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June 9, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#51: June 6, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on The Alex Jones Show on June 6. Topics include: Is Alex trying to show off for Megyn Kelly's camera crew? Are campuses throwing "No Whites Days?" What happens when a Hulkster goes to heaven? What is Alex's weapon of choice?

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a
alex jones
23:22
d
dan friesen
53:27
j
jordan holmes
30:46
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hillary clinton
00:30
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple of dudes who like to sit around, drink novelty beverages, and have a talk about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
That is correct.
There is a twist to this conversation, though.
One that, frankly, I think cannot be played down.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is a spectacular twist.
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
Are you talking about the twist of this beverage?
That it's blueberry and watermelon?
jordan holmes
It's blueberry watermelon!
dan friesen
That's not the twist.
jordan holmes
That's not the twist.
Is the twist taking the cap off?
dan friesen
Oh, that's not bad.
jordan holmes
There we go!
We got one!
dan friesen
It's crystal light.
unidentified
We got one!
dan friesen
As predicted, it tastes a lot like crystal light.
alex jones
Damn it!
dan friesen
The twist of this show is that I know a lot about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
And I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
And therein we find our fun.
Today we're going to be going over basically the first hour of the Tuesday, June 6th, 2017 episode of The Alex Jones Show.
So when this comes out, this will be yesterday's show.
But to get us going, I'd like to play an out-of-context drop that's very funny in hindsight of Alex Jones from 2015.
alex jones
I'm up here.
I'm saying the things I say every day.
And, knock on wood, I've never been sued, except for a copyright thing that got thrown out, for defamation.
Never been sued for any of that because I watch what I say.
unidentified
It may sound wild, but it's there.
dan friesen
Pretty good in hindsight after the repeated lawsuits he's been.
jordan holmes
God damn it, I needed that.
That made my day so much better.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
It has been an absolutely unending shit show of a day.
dan friesen
Let me make your day even better.
I'd like to give a shout out to our new donator.
What's up, Keegan?
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you for joining up and becoming a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Hey, Keegan, welcome to The Fold.
dan friesen
If you would like to become a policy wonk, you may do so by going to our website, knowledgefight.com, clicking on the support the show button, and donating.
jordan holmes
It's a good one.
I mean the button in specific.
It's a solid button.
dan friesen
I don't want to do this show anymore.
jordan holmes
Okay, fair enough.
That's an aggressive start.
dan friesen
Alex Jones has been bumming me out.
I am in the doldrums, and my enthusiasm to listen to this dumbass man yell has been waning.
And I don't know, I'm in a bad place.
jordan holmes
Well, you're at, what, six full months now of listening to Alex Jones every single day?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Man, the kind of psychic toll that must take on you.
dan friesen
It's rough.
I think we might be done.
I think this is over.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Well, maybe.
I just need something to rejuvenate me.
I just need something.
jordan holmes
What could rejuvenate you?
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
Had a dream high, had a baby.
Now there's nothing jacking up, yeah.
dan friesen
All right, I'm back.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I was actually genuinely a little bit concerned there.
Like, we've had some off-air conversations.
You are getting affected by this.
unidentified
And then I was like, oh, why would he spring this on me on air?
dan friesen
That was my elaborate setup to play Sasha Banks' theme song again on the show.
jordan holmes
You murdered me.
You nailed it.
You won.
You won.
dan friesen
That said, those...
jordan holmes
Dan, I need to quit the show.
dan friesen
Now you're going to play...
Come up with another wrestler.
Shinsuke Nakamura's theme song.
jordan holmes
Are you kidding me?
Do you know what I'm going to play?
Some Rick fucking Derringer.
unidentified
That's what I'm going to play right about now.
dan friesen
What sucks is Hulk Hogan had a whole album and that's not even the best song on it.
There's a song called A Hulkster Goes to Heaven.
Have you ever heard that song?
jordan holmes
Nope, nope.
I don't.
End right there.
dan friesen
It's about this little kid who was a big Hulk Hogan fan who died.
And it's Hulk Hogan singing about how he heard that he died, and that the two of them, they'll tag up when the Hulkster goes to heaven.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Hulk Hogan actually sings.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
Do you want to hear it?
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
I think you've got to hear it.
jordan holmes
Of course I want to hear it, but I also want to...
Oh, God.
It's basically just tears in heaven, but for a Hulkamaniac, isn't it?
dan friesen
Oh, no.
It's way worse.
Strap it in, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Strapping in.
This is already the worst song I've ever heard in my entire life.
dan friesen
Wait till the vocals kick in.
unidentified
I read it in the papers.
I saw it on TV.
I guess it'll be an empty seat.
When I wrestle it, when we leave.
jordan holmes
That's not Hulk Hogan.
That's Hulk Hogan?
That's not Hulk Hogan.
That's not his voice.
unidentified
He can't sing.
dan friesen
This isn't a good singer.
jordan holmes
It's not as bad as I thought it would have been.
unidentified
Dan, what are we doing?
jordan holmes
What have we become?
dan friesen
This is how desperately I don't want to talk about Alex Johnson.
So there's a little kid that dies.
jordan holmes
Yes, I got the central conceit.
dan friesen
Okay.
Now let's get to the actual show.
Guys, the reason I don't want to talk about Alex Johnson is because he's...
I've come to a little bit of a thing.
I've been telling Jordan off air.
I'm getting to the point where we can poke holes in and bring reality to any bullshit that he spins.
And it doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter in the end.
Kind of.
I hate to quote Linkin Park, but I tried so hard and got so far.
jordan holmes
You've got...
You've got a barrage of terrible music in my face already today.
dan friesen
Speaking of which, Carly Rae Jepsen has a new single out there.
jordan holmes
Alright, alright.
Now we're getting into trouble.
dan friesen
See, this is how I do my self-care.
Dealing with listening to Alex Jones all the time, I also crank a lot of Carly Rae Jepsen.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Gotta balance it out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that makes sense.
dan friesen
And I just become sort of frustrated with the futility of it, and it's delusional of me to think that reality would.
Puncture the bubbles of propaganda, but it's just a little frustrating.
Anyway, today's show...
jordan holmes
Well, Dan, before we go any further, I'd like to remind you that in the end, nothing matters.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
We are all specks of dust floating through space.
There is no God, and we are left to find meaning betwixt our own ears.
dan friesen
We are but on our way to death.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And in that spirit, let's get back into Jones.
jordan holmes
And once we shuffle off this mortal coil, Will Shakespeare.
dan friesen
Will Shakespeare.
jordan holmes
Will Shakespeare.
dan friesen
So today on the show, we're covering the 6th.
And something interesting happened on the 6th.
And it actually hasn't happened by the time that Alex is on air.
And that is that Megyn Kelly is in town.
Megyn Kelly is at Alex Jones' studio.
To do an interview.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Alex Jones agreed to do an interview with Megyn Kelly, which we've referenced in the past.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
This is the day.
jordan holmes
This is the day.
dan friesen
She has just interviewed Vladimir Putin.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And apparently, as Alex Jones tells it, her next interview is Trump.
Alex Jones thinks it's great.
That he's in that company.
Not realizing a certain thread between the three men.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's something connecting them.
Some sort of line segment.
dan friesen
There's a reason that Megyn Kelly is choosing these first three interviews.
And it might be a series on what went wrong with our country.
Alex Jones thinks, oh, I mean, Putin, he's a big, strong manly man.
He's kicked out the globalists.
Donald Trump is...
In charge of the new renaissance or whatever the fuck he says.
jordan holmes
Oh, sweet Jesus.
dan friesen
So I'm the part of it.
Not realizing that, no, the part you're playing is you're echoing and amplifying Russian propaganda that enabled Trump to get elected.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So you do belong in this conversation, just not for the reasons you think.
jordan holmes
You are the shittiest stooge.
dan friesen
Yeah, you're shemp.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So in this episode, Megyn Kelly isn't there yet, but her team is there.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
Her crew is in the Infowars studio while he's doing the show.
jordan holmes
While they're recording it?
dan friesen
They're clearly getting B-roll and stuff like that, so they're recording him too.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So there's an interesting dynamic that happens that really...
Really proves some of the star fuckery qualities and sellout dumbass qualities we've discussed about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Does he turn it up or turn it down?
dan friesen
Through the roof.
jordan holmes
Through the roof.
dan friesen
He is acting his ass off.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This show is going to be a little bit different because I couldn't really cut clips.
I just have a bunch of rants.
The spirit is in him, and he is showing off for Megyn Kelly's crew the entire time.
It is fucking bananas.
I had to turn it off a little bit after the first hour was over, and I'll explain why when we get there.
But for now, let's get going into this.
The first clip that we have on this here episode is...
Alex, our first clip is a shorter clip, just to kick it off before we get into the massive rants.
This one is just a bad comparison about the mainstream media.
alex jones
But it's okay, because it has nothing to do with Islam and nothing to do with jihad.
And if you say Islam has anything to do with jihad, or that jihad is even the Koran, you're fake news.
So says the same MSN that tells us Obamacare is going to be free, you didn't build your own business.
And that Hillary Clinton doesn't look like a cross between a lot lizard and some type of overcooked pizza.
jordan holmes
Wait.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
Wait, those...
Alright.
dan friesen
So his initial point is people think that terrorism has nothing to do with his lot.
jordan holmes
So people who say...
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That Hillary Clinton does not look like a mix between a lot lizard and a pizza.
dan friesen
An overcooked pizza.
jordan holmes
Overcooked pizza.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Well, I apologize.
Never mind.
He is correct.
dan friesen
Point of order.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
I don't know.
unidentified
Why?
jordan holmes
Where does that even come in the...
dan friesen
I don't know.
The reason that I kept that clip is because Alex has this fundamental misunderstanding about what people are saying when they say that the acts of terrorism that go on aren't really about Islam.
They're about more political statements and things like that.
jordan holmes
And the fact that we bombed the shit out of their countries.
dan friesen
For decades.
jordan holmes
For decades!
dan friesen
That's really what people are saying when they say that this doesn't have to do with Islam.
He doesn't understand that.
He thinks that people are saying that these aren't Muslim people or something like that.
I think that's what he believes.
But in his saying, hey, if you say that it has something to do with Islam, they say you're fake news.
But these are the same people who said you didn't build your business.
jordan holmes
Again, we've gone over a hundred fucking times.
dan friesen
People didn't say that Obama said that Obamacare was free.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
There's discussions about how tax credits would be available, tax subsidies, that would offset a lot of it.
It's fucking nonsense.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
But, does Hillary Clinton look like a mix between a lot lizard and a...
Overcooked pizza.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That's the one that confused me quite a bit there.
dan friesen
My brain has a tough time making that mix.
That chimera, if you will.
unidentified
What is that?
I don't know what he's seeing.
jordan holmes
The other lies, that's fine.
That's Alex.
We're not going to beat that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I just want to know what it is he sees.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I think if I had to guess, I would say he started a metaphor and started a mix comparison, and then he just lost it.
He just was like...
jordan holmes
His brain just stroked out.
dan friesen
Pizza.
jordan holmes
Hillary Clinton looks like a I want a sandwich.
dan friesen
Just wee hungry.
Something along those lines, if I had to guess.
But who cares?
That's our short clip.
Now let's get into the real business.
This next clip starts with him explaining that Hillary is guilty.
She's guilty!
jordan holmes
Guilty of what?
dan friesen
Overcooked pizzas.
jordan holmes
Oh, well that is a crime in many Italian states.
dan friesen
She's guilty, and this clip transitions smoothly into Alex Jones airing some of his grievances about Megyn Kelly to her crew.
alex jones
So she is guilty of helping create ISIS and funding it, and she's guilty of murdering children.
And Megyn Kelly on Fox News sat there and played the clip with the front and the back chopped off of the same two-minute clip, or minute-and-a-half clip, to where I said she was in a basement, Hillary murdering children in a pizza place.
Then they take a little correction I do on other people's reporting.
And then say that I was correcting myself on that.
That's how you produce fake news.
And when I asked Megyn Kelly about it a few weeks ago on the phone, the conversation was off the record.
She just said, I don't remember that.
jordan holmes
You're bad at this!
alex jones
I don't remember that.
So today, when she's here, it won't be on film, certainly they don't want that, but I'm going to sit there, because that's part of the condition of her coming here, and I'm going to show her right when we watch.
That was hating me and attacking me, but at least they admitted it was a tongue-in-cheek piece I did.
And then we're going to show her what her producers did.
Because that is fake news right there.
So I want to know if she stands for that.
In fact, here's a video since her crew is here.
Let's punch the video up on screen for TV viewers.
You can pull up the article.
Exclusive Megyn Kelly fabricating lies about Alex Jones.
And I don't hate Megyn Kelly.
I used to like her when she was there reading the news on Fox News or whatever.
When she became purely political, What did you say about her appearance, Alex?
And then when she had her producers do that to me, I really got upset.
That's why I'm going to break down and cry right now.
unidentified
Ooh.
alex jones
Be sarcastic.
unidentified
I actually need to wet my throat a bit here.
dan friesen
Gross.
jordan holmes
What is happening there?
dan friesen
You had a dry throat.
jordan holmes
I do not.
dan friesen
So, he's really, really hung up still on this thing from Megyn Kelly's show that had to do with Pizzagate.
In fairness to him, they did cut the clip a bit.
jordan holmes
As we have played in the past, though.
In fairness to them, go fuck yourself, Alex.
dan friesen
In fairness to Megyn Kelly and her producer, that clip, he was talking about Pizzagate.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Now, when he said that Hillary Clinton is personally responsible for killing and raping children, he was talking about in the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Not necessarily in a basement of a pizza place that doesn't have a basement.
But they were only guilty by omission.
jordan holmes
She does bear some of the responsibility for the drone strikes that have murdered, what, thousands of children at this point.
dan friesen
Sure, and so does Trump now.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Oh, man, and he has gotten so much worse.
They haven't even pretended to care about war crimes anymore.
It's just, hey, 100 killed here, 100 kids there, doesn't even fucking matter.
It's bananas.
dan friesen
The situation that's developing in Qatar right now...
It really makes me worried that my fears about Iran are coming true.
jordan holmes
And not only that, but the reports now just say that they think there's evidence of Russians planting a story in there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That spread lies about the relationship between, oh, we're fucked.
dan friesen
Yeah, who knows?
jordan holmes
How are we not rioting in the fucking streets right now?
My mind is boggled.
I go to work in the morning and I'm just sitting there looking at people going like, do you not really?
Otherwise the world is falling apart around you!
dan friesen
Yeah, I'll have my boss come up to me and be like, hey, what's going on with this account?
They're a little overdue.
I'm like, we're all gonna die!
Do you not understand?
I have to listen to Alex Jones so I can fight back a little bit.
That's where my headspace is.
So Alex Jones is, I mean, all that stuff aside, he's got other issues on his mind.
He still wants to talk a little bit more about Hillary Clinton.
And apparently, Paul Joseph Watson has written a very insightful article about Hillary Clinton that we're going to editorialize a little bit on here.
Alex is going to talk about it.
jordan holmes
You just said all those words, and I don't believe any of them are usable in the same sentence.
unidentified
Alex?
jordan holmes
Paul Joseph Watson and the word insightful?
No, thank you.
dan friesen
I might have been facetious.
jordan holmes
Refuse.
dan friesen
Might have been a little bit glib there.
unidentified
Uh-uh.
jordan holmes
Uh-uh.
dan friesen
So, Alex is- J 'accuse!
J'suis guilty.
So Alex is going to talk a little bit about this article.
Then he's going to play the audio of Hillary Clinton and what the article is based on.
It's based on this audio clip.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And we're going to see if they're really getting into the substance of what she said.
Also, I'd like to apologize.
You may have noticed already the audio of these clips is a little bit bad.
The source that I cut the clips from, I don't know what happened.
They just had fucked up audio today.
jordan holmes
Those bastards.
dan friesen
Sorry about that.
jordan holmes
Get on it, assholes!
alex jones
But first off, let's get to Hillary Clinton since we've been talking about this vicious, evil, true wicked witch.
I mean, the lady in Wizard of Oz disappearing into a cloud of green smoke has nothing on Hillary and her consortium of flying monkeys.
jordan holmes
She's imaginary.
alex jones
So here is Hillary Clinton.
The story's up on Infowars.com.
dan friesen
Also, I was just thinking, like, with our investigation back to 2015 when he's talking about Trump's mob ties.
Maybe don't use consortium as a word anymore.
unidentified
Really makes me remember what you said about Trump.
dan friesen
Maybe.
I mean, it's just a thought.
Anyway, there's an article on Infowars.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
It's a Paul Joseph Watson article.
Hillary, way to stop terrorism is to understand other cultures and their food.
Yes!
hillary clinton
This is a time for us to reach out to the world, to understand more about...
What is happening, not just in our own country, but indeed across the globe.
It's a time for steady, determined leadership, like we are seeing from local authorities in London, including the mayor of London.
And it is a time to remember how important our alliances are.
unidentified
You heard from Victor.
You heard from Maya.
You heard from the congressman getting to know one another, learning about the experiences, the lives, the cultures, the religions, the food.
jordan holmes
Ha ha ha ha!
unidentified
*Gasp*
alex jones
So if you're just nice to Islam...
dan friesen
He then goes into a rant about how bad it would be if you moved to Somalia, basically.
So I just cut that part out because it's irrelevant.
But just like after that clip, which makes some good points, and also talks about understanding other people's cultures, their religion, recognizing how important alliances are, all these sorts of things.
Those are all really good points, but he just cuts it off after the food part.
jordan holmes
Do you know what's even crazier about that?
The food is something that actually is very good at bringing cultures together.
dan friesen
Sure.
Ritualized meals.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, not just that, but...
Down the block.
An Ethiopian restaurant.
I don't know shit about Ethiopia.
dan friesen
That's where coffee was invented.
jordan holmes
Sure!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Sure!
I know they got good food.
Maybe I'm going to learn more about Ethiopians.
Or at the very least, I'm going to see something so similar in their lives as mine.
Something that is just very basic.
That we're all fucking people and that we all create these things in order to fucking feed ourselves for no good reason.
We could just eat...
Goddamn fucking berries on the ground.
But we're human beings.
They make food the same fucking way, with the same ritual, with the same belief that this food is something valuable to them.
And if you treat that with value, you are in the same way treating their culture with value.
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha ha ha!
dan friesen
Jordan's so dumb.
unidentified
Good point.
jordan holmes
Good point, Alex.
Good point.
dan friesen
Why don't you move to Ethiopia?
jordan holmes
I...
dan friesen
So, there we go.
unidentified
I mean...
jordan holmes
It's probably safer than America in about five years?
dan friesen
We just did a sketch of exactly a good point and then a rank dismissal with nothing really behind it.
Yeah, why be a dick like that?
I do understand the idea of being afraid of terrorism.
I get it.
I just don't think it's smart.
I think it's dumb.
I think it's cowardly.
I think that...
When you have terrorist attacks...
Like, there have been numerous clips that have been flying around of people being like...
Like, people in London being like, I don't care.
I'm gonna keep doing the things I've been doing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I don't...
Like, that's the response you should have.
Terrorists want to scare you.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And if you are scared and you turn things into a holy war, you're being an idiot.
You're playing into their game.
jordan holmes
Like our most likely next prime minister of...
Fucking Britain who just said today that if pesky human rights laws get in the way of protecting people, we're going to get rid of those human rights laws.
Like, what the fuck are you doing, you idiot?
dan friesen
Or clamping down on the internet, even, she said.
jordan holmes
It's insane.
dan friesen
I mean, we should have learned our lesson with the Patriot Act.
We didn't.
jordan holmes
Did not.
Not even close.
dan friesen
Should have learned our lesson with all the subsequent things after it.
jordan holmes
Probably the Iraq War would have helped.
dan friesen
Could have helped.
jordan holmes
That one could have learned a lesson, did we?
Nah.
Nah!
Fake news!
dan friesen
Fake news.
I don't know.
I mean, it's just a macrocosm of the idea that rehabilitation is almost always more effective and cheaper than incarceration.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
For people, to an extent.
There are some crimes you've got to lock people up for.
jordan holmes
If you're a sociopathic serial killer, which, fucking, what are you going to do?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, serial rapists, serial killers, like all of these guys, that...
Is something that you can't rehabilitate?
dan friesen
It's debatable, but it looks bad.
It looks like it doesn't work.
jordan holmes
No.
But if you are somebody who's taken in by any number of different...
How many times has the FBI just blatantly committed entrapment just because they wanted to get somebody to do something?
dan friesen
Most terrorism arrests.
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Who would have guessed?
We're making progress on the terrorist front by creating terrorists and then getting them.
dan friesen
Yeah, so speaking of all that, this next clip is a long, dumb, Islamophobic rant.
But again, I really want to stress that he's performing for Megyn Kelly's crew that's there.
It's clear that he wants some of this to go in the interview.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's super clear because he's hitting a lot of his go-tos.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He's hitting a lot of his base points because he thinks maybe this will go out on NBC.
jordan holmes
Right.
It's not going to go out on NBC.
dan friesen
Probably not.
unidentified
Alex.
jordan holmes
Alex.
Baby.
No.
dan friesen
But I also think he might be trying to bait them into taking something he says out of context.
Because he says a lot of really awful shit.
Of course he does.
So I think there's a certain part of him that is preparing.
He's like, I'm going to take an L on this interview.
There's no way I'm coming out looking good.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So he's like, I'm going to try and do things intentionally over the top so later I can argue that they tried to make me look like a lunatic.
By only using these crazy things I said.
I think that might be his game plan.
In much the same way, we should fucking address this, because this makes me furious.
This is part of why I feel like all hope is lost.
So, on our last episode, we talked about Paul Joseph Watson announcing that he eats books.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Hope he dies.
dan friesen
That was before he had come out and said...
Haha, I tricked you.
I don't eat books.
And you guys reported it.
jordan holmes
Alright, well somebody feed him books now.
dan friesen
Well, but here's the thing.
jordan holmes
Hold him down and shove paper in his mouth.
dan friesen
Here's the thing.
Our response was, we don't care.
We have empathic feelings towards even this horrible person for his mental health issues.
That was our response.
And I don't take that back even though he was lying.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I stand by that 100%.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But here's the thing.
He said, haha.
You guys reported this.
You're fake news.
The thing that's important is they reported that because he told them that.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So he's like, you didn't even look into it.
You just reported it without looking into it.
unidentified
You told them that.
dan friesen
And...
jordan holmes
What other thing can you look into?
dan friesen
The initial article about it said Infowars is known for lying to get attention.
And trying to make...
So they even, in their initial article, said this might not be true because they fuck around with people.
jordan holmes
Because he's a fucking liar.
dan friesen
Right.
And then his response to them insinuating that is, how dare you make fun of my mental illness?
So they were right.
He pretended, oh no, I am serious, which is insulting to people with legitimate mental illnesses.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Chalk that up to another score on the go fuck yourself and die, Paul Joseph Watson.
dan friesen
Now, if we want to go even further, not six months ago, Paul Joseph Watson reported an article on Infowars about how there were tapes of Trump saying the N-word during the Apprentice tapings that were about to be released.
He reported this based on a guy who made a troll Twitter account private messaging him and claiming...
To be someone who worked high level in television.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He took Twitter messages with no proof and reported on it.
He did a worse version of what he's accusing these people of doing now based on things that he told them!
Drives me fucking nuts.
unidentified
Is there?
dan friesen
And he's so fucking snarky and glib that he's like, ha ha, I gotcha, ha ha.
And he has an echo chamber that will just be like, yeah, you got him.
Fucking, you took it to the fake news.
MSM, you suck.
And that cycle is unbreakable.
It's just, there's nothing we can do.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
It's infuriating.
jordan holmes
That's just mind-bogglingly stupid, though.
Like, that...
How did we lose?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
It's just...
Like, I want...
I genuinely want now...
For it to have been Russia completely stole the election.
Because then at least I would feel like, well, we lost to a weird, evil billionaire supervillain.
dan friesen
Well, part of it...
jordan holmes
Instead of the dumbest people on the fucking planet right now.
dan friesen
Well, one of the things I'm starting to realize is that one of the most important pieces, I think, to Trump winning, and to Alex Jones' conversion into what he is, is the introduction of people like Mike Cernovich and Rebel Media.
These prankster asshole troll alt-right people.
They are the ones who brought this influence of like, ha ha, publicity stunts, trolling the media, that sort of thing.
jordan holmes
Cernovich's fourth dimensional journalism or whatever the fuck he calls it.
dan friesen
Immersive bullshit.
jordan holmes
Lying in public.
dan friesen
Become the story.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That sort of thing I think is really what is almost impossible to deal with because most humans...
Really have the instinct to give people the benefit of the doubt.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And just assume that people aren't lying.
And they're all lying.
jordan holmes
Fools.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Fools!
jordan holmes
Never trust anything.
Everything is fake news.
Have no faith in the justice system.
End countries!
Burn it all to the ground!
You know, that's actually the thing that whenever...
This is the thing that I think people should just constantly be pointing out is Bannon even said it.
The real goal is the destruction of all of our institutions.
That is what they're doing.
It is not like anything they're doing is in service to any other ideology than burn it all down.
dan friesen
Because he believes that culture is cyclical and we're heading into what needs to be the next destruction in order to rebuild.
And what are you going to rebuild other than a white nationalist state?
That is what the fucking stated objective of these assholes is.
Even Trump has said shit like that.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Like, he said stuff...
I mean, take away the we should kill terrorists families, which he's following through on.
jordan holmes
He's definitely doing that shit.
dan friesen
Take away how he said...
jordan holmes
Can we stop...
He's fucking killing families.
Yeah.
Because he thinks that that kind of scorched earth bullshit is the way to go.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's how you get peace, right?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Starting endless fucking wars that cannot...
Yeah.
Like, it's like, we're living in the Hatfield and the McCoys.
Like, that's what's going on here.
Anyways, keep going.
dan friesen
I don't have anywhere left to go.
It's just bad.
It's all just so bad.
Anyway, let's get to this dumb Islamophobic rant.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because Alex is fucking stupid.
alex jones
How dare President Trump block flights of people with Somali passports to the U.S.?
Of course, they're known to be terrorists.
They're known...
jordan holmes
They're not.
alex jones
They're known to support terrorism and piracy against everybody.
And that's okay.
We've got to let those people in unvetted.
And I think the president's wrong.
I think we should actually import Somali pirates to, say, Galveston Bay and just let them rob and murder and kill there, too, because that's their culture.
And all cultures are equal.
dan friesen
So a couple of important things to point out.
jordan holmes
That's definitely like a, oh, take me out of context.
Do it.
Take me out of context, baby.
dan friesen
A couple of things that are important to point out are that the Somali government has done a lot of efforts towards stopping the piracy.
And they did an incredibly great job.
It is just resurgent lately a little bit.
But they did a great job of knocking it out from when it was a crisis a couple years back.
jordan holmes
Oh, really?
unidentified
I didn't know that.
dan friesen
Like five, ten years ago, it was a disaster.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But now, it's popping back up a little bit, but it's not nearly as bad as it was back then.
Also, Alex has this thing about, and I think he's going to scream about it a little bit more later, about how the caliphate and the imams give out Saudi Arabian passports.
Sure.
Not Saudi Arabian, Somalian passports.
They don't.
The passports are regulated by the federal government.
They have biometric passports to ensure authenticity.
And everything is on the up and up.
jordan holmes
Because of fucking course it is.
dan friesen
In the same way that you can get false credentials now, like in America, you can get false documents.
You can get them in any country.
And if Alex is taking issue with the fact that some people have fake passports, I mean, bro, you've got a global problem to deal with there.
And I don't think it's one you really know how to solve.
You're just picking and choosing the countries that your boy, you know, was against.
jordan holmes
He's never been my boy.
dan friesen
Oh, excuse me.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
Wait, that was 2015, Alex Jones.
Apologies.
Apologies.
dan friesen
So the idea that there is no vetting is stupid.
The idea that the imams give out passports is stupid.
The idea that somehow every Somali person is a pirate is fucking stupid.
jordan holmes
But fun.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Well...
dan friesen
I mean, we all love Johnny Depp.
jordan holmes
It would be a weird...
It would be a more fun world if there was just an entire country of pirates.
Sure.
Like, just this fun, like, random-ass country of, like...
It's like a magical fantasy world where they somehow have a government...
dan friesen
We end up living in that Assassin's Creed game.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly!
dan friesen
Sure!
jordan holmes
Fucking why not?
This sounds fun.
dan friesen
Another fucking Assassin's Creed reference.
That means we gotta go back to the clip.
alex jones
I think we should get in a time machine, bring back the Aztecs, and just let them set up in our neighborhoods, grab our kids out of backyards, and chop their hearts out.
Of course, I'm being sarcastic, but that's how crazy this is.
The Nazis were an evil culture.
We don't need to accept it.
The Aztecs were an evil culture by the time they collapsed.
We can look at cultures that are bad and say, this isn't good.
And currently, the Orthodox Islam that is the...
Exploding ideology and political and religious system on the planet today is going through its reformation.
This is Islam's reformation, getting back to the roots of robbing the caravans there at Mecca 1,500 years ago, 1,400 years ago.
The slave trade, coming out of the slave trade, there at the Four Corners, there at the crossroads of the caravans, of the spice.
Road, of the Silk Roads, where you grab the women, you sell the children, you have the slave pitch, you rob your neighbors, you do this.
Women are not humans.
You can do what you want with them.
unidentified
The Quran says black people aren't humans.
alex jones
And then by the time the liberal media turns it around, black folks run out and convert to Islam, because that's what you do, because the Muslims started the modern global slave trade 1,400 years ago.
The West, England that ended global slavery, except in a few Islamic countries today, it gets the blame.
And America gets the blame.
The West gets the blame.
The Republicans that passed the Civil Rights Act, they get the blame.
The Democrats that are the KKK party, they are the people that fight the racism.
Arnold Schwarzenegger says he lost Hitler.
He gets ADL awards.
I say I hate Hitler.
I'm attacked by the ADL.
Upside down world.
dan friesen
Upside down, inside out.
So, where do you want to start?
Do you want to start that he thinks that the modern slave trade started 1400 years ago?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know how modern that is.
jordan holmes
No, didn't you know that?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Modern slave trade.
dan friesen
680?
jordan holmes
Modern slave trade!
unidentified
Right, very modern.
Modern slave trade!
jordan holmes
Started 600 years ago!
unidentified
Black people are becoming Muslims because they started the slave trade!
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Also, the Quran saying that black people aren't human.
I mean, I don't know if that's specifically in there, but I do know that it's also in the Mormon Bible.
I know literally that that's in the Mormon Bible.
Do you want to throw that around?
jordan holmes
Did the Mormons start the modern slave trade?
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
See, there we go.
dan friesen
I don't think they were around 1,400 years ago.
jordan holmes
Well.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
jordan holmes
Point proven.
dan friesen
Was Joseph Smith 1,400 years ago?
jordan holmes
No, but Jesus was.
unidentified
Thank you.
jordan holmes
According to Joseph Smith.
dan friesen
Not 1,400.
jordan holmes
No, you're right.
He came to...
When did he come to America?
I don't know.
Like immediately after he got crucified?
Yeah.
He got a red eye flight.
dan friesen
He got a fake Somali passport.
Came on over.
jordan holmes
Came on over and he was like, hey.
White people good.
Black people bad.
dan friesen
They're great.
Stupid mud people.
jordan holmes
Mormons!
dan friesen
So, I mean, let's also just take a nice moment to revel in the this is the reformation of Islam.
That idea is very insulting.
Considering the percentages, that's so hateful and fear-based.
You know, like, considering the number of people who are extremist, Within the Muslim population.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The ratio is probably, I would say, smaller than anti-abortion activists in the Christian community.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I would say the ratio of violent Christians is far higher than the ratio of violent Muslims.
dan friesen
I think that maybe the violent Muslim terrorists have more theatricality, though.
I think they're maybe better at it.
jordan holmes
I mean...
dan friesen
Better at scaring people.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they are better at scaring people.
dan friesen
It doesn't really scare white America when Christians beat up a gay guy or something like that.
unidentified
Granted, it's not a beheading.
jordan holmes
It's not bigotry.
It's religious freedom, Dan.
The thing that blew me away is when he's like, the Nazis are bad.
We shouldn't accept Nazis.
And you're like, what the fuck are you talking about?
Your friends are Nazis.
They're not Fake Nazis.
They're not pretend Nazis.
They're fucking Nazis.
They call themselves Nazis.
If you're calling yourself a Nazi, you fully accepted all of the evil.
dan friesen
All of it.
He's legit, like, one step away from having Richard Spencer on his show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's this close.
jordan holmes
This is insane.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I get what he's saying to some extent, but he's doing a really bad job of it.
The idea of, like...
Cultural absolutism, and some cultures are good, some are bad, is really just your way of saying whites are better.
But at the same time, Nazi culture is bad, or the Nazi government was bad?
It's not really a culture.
It's a government that took power and existed for, what, ten years?
jordan holmes
Yeah, something like that.
dan friesen
15 years?
From the beginning of its roots in the National Socialist Party to the end of World War II was not a long time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it was something like 1932?
dan friesen
You didn't develop a culture in that time.
You just had an exploitative, brutal government that took hold of a weakened culture based on World War I. Right.
Like, that's what happened there.
That's not a culture.
That is...
People doing that to other people.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And the Aztec culture is being so fucking reductive with it, being like, they sacrificed and cut out people's hearts.
There's a whole lot of other shit they did that was pretty great, too.
Built a lot of awesome pyramids.
Had a very interesting culture.
jordan holmes
And they created the modern slave trade.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
That was the Muslims.
Muslims.
jordan holmes
6,000 years ago, they had slaves.
dan friesen
But I know he's bebopping.
He's getting around, hitting points.
But it's just...
If you want to use those arguments to prop up your outright hatred and fear of Islam, it's just boring.
I can't imagine him having a conversation with anyone who's not an idiot or who doesn't already agree with him and him being able to pull that shit.
He'd just have to start yelling.
Because there's no way to win that argument.
jordan holmes
I mean...
It is such a stonewall.
It's such a stone.
Well, like, that reference to the Nazi culture, like, there's so much there to learn about.
Like, where did Nazi culture come from?
Why did it gain the power that it did?
And if you do learn shit about that, that points you to things that you can apply later on in life.
dan friesen
Like, don't support Trump.
jordan holmes
Like, don't!
Fucking do it!
Like, it's the same fucking bullshit over...
And I'm just talking about human societies.
Like, it is...
Immediately following the Treaty of Versailles, everybody just shit all over the Germans.
For good reason, right?
They fucking started a massive global war that murdered millions upon millions of people.
But do you know who started that war?
It wasn't the fucking people who lived in huts.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
They didn't start a goddamn war.
It was their dumb fuck government filled with dumb fuck rich people who want to get dumb fuck richer.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And what happened?
The Treaty of Versailles didn't really punish those dumb fuck rich people.
It fucked over all of the regular people.
And the regular people, when they have been so fucked over, are susceptible to getting fucked over by an even more authoritarian government that says it's going to protect them and restore them to greatness.
dan friesen
Or authoritarian governmental entities.
Like, you could say ISIS is even sort of like a rogue government that's like sporadically placed.
jordan holmes
I can see that.
dan friesen
Because I'm not even comfortable with him saying that Islamic culture...
Yeah.
Polar.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Good God, no.
dan friesen
That's absurd.
But the idea that extreme Muslim stuff is even a culture necessarily is still stupid.
That's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
Well, what's even more fascinating in terms of Muslim culture is look at how it is moving and how it's changing throughout time.
Like, I...
Believe it is either Iran or Saudi Arabia that is exporting its different ideological beliefs to universities and classrooms in Indonesia.
So Indonesia generally practiced a much more, you know...
Moderate kind of Islam where it's kind of, it's a lot more like...
dan friesen
A laissez-faire.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a little bit more like certain Protestants in, you know, like we're Christmas and Easter Christians, leave us alone.
Like that kind of a thing.
And now they have these different, more ideologically bent, more fundamental versions of Islam being spread by Saudi Arabia.
So now you have two Muslim countries in direct conflict with each other.
In their religion.
Much like you have all of these different sects of Christianity.
You have all of these different people that are constantly, you know, disagreeing with each other over fucking nothing.
dan friesen
The goddamn papists.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's just all of this...
dan friesen
I would say that Alex would ignore the point that Christianity has the similar tendencies in it, and he would just skip to, oh, that's my point.
These Muslims can't stop fighting each other.
jordan holmes
Right.
That's proof.
It's just they're people, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They're people.
dan friesen
Indeed.
jordan holmes
How is it that we still don't get that other people are also people?
dan friesen
Well, we do.
jordan holmes
Well, what we should do is eat some Ethiopian food.
dan friesen
I'm not into that.
I'm cool with other cultures, but I do want you to leave your food away from me.
I'm a bit squeamish.
jordan holmes
All right, says the guy who has his picture on the wall at a Thai restaurant.
dan friesen
Hey, I love Thai.
Anyway, this next clip is, this is crazy.
I think you might have to put the mic down, because this is nuts.
It has to do a little bit with climate change.
jordan holmes
Nope!
dan friesen
But he loses the thread really hard, and he says a lot of things that just aren't true, but this is a showman.
This would not be happening if Megyn Kelly's crew wasn't there.
This is great.
jordan holmes
Alright.
unidentified
And you have to have that...
alex jones
Information warfare perspective that you understand that every heart and every mind we reach is a major victory against the globalists, and we have turned the tide.
Their global government, TPP, is destroyed.
Their global carbon tax, the Paris Accord, is on fire.
This is irrevocable damage to the new world order.
The above-the-law corporatocracy.
That they've denied existed and Bilderberg and all of it and it's out in the open.
And then Hollywood and all the low information voters on Facebook are just, he's stomping the earth, he hates the earth!
Now America and Europe won't be the only ones with carbon taxes to shut off our economies!
Oh no!
Now there'll be less dirty plants in China because the plants won't get built there.
They'll get built here where it's totally clean.
unidentified
No!
alex jones
It's not true!
It's impossible!
No, Trump!
Don't kill the Earth!
No, we're saviors of the Earth!
We've been cast as the saviors.
We're just a bunch of idiots that...
We're trendy and don't have jobs and have two or three college degrees that are worthless, but we listen to Stephen Colbert and we want to feel important and you're the bad guy hurting us and trying to keep the jihadis out.
I mean, think about how crazy he is in total failed states where the imams issue the passports like Somalia.
unidentified
He says they can't come in from Somalia.
alex jones
Bad man!
Bad man!
I mean, think about how evil Trump is.
And every time there's another terror attack, he's proven wrong, see?
Because he said there'd be more terror attacks because you let in...
People from third world Islamic hellholes that are all killing each other and are totally crazed and have a culture of not working, just murdering each other and walking around in nightgowns and they wipe their asses with their hands and they're just total, complete fiend demons that cut their children's genitals off and put hoods over women's heads and beat them to death if they talk back and rape any women they want.
The woman complains she gets charged with sex crimes and throw gays off buildings and murder everybody.
How about Trump?
Bans people from any country that throw gays off buildings and the governments openly certify it and say it's good.
How about people are banned from any country where women have to wear hoods over their heads?
Oh, but the media spins the whole thing.
And they sit there and they say, oh, well, actually, the answer here is we should all wear hood jibs.
This is a sign of feminism.
So the West is horrible and evil, and all over the country at campuses, they're having no white stays, run by the faculty, creating total racism and division under multiculturalism, and they're bringing in incompatible, most radical forms of vile Islam that is a true cult.
Islam, in its orthodox, wahhabist form, is the biggest, oldest, most dangerous, murderous, incompatible, cancerous cult on the planet.
But they have official UN videos and German TV ads, but out of the state government, with their rock stars and their music stars, first wearing turbans and going, I wear the hajib, it's fun.
And the next, it's a real hajib.
And then it's a beekeeper suit over their heads.
And those of us that see this cult taking over, we get upset about it.
Because we know our government and the left and the globalists and the Ford Foundation is out there financing and fomenting every incompatible system, every authoritarian system to bring them into our countries and then let them have their way with us so that they can then turn around and say, oh, we've got to surveil all of you.
Oh, we have to control the Internet.
Oh, we have to censor everybody.
Oh, we have to take your rights away.
Oh, we've got to get rid of this and that and everything else.
We've got to have all this happen.
Meanwhile, England won't let its citizens have guns to defend themselves.
And they bring in absolute murderous scum who are admittedly part of jihad groups who fought in Libya.
And fought in Syria, overthrowing those countries and murdering people, and then they bring them back and wonder why they're killing people, and Trump says, if you fought for ISIS, you shouldn't be allowed back in the country.
How about you should be dead?
How about instead of deporting these people that fought for ISIS, we give them a real quick trial, and then we hang their asses.
I'll be there, I'll kick the lever, I'm ready to kill these people after a court finds them guilty of their mass murderers.
jordan holmes
That was the spirit.
dan friesen
That was...
He took a turn there from the crying liberal fake voice to...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was enjoying his performance.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
That reminded me a lot of how I sound.
dan friesen
I think it was a little over the top if I were a drama coach.
jordan holmes
A little bit?
dan friesen
I would tell him to take it down just a little.
It's a little hammy.
jordan holmes
Listen up, Pacino.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Chill it out.
dan friesen
He's just missing a hoo-ah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
We're gonna murder him.
unidentified
Hoo-ah!
jordan holmes
This is, uh, what was the one where he was the devil?
dan friesen
That was, uh, the devil's advocate?
jordan holmes
Yeah, the devil's advocate.
dan friesen
This is devil's advocate, Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So, I mean, I agree with him that people who fought for ISIS shouldn't be allowed in our country, and I think we have extreme vetting procedures already in place with the intelligence agencies that don't allow people like that in.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't think if you fought for ISIS...
You should be allowed in my country.
dan friesen
And we do have stuff in place.
Nope.
Agreed.
jordan holmes
Nope!
Travel ban!
Travel ban!
dan friesen
Also, I agree with him on the idea that terrorism should not be used to take away our liberties and stuff like that.
I agree with him in principle, but I still disagree with him because of how he's presenting it.
The stuff at the beginning is so fucking stupid because the Paris Agreement was non-binding.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
No carbon tax.
jordan holmes
No carbon tax.
How can you have a tax on us from the UN?
That's not a thing.
And it's not even the UN.
It's all the countries.
dan friesen
It's the same thing as Agenda 21, being a non-binding UN suggestion about environmentalism.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This is just another one.
What it really does when we pull out of it is we say, fuck you to world collaboration on a project.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's really the only effect it has.
jordan holmes
And it's not on fire at all.
Everybody has come out almost unilaterally and said, no, fuck you, we're gonna double down.
dan friesen
And a lot of cities and states in America have as well.
jordan holmes
Of course!
Because you know how we have the planet where we live?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we're not gonna have it for longer.
dan friesen
But here's a couple of the most important points.
Alex Jones, he has his career built up on this...
Really poorly, and I don't know if it's intentional or not, but really poorly repackaged anti-Semitism in the form of the globalists.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So in order for him to keep supporting Trump and make it seem like things are going well, but boy, they're not.
Everything is going real bad.
jordan holmes
Can we just get cuffs?
Can we just get handcuffs?
I don't even care if we take him to jail.
Just handcuff him to his desk and keep his phone away and then light him on fire.
I don't care.
dan friesen
I think the wheels are starting to fall off and the next month is going to be crazy.
unidentified
They fucking better.
dan friesen
We've said that a number of times before.
unidentified
Right?
dan friesen
But anyway, in order for him to keep up this charade that everything is going well, he has to create benchmarks.
And they have to fit into his narrative.
So they have to be that TPP was not a trade agreement.
It was global government.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So because Trump is a bad businessman and he got out of that, that has to be the victory of destroying global government.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And because Trump is a fucking climate change denier and an idiot, doesn't understand science at all, he got out of the Paris Agreement.
Or- Alex has to repackage that as, oh, there were carbon taxes.
This is how the globalists are going to fund themselves.
Trump has destroyed them.
When in reality, none of that is true.
jordan holmes
It's either that or he had his handshake beaten by the French president, so he got a little pissy.
dan friesen
Some speculation about that.
jordan holmes
It's as solid a working theory as anything else at this point.
dan friesen
So in the middle of that rant, too, there was something interesting.
jordan holmes
I do like that.
It hadn't occurred to me in the way that you put that.
He's creating benchmarks.
The way that you put that didn't...
Click for me before, but yeah, he's creating goals that have already been met.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So it was not a goal to get out of the TPP or to leave the Paris Accord or anything like that.
But he did it, so now it becomes the goal.
dan friesen
Well, he did groundwork beforehand.
I do believe that Alex was sincerely against the TPP.
He has a rich history of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, that does fit.
dan friesen
And he would be against...
jordan holmes
And I think I'm against the TPP with a lot of the things that it was trying to do.
dan friesen
I'm for it in principle, but there were problematic aspects of it.
We don't have time to litigate that right now.
But there are things that he would be against.
Don't get me wrong, but he has to repackage it.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So he did groundwork before Trump ended up getting out of the Paris Agreement by saying...
That it's a carbon tax.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Blah, blah, blah.
He lays the groundwork ahead of time in order to give Trump these artificial imaginary victories over the imaginary globalists that keep his audience thinking, oh, we're getting it.
We're really making progress against this shadowy group.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm saying.
The progress.
Before I got that it was the victories that he was celebrating.
It didn't occur to me that it was actually a measure of like, hey, we are taking it down step by step.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like that kind of a thing.
Like this is something that he's trying to turn into a chain of...
And this one takes down this part of their system, and this one takes down this part of their system, and we're chipping away at the globalists piece by piece.
dan friesen
While never, never getting into any of the details about anything.
jordan holmes
Good God, no!
dan friesen
Because if you do, it erodes the entire facade.
Like, the idea that the Paris Agreement was a carbon tax, if he started to try and prove that...
It would just fall apart.
jordan holmes
It's so ridiculous that you can't, like, you just stroke out.
dan friesen
Kind of.
jordan holmes
Like, I just heard that and I'm just like, my brain won't accept something this dumb.
dan friesen
And then, I mean, that's why he, the things that he says whenever he talks about how great Trump is doing are those things.
And then bringing back prosperity, bringing back small business numbers and stuff like that.
They're all super vague and if you look at them, they aren't actually...
That's not necessarily indicative of anything Trump is doing.
jordan holmes
Well, Trump hasn't done anything.
Other than ruin shit.
dan friesen
And now a lot of the plants that he said were going to, you know, like, we're going to save this plant, they're all closing.
jordan holmes
They're all closing, because of course they are.
dan friesen
Yeah, and all the jobs that...
jordan holmes
The future is renewable energy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, whether we're a part of the future or not, it's going to happen.
dan friesen
And that's an argument that a lot of people have made that is being really not addressed by Alex, is that...
By pulling out of the climate agreement, Paris Agreement, we are basically giving all of these other countries, mostly China, a huge head start in terms of being able to create these innovative technologies that will be billion-dollar markets in the future and will create countless jobs.
And we could be pioneering it.
jordan holmes
Who cares about jobs?
I get the jobs.
It will bring more jobs.
dan friesen
But you have to speak on that language.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I understand that.
dan friesen
To people who distrust science, you have to have something concrete like that, that carrot to dangle out in front of them.
jordan holmes
It's so infuriating.
It is.
It does start to remind me of the fall of Nazi Germany whenever we're bringing all their scientists over.
The French president is like, hey guys.
Come over here.
We'll give you asylum.
That's how bad we are at treating science.
That they're like, guys, we will protect you here.
dan friesen
He's trying to lure away the early German defectors.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Which was something that we did successfully.
dan friesen
So the other thing in that clip that Bear's mentioning is he's talking about how there's like...
Anti-white shit going on on campuses.
jordan holmes
God, I hope there is.
dan friesen
And he talks about how there's a day, like, these campuses, they're having a no-white-people day!
And he's really mad about this.
He brings it up repeatedly.
And I looked into it a little bit.
It's happening at this college called Evergreen College.
jordan holmes
I read something about that.
dan friesen
Do you know about this day with no white people?
Do you know about it?
Because I'd like to read a paragraph about what they're doing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I read about that and the one professor who was like, maybe this is a bad idea.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And everybody went apeshit on him.
dan friesen
Right.
Well, the thing is, it's called the Day of Absence.
And here's how they describe it.
The idea for The Day of Absence came from a play of the same name by African American playwright Douglas Turner Ward.
Presented in 1965 as a reverse minstrel show, Black Actors in Whiteface, the play is a social commentary on race relations in the U.S. and satirizes the South's refusal to see African Americans as equal members of the community.
In the play, a town wakes up to find all of its African American citizens have disappeared, leaving those who left to reflect on the meaning of their community without these essential members.
The Day of Absence, as it was originally known, began in the 1970s when faculty member Maxine Mims, inspired by the play, approached Administrator Stone Thomas about the idea of joining with other faculty and staff of color and spending a workday away from campus as a grassroots collective action.
In the decades following, Day of Absence grew to become an opportunity for all students, faculty, and staff at Evergreen to explore and celebrate the richness of our diversity by facilitating conversations about issues of difference.
In 1992, Day of Presence was added in order to reunite the college community and honor diversity and unity as a whole campus.
So that's basically what it is.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
You have this sort of thought experiment, this sort of experiential thought experiment, wherein one group is absent from your entire surroundings and you start to remember, you start to realize more of like, oh...
These other folk who I take for granted, who just are sort of window-dressing, perhaps, they're actually an integral part of my life, and you start to appreciate them more.
It's not some sort of racist gesture.
It's quite literally the opposite.
jordan holmes
No, it's absence makes the heart grow fonder.
dan friesen
Somewhat.
And so the professor who was against it...
I mean, he has a point, but I don't think he gets it.
I don't think he gets what was going on.
He's like, I can't discriminate based on race.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I didn't like the response.
dan friesen
I'm iffy on his action.
I don't know what I feel about it, quite frankly, because I get where he's coming from, and I don't want to...
I don't know.
But I do know that the response to what happened after...
He said, I'm still going to go to campus.
I'm a white guy.
I don't care.
Sort of blowing the whole thing.
Then people were like, come on, man.
We've been doing this since the 70s.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is just a thing.
You're depriving students of this experience.
So everyone got mad about it.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And then a bunch of racists started calling in terrorist threats.
jordan holmes
Oh!
dan friesen
A bunch of people started calling the police station saying they were going to show up on campus with a gun and start executing people, and they had to shut down their campus for a couple days.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So the actual thing has been going on peacefully since the 70s, and I'm sure a lot of people have gotten a lot out of it.
And now, because of the fucking climate that we live in, people start talking about it.
And idiots enter the conversation and start making threats.
jordan holmes
You could almost say that we have a Nazi culture.
dan friesen
Almost.
jordan holmes
It's a bad one.
We have a bad culture.
I think our culture might be bad.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Thanks, Alex Jones!
It's not all his fault, but...
jordan holmes
No, but it's what he represents.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, through...
Like, doing the show and seeing through the eyes of Alex Jones, seeing all of this bigotry, There's dog whistling still, I think, except for about Islam.
Well, about the Jews, definitely.
dan friesen
Yeah, there is still that, but if you listen to more than one episode, you see through it.
If you casually listen or you don't engage with what he's actually saying, it's still kind of dog whistling.
But taken as a whole, taken in context, it's just overt bigotry.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And there's really no way around it.
When Alex Jones talks about how people accuse him of being racist with no evidence, I would really direct people to our show.
jordan holmes
I would direct people to his show.
dan friesen
It's too hard to listen to.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
I've gotten a couple tweets from a couple people who have listened to the show because of our show.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
No, we love you.
Don't do it.
dan friesen
I keep telling people, like, leave it to the pros.
It's bad to listen to.
It's very difficult.
You see how much I have to listen to Sasha Banks' theme song to just make it through.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, anyway, that last clip that we played was a crazy rant.
It was an insane rant that ended in the commercial break.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
So now, we're going to listen to how he comes back from break and kind of admits that he was being a little bit manipulative.
jordan holmes
Oh, oh really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Welcome back, I'm Alex Jones, your host.
Got a bunch of big guests coming up today, but before I get back into who's coming up...
Let me just explain what I just did earlier.
So we can actually take this clip later and put it out as a video to the general public.
Not just our great audience of radio affiliates and TV stations and folks watching live right now on InfoWars.com.
I deliberately this morning thought about how do I trigger a debate about radical Orthodox Islam's tenet being kill everyone outside of Islam.
That's why they're constantly killing other Muslims that they catch drinking or who are gay or lesbian or whatever.
And I'm not even a gay or lesbian activist.
I don't go to gay bars.
Oh, you're not?
I want them to be able to have their own lives.
jordan holmes
Really?
alex jones
I'm upset by Islam running around killing them en masse.
And you wonder why Islam continues to attack the gay bars and the little teeny bopper Andrea Grande liberal events.
And they said, we don't like a bunch of young women dancing around without male escorts.
We're going to kill them.
That was a sinful event.
Teenage girls.
They're listening to another woman posing as a teenage girl who, quote, hopes her effing fans die.
Ariana Grande, a true pig-like creature.
jordan holmes
And there we go.
alex jones
They're there.
They get killed.
And the media tries to cover up that it's Islamic.
The usual thing.
And so, yes, I'm saying Trump's being called a radical for banning seven countries where they don't have real passport systems in many of them.
Failed states like Libya, thanks to Hillary and Obama again.
Failed states like Somalia, on and on and on, we accept the weirdo passports that are issued by the caliphate?
dan friesen
Nope.
So, that clip got away from him.
Because he started by talking about how, like, let me tell you what I did.
jordan holmes
Let me start a debate.
I wanted to start a debate.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
That's what I wanted to do.
But I didn't want to tell you how I felt.
dan friesen
I think that this is the same as what he thinks he started a Sandy Hook debate.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like his argument that we just had a debate.
We heard both sides.
There were no kids.
It was all actors.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, you're just an insane person.
dan friesen
He doesn't understand what a debate is.
He thinks...
jordan holmes
I think he understands what a debate is for him, which is he says what he wants to say, you are quiet, and then he says he's right.
dan friesen
I literally know what he's saying.
I hope they play what I just said on NBC.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Because everyone's going to be talking about these ideas about radical Islam.
Right.
And so that's what he's saying.
jordan holmes
Right.
So we can cut this clip, and when they cut it, which will be shorter and will probably take me out of context, and then the liberal blogosphere will get all up in arms.
Alex Jones says that Muslims are blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Then we can play the real clip, which has me saying exactly what you think I'm saying.
dan friesen
And worse.
jordan holmes
And then it has me saying, let me tell you what I just did.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, they'll cut that part out.
jordan holmes
Oh, will they?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I feel like that's the part that they're going to throw in afterwards and be like, see, you're just overreacting.
This is Paul Joseph Watson's paper eating all over again.
I was just acting.
I was just throwing out an example of how you might think that I might think.
dan friesen
So listeners, look for him to start making these sorts of arguments in the coming days, because I'm sure the Megyn Kelly interview won't air for a few days.
But once it does, look for him to start doing this sort of bullshit, because that's sort of his M.O. It's going to be so pure and blatant.
Yeah, and the interview will be, like I said, a huge L. So in this next clip...
jordan holmes
I hope she just asked him, like, So, Alex...
dan friesen
What's wrong with you?
jordan holmes
How do you think I look now?
Do you think I look good?
Do you think I look good?
unidentified
What do you think?
jordan holmes
Am I not pretty enough for Fox News, you piece of shit?
dan friesen
What do you think I tell my friends?
jordan holmes
How about you go fuck yourself, Alex Jones?
That would be my interview.
If I'm Megyn Kelly, my first words are, Alex Jones, have you considered going and fucking yourself?
dan friesen
Hey, Alex Jones, you like to make fun of my appearance.
How about you?
jordan holmes
God damn it!
dan friesen
Supermail ain't working.
jordan holmes
Just a straight 20 minutes of you fat...
Ugly, misshapen nightmare of a human face.
What happened while you were gestating in the wound that turned you into this fucking...
dan friesen
Is your mom a smoker?
Is that a toop?
You got a toop up there?
You wearing a rug on your head?
What are you doing?
jordan holmes
Hey, Alex Jonas, is that your name?
Just mispronounce everything.
dan friesen
Alexis Jonas here.
Thanks for giving me this interview.
unidentified
I don't know why I'm here.
dan friesen
It would be so great.
Oh, God.
That would be the best.
jordan holmes
Alex, real quick question.
Am I on green screen right now?
Am I?
Can you see my nose?
How about you touch it?
unidentified
How about you touch my nose?
dan friesen
She is way too professional to do something like that, but Jesus Christ, it would be so great.
God damn it.
jordan holmes
Give me the pettiest Alex.
See, and that's the thing that would be great about it.
dan friesen
Or if she had contacted us.
And we could give her, like, those clips about his mom kicking her off the knee.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
And stuff like that.
Like, ask questions about that.
jordan holmes
That would be fucking amazing!
dan friesen
Like, if Megyn Kelly was like, I understand that when you were five, your mom told you that you needed to be a man.
When you were six, your mom told you you needed to be a man, so she wasn't gonna love you anymore.
unidentified
Comment?
dan friesen
That would be so crazy!
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
He would lose it.
If it really got into, like, an in-depth, like, not...
Alex Jones, what do you think?
Alex Jones, what made you?
dan friesen
Alex Jones, you claim to have been beat up more than Martin Luther King.
Comment?
jordan holmes
Alex Jones, can I just get independent confirmation of the number of women that you slept with before you were 16?
dan friesen
Hey, Alex Jones, earlier today, you on your broadcast said something that I said off the record.
Are you a journalist?
What the fuck is wrong with you?
That would be so great.
jordan holmes
Man.
dan friesen
Man.
jordan holmes
Tweet at Megyn Kelly.
Get her to...
It's too late.
dan friesen
It's literally happening as we record this.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
It's happening as we record this.
dan friesen
Fuck.
jordan holmes
Man, we need to be consultants on any and every Alex Jones interview.
dan friesen
Damn, it would be so great.
I need to get Louis Theroux to do an episode about Alex Jones.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
That would be good stuff.
dan friesen
Because he would...
Louis Theroux is maybe the only person I think...
Who could get a good interview out of Alex?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because he would trick Alex into thinking that he was kind of on his side.
jordan holmes
Right.
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
Like, he went and interviewed the Westboro Baptist people and kind of got some good interviews out of them.
Except for the mom.
She wasn't playing ball.
jordan holmes
There's no winning with her.
dan friesen
Nor Fred Phelps.
He was not fucking around either.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
But, anyway, Louie, go have a chat.
So this next clip, Jordan, is another rant.
And I believe that this rant is directed right at Megyn Kelly's crew.
You can see him looking sort of off camera while he's delivering this.
So it's clear he's doing this almost like a, hey, go fuck yourself kind of promo.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
It's about how the globalists want to destroy us, but then kind of gets into Alex Jones just doing some slow strokes on his own dick.
Just slow, here I am, baby.
jordan holmes
Just edging it out.
dan friesen
Just trying to make the head really swollen.
jordan holmes
Right, right, gotcha, gotcha.
dan friesen
Just peacocking his dick.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
This shit is ridiculous.
alex jones
And that's what we're coming down to here, and the human species is awake and not backing down, ladies and gentlemen, of every race, color, and creed.
We do all bleed red blood, and we do have one sovereign flag that is the history of our republic, and I call it 1776 worldwide.
And Donald Trump is launching Operation 1776.
That's what all this is.
A lot of people in the government and the CIA and everywhere else go.
Stuff Jones was saying 15 years ago, word for word, is coming out of Trump's mouth.
Stuff he was saying five years ago, word for word, yes, you guessed it.
Of course the president, and of course Bannon, and of course all those people, and the military, and the generals listen to me.
dan friesen
He's going to give a reason why.
It's not the right reason.
It's because all those people he listed are bigots.
alex jones
And you know why they listen?
Because they already know everything I know and more.
This is just one of the only radio shows that actually is in reality.
They don't get their info from me.
They're on the same page.
We're bringing back America.
We want the republic to be strong.
We want prosperity.
We want 1950.
2.0!
People go, oh, you want to go back.
No, 250 was science.
And we could do anything.
And we were going to end the discrimination in America.
And we were going to come together.
Because we just won World War II.
And darn it, we weren't like those Nazis.
And the Democrats were scared.
The KKK wasn't popular anymore.
They didn't know what to do, so they became the anti-racist.
And you see them using their same tricks today, whether it's Nancy Pelosi or Maxine Waters.
These are conscious, evil, race pimp.
Horrible people who hate everybody and are using divide and conquer when Donald Trump is unifying the people and having them come together.
jordan holmes
He is doing that.
Not on purpose.
alex jones
Unifying America.
Not unifying us with the UN and global government and TPP and IMF and World Bank and all these things we never got a vote in.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know that.
alex jones
And to watch the corporate media sit there dumbfounded when he had that speech recently pulling out of the Paris Accords when he told it like it was.
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
To the whole world.
And said, I represent Pittsburgh, not Paris.
And this is a screw job, and here's how the taxes affect us.
dan friesen
Also, Pittsburgh has come out roundly against that statement.
jordan holmes
He does not represent Pittsburgh.
dan friesen
Also, Hillary Clinton won Pittsburgh.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
And it's designed to shut us down economically and to pick winners and losers by a corporate elite.
That was high noon to Count Dracula.
jordan holmes
Fill your hand.
alex jones
That was like dragging his...
Coughing out in the middle of a big field on the 4th of July.
dan friesen
We'll get back to his Dracula metaphor, but I remember what I wanted to bring up with that Pittsburgh-Paris thing.
I read a really interesting write-up about that and about how that is about masculinity.
The idea that he's saying that we support Pittsburgh, not Paris, is this idea.
It's coded language to people who have...
Really ingrained masculinity ideas, because when you think of Pittsburgh, you think of these dudes working in steel mills.
jordan holmes
Steel mining town.
dan friesen
You think of these gruff dudes, and you think of rugged masculinity.
You think of Paris, you think of fae, je ne sais quoi, kind of guys in berets with a baguette over their shoulder.
You think of dishy, essentially homosexual men.
jordan holmes
A two-hour lunch?
Two hours!
dan friesen
What is a crepe?
jordan holmes
What is happening here?
dan friesen
Yeah, what are you doing?
jordan holmes
How many more stereotypes can we fill?
dan friesen
This pancake is too thin!
So basically, when Trump...
jordan holmes
Get me back to Pittsburgh!
dan friesen
When Trump said those things, that was...
Like, he could have chose any town to say he supported, and the reason that he chose that is, first of all, the alliteration, but then second, the speechwriter did that very intentionally.
That is a message.
We're into dudes, not you dumbass...
Dishy, European fucks.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But beyond even the European fucks, that is a message to femmy men.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Here.
jordan holmes
You might as well just be saying cheese-eating surrender monkeys again.
dan friesen
Right.
But that's at least funny.
jordan holmes
That's very funny.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Thank you, The Simpsons.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I mean, that's why that sort of thing really resonates with Alex.
I mean, he's already against the Paris Agreement, but then you throw in that sort of thing that he probably doesn't even subconsciously, or he subconsciously but not consciously understands, that this is right in his toxic masculinity wheelhouse.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So anyway, back to the Dracula metaphor.
jordan holmes
Also, once again, the Paris Accords are not just for Paris.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's not how that works.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
He's mad because the French president has a big hand.
dan friesen
That's most of it.
jordan holmes
That is what I believe, and I will die believing that.
dan friesen
And he's not putting up with this bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
dan friesen
Anyways, speaking of bullshit, here's more on Dracula.
alex jones
And just opening that coffin up, and Count Dracula is burning up right now.
jordan holmes
Can we just acknowledge that we are listening to a show where you can say, well, here is that bullshit about the Paris Accord.
Now, more about Dracula.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, you know, it's a nice metaphorical globalist Dracula, but still.
jordan holmes
It's not.
dan friesen
His show is so fucking stupid.
I can't believe he has millions of dollars and we bring in what we do.
Anyway.
alex jones
George Soros, the New World Order, their whole big plan, their whole technocracy is dying.
The American people and the Briggs and everybody else have already literally driven two foot Short sword, double-edged daggers up through the sternum, into the heart, and are just sloshing around the liver, kidneys, and everything else.
And we just pulled the knife out and the globalists are stumbling off, bleeding to death, and they know it.
The most important thing politically to understand, though, is while they die, while the giant squid dies, let's make sure it can't get its tentacles wrapped around us and drag us to the bottom.
So don't ever give up.
All the giant squids rolling around bleeding to death.
We're the equivalent of sperm whales.
We gotta turn in and go over and get another big bite in.
Another big bite in.
And make sure they know, we know you're the enemy.
We know you hate America.
We know you're a bunch of alpha psychopaths that think you're better than us and that think you'll dominate us.
And just like the communists and just like the fascists and just like the redcoats, America is coming back and is gonna kick your butt politically.
So get ready.
The trance you've had over humanity is over.
So get ready.
Nationalism, free market is the winning team.
Always has been, always will be.
The Renaissance, 550 years old, ladies and gentlemen.
And it's about to go into full bloom and we're about to see the greatest innovations and the secrets of the universe unlocked.
And the globalists don't want that.
They want the universities busy turning the youth into basket cases that are mentally ill and all fighting with each other so that you're so screwed up and such a chip-on-the-shoulder neurotic that by the time you get three degrees and you're $150,000 in debt and you realize you'll never get out of debt because just the financing of it will be another $100,000, you're so politically scrambled in a cult, you don't know what hit you.
jordan holmes
I do have a lot of debt.
alex jones
And that's what this is all about.
And it's going to get worse.
dan friesen
Two important things.
First, he dropped out of junior college.
jordan holmes
Well, he doesn't have as much debt as I do.
dan friesen
Second thing, the reason that student debt is so high is largely...
jordan holmes
Can't think of any reason.
dan friesen
Free market.
jordan holmes
Can't think of any reason why it would be so high.
dan friesen
Free market.
jordan holmes
Nope.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
Prosperity.
Nationalism and free market is the winning team.
As everyone has seen throughout history, nationalistic countries have always won in the end.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
They have never been destroyed from within like they always are.
dan friesen
Yeah, they never cause massive global problems.
jordan holmes
No, I can't think of any nationalistic country that has caused serious...
Unending harm to the rest of the world.
dan friesen
And then, like, I get why he...
I mean, the term free market sounds great.
Because it's free.
jordan holmes
It's free?
dan friesen
And it's a marketplace.
jordan holmes
I love markets.
dan friesen
We all love those things.
jordan holmes
Oh, flea market?
That sounds even better.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's wonderful.
You can buy some Nazi regalia there.
Like Alex Jones has in the past.
But the thing is, the reality of the free market, unchecked, is tragic.
The things that it's brought into the world, child slavery, essentially, in the mines.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
This student debt crisis that we're in.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
Artificial bubbles.
jordan holmes
Great Depression.
dan friesen
All of that is direct results of free market capitalism.
jordan holmes
World War I. Yeah.
dan friesen
All of it is just because you need regulations on the free market or else people are going to constantly abuse it.
Yeah.
unidentified
That is part of the game of the...
dan friesen
It's just built into it.
jordan holmes
That's, yeah.
dan friesen
So he can't say...
jordan holmes
It's not corporations' job to self-regulate because that's not what they can do.
They can't do that.
dan friesen
It's like, okay, I used to go to my old therapist.
I used to talk to him a bunch about how when I worked at Groupon, I was very guilty about how little work I was doing and how, like, I told them I need more work and just, you know, weeks go by and I've got, like, nothing to do.
I'm getting paid to do basically nothing.
I always express my guilt and he would be like...
You don't have to feel bad.
It's not your job to be your boss.
I was like, oh, free market.
Because it's not.
jordan holmes
It's not.
dan friesen
I'm basically a company and my boss is the government.
If the government doesn't set, you know, like, here are the things you can and can't do, you're just an employee getting paid to do nothing, running buck wild.
I found scams.
I found fucking scams.
jordan holmes
What'd you scam?
dan friesen
Cheated my time card like crazy.
jordan holmes
Nice.
dan friesen
Yeah, I got paid for a lot of hours.
I didn't work.
I'd be writing on the clock for hours at work.
I would just be sitting...
That's free market.
Anyway, beyond that, I feel like you had some thoughts.
jordan holmes
The thing that...
They are a bunch of alpha psychopaths who think they can dominate us.
dan friesen
They think they're better than us.
jordan holmes
They think they're better than us.
Blows me away.
dan friesen
Why?
jordan holmes
Well, because he constantly...
dan friesen
Thinks he's better than people?
jordan holmes
Constantly says he's an alpha.
Constantly intimidates people.
dan friesen
Constantly expresses psychopathy.
jordan holmes
Constantly tries to dominate anybody who gets in his way.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How is he not just drawing a portrait of himself and saying, hate this?
dan friesen
Well, it's the same thing with, like, Obamacare versus Affordable Care Act.
You know how so many more people like the Affordable Care Act when you just describe it as opposed to calling it Obamacare?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I think that if you just described the tendencies that Alex Jones has, he'd be like, Oh, that's a globalist.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You just take him out of it, his identity out of it.
That behavior is very indicative of someone that he would call, that's globalist tendencies.
jordan holmes
New interview tactic for when we eventually interview a broke, homeless, just decrepit Alex Jones.
dan friesen
That won't be fun.
jordan holmes
All right?
No, it won't be fun.
It will be cathartic, though.
Sometimes you don't do things because they're fun.
Yeah.
Just pull out words that he said and then free associate them with sentences he said.
Just like, you hate alpha psychopaths.
Here is something that an alpha psychopath said.
Would you agree?
dan friesen
Comment?
That's my interview style.
Just say something like that and comment.
jordan holmes
Do you have anything to say?
Like you're a nun at a convent?
And how do you feel?
dan friesen
All of this just goes to his complete lack of self-awareness.
When he talks about how I'm real and people listen to me because this is the only show that brings you real truth, it's so easy to pick anything that he says and just be like, okay, here's why this is a lie.
The idea of a whites-only day on campus and presenting as a racist thing is a complete lie.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
That's absolutely not what's going on.
The idea that extremism in the Islamic community is exploding is a complete fabrication and just fear-mongering about what is a problem, but it's not the biggest problem in the world.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Him and Paul Joseph Watson are beholden to crazy, stupid propaganda.
He's an idiot.
His show is just repeating propaganda, more or less.
And he thinks it's the truth.
jordan holmes
That's a nice little...
Like, he's the outlet mall.
Like, he's the resale store of Russian propaganda now.
dan friesen
He's the carnival barker in front of that store.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you get it cheaper.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Anyway.
Or just his, like, their technocracy is dying.
What do you think is coming?
dan friesen
So, if, if, if...
The globalists are real.
If this shadowy group of people is real, and they've been conspiring behind the scenes since, I don't know, the last 150 years or whatever.
jordan holmes
Something along those lines.
dan friesen
200 years, something like that.
You think for one hot goddamn second their plans are foiled by pulling out of a climate agreement?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
That's so stupid.
jordan holmes
Done.
dan friesen
That's so stupid.
jordan holmes
Global cabal!
That non-binding agreement?
How could they?
dan friesen
These people who have been secretly planning behind the scenes and poisoning the water and tricking every scientist and conspiring with the media.
All of this stuff.
They created fake vaccines.
Like literally every single...
They make false shootings happen in order to start a race war that never happens.
All of this stuff that they've been doing behind the scenes.
And somehow they had one plan.
And it was a non-binding agreement.
That every other country signed on to.
Yeah.
unidentified
Somehow...
dan friesen
That's so stupid.
jordan holmes
It's dumb.
dan friesen
It's unbelievably stupid, even if you agree with his foundational premise that the globalists...
Like, if you are a conspiracy theorist who just believes in the globalists, even you would have to be like, Alex.
jordan holmes
That is a bad plan.
dan friesen
That's...
Like...
They can't...
They can't possibly be that unstrategic if their strategy has worked secretly up till this point.
jordan holmes
But they can only create an enemy that is as dumb as them.
They're not smart enough to create a smart enemy.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
That's the thing with Alex Jones.
He can't imagine an enemy that has more intelligence than he does.
dan friesen
So now your premise is that the globalists are stupid.
jordan holmes
The globalists have to be stupid.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Because they're a figment of Alex Jones' imagination.
Oh, I get it.
And by being so...
dan friesen
I went reverse.
I went reverse on it.
I was imagining these globalists are dumb, so they've invented Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
That's just as reasonable.
dan friesen
As a stupid enemy for them.
Because they're like, we're stupid.
Let's get this guy to yell about us.
jordan holmes
That's the James Bond movie we need to write.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, that's the thing.
Because he thinks he is the...
Just apotheosis of human intelligence.
He can only believe that the globalists are as smart as he thinks they are.
He's only capable of thinking of dumb things.
So the globalists are dumb.
dan friesen
I think that's fair.
I think you might have nailed it in terms of war games and this backwards.
Reverse engineering it.
jordan holmes
Yes, I've reverse engineered...
All of it.
That's why.
That's why, Dan, you have been saying things that I have been saying five years ago.
dan friesen
Maybe I have.
jordan holmes
Ten years ago.
dan friesen
I have no idea.
So, great.
Reverse engineering.
jordan holmes
I applaud you.
dan friesen
Why, thank you.
This next clip is a rant.
Another rant.
Who would have thought?
This one is crazy.
What?
I know I've said that about all of them.
unidentified
But this one is like he I don't even know how to describe what he's talking about.
dan friesen
He starts by talking.
I think it's at the beginning about a guy who stood up to the Muslim terrorists in London.
Right.
unidentified
And how he like was a fan of a soccer team.
dan friesen
And that sort of kicks him off into a really weird trajectory.
But also it's worth noting that he's reading a Daily Mail.
So, real great source.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Murdoch.
dan friesen
The direction this rant goes is unhinged, and he starts screaming, and it's about himself.
jordan holmes
How?
dan friesen
This gets really personal, and there's a moment you see a look in his face like, oh boy.
It doesn't bode well for the fact that the interview with Megyn Kelly is taking place like two hours after this.
unidentified
Oh boy.
dan friesen
If he's getting this worked up and like really revealing stuff about himself, that he...
Immediately realize that this interview is going to be a disaster.
I'll let you hear, without me ruining it, what the reveal is, but it's fucked up.
alex jones
The answer is culture war.
We've got to intensify it, and that's what all this is.
So when you understand, you see one of these fake liberals, these are sociopaths who are beta males.
Who want to be in dominant positions but don't want to create economies, don't want responsibility, don't want prosperity.
They want to see everybody else fail so they feel big.
So you get consortiums of beta males together with also control-free cryptic women and they build these alliances with psychology and all the rest of it.
To create an unaware...
Oh yeah, they found another one.
I forgot this one.
The unaware and compliant and ignorant.
Yes, that's another one of them.
Oh, you're so smart!
Oh my gosh, you put the wrong...
You told women don't breastfeed and then put out...
For generations, formula combinations you knew would reduce IQ 30 points.
Oh, you're so advanced!
You created billions of quasi-retarded people to rule over everyone so you could be so powerful!
And then get a bunch of mercenary TV crews to run around and point at somebody who's actually virile and alive and primitive and is aware of what they're doing and is exposing it!
So they can make all their jokes all day and have their Tuck Buckford characters and the rest of it.
But you know what?
I am primitively reaching out to people in an emergency warning saying, you are under attack.
We are under attack.
These are con artists that are running your life.
And if you go along with them, you have conned yourself.
And when you give in to them, you have conned yourself.
Come out of the trance.
You don't have to believe what I believe.
You don't have to follow what I follow.
You just have to know you've been lied to and take the blinders off.
And that's all I'm asking.
That's all I'm asking.
I got a bunch of clips I want to get to.
dan friesen
He doesn't.
unidentified
A ton of stuff I want to break down.
alex jones
Hillary, though, just said don't worry about a jihad attack.
If a guy comes into your pub screaming Allah Akbar with a two-foot knife, three guys come in and start stabbing women in front of you.
Imagine.
I've got the full reports here.
The Islamists always target the weakest and they got a thing about hating women.
And so, I guess they figure they can kill more because they won't resist as much.
And they just start stabbing them right in the eyes and right in the throat.
And the men reported they would just stand there while they would stab each woman ten times.
I'm laughing.
I'm liberal.
This is for Allah.
This is for Allah.
And the men are all sitting there and one guy out of over a hundred in this pub, the Blue and White Pub.
Who's a hooligan, a bad man.
He still goes to soccer games, some vestigial male thing, and still gets in fights sometimes.
Oh my God!
It's men like this that got us here, standing up against garbage like this.
He stands up, takes them on, the Lion of London Bridge, and they're talking about maybe charging him now.
You know, it's like the guy that had the gypsies robbing him, and he shot him.
They robbed him the third time.
He spent like, what was it, 10 years in prison?
I'm going for memory.
dan friesen
Bad memory.
alex jones
And so this guy stands up and says, F you.
Shouts the name of his soccer team.
It wasn't England.
It wasn't Western culture.
It wasn't Renaissance.
But at least he had something he had allegiance to.
At least he was willing to stand up.
This was his pub.
His people.
He just watched them stab a bunch of people.
And they're talking about what a lion he is.
I mean, let me tell you, I want to survive.
Three guys pop in here with knives, man.
I'm going to overturn this.
I'm going to grab this bottle.
Of course, I'm here in the United States and my forebearers...
Made sure I have the Second Amendment.
I fought for it.
I've got my concealed carry.
So, oh, guess what?
If jihadis bust in here, they're going to have to face my 9mm.
But see, imagine, see, this guy that fought them, 100 people stood there and just watched as they stabbed women.
He's the weirdo.
He's the bad guy.
I'm the weirdo because I've got a firearm.
The government can have big armored bases and command bases and nuclear weapons and take my tax money to have it.
But if I've got a firearm, see, it's scary, isn't it?
And it was so scary when I was growing up, you know, if some gang member four years older than me, when I'm like 12, starts beating me up, and so I pick a brick up and smash it over their head, and the police get there and they go, well, the people said they saw he attacked you, but you know, this guy's in a coma.
We're going to have to take you to juvenile.
See, it was still bad.
It was still bad.
You've got a 12-year-old beating his head to the ground, and you're like 16, 17 years old trying to kill me, and I fought back.
I'm the bad man.
I'm the evil man.
I never attacked anybody that didn't attack me first.
But see, I'm the ultimate evil, you see?
Because the sociopaths and the psychopaths, they don't like anybody standing up.
That's why they've got their filthy, degenerate, stinking nanny state.
unidentified
Thank you.
Thank you.
alex jones
Uh-oh.
jordan holmes
He's pausing a long time here.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
He does not like revealing that information.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
But hold on.
alex jones
You know, I would have gotten this wound up today even if Megyn Kelly hadn't been here.
jordan holmes
Sure you would have.
Sure you would have.
alex jones
I haven't gotten wound up in a while as much because I just...
jordan holmes
Because Megyn Kelly wasn't there.
alex jones
I try to realize what social engineers are doing and just deal with it intellectually and take care of it.
But I understand.
I need to be real with people at a primitive level.
People ask, am I fake?
Am I an actor?
I've been in movies.
I can be an actor, but I've always played parts.
That were what I already believed.
Understand?
It's like saying, are you an actor when you go up to a pretty woman and are trying to be charming?
No, you're being yourself.
But it's the same thing.
I'm angry about the Islamic attacks.
I'm angry about the apologists for it.
I'm genuinely pissed off.
And then I let myself be that way on air.
But I'm in control of myself.
dan friesen
Nope.
alex jones
Most of the time.
But all I'm saying is, I'm letting people at least see verbally what people were like in the past if there was a threat going on.
I mean, if you went back a thousand years ago and you're in some valley, let's say in Europe or wherever it is in the world, or Asia, it didn't matter, and somebody had come through the valley that day, marauders, and grabbed your wife and daughters and some of your kids and run off with them, you'd go give a speech like that to the men in the village.
Saying, I know that tribe over the hill might be bigger than us, but if we don't stand up, they're never going to stop coming and kidnapping our family.
Let's get our weapons and let's go get our family back.
jordan holmes
That's why they have the Second Amendment back.
alex jones
And that's what a leader is.
dan friesen
So he guarantees that in caveman days, the speeches were just like that.
jordan holmes
Dope.
They were dope speeches.
Everybody knows.
dan friesen
That wasn't a speech.
jordan holmes
When somebody came through the valley and stole your wife and kids, like perhaps his wife stole his kids.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Something along those lines.
Then you go back to the people.
dan friesen
You scream about how when you were a kid you hit a guy with a brick.
jordan holmes
What the fuck was that?
dan friesen
Let's be clear.
I'm sure he was getting picked on.
I'm willing to believe that a guy did beat him up.
But I'm not willing to believe that the threat was what he describes.
You know what I'm saying?
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
I know a lot about Alex Jones from listening to him.
He's prone to fear, paranoia, and exaggeration.
So I bet that some guy was sort of like, hey, fuck you, kid.
Something like that.
Maybe a guy who was a little older than him.
And maybe beat him up a little bit.
Which is bad.
Bullies should not do that sort of thing.
It sucks.
But I also don't think he...
That whatever was happening merited putting a guy in a coma by hitting him in the head with a brick.
And you can tell that long fucking pause right there and the long pause that leads to a...
jordan holmes
That was like a post-traumatic stress disorder pause right there.
dan friesen
That was fucked up.
unidentified
Yeah.
And ask yourself a question.
jordan holmes
Does Alex Jones hit a man with a brick once?
No.
dan friesen
Well, he has said in the past he's put multiple people in comas.
I don't know if his weapon of choice is a brick.
I think it's bricks!
jordan holmes
And that's when Nank died.
dan friesen
I've been around, I don't want to use names, but I have a couple friends who got into a little bit of a fight.
jordan holmes
Is this off the record?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Can I give your sources?
dan friesen
It's pretty public, but they just want to put people's business in the streets.
They were wrestling around a little bit, and one of them got a little bit too, thought the threat was way worse than it was in the fight.
We were all just drinking, having a good time in the backyard, and the guy who thought it was a little more serious grabbed us.
Fuck!
Thankfully, dude didn't get hurt too bad.
Just was sort of bleeding from the face a bit.
But it was super fucked up.
It was like you disproportionately responded.
That's what a lot of people do.
People who have really bad fear control mechanisms.
Right.
unidentified
People who think they're victims at every point in their life.
dan friesen
They are going to respond way more aggressively than they need to.
And Alex Jones, I have to believe, literally just said that's what he did.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't believe this person was bashing his head into the ground.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
Now, if you talk to my friend who hit the other guy with the bottle...
I'm sure his version of it would be, he was going to break my arm, or something like that.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Because you have to.
You have to justify.
Because I don't think that the guy, like my friend who hit the other friend with the bottle, is necessarily a super violent bad guy.
He's just not in control of his panic mechanism.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And when someone acts out of their own principles and acts based on panic, often you do fucked up things.
And you want a justification for it.
You want to be like...
Oh, yeah, he was going to break my arm, so I had to respond.
This guy was going to kill me.
I had to hit him with a brick.
jordan holmes
It is an interesting thing to know that we still have that fucking ape limbic system.
dan friesen
Well, think about this.
My house burned down.
jordan holmes
And yet we have consciousness wherein we have to then rationalize this behavior that's ultimately just survival instincts ingrained into us for millions of years.
dan friesen
Well, like five years ago, my house burned down, and I just ran out of the building.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And as soon as I got out, I was in fucking huge shock.
I was terrified.
And I immediately realized that I didn't knock on anyone's door.
Thankfully, everyone got out okay, but I realized, like, that was fucked up of me.
I didn't warn anybody.
jordan holmes
Some people want to be the hero?
dan friesen
The difference is that my immediate response wasn't to make an excuse for myself.
It was to wrestle with, I did not respond to that well.
I could have taken a second and realized, I don't have to run out of here.
There's minutes left where I can act responsibly.
jordan holmes
But your fight or flight system went, fuck!
This!
unidentified
Exactly!
dan friesen
My lizard brain was just like, get out, get out.
jordan holmes
No, fire!
Bye!
dan friesen
I saw the huge wall of flames and it's like, not a fucking chance.
And that's what people do.
And it sucks that people have to make excuses for it.
And it sucks that Alex's excuses weave into his bizarre, stupid arguments.
About masculinity and shit.
jordan holmes
Every time he reveals the slightest thing about his childhood, everything else starts to make way more sense.
dan friesen
Totally.
That's why Megan's gotta ask those questions.
jordan holmes
Oh, man!
God!
Why is anybody talking to Alex Jones about what he thinks now?
I want to know what happened to him.
dan friesen
We know what happened to him.
jordan holmes
Well, we don't know enough.
I want to know the whole story.
There needs to be a full...
Investigative biography of Alex Jones.
dan friesen
You can find the work in progress at knowledgefight.com.
So we got one more clip before the clip that ended up me turning off the episode.
This one, he starts by talking about how Hillary Clinton is a joke and then just does some more slow strokes at the camera people that are there and weaves it somehow into white genocide.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
alex jones
Lady.
unidentified
Lady.
jordan holmes
Lady?
dan friesen
You're a joke.
jordan holmes
He's talking directly to...
alex jones
I was offered a million dollars, three million dollars, ten million dollars.
jordan holmes
Twenty million dollars.
alex jones
Which is nothing.
jordan holmes
Fifty million dollars.
alex jones
Over a decade ago, in repeated offers to go be the next Rush Limbaugh, they told me the whole plan, basically.
dan friesen
He's telling this to the NBC camera crew.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
He's being like, they wanted me.
They wanted me.
jordan holmes
You could have been working for me, not for Megyn Kelly.
This could have been me.
I'm too good for you, staffer who's being paid $30,000 a year who doesn't give a fuck.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I'm sure those people are fucking holding in laughs.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, one time, me and my buddies got high and went to, like, a Christian haunted house.
You know, they have, like, the plays that you have to go through the rooms.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And in one of the rooms, they had tape on the floor, and the scene was this guy realizing that his kid died in a car accident.
The whole story of the haunted house is he has two kids.
Actually, both kids died.
One of them goes to heaven, one goes to hell, because one accepted Jesus.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so the scene where, like, my weed high is peaking.
I'm so high.
The scene is that the dad realizes both of his kids are dead in a hospital room.
Falls to his knees and is like, why, God?
But he's so close to that tape line on the ground.
He's so close to us.
And the whole time I'm just grabbing my friend's shoulder.
Oh, God, I can't laugh.
That would be so rude.
That's what the cameramen are doing.
They're like, holy shit.
This guy's losing it.
Anyway, back to the clip.
He could have been Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes
He could have been Glenn Beck.
Could have been Megan Kelly.
alex jones
To be Glenn Beck before.
I said no, and they went in a year and had Glenn Beck ready.
And they went and had him study me to be the new Alex Jones.
That's why he hates me so much.
Think of the level of these people.
Oh, guess what?
You failed.
You didn't stop anything.
In fact, your counterfeit only brought more people to me.
It's like the invasion of the body snatchers.
You didn't get the transfer done on time.
Didn't go the way you wanted it to go, did it?
And the reason I make it about Alex Jones is that they've made it about me and they think that they're having a referendum on news and nationalism and information on me.
And they think the fact that I'm real, they think the fact that I don't back down, that I tell it like it is, is some form of weakness.
It's my strength!
And it's your strength to not care what they think or care what they say.
They're so radical in Hollywood that they want to teach.
Elementary students about being different sexes.
I mean, if parents did that, you'd say they were mentally ill or trying to screw their kid up.
But if the government does it, it's okay.
I've got stacks of news here where they're teaching at universities that being white is inherently evil and that white genocide is needed.
I'm not even looking for these stories.
I've got...
I didn't even go through all my stacks today!
dan friesen
So the last thing there that's super fun is...
jordan holmes
I'm not even looking for these stories.
dan friesen
And he says, I haven't even gone through these stories.
I'm about to report on stuff I haven't read.
But thankfully he doesn't get to those stories.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
There aren't any stories for him to get through.
dan friesen
Hey, Alex Jones.
Also, government's not trying to make people trans.
But enjoy that narrative.
Also, all that stuff about the white genocide on campus.
It's all...
Equally bullshit to this day of blah blah blah.
jordan holmes
I think the best way to get people on board with a white genocide is to have them listen to Alex Jones' show.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And then you'd be like, yeah.
I think we're good.
I think we've had enough white people.
dan friesen
The recipe for white genocide is learn history.
And then listen to Alex Jones.
And be like, this guy hasn't learned.
He doesn't know shit about what's happened to minorities.
He has no idea about the matrix of oppression.
He has no fucking idea at all.
He has no idea about societal power and the differences between different groups.
He has no fucking idea.
And all the information is there.
All of it is at his fingertips.
He could learn, but because he's so into being white, he won't.
That's the best argument possible.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You've got me on board.
If you'd like to become a white genocider, please go to knowledge.com.
dan friesen
A white genocide wonk.
20 bucks a month.
jordan holmes
And a scalp.
dan friesen
So this last clip where I ended up turning off the episode was he's been having this guy on a lot lately.
There's this guy named Tommy Robinson who's a British guy who works for the Rebel.
Works for Rebel Media.
And he gives dispatches a ton to Alex Jones about how Muslims are overrunning England.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
And what have you.
This report he was doing was about how there is a terrorist who's housed near a school.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And so he doesn't really prove anything.
He doesn't...
All he is is standing outside a school.
And I don't know if a terrorist lives down the block.
I have no idea.
I don't understand the situation.
He doesn't really...
He says things, but there's no evidence of anything.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
In true Infowars slash rebel media fashion.
dan friesen
So he's screaming about...
I'm not screaming about it.
He's much more controlled than Alex.
But he gets into...
He's saying that London needs to do more about ISIS folk.
But...
jordan holmes
ISIS folk?
dan friesen
ISIS people?
People who sympathize with ISIS?
jordan holmes
Come on, man.
dan friesen
You know what you mean.
jordan holmes
Just say it.
dan friesen
That's the problem.
jordan holmes
Just say it.
Don't be a dick.
We've already proven with Trump that if you just say it, you're probably going to get more people to like you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is harshly dog-whistling and harshly...
Conflating all Muslims with people who do horrible things.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And you'll see probably why I was just like, I'm done.
I'm done with this episode.
unidentified
I don't know how much more you think as a government English men are going to tolerate.
When their children are being blown up, it sort of steps it up to the next level.
At some point in the future, you're going to create a monster.
You're going to create a monster because you need to intern these men.
You need to take them off our streets.
You need to protect our people.
You need to protect our children.
Which you're failing at.
jordan holmes
White people.
unidentified
You're failing at.
And when people can no longer rely on the police, when they can no longer rely on the government or the system, people will endeavor to seek their own justice.
alex jones
The full video is on Rebel Media.
It's on Infowars.
Tommy Robinson's on fire.
Absolute veritas.
True from the heart.
That's teleprompter free.
That's strength.
That's truth.
And that is our salvation.
Being honest about the cancer we brought into our midst.
And why would the elite do this?
dan friesen
So...
Wow!
jordan holmes
He was not...
For a British person, that was pretty much the level of Alex Jones's...
dan friesen
That was on fire.
jordan holmes
That was on fire.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I mean, just the...
You've got to get these people off our streets.
jordan holmes
You've got to intern them.
You've got to intern them.
He even said intern.
That is a wonderful white way of saying, put everybody who's not white in jail.
dan friesen
Or put them in camps.
jordan holmes
Take all of their stuff and put them in camps.
dan friesen
The history of internment camps has never been people who are guilty of anything.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
It's always been for large populations that you need to separate.
So when he starts using language...
jordan holmes
Which, once again, America should also pay reparations to the Japanese people whose property and everything that they fucking stole.
dan friesen
Totally.
But when you start using that language, especially in concert with language like, you're not protecting our people, our children.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's so...
jordan holmes
White.
White.
dan friesen
It's so hard of a dog whistle.
jordan holmes
White people.
dan friesen
It's over-the-top bigotry.
And the fact that Alex Jones comes back and he's like, that's Veritas.
That will be our salvation.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's too much to take.
It's too racist.
I can't handle it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not dog whistling.
dan friesen
And it's boring.
It's boring racism.
It's so stupid.
Like, the stuff where he's talking about...
Crazy globalist plots and what have you is kind of boring because it's repetitive and he says it all the time.
But this is just...
It's the banality of evil.
It's so boring.
jordan holmes
We need to imprison people who aren't white.
That's what he said.
That's his point.
dan friesen
That's what he's trying to say.
He's not talking about the Chinese or anything like that.
jordan holmes
Which fucking...
But that's the fucking thing about...
dan friesen
He's saying all Arabs, basically.
jordan holmes
That's the thing about racism.
That these people somehow never fucking get.
It doesn't end.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
It's Muslims now.
What if they did it?
dan friesen
The internal?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What if they internal?
Who's next?
It's always going to be some outside enemy.
There's no end to it.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
The end to racism is not, you know...
Fucking ending a race.
dan friesen
No, because then what you do is eventually you'll start going inward and you'll start being like brunettes.
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
There's no end to this bullshit.
dan friesen
You're right, because it's not about the target.
It's about the behavior.
It's about the mentality.
It's the othering and all that stuff.
It's not about the fact that there are some Muslims who commit violent crimes.
It's about fear of other.
jordan holmes
Before white people had other races, they had different religions.
unidentified
They had Irish.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They had, you know, Jews.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Or Catholics or Protestants.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
I mean, fucking look at the IRA and the horror.
And there's no...
Believe me, I'm not against the IRA.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
I'm against the way that they went about it.
dan friesen
I'm going to recuse myself here.
jordan holmes
Well, that's crazy.
I'm going to walk that one back.
Am I?
No, the point being, you put a shit ton of pressure on people, just like we're talking about with the fight or flight response.
The same exact shit.
If you put enough pressure on people...
People are gonna break.
And those broken people are going to commit violence.
That's what's happening.
And this, and I would, I mean, it's just happening too fast for these old fucking white people.
They just need to go away.
They just need to be gone.
That's the only, because, and that's their way, like, that's the only way to understand what they're dealing with.
Because it's a different type of pressure.
But it is that pressure that they feel that what they are used to is going away.
And you put that kind of pressure on enough people, people are going to break.
That's what's going on.
Their issue is that they can't accept a world changing.
And that's a big problem for fucking humanity since the beginning.
dan friesen
Sure.
And that's why they're breaking.
jordan holmes
That's why they're breaking.
They can't.
They can't change.
What else do you do with these people other than put them in a fucking camp?
dan friesen
Let them sell weird pills?
unidentified
All white people intern them.
jordan holmes
I think it's a good idea.
Steal their property.
Take their Second Amendment rights away.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
No more free market.
I'm sick of prosperity.
What we need to do is...
dan friesen
That's because you're a beta libtard.
jordan holmes
We need to bring back the technocracy.
We need to commit white genocide.
We need to...
What else does he rail about?
I don't know.
unidentified
Except...
Dracula?
jordan holmes
Yeah, we need to bring back Dracula.
No, fucking accept people.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess that's the message.
jordan holmes
People are people, man!
Just fucking get it!
dan friesen
And when you say that, you're not saying, hey, people who kill people with trucks and knives are cool!
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
That's not what anyone is saying when they say accept people.
That's not what it is at all.
That's a fucking crime.
You're murdering people.
That's awful.
jordan holmes
There's a reason we have to have laws, apparently.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Because somehow, at one point...
We're so stupid, somebody had to tell us not to murder.
dan friesen
Right.
Hammurabi.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
An eye for an eye leaves everybody with all the eyes.
dan friesen
Hammurabi, the greatest pillar of white history.
So anyway, if you'd like to check us out, we are at knowledgefight.com.
Hopefully the next episode will not be as rant heavy.
I didn't know what to do with that.
I apologize that it was kind of long clips.
jordan holmes
Or is racist heavy?
dan friesen
Yeah, but...
jordan holmes
Wait, no, I don't think we're going to escape that one.
dan friesen
No, that's going to be consistent.
But also, you can follow us on Twitter, at knowledge underscore fight.
jordan holmes
Look us up on iTunes, spread the word, leave a review.
It'd be cool if more people found us.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, there are algorithms on iTunes where it's like the more reviews and likes and shit you get, the more they put you up at the front page.
dan friesen
And each one teach one.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
That's what we gotta do.
jordan holmes
And if you tell two friends?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And they tell two friends?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
And they tell two friends?
dan friesen
Now's a good time to remind everyone that InfoWars, anytime you want to start to think that they're a legitimate news outlet, please remember that they have a pyramid scheme called the InfoWars team.
What?
It's one of those direct marketing programs.
You just buy a bunch of product and sell it to your friends.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
You get discounts if you buy huge bulk amounts.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But it's the exact same thing as all of those.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, congratulations.
jordan holmes
Team national!
dan friesen
Yep.
Anyway, Jordan?
jordan holmes
What is one thing that we can take away as a positive?
dan friesen
Well, I know that the Paris Agreement is dead.
jordan holmes
The Paris Agreement is dead.
dan friesen
But one thing is still alive.
And that is...
unidentified
Rappaport!
dan friesen
He still lives.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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