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April 12, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#29: April 11, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan about something bizarre that happened on the April 11th episode of The Alex Jones Show. Topics include: Is Alex's childhood pet a guiding metaphor for his life? Why was Alex's dog named "Nonk?" Is Alex's mom responsible for Alex's horribly toxic masculinity? Do we need to leave Earth?

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alex jones
12:01
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dan friesen
01:02:26
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jordan holmes
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alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We're a couple dudes who like to drink red wine and sit around and discuss.
The merry ways and pranksterish days of Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
He's Pan now.
That's what we're talking about?
He is.
He's got goat legs and everything.
dan friesen
He's a fawn running through the woods.
jordan holmes
I buy it.
What a world it would be if he was.
dan friesen
If he was just some sort of Bacchus-like character.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Just bringing all sorts of weird, awkward feelings no matter where he goes.
dan friesen
He does do that.
But here's one thing that separates Alex Jones from Pan.
Alex is never having fun.
jordan holmes
Boy, that's a good question.
What does Alex do for fun?
dan friesen
Kills things.
He likes to hunt.
jordan holmes
That is on brand.
I'm glad he's on brand.
dan friesen
Fill in the blank with anything Americana and manly.
And I think that's where he lives in terms of fun.
jordan holmes
That's my guess.
What do you think his barbecue is like?
dan friesen
Oh, Nelly.
jordan holmes
He's probably good at barbecuing.
dan friesen
I would assume so.
He lives in Texas.
There's a lot of good grilling opportunity down there.
My parents live in Austin.
jordan holmes
There's some good grilling opportunities out there.
dan friesen
It's warm most of the year.
My parents live down there, and every time I go visit around Thanksgiving, my dad's super excited to have smoked a turkey.
Out in the old smoker.
He's got a meat smoker.
I imagine Alex Jones gets into some of that business.
unidentified
I gotcha.
jordan holmes
So what's the twist on this podcast?
dan friesen
I speculate a lot about Alex Jones' grilling habits.
jordan holmes
And I don't know anything about his grilling habits at all.
dan friesen
The real twist is I listen to Alex Jones every day and you don't.
jordan holmes
I do not.
dan friesen
So today, Jordan, we're going to be going over something that happened on the April 11th, the Tuesday episode this week.
Of the Alex Jones show.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Now I want to give a little bit of context.
This is fortune smiling upon me.
jordan holmes
Oh!
Alright.
dan friesen
This whole week, the last couple of days, Sunday through Tuesday, have been essentially Alex talking about Syria being a false flag.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Insisting that every piece of evidence backs him up.
He talks about how like, even Putin said it's a false flag.
Oh, great.
Oh, great.
unidentified
Cool.
jordan holmes
I buy it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Great source.
So far, he's been very trustworthy across the spectrum.
dan friesen
Of course.
There's an interview with Ron Paul that was on RT where he says it was a false flag.
jordan holmes
Ron Paul was on RT saying Syria was a false flag?
dan friesen
RP on RT.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Well, actually, now I'm back on Ron Paul's side.
You know what?
I left the Libertarian for a while.
Now I'm back.
Now I'm back.
dan friesen
He's like, there's a 0% chance this was Assad.
Alright, whatever.
jordan holmes
I mean, there's not a 0% chance.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
There's not a 100% chance, though, either.
dan friesen
No, much like you can't tell without DNA testing if a duck is a duck.
You can never be certain of things in life.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and believe me, one of the ways to learn is not DNA testing.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
Also, he has an interview that he plays.
He didn't conduct this interview.
It was on the BBC with a former ambassador to Syria.
His name is Peter Ford.
Right.
And he's talking about how...
jordan holmes
That's an Americana name, of course.
dan friesen
But he's British.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but that's why Alex Jones is cool with putting him on his show.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's the...
Well, actually, the real reason he's okay with it is because of what the fuck he says.
But he's a former UK ambassador to Syria.
He ended his tour of duty or whatever in 2006.
And he is basically saying that because Trump has bombed them after a gas attack, it gives...
Any ISIS members there, a really good motivation to fake another one if they want to lure us into war.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He says that.
That's what the interview says.
Alex Jones insists that this is proof that the gas attack that has happened is a false flag and that this ambassador to Syria is even saying it, which isn't technically true.
It's sort of implied, but he doesn't actually say that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Further, I did a little looking into this ambassador's past.
And he has been roundly criticized by tons of organizations for being pro-Assad.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
He is very unimpartial.
jordan holmes
So he may be searching for any possible explanation that doesn't implicate his boy, Assad.
dan friesen
He's done some appearances at lectures and stuff.
jordan holmes
But at the same time, that is a technically true thing that he said, wherein if I were the leader of ISIS, which...
I am not.
dan friesen
Thank you for clearing that up.
jordan holmes
Allegedly.
unidentified
I would say if we could swing that false flag on our own, then yeah, we got a good shot at the holy war we've been searching for.
dan friesen
Exactly.
unidentified
And I mean, that line of logic does make sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
So basically what we're saying is Ford is giving them the plan.
dan friesen
I'm sure they'd thought of that already, but it doesn't track that that means that the attack itself was a false flag because Assad has a...
Horrible record of attacking his own people and using unconventional weapons.
jordan holmes
Well, you could say horrible record.
You could also say he has one of the best records ever.
dan friesen
Certainly.
jordan holmes
In that he's really good at it.
dan friesen
So, Alex has been making this argument across the board.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And he's doing it in order to try and defend Trump.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's saying that Trump is like, he knows this, he's just doing this as a show of strength.
We kind of went over that a little bit on the last episode.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
The thing that's interesting is he's been twisting it, and he's been blaming everybody.
So it started with Kushner.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Who, as we know, Steve Bannon has called a globalist and a cuck.
jordan holmes
He is a cuck!
Whether or not he's a globalist is yet to be seen.
But Cuck, I think we can all agree.
dan friesen
So he's like, it's Kushner.
It's Jared Kushner.
jordan holmes
He tricked him.
unidentified
Cuckner.
jordan holmes
That's what we call him from now on.
dan friesen
Bingo.
So Cuckner is like...
jordan holmes
Now that's my favorite thing.
dan friesen
He's a secret Democrat.
All this stuff.
And he's like, okay, he's a neocon, globalist, whatever.
Then Alex switches and he's like, you know it was Ivanka.
He blames Ivanka.
He's like, oh, that's fun.
And now on Tuesday's show...
jordan holmes
Ivanka is Cuckner-ing Cuckner at this point.
That's what we're doing now.
Okay, I gotcha.
dan friesen
That doesn't stick for very long.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
So now on today's show, because we're recording this on Tuesday, Alex is like, it's Tillerson!
jordan holmes
Yes!
Excellent!
dan friesen
So everyone's getting the blame.
jordan holmes
Everyone but Trump.
dan friesen
Everyone.
jordan holmes
So the buck stops everywhere but Trump.
dan friesen
Yes.
And to be fair, Tillerson makes sense.
He is an Exxon CEO, and...
Oil is very heavily involved in Syria.
There's a pipeline issue that is very real there.
jordan holmes
Well, also, he's a billionaire and he has no feelings or thoughts or emotions.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
He's just evil, just pure capitalism personified.
dan friesen
It seems fully uninterested in staffing the State Department.
jordan holmes
He hates being the Secretary of State.
dan friesen
But he doesn't want any deputies either, apparently.
jordan holmes
No, which seems so odd.
If you don't want to do the job, just get other people to do it for you.
You're a billionaire.
That's your entire life.
dan friesen
Well, actually, Mike Cernovich has an interesting theory about that.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
Mike Cernovich was on last week or so, and he was breaking a big scoop, and that is that the pedophile army...
unidentified
Oh!
dan friesen
The globalist elite pedophile army have compromised the people who give out security clearances.
So the reason that all of the jobs in the government aren't staffed, it isn't because Trump hasn't nominated anybody for those positions.
jordan holmes
Which he hasn't.
dan friesen
He has not.
It's because whenever he does try and nominate somebody, these globalist pedophile elite controlled security clearance people are like, no, no, no, no.
You're a patriot.
Get out of here.
jordan holmes
That is maybe the dumbest conspiracy theory I've heard yet.
dan friesen
It's wild.
jordan holmes
That one is out there.
dan friesen
So anyway, all this shit's been going on, and I don't want to talk about it, like I said on the last episode.
I didn't want to cover it.
What we were going to cover today was that today, on the Tuesday show, April 11th, Alex Jones had Michael Savage back on.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
And Michael Savage, I think, is starting to smell the roses.
jordan holmes
Okay, so he's starting to bail on Trump.
dan friesen
Not so much, but he's starting to realize, oh fuck, we got screwed.
jordan holmes
He's laying the groundwork.
dan friesen
He's definitely starting to be like, I trust Trump, but he's going to fuck us.
He's getting us into World War III, basically.
I don't understand how you didn't see this coming, first of all.
They go hard on Tillerson, and they're like, he's an oil CEO.
Of course he's interested in this pipeline.
jordan holmes
Which is a reasonable thought.
dan friesen
You know that we all knew this when he was nominated.
They're screaming about how he's connected to Goldman Sachs and all this shit.
jordan holmes
He is.
Goldman Sachs runs most of his cabinet at this point.
dan friesen
The whole time Alex, since the election, once Trump started nominating people, Alex was like, yeah.
He's getting Goldman Sachs people in, but these people all have a history of fighting the globalists.
unidentified
Yeah.
All right, you're just making shit up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's what the right wing has been doing.
They got defeated by Fox News.
Yeah.
Fox News, they were like, oh, this is our propaganda wing.
We can tell other people.
And then it got out of their control, and now everybody believes the dumb shit that they were selling people.
Before.
They didn't realize that, oh, oh, right, right, right, right.
We were lying.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They forgot that part.
They just got swept up in it.
They're like, look at how much fun this is to hate black people.
unidentified
Hooray!
jordan holmes
Especially when one's the president.
And then all of a sudden it got out of control and now they're like, yeah, we know that Trump...
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
We're coming for a, like, real weird alt-right hangover.
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
And it's not going to be fun for anybody.
jordan holmes
Oh, you are so optimistic in saying there will be people.
dan friesen
There will be anybody.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
The hangover will be eternal slumber.
dan friesen
I was fascinated by this Michael Savage interview, and that was what we were going to cover.
And I regret not pulling one clip from it.
jordan holmes
You didn't pull any?
dan friesen
I didn't pull any, because what happened right after the Michael Savage interview.
This was like the God smiling down on me.
Like, I was like, I don't want to cover this stuff.
I know we're ten minutes into the episode now, and we've been talking about what he's been talking about.
But I don't want to do a whole episode talking about this war shit, because it's so whack.
I just don't care.
And I'm like, I don't want to talk about it.
We've got to record an episode.
jordan holmes
Just like crack, war is whack.
dan friesen
Yeah, I was like, please just give me something.
And, you know, like Jesus, Alex Jones works in mysterious ways.
jordan holmes
You are building this up crazy far.
dan friesen
You know what?
It is worth it.
jordan holmes
Okay!
dan friesen
Because this is going to be...
And I want to say this.
He's sober.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
And it's one of the craziest things I've ever heard.
jordan holmes
So we're getting full power Alex Jones.
Full force AJ.
dan friesen
Yes, but he has some...
jordan holmes
Bringing some hard crazy.
dan friesen
But he still has some of his drunk characteristics.
But you can tell that he's not drunk.
But when I brought up the...
I regret not pulling one clip from the Michael Savage interview.
There was a point where Alex is like, they've taken Trump's phone away from him.
jordan holmes
Thank God!
dan friesen
And Michael Savage is like, what?
They've taken his phone?
jordan holmes
They've taken his phone?
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Then who will tweet at us at six in the morning?
dan friesen
And then Alex is like, yeah, whenever you call him now, he's like, you know, we got his cell phone and that's how we always talk and now you call him and the Priebus is there.
jordan holmes
So that does confirm our theory that Alex Jones has Trump's phone number.
dan friesen
No, he's probably making that up!
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
The premise that the president's chief of staff is holding his phone hostage.
And answering his calls for him on his personal cell phone seems absurd to me.
But then again...
jordan holmes
Are you shitting me?
That's the most reasonable response to anything that's been going on so far.
dan friesen
But nothing that's happened is reasonable, so why start now?
unidentified
Exactly.
jordan holmes
That's my feeling on it.
Well, that's a good point.
I forgot.
I forgot.
We're already past that.
No, if you were...
dan friesen
That's the definition of rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
It's like, let's have someone else answer his fucking phone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but I mean, as long as he's not tweeting...
The administration is doing better, I guess?
dan friesen
All right.
Homeboy's crazy.
What do we do?
I don't know.
unidentified
Take his phone.
dan friesen
Get him a secretary.
unidentified
All right.
What?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's got plenty of secretaries.
dan friesen
But I think...
Look.
jordan holmes
Guess how old they are and what gender?
dan friesen
Young?
Trans?
unidentified
No.
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Listen.
No.
Sorry.
But look.
Okay.
jordan holmes
He's not Eddie Murphy.
Alright, that's a good one.
dan friesen
I regret not pulling that clip because it's really funny that Alex is like, I gotta talk to Priebus now.
That's fucking hilarious.
jordan holmes
Like a little whiny child?
dan friesen
But thank God this happened.
He came back from break.
He leaves Dr. Savage.
Michael Savage interview's done.
Savage is mad.
jordan holmes
He's furious.
Alex Jones is mad.
Everybody's mad.
dan friesen
So Alex comes back from break, and I apologize also that I don't have an out-of-context drop for this episode, but quite frankly, all of this is an out-of-context drop.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I have cut this up into about one-minute segments, so it's more digestible, but I want to make this clear.
I have not cut a single fucking word from this 13 minutes.
I have not changed any context.
I have not edited anything.
jordan holmes
So it's one solid 13 minutes that you have chopped into one minute chunks.
dan friesen
Yes, absolutely.
And here's how it starts, and believe me, it doesn't stay on this topic for long.
alex jones
They call me anti-Semitic whenever I talk about George Soros being a Nazi collaborator.
What's crazy is they even show clips of what I say in the article like I did something wrong because I'm against George Soros and because I'm not against Israel.
It's like they think they have authority because of the New York Times, the Washington Post, or the Forward, or Vanity Fair, because they're mainstream media, that if they just say it, it is.
I learned a long time ago with bullies, they'd sit there and punch me in the face and think I was going to fall over.
When I didn't fall over, they were like, you didn't fall over.
I was like, no, now you're going to fall over.
Truth is, I wish well on everybody, whether they're in Israel or Iran or Japan or Venezuela.
When I see somebody falling down and somebody not doing well, I don't feel good.
jordan holmes
Nope.
alex jones
And I have a soft side that tends to get me then to sell out my own personal freedom to try to save somebody.
But you learn you can't save a drowning person.
dan friesen
Can't save a drowning person.
jordan holmes
Nope, not possible.
dan friesen
Also...
jordan holmes
You know how nobody's ever saved a drowning person before?
alex jones
Never.
jordan holmes
Never.
dan friesen
That's why there are no lifeguards.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's like a vestigial position.
It doesn't exist anymore.
Like Miller.
Wait, Miller's probably still exists.
jordan holmes
Miller's totally still exists.
dan friesen
Eh, who cares?
It seems like an old-timey job.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
So the clip starts with...
People say I'm anti-Semitic.
jordan holmes
I love the rhythm there, too.
It started out like a song, like...
People say I'm anti-Semitic.
When I say George Soros helped murder the...
Yeah.
dan friesen
Just because I lie about him being a Nazi collaborator.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That is anti-Semitic.
jordan holmes
People say I'm anti-Semitic because I single him out for his Judaism.
dan friesen
Because I malign the Jews.
unidentified
Like, Alex, what the fuck are you talking about?
dan friesen
Like, you...
It's that...
Anyway, the more important thing is you were air guitaring.
jordan holmes
Yes.
And it was fantastic.
dan friesen
This is the second instance on the show.
Right before he talks about people calling him anti-Semitic, he was karaoke-ing along with this song.
jordan holmes
Wait, it was on the show?
Yes.
He knew the show was on.
dan friesen
I think he had to have.
jordan holmes
It wasn't like this is what he does every time they go to break is just him karaoke-ing.
dan friesen
They've got an elaborate studio.
There's an on-air sign.
I mean, he had to have known.
He's just singing along with this song.
It is awesome.
jordan holmes
I do not count anything along the lines of he had to have known.
There is no he had to have known in this world.
dan friesen
That's a fair point.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones may not never know anything.
dan friesen
I'm so furious because I was watching the episode live and he started saying, I'm like, I can't wait to cut this clip.
I can't wait to get this.
And then I go back to the rebroadcast.
They cut it out.
So I don't have a copy of it.
In the rebroadcast, they edited out his karaoke.
So he karaoke'd this song.
Earlier in the show, he karaoke'd Amarillo by Morning by George Strait.
jordan holmes
And they took them both out?
dan friesen
They come back from break earlier in the show, and it's Amarillo by Morning.
Which, by the way, is a banger.
It's a great song.
So he starts, he's like, Amarillo by Morning.
And then it cuts.
And you can tell it cuts because the song jumps.
And he's like, my daughter loves that song.
You know, and she's...
She's like, why is this man doesn't have a dime?
And he's like, honey, it's a story.
It's a song, but it's a story.
About a bull rider.
unidentified
Like, alright, fuck off.
dan friesen
I'm legitimately furious that I don't have audio of that.
And, if we could get this show to take off and I don't have to have a job?
I can just get it live.
So donate to the Patreon, because I want audio that we can play of Alex Jones karaoke-ing.
jordan holmes
That is pretty much the holy grail.
That's why they cut it out, of course, is because they didn't want people grabbing that and putting it elsewhere.
dan friesen
100%.
jordan holmes
Because what if a show like ours existed?
unidentified
Exactly.
jordan holmes
They have outsmarted us this time.
dan friesen
Yeah, baby.
unidentified
We'll get you next time, InfoWars!
dan friesen
So, you are anti-Semitic for talking so much shit on very specific Jews and lying about them, especially in relation to their Judaism.
You can save someone who's drowning.
And now, again, I didn't edit anything.
This is exactly where the next thought is.
alex jones
But you learn you can't save a drowning person if they're trying to claw you under and push you down.
When I was a little kid, we had a German Shepherd.
It was a great dog named Nunc.
Got hit by a car when I was a little kid.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Where is this going?
alex jones
She couldn't take that dog.
To the lake.
In fact, you couldn't take him to a friend's house with a swimming pool because the dog was in the house.
He'd bust down the screen door to get to you and claw you thinking you were drowning.
Kind of the reverse of someone trying to push you under when you save them.
It was the other way around.
And look, none of us are perfect.
None of us have all the answers, but I just want prosperity.
And is she a future for humanity?
dan friesen
What does that mean?
jordan holmes
What was that?
dan friesen
You think you can't save a drowning person metaphorically.
jordan holmes
Then he talks about Nunk.
Nunk, the dog who wouldn't let you drown.
unidentified
Which is the reverse.
jordan holmes
Who is some sort of dog superhero.
unidentified
It's as if he has an inverse ability to use metaphor.
dan friesen
He's like, okay, I'm trying to make a simile here.
Let me go with the exact opposite of what I'm talking about.
And then, after he tells the story about the dog who doesn't relate to his point, he's like, Listen, I just want prosperity.
jordan holmes
No!
What is he talking about?
dan friesen
These thoughts don't track.
He is all over the map.
jordan holmes
But that is the proof that he is, at the very least, subconsciously being shaken.
He's not ready for Trump to go away.
He's not ready for Trump to not be his man anymore.
dan friesen
He's not ready for people to actually pay attention to him.
jordan holmes
He's in an abusive relationship.
dan friesen
With himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, and the administration and everything.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
He just keeps going back to Trump like, oh, Trump, if you got to know him, he'd be a really nice guy.
And then Trump bombs Syria.
dan friesen
This 13-minute clip is evidence that he can't handle doing his own show anymore.
And that's why he's been having so many goddamn guests on lately.
He's having Roger Stone on almost every day.
He's having Mike Cernovich on all the time.
He's having Jerome Corsi show up a whole bunch.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Savage has been on twice in the last two weeks or so.
That's a big get for that world.
For that world of crazy wingdings.
jordan holmes
It's nuts.
So he's not...
dan friesen
He's been taking...
jordan holmes
He's not okay.
dan friesen
He's been taking tons of calls this week, too.
jordan holmes
Wow!
dan friesen
Which has been making me really want to call in.
And I might.
jordan holmes
Oh, you've got to.
dan friesen
I might start bop-a-booing him.
jordan holmes
You have to call him.
unidentified
I might do that.
jordan holmes
You have to.
dan friesen
I might just be like, Alex, you okay, bro?
You okay?
But, uh...
I want to make this public statement, too.
Alex Jones is fucking stupid as shit.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
But compared to his callers, he is a goddamn genius.
These callers are fucking so stupid.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
With one exception.
One lady called in the other day and was like, hey, I supported Trump.
I never voted before.
I thought this was going to be a big change, and we're all being fucking played.
Why don't you get that?
Why don't you...
jordan holmes
So this lady became a hero.
dan friesen
Alex immediately clicked.
jordan holmes
Boom!
Get out!
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Puts her on hold.
And he asks her, like, why do you feel this way?
And she brings up the idea of this pipeline through Syria that, you know, you want to get to Iran so Russia can get the oil and what have you.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And she's like, why haven't you covered that?
All you do is talk about all this other stuff.
You talk about false flags and all this shit.
Why don't you talk about that pipeline?
And Alex Jones is like, ma 'am, we have covered it.
And then his staff scrambles to find any fucking proof that he's covered it.
jordan holmes
Anything.
Just a little clip.
Just anything.
dan friesen
And it's flimsy.
His evidence that he has covered it.
But then he's like, hey, why do we got an infight?
I have covered it.
And I was like, oh, I love this lady.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
She was a Trump supporter, which I don't like so much.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
But you got chutzpah, ma 'am.
I'm into it.
I enjoy it.
So anyway, yeah, he can't handle it.
jordan holmes
That's a woman who doesn't like being fucked, metaphorically.
dan friesen
Indeed.
jordan holmes
Or metaphysically.
Yeah, well, everybody likes a little metaphysical fucker.
dan friesen
I like a metaphysical handjob.
So this goes on.
Let's see what else he wants to talk about.
alex jones
And I see CNN going, oh, look at the alt-rights all upset.
Trump's starting all these wars.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
How dare you not be for wars?
And I'm just like, you people have no soul.
You're corporate shills.
Fox News is like the World War III channel right now.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
At least China and North Korea have threatened people.
Syria didn't start this war, didn't do jack diddly squat, except be a place where Jews, Christians, and all sects of Muslims could live in peace.
Women went to college and could be doctors.
jordan holmes
He is talking about Iran in the 80s.
alex jones
I talked to all the ambassadors and CIA people that have been there.
They tell me after Jordan, it's the best place in the Middle East other than Israel.
We're having some basic freedom.
unidentified
Yeah, but the Bulls never recovered after Jordan.
jordan holmes
I mean, we got Rose, but then Rose went down.
It's just weird.
We're just never recovered.
dan friesen
Keeps breaking his knees and allegedly sexually assaulting people.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Look, I don't want to say that Syria didn't at one point be a wonderful place to live.
jordan holmes
It wasn't.
dan friesen
But Syria is not innocent.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Assad has done some horrible shit.
jordan holmes
Like, to the point where you say, you know, Assad's almost killed as many Syrians as we have.
Like, that kind of level of monster.
I mean, it's...
What the fuck?
He was so close.
He was so close.
Because we agreed with him at the beginning.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
At the beginning of that clip, he was like, Fox News is the World War III channel.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, but so is he.
jordan holmes
I'm looking at Knowledge Fight going, we've got two things we agree with him on, maybe raise that up to three.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know what I should do?
jordan holmes
And then he just goes straight to fucking, Syria used to be a good place.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
I should change that number of things we agree with him on the website to days since we've agreed.
jordan holmes
Since we've agreed, yeah.
That's way better.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're right.
dan friesen
You're right.
jordan holmes
You're correct.
dan friesen
But, like...
I completely lost my thought.
I don't know.
This is the first time in 30 episodes I've just completely lost a thought.
jordan holmes
Well, he's clearly talking about Iran in the 80s.
dan friesen
I think so.
jordan holmes
Before we regime changed Iran.
dan friesen
Oh, here's what it was.
jordan holmes
When they were a lovely, liberal, perfect place.
dan friesen
All Alex does is talk about nuclear war breaking out with North Korea and the chai comms and shit like that.
Him accusing Fox News of being World War III channel?
Hoo boy.
Hoo boy, pot kettle action there, my friend.
jordan holmes
Uh, yeah.
dan friesen
That's insane.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but they're doing it wrong.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's Alex Jones' main point.
No, you guys sound like you want to attack.
We have to pretend that they attacked us first.
We got a false flag.
dan friesen
And they're not, like, pretending that they have fake sources that are really high level.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He keeps also...
jordan holmes
Well, they just have sources who are really high level telling them fake things.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's just a mashup of different words when we get into the right wing areas.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
It's just mix and mash.
It's a...
Yeah.
dan friesen
Lately, Alex has been being like, I got this from an inside-the-white-house source about as high up as you can go.
jordan holmes
Priebus?
dan friesen
No, it's fucking Bannon.
jordan holmes
Priebus answered his phone, though.
dan friesen
Oh, he could have been gabbing with Priebus.
jordan holmes
He could have.
Look, I'm telling you, on this one, I think that is exactly how it would go.
dan friesen
But he hates Priebus.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, that's why he's really mad that Priebus is answering the phone.
dan friesen
And giving him information?
Alex's leak is Priebus?
jordan holmes
Just the fact that Priebus is talking to him tells him everything he needs to know.
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess so.
jordan holmes
He's reverse-engineered it.
dan friesen
I talked to a high-level White House employee the other day just because Priebus answered the phone.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
That counts!
dan friesen
Right, whatever.
So, he goes on.
alex jones
People want to bash Israel all day, so I just weigh Israel like I weigh other countries, and I go...
jordan holmes
400 pounds.
alex jones
Okay, Israel is this tiny piece of land, and then Saudi Arabia has more wealth than any other country, probably, for their elite.
Not per capita wealth, but for their elite.
Per capita wealth would be like South Korea.
Overall wealth would be something like Switzerland.
jordan holmes
Per capita wealth.
alex jones
The United States after that.
jordan holmes
South Korea.
alex jones
For wealth of elites, I mean, Saudi Arabia is, they are like 30,000.
Princes or something.
I'm going to your calls in a moment.
And the average one is like $5 million a year.
The big ones get billions a year.
Hundreds of princes get billions a year.
Oh, you're a prince.
Here's billions of dollars.
They've got whole cities, for whatever reason we don't know, that are air-conditioned.
jordan holmes
Whole cities that are air-conditioned?
alex jones
Big plastic tents that are like three-bedroom houses that can house millions of people.
And they don't take one refugee, and then they sit there and they lecture Israel how they should take, quote, Palestinians, and that just means Arabs getting out of their countries and going to Israel.
unidentified
Oh!
dan friesen
A lot to unpack there.
jordan holmes
Really, really doesn't understand the whole Israeli-Palestine thing.
dan friesen
Not one bit.
jordan holmes
Not take Palestinian refugees, it's your...
Killing Palestinians and stealing their land.
dan friesen
In this instance, you're even misunderstanding the bullshit that he's saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's probably true.
dan friesen
He's saying that Saudi Arabia refuses to take a single refugee, particularly the Syrian refugees.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that the Syrians are going to Israel.
They're saying, Israel, you've got to take them.
And then once the Syrians get there, because they're Arabic, now they're Palestinians.
That's what he's saying.
jordan holmes
Oh, that makes sense then.
dan friesen
But I also want to say this.
jordan holmes
That's what he's saying.
dan friesen
Basically.
jordan holmes
I was giving him far too much credit.
Because that makes zero sense.
dan friesen
Saudi foreign ministry officials claim that the nation has received nearly 2.5 million Syrians since 2011.
However, the BBC reports that Saudi Arabia has led in 500,000 Syrian refugees since 2011.
While Arab News reported that Saudi Arabia was already home to 500,000 Syrians.
jordan holmes
Okay, so...
So we're saying that Saudi Arabia is lying about taking in 500,000 refugees because there were already 500,000 refugees?
dan friesen
No, that's an addition.
jordan holmes
That's an addition?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
So that would be a million Syrians total.
dan friesen
500,000 is the low-end estimate that people are giving.
Whereas Saudi Arabia itself says it's 2.5 million.
So it's somewhere between there.
jordan holmes
So let's call it in between there.
dan friesen
I'll tell you what, it's not zero.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's definitely not zero because it's a million times more than the number we've taken in.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, since a couple months ago.
We were taking in quite a few before.
jordan holmes
Not really.
dan friesen
We were taking in some...
jordan holmes
We were taking in very few.
dan friesen
Should have taken in more.
jordan holmes
Should totally have taken in more.
dan friesen
But before old man Trump got involved.
jordan holmes
Old man Trump?
dan friesen
Before old man Trump got in the house.
We were taking in some.
Agreed.
We should take in more.
But be that as it may, Alex's whole narrative is busted there.
jordan holmes
No, that's the dumb.
dan friesen
They don't take in any.
But now...
Fucking millions of princes getting billions of dollars in air-conditioned cities.
jordan holmes
Does he not understand money or science?
A tent?
Did he say they have three big air-conditioned tents that house millions of people?
dan friesen
He's talking about refugee camps that allegedly are empty.
This is something I haven't researched, but I don't think is true.
I can't speak to this, but he likes to make the claim...
That, like, Saudi Arabia has these giant refugee camps that are air-conditioned, and just for giggles, they don't let anyone live in them.
jordan holmes
That is pretty funny.
dan friesen
It's a great prank.
jordan holmes
That is a pretty funny prank.
dan friesen
Yeah, Johnny Knoxville sitting there like, I should have thought of that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I should...
He just doesn't have the seed money for it, though.
dan friesen
No, that's true.
jordan holmes
Jackass 4 has really got to raise a lot of money.
They would need a Saudi prince to fight us, that shit.
dan friesen
One of those 300.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
I think he's thinking of the Spartans.
jordan holmes
300?
unidentified
300 princes get billions of dollars a year.
dan friesen
Some of them get billions.
jordan holmes
Most of them get millions.
Most of them get millions.
And I love his quote.
You just get billions of dollars because you're what?
Saudi prince?
And then moving on.
And that was it.
dan friesen
Well, I mean...
Trump's kid's got millions of dollars just for being...
jordan holmes
No talking!
Fake news!
dan friesen
Just for being...
jordan holmes
Fake news!
What?
Are they just some sort of royalty that because their parents are wealthy and with power, they get to be wealthy with power too?
I mean, we should get rid of the estate tax.
dan friesen
But again, let's just try and keep track of what he's talking about and how this all fits from clip to clip.
It's going to be very difficult.
jordan holmes
Oh, is there a narrative arc to this?
dan friesen
There's not.
jordan holmes
Because so far I've seen very little...
Even clause to clause we're dealing with completely different subjects.
dan friesen
There's no narrative arc, but that's what I want to keep track of.
Again, I have not cut out anything from between these.
jordan holmes
This is a full 13...
Okay.
dan friesen
This is literally...
There's nothing that like...
There's...
Okay.
I could see Alex wishing that I had...
Been, like, sitting here before you came over and just been giggling and taking out all the words that make this make sense.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
But I didn't.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
I had no time to do that.
I just got off work.
jordan holmes
Now I kind of want to just write a transcript down for the rest of the episode, word for word.
Ugh.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Then we'll put it in the book.
dan friesen
Here's the next clip, and I want to say within about two or three clips, we're going to get into Juice City.
Juicy stuff.
But we're still a little bit in the preamble.
Which, if this is the preamble and it's this fucked up...
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't...
I still...
Okay.
dan friesen
You're starting to maybe get a sense why I called this manna from heaven.
jordan holmes
I'm still...
Wait, so the dog's name is Nank?
dan friesen
Nank!
jordan holmes
Why do they name the dog Nank?
dan friesen
They aren't Saudi princes.
What are they supposed to name it?
jordan holmes
Alright.
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Alright, here we go.
alex jones
It's not that I'm even against Israel or for Israel.
I don't say that like I'm on some fence.
I get to see the Jewish newspapers in Israel attack me all day and make crap up because I'm not anti-Israel like George Soros.
I mean, I get it.
I can't be allowed to have any credibility.
I'm not George Soros.
I mean, I understand.
unidentified
I just know Israel isn't running the world.
alex jones
The globalists are running the world.
jordan holmes
Wait.
dan friesen
What?
What's up?
Why are you confused?
jordan holmes
All of that.
All of that.
Okay, so...
It's not that he's for or against Israel, though in our previous clips from this very episode, he has said he's very pro-Israel.
Jewish newspapers are attacking him constantly.
dan friesen
Well, there was that one because he kept talking about the Jewish mafia led by George Soros who helped Nazis in World War II.
jordan holmes
But they're attacking him.
He gets to see him every day attacking him.
dan friesen
Every day.
jordan holmes
Because he's not...
Anti-Israel like George Soros.
So is he saying that the Jewish newspapers, notoriously state-controlled Jewish newspapers, are anti-Israel?
dan friesen
I think that if you're really trying to track his sentence, that is what he's saying.
jordan holmes
Because I was really trying to do that.
unidentified
Do you want to listen to that again and see if it makes sense?
jordan holmes
Which was very difficult.
dan friesen
You should listen to this again.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
alex jones
Start from square one.
Against Israel or for Israel?
I don't say that like I'm on some fence.
I get to see the Jewish newspapers in Israel attack me all day and make crap up.
jordan holmes
He gets to see them.
dan friesen
But he did say the Jewish newspapers in Israel.
He's not talking about some American Jewish newspaper.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Jewish newspapers in Israel attacking him for what?
alex jones
Because I'm not anti-Israel like George Soros.
I mean, I get it.
I can't be allowed to have any credibility.
I'm not George Soros.
I mean, I understand.
unidentified
Huh.
alex jones
I just know Israel.
jordan holmes
What is Israel?
alex jones
Israel is around the world.
The globalists are around the world.
dan friesen
Which again is an anti-Semitic canard.
jordan holmes
That does really screw up his whole thing.
dan friesen
No, it doesn't.
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean the globalists is thinly veiled anti-Semitism.
dan friesen
But he doesn't know that.
I don't think he gets that.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's a good point.
dan friesen
I think that he thinks they're different.
But they're not.
jordan holmes
Wait, so you think the globalists are Jewish?
dan friesen
I don't think the globalists exist.
jordan holmes
You are racist.
dan friesen
The Jewish newspapers are going to be writing about me.
jordan holmes
Oh, if only you were anti-Israel like George Soros.
dan friesen
But if I'm anti-Semitic, maybe they'll write a good piece about me.
jordan holmes
Who knows anymore?
Down is up!
You have to pronounce my little pixie stick backwards.
dan friesen
Oh no.
I love a pixie stick.
jordan holmes
Otherwise it'll follow you.
dan friesen
Oh shit, that's so dumb.
jordan holmes
That's unbelievably dumb.
dan friesen
More to the point, I do, I mean, this just came up just now, and I think it's fascinating that you didn't quite understand this premise, that Alex doesn't understand that the belief in the globalists controlling the world is thinly veiled anti-Semitism.
jordan holmes
I assumed he knew that on some level.
dan friesen
You thought that he was consciously anti-Semitic and just choosing to ignore that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
No, I don't think he knows.
jordan holmes
You think he has no idea?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Based on his inability to read...
Based on his complete lack of self-awareness.
I think that he read this dumbass book when he was 12, got this wild hair up his ass about the globalists, and he's gone down that road not realizing that every single cobblestone along the way is anti-Semitic.
He has no idea.
He's that dumb.
jordan holmes
He is Mr. Magoo!
dan friesen
He is an intellectual magoo.
jordan holmes
He is just wandering blind and somehow he's become successful.
He has no idea what's going on ever.
dan friesen
Well, that's because I think a lot of the people who do listen to him get it and think he gets it.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
jordan holmes
How could you make any other conclusion?
dan friesen
Well, because I think a lot of anti-Semitic people are big fans.
jordan holmes
Of course.
And if you were listening to Alex Jones regularly, and you were anti-Semitic, boy, you got plenty of ammo to support your argument.
dan friesen
To be fair, most of the conspiracy community, the only complaints they really have about him is he's not anti-Israel enough.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So, like...
jordan holmes
But if he were George Soros...
dan friesen
Man...
jordan holmes
If he...
Were George Soros.
dan friesen
Were he to be a Soros?
jordan holmes
Have we seen the two of them in the same room together, first of all?
dan friesen
No.
Boy, that would be a fucking bad dinner party.
jordan holmes
That would be the worst.
That would be like a drawing room mystery dinner party in the 20s.
Wait, who killed Dan?
dan friesen
Oh, he killed himself.
unidentified
By the end of this night, we shall know who the killer is.
dan friesen
Oh, Dan committed suicide to get away from this bullshit.
Dan tried to get Alex to shut up.
It didn't work.
unidentified
Next time.
jordan holmes
Though you had incentive to kill Dan, you did not.
You are not the murderer.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones.
dan friesen
So here's the thing you need to know about Alex Jones, though.
Despite all this convoluted nonsense and him being a complete idiot, what you need to know...
jordan holmes
I do know that.
Don't point at me this hard.
dan friesen
That's not what you need to know.
unidentified
What you need to know is that he is a man of principles.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
I just get so sick of the pseudo-intellectual sitting back going, hey, Alex, tell us how Israel runs your life, or the Vatican, or...
Let me tell you what runs my life.
My conscience runs my life.
My conscience is so strong that even though some things probably aren't good for my family, I do the right thing no matter what's going on.
And that's not because I'm some wonderful person.
I've got an operating system that I'm not a dirtbag psychopath.
jordan holmes
It's a lion.
He's still running lion on OSX.
alex jones
Perfectly right.
But I want to do because of the flesh.
I'm guilty for that.
jordan holmes
I think he's talking about fucking people.
dan friesen
I think he's talking about hookers.
jordan holmes
He's talking about hookers.
That's crazy.
He always does the right thing.
But, you know, if he fucks, he fucks, you know?
dan friesen
The guy's got to get a nut off.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
What the fuck is that?
What is that?
jordan holmes
He's telling a lot of truth.
I don't think he wants to tell us.
dan friesen
Well, but he's like, I'm guided by my conscience.
And sometimes my conscience is so strong.
That I have to do things that are bad for my family.
What the fuck does that mean, number one?
And then second, his next thought is, hey, if sometimes I get tempted by the flesh, I've done something wrong and I feel bad about it.
jordan holmes
Like pay for multiple abortions.
unidentified
Wow!
dan friesen
But that's not of the flesh.
That's just being a coward.
jordan holmes
What do you mean that's out of the flesh?
That means he's fucking some people that he doesn't want to have a kid with.
dan friesen
That's fair.
But it could still be a partner of some sort.
jordan holmes
It could be.
dan friesen
But what I said, him paying for multiple abortions is him being a coward.
I don't mean that if you get an abortion, you're a coward.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I mean, because he's who he is.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Because he yells about responsibility and those sorts of things.
jordan holmes
And he does not always do the right thing.
dan friesen
Yes, absolutely not.
But that's fucked up.
jordan holmes
That is fucked up.
dan friesen
That's more evidence of my argument he has absolutely no self-awareness.
So the idea that he wouldn't know he's being a big anti-Semite and bigot makes sense if he thinks he's guided by his conscience.
unidentified
Right.
Because he's not.
jordan holmes
And if he's guided by his conscience to screw hookers, then he's always doing the right thing.
dan friesen
But you know what?
My conscience sometimes tells me I've got to pay a lady for sex.
She's got to go to school.
She's got to get her education.
She's got to pay for college.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
You know, I'm doing the right thing here.
jordan holmes
You are a hero.
dan friesen
I'm an absolute hero.
jordan holmes
Who else is gonna take care of her?
dan friesen
Nobody.
jordan holmes
Nobody.
unidentified
Me.
jordan holmes
She's a prostitute.
dan friesen
Dan, that's who.
jordan holmes
Sex workers without Dan, what would they do?
dan friesen
Let me be clear, I've never gone to a hooker.
I'm not against it, just never have.
jordan holmes
I prefer not to use the word hooker.
dan friesen
I apologize.
Sex worker.
I just wanted to make that clear.
jordan holmes
Only hookers would say something like that.
dan friesen
I just don't want someone to take me out of context, much like everyone else does to Alex.
You know what they do?
They do take Alex out of context all the time.
jordan holmes
If only they had a 13-minute long straight clip of him being batshit insane.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, hey, you know what?
The compulsion to lie about him is strong.
And you know what?
He has some thoughts about that.
alex jones
I don't want to talk about myself all day, but, you know.
When you're being attacked in 100-plus newspapers a day, every day, sometimes 1,000 newspapers, sometimes 5,000, sometimes every paper in the country, they're so controlled, and every major NBC, ABC, CBS, NBC affiliate will attack me and lie about me, and I've got to sit there and I've got to take it.
jordan holmes
He sounds like he's going to cry.
alex jones
I've got to take weak-minded people on the street that don't know that's a lie, and I've got to sit there and watch them disdain me and hate me.
And it doesn't hurt me when they're hating me because of my ego.
jordan holmes
Oh, it so hurts you.
alex jones
It hurts me because they're deceived.
jordan holmes
It hurts him so bad.
dan friesen
He is such a victim.
jordan holmes
This has gone...
How many clips have you played?
dan friesen
That was number seven.
Now, keep in mind, not all of them are a minute long.
We're probably four minutes into the clip.
jordan holmes
We're only four minutes into the clip.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
This goes places you could not possibly predict.
jordan holmes
I've already gone through a weird emotional rollercoaster here.
dan friesen
And again, I stress, I cut nothing out.
jordan holmes
He's mad at billionaires who are from Saudi Arabia not taking refugees.
dan friesen
Air-conditioned tents.
jordan holmes
Air-conditioned tents.
Jewish newspapers are attacking him.
He's got no positive or negative stance on Israel.
He does have a pro-Israel stance, though.
dan friesen
His dog was nonk.
jordan holmes
His dog was nonk.
And now he's starting to...
Cry a little bit because he feels like, and he does feel it.
dan friesen
Oh yeah.
jordan holmes
Like you can hear it in his voice.
He's like, I don't understand why people are being mean to me.
dan friesen
Why is everybody picking on me?
jordan holmes
I'm just trying to tell the truth.
I'm just a Texan trying to tell the truth.
dan friesen
He really thinks he's being bullied.
jordan holmes
He really does.
dan friesen
He doesn't realize that he is the bully.
It's so crazy.
It's absolutely, it's so delicious.
jordan holmes
It's like the extreme, you know, the phrase, like, everybody thinks they're the hero of their own story.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, everybody, but some people gotta know they're the villain, right?
Some people gotta know.
dan friesen
Some people gotta know they're the Goebbels.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Of the story.
jordan holmes
And Alex Jones has no idea that he is the actual evil here.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And even in his persecution.
He has to be megalomaniacal and say it's sometimes every newspaper in the country.
dan friesen
I did some research on it, actually, in terms of daily newspapers.
In 2014, there were 1,331 daily newspapers in the United States.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what I thought.
dan friesen
I mean, it's a downward trend, so you could probably say there's maybe about 1,000 daily newspapers in the United States.
I'm going to say two of them have ever covered Alex Jones.
unidentified
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Well, the New York Times did do that profile.
dan friesen
That's one.
jordan holmes
That's one.
And then we got...
dan friesen
Washington Post maybe did like a piece on him or something like that.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
I would go with...
dan friesen
Or Austin Chronicle maybe.
jordan holmes
The Toronto Star.
Is that an American newspaper?
dan friesen
No, sir.
jordan holmes
Is that a hockey team?
dan friesen
I think it is.
That's the Toronto Maple Leafs.
jordan holmes
Maybe?
dan friesen
We do not know our hockey!
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Although congratulations on Cubs season starting, by the way.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
I'm very excited about that.
jordan holmes
It's very exciting.
dan friesen
It has nothing to do with anything.
Nope.
So anyway.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, it's run by the Ricketts, who are absolutely globalists.
Aren't they Trump people?
Oh yeah, they totally are.
Even though the globalists don't exist, if they did, the Ricketts would be right on them.
dan friesen
And Ricketts is a disease, right?
Isn't it an old person disease?
jordan holmes
It sure is.
dan friesen
Anyway.
There's no way a hundred newspapers a day are talking about Alex.
jordan holmes
There's no way.
dan friesen
Zero chance of it.
But again, it goes back to what we talk about all the time.
This perception of victimhood.
He has everything as an attack.
He's always under attack.
Paranoia.
jordan holmes
Combined with...
That kind of megalomania, where it's not just that people are attacking him and he's a victim of people, it's that the entire system is attacking him, which gives him that inflated importance that he wants so badly.
dan friesen
But you would describe that sort of thing as kind of mental illness, probably, I would assume.
jordan holmes
I would probably describe it as a certain type of paranoid delusion.
dan friesen
Interesting.
This is going to make this next clip a little bit uncomfortable, then.
alex jones
And I think about what it'd be like to be them, because they're slaves.
You know how I get over it?
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
Austin, Texas, is a big side of homeless people, because the city doesn't run them off.
And they've gotten rid of the mental institutions the last 20, 30 years, so there's schizophrenics and people all over the streets.
And almost every major four-way stop in downtown Austin, way out 20 miles outside the city, has got schizophrenics begging for money.
And they're so whacked out of their brain half the time, they're not even asking for money.
I don't give money to the con artists that are out there, but I see somebody missing their legs or whatever, a diabetic.
I give them some money, but I see those schizophrenics.
They're having arguments with themselves.
They're talking to the wind.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
Holy shit.
He cannot hear that.
That is, if he were self-aware, he would have to have been like, oh, there but for the grace of God go I. I am so much like these people.
Yeah, did he?
unidentified
Oh!
dan friesen
It's so tone deaf.
jordan holmes
He didn't connect any of those dots.
dan friesen
No, no.
But you're getting this.
Everyone's being brainwashed by the media thinking I'm a liar.
Everyone, I don't, I feel bad.
Because they are so misled.
So to make myself feel better, I go and look at crazy people.
I go look at crazy homeless people.
jordan holmes
That is kind of what he meant there, or what he said.
I think what he meant was he gives away money to...
dan friesen
Well, not to the con artist.
jordan holmes
Not to the con artist.
dan friesen
But I 100% don't think he could tell.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
So he's really...
unidentified
Well, meh.
jordan holmes
They do know their own.
dan friesen
He's talking a big game about how severe the homeless problem is in Austin, Texas.
So I pulled up some statistics.
And the number one city in America for homeless population...
jordan holmes
LA.
dan friesen
New York.
jordan holmes
New York.
dan friesen
75,323 at the last count.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Below that, Los Angeles and the surrounding county is 41,174.
We go down to Chicago, that's like seven on the list with 6,786.
Just too many.
jordan holmes
Too many.
dan friesen
Austin is a little over 2,000.
So, I mean...
jordan holmes
Austin is a smaller town, I think, you know, like, relatively speaking.
dan friesen
It's still a pretty big urban center.
It's a hot city.
The temperature, the climate is much better than Chicago.
Yeah.
Look, I don't want to brag about our homeless population or anything like that.
jordan holmes
That's a weird thing to brag about.
dan friesen
We are definitely in a place where we are far more regularly in contact with the mentally ill.
And he's talking about them shutting down mental hospitals.
The part of town that I live in, Rom did shut down.
A mental hospital around here.
And it's absolute tragedy to see a lot of the times.
jordan holmes
Fucking Reagan.
It goes all the way back to that horrifying monster of a man Reagan.
dan friesen
Now here's my point.
I can understand what he's saying in terms of like, I've experienced this wandering around and seeing the tragedy of life gone wrong.
I don't use that as self-care.
That's not how I make myself feel better.
jordan holmes
If you were a schizophrenic that made it out?
dan friesen
I don't think I still would.
jordan holmes
It's kind of like that small town homeboy story, except for it's all schizophrenics.
They look at Alex Jones and be like, our boy done good!
Our boy done got out of here!
dan friesen
It's just so bizarre to me that that's his response to seeing mentally ill homeless people.
It's like, hey, you know what?
I feel better about the...
Rest of the population, I guess?
jordan holmes
No, he feels better about him.
dan friesen
I guess he explains a little bit more in the rest of this clip, so I should let that play, and then we can get back to this.
alex jones
And I realize, here I am conscious, aware of geopolitical systems, tied into things probably nobody else is.
Very few, let's just put it to you that way.
Not on a power trip to say that, but because I've followed this path this far down.
And then every now, deeper I go, The connections, the discernment, the trust I have with people only intensifies.
I look at the public.
They're like mentally ill schizophrenics talking to themselves.
Somebody makes fun of me in a restaurant or comes over and knocks my drink over with my family.
Or somebody slaps me in the back of the head.
I'm at the beach with my kids.
Says, hey, racists ought to beat your ass, you Trump supporter.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
I cannot get up now and take them down because I realize they're a victim.
And I don't take any pleasure in that.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
Does that make it better?
jordan holmes
I have no idea.
Does he think these things are actually happening?
dan friesen
Does he think these thoughts are connected?
jordan holmes
That's a good question.
No, does he think people...
Does he...
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Because that did not happen.
People did not go to a restaurant with him and his family and knock his drinks over.
dan friesen
I can't imagine it did.
jordan holmes
That didn't happen.
dan friesen
It's within the realm of possible, but it's very unlikely.
jordan holmes
He definitely wasn't hit on the back of the head at the beach with his kids.
dan friesen
And someone was like, hey, I want to kick your ass, you Trump supporter.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not a thing.
dan friesen
If they did do that, they'd be like, I'm going to kick your ass, Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
Everyone knows exactly who you are.
unidentified
Also, he's on the beach.
jordan holmes
How do you know he's a Trump supporter?
Is he wearing a...
unidentified
MAGA!
jordan holmes
He's wearing his MAGA hat.
unidentified
MAGA hat.
jordan holmes
All times.
dan friesen
MAGA Speedo.
MAGA Speedo.
G. G over the dick.
jordan holmes
I would wear a MAGA Speedo.
Make America's dick great again.
dan friesen
The idea that someone would want to beat him up for supporting Trump is like...
In my mind, that's the...
jordan holmes
He's low on the list of things you want to beat Alex Jones up for.
dan friesen
It's like number eight.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Way low on the list.
dan friesen
It barely ranks.
jordan holmes
But again, it sounds like he believes these things actually happened.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He sounds really convinced these things actually happened.
dan friesen
I imagine when he was out at a restaurant, someone bumped into him, and he knocked over a glass accidentally, and he took it as like...
That guy poking knocked over my glass.
He's probably in with Hillary.
jordan holmes
Right.
Maybe somebody hit him with a frisbee.
dan friesen
Is that John Podesta throwing that frisbee?
jordan holmes
Is that John Podesta throwing that frisbee?
dan friesen
Might have been.
jordan holmes
That's my new game show.
dan friesen
He loves frisbee golf.
He loves extreme.
Anyway, I also want to say that that clip doesn't make his stance on viewing the mentally ill any better.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no.
It provides more ammunition for him being personally mentally ill.
dan friesen
Well, he fakes crying and is like, everyone is like this but me.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You know.
Like a person without mental illness does.
dan friesen
Like a schizophrenic person does.
unidentified
Yeah!
Yeah!
jordan holmes
Exactly like that!
dan friesen
Oh, man, he just needs to sit down with John Rappaport so he can tell him that the DSM-IV isn't real.
No, don't worry that you fit this diagnosis.
jordan holmes
Look, let me...
Here, let's just do it one more time.
Let's just go down the list.
You tell me which things you believe.
Okay, persistent feelings of paranoia and everybody's out to catch you.
Oh, that's not...
We're not off to a good start.
dan friesen
Wait, I thought you were being Rappaport.
jordan holmes
I am being Rappaport.
Even in this scenario, Rappaport starts to be concerned at number one.
dan friesen
Hey, don't judge me.
unidentified
Hang up that painting.
dan friesen
Hang up the goddamn painting, Rappaport.
jordan holmes
I got my DSM for you.
unidentified
Number one, do you hang up fucking paintings?
jordan holmes
No?
Alright, well then you're the one who's crazy.
dan friesen
How has Alex not noticed that, by the way?
jordan holmes
I have no idea.
unidentified
John Rappaport's been on for years with that painting.
jordan holmes
Maybe more importantly, why is this driving us insane?
What is it with this fucking painting?
unidentified
Because it's the littlest thing.
It's the smallest thing and it's so bizarre.
dan friesen
I'm not interested in why he doesn't get a better microphone that doesn't totally showcase his denture mouth.
I don't care about that.
jordan holmes
Who gives a shit?
dan friesen
Live your life, Rappaport.
You like the headset?
I got it.
It's cool.
jordan holmes
Is it set deck?
Does he have a set decorator?
On hand to put this whole set together every time.
dan friesen
Specifically to drive us crazy?
jordan holmes
Specifically to drive us crazy.
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
Like the set decorator from the Addams Family.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Who just like, how do we make this room look a little bit more decrepit?
dan friesen
How do we get it just slightly off?
jordan holmes
I know.
An unhung portrait.
dan friesen
That would be super weird.
jordan holmes
It would be terrifying.
It would drive two people insane!
dan friesen
This is the closest that we come to you and I being, like, on Mystery Science Theater.
Us being driven nuts by John Rappaport not hanging up the painting.
Anyway, hang it up, Rappaport!
jordan holmes
And Mystery Science Theater comes back this Friday.
dan friesen
It does.
It's very exciting.
jordan holmes
Very exciting.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
Yes?
dan friesen
This clip is about to take a turn.
That you could not possibly predict.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
We've already been crying after princes get billions of dollars.
dan friesen
Again, cut out nothing.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Cut out nothing.
Alex was just talking about how he doesn't want to beat up people who are dumb and have been tricked.
jordan holmes
He doesn't take any joy in it.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Because they're victims.
dan friesen
I guess if he did take joy in it, he could beat up victims.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
But again, it's just evidence...
jordan holmes
He has insinuated that he would like to beat up victims in the past.
dan friesen
He certainly emotionally and verbally beat up plenty of victims.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Especially these refugees that Saudi Arabia is taking in.
But anyway, this next clip...
Hold on to your fucking hat.
unidentified
Alright.
dan friesen
Because this is weird.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I'll tell you this.
Before we go to Dominique and everybody else has been holding like patriots.
I realize something that is fundamental to our species and this planet and this great experiment we're part of.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck.
alex jones
If the species is destroyed through war, genetic engineering, natural disaster, everything our species did before us, everything our ancestors did to survive is destroyed.
dan friesen
That's not the crazy part.
That's not.
jordan holmes
I mean, that's kind of just accurate, I guess?
dan friesen
I just wanted to stop there to point out that he just realized that.
jordan holmes
That can't be real.
He has to have thought about that before.
dan friesen
Of course, if the world blows up, it doesn't matter what happened in Greece.
No one's going to remember.
The annals of history go away if the world ends.
jordan holmes
Did he not realize that?
dan friesen
Apparently not.
jordan holmes
You really think he did?
Or...
Do you think he thinks his listeners didn't realize that?
dan friesen
Maybe he's trying to blow minds.
jordan holmes
I think that's more along the lines of what he's doing.
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
I think he knows.
I think he feels like he's the only person who knew that, who has thought this out in advance, is like, hey, I don't know if you idiots threatening nuclear war know this, but if you kill everybody...
Everybody's dead.
dan friesen
See, that's more aggressive than the fantasy version I had based on what we were saying.
I imagined him as the fake deep guy in a smoker circle.
You know, everyone's passing around a joint.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
unidentified
Did you ever consider that if the world ends, all history goes away.
dan friesen
Just pass the goddamn joint, Alex.
Now here's the part that is super fucked up.
Because again...
We've been talking about Saudi Arabia having air-conditioned tents.
jordan holmes
Israel.
dan friesen
Nonk.
jordan holmes
Pseudo-electorals.
Nonk.
dan friesen
Can't save drowning people.
jordan holmes
100-plus newspapers.
dan friesen
Everybody lies about Alex all the time.
jordan holmes
Can't save drowning people.
Can't save drowning people.
dan friesen
This is so weird.
Here we go.
alex jones
And so for me, we're in a long-term war for humanity to escape the planet.
dan friesen
Yup.
We gotta leave.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Alright.
Alright.
Now...
Now I see what's happening.
Now I see what's happening.
unidentified
You do?
You do?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's obvious.
It's obvious now.
We've put...
We've connected all the dots with that one sentence.
Everything makes sense now, right?
No, everything makes perfect sense.
We have to destroy the planet we're on in order to give us the proper motivation to get off this planet and spread throughout the universe.
How do we destroy the planet we're on?
dan friesen
Trump.
jordan holmes
Somebody must come to power who will facilitate the actual destruction of humanity.
dan friesen
Well, no, that's Bannon-ish.
I think that's Steve Bannon-ish.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But that's not Alex Jones-ish.
jordan holmes
And that's Alex Jones-ish.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no, no.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
No, I don't think so either.
But he doesn't know that he's the pawn of Steve Bannon.
dan friesen
That's probably true also.
jordan holmes
He's just a man who wants to see the stars.
dan friesen
Much like he doesn't realize he's anti-Semitic, he doesn't realize he's being played like a $5 fiddle.
jordan holmes
We're in a war to get off this planet.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
Who are we in a war with?
dan friesen
Ourselves?
jordan holmes
The globalists?
dan friesen
Time?
jordan holmes
Are the globalists trying to keep us from getting off this planet?
dan friesen
I don't know, because he always talks about how the globalists are a breakaway civilization.
I think he's afraid that they're going to go to space and leave us behind.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
Like Elysium.
Because he loves movies.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So I think that he has talked about that a whole bunch.
But, boy, I mean, none of these thoughts track at all.
But again, you...
jordan holmes
It's time to get...
It's time to...
Listen.
dan friesen
I'm listening.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones, get your ass to Mars.
dan friesen
And by Mars, we mean therapy.
But you agree with me, right?
I mean, he doesn't sound drunk.
jordan holmes
No, he is definitely not drunk.
dan friesen
Of all the times we've listened to him, we're like, this guy is drunk.
jordan holmes
No, this is not drunk.
This is not drunk Alex.
dan friesen
He's saying nonsense, but this isn't the right Hobo Jones.
jordan holmes
This is Alex Jones on the cusp of a breakthrough.
This is his brain kind of spinning around like a washing machine.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
He's on the cusp of figuring something out.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
You know what it is?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
This is Alex Jones when a guest has canceled.
He's had to talk to that lady on the phone that I told you about earlier.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And Buckley, his producer, is going, stretch it out.
unidentified
Stretch it out.
dan friesen
And he's like, fuck, I got nothing.
I'm sober.
What am I going to do?
Fuck, I don't know.
Talk weird about how I'm the victim and then talk about space, I guess.
I don't know.
Who knows?
jordan holmes
So you think he's just scatting?
You think he's just riffing straight off the dome?
dan friesen
I don't know, because I know where all this goes, and I don't think he had a thesis.
Like, based on how he started, it was talking about how everyone thinks he's anti-Semitic.
That's not how it ends.
That's not how it middles.
jordan holmes
So he doesn't resolve that conflict?
dan friesen
No.
Well, I mean, he kind of did with the Jewish newspaper bit, but, like, I don't know.
I don't know.
I've listened to this.
All the way through.
I don't know what the point is.
I know how it ends.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
You haven't listened to this, and I'm as confused as you.
jordan holmes
I'm trying to figure it out.
All I know right now is all of this is leading up to we need to steal billions of dollars from Saudi princes.
We need to use them to stop the Israeli globalist newspapers from criticizing Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Get those air-conditioned tents.
Bring them to Austin.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
What do you build in air-conditioned tents?
unidentified
Spaceships.
jordan holmes
This is obvious.
unidentified
Get these homeless people off the planet.
Shoot the homeless into space so Alex doesn't have to look at them anymore.
dan friesen
That's not what he said.
jordan holmes
That would actually be him being very, very sad.
dan friesen
So we want to talk about fucking sad.
This next clip is sad.
So he has just said that he...
It's a battle to get off the planet.
jordan holmes
Yes, it's a war to get off the planet.
dan friesen
Now, this next clip made me so bummed out.
And it might be an explanation for some of his toxic masculinity, unfortunately.
But you're like, how the fuck does that make sense?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You'll see.
alex jones
Planet's beautiful, I love it.
Just like I loved my mommy when I was six years old.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, no.
alex jones
When I was about six years old, she kicked me off her lap and said, you can't be a mama's boy now.
You don't get any more love because you're going to be a man.
unidentified
You don't get any more love.
alex jones
That's what it comes down to.
jordan holmes
Oh, we just figured it out.
That just happened right there.
We just got the flashback that explains everything.
dan friesen
That's the Rosetta Stone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's like whenever they do serial killer backgrounds, that's always the moment where you're like, oh, it began right there.
unidentified
His mom was emotionally abusive.
dan friesen
Like, I don't know if that was one incident that happened to him in his past, when his mom was like, you don't get love no more, you don't want to be a mama's boy.
jordan holmes
He did say...
She said, you don't get love no more, right?
Which is crazy.
He said, she said those exact words.
dan friesen
Which makes you think that it's probably an actual memory of his.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The fact that he's using a line of dialogue of hers.
jordan holmes
And he's not being overly specific like he normally does when he's lying about that.
dan friesen
He's not gilding the lie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's not like, I remember I was on the porch with my mama sitting on her lap.
She was wearing a floral print dress like the women did back in those days.
Sitting on a rocking chair, rocking back and forth, and then she slaps me and you don't get no love no more.
dan friesen
And I think that long pause is more an effect of like, oh, why did I say that?
Less that he's being actually really emotional.
And that's another indication that something is bullshit, is when he starts fake crying and stuff like that.
He's not overtly, like, I watched the video, he's not overtly, like, fake crying like he does when he's full of shit.
When he's talking about, mama kicked me off the lap, you know, that sort of thing, it's just sort of like, I think it might have happened.
I feel really bad for you.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a Peter-like stone that holds up that church right there.
dan friesen
My mom was not, like, the most attentive to my needs and what have you.
But she wasn't nearly that bad.
And I'm still dealing with it as a 32-year-old man.
I'm still in therapy talking about how my mom was way too distant when I was younger.
jordan holmes
You were sharing too much.
dan friesen
No, I'm not.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
I'm being real with it.
jordan holmes
You're just being Alex Jones.
dan friesen
But, you know, I'm dealing.
jordan holmes
I know.
Now you're making me really self-conscious.
Now I'm really, really...
I feel terrible about that smart-ass comment.
unidentified
No, it's fine.
jordan holmes
I'm so sorry.
Genuine emotion makes me feel uncomfortable.
dan friesen
Listen, our focus is ours.
jordan holmes
Suddenly we get very weird.
dan friesen
Jordan, how are you holding up in therapy?
jordan holmes
Dude, I don't know.
dan friesen
That's always the best answer.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I have no fucking idea.
jordan holmes
Man, who knows?
dan friesen
So his mom abused him.
Alex definitely had at least emotional abuse from his mom.
Agreed.
And, you know, he clearly hero-worships his dad, who's a CIA dentist of some sort.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And so it kind of makes sense, a lot of these really bad ideas about gender roles and about masculinity.
Don't be a pussy.
You're a man.
That reinforces even further all of these masculinity ideas.
Like, that's terrifying.
I can't imagine what that would be like for a child.
Although, I do know that when his mom threw him off the leg, that was at six, which is when he was reading military history books.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
Maybe, Alex Jones, you should have started relating more to your mother instead of reading military history books.
What did she like to do?
Did you ever consider that, Alex?
dan friesen
I wonder what she's like.
It's outside the scope of our show, but I'm very curious.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with...
Probably a lot nicer than we could ever have imagined.
Like, I bet she turns out to be a fucking saint, and Alex Jones is just a fucking lunatic.
dan friesen
Yeah, based on the fact that Alex is such a liar, I bet maybe she is a decent person.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I bet she's great.
dan friesen
I have no idea, but I do know that you wouldn't tell that story on air unless...
jordan holmes
I bet she would come on our show.
dan friesen
Oh, that would be great.
That would be great.
Look, whether his mom was the perpetrator of some sort of child abuse against him...
When he was younger or not.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
In his mind, she was.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
So regardless of our objective reality, which has very little bearing on this show, period.
dan friesen
But also, the bigger point is that whether she was the perpetrator or not, something fucking happened.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Because you don't come on air on your fucking nationally syndicated radio show and say something like that if there wasn't some sort of an incident.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't remember shit about when I was six.
At least not specifics.
Like, not a ton of specifics.
jordan holmes
But I'm assuming if your mom had told you you don't get love no more, you would remember that.
dan friesen
I bet if a neighbor's parent told you that, you might conflate it in your brain and think it was your mom.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's possible.
dan friesen
There's all sorts of things.
Or an aunt.
Or a grandma.
Or something like that.
There's all kinds of possibilities.
jordan holmes
Or, have we considered that his mom has actually been dead this whole time?
dan friesen
This is like a sixth sense thing?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Or, okay.
Theory.
dan friesen
I'm listening.
jordan holmes
His mom?
He died in childbirth having him.
So he has always had this resentment towards women for not being around in his life.
He was raised by a dad.
He was taught how to hunt.
He was taught how to do all of this stuff.
But he never had a female experience.
dan friesen
Because his dad remarried a wolf.
jordan holmes
Yep, that wins.
dan friesen
Very masculine.
jordan holmes
Yep, doesn't get more.
His man actually married a three-wolf moon t-shirt.
That's what happened.
dan friesen
Alright, so this next clip, I don't really know what to say about it.
alex jones
And our destiny is right there in our hands right now.
unidentified
The whole future, unlimited.
alex jones
Humans cannot even imagine what is in store for us.
jordan holmes
Chimeras?
alex jones
Our progeny will look back if we're successful on us as the heroes that laid the cornerstone for everything we do after this that is unlimited.
We have to escape this test.
If we destroy ourselves, there'll be other tests.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
No!
dan friesen
I'm not sure what that means.
jordan holmes
No!
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
One, you don't escape a test.
You either pass it or fail it.
dan friesen
The test he's talking about is the Earth.
jordan holmes
Right.
So we have to escape the Earth.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
And if we don't...
dan friesen
That's our destiny.
jordan holmes
If we don't escape the Earth...
dan friesen
No, no, no.
If we destroy ourselves...
jordan holmes
Right.
Then there's just going to be more tests?
dan friesen
Which we've already destroyed ourselves.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We'll all be dead, right?
No.
What?
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
Start that from the beginning one more time.
dan friesen
I don't know if I can.
jordan holmes
No, I can't.
There's a whole future.
There's a whole future.
Actually, you know what?
I just want to hear the last five words again.
dan friesen
I can't.
It's 40 seconds long.
Just listen to it.
alex jones
We're meant to.
unidentified
And our destiny is right there in our hands right now.
jordan holmes
Hallowed be their name.
alex jones
The whole future.
Unlimited.
Humans cannot even imagine what is in store for us.
Our progeny will look back if we're successful.
jordan holmes
What did he just say?
dan friesen
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
Humans cannot imagine what is in store for us.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that's what he was saying.
You know what the other thing that I've noticed about him a lot is?
I think maybe it's because he's Texan or whatever, but he makes me really mad a lot of the times because he has some similarities to Dusty Rhodes.
And I love Dusty Rhodes.
Sometimes when he gets worked up, because he's talking about, it's right there in our hands.
And I'm like, it kind of makes me think of the Hard Times promo, where Dusty Rhodes is talking about, my hand is reaching out for your hand!
I'm like, Dusty Rhodes is great.
He is a working class hero.
He's everything I love.
And Alex Jones sucks.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones is the polar opposite.
dan friesen
Yeah, it kind of makes me bummed out that he has some sort of...
jordan holmes
He's the Lex Luthor to his Batman.
dan friesen
He's the Ric Flair to this Dusty Rhodes.
It sucks that the verbal similarities are there, though, because sometimes it just gets up in my head.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's just everybody from Texas.
That's what they sound like.
alex jones
On us, as the heroes that laid the cornerstone for everything we do after this.
That is unlimited.
We have to escape this test.
jordan holmes
That is literally the definition of history.
Every generation is looked back upon as being the cornerstone for what happened for the next generation.
dan friesen
Yeah, those who did things in the past have set the table for the present.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's everything.
That's everybody.
If we make it off...
They'll still be like, you know that guy Socrates, he was pretty cool too.
They're going to remember that.
Maybe not Socrates.
Maybe, let's go with Galileo.
dan friesen
I've lost track of what you're saying because I'm so excited about what's about to happen.
jordan holmes
Alright, let's bail.
I'm sorry, I'm just trying to figure out how he thinks history works.
dan friesen
Time is a circle.
He watched, you know what, I think he's watched True Detective.
I think that's what he's...
jordan holmes
He sounds like he's from Texas, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, all his beliefs about the elite sex rings and what have you certainly matches up with...
Anyway, this next clip actually is not what I'm super excited about, but the clip after...
unidentified
Hold on here.
jordan holmes
Tease it.
Tease it like a sex worker should.
dan friesen
Now, this next clip, this one I'm playing right now, I don't remember what it says.
The title of it is Lindsey Graham Sucks.
Fair enough.
jordan holmes
Lindsey Graham sucks.
alex jones
People like Lindsey Graham, people like John McCain, they want temporal power now.
jordan holmes
Now!
alex jones
They want control.
They want to show the planet they're in charge instead of chivalry and honor and building something true.
Not because others won't stab you in the back, but because you're going to trailblaze the path to the future.
dan friesen
It's interesting that he's...
jordan holmes
What the fuck is he talking about?
dan friesen
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
Those aren't words that make sense!
dan friesen
Isn't it interesting?
jordan holmes
You can't combine all those words!
dan friesen
Isn't it interesting that he's stammering and kind of, like, screwing up words more than when he's drunk?
unidentified
Yeah, he's just fucking lost.
dan friesen
He's clearly sober, and he's...
He said, we will be the ones who have laid the foundation.
He said, blade the foundation.
He fucked up a word in that sentence.
It's insane.
Like, when he's drunk, he's very clear.
jordan holmes
Now, he's like...
I think he's just kind of, I think he just doesn't care right now.
dan friesen
I mean, it does go back to my argument that he's just filling time.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he seems really sad.
dan friesen
Cernovich canceled.
jordan holmes
Like, he seems out of it.
dan friesen
I don't want to go back to the callers.
jordan holmes
No, we're not doing that.
dan friesen
They have burned me.
You know, that sort of thing.
That's what's going on in his mind.
He's like, ah, shit, that interview with Savage.
I really just got worried that his name wasn't Savage.
Because it sounds so stupid.
That interview with Savage didn't go as well as I wanted it to.
He seems to be veering away from Trump.
Oh no, what's going on?
Come back from break.
Do a little karaoke.
And then I'm going to talk nonsense.
jordan holmes
He might as well just be doing that.
unidentified
He basically does by the end of this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's all he's doing.
dan friesen
It's exciting.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
Alright, now we've built this up.
Built this next clip up quite a bit.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Now I want to say this.
Don't say a word over this clip.
jordan holmes
I'm not touching it.
I could already sense in advance that you would not want me to speak over this.
dan friesen
What I'm going to do is I'm going to stare at your face.
Of course.
Because I want to try and sense the exact moment that you realize what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because it's unclear at first, but then it becomes clear, and you will...
Revel in this bullshit.
jordan holmes
Alright, you're giving me a lot of credit.
dan friesen
This also might be a slight indication that he listens to our show.
Or, it's possible he's seen one of our tweets.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
One of the two.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But, oh man.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
alex jones
You look at China, you look at North Korea, you look at the things that are happening, and you can see how much danger this planet is in.
unidentified
You look at the things that are happening.
alex jones
That's why I get guilty when I get angry or say things tongue-in-cheek or my dog dies.
My dog had just died the night before.
Blood pouring out his nose and mouth.
I'm not complaining.
I'm telling you the story.
My dog had just died the night before.
I've been up all night long, burying the next day at my parents.
They were on vacation.
It was their dog.
It used to be my dog staying with me.
Blood was pouring out.
He was dying.
He chased the cat around for hours playing, had a heart attack, died, aneurysm, whatever it was.
Blood was coming out.
And I shouldn't have gone to work that day.
And I shouldn't have been up that night.
The tireder I am, the more I work.
At like 11 o 'clock at night saying, you call me a Russian agent, I'll punch you in the nose and all this stuff.
That was me just sad about my dog.
Because the truth is, somebody calling me stuff I'm not doesn't even really make me that mad.
unidentified
Yeah.
Whoa!
So...
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
What bullshit!
jordan holmes
Here's the even crazier part.
That just reminded me of whenever he said he had to beat his dog to death.
dan friesen
Well, no, he had to beat someone else's dog to death.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
dan friesen
Because he's dumb.
jordan holmes
That dog is dumb.
Wow.
So he's saying that instead of him being shit-faced, he was just sad over his parents' dog having a heart attack and blood coming out of its eyes.
dan friesen
Which is what happens when you have a heart attack.
jordan holmes
Is that what happens when you have a heart attack?
dan friesen
I think not.
jordan holmes
I don't think it is.
dan friesen
Also, I don't think that's what happens when you have an aneurysm either.
jordan holmes
No, I don't think so.
dan friesen
I don't understand the visual of it, but holy shit, that whole thing, we covered that entire episode.
We were drunk for two hours.
Again, I have pictures of the cup that he's drinking out of.
He's wasted.
I was just sad about my dog dying.
jordan holmes
You coward.
dan friesen
You fucking coward.
jordan holmes
We might actually be the only people who said he was drunk.
dan friesen
Yeah, I've never seen...
I've not seen that from anybody.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I've not seen that reported except for on Knowledge Fight.
jordan holmes
That we have breaking news.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And exclusive, we know when Alex Jones is drunk.
dan friesen
Or sad about his dog.
jordan holmes
Or drunk because he's sad about his dog.
I would drink if my dog just died.
dan friesen
You know what?
Totally fine.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm totally fine with that.
As long as he owns up, hey, my dog died and I got a little shit face.
dan friesen
The only thing that I agree with him, like the truth in there, is I shouldn't have gone to work.
jordan holmes
That is a really good point.
Also, he wasn't going to work.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That was all on his own!
dan friesen
That was in the evening.
jordan holmes
That was a special report!
He didn't have to do that, period!
It wasn't even like he was going to work!
dan friesen
Also, when he says it was at 11 o 'clock at night, he's lying.
It's time-stamped.
He says it's 9 o 'clock in the middle of that episode.
So it's two hours earlier than when he said it was.
jordan holmes
But he was drunk enough not to know what time it was.
dan friesen
But 11 o 'clock, you know, that is kind of like, okay, you've been up all day and now it's 11 o 'clock.
Spoiler alert, we're recording this at 8.45.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So you want to timestamp this?
jordan holmes
And neither of our dogs have died today.
No.
dan friesen
I don't even have a dog.
I got a cat.
I'm a cat dude.
Come at me, Alex.
unidentified
Bring it.
dan friesen
My point is when I heard that, holy shit.
I got so excited.
Because this has been minutes of tangential nonsense unrelated to anything.
And then he says, the world is in danger.
Super long pause.
jordan holmes
Crazy long pause.
I looked at you because you were...
Well, one, because you had this weird rhythm thing where every second you were turning your head a little bit and shifting it right in perfect time.
dan friesen
That might be because of my hair.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And it was forever.
dan friesen
Yeah, it was super long.
jordan holmes
That pause was so long.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then he's like...
I shouldn't have gone to work.
jordan holmes
My dog died.
dan friesen
He doesn't even say what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
No, but we know exactly what he's talking about.
unidentified
Oh, 100%.
dan friesen
I bet there's a lot of people who listen to that and are like, oh, that's really sad.
Sorry to hear that, Alex.
You came to work when you shouldn't have.
They have no idea that he's talking about the time he was fucking wasted on air.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fucking wasted as shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
I don't care how sad you are about your dog.
That ways to learn clip.
There's no fucking way that's sadness.
unidentified
I mean, it's recognition of his own mortality?
jordan holmes
I don't know!
dan friesen
No, but back to what we were saying.
jordan holmes
There's four ways to learn, and one of them is when your dog dies.
dan friesen
If he'd said that, we might have way more context to his emotional state.
jordan holmes
We might have more common ground with him, too.
dan friesen
But also, the idea that we got sort of sidetracked off this, but if his dog died and it was grisly, like he's describing, and he's like, I gotta drink.
That totally makes sense.
I'd get it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I get it.
jordan holmes
And you shouldn't go into work.
We agree.
dan friesen
But if you're sad about your dog and then you start screaming obscenity because the gloves are off and then you get homophobic and you talk about wanting to sell your car and then misalign Muslims.
jordan holmes
I forgot the part where he talks about...
That's the part that really should have been in the news is him being like, I bought this car.
It was nothing more Americana.
dan friesen
What would have been great is if...
jordan holmes
You know how everybody loves $300,000 cars.
dan friesen
You know what would be great is if there was a link to that episode on Backpage or something like that?
You know, like someone trying to sell a car?
jordan holmes
Yeah!
unidentified
You need a car?
Listen to this episode of Alex Jones, because he's moving one.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones is trying to get rid of that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Rarely used.
dan friesen
What a coward, though.
Like, what a fucking coward.
Just own up to it.
jordan holmes
Hiding behind your dog.
Well, but imagine if he said on air that he was drunk on air.
dan friesen
I would respect him so much more.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but his listeners wouldn't.
dan friesen
Who's to say?
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
I mean, in for a penny, in for a pound.
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
He would win more support and be like, yeah, we go to work drunk too!
dan friesen
Well, there's that dumb crowd.
But then there's also the idea of he's so into this weird version of Christianity.
Demons and what have you.
If he was to try and use it as...
I could see him...
Because we're never going to let this go.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
It's so well documented.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
But if he were to twist it, he could defeat us by being like, I have a problem with alcohol.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And the Lord is helping me with it or something like that.
He could win over even more people.
jordan holmes
In the same way that if he said he has a problem with sex workers and the...
Temptations of the flesh.
dan friesen
All we know is it has to do with the flesh.
jordan holmes
Could be anything.
No, he uses the flesh.
That, in Bible speak, we know what that means.
dan friesen
Oh, of course.
jordan holmes
We know what Bible speak is.
dan friesen
That's how they refer to it in the Bible.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
They don't just say fucking.
dan friesen
I think you now realize why I needed to go over this.
Yeah.
When I was walking home from the train, I heard this.
jordan holmes
You had a little spring in your step?
dan friesen
I heard this and I was like, holy shit!
I literally yelled holy shit on the street.
I was like, you asshole.
jordan holmes
We got a scoop.
dan friesen
You fucking asshole, Alex.
All right, so this next clip, he does not go more into his dog.
But he does say something at the end of this clip that I really want to get into.
So here we go.
alex jones
The reason I get at all this is that...
jordan holmes
Yes, please tell us why.
alex jones
There's a very good chance we're going to destroy ourselves.
There's a very good chance we're going to have a nuclear winter and that six billion people are going to die.
jordan holmes
Good point.
alex jones
And I guess the meek in the South Pacific, if the war isn't too intense, might live.
They'll have radiation poisoning deformities, but they're going to survive.
So I guess the meek will inherit the earth.
And I guess like the Bible says, you know, two-thirds of the planet will be killed.
dan friesen
I don't think that's in the Bible.
jordan holmes
It's not.
alex jones
And I'm just a little guilty that I don't have a strong enough flesh.
To convince my family to leave.
dan friesen
I think...
jordan holmes
Is he telling his family to go to space?
dan friesen
No.
He's going to talk a little bit more about it in the next clip.
He's talking about fleeing.
He's talking about going south.
But what I want to take away from that, I think is more important, is that his family doesn't believe him.
jordan holmes
They do not believe him at all.
dan friesen
They think he's crazy.
jordan holmes
He is crazy.
But here's the thing.
dan friesen
He's like, there's a nuclear war coming.
We gotta get out of here.
Alex, stop.
jordan holmes
But that's the problem.
This time he is right.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I think he's on the right on this one.
He's cried wolf too many times.
He's cried apocalypse too many times.
dan friesen
My fears think he could be right in terms of the global situation.
But my more rational brain knows that we'll...
Most likely de-escalate that before it happens.
I still think that humanity has enough sense.
I've been surprised a lot.
jordan holmes
I would have said that a year ago.
Now, look.
The gloves are off.
dan friesen
It's Thunderdome.
jordan holmes
And the gloves being off means we're all gonna die.
We should put those gloves right back on.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I think more specifically what I'm saying is if I have to choose between trusting Alex or his family, I gotta go with his family.
jordan holmes
That's a tough nut to crack right there.
dan friesen
Well, his kids don't have a choice in the situation.
But then again, his spouse chose to be with him.
It's very tough.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but she just divorced him though, right?
dan friesen
I don't know.
His personal life is very tough to disentangle.
There's a lot of gossip.
There's a lot of stuff that, and I have no idea.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
It's not really that important to me.
What I mean is, a woman did choose to be with him.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And now I don't know if that means I can trust her.
jordan holmes
Or if that means anyone will ever love either of us.
dan friesen
Certainly not me.
jordan holmes
I mean, that gives us hope, right?
dan friesen
No.
Makes me sadder.
I gotta get crazier.
Maybe someone will love me if I'm crazy.
jordan holmes
Either that or move to Texas.
dan friesen
Hey boy, I tell you what, I got a free bedroom in my parents' house down there now.
So he's gonna talk a little bit more about, I believe, the heading south part of this in this next clip.
And then he tries to weave poetic.
I think he realizes...
I gotta pick it up a little bit.
It's been ten minutes.
I've been all over the map.
I've gotta try and get a point and get a little poetic.
I don't think it works.
alex jones
But here I am, just a normal guy who believes in humanity, a throwback, trying to stop nuclear war like Michael Savage.
Because we like going to restaurants, we know.
We like going out on boats in the water.
jordan holmes
That's why you would stop nuclear war.
alex jones
We like having friends.
We don't want to kill the Russians.
We don't want to kill the Chinese.
We don't want anything.
unidentified
We don't want anything.
jordan holmes
Where are we going?
alex jones
And then we look at those that are seeking power who never even had power.
They're like functionaries and a big blind beast.
A corporate, hungry, seeking creature directed by millions of souls that are unconscious.
Looking for salvation and believing if they dive down some rat hole into hell, they might find absolution and nirvana or Valhalla, and all they'll find is a twilight of the gods, which is the end of humanity.
unidentified
Magnarok.
So, Okay, so we go from there's a good chance nuclear winter's coming.
jordan holmes
We don't want that.
Me and Michael Savage.
Do you know why?
We like having friends.
dan friesen
And restaurants.
jordan holmes
I love that restaurants were number one.
dan friesen
And boats.
jordan holmes
We like going out to restaurants.
We like boats.
dan friesen
But remember, every single time I fucking talked about Michael Savage, I'm like, when he talks about going to get a meatball sub.
He's a great broadcaster.
Because he is.
And that's why it's the first thing that Alex comes up with.
Because if you listen to Michael Savage and you hear him talk about going to a restaurant, that's the only thing you'll think about.
Because he is an artist when it comes to just talking about a great sub.
jordan holmes
Did he talk about food on this one?
dan friesen
He didn't.
jordan holmes
He didn't?
dan friesen
It made me very sad.
jordan holmes
Ah, man.
dan friesen
But when he starts screaming about like a chicken parm, get out of the way.
jordan holmes
So he missed his true calling.
dan friesen
No, because he's Dr. Savage, but you know what his doctorate is in?
jordan holmes
Meatball subs?
dan friesen
Basically.
He's a doctor of nutritional medicine.
jordan holmes
Oh, I didn't realize that!
dan friesen
He's a dietetic...
jordan holmes
Oh, I thought he was like a PhD of wackadoo!
unidentified
Nope.
Nope.
jordan holmes
Nope?
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
Alright.
So...
dan friesen
So he basically does have a doctorate in meatball subs.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Good point.
So do I, based on my going to Subway.
jordan holmes
So we nailed that.
We nailed that.
Speaking clearly to the people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alright, then I tried...
dan friesen
But also, before you skip on to the next thing, he makes that false equivalence that everyone who's against us wants to kill the Russians and the Chinese and hates going out on boats and doesn't like friends.
Like, it's...
It's the either or that's so unfair.
It's so stupid.
jordan holmes
I think it makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
He did this earlier.
jordan holmes
Dichotomous thought makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
He did this earlier and I didn't bring it up and I regret it now.
But the idea that anyone who disagrees with him wants war is fucking stupid.
That whole thing.
We absolutely don't want war.
We just think that Trump is a menace.
jordan holmes
In the words of Killer Mike...
We don't want to fight the war no more.
We don't hate the poor no more.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
Those are great aspirations.
Yeah.
I'm sorry.
I derailed your thought.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
So then he goes the inferno on us.
He tries to get Dante.
He tries to get Dante in this.
And we look at those seeking power who never had it.
Functionaries looking for the corporate rat holes of hell into the twilight of the gods.
dan friesen
But did you also...
unidentified
Did he not...
jordan holmes
What was he trying to say there?
dan friesen
Well, he said it's a beast.
They're a part of a beast.
A corporate seeking thing.
I'm like, oh, you lost track of that.
jordan holmes
So, Art, do you think we're going to...
Do you think we're going Revelations?
Is that what he's trying to do right here?
Because if he's bringing up the beast, that kind of has that Bible...
That Bible feel to it.
dan friesen
The beast is the globalists.
It's the group of the globalists.
So all of these people are willing their souls into the larger beast that is globalism.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Like the X-Men.
dan friesen
Whereas again, I have to make a delineation that globalism as the trend towards there being a global community and interconnectedness of economies, that sort of thing, is a real thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Globalism, in terms of Alex Jones' definition, is not a real thing.
But his fake version is the Beast.
jordan holmes
The Beast.
dan friesen
That he's referring to, yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So not the one from Sandlot.
dan friesen
Also not Hank McCoy.
jordan holmes
Not Hank McCoy.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
The car from that one movie where the car was called the Beast?
dan friesen
No, that was Christine.
unidentified
Ah, shit.
jordan holmes
What else do we got?
What other Beast?
No, it's just...
dan friesen
Well, the Beast from the East.
jordan holmes
So it's everybody selling themselves to the globalists.
dan friesen
Who's the Beast from the East?
jordan holmes
I have no idea.
I've never heard that before.
I swear to God you made that up just now.
dan friesen
I think it might just be a WWE pay-per-view I watched one time.
They did a pay-per-view in Japan.
jordan holmes
You just rhymed two words.
dan friesen
Nope, that's literally what it was.
It was a WWE pay-per-view.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
I don't even like wrestling that much.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure.
You've gone into several wrestling references already.
dan friesen
Well, to be fair, it's a very good storytelling medium.
And it turns out there's a lot of...
And Dusty Rhodes is the shit.
jordan holmes
There you go.
dan friesen
There you go.
jordan holmes
See, there you are.
Yeah.
Your defense of, I don't even really like wrestling that much, is, you know, it is a great method of storytelling, and I love Dusty Rhodes, and I remember this obscure pay-per-view.
dan friesen
It happened like a year ago.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Well, then never mind.
Point retracted.
Anyway.
dan friesen
I stand by my argument that I don't like wrestling that much.
jordan holmes
I'm fine with that.
dan friesen
And you can't contest it.
jordan holmes
I'm fine with that.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
But, what is he saying?
What is he trying to say?
unidentified
Hmm.
jordan holmes
I mean, what was the goddamn point of that whole, we look at those seeking power who never had it.
dan friesen
These Lindsey Grahams, the John McCains.
jordan holmes
Right.
So is his point that they are trying to facilitate the end of the world?
dan friesen
Basically, this nuclear war that's going to happen.
jordan holmes
So they're searching for it.
They're trying to start it.
dan friesen
Of course.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
His position is that the globalists want World War III.
I might be giving a little bit too much credit, but I think this is where it comes from.
So after World War II, we had the EU.
Well, EU was later, but the UN came about.
And the League of Nations before World War I. And then the Legion of Doom came to follow after that.
But these ideas of these global interfaces, these bodies of...
A bunch of governments and a bunch of representatives of governments coming together to make decisions together for the better men of the world so we don't end up with another holocaust.
Or we don't end up with another war to end wars, as it were.
jordan holmes
Yeah, a noble goal.
dan friesen
Yeah, those sorts of things.
Alex sees it as, okay, what happened was these evil globalists started World War I. So everyone would die and be horrified, and then they'd start the League of Nations to take sovereignty away from individual countries and consolidate it as a whole in the world, and then they can enslave the entire world.
Now, that didn't work out that time, so they had to start World War II.
jordan holmes
They had a sequel.
dan friesen
And the Jewish mafia propped up Hitler in order to do these holocausts and these atrocious crimes.
The Holocaust Centers, as Sean Spicer famously said.
What a fucking dumb dumb.
Especially on Passover, around Passover.
jordan holmes
It doesn't matter.
He's a fucking moron.
dan friesen
It's particularly bad, though.
jordan holmes
It's particularly bad, and I hope he gets hit by a truck.
But fucking focus, we need to get rid of Trump.
Who gives a fuck about the dumb fucking Sean Spicer?
dan friesen
I agree.
jordan holmes
I'm so angry!
dan friesen
I agree.
jordan holmes
I'm so angry that people are talking about him.
Get rid of fucking Trump, he'll go too!
dan friesen
It merits conversation.
jordan holmes
It doesn't!
Get rid of Trump!
dan friesen
Get rid of Trump!
jordan holmes
Focus!
Internet!
I am imploring you.
I don't give a fuck about United.
I don't give a fuck about anything.
Get rid of Trump, and then we can deal with it.
dan friesen
United's pretty crazy, though.
jordan holmes
It's horrifying.
It's monstrous.
But cops killed 300 black people yesterday.
unidentified
It's true.
jordan holmes
Get rid of fucking Trump now!
dan friesen
I agree.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
I'm back.
I think the talking about Spicer stuff is important to taking away Trump, though, because what he's doing is what is known as sort of ambivalent Holocaust denial.
There's this trend that people have of conveniently accidentally forgetting pieces of the Holocaust publicly or that sort of thing.
It's either intentionally dog-whistly to these white supremacist groups.
jordan holmes
Or, even worse, it's just part of who he is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
In that he's not trying to exploit anybody.
He's just that awful of a human being.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And, as we've discussed, Sebastian Gorka is a literal Nazi.
jordan holmes
Literal Nazi.
dan friesen
Do you know the Holocaust Statement?
That Trump put out.
jordan holmes
Yes, I remember that one.
dan friesen
Specifically didn't mention the Jews.
jordan holmes
Did not mention Jews.
dan friesen
There's just a trend of anti-Semitism that goes...
jordan holmes
Holocaust centers.
dan friesen
Yeah.
That's why it's important, I think, is because it does go back to Trump.
It's a bunch of people that he surrounds himself with either have no awareness of the reality or deny the reality.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Or are literal Nazis.
jordan holmes
But you cut the snake off at its head and then everything else goes crumbling down.
dan friesen
Yeah, but sometimes, you know, like, if you're fighting a boss in a video game, sometimes you have to take out his arm before you can shoot at his head.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
No, I understand your point there.
Metaphorically speaking.
Yeah, please make sure that you put metaphorically speaking.
dan friesen
Well, but, you know, sometimes there's different boss forms, and you've got to get through the first one in order to beat the game.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you might have to...
jordan holmes
Like a Final Fantasy, you're going to have at least three different boss forms to fight at the end of the game.
dan friesen
Sure, or Ganon, who I just beat recently.
jordan holmes
Yes, did you just beat him?
dan friesen
Good for you.
I did, thank you.
I freed Hyrule.
jordan holmes
Then the world can end and we'll all be fine.
dan friesen
Amen.
I mean, we were texting and I said that was my specific goal.
I've got to beat Zelda before the world ends.
jordan holmes
You did.
unidentified
And I did.
jordan holmes
You nailed it.
So we're good to go, everybody.
dan friesen
We ended that last clip with him talking about the twilight of the gods.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
It will be the end of humanity.
jordan holmes
Yes, which is strange for a professed Christian to believe in the twilight of the multiple gods.
dan friesen
Especially, that's like Viking language.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, you nailed it with Ragnarok.
dan friesen
Well, I googled twilight of the gods because I'm like...
That's got to be like a book or something like that.
And all of the citations.
jordan holmes
It's just Neil Gaiman everywhere.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it all just went back to like Norse shit.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Twilight of the Gods is code for Ragnarok.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, it's Ragnarok.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he was talking about that.
jordan holmes
The giant boat of fingernails, which makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
This is the last clip.
Of this weird ride we've been on.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And it starts up, I didn't, again, I have to say this because it seems so unbelievable that I didn't cut anything, but I didn't cut anything.
And to illustrate that, I have the last words of that last clip at the beginning of this.
Enjoy where it goes.
alex jones
And all they'll find is a twilight of the gods, which is the end of humanity.
I'm gonna go to your phone calls.
I'm gonna make this very brief.
If you want to see us grow in the face of enemy attacks, there we are.
jordan holmes
Don't do it.
alex jones
On the stage, in the arena, under attack.
Water filtration system's 40% off.
jordan holmes
Don't do it!
Don't you do it, Alex Jones!
dan friesen
Water filtration system's 40% off.
jordan holmes
Don't you do it!
Don't you Twilight of the Gods me and then sell me on water filtration.
dan friesen
Now, hold on.
I know that this is, like, we usually just play, like, oh, he's going into a sales pitch.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Who cares?
And then it ends.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I want you to shut up for a second and listen to how uninterested he is in his own sales pitch.
So listen to the rest of this.
It's so fucking sad.
alex jones
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We'll move forward.
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But I want to apologize to Dominique for holding so long.
dan friesen
That's a nice reminder there at the end that he's had a collar.
jordan holmes
Wait, there's been a collar holding the whole time?
No, no, no, no, no.
So for that 13-minute clip, he has had a collar holding the whole time.
unidentified
Multiple.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
I love this world we live in.
dan friesen
He could have done anything with his time, but he chose to do that.
jordan holmes
That's fucking insane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Man.
jordan holmes
What the fuck was that?
dan friesen
That was manna from the gods.
That was me saying, I don't know if we can do a good episode today.
And then God smiling down upon me and saying, oh yeah?
Here you go.
Dan, make hay.
That was 100% like, I don't want to get biblical here or anything like that.
But that was a moment when I doubted myself.
When I was at work today, I was like, I'm listening to the episode.
I don't know.
I don't know if we can do it.
I mean, this savage stuff is kind of interesting.
I really don't want to talk about Alex's take on the war.
What are we going to do?
Then that clip happened, and I was like, thank you.
Big ups.
Big ups, God.
Big ups.
jordan holmes
Somehow this is turning you back into a believer.
dan friesen
Not really.
jordan holmes
That's what's happening.
dan friesen
I believe in the great magnet.
jordan holmes
The great magnet?
dan friesen
The law of coincidence that, who cares?
unidentified
Listen.
dan friesen
But that's pretty cool, though.
We got a pretty fantastic group of bullshit here.
jordan holmes
I want to try and...
Because I've written down as much of this as I could.
dan friesen
Right.
Ooh, this is going to be really fun.
What?
Synthesize this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's what I'm working on.
dan friesen
When I was putting this together and when I was cutting the clips up, like I said, all I did was segment.
I did not cut out anything.
What I was hoping is like...
What we're going to end up having to do, and I think we have along the way, is we've got to get into critical analysis.
This is like reading a text in a different language.
You have to try and figure out what in the fuck is going on here.
jordan holmes
And how important is authorial intent is a really good question here.
Is it as important that he intended to say something?
Or just interpreting his words on their own?
dan friesen
The author really in control of his hand.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, is there a demon in his hand?
jordan holmes
Is this a Virginia Woolf stream of consciousness kind of situation?
What's going on here?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alrighty.
So we start.
Fade in.
Exterior.
Exterior.
dan friesen
Infowars studio.
Establishing shock.
Pan in through door.
jordan holmes
In the background on Skype, a picture lays unhung.
dan friesen
See confused Rob Dew.
No, no.
How dare you?
unidentified
John Rappaport does not record at 24 Studios.
jordan holmes
No, I meant on Skype.
Oh, sorry.
This is a Tuesday episode.
dan friesen
Rappaport's on Thursdays.
Get it right.
Don't get it twisted.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
Don't flex on Batman like that.
jordan holmes
I don't want to take Alex Jones out of context.
dan friesen
Don't fucking pretend you don't know what day Rappaport shows up.
jordan holmes
Alrighty.
I actually don't.
That's the whole point of this show.
The whole point of this show is that I don't know these things.
dan friesen
John Rappaport works one day a week for an hour.
jordan holmes
How else is he going to afford those dentures?
Alright, alright.
Alex Jones believes that Saudi Arabia has at least 300 princes.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
That's like the third thing he talked about.
jordan holmes
Alright, well that's whenever I first started taking notes.
Because the first two were him being just...
Silly.
dan friesen
Well, the first one is really what appeared to be the thesis, which is about everyone thinks he's anti-Semitic and he's not.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that has nothing to do with anything.
dan friesen
But it comes back.
But that's how he started.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So it seemed like that is what you want to talk about because that's how you open.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it wasn't.
Now, the second one, again, we can get rid of because it's just him talking about his dog not wanting to drown him.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He doesn't want to get drowned by Nonc.
dan friesen
No, but then you're even cutting out the other thing that came before that, which is Fox News and the media is all on World War III's dick.
jordan holmes
That's mainly because I agree with him.
dan friesen
But then Syria is innocent.
jordan holmes
Well, in his mind...
He is not advocating for World War III.
He's telling you to prepare for World War III.
Whereas Fox News and the other channels, and I do not disagree with him, are balls deep in let's go to war.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
We're not on the mainstream media's side in any way.
jordan holmes
No, they can go fuck themselves.
dan friesen
We have some harsh critiques.
jordan holmes
As I tried to say to each and every one of them individually.
dan friesen
Before you got banned.
jordan holmes
Before I got banned from Twitter, go fuck yourselves.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But all that happened before you even brought in your beginning of your critical analysis.
jordan holmes
Right, but what am I going to say to that?
Critically, the only thing that matters into...
dan friesen
I'm not anti-Semitic.
Syria is innocent.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Those are two interesting ideas.
jordan holmes
Not to the larger case that I'm going to pull.
dan friesen
I apologize.
I am now just...
I am a student at your lectern.
jordan holmes
Well, the only thing that I do think, now that you reminded me of it, that matters, is nonk.
Now, I will tell you this.
I will get to nonk.
dan friesen
I could not have been more surprised when you, starting your critical analysis, literally grabbed a pen and wrote nonk at the top of your page.
Like, that is...
jordan holmes
That is the key.
To me, that is the key.
Alright?
That is the central metaphor that we're going for.
unidentified
I silently just pumped my fist in the air.
dan friesen
I'm so excited.
jordan holmes
Because his point to, or not point, his rambling nonsense to you can't save somebody who is drowning.
Whereas this dog cannot help but save somebody even when they are not drowning.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
Now.
dan friesen
Wait, wait.
Is that metaphor going to be fleshed out throughout the course of your analysis?
jordan holmes
I think that metaphor is who Alex Jones is.
Alex Jones is the dog who is trying to save you from drowning, even though you are just hanging out.
dan friesen
I would posit that I'd go a step further, that he is exactly that, but he is also...
That dog managing to drown you when you aren't in the pool.
jordan holmes
There we go.
dan friesen
Like, if you engage with that dog, it's still going to drown you.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
What the fuck?
I'm just at the cabana.
jordan holmes
What's going on here?
The dog is the dog who drowns you with the best of intentions.
dan friesen
How do I drown on a patio?
What the fuck is going on here?
All right, sorry, go ahead.
jordan holmes
All right, all right, all right.
Saudi princes have a nigh unlimited amount of money.
dan friesen
So much.
jordan holmes
Some of them are paid billions a year, which suggests that their total worth is more than the entire GDP of the United States.
dan friesen
Which is also fascinating because I think he thinks that being a prince is a job and is a salary.
jordan holmes
As opposed to something that you are related to the king by.
dan friesen
Ancestral.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
If he's saying that there are hundreds of princes, I believe he believes that Assad...
Has hundreds of children.
dan friesen
Well, he's not talking about Syria.
That's Saudi Arabia.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
Saudi Arabia.
unidentified
There are a number of princes, but I don't think it's that many.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I misspoke.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
So, we go from Saudi Arabia not taking refugees to Israel.
dan friesen
Which, again, that was a lie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, a huge lie.
To Israel, but I'm trying to engage with him on his writings.
Fair enough.
dan friesen
I shall stop fact-checking.
jordan holmes
All right.
We go directly from there to Israel is a good guy.
up to Palestinian attack from not Palestine from Syrians right he doesn't have a positive or negative view of Israel immediately following that quote when he says he has a positive view of Israel but his his actions imply a negative and he is not on the fence so Jewish newspapers are attacking him for his pro-Jewish refugee stance right then pseudo-Electrianism
Pseudo-intellectuals, he's always trying to do the right thing, even though he cannot think about it.
Even though his conscience, as he tries to, you know, follow its directives, he finds himself tempted by the flesh.
dan friesen
Right.
I must fuck.
jordan holmes
Immediately after that, hundreds of newspapers.
dan friesen
Hundreds.
jordan holmes
My suggestion there.
dan friesen
Well, I think he said a hundred a day.
I think he said like a hundred a day.
jordan holmes
My suggestion there.
He is guilty.
And he believes that people are gossiping about him.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
Not criticizing his thoughts or actions, but they are getting into the salacious details.
dan friesen
What you're talking about is projection.
jordan holmes
Yes.
I think he is not talking about newspapers.
I think he's talking about people he knows talking shit.
dan friesen
Or maybe blogs.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right?
dan friesen
Or a lot of the conspiracy blogs and message boards that I go to that talk shit on him a lot.
But again, like I mentioned earlier, the things that they say, their critiques are that like, why won't he go after Israel?
Which kind of does match up with the tone that he's saying here.
I don't think any right-thinking person thinks that.
I think crazy conspiracy blogs say that.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Which, once again, he kind of wants their approval.
In the same way that he wants...
Everybody's approval.
dan friesen
Sure.
Like Trump wants the New York Times approval.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Then we go directly to the schizophrenics.
Immediately following him being attacked, we go to him remembering how he deals with that, which is by giving his people money.
dan friesen
Some of them.
jordan holmes
Some of them.
dan friesen
But I really think that that wasn't the point of the schizophrenic part.
jordan holmes
I don't think it wasn't the point.
I'm getting rid of authorial intent.
dan friesen
No, because even based on his words, when he goes and he sees the schizophrenics, it's not about giving them money.
That's not the point that he's making.
It's like, I go there and I realize everyone is like them.
He goes and he just sees a, like...
jordan holmes
To me, what he was talking about there, because it scans from him being sad that everybody is attacking him, to him immediately giving money away.
Now, there is a midpoint there that I don't think matters.
Because I think what matters is he makes himself feel better.
By doing what he thinks is the Christian thing and giving homeless people money.
So then we go directly to the species is destroyed through war.
Right?
That goes from the schizophrenics to the species being destroyed by war.
So we get from his hero worship of money.
Jewish newspapers attacking him.
Trying to do the right thing, but sleeping with hookers.
100 plus newspapers.
unidentified
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Meh.
100 plus newspapers are attacking him at all the time.
He is then talking about schizophrenics.
dan friesen
Also people knock over his drink when he's out with his family.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Don't forget about that.
jordan holmes
Always under attack.
dan friesen
He's at the beach.
jordan holmes
Always under attack.
Slips into his mind, schizophrenics.
Then we go directly to the ultimate schizophrenic fear, is that he's the only person who can save the species from destroying itself.
dan friesen
Well, him and Savage.
jordan holmes
Right.
Now, then we get to the stranger part, which is how much he loves this beautiful planet.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
And Mama will never love him again.
That's when we get into that one.
So he goes through this emotional just, Just every possible spectrum of emotion.
dan friesen
Mostly fear, it seems.
jordan holmes
Well, fear and abandonment and paranoia.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Then...
dan friesen
And maybe some of that came from Mom throwing him off the knee.
jordan holmes
Yeah, oh, of course it did.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
But then it gets oddly...
dan friesen
How fucked up is it that we keep coming back to really empathic moments for him?
Where we're like, fuck, man.
You're an alcoholic.
Get help.
We feel bad for you.
Alex, your mom didn't love you enough.
That sucks, man.
I feel bad for you.
jordan holmes
Because he's a tragedy.
dan friesen
Certainly.
jordan holmes
I mean, he is, by any definition of the word, a tragedy.
No matter what angle you look at him from.
dan friesen
And that's coming from me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
That's coming from the people who find him to be the most monstrous.
dan friesen
People who have tried to be stand-ups for a while.
jordan holmes
Now.
Yeah, no kidding.
People with the most empathic view of life.
Now, then we get a taste of hope.
That's the thing that kind of threw me for a loop, because we go directly from Mama's Boy.
dan friesen
Wait, are you saying the hope was that him pretending he wasn't drunk?
jordan holmes
No, the hope was him telling us about the future that's coming.
unidentified
Oh, the stars.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
So, either that, either that is a hopeful moment, or he really wants to escape his mother.
dan friesen
I actually think that where you see hope, I see the reverse.
I don't think that that's a hopeful moment.
I think that he's saying that because he knows it's this science fiction fantasy of us getting off the planet, especially within the next 50, 100 years.
And I think it's actually more of a doom and gloom thing.
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that is never going to happen.
And him positing it as the other alternative.
Means that we're doomed.
jordan holmes
I believe Alex Jones believes we will get off this planet.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, he believes that Trump is going to cure every disease.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, but in that regard, I believe he does.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Then Lindsey Graham, John McCain, getting us away from chivalry and honor.
Of course.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
You know who was into chivalry?
Don Quixote.
jordan holmes
Maybe a schizophrenic.
Very good chance of nuclear winter.
So we come back down.
We hit that bottom right there.
dan friesen
Oh, that is down.
jordan holmes
That is way down.
His family doesn't believe him anymore.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
So, do you feel like...
And this is my ultimate kind of synthesis of all of this information right here.
He believes...
That he is trying to save his family.
And they are rejecting him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm back at NONC.
unidentified
The look you just gave me was so...
jordan holmes
I told you!
I told you I was gonna get back to NONC!
You thought I wasn't gonna make it back there, and I fucking did, and I got to look.
dan friesen
Also, was NONC the dog that died the night that he was drunk on air?
jordan holmes
It can't have been NONC, but it...
Could have been Nock.
dan friesen
No, because Nock got hit by a car.
unidentified
Yeah, Nock was the one who got hit by a car.
jordan holmes
Although, but the dog who did die absolutely had to have reminded him of Nock.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Your thesis is interesting.
I don't think it counts for everything.
jordan holmes
I don't think it accounts for everything either.
I do think, though, that that is the underlying psychoanalytical critical theory of what we're going for here.
dan friesen
I mean, I think if you want to look at his career, it's got to go back to that shit with his mom.
unidentified
If you want to really overly...
dan friesen
Like, get back to the root of it.
Yeah.
Where does abandonment come from?
Primary relationships when you're a child.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Being severed and being vulnerable and threatened by, like, oh, this caretaker doesn't love me anymore, which is exactly what he described.
So, of course, like, this idea of abandonment leads to paranoia.
Right.
Yeah, absolutely.
Now, maybe it's being triggered by the idea, like, I want to run away to the Cayman Islands!
Let's get away from here!
And his family's like...
Calm down.
So maybe it's being triggered by that.
jordan holmes
I think so.
And it's not just this particular instance.
And it's not just his immediate family.
dan friesen
I'm sure it's been a 20-year fight.
jordan holmes
Right.
But I think it is the Trump thing.
And this...
dan friesen
So he's also abandoned by Trump in the same way he's feeling abandoned by his family.
jordan holmes
And he abandoned his family because they did not support Trump.
dan friesen
Well, we don't know that.
jordan holmes
Well, but at the very least they're starting to...
To change their minds, a lot like Michael Savage in The Lycar.
dan friesen
And Steve Pachanek.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
In that last, like, four episodes back.
jordan holmes
So, everyone is leaving him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Everyone is leaving him.
That...
dan friesen
You know what's fascinating?
You know what's fascinating?
jordan holmes
He is mad because he feels like he's trying to save them and they're pushing him away.
dan friesen
Much like a dog.
jordan holmes
Much like a dog.
dan friesen
You know what's fascinating, though?
Like, for the last 20 years or so that he's been on the air, as he's been ignored by everybody...
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
over time they've all gravitated towards his energy.
They've come in and what fucked him over is fucking, Finally latching onto a politician.
jordan holmes
He finally jumped on somebody else's train.
dan friesen
He hitches up with Trump, and because of that, well, maybe not because of that, but because of the mental gymnastics that he has to do, he ends up alienating Steve Pachenik, who is his...
jordan holmes
His main man.
dan friesen
His source for a lot of his narratives.
Roger Stone's probably going to prison.
jordan holmes
We can only hope.
dan friesen
The two of them still seem thick as thieves.
Also, by the way, I want to tell you about this.
Yeah.
Before I tell you about this, I'm fascinated by your narrative.
I think it's possibly accurate.
If not...
jordan holmes
It's at least very entertaining.
dan friesen
It's a great...
It would be a great play.
jordan holmes
It would be a great play.
dan friesen
I would love to see that on stage.
I would love to see the first act being this guy full of vim and vigor, and he has a family, and he learns about the globalists.
jordan holmes
He's truly a tragedy.
That's why he's so fascinating to us, is because we are watching a Greek tragedy unfold in front of us.
dan friesen
Are we the chorus?
jordan holmes
Well, I think we're the assholes.
dan friesen
What are we in this?
Are we the Furies?
jordan holmes
No, we're the two Muppets.
dan friesen
We're Statler and Waldorf?
jordan holmes
That's us, yeah.
dan friesen
This isn't reality, this is bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So the other day, Roger Stone was on, and he said that he has a guy who's about to die, who's a source, that wants to spill the beans on John McCain.
And he's going to give Infowars the scoop.
He's going to give them the exclusive.
jordan holmes
That's...
Insane.
dan friesen
This hasn't materialized yet, so we don't know what...
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
This was on Monday's show.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And so Alex freaked out.
And he's like, I'll fly.
I'll go now.
I'll fly now.
What?
Should I get off air?
What's going on?
Should I do this?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And he's like, oh, Rob Dew's here.
Should I send Rob Dew?
And here's how I know it's bullshit.
Roger Stone's immediate reaction was, I think Rob Dew's the best man for the job.
I was like...
jordan holmes
A sentence no human being has ever uttered in their entire existence.
unidentified
I was like, this is not a story.
dan friesen
If Rob Dew is the best man for the job, that guy can't fucking...
jordan holmes
The other option would have been, somebody needs to take out the trash.
I think Rob Dew is the best man for the job.
dan friesen
When you said the other option, I thought you meant as a host, and I was like, a sock puppet?
I don't know.
I don't know.
Syphil and Ollie?
Get him in there.
jordan holmes
I don't give a shit.
dan friesen
The idea that you have a big story to break, I'm like, fucking get Rob Dew on a plane.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Get the most easily suggestible poor man on the plane.
dan friesen
And someone who has no fucking charisma at all.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Like, if you have, like, let's pretend.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
For a fucking hot second.
jordan holmes
That I am a raging mass of raw charisma.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
This is a real story.
And there's a deathbed confession about John McCain that can be verified.
And, as Alex has said, is going to destroy his career.
And his reputation.
Like, let's pretend that's true, alright?
jordan holmes
Let's pretend that, okay, I'm gonna have to put a lot of thinking caps on to get through that.
unidentified
Now, I'm looking at the pantheon.
dan friesen
Of InfoWars reporters.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I would say the last person I'd put on it is Alex's son Rex.
Because he's a child.
And he can't handle this.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But he's still in the roster.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's also selling a weird thing that you can put your cell phone in to get radiation away from you.
Which is great.
Glad to see him being entrepreneurial.
jordan holmes
That is great.
dan friesen
But...
He's the last...
unidentified
Wait, what?
dan friesen
I don't know.
He's the last...
That's a real product he's pitching.
jordan holmes
I refuse to believe you.
unidentified
It's insane.
dan friesen
It's Block It Pocket is the name of it.
jordan holmes
All right, no, we're done.
Andy in Kansas.
dan friesen
No, hold on.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
After this 13-year-old, the last person I would send is Rob Duke.
He's incompetent.
Yes.
If that's a real story, that's a career maker.
That's a big scoop.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You want to fucking send that to somebody who can actually handle it.
jordan holmes
One journalist took down John McCain.
dan friesen
Right.
And you've got to give that to someone who you think might have a career in this, might have potential.
jordan holmes
And who can accurately research, follow up, write clearly.
Well, none of them can do that.
No, of course not.
dan friesen
Well, maybe Ashley Beckford.
jordan holmes
Like I said, I've never heard her name before, so I assume she's competent.
dan friesen
Listen, she seems to have a much better head on her shoulder.
She's still a propagandist, but she has...
It's very difficult to quantify, but she doesn't seem like as much of a dick as a lot of people.
In the same way, I think Leanne McAdoo doesn't seem like as much of a dick.
Maybe it's just because the two of them are women.
It's possible.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But I would say, I would send Owen Schroyer.
I hate that guy.
But I would send him.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Because he kind of has it.
jordan holmes
He kind of has it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's got the wow factor.
dan friesen
In terms of someone who could have a career.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Way more than fucking Rob Do.
Again, I would send Leanne McAdoo probably.
jordan holmes
You sell Rob Do short.
dan friesen
You know what?
I got so fucking in my head that I'm like, I just like the women who work there.
Is it just because I like women?
jordan holmes
Maybe you're a fucking perv.
dan friesen
No, it's not even that I'm fucking super attracted to Leanne McAdoo.
Not so much Ashley Beckford.
jordan holmes
Why are we pro-women on InfoWars?
For obvious reasons.
The people on InfoWars...
No, I mean, InfoWars is such a culture of toxic masculinity that for you and I, we recognize that immediately as being the most damaging possible thing you can be.
So of course we're going to prefer the women on fucking InfoWars.
dan friesen
Well, they deserve better.
jordan holmes
All women deserve better.
dan friesen
I'm scrambling in my head.
I feel very self-conscious about it.
But the reason that I say this about Ashley Beckford, that I think that she's better than the rest of them, is that I've watched the field pieces that she does.
And the way that she interacts with people is still InfoWars.
But you can tell that her brain is a little more engaged.
She seems to have better improv chops and is dealing with the situation as it exists more than other people.
I know that's kind of abstract and a little bit vague, but you can tell.
If you watch her and then you watch Millie Weaver...
jordan holmes
Never heard her name before either.
dan friesen
She's Rainbow Snatch.
jordan holmes
Oh!
Oh, Rainbow Snatch.
dan friesen
She plays Rainbow Snatch.
jordan holmes
Somehow somebody with an improv background is worse at improv than...
dan friesen
She doesn't have an improv background.
jordan holmes
Well, she's been improv-ing on the show for at least twice.
dan friesen
That's not a background.
jordan holmes
That's a background.
dan friesen
That's a foreground.
jordan holmes
That's a foreground.
dan friesen
Anyway, we've been going too long about these hypothetical deconstructions.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I have no idea what it is we've been doing here.
dan friesen
My point is, if there's an expose about John McCain, don't fucking send Rob Duke.
He can't cut it.
jordan holmes
That's good advice for all of us.
dan friesen
He stinks.
Also...
Don't send David Knight.
He's boring as fuck.
Don't send...
I mean, Anthony Cumia, of course.
Send Rappaport!
jordan holmes
Send Rappaport!
I was just about to say, do you know where Rappaport would do that?
dan friesen
Where the fuck was my brain?
jordan holmes
Do you know where Rappaport would do this report from?
dan friesen
Right in front of that goddamn picture.
jordan holmes
The fucking bushes.
Where he has been hiding on university campuses this whole time.
dan friesen
I would give any...
jordan holmes
Nobody can break a story like Batman.
dan friesen
I would give any amount of money.
To see him interview this guy on his deathbed in a bush with an unhung picture just sitting there on the ground.
jordan holmes
I would give anything to see him go anywhere on a field piece and then, like a game of Where's Waldo, we just see in the background that unhung picture.
Like, wait, why the fuck is he there?
dan friesen
That would be gorgeous.
jordan holmes
That would be amazing.
dan friesen
At this point, I also realized I've never seen John Rappaport stand up.
He might be in a wheelchair.
I literally have no idea.
jordan holmes
Doesn't matter.
dan friesen
Doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
His teeth are in a wheelchair.
dan friesen
Yeah, damn right.
Anyway, this has been such a rambling outro, but like...
jordan holmes
I don't know how else to counteract...
unidentified
This episode deserves it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
What is it he's talking about that doesn't send us down a rabbit hole of what the hell is it we're talking about?
dan friesen
Because we have to try and make sense of what the fuck that was.
jordan holmes
I think I'm close to it.
I think it's...
dan friesen
You're not far off.
jordan holmes
I think it's the abandonment.
dan friesen
We're in the ballpark.
jordan holmes
I think he's not.
dan friesen
We're in the ballpark.
And he's sad that he didn't get hit by a car.
jordan holmes
Watch what I'm writing down right now.
dan friesen
Alright.
unidentified
It is Alex Jones equals nonk.
dan friesen
Alright.
unidentified
Done.
dan friesen
Alright.
Well, it's on paper.
jordan holmes
Figured out the whole show.
dan friesen
Well, guys, you can follow us on Twitter.
You can follow us at knowledge underscore fight.
jordan holmes
You can check us up on iTunes.
Subscribe.
Leave a review.
We love reviews.
unidentified
We like it.
jordan holmes
I don't know if you've ever heard that at the end of a podcast before.
dan friesen
Also, we have a website.
It's knowledgefight.com.
You can go there.
You can find all our archives of episodes.
You can find an autobiography of Alex Jones in progress.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Also, some documentation of his lies.
jordan holmes
Oh, and do you know what's going on in that autobiography?
His mama kicked him off his knee.
dan friesen
That is going to be written up in the near future.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
That one is not out yet.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Although I do have a new one out about him being a boy genius.
jordan holmes
That's right.
He is a boy genius.
dan friesen
I also have a new lie documentation coming out.
I think it might be out by the time this episode comes out about Hillary selling the uranium to the Russians.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I have thoroughly researched that, and you can check that out.
Spoiler alert, she didn't.
jordan holmes
It's going in the live files.
dan friesen
Oh, you can email us at knowledgefight at gmail dot com.
jordan holmes
That's right!
dan friesen
And if you do email us and you want a signed wine bottle, send us your address.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you do need to do that, otherwise we can't really send it to you.
dan friesen
How the fuck am I going to send an address?
jordan holmes
Just give us your name, we'll throw the wine bottle out the window into some sort of body of water and hope it makes it to you.
dan friesen
Also, I'm specifically talking to you, Drew.
Thank you for your interest in a shirt.
Once more people are interested in shirts, we might get some made.
But because there's one person who has emailed me about a shirt, I can't make one.
jordan holmes
It is hard to make a shirt.
dan friesen
We are exposing our lack of engagement.
jordan holmes
Oh no, come on.
dan friesen
No, a lot of people hit us up on Twitter.
jordan holmes
People just don't wear shirts anymore.
It's the age of the internet.
What are you doing going outside?
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
Get a digital shirt.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Just saw a ghost in the show.
unidentified
Great.
dan friesen
Jordan.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
This has been a lot of fun.
jordan holmes
This has been a lot of fun.
dan friesen
Yeah, until next time.
You know what we've been?
jordan holmes
We have been a...
dan friesen
A couple of policy nonks.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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