Knowledge Fight - #41: May 12, 2017

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#41: May 12, 2017

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In the May 12, 2017 episode, Alex Jones falsely claims Comey’s firing was justified, mocks Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ credibility with sexist remarks, and fabricates Keith Olbermann’s calls for a "coup" while dismissing his warnings about Trump’s administration. He ignores evidence—like Mercer’s $15.5M donation to Trump’s campaign or Palmer Associates’ history of housing violations—and frames Democrats as hypocritical, despite their own ethical lapses. Jones’ reliance on cherry-picked stats and inverted reality exposes his agenda-driven rhetoric, undermining trust in both his claims and climate science, where he dismisses melting ice caps as seasonal. His erratic behavior, including violent outbursts, further discredits his narratives, highlighting how conspiracy theories thrive on misinformation over facts. [Automatically generated summary]
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alex jones

infowars 29:44

dan friesen

01:43:17

jordan holmes

01:10:10

keith olbermann

06:42

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sarah huckabee sanders

r 01:32

steve pieczenik

01:47

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Speaker	Time	Text
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
unidentified		Hello, Alex.
		I'm a first-time caller.
		I'm a huge fan.
		I love your work.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey, everybody.
		Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
		I'm Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm Jordan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're a couple dudes who like to sit around and drink red wine and talk about the wacky wacky shenanigans of one Alexander Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, here is the thing about this that makes it an interesting conversation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And make no mistake, it is super interesting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like our hubris out of the gate today.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not coming from me.
		I read it in the white papers.
		This podcast is interesting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, now here's one way of putting it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You read the white paper.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do.
		I listen to the white.
		You listen to the white.
unidentified		To the white nationalist, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I, however, do not and know nothing about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I watch Alex Jones' show every day, and you live a better life.
		I do.
		So, guys, we're going to get into today's episode, which is going to be insane and all over the place.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Excellent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to be covering the May 12th.
		That's last Friday's episode of the Alex Jones Show.
		Before I do, I'd like to give a shout-out to our new donator.
		It's the first person who has not donated in their given name.
		This is a welcome to the team, Out Blinker.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Outblinker, you're a policy wonk now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Welcome aboard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Longtime listener, I believe.
unidentified		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think might have been on board real early.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Almost since the very beginning.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yelled at you for calling Milo Yiannopoulos a Nazi.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I believe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think you might be right there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, we're glad to have you on the team of Policy Won.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's interesting today is that we are drinking Liberty School wine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad you brought that up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is very coincidental or perhaps on purpose.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very intentional.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I bought that bottle of wine for today because I am going to take Liberty-loving Alex Jones to Liberty School.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, I would also say there is Trump is actually speaking at Liberty University.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a double.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a double.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you've got both.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, look, I'm not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or at least we're drinking both.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not a guy for single entendres.
		You know what I'm saying?
		I like multiple interpretations.
		I like depth.
		Poetry.
		I don't like poetry that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody likes poetry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not really.
		Poets do.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Those poor bastards.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones was in a weird mood on Friday.
		He got into the studio, and I think he started defensive.
		It usually takes him a couple minutes to get into super defensive mode.
		But here's how he chose to start out on Friday.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to admit something to you on air right now.
		I overprepare.
		I was making you laid in bed last night for about three hours with an iPad reading news and watching video clips.
		Then I got up at about 6 a.m. this morning and researched for a couple hours.
		And then I got back to work and went over the latest news.
		And my head is just spinning.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because of the Johnny Walker.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		One of the producers walked in.
		He goes, this is going to be an incredible show today.
		Look at all these clips you sent us, the other clips we have.
		It's incredible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I got to be honest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is incredible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
unidentified		But not in the way that Matt thinks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, throughout the course of this episode, we're going to find that Alex Jones did no research.
		He might have been up till three reading Breitbart articles or something like that, but he did no research at all.
		This is going to be so fun.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Institutional crisis meltdown on the government.
		This is amazing.
		And I'm just like, yeah, I know it's amazing, isn't it?
unidentified		Boom.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's amazing how good Trump is.
		The commission to expose election fraud.
		How the Democrats are openly getting illegals to vote in mass.
		Pence coming out and admitting that there's genocide against Christians.
		Hundreds of thousands a year being killed.
		Nobody would say that just a year ago.
		U.S. Steel coming roaring back.
		U.S. aluminum.
		U.S. dry goods, U.S. finished goods, so many good numbers, but then you juxtapose it with all the bad numbers, and we are in the best of times, worst of times.
		I open the broadcast so many times with that statement, and then stuff like this.
		I watched this seven and a half-minute GQ rant by Keith Oberman, and I watched it very, very carefully.
		Let me tell you something.
		Oberman didn't do this as a stunt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He didn't do it as a stunt?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He didn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He didn't do that as a stunt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did he do it as a job, perhaps?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He might have done it as a job.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But so here's what's great.
		He lays out all these stories that he ostensibly wants to get to in depth.
		And look, none of them are real.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Christians are.
		We're going to get into this as the thing goes along.
		He's making the argument that Christians are the most persecuted group in the world, and that Pence came out and said that hundreds of thousands are killed a year.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he said that, nor is that true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not true.
		I don't care if Pence said it or not.
		It's 100% not true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the premise that no one would have said it a year ago isn't true because there's like World Net Daily articles for the past five years saying it.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're all horribly unsourced.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Every criticism of Obama eventually got to the all he cares about are Muslims.
		He doesn't care about the Christians being persecuted all across the world.
		He's actually paying people to persecute Christians.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so I looked into it a little bit, and I actually found a pretty interesting article because he goes on to, and I can't remember if it's in this clip or a little bit later.
		I think it's here.
		But so he talks about how the UN admits the Christians are the most persecuted group in the world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, they don't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't.
		But I looked into it and I found on UN.org a really interesting article from 2011 that talks about the persecution of Christians.
		And I think that's the only thing he could be going on, making that claim.
		And here, I'll read the headline to you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You are giving him so much credit for imagining that he has read this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The headline.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's read the headline.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, then, yeah, now I'm on board again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Christians, currently most persecuted religious group in the world, Holy See, tells UN.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ah, that's a very different thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The end of the headline changes that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you read the first three quarters of it, it backs him up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But so this guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Christians, most persecuted group in the world says organization that would benefit off of lying about Christians being the most persecuted in the world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Archbishop Dominique Mamberti, the Secretary for Relations with the States and the Holy See, spoke at the UN, and he went on to say that the particular influence of a specific religion in a nation should never imply that citizens belonging to other faiths should be discriminated against in social life or even worse, that violence against them should be tolerated.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like where he's going.
		I like where he's going so far.
		I assume that means an all-inclusive thing where every religion should be protected in the exact same way as Christianity, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that is the point that he's making.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't like the butt that you just threw down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He also threw down this comment on the financial crisis that was going on in the world and throughout the third world, even to this day.
		The Archbishop stressed that the economy cannot only function by market self-regulation and even less in accordance with agreements limited to reconciling the interests of the most powerful.
		Quote, it needs an ethical basis in order to function for humanity, he said, calling any other non-ethical basis ingenuous or cynical and always fatal.
		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Again, absolutely correct.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's almost as correct as Lionel is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But so the only article that he could possibly be pointing to really about the UN and Christianity being super persecuted, if you actually read the article, goes on to say that Christians are persecuted but should not persecute others also.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the free market sucks.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Two very important things to say at this point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex would never want to read the body of that article.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You got persecution in my economics.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So then he goes on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, that does make me think of that.
		Like every religion always pulls that, like, oh, we're getting persecuted.
		I am less interested in how many people are getting persecuted than the net persecution rate.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See what I'm saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, if Christians are persecuting more than getting persecuted, you don't get to count.
		If it's the other way, then everybody cares about you.
		It's an equilibrium.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We want all of it to go away.
sarah huckabee sanders ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We want no persecution.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I'm against it, but at the same time, you know, fuck you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the other thing that he got into there was that like steel, steel production's on the rise.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That cannot be true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It absolutely is true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it has been true every year since like 1950.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
unidentified		If you look at the graphs, it's just a shut up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, then it is on the rise.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can only assume that it's continuing to rise because of Trump's beneficence.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It has nothing to do with Trump.
		It's just like a nature of there's high demand for steel consistently.
		We need it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Literally everything.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Everything he takes credit for has been going on for the past 20 years or more.
unidentified		Absolutely.
unidentified		All of the work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that goes to this other thing that he was saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When he's talking about dry goods and finished goods, he's basically, I think, trying to insinuate what Trump tweeted out the other day about how China is going to start letting us sell things to them again.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is something that's been in the works since 2013, I believe, something like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And started to become finalized September of last year under Beretta.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Under Obama.
unidentified		Yeah, all of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he has all this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is not to say that that's not kind of a common thing that presidents have done for a long, long time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, there's always been enough both blame the previous administration and then, you know, laud your administration.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Scapegoating and glory hunting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		Now, it's never been quite as blatant and constant as Trump.
		He has accomplished absolutely nothing but writing executive orders that will make everyone's life worse.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And get halted in courts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's wasting everyone's time.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's why Alex has got.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's not forget he's wasting time and money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, way more than anyone ever has.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ever, ever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just his fucking, just flying to his fucking wife.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Flying to the bus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just his fucking wife being allowed to live wherever the fuck she wants costs us millions and millions of dollars.
		Her security detail, which why does she have one?
		No one gives a fuck about her.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everyone knows this.
		Let's move on.
		I'm not trying to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, all I'm saying, all I'm saying is get rid of her security details.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because think about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's unfair.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Think about this.
		If she gets kidnapped or threatened, Trump wouldn't care.
		Well, no, but nobody would care.
		I wouldn't care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a good bit, but in truth, I don't think that's a good idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, of course not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, actually, I don't care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Are you being serious?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think I am.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm 50-50.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In that case, I 50-50 disagree with you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because, I mean, she could get hurt.
		Someone could target her, and that's not every first lady gets security details.
		It would be wrong to not give her one.
unidentified		No, I don't care.
unidentified		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, agree to disagree.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A lot of people get hurt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		None of them have security details, and none of them, or most of them, aren't monsters.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We don't know that she is.
		She might be great.
		Anyway, agree to disagree.
		She's probably terrible.
		I agree with you on that point.
		So Alex has got this litany of bullshit that he's doing.
		And then, of course, he gets to at the end what he really wants to talk about, just Keith motherfucking Olberman.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Keith Oberman had put out a video where he sort of says to all of the intelligence agencies around the world that we're in a crisis and the time has come that we need everything to come out in the open because eventually you won't be able to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is going to be too entrenched.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is going to become a thing where time is of the essence.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I am not here to defend Keith Olberman.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Neither am I.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he has a terrible point there, but at the same time, you really open yourself up to attack when you say, hey, foreign agencies, spill the beans on our president.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I know.
		That's kind of the same thing.
		That would be a crazy thing to do.
		It's almost like a goddamn president did it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You open yourself up to that exact argument.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's why I would never defend that argument.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's the interesting thing.
		I do think about this from time to time is what if you tweeted directly to the president, I hope some Second Amendment people take care of you.
		Right?
		You can imply that was a very direct threat.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But if you go to court for it, can't you just be like, he said it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm quoting him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So if you want to prosecute me, that means he's on the prosecution, too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's Mark Dicey.
unidentified		That's Mark Dicey as fuck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's Mark Dice claymation right there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We got to keep moving.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All right, I'm sorry.
unidentified		I'm sorry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm already distracted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm everywhere.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm telling you, this is going to be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's do this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he wants to talk about Keith Oberman, and here we go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I know body language, and I watched it twice.
		Last night and this morning.
		Keith Oberman is completely mentally ill.
		He is mentally ill, and he is dangerous.
		When I yell and scream, it's because I'm angry, but I let myself do it.
		Let me explain the paradox.
		It's not an act, but it is.
		It's how I feel.
		It's actually the dog off the leash.
		With Oberman, he is completely out of control, calling for foreign governments to work with him to overthrow Trump, and then he begs the Russians to take Trump out.
		This is textbook sedition, textbook espionage.
		If I did something like this, I would be arrested within a day, and I should be.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What if the president did something like this?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then I've got so many clips of professors today and yesterday saying kill white people, kill conservatives, kill libertarians, and they've totally normalized it.
		We're not even human.
		And this is the climate.
		They're the danger, not Trump.
		Not libertarians, not Christians, not conservatives.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he doesn't have those clips, and he doesn't get to those stories about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Although, technically, he could probably just grab some of the clips that I've said because I think I'm pretty much there.
unidentified		Professor Jordan is really into white genocide.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or he's at least okay with it.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I think that any clips that they could find would be on that border.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Talking about the experience of African Americans in this country, the idea that some white death is minimal compared to what's happened.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That I could see.
		But anyway, hold on.
		He's making this argument that fucking Olberman is committing treason and espionage.
		Right.
		I don't think most spies go on GQ and put out seven-minute long videos.
		That seems like bad spy work.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It does seem like bad spy work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It seems very overt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It seems like some John Pesobeck, Jack Pasobeck investigation spy work there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wouldn't let him on GQ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's another gentleman.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He should be drawn and quartered, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Recordedly is trying to figure out how to make that pun work.
		So then he goes on and he's like, hey, you know what?
		Conservatives and libertarians aren't the ones who you should be afraid of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Definitely not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this next clip begs to differ.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Journalist is credited with undercoming mass voter fraud.
		Vows to aid Trump probe.
		Project Veritas.
		Trump launches commission to investigate voter fraud.
		That's got him real mad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that does have him real mad because Trump is not going to uncover any voter fraud.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There really isn't any.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not substantial, anyway.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And what that clip is talking about is that James O'Keefe of Project Veritas has come out and said.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was just, I just wrote that down.
		He said journalist.
		He did not say a name, which was like, oh, this is like a Breitbart dude.
		This is like a Pesobic dude.
		This is like bullshit all the way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		James O'Keefe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The guy who's doing like, what, seven years?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he's not in prison.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, one of those guys is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, that was the other.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that was the other people who tried to do it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Planned Parenthood.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Those guys.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, he's been outed as an out-and-out fraud.
		He commits acts of journalistic debauchery.
		Right.
		He has no credibility.
		And the idea that we live in a world where he might be invited into that is incredibly scary.
		And that is a danger to voting rights.
		That absolutely is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is never, ever about uncovering voter fraud.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it is always, always about making sure that people who don't vote for you aren't allowed to vote.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Further disenfranchisement.
unidentified		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the guy who Trump has put on the ball for that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't remember what that department is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Census Bureau?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that guy quit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That guy quit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The director of the national census quit just the other day.
unidentified		He resigned in what?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, would you say, did he resign in quotes or did he resign in protest?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know enough of the details to say, so I wouldn't want to speculate.
		But the guy who's in charge of implementing or looking into these voter fraud issues has been sued over voter rights issues four times COU.
		Yeah, yeah.
		So we're going to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they've won every time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		We're going to get some real good stuff out of this, I think.
		We're going to get to the bottom of what's wrong with our voting system.
		We're going to fix it all.
		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's because 3 million illegals voted in the last election.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Six.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Remember, it's six now?
unidentified		Fuck you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's 10 now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No!
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do I also have detention?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got a Saturday detention.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, not a Saturday detention.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You'll be cleaning the school's windows.
		I don't know.
		Look.
		So Alex Jones has introduced some of his narratives here, mostly that he's super mad, Keith Olberman.
		That is important to remember for later.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's not just like he has these stories he wants to talk about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he's overprepared for this show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's hours and hours and hours.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Overprepared.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's how he always is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is what happens when he's overprepared.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Detroit school to hold Muslim girls only prom.
		Let me tell you something.
		It didn't hundreds of thousands Obama brought in.
		Everywhere I went in Austin yesterday, including a suburb, I went in two shops, a Starbucks, and then I went in a pool supply place.
		And there were like seven people in the Starbucks.
		Three of them were young Muslim girls with hoods over their heads drinking coffee.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You were in the pool supply after school.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Then I went to the pool supply place.
		Same deal.
		And all I'm telling you is, imagine if you were in Saudi Arabia, and in Saudi Arabia, they were walking to stores, and there were Christians and women with lipstick on and high heels everywhere.
		They'd start physically attacking you.
		But here, we're tolerant.
		I'm just saying, we're letting in people in mass that are not tolerant, that are the most oppressive, cult-like people on earth, and it freaks me out.
		You bet I'm freaked out.
		You bet I am.
		I got three dollars, ladies and gentlemen.
		And I don't like it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, wait, he's got three dollars?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, three daughters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Three daughters.
		I thought he said I got three dollars.
		And I was like, well, you know, you're about to be sued.
		You better get some more money.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're going to lose those three.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, we believe you that you're freaked out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, all right.
unidentified		You're showing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know why you're freaked out by young Muslim women drinking coffee at a Starbucks, I don't know, or a pool supply shop.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, they're in the pool.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		His daughters can't buy one of those noodles without Muslims just buying all the noodles.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do like that this could be a new stereotype that these Muslims love to swim.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		These Muslims are swimming everywhere.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't walk outside with them swimming in lakes, in pools, in oceans.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But taking all that fun aside, like, when you talk about Islamophobia, fear of Muslims, he's literally expressing that there.
		There's no other way around it.
		Those women weren't doing anything.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And his, like, oh, these guys are in a very tolerant or anti-tolerant society, and we're very tolerant.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're like, no, you just said you wanted to kick them out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would argue he is incredibly intolerant.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's very close to the people he's making up in Saudi Arabia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they have more in common than he and I do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would definitely argue that his argument about this is an incompatible group of people, there's holes punched in it by the fact that you saw them at a Starbucks and a pool supply shop.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, sounds pretty compatible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it makes sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Three Muslim women are sitting around in a Starbucks drinking coffee.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's what we do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It could not be more compatible unless they opened their own pinata store.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Next to a cash shelter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's under attack by the trendies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I like the idea that the Detroit school is holding a Muslim girls only prom where you're like, wait, so are any dudes invited or is it just a girls having a party?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, I didn't look into that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why would you?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's nothing there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm certain it's not true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is one of these things where sometimes Alex's lies, you're just like, all right, I don't even care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't have the energy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
		Fine.
		Fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's too much going on in this episode and too many important things I had to research.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This one got left by the wayside because it's bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You didn't research that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Did not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am freaked out by that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How many daughters you got?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Eight dollars.
		Wait, no daughters?
		No daughters.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No daughters.
		Okay.
		So in this next clip, Alex Jones, we're going to get through like probably six more clips or so, and then the episode takes a turn that I'm going to give you a spoiler alert on.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think Alex Jones is mad that he is not the press secretary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, that should happen.
		I can't.
		Okay.
		Look, that's bad for democracy.
		That's bad for all of us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But I'll be goddamned if that wouldn't be the funniest thing that's ever happened before.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He'd last a day before he was in the bush.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, there's no way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He would punch somebody in the press pool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, he talks about all these trendies and false intellectuals and stuff like that.
		And that's easy to do when your audience are idiots and you're alone on your show or you're only talking to people who have the same dumbass globalist mentality that you do.
		It's super easy.
		Or Eddie Bravo is your guest.
		It's fucking simple.
		Like, when you have to sit down and have the scrutiny of the incredibly meticulous and intelligent press, he would be fucked.
		They would tear him apart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's not give them that much credit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And also.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If he sat down with that fucking Charlie Warzel for a while.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, he would be murderized.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would be a disaster.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But the press pool is so far not really doing too much for us, considering they're being soundly defeated by the likes of Huckabee and Spicer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're not being defeated so much as they are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like, come on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is my favorite buddy cop comedy.
		One of them is a beekeeper, the other one keeps spices.
		It's an amazing show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, Alex Jones.
		See, there's this interesting thing that's starting to come into the mainstream understanding, or people are starting to talk about it, and people are starting to understand the idea of Russian active measures.
		There are propaganda tools that Russians use.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		These narratives and talking points that are pushed out on Sputnik and RT in particular.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Both of those networks are state-run, state-owned.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They are the InfoWars, but if it was all of the media.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, and they push out narratives, and the idea that there are certain outlets in the United States that mirror those are what people are mostly concerned about.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When people talk about fake news, a lot of it is that.
		That's what they're talking about.
		Right.
		Someone who has been on InfoWars in the recent past, former CIA agent Larry C. Johnson.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The four most discredited CIA agents that's ever been on InfoWars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Possibly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, yeah, he is someone who is incredibly guilty of appearing on Sputnik and RT and then taking talking points that are germane and originate on those networks and trying to proliferate them in U.S. media.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he has done so on Alex Jones' show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The idea that GCHQ, the British intelligence agency, was spying on Trump on behalf of Obama is a Russian active measure narrative.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, do you think he's being paid to spread these lies by the Russian propaganda machine?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or is he just on board?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's being paid in as much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, he's always been not beholden to the truth, but he's being paid in as much as he is paid to appear on those networks and he's banned from American networks.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So there's that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is being paid to.
		But why would you bring that back to the States unless you were.
		Well, if he's consistently going on these shows, then I assume part of his verbal contract is spread it everywhere you go.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Possibly.
		I'm not.
		I don't know.
		I have no evidence that he's a paid agent or anything like that.
		And we have documentation in the past of him just being an idiot.
unidentified		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he might just believe dumb shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's possible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he is duped by this Russian propaganda and brings it over to Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The reason I wanted to lay this out and explain it is in this next clip, Alex is just straight up repeating Russian propaganda.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's just laying out Russian propaganda.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is really hard to accept.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's something that you realize he has been doing a lot of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He has.
		No, I know that part.
		But the idea that you are, like, you are so desperate for any information that supports your bullshit that you will accept propaganda from a different country boggles my mind.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, if you believe that Russia is one of the only countries that's not still in the grips of the globalists, it kind of makes sense that you would see whatever their propaganda is as maybe the real truth as opposed to the fake news media here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I can see that as well.
		If you believe that all U.S. media is fake news propaganda, then why wouldn't you believe that their fake news propaganda made sense?
		It's a topsy-turvy world.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, anyway, here we go.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		By the way, the media has this firestorm going right now that Trump admits that the Russian probe was part of Comey firing.
		That's because he's being honest.
		He said, Yeah, it's his flip-flopping, him thinking he's the boss.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's why it's a problem.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's him not investigating Susan Rice and her leaks, and how he's been spied on and saying that the president is crazy that he's being spied on, but it's come out he was being spied on.
		He wasn't!
		That's outrageous to have the FBI director saying that about anybody that's above him in the chain of command.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's not above him in the chain of command!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He got nauseous that he may have helped Trump win, all this other crap.
		And Trump goes on top of it.
		It's a whole Democrat narrative made up that I'm with the Russians.
		They lost the election.
		That's why they're upset.
		They lost in the Electoral College, which is very hard to do, and gerrymandered towards them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is hard to lose in the election.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then they spin it.
		Oh, he's flip-flopping.
		No, there's a lot of reasons Comey got axed, and Trump is tweeting out all these videos, some of which we've produced, showing the Democrats saying get rid of him up to last week.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the parts of that that are really important are the idea that almost all of those points are just like regurgitated Russian shit.
		The idea that the election was faked or there's questions about the integrity of the elections is just hurt feelings.
		The fact that the idea that Russian probe stuff is just, yeah, just because the Democrats lost and sour grapes.
		Yep.
		The idea that Trump was wiretapped.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He wasn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The idea that Susan Rice is responsible for leaks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She fucking wasn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The idea that Comey said that the president was crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He didn't say that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the idea was crazy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He didn't say that he was crazy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then even beyond that, I mean, this isn't necessarily like a Russian regurgitation, but the idea that Comey was disgusted or nauseated by the fact that he had helped Trump is a horrible misrepresentation of his comments.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What he was talking about was that he felt nauseous that he had had an effect on the election.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he is an apolitical figure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or is supposed to be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
		The office is apolitical.
		And the idea that his actions had caused an effect on the election nauseated him, not that he had helped Trump.
		That's bullshit.
		And Alex is being a complete idiot.
		But the rest of that stuff is just active measures.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The thing that is so dangerous that's going through the conservative propaganda machine right now is the idea that it's fine to fire him because he should be subservient to you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is like saying it's fine for me to not be beholden to any laws whatsoever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like that's that is the number one issue right now with the firing of James Comey is that if that like he's and he said it like even Alex Jones was like, yeah, he was being honest about committing a crime.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		About wanting this investigation to go away.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so I can relate.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If I was Trump, I would want it to go away too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That would be very bad for me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But again, the DOJ should be independent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The FBI should be independent.
		Like all of these things are, again, checks and balances that no longer exist.
		Like as long as there is a GOP-controlled Congress that is absolutely willing to obstruct every single possible avenue, then there is no checks and balances.
unidentified		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Our system is broken.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the checks and balances are really what creates the safeguard of freedom.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And this is why we're taking Alex to Liberty School.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		To Liberty School.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But beyond that, and we're going to get back to this because one of the big things that he started talking about there, and it comes back up over and over again, is the idea that Democrats wanted Comey to be fired in the past, and now they're mad that he got fired.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we talked about it on the last episode, but that's just reductive thinking.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Both can be true at the same time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		He's mischaracterizing what's going on.
		Of course, they wanted him fired in the past.
		And actually, they didn't want him fired.
		Every single example that he brings up is Democrats or Bernie Sanders, who he just throws in as a Democrat, saying that he probably should resign.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They aren't saying he should be fired.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because even back then, if he was fired, it would be pretty fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It would be way more reasonable, but it would be fucked up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It would still be fucked up if Hillary fired him.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because if Hillary fired him, then it looks like a complete.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's vindictive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		It's like retaliatory, and that's not what you want from your president.
		You don't want somebody who's going to consistently flout the rule of law.
		It's a bad idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, and there's the next clip, Alex spins a very, very bizarre metaphor that I'm not entirely sure the point of, but then gets on some bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love him spinning bizarre metaphors.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Trump got caught flip-flopping and giving different stories.
		Like he's a teenage kid caught breaking into a liquor store at 2 in the morning, and the cops catch him with a bag of cash and three bottles of whiskey.
		And he says, oh, my dad works there.
		Oh, I own the liquor store.
		Oh, I found this money on the side of the street.
		But that's not what's happening in an interview with no notes.
		The president's like, yeah, he's flip-flopping everywhere.
		He won't investigate leaks.
		He's not doing a very good job.
		And this whole Russian thing is completely made up, and I'm sick of it.
		And he told me I'm not under investigation three times.
		He goes on to say the Russians must really be laughing at us.
		This is idiotic.
		Why don't you investigate the Clintons?
		Why don't you look at how they're involved with the Russians and the uranium deal?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whoops.
		He just won't get off it.
		He's not looked into it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's all he's got.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's all he's got.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's super insane to me.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not just that, but literally, the Russians are laughing at us.
		They did it on national TV.
		The guy was like, oh, is he fired?
		That's crazy.
		That's something we would do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Lavarov coming in and just cucking us out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		From the White House.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which, if I was in his shoes, it's fucking hilarious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The problem is we're in our shoes where it's a constitutional crisis.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the thing that makes it even more scary is that clip of the foreign minister Lavarov being like, oh, you fired the FBI director?
unidentified		You kidding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That sort of thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It implies that they don't care if we know they did this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why would they?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I think that because if it does come out that they tampered in our election this severely, we have to fucking kill all of them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is well.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's an act of war.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is an act of war, which is why I assume the investigation is taking so long.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not because the evidence isn't found, but because they need to provide the evidence in such a way that we can acknowledge this, correct it, and still maintain the Cold War instead of the right one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I totally agree with you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, that has to be the only reason that all of this stuff is delayed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because there's no other explanation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because if any of it touches Trump, it's war.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is probably, you're probably right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why it's taking so long is because if it just was like Manafort, just Roger Stone, those investigations would not be that difficult to do.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You could just be like, all right, this is fucked up.
		You're now a sitting duck president.
		Just the guys that would be fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just the guys who retroactively registered as foreign agents more than enough to be like, hey, you probably committed a crime.
		We're going to investigate it.
		Oh, it took us two seconds to find a crime because you tweeted it at them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And they paid you with PayPal.
		Like, that's how obvious this shit has to be.
		Like, you use Venmo and there has to be a power.
		Yeah, exactly.
		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have to leave a note.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We used Google Wallet to pay for it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, of course, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, that is a super specific simile of the guy being like, yeah, you go into a liquor store and you got a bag of cash and three bottles of whiskey and you're like, wait, that sounds like something you might have done.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did you do that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Turn over a liquor store?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		What's going on here?
		Do you know what?
		Did your buddy do that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, I just posted this the other day to the knowledgefight.com growing biography of Alex Jones.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He actually got kicked out of school for a year.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, when he was 15 or 16, he had to go spend a year on, quote, the ranch because he was fighting it too much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So go check that out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, if only it was the ranch that all dogs go to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so you can go check that out on knowledgefight.com.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		To spend a year on the ranch is my favorite euphemism.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's great.
		So this next clip, he yells a bit.
		It's fun.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Russia ties made up.
		Yeah.
		And then we know they wouldn't investigate them for their ties that are confirmed because homey, his deputy directors, all of a bunch of Democrats.
		Give money to the Democrats.
		They're disgusting.
		They all got put in power by Obama.
		Obama!
		And if you don't know that Obama broke the law and got rid of our borders and did whatever he wanted and sold out our jobs and created ISIS, and if you don't know that's treason, you don't know what it is.
		And the word is like 85% of the FBI absolutely knows what's going on, but it's the top is eight years of Democrat rats.
		And Bush was a globalist as well.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sure, why not?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So God help our country.
		We need to just clean house, people.
		Boy, if Trump's a Russian agent, we need more liking, right?
		Our military, our sovereignty, our jobs.
		Give me a break.
unidentified		That's what we call equivocation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If Trump's a Russian agent, we need more Russian.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's just call it.
unidentified		Let's just call it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Putin owns us now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why not?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Fine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fine.
		We're part of Russia now.
		Whatever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, fuck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's called normalization.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		Exactly.
		That's super fucked up.
		And then beyond that, he's legitimately expressing a desire to unilaterally clean a house.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which would be a culling of people who disagree with you, which is a coup.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's normal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that's a.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		When you have a government with clear separation of powers, what you want is a single ideology in control of every single one of those acting in lockstep.
		That's normal.
unidentified		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's exactly what you want.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You want zero disagreement.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's how you get things done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Kings.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember why this country was started?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To make more kings.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The first draft of the Constitution was, eh, just let a king do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, who cares?
		You know what else?
		You know what I realized recently?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The actual idea of globalists being in charge of everything that Alex sells in order to pitch his bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is literally a false flag.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you know where the term comes from?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The term is a nautical term where you would put up your enemy's flag on your ship so people would think your enemy was approaching.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you would attack yourself.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it would make it to appear that this enemy was there, and it would be to gain sympathy or create the conditions that you're looking for.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The idea that he says think about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The idea that he says that a New York Federal Reserve Board member is suing him when that guy is not a member of the New York Federal Reserve.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is a false flag.
		He's putting that flag on Hamdi Ulakaya's ship.
		And that's not true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is a really good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's doing that to create sympathy in the people who already are like, I hate the Federal Reserve.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's using false flag sort of ideology and tactics.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the only false flags that he's right about are the ones he's actually committing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, even saying that George Soros is a Nazi collaborator is a false flag.
unidentified		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's literally putting a flag on George Soros' ship that's not true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even saying that all Democrats are Russian agents as well, or whatever the fuck is going on there.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's interesting.
		I mean, it does just go into that he's doing exactly the opposite of what he says.
		So we've already seen in this episode overt Islamophobia, some weirdness.
		Now, how about we try?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Borderline treason.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How about we try on a little sexism?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, great.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, Spicer's done some good work, but he's been like a deer in the headlights, so he's been replaced the last few days with Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who isn't as good looking as a Guilfoyle, but I got to tell you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck?
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How can you pull that shit?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's pretty impressive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, because he's an idiot.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He thinks he's complimenting her by saying at the end she's really sharp.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is, I guess.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, that's a compliment, but he literally started the first thing he said about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
		That's fucking.
		That is the patriarchy in a nutshell.
		Like, that's like, hey, look at how well she did for herself.
		And she's a woman.
		Did you know that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's mindless and flippant.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just thrown like, hey, who cares?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no.
		It's normal for me to judge women by their appearance.
		That's what their value is based on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if you told him, like, hey, that's weird, you said that, he would get mad at you and think that you're a pussy snowflake.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, and that's because, in his mind, he was giving her the highest compliment.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If she was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're great and you're not even hot.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		How can you do that?
		It's like a gorilla that knows how to speak sign language.
		Like, that might as well be his metaphor there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He played a video of her on the show, and we're going to get into it now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		See, again, listening, not seeing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, and she has a nice down-home country voice.
unidentified		That's for sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait, is she related to Mike Huckabee?
unidentified		Oh, boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
		She's actually the love child of Mike Huckabee and Bernie Sanders.
		I should have said Colonel Sanders.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I should have fucking said Colonel Sanders.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll never forgive myself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Bernie would be much better at the press conference situation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex, this is where we begin.
		Alex wants to be in the press corps narrative or the press secretary.
		Here is the beginning of his analysis of this press conference.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go ahead now and get to this clip where she annihilates this guy.
		Sarah Sanders exposes hypocritical Democrat relationship to Comey was fired.
		This is from yesterday.
		Here it is.
unidentified		I asked you directly yesterday if the president had already decided to fire James Comey when he met with the Deputy Attorney General, Attorney General.
		And you said no.
		Also, the Vice President of the United States said directly that the president acted to take the recommendation of the Deputy Attorney General to remove the FBI director.
		Sean Spicer said directly it was all him remeeting the deputy attorney general.
		Now we learn from the president directly that he had already decided to fire James Comey.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So why were so many people giving answers to just yeah, don't let him let's back that up five seconds, please.
		It's called a consensus of 12 people and then they agree.
		It's not that they're all even agreeing for the same reasons.
		They all have different reasons overall, but together it's called a consensus.
		A consensus that the mainstream media are liars.
		A consensus that they're elitist, that they have to stand for the American people.
		A consensus that you can't be trusted.
		A consensus that you're hacks.
		A consensus that you're slime.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's just getting abused.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a consensus that you're a dog.
		A consensus that you're a cat.
		A consensus that you're a brat.
		A consensus that there are two eggs.
		They're a consensus that it's green eggs.
		It's a consensus that it's green ham.
		It's a consensus that it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Your point is made.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was wondering how long I could keep going.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was trying to find somewhere.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, you always got to go to children's books.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he's just getting abusive about the press there, which is fun.
		And I know that's super fun.
		But the idea of him playing this clip is really to the name of the article that he posted this is about Sarah Huckabee Sanders, who we've now learned is Mike Huckabee's daughter.
unidentified		His actual daughter is that is fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She's way more competent than him, though, except at play in the base.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But be that as it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We don't know that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not confirmed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She might be great at that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not confirmed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the idea of him playing this is to demonstrate that she's great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like that's supposed to be.
		And before we can even get to her response, he's got to cut it off.
		And he's got to respond.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's time for a man to do some talking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because she's not attractive enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now the other thing that's interesting is he's not at all understanding what this journalist's question is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not even close.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The guy is asking him, well, he's asking Sanders.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not asking fucking Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody's asking Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's asking her why is there a discrepancy between what was said before and what the president said.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The president said he had made up his mind long before, and here's multiple instances of people within the White House saying that it was all because of this deputy attorney general.
unidentified		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So why is that the case?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex saying, there's consensus.
		Do you not understand?
		Like, there's absolutely not consensus.
		Well, clearly, that's the opposite of consensus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, what he's trying to, what he's trying to do is say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you mean Alex?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What Alex?
		Yeah.
		What Alex is trying to do is say that just because they both wanted to do it, it doesn't matter when Trump said he did it or the like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The question, though, is why is it that everyone pointed all the blame towards this guy?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then Trump said it was all his decision.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So those two can't exist in the same time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not a consensus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Kind of the question, if you really want to distill it down to normal language, is the fuck's going on here?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or why are you so bad at scapegoating?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, you had a fall guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All you had to do was say it was his fault.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, or why couldn't Trump keep his goddamn mouth shut?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, why isn't someone advising him to just, well, actually, probably it's because the Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein said he was going to quit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He did not recommend them fire.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but the idea I think we all understand what's really going on.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is that that was the narrative that was going to go down, and then they realized, oh, fuck, there's going to be trouble here.
unidentified		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because Rosenstein will quit, and then Sessions is recused.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The fuck are we going to do?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		And so they're like, I'd made the situation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sessions is in heavy scare quotes recused.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
		And he also, I've been reading up on it.
		He might have put himself in the hopper by writing that letter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the fact that he wrote a memo about the person who was conducting the Russia investigation means that he was from.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He might have his law legal license taken away.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He has put himself in jeopardy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What a dream.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it requires it actually being.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Imagine that the Attorney General is not allowed to practice law.
		God.
		We're going to need to take this before the Supreme Court.
		Call the.
		Oh, fuck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What do we do?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who do we.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, Rosenstein quit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Paul Yates.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She's not answering our call.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, for some reason, she's not a big fan of ours.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it goes on, and we'll eventually.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God, we're going to eventually have Trump's own law firm just as the one that was named Russia's Law Firm.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Russia's Law Firm of the Year.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it represents Ross Met.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want that law firm writing a certified letter that you have nothing to do with Russia.
unidentified		It just doesn't get more bald-faced than this.
unidentified		Like, it is all so complicit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's so bald-faced.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or it's next-level trolling.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It has to be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It could be like they're sitting around, like, all right, we have nothing to do with Russia.
		It would really drive people crazy if we use one of their law firms.
		I don't think it's that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How is it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think it's that, but it would be hilarious.
unidentified		How are they so fucking obvious with this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And we still.
unidentified		It's because we have the most worthless Congress in history.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's part of it.
		They do.
		And they know full well that most of the elections that go on in the midterms aren't going to be fair, probably.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, of course not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They feel safe in there just putting their balls in our face.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But anyway, this clip goes on of the press conference, and we get to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that Huckabee Sanders comes in yet in this next clip either.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do we get to hear her voice?
unidentified		We do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the next clip, we'll get to her for sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can I guess how many words of hers we get to hear?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because you'll be wrong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So days after they come out and say there were recommendations on and on, he says, yeah, there were recommendations, but I had my own reasons as well.
		To end, that's him being genuine.
		Something you try to twist.
		Something you tried to misrepresent.
		Because Trump's not a lawyer.
		Not playing lawyer games.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he's obstructing justice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Opposite of lawyer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that's a very bad lawyer game.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, like, but what he's trying to do there is trying to say that you guys are just trying to catch a man in a semantic trap.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's not what they're doing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They have a legitimate question, which is, what's the problem?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did you commit a crime?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but even beyond that, what the fuck is going on here?
		We would like to be able to report this accurately, but there is an inconsistency here.
		We're trying to get to the bottom of it.
		It ain't a lawyer game.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Lawyer games are like, I don't know, parcheesi.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Seems like a high-class game, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would go with Settlers of Catan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or Bridge.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Resource management.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right, fine.
unidentified		Fair enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So it really has turned, like, the White House is very much a prisoner's dilemma.
		Like, if I was investigating them like a straight-up cop, right?
		You have three different possible perpetrators, all of them in different interrogation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, now you've got a really interesting prisoner's dilemma because you got three of them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		But that's kind of the issue: there's so many competing motivations here.
		Like, Paul Ryan just wants his fucking tax cuts.
		Like, he's willing to end America just so he can get rich people tax cuts, right?
		He wants to end Medicaid.
		That's his main goal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's been dreaming about it since those Kagers in college.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which fucking wow.
		But yeah, so that's all he wants, right?
		Trump just wants Trump to be richer and more famous.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Trump just wants Trump.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		Trump wants it to be the Trump United States of America.
		And then you have all of the other players, all of them just like trying to maintain some semblance of power.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or probably massive wealth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because, you know, if the stuff that was in that dossier that came out, the dirty dossier.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If some of the stuff that was in there is true, people like Paul Manafort, people like Carter Page, Roger Stone stood to gain billions of dollars from that 10%.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Maybe not billions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's a trillion-dollar deal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Holy shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they had like 20% of it or something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Holy double shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was a 19% stake in the third, like, I can't remember the precise figure, but it's in the trillions of dollars.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, then they stood to gain billions of dollars.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, because it has to do with the fucking embargoes on oil in Russia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The expansive oil fields that they're not using because they can't.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So opening that up would stand to make people like Rex Tillerson and the conspirators tons of money.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that makes sense as a motivation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's very simple.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So now you have all three of these different parties giving completely different stories.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Narcissism, power hungry, and tax money hungry, and lust for money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So your job as an investigator then is try and get them to turn on each other.
		And that's the prisoner's dilemma there: the only way they all win is if they all tell the same story.
unidentified		True.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And since none of them can do that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And we're seeing an inability to tell the same story.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A complete just meltdown.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And like, not even similar stories.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, legit, if this was Russia, Carter Page would be dead.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He would not be still going on television.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So many people would just be like, they would just solve the problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That guy is unlucky.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Odd how that journalist got shot in the forehead on Trump's birthday.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Super weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this next week, we finally get to Huckabee Sanders coming in and giving her response to this question.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go back to her response.
unidentified		Fire, James Comey.
		So why were so many people giving answers that just weren't correct?
		Were you guys in the dark?
		Was the vice president misled again?
sarah huckabee sanders ▲ ● ▼		I know you'd love to report that we were misled and we want to create.
		Hold on, Jonathan.
		I let you finish and read off every single one of those statements.
		So unless you want to trade places, I think it's my turn now.
		I think it's pretty simple.
		I hadn't had a chance to have the conversation directly with the president to say I'd had several conversations with him, but I didn't ask that question directly.
		Had you already made that decision?
		I went off of the information that I had when I answered your question.
		I've since had the conversation with him right before I walked on today.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		At this point, her answer is good.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is not we were misled.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's that I personally was ignorant.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So you can't hold me accountable because I just didn't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Good answer.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It doesn't take into account Spicer and all the other people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, she's doing a great job as the press secretary.
		She's already not fumbled at all.
		She's not said anything embarrassing like Spicer.
		I agree with Ellen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She hasn't gotten angry and run away like Spicer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She's way better at that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah.
		She is great.
		And not just that, but she turned it into a question about her.
		Right.
		Not a question that he asked.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Perfect.
unidentified		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And because there's that minor little bit of taking responsibility for something that isn't really that bad, it deflects from the fact that the question is about something that is pretty bad.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know, and that's that's brilliant.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a really good rhetorical trick.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I. Which is why, again, I told you, don't give too much credit to our press corps.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I respect the hell out of her answer at this point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It gets worse.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It gets worse.
unidentified		Great.
sarah huckabee sanders ▲ ● ▼		And he laid it out very clearly.
		He had already made that decision.
		He'd been thinking about it for months, which I did say yesterday and have said many times since.
		And Wednesday.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Back it up again.
		Five seconds.
		He went on TV two days after he was sworn in with his wife and said, I don't know if I'm going to keep coming.
		We may get rid of him.
		He's done some weird stuff.
		And then later, he just did so much weird things like going on TV and saying the president made him nauseous that he might have helped get him elected.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Didn't say that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Mildly nauseous.
		And that he also thought that Trump was crazy, that Obama was wiretapping him when it was in the front page of the New York Times, the Washington Post, you name it, that Obama was wiretapping him.
		And then you think we're so stupid and don't have a memory, you come back and say you never were wiretapping him because there's nothing in the wiretaps.
		As the head of the intelligence committee has said in the House, because he's read the transcripts, there's no treason.
		There's no collusion.
		There's nothing with the Russians.
		Nothing.
		But setting up meetings with them.
		That's normal.
		And then they finally have Lavrov, the foreign minister, and the...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You gave up!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ambassador to the United States from Russia in a meeting, and they turned that into a giant conspiracy theory and said that Trump's helping him plant listening devices in the Oval Office.
		That's how crazy these people are.
		Let's go back to it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To that last point, no one's saying that Trump was helping them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They were just saying this is a dangerous situation to have people with recording devices in the Oval Office from a hostile state.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's really more of the point they were making.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Usually pretty bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't think he totally gave up the game, as you have indicated.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even in his defense, he was like, yeah, he set up meetings that legally he wasn't allowed to do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, his argument.
		Well, yeah, I mean, that is kind of dicey.
		It's a little dicey.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's illegal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But his argument is that Mike Flynn, whenever he was talking to Kislyak, was just saying, hey, man, President's going to meet with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why he had to call him multiple times to say that.
unidentified		Hey, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just so you know, we're still on for five at Friday.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Same day that Obama put sanctions and kicked a bunch of spies out of the country.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Flynn had to call a couple times to be like, hey, Trump's going to meet with you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't worry about it.
		We're going to have a meeting.
		We're going to have a meeting.
		I'm definitely not revealing foreign policy that I shouldn't be revealing at this time.
		No, we're going to have a meeting.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I swear I have not yet registered as a foreign agent.
unidentified		Don't worry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, don't worry.
		No one will know.
		We are so secretive.
		He might as well have had a bullhorn next to his walkie-talkie.
		He was so transparent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but all of that, all of that shit is, first of all, he interrupts her, which is rude.
		I'm being petty.
		But like, he couldn't let the clip play out and actually give her answer because he had to jump in with his answer.
		Right.
		Which, I mean, it's just, of course, he wants to be in there.
		He wants to be in there so bad yelling at these journalists.
		It's just he's hungry for the game.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You are right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He wants to yell at them himself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No one would ever let him there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I didn't, like, that is something.
		Even you said that at the beginning, but I just didn't pick up on it right there.
		But yeah, he wants to be there answering those questions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he would answer them so much more harshly.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And so much better.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So much better than any unattractive woman ever could.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would defend Trump so much better than you are.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That sort of thing.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's pathetic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the other thing is also.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, I think she's not spending exactly the narrative that he wants to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So he's kind of cutting her off there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In order to equivocate the two.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Around people who know facts, he couldn't spend those narratives.
		No.
		Because you couldn't yell at people about how the Washington Post and New York Times reported that Trump was wiretapped.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They reported that Trump said Trump was wiretapped.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or they had a headline that Trump Tower associates of his might have been wiretapped.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's the headline, and then the body of the article spells it out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is not true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So everyone would just be like, stop referencing headlines.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You don't read anything.
		You don't know.
		I mean, that's why he couldn't have the job.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But because our dreams can't come true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that would be so great.
unidentified		Oh, God.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in this next clip, we get even further insight that Alex wants to be in the fray.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's just so clear.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go back to it.
sarah huckabee sanders ▲ ● ▼		Yesterday, and have said many times since, and Wednesday, I think, was the final straw that pushed him.
		And the recommendation that he got from the Deputy Attorney General just further solidified his decision.
		And again, I think reaffirmed that he made the right one.
unidentified		Was the vice president in the dark too?
unidentified		Was the vice president in the dark tube?
sarah huckabee sanders ▲ ● ▼		Nobody was in the dark, Jonathan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You were.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, I just said you were.
		When the president finally did a TV interview, he laid out the truth that he was sick of him, that the guy was waffling all over the place, that the Democrats couldn't stand him.
		That he said when he first got into office, he might get rid of him.
		And that he got recommended on top of what he'd already made the decision.
		He's the president.
		So notice the guy goes back to the talking point.
		Oh, so you were kept in the dark.
		Oh, you were misled.
		When she just said she wasn't.
		They just keep coming back with their lies.
		That's why they're hated.
		It's why they're disdained.
		It's why they're disgusting.
		So let's go back to this little man.
		Here it is.
unidentified		The vice president in the dark tube.
sarah huckabee sanders ▲ ● ▼		Little man.
		Nobody was going to be in the dart, Jonathan.
		You want to create this false narrative.
		If we want to talk about contradicting statements and people that were maybe in the dark, how about the Democrats?
		Let's read a few of them.
		You want to talk about them?
		Here's what Democrats said not long ago about Comey.
		Harry didn't answer the question.
		He was investigated by the Senate.
		Senator Chuck Schumer said, I don't have confidence in him any longer.
		Senator Bernie Sanders said it would not be a bad thing for the American people if Comey resigned.
unidentified		That's a very different thing to say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so that just goes on for a while.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's sort of what I'm talking about when I say that her answer doesn't stay good.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like you said, she's not answering the question, but she's doing a really good job of moving the target.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is the job, kind of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She's crushing it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look over here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look over here.
unidentified		Look at her.
unidentified		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And she has, like, she prepared.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She came with all of those fucking Democrat quotes.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, she's on it for sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Unlike all the times that they've showed up with manila folders and just filled with blank papers.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		She actually wrote shit down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, which is great.
		Yeah.
		But then on top of that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They stumbled onto competency.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would love to be able to be there myself as a journalist to give a rebuttal.
unidentified		Like, now, now, hold on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Those quotes from Democrats are old, by and large.
		They're months old and they're talking about a different circumstance.
		It's not fair to use those as evidence in this context.
		But I mean, at the same time, like I'm saying, it's pro.
		It's pro shit.
		She's being a press sex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's a shitty argument with your family.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the real problem.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because you ask a question, like, hey, is this true?
		And they're like, well, this is true.
		And you're like, no, no, no, no.
		Answer the question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hillary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I asked you a question.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You answer that question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hillary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's how conversations happen.
unidentified		Hillary.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If I talk to you, you talk back to me.
		And we share it.
		God damn it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That hurt my throat.
		So Alex comes back after she gets done with her answer.
		It just goes on.
		She quotes a ton more Democrats.
		And here is his summation.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Wow, she's good.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Better than Spicer.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Agreed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Put her brain in the brain of the Fox Info.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		No, they're both super smart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Holy fucking what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What a goddamn prick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a pile of shit.
unidentified		This is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He bookended the entire thing with comments about how she's not hot enough for it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which is insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Put this very smart girl's brain into a hot girl, and now we're talking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's degrading.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Super degrading.
		Yeah.
		God, imagine if you took Alex's brain and put it into the brain case of a fucking dog.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A brain case.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He shut the fuck up.
		A brain case.
		He just saw Ghost in the Shell.
		That's fine.
		I'm on board with that.
		I'm on board with that.
		He saw Ghost of the Shell.
		It wasn't a great movie.
		I wish they had chosen an Asian woman, but what are you going to do?
		What are you going to do?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So he gets done with this breakdown of this press briefing.
		And we now enter what will be the rest of this episode.
		He comes back from break and he starts breaking down this Keith Olberman clip.
		Ah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad we got off of his rampant misogyny.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is, but he's no less dumb in this part.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He skips breaks and does 35 minutes straight on a seven-minute clip from Keith Olbermann.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's at our level of delving into a seven-minute clip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he's lacking a little bit of information, context, any insight.
		He's just mad.
		He's just screaming throughout all of it.
		He hates Keith Olbermann with a fiery passion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would say that is like hates like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Keith Olbermann is definitely that similar style of alpha male yelling kind of thing going on there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he's the one that the trendies like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of like Alex Jones is some sort of outcast at the media high school.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Keith Olberman is the cool quarterback.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, that is exactly what it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he wants to be the cool quarterback.
		Instead, he's the fucking lineman.
		He doesn't get anything.
		He doesn't get any accolades for being the left guard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's because Alex Jones is beefy.
		He can't move like a quarterback.
		But also, it's not even really fair, that assessment, because Jake Tapper is maybe the quarterback or something like that.
unidentified		If you want to go mainstream media, Jake Tapper is a pussy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if you want to go mainstream media, he's kind of like a big guy on CNN.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is he?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't watch any of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You could even make an argument that Sean Hannity is the quarterback.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sean Hannity's a prick, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he is a highly rated show on the number one cable news network on Fox.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No wonder we're dying as a cat.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No wonder we're dying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think the accurate metaphor is that Alex Jones is an outcast and there's a cooler outcast.
		Keith Olberman is still on the fringe.
		He's on GQ.
		That is not a news network.
		He puts out videos online.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They put a lot of in-depth interviews.
		Like, here's the thing that I love.
		Recently, Teen Vogue has been doing some of their best.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Duke is killing it.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They've been doing great work.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we're entering.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So why not, GQ?
		Is my point there?
		Why not?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
		But you can't take aim at Keith Olberman as being like a news golden boy when he's on Gentleman's Quarterly.
		You know, like it's a fashion magazine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He did a photo shoot for Maxim, too.
		So it's all good.
		Great.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You understand what I'm saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's misplacing a lot of his anger.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's mostly, I think, as we're going to explore throughout this maybe too thorough investigation of Alex's investigation of this clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, I like how we're going to double down.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is mad at himself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And he's yelling.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So are we going to do a lot of projecting here?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's what I meant.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is mad at Keith for embodying things that he feels he's lacking.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or things that he is self-conscious that he does.
		Right.
		And like I said up top.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's almost more like you're stealing my style, bro.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, because he does that with Glenn Beck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		As far as what I was saying up top, I'm not defending Keith Olbermann.
		I think he has his issues.
		I think he is a way better journalist and a way better presenter than Alex in terms of being a professional.
		He does yell a little bit, but it is way more controlled than Alex.
		So when he's talking about, this guy is off the chain.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I let myself leave that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's mentally ill.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's lunacy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		But he got to keep his own children.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not hoping.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't even know if he has kids.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not defending Keith Olbermann.
		I am only in so much as I side with him over Alex.
		So here we go.
		Let's get into the introduction here.
		And this clip I've labeled all capital letters, lots of projection.
		This is just all projection.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Ladies and gentlemen, I don't know where to begin.
		Remember a few months ago when Oberman said that our country has been taken over by the Russians?
		Remember, he said that this is Russian scum.
		He is a Russian agent.
		We are now at war with Russia.
		Russia scum!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Mom!
unidentified		And then it's almost like we've been taken over by the globalists!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		GQ.
		And you look at his eyes.
		If you're a radio listener, go to Infowars.com.
		We have the video posted.
		He looks like he's completely mentally ill and like he's completely scared and like he's this five-year-old young boy who's afraid that Krusty the Clown's coming to kill him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sounds like someone we know.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then he calls for foreign governments, including Russia to take Trump out.
		Because now Russian maddest knows how evil he is.
		And then here's Trump weathering the storm, restoring our republic, getting our jobs back, getting Obamacare repealed in the House, just over-delivering.
		Total stalwart, totally in control, totally slick.
		And it's like, he's crazy.
		He's evil.
		He's bad.
		The whole world's in danger.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's crazy.
		He's bad.
		The whole world is in danger.
		I don't know where I've heard things like that before.
		Could you think of anybody who has said something similar to that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Krusty the Clown.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Why did you pick Krusty the Clown?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's totally insane, considering one of his close associates was the person who was trying to kill him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, that, like, he is mentally ill.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You see it in his eyes.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He looks scared.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He looks like a five-year-old boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All of that is Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A five-year-old boy who's been kicked off of his mother's lap and told you don't get love no more.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because you want to be a man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A five-year-old boy who stuck up a liquor store with a bag of cash and two bottles of yes.
unidentified		My dad runs a liquor store.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I love his propensity for picking appearance and body language.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's always got to be like, look at him.
		Don't listen to him.
		Look at him.
		Look at Trump.
		Look at how slick he is.
		Look at how his hair always turns.
		Yeah, exactly.
		Don't engage with his thoughts or his opinions or his research or anything like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's the thing Alex can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, of course not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's too in-depth.
		It's too hard for him.
		I would say within this 35-minute clip, Alex Jones hits most of his greatest hits of lies.
		And also comes in with some new ones that I'm going to debunk along the way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he sings American Pie also, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		God damn it, I wish he had.
unidentified		No, he's.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how to put a finer point on this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's so busted.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's just mad at himself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But one of the arguments that he makes is so absurd.
		It undercuts Alex Jones' entire philosophy.
		In attempting to attack fucking Keith Olbermann, he is attacking himself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, when you punch a mirror, your hands is fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So let's get to this next clip so we can move this along because like I said, there's like 23 clips.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus Christ.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He yelled for 35 minutes about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a good point.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this next one is about Trump's accomplishments.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Many, varied, over-delivered accomplishments.
		So many accomplishments.
		You're tired of accomplishing things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sick of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're going to get sick of accomplishing things.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is mental illness, but it's more than that.
		It's called espionage.
		It's called treason.
		It's called aiding a foreign power to carry out criminal operations against your country.
		It's called being guilty of high treason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		As though you were saying that more Russian agents should be.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's another thing when you do it with foreign powers.
		Then it's treason.
		Not just sedition.
		And it'd be one thing if Trump was really this foreign power and he was screwing us over like the globalists, but instead he's actually an American who really is restoring the country with all the globalists coming after us.
		That's what globalism is.
		The UN, the IMF, the World Bank, the World Trade Organization, the TPP.
		Trump is literally pulling the World Wide Web and reforming it.
		Cut UN funding by 50%.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		World star hip-hop.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He's stopped around now and says, we've got to stop this American madman.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thought he was a Russian agent.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in there, he makes these sort of arguments about Trump's accomplishments as sort of being like, he's not a Russian agent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's doing all this stuff.
unidentified		None.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, there's this super vague thing.
		If the globalists are real, or I'm sorry, if the globalists aren't real, any accomplishment against them that isn't real is real.
		So, like, it doesn't really matter.
		If you have a fake victory over a fake group, great.
		It's like when he says that Trump has redeclared sovereignty.
		What does that mean?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he redeclared sovereignty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Great.
unidentified		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He redeclared it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, we declared it one time.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then we declared it again, but he redeclared it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of like renewing your wedding vows.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You weren't divorced before that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You were divorced three times before that, and you raped one of your former wives.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She didn't write a book about it.
		Anyway, the thing about cutting funding to the UN is really interesting because the funding that actually is going to be cut is a ton of humanitarian organizations, like food organizations and things like that.
		Really look into the specific cuts that are going to have to be made to make his budget.
		People who are involved with those organizations have said this will be the largest humanitarian crisis that we've ever faced.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, do you mean poor people?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I believe.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This will be the largest, we're going to fuck poor people since we passed the fucking AHCA.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the quote from, I can't remember his name.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of irrelevant, but like he's saying that this lack of funding, we will not be able to make up from individual donors.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The amount of money that the U.S. gives to keep people alive in foreign countries, third world countries, medical countries.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Redeclaring sovereignty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Food things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sovereignty over food.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're saying that it will entirely shift the nature of humanitarianism in the world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They don't care.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The consequences of this unfunding of the UN is not going to be some political gain.
		No.
		It is going to be massive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Thousands of thousands of people are going to die more than that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Way more than that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Way more.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Way more.
		The amount of famine relief, the amount of disaster relief, those sorts of things.
		That's what's being cut.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he's not fucking funding North Carolina's hurricane relief fund.
unidentified		Nope.
unidentified		Also, you can't fucking poor people more than that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's domestic.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's what I'm saying.
		It doesn't fucking matter if you're worldwide or domestic.
		He doesn't give a fuck about poor people.
unidentified		True.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we've got to keep it on the globalist tab.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or the UN standard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Globalists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		don't know have you ever uh the u.n needs to come into north carolina for disaster relief yeah or That's genuinely what needs to happen.
unidentified		Fuck it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The free market will take care of it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, but have you ever listened to interviews with Romeo Delaire, the guy who was on the ground in Rwanda during the Civil War?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Hotel Rwanda thing?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I will tell you this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He wished that the UN gave them less funding.
unidentified		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, goddammit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You were so fucking convincing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's kind of the opposite.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There was a part of me that was like, wait, did they do that global corporation thing where they really just kind of screwed everybody over and it was a temporary relief where it's like the moment they left, all that shit started up again?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Both Yanon and Boutros, Boutros, Ghali were resistant to give the funding to do exactly what needed to be done in Rwanda.
		And it caused countless deaths and genocide.
		And we're going to end up seeing more of that in war-torn regions because of Trump's proposed lack of funding for the UN.
		It's not like, like, we want to imagine, or at least not we, but people like Alex want to imagine that this UN is a money suck and it's just trying to consolidate business interests and stuff like that and usurp our sovereignty.
		Right.
		And in reality, a lot of the money that we pitch into it goes to keeping people alive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's amazing that he can't.
		That's not a story.
		Like you and I, like most people, I would say 95% of people do not know that those are the cuts that he's making to the UN funding.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And in the citations for this episode, I'll post a link to the specific information.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So that basically means that they can get away with murdering.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But people are reporting it.
		It's just no one's picking it up, really.
		It's not carrying on as a narrative.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And a lot of people just don't give a fuck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's the same thing with.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They're not Americans, so who fucking?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fuck them.
		They're poor and brown.
		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God, that's America's philosophy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This next argument that he makes, I was really interested in it because he keeps talking about how in his short time in office, Trump has boosted the stock market more than anyone ever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He sort of makes the argument that it's like it's a massive rise.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like a bubble.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's one thing.
		I have read a couple economists talking about how we're going to be okay for a little while.
		The end result of this will be the biggest crash that we've ever seen.
		Yeah, absolutely.
		The sort of things that we're putting in place have no infrastructure.
		It's unsustainable.
		It's just on hubris and hot air.
		But I wanted to look into the specifics of the percentage of the stock market's growth in a president's first hundred days in office.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You want to know who number one was?
unidentified		Clinton?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, our man Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah.
		Well, but he had the benefit of the single worst thing that's ever happened.
		So literally anything he did, it would.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In 1933, he came to office and he raised the stock market by 79.62%, which again is kind of unfair.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But I mean, also.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because the stock market was so far.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it was so far.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was zero.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Zero.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, just not having Hoover in there who was actively fucking people over was just the fact that you have somebody who espoused some socialist belief meant the stock market was going to go up.
		And then the New Deal, of course, fucking led to a period of consistent growth for 40 years.
		And then somebody dismantled the New Deal, and somehow everything started going to fucking shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's interesting, actually, Hoover's first 100 days in office wasn't terribly bad.
		We only saw 1.32% decrease in the stock market.
		But then it fell apart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hoover was elected in what?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		29?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		29.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or he took office in 29.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		28.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So that's number one.
		Donald Trump is actually number five on the list of the biggest growth in the stock market in the first hundred days with a 5.32% change.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How about was Bush Jr. number three?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Bush Sr. was number three.
unidentified		Ah, shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In 1989, it was a 7.93% growth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know who number four was?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Obama.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Barack motherfucking Obama.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In 2013, 7.51, almost a 2% better growth of the stock market in his first 100 days of his second term.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Suck a dick, Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like your own stats there, the guy who you hate is better than your guy.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's insane.
		Why doesn't anyone look this up?
		Why doesn't Alex look this up?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because nobody gives a fuck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody gives a goddamn fuck about whether or not something is true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I was talking to my dad, and it was just literally like, oh, well, I assume everything is fake news nowadays.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fake news.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And you're like, no!
		You can't possibly.
		That's abdicating your responsibility as a human being.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Abdicating your responsibility as a human being.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, we've been over this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've been over this on the podcast.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not the media's responsibility to be right all the time.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's their responsibility to try and follow certain guidelines, and if they're wrong, make a correction.
		It's every citizen's responsibility to engage with news that you get.
		And if something seems a little weird, don't trust it.
		Look into it.
		Everyone is just giving up on that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There is something about, I will never remember the quote, and I'm probably going to paraphrase it and screw everything up, but without an informed citizenry, democracy cannot flourish.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Shakespeare.
unidentified		Oh!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have heard that quote.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's one of the founding father dudes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, probably.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's one of the founding father dudes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of those bros.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One of those slave owners.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of those cool bros.
		So in this next clip, we get some more projection.
		And just overall, Alex not getting the point of Keith Olbermann's video.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I've watched Oberman quite a bit.
		He is literally having a mental breakdown here and is absolutely scared.
		These people are crazy.
		They thought they ran America.
		That's their power trip.
		That's their identity.
		And now they've lost their identity and they are hitting the panic button.
		And there's liberal professors everywhere calling to kill Trump supporters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Name one.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		They're calling to kill Trump.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Nothing's being done about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Name one.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We've got a guy from reaching millions of people saying kill everybody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So right there, right there, what happened?
		What happened right there?
		This is important.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		is that his video just hey i'm keith olverman kill Kill everybody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, what happened there was like Alex, the long pause was because Alex said that he reaches millions of people.
		And he had to be like, oh, shit, I've just said that.
		I'm supposed to say everyone's audience is tiny.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Shit.
		So he got into his headspace, and then he realized, I don't know what he's saying.
		I didn't watch this twice.
		I can't engage with the material.
		So, oh, you must be saying, kill everybody.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think he probably did watch it twice, but I think our larger issue is that he doesn't have any comprehension skills.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Information synthesis.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, and then there's the fact that I guarantee he watched it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Do you think like Wernicke or Broca's area in his brain is just damaged?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like the idea of he can't take in communication appropriately?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's an interesting question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's possible.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think that's something that we could even really kind of speculate on because one, I don't know enough about it to have anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'd like to start a Kickstarter to get a CT scan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And unlike many people in the commentary industry, I would prefer not to comment wildly on something I know zero about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's sort of the hallmark of our show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		All of the stuff that you just said, like the different parts of that brain, no idea what you were talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're the sort of parts of the brain that are responsible for ingoing and outgoing communication.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, well, now that I know that, I absolutely agree with you.
		His brain is damaged.
		One too many putting some other dudes into a coma situation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So back to it.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He basically disagrees with that we're at war with Russia and Russia's scum.
		In fact, here's the Russia scum clip first.
		Here it is.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		The nation and all of our freedoms hang by a thread, and the military apparatus of this country is about to be handed over to scum who are beholden to scum.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Russian scum.
		All right.
		Now let's start going out the break with the first clip where he calls on all intelligence agencies and citizens, everyone else, overthrow Trump.
		Stop him.
		The world come to America.
		Attack us.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		I'm Keith Olbermann, and this is the resistance.
		I appeal to the intelligence agencies and the governments of what is left of the free world, to them as entities, entirets, as bureaucracies making official decisions, and to the individuals who make decisions of conscience, to GCHQ and MI6 in the UK,
		to the BND in Germany, the DGSE in France, the ASIS in Australia, and even to the GRU in Russia, where they must already be profoundly aware that they have not merely helped put an amoral cynic in power here, but an uncontrollable one.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All right, let's stop there.
		That is the problem.
		He's not controlled by the globalists.
		So now you're more honest.
		You want the foreign powers who did mail in our election.
		The EU got involved.
		The globalists got involved.
		The UN got involved.
		The Saudis got involved.
		The Pope got involved.
		The Chinese dictator got involved.
		Cuba got involved.
		Mexico got involved.
		Canada got involved.
		But you couldn't stop.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It goes to jail.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You got your asses handed to you.
		And now you want the whole world to gang up on us more, you dirtback traitor.
		His ass needs to be in a Supermax prison.
		He isn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a classic Alex right there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That makes me happy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's like, I know I can suck on a laws inch we're going to break.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to fucking do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's some classic Alex Jones right there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Get ready for Jesus.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've been missing some of that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Get ready for a lot more of it.
		Yeah.
		The rest of this episode is classic Alex plus his media criticism skills.
		Like, I don't want you to, I do want you to get your stopwatch out.
		Because I don't want you to count out loud over these clips how long it takes him to interrupt them.
		But it's buckwild.
		And the reason, I apologize, the reason I put my hand up and was like, hold on, was because I wanted that to play Keith Olbermann's intro.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he replays it and interrupts the fuck out of it.
		And I wanted everyone to be able to hear what he was saying in a coherent sentence.
		Because if you just take Alex's analysis, you'll never know what he was actually saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The thing that I like before I even thought about Alex listening to that Olberman clip is that is Olbermann is being very reckless.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's a little capricious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That idea that you're talking about Russian scum taking over the election is very much a well, that's an old clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, is it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that was from a couple months back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Russian scum.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's just getting it now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, he yelled about it back then, too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I mean, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no, no, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think we just didn't cover it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think he didn't tee off like he did today.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I think one of the things that gets me about all of this debate and all of this conversation is that nobody is clearly delineating that the Russian people are not a problem.
		It is very few people in the Russian government.
		It is very few people in the United States government.
		Like, these are fucking Alex Jones.
		Like, it is not people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, they are people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, but I mean, like, the idea of America is at war with Russia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not what's really going on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's going on is the Russian government wants a pro-American government, and nobody cares about all of the people living in America or.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got it twisted.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Russia wants an American pro-Russia government.
unidentified		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or at least a neutral and we're not getting involved.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Non-intervention.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So all of this is because guys like Keith Olberman and Alex Jones always boiled it down to nations.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it is not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, and that's why I don't defend Keith Olbermann.
		I still think he's a bit wrong.
		This is reckless.
		If I had to side with one, I think the goals of Keith Olbermann are way better than the goals of Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Agreed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I don't, I still, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His rhetoric is a little bit unhinged.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But just like we were talking about earlier, that is the question of we all know that there's some interference.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How do we solve this problem without also sparking a war?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So neither of these parties are going to do it.
		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So Olbermann's goals, I get, are the same as ours.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But for us, the ends do not justify the means.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, if you want to get rid of Trump, but that means we have to declare war.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I do, I think, at least in my own head.
		Yes.
		We don't have the proof that would justify a war.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But if it is the case that there is active involvement with a hostile foreign power, I do think that we just have to suck it up and we have to go to war.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I think it's a terrible outcome.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, man, that's a long conversation between you and me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe we'll do that off air.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no kidding, because this is already shaping up to be a seven and a half hour long episode as it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to start talking about my peacenick philosophy, despite the fact that I've already called for a revolution.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm the murder of our president.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not murder.
		The justified.
		Right, right, right.
		The justified execution.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very different from a murder.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I would say that if we can't get undue influence out of our body politic without a war, we have to go to war.
		Because the alternative is the erosion of our government.
		The erosion of democracy.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The problem is that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We lose everything here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The problem there is that we have no moral high ground whatsoever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		None.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We never have, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no.
		We've done exactly what Russia has done to us.
		The real reason that we're angry is not because of the doing of it.
		It's that it's happening to us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's human.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, and I understand that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm not saying that there isn't an internal logic to be wanting to declare war there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to make the argument of like America first because I'm not on that bandwagon.
		But if someone punches me, it's way more like I feel that more than if someone punched you.
		I'd be empathic and I wouldn't enjoy you getting punched.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or anyone.
		A stranger getting punched.
		I'm not thrilled with it.
		I hope I wouldn't like that.
		But if someone punched me, it's way more immediate.
		I got to take care of it.
		I have to respond somehow, probably by running away.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, strangely enough, this is one area where I'm going to go full religion on you.
		Oh, boy.
		There is a reason that Jesus has resonated throughout time, and it sure as fuck isn't the Bible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, I fully subscribe to the philosophy of, look, Russia did this.
		We corrected it.
		Look at, like, here's what, here's my.
		Let me put it to you this way.
		All right.
		Here's my response to 9-11.
		We build the tower the exact same.
		We give no, there's no record of them doing it.
		There is no recording.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Except all the dead people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There is nothing.
		But that's the point.
		The point is what they want is us to react in this way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't disagree with you in terms of 9-11, but I think that what we're getting off track is that what I'm saying is if there is no way to correct this without triggering a war, a war has to happen.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If there is a way to correct this without it, that's the preferable path.
unidentified		That's exactly what I'm saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's sort of where you and I, that's where our hearts are at.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's what we would like to see happen.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But because of the existence of people like Alex Jones and Keith Olberman, it seems incredibly unlikely.
		This is a conversation for another time.
		And Alex Jones has some thoughts about that.
		He has some thoughts about what happens to treasonous people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So good.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If he was a crazy guy on the street corner, the cops wouldn't do anything.
		The FBI, everybody has to do something.
		This is clear.
		Clear.
		Absolute organized crime, treason, espionage.
		Calling on foreign powers for a coup is high treason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's punishable.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not high treason, espionage.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Three different things.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Being hung by the neck of the dead.
		That's how the army still does it.
		Or firing squad.
		I guess you can pick either one.
		And I'm serious, man.
		If I was calling for foreign governments to come overthrow our country, I deserve a firing squad.
		Let me tell you something.
		60 years ago, he would be in front of a firing squad in about a month.
		Okay?
		So we do!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, hold on.
		This is the foundation.
		This is the foundation.
		Alex believes that if you commit treason, if you try and induce people to take over our government.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you mean like saying that the Russians should info?
unidentified		God damn it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, he only implied that earlier.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nothing is real.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But like, you know, the consequence is being hung till dead.
		That is that he has established that.
		We've talked about that in the past.
		That's the consequence for treason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But now it's coming out of Alex's mouth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which, again, like, my peacenick bona fides are ruined by the fact that Alex Jones is calling for a very similar thing that I am, but for a different guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just for Olbermann.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But so now we know that he believes that.
		That's in his sort of headspace.
		So let's move on a little bit.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And look how mentally ill he is.
		That guy that grew up never in the real world, a swell brat bathtub boy because he hid in the bathtub and wouldn't do his TV shows.
		He's a total mental patient.
		And then he wants to sit here and call for our president to be overthrown.
		And just look how mentally ill he looks.
		Look at how weak his whole identity is in running the government and being a liberal fake.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Weak.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then now he isn't getting what he wants, and he sees America coming back from the dead.
		He's so pissed, he now abandons the fact that Trump's run by foreign powers because he's not.
		And he wants foreign powers to come in.
		See, that's the traitor right there.
		That's the anti-American scumbag.
		I love America.
		I love our republic.
		I love prosperity.
		I'm loyal to this country.
		My family's always been loyal.
		This guy is not an American.
		This is a dirtbag liar that thinks he's better than you.
		He thinks you're a bitter clinger.
		He's an elitist.
		And look how freaked out he is because you got beat.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's a part of the narrative, but also I just want to point out that in a past episode, we discussed how Alex talked about his family fought for the South.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, a loyalist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They've always been loyal to this republic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very loyal.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then another one, but this one particularly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He also gave a speech at the Alamo a couple years back that was dicey to Mark Dicey.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But yeah, what were you saying?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The narrative.
unidentified		The bitter clingers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He thinks he's better than you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He thinks he's better than you.
		That's the one.
		That's the one that people are.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's elitist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the one people are going to latch on to.
unidentified		Of course.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's yelling at you because he thinks he's better than you.
		I'm yelling at you because I love you.
		Right.
		That's the fucking divorce stepdad situation going on right there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I hate you because I love you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now we're entering the section of the show where he might interrupt every clip immediately.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be great.
unidentified		Hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to let you talk here real quick.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let me let you finish.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go to this mental patient.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		I'm Keith Olbermann and this is the resistance.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		I appeal to you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Pause again.
		Back that up again.
		Keith, you damn plagiarist.
		We are the resistance to you, the globalist ganged up on America.
		You're not the resistance, you plagiarist.
		I'm the resistance.
		My audience is the resistance.
		And guess what?
		We kicked your teleprompter reading ass to the moon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's the first instance of teleprompter threats.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Teleprompting ass to the moon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so just remember that.
		Keep track.
		That's one.
		But also, like, come on, man.
		You didn't come up with the term resistance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, he did.
		It's plagiarism.
		Nobody's ever thought about it before.
		Well, except Will Shakespeare.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Almost every piece of fiction.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe not every piece of fiction, but tons of them that involved resisting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but see, what happened is he was the resistance, right?
		Now Olbermann is the counter-resistance.
		And now we can see that he is the counter-counter-resistance.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't say too much about that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're going to tip my hand in terms of something very important.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that, I mean, that's petty and very quick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here, Alex gets a little bit threatening.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go back to this.
		Let's go back to Nancy.
		Here he is.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		I'm Keith Olbermann, and this is the resistance.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		I appeal to the intelligence agencies and the governments of what is left of the free world.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, hit pause again today.
		I'm going to come back to this after break because let me give you a little message.
		All the real people in intelligence agencies around the world don't want to sell their countries out and don't want globalism and don't want poverty and want a future for their kids.
		I'd say 80%.
		Same thing with the FBI.
		You're appealing to people that just helped Trump win the election, dumbass, because they're sick of people like you running everything.
		Understand?
		You're a p.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So hold on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't want to pause it there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		NBI helped Trump get elected because they're sick of people like Olbermann.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's irrelevant.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't worry about that.
unidentified		Okay, never mind.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What I think is more important is that only 85% of people don't want their kids to live in poverty.
		Very weird.
		Very weird statistics.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, they want to end the family and then make sure the kids grow up in poverty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So apparently the globalists are 15% of the population.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think everybody knows that 85% of the people want to make sure that school lunches are healthy and contain.
		Wait, no, that's nobody.
		That's nobody in the GOP.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, 85% throwing that around.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a big number.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's 5% nation talk right there.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And you're coob.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yelling to people that know you're a pile of steaming dogmaner.
		Okay?
		Oh, you appeal.
		So they're trying to sell the idea of a violent overthrow and a civil war.
		Hey, jackass, you better pray there's not a civil war because I guarantee you you're the one calling for all this.
		I guarantee you, son.
		Sonny Boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whoa!
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sonny Boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not Sonny Boy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Sunny Boy.
		Don't open it.
		Sunny boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Three times.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You have no idea.
		It's on the other side of that door.
		You little chicken.
		You little wimp.
		You little nelly punk.
		You open that gate.
		You have no idea.
		Let's just go out to break and I'll come back to the rest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So Alex Jones is really mad.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Someone is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's a dominance thing for him, though.
unidentified		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It has nothing to do with anything that he says.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's all about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's very important.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look at this guy who presents himself as an alpha male to the left.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he doesn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have to.
		No, but that's what Alex is thinking.
		That's what Alex is seeing, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is a man doing his shtick of yelling about overthrowing a globalist government.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And so he has to alpha mail it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But Olbermann really doesn't yell that much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, but that's not the point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		To Alex, maybe everybody is yelling all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's entirely possible.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But the point is, well, he's not yelling, but he is speaking forcefully, directly to all the world governments of what is left of the free world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now you're doing a wrestling promo.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's what he's doing.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So that's what Olbermann did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This next clip is a story in two parts.
unidentified		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The first is from the next thing he says when he comes back from break.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the thing after that will be horribly embarrassing for Alex.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		To all of them and to the world's journalists, I make this plea.
		We, the citizens of the United States of America, are the victims of a coup.
		We need your leaks, your information, your intelligence, your recordings, your videos, your conscience.
		The civilian government and the military of the United States are no longer in the hands of the people, nor in the control of any responsible individual.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Pause.
		I can't help him.
		Back it up in five seconds.
		We had an election.
		Trump's restoring the Republic.
		He's restoring the Constitution.
		He's restoring jobs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Restoring sovereignty.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Give one reason.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Give one reason.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You're fired the guy the Democrats all called on to be fired, Comey.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't just say that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then Oberman just says it's a coup.
		That means it's unelected.
		So he now wants foreign governments to overthrow that.
		That's called the coup.
		So total inversion of reality by the Scottish.
		Here it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Inversion of reality.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that Alex Jones really needs to stop saying coup.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Coup?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because here is a clip of Steve Pieczenik on Alex Jones' show just after the election.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		So, Dr. Pachenek, what do you think is really going on here?
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		Well, you know, Alex, you and I have been together for a long time, and one of the things that was so obvious and people really didn't get it was when I got onto your show and I said several months ago that Hillary and Bill had affected a civil coup.
		That wasn't, you know, ex defeature.
		That was not ad hominem.
		That was a very definite problem that we in the intelligence community, the selective part of the intelligence community, much of whom were involved, were military people.
		I'm not going to the specifics.
		And I warned you we would do a counter coup.
		We did.
		It was done through emails, through Julian Assange.
		I will not name individuals.
		I've always said Julian Assange was really a hero for America.
unidentified		Do you mean that Russia was not involved?
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		I have high respect for Vladimir Putin.
		I've worked with the Russians.
		I helped to take down the Soviet Union.
		I still have a very high respect for the Russians.
		The Russians did not need to hack into anybody's account.
		They can hack anything they want.
		So can the Chinese, but we do too.
		The real issue at hand is that Hillary failed miserably.
		And $1 billion.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Doc, I'm sorry to interrupt.
		The sun's shooting into your camera.
		It might also damage it.
unidentified		Can you tilt it down just so it doesn't work?
unidentified		Hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There is nothing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex will not interrupt.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We have to finish the rest of the clip, but it's so funny because then for the next five minutes, there's just some assistant scampering around trying to close his curtains.
		They can't figure out how to close the curtains.
		It's kind of like a little bit of physical comedy that was 100% not intended, but I loved.
		Just like this guy goes, he tries on the left side.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like a three Stooges sketch?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He tries on the right side and is like, oh, this isn't working.
		So then it has to go all the way around to the right side.
		It's hilarious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's fantastic.
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no problem.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		As we started talking, the sun shot into the lens.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thank you.
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		Well, that may be too much light on this issue, but the bottom line is look at what really happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was a damn freeze of the moment.
steve pieczenik ▲ ● ▼		What's really happened subsequently has nothing to do with Hillary and almost nothing to do with Obama.
		We have been able to place through Trump.
		Mathis, Secretary of Defense, Michael Flynn, the White House, Kellogg in the White House, Homeland Security, military.
		Look at all the military positions.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Department of Interior.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But do you get what he's saying?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I don't...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's exactly what he...
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't necessarily believe all of Steve Pieczenik's stories, but he's coming on Alex Jones' show, and Alex Jones is congratulating him for hypothetically performing a coup to take the presidency and place people in certain offices.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's a countercup.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Countercoup is fine.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One of them that he mentions is Mike Flynn, who has since registered as a foreign agent that he was lying about back then.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Counter coup.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How great could his vetting have been about these people that were involved in his coup that he would not, would he have not known that Flynn was in the employee of Turkey?
unidentified		Would he have not known that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is that possible the level of ignorance that Trump could experience?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not talking about Pachenek at this point.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Pachenek?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ooh, that's a good question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Could Pachenek have not known that Flynn was working for Turkey?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is that possible?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't either.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The fact that he says it's a coup.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you're right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's mentioning working with Julian Assange.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So even there is a foreign interest.
unidentified		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So like, Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've always said Julian Assange, not American citizen, was a hero because he unduly influenced an American election.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, based on what we've already established about Alex's beliefs about what happens when you commit treason, Steve Pieczenik, Alex Jones, Mike Flynn, Kellogg, Mattis, all should be hung in the street.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Doucant Sam.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Doucant Sam, also hung in the street.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't tell me to follow my nose.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How dare you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's condescending.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, but yeah, no, you're exactly right.
		So they're fine with it if it's Julian Assange leaking this shit that was clearly given to them by a foreign agent.
		But if Olberman says foreign agents, please leak this shit, then it's treason.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all so cockamame.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And again, if he's pulling this inverted reality, oh, this is a complete inverted reality.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And like, I don't know.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so weird to not have a team in this fight, but hate both.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's so fucking insane for me because I'm like, I don't fully support what Olbermann's saying.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		So this is the central question to my response to Olbermann's bullshit.
		Is it worthwhile to get rid of Trump by then devaluing all of American intelligence?
		Like, do you see what I'm saying right there?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If he's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Not as phrased.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I really phrased that poorly.
		So what is the is it better to get rid of Trump by any means, or is there a way to get rid of Trump that's the right way?
		Do you see what I'm saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the central dilemma, I think.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So, okay, so we get rid of Trump by this leak, right?
		So then we put in the next guy, which right now would be Pence.
		But if there is a leak, we have to assume that it goes to the Speaker of the House.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I would say Hatch.
		I think Ryan's been compromised, too.
		Okay, so there's some indications that he, at very least, was having conversations about money shit with Kilsiak at the convention.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck.
		It's all over.
		So, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And with that raid that they just did on the strategic campaign group.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that was in association with stuff that was happening in 2013, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Necessarily.
		That might be a bit of a smokescreen.
		And I don't want to buy into conspiracy theories.
		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Even though we do a conspiracy theory podcast.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you have to be incredulous of stuff.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it is entirely possible that there isn't a ton of connection and what have you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But the timing is also very suspect.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And the fact that the guy who was running that company has connections to Roger Stone and Paul Manafort.
		Used to work for their firm.
		Right.
		Used to be a principal at their firm.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And on top of that, this strategic campaign group has, I don't know if I can fully explain it necessarily, but deep Robert Mercer ties.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, God.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Robert Mercer is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That campaign, the strategic campaign group created a political action committee for what's his name?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Big Mustache UN guy for Bolton, John Bolton.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, okay.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Now I know what you're talking about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He created a political action committee for John Bolton, and the only person who donated to it was Mercer.
unidentified		Mercer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it was consistent donations of $500,000.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think Mercer is one of the.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I would say Mercer got Trump elected at like 70%.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We'll get to that a little bit further.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		70%.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to get to that in a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the idea is that that raid also looks like it had something to do with Mercer and Cambridge Analytica.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Those sorts of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who we should not talk about because they are fucking watching us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But those sorts of influences on the campaign.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In addition, like there's Russia stuff on the side.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the shit that they were doing was dubious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's pretty wild.
		No, the more you research Cambridge Analytica, the more you're like, AI has taken over.
		Like, it's insane.
		But big data is.
		I think this, again, gets back to our earlier conversation.
		I want to get rid of Trump in a way that kills the fewest amount of people.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And the way the way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Five.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A lot of them should just rot in prison.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		But the problem therein lies if Olberman does it this way, then if it is foreign agents doing that, then we're in a full-on chaos mode.
		Sure.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, who trusts who anywhere at all?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, if it's like, that is world war.
		That's not war with Russia.
		That's war with every intelligence agency, because who knows who's doing what and when and why, and when it like, what will they do this time?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think that you, me and Keith Olberman agree that there's a problem.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's what I'm trying to say.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes, so we see, like I think you, me and Olbermann and frankly, Alex Jones and fucking everybody else in the world right now agrees there's a problem.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nobody can agree on what it is or how to take care of it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You, me and Oberman agree on what the problem is, right.
		So, just for the sake of framing this metaphor yes there like, there's a bottle, there's a glass bottle of ketchup that's falling off the counter and you know that it's gonna break when it hits the ground uh-huh.
		So our response to it would be either try and catch it or get a rag and clean it up, whereas you know Olbermann's might.
		His response might be throw a bottle of mustard at it.
		Yeah, let's try and invalidate a bigger mess.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a.
		That's a very good.
		That's a very good metaphor.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not very good, it's fine, it's a good metaphor.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay, and it made me understand what it is.
		Uh, we are yeah.
		No, it is a good metaphor, but at the same time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We've gotten way off track from the fact that Alex Jones legitimately, for the last six months to a year, has been pitching an entire narrative on his show that has to do with a counter coup to an imagined coup by Hillary Clinton and George Soros and Barack Obama which, if you are couping against an imaginary coup, that is just a regular coup right now.
		If you can, if Steve Pieczenik wants to come on the podcast, I'd love to talk to him.
		That's number one.
		Number two, the first question I would have is, please prove that there was a coup going on that you were responding to right, because if there was, that makes things a little bit different.
		Yeah, that makes.
		I mean I don't think his actions are defensible and I think he's lying about most of the things he's done just better.
		But at the same time, I don't think I don't think there was the original coup.
		I think it was hatred of Hillary and conservative.
		We got to do what we got to do, right kind of mentality racism right, and so tax cuts for the rich.
		Well, I mean, even fucking Steve Pieczenik doesn't believe Sandy Hook Happened.
		So, like, he is not a real great source.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, like, his idea that we were just, I mean, we were just doing a counter-coup.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That is a coup.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whatever you were doing, no matter how effective it is, no matter how much you're lying about it, you had the intention of overthrowing our government.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, agreed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, just because you were overthrowing the government while the government was between administrations doesn't really matter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or just because you think you were overthrowing the government for a good reason.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't even sound like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the biggest.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the biggest issue when you start throwing coup around: oh, well, it's fine if we did a counter-coup because we did the coup for the right reasons.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that according to us.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, that just validates anybody who wants to do like that's vigilante justice in the same way.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, we know he's guilty, so that justifies us with doing anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that's right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So now that becomes a perspective issue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So now everybody is justified in doing everything that they want in the scope of what they believe to be justice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you know why?
		You know what?
		That's why this entire rhetoric of inverting reality is so dangerous.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because if I just make the argument that you've inverted reality, then no matter what you say, it doesn't matter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If I say that you are just, you're completely wrong about everything, you're inverting reality, you're blah, blah, blah, then it entirely invalidates you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or if I call you a literal demon, that I can smell sulfur coming off of it.
		I've heard reports.
		It doesn't matter what I say.
		It doesn't matter what you say.
		You're a demon.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Even on this podcast, we're like 40-something episodes into it now.
		Like, we hate Alex Jones, but we'll give him credit when he makes a good point.
		Like, he's not incapable of telling the truth.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He just seems to lie all the time.
		And that's the difference.
		I would never accuse him of, like, all he does is invert reality.
		He lies all the fucking time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He lies all the fucking time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, like, this, it's.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And generally speaking, he lies in such a way that leans into the truth.
		Interesting.
		Meaning, here is a reality right here.
		And he lies almost like a fucking knife directly through it, trying to break any kind of continuity there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's fair.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So long as you can lie in this certain spot, you can never allow that kind of continuity to continue with the reality.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'll tell you this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Rihanna does not love the way he lies.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I agree with you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've been trying to transition to a clip about inverting reality for about the last two minutes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So my transition games are not strong.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which means, once again, Rihanna has saved us both.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		So here we go.
		He has some thoughts about inversion of reality.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Total inversion of reality by the Scottish.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here it is.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		Who can rely?
		The first step towards compromising our FBI occurred Tuesday with the unilateral firing of its director by the president, prompted by the Attorney General, both of whom are, or were at least in theory possibly to be, under investigation by the FBI as led by that director they fired.
		Our CIA is run by one of that president's political appointees.
		The first national security advisor was fired and may have been a Russian stooge.
		The second national security advisor has reportedly been yelled at by the president because he had had the temerity to disagree with him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He got yelled at?
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		Our State Department is in the hands of useless amateurs.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		Our United Nations mission is bereft of power and uninformed.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Pause again at the White House.
		Rex Telleson, if anything, is compromised, bringing in Condoleezza Rice and is a global expert who's worked in over 160 countries.
		So again, that's more false statements.
		Pure bull out of a guy openly calling for foreign governments to overthrow our president.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's why that clip started with the inversion of reality thing, and I cut it where I did.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Rex Tilleson, Tillerson.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it Tillerson or Tillerson?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Tillerson.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Tillerson.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		He has been an oil CEO who's been told 160 countries.
		Been to a lot of countries.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He got on a plane.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not the same as diplomacy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's not the same as diplomacy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I assure you it's not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oil.
		I've saw there will be blood.
		It's the same thing as diplomacy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you understand that's the overview.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I said I was an oil man.
		All right.
		I'm sorry.
		I'm sorry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The inversion of reality is that he's worked in these countries.
		He's been there.
		He's a great Secretary of State.
		The inversion of reality is Alex.
		He's pretending that he's qualified to be the Secretary of State because he's talked to CEOs in other countries.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whoopty shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That means nothing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I went to London.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I got an ambassadorship there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're the fucking Farage of this podcast.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've been there.
		I'm the Farage.
		Wow.
		That is maybe the worst thing anybody's ever said to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I apologize.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this next clip just gets into straight-up lies, and I got some facts.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		This is naked treason, and this arrogant SOB thinks it's okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here it is.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		Run by a cabal of an amoral family syndicate that has spent its first three months slapping a dollar sign on anything that stood still long enough.
		A cabal with, at its head, a man with seemingly no interest in our laws, in our rights, in our Constitution, and with a brain that appears to not work properly.
		Through our own negligence, the resentments and stupidities of millions of us, and the boundless greed of our elite class, our democracy has all but slipped away from us.
		It hangs today by a thread, and those who could protect it and restore it and fight for it, even at this late date, the Republican politicians whose voices today could force Trump out of office tomorrow, they are almost silent, owned by special interests and silenced by a powerful.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Back it up.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Trump is the only president in 50-plus years who put Pence in charge.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I really wanted just to cut there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's the only president in 50 years to put Pence in charge.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not the whole thing.
unidentified		That's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's a true thing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but it goes on.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Get rid of all of the special interest, all of the lobbyists, and to put bans on them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Didn't do that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And bans on whoever works for him being lobbyists for over a decade.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Definitely didn't do that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		The special interests are almost unanimously against him.
		Goldman Sachs gave all its money to Hillary.
		J.J. Morgan Chase, all its money.
		Some will argue, well, he's hired Goldman Sachs folks to run things because they know how to run things following his orders.
		Some will make a rational argument.
		So again, Oberman, you are a liar.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Speaking of liars, I...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's find out how much money Goldman Sachs and J.P. Morgan gave to each candidate.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Dan.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to go to you.
		I mean, if you really want to play this game first, we can.
		J.P. Morgan Chase gave $1.172 million to Hillary Clinton.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Goldman Sachs gave $1.050 million, just over a million dollars from both of them to Hillary Clinton.
		They didn't give anything to Trump, as far as I can tell.
		But those were like, that's not that much money for big banks to give to a presidential candidate.
		The University of California almost gave $2 million to her.
		That's weird.
		An offshoot of Google, Alphabet Incorporated, gave $1.5 million.
		Emily's List, a political action committee that tries to get more women involved in politics.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		More Emily's involved.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they have a list of them.
		They gave $1.3 million.
		So all of those are above JPMorgan, Chase, and Citigroup.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or I'm sorry, Goldman Sachs.
		Citigroup also gave about a million.
		But if we look at Trump's donators, and this is through the Freedom of Information Act, all this stuff is public.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His number one donator is Renaissance Technologies.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They gave $15,511,600.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's a lot of money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What do they do?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You want to know what they do?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're a company.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I assumed that you didn't know, and you just pulled that fact out of nowhere.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're a company that's owned by Robert Mercer.
		Yeah, we mentioned him earlier.
		He's a left-wing lunatic.
		He's the guy who's responsible for the funding of Breitbart.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Robert Mercer is not a left-wing lunatic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, sorry, right-wing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He is the most right-wing lunatic.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got me scared that I said left-wing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You did say left-wing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I apologize.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's why I corrected you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's nutty.
		He's basically the purse of Steve Bannon.
		He's funded all kinds of things that he's been up to in the past.
		He is involved in Cambridge Analytica, and Renaissance Technologies is a company of his that gave $15 million to Trump's campaign bid.
		That whole self-funding canard of his campaign is bullshit of his own money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which he will absolutely recoup.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He already has.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He already has space.
		Yeah, yeah, yeah.
		He made an investment campaign.
		He didn't pay for it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Chinese granting him a trademark on Trump, that alone will make him billions.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So his second highest donator in the campaign was McMahon Ventures.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Since McMahon?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Linda McMahon, who was named Secretary of Small Business Administration.
		They gave $6,200.
		Jesus.
		So that might look like a little bit of pay-to-play kind of shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, as much understanding as I have of the pro wrestling business, there's a real reason why she would want to be in charge of the Small Business Association.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Really?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		Because there is a trend in pro wrestling towards unionizing the wrestlers.
		They're not employees.
		They're free contractors.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I read that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they don't get insurance.
		They have to pay for their own transportation between events and stuff like that.
		They're independent contractors.
		And the WWE has a vested interest in them never becoming employees because it would cost them millions of dollars to insure them.
		It's a high-risk sport.
		Everyone gets injured all the time.
		You have to pay for transportation for 365 days a year for all of these people.
		It would be insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is already insane that they're not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's wildly abusive as a business practice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very much.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so Linda McMahon, they obviously think it's worth it to pay Trump $6 million.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then on the off chance he gets in office, she becomes the head of the Small Business Association.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, of course it's worth it.
		$6 million would be what, one year of their WWE travel.
		Not even that.
		Not even close to that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They have a roster that's like, I mean, they have SmackDown and Raw.
		They do events on Mondays and Tuesdays for each of them.
		They do dark nights in cities on other nights that aren't televised.
		They have their pay-per-views.
		People are in different cities every day.
		The amount would be insane.
		And each roster is like 40 deep, 50 deep.
		That's like hundreds of people you've got to pay for transportation, not including.
		I mean, I don't know what the situation is with their, like, techs and the people who actually do the building of the set pieces, as it were.
		I don't know about that part of the business.
		But, like, yeah, $6 million is nothing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nothing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But fuck that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's almost as though there's almost as though there's a goddamn global cabal of rich people trying to fuck us over.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So interestingly, his next highest funder is a business called G.H. Palmer Associates.
		And they gave $5,500 to the Trump campaign.
		That doesn't ring a bell necessarily.
		Don't know who that is.
		Nope.
		It's owned by a guy named Jeffrey Palmer, who is a man who in 1991 paid a $30,000 fine for laundering campaign contributions to support the blocking of the incorporation of San Clarita, California as a city.
		And the reason he did that is because he had a bunch of property in the town.
		He knew his taxes would go up if it became incorporated as a city.
		And there would be all sorts of registrations, all kinds of things he'd have to follow, all sorts of rules.
		And so what he did is he had a big company.
		He had his employees donate to this anti-incorporation cause.
		And then he paid them back for it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then had to pay a $30,000 fine for it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, he is still active to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A $30,000 fine is fucking nothing to that guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There is no punishment for these people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		For giving money to try and subvert the will of people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's no punishment for this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I looked into him a little bit more, and I found this awesome article in curbed.com, and it's about Jeffrey Palmer.
		Developer Jeff Palmer has built more apartments in downtown Los Angeles than anyone else, more than 3,000, and they're all fucking terrible.
		His squat, nearly identical fortresses with embarrassing names like the Visconti and the Medici aren't just ugly, although they are very ugly.
		They're vacuums designed to suck the life out of a neighborhood that has worked so hard to become lively in the past decade.
		So basically what he does is he comes in and makes cookie cutters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's a developer that fucks up.
		He makes projects.
		That's what he does.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Very, very expensive projects.
		Jesus.
		That specifically are designed to keep affordable housing out of neighborhoods.
		Of course.
		So this article goes on to give some of his worst hits.
		And here are a couple of them.
		Palmer wrote in an email to Los Angeles magazine that he, quote, wanted to recapture downtown's former glory with the buildings, which are collectively referred to, barfingly, as the Renaissance collection.
		He adds that his totally incomprehensible but kind of Italianate architecture style is actually historical.
		The Italians actually settled L.A. before the Spanish and Chinese.
		That, of course, is not in any way true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The Spanish founded L.A. in the 1700s.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you talking about?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The Italians?
unidentified		Yeah.
unidentified		Wow.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a complete inversion of reality.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
		Palmer's the man responsible for destroying the very last building in the lost downtown neighborhood of Bunker Hill.
		The city wiped out most of the neighborhood, which it deemed a slum, starting in the 1950s.
		But there was one 1800s Queen Anne House left on Caesar Chavez Avenue and Figueroa Street in the late 1980s when Palmer began to work there on the Orsini.
		It was called the Geese House, and it was protected under preservation laws.
		There are plans in place to move the house to Angelino Heights, but Palmer's workers demolished it instead.
		Their excuse?
		A bulldozer had accidentally backed into it, making it unsavable.
		It gets even more screwed up, though.
		When the city suggested it might hold Palmer accountable for his actions, he sued the city.
		In the end, he only had to pay $200,000 and provided some public mitigations.
unidentified		Jesus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which basically, the public mitigations that we can find are that all of his amenities are private.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So basically, he has outward-facing homes.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, like, if you walk down the street, it's just the facade of a building.
		But then, interiorly, there will be like a pool in a courtyard and shit like that.
		He has one building that has a fountain that is accessible to the public.
		And so, that is his public mitigation.
unidentified		That's it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is we are living in the exact same circumstance as the Roaring Twenties.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hold on, we're in robber-barren territory.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hold on, there's more to this.
		Palmer's potentially hurt efforts throughout the state to build more badly needed affordable housing.
		He's won two lawsuits to keep affordable apartments out of his buildings, including one over the PRO2 that pokes a hole in the city's ability to make zoning laws that require affordable housing.
		According to LA magazine, affordable housing advocates often blame that decision, the one that Palmer was responsible for when they point to the paucity of low-income housing downtown.
		So, he's actively hurting the ability of people to get apartments.
		Palmer's properties are, according to Palmer's company, 95% full.
		Rents range from about $2,000 to about $5,000, but the tenants don't actually seem to like it there.
		Quote, there are consistent complaints about trash and property damage around the premises, about the noise from other tenants, many are students, and about what people describe as lax oversights.
		His company actually has its own management subsidiary that runs the building, so it's all his fault.
		Also, someone had emailed this article and they made an update that the Palmer's buildings are also magnets for break-ins, far more than any other downtown buildings.
		Plus, they have tons of security cameras that don't seem to stop any of that.
		I read the article that was linked to about the break-ins, and it's insane.
		The statistics in terms of what you should expect for these buildings, it's like eight times.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're just super easy to break into, apparently.
		Wow.
		So, that's his third biggest donator, who's a shitty slumlord on a massive scale.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who's next?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The NFL's team, the Houston Texans.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That actually sounds about right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They gave over $2 million.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The NFL is a slumlord operation, if ever there was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, why was it specifically the Houston, Texans?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They fucking love Houston.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have no idea.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones, he's the Texan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's the Houston, the Texans.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We got Robert Mercer, Linda McMahon, this slumlord, and then the Houston Texans.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That sounds about.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Three out of four make total sense.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, but like the argument there that we're talking about with the New York Times.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you know more about the NFL's business model, then it's more shocking that all of the NFL didn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or Roger Goodell.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, Roger Goodell can go fuck himself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But so, like, when you want to say that, like, Hillary's evil because she took a million dollars from J.P. Morgan, you got five times that from this shitty slumlord.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You got six times that from Linda McMahon.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How much did 15 sterlings then have?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, there's no way of knowing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A lot of individual donations aren't through super PACs and the like.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I tried to find breakdowns of like the Donald Trump for President PAC, and I just can't find, and I don't think that's publicly available.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's very specifically not publicly available.
		That's the whole point of super PACs.
		Like the idea that Goldman Sachs did not donate anything to Trump's campaign is fucking insane.
		Because I guarantee that individuals from Goldman Sachs absolutely donated a shit ton of money to Trump.
		There's no way they didn't.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now we've got to get back to the other bullshit that was in that clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's so much bullshit in there.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like that one is like, all right, you can hang your hat on these banks giving her money.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Whatever.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Public banks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now we go back to the lobbying thing.
		Because Trump did put out an executive order that said that people can't lobby for that.
		Unfortunately, a little bit after that, it came out that he was just giving people secret waivers.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, what a surprise!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He was giving lobbyists in his campaign secret waivers.
		Oh, it doesn't matter.
		Who cares?
		Who cares?
		No, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, he promised that he would cut da like when he was campaigning.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was the one thing where you could not argue that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, special interest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Get rid of the money.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, the whole idea of saying, I'm going to get rid of lobbyists is a good idea.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One that should be done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it seems like it has not been done even in the slightest.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It is not.
		I am going to read to you from this New York Times article.
		The federal government's top ethics officer is challenging the Trump campaign's issuance of secret waivers that allow former lobbyists to handle matters they recently worked on, setting up a confrontation between the ethics office and President Trump.
		The move by Walter M. Schaub Jr., the director of the Office of Governmental Ethics, is the latest sign of rising tension between Mr. Schaub and the Trump White House.
		Mr. Schaub has tried several times to use his limited powers to force Mr. Trump to broadly honor federal ethics rules as well as the ethics order that Mr. Trump himself signed in late January.
		That's a bad start to the article.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is the largest uphill battle there ever has been.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The ethics office is trying to force the least ethical administration in any of our lifetimes to observe ethical norms.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And their own ethical standards.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just do what you said.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Not even close.
		No.
		Constitutionally, he's already violated the Emoluments Clause 10 million times.
		He should have been out of office on day one.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
		The most recent request came late Friday when Mr. Schaub asked every executive branch agency, including the White House, to give him, by June 1st, a copy of any waivers issued to political employees, allowing them to ignore any part of the executive branch's ethics policy, saying in his letter that he was, quote, advancing the mission of the executive branch ethics program.
		Such waivers are typically issued when the administration wants to allow a new political employee to work on an issue like federal housing or environmental policy that involves people the new employee may have worked with previously.
		For example, Ernest J. Morins, the energy secretary in the Obama administration, was allowed to work on matters that involved General Electric, even though Mr. Moniz, as a nuclear physicist, had served on a general electric advisory board.
		About 70 such waivers were issued during the Obama administration.
		Mr. Trump, in his ethics order, made several fundamental changes in this process, some of which Mr. Schaub is challenging.
		First, Mr. Trump eliminated a prohibition imposed by Barack Obama in 2009 on the hiring of staff members who in the previous two years had lobbied the agency they now wanted to work for.
unidentified		Ah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Former lobbyists seeking jobs in Mr. Trump's administration must get a waiver from the ethics rules if they want to work on matters that overlap with their lobbying assignments in the previous two years.
		But there's a but mister Trump has chosen to keep the waivers secret.
		He dropped a practice in place during the Obama administration that any waiver would be shared with the Office of Governmental Ethics and posted on the White House website or the Ethics Office website or on both.
		The combined result, eliminating the ban on hiring former lobbyists and keeping secret any waivers granted to new hires means the public has no way of knowing if Mr. Trump's staff are complying with the rules.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which they are not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The public has a very simple way of knowing whether or not Trump's staff is complying with the rules, whether or not anybody is complying with the rules, and so far, publicly, fucking nobody.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So why would you imagine the secret bullshit is even coming close to complying with the rules.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The article goes on to talk about how the idea of terminating the release of the visitor logs to the White House only plays into that even more.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That one is brutal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so the idea of lobbyists don't even have to really do anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They can just show up.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You don't even need to hide this shit anymore.
		Like the idea that you give a nuclear physicist a waiver, even though he's worked with GE in the past, you're like, dude, I don't even, he's a nuclear physicist.
		Like, there's a part of me that's like, oh, he's a nuclear physicist.
		Fine.
		I'm good with it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, I totally support that.
		I think that's oversight, and it's great.
		And it's public.
		That all is great.
		That is like Obama giving waivers to people is, I mean, we don't like the idea of lobbyists being involved in things that they, but at the same time, if it's all out in the open and done officially, there are reasons for a nuclear physicist to work in the field that he used to work in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it didn't even seem like he was doing lobbying.
		It was like he just worked for GE in the past.
		So the whole point of that waiver is like, we know you worked for them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We want to be way above board.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		You've worked for them.
		And so if you were not paying attention, and if you just got the headline, former GE employee now working for the Obama administration, you would be able to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		On energy policy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		You'd be like, oh, there's something going on there.
		Instead of former GE employee who was also a nuclear physicist, who has a clear expertise that he gave to GE as well as the Obama administration, instead of just this guy worked for them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, dude, what it is, is like Obama dotted his T's and crossed his I's, as it were.
		I know I got that backwards.
		But like, he crossed his T's and dotted his I's with little hearts.
		But Trump doesn't know how to write.
		Like, that's basically what's going on.
		They were too careful.
		He doesn't realize, eh, who cares?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't think they were too careful.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think Obama had to be exactly as careful as he was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even now we get into race shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		That's what I'm saying.
		No matter what Obama did, he was fucked.
		And apparently, no matter what Trump does, nobody's going to stop him.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that is all the evidence you need that we live in a profoundly racist society.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, this next clip is about Comey a little bit, and then we get into...
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do we get back to Olbermann?
unidentified		Hmm.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's pathetic what you claim.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That to Obermann.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		And those who could protect it and restore it and fight for it, even at this late date, the Republican politicians whose voices today could force Trump out of office tomorrow, they are almost silent, owned by special interests and silenced by a power that exceeds even whatever dedication to freedom they once had.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		All but a few of them fall back into platitudes about the leader of the country firing the head of the FBI and precipitating a constitutional crisis in order to shut down the investigation of his possible high crimes.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay, let's hit pause again.
		Hey, Oberman, every major Democrat that goes on television or tweets, from Hillary Clinton to her husband to Nancy Pelosi to Maxine Waters to Michael Moore, all of them have come out and said, get rid of Comey.
		He's horrible.
		But now you claim that's not the case because you think your viewers are a bunch of idiots.
		And the type of folks that go to GQ to get their news and think they're smart, to watch you read off a teleprompter the names of spy agencies, like, oh my gosh, you're so smart.
		And every 30 seconds you look down at papers to imply you have notes and aren't reading off the teleprompter, shows your total acting deception.
		Mr. Baby.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's teleprompter too, but also Mr. Baby.
unidentified		Mr. Baby, I love you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We can move on to the next clip because that's all stuff we've already covered.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all that false equivalent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that's yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all that false equivalence shit about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am going to deal with none of what you said.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am instead going to say what I want to say.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that, you know, hey, I'm going to pretend that what Democrats said about a different situation applies to this current situation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whatever Democrats are doing, we're doing, but only to stop Democrats from doing what we're doing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, unfortunately, in this next clip, Alex kind of loses track of what's going on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The hinges come off the door, and we see what's behind it, and we see what he's really mad about.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Baby, here it is.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		The majority party definitely wrings its hands about timing and how troubled they are, and then they go back to calculating how they will most easily get re-elected.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Well, let's pause again.
		I agree that a lot of the Republicans are a bunch of hand-wringing blue-blood scum that we're going to remove from office through the ballot box, Dumbo, not through martial law or civil insurrection or foreign powers and coup d'états that you're calling for while you claim we've done that.
		We've got people running for office everywhere, winning, promoting prosperity, the Second Amendment, defending Christians' rights, defending our republic, and you don't like it.
		Your time of kicking Christians around and having deals with these promises that have their way and sexually mutilate women and put a jib on little girls' heads that teach Islam in the schools are over, you leftist the Republicans who hated Christianity so much, you made a deal with radical Islam in Europe and the U.S. to bring it in to cuckle us and basically rock Lady Liberty in front of us while she's chained down on a bed and while we're chained down with a ball gag in our mouth.
		Americans aren't into bondage.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Very specific.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And we're not going to be enslaved by East Coast, fop, fake, pseudo-intellectual pieces of garbage reading off teleprompters.
		Do you understand, Oberman?
		Do you understand that, you filthy, degenerate, un-American, seditious slimebag?
		Fill your heads.
		Fill your head.
		You're the biggest liar this planet's ever seen.
		And there are a bunch of old, stupid Republican establishment people that really care what CNN MSNBC still say or think.
		And they still are scared of you, Oberman, and still are impressed by you, Oberman.
		But most of us aren't impressed anymore, Oberman.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The good news is that he's totally in control.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		When he's angry, it's because he lets his anger out.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's letting it out.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's letting the dogs off the leaf.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He lets himself accidentally expose, as you were saying, that this is all about this warped version of conservatism that is all about guns and Christian fear.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, there's no.
		Like, does it?
		I worry that every single Republican conservative who throws the Constitution around has never actually read fucking word one.
		Like they know the Second Amendment.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, from listening to episodes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's fucking it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Listening to episodes back from 2014, I can tell you that every single order that Alex Jones sends out from the Infowar store comes along with the pocket constitution.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right?
		Well, that is the thing about it is that at no point in time do they ever talk about fucking anything but the Second Amendment.
		And just like just like we saw.
		Just like we saw.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even when they do, it's not nuanced.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it's just Second Amendment, Christianity.
		That's fucking it.
		The end of what conservatives' ideology regarding the Constitution means.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But even in the case of Alex, it's not really about supporting those things.
		It's about fear.
		Yeah.
		About this, like he gets into that idea of like you liberals are in bed with Islam and it's cuckolding us and stuff like that.
unidentified		It's cuckling us, it's not cuckolding us, it's warming the cuckling of our hearts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that was just nuts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is nuts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was nuts.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But that's it's so revealing.
		Yeah, but so revealing.
		But like the like the thing about the thing that we talked about last episode, too, was he's always priming people for the argument.
		This is there's they're like fucking okay, you support the Second Amendment, name the fourth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What's the 17th?
		What's the 21st?
		Like all of this shit, you go through all of these constitutional amendments.
		And again, imagine the world where these amendments fucking happen.
		Like it requires two-thirds of the states.
		It requires two-thirds of the Congress.
		It requires two-thirds of all of this shit.
		It is impossible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Never.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is impossible to imagine amendments happening today.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Never.
unidentified		Right?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Never.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You can't imagine one amendment to the Constitution other than maybe in six months an amendment very similar to a Simpsons situation where it says no Trumps.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like that's it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No more reality shows.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is an amendment I bet we could get two-thirds on.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's possible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But anyway, if you thought that last clip was crazy, you're not ready for this clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm definitely not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That one's a good thing.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If you went to a public school sporting event like I do, and you took your children there to compete in that with their private school that competes with public schools, and you walked up and had all the third and fourth and fifth graders run over like you were a rock star, you'd be impressed, wouldn't you?
		Those kids don't know who you are, Oberman.
		They know who I am, Oberman.
unidentified		And that show you rejected completely.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And how you're hated and only old East Coast and West Coast trendies, scared of their own shadows, scared of freedom, scared of America, who hate Christians, love everyone.
		They're the only ones that like you.
		And your little pseudo-intellectual outfit you wear.
		Mr. Oberman.
		Okay, Mr. Oberman.
unidentified		How fucking awesome is that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex is bragging about being huge with the 10-year-old market.
		The 9- to 11-year-old market of third to fifth grade.
		They love me.
		My kids' school.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm done.
		I'm done.
		I quit the show.
		I quit the show.
		That's all I've ever wanted.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wish that was the end.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Olberman!
		Olbermann!
		Let me ask you a question.
		Have you ever been to my son's soccer game?
		Ha ha!
		No!
		So shut the fuck up!
		You're not a patriot because my son scored two goals.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Two!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, I want to be clear about something.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is there to be clear about?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the craziest shit I've ever heard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When I was in high school, I took broadcast production classes.
		And there was a guy who was on local access TV who taught the classes.
		His name was Ron Widbin.
		He was cool as shit.
		He was a really nice guy, and he was a message.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's only two ways to go if you're Ron Widbin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ron Widbin.
unidentified		Rod Ron Widbin.
		Widbin.
		Okay.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the super coolest dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The coolest.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or that is the single fucking worst dude you ever met in your life.
		His name is Rod Romna.
		Ron Windbin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Ron Widbin.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm never going to remember that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He had a show on public access called Widbin's Way.
		And then he got involved with the school and he started teaching broadcast production classes.
		And there was a station called on TV.
		It's Channel 16.
		It was like school access.
		And he taught kids how to use cameras and create news stories.
unidentified		Cool.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that was the class.
		And then your stories would be on the public access.
		I did that for three years in high school.
		And he was like a mentor to me.
		He was a really awesome dude.
		But I can tell you that when he went to games that his kids played in, like when he went, people would storm the shit out of him.
		Just because he was kind of a local celebrity.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He was a local celeb.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the same way that, Alex, there's not a lot of media in Austin.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you go to a game, that's a big deal for kids who just know the idea this guy is famous.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		When you're 10, you don't know about the globalists.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You also don't know this guy's a huge liar.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look, there are two bellwethers I know regarding popularity.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One, knowledge of globalists.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How many shirts are being sold?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Two, how do 10-year-olds feel about you?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, like, it's so pathetic, too, because even if you take the artifice away from it, even if you take the part that they're lies, hold on.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		His argument is that 10-year-olds love him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anyways, keep going.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But even if you take it on its purest merits and that he is telling the truth, he is making an argument that I'm more popular than you, which is at its base petty.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it kind of is against what he tries to argue.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, he always argues that it's not about him.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's not about him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But it's about him being popular with 10-year-olds.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, it is about.
		It's about it.
		Can we?
		All right.
unidentified		I don't believe.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't believe that it's impressive to like even if those kids agreed with you on your bullshit positions, Alex, I don't believe that it's impressive that people who aren't done forming their brains agree with you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, now this is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't have political positions at 10.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This begs the question, and I ask this to you, policy wonks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How many of you are 10, and how do 10-year-olds feel about us?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Jesus, I don't want to know.
		For a while, there was a girl called in my old podcast, Freezing Point, and she was like 17.
		And I was like, I can't talk to you.
		I know you're just calling into my podcast, but this is still somehow illegal.
		If you're 10, stop listening to this podcast.
		I don't want you to mob me when I go to my son's games.
		I don't want you to have a son.
unidentified		That's true.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't want me to have a son either.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, Alex, congratulations on the fourth grade market.
		I'm pretty thrilled with you.
		Now, if you thought that his rant was over, it's not.
		I had to segment it off.
		This next part is weird.
		Like, that was weird.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That was super weird.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is even weirder.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How is that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go back to the crimes you're calling for on air and how you project what you're claiming on us.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Back to him.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		We, the citizens of the United States of America, are victims of a coup.
		For months, we have heard that your organizations have damning evidence against Donald John Trump.
		Whatever evidence you may have, you cannot conceal it any longer.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, no.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		Whatever we in this country are too.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		For months, we've heard from liars like you, there's all this damning evidence.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just let him see.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		When Trump lives one of the cleanest lives there is and is all about winning and all about never letting himself get in any trouble and being upright.
		All he does is eat sweets.
		Two scripts of ice cream and a piece of cake every night.
		That's what he does.
		No alcohol, no drugs, no cigarettes, no nothing.
		And everybody knows it.
		That's why he's so successful and so healthy at 70 years of age.
		You liar.
		But you go, we hear you've got all this stuff.
		Give it to us.
		Oh, like BuzzFeed was made up PPG.
		What if I said BuzzFeed said you got found Keith Oberman with about four or five little two-year-olds having sex with him?
		It's not true.
		You never did that.
		You're not a pedophile, Mr. Oberman.
		But what if we acted like the press does for Trump?
		What if, what if that's skip this break?
		What if it was like that, Mr. Oberman?
		How would you, or how about we said, Mr. Oberman, that you're a bank fraud expert and you've stolen money from children's charities.
		None of that's true.
		But you know who it is true about the Clinton stole 97% of the money from Haiti.
		They organized the charities and stole it.
		But you will never report on that because you're a pseudo-intellectual preying on America and your whole cult and culture is hating those of us that live in flyover territory.
		Isn't that right, Mr. Oberman?
		Let's go back to your lives.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Swoof.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let me ask you a question.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm listening.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What?
unidentified		So two scoops of ice cream?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That came out in the news, apparently.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So the news said that Donald got two scoops and everybody else got one scoop, which, again, I don't want to live in this world.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And who cares?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to die.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I want to die because that's on the news.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
unidentified		But second, that's a pro?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I guess.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He eats.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, that's his vice.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's his vice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, assaulting women.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, every night?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, assaulting women.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's only one vice that I accept: sweets.
		Sweets.
		He's got a vice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's got a sweet tooth.
		He lives the cleanest life.
		That's why he's a mentally degraded 70-year-old who's clearly on amphetamines and has weirdo doctors vouch for him.
		Clearly.
		Look, that part is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's the craziest fucking thing I've ever done.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's fucking hilarious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's fucking lunacy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But then at the same time, he's...
		Okay, so I want to come totally clean.
		I've been doing tons of business.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You've eaten ice cream before, you monster.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One time, I had two ice cream bars.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You bastard!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		One night, two ice cream bars.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		One night?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So I've been doing a lot of listening.
unidentified		Yeah.
		Cups.
		Cups.
		Fuck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have been listening.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This invalidated our entire argument.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've been doing a lot of back research on Alex Jones' shows, and I've started to realize that he is an adaptable creature, and he learns from his past mistakes.
		And his behavior gets changed.
		So in this instance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like the xenomorph.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, in this instance, you heard him do that speculation about, you know, Oberman, what if I said you're a pedophile?
		You're not.
		You are not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In the past.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, yeah, he would have just said that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But because he's being sued by Chibani, he's very clear to be like, no, I'm not saying that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he has to get that in.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is exactly the same thing that happened on December 21st, 2012.
		He learned the lesson of Y2K.
		We went over the Y2K episode where he was causing panic and being like, they're out of gas all over Austin.
		There's concentration camps being set up in the airport.
		There's no water.
		Yeah, there was all kinds of shit that he was doing.
		When the next sort of big media hoax end of the world thing happened.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's right.
		Like you said, December 21st, 2012, and I was like, that just seems like a regular date.
		And now I remember that's when people thought the world was going to be.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was supposed to be the end of the Mayan calendar.
		Yeah.
		And so on that episode, first of all, on the 21st, he had David Icke as a guest, which is great trolling.
		That's hilarious.
		But on the 20th, he is going on like, well, we're on the eve of the end of the world.
		I got to be honest, I'm being sarcastic, everyone.
		I'm being sarcastic.
		He had to really emphatically be like, listen, I got fucking crucified because of how fucked up I was on Y2K.
		I'm not doing that again.
		He is an adaptable creature.
		It's interesting to me.
		It's like you see him being checked kind of by the world.
		Now, he eventually will end up forgetting those checks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, he's going to slander someone again in the future.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		R. Alex?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, but for now, it's recent enough.
		And it is the next time he's like, oh, fuck, I'm close to slander.
		I've got to really point out that I'm not saying this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, and it's also like, my go-to is pedophilia.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's my go-to.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because that's the worst crime you can commit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Or vampire, if I want to be vague.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
		But I know I can't do that as aggressively now.
		So I'm going to say it and then walk it back just a tiny bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		To fraud.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then also that Hillary stuff isn't true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look into it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		97%?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I mean, there's a lot of, I mean, most charities don't give nearly as much.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, you should absolutely research a charity before you give to it because a lot of them are non-profits.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They are also, you know, they're still, a lot of them, businesses in a lot of ways.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why I support giving to independent charities like the Alley Forney Center that we've given to in the past.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Look, the Clinton Foundation isn't perfect, but they were not running a scam to rob Haiti of all their money.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That part is fucking cockamame-y bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They just played by the same rules that lots of charities do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And if you want to go by scams to rob Haiti of their money, God, there are so goddamn many.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Why, Clef?
		But also, at the same time, you have to understand if you're running a global charity, there's massive overhead to it in terms of administration, employees, things like that.
		So a lot of that money is just by default going to be rooted, which is why we are not supporting it all.
		That's why we're talking about when you want to give to something, direct charity is usually the best way to go.
		Because there's less overhead.
		They're more on the ground.
		The resources go more directly to the cause that you're interested in supporting.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And what's the most effective form of charity?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Volunteering.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Federal funding.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, especially.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Unfortunately, that's gone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, there are so many different things that you get rid of in terms of oversight and the like if it is a direct one-to-one federal funding charity.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This episode is going to be four fucking hours long.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How many hours are we at already?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're at three.
unidentified		Ooh.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have more clips.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jesus, let's do it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, so this next clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Listen up, policy wonks.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're the ones who asked for this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A bunch of you have said, hey, there's no such thing as too long.
		We'll find out.
		So this next clip is a string of bullshit and then a character assassination that does not land with me.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Cheer it.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		Ability and our freedom and a government controlling this country that is at least sane is your surest guarantee of a prosperous future.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, perhaps.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, let's teach kids all over the United States that they need to be trannies.
		And let's teach them that mother and father is hurtful.
		She can't use that.
		Let's ban whiteboards in school.
		Let's have professors say there's no free speech at colleges.
		And let's have Soros fund Black Lives Matter to go out and kill cops.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And let's build straw management.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		All this stuff.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's build the straw man here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let's build a straw man here.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's firing people on television to criticize the Democrats canceling their TV shows.
		All your insanity.
		And then you point your finger at us with pure projection and then say that we are the insane ones.
		Let's go back to Keith Oberman, who when he was in MSNBC, they called him bathtub boy because he demanded a bathtub in his dressing room and he would lock the door and sit in the bathtub for hours.
		That is a fact.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Bathtub Boy.
		Little spoiled Rocky sports catcher that knows is now going to sit up there like a general and call for foreign forces to overthrow our president while he claims that we're the coup d'etat when he's the coup d'état.
		Here it is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So now I want to be clear.
unidentified		Damn it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want to be clear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All those things that he brought up are things that we have discussed and debunked in the past.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The whiteboards on campus, the whole shebang.
		Black Lives Matter killing cops.
		All that stuff is nonsense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whole shebang.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Whole cloth.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But bathtub boy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I've never heard bathtub before.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Neither have I, but I'll tell you this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Did you look into it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, but if I had a TV show, you got a damn right I have a bathtub in my green room.
		Are you kidding me?
		Love a bath.
		I don't think that that, like, that to me does not look like that's not like some sort of sign of a blue blood, whatever.
		That's kind of a brooding person's like a bath is a contemplative place where you're kind of retreating.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You have a glass of white wine in a book and you just wonder about yourself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like a womb, kind of.
		You know, you're kind of like, do you know almost hiding out?
		Like, the attack does not land in terms of like, oh, ha, ha, give me caviar in the tub.
		That's not what I see.
		I see Keith Oberman just being like super stressed out.
		Like, I love baths.
		I've got to be on set all the time.
		I have to make this show.
		I can read in the tub.
		That's a thing that relaxes me.
unidentified		Why the fuck?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's wrong with that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if people started calling me bathtub boy, I'd high-five them.
		I get that insult from a lot of my friends that are like, hey, you know, you never get clean in the tub.
		I'm like, that's not the primary function.
		I take showers also, but I like to sit in the tub.
		For most of my life, I was a bubble bath guy, but then as I got older, I transitioned to bath salts.
		Bath salts are amazing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This got very personal for you.
		It did.
		The bathtub boy thing.
		Don't attack me, Alex.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Tubs are great.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm fine with you in a bathtub.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I fucking guarantee that Alex has a huge bathtub in his palatial mansion.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		His million-dollar battle.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you know what?
		To me, opulence is not the bathtub.
		To me, opulence is the double shower head.
unidentified		Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Have you ever taken a shower with two shower heads?
unidentified		I'm aware of its existence, but one from the back, one from the front.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, oh.
		I had a so when I was in college or something, one of my friends had a rich friend, and we stayed over at their penthouse apartment one time, and they had three shower heads.
		And I swear to God, it was the most opulent, beautiful experience of my life.
		And I enjoyed it for all of five minutes before I was like, you know, a lot of places don't have fresh water.
		And done.
		I'm like, fuck.
		God damn it.
		I can't enjoy anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now you can't enjoy the triple header.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, it was amazing.
		And I would encourage everyone to burn those down and give your fresh water to people who fucking need it.
		But also, if you ever experience it, pretty great.
		Oh, it's amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I feel the same way about a tub I lucked my way into in my younger years that had jets in it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you kidding me?
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So anyway, now we're going to discuss.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Good to be white and rich.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're going to discuss some people who are not.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And also, Alex lying about them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Great.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here it is.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		Your surest guarantee of any future at all.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		Now we need your hell.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Hit pause again.
		He talks to us like we're two years old and real slow.
		He looks down because he's reading a teleprompter.
		Let me act like I'm not looking at a teleprompter.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Four.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Now we need.
		I wrote this myself.
		I'm Keith Oberman.
		Of course he didn't.
		Let me act like I wrote it.
		Oh, let me go back to my heartfeltness because I'm reading off teleprompter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Can we show the camera here?
		What's our teleprompter here?
		See, the teleprompter.
		Now, see, Mr. Fake intellectual.
		Let's back him up 10 seconds because this is a key part right here.
		He says the world's in danger because of us.
		It was the Clintons gave nuclear reactors in North Korea.
		It was the liberal elites that gave economists Chinese nuclear weapons back in the 60s.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That doesn't make any sense either.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And it's been our elites that have been destabilizing the world forever.
		And now Trump wants to end all of that common sense and pragmatism.
		And you don't like it.
		So you claim the world's in danger because of him.
		Let's continue.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So the third part that we're destabilizing the world, totally true.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm going to walk you through.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm on board with that part.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to walk you through the facts about nuclear history.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here's the thing that gets to me is continuing to call him a fake intellectual, which is like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's similar to the racist dog whistle, but it's that like he's not saying anything particularly intellectual.
unidentified		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he's speaking very clearly and directly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I want you to hold off on this criticism because I think he'll get to why he's saying this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's all appearance-based.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's going to insult his appearance real hard in a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
		All right.
		But my point being, like, that's the quickest way to get that alt-right on your side.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's like intellectual correct.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This guy thinks he's an expert.
		Experts don't mean anything.
		I don't need an expert.
		I'm a.
		What did you go to college?
		Gay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You have a degree?
		I'm a proud boy.
		What?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I got a degree in being proud of being a boy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Talking about Chinese nuclear history.
		Yes.
		So in the 1950s, we had the Korean War that was going on.
		The Korean conflict, as some have called it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It killed 20% of North Korea's population.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And here's a really fucked-up thing I learned during my research into this.
		In 1950, General MacArthur wanted to shoot 34 nuclear bombs at China to, quote, create a belt of radioactive cobalt across the neck of Manchuria so there could be no land invasion of Korea from the north for at least 60 years.
		That's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm starting to think America's not always the good guy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I didn't know that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's nuts.
unidentified		I'm guessing to create a radioactive blockade.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm guessing that's not a widely publicized fact.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I bet in American history classes in fucking high school, they don't go, oh, by the way, our generals have occasionally wanted to murder millions of people and make sure that there's a radioactive belt around Manchuria.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even in, like, I was a history minor in college, and my emphasis was American history.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That was not even something I was talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I am obsessed with American history.
		Like, I recommend reading Barbara Tuchman all day, every day.
		At no point in time did I ever hear about this shit.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So in 1955, the Soviet Union announced that it would assist China in research into peaceful uses of atomic energy.
		In 1956, Tseng Hua University in Taiwan built its first research nuclear reactor.
		In 1969, the Institute of Nuclear Energy Research buys a reactor from Canada.
		Those are how China got their nuclear reactors.
		Could you built their first nuclear?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Can you tell me what the name of it is?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Was it XIANG Space H-U-A?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, T-S-E-N-G-H-U-A.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, Shang-Hu.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Come on, man.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm sorry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I just like Chinese.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right, fine.
		I admit I did not pronounce it correctly, but that university in Taiwan is on the foreground and forefront of Chinese nuclear research and still is to this day.
		Right, of course.
		They, within the next year, it's theorized, will create a meltdown-proof nuclear reactor.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's fucking amazing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're doing some amazing research there and have been for the last 60 years.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which is super important because that is a really valuable, like, just like other, you know, other alternative fuels like solar power and the like.
		If you actually get nuclear reactors to work, and you take away the risk.
		Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because when you talk about, I mean, like, when you talk about pure pound-for-pound energy, there isn't really much that can compare with the possibility of fusion.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And fission is that's a borderline infinite resource.
		That's the fucking sun.
		Like, yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's when we get the next phase of our cultural evolution.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's when we go from being a type 1 civilization to a type 2.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's when it's entirely possible.
		Yeah.
		So we had nothing really fundamental to do with Chinese nuclear expansion.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The beginnings of it were Soviet helped.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And then beyond that, it was just really, really good research and work being done by the Chinese themselves.
		And then a little bit later, like I said, 1969, the Canadians sold them a bunch of uranium and a reactor.
		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which, even back then, they didn't really understand.
		Like, in 1969, you could buy radioactive toothpaste in the United States.
		Like, they didn't understand quite what.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's how the future will look at our fluoride toothpaste.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, they didn't quite understand what radiation did to people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There were subtleties that were missed.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then, as far as nuclear technology, period, like the moment it was discovered, it's inevitable that that possibility would be reached by other countries.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's essentially the myth of Pandora's box.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The genie's out the bottle, and we're all going to fuck with it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oppenheimer was absolutely right when he said, when he quoted, what, Shiva?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am death, destroyer of worlds.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, I become death.
		Yeah.
		So if we look at North Korea's history, shockingly similar.
		1956, the Soviet Union begins training North Korean scientists and engineers, enabling the DPRK to acquire basic knowledge to initiate a nuclear program.
		1959, North Korea and the USSR sign a nuclear cooperation agreement.
		Over the next 30 years, Moscow provides the North with basic nuclear training and technology.
		They have their roots with the Soviets as well.
		It wasn't the Clintons who weren't doing shit in 1959.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Which, and of course, this makes perfect sense considering the fact that immediately after World War II, you have guys like MacArthur and fucking, goddamn, so many of them who are just saying, all right, now we defeated the Nazis.
		Let's go after Russia.
		Like, that was their immediate thought.
		Churchill was like, hey, now we go into Russia because it's super smart to fight a land war in Russia.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's the best.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It always works out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A little more about it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Just like a land war in Afghanistan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's never gone wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		A little more about North Korea.
unidentified		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Before the Clintons were ever in power in any meaningful way, in the mid-1980s, North Korea reached a, quote, dangerous level of nuclear capacity with advancements due to increased Soviet support for their nuclear program.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		In 1984, North Korea completed construction of a five-megawatt, I don't think that's correct, MWE.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		5-megawatt, actually.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		MWE.
		A 5-MWE gas-cooled graphite-moderated nuclear reactor for plutonium production.
		If operating at full power for a majority of the year, the reactor could produce 7.5 kilograms of weapons-grade plutonium annually.
		There is still great disagreement as to just how much plutonium was produced.
		That was in 1984.
		That was 33 years ago.
		So Alex's whole narrative about the Clintons gave him their reactors.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Everything was already there way in advance.
		China and North Korea both had Soviet help.
		Obviously, it was an offshoot of the Korean War.
		It's what the fuck?
		This is such stupid shit.
		This narrative doesn't hold any water.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What is the end of it?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's the end goal?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Here is the thing about that, though.
		That's fertile ground because I didn't know anything about that.
		Like, I didn't know where the Chinese or North Korean nuclear programs came from.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yet you knew damn well it wasn't the Clintons and the liberals in the 60s.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, of course not.
		But if I don't have any reference point for that, then I am still susceptible to whatever it is.
		Like, in this case, I believe you because you are always super diligent in your research.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm referencing papers from nuclear organizations.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		But that's my point.
		Like, I don't have any personal research into this whatsoever.
		So, if I didn't have you who are, you know, who's doing the very necessary research, it would be fertile ground for me if I already had a fear of China, if I already have a fear of North Korea, also North Carolina these days.
		If I already have a fear of these places, then that seems much more plausible because I have zero frame of reference.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But you're not dumb.
		You would look into it.
		And if you did, you would find these same things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But my point being, because I have no frame of reference for this, I'm much more on the empathic side towards these people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because if you're already predisposed to believing anything about North Korea or anything about China.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is sympathy for the devil, but it's not the devil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's just sympathy for the people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's sympathy for ignorance.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, in this regard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sympathy for the easily fooled.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, and not just that.
		I can't know everything.
		And so if I get an assertive authoritarian voice telling me this, it's much more likely for me to believe it if I have zero frame of reference for this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And especially if you've bought hookline and sinker into a bunch of other bullshit exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, unfortunately, a lot of my knowledge of the Korean war comes from fucking MASH.
unidentified		Like, I don't know enough about it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It was an accurate picture, from what I can tell.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Are you talking about the movie or the show?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm talking about the show.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Okay, never mind.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So this next clip, he gives some more bullshit, and I've got more facts on the other end.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's continue.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		...that is at least sane is your surest guarantee of a prosperous future.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		Indeed, perhaps...
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, let's look at Pence speaking to a large Christian group, admitting that there's a genocide of Christians, 200,000 a year.
		It's more than double the last decade by Muslims against Christians.
		And so now the president and the vice president are talking about how Christians are being persecuted all over the world while Muslims promote killing all the Jews in Copenhagen, Denmark, and don't get in trouble.
		That's today.
		And Twitter says telling the truth about refugee crisis is hateful conduct.
		Don't point out that 80 plus percent are military-age men or you'll be arrested in Europe because that's hate speech.
		That's not scary.
		Oh, I'm sorry.
		Let's go back to Keith Overman.
		Here he goes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So that's complete bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The 80% military-age men of refugees number is a majority of the people.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, that doesn't make any goddamn sense.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's not even physically possible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, based on the statistics that have been able to being gathered, 50.7% of refugees are women.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So your number is already fucked.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How many are children?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, here's the thing.
		And I'm going to quote.
		It is true that the refugee demographics do skew on the side of youth.
		Syria, in particular, is a country with a large population of young people, especially in comparison to Europe.
		The majority of Syrians are between 25 and 54 years old, and only 4.02% of Syria's population is older than 65, compared to the European Union, 18.5.
		If refugee and migrant populations follow their originating country's demographics, then we should expect to see that at least half of Syrian and other refugees will be male, and most of them will be young.
		To put the issue of age into perspective, as of 2015, Syria's median age was 23.8.
		Iraq's was 19.7, and Afghanistan's was 18.4.
		By comparison, the median age in the United States was 37.7.
		In the United Kingdom, it was 40.4.
		In Germany, it was 46.5.
		Children from Syria and elsewhere make up at least a third of the refugee population.
		Children who, whether accompanied or alone, are looking for a chance to grow up in a country that is not shredded by violence.
		Now, if you want to really break it down, the reason that the population is so young is so obvious.
unidentified		The life expectancy is terrible.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Health care is provided as best it can be in third world countries.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And also, men and older people are killed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Killed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It just constantly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The reason that the population is so young is because everyone dies really young.
		That's that.
		To not recognize that as a piece of the equation is so simplistic.
		It's racist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's expensive.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're not racist.
		It's bigoted.
		It's not because it's not necessarily race-specific.
		It's so fucking stupid.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's ignorance.
		That's like saying the, you know, the population in medieval Europe was heavily skewed towards young people.
		And you're like, well, because most of them died at 26.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, now the reality there, though, is a lot of those people were marauding.
		But also, Alex is operating basically off memes.
		Because there have been memes that have come out that show, I'm going to show them both to you.
		There is a picture of Muslim refugee men showing up.
		You can find this picture.
		It's very widely disseminated.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And it's got the Getty images tag to it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, but it's like a ton of dudes getting off a bus.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And it's really scary.
		And people use that as an example of like, look, it's all young men coming.
		But what they didn't show is that another bus showed up the next day with all of the women and children.
		They traveled in separate buses because of cultural reasons.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		For very good reasons.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's just what the fuck?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What is wrong?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Because it's the other.
		It's the other.
		So long as it's the other.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's ranking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You will believe rank bigotry.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You will believe anything so long as it's your enemy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The 80% military men statistic is fucking horseshit.
		The spirit behind it that it's all young men coming because it's an invading force is completely wrong because women and children are coming.
		They are coming along just on separate buses.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Which, I mean, we can have a conversation about how everyone should have the same bus.
		We can have that conversation.
		That's a different conversation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a different conversation.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's completely unnecessary.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now, there's also a bunch of reports of people showing up alone, dudes showing up alone, who had taken boats across the Aegean Sea to find refugee status.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a ton of reports of the dudes who die alone after taking those butts.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And everyone who gets on a boat knows that that's a possibility.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A good possibility.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So when they get on those boats, oftentimes what they do is they go it alone.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And when they get to where they're going, claim their refugee status, establish themselves, and send for their families.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, I know another place where that happens.
		What's it called?
		America.
		I remember when the Irish did that.
		Do you remember that?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I have a vague memory.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you remember when the Italians did that?
		Do you remember that?
		Do you remember when the Jews did that?
		Do you remember that?
		I do.
		Oh, man.
		What do all of those people have in common?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They were fleeing something?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They were fleeing something.
		I remember also how back then when the Jews were fleeing some guy.
		Some dude?
		Was there a history?
		I'm trying to blank.
		I remember a guy, right?
		So they were fleeing from this horrific catastrophe that was being visited upon them due to no fault of their own, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And then there were people in America who are like, we can't let these people in.
		We can't do it.
		It's bad.
		They're bringing the same brand of fascism from their world to ours.
		I remember how, like, oh, that's right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it's interesting that that's enough in our memory that we have reports of people who we denied asylum to literally being murdered because they couldn't get over here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		Do we, I mean, I bet we don't have any newspapers or any written word from that time, right?
		Like, that was so far, that was so long ago.
		It was like, I mean, we didn't even have newspapers back then.
		Oh, wait, America is a racist fucking country that's always been monstrous.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It drives me up a fucking wall that Alex Jones is making these arguments based on lies, based on facts that he's twisting, and this same episode where he's mad that Muslim women are at Starbucks.
		How does he fucking not realize what lives within him?
		How does he not take a look in the mirror and realize maybe it's me.
		Maybe I have the problem.
		It's not to say that Muslims, as a wide group of people, don't include some people who are doing fucked up shit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, do you mean in a group of two billion people, you might find some people who are doing fucked up shit?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can always find examples.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Who would a guess?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can always find examples.
		And because Alex Jones lives in such a world of black and whites, I've got to make it clear that I don't think that Muslims have never done anything bad in the world.
		That's not the argument I'm making.
		I'm making the argument that you don't see nuance.
		You see them all as one.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You see them all as bad, and you refuse to wrestle with it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is the definition of bigotry.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is the definitive.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hey, we need a bathroom bill because all trans people are bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, they're all molesters.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We need fucking, we need, we can't let gay people get married because all gay people are trying to destroy marriages.
		Yeah.
		Fuck you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, that was my big soapbox moment.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I loved it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yours is probably coming in this next clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's a segment on the show, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Soapbox moment.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Jordan gets on the soapbox and yells about something.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I think it's going to come because this next clip, I think, is about climate change.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But I think.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not sure.
unidentified		All right.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		Keith Oberman here goes, your surest guarantee of any future at all.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Pause again.
		I'm sorry.
		So there's no future at all unless you volunteer and I, the science guy, Bill and I saves the earth.
		Algor saves the earth.
		Polar bears can't swim.
		The ice caps have all melted.
		The sea level's up 100 feet.
		We're all dead.
		Sea level's down.
		It's all lies, lies, lies.
		Another fake sitting up there in a little costume trying to look intellectual, reading off a teleprompter.
		Let's go back.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Five teleprompters.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So how do you feel about this?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Look, I'm running out.
		I'm running out of gas.
		I'm running out of gas on the climate denier thing.
		Look, it's so my operating theory on climate change is very simple.
		For 40 years, climate scientists have deliberately downplayed the danger of it.
		And they've done this because they don't want to look like alarmists.
		Yeah, exactly.
		Hey, guys, we need to do something about this.
		It's really important that we do something about this.
		It's not like I'm saying the sky is falling.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're like the polite people who want you to leave their house at like two in the morning.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't want to be like, get the fuck out of my house.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're like, hey, I think I might go to bed.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		All of this stuff.
		Or, you know, this is an old story about, I think it was probably Malcolm Gladwell, maybe, where they were talking about the power dynamic in airplanes.
		So if you listen to the black boxes of a bunch of Korean airplanes, which at the time were the most dangerous airline in the world because they had the highest number of plane crashes.
		And you're like, why does this one place have this such high number of plane crashes?
		And they go through all these black boxes and they see that pilots get tired.
		And their co-pilots, because of the culture of deference, would be very genteel.
		And they're like, hey, I think there might be something coming up ahead.
		And the pilot would be like, ah, I don't think so.
		And then boom, they explode.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Death comes from not listening to other voices.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		And even then, when those voices are deliberately trying to be as deferential as possible, nobody's going to get the true scope of the emergency that's going on.
		All of the stuff.
		And this is something that I think is true, and I'm probably right about it.
		All of the stuff they predicted for 60 years in the future will be 10 years in the future.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I've heard you make this claim before, and I'm worried you're right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am absolutely right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What do you say about Alex Jones's claim that whenever you see time-elapsed things about polar ice caps melting, that's just because it's summer?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's summer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't show it growing back up in the winter.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope, I buy it.
		So done.
		Seasons.
		Seasons.
		That's it.
		Climate is just summer, spring, winter, fall, fireballs.
		I remember that.
		Do you remember the fifth season?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sure, fireballs.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fireballs.
		Yeah, absolutely.
		Fucking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So let's get back to Greener Pastures.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What are you going to do?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who cares?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's too late.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're fucked.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's so many millions of people who are going to die.
		And the thing that kills me is that there is no other way to describe it than if you are a climate change denier, you personally are contributing to the death of millions of people.
		Millions of people.
		Do you think, like, oh, look, a refugee crisis is bad now, right?
		Imagine, just fucking imagine whenever sea lions, whenever seaboard.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Sea lions attack.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Sea lions attack.
		Which is my new favorite show on Fox.
		It's on primetime.
		When sea lions attack.
		No.
		Border.
		Just Florida.
		Just Florida.
unidentified		Sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		A lot of territory in Florida is going to disappear.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They don't even fucking talk about Georgia and Louisiana.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm unhappy that people from Florida are going to become refugees and they're going to come to Chicago.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And that's like that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's only talking about displacement.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It has nothing to do with even encroaching new deserts and places that will become unlimited.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
		Like, if the refugee crisis now is about people moving from one place to another and you think there's terrorism now, imagine.
		Imagine when fresh water becomes the next fight.
		How many millions of people are going to be fighting over fresh, just drinking water?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Potable water.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Your survival.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's going to get ugly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It's going to be brutal.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Alex Jones thinks that's all bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I genuinely, like, it's gone from, it's gone from me being.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You think that's all about a carbon tax.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I know.
		I know.
		They all do.
		Genuinely, I'm at the point now where it's like, dude, I just, we're all going to die.
		It's over.
		Or at least billions of people are going to die.
		I just, like, I used to be like, hey, guys, if you're denying climate change, you're killing your grandchildren.
		Now I'm at the point where I'm like, oh, God, I hope it happens now so I can look at my dad's fucking eyes and be like, I told you so, as we both explode in a fucking fireplace.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I could have had kids, but now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
		No, fuck you.
		You're killing your grandchildren.
		You're killing your children.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Let's get back to the modern day, not speculating about the future.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is Alex Jones doing a real fun dance.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm glad I didn't get on that soapbox you expected me to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is a fun dance about Trump and Russia.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's go back.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		Now we need your help.
		Whatever there is on Trump, reveal it.
		Issue it officially if you can.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Leak it.
		Pause it.
		Whatever it is, because it's all made up.
		Whatever it is.
		Maybe he's Santa Claus.
		Maybe he's really George Washington.
		Maybe he's a space alien.
		Maybe he's one of Keith Oberman's hemorrhoids.
		I mean, just whatever it is you've got.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		We all made stuff up and said there was something, so it must be true.
		We all read the secret.
		We believe we can manifest.
		Of course, you can't.
		It's all made up.
		Let's just manifest that Trump's gone.
		How about we manifest that Keith Oberman doesn't just read off teleprompters?
		Six.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I did put Trump's impeachment on my vision board.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, that's true.
unidentified		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, hey, Alex, go fuck yourself for getting shitty at the secret.
		You believe in 12th-dimensional demons.
		Don't fucking play that game.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you understand?
		I love his strategy of I'm going to get him get, I'm going to let him get so far into it, and then I'm going to cut it off.
		Because there is a complete argument that there is to be made by Keith Olbermann, and it will be made.
		If you let him.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, if you listen to the whole clip, right, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If you let him finish, there is, well, like the Fox News clip.
		I don't know if you saw this, but they went to a small-town diner or whatever, and they start talking to this old dude, reliably old white dude.
		And even the old white dude is like, well, I think the timing of this whole thing is very suspect.
		They're like, boom, I'm out of here.
		We're interview over.
		Yeah, Like, that's what he's doing.
		If you allow them to actually ruminate on all of this circumstantial evidence, even people who are predisposed to agree with you, it starts to look bad.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But that's the comedy of it is that Alex Jones is this guy who claims that Colbert and Fox News keep taking him out of context.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And now he's not allowing on his own show any context to develop for this thing that he's ostensibly doing media criticism over.
		Like, he's doing this.
		Like, we're going to break this down.
		And like I said, it's 35 straight minutes of the show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So like he doesn't let more.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Olberman says 10 words during that entire 30 minutes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There are a couple times he lets like 40 seconds tops go.
		But most of the time it's two.
		That's two seconds play.
		Like, oh, I got to lie.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Let me interrupt here.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I got to lie about North Korea and China.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, it's why?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What's the point?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What do you mean, what's the point?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The point is obvious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		The point is to.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's too obvious.
unidentified		No.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, the point is really simple.
		It's to inoculate people.
		All of this stuff sounds reasonable if you listen to it all the way through.
		If you listen to it all the way through, what Olberman says sounds reasonable.
		But if you take word-by-word interruptions, you're inoculating your listeners from this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I just had a revelation, I think.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So basically.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it about the seven seals?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones believes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Is it about the seven sea lions?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yes.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		They're attacking.
		They're hitting Florida right now.
		No!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		They said that wouldn't happen for 60 years.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You said soon.
		So I think.
		Okay, so Alex is imagining a world where a bunch of people have watched the Olbermann clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they've watched it all the way through.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And so he's making sure that his listeners can argue with them.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		With point-by-point, ah, here's an objection you can make.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hoping that everyone who has seen the Oberman clip will just blindly accept whatever he's saying.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And in that case, his listeners would win that argument because they're just obnoxious and bringing up stuff that the Oberman listeners were like, I don't know what you're talking about.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, you didn't, like, before we had this conversation, didn't know the specific history of North Korea's nuclear program.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What am I going to argue?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, so you, if you were in a conversation with one of Alex Jones' listeners, you'd be like, I don't know about that.
		It doesn't sound good, but I don't know about that.
		And they'd be like, well, you don't know about that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And they'd get aggressive with you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And an argument doesn't go well if you go, wait, what did you say?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I need to stop.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know about this.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I need to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I need to pull up my phone.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I need to Google this shit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm not an expert on this.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is like, unfortunately, rhetoric, a lot of the time, defeats reality.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Especially when it's super aggressive rhetoric.
		Yeah.
		So speaking of which, this next clip, Alex just fucking completely takes two words that Olbermann says out of context and pretends they're biblical.
		It's wild.
		It's wild.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Two words?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Just listen to this closely.
		Don't talk over this.
		It's pretty quick.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Mike down.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Mike down.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		That's done.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		If your directors and your governments want you to wait, look to the last days here and ask yourselves plum your consciences if there is any left.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He didn't want to say we're in the last days, so he said because he's an atheist.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he didn't say that.
		He said, look to the last days here.
		He's talking about the last few days.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm pointing to my nose.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You called it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm pointing to my nose.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course, it was obvious.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So obvious.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But he heard those words put next to each other.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hear the words of the Lord.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's like, oh, this has got to be biblical.
		He's got to be talking about apocalypse shit.
		No, I'm the apocalypse guy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		So he just like, you're stepping into my territory, Olbermann.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to flex on you.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's so fucked up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's like, it's, it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But this is what I'm saying about this whole clip: this is very much Alex being like, you're on my world now.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You're on my turf.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		This is where I shine.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So don't fuck with me, Olbermann.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, you're going into conspiracy territory and you don't even know what.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And Olberman is doing that.
		Like, he might be right, and I definitely don't rule it out right now.
		But Olberman is definitely stepping into Russia conspiracy theory territory.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And that's something, I mean, we're already three and a half hours in, so let's not get into it and unpack it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But just on a very superficial thing, we do have to be super careful ourselves, and I think everyone else should as well, about getting caught up in momentum with conspiracy theory on the left.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because we've seen what it's done to the right.
		It is this.
		But like, when we talk about Louise Mensch.
		Okay, Laura.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, we're not going to do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're not going to relitigate that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I got you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I got you.
		I'm not here to defend her.
		She's wrong a lot of the time.
		But she is part of that sort of hemisphere of Twitter that has become sort of beholden to rampant speculation.
		Right.
		And it's maybe more right than the conservative side.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, it's dangerous because there's a lot of things that are wrong that get forgotten when a right thing happens.
		Right.
		So.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, it's the fortune-teller thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You remember when the fortune teller got it right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because it's crazy.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But you don't remember all the times the fortune teller got it wrong.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
		And when we talk about Russian stuff, I think we're not saying we have any real secret knowledge or anything.
		We're saying it looks bad based on the things that are concretely reported.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There is not nothing there.
unidentified		No.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But we're not jumping in the bed of.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think our main summation so far of the Russian stuff is Putin is the architect of something.
		Yes.
		We know these people have contact with a guy who is a front.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And lied about the contact.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And lied about that.
		So we know that there's all kinds of shady shit going on.
		There's a lot of circumstantial evidence, and we don't have a smoking gun.
		Yeah.
		But at least my operating theory is there is a smoking gun.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And we're just trying to navigate a way through this that doesn't kill millions of people.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's where we come from.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So it's important, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't become and don't allow a left-wing Alex Jones to exist.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because if that person does exist, you're just going to get it's just going to be an infinite cycle that repeats itself.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If it's an eye for an eye, everybody's blind.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And Keith Olbermann's not there yet, but he's putting his toe into the water.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, there are so many people who are angling for, and again, is...
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Louise Mench can't do it because she's not a demagogue.
unidentified		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		She has a side.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no.
		I'm not saying that.
		I'm not saying that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Keith Oberman's the only person who is legitimately in that conversation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he is on the internet as a video personality, as a newscaster.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, let me put it in the way that I've already established, right?
		I want Trump executed judicially.
		I want him to be tried for treason, and then because he committed it, I want him to be punished for treason in the way that it's such.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And if the facts bear out that he didn't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Then I don't want him to be punished for it.
		Right.
		That's how the law works, right?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I would still like him to be punished for other things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right, right, right.
		But if my stated goal is I want him to be punished for treason the way that you should be, i.e., hung from the neck till dead, all kids watch.
		I don't want him.
		Yeah, and I'll support that forever.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fair enough.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But I don't want him to be hung extra judicially.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Right.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So in the same way, I want Trump gone.
		I don't want him gone because of a whole series of conspiracy theories that aren't true.
		Because that is the same coup narrative that Alex Jones is advocating for.
		There's a right way.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What it comes down to is facts above agenda and narrative.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Beyond that, also, I mean, what Trump's already done is enough to get him removed from office.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Absolutely.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Even just the China trademark thing is enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Of course.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		More than enough.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You can't be president and do that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		You just can't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		There's a constitution, or at least there was.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, it's insane.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So the punishment should absolutely be commensurate with the crime.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I don't want to get into that same kangaroo court situation where now Trump is the enemy, and so we just.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We agree.
		We agree.
		And I think most people listening agree.
		I think we got some good policy wonks out there with good heads on their shoulders.
		And we advise rationality.
		That's basically all.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's basically all we do.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because here's the thing.
		If you have people like Louise Mensch on this side, and you have people like Alex Jones on this side, and then also back to the other side, you have Keith Olperman.
		The thing that sort of unites them is this idea of they have a savior complex.
		Absolutely.
		I'm going to save everybody.
		And that is a dangerous thing.
		Like I've said a bunch of times, I don't want to necessarily save anybody.
		I would love for people who are beholden to Alex Jones' false narratives to recognize that he's lying to them.
unidentified		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But I don't care if I do it or they just sort of have a breakthrough one day.
		This show is mostly just about clowning on an idiot.
		But at the same time, we got to address this savior complex thing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I agree.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Who better than Alex Jones to talk about it for a little bit?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Otherwise, it is a pendulum.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		My transition game blew it again.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Edit this out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones has some thoughts on the Savior complex.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		We need it now.
		And to the intelligence community of this country, your patriotic duty is clear.
		In many respects, in the months since the election, you have provided your greatest service in our history.
unidentified		A democracy that has lost its political way.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		It staggers down the street like a drunk and lurches towards the gutter, yet you have walked a virtually bipartisan straight line, and you have followed your rules, and you have followed the rules of the civilian.
unidentified		This makes me agree with Alex Jones that Steve Olberman is a britch.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		The evildoer threat to the freedoms of this nation.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now I'm interrupting the same time he is.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		God, I'm no better than him.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		The Trump junta is playing by no rules.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Pause again.
		The Trump junta.
		And the whole world's in danger.
		And only this guy, only this guy can save everybody.
unidentified		This is just over-the-top praises.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		And then Trump responds nicely back to all this that they're fucked about to get him.
		They're the enemy.
		And they freak out and go, we just want you dead or overthrown or foreign governments to overthrow you.
		We're just saying you're the devil.
		We're just saying you're a dictator.
		How dare you not come to our press dinner?
		How dare you lie about you?
		What's your problem?
		We're supposed to be in charge and no one's supposed to resist us.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So, I mean, come on, that's cockamami bullshit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That's cockamame bullshit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But like, sure, sure.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Oberman's being a blowhard.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oberman's a bitch.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But at the same time, such a blowheart.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This isn't an Oberman podcast.
		This is an Alex Jones podcast, and we know him, him being like, oh, you think you're the only person who can say, like, I'm the only person who can save the world from global.
		Exactly, right?
		That's what's energizing him.
		That's why he has his wrinkles up.
		Is that the expression?
unidentified		Hackles.
unidentified		Hackles.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hackles up.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, or something in his wrinkles.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He's wrinkled.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right, he's wrinkled.
		But that's why.
		That's why it is this like, again, you're on my turf.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're on my fucking turf.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And I don't agree with the way you're presenting the world.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think it really is that.
		I think you're absolutely right.
		What we're seeing is Alex getting to parallel a liberal Alex Jones.
		A little bit.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's not nearly as evolved as Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, no, no, no, absolutely not.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But the point being, Alex gets to come at him from this, like, your left-wing propaganda.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You know what it is?
		You know what it is?
		It's like Alex being us watching his show.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		It is so much like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck you.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Except Alex.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck you, Dan.
unidentified		Except Alex's lies still permeate it.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like he's still lying about everything, but he's watching this back.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck this shit.
unidentified		You're this asshole.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So we kind of get a glimpse of what our podcast would be if he was.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If we didn't bother about information or news or sources or anything along those lines.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Totally.
		And this next clip is a fucking awesome rant.
		Again, totally petty.
		And it gets into that idea of what he's attacking really when he talks about like pseudo-intellectual shit.
		It's all appearance-based.
		And man, this is fucked up.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		Talk the FBI director and let him find out about it by reading a TV news crawl in the back of the room in which he was addressing his Los Angeles office.
		They have no rules.
		For now, the rest of us who only want our democracy back, we can have no rules either.
		We will take the risk of reestablishing the rules later on.
		What you in the FBI, in the CIA, in the Justice Department have on Trump, we also need now.
		Because by tomorrow, it may disappear, and your ability to do anything with it may disappear as well.
unidentified		What the world is.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		Some of us here in the outside have tried the best we could to prevent this day.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		Others less so.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is Alex going to interrupt?
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It's so hard to listen to this guy.
		I apologize for even playing it.
		But this is a mindset into these people.
		They've done everything they claim Trump's doing.
		They have sat there and assaulted this country, tried to demonize it, tried to pull it down, tried to take our freedoms, shipped our jobs overseas, written books about how they've done it.
		They have celebrated and celebrated and celebrated that they, the globalists, they, the leftists, they, the communists, they, the Soroses, they, the Nazi collaborators, have control of our churches, our kids' minds, the FDA.
		They can brainwash us, they can fluoridate our water, they can push deadly seeds on us.
		They can absolutely attack all our basic institutions, steal our money, perch on top of us, and then put always these same guys like Stephen Colbert and Oberman and all of them in these pseudo-intellectual little suits, little nerdman, non-threatening, you know, encounter, brain bug, know-it-all, good boy, teacher's pet, psychopath outfits.
		You know, Ted Bundy, the famous psychopath, dressed in gray suits with black ties, done.
		Argument made stole.
		Just like that.
		Um, Ted Bundy.
		Because he'd drive around non-threatening, picking up young college girls and high school girls to torture him to death.
		Like, we're going to go to the psychopath outfit they wear to look non-threatening.
		I'm not saying he's going to kidnap your kids and kill them.
		He wants to kidnap your country and strangle it to death while he tells you you deserve it.
		That's keep over, but he thinks he's better than you.
		He thinks he's beaten you.
		And he realizes he's losing and has now been kicked to the curb, and he's panicking.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's so much projection at the end, though.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is the most projection.
		He realizes he's losing and he's panicking.
		God damn it.
		Alex, Alex, mirror.
		Mirror.
		Meanwhile, Alex.
		Meanwhile, Alex, sit down with that bottle of Johnny Walker.
		Look in the mirror and just listen to yourself.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		There's a lot of people who used to wear gray suits and black ties.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Nope.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nope, Ted Bundy.
		Ted Bundy.
		What were you saying?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ted Bundy!
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're at seven and a half hours.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so much nothing.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We've edited out three hours of this, ladies and gentlemen, so far.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		So much nothing, though.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We're coming to the end of this, but it's like it's tough to, when we've had a lot of stuff that is factual based that you can respond to.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you can be like, oh, no, here are Trump's donors who are way worse than Goldman Sachs, probably.
		Here is the truth about nuclear programs.
		It's really tough for you to be like, this guy dresses to try and trick you.
		I don't know.
		I don't care.
		I am not easily duped by a person.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Don't you have like a Fortune magazine article on how many people who dress like that are serial killers?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		What about the percentage of the global population that dresses like that?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		That is also a serial killer.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I don't know how I would find that stat, but also.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Well, then you're no good to me.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's a stat that I can tell you.
		Alex Jones 100% again was doing that.
		Like, he dresses like that.
		I'm not saying he's trying to get your kids.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, no, I picked up on that too.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, he's just doing that again.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like, I don't want to get sued again, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Exactly.
		I'm going to walk this back.
		I'm going to give you the same insult that I would have six months ago, but I'm going to walk it back this time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Now he wants to choke your country out.
		That's good enough.
		Safe harbor.
		You're fine.
unidentified		Yep.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's metaphorical enough.
		So now this next clip is just Alex Jones fucking losing his temper really hard.
		And now, flashing back to the beginning of the episode, him talking about how he's in control.
		Listen to this clip.
		And if he's in control of himself and he's saying this, all right.
		All right, buddy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		You know, they were pointing out in there that the last time I played an Oberman clip, I started having a meltdown as well, and I was actually throwing stuff during the breaks.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right, buddy.
		I mean, that clip wasn't like him screaming, but that's a horrible thing to learn.
		He was throwing things during the break because he had listened to an Olbermann clip.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex Jones is my greatest enemy.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I disagree and can disprove most of his worldview.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If not all.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He makes me really mad when I listen to him.
		Yes.
		But all I do to deal with that anger is laugh show.
		I laugh, and then I think about how fun it's going to be when I prove him wrong.
		That is how I deal with it.
		I don't necessarily, when I'm at work and I'm listening to him, I don't like, ah, throw my computer across the room or something like that.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Now, in his defense, that's pretty much what I'm here for, right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Like, I'm.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Throwing my computer across the room.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm the physical manifestation of your anger towards Alex Jones.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm the guy who does that.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You're laughing too.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I am laughing.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This screaming is mostly you just externalizing surprise.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not really rage, although there is rage embedded within it.
unidentified		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		No, I don't go home anything but visibly shook by the reality that we live in.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I don't want to break things.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, Alex Jones does.
unidentified		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Because he can't control his temper.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		He absolutely is a little baby.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
unidentified		God is.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He's a baby man.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Mr. Baby.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		If he weren't the butt-boy of Trump, man, I bet he'd still have his kids.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Maybe.
		But you know what?
		I'm going to be perfectly honest with you.
		I don't.
		It's hard to say.
		I think if he.
		This is tough.
		My bigger theory is his life is being ruined by his own supplements.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, fuck.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Are you saying that we're talking Superman Vitality as some testosterone kind of shit?
unidentified		Yes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And so he has ramped himself up with way too much testosterone, like somebody who takes steroids all the time.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And he's experiencing all of this anger and rage because of this added inability to control his behaviors.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yes, absolutely.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wow.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Our next episode is going to get into that a little bit.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		In that case, do not do that supersize me thing where you take a lot of time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		How fun would it be to have aggressive Dan for a month?
unidentified		I do not want to deal with aggressive Dan.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Listen, I have never had to restrain you before.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And I worry that you're going to be throwing stuff every time we listen to an Olbermann clip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		No, sincerely, that is a theory that I'm going to be working out over the course of a number of these time travel episodes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Okay.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Is that I think that you can track a very different.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		The philosophy in terms of the globalists and shit like that is absolutely the same.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Consistent.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		But the behavior, the frequency of outbursts, the inability to control himself is very much like he was as a child.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Like we talk about, and we've documented a number of times in our biography of him all of these incredibly violent outbursts, these fights that he'd get into.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Putting people in comas.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And you don't see a ton of that necessarily in his adult life.
		He's getting way closer to that now in terms of like you don't see it on the show, but he just admitted the last time he talked about Olbermann, he was throwing shit during the breaks.
		Now, I would also those sort of outbreaks are probably happening more than just when he listens to fucking Colbert or Alberman.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Colberman, if you will.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Well, I mean, both of them make him a bear man.
		And if he's exhibiting those sorts of behaviors, and I'm being a bit speculative here, I don't think he is right to be around his kids.
		Like, if he has that kind of hair trigger, that just something he disagrees with will send him into a rage where he breaks things.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Right.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's not someone who can be trusted around growing humans.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I think this is where we are out of our scope of practice.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		That's why I said I was being speculative.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
		I think this is the one where his kids are not living with him full-time.
		And I think if you listen to this podcast, you know that's probably for the best.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And again, I want to stress: don't buy his products.
		I legitimately think that they are deteriorating his mind.
		I think that there are negative effects you can track in him.
		Tomorrow we're going to be doing an episode, or it might come out later in the week.
		We're going to be doing an episode later this week about an episode from 2014.
		And we'll see.
		Wildly a market difference in him.
unidentified		So, anyway, let's finish this shit out.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		We got one more clip.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		This is the end of his analysis of Olbermann, and it's dumb.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Let's finish up with Keith Oberman.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here he is.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		We could prevent this day.
		Others less so.
		Right now, it doesn't matter who did much when.
		You and the FBI, CIA, the other intelligence agencies, the Justice Department, you must be the Patriots now.
		You and the five eyes.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Stepping on Alex Jones' territory.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Not lecturing.
		Like everybody's three years old.
		You've got to be the Patriots now.
		It's horrible that Trump wants to secure our border.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Alex says that.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Do better trade deals all the time.
		The stock market's up $3 trillion and $300 billion in new jobs came in.
		That the steel mills are having the best production they've had in 60 years all of a sudden.
		And it's terrible we're not doing one-sided deals.
		And he killed TPP that was unelected.
		You've got to do what it takes and overthrow him, okay?
		Okay?
		Because it's a coup, so we have to overthrow him, even though he was elected.
		A counter everything he says Trump's done, they're doing.
		This is so illegal.
		Here he is.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		In the outfits around the world, too secret to have their names known to us.
		Who must become for the moment?
		We need what you have, and we need it now, and we need it made public.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Pause.
		So give us all your dirt.
		Give us all your made-up garbage, which there isn't any.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		There is.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I mean, it's incredible.
		The Clintons are on the Chinese and Russian payroll.
		The globalists have sold the country.
		They're not.
		And the Trump's trying to get sovereignty back.
unidentified		And they're the ones running around saying he's what they are.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Here it is.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, right.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		It is more than just the fate of this sloppy but well-meaning country that is at risk.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Oh, it pauses.
		This sloppy but well-meaning.
		Oh, I'm sorry we're sloppy.
		I'm sorry I had my show for a decade running down America every day.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		But it's not what he's saying.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Because I like it now.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		If foreign governments help overthrow this evil president.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		So do you, Al.
keith olbermann ▲ ● ▼		Our faults, for good or bad, we cannot be left as a fascist rogue state and an enemy of freedom and international comedy.
		The fate of all freedoms may rest in your hands and your willingness to not merely hint, but show what you know.
		If we go under, you are next.
		The freedom you save will be your own.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I get a little blowhardy.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Yeah, fuck you.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Fuck Olberman.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Fuck Olberman.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Man, that guy's phony reading off a teleprompter in that Ted Bundy kidnapper outfit he wears.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Ted Bundy kidnapped her out.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Somebody who has been involved in regime change.
		As a co-author with Tom Clancy, and formerly worked in Special Operation, Black Ops, State Department, you name it.
		There's a psychiatrist and doctor in law and more.
		Steve Pachenic popping in.
unidentified		Wait a second.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Take the calls the next hour.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Wait the fucking second.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		He just did 35 minutes screaming.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We're going to go to a guy who has been involved with the regime changes that we do all the time.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		And has claimed on my own show that he was involved in a coup against our government.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Holy fuck.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Hey.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Nothing is real.
		Hey, Dan, I think I hear something at the door.
		Let me open this door real quick.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's probably a bill collector.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Don't answer it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		I'm going to open this door.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Creek?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		You busted.
unidentified		No!
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's so stupid.
		Like, all of that is so stupid.
		We've just recorded four hours.
		The punchline is this regime change guy is my guest.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's fucking so stupid.
		I don't get it.
		I don't get it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		God damn it.
		I thought we were going to bookend it with the clip a couple of clips ago.
		This one, perfect.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Actually, I forgot to play our out-of-context drop, so I might as well do it now.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Here's a bookend for you.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		It isn't that Trump doesn't know how to use technology.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		He doesn't trust it.
unidentified		He thinks robots are evil.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		All right?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Do you understand?
		It isn't that Trump doesn't love Chimeras.
		It's that he doesn't trust them.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		It's not that he's a 70-year-old man who is spooked out by handheld devices.
		He doesn't understand mobile phone technology.
		It's not that.
		He just doesn't trust it.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		And frankly, based on his situation regarding leaks and recordings, he's probably smart not to trust anything.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I wouldn't either.
		So good spin.
		We got to get out of here.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		We do.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		How many hours are we at?
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Four.
		Four.
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jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Oh, for sure.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Or you can email us at knowledgefight at gmail.com.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		I was about to say something that's off air.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Knowledgefight.com is our website.
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dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		If you are still listening and you haven't left a review, Rapaport still lives on iTunes now.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Also, if you're still listening and you haven't left a review, dude.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		What the fuck?
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Anyway, you are invested in us, and maybe it's time to leave a review.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yeah.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Rapaport still lives.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Rapaport still lives.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Also, if you want to donate to the show and become a policy wonk, you can.
		There's a link on knowledgefight.com.
		And if you would like us to do a time travel episode to a specific date.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		$10 a month.
dan friesen ▲ ● ▼		Yep, and we would be happy to do it.
		But until next time, we'll catch you soon.
		But Rapaport still lives.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Rapaport still lives.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes ▲ ● ▼		Hello, Alex.
unidentified		I'm my first time caller.
unidentified		I'm a huge fan.
alex jones ▲ ● ▼		I love your work.

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