwash, but he's going to get some liquid out of this. | ||
| And it's all bad. | ||
| It's the coconut juice of backwash right there. | ||
| Jordan? | ||
| Yes? | ||
| The main piece, the piece de resistance in this episode is what I would describe as a massive rant in the middle of the episode. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And I've split it up into two parts just because otherwise it would be like seven minutes long. | ||
| And this is where Alex is in full-on martyr mode. | ||
| He is prophesying his own demise. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He's going to die. | ||
| They're going to target him. | ||
| He tells the truth too much. | ||
| But this is where I'm talking about the damage control. | ||
| All the rest of this stuff so far has been distractions, making Kelly sucks, her show sucks. | ||
| All this stuff is just dismissiveness. | ||
| I have a bigger audience. | ||
| They need me. | ||
| Blah, blah, blah. | ||
| It's all ego stuff. | ||
| But at this point, it gets to like... | ||
| I gotta make sure people know that I'm laying my life down intentionally. | ||
| Because he knows that it's going to be bad. | ||
| I was telling you before we started recording. | ||
| I have a very strong theory that he accidentally said something on camera that he knows he shouldn't have. | ||
| I think that he exposed himself in a way that Megyn Kelly probably didn't realize what he said. | ||
| I'm gonna guess it won't be in the actual interview, but if I watched all four hours of that raw footage, I would find it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'd be like, oh, shit, there it is. | ||
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There it is. | |
| I'm certain he knows that he said something, and he's worried that it'll be in the actual thing. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Not to the extent of, like, globalists aren't real, or something like that. | ||
| That would be fucking fantastic. | ||
| That would be amazing. | ||
| Just in one clip, he's just like... | ||
| Ah, you know, all this shit I say is dumb. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't believe any of this nonsense. | ||
| Let's go get a steak, baby. | ||
| Megan, come on! | ||
| Let's get a steak! | ||
| We're playing the game here! | ||
| Come on! | ||
| Hey! | ||
| It's nothing like that, but I'm pretty certain, based on his attitudes, that he knows that he's in jeopardy, I believe. | ||
| Anyway, here's the rant. | ||
| Here's my message, and I'm going to get into it more, to Megyn Kelly, Chelsea Clinton, and all these other sea hags in the New World Order. | ||
| Hates women. | ||
| I'm not trying to get out of this alive, dumbasses. | ||
| You don't need to start. | ||
| I'm not trying to get out of this a winner in your system. | ||
| I'm here to bring you down. | ||
| I'm here to make you pay for the wars and the lies and the corruption and the Clinton Foundation. | ||
| And all of it. | ||
| Interesting list. | ||
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That's why you keep missing the main calculation. | |
| Wars, Lies, and the Clinton Foundation, a charitable organization, regardless of... | ||
| A very bad book, though. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That title. | ||
| I wanted to pause it right there, because I agree not with anything he's saying, except for what he said right there at the end. | ||
| That is, this is why you missed the calculation. | ||
| And I agree that everybody who covers him misses what his priorities are. | ||
| He is, to a certain extent, a kamikaze pilot. | ||
| There is a reckless abandon about his public self-image. | ||
| He doesn't give a fuck if he's on NBC talking about how he doesn't believe in Sandy Hook. | ||
| He has a spin for it in place. | ||
| What he would care about is much different than that. | ||
| What he would care about is... | ||
| The deconstruction of his ego and the deconstruction of the globalist myth. | ||
| Those two things would really put him in jeopardy. | ||
| Everything else is just nonsense. | ||
| You want to bring up 9-11 to him? | ||
| He's had 17 years, 16 years to really, really put some varnish on that piece of shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He has it all down. | ||
| All the conspiracy stuff, he's ironclad on. | ||
| So, you do miss the calculations. | ||
| Whenever you're approaching him that way. | ||
| But it's just because he's so far outside of what it is they can conceive of. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, Megyn Kelly and the greater media at large is still bound by a lot of things. | ||
| And they can't imagine somebody completely unbound by it. | ||
| Like, even Fox News still... | ||
| He clings to some of those old ways. | ||
| Some of those, like, we have to, at the very slightest, have some sort of underpinning, some sort of fact, some sort of small little thing that we can kind of glom onto. | ||
| And Alex does not care. | ||
| Nope. | ||
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Not at all. | |
| He will just make shit up. | ||
| And if you think you can catch him in that making shit up, he's gonna make shit up about that! | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| It is a never-ending cycle. | ||
| And there's no... | ||
| And that's the thing. | ||
| You think for a normal media figure, sooner or later, there's going to be a break. | ||
| There's going to be a moment where you have something to hold on to. | ||
| And Alex is nothing. | ||
| Alex is fucking smoke on the wind. | ||
| Here's why. | ||
| Loud, shitty-smelling, male... | ||
| Toxic vitality taken. | ||
| He is a whiff of Axe body spray. | ||
| But here's why that's the case. | ||
| In all conventional news, in almost every other facet of people who are pontificating or whatever, they have forces that keep them in check, like sponsors, like the network, like FCC. | ||
| Alex Jones legit doesn't. | ||
| He probably does have some sort of a billionaire benefactor that's backing him up. | ||
| There probably is something like that. | ||
| You would assume so. | ||
| But beyond that, he sells his own products. | ||
| In the same way that Mercer backs up or props up Breitbart. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's got to be something like that behind the scenes because his finances can't work otherwise. | ||
| But be that as it may, the rest of it is he sells his own products that he, you know, ostensibly has a warehouse that he ships everything himself. | ||
| He doesn't have sponsors that would ever betray him. | ||
| He's syndicated by a shady gold salesman who owns a radio network that's basically just Alex. | ||
| So he's not going to abandon him. | ||
| That's his cash cow. | ||
| Yeah, he's got nothing to lose either. | ||
| He is broadcast on a bunch of stations. | ||
| Oh, boycott a gold thing that you've never heard of? | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then he's broadcast on a bunch of radio stations that are under FCC control. | ||
| But if those go away, who gives a shit? | ||
| He's not getting paid for that. | ||
| There's no syndication fee for Infowars stuff. | ||
| So he's not losing money there. | ||
| And if every single one of his radio affiliates got lost, that would be the best thing ever for him. | ||
| He could claim that he's the biggest victim of censorship in the world. | ||
| It would cause mass migration to his website. | ||
| It would cause such a great swell of, like, the globalists are coming. | ||
| They're making their move. | ||
| I need you to buy my products. | ||
| He doesn't lose any money. | ||
| Share my YouTube videos. | ||
| Do all of this stuff because I can't get the message out any other way. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So all of these other people, even Sean Hannity, even Rush Limbaugh, all of these people have very serious market pressures that stop them from being out-and-out liars and bullshit artists. | ||
| People can boycott their sponsors. | ||
| People can make threats. | ||
| Things like that. | ||
| The free market can touch them. | ||
| Alex really can't. | ||
| Except by... | ||
| The people who have been tricked by him stopping buying his products. | ||
| And the likelihood of that is very low. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So... | ||
| Again, cult deprogramming. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, you can't... | ||
| You're much more likely to get a mass suicide than you are a mass exodus. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| So if you come at him with like this idea that you're going to shame him in some way that you would to somebody who has the same market pressures, you're delusional. | ||
| He's never going to crack to that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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He's only going to crack to threats to his masculinity, threats to his ego or threats to his globulin. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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And even that third one is iffy because he could just start yelling about a bunch of bullshit that probably isn't real. | |
| Right. | ||
|
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That you haven't researched. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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It's like it's like putting a psychopath on trial for like 30 murders. | |
| If you can't definitively prove each and every one, he's going to deny them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's going to deny all of them. | ||
| For 20 years, you can put him in jail. | ||
| He's just going to deny them because no matter what, he thinks he's smarter than you. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He thinks he's better than you and that you are less of a human being than he is. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| So it's... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The idea of trying to shame a psychopath is mind-boggling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, you just don't understand that. | ||
| You can't shame the shameless. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| He's fucking shameless as hell. | ||
| Trump has never been ashamed of anything. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And that's where like finds like. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The deep in Alex calls to the deep in Trump. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Within their souls. | ||
| Anyway, let's get back to this rant. | ||
| May precision guided heavy munition coming in on top of you. | ||
| I'm here to stand up for the innocence. | ||
| I don't like you. | ||
| I don't like you getting away with what you do. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So I hit the barbed wire, and everybody else comes in over me. | ||
| Have you seen what we've done, how talk radio now sounds just like me? | ||
| Have you seen how the president sounds just like me? | ||
| Have you seen how Stephen Bannon sounds just like me? | ||
| No. | ||
| Have you seen how the whole paradigm globally shifting, and you can't hold it back? | ||
| You can destroy leaders, you can destroy me, but you can't stop the signal of Americana. | ||
| And all I did was bring back. | ||
| Americana Renaissance 2.0. | ||
| Selling that. | ||
| Freedom, prosperity, technological development, honor, justice, family, God, will, strength, compassion, kinship, friendship, duty, to your globalism, a bunch of vampires that hate each other, screwing everyone over. | ||
| Trying to be the top yertle the turtle on your power trips? | ||
| What? | ||
| I'm going to need that. | ||
| My ego isn't big. | ||
| My vision of humanity is big. | ||
| My ego is in humanity. | ||
| My ego is in the genetics. | ||
| My ego is in my ancestors, my family, my children, and my future progeny, and yours together. | ||
| I love humanity because I'm so selfish. | ||
| I believe in it because I know it's me and it's you and us together. | ||
| It sounds completely selfless. | ||
| It's totally selfish. | ||
| And you have no idea because you don't know God. | ||
| So this is where we'll take our first break in the rant. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This gets back to his my ancestors are me. | ||
| White. | ||
| Well, no, but who cares about that part of it for right now because it's even weirder. | ||
| It is even weirder. | ||
| He does talk often about how your offspring are just you. | ||
| And, like, race memory and stuff like that. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I believe that he thinks that you live on through your ancestors. | ||
| I think that that is... | ||
| Okay, this is a new fun wrinkle. | ||
| I think that that might be what he's getting... | ||
| It's hard to tell with Alex often when he's talking metaphorically or literally, but he's brought this up enough times that I think when he talks about, like, I'm being selfish... | ||
| I'm not being selfless trying to let the species continue. | ||
| I'm being selfish. | ||
| Because I am the species. | ||
| And I don't think he means my genes will carry on. | ||
| I think he thinks my great-grandson will be me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Or something along those lines. | ||
| There's some sort of a reincarnation thing. | ||
| I buy him believing in reincarnation of some sort. | ||
| It's possible, but if he does, it's really stupid that he doesn't just spell it out, because that's not too weird a thing to believe. | ||
| Well, yeah, but if you espouse ostensibly Christian beliefs... | ||
| Ostensibly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, as we've documented... | ||
| Not really. | ||
| Goddammit if we know what he actually believes in. | ||
| Some weird sect. | ||
| Sure as fuck isn't Christianity. | ||
| So the other thing in that clip that's really important is he's talking about like, do you notice that talk radio is becoming me? | ||
| The president has become me. | ||
| And it's not fair. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| It's not true. | ||
| He's become. | ||
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Yeah, I think you're right. | |
| That's a much better way of putting it. | ||
| Alex was a latent bigot, and he is in our investigation in 2015, if we flash back to that time period. | ||
| He never says Americana. | ||
| He never says Renaissance 2.0. | ||
| He never talks about any of the things that he talks about now. | ||
| He's a completely different person in terms of the catchphrases, the memes, as it were, that he throws out. | ||
| Brutal. | ||
| Those little speech memes that he has. | ||
| Completely different. | ||
| And it all changes with Trump. | ||
| He did not... | ||
| Everybody has not become him. | ||
| He has become part of all that. | ||
| Now, unfortunately, it is sort of... | ||
| Homogenous to a certain extent, all of it, which is white nationalism. | ||
| These people have that in common. | ||
| Their priority is straight, white, Christian men. | ||
| That is the thread that ties between the rebel media, the Alex Jones, the Zero Hedge, the... | ||
| And that's another thing. | ||
| And we were texting about this. | ||
| I have the specific statistics in front of me. | ||
| On NBC, on any major network, they will never actively point out this is a white nationalist movement. | ||
| No. | ||
| And they'll point out the white nationalist Nazis, those small groups, but they'll never point to the fact that... | ||
| They'll point out how dapper they look. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But they'll never point out that it is the entirety. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is not a small amount. | ||
| It is not these fringe groups. | ||
| It is either... | ||
| Those guys are just the ones who are out about it. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Yeah, and that's the reality that my hypothetical interview with Alex Jones would also take on, is that I would like to elucidate to the audience that he doesn't care about the conspiracy theories nearly as much as he cares about white identity and masculinity. | ||
| Those are two things that he really, really cares about, and when he gets worked up, it's usually about those things. | ||
| So, to my estimation from my now six months of intense research on him, my operating theory that I think is bearing out is the conspiracy stuff is intentional. | ||
| It's a glittery, seductive element to get people to pay attention and think that he's someone who tells the truth about stuff. | ||
| then once you're in all of these white narratives start to come up all this victimhood narratives everything about how like white people are the real oppressed race yeah that's so And whether that's intentional or not... | ||
| And whether that was the case years ago, I'm not sure. | ||
| But it absolutely is now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which, again, that is the problem. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is the problem. | ||
| The Sandy Hook bullshit is a symptom of it. | ||
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Right. | |
| What we should be fighting is not, why are you mean to Sandy Hook victims? | ||
| Or why are you fucking ruining their lives? | ||
| Not to minimize that at all, but the larger issue, the thing that nobody is fucking dealing with, is white supremacy. | ||
| Because that is the problem. | ||
| And just to make it clear that I'm not just talking shit here, I have pulled up the statistics from Quantcast of demographic breakdowns of all of the sources that Alex Jones respects. | ||
| He doesn't really cite Breitbart articles all that much anymore. | ||
| I don't know what happened between them, but there's some sort of... | ||
| They're not on his regular news rotation. | ||
| But InfoWars... | ||
| Bannon probably stopped Trump from talking to him. | ||
| It could be. | ||
| Or maybe he hasn't fired Priebus and, you know... | ||
| Alex's cross about it. | ||
| So Infowars itself is 78% male, the audience, 22% female. | ||
| That is incredibly disproportionate to the demographics of the America. | ||
| The America. | ||
| The America. | ||
| If you want to look at it, a normal breakdown should be very close to 50-50. | ||
| If you look at representative samples, there's a reason that this show specifically appeals to dudes. | ||
| Further, it's 83% white, 3% African American. | ||
| So that... | ||
| I mean, the population is something to the effect of like 13% African American. | ||
| You would expect something much closer to that if it wasn't a massive aberration. | ||
| Now, beyond that, the audience is something to the tune of right around 60% over the age of 45. So we've discussed that before in the past, but that's an update because the numbers have changed a tiny bit. | ||
| Now you look at the sources that he trusts and he cites. | ||
| We have World News Daily. | ||
| 74% male, 26% female. | ||
| 86% Caucasian, 4% African American. | ||
| 65% over the age of 45. So, sort of a similar picture. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Zero hedge, 88% male, 12% female, 83% Caucasian, 2% African American. | ||
| Something around 55% over the age of 45. Drudge report. | ||
| Which is the most popular of all these sites that I've listed. | ||
| 89% male, 11% female. | ||
| Jesus fucking Christ! | ||
| 90% Caucasian. | ||
| 1% African American. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| 73% over the age of 45. Of course. | ||
| All of these places that Alex Jones deems credible... | ||
| Are you saying that old white men might be part of the issue? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I mean, there are, just because 60% is over the age of 45, that doesn't mean that 40% isn't. | ||
| So it's not like there's nobody under those ages, but a massive demographic block, a plurality, for sure, of the audiences of every place that Alex Jones deems credible and not part of the fake news, the dinosaur media, the enemy media. | ||
| all of those places are heavily white older dudes and that's not a coincidence there's a reason that all of these places are networked together and unfortunately quantcasting It doesn't have public statistics for Breitbart, but I imagine it's pretty much the same. | ||
| So, I mean, like, you understand what I'm getting at here is that this is a self-resonating echo chamber of white narratives. | ||
| Especially white male narratives. | ||
| And they realize that they have no danger in spelling out those narratives. | ||
| They're totally fine to be as flippant and dismissive of Charleston as a shooting. | ||
| Because... | ||
| Who's going to speak out? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Who doesn't already agree with them? | ||
| That 89% male audience, that 87% white audience... | ||
| Is probably... | ||
| No one's gonna... | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It sucks, but it's not that big of a deal. | ||
| Maybe it was fake. | ||
| The worst... | ||
| The worst they could get out of that is somebody saying, well, I'm not gonna pay attention to this one. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or you might have someone who's like, eh, Alex is getting to be a little much for me, and they drift from the fold, but they're not gonna be... | ||
| To Drudge Report! | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right, where you're lured back in. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You see a Mark Dice video up there that Alex has planted, and now you're back in the cycle. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's... | ||
| It's completely nuts. | ||
| I don't know how else to put it. | ||
| It's as white as Augusta National, you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Is that a Trump golf course? | ||
| No, it's the... | ||
| Actually, Trump golf courses are whiter. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| It's one of the old-fashioned boys' club, we-don't-allow-women golf courses. | ||
| So when I stumbled across the statistics about Infowars a ways back, and I saw that, I was like, yeah, that checks out. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| It's crazy, but that makes sense. | ||
| The Drudge Report one is really scary, because that is a very popular website. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And to see that it's demographically so homogenous is... | ||
| It's very troubling. | ||
| And when I saw that all of those sites had... | ||
| Incredibly similar demographic patterns. | ||
| I realize that a lot of these people are probably the same people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They have to be. | ||
| And it's all self-reinforcing. | ||
| Because they play the same stories. | ||
| They play the same narratives. | ||
| And you're like, well, Alex said this and I don't know if I trust it. | ||
| Let me check Drudge. | ||
| So then you can go to Drudge. | ||
| Let me check Drudge. | ||
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Same thing. | |
| Oh, Drudge confirms it. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Not realizing that they're all in this together. | ||
| It's all a massive propaganda campaign. | ||
| Targeting white. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| White male fragility. | ||
| And it's pathetic. | ||
| They're exactly the same as ISIS! | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That is exactly what's going on here! | ||
| That's kind of the point I wanted to get to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus fucking Christ! | ||
| And the only difference is that Alex is dog-whistly about his calls for violence. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He is really desperately trying to get people to start fighting. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But he has to be very coded about it and very... | ||
| Because when he is... | ||
| To overt, things happen. | ||
| Like the guy who showed up at Comet Ping Pong with a gun. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And pulled off a shot. | ||
| Or the people who constantly harassed the Sandy Hook victim. | ||
| Or there was a guy who, after Alex Jones did all his stuff about Bohemian Grove, there was a guy who tried to sneak in with a bunch of guns. | ||
| And he was gonna kill everybody at Bohemian Grove. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, I mean, like, whenever he does this stuff, if he's too overt, there are people who follow... | ||
| What he says, and those people are a real danger. | ||
| And he knows that it can be tied back to him. | ||
| If there is a white nationalist suicide bomber, he will not say, oh, he's a hero. | ||
| He's a martyr. | ||
| No. | ||
| But he'll say, you know... | ||
| He'll say it was fake. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what he'll do. | ||
| He'll say it was... | ||
| You know, he was on amnesic drugs or something like that. | ||
| They hit him with that, what's that South American drug that you, you know, that demon drug, you just blow it in someone's face and then they're a zombie. | ||
| I saw something on Vice about it. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| You know, like, that would be his storyline. | ||
| It's like, you know, it's the globalists got this white guy to do it to set up the Patriots. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Which is the story every time a white person does it, or he just doesn't talk about it. | ||
| Again, as we've discussed, he still has never... | ||
| He apologized for insisting that it was a Muslim who shot up that mosque in Quebec a couple months back. | ||
| He is not at all... | ||
| He said, I know that it was a Muslim. | ||
| Turns out it was a white guy. | ||
| He just doesn't... | ||
| Whenever I say he's a racist and this show is about white identity, it sounds crazy to some extent. | ||
| And I understand that it sounds crazy because he doesn't say like... | ||
| The N-word. | ||
| He doesn't say black people are stupid. | ||
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Right. | |
| Or anything like that. | ||
| And he has safe harbor because of that. | ||
| But in the same way that Comey, in his testimony, said, President Trump didn't tell me to stop the investigation, but there were all these insinuations, I hope you'll stop. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| These sorts of things. | ||
| Alex can say, I'm not racist. | ||
| I didn't say these things. | ||
| I say that we're all humans with all red blood and all this stuff. | ||
| But the trappings of it, the way he deals with A white death versus a minority death. | ||
| The anger that he has towards trans people and anything that's an aberration from what he deems normal. | ||
| All of that is so clear that he's a bigot. | ||
| Anyway, his rant's not done. | ||
| We have to get to the second part. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| Alright. | ||
| So here we go. | ||
| I'm protected, fools! | ||
| I'm talking to the evil ones. | ||
| I will be around until God wants me gone. | ||
| And then no matter what happens, I know it's God's plan. | ||
| So no matter what you do to me, I rejoice in it. | ||
| Even though my flesh doesn't like it, my soul, my spirit loves it. | ||
| I'm so alive, it's unbelievable. | ||
| My discernment is so deep and piercing now, I can't even stand it. | ||
| And I look at you, you fallen monsters, and I realize what jokes you are. | ||
| And I thank God every millisecond at my cellular level that I am not with you and your damn-to-hell system. | ||
| Praise God for that. | ||
| Nah. | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| I'm going to let that one go. | ||
| Until I get to my message, I'm kind of doing it now. | ||
| But I'm going to come back and really focus and do it because it's important. | ||
| Because it's not this interview and it's not Megyn Kelly. | ||
| This is their big gamble. | ||
| This is their big take Alex Jones down. | ||
| This is pathetic. | ||
| The only way I could fail was not doing it. | ||
| And letting them rig it. | ||
| And letting them interview me for four hours to edit it together. | ||
| And then be able to show people what was really said. | ||
| No idea what that means. | ||
| Or how that would work. | ||
| Or what you would do? | ||
| Walking right into a trap. | ||
| Even told them they were. | ||
| But they think they're winners. | ||
| They think they're invincible. | ||
| They think because they hoard more money or can like try to put me down in the mud that they have a victory. | ||
| While they're busy shoving me down in the mud, everybody's overrunning them. | ||
| And I'm making it safe for everybody else to speak out just like Trump's doing on a much bigger scale. | ||
| So when he says that, he is telling the truth in some ways. | ||
| But what he's making it okay for people to speak out about is, I'm freaked out by Muslims. | ||
| That's the sort of thing that he's... | ||
| The anti-PC stuff that he's doing isn't actual against political correctness. | ||
| It's, I'm making bigotry okay again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I kind of agree with him, and that's why we do this show. | ||
| Yeah, what else happened during the fucking Trump campaign? | ||
| It was just all out-and-out bigotry. | ||
| Or cruelty, because it's not necessarily bigotry to make fun of the handicapped reporter and shit. | ||
| That's just cruel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it's ableist, but I don't know if that's... | ||
| Is that kind of bigotry? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's an interesting question. | ||
| I don't think now is a good time for us to try and figure that one out. | ||
| Let's not litigate that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Let's finish this clip. | ||
| And that's why they hate him and why they sell the hoax he's falling and why they sell the hoax that he's a criminal and why they sell the hoax and they've got the former lawyers that went after Enron, you know, in there. | ||
| Wait, is that good or bad? | ||
| Trump's on an island all alone. | ||
| You don't want to be with him. | ||
| Be with the mainstream media. | ||
| Then you'll be with the winning team. | ||
| Even though the mainstream media wants you to lose, wants you poor, wants you under their control, represent the criminals, even though Trump actually wants to empower you and cut your taxes and bring the jobs back. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| You're a failure if you're with Trump. | ||
| Be a winner. | ||
| Join MSM. | ||
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Lame. | |
| It is a total and complete test. | ||
| It is a total and complete system to see if they can break your will and then make you believe that you're joining the winning team by going against Trump. | ||
| It's all a giant test. | ||
| But it doesn't matter because if you look at things as they go in waves, we're destroying them in this wave. | ||
| It's the next wave that will completely annihilate the enemy. | ||
| So that idea that it's a test is really bizarre. | ||
| But that's how he has to frame it to his audience. | ||
| Stay strong. | ||
| Stay strong. | ||
| That's the evangelical message all the time, though. | ||
| It's always, you know, this life is just preparation for the next. | ||
| So this whole thing is just a game. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's using Trump to be that, which I think might be slightly sacrilegious in Undertown. | ||
| But beyond that, I don't understand his conception where it's like, you're either with me or you're... | ||
| With the mainstream media, there's a middle ground. | ||
| I can reject most of both. | ||
| Not anymore. | ||
| Pick a side, Dan! | ||
| Well, then I wholeheartedly support the mainstream media. | ||
| If that's the choices... | ||
| Oh, Dan. | ||
| Look, I... | ||
| Dan, you're betraying your ideals! | ||
| How? | ||
| Because! | ||
| I support the existence of the media as opposed to the existence of Alex. | ||
| I would say that. | ||
| At the same time, it's not counterproductive, it's not counterintuitive to say that mainstream media gets it wrong a lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| But at this point, there's nothing maybe that needs to be more protected. | ||
| Today, you can't have cameras recording the GOP answers in the Senate. | ||
| They won't show you the bill they're writing. | ||
| Because, quote, we're not stupid. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Because, quote, we're going to murder people. | ||
| That might as well be the fucking words that they say. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And all of this stuff is keeping this... | ||
| Like, there's a really good reason that freedom of the press is in there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know you want to say freedom of speech is the First Amendment. | ||
| But freedom of the press is a big deal. | ||
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| Because in countries where they don't have it, like ones that have influenced our election. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Or ones that employed our former national security head. | ||
| You wind up getting journalists murdered for reporting the truth. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And that is the point. | ||
| That's the danger. | ||
| And that's where we're... | ||
| Fucking headed! | ||
| See, a system can... | ||
| And it sounds hyperbolic. | ||
| It really does. | ||
| To a lot of people, they're like, no, America still has protections in place. | ||
| We don't. | ||
| The rule of law is gone. | ||
| Well, I mean, that's something that people were saying, you know, even before the election and as it was happening, was that the institutions and, like, principles that we have are only as strong as the people who are in place. | ||
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Right. | |
| And there's so many of them that were... | ||
| Our traditions are meaningless if you don't uphold them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's so many that were apparently unwritten. | ||
| So this whole idea of like, well, they're breaking norms. | ||
| Maybe we should have written that shit down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because maybe we wouldn't be fucked. | ||
| Well, the thing about the press, too, is that like... | ||
| But that's the thing. | ||
| People don't believe that psychopaths want to do this. | ||
| People don't understand psychopaths because that's what these guys are. | ||
| They have no feelings. | ||
| They have no emotions. | ||
| They don't give a fuck about you. | ||
| They don't pretend to. | ||
| This game of a general belief in the humanity, in the fundamental decency of the people who want to... | ||
| You know, run for office, who want this power because you think, you know, the people you know, the majority of us are good people. | ||
| So it's hard to conceive of somebody so far beyond that. | ||
| And that's why we're fascinated by serial killers, is because of this, like, I can't believe in this. | ||
| I can't believe that a person who looks like a human being is not. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's why it's fun to watch documentaries. | ||
| Not fun to live in the world right now. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Not a big fan. | ||
| But to the point about the press, too, a robust, healthy democracy, republic, whatever, it can contain a liar who's not punished. | ||
| Like, Alex Jones can exist within a free speech, free press paradigm very easily and has for 20 years. | ||
| And he's still not going to get arrested for the nonsense he's spouting. | ||
| It's totally fine. | ||
| But we can't have people who are legitimate reporters being demonized. | ||
| That the system can't contain. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, that will implode everything. | ||
| As we are watching unfold. | ||
| And the other thing, too, and this is the reality of it, Alex Jones' game can't be scrutinized. | ||
| Like, it can't really survive people actually paying attention to it. | ||
| So, he has to demonize the media as a self-preservation tactic. | ||
| Because, if people start paying attention, if we had funding to legitimately do this every day, document what he's saying, create this database that I'm working on of the narratives that he's pitched that were complete lies over the years, He'd just be like he'd be a laughingstock if the mainstream media really took their critical comb that they wash over. | ||
| I think that metaphor got away from me. | ||
| But if they scrutinized him the way they scrutinize real stories, he would be screwed. | ||
| And that's why he has to create like, oh, they're evil, they're fake. | ||
| It's all desperate self-preservation. | ||
| Again, it's preemptive damage control, but on a large, never-ending scale. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this next clip, Alex wants to talk about how Megyn Kelly's ugly. | ||
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| But there's a twist. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He wants to sound smart. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And I think he just learned the word Gorgon. | ||
| Ratings are sinking. | ||
| Her ratings were sinking at Fox. | ||
| She destroyed herself going after Trump. | ||
| And so they think having Mr. Controversy on, because I get top ratings anytime I'm on national TV, they think that will boost her. | ||
| Here's Morgan's highest ratings ever were when I was on. | ||
| But even Megan told me privately, or she thought privately, that, oh, I destroyed him. | ||
| Because after I was on his program, his ratings started dropping every day consecutively. | ||
| Because we just call these folks out. | ||
| And so Megan Kelly's playing with fire, obviously. | ||
| And nothing can save her show. | ||
| Nothing can save mainstream media. | ||
| Main Street Media has abysmally low ratings. | ||
| They've gone up a little bit attacking Trump because it makes media interesting again. | ||
| But compared to 10 years ago, they're a shadow of the former self. | ||
| You know, I went into the Gorgon's lair. | ||
| I went into Medusa's palace. | ||
| And I engaged her on her terms. | ||
| I let her be here from 9.30 in the morning. | ||
| She got here at noon, but her crew at 9.30 until almost 11 at night. | ||
| I let her have her way. | ||
| Because I knew it'd be rigged. | ||
| I knew she was lying to me. | ||
| I knew she was deceiving. | ||
| I knew it was a giant hit piece. | ||
| But they wanted me to go happily along with it and say nothing before it aired. | ||
| I'm not going to do that. | ||
| But understand, I win by going into the Gorgon's pit. | ||
| And I survive. | ||
| I survive going into that lair. | ||
| And that's what it's all about. | ||
| In fact, she hid over there in the dark. | ||
| She hid over there in the dark when she first got here, slithering in like the Gorgon. | ||
| Let's play some of that with audio of her coming into the studio last week. | ||
| Now he plays a clip from Jason and the Argonauts. | ||
| Clever. | ||
| Clever. | ||
| That's clever. | ||
| I dare not look directly at her. | ||
| I looked at her on monitors on the wall with cameras aimed at her. | ||
| And she had her arrows and she tried like she could to take her out. | ||
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Arrows? | |
| Is that part of the apology? | ||
| She's a keen, keen bow woman. | ||
| Whoops. | ||
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What? | |
| What's a bow woman? | ||
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What's a bow woman? | |
| That doesn't feel good. | ||
| Cold as ice. | ||
| A titan. | ||
| Willing to sacrifice. | ||
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Against a titan. | |
| Our luck. | ||
| See, to get to the Globalist, I've got to get the Gorgon's head, and then I can turn to the Titan, Soros, and look into the Gorgon's eyes. | ||
| Look into it yourself! | ||
| I face the Gorgon. | ||
| Megyn Kelly in studio. | ||
| It is true, when she was in studio, she was like back there in the dark. | ||
| That's not lit! | ||
| Well, we know how it all ends, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| That's how you run a show! | ||
| You don't like the whole fucking place. | ||
| That's part two coming up. | ||
| Now, before I go any further, just briefly, we're a lesser supporter under major globalist attack. | ||
| We make it easy to support us. | ||
| Give us money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He said Gorgon six times in that clip. | ||
| He likes the word Gorgon. | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| It is a fun word. | ||
| I do... | ||
| That was a fun, dumb little thing that he did. | ||
| Like, that's way better than I expected. | ||
| That was a silly fucking... | ||
| It's an indication that he doesn't have much. | ||
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No! | |
| But at the same time, even in the middle of that, she's a keen, keen bow woman. | ||
| Bow woman! | ||
| That was him going into his arrow sheath and finding nothing. | ||
| He's just trying to pull out something to insult her with. | ||
| Couldn't come up with Archer. | ||
| Yeah, that's like... | ||
| I mean, it's petty. | ||
| He's trying to say that she's ugly and all this. | ||
| And I don't... | ||
| I'm not down with that, but at the same time, that's just Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's classic Alex. | ||
| We can all have fun with that because the rest of this isn't going to be very fun. | ||
| Oh, why are you doing this? | ||
| So here he wants to attack... | ||
| Liberals? | ||
| I want weird-ass Jason and the Argonauts, Alex, back. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Well, it happened yesterday. | ||
| Also, I wanted to cover the most up-to-date Megyn Kelly stuff. | ||
| And on Tuesday, while we're recording this, Owen Schroyer was hosting. | ||
| So this is the most up-to-date as we're recording this. | ||
| Owen Schroyer was hosting? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| He's trying to get him ready for his own TV show on the network that's never going to happen. | ||
| The whole thing? | ||
| It's tough. | ||
| Owen Schroer is going to make a brief appearance at the end of our episode today, and it's insanity. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But this next clip, he gets really self-conscious about people thinking he's using dirty words, and he has to defend himself. | ||
| Dumbass! | ||
| Nope. | ||
| You'll see. | ||
| But then it spirals out of control into talking about how liberals are dumb. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And it gets away from him. | ||
| That's what's scary. | ||
| How about leftists is they claim they're all intellectual and they're really great and they're awesome. | ||
| They're not. | ||
| They're a bunch of drooling, puling, miscreant, malcontent boobies. | ||
| Now, before I go any further, that's not profane to say boobies. | ||
| Boobies is a South China Sea, multi-thousand-year-old name for pirates. | ||
| That's why they have a term booby trap. | ||
| The boobies also would set traps that would pop up like we do in Vietnam with spikes and kill you. | ||
| No FCC problems with me saying boobies. | ||
| I don't like the way you said it then. | ||
| Knowledge is not a conspiracy theory. | ||
| All you that think you're so-called intellectuals that are liberals need to understand you're not intellectuals. | ||
| You're imagining you're part of a winning team. | ||
| You're imagining you're part of the globalist system. | ||
| You're imagining you conquered America. | ||
| You're imagining how you're going to teach those three-year-olds how to perform sex acts on you. | ||
| That's what they teach in public schools now. | ||
| And you're just not going to get away with it. | ||
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Three-year-olds don't go to public school! | |
| You can't teach somebody who's not there! | ||
| Crazy people that are in your own fantasy land. | ||
| That wealth produced, that all of this wealth that freedom produced created a bunch of super-spoiled brats. | ||
| The seventh brat of the seventh brat. | ||
| And now you're just running around foaming at the mouth of your gleeful behavior, and it's not going to work forever. | ||
| It's coming down. | ||
| Here's the big news coming up, though, with Dr. Jerome Corsi. | ||
| Video emerges of Seth Rich questioning ballot integrity. | ||
| I'm sure that's a conspiracy theory video, too. | ||
| It is. | ||
| But I love that you got that. | ||
| I mean, that was probably my biggest point, is three-year-olds are not in school. | ||
| No, they are not in public school. | ||
| No. | ||
| And no one's teaching three-year-olds to have... | ||
| No one's teaching anyone sex acts at school. | ||
| No one even could! | ||
| Teach a three-year-old sex act. | ||
| I think that the only, like, sex act might be taught at school by peers. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, they might be like, hey, you know about sucking dicks? | ||
| Like, your friend might tell you that, or something like that. | ||
| Teachers are not broaching that at all. | ||
| From my experience in public schools, and I'm sure your experience was similar. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There is a sex ed talk. | ||
| There's a class. | ||
| There's a health class. | ||
| Mine was very, uh... | ||
| Anti-sex, period. | ||
| Very much. | ||
| And the teachers are uncomfortable as hell. | ||
| I remember there was a girl in my class who was laughing at something, and the teacher fucking freaked out on her. | ||
| He was just like, if you keep laughing, you're going to be taking notes for the rest of the class, or you're going to be getting out of here. | ||
| He was trying to keep things really on lock. | ||
| He was like, I gotta get through talking about condoms to these fucking middle schoolers, and I don't want to do this. | ||
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No one's happy about this. | |
| Look, I wasn't three. | ||
| No one's teaching anybody anything. | ||
| But the more important thing at the end there is Dr. Corsi has big breaking news about Seth Rich. | ||
| Can't we not do that, guys? | ||
| Guys, let that one go! | ||
| Here's why they really should have let it go. | ||
| I'm about to play you the video that they play. | ||
| And, you know, maybe you can decide if it means anything. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Let's play this Seth Rich clip. | ||
| The only guy that got gunned down in the back. | ||
| Here's the video that I want you to see of him questioning ballot integrity, dealing with him stealing the election from Bernie Sanders. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
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Excuse me, Seth Rich with the DNC. | |
| I think some of you have spoken about provisional ballots and rejected ballots. | ||
| I guess we've looked at, as an outside practitioner with a vested interest in training our vote... | ||
| Our voters, how do we get better access to data that tells us why ballots are rejected, why ballots are cast as provisional so that we can analyze that and then develop better training guides? | ||
| Can one of the election officials speak to any work you've done with either the parties or other groups on that type of information? | ||
| Again, that's the video that's emerged of Seth Rich questioning ballot integrity. | ||
| That was it? | ||
| That was the whole thing. | ||
| Seth Rich questioning ballot integrity during the election data summit. | ||
| That's nothing. | ||
| Corsi! | ||
| That's nothing. | ||
| Corsi! | ||
| You're supposed to be an expert! | ||
| That's nothing. | ||
| That's an absolute zero. | ||
| He's talking about provisional ballots and trying to better train the public how to use provisional ballots, which is a good thing to be asking about because it is a complicated issue. | ||
| Quite frankly, I don't know if I would know how to send in a provisional ballot. | ||
| Absolutely not! | ||
| So I wouldn't mind some education. | ||
| Couldn't... | ||
| Could you explain why ballots get rejected? | ||
| Is an amazingly good question. | ||
| Right, and that has nothing to do with some sort of a setup against Bernie Sanders. | ||
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No. | |
| It has nothing to do with even questioning the integrity of voting. | ||
| No. | ||
| So, they're just lying. | ||
| That's just a... | ||
| So, I want to flash back to a little bit earlier in the episode when Alex Jones was talking about, I'm so alive, it's crazy, my discernment is better than it's ever been. | ||
| How is your discernment allowing you to report on this video as something nefarious? | ||
| You understand? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's insane. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| That's bad discernment. | ||
| So Jerome Corsi is on, and most of it is about how... | ||
| He needs to listen to more Chance the Rapper. | ||
| He needs a more holistic discernment. | ||
| I don't not support that. | ||
| So, Corsi's on, and they just talk about how Alex is the victim of a propaganda campaign, and how Megyn Kelly is doing her job by coming to assassinate the character of Alex Jones. | ||
| A couple of big things happen. | ||
| The first is that Jerome Corsi finally says meme correctly. | ||
| Oh, well then fuck it, I'm back on his side, baby! | ||
| He says mem, I mean meme. | ||
| Fuck yes! | ||
| Then, not five minutes later. | ||
| That means there was a conversation with somebody. | ||
| It had to be Rob Du just being like, hey, Corsi, it's pronounced mean. | ||
| Not five minutes later. | ||
| You sound like a fucking idiot. | ||
| He says mem again. | ||
| Oh, Corsi! | ||
| So that's great. | ||
| But this, I was referring to earlier in the episode, I teased that Alex Jones was going to jump the shark. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And in this clip, Alex Jones invalidates his career. | ||
| What should Trump do? | ||
| I mean, he needs to get aggressive, call them out. | ||
| Sessions needs to start indicting some of these people. | ||
| Well, the presidency has enormous power, and Trump better start using it. | ||
| Better start realizing that in Washington, all these people are his enemy. | ||
| He's going to fire Priebus. | ||
| Don't wait until the end of June as he says he's going to give him more time. | ||
| Just fire him. | ||
| Get rid of all the people in the administration who have been there from Clinton and from Obama. | ||
| Get rid of them. | ||
| So far, okay. | ||
| Also, get rid of those people and then bring in a bunch of sycophants who will tell you that everything you're doing is right. | ||
| So far, though, still totally legal. | ||
| Still not the most insane thing ever. | ||
| I think it would be unwise and probably lead to a lot of trouble. | ||
| But not the worst thing I've ever heard. | ||
| No. | ||
| I do like that Jerome Corsi, his office, the Infowars studio in D.C., you could hear a motorcycle revving outside. | ||
| So real quality acoustics in there. | ||
| But now we get to... | ||
| God, I want him to have a picture not hanging up. | ||
| That would be the best. | ||
| That would be amazing. | ||
| If they just had a running gag. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah! | ||
| That would be like a weird little Easter egg, like a director has the same little tiny shot. | ||
| That could be his little wink that, like, I'm not. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I'm fucking around. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So this is where it gets bad. | ||
| And start using the Department of Justice and the FBI to investigate Comey, Clinton, and the others. | ||
| Fight back. | ||
| Counterattack. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Look, this is such tradition against the country and the attempted overthrow of our republic by clear outside forces. | ||
| I'd support the president right now moving against these people physically. | ||
| I mean, let's be honest. | ||
| We're in a war. | ||
| I would support the president making a military move on him right now. | ||
| The country's in that big a crisis. | ||
| We need to go ahead and move. | ||
| So there, Alex Jones, in one sentence, invalidates the entire premise of his career. | ||
| We need to have the government... | ||
| Take military action against its people. | ||
| No, against its own enemies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which conceivably would be some private citizens. | ||
| I would assume the media would fall into that because they're talking about people who are pushing this Russian meme propaganda that they think the Russian stuff is all fake. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Even though they know it's not. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| Jerome Corsi saying fire all these people is okay. | ||
| It's wrong, but it's okay. | ||
| Him saying we need to indict Comey, Clinton, Obama is an abuse of power, but it's not that bad. | ||
| The idea of the president telling the FBI to do this is a gross misrepresentation of what the president's relationship to the FBI should be. | ||
| Should be. | ||
| Especially not if he's under investigation currently. | ||
| It's very bad, but at the same time, it's... | ||
| Because of how the sentence ends, it's kind of in the wheelhouse of like, alright, that's abuse of power, but we gotta hold off. | ||
| Because Alex Jones legitimately just said a military coup. | ||
| Cleaning out, acting on the people who are against Trump with the military. | ||
| He has made documentary films called The Road to Tyranny. | ||
| Things like that. | ||
| Everything that he talks about is a... | ||
| It's fine if I do it. | ||
| His entire premise is that these globalists are going to have some sort of a coup. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| So we need a counter, counter, counter, counter coup. | ||
| It's not okay. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's absolutely not okay. | ||
| That is... | ||
| He says it again later in the episode, but I ran out of time cutting clips. | ||
| I didn't get to it. | ||
| But he absolutely didn't say that flippantly. | ||
| He meant it. | ||
| No, he did. | ||
| He meant that the military needs to get involved. | ||
| I don't know what the military would be doing, first of all, acting within the country's borders. | ||
| I think that's part of what he was really afraid about with Agenda, or not Agenda 21, Jade Helm. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| I think that's something that's problematic. | ||
| And then secondarily... | ||
| That's literally Caesar! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's quite literally what Caesar did to seize power! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So the other thing is, what would the military do against these people other than kill them? | ||
| The military is going to arrest them? | ||
| Put them in Abu Ghraib, man. | ||
| Sure, there's openings. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Put them in Guantanamo Bay. | ||
| That, to me, is one of the most offensive things I've ever heard Alex Jones say, and is something I would bring up in my Megyn Kelly-style interview. | ||
| Why do you support the idea of your guy having a military coup? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because that's what he called for. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's not... | ||
| He said bring military action, but... | ||
| Acting upon these people physically. | ||
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| What do you... | ||
| Beat them up? | ||
| What else is there to say? | ||
| What is there? | ||
| That's... | ||
| That's so... | ||
| Like, that's crossing a huge line. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now, thankfully, that's not going to happen. | ||
| Yeah, all this idea of free market, all of this, like... | ||
| Less government is all gone. | ||
| Yeah, it's all bullshit. | ||
| The moment you want a military coup, all of that's done. | ||
| And you want a military coup to stop an investigation that has a lot of evidence behind it. | ||
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| That your guy is wildly corrupt and working with a hostile foreign power. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So, the idea that you would do that is only because you know that eventually something's going to come out that is going to be irrefutable. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| And, I mean, Alex does kind of know that. | ||
| He has to. | ||
| Well, I mean, in 2015, he knew he was mobbed up. | ||
| In 2015, he knew that he was the front man for a consortium on the East Coast. | ||
| He knows all this stuff. | ||
| A consortium that launders Russian money. | ||
| Yeah, he knows that. | ||
| He can't pretend he doesn't know that. | ||
| That knowledge that he had two years ago is still in his head. | ||
| He's just pretending it's not there anymore. | ||
| He's pretending he doesn't know these things. | ||
| So whenever he talks about, like, this Russian thing is fake, he knows it's not. | ||
| And the idea that in order to stop it, you would want the president to order the military to act physically upon his opponents is... | ||
| That is treason. | ||
| That is wishing treason. | ||
| I'm not saying Alex is committing treason. | ||
| That's wishing the destruction of the American Republic entirely. | ||
| In the name of protecting it. | ||
| Which is, I mean, that's what all scoundrels do. | ||
| The classic move. | ||
| That's what Erdogan did in Turkey. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| That's exactly what he did. | ||
| Fake coup. | ||
| That's what the Cultural Revolution was about in China. | ||
| All of these authoritarian powers will always say, you don't need these rights. | ||
| We're going to protect you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We're the ones who can do all of this stuff, so you don't need to think about it. | ||
| And we've got to do it because these other fake people are trying to take me out. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| We're protecting the country. | ||
| So Alex Jones put it that way in this clip, but in case you're a nerd, he put it another way in this next clip. | ||
| But here's the issue. | ||
| You've got to look at this whole thing is that the deep state is planning an assassination. | ||
| They're desensitizing the public. | ||
| With this assassination play, with the Kathy Griffin beheading. | ||
| I knew he was going to bring up Kathy Griffin. | ||
| I knew it! | ||
| Alex, you've got to be taken out or made to seem to be a Russian agent. | ||
| And that's what Megyn Kelly's assignment was. | ||
| Hey, Corsi, what was that big story that you were going to get killed over? | ||
| This is an assignment. | ||
| This is deep state. | ||
| This is the entire backing of the inner forces within the government that are opposing Donald Trump. | ||
| Learn to use the power of the presidency now. | ||
| Fire Priebus. | ||
| Get rid of the Obama and Clinton carryovers and start using the Department of Justice and the FBI. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| He needs to execute order number 66. All right. | ||
| Thank you so much, Dr. Corsi. | ||
| We'll have our members of the crew in studio. | ||
| That was for the nerds. | ||
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He called for Trump to kill the Jedi. | |
| If you're keeping track, if you're keeping track, Order 66, in the Star Wars universe... | ||
| Revenge of the Sith. | ||
| ...is what destroys the entire world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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It's the clones killing the Jedi. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So the evil empire... | ||
| Ending the Republic, yes. | ||
| So the evil empire can rise. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex, you shouldn't raise it like that. | ||
| You shouldn't do that. | ||
| You know... | ||
| You know those movies that you love so much about a horrible, restrictive empire being defeated by a lovable group of rebels? | ||
| We should really love the empire more. | ||
| That's the real message of this. | ||
| We got the Star Wars mythology wrong. | ||
| Palpatine was just trying to do a good job and defeat the Universalists. | ||
| Well, Palpatine brought in prosperity and small business numbers. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And he protected borders. | ||
| How many contractors had to work on the Death Star? | ||
| So many. | ||
| So many! | ||
| They couldn't do that with a universal workforce, and you don't want to federalize that, so you use the free market to keep costs down, and I'm guessing that he didn't even pay those contractors. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| No. | ||
| Especially not on the second Death Star when they were still building it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In this episode, there's three instances, and I apologize, I don't have audio of the third one, but there's three instances of Alex legitimately saying that Trump needs to militarily act on his enemies. | ||
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| And if that's where the rhetoric is at, that tells me a couple things. | ||
| First, this interview is a damaging, damaging piece. | ||
| Because he's in panic mode. | ||
| And second, if the rhetoric evolves from here, we're in very serious trouble. | ||
| Like, I don't know where else it can go. | ||
| Well, where else does it go? | ||
| If the military won't do it, patriots have to. | ||
| That's where it goes. | ||
| I think he can probably say that legally for a bit. | ||
| But if he gets too descriptive with it or too literal, then he really enters into inciting violence. | ||
| That's a crime. | ||
| Yeah, but I think you can still say, if the government won't do it, patriots should. | ||
| I think you can still say that legally. | ||
| It's murky, but I think it's free speech. | ||
| Yeah, that could be. | ||
| Man, that sure seems like... | ||
| I'm against it, but I think it's still legal. | ||
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| Yeah, I know. | ||
| So that is... | ||
| I really think that Alex Jones abandoned every single one of his principles in the span of like three minutes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But the show's not over. | ||
| And in the span of two years. | ||
| The show's not over. | ||
| We got a couple clips left. | ||
| Because what ends up happening a little bit later on the show is that Rob Dew and Owen Schroer went out to the anti-Sharia marches over the weekend. | ||
| Oh, fuck off. | ||
| And the way they present it is that radical Muslims and communists have teamed up and that they were being attacked. | ||
| All of these anti-Sharia people were being attacked by the coalition of Muslims and communists. | ||
| I can't fathom any crossover there! | ||
| No, but I think that probably some of the people who were... | ||
| Protesting the alt-right publicity stunt. | ||
| There probably were some Muslims in there, probably some anarchists, probably some communists. | ||
| There's probably a very diverse group of people who are against the bigotry march. | ||
| If you think people are for Sharia law and communism, you've lost your fucking mind. | ||
| Well, people protesting the anti-Sharia march weren't pro-Sharia law. | ||
| They were just anti-these LARPing assholes. | ||
| No, no, no, I'm talking about the anti-Sharia law people. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| They have to, if they're pulling that narrative, they think that somehow Sharia law is compatible with communism. | ||
| Well, no, it's the communists or the idiots who are going to bring in the necessary circumstances where Sharia law can take over, then the communists will be beheaded. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's a bad plan by the communists. | ||
| We gotta get the word out to the communists not to trust the surreal law people. | ||
| Yeah, the non-existent surreal law people. | ||
| I saw a ton of pictures from these marches and these demonstrations and they were fucking hilarious. | ||
| There were just a bunch of people in armor and knights armor. | ||
| For real knights! | ||
| Not like Teflon. | ||
| We're talking Crusades armor. | ||
| Yes, there were some dudes in straight up Holy Roman Empire garb. | ||
| There were just tons of people with guns. | ||
| It was fucking insane. | ||
| It seems like Civil War reenactors got bored with reenacting the Civil War. | ||
| It's fan fiction now. | ||
| So they went back to the Crusades. | ||
| A lot of them were modern day dressed just with tons of guns and stuff like that. | ||
| I think it is probably that the Civil War reenactors are like, we need a gritty reboot. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| This is the Batman Begins for Civil War reenactment. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| So Rob Du and Owen Schroyer are in studio to discuss their experience and what have you. | ||
| Also, Owen Schroyer's been playing a clip during the commercial breaks. | ||
| So whenever they go to commercial... | ||
| Of them killing Jedi? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| That's for tomorrow. | ||
| Alex, don't kill the younglings! | ||
| Then you'll have gone too far! | ||
| You'll be no better than John Podesta. | ||
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| And believe me, you do not want Trump as your Emperor Palpatine. | ||
| No. | ||
| That is a bad plan. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| At least Emperor Palpatine was evil and smart. | ||
| Negotiated his way from being one Sith Lord into running an empire? | ||
| That's pretty impressive. | ||
| And killing all the Jedi? | ||
| That's amazing! | ||
| He didn't even inherit a lot of money from his dad. | ||
| No! | ||
| He worked his way up. | ||
| He's a real story of raising yourself up by your bootstraps. | ||
| Americana. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whenever you're watching it on the website or on the live stream, they don't play commercials that would be played on the radio. | ||
| But the time still has to be cut out. | ||
| So what they do is they play 30-second reports from their reporters. | ||
| And Owen Schroer's been talking about how at these anti-Sharia marches, everybody are bigoted against the right. | ||
| And Lauren Southern got hit with a water balloon full of piss. | ||
| That's pretty great. | ||
| But he's like... | ||
| Lauren Southern was out there and a balloon full of urine hit him. | ||
| It says him. | ||
| Wait, so Lauren Southern, him. | ||
| Well, I did some looking into this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It turns out that as a goof, Lauren Southern, like protesting the absurdity of transgender stuff, changed her gender. | ||
| She became a man. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| No one cared. | ||
| She became a man legally? | ||
| From what I understand, yeah. | ||
| And it turns out that it's, you know, people are very supportive of that in Canada. | ||
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And so it kind of backfired in her face because everyone's just like, all right. | |
| Good for you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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No one made a big deal. | |
| Everyone's very tolerant. | ||
| How did you think that was going to cause a backlash in Canada? | ||
| So I don't know if that's... | ||
| Maybe in Kentucky. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Come on, Canada? | ||
| I don't know if that's what Owen Schroer is like. | ||
| Like, referring to, or if it's just a misspeaking. | ||
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| But, like, I looked into it, it's fucking insane. | ||
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That's... | |
| These people are so dumb. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| She... | ||
| That's fucking hilarious. | ||
| It's bad trolling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, they get into studio, and they're gonna go over what they experienced out there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But unfortunately, right around when they're due, the ruling comes in that the Ninth Circuit Court has shot down the appeal. | ||
| Who would have guessed? | ||
| And so Alex is not happy about that, and he gets into it in this next clip. | ||
| Trump loses travel ban ruling in appeals court. | ||
| And get ready for this. | ||
| A second federal appeals court on Monday ruled against President Trump's revised travel ban. | ||
| It's totally in law the president can do this. | ||
| The decision from the United States Court of Appeals, the Ninth Circuit in San Francisco, that's overturned 80-plus percent of the time, was the latest in a string of court rulings rejected by the administration's efforts to limit travel from several predominantly Muslim countries. | ||
| Yes, failed states that don't even have working airports like Somalia. | ||
| Then how did they get here? | ||
| Hey, let me tell you a little bit about Somalia. | ||
| We already went over the idea that the imams are giving out passports. | ||
| That's not true at all. | ||
| Some people are able to make fake passports. | ||
| And that we have an entire country of pirates. | ||
| Official Somali passports have biometric indicators in them, and they're very difficult to actually fake. | ||
| But also, here's a fun fact for you. | ||
| As of 2012, Somalia has 62 airports. | ||
| Seven of them have paved runways. | ||
| Oh, that's good. | ||
| I mean, they do have working airports. | ||
| The Aden Aden International Airport in Mogadishu has international flights that run consistently. | ||
| What Alex might be talking about is that there was a civil war in 1991 in Somalia. | ||
| And they took down the airport. | ||
| Yeah, the airport was kind of closed down during that. | ||
| Their flight services experienced routine disruptions. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But that was in 1991. | ||
| And in Somalia, how many people are there? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Six airports is probably enough. | ||
| 62. 62. Or, yeah, I'm sorry. | ||
| Seven with paved runways. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Seven with paved runways was my situation there. | ||
| Like, how many people are in Somalia? | ||
| It can't be that many. | ||
| There are nine airports that have commercial service at them, and the other ones are all... | ||
| The estimated population is 16.3 million people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, in Chicago, we have two airports for three million people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They have nine airports that have commercial traffic for 16 million people. | ||
| Yeah, that's perfect. | ||
| Spread out through a country. | ||
| Yeah, that's perfect. | ||
| That's the correct number of airports. | ||
| And there's a ton of people who don't need airports in Somalia, quite frankly. | ||
| The population, there's a large... | ||
| Well, because they're all pirates. | ||
| Well, there's that. | ||
| They have boats. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The other thing is they have a large... | ||
| There's a lot of rural area throughout the country. | ||
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| So people just have no use for airports. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Other than bringing stuff in, which is the other 51 airports that have dirt runways. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which, if you think that there aren't dirt runway airports in America, you're fucking insane. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There are tons of them. | ||
| There are dirt runway airports in fucking St. Charles out west. | ||
| Like, it's a population of... | ||
| 45 people? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| So that was dumb, and Alex is sort of... | ||
| I know that he thinks that it's going to go to the Supreme Court and everything's going to be okay, and we'll see. | ||
| I hope not. | ||
| It can't possibly. | ||
| We're going to close this episode out with something that's just racist as hell, stupid, but also kind of endearing in a small way. | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| You have confused me in so many different directions, I don't want any explanation. | ||
| Well, I feel like I need to before, just so it doesn't sound like I think racism is endearing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex and Owen Schroyer are being racist as fuck. | ||
| Rob Dew is trying to do his job, and that's what's endearing. | ||
| Rob Dew is kind of adorable, and he just has to put up with these two goddamn... | ||
| Idiots. | ||
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These jabronis over here who won't let him do his news report. | |
| He's on there to do a report. | ||
| And he's trying. | ||
| He's trying. | ||
| He's giving it his college best. | ||
| And he can't. | ||
| Because Alex Jones has got to get racist and immature as fuck. | ||
| Mic down for this one. | ||
| This is incredible, gentlemen. | ||
| And Alex, all these countries too, they found them in Libya, they found them in Syria, where they're making their own passports. | ||
| They're making fake passports to send these people out. | ||
| Because the airports are all bombed out hellholes. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You have these failed days? | ||
| Here, I am your imam! | ||
| You are good! | ||
| G-O-O-D, Habib! | ||
| Habib! | ||
| Habibi! | ||
| Kill them, Infidel! | ||
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It just makes you wonder what planet these people are on. | |
| You get passport! | ||
| Kill Infidel! | ||
| You get passport! | ||
| Here, kill them! | ||
| Blow up, Manchester! | ||
| But I'm 33! | ||
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I'm a 33-year-old man! | |
| No, no! | ||
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You 16-year-old, year-old boy! | |
| Your name... | ||
| Boy, side name here. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| Your name, boy. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| 16. Oh, we love you, Obama. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
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I mean, I can't believe this has gone through two of these. | |
| Wait, you need passport? | ||
| We come to your country to get your women, kafir infidel. | ||
| You want one? | ||
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Let me see. | |
| You with beard. | ||
| You seven-year-old boy. | ||
| Year old boy. | ||
| Seven and a half. | ||
| Seven and a half. | ||
| Seven-year-old. | ||
| Are you signed? | ||
| Here's your passport. | ||
| Signed by imam. | ||
| Let me wipe ass in Islam. | ||
| Here is your sent-em. | ||
| Sign name, boy. | ||
| Seven-year-old boy. | ||
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With me and my 20 friends here. | |
| All 30-year-old men. | ||
| All five-year-old boy. | ||
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I'm coming to the U.S. I think the proper response to this, Alex, is, I guess, gallows humor. | |
| That's not gallows humor. | ||
| That's racism. | ||
| But also, that's a minute and a half of just out-and-out racism. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's insanity. | ||
| But Rob Du was trying. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So there's a couple thoughts that I have about that. | ||
| Fucking wow. | ||
| First, they have to pitch this narrative that adult men are being classified as children because otherwise the official statistics about refugees don't match up with their narrative. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Because they say that all of them are military-aged men that are coming across. | ||
| Right, instead of women and children. | ||
| But that's not true at all. | ||
| There's the plurality. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| order to get around that they're like no they're lying to you there's there's adults with children being classified as children that's the game that they're playing there right now further i do not see a large difference between what we just listened to and let's say i don't know 70 years ago someone being like you know what look not all black people are bad but oh i'm so ho oh i want to do oh i want to get your women now you know like doing Yeah, that's a minstrel show. | ||
| There's really not much difference. | ||
| That is as offensive as that. | ||
| And as stupid, as childish, as not rooted in reality. | ||
| And I pray to God that it will... | ||
| As rooted in white supremacy. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But I also pray that that sort of thing that we can see right now in the present day, we can see that being like, that's fucking racist as shit. | ||
| We know what you're doing. | ||
| I pray that... | ||
| 20 years from now, 5 years from now, you can look back on that sort of behavior the same way that we look back on the Sambo type show. | ||
| Thank God we don't do that anymore. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what I want the future to say. | ||
| Thank God. | ||
| Thank God those fucking idiots died. | ||
| Thank God Alex Jones didn't do that yesterday. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| So, I hope that interview goes well on Sunday, Alex. | ||
| It's not going to. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's going to be a disaster. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Although not a disaster to the level that we would enjoy. | ||
| Not a disaster in the way that we would have orchestrated it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So anyway, I'd like to thank everybody who's spreading the word about the show. | ||
| We really appreciate it. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| People, you know, this Each One Teach One campaign is not going exactly right. | ||
| It's more like a few are telling a lot of people. | ||
| Yeah, and that's great. | ||
| We're very grateful for that. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| If you want to point them to somewhere to follow us at, where would you go? | ||
| Knowledgefight.com, my friend. | ||
| That's where you would go. | ||
| You can follow us on Twitter. | ||
| Knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| At knowledge. | ||
| Unterscore fights? | ||
| Unterscore. | ||
| Also, I like this. | ||
| I'm seeing it happen a bit, and I'd like to reinforce the behavior and encourage it. | ||
| If you see people tweeting about Alex Jones, just fucking get in their replies. | ||
| At those assholes. | ||
| And tell them, get your perspective right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Get in the knowledge fight. | ||
| Don't play this reactionary ping-pong game of outrage. | ||
| Get in the actual knowledge fight where we can make headway against Alex. | ||
| We can not necessarily take him down, but we can play a game he can't respond to. | ||
| I don't want to take him down in the same way that I don't want to... | ||
| I don't give a fuck about the cult leader. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| These people who support Alex Jones are only getting hurt by the shit that they believe in. | ||
| They're the ones who Trump is fucking over. | ||
| These are the people who are actively being destroyed. | ||
| These are the people who are just like us struggling their asses off. | ||
| And instead of engaging with reality and in doing their best to kind of fight against it, they're regressing into this fantasy world where they don't have to experience any of this responsibility. | ||
| And the difference between those people and you and I are possibly two bad choices that happened somewhere down the line or maybe something that wasn't even their choice. | ||
| Or peer pressure. | ||
| Peer pressure. | ||
| Some sort of abuse. | ||
| They were raised in one environment. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, you might be a victim of the Alex Jones. | ||
| And they are victims. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But they have a lot of selenium and iodine in them. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And that's great. | ||
| And their gallbladder? | ||
| Real clean. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| They hate their wives because their wives have stopped enjoying getting fucked that hard. | ||
| That's just Rob Dew. | ||
| That's just Rob Dew? | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So, also, if you want to donate to the show, we would appreciate it. | ||
| There's a button over on knowledgefight.com to support the show. | ||
| Become a policy wonk, or if you'd like, donate, what was it? | ||
| $10 a month to time travel. | ||
| And we will do a time travel episode for you. | ||
| Those are a little bit on hold slightly as I go through my 2015 investigation, but we will pop them in as we can. | ||
| But anyway, thank you all so much. | ||
| This has been fun. | ||
| But hey, you know what? | ||
| This, like, Alex's sort of narrative that this interview is a trap and that he's going to come out ahead, that narrative, dead. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dead as a doornail. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But. | ||
| But what? | ||
| There's one guy who ain't dead. | ||
| Is it, uh, is it, what's his name? | ||
| I think it's Batman. | ||
| It's Batman? | ||
| Rappaport still lives! | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air, thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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| I love your work. |