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#48: May 31, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan about what happened on the May 31st episode of The Alex Jones Show. Topics include: Is Alex in the midst of a manic episode? Is using the homeless as walking billboards a good idea? In what polls are Trump's numbers going up? Alex has a new shirt he's really excited about

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
15:05
d
dan friesen
52:26
j
jordan holmes
33:16
Appearances
m
mike cernovich
03:17
Clips
r
roger stone
00:14
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple of dudes who sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk about the life and times of...
The good hobo Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Hobo Jones hopefully will make a swift return to the podcast.
dan friesen
He is in full effect today.
jordan holmes
Oh, hobo's come to visit?
dan friesen
We're going to get to it.
Speaking of things that we're going to get to, what do we got for our weird beverage today, Jordan?
jordan holmes
We have sangria signorial.
dan friesen
This is a non-alcoholic sparkling sangria, which I am dreading.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, this cannot be good.
You are taking your first sip, and we have...
dan friesen
It's not good.
jordan holmes
I thought there was a surprise.
You were like, nope, terrible.
dan friesen
No, the surprise is it's not undrinkable.
It's pleasant.
It's pleasant, is what I would say.
Speaking of things that are pleasant, I'd like to give a shout out to our...
jordan holmes
Disagree so much.
Disagree so hard.
This tastes awful.
dan friesen
I think it's...
jordan holmes
This is garbage.
dan friesen
It's neutral.
As long as it's not neutral is my feelings about our new donator.
What's up, David?
How you doing out there?
alex jones
I'm a policy wonk.
dan friesen
Thank you for donating.
jordan holmes
And I don't know anything about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
I know a ton about it.
That's the conceit of the show.
If you're listening, thank you.
If this is your first time, welcome.
jordan holmes
And thank you very much, David, for joining the Policywonk fold.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
We're going to get to our episode for today, but before we do, I'm going to get to our Out of Context drop.
alex jones
I'm not doing the interview because she's a pretty girl.
I'm doing it because I can't be a wimp and turn it down.
jordan holmes
What is it?
dan friesen
It's Out of Context.
Who knows?
So, at the end of the episode that we're going to be going over today...
jordan holmes
I like that those two things are in direct opposition to each other.
dan friesen
It's not because she's a pretty gay!
jordan holmes
No, no, no!
dan friesen
You want to know what that's about?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
On the May 31st episode, which is what we're going to be going over today...
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
At the end of it, we learn...
That Alex Jones is about to do an interview with Megyn Kelly.
jordan holmes
Oh, and it's not just because she's a pretty girl.
dan friesen
He has called her horrible names in the past.
jordan holmes
Yeah, considering all of the horrible things he said about her and parents.
dan friesen
Mostly about her appearance.
jordan holmes
Almost entirely about her appearance.
dan friesen
She thinks she's too ugly for Fox.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's right.
I remember.
No, no, no.
Her friends said that.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's right.
jordan holmes
Her friends said that.
dan friesen
She probably tells her friends.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So, yeah, Alex Jones has been going on this long thing for months now about how, like, I'm not doing any more interviews unless they're live, unless I have control over the edit, and then now he's sitting down with Roger Stone on this episode today, and he's like, I know they can edit it, they can make it say whatever they want, but I'm gonna do it.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
You puss!
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Alex Jones is the worst.
jordan holmes
Look, national TV is not bad, man.
dan friesen
It is if you claim that your principles are against being on people's shows for no reason.
And if you argue that, hey, they're a dying media.
I reach 50 million people a week.
jordan holmes
Hey, any press...
dan friesen
Bullshit.
jordan holmes
...is hypocritical press.
I think that's the meaning of that.
dan friesen
So we're going over May 31st.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That is the Wednesday show here this week.
We're back into the present after we have been embarking on our investigation the last couple episodes.
Hope you guys have enjoyed that.
We'll get back to that soon.
But now we're back in the present.
jordan holmes
Unfortunately.
To all of our great chagrin.
dan friesen
If you recall, last week, the end of last week, on Thursday, Alex Jones dropped that Jerome Corsi, his Washington Bureau chief...
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right!
Did Corsi die over the weekend?
dan friesen
He survived, my friend.
unidentified
He survived?
Fuck!
dan friesen
Sorry.
Sorry to drop that news on you.
He survived the weekend.
And the reason that that is surprising to some people is that on Thursday, Alex had said he had found information that was bigger than Watergate and probably would get him killed.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
So this must be just a bombshell.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Like, is there a reason I didn't read about this bigger than Watergate scandal on Twitter?
dan friesen
You're on the wrong Twitter.
jordan holmes
Way on the wrong Twitter.
CNN?
Is that alt-right now?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
What isn't alt-right at this point?
dan friesen
Just us.
Just you, me, and my cat.
jordan holmes
And all you policy wonks out there.
dan friesen
Thank you for not being alt-right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
If any of you are Proud Boys, please do.
Just go away.
dan friesen
Punch yourself for us.
jordan holmes
Just go away, yes.
dan friesen
So, Tuesday comes around.
They didn't have a show on Monday because it's Memorial Day.
Actually, what they did do is something I've never seen them do before.
Alex put together like an eight-hour best of.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Which, uh...
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Yeah, it kind of gives you the sense...
unidentified
How can...
jordan holmes
A best of what?
dan friesen
I don't even...
I don't even...
I didn't watch it.
I just saw it existed.
I wasn't going to watch that shit.
jordan holmes
A best of news stories?
A best of...
dan friesen
Alex's rants?
jordan holmes
Yeah, what could it possibly...
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
It's actually just the same still that you tweeted out for eight hours.
Just him with a big-ass gun on YouTube.
dan friesen
It's that gun picture for an hour, then an hour of Rappaport, then back to the gun picture.
Back to Rappaport.
I don't know.
I didn't watch it.
Never will.
But Tuesday comes around.
And I'm like, holy shit.
We're about to find out what Corsi knows.
jordan holmes
What he could have died over.
dan friesen
So the show starts at 11 o 'clock.
And when I'm at work, I listen to it live because it's really funny how Alex Jones comes in and out of commercials singing.
And they cut that out of the rebroadcast.
And I enjoy it, so I listen live.
And I tune in at 11 o 'clock.
Show hasn't started.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
It's streaming live, but it hasn't.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
The show is streaming, but there is no show.
jordan holmes
There's nobody there?
dan friesen
It's just commercials.
jordan holmes
Nobody's even talking?
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
It's just commercials and special reports.
And then every now and again, the announcer voice would come in and be like, he's standing up for the truth.
Your host, Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
And then Alex Jones would show up.
dan friesen
Another commercial.
jordan holmes
Okay, well that's weird.
dan friesen
It went 34 minutes.
With nothing.
I'm like, what the fuck is going on?
To the point where I was pretty sure Alex faked his own death.
jordan holmes
God, what a great fucking story.
dan friesen
I thought that that was what had happened.
It turns out, we find out later, Alex insinuated on the Wednesday show that on Tuesday he was in court.
And he won some big victory about his custody battle.
jordan holmes
Ah, okay.
dan friesen
There's no news about it, and he claims it's because it was so good for him that no one wants to report it.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
But I can't find any information about it, so we're not going to talk about it.
Sure.
34 minutes in, Roger Stone shows up.
And like a substitute teacher, he just plays videos the entire time.
It's just like, ah, well, we got a nice report here from John Bowne.
Let's go to it.
jordan holmes
So you're telling me that Alex Jones apparently was in court on Tuesday.
dan friesen
Apparently.
jordan holmes
But no one knew about this?
dan friesen
For that 34 minutes.
jordan holmes
So they planned nothing.
No.
They were just all sitting.
Rob Dew is sitting behind the ones and twos.
dan friesen
It was a hot pile of nothing.
jordan holmes
Just going like...
Where the fuck is Alex?
dan friesen
And court is not something that jumps out at you.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
You know about it ahead of time.
unidentified
Way ahead of time.
dan friesen
So why would Alex plan to have this big reveal of Jerome Corsi's information on the day he knows he's going to be in court?
That's such a setup.
It's such bullshit.
jordan holmes
It's wonderful.
dan friesen
It's so fake.
unidentified
Because it takes him off the hook.
jordan holmes
He wasn't even there.
Right, but that's part of- Corsi was supposed to have the information.
dan friesen
Corsi did show up.
jordan holmes
Corsi did.
dan friesen
They had him on Skype.
And he had no new information.
unidentified
None.
dan friesen
It was just, Seth Rich has been murdered.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
He didn't have the other two bombshells that Alex promised.
It was nothing.
It was absolutely nothing.
Roger Stone interviewed him poorly.
And then, the craziest thing in the world happened.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
For a good half hour of the show, which is, mind you, supposed to be the one that you're going to tune into to get the bombshells.
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
Roger Stone interviews Rick Derringer.
Rock and roll living legend Rick Derringer.
Do you know who that is?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
He wrote the theme song.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
He wrote Hulk Hogan's theme song.
jordan holmes
No.
What?
unidentified
What?
He wrote, I am a real American.
jordan holmes
But if he's there...
One!
Who is following Hulk Hogan around playing that song?
Which I assume is his only job.
dan friesen
I don't think Hulk Hogan's getting in the ring anymore.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, no.
After Hulk Hogan got the Gawker settlement, he pays Derringer to follow behind him with a guitar.
dan friesen
From the interview, I gleaned that Rick Derringer is very bitter that it's Hulk Hogan's theme song.
He deserves respect.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, he doesn't.
dan friesen
And the fact that he is most famous for a pro wrestler's theme song, very bitter.
Very better.
jordan holmes
But why on Infowars?
dan friesen
Here's why.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Rick Derringer.
jordan holmes
There's a reason.
dan friesen
Rick Derringer.
jordan holmes
Does he believe the earth is flat or some shit like that?
dan friesen
I wish.
That would be more interesting.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Rick Derringer claims to have read in the newspaper that Barack Obama.
jordan holmes
He claims to have read a newspaper.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
This is.
dan friesen
That's part one.
jordan holmes
This is his source?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
So we have.
An imaginary newspaper.
dan friesen
Do you remember when Barack Obama and Donald Trump had a meeting right after Trump won the election?
jordan holmes
I do.
It was very bittersweet for all of us.
dan friesen
Rick Derringer says that he read that part of the meeting was Barack Obama sassing Donald Trump for using the Real American song because Barack Obama felt some sort of a claim to it because he had used it on a campaign before.
I don't know if this happened.
I don't care to look into it.
jordan holmes
What newspaper?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Also, of all the presidents who would be that petty, why would it go that direction?
dan friesen
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
I imagine Trump was sassing Obama about using that song eight years ago.
dan friesen
Probably on Twitter.
We could look.
So, Rick Derringer hears this news.
jordan holmes
But why is Rick Derringer...
Rick Derringer doing this!
dan friesen
It gets worse.
Rick Derringer hears this news, and he's like, I cannot let this stand.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Barack Obama is so mouthy.
So what he decides to do...
jordan holmes
He did not say mouthy.
dan friesen
He didn't.
I'm putting words in his mouthy.
So what he decides to do is he decides he's going to write a new version of Real American just for Trump.
So the next time Trump meets with Barack Obama, he can be like, I got my own version.
jordan holmes
Derringer is broke.
That is the correct answer to that.
Derringer wants licensing fees.
dan friesen
Clearly.
jordan holmes
Somebody give Derringer licensing fees.
dan friesen
Clearly a lunatic.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, they play the music video for his new version, and it starts with him and some other guy in a car talking about birth certificates.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
So, you know, that's where we're starting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So they play the song.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, as expected.
dan friesen
They play the song.
Roger Stone is talking about how great a song it is.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
dan friesen
Seriously.
jordan holmes
Why is this real?
dan friesen
I was freaking out.
jordan holmes
What must you have felt like?
Is this an alternate universe?
dan friesen
I sincerely thought it might be like, is this an episode from six months ago?
They're just replaying?
unidentified
It can't be the big bombshell episode.
jordan holmes
Is it an episode from the late 80s when Hogan was still popular?
dan friesen
Yeah, when people believed the big boot to the face was a devastating move.
jordan holmes
It was a devastating move.
dan friesen
Rick Derringer starts talking about how he cried when he wrote that song, and I'm just like, wow, this is great.
Rick had brought a producer friend with him who directed a documentary.
jordan holmes
I refuse to believe any of this is real.
dan friesen
He made a documentary.
jordan holmes
You had a dream.
You've been listening to so much Alex Jones, you've now started to dream.
dan friesen
This was my six-hour dream.
jordan holmes
It's like if you absorb yourself in a language, you start to dream in that language.
dan friesen
So he brought a producer friend along.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And this guy made a documentary about how if you really look at the Bible, it predicted Trump.
Yeah.
We're gonna have to watch that documentary.
Yeah, we're watching that documentary.
jordan holmes
I mean, one, the Bible predicted a lot of things.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
And the ones that come in a lot of their predictions that mirror Trump's rise are not good.
dan friesen
They're dark.
jordan holmes
They're very dark.
dan friesen
So, not to be outdone by these two...
