Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on the May 10th episode of the Alex Jones Show, on the heels of FBI Director Comey's abrupt termination. Topics covered include: Robot rats! Does Alex Jones ever look up a fact before saying it? How cheap are t-shirts at the InfoWars Store? Does Alex have anything substantial to say about Comey's firing?
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| We're a couple dudes who like to sit around, drink red wine, and discuss the ongoing saga that is the downfall of America. | ||
| Through the lens. | ||
| Which lovingly coincides with the downfall of Alex Jones. | ||
| And there are many parallels to draw. | ||
| There certainly are. | ||
| You know, he believes that he's the archetype of a Texan. | ||
| It's possible that he is a living embodiment of not only his childhood dog, Nock, but also... | ||
| The union. | ||
| And I don't know anything about Alex Jones. | ||
| We like to sit around and talk about Alex Jones. | ||
| I know a lot. | ||
| You know nothing. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Intro committed. | ||
| Yeah, we're going to be able to just get it down to like a half a sentence. | ||
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Kaboom! | |
| Eventually. | ||
| Why would we do that? | ||
| It's more fun to draw it out as long as humanly possible. | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| It certainly hasn't hurt our numbers yet. | ||
| Speaking of our numbers, ladies and gentlemen, I'd like to give a shout out to our new donator, Chris M. What's up, buddy? | ||
| I'm a policy wonk. | ||
| Congratulations on becoming a policy wonk. | ||
| Hi, Chris. | ||
| Welcome to the fold. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| We're going to need more of you very shortly. | ||
| We probably will. | ||
| Hey, look, I'm glad anybody's donating. | ||
| Fuck it. | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| It is great. | ||
| This is great. | ||
| It is great. | ||
| I love that people love what we do. | ||
| This is our third episode in three days that we're going to be putting out, one of which was three hours and 40 minutes long. | ||
| I don't remember that one. | ||
| People still seem into it. | ||
| So, thank you all. | ||
| Luckily, yes. | ||
| So, we've got to talk about the world, Jordan. | ||
| We've got to talk about what's going on in the world. | ||
| You know what I just keep thinking? | ||
| What keeps going around and around in my brain is that white people... | ||
| We'd rather end democracy than allow people of color to participate. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
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Yeah, probably. | |
| That's really the root of all... | ||
| White people voted for people so blatantly corrupt, so absolutely evil, that they are getting none of the benefits that they were promised, and all of the fucking that they weren't. | ||
| Doesn't it kind of bring to mind the idea of, like, Manson's helter-skelter? | ||
| Yeah, it really kind of does. | ||
| We're going to precipitate a race or class war and let everyone kill each other off and then we'll hide out and remain. | ||
| Right, exactly. | ||
| So, welcome, new policy wonks. | ||
| We will be... | ||
| We'll be making the argument that Manson was right all along. | ||
| We certainly will not be doing that. | ||
| We will, however, be taking your donations and using them to build a compound that we put into the forest. | ||
| All policy wonks are welcome to join us as we wait out the class war. | ||
| We're going to put it into a head in Easter Island. | ||
| Any policy wonk that can get there is welcome. | ||
| So, Jordan, since we last recorded, actually we referenced this on yesterday's episode, but FBI Director Jim Comey got fired. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| Yes, he did. | ||
| And it was within the specter. | ||
| Of his growing Russia investigation. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Just before he had gotten fired, clearly by Trump's orders. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That also has come out. | ||
| But just before that, he had requested resources to expand the investigation. | ||
| Oh, bad idea. | ||
| Which is a strong indication that they were really coming to it. | ||
| Couldn't think of any reason why. | ||
| So, he gets fired, and... | ||
| No, the paper trail and the documents that come out indicate that Jeff Sessions and his deputy... | ||
| Technically recused from the investigation. | ||
| His deputy, not so much, but they had advised Trump to fire Jim Comey. | ||
| But then it comes out that Trump had asked them to advise him to fire him. | ||
| Yeah, that makes sense. | ||
| So it's all this circular nonsense. | ||
| Technically, they still did advise him to fire Comey. | ||
| Certainly. | ||
| That is technically a true statement, unlike multiple statements Jeff Sessions has made under oath. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| It's boggling. | ||
| But the world is a fucked up place. | ||
| It's not appropriate, I don't think, to compare this to Nixon and the Saturday Night Massacre. | ||
| Is that because it's way worse? | ||
| Well, I think even beyond it just being worse, the circumstances are super different. | ||
| You know, like, that was just a break-in. | ||
| That was just them breaking into something. | ||
| This is technically a break-in, meaning that Russia broke into our political system and destroyed it. | ||
| But Nixon wasn't helping a foreign power break into the Watergate Hotel. | ||
| He was doing that for purely selfish reasons and for self-advancement. | ||
| Now, the people involved in Trump's team obviously have self-advancement that they are interested in. | ||
| But this is directly like, I am firing someone who is investigating me. | ||
| And I want to be clear. | ||
| Partisanship aside, I don't give a fuck. | ||
| If Obama was under FBI investigation and he fired the FBI director, I would be just as, like, blown away. | ||
| And, of course, Republicans would be shitting themselves on the front lawn of the White House. | ||
| Yeah, it would be over. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| No, it's... | ||
| This is my reaction to the world. | ||
| That sums it up. | ||
| I've got nothing. | ||
| I'm speechless. | ||
| I understand that you're speechless, but thankfully we have a man who is never speechless at our disposal. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| And that man is Alexander Emmerich Jones, who went on air today and I gotta say, looked rough. | ||
| I can't imagine why. | ||
| He looked tired. | ||
| Hungover. | ||
| That was what I was getting at. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He might be hungover. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, he gets on the air, and this is how he starts out his broadcast. | ||
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He aligns himself with the truth, and it's time for you to choose a side. | |
| You're listening to Alex Jones. | ||
| Obviously, I hate to tell folks, even the general area where we get our information from concerning the White House, because the media has a big field day with it and tries to shut off the sources. | ||
| That is a direct reference. | ||
| To Donald Trump's sons. | ||
| Yes, to him outing Cernovich's sources. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| I hate to do it, even though I did it like a week ago. | ||
| Look, Mike, I'm sorry. | ||
| I'm sorry, Cernovich. | ||
| Even though the media blows it out of context. | ||
| I was on the phone very, very late last night talking to multiple sources, and then I called Roger Stone about 11, Texas time, midnight. | ||
| His time, we talked for over an hour. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| I think when he says he was on the phone with multiple sources, he's talking about the three wise men, Johnny, Jack, and Jim. | ||
| You know what I'm talking about? | ||
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He was on the phone with some whiskey. | |
| That's my guess. | ||
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I guarantee he had a very drunken phone call with Roger. | |
| Roger, Roger. | ||
| Roger, baby. | ||
| Is it coming down finally? | ||
| Are we going down? | ||
| To quote Elder Skelter, is it coming down fast? | ||
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And he confirmed a lot of what I was learning from other sources. | |
| And of course, Roger's one of the only people now that Trump still routinely talks to outside of the White House. | ||
| No! | ||
| Now, I don't know how much Roger will get into today, but I, from my other sources, separately have exactly what happened with Comey. | ||
| Comey was compromised. | ||
| Had been compromised for a long time. | ||
| And... | ||
| It was being clearly manipulated by deep state sources to try to exert pressure onto the White House, to have the White House carry out the deep state's political aims with this whole fake Russia narrative that if they didn't basically do what John McCain and others wanted, they would continue on with hearings and try to impeach the president. | ||
| If that is what your source told you, your source is very nonspecific and happens to sound a lot like you. | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| It's funny how all of his sources believe exactly what he has already told us. | ||
| I got it from a good source that Jim Comey has been compromised by globalists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Good source. | ||
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Thank you. | |
| He's got it from a reliable source. | ||
| Thank you, Alex. | ||
| He doesn't even... | ||
| He sounds like he doesn't even believe this bullshit. | ||
| And this is what I want to get to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I think it'll become clear as this goes along, but this is the... | ||
| I sincerely believe... | ||
| my lifetime. | ||
| Agreed. | ||
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In the 33 years that I've been alive, I've not seen anything close to this. | |
| No. | ||
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And I think it's one of the most dangerous times, and if we don't make the right moves, we could lose a lot of our democracy. | |
| Yeah, it's gone. | ||
| But that said, the way Alex Jones is responding to this means he knows they're fucked. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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He knows, I believe, that... | |
| Comey getting fired is a nail in the coffin for most of the Russia people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He knows that Roger Stone is going to prison. | ||
| He knows that fucking Manafort is done. | ||
| He knows Flynn is, like, days away from a grand jury. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He knows these things. | ||
| And he's not stupid enough to think that, like, oh, yeah, getting rid of Comey is going to help that. | ||
| And I think... | ||
| You would have to be really stupid. | ||
| You would have to be some kind of colossal moron to think it's a good idea to get rid of Comey at this point in time. | ||
| You would have to be some kind of absolute fucking idiot. | ||
| You would have to be some kind of stupid person heretofore unseen by this planet. | ||
| If you think that that is a great idea, you probably are dumb enough to think that, like, There are globalists infiltrating everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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If you fire Comey, you might be the president. | |
| You know what would be great? | ||
| We should do a Foxworthy book. | ||
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You might believe in the globalists. | |
| So, you know, he's going to get to the point where I think it's pretty clear, if you're looking at it objectively, he is not saying what he feels. | ||
| He's reacting, and he's a panicked man. | ||
| Alex Jones is scared. | ||
| He is shook. | ||
| He is shook as fuck. | ||
| But he's going to flex a little bit. | ||
| There's going to be some bravado, and we'll see that along the way. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So before we get to any of the real juiciness, he's got to explain to you what Jim Comey's real crimes were. | ||
| What are Jim Comey's real crimes? | ||
| You're going to find out. | ||
| Comey ignored crimes that were ultra-massive. | ||
| And he followed the orders of the Attorney General, who was so corrupt she would sit there and meet on airplanes with Bill Clinton on the tarmac while he was under criminal investigation by her agency, Loretta Lynch. | ||
| That's one area. | ||
| But it's also the fact that Comey is seen as weak and as very, very manipulative, but in a candy-ass way. | ||
| Lordy, lordy, lordy, lordy. | ||
| I didn't know. | ||
| My goodness, I had two doors I could go down. | ||
| I had one door that was cover-up, and I had another door that was getting involved in the politics of lordy, lordy. | ||
| I hate it when people get involved in the politics of lordy, lordy. | ||
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Lordy, lordy. | |
| Look who's not 43. Alex Jones, you're lying about your age. | ||
| But also... | ||
| His most important lie to date. | ||
| Yeah, certainly. | ||
| The one we are truly here to fight. | ||
| Realistically, I think he's probably about 50. And if that's the case, then super male vitality works even better. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Alex, you should come out and tell your real age. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| We should have an age counter on the website that just chronicles how old Alex Jones is. | ||
| If he's 43, he looks like shit. | ||
| And his supplements are not working. | ||
| Anyway, that's beside the point. | ||
| He claims that Comey is real crime. | ||
| That sounds like something that we would spend like 20 minutes on. | ||
| How old do you think he is? | ||
| I would go 47 myself. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Early 40s, no fucking way. | ||
| No fucking way. | ||
| When I realized that if he's 43, that's 10 years away from where I'm at? | ||
| No. | ||
| No way. | ||
| Not a chance. | ||
| And I've lived hard. | ||
| Better start taking that super male vitality. | ||
| Prostagard on sale now. | ||
| Liver cleanse. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Potassium cyanide! | ||
| Sure. | ||
| For the discerning Alex Jones listener. | ||
| So he gets into the... | ||
| Comey's real problem is that he let Loretta Lynch off and didn't prosecute her, which I'm not sure... | ||
| There is nothing to prosecute. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| He said she was under investigation. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| She met with Bill Clinton when he was under investigation. | ||
| He wasn't. | ||
| The foundation was. | ||
| Yeah, Bill was never under investigation. | ||
| And he wasn't under investigation by the Department of Justice. | ||
| There were things that were being looked into by the FBI with the Clinton Foundation, but that wasn't the DOJ. | ||
| Well, I mean, we all know there's a separation between those two. | ||
| We know they're independent. | ||
| Well, this was like six months ago, so there was back then. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So then his real crimes. | ||
| What's his real crimes? | ||
| He's weird. | ||
| He's very manipulative, but in, like, a candy-ass way. | ||
| He's a pussy. | ||
| I don't understand what... | ||
| He's a cuck? | ||
| He's a globalist? | ||
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Exactly. | |
| He's a pussy? | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Compromised. | ||
| Deep state sources. | ||
| But, like, legitimately, I'm not cutting out, like, any real substance. | ||
| This is the kind of thing he's pointing the finger at. | ||
| He's like, everyone knows he was... | ||
| He's a pussy. | ||
| He's a pussy. | ||
| You can't have a FDI director who's a pussy? | ||
| No. | ||
| And Alex Jones, I mean, he's... | ||
| He's a guy who's not going to put up with pussiness. | ||
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Uh-uh. | |
| And this next clip is actually where he gives what I would describe as the first time he tries to incite violence on this episode. | ||
| Are we going to keep a counter? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| And so there's major power jockeying. | ||
| I've told the president this myself in person. | ||
| And I've said it here on the broadcast a hundred times at least. | ||
| And I'm going to say it again when we come back and Roger Stone joins us. | ||
| We're not looking for trouble. | ||
| We're not looking for revolution. | ||
| We're not looking for bloodbaths. | ||
| The globalists and their leftist hordes and their refugees are here to destabilize the West and are trying to push a narrative of violence and overthrow and kill the police and war in the streets and all this garbage. | ||
| And we are involved in dereliction of duty if we don't do something about it. | ||
| So, it's not quite, like, out-and-out violence, as it will be later. | ||
| It's Trump saying, like, well, you Second Amendment people, you should probably do something about this. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| There is a thing that's going to hit different ears differently, but even beyond that, it is sort of a call to political violence. | ||
| It's a call to... | ||
| And that seems to be one of his main themes, is, like, Trump, you better fucking lock it down now. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is kind of a good point. | ||
| It is a good point. | ||
| If you're just trying to, like... | ||
| You know, war games, how to start an authoritarian regime. | ||
| You've got to lock it down now. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| If he had any terrorist attack, it is all over. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| I mean, frankly, I think at this point... | ||
| There was a kind of big one yesterday over in... | ||
| I mean, it wasn't in America. | ||
| Or the West. | ||
| Nobody's paying attention to anything right now. | ||
| No, imagine even better. | ||
| A Black Lives Matter protest turns violent. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| All democracy is over. | ||
| You end up with, I mean, you know, another Kent State. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kent State with terrorism mixed in. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Yeah, totally. | ||
| No, we are on the razor's edge of who gets their martyr first. | ||
| That's kind of where... | ||
| Because it's hard to imagine any situation that this doesn't eventually lead to either mass-scale revolts, riots, or... | ||
| I mean... | ||
| I don't want to say Civil War, but I want to say if you're Captain America... | ||
| If you're Captain America, everybody else is fucking Iron Man. | ||
| Well, listen, I think that maybe a more delicate way to put it would be what we were talking about earlier with the idea that this is the most complicated and dangerous period of our lives, politically. | ||
| And in order for us to avoid a revolution, to avoid a civil war, it's like threading a needle. | ||
| There's going to be really precise things that need to be done, or we're going to botch this thing, and people are going to end up killing each other. | ||
| Yeah, and I'm really glad we have a government right now that is famous for its ability to thread needles gently. | ||
| Sure, yeah. | ||
| To really navigate a way to success. | ||
| Speaking of someone who would never make a good so-stress... | ||
| I don't know if that's the right word. | ||
| Seamstress. | ||
| But I don't know if seamstresses... | ||
| Do they sew a lot? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I guess they do. | ||
| That's their whole thing. | ||
| It's a so-stress. | ||
| Anyway, I don't really remember exactly what this... | ||
| It's a so-strewgy. | ||
| I don't remember exactly what this clip is about, but it has to do with Trump. | ||
| Trump has to drop the hammer on him. | ||
| His attorney general has to start the moves for the indictments right now. | ||
| So that's what needs to happen right now. | ||
| And then Trump will be the superstar president we need who restores the republic. | ||
| She's already doing it economically and militarily. | ||
| He's done nothing! | ||
| Obviously, he's an American president. | ||
| He's done nothing! | ||
| Say what you want about him. | ||
| That's why the elites are pissed because we've actually got somebody in there that really does care about the interests of this country. | ||
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He cares about him! | |
| All the special interests that have been raping us forever are now freaking out realizing there's a new sheriff in town. | ||
| Yeah, the new guy who's raping us! | ||
| The new sheriff. | ||
| Yeah, the new rape sheriff! | ||
| The new fucking monster! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean... | ||
| I mean, I guess trade the monstrous kleptocrat you know for the ones you don't. | ||
| But, I mean, you got that there at the beginning there. | ||
| I mean, it is just a further, like, we've got a call to arms. | ||
| Sessions has got to get people in front of grand juries. | ||
| Drop the hammer. | ||
| But you know that is one of the biggest hallmarks of these Banana Republic authoritarian... | ||
| Dictatorships. | ||
| Kangaroo courts. | ||
| Yes, they end up punishing their political rivals with false charges. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so if you want... | ||
| Alex is going to give a litany of fake charges against Hillary Clinton throughout the rest of this. | ||
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Great. | |
| And so he is advocating for the beginning stages of a dictatorship. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| And I don't understand why. | ||
| Well, because he's a strong man. | ||
| He's a strong man. | ||
| And in these times, we need a strong, 70-year-old, mentally deficient, fat, just poorly proportioned. | ||
| We need an orange grimace. | ||
| That's who we need. | ||
| We need a president who kind of looks like he has a butthole in his neck flap. | ||
| Sometimes when it folds just right. | ||
| Yeah, but I get that that is a decent argument. | ||
| I think there's a little bit more going on. | ||
| We'll explore it as we go along. | ||
| But in this clip, Alex basically just shows that he does not understand subtleties of life at all. | ||
| Well, President Trump, 45, told Comey, the incredibly political and globalist operative that had been protecting the Clintons for many years, he told him, you're fired. | ||
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Yeah, especially when he kept him from getting elected. | |
| And now the Democrats are acting like it is the end of the world, or they're saying it's Nixonian, we've got to impeach President Trump, and they're the ones just three months ago calling for him to be fired. | ||
| So that's the subtlety he does not get. | ||
| The idea that people wanted him fired when he wrote that letter right before the election, Democrats wanting him fired, that makes total sense in that context. | ||
| And a lot of people still harbor a lot of bad feelings about that, and rightfully so. | ||
| But at the same time, that's a very different thing than firing someone who's actively investigating you. | ||
| It's slightly different. | ||
| It's a bit different. | ||
| It's a little bit different. | ||
| Like, they're not at all the same. | ||
| We're being glib. | ||
| No. | ||
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No. | |
| Not even close. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| And I can't think of any other situation other than that Nixon firing the investigator looking into him. | ||
| Cox? | ||
| Which Cox? | ||
| Archibald Cox. | ||
| William Cox? | ||
| No. | ||
| He's a great character actor. | ||
| Archibald Cox is the name of the guy. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And Roger Stone later makes a great pun about that, about how Nixon fired Cox, so he's a cocksacker. | ||
| It's funny because Roger Stone was involved with Nixon, too. | ||
| My favorite part of Roger Stone being on is eventually, I guarantee he's going to be allowed to do interviews with Alex from prison. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| He has a Nixon tattoo on his back. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| I know that's true. | ||
| And I forget it instantly because how can that be true? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| We'll get to him later. | ||
| So in this next clip, in addition to Alex Jones not understanding the subtleties of wanting someone fired for one thing and not wanting them fired for a different thing, he also does not understand the nature of false equivalencies. | ||
| Well, the media and Congress is saying, basically, and the White House is saying it was that he didn't know the chain of command and did whatever he wanted to. | ||
| And now they're saying Comey sought more money for Russian probe days before he was fired, officials say. | ||
| Washington Post. | ||
| Well, Trump was tweeting last week. | ||
| Why aren't you looking at the uranium deals in Hillary and the Podestas? | ||
| Why aren't you looking at her meeting secretly with Putin? | ||
| Why aren't you involved in her economy in China or the OPM hack? | ||
| Why is it all... | ||
| General Flynn went and got paid to go on RT television, and he had gigs with the Germans and the British and the Turks and everybody else, you know, when he was in a private citizen. | ||
| That's the big bottom of the rabbit hole here. | ||
| So that's not the... | ||
| Why is it all those treasons? | ||
| Why is everybody thinking about them treasons? | ||
| Call me David Brock, because I'm about to correct the record on this shit. | ||
| So, he says, like... | ||
| Trump expressed to Comey, why aren't you investigating Hillary's crimes like the uranium deal? | ||
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Right. | |
| Which isn't true. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| I've written up a long, extensive thing that documents exactly what was going on with that. | ||
| She was not actively involved in that at all. | ||
| It wasn't a uranium deal that sold things to Russia at all. | ||
| It wasn't. | ||
| That's just a complete lie. | ||
| If the FBI was to investigate her for that... | ||
| Or anyone was to prosecute her for that? | ||
| It would be a bogus prosecution. | ||
| That's why they wouldn't do it. | ||
| Is just refer them to knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Yeah, check that out, you dumb assholes. | ||
| Your investigation is over. | ||
| And I'm not here to say that Hillary Clinton's a saint, but that's a bad way to target her, because that's bullshit. | ||
| That's a fake story. | ||
| It sounds good, and it was in that full of lies documentary Clinton cache, but it's not true. | ||
| It's not real if you get down to the bottom of it. | ||
| So he's like, hey, why is everybody always investigating this? | ||
| Why are you spending all this time on the fact that Mike Flynn got paid $100,000 to go to Russia? | ||
| I love even that. | ||
| The fact. | ||
| He's just admitting why he's being investigated for obvious reasons. | ||
| But that's only one piece of it, too. | ||
| It's not that. | ||
| That's not it. | ||
| If that was it, that would be dicey. | ||
| But it wouldn't be... | ||
| What we're experiencing now. | ||
| Right. | ||
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You have multiple members of Trump's team who have lied under oath about contacts with Russian agents. | |
| Right. | ||
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So that is on its face a problem. | |
| You have Jared Kushner lying and omitting information on his security clearance forms. | ||
| Right. | ||
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About meetings that he had. | |
| Right. | ||
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You have Manafort and Flynn both retroactively registering as foreign agents. | |
| After they have been fired from Trump's campaign. | ||
| You have Carter Page acting like a complete weirdo on television. | ||
| Oh, he's a wackadoo lunatic. | ||
| He's giving up the game on live TV. | ||
| Oh, he doesn't even give a shit anymore. | ||
| You have documented evidence that Mike Flynn was working with Erdogan to try and extradite Gulen. | ||
| That cleric who lives in the Northeast somewhere. | ||
| And took a lot of money for it. | ||
| That Erdogan wants taken back so he can kill him. | ||
| And we... | ||
| I have a foreign policy that says, no thank you. | ||
| We don't want to do that. | ||
| So Mike Flynn was working with a fucking Turkish dictator to try and subvert our foreign policy for money. | ||
| Those things are documented. | ||
| And then on top of that, Devin Nunez was involved in that. | ||
| And he did a lot of really fucked up stuff with confidential information. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is clearly a cover-up. | ||
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Right. | |
| So, like, to say it's just Mike Flynn went on Russian television and sat next to Putin at a table, that's not really what we're talking about. | ||
| No. | ||
| But Hillary did sell that uranium. | ||
| Oh, well, then we're done here. | ||
| But she didn't. | ||
| It's so fucked up. | ||
| It's a false equivalence based on lies on both sides. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's lying about how bad the fake thing about Clinton is and lying about how benign the actually really bad stuff about Flynn and the rest of them is. | ||
| He is treating his viewers like babies. | ||
| Like, he's literally holding up keys over here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And just saying, look at the jangly keys! | ||
| Look at the jangly keys! | ||
| Lordy, lordy, lordy! | ||
| All these jangly keys over here! | ||
| He constantly yells about, like, people having no memory, and the globalists want you to have no memory. | ||
| He's actively exploiting or hoping that his audience doesn't have a memory. | ||
| Right. | ||
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Or doesn't look into things. | |
| And if they do, he fucking prays that they only read Breitbart. | ||
| They only do research on the fucking conspiracy boards on Reddit and shit like that. | ||
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Well, they do. | |
| I know. | ||
| They do. | ||
| That's all they do. | ||
| And it's crazy. | ||
| That's all they do. | ||
| They only do that. | ||
| Or zero hedge. | ||
| If you still support this, You're dumb or you're evil. | ||
| I used to add in denial. | ||
| Now you're just dumb. | ||
| You can't be in denial anymore. | ||
| You're dumb or you're evil. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| If you still support Trump, I am done. | ||
| I am done protecting feelings. | ||
| I'm done trying to understand anything. | ||
| Your real problem is you are fucking stupid. | ||
| Can I put a fine line? | ||
| Because there's a Venn diagram between evil and stupid that is racist. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's sort of both, but it's not fully either. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It is both. | ||
| It is both, but racism isn't only stupidity, and it's not only evilness. | ||
| It's sort of a nice... | ||
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It's a yin and yang of both. | |
| It's a gestalt, as Alex might say. | ||
| So at this point of the show, Alex Jones has a big get for an interview. | ||
| The guy who's on his show almost every day, Roger Stone. | ||
| Who could he have gotten? | ||
| Roger Stone. | ||
| A big get? | ||
| Donald Trump's children? | ||
| To talk about the fact that Comey got fired, he brings in Roger Stone. | ||
| Someone who was a target of the investigation. | ||
| I don't think he has any personal involvement. | ||
| I think he can maintain his objectivity in this interview. | ||
| You think Stone can? | ||
| Yeah, he was. | ||
| He was a member of multiple administrations. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Everybody knows that he's a trustworthy and reliable source. | ||
| There's no doubt about that. | ||
| He is famed. | ||
| Famed! | ||
| From sea to burning down to the ground sea. | ||
| As a glamour puss? | ||
| As an absolutely gorgeous man. | ||
| He is a fashion puss, if there ever has been one in our politics, and this is Alex Jones' introduction. | ||
| So joining us from the airport, flying to New York to be on the Today Show tomorrow, in two days, his big Netflix show, Hit Me Roger Stone, that yours truly is also in, is set to premiere. | ||
| It's got amazing ratings from the critics that have already seen it. | ||
| That can't be true. | ||
| So I look forward to seeing that, obviously. | ||
| Netflix, Get Me Roger Stone, the notorious GOP operative, plays both narrator and villain. | ||
| So, Get Me Roger Stone. | ||
| That is coming up in T-48 hours on Netflix. | ||
| But going to Roger Stone, he's got a Fox News crew and a bunch of other crews following me around at the airport, giving us the first exclusive today on exactly what is breaking down and happening with Comey. | ||
| Roger, let's go over from your sources. | ||
| So, I mean, I can't reiterate this enough. | ||
| It's a bad look. | ||
| In the same way that Trump had Comey fired, and then the next day he was meeting with the foreign minister of Russia. | ||
| Privately. | ||
| And would not allow United States press in there. | ||
| And Sergei Kislyak. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Kislyak. | ||
| The guy. | ||
| The one guy who is at the center of... | ||
| All of this. | ||
| At the center. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He is the guy. | ||
| And he was not announced that he was going to be a part of those meetings. | ||
| So actually, Trump secretly met with the same guy that all those other people met secretly with. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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And yeah, they did not allow press into the Oval Office. | |
| Bingo. | ||
| Bingo. | ||
| Russian press inside the Oval Office. | ||
| I legitimately... | ||
| I know that this is a little bit speculative, but I don't see any reason to think that the Oval Office isn't bugged now. | ||
| Like, I have no idea... | ||
| Like, why wouldn't they? | ||
| I mean, fake deference? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, if he finds a bug, which, goddammit, if he ever could... | ||
| Yeah, no way. | ||
| He could be fucking peeing into a microphone and he'd still be like, this is a funny plant. | ||
| Like, it's... | ||
| You would have to. | ||
| You would have to think that all of this stuff is being recorded so that future historians will be able to write on their stone tablets that our democracy ended because stupid people hate black people. | ||
| Yep, probably. | ||
| But the point I was trying to make is that in the same way that that is a bad look, you fire the guy who's investigating your ties to Russia and then secretly meet with the guy they're investigating shit about and the foreign minister, in the same way that's a bad look, Alex Jones having an interview with the guy who was under investigation about the firing of the guy doing the investigating, in the real world, that's a bad look. | ||
| On Infowars, it doesn't matter. | ||
| It's not a good one. | ||
| In the real world, that's fucked up. | ||
| There's no way. | ||
| There's no way that's okay. | ||
| Everything is just fucked up? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Roger Stone, you know, he's got his priorities straight. | ||
| I'll tell you that much. | ||
| Here's how he decides to open his interview. | ||
| Roger, let's go over from your sources. | ||
| Well, some interesting contretemps today, Alex. | ||
| Politico published a story which claimed that I had persuaded the president to fire James Comey. | ||
| CNN picked that story up from Politico. | ||
| I am not the source of that story, nor have I claimed anything of the kind, because as I have said on this show many times, no one talks Donald Trump into anything. | ||
| He's not some mannequin that you hand talking points to. | ||
| And I have always declined to discuss the content or frequency of my conversations with the president. | ||
| Sure, I know, but you have... | ||
| I mean, we talked about this for over an hour last night. | ||
| I get where you can go or you can't. | ||
| The point is, is I have my sources. | ||
| I called you. | ||
| I checked out what they told me. | ||
| You said that was pretty much dead on, but you didn't want to get into any conversations you've had. | ||
| But it is in the newspapers today that you are the source of the person that finally got the president to drop the hammer last week. | ||
| Now, obviously, you're not taking credit for that. | ||
| He is his own person. | ||
| But I guess you can't speak to those reports? | ||
| Well, specifically, I'm not the source of those reports, nor did I confirm them. | ||
| But Alex, I have spoken about this. | ||
| I have talked about it. | ||
| I've been calling for Mr. Comey's firing now for months. | ||
| And beyond that, the idea that I somehow persuaded the president is just not true. | ||
| So he's been calling for Comey's firing for months. | ||
| He has not. | ||
| He has. | ||
| Has he? | ||
| Yeah, but about as long as the investigation has been public. | ||
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| That argument does not work out well. | ||
| He has stepped it up quite intensely in tweets and stuff recently. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Calling for Comey to be fired. | ||
| He's beseeched the president through Twitter to fire Comey. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Maybe he didn't personally sit down with Trump and be like, dude. | ||
| You've got to do this. | ||
| Did they talk on the phone? | ||
| Here's what's fun about that. | ||
| So he brought up that Trump tweeted that that story was fake news. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Roger Stone brought that part of the tweet up. | ||
| He didn't bring up the last part of the tweet where Trump says, I haven't talked to Roger Stone in a long time. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because earlier in his comments, he said he talks to him a lot. | ||
| And so did Alex Jones. | ||
| So either... | ||
| One of these parties is lying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's probably Trump. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I could also see Stone lying about that. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| They're both liars. | ||
| They're both inveterate liars who are... | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| Roger Stone is fucking petty. | ||
| He is super petty. | ||
| He's blown up at so many people on Twitter. | ||
| He has a tattoo of Nixon on his back. | ||
| Of course he's petty. | ||
| He's full of rage, and I think if Donald Trump really was shutting him out, he'd act against him. | ||
| I don't think that he would still carry water for him if he wasn't still at least being strung along as being on the inside. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's my feeling on it. | ||
| I can see that. | ||
| So I think that Trump is lying in an attempt to sort of damage control shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because, I mean, even if you're an idiot president, you have to know that, like... | ||
| Talking to Roger Stone at this point is insane. | ||
| Well, especially when he is calling for Comey to be fired and you fire Comey. | ||
| You have to pretend, oh, that wasn't why I did it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it might not have been all of it. | ||
| It probably wasn't. | ||
| My best theory is that it was Sessions. | ||
| Sessions was actively involved in that because... | ||
| Because Sessions himself wanted to shut down the investigation. | ||
| Yes, because I believe from a lot of things that I've read, most of it's speculation, but some of the indications within James Clapper's testimony lead people to believe that one of the names specifically that was unmasked was Jeff Sessions. | ||
| It has to be. | ||
| Well, the reason... | ||
| Otherwise, why would he lie? | ||
| The reason that most people have given in terms of their analysis of Clapper's testimony is that he was asked, I can't remember who asked him, but they asked, the names that you've seen unmasked, were they Trump associates or Trump campaign members or members of the Congress? | ||
| And he said, well, both. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that's a fun little twist, because it could be two different people and it's both, or the only person who was both, Jeff Sessions. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, that's a good... | ||
| So it could be semantic games. | ||
| Well, I mean, frankly, at this fucking point, everybody might as well be under suspicion. | ||
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Sure. | |
| Everybody in the GOP might as well be, like, holding a fucking target on their back that says probably spoke to the Russians illegally. | ||
| But if you look at the people who are the main players, at least publicly... | ||
| You have people like Roger Stone, Paul Manafort, Carter Page, Mike Flynn. | ||
| None of them are in the Congress. | ||
| No. | ||
| Jeff Sessions is the only player who has actually been a Congressperson. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that theory is largely hinged on the idea that Clapper was playing semantic games. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which I kind of hope he was, because that's fun. | ||
| That is fun. | ||
| That is him kind of, if that's true, that's him kind of giving one of those like, hey, I can't say it, but you know. | ||
| You know how it is. | ||
| Well, it's the same thing with Sally Yates saying, like, I think it goes without saying you don't want your national security advisor to be compromised by Russia. | ||
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Like, that's a way of saying that without saying... | |
| We have to live in a world now where somebody out loud says that. | ||
| But I think that that's a way of... | ||
| It doesn't go without saying you have... | ||
| But I think she had to phrase it that way and frame it that way in order to not give up the game, as it were, or give away confidential information. | ||
| So you say it that way and you can say what I know and what I believe is that he was compromised, but I haven't breached any rules. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| So Roger Stone goes on in this next clip. | ||
| He wants to talk a little bit about how he's totally cool. | ||
| The president's made a bold and I think the correct decision. | ||
| Comey had no interest in the mega crimes by the Clintons. | ||
| The Clinton Foundation is not a charity. | ||
| It's a slush fund for grifters. | ||
| And as we both know, it was the vehicle for the facilitation of multi-million dollar bribes on matters not just uranium but across the board. | ||
| Your credibility is shot. | ||
| You brought up the uranium piece. | ||
| Whatever other things you're going to say, it's almost not even worth investigating what those things are. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Because if that's your first example, you haven't done your own research. | ||
| So I just, I don't care anymore. | ||
| I mean, he has done his own research, he just doesn't care if it's true or not. | ||
| Right, because it serves his... | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Decades-long anti-Clinton boner. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I mean, he was involved in, like, the Vince Foster shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, quite frankly. | ||
| His hatred of the Clintons goes back, like, 30 years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, and not just that. | ||
| It is still that... | ||
| Distract from me being under investigation. | ||
| What about-ism? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Hey, I didn't do anything that the Clintons didn't do. | ||
| Why are you picking on me? | ||
| It's because of my association with Trump. | ||
| And if he can pull that little narrative together, then the army of alt-right monstrous morons will fucking go along with it. | ||
| And they'll say he's unfairly being targeted, and that means that it is an illegitimate investigation. | ||
| As we'll see. | ||
| At least it is. | ||
| As we'll see as this goes on, I think that we're seeing indications that this is a last-ditch effort. | ||
| Because I think the facade is crumbling a little bit, and they're doing these things because they need to trick those people. | ||
| But he goes on to talk about the investigation a little bit, and how everybody... | ||
| No one's involved with Russia, please. | ||
| Yet Mr. Comey seemed to have no interest in those crimes, wasting his time investigating the non-existent Russian collusion. | ||
| Again. | ||
| There is no evidence whatsoever that would hold up in a court of law of any collusion between the Russian and officials in the Trump campaign. | ||
| Well, I mean, that's fair in as much as there's not public... | ||
| There's no public information that would hold up in a court of law. | ||
| But... | ||
| I mean, even at this point, it's almost like a murder trial. | ||
| Once the... | ||
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What is it? | |
| What's the name of it? | ||
| Circumstantial. | ||
| Once the circumstantial evidence is so overwhelming, it's hard to really care about physical evidence. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you can get convicted for things without a body. | ||
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| It's possible. | ||
| And there are plenty. | ||
| Look at all the Russian ambassadors who have been murdered. | ||
| No, those are bodies without punishment. | ||
| That's the reverse. | ||
| But if you just keep repeating that this is nothing, it's all lies, it's all fake. | ||
| Non-existent story. | ||
| It's time for us to move on. | ||
| Sure, Trump fired Comey just as he asked for more funding, but that's only because that money was going to be wasted on something we all know is nothing. | ||
| We don't need to investigate it. | ||
| If this narrative had any legs, if the narrative that Alex and Roger are spinning had any legs, Instead of pretending that firing Comey had something to do with how he handled the Clinton and Huma Abedin email situation, they would have come out and said, this is bullshit. | ||
| We're firing him because he wants more money for a fake investigation. | ||
| It would have been so easy to say that. | ||
| They could have. | ||
| It would have been so easy. | ||
| They could have. | ||
| It would have been awesome. | ||
| And not only that, that would have been a great talking point for your Congress lackeys. | ||
| Because then they could have been like, yeah, of course we support it. | ||
| We're Republicans. | ||
| We're trying to cut down on fat on the budget. | ||
| We're trying to do all this stuff. | ||
| It's overbone. | ||
| He's wasting money. | ||
| It's bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's such an easy narrative and they're too dumb to even get that far. | ||
| Well, because that would be dumb too because then you're admitting that an investigation into yourself is the primary reason you're shutting it down. | ||
| You have to lie. | ||
| In some ways, because he didn't give a fuck about what Comey did with those emails. | ||
| He didn't care at all. | ||
| Except that they didn't prosecute unfairly. | ||
| Even in his fucking firing letter, he was like, I appreciate that three times you said the investigation into me wasn't important. | ||
| That's like fucking... | ||
| Peter stuff. | ||
| Like, you deny me three times before the cock crows. | ||
| But it's the reverse. | ||
| You've denied an investigation into me three times, and now you must hang yourself upside down on a cross. | ||
| So, I like that we know more scripture than Alex Jones, the devout Christian. | ||
| So, this next clip... | ||
| He knows 12-dimensional scripture. | ||
| This next clip, we get back to, like, Comey's real crimes, again, which are that he's weird. | ||
| They're going to talk... | ||
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That is a crime! | |
| They're going to talk a little bit more about how he just was too fucking weird, man. | ||
| And then I called you last night and you said, well, you've talked to some of your sources and that seemed to be right on target. | ||
| It was that Comey was violating the chain of command, was seen as reckless, weird, constantly changing positions, and that he was just seen as overall kind of soft, and that that's why the... | ||
| Attorney General recommended he be removed. | ||
| My sources said the exact same thing that your sources said. | ||
| That's 100% accurate. | ||
| I'm flabbergasted. | ||
| He seemed to be empire building. | ||
| He didn't seem to be responsive to either the Congress or the executive branch. | ||
| He seemed to believe he was a power unto himself with his own agenda. | ||
| Do you mean an independent power? | ||
| Only days ago saying, well, you're stuck with me for six years. | ||
| Well, not so bad. | ||
| And by the way, you notice that... | ||
| He said he thought it was a joke when he first heard the news yesterday. | ||
| Totally disconnected from reality. | ||
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No! | |
| Two things. | ||
| The reason he thought it was a prank is because he found out from the television. | ||
| And that's a fucked up way to get fired when you're the FBI director. | ||
| Second thing. | ||
| Yeah, it's fine if you're an NFL coach. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Who gives a shit? | ||
| The second thing is exactly what you were saying, is that... | ||
| There's a reason that they appoint FBI directors for 10-year terms. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's because it's supposed to be a completely non-political position. | ||
| He is four years into his term. | ||
| Him saying, I'm going to be around for another six years, that is how it should have been. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's really fucked up. | ||
| It's really fucked up. | ||
| I'm never going to go to bat for the FBI because they murdered Fred Hampton. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Let's never forget that the FBI is an evil organization that has fucked up normal people, has done everything it can to ruin any... | ||
| They are an arm of the regressive GOP politics. | ||
| Largely. | ||
| That has been true for most of American history. | ||
| And that's painting with too broad a brush? | ||
| That's not all of it? | ||
| No, it's not all of it. | ||
| But, I mean, at the very least, Hoover was... | ||
| An out-and-out, GOP hard-on fuckface. | ||
| And you're nailing why a lot of people who don't believe any of this Russia stuff, some of them are pretty reasonable people. | ||
| And their distrust comes from, why would I ever believe anything intelligence agencies say? | ||
| They all lie. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's a position I can kind of understand. | ||
| If you're going back to the FBI and the CIA's past, they're fraught with trouble. | ||
| You know. | ||
| Overthrowing regimes and creating banana republics. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They have done such a great job of that. | ||
| They did it to us. | ||
| That's how good we are at making banana republics. | ||
| Possibly by accident. | ||
| Maybe not. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Maybe the globalists are actually the intelligence agents. | ||
| I mean, it's hard to imagine that the deep state doesn't exist, right? | ||
| Not in the way that I think paranoid people believe. | ||
| But there's an underground deep state. | ||
| I think it's hard to imagine that there isn't something there. | ||
| Is this podcast going to turn into you and me turning into the lone gunman? | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| I don't know, but there is. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I really don't think so. | ||
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I wouldn't have thought so six fucking months ago. | |
| Now I don't know. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| Every single thing I thought I knew about American politics, civics, the way our constitution works, the way our rule of law works, the separation of powers, all of this stuff is gone. | ||
| It's all consolidated. | ||
| The reason that I'm against this idea that you're saying about this underground deep state and what have you is that to me that's as easy an excuse as globalists. | ||
| As the globalists, right. | ||
| It is just like, oh yeah, throw everything in that box. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no. | ||
| I'm not saying that they're... | ||
| Responsible for all of this stuff. | ||
| But they would be if they were a secret underground cabal. | ||
| But again, I'll never believe that people are that competent. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Especially people that... | ||
| Just all the people we have in government now are some of the most incompetent people. | ||
| And it's all across the board. | ||
| How is it that the Democratic Party could not get themselves elected? | ||
| Pure incompetence. | ||
| It has to be. | ||
| If you read the Hillary book, the new one out, I can't remember the name of it, but it is basically just one long treatise of interviews from the Hillary Clinton campaign going over how incompetent it was at every step of the way. | ||
| Sure, but I think that, well, look. | ||
| Shattered. | ||
| Shattered, I believe, is the name of the book. | ||
| Obviously. | ||
| They were dumb to think, we've got this. | ||
| But if I were her... | ||
| I would, too. | ||
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| Well, you'd have to. | ||
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| You'd have to be like, oh, come on now. | ||
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| This is ridiculous. | ||
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| So she didn't go as hard in the paint as she needed to, but then there were things that went against her. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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| But there were things that went against her, too, that were outside of her control, such as Comey's letter, such as Alex Jones. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know? | ||
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| But if Macron can beat the fascist by 20 points... | ||
| You would hope that... | ||
| He probably couldn't have if it wasn't. | ||
| If it weren't for Trump and Brexit? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's probably true. | ||
| The only reason... | ||
| I think France was saved by our fall to some extent. | ||
| But anyway, we're spinning our gears here. | ||
| Which is ironic. | ||
| Still in the middle of... | ||
| Considering they will be destroyed by our fall as well. | ||
| Yeah, everyone will be. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| There's going to be a big tidal wave. | ||
| But this next clip, I've just given a poetic title to this one. | ||
| This one is called The Stone Doth Protest Too Much. | ||
| This had nothing to do with heading off a Russian investigation. | ||
| Senators Warner, Feinstein, Franken, Congressman Schiff, Spire, Himes, they have nothing, Alex. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| They're holding it in their hands. | ||
| They got nothing. | ||
| It's bogus, and they're about to be humiliated if they continue down this path. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| You know? | ||
| There's nothing. | ||
| It's bogus. | ||
| They've got it in their hands. | ||
| There's nothing. | ||
| They can't fill their hands with any evidence. | ||
| They can't fill their hands with guns. | ||
| There's nothing there. | ||
| There's nothing there. | ||
| They're going to be humiliated if they just keep this going. | ||
| What they should do is just stop. | ||
| That's basically what he's getting at. | ||
| Otherwise you'll be in trouble. | ||
| You don't want to get in trouble. | ||
| It's a veiled threat in some ways. | ||
| You know, like, you've got nothing. | ||
| Just fucking give it up. | ||
| It's like, you know what it is? | ||
| It's a poker bluff. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's exactly what it is. | ||
| Yeah, and that is the kind of action that you take when your hand is shit. | ||
| When you know, oh fuck, I have been communicating with regular intelligence. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| They have been watching me. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Just give it up. | ||
| Because in the same way that Alex Jones, whenever one of his ex-employees comes out and says some shit about him anonymously, he knows that they can't publicly say anything about it because of confidentiality agreements. | ||
| Or in the same way that Roger Stone can lie about being poisoned by polonium and his doctors can't correct it. | ||
| The doctors can't correct it. | ||
| I forgot about how he lied about being poisoned by polonium. | ||
| You can make those lies in the same way that he can say they don't have any evidence because they legally can't present that evidence to the public. | ||
| So you can trick people until that evidence is declassified. | ||
| Well, and that's another reason why I can see Stone lying about... | ||
| Lying about Trump talking to him. | ||
| Because it wouldn't matter either way. | ||
| Trump has to deny it. | ||
| So you can say he's talking to you however much you want. | ||
| Or if he is or he isn't, he still has to say the same thing. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because if you are talking to Trump and you're Roger Stone and Trump says, Yeah, I talk to my buddy, Roger Stone, all the time. | ||
| That is basically saying I'm complicit in whatever it is Roger Stone is doing. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| So you have to say no. | ||
| Is it, though? | ||
| How could you talk to Roger Stone? | ||
| After he fired Flynn, he was talking about how he's a good man. | ||
| He's a great man. | ||
| Didn't do anything wrong. | ||
| Sad to see him go, but he accidentally lied to the VP. | ||
| Gotta let him go. | ||
| He's a good man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He said that after. | ||
| He lied to the VP. | ||
| Right. | ||
| About all the stuff that they're investigating him for. | ||
| He might not have. | ||
| Wait, he might not have lied to the VP? | ||
| Pence might have lied. | ||
| Oh, Pence is absolutely lying. | ||
| Or it could be a combo platter. | ||
| It could be everyone's lying. | ||
| Yeah, it's... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Be that as it may. | ||
| This is murder on the Orient Express. | ||
| Fucking everybody is doing it. | ||
| We're getting down to some minutiae here. | ||
| Maybe we should take a step back, because I think that Alex... | ||
| Are we getting too deep into the weeds? | ||
| We might be, and Alex would like us to look at the big picture, and I think he is the perfect guide to take us there. | ||
| All right, Roger, in the five minutes we've got left here, I want to... | ||
| Look at the big picture. | ||
| I mean, clearly the Russia thing is completely made up. | ||
| The Democrats and a lot of the other Republican establishment have been deeply involved with lots of multinational companies and foreign governments. | ||
| With Trump, it's surprising how little Russian connections there are, knowing he's an international business magnate and real estate mogul. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Untrue to a staggering degree. | ||
| The fact that he's just being so blasé about what is true. | ||
| The Democrats and the Republicans have been involved with so many outside business ventures. | ||
| That's bad on its own! | ||
| If everything else was normal, that would be something that we should fucking deal with! | ||
| I am slightly blasé on that, quite frankly. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Some of that is politics. | ||
| But, being involved with Russian mobsters and getting tons of money from weird, shady... | ||
| Real estate deals. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| With people with checkered Russian pests. | ||
| Like, that's not nothing. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| The idea that most of his money is lent to him by a Russia-connected bank. | ||
| You know, like how Donald Trump's sons told us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So in another way, yes. | ||
| They can't get loans from American banks. | ||
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No. | |
| And Eric Trump has said on the record, he's quoted by somebody else, but spiritually it matches up with, A lot of the investigations that have been done into Trump's finances, without the help of his tax returns, that a lot of their lending comes from Russian sources. | ||
| So the idea that he doesn't have Russian connections, even if it isn't Putin, even if it isn't political, it's bullshit. | ||
| It's absolute bullshit. | ||
| Also, the main reason I stopped this clip is because I wanted to warn you that it's going to get really fucked up. | ||
| I wanted to give you a heads up that it's time to take a seat. | ||
| Mic up, mic down. | ||
| In the middle. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Have a sip of wine and... | ||
| Oh, if I spit take, I'm going to break you. | ||
| I don't think you will. | ||
| This is going to get really fucked up, and then towards the end, Alex cannot let Roger talk, and it's delightful. | ||
| That said, the Democrats are never going to get off the offense. | ||
| They're the ones through their surrogates saying, kill the president, kill us, overthrow everyone. | ||
| They're at war with us. | ||
| They're funding the cop-killing groups. | ||
| They're funding all the social distortion garbage. | ||
| They're a clear and present danger. | ||
| Running around inside our country. | ||
| And so I'm not calling for authoritarianism. | ||
| They're an authoritarian threat. | ||
| And so we need the Attorney General to go after the Clintons, to go after Obama, to go after them all. | ||
| They want a war. | ||
| They need to get one. | ||
| I know in my gut, but also historically. | ||
| If he doesn't go all out constitutionally with the right thing to do and get really aggressive politically. | ||
| Is anything even real anymore? | ||
| Is anything even real? | ||
| I told you to have a sip of wine. | ||
| I don't even know my fucking name. | ||
| What's happening right now? | ||
| Greg, I told you to have a sip of wine. | ||
| Yeah, like, that's crazy. | ||
| This clip isn't done. | ||
| This isn't nearly done. | ||
| Nothing means anything. | ||
| Words don't mean anything anymore. | ||
| You can just fucking say whatever you want. | ||
| They're doing what we're doing. | ||
| We have to do what they're doing. | ||
| We need to go on the offense. | ||
| It's not authoritarianism, but we need to use authoritarianism against them. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| It's insane, the disconnect and the inability to see what he's saying. | ||
| Like, the lack... | ||
| Of self-reflection, in his words, are shocking. | ||
| It's staggering. | ||
| Well, again, I think it's because he's super hungover. | ||
| And Stone is right there, right? | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Just going along with all of this shit. | ||
| He's about to sign off on it. | ||
| Oh, great. | ||
| Here comes. | ||
| Fucking great. | ||
| Getting them back on their heels. | ||
| They're not going to stop. | ||
| They're going to make stuff up. | ||
| They're going to dig stuff up. | ||
| They're going to twist it. | ||
| And they're going to try to remove the president. | ||
| Now, am I wrong? | ||
| Can he just let them sit there and do this forever? | ||
| Or should he? | ||
| I think you're absolutely right. | ||
| I think you're 100% right. | ||
| Look, we saw how the Democrats politicized Watergate, and they used it to undo one of the greatest political landslides in American history. | ||
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What the shit? | |
| What? | ||
| He's back to... | ||
| Defending Watergate now? | ||
| He's retconning Watergate. | ||
| Yeah, no, it was the Dems. | ||
| It was the Dems. | ||
| It was the Republicans. | ||
| No, it was the Dems. | ||
| The Republicans turned on Nixon. | ||
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No! | |
| Because they knew that they were going to get voted out. | ||
| They cannot concede. | ||
| The Democrats were always against Nixon, but the Republicans were obstructionist about impeachment until midterms started to come up, and that's when they turned on him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which might... | ||
| Yeah, I don't think they care at this point. | ||
| No, probably not. | ||
| They wouldn't be behaving the way they are. | ||
| They can't possibly believe that they're not. | ||
| So now here's the other hope there, though, is just like these fucks talking right now, pretending all of this shit was true, and just rewriting history, rewriting the present in order to fit their narrative, it's entirely possible that these... | ||
| True believers in Congress think their constituents all agree with them. | ||
| And so they are immune to being voted out there. | ||
| They can't possibly accept that the people who have, that there are people. | ||
| Who have voted Republican in the past who will turn against them now. | ||
| There's a lot of stuff. | ||
| Now, whether or not they're wrong is a whole different world. | ||
| Well, there's a lot of places that vote so solidly Republican that it would be incredibly difficult to get somebody out. | ||
| But even if they did, then you'd have to primary them because it would be another Republican trying to take their seat as an incumbent. | ||
| And that's such a hassle that most people wouldn't do it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But, like, yeah, it baffles me. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| The fact that they're sitting here and... | ||
| Let me be clear. | ||
| The fact that I forgot that part of this clip was that Roger Stone tries to rewrite Watergate crazy... | ||
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That's fucking bananas! | |
| The rest of this is even crazier. | ||
| The clip's not done. | ||
| It's crazier than... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There's two minutes of this clip left. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Win at the ballot box. | ||
| So they removed Nixon through this extrajudicial process. | ||
| It's the same thing here. | ||
| It's not! | ||
| It's just regular judicial! | ||
| It's the definition of judicial! | ||
| Mr. Podesta, his brother, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Chelsea Clinton, they should be compelled to testify about their gas deal, their banking deal, their uranium deal. | ||
| Uranium again. | ||
| You know, they're the people who have been in bed with Putin. | ||
| It is not. | ||
| It's not a conjecture. | ||
| It's not a conspiracy theory. | ||
| These are cold, hard facts. | ||
| Cut and dry. | ||
| And it's time for the Senate and House Republicans to show a little backbone. | ||
| Yeah, it's time to... | ||
| Get her out of the White House. | ||
| We get a real president trying to revert power back to the country. | ||
| Doesn't mean you agree with every policy, but he really is being the president right now. | ||
| All these special interests are pissed. | ||
| They've involved themselves in corporate international espionage, transferring power to this crony capitalist offshore combine, and they want to go on the offense and call for our deaths and all this other crap. | ||
| It's time to go on the offense against these people. | ||
| You put your finger on it. | ||
| It's time for Attorney General Sessions to convene a grand jury and send for Hillary. | ||
| I'm sure he has many, many, many questions for her. | ||
|
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That's right, because they're not stopping. | |
| I'm sorry, go ahead. | ||
| They're coming after America with everything they've got trying to destroy us, and they're the criminals, then let's let them have it. | ||
| Sorry, go ahead. | ||
| We have nothing to lose but running over these people. | ||
| I could not agree more. | ||
| It's time for the Republican Party to take the establishment Republican Party to show some backbone. | ||
| I swear to God, I didn't edit that at all. | ||
| Twice, within a minute, he interrupts him, says, sorry, go ahead, and then immediately starts ranting. | ||
| That is a man. | ||
| Who is, like, insane. | ||
| He's a lunatic. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's rude to his friends. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, I mean, within the context of his show. | ||
| So if you can say he and Roger Stone had an hour conversation the night before. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I can't believe that he really talks to Roger the same way off air. | ||
| Probably not. | ||
| There's a performative aspect, probably. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| You can justify... | ||
| We talk to each other about the same off-air as on-air. | ||
| Yeah, pretty much. | ||
| Yeah, just no mics. | ||
| Maybe more yelling. | ||
| Yeah, usually you join in the fun. | ||
| No, then I imagine that on-air, it's part of the dynamic of the show. | ||
| Yeah, that's possible. | ||
| When Alex is ratcheting it up... | ||
| Because, you know, it doesn't matter. | ||
| It is still a performance. | ||
| Even so, I, having listened for the last five months straight, and I'm dipping back into the archives, I have a thorough investigation I'm engaged in right now that I can't... | ||
| Look, I can't... | ||
| You can't reveal it yet? | ||
| I can't reveal it yet, but I'm on to something really big. | ||
|
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All right. | |
| But... | ||
| Do not! | ||
| Do not ask Trump for more resources. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| I swear to God, he's gonna fire you. | ||
| Next day, I'm fired from this podcast. | ||
| My cat takes over. | ||
| Who'd I get to replace you? | ||
| Rudy Giuliani. | ||
| So, uh, like, even having listened to hours and hours and hours, like, you guys listening have no fucking idea how much I've listened to this dumbass man talk. | ||
| I've never heard him interrupt like that. | ||
| Like, he's been ruder. | ||
| But the comedy of... | ||
| Sorry, go ahead. | ||
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We have nothing to lose but running over them! | |
| I don't understand what that means, Alex. | ||
| First of all, why are you interrupting somebody to get that out? | ||
| I don't know, he just remembered the phrase, I guess. | ||
| So I cut out a ton of the rest of Roger Stone's interview because, I mean, it's all more or less the same. | ||
| There's not a ton more... | ||
| I can't remember if he's still on this next clip or if he's already left, but what happens after Roger Stone leaves is... | ||
| Remember that notorious March 30th episode we did? | ||
| Roger Stone was around for a little while, then Alex drunkenly deteriorated into a man talking about selling his car and the ways you learn. | ||
| Yes, the most beautiful episode. | ||
| Go back and listen to March 30th one more time. | ||
| Just near the end where Alex gets super introspective. | ||
| And refuses to look at Rob Doe. | ||
| Yeah, so weird. | ||
| There's a little bit of that energy here. | ||
| Roger Stone ends up leaving and things go a little weird. | ||
| They go a little bit weird. | ||
| We'll get to it. | ||
| But this next clip, he just expresses how glad he is that Comey's gone and talks more about Hillary's crimes. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us. | ||
| I think I should just open the phones up and play some clips of what's been unfolding. | ||
| But this really makes me feel good about President Trump in that he has fired Comey. | ||
| Comey that stood there while Loretta Lynch met on airplanes with Bill Clinton breaking the law while he was under criminal investigation. | ||
| Lynch, who sat there with all the WikiLeaks info coming out, how they were coordinating with the White House on the cover-up crimes. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| The uranium deals to Russia, the sell-out of our technology to China. | ||
| I mean, the Clintons have been protected by the FBI for decades from the highest levels committing their crimes. | ||
| And then all the WikiLeaks pedophile information. | ||
| The police department wanted to release, but the FBI basically shut down. | ||
| So you can see there that his one example is that Loretta Lynch was on a plane with Bill Clinton. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's sort of what he keeps going back to, which means he doesn't really know all that much. | ||
| All you need. | ||
| The uranium deal brought up again, and then he says that people were complicit in selling our technology to China. | ||
| And it's actually kind of interesting, because when I was researching the uranium deal, basically what it boils down to is that Hillary Clinton, because she was Secretary of State... | ||
| All of the heads of departments, like all of the secretaries, essentially, in the cabinet, are part of a nine-member organization called the Council on Foreign Investment in the United States. | ||
| And any time a foreign company tries to buy something that may or may not be relevant to our national security, the deal gets reviewed by the CFIUS. | ||
| I believe that's how you would say that. | ||
| I don't know how to pronounce a C and an F right at the beginning of a word. | ||
| CFIUS? | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| That's actually a really good idea. | ||
| This uranium company was being bought out by a Russian company. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It was something that got reviewed by the CFIUS. | ||
| Because it is in our... | ||
| And Hillary Clinton, as one of the members of this nine-member committee, could not have any personal involvement in the outcome of the decision. | ||
| She couldn't have swayed that decision. | ||
| And the outcome of the CFIUS is that they make a recommendation and then the president can let the deal go through or... | ||
| He can put the kibosh on the deal. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| They don't choose what happens. | ||
| So even if she had said, don't let this go through, it's not her choice to make. | ||
| So the idea that she sold this uranium is, number one, factually inaccurate and then logistically inaccurate. | ||
| But while I was doing the research into that uranium deal, one of the interesting things that I found out was that in 2016, Barack Obama did stop a company from being bought because he felt it was relevant to our national interests. | ||
| Really? | ||
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And it had to do with a recommendation that the CFIUS had made. | |
| And it was involving a Chinese company from buying a Dutch company that produced microchips out of the country. | ||
| Really? | ||
| So Alex Jones, saying that... | ||
| The liberals and the Democrats are way too interested in letting China have all our technology. | ||
| There's a concrete example from a year ago of Barack Obama stepping in and being like, well, we've got to be careful about the Chinese consolidation of technology. | ||
| So literally, not literally meaning figuratively, literally the liberals he is decrying for doing a thing. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Did the exact opposite thing. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Which he ostensibly wants. | ||
| There's an article in the New York Times from February 4th, 2016 that I've linked up in that article about the uranium deal. | ||
| You can find all the resources there. | ||
| It's fully documented. | ||
| It's an absolutely concrete example against what Alex is talking about. | ||
| It's in the white papers. | ||
| It's in their own white papers. | ||
| Secondarily, all of that stuff that he's saying about the WikiLeaks means he's never read it. | ||
| Because those things aren't in there. | ||
| Why does he keep... | ||
| If he brings up the pedophilia thing again, he is referencing Pizzagate, right? | ||
| He has to be. | ||
| If he's talking about the WikiLeaks aspect of it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There's no other explanation. | ||
| Well, you could be talking about, like, alright, we weren't talking about Comet Ping Pong, but what we were talking about... | ||
| Like, Alex brings this up all the time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The idea that Barack Obama got succulent hot dogs. | ||
| You're adding adjectives in, and you're misrepresenting... | ||
| Right. | ||
| That entire description, again, I don't think Hillary is the best person in the world. | ||
| She's still a politician. | ||
| She's complicit in some shit. | ||
| But at the same time, all of the examples he gives are un-nuanced and either lies or just things he doesn't actually understand. | ||
| It's embarrassing. | ||
| It's absolutely embarrassing. | ||
| It would be if anybody but us was... | ||
| Capable of giving a shit? | ||
| Yeah, I guess so. | ||
| Everyone who cares has already written off Alex and assumes he's lying. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Whereas we engage and actually prove he's lying and it doesn't matter. | ||
| But thank you to everyone who actually enjoys the show. | ||
| I think it does matter. | ||
| Once we get enough listeners, say... | ||
| 45 million listeners a week. | ||
| That's coming. | ||
| That's right around the corner. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| With all the new policy wonks we keep getting, I imagine 45 million people are about to be on board. | ||
| Even though Google's trying to delist us. | ||
| They are! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You search Knowledge Fight, and I swear, we're like... | ||
| First, I think. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| For now. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Who knows? | ||
| Until we get Chobani money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hamdi, hit us up. | ||
| We like you. | ||
| We'll pimp yogurt. | ||
| Yeah, fuck yeah! | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| We'll do an ad. | ||
| So this next clip... | ||
| Chobana yogurt. | ||
| It's thicker than regular yogurt. | ||
| It's thicker than the lies coming out of Alex Jones' mouth. | ||
| So this next clip... | ||
| The yogurt of policy walks. | ||
| This next clip I've done some research into, and it's going to be interesting when we come out the other side of it. | ||
| Donald Trump is restoring our military, restoring our sovereignty, restoring our economy, restoring our pride. | ||
| If Russia was our enemy... | ||
| And if Russia was controlling President Trump, they would not be doing any of this. | ||
| The first thing a Russian compromised operative would do would keep coal banned. | ||
| We have enough coal for over a thousand years with clean burning systems in the United States, conservatively. | ||
| There's more coal than natural gas, oil, you name it, can buy. | ||
| That can't be true. | ||
| And when Trump said all that coal is back on the table, it made gas prices in Russia plunge, and that's Russia's main export. | ||
| That's actually not a bad argument. | ||
| But see, that's if you're actually geopolitically informed. | ||
| It wasn't to hurt Russia, it's to help the United States. | ||
| Sorry! | ||
| So, here's why it is a terrible argument. | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| So, I don't know... | ||
| I mean, I just mean logically. | ||
| From the logical sense... | ||
| Why would you support a thing that goes against Rush's thing? | ||
| If the premises were true, the argument would be good. | ||
| So are either premises true? | ||
| Well, before we get to them, I want to say that I don't really know exactly how much coal there is or natural gas. | ||
| Most of the numbers that you can find are speculative. | ||
| There are a bunch of reserves and there's stuff we know about, but there's unknown unknowns, as it were. | ||
| Ores we might find later. | ||
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Right. | |
| And stuff like that. | ||
| So we don't know. | ||
| There could be deep earth coal crystals. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So what we do know is that clean coal is bullshit. | ||
| Absolute, utter nonsense. | ||
| And we've said that a bunch on the show, and I realize I'm getting a little self-conscious, so it's time to fully lay that out. | ||
| Clean coal, as Alex sort of presents it... | ||
| What is it with your obsession with documenting facts? | ||
| So Alex presents it as another kind of coal, which is... | ||
| Absurd. | ||
| It's the same coal. | ||
| The only way that you can... | ||
| Coal's coal! | ||
| Right. | ||
| But they rationalize that clean coal is coal that's presented differently and you do different things with it and that makes it clean. | ||
| The biggest version of this and the only one that's really relevant to any national conversation is the idea of carbon capture technology. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
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You're aware of this, but for those of you who aren't, it's a technology that's designed to collect and dispose of coal plants'carbon dioxide emissions before they escape into the And they fuck us up. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| No. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| A similar, heavily subsidized project in Saskatchewan has demonstrated that outfitting the world's power stations with the technology could cost upwards of $17 trillion. | ||
| So basically, some of the technology does exist, and it has worked somewhat. | ||
| It doesn't work all that well yet, but it may in the future. | ||
| It may eventually. | ||
| When it's too late! | ||
| Right. | ||
| But at the same time, that $17 trillion number of outfitting all of our coal-burning plants with that is substantially higher than all sorts of renewable resources that we can use. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's why it's a stupid reason to go down the coal path. | ||
| Well, we've got to save like 50 coal miners' jobs. | ||
| Well, that's the other thing. | ||
| They're not coming back. | ||
| No, they're coming back! | ||
| Coal! | ||
| Clean coal! | ||
| If you look at it, the number of jobs that were lost because of the coal industry going down, it's not nearly as many jobs as just because of automation. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's just a reality that's going to be on the table whether we use coal or not. | ||
| God, how is it? | ||
| Can you imagine? | ||
| And if you look at the number of, like, tourism and retail-related jobs that have been lost since Trump got in office compared to the hypothetical gains in the coal industry, it's... | ||
| Coal is nothing. | ||
| We're bleeding retail and tourism jobs. | ||
| Because people don't want to fucking come here. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Hell if I do. | ||
| No, absolutely. | ||
| So you remember when people used to say, well, I mean, it's not working in a coal mine. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Because working in a coal mine was bad. | ||
| Yeah, because you could die if you didn't see the canary die. | ||
| A lot of people die working in coal mines, right? | ||
| So imagine if they just stopped subsidizing those coal mining jobs and started subsidizing renewable energy jobs. | ||
| Those people who were working in coal mines could probably work in a... | ||
| Solar farms? | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Where you wouldn't be murdered by a fucking mine! | ||
| Now, there's a lot of issues in terms of wind turbines and stuff like that. | ||
| They do end up killing a lot of birds. | ||
| They're not ideal. | ||
| Yeah, the canary in the wind farm probably isn't going to go as well. | ||
| Comey getting fired is the canary in the wind farm. | ||
| That's not bad. | ||
| That's not bad. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| So let's get back to the argument that he's making. | ||
| He's making the argument that as soon as Trump said coal is back on the table, Russian gas prices tanked. | ||
| Did that happen? | ||
| Well, I'm looking at an official graph of the price in rubles of gasoline per liter in Russia. | ||
| And on January 30th, it was at 38.4 rubles per liter. | ||
| 38.4. | ||
| That's right around when Trump was inaugurated. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Would you like to know what it was on the 8th of May 2017? | ||
| I sure would. | ||
| 39.29. | ||
| Oh, it dropped like a milestone. | ||
| Nope, it went up. | ||
| It went up? | ||
| I don't know how rubles work. | ||
| I feel like it's like golf, where the more rubles you have, the less money you have. | ||
| It has never gone down since Trump took office. | ||
| The price of gas has just consistently gone up. | ||
| Is nothing true? | ||
| No, nothing is true. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| The thing that's kind of interesting is that the price of gas is trending or has trended downward since, you know, give or take 2014 or so. | ||
| Well, that's because OPEC is limiting, or I suppose it's going down and then OPEC is limiting their production in order to artificially keep it up. | ||
| Possibly. | ||
| Creating scarcity for us. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I mean, just globally, it's gone down since mid-2014 or so. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because we're all going to die. | ||
| The price of Russian gas has gone up. | ||
| Nonsense. | ||
| Nonsense. | ||
| Just patently nonsense. | ||
| So he just... | ||
| He just made that up whole cloth because it sounded reasonable. | ||
| It sounds super reasonable. | ||
| In the same way that you said it's a good argument. | ||
| I mean, it is a good argument, if true. | ||
| If you don't look for numbers, it is great. | ||
| It's fantastic. | ||
| That's a solid argument. | ||
| I mean, the fact that all the other good stuff that he's done for Russia is still there kind of means that maybe they, even if it was true, maybe they'd be willing to take that trade-off of... | ||
| Yeah, we'll give you some coal jobs in order for us to have rampant control of your government. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| It's possible. | ||
| I would take that trade-off if I was Putin. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So I told you that without Roger Stone in tow, things kind of spiraled a little bit. | ||
| I mean, we saw just there in the last two clips he's made arguments that aren't based on any reality. | ||
| They feel good to him. | ||
| He's got to feel good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because this should be the day of celebration for him. | ||
| This guy has gone down. | ||
| Who was the bane of his existence. | ||
| He was the FBI director who was a compromised globalist. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like, this should be big, but he can't. | ||
| He's still got to hit his greatest hits of complete lie narratives, and it gets so weird. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
| Listen to this. | ||
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Okay. | |
| This is fucked up. | ||
| I'm going to. | ||
| At this point, I really don't have much of a choice. | ||
| I have seen people go from being totally enthusiastic about Trump to by about 100 days in. | ||
| We're now 111 days in. | ||
| Really being disillusioned with President Trump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One bellwether example of that is that we were selling probably 500 Trump Pence 2020 shirts a day until about day 70 when Trump started to go sideways with that bad health care bill. | ||
| So his bellwether is shirt sales. | ||
| That's not... | ||
| That's not a terrible bellwether, to be honest. | ||
| No, but... | ||
| It's actually a really good bellwether for whether or not his listeners are sticking on board with the Trump train. | ||
| Alright, and something that's interesting is if you go to Infowarsstore.com, Trump Pence 2020 shirts retail for $20, $19.95, are on sale for $4.95. | ||
| That $4.95? | ||
| And have been pretty consistently. | ||
| That cannot be... | ||
| Covering costs. | ||
| So now it's... | ||
| That's them trying to get rid of a shit ton of shirts. | ||
| Maybe because the bellwether has come. | ||
| That's the comedian who still carries around 200 shirts that say the dumbest thing you can think of. | ||
| Some punchline from his act from 10 years ago. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So, like, the idea that he sells... | ||
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Fuck, I'm gonna be doing this joke until I sell all these goddamn shirts. | |
| The idea that he sells 500 shirts a day, or whatever, is pretty crazy, like, in terms of quantity. | ||
| And if he was selling them for retail... | ||
| That'd be a lot of money. | ||
| What, 500 shirts a day? | ||
| 20 bucks a pop? | ||
| That's 10 grand. | ||
| Yeah, but if you're selling them for five, that's two and a half grand. | ||
| A lot less than 10 grand. | ||
| A lot less. | ||
| At the very least, it cuts into your profit margin. | ||
| For the amount of work you probably have to do to pimp that product. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, $2,500 a day, if we were getting it, great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But if we had to have a shipping department and make up these shirts, we'd be taking a bath. | ||
| Yeah, that's less great. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I mean, for $2,500 a day, I feel like I would have no problem if it was you and me recording this show for three hours every day and then the rest of the day just fucking folding shirts and putting it into boxes. | ||
| Listen, I'm not against it. | ||
| If that's our life, so be it. | ||
| We're also selling Trump pants shirts for $4.93. | ||
| Undercut him by two cents. | ||
| No, we should buy them all up and sell them for $10. | ||
| Just sign Knowledge Fight at the bottom. | ||
| Scalping his shit? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Listen, if we ever do get to a point where we can make this a job, I will buy some of his supplements and do a Super Size Me thing with him. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| I'll go to a doctor and use myself as a guinea pig taking super male vitality. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| All that shit. | ||
| I'll do that. | ||
| I don't know if I can handle you with much more hair. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| If that is a function of the product, I'm fucked. | ||
| Oh, it has to be Robin Williams. | ||
| It has to be. | ||
| I'm going to turn into Cousin It. | ||
| So, the shirts, my man, are a symbol of disillusionment. | ||
| $4.95 for a shirt. | ||
| So now he's down to, like, when things are bad, you know, he's selling much less than that. | ||
| Oh, that's too bad. | ||
| That's an interesting thought. | ||
| I think he's right, though. | ||
| That is a really good bellwether. | ||
| Well... | ||
| Because if people are still buying super male vitality, that means they still buy into him. | ||
| If they aren't buying those shirts, maybe they're still on the Trump bandwagon, but they do not want to be advertising that. | ||
| That's a fair point. | ||
| That is a fair point. | ||
| Even though the Trump-Pence 20... | ||
| Yeah, you know what? | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Because I was going to make the argument that Trump-Pence 2020 shirts have their own life. | ||
| They don't really. | ||
| No. | ||
| Hillary for prison shirts do have their own life. | ||
| They have their own thing. | ||
| Because they just can't fucking let that go. | ||
| No. | ||
| So he gets into this, and then at the end there he's like, you know that health care bill that went sideways? | ||
| Then he starts talking about Julian Assange and how he shouldn't be prosecuted and blah blah blah. | ||
| It just goes on for a bit of his greatest hits of the things he doesn't like about Trump. | ||
| He has those three examples. | ||
| But then he gets to something that I think you and I are going to be really offended by. | ||
| And we don't want to end up like that, folks. | ||
| He's talking about Mexico and how... | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| Everyone gets shot there, man. | ||
| It's terrible. | ||
| Well, Juarez is a tough place, man. | ||
| I've been there. | ||
| It's not great. | ||
| But he's talking about how, like, so much violence, drug wars, and stuff like that. | ||
| We don't want to be like Mexico. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| You saw me like... | ||
| You saw the twitch in my eye where I'm like, that's because we have such a demand for drugs! | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| That's the drug war for you. | ||
| We should stop it. | ||
| Look at Chicago. | ||
| The only place in this hemisphere more dangerous than Mexico City. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| Chicago. | ||
| People are fleeing Chicago en masse. | ||
| We had a story about that yesterday that was linked up on DrugsReport.com. | ||
| As two people who live in Chicago... | ||
| More people are coming to Chicago than are leaving it. | ||
| We have a net population growth. | ||
| Also, I don't know if there's a hemisphere shift within the United States. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Is there? | ||
| So we got hemispheres, right? | ||
| So you got Mexico in one hemisphere. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then you go straight up to Chicago. | ||
| That's your central hemisphere. | ||
| Then you've got Canada. | ||
| That's your northern hemisphere. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Then you got South America. | ||
| That's your southern hemisphere. | ||
| My man. | ||
| Then you got your China hemisphere, and that's China. | ||
| Then you got Australia, which coincidentally is also part of the South American hemisphere. | ||
| You don't understand linguistics. | ||
| Hemi means half anyway. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| The United States is all in the same hemisphere. | ||
| It goes without saying that you don't want your national security advisor compromised by the Russians. | ||
| In terms of murder rates. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Chicago is eighth in the United States. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Eighth in the United States after St. Louis coming in at number one with almost a double murder rate. | ||
| And this is a per... | ||
| This is like per 100,000 people or whatever. | ||
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It's not total number of murders. | |
| But that's how you would evaluate things. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's how you compare things. | ||
| The number seems incredibly high, and it is way too high. | ||
| Right, because there's two and a half million people living here. | ||
| St. Louis is at number one with 59.3. | ||
| Number two, Baltimore. | ||
| Number three, Detroit. | ||
| Number four, New Orleans. | ||
| Number five, New Orleans. | ||
| Cleveland, number six. | ||
| Newark, number seven. | ||
| Memphis, then Chicago. | ||
| Yet another reason not to live in fucking Cleveland. | ||
| Or New Jersey. | ||
| Or New Jersey. | ||
| So, hey, Alex, Chicago's our city. | ||
| How about you go fuck yourself? | ||
| Yeah, don't shit on my city. | ||
| Yeah, especially, come right with facts. | ||
| Like, if you want to say that the murder rate is too high... | ||
| We agree. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We agree. | ||
| We could have that conversation. | ||
| But if you want to say that we're the most dangerous city outside of Mexico City, I also don't think Mexico City is the most dangerous city in Mexico. | ||
| It is by far the... | ||
| It's nowhere near. | ||
| Those border towns are fucked. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| Those places are... | ||
| So scary. | ||
| The towns with constant conflict between our law enforcement, the multiple cartels sitting around there trying to get around it, also fighting each other. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| They're a disaster. | ||
| No, there are... | ||
| I mean, in Juarez, you can see the fucking bodies hung from... | ||
| Like, highways. | ||
| Thankfully, I missed that when I was there. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| It was years ago. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| So anyway, he disparages our city, and he can go fuck himself. | ||
| But then he gets back to a topic he was touching on a little bit earlier, and he has some more thoughts about it. | ||
| So again, you're selling 500 shirts a day, and this isn't about selling the shirts. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's a bellwether. | ||
| And then you start selling 30, 40, 50 a day after he starts going sideways. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| We need... | ||
| They're also selling a Merlot. | ||
| Winner Patriots. | ||
| Because in the movie Sideways, they loved Merlot. | ||
| If you don't see Trump isn't moving the ball down the field by light years, if you don't see the enemy is absolutely crapping their drawers, if you don't see the fact that global corporate crony capitalism is a nightmare system and that Trump's opposing it, and using that system to our advantage now, then you're not paying attention. | ||
| They also sell a sundial soap bar. | ||
| But, like, do you hear that? | ||
| Like, if you don't see that Trump is secretly doing great things, then you're not paying attention. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| My man, I'm paying attention, and I'm ready to see the truth, and it just... | ||
| Your facts aren't there. | ||
| Alex, it's not. | ||
| So, it's... | ||
| Obviously, his facts aren't there. | ||
| That's not what we're here to... | ||
| I mean, in all honesty, if you are... | ||
| If you've listened to this podcast once, you know Alex Jones is constantly... | ||
| Always lying. | ||
| Lying. | ||
| He's always putting together a false narrative. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think today what I'm seeing is he is not lying. | ||
| He is creating a completely alternate universe. | ||
| But it's an alternate universe that all of his lies already existed in. | ||
| Because it's all that globalist narrative universe. | ||
| Yeah, but I mean, we're talking parallel universe, like Futurama style. | ||
| A flip of the coin kind of situation. | ||
| Because it's direct one-to-one. | ||
| This is true, so I'm going to say the opposite. | ||
| And it's across every single thing. | ||
| Trump is being investigated, so I'm going to say that Hillary... | ||
| It should be investigated. | ||
| Or they're blocking her investigation. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Even though they're blocking Trump. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| Or, you know, Trump is becoming an authoritarian dictator. | ||
| So I'm going to say that the Democrats are trying to become authoritarian dictators. | ||
| And he has to usurp some of those moves in order to squelch their authoritarianism. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| It is this whole constant thing where you are... | ||
| You're wrong. | ||
| Doing your best to divorce every single listener from reality. | ||
| You're wrong, though. | ||
| I'm wrong? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| And I don't mean to be rude. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| I'm the Roger Stone today. | ||
| I might as well get a tattoo of Hillary's face on my back. | ||
| Hold on, hold on. | ||
| I'll let you finish. | ||
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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | |
| He's still trying to skew people who live within this universe. | ||
| I don't know if I'm making too fine a distinction. | ||
| Or at least in what I think. | ||
| Just because he's lying about what's going on doesn't mean... | ||
| You might be right. | ||
| Take that! | ||
| There's a point I want to make, but I'm not sure it... | ||
| It tracks? | ||
| It's not that it doesn't track. | ||
| I'm not sure how to articulate it, and I'm not sure it's that much different than what you're saying. | ||
| I don't think you're wrong when you say he's trying to convince people who still live in this universe. | ||
| But it is driving people towards... | ||
| It's priming people for the argument. | ||
| But don't you understand that that's what propaganda is? | ||
| No, I do. | ||
| I do. | ||
| But this is complete. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is not we're picking on one thing and we're using it. | ||
| But honestly, that's no different than a lot of the episodes we've done. | ||
| He does that. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| He's a propagandist. | ||
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I know, but it just seems total this time. | |
| It just seems like he is completely divorced. | ||
| He's completely divorced from the reality we live in. | ||
| He's not bothering to put... | ||
| Any semblance of... | ||
| Because you know what probably happened in that hour-long conversation with Roger Stone? | ||
| This is... | ||
| It's going down. | ||
| We're fucked. | ||
| Might as well ramp it up to 11. My sources tell me that we're fucked. | ||
| Something like... | ||
| I mean, there has to be some awareness that, like, you can't fire the director of the FBI mid-investigation and think nothing is going to happen. | ||
| I think there is. | ||
| Well, the reports from the White House say... | ||
| They were surprised by the backlash. | ||
| But they're dumb. | ||
| Yeah, but so is Alex! | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So are his listeners. | ||
| He's a little smart. | ||
| So is everybody in the GOP at this point. | ||
| Every single human being who says, I am a Republican and I support Republican candidates is stupid. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Now, does that mean everybody who says they support Democrats is smart? | ||
| Fuck no! | ||
| No. | ||
| Fuck no! | ||
| But it's not 100%. | ||
| We are not beholden to any party? | ||
| No, my point being, with the complete and utterly different universe, I think he's priming people for the argument to have with somebody who's not there. | ||
| So it is always like, okay, and this is what he's doing, basically, by creating this parallel universe. | ||
| They say this. | ||
| So you say, instead of engaging with that argument, you say, well, that's not a thing. | ||
| This is a thing. | ||
| Me and Phil and Jordan Tyler Snodgrass had a little conversation about exactly that. | ||
| His first time listening to Alex Jones on the show, his sense of it was, this is teaching you to argue with people. | ||
| This is giving you lines to say, what about this? | ||
| What about blank? | ||
| In order to divert from the main points. | ||
| I would have known that, but I fast forward every time Replacement Jordans talk. | ||
| I would too. | ||
| I just only listen to you. | ||
| Boy, I tell you what, our numbers back that up. | ||
| Anytime you're not on the show, poof, plummet. | ||
| I've learned my lesson. | ||
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Anyway. | |
| That's not 100% true, but I just want to stroke your ego a little bit. | ||
| That's an Alex Jones fact for you right there. | ||
| Listen, every time you're not on Russian gas prices tank. | ||
| Fine, I quit the show. | ||
| From this point forward, through the rest of the clips we have, there's two poles that Alex Jones is fluctuating between. | ||
| One of them is rambling insanity, and the other is threats of violence. | ||
| They don't dovetail together? | ||
| Not really. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| There is a tiny bit of overlap. | ||
| I'll tell you this, it's mostly rambling insanity. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This next clip that I'm going to play is about the globalists. | ||
| And it's about the power structure, I think. | ||
| But I have specifically titled, the WAV file that I have here, the MP3, is titled, Doesn't Make Sense. | ||
| I listened back to this. | ||
| That could mean that you did that on purpose, or it could mean you forgot what was in the clip, and you were just like, that's fine. | ||
| That applies. | ||
| I fully remember what's in it. | ||
| It doesn't make sense. | ||
| I am going to say this is a mic down situation. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because I think we need to parse this. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| I want to let this clip play, and then when we get back, I really want to... | ||
| See if you have any idea what he said. | ||
| Alright, I'm going to take some serious notes here. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like, pretend you're studying for a goddamn midterm. | ||
| Trump's getting a lot done that's good. | ||
| That's why they hate him. | ||
| That's why I'm supporting him. | ||
| And this Comey thing is so good. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| And we have to understand that the old Republican leadership, most of them are just a bunch of country club people. | ||
| They were put into power because they're yes-men. | ||
| They're a bunch of lawyers who have played ball for 20, 30 years before they even get into Congress. | ||
| And you look at all those cowards, Republican and Democrat, in the Senate and the House, the old bluebloods that are in there. | ||
| They are so scared to death of mainstream media. | ||
| They think Bill Maher's cool. | ||
| They think Stephen Colbert's really cool. | ||
| They think TV's impressive. | ||
| They think it's a big deal to be on the news, and they're all proud to be on CNN and Fox. | ||
| It's an embarrassment to be on those shows playing along with all that. | ||
| That's the old world, the old facade, rotting, decayed. | ||
| Another big wind blows by, it's going to completely collapse. | ||
| Much of it has already fallen down. | ||
| And so they really are scared when they get home that their wife or their husband will say, I saw you getting bashed on TV, or you don't want to get called a Russian agent. | ||
| When that's the old, dying facade. | ||
| Trump knows it's an old, dying facade. | ||
| It's the corrupt takeover of the last 50 years in this country. | ||
| It's illegitimate. | ||
| It's authoritarian. | ||
| It's anti-free market and anti-American fundamentally because it wants to mount our head on the wall. | ||
| It had to struggle for decades to get control. | ||
| And it doesn't like real competition. | ||
| It doesn't like strength. | ||
| It doesn't like honorable systems. | ||
| It's a ruling elite that won high-tech feudalism. | ||
| So that's the clip. | ||
| I saw you scribbling. | ||
| I love... | ||
| So, I mean, look, I know that it's about a big picture that's about the globalists. | ||
| But the way those thoughts connected does not make sense. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Call me good. | ||
| Call me firing good. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Goes to... | ||
| And there's no reason why? | ||
| No, not given. | ||
| No. | ||
| The only reason he's given so far is because he wasn't investigating Hillary. | ||
| And he's weird. | ||
| And he's weird! | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, well then, never mind. | ||
| My question retracted. | ||
| It has been asked and answered. | ||
| Well, because he's not on the team, basically. | ||
| I'm using some subtext to answer that question. | ||
| We definitely want our law enforcement branch... | ||
| To be completely and utterly subservient to the government, like most good democracies. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| We definitely want them to treat our government as above the rule of law. | ||
| That's the best way to go. | ||
| That's sort of the implied answer to your question. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So then we go to old politicians, our country club. | ||
| But he starts by saying Republicans, and then he brands them... | ||
| Yes men and country club people, but then... | ||
| Along with the Democrats, the old guard. | ||
| In the same breath includes, after the fact, the Democrats. | ||
| He was just shitting on the Republicans, then brings the Democrats in. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Maybe the Democrats aren't country club people, but they're of the same ilk. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Blue bloods. | ||
| Yeah, very... | ||
| Blue bloods. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They think being on CNN and Fox is good. | ||
| Yeah, they think Bill Maher's cool. | ||
| Nobody thinks Bill Maher's cool. | ||
| I think Bill Maher does. | ||
| Well, that's probably true. | ||
| That's about it. | ||
| That's probably true. | ||
| Maybe whoever does the programming at HBO is still living in the past. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When that's actually an embarrassment. | ||
| And old media, if there's a big gust of wind, will collapse. | ||
| Because old media is... | ||
| Anti-free market? | ||
| See, now there is where pronoun reference gets weird. | ||
| Because he was talking about the media and CNN and Bill Maher and all this. | ||
| And then he says, a gust of wind will blow it over. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Then he says, it, again, which if you don't reframe what you're talking about, the it refers to what it most previously referred to, which would be the media. | ||
| And he's like, it is a system. | ||
| That is anti-American, anti-freedom. | ||
| But he's talking about globalism at that point, I think, but he hasn't delineated. | ||
| He hasn't made clear what he's talking about. | ||
| So the rest of it, you could think he was just talking about Colbert. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he's not. | ||
| Colbert is anti-free market. | ||
| Colbert wants technological feudalism. | ||
| That's obvious. | ||
| That's obvious. | ||
| How else will the late show remain relevant? | ||
| Well, technologically, we need to be advanced because we need cable. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We do need that. | ||
| Sorry, back to your point. | ||
| But that is an important part of the framework, is that he's not being clear. | ||
| He could be talking just about those old bluebloods instead, who are participating in a system that is anti-free market and anti-American. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And they are afraid of being called Russian agents because their wives will make fun of them. | ||
| Sure, they don't want to go home to their wives. | ||
| No, absolutely. | ||
| They're going to be like, I heard you were called a Russian agent. | ||
| And they're going to be like, ugh. | ||
| You cheated on me with Natasha. | ||
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Where is Squirtle? | |
| Where is Moose and Squirrel? | ||
| And then that's basically it. | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| Like, what can we glean from that, though? | ||
| What is the point? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it means... | ||
| I think what he's trying... | ||
| I think the overall idea he's trying to get across... | ||
| We have to use exegesis here. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Is that nobody's coming on my show. | ||
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I think that's really what he's saying right there. | |
| They're all still going on CNN and Fox News, and none of them are coming on my show. | ||
| And they need to know that the old media's dead. | ||
| It's time to come on InfoWars, baby. | ||
| Listen, I got Eddie Bravo coming in. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| He'll still come in. | ||
| I got Jesse James, the alleged Nazi, coming in. | ||
| I got Ted Nugent. | ||
| Along with Sandra Bullock, alleged Nazi. | ||
| She doesn't come on the show, though. | ||
| I got Ted Nugent. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Roger Stone. | ||
| Mike Cernovich. | ||
| Ron Paul. | ||
| Posobiec. | ||
| So yeah, that clip was a real mystery to me. | ||
| And again, I didn't take that out of context. | ||
| I didn't take anything out from before or after that makes it make sense. | ||
| I have no idea what he's saying. | ||
| No, I think all of what he's saying is that these guys are going on those shows afraid to be challenged. | ||
| Whereas if they went on his show, they would absolutely not be challenged. | ||
| Nobody would be calling them a Russian agent. | ||
| They would have nothing to fear. | ||
| And so that's why they're cowards. | ||
| That's why they're cowards. | ||
| It's interesting because there's a high preponderance of people on his show that do have ties to Russia. | ||
| But they would never be called Russian agents, not on his show. | ||
| Alexander Dugan has been a guest. | ||
| He is absolutely a contemporary of Putin. | ||
| He is a philosopher. | ||
| Was he called a Russian agent on Infowars? | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| None of these people would be called Russian agents if they went on Infowars. | ||
| Jack Posobiec, as we discussed on the last episode, has some weird ties to Russia. | ||
| Not called a Russian agent on his show. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Roger Stone. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Roger Stone! | ||
| Hopefully soon to be jailed Roger Stone. | ||
| Also Donald Trump! | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Hopefully soon to be hung from the neck in the streets. | ||
| For treason. | ||
| Not because we start a revolution and then depose him violently, but because finally we recognize that treason is something that our president shouldn't be allowed to commit. | ||
| And so the only way to keep any president from committing treason ever again Jesus. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| I don't want him to be hung, though, because then that butthole that happens in his neck might look like a prolapsed anus if he gets hung. | ||
| I want it. | ||
| I want it. | ||
| I don't want to see that. | ||
| Give me Trump's prolapsed anus neck. | ||
| But let's be clear. | ||
| What you're talking about is the fruits of treason. | ||
| Literally in the Constitution and in our legal codes. | ||
| Literally within our legal system that is allowed. | ||
| But because we're doing an Alex Jones podcast and Alex Jones will not stop talking about how everyone's calling for the death of Trump, that's not what we're doing. | ||
| I want to be crystal clear about that. | ||
| Lest we fall into a trap of Alex Jones's rhetorical bullshit. | ||
| We are calling for the rule of law to be... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| At all applied. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Period. | ||
| He should at least get punched in the balls for the China trademark thing. | ||
| Oh, so many things. | ||
| Anyway, I think that you're right mostly about the media being what he's talking about a ton in that last clip. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I know that it's about the globalists, too. | ||
| Because we get to this next clip, and I've titled this clip, The Last Temptation of Jones. | ||
| And that's how the elites operate. | ||
| It's charming, real nice. | ||
| Come on, Alex. | ||
| We used to be like you. | ||
| We used to be romantics. | ||
| You're not going to succeed in this crusade. | ||
| You'd either be a star or fail. | ||
| The public wants to tear you apart. | ||
| They're never going to care about you. | ||
| They're never going to like you. | ||
| You can't help them. | ||
| You just need to join us and hope you can influence things for the better, being part of the actual elite. | ||
| And that's the speech you get over and over again. | ||
| That's the speech you get. | ||
| Do the right thing for your family, Alex. | ||
| Just join us. | ||
| You can trust us. | ||
| We want to work with you. | ||
| So, there's two more minutes of this clip left, but I want to be clear, already I don't believe him. | ||
| No. | ||
| He's already talking shit. | ||
| There's nonsense. | ||
| I don't understand quite what it is he thinks he means here. | ||
| I know exactly what he thinks he means. | ||
| I can answer that one for you. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He thinks, or no, he doesn't think. | ||
| What he's saying is that the elites, the globalists, have come to him repeatedly in the past. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And been like, this dumb Infowars idea, you're trying to wake people up? | ||
| That's never gonna work. | ||
| These people are dumb cattle. | ||
| They're never going to go along. | ||
| They're never going to figure out our game. | ||
| We publicly put in white papers what we are going to do. | ||
| And you don't even know. | ||
| They don't care. | ||
| They're stupid. | ||
| Don't try and save them, Alex. | ||
| Don't do it! | ||
| So they always come to him and they give him that speech and they're like, we'll give you everything. | ||
| Just come on. | ||
| It's good for your family. | ||
| Come be a part of this. | ||
| And Alex is like, nah, baby. | ||
| I'm not into it. | ||
| I'm too real. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he goes on. | ||
| He goes on even further. | ||
| But that is what he's saying. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And I can say, With a 99% certainty that if that conversation ever happened, it was someone fucking with him. | ||
| It would have to be. | ||
| I'm almost certain that someone trolled him in the past. | ||
| Like, remember that BuzzFeed article that I put out? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That Charlie Warzel wrote and I tweeted out? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It starts with a discussion of how he used to have a public access TV show, and there was a guy... | ||
| I can't remember the guy's name now, but I think it might have been Space Hitler or something like that. | ||
| This guy would just constantly call him and prank call him. | ||
| He would just fuck with his TV show. | ||
| Space Hitler. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so I have to believe that early on... | ||
| We need to get Space Hitler on this show. | ||
| Oh, we gotta find him. | ||
| Oh, we gotta find Space Hitler. | ||
| He's still with us. | ||
| He might be in Space Argentina. | ||
| Well, he actually, you know, he killed himself in an underground space bunker. | ||
| Space Argentina, now. | ||
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That was fake. | |
| That was fake? | ||
| Yeah, I read it in the Space White Papers. | ||
| I remember the boys from Space Brazil. | ||
| So, like, I believe that it's entirely possible that in his early days, when there was sort of, like, his principles and his beliefs and his backstories of his own making were coming together. | ||
| They were being formed. | ||
| I bet someone fucked with him and pretended that they had, like, deep information or something like that. | ||
| And they pretended they were deep throat for him. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And were like, we'll give you everything. | ||
| Just come be a part of it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And then he... | ||
| See, I would say what I would see in that, what's more likely there... | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I want to give, if that scenario is true... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He probably agreed to it. | ||
| And then the guy was like, I'm fucking with you. | ||
| But he realized it was such a good narrative device, he decided to repurpose it. | ||
| I can see that. | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| That I believe. | ||
| The idea that rich elites have constantly tried to court him, I absolutely refuse to believe. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I agree with you there. | ||
| Here's what I would say. | ||
| I would say it is more likely that he had some talks with... | ||
| Fox News or one of those radio shows. | ||
| I believe that. | ||
| And they gave him the line, like, if we put you on a national platform, you have to tone some of this shit down. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| Like, just that simple. | ||
| You're gonna get us sued. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Just like, hey, if you start saying shit about Chobani and we get sued for it... | ||
| We're going to leave you out there on your own, and we're not going to allow this to happen. | ||
| So that, to me, is what he would interpret as that exact scenario. | ||
| That's interesting, because that is completely reasonable. | ||
| Yeah, I think... | ||
| That's possible. | ||
| Because he is popular, and any time there's something with that kind of support structure in it, some network will be like, well... | ||
| Let's give this a shot. | ||
| Let's talk to this guy. | ||
| Let's set up a meeting. | ||
| Let's see what's going on. | ||
| Fox News, especially in the early going with Fox News, whenever they were turning themselves into the right-wing propaganda network that they are, they must have been looking at him salivating. | ||
| I mean, they gave Michael Savage a show. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It was a disaster. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| I think that's possible. | ||
| And I think that's the reason why he's been with Genesis Communications for so long. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Is that they are basically just a supplement and gold hawking network. | ||
| And they don't give a shit. | ||
| Yeah, so long as you sell these supplements, fuck yeah. | ||
| And I'm sure there's a piece of his... | ||
| Say whatever you want. | ||
| I'm sure there's a piece of his contract, too, that is we're not responsible for whatever you say. | ||
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Oh, of course. | |
| You take full responsibility for this. | ||
| And if there wasn't at the beginning, oh, there sure was the last time they negotiated. | ||
| GCN sure as shit isn't going down for the Chobani stuff. | ||
| No. | ||
| Alex and Infowars are on the hook for that. | ||
| Anyway, he says a lot more about his temptations, as it were. | ||
| And it's crazy. | ||
| Punk girls, the cheerleaders. | ||
| Do you see how it all works? | ||
| The whole thing. | ||
| Even a lot of our high-level people don't get the whole thing. | ||
| We could really use somebody like you. | ||
| And you're supposed to go, oh, really? | ||
| I can fly around on the private helicopters and jets. | ||
| They'll be part of this whole system. | ||
| And then I can be a vampire, culturally, and play along with the deception and wage war against my own species. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| No, thank you. | ||
| Very polite. | ||
| And now here we are. | ||
| More than 18 years after I refused the first buy-off. | ||
| No thanks. | ||
| And you can see we changed the world together and we're making it a better place. | ||
| And we're turning the corner because we believe in humanity. | ||
| We believe in justice. | ||
| We believe in prosperity. | ||
| We believe in God. | ||
| We don't believe in evil. | ||
| We don't use evil systems just because it can advance us. | ||
| Yes, you do. | ||
| Physically. | ||
| Monetarily. | ||
| Temporally. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Temporally means time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We don't use time travel? | ||
| What is he talking about? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| So we don't buy into those evil systems that make us stronger physically, like some sort of super male vitality. | ||
| We don't... | ||
| Monetarily. | ||
| Participate in systems that make us richer monetarily, like supplements we sell, like Super Male Vitality. | ||
| For absurd markups. | ||
| We don't participate in things that advance us temporally, like supplements that make you feel like time is going super fast. | ||
| Maybe he's talking about tempura. | ||
| Tempurally? | ||
| Like the batter? | ||
| That's some good stuff. | ||
| Anyway, sorry. | ||
| Give me some deep fried carrots and shrimp and I'm good to go. | ||
| I cut it slightly the wrong part. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Ish. | ||
| That power, the ring. | ||
| The one ring. | ||
| The rings of power as an archetype. | ||
| You use evil technology. | ||
| You use systems of deception. | ||
| The knowledge of evil. | ||
| Nine rings made for men doomed to die. | ||
| It poisons the world and poisons you. | ||
| And then you don't even recognize why you get more and more evil once you get into it. | ||
| It's because it's a virus in your soul. | ||
| And it's slowly taking you over until one day you never wake up and something else is running you. | ||
| And now you've given over your psyche, your soul. | ||
| It's like a brain transplant has been put into your body, and you're dead. | ||
| He's literally just goleming. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's so insane. | ||
| Like, all right, man. | ||
| He can't really go on that long of a tangent. | ||
| Without somehow finding one of his touchstones that is a pop culture thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, he can't not reference a movie or a book or something like that. | ||
| The metaphor is thin in his language. | ||
| The metaphor is non-existent. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But you know what? | ||
| I mean, we don't know these people, these globalists who have had their lives ruined by the metaphorical rings of the world. | ||
| And you know what? | ||
| Alex may know a bunch more than us because he has met these people and he has some thoughts about them. | ||
| Does he have sources? | ||
| Listen, he's not going to tell you who they are. | ||
| They're Donald Trump's son, but he's not going to tell you who they are. | ||
| He's met some of these dudes and he wants to tell you about them and also is eventually going to get into Satan. | ||
| Oh, good. | ||
| I have been around billionaires, globalists, sellouts to the system. | ||
| And they're like scared robots. | ||
| They're just like crazed, weird, fumbling morons. | ||
| Crazed, weird, fumbling. | ||
| And then there are people who are in the system but still have a soul and they're totally freaked out and scared. | ||
| And the system's there to intimidate them, try to take their money away, try to destroy them, go after their families, if they dare stick their head up. | ||
| And Hollywood's the worst model of control and all the, quote, beautiful people that go there to be somebody. | ||
| And Hollywood didn't make them somebody. | ||
| Hollywood stole their greatness and then created a fiction around it. | ||
| No one bought your script, Alex Jones. | ||
| See, it's 50-50. | ||
| No one put you in movies, Alex Jones. | ||
| It's 50-50 that, and he just listened to Candle in the Wind. | ||
| It's one of the two. | ||
| Goodbye, Norma Jean. | ||
| It's like, it's some of that. | ||
| What kind of... | ||
| Why would you... | ||
| Okay. | ||
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All the papers had to say was that Alex Jones was found in the nude. | |
| So, the... | ||
| Obvious thing... | ||
| He's fucking praying Bernie Toppin makes a third version about him when he dies. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Well, the obvious reason you would go after, you know, Hollywood is because that's the touchstone that your listener base is like... | ||
| They don't represent our values and I don't like being told by Hollywood. | ||
| Dumb liberal Hollywood. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| I hate being told by those liberal elite out of work actors what to feel and think. | ||
| But then there's the added bonus. | ||
| It did also sound very personal though. | ||
| Oh yeah, he's petty. | ||
| But there is also the added bonus of the perceptions of MKUltra type stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And all these people in Hollywood are just brain controlled and sex slaves and shit like that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We should put together a list. | ||
| And put all of the people who might be globalists onto that list. | ||
| Well, I like this. | ||
| And we should, I think we'll call it a purple list. | ||
| Ooh, alright. | ||
| We don't want to invite associations with the old list. | ||
| Purple is the color of royalty in many cultures. | ||
| It was the most expensive dye back in the day. | ||
| Indigo. | ||
| Yeah, a very complicated color. | ||
| Yeah, that's why we had slaves. | ||
| Indeed. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| This isn't done. | ||
| When they could have gone out in the world and built whole new systems. | ||
| Like Hollywood. | ||
| But they had it stolen from them. | ||
| But the devil convinces you you can sell your soul. | ||
| You can't sell your soul. | ||
| You can convince yourself you sold your soul like the Faustian deal, but never know you could get out of it at any time. | ||
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What? | |
| The devil doesn't give you any of this. | ||
| What? | ||
| I don't get what's, first of all, so funny. | ||
| That made total sense. | ||
| You can't sell your soul. | ||
| No. | ||
| You can make yourself think you've sold your soul. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| But the devil can't give you any of this. | ||
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So, I mean, like, then why sell your soul? | |
| It's almost like the devil isn't real. | ||
| It is very similar to you. | ||
| It's very much like that. | ||
| Alex Jones is like... | ||
| He's legitimately maybe four steps away from atheism. | ||
| That's fucking off the rails! | ||
| He's two steps away from believing in crystals. | ||
| I don't think he'll ever get to atheism. | ||
| I think he will eventually be like, you know, these deep earth crystals, it turns out if you hold one in your hand, your wishes come true. | ||
| He's not two steps away from that. | ||
| He's one sponsor away from that. | ||
| If any crystal shop was like, hey Alex, I'll give you a hundred bucks, just fucking... | ||
| Tell him that you like bezoars. | ||
| He's like, I'm in. | ||
| I don't even know if that's a crystal. | ||
| No, a bezoar is actually something that comes from the stomach. | ||
| It's like hair and all that shit. | ||
| It grows in there, and then if it comes out whole, it heals diseases. | ||
| It's like a panacea. | ||
| It heals everything. | ||
| I meant agatite. | ||
| That is a much better. | ||
| You could have just stopped at agate. | ||
| But so he was like, you know, he's talking about Satan, and, you know, oh, this is satanic, and then you make a deal with Satan, but you can't sell your soul, you just pretend you sell your soul. | ||
| But hasn't he already said that all of these people have sold their souls, and they are satanic, and they worship Satan, and because of that worship, they get their power? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Bingo. | ||
| So we're... | ||
| So nothing is real. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Nothing is real. | ||
| But here's where that sort of dovetails into Alex Jones. | ||
| You can trick yourself into believing you made this Faustian bargain, but you didn't. | ||
| Because you can never know if you did. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And you can never know if you can get back out of it. | ||
| Anthos aren't real. | ||
| But the other thing is that, like, legitimately, this... | ||
| He was talking about how Trump had lost it, and Trump was the butt boy of the military-industrial complex. | ||
| He wasn't saying that as a thought experiment. | ||
| He was saying... | ||
| Well, Trump's gone. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now he's back on his bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, it's super odd that his Trump Pence 2020 shirts have not been selling as well after he called him a butt boy. | ||
| Yeah, three days later, his trust in Trump has risen from the dead. | ||
| Can we get more references to Trump as a butt boy? | ||
| No, that's not our purview. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| Donald butt boy Trump? | ||
| It's implied. | ||
| We don't need to go through it. | ||
| But, like, you understand what I'm saying, though. | ||
| I'm not taking him out of context. | ||
| He said it. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| But you understand what I'm saying. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He wavers this crazy line with Trump. | ||
| He's wavering this... | ||
| I don't even know exactly what he believes about Satan or demons or any of that stuff. | ||
| He just brings it up a lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's no consistent through line between, like, what is your cosmology about demons? | ||
| What are they? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because if he ever was nailed down on it, everything... | ||
| Well, but he believes in literal vampires. | ||
| Well, maybe not literal vampires, spiritual vampires. | ||
| He has said that they drink the blood. | ||
| Well, yeah, and he does say they drink the blood. | ||
| Because the adrenochrome. | ||
| Jesus Christ, I'm adrenochrome. | ||
| Yeah, which isn't a real thing. | ||
| It's from Hunter S. Thompson. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| So, yeah, he does believe all the... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So, I don't think... | ||
| Here is what I would say if I was going to kind of, like, try and... | ||
| Boiled down into a kind of quintessence of what his belief system is. | ||
| Good fucking luck. | ||
| It is whatever the fuck he feels like at any given point in time. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But then also it's guns. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| That's a conversation that we did have off air where it's like... | ||
| No, it was on air. | ||
| Oh, was it on air? | ||
| The only thing that he can't go back on is guns. | ||
| The only thing he can't go back on is guns. | ||
| And I think that's true. | ||
| But that's why he's never nailed down on exactly what he believes about these various topics. | ||
| He never is specific about who globalists are. | ||
| He never actually cites documents. | ||
| In the way that I have told you on this episode, the specific place where I have found a bunch of information about clean coal not being real. | ||
| Right. | ||
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You can go find that. | |
| I have specifically told you where the document is that backs up my claim that President Obama vetoed a sale of a company that was trying to sell microchips to China. | ||
| All Alex Jones ever says is... | ||
| Blah, blah, blah. | ||
| The white papers. | ||
| I've read their books. | ||
| The globalist books. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like all that stuff. | ||
| If you get nailed down to a fact, you're no longer slippery. | ||
| And I think that he could not exist in that environment. | ||
| So here's my rebuttal to that. | ||
| That relates to demons and that relates also to his position on Trump. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's even fucked up that that is negotiable to him to some extent. | ||
| Anyway, sorry. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | |
| I can't even improvise a rant. | ||
| I just have to say blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| Sorry, go ahead. | ||
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Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | |
| No! | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| This time for real. | ||
| Fooled again! | ||
| And I won't get fooled again. | ||
| So my rebuttal on that is he does have through lines, though. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So he does have touchstones. | ||
| Now, if I was going to... | ||
| Most of it's bigotry, though. | ||
| Well, that's actually just what I was thinking. | ||
| Like, you know how... | ||
| Most of the through lines, if you take the individual details away from it, are... | ||
| Anti-Semitism. | ||
| Distrust of minorities. | ||
| Anti-Muslim. | ||
| Cultural fears. | ||
| Transphobia. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| But then it all relates back to globalists. | ||
| Which, again, goes back to anti-Semitism. | ||
| But it's an... | ||
| And with the globalists, there's such a nebulous, non-existent negative force that you can ascribe any problem to them. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like, your gas went up. | ||
| Globalists. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Gas went down. | ||
| It's because Trump is fighting the globalists. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Like, any number of different things that are negative. | ||
| It's kind of a genius. | ||
| Your coal job, yeah. | ||
| It's a genius thing on some level. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In our respect, we're kind of locked in to the fact that we have to fight against a real person. | ||
| I like it better. | ||
| Which is why you have to do work. | ||
| I like it better that way, though, because when he says these things about, let's say, for example, Hillary selling the uranium to the Russians, I can look at him and I can say, ha ha, no. | ||
| You know, like, I know that. | ||
| I know that. | ||
| I can document that. | ||
| I know the facts of the case. | ||
| You know what's interesting? | ||
| If we switched positions, I think it would be much more similar to the Alex Jones show, where I have just read, like, a whole bunch of shit, and I don't quite have it all locked into my brain, like, linear. | ||
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| So I just start telling you things. | ||
| Like, I would play an Alex Jones clip, and I wouldn't research it all and be like, yeah, I heard in the Washington Post that this was wrong. | ||
| But also, fuck this. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Yeah, it's possible, but then I would be the worst InfoWars guest, because I'm like, what are you talking about? | ||
| That would be an interesting one. | ||
| Yeah, maybe donate to the show and we'll do that. | ||
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We won't. | |
| Please don't. | ||
| But anyway, hey, I'll tell you what. | ||
| Alex wants to talk more about the devil. | ||
| The devil was put in there in front of that, like a gatekeeper that you've got to make it through. | ||
| Instead of interfacing with the devil, this whole system, and having your destiny stolen from you. | ||
| We're going to go to break. | ||
| Come back. | ||
| I'm going to start taking your phone calls. | ||
| I've got a bunch of clips to get to as well. | ||
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| We'll continue to expand in the face of the enemy's attacks. | ||
| If you'll just commit to sign up for AutoShip at InfoWarsStore.com for high-quality fluoride-free. | ||
| That goes on for another three minutes, but I snuck an ad in on you. | ||
| He was talking about the devil fairly passionately. | ||
| You don't want to get your destiny stolen from you, so what you gotta do, give a hundred bucks to your local station, make sure they keep carrying us, give us, you know, buy some Super Blue, otherwise the devil's gonna get ya. | ||
| Also, I looked into it, he does have an affiliate in Chicago. | ||
| But it's suburbs. | ||
| He has a suburb affiliate. | ||
| So not technically in Chicago. | ||
| The actual broadcast strength of it barely reaches to the city. | ||
| So, I mean, maybe you could get a bad version of Alex Jones on the actual radio in Chicago. | ||
| But the idea that he says that he has... | ||
| I'm actually engaged in some research. | ||
| It's very difficult to do. | ||
| Because he is not lying. | ||
| He doesn't have a list of his current affiliates. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| I looked into the code on the website. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That's right, I did. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| We gotta find you a girlfriend. | ||
| Genesis Communications Network has a list of affiliates that broadcast the Alex Jones Show. | ||
| And that's something we discussed on our fourth episode. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I looked into the code on that website because I was like, when's the last time this has been updated? | ||
| And I found in the code the last time it was updated was 2015. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's not good. | ||
| No, so the number is actually off. | ||
| So I think I've started to engage in a little bit of research going through the top radio markets and trying to find out where the actual radio stations are because you can find it. | ||
| Every radio station has a website and they have their schedules on it. | ||
| Right, of course. | ||
| It just is kind of a complicated process of figuring out the stations in each city. | ||
| Yeah, and it takes forever. | ||
| And so I started with Chicago and I found that the station that... | ||
| That supposedly caters to Chicago, the third largest radio market in the United States, is based out of the suburbs and barely gets to the city. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So that is even a lie. | ||
| Like, even that is a lie. | ||
| But I'm excited. | ||
| His listeners have to all be rural, basically. | ||
| Rural or bourbon. | ||
| Rural. | ||
| Rural or bourbon. | ||
| Like the rural juror. | ||
| Those suburban. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But, yeah, I'm excited to... | ||
| Give you the results of that investigation as it comes. | ||
| Oh, also, I started an email address. | ||
| The only thing I've done with this email address is I've signed up for the Infowars newsletter. | ||
| Because I want to see if they sell my information and I start getting spam. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And something that's kind of interesting, it's been about three weeks since I signed up for it. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| I've gotten nothing except from Alex Jones. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, but... | ||
| So this is really just a true believer kind of mailing list. | ||
| But the first thing that I got from Alex Jones is an automated message. | ||
| Your InfoWars newsletter subscription and free e-book has arrived. | ||
| Free e-book? | ||
| Now this is something that he doesn't sell. | ||
| This is something you can only get and you automatically get. | ||
| You don't know you're getting it. | ||
| But if you sign up for the email list, you get it. | ||
| You know what it's called? | ||
| The Keys to Survival. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| I'll read you the description of it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You can download this free PDF. | ||
| the day's financial and political headlines to see historic events unfolding all around us. | ||
| True. | ||
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Regardless of political affiliation, more and more people across the globe are beginning to question not only their own futures, but the futures of their friends and family as well. | |
| True. | ||
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| He immediately sends you... | ||
| A doomsday prep e-book. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have you read it? | ||
| I haven't yet, but I'm certain most of it has to do with selling his food. | ||
| Like, his survival food. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I'm positive that's an ad. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But anyway, I digress. | ||
| God, I... | ||
| How cool... | ||
| Well, not cool. | ||
| How ironic would it be if that was the blueprint for surviving in the coming apocalypse? | ||
| Like, if you read it and you're like, this is good advice. | ||
| This is good advice. | ||
| And then you start taking all of it, and then you survive because of that. | ||
| And I'm sitting over here like, Alex Jones is silly. | ||
| There's no reason there. | ||
| But it does feel like the world is coming to an end. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| The premise isn't that flawed, but the argument is. | ||
| Again, we're back to that premise, argument, distinction. | ||
| Well, I mean, if you really want... | ||
| Stock up on survival food. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| If you want to talk about how, like, maybe Alex is right, I posit this next clip as evidence that you should shut your goddamn mouth. | ||
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| Because this is, like, I know that we've talked about chimeras and what have you. | ||
| With their sad human eyes! | ||
| The fish people. | ||
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Yes. | |
| This is kind of weirder. | ||
| We're not in Kansas anymore. | ||
| We're in the year 2017. | ||
| The globalist technology, 2050. | ||
| They already believe they have sentient AI computers. | ||
| Let's just say they're good enough to fool top engineers. | ||
| But it doesn't matter if they don't have a soul or aren't conscious because they're wired into billions of people's actions every day. | ||
| And they can build algorithms to track everything you do and predict what you're going to do before you even know it. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| The end of free will. | ||
| Total digital enslavement. | ||
| The de-evolution of man. | ||
| And they're getting us ready for it, saying no mothers and no fathers. | ||
| No family unit. | ||
| Is that how they're doing it? | ||
| No, just take drugs and watch TV and just bliss out. | ||
| So, first of all, no one's saying no fathers and no mothers. | ||
| Because that goes back to a lot of his trans arguments and stuff like that. | ||
| No one is saying that. | ||
| No one's saying that just because some people have differing identities, it doesn't mean that mothers and fathers are bad. | ||
| It has nothing to do with that. | ||
| The only time that I've ever heard any concrete examples of that is times when there are like... | ||
| People talking about divorced parents, like single parents, and the idea that implying that someone has a dad when they might not have a dad, like you have a single mom, like, oh, you know, where's your dad? | ||
| That could be hurtful to somebody in as much as they have an absentee father. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, if that is his argument, there's a kernel of something we can go from there. | ||
| I guess. | ||
| But the idea of, like, you know, trans identities and differing gender non-binary stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
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| Right. | ||
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Incredibly stupid. | |
| No. | ||
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Incredibly stupid. | |
| Well, the thing about him is he's not wrong about the AI thing. | ||
| I'll tell you why. | ||
| It's not important. | ||
| Because of the Mercer family. | ||
| That is Cambridge Analytica. | ||
| That is what they're trying to do. | ||
| That is Jared Kushner. | ||
| That is Steve Bannon. | ||
| That is exactly what they're trying to do. | ||
| There's more Steve Bannon than Kushner. | ||
| No, it's the Mercers. | ||
| Yeah, but Bannon is deeply involved with the Mercers. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| Frankly, fucking everybody is deeply involved. | ||
| We shouldn't be talking about Cambridge Analytica. | ||
| We don't want any of that nonsense. | ||
| They are fucked up. | ||
| They are insane. | ||
| So, this clip isn't nearly done, and it gets way worse. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And your journey towards... | ||
| Species extinction will be complete. | ||
| Very selfish move. | ||
| And the people running the planet are creating new species. | ||
| As fast as they can, every few hours. | ||
| Guys, killing the human race. | ||
| Dick move. | ||
| A new species. | ||
| A new species of virus. | ||
| A new species of bacteria. | ||
| A new species of animal slash plant slash insectoid slash silicon. | ||
| It's already here. | ||
| Synthetic nanotech humanoids. | ||
| Yeah, the robot cats were back in the 60s. | ||
| The robot rats were in the 80s. | ||
| The robot roaches in the 70s. | ||
| It's beyond robots now, boys and girls. | ||
| Wait, why do they start with cats? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Everybody knows the progression starts with roaches and then moves to cats. | ||
| Literally what he's talking about is that Russian spying stuff. | ||
| Like they were trying to spy on the Russians by putting a microphone in a cat. | ||
| That's not a robot cat. | ||
| Like Ant-Man. | ||
| That's not a robot cat. | ||
| Robot cats have been here since the 60s. | ||
| Everybody knows this. | ||
| It's not a robot cat. | ||
| So they're trying to develop a new species. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| They are. | ||
| They've already. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| They're developing new species every hour. | ||
| New species of viruses, bacterias, animals, slash plants, slash insectoids. | ||
| With silicon. | ||
| With silicon. | ||
| Slash silicon. | ||
| Do you know how you're going to protect yourself against silicon? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Deep Earth crystals. | ||
| It's gotta be. | ||
| It's gotta be. | ||
| It's gotta be that Deep Earth iodine. | ||
| So, I don't know if you remember this, Jordan. | ||
| Do I remember it? | ||
| But about an hour ago or so, in the broadcast, Alex Jones said he was gonna open up the phones. | ||
| Yes, I do remember that. | ||
| He hasn't. | ||
| But now he's about to. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Are we gonna get some calls? | ||
| Uh, no. | ||
| They all stink. | ||
| All the calls stink. | ||
| But he's gonna open up the phones, and then he sort of goes on a mini-tangent. | ||
| I want to go to Robert, Beth, Ben, Adam, Harry, all of you. | ||
| I thought that was one guy. | ||
| He doesn't. | ||
| I want to go to Robert, Beth, Ben, Harry, Jones. | ||
| Why is this broadcast so hated? | ||
| It's the same reason Trump's hated. | ||
| Because we believe in human empowerment. | ||
| We believe in free market. | ||
| We believe in open societies. | ||
| He's really hitting the desk hard there. | ||
| But you nailed it under your breath there. | ||
| It's because both of you lie all the fucking time. | ||
| All the fucking time. | ||
| And in ways that are easily documentable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, I don't know, I think it's incredibly frustrating because it gets to a certain point where you hear someone lie enough without consequences and you start to realize that the things that they're saying aren't really supposed to be believed. | ||
| It doesn't matter if you believe it, it's just the act of saying it that's important. | ||
| And that's really fucked up. | ||
| I think the main... | ||
| I'm talking about Alex and Trump right now. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Here's what I would say. | ||
| Because this is a conversation that I had with a family member when we were talking about... | ||
| I think it was climate change where they're like, how do you know that's true? | ||
| And I was like, well, because there's all this research, peer-reviewed, 97% of scientists agree. | ||
| Tons of experiments that are repeatable. | ||
| How do you know they're not lying to you? | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| Well, because that's how we establish objective facts. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Because the experiments are repeatable. | ||
| Well, not just that. | ||
| Because, hey, what if there's a giant conspiracy? | ||
| What if there's a giant conspiracy trying to do that? | ||
| To be fair, you play that game with me sometimes. | ||
| No, I do. | ||
| But here's how I know. | ||
| Because my fucking phone works. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| How do you know they're not lying to you? | ||
| Because every time you make a fucking phone call, the call is routed to a satellite. | ||
| The satellite has to account for the fact that it's traveling at a different speed than you are. | ||
| So that means that because of that time dilation, we know for a fact that E does equal MC squared. | ||
| We know the theory of relativity is true, because it has to account for that, otherwise it won't work. | ||
| The clock on your phone, because it is right, means that Einstein was right. | ||
| So whether or not you want to pull this research bullshit... | ||
| Here's how you know things are true. | ||
| Jordan, demons. | ||
| Because they work. | ||
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| Because they work. | ||
| They function. | ||
| There's a demon in your phone and it's tricking you. | ||
| If you don't believe in climate change, then get rid of your phone because it doesn't work for you. | ||
| I have really bad news. | ||
| The same math. | ||
| The same math. | ||
| You know how, Dan, you know how you've never been walking around and been like, oh shit, who turned the math off? | ||
| I was trying to tip 20% and all I just kept writing was 404 not found. | ||
| To be fair, that has happened when I've been drunk. | ||
| When I'm out of the bar. | ||
| Fair enough, fair enough. | ||
| Someone did turn the math off the other night when we were out at the whip. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I might have over-tipped like crazy. | ||
| That's entirely possible. | ||
| But be that as it may, oh, this is the bad news. | ||
| I cut this out entirely, but about 35 minutes of the show, Alex interviews a climate denier. | ||
| God fucking damn it! | ||
| Dan! | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Apparently, Al Gore... | ||
| What? | ||
| Agni-vaxxers? | ||
| Climate deniers? | ||
| What else do you want me to be angry about, Dan? | ||
| That's why I cut it out. | ||
| What do you hate me for? | ||
| That's why I cut it out. | ||
| I don't want you just blowing a gasket. | ||
| But apparently, Al Gore has a new documentary out. | ||
| A sequel to Inconvenient Truth. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Alex is furious about it. | ||
| And he interviews a climate denier about it. | ||
| Of course Alex is furious about it. | ||
| And it's really not worth breaking down. | ||
| Especially because it's outside of this narrative, it's outside of the Comey stuff, it's outside of his rambling globalist shit. | ||
| Why would you pick now to, other than, again, other than those bright shiny keys over here. | ||
| Look at these keys. | ||
| Look at these keys over here. | ||
| I'm jangling these keys. | ||
| Don't pay attention to our corrupt, felony-committing president. | ||
| It's exactly the same reason that on the day of the shooting in Charleston, we may never cover this episode, I'm not entirely sure, but I just listened to it. | ||
| The day of that shooting, Alex Jones spent, I would say, an hour of the show interviewing a lady who kept goats in her house. | ||
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| He interviewed her for an hour! | ||
| This is a state's rights issue! | ||
| I can keep... | ||
| Guns and goats in my house and I don't need a background check. | ||
| Her argument was that because of a genetic issue, she had to have a mastectomy when she was very young and she couldn't make breast milk and she didn't trust formula. | ||
| So she needed goats. | ||
| In order to make the milk, because buying goat milk, I don't trust the sources that they come from. | ||
| It's all nonsense. | ||
| I'm on climate change's side. | ||
| Nope, I'm on climate change's side. | ||
| I want the earth to wipe us out. | ||
| Keep in mind that this is the day that guy went into a black church and shot a bunch of people. | ||
| I don't know why you would need to cover that. | ||
| Also, keep in mind, it's the day after... | ||
| I forgot about this confluence of events. | ||
| That's the day after Trump announced his candidacy. | ||
| Jesus fucking Christ. | ||
| So those two things happened within that 24 hours, and Alex spends his entire show talking to Goat Lady, who has a website, I'mprogoat.com. | ||
| So, you ask, Jordan, you ask, why is he spending... | ||
| This time on his show, the day that Comey is fired, the day after that, why is he spending an hour of it rambling about globalists and saying, I've been tempted, they make offers? | ||
| That has nothing to do with Comey being fired or the Russia investigation. | ||
| You don't have any facts. | ||
| And I'll be honest, the interview with the climate denier, if you take the climate denial out of it, was a spirited interview. | ||
| The guy was kind of fun. | ||
| He's wrong about everything. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he has a decent personality. | ||
| Well, that's more than can be said for so many other people that have been on the show. | ||
| Everyone except Rappaport. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hashtag Rappaport still lives if you're still listening. | ||
| Shout out to everybody who has tweeted that at us. | ||
| Way more than I expected. | ||
| So we got one more clip. | ||
| From the Rappaport to the Rappafloor. | ||
| By the way, our sign-off is no longer We're Policy Wonks. | ||
| What does it know? | ||
| It's Rappaport Still Lives. | ||
| There's no doubt about it. | ||
| Done. | ||
| Fuck that noise. | ||
| We're done with this. | ||
| We're done with Policy Wonks. | ||
| Now, since all of our listeners now who donate are Policy Wonks, that can't be how we sign up. | ||
| No, it's Rappaport Still Lives. | ||
| We have to sign up with Rappaport Still Lives. | ||
| We have to raise our glasses. | ||
| It's ceremonious fashion. | ||
| Rappaport still lives, and then we waterfall our wine. | ||
| That's a really bad idea. | ||
| Our episode, whenever Rappaport dies, is going to be about climate change. | ||
| We're not going to cover it all. | ||
| Let me be honest. | ||
| If, and I'm saying if, not when. | ||
| If. | ||
| If Rappaport does die. | ||
| If? | ||
| Yeah, if. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| We have perhaps established that he is Gandalf and will... | ||
| Or might be a vampire. | ||
| Or might be a vampire. | ||
| I've never seen him in a mirror. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Anyway, if he dies... | ||
| Or he might be a Dorian Gray type thing, and that's what the picture is. | ||
| If he is, he is the picture. | ||
| That's true! | ||
| That's true! | ||
| Imagine what the picture... | ||
| I can't tell if the picture is a young version of him. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Here's the young version he trapped with a magic spell. | ||
| Which is counterintuitive. | ||
| No, it's a bad idea. | ||
| If he dies... | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I will be fucking furious if I'm not asked to give a speech. | ||
| If I'm not invited to the memorial, there is nobody in the United Goddamn States of America outside of Alex Jones that cares about him in the same way that I do. | ||
| Now, I hate him. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| I think he's wrong about everything. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But I want to hug him. | ||
| If he dies. | ||
| I think it's just because we both have cross eyes. | ||
| That picture is not kept there as a perfect shrine. | ||
| To what Rappaport means to all of us. | ||
| That's the greatest conflict of my life. | ||
| Is a tribute to him hanging up that picture finally once he's gone? | ||
| No, it's keeping it there forever! | ||
| Or spear tackling anybody who tries to put it up. | ||
| Like on constant vigil. | ||
| The rest of my life is standing at a three-point stance. | ||
| Just like, I dare you. | ||
| Like the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. | ||
| There should always be an eternal flame right there. | ||
| The flame of the Vestal Virgins. | ||
| So fuck all this noise. | ||
| Rappaport will die, and I won't speak at his funeral. | ||
| Never. | ||
| But we have one more clip, and this one is where, like, I know we didn't make this clear, but we drank a bottle of wine called Irony. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's Irony Vineyards. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's only appropriate because this is kind of an ironic episode. | ||
| Pretty much. | ||
| Alex Jones, in his attempts to tar and feather Comey, And make light of the Russia investigation is really showing his cards that he has no facts on his side. | ||
| He only has insinuations, lies, fake stories on his side. | ||
| He has nothing to back him up. | ||
| And not only that... | ||
| He's ironically... | ||
| He's failing in his defense. | ||
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| Well, and by his denials, he is actually directly pointing to why they're being investigated. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They should be investigating Hillary for this. | ||
| Instead, they're investigating Trump for the same thing. | ||
| Or way worse. | ||
| Or way worse, yeah. | ||
| So it's always like, here is what they should be doing, and it's the same thing they should be doing here. | ||
| It's never, it's always a complete parallel. | ||
| It's never like, also, I love the fact that there are no new boogeymen for them. | ||
| There's only Soros. | ||
| There's only Hillary. | ||
| That's their constant fight. | ||
| Well, yeah. | ||
| But that's what I'm saying. | ||
| But Hillary is a tool of Soros. | ||
| Their fight, their constant fight is distracting from the fact that they can't actually... | ||
| Get anything accomplished, really, other than turning this into an authoritarian government that has no respect for the rule of law and that is constantly trying to flout it at every possible example, is directly compromised by Russian agents, is absolutely cowardly and incapable of protecting our fucking... | ||
| Goddamn country from the fact that all of this shit is destroying democracy in America all because they just want to get fucking tax cuts. | ||
| This is all for tax cuts. | ||
| But not Alex. | ||
| The entire GOP is willing to destroy democracy so we can get a 20% lower marginal tax cut. | ||
| You're talking about the real world. | ||
| That's not Alex. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Alex doesn't care about that that much. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| His motivations are his insanity. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's what's crazy about it. | ||
| Like, I understand. | ||
| I need to leave the real world at the door. | ||
| I understand the tax cut motivation way more than I understand Alex's globalist narrative. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| I have been studying and trying to pay attention to Alex's globalist narrative, and as best I can tell, it's baloney. | ||
| Let's get back to the center. | ||
| The irony is what we've... | ||
| That's right, that's what we were talking about. | ||
| The irony is what we've already laid out, but I want to introduce a further irony. | ||
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| In this clip, Alex Jones loses it a little bit and expresses overt racism, overt hatred, and really shows that they've got nothing. | ||
| His side has nothing. | ||
| This is what they have. | ||
| Right here. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| This is it. | ||
| This clip is it. | ||
| I've had my cruise in Ferguson and in Austin and in Dallas and in New York and in LA and in... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If Ferguson is your first city, we're fucked. | ||
| Well, but there's a reason. | ||
| Hold on. | ||
| Bakersfield is just everywhere and they're just there going oink, oink, bang, bang. | ||
| How many... | ||
| Cops, five is good. | ||
| No, six is better. | ||
| Seven is better. | ||
| Bang, bang, kill the cops. | ||
| And buses of offloaded college students, a bunch of white ones getting off saying, deck the halls of dead cops. | ||
| So all the stories that have come out about bussing in protesters and stuff like that have all been debunked. | ||
| All of the instances of that in terms of paid protesters and dumb white people getting off buses and stuff like that are all spurious. | ||
| But then he refuses to engage with the idea that the reason that these Black Lives Matter groups and even the further black nationalist groups that are a little bit further on that side than even Black Lives Matter. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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| Those people who are really mad, and I include white people such as myself and you, I would definitely assume in this. | ||
| Me? | ||
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| The reason that they're mad at cops about these sorts of things is that cops keep killing people. | ||
| Black people specifically. | ||
| With no repercussions. | ||
| They kill white people as well, that absolutely is true, but it seems definitely, if you look at the statistics, they kill... | ||
| Disproportionate. | ||
| And never get punished for it. | ||
| So, when black groups, such as Black Lives Matter and nationalistic black groups, talk about killing cops, it's not so much they just want to kill cops, it's an expression of frustration. | ||
| That they see members of their community get choked out on the street for selling loose cigarettes and no one cares. | ||
| Totally and utterly justifiable oppression. | ||
| Yeah, and it's a total... | ||
| Or frustration with oppression. | ||
| No, it's a justified response to it. | ||
| It's a justified response to it. | ||
| And they aren't killing cops. | ||
| They are... | ||
| Fuck these cops. | ||
| We want... | ||
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| Here's the thing that drives me insane. | ||
| Do you know what they want? | ||
| Not to be killed by cops? | ||
| Justice. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Because here's the real deal. | ||
| If you just prosecuted these cops and made sure... | ||
| Because isn't that the whole point of all of these punishments? | ||
| The whole point is to act as a deterrent. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So if you see justice being applied equally, Then you can say this is a deterrent to future cops killing black people. | ||
| Much like you're hanging a president is a deterrent to future presidents. | ||
| It is a punishment, but it is really just don't... | ||
| Because there is going to be a punishment. | ||
| Well, and I would say further, it's a reason to... | ||
| It reinforces the reason you have rules. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because if there are rules and certain classes of people aren't beholden to those rules, those aren't rules. | ||
| It's an unjust society, which is... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And there's nothing really... | ||
| Like, I understand. | ||
| Look, I'll be totally fair to cops. | ||
| Sometimes a cop makes a bad kill that is justifiable. | ||
| This does happen. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| You know, you're on a bust or something like that. | ||
| Someone jumps out in front of you. | ||
| You kill somebody. | ||
| It happens. | ||
| And the reason that people are mad at the police about these things are not those instances. | ||
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No. | |
| They are youths. | ||
| Unarmed youths that are killed. | ||
| Children. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I was trying to soften it. | ||
| Children. | ||
| No. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Cleveland. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Children. | ||
| There are unarmed men. | ||
| There are unarmed... | ||
| There was that instance of the... | ||
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Michael. | |
| Michael Brown. | ||
| I can't even remember the guy's name because there's too many of them that was killed in his car with his girlfriend while she was videotaping it. | ||
| So many. | ||
| It's come to a boiling point where it's... | ||
| Think about this. | ||
| Think about this. | ||
| If people weren't pissed off and saying, fuck the police, it would be insane. | ||
| Think about how angry we are right now at Trump flouting the rule of law. | ||
| Now, imagine every single member of your family for the entire existence of your family, as far back as you can remember them being in America, being subject to that same level of injustice and worse. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And look at how angry we are now. | ||
| And this is really the first time in my life where I've had to look at the government and say, These people are affecting me personally and destroying me. | ||
| As opposed to my entire life. | ||
| Well, let's be honest. | ||
| Having a Target printed on my back. | ||
| Let's be fucking honest. | ||
| Even for you now, it's still hypothetical. | ||
| Oh, they're taking my... | ||
| I mean, they're trying to take my health insurance away. | ||
| They're trying to destroy everything. | ||
| It's still to come. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| It's still not really affecting you. | ||
| No, and I'm not being detained at the border. | ||
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No. | |
| I am not being detained at the airport. | ||
| I am not being grabbed. | ||
| Being taken away from your kids. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| None of these things are happening. | ||
| Nobody's raiding my house, and I am furious. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And all of this is happening to other people. | ||
| Alex Jones's inability to deal with the abstract and to deal with the reality of the world is really embarrassing. | ||
| Like, the idea that he is just, uh, is just, like... | ||
| Cut and dry, making it like, these people walking around, they want to kill cops, liberals, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| I don't know how to put it exactly, but I would say it's an embarrassing lack of nuance. | ||
| It's racist. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It absolutely is racist. | ||
| It's a complete lack of empathy for other human beings. | ||
| Oh, totally. | ||
| Let's get back to this clip. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Oh, we're in the middle of the clip. | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| This clip, it gets way worse. | ||
| And again, I don't like worship cops, but there was just any group. | ||
| Let's kill firefighters. | ||
| Let's kill teachers. | ||
| It's like, what? | ||
| I mean, I have to tell you, when I see people organizing saying randomly kill people. | ||
| Let's fucking kill students. | ||
| Let's let people murder students. | ||
| I start thinking about that's an armed force against me. | ||
| And not to fucking think about it. | ||
| You know, as a man, wheels start turning like that's an enemy. | ||
| And then they sit there running their mouths how they want to kill patriots all day long. | ||
| These people don't think we're not. | ||
| We actually build businesses. | ||
| We actually hire people. | ||
| We actually work 17, 18 hours a day. | ||
| We actually built this country. | ||
| And all you slack-jawed wimps and communists and dumbasses think you're going to keep running your mouth forever. | ||
| You piece of fucking shit. | ||
| That's so dog-wizzly. | ||
| You piece of goddamn fucking garbage. | ||
| I mean, it's impossible to hear that and not hear, like... | ||
| White supremacy. | ||
| Yeah, essentially. | ||
| He couches it behind patriots. | ||
| No, the earlier thing. | ||
| We built this country. | ||
| Where he says, no, no, no, in the earlier clip that we got off on a tangent about, where he says, they're busing in white people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He specifically points that out. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Which is, they're busing in traitors to the race. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's exactly what he means. | ||
|
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100%. | |
| That's exactly what he means by saying, they're busing in white people. | ||
| I meant to get back to that, and I'm so glad you picked up on that. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And I am, this is the eternal battle with Alex Jones, is like, I know he feels that. | ||
| But I don't know how aware he is that he feels that. | ||
| Because you wouldn't say those things if you didn't feel them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's in him. | ||
| That is what he's expressing. | ||
| But it's not clear to me that he is consciously being like, they're traitor to the race. | ||
| I'm going to scapegoat them. | ||
| I don't know if that's the case. | ||
| It's very complicated. | ||
| See, the problem there is that that's... | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| That's a basic Fox News dog whistle, though. | ||
| Oh, sure. | ||
| That idea of their bussing in white people is something that they're putting out visually, if not explicitly. | ||
| But I think they're smarter about it. | ||
| They don't call out the white part of it. | ||
| Because I think maybe their segment producers would be like, guys, guys. | ||
| At least they try not to. | ||
| Alex is not beholden to sponsors. | ||
| If you go to Fox News, you can definitely find plenty of racist dog whistling. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
| No end to it. | ||
| But not to a similar extent. | ||
| No. | ||
| But yeah, that is totally true. | ||
| And it wouldn't track without the rest of that. | ||
| The idea that we patriots built this country, and you said it over it. | ||
| You're totally right. | ||
| Slaves built this country? | ||
| Slaves fucking built this country. | ||
| Built basically everything. | ||
| Look, I'm pro-reparations. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| I don't know what it looks like, but yeah, agreed. | ||
| Give black people all the money. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And then let's go from there. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| That's my advice. | ||
| I think we need some more nuance to that. | ||
| With interest. | ||
| I'm going to tentatively sign off on that. | ||
| What's our national budget? | ||
| Like two-some trillion dollars? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Give it all to them. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| No, so here's my... | ||
| I don't like that my sort of way to transition is just saying, listen, because sometimes I don't have something to say after that. | ||
| Here's what I will... | ||
| Shit. | ||
| No, here's what I'll say. | ||
| As a road comic, and this is something that I find after shows all the time, is that old white dudes will come out to me after the show and be like, hey, you were really funny. | ||
| Let me tell you a joke. | ||
| And then they'll tell me this racist joke. | ||
| A street joke. | ||
|
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Because they think it's a team. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| They think the white race is a team. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| They don't think explicitly that they're being racist. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| They just assume. | ||
| They just, like, just without even, without consciously thinking about it, they're just like, oh. | ||
| You're white. | ||
| You're on my team. | ||
| I wouldn't say this to my black friend, but it's okay to say it to you because we're on the same side. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And that's to me what that kind of dog-whistly racism is. | ||
| He doesn't even think about it. | ||
| It's just there. | ||
| It's just there. | ||
| It's just assumed. | ||
| Laughing for the wrong reasons is what kills so many of my jokes. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And you can hear it, too. | ||
| Like, when you tell a joke that you know is meant to lampoon and is meant to make people feel bad for actually believing this, and you get that type of laugh in the wrong way, you're like, oh, nope, I'm part of the problem now. | ||
| Jordan, we gotta get to the business. | ||
| Let's get to this business. | ||
| We're way too far into this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So the rest of this clip is, I mean, I have to say it's even worse. | ||
| You keep running your mouth, you're going to run it right into six feet under. | ||
| And that ain't talk. | ||
| You see what we've done politically. | ||
| You sit here and push it much longer. | ||
| Oh, the physical action's not going to come from me. | ||
| It's going to come from your actions, and you're going to get knocked upside your head. | ||
| But betas always need that, don't they? | ||
| They always take alphas being restrained as weakness until you find out. | ||
| And then you wish you hadn't got... | ||
| Kicked upside the head by a horse. | ||
| The sad part about this is there's no pleasure in killing you. | ||
| There's no pleasure in running you over. | ||
| There's no pleasure in defeating you because you're scum. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Just get out of the way. | ||
| What in God's fucking name is happening right now? | ||
| Keep enjoying the civilization that the Patriots built and stop bitching. | ||
| But I know, you want that rite of passage. | ||
| You want to piss on your betters. | ||
| You have criminal energy. | ||
| I know. | ||
|
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And so just keep pushing. | |
| Keep pushing. | ||
| Because once you pass the demarcation line, once you've gone past the point of return, once you've hit the event horizon, just remember you asked for it. | ||
| Because you start a war, it's one that we will finish. | ||
| Make no mistake, dumbasses. | ||
| All right, let's go ahead and talk to Adam in New York. | ||
| You're on the air. | ||
| Yay, Adam in New York. | ||
| I hope you had a great phone call. | ||
| That is terrifying. | ||
| It's impotent, but it's terrifying. | ||
| I took my headphones off. | ||
| You did. | ||
| You had a moment there. | ||
| I can't breathe. | ||
| I really can't. | ||
| But can I take a step back and allow you to breathe? | ||
| Please. | ||
| That's a desperate man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's nothing. | ||
| He's... | ||
| That is... | ||
| It goes back to what I was saying. | ||
| That's an empty, worthless threat. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| And him acting like that, I mean, first of all, it embodies tons and tons of racism. | ||
| But at the same time... | ||
| And toxic masculinity. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| But at the same time, it goes back to the beginning. | ||
| He's shook. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He would not be saying these sorts of things if it wasn't coming from a place of intense fear. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He knows... | ||
| He's a cornered rat. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what he is. | ||
| The lawsuit stuff is catching up to him, and he's realizing this firing of Comey is going to backfire real hard. | ||
| Stone is going down. | ||
| His allies are going down. | ||
| Flynn is going down. | ||
| Steve Pachanek might be fine, but his whole thing is done. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| To the point where I started this morning, Tuesday. | ||
| Wednesday? | ||
| It's Wednesday. | ||
| I started Wednesday really... | ||
| In a terrible mood about the firing of Comey and what it could portent. | ||
| At 10 a.m. when every GOP congressman finally was like, I support this decision, it was the most depressing. | ||
| It was like waking up and somebody saying, oh, by the way, democracy is over. | ||
| I'm still worried about that a great deal. | ||
| Don't get me wrong. | ||
| But hearing this episode... | ||
| Made me feel a lot better. | ||
| Because I don't think that this exudes confidence. | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| No, this is pure fear. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| And to me, when your enemy is pathetically spouting nonsense, lies, hatred, and fear... | ||
| And not at all gloating about the idea that one of his enemies has gone down. | ||
| Really. | ||
| That was not most of the show. | ||
| I don't think he did any gloating. | ||
| Other than saying... | ||
| Other than saying that he's weird. | ||
| Yeah, other than saying Comey is weird and it's good that he got fired. | ||
| And he's compromised by globalists and what have you. | ||
| Yeah, not a ton. | ||
| But even that wasn't globling. | ||
| That was rationalizing. | ||
| You just said globling. | ||
| Wow, did I say that? | ||
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You did. | |
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| He's rubbing off. | ||
| But to me, when I listened to this, I... | ||
| It was a portmanteau of gloating and globalizing. | ||
| I felt a lot better, though, because I was just like, all right, it's going to be shitty, but he knows something that we don't know, and I think that thing that he knows is that a lot of his allies are in big trouble. | ||
| You would hope so. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| And if that is the case, it's kind of unfortunate, because this show might be in trouble. | ||
| Well, here's the thing, though. | ||
| We have backlogs. | ||
| Alex goes down. | ||
| We start to explore periods of his life. | ||
| Well, not just that, but the rats leave the ship. | ||
| You're absolutely right. | ||
| They're going to Rebel Media. | ||
| They're going to all of these different places. | ||
| But we don't have to immediately start covering them. | ||
| We can just go back to... | ||
| To the good old days. | ||
| So when we put this out, it's going to be May 11th. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We could go back to May 11th, 2013. | ||
| And do this show every day pretending we're four years in the past. | ||
| We could just do that. | ||
| Let's retreat inside our own false reality. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I'm for that. | ||
| I'm not against it. | ||
| So, listen. | ||
| If I could... | ||
| Again, I just did that. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| Listen! | ||
| Listen, people. | ||
| If I had to summate, I would say Alex Jones is incredibly afraid right now and it's very sad. | ||
| He's lashing out a good deal. | ||
| Some of it's pretty funny. | ||
| I'm sad that he feels like he needs to support Trump to get his t-shirt sales up. | ||
| I would say raise the margin on those shirts a tiny bit. | ||
| If you're charging 60 bucks for a bottle of some of your pills, why not charge 8 bucks for the shirt? | ||
| If you're charging 4.95, at least charge 7. Right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're going to get more out of your profit margin. | ||
| You're just selling them at cost. | ||
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You can't do that. | |
| In for a penny, in for a pound with your dumbass listeners. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| If they're paying five, they're paying ten. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just as a businessman, what are you fucking doing? | ||
| Which, he's supposedly a fairly good businessman. | ||
| Or at least, no, not just that. | ||
| He is a good businessman since he's turned his... | ||
| Lies and bullshit Variety Hour into a media borderline empire. | ||
| I think the odds are that someone behind the scenes... | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But anyway, because he did it for 24 years before that. | ||
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That's true. | |
| Without doing that. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| But anyway, guys, this has been super fun. | ||
| I know everything's scary right now, but please take some solace in knowing that Alex is more afraid than you are. | ||
| Just like the Trump-Pence 2020 shirts are a bellwether to whether or not his listeners are willing to publicly support Trump, the fact that Alex Jones is this afraid is a bellwether for this kind of alt-right backlash that is going to happen. | ||
| It's coming. | ||
| Going to see a significant... | ||
| It's Newtonian. | ||
| For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. | ||
| And I want to say this. | ||
| Because we don't know classified information, we can't be fully certain of a lot of the realities. | ||
| Roger Stone does not have to have access to confidential information to know what he has done. | ||
| Right? | ||
| You would hope. | ||
| So, he doesn't have to have sources to know the fucking transgressions he's made. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He could be expressing some of that to Alex, and that might be an explanation for some of his fear. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| If you would like to follow us on Twitter, it is at knowledge. | ||
| That was aggressive. | ||
| Underscore fight. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And if you're Jack Posobiec, please send me a DM. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Why not? | ||
| Okay, fair enough. | ||
| You want a DM? | ||
| Andrew Cernovich, send me a DM too. | ||
| Or Jerome Corsi, I'll take one from you. | ||
| I'll tell you what. | ||
| Rob Dew? | ||
| No. | ||
| But. | ||
| No. | ||
| I will say this. | ||
| Rob Dew, do not slide to my DM. | ||
| To the other guys? | ||
| Jakari Jackson, send me a DM. | ||
| Oh, Jakari Jackson, send us an email. | ||
| Knowledgefight at gmail.com. | ||
| Yeah, or sure. | ||
| We want to get into it. | ||
| Or you can check out our website, knowledgefight.com. | ||
| What I will say, though, is fuck everybody else. | ||
| I want Rob Dew to go on iTunes, look up Knowledge Fight, and subscribe to our podcast. | ||
| And give us a one-star review. | ||
| Oh, please do. | ||
| Finally, get a non-five-star review. | ||
| Suck it, world. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if you want to donate to the show, you can. | ||
| We've got a link up there. | ||
| If you want us to time travel to the past and discuss a specific date in Alex Jones' past, $10 a month, we will do it. | ||
| We've got a bad one coming up. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Real bad one. | ||
| Real bad one. | ||
| So our wonderful, supportive, policy wonk listeners... | ||
| This one was suggested by my best friend. | ||
| ...are doing exactly what I predicted they would do, and they're trying to torture you. | ||
| Well, here's the deal. | ||
| I'll tell you off air. | ||
| Anyway, guys, this has been a lot of fun. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| This has been a lot of fun. | ||
| Guys, we can't thank you enough for listening. | ||
| It means the world to us. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Share. | ||
| Put us in message boards. | ||
| If you listen to other podcasts, recommend people who listen to those podcasts, too. | ||
| Spout it. | ||
| Spout the bullshit. | ||
| Tell your friends, let's fucking do this. | ||
| We're in a knowledge fight, people. | ||
| Oh, that sounds very close. | ||
| Alex Jones is like, we're in an information war. | ||
| I can't use the exact same words, but he's right. | ||
| We are in an information war. | ||
| That is true. | ||
| We have... | ||
| Given some information here that counters his information. | ||
| So please send it. | ||
| Send it out there. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Spread this! | ||
| I'm sick of seeing all of these Fox News lies just spread with no, no backlash. | ||
| I'm more sick of seeing people tweeting shit about Alex Jones. | ||
| That is not fully covering him. | ||
| That makes me more mad. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| When I see someone tweet an Alex Jones link and has like 600 retweets, I'm like, we covered this. | ||
| It's already done. | ||
| If people just got on board, we know what he's up to. | ||
| Now granted, how fucking annoying is it to get through Fucking three hours of us talking. | ||
| Hey, we're entertaining. | ||
| Give us some credit. | ||
| But it's still three hours. | ||
| It is still three hours. | ||
| Anyway, guys, the big point of this is Rappaport still lives! | ||
| Rappaport still lives! | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
| Hello, Alex. | ||
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I'm a first-time caller. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |