Knowledge Fight - #52: July 14-21, 2015

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#52: July 14-21, 2015

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Knowledge Fight dissects Alex Jones’ July 14–21, 2015, rants—from his failed "news roundtable" promises and Trump skepticism (despite later alignment) to debunked claims like Seattle’s "brown bag ban," Planned Parenthood demonization, and UN troop conspiracies tied to State Department Memo 7277. His son Rex’s GMO book report reveals exploitative parenting, while gendered supplement ads ("Super Female Vitality") mock his hypocrisy. Jones’ unchecked propaganda, from Charleston shooter logic to "purple penguin" school myths, underscores his pattern of fearmongering without accountability, proving his rhetoric thrives on absurdity and manipulation. [Automatically generated summary]
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alex jones

infowars 29:32

dan friesen

01:27:44

jordan holmes

46:16

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jesse ventura

02:03

larry elder

01:40

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chuck baldwin

00:17

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john in alabama

callers 02:36

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Show episode speakers

Speaker	Time	Text
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a first Tim Color.
		I'm a huge fan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're a couple of dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's correct.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Today we have Sprecker, a fire-brewed cherry cran gourmet soda.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is definitely gourmet.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Cherry cran.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't hold on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Prediction.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Prediction.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is it going to be cherry cran-cola or just cherry cranberry?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What do you think?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't actually know what applying the word cola means.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it means it would taste like a Coke, but with cherry cranberry flavoring.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or is it just straight-up fruit soda?
unidentified		Let's go with Coke with Cherry Coke.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's find out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here we go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The big reveal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan taking a swig.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is fucking delicious.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is so good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a first.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's so good.
		I'm going to drink six of these.
		Yes.
		What does it taste like?
		I have no idea.
		No clue.
		Right now, all I can experience is joy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will open mine up during our first clip, but first, let's get to an out-of-context drop of Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Before we do that, let me ask you a question about this show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember how we're professionals at this, apparently?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, fair enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Listen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can we take that again?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		From the top.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a twist to this show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is there a twist?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
		Let's get to an out-of-context drop.
		Ad liberal.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And liberal!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm liberal!
unidentified		I rule!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		At liberal!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, that's a good one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's pretty good out of context drop.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to give a shout-out to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is he also doing riddles with fucking Frodo in the dark?
unidentified		Does that sound like some sort of weird troll being?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to give a shout out to someone who is not a troll being, ladies and gentlemen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is some great, great segues.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a first honorary policy wonk, because I don't know if this guy donates to the show, but I've been putting off writing back an email to listener Brian for quite a while.
		He sent me what may be the world's greatest email.
		Okay.
		Really sort of lifts my spirits.
		Whenever I feel like it doesn't matter that we're doing the show, I can take a little look at this email and be like, all right, that's very reassuring, and I appreciate it very much to the point where I've been trying to write him back for about two weeks, and I can't.
		I sit down and I feel like an asshole, so instead of writing you back, Brian, I'd like to thank you publicly and give you an honorary policy won status.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Welcome aboard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Welcome aboard, Brian.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't need to give money to be a policy wonk apparently.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Your email was so good that Dan apparently kept it to himself and did not tell me about it, which I can only assume means you talk some serious shit about me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all about how much you suck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's all about how the show is garbage and it should just be Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan yells too much.
unidentified		We just want Dan's analysis.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Said nobody.
		No, it was more just I was embarrassed that it was so positive.
		I have to hide those things.
		Anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you very much, Brian.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It really does mean a lot whenever people say nice things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Indeed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It really does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or unnice things about Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So today, Jordan, we're going to be embarking in part four of my investigation into what the fuck happened to Alex Jones in 2015.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Today, we're going to be covering the time span of July 14th through July 21st, 2015.
		It's going to be strange.
		It's a weird road ahead, but there's a lot of stuff that's very worth discussing.
		And Alex Jones being very weird.
		Very weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His headspace is so fucked up.
		And I think I've started to piece a few things together.
		I'm going to give you some of this analysis up front.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that Alex Jones, more than being just a propagandist, is someone who's tricked by propaganda very easily.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would make sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That follows.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think I like to play the game where there's something super nefarious going on and Roger Stone is pulling the strings behind him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As do we all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that may be the case.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But a very simple explanation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, hopefully for the popularity of our show, it's the case.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, if we break that, that would be huge.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That'd be huge, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If it turns out he's just an idiot, then we all feel kind of weird, don't we?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		that everyone's like he knew that yeah i'm starting breaking scientists have discovered that alex jones is a fucking moron i'm I'm starting to get a sense that possibly a lot of his transformation that happens in 2015 is that there is weaponized propaganda going around, and he is as much a proponent of it as he is a victim of it.
		And one of the things that made that click into place was I was listening very carefully to James Comey's testimony last week.
		And one of the things that he was asked was, when did the FBI become first aware of Russian hacking and Russian influence campaigns?
		And his answer was summer of 2015, which is right around the era when we're talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've noticed a lot of instances of Alex believing bullshit stories.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That were deliberately or at least possibly traced back to those kind of Russian propaganda campaigns.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's possible.
		I don't know if we can definitively say that.
		We can definitely say that he believes complete lies.
		Right.
		And he would be susceptible to that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Circumstantially, it does seem to make sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If he was hacked.
unidentified		Ooh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's all sorts of shit that happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now we've got a different nefarious campaign.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm loving it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's entirely possible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm loving it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because if you were someone who was trying to use influence campaigns, if you were trying to use propaganda to sway public opinion, one of the very obvious targets would be Alex Jones.
		He's clearly crazy.
		He's hiding something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His finances are out of control.
		He has a lunatic fringe of audience.
		Like, it would be someone who you'd obviously want to blackmail.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A lunatic fringe that we can probably safely say is proportionally more violent than the rest of us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So I don't know if any of this will bear out, but that's something that I'm starting to look at and starting to feel is that he just falls for propaganda really easily.
		And we'll see a bit of it over the course of this episode.
		But first, let's start in July 14th.
		Alex Jones has an interesting ride on July 14th, but he has one big announcement that he starts the show with.
		And this is very exciting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because at the end of this clip, I will explain why this excites the shit out of me.
		But I think you'll know.
		I think you'll be able to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think it'll be obvious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, strap yourselves in.
		It's going to be a power-packed, loaded transmission today.
		And we're going to be going live right into the fourth hour.
		Most stations carry just the first three hours.
		For years, I did four hours.
		And a lot of stations still carry the fourth hour.
		That's a re-air of the first hour.
		Or some stations carry the second, third, and fourth hour.
		It varies.
		But I am looking at bringing back, I will announce here on air, sometime this year, the fourth hour.
		But making the fourth hour an intense news broadcast with a fourth hour roundtable discussion where more than 50 news articles will be covered every day.
		Boom, boom, boom.
		Throw the topic out.
		Get a quick comment from the people on the panel.
		Take a call.
		Go to the next story.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How say you on Globalists?
		They suck.
		All right, so first of all, he failed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Making a news-heavy roundtable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A news-heavy.
		God damn it, Alex.
		That's a pipe dream, even for you, sir.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But bringing back the fourth hour means we're this much closer to John Rappaport.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that is true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because he is a fourth hour host.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He can't exist within the context of three hours, but once the fourth hour comes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is there a possibility that we'll stumble upon an episode where he does try this fourth hour, and that is the beginning of Rappaport.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He does do the fourth hour on this episode on July 14th.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he has Leanne McAdoo host.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, when we're talking about the round table.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, like, he tries that out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bro, I don't think he ever does that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because of, I mean, but come on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just the idea of Alex trying to coexist with three other people allowed to talk at the same time.
		No.
		Zero chance.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I think his premise...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it would be a beautiful fire.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think the premise is he's not involved in the fourth hour.
		Okay.
		I think he is saying, because he does get into, like, I've been secretly training the anchors, having them on air.
unidentified		Why?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Secretly?
		Just train them.
		That's a good idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've been putting them on air.
		They don't know I'm building to something.
		David Knight.
		Anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But they should know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's their job.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Another thing he talks about is how he's going to launch a TV network, which is important because he's lying about that currently.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Two years later, he's still saying we're about to do this.
		Roger Stone's going to have a TV show.
		Mike Cernovich is going to get a show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Any moment now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So I think there's reasons not to get too freaked out about Alex's stated plans in 2017 of having a TV network.
		I don't think we need to worry too much about that.
		But if it does happen, we do need to be very worried.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think it would rapidly become the most sued TV network in history.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, that worries me just because I don't know if I'm ready to allow my tax dollars to go to that many legal suits.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember how Spike TV immediately got sued because Spike Lee was like, that's my name?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I did not remember that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This will get sued faster.
		So I can't say this enough.
		Bring on the Rappaport.
		I am excited for that to happen.
		Leanne McAdoo hosts the fourth hour in this episode, and she is not ready.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think it's just very silly how somehow we've developed this weird fascination with John Rappaport to the point where now I'm kind of rooting for him.
		I am too.
		He's the worst.
		He's a fucking miserable monster who tries to rip fun and joy from everyone and spread this bullshit vaccination lie.
		But at the same time, look at you.
		Look at you.
		You're a weirdo monster that lives in a cave that can't fucking hang a goddamn Peyton.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's part of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How can I not love this man?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a big part of it.
		The other part is that he looks like a druid.
		He's a googly-eyed Muppet druid.
		Anyway, we'll get to John Rappaport when he shows up.
		He hasn't even showed up in an interview up to this point.
		So I don't even know where he is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But where was he found?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want an origin story.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Other realms.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want an origin story on John Rappaport.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is he Radagast the Brown, I think is the greater question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Gray.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's Gandalf.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's Gandalf.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I apologize.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Radagast was the Brown.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not a big enough nerd.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a big old nerd for the Lords of the Ringoos.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So some people have sort of religious feelings about Lord of the Rings.
		Would you agree with that?
		Some people sort of take it on as a religion.
		I'm talking about nerds here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I feel like you're leading me towards something, and I don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a trap.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is not a smooth trap.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a trap.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a terrible transition.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, this soda is really good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's delicious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones wants to talk about why he's been getting more religious lately.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if you think that it's a complete thought, you're wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This soda is like Galadriel's water.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Shut up, nerd.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Galadriel.
		People could say before I get into all this news and tell you about the guests that are coming up that why are you getting more and more religious?
		Well, it's been said many times: there are no atheists in foxholes.
		And when you read about babies wrapped in gold foil being shipped out of China by the thousands every month and being turned into powder for women mainly to eat it, believing it makes them look younger and nobody seems to care.
		When you look at hundreds of millions of abortions every year worldwide, when you look at the globalists poisoning our food and water supply by design and forcing gardasil shots on young girls all over the planet, when you look at our government funding ISIS and al-Qaeda, when you look at the borders wide open and El Chapo, now we learn, had his wife move here to have her baby so he'd have an anchor baby.
		The billionaire drug dealer even lives off U.S. taxpayers.
		I mean, it's a joke.
		And so that's why I'm committing to fight as hard as I can.
		The British Special Forces slogan for the Special Air Services, the model of Special Forces worldwide, I mean, they were the first to do it, SAS, is fortune favors the bold.
		Well, I'm here to tell you, in the face of them coming after our guns, coming after our health, coming after everything, fortune favors the bold.
		What is our fortune?
		What made our fortune?
		What made the prosperity and the freedom?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Our forebearers getting back down.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They refused to be down.
		A lot of them came from super servitude, slavery, you name it.
		But they persevered to the point where at, and our ancestors aren't losers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Get that wrong.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Whether you're black, whether you're white, whether you're Hispanic or Asian, all peoples of the earth have incredible histories of incredible adversity and overcoming it.
		And that's why we're here today.
		The fact that your parents and their grandparents and their great-great-great-great-grandparents were able to have children and have them survive and pass that torch forward.
		And the fact that we're alive today as a species and dominant on this planet is because we're winners.
		And I'm sick of people telling us we're not winners.
unidentified		I don't understand what this is supposed to be about.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Consciousness is incredible.
		An incredible God made you.
		Whether you believe in God or not, look around you.
		Reality is fantastic.
		Twelve dimensions they've discovered.
		Scientists believe it's probably life in other dimensions.
		What do you think all this is?
		We only see a very narrow spectrum of light just in the light spectrum of this dimension.
		The eye has not seen, the ear has not heard what God, the universe, whatever you want to call it, has in store for us.
		And we're not going to let the globalists wall off reality, put us in a matrix to control us, dumb us down, and then phase us out like we're a horse and buggy whip in 1920 and the factories are closing because nobody buys buggies and buggy whips and horses anymore.
		We are the innovators.
		We are the great creation.
		We are in the image of the great creator.
		We are special.
		We are powerful.
		And that's why the fortune wants to bring us down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's why Alex has been getting more religious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Was there actually a reason in there?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was that There's no atheists in foxholes, and he thinks the globalists are committing war on us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, they're causing all the abortions and the gardasil.
		How many people are born every year?
		Hundreds of people die.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Billions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know statistics on that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		We're at like 7.5 billion on the planet right now.
		So I assume it's like, I don't know, 100 million babies born a year and then like 70 million people dying a year, something like that.
		So if there were hundreds of millions of abortions, that means that if he were to stop abortions, it's entirely possible we would have 12 billion people on this planet next year.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, according to the CDC, the Centers for Disease Control, in 2013, 664,435 legal-induced abortions were reported.
		So that's in the United States.
		So hundreds of millions worldwide, obviously.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other stuff is crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like the babies covered in gold foil.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was my favorite.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I immediately got a Willy Wonka's factory situation going there where babies were on conveyor belts and they were just being rolled up in gold.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There was a guy who got arrested with some babies covered in foil, like mummified babies that he was trying to transport back to China from the Philippines or something like that.
		I don't remember the origin country, but the reason he was doing that is because China has a very interesting relationship with fetuses and babies, especially ones that have died.
		They have a whole tradition around abortion where if you get an abortion, you're supposed to create a shrine to the baby and worship the fetus ghost.
		You're supposed to appease the fetus ghost, bring it food and stuff like that to help it live in the other worlds.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's like a botchling from old Norse mythology.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I don't know enough to speak on why someone would want to buy some stranger baby.
		I have no idea.
		But be that as it may, there's more complicated stuff going on there than Alex is really wrestling with.
		It's not for people to eat them.
		The other stuff is so crazy.
		Like, he believes in God, but then he gets into other dimensions.
		There's 12 dimensions.
		There's probably things living in them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Scientists believe that there are things living in other dimensions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then I want to just jump forward to another day's show because it bears playing here.
		In this clip, Alex Jones talks a little bit about what he believes about something specific to scripture.
		And I mean, like, that's a bad idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He shouldn't really be bringing scripture up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not certain he's talking about the same Christianity that most people know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here you go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I don't like suicide, but I understand people do when they're in so much pain.
		I don't judge people that commit suicide, and I don't think God does either.
		I can't speak for God, but just at my gut level, in my spirit, I think if somebody's in excruciating pain or their kids have died and a plane crash and they're distraught, and I understand jumping off a cliff, I wouldn't personally do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But strongly.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Selling assisted suicide and eugenics and euthanasia as if it's just some choice of somebody who's in great pain is not what's happening.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is about devaluing human life and having the state remove people like THX 1138 or Logan's Run.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's against assisted suicide and stuff like that because he compares it to a movie and thinks you think it's going to be government control of stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He could also have said the giver, they had some government-controlled baby killing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But then at the beginning of it, he's talking about like, I'm cool with suicide, and I think God is too.
		In my gut level, I say that.
		And I mean, if you look at the Bible, there's seven people who've committed suicide clearly in the Bible.
		And six of them are called specifically wicked in the Bible.
		Further, Job 121 says, Naked I came from my mother's womb and naked I will depart.
		The Lord gave and the Lord is taken away.
		A lot of people interpret that to mean that the Lord gives you life and the Lord chooses when your life will end.
		The Lord takes away when your life ends.
		1 Corinthians 10.13.
		He will not let you be tempted by more than you can bear.
		But when you are tempted, God will also give you a way to escape that temptation.
		A lot of people interpret that to be either temptation towards sin or temptation, God will not give you more than you can handle, more than you can bear.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, which is clearly bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Further, if you needed one reason to disbelieve the Bible, that would be definitely the one of them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Further, one of the commandments is thou shalt not murder.
		And strictly speaking, a lot of people believe that murder, suicide is murder.
		You're murdering yourself.
		It would be against, if God has given you life, you don't have the right to take it away.
		That's a pretty consistent theological message, especially of people who have a pretty hard line on the Bible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and if you're anti-abortion, then the same logic has to apply to killing yourself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, you would think.
		So Alex is in this weird fucking religious space either way.
		I just wanted to bring that up because I think he's dumb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if you know this or not, but when Alex was growing up, his parents actually read him the Apocrypha.
		They didn't have a King James.
		They had all the Gnostic gospels.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has a Tobit tattoo on his own.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or is that the pseudo-pigram?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Gospel of Mary, the whole thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Gospel of, like, what was it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is it Thomas or Judas that was discovered like 10 years ago?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Judas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That one didn't exist back when Alex was a wee, by the way.
		Uh-uh.
		Yeah.
		Look, I think if he grew up studying Gnosticism, he would actually be way smarter.
		Because he'd have to wrestle with these enigmatic riddles.
		And, you know, what's going on with the Barbalo?
		What's going on here?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, he was more a fan of the ones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He praised the Pleroma.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's more a fan of the ones where Jesus fought dragons and killed other kids for no reason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, the good stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		So we get back to the 14th here, and something really important happened on the 14th.
		Up till this point, Alex has only said that he doesn't trust Trump and that Trump is mobbed up, all these sorts of things.
		Very negative things, although he does agree with his rhetoric.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Loves bigotry, hates the mob.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And does not think it's bigotry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		But let's move on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So on this show, he has an interview with TV.
		I don't know if he's on TV, maybe just a radio host, Larry Elder, who is big into Trump.
		And I think Alex is a little bit blindsided by it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he's not ready to have this interview.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Was he not expecting this?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		I'm not sure exactly.
		I think he wanted just to talk about race shit with a black guy and accidentally got sidetracked into talking to a guy who really supports Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
		So what he was ostensibly doing is pointing to any, like he's got a globe and he just closes his eyes and points on it.
		It's like, find me a black guy who agrees with me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then we'll put him on the show so I don't feel like a horrible racist because I'm totally a horrible racist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's possible.
		So he starts by having a little conversation about identity politics.
		So I think that's largely what he wants to talk about.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I think he's really hit the nail on the head there when you talk about they've taken our basic freedoms, they've taken our economic future, they've taken our jobs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's talk about the globalists.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then all they give us is identity politics.
		That's why they're now drilling down into saying transgender.
		Don't say dad and mom.
		Don't say husband and wife.
		Don't say boy or girl.
		They're doing this with a straight face to just kill any identity that isn't just worshiping the state.
larry elder ▲ ● ▼		And that is why Alex Trump is resonating.
		And if I were Trump, I'd broaden the argument.
		He has not made the argument that illegal aliens pose a threat to job prospects of people living in the inner city.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he soon will.
		So that, I think, is indicative of exactly what this interview is.
		Alex wants to talk about the globalists taking away identity and shit like that.
		And, of course, it's mostly influenced by the fact that people are still trying to take down Confederate flags.
		And Alex is pissed about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yeah, yeah.
		Battle flags.
		Everybody who fought in the Civil War bows to me in my lineage.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, because of tariffs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then immediately in answering that question, Larry Elder is like, hey, no, man, I got to tell you, Trump's pretty great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And Alex is like, well, that's why would you expect, like, why would Alex expect any of his guests with no prep time, apparently?
		None.
		To just buy into the globalists.
		Like, just because you're on InfoWars, you're not buying into the globalists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, one thing I've actually noticed, I'm glad you brought that up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One thing that Alex does very consistently, if you listen regularly, he cucks out his guests really hard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because of course he does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the thing that he does, and I've noticed this technique, you heard it a little bit there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's saying that these people are trying to outlaw boy and girl.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't say mother and father.
		What he does is pretty early in the interview, he'll repeat a false story and get them to sign off on it.
		And they will know that it's a false story, but they don't want to challenge his authority on the show because they also want to get to what they want to say.
		Exactly, and they want to use the platform.
		And after that point, they are essentially compromised.
		Right.
		So I know that he does that, but also I think that he has a big enough stable of people who are like wink wink on the globalists and stuff like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, yeah, globalists, whatever, but did you hear about this Trump guy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm positive this isn't the first time Larry Elder's been on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just that we don't, we've not had him on an episode before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Naturally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I'm sure they have a pre-existing relationship wherein they both know that each other yells about globalists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So the GOP's trying to outlaw pre-existing relationships.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the interview goes on a little bit, and Alex expresses that he still doesn't really trust Trump.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Larry, I want to get into the Donald Trump phenomenon because the mainstream media wouldn't be saying his name thousands of times a day and misrepresenting what he's saying if they didn't have a plan.
		I think it is to distract from the other Republican candidates thinking that Trump isn't serious, is going to drop out later.
		That's just what my gut's saying.
		But regardless, he's saying that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, what a beautiful world, though.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So he has to be defended.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's where he's at.
		He's even in the middle of this interview with the pro-Trump Larry Elder.
		He's still saying, I don't trust Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But what he is saying is true, so he has to be defended.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He must be defended.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which, great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the logic of a lunatic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now Larry Elder steps in it.
larry elder ▲ ● ▼		Well, I disagree.
		I think Donald Trump has been defending himself just fine by not apologizing, by not backing down the way Republicans normally do.
		Recall when Todd Aiken said legitimate rape, all he was saying is some women, in fact, lie about rape.
		Not very many do, but about 10% apparently do.
		All of a sudden, Rance Cheese dumped on him and Todd Aiken got destroyed in the election.
		Donald Trump has not backed down.
		He's not afraid of being called a bigot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Words have meaning.
unidentified		No, not in globalists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You have to have a word that means a thing, and then the word means a thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Todd Aiken's quote was: in cases of legitimate rape, the body has a way of shutting that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Full stop.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Insanity.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then the second part.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was about abortion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One, just putting legitimate rape, legitimate in front of rape has nothing to do with whether or not somebody lies about rape.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was entirely about all of the like, well, legitimate rape is you have to be beaten up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There needs to be a knife.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't be coerced.
		You can't be pressured on it.
		You can't give in.
		You can't be forced to do it.
		So to a certain point where you're like, well, I guess this is my fault now.
		That is all rape.
		It is not illegitimate rape.
		That's not a thing.
		Then the second part is magic.
		He said, in cases of legitimate rape, magic is real.
		That's what he really said.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everybody has a way of shutting that down.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shut it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What?
		Yeah.
		So Larry Elder's argument is that Todd Aiken fucked up by apologizing.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Trump isn't making that problem.
		He's not apologizing.
		He's not stepping into the same trap that Todd Aiken stepped into.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And Todd Aiken probably would have done better if he hadn't apologized.
		I think that's what we've really learned is that, again, dog whistling is for losers, just out-and-out bigotry.
		That's the rule of the law.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Apparently it flies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it turns out that, like, I mean, we said it even on when it happened earlier, like early episodes of the show, Trump should not have fired Flynn.
unidentified		Uh-uh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All of this probably wouldn't be happening if he just put his dick on the table and was like, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't care.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because it seems like because the GOP wouldn't have done anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, not a chance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Imagine how because that's also the last time that he's really listened to anybody there either.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It seems like it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, like everybody was like, hey, you got to get rid of Flynn.
		This is a bad idea.
		We're getting a lot of bad press.
		And it's non-stop from there.
		And now anytime they're like, hey, Trump, don't do this.
		He's like, I am dementia.
		And then yells exactly the opposite.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like the time you told me to get rid of Flynny, baby?
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That didn't work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You think you're so smart?
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, you think this travel ban shouldn't be called a travel ban?
		Because then we'll win in court?
		No, travel ban.
		Do you know what it is?
		It's the exact same thing I said it was on the campaign.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's the exact same thing that every court has said is illegal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this interview goes on a little bit longer, and Larry Elder, even though he supports Trump in this next clip, admits that Trump probably is just out for publicity.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I would certainly rather Donald Trump than a Hillary Clinton in there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But in your gut, and I really respect your opinion on this, you don't think he's some type of ringer just getting political attention for his overall empire.
larry elder ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I think it's all of the above.
		I think that Donald Trump feels the worst thing that will happen is his name recognition will be even higher, and maybe he'll make even more money.
		But I don't think he anticipated the fallout.
		I don't think he anticipated that ESPN and NASCAR and Univision and NBC would dump him, and other people are also thinking about dumping him.
		He may even lose clients in his condos.
		Who knows?
		But I think overall, what Donald Trump feels is the worst that will happen is my brand will be even bigger, but maybe I'll make some noise.
		Maybe I'll make something happen.
		And let's not discount the possibility that he's sincere.
		He thinks the country is going to hell in a handbasket.
		He thinks our foreign policy is weak.
		He thinks our deals with the various other countries are weak, and he thinks the country is going down.
		And he thinks he, as a business person, can do something about it.
		I applaud the idea of him going off the grid for this tower and spending his time and his energy and his money trying to make the country better as opposed to making more money.
		Why aren't people applauding that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I guess I have to say I applaud him because he is getting persecuted now and he's not backing down and he's not going to do the Miss America thing and he's going to focus on the campaign.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Again, though, Larry doesn't do underage with the other Republicans, what they should have been doing the whole time?
larry elder ▲ ● ▼		It most certainly does.
larry elder ▲ ● ▼		The other Republicans are wusses, and that's one of the things that pisses people off.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the first thing I wholeheartedly agree with him on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's fair.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Clearly with Trump in office and the other Republicans hating it and still not doing anything, they're a giant group of wusses.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you see, Larry Elder is affecting Alex, and he's softening his perspective.
		Absolutely.
		Even though the conversation they're having is about how he's probably fucking around for publicity.
		To the point where Larry Elder even says, let's not discount the possibility he's serious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, let's not throw that away.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know it's an outside chance, but let's maybe serious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex is like, yeah, we got to applaud it because he's putting his business things on the line, not realizing that he stands to gain so much from abusing the presidency.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he sure does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		To the point where all of the, like, they are right about everything being a publicity stunt and an idea to make more money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It just so happened that he got the presidency, so he's using it to generate more publicity and make more money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's even got the Department of Justice arguing that he should be allowed to take money from whoever he wants.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Department of Justice in the United States is actively arguing, you know, that Constitution?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not a fan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I fucking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ew, fake news.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		While we're on this little Trump thing, I loved that moment from his press conference at the end of last week where he's with the Romanian president and they're talking about waivers, like visa waivers for Romanians.
		And he's like, we didn't talk about it.
		And the Romanian president's like, I brought it up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just like, what the fuck are we doing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You just watch that clip alone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, ooh, no.
unidentified		Not good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Take everything else away.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's very bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		It's not good to trust a foreign leader.
		I have no idea what he's up to.
		Although my brother was born in Bucharest, so I have some relation to Romania.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Spend a tiny bit of time there as a young boy, and I remember it being miserable.
unidentified		But that was also back in the waivers for your visas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was in the late 80s, though.
		So, I mean, that whole area is doing a lot better than back then necessarily.
		Anyway, Larry Elder's not quite done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's got to be involved in two more clips that are pretty offensive.
		One is about Charleston, and then the other one's just about race.
		This one is wild.
unidentified		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, isn't that the answer?
		That he pulls that gun out, and somebody pulls a gun out and blows him away, and maybe only two people were dead.
		Kim and maybe the first person he shot.
		I mean, isn't that the answer?
		Isn't it gun-free zones and an anti-gun culture?
unidentified		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Really?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		What ended up killing these people?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Two casualties, your baseline.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I would rather have two people dead than no people dead.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe if he didn't have a fucking gun, he wouldn't have been able to kill those people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's possible, but then you get into the argument he could have had a knife, you know, blah, blah, blah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a stupid argument.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a dumb argument.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But what's dumber is the idea that, like, okay, someone there, it's their fault because they didn't have a gun.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And further, it's society's fault for disarming churches.
		And it's, you know, it's the anti-gun agenda's fault that these people died, not the person, not the white supremacist who actually did it.
		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's the anti-gun agenda.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Keep that in mind because there's an interesting juxtaposition.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Every time somebody gets shot by a gun, it's because the anti-gun agenda.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not the white supremacist who's doing it.
unidentified		Uh-uh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Uh-uh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But keep that in mind because the Charleston shooting happened two weeks before this, but there's a shooting in Chattanooga that happens a couple days after where we're at in the timeline now, and Alex treats it very differently.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, I said that jokingly, and then I realized that's exactly what they believe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Every time somebody gets shot, it's because we say you shouldn't have guns.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's genuinely their position.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's how did we lose to these people, Dan?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		These are the dumbest fucking people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Speaking of dumb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's unbelievable.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Speaking of dumb, listen to this clip.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex has some weird fucking thoughts about who's to blame for racism.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's really sad because up until Obama got elected, I saw a lot of racial harmony, people coming together.
		It was just really refreshing.
		And now I've never seen it so energized in my whole life, not growing up in the early 70s and stuff in the 80s.
		And it just so See it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, maybe you're blind.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe because you didn't have to deal with it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe, white people, one of the big reasons you don't understand racism is because it's not a thing you deal with.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not germane to your immediate experience.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so of course you think racism isn't a problem because it's not a problem for you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have to, you know, really expand your mind and try and relate to other people's experiences to understand just how insidious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't even have to really expand your mind.
		You have to just look at a person and be like, hey, what did you experience?
		And they tell you a thing and you're like, oh, that's probably true.
		I should respect your experience instead of telling you what your life experience is is wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because you tell me your life experience and then my response is, oh man, it sucks the globalists are doing that to you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It does suck the globalists are doing that to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It sucks, man.
		So that's it for the 14th.
		We see just a little bit of softening in Alex's position towards Trump.
		And we move on to the 15th, which we're not going to cover because David Knight hosted.
		But something important to remember is July 15th, 2015, was when Jade Helm 15 kicked off.
		The old Jade Helm.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, the one that he said was real and then later told us was not real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We don't really know if he said it was real per se.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We don't have audio evidence of that, so let's not make that claim.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Disappointing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have good reason to believe he did, but we can't prove it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If we can't prove it, then we can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But then I will retract that statement.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we will see where his head is at a little bit later.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course we will.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On the episode of July 16th, when Alex is back in studio.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex starts off the July 16th episode with a little bit of a tease that should scare everyone.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I really spent some time watching Donald Trump's speeches and his interviews.
		And coming up at the bottom of the hour, I'll give you my take on Donald Trump.
		I've really done some soul searching on the subject, and I'll give you my take on whether I think he's a shill or not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Spoiler alert.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He still thinks he's a shill?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll see.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It comes a little later.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Damn you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It comes a little later in the episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was waiting for you to tell me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So on this episode, Alex Jones has all over the goddamn place on the 16th.
		It is a massive cluster fuck of weird narratives, strange things he says.
		But one of them is Mark Dice has a new video.
		We're not going to listen to it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Don't worry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, thank you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all the same shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thank you so much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's the exact same setup.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just him talking to people on a beach with a clipboard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Getting owned.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, basically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This one is about how Mount Rushmore is racist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I actually agree with that very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not entirely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, like Roosevelt's up there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean that they took American Native Lands and used it to build giant monuments to the very people who stole those American Native Lands.
unidentified		You know what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Mark Dice doesn't wrestle with that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I strangely feel like I should have known.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Mark Dice has gone out and done this video, and I wanted to play this clip just because it indicates, again, this insidious cycle that Alex Jones perpetuates, wherein he has one of his reporters go out, create some video that doesn't say what he pretends it says, drudge links to it, or it gets a link up somewhere, and then Alex Jones repeats it as news.
		He's going to say that there's a headline, and the headline is that people are calling for the destruction of Mount Rushmore, which isn't happening.
		It's entirely based on Mark Dice's video.
		At the end of this clip, it's very short, but he says that this is news up top.
		And then at the end, he says he told Mark Dice to go make this video.
		So it's just a closed loop.
		It's a completely nonsensical.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's how Fox News operated almost from the very beginning.
		Their trick was always to have their news people say, you know, a basic story.
		Then their opinion people would be like, this is what is really happening.
		And then the next day, the news would keep it in the cycle by saying, people are saying that what is happening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or a commentator.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		But it's people.
		It's just people are saying.
		We're reporting on what people are saying.
		We're not verifying it or supporting it.
		Just so happens that the people that said it are on our network, and we have a vested interest in making sure that you have their thoughts in your mind all the fucking time.
		But people are saying it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're reporting on it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here's our reporting on what Alex Jones does.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		A new video: Obama supporters advocate tearing down racist Mount Rushmore.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We told you that was coming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In fact, I said a few weeks ago, reporters go out and call for tearing down Mount Rushmore.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Mark Dice has done it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, wait, what?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's basically him saying, hey, go stage this thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go out and try and get us evidence for whatever narrative we want to support.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then my prediction will have come true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love that version of reporting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's quite literally fake news.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But like when he says, I told you this is coming, he's not saying, I told you this video was going to be released.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not the context he's saying.
		He's saying that in much the same way he predicted that people would be calling for the American flag to be banned based on a Mark Dice video.
		All of these things are things like I made these predictions and then I told my reporters to somehow justify my stupid fucking prediction.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's why he's 100% right all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All the time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's not just you can predict everything so long as you make it happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's not just right all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's wrong all the time.
unidentified		Oh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, this is going to get bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's going to get Mark Dicey.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Something else happened in July of 2015 that is really funny conceptually, but isn't funny at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is that the Center for Medical Progress went and made all those behind-the-scenes videos about Planned Parenthood people selling baby parts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'm going to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The ones they're in jail for now, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're not in jail yet, but they've been charged with 15 felonies.
		Good.
		I believe the sentencing is still to come and what have you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I hope it's so much jail.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're in big trouble.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want a lot of jail.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're in big trouble for this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'll explain exactly why on the other end of it, but I want to really point out: Alex Jones fucking buys it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He is so into it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He talks about it a little bit here, and then the entire show a couple days later is all about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was an entire news cycle.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All made up.
		And that was all you heard.
		That narrative being pushed to the point where now, just like Obama's a secret Muslim, the GOP still believes it.
		They still believe that Planned Parenthood sells baby parts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I'll just explain it now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even though the people who disseminated those videos are going to jail, they're still like, ah, no, that was true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're just being prosecuted because of the powers that be, or whatever fucking nonsense they want to lie about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The guy who's behind the Center for Medical Progress is a guy named David Dadalin or Dale Dean.
		Dale Den?
		Who cares?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His organization set up a fake.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jail Dean.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His organization.
unidentified		Get it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I got it.
		They set up a fake biomedical research company called Biomax Procurement Services.
		Under this guise, they posed as potential buyers of aborted fetal tissue and organs and secretly recorded Planned Parenthood officials during meetings.
		The Center for Medical Progress released edited versions of these videos, which it promoted as showing Planned Parenthood officials price haggling over baby parts.
		When the full unedited videos became available, they instead showed a Planned Parenthood executive repeatedly saying its clients want to cover their costs, not make money when donating fetal tissue from abortions to scientific research.
		According to the lawyer for Planned Parenthood, Roger K. Evans, Biomex proposed sham procurement contracts offering $1,600 for liver and thymus fetal tissues.
		I went back and I watched all of these videos.
		They are shamelessly edited to the point where anyone who doesn't have an agenda that this supports would be like, calm the fuck on.
		It's so crazy.
		And Alex is so into it.
		He, like, I can't wait till we get to the 20th because that's when he really tees off on it.
		But he is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So you can't wait so we can tee off on him, essentially.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Gotcha.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, the other thing that's important to point out is, you know, these guys, let me get these specifics here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So they are, on March 28th, 2017, this Daleden and his cohort were charged with 15 felonies in the state of California, one for each of the people who they had filmed without consent, because they did not get consent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Those hidden videos where they didn't get consent and edited heavily, making it seem like they were committing a crime?
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		And one for criminal conspiracy to invade privacy.
		Now, the thing that is really important to note is that this is funny.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, good.
		Now we're awesome.
		Now I'm free and clear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everyone investigated their claims.
		The Senate, the House, all these state governors, everyone investigated it.
		And everyone cleared Planned Parenthood.
		Everyone did investigations.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know who didn't clear Planned Parenthood?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Center for Medical Progress?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, the fucking everybody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody who listened to it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But this one's particularly funny.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On July 30th, 2015, Indiana Governor Mike Pence announced that the state's investigation did not find any evidence of wrongdoing in Planned Parenthood's handling of fetal tissue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If Mike Pence had to say that out loud, I bet his babies died.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, it's just, it's insane.
		The number of investigations that were opened into it.
		There were like select committees.
		Jason Chaffetz, the chairman of the United States House Committee on Oversight and Governmental Affairs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that giant pussy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On October 8th, 2015, he stated that a GOP investigation found no evidence of wrongdoing by Planned Parenthood.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even people who are staunchly against Planned Parenthood are all like, fuck, there's nothing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And who did everything possible within that investigation to try and prove it so hard?
		That was investigated so thoroughly for even the slight.
		Because if there was even a slight bit, they would have been like, well, the entirety of the claim wasn't proven, but we did catch them on this, the Al Capone racketeering charge of Planned Parenthood, and they couldn't find fuck all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the exception is that there was a select committee in the United States House, the Committee on Energy and Commerce Select Investigation Panel on Planned Parenthood, was formed to further investigate Planned Parenthood, with Congresswoman Marcia Blackburn serving as the chairwoman.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She sucks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On September 21st, the panel voted 8-0 to recommend holding STEM Express, which was a business that did research and got tissue from Planned Parenthood, in contempt of Congress for failure to comply with a subpoena.
		The six Democratic members on the panel walked out of the meeting in protest before the vote.
		The committee's final report recommended that, quote, the National Institutes of Health be required to stop funding fetal tissue research and that the huge health provider Planned Parenthood be stripped of U.S. funding.
		According to the publication Science, the report contained multiple inaccuracies.
		Democratic members of the panel who had not been permitted to read, respond to, or vote on the final report released an alternate report in which they criticized the committee for relying on McCarthy-era tactics and of relying on unsourced, unverified documents and writing of the report.
		So that's sort of some of the aftermath of this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How is this like I get that you don't you like not being disease-ridden?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's nice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan, are you a big fan of that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you want to do you want to continue not being disease-ridden?
		Right.
		Now, you know, new diseases can happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, they can happen at any time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now they can evolve.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or, you know, like there might be genetic issues.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't you want to research this?
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't you want to learn more about it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not just because you're fine now, but because maybe in the future there will be information that you want to have.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're talking violence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Information that you can protect yourself with.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't play God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't you want to research on things that are already dead?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't play God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't.
		You can't.
		You can't praise a spirit and keep yourself from getting sick.
		Why?
		Can we just not give them science?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what the other thing?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They don't get it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what the other thing?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know what?
		Eight-member panel?
		You don't get any science from now on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a 14-member panel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Six of them walked out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		All eight of you, you get no your phones gone.
		TVs, gone.
		You know what?
		We didn't land on the moon because you're not allowed to believe that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The true comedy of it, too, is in this video, there are people who, like, this guy is giving these high prices that they're going to pay for fetal tissue and stuff like that.
		And pretty much across the board, the people are like, that's higher than we pay.
		Like, they're haggling, but it's the reverse of what you would expect in haggling.
		The person's coming too high because they're trying to make it look like there's a tissue scam going on.
unidentified		Right, right, right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're trying to make money off of it.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When in reality, it is like $50 for samples to credentialed and certified research science.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because Planned Parenthood is so hated by the GOP for doing awful things like providing women and men and children with coverage and help and health, you know, that kind of a thing.
		Making sure that we don't get not disease-ridden.
		Right.
		They hate them for that.
		So Planned Parenthood is always under investigation.
		It is always being scrutinized.
		So of course, if you go and try and catch them do something, they have safeguard under safeguard under safeguard.
		Like we will show not even the slightest bit.
		We will give them no evidence so that even though when they close down those clinics, at the end of the day, we will have been within perfect understanding and compliance with the law.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, the other thing is that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because if they aren't, it's gone for good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Every single one of them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I agree.
		The other thing is that, like, this is so indicative of what I talk about with propaganda and truth.
		Like, this still people believe.
		It's utter horseshit, and still people believe.
		The damage is done.
		You can explain away that, like, no, these people are manipulatively editing videos to say things they don't say.
		These people have all been investigated by legitimate boards and cleared of any wrongdoing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the people who made the videos are going to jail for it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Most likely.
		Or at least being fucking sued real hard.
		Oh, yeah.
		It doesn't matter.
		The propaganda is too effective.
		Now, let's get to the clips of Alex.
		He has a couple clips about this on this episode on the 16th.
		And one of the things that's really important to remember is all the people in the videos are women.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So we're going to treat them with a lot of respect.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And dignity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure that there will be zero comments on their appearance.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, there are, but I'm not sure if I kept any of those in because I actually think that there's something even more important that goes on.
		And that is that Alex Jones is clearly using coded language to evoke classism.
		I'll play these clips.
		You'll know what I'm talking about.
		It's very overt.
		He does this a lot, but it's almost never this clear.
		It's fascinating to me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Another important article, stone-cold proof that America deserves judgment.
		And that's the breakdown of Planned Parenthood's stone-cold.
		One of their major directors of an entire national program, Senior Director of Medical Services for the Federation of America Planned Parenthood.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She was a very good person.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Just talking about selling body parts and how they're trying to get around it to make more money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not what they're doing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sitting there drinking wine at an expensive restaurant.
		Fine dining.
		And again, this is a picture or a video that tells a million words of literally suffering paying for expensive wine and Italian food at an upscale restaurant with a paycheck from baby's body parts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't get their paychecks from baby's body parts, but also, did you see how he kept it?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Those fat cats.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The fine bottles of wine, the upscale dining.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They are getting rich off of the tragedy of abortion.
		Totally.
		They're convincing susceptible young women.
		And you know that's who we're really afraid of.
		We're afraid that you're going to corrupt our young women.
		We can't have you do that.
		Next thing you know, they'll be sleeping with black men.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're too dumb to know any better.
		But anyway, this thread runs throughout his entire coverage of this video.
		It's so dog whistly in terms of class.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is frustrating because we have such a huge issue with class.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A huge issue with class to the point where, of course, it is resonant.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It should resonate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It should be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's manipulative in this case.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to eat the aborted tissue of the billionaire I ate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that how that works?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know what my science was on that one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But billionaires are fucking us over all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you did do that, you wouldn't be able to afford a nice bottle of wine, a fine bottle of wine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, I would age the billionaire.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's making so he makes so many assumptions about the video that he's talking about is a video where a lady is eating a salad.
		I don't know if it's a classy establishment.
		You really can't tell from the video.
		And she is drinking a glass of wine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She's eating a salad?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fucking bougie bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't know if this glass of wine is $7.
		You have no fucking idea how much this costs.
		That's not in the videos that he's going over.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If it's not from a box, it's too rich for my blood.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I go, Carlo Rossi.
		Pirate jug.
		So here's him being more classism.
		More classism about the Planned Parenthood videos.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We played the video the last two days.
		Maybe I should play it again.
		And she smacks her lips and enjoys it and clearly gets off on talking about baby parts while she's slurping fine red wine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But also, that's not indicative of the video at all.
		There's no one getting off.
		There's no one enjoying the idea of aborted babies at all.
		It's just dealing with it as like, oh, there is a research use for this, this tissue that would be being thrown away that is completely legal for them to, first of all, take.
		They have to get waivers from everybody, everybody who gets an abortion.
		There's consent forms that they have to have filled out.
		And some people don't.
		Sign up.
		And when they don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's three-day waiting periods and they're all this shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And longer than you have to wait to get a gun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's because.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can actually get same-day abortions at an abortion show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a loophole in that law.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can also get a Nazi abortion.
		Free speech.
		So there's two more clips, not of this, but there's two clips that are kind of fun.
		And then we'll get into Alex's big reveal about his soul searching about Trump that's going to come.
		Okay.
		Like I said, this episode is really all over the place, the 16th.
		He is in a strange headspace because this video is fucking him up, and he knows that I got to work on this.
		But then he's also got a couple, he has an interview he's got to do later in the show, and then he gets a fucking huge curveball thrown at him right at the end.
		And he's just sort of untethered.
		He's all over the place.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's interesting to me is now that he mentions that, human sexuality being as diverse as it is, somebody does get off on the idea of fetal tissue, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Probably one of the Satanists who yells at him at an abortion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anything we know about the most zealous anti-gay GOPers, generally they're the ones we find with rent boys.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it doesn't seem to be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So I'm guessing, especially with all of our weird, perverted sexual fantasies that Alex has thrown in there and has been like, this is awful.
unidentified		And then he's like, just this young little girl just getting touched.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like that tone of voice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, he does do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he jerks off to those videos.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's possible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not going to make that claim.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I am going to make the claim very strongly that when Alex Jones is untethered, when he has no bearing, what ends up happening is often he ends up bragging.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This next clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He jerks his own dick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a fucking weird brag.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, they hate me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're a group of crooks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The globalists.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Stealing our freedom, running every scam you can imagine, selling off our infrastructure for pennies on the dollar.
		I know their game plan.
		I know their fraud.
		I'm straight shooting.
		They can't stand it.
		And they are now assassinating me big time.
		My name, who I am, ahead, because they've got actuaries.
		They've got demographics.
		They've got graphs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't know what an action is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They know we've hit the megazeitgeist.
		I mean, it is expensive.
		When I told the story last week about how I took my kids down to the hike and bike trail where there's a big luscious creek, Barton Creek, on the city-owned greenbelt, the pop.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Keep in mind, he just said, I told this story before.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's going to tell it again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, this bear is telling twice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's got to fill time, man.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is my favorite giant city parks, basically.
		40,000 acres of them, to be precise.
		And there were like 30-something people standing around at the waterfall there in the creek.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was killed by my neighbor's owl.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All of them were pointing at me saying that's Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All of them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, of course.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And about 10 or 15 of them came over.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Five years ago, maybe 10 of them would be staring at me and five would come over.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I walked out of the thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that a bad thing?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		A few nights ago and was walking to get an Uber maybe 200 yards, and every group of people that walked past me downtown, every group said, that's Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Paranormal.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, I don't know how we're reaching this many people.
		We don't see the numbers on the website.
		We don't see the numbers.
		We see huge numbers, but nothing like this.
		This show is loved all over the world now.
		Governments listen to it because I'm just a straight shooter.
		And we have a very accurate history.
		And I can't believe I'm still alive.
		Please pray for us, but they are assassinating us right now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very accurate history on the same show he pitches this fraudulent Planned Parenthood narrative.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very accurate history.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, ooh, you're getting in a bougie Uber.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, like.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're exploiting the underclass.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but I mean, if he wants to play the game of like, ooh, this fancy bottle of wine, ooh, you're paying a poor person to drive you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fuck you, Alex.
		But like, I love, I love it because you can read between the lines what he's experiencing.
		He's saying that, like, everyone's pointing at me and saying that's Alex Jones, which I believe is probably happening.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Possibly happening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Then he's like, we're not seeing these kind of numbers on the website because, of course, you're not.
		People are aware of you at this point because of memes.
		People are making fun of him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so when everyone's like, oh, fuck, it's Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's how they're saying it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not like, oh, my God, there's the truth telling.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He thinks he's in a hard day's night now.
		That's what he thinks is going on.
		He's walking down the street and young nubile women are screaming his name.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, fuck that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he thinks it's like John the Baptist or something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're going even more delusional.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I think he thinks people are like seeing him walk around like, I don't know, Jerusalem or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember exactly where John the Washington was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wherever the fuck he was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Judea?
unidentified		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, he's walking around.
		John the Baptist was like, oh my God, it's the baptizer.
		It's the one who prophesied the coming of Christ.
		That's what he thinks.
		He thinks people are like, oh, my God, it's the guy who tells everyone the truth about the globalists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What a crazy world though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But he actually gets to, a little bit later, explain why there's such a disconnect between his version of reality and everyone else's, which I'll play for you, and I'll see if you buy into it.
		I don't know.
		Maybe you will.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet I do.
unidentified		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a pretty good idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet it's actually 100% accurate.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very sensible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to guess this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The reality of the globalist assault is so overwhelming, so mega-mass of evil, so completely given over to death that the average person can't even basically see it because it's so alien to their nature, to their fundamental nature of being good people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So you can't see the globalists because they're too evil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's his explanation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's really dumb.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that makes perfect sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can conceive of a lot of fucking evil shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can imagine terrible plans.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But you are awake, Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You listen to Infowars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, this is the problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even though I...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Me, I can't conceive of the globalists.
		I think it's insane.
		I think it's too crazy.
		It's too far beyond me because I am a generally good person.
		I'm honest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So also.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a straight shooter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Governments listen to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is as good a time as any for me to reveal that I've started reading the books that Alex talks about that are like the foundational pieces of his cosmology.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And like I've already read None Dare Call It a Conspiracy, and it's fucking stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's absolute utter garbage and complete misunderstanding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it a fun read, though?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Aww.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not even that great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very dry?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		He also talks about Zbignu Brzezinski a lot.
		And I've read most of the great chessboard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Was he like the Secretary of State for Carter?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to say, yeah, it was Carter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, one, only Carter would pick a non-white male American name.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's white?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I know, but his name is Zbignu.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I've read part of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Reagan's picking Paul or Derek.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Reagan's not picking a Zabignu.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Zbignu Brzezinski.
		I've read parts of The Great Chessboard, and I'll get to reading all of it eventually.
		But Alex has complained a lot about the book, The Technotronic Era.
		And it's interesting because it's not at all what he talks about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's about the band?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's about the Polyphonic Spree.
		It predicts their coming.
		It's actually called Between Two Ages, America's Place in the Technotronic Era.
		And first of all, I fucking love the book from the jump because it opens with a Steppenwolf quote, which is my favorite book.
		And I'm like, Zbignu, you kidding me?
		All right.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not quite done with the book yet, and it could take a harsh turn in the last chapter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But so far, what it's about is it was written back in the 60s, and it's about how technology is going to be super important in terms of modernization and the world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So he's off to a great start.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And a large chunk of the book is talking about how developing countries and the burgeoning markets, what have you, are going to have a really difficult time keeping up with the technology because in order to modernize, generally you need stability.
		That's mostly.
		It's not saying we need to keep them unstable so they won't develop.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like what Obama said.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What Alex thinks Obama said.
		It's more lamenting the impossibility or the unlikelihood of countries even like India.
		If you looked at it from the 60s, they didn't look like they had a very good chance of catching up with the rest of the world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they're still struggling to catch up, but they're doing a lot better job of it than Zabignu could have predicted.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, no, Zabignu, he just died recently.
		Yeah, he did.
		But yeah, by all the accounts that I've read, he was actually a pretty good dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And again, I haven't finished the book.
		It could take a real hard turn.
		But so far, I'm finding Alex probably doesn't understand what he's reading.
		I think that there's probably, like you even mentioned earlier, there's schizoid tendencies where he thinks everyone's pointing at him, and maybe they are laughing at him, or maybe he imagines it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And in this case.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And in his reality, it doesn't matter whether it's real or imagined.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		To him, it is real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so he's reading this book, and he's like, oh, they're fucking with me.
		He's reading the book.
		I'm sure he's like, oh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is the globalist plan, and I'm the one who can see it through this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because everyone else who reads this doesn't understand evil enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They can't conceive of the idea that he's writing about this sort of other weather-based technology.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it's in code.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he has to say that, you know, otherwise people would be like, what?
		We got to tear him down.
		But he's signaling to his other globalist co-horse.
		This is our next way to, you know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And yeah, of course, well, fuck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We wouldn't even get Godzilla for another 10 years or whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, the first one was like in the 50s.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The one with Raymond Burr.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I forgot about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, the Raymond Burr one was the American remake of the original.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because they had to make it more palatable, and we didn't need to be the bad guys.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, we can't be the bad guys.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's.
		I apologize.
		That was a little more extended than I intended it to be.
		But I'm fascinated by reading all these texts of where does he get these ideas from and finding out they don't match up with what he's referencing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love the promise of this podcast is you and I will get to laugh at Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In person.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And instead, we got Zbignu Brzezinski's book.
		And not clips of him reading it or anything like that.
		You just giving us a rundown.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I still haven't finished it yet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So policy walks out there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Go ahead and look forward to the second half of the Zbigniew Brzezinski book report.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I fully cop to the fact that the next installment could be like, holy shit, he was right all along.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The odds of that are infinitesimal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very low.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very low.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is an outside chance I will be reporting back.
		Alex Jones is fucking right, you guys.
		We have got to run.
		But for now, it's time to get to the results of Alex Jones' soul searching.
		Yes.
		And I'm going to call this Hints of a Heel Turn.
unidentified		Ooh.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So what do they do when Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com and my reporters and writers and myself have been chronicling this for 20 years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The globalists.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And others before us.
		Well, they just come out and they misrepresent what we're saying and what we're doing.
		And they've done the same thing with Donald Trump.
		Now, this weekend, and then throughout the week, I watched hours of Donald Trump videos on CNN, NBC, Fox News, the lengthy 20, 30-minute interviews he does.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I did not read anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but I would also like to point out that if he's actually watching hours of the footage, then he has to have watched the interviews where he says kill terrorists' families.
		He has to have watched the videos where he says we should have stolen oil from countries as war plunder.
		He has to have watched all of the interviews where he says that Putin is a great guy, you know, talking about how great Putin is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's a great guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones, now, by virtue of the fact that you've watched hours of those interviews, you have to be aware of those things.
		And if you're okay with them, then you're okay with all that.
		And that's not good for you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, it's the same opportunism that gets us to where we are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is that whole idea of I will deal with, well, just the British election.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hold off.
unidentified		Hold off.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because we don't know where he's going to land on this yet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I know, but this is that signal.
		Okay.
		Wait.
		Are you saying he's not going to land where we think he's going to land?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know where he's going to land.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I haven't listened to this yet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You son of a bitch.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I sincerely don't think it's going to go exactly the way you think.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, let's listen to this and then I'll see if my point is still valid.
unidentified		All right.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I went back and did research on Donald Trump.
		He has supported assault weapons bans.
		He has supported Democrats more than Republicans in the past.
		He does own casinos, and I'm not judging him.
		I'm a libertarian.
		You can do that.
		I don't think it should be illegal, but I have a right to say I think it's degenerate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You also said that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm not a gambler, so, you know, I mean, I've been to Vegas for video shoots before and gone to a roulette wheel, played some blackjack, won money, lost money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The last time he started talking about that, he was like, I've played some poker, but that's a whole different thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's really the only gambling I do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And now this time, yeah, I've been to Vegas and I played a lot of roulette.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the last time he was like, people who run casinos are predators.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump is basically with a name like Trump, you don't get arrested with one like Genovese.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He said that he's the front man for a consortium on the East Coast.
		He's not really rich.
		All of that stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But as a libertarian, it's his right to say that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So let's continue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's his right to then lie about it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Watching the people there totally enamored in a cult I thought was sick.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And knowing that I was being chumped, it's kind of like I smoke marijuana a couple times a year to actually see what the latest stuff does, because I like it.
unidentified		I love it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because I can support it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's fucking stupid.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, the five or six times I've gambled was so I could experience it.
		True experimentation.
		And I can tell you, I don't like marijuana, and I don't like gambling.
		That doesn't mean you should be thrown in jail for marijuana.
unidentified		It doesn't mean you should be stopping chocolate.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But I'm kind of digressing here.
		I've done deep research into Trump.
		And I think he is a self-made person.
		I think he's very articulate, very charismatic, very smart.
		No.
		Not everybody knows about 95% of what he has to say.
		When he says, bomb the oil fields, that's common sense.
		I said that a year and a half ago when they first took over.
		I said, blow off the oil fields, fix them later.
		But our government wants them to have those oil fields.
		It's a proxy army of Saudi Arabia.
		So, see, if Trump went further like Rand Paul and said that, then I would really support him.
		Rand Paul is better, but Rand Paul should be turning up the heat and being a little more like Trump.
		He should be, yeesh, quite frankly, as radical as Trump because Trump's not being radical.
		And Gary Johnson, I want to get back on the show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll get back to Gary Johnson in a second.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, our problem is basically Rand Paul isn't bigoted enough to be president.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, no, it's that Rand Paul isn't crazy enough publicly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump isn't crazy enough in his position.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you could just get both of those crazies together, then you'd have a conversation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, then we'd have the whole thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Meanwhile, let's remember a couple weeks ago, he was saying, I'm Rand Paul or Bust, maybe Ted Cruz.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So we're smoothing the way out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he's mad at Gary Johnson.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's going to get into that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Former New Mexico governor.
		He's probably been in the studio five, six times, probably been on 15 times.
		And I really disagree with his political points.
		He's trying to get saying that Trump is catering to racist.
		In fact, we'll put the actual quote on screen because I'm.
		He's appealing to racist voters, says former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson.
		I don't want to have anything to do with it, Johnson.
		It's embarrassing to me.
		And you got Jeb Bush, everybody else saying the same thing.
		Embarrassing to say the illegal aliens have a lot of hardcore criminals amongst them, and they're committing crimes, and Mexico is dumping its criminals on us.
		That's what Cuba did.
		That's what areas of Eastern Europe, it's a fact.
		And again, it's this attack on reality.
		So I'll say this: I'm going to give Donald Trump the benefit of the doubt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because he hasn't backed off and he has lost some money and lost some TV shows over this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand why that's okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's got some money now.
		He doesn't want to lose his country.
		And it's good to see an old-fashioned, patriotic Yankee like Donald Trump, and a guy like that could unify this country.
		The problem is, I don't trust him as far as I can throw him, but he's got to be given the benefit of the doubt because he's saying what the other Republicans won't.
		So I'm going to stop attacking Donald Trump.
		I've warned, but that said, he's better than anything else we see right now.
		So what he's saying has to be supported and defended.
unidentified		Thank you for listening.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's more important than the man.
		It's the idea.
		But I think he's going to betray us.
		That's what my gut tells me.
		Spotty's never wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's so convoluted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe his gut was right this time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, maybe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But like, isn't that wild?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's Alex's out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's his out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he can't play it now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he could totally play it now.
unidentified		If he listens to our show, he knew it the whole time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He can play that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He can be like, listen, I got betrayed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I got seduced by the crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, his ideas were right, but he's not following through on those ideas.
		I told you guys at the beginning, my gut told me that he was going to betray us because he's a secret Democrat and all of this shit.
		He's got the move.
		He's got the move.
		Trump is a globalist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I legitimately think that he's too far to do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		After, what was it, the middle of January, early February, where he said, I would die for Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that one's trouble.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he's gone too far.
		He can't play that card now.
		But that statement is fucked up.
		Because he's like, I listened to all these videos, which should have made him be like, whoa, this guy's nuts.
		Instead, he's like, oh, he's crazy, but I like that crazy.
		All right.
		Look, I know he's mobbed up.
		I know all this bad shit about him.
		I'm going to stop attacking him.
		I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
		And then, Biddy's probably going to betray us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't say, I don't trust him as far as I can throw him, but I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trust, but verify.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not a good idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You shouldn't.
		Don't give.
		Look, if you don't trust people, don't give them the benefit of the doubt.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're usually going to screw you up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because that's how you get murdered.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, I don't trust you in that car.
		You seem creepy, but you did offer me a ride.
		My gut tells me you're going to murder me.
		But I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not necessarily in this case how you get murdered, but it is how you lose your Google ads.
		It's definitely that.
		So Alex now is at this point where he's said a whole bunch of stuff about Trump up till this point.
		Now he makes this proclamation and he stops talking about Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that was my prediction from the beginning.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's the first debate whenever those guys start dropping out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And Trump pulls the super male vitality moves.
		Standing in the middle, just sitting there, you're a prick.
		I hate you.
		You know, like that kind of bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Write down Supermale Vitality because we're going to get back to it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do I need to write it down?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because it's stamped all over my heart.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You do, because we're going to get back to it at the end of this episode in a very weird way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is there any other way to get back to Supermale Vitality?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
		So throughout the rest of this episode that we're going to be going over, up until July 21st, I believe, is where we cut off.
		He doesn't really talk about Trump much at all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is he talking about then?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to get into it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because it seems like, especially at that time, whenever Trump was rising through and everybody was shocked by it, that's all everybody was talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, he talks, he has an interview with Jerome Courcy at one point, which is really boring.
		And Jerome Corsi says maybe he's real this time.
		So there's that.
		They talked about that.
		I didn't pull a clip of that because it doesn't matter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're so fucking stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Around the 19th or 20th, somewhere in there, was when Trump made the claims about John McCain, when he's like, I like heroes who don't get captured.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That sort of shit.
		And Alex, his response to that is, didn't go far enough.
		Because Alex believes that, I'll use his quote, John McCain was a trustee at the Hanoi Hilton.
		He makes the claim that John McCain was never tortured and, in fact, was given pleasure women and fancy meals at the Hanoi Hilton.
		What?
		Yeah.
		He says it's mainstream news.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So what you're saying, what Alex is saying is that the reason John can't raise his arms above his head is he got fucked too hard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He blew out his oblique.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He got fucked so hard he's paralyzed now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what we're saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I did try and look into that and I can't find any verification of that.
		I did find an article on WorldNet Daily, but it had no sourcing, no references at all.
		I found one article that I don't know if I can trust or not that purported to be from somebody who was captured along the same time as him.
		And it doesn't say that he wasn't tortured.
		It was just saying that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he exaggerated his story, that kind of a thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that there were a lot of people who were there, and his experience is no more severe than any one of the other.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is the point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that even John McCain would own up to that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think he has.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was like, hey, we were in a fucking torture camp.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody got tortured.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's where Alex stands on Trump.
		Now, this is fun because immediately after this on the episode, he has an interview with Jesse Ventura.
		Ventura comes back, and they talk some more bullshit about his case.
		But I've just decided to cut all of that out because in this clip, Jesse Ventura talks some fucking hard truth about Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is nice, and Alex can't really handle it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it starts to give you the indication that now is whenever he's starting to turn Trump into his boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's starting to feel the need to defend him, but he can't.
		Especially not to Jesse Ventura.
		Right.
		Because Jesse Ventura makes sense.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So elaborate on where you stand on the Donald Trump situation.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		Well, first of all, you know, if Mexicans come up here illegals and get on our welfare system, if indeed they do that, then blame the people who created a system that allows that to happen, which is your Democrats and Republicans.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow, that's true.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		If they are able to do that, and I don't know if they are or not, but if they're able to do that, blame the system that allows it to happen instead of blaming the poor person.
		Second of all, I get irritated because I'm off the grid down there.
		I live 900 miles in Mexico.
		And whenever somebody with the statute of Donald Trump makes a statement like he has, believe me, we as Americans down there feel the repercussions of that.
		All of a sudden, Mexican people stare at us.
		All of a sudden, you know, hassles start happening.
		Maybe the federales pull you over more, whatever it might be.
		But it does nobody any good because what Donald Trump is saying does nothing but anger Mexican people because you can't paint them in a broad brush.
		Certainly there's criminals in Mexico just like there are criminals here.
unidentified		We ought to quite understand we have more people in jail than any other country in the world.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		So therefore, don't we have the most criminals?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, Jesse, I mean, I agree with your point that we shouldn't blame the TSA.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We should blame our Congress.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not the point that Jesse made.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is definitely not the point that he just made.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex can't at all wrestle with the point that he just made, which is completely fucking valid.
		So he's like, oh, yeah, don't blame the TSA.
		That was not what he said.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He said, don't blame the immigrants who are exploiting the system.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Blame the system.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the system.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't blame poor people for trying to not be poor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For fighting for their lives, more or less.
		Through nonviolent means.
		So Alex interprets that that way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's his response.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then Jesse.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, here's my question to you.
		How are we coming down on that?
		Because is that Alex understanding the point and then deliberately misleading?
		Or is that Alex absolutely incapable of listening to another human being talk for any length of time?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's the prior.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You think so?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You think he fully gets that and then he just can't allow that to be in like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, because I mean, even Jesse's point that he made there is like they have criminals there just like we have criminals here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We incarcerate the most people in the world, so therefore don't we have the most criminals?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which you can't argue with if you're Alex.
		So he has to change the argument that's being had.
		Right.
		It's a classic debate tactic.
		I mean, it's minorly gaslighting somebody.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, it's just manipulative.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's even worse is the idea of agreeing with somebody on something they didn't say so you can move on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I really hate that Jesse doesn't call him out on it because clearly Jesse has the kind of status with Alex that he could do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't, but he makes another great point.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For doing it.
		And then Congress sits around criticizing the TSA when they shut it up and control it.
		So I totally agree with you.
		I get your point.
		That said, I don't trust Donald Trump because he supported assault weapons bans, gave money to Hillary Clinton.
		But I've actually watched his full speeches, and he said they're not sending their good people that have money in many cases that are illegals.
		He says a lot of them are criminals fling justice.
		Then the media said Donald Trump says Mexicans are crooks.
		So I think some of that is the media spinning things to make it worse.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		Well, that may be true, too, because, you know, as we both know, the media is in the entertainment business, and the more entertainment and spin they can throw on anything, sells copy.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		You know, look at the trash they give us on TV and make us focus on things that are completely irrelevant.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I agree with just real quick.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You personally have seen a backlash in the last month and a half from this Trump thing.
jesse ventura ▲ ● ▼		Have I, well, have I personally, to be a backlash, no other than people know that I know Donald and they'll ask me and I just say, look, I don't answer for Donald, but I think what he's saying is utterly preposterous and stupid.
		I said that, you know, to state what he states.
		I said, I don't think I care to have a president that would say things like that about people of another country.
		You know, that's not very good diplomacy, in my opinion.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I hear your point overall.
		The problem is, you're in the nice area of the Maja.
		A lot of Mexico has collapsed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And so that is a larger problem.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I wish Mexico well, but do you, Alex?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, but you hear that?
		Like, Jesse just made some great points.
		And also, another thing that's really interesting to point out that they don't get into is that Alex is also in the entertainment business.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was going to say, like, there might as well have been a giant sign directly above Alex Jones saying, I'm entertaining.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is about you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But then his way of getting out of the first thing that Jesse says is to pretend it's about the TSA.
unidentified		Right, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then the way of getting out of the second point that he makes is to say, you know, you live in a nice area.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're not experiencing the Mexico that Donald is talking about, so you wouldn't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Most of the time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So even though I trust you, listen, you're wrong on this one.
		But I'm not going to say it like you're wrong.
		I'm just going to be like, hey, you wouldn't know.
		It's almost like I am saying because you don't have that personal experience, you perhaps don't understand the entirety of their experience.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, Jesse can't conceive of the evil of globalists, apparently.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even though he's been the governor of a state.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Globalist governor of the state.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he got kicked out by the globalists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's like that right there is why we still like Jesse Ventura.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, he has problems.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not always right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He clearly was fucking around with that lawsuit stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was misleading people, but he can come with stuff like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or it's like, hey, good call, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was pretty much right on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And you know what?
		I haven't even heard.
		I don't think I'd ever ever, or I don't, I don't think I've ever heard somebody make that very simple logical argument there, which is we imprison the most people, so we have the most criminals.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's your argument.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you're worried about criminals, you don't want Americans coming to your place.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, and then sort of a secondary aspect of that argument.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is always true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't want Americans coming anywhere near white people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Unless you're France.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then you want our scientists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, take our scientists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The secondary aspect of that argument, too, if you really want to go with it, is that we have people in prison for bullshit charges.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So even the definition of what a criminal is is kind of stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And the idea, the other thing about that is once that's the brand now.
		It's not you committed a crime, it's that you're a criminal and you're always a criminal.
		You're always going to be a criminal.
		And even if you're escaping your life where you were a criminal because, I don't know, one of the Mexican cartels had you and the only way to get out of there was by running away.
		Otherwise, they were going to murder you.
		You committed a crime, so you're always, you're never entitled to do your best to not be a criminal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Once you're a jet, you're a jet all the way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this next clip is really weird.
		Alex is kind of mad that people are, like these insurers and hospitals are refusing to treat veterans, but they'll treat illegal immigrants.
		Oh, boy.
		And so he has a weird fucking theory about it that even internally doesn't make sense.
		Okay.
		Like even the words he's saying, if you grant that the beginning of it is true, the middle can't.
		Oh, I don't just listen to this.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, but if you're illegal, you get the surgery or you get to have your baby for free.
		And we're not against these people, but why is it free for them and not for the vets who've earned it?
		Because the vets are already here and they're done with you.
		They want new people because we aborted 50-plus million of our kids.
		So we do need new people here so Social Security doesn't collapse.
		But they're not even doing that.
		They're already raided Social Security.
unidentified		That's true.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, these are facts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So he thinks he thinks a fact is that we're paying for illegal immigrants' babies to be born in the United States because we've accidentally aborted too many of our own babies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And so the only way for Social Security to prop up is by illegal immigrants' babies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But we need to kick those babies out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we've also already raided Social Security.
		It's so convoluted.
		It's so insane.
		I don't even know where to poke it.
		It's like a weird blob that I'm just like, I know I got to poke it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, veterans are not treated well.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a big problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Certainly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why are you not focused on them?
		Why is your anger just like the Jesse Ventura thing?
		We have the most criminals, so let's blame the system.
		Don't blame the poor people.
		Don't blame the illegal immigrant who has to have her baby here because she can't afford it anywhere else.
		Blame the system that is keeping the veterans from getting coverage and keeping the veterans from being helpless.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Might be a good plan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why wouldn't you do that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want to take a moment to give Alex some credit because even though he does do it in dumb ways that rely on globalists and shit, he does speak a lot about how veterans aren't treated well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he has a good point there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's absolutely true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, the idea that it's some sort of elaborate plot by evil globalists is stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is just.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is it?
		Everybody wants the veterans to be taken care of.
		Nobody wants to pay for veterans to be taken care of.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody wants health care.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody wants to pay for health care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's the budgeting is so much on the front end as opposed to the back end.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all we pay for the war, but we won't pay to take care of people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's not a globalist plot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's just people in Congress being fucking stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and that's the way every military has always worked.
		Every standing military, generally speaking.
		Now, we want you to fight.
		We don't give a fuck once you're done there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan, I told you earlier that the show was going to end with a curveball.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it going to end with a curveball?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jade Helm started the day before this.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, Alex Jones has a statement he wants to make about Jade Helm.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He throws it in the middle of the middle.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They've been caught long, so they've tripled and quadrupled and quintupled and infinited down with lies.
		And so now, as I told you, I said when Jade Helm starts the 15th, you are going to see them everywhere say the laughable nut Alex has been discredited.
		Jade Helm was not martial law.
		Nothing happened.
		When we never said it was going to do that, it was further conditioning.
		And they will just sit there and assault their audience with fraud.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, I can't prove what he did or did not say in the past.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can't do that because I'm not going back through more episodes than I need to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm listening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We may do that investigation sometime down the line.
		But it would be hard for me to pinpoint when he started talking about Jade Helm.
		It would be very difficult to get the timeline on.
		But what I can do is tell you that at the end of this episode, he gets a caller from Alabama who.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're already off to a great start.
		I love random InfoWars callers from Alabama.
		I'm sure there's a lot of insight coming from there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex on this very show has said that people are going to lie and say that Jade Helm, I say that Jade Helm is somehow real and people taking over.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And they're and they're doing that on purpose.
		They're conditioning you to believe that it's never going to be martial law.
		And then whenever it's not this time, they can turn me into the boy who cried wolf.
		And that means that you'll be even more of a sheep the next time.
		That means you'll be ready.
		You'll be primed whenever they're going to do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, one very important thing to keep in mind for those of you who didn't keep up with Jade Helm conspiracy theories.
		One of the big things that the internet was going wild on is claiming that there were a bunch of Walmarts that had been closed down and there were secret tunnels for military and UN forces to go under.
		That they were going to use them as like depot points because they're giant buildings and they're inconspicuous when they're closed.
		So all of these Walmarts had closed down.
		They're like, oh, fuck, they're using them.
		There's tunnels there.
		So that was a big part of that stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's one of those things that if you're a conspiracy theorist, seems like a great plan.
		You're like, oh, that's genius.
		I know how genius that is.
		But then if you're actually trying to do it logistically, you're like, this is a dumb fucking plan.
		We have roads.
		We can just use roads.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I can only come out of in or out of these tunnels at a Walmart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, why would we do that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now the reason that I bring that up is because Walmart will play into this caller.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And let's see how Alex responds to this caller.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, John in Alabama, finish your point.
		You said you're there in Alabama outside the airbase and there's just troops suddenly with name tags off everywhere.
		Yeah, that's what's happening.
		That's part of Jade Helm that is in Alabama.
		They expanded it to Alabama.
		It was seven states.
		It's now 10.
		And it's just, I mean, I see it myself.
		I couldn't wreck and get video of it, but I was in San Marcus yesterday doing an investigation that we're working on, and I saw a black gim rap driving the other side of the road.
		And then I saw Homeland Security people in blue uniforms walking out of a gas station when I was getting gas.
		And they knew what it was, by the way.
		And saw me and kind of did like this and got in their vehicle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Getting into a lot of details for him to be telling the truth on this one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, he said that he couldn't get a video of that car on the road without crashing.
		You could have taken a picture of these guys at a gas station.
		That would have been simple enough, Alex.
		You want to just, you were stationary.
		It would be no problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Homeland Security in blue uniforms is the beginning of any lie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anytime, if there's a color involved, he's making it up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's see.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm not kidding.
		I mean, I mean, as soon as I looked over the gas thing and these people were getting their car, it was two older guys with short beards.
		They just went, God, that's Alex Jones.
		We are just overrun with DHS.
		So tell us what you saw in Walmart.
john in alabama ▲ ● ▼		Okay, I've always been the type of guy, mind my own business, you know, until all this stuff started happening.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I get it.
		I get it.
		You're just a regular guy.
		What'd you say?
john in alabama ▲ ● ▼		And it affects me as an American citizen.
		And, you know, I was raised on patriotic beliefs to stand for and uphold the Constitution because all the men in my family were in the military.
		And I'm in Walmart the other night down here.
		It was real close to 1 o'clock in the morning if it wasn't 1 o'clock in the morning.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, fine.
john in alabama ▲ ● ▼		What'd you see?
		I'm walking through there and I see these two guys in black suits and they've got other guys around them.
		They're talking to a Walmart manager.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Two guys in black suits talking to a manager.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Clearly something nefarious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Two guys in black suits.
		I'm thinking it's the men in black.
		Call me biased.
		But when I see the black suits coming, I nod my head.
		Black suits coming.
		Nod your head.
		That's the theme for men in black, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
john in alabama ▲ ● ▼		And I walk past and people could tell me I'm crazy and full of crap, whatever.
		Like I tried to take a picture and it took my phone.
		They had UN badges on their lapels.
		The little globe with the leaves.
		The same thing on their flag was on their lapels.
		They had ID badges at Fort Rooker.
		UN personnel.
		Like, they are here in America, man.
		They don't want anybody to know.
		As soon as I tried to take a picture of the guy, I was tackled to the ground by what I'm assuming is his bodyguards, arrested by the city police, and my phone was taken, and they still haven't given it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right.
		Okay, if this is true, and I believe you, look out.
		We're going to jump on an airplane right now.
		I want you to put you on hold.
		I want you to scan whatever email, the arrest, the paperwork.
		And we will send reporters up there because, you know, that is just outrageous.
		And, sir, there are UN troops all over the place.
		They have Russian troops.
		And I heard about this year before it was confirmed.
		Training to take on domestic groups.
		It's all part of secret treaties.
		And the treaties are breaking up right now.
		But yes, they have Russian troops training at secret bases in Denver and Colorado Springs.
		Space Machine came out made.
		They made it secret to take on domestic groups.
		So it's a global government.
		It's State Department Memorandum 7277.
		Freedom from war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I looked that up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I read.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait.
		Here's the bigger question.
		How does he know the secret treaties?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That are breaking up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's my favorite.
		The secret treaties.
		You know the secret treaties.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're in the white papers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How does he know they're breaking up?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's in the white papers, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But why would they be breaking up if everything's still going fine?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why throw that little the secret treaties, which are breaking up?
		You could have just said the secret treaties.
		Then you would have been fine.
		You've already made up enough lies, Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't need to further compound it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Take a break.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I looked up the memorandum that he was talking about, the Freedom from War State Department Memorandum 7277.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		77749er.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was written in September of 1961.
		And it is the Freedom from War, the United States Program for General and Complete Disarmament for a Peaceful World.
		So it's mostly in concern about the rapid growth of post-nuclear weapons.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The insanely rapid growth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So they want whoever wrote this, the people who were behind this memorandum, by the way, memorandum, not a law.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope, binding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Agenda 217727.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what memorandum shortens to?
unidentified		Memo.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a note.
unidentified		It's a little note.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a note.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not binding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		7277.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is basically aspiring towards disarmament.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it is, if you're crazy, it looks bad because it does talk about how the end goal is getting rid of armies in every country.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Isn't that the end goal?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Shouldn't that be the end goal?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't we want to become a type one civilization?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would be nice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wouldn't that be better for everybody?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the primary piece of it is nuclear disarmament.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's talking about these technologies that are completely capable of destroying the entire world, setting us off on a trajectory that we don't even know what it would lead to.
		That's the first step of it.
		And then eventually gradual disarmament of armies and creating peacekeeping organizations that will be involved with mitigating crises and conflicts between states could be hashed out as opposed to war.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's idealistic as fuck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the one thing that's really important about it is it doesn't talk about UN forces hanging out, Russian secret training or anything like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And further in secret memo 207277.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The first part of it is not achieved.
		You know what I'm saying?
		A lot of people still have nukes.
		So like even Beginning pieces of it haven't been successfully implemented.
		It's like his fear of that Cloud and Piven plan that he brings up over and over again.
		It's like that wasn't implemented.
		Someone wrote about it.
		Some professor wrote that, like, oh, hey, if we overwhelmed the welfare system, people would have to take it more seriously.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's fiction.
		It's like he's like he's saying, you know, Aldous Huxley, he's the one who knew.
		That's what we're living in now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he would say that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think he would say that too.
		Yeah.
		But that's the point.
		It's all speculative fiction.
		That's the issue that he just can't discern what is.
		Do you ever stop and think, like, oh, we created all of the weapons necessary to kill all of us?
		And we just have them lying around.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we have for a long time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Getting old.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, there are still nuclear weapon systems that use floppy disks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And we're just fine with that.
		We're just like, yeah, this is great.
		I'm sure that'll never be a problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's absolutely insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the idea that you wouldn't be on board with just a vague, just like, hey, maybe let's try and get to a point where we're not always on the edge of global destruction.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd need to study this memorandum a little closer in order to have like an assessment on it.
		But just from my read of it, my once-through reading, I would say it is a great goal, but it is way too idealistic to work in reality.
		But yeah, I don't or in the near future.
		In a general sense, taking the memorandum out of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
		Why wouldn't you want war to stop?
		What vested interest, other than making money, do people have in war continuing?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Population control.
unidentified		Oh.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There you go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dominance.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So anyway.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good cultures versus bad cultures, Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We don't start wars for any other reason than to make their culture better.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nationalism, prosperity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's what it's about.
		Second Amendment.
		Second Amendment.
		Private property.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex puts him on hold.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then he has an interview that's really boring with Jerome Coursey.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Then we get him back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, whenever he was like, scan the paperwork, I was like, oh, we're not going to hear from this fella again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to confirm that at least as of July 22nd, this has not come back up.
		No.
		And I guarantee it doesn't ever.
		Yeah.
		But he does come back after the Jerome Coursey interview, and shit gets real.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now, John in Alabama, thank you for holding.
		If folks just joined us, you should be doing well.
		You live in Alabama outside an airbase, and you're in there at Walmart at 1 in the morning a few days ago, and they grab you, take you to jail, but don't charge you, and say, come back later.
		I've seen that with demonstrators before.
		And you were there, and there were guys with UN name tags with a guy in a black uniform, and they tackled you, and the police came and took you to jail.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not necessarily.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Amazing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And if this is true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which it isn't.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's incredible.
		What else can you tell us about this?
		What did the police say to you in the squad car?
		Was anything else said to you?
john in alabama ▲ ● ▼		Well, Alex, I don't know about how censorship is on your show, so I'm pretty sure I can't quote them verbatim.
		But in a nutshell, they told me that I asked up by wanting to get picture happy with my iPhone.
		And, you know, I told him I was just, I mean, I could be wrong, but I just, I told them I was exercising my First Amendment right.
		Freedom of speech, freedom of press, freedom of assembly.
		And they didn't care.
		Like, my iPhone is probably no more.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wait, they didn't even give you your iPhone?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They didn't give you your phone back?
john in alabama ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
john in alabama ▲ ● ▼		When I left the city jail, they told me that I could pick my iPhone up when I picked my paperwork up.
unidentified		And, you know, I've, you know, like I said earlier, you went to break earlier.
john in alabama ▲ ● ▼		I've been arrested a few times.
		I know the ins and outs.
		You're supposed to be formally charged.
		You're supposed to get paperwork as soon as you get kicked loose, whether it's you have to pay to get out or you get a recognized bond, a property bond, what have you, and they give you your property back.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, sir, here's the deal.
		I would call the local media and I would say, troops stole my iPhone at the Walmart.
		They won't give it back.
		That's a news story.
		And if they won't cover it, we'll come up there.
		And I'll go in there with a video camera to the police department and say, give them his iPhone back and let them try to arrest me.
		That's fine if they do.
		But I believe you.
		I've had similar things happen to me.
		This is incredible.
		Describe these UN troops for us.
		How were they dressed?
		What the uniforms look like.
		Where were they in the Walmart?
		Break it down for us.
john in alabama ▲ ● ▼		Okay, the men that I saw in the Walmart, the gentlemen that I'm presuming are bodyguards because they're the ones that pulled what I'm assuming is Glock 17s because that's standard issue sidearm.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, wait, they pulled firearms on you?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I really don't know.
john in alabama ▲ ● ▼		Yes, yes.
		They drew down on me in Walmart while two of them, there was a total of six.
		Four of them drew down on me and covered me while two of them took me to the ground.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's unprecedented.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Armed troops pulled a gun on you.
john in alabama ▲ ● ▼		Armed in plain clothes, and I'm assuming that they were protecting the two men in the suits with the badges on their lapel.
john in alabama ▲ ● ▼		And like, I didn't mean them any harm.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, I mean, I understand it was some type of diplomats or something that think they're God.
		Yeah.
		So what happened next?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or they're just on the throat.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're on the morning.
john in alabama ▲ ● ▼		No resistance at all because I'm.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We're almost out of time.
		What else happened?
		What else happened?
john in alabama ▲ ● ▼		Okay, well, you know, they detained me and held me on the ground.
		One of them had a knee in my back, holding both my hands behind my back, and I let it go on.
		And then the city police arrived, and they carted me off to jail.
		And, you know, I got down a couple hours later on what they said was a recognized bond.
		You know, in good faith, I'll show you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Brother, here's the deal.
		I'm going to send a reporter up there.
		I believe you.
		We need to go back to Walmart, recreate it.
		We need to go to the police department.
		This is huge.
		Armed UN forces tackling and then robbing a citizen's iPhone and taking them to jail.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is not the behavior of someone who doesn't believe Jade Helm is real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is the behavior of someone who's looking for a way to believe it's real, but knowing without concrete evidence, he's going to be made fun of.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he gets this hillbilly collar on the air that's clearly lying to him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just beautifully lying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I would say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Something is missing from that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Especially because the number of people involved keep going up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It does change a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I saw two guys in black suits.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Talking to the man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, there were bodyguards.
		He had a bodyguard.
		He had a bodyguard.
		Then it became he had bodyguards.
		Then they pulled Glock 17s.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		First, they took his phone, then they tackled him.
		Then they pulled guns on him.
		It's nonsense.
		I believe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, the fact that he just casually references Glock 17s is like, no, I don't like that at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very specific.
		I don't like that at all.
		I am not saying that he's making something up out of whole cloth, but there's some element of the story that's missing.
		Maybe he was high.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, police did also tell him that he couldn't bring that brown bag inside the Walmart.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why the fuck would you be at a Walmart at one in the morning if you're not high?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, I don't know any reason to go to Walmart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He ran out of socks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He ran out of socks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He smoked them all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have you not smoked them?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
unidentified		All right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're unfairly drawing Alabama and hillbillies in a broad brush.
unidentified		Yeah, now I say, boy, how to do it boys down there in Alabama.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's too biou.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was way too biou.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's tough for me to slide right into the South or Midwest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, that's...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Slide right into my DMs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's it for the 16th of the show.
		Alex invalidates his own claim that he's not buying into Jade Helm by buying in real hard for a random caller.
		He has been schooled by Jesse Ventura, but he's also teased his heel turn about Trump.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very clear that it's only a matter of time now after July 16th until he inevitably does get in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And is it just the bigotry?
unidentified		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It sure seems like it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It kind of does at this point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It seems like really all he's interested in is the fact that Trump says we should hate immigrants.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's basically all he's.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Pretty much.
		Yeah.
		So I was going to cut it off at the 16th for this episode.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we have to talk about the 17th.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, what happened on the 17th?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The 17th is one of my favorite Alex Jones episodes I've ever listened to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I'm just going to play the beginning of the show, and you'll see why.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, I'm going to jump the shark intentionally at the start of the next segment.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So call your friends and family.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is that?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling them to tune into the broadcast.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What does that even mean?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let me start the next segment in exactly seven minutes, 12 seconds from now.
		So start the countdown.
		Get ready because we are going to be broadcasting down some information that may actually shake large portions of the population out of their mind control.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that what jumping the shark is?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I guess so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is jumping the shark?
		What does he think it means?
		He uses it a lot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fortune favors the bold.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't know what it means.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't understand aphorisms.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He really doesn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Unfortunately, he does literally jump the shark.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This episode is embarrassing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I don't want to spoil for you what the actual jumping of the shark is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand, again, what it is we're talking about, but I'm excited to find out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know if it's going to work better if I just spell it out up top.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I want to hear it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to hear it cold.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so I have split up the actual shark jump into three parts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Preparation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it's six.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The buying of water skis?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Motorcycle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Definitely got to get a motorcycle there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		That's right.
		It is water skis.
		I'm sorry.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I forgot.
		It's, what was it?
		Happy days.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but he also jumped something on a motorcycle at some point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They got very into the jumping of things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There are six parts to this shark jump.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And each one of them is held up by a complete bullshit lie.
		All right.
		One of his tent posts, one of his waypoint stories that he's been telling, we haven't really dealt with a lot of the 2015 tent posts, the waypoints.
		So we get to take care of all of them in one fell swoop during this jumping of the shark.
		It's amazing.
		So here we go.
		We're going to start it off with the first clip.
		This is seven minutes and a couple seconds after the last one.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Terror threats are being used to take our freedoms.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Agreed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The Patriot Act is used 99 plus percent of the time against non-terror-related cases to overturn the Bill of Rights and Constitution.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Perfect.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Stop there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now that's political correctness.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whole thing's done.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Anything is hurtful to anyone, they're saying it's banned.
		That's totalitarianism.
		So what we need is some strong medicine to force the logical point, to force the debate, to have the controlled trader media attack us for making this point, and then to have the American public have a logical discussion.
		Now, they will take what I'm about to say out of context.
		This is a big announcement.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How is that an announcement?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But it's not done satirically.
		It's done at a level of logical discussion.
		If we're going to ban paper bags that are brown in Seattle government because someone might be hurt that they're brown bags, no one ever said brown bags, anything to do with racism.
		They just say it to set the precedent.
		They can ban and restrict whatever they want.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's the first waypoint is that they're outlawing brown bags in Seattle.
		They're not.
		This was based on a memo that a Seattle Elliot Bronstein, the chief spokesman for the Seattle Office of Civil Rights, advised the city's public information officers to avoid the phrase brown bag and use terms like sack lunch or lunch and learn according to a memo, which is being widely misreported as an order or a ban.
		Now, the reason that he did this was.
		Okay, I'm just going to read his quote.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I assume it has something to do with alcohol.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
		This issue came up in one of the departments, and I thought I'd send it around as an FYI for your consideration, the memo reads.
		We often use the expression brown bag to designate a bring your own lunchtime event.
		We also use the word citizens as a synonym for residence.
		Innocuous phrases, right?
		It went on.
unidentified		Hmm.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not so much.
		For some people, the phrase brown bag calls up ugly associations with the use of the expression brown bag to determine if people's skin color was light enough to allow admission to an event or a home.
		Citizens is a different case.
		We sometimes use it as another way of saying members of the public, except for all the members of the public who aren't actually citizens, who live and work here.
		It's basically a fucking, the chief spokesman for the Office of Civil Rights issued a memo to city employees that asked them to be more sensitive.
		Yeah.
		Because there is a history of it.
		I've looked into it.
		That's not made up.
unidentified		No, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The idea of passing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anything that, any reference to racism in American history, even if I have no context for it, I'll be like, yeah, that's probably true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that this is probably stretching a little bit in terms of the descriptors of this bag is brown.
		Yeah.
		It's not, but at the same time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's just, he's just saying, you know, like, language is important.
		Be specific with your words.
		Yeah.
		That's all he's saying.
		A lot of the times, just be more specific.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sack lunch is no more difficult to say.
		It's no less descriptive.
		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's not a ban.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was him being like, hey, try and do this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But at this point, the shark jump has been described.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, the plan that he has is so mind-bogglingly stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we don't even know what exactly it is yet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But his plan is going to say something.
		What he's outlined.
		His idea of how this is going to work is he's going to say something intentionally fucked up.
		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So that the media will report on it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But even though it's intentionally fucked up, they're going to take him out of context.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which boggles the mind even further.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's what he's trying to do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then that will force everyone to come together and have a conversation about how stupid the fucked up thing he said was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		More or less.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's trying to play the Mark Dice game on a pro level.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But what he doesn't realize is the Mark Dice game only works because it's a closed loop.
		You don't have any rogue actors in there like the actual media.
		So like the media is not going to play along with this the way you play along with Mark Dice's reporting and create your circle of propaganda.
		They are going to take it on its face.
		They're going to deal with what you say and be like, holy shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And we'll get to it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And even then, they could just go back and listen to the first part where he said, this is what we're going to do.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep, that is a problem, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you're trying to trick people, don't tell people you're tricking them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah, that is a problem.
		Alex is dumb, though.
		And it's so fucking hilarious for him to say.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Although, then again, that is Jerome Coursey's plan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's what they do.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		This time, we're actually going to do propaganda.
		Jerome, Coursey, buddy, maybe.
		You're way past that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to be paying thousands of dollars for people to soy bomb CNN.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Dude, no.
		Not a propaganda campaign.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So.
		He goes on.
		And like I said, I didn't cut anything out.
		These are just segmented.
		I took a break pretty much whenever he got to one of his lies.
		Seattle brown bag shit is a complete misrepresentation and a lie, as we come to expect from Alex.
		Here's the next one.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If we're going to tell kids nationwide in public schools under no child left behind, you're purple penguins.
		You can't be a boy or girl.
		It might hurt someone that doesn't identify as a boy or girl.
		If you can't have your identity because it might hurt someone else, that is the greatest form of oppression psychologically I could imagine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is another one of his big waypoints.
unidentified		But can't you just can't you just for one second turn that around?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, hey, if you can't have your identity because it hurts somebody else.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like Alex?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Like, maybe think about how your identity has hurt somebody else a lot.
		Or maybe somebody else can't have their identity because you don't want to feel bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're on a real interesting tip that Alex is not interested in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He cannot grapple with.
		How is it that you just can't grapple with the turn it the other way?
		Right.
		It's not even hard.
		It's super easy.
		Like, if I feel one way and I don't like that, what if somebody else who isn't me feels that way?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like if he sees the letter A right here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's like, ah, that's the letter A.
		And then it moves a little bit over there.
		He's like, what the fuck is that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Exactly.
		Exactly.
		How do you not just take that little step?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so would you like to learn about this waypoint?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex has been saying for a really long time, and I don't think I've played it on the show, that nationally, in schools, they're telling kids that they can't be boys or girls anymore.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They have to be purple penguins.
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That'd be fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this is because saying boys and girls are hurtful to trans-identifying students.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which doesn't make any sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's stupid.
		But here's the thing.
		If you look into it, this is based on a story out of Lincoln, Nebraska specifically.
		And there were some materials that were provided to teachers by a group called the Gender Spectrum, which is an organization whose website states a goal of fostering, quote, gender-sensitive and inclusive environment for all children and teens.
		So inside their materials, it has this.
		I'll just read this quote.
		Don't use phrases such as boys and girls, you guys, ladies and gentlemen, and similarly gendered expressions to get kids' attention, instructs a training document given to middle school teachers at the Lincoln Public Schools.
		Create classroom names and then ask all the purple penguins to meet on the rug.
		The document also warns against asking students to line up as boys and girls and suggests asking them to line up whether they prefer skateboards or bikes, milk or juice, dogs or cats, summer or winter, talking or listening.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, do you mean by who you are as a person as opposed to what you have between your legs?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and it goes on to say, ask yourself, always ask yourself, will this configuration create a gendered space?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The document asks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think that's actually a very smart thing that sounds really dumb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just mean that it has the ring of, like, even while...
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everything that has to do with kids is dumb.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		To adults.
		But that's that.
		No, I mean, I mean, that's that angle.
		Like, I immediately have that knee-jerk reaction of like, dudes, you're going overboard with this.
		Let's just, but that makes perfect sense just in a form of education.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just like that idea of we're not immediately putting you into your blue and your pink.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're given your choice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're like, oh, I am not a boy or a girl.
		I am somebody who enjoys this.
		I am a person first with my own thoughts and feelings, and I'm not a, I'm not whatever you tell me I am.
		And I'm allowed to choose and grow in the way that I want to.
		And that makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the arbitrary arbitrary specific of purple penguins in that readout in that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's just little group names.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, just create teams within the classroom and give them names.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's like getting mad at Legends of the Hidden Temple.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Silver Monkeys.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very, very unhappy with that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, the Shrine of the Silver Monkey, or that one where you had to put the three pieces of the monkey together and no one could ever fucking do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I remember I screamed at the TV about that when I was a kid, and then someone made a group about it on Facebook like years and years ago.
		I'm like, you fucking asshole.
		Now I can't complain about it.
		Now it's hacky for me to remember that it made me mad.
		I'm like, God damn it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what's even worse?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't complain about it also because one of the reasons that it was so hard for them was because they were shooting for like 12 or 14 hours straight.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, another reason is most of them weren't tall enough to put the head on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There were many issues with Legend of the Hidden Temple.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, you know, people got mad about this, and led by people, I mean, Alex.
		Yeah.
		But there's more.
		So Brenda Ligario, the Lincoln Public Schools Coordinator for Social Workers and Counselors, clarified to the Lincoln Journal Star after the issue gained widespread attention.
		The materials were provided as guidelines for educators to better understand gender identity issues and were not intended to impose rules mandating how those issues should be addressed.
		Quote, the handouts provided by a staff member on a district equity team were meant only for teachers, not for students or parents, she said.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they were not meant as rules staff had to follow, but as suggestions for how teachers can make students feel comfortable.
		It also stresses the impact words can have on others.
		If there's a staff member that's uninformed and unsupportive, that can be pretty scary for a family maybe struggling to understand transgender issues themselves.
		So that just sounds like a really good progressive school district, quite frankly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what it always brings me back to almost all of this?
		Almost all of this always winds up boiling down into be thoughtful.
		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex hates that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a huge.
		I read the DAO like 10 million times when I was growing up.
		And just one of those very simple things was always be mindful, be thoughtful with your actions.
		Think before you just randomly or just like think about how does this make somebody else feel first instead of I want to do it, so I'm going to.
		It's a great ideal.
		I mean, it never happens.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		So to make matters worse for Alex's narrative, the Lincoln Public School Superintendent Steve Joel pushed back against what he said was a misinformed reaction to the district's gender identity training by national commentators and news outlets.
		Right.
		Quote, it's indeed regrettable for the last week and a half we've had to dedicate as much staff time and resources to address an issue that is not founded in fact.
		Never once has anyone inside our school mandated that a teacher take the words boys or girls or ladies and gentlemen out of their interactions with children or interaction with adults.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This was about adults, professional educators who care deeply about trying to reach and establish relationships with children.
		They are looking for strategies about how to be more effective in the classroom.
		So fuck you, Alex.
		You're a liar.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Get mad about real shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why do we always have to, why do they have to make things up to be angry about?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But, bro, that's what I'm talking about.
		That's why this is jumping the shark.
		He's accidentally doing what he's parodying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He thinks he's doing it satirically, but he's just going overboard on his narratives in one chunk.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, this next clip, he actually jumps the shark.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He does the jump that he had prepared, which is crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then this clip ends with another lie.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's the wildest cult programming that I could ever even envision in my mind.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Period.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's way better cult programming.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So to assault these people, we have to point out that what they're doing is unconstitutional.
		It's tyrannical.
		It's totalitarian.
		It's oppressive.
		It's cultic.
		But also, it can't be selectively enforced.
		It can't be discriminatory.
		And so.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If we have radical Muslims being brought in by the hundreds of thousands a year from everywhere from Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Name two more countries.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Areas of northeastern Africa like Somalia.
unidentified		One.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Who are then constantly getting caught trying to carry out attacks or who are carrying out attacks against soft targets?
		Well, if it's hurtful to people, they're doing that.
		And if we blame all white people for the shooter in Charleston, the deranged shooter, and if we blame the Confederate battle flag for that, then I'm calling for all Muslim symbols to be removed.
		And I'm calling for all mosques in the United States to be shut down.
		And I'm calling for all self-identifying Muslims of any type to be deported to their original country of origin, even if they've been here 200 years.
		I want all Muslims deported now.
		And I want all Muslims to have their mosque shut down and their minarets removed and their symbols removed.
		And anyone wearing a crescent moon around their neck, I want them arrested.
		Because we've got police showed up at SWAP meets saying they're there to arrest people selling rebel flags.
		Total tyranny.
		Hardcore oppression.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we'll get back.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, then, let's see it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll get back to that rebel flag thing in a minute.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I didn't think he was going to let the rebel flag go the moment the rebel flag.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, I meant I'm going to get back to it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But so just to sort of dispense with why that argument is really stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the dumbest argument.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but just to lay it out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just to lay it out, because he thinks he's being logical.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's not.
		There's a really foundational problem with the way he's presenting this.
		And that is, in order for his argument to make sense, then the Confederacy or worship of the Confederate flag would have to be a federally protected group.
		It would have to be a religion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which, in a lot of ways, it basically is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But in order for him to make this argument logically sound, actually, it does work.
		It's just all his premises are wrong.
		Like, it works as a logical, like, okay, yeah, I mean, it's dumb, but like, it does strictly work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand how you think it works.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, because it doesn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it doesn't have to be true for it to actually work logically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's saying if Muslims attacking people hurts someone, and if the Confederate flag being hung hurts someone, we take down symbols of the Confederate flag when a Confederate person or someone inspired by the Confederate flag hurts people.
		Therefore, we should take down all symbols of Muslim people when a person inspired by Islam attacks somebody.
		It actually does work, strictly speaking, in terms of A then B, B then C, C then D.
		It's stupid, but it doesn't matter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, is that why?
		Okay.
		Yeah, I see where you're coming from.
		You're right.
		It's just that the premises are so, so stupid.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, and the premises don't, they don't, it's the difference.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they're not a one-to-one premise, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, it's the difference between valid and sound when you're talking about logic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can have a valid argument that's not sound.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, because it's made up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		In order to have sound arguments, you need to have true premises that lead to a conclusion.
		It needs to be in the proper form, and things have to be true.
		You can have a valid argument that's not sound if you just have bullshit in there.
		You can just have lies, but as long as it's set up right, it's not that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I get what you're saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Truth can't lead to falsity.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Falsity can lead to truth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I got you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the thing is, like I said, the really big thing is that in order for you to make this argument and make it work, you have to put in something that makes the Confederacy, which is a rogue failed insurgency, basically.
		That has to be exactly the same as a religion.
		And if you want to make that argument, Alex, you can, but then you have to say a whole bunch of other shit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It implies a bunch of stuff that I don't think he realizes he's implying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That would be an interesting.
		I mean, because it, for a lot of people, it does function as something of a religion.
		I mean, even the idea, well, I mean, the idea that the South will rise again very much has those religious overtones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jesus will rise.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And then the fervency of the belief in the flag itself.
		And, you know, it's very much a, it is a worship.
		We worship the past.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Could you see Confederacy becoming a religion?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A federally protected religion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The people who believe that we should have the Confederate flag hanging should have to agree to go to church together and worship that flag.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't think so.
		But also, like, see, this is the thing that I find the most interesting about people trying to use logic who don't know anything about logic.
		Whenever you make arguments like the one Alex is making, you have a bunch of they're not really even assumptions, but they're implied premises that you don't really even realize are in there.
		And when you make your argument, you're actually saying a ton more than you're actually getting to.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is one of them.
		And the other thing is, like I said, things have to be true.
		People weren't calling.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ha ha, Dan!
		Dan, you sweet, naive child.
		I'm just saying, Dan, you're such a beauty to see your wide-eyed optimism saying that things have to be true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, to be sound, like I said, to be sound.
		So the other thing that he's not taking into consideration is that people weren't saying we should ban the Confederate flag.
		There were just a bunch of businesses that got pressure from people who didn't want them to sell it, and they replied to the free market.
		They made a decision based on what their consumers were saying.
		Places like Walmart stopped selling the flag.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Free market.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex should be thrilled with that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but they're not bringing prosperity back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're bringing free market, but it's not prosperity.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So secondarily.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As we all know, prosperity is about that battle flag.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Secondarily, people wanted the Confederate flag taken out of state buildings because, of course, it should not be in government buildings.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's such a weird thing.
		So those were the reasons.
		That's like if North Vietnam was hanging a United States flag.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here's the other thing.
		If he wants to make the argument based on reality, which I think might be a better argument to make, because I agree with him if he were making this argument, which is, well, actually, I wouldn't agree with him if he was using terrorism as one of the foundational premises, but be that as it may.
		If he's saying people, in reality, are trying to ban the Confederate flag being flown in government buildings.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they're doing that because it hurts people.
		Some people are offended by Islam.
		Whether or not that's rational is another question.
		So the Islamic flags should not be flown in our government state buildings.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, but they shouldn't be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But neither should the Confederate flags.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if he's making that argument, then cool.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he's saying on their own property.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's going so far, but I know he's doing it satirically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, he's thinking he's doing it satirically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		I understand that.
		I understand that he's not literally calling for these things.
		But the form he's using is so flawed.
		Like, he just drives me up a fucking wall.
unidentified		I could spend half an hour talking about all the bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he ends that, though, with the you're being a pedant is really what's going on.
		I am flashing into the part of myself that should have been a professor.
		Yeah, yeah, exactly.
		So I looked into the idea that people were storming swap meets and trying to get the Confederate flag taken down.
		Yeah, or arresting people for selling Confederate flags.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Arresting people that you can't do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I looked it up and I accidentally googled Confederate flag arrests.
		And what I found was a couple of bad stories.
		One is, I'll just read you this headline, tell you a little bit about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Somebody just arrested a Confederate flag.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Put it in cuffs.
		They waved the Confederate flag and a shotgun at a black child's party.
		Now they're headed to prison on terrorism charges.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's one story I found.
		Another one, a man bombed Walmart because it stopped selling Confederate flag in Mississippi.
		Another one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, I know what you're saying.
		It seems bad.
		But was anybody arrested for selling the Confederate flag?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I did find one story about police and a swap market or a swap meet.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A shopper perusing the merchandise at a Redwood County flea market was so offended by a vendor selling Confederate and Nazi historical memorabilia, the person actually called 911.
		Wallingsford, Connecticut police were dispatched to the flea market to investigate.
		The police chief, William Wright, tells News 8, the reason no one was arrested was because the items were being sold on private property.
		Not to mention, not to mention, no laws.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No laws were broken.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because of course!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There was a table set up with this material, Wright says, according to the journal record.
		It's not criminally illegal, but obviously it offended this person.
		It causes some people a sense of being uncomfortable.
		Certainly the owner could preclude this merchandise.
		He said he could if he wanted to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the owner could do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The town resident who called 911 said that there were helmets with swastikas, images of Hitler, and other historical Nazi items.
		Quote, I was shaking and almost vomiting, he tells the paper.
		I had to run.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do not turn on the history channel.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My grandmother had numbers, he said, referring to the digits Nazis would tattoo on their prisoners.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The caller complained that the Confederate items were, quote, not authentic and replicas of flags and weapons.
		He said the seller told him he was, quote, selling so much he can't keep it in stock.
		So basically what happened, this has to be the story he's talking about.
		It's from around the same time.
		It's a flea market.
		It's police coming in.
		I couldn't find any other stories.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody got arrested for selling the flag.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		Just completely making that part up out of whole cloth.
		It's absolutely absurd.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think his argument would be that liberal snowflakes want people arrested for selling the Confederate flag.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, those liberal snowflakes who survived the Holocaust.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or if their family did.
		Yeah.
		Maybe.
		I don't even know if he would want that guy arrested.
		I don't know.
		The calling the police part is a little strange, but I get where he's coming from.
		It's look, I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, I liked the fact that at the end he was like, and the shit wasn't even real.
unidentified		Well, that's just getting a nice little jab.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's some good stuff right there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm a big fan of this dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is not done with his shark jumping rant.
		He has a couple more things he wants to bring in.
		Here's one of them.
		And again, I didn't cut anything out.
		It's just segments.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's see if the controlled left won't just edit what I just said and we'll take it in context.
		Because the truth is most Muslims aren't radicals.
		Most Muslims aren't terrorists.
		The truth is that in general, the people coming to this country just want to work and be successful and are fleeing the oppression of radical Islam.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You should stop there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know a lot of Muslims.
		I went to school a lot of Muslims.
		I don't support blaming all Muslims for what just happened.
		But you know what?
		There have been a lot of Muslim groups allied with the left who are calling to remove the Confederate flag and who are getting into this whole anti-Anglo-Saxon, anti-white garbage.
		And so it's time for white people and anyone else that doesn't want to be oppressed to say, I'm not going to be blamed for what somebody else does.
		But if you want to play by that game, we know statistically over 95% of terrorism in the world is carried out by Islamic extremists.
		The rest by criminal groups who want ransoms.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not even close to true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not even close to true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just to give you a little bit of an idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in the United States, for example, 94% of terrorist attacks carried out in the United States between the years of 1980 to 2005 were done by non-Muslims.
unidentified		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of them were environmental groups.
		A lot of them were animal rights groups, even a lot of them do.
		Because, you know, if you do a little arson, that counts as a terrorist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Get a little arson.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Get a little arson out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex likes to talk about Europe, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you do a little arson.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He talks about how all these attacks are being carried out in Europe.
		Of course.
		So there have been a thousand terrorist attacks in Europe in the last five years when this article was written.
		And less than 2% were carried out throughout the entirety of Europe by Muslims.
		Of course.
		So, I mean, if you want to go worldwide and say, like, you know, Muslims fighting off our shit in other countries, our acts of terrorism, you get into real murky territory.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One of the big problems with terrorism is that people use it as a stopgap or a catch-all.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When terrorism is very specific, it is a group of people or a person doing a relatively small thing with a big footprint in order to influence government policy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what it is.
		And the thing is, the Charleston shooting was not terrorism.
		It wasn't.
		It was a dude who wanted to cause a race war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's political implications to it, but yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		But he wasn't trying to influence the government into doing that.
		No, he was trying to influence white people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's this weird disconnect between like there is that political terrorism, but then there is just also trying to strike fear into everybody.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's definitely that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I don't know.
unidentified		I think but that's an execution.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I agree with your point.
		Look, it's silly, I think, to include in your.
		Because Alex doesn't care about things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, why are we even pretending?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, Alex only really cares about things that are being done against the West.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So if we include United States and Europe into that, the attacks that are done by Muslims are infinitesimal.
		Less than 6% in the United States, less than 2% in Europe.
		And then if you want to talk about what is actually terrorism in the rest of the world, does Alex care if they do stuff to each other?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do we have any Australian terrorists?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		There was that one guy.
		You don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a vague response.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know who I'm talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He had a knife.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He did have a knife?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It wasn't a knife.
unidentified		I didn't have a knife.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was Paul Hogan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, the crocodile hunter did strike fear in the hearts of crocodiles.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's no doubt about that.
		So, I mean, look, I don't know.
		It's a really complicated issue to discuss, but I know Alex's statistics are wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I know that.
		Whatever it is he says that's lies, we are trying to make sense of.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's saying that 90% of the world's terrorism is all Muslims.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is bananas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the rest of it is just people looking to get ransoms and stuff like that.
		It's like kidnappings in Brazil and shit.
		But then you have to say that even if you are saying that, you're not taking into account all those environmental and animal rights groups that are burning shit down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which he should be happy to pile on with.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, this is like that cat sanctuary.
larry elder ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just come out and throw him on there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's Muslims and Muslim sympathizers, which, as we know, are big fans of the environment.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And animals?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They love them.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's saying that that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're all evil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's saying that that's all of what terrorism is, but some people will try and make a caveat.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They'll point towards Oklahoma City.
		That's come out in mainstream news, which is funny as a $3 bill.
		Totally shut up.
		Southern Poverty Law Center running the white supremacist compound.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It has not come out in mainstream news.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I did find an article in World News Daily that had no sourcing about this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is World News Daily?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Basically another.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You come up with a bunch of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, is it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's just ⁇ it's a blog, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't have a cool angry Texan doing a radio show with it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Got to get more popular, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's where Jerome Corsi used to work before he defected to InfoWars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jesus Christ.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So it's got great credibility.
unidentified		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like Zero Hedge.
		It's in that world.
		I don't know what Zero Hedge is.
		It's like World News Daily.
		So I found an article about it on there that had no evidence and no links to anything else.
		Of course.
		There was a claim of a secret FBI memo, but it didn't link to that.
		It didn't have any.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, it was secret.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but it was apparently leaked or whatever.
		It didn't have a link to it.
		It didn't show a copy of it.
		It just claimed that it existed.
		The only thing I was able to find was apparently the place, the white supremacist group that Timothy McVeigh was involved with was called Elohim City.
		And apparently, the Southern Poverty Law Center did have a mole inside.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they had infiltrated the group, and that's how they got a lot of information about the group.
		So that part is kind of true in as much as they had someone who was doing research.
		Now, there's no reason to believe that this person in any way influenced Timothy McVeigh to do things that he was already prone to do based on statements he'd been making for the last 10 goddamn years before that.
		There's also no reason to believe that this mole within Elohim City would have had any foreknowledge of Timothy McVeigh's plan.
		Because even if you have a white supremacist group, there's no indication that you'd just be like at an open meeting being like, I'm going to blow up the Murray building.
		You know, that seems kind of clunky.
		You can't assume that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, guys, I'm a totally cool white supremacist.
		You guys like blowing shit up.
		I like blowing shit up.
		When are we going to plan to blow shit up?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let me tell you one thing I know about people who are involved in these sorts of fringe groups.
		One of the trends that runs through all of them is a certain amount of paranoia.
		A lot of them have good reason to believe that anybody in that group could be a government mole.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it might be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a good idea to get a mole in these.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You've got to know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because these are basically like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're terrorist groups.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		You know how you want intel.
		Alex, you know how you want intel on what a terrorist group in Iraq is doing?
		So do we, but also on the ones in the United States.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're sleeper cells here, essentially.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They are that which you are afraid of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, look, it's so dumb.
		It's just, it's, again, it's making stuff up out of whole cloth.
		So I don't, look, I don't know.
unidentified		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, we had one more clip of the shark jump.
		And in this one, so there's a.
		Wait, wait, so what was so the shark jump is ban all Muslims.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But then he did go on after that.
		Now, that's not true.
		Right.
		I don't believe that.
		What I do believe is we should ban most Muslims.
		Like, how did he think that's a shark jump?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Again, I don't get where he thinks satire in reality, where the line is, where sincerity falls on that spectrum.
		I have no idea.
		But I know that what he means is that I'm going to say that I call for the banning of all Muslim symbols, the closing of all mosques, the deportation of all Muslims, and then people will take that out of context.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They won't point out that afterwards I said, I'm not saying that seriously.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or immediately before it, I said, I'm going to fuck with people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there's a logical form of sort of dealing with arguments called reducto ad absurdium.
		And that's where you take someone's argument and you point out an example of what their logic implies that turns it into absurdity.
		Yeah.
		It's Italian or Latin for reduce to absurdity.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones in this next clip accidentally does that to his own fake argument.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is actually a real treat.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's jump this shark.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		But separate from that, this is the logic.
		This is what they're pushing.
		And so if one man killing nine people, one degenerate white person who couldn't even get the Klan to follow him committed that heinous act, then ladies and gentlemen, we have to remove the Confederate flag next to the American flag.
		Now they're calling to remove Mount Rushmore.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Again, that's Mark Dice shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All Mark Dice.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's remove every symbol somebody uses in a wrong way.
		If somebody runs over somebody with a Ford truck, I want Ford to change its symbol, change its name, and I want, by law, every Ford symbol removed.
		And if you don't, $10,000 fine.
		And there have been people that have used Chevy cars to kill people in crowds.
		I want Chevy banned.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now, that is a stupid application of his logic.
		It unfortunately isn't at all related to the logic of people who want the Confederate flag taken out of state buildings.
		It doesn't work at all.
		The only thing that him making this stupid fake argument about Chevy trucks have been used to mow down people, so ban Chevy trucks, that only hurts your fake argument.
		It only shows how different that is from anything anybody else is saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he has just fucking thrown a javelin through his argument.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he might as well have been like, oh, well, somebody from Iran came over here and committed a terrorist act, so we should ban all people from Iran from coming into the United States.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wait, I think he is saying that now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, is he saying that now?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's odd.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He might be in the middle of the day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a direct one-to-one comparison.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It turns out that might be actually like all this stuff where he's claiming he's jumping the shark might be what he actually believes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It does seem like that, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it does feel that way.
		He's really careful to try, like, over the next couple episodes, he is like, now what I did was, you know what?
		It didn't work the way he wanted it to.
		Of course, I don't think anyone picked up on it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No one was like, oh, we got to report on this.
		If he did it today, people would be fucking talking about it.
		But 2015, people didn't care nearly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But even then, if he did it today, people would be talking about how dumb he is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not for saying we should ban all Muslim symbols, but for saying, I am going to do this as a lie, then lie, and then I'm going to tell you that I was lying about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, knowing media matters and the way they operate, I bet they would fall for it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, I think you're, I think you're.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that episode with the fill your hand yelling at Adam Schiff, they didn't talk about how he's clearly drunk on that episode.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They aren't the best at picking up all the context of what's going on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But they meanwhile, I'm not trying to shit on that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've already done that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The shark has been jumped, Jordan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It got jumped.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he ends this episode with an interview.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He should end it with A and some double guns.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which he actually has in studio.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He meant finger guns.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He ends the episode with an interview with a pastor whose name escapes me.
		It doesn't matter.
		It's just about how the Confederacy was pretty cool.
		Oh, no.
		But he does say this, the pastor, and this is where he loses all of his credibility.
chuck baldwin ▲ ● ▼		There has never been a civilization in the history of the world that has officially embraced, promoted, and legitimized the homosexual lifestyle that has survived.
chuck baldwin ▲ ● ▼		That is simply a matter of historical record.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let me actually use a reducto ad absurdium argument against his.
		I will do it in real time.
		No cultures that didn't have Wii, didn't have Nintendo Wii's, have all not survived.
		There we go.
		It's stupid.
		It's pointless.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't mean anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't imply causation between accepting homosexual lifestyles.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why did the Aztecs fade away?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Butt fucking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Didn't have Wii's.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everybody knows this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because Wii's have properties, I got nothing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Yeah, exactly.
		That's just like saying all of the cultures who aren't alive now aren't alive now for any reason.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, but it's gays.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The other thing, too, is like, hey, hey, buddy, there are a lot of civilizations that didn't formally recognize homosexuality, and they don't exist anymore either.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, it's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And, you know, Spartans fucked a lot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In the butt.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep, there was a bit of that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, you understand that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they actually did embrace it pretty heavily.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They had weird ideas about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah.
		Well, it wasn't, yeah, it wasn't like we're in a loving relationship.
		It was like a teaching thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In Athens, it was more teacherly-based.
		Exactly.
		That was more like if you were a teacher and you had a pupil, you could fuck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it was based on respect and that sort of thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't understand that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the Spartans, there was a lot of soldiers fucking each other.
		There was stuff like that.
		And it was more like, we're so manly, we're going to fuck.
		As I recall.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's nothing manlier than fucking another dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As I recall, there's some stuff in Viking history about that, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you get a bunch of dudes together in a small and close enough space.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sooner or later, they're going to fuck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Especially if you're out on a boat forever.
		Yeah, yeah.
		I feel silly bringing the Norse shit into it because I don't really know all that much about it.
		But be that as it may, yeah, I mean, you could pick any hundred things about our modern culture that exists and be like, well, you know, past civilizations didn't have this or did have this.
		It's fucking dumb.
		Anyway, this guy's an asshole.
		So we have a very short way to go to get through the rest of this, the rest of the time, because the last couple episodes in our stretch to July 21st are terrible.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He jumped at the shark and he fucking did not get back up.
		He crashed on that landing.
		The 19th, because the 18th is Saturday, so there's no show.
		19th, he does a Sunday show, and it's mostly about how the British nobility are Nazis.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		About how a picture of the queen when she was young, Heiling Hitler, came out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's been vindicated on everything he's always said.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Man Cow sent him a congratulatory.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For somebody who's always being vindicated, he sure feels the need to say he's being vindicated all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And to do whole shows about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's kind of dumb, and I don't really care.
		I don't really particularly, I'm not all that interested in his feelings about the British nobility.
		You know, they're a mess.
		But we get to the 20th.
		We get to Monday.
		He talks more about British nobility.
		And the show's boring.
		But he does say this.
		There's one clip worth listening to here, and it's this one.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		In high school, we'd go to the beach.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Personal history.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And I think if he separated the boys from the men, almost all the guys would be scared to go skinny dipping with the cheerleaders.
		I shouldn't tell these stories.
		I'd be like, I'm ready to go.
		And of course, the only thing you really had to worry about out in the Gulf of Mexico at night was not so much sharks.
		They're out there, but he got a better chance by being run over by an elephant than bitten by a shark.
		Is the jellyfish.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jellyfish will get you.
		Yep.
		He skinny dipped with the babes.
		And that's what separates the boys from the men.
		Is back then, he wasn't afraid to skinny dip with the ladies.
		So it's his personal history mixed with even dumb masculine ideas.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I believe it's probably true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it's true at all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, not his assessment, but the fact of him skinny dipping with cheerleaders.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I believe that.
unidentified		Maybe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You see those fucking pictures of him from when he was younger?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was swole as fuck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was built like a brick shithouse, this guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was fit when he was younger.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't like the way you're talking about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's very disconcerting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was a bad kid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's very Spartan of you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was a bad kid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know what I'm saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was a bad kid who got into a ton of fights, but also was traditionally attractive.
		So I could see him being one of these bad boys who goes skinny dipping with girls.
		If he's fucking like 150 girls before he's 16.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's not true either.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but we have to live inside his fantasy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I believe he probably did have sex with a couple people before he was 16.
		But be that as it may, unimportant.
		It's more important that Alex is like, this is what bravery is.
		Skinny dipping with girls when you're young.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I skinny dipped.
		I don't give a shit.
		I don't think it was brave of me.
		Anyway, we move on to the July 21st episode where we will end our investigation.
		Again, no more comes up about Trump, so the actual investigation is kind of over.
		But he does get back into this whole episode mostly on the 21st.
		There's two narratives that he's spinning.
		One, we're not going to talk about at all.
		I'll talk about it, but we don't eclipse.
		Alex is furious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is a big new all over again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is furious that they don't let Army recruiters carry guns.
		There's like army recruitment centers, and they don't have arms.
		It's after the Chattanooga shooting where a guy shot some military people.
		And so Alex is extrapolating that.
		And so Joe Biggs is on the scene at just south of Austin Army Recruitment Center with a team of patriots with guns guarding the place.
		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Joe Biggs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		These are LARPers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Basically.
		Yeah.
		So Joe Biggs is out there.
		He does a report.
		His Skype is terrible.
		It breaks up over and over again.
		And he's just like, hey, man, I'm out here.
		Got my guns.
		I'm going to protect these people.
		I have some experience with Army recruiters because I don't know if it's changed.
		I certainly hope it has.
		But when I was in high school, the Army recruiters were in your schools.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, they were in my school, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They were there, and their whole goal was to manipulate you into signing up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They were door-to-door salesmen, basically.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Our guy was super cool because we were kids, and we didn't know any better that he was trying to get us into the Army.
		He would do James Brown impressions.
		He would dance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was awesome.
		He seemed so cool.
		But as you sort of, as time went on, you start to realize, why does he keep asking me what my future plans are?
		Yeah.
		This is weird.
		I had a couple friends who fell for it.
		Ended up signing up.
		I don't think any died.
		Should look into that.
		So I don't care all that much about Army recruiters because it isn't really the benign thing of like, oh, you want to sign up, so you go sign up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, they're salesmen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, there is a manipulative game that they're playing in order to trick people into.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you have commercials for the Navy, like join the Navy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's absurd to think that they don't get bonuses for signing people up.
		It's absurd to think that there isn't quotas that they are supposed to reach.
		So, I mean, they have a vested interest in kids signing away their future.
		So I don't want to talk about that because I don't really give a shit, and it's Joe Biggs heavy.
		But Alex does say one thing that's really funny.
		I wish I would have pulled this quote.
		But he says, Joe Biggs is not a man to make shit up.
		Flash forward to Joe Biggs getting fired for reporting on Pizzagi.
		So the other narrative of the show that takes up most of it is these Planned Parenthood videos.
		He gets back to them and he says some fucking wild stuff about them.
		Here's the first clip.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And when we're not doing it at the Capitol, when there's Christians just praying, trying to ban partial birth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this is about his demon narrative about every time you're at an abortion protest, demons show up.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry, I forgot there was some context needed there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Women in flowery colors, old, young, black, white, Hispanic, mainly white and black, mainly white, actually, start going, Satan!
		I mean, it's interdimensional.
		It's Satanism.
		It's real.
		Something is going on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's in every one of these videos.
		There's wine, caviar, lavish restaurants.
		I love Lamborghinis.
		Dead babies.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then MSNBC's like, it's so liberal.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there we go with more classism.
		But then secondly, he's talking about the Lamborghinis.
		And this is something that's important to bring up.
		It's based on the deceptive editing of the videos.
		There's one lady who's having a conversation with someone about setting up a relationship where this fake research center could get tissue samples.
		Right.
		Every single time that they talk about intact samples, they don't.
		The people making the video want you to believe that what they're talking about is a full baby.
		And that's not what they're talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're talking about like an intact liver or an intact organ, something like that.
		Which is well within the legal situation.
		And that is what they're talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they should use the whole baby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, like the Buffalo.
		Exactly.
		So the other thing is this Lamborghini thing.
		There's a lady talking, and she's clearly talking to the waiter.
		And it's clearly, what do you want?
		I want a Lamborghini.
unidentified		Lame.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it's an old lady.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She's making a lame waiter joke.
		No, no, no.
		I mean the editing of that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think both.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, that's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex tries to make the claim that they're buying Lamborghinis based on these baby monies and stuff like that.
		And I just feel the need to clarify.
		I mean, I watched all these videos today just in preparation, and it's so clear that this is a fucking manipulative cut and that she's not talking to the camera.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So here we go.
unidentified		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Caitlin Jenner.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, we got the Moore Hagra.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She's got her view girl.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's all on it.
		It's crazy.
		These people are demons.
		They just appear and start crawling out of trash cans.
		One guy ran and hid in a dumpster.
		I mean, they're like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He might have been Oscar the Grange.
		That's not really demonic as much as it is Hobo or Sesame Street.
		So I don't.
		Anyway, I don't know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Demons!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Demons!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And when you confront them, they'll actually just basically roll around on the ground like in Christ time saying, We are Legion.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're Legion.
unidentified		You saw the movie scene.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Keanu Reese.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's like wearing the glasses, folks.
		I'm telling you, it's like They Live.
		Maybe I should just settle down and play that six-minute piece that they bring put together from They Live.
		And we had Rowdy Piper on because, you know, I felt like Rowdy Piper was trying to get his buddy to put the glasses on.
		He won't do it.
		He goes, put these glasses on her.
		Start eating concrete, man.
unidentified		Once you see it, there's no going back.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Just take the red pill, people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Another movie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Do you really want to side with ghoul women over 200 bottle red wine?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Classism.
unidentified		Yes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Talking about Lamborghinis from baby part sales.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They sound like a lot of people.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You want that on your conscience.
		I don't even know if I can get the show at this point.
		I just.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, my God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What a douche.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, come on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know why I don't like it when the cops pull me over and give me a ticket?
		It's not that I'm mad they're giving me a ticket for speeding.
		I shouldn't be speeding.
		It's dangerous.
		It's not good.
		I get we got to have some law and work.
		It's that they'll be shot.
		Is there a reason you were speeding 10 miles over the speed limit?
		Like, is there a reason you're not arresting people selling baby parts?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, yeah, because.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because it's not illegal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's not what's happening.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not that they're selling baby parts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're not selling baby parts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so crazy.
		And that whole thing, like, do you want to side with these evil women?
		Like, well, I mean, based on the truth, yes, because they're not evil.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, also, even if they were evil, they sound like a lot of fun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I like Chianti.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I would go to a white wine party.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nice red wine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A Lamborghini?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've never driven one of those.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She doesn't have one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She clearly is telling away that she wants one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We just want a Lamborghini.
		She's aspiring.
		She's got ambition.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is a great moment that, again, I didn't cut this clip just because of time constraints.
		But Alex says, defending Plant Parenthood when these videos come out is going to blow back on you.
		And it's so ironic because he never, well, I don't know.
		I can't say for certain.
		We'll find out as this investigation goes on.
		But I guarantee he never is like, I'm sorry that I reported this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know that it was manipulative.
		I'm still against abortion, which would be the respectable thing to do.
		If he was like, I'm against abortion, I have a principle that even up to the first trimester, I don't think it's okay.
		I believe it's a human.
		If he were to say that, and he's like, I'm sorry, these videos were manipulative.
		It was propaganda.
		I fell for it.
		I'm sorry.
		If he were to say that, I would respect the hell out of it.
		And I'd be like, it's okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think any conservative outlet has said that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Certainly a lot of people in the House and Senate had to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow, that's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When they did investigation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
		They did.
		But I don't think.
		I don't think the news really.
		I don't think the opinion/slash news media for the conservative propaganda machine ever was like, well, guys, we got it wrong.
		And I'm pretty certain that Fox News isn't reporting too much on the trial of those guys.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, much like Hannity is not going to apologize for Seth Richards.
		So he gets into this next clip, is a bit more about the Planned Parenthood stuff.
		But what's important here is the video is a lie.
		The videos that he's talking about are lies.
		Now, he's going to lie about the lie.
		He's going to edit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's going to editorialize and add things that aren't in those videos in order to grow the demonicness of it or the villainy of it.
		So even if he's just reporting on the video, that is reporting on a lie.
		This is lying about a lie.
		That's fascinating to me.
		That's like next-level propaganda.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, when you multiply negative two by negative two, you wind up getting positive four.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That tracks.
unidentified		Yep.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Trendy women lisping, driving brand new Mercedes, drinking 200 bottle red wine, talking and smacking.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And you're like, let me try not to chop them up in too big pieces because we get all the goodies of it.
unidentified		And I start like going, uh, and just kind of thrusting around.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what he sounds like when he fucks.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Like they're Amy Winehouse singing some blues jazz riff, but you're not on stage turning on a bunch of men.
		You're a sick freak talking about baby parts.
		It's not like you're in front of your husband in the bedroom.
		You're talking about dead body parts and they're just wiggling around on their chair.
unidentified		I can't handle it anymore.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm about to throw up.
		Actually, you said throw up my throat.
		I want to wipe my throat.
		Oh, God.
		Like them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is why you're not in a movie.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You understand?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're coming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're a terrible actor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jordan, I'm sorry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have to go back because, look, you're right.
unidentified		You're right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I threw up a little bit in the back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're right to yell.
		But we've got to get a clean take of what happens after he fixes throwing up because it's so funny.
		He's so dumb.
		Like, first of all, the lie on the lie, too, is these women aren't squirming around and acting like they're sexually excited.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I don't know what it is he's fucking talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's trying to weave his narrative that he has built up in the past.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're demons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It turns them on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		People who are pro-abortion have some sort of a sexual thing about killing babies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all nonsense.
		But he's trying to make this lie match up with his pre-existing lie.
		And it doesn't work.
		If you watch the videos, that doesn't match up at all.
		Also, he says that they are driving Lamborghinis.
		The lady says she wants a Lamborghini.
		There's no indication that she has one.
		And who cares if they're drinking wine, you asshole?
		Anyway, here we go.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, real Americans drink Papst.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right, fair enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I kind of agree with that.
unidentified		Oh, I can't handle it anymore.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm about to throw up.
		I actually just had to throw up my throat.
		I want away from these people.
		I don't like them.
		They say our kids belong to them.
		You understand?
		They're coming.
		They're coming for us.
		God, I can't stand them.
		They're dangerous.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're even uncool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're so uncool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're so uncool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So at the end of this show, he has, like I said, he does more of this Joe Big stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He says more bullshit about Planned Parenthood stuff, but I think we've gotten all we're going to get out of that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Then he has the on-air debut of his 12-year-old son, no.
		He does an admirable book report.
		And I don't want to make fun of him again because he's a child.
		No, it was about GMO.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We just, let's move on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm just going to get mad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, I'm just going to get mad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You know, I'm going to get mad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because I have sympathies for him because he doesn't know any better.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he did a great job for a 12-year-old doing a news report.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know people in high school in my broadcast production class that did way worse stories than he did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Under way less pressure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he also had all the InfoWars money and team behind him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure he didn't edit it himself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sure he did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He did a fine job.
unidentified		But also, it's his dad forced him to edit it himself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Really, really fucked up.
unidentified		You won't get your peas until you finish this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's really, really, really fucked up the way Alex does this.
		He has Rex on, and he's talking about how he's going to be even greater than him in the InfoWar.
		And it's really putting a lot of pressure on a 12-year-old.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everything the light touches.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What is 12?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's like fifth, sixth grade.
larry elder ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot of pressure to know about globalists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, well, if your voice hasn't even changed and you're already being primed to fight the globalists, man, you've got a big head start.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex plays his report, and before that, he has him sitting in the studio, and he does the like, you're going to be greater than even me.
		You're a sharp kid.
		I love you so much.
		Calls him sweetheart.
		It's very weird.
		And it's very weird, especially considering he now doesn't have custody.
		But be that as it may.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Again, whether or not he's a good dad, he's a fucking lunatic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Before he intros Rex, he has him sitting there while he does an ad.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Rex is sitting in the.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, Rex is sitting there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's why you had me write Super Male Vitality down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I did.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Rex is sitting there looking over at his dad selling boner medications.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not quite the way you think it's going to go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you did get it, that it has to do with super vitality.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is he going to say something like, that's how we got you, Rex?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because if he does, that's going to creep me out a lot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because that I don't think I would have cut out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that would be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He would have let that one in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, this actually put the mic down because this accidentally might be the most progressive Alex Jones has ever been, which is really just a sell product.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to give you a little news flash.
		The only thing different about Super Female Vitality is it has frisky goatweed.
		It has a different name.
		Horny goatweed.
		It's got a scientific name.
		And it's more of an aphrodisiac.
		It has all the same stuff the male stuff has in it.
		And it does some other things to your body, not just the libido.
		But it's super female, quite frankly, is the formula I like best, even more than super male.
		But group debates that with me.
		It's different for everybody.
		And they go, Alex is not too good if you say you take female vitality on air.
		Whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whoa, Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Welcome to the party.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's like...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't matter if I take male or female super male.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's all bullshit anyway.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We gendered these herbs.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know why we didn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's no point in doing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he could learn a lesson from that.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he could.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe he could stop calling them male and female and instead let them choose what they want to be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These horny herbs.
		It's got horny goatweed in it.
		I sell supplements on my website that you could buy in a truck stop bathroom.
		It's the only place I've seen fucking horny goatweed sold out of those condom dispensers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It'll get you going.
		That's why they call it horny goatweed.
		Get it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I guess so.
		Anyway, that brings us to the end of July 21st, and thus the end of our part four of our investigation of what happened to Alex Jones.
		So far, we see little evolution in his feelings towards Donald Trump, except to say that maybe someone told me that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He loves some bigotry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He does love that, and maybe someone told him to stop talking about his mob ties.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't speculate about that earlier, but I might as well hear the end.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The stuff that he was saying about Trump before this was basically vague accusations of crimes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there's a decent chance someone was like, dude, you've got to stop that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In not necessarily in nefarious ways, but just like, possibly in nefarious ways.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It could be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it could also just be somebody being like, hey, that is something you could be sued for.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We know his lawyers aren't that good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he might have had someone who touched him and was like, hey, you got to calm down on that.
		So he decided he's not going to attack Trump anymore.
		But even in that speech, he still says he doesn't trust him and thinks he's going to betray everyone.
		So there's no evolution for the rest of the time.
unidentified		But fuck was that shark jumping fun?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was insanity.
		That was complete nonsense.
		And then beyond that, what else do we have?
		Oh, Alex is an idiot and he believes propaganda about Planned Parenthood.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just love the abortion protesters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He literally, and not in a figurative way, like he described Hillary Clinton as a demon and smells like sulfur as a way of describing all of this stuff.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Flies land on it.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's literally saying it is something interdimensional.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that at these abortion protests, they fucking appear out of the ground, and if you confront them, they will contort on the ground saying, we are Legion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		And they are Legion, and he's sick of them.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Makes him throw up a little bit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I just throw up my mouth a little bit.
unidentified		Ba.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was so terrible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was real bad.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was really bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's one of the.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's got to take an acting class.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's one of the few times that I've been listening to the show, and I legitimately blurt laugh.
		You asshole.
		You are such an asshole.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was like, come on, man.
		Use sense memory.
		Use something.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Take an acting class.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So if you'd like to, you can find us on the internet.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		At knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Correct.
		And we'll be back soon with another installment of this investigation.
		Hope it picks up.
		We are getting close to August where the first debate happens.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we'll see.
		Again, Roger Stone has not shown up yet.
		Steve Pieczenik is not there.
		I actually want to make this clear.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I remember that on our last episode, we didn't spell this out enough.
		We danced around it a little bit.
		And let me see if I can find the best way to say this.
		Alex needs to be lied to in order to get on board with Trump, whole hog, because of the things he knows about him and the lack of trust.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He knows about these connections that he has to mobs.
		He knows about Russia connections, X, Y, and Z.
		So in order for him to get on board, what we said is he needs another compelling thing, which we speculated would be this culture war stuff.
		I regret that I didn't point out that that's Steve Pieczenik's role in the whole con.
		Steve Pieczenik is there to give the Russia didn't hack this stuff.
		It was patriots within our government.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Steve Pieczenik is there functionally as the cover for the lies that Roger Stone is going to tell him.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what I think.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's probably more likely it's just bigotry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Boy, everything could be nefarious, but it could also just be bigotry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The reason that I think it has to be nefarious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The entirety of American history.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		True.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The reason I think it has to be nefarious, though, is it's such a wild coincidence that all of these people would change their mind in exactly the same way at exactly the same time.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But anyway, we'll find out on that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Trump did unite us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's a uniter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, he united them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll just throw open my mouth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that was pretty good.
		I believed it.
		You can also follow us on Twitter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't want to throw up in your mouth, check out our Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look us up on iTunes reviews.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's nice.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Send us more emails that are really filled with positive things about Dan and just hateful shit about me.
		I read it, Brian.
		I know what's up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, boy.
		So, yeah, and beyond that, if you'd like to donate to the show, if you'd like to become a policy wonk, you can.
		There's a button on knowledgefight.com that says support the show.
		You can check that out.
		Give us money.
unidentified		Yes, please.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Other than that, I don't know, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The fourth hour is back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which means Rap Apart still lives.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Alex.
unidentified		I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified		I'm a huge fan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.

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