Very, you know, soft interviews.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Roger Stone goes on to interview Rick Derringer's wife, who is also along in the studio, and I have a clip from that.
Here, just, we'll get back.
We'll get back to it.
jordan holmes
It's an interview?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
With Rick Derringer's wife?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Who, to her credits, is Rick Derringer's wife.
dan friesen
She might be a musician in her own right.
I'm not entirely sure what her deal is.
But anyway, listen to this.
unidentified
Jenda, welcome to InfoWars.
Thank you very much.
roger stone
We are so happy to have you here in the studio.
unidentified
So, tell us your take on the real American.
You've got to be very, very proud.
jordan holmes
What is happening?
unidentified
Well, it sounded 280s to me, so I told Rick.
And from then on, he said it's 280s.
And then I came up with the idea of having Space Odyssey come in first before.
The song, and it did come in just right, and our drummer said, yes, this sounds really good this way.
And so it also exits with that same Space Odyssey 2001.
roger stone
Well, it's one of those songs that I find, once you've listened to it once, it just revolves around your head.
alex jones
I find myself humming it while I'm driving.
I keep thinking about it.
roger stone
It's got that kind of catchy riff to it.
dan friesen
That's why it's a good pro-wrestling theme song.
jordan holmes
So wait, Rick Derringer's wife is claiming that she is the reason that it's a popular song.
dan friesen
She came up with the Spake Zarathustra beginning, like the 2001 Space Odyssey sound.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
She made it up.
dan friesen
Which, by the way, is very 80s.
You're trying to update a song for being too 80s and you throw in 2001 Space Odyssey?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I don't understand what you're talking about.
dan friesen
I don't do.
jordan holmes
I don't see the problem.
Now it's exactly the right amount of things.
dan friesen
Listen, I'm not a Derringer over here.
jordan holmes
Look.
dan friesen
I got a Derringer in my boot.
It's a gun.
It's a tiny gun you can keep in your boot.
jordan holmes
Oh.
I know.
dan friesen
Second Amendment.
unidentified
From my feet.
dan friesen
So, the Tuesday show was a completely bizarre...
It was hallucinogenic.
jordan holmes
Yes.
That's insane.
dan friesen
Because what happened is...
Last week, I forgot his name for a second, Jerome Corsi came on the show and talked about how he wanted to start a propaganda campaign.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He wanted a new meme in order to fight the false, the quote, false Russian narrative.
The Russia collusion that he called a meme as well.
jordan holmes
Propaganda on propaganda action.
dan friesen
From their perspective.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So the first propaganda game that they played was this Jerome Corsi Is gonna get killed this weekend because we have such big news.
Then Alex isn't even in studio.
They do this horse shit on the Tuesday show.
Pretend that they never said the stuff that they said on Thursday.
They just rely on people forgetting that they pretended Jerome Corsi's life was in danger.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They never...
jordan holmes
Well, that's why you can't have Alex in there.
Because if Alex talks to Jerome Corsi, eventually Alex is going to get really pissed off because Corsi has nothing.
dan friesen
I'm gonna guess that that's the case.
And from everything I can tell, the stories that we speculated were what he was talking about, it appears that those are what his news were.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Those are the stories that are picking up on the right-wing sites and Reddit and stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we didn't get any House representatives leaving the country.
No, did not.
dan friesen
So we get to Wednesday, the 31st.
Alex is back in studio.
unidentified
They did say they had a dead drop, though.
jordan holmes
I want to find that dead drop.
Now, we know it doesn't exist.
dan friesen
The dead drop was the person.
The person in Congress.
jordan holmes
Oh, that was the person.
Oh, come on.
I wanted underneath a rock in a park bench in D.C. or something like that.
dan friesen
I wish it was some good spycraft shit, but it's unfortunately not.
So, we get to Wednesday, and we find that Alex Jones is back in studio.
And they have decided to ignore Thursday.
Ignore the entire Corsi plotline that they were trying to go with and start an entirely new mem, as it were.
jordan holmes
So Corsi came back yesterday, or Tuesday, and talked his shit.
dan friesen
Shit the bed.
jordan holmes
Yes.
And then, does he come back?
dan friesen
He's not on this episode.
jordan holmes
He's not on Wednesday.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
So he's just, they're just like...
unidentified
Bye-bye-bye.
dan friesen
We got Roger Stone on this episode on Wednesday.
We got Owen Schroyer sitting in for a little bit, but we won't have to listen to him.
jordan holmes
Good.
dan friesen
And we got the big baby Mike Cernovich.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
Mike Cernovich plays very heavily into this episode.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
So they have decided that they have a new narrative that they're going to go off on.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And they think this is lightning in a bottle.
And it's worth ignoring the idea that Jerome Corsi literally had information that would blow up the globalists' game.
jordan holmes
Right.
That could get him killed.
dan friesen
He had.
jordan holmes
So is their new storyline so amazing that it could get them all killed?
dan friesen
No, no.
But we need to take a second before we get into this utter bullshit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Like, Jerome Corsi, the way they presented it...
He had the information that would be the culmination of Alex Jones' 20-year career.
This would be what blows the lid off the globalists.
They can't deny it, so they're going to have to kill Jerome Corsi.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
They have ignored that entirely.
jordan holmes
Completely.
dan friesen
Totally.
And it's not like Jerome Corsi wasn't there.
He was there.
He could have said whatever he wanted.
He had clearance on Tuesday to give out all the information.
jordan holmes
Supposedly.
dan friesen
Yeah, of course.
I mean, I'm going within their reality.
jordan holmes
Yeah, within their reality.
Okay.
dan friesen
So here's what they do on Wednesday.
And it's a pivot.
It's a hard pivot.
jordan holmes
Right.
Now, theory.
The globalists got to him.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
The globalists got to him.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
They got to Corsi and they were like, man, you can't release this information.
They gave Corsi the godfather offer, right?
So now Corsi is...
unidentified
He had a fish person's head in his bed?
jordan holmes
Yes, exactly.
dan friesen
Go ahead, I'm sorry.
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter now.
Nothing's going to beat that.
dan friesen
All right, so let's move on.
Let's see what they were doing on Wednesday.
Here's literally how the show starts.
unidentified
The answer to 1984 is 1776.
You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.
alex jones
There are those moments in history when people do jump the shark at the perfect tipping point.
America and the world was sick of all the attacks on Trump.
They were seeing through them.
I was telling people just last week that we'd reached the tipping point.
And then Kathy Griffin comes out like an ISIS sympathizer and basically protests.
I don't care.
I don't care.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
I don't care.
I can't begin to describe how hard I don't care about Kathy Griffin holding up a severed Trump head.
I don't give a shit.
I couldn't care less.
I hope I don't care.
I just don't.
I don't know why people are talking about this.
Who cares?
dan friesen
No one cares.
jordan holmes
It's Kathy Griffin.
unidentified
Who gives a shit?
jordan holmes
Why am I seeing people on all the sites?
It's like, look, liberals condemn this action too.
How about I don't care?
dan friesen
No, I would say from the people that I listen to and I respect.
I would say it's been about 90% who gives a fuck, but not who gives a fuck in a dismissive way like, yeah, she should be, you know, she's cool to do that.
It's more, come on, it's fucking Kathy Griffin.
No one likes her.
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
No one cares.
dan friesen
No one cares.
She's irrelevant and she's just doing some shocking thing for attention.
Obviously, and everyone has either been on that side or the left people that I've heard have been like, That's ridiculous.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
No one has been like, yeah, alright.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So Alex Jones is operating on a couple of really...
jordan holmes
Actually, you know what?
I'm going to take a hard stance here.
Yeah, alright.
I'm for it.
I don't give a shit.
I'm for it.
I don't fucking care.
dan friesen
Okay, so now you're the person who Alex wants to talk to.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Alex is operating with a couple of flawed premises.
The first is that Kathy Griffin is super relevant, which is not true.
jordan holmes
Has that ever been true?
I love Kathy Griffin's career.
It's been amazing.
She's been able to get to this level of fame where enough people recognize her.
dan friesen
15 years ago, she had a show called My Life on the D-List.
And that's been 15 years.
All she does is do the New Year's Eve with Ryan Seacrest.
That's it.
And not anymore.
jordan holmes
She tried to...
Step into the Joan Rivers role and it was not something she could do.
dan friesen
Here's the second flawed premise that Alex is operating under.
Anyone is going to defend Kathy Graham.
Because he thinks that this is going to be the biggest deal in the world.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Little does he know, by the time he starts broadcasting...
She had already been fired.
CNN had already fired her from her New Year's Eve game.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Yeah, of course.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
You can't do shit like that.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's bad for business.
It's bad for the brand.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
There's a reason that O 'Reilly's gone.
dan friesen
Right.
Well, way worse things.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, wait.
Is that yet another reason why I don't care about what Kathy Griffin did?
Yes, it is.
dan friesen
So, anyway, Alex is going to go on a very interesting journey with this Kathy Griffin ship throughout this episode.
And if it was just, like, I'm mad about Kathy Griffin, I would be like, let's not do this episode.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I wouldn't be into that.
It would be like, eh, this is pointless.
jordan holmes
It would be very boring because I would just go on a lot of rants explaining how I don't care and neither should anybody else.
dan friesen
But it's important because of the way he does it.
This is...
The next distraction meme.
This is the Jerome Corsi branded take attention away from Russia stuff.
jordan holmes
Right.
And the fact that Corsi had nothing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And snake eyes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Hey, sorry boss.
I fucking blew it.
I get it.
I'm boring.
Go hang out with Cernovich.
unidentified
I get it.
I get it.
dan friesen
So here's Alex's next thing.
This is the problem that the globalists and the liberals have.
He's going to present it here in this next clip.
alex jones
Last week, I said this on air, but I've also privately talked a lot about it to friends and family and crew.
The whole Russia narrative, the whole Trump's a racist narrative, the whole Trump is evil, misogynist narrative is imploding.
Despite all the push-pulls and all the spin and all the deception, Trump is going up in scientific polls.
And the establishment is panicking.
They've hit him with everything they've got.
They have committed so many.
Just absolutely massive, massive, massive, massive distortions and lies.
jordan holmes
Massive, massive.
alex jones
That they are now discredited.
And they've committed so much illegal leaking that it's now a gigantic criminal scandal and they're being exposed and caught.
They're painted into a corner.
dan friesen
So about the Russian stuff, Comey is going to testify next week.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That better be good.
dan friesen
I think it will be.
jordan holmes
That better be enough to get Corsi killed.
dan friesen
You know the reason why he hasn't yet?
The reason why he said he couldn't testify in open court?
jordan holmes
Legal protection?
dan friesen
Yeah.
He had to get clearance in order to say the things that he's going to say.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
From all sources that have discussed it, he's going to discuss the obstruction stuff.
He can't talk about the ongoing investigation stuff, but his experience with Trump obstructing his investigation...
He got the green light just yesterday to talk about it.
unidentified
From who?
dan friesen
From Mueller, the special investigator.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The two of them have been having meetings, and apparently that's what's been holding it up.
And that's why he was supposed to go into June before he would be able to testify, and it turns out early June.
So by next week, he's supposed to be in front of the House Intelligence Committee, and he's got the green light.
jordan holmes
I just don't trust anything anymore.
dan friesen
I don't either.
jordan holmes
I just don't.
There's just...
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It seems like they're impenetrable.
dan friesen
It's stupid to get excited about anything, and what will be, will be, and we'll see.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But the idea that Trump is surging in the polls is insane.
Right now, he sits at a 54.8 disapproval rating when you gauge all of the polls combined and average.
jordan holmes
538 style.
dan friesen
Yeah, 39.1 approval rating.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's bad.
dan friesen
54.8% disapproval.
The only poll that he's going up in is the calls for impeachment.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say he's at like 43% now.
dan friesen
53%.
Oh, sorry, 43%.
jordan holmes
Yeah, 43%.
dan friesen
Up from 38% last week.
So 5% jump in a week of people who want impeachment to begin.
jordan holmes
He should be gone.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
It should already be over.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Why are we still doing this?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Guys, let's stop torturing ourselves.
dan friesen
Yeah, just pull off that bandaid.
jordan holmes
GOP, just come on, get rid of them.
You'll feel better if you have pets.
dan friesen
So anyway...
jordan holmes
I mean, we'll all still want to die, but...
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
I think he'd be easier to lame cuck.
Lame cuck president, that's the new thing.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
It's the new thing.
jordan holmes
Okay, I like that.
dan friesen
No more lame ducks.
jordan holmes
I actually really like that.
I really like that.
We wouldn't be able to use it if Hillary Clinton was in office, though.
dan friesen
We could.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
You can be a cuck lady.
Anyway, that is the problem that Alex is describing the globalists having.
Now, granted, all of the pillars of the problem he's describing are not true.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
But he has a solution.
jordan holmes
But the establishment is panicking because, for fuck's sakes, we all are.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But here's the solution.
alex jones
Kathy Griffith, or Griffin comes out, the CNN kind of failed comedian.
It's like a store mannequin.
And she comes out and with a TMZ videographer, reportedly, creates this image of the president with his head cut off with blood pouring out across his face.
Most of you have already seen the image.
It's the top story in the world since it came out yesterday because it's so iconic.
The girl next door who looks like an elementary school teacher in a nice 1950s blue dress.
Holding up the severed head of President Trump.
All you need to do is pick an image out of ISIS's playbook, and the two images are basically identical.
dan friesen
I would go with the flea flicker.
So, this is the solution.
You get Kathy Griffin to take a shocking picture, and that's going to be the solution for all of these.
The Russia narrative is falling apart.
Trump is going up in the polls.
So what do you do?
You get a failed comedian.
She's had a great career.
jordan holmes
She has had a great career.
dan friesen
It's against all odds.
She's had an amazing career.
jordan holmes
I would trade my career for hers very quickly.
dan friesen
Very much so.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I wouldn't have taken that picture.
jordan holmes
What I would have done is instead I would have gotten Trump to hold Trump's severed head.
dan friesen
See, now that's art.
jordan holmes
That's art, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then I would have a lot of people Jerk off onto his skull and encrust it with diamonds.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
Use the jizz as glue.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Glue jizz.
So, he's going to develop...
jordan holmes
And ladies.
dan friesen
He's going to develop this narrative throughout the course of the episode and explain what he means by Kathy Griffin being the answer to the globalist problems.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And he's...
jordan holmes
Say that sentence again!
dan friesen
I can't.
jordan holmes
Kathy Griffin!
Is the answer to the globalist problems.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
The globalists are really bad at this.
dan friesen
Very.
That's probably because they don't exist.
jordan holmes
Could be.
dan friesen
He's going to explain what he thinks is going on, his analysis and all this.
But along the way, he is doing so much projection.
Whenever he talks about the mainstream media, you kind of get the sense he's talking about himself.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because last week...
He was talking about how he was losing tons of affiliates.
He's now marked all his products down even further than their Memorial Day sales.
He's extended the Memorial Day sales and chopped off like 10% from other things.
And he's now saying, I don't know if this has always been the case, but he's never said it.
If you get on auto ship, right, so you get your subscription to his pills, and they just keep coming, whatever price you get it at...
You lock in that price.
jordan holmes
No shit!
dan friesen
So if you get, like, knockout now is like 60% off.
If you get it on auto ship, you'll consistently have it at that 60% off price as long as you get it.
He's taking a bath on these supplements at this point.
jordan holmes
He is broke.
dan friesen
Yeah, totally broke.
jordan holmes
I'm guessing that that Tuesday court victory was not that good.
dan friesen
It wasn't monetary.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So that also plays into what's going to end up happening on this episode.
Which is delightful.
unidentified
Okay, good.
dan friesen
But before we get to that...
jordan holmes
I love me some Hobo Jones.
dan friesen
He's got to get to talking about how much celebrities suck.
alex jones
But when the Church of Satan even piles on and says that she's horrible, well then you know that it's part of an establishment move because they understand that all these attacks and all these calls for violence on Trump are doing nothing more but backfiring on them in a big, big way.
jordan holmes
High praise for the Church of Satan.
alex jones
Now, all of that said, I have a video clip that I'm going to play here.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
He plays it twice.
alex jones
Of celebrities.
This is a small sampling from Madonna to Snoop Dogg threatening to kill Trump.
jordan holmes
All two of them.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
It's all of the ones that he always goes to.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
It's just the video of Madonna saying she's thought about blowing up the White House.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Conveniently cutting out the end.
jordan holmes
And then at the end, she says, but I don't.
dan friesen
But I wouldn't.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
I would never do that.
They cut out that part.
It's just the clip of Snoop Dogg with a gun to a fake Trump.
I don't know if they even kept it in the part where it puts a bang flag out, like a cartoon comic move.
jordan holmes
Now, here's what I would do if I were putting together this video.
I would underlay YG's Fuck Donald Trump under on it.
dan friesen
Why not?
jordan holmes
That would be perfect.
dan friesen
It's a family show.
You can't do that.
jordan holmes
It would be perfect.
dan friesen
So here's where he gets to...
He's going to get to that clip, but he gets sidetracked by projecting.
This is one of the clips where he really is talking about himself when he talks about the mainstream media.
alex jones
When we come back, I'm going to announce a major initiative against this MSM terroristic bullying.
That's what it is.
The MSM has been involved in terroristic bullying of the American people, and the Kathy Griffin saga has taken it to rock bottom.
And they have tried to force-feed us all this garbage, so at least for now, they're taking a pause on their assault on Trump because everything they did in the campaign failed.
Then they tripled the assault the last five months.
That failed the last six months.
And now they're taking a respite and trying to reorganize and decide what new lies they need to push and put out.
dan friesen
Wow!
jordan holmes
That is eerily similar to exactly what it is he's doing currently.
dan friesen
It really feels like...
jordan holmes
Boy!
dan friesen
Because, I mean, what is he doing?
He's taking a respite, taking a big breath from talking about anything that matters.
By fucking trying to dogpile on Kathy Griffin?
Then no one cares?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I love that he hates bullying so much.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
He just despises...
dan friesen
Terroristic bullying.
jordan holmes
It's awful when people bully.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It really is.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I hate it when people bully.
dan friesen
Yeah, you should bully those bullies.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Remember that show, Bully Beatdown?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
On VH1?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
It was a show where people, they'd get their bullies, and then an MMA fighter would fight them.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
It was like, hey, you think you're tough?
You could beat up this kid?
What about me?
And then the bully would train, and then they would fight.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I want to reboot that show with Kathy Griffin as the host.
Please.
Please.
dan friesen
Get Alex Jones in there.
jordan holmes
At the end of every episode, the MMA fighter has the bully's head in his hand.
dan friesen
Get Alex Jones in there.
jordan holmes
Right out of the ISIS playbook.
dan friesen
Totally.
Totally.
I'm sorry.
You had a thought, though?
I interrupted you with Bully Beatdown.
jordan holmes
I can't think of anything other than that now.
I can't think of anything but the meeting where somebody was like, this is the best show we've ever thought of.
And we want it to be on VH1.
dan friesen
MTV and VH1 really lost it for a couple years.
And I don't think they've got it back.
But they really just did anything.
They had like Date My Mom.
jordan holmes
All right, I'm on board.
dan friesen
Parental Control, that was a show where parents got to choose who their kids dated.
jordan holmes
Ooh, doesn't sound as good.
dan friesen
It was very weird.
jordan holmes
It was a strange time.
I'm in for date my mom.
dan friesen
Well, you had to go on a date with a girl's mom, and then if she liked you, you got to date the daughter.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's less fun.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
I'm in on bang my friend's mom.
dan friesen
That's a porno.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, I'm sorry.
Well, you said that they were throwing anything out there.
Why not?
dan friesen
It was close.
alex jones
Because the Russian narrative is falling apart.
Everything else they put out is falling apart.
The fact that Trump's mentally ill, that's falling apart.
So they're now kind of reassessing things and putting the brakes on things with Kathy Griffin, a third-rate failed comic who they are now deciding to throw over the side of the boat.
Because there are real debates in the whole Soros-Globalist combine about whether they're going to have nationwide riots coming up in July that they're already financing, cop-killing riots.
Civil unrest.
unidentified
I mean, that's being prepared right now.
alex jones
And so that's why Kathy Griffin and others have been encouraged to act like this, and it's been a safe climate to engage in this type of criminal activity in many cases, where we see terrorism experts saying terrorists ought to strike Trump properties, inviting the attacks, recommending them, colluding with them.
jordan holmes
It's almost like somebody invited them into here.
alex jones
That's what Al-Qaeda and ISIS is.
Is internet media personalities, production houses, trying to encourage lone wolves to go out and carry out attacks.
And that's what the media's been doing.
They've been acting just like Al-Qaeda and just like ISIS.
And that's why the new contest we're launching is called Expose the MSM Media Terrorist.
dan friesen
Now I know you...
jordan holmes
All you have to do...
Give us all of your money.
dan friesen
Well, that is part of it.
jordan holmes
Of course.
You have to pay to be in the contest, don't you?
dan friesen
I know you loved the animation contest.
jordan holmes
Yes, I did.
dan friesen
And so when I heard this, that there was another contest, I was like, Jordan's gonna love this.
We'll get to the specifics of the contest in a little bit, and why it's the biggest charade in the world.
Oh, I can't wait.
jordan holmes
I have this vision now of the globalists.
Sitting around this giant, like, Dr. Strangelove table.
Soros just walking in there being like, Gentlemen, when shall we have the riots?
dan friesen
There's debates.
jordan holmes
I am thinking...
dan friesen
There's debates.
jordan holmes
Late summer!
dan friesen
Too hot.
jordan holmes
Early fall!
That's what I imagine that it's like whenever the globalists talk over each other.
dan friesen
I like to riot when it's brisk out.
It's so stupid.
jordan holmes
We want to see the leaves change color.
Wait until December.
dan friesen
But you know what he's talking about.
He's talking about that March for Truth that's been organized.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right.
We're already financing them.
dan friesen
Cop killers.
jordan holmes
March for cop killers.
dan friesen
You understand what he's doing.
jordan holmes
Kathy Griffin's going to lead the march.
dan friesen
What he's doing is 100%, like in that clip, literally doing everything a fascist propagandist would do.
He's trying to invalidate the press.
He's trying to attack the press.
At the same time, he's labeling legitimate protests as riots.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
If you were an authoritarian leader, there's little more that you would want out of a mouthpiece.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I can think of...
dan friesen
It's almost like bullying.
jordan holmes
I can think of a few recent examples of that exact same behavior from, what would it be, Turkey?
Oh, yeah.
Russia, of course.
Sure.
I don't know.
dan friesen
Soon to be...
jordan holmes
Nigel Farage?
I'm pretty sure he's doing that too?
dan friesen
Soon to be us.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
So, this next clip is pretty short, but I think it's really telling.
It's really telling about what Alex Jones thinks matters to people.
And it's super fucked up.
I don't even know how to set it up.
Just listen to it.
alex jones
And you've got the Chicago Tribune and everybody pointing out that Trump's properties are the soft targets.
Again, trying to run down the value of them, you name it.
These people are at war with us.
dan friesen
These people are at war with us.
jordan holmes
By trying to run down the value of those properties.
dan friesen
Why the fuck do I care what Trump's houses are valued at?
I don't give a shit.
And I've read the articles that he's talking about, and he mentioned MSNBC counter-terrorism expert who was saying that ISIS should bomb Trump's buildings.
That was Malcolm Nance.
And I've watched everything that he's put out.
I've watched the clip in question.
He's not saying that.
He's saying that...
Terrorists obviously would want to target his buildings.
He's saying that if he had to predict, those would be the first targets.
And of course they would.
You'd have to be an idiot not to think that.
jordan holmes
It seems really easy to do also.
It doesn't seem like it would be that hard for ISIS to really get one in the Trump Tower.
dan friesen
Maybe not Trump Tower itself, because there's a lot of protection there.
unidentified
No, of course.
dan friesen
But go to one of the other ones.
jordan holmes
I mean, for fuck's sakes, blow up a golf course.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That'd be fun.
dan friesen
I think it's too big.
jordan holmes
Nah.
dan friesen
It's 18 holes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the ninth hole.
dan friesen
Blow up the ninth hole.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right on the way into the clubhouse.
dan friesen
The hinge?
jordan holmes
Right on the way into the clubhouse, everybody just starts falling into a giant pit.
Done.
ISIS!
Donate to the show and you'll become policy ones.
unidentified
Jesus.
jordan holmes
Wait, no, nope.
dan friesen
I gotta walk that one back.
But yeah, that's what Alex Jones' conception of what matters is.
jordan holmes
I'm never gonna do the CNN New Year's Eve stories.
dan friesen
No, you're not.
jordan holmes
No, I'm not.
dan friesen
But that's what matters to Alex, is Trump's property being valuable.
That is important to him, and he thinks the people who would act against that are at war with us.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
That's his thought?
That's really where he goes.
So they're trying to attack Trump.
They're trying to take him down.
And they want to drive down the property value of his house.
Of his houses.
Of his properties.
Obviously, their value.
unidentified
But...
jordan holmes
I think that means that Alex's house is not worth as much as he thought it was.
dan friesen
It's possible.
It's possible there was an article in the Tribune about it.
jordan holmes
I think he needs to sell his house.
dan friesen
We already know he's going to sell his car.
jordan holmes
His alimony payments are crazy high right now.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Who knows what happened in court on Tuesday.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's interesting.
dan friesen
Anyway, this next clip, he finally gets to the celebrity video that he was talking about.
And it starts with Mickey Rourke being kind of awesome.
And then Alex insults Mickey Rourke in a very transphobic way.
And then Alex Jones does not understand trolling.
It's really fascinating what he thinks he's doing.
Just let this play, and then you can ask your question.
unidentified
Thank you.
alex jones
Let's go to that clip.
His wife said, well, he's a tough guy.
He's not a tough guy.
