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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
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Thanks for holding.
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Hello, Alex.
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I'm a first-time caller.
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I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
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I love you.
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
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I'm Dan.
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I'm Jordan.
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We are back for yet another episode where we sit down and drink a little bit of wine.
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And discuss what's going on in the wacky, wacky world of Alex Jones.
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Is there a twist to that?
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There is.
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There's a Chubby Checker featuring the Fat Boys level twist.
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Alright, we're done.
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It's over.
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I've already used Chubby Checker once as a reference, but I realized he did the twist with the Fat Boys later.
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It's too late for us.
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Alright.
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The twist is that I watched tons of Infowars, and Alex Jones in particular.
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And I do not watch any.
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Not at all.
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Not an iota, except I did just trick you into watching.
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You tried.
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You tried to get me to watch some, and then David Knight appeared like a fucking demon from beneath the boring sixth level of hell.
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Like the world's most boring hobo coming on TV.
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I did find out he's got quite a bit of gray in his beard.
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I didn't realize that.
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Oh, tons.
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Yeah.
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We're recording this on Sunday, and we wanted to check in because Alex had promoted online that he's about to drop a huge Pizzagate bombshell.
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And so we wanted to check in on what that was.
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That's how I tricked you into watching.
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So far at press time, no bombshell.
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We probably won't.
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Nope, not at all.
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I'm still standing by my former theory that I espoused on the last podcast that is he got threatened with a lawsuit.
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Yeah.
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I think we can stick with that one.
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I'm not sure that anything that he says today could shake my belief in that.
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No, he was definitely at least served some sort of papers.
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Maybe a subpoena to, you know, give shit.
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Don't destroy any of your evidence.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Something like that.
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He was shook.
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Yeah.
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But anyway.
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Almost as much as when he...
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Lost all of his money.
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He was way more shook.
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He was very shook.
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So today, what we're going to do is we're going to go over...
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You know, this is going to be a special expose episode.
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Oh boy.
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Generally, what we do is I take a day in the life of Alex Jones and I play the clips and we discuss where he's incredibly wrong about everything.
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Right.
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Today, what we're going to be doing is breaking down the entirety of last week.
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This is unprecedented.
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And a busted-ass narrative that Alex is promoting.
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And the results of my incredibly deep research into why Alex Jones, I feel like he has to know that he's just being a complete liar.
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He has to know.
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I have gotten about 30 texts from you over this past week about how intense your research is, and I just wonder.
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I've been reading court documents.
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Why?
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What is wrong with you?
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Judges' decisions.
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I want you to be okay.
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This is eventually just going to turn into me wishing well on you.
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No, but see, the thing is, I'm thrilled.
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I know!
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That's one of the problems!
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I had an amazingly great time reading up on all this stuff.
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Okay.
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I mean, some of the stuff that I found is legitimately horrifying.
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Right.
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Because there's individuals that we're going to discuss, and you're probably aware of maybe one or two of them.
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Jesus.
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Sure, he's going to come in the mix.
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Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
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As he keeps being referred to on Infowars, Franklin Delano Roosevelt.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Oh boy.
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I think it's an accident, but I'm not sure.
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It could be a play on his cousin?
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The one that he married?
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Cousin wife?
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Yeah.
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Possibly.
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But look, there's a guy, at least one, who's going to come up who, we all know who he is, we've heard of him before, but the amount of research that I did really highlighted how much worse of a person he is.
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Okay.
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So that was not fun.
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Reading some of the stories about him.
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Who?
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We're going to get to it.
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Why are you teasing that?
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Because, look, it's...
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Now all I can think about is who it might be.
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And my first thought is OJ for some reason, and I don't think that's right.
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No, we watched that documentary, we know how bad a guy he is.
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He's not a good man.
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I know I'm doing too much teasing, but we have to start out our episodes as we try to do each time with an out-of-context drop that has nothing to do with what we're going to be talking about from Alex.
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Gallup is back to fake polls.
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They have key demographics, key phone numbers they can call, or they can produce any numbers they want.
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Does anybody believe that Trump has fallen from 56 down to 37 in a national poll?
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No.
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Yep.
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Anyway.
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Does anybody believe it?
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A lot of people.
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Is that a hypothetical question?
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Maybe over 50% of the population believes that.
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Yeah.
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All right.
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So anyway, here we go.
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Let's get to it.
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Let's get down to business.
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All right.
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Because this is going to be intense.
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All right.
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Do you want to sing Let's Get Down to Business from the Mulan soundtrack?
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I'd rather do This Is How We Do It.
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It's Friday night.
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I would really rather you didn't do that.
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I feel all right.
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The party's up on the west side.
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You know what?
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Eventually, I will make a man out of you.
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Just because I love pink.
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Oh, also Carly Rae Jepsen.
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I don't know if we've been over that one.
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Pink, Lana Del Rey, Carly Rae Jepsen, and Dido.
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That's the, uh, so far.
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That's my Mount Rushmore at this point.
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That's a bad Mount Rushmore.
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Fuck you.
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Okay, okay, that's fine.
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So, as I said, throughout the week, he's pitching this entire narrative.
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Enya, are we on Enya?
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Are we good with her?
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Case-to-case basis.
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Song by song.
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I like the Orinoco flow.
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Or that song from Sweet November, Only Time?
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You already know more about Enya than any human being should.
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You can say where the road goes.
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Listen, we've got to get down to business.
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Yeah.
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So here is Alex on Monday's show sort of giving an introduction to the thesis of what we're going to be talking about today.
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Okay.
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You're listening to The Alex Jones Show.
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Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us on this Monday, March 20th, 2017.
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If you go to DrudgeReport.com, you can see the headline right in the middle column.
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It's been there since yesterday afternoon.
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NSA documents prove surveillance of Trump and his family.
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Targets of NSA's Project Dragnet, that's an admitted illegal project, and now we've gotten basically the indexes of it, or our sources have.
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It's Sheriff Joe Arpaio's cold case.
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Posse's had this for two years.
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He, of course, is now out of office as of last year.
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Voted out of office.
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And so that information has now been put out via Infowars.com.
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Because the feds, obviously under Obama, did nothing.
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Well, there's a new sheriff in town in D.C. Not Joe Arpaio.
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He's no longer in town.
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Trump talked last week about it.
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He's gone.
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Soon you'll see evidence of NSA spying.
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And this goes back, as far as Obama's concerned, eight years.
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Eight years.
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But isn't it interesting?
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How far does it go back where Obama's not concerned?
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The biggest news site in the world, hands down, second largest website in the world, period, after MSN.
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Top linked in the corner last night.
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Then it moved down this morning to the middle column, NSA documents, surveillance on Trump family more, Project Dragnet.
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Yeah.
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Was that a complete sentence?
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No, because when he's saying more, that's that click here for more.
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He's reading the link.
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And then Project Dragnet is a second link.
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Oh, okay.
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So he doesn't even know what he's reading on the page.
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No.
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It's insane.
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If we keep listening, he does it again.
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His rhythm of that is bananas.
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Trump surveilled more Project Dragnet.
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Like Christopher Walken is doing the show.
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Yeah, again, it is indicative of his lack of preparation.
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He doesn't know what he's actually about to talk about at all.
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It's infuriating.
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It drives me incredibly insane.
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This clip isn't done.
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There's more.
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Oh, good.
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But before we get to it, I will say what we have already is the introduction of this theme.
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It's that there is an NSA-CIA whistleblower who has come out who has a ton of documents that proves that Donald Trump is being surveilled.
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And as Alex steamrolls along with this, we will learn...
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That not only is Donald Trump being surveilled and has been for years back when he was just a businessman.
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Right.
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Not only that, Alex Jones, Michael Savage, other people's families.
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Just other people's families?
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Tons of folks.
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Just tons of folks?
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Yeah, being surveilled.
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Was his source Edward Noden?
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No.
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Oh, okay.
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Although Snowden does get cucked out a little bit in this episode.
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How do you cuck out Snowden?
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He's a badass.
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Because he's so minor compared to what this whistleblower is bringing out.
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All right, all right.
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And I assure you, we're going to dig into every single element of this.
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Oh, boy.
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And I will...
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This is going to get deep.
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If in the next two and a half to three hours, we don't end up with everyone who hears this realizing that this is nothing, I will commit Harry Carey.
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No, I won't.
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Nope, that's a promise.
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Yeah, that's a verbal contract.
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Yeah, exactly.
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Let's get back to the clip before I make worse offers.
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Donate to Dan's Patreon.
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I need to buy a sword!
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Otherwise, he won't be able to commit Harry Carey.
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Yeah, it's the only way to go about things honorably.
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You'd think MSM would at least come out and say it wasn't true, kind of like when we got the MIAC reports from the state police and then from federal marshals, another copy from a different division, because they were all different variants, depending on who they were sent to.
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And for a week, the media ignored it.
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Then they said it was fake.
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Then they said, okay, it's real.
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Well, of course it was real.
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I didn't just get it from my sources and believe it.
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I also called the phone numbers on there.
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And the FBI's like, oh, you're not supposed to have that.
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Where are you?
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And then I had little arguments about it.
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I said, it's already out.
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I already have it.
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It's ready to be published, and I'm publishing it right now.
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So there you go.
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NSA documents, surveillance on Trump family, more Project Dragnet.
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Project Dragnet!
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Again, that's him reading the links and not figuring out how a sentence works.
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Tom Hanks and Dan Aykroyd?
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Project Dragnet?
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Is that their theme song?
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I don't remember.
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I have no idea.
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Just the facts, ma 'am.
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Yes, there we go.
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Wasn't there to make the movie with The Rock and Steve Carell?
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Is that right?
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I don't know.
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They did not do that.
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I know they made a Dragnet movie.
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Yeah, with Tom Hanks and Dan Aykroyd.
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No, that was the old one.
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They made a new one with Steve Carell.
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What?
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I don't think The Rock was in it.
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I think I'm conflating things.
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I don't think you know what it was.
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This is so irrelevant to the point.
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What is?
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So, on Sunday of last week...
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InfoWars published what they believed, or what they are claiming, is a database of phone numbers and addresses.
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Right.
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And Alex has said, these were my old phone numbers.
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This is correct.
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These are the phone numbers that I have for Donald Trump.
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These are real phone numbers.
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But as we know...
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He doesn't know Donald Trump's phone number.
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No, every time he gets a call, he's like, wait, I think this is the right area code for the president.
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He keeps saying that.
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So his claim that he has multiple phone numbers for Trump, it falls flat for us.
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Well, but he does have Trump's in different area codes, right?
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Is that what we're saying right there?
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Yeah, yeah.
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Rest in peace, Nate Dogg.
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But he has these things that he published with some redacted parts, you know, like you don't want to...
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Fake redacted parts?
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Well, no, but even if you do have this information that you've got, you don't want to dox tons of people.
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So they clipped off parts of phone numbers and what have you.
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Okay.
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They claimed that it was a part of a massive index of people who were being spied on, and this is from this whistleblower's information.
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Now, the problem that we have with that is that that is completely unprovable, and all of this information could have been gotten by someone who has...
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The minimal amount of hacking skills and is willing to falsify documents.
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Yeah.
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So keep that in mind as we go further.
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I am struggling to keep it in mind right now.
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Anything that Alex has posted does not have to come, like, every piece of evidence that he's posted on the website does not have to come from, like, an NSA source or a CIA source.
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It's all very easily accessible information.
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Like, a lot of the information is the address of Mar-a-Lago.
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I could Google that.
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Yeah.
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Did he just print out a part of the phone book?
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I don't think he did.
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I think someone else did and sent it to him as evidence of a leak.
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Okay.
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So it's not the white papers.
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It's the white pages.
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That's what we're talking about right now.
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Exactly.
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Nailed it.
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Nailed it.
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See, I can soundbite.
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Yeah.
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You think I can't soundbite?
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I think you can soundbite, baby.
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I can soundbite all day.
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So this is basically the construction of what is going on.
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Right.
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We're building the foundation of a lie about spies.
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A spy lie.
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A spy lie.
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And Alex is using whatever information that he got as evidence that Trump has been being spied on.
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He's using it as evidence that he was right all along.
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Which is none.
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Right.
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So, on Monday, he has an interview with a guy named Mike Zullo.
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Okay.
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And Mike Zullo is a former detective.
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Yes.
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So he's come back for one last job.
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Right.
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Is he two or three days away from retirement?
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Please give me something.
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He's certainly passed.
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Okay.
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He's currently a used car dealer, as far as I can tell.
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Okay.
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That's what I found in my slight bits of research.
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Sideways move.
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I don't care too much about Mike Zullo, necessarily.
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All right.
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What I do care about more is that he is an employee and former, well, former employee, because he's not in work anymore, of Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
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Great.
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He was a member of his cold case posse.
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Oh, no.
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And now I think it is time that we start to deal a tiny bit with Joe Arpaio.
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That racist, garbage pile of human fuckface.
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That guy?
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That guy?
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It's who I was talking about earlier when I said, when you look at him, he's way worse than even what you just said.
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Yeah.
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I did not know if you could get worse than everything I know about him.
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So we're going to get to it, and Mike Zulo is going to make the argument...
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That's like finding out the devil is also Alex Jones.
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Like, it just doesn't get much worse.
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You think the devil can't go lower, but there we go.
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The devil also, like, you know, cheats at cards or something like that.
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God damn it, man.
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Come on.
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In the Old West, though, so you always shoot him.
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Yeah, yeah.
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So, we'll get to Zulo's point, which is basically that when Joe Arpaio was being tried for contempt of court for not making the necessary changes that a judge insisted that he make based on findings that they had of racial discrimination in the Maricopa County...
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Police force.
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Right.
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The part where he didn't follow the law on one occasion.
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Twice.
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And then also didn't follow the law telling him to follow the law.
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There were two times that he was brought into court in 2008 and 2010 and told, you need to make these changes.
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This is a severe problem.
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And then he didn't.
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And he was held in contempt of court.
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Yeah.
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Instead of arrested and had his left leg cut off as what should have happened.
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Right.
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In this court case...
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I don't want to, like he's right-legged, so I don't want to remove his good leg.
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Sure, sure.
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His dominant leg.
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He needs to be able to kick.
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Yeah, exactly.
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So Mike Zulo is going to make the argument as we go along that he was being surveilled upon and wiretapped during that investigation, and we'll deal with that in a moment.
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But what I want to deal with first is I want to give an accurate picture of who Sheriff Joe Arpaio is.
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Let's get down to it.
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I have...
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Pages.
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Oh boy.
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Of instances where any single one of these is disqualifying.
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So get ready.
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Does he say grab him by the pussy a bunch?
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No.
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Because we know that's only locker room talking.
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So he's the sheriff of Maricopa County in Arizona.
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Yeah.
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In 1993, Joe Arpaio set up a tent city.
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To house his inmates outside, he did not believe that they deserved to be inside.
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Great.
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Arpaio literally described the tent city as a, quote, concentration camp.
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That's good.
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Bad news.
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I like his willingness to embrace his monstrosity.
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Like, he didn't even bother to call it something different.
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He's like, if I could burn you.
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I would.
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I would totally do that.
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But the law or something says I can't.
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Speaking of burning these inmates...
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Please don't say any more after that.
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On July 2nd, 2011, when temperatures in Phoenix hit 118 degrees Fahrenheit, Arpaio measured the temperature inside tent city tents as 145 degrees Fahrenheit.
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Some inmates complained that their fans near their beds were not working and that their shoes were melting from the heat.
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Jesus.
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During the summer of 2003, when outside temperatures exceeded 110 degrees Fahrenheit, Arpaio said to complaining inmates, it's 120 degrees in Iraq and the soldiers are living in tents and they didn't commit any crimes, so shut your mouths.
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He's not a human being, is he?
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Nope.
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He's not.
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In 1997...
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How do you do that?
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How do you not have any empathy for another human being?
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In 1997, Amnesty International said Arpaio's Tent City Jail is not a, quote, adequate or humane alternative to housing inmates in suitable jail facilities.
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People get mad when you leave a dog in a fucking car, and this dude is literally burning people alive in the desert sun.
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Tent City is criticized by groups contending that there are violations of human and Constitutional rights implicit in its formation.
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All the rights!
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It's a war crime!
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Yep.
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You wouldn't do that at fucking Guantanamo Bay!
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Well, his argument is that they're criminals, and who cares?
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That's a bad argument!
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Fuck them, they committed crimes.
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No, that's a really bad argument!
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Sure.
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One of Arpaio's public relations actions was the requirement that inmates wear pink underwear in order to prevent its theft by the released inmates, which is a stupid rationale.
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Yeah, but I mean, that's the most harmless thing I've ever heard anybody do.
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He claims that he has saved the county $70,000 in the first year of this rule was in effect.
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That's a lot of fucking underwear.
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That's lies.
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Pink underwear costs 50 cents more in my experience.
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Arpaio subsequently started to sell customized pink boxers with the Maricopa County Sheriff's logo and Go Joe on them as a fundraiser for Sheriff's Posse Association.
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What?
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Despite allegations of misuse of funds received from these sales, Arpaio declined to provide an accounting for the money.
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So he basically used it as a promotional tool, and there's no evidence also that he saved that $70,000 at all.
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So, we're ending with his financial crimes.
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We're not even ending.
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What?
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We're not even close.
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No!
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In 2010, Arpaio put together an armed illegal immigration posse to help enforce immigration laws.
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Why do you keep saying posse?
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Posse's bad.
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It's real bad.
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You know what?
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It gets worse.
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This posse included...
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Actors Steven Seagal and Lou Ferrigno.
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No, that's better.
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I am way more comfortable with that posse now.
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They have guns.
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One, I know that that posse is immune to ninjas.
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That's the first thing we know about that posse.
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No ninjas.
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And then if anybody gets really out of control, they've got somebody to fall back on.
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He's a big green guy.
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I don't know if you've ever met him.
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You would not.
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You would not like me if you're illegal.
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Especially not if you're...
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Oh, God.
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Joe Arpaio's a monster.
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We're not even close to the tip of the iceberg.
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The ACLU has alleged that, quote, Arpaio routinely abused pre-trial detainees at Maricopa County Jail by feeding them moldy bread, rotten fruit, and other contaminated food.
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housing them in cells so hot as to endanger their health denying them care for serious medical and mental health needs and keeping them packed as tightly as sardines and holding cells for days at a time during indignation Is this the fucking medieval ages?
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What is fucking happening?
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That's before they were charged.
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That's before they were charged with a fucking crime.
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This is pre-trial detainees.
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That's not good.
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That's insane.
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You should probably treat those people...
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No, you should treat human beings like human beings.
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A federal judge named Neil Wake ruled in 2008 and 2010 that the county jails violated human and constitutional rights of the inmates.
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Yeah.
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That's a very simple ruling.
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That should have taken like 20 seconds.
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Under Arpaio, the Maricopa County jails have lost accreditation multiple times.
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In September 2008, the National Committee on Correctional Health Care terminated the accreditation of Maricopa County Sheriff's Office jails for failure to maintain compliance with national standards and providing false information about such compliance.
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What does that mean?
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They lied.
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What do you mean?
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No, I mean lost accreditation.
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Does that mean people aren't allowed to be in there anymore?
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No, just that they're not supported by these medical associations that are in charge of keeping...
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So he's still allowed to treat people inhumanely.
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They just say, I think that's bad.
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Basically, yeah.
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But it's a big deal.
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They're fucking amazing.
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But it's a big deal.
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I love their life-saving abilities here.
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They have no enforcement capabilities, but they do have...
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Me.
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How is it that Alex Jones can get a fuckface to go to a goddamn pizza restaurant, but we can't get human beings to save other human beings' lives that are being burned alive?
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In October 2008...
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Liberals are pussies, that's why.
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In October 2008, a U.S. District Court judge ruled that grossly inadequate conditions at the Maricopa County Jail, overseen by Arpaio, are unconstitutional and jeopardize the health and safety of prisoners.
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Yeah.
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I hate to keep hammering on that, but these are different cases also.
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Arpaio has said that his jails are meant as places of punishment, and the inhabitants are criminals, although, in fact, most inmates have not been convicted of a crime and are awaiting trial.
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Fuck.
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Fuck.
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What the fuck?
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It gets worse.
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Where do these people fucking come from?
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It gets worse.
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Who the fuck?
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It gets worse.
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At least Ted Bundy was honest about his monstrosity.
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Sure.
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Like, I would much rather...
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Like, he's a sociopath that's still allowed to roam the streets.
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Like, he just figured out how to fucking turn it into a money...
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Like, he turned being Ted Bundy into a job.
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That's what he did.
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And he was re-elected like four times.
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Well, Arizona's a fucking garbage hole filled with old white people.
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That's fair.
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Here's another one for you.
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Under Arpaio, the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office may have improperly cleared or reported as solved as many as 75% of cases without arrest or proper investigation.
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How's that grab you?
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During a three-year period ending in 2007, more than 400 sex crimes reported to Arpaio's office were inadequately investigated or not investigated at all.
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While providing police services for El Mirage, Arizona, the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office under Arpaio failed to follow through on at least 32 reported child molestations.
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Jesus fuck, why?
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Even though the suspects were known in all but six cases.
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Here's why.
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Many of the children who were victims were illegal immigrants.
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Fuck!
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He doesn't care.
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How do you not care about that?
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I don't know.
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Like, even...
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Fuck!
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In 1999, undercover Maricopa County Sheriff's Office deputies arrested James Saville, then 18 years old, and charged him with plotting to kill Arpaio with a pipe bomb.
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A local television station had been tipped off to the arrest by the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office and broadcast footage of the arrest that evening.
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The Maricopa County Sheriff's Office held a news conference shortly after the arrest, and Arpaio appeared in interviews on a local television station saying, quote, If they think they're going to scare me away with bombs and everything else, it's not going to bother me.
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After spending four years in jail awaiting trial, Seville was abducted.
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Four years awaiting trial!
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Yep.
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He was about to sign a plea deal that would have sent him to prison for 20 years.
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Although he maintained his innocence, he was initially unwilling to take a chance on being sentenced to even longer than that he had been convicted, if he were convicted.
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However, the former head of undercover investigations for the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office called Seville's legal team with a bombshell.
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Based on his review of the case, he felt that Seville had been entrapped.
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Although entrapment is all but impossible to prove in most jurisdictions, Seville's attorneys eventually discovered that the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office detectives had bought the What?
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then convinced Seville to build it, even though he was not predisposed to commit such a crime.
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On July 9th, 2003...
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Maricopa County's Superior Court jury acquitted Seville, finding that the bomb plot was an elaborate publicity stunt to boost Arpaio's re-election bid.
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Are you fucking serious?
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He did the Nixon?
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In 2004, Seville argued Arpaio and the Maricopa County...
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He sued Arpaio in Maricopa County for wrongful arrest and entrapment, seeking $10 million in damages.
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He deserves more, and Joe Arpaio should have been hit with a fucking pipe bomb.
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In 2008, the suit was settled with Maricopa County paying Seville $1.6 million.
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So, a little bit less than the $10 million he should have gotten.
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He should have gotten fucking a billion dollars.
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So, I am, like, this is the hardest thing.
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I am against the death penalty.
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But Joe Arpaio should be fucking killed.
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He should be dead.
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There's only one reason for the death penalty.
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It's for fucking monsters like him.
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He's abused the public trust to such a deep extent.
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He's abused human beings.
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He should be fucking...
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There's no other solution for that guy.
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We're not done.
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No!
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He's already dead.
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This is the producer.
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He's already in my brain.
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It gets even worse.
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It can't!
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The Justice Department accused Arpaio of engaging in, quote, unconstitutional policing by unfairly targeting Latinos for detention and arrest and retaliating against critics.
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In the report, a Justice Department concluded that Arpaio oversaw, quote, the worst pattern of racial profiling in U.S. history.
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In 2015?
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That's fucking hard to do!
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After all our genocides, that's a tough one.
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If you get labeled with that, wow!
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In 2015, Arpaio was charged with contempt of court for failing to implement a court's required changes to his police force regarding rampant racial profiling.
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He was also found to have destroyed evidence in the case.
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Yeah, of fucking course he did!
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He's also publicly promoted the Obama birther hoax repeatedly.
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Up to December of last year, 2016, he was, quote, investigating the birth certificate, and he erroneously claimed he found nine points of forgery in Obama's birth certificate.
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So, alright.
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I was gonna take notes, but then I just started slitting my fucking wrists.
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In 2008, when Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon called for a federal investigation into Arpaio's immigration enforcement tactics, Arpaio's office responded by demanding the mayor's emails and phone logs.
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Arpaio also had his critic, Maricopa County Supervisor Don Stapley, a Republican, arrested on suspicion of failing to properly disclose business interests.
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Stapley agreed to a $3.5 million settlement in his lawsuit against Arpaio, Thomas, and the county for false arrest.
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So he's tried to jail his critics multiple times and been sued for it and lost.
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He's cost the county so many millions of dollars.
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Because of these illegal tactics that he's undergone.
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And he was re-elected four times.
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And they tried to have a runoff election twice.
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Drop the mic there.
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It failed both times.
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Really?
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Which is crazy.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Oh, wow.
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That's how it goes.
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How could this country have elected Trump?
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Oh, that's...
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How?
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That's how it goes with deeply entrenched illegal...
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This fucking racist pile of shit.
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Yeah.
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So, you might think that he's a racist, he's a bigot, he's awful.
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How is he not in jail?
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Because he argues that he gets results.
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How is he not in jail, though?
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He committed all the crimes.
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He might be soon.
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He should be dead.
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His argument is that he's gruff, but he gets results.
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No!
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That's not an argument in a case of law!
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But also, listen to this.
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In 1998...
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I can't argue...
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Oh, okay.
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Here's...
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Jordan, you're under arrest for terrorism.
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Uh, excuse me, I believe I get results.
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That's not an argument!
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In 1998, Arpaio commissioned a study by Arizona State University criminal justice professor Marie L. Griffin to examine recidivism rates based on conditions of confinement.
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So basically, like, before him...
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How often people come back to jail.
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But it's also...
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The study is supposed to be before him and after him.
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Or, like, while he's in charge and his predecessor.
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Oh, for fuck's sake.
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Comparing recidivism rates under Arpaio to those of his predecessor, the study found, quote, there's no significant difference in recidivism observed between those offenders released in 1989 to 90 and those released in 1994 to 1995.
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So what you're saying is that he is both a criminal, a monster, and his defense of I get results does not actually get results.
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Statistically, it is a lie.
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He's a fucking...
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How could you not prosecute him?
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Like, there's no way that you could not...
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Put him in jail forever and ever and ever.
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For all the lives that there are.
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I know that this is a lot of information and it's long, but I'm giving you all of this.
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I want to believe in reincarnation or ghosts just so that guy can be tortured every moment for the rest of fucking eternity.
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I'm giving you all of this information and there's still even more, but the reason is because the interview that Alex does is with this guy's close associate.
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So a guy who's carrying water for Joe Arpaio is who Alex has on.
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By the transitive property of you're a fucking monster, we can determine that we're talking to a fucking monster.
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That this guy was up to some shit.
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Yeah, he's an evil man.
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So guys, here's the situation.
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There's a lot of really fucked up stuff that you can find out about the history of Joe Arpaio and the Maricopa County Sheriff's Association.
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And I just got a...
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Fucking bullet point list of the absolute utter monstrosity of this man.
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Upon reflection, me and Jordan have talked it over and we've decided that a lot of the stuff is not right for us to necessarily be broadcasting.
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It's sensitive stuff.
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I think you should find this on your own in a comfortable place because listening to it in a row is...
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Overwhelming.
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It shook me.
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A good place to start is just his Wikipedia page.
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Yeah, no kidding.
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A lot of citations you can find about that if you want to go.
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You can find out more about the depths of the truly irresponsible and evil police work that Joe Arpaio presided over.
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He ranks up there with everyone convicted in the Nuremberg trials.
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I genuinely believe that.
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So anyway, guys, this...
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Look into it.
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We'll wait.
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We'll be here.
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Are we going to give a moment of silence?
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No.
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Let's get into...
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Feel free to press pause.
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We will wait four seconds for you and then we'll kick right back in.
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Here's me tapping my foot waiting.
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So here we go.
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We get into now this interview with Mike Zullo.
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Yeah.
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Who again is...
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One of the higher-ups of the Maricopa County, former higher-ups, as it were.
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Alex does a lot of vamping.
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He's an accomplice to every single thing that Joe Arpaio has done.
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Yes.
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Well, I mean...
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I mean, he hasn't always been there, but in spirit.
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Yeah.
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He implicitly signed off by supporting him and still supporting him to this day.
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So Alex does a lot of sort of opening presentation before he gets to the interview.
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So I'm going to play a couple clips of that.
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Okay.
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Bombshell, Obama's NSA illegally spied on Sheriff Arpaio's prosecution.
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They've got the documents, the surveillance, Arpaio's house, his office, all of it spied on and used in the federal court.
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Again, Sheriff Arpaio they're trying to put in prison.
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Wow.
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Good.
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Federal officer, long-serving, decorated sheriff, patriot.
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Monster.
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Obama trying to put him in prison.
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Murderer.
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Using the spy grid.
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To try to make up garbage.
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Racist.
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And guess who else is in the database?
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Yours truly.
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Isn't that just special?
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Not particularly.
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Yeah, I guess it's a who's who of the patriots in there.
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Kind of want to get on that list, don't you?
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Nope.
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Definitely not.
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Shifting a bunch of papers.
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Which list was he shifting right there?
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I think it was the Red List.
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The Red List?
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Oh, no!
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So, the argument that he's making there...
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Isn't that the Black List?
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Oh, maybe it is.
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The Red List was commies.
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I don't know.
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Isn't that the one that starred David Duchovny?
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No, that's the Red Shoe Diaries.
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Oh, shit.
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So, the argument that he's making there is that Arpaio was being...
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Spied on during his trial and what have you.
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This is absolute utter nonsense.
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Why would you need to?
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The secondary argument that he's making is that this database has come out with all of these...
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All these people's names, and Alex Jones is one of them.
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The knock list from Mission Impossible.
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I think it's the black list starring James Spader.
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I corrected my reference.
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Alright, fine.
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You win this round.
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We'll get a little bit further down the line and make sure...
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I'll get back to why that's bullshit in a second, but let's get through his introductions here.
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This is where he connects...
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What's going on, the Arpaio spying situation, to what we're going to be talking about later.
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The bigger case that involves Trump, that involves Alex, it's this guy named Dennis Montgomery, who is that NSA-CIA whistleblower, who is much bigger than Snowden.
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I swear to God, have you seen the movie Zodiac?
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Yeah.
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Have you seen any movie where somebody has a giant fucking pinboard filled with string connecting one thing to another?
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Because it's on your goddamn wall!
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It's in my head.
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This one's real simple, though.
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I assure you, this is not that hard to code.
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One line of string.
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That's all we needed for this one.
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Basically.
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This was all brought to them years ago in federal court.
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They ignored it.
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And this is when he started coming after Arpaio even harder because they knew he had the whistleblower that had all this information.
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So, he connects everything there.
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This whistleblower in question is this guy named Dennis Montgomery.
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Dennis Montgomery!
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Would you like a backstory on him now or later?
► 00:35:48
Let's go with half and half.
► 00:35:50
Give me one bit of backstory.
► 00:35:52
One bit of backstory?
► 00:35:53
Yeah.
► 00:35:53
Okay, here's a fun one.
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Dennis Montgomery was a guy who founded a video compression noise filtering business called Etrepid Technologies.
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A video compression noise filtering business?
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In 1998, he founded this company.
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Oh, okay.
► 00:36:08
The business started out as a tool for the casino industry, but eventually they sought out government contracts.
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In 2014, Montgomery was revealed to be working as a confidential informant for Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
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He claimed that when he was contracting for the CIA through the Etrepid Technologies, the government contracts that he was doing, he obtained documents that proved a conspiracy against Arpaio.
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Basically, that the Department of Justice under Eric Holder was working with the judge in the case, in Arpaio's racial profiling case, that the two of them were working together.
► 00:36:43
Isn't that just called doing the law?
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In this case, it's conspiracy.
► 00:36:50
Well, I mean...
► 00:36:51
Is conspiracy, is it just like, hey, let's partner up?
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I guess, yeah.
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I mean, you can't, man.
► 00:37:00
You can't partner up?
► 00:37:01
Otherwise, it's a conspiracy?
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The allegation was that he was alleged wiretapping them, which the DOJ...
► 00:37:08
So if the judge gave them permission to wiretap him, that's still not conspiracy.
► 00:37:12
Well, I mean, I don't know if there is that permission, so, I mean, I also don't...
► 00:37:16
Have you seen the wire?
► 00:37:18
Let me put all my cards on the table.
► 00:37:19
Put all those cards on the table.
► 00:37:21
I don't think there was a wiretap.
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There was definitely not a wiretap.
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Also, we know how bad a dude Joe Arpaio is.
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He's a fucking monster who manufactured his own pipe bomb publicity stunt.
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In this 2004 claim that Montgomery made in this court case, Arpaio later characterized the result of Montgomery's investigation as, quote, junk.
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Oh, so even Arpaio thinks Dennis Montgomery's a fucking idiot.
► 00:37:45
Yep.
► 00:37:46
Alright, then he's the perfect man to come on.
► 00:37:48
Alex Jones!
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No, Montgomery's not gonna appear.
► 00:37:51
Oh, okay.
► 00:37:51
Montgomery is a shadowy figure that's just talked about.
► 00:37:54
Alright, so he's a vampire.
► 00:37:55
Yes.
► 00:37:57
Mike Zulo, who is Arpaio's detective.
► 00:38:01
Who's Arpaio's Danny Zuko.
► 00:38:02
Now car salesman.
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Is aghast here that we...
► 00:38:07
We are leading up to, I'm telling you, Alex does such an elaborate and super long introduction.
► 00:38:12
Is Mike Zullo at least on screen watching the whole introduction looking awkwardly and uncomfortable?
► 00:38:19
No, because Jerome Corsi is.
► 00:38:20
Oh, good.
► 00:38:21
Thank God.
► 00:38:22
If somebody's not looking uncomfortable while Alex Jones is introducing somebody, I get real bummed out.
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I'm not joking at all.
► 00:38:28
Jerome Corsi is hanging out.
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Just in the corner, kind of pacing back and forth.
► 00:38:34
He has hooked things up between Mike Zullo and Alex to do an interview.
► 00:38:38
Right, blind date style.
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So he is there as like a third wheel.
► 00:38:43
Anyway, okay, so...
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Blind date style.
► 00:38:45
At this point, Alex drops a little bit of information that shows that he doesn't have any actual information about the situation that he's going to be discussing.
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So let's recap what happened yesterday.
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I love it.
► 00:38:59
Let's recap what happened yesterday.
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Please do.
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And recap that, to give them credit, Newsmax and Larry Klayman, who's been at the center of this.
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I'm going to get Klayman on it as soon as possible.
► 00:39:09
They're the ones that got the documents, and then they were able to interface them with Arpaio that show all this.
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And they've got a report on the whistleblower himself.
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It's like another Snowden.
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He was a contractor.
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So I need that info.
► 00:39:20
I had it last night.
► 00:39:20
I need it.
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If you don't know where it is, just go to yesterday's interview with Zulo.
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He talks about it in the first few minutes.
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I need it bad.
► 00:39:27
I need it.
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Uber bad.
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He doesn't know what to talk about unless this information is sitting right in front of him.
► 00:39:33
Because he doesn't know the situation.
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Of course not.
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He only knows if he's reading off some piece of paper.
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Meanwhile, he yells about he's teleprompter free.
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He doesn't know the story.
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He only knows if his staff is feeding him information.
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Let's recap what happened yesterday.
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He, Alex, had published a list of people's phone numbers and addresses that was allegedly from this Montgomery, this Dennis Montgomery guy.
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Right.
► 00:39:58
Well, let's recap what happened yesterday.
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I just did.
► 00:40:01
Oh.
► 00:40:01
Well, let's recap what happened yesterday.
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He posted that.
► 00:40:04
Oh, okay.
► 00:40:04
And he thinks it's evidence that Trump is being spied on and that- Because Joe Arpaio is spied on.
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And that within this massive group of documents that- Dennis Montgomery has revealed, but he hasn't revealed...
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The new Snowden.
► 00:40:18
Yeah, he hasn't revealed any of his documents.
► 00:40:21
The Newton.
► 00:40:21
Edward Snowden.
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All that proves that James Comey is a fucking liar.
► 00:40:25
Right.
► 00:40:26
James Comey is a fucking liar.
► 00:40:27
All of this is going on, and Trump is being fucking railroaded.
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It's good.
► 00:40:31
Yeah.
► 00:40:32
I like it.
► 00:40:33
So, this...
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I wish he was on a railroad where somebody was...
► 00:40:38
Twisting their pencil-thin mustache.
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But this time, no Dudley Do-Right is coming.
► 00:40:44
Once again, I want to use this next clip to just establish that Alex is specifically talking about Trump stuff and Arpaio stuff as being the exact same thing.
► 00:40:57
What about butt stuff?
► 00:40:58
Butt stuff is in the mix.
► 00:41:00
I think it's in play?
► 00:41:01
Yeah, it's in play.
► 00:41:02
The second part of the series that Dr. Corsi put up.
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Today, published at Infowars.com, NSA document proves surveillance of Donald Trump and his family.
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Bombshell Discovery shows targets of NSA Project Dragnet.
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Here's a Larry Klayman article, that's the guy that found the judicial watch, at Newsmax.
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Nunes must ask FBI, that's the House Intelligence Committee head again, must ask FBI's company about Montgomery mass surveillance case.
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And that's the case given to Arpaio that the feds haven't denied.
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With the 47 hard drives over 60 million pages of information.
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Much bigger than Snowden.
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Cucking out Snowden.
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But that doesn't...
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Necessarily.
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Like, yeah, he's got a mountain of empty...
► 00:41:49
Hard drives?
► 00:41:51
Three by five floppies.
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He's got a mountain of them.
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More than Snowden's ever even seen.
► 00:41:56
They claim it's actually 600 million documents.
► 00:41:59
Alex undersold it as 60 million documents.
► 00:42:01
600 million documents?
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The issue is that no one really knows what's on them or if they're even real.
► 00:42:06
How could you?
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It would be impossible to have processed any of that information at this point.
► 00:42:11
Even with a couple years' lead time, you couldn't process 600 million documents.
► 00:42:16
Now, there's a couple issues.
► 00:42:18
Well, I mean, if McDonald's can sell 99 billion, yeah, I think we can do it in about 10 years.
► 00:42:26
So, Alex's proof that all of this is real is that his phone number and his old phone number is in this database, along with Donald Trump's phone numbers, which, again, we have suspicions whether he actually knows or not.
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He does not know.
► 00:42:40
Here's a clip of him providing literally the only evidence he gives at any point that this stuff is true.
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The Super Snowden leaks show Obama spied on Trump, Alex Jones, Sheriff Arpaio.
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It's all there.
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How sensational.
► 00:42:58
Drudge, the biggest news site in the world, rated the second biggest website in the world, period, has had this link since yesterday at 4 o 'clock.
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Guys, search engine Alex Jones, click Google, or search engine NSA, whatever.
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As of Showtime, I've seen nothing on this.
► 00:43:14
I've never seen that.
► 00:43:15
Total blackout.
► 00:43:17
They don't know how to respond.
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Let me tell you, these phone numbers, these private phone numbers, his private apartment at Mar-a-Lago and all that, these are the numbers.
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My old cell phone number nobody had, that's real.
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My old private office, that's real.
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All these numbers?
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Real.
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This is real.
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They already know that.
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That's why they're so scared.
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They're running around saying, to the whole world, Trump's insane.
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No one ever surveilled you.
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Why would you have an office phone number that nobody could know?
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I don't know.
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Shouldn't you?
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It's dumb.
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Why would you even have an office phone?
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If nobody's supposed to know your office phone number.
► 00:44:00
I mean, you hit the nail right on the head.
► 00:44:02
A lot of this stuff is conceivably public information.
► 00:44:05
It's definitely public information.
► 00:44:07
But even Alex Jones' cell phone number, I guarantee I could find it.
► 00:44:10
He probably gave it on air at one point.
► 00:44:12
I guarantee that if I had a tiny bit of hacking ability, I could find his phone number.
► 00:44:17
You can find anybody's private information really easily.
► 00:44:20
Yeah.
► 00:44:20
Based on all of the places that you would have dropped it.
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He probably put it on fucking Facebook.
► 00:44:24
If you ever went to college, all of that information is really easily accessible.
► 00:44:28
Like, a bunch of your...
► 00:44:29
Well, I mean, we do know he only ever went to community college, and I'm assuming he's changed his cell phone since then.
► 00:44:35
Well, right, but I mean, a lot of the...
► 00:44:37
So they have his community college cell phone number?
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Sure, that could be what he said.
► 00:44:40
They got it!
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It's real.
► 00:44:42
I don't think cell phones were around back then, but be that as it may, but what I'm saying is a lot of these things, you end up filing information places, and a lot of your private information is much more accessible than people think.
► 00:44:54
I've seen tons of news reports about this where just...
► 00:44:57
Mid-level, basic hacking individuals, let's say.
► 00:45:03
Not even the most evolved hackers are able to find tons and tons of private information about people, and not illegally.
► 00:45:09
They're just able to find it.
► 00:45:11
You can get fucking...
► 00:45:13
Courtesy calls on your cell phone now.
► 00:45:16
Yeah.
► 00:45:16
They're just selling your number.
► 00:45:17
Like, if you've ever gotten a call on your cell phone polling you, that's because somebody sold your fucking number.
► 00:45:23
Yeah.
► 00:45:23
You can easily...
► 00:45:24
Yeah.
► 00:45:24
All that information is super easy to find.
► 00:45:26
Yeah.
► 00:45:27
So the fact that he's using it as proof of an NSA CIA database is cockamamie.
► 00:45:32
It's ludicrous.
► 00:45:33
It could have just been fucking AT&T.
► 00:45:35
Yeah, absolutely.
► 00:45:36
And I mean, if we really want to get down to the bottom of it, I'm against that.
► 00:45:41
I don't like the idea that people are selling information, but that's a whole other thing to unpack.
► 00:45:45
That's not what Alex is talking about.
► 00:45:47
Anyway.
► 00:45:48
It was unpacked yesterday, I believe.
► 00:45:50
It's now legal to sell all of your information.
► 00:45:52
So, here we go.
► 00:45:53
They signed it into law!
► 00:45:55
Here we go.
► 00:45:55
Alex is, again, reinforcing his own sort of narrative, but doing it incredibly poorly, because, again, this is what he says in terms of, like, we have the proof.
► 00:46:07
We have all the headlines.
► 00:46:10
Wiretap data.
► 00:46:10
We can show it to you all day long.
► 00:46:12
You can show us headlines all day long, but that doesn't matter.
► 00:46:16
Edit it in so right before he says that, you say the exact...
► 00:46:19
Don't say we have all the proof and then he says we have all the headlines.
► 00:46:21
You have to say we have all the headlines, then he says it.
► 00:46:24
He's got the headlines.
► 00:46:25
It's perfect.
► 00:46:26
It's perfect.
► 00:46:27
You look like a fucking genius.
► 00:46:28
So anyway, here we go.
► 00:46:29
We're going to get into the actual Zulo interview now.
► 00:46:33
Zulo's going to lay out a story.
► 00:46:35
That, unfortunately, as he tells the story, you start to get the picture that he actually doesn't have shit.
► 00:46:44
It's really unfortunate.
► 00:46:46
And the title that I gave this clip is, They Don't Know What To Do With The Information.
► 00:46:52
You know, to put it in a nutshell, to address the question you just asked, we really don't know what is going on.
► 00:46:58
We know that we made every endeavor to bring...
► 00:47:02
Mr. Montgomery, his information to federal authorities.
► 00:47:06
Like I said earlier, we contacted Larry Klayman for his assistance, and under the direction of Sheriff Arpaio, we brought Mr. Montgomery to Judge Royce Lamberth, who used to be the head of the FISA court.
► 00:47:20
Judge Lamberth was the FISA judge that authorized the Bin Laden wiretaps in his living room at 3 o 'clock in the morning.
► 00:47:27
And we got him there.
► 00:47:28
The dilemma was...
► 00:47:30
For all involved, is where do we go with this?
► 00:47:34
Mr. Montgomery, during his tenure as a contractor, the FBI, and this is in court documents, had illegally executed a search warrant on his home with fabricated affidavits to a judge.
► 00:47:48
And that was all bared out in a trial.
► 00:47:52
He did not, for obvious reasons, trust the FBI or want to work with the FBI.
► 00:47:56
That posed a problem for us.
► 00:47:58
Because the only other place we could have gone to at that time would have been the Department of Justice, and I believe at that time it was still Eric Holder.
► 00:48:05
That was a problem.
► 00:48:06
So here's why it's a problem for them.
► 00:48:09
Because it's not a thing?
► 00:48:11
No.
► 00:48:11
Okay.
► 00:48:12
Allegedly, all of this 600 million documents is confidential information.
► 00:48:18
So they can't just go to a lawyer.
► 00:48:21
Yeah, they're illegally holding it.
► 00:48:22
Yeah.
► 00:48:23
He stole all this, allegedly, from the NSA.
► 00:48:27
It is a problem to take it to the Department of Justice when Holder is willing to prosecute you.
► 00:48:34
But also, this guy, Mike Zullo, in the next interview that we're going to be dealing with is this guy who keeps coming up, Larry Klayman.
► 00:48:41
The two of them can't know anything about what's on those documents.
► 00:48:45
And if they do...
► 00:48:46
They've committed a crime.
► 00:48:47
That's bad.
► 00:48:48
So if they admit that they know anything on it, they have on air committed a crime.
► 00:48:55
That is a pickle!
► 00:48:57
That's really tough.
► 00:48:59
So essentially...
► 00:49:00
That's a fine line to walk.
► 00:49:01
All of these dudes have to...
► 00:49:03
And I believe them.
► 00:49:04
I don't necessarily think that they're lying.
► 00:49:07
They haven't looked at any of it.
► 00:49:09
Or they have.
► 00:49:10
All...
► 00:49:11
No.
► 00:49:11
I think all they're going on...
► 00:49:13
Is what Dennis Montgomery has told them.
► 00:49:17
He has seen the documents.
► 00:49:20
They are telling Alex what Dennis Montgomery has told them they say.
► 00:49:25
So we're playing a big game of telephone here.
► 00:49:27
Basically.
► 00:49:27
That's what's happening.
► 00:49:28
Well, it's back to Johnson, that CIA operative who Alex had on the other day, who had third-hand knowledge of stuff.
► 00:49:36
Yeah, he's got friends who know sources who are right next to the guy.
► 00:49:39
Who have maybe seen the videos that he's talking about, where Michelle Obama says the word honky.
► 00:49:43
God, again, really wish that were true.
► 00:49:46
Again, this is...
► 00:49:47
I would watch that on repeat.
► 00:49:48
Give me a gif of Michelle Obama saying whitey.
► 00:49:52
Third hand reporting.
► 00:49:53
Yes.
► 00:49:54
Third hand.
► 00:49:55
Uh-huh.
► 00:49:56
Thorough.
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That's why they call it thoroughed hand.
► 00:50:00
That's a problem for them.
► 00:50:02
Because they can't make an argument.
► 00:50:05
All they can do is speculate about what possibly is in this information based on what...
► 00:50:11
Dennis Montgomery has told them.
► 00:50:12
So, they're doing everything Alex Jones loves to do.
► 00:50:16
Now, Dennis Montgomery, as we've already established, his investigation to try and help Joe Arpaio was called junk by Joe Arpaio himself.
► 00:50:24
Yeah.
► 00:50:25
So, that's one piece.
► 00:50:28
I can't wait to fucking drop the hammer on this Dennis Montgomery.
► 00:50:31
Let's do it.
► 00:50:32
I'm not doing it now.
► 00:50:32
Jesus Christ!
► 00:50:34
We need to let it build.
► 00:50:35
This is the worst handjob I've ever received.
► 00:50:38
We need to let it build.
► 00:50:38
So, at this point, Zulo is going to explain what happened.
► 00:50:42
They took the information to the FBI.
► 00:50:45
I'll let him spell it out.
► 00:50:46
Larry Klayman was successful in persuading Mr. Montgomery to talk to the FBI, which he did.
► 00:50:53
My understanding, you'll have to clarify this with Larry, Is Mr. Montgomery brought in a sampling of some documentation that the FBI vetted.
► 00:51:06
In return, they contacted him and gave him what is known as production immunity.
► 00:51:11
Again, this is based on Larry, or excuse me, on what Dennis Montgomery has said.
► 00:51:16
They wouldn't have done that, though, if he had...
► 00:51:19
Stolen those documents.
► 00:51:20
He stole 47 hard drives and 600 million documents.
► 00:51:23
Yeah, you remember how Edward Snowden isn't allowed to be in the country anymore?
► 00:51:26
Like, they just won't do it, because then they'll, like, Goodbye!
► 00:51:29
Forever, Edward Snowden!
► 00:51:31
So Dennis Montgomery, instead, la la la, walks into the FBI.
► 00:51:35
He's just hanging around.
► 00:51:35
He shows them these documents.
► 00:51:37
Check out your documents, guys!
► 00:51:39
They let him leave, and then he just has been living his life.
► 00:51:43
Oh, I also want to make this clear.
► 00:51:45
Dennis Montgomery, at this point in 2017, Is like 65 years old.
► 00:51:50
Okay.
► 00:51:50
So he's an old dude.
► 00:51:51
He's not some spry.
► 00:51:52
Edward Snowden's sexy.
► 00:51:54
He's young and it's a fun whistleblower image.
► 00:51:59
Nobody's writing Citizen 64. No, not at all.
► 00:52:05
Nothing against him for being old, but it's like you get in your head this idea because Snowden keeps coming up that he's like some able-bodied young man.
► 00:52:13
He's old as shit.
► 00:52:14
Yeah.
► 00:52:15
You know how hackers usually aren't a 70-year-old dude?
► 00:52:19
But I do believe that he actually...
► 00:52:21
Using dial-up CDs?
► 00:52:23
I mean, we can talk all the shit we want, but I do believe that this guy actually does have some hacking ability.
► 00:52:28
Okay.
► 00:52:28
But that's only because Occam's razor tells me he has to in order to fraudulently create the documents that have been sent to InfoWars.
► 00:52:38
Right.
► 00:52:38
And I'll spell that out a little bit later as we go along.
► 00:52:41
So he knows enough to forge...
► 00:52:44
Bullshit.
► 00:52:44
Yes.
► 00:52:45
Gotcha.
► 00:52:45
Let's talk a little bit more about the FBI situation.
► 00:52:49
And he brought in, I believe it was like 600 million records.
► 00:52:53
Uh-oh.
► 00:52:54
He provided them that information, some time goes by, and they called him back, and they now gave him testimonial immunity.
► 00:53:00
That's right, it's reported.
► 00:53:01
47 hard drives, 60 million pages of information.
► 00:53:06
I mean, this is just unbelievable.
► 00:53:08
This is way bigger than anything WikiLeaks or Snowden ever had.
► 00:53:10
And now we're checking the data.
► 00:53:12
It's all real.
► 00:53:12
There's no way this guy had this.
► 00:53:14
These are real databases.
► 00:53:15
No, not necessarily.
► 00:53:17
Nuh-uh.
► 00:53:18
So, I mean, you know, again, it comes back to, like, a lot of that stuff is fairly easy to find.
► 00:53:25
Google.
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Some of it could be Googled.
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Some of it could just be...
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So, we know Montgomery can Google.
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Which is impressive for a 65-year-old.
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That is not bad.
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No, not bad at all.
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Yeah.
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I know a lot of people who are in their 50s who have no idea.
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They're like, can I Bing it?
► 00:53:38
No, you can't Bing it.
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You can't Bing classified documents.
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Only Google has that.
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Everybody knows this.
► 00:53:45
At this point, Zulo gets into another part that actually sounds like it might have some legs.
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Okay.
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Is he ever going to not be the most boring person to listen to?
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No, because Jerome Corsi is still around.
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Oh, that's true.
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And David Knight.
► 00:54:00
Good point.
► 00:54:00
So he's going to get into this, and it sounds scary, but don't worry about it.
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I'll be right back on the other side of this to explain.
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Let us find out.
► 00:54:09
Don't worry about it.
► 00:54:10
Different info randomly that he obviously can't just go and guess what you're going to spot check, and what did you find?
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The personal information on a lot of the 151,000 people was absolutely correct.
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Although none of them can identify the bank accounts that were alleged to be theirs.
► 00:54:26
That gets to be very interesting because those bank accounts, it is suspected that they are actually fraudulent transactions.
► 00:54:35
Every one of those bank accounts had accounts in it with high speculative real estate, gas and oil, stock plays.
► 00:54:42
So we're talking about a lot of derivatives, speculative things being done in other people's names.
► 00:54:46
Correct.
► 00:54:47
Alex doesn't know what that is.
► 00:54:49
Nope.
► 00:54:49
And, uh, I mean, that's...
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Derivative, speculative things.
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Things.
► 00:54:55
What does he think those are?
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Uh, sugar futures?
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I don't know.
► 00:55:00
Oh, like from trading places?
► 00:55:02
Yeah.
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The orange futures.
► 00:55:03
Gotcha, gotcha.
► 00:55:04
So, that is actually really unfortunate.
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That they use those specifics, because I can trace back exactly what they're talking about.
► 00:55:11
Uh-oh!
► 00:55:13
Papa Dan.
► 00:55:14
Found a little bit of an article from the News Association in Phoenix that was covering the trial of Arpaio.
► 00:55:22
Right.
► 00:55:22
And so, plaintiff's lawyers presented some evidence suggesting that the informant Dennis Montgomery was investigating Snow, who was the lawyer, who was, I'm sorry, not the lawyer, the judge.
► 00:55:34
In Joe Arpaio's racial discrimination case.
► 00:55:37
Okay.
► 00:55:37
So they found some evidence that indicated that Montgomery, Dennis Montgomery, was being employed by Joe Arpaio to investigate the judge.
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Which would be very illegal.
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That's really illegal.
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Yes.
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That fits with our Judge Arpaio knowledge so far.
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Who has actively tried to jail opponents, people who speak out against him, who's caused millions of dollars of lawsuits to be filed because of his dictatorish behavior.
► 00:56:05
He's like every sheriff in any movie from the South during this Reconstruction era.
► 00:56:13
40s era movies.
► 00:56:14
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
► 00:56:15
So Arpaio insisted he hadn't encouraged Montgomery to investigate the judge.
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He would never do that.
► 00:56:22
Instead, Arpaio insisted the informant was investigating bank fraud, and the judge was one of 150,000 alleged victims in Maricopa County.
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Now, that 150,000 is important because that's 1,000 off from the number that this guy just referenced as the NSA-CIA database that allegedly includes Donald Trump and Alex Jones.
► 00:56:45
Do they live in Maricopa County?
► 00:56:48
Uh, no.
► 00:56:50
So it seems like it's a decent possibility that that...
► 00:56:54
They're repurposing bullshit information to different bullshit information.
► 00:56:59
Right.
► 00:57:00
Wow!
► 00:57:01
That's...
► 00:57:01
Well, we should recycle.
► 00:57:03
I think that's a very important thing.
► 00:57:05
Climate change is coming.
► 00:57:06
So if you're going to invent bullshit, you don't want to just keep on throwing your old bullshit away.
► 00:57:11
Use it to grow mushrooms.
► 00:57:12
Exactly!
► 00:57:14
It's great fertilizer for lies.
► 00:57:16
Arpaio and Montgomery had this bank fraud thing that was cover for him investigating this judge that was trying to pass a racial profiling case against him.
► 00:57:28
Right.
► 00:57:28
Well, and the judge is not actually invested in...
► 00:57:31
Striking him down.
► 00:57:33
He's hearing the case.
► 00:57:34
The prosecutors are more the issue.
► 00:57:36
Nah.
► 00:57:37
Judges!
► 00:57:38
He's investigating this judge to try and get leverage over him and what have you.
► 00:57:41
But that fits with the kind of paranoid personality that we're dealing with because he doesn't believe that it is never...
► 00:57:49
He always believes it's one guy.
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It's one guy with all of this power because he's a guy with all of this dumb power.
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So he can't believe there's any kind of system that will eventually tear him down.
► 00:58:00
Nope.
► 00:58:00
In the same way that, you know, Trump is a dictator who can't understand that laws, he can't understand that laws are real.
► 00:58:09
So this part gets a little bit fun here.
► 00:58:11
After the April hearing, Judge Snow ordered that the Sheriff's Office turn over documents relating to Montgomery's investigation.
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These documents include timelines and flowcharts seeming to allege conversations and collusion between Judge Snow, the DOJ, and the law firm of Covington and Burlington.
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Which represents the plaintiffs in the case.
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And factories.
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Four coats.
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Coat factories.
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On Friday, plaintiff's lawyer, Stanley Young, questioned Arpaio repeatedly about Montgomery and presented some evidence to try and show Arpaio knew that Montgomery was looking into Judge Snow and was personally interested in that probe.
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Both Arpaio and his chief deputy Jerry Sheridan testified in this round of hearings they didn't ask Montgomery to make those documents.
► 00:58:56
Sheridan testified earlier in the hearing that he told the detective and sergeant working with Montgomery not to pursue the investigations against Judge Snow.
► 00:59:05
This article goes on to explain that I want to find the exact part because it's fucking hilarious.
► 00:59:12
Arpaio got a fax.
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Young, who was employed by Covington and Burlington, showed Arpaio...
► 00:59:20
That is a great children's book.
► 00:59:21
Arpaio got a fax.
► 00:59:23
So this lawyer...
► 00:59:24
If you give Arpaio a fax...
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This lawyer, Young...
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Who is employed by Covington and Burlington, showed Arpaio had received a fax from Montgomery in November 2013 with an early version of a timeline showing events in the Department of Justice's racial profiling case and the racial profiling case in Judge Snow's court, as well as information about alleged wiretaps against the sheriff.
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On the back of the fax, Arpaio used a typewriter to make some typo-riddled notes.
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What world are we...
► 00:59:52
What decade is it?
► 00:59:54
A fax in 2013 he uses a typewriter on?
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Are we traveling through time right now?
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It's insane.
► 01:00:01
He added handwritten notes about possible connections.
► 01:00:05
He typewrit and handwrote on the same fucking back of a fax?
► 01:00:10
He handwrote notes about possible connections between Judge Snow and the law firm of Covington and Burlington.
► 01:00:17
He also drew a picture of a dinosaur.
► 01:00:19
He drew his hand and turned it into a turkey.
► 01:00:23
These notes mention that former Arizona Senator John Keel worked with the law firm Covington& Burling.
► 01:00:28
There's also mention that Judge Snow's wife worked there as well, which is not true.
► 01:00:36
The notes read, Snow confirmed by U.S. Senate...
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Keough on Judiciary Committee on June 26, 2008.
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Obama takes office January 2009.
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Judge born 1959.
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It's all crazy nonsense.
► 01:00:50
Handwritten, scrawled on the back of this.
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So he's doing numerology.
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Yes, he's desperately trying to...
► 01:00:56
Yeah, he's just making a...
► 01:00:58
And you add those numbers together, and it's 666!
► 01:01:02
Whoa!
► 01:01:03
All of it is...
► 01:01:05
Desperately grasping at straws and clearly Montgomery was not working on a bank fraud case.
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No.
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That was cover that he used.
► 01:01:13
Yeah.
► 01:01:13
A handwritten note also noted, quote, Will Cox's husband in the 150,000.
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That's the people that were allegedly being targeted.
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As well as the number of Jehovah's Witnesses who are going to make it into heaven.
► 01:01:27
Wilcox referred to former Maricopa County supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox's husband, Earl.
► 01:01:33
Arpaio said it was a reference to him...
► 01:01:34
Can we just talk about how those are the whitest names in a row you just...
► 01:01:38
Earl and Mary Rose Wilcox?
► 01:01:40
Yeah.
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Arpaio said it was a reference to him being among the 150,000 victims of bank fraud.
► 01:01:46
That note, quote, totally floored Earl Wilcox, who was seated in the courtroom and saw his own name in the document when it was displayed on a monitor in the gallery.
► 01:01:54
The Wilcoxes are vocal opponents of the sheriff.
► 01:01:57
The sheriff's office had tried to criminally indict Mary Rose Wilcox, and she won a civil suit against the county for the baseless charges.
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So, you get a sense of what's going on here.
► 01:02:08
Arpeo is acting illegally all the time.
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All the time.
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Super all the time.
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All the time.
► 01:02:15
And Montgomery was a confidential informant, in quotes, who was actually doing...
► 01:02:23
Pretty illegal investigations on his behalf.
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Yeah.
► 01:02:26
So that's the sort of, that's the flavor we've got right now.
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I promise you, this is going to develop, and it's going to be a rose petal, blossoming.
► 01:02:37
I would prefer a Bloomin' Onion from TGI Fridays, but if you want to do a rose petal, that's fine.
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If you want to be poetic, that's fine, but I'm an American, okay?
► 01:02:47
At this point, the alleged 151,000 people, who include Donald Trump, Alex Jones, Alex Jones' old office and what have you.
► 01:02:55
His private office number, his old cell phone number, his mom's birthday, his son's bar mitzvah, his great-grandmother's, she's a slave, I don't know.
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Anyways.
► 01:03:07
That exact same database that's being alleged now was used years ago in this court case as alleged information of all people who live in Maricopa County who are being victims of bank fraud in order to cover for an investigation into a federal judge.
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So that's what's going on.
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Alex can't.
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It's possible he doesn't know that.
► 01:03:29
He does not know any of that.
► 01:03:31
All of those words you just said are more words than Alex Jones can understand.
► 01:03:36
Right, but again...
► 01:03:37
You should have boiled that down into a headline, and then maybe Alex Jones could understand it.
► 01:03:41
Headline, Alex Jones full of shit.
► 01:03:43
There you go!
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Can you understand that?
► 01:03:44
Alex Jones understands that!
► 01:03:46
You just...
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Okay, here's what you did.
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Alrighty.
► 01:03:49
You built a case.
► 01:03:51
Yeah.
► 01:03:52
You then gathered evidence for that case.
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I researched pretty heavily.
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That you put a lot of work and time and effort into.
► 01:04:00
All of that points to only one possible conclusion that you can then establish is reality.
► 01:04:06
And I can establish it even further.
► 01:04:08
Now, where do you think in that line Alex Jones would stop?
► 01:04:14
The part where you said...
► 01:04:18
Here's what we're going to do.
► 01:04:19
You know where he would stop?
► 01:04:21
As soon as any indication that he's not totally right, he'd just go, la la la la la la, plug up his ears.
► 01:04:27
Of course not.
► 01:04:27
There's no way he understood what you were talking about.
► 01:04:29
So here's this next clip.
► 01:04:31
It's Mike Zullo again getting into how they don't actually know anything.
► 01:04:35
So I'm going to come down right now on the side of Alex is being duped because he's an idiot.
► 01:04:41
I think that it's possible.
► 01:04:43
I think that there's pretty strong...
► 01:04:45
Well, here's the problem.
► 01:04:46
Later...
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Oh, there are so many problems.
► 01:04:48
Well, later he's going to talk about how great a guy Joe Arpaio is and he talks to him and stuff like that.
► 01:04:53
He talks to Joe Arpaio.
► 01:04:55
Yeah, so I believe that there is a vested interest in Alex defending him.
► 01:04:59
So I don't know if he's...
► 01:05:01
If he's being duped, he's super willing to be duped.
► 01:05:04
Yeah, but we've established...
► 01:05:07
So many times that Alex Jones is always super willing to be dupe.
► 01:05:11
And he is a star fucker.
► 01:05:13
So Joe Arpaio has a certain amount of fame for being a horrific monster.
► 01:05:19
A truly horrific, nightmarish pile of garbage human being.
► 01:05:23
But he's famous, so Alex Jones wants to suck up to him in the same way that he wants to suck up to the fucking nuge.
► 01:05:29
Yeah.
► 01:05:30
And that's what this is.
► 01:05:31
So he's willing to go along.
► 01:05:33
And alleged Nazi Jesse James.
► 01:05:34
Yeah.
► 01:05:35
As well as alleged Nazi Sandra Bullock.
► 01:05:39
Since we've got a lot of...
► 01:05:40
Hey, now.
► 01:05:41
We've got a lot of ground to cover, so I'm going to skip this next clip because it's...
► 01:05:45
Again, we talked about it earlier.
► 01:05:47
It's basically just Zulo repeating in different language that they don't really actually know what's going on.
► 01:05:53
They don't know what the documents say.
► 01:05:55
They can't.
► 01:05:56
It's Zulu in Zulu, is what you're saying.
► 01:05:59
So here, this next clip, is Mike Zulu explaining some of Dennis Montgomery's pedigree and where he comes from, which is actually evidence of my argument that he is able to discover people's private information through techniques he's able to employ on his own.
► 01:06:16
Right.
► 01:06:16
As opposed to Batman, who just kind of hangs out in the bushes.
► 01:06:19
Right.
► 01:06:20
But what did he tell you he was doing, or did he not want to incriminate himself?
► 01:06:23
Well, I don't want to go into too much of what he said.
► 01:06:27
He said it was similar to a contractor like Snowden.
► 01:06:30
Actually, Mr. Montgomery, and this is public, Mr. Montgomery was a contractor who developed the hacking software that could penetrate firewalls of computers, breach them, take over as the administrator, and remain undetected for about an hour and a half.
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And download whatever they want.
► 01:06:50
And that's my understanding.
► 01:06:53
For an hour and a half?
► 01:06:54
That's the time frame.
► 01:06:55
That's like, hey, keep him on the line for 20 seconds, otherwise we won't get his exact location.
► 01:07:01
Exactly.
► 01:07:02
Yeah, that's bullshit.
► 01:07:03
We can mask him for an hour and a half.
► 01:07:04
Why would you build something that only lasts for an hour and a half?
► 01:07:08
Well, because it's a lie.
► 01:07:09
It is a lie.
► 01:07:10
It's 100% a lie.
► 01:07:11
I think it might be a lie.
► 01:07:12
It's a lie.
► 01:07:13
But I do believe that he has some hacking skills.
► 01:07:16
I have done some research and figured out exactly what Dennis Montgomery was doing when he had government contracts.
► 01:07:23
The subtitle of this episode is, Dan has done some research.
► 01:07:27
So, I told you about Dennis Montgomery.
► 01:07:29
In 1998, he founded that company called Etrepid Technologies.
► 01:07:34
Would you call him D. Montgomery Burns?
► 01:07:36
Sure.
► 01:07:37
Thank you.
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We're going to burn him.
► 01:07:41
Like I said, it started out as like a casino tool.
► 01:07:44
You know we didn't start the fire, though.
► 01:07:45
No, but it's always been burning.
► 01:07:48
Eventually, after they started by targeting the casino industry, they started to branch out and try and get government contracts.
► 01:07:54
Right.
► 01:07:54
In 2003, or thereabouts, right around then, Dennis claimed that he had developed software that would analyze barcodes that appeared on Al Jazeera, and he used these decoded information that he gleaned from these barcodes to predict impending terrorist attacks.
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This is what he developed.
► 01:08:12
So he's a student of the Kabbalah?
► 01:08:16
Is that what you're saying right there?
► 01:08:17
No, Al Jazeera is a news network and they have barcodes on it.
► 01:08:20
So they have barcodes and he's just...
► 01:08:23
So he's saying that they're planning terrorist attacks through the barcodes in Al Jazeera.
► 01:08:30
Yes.
► 01:08:31
And he has developed a software that will allow us to predict...
► 01:08:34
It's so needlessly complicated.
► 01:08:37
It kind of makes sense.
► 01:08:39
No, it doesn't.
► 01:08:40
No, send a letter!
► 01:08:41
On a horse!
► 01:08:43
At that point, a gentleman named Tom Ridge was Homeland Security Director of the United States.
► 01:08:49
And he was convinced enough about this software and that it was legit that he used information gleaned from the software to raise the terror alert multiple times.
► 01:08:59
He went so far as to evacuate public buildings and call for flights to be grounded based on interpretations of barcodes on Al Jazeera through Dennis Montgomery's software.
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That's not real.
► 01:09:11
It is.
► 01:09:13
It's very real.
► 01:09:14
Tell me we don't live in a dumb enough world to believe that shit.
► 01:09:17
It's so real.
► 01:09:18
That is...
► 01:09:19
That's legit.
► 01:09:20
Like, you know, is it Kabbalah where it's like they put certain letters of each page of the Bible that correspond to certain verses?
► 01:09:28
Weird Bible code stuff?
► 01:09:29
Yeah, like that whole thing where they predict the end of the world.
► 01:09:32
That's what that is.
► 01:09:33
That's exactly what that is.
► 01:09:34
It's the same sort of logic.
► 01:09:35
It's bullshit.
► 01:09:36
Yeah, it's insane.
► 01:09:37
That makes no...
► 01:09:37
No sense!
► 01:09:38
Just because I don't want to ruin where this is going to go.
► 01:09:41
Like, this isn't the wind talkers!
► 01:09:42
I don't want to ruin the entire end of this story yet, but a CIA agent who was involved in, like, the implementation of this technology and it being brought in...
► 01:09:51
Jack Ryan.
► 01:09:52
He requested anonymity, but he was quoted later as talking about the meeting where they learned about this information as being...
► 01:09:59
This is so embarrassing.
► 01:10:00
Yeah.
► 01:10:03
He tried to fight against it, but there was no use.
► 01:10:05
It was implemented.
► 01:10:06
That's the saddest thing.
► 01:10:08
Hold on.
► 01:10:08
I'll just spell out the rest of this story now, because why not?
► 01:10:11
This is why it's so hard to believe in any conspiracy theory, is when you find out this shit, you're like, there's no way they could have killed JFK.
► 01:10:19
These people might be fucking stupid.
► 01:10:22
Such incompetence.
► 01:10:22
Has anybody considered that everybody in the CIA is actually fucking a moron?
► 01:10:27
Well, not this guy who said it was embarrassing.
► 01:10:29
Not fucking a moron.
► 01:10:29
They are a moron.
► 01:10:31
But when you have a conclusion that you want to arrive at and someone gives you, like...
► 01:10:37
Confirmation bias.
► 01:10:38
Plausible version of your conclusion.
► 01:10:40
Why wouldn't you jump along with it?
► 01:10:42
Like 9-11 was an inside job.
► 01:10:43
Right.
► 01:10:43
So, this guy, his software, Dennis Montgomery, his software is implemented and it's used to make terror predictions.
► 01:10:51
Is it?
► 01:10:52
A little bit.
► 01:10:52
Hold on.
► 01:10:53
What does it even look like?
► 01:10:55
Okay, so this is 2003 level software, right?
► 01:10:58
So he puts it in, and this is back when you had to use 3x5 floppies.
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No, not in 2003.
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What were we using?
► 01:11:05
CDs, probably.
► 01:11:06
Okay, CDs.
► 01:11:07
That was my Encarta period.
► 01:11:10
I bet there were flash drives back then, too.
► 01:11:13
Maybe rudimentary flash drives.
► 01:11:15
Maybe.
► 01:11:15
Let's go with CDs, right?
► 01:11:17
Sure.
► 01:11:17
So, we're using, let's call it Windows 2000.
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No, it was 2003.
► 01:11:24
Windows 2003.
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Well, whatever.
► 01:11:27
Well, it's Montgomery.
► 01:11:29
Let's call it Windows 95. We're using this nonsense.
► 01:11:32
I don't know if it's like MLB The Show.
► 01:11:34
I don't know if there's a new one ever here.
► 01:11:37
It's like mad.
► 01:11:38
Build your case.
► 01:11:39
Okay, so we're using base Windows, our first GUIs, and this guy puts in a CD that analyzes barcodes on Al Jazeera, right?
► 01:11:53
Yeah.
► 01:11:53
So that means he's...
► 01:11:54
What?
► 01:11:55
Watching Al Jazeera?
► 01:11:57
He's got screenshots of Al Jazeera.
► 01:11:59
It takes him five minutes to download each picture of Al Jazeera.
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And you pull up a command prompt and it looks at it like...
► 01:12:06
Does one of those, like, beep, beep, beep, beep, beep.
► 01:12:08
This software had to have been the exact same level of technology as where in the world is Carmen Sandiego.
► 01:12:14
Without Rockapella.
► 01:12:15
Yeah, exactly.
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That is, there's no possible way, that was even real software.
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It's fascinating.
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That was a random number generator.
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It's fascinating.
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That's what he made.
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Well, here's what happened.
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All right.
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A little bit down the line.
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French intelligence and the CIA did a little bit of looking into his software, and they realized that Dennis Montgomery was just making shit up.
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I knew it!
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Yep.
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And...
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I know about computers.
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Not only that, these barcodes on Al Jazeera didn't exist.
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Where would you put bar...
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He just made even that part up about it.
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So the FBI did...
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All right, so this dude is a con man of ridiculous talents.
► 01:12:52
The FBI did a counter-investigation into Dennis Montgomery and found that he had a, quote, long history of fraud.
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And he hadn't...
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Of course he did!
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Of course he did!
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He had an extensive gambling problem with deep debts.
► 01:13:07
A CIA agent, like I said, was quoted as saying that the whole thing was, quote, very embarrassing.
► 01:13:12
His former lawyer...
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Who represented him at that time.
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Actually, his name is Michael J. Flynn, which is weird because that's Mike Flynn's son's name.
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It's not the same guy as far as I can tell.
► 01:13:23
Well, that's also Michael J. Fox's first two names.
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That's true.
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I think we can rule out Michael J. Fox.
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There's a lot of coincidences.
► 01:13:30
Although he was basically this character in The Secret of My Success, right?
► 01:13:34
I think so, yeah.
► 01:13:35
So his former lawyer described Dennis Montgomery as, quote, a con artist and, quote, a habitual liar engaged in fraud.
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That's a guy who defended him.
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Good for him.
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Yeah, so that's the guy.
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That's the guy.
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Somehow, like...
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I thought he was evil before, but once you find out he's a con man, then I just get, like, catch me if you can memories in my head where I'm like, I'm rooting for him.
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I hope he continues to con the authorities.
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Boy, I'm not.
► 01:14:04
Why isn't there a movie where everybody, like, there are too many movies where our Secret Service and our CIAs and our intelligence community is competent when there's so many more stories where they're...
► 01:14:15
Idiots.
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Right, right.
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Can we have more CIA people that are stupid?
► 01:14:20
That disserves our public interest, though.
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We like to create and maintain the image that everyone's super competent.
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Because it keeps us feeling safe.
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I would feel a lot better if I knew they were stupid.
► 01:14:30
Jordan, would you like to hear more about Dennis Montgomery?
► 01:14:32
No!
► 01:14:34
I have one really great...
► 01:14:35
Do I have a choice?
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Yes.
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You don't.
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Yes, you don't.
► 01:14:39
So, in 2006, there was a governor's race.
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There was a gubernatorial race, and in it, Montgomery accused candidate Jim Gibbons, this is in Nevada, he accused Jim Gibbons of bribery.
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He claimed that his own business, Etrepid Technologies, had given him casino chips and $100,000 in cash in exchange for favors.
► 01:15:00
So wait, he just said that he committed bribery?
► 01:15:03
Yep.
► 01:15:04
That was his, like...
► 01:15:06
Here's what I did.
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I'm going to blow the lid off this thing.
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I committed a crime!
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You're corrupt, and I know it because I was the other end of it.
► 01:15:13
Exactly!
► 01:15:14
That's a bad strategy.
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It's not great.
► 01:15:16
Did he even ask for immunity beforehand, or did he just call a press conference?
► 01:15:20
It's unclear.
► 01:15:21
So he claimed that they gave him all of this money in exchange for favors, right?
► 01:15:27
So Montgomery claimed that he had emails from Gibbon's private email.
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Which, as we know, Montgomery does not know how to email.
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But that proved that he was not lying about the situation.
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Gibbon said that the emails were fake and had been created by Montgomery.
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In court, a computer expert testified that he must challenge the authenticity of the emails.
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Yeah.
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The court case was thrown out.
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An 18-month FBI investigation concluded that Gibbons did nothing wrong and cleared him of all charges.
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18 months.
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See, our intelligence community is actually dumb.
► 01:16:03
They're thorough, though.
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Yeah, sure.
► 01:16:05
A U.S. House Ethics Committee investigated the charges as well and found no wrongdoing.
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Now, why is this case super important?
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Because it established Dennis Montgomery is a liar, an idiot, a con man.
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And willing to falsify documents.
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Super willing.
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There is an indication that was borne out in court that he has...
► 01:16:27
Fraudulently created documents.
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And so now we're citing his documents on the Alex Jones show.
► 01:16:31
Now further...
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For different shit.
► 01:16:34
Now further, the other case where he created this fake software and was shown to be a hoax gives...
► 01:16:39
And the FBI investigation showing that he has a history of fraud.
► 01:16:42
Right.
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All of this shows that he is a complete liar, he has no credibility, and in court has been shown to create false documents.
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And he probably committed some crimes.
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Probably.
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Shouldn't...
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No, you commit a crime.
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If you accuse that dude...
► 01:16:55
Of committing a crime that you then say, I also committed.
► 01:17:01
Yeah.
► 01:17:01
Isn't that a crime?
► 01:17:02
Sure, but it turns out in court that crime didn't happen, so Montgomery's off the hook for bribery.
► 01:17:08
Because he didn't do it.
► 01:17:09
Because he didn't bribe him, but he committed fraud or libel?
► 01:17:13
He should be in prison for making false statements.
► 01:17:15
Yeah.
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But I don't know how he's not.
► 01:17:17
It's insane.
► 01:17:18
No, it's at least perjury.
► 01:17:19
If there was actually a trial, he would have had to testify that.
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And if he had testified that, then that would be perjury.
► 01:17:26
He would have perjured himself under oath.
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Maybe he pleaded the fifth.
► 01:17:29
Unless when he went to trial, he just said he didn't do any of that.
► 01:17:33
He could have made these claims and a court case is initiated and then he never said anything under oath.
► 01:17:40
He could have done that.
► 01:17:40
Exactly.
► 01:17:41
That's what he had to have done.
► 01:17:43
Probably.
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Because, of course, if he had, then he would have committed a crime and he would be in jail.
► 01:17:47
Yeah.
► 01:17:47
So this is the guy who's the root of these...
► 01:17:50
allegations and this fake database that Alex Jones is citing as evidence of himself and Trump being spied upon.
► 01:18:00
Right.
► 01:18:00
It's clear at this point that that is not true.
► 01:18:04
It's absolutely not true.
► 01:18:06
You have kicked more ass.
► 01:18:09
On that story than anyone has ever kicked.
► 01:18:12
I promise you, it's not done.
► 01:18:14
That's an expose that you just did that no one will really ever hear.
► 01:18:20
And no one cares.
► 01:18:22
But you know what?
► 01:18:23
The reason they're complaining about how the FBI is making no moves on this stuff and there's a media blackout.
► 01:18:30
But what we're talking about now is why there's a media blackout.
► 01:18:33
Because no one gives a shit.
► 01:18:34
This guy has no credibility.
► 01:18:36
Like, what was the...
► 01:18:37
Yeah, you just kicked it.
► 01:18:39
You just kicked the ass.
► 01:18:40
You kicked all the ass on this story.
► 01:18:42
Again, it's not done.
► 01:18:43
We still have to get to Larry Klayman.
► 01:18:45
Yeah, but seriously.
► 01:18:47
Listen.
► 01:18:47
This is amazing.
► 01:18:48
This next clip is...
► 01:18:51
So, we're still in the Zulo interview.
► 01:18:53
And Jerome Corsi, who has been silently a part of this the whole time, butts in.
► 01:18:58
to try and vouch for the situation that's going on.
► 01:19:02
Jerome Corsi's kicking in.
► 01:19:03
And I want to play this clip just as another side argument I want to make right after.
► 01:19:09
I want to say, look, I've worked with Mike now since 2011.
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We've worked together.
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And I want to say that Mike's as honest as they come.
► 01:19:20
He does not want to be doing this.
► 01:19:23
I mean, we've been working on this for days and actually a couple of weeks.
► 01:19:27
And Mike...
► 01:19:28
It's like pulling teeth.
► 01:19:30
He has other things to do.
► 01:19:32
He's not even in the sheriff's office anymore.
► 01:19:34
He's a used car dealer.
► 01:19:36
He's a life to lead and a family to take care of.
► 01:19:39
He doesn't need to be doing this.
► 01:19:41
And it takes great courage for him to do it.
► 01:19:44
I'm telling you, Mike speaks the truth.
► 01:19:47
It's carefully put together.
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He's not going to tell you something is so...
► 01:19:50
Sure, the audience knows that.
► 01:19:52
Here's why I played that clip.
► 01:19:54
He's desperately trying to provide credibility for Mike Zulo.
► 01:19:59
Right.
► 01:20:00
But he doesn't realize that if you look at the history of Jerome Corsi, that's a liar vouching for your credibility, which actually hurts you.
► 01:20:08
Because Jerome Corsi, as we've laid out in the past, has written a book about Obama's birth certificate being fake.
► 01:20:16
Yes.
► 01:20:16
He was also a member of the Swift Boat Veterans.
► 01:20:20
The Swift Boating!
► 01:20:20
Yeah, so he is that.
► 01:20:22
So when he comes in and says, this guy is honest as the day is long, to me that means, oh, we just both have the same propaganda goals.
► 01:20:30
That's all he's saying.
► 01:20:31
Anyway, we're gonna get to- That's him looking and being like, dude, I love this guy's lies!
► 01:20:36
We have one more clip- This guy's lies are so good!
► 01:20:39
We have one more clip of Mike Zullo, again, spelling out very clearly and very overtly that he doesn't know anything.
► 01:20:47
There's no information that he has, and in this clip, he even lets slip that he can't even confirm that anybody was ever wiretapped, which is kind of unfortunate for the outrageous claims he's trying to make.
► 01:21:00
Well, on Sheriff Arpaio's account, if the timeline, and I'm going by memory, so I'm not going to give you dates, but my understanding is this alleged wiretapping, and you have to understand, I have to say alleged because we can't verify it, but the alleged wiretapping...
► 01:21:16
Just like you see a duck swimming around a pond, but you haven't gotten it for DNA testing, you can't say that's a duck.
► 01:21:21
It looks like a mallard has a green head, it's got...
► 01:21:24
It's got orange seed.
► 01:21:25
It's eating moss off the bottom.
► 01:21:26
It's swimming around.
► 01:21:27
Tell us more about what a deck is like.
► 01:21:30
And this is when they were pursuing Sheriff Arpaio under a criminal charge.
► 01:21:35
That criminal case was dropped.
► 01:21:39
And at the same time, the individuals that were propelling that case moved over to a private law firm.
► 01:21:46
And then out of the clear blue, a civil proceeding ensued.
► 01:21:51
This is talking about Covington and Burling.
► 01:21:53
Again, this is basically what we covered earlier.
► 01:21:57
Code factories.
► 01:21:58
But also, let's be clear.
► 01:22:00
Alex is trying to say that if you don't have DNA testing, you can't prove it's a duck.
► 01:22:04
The expression is, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's a duck.
► 01:22:08
So he's going the other direction with a duck metaphor, which I think is fascinating.
► 01:22:13
I love it.
► 01:22:14
But also, again...
► 01:22:14
I love his...
► 01:22:16
I love the idea that he walks around with his son in the middle of a forest being like...
► 01:22:21
Hey, that's a deer.
► 01:22:22
Hold on one second.
► 01:22:24
We're going to need a blood sample.
► 01:22:25
Hey, son, fucking prove it.
► 01:22:27
Yeah.
► 01:22:28
Prove that's a duck, you son of a bitch.
► 01:22:30
I caught a trout.
► 01:22:30
Fuck you.
► 01:22:32
And also it shows that Alex Jones has a higher standard of proof about what is a duck than anything else he talks about on his show.
► 01:22:38
It's like his standard of evidence is glaring.
► 01:22:42
So we're going to leave Mike Zulo now.
► 01:22:44
That has been...
► 01:22:48
I don't necessarily have a ton against Mike Zullo, except to say that I found evidence in an article.
► 01:22:56
He's part of the Joe Arpaio thing.
► 01:22:57
I hope he gets hit by a truck.
► 01:22:59
Sure, that's enough.
► 01:23:00
Done and done.
► 01:23:01
Sold!
► 01:23:01
From the Phoenix New Times, I did find an article about the case against Arpaio, and it's interesting that Mike Zullo was called to testify, and he...
► 01:23:11
Invoked the Fifth Amendment.
► 01:23:12
What a shocker.
► 01:23:13
He pleaded the Fifth against self-incrimination in court, which means...
► 01:23:17
I mean, you're not always guilty when you plead the Fifth, but in this case, it does seem to imply if he wants to go out there publicly and talk about how there's a railroading case being done, it seems to imply if you're in court, you'd want to provide the evidence and go over this.
► 01:23:33
If you plead the Fifth, it kind of means that you're afraid of what might come out.
► 01:23:36
I would argue oppositely.
► 01:23:38
My advice to anyone who is under any kind of trial, do not say a goddamn word.
► 01:23:44
I agree with that.
► 01:23:45
That's my advice.
► 01:23:46
Now, whether or not he's guilty, he's guilty.
► 01:23:49
And whether or not he should be in jail, he should be.
► 01:23:52
And all of those things, that's fine.
► 01:23:54
But I do think it is smart to not say a goddamn thing to the cops.
► 01:23:58
Ladies and gentlemen, if there's one thing I can tell you...
► 01:24:02
Don't snitch.
► 01:24:03
No snitching.
► 01:24:05
So at this point, we transition our investigation and we go to how Alex ended the week.
► 01:24:11
He had this gentleman who's come up a couple times, Larry Clayman, as a guest on the Friday episode of the show.
► 01:24:17
Meanwhile, throughout the week, he was yelling about this evidence and how it proved everything that he's been saying is correct this whole time.
► 01:24:24
They have a database that has me and Trump in it.
► 01:24:28
So now he has Larry Klayman as a guest.
► 01:24:30
Here is the introduction of how he brings him into the show.
► 01:24:34
And the world's greatest claymation artist of the world, Larry the Klayman!
► 01:24:43
Exposing there is spying going on against the president and against Congress.
► 01:24:46
It's been in the news for years.
► 01:24:47
The CIA spying on the Senate Intelligence Committee.
► 01:24:51
Now they've come out and Congressman Nunes has said, no, I've talked to the experts, and a little bird told me one of the experts might be joining us on air, but I'm going to leave it at that.
► 01:24:59
Here, Ian, just a moment, Larry Klayman, legendary Larry Klayman.
► 01:25:03
Yeah, but was the bird a duck?
► 01:25:05
We can't prove it without DNA testing.
► 01:25:06
We can't prove what little bird it was.
► 01:25:08
But here's where we get into where this is extra murky.
► 01:25:11
Could have been a swan.
► 01:25:12
When Devin Nunes presented this new evidence.
► 01:25:17
That he got from Trump.
► 01:25:18
No, he didn't.
► 01:25:19
Oh, he didn't.
► 01:25:20
He got it from Larry Klayman.
► 01:25:21
Larry Klayman?
► 01:25:23
That's what Alex just said.
► 01:25:24
And in this interview, Larry Klayman says as much.
► 01:25:27
Do we have any evidence that Larry Klayman would have talked to him at all?
► 01:25:31
Only based on Larry's word and speculation on this episode.
► 01:25:36
But I do believe it in some ways.
► 01:25:38
Because the history does bear out.
► 01:25:39
There is...
► 01:25:40
Look, I can't prove that these liars aren't always lying.
► 01:25:45
But...
► 01:25:50
Oh, only.
► 01:25:51
If only.
► 01:25:52
But based on Larry Klayman's telling of it, he had been trying to get this information to Devin Nunez for quite a while and succeeded recently.
► 01:25:59
So, all of this stuff where Trump feels like he's been...
► 01:26:04
I sent him a fax.
► 01:26:05
I wrote it on the back of that fax.
► 01:26:07
On typewriter.
► 01:26:08
I typewrote a fax.
► 01:26:10
I threw a paper airplane in the direction of D.C. I have been doing everything I can to get this information to Nunes.
► 01:26:17
Again, that's Montgomery, not Clayman.
► 01:26:20
Yes, but as we can establish, those are the only forms of communication that Alex Jones and his ilk respect.
► 01:26:26
One thing that's important to lay out here is that Larry Clayman is Dennis Montgomery's lawyer now.
► 01:26:32
The former lawyer called him a con artist habitually engaged in fraud.
► 01:26:37
Yes.
► 01:26:37
Now, Larry Clayman is his lawyer.
► 01:26:40
The two of them met through Joe Arpaio when Joe Arpaio was being represented by Larry Klayman and Dennis Montgomery was the confidential informant.
► 01:26:51
So we're having a wonderful romantic comedy right now.
► 01:26:54
This is the meet cue.
► 01:26:55
This is what this is.
► 01:26:57
They meet each other right next to a water fountain.
► 01:27:01
Accidentally bump into each other.
► 01:27:04
Turns into a love triangle.
► 01:27:05
We take a slight break from all of this information that we've been laying out.
► 01:27:11
In Larry Klayman's introduction, Alex Jones realizes that you've got to pay the bills.
► 01:27:16
Now we've got Larry Klayman on, who's just had so many victories against globalists.
► 01:27:20
Won the big case against the NSA to help expose the stuff that was going on years ago.
► 01:27:23
The only case out there where we've had a victory.
► 01:27:25
We're going to be talking to him in just a moment.
► 01:27:27
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If you don't buy the products, first off, you're crazy.
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It's the biggest manufacturer in the country.
► 01:27:47
Who never gave me enough love.
► 01:27:48
It's somebody of Maine's.
► 01:27:50
We can't contractually tell you who's our private labeling, but this is as iodine, loyal silver added to it.
► 01:27:55
So, right there, I think he might have just breached his contract.
► 01:27:58
I mean, that's not fair to Tom's of Maine.
► 01:28:03
The contract says you can't say who made it.
► 01:28:06
Yeah, exactly!
► 01:28:06
He just did.
► 01:28:08
We're not contractually allowed to say that it was Tom's of Maine who made it.
► 01:28:11
Oh, shit!
► 01:28:12
God damn it!
► 01:28:13
Whoops, I fucked up there.
► 01:28:14
So, I mean, I don't know.
► 01:28:16
I mean, Maine's of Tom.
► 01:28:16
I've not reviewed their contract, so I certainly don't know.
► 01:28:20
I'm sure it's online.
► 01:28:21
So, here we go.
► 01:28:23
Alex Jones now gets into the full-on bio of Larry Klayman, and I'll be back in a moment.
► 01:28:31
So Larry Klayman joins us, went over his whole bio.
► 01:28:34
It would take too long, but everybody knows who Larry Klayman is.
► 01:28:38
No one knows who Larry Klayman is.
► 01:28:40
He is a duck.
► 01:28:41
No one knows who Larry Klayman is, and he doesn't go over his bio, so I will.
► 01:28:46
Would you like to know some fun facts about Larry Klayman?
► 01:28:50
Yeah, sure.
► 01:28:51
Following Clayman's behavior in a 1992 trial in California federal court, Judge William Keller barred Clayman from his courtroom for life.
► 01:29:03
Hold on.
► 01:29:04
Is it a Chuck E. Cheese?
► 01:29:06
What is happening?
► 01:29:07
Hold on.
► 01:29:08
Five years later, in a separate case in New York, Clayman's behavior led then-district judge Dennis Chin, I'm sorry, Denny Chin, to issue a lifetime ban on the attorney practicing law before him.
► 01:29:19
Well, Denny Chin sounds like he's in the mafia, though.
► 01:29:21
Two judges.
► 01:29:22
Hey, it's Denny Chin!
► 01:29:23
He's over here!
► 01:29:24
Two federal judges have barred him from practicing law in front of him for life.
► 01:29:30
Klayman has written about his dealings with- Can you even do that?
► 01:29:33
Yeah, you can.
► 01:29:34
Is that a thing you can just do?
► 01:29:35
You can.
► 01:29:36
If you're a judge, you can just be like, nope!
► 01:29:39
Never again!
► 01:29:39
It's essentially an extreme version of holding someone in contempt.
► 01:29:42
You can, absolutely.
► 01:29:43
Do you at least get to say he's out of order first?
► 01:29:46
Of course, you bang the gavel.
► 01:29:48
Oh, you have to, yeah.
► 01:29:48
So Klayman has written about his dealings with Keller and Chin, claiming that Keller acted, quote, erratic, and was, quote, obviously drunk at the bench.
► 01:29:59
I don't believe you.
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That's awesome.
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I don't believe you.
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That's the best way.
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In 2007, Clayman received a $25,000 retainer from a Daytona Beach woman facing criminal charges, and she accused him of not providing legal services in return.
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The Florida Bar Association mediated the matter, and Clayman agreed to pay off a small portion within 90 days.
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But after that deadline- Did he pay off that 90 days?
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After that deadline passed, he didn't pay, he was reprimanded by the association.
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That was it?
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Yep.
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They were just like, hey, hey!
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Dude.
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Stop it.
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Bro.
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No, you don't have to pay her, but come on!
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He has filed at least 18 lawsuits against the Clintons, raging from accusations of racketeering to a bunch of shit about Benghazi.
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Okay.
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In the wake of the 2016 shooting of a Dallas police officer, or multiple police officers, excuse me, Clayman filed a lawsuit against Obama, former U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder, the Nation of Islam's leader Louis Farrakhan, Al Sharpton...
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Wait.
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And some founders of Black Lives Matter movement alleging they had, quote, incited a race war that led to the shooting.
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Clayman amended the complaint to include Dallas police officer, who was shot, as the plaintiff, and Hillary Clinton and George Soros as defendants.
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And funnily enough, I mean, this is super weird, but I'm reading off your screen, former San Antonio Spurs star Tim Duncan.
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I don't know how he got in there, but he is part of the conspiracy.
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I think Clayman just wanted to meet him.
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He wanted to autograph him.
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Yeah.
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It's implied that case was dismissed.
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Oh, it was?
► 01:31:31
Who would have guessed?
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I'm going to list off a lot of cases, and all of them have been dismissed.
► 01:31:36
All of them have been dismissed?
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Yeah.
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Can you just keep doing that?
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Yeah, apparently.
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Like, nobody's going to stop you?
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Apparently.
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It takes a lot to get disbarred.
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What even is being a lawyer, if you can just do that?
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Does he have...
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Is anybody paying him for this?
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Also, James Carville, the raging Cajun, called him like a jackass or something like that.
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Well, yeah.
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Somebody had to.
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In 1998, Clayman sued his mother for $50,000.
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Did he win?
► 01:32:02
Seeking reimbursement for medical care provided to his maternal grandmother.
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After Clayman's brother told Newsweek magazine of the lawsuit, Clayman alleged that the Clinton White House was responsible for the magazine acquiring the information.
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Nope, it was your brother.
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That's a stretch.
► 01:32:19
That's a stretch.
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He was unsuccessful.
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So he's just an insane person.
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In October 2014, Clayman sued the Obama administration, claiming it secretly allowed the Ebola virus to enter the United States.
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No, that one I believe.
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So it could be used against Americans of the, quote, Caucasian race and Jewish Christian religion.
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Can't imagine any other possible explanation.
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I think he's right on with that one.
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In 2010, he sued to try and block the, quote, Ground Zero mosque.
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He was involved in that.
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Love those lies.
► 01:32:50
In February 2015, Clayman filed a defamation suit on behalf of Dennis Montgomery, who we discussed.
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So is he just like a divorce lawyer?
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What does he do during the day?
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I think he's a media whore.
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Well, yeah, but I mean, he's gotta have a...
► 01:33:04
He is a legit lawyer.
► 01:33:05
Yeah, I know, but what does he do?
► 01:33:07
He's probably a sleazy lawyer who...
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I don't know.
► 01:33:09
Who knows?
► 01:33:10
Listen.
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Is he an ambulance chaser?
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Is he like, okay, I'm going to sue Obama, but right after I get you this settlement on your car crash, listen, show up in a cast.
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I mean, probably.
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I wouldn't be surprised if he's a better call Saul type of guy.
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Yeah, I bet he's pretty great at it, too.
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He's an inveterate liar, and he's super good at that.
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So here's where he dovetails a little bit with Dennis Montgomery.
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He filed a defamation lawsuit on behalf of Dennis Montgomery against...
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any price, greed, power, and the endless war.
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The lawsuit alleged that Ryzen falsely described Montgomery as, quote, the maestro behind what many current and former U.S. officials believe was the most elaborate and dangerous hoaxes in American history.
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This is that software we discussed earlier that alleged to be able to predict terrorist attacks that was based on nothing.
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That's such a solid bullshitting.
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But Dennis Montgomery...
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How do you get to be that good of a con man that you can just make that shit up?
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I don't know.
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And it couldn't have even looked...
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That's the thing about computers.
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I don't think he would possibly have been able to show the software to anybody.
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He wrote a fake software thing, but because people don't have that computer savvy, they're willing to be taken in by it.
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Yep.
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They're just like, oh, this is why we can't have old people in power anymore.
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They don't even...
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We can't do it.
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Nope.
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They don't even live in the world we live in anymore, right?
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They're unaware.
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The DNC hacking was not some sort of complicated movie hacking.
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It was Podesta clicked on a fucking link.
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That's all it was.
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There's no real hacking going on like what people think it is.
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It's just these guys are idiots.
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The hack itself was the least sophisticated part of it.
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The bot farms and stuff like that is far more complicated.
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That's amazing.
► 01:34:58
That's really good stuff.
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But again, all of this...
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Because the people that we have in power are old and out of touch and pointless.
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Sure.
► 01:35:06
Let me get through Larry Clayman's bio here, because Alex refuses to get through the bio.
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Oh, we're still there?
► 01:35:10
There's more.
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Well, you know what?
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Alex was right in saying that he did not have time to get through that bio.
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No, he didn't.
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We do.
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Yeah.
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So, Clayman, on behalf of Dennis Montgomery, files this lawsuit of defamation.
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Yeah.
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In 2016, in July, a federal court dismissed that lawsuit.
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Right.
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It was appealed, as I understand, and that appeal was denied.
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That's kind of like, I believe, Marie Le Pen, the French prime ministerial candidate.
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The fascist lawsuit?
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Yeah, she is legally a fascist, according to the law.
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You can and will call her a fascist.
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That's a great lawsuit.
► 01:35:53
There's two sides of that lawsuit.
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One part of it is that she is legally a fascist.
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But then the other side of it is that one of the judge's findings was that you can't consider it defamation when you're in a political sphere.
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Just describing someone's political beliefs isn't defamation if there is...
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Credibility to her.
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All I want to hear is that in a court of law, she is a fascist.
► 01:36:19
Larry Klayman filed at least three lawsuits claiming that Obama was not eligible to be president because his birth certificate was fake.
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Okay.
► 01:36:27
He tried to defend Cliven Bundy as his lawyer.
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Good work.
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As we all know, Cliven Bundy is a crazy person.
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Yep.
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As is Larry Klayman.
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He tried to be...
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As is...
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Montgomery?
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He tried to be Cliven Bundy's lawyer, but the judge ruled that Clayman had been dishonest about his history of being censured and disciplined by past courts, and he had no clearance or standing to assign himself as someone else's lawyer.
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So he was...
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So one, that means Cliven Bundy did not want his help at all.
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Probably not.
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And two, I would actually go the opposite direction where the judge was like...
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Jesus, man, you said you have been censured more than you actually have.
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Why are you claiming to have been censured by 20 judges?
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It was just a couple.
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I'm a victim.
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Yeah, exactly.
► 01:37:15
On October 13th, 2013, during the U.S. government shutdown, Clayman declared at a conservative rally in Washington, D.C. that, quote, This president is not a president of we the people.
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He's a president of his people.
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Whoops.
► 01:37:29
That's probably racially charged.
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racist.
► 01:37:33
He urged the crowd to begin a, quote, second American nonviolent revolution and demanded that President Obama, quote, put the Koran down and figuratively come out with his Weeks later...
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Hey!
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Put the Koran down and get some chicken in you.
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Jesus Christ, you need to eat.
► 01:37:53
Weeks later, Klayman sponsored a, quote, Reclaim America rally in Lafayette Square across from the White House, calling for the president's removal.
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Klayman stated that if Obama did...
► 01:38:03
When was the first American non-violent revolution?
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I can't think of one.
► 01:38:06
I think we've had a lot more of the non-violent revolutions.
► 01:38:12
Klayman stated that if Obama did not resign, conservative activists would meet to establish a, quote, shadow government.
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Whoops!
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Bad use of terms.
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Considering that now all they talk about is how there's a shadow government.
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He's threatening to create one.
► 01:38:26
Yeah!
► 01:38:26
Anyway.
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I would like to see him try.
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I want to get invited to those meetings.
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Clayman had encouraged, quote, millions to occupy Washington, D.C., but reported attendance to his rally was between 130 and 200 people.
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So, not great.
► 01:38:41
Also...
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They're going to talk about this, and Alex already referenced it a little bit.
► 01:38:47
He won a court case about...
► 01:38:49
So we're talking about his win.
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We're not talking about his many and varied and magnificent losses.
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Yes.
► 01:38:55
We're going to talk about his win.
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Yes.
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Okay, good.
► 01:38:57
He had a court case called Clayman v.
► 01:39:00
Obama, where he was trying to contest the legality of bulk collection of phone and internet metadata.
► 01:39:07
Good!
► 01:39:07
That's a good one.
► 01:39:08
We can agree that a lot of that shit is dubious.
► 01:39:12
Like, a lot of that stuff is pretty fucked up.
► 01:39:15
A lot of it is illegal.
► 01:39:16
It's pretty fucked up.
► 01:39:17
A lot of it is horrifying and a police state and so on and so forth.
► 01:39:20
So he brought this case in front of a judge.
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Right.
► 01:39:23
And the judge...
► 01:39:24
And the judge did not laugh at him?
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Here come the judge.
► 01:39:27
Did the judge not fucking Google him?
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This is why we can't have old people.
► 01:39:31
If you're a judge and you Google this fucking guy, wouldn't you just be like, no, get it, go, go.
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Go!
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Go!
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And then you would be...
► 01:39:40
The judge would have a broom and just like shoo him out of the courtroom, right?
► 01:39:45
Like it's the Apollo?
► 01:39:46
If you can Google, that's what you should do.
► 01:39:48
So it was in 2013, and U.S. federal judge Richard J. Leon, he ruled that bulk collection of American telephone metadata likely violates the Constitution.
► 01:40:00
Agreed.
► 01:40:00
He had insanely legitimate concerns about how...
► 01:40:06
This program could violate people's Fourth Amendment rights against unreasonable search and seizure.
► 01:40:11
And it does, and it should be stopped.
► 01:40:13
Right.
► 01:40:14
And it was.
► 01:40:14
Well, yeah.
► 01:40:16
Or publicly it was stopped.
► 01:40:17
Right.
► 01:40:17
And that actually comes into the ruling.
► 01:40:19
Yeah.
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Because it was ended before this case.
► 01:40:22
Way before that.
► 01:40:22
But, so he rules in favor of Clayman and the guy whose last name is Strange, which is kind of fun.
► 01:40:31
They were the two defendants, or plaintiffs.
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I can't remember.
► 01:40:35
And the original trial was held in the Astroplane.
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Yes.
► 01:40:38
Yeah.
► 01:40:38
That makes sense.
► 01:40:39
So they brought this case, and the judge agreed with the arguments that metadata collection violates the Fourth Amendment.
► 01:40:46
Bulk metadata.
► 01:40:47
But what he did in his ruling was to say, I suspend my judgment for six months to allow the government to appeal.
► 01:40:55
Because the government is going to appeal this.
► 01:40:57
Yeah.
► 01:40:57
So in his ruling, he said that he made an injunction that any metadata collection regarding Strange or Clayman had to stop, and every bit of information that had been collected about them had to be destroyed, but he stayed his ruling for six months, allowing So what he means is that during that six months, they can still collect their metadata.
► 01:41:21
No.
► 01:41:23
Maybe.
► 01:41:24
No, if he's suspending his ruling, that means that nothing has to change for the next six months.
► 01:41:28
If the government doesn't respond, then the ruling stands.
► 01:41:31
Exactly.
► 01:41:31
Well, the government did respond.
► 01:41:33
What a shocker.
► 01:41:34
And basically, the appeals court found that because the program had been ended, they didn't have a responsibility to rule on the legality of the Fourth Amendment claims.
► 01:41:46
Yes.
► 01:41:46
Secondarily, they found that there's no evidence that could be provided So, even though the government did collect bulk metadata because they couldn't prove their metadata was collected, they're kicked out.
► 01:42:10
And they can't represent the entirety of the American people.
► 01:42:14
Part of their argument was that they are Verizon customers and that the government had admitted that they collected Verizon metadata.
► 01:42:21
So, most likely their metadata was collected.
► 01:42:24
Hold on.
► 01:42:24
The government admitted that they collected business data through Verizon.
► 01:42:29
Like, Verizon business customers.
► 01:42:31
Not individual UNI cell phone owners.
► 01:42:35
They collected things through a different part of Verizon's business.
► 01:42:39
Now, I admit, this is dubious.
► 01:42:40
Yeah, I don't like that.
► 01:42:41
I don't like that defense at all.
► 01:42:43
I think it's sketchy as fuck.
► 01:42:44
But, I do think that based on the law, and based on...
► 01:42:49
Like, I'm telling you.
► 01:42:51
I read these court decisions.
► 01:42:53
Yeah, I know, because you're a lunatic.
► 01:42:54
And I don't think that the decisions were wrong.
► 01:42:58
I think the appeals court was right.
► 01:42:59
He didn't have the standing, but at the same time, the conclusion is correct, that metadata collection is an unreasonable search and seizure.
► 01:43:07
Yes.
► 01:43:07
So he was right.
► 01:43:09
And they probably stopped it.
► 01:43:10
Wink, wink.
► 01:43:11
Well, I think it has, in a lot of ways.
► 01:43:14
Yeah, I don't know.
► 01:43:15
I don't know.
► 01:43:15
Who cares?
► 01:43:16
I just don't trust him.
► 01:43:18
Based on all the information we can find, it has stopped.
► 01:43:21
Yes.
► 01:43:22
Based on what we're afraid is actually the truth, it hasn't.
► 01:43:25
Yeah.
► 01:43:26
So anyway, Larry Klayman is right on that count.
► 01:43:29
He had the right idea.
► 01:43:30
He's wrong about everything else.
► 01:43:32
Yep.
► 01:43:32
His claims that he beat the NSA in a court case is wrong.
► 01:43:36
He had a case where they agreed with him, or they were inclined to agree with him, suspended judgment, and then the appeals court shot it down.
► 01:43:43
Anyway.
► 01:43:45
Let's get into it.
► 01:43:46
Let's enjoy this.
► 01:43:47
You're so tired.
► 01:43:49
You're exhausting yourself.
► 01:43:50
I'm spent.
► 01:43:51
This is the most work I think any human being has ever done.
► 01:43:55
Yeah.
► 01:43:55
Here's where this next clip is where Larry Klayman...
► 01:43:58
I love sitting on this side of the table.
► 01:44:02
This clip, Larry Klayman tries to do a little bit of a dance where he has to be sure that he has not seen any of the information.
► 01:44:10
He's this guy's lawyer, but he hasn't seen any of it.
► 01:44:12
Okay.
► 01:44:13
We, on Sunday, via some other folks that work with us, published some things that have been out there in federal court showing that Trump was being surveilled.
► 01:44:21
Clayman is separate from that.
► 01:44:22
He's not involved in that.
► 01:44:23
He was involved, though, getting that CIA whistleblower basically to come forward.
► 01:44:27
And so he's been trying in the system for a long time to do this.
► 01:44:31
He's also the guy that has won against the Supreme Court.
► 01:44:34
So he's separate from that, but from a different angle.
► 01:44:36
Newsmax.com, he also has had his...
► 01:44:38
Articles and things published there.
► 01:44:40
I apologize.
► 01:44:41
That was Alex trying not to implicate himself and Larry in the dance.
► 01:44:48
So, you're right.
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I am exhausted.
► 01:44:50
It's been a long weekend.
► 01:44:52
Yeah.
► 01:44:52
So, here is Larry breaking down what he sees as Montgomery's case.
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Yes.
► 01:45:00
I've kind of prefaced things.
► 01:45:01
Correct where I'm wrong.
► 01:45:02
Whatever.
► 01:45:03
Just let's get into the meat and potatoes.
► 01:45:04
Of a classified case you're involved in that's dangerous to get into, but really is a Rosetta Stone or a Skeleton Key to so much.
► 01:45:13
Yes, this is important because Dennis Montgomery is really kind of the successor to Mr. Benny, who he just had on.
► 01:45:20
And I take my hat off to Mr. Benny as well.
► 01:45:22
I actually represented him for a while going back as a whistleblower.
► 01:45:27
He had Benny, the technical head of the NSA.
► 01:45:29
Oh, okay.
► 01:45:30
I got you.
► 01:45:31
As we know, he spouted a bunch of bullshit.
► 01:45:33
Also, on this episode, he had as a guest some guy whose nickname is Tonto Speranto.
► 01:45:41
I don't like any of those words you just said!
► 01:45:43
He's a guy who survived the Benghazi attack.
► 01:45:48
Tonto Speranto.
► 01:45:49
He's the hero of Benghazi.
► 01:45:51
And he was, you know what, he came off as fairly reasonable but also pretty aggressive.
► 01:45:57
And at the end of the interview he said like, hey, you know what, if people are afraid, like if they want to arrest George Soros and they're afraid, I'll do it.
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I'll go in, I'll do it.
► 01:46:07
So Alex later uses that as like...
► 01:46:11
He's like, hey, Tonto Speranto was on.
► 01:46:13
He said he's ready to arrest George Soros.
► 01:46:15
He's like, well, that's not quite what he said.
► 01:46:17
He just said, if you're afraid and we should arrest him, I'll go in and do it.
► 01:46:21
I'm a Marine.
► 01:46:23
And so he's like, he thinks that he should be arrested.
► 01:46:25
He's ready to go do it himself.
► 01:46:27
Is Tonto Speranto a real Marine?
► 01:46:30
Yeah, he survived Benghazi.
► 01:46:32
Do we know that?
► 01:46:33
I don't.
► 01:46:34
Why would he?
► 01:46:35
No, I do.
► 01:46:35
There's a movie about him.
► 01:46:36
Like, he's a real dude.
► 01:46:37
Oh, he's a real dude.
► 01:46:39
I can't remember his...
► 01:46:39
He survived Benghazi.
► 01:46:40
I can't remember...
► 01:46:41
And now he's going on Alex Jones' show?
► 01:46:43
I can't remember his first name, but he goes by Tonto.
► 01:46:45
Well, I'm against him.
► 01:46:47
I'll be honest, he seemed like a pretty decent dude as far as Alex Jones' guests go.
► 01:46:51
Yeah, but that's a low, low, low bar.
► 01:46:54
He has probably been kicked out of only one court and never allowed to be there.
► 01:46:58
And four Applebee's.
► 01:47:02
So, in this day, he's had Tonto on, he's had Richard Benny, William Benny, I can't remember his first name now, he's the technical head of the NSA.
► 01:47:11
It was mostly Muslim baiting stuff.
► 01:47:13
Yes.
► 01:47:13
And then now he has Larry Klayman on, so that's who he was referring to in that.
► 01:47:17
We've had a lot of guests recently.
► 01:47:19
He has to, man.
► 01:47:21
He's scrambling.
► 01:47:22
Yeah, wow.
► 01:47:23
He's scrambling.
► 01:47:24
Also, you can kind of hear it in his voice.
► 01:47:26
He doesn't have the fire.
► 01:47:27
He's losing it a little bit.
► 01:47:28
He doesn't have the heart.
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I don't know.
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Maybe next week will be different.
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You know, this week he started with the...
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At the end of the week that we're covering right now, which was last week when you're listening, he did his big Pizzagate apology.
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Maybe that could reinvigorate him a little bit.
► 01:47:43
We'll see.
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But anyway, here we go.
► 01:47:45
Back to Clayman.
► 01:47:46
But Dennis Montgomery was an NSA-CIA contractor, and he left the NSA and CIA with 47 hard drives.
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Over 600 million pages of information, much of it classified.
► 01:47:59
Again, the only evidence we can find of him being a contractor at all is creating that software that analyzes Al Jazeera.
► 01:48:08
It's questionable whether in that capacity he would have access at all to 47 hard drives or 600 million documents.
► 01:48:17
If he did have all those things...
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That's pretty crazy, and he must have been going way outside of his way in order to get those things, which, I mean, is massively illegal.
► 01:48:28
Yeah.
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But, I don't know.
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It's all the bad things.
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It's all the bad things.
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And so here we go.
► 01:48:34
This next clip is Larry Klayman coming in, much like Mike Zulo, and really trying hard to make sure that people don't think that he's seen the documents.
► 01:48:44
And I felt that we needed to take him to...
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Sources in government who could do something that could listen to what he had to say, because much of it's classified, I can't see it, and we needed to put it in the right hands.
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So I went to a federal judge by his name.
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Let's be clear, you had it, but you wouldn't look at it.
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I didn't look at it.
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He had it.
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He had the 47 hard drives I never took possession of.
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60 million pages.
► 01:49:06
600 million.
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He committed a crime.
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600 million pages.
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I didn't.
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And what he told me what was on there was that there was surveillance on the Chief Justice of the United States.
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Other justices, 156 judges, President Trump when he was a businessman, other prominent businessmen, and yours truly.
► 01:49:25
Oprah Winfrey.
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So let's take a second and take a step back.
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The only time that he could have possibly had access to NSA CIA documents is around the period of 2003.
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when he was involved and was massively discredited.
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Yeah.
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He was thrown out with prejudice.
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Yeah.
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The FBI did a counter-investigation on him and found to be a fraud.
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There's no way he would ever be able to get any sort of clear I'm listening.
► 01:50:01
Jazira Software was in fact a Trojan horse.
► 01:50:06
Interesting.
► 01:50:06
Have you considered this?
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Right?
► 01:50:08
So, like Captain...
► 01:50:12
Captain America.
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S.H.I.E.L.D.
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I'm listening.
► 01:50:17
Which is the other one?
► 01:50:18
The acronym?
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The Avengers?
► 01:50:20
No, no, no.
► 01:50:20
The bad guys.
► 01:50:22
HYDRA.
► 01:50:23
Cobra.
► 01:50:23
You're talking about G.I. Joe now.
► 01:50:25
HYDRA.
► 01:50:25
Okay.
► 01:50:27
From the very beginning.
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From the very beginning, because the Al Jazeera software was on there, Montgomery has pinpoint accurate information from every level of government because he is actually the guy who originated all of it.
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See, now Occam's razor tells me you're right.
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I don't like...
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Simplest explanation, obviously.
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Yeah, obviously that's the one.
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But the point is, he can't possibly have information stolen past that date.
► 01:51:02
In the early 2010s, he's working with Joe Arpaio, and he has this database of Maricopa County residents that are being victims of bank frauds, which is now being repurposed.
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including Trump, Alex Jones, all this shit.
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Well, before we even go any further, 600 million sounds so fucking made up.
► 01:51:25
Where do you get 600 million documents?
► 01:51:28
I don't know.
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Genuinely, what, what area of the government other than maybe that bulk metadata collection system would have anything close to 600 million anything?
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And even if it was the bulk metadata, that's not documents.
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That's just point by point, GPS location or that kind of shit.
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Yeah.
► 01:51:49
So where would you get 600 million documents?
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And it would be, like I said, from 14 years ago.
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Yeah, and I mean, like, is there even that much information in the fucking Library of Congress?
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Probably not.
► 01:52:03
Like, in the archives of all the stuff!
► 01:52:06
Yeah, I don't know.
► 01:52:07
600 million is amazing!
► 01:52:09
He might as well have said one kajillion.
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I have one kajillion documents.
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Might as well have.
► 01:52:13
Yeah, that's obvious bullshit.
► 01:52:15
And again, an important point is that Larry Klayman is coming out as a lawyer being on Alex Jones' program to discuss this stuff.
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Well, for legal reasons, he is coming on as a private citizen.
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But he only has secondary knowledge of.
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He has no idea what's actually in these documents.
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Because it's illegal for him to know what's on in the documents.
► 01:52:33
Exactly.
► 01:52:34
It's much like Roger Stone saying his doctor said he had polonium poisoning.
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They can't refute that.
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It's illegal for them to refute that.
► 01:52:43
Yeah.
► 01:52:44
It's these same games that are so...
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It's propaganda games.
► 01:52:47
Even then, right?
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You got 600 million documents.
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You're not going to take a look at one?
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Come on, man.
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I don't know.
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You got to take a look at one.
► 01:52:56
You got to get a taste of the Coke to make sure that it's real.
► 01:52:59
I'd be so scared.
► 01:53:00
Right?
► 01:53:00
I'd be...
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You don't...
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I'd probably run away.
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You do not.
► 01:53:04
Well, yeah, that's why you don't buy my drugs.
► 01:53:06
Dennis Montgomery comes up to me.
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I scream and run the other direction.
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I don't want any of these 47 hard drives.
► 01:53:12
As everybody knows, you take your Coke pinky nail, you put it into the Coke, you make sure that the Coke is high quality.
► 01:53:21
So, at this next clip.
► 01:53:22
Yeah.
► 01:53:23
This next clip is Clayman confirming that he did, in fact, discuss things with Devin Nunez.
► 01:53:31
Chairman Nunes last Monday said, come forward with information.
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And that's what we've done.
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And we've told them.
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I'm glad you said that because I have other sources.
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You're one of six sources Nunes has, including NSA, CIA.
► 01:53:43
You're an outside source that corroborated what he was already being told.
► 01:53:46
He obviously didn't know all this, but they stonewall in the agencies.
► 01:53:49
But now they have whistleblowers because it's the president.
► 01:53:51
They're lying about him, so they should do this.
► 01:53:53
Coming forward, and so now Nunes is thanks to you and others able to say this.
► 01:53:59
Either all of this is just fantasy world lies and all that, or there's a possibility that he did, in fact, talk to Nunez.
► 01:54:07
Which is even more terrifying.
► 01:54:09
And that's where he got a lot of this information that has led to this very confusing period in our history where Nunez is acting up and certainly not acting as the House Intelligence Committee chairman should.
► 01:54:22
No, he should be fucking destroyed.
► 01:54:24
And if he is acting, in fact, on this information that has its roots in someone who is a complete con man engaged in habitual fraud, like Dennis Montgomery.
► 01:54:37
Even then, Nunes himself came on again and said that documents show no indication of wiretap on Trump Tower.
► 01:54:44
So Nunes himself walked back all of this bullshit.
► 01:54:47
I think it's like a zigzag of Nunes being shook.
► 01:54:51
Because there was that thing that came out the other day about Flynn, the meetings that he had with the Turkish ambassador about extraditing this Gulen guy who Erdogan wants to be extradited because Erdogan believes that this cleric...
► 01:55:12
Was responsible for the fake coup.
► 01:55:16
We can't prove that the coup attempt was fake.
► 01:55:18
I'm pretty sure.
► 01:55:19
It was totally fake.
► 01:55:20
So he wants this guy extradited, and the United States does not believe it would be appropriate, and Flynn was being paid to help extradite this guy.
► 01:55:29
Right.
► 01:55:29
It came out that the meeting between Flynn and the Turkish ambassador was also attended by Devin Nunes.
► 01:55:36
He was also there.
► 01:55:38
Really?
► 01:55:39
Yes.
► 01:55:40
So, he might be complicit.
► 01:55:43
Because now we have information that maybe Flynn has turned state's evidence.
► 01:55:50
Yeah, at this point, on Sunday when we're recording this, it's still not sure.
► 01:55:54
Nobody's confirmed it.
► 01:55:55
Anything could come out any day, but there's indications and sources, anonymous sources are indicating that he might have cut a deal.
► 01:56:01
Which, again, I, you know.
► 01:56:03
Anonymous sources are anonymous sources.
► 01:56:05
Take it with a grain of salt.
► 01:56:07
Fucking Alex Jones has anonymous sources, so that doesn't mean anything.
► 01:56:10
No.
► 01:56:11
But the timeline kind of suggests that maybe this is a possibility.
► 01:56:14
Yeah.
► 01:56:15
It's possible.
► 01:56:16
It's not proven.
► 01:56:17
It's not definite.
► 01:56:18
And the hard part to...
► 01:56:19
The only part that's hard to swallow about him turning states' evidence is if you look at all of this shit, everybody would go down.
► 01:56:27
Yeah.
► 01:56:27
So either there's genuinely...
► 01:56:30
The entire government gets taken down from top to bottom.
► 01:56:34
Not everyone.
► 01:56:34
Not everyone, but like a shit ton of people in power.
► 01:56:38
A whole lot of the right.
► 01:56:38
Or it's not as big a deal as we think it is.
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Or it's somewhere in between.
► 01:56:43
It's hard to say.
► 01:56:44
I think the truth is probably somewhere in between.
► 01:56:46
And it's insane.
► 01:56:46
But the reality is that all that stuff that we can't prove...
► 01:56:52
We can prove that Nunez was in that meeting with Flynn and the Turkish ambassador.
► 01:56:56
And that doesn't look good.
► 01:56:58
Nunes is in the fucking balls of Trump.
► 01:57:01
That's what it is.
► 01:57:01
And...
► 01:57:02
Nunes is given handies with a little bit of prostate stimulation to Trump every possible chance he can.
► 01:57:08
And there is that documentation of him disappearing the night before he went to the White House.
► 01:57:12
Yeah.
► 01:57:13
Apparently meeting with somebody.
► 01:57:14
Like, there's a lot of stuff that's real fucked up.
► 01:57:17
Yeah.
► 01:57:18
So...
► 01:57:18
No, the entire American government should be shut down for a while.
► 01:57:23
Like, nobody should be allowed to do anything.
► 01:57:25
My thought is that I don't think he was meeting with Larry Klayman that night, but some of that stuff does relate to this Montgomery.
► 01:57:32
I think he was actually meeting with Larry Flint that night.
► 01:57:35
It's possible.
► 01:57:35
It's entirely possible.
► 01:57:37
Is he dead?
► 01:57:38
He's dead.
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I don't know.
► 01:57:39
He's probably dead.
► 01:57:40
He's one of those guys who I don't care if he's alive or dead.
► 01:57:42
So I have no idea.
► 01:57:44
He's done good works.
► 01:57:45
Great.
► 01:57:46
But what I'm saying is essentially that a lot of this stuff, Nunez's behavior, while not singularly motivated by this Montgomery information, which we've pretty clearly, I think, on this episode shown to be bullshit.
► 01:58:02
I don't think it's possible to be much clearer that it's bullshit.
► 01:58:06
But I think that part of his behavior was influenced by Clayman and the Montgomery information.
► 01:58:14
Also, the conspiracy theory community is aflame.
► 01:58:17
There's a lot of, like on the blogs and on the message boards, there's a ton of stuff about, why are people investigating Montgomery?
► 01:58:23
I just did.
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Suck it.
► 01:58:26
Well, this is kind of even more interesting, is that...
► 01:58:32
Like, we denigrate the conspiracy theory blogs, and yet at the same time, it's hard not to look at reality and go, some kind of conspiracy is happening, or there's been such a confluence of idiots happening all at the same time in this weird coincidence.
► 01:58:50
And that's...
► 01:58:53
Almost as likely as anything else.
► 01:58:55
I think you...
► 01:58:56
It's just as like with the Montgomery thing, right?
► 01:58:59
Yeah, yeah.
► 01:58:59
Those idiots believe that shit.
► 01:59:01
Like, it's just as likely what's going on right now is that everybody's just fucking stupid.
► 01:59:06
Or there's a fucking conspiracy pushed by Russia and all of this shit.
► 01:59:11
I think that you've touched on something important that I've been wanting to bring up for a while and I'll just deal with sort of slightly.
► 01:59:17
As we talk about how much of a liar Alex Jones is and all this stuff is bullshit, I don't want to paint with a broad brush all people who believe in conspiracy theories as the same.
► 01:59:28
There are a lot of people who are very smart and do real good research.
► 01:59:32
The idea that we would be denigrating the entire conspiracy community by attacking Alex Jones is unfair.
► 01:59:40
And I think that it's easy to make that assumption if we're not clear about it.
► 01:59:44
There's a lot of people who also believe Alex Jones is full of shit, but believe in conspiracies.
► 01:59:48
And God bless them!
► 01:59:50
There are those people.
► 01:59:51
Hey, chemtrails gotta chem.
► 01:59:52
Sure.
► 01:59:53
But there are not stupid, crazy people in that world.
► 01:59:57
Unfortunately, there is a lot of stupid, crazy people in that world.
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And we fall somewhere in between.
► 02:00:02
Yes.
► 02:00:03
Yes, absolutely.
► 02:00:04
So this next clip is Larry Klayman explaining why this is a matter of...
► 02:00:10
Immediate importance.
► 02:00:11
This is something that has to be dealt with now or never.
► 02:00:14
Exactly like how we need to finally get to the bottom of Obama's birth certificate.
► 02:00:19
Now or never.
► 02:00:20
And I will file three court cases about it.
► 02:00:23
It's kind of time to go public, you know?
► 02:00:25
Well, yeah.
► 02:00:26
And we want to do it in the right way.
► 02:00:28
By bringing...
► 02:00:29
On your show.
► 02:00:32
In front of people.
► 02:00:33
But this is bigger than snow.
► 02:00:34
This is 600 million.
► 02:00:35
I know why you've been young.
► 02:00:36
Right, right.
► 02:00:36
Because there's so much there.
► 02:00:38
And here's the reality.
► 02:00:39
My dick's bigger than your dick's no dick.
► 02:00:41
Montgomery could die as a brain aneurysm.
► 02:00:43
He needs to be interviewed immediately.
► 02:00:45
For those that don't know, it's when the artery's puffing out, it can blow any time.
► 02:00:48
Put him under oath.
► 02:00:50
He's willing to come forward.
► 02:00:51
He's risked his life here.
► 02:00:54
This guy's a hero.
► 02:00:55
He's risked his life.
► 02:00:55
He's come forward.
► 02:00:56
You know how a brain aneurysm works, right?
► 02:00:58
At any point in time, any of us could just die from a brain aneurysm.
► 02:01:02
I'm dead.
► 02:01:02
Yeah, that's a nonsense thing.
► 02:01:05
It's not like he has cancer.
► 02:01:06
He could die from a lightning strike at any moment.
► 02:01:09
He needs to be interviewed right now.
► 02:01:11
But again, it's just trying to create a sense of immediacy about it.
► 02:01:14
It's also trying to create sort of a tragic hero story around this obvious liar.
► 02:01:20
What possible reason could you have to interview him now?
► 02:01:23
I'd like to interview him.
► 02:01:25
That's a good point.
► 02:01:26
If we could get Dennis Montgomery on this podcast, I'm in.
► 02:01:29
CC him on all of our emails.
► 02:01:31
Because I got a lot of questions.
► 02:01:33
A ton of fucking questions.
► 02:01:36
What's your perfect Sunday, Mr. Montgomery?
► 02:01:38
That would be my first question.
► 02:01:39
That would be our first question.
► 02:01:40
First date.
► 02:01:41
Bistro or movie?
► 02:01:43
Why did I say bistro?
► 02:01:45
I have no idea!
► 02:01:46
I've never been to a bistro!
► 02:01:48
What are you talking about?
► 02:01:50
You know what happened?
► 02:01:50
I legitimately think I flashed back to, like, French classes.
► 02:01:53
I think my brain just, like, snapped.
► 02:01:54
Yeah, are you doing Before Midnight at us?
► 02:01:57
What is happening?
► 02:01:57
I love that movie.
► 02:01:58
Oh, of course you do.
► 02:01:59
I also love Richard Linklater, which is so confusing that he puts Alex Jones in two of his movies.
► 02:02:04
Anyway, if Richard Linklater is out there, I'd love to talk to you, too.
► 02:02:08
We're the next star fuckers.
► 02:02:10
I'd like to talk to you about how interesting Boyhood was, but it wasn't a good movie.
► 02:02:15
Anyway, this next clip, Larry Klayman gets into talking a little bit more about Montgomery himself and brings in the Joe Arpaio situation.
► 02:02:24
So enjoy it.
► 02:02:26
There's no proof.
► 02:02:27
I looked him up.
► 02:02:28
But just a minute or two on Montgomery and why this is so important and where we think this database came from.
► 02:02:35
That's right, Dennis.
► 02:02:36
I mean, excuse me, Alex.
► 02:02:38
People have tried to destroy his credibility.
► 02:02:40
That's what they've done with President Trump from these agencies.
► 02:02:42
And that's what they've done with Montgomery.
► 02:02:45
It's so easy.
► 02:02:46
We have successfully done that.
► 02:02:47
It's so easy to destroy his credibility.
► 02:02:48
We didn't even try to destroy his credibility.
► 02:02:50
I mean, you did.
► 02:02:51
All it took was like a couple Google searches.
► 02:02:54
Again, Google.
► 02:02:56
And just a couple, like, just read a couple articles.
► 02:02:59
Like, it's not that hard.
► 02:03:01
You find this guy is a massive...
► 02:03:04
Snake oil salesman.
► 02:03:05
He's a fraud!
► 02:03:06
And if he wasn't being used for propaganda purposes, I agree with you.
► 02:03:11
He would be fun.
► 02:03:12
It would be fun.
► 02:03:13
It would be like, is he gonna make it?
► 02:03:15
Is he gonna pull this off?
► 02:03:16
Yeah, there's always a part of me that's gonna be on the side of the guy trying to fuck with the FBI.
► 02:03:21
I think that there also is an archetype of that down-and-out, two-time loser, gambling loser kind of guy who's just trying to pull one last score.
► 02:03:29
One big score that's gonna solve all of his problems.
► 02:03:32
As our culture, we're all ingrained to pull for that.
► 02:03:36
We all want to see the little guy strike out against the system.
► 02:03:40
Yeah.
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And it's unfortunate.
► 02:03:42
That this little guy striking out against the system is being used propagandistically to support the system.
► 02:03:49
Yeah, it seems like we all want a Robin Hood and they all wind up being not Robin Hood.
► 02:03:54
Well, it's Robin Hood who's working for the Sheriff of Nottingham, it turns out.
► 02:03:58
Yeah.
► 02:03:59
Yeah, that's all.
► 02:04:00
Anyway, here we go.
► 02:04:00
The murderous, monstrous Sheriff of Nottingham.
► 02:04:03
You know what?
► 02:04:03
We gotta get back to sheriffs being the most important...
► 02:04:06
Anyway.
► 02:04:07
That fucking nonsense, the sheriff's movement, all that stuff, that's for another day.
► 02:04:12
No, fuck everybody.
► 02:04:13
This reporter, this hack reporter, James Risen of the New York Times.
► 02:04:17
Hack reporter.
► 02:04:18
That's the guy who wrote the book that involved the fraud that Montgomery pulled.
► 02:04:24
And again, Larry Klayman, as lawyer for Dennis Montgomery, sued this writer, was unsuccessful.
► 02:04:30
The case was thrown out of court.
► 02:04:32
Of course.
► 02:04:32
So now he's coming on Alex Jones and saying he's a hack reporter.
► 02:04:35
No, he's not.
► 02:04:36
You failed.
► 02:04:38
You know, smear him.
► 02:04:39
But that actually confirms that he is the guy that you need to talk to because he knows where the bodies are buried.
► 02:04:45
No pun intended.
► 02:04:47
Is that a pun?
► 02:04:49
That's not a pun.
► 02:04:51
That doesn't count as a pun.
► 02:04:52
And in terms of what happened out there in Arizona with Sheriff Arpaio, I represented in the successful amnesty case that knocked out Obama's immigration order.
► 02:05:02
Arpaio wasn't served well by his lawyers.
► 02:05:04
That didn't happen.
► 02:05:05
That didn't happen.
► 02:05:06
With regard to...
► 02:05:07
Dennis Montgomery.
► 02:05:08
He somehow got dragged into that, which is why we're proceeding on a separate track.
► 02:05:12
And I sympathize with Sheriff Arpaio, and he's a great man.
► 02:05:16
Yeah, I've talked to him.
► 02:05:16
He's staying out of this stuff.
► 02:05:18
Right.
► 02:05:19
But Alex Jones, there's like, I've talked to him.
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He's staying out of this.
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He's not staying out of this.
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If you say Arpaio is a great man, I automatically wish for your death.
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You lose all of your credibility.
► 02:05:29
I automatically wish for your death.
► 02:05:30
Yeah.
► 02:05:30
Like, legit.
► 02:05:31
You do not belong in this world.
► 02:05:33
You 100% don't.
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At least you're not in touch with your own humanity.
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You're a sociopath.
► 02:05:39
But then, Alex being like, I've talked to Arpaio, he's staying out of this.
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For good reason!
► 02:05:45
Arpaio said that Montgomery's investigation was junk.
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That's a good reason to stay out of it.
► 02:05:53
So now, I want to bring this back to this Phoenix News article that I was talking about earlier.
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Right.
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And I want to just play this out.
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Again, remember, Young is the lawyer that's trying the case against Arpaio.
► 02:06:06
According to reports presented in court, in November 2014, two outside experts with experience with the NSA evaluated Montgomery's hard drives for the sheriff's office and concluded that Montgomery was, quote, a complete and total fraud.
► 02:06:22
Young brought this up in court to Arpaio.
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Quote, at least by November 2014, you knew Dennis Montgomery was a fraud.
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That's the question that Young asked.
► 02:06:36
Quote, that was putting it lightly, Arpaio said.
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
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That was putting it lightly, Arpaio said, noting they had been working Montgomery for a year at that point.
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Quote, so we decided to stop paying him.
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Young went on to present email records showing members of Arpaio's team were still in touch with Montgomery for months after that, into 2015.
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Quote, How can you sustain that?
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I mean, it's leading.
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Okay.
► 02:07:25
It's leading.
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Technically, that is leading.
► 02:07:27
Technically, that would be conjecture.
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However, now I'm going to go with yes.
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The answer is yes.
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As humans, it's a fair question.
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In court, it's dubious.
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Probably not.
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Probably not.
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So, after court, Masterson accused Young of insulting the sheriff.
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Young reminded Arpaio that Judge Snow had asked him in April whether Montgomery had investigated Judge Snow.
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And Arpaio never brought up the timelines, which again were the faxes with the weird typewriting on the back, or other documents Montgomery had investigated.
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Quote, Quote, Quote, Maybe I should have brought it up, but it never came to my mind at that time, Arpaio said.
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Fuck you!
► 02:08:22
So the idea that Arpaio's staying out of it is really not really relevant.
► 02:08:27
He's admitted in court that this guy is a complete and total fraud, but also admitted that he kept working with him, or his department kept working with him after he was shown...
► 02:08:37
Well, he's a genius.
► 02:08:41
Investigators evaluated his hard drives as a fraud.
► 02:08:44
Now, this is, again, this is like the Marie Le Pen fascist situation.
► 02:08:48
You should be allowed to prove in court that Arpaio is an idiot.
► 02:08:52
I think it is a legal imperative.
► 02:08:55
The only reason I disagree is because...
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It's irrelevant.
► 02:09:00
I don't think it's irrelevant.
► 02:09:01
If you were to bring a court case specifically designed to prove that he's an idiot, then it's relevant.
► 02:09:07
But because it's a contempt of court case, it's irrelevant to the matter at hand.
► 02:09:13
That's why the court has to dismiss Are You an Idiot?
► 02:09:16
Which I still love that the attorney...
► 02:09:18
Although, in the eventual death penalty trial that Arpaio should be under, you probably shouldn't prove that he's an idiot unless you're in Texas, in which case you can still execute him.
► 02:09:28
Yeah.
► 02:09:28
So, at this point, Clayman...
► 02:09:30
Once again, guys, you should execute Joe Arpaio.
► 02:09:34
I don't think he doesn't deserve it.
► 02:09:36
I'd like to see a court trial, though.
► 02:09:38
Oh, man.
► 02:09:38
He should be executed.
► 02:09:39
I don't want any violence to happen to him except for sanctioned because of his actions.
► 02:09:44
Don't believe in the death penalty.
► 02:09:46
Believe that he should be executed.
► 02:09:48
Again, I want to be clear that me and Jordan know a ton more than is on this podcast, and please look into Joe Arpaio's history.
► 02:09:55
Yeah.
► 02:09:55
It sounds like we're being severe based on what we've talked about in this podcast.
► 02:10:00
Not even close.
► 02:10:01
Real talk, we had to edit some stuff out.
► 02:10:04
I nearly cried.
► 02:10:06
You did.
► 02:10:06
I'm not joking.
► 02:10:07
I'm not joking.
► 02:10:08
And almost fainted.
► 02:10:10
We had to pause.
► 02:10:11
I had to go outside and walk around.
► 02:10:13
Just based on how bad a dude this is.
► 02:10:15
And he didn't even get halfway through that shit!
► 02:10:18
So please look into that.
► 02:10:19
Again, Arpaio's a monster.
► 02:10:22
But...
► 02:10:22
We have to get back to the matter at hand, which is this interview with Larry Klayman, where he insists that all his shit is credible.
► 02:10:30
And then beyond that, he goes to lay the blame for the Trump spying and all this shit on people who are no longer in office.
► 02:10:41
The current predicament is the fault of people who have not been involved for quite a while.
► 02:10:47
Ah, shadow government!
► 02:10:49
Well, that's what I, when I was weeks ago talking to Corsi, he talked to the White House, and so did I. They all know it's real, and we're like, get Montgomery in, or make a press conference, and then they're just like, we'll check, and I don't know what's going on, but I don't know why that hasn't happened.
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Well, don't trust the intelligence agencies to give you the truth, because as Mr. Benny just said, they lie.
► 02:11:08
I agree with that.
► 02:11:09
I want to be clear.
► 02:11:09
Generally, I agree.
► 02:11:11
Yeah, that's a generally true statement.
► 02:11:13
A lot of times, you've got to take things that intelligence agencies say with a grain of salt.
► 02:11:16
If somebody says anonymous sources within the government, you should probably be aware that there is a reason those anonymous sources are sharing that information.
► 02:11:24
But sometimes...
► 02:11:25
Generally, not to share the truth.
► 02:11:26
Sometimes it's manipulative.
► 02:11:28
Sometimes it is people protecting their confidentiality.
► 02:11:31
So, I mean, it goes both ways.
► 02:11:33
Sometimes it is legit.
► 02:11:34
Sometimes it's not.
► 02:11:35
But you should definitely know in advance that there's a very...
► 02:11:39
I would say 70-30 manipulative.
► 02:11:41
The message, I think, that is most important is that intelligence communities do lie to people a lot of the time, but sometimes they don't.
► 02:11:48
I mean, it's technically their job.
► 02:11:49
You should look for evidence.
► 02:11:51
Yeah.
► 02:11:51
You should look for truth, as opposed to believing or disbelieving what things are said to you.
► 02:11:57
Right.
► 02:11:57
Just take things as they come to you.
► 02:12:02
Look for facts.
► 02:12:04
Have a knowledge file.
► 02:12:08
I've realized legitimately.
► 02:12:11
Legitimately.
► 02:12:12
That was the smoothest you've ever been.
► 02:12:15
Legitimately, it's the wine.
► 02:12:16
That's it.
► 02:12:17
We're drinking Storyteller wine.
► 02:12:18
We are drinking Storyteller.
► 02:12:19
Yeah, you're right.
► 02:12:21
Legitimately, I'm getting to the point where I'm realizing that if I ever want this to take off, I'm going to have to start mimicking some of Alex Jones' behaviors.
► 02:12:27
So I'm going to start with, look for facts, you dumb fucks.
► 02:12:30
All right.
► 02:12:31
But meanwhile, our listeners are really awesome and they're really cool.
► 02:12:35
Yeah.
► 02:12:35
I don't think that you guys are idiots.
► 02:12:37
Maybe a couple.
► 02:12:38
Oh, Jesus!
► 02:12:40
No, I don't know.
► 02:12:41
What's wrong with you?
► 02:12:42
Well, I'm just assuming we have like...
► 02:12:43
Just like statistically, what are you trying to do?
► 02:12:46
The people that I've communicated with seem really awesome, but I gotta assume there's some dum-dums in there.
► 02:12:51
Listen, I'm...
► 02:12:52
What are you doing right now?
► 02:12:53
This is the one.
► 02:12:57
Guys, we've had a rough podcast from time to time.
► 02:13:02
Learn more about Joe Arpaio and you'll understand where we're coming from.
► 02:13:05
I've just blamed the wine for me being smooth and for me lashing out at hypothetical listeners.
► 02:13:10
This is great.
► 02:13:11
And this is why we don't record on Wednesdays.
► 02:13:13
Wednesdays is Dan's therapy day.
► 02:13:15
Anyway, here we go.
► 02:13:16
Back to this where he blames Clapper and what have you.
► 02:13:20
I'm sorry for putting your personal business up.
► 02:13:22
I think I've done it in the past myself.
► 02:13:23
Totally.
► 02:13:24
They're covering up.
► 02:13:25
You have two very corrupt people under the Obama administration that run.
► 02:13:29
The director of national intelligence, Clapper, who's a certified liar who lied under oath.
► 02:13:32
I was about to say, why are these people still in?
► 02:13:34
Trump needs to get rid of all.
► 02:13:36
He got his certification from Trump University.
► 02:13:39
Well, Trump needs to get rid of all these dudes who are no longer in office.
► 02:13:43
It's time he got rid of them.
► 02:13:44
Clapper is not.
► 02:13:46
Yeah, but it's time to get rid of them.
► 02:13:48
Gotta get rid of them.
► 02:13:49
Yeah.
► 02:13:50
Clapper's gone.
► 02:13:51
John Brennan, former CIA director.
► 02:13:52
Gone.
► 02:13:53
Former.
► 02:13:53
He's ethically compromised and corrupt as well.
► 02:13:55
He tried to destroy Trump.
► 02:13:57
I mean, he didn't.
► 02:14:00
The example that Alex keeps going back to is that Clapper, who's gone?
► 02:14:07
John Brennan, who was...
► 02:14:09
Also gone.
► 02:14:10
He's gone now.
► 02:14:10
Yeah.
► 02:14:11
But when Trump got elected, in between him being sworn in, he said that he should watch his mouth.
► 02:14:18
He should be careful about the things he says.
► 02:14:20
Right.
► 02:14:20
Which, I mean, sure.
► 02:14:21
Which is such a childish way of doing things.
► 02:14:23
It's a little sassy.
► 02:14:24
Motherfucker, watch your mouth!
► 02:14:25
Yeah, I mean, talk shit, get hit, is the kind of message.
► 02:14:29
Don't snitch!
► 02:14:30
I get where Alex's interpretation of it being like, hey boy, watch your mouth, that kind of thing.
► 02:14:35
I don't like the way you said that.
► 02:14:37
Look, I know that boy has racial connotations.
► 02:14:41
That's not in play.
► 02:14:43
That's the wine talking again.
► 02:14:44
It's not in play.
► 02:14:45
I get where Alex takes some umbrage at that, but I also would understand how anybody who's in the intelligence community recognizes the stakes.
► 02:14:54
Of the president running his mouth.
► 02:14:57
Yeah.
► 02:14:57
How you can piss off foreign powers accidentally, which Trump has done a couple times.
► 02:15:03
Well, he didn't even fucking shake Merkel's hand like a pussy.
► 02:15:06
But he can do these things to insult foreign powers that are our allies, that we have deep, deep, blood-filled alliances with.
► 02:15:15
And he can insult them.
► 02:15:17
And you should watch your mouth.
► 02:15:18
You should be really careful what you say.
► 02:15:20
You should use diplomacy.
► 02:15:24
Mm-hmm.
► 02:15:24
Now, there's a reason we have a department that is entirely devoted to diplomacy.
► 02:15:30
And there's a reason you fill that department with people who can be diplomatic.
► 02:15:35
Who are diplomats.
► 02:15:36
Instead, what he did was put an ExxonMobil guy in there who actually has been quoted as saying he didn't want the job.
► 02:15:45
And his wife said, yeah, you should do it.
► 02:15:48
Yeah.
► 02:15:49
And then they have not staffed that department.
► 02:15:51
Nope.
► 02:15:51
Definitely not with any career diplomats.
► 02:15:53
Nope.
► 02:15:53
Everybody is confused.
► 02:15:55
Yeah.
► 02:15:55
Angry.
► 02:15:56
Frustrated.
► 02:15:57
The press aren't involved.
► 02:15:58
And now the head of that department is saying, hey, we might fucking bomb North Korea.
► 02:16:01
Yeah!
► 02:16:02
We're not having a good time of it.
► 02:16:03
No.
► 02:16:04
Our foreign policy, you know, like, it's strange to be so obsessed with domestic policy when we are bombing the shit out of Syria, killing more civilians than we've killed in so long.
► 02:16:16
Repeatedly non, like, it's not even defensible that they're military targets.
► 02:16:21
When we've offended so many of our allies.
► 02:16:24
Yep.
► 02:16:25
When we've fucking threatened so many countries at this point.
► 02:16:28
This is why the wine is necessary.
► 02:16:30
This clip is Larry Klayman saying that everything in the world essentially is Obama's fault.
► 02:16:34
Excellent.
► 02:16:36
If you follow the evidence here, I'm certain that President Obama is sitting on top of this.
► 02:16:41
He must have known.
► 02:16:42
He's actually windsurfing on top of it right now.
► 02:16:45
Again, he's talking about all this information that Montgomery has that he hasn't looked at.
► 02:16:49
From before Obama was president.
► 02:16:51
So again, he's sure that it's all Obama's fault.
► 02:16:53
Probably.
► 02:16:53
But he hasn't looked at any of it.
► 02:16:55
Uh-uh.
► 02:16:55
So, great.
► 02:16:56
I take your word for it, Larry Klayman, guy who is...
► 02:16:59
Clearly incredible.
► 02:17:00
Master of claymation.
► 02:17:02
I'm sure he directed it.
► 02:17:03
Sure, they always direct everything.
► 02:17:05
They're totally command and control.
► 02:17:06
I bet it was above Obama.
► 02:17:08
Who gave the order originally above Obama?
► 02:17:11
Soros?
► 02:17:12
It had to go to Obama ultimately.
► 02:17:15
You can blame it on the minions, but the buck stops on his desk.
► 02:17:19
And I want to make one other point, Alex.
► 02:17:21
In other countries in the world, Israel, Brazil, other countries, they hold...
► 02:17:25
The top executive accountable.
► 02:17:27
We've never done that.
► 02:17:30
Israel and Brazil and other countries.
► 02:17:31
It's time.
► 02:17:32
That's a super unfortunate...
► 02:17:34
That's such a weird list of...
► 02:17:36
And it's a dumb example.
► 02:17:38
Israel, apartheid country.
► 02:17:39
Brazil, recently had a coup.
► 02:17:41
You know, other countries.
► 02:17:43
The good ones.
► 02:17:44
The ones where they hold their leaders responsible.
► 02:17:47
Benjamin Netanyahu has never been held responsible for any of the war crimes that he's committed.
► 02:17:52
And the Brazilian president is literally not allowed to run for president.
► 02:17:57
He is legally barred from running for the job he currently holds that he obtained by...
► 02:18:04
Purely illegal means.
► 02:18:06
So he uses these two countries as an example to make a point about how Obama, who's no longer the president, needs to be held responsible for bullshit, lies that he's peddling on Alex Jones' show.
► 02:18:18
Right.
► 02:18:18
And then Alex is like, I totally agree.
► 02:18:20
It's so fucking stupid.
► 02:18:22
It's so stupid.
► 02:18:23
It's incredibly, it's insane.
► 02:18:25
Like, you could probably.
► 02:18:26
It's the FBI buying software based on Al Jazeera's barcode stupid.
► 02:18:32
Yeah, it's right up there.
► 02:18:33
It's...
► 02:18:34
Oh!
► 02:18:35
It's an Italian cuisine of stupid.
► 02:18:38
That's the last clip that I have from Larry Clayman's interview.
► 02:18:41
Okay.
► 02:18:41
If you want to know more about him and you want him to speak his piece...
► 02:18:45
Check your local library.
► 02:18:47
Yeah.
► 02:18:48
He probably has written books.
► 02:18:49
I didn't look into that.
► 02:18:50
But if you want to hear his entire argument laid out...
► 02:18:55
Uh-huh.
► 02:19:04
Uh-huh.
► 02:19:23
Really desperately make you believe that the people he has on his show are real.
► 02:19:29
Just not Sesame Street puppets?
► 02:19:32
They're not claymation.
► 02:19:33
Okay.
► 02:19:34
These guests, 99% out of 100 are accurate.
► 02:19:37
None of us are perfect, but we try to tell the truth.
► 02:19:39
We try to get it right.
► 02:19:41
No, you don't.
► 02:19:41
But sometimes, you know, if the innocent or those that are questionable get harmed, we have to also admit we've been wrong.
► 02:19:46
Fake pizza game apology.
► 02:19:46
That's what all this is about, but our hearts are in the right place.
► 02:19:49
We're trying to change the world.
► 02:19:50
I hate you.
► 02:19:51
Yeah, so, I mean, like, your guests are 99% accurate.
► 02:19:54
Fake, fake Pizzagate apologies.
► 02:19:56
I legitimately don't know how you would quantify what percent your guests are accurate, but I know that if there was a system, 99% is ambitious.
► 02:20:06
There's no way.
► 02:20:07
Even for a reputable news site, 99% seems ambitious, right?
► 02:20:12
I think the most respectable news sources that I trust...
► 02:20:15
Have maybe 80. Yeah, I was going to say 75% is amazing to me.
► 02:20:20
I'm saying, that's why I said maybe.
► 02:20:22
Yeah.
► 02:20:22
Maybe, and that's hot.
► 02:20:24
Yeah.
► 02:20:24
Like I said, I told you on the last episode I've been reading Foreign Policy.
► 02:20:27
Right, because you're a wonk.
► 02:20:29
I'm a wonk.
► 02:20:30
A lot of the stuff that I've been reading in there, it seems incredibly credible.
► 02:20:33
I've looked into things that are cited, and absolutely, it backs up.
► 02:20:37
So like...
► 02:20:38
But I still think that they get things wrong from time to time.
► 02:20:41
Yeah, of course.
► 02:20:42
It's every citizen's responsibility to take in media and news and then evaluate it.
► 02:20:49
That's your responsibility.
► 02:20:51
It's not the media's responsibility to be right every time.
► 02:20:54
When they're wrong, it is their responsibility to...
► 02:20:57
To own up to it.
► 02:20:58
Exactly.
► 02:20:58
And to write a correction and to make sure that everybody knows that...
► 02:21:02
Which places like the New York Times, Washington Post, these sorts of establishment institutions do on a regular basis.
► 02:21:10
They do.
► 02:21:11
They perhaps don't do as loudly as maybe they should, but they do it.
► 02:21:16
Yeah.
► 02:21:17
For the most part.
► 02:21:18
It's unfortunate because this weekend again, Alex Jones came out with his apology about Pizzagate.
► 02:21:23
His bullshit apology.
► 02:21:24
But he doesn't apologize for things that he says.
► 02:21:27
Nope.
► 02:21:27
He never does.
► 02:21:28
And this Pizzagate apology is not evidence that he does apologize for things.
► 02:21:32
Because even packaged within that apology is...
► 02:21:37
And it's throwing other news organizations under the bus.
► 02:21:40
It's like, hey, they said it, we're reporting on it.
► 02:21:42
What do you want to do?
► 02:21:43
We made a mistake, but our mistake was really trusting other people.
► 02:21:47
It wasn't us not doing our due diligence.
► 02:21:51
Yeah, and if they had done any due diligence, they never would have reported any of that shit.
► 02:21:55
Nope, because it's bullshit.
► 02:21:57
And I'm not even a news outlet, and I did my due diligence about Pizzagate.
► 02:22:03
Truly?
► 02:22:04
Which this episode is not about.
► 02:22:05
You did way more due diligence than a lot of media outlets.
► 02:22:10
So, we're about to wrap up this episode, but before we do, I have a couple more clips that are just kind of fun.
► 02:22:14
Uh-huh.
► 02:22:14
This one...
► 02:22:15
Oh, God, I needed those.
► 02:22:16
This one, Jerome Corsi has been...
► 02:22:20
He wasn't on the phone during the Clayman interview.
► 02:22:22
Right.
► 02:22:23
This goes back to the Zulu interview.
► 02:22:25
He was, again, just sitting in the corner singing...
► 02:22:27
Zippity-doo-dah?
► 02:22:28
Yep.
► 02:22:29
Slightly racist Disney song?
► 02:22:30
Right.
► 02:22:31
So, this one is...
► 02:22:33
I don't know why that came to my head.
► 02:22:34
It's a good song, though, if you take the racist part out of it.
► 02:22:37
Zippity-doo-dah, zippity-day, my oh my, what a wonderful day.
► 02:22:41
That's fun.
► 02:22:42
Anyway, let's not unpack Tar Baby and Uncle Remus.
► 02:22:48
All right.
► 02:22:49
So, Jerome Corsi was in the background, essentially, for the entire Mike Zullo interview.
► 02:22:54
And then once Mike Zullo gets off the phone, Alex Jones has got to kiss Jerome Corsi's ass for a little while.
► 02:23:00
So he says...
► 02:23:01
This clip.
► 02:23:03
He says this clip.
► 02:23:04
And it's one way of looking at things.
► 02:23:06
And after the clip, I'll explain the better way of looking at things.
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Okay.
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I mean, your articles are all so powerful.
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And either from high-level leaks or the White House, you're pointing out what needs to be looked at.
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Notice, everything you write for us, everything else we write gets picked up in the news.
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Everything you write, your total blacklist, which shows you are really on target, my friend.
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So I want to thank you.
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Cuck.
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Well, his argument is...
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Listen, everything we write, everybody looks at.
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Everything you write, nobody looks at.
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Nailed it.
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That's how on target you are.
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Nailed it.
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Nobody wants to read your bullshit.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That's like a bullshit ad for him, right?
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Everything Paul Joseph Watson does, everyone loves that stuff.
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But stuff you do, everyone ignores.
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It must mean you're super on target.
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Yeah, you're like a conspiracy theorist's conspiracy theorist.
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Or it might mean that you're widely discredited, even in wonky conspiracy theory communities.
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And when I say wonky, I don't mean wonky like policy wonk.
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I mean wonky like not functioning.
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Like having a wonky leg.
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Yeah, exactly.
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I gotcha.
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It's unfortunate that it's the same word, I realize now.
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Well, I mean, so far we've seen that Paul Ryan's wonkiness is wonky.
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It's absolutely him malfunctioning.
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It's perhaps broken.
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So we have one more clip left to play, and this is what I would like to call the parting shot.
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Generally, I like to try and come up with something that really sums up the feeling of things.
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I have not done that this time.
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So if you don't want to listen to two and a half hours of us talking, feel free to go to the last five minutes.
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Where you will have a good clip for him.
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But before we get to this clip, let's just give a slight insummation of everything we've covered.
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Yes.
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Monsters.
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Liars.
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Frauds.
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Idiots.
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Everybody involved with the Alex Jones Show is all of those things.
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Yes.
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That's pretty much what we've covered.
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I think you did a good, real brief summation.
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I'm going to try for a little bit more.
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Oh, do you want more explanation?
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You gave the bones.
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You gave the bones.
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I'm going to put a little meat on it.
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So the meat on that bones is that...
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Joe Arpaio is a complete monster.
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He is guilty of racial profiling.
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Deserves the death penalty.
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So much worse.
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He is absolutely terrible.
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He was not being wiretapped by any information that is publicly available.
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Deserves the death penalty.
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He had a confidential informant named Dennis Montgomery, who is a proven liar, who has a history of fraud, has a history of trying to set up people with fake documents.
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And clearly is lying.
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Yep.
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His now lawyer, Larry Klayman, is a complete Islamophobic bigot.
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He has tried multiple times to have frivolous lawsuits against liberals.
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Kicked out of two courts forever.
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For life.
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For life.
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Was not allowed to be Cliven Bundy's lawyer, which is crazy.
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Yep.
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And so these are the characters that we're dealing with.
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Alex Jones takes this third-hand information about an alleged wiretapping problem.
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Project Dragnet that's been going on that allegedly has his phone numbers, which again, as I said, spelled out earlier, Montgomery could easily get that information from very mild hacking, which he has shown through...
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His typewriter skills.
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People talking about him and his history has shown that he is capable of those things.
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At the very least can write basic software in 2002.
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Yes.
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So what we have here is Alex Jones either willingly or unwillingly being tricked by...
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And also Mike Zullo is an accomplice to Joe Arpaio's Crimes Against Humanity.
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Yeah, at very least.
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And probably deserves life in prison.
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But probably could get you a good deal on a Hyundai.
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An amazing deal on a Hyundai.
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Probably.
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So, Alex Jones...
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Handshake deal.
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Alex Jones...
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In cash.
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Wouldn't even need to write it down.
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Alex Jones has done no research into any of these things.
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Or if he has, he is truly 100% trying to lie.
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Yes.
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In a way that we have always had...
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Those are the only two possibilities.
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In the way that we have always had that kind of spectrum going back and forth.
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If...
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Alex Jones has done any research into these people, then he is aware 100% that he is lying and peddling a false narrative.
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Yes.
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If he is not, which to me seems the more likely situation, because again, all of the work you've done, all of the research you've done seems like something so far beyond anything Alex Jones is capable of.
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It hasn't taken me that long, though.
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Exactly!
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To be honest...
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And that's the even more pathetic part of it!
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To be honest, we're not getting paid for this show.
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Nope.
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And I have a 9 to 5 job that actually is generally an 8 to 6 job.
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So, like, I'm at work a lot of my life and I can't be spending time researching.
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I have not been tearing my hair out researching this.
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Exactly.
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It's been pretty easy to find most of this information.
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And that's...
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That's kind of more, again, it fits within Alex Jones and what we know of him that he would not have done even the most cursory of research.
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If someone comes to Jerome Corsi and says, I have evidence that Trump is being spied on, Jerome Corsi is going to write up an article.
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And Alex Jones is going to just implicitly believe it, no matter what.
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He's not going to do any research into figuring out, is this worth me posting on my site?
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He's not going to do any of that work.
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And because he doesn't, and because Jerome Corsi is so, so uncredited, so unethical, he just brings this bullshit into the house.
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Right.
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So...
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And Alex Jones is happy to purvey it.
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To me, I fall on the side of Alex Jones is the village idiot, not the Mafia Don in this particular circumstance.
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That's interesting.
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I don't think he's willfully misleading people in the way that he would be.
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If he had done any research into any of these people.
► 02:29:14
Now see, here's where I disagree with you, just on a slight technicality.
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Yes.
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I think he willfully doesn't do the research because a part of him knows that if he did, he would invalidate his own beliefs.
► 02:29:24
Your objection is sustained.
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Thank you.
► 02:29:27
Thank you, Counselor.
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Yeah.
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Permission to approach the bench.
► 02:29:29
Uh, never.
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In fact, you're kicked out of my courtroom for life!
► 02:29:34
Um, so, realistically, what we end this with...
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Trump was not being spied on in the way.
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That's it!
► 02:29:46
That's where we end the podcast.
► 02:29:48
Like, if we just said that, it ended the podcast right there.
► 02:29:50
Because that's the narrative that Alex was pitching the entire week.
► 02:29:54
The idea that his phone number and Trump's phone number and all that was part of this database is absolute lies, which we've, I think, firmly established.
► 02:30:03
And it took...
► 02:30:04
There's a web of things that's built upon it.
► 02:30:07
He spent a week on this!
► 02:30:10
He had multiple interviews with people propping up this lie.
► 02:30:15
It's complete bullshit.
► 02:30:16
And Nunes himself has confirmed there is no evidence that Trump was wiretapped at Trump Tower.
► 02:30:23
But in the meantime, Nunes is at least incredulous of this evidence.
► 02:30:27
He's at least been tricked in some way.
► 02:30:31
His behavior was altered by some of this information.
► 02:30:34
Nunes, I would actually argue, is on the evil side, is on the evil spectrum of willfully lying.
► 02:30:41
Especially based...
► 02:30:42
In order to protect Trump, but in the same way, he's hitching his wagon to what he thinks won't get torn down.
► 02:30:49
Boy, it looked pretty good a couple months ago.
► 02:30:52
Yeah, exactly, right?
► 02:30:53
If you were going to, like, just 50-50 horse race here.
► 02:30:58
Let's blue sky this thing.
► 02:30:59
Who do you think you would rather hitch your horse to right now?
► 02:31:03
Paul Ryan or Donald Trump?
► 02:31:05
Right?
► 02:31:06
That's a Sophie's choice.
► 02:31:08
It really is.
► 02:31:09
No, it's the reverse of one.
► 02:31:10
I want to kill both of my children.
► 02:31:13
I hate my children!
► 02:31:15
No, that's a no-win situation.
► 02:31:17
I don't want to hitch my horse to either of them, but if I had to choose, I'd probably go Trump.
► 02:31:20
You'd probably go Trump?
► 02:31:21
Yeah.
► 02:31:22
Oh, man.
► 02:31:23
I'm still going to go with Ryan here.
► 02:31:25
I would go Trump, but real casually.
► 02:31:29
Just because I don't want anything to do with Paul Ryan.
► 02:31:32
I would fuck Trump once every couple of weeks.
► 02:31:34
Real cash stuff.
► 02:31:35
It's like a hookup.
► 02:31:37
I think Trump is a traitor, but somehow I think Paul Ryan is worse.
► 02:31:41
Paul Ryan is absolutely worse.
► 02:31:42
So I would go with Trump, but...
► 02:31:46
But I'm talking more about pure survival.
► 02:31:50
I'm not talking about who's the more monstrous.
► 02:31:54
Right, right, right.
► 02:31:55
Because I hope both of them get hit by a truck.
► 02:31:56
Then you go Ryan.
► 02:31:57
Right, exactly.
► 02:31:58
I think Ryan is going to...
► 02:32:01
I mean, well, see, and then we go back to...
► 02:32:04
He's more of a cockroach.
► 02:32:05
We go back to the healthcare bill, right?
► 02:32:08
I would have, before the whole healthcare bill, I would have said that Ryan was capable of outmaneuvering Trump.
► 02:32:16
Because the healthcare bill was maybe the most unpopular thing ever introduced into Congress, and he still put all of his energy into it, maybe, just maybe, Paul Ryan is an idiot.
► 02:32:31
He's not a wonk.
► 02:32:32
He is definitely not.
► 02:32:33
His reputation as being a guy who is smart is gone.
► 02:32:36
It's also interesting, though, because I don't know really...
► 02:32:39
I've not done deep research into it, but I did read an article about how...
► 02:32:44
Trump making a hard sell on the healthcare bill ended up losing them 10 votes.
► 02:32:49
Yeah, I would believe that.
► 02:32:50
He went in and tried to negotiate with folks.
► 02:32:53
Like a used car salesman.
► 02:32:54
And it worked negatively.
► 02:32:56
Yeah.
► 02:32:56
So it's possible that Paul Ryan maybe could have pulled it off without Trump's blustery tactics.
► 02:33:01
Look, we can't do that one.
► 02:33:04
It's impossible.
► 02:33:05
No, that one's not that.
► 02:33:06
Either way, we have one more clip.
► 02:33:07
And this is Alex Jones talking about...
► 02:33:10
I mean, this is just great.
► 02:33:13
Okay.
► 02:33:14
All right, let's get to it.
► 02:33:15
I'll just let it play.
► 02:33:17
Let's get some dessert on this shit.
► 02:33:19
This is absolutely dessert.
► 02:33:20
Okay.
► 02:33:21
This world being so unstable, if they bring down Trump, which they're trying to do, they're just trying to demonize him before they kill him.
► 02:33:26
You need high-quality, storable foods.
► 02:33:28
I know I've increased the amounts I've got.
► 02:33:29
People keep thinking, oh, go back to sleep.
► 02:33:31
Trump's in.
► 02:33:31
Oh, yeah, get ready.
► 02:33:33
We usually do this once a year.
► 02:33:35
I'm doing it every few months now.
► 02:33:36
It's 30% to 40% off all the high-quality, storable foods that are fresh, produced right here in America by my patron supply.
► 02:33:43
Alex Jones showing his true colors.
► 02:33:45
Oh my god, that felt so good.
► 02:33:47
That was the catharsis I have wanted for months now.
► 02:33:51
They're gonna kill Trump?
► 02:33:52
Hey, you need food.
► 02:33:52
You need food?
► 02:33:53
You're gonna need it!
► 02:33:54
Anyway, what a bunch of assholes.
► 02:33:56
Oh god.
► 02:33:57
Anyway.
► 02:33:57
Dan, let me ask you a question.
► 02:33:59
Let me answer a question for you.
► 02:34:00
Where would you find us if you were looking for us?
► 02:34:03
Well, I would say that the primary place you can find us is knowledgefight.com, our website.
► 02:34:08
Oh, we have a website!
► 02:34:09
We do, and there's a link up there if you'd like to support the show.
► 02:34:11
We do take donations through Patreon.
► 02:34:14
There's a link on knowledgefight.com.
► 02:34:17
We are welcome to do that.
► 02:34:18
You don't have to.
► 02:34:19
I don't give a shit.
► 02:34:20
I'd like it.
► 02:34:21
Again, you're very defensive for no reason.
► 02:34:24
You can also subscribe to us on iTunes.
► 02:34:27
If you leave a review, do you know that that pushes our rankings up or something like that?
► 02:34:32
I don't know how iTunes works.
► 02:34:33
And thank you to...
► 02:34:35
Listen, I'm going to give a thank you to a friend of mine.
► 02:34:38
Thank you, Brian Berger.
► 02:34:39
What's up, baby?
► 02:34:40
He left us a nice review on iTunes recently.
► 02:34:44
Oh, good!
► 02:34:44
And thank you.
► 02:34:45
We genuinely...
► 02:34:47
It really does...
► 02:34:49
Make me feel like I'm a part of something whenever people review this.
► 02:34:54
There are plenty of podcasts.
► 02:34:57
Also, by the way, remember when I was complaining about someone leaving a four-star review?
► 02:35:01
Yeah.
► 02:35:02
I went back and checked.
► 02:35:03
I think they changed it to a five.
► 02:35:04
Oh, no!
► 02:35:05
Dan!
► 02:35:06
Dan!
► 02:35:07
You're a bully!
► 02:35:09
I'm sorry that I bullied you.
► 02:35:10
You're the Alex Jones of knowledge fight.
► 02:35:13
I'm so sorry.
► 02:35:14
No, here's the weird thing.
► 02:35:16
You get overly defensive.
► 02:35:17
I get way overly sincere.
► 02:35:19
Like, oh, guys, you touch me.
► 02:35:22
It is very nice, though.
► 02:35:23
It is.
► 02:35:23
It is truly.
► 02:35:24
I mean, whatever those sincere feelings that you're expressing, I definitely feel, too.
► 02:35:28
But I have a stony visage.
► 02:35:29
Yeah.
► 02:35:30
It's hard because feeling like part of the resistance or whatever it is seems very futile at times.
► 02:35:38
We're resistance to something.
► 02:35:40
We're trying.
► 02:35:40
Yeah.
► 02:35:41
You know, it's hard to try.
► 02:35:43
It really is.
► 02:35:44
Like, looking at the protests in Russia just this day.
► 02:35:47
Jesus.
► 02:35:48
You see those people who are far...
► 02:35:51
That's real bravery.
► 02:35:52
Far more brave than anything I can imagine because...
► 02:35:56
Ever.
► 02:35:56
Just going there has a very real possibility of killing you.
► 02:36:01
Yeah.
► 02:36:01
It truly does.
► 02:36:02
And so...
► 02:36:03
You just see massive swarms of riot police.
► 02:36:08
Making lines in order to shuttle all the protesters into a building.
► 02:36:13
Any of those people could be dead.
► 02:36:15
They look like fucking RoboCop.
► 02:36:17
It's ridiculous.
► 02:36:18
So just to feel like I am at the very least putting the smallest amount of what I can into it because I'm so confused about how to actually join that.
► 02:36:30
All we can do is, again, encourage people to call your representatives.
► 02:36:37
Do everything you can.
► 02:36:38
That's a small thing.
► 02:36:39
It's very easy to do, and you should.
► 02:36:42
Donate money to the ACLU.
► 02:36:44
Absolutely.
► 02:36:44
Any other cause that you support?
► 02:36:47
100%.
► 02:36:47
Do whatever it is you can.
► 02:36:49
That's what we want to encourage people to do.
► 02:36:52
That's what we do.
► 02:36:53
And then beyond that also, and I'm guilty of not doing this all the time because I'm kind of a crank, but like...
► 02:36:59
It does go a long way just to be nice to people.
► 02:37:01
That is a really important thing.
► 02:37:03
As our country descends further into really scary...
► 02:37:07
Into the Hunger Games.
► 02:37:08
We live in the Hunger Games now.
► 02:37:09
As we descend into really scary territory, it is important that you be nice to people.
► 02:37:13
So try.
► 02:37:14
Try.
► 02:37:15
Try to see the humanity in your fellow people.
► 02:37:17
And the only way to be nice to people, Dan, I will tell you this right now, is to leave a great review of Knowledge Fight on iTunes.
► 02:37:24
I'm glad you got there.
► 02:37:25
Because that was...
► 02:37:26
That was my point.
► 02:37:27
Anyways, guys.
► 02:37:29
Also, you can follow us at Twitter, knowledge underscore fight.
► 02:37:32
You can email us at knowledgefight at gmail dot com.
► 02:37:35
Also, I don't think we mentioned this in the last episode, but thank you to the AV Club giving us a nice shout out.
► 02:37:40
Oh, yeah.
► 02:37:41
At Future Schlock.
► 02:37:42
Yeah.
► 02:37:43
Super awesome.
► 02:37:43
Thank you very much.
► 02:37:44
Anybody else who wants to write anything about us, please do.
► 02:37:48
We need help.
► 02:37:49
And if you do want to write anything about us, you should definitely mention at the end of the article that we are a couple of...
► 02:37:56
Just, you know, I don't know, policy wonks?
► 02:37:59
Is that right?
► 02:38:00
Yeah.
► 02:38:00
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
► 02:38:02
Thanks for holding.
► 02:38:04
Hello, Alex.
► 02:38:05
I'm a first-time caller.
► 02:38:06
I'm a huge fan.
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I love your work.
