Today, Dan tells Jordan about the second stage of his investigation into how Alex Jones came to be a part of Team Trump, covering the period of June 19-July 5. Topics include: Does Alex finally actually mention Trump? Was John Wilkes Booth a false flag? What can one learn from a Chik-Fil-A billboard?
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple of dudes who like to sit around and drink novelty beverages and talk about the wacky, wacky world of Alex Jones. | ||
| What are we drinking today? | ||
| Today we are drinking Flathead Lake Gourmet Huckleberry Soda. | ||
| It's Montana's legendary soda in honor of... | ||
| You know, that asshole body slamming reporter and then winning! | ||
| Right! | ||
| Hey! | ||
| Montana's legendary soda! | ||
| With any luck, this soda... | ||
| It'll punch you in the mouth! | ||
| This soda's better than the feelings that I have about Montana at this point. | ||
| Hopefully. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| I'm gonna take a sip and hopefully my throat will not become part of the rest of the ground. | ||
| Whoa, boy. | ||
| Whoa, boy. | ||
| This is interesting. | ||
| This is candy. | ||
| This is gross. | ||
| Oh, my... | ||
| Fucking God! | ||
| What is happening? | ||
| It's not a terrible flavor. | ||
| No, it tastes like... | ||
| Have you ever put a lot of sugar after you put the Kool-Aid mix in there? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That is exactly what this tastes like. | ||
| There are similarities. | ||
| So anyway, let's move on to Alex Jones. | ||
| This is a podcast about Alex Jones. | ||
| Is this a podcast about Alex Jones? | ||
| It is. | ||
| There's a twist. | ||
| This is not just about Alex Jones. | ||
| Okay, there's a twist to it. | ||
| This is a podcast about our relative awareness about Alex Jones, wherein I know tons about Alex Jones. | ||
| And relative to that, I know nothing. | ||
| You know only the slimmest margin. | ||
| I will. | ||
| At this point, after as many episodes as we've done, I know a whole lot more than I ever expected or wanted to know before we started this. | ||
| Certainly, and I'm sorry to bring that into your life. | ||
| No, this is a whole new level of anxiety that I wasn't aware of. | ||
| We're going to get to today's episode, but first, I would like to start things off as we generally do with an out-of-context drop from Alex Jones. | ||
| Don't laugh! | ||
| Don't laugh! | ||
| Because this is what they do to people in the public schools. | ||
| They don't let the teachers teach. | ||
| Don't blame them. | ||
| This is what they teach. | ||
| This is what they teach is ignorance. | ||
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Hey! | |
| Don't laugh. | ||
| Don't laugh. | ||
| That's some solid work. | ||
| That is great. | ||
| There's no way that he can ever start any sentence with don't laugh that does not make me immediately lose my shit. | ||
| Instantly hilarious. | ||
| Don't laugh. | ||
| Of course I'm going to laugh. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we're going to get to the episode, but first, I'd like to give a shout out to one of our donators. | ||
| What's up, Dr. Gums? | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
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| Welcome aboard, Dr. Gumbs. | ||
| So, Jordan, today we are going into part two of my in-depth investigation to what the fuck happened to Alex Jones back in 2015. | ||
| When did it all go south? | ||
| And why? | ||
| And why? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I think I'm going to try and read between the lines as best I can and figure out exactly what happened. | ||
| How about just tell us why and then we'll save everybody several hours? | ||
| It's more fun if we have a journey. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| So on our last episode of the investigation, we started the investigation, but coincidentally, the day after Trump announced his candidacy, the Charleston shooting happened. | ||
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Right. | |
| And so our first investigation episode really became About that, plus the interview with Larry Nichols, which I believe is the kickoff in earnest of Alex's hero's journey, as it were, in the 2016 election season. | ||
| This is going to be a little bit more focused on the investigation. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That one we had to deal with, Charleston. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so now we've moved on a little bit. | ||
| We're going to be covering the time span of June 19th, 2015, up to July 5th. | ||
| Oh, Jesus! | ||
| We're going to town! | ||
| To be fair, David Knight hosted a bunch of them. | ||
| Okay, well, then that doesn't even count. | ||
| Alex was at his cousin Buckley's wedding for, like, four days of it, and so David Knight was hosting, and we're not going to talk about it. | ||
| It doesn't get more Texan than, I'm going to my cousin Buckley's wedding. | ||
| For four days. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So David Knight hosting, we don't talk about that shit here because we don't want to bore our audience. | ||
| And then on top of that, June 29th, we're not going to be covering that at all because it has nothing to do... | ||
| With the presidential election. | ||
| And we did an entire episode about it, which you can find in our iTunes feed if you'd like. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It was a good one. | ||
| It was a side shoot off of... | ||
| Like I'm going to say it was terrible. | ||
| That one sucked. | ||
| That was our worst episode to date. | ||
| So listener Jan asked us to go back to when gay marriage got passed by the Supreme Court. | ||
| And that episode ended up being the June 29th. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So that's why we won't be covering that. | ||
| But I have some very interesting findings to lay out for you and for our listeners. | ||
| I'm excited to get to all of them. | ||
| We're going to begin here. | ||
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Trump announced his candidacy on June 16th. | |
| Yes. | ||
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And at the same time, he made those horrible, disparaging comments about Mexico shipping us a bunch of our terrible people, and they're not sending their best, that sort of stuff. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Presidential shit right there. | ||
| So that happened on the 16th. | ||
| Redefining what it means to be presidential. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| On that day, Donald Trump became president. | ||
| Unfortunately, you're kind of right. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| So that was three days before where we're starting. | ||
| And up until this point, on the 18th, 17th, Alex has had nothing about Donald Trump. | ||
| He's had nothing at all about him. | ||
| Has he been talking about the election, though? | ||
| Not really, except for saying that Hillary is evil. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| We all expected that. | ||
| There doesn't need to be an election or anything going on for him to just throw in a little bit of a, Hillary's a vampire, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| He is on that tip. | ||
| Witches. | ||
| Witches. | ||
| Spoiler alert, Larry Nichols will be making another appearance on this episode. | ||
| God, I'm beginning to love our regular communications with Larry Nichols. | ||
| We might want to try and call him. | ||
| We're definitely going to call him. | ||
| I will be completely silent for this because I'm starting to be really afraid of him. | ||
| Of Stevie Larry Nicks? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What's going on with him? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I just... | ||
| I don't want to fuck around. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| We'll get to him, and then we'll... | ||
| God damn it, I want to fuck around with a weird old southern dude who's in his 70s on his deathbed. | ||
| Well, let's deal with that. | ||
| Think about the insanity he's seen. | ||
| So much. | ||
| Especially stuff that isn't real. | ||
| Yeah, and think about the stuff that he's caused. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So we're going to start with June 19th, where Alex was at, what he was talking about. | ||
| He's still... | ||
| Wrestling a little bit with the Charleston shooting at this point. | ||
| He's still giving a lot of, like, if you believe this stuff, you're an idiot. | ||
| You know, all these race issues are just meant to distract us. | ||
| Is he still on the false flag tip? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Dropping Reverend Childress's name, being like... | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| He's got my back. | ||
| A black dude said something, so I am free of guilt! | ||
| Yeah, and so the only thing I wanted to pull from this episode, because there's not really anything worthwhile, is this clip. | ||
| Where Alex has a huge gun on his desk. | ||
| I don't like that at all. | ||
| He has a giant gun on his anchor desk. | ||
| No, thank you. | ||
| That is a hostile work environment. | ||
| At least. | ||
| I will tweet a picture out of it because it's hilarious. | ||
| It's one of those giant rifles. | ||
| Oh, like one of those big sniper rifles that they would choose from? | ||
| I don't know if it's a sniper rifle, but it's like a... | ||
| Oh, okay, okay. | ||
| And it's coincidentally made by one of his sponsors. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| Stuff's getting weird. | ||
| Thanks for joining us on this Friday edition. | ||
| Alex Jones here live. | ||
| I'll be live this Sunday, 4 to 6 p.m. Central. | ||
| You're watching us on TV. | ||
| I have two HD firearms, two head-down firearms, both 5-5-6 in front of me. | ||
| I call them face-down, ass-up firearms. | ||
| These guns aren't going to shoot anybody. | ||
| These rifles, these weapons aren't going to attack anybody by themselves. | ||
| And I know that's an idiotically obvious thing to say, but... | ||
| Look at the logic of the people demonizing gun owners. | ||
| They're now saying gun ownership is racist. | ||
| No. | ||
| Disarming black people in the South at the end of the Civil War, that was racist. | ||
| The first gun laws were racist. | ||
| Saying the NRA was a racist organization is, again, upside down. | ||
| It's a total fraud. | ||
| I'm not even going to get into the NRA's history. | ||
| But everybody who's informed knows it was founded to arm blacks to fight the Ku Klux Klan. | ||
| Again. | ||
| And the party of the Ku Klux Klan, the Democrats, won our guns. | ||
| Fake laugh. | ||
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Fake laugh. | |
| Big time. | ||
| So, at the end there, he's saying that the Democrats are the party of the KKK, not taking into account the party swap that happened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, the great change after the Civil Rights Act, wherein LBJ himself said that we have lost the South for... | ||
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Forever. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What a shocker. | ||
| He never mentions that because the Democratic Party back then was not what they are today. | ||
| It's a wonderful thing that everybody, like... | ||
| They should have changed their name. | ||
| On the right, there's a beautiful, like, always, you know, like, hey, man, after the Civil War, the Democrats were the racist. | ||
| How can you call the GOP racist now? | ||
| Because it used to be the Democrats. | ||
| Well, one, it's not 150 years ago. | ||
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No. | |
| That's a big step first off. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And two, because you accepted those people who left the Democrats, like, with open arms. | ||
| Just, we love you! | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Please! | ||
| He's the South. | ||
| Now, beyond that, the Democrats don't want your guns. | ||
| That's an illusion that you have in your head. | ||
| That's a paranoid fear narrative. | ||
| Well, I'm starting to think that we should get their guns. | ||
| Or at least get our own guns. | ||
| I would just like those guns off Alex Jones' desk. | ||
| Because he is doing this as a plug. | ||
| I would like them out of my dreams and into his car. | ||
| We've established on a past show that Head Down Rifles is a sponsor of the Alex Jones show. | ||
| He's mentioned them when Joe Biggs cucked out the Pope. | ||
| When the Pope said that people who sell weapons aren't Christians. | ||
| And Joe Biggs did a special report about how Head Down Rifles is owned by Christians, and they're sponsored, and they're great. | ||
| Done and done. | ||
| Fuck you, Pope. | ||
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Done. | |
| Problem solved. | ||
| Now, beyond that, this idea that the NRA was founded to arm black people against the KKK? | ||
| That has the ring of truth to it. | ||
| I believe that 100%. | ||
| That makes perfect sense to me. | ||
| Please, Dan, go ahead and prove that Alex Jones was absolutely historically correct. | ||
| I don't even have to. | ||
| He just is. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Well, then we're good. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| So that is based on a comment that a guy named Harry Alford made. | ||
| Oh, are you saying that his entire argument is based on what one dude said one time? | ||
| So Harry Alford was the president of the National Black Chamber of Commerce. | ||
| And in 2008, he was quoted as saying, quote, I want to thank the Lord for our constitution. | ||
| I also want to thank the NRA for its legacy. | ||
| The National Rifle Association was started, founded by religious leaders who wanted to protect freed slaves from the Ku Klux Klan. | ||
| So that is just his comment that he's made, and it has been wildly debunked by everyone who's looked into it. | ||
| People have asked him to prove his claim, and he's cited all kinds of stuff that doesn't prove his claim at all. | ||
| Did he cite that one time Alex Jones cited him in saying it? | ||
| That would be great. | ||
| Because that's a Breitbart, InfoWars kind of feedback loop thing going on there. | ||
| He did cite a speech by Ann Coulter, which we'll get to in a second. | ||
| Great! | ||
| Bastion of historical accuracy, Ann Coulter. | ||
| So I'd like to quote what the NRA says was the beginning of their organization from their own website. | ||
| I bet it's, we love black people. | ||
| Yeah, which would be good PR for them if that was true. | ||
| Well, they would just tell us. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| The NRA's website says, quote, Dismayed by the lack of marksmanship shown by their troops, Union veterans Colonel William C. Church and General George Wingate formed the National Rifle Association in 1871. | ||
| The primary goal of the association would be to, quote, promote and encourage rifle shooting on a scientific basis. | ||
| So basically they were concerned that they were losing too many bullets because they were going out to war and people weren't good shots and that shit was expensive. | ||
| Yeah, that doesn't sound evil. | ||
| It seems economic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It seems like a good plan. | ||
| It's basically them being like, hey, we don't train people well enough, so let's do some more training. | ||
| And the roots of the NRA actually was largely educational, and it wasn't nearly as terrible as it is today. | ||
| But still, it was promoting... | ||
| I don't think promoting guns is wrong. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's murky. | ||
| It was started shortly after the Civil War. | ||
| 1871. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Back then, guns were muskets. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, they were, like, they might as well have been slingshots, but that shoot farther. | ||
| You don't really have too much control over where their bullets were going. | ||
| You have to, like, put the ball down in there. | ||
| I don't even know if they even had, like, the, you know, screw-side barrels or whatever the hell they're called that would improve accuracy there instead of just that, like... | ||
| Explosion outward and let's all hope for the best. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, back to this thing about the NRA being founded to help arm black people against the KKK. | ||
| Ann Coulter's speech was used by this Harry Alford when he was asked for, you know, proof. | ||
| And she made an argument about this organization called the Black Guard and a guy named Robert F. Williams, who was a civil rights activist. | ||
| And if you look actually at the truth... | ||
| So we're close to 80 years after the invention of the KKK? | ||
| Substantially, yeah. | ||
| Actually, almost a bullseye. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So in 1956, Robert F. Williams... | ||
| So 80 years after the NRA, we can state that when the NRA was created, they were like, hey, in 80 years. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| We're going to need to be there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's actually really interesting and actually works against the argument. | ||
| Shocker. | ||
| So in 1956, Robert F. Williams took over leadership of the local chapter of the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People, which was close to disbanding due to the KKK. | ||
| Williams filed for a charter with the NRA and formed the Black Guard, an armed group committed to the protection of blacks. | ||
| Mabel Williams said her husband altered the occupations of the members when applying for the NRA charter. | ||
| And she's quoted, I'm sure when we joined and the years after then, had they have known that we were a black group, they would have revoked our charter. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| They basically just lied about it and started an NRA chapter. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| Why wouldn't you do that? | ||
| But that works pretty solidly against the argument that everyone who's aware of things knows that it was started to help the black people. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| Like most times whenever white people have decided to help black people, they were tricked into it because they would never willingly do it on their own. | ||
| History is grim. | ||
| Yeah, not good. | ||
| Well, and it's not a bad thing. | ||
| During the Civil Rights era, one of the big things that the Black Panthers would do is watch with a shit ton of guns whenever a cop arrested a black dude in the South. | ||
| Like, they would just go hang out. | ||
| Like, hey. | ||
| If he did a crime, he did a crime. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| If you go beyond what it is you're supposed to go beyond, guess what? | ||
| There's ten dudes with guns here. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Or when people were doing renewal projects, fixing things, when they would be attacked by racist assholes, they would have armed guards. | ||
| I remember reading a bunch about that, like putting up a stop sign in a neighborhood. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| They would keep trying to put up this stop sign, and people who were putting it up would get attacked. | ||
| And so finally they just send out armed people. | ||
| What else do you do? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Like, that's the situation that all too often everybody found themselves in over the years in the civil rights era. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, fuck it. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| All of the America time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the situation black people have found themselves in. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| They keep getting pushed and pushed and pushed. | ||
| Sooner or later, what other thing can you think of other than, if you're going to threaten us with guns, we're going to... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, what else is there? | ||
| Seems reasonable. | ||
| Which is, again, why I'm in the place now where I'm looking at all of our liberals being like, we should control guns, and I'm more like, maybe we should fucking get guns. | ||
| Maybe we should control a gun in our hands. | ||
| Because they are starting to really talk Civil War shit at us. | ||
| I think that it's a myth that there aren't armed liberals and liberals who are into guns. | ||
| I think that's a myth. | ||
| I just think that the right is far more vocal about it. | ||
| But be that as it may, that's a whole other thing. | ||
| We don't need to unpack it. | ||
| No, it's time to get into gun control right now. | ||
| We don't have time. | ||
| This is an in-depth investigation. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So the rest of the episode on the 19th. | ||
| Look, after the break, we're going to get into the in-depth investigation. | ||
| But for now, let's solve the Second Amendment. | ||
| I don't have any papers to jostle. | ||
| So, there we go. | ||
| Good enough. | ||
| The rest of the episode on the 19th is just a bunch of going back and forth on, is this fake? | ||
| Is this real? | ||
| Then he has a long interview with one Jesse Ventura, former governor of Minnesota. | ||
| He is in the middle of being sued. | ||
| Over the Chris Kyle. | ||
| Are those his only credits? | ||
| Was he only the governor of Minnesota one time? | ||
| There it is! | ||
| Also the brain. | ||
| No, it wasn't the brain. | ||
| That was Bobby Heenan. | ||
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I believe he was in Predator 2. He was in a lot of stuff. | |
| But he... | ||
| So, Chris Kyle, American sniper, in his book, he wrote that he beat up Jesse Ventura. | ||
| Famed liar, Chris Kyle. | ||
| In his book, he wrote that he beat up Jesse Ventura in a bar fight after Jesse mouthed off about Marines. | ||
| That story is very dubious. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And Jesse Ventura sued him for unjust enrichment, slander, these sorts of things. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| You made a shit ton of money off of talking shit about me, so I want some of that money. | ||
| It went to a court trial, and there was a jury, and the jury deliberated for five days and couldn't come to a verdict, and ended up ruling in Jesse's favor eight to two after five days. | ||
| And they were just like, right, good enough. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| His estate, because Chris Kyle dies, spoiler alert, he gets murdered. | ||
| But his estate... | ||
| Aw, damn it, now I'll never watch that jingoistic pile of garbage called American Sniper now. | ||
| I don't recommend it. | ||
| Oh, fucking brutal. | ||
| His estate appeals the judgment. | ||
| The judgment that was made was like $1.35 million for Jesse Ventura, plus $500,000 of unjust enrichment. | ||
| So it's $1.8 million that Jesse Ventura is going to get. | ||
| Some good money. | ||