He's a bully and he's a bitch.
And he can suck my...
Look at this poor guy.
He looks like the Catwoman.
He's had so many plastic surgeries.
He used to be a great actor.
Bombed out of his brain.
Totally insane.
I know folks that know him in Hollywood.
Mickey Rourke threatening the president.
Meeting with a baseball bat.
And all these other tough guys.
How they want to hurt or attack the president.
All because he wants to try to protect the country and stop people like the guy that came in from Libya and blow up all these little girls.
Let's back this up one more time.
See, Mickey, being a tough guy is actually taking care of your family and your country and not siding with Islamists and having a big rubber face.
I mean, you look like a clown.
You look like an overweight tranny.
You're the overweight tranny.
And then we've got...
Kathy Griffin, she looks like an anorexic tranny or something.
I'm not against trannies.
I'm just pointing out that we've got...
I'm trolling the media there.
I'm doing that on purpose.
It's a joke, folks.
Not bashing trannies.
It's a joke.
Even though he does look like the Joker or something.
Let me be serious and play the club.
Here it is.
dan friesen
So, like...
I know.
jordan holmes
Why does he...
dan friesen
I know.
It's so bizarre.
unidentified
Can he not...
dan friesen
It's so bizarre.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
It's so bizarre that he's just like, I'm trolling the media, but what part of it is trolling?
Like, is it that you're saying that word that offends people?
Is that the part that's trolling?
jordan holmes
No, he didn't understand that word.
He doesn't understand the reason that word is a...
dan friesen
Because he said it again.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
He followed it up with that word.
dan friesen
I don't hate them.
jordan holmes
I think he means...
What's trolling?
I think he...
He thinks that when the MSM reports on this, they're going to take that out of context and be like, here's Alex Jones hating on transgender people.
dan friesen
But he is.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
He is through his actions.
jordan holmes
He doesn't understand that by the very nature of him throwing off those things, that's very offensive.
dan friesen
Well, I found a clip that I don't know if we'll use in the investigation.
jordan holmes
It's dehumanizing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I don't think he understands that when people ask not to be called the N-word or the T-word, they're not doing it because they want you to be nice to them.
They're doing it because those words have been used to hurt people throughout.
jordan holmes
The entirety of their existence.
dan friesen
And so when words are used as insults, they aren't words that you should use towards people.
The math isn't very difficult to figure out.
If something was used as a pejorative...
jordan holmes
Stop bullying me!
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Stop bullying me!
dan friesen
Free speech!
jordan holmes
Free speech!
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Second Amendment!
Second Amendment!
That's the one that covers free speech, right?
Free speech, free guns.
dan friesen
More importantly...
Hell yeah, Mickey Rourke.
jordan holmes
He can suck my fucking dick.
dan friesen
You guys a bitch.
jordan holmes
You are goddamn right.
dan friesen
I mean, come on.
What are you going to do?
So, in this next clip, Alex, after...
jordan holmes
But doesn't that seem like the...
I don't know why you would put that in your clip, because doesn't that seem like exactly the thing Alex Jones loves so much?
dan friesen
What?
unidentified
Like, the rant he went on about Schiff.
jordan holmes
Like, that whole thing was exactly that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So why are you suddenly being like, hey, now, hold on, don't you, let me tell you something, this is because you're an osomicist, that's why.
Like, fuck you, you should be, if you're Alex Jones, you should be like, you know what, I disagree with you, but I love the way you do it, man.
dan friesen
Wait, are you talking about Mickey Rourke?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh.
jordan holmes
That's exactly the tone, that's exactly the type of speech, the wording.
Every part of that is exactly what Alex Jones did to Adam Schiff.
dan friesen
I think that Alex Jones was drunker and less creative than Mickey Rourke because Mickey Rourke brought in a bat and a hotel room for some reason.
jordan holmes
Well, Mickey Rourke is an artist.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
You're totally right.
I have no idea.
My big answer would be that Alex is dumb.
jordan holmes
How could he not at least respect that?
dan friesen
Well, because he has a vested interest in not, you know?
jordan holmes
Right, but that's such a...
Fucking punk move!
dan friesen
I know, but...
jordan holmes
Alex Jones is a bitch!
dan friesen
We're coming to...
jordan holmes
Also, I don't like using that...
Yeah, whatever.
dan friesen
Agreed.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
We're coming to this from a rational perspective, and that's a problem, because he lives in an irrational world.
jordan holmes
That is a problem.
dan friesen
He lives in a world where he has a line that he has to hold up.
And no matter what, he's gonna hold up that line.
And we don't.
There's a lot of things that we could give up on, and we don't have to defend.
Like, we're liberal-minded people, but we don't give a fuck about Kathy Griffin.
jordan holmes
Still don't care.
dan friesen
Yeah, so, I mean, like, we can be flexible about things because we're not rigidly adhering to an ideology.
jordan holmes
And here's the craziest part that I hate about the whole Kathy Griffin thing, is the people on the right are bitching, like, Kathy Griffin, that whole thing.
dan friesen
Snowflakey.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
Then you have people who are like, what are you fucking talking about?
What if they did this to Obama?
They did!
Here are pictures of people burning Obama in effigy!
dan friesen
Or Ted Nugent, if you want to use a famous person with his guns.
jordan holmes
And either way, you're just sitting there thinking, one of those is intentional and literal.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Kathy Griffin does not actually want to do that.
A lot of the people who burned him in effigy...
It was not a symbolic movie.
dan friesen
Kathy Griffin was making an artistic statement, but at the same time, it was aggressive and violent.
I'm not going to let her off the hook if you're just trying to say that one person hanging Obama is worse.
It is, because it's racially charged, too.
The lynching aspect of it.
jordan holmes
There's intention behind it.
dan friesen
Maybe.
I don't know if that's fair, though.
I don't think it's fair to say that those people who expressed themselves through lynching a fake Obama, I don't know if they would.
jordan holmes
Boy, you just said that sentence.
dan friesen
I did.
jordan holmes
Express yourself through lynching a fake Obama is not a sentence that carries well with whatever your following argument is going to be.
I'm just going to go right back to they expressed themselves by lynching a fake Obama.
dan friesen
I'm not thrilled that that came out of my mouth.
But the argument I'm making is I don't think that they would necessarily hang Obama himself in the same way that I obviously, Kathy Griffin, wouldn't behead Donald Trump.
Like, I think that there is...
jordan holmes
I wouldn't put it past her.
unidentified
Okay.
Well, then you just invalidated your argument for a joke.
dan friesen
So, look.
jordan holmes
Worth it.
dan friesen
We're never going to get to the bottom of that.
Everybody is wrong.
jordan holmes
Still don't care.
dan friesen
I don't either.
jordan holmes
I wish we had not spent this much time talking about it.
I wish Alex hadn't brought it up so I could continue to live in my world where I don't give a shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, just ignore it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, too late.
dan friesen
But you know what you can't ignore?
Alex Jones has a new contest.
jordan holmes
Oh, sweet.
dan friesen
Now we're going to get to it.
alex jones
Now let me make the new announcement.
It's up on Infowars.com.
It just went live.
It is also up on Big League Politics.
The story, again, is on Infowars.com.
Mike Cernovich called me last night.
dan friesen
That's not the story.
jordan holmes
If you're watching Infowars, how do you not always know what Infowars.com is?
alex jones
And he said, Alex, I got a really good idea.
With this Kathy Griffin story, he said, you know how you did your Bill Clinton's a Rapist contest and shelled out about $125,000 on that?
And how it...
jordan holmes
It happened thousands of times on national TV.
alex jones
It's still happening at Democratic rallies.
They tried to change the subject onto Trump being a sexual predator with no evidence.
When Bill Clinton has settled rape cases and done everything else, and his wife defended pedophiles and other rapists that she knew were guilty, she's admitted that.
dan friesen
She was a lawyer.
alex jones
So they took their big weakness, just like they were weak on Russia, so they blame that on Trump.
They took their big weakness of their sexual predator activities and Jerry Epstein and...
Anthony Weiner and all the child porn garbage.
dan friesen
Trump also went on.
alex jones
And so they then projected that onto Trump.
So what we did is we said, listen, we've got to take action.
So Roger Stone and many others worked to get Bill Clinton's rape victims into that debate.
And I worked with you, the listeners, to go out and simply say, Bill Clinton's a rapist.
dan friesen
I promise we're about to get to the actual contest.
This is just him sort of jacking himself off about what he's done.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, he's...
He's talking about how he's got the most successful contest there's ever been.
dan friesen
My contest swayed an election, this sort of shit.
jordan holmes
We busted our ass off to make sure everybody knew Bill Clinton was a rapist.
dan friesen
You made a shirt.
jordan holmes
And I agree.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So we're about to get to the actual contest.
alex jones
And to make it more fun, everybody that gets the shirt for more than five seconds or so, clearly on TV.
You get $1,000 if you do it and get Infowars.com out and the fact that the mainstream media are anti-American terrorists, that the fake news are a bunch of terroristic bullies, terms like that, out on CNN, Fox, I don't care.
CNN's who we're targeting because she works for CNN.
dan friesen
Not anymore.
alex jones
She doesn't just do the ball drop.
She's routinely on CNN.
She does comedy for them.
I see her on there all the time.
dan friesen
All the comedy on CNN?
jordan holmes
She's a CNN worker.
alex jones
She's a CNN employee.
And to fund this, we're going to sell a t-shirt.
You also get $1,000 or $2,500.
If you're seen wearing the t-shirt on national TV, C-SPAN, your local news, if that then gets picked up nationally or goes viral, I will choose $1,000 or $2,500 until it hits $200,000.
Last time we hit $100,000 in like a few weeks.
Because so many people did it successfully.
And then still other folks were doing it, so I still paid out to some other folks, but I didn't really have the money.
I don't really have $200,000 laying around, but this is worth it.
This is a key crack in their facade.
America is awake now.
They jumped the shark.
This is iconic.
dan friesen
It's not iconic.
It's already a snooze.
The Kathy Griffin story.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's already over.
dan friesen
She's already fired.
She was fired the morning of this broadcast.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
She doesn't have more gigs with CNN.
She really was just their ball drop with Ryan Seacrest's lady.
jordan holmes
I wonder how her bookings are going.
dan friesen
Well, maybe fell through a little.
jordan holmes
I would say probably a few of them.
Especially in the South.
dan friesen
I assume you gotta take a little break.
Maybe go to Vegas for a bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'd be a good idea.
dan friesen
Hang out and have people think you're Carrot Top.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
She's gonna have to work out a lot more.
dan friesen
Yeah, but look, the thing is...
Alex thinks that, like, we're gonna be talking about nothing but Kathy Griffin for the next six months.
jordan holmes
It's the big story.
dan friesen
So he's made a shirt.
jordan holmes
I mean, the Russia thing has fallen through.
dan friesen
He's made a shirt.
jordan holmes
Everybody knows that's over.
dan friesen
He has a shirt that's based on, like, Shepard Fairey sort of style, with her holding a severed Trump head, and it says, Terrorist CNN.
CNN Terrorist on it.
jordan holmes
That's a bad idea.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
That backfires so fast.
dan friesen
She's already fired and the shirts are a week away.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He hasn't ordered them yet.
jordan holmes
And not just that, why do you want to put that image out more?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That's not a good...
Yeah, we want to remind everybody about how pretty much everybody feels most of the time.
dan friesen
Well, they want to put the image out more because they think, or Alex is presenting it as like, this is the jump the shark moment for Trump hate.
When it's not.
It's not at all.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
It's something off on some weird side road that most people aren't going down.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's somewhere over there.
We're all ignoring it.
Moving forward with the actual investigations that are going on.
jordan holmes
Pretty important stuff.
dan friesen
And the facts.
jordan holmes
You know, like treason.
dan friesen
He is going to take a fucking huge L on this.
I don't remember all the clips that I have, but he says that he ordered ten varieties of this shirt.
jordan holmes
Ooh, no!
dan friesen
And they all have to do with the Kathy Griffin picture.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
He spent the entire broadcast pretty much, I would say like 60% of the time, that picture was on the big screen behind him at the news desk.
jordan holmes
He is going to take a bath on those.
dan friesen
He thinks that this is going to save him as the new mem.
But it's not.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's not gonna work.
jordan holmes
That's bad.
dan friesen
It's terrible.
jordan holmes
He's not gonna do well with those shirts.
dan friesen
But the flip side of it is he has enough rabid fans that he will sell a bunch of those shirts.
jordan holmes
I don't think he'll even sell that many of those.
dan friesen
I think he'll be okay.
I don't think he'll hit $200,000 giving them out.
jordan holmes
Nah.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
Nah.
unidentified
But...
jordan holmes
Yes?
dan friesen
The bigger issue is that this is trying to get sales.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
This is about selling shit.
jordan holmes
Right, it's a contest.
dan friesen
He sees an opportunity.
jordan holmes
It's the Monopoly McDonald's contest.
That's what it is.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Buy these shirts so you might win $1,000.
dan friesen
How many people have access to getting on the news, necessarily, of the people who are going to buy these shirts?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's a tiny number.
If you get on the local news, it has to go viral for it to pay off.
And, in order for it to pay off, you have to say Infowars.com while you're on the thing.
jordan holmes
Oh, really?
There are even more catches and loopholes and...
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
You get $1,000 if you're seen on TV with one of those shirts, or a sign that says that, that CNN are terrorists.
You get $2,500 if you have one of those on TV, and you say Infowars.com repeatedly.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You have to yell, Infowars.com, like World Star Hip Hop, kind of thing.
The people behind bum fights and shit.
So...
It's all about selling shit, and he makes it clear in this next clip that, you know, you've got to buy.
alex jones
So, the shirts are being produced right now.
It'll take them a week to get here.
You'll have your shirts the next week and a half, but don't wait for that.
We're putting the PDFs up on Infowars.com at Infowars.com forward slash contest, or just on the front page right now, Operation Exposed Terrorist Media.
I'm going to tweet it out at Real Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Don't do it.
alex jones
I'm going to tweet it out on Paul Watson's Twitter.
Please retweet it.
You can make your own graphic, your own image.
Have a poster board.
Make your own t-shirt.
I don't care what you do.
However you do it, just get it on the news that CNN is a terrorist organization.
dan friesen
So, there's two pieces to that.
The first is...
The shirts will be here in a week, but don't wait.
Buy them now.
So there's that aspect.
And then he's saying...
jordan holmes
They're going to sell out fast.
dan friesen
He's saying, make your own shirts.
Do your own shit.
Because he knows that even if people do their own stuff, it's still advertising for him.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It's still absolute free advertising.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
Like, that is trolling.
That's what that is, trying to get on CNN saying that bullshit.
No, it's not like it's going to convince anybody who's watching CNN at the time to be like, I think I will check out InfoWars.
dan friesen
It's trolling the news to some extent, but on a greater extent, it's trolling his audience.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's...
If you buy these shirts and play into this, you're the rube.
You're the mark in all this.
jordan holmes
Well, if you listen to InfoWars, you're already past that point.
You might as well go whole hog.
dan friesen
So in this next clip, Alex admits that what Kathy Griffin did was totally legal, which of course it was.
But then he gets into one of his patented, soon-to-be-failed predictions.
alex jones
Kathy Griffin should be ashamed, says Trump.
People ask, is it illegal?
No, she didn't say kill the president.
She did some very obnoxious performance art, you could argue, that is pushing the idea of violence and this whole atmosphere of the riots they won in July that Mike Cernovich first broke months ago that Soros is admittedly funding at double the rates he was ever funding civil unrest previously.
He's been a big part of overthrowing parts of the Middle East, Ukraine, you name it.
So he means business.
They're planning something big this summer.
But finally this caught the public.
And it's just people are so sick of it.
And the demonization has backfired.
I was telling crew members last week.
I said it on air.
I said they've hit bottom.
It's now backfiring.
What is their next tactic going to be?
And I believe it's going to be false flags to make themselves the victims.
jordan holmes
Oh!
Oh, yeah, they would make themselves the fucking victims of what?
Some kind of right-wing terrorist who's fucking murdering people?
Yeah, they would make themselves fucking false flags.
They don't need to do that shit.
There's already enough right-wing fucks murdering people.
The most dangerous fucking people in this country right now are old white dudes who have a sh- Fucking axe to grind.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's the problem.
dan friesen
Well, that situation...
jordan holmes
Fuck you if you think that...
We do not need false flags.
You guys are doing more than fucking enough.
dan friesen
Well, the further thing that I...
I mean, I agree with you, but also, if you're listening to our investigation back into 2015, you'll recognize some of this language.
Because Alex Jones was talking in 2015 about how it was going to be the summer of rage.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That never came to be.
He always does this.
He always predicts, basically almost every summer, that shit's gonna jump off this summer.
jordan holmes
Well, ever since the summer of 69, he's always known summers are dangerous.
dan friesen
That's when he got his first real six-string.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Bought it at a five and dime.
It was cheap back then to get a guitar.
But you know what?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Jordan, I have some good news.
jordan holmes
What's your good news?
dan friesen
Alex Jones is a smart man.
He's figured everything out.
He's figured out exactly what the globalists are up to.
And he's going to lay out his plan.
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure he's figured out what the globalists have been up to for 20 years and none of it has come true.
dan friesen
He's figured all that, fuck all that.
jordan holmes
He's reverse engineered all of this, but it doesn't seem...
Oh, okay, you're waving it away?
dan friesen
Fuck all that.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
The past is past.
jordan holmes
Fake news.
dan friesen
Fake news in the past, let it die.
Let it be buried in the past.
You can't live in the past.
jordan holmes
Y2K.
dan friesen
Come on, man.
You've got to live in the now.
You've got to live in the now.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And when you live in the now, you come up with things like this.
Also, I believe that this clip is pretty strong evidence that Alex Jones is smack dab in the middle of a manic episode.
alex jones
This is such an exciting time to be alive because I've been waiting for another contest.
I've been saying that we pioneered having these contests for free speech, legally and lawfully, with the Bill Clinton rape stuff and the vaccine awareness things I've done, the Bill Clinton Joker and the Obama Joker stuff we've done.
But I've been waiting for the right moment, waiting for the right thing.
And when I saw this Kathy Griffin thing, I said, this is going to be huge.
She's going to be destroyed by this.
They've gone too far.
People are fed up.
She did this right at the right moment where people were finally sick of the poison, about to throw it up, about to reject it.
And the numbers show that, but I can feel it.
She came right at the right time where they now are throwing her overboard.
And why are they doing that?
That's another big question.
Because they're preparing riots this summer.
They want to pull back now and have the media act like they're not for the violence because they're getting ready to actually trigger it.
They've got it built up and ready.
Now they want to start decrying it a month out from July before they trigger it.
We're almost exactly a month out from the July 3rd riots they're publicly planning nationwide.
So they want to pull back, act like they're all for peace, so they can act like they repudiated those calling for violence ahead of it and ahead of them launching false flags on patriots.
dan friesen
Yeah, what do you think about that?
He figured it out.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's just a bad plan.
That's just a bad plan.
Now, I'm not saying he's wrong.
I'm saying whoever came up with that plan, be it the mainstream media or Alex Jones, has developed a very poor plan.
dan friesen
Alex Jones is a lunatic, and that's what he thinks is going on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's crazy.
dan friesen
I'll give you the reality.
There's a bunch of people who are very pissed off about the way that Trump is comporting himself, and so they've planned marches to peacefully organize and protest.
As is the right of citizens.
jordan holmes
Second Amendment.
dan friesen
Secondarily, Kathy Griffin is a nutjob.
And she made a picture that was in very poor taste.
And people responded in kind.
Whether they be on the right or the left, people were just like, that lacks class.
I'm not into that.
No thank you.
No thank you.
jordan holmes
The collective response to Kathy Griffin was...
No.
dan friesen
No, thank you.
And then so CNN fired her promptly.
Certainly more promptly than Fox News has ever fired anybody.
unidentified
Shh.
dan friesen
Fake news.
unidentified
Shh.
jordan holmes
Quiet.
dan friesen
They might hear you.
So it's all resolved already.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's all resolved.
There's nothing left.
But Alex thinks it's going to be the biggest thing.
jordan holmes
Let's have our own contest.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Okay.
If you find somebody wearing one of those shirts and you email us a picture of it...
dan friesen
Give them a hug.
jordan holmes
Do that?
dan friesen
They need it.
jordan holmes
And we will give you an honorary policy wonk status.
dan friesen
Oh, sure.
If you see one of those fucking shirts in the wild...
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
I've only ever seen one InfoWars shirt in public.
jordan holmes
Yeah?
dan friesen
Ever.
It was when I went down with Marty to a show in the middle of Indiana.
jordan holmes
Marty DeRosa, friend of the show and former guest.
dan friesen
Yeah, he had a show in the middle of Indiana, and I went, and I was like, oh, my man!
Guy had an InfoWare shirt on and a MAGA hat.
I was like, we are in the middle of Indiana.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it was just still one guy.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Packed bar, one dude.
jordan holmes
I want to see, yeah.
dan friesen
It was like a unicorn.
jordan holmes
I want to know, I want to know how many of those shirts he sells.
I want an exact number.
dan friesen
I can't imagine it's not many.
I mean, they only cost five bucks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no.
He sells a hundred of those at most.
dan friesen
It's free shipping in the month of May.
jordan holmes
It's free shipping.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's trying to give shit away.
He's having trouble.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I sincerely believe that all of this is just indications that shit is falling apart.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, of course.
dan friesen
And that also would explain his manic episode.
Also, I don't think he was in court on Tuesday.
I think he was probably having a bender.
But be that as it may, you know, whenever Jerome Corsi's news didn't, you know, pass the smell test, Alex Jones had to...
That's my theory.
Anyway, at this point in the episode, Mike Cernovich gets in the mix.
We get Mike Cernovich on Skype, and he says some of the dumbest shit!
jordan holmes
Oh no.
dan friesen
He is whole hog about this contest.
He's super into it.
jordan holmes
Because it was his idea.
dan friesen
He came up with it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
He came up with it by saying, hey, Alex, remember that thing you did in the past?
Let's do it again.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
Which is a fantastic little trick of like, hey, I had this idea, but it's really your idea, so you know it's a good idea.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And if it does work, Cernovich is the golden boy.
And when it doesn't work, it's going to be hilarious.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So the thing that I think is the funniest is that this is how Cernovich starts.
And he tries to maybe be a little bit grandiose about the purpose of this contest.
jordan holmes
Oh, who would have guessed?
dan friesen
And it's pretty funny.
mike cernovich
Yeah, thank you.
Right when it happened, I thought, because, you know, a lot of people listening at home don't realize that Alex and I had a big meeting in Austin, and we said, you know, we really want to find ways to help people who listen and maybe want to make a career in journalism, but you can't hire everybody, but we want to find ways to spread the wealth around voluntarily.
And this contest is a way for people to say, hey, you know, maybe I'm a young kid, I'm struggling, or hey, maybe I want to get into the media game or whatever, but I don't know what to do.
alex jones
And it's fun to add some booty in there.
dan friesen
But also...
jordan holmes
If you want to get into the media game, here's how you do it.
dan friesen
Wear a shirt.
jordan holmes
I remember Ted Koppel reminiscing in his autobiography about how he became such an important newsman.
And what happened was Edward R. Murrow had a contest.
You remember that.
Which just had Joe McCarthy's face on it.
And it said, despair.
Right?
dan friesen
Wait, it wasn't the Joe McCarthy rape shirt?
jordan holmes
No, you're right.
It was that one.
I apologize.
I got that mixed up with Shepard Fairey's Joe McCarthy print.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, that is the craziest thing I've ever heard.
The idea that they're doing this contest to help young guns who want to get into the media game.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's like, okay, yeah, you know that most things don't work like rebel media?
You know, most things don't work like Lauren Southern.
jordan holmes
Just randomly put a YouTube video up and it's like, yeah, we'll pay you 40 grand a year.
dan friesen
I'm gonna go insult liberals and then have them explain things to me and pretend I won.
You're hired.
You did it.
jordan holmes
Listen, it wasn't great, but you got moxie, kid.
You got moxie.
dan friesen
You're very cute and you hate women.
You're in.
jordan holmes
It's like they think it's 1940s New York whenever, like...
And a Doctorow book, Billy Bathgate, where everybody's just little kids wandering down the cobblestone streets like, Hey mister, you work for the mob?
Can I get a job running numbers, sir?
dan friesen
You're a made boy.
It also has the smell of like, it would be the equivalent of getting a job with Howard Stern or getting a job in radio.
By going on someone else's show and yelling Baba Booey, you know?
All you're doing is disrupting people and giving Alex free press.
You are not doing anything for your own brand.
You're not helping yourself at all.
But because they know that people are fucking stupid that listen to their show, they're like, oh yeah, this is going to be your way of getting your foot in the door.
Because then you're going to have a reel.
And then if you're charismatic enough, when you're on air, you're going to be a star.
You're going to have a reel!
jordan holmes
Infowars.com!
You're right.
You are perfect.
dan friesen
This kid's got it.
Like that fucking...
jordan holmes
I love the way he reads into the teleprompter.
That's really good stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, it's just nonsense.
But it's even worse.
This next clip is even worse.
Listen to this.
alex jones
Because just like Henry Ford said, he was a bad guy in many ways, but he's right.
Why do you pay people ten times when anybody else does?
He goes, because I want to build an economy where they can buy the cars.
I want to build a middle class.
We need a middle class.
We need to spend money and build things or there isn't a civilization to live in.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
mike cernovich
That's exactly right.
Building our own economy is the exact phrase that Alex and I used at an Easter brunch we had with my wife and daughter.
We said, how can we build up more people?
How can we build this economy so that people have more success and more prosperity?
So these contests are a perfect way.
jordan holmes
This is how you do it?
dan friesen
They're so delusional.
jordan holmes
This is how you do it.
dan friesen
They're so delusional.
jordan holmes
That's what you gotta do.
dan friesen
Doing a contest where you can win $1,000 to troll.
unidentified
So, like, newscaster, that's creating prosperity.
jordan holmes
What it is is it is a stimulus package.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Now, admittedly, it's not as much as maybe the Treasury would like.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
But I think randomly maybe putting out roughly 50 grand at most is really going to jumpstart our economy.
Listen, think of all the things you could buy with $1,000.
dan friesen
Not that much.
jordan holmes
You could buy a medium-level TV?
dan friesen
Maybe, yeah, sure.
jordan holmes
At least, at least, $10,000 Big Macs.
dan friesen
One and two-thirds month rent?
unidentified
That's not a lot.
dan friesen
Let's be realistic.
$1,000 is not that much.
jordan holmes
No, we're in trouble.
dan friesen
It's a lot if you're a baby.
It's a lot if you're a child.
Like, if you're a 15-year-old...
jordan holmes
Young guns!
dan friesen
If you're a 15-year-old and you want to go out there and put on one of those shirts, which I think is irresponsible...
jordan holmes
If you're a baby and you want to go out there and put on one of those shirts, you need to have a conversation with your parents.
dan friesen
Alex Jones better give someone $5,000 if they put it on a onesie and get that on the news.
That would be amazing.
jordan holmes
I would actually be for that.
dan friesen
But how fucking lunatic is it to be, like, this is creating prosperity?
jordan holmes
They don't...
This...
To me, this doesn't sound like their usual lying.
I think they're full-on delusional.
This is manic.
They are really believing that this is true.
dan friesen
You are a manic depressive.
jordan holmes
Yes.
I have been called that.
dan friesen
This rings true to your episodes.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
dan friesen
I got this great idea.
jordan holmes
This is a perfect idea.
Let me tell you something.
This is what's going to bring us out of that fucking hole that we've been in.
I'm going to tell you this right now.
No!
I haven't slept for three days.
Everybody wants to talk about that.
But let me tell you something.
If you just fucking listen to my ideas, if you just listen to them one fucking time, maybe we wouldn't be in this situation, huh?
Maybe it's your fault we're losing a lot of affiliates.
All I'm saying is t-shirts.
dan friesen
Our ratings would be huge if it wasn't for fucking Corsi.
And now we've got to fix the ship and I found the perfect way.
jordan holmes
I should have killed Corsi when I had the chance.
I thought about it.
I thought about it Monday.
I was thinking, you know what would be an even bigger story?
Would it be an even bigger story than Corsi's bombshell information?
Dead Corsi.
dan friesen
If there was a Corpsey...
jordan holmes
I made him, and I can take him out of this world.
dan friesen
That is delusional.
That is delusions of grandeur.
But, like, I think that Alex is having a manic episode, and I think Cernovich might do coke.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That would have been a much more fun Easter brunch, then.
I can't imagine how much it sucks to be Cernovich's daughter eating Easter brunch with depressed, lonely, childless Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Well, no, because he probably still had his wife, his new wife.
jordan holmes
Oh, they have their own kid, too.
dan friesen
They have a new baby.
jordan holmes
Weird.
Gross.
Poor bastard.
That baby's gonna be wearing a dead Kathy Griffin shirt.
dan friesen
That baby is doing great.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not good.
dan friesen
Thrilled for that baby.
But yeah, you're right.
jordan holmes
Those shirts are gonna wind up next to the Super Bowl loser t-shirts in Ghana.
dan friesen
It's gonna be a durfer.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
There's no way that like...
I mean, I agree with you entirely.
This is what the thought I was trying to get to is that this isn't the normal line.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But it's still the normal desperation.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
This is a desperate man trying to come up with a PR stunt because everything is going down the tubes.
He needs attention because also he's not selling shit.
That's why everything has all the prices cut.
That's why he needs to move product.
He's bullshitting everybody.
Like, he's saying that he's building a new studio, like a million dollar studio.
You're not.
There's no way you're doing that.
jordan holmes
And if you are, you shouldn't be.
dan friesen
You shouldn't be building a million dollar studio and doing a $200,000 contest, but be that as it may, it's not a $200,000 contest.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's a contest with a limit of $200,000.
Like, all this is bullshit.
All this is distraction.
jordan holmes
He would be dreaming if they actually had to pay out $200,000.
He'd be crushing it.
Or, he would be the least lucky man.
Like, it would be, what, 200 people.
The only 200 people who bought shirts who all somehow found themselves on the news.
dan friesen
Or it could be one guy doing it 200 times.
jordan holmes
See, now that's how you jumpstart the economy right there.
dan friesen
You could buy one shirt and do it over and over again.
Go to sporting events.
jordan holmes
No, they've got to limit one per person.
dan friesen
I don't know about that.
Let me look on the website.
Let me see.
No, they absolutely do not.
They absolutely don't.
jordan holmes
Oh, sweet.
Then we are buying one of those shirts.
dan friesen
I am not.
jordan holmes
Oh, I'm just...
Listen.
You know how they have that Good Morning America wall that you can all, like...
Oh, yeah.
I am punching a lot of people out and screaming at Infowars.com.
dan friesen
Again, this is fun!
We want to award as many prizes as possible.
Even if you don't quite make it on TV...
Post your pictures to Twitter and social media.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, of course.
That way we don't have to pay for them and we get it free.
dan friesen
Tag your pictures at RealAlexJones with the hashtag CNNIsIsIs.
jordan holmes
That's a bad hashtag!
unidentified
It's just CNNIsIsIsIsIs.
dan friesen
It's so ridiculous.
jordan holmes
They really gotta get a better social media manager.
dan friesen
Shouldn't listen to Cernovich.
So in this next clip, Mike Cernovich...
Explains what this is about.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's not about money.
It's not about publicity.
It's about something else.
alex jones
But it's not even about that.
It's about getting back in their face, pointing out that mainstream media is the enemy and that we will not put up with their bullying anymore, Mike.
mike cernovich
Yeah, and it's about speaking out, which is why when I was at that Austin rally, I took on the microphone and said, Bill Clinton is a rapist.
And then you triggered that kind of animosity and anger from them that Kathy Griffin has.
Here's the way I look at it.
If Alex wants to give an event, he's going to have people disrupt it.
If I'm going to do an event, people are going to disrupt it.
It is time for us, legally and lawfully, if we see CNN out there recording an interview...
We need to get right up in there.
Free country, public space.
We have every right to go up there.
When CNN is filming something out on the street corner, they don't have a right to exclude anybody.
They don't have that property right there.
So people have every right to go up there and say, why is your employee Kathy Griffin a terrorist?
Why do you support terrorism?
Why won't CNN do the right thing and renounce terrorism?
See, we have every right to do it and we're going to exercise that right and we want to incentivize people to exercise that right.
dan friesen
We want to try and get people to do this for us because we're not going to do it.
jordan holmes
We want to incentivize rights.
unidentified
We want to incentivize rights.
dan friesen
Yes.
Also, too late.
unidentified
She's already fired.
dan friesen
She's already fired.
jordan holmes
Why won't CNN come out and denounce terrorism?
dan friesen
I think they do.
jordan holmes
I don't think they do.
I think they support Kathy Griffin.
As we all know, ISIS loves...
Pale redheads to front their organizations.
mike cernovich
Yeah, absolutely.
That's just a fact.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And then, of course, CNN, they have comedy.
mike cernovich
Comedy news now.
jordan holmes
I don't know what's going on.
unidentified
We've been over that.
jordan holmes
Why won't CNN come out and renounce terrorism?
They fired.
They fired her.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We're done.
dan friesen
And that wasn't even as a renouncement of terrorism.
That was just like, come on, Kathy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Come on.
jordan holmes
Well, that's the problem.
They didn't renounce terrorism.
dan friesen
That's why Cernovich is still mad.
jordan holmes
She should be in jail.
dan friesen
So now, Cernovich has a brilliant idea.
And when I say brilliant, I mean dog shit.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
This is a terrible idea.
jordan holmes
Is this the same as Corsi pitching about how he's gonna die last week?
dan friesen
No.
No.
Because this I think people might actually do.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That one was just straight...
Bullshit.
jordan holmes
Alex should have killed him.
dan friesen
He really should have.
jordan holmes
He really should have killed him.
Amazing.
dan friesen
Because then you could do the next week, you don't have to reveal the information that's bumpous.
You don't have to do that because now you have like, I'm going to get to the bottom of what the information was that Corsi died for.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
You could do months of that.
jordan holmes
And you got Roger Stone there to cover it up for you.
unidentified
Totally.
jordan holmes
If anybody knows how to hide bodies, it's Roger Stone.
dan friesen
Totally.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And you could have Roger Stone take over for like a month.
While you're on assignment trying to figure out what did Corsi know?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
While you're trying to lay low.
dan friesen
You can stay home drunk and just do reports from the road like, I've got a lead.
I talked to this legislator.
jordan holmes
That would be a great...
If it just suddenly turns into infowars.com slash hunting Bigfoot, that would be perfect, yeah.
dan friesen
He really fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, there was one path open to him to great ratings.
Unfortunately, it involves murdering an employee.
Unfortunately.
jordan holmes
Listen.
Of course, you could have just made it look like a heart attack.
He's already old.
dan friesen
He is old.
jordan holmes
He's fucking dead.
He's a walking dead man.
Might as well just push him off the cliff.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Anyway, you ready to hear Cernovich's dumb idea?
jordan holmes
I am ready to hear it.
alex jones
But I just know, I feel in my gut, this is going to absolutely take off.
It was going to be $100,000.
Remember last night we talked, but I'm doing $200,000.
And listen, if you buy enough t-shirts, it could become its own economy.
Those of you that have money, buy the shirts, promote free speech, let the mainstream media know that they're the enemy, meet like-minded people, and then I'll just keep putting the money back in.
We'll go to a million dollars, two million, five million.
I mean, theoretically, if enough shirts got bought, we would change the whole landscape of the country, the greatest meme ever seen, and you'd have people winning five million dollars.
mike cernovich
Exactly right.
So people can buy ten shirts, give them out.
Buy 10 shirts, give them to homeless people.
Whoa, I just thought of that.
What do you think of that, Alex?
alex jones
Give them to homeless people, and then they're going to be walking billboards.
mike cernovich
Wow.
Yes, I just thought of that right now, that people who are more successful could buy 10 shirts, 100 shirts, walk around and give them to homeless people, and then we'll have everybody wearing these shirts.
alex jones
That's a billboard for Chick-fil-A right there.
Homeless and trendies and people, they like violence and death and blood.
We don't.
But they'll love these shirts, and they'll wear them.
mike cernovich
Exactly, and then that will spread the meme even further.
dan friesen
There's not a chance people are going to wear that shirt.
Also, very offensive to say that homeless and trendies love violence.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it's not like they...
Look, they don't.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Like, they absolutely hate violence and death and blood.
They hate giant guns sitting on tables.
They despise peacocks being murdered by the...
dan friesen
He's making ten shirts of this picture.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He hates violence.
You gotta buy ten of them.
dan friesen
He hates violence.
jordan holmes
You gotta buy one from...
It's a collector series.
Do you remember the McDonald's Batman Forever tie-in?
dan friesen
Can I be...
jordan holmes
Those glasses?
dan friesen
I do.
Those frosted glasses.
jordan holmes
Those are perfect.
dan friesen
Those are amazing.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Can I be honest, though?
I would suggest rethinking the homeless billboard strategy for a couple reasons.
One...
jordan holmes
Why?
You don't want to associate your brand with the homeless?
dan friesen
That's one thing.
Another thing is it's really insulting to think of the homeless as things, and you're just using them.
jordan holmes
Not walking billboards.
dan friesen
So that's sort of problematic.
jordan holmes
Not people, billboards.
dan friesen
That's problematic to mine ears.
But then, beyond that, I don't think...
jordan holmes
Clear Channel actually owns all the homeless.
dan friesen
These days?
jordan holmes
These days, Clear Channel owns...
dan friesen
Would you like to donate some change to Jack FM?
unidentified
I...
dan friesen
You've never gone up to a homeless person and seen their shirt and been like, this guy's on to something.
I gotta check this out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what would you...
It's buzz marketing.
It's underground.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
The more you see it, the more it touches, the more it's in the public consciousness.
dan friesen
Spreads the meme.
jordan holmes
Everybody knows this.
dan friesen
That's so dumb.
jordan holmes
That's the dumbest idea.
I love his excitement when he's like, I just thought of that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I am actually a genius.
dan friesen
Daddy, aren't I smart?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Daddy, I came up with this terrible idea.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, please do that.
unidentified
Please!
dan friesen
Because then you'd be giving homeless people shirts.
And everybody could use more clothes out on the street.
It's tough out there.
jordan holmes
I know plenty of homeless people who would still deny those shirts.
dan friesen
I think they'd wear them inside out.
unidentified
Maybe.
jordan holmes
That'd be one way to do it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, Cernovich, you are not a smart businessman.
At this point, Cernovich breaks down some big news that he's gotten.
And it is about the murders in Portland on the train.
He has found big news out about this, and I'll just let him break it for you.
alex jones
Look at him!
He's a sack of garbage!
mike cernovich
Exactly.
So the left-wing media...
alex jones
And I'm not saying he's a sack of garbage because he has long hair.
He has that idiotic look in his eye, that little belligerent gang member thing of like a 12-year-old punk.
Total arrest of development.
Daddy wasn't home.
Daddy never spanked him.
He just thinks he can do whatever he wants.
Well, guess what?
You're going to prison now for 20 years, you dumbass.
mike cernovich
Yeah, 35-year-old total loser.
Like every other terrorist, just a complete and total loser.
Nothing going on.
And he was a left-wing operative.
And then people who Fell was flat.
Sources who sent me the screen caps, he admitted that he was running aside So, Mike Cernovich, a lot of his sources end up being, like, doctored photos that he finds on 4chan and stuff like that.
dan friesen
Right.
Whenever he has something like this, don't believe him.
That's my public service announcement.
jordan holmes
That's so stupid.
dan friesen
It is true that the Portland guy did support Bernie Sanders initially, but I don't think that has anything to do with anything and let's not belabor it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's not to say...
I'm not saying that to dodge.
Discussing the fact that he liked Bernie?
unidentified
Nah.
dan friesen
It's just irrelevant to the actual murder.
jordan holmes
He's a monster.
dan friesen
He's a horrible bigot asshole.
jordan holmes
He's a monster, and it was bigotry, and bigotry is...
unidentified
Yeah.
mike cernovich
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I love that he's like, I'm not saying he's a pile of garbage because of his hair.
dan friesen
I love that.
jordan holmes
I'm saying it because of the way he looks.
dan friesen
Because his daddy...
jordan holmes
Because of the glint in his eye.
dan friesen
Because dad didn't spank him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
That's why he's a pile of garbage.
Thanks, Alex.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It definitely isn't because he fucking murdered two people.
That's not why he's a pile of garbage.
dan friesen
And I know that Alex thinks he's being severe with his language, but he's like, now you're going to prison for 20 years, dumbass.
It's almost like he's critiquing, you didn't do that right.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Which is weird.
jordan holmes
Not that you're a mentally ill person, that you're stupid.
dan friesen
And it's not even any recognition of the tragic nature of what happened.
You can't even connect with that.
jordan holmes
He isn't talking about the people that were killed.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
A veteran, and what was the other dude?
dan friesen
The 23-year-old?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The guy who just graduated from college?
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
His name I cannot fucking pronounce, though I've tried.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
And he definitely didn't say that he murdered those two people.
Because they were defending Muslim women.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
He can't say that.
That simply will not...
Like, the only thing that he wants to do there is get into this whole thing about how they're traitors.
That's what he wants to talk about.
dan friesen
But also liberal false flag.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
But he wants...
That's his cover.
Because what he really wants to do is pull the same...
Pull white people aside and say...
We're all on the same team, right?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
He wants it to be a team game.
dan friesen
Somewhat, yeah.
jordan holmes
And so he can't allow that white people would actually defend these people.
The people that he's so afraid of, Muslim women, they were on the way to a pool store.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
That's what they were doing.
dan friesen
And they're freaking him out.
jordan holmes
And it was freaking him out.
And the idea that people would defend them, like the fucking heroes that they were.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He doesn't understand how his rhetoric and his beliefs that he espouse are related to this.
Just false flag, false flag.
And the other piece that I feel is really lacking in his empathy, and I don't feel like I've seen nearly it.
jordan holmes
You're giving him a lot of credit for even having empathy in the first place.
dan friesen
But I think this is lacking from a lot of people's empathy in the coverage that I've heard.
It was something that I was struck by, and that's the realization that these two poor girls are going to have to live the rest of their lives.
jordan holmes
They have survivor's guilt.
dan friesen
They know that people died for them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's not...
They shouldn't feel bad about that.
It's not their fault.
unidentified
Of course not.
dan friesen
Or anything like that.
But it's impossible as a human not to feel at least somehow...
It's going to take a lot of therapy to be okay with the situation that happens.
unidentified
Of course.
jordan holmes
Of course.
Already.
Already, I guarantee...
dan friesen
It's tremendous the amount of empathy I feel for them.
jordan holmes
Already, I guarantee they've had the thoughts of just like...
Why wasn't it me?
Just that survivor's guilt of it should have been me.
Why am I worthy of staying alive and these guys aren't?
dan friesen
Especially in the adolescent age.
The youthful age.
Processing those sorts of emotions is going to be very difficult.
No matter what angle you come at it from, there's nothing really good.
No good feelings except for about that guy who survived.
There's some pretty nice feelings about that because at least one person didn't die.
jordan holmes
I don't know, man.
dan friesen
It's still not a great feeling.
jordan holmes
From start to finish, it's just a fucking senseless tragedy.
dan friesen
I will say I don't like that the guy who survived was a slam poet.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I can say that that's one thing.
jordan holmes
Of all the horrible things that I have said, that is the worst thing that's been said on this podcast.
dan friesen
I'm being facetious, too.
I've seen some really great slam poetry in my day.
jordan holmes
Don't walk it back now, Kathy Griffin.
It's too late.
You're fired.
dan friesen
It's a hack joke to make fun of slam poetry, and I fell into that trap.
But anyway.
jordan holmes
Insensitive monsters.
dan friesen
At this point, Mike Cernovich leaves the show.
He is done, his shift, and Roger Stone comes in.
And I don't think he plays very heavily into any of the last clips that I have here, but Alex does say some really dumb stuff.
Here is how he comes back from break, and boy, he says a lot of really inaccurate things.
alex jones
I can smell victory in the air.
You know what I told the crew?
I told my family, I said, this anti-Trump stuff, I know they're putting 15 points or more against him in the polls, and his polls are still rising.
They're in full panic mode.
Most of the country is pro-Trump.
Only the dumbest conned trendies aren't.
It's not like we worship Trump.
We just recognize he's legitimately calling terrorists losers because that makes people then not go do it.
You call them dangerous and evil and powerful.
All these nerds.
I don't care if they're white, black, Arab, it doesn't matter.
It's all the same type.
Little wimps who are always jealous of women because they don't want to date them.
Oh, women don't want to date me.
Let me go blow up 70-something of them.
The FBI has profiles, folks.
These are literally...
Well, of course, who wants to go blow up random people?
If somebody does something to you, go beat the brains out yourself.
And I'm not saying do that either.
But that's what...
If somebody does something to you, you know, then you might do something back.
You don't go blow up little teenagers.
jordan holmes
They're losers.
alex jones
Trump is so smart, isn't he?
jordan holmes
Oh, do you mean like start a fucking war?
dan friesen
Yeah, but I mean...
jordan holmes
Do you mean like...
I don't know, kill everybody's fucking family with drone strikes out of fucking nowhere.
Why would you become a terrorist?
Because you're a loser.
You're definitely not fighting back against something.
You're definitely not fighting back against a fucking evil empire that's murdered everyone you know.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I mean, isn't it so Alex Jones to think, like, the answer to terrorism?
Bullying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Bullying.
jordan holmes
Call them losers.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You suck!
You're a wuss!
You're afraid!
Women don't want to have sex with you!
That's why you're killing people!
dan friesen
It's so caught up in his masculine narratives.
It's so caught up in his trappings.
He can't see anything else.
All he can see things through is the prism of white victimhood and masculine fears.
That's all he's got.
Everything goes through that prism.
And it's so sad.
It's so sad that that is...
That is a deeply ingrained piece of him.
We see it in 2015.
We see it now.
And it's pathetic.
jordan holmes
It is.
It's a little like if you've ever...
unidentified
Have you ever had a dog?
dan friesen
I've lived with a dog before.
It wasn't mine.
jordan holmes
It wasn't yours.
dan friesen
I like cats.
I'm a cat guy.
unidentified
That's fine.
dan friesen
Very, very defensive about it.
jordan holmes
You're getting very weird right now.
dan friesen
I like cats.
jordan holmes
It's fine.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Many high-profile men like cats.
dan friesen
Listen.
unidentified
Go ahead.
dan friesen
I know you like dogs.
Go ahead.
unidentified
Fine.
jordan holmes
I'm just talking.
No, I, like...
What is it like to see the world through a dog's eyes?
You know, like, they can't colorblind or whatever.
Just their vision is different from ours.
How is it that they perceive the world?
dan friesen
Well, I feel that way about my cat.
jordan holmes
Well, of course.
Of course.
But I don't know why I chose dogs other than I want a dog now.
Because fuck cats.
That was too easy.
No.
It must be weird.
It must be fascinating to try and see the world through Alex Jones' eyes.
Because it's so...
I mean, it's insane.
It's so divorced from reality.
You halfway expect...
If you saw through his eyes for one second, you halfway expect to see there are two suns in the sky and one of them is purple.
Everything has to be this weird fun house.
Mirror situation.
dan friesen
You almost wonder if he has a tumor or something like that.
Yeah.
It's not, though.
It's just cultural.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we couldn't be so lucky.
dan friesen
It's just cultural conditioning.
He's just such a...
I mean, we've solved the mystery about his psyche the minute we found that clip about his mom.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That is where a lot of this comes from.
Now, the racial stuff, I'm not entirely sure.
jordan holmes
That's just from being from Texas.
dan friesen
That's probably a big part of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And also having a family that fought for the South during the Civil War.
dan friesen
And rednecks bow down to him.
jordan holmes
I'm guessing maybe there's some parental situations that wound up using the N-word very heavily.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't want to put that on his parents.
I don't know that for sure.
jordan holmes
I do.
dan friesen
Maybe an uncle.
jordan holmes
I do.
dan friesen
Anyway, this next clip.
Jordan?
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
This next clip, Alex, you want to tell you what's really...
You know what?
Fuck.
You know what happened?
jordan holmes
I really threw you off with the cat thing, didn't I?
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
No, I threw myself off.
I misspoke.
Cernovich is still around.
I forgot that he was held over when Roger Stone shows up.
And the three of them are there.
jordan holmes
Just broin' out.
dan friesen
This next clip is Mike Cernovich sort of explaining what the Kathy Griffin picture was all about.
jordan holmes
Oh.
It wasn't transparent and obvious?
dan friesen
I don't think that you really are able...
To decode it.
jordan holmes
I feel like it wasn't that difficult of an image to process.
dan friesen
Well, I don't know if you came to this conclusion.
mike cernovich
There's a big terrorist connection between Hollywood and ISIS and that Kathy Griffin thing was a direct effigy.
It was a direct unconscious message to ISIS to say that we love you and we worship you and that we adore you.
That was the whole reason she did that.
It was a tribute to ISIS.
dan friesen
Did you come up with that analysis?
jordan holmes
I did not get that one.
That one, you're right.
You're right.
I thought it was a very simple and direct message, and apparently it was a secret communique expressing love for ISIS.
dan friesen
That's because you've had too much fluoride.
You're a sheeple.
jordan holmes
That's right.
I gotta get some deep earth iodine.
dan friesen
So this next clip, Cernovich, says more about the connection with ISIS.
And gotta be honest, it's unfortunate he doesn't know that CNN has already fired her while they're recording this.
mike cernovich
And then by having Kathy Griffin...
Hold that head with all the blood on it.
That was their way of saying, we agree with ISIS.
And of course, the fake news media, CNN has not fired Kathy Griffin, which tells me that CNN therefore supports ISIS.
I can't reach any other conclusion, do you?
jordan holmes
Can't reach another conclusion!
That's the only obvious one!
dan friesen
Alex then says, you're totally right.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But again, they've already fired her.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but it took them at least a few hours.
unidentified
And in that few hours, they signaled that they supported ISIS.
dan friesen
Oh, for sure.
jordan holmes
Everybody knows this.
dan friesen
Oh, for sure.
jordan holmes
I didn't make the connection.
dan friesen
Throw up those beacons.
jordan holmes
I didn't make the connection before.
Now it seems almost too obvious.
Too obvious.
It was too obvious for me to make that connection.
dan friesen
So, in this next clip, we got way more projection.
Just a lot of projection.
Like, he might as well work at a movie theater.
He's doing so much projection.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
But they're coming after us because...
They know prosperity is out-competing their authoritarian model.
jordan holmes
I don't even know what that means.
alex jones
And that's why I have now energetically felt and seen in the last week their full will against us.
I can like feel it being lifted back.
It's still bad, but now it's more of panic.
They don't know what to do.
There are major power forces that are making more money than ever, and they're kind of saying, why are we trying to have austerity and make everybody poor to control them, when Trump's plan and the American system, that's all it is, is a return of that, is so much better.
So the sexiness of America is just too sexy.
People can't turn it down.
And the return of it, they've tried to kill it, they've tried to make it ugly, they've tried to make the architecture ugly, the clothing ugly, everything ugly.
That's been declassified to make you give up and not realize the incredible human potential you've got.
jordan holmes
Who classified that in the first place?
dan friesen
Well, there were things that came out about modern art and stuff like that.
There were CIA operations that had to do with trying to inject random weird things to see if they could get them to be popular.
Do you not know about that?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I don't know enough to speak about it, but I read an article about it a while back.
There is that.
jordan holmes
The CIA is dumb.
That's very unfortunate.
dan friesen
This is also back in the 50s or something like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
They were still sort of figuring out what they were doing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they were still doing MKUltra or whatever.
dan friesen
Yeah, so let's go ahead and try and get people to buy weird paintings.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Sure, CIA.
dan friesen
Yeah, but Alex seems to extrapolate that and pretend that there's even more going on.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
That they're trying to get you to love ugly things, when you, Alex, are trying to sell ugly things.
jordan holmes
If at first you don't succeed, deep earth iodide.
dan friesen
But then he's talking, the thing that is the projecting is that at the beginning of the clip, when he's talking about how, like, I have felt their will, and it's them panicking.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's like, that's you.
That is you, Alex.
jordan holmes
I have felt their will.
That is an interesting way for him to experience his feelings, like, through the prism of somebody else's feeling them.
dan friesen
All negative feelings must be ascribed to the globalists.
jordan holmes
That I didn't figure that one out.
That's pretty fascinating.
dan friesen
Dude, I don't actually know if that's true.
I was just spitballed.
jordan holmes
Now I want to re-listen to a bunch of our episodes to see.
dan friesen
Fuck these last 50 episodes.
jordan holmes
We're going right back to the beginning.
No, that's a really fascinating thing.
dan friesen
I don't know if that's accurate, but it would be interesting to go back and see.
And on my investigation, I'll try and keep note of this.
But the idea that whenever there are negative things, it must be something the globalists are doing to me, as opposed to part of the randomness of life, or just an unintended consequence of some good thing.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Which is a classic symptom of narcissistic personality disorder.
dan friesen
Or just delusions.
jordan holmes
Or schizophrenia.
dan friesen
Or, like, untreated manic depression.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine that.
dan friesen
But he is exhibiting all of these signs.
jordan holmes
This is very clearly a manic episode.
dan friesen
But it's not to say that he is manic depressive.
Even if you aren't, you can still have manic episodes.
jordan holmes
You can still have a manic episode, yeah.
dan friesen
And it could be caused by a long bender, followed by some cocaine.
I gotta get a pick-me-up.
Oh, I'm gonna snort this super male vitality.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he could just be doing coke.
dan friesen
Or super male vitality.
jordan holmes
Boy.
Man, if you cut some coke with super male vitality...
dan friesen
It's a liquid, though.
jordan holmes
Well, see, that's what you do, right?
Take a couple bumps of coke, squirt some super male vitality up there, you get the energy, and you get none of the negative effects of coke, which, sometimes, your dick don't work.
With super male vitality?
Rob Do's wife can agree.
unidentified
Stop taking it.
dan friesen
You do a couple bumps of cocaine and then the super male is the numbers.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Everybody knows this.
jordan holmes
It's been declassified.
dan friesen
It's in the white papers.
We come to our last clip here and it is when Alex Jones, towards the end of the show, accidentally finds out that Kathy Griffin has already been fired.
jordan holmes
You have had that in your back pocket the whole time.
dan friesen
Well, it's the end of what's interesting about this show.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so, I mean, I knew.
jordan holmes
You knew.
dan friesen
I knew.
jordan holmes
You held back the whole time.
dan friesen
Well, no, to be fair, as I was listening to it live, I had seen on Twitter that she had been fired, and so I was like, can't wait for Alex to figure this out, because his whole thing is fucked.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
His whole point, you can't, like, no...
There's no point now.
jordan holmes
Now he's going to have to really try and aggressively push this story to get those shirts sold.
dan friesen
Well, actually, here, I'll play this clip.
He deals with the news in stride.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'll say.
alex jones
Here's the news.
We just retweeted it at Real Alex Jones.
CNN has terminated our agreement with Kathy Griffin to appear on our New Year's Eve program.
Oh, she'll be back.
But the point is, will they terminate all their other reporters saying kill Trump?
We'll go over some of those people.
Will the guy at MSNBC?
Saying, you know, please blow up Trump Tower?
ISIS?
I mean, will he get arrested?
Because that's way worse than what she did.
And I'm not defending her.
I'm just pointing that out.
So we're going to get to that more here in just a moment.
But first off, we need funding.
Let me tell you, if we get robust funding, you won't see $200,000 contests.
You'll see million-dollar contests.
I'm building a half-million-dollar studio, which sounds like a lot.
That's very inexpensive.
dan friesen
So, I mean, like...
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
We found out she's been fired.
Nah, she'll be back.
Nah, she'll be back.
jordan holmes
That's a great...
dan friesen
That's a good dodge.
jordan holmes
That's so great.
dan friesen
That's pretty good.
jordan holmes
That's fucking hilarious.
dan friesen
For the last hour and a half, two hours, I've been screaming about how we're going to ruin her.
She's already been fired.
jordan holmes
Nah, she'll be back.
dan friesen
She'll be back.
And then he...
jordan holmes
Such a great...
dan friesen
He pivots to, like, what about this guy on NBC, or MSNBC, saying that they should attack Trump Towers?
That, again, is Malcolm Nance.
That's not what he's saying.
unidentified
Man, they better cancel those shirts.
dan friesen
He better fucking cancel this contest.
jordan holmes
That's brutal.
dan friesen
He's gonna lose.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
I think we all should get shirts.
Try and take him to the cleaners.
What about doing a comedy show wearing it?
Does that count?
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's a good question.
dan friesen
What if I could get a gig at the Laugh Factory and wear it?
I get a thousand bucks?
That would be great.
jordan holmes
That would be great.
Tweet your pictures of Dan wearing one of those fucking shirts.
dan friesen
As if I'm ever going to perform at the Laugh Factory again.
But then, yeah, I mean, I love it.
Pivot so smoothly into an ad.
unidentified
Pivot so smoothly.
jordan holmes
We need funding.
dan friesen
It's not even an ad so much as it is, like, we need money.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that was not an ad.
That was him with a bare ass.
dan friesen
It does get to eventually him being, like, selling products and what have you, but...
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
He clearly is leading with, give us money.
jordan holmes
We need money.
dan friesen
It's less about, you need the product.
It's more, we need fucking money.
jordan holmes
We need money.
dan friesen
And that's what it comes down to, this whole thing.
He saw this Kathy Griffin thing, he misread it real hard, and thought it was going to be the biggest scandal in the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fucking had a manic episode, talked to Cernovich about it, they came up with this amazing plan, and it's a zero.
jordan holmes
God.
Cernovich is...
unidentified
Oh.
jordan holmes
Man, I hope he loses his job over this.
dan friesen
He doesn't have a job.
He's a freelancer.
jordan holmes
Is he a freelancer?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, I hope he loses his ability to show up on InfoWars again.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, that's true.
I guess he does work at InfoWars.
Because he does do the fourth hour sometimes.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
So, yeah, he has a job there, I guess.
I mean, he doesn't work for Rebel or someone who could fire him.
Because, like, since our last episode, Jack Posobiec got fired from Rebel Media.
Probably because of the Macron leaks, although the internet is pretending it's because he followed his reporting on Seth Rich.
jordan holmes
He's too truthful.
dan friesen
Also, it's come to my attention that Lauren Southern is gone from Rebel Media, who we discussed on the last Investigation episode.
jordan holmes
Poor Southern.
dan friesen
Not sure what she's up to, but still probably some sort of rabble rousing.
Also, what was the other one?
Oh yeah, Leanne McAdoo.
jordan holmes
Certainly not getting a different job in media.
dan friesen
Leanne McAdoo is taking an extended hiatus from InfoWars, which is probably code for she's gone.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with baby.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
Well, that was a good...
dan friesen
How dare you?
jordan holmes
You're just mad.
You're just mad at the idea...
dan friesen
In my heart and in my mind, she is single.
jordan holmes
Leanne is not a virgin.
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm not that guy.
unidentified
I'm not that guy.
dan friesen
But I do believe that she's single.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
unidentified
All right, Dan.
dan friesen
We wouldn't get along.
jordan holmes
No, you...
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
I would say that my hypothetical relationship with Leanne McAdoo would go better than this Kathy Griffin t-shirt contest.
I'm pretty certain of that.
So, good luck, Alex.
I don't think that you're going to be able to distract people from the Russia investigation.
jordan holmes
I don't think you're going to be able to build that studio.
dan friesen
I think that you are doing a spectacular job at distracting your listeners, though, from the fact that you did not pay off the Corsi information.
I don't think that anyone is paying attention to that anymore, because no one else is listening critically.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't think...
unidentified
You know, it's weird to see the occasional...
I went to their subreddit.
dan friesen
I went to the Infowars subreddit, and people weren't talking about it.
jordan holmes
Not at all, huh?
dan friesen
Nope, but people were talking about Kathy Griffin.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course.
dan friesen
Because they're followers.
jordan holmes
Well, you know, the news cycle is so fast now, who knows who might be dead over the weekend?
Could be anybody.
Yesterday, it's Corsi.
Tomorrow, it's Alex Jones.
The day after that, Alex Jones kills Corsi.
Anything could happen.
dan friesen
The thing, though, is if Corsi dies now, there's no gain in it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
Because it's already...
The expiration date is gone.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
You know...
dan friesen
This is a bunch of nonsense.
jordan holmes
This is ridiculous.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I am...
Like...
I don't know what to do.
This is so stupid.
Like, not the show.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I love the show, but, like, the last couple days on Infowars has been, like, what are you doing?
Like, Rick Derringer interviews and shit like that.
jordan holmes
See, no, that just seems fun.
dan friesen
It was kind of fun, but at the same time, it's like, you're supposed to be a hard-hitting news show.
What the fuck is going on here?
And then today with this, like, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Like, we've cut into your regular MSNBC broadcast to bring you...
H.R. Puff and stuff.
dan friesen
Or like a H.R. Puff piece, you know?
Like, it's a...
Talk to aging rocker.
That is absurd.
And then this fucking weird telethon move that he's trying to pull with his t-shirt contest.
It's like, this isn't what I want.
This isn't, like...
I want him saying things that I can disprove.
jordan holmes
Well, we...
We disproved that this shirt is a good idea.
dan friesen
We didn't disprove that.
jordan holmes
I think we disproved that.
dan friesen
I don't think we disproved it.
We've certainly indicated the likelihood that it is.
That's undisprovable.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
CNN is ISIS is not even a claim that's worth disproving because they're not.
That's ridiculous.
jordan holmes
That's a pretty simple...
Let me ask you a question.
How much research did you have to do before you came to the conclusion that CNN is not actually ISIS?
dan friesen
Pretty much none.
jordan holmes
None?
dan friesen
None.
jordan holmes
I think that's why you're really unhappy.
You don't have...
You're just like, goddammit, I want to research the dumb shit you say.
dan friesen
Well, it's fun for me when I can come to the episodes and be like, you busted.
Alex, that is not why the NRA started.
Those sorts of things are really fun.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This is still fun to laugh at his dumbass.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But at the same time, it's like, I don't have statistics to back up that giving t-shirts to the homeless as walking billboards is a bad business strategy.
I just assume that it is because I wouldn't buy anything that's advertised on a human.
jordan holmes
Those words out loud are a bad business strategy.
Well, here's what I'm a little bit concerned about, is the more this goes on, the less we are combating right-wing propaganda, and the more we're laughing at a mentally ill person.
dan friesen
Yeah, that is true.
I mean, he'll be back off this manic episode certainly before too long.
You know, they don't last too long, usually.
jordan holmes
A couple weeks?
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
I mean, depending.
Like, I'm type one, so who knows?
dan friesen
You can catch me in 2015 for the next couple weeks, because I am sick of this shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we might be doing a lot more time travel episodes here.
dan friesen
We'll see.
But anyway, you can catch us, guys.
Oh, I want to say this.
If you go to knowledgefight.com, on the homepage, there are now three links on the actual page.
They're direct links.
To the autobiographical pieces of Alex Jones' life, the lie files, and the new calendar that has the breakdowns of episodes.
Please go check those out.
jordan holmes
Look at the calendar.
That shit's nuts.
dan friesen
It's interesting, I think.
jordan holmes
The comprehension.
dan friesen
If you're crazy, like me, it's interesting.
But yeah, anyway, you can also follow us on Twitter.
jordan holmes
At knowledge underscore fight.
dan friesen
Correct.
We're on iTunes at knowledge fight and please leave us a review, a rating.
jordan holmes
Send us an email at knowledgefight at gmail.com.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Is Corsi dead?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
So he's a lot like a certain friend we know.
dan friesen
Someone hasn't been seen in a while.
jordan holmes
Somebody who's definitely not dead either.
dan friesen
No, but he's in the wings.
jordan holmes
He is.
I wonder where he's hovering.
dan friesen
Ooh, tomorrow is Thursday.
jordan holmes
Ooh, there we go.
dan friesen
He might have a shift.
unidentified
And then we will know.
We might find out.
Rebel Board still lives!
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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