| The estate appeals it. | ||
| And that's when Jesse is showing up on the show, when the appeal is pending. | ||
| He's coming on because he's like, I need money. | ||
| I need your audience to help me out. | ||
| I need my legal defense fund because I need to fight this thing. | ||
| And the way he presents it is that tons of media organizations are promoting this appeal. | ||
| He's trying to appeal to Alex's audience on the basis of, like, Viacom. | ||
| 20th Century Fox, Fox, ABC, CBS, New York Times, they're all behind this because they want to be able to lie about people and make money off it. | ||
| The reality is that the estate made an appeal and Jesse ends up losing that appeal. | ||
| That's such a bummer. | ||
| Why is it a bummer? | ||
| Well, I mean, for my relationship with Jesse Ventura. | ||
| Like, I thought he was a fun, kind of nutty dude who, he probably had some good ideas. | ||
| Like, I remember people saying some nice stuff about him. | ||
| He's in the same boat as Alex, but not a propagandist. | ||
| Because he has a lot of really dumbass ideas, but at the same time, he's really philosophically consistent about his support of legalizing weed. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| Maybe 10% more than Alex, and he's not an asshole. | ||
| Well, now that he's on the Alex Jones show, I'm of the opinion that he is an asshole. | ||
| But why wouldn't he be? | ||
| I mean, if you're a libertarian... | ||
| So many reasons. | ||
| If you're a prominent libertarian, I really wouldn't... | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| You shouldn't go on his show. | ||
| You shouldn't go on Alex Jones' show! | ||
| But who cares? | ||
| But anyway, so the reason... | ||
| Let me tell you something. | ||
| If he runs for governor of Minnesota again... | ||
| Not voting? | ||
| I am not going to vote for him. | ||
| I'm on the same page. | ||
| So, he's on there making this argument, and I read the court decision of his appeals case that comes later, down the road. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it turns out he lost the appeal because he makes this exact same argument on Alex's show a whole bunch, and he did in court as well. | ||
| And the argument that he made is, you guys should vote for me, jury, you guys should choose me, rule in my favor, because they have an insurance policy that's going to handle this. | ||
| HarperCollins has an insurance company. | ||
| That's going to pay the settlement. | ||
| You're not screwing over the family. | ||
| I've been slandered, and it doesn't hurt them if you vote in my favor. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It turns out that is very bad. | ||
| Was that true, though? | ||
| There's no evidence of it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, that's a bad argument. | ||
| The appeals court found that there's no evidence. | ||
| They looked at Chris Kyle's contract with HarperCollins, and the only thing they could find is one line in it that says they may have insurance. | ||
| But it doesn't say that they do. | ||
| They may have insurance. | ||
| Yeah, and they found no evidence that such an insurance policy does exist. | ||
| And the fact that he brought it up in court and his lawyers made that argument unfairly biases the jury against Chris Kyle's estate. | ||
| Well, yeah, of course. | ||
| I would not want to screw over a widow. | ||
| No. | ||
| But at the same time, if I knew that I was going to screw over a corporation... | ||
| That's a very different response. | ||
| Yeah, the stakes are lower because it's a faceless entity that has millions of dollars. | ||
| And also, fuck those guys. | ||
| Yeah, fuck them. | ||
| Well, I mean, it is the traditional print industry, so we don't need to help them along their demise. | ||
| Yeah, but that's the twisting that Jesse's doing when he's on the show. | ||
| And I didn't pull any clips of that because who cares? | ||
| I really don't need to hear that obfuscation. | ||
| But at the same time, Alex is starting to play a little game of, Jesse, you should run for president. | ||
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Oh! | |
| He's trying to pitch Jesse Ventura, you need to get in the race. | ||
| And Jesse's argument is, I want to wait until there's just two. | ||
| I want to wait until there's two people in it. | ||
| I have name recognition. | ||
| I think I remember this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I think I remember him having that conversation. | ||
| And he keeps saying, I've got this appeal to take care of, and if I win, then I'll probably join the race, and if I lose, that's it. | ||
| And he did. | ||
| And he lost? | ||
| And that was it. | ||
| Yeah, so maybe. | ||
| Maybe that's what happened. | ||
| So that is the 19th. | ||
| That was a Friday. | ||
| There's no show on Saturday. | ||
| He takes Saturdays off. | ||
| So we come back on the 21st. | ||
| So the 21st is a Sunday. | ||
| I've started to notice that what Alex Jones does on Sundays is he knows that there's less people listening. | ||
| So he uses it to end and start narratives. | ||
| And also to bury stories that he kind of hopes no one will really pay attention to. | ||
| Right, late Friday news where everybody's already sick of. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| A couple Sundays recently, he's used to make the Pizzagate apology. | ||
| He's covered reporting on that. | ||
| He's, on another recent Sunday, he's talked about how Chobani violated the terms of their settlement agreement. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| He does that sort of thing. | ||
| And also... | ||
| Whenever a narrative has run out of steam, ends it on a Sunday. | ||
| Whenever he wants to soft launch a new one, he does it on Sunday. | ||
| So on this Sunday, he knows that the Charleston narrative is kind of going away. | ||
| So he uses Sunday to, like, let's land that ship. | ||
| Let's just come in. | ||
| So he has an interview with Jakari Jackson, who's in Charleston. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| It's awesome. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| It's actually really awesome. | ||
| I love Jakari Jackson. | ||
| Well, as we all know now, he's a comic writer, and apparently he seems pretty interesting. | ||
| Yeah, and his comic book is about a boy who lives in a fantasy world. | ||
| Odd. | ||
| Odd where he could have gotten some inspiration for that. | ||
| No clue. | ||
| So he is in Charleston, and he's talking about how beautiful the church service that he went to at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church was the night before. | ||
| He's talking about how there's a lot of unity, and everybody is in great spirits, and it's a beautiful thing to witness. | ||
| And he also is talking about how it's super fucked up that there's a monument to a white supremacist. | ||
| supremacist a block away from the church. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| He's talking about how it's like, I don't understand how that can be. | ||
| I understand it's free speech and, you know, I don't want to encroach on people, but it's really bizarre that we live in this world. | ||
| That's like this. | ||
| He's talking about how that night, There's going to be a march across this historic bridge. | ||
| Everyone's going to be holding hands and it's going to be this beautiful thing. | ||
| And Jakari, he has the right idea about it for the most part. | ||
| Meanwhile, Alex keeps being like, now what about this race war that's coming? | ||
| Oh, so are we seeing the beginning of the end of Jakari Jackson's role at Infowars? | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I think that sounds like a big turning point. | ||
| I see two conflicting forces here where Alex wants to focus on the negative and Jakari is really focusing on these positive things. | ||
| And I think it's really cool. | ||
| That was his literal come-to-Jesus moment at a church. | ||
| At a church wake. | ||
| Possibly. | ||
| I don't know when he ends up quitting. | ||
| I don't know the story of that. | ||
| We'll find out more as this investigation goes. | ||
| So that's the sort of, I believe, basically the end of the Charleston narrative. | ||
| He's got Jakari there live. | ||
| We've gone. | ||
| We've done it. | ||
| Jakari isn't playing ball with my racehorse shit. | ||
| Yeah, he's not going along with it. | ||
| So fuck it. | ||
| Let's end that narrative. | ||
| And Alex decides it's time for the new narrative, which is an incredibly intense... | ||
| And prolonged argument that financial collapse is coming this summer. | ||
| Of 2015? | ||
| Yes, it's right around the corner. | ||
| Over the course of the next couple days on the show, he has a bunch of people who are supposed experts. | ||
| He has Ron Paul on. | ||
| He has Peter Schiff, who is Ron Paul's economic advisor. | ||
| He has a bunch of people on. | ||
| And it's all about how the dollar is about to collapse. | ||
| And how we're all going to be fucked. | ||
| Should we buy gold? | ||
| We're going to get to that. | ||
| Should we buy gold? | ||
| We're going to get to that. | ||
| I bet we should buy gold. | ||
| It's so fucked up that you know where this is going. | ||
| Well, his parent company is all about gold. | ||
| Of course we're going to buy gold. | ||
| Don't spoil it. | ||
| Gold! | ||
| We already saw this on the... | ||
| You are so fucking on it. | ||
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Well, it was the Y2K thing again. | |
| Why would you push this disaster narrative? | ||
| Oh, well, I guess I'm also selling... | ||
| Apocalypse applies, you know? | ||
| Like, of course you're gonna push this narrative there. | ||
| This is what we've already, because you're a genius, you've already spoiled where that narrative ends and why he's pushing it so hard, but the way it ends is probably worse than you think. | ||
| It's even more exploitative than what you're saying. | ||
| Well, now I'm excited. | ||
| So we'll get to that maybe in an hour and a half. | ||
|
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Well, it's because... | |
| Spoiler alert! | ||
| Alex Jones is out to sell gold. | ||
| Keep that in the back of your mind. | ||
| So he started this disaster collapse narrative and he talks a ton about it and it is really focused around gold stuff. | ||
| The main stories that he's pushing are about how Texas and a bunch of institutions want their gold back and people aren't giving it back. | ||
| From the reserves and what have you. | ||
| How do you give gold back? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not giving gold back, baby! | ||
| It's like, we don't trust you guys holding our gold. | ||
| We want to hold it ourselves. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| Human beings are weird. | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| Human beings are so weird. | ||
| Gold doesn't have any intrinsic value. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| It doesn't do anything. | ||
| It does, actually. | ||
| It's shiny. | ||
| You can use it for a lot of, like, semiconductors and stuff like that. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| It's amazing in electronics. | ||
| It does all kinds of amazing things. | ||
| It does zero amazing things sitting in a vault somewhere. | ||
| Yeah, but much like colloidal silver. | ||
| If you have colloidal gold... | ||
| I did not know there was colloidal gold. | ||
| There's colloidal everything! | ||
| What is colloidal everything? | ||
| Someone on Twitter explained it to me recently. | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| It has something to do with, like... | ||
| Colloids. | ||
| It has something to do with it being suspended in a solution or something like that. | ||
| I'm not entirely sure. | ||
| I'm not a chemist. | ||
| Anyway, it's all this gold narrative. | ||
| It's about, like, people are trying to get gold out of banks and they're getting bars of tungsten covered in gold. | ||
| Shit like that. | ||
| So, there is... | ||
| There is one, like, legitimate story of that. | ||
| That is fucking hilarious. | ||
| Yeah, so he's really pitching that hard, but on this Sunday show, he says something that I think is involved in his abortion narrative, but I'm not sure, but I could not do this show without playing this clip, because it's so weird. | ||
|
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Okay. | |
| Listen to this argument he tries to make, and just recognize... | ||
| How fucking dumb he is while he's trying to talk about how smart he is. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| I want to shift gears into the psychological warfare. | ||
| The manipulation. | ||
| And I'm going to begin this breakdown by talking about a billboard on I-35 in downtown Austin that I'm going to send a crew out to videotape tomorrow. | ||
| Because if you understand that billboard, you understand everything. | ||
| Now, I'm not an enemy of Chick-fil-A. | ||
| They're a conservative Christian organization. | ||
| I think overall it's a good company that hasn't bowed to censorship. | ||
| And I'm not criticizing Chick-fil-A itself, but I'm using their ad campaign as a window into guilt politics. | ||
| Now, chicken is about four times cheaper on average than beef. | ||
| And they set up their little Texas-based company in shopping malls 30-something years ago, and it's spread nationwide and is very successful. | ||
| So we're not talking about Chick-fil-A. | ||
| But on their billboard, I meant to get a photo of it, but it was too dangerous driving. | ||
| See, that's why. | ||
| It shows cows up there painting the sign, and they've drawn a little children's-style image of a chicken, and they say, eat this, not this, with an arrow pointed at them. | ||
| And the cows look real, but they also look humanoid. | ||
| So they've humanized them, and the chicken doesn't look like a life form at all. | ||
| It's been downgraded to nothing. | ||
| Like you do a baby in the womb, you call it just a blob. | ||
| So the chicken looks like a two-year-old druid, just a yellow dot, a yellow blob with two eyes. | ||
| And it's perfect. | ||
| And it plays on your guilt of not wanting to hurt an animal when you eat it. | ||
| So it's saying, go eat our chicken. | ||
| It's not as advanced a life form as a cow. | ||
| And I guarantee you, you go talk to whoever came up with that ad campaign, they'll say, yeah, that's exactly what the ad campaign is. | ||
| See, the average person would not look at that. | ||
| I was in a carload of adults. | ||
| One day we drove by it, and then a day with my children, and no one knew what the propaganda was. | ||
| And I said, come on, you're smart. | ||
| You know what it is. | ||
| And see, that's the difference between me and other people. | ||
| I'm not special, I just know how they operate, so it's all clear. | ||
| So many more than chicken commercials. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
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So, he's mad about it? | |
| No, he just thinks it's propaganda that has to do with abortion somehow. | ||
| Because you don't want to eat this animal, so you go for the blob, because the blob is dehumanized, the chicken. | ||
| Now, what he's not taking into account... | ||
| Is the entire point of the ad campaign that has to do with those cows is that the cows are drawing the billboards. | ||
| Yeah, did he not get that? | ||
| They have hooves. | ||
| Did he not get any of that? | ||
| The handwriting is really bad because they're using hooves to write on the billboards and they couldn't draw a chicken. | ||
| He couldn't figure that out? | ||
| That's the bit. | ||
| What does he think is going on there? | ||
| It's a really... | ||
| Actually, I... | ||
| It's a good ad campaign. | ||
| Fuck Chick-fil-A. | ||
| It's a brilliant ad campaign. | ||
| It is a brilliant ad campaign. | ||
| The idea that these cows are trying... | ||
| save their lives by selling out chickens is really good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And I actually read an article in Adweek about the creation of this ad campaign because I was curious. | |
| So Alex said like if you ask the guy who started this campaign he'd tell you that's the propaganda. | ||
| So then you were like I wonder if anybody asked the guy who invented this campaign. | ||
| Yeah it turns out that Chick-fil-A had a really small advertising budget and they couldn't whenever they wanted to get outside of shopping malls because that's where they started just like a Sbarro. | ||
| Or whatever shit is in the mall. | ||
| And the Auntie Anne's Pretzels. | ||
| Ah! | ||
| I've never had one. | ||
| Because malls are the devil. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But they were in malls and they wanted to get freestanding stores. | ||
| And they wanted to start advertising. | ||
| But they couldn't fucking compete with anybody. | ||
| Because they had no budget. | ||
| So what they did is they're like, fuck, we can't get commercials. | ||
| It's not really going to work out. | ||
| Billboards are cheap. | ||
| Comparatively. | ||
| So they started doing... | ||
| Billboard advertisements, and they wanted to get some 3D aspects in it, and they made a bunch of pretty interesting ideas, but they were all kind of like, it's good, it's not good enough. | ||
| So they came up with one, where it was three quarters of the billboard is done, and it's like a chicken sandwich, and it's just a normal billboard, and then the last quarter of it is white. | ||
| The people designing it just had stopped. | ||
| And it says, boss, got hungry, be back later. | ||
| On the last part of the billboard, and then they have a 3D ladder going up to that, so people driving by, it would get their attention. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that was like, okay, this is an interesting concept, but we can do better. | ||
| And around this time, Simpsons were super huge, and Bart's catchphrase was, don't have a cow, man. | ||
| And so they wanted to incorporate that somehow, these ad wizards who were coming up with this stuff. | ||
| Yes, the madmen. | ||
| And so they started to think about, like, don't have a cow. | ||
| Alright, yeah, don't eat cows, eat chicken. | ||
| And so they started a couple- You are doing an amazing reenactment of this. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| You're sitting- I can see it in your eyes right now. | ||
| You're sitting in that ad room right here. | ||
| I'm waiting for you to describe the small boardroom that they- like, maybe there's a whiteboard. | ||
| Maybe they've got some paper on the wall just writing down ideas. | ||
| No, that's terrible! | ||
| So eventually what they came up with, because I am going too far and too long on this, but what they ended up coming up with was don't have a cow. | ||
| Who doesn't want you to have cows? | ||
| Obviously cows don't. | ||
| And there we go. | ||
| Cows don't want to be eaten. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| So what would they do? | ||
| They would tell you to eat chickens. | ||
| A carousel. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| It's your family. | ||
| Advertising is fucking stupid. | ||
| You're not selling. | ||
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Right. | |
| Carousel, you're selling memories. | ||
| It's not about abortion. | ||
| Of cows. | ||
| It's not about abortion. | ||
| It's about abortion! | ||
| How do you not see that propaganda behind it, right? | ||
| Okay, you have cows. | ||
| They don't want to be eaten. | ||
| So they know that if they anthropomorphize themselves, because here's the truth of this, these cows are actually super intelligent. | ||
| We know that. | ||
| They're building billboards. | ||
| Oh, that's a good point. | ||
| So they're lying to you. | ||
| They're pretending to be these... | ||
| The hoof is a lie. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| The hoof is the propaganda. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They're anthropomorphizing themselves, saying, eat this, eat the egg. | ||
| You don't want to eat anything alive. | ||
| You want to eat the egg. | ||
| It's not a real chicken yet. | ||
| Do you know what else is eggs? | ||
| People eggs. | ||
| So eat those eggs. | ||
| Eat people. | ||
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How do you get eggs? | |
| Abort them. | ||
| So as we all know now, Chick-fil-A invented abortion. | ||
| A very Christian company. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So, look, all this is bullshit, but I do agree with Alex that this is what makes him different than people. | ||
| This is so much what makes him different than people. | ||
| But I love him saying, if you get this, you get everything. | ||
| This Chick-fil-A billboard is the key! | ||
| It is! | ||
| That's what he's up to. | ||
| Wait, and wasn't it... | ||
| What was the beginning thing? | ||
| Like, it's a window into guilt politics? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| The idea of feeling guilty about eating, like, a cow that looks human and looks, like, real, whereas this blob isn't really... | ||
| You don't have to feel guilty about the idea of eating that blob. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think that's necessarily a terrible interpretation. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Well, no, no. | ||
| I mean, as far as a worldview of guilt politics work, if you humanize something... | ||
| You're much more likely to care about it as opposed to something that you don't care about. | ||
| If the chickens were also anthropomorphized on the billboard and they were both competing and drawing like a Bugs Bunny and Daffy Duck situation where it's duck season, it's rabbit season, it's duck season, it's rabbit season. | ||
| I see it. | ||
| I see what he's saying, man. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| You're not on the same level here. | ||
| That's what makes people like me and Alex different from you. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| This has been fun. | ||
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This has been knowledge. | |
| We're done. | ||
| That's just one episode where it abruptly ends because I go full Alex Jones. | ||
| I believe this man! | ||
| I play the wrong clip. | ||
| It's just over. | ||
| Fuck it, I'm in. | ||
| So that's basically what was going on on the 22nd. | ||
| A lot of the rest of the stuff, again, is just the laying out of the... | ||
| Oh, I'm sorry, the 21st. | ||
| A lot of the rest of the stuff is just laying out the beginning of the narrative about the collapse. | ||
| So we go on to the 22nd. | ||
| That's Monday. | ||
| So this episode is the eventual collapse of the financial system. | ||
| But wait. | ||
| I gotta get this thing off my chest. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I saw a billboard. | ||
| It's time to get into it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| God damn you, Alex Jones. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So the 22nd comes around. | ||
| That's Monday. | ||
| And he's still on his bullshit about the collapse. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| This is where he has this interview with Peter Schiff, who explains that it's coming any day. | ||
| There's a bubble, and it's going to burst. | ||
| Which is reasonably fair. | ||
| There is a bubble. | ||
| Well, I mean, in our financial system now, you could say that pretty much every other month. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But to fearmonger about it is kind of... | ||
| And we're now two years removed from it. | ||
| It didn't. | ||
| We didn't. | ||
| The dollar still holds value. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So they're really... | ||
| For now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| They may have just been a couple of years off and misunderstood that the reason the collapse was coming was because of shit that they believed. | ||
| Well, then we get to Lionel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, fucking Lionel. | ||
| He knew it all, man. | ||
| Most of the rest of this episode beyond the collapse narrative is stuff about how all of these identity politics ideas like racism, transphobia, Islamophobia is all distraction shit. | ||
| So he has Paul Joseph Watson on. | ||
| This is where he does his horrible parody character, Mangina, that he played on a past episode. | ||
| Right, hope he dies. | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson makes the arguments that Hillary Clinton is running on feminist lies, all this shit. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And all that stuff is kind of stuff we touched on in past episodes. | ||
| Since he is from Britain, I would like to amend. | ||
| Earlier, I did say that I hope he got hit by a truck. | ||
| He is from Britain. | ||
| I hope he gets hit by a lorry. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Now we can move on. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I apologize for that. | ||
| I just wanted to correct that for any of our listeners overseas. | ||
| See, that's what Knowledge Fight does. | ||
| We make corrections. | ||
| When we make a mistake, we correct it. | ||
| So he spends the rest of his episode towards the end. | ||
| He's really mad that people want to take down the Confederate flag, or as he calls it, the battle flag. | ||
| What? | ||
| If you're calling it the battle flag, you're justifying why we want it to be taken down. | ||
| Do you not get that? | ||
| So he has an article that he brings up, and it's about South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley, who is now the ambassador to the UN. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Do we have to say these words out loud? | ||
| Very weird. | ||
| Can't we just pretend they're not real? | ||
| So she was making moves towards taking the Confederate flag out of the state building. | ||
| And Alex is really bent out of shape about that. | ||
| And so he ends the show with what he thinks is a scholarly treatise on the reality of the Civil War. | ||
| I mentioned this on a past episode. | ||
| No. | ||
| Now we're going to listen to it. | ||
| No, he does not tell us what the Civil War was about, does he? | ||
| Oh, he does. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Here's the issue. | ||
| I'm from Texas. | ||
| Slavery. | ||
| Texas was part of this whole Southern movement. | ||
| Slavery was the issue. | ||
| It was not about slavery. | ||
| Oh, damn it. | ||
| The documents, the papers, the real history of the time. | ||
| It was about who would enjoy Western expansion. | ||
| The North, that was mainly industrial, had very high tariffs. | ||
| On the southern cotton and other things leaving the country. | ||
| Internal tariffs on them trying to sell their goods. | ||
| Whenever we had a southern president, Andrew Jackson, the south tried to rebel against him and almost had a civil war over taxes. | ||
| So even Jackson was letting the north screw the south. | ||
| 2% of the south had slaves. | ||
| Most of the whites that were poor were as bad off as the black slaves. | ||
| I mean, that's historical. | ||
| They were called sharecroppers. | ||
| They were slaves for all intents and purposes. | ||
| Their ancestors got here to pay for the way over. | ||
| They would sign up for seven to ten years into injured servitude. | ||
| I'm going to skip this network break so we have more time. | ||
| To explain the Civil War. | ||
| They would get over here, and so they were slaves too. | ||
| It doesn't take from the plight of the Africans who were definitely treated the worst on their way over here and who were treated the worst when it came to their rights. | ||
| But when it came to starvation, poverty, degradation, the sharecroppers were pretty close to the bottom of the barrel as well. | ||
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Man, the hammer's going to drop on this, isn't it? | |
| That sounds reasonable. | ||
| He's about to defend that, though, right? | ||
| He was a famous general in the U.S. military. | ||
| He didn't support slavery. | ||
| He didn't support the South. | ||
| But he supported states' rights. | ||
| And so he resigned his commission and joined, being a general, within a year or so, became the head of the Southern Forces. | ||
| It's a very interesting history. | ||
| I've read all about it. | ||
| I don't dress up in gray uniforms at home. | ||
| I don't dress up in blue uniforms at home. | ||
| Quite frankly, I have an illustrious lineage in U.S. history, from Texas right back to the founding of the country and before, so obviously I'm not going to get into my Southern Civil War roots. | ||
| Just put it to you this way. | ||
| The rednecks and people, they know about it, bow down to me, okay? | ||
| But the whole... | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| That's pretty fucked up. | ||
| Wait, what the fuck just... | ||
| What did he just fucking say right there? | ||
| Rednecks who are in the know, they bow down to me. | ||
| I don't like that. | ||
| I don't either. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't believe that's true. | ||
| No. | ||
| One, because what would you be in the know about that would cause you to bow down to Alex Jones? | ||
| No idea. | ||
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But that's like... | |
| That's such... | ||
| Look, I know it's not to take away... | ||
| From the plight of the Africans. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Sharecroppers had a bad, too. | ||
| It was the South. | ||
| Now, admittedly, I don't want to talk about my family's history, but we killed everybody. | ||
| We fought on the side of the South. | ||
| Yeah, you were a fucking evil monster. | ||
| What do you mean, I don't wear blue at home, I don't wear gray at home. | ||
| You don't dress up. | ||
| But spiritually, oh, I wear so much gray. | ||
| I wear the grayest! | ||
| So, a couple fun facts. | ||
| If you go and actually read the resolution of secessions from various states. | ||
| In the South, if you go read the documents of their secession conventions. | ||
| I bet they all say states' rights and none of them mention slavery or white supremacy at all, right? | ||
| Zero of them. | ||
| Mississippi mentions slave or slavery ten times throughout the document. | ||
| States' rights. | ||
| Never once mentions the word tax or tariff. | ||
| Fake news. | ||
| South Carolina's mentioned slaves eighteen times. | ||
| It mentions the word tax once, though. | ||
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That's fair. | |
| But it's talking about taxing slaves. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Foiled again! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This idea of the tariff argument, I did a little looking into this. | ||
| I bet it has nothing to do with whitewashing. | ||
| Actually, it's a pretty interesting history. | ||
| Everyone has two sides of issues. | ||
| Everyone's like, secretly, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Slaves. | ||
| I read an interesting article by a guy named Mark William Palin, who's a professor of history at the University of Exeter. | ||
| He was breaking down this tariff argument, and what he was explaining is that the argument about tariffs leading to the Civil War is based on a misunderstanding about the tariff situation that existed. | ||
| During the 1832 nullification crisis, that's when tariffs got... | ||
| Everyone was fighting over them. | ||
| They misunderstand that with the 1860-1861 secession of southern states. | ||
| That's basically what people... | ||
| So they're 20 years off and they're... | ||
| Well, I apologize. | ||
| They conflate those two things into one. | ||
| So in 1860, the moral tariff was passed. | ||
| But this is very interesting. | ||
| Precisely because southern states began seceding from December 1860 onwards, a number of southern senators had resigned that could otherwise have voted against the tariff bill. | ||
| Had they not resigned, they would have had enough votes in the Senate to successfully block the tariff's congressional passage. | ||
| But because they seceded, they didn't have a vote anymore. | ||
| So the secession came before this Morrell tariff. | ||
| Now, what's interesting is that the Confederacy wanted the British people... | ||
| to recognize the Confederacy as a sovereign nation. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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So what they did is they started to make the argument that because of the timing, the almost immediate passage of this moral tariff, they made the argument to the British that that's the reason that they seceded. | |
| When that could not have possibly been the case, the secession led to the passage. | ||
| Right. | ||
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But because of the closeness in time, it created a ton of confusion. | |
| Right. | ||
| A group of people who had seceded from their country over slavery. | ||
| Considering the fact that they had already abolished slavery 10-15 years beforehand. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so they basically pretended that, no, it was about tariffs. | ||
| It was about tariffs. | ||
| Sure, sure. | ||
| So here, quote, The London Times gave editorial voice to the tariff lie. | ||
| The newspaper pronounced that, quote, protection was quite as much a cause of the disruption of the Union as slavery, and remarked upon how the moral tariff had, quote, much changed the tone of public feeling in favor of the secessionists. | ||
| Yeah, well, so, yeah. | ||
| Lies, lies work. | ||
| A propaganda campaign worked, but then John Stuart Mill... | ||
| The fucking story of this podcast. | ||
| John Stuart Mill got involved and started writing essays about how this is nonsense. | ||
| And how, obviously, if you look at what they're saying, and had been saying in the South, it's all about slavery. | ||
| Also, hey, who cares? | ||
| Who cares if it's 60-40? | ||
| Slavery's still a big part of it. | ||
| Oh, it's also about tariffs. | ||
| Fine! | ||
| Slavery! | ||
| It's because of slavery! | ||
| If it's 5% because of slavery, they're still fucking slaves! | ||
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Right. | |
| And Alex is being beholden to this myth, and being beholden to this narrative. | ||
| Really indicates that either he hasn't researched it as much as he thinks, or he's been researching really dicey sources, or he's inclined to just believe the slavery apologist argument. | ||
| That is a common thing. | ||
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Totally. | |
| I was taught some of that in school. | ||
| I remember being in school in my small dumb town with people pulling that narrative of it was slavery. | ||
| But also states' rights. | ||
| Like, they were towing that line. | ||
| Like, that was the same thing as teaching the controversy. | ||
| Like, teaching evolution and creation about creative or intelligent design or whatever dumb lies they're telling about that, too. | ||
| It's that idea of, like, well, some believe this and some believe that. | ||
| And we're not going to come down on reality. | ||
| You can invent your own truth out of that. | ||
| And it's bullshit. | ||
| And that's what the South did with the British. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well. | ||
| So, that part is bullshit. | ||
| It's total bullshit. | ||
| And him spouting this stuff on the show in defense of people not taking down the Confederate flag is nonsense. | ||
| Now, at the same time, he does have a good point that sharecroppers had it bad. | ||
| They did. | ||
| Well, the thing that boggles my mind that people still don't put together, like, he specifically pointed it out. | ||
| Only 2% had slaves. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Do you see what a big problem having all of the wealth concentrated within a very small number of people can create? | ||
| The top 1% of the 1%. | ||
| It's a bad idea. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| It's bad for everyone. | ||
| It leads to owning humans and seceding. | ||
| Yeah, well, hey. | ||
| We're big fans of the free market ideology. | ||
| Free market! | ||
| Free market! | ||
| That's free market! | ||
| Hey, free market, it's a good thing. | ||
| It never winds up in that exact situation that we're in. | ||
| I mean, if you want to look at the extremeness of free market, there were people who sold themselves into slavery for money. | ||
| And back in the days of Greece, because that's one of the things I studied the most in college, one of the big problems that led to almost the premature collapse of Greece was that people sold themselves into slavery. | ||
| Because they were so destitute, they would just sell themselves. | ||
| And it got to a point where the government, Solon, ended up having to be like, nah. | ||
| Fuck this. | ||
| You guys are all free. | ||
| And that's what the North had to do. | ||
| So, I mean, we did essentially save the United States by getting rid of slavery. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So Alex is just an idiot. | ||
| But he has more to say. | ||
| And he accidentally says a couple other true things. | ||
| That are, like, he just glosses over. | ||
| There's one at the end where he's like, a black person probably invented the cotton gin, but who cares? | ||
| Wait, wait, what? | ||
| We'll get to it. | ||
| I mean, that's a good, that's probably true. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The point is that I understand that the South was snookered, the South was bamboozled, the South was set up, and the North was evicted in this thing as well. | ||
| But 600-plus soldiers died of the Civil War. | ||
| Now, did the South fight 3-to-1, 4-to-1, 10-to-1 by the end with about 10 times the military equipment on the North? | ||
| Did the South win the first two, three years against the North with some of the best military maneuvers with Stonewall Jackson and others? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So there's the pride of the South that they absolutely dominated the North when, on average, they were fighting 4-to-1 against Northern soldiers. | ||
| But these were city guys from the North. | ||
| They weren't the children of the, you know, the wagon train folks. | ||
| Slaves! | ||
| So you talk about Skinnebuck run a trot line. | ||
| The North was fighting Davy Crockett. | ||
| So that's why they were in deep trouble. | ||
| The South ran out of shoes, ran out of guns, ran out of bullets. | ||
| So there's this illustrious strength of the South and the whole giant black brigades that fought on the side of the South. | ||
| I wonder why. | ||
| The whole nine yards. | ||
| The history you're given. | ||
| Is not the real history that was going on. | ||
| Slavery was a horrible institution that the West began the process of getting rid of. | ||
| There were animals in Alabama where a lot of Texans came here because they would try to arm their slaves. | ||
| What was that? | ||
| Did I hear an ah? | ||
| Ah! | ||
| What? | ||
| What's the problem? | ||
| Yes, that is true. | ||
| In the West, they did start to abolish slavery. | ||
| The part that didn't start to abolish slavery, that fought very hard against it, is the part that he's like, yeah, well, you know, we're still proud of ourselves. | ||
| Fuck you! | ||
| Well, the thing that he's saying they're proud of is fighting, like, totally outnumbered, and like, eh, sure, I mean, I guess. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| What? | ||
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That's... | |
| That would be like if the Spartans were the bad guys. | ||
| Well, the Spartans were the bad guys. | ||
| Against the Persians? | ||
| Not against the Persians, but... | ||
| That's when 300 was, though. | ||
| Well, yeah, but do you not remember the... | ||
| Look, Spartans weren't great. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| The Spartans weren't great. | ||
| No, they would kill their babies and shit. | ||
| You don't remember the war they fought against Athens that wound up destroying all of Greece? | ||
| I remember a bit of it, yes. | ||
| That was a big one. | ||
| They were the bad guys. | ||
| And when I say kill their babies, I'm not talking about abortion. | ||
| I'm saying that if they had a weird head, they'd leave them on a mountain. | ||
| Yeah, that's a lot like them. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
| Is that not what abortion is? | ||
| It's not quite. | ||
| I remember protesting against an abortion doctor one day, and it was right next to a mountain, so I just assumed that's where he put him. | ||
| Did anybody who was protesting bring a Chick-fil-A sign? | ||
| Yeah, two cows did. | ||
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The billboard? | |
| And then set up basically their own industrial agrarian combines. | ||
| That was going on. | ||
| A lot of people in the South got kicked out to Texas because they were doing what George Washington and Thomas Jefferson had done upon their deaths, freeing their agrarian slaves. | ||
| So 2% had slaves. | ||
| Of those that did, there was a percentage that beat people and killed them and everything else. | ||
| With most other folks, it was an entirely different culture than what the media projects. | ||
| No one's defending it. | ||
| It's just that what you're told in the news and in the media is not what's going on. | ||
| It has no reflection in reality to what happened. | ||
| Then the biggest issue is that for a decade after the Civil War, Lincoln didn't want to break down the South. | ||
| He didn't want to follow a Sherman's model of Reconstruction. | ||
| He got shot in the back of the head. | ||
| By John Wilkes Booth, we're told. | ||
| Really, the evidence points towards that being a setup that a lot of folks wanted to loot the South. | ||
| A lot of Northern industrialists wanted to take it over the railroads. | ||
| John Wilkes Booth was a false flag? | ||
| I don't know how the South got set up. | ||
| John Wilkes Booth was a false flag. | ||
| armed and trained a bunch of the South, gave them weapons, and then when they had the boa constrictor, or was it the attaconda strategy, it was the big giant snake all the way around the East Coast, all the way up the Mississippi. | ||
| To basically cut off supplies, the British didn't break those and didn't supply the South. | ||
| I'm not demonizing the British either. | ||
| These are just facts of what happened. | ||
| You watch shows like Roots or other shows, they don't teach this. | ||
| They show a guy with a whip beating a black guy. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| And that's just not what it was. | ||
| It's a problem! | ||
| It was collapsing because of industrialization and Eli Whitney's cotton gin. | ||
| Which was probably actually invented by a black guy. | ||
| But the point is that, no kidding, he wanted to quit having to pull the stuff out of the cotton themselves. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Yeah, there we go. | ||
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Alright, dude. | |
| Also, the cotton gin only made slavery worse. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| It only made slavery worse. | ||
| It did not improve things at all. | ||
| Yeah, but that's like... | ||
| It streamlined the... | ||
| Like, cotton was dying as an industry. | ||
| Slavery, perhaps, due to that, was falling out of favor. | ||
| The cotton gin revolutionized it, making cotton even more important to the South. | ||
| And he's fucking acting like you couldn't find a use for slaves. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| Fuck, fuck, you fucking... | ||
| It's so stupid. | ||
| It's the tone of voice. | ||
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Totally. | |
| It's the tone of voice that kills me when they're talking about... | ||
| And this is they. | ||
| We all know who they is. | ||
| Alex. | ||
| They are talking about slavery and the horrible mistreatment of slaves, just the fact that you own people. | ||
| It's always like... | ||
| Yes, it was a bad time. | ||
| It's always that tone of voice. | ||
| Yes, a resigned... | ||
| Why are you bringing this up to me again? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Instead of the righteous fury that it should be. | ||
| The idea that owning slaves is just a situation is fucking bananas. | ||
| Here's what it comes down to for me. | ||
| Alex can only hold one opinion in his head at a time. | ||
| So he can't... | ||
| Really agree that, or he can't embody that slavery was wrong and sharecroppers had it bad, too, at the same time. | ||
| He, if he says that slavery was really bad, that in some way invalidates the argument that sharecroppers had it bad. | ||
| And that's the argument he's more interested in making because it defends white people. | ||
| Or makes white victimhood narratives, which we know he's super into. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, anyway, that was a super long clip, and I apologize. | ||
| But I wanted to demonstrate, first of all, that Alex is stupid. | ||
| And second, that this is the kind of stuff he's wasting his time with. | ||
| And more importantly, we wanted to re-break the story. | ||
| John Wilkes Booth was a false flag. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| This is true. | ||
| Everything is a false flag. | ||
| Everyone knows this. | ||
| Every single thing. | ||
| JWB, false flag. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| So, Trump has been running for president now for, what would it be, six days? | ||
| An eternity. | ||
| This is six days past him making his comments about the Mexicans. | ||
| Some are good people. | ||
| He's still not mentioned him at all. | ||
| Still not mentioned Trump at all. | ||
| Barely mentioned the election. | ||
| Let's get the taste of that Civil War shit out of our mouth with a nice out-of-context drop. | ||
| I'm so moral, it's disgusting! | ||
| Alright, Alex. | ||
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Good call. | |
| Good call, baby. | ||
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I love that. | |
| So bizarre. | ||
| I'm so humble! | ||
| It's the least humble thing ever! | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| It's very weird. | ||
| I don't even remember what context it was in, but I do know it doesn't matter. | ||
| There's nothing more to say. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's so moral, it is disgusting. | ||
| So, now we move on. | ||
| Illustrating, perhaps, the great paradox of true morality. | ||
| Once you reach a certain point, you are the very evil you espouse. | ||
| We move on to June 23rd. | ||
| That is that Tuesday. | ||
| We're on a Tuesday show now. | ||
| And what was happening around the actual world on that day is that they were talking about fast-tracking TPP. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Talking about giving Obama the fast-track authority for the Trans-Pacific Partnership. | ||
| It was made out to be some sort of evil, nefarious thing, but what people don't ever take into account when they talk about fast-tracking of trade agreements is that literally every president since Gerald Ford, with the exception of Bill Clinton, has been granted fast-track authority. | ||
| That is just something that is basically... | ||
| Is there anything they all have in common that Obama did not share with them? | ||
| Well, I mean, Bill Clinton didn't get it. | ||
| So, I mean... | ||
| And Obama did get it. | ||
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Oh, did he? | |
| Yeah, they did bring him. | ||
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Okay, cool. | |
| Yeah, and TPP was fast-tracked. | ||
| And that's what leads us to where Alex's headspace is on the 23rd. | ||
| But, again, this fast-track sounds like something that's weird and evil because it doesn't get discussed much. | ||
| But it's super normal. | ||
| It's something that happens with every president. | ||
| And I think one of the big reasons that Clinton didn't get it was because of the Larry Nichols types and all the propaganda and the, quote, vast right-wing conspiracy that, unfortunately, is real that Hillary complains about. | ||
| It is very much real. | ||
| Or at least it sure seems like it. | ||
| Speaking of Larry Nichols, he will be making an appearance on this episode here on the 23rd, this Tuesday show. | ||
| But because Alex Jones is so bent out of shape about the TPP... | ||
| He plays a couple of really long videos. | ||
| And one of them is Senator Jeff Sessions on the Senate floor. | ||
| Oh, that's not good. | ||
| Giving a speech about how the Trans-Pacific Partnership takes away the sovereignty of the country and the Congress. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| And this is the first instance of Alex being super complimentary about someone who would eventually be part of Trump's cabinet or part of Trump's campaign. | ||
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Okay. | |
| So it's interesting because he's still not talked about Trump at all. | ||
| But he loves Jeff Sessions. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So here Alex says exactly how he feels about Jeff Sessions. | ||
| I'll allow this. | ||
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A discipline and set rules outside the powers of the United States Congress. | |
| Back it up about a minute. | ||
| This is so epic. | ||
| I don't want to interrupt it. | ||
| I'm going to play after the break and come back with more of it. | ||
| This is one of the main leaders of the Senate. | ||
| A guy who leaked the amnesty bills three separate times. | ||
| They even tried to censure him for it. | ||
| The rules say they really couldn't do that. | ||
| Senator Sessions is a super patriot. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| So is Rand Paul. | ||
| They're not perfect, but compared to the others, I mean, they're just absolutely night and day. | ||
| So we're starting to get a sense of Alex's political headspace. | ||
| Rand Paul is someone he always talks very complimentary about. | ||
| Ron Paul comes on his show a bunch. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so Jeff Sessions is a super patriot because he's opposed to the Trans-Pacific Partnership. | ||
| Most likely. | ||
| That's a big part of why Alex is so into him. | ||
| Because Alex sees the Trans-Pacific Partnership as the final step that will lead us to globalist enslavement. | ||
| He takes away our sovereignty and our country. | ||
| Eventually, we'll just have a one-world dictator. | ||
| As the Asian Union and the European Union, Trans-Pacific Partnership, they're all going to be merged together. | ||
| It's a trilateral plan. | ||
| So that's basically where he's at. | ||
| Barcodes. | ||
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Totally. | |
| On the back of our hands. | ||
| We're all gonna die. | ||
| Dude, we're gonna get to that in like two episodes. | ||
| Jeff Sessions is a fucking monster and I hope he... | ||
| God. | ||
| He's a tremendous... | ||
| God, he's a monster. | ||
| Let's just put it this way. | ||
| He probably believes the Civil War was about tariffs. | ||
| He almost certainly believes that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Either that or he never learned that in Keebler Elf School. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's a large part of this episode. | ||
| He wants to talk about the TPP, but he doesn't really get into any depth about it other than his fears and his fear narratives. | ||
| He does explain that because of the TPP and all these unions merging, that the UN is going to take over Israel, but Muslims will still be killing Christians all over the place. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He goes on a rant about that, which transitions smoothly into him selling his gallbladder cleanse product. | ||
| All right, well, that I'm good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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I'm happy with that. | |
| I've consulted my doctor friend. | ||
| And he informed me that no one needs to cleanse their gallbladder. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| I don't understand how you would... | ||
| I don't understand what a gallbladder would be cleansed of. | ||
| There's a lot of plastics that you end up taking in because of shit the globalists have put in your food. | ||
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Of course. | |
| And they all collect in the gallbladder. | ||
| Mm-mm, globalists. | ||
| So you take a bunch of his medicines, his supplements. | ||
| And then you drink, like, rice wine vinegar or something like that. | ||
| Apple cider vinegar. | ||
| And then, on the sixth day of the cleanse, you drink, like, a glass of olive oil, I believe is what he says. | ||
| And then you lay on your side for a couple hours. | ||
| He's not specific, but I think he says you just shit forever. | ||
| What else could there be? | ||
| I didn't cut a clip of it because it's one of the grossest things ever. | ||
| Him explaining this product. | ||
| What other results of all of that shit could arise? | ||
| You're talking about apple cider vinegar for six days. | ||
| Yeah, what else? | ||
| And a big old glass full of olive oil. | ||
| What else is coming? | ||
| And then liquid shoots out your ears for six weeks. | ||
| Now you pass a bunch of plastics through your butt. | ||
| And he does say, talk to your doctor. | ||
| And your doctor will say, no, stop it. | ||
| So at the about hour point of this episode, we get a return visit from our old friend Larry Nichols. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Larry Stevie Nicks. | ||
| On the last episode that he was on, he came on and I believe kicked off Alex's savior complex. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Which was laying dormant to Alex for the entirety of his career. | ||
| But the way Larry is respected by Alex and the way that Larry said, hey, Alex, what you need to do, you're the only one who can save us. | ||
| The way he articulated it, I think, is the roots of Alex's journey. | ||
| So he comes back on. | ||
| In this episode, he's mostly just talking about a lot of the murders that the Clintons have committed. | ||
| Talks about some guy who... | ||
| Cut off his hands and his legs and decapitated himself and they ruled it a suicide. | ||
| I found no evidence that this is a real thing that happened. | ||
| But what he really wants to talk about is we need to build an army. | ||
| He's enlisting Alex's followers to create an army to stop the Clintons. | ||
| That's exactly what we need. | ||
| I love it when people say let's turn into an army. | ||
| That has no negative connotations to it whatsoever. | ||
| So here he is describing that. | ||
| I'm not here to smear them. | ||
| What I'm here to do is give you a character profile of these people because it's up to us. | ||
| You know, Alex, it's up to your audience. | ||
| Three, four million people. | ||
| That's how many you got because I damn near talked to all of them. | ||
| He says there's 45. You got three, four million people. | ||
| That's the army we got to stop them with. | ||
| And you got to know who they are. | ||
| So you've got to know who they are if you're going to stop them as an army. | ||
| You have to know who your enemy is. | ||
| He goes on to talk about the murders, and he also plays the... | ||
| We played the clip on the last episode, but the witches. | ||
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Witches. | |
| So he talks about how Hillary Clinton went to witch church with the lady from Designing Women, and then he drops this one on him. | ||
| And Alex will remember the time. | ||
| Just tell you what kind of woman this was. | ||
| Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Two Secret Service agents in the White House heard all this racket up in the living quarters. | ||
| They go up. | ||
| There's stuff breaking. | ||
| They don't know whether to go in because you're not supposed to, but things were breaking. | ||
| They barged in, and there it was. | ||
| Hillary in bed with Mark and Post, you know, a night court, that blonde. | ||
| They ran back together and Bill pulled up the chair and wanted to watch and Hillary was throwing an ashtray and went upset. | ||
| That's the sick old people we call the Clintons. | ||
| So Hillary fucked Markie Post. | ||
| Hillary fucked somebody from the night court? | ||
| Yeah, she played the public defender on night court. | ||
| So now I am a way bigger Hillary fan. | ||
| If I had known this, I would have campaigned so much harder for Hillary. | ||
| Are you kidding me? | ||
| She fucked Markie Post. | ||
| And then they were throwing ashtrays? | ||
| No, because Bill wanted to watch. | ||
| So he pulled up a chair, and Hillary didn't like that he was watching. | ||
| So she started throwing lamps around the room. | ||
| The problem is, that sounds pretty true. | ||
| I buy it. | ||
| That also sounds like a zero to me. | ||
| It also sounds like exactly a... | ||
| He watched House of Cards. | ||
| This is after House of Cards was... | ||
| 2015? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He watched House of Cards. | ||
| That's what he did. | ||
| Well, also, I love Larry Nichols' obsession with people from sitcoms. | ||
| That's super cool. | ||
| He does love that. | ||
| He loves to throw them in as side characters. | ||
| But then also, like... | ||
| He's saying that what he's going to do is come back every week and have a scandal a week for Alex. | ||
| And this, plus the Designing Women witch church, is the scandals that he's starting with. | ||
| That's what he's going for? | ||
| Dude, you've got to do better, because I don't care if Hillary Clinton went to a witch church. | ||
| I'm pissed off she didn't invite Meshack Taylor. | ||
| But at the same time, I don't care if she had sex with Markie Post. | ||
| She's a beautiful woman. | ||
| I don't care if Bill Clinton watched, and I don't care if she threw an ashtray. | ||
| Well, here's the one thing that you don't know yet, right? | ||
| The scandal after this one, I saw Hillary Clinton and Seinfeld both telling bad jokes at the Laugh Factory. | ||
| Also, they were fucking. | ||
| Also, she fucked Dauber. | ||
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She fucked Kubiak from Parker Lewis Can't Lose. | |
| God, when she fucked Telly Savalas, I'll tell you. | ||
| That was insane. | ||
| She was a lot younger back then. | ||
| She was a hot piece. | ||
| Put a lollipop up her puss. | ||
| Oh, God! | ||
| All right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Pack it in! | ||
| I think we got all we're going to get. | ||
| So that's what Larry Nichols wants to come. | ||
| I think the most important piece of it is... | ||
| That's what Larry Nichols wants to come? | ||
| Come and say. | ||
| You got me. | ||
| Who loves you, baby? | ||
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Come on. | |
| So that's his contribution. | ||
| I think the most important part is that he's trying to enlist Alex's audience manipulatively. | ||
| Yes, of course. | ||
| It's become very clear at this point that he's using Alex. | ||
| Because he knows the millions of people listening, he's just trying to get his agenda through, and he knows he can sort of dupe Alex. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The other stuff is just really funny. | ||
| She went to witch school! | ||
| So, we now jump to Wednesday, the 24th. | ||
| And this is where I believe everything changed. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The 24th of June. | ||
| June 24th. | ||
| In 2015, I have reason to believe that this is where Alex began to lose his mind. | ||
| Now, have you ever read The Case of Charles Dexter Ward by H.P. Lovecraft? | ||
| Nope. | ||
| So, part of it is, uh, there's a running trend throughout it of, there's this guy named Charles Dexter Ward who at some point absolutely lost his mind. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And there are different psychiatrists that have, like, thought, it was at this point. | ||
| Oh no, it was later. | ||
| It was later. | ||
| That's, I'm all of those psychiatrists when it comes to Alex. | ||
| Because I have various points where I think he lost his mind. | ||
| This one is big. | ||
| And I'll just play this. | ||
| You're putting a lot more chips on this one than you are on your other hands. | ||
| Well, there's two things that happened on this episode that I think are groundbreaking. | ||
| And here's the first one. | ||
| And I'm not even going to set it up at all. | ||
| I just want you to take this in and listen, because it's... | ||
| I had a six-hour dream last night from the time I went to bed when I woke up at 5.30 that was the most vivid of my lifetime. | ||
| I can only describe it as a vision of the future. | ||
| You could say scientifically it's what my brain with all the study has basically postulated. | ||
| My God, I didn't know you could have such nightmares. | ||
| I mean, it was like 20 years of observations. | ||
| Seeing things, it was unbelievable. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| And whether it was a dream or real, whether I was peering into the future or not, it doesn't matter because... | ||
| I could intellectually look at the enemy operation and tell you without a shadow of a doubt. | ||
| That's where they're taking us. | ||
| So whether it was a vision or whether my mind... | ||
| Our minds are so incredible. | ||
| Created this giant 20-year 3D movie complete with smell-o-vision. | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| Smell-o-vision? | ||
| How much would you pay for that? | ||
| So that I could... | ||
| Try to wrap my mind around what faces our species and try to find the lever to move the world back from the brink of destruction. | ||
| So, Alex Jones had a dream and is now our Messiah. | ||
| He had a prophetic dream. | ||
| That's what he's saying right there. | ||
| A six-hour dream about what the globalists... | ||
| How would you know how long... | ||
| No, no one would know. | ||
| That is not possible. | ||
| No, and time dilation happens during dreams, so it's absurd. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But... | ||
| This, I legitimately think, is crazy. | ||
| No, that's absolutely crazy. | ||
| I've had a lot of very vivid dreams in my life. | ||
| I've also practiced lucid dreaming for a little while and gained some mastery over the dreamscape, what have you. | ||
| I'm an Orionaut. | ||
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Don't fuck off. | |
| No, no, no. | ||
| I'm fine with it. | ||
| It's a real cool, fun thing. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| Yeah, and when you apply concrete meaning to dreams, a lot of the time you're really messing up. | ||
| You're doing something really bad. | ||
| I can think of no past historical comparison for that. | ||
| None. | ||
| I can think of zero times where a man has said, listen, I dreamt of the future, do what I say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That generally works out, right? | ||
| Yeah, and they're usually very verifiable things. | ||
| So Alex doesn't really get too in deep, in depth. | ||
| About the dream itself, except to say that it was the next 20 years of what the globalists are going to do. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And then it lasted six hours. | ||
| And it mysteriously followed the exact path of everything he's said in the past, almost as if he is a crazy person who has fixated on this bizarre false reality that he's created within his head to the point that it has invaded his subconscious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so when he has a dream of a nightmare... | ||
| You know, his nightmares obviously would match up with this thing that he thinks about all the time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, that's not all. | ||
| Like, mine are just about bank accounts and how they are gradually disappearing. | ||
|
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Slowly burning into my toes. | ||
| Just money. | ||
| That's probably a vision. | ||
| Just money on my toes. | ||
| Six-hour... | ||
| Just lit on fire. | ||
| Six-hour dream about money toes. | ||
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Yep. | |
| I was set ablaze by a witch. | ||
| Was it Hillary Clinton or the lady from Designing Women? | ||
| It was Larry Nichols, actually. | ||
| That's the one truth. | ||
| There's only one witch. | ||
| Larry Nichols. | ||
| Is he a good witch? | ||
| No. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Why do you think his nickname is Stevie Nicks? | ||
| Alex is not done talking about this dream. | ||
| Last night in my dream, I've studied him so much, I was like tuning in, basically. | ||
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Everybody loves it when you tell people about your dreams. | |
| They're super interesting. | ||
| It was like being possessed or something. | ||
| It was just absolutely horrible. | ||
| Because it was like a 20-year dream. | ||
| It just went on forever. | ||
| It was like hell through their eyes while they were doing all this stuff. | ||
| My God, it was horrible. | ||
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Oh my God, it's so horrible. | |
| The future is going to be just hell on earth, people. | ||
| And the churches won't warn anybody. | ||
| It's all name it and claim it glitter bugs up there. | ||
| I'm going to briefly do some air refueling. | ||
| We need money to fund this operation. | ||
| I want to hire 10 more reporters. | ||
| I want to... | ||
| I just don't want to have to crack the nut of that. | ||
| You like that? | ||
| How it went from, I had this dream that everything's going to be living hell. | ||
| We need money. | ||
| We need money. | ||
| Everything's going to be living hell. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I had the... | ||
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The future will be a nightmare. | |
| Please give me money. | ||
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Please. | |
| Send your donations to 1010 Northwest Street on 10... | ||
| Meanwhile, making fun of the Prosperity Gospel people, the name it and claim it folks that he's talking about. | ||
| And the Prosperity Gospel people are fucking monsters. | ||
| Totally, but don't make fun of them right when you're about to ask for money. | ||
| Like, that's insane. | ||
| No, that's the perfect time. | ||
| So, I think that... | ||
| That is the perfect time to mock them, is like, hey, hey, hey, look at these idiots over here. | ||
| Don't give them your money. | ||
| Give me money. | ||
| I thought you were going to make the argument that the asking for money was parody. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| He would have to understand parody then. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So, I believe that there is crassness to Alex's, like, I'm going to talk about this dream and then do a pitch for money. | ||
| But at the same time, I think that the reality is that he started to internalize the savior myth that Larry Nichols has brought to the show. | ||
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Okay. | |
| and because that already it exacerbates feelings he's already had under the surface but he probably wasn't able to really come out with them because even he knows that would be grandiose and people would be like calm down alex but because larry nichols has brought it to him it gives him much in the same way that reverend childress saying that charleston was fake gives him permission to say it's fake larry nichols being like you're our Now his delusions get to Rome free. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So Alex comes in with this. | ||
| So are you making the argument that this is when his delusion comes out? | ||
| Or are you making the argument that this is when he gives in whole hog to the delusions of grandeur? | ||
| I think more the latter. | ||
| I think that it is the moment at least where his mind becomes like, there is something talking to me. | ||
| Like, these dreams, the way he's presenting it is, it's prophecy. | ||
| Yeah, this is when he becomes Elijah. | ||
| He described it as a vision of the next 20 years. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he's the only one who can stop it. | ||
| He's the only one who's seen it. | ||
| With your money. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he's going to need... | ||
| Look, if there's one thing I know about apocalypses... | ||
| You need at least ten more reporters to really stop them. | ||
| It runs into money. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So that is the first thing that's super important that happens on the 24th. | ||
| The other thing is the introduction of a new character into the pantheon of Infowars people. | ||
| Not Rainbow Snatch, though. | ||
| No, she's years away. | ||
| She's years from now. | ||
| She's just a twinkle in Alex Jones' mother's eye. | ||
| So one thing that I think is interesting is that all the characters who play big roles now aren't around yet. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| The Roger Stone, he's nowhere to be seen. | ||
| He's not on any of these episodes. | ||
| There's no mention of him when he's on almost every episode now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's no fourth hour hosts, necessarily. | ||
| He's usually just doing three hours and then doing overdrive. | ||
| If he has to get to some topics and stuff like that. | ||
| There is still David Knight, but our cast of rotating monsters is not complete. | ||
| We have David Knight, Leanne McAdoo, Jakari Jackson, Joe Biggs. | ||
| Those folks are around. | ||
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Right. | |
| But yeah, like the Anthony Cumias. | ||
| So far I've seen no evidence of Rappaport existing back then, although I'll keep you posted. | ||
| I'm sure he's still alive at this point in the past. | ||
| Or? | ||
| He blipped into existence in 2016. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Alex Jones created him out of a vision. | ||
| He pulled him from betwixt his ears. | ||
| So this is the first instance that I can find. | ||
| And I might be wrong about this. | ||
| I admit that I may be wrong. | ||
| But I know that it's the first time she has ever been on. | ||
| And I believe it's the first time he's had a guest from Rebel Media on. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Mike Cernovich... | ||
| And Rebel Media at this point is very low-key. | ||
| Yeah, Mike Cernovich isn't a part of Rebel Media, and I don't know what he's doing at this point. | ||
| Probably some Gamergate shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Something horrible. | ||
| He's not on Alex's radar. | ||
| Jack Posobiec isn't a player at this point. | ||
| He's not on anyone's radar. | ||
| I don't know what the fuck he's doing at this point. | ||
| Gavin McGinnis isn't... | ||
| I mean, he's involved with Rebel Media as well, but he's not on Alex's radar. | ||
| He hasn't popped up on any shows. | ||
| But... | ||
| Alex does, on the 24th of June, have someone from Rebel Media, a lady by the name of Lauren Southern, on as a guest. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I know that name. | ||
| At this point, she is a college student, and she has a YouTube channel and reports for Rebel Media. | ||
| On this episode, she had just put out a video that was making fun of the slut walk. | ||
| So I'm assuming that she's doing it in a very sex-positive way and saying that there's no reason for women to be ashamed after they have a wonderful night with somebody that they care about or don't care about or just fuck. | ||
| You might have the wrong angle on this. | ||
| So she's not... | ||
| She's making fun of them. | ||
| She's making fun of them for having sex in the first place. | ||
| Well, she turns it into a rape thing. | ||
| Oh, for fuck's sake. | ||
| And to be fair, some of it was. | ||
| Some of the march and some of the protest was about that. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| No, campus sexual assault is a horrifying problem that is prevalent across many campuses and is often covered up, like the Baylor bullshit and that whole thing. | ||
| Like, yeah, I'm on board there. | ||
| The March had a sex positivity bent to it and a rape awareness bent to it. | ||
| So she goes out and it's all... | ||
| I'm going to play two clips from when they play her report. | ||
| They play a bit of it. | ||
| And I want you to keep the mic down because this is going to make you really mad. | ||
| And I need you to hear Alex... | ||
| I doubt it'll make me mad. | ||
| I need you... | ||
| I'm sure that it's gonna be right in my wheelhouse of, I'm gonna agree with her politics. | ||
| I need you and the audience to hear Alex mumbling in the background while the video plays. | ||
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Oh no. | |
| Because it's real, it's worse than her report itself. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| And her report is not great. | ||
| So here we go. | ||
| Here's the first one. | ||
| This is, Lauren's voice will come in for a second, and then a lady on the street, We'll start to sort of confront her about her position. | ||
| And I would describe this as Lauren not being good on her feet. | ||
| Not thinking fast. | ||
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Is this stopping rapes? | |
| Do you have any stats to back up anything that you've said this afternoon? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You said that rapists go to jail. | ||
| Can you give me a stat to back that up based on the number of rapes that are reported, the number of rapes that get taken to the cops, the number of rapes that get prosecuted? | ||
| Could you give me some stats to back up your pseudo-reporting here? | ||
| Well, first of all, out of the amount of rapes that happen, out of 100,000 people, 1.7... | ||
| of Canadians actually even just that's just reporting rapes so yeah you know that less than 10% of rapes are actually reported This is victimology. | ||
| It's from all of the women's organizations. | ||
| You can look it up online. | ||
| You can find it through the socialized organizations that study rape. | ||
| I participate with an organization that works as a rape crisis center. | ||
| We base that on the number of calls. | ||
| The police know based on the unofficial reports, the third-party reporting, and the direct reports. | ||
| This is not a secret that about 10% of rapes are reported. | ||
| So how do you know 10% of rapes are reported if the others aren't? | ||
| Because those people call the women's centers, they ask for help, they seek medical attention. | ||
| So they are reported. | ||
| Ooh, gotcha. | ||
| She thinks that's a gotcha. | ||
| Like, reporting to a women's clinic or something like that is the equivalent of reporting to the police. | ||
| Yeah, it's the same thing. | ||
| She's really moving goalposts around, and then when Lauren is asked to give any statistics, she stammers through a couple numbers. | ||
| Well, I think it's obvious that... | ||
| Alex is right now listening to this going, Lauren isn't doing the job, and that's why he's talking over it. | ||
| Or because she's a woman. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| He's listening to women talk to each other, and he does not like that at all. | ||
| Nothing in Alex's world passes the Bechdel test. | ||
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Uh-uh. | |
| No, thank you. | ||
| They are talking to each other? | ||
| That's dangerous. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even if they're disagreeing, they're fomenting. | ||
| Alex cannot contain himself. | ||
| But I think also you get the sense that... | ||
| Even though he thinks that she's not doing the right job or doing it hard enough, he's like, ooh, alright. | ||
| I like what she's putting down. | ||
| Still, she's on the right side of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anti-feminist woman. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yeah, that's my jam right there. | ||
| So, uh, she's... | ||
| So Lauren Southern is getting her ass kicked pretty handily here. | ||
| In that clip. | ||
| Yeah, that's not... | ||
| In the same way... | ||
| That's kind of pathetic. | ||
| In the same way they keep posting these Mark Dice videos where it doesn't show what he thinks it shows. | ||
| Right. | ||
| She posts this on The Rebel and it's like, I fucking told these feminists. | ||
| It's like, no, if you listen to what they're actually saying, that lady is totally right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, she's demolishing you. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| And you're... | ||
| Like, that's... | ||
| But that's what's so disheartening about it is that she comes away from that thinking that that was a win for her. | ||
| And the woman she's talking to very clearly goes away with that thinking, I'm never going to get through to this lady. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Somehow the people who know what's going on or who can reflect reality, who can see the issues, are... | ||
| Losing whenever they're arguing with liars. | ||
| With people who are just utterly and completely willing to obfuscate, misunderstand, and then lie about the results of something. | ||
| That's the way of the world now. | ||
| I know! | ||
| There's a really funny clip that I didn't cut out because it gets murkied up by Alex sort of editorializing on it. | ||
| But there's one point in her report where a lady was asking her to not use footage that she had shot of someone else. | ||
| She's like, this person doesn't want you to use her footage. | ||
| Can you take it out? | ||
| She doesn't consent to you using the footage. | ||
| She's like, I don't know. | ||
| We're in public, so I can use it if I want to. | ||
| And the person's like, you understand it's a little bit weird that you're not respecting her consent. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| It's like it's a sketch, quite frankly. | ||
| It's so bizarre. | ||
| So the next one is Lauren starts talking to a dude at the march, and Alex can't handle that. | ||
| A dude is breaking our ranks? | ||
| A dude is talking? | ||
| Is he a feminist dude? | ||
| Is he a cuck? | ||
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Do you actually think we live in a rape culture, though? | |
| Because I'd say, for the most part, we demonize rapists. | ||
| We send them to prison. | ||
| Guys who make rape jokes lose their job. | ||
| I think we're making great strides in doing that, but at the same time, they're girls. | ||
| Oh, fuck you, Alex. | ||
| Yeah, look at that beta. | ||
| Look at this beta. | ||
| So Lauren coming on the show, she has made quite a splash. | ||
| Alex is thrilled. | ||
| They do an interview, but we're not going to really go over it because it's full of bullshit and we don't want to break it down. | ||
| So Lauren's Rebel Media bona fides are she's a college student in Canada. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And how does she get hooked up with Rebel Media in the first place? | ||
| I believe that she had a YouTube channel and they found her and gave her a job. | ||
| And then they gave her a job. | ||
| Yes, that's what I understand. | ||
| I've seen some of her other work and it is just as propagandistic. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And she's a prominent member of the alt-right. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the reason that I would have just cut this out and been like, this isn't really relevant to the narrative of the Trump investigation that I'm on, but I believe it's relevant because this, I think, Is the point where rebel media becomes a factor in the Infowars verse. | ||
| In the world of Alex Jones, he starts getting in with these folks. | ||
| Which leads him to bring in Gavin McGinnis of the Proud Boys. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Posobiec comes into the picture because of them. | ||
| This is like the recruiting of the Fellowship of the Ring. | ||
| That's what's going on here. | ||
| All of these disparate parts are coming together to destroy the world. | ||
| Yeah, I believe so. | ||
| And as best I can tell, this is sort of the root of it here on June 24th, the day of Alex's vision. | ||
| So that's really fucked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| After this, Alex leaves the studio, and he goes to Buckley's wedding. | ||
| So he's gone from the 25th to the 28th. | ||
| He is out. | ||
| David Knight hosts, so I have no idea what happened. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| On the 29th, he comes back, and like we said, you can listen to that episode that we did. | ||
| We did an entire episode of that. | ||
| There's one thing that we didn't talk about on that episode as much as I would have liked, and that is that he has an interview with a guy, and they talk pretty extensively about how the globalists are to blame for the destabilization of Ukraine, and they're against Russian sanctions. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Uh... | ||
| So much like Jeff Sessions wasn't a part of the Trump team when Alex started kissing his ass, the Russian sanctions part wasn't part of Trump's shit either at that point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Alex is clearly already... | |
| Yeah. | ||
| So that predates... | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| It's very interesting. | ||
| So Alex Jones' support of Russia annexing Crimea, of not sanctioning Russia for this, came before Trump... | ||
| I don't think that he thinks that Russia is totally innocent, but he thinks that it's the globalists' fault and Russia's just trying to help out the people of Ukraine. | ||
| And beyond that, the idea that UN forces are... | ||
| At the door of Russia and it's going to cause World War III is what he's more concerned about. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So that's where that's fitting into it. | ||
| See, because without hearing it, I just see him being like, hey, it's cool that they take over Ukraine. | ||
| But now that if he's seeing that as an opportunity for the UN to grab more power, then now I can see why he would take that. | ||
| More organically? | ||
| Yeah, it does. | ||
| Do you see what I'm saying? | ||
| It fits into his worldview a little bit more because of the involvement of the UN. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And because his imagined influence of globalists. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But at the same time, it is pro-Russia. | ||
| Yeah, which is very suspicious. | ||
| It is. | ||
| Like, why would he start being pro-Russia now? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't have a whole lot of context for that, but I hope to discover it as we move forward through the investigation. | ||
| So now we get to June 30th, where he's back in studio, and this episode is a disaster. | ||
| Alex is, you know, he's been on his vacation. | ||
| He's, you know, still getting back into the groove. | ||
| Hungover. | ||
| He does about a 40-minute ad with Anthony. | ||
| He's now married to his cousin Buckley's wife. | ||
| This is probably before he got remarried. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because it is 2015. | ||
| When they first started. | ||
| Yeah, this is when the divorce was going on. | ||
| Well, it was 2014, I think, is the divorce. | ||
| He said it was three years ago. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| But he does a 40-minute ad for Brain Force. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| With Anthony Gucciardi, who is a writer for InfoWars and apparently some naturopath of sorts. | ||
| Where do these fucking people come from? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I see them congealing from penicillin on somebody's basement floor. | ||
| I don't think Anthony Gucciardi is still around. | ||
| I haven't seen him in current episodes. | ||
| Dead? | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| Just not with the fold. | ||
| And he is incredibly silent for a large part of the time he's on screen. | ||
| Much like Jakari Jackson. | ||
| Well, he's an Infowars regular. | ||
| He knows what's up. | ||
| He knows who butters his bread. | ||
| You know to shut the fuck up. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| But before he gets to that, before Alex does his... | ||
| Daddy's talking. | ||
| It's so long. | ||
| I mean, it's the Sunday show. | ||
| 40 minutes on Brain Force. | ||
| I believe that's a Sunday. | ||
| Let me check my... | ||
| That has the feel of an MST3K episode. | ||
| That's a Tuesday show. | ||
| Tuesday's on Brain Force. | ||
| Yeah, so he does that really long commercial, but before he does, at the beginning of the show, he tells this story that is, I believe, his way of trying to build credibility about himself. | ||
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Okay. | |
| But I don't believe it. | ||
| Let's go ahead and get to the minister. | ||
| Then we'll get into just over the top. | ||
| It's the only word I got. | ||
| There's three articles today on Obama power grabbing, and it's what we thought, but I mean... | ||
| It's even more inventive and wicked and evil than I thought they would do. | ||
| So your dream didn't really do you that much good? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| But also, spoiler alert, he does not get to these news stories. | ||
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Oh, he doesn't? | |
| Because he does 40 minutes talking about Brain Force. | ||
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But it's even more dangerous and terrifying than... | |
| We need to get to this. | ||
| I can't believe he has rights to play Beatles songs either. | ||
| Oh, no, he absolutely does not. | ||
| I can't imagine that. | ||
| No. | ||
| The ghost of Michael Jackson would never allow this. | ||
| No. | ||
| So here we go. | ||
| Nine times out of ten, things are worse than I say. | ||
| I used to get accused of exaggerating a lot because people didn't actually read what we were getting into. | ||
| Nine times out of ten, people say I'm exaggerating. | ||
| It's on purpose to be over the top, again. | ||
| To just overwhelm you and break your will. | ||
| At a genetic, cellular level, it hasn't broken my will, but I just already know all this is coming, so it's almost like we can't oppose it because... | ||
| We've been fighting it so long, we just expect that we've made preparation for it in our hearts and minds. | ||
| And that's why they tell you what they're going to do to you, even though it could unravel their plan, is because humans are designed to adapt, evolve, overcome to their environment, even if it's a scientific takeover. | ||
| So they've tricked us in an algorithm to adapt to our slavery. | ||
| And I know I say that all the time because a very high-level globalist, very sickeningly, schooled me for about an hour on a three-hour flight to New York, first class. | ||
| What happened the other two hours? | ||
| I've told this story many times, but it's key. | ||
| I didn't even get it until I got off the plane. | ||
| And he said, you think people are going to adapt when they have this information and resist? | ||
| They're going to adapt to it. | ||
| What a shitty conversation that must have been. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And he was slick. | ||
| He was smart. | ||
| He was good-looking. | ||
| You know, he was everything. | ||
| And it was just funny to him that his suit looked perfect. | ||
| His overcoat looked perfect. | ||
| I wouldn't even know how to look like that. | ||
| and that he could just arrogantly laugh at me when he walked off the plane. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And so many lay average folks would say to me, Oh yeah, you really talk to this person. | ||
| They would really talk to you like that. | ||
| There's a whole other world out there when you're a quote journalist, a pundit, when people know you live and die by not breaking confidences. | ||
| So you live and die. | ||
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A magic place where everything is Alex Jones on a plane. | |
| Talking to a well-dressed man, giving him a handy. | ||
| So again, our theory about every time he lies, he gives tons of details. | ||
| Suits! | ||
| I couldn't even wear a tie like that. | ||
| But he gets to the end there. | ||
| There's a whole new world that opens up when people know that you live and die by not giving up confidential sources. | ||
| Smash cut to him giving away certain sources. | ||
| Smash cut to him telling people about what his cousin told him about secretive operations. | ||
| Smash cut. | ||
| Cut to what he's about to say. | ||
| Like, he literally says that people open up to you when they know that you would rather die than give up a confidential interaction that you have with somebody. | ||
| Seriously, listen to what he is about to say. | ||
| That the people will say, this is off record, right? | ||
| And I'll go, yep. | ||
| And they'll go, okay. | ||
| You're gonna fail. | ||
| It's like when I had 15 years ago. | ||
| I think his name's Thomas Barnett. | ||
| I'm going from memory. | ||
| He's like one of the heads of one of the war colleges, and he'd done a C-SPAN thing about how the military works for world government, how there's a global government takeover, and how great it is enjoying with Sauron, with all these top generals watching him. | ||
| He wouldn't come on once he figured out I was Alex Jones, not Alex S. Jones of the New York Times, but the other Alex Jones. | ||
| And he goes, you failed. | ||
| Nothing can stop us. | ||
| I mean, it was almost like Emperor Palpatine to Yoda saying, you cannot win. | ||
| Darth Vader will become more powerful than either. | ||
| I mean, at first he said, this is off record, right? | ||
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Thank you for listening to GTA. | |
| John Harmon wouldn't even hear it that long ago. | ||
| I don't know who it was that heard that. | ||
| Only the board operator heard it. | ||
| He was talking to me during the break. | ||
| It is. | ||
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They're trying to get to commercial because they got a hard break. | |
| But did you hear what he said at the end there? | ||
| He's like, the guy said this is off the record, right? | ||
| And then he's like, eh, we will destroy you. | ||
| He's just telling people that now. | ||
| That is literally a demonstration of... | ||
| Him not being... | ||
| Well, that was clearly made up. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| That was obviously made up. | ||
| Like, here's what happened. | ||
| The guy found out he wasn't from the New York Times. | ||
| He found out he was from Infowars and said, no, I don't want to be on your show. | ||
|
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I'm out. | |
| That was it. | ||
| That was the whole thing. | ||
|
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Nobody said, you will fail. | |
| We will destroy you. | ||
| We will destroy you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's a hallmark of a lie. | ||
| So they come back from break and he talks to the board operator. | ||
| The person, the engineer behind the scenes. | ||
| This is such a ramshackle bullshit. | ||
| He's like, hey, you were here. | ||
| That happened, right? | ||
| And he's like, yep, absolutely. | ||
| You heard him say that just like you said, boss. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then Alex also says, at the end there he said that this guy he was talking to said this is off the record. | ||
| And then when he comes back he's like... | ||
| I told that. | ||
| It wasn't off the record. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| Or it was on the record. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| He doubles back to make it like, I didn't give away a blah, blah, blah. | ||
| And it was John Barnett? | ||
| Was that the name that he said again? | ||
| I believe so, yeah. | ||
| So at this point, the show goes on a little while, and he has a really reasonable interview with a banking lady that he actually lets talk a whole bunch. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| And she seems fairly reasonable and gives a lot of reasons for a potential collapse. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's not worth going over on the show because it's... | ||
| Alex doesn't talk at all and she doesn't seem crazy. | ||
| So... | ||
| That's odd. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's about 15 minutes or so of the episode and then we get to this. | ||
| This is right before... | ||
| That's the maximum amount of time they can handle reasonability on that show. | ||
| I think Alex was getting his Brain Force notes in order while she was talking. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So we get to this interview... | ||
| Or not interview, but just entire product plug for Brain Force. | ||
| And Anthony Gucciardi is sitting there silently... | ||
| Through this entire clip I'm about to play for you that is bonkers. | ||
| But I want to be clear, Alex thinks he's playing to Anthony. | ||
| He's talking to Anthony Gucciardi, and Anthony is just going, hmm. | ||
| Making no noises, just nodding his head. | ||
| I want to see, because they've only got one camera, right? | ||
| They're only shooting from... | ||
| No, I mean, like, they're only shooting the direct Alex Jones shot. | ||
| No, there's a couple cameras. | ||
| There's multiple angles? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| God, I want to see, like, the live feed from one of the ones that is pointed on. | ||
| A hard cam on the guest? | ||
| Yeah, on the guest. | ||
| Just, like, fuck what Alex is doing. | ||
| Just stare at them throughout this whole thing. | ||
| Just see the eyebrows go up and down? | ||
|
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Just, like, what is it? | ||
| Just try and get inside the mind of somebody listening to this nonsense. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| So, here we go. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| This is how he... | ||
| What is going to be a 40-minute ad for Brain Force? | ||
| I'm not name-dropping. | ||
| I'm just proud of the fact that I knew Charlton Heston, interviewed him twice, and talked to him a few times on the phone. | ||
| Not bragging. | ||
| I just love Charlton Heston. | ||
| It's hard for me to play that promo about how Soylent Green's becoming reality and see Charlton Heston and just... | ||
| I celebrate humanity, great poets, great actors, great scientists, but I admire Charlton Heston more because... | ||
| Even though he was demonized and attacked, he spent over $10 million of his own money. | ||
| That's not really known, that that's known by inside baseball people. | ||
| $10 million of his own money in that last decade or so, flying around on a private jet, giving speeches for the Second Amendment. | ||
| He wasn't paid by the NRA. | ||
| And by the way, $10 million, even though he's been a huge actor, back then you got paid maybe half a million dollars for starring in a movie. | ||
| He spent most of his money. | ||
| That's why his wife talked trash about him and stuff once he was senile and rolled him out on TV where he, I'm sorry, honey. | ||
| Then a week later they announced he totally doesn't even know who he is. | ||
| Or he interviewed a chair. | ||
| Talk about traitorous. | ||
| Roll him out once he doesn't know who he is to have him denounce everything he stood for. | ||
| I think it was NBC. | ||
| I remember watching that interview going, that's not Charlton Heston. | ||
| That's Clint Eastwood. | ||
| God, honey, these people are sick. | ||
| I just admire Charlton Heston because he was such an honorable person. | ||
| And spent basically his whole fortune to fight for the Second Amendment. | ||
| I feel like Clint Eastwood and Charlton Heston are very similar. | ||
| And I apologize for making that mistake, but at the same time, come on now. | ||
| Dana Gould tells a great Charlton Heston story. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Go listen to that. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So I want to tell a Charlton Heston story. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So Alex goes on after this, after he's put Charlton Heston... | ||
| Spoiler alert! | ||
| It was Earth the whole time. | ||
| He had traveled through time, not through space. | ||
| So anyways. | ||
| Good spoiler. | ||
| Continue. | ||
| So Alex, after this goes on to say that people think that Charlton Heston is racist and that that's because he's not racist. | ||
| Everybody who is racist gets awards like Margaret Sanger. | ||
| And stuff like that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Whereas if you aren't racist, people call you racist because the globalists want to turn upside down world. | ||
|
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Yes. | |
| So here is something from the NRA's website about Charlton Heston. | ||
| This is a little bit of a biography. | ||
| After the assassination of Robert F. Kennedy by a gunman, Heston championed the Gun Control Act of 1968, a landmark federal law regulating firearms. | ||
| Appearing on the ABC's The Joey Bishop Show, Heston said about the act, quote, This bill is no mystery. | ||
| Let's be clear about it. | ||
| Its purpose is simple and direct. | ||
| It's not to deprive the sportsman of his hunting gun, the marksman of his target gun, nor would it deny any responsible citizen. | ||
| Ugh. | ||
| Vietnam War and considered running for the U.S. Senate as a Democrat, but by the 1980s, his political affiliation changed with his endorsement of a Republican, Ronald Reagan for president. | ||
| Ugh. | ||
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By 1997, he had joined the culture war, delivering a fiery speech at the Free Congress Foundation that argued that American society persecuted whites. | |
| A year later, he was elected the president of the NRA. | ||
| Ugh. | ||
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Oh. | |
| you Ugh. | ||
| I mean, that's not an uncommon trajectory, though. | ||
| Like, that's what happened to that entire generation. | ||
| Like, our Fox News-loving... | ||
| Progenitors wind up having that very same arc. | ||
| Like, my dad, 20 years ago, my dad wasn't a vicious, you know, Obama's a birth certificate bullshit thing. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| That didn't happen. | ||
| That wasn't anybody until Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch fucking destroyed the world with their bullshit. | ||
| Took people's families away from them. | ||
| Literally. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So the rest of this episode is that huge ad. | ||
| He yells a lot about how he doesn't care about Caitlyn Jenner. | ||
| He doesn't care about the battle flag arguments that people are having. | ||
| It's all a distraction. | ||
| He goes on to tell, at the end of the episode, he has like two minutes left, and he gets to a news piece that he was going to get to, and it's about how some cops beat up a guy who was handcuffed, and how it's awful. | ||
| It is awful. | ||
| It is, I agree with him. | ||
| That's where we... | ||
| That's full stop, right? | ||
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Sure. | |
| That's it? | ||
| He says that? | ||
| Well, it's just in juxtaposition with him supporting Arpaio and supporting Sheriff Clark. | ||
| Oh, for fuck's sake. | ||
| So, it's like, I agree with the point, but you're not logically consistent. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| The people who are on your team... | ||
| You're thrilled that they... | ||
| They can do whatever they want. | ||
| Or you just ignore that they do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But anyway, here's a nice out-of-context drop to cleanse our palates. | ||
| We are called racist with no proof by MSNBC, ADL, Southern Barby Law Center. | ||
| Add knowledge fight. | ||
| So now... | ||
| Except, no, no, no. | ||
| We call them racist with proof. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| With a shit ton of proof. | ||
| With hours upon hours of listening proof. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So now June is over. | ||
| June gloom has passed. | ||
| And we're into July. | ||
| July 1st rolls around, and David Knight is hosting. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| So I skipped that episode. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| There might be huge revelations happening. | ||
| I don't care. | ||
| That's when they actually are a perfect news outlet, so long as Alex isn't there. | ||
| We just have no idea. | ||
| And you're noticing, too, it is David Knight who's hosting all the time. | ||
| Whenever he's gone, because the people like Owen Schroyer, he's not around yet. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Millie Weaver is not around yet. | ||
| A lot of his team hasn't crystallized yet. | ||
| Yeah, it's much more of a bare-bones crew. | ||
| Actually, Beckford isn't around. | ||
| Rob Dew is, though, but he's mysteriously absent from everything I've listened to so far. | ||
| Which is not all that much of a mystery. | ||
| He's boring as shit. | ||
| Yeah, mysteriously absent gives it... | ||
| Like, he's on a vision quest to find the... | ||
| Might have been. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's still in withdrawals from Super Male Vitality, because his wife told him to stop. | ||
| Do. | ||
| Do! | ||
| You dick too hard, do. | ||
| Stop it! | ||
| So, on the July 2nd episode, most of the narrative that he's pushing is about how the TSA and, you know, airports... | ||
| Basically, are requiring people to have a federal ID in order to travel. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And this is the mark of the beast. | ||
| Oh, wait. | ||
| But isn't he totally on board with that? | ||
| No, very much against it. | ||
| He wants you just to have state IDs. | ||
| Because he believes that... | ||
| Oh, oh, it's not the ID part, it's the federal ID part. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Gotcha, gotcha. | ||
| Even though federal IDs are still like an Illinois driver's license that has... | ||
| Like a federal piece to it, or whatever. | ||
| States that collaborate with the federal government. | ||
| He's super against. | ||
| It's the mark of the beast. | ||
| And he screams about that a bunch. | ||
| Oh, that makes sense. | ||
| But he also does say that he supports ID laws for voting. | ||
| So... | ||
|
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It's a little complicated. | |
| A little complicated. | ||
| So, in the first... | ||
| What blind spots do we have? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Like, that is a, like, he has an ideology. | ||
| Oh, like total logical inconsistency? | ||
| Yeah, that he is completely and utterly just picking and choosing what he's beholden to. | ||
| Like, do you, like, one thing that I think about a lot with this type of stuff. | ||
| Well, I complain about him being homophobic and I hate gay people, so that's one. | ||
| Oh, there you go. | ||
| That's the big one. | ||
| I didn't know that one. | ||
| I didn't know that one. | ||
| Like, for what reason? | ||
| Oh, just because they're gay. | ||
| This is all not true. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But here's the problem. | ||
| Not even any Bible underpinning, just like, oh! | ||
| I'm done with this bit. | ||
| I don't even like the words. | ||
| No, but that's what I'm saying. | ||
| I listen to that and I think, I am not some sort of superhuman. | ||
| I assume that I have my own blind spots like that. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| What are they, though? | ||
| I'm trying to find some place where I would not... | ||
| Apply my philosophy to it. | ||
| I feel like the fact that you're asking those questions means that you'll figure it out, and you probably have figured out things in the past, and then corrected it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that you and I see life, especially philosophies and the political beliefs, as sort of works in progress. | ||
| It's art, to a certain extent, and that circumstances change and your beliefs change. | ||
| There are unalienable principles that you have about human dignity, human rights, those sorts of things. | ||
| But there are going to constantly be shifting economic realities, shifting political realities. | ||
| Like, with Trump not in office, you wouldn't be nearly as radical as you feel right now. | ||
| So that's a change. | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| But the other thing I would... | ||
| I think I would still... | ||
| I think I just wouldn't be as anxious. | ||
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Sure. | |
| But that does motivate or that does change some things. | ||
| But I think that also those inconsistencies or those blind spots are best seen by other people. | ||
| It's often very difficult to see it in yourself. | ||
| You can do as much self-analysis as you want, but in therapy or with your friends are the places that you can best find those things. | ||
| And I don't think Alex has... | ||
| A whole lot of people who will correct him or be like, hey, dude, what about this? | ||
| Yeah, even his lawyer's bad. | ||
| And we have people in our lives who would be like, you're full of shit. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| So, I don't know. | ||
| I think it's more the problem being his inconsistency is on those inalienable things. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That is a problem. | ||
| Like, for you and I, it is bad when anybody gets beat up by the cops. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That is bad. | ||
| And we're always against it. | ||
| He is only against it whenever it is, let's face it, a white dude being, and it's not somebody that he supports. | ||
| Like with Arpeo and all that stuff. | ||
| How do you not apply that same underpinning of, it's bad when cops beat up people. | ||
| It's bad when cops murder people. | ||
| He's super mad about, like... | ||
| What he believes to be police not investigating sexual assaults done by, you know, these immigrants who have come here. | ||
| He's super mad about that, but never really stops to think about how the fact that Joe Arpaio personally oversaw a department that just ignored sexual assault complaints and rape complaints because people were immigrants. | ||
| Let's not get back into how much I... | ||
| Right. | ||
| But that's the inconsistency. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I know there are blind spots that we have, but I don't know what they are. | ||
| If you guys out there listening can find any, I'm open to hearing some. | ||
| Well, that's kind of our point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, we get to July 2nd, and this is a revolutionary moment. | ||
| Because on July 2nd, what would that be? | ||
| 16 days after Donald Trump has announced his candidacy for the president, Alex Jones finally... | ||
| Says Donald Trump's name on his show. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| This is the first instance of it. | ||
| I'll let you see where he lands. | ||
| It begins. | ||
| And Hillary's campaign head was at Bilderberg. | ||
| No one else's campaign head was showing you who the aide to camp is. | ||
| They've got Trump running as the ringer, in my view, against Jeb, who's the second ringer for Hillary. | ||
| And I predict they're going to put Trump and Jeb as the frontrunners by giving them the attention, making a fight between them, worthy of WWF, that Trump's gone out and been part of WWF before. | ||
| I remember seeing it on Clip on the News. | ||
| And then he will bow out to Jeb at the last minute, and then Jeb will fall to Hillary. | ||
| Only in America could you have such synthetic, made-up, fake political garbage. | ||
| God. | ||
| That's very reasonable analysis that everybody was making at that time, basically, right? | ||
| More or less. | ||
| That was pretty much what most people were saying. | ||
| And that might have been part of the problem that everyone was saying those sort of things. | ||
| Because it turns out there isn't a globalist cabal that's controlling everything. | ||
| If there was, maybe that's what would have happened. | ||
| But it turns out the real world works very differently than Alex's fake Fucking narrative. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he, at that point, thought that that was what's going to happen. | ||
| That's the first time he's mentioned Trump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's sort of like... | ||
| It's very blasé. | ||
| Whatever. | ||
| So on the second, he also makes this claim. | ||
| He has an interview with Ron Paul, and he's bringing up Rand Paul, and how Rand is also running for president, and he says this. | ||
| It must be amazing, after all your hard work and success promoting liberty, to see your son. | ||
| Being the only person out of a field of like 11 candidates who's being called radical just because 50 years ago he'd be called middle of the road. | ||
| He's just promoting basic, sane, Americana ideas. | ||
| And I hope and pray that we can get him the nomination. | ||
| But regardless, running, he'll help educate people. | ||
| So, at this point, he's saying that Rand Paul is the only person who's standing up for Americana ideas. | ||
| Yeah, he's on the Rand Paul train. | ||
| He is very much on the Rand Paul train. | ||
| Super into it. | ||
| So, he has this interview with Ron Paul. | ||
| Is there an epiphany? | ||
| Is there, like, one moment where he just switches tracks? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| This investigation is ongoing, my friend. | ||
| You're just making me ask so many questions! | ||
| But that's kind of the point of this thing. | ||
| So, at this point, he gets into a little bit of a sales pitch, and I don't want to play the whole thing, but he says this, and it's really funny to me, so I'm just going to play it. | ||
| I mean, it's real simple. | ||
| I'm a very superstitious person, and I don't mean superstitious about walking under ladders and things like that. | ||
| Though I don't like it when a black cat runs out in front of me. | ||
| Okay, I am superstitious. | ||
| I'm not going to live that sort of stuff, but I'm not super bad. | ||
| I'm not a superstitious person, but I am. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
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Sure. | |
| I just love that. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| I am. | ||
| You know what I mean. | ||
| I know that superstitions are dumb, but I'm superstitious. | ||
| You know what I mean. | ||
| So, as I mentioned at the beginning of the show, and we've talked about a bit along the way, the big narrative that he had been pushing along with all these sort of mini ones that we've been discussing. | ||
| Yes. | ||
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The stupid shit about the Civil War. | |
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| But along the way, he's been having all these interviews with supposed experts like, you know, Paul. | ||
| He does say... | ||
| Specifically, the summer. | ||
| He's talking about maybe the fall. | ||
| Summer, maybe the fall. | ||
| It could be summer, it could be fall, you know what I mean. | ||
| We're already into July, so we're into the summer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, he's basically saying that everything is coming down fast. | ||
| He's also talking about gold a ton. | ||
| And then, on July 2nd, he has a little guest in studio. | ||
| And it's not good. | ||
| He hadn't been on in a long time. | ||
| And... | ||
| There will be a two-minute infomercial at the end of the interview. | ||
| That's not why Ted Anderson is on. | ||
| He is the owner of the GCN Radio Network, the parent company working with Minus Resources. | ||
| Ted was a sponsor for this show 19 years ago when I was a local radio host as a reputable gold and silver company. | ||
| And then he started his own network, Genesis, 18 years ago. | ||
| So I've been syndicated in this time slot, well, 17 years in this time slot. | ||
| One year I was on at night with him when I first got syndicated. | ||
| And I'll never forgive that son of a bitch. | ||
| But he joins us. | ||
| Ron Paul was just on talking about the basically imminent financial meltdown. | ||
| No one knows the exact time, but globalists are headed towards the exits. | ||
| So globalists are headed towards the exits. | ||
| They're evacuating. | ||
| They're going to their armored redoubts. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
|
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Of course. | |
| Mountain strongholds. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it starts to come into focus. | ||
| Now, if you really take a look at this, Ted Anderson owns the Genesis Communication Network that syndicates Alex Jones' show on all these mystery affiliates that are apparently leaving him back. | ||
| So he is basically responsible for most of Alex Jones' success. | ||
| He also owns Midas Resources, which is a gold sales company. | ||
| Which started as a reputable gold. | ||
| I like the way he phrased that. | ||
| It started 17 years ago as a reputable gold and silver company. | ||
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And because of affiliation with me, it's no longer a reputable place. | |
| If you look online, actually, there are some bad reviews of their Midas resources. | ||
| But be that as it may, I don't know enough to say. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Along the way, through the past couple weeks, he has been saying a bunch of stuff about how gold is going to be selling for $50,000 an ounce. | ||
| He's been talking about gold a lot. | ||
| In the context of all this financial collapse stuff, you see even in his introduction for Ted, he brings up that Ron Paul just was on the show saying that financial collapse is imminent. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Alex Jones makes money if they sell gold at the Midas Resources. | ||
| Yeah, it's very simple. | ||
| It's a one-to-one. | ||
| He can't do this. | ||
| He's fear-mongering to sell gold. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And he's bringing on the guy who sells gold on his show to sell gold. | ||
| And saying, we're going to play an infomercial, but that's not why he's on. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's... | ||
| Utterly insane. | ||
| This is the most unethical thing ever. | ||
|
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Gold! | |
| Oh, he talks about gold? | ||
| Basically, he just talks about how gold is about to skyrocket. | ||
| I'll play the clip. | ||
| I'll play the clip. | ||
| This is Alex summing up what Ted Anderson has already said. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because I don't expect people to actually do the smart thing for whatever reason and buy what I believe is the bottom of the market when we know they're manipulating it down. | ||
| When we know the paper is so dangerous. | ||
| I expect people, though, to remember this this fall when it starts racing up. | ||
| I believe it will. | ||
| Not a prediction. | ||
| It's just what I believe. | ||
| That's a prediction. | ||
| And if they can continue to suppress it, I'll be surprised. | ||
| But regardless... | ||
| So his argument is that the globalists are suppressing gold prices because they want to buy it all up and then skyrocket the price this fall. | ||
| And if you don't buy it, you're an idiot. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And you should, oh, the I told you so that's going to come from Alex Jones in the fall. | ||
| I mean, if you look at it, gold prices have not gone up really substantially at all. | ||
| No, they've stayed pretty much consistent. | ||
| It's right around the $1,200, $1,300 an ounce. | ||
| Which is still bananas, but whatever. | ||
| It's pretty crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's held that for quite a while and not really gone up or down substantially to the point where you could really make any money with the amount that an Alex Jones listener could buy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's pointless. | ||
| It's fucking stupid. | ||
| And all it does is sell Ted Anderson's gold. | ||
| This is one of the most unethical things I've ever seen. | ||
| Because legitimately, weeks leading up to this, he's spelling out this, shit's about to collapse, shit's about to collapse. | ||
| The content of his show is leading up to this interview with Ted Anderson. | ||
| He knows that this interview is coming. | ||
| That's the prestige. | ||
| That's the revelation. | ||
| All of the other stuff is to prep the audience, scare them, and get them into a state of mind where they're like, oh yeah, he was talking about how it's going to collapse. | ||
| When he wasn't talking about Ted Anderson. | ||
| All of this stuff does predate him bringing this guy in. | ||
| He's bringing this guy in to help us. | ||
| So you're saying that this was actually a two-week-long infomercial? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| This entire thing was just one build-up of a narrative. | ||
| I believe so. | ||
| And then, at the end, he pulls out the... | ||
| Ta-da! | ||
| Here's the guy who's gonna sell you all this gold that I've been telling you you need. | ||
| Here's the guy who's gonna help you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yes, 100%. | ||
| He created a problem and then... | ||
| Delivered the solution to you. | ||
| He shifted off the Charleston narrative into this collapse narrative, which isn't out of character for him, necessarily. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| And it collapses still within his normal purview. | ||
| But he shifts into it so hard, so immediately, with predictions of the summer consistently throughout the last few weeks, and it's so focused around gold stuff that there's no way it's a coincidence. | ||
| So do you think he got a directive? | ||
| I mean, it's his boss. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So his boss is saying, like, hey, we need to sell some more gold. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I mean, I can't say that for sure. | ||
| It sounds about the only explanation. | ||
| Us saying that is a little bit conspiratorial in some ways, because we don't have any information. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| What that is, is... | ||
| I guess? | ||
| No. | ||
| I mean, that's just simple business, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like we talked about with Chick-fil-A. | ||
| They need to sell more shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they go to their advertising guys and say... | ||
| Put together an ad campaign for us. | ||
| We gotta push it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Put fucking cows up on a billboard. | ||
| Alex Jones is the cows on a billboard for gold. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what he is for Midas Resources. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's... | ||
| Which is what makes him different from people like me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's disqualifying. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| If you're an ethical broadcaster, even if your parent company owns a gold consortium or whatever... | ||
| It's your responsibility to, whenever you bring up gold issues, be like, our company is also owned by the people who own Midas Resources. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Remind the audience consistently whenever you're talking about these collapse narratives. | ||
| That there's a conflict of interest. | ||
| And then when Ted Anderson wants to come on, you have to tell him no. | ||
| You have to tell him, you can't use my platform. | ||
| Or you start, like, if you go to a website and you see sponsored content, you have to, you go, oh, this was paid for. | ||
| If you look at a tweet, you see they put it. | ||
| As it's sponsored. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, it's not... | ||
| So every time Alex Jones brings up collapse, he should bring up this is sponsored content. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| So fucking evil. | ||
| It's the same shit that people do on Instagram. | ||
| Like, they're models and they just have products in the background and they make money for that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, it's insidious advertising. | ||
| So fucked up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, Alex Jones having a prophetic dream was one of the oh shit moments for me in terms of this investigation. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This was another. | ||
| It turns out that that prophetic dream was an email late at night. | ||
| It was about three lines long, but it took him six hours to read, and that email was, God damn it, we need to sell some gold. | ||
| Or you're fucking off these three affiliates. | ||
| I think also Alex might have had some sweets before bed. | ||
| He had some night terrors. | ||
| He had one too many glasses of wine. | ||
| He had some night terrors. | ||
| A little sleep paralysis. | ||
| That happens. | ||
| Towards the end of this episode, Alex Jones, after the interview with Ted Anderson, has another interview with Jesse Ventura. | ||
| Ventura comes back on and lies exactly the same way about what he did in the last interview. | ||
| Still needs money. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| And this time, they take it a step further. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| In this time, when he's on, Alex links Jesse's plight. | ||
| The idea that he's being sued in this appeal of the case that he had won, he thinks that the reason they're doing that is that Hillary knows that Jesse Ventura could beat her, right? | ||
| Jeb Bush is a weak... | ||
| That's his angle? | ||
| Jeb Bush is a weak candidate. | ||
| A lot of his other Republicans are weak. | ||
| Boren out by history. | ||
| Rand Paul is great, but he probably couldn't win. | ||
| Absolutely not. | ||
| He's still whole hog in the Rand Paul camp, but he's trying hard to get Jesse to run. | ||
| And this, so he's not, like I said, this is 16 days after Trump announced his candidacy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's trying to get fucking Jesse Ventura to run. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he's not on board with Trump. | ||
| At all. | ||
| Right. | ||
| 16 days in. | ||
| 16 days after the Mexicans are rapists, some of them are good people comments. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| Not on board at all. | ||
| It wasn't until the grabbing by the pussy tape that Alex was like, finally! | ||
| Someone I can relate to. | ||
| Finally, someone who speaks my English. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| No, I don't know. | ||
| Someone who treats women as objects, yes! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We'll see when we get to that. | ||
| I do guarantee he talked a lot of shit about Billy Bush. | ||
| I'm sure he was... | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Ooh, I can't wait to get into that. | ||
| This weasel. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Actually, I think when that tape came out, he was already full hog. | ||
| Oh, he has to be. | ||
| Propagandist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, we go to July 3rd. | ||
| And this is fucking hilarious. | ||
| And we're not going to play it, because I'm sick of playing Mark Dice clips on the show. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| On the previous day, on the 2nd, they played a Mark Dice video where he was going around asking people if they knew what was celebrated on the 4th of July. | ||
| And there were a bunch of people who were drunk on the beach, and most of them didn't care to talk to him. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And so a lot of them were like, oh, independence? | ||
| And he's like, from whom? | ||
| And a lot of them didn't know. | ||
| Did he say whom? | ||
| No, he didn't. | ||
| I'm just correcting myself. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| So they play that video on the 2nd, and then on the 3rd... | ||
| Alex sends Joe Biggs out to do the same bit in Austin. | ||
| I am assuming that goes amazingly well. | ||
| Goes great. | ||
| Swimmingly. | ||
| Yeah, their whole, like, man-on-the-street shit is so... | ||
| They're bad at man-on-the-street shit. | ||
| It's not funny, and it doesn't make a point. | ||
| So, they do that, and I'm playing this clip because it's the reverse of it, sort of. | ||
| This clip is Alex talking about what happens whenever he goes to, like, abortion rallies and stuff like that. | ||
| I'm gonna play the clip. | ||
| And then I'm going to explain what happened after the clip. | ||
| The clip is hilarious. | ||
| The truth is funnier. | ||
| I told you I'd seen it before, and they appeared when I had cameras at an abortion clinic. | ||
| And they appeared at UT spontaneously. | ||
| They were just there in the crowd, and women just encircled the Christians and went, Satan! | ||
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Satan! | |
| Satan! | ||
| And those women were probably never in a satanic black match. | ||
| They were witches. | ||
| They just know it. | ||
| Their eyes were all just electric with enjoyment. | ||
| Because they could feel the power of all those dead babies and that sacrifice. | ||
| They were joining with Satan. | ||
| And I told you I've been out to abortuaries and people always show up going, I love Satan. | ||
| I want to kill people. | ||
| I want to kill black people. | ||
| And sure enough, they showed up going, I love Satan. | ||
| I stink. | ||
| I have hair under my arms and I kill my children. | ||
| That's all they've got. | ||
| That's their accomplishment. | ||
| That one, guys, I go raise money in the community. | ||
| I've killed 40-something children. | ||
| And I love it. | ||
| I'm going to kill them. | ||
| There's pentagrams all over them. | ||
| I'm liberal. | ||
| I love Satan. | ||
| Oh, Satan, I love you. | ||
| I'm liberal. | ||
| I'm the moral authority. | ||
| I'm in an 80,000 black jaguar. | ||
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Oh, Satan! | |
| Satan! | ||
| I mean, they're just calling out to their God. | ||
| That's who they are. | ||
| And it's their country now to turn upside down and run down and destroy. | ||
| We lost to this. | ||
| So, the 4th of July is a new declaration of independence against them. | ||
| So that is kind of relevant to my investigation. | ||
| The new Declaration of Independence is against Satanists? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or witches? | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| Or just people who worship dead babies? | ||
| Here's the thing. | ||
| On a different episode, I regret that I can't remember which one it was and I don't have the clip, but I'm going to try and find the actual video. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because he does play the video of this. | ||
| Oh, does it happen the way he said it did? | ||
| It's people trolling him. | ||
| It's people fucking with him. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| People were saying that shit? | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| But not in the same way that he's depicting it, but it's people fucking with him. | ||
| The same way that we talk about this in the past, that people wanting to put up satanic things at state buildings, trying to make the point of, you have your religion here, you have to accept all of them. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It's the same thing. | ||
| It's like, okay, you're coming out here, we're just gonna fuck with you. | ||
| And so there's people who are like, Satan! | ||
| Because I see the people, it's like, dude, they're laughing. | ||
| But Alex, because he doesn't understand reality, he hears them and is like, oh, obviously they mean this. | ||
| Obviously they are real Satanists. | ||
| And that's who all liberals are. | ||
| That does make a lot of sense for his worldview. | ||
| If he takes that seriously, then so many other things... | ||
| Then become, like, every time somebody's fucking with him because of how stupid he is, he takes that as more reinforcement for his... | ||
| Like this supposed globalist on the plane who's probably just someone making conversation with him and then laughing at him. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Also, like, he takes insider information from callers. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And random people that he meets become parts of his narratives. | ||
| So, of course, he has no ability to know what is real and what is not. | ||
| And this clip completely demonstrates it. | ||
| And the way he integrates these people trolling him at an abortion rally is that, oh, they're part of a satanic thing that worships abortion. | ||
| That's what liberals are. | ||
| And that fully informs his beliefs about liberals. | ||
| That's breathtaking. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| It is breathtaking. | ||
| How? | ||
| How? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| He is on so much super male vitality. | ||
| It's too much. | ||
| That it has scrambled his brain. | ||
| Iodine's fucking eating holes. | ||
| Don't take his supplements. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| He is fucking insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He cannot delineate the difference between fantasy and reality anymore. | ||
| Pretty much not at all. | ||
| That's unbelievable. | ||
| Which I actually think is a very important piece of my investigation because I think it does fit into a piece of what ends up getting him down the Trump path. | ||
| But I think there's way more to the story that I'm uncovering. | ||
| I want his brain donated to science. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Whenever it may be. | ||
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It's going to be full of brain force. | |
| Let's just fucking get a capsule of brain force and cut it open. | ||
| So, because on the last show he opened the floodgates talking about Donald Trump, now Alex has a couple things he wants to say about Donald Trump. | ||
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Oh, really? | |
| Yep, here's the first one. | ||
| And look, I think Donald Trump's in there for publicity. | ||
| I think Donald Trump will drop out at an opportune time, hand it over to Jeb. | ||
| I think that's what his job is. | ||
| That's what his job is. | ||
| But he doesn't just think it. | ||
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Does he have a high-level source that has confirmed it? | |
| In this next clip, he implies knowledge of something about Donald Trump. | ||
| This clip made me gasp at work. | ||
| When I was researching this episode, I gasped. | ||
| And then I had to walk around the room and go outside and smoke a cigarette. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I was freaked out when I heard this next clip. | ||
| Like you saw three Muslim women in a pool shop. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It freaks him out! | ||
| You go and you show at the university four or five palace-sized houses, 40 million, 13 million, you name it. | ||
| And you say, is this Donald Trump's? | ||
| Everybody thinks he's the richest guy. | ||
| The guy's literally nothing. | ||
| Kind of just a front man. | ||
| For some consortiums on the East Coast, I'll leave it at that. | ||
| Oh yeah, Trump's a piece of work, folks. | ||
| And they go in there. | ||
| It's just mind-blowing. | ||
| I don't even know what to say anymore. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So you know what he's saying there. | ||
| That's mob. | ||
| Consortiums on the East Coast is mob shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's what he's talking about. | ||
| All this stuff that people are now... | ||
| You know, coming out in real research, these mob ties that Donald Trump has, Alex knew about that stuff in 2015, before he ever got on board. | ||
| But when he thought he was just there for publicity, Alex Jones, he knows something. | ||
| Now, I don't know exactly what he knows, but the way he phrased that... | ||
| Yeah, but I... | ||
| So the problem with that is it does have the same ring of a lot of the lies that he's told about other globalists. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| So if he thinks Donald's a globalist, that is perfectly within his worldview to be like, well, just the same way... | ||
| Well, you know, Hillary, she's in the tank with these... | ||
| Demons or whatever. | ||
| He says way more specific stuff about Hillary, though. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| The way that he says, Donald Trump is nothing. | ||
| He's not rich. | ||
| He's a front man for some consortiums on the East Coast. | ||
| I'm not going to get into that. | ||
| He's a piece of work. | ||
| I don't even know what to say anymore. | ||
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That... | |
| I know it does match some of his lies. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| I want to be on your team so bad. | ||
| I'm going to have to pull back on this one. | ||
| I applaud you, and it's reasonable. | ||
| But here's why I still think it's relevant, even if you're holding back. | ||
| The reason is, whenever he does that stuff, whenever he does the, I'm not going to get into it, or all this insinuation stuff, a lot of the time, he's not lying out a whole cloth. | ||
| But he's going off of maybe rumor. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's going off of insinuation or some piece of information that maybe he can't back up entirely. | ||
| Something that he's heard. | ||
| Something that he knows to be true but he's not reporting. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that this falls into that. | ||
| No matter what, even if he's making something up, the thing that he's making up should preclude him from ever signing up with Donald Trump. | ||
| You would think. | ||
| And I don't know. | ||
| Your point is completely valid. | ||
| Now, here is my takeaway so far from what it is we've talked about and how that leads up to Trump. | ||
| Based on this, I can absolutely see it being Ted fucking Anderson who turns the switch on Trump. | ||
| Hmm, that's interesting. | ||
| That, to me, like, if we're seeing this, and I think the argument has been made pretty solidly that we can assume that the disaster narrative that he spun for a couple of weeks was built to sell gold. | ||
| It was an ad. | ||
| It was all one big advertisement. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So, if we're seeing this out of Alex Jones now, then I can absolutely see that Ted Anderson sent him a directive saying, We're on the Trump. | ||
| We're fans of Trump now. | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I mean, I don't know. | ||
| As I said, my investigation is ongoing. | ||
| So that was on the 30th. | ||
| That's my conspiracy. | ||
| I can see some of the enthusiasm in your eyes diminished a little bit because you didn't see me explode. | ||
| No. | ||
| But I'm just not willing to go that far yet. | ||
| I'm not willing to say that Alex actually knew anything. | ||
| I think that that's absurd. | ||
| I know that he's a liar, and that's the premise of our show. | ||
| But I am going to believe him. | ||
| It's not even that I believe him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm putting myself into Alex's head. | ||
| And for him to say that... | ||
| Which you uniquely are placed to do. | ||
| But I'm not saying he knows truth, necessarily. | ||
| I'm saying he knows what he thinks he knows. | ||
| And what he thinks he knows... | ||
| Is that Trump is the front man for a consortium on the East Coast. | ||
| That is what he thinks he knows. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Truth be damned, what is actually real, who knows? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Even at that point, who knows if he... | ||
| Well, the fact that he knows he isn't rich seems to speak volumes. | ||
| And the fact that Alex says Trump is a nothing. | ||
| That he is not wealthy at all. | ||
| That, to me, is something that speaks of him. | ||
| The fine line, I agree with you, but the fine line that you're ignoring, I think, is these times that he lies about these things that he knows, he believes those things that he's lying about. | ||
| When he has these, like... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| When he has these secret sources that give him information and stuff that we've seen over these past episodes, he thinks he has real information. | ||
| And that's more important to my investigation than what the truth is, necessarily. | ||
| I'm interested in why he changed. | ||
| And in order to know why he changed, we have to know what the baseline is. | ||
| We have a start point, which is that he thinks Trump is a globalist. | ||
| Well, no, the start point is even before that. | ||
| It's the Larry Nichols savior mentality. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| No, no, I mean with Trump. | ||
| With this Trump situation. | ||
| His... | ||
| Very first thoughts. | ||
| He hasn't said that Trump's a globalist, though. | ||
| No, but he said that he's being set up with Jeb Bush. | ||
| And it's all a fix. | ||
| He's doing a job. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But that doesn't necessarily mean that he's a globalist. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because Alex would make that proclamation if he did believe it. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He's called everybody else a fucking globalist. | ||
| Yeah, why is he holding back? | ||
| He's not necessarily saying that Trump is one of them or anything like that. | ||
| The fact that he's phrasing it the way he's phrasing it. | ||
| I'm very comfortable saying that what he's implying is some knowledge of Trump's mob ties. | ||
| That is pretty comfortable for me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I think that whether or not he knows that to be... | ||
| I don't know if I'm making my point clear. | ||
| He believes it, and that's enough. | ||
| It's not important that it is true or false. | ||
| What's important is that Alex believes... | ||
| That Trump is controlled by outside sources. | ||
| And he's not really rich. | ||
| It's all fake. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And he's there for publicity for his TV shows. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is, again, what we all think. | ||
| And I think is what was true. | ||
| I don't think that many people necessarily, around this time in 2015, were talking about Trump's mob ties. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I don't think a whole lot of sources were breaking down how a lot of Russian mob money... | ||
| flows through his casinos. | ||
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Right. | |
| I don't think people were talking about how there were tons of mob people who lived in Trump Tower. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is all stuff that's come out since then. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So the fact that those things have come out and bear out with the facts of our reality that we know now, it does lend some credence to maybe Alex was right then. | ||
| But again, that's less important than the fact that Alex believes that. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| So that's where we are sort of at on July 3rd. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now we have the 4th of July happens, and he's off. | ||
| He's off for the 4th of July. | ||
| There's no show. | ||
| And we come back on the 5th of July. | ||
| Everybody's had some nice hot dogs. | ||
| Everybody's celebrated the independence from a country that no one can name. | ||
| Buckley's been married again. | ||
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Buckley's thrice divorced at this point. | |
| And the show opens on July 5th with a John Bowne report about the comments that Trump made about Mexicans. | ||
| 19 days. | ||
| After he made them. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| They have not covered this story at all for 19 days. | ||
| So why bring it up now? | ||
| Yeah, it is interesting. | ||
| Why? | ||
| It is interesting. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So they get into it, and a lot of this episode is kind of... | ||
| There's a bunch of stuff about Greece, about the crisis in Greece. | ||
| There's a lot of... | ||
| Most of the episode, I would say, the lion's share of it, is about how an immigrant murdered a lady on a beach. | ||
| Get rid of all of them, then! | ||
| Alex is really pissed off about that. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| No more immigrants. | ||
| We're starting to see why they're covering the Mexican comments on this show. | ||
| This dovetails together. | ||
| This dovetails into some of his things. | ||
| But, still, a number of his comments can't be squared with that being the reason that he supports Trump. | ||
| Here, I'll get into it. | ||
| Here's the first clip. | ||
| Saying, what about Donald Trump? | ||
| And he's the big topic. | ||
| And we did a report on the Nightly News four days ago, and I covered it a little bit this week. | ||
| But we'll get into Donald Trump. | ||
| Not that he really matters, but the story itself shows how the media operates. | ||
| Because I don't trust Donald Trump. | ||
| But what he said about, very clearly, a five-year-old can understand it, about Mexico's exporting its criminals here, that's admitted. | ||
| So he does support that rhetoric. | ||
| But he doesn't trust Donald Trump because he knows things about him. | ||
| So that is where his headspace is at. | ||
| He drops this a little bit later. | ||
| Obviously Trump is a PR master. | ||
| Obviously the guy gets into these elections to basically promote his TV shows and his casinos and his name. | ||
| I don't trust Donald Trump as far as I can throw an elephant. | ||
| A papa elephant. | ||
| That said, I don't think Donald Trump hates America and hates our basic freedoms. | ||
| And I think pretty much everything Donald Trump says makes sense and is truthful. | ||
| I mean, stuff he says is very accurate. | ||
| He's a smart guy. | ||
| I agree with probably 95% of what Donald Trump says. | ||
| The problem is... | ||
| The guy's tied in with a lot of really seedy people, obviously. | ||
| I mean, come on, he owns casinos, he's in deep with the establishment, and he's as phony as a $3 bill. | ||
| If anybody is a ringer to take Republican votes away and ensure that a second candidate doesn't get in there like Rand Paul against Jeb, and then Jeb can be the ringer for Hillary, if anybody doesn't see that fixes in... | ||
| They're blind. | ||
| Now what do you think? | ||
| Everyone was so wrong back then. | ||
| Even Alex Jones was wrong back then. | ||
| Even Alex Jones was like, Jesus, this is obvious. | ||
| Everyone, everyone, including Alex Jones back then, thought it was so obvious that we wouldn't live in the world we do now. | ||
| God, we're all fucking stupid. | ||
| But don't you see the conflict there? | ||
| Yeah, no, obviously. | ||
| He believes everything that Trump says, 95% of it. | ||
| 95% is truthful. | ||
| But he won't jump in because Trump is connected to shady people. | ||
| Yeah, and Alex seems to know that. | ||
| He seems very certain of that. | ||
| And that didn't sound like the way that he said it last time, which is very similar to the way he... | ||
| Denigrates other people. | ||
| This sounds... | ||
| He owns casinos. | ||
| He's involved with a lot of really shady people. | ||
| This sounds like shit that he thinks is obvious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That he doesn't need to talk about. | ||
| Because everybody knows he's a shitty fucker. | ||
| And the fact that he agrees with the rhetoric, but the rhetoric can't be trusted because I can't trust this guy, means that it can't be that he philosophically agrees with the stuff that he says about immigrants. | ||
| No. | ||
| That can't be enough. | ||
| So that argument, in my investigation, off the table. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That can't be what it is. | ||
| Now, you want to know who else isn't on the Trump bandwagon at this point? | ||
| Roger Stone? | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson. | ||
| Oh, fuck him. | ||
| What do you think about Trump? | ||
| I think, as you said, he's obviously probably a narcissist trying to draw attention to his own business interests, taking away a lot of the vote from Rand Paul, which the polls show that... | ||
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out of all the candidates, he may not be the number one, but he's the most likely to have a chance at defeating Hillary Clinton, which of course we know the establishment fears. | |
| So he's there, as you said, as a ringer to take attention away, take folks away from Rand Paul. | ||
| I don't believe he's inherently corrupt or evil. | ||
| Paul Joseph Watson agrees with Alex at this point that Trump is a shill, and he is there for publicity. | ||
| Everyone shifts their position at some point. | ||
| And the fact that you said Roger Stone, I brought it up earlier. | ||
| Roger Stone's not around. | ||
| He's not around here. | ||
| I think that's the turning point. | ||
| That's when it happens? | ||
| When Roger Stone gets in Alex's ear? | ||
| I don't know when he shows up, but my prediction is as soon as he shows up, things start to change. | ||
| And that leads into what one of my predictions is. | ||
| I don't think Alex made a choice. | ||
| You don't think so? | ||
| I think someone... | ||
| Maybe some of these seedy mob ties that Alex has discussed. | ||
| I think someone might have something on him. | ||
| On Alex? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| You don't think it's just the same way that Larry Nichols is just kind of... | ||
| Using Alex. | ||
| Alex is very easily manipulated. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Let's face it. | ||
| Alex is a dumb child. | ||
| Somewhat, yeah. | ||
| And if you trick him with candy and promises, he will get into the back of your Russian van. | ||
| Your version is much more likely, but I like to keep the suspense of the possibility. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Well, see, the only thing there is that... | ||
| We already have plenty of people who are compromised in the story. | ||
| Like, Roger Stone is fucked. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, all of this shit is more than enough. | ||
| The fact that it doesn't need to trickle down to Alex the actual compromising stuff. | ||
| But all that stuff, to a certain extent, is irrelevant to my investigation. | ||
| Like, I'll let the Senate investigate fucking Roger Stone. | ||
| Like, that's their business. | ||
| I mean, more like, you don't need to go after Alex. | ||
| I do. | ||
| No, I mean for the Russian mob ties, for that kind of thing. | ||
| You don't need to compromise Alex, you just need to sweet talk him. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Like, I don't think... | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I think that Alex Jones, having a career that's built on being anti-people, being corrupt... | ||
| Even though he's corrupt himself with his gold sales shit. | ||
| That's more unethical than corrupt. | ||
| No, it's corrupt. | ||
| It's a thin line. | ||
| I think that if he were to suss out that people were trying to sway him in a corrupt way like that, that would backfire on the people trying to do that. | ||
| You are giving his ability to suss things out. | ||
| Such high praise right now. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| The idea that he can suss anything out. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| He can't even suss out that people are fucking with him at an abortion clinic. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He's an idiot. | ||
| He's a fucking idiot. | ||
| I still hold out. | ||
| He has a mental illness. | ||
| There's something in his brain that is broken. | ||
| Jordan, I get that, and I agree with you, but for the drama of the fact that... | ||
| We're doing three hour episodes. | ||
| Edit this out. | ||
| We're doing three hour fucking episodes of this investigation. | ||
| We gotta at least dangle a carrot. | ||
| Maybe we'll find proof that he's being compromised. | ||
| Man. | ||
| Your version is way more likely. | ||
| I can see exactly what you're building towards, and I can... | ||
| I'm not building towards it. | ||
| I want to believe you. | ||
| I want to believe. | ||
| Listen, I'm the Scully. | ||
| I'm the Scully, okay? | ||
| That's what's happening here. | ||
| You're the poster. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Look, the reality is you're probably right. | ||
| He's dumb and very influenceable, as we've seen with Larry Nichols. | ||
| As we've seen with dreams. | ||
| No, but basically the dream is prompted by Larry Nichols' savior stories. | ||
| Or Ted Anderson's telling him to sell some more gold. | ||
| Or the 20 years of indoctrinating himself, radicalizing himself with this globalist narrative. | ||
| But I still think it's super important. | ||
| That he does say that Trump has ties to the establishment. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he doesn't go as far as to say that he's a globalist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or any of that stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That is important to me. | ||
| In as much as this investigation is about what happened and his whole journey and path with Trump. | ||
| The fact that he's just like, it's not even that he's a globalist. | ||
| It's that he's fucking mobbed up. | ||
| Yeah, that is such a weird... | ||
| That's such a weird angle of attack for him. | ||
| It's not even an angle of attack. | ||
| It's an angle of dismissal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's not even a part of the conversation. | ||
| He's there opportunistically to get fucking promotion for his shows. | ||
| And he's not even a relevant thing. | ||
| Here's who he's really on board with. | ||
| He says it on the July 5th episode. | ||
| He makes it very clear. | ||
| So it's Rand Paul or bust, folks, for me. | ||
| Ted Cruz, really like him? | ||
| Did some bad stuff like supported TPP, so... | ||
| Paul Pence 2026, they're now on sale. | ||
| And they're going to attack Rand Paul because of his relationship with me. | ||
| So, I mean, he makes it... | ||
| Crystal clear, it's Rand Paul or bust for me, but maybe Ted Cruz. | ||
| That's completely in contradiction with what he ends up doing. | ||
| He ends up fucking cucking out Ted Cruz so hard. | ||
| He attacks him because Trump attacks him. | ||
| Something we all felt joy at. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| He goes from this position where I like a lot of the stuff that Trump is saying, the bigotry stuff, I like that bigotry, but I can't trust him because of these things that I know. | ||
| He goes from that... | ||
| To Trump is our savior. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And how does he make that shift? | ||
| Right. | ||
| He goes from not mentioning him for 16 days after announcing his candidacy. | ||
| He goes, he spends his time fucking talking about Chick-fil-A billboards and shit. | ||
| Like, it's nonsense for that 16 days. | ||
| And when he finally starts talking about Trump, it's with awareness, dismissal, and I don't trust him. | ||
| The journey from there to where we end up, I think, is going to be one of the most bizarre Goddamn you! | ||
| You fucking... | ||
| Goddamn it! | ||
| We'll be back. | ||
| You monster! | ||
| We will keep monitoring the present day, of course, of what's going on on The Alex Jones Show, keep you guys abreast of current affairs, but I will be on the background doing all of this research, and we'll be back with another installment shortly of the next week. | ||
| And Alex Jones' 2015. | ||
| And we will see what I can learn. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| It's probably not as sensational as I hope. | ||
| But I have hope that I find something really fucked up. | ||
| Here's my prediction. | ||
| It's going to be a... | ||
| Maybe to throw you a bone on that. | ||
| It's a carrot and stick. | ||
| Roger Stone holding the stick? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| I think he's going to, like, because Trump came on a show. | ||
| Like, I think it is promises that were made to him. | ||
| Like, hey, get on board because we're going to, and again, my theory was that if you get on board and Trump wins, he will come on your show and talk about how great you are. | ||
| I think it's that. | ||
| I think it's also Trump never planned on winning. | ||
| No. | ||
| Trump wanted to, like the theory holds that Trump wanted to start a Fox News and that Alex would get a prominent position there. | ||
| But even if that's the case, that to me is equivalent to blackmail. | ||
| Yeah, well that's what, and then of course the stick is if you don't, then Trump's going to come after you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I think it's a money thing. | ||
| I think it's going to come back to being a money thing. | ||
| And I would also say that I'm sure that Ted Anderson are He's in play. | ||
| Formerly reputable gold and silver guy. | ||
| I am sure he had a part in, look, rich people are jumping on board with Trump. | ||
| You're going to, too. | ||
| Those are the people who would be most likely to buy gold. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But also, they're probably too smart to fall for your tricks. | ||
| So a double-edged sword with this. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| What would you... | ||
| If you are a formerly reputable gold and silver salesman, what do you tell... | ||
| Alex to say. | ||
| What's your best angle to sell shit through Alex? | ||
| I honestly think that if you're smart and you're Ted Anderson, you want Hillary to win. | ||
| You want Hillary to win. | ||
| Everybody wanted Hillary to win. | ||
| I don't think even it would be wise if you're trying to scare people to really support Trump. | ||
| And you can see from the gun manufacturers. | ||
| Guns have been selling at an all-time low recently. | ||
| Their sales have dropped because, of course... | ||
| If you have Trump in there, you're not afraid that Obama's going to take your guns away. | ||
| Yeah, it does limit things. | ||
| I genuinely believe that it was in everyone's best interest for Trump to lose. | ||
| It is mind-boggling to me. | ||
| See, here's the thing. | ||
| I think if you're a propagandist, and Ted Anderson is not necessarily a propagandist himself, but he employs one in order to sell his gold. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And he does it with a lot of other stuff, too. | |
| Like, all these conspiracy websites all have Midas Resources ads on them. | ||
| That's basically their advertising strategy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Is through fear stuff. | ||
| Crazy people. | ||
| Right. | ||
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But I think that if... | |
| Apparently he got really rich off Lunatics. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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That's... | |
| Wow. | ||
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But if your flagship is the Alex Jones show, which it clearly is, and the whole Genesis Communications Network, which includes some other shows that are not nearly as popular. | |
| Uh-huh. | ||
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But if that is your move, and you are dictating Alex's positions, I think the smart thing to do is say, look, he's not going to win, but you stay on that Rand Paul train. | |
| Right. | ||
| That's your smart move if you want to keep selling gold. | ||
| And your smartest move of, well, yeah, because then if you're going against both of them, then you can always fear monger. | ||
| It's a win-win. | ||
| And you can point to Trump. | ||
| You know, like, hey, look, Trump is just as scary as Hillary. | ||
| You can point to the pictures of them together. | ||
| You can do that whole angle on it. | ||
| And that is a fear narrative that you can do. | ||
| You're never going to side with Hillary, but if you side with Trump and he wins, then you're saddled with him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a risky gamble for a propagandist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And I don't think he would have... | ||
| And I think it failed. | ||
| But I don't think he would have made that choice unless there were something else motivating it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think the fact that he's built... | ||
| Wildly. | ||
| It got more successful. | ||
| For a short period of time. | ||
| But even at that point, he's still like, he's built an amazing thing. | ||
| You can't do that if you're an idiot. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| I mean, he's an idiot about other stuff. | ||
| But like, you can't do that if you don't make some decent strategic choices. | ||
| Right. | ||
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And I don't think he would be dumb enough to shackle himself with an inconsistent, possibly mentally degrading candidate that... | |
| For the presidency, that he's going to have to keep with him, and he knows these negative things about, and he knows that he can't trust. | ||
| So I think that there has to be- God damn it, this is fascinating. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I think that there has to- How dare you end on a cliffhanger like this? | ||
| Three hours in- What is this? | ||
| What are we, fucking cereal? | ||
| What's happening now? | ||
| We've been brought to you by MailKimp. | ||
| Yeah, MailKimp. | ||
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| Jesus Christ. | ||
| To be fair, we did try and send an email to the serial people. | ||
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Did we? | |
| Yeah, I sent them an email. | ||
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Oh shit! | |
| How did it go? | ||
| No response. | ||
| Because they were starting their production company. | ||
| I was like, hey, we're doing a show about Alex Jones. | ||
| It's a serial. | ||
| No interest. | ||
| No interest. | ||
| Anyway, if you guys want us to be on some sort of a fucking network so we can make some money, send them an email. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Also, if you want to send us an email, you can at knowledgefight at gmail.com. | ||
| If you want to tweet at us, it's knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| That is correct. | ||
| And our website is knowledgefight.com. | ||
| If you want to go to it, by the time this episode is out, I will have posted a new functionality on the website. | ||
| I have built a calendar, and it's going to be ever-growing in terms of the content that's on it. | ||
| But as it is now, I've posted a lot of clips from the month of June 2015, Each episode, I have a breakdown of what happened on that day's show, and I'm going to keep updating it as we go along, also build in the current day, all this. | ||
| It's going to be a massive resource for people, if you just want information, without listening to three-hour episodes, about what was going on on this day. | ||
| Because there's a lot of days we don't cover. | ||
| So there's going to be information there about what bullshit narratives he was pitching, so we can, you know, we all have memories, you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's important. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Listen, Alex Jones thinks you guys don't have memories. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He banks on it. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Takes it to the gold bank. | ||
| As we have documented many times. | ||
| Guys, to give you an idea of the staggering level of work that Dan is doing, just look at this website. | ||
| It's fucking bananas. | ||
| Look at this notebook in front of me. | ||
| He's got notes upon notes upon notes. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| Generally, I don't do this, but become a policy walk. | ||
| Because fucking... | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| Dan, you are losing your fucking mind. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| I'm happier than ever. | ||
| I know! | ||
| I'm doing great. | ||
| That's terrifying! | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| So yeah, please help Dan out. | ||
| Become a policy walk. | ||
| If everybody who listened donated a lot... | ||
| Let me rephrase that. | ||
| If we had $45 million... | ||
| If George Soros donated a lot, if our boy George Soros would hit us up, I could turn this into the job it already is and not have to work a full-time job and imagine what I could find if that was the case. | ||
| For those of you who have already become policy wonks, thank you so much. | ||
| For those of you who have... | ||
| I don't think any non-policy wonks are still listening at three hours. | ||
| Let's be clear. | ||
| I think everyone's turned it off. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Anyway, you know what? | ||
| A lot of tragedy in the world. | ||
| It's a real rough place, but we can hang our hat on one thing. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| Rappaport still lives! | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |