Today, Dan tells Jordan about the happenings of the March 23rd episode of The Alex Jones Show. Topics include: Alex's clearly forced Pizzagate apology Alex Jones possibly losing a friend Is Alex Jones a Time Traveling Documentarian? Does Alex understand children's Bible stories?
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan. | ||
| This is a podcast where we sit around and drink some red wine and have a little conversation about InfoWars, but plot twist. | ||
| What's the plot twist? | ||
| I know a lot about Alex Jones and InfoWars, and I listen to his show every day. | ||
| You do? | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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What about you? | |
| I'm going to tell you something. | ||
| I do not. | ||
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You don't? | |
| I don't think I know anything about Alex Jones. | ||
| You know he's a man. | ||
| He is a man. | ||
| A man. | ||
| He's a really... | ||
| It's really important to him that he's a man. | ||
| He's a man. | ||
| Emphasis on man. | ||
| It's really important to him that he's a white man. | ||
| He lives in occupied Texas, you know that. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And that's about it. | ||
| That's all you really need to know about him. | ||
| That's all I need to know. | ||
| Guys, today we are going to be going over the day in the life of Alex Jones. | ||
| We're going to be going over Thursday, March 23rd. | ||
| On the Alex Jones program where a lot of really fucked up stuff happens and Alex Jones may or may not have lost a friend. | ||
| No! | ||
| He has an interview that we're going to be breaking down in detail that I think might have fallout consequences for him. | ||
| That's our next project is a children's book called... | ||
| Alex loses a friend. | ||
| Because of the fucking globalists! | ||
| There's no doubt the globalists are interwoven in this lack of a friendship. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| But before we get to the episode, before we get to the clips that we're going to play and discuss, I wanted to just take a second to reflect and bask in some Alex Jones-related news that we're not going to be going over. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| The classic what got cut. | ||
| It's not even what got cut. | ||
| Because it's just news that if we didn't talk about... | ||
| Everyone would be like, this is not a legit Alex Jones podcast. | ||
| Yeah, it would be terrible if people thought that of us. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| The Twittersphere would be a flutter. | ||
| The buzz! | ||
| So on Friday of last week, on the 24th, Alex Jones released an in-depth apology to James Alephantis, owner of Comet Ping Pong Pizza, about his involvement in Pizzagate. | ||
| An un... | ||
| Unprecedented apology. | ||
| He still has the tone of like, hey, we were just reporting stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's still being... | ||
| Oh, as we all know, they're just really focused on getting good reporting out there. | ||
| We love the truth. | ||
| And other people were saying this. | ||
| It was viral. | ||
| We're just commenting on it. | ||
| Why are you guys being such bitches about it? | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's kind of his tone. | ||
| But at the same time, the language of his apology... | ||
| I texted you about this before the show. | ||
| I'm certain he's getting sued. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| The way he keeps bringing up James Aliphantus, the way he keeps saying, like, we heard these things. | ||
| The reporters who were talking about it aren't even here anymore. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| We are so sorry. | ||
| We fired those people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That is not unprompted. | ||
| At the very least, got a strongly worded letter. | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| But also, the other thing I wanted to unpack is that a couple months ago, he put out a video on YouTube called The Final Word on Sandy Hook. | ||
| Oh, he's already got the final word out. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which, boy, I'm glad we finally got to the bottom of that. | ||
| Well, he realized that people were attacking him for being a Sandy Hook truther and all this stuff. | ||
| For being a pile of shit. | ||
| Yeah, and so he wanted to put out a video that once and for all spoke his piece about Sandy Hook. | ||
| Was it just him shitting on the concept of grief? | ||
| I wish it was. | ||
| Just a piece of paper with grief written on it as he shits on the desk. | ||
| If he just had a patchwork quilt done, and all of the pieces of it were people who had lost loved ones in tragedies, and he just shit on it. | ||
| No! | ||
| That's what the video should have been. | ||
| Jesus Christ! | ||
| That's the image in my head from now on. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| In reality, what it was was him playing a bunch of circumstantial... | ||
| Bullshit pieces of evidence that Sandy Hook might have been fake. | ||
| And then him at the end being like, this investigation is going to be ongoing. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not the final word. | ||
| How do you? | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah, it's not. | ||
| He lied even in a lie? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| God damn it. | ||
| But it's this trend. | ||
| It's a Chinese nesting doll of lies. | ||
| The Chi-Com nesting doll. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I'm starting to recognize that there are pieces of things that he has said. | ||
| That he's starting to walk back really hard. | ||
| Like, the Pizzagate one is one of them. | ||
| The Sandy Hook thing, he did a bad job of it in that video, but what he's trying to do is, like, distance and something. | ||
| He's trying to be like, yeah, we're just asking questions over here. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| And that means trouble. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, we don't have any clips of him ever apologizing for anything. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| And even the ones where he is saying, you know, I may have gotten something wrong before, he's also always said, But really, I got it right, too. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Look, I was more right than wrong. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, I'm not a perfect man, but I will say that 99% of the time, what we report on is right. | ||
| And frankly, that's probably 100%. | ||
| We round up here. | ||
| His great clip that is in one of our past episodes where he's like, I'm so plugged into the zeitgeist that even when I try to lie, I'm right. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, he's an insane person. | ||
| You fucking douche. | ||
| Anyway, let's get to the 23rd. | ||
| This is gonna be a rollercoaster ride. | ||
| There's going to be a sort of all-over-the-place beginning, then this interview that I mentioned, and then esoteric malaise. | ||
| I have never heard those two words back-to-back before. | ||
| Esoteric malaise? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's in an unpleasant state, but he's also getting real heady with it. | ||
| He's finding ways to have malaise in a very weird and unusual type way. | ||
| Yes, absolutely. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| It's wonderful. | ||
| But that's just sort of a syllabus for what we're about to experience. | ||
| Let's get to this first clip that involves some of these leaks that are going on. | ||
| I'm not talking onions, my friend. | ||
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Oh, God. | |
| And it's even in the Vault 7 leaks. | ||
| That they're targeting President Trump trying to plant Russian software that they've stolen and are using. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| They claim he's working with the Russians. | ||
| You don't think some little hacker in his basement released Vault 7 two weeks ago. | ||
| That was right out of the White House. | ||
| You can bet your bottom dollar. | ||
| Was it? | ||
| Or let's just say allies of the return of the Republic. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| So the Jedi? | ||
| Is that who released it? | ||
| Wait, no, he can't. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
| That's bad what he just said, right? | ||
| Yeah, especially if it turns out that it is Russia who's releasing these things. | ||
| I think it's even worse if it turns out it's the White House who's releasing these things. | ||
| Well, wait, state your case. | ||
| Because how did they, one, how did they get it? | ||
| Probably illegally. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So done. | ||
| We're done. | ||
| We're done right there. | ||
| That's why it's really bad. | ||
| But they're patriots. | ||
| No! | ||
| But he's also already said the Russians are helping us out here. | ||
| That's why he had to stipulate friends who support the return of the Republic. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You have these weird hacker collectives and stuff like that, like the Guccifer 2.0, which I don't know if it's true, but our intelligence community does believe that that is a cutout. | ||
| personality for Russian hackers to use as an intermediary to get the information to Wikileaks. | ||
| Now, if Alex Jones is saying that these people are, like, friends of the return of our republic, he's basically just saying that, like, Putin's helping us restore our republic. | ||
| And that's fucked up. | ||
| Friends of the return of the treason. | ||
| That's treason, right? | ||
| That's treason. | ||
| If you're working with a non-allied power to perform what is essentially a coup, that's, by the definition of words, treason. | ||
| We keep coming back to this thing where you're so hung up on the idea that words have meaning. | ||
| That's a really good point. | ||
| Yeah, I've been meaning to bring this up in our review sessions. | ||
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Yeah, whatever. | |
| Yeah, HR is really pissed at me for believing in the meaning of words. | ||
| After every episode, we sit down and I give you an employee review and you give me an employee review. | ||
| Yeah, yours is, what are you even doing here? | ||
| And mine is, you do all the work, thanks! | ||
| Yours is also, Dan, you have a problem. | ||
| You should talk to more people. | ||
| Well, I didn't want to air our dirty laundry. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Anyway, Alex Jones is... | ||
| In this episode and throughout this last week has been pretty certain, is the right word, I think, that he's being oppressed. | ||
| He's got a real victim complex going on. | ||
| Sure, he's being oppressed. | ||
| And this next clip, he explores a little bit of his thoughts about that. | ||
| And they're openly in the news saying, shut down Alex Jones. | ||
| I was told by high-level sources that, again, just a few months ago, Nancy Pelosi's... | ||
| Had met with the outgoing head of the Justice Department, Loretta Lynch, and demanded I either be sued or demanded I somehow be arrested. | ||
| And she said I can't do it, so they started developing other plans that we'll be obviously seeing emerge soon. | ||
| I'm not going to talk about those yet, but... | ||
| No, she didn't. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| Also, why would you talk to the outgoing? | ||
| Head of the Justice Department. | ||
| Well, because at that point... | ||
| Why would you say to her, because she was already leaving, why would you say to her, like, now that you have zero power, it's time to really go after Alex Jones. | ||
| It's go time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Our master plan was to get you as far away from power as humanly possible. | ||
| That way, what, is she going to infiltrate? | ||
| Yeah, no one suspects the former Attorney General. | ||
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Yep. | |
| There's two things no one expects. | ||
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Spanish Inquisition, former Attorney Generals. | |
| Everybody knows this. | ||
| This is why Janet Reno is currently working for Infowars. | ||
| You don't know it. | ||
| She's not on camera. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| She's a secret mole. | ||
| I believe the premise, as established by Alex here, is that Loretta Lynch wouldn't have stopped being Attorney General had Hillary won. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's obvious. | ||
| And that's when they were making these plans. | ||
| Before Alex Jones was really that important to anybody? | ||
| He was important back then. | ||
| Okay, I apologize. | ||
| No, you're right. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| He got Trump elected. | ||
| Boy, I wish there was less truth in that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, this clip's not done. | ||
| Understand, I officially already in D.C. have Obama and Hillary Clinton out of that command bunker they've got down the street. | ||
| They do not have a command bunker. | ||
| A command bunker that doesn't exist? | ||
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Yeah, okay. | |
| Where is it? | ||
| It doesn't... | ||
| You know where it is? | ||
| It's always down the street. | ||
| Yeah, it's just around the block. | ||
| It's just around the corner. | ||
| Past the McDonald's, it's right over there. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| You know where it exists? | ||
| Inside his little fantasy brain world. | ||
| That's the address. | ||
| Alex Jones' weird fantasy brain world. | ||
| Did a hillbilly caller give him directions? | ||
| Now, boy, howdy, I tell you, the D.C.D.O. | ||
| Department of Transportation is out there, and they tell me that bunkers, there's bunkers. | ||
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Bunkers? | |
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Excuse me, sir, I don't know when you turned into a southern gentleman. | ||
| No, I do declare. | ||
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I do declare, Obama got a bunker now. | |
| They are coming after us, and they don't even hide this up there. | ||
| They want us to know. | ||
| We're coming after you with lawyers. | ||
| Get ready. | ||
| And they're in the Federal Elections Commission already, outside of law, just racketeering, sending letters to Google and letters to other companies saying, you kick off everybody. | ||
| I mean, every libertarian or patriotic or nationalistic news site that I talked to was kicked off AdRoll last month on the same day. | ||
| See? | ||
| Oh, we're not allowed. | ||
| To advertise supplements on the internet or t-shirts because the Federal Elections Commission said so? | ||
| Where are the hearings? | ||
| You don't get a hearing. | ||
| Where are the hearings? | ||
| You don't get a hearing because it's not a legal thing. | ||
| Yeah, capitalism. | ||
| It's a business. | ||
| Capitalism. | ||
| It's a business that you violated their terms of service. | ||
| Yeah, y 'all ever capitalism? | ||
| It's not a good, it's not necessarily the best system, but it is the one that we exist in now, Alex. | ||
| It's well within, especially what libertarians should believe in. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We've been over this a hundred times, his whole ad roll being, I was kicked off because of the FEC narrative is complete nonsense. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| But, that's, like, what he just said is the best. | ||
| Kind of evidence for him being currently issued papers by a lawyer. | ||
| It has to be like he is telling the truth. | ||
| Somebody is issuing him papers. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But it can't just be a pizza joint. | ||
| No. | ||
| Right? | ||
| They're just the front. | ||
| They're just the first wave. | ||
| Pelosi is operating secretly behind him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because if it's just a pizza joint... | ||
| All he warrants is a pizza joint, and that does not give him the inflated self-importance that he needs. | ||
| No, but it is, like, let's just say it is just James Elephantus and Comet Ping Pong that's suing him. | ||
| Because that's the truth. | ||
| Well, we don't know that's the truth. | ||
| It seems like the most likely scenario. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Occam's razor it. | ||
| If that is the case, he's fucked. | ||
| Like, he deserves to be sued. | ||
| And, like, that's a good case. | ||
| Yeah, what would the case be? | ||
| It wouldn't be... | ||
| It can't be libel, can it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, is it libel? | ||
| Hard. | ||
| How does that work? | ||
| What? | ||
| It's defamatory statements that were made through speculation. | ||
| See, but it wasn't them insulting the pizza joint. | ||
| It was them just insisting that the pizza joint was a front for Hillary Clinton to rape children. | ||
| That's not insulting. | ||
| That's not insulting at all! | ||
| That's actually implying that they're very enterprising. | ||
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Exactly! | |
| They've got a second business running out of there. | ||
| You need more revenue streams in this day and age. | ||
| You've got to diversify. | ||
| Oh, of course. | ||
| And if you're the pizza joint that Hillary Clinton picked, man, you must be a great pizza joint, right? | ||
| Clinton only rapes in the finest dungeons. | ||
| God damn it. | ||
| If you go back and look at some of the stuff and some of the statements that were made by employees of Comet Ping Pong and James Elephantus back when this was first starting up, there's a bunch of threats that they got to their business. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Their employees were threatened. | ||
| They had their lives threatened. | ||
| They had a situation where, you know, it became hostile to ever come to work. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| That's actionable. | ||
| Yeah, I agree. | ||
| Now we're actually just discussing a full-on legal briefing. | ||
| This has become an episode of Handle on the Law. | ||
| Boston Legal. | ||
| But wouldn't it be the originator of the claim? | ||
| Alex Jones has never originated an idea. | ||
| Other than the ones that he's just making up. | ||
| So maybe he did make this one. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm not sure how that would work, but I know that he is incredibly guilty of perpetuating it. | ||
| Oh yeah, he gave it the biggest platform you could. | ||
| He had, like there was this guy named Jack Posobiec, who's a complete monster. | ||
| Made up name from Star Wars. | ||
| He spent like an entire evening videotaping himself going to Comet Ping Pong and Comet, or what's the other one, Besta Pizza. | ||
| They're two pizza places on the same block. | ||
| With competing rape dungeons? | ||
| Yep, absolutely. | ||
| Well, they're all in the mix. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| They're all in it together. | ||
| So he went and... | ||
| Weird business model. | ||
| Weird business model. | ||
| He videotaped himself going into Best of Pizza and nothing happened. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Nothing happened. | ||
| There was nothing weird. | ||
| And then as soon as he left, he's like, oh, it's so fucking weird in there. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| You can just feel it. | ||
| Like a Ghost Hunters show. | ||
| Like, oh, I can feel it. | ||
| It just got colder. | ||
| RKMF readers were off the charts. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So then he goes to Comet Ping Pong and he tries to order some food. | ||
| Everyone's treating him real nice. | ||
| He goes in. | ||
| He's trying to live stream it. | ||
| And one of the waiters realizes what's going on, that this guy is videotaping himself eating at their place. | ||
| That's not a coincidence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Especially while all this Pizzagate stuff is going on. | ||
| So the waiter comes over and explains, my employees have been threatened. | ||
| Do you understand that you're helping perpetuate something that is really damaging to people? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Just people who are trying to live their lives and... | ||
| Not just my business, but the... | ||
| Lives of people. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Once a guy starts bringing guns places, that's a physical threat. | ||
| Well, that's a different guy. | ||
| This is before that. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's the same. | ||
| But this is why I think it helps build the case that Alex is going to get sued. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So Jack Posobiec goes in. | ||
| This guy explains to him that people have been threatened and it's no joke. | ||
| It's not a laughing matter. | ||
| And he's like, I'm just trying to, you know, I always tape everything I do. | ||
| I'm trying to eat at dinner. | ||
| And he's like, come on. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's not what's going on. | ||
| The guy, there's an off-duty cop there, and they just escort him out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he's like, everything was fucking weird in there. | ||
| I'm surprised he didn't claim to be a cop himself, right? | ||
| That's your move. | ||
| Posobiec? | ||
| Yeah, that's your move. | ||
| You go in there, and you're like, uh, actually. | ||
| Deep undercover. | ||
| Actually, I am a cop. | ||
| I'm Serpico. | ||
| Yeah, I'm trying to figure this shit out, man. | ||
| Well, he didn't pull that. | ||
| He left, and then he was like, everything was demonic in there. | ||
| You could just get a feeling. | ||
| There's a back room. | ||
| There were kids running in and out of it. | ||
| What's going on here? | ||
| Didn't show any of that in his video. | ||
| Probably just making shit up. | ||
| Kids running in and out of it. | ||
| I watched the entire, like, two hour long live stream that he posted. | ||
| Because you're an insane person. | ||
| Because I'm nuts. | ||
| You're a lunatic. | ||
| There's nothing in it. | ||
| And then, like, the next day, he's on Infowars. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Being interviewed about what he experienced. | ||
| And what he found at the pizza place. | ||
| He's lying his tits off. | ||
| He says a bunch of stuff that didn't happen in the videos, but they know no one's going to go watch the whole videos. | ||
| It's two hours long. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| You're the only person who watched the whole video. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| So they interview him on that. | ||
| Alex does say that someone should go check it out. | ||
| Someone should go investigate it. | ||
| Flash forward a very short time. | ||
| Guy shows up with a gun. | ||
| Drove from out of state to go investigate this pizza place. | ||
| Shoots a bullet in the place. | ||
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Whoa! | |
| He did? | ||
| Yeah, he fired. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| I didn't know he fired. | ||
| He fired the gun. | ||
| I don't think he shot it at anybody, but I think he shot it at the ground. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Yosemite Sam came from Oklahoma to bother a pizza joint. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, Alex isn't wholly responsible for all this turn of events, but he had his hand in playing a part of it. | ||
| He should be sued. | ||
| Dave Seaman should be sued. | ||
| A bunch of other of these ding-dong assholes. | ||
| They really should be sued. | ||
| They've caused a lot of damage to people's lives. | ||
| Well, I mean, you've got loss of revenue, you've got, you know, threats on people's lives. | ||
| I believe in free speech wholeheartedly, but I don't believe in libel, and I don't believe in threats. | ||
| You don't believe either of those things are real? | ||
| No, I believe they're real, but I don't think they're protected. | ||
| I don't believe that you can get away with those things. | ||
| Well, yeah, neither does the law. | ||
| That's why those words exist. | ||
| So I believe that this, what I've just laid out for you, is the reason that Alex is probably going to get sued. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I also believe that the reason that he's being investigated, as he puts it in that last clip, is not because people think he's a Russian spy. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's because there are Russian bots that are specifically promoting his content. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And the question that the FBI is apparently asking, according to the articles that I've read, is, is there coordination? | ||
| Is there a collaborative thing going on where these Russian bots promote Infowars content? | ||
| And then secondarily, is there any influence from Russian sources? | ||
| Into Alex's reporting. | ||
| And you would say, like, I would say normally there's no way there's collusion or collaboration just because you wouldn't even need to talk to Alex. | ||
| If you gave him more attention, he'd just be like, hooray! | ||
| And never ask questions. | ||
| But he did go on RT. | ||
| He did. | ||
| He did go on RT. | ||
| And he went on Alexander Dugan's show. | ||
| And Alexander Dugan's been on his show. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, there isn't nothing there. | ||
| See, and I would say it's probably more Alex just having both naked self-interest and just needing his father's love. | ||
| That's really what that all is. | ||
| Too busy with the teeth, that dentist. | ||
| He just needs his father's love. | ||
| He's got great teeth, but he doesn't have his dad's love. | ||
| I don't think that Alex himself is being investigated for anything he's done. | ||
| I believe that he is a piece of the investigation. | ||
| Because his propaganda is being pushed by Russian bots. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I believe, from everything I've read, that that is what the articles are about and what the FBI investigation is about. | ||
| Alex has turned this into, I am being called a Russian agent and they're trying to attack me. | ||
| Well, and that's a great narrative for him to push because that's turned into also the argument from even people on the left where it's like, well, I don't support them shutting down any kind of news or anything like that. | ||
| And you're like, well, one, not the story. | ||
| No. | ||
| Two, he's propaganda. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I don't think he should be shut down. | ||
| No. | ||
| I just think we should roundly mock him until he quits. | ||
| And sue him for libel until he's broke. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If he does do those things, he should be sued for them. | ||
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But anyway. | |
| These are the reasons that I think people are attacking Alex. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Alex has other ideas about why people are attacking him. | ||
| So many possibilities. | ||
| Why do they want to shut InfoWars down? | ||
| We told you 18 years ago they've got cameras and microphones hidden in major devices and are watching and listening to you for controlling thought content and knowing what you're doing and selling data to advertising agencies to then control... | ||
| The hopes and dreams of society. | ||
| Which is now even more legal. | ||
| We told you that they were spying on the president and they tried to lie about it and now it's been exposed. | ||
| We told you they're preparing a civil emergency and martial law and a civil war. | ||
| Now they're all over the news, openly calling for the cities to begin to burn and for the president to be murdered or the president to be, you know, dragged out in chains. | ||
| That's not political speech. | ||
| That's calls for military. | ||
| Insurrection and warfare against the republic. | ||
| And they've got the former deputy head of the defense department running around in policy papers like foreign affairs and foreign policy and all these other globalist publications and going to the Pentagon and saying, you can pull it up, former deputy head of the defense department calling for military coup against Trump. | ||
| That person should be arrested and then indicted the next day. | ||
| For organized insurrection in the country, outside of law, to foment a military mutiny and rebellion against the taxpayers, citizens of this country. | ||
| But wait. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| But didn't he say earlier that that was okay? | ||
| Didn't he? | ||
| As long as they were... | ||
| As long as they were... | ||
| For Trump? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Didn't he just condemn the very thing that he said was perfectly fine? | ||
| The last months of his show have been about how the rogue forces within the CIA have performed a counter-coup. | ||
| Against liberals. | ||
| Right, but I thought we already had the counter-counter coup, so this is the third coup. | ||
| We're in the middle of the counter-counter coup. | ||
| We're in the middle of the counter-counter coup. | ||
| Man, I cannot keep track of all these coups. | ||
| We might find out later that there's a fourth coup. | ||
| We need a coup tracker. | ||
| Yeah, we do. | ||
| Let's get an app. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Can you code? | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, we're fucked. | ||
| All I can do, we'll just send out a mass text every time there's a counter-coup. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, also, I... | ||
| Because Alex keeps talking about globalist publications, I've subscribed to foreign policy. | ||
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And I've started reading it. | |
| You're losing your mind. | ||
| I'm a wonk! | ||
| You're a wonk now. | ||
| I started reading foreign policy all the time. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And I check in on it every day. | ||
| This narrative he's spinning is not in there. | ||
| But what I did read is a very fascinating article about Sebastian Gorka. | ||
| Oh, yeah! | ||
| He's a bad dude! | ||
| He's a Nazi! | ||
| Theoretically a sworn Nazi! | ||
| He's a Nazi! | ||
| But this article was, we don't want to take a stance on whether or not he is a Nazi, but what I can do is review his dissertation. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| So the one where he... | ||
| Probably espouses Nazi ideas? | ||
| No, it's about terrorism, counter-terrorism stuff. | ||
| And the guy who is a doctoral advisor, so he's used to reviewing people's dissertations, was just going on and on, just fucking taking the piss out of him for how unscholarly it was. | ||
| He only cites like four sources. | ||
| Clearly didn't read many books. | ||
| Wonderful. | ||
| Then it goes on to explain that like... | ||
| He is one of Trump's counterterrorism advisors. | ||
| He's pretty high up there. | ||
| And he has no experience and almost no published work outside of his dissertation about counterterrorism. | ||
| It's like, that's bad. | ||
| That's bad, right? | ||
| That's the kind of stuff that's in foreign policy. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| Don't you want, like... | ||
| Now, I'm... | ||
| Look. | ||
| I'm listening. | ||
| I could be crazy. | ||
| Wouldn't you want, like, an expert? | ||
| I think for an advisor position you'd want an expert. | ||
| Especially for like a counter-terrorism thing. | ||
| When that seems to be a pretty hot topic. | ||
| Yeah, why would you hire just a random dude? | ||
| Weirdo Nazi Gorka? | ||
| What's your counter-terrorism idea? | ||
| Kill the Jews! | ||
| Ah, you're a Nazi. | ||
| There it is, you're a Nazi. | ||
| I knew it. | ||
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Damn, my anti-Semitic Tourette's got the best of me. | |
| I'm always trying not to Nazi. | ||
| So this next clip is what I would describe as a tease for our next episode. | ||
| A tease for a tease. | ||
| If you guys want to get excited about what our next episode is going to be about, it's a lot of this. | ||
| The good news is Nunes comes out and just says, look, I mean, I've had a lot of people come to me in the intelligence agencies and then Trump was being spied on. | ||
| Not true. | ||
| This is a huge narrative that Alex spun for the entirety of the last week. | ||
| Really? | ||
| But none of it's true. | ||
| I can prove it. | ||
| And I'm going to on our next episode. | ||
| You can prove that he spun the narrative the whole week? | ||
| No, I can prove that it's all lies. | ||
| Oh, well it is all lies. | ||
| And I found out where it came from. | ||
| Oh shit! | ||
| Yep. | ||
| This is big. | ||
| Big stuff. | ||
| So anyway, get excited for our next episode. | ||
| But also, enjoy the rest of this one, you ding-dongs. | ||
| Why did you just get passive-aggressive? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Because we've been sick. | ||
| We haven't done this in a week. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| We're a half hour in. | ||
| We're figuring our legs back again. | ||
| Let's take a sip of this wine. | ||
| Let's cheers. | ||
| You're just being mean about it. | ||
| I'm not being mean. | ||
| You know what it is? | ||
| I'm getting insecure that people are going to turn this off because next episode is going to be so great. | ||
| Yeah, that sounds about right. | ||
| Also, because the beginning of this episode is so fucking disjointed. | ||
| Like, the stuff he's talking about doesn't track from A to B. There's just so much, like, all-over-the-place stuff. | ||
| Yeah, he doesn't have the kind of more, or maybe he's just not capable of doing the longer narrative right now. | ||
|
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Well, we'll hit it. | |
| Because he's being attacked on so many different... | ||
| Angles, right? | ||
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It's true. | |
| We'll hit a coherent narrative probably around an hour and a half into this podcast. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| I'm glad to hear it. | ||
| But until then, I want Alex... | ||
| Which is now a tease. | ||
| Now people are going to just press pause and then fast forward to the hour and a half mark. | ||
| Have you ever watched any of Alex Jones' documentaries, sir? | ||
| I have not. | ||
| I have watched a lot of them. | ||
| How are you still alive? | ||
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I... | |
| Look, I... | ||
| I used to be a... | ||
| Oh, now I see it. | ||
| There are four locks on the door and you haven't gone outside in Monsters in days. | ||
| I was outside yesterday. | ||
| I went to work. | ||
| Your beard has a bone in it. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That was just his Bam Bam stuff. | ||
|
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You know what I'm saying? | |
| Okay. | ||
| It's the new fashion style. | ||
| Or is it Pebbles? | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| Anyway, I've watched The Obama Deception. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I've watched a number of other ones. | ||
| That's my favorite Bourne movie. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I should have brought back Matt Damon in blackface. | ||
| Hey, what are you going to do? | ||
| Idris Elba was bad casting. | ||
| That's my racist James Bond fan character. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| So he had a documentary, in quotes, called End Game. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Road to Tyranny. | ||
| Ooh. | ||
| Now. | ||
| Is that a chess documentary? | ||
| Yeah, I wish it was. | ||
| And he'd get Kasparov in there to make fun of him. | ||
| Boris Fosky is in there? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex has some... | ||
| He says something in this next clip that is undefensible. | ||
| Enjoy. | ||
| So again, we've told you right down the line, because we actually studied this, and I don't say this to brag. | ||
| I say it because I've read the end of the book. | ||
| No, you haven't. | ||
| I know where they want to take us. | ||
| I know what their endgame is. | ||
| They even have a project called Endgame that's a martial law takeover plan that they declassified two years after it was created. | ||
| Three years after my film Endgame came out. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Strangely enough. | ||
| Strangely enough, he made a documentary about this program a year before it was created. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What did he just say? | ||
| He's an idiot. | ||
| It was declassified two years. | ||
| After they created the program. | ||
| After they created the program. | ||
| And then three years after his documentary. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So, what... | ||
| Using math. | ||
| What Alex Jones is saying... | ||
| Is that maybe the entire program was his fault in the first place. | ||
| Alex Jones says sooth. | ||
| Yeah, he just gave them an idea. | ||
| He did the whole endgame like, this is what they're doing, and they're like, maybe we should do that. | ||
| That sounds pretty good. | ||
| Yeah, that doesn't sound like a bad idea. | ||
| Also, buried within that complete impossibility that he... | ||
| Time machine. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Twelve dimensional beings! | ||
| Him and Andrew Basiago. | ||
| There is no impossibilities in our world. | ||
| Fine. | ||
| So, unlikely. | ||
| Eddie Bravo is coming back. | ||
| Unlikely that he created this documentary a year before that program. | ||
| I'll give you that. | ||
| Also unlikely. | ||
| The government creates... | ||
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An endgame for global enslavement program. | |
| Right. | ||
| Then declassifies it two years later. | ||
| Why wouldn't you declassify it? | ||
| There's no damaging information there. | ||
| You want that out in the public sphere. | ||
| It's like, all right. | ||
| You want them to know the bullet they dodged. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| We could have totally endgamed you, but we didn't, bro. | ||
| We started. | ||
| We'll even give it to you. | ||
| We put it in foreign policy. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Nobody reads that shit. | ||
| Except stupid-ass Dan. | ||
| Except Dan. | ||
| He's mostly distracted by articles about Gorka. | ||
| They're going to start just talking directly to you in foreign policy articles, right? | ||
| They're going to be like, Dan, I'm telling you, you're going to love researching this. | ||
| Real talk? | ||
| I think that's what Alex thinks is going on. | ||
| So, I mean, I hope it doesn't happen to me, because otherwise I've got to move to Texas. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| I don't want to do that. | ||
| So yeah, I think that the idea that the government would be like, alright, we're going to shut everything down, we're going to enslave everybody. | ||
| Alright, two years is enough of a head start. | ||
| We got everything pretty much in place. | ||
| Let's just fucking declassify this. | ||
| Nothing they can do about it now. | ||
| What was the meeting like? | ||
| Alright, so here's what we're gonna do. | ||
| We're gonna declare martial law. | ||
| And then we're going to take over all the cities, burn them down. | ||
| Because that's not where the patriots live. | ||
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No. | |
| They're in their liberal bubbles. | ||
| We've got to kill them. | ||
| Patriots are out in the sticks. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| We all know patriots only live one to an entire estate. | ||
| They live in BFE, as they say. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This is a great plan. | ||
| And then two years later, they're like, you know what? | ||
| I don't think this was a great plan, guys. | ||
| Guys, I think we fucked the dog on this one. | ||
| But... | ||
| How about we just tell everyone ever that this was our bad plan? | ||
| Yeah, oh, that's a great idea. | ||
| That's a great idea, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We want to be honest and transparent like we all know the intelligence community always is. | ||
| That narrative you just spun right there is more entertaining than endgame path for global deception, enslavement, whatever. | ||
| Alex's stupid documentary. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| How long is the documentary? | ||
| Oh, fucking long. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| Are we talking... | ||
| How many Titanics long is it? | ||
| I say... | ||
| Is it two Titanics long? | ||
| Six. | ||
| Six Titanics long? | ||
| No, that's an exaggeration. | ||
| That's a long Titanic. | ||
| I think that if people donate to the show, one of the things we should do is to... | ||
| You are turning into Alex so hard. | ||
| Listen, if you subscribe now... | ||
| To our man pills. | ||
| No, no, no, no pills. | ||
| No pills. | ||
| But if people were to subscribe and donate, we would do a wasted commentary of Alex Jones' films. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| A full-on MST3K on Alex Jones? | ||
| That'd be good. | ||
| I think that might be fun. | ||
| Here's an idea. | ||
| Anyway, look. | ||
| It's time for a newsflash. | ||
| I don't know if you're ready for it. | ||
| Newsflash! | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, let me give you a little newsflash. | ||
| I don't like how deep I am into this at a certain level, okay? | ||
| But let me just tell you something. | ||
| I've seen stuff hardly anybody else has seen. | ||
| I've seen stuff barely anybody's ever seen. | ||
| I don't even like having the responsibility of being the only truth teller in the world. | ||
| It's a calling. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| This isn't to brag. | ||
| No, no brag. | ||
| I'd like to fully say that I believe that he's seen stuff that almost nobody's seen. | ||
| I think it's been entirely in his head, though. | ||
| But no, I think he's seen very specific forgeries. | ||
| I think he's seen frauds that have specifically targeted him because they know he just believes anything. | ||
| And not just that. | ||
| He has seen the future. | ||
| As we can tell right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He has worked it out. | ||
| He's just reverse engineered it. | ||
| That's what he did with the endgame thing, man. | ||
| He reverse engineered it. | ||
| He knew inevitably the government would both create this program. | ||
| That has the same name as his documentary. | ||
| Then declassify it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, where else? | ||
| That's why he named it what it is. | ||
| What an asshole. | ||
| I mean, you now. | ||
| Oh, fair enough. | ||
| I'm just kidding. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| He's not done. | ||
| I'm not just here on air talking about this stuff. | ||
| Where are you? | ||
| They've got displays and systems that are AI run where the computer itself, you just target the person, there's a whole map of everything they do, every device they've got, and that machine tries to hammer in and break into everything you've got. | ||
| It's normally already broken in, and then they've got microscopic capacitors in the chips for at least six years that are microscopic microphones, and that's been in the news. | ||
| What? | ||
| That data transferred over cable, And over wireless and over power lines is just scooping it all up. | ||
| He does not know what any of this stuff means. | ||
| And that's stuff I knew about 15 years ago. | ||
| He's known for 15 years stuff that they would start doing 9 years later. | ||
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That they can't do now! | |
| He's known for 15 years the stuff that they're not doing. | ||
| No, no, but this goes back to that, like, it's not stupid to think that someone's microwave is listening to them because there's chips inside them with little micro microphones. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why would you do that? | ||
| We've got microphones everywhere. | ||
| Also, hey, bro. | ||
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Hey, bro. | |
| Hey, bro. | ||
| That would be cost prohibitive. | ||
| That would be cost prohibitive. | ||
| The idea of putting... | ||
| Tiny microphones. | ||
| Is it bacteria? | ||
| How are they spreading? | ||
| Do they have guys just running in with fucking power washers of microphones on everything? | ||
| No, it goes in the factories, they put these chips in, and then whenever they want to, the government can remotely turn them on and start listening in to you through your toaster and shit. | ||
| But they can remotely turn on your phone and start listening to you through that. | ||
| Right, but this was... | ||
| Six years ago, before cell phones, my argument has fallen apart. | ||
| That does not make any sense. | ||
| Why would you build a microscopic microphone? | ||
| That makes no sense. | ||
| Also, how would you build a microscopic microphone, also that has a transmitter that can send things to you, and a power source? | ||
| Also problematic in the idea that, like, let's say it's in your microwave. | ||
| Let's start from the microphone being in your microwave. | ||
| When you turn on your microwave, it makes a lot of noise. | ||
| Don't do that! | ||
| It makes a lot of noise. | ||
| Don't even bother. | ||
| Nobody turns their microwave on. | ||
| You can't spy on me when I'm cooking. | ||
| How about that, government? | ||
| What now? | ||
| But then... | ||
| Classic, classic knowledge fight. | ||
| You can't spy on me when I'm cooking. | ||
| You're only going to get to hear what I say in the kitchen. | ||
| No, they got microscopic microphones in your TV. | ||
| In your microwave? | ||
| In your toaster? | ||
| In your blender? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| In your old-timey type blender with the crank? | ||
| I think that this is just... | ||
| Your bottle opener? | ||
| This is just Alex trying to force us back to the farmhouse that he wishes we all lived in. | ||
| No electronics! | ||
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Ooh. | |
| That might be... | ||
| That's the only way for us to survive. | ||
| It's the only way we'll be safe. | ||
| Hey, you wouldn't even know that the Endgame is coming because you couldn't see his documentary, though. | ||
|
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True. | |
| There's the problem. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a double-edged sword. | ||
| You're gonna get killed either way. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Anyway, you know, you and I are millennials. | ||
| You know that, right? | ||
| I've heard. | ||
| Yeah, we're millennials. | ||
| Turns out the globalists have a plan for us. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| A lot of people in other generations... | ||
| Don't like us. | ||
| No, it's very true. | ||
| It's strange. | ||
| Alex is one of them. | ||
| I'm sure that it's never happened to any other generation in the history that other generations haven't liked them. | ||
| Certainly not. | ||
| I guarantee that you have never heard the same things people said about us applied to any other generation before. | ||
| I will say this. | ||
| I don't think that other generations have had this specific charge levied at them. | ||
| Let's see what it is. | ||
| Their language is small. | ||
| All right. | ||
| They're restricted. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| They're like, you know, kids trying to act cool in junior high and, you know, getting little clicks. | ||
| I mean, just imagine that times ten, and that's the elitist system they're building and the type of minions they want to be one of the last generations and wipe almost everybody out. | ||
| They're just getting the containment grids up, getting us in cities, getting the police forces in place, getting the robots in place, and getting us totally domesticated before they hammer down and then boom! | ||
| The agreements have been made. | ||
| They're going to wipe out 90% of the Chinese, 90% of the folks in Africa, Latin America, and the West is going to have big death, too. | ||
| But these are race-specific. | ||
| And China's agreed to all of this, by the way. | ||
| Why? | ||
| And then they're going to start releasing the bioweapons. | ||
| After they killed 90% of the people, then they're going to release bioweapons? | ||
| They kill the Ice Age mutants. | ||
| That's white people. | ||
| People say, oh, yeah, you're a mutant. | ||
| That's what the black nationalists say. | ||
| Yeah, so are you. | ||
| Everybody mutates. | ||
| Everybody's different. | ||
| So you have all the different groups and variations and the rest of it. | ||
| But that's what's going on. | ||
| Through that mutation point he made there at the end, he's kind of supporting the theory of evolution. | ||
| Or eugenics. | ||
| Or just, he's making an argument against an argument that no one has made. | ||
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Which is? | |
| I like how he's already got, like, oh, white people are Ice Age mutants. | ||
| We all know this. | ||
| And he's like, uh-uh. | ||
| You're a mutant. | ||
| Like, what is he talking about? | ||
| Let's be fair. | ||
| There is a group called the 5% Nation, the Nation of Gods and Earths, which is a shoot-off of Afrocentric Islam. | ||
| They were a branch out of Malcolm X's church because they didn't think he was extreme enough. | ||
| There's a guy named Clarence 13X. | ||
| I like him a lot. | ||
| Also known as Pudding because his words were so smooth. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Now... | ||
| Seriously. | ||
| I am a huge fan of his. | ||
| The Wu-Tang Clan... | ||
| You have gotten me on board. | ||
| The Wu-Tang Clan are adherents of the nation of gods and earths, 5% nation. | ||
| All of them? | ||
| Yeah, you can hear it in a lot of their raps. | ||
| They talk about, like, I fear for the 85 that don't have a clue. | ||
| There's just references to that religious group throughout all of their history. | ||
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Okay. | |
| The 85 is... | ||
| The 5% nation is based on the idea that there's 5% of the population that knows the truth and actively tries to wake up the population. | ||
| That is 85% of the population that is deaf, dumb, and blind and doesn't know the truth. | ||
| Then there's 10% of the population that knows the truth and actively seeks to try and keep the 85 down. | ||
| That's bad numbers. | ||
| It's bad numbers. | ||
| We're outnumbered two to one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are we one of them, or no? | ||
| No, we're bad. | ||
| We're bad? | ||
| We're probably bad. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Wait, we're part of the bad 10%? | ||
| Or the 85%? | ||
| It depends. | ||
| It depends. | ||
| I feel like that's not a good answer. | ||
| We could be either, depending on what we're doing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| In the original conception of the 5% Nation, their belief, the truth that the 85% is deaf, dumb, and blind to is that the black man is God. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And that Allah means arm, leg, leg, arm, head, the composition of the black man. | ||
| Wait. | ||
| Which is also the composition of a white man, but be that as a man. | ||
| Wait, wait. | ||
| Arm, leg, leg, arm, head. | ||
| Yeah, Allah. | ||
| That's what Allah means. | ||
| It's a representation for your body. | ||
| But why would they use that word? | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Well, isn't that a... | ||
| Well, it's a repurposing of Islamic beliefs. | ||
| Well, yeah, but aren't those really old? | ||
| Yeah, they are. | ||
| They are. | ||
| So they just figured this out? | ||
| No, listen. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I have a lot of questions. | ||
| I've done a lot of research into the 5% Nation because I think they're fascinating. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And actually... | ||
| Well, I'm fascinated. | ||
| As time has gone on, there's a lot more liberalism to it, and it's not so racist. | ||
| But in its original conception, it was racist. | ||
| And one of their beliefs that they held was that white people were created in a lab by an evil scientist named Yacoub. | ||
| Oh, that one I know. | ||
| That one I know. | ||
| Because that one, while not being plausible, does kind of explain why any time you read a history book and you get to the statement, And then the white man came, you're like, oh no. | ||
| This is bad foreshadowing. | ||
| But that kind of is the black nationalist bent that Alex is talking about when he talks about white people being Ice Age mutants. | ||
| And stuff like that. | ||
| Wait, Yacoub made us in the Ice Age? | ||
| Yeah, way back. | ||
| Well, I'm on board. | ||
| This sounds as reasonable as anything else we've heard so far today. | ||
| That's one of the examples of the type of stuff that Alex is arguing against. | ||
| So I'm just saying... | ||
| That it's not a non-argument that he's arguing against. | ||
| It's just a very unprecedented one. | ||
| It's a magnificent argument he's arguing against. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, a lot of people are going to die, and then we're going to release bioweapons. | ||
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Gotcha. | |
| Sweet. | ||
| Done. | ||
| I'm in. | ||
| So we're going to get to this interview. | ||
| We kill 90%, then we release the bioweapons. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Why would you do that after the 90%? | ||
| Maybe the bioweapons wouldn't be effective enough. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't believe him. | ||
| Stop looking at me. | ||
| Stop staring at me like that. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I just want any kind of thing to hang on to there. | ||
| There was such a look from you that scared the shit out of me. | ||
| I want any kind of handhold because that makes not just no sense. | ||
| The Chinese have agreed to it. | ||
| Opposite sense. | ||
| And who... | ||
| Which? | ||
| All the Chinese agreed to it? | ||
| All of them. | ||
| All of them. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The Chi-Coms are on board. | ||
| We got that signed. | ||
| We got that in documentation because we're going to need it in the eventual court case of the history of humanity. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So we're going to get to this interview. | ||
| But first, before we do, Alex wants to do a deep dive into analysis about the attack on London's parliament that happened. | ||
| The middle of last week? | ||
| I bet it totally has nothing with his hatred of Islam. | ||
| We're going to find out. | ||
| So see, this is what I'm getting at for you. | ||
| They think you're so dumb that they have a jihadi run over a bunch of people and stab a bunch of people and our news will barely even say it's Islamic. | ||
| And in England, they're going around saying it's hate, don't do it. | ||
| And I was watching footage this morning online of just thousands of Muslim men. | ||
| Yesterday and today, out celebrating and with so much hate in their eyes and their mouths open and their teeth showing like a murderous horde of zombies. | ||
| And I'm supposed to go, oh, I love you. | ||
| Come on in. | ||
| Oh, I don't want to be mean. | ||
| Sure, kill me. | ||
| I'm guessing that what he saw was a bunch of, like, B-roll. | ||
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Did he? | |
| Can we find any footage? | ||
| I can't. | ||
| No. | ||
| But also, it's fascinating. | ||
| Mouths open. | ||
| Teeth showing. | ||
| He has like a primate thing going on there. | ||
| They showed their teeth. | ||
| That's a sign of aggression. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That makes sense in his worldview. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| But this is fascinating to me. | ||
| Because as we all know, pussies never show their teeth. | ||
| Nah, except for that movie. | ||
| Except for that one movie where the pussy had... | ||
| Vagina dentata? | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| So I think it's interesting that Alex is so bent out of shape about this compared to... | ||
| How people in London are dealing with it, which was, this sucks, it's tragedy, but let's go about our lives. | ||
| It sucks that this guy died, or a couple people died, but we move on. | ||
| The classic Whoville solution. | ||
| Something bad happens, you know what? | ||
| Let's all come together. | ||
| Let's not let this tear us apart. | ||
| No, whereas Alex is super into, let's call them jihadis and really demonize Islam. | ||
| By saying that all of these other Muslims were celebrating it, kind of making it seem like it's a big, all of them are happy about it. | ||
| They're lying to you when they say that they're not terrorists. | ||
| Well, as we all know, if you see a thousand people doing something, that's representative of two billion people doing everything. | ||
| We all know that. | ||
| And at press time, Alex has still not apologized or recognized. | ||
| That guy who shot up a mosque in Quebec was a white dude. | ||
| He reported it that it was a Muslim and will not correct himself. | ||
| How? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So this gets back to our General Flynn situation where now there's blood and water. | ||
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Hold on. | |
| Is it a General Flynn situation or is it a General Flynn situation? | ||
| We have a generalized Flynn situation. | ||
| It's actually a General Finn situation. | ||
| It's all about the Finnish people and what they've done. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| No, the blood and the water thing, right? | ||
| So once we got one Trump person down, now we're going after more and more and more, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Once we get one Alex Jones apology... | ||
| Pizzagate. | ||
| Oh, it's all coming down. | ||
| He's going to have to apologize for tons of shit. | ||
| I'm hoping. | ||
| That would be amazing. | ||
| Every episode, a new apology. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| I don't think we have... | ||
| What a brave new world we live in. | ||
| I think if he apologized for everything he should apologize for, we would be long dead before we covered it all. | ||
| It would be a lot of episodes. | ||
| He's been on air for 23 years. | ||
| He's got a lot. | ||
| He's got to go, hey, you know what? | ||
| We fucked up on that one. | ||
| Anyway, here's some more stuff. | ||
| This is Knowledge Fight. | ||
| We're doing April 24th episode. | ||
| It is just a long series of apologies. | ||
| I would love that. | ||
| That's my birthday. | ||
| That would be a great present if Alex Jones just apologized for an entire show. | ||
| That would be fun. | ||
| So he has more thoughts about this London attack, and he cites what I can only describe as a super scientific approach to statistics, figuring out what's going on. | ||
| I don't trust you. | ||
| On Al Jazeera's official feed. | ||
| On Facebook, thousands of emojis celebrating it, screenshot in live time. | ||
| For every frowny face, there are like ten smiley faces, and it went on for hours. | ||
| And for every thumbs down, there's not even one thumbs down on that page. | ||
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Look at that. | |
| Not one thumbs down. | ||
| Thumbs up, baby. | ||
| Thumbs up, baby! | ||
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For every frowny face, there is ten smiley faces! | |
| So you know how when you're broadcasting live on Facebook, it shows the responses cascading across the screen? | ||
| He has a screenshot of a lot of happy faces covering the London attack. | ||
| One of the things that Alex doesn't take into account is that things like 4chan exist. | ||
| Can we play that one more time? | ||
| No. | ||
| I want to hear that. | ||
| We're going to have to wait for the episode. | ||
| So many times. | ||
| You're going to have to wait to listen back. | ||
| But for every frowny face... | ||
| There's ten smiles. | ||
| There's ten smiley faces. | ||
| If Morgan Freeman did that, it'd be amazing. | ||
| He does not recognize that there are internet brigades that troll things. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I would not be super surprised, I have no evidence of this, but I wouldn't be surprised if there were a bunch of people... | ||
| Who put on a message board, let's all go brigade this Al Jazeera report and make it look like everyone's happy about this. | ||
| You can't make brigade a verb. | ||
| I refuse. | ||
| I refuse! | ||
| Alright, the motion passes. | ||
| But anyway, they brigaded. | ||
| You son of a bitch! | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I can't prove that that's true and I'm not going to pore over message board histories to find any evidence of that. | ||
| Well, what you're doing is predicting the eventual book Charge of the Internet Brigade. | ||
| Fantastic book. | ||
| Brigading the Internet. | ||
| That's right out for you. | ||
| But, I mean, basically what you have there is a plausible explanation for why that might be the case outside of Alex's argument, which is all Muslims are super thrilled about this attack. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think that's true. | ||
| And I don't think you can prove that those smiley faces were coming from Muslim people, you dumb fuck. | ||
| Not yet. | ||
| I was talking to Alex. | ||
| Is there any... | ||
| Is there any... | ||
| Could you imagine any way to prove that? | ||
| Like, any possible... | ||
| Not within Alex Jones' sort of investigative journalism techniques, no. | ||
| Yeah, other than tracking every single one of those likes down and putting together a full personal history of each of those people. | ||
| You would almost need an NSA-style database in order to do that. | ||
| Yeah, you would have to gather a lot of metadata to figure that shit out. | ||
| You definitely would. | ||
| Ah, I know he's Muslim because I know he goes to temple five times a day to pray. | ||
| And I know that because I've been following all of his, who cares? | ||
| Listen, it's time to get to this interview. | ||
| It's time to get serious. | ||
| Where everything takes a turn. | ||
| This is an interview with one Dr. Steve Pachenik. | ||
| Dr. Pachenik. | ||
| Who, as we have documented in the past, does not really believe in Sandy Hook. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| Which is a big strike against him. | ||
| He's a bad person. | ||
| He is the guy who's responsible for the counter-coup narrative that Alex has been pitching for about the last year. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I got a lot of red flags on Steve Pachanek. | ||
| A lot of them. | ||
| More than those two? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I want to say... | ||
| Do you need more than those two? | ||
| No. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Today, I'm into him. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| His interview today, he's trying to make two points. | ||
| And Alex won't let him. | ||
| And it's an hour-long interview. | ||
| Basically. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| That's classic Alex. | ||
| Just to indicate where Alex's head was at when the interview was about to start, I'm going to play his introduction, where he gives Steve Pachanek's credits, and then tries to introduce the topics he'd like to talk about. | ||
| And we'll see how that goes. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| All right. | ||
| He co-wrote books of Tom Clancy, an Hollywood producer, also one of the founders of Delta Force, involved the State Department and other agencies, encountered terrorism and regime change. | ||
| Everybody knows who he is. | ||
| Dr. Steve Pachenik. | ||
| StevePachenik.com joins us until the bottom of the hour. | ||
| Then I promise I'm getting to all these clips on this confirmation hearings going on when I got to say this judge that has been nominated by Trump is just destroying him. | ||
| We've got Nunes admitting to the Intelligence Committee. | ||
| Of course they're spying on them. | ||
| We have all these sources that are doing it. | ||
| I can't believe they're playing dumb with all this. | ||
| They were all over the news saying they were, and so much more. | ||
| And then the latest Islamic attack, which they're saying isn't an Islamic attack. | ||
| So we'll see where all that's going. | ||
| We have Michael Moore, again, calling for martial law in a national emergency. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| The former deputy head of the Defense Department, this is in the Washington Post, going around again trying to organize a coup against Trump. | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| I'm Mr. Anti-Police State. | ||
| He is. | ||
| The police state means if I'm not... | ||
| He's Mr. Anti-Police State. | ||
| He's Mr. Anti-Police State. | ||
| Meanwhile, Owen Troyer is Mr. Steal Your Girl. | ||
| And I'm Mr. Boom Bostic. | ||
| They call me a space cowboy. | ||
| Do some people call you Maurice? | ||
| Some people call me doing something wrong. | ||
| I'm getting messed with. | ||
| I'm getting surveilled. | ||
| I'm getting bothered. | ||
| I'm out here producing stuff, being a good American. | ||
| When you run around saying, kill the president, let's burn everything down. | ||
| Let's shut Alex Jones up. | ||
| So at this point, he's tried to do the introduction. | ||
| He's not going well. | ||
| He's listed a couple topics that he wants to get to. | ||
| Michael Moore is a slug. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Gorsuch is cool. | ||
| The former head of the DOD being all what they are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Running around. | ||
| Calling for the murder of Trump. | ||
| He's just started ranting now and he's lost control of the fact that he's doing an introduction. | ||
| Which I think is fascinating because Steve Pachenik is on Skype. | ||
| He's sitting there just staring in confusion. | ||
| He's like, I am... | ||
| A doctor. | ||
| I assume if you're a regular Alex Jones guest, you just kind of get used to saying one word every four or five minutes, right? | ||
| Yeah, you have to sort of... | ||
| You know what you're getting into. | ||
| If you're mad at him, this is on you. | ||
| You have to let down your expectations of dignity, kind of, a little bit if you go on his show a lot. | ||
| There are a few, like, counterexamples, and actually Steve Pachanek is one of them. | ||
| Which is why this interview is fascinating. | ||
| Because usually Steve Pachenik is someone who Alex gives a lot of deference to. | ||
| A lot of ass-kissing. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| As opposed to someone like an Eddie Bravo. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Who just gets some ass-tonguing. | ||
| Or Jesse James. | ||
| How's your cars? | ||
| Cars good? | ||
| Cars good? | ||
| The idea that nationalism came from the Russians is crazy. | ||
| And now we have the Federal Elections Commission saying we're looking at trying to go after a drudge report. | ||
| They're acting like Trump didn't get elected. | ||
| Now, I've talked a lot about this with Dr. Pachenik. | ||
| And yes, this was regime change against the globalists. | ||
| It's happening all over the world. | ||
| But they don't seem to care. | ||
| And they're just moving forward. | ||
| It is a big crack in their brainwashing that Nunes comes out and says, of course they're spying. | ||
| But they were in hundreds of articles in the New York Times and Washington Post saying they were spying two months ago. | ||
| But there was nothing in the spying, so Trump said, you shouldn't have leaked your spying. | ||
| So then they go, we weren't spying. | ||
| We're going to impeach you. | ||
| Our guest is also a Harvard-educated psychiatrist, Elon Moore. | ||
| And now we got it. | ||
| Now I remember. | ||
| I remember now. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Yeah, there he is. | ||
| I got him. | ||
| Hey, Steve. | ||
| So he actually still doesn't introduce him at that point. | ||
| Okay, good. | ||
| He rambles some more. | ||
| Wonderful. | ||
| That, at the end there, is what Alex thinks happened. | ||
| With the intelligence stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| None of that is anywhere near reality. | ||
| But that's the way he can twist it in his head to make Trump look and feel smart. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Where he's like, oh yeah, Trump was just trolling them the whole time. | ||
| I like his narrative of, it is a regime change that's happening all over the world, and they're acting like it didn't. | ||
| Like, they don't care. | ||
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So... | |
| So is it really a regime change if nobody cares? | ||
| If you're still just acting like everything's not a regime change. | ||
| I mean, in Egypt, whenever Mubarak was kicked out and they were just like, okay, you know what we'll do? | ||
| We'll kick out this military dictator. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| We'll put in a new military dictator. | ||
| That's not a regime change. | ||
| No. | ||
| Not really. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, like, what his idea of a regime change is, like, against the globalists, in reality, what it is is a very dangerous strain of nationalism that is popping up in a lot of countries and is largely being seeded and helped grow by cyber efforts taken on by the Russians, by Putin. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| He interprets it as a fight against the globalists who... | ||
| Well, I wouldn't say that it's entirely... | ||
| Like, there's a whole lot of factors that have gone into the rise of horrible nationalism. | ||
| No, I know, but that's what I'm saying, is it's being assisted by... | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Everywhere that it's popping up, you do see the fingerprints. | ||
| Of Russian involvement. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's why you see Marine Le Pen meeting with Putin openly the other day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| That is fucked up, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| She's just... | ||
| That's so weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, isn't that bad? | ||
| It's real bad. | ||
| Like, there's no way you can interpret that in a positive, like, oh, thank God this far-right candidate who hates Muslims and wants to end the EU and is a fascist goes to meet with Putin, who is... | ||
| Oh, that's bad. | ||
| It's real bad. | ||
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I don't like it. | |
| It's real bad. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| Alex interprets it as a fight against globalism, and as I've made clear, globalization is a real thing. | ||
| Globalists aren't. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he's fighting against, or his idea is against a non-existent force, and what he's actually doing is holding water and giving cover, essentially, to this rise of dangerous nationalism. | ||
| So, I mean, if he gets his way, we're going to live in a nightmare scape. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But hey, the globalists... | ||
| Yeah, which is way different from what we live in now. | ||
| Comparatively? | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Shit sucks now, but it could be way worse. | ||
| It could be way worse. | ||
| We did get one on the board. | ||
| But here's the thing. | ||
| Even if that nightmare scape does come to pass, this horrible future that could be down the road, the good news is the globalists will not be in charge. | ||
| Because they're not now. | ||
| That is a good point. | ||
| It's super self-fulfilling. | ||
| There will be a counter, counter, counter coup. | ||
| Or, I mean, at that point, we're probably looking at our sixth or seventh coup. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Maybe eighth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, I mean, all it is... | ||
| You know, we're playing chess here. | ||
| All it is is just, like, hating the idea of liberalism and sort of liberal democracies. | ||
| That's all it is. | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why does he hate it so much? | ||
| It's untraditional. | ||
| Is there any... | ||
| Have we ever gotten to a root? | ||
| Like, why? | ||
| Well, one of the things is that he thinks that liberals want to take your guns. | ||
| That's definitely... | ||
| He's big in the Second Amendment. | ||
| Okay, so we're basically coming from a straight Texan, like, this is all about personal liberty. | ||
| That's a big part of it. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| He believes that Agenda 21 is real and that liberals want to enforce it, which is bullshit. | ||
| I mean, Agenda 21 is real, and liberals probably would be cool with it, right? | ||
| Other than it being a terrible plan that nobody would do. | ||
| If Agenda 21, if we're talking about the actual UN suggestion sheet... | ||
| Oh yeah, we are talking about that one. | ||
| I don't think that a lot of those suggestions are bad. | ||
| No, they're not terrible. | ||
| If you're talking about Agenda 21, the version that's in Alex's head... | ||
| The order to kill all the Jedi. | ||
| I don't want that. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We need the Jedi. | ||
| No, I mean, like, it's all by degrees. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| Pour one out for Qui-Gon. | ||
| Let's get into this interview with Steve Pachenik. | ||
| I will say ahead of time, just because I had to cut out some stuff, it's too long for us to listen to all of it, his big points were that Neil Gorsuch is a neocon and should never be put on the Supreme Court. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's good. | ||
| I like that a lot. | ||
| See, that's what I'm talking about. | ||
| That's really good. | ||
| But Jenick is coming in with some good stuff today. | ||
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| His second point. | ||
| He's bringing hot fire. | ||
| His second point. | ||
| The 5% nation should be allowed to take over. | ||
| Yakuub created white people in the land. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| That's his second point, of course. | ||
| His second point is that it also has to do with the neocons and what have you, but they are trying to get us to go to war with North Korea, and that's fucking stupid. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And I also agree with him on that count. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So anyway, here's the introduction. | ||
| This is a big day for us. | ||
| Here's the introduction of Steve Pachanek's premise. | ||
| While you and I are talking about other issues, I'm still monitoring the rise and fall of the neocons. | ||
| As you know, we were successful in stopping John Bolton for coming in as a key player in the State Department. | ||
| Yet today, he went into the White House. | ||
| Whether Trump realizes this or not, or he understands what I'm saying, or a group of us who are saying, we're not dilettantes, we're not somebody who has an axe to grind, but there will be no neocons. | ||
| in the White House or in the State Department. | ||
| Let me repeat it again so Trump and his team understands this. | ||
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There's nobody in the state. | |
| I don't care who you are. | ||
| I don't care if you're the CEO of a $500 billion corporation like Mobile Oil. | ||
| You do not threaten North Korea under any condition because you have a moron like John Bolton who's never been in the military. | ||
| Who was afraid to join our military and publicly said I was scared to get killed in the rice paddies of Vietnam. | ||
| So breaking this down though, what do you make of the Democrats? | ||
| That's my question. | ||
| Get to what you want in a minute, but I'm asking. | ||
| I get it's a distraction, but they're literally running around saying kill the president and they're not getting in trouble. | ||
| Alex, they're not relevant. | ||
| Right now, the Democrats are not relevant. | ||
| The only thing they're relevant to do, and I'm going back to this point, they cannot have neoconservatives coming in. | ||
| You can't have the 9-11. | ||
| So you're saying the neocons are the dangerous group, and Trump can't appease them. | ||
| Dianne Feinstein is not dangerous. | ||
| Nancy Pelosi is not dangerous. | ||
| Michael Moore is not dangerous. | ||
| They've all been neutralized. | ||
| What happened is, thanks to you and the group and those of us who kept the revolution going, the neocons who've been cowards, And deprecated you, me, and Trump snuck back in like a bunch of rats and they're back in the White House. | ||
| And instead of focusing on the neoconservative rise, which leads with Gorsuch, Bolton, Abrams, all of whom have no right to come back into the administration. | ||
| They were cowards. | ||
| They were people who... | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| I mean, I understand that. | ||
| What do the neocons want? | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| And then looking at what's happening with Korea, what's going on with China and the South China Sea? | ||
| Alex, listen to me. | ||
| I know you don't like it right now. | ||
| We're not on the same wavelength. | ||
| The neocons want America to go to war. | ||
| No, I don't want to go to war. | ||
| It's not that I disagree with you. | ||
| I'm trying to get you on the subject I'm asking. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Somebody's challenging him. | ||
| North Korea has 2.2 million men on the DMZ, on the militarized zone. | ||
| We are 30 miles away from Seoul. | ||
| If John Bolton has his way, he'd have no problem taking preemptive action, whatever that means, because he's never been in the military. | ||
| He has no strategy or tactics. | ||
| And 2.2 million North Koreans will swarm over the DMZ and literally go in hours right into slow. | ||
| Well, sure. | ||
| So the only action is if they try to load atomics on the missiles, if you want to go to war, is you've got to preemptively nuke? | ||
| North Korea, their capital, you've got to hit that whole DMZ line, and then tell China and everybody else, ultimatum, if you try something, Trump's got to deal with Russia, we're going to joint nuke China. | ||
| And then I guess they pop up their submarines and nuke the West Coast. | ||
| Alex, remember, I've been in the business of nuclear deterrence, we took it down, we have the Soviet Union. | ||
| No, I know, but I mean, that's the public attack plan. | ||
| Do you think North Korea will actually take that bluff? | ||
| You know what just happened there? | ||
| Steve Pachenik said, you're an idiot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was him saying, you're a fucking idiot, Alex. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know I've been in the business of nuclear deterrence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The big part of nuclear deterrence is, don't kill millions of people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, when Alex was starting this, he introduced these premises that he wanted to get to. | ||
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| The Democrats being evil. | ||
| Judge Gorsuch is awesome. | ||
| He's going to get confirmed. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| God, I hope not. | ||
| One of Pchenik's main points is the exact opposite of that. | ||
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| And because Alex has built up Steve Pchenik as this hero and this great source of information. | ||
| You hear it in his voice. | ||
| You hear it in his voice when he kind of resigns himself where he's like, I mean, what do you think about North Korea? | ||
| He can't fight him on stuff. | ||
| So all he can do is try and interrupt him and steer the conversation in a different direction. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's fascinating. | ||
| And Pchenik is not having shit. | ||
| No. | ||
| Alex, I'm sorry, we're not on the same wavelength. | ||
| Yeah, that was so... | ||
| We've never heard a quote like that on this show. | ||
| This keeps going, and it ends so fucked up. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So, listen, I'm not going to carry any water for Steve Pachanek, but I happen to agree with the points he's making in this episode. | ||
| We got one good day. | ||
| We got one good day. | ||
| Let's fly with it. | ||
| I think built into some of the reasons that he believes... | ||
| Bad things. | ||
| Bad things. | ||
| Some of his arguments for the right conclusion I disagree with, but let's not split hands. | ||
| The enemy of my enemy is my friend. | ||
| Let's do this. | ||
| And currently he's Alex Jones' enemy in that studio. | ||
| I know. | ||
| So Alex has just said, is North Korea going to take that bluff? | ||
| Are they going to bluff? | ||
| Here's Steve's answer. | ||
| With this guy running it? | ||
| I don't. | ||
| North Korea is not interested in a bluff. | ||
| North Korea couldn't care less about a sanction. | ||
| What North Korea will do is what's best for North Korea. | ||
| Our preparation has to do with the tactical and strategic issues of how to deal with North Korea with other countries. | ||
| That's what Bolton... | ||
| No, I understand. | ||
| You like Trump. | ||
| You're glad he's in. | ||
| You're upset to see neocons coming around. | ||
| Not what he said. | ||
| And you don't think the neocons have learned any lessons? | ||
| They've been destructive to the country. | ||
| What have we done? | ||
| No, I'm not defending them. | ||
| I can't stand the neocons. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| I don't like the neocons. | ||
| You don't like the neocons? | ||
| Nobody likes the neocons. | ||
| To be clear, throughout this entire interview, you can see Steve Pachanek continuing to talk, and they've cut his mic off. | ||
| No! | ||
| Yeah, so whenever Alex interrupts him, they cut off Steve's mic, and you can see a sense of almost a frustration, a look of like, what? | ||
| You can see in his face that he is not on board with what's going on. | ||
| He's trying to make the best of it. | ||
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Right. | |
| And I don't think I'm reading too much into this. | ||
| I don't think he's going to be a guest for a while. | ||
| Oh, yeah? | ||
| I think Alex might have offended him. | ||
| Wow, we're really getting into some solid schisms in between Alex Jones and literally everybody who likes Alex Jones. | ||
| Well, I think that for the last year and a half or so, Steve Pchenik has been this source of information for Alex, and there's been a guru-mentee kind of relationship between them. | ||
| So the student... | ||
| Has not become the teacher. | ||
| He has not. | ||
| But I think that there is a part of this where Steve is trying to make some points that he wants to get through to Alex, and he realizes that Alex is off the reservation. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, I think he realizes, no, Alex, you have your own points now. | ||
| You don't just believe the things I want you to believe. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, it's fascinating. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| So they go on to talk more about the neocons, and this clip... | ||
| Really illustrates... | ||
| And the neocons are, just to remind everybody, the reason that we fucking went into Iraq and all that bullshit. | ||
| Yeah, it's all those dudes. | ||
| We gotta preemptively fucking fuck everybody over so we can get money. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The project for a new American century shit. | ||
| But they... | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| They're awful. | ||
| I agree with that. | ||
| They're terrible. | ||
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Yep. | |
| John Bolton is a wacky dude. | ||
| They're gonna get us all killed. | ||
| Yeah, very much so. | ||
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That's their goal. | |
| The neocons' goal is to wipe out 90% of Chinese people. | ||
| We all know this. | ||
| We heard it earlier in this episode. | ||
| We saw it. | ||
| We heard it earlier in this episode. | ||
| It's in foreign policy. | ||
| But he blamed it on the globalists. | ||
| It's in foreign policy. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So anyway, this clip illustrates that Alex Jones is fucking out of his league in this conversation. | ||
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Okay. | |
| He's out of his element. | ||
| He's out of his depth. | ||
| Donnie. | ||
| And he is not a good interviewer. | ||
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Gotcha. | |
| Well, we already knew half of those things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| All of them, actually. | ||
| Yes, we did. | ||
| They're able to co-opt the conservative party. | ||
| They're funded by Shelley Adelson, or they're funded by the Mercers, or whoever it is. | ||
| What they do is they tell Trump and his weaker people, we'll be nice just as soon as Trump lets us run things. | ||
| But then every time he lets them in, they leak information that they are a group of rats. | ||
| Perlman and all these people are just, like, crazy. | ||
| I mean, like, you know about Perlman, Friends of Darkness. | ||
| He, like, showed up at cocktail parties in the news and said, I kill lots of people. | ||
| I'm manly. | ||
| And then women run from him as if women want a guy to walk up and go, I'm a murderer. | ||
| I kill people. | ||
| That's not what women want. | ||
| I mean, it's like he is totally... | ||
| How did a little pasty guy who looks like a raccoon get in control of things? | ||
| I mean, how does Bolton with that big, ridiculous mustache... | ||
| You're acting like I'm defending the neocons. | ||
| I hate the neocons. | ||
| So he's muted right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Alex Jones is saying all of this nonsense about... | ||
| Perlman? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Are we still back on Ron Perlman? | ||
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No. | |
| Because I don't think Ron Perlman said that stuff. | ||
| I don't know who Perlman is. | ||
| Ron Perlman usually goes up and says, I'm Hellboy. | ||
| And that's good enough, right? | ||
| And I'm willing to fight Alex Jones. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| No. | ||
| But, like, Steve Pachenik wants to talk policy, and Alex can't. | ||
| No, Alex can't do that. | ||
| He can talk gossip and John Bolton's mustache. | ||
| And wonk. | ||
| He can't talk policy. | ||
| No, he's a gossip wonk. | ||
| He can talk wonk. | ||
| Not policy. | ||
| He's a Paul Ryan school of policy wonk. | ||
| Meaning a fucking idiot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So Steve gets back in here. | ||
| Looks like he's like a big brush. | ||
| They basically scurry away when it comes for time to come forth and do something that's morally right. | ||
| They didn't support you. | ||
| They didn't go after their own president. | ||
| They weren't able to resign. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| They came after me with all their publications and tried to stop Trump. | ||
| I'm not talking about that. | ||
| I'm not talking about their publications. | ||
| I'm talking about that they didn't go after the president of the United States. | ||
| No, I agree. | ||
| Why is he going to let people in that were his enemies in the campaign? | ||
| Because he has no other alternative. | ||
| I don't know why he's choosing them. | ||
| He's an idiot. | ||
| At every level, no one will appoint who he says. | ||
| Everyone ignores his orders and says, yes, sir, yes, sir, yes, sir. | ||
| And he can't get anybody in. | ||
| There's a total mutiny. | ||
| That's what I'm telling you. | ||
| He's got that State Department office. | ||
| Running operations against him, saying everybody's a Russian agent. | ||
| Well, what do you think of this claim that I'm getting directed by the GD Russians? | ||
| Well, it's absurd. | ||
| You and I know that the Russians could care less, although they like you very much, and they happen to like me or fear me. | ||
| It's not relevant. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Your mama's so fat, the Russians wouldn't fuck her! | ||
| Goddamn! | ||
| I'm kind of fine with that answer, though, from him. | ||
| It is exactly... | ||
| It's probably the... | ||
| True answer. | ||
| I don't think that the Russians are feeding Alex Jones things to say. | ||
| I just think that they're... | ||
| They like him, incidentally. | ||
| It seems like he's an ally that they don't even have to cultivate anyway. | ||
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No, not at all. | |
| Like, other people you gotta convince and they're... | ||
| They're a compliment on them. | ||
| Yeah, they just smiled at Alex and he's like, oh, I'm so happy that people are paying attention. | ||
| Alex is a lucky idiot, basically. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, so... | ||
| Which is why we're getting into the circumstances we are now. | ||
| Because before Alex had any real-world relevancy, he could get away with saying any bullshit that he wanted to. | ||
| Now that people are actually paying attention, which is on its own insane, now he's getting into trouble. | ||
| Because he's been saying illegal shit, or at the very least libelous shit, for so long that this is the first time that people are like, Oh, we better go after this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| That's why he's so confused and angry all the time. | ||
| He's like, I've been doing this forever. | ||
| Yeah, why are you mad at me now, mommy? | ||
| What changed? | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Well, we just decided it was time to swat you down. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Like what happened with Cosby. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Hey, now. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Hey, now. | ||
| Hey. | ||
| So this next clip is they get off track a little bit. | ||
| They've been talking a ton about the neocons. | ||
| They get off track because Alex keeps, again, steering the conversation in different directions. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He keeps trying to not deal with substance. | ||
| He just wants to, you know, so here's a... | ||
| I was watching the video, and I can tell you that what Steve Pachanek ends up saying is not what he meant to say. | ||
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Gotcha. | |
| He meant to say something far worse. | ||
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Oh. | |
| And I wish he had. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| In fact, what's happening is a repetition of the failures that... | ||
| Occurred from 9-11 onward, and Trump now will be involved with that very issue. | ||
| I don't care about Jared Kushner. | ||
| He doesn't know what he's doing. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Another thing is Kushner. | ||
| He's a good-looking guy. | ||
| His own family gave him the money. | ||
| What is this young guy in these meetings with Trump in every different meeting like he's the boss? | ||
| Well, the problem is Trump has to have somebody around him with whom he feels secure, whether it's Ivanka or Jared Kushner. | ||
| He likes his family. | ||
| That's his family. | ||
| That's not my problem. | ||
| My problem is that Jared... | ||
| Because as a psychiatrist, what does that say about Trump that he always wants family around? | ||
| He's a pussy. | ||
| Let's say, on the nicer edge, I can say he loves his family. | ||
| On a more sophisticated level, I would say he needs those who he feels comfortable with in order to give himself a kind of psychological barrier to deal with strangers. | ||
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Oh, shit! | |
| I think that if we... | ||
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Bullshit! | |
| I think if we parse that... | ||
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Pachenik is dropping some insecurity bullshit! | |
| But I think that the reality is that he's actually fairly senile, and he has those people around as caretakers. | ||
| You know, I hear the senility argument. | ||
| I get why people would think that. | ||
| I mean, I think he's just generally an idiot. | ||
| It's not like he's ever been more than what he is now. | ||
| Fine, fine. | ||
| You can go back and he's what he is. | ||
| Now, either he's been senile for 30 goddamn years. | ||
| It's not true, though. | ||
| If you go back and you watch interviews with him from, like, 20 years ago, he can track thoughts much easier. | ||
| Like, he had much more mental cognition, even 10, 15 years ago. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yeah, it's insane. | ||
| The only thing I remember from more than however many months I've had to pay attention to him now... | ||
| Is that he was in Home Alone 2. Okay, great. | ||
| He was pretty great in Home Alone 2. He was articulate. | ||
| Oh man, he said all those words? | ||
| Nobody asked him to read a book once. | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| I think that Steve Pchenik was being diplomatic as hell. | ||
| Yeah, he's saying that Trump is fucking stupid. | ||
| You could see it in his face, like... | ||
| You could see like a smile and like a... | ||
| My professional... | ||
| So anyway, this clip isn't done, but I love that. | ||
| I think that's great. | ||
| Steve Pachenik, like you said, killing it. | ||
| He's on fire right now. | ||
| He's an NBA Jam version of Steve Pachenik. | ||
| Boom shakalaka! | ||
| It's funny you say that, you know, the background on Trump. | ||
| That's actually the thing, is that... | ||
| John F. Kennedy had it with RFK. | ||
| You know, I don't want to get into the psychiatry of the man. | ||
| I understand the man. | ||
| The problem isn't understanding him. | ||
| The problem is the action that's initiated. | ||
| Well, he's overcome his... | ||
| I'm not going to get into it. | ||
| You know what, Doc? | ||
| He's overcome his what? | ||
| He's overcome his what? | ||
| What did he overcome? | ||
| He doesn't want to get into it. | ||
| What did he overcome? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Gonorrhea. | ||
| He's overcome his fear of strangers. | ||
| He's overcome his... | ||
| I mean, what? | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| Alex Jones knows something that Donald Trump has recently gotten over. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I want to know. | ||
| I want to know. | ||
| I would like to know what Alex thinks, but I also... | ||
| The clap. | ||
| Gonorrhea. | ||
| No. | ||
| AIDS. | ||
| I mean, it could be syphilis. | ||
| Trump, it could be syphilis. | ||
| That does make you go insane. | ||
| Syphilis makes you crazy. | ||
| That's why you need family around. | ||
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Oh, because they are syphilis busters? | |
| No, they're also syphiletic, so they double down on your syphilis logic. | ||
| Whatever dumb shit you're saying, because they also have syphilis, it makes sense to them. | ||
| This is the greatest conspiracy theory I've ever heard. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Instead of pedophiles, we've just got everybody with syphilis everywhere. | ||
| I'm okay with that. | ||
| If you are one of the globalists, they have to give you syphilis. | ||
| Or if you're one of the anti-globalists. | ||
| We're recording this on Saturday. | ||
| And their cabals. | ||
| We're recording this on Saturday. | ||
| Did you see on Twitter the pictures of the Pizzagate rallies? | ||
| Uh-uh. | ||
| There was a Pizzagate rally in Washington, D.C. It was... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| The pictures are not to be believed. | ||
| There were ones of people. | ||
| There were a couple dozen, as I understand. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| This guy did some great reporting on it. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I fucking wish I remembered his name. | ||
| This is stupid. | ||
| I'm not even giving a plug right. | ||
| So this next clip, Steve Pachenik transitions to his other prong of his thesis against the neocons, which is about Neil Gorsuch. | ||
| Good. | ||
| I'm not arguing with you today. | ||
| Look, I just know Hillary would destroy the country. | ||
| I know Trump's not perfect. | ||
| I see him kind of sliding back a little bit, which I expected him to do. | ||
| He's already got the heroic stuff done, but I agree with you. | ||
| All these neocons that want to start all these wars, it's just insane. | ||
| Let's start with one at a time. | ||
| Gorsuch cannot be nominated for Supreme Court justice. | ||
| But he seems like a pretty conservative guy. | ||
| No, he's not a conservative. | ||
| All right, let's come back. | ||
| I've got a bunch of clips I've got to get to, but do a few minutes if you can. | ||
| On why you think the new Supreme Court guy's bad. | ||
| You can hear in his voice. | ||
| I don't want to hear this. | ||
| He doesn't want to hear it. | ||
| He doesn't want to hear why Gorsuch is bad. | ||
| But listen to how he says Steve Pchenik's name as he goes out to break. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I'm going to move to Club Sanmore ahead of the next host that joins us. | ||
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We'll be right back, ladies and gentlemen, with Steve Pchenik. | |
| Oh! | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Resigned! | ||
| We have to be back with Steve Pachanek? | ||
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Steve Pachanek isn't making me feel good right now. | |
| We'll be right back with Steve Pachanek. | ||
| So they go to commercial break. | ||
| It's like he's throwing a tantrum. | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| Like he's talking to his dad like, I don't like it! | ||
| I don't like the way you're talking to me. | ||
| You don't say enough good things about Trump. | ||
| I'm an adult. | ||
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I know that neocons are bad, but I love Trump. | |
| I know that neocons... | ||
| Does he know what a neocon is? | ||
| He thinks they're Trotskyites, which I guess there's some historical... | ||
| I guess that's not terrible. | ||
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No. | |
| But they come back from break. | ||
| Alex starts by spinning philosophical about a little bit of stuff. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And then he gets back to Pachanik. | ||
| Who does a really, I would say, pretty decent job of explaining why exactly he is against Gorsuch. | ||
| Awesome. | ||
| People ask why I like having a country. | ||
| Well, it's a culture. | ||
| It's ideas. | ||
| It's some rules. | ||
| Doesn't mean they always get followed. | ||
| Doesn't mean it's perfect. | ||
| We're going with the police squad. | ||
| But also, I guarantee no one's coming to me like, Alex, why do you like having a country? | ||
| Ask why I like having... | ||
| People ask me all the time. | ||
| People come up to me and say, Alex, I say what? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why, Alex, do you like having a country? | ||
| Don't you think it would be better if we just had city-states? | ||
| Don't you think it would be better if we just had you? | ||
| If everyone was Alex? | ||
| If everyone was just Alex and they lived exactly 24 hectares away from each other? | ||
| You know what's fucked up? | ||
| Because of the idea of infinity and infinite worlds? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| One world is that. | ||
| Is everybody in... | ||
| Everyone is Alex Jones. | ||
| And they all live a hectare away from each other. | ||
| That does exist. | ||
| Well, in the multiverse, all things are and have happened. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And unfortunately, this is happening now. | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| Globalism, a bunch of multinational Mark Zuckerbergs and Eric Schmitz running around playing God. | ||
| That's a nightmare. | ||
| But when you talk about the neocons, almost none of them were ever in the military. | ||
| They always want wars. | ||
| They're always talking about... | ||
| Nuclear war would be survivable. | ||
| Let's have it. | ||
| It really is a crazy mindset. | ||
| The thing that you have said should happen multiple times. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| The thing that Alex Jones has advocated for, he is now condemning in the neocons. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Because daddy told him to. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| All right. | ||
| I get what Dr. Steve Pichanik's talking about here. | ||
| No, you don't. | ||
| And I see this new Supreme Court justice. | ||
| I think about if Hillary was in, who would we be getting? | ||
| So just to be clear, why are you saying there's issues with this guy? | ||
| Let me put it this way. | ||
| For many of the people in the audience, I would love them to see a film called Judgment at Nuremberg. | ||
| But the Nuremberg trials were exactly about Judge Gorsuch. | ||
| The question was asked by our... | ||
| Prosecutors after the war, why were German Nazi judges, who were very sane and normal and had huge degrees from America, Britain, and Germany, able to initiate laws that were against the Jews, gays, whatever, and they were suppressed? | ||
| And why were these decent people, and this judge is an extremely decent individual, but during a 14-month period, He cracked his decency and literally began to go into the fascist state. | ||
| He thought it was good to initiate a suppression of freedom, a surveillance of what our normal freedoms are, increased enhanced torture. | ||
| He justified it. | ||
| Went to Guantanamo, said this was the best thing he could have had. | ||
| He wrote to the Council on Foreign Relations, and remember, I was there and then I left, that we should have a policy discussion on the need for torture. | ||
| And so what happened during these 14 months was to reveal the underlying nature of this so-called decent American who was not unlike many of the German judges who were decent German judges, but they followed orders. | ||
| And the orders were to suppress American freedoms. | ||
| He should have said no. | ||
| He called Gorsuch a nut! | ||
| Well, no, he made the... | ||
| He called Gorsuch a Nazi! | ||
| He made the Nuremberg claim, and you're like, that's a little extreme, but then he laid it out really well. | ||
| Yeah, he laid it out really well. | ||
| Now, the problem I have there is that that's what fucking Scalia was, you goddamn piece of shit, Pachenik. | ||
| Why aren't you against Scalia, you pile of fucking garbage? | ||
| Let's not litigate the dead. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Let's just kill him again. | ||
| Let's bring him back. | ||
| Take him to another Illuminati launch. | ||
| Have him murdered again. | ||
| Fucking murder him again. | ||
| But, like, who cares? | ||
| We're not dealing with Scalia right now. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| We're dealing with Scalia 2.0. | ||
| We're dealing with the reality in front of us, and I agree again with Steve Pachanek on this. | ||
| I mean, it's nuts. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| I never like agreeing with people on Alex's show. | ||
| Every single thing that he just said made perfect sense. | ||
| Yeah, he was working, helped put through the Patriot Act, helped enhance interrogations. | ||
| The fact that he went to Guantanamo Bay and was like... | ||
| This is sweet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a sociopath, right? | ||
| There's no other way that you can go to watch people being tortured on a daily basis and say, this is good, unless you have zero empathy. | ||
| Well, I mean, that doesn't make you necessarily a sociopath. | ||
| It makes you like a situational sociopath. | ||
| Right, a Nazi. | ||
| Because you just believe that these other people don't have rights, but other people who are like you do. | ||
| Right, like the Jews and Nazis. | ||
| Sort of like that, yeah. | ||
| So he's a Nazi. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I'm a big fan of saying the word Nazi on this show. | ||
| Yeah, you are. | ||
| I'm not going to go quite as far as you, but, you know, Nazi-ish. | ||
| I'm going to go Nazi-ish. | ||
| Awful, awful Nazi-ish. | ||
| He goes a little bit farther in this next clip as to say that Neil Gorsuch supports fascism, which is fascinating, and Alex can't handle this shit. | ||
| Alex can't do it? | ||
| At least with Cheney, I knew what Cheney was. | ||
| He was a rat. | ||
| He was a rat from day one, and he was a rat from day five, but he never changed his stripes. | ||
| This guy, Gorsuch, was changing his stripes right and left and then stood on a self-righteous step and said, what, me? | ||
| I haven't done anything. | ||
| I was just a lawyer. | ||
| No, you were more than a lawyer. | ||
| You were the perpetrator and the instigator and the facilitator of suppression of the state. | ||
| That's called fascism. | ||
| If it's fascism for a day, a week, or a year, that's still fascism. | ||
| For that reason alone, he does not deserve to be Supreme Court Justice. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Wow. | ||
| Get him. | ||
| Wow. | ||
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Get him. | |
| Man, I am jerking off to Pachanek right now. | ||
| He had a good set. | ||
| That's what it was. | ||
| He had a good set. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So let's get through these last two. | ||
| There's two more clips of Pachanek before it gets to, like, what I... | ||
| To the esoteric ramblings of a madman. | ||
| Which is obviously in response to how poorly this interview is going. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, this... | ||
| Sent him into an existential crisis is the angle we're taking on this, right? | ||
| The last two clips, Pachenik has talked for a bit of a stretch, and you can see Alex kind of sitting there like... | ||
| There's like a sense of... | ||
| Well, he's gotten more words consecutively than I've ever heard a guest get. | ||
| Right? | ||
| He's thrown Alex Jones into a full-on... | ||
| Shockly. | ||
| Well, because at the beginning of this, in the first few clips of the Pchenik interview, Alex was constantly trying to reshift the argument. | ||
| He even said, I'm trying to get you to talk about what I want you to talk about. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And he realized, I can't do it. | ||
| No. | ||
| Steve is too forceful. | ||
| So he's given up. | ||
| More or less. | ||
| So as we've once again discovered, Alex is a bully. | ||
| And a pussy. | ||
| And when he's not allowed to bully, he... | ||
| He sulks. | ||
| He sulks. | ||
| He's sulking. | ||
| Yeah, but he... | ||
| Alex Jones is sulking right now, like any real man would. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| He makes one last effort to sort of distract and change the narratives that are going on here in this next clip. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| His last... | ||
| Well, this thing's gonna get confirmed. | ||
| I mean, look, I understand the stuff with Leonard Bush, the guy that followed orders, whatever. | ||
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Nope. | |
| I mean, I get what you're saying. | ||
| My issue is, can you imagine what Hillary was going to do if she got in with these judges? | ||
| I'm not worried about Hillary. | ||
| We're not talking about Hillary. | ||
| Hillary's off on another planet. | ||
| No, I understand. | ||
| We're moving forward. | ||
| We can't look at the past and judge things by that. | ||
| I can't put back in there the people who created the problems to begin with. | ||
| You and I started... | ||
| I'm almost out of time. | ||
| Let me shift gears back to Nunes. | ||
| You know, he's standing up and saying, yeah, they're spying on Trump. | ||
| That's a good thing. | ||
| Of course, I told you 10 years ago. | ||
| No, we know. | ||
| We know. | ||
| So what does it mean that the media would run this whole hoax that Trump's not being spied on? | ||
| It's again a distraction. | ||
| I'm going back to you 100 times. | ||
| Yeah, but here's the thing. | ||
| You're a smart guy. | ||
| Don't blind yourself just because you know this, that the public needs to know. | ||
| When they're up there saying, we're liars, there's no surveillance. | ||
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This is Jerry Springer right now. | |
| We're getting into it. | ||
| Well, I just said it. | ||
| We have surveillance. | ||
| But the key issue is the public doesn't know. | ||
| We've got 500 Marines being put into Syria in a war that can't be won, in a battle that was not even planned out correctly in Raqqa. | ||
| But I mean, Trump promised to knock them out. | ||
| You don't think they can kill those guys? | ||
| No. | ||
| He can't kill them. | ||
| You don't kill so-called terrorists. | ||
| No, I get it. | ||
| You turn off their command and control. | ||
| As you're saying, the command and control is still inside the U.S. government. | ||
| So what is Trump doing in 60 seconds? | ||
| I'm sorry, Alex. | ||
| What's going on? | ||
| No, I mean, I just asked a question. | ||
| No, he just didn't understand what the fuck Alex told him. | ||
| What does Trump do in 60 seconds? | ||
| Yeah, he didn't understand. | ||
| He's like, what? | ||
| How many cars can he steal in 60 seconds? | ||
| How many angels can he fit on the head of a pin? | ||
| Is Nicolas Cage there? | ||
| The mom is the doctor. | ||
| Ooh, is Trump Nicolas Cage? | ||
| I can't prove he's not. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| So this next clip is the end of the interview, and I don't want to spoil how it ends, but just listen for it. | ||
|
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It's... | |
| It made me... | ||
| It ends with a review of Beauty and the Beast, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they're like, man, I wish she had done more of the original songs. | ||
| Emma Stone is getting nominated. | ||
| Wait, Emma Watson is getting nominated. | ||
| I can't keep track of anybody in Hollywood. | ||
| All the Emmas. | ||
| The end of this is interesting. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Enjoy, and just know that when I heard this, I got a shiver. | ||
| Yeah, I got a shiver in my spine. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| The basic... | ||
| Premise of all wars is you win it by using the head, not by using guns. | ||
| Guns on the ground, particularly with the Marines, you've got cannon fodder. | ||
| I've got boys who just came back from Africa. | ||
| They don't know what they were doing in Africa. | ||
| They don't know why they were shooting at certain people. | ||
| They don't know why we have troops in eastern Africa. | ||
| No, I know. | ||
| I understand. | ||
| So you're saying it is literally just a defense contractor event. | ||
| Industrial complex again. | ||
| We don't need $58 billion more in a budget that's already blowed at the $600 billion. | ||
| I have 888 generals and admirals, twice the amount I had in World War II. | ||
| Yet in World War II, I won two wars with George Marshall and Eisenhower, and we never had as many generals. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Dr. Machinic, always great to talk to you. | ||
| SteveMachinic.com. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Bye. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That is not how you end an interview. | ||
| That is not how you end a marital fight. | ||
| That's what that was. | ||
| That was so abrupt. | ||
| That was a husband and wife fight right there. | ||
| They need to go to couples counseling. | ||
| You know why they shut it off, though? | ||
| It was because he was arguing against... | ||
| He was saying that you shouldn't have the military industrial complex get more money. | ||
| Well, he was arguing against Trump's budget, basically, and... | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| Alex can't stand that. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| Can't have that. | ||
| No. | ||
| So he just shut down his hero, Steve Pchenik. | ||
| Pchenik just fucking... | ||
| Went to town. | ||
| Now, you might think that he cut him off that abruptly for time. | ||
| Pachenik just made the same arguments that I could have made. | ||
| Probably, yeah. | ||
| War is bad. | ||
| Don't fuck with North Korea. | ||
| We don't need that much of a budget. | ||
| I think he made a better argument against Gorsuch than I could have. | ||
| Yeah, no, absolutely. | ||
| That was perfect. | ||
| Yeah, the budget for the military is out of control. | ||
| It doesn't need more money. | ||
| Doesn't. | ||
| Should have reduced money. | ||
| I cut out some parts where he was talking about how ISIS is controlled by the CIA and stuff like that. | ||
| Well, there we go. | ||
| I kind of disagree with that stuff. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But the bigger points... | ||
| And the thing that he talked about with Syria is amazing because, I mean, we're so distracted by all the shit that Trump is doing. | ||
| We're forgetting that Trump has now killed more civilians in Syria in the first two months than fucking Obama did in... | ||
| Years. | ||
| What we're doing in Syria is insane. | ||
| And we can't add that to our list of calamities that we're trying to deal with right now. | ||
| There's so much shit going on that we are murdering people. | ||
| We are murdering people and nobody can pay attention to it. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| That's fucking nuts. | ||
| The world is spiraling out of control. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| If you grab hold of one thing to focus on, you lose track of 20 others. | ||
| But anyway, you might think that it's because of time. | ||
| That he was just like, we don't have time. | ||
| I do not think it's because of time. | ||
| That tone of voice in both of them says it is not because of time. | ||
| I think he might want to say that it was because of time. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But the way he fills the next half hour before, I think, David Knight takes over for the fourth hour proves... | ||
| He could have talked to Janik much longer. | ||
|
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Ooh. | |
| Because he's got nothing. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| This is nothing. | ||
| This is nothing? | ||
| But it is awesome. | ||
| I love it when he's got nothing. | ||
| It starts by him misinterpreting something from the Bible. | ||
| As the House Intel chair confirms Obama administration surveilled Trump. | ||
| That's a longer clip from C-SPAN. | ||
| Didn't do that. | ||
| He walked it back. | ||
| Incidental collection, unmasking, widely disseminated. | ||
| Bullshit. | ||
| He got it from the White House. | ||
| See, their argument is... | ||
| Trump wasn't the target. | ||
| It was his building and his phone numbers and his staff. | ||
| That's playing lawyer games again, folks. | ||
| And Pachetta's right. | ||
| It's a distraction. | ||
| But if we tell you they're going to call for overthrowing Trump in a civil emergency and martial law, and three months later it comes true, we have to point it out because they're saying we're the fake news. | ||
| But it hasn't. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And it won't. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| If we point out Trump was being surveilled, we told you exactly how, studying the law. | ||
| And then it, again, comes out, we're right. | ||
| We have to do it because it's not just about the regular audience that's already awake. | ||
| God love you. | ||
| You're the key to everything. | ||
| We're trying to reach the people. | ||
| It's the prodigal son story in the Bible. | ||
| The younger son says, I want my inheritance. | ||
| And the father says, hey, everything's great here at our ranch or farm. | ||
| He goes, I want it. | ||
| He goes, okay, here's your, he runs off for like five years, drunk, partying, prostitutes, blows it all. | ||
| Comes back and the older brother's like, I've been a good steward. | ||
| What the hell? | ||
| You're having a party? | ||
| That the prodigal son just came back? | ||
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The father looks at him and he goes, this is your brother? | |
| Can you imagine what it would be like if it was you? | ||
| You're strong. | ||
| I don't expect you to do that. | ||
| This is still our family. | ||
| And, you know, that's when I'm coming at this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's what he thinks the prodigal son was about? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Has he... | ||
| Are we sure he's ever read the Bible? | ||
| No, but he's read the headlines. | ||
| His... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's it. | ||
| He doesn't know how to read. | ||
| The Texas public schools failed him. | ||
| He has no reading comprehension skills. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That's what he thinks the prodigal son was about. | ||
| As I understand it. | ||
| I love that conversation that he thinks that the dad's like, dude, you're fine. | ||
| Look at this idiot. | ||
| We gotta be cool with him. | ||
| Like, what's happening? | ||
| Well, like, okay, so there's a couple problems with his interpretation of the prodigal son. | ||
| The first is, the idea in the book, or in the parable in the Bible, is that the son goes away. | ||
| And then realizes the error of his ways. | ||
| Learns his lesson, works with pigs, covered in shit. | ||
| Willingly comes back and is welcomed back by the father, and the brother is confused by it, and he's like, this is your brother who was dead and is now alive. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That is a celebration. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now, the problem for Alex is, in order for his sort of analogy to make sense, all of us at some point would have had to be info warriors who strayed. | ||
| And we got sort of tricked by the mainstream media, and then now he wants us to come back. | ||
| Is that what he's saying? | ||
| Kind of, yes. | ||
| I didn't understand the point of that. | ||
| The prodigal son, in his analogy, or his using of it, is these people who aren't red-pilled, as it were. | ||
| No, the people who don't see the truth that info-warriors know. | ||
| Those are the prodigal sons that he wants to come back. | ||
| But they were never... | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Right. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Now, the second problem is in the prodigal son, the father doesn't scream at the son to come back. | ||
| He doesn't. | ||
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He's not like, son, you brainwashed, you dumb fuck. | |
| The globalists done gotcha. | ||
| The globalists done gotcha, boy. | ||
| So the idea of it is a lesson learned brings you back to where you were supposed to be. | ||
| Not that being screamed at... | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Alex is really dumb, is what it turns out. | ||
| Alex is really dumb. | ||
| But he still has to throw in scripture every now and again because if he doesn't... | ||
| Otherwise he won't get the cred. | ||
| He loses his Christian bona fides. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he goes on from here to get even weirder. | ||
| This clip starts with him... | ||
| I mean, this is a perfect example of how he's just vamping. | ||
| He starts with some false modesty. | ||
| He gets into an impression and then tells a... | ||
| Fucked up analogy. | ||
| I love his impressions. | ||
| I'm a big fan of his analogies. | ||
| Do we get any personal history? | ||
| No personal history in this episode. | ||
| You know I've become obsessed with finding out more about him. | ||
| I am too. | ||
| While at the same time... | ||
| Never looking it up or doing any research of my own. | ||
| This analogy that he makes has some implied history. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And you might be able to gleep that he has done the thing he discusses at the end. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But I don't want to say he definitely has because it's really fucked up. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I want to request that you don't say anything over at least the end of this clip. | ||
| Done. | ||
| Because you need to hear him say this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because otherwise, if you don't get all the words, you might think, oh, it's not as fucked up as it is. | ||
| It's super fucked up. | ||
| I don't expect attention to me. | ||
| You call to see how great I am. | ||
| Listen, our country's got its legs cut off, bleed to death. | ||
| Great, I'm great because I don't want to die. | ||
| And I'm not bitching that you thank me. | ||
| It's just like, I don't deserve it. | ||
| This is self-preserveyance. | ||
| Preserveyance? | ||
| The prodigal son is who we want. | ||
| We want the people who aren't totally turned over to the lie. | ||
| We want to reach out to them. | ||
| So we have to point out, see? | ||
| The government says you don't have a memory. | ||
| Jonathan Gruber says you're dumb. | ||
| I don't think you're dumb. | ||
| If you start using your memory and get connected to God, you can live. | ||
| I don't talk slow to be mean. | ||
| That's how I've got to talk to you like NPR. | ||
| That's not how NPR talks. | ||
| Trump talks to people like it's real slow. | ||
| And it's not because he doesn't know that you don't already know it. | ||
|
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He's not going after you. | |
| He's doing the ends. | ||
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He's going after people that are unconscious and are in a sleep state. | |
| Sleep. | ||
| Sleep. | ||
| Come out of the sleep. | ||
| And I've never been scientific about all this. | ||
| Now that I'm 43 and doing this for 20-something years and seeing what's been effective telling the truth, I understand more now. | ||
| So Pacinic's all frustrated because he's all up there knowing how stuff works, been involved with stuff, and he's a real deal. | ||
| He's been involved in a lot of things. | ||
| He's all pissed because he's wanting to communicate with the government structure and get them to stop. | ||
| And that's fine. | ||
| I communicate with them, too. | ||
| I am communicating with the people because at the end of the day, that's where their power comes from. | ||
| I mean, I'm not saying Pacinic's wrong about stuff, but six, seven years ago, he was like, we need a revolution now, violent, let's do it. | ||
| I'm like, no. | ||
| You watch. | ||
| It's cultural. | ||
| We're going to win. | ||
| They want a violent. | ||
| Because they think they can defeat that. | ||
| We're going to be peaceful until they attack us. | ||
| And then, I don't take any pleasure if it's physical people, like killing dumbasses that work for the globalists. | ||
| That's like some dumb dog running off its back porch trying to bite you because you're walking down the alley. | ||
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You know? | |
| And you've got to kick the dog upside the head. | ||
| It keeps coming at you. | ||
| You just kind of go, oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| take up an old pole or something on the side of the alley and beat his brains out. | ||
| There's a dog all bleeding to death right there. | ||
| And it's like, yeah, that sucks, man. | ||
| I wouldn't do that. | ||
| That's the same deal. | ||
| I don't want to kill anybody. | ||
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What the fuck was that? | |
| What the goddamn fuck was that? | ||
| What was that? | ||
| What was that? | ||
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I don't understand what any of that means. | |
| All I know is that he's killed a fucking dog before! | ||
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And he said it came off someone's back porch, so it's someone's dog. | |
| That's a super specific made-up analogy! | ||
| That's why I implied that maybe... | ||
| He maybe killed a dog! | ||
| He might have. | ||
| He beat a dog to death! | ||
| I think that the analogy he was trying to make and failed... | ||
| What the f***? | ||
| What the fuck was that? | ||
| Well, I think what he wanted to say was... | ||
| Make me feel better, Dan. | ||
| I think it's like, I take no pleasure in, like, you see a dog with rabies that's hurting and dying on the street, and you've got to mercy kill it. | ||
| Or something like that. | ||
| Except he said, dumb dog. | ||
| He did. | ||
| Just like a dumb dog. | ||
| You know, like, you know, I mean, if you can't wake up, you're like a dumb dog that I gotta murder. | ||
| I gotta hit in the head with a pole. | ||
| I take no pleasure in murdering dumb people, but hey, sometimes you gotta murder dumbasses. | ||
| You know, that's no big deal. | ||
| You just murder them like a dog. | ||
| You murder dogs! | ||
| If you use the metaphor that he's making, he is saying sometimes you gotta kill people. | ||
| Sometimes you gotta kill dumb people. | ||
| I take no pleasure in it, but dumb people must die. | ||
| He just... | ||
| That's fucking nuts. | ||
| He's losing it. | ||
| That's wackadoo shit. | ||
| That's Leanne wackadoo level shit. | ||
| And you see how, like, lazily he's delivering this, too. | ||
| He's so fucking spun out of control because of this interview with Pchenik. | ||
| Like, it's all the other stuff that's going on in the world, this clear lawsuit about Pizzagate that's in the works, his Adderall money going away, the fact that they're looking into the bots that are promoting his website, which, even if there's no involvement with Russia, He's going to have to realize that that means all this newfound audience is fake. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| He doesn't actually have the popularity that he thinks he has. | ||
| A lot of it is automated traffic and shit like that. | ||
| So all of this is spinning in his head. | ||
| Now he's got Steve Pachenik on his show where he's like, alright, this is safe harbor. | ||
| This guy likes me. | ||
| We're gonna just spin some conspiracy yarns together and scare some people. | ||
| And fucking even Steve Pachenik won't play ball. | ||
| And now he's like, fuck, what do I do? | ||
| Imagine murdering people. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's... | ||
| Like, that interview with Pchenik has taken him to a violent bent. | ||
| Like, that's what is going on right there. | ||
| That whole thing is now he's responding to that the only way he knows how to with his ultra-male, we gotta murder people shit. | ||
| Yeah, it'll turn esoteric here in a second, but before it does... | ||
| That was fucking... | ||
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Nuts! | |
| He's got to start... | ||
| That was nuts even for Alex Jones. | ||
| I'm blown away by that nonsense. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| But, you know, he's kind of like a boat adrift at this point, and he's got to find something to hold on to, something to anchor. | ||
| Well, and do you remember the story of the prodigal son? | ||
| I do. | ||
| Right? | ||
| The son goes out after getting all of his inheritance before he deserves it, and then he loses all of it just partying. | ||
| And then his dad murders him like a dog. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You remember that part of the prodigal son? | ||
| It's important. | ||
| His dad didn't take pleasure in it. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He doesn't like it. | ||
| And his brother's like, what the fuck? | ||
| You're murdering my brother. | ||
| And he's like, dude. | ||
| He was prodigal. | ||
| He was prodigal as fuck. | ||
| Like, I don't know. | ||
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PAF. | |
| So like I said, he's a boat adrift. | ||
| And he has to anchor onto something. | ||
| And the only thing that he's been talking about that he... | ||
| It doesn't really relate back to things that he got slapped down by Pachanek about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is Nunez. | ||
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Right. | |
| And the wiretapping stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Who he calls Nunez. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he takes Devin Nunez. | ||
| And Nunez. | ||
| He uses him now as like, okay, I'm going to use him to steady myself. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So this next clip is about Nunez. | ||
| Nunez knows everything about this. | ||
| And I don't know enough about Nunez. | ||
| He's got some good voting records, some bad voting records. | ||
| I just, out of all the people, he's not a coward. | ||
| He also was on Trump's transition team. | ||
| Yup! | ||
| He also did not brief the House Intelligence Committee about his new information. | ||
| He instead went directly to the White House, had his talking points given to him by the Trump White House. | ||
| Not Trump, Steve Bannon, of course. | ||
| Because Trump, as we've already established, doesn't have Ivanka or Kushner there, which he's starting to lose his shit because he can't... | ||
| Communicate with people. | ||
| That's why Ivanka needs an office. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Speaking of what, I mean, like, not about that, but again, to the Nunez information stuff, that press conference that he did, to use Alex's terminology, I've reverse engineered it. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And in the next episode, it's going to be laid bare. | ||
| Oh, we're getting to... | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Man, you are teasing the fuck out of the next episode. | ||
| It's worth it. | ||
| But here we go. | ||
| Because they're now threatening to try to remove him. | ||
| They're saying he's a Russian agent. | ||
| They're coming after him because he's the one guy in that whole pantheon of cowards, other than Rand Paul, coming out and saying it's ridiculous, and he was called an agent of Putin. | ||
| You work for Putin. | ||
| You look at people like, Elijah Cummings, I mean, you know, give me a break, man. | ||
| The Democratic Party has been so controlled by the Russians during the Cold War that it's a joke, and then you've got the nerve to look at people like Nunes? | ||
| Who's just telling the truth and say he's an evil person? | ||
| So I'm not in some butt-kissing event for Nunes. | ||
| I just recognize courage. | ||
| Give me a break. | ||
| Give me a break. | ||
| Break me off a piece of that propaganda. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
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And I'm not. | |
| It's the same thing he does with Trump. | ||
| I'm not kissing Trump's ass. | ||
| He's just that great. | ||
| And I don't want to take credit for not kissing Trump's ass. | ||
| I just don't need to. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So in this next clip, he cucks out Steve Pachanek a little bit. | ||
| I don't know if he realizes he's doing it, but then... | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| It's the only thing he can do. | ||
| He does our third favorite thing, which is tell a story about going to dinner. | ||
| I don't like seeing anybody fall to this brainwashing. | ||
| I don't like seeing anybody buy into this stuff. | ||
| I don't feel powerful looking at Michael Moore, a total piece of crap, traitor to humanity, a total lying slug. | ||
| I feel bad. | ||
| And I'm not lecturing Pechenik. | ||
| You talk to these guys, not just him, I talk to these guys on and off air, you name it. | ||
| I am not. | ||
| People were higher up in the CIA than Pechenik. | ||
| There was the cucking. | ||
| I am not lecturing Steve Pechenik. | ||
| I mean, I talk to people higher up than Steve Pechenik. | ||
| On and off air, you name it. | ||
| Steve Pachanek is, you know, he's like a mid-tier guy that I don't need to lecture the mid-level guys. | ||
| Uh-uh, Steve Pachanek just doesn't know all the stuff I know. | ||
| And I think a lot of this sort of response indicates to me, if Steve listens to this show, he can't be happy with where Alex went after the interview. | ||
| There's no way Steve listens to the show. | ||
| If I were him, I would. | ||
| Maybe he got the gist later on. | ||
| From like an intern or something? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Who cares? | ||
| And they just are like, don't worry about that. | ||
| It's the big stuff, the big narratives, you know, the government. | ||
| Worry about that. | ||
| I fundamentally believe in broadcasting the truth everywhere. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And that you inform the public in general about liberty and that tyrants will disappear like phantoms at dawn, to quote Thomas Jefferson, or paraphrase him. | ||
| And it's not that I'm here saying I have all the answers. | ||
| I just instinctively have to try to sit there. | ||
| And, I mean, I walked into a place yesterday for dinner, and I had a couple of young, attractive ladies giggling and go, oh, it's Alex Jones, the guy that says your TV's watching you. | ||
| And then I realized that their lawyer husbands or boyfriends came over to the table right after that. | ||
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What? | |
| Well, Alex Jones, we watched you. | ||
| We were just talking about you today. | ||
| And I'm, oh, yeah, I'm sure you were. | ||
| See, the fact that I'm right is what makes me even funnier. | ||
| Because they have to make it a joke that I'm so right because, see, then they might have to do something that their TV's watching them. | ||
| Alex, Alex, Alex. | ||
| Alex, baby. | ||
| What? | ||
| You being right does not make you funny. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's not what we're laughing at. | ||
| Two young attractive ladies. | ||
| Hell yeah, baby. | ||
| Young attractive ladies came up to him not as an unusual occurrence. | ||
| Two young attractive women always come up to me. | ||
| It's de rigueur. | ||
| And then their lawyer boyfriends. | ||
| Or husbands. | ||
| Or husbands. | ||
| Which, as we all know, you can tell them by their Muslim headscarves. | ||
| Oh, sure, sure. | ||
| That's what all lawyers wear. | ||
| No, that's what trendies do. | ||
| Trendies wear in the Muslim headscarves. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| So in that, they were making fun of him, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In that story, they were mocking him. | ||
| If that happened, yes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That did not happen. | ||
| I think that maybe someone was like, hey, look, it's Alex Jones. | ||
| And that's it. | ||
| That's probably it, yeah. | ||
| By the way, not a story. | ||
| No. | ||
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No. | |
| Is there a point to that? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He's so right. | ||
| He's funnier when he's right. | ||
| He's so right that people have to make him into a joke. | ||
| He's not right. | ||
| He is a joke. | ||
| He's wrong about that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's so wrong about being right that he's a joke. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| He's a joke. | ||
| He's been wrong about countless things just today. | ||
| I can't say whether or not he's wrong about this next thing, but I do think that maybe the LSD he took kicked in right before this clip. | ||
| They're lawyer boyfriends. | ||
| They're lawyer boyfriends. | ||
| So you know they're high class. | ||
| I love the weird little details that he throws into this that just kind of... | ||
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It's a good restaurant he's going to. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| There's this whole... | ||
| Anytime you're lying, you wind up putting a lot more details in there than you need to. | ||
| But also, there's all these little psychological things that go into there where it's like, I would never speak to somebody who wasn't of a higher class. | ||
| Only the higher class people come up to me. | ||
| I go to these places where the higher class people live. | ||
| He's such a star fucker. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, it begs the question, like, how does he know that these are lawyers? | ||
| Right! | ||
| And he doesn't... | ||
| He very much implies that that was the end of the conversation. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, there's no... | ||
| Like, if he had a conversation with them, he would have told us all about that. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| And instead, it seemed like they kind of just laughed at him a little bit. | ||
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I think so. | |
| And then left. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the lawyers told me we watch your show. | ||
| We watch your show. | ||
| And then they laughed at him. | ||
| Look, do you understand the crushing pressure that exists to be Alex Jones right now? | ||
| I don't. | ||
| It's got to be fucking difficult. | ||
| I can't imagine the crushing pressure that Alex Jones is under right now. | ||
| Because all the 23 years he went ignored is coming back to haunt him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, before, no one gave a shit. | ||
| That's what we talked about earlier. | ||
| Now people are starting to pay attention. | ||
| They're like, oh, hey, fuck you! | ||
| Unfortunately, he spent 20 years building a case against him. | ||
| Yeah, and building up a very respectable, but not all that huge audience of real fringe weirdos. | ||
| Yeah, this is the thing that I think he had no idea. | ||
| Well, this is one of the things we've talked about. | ||
| Is that he doesn't know how to win. | ||
| No. | ||
| And he had no idea that he was hitching himself to the wagon of somebody who would win. | ||
| Like, that's the thing that really took him down. | ||
| Because if we are giving him even that base cunning, then he had to have latched onto Trump because Trump was a joke. | ||
| So he pulls out this guy who is a man after his own heart, pulling out nonsense left and right, saying bullshit. | ||
| He hitches his wagon to him, assuming that we can dovetail together. | ||
| We can lose together. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And that will give us both more of a platform to say the dumber shit that we have to say. | ||
| Now that he's won, now people have to engage with him. | ||
| Well, I mean, it's the same thing with what a lot of people have come out and said about the failed Obamacare repealing. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Where there were senators that came out, or, excuse me, House members, who came out and said, we pushed for this when Obama was in office. | ||
| Because we knew he would veto it. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| We knew it would never work. | ||
| Now we have a president who we know will pass it. | ||
| We can't posture like that. | ||
| Well, one of the most brutal things, one of the... | ||
| Republican said something absolutely... | ||
| It was like a one moment of clarity where he goes, you know, in the past eight years, I don't think we've ever done anything positive. | ||
| I don't think we've ever done anything that advances forward our ideas. | ||
| Just tearing things down. | ||
| We've just been the party who is trying to say no. | ||
| And if we don't do something positive, what are we here for? | ||
| That was... | ||
| The thing that, A, we've all been saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it seems like that's the first time he's ever even considered the possibility that he's a giant pile of garbage. | ||
| It's tough to look in the mirror. | ||
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Yeah, right? | |
| But my point is that Alex, I think, is like those senators, House members, but in this case, they accidentally passed the Obamacare repealing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He joined up with Trump because it's like, Trump is going to lose. | ||
| I'm going to say that he could destroy the globalists, but when he loses, I can say that he was cheated out of it, and then we can keep that narrative going in perpetuity. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| And as long as Trump isn't the president, he'll come on my show and say the exact same things that I say. | ||
| Or if Trump had done his whole news network like what the idea or the thing floated after that was, then... | ||
| Alex Jones would have had a syndicated show. | ||
| He might have been in charge of it. | ||
| He might have been on that network. | ||
| But unfortunately, his metaphorical Obamacare repealing passed. | ||
| And now he's like, oh shit. | ||
| He is not taking out the globalists. | ||
| It is fascinating because the more we live in this, the more it seems like Trump being elected was bad for everyone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Trump included. | ||
| Trump included. | ||
| No one on the planet, it turns out... | ||
| Putin. | ||
| Actually, well, except for Putin. | ||
| Putin's probably the only person. | ||
| Probably the only person. | ||
| Well, and white supremacists. | ||
| Well, and Le Pen and white supremacists, and of course. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But even then, other than a tacit encouragement to commit more violence, white supremacists aren't getting any of the shit that they want either. | ||
| No, but they're getting marketing opportunities, and they're probably getting... | ||
| The most American thing you can get. | ||
| Marketing opportunity. | ||
| I think they're also probably getting increased recruitment. | ||
| I would assume. | ||
| I would say so. | ||
| Or at least the ability to be more free with your idiotic nonsense. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And even if it's in the negative, even if it is against, the media talking more and more about people who have bigoted positions only emboldens people to be like, oh wait, I feel that way too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's almost like they are finally realizing what it feels like to be gay or trans and come out of the closet. | ||
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Dude. | |
| Like, do you know how more comfortable you are in your own skin when you don't have to hide who you are? | ||
| Okay, so Owen Schroyer and Leanne McAdoo did an interview with, I can't remember her name, but she used to be in the Pussycat Dolls. | ||
| OT and the Wax, as I like to call them. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| They did an interview with this gal who was in the Pussycat Dolls and left and is a Trump supporter. | ||
| Great. | ||
| And so they're talking to her, and she's describing the experience of realizing that she's conservative exactly like gay people talk about. | ||
| And it's like, I mean... | ||
| Can't you just make that one small connection? | ||
| Well, in her case, to be fair, she does talk about how she supports the LGBT community. | ||
| Oh, good for her! | ||
| Yeah, that's dumb. | ||
| It's a bigger issue for other people, but in her case, that's not... | ||
| You can't do both now. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Be conservative and support gay? | ||
| Yeah, you can't do both now. | ||
| If there's a full acceptance, then maybe we can go back. | ||
| If there's a full acceptance of the LGBT community, maybe you can go back and say, well, I am a fiscal conservative and also a person who accepts that. | ||
| But for right now... | ||
| All you are saying is that I am willing to marginalize millions and millions of people. | ||
| I am willing to watch them kill themselves so I can get tax breaks. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That's what you're saying. | ||
| Later on. | ||
| Later on, after all of this, all the bigotry in the world has gone away. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Then we can get back to how conservatism is fine. | ||
| So never. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Jordan, we got a couple more clips, and you got a show tonight, so let's get through these. | ||
| This is where shit gets esoteric. | ||
| This is a riddle, and it's just... | ||
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Answer me these questions three, Alex Jones. | |
| I mean, this is where he turns internal and is just... | ||
| Really discovers himself? | ||
| I don't know what's going on, but he's struggling. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And then everyone tries to climb that staircase to heaven. | ||
| So they can be over other people. | ||
| What the hell is that? | ||
| Because anybody that's been down in a valley at night with the stars out and the trees around you and a bonfire knows the valley is the stars. | ||
| You're already in the stars. | ||
| You're already in the universe. | ||
| You're on a planet beautiful and rich and beautiful beyond imagining and down in the valley is the highest point. | ||
| There's some poetry for you. | ||
| Let's see. | ||
| People keep thinking they can go up, up, up, but really all they're doing is going down, down, down. | ||
| Does that mean you don't become successful or have wealth? | ||
| Wealth is to protect yourself and take care of those you love and to build. | ||
| It's not so you can sit there like a peacock. | ||
| I can't live in a rich area. | ||
| I can't live around those people because on average they're so soulless. | ||
| There are some people that are nice. | ||
| But you can't live anywhere. | ||
| You live in a blue-collar area. | ||
| They're all freaked out about who's got more money, who's got whatever. | ||
| As if that's some symbol of who's got a bigger soul, who's got more will, who's got more strength. | ||
| What are you talking about, Alex? | ||
| What was that? | ||
| You're in the valley, and you realize the valley is the stars. | ||
| That might be part of the Dionysian church, the mystery religion. | ||
| I see a junior high... | ||
| A camp. | ||
| A junior high summer camp. | ||
| Everybody's sitting. | ||
| Everybody's sleeping in the dorm. | ||
| All of a sudden, one kid wakes up and goes, Guys, do you believe in God? | ||
| Do you believe there's a higher power? | ||
| And that's when this shit goes down, right? | ||
| I don't know if that kid's going to talk about not being able to live in rich neighborhoods. | ||
| I think that's exactly what that kid. | ||
| Because it's the one poor kid at the rich summer camp. | ||
| That's what's going on. | ||
| That is Alex Jones. | ||
| Alex Jones is the poor kid. | ||
| He got like a waiver to go to Camp Canna Cook. | ||
| And he showed up there. | ||
| Camp, fuck the poor. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, I went to a really rich Christian camp. | ||
| And I'm not from money. | ||
| I grew up poor. | ||
| I worked at a God camp for a month. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Let's not get into that. | ||
| It was brutal. | ||
| That's for another day. | ||
| This is fucked up, and it starts out fucked up, and phew, oh boy. | ||
| If I could slit my throat and pour my will out into humanity and die right now, that made us defeat these people, I would do it. | ||
| But here's the secret. | ||
| I'm not even that strong. | ||
| I have awareness of my will, though, in history, and that's why I have effect on them. | ||
| And if the people ever realize this, and the bushfires of liberty ignite, they're going to be... | ||
| Charging out of the mist individuals that will be a hundred times more effective than I've been. | ||
| Right now, I'm still waiting for them. | ||
| But I know it's coming. | ||
| And so the globalists should know this. | ||
| Trump is only the first level of this event. | ||
| It's going to get bigger. | ||
| It's going to get quicker. | ||
| It's going to get stronger. | ||
| We are the humans that built all this. | ||
| The elite believe because we built this, they're God, and they're going to cut us off. | ||
| You will then see what humans really do under stress. | ||
| Once we have a platform to build on. | ||
| You can't just manifest with your mind magically in a cave 10,000 years ago. | ||
| You could envision, though, and those dreams became what we have now. | ||
| We're now on a launch deck. | ||
| Looks like he knows the secret. | ||
| That's unlimited. | ||
| And the elites know that, and they're so jealous. | ||
| They're so angry. | ||
| They're so upset. | ||
| They don't know what to do because they're sitting around not even knowing how to use what they've got because they didn't develop it. | ||
| They're falling. | ||
| Even further than we are. | ||
| And that's why everything they use, we develop, turns into some nightmare because we've got bad people in control of those systems. | ||
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This is why he had to cut off Steve Pechenich. | |
| This is what he needed to fill his fucking time with. | ||
| I showed you on my notes. | ||
| I have just written in the largest possible letters. | ||
| Please go to therapy. | ||
| This is a therapy session. | ||
| Alex, you need analysis. | ||
| This is not good. | ||
| He is considering suicide right now. | ||
| That's really what he's doing. | ||
| I mean, it's sort of an artful expression of it, at least. | ||
| It is like, if I could give of my life essence to create the energy that's needed to stop the globalists, my sworn enemy, then I would do that. | ||
| That's not really a threat of suicide. | ||
| But it is violent language right after talking about murdering a dog. | ||
| I swear to God, this is Emily Dickinson. | ||
| He is Emily Dickinson-ing right now. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| I mean, the part about, like, this is only going to get worse and it's going to keep happening faster and faster. | ||
| I agree with him on that. | ||
| That's not Emily Dickinson, but... | ||
| No, but I agree with him on that in terms of the propaganda and the way the internet is radicalizing people and stuff like that. | ||
| You mean what he's doing? | ||
| Yeah, it's only going to get worse. | ||
| What he's doing is only going to get more insidious. | ||
| But that's what he's saying. | ||
| He's threatening the globalists that that's what's going to happen. | ||
| He just doesn't realize that he is the problem. | ||
| It's not this make-believe group of globalists. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, everybody thinks they're the hero of their own story. | ||
| I don't. | ||
| I think I'm a piece of shit. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| Yeah, I think I'm a side character in my own story. | ||
| This story is about... | ||
| I don't even know what it's about. | ||
| My cat, maybe? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| This is a story about you growing up in South Philly, right? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| Okay. | ||
| I don't know the rest of the words. | ||
| I never watched Fresh Prince. | ||
| Fresh Prince. | ||
| Anyway, this next and last clip is sort of where he ends off before handing the baton to the fourth-hour host. | ||
| And he's back. | ||
| D-Nights. | ||
| I think it's David Knight. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I can't remember. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| On Thursday, it was our boy Batman. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| John Rappaport. | ||
| Just talking more about vaccines being bad. | ||
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Great. | |
| He is the worst. | ||
| He is the worst. | ||
| He was talking about how the NIH is getting unfunded. | ||
| He's like, of course it is. | ||
| Great. | ||
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Ugh. | |
| Fuck you. | ||
| I hate everybody. | ||
| Fuck you, Rappaport. | ||
| Yeah, no kidding. | ||
| But anyway. | ||
| Go back to your fucking bushes, Batman. | ||
| Also, picture is still not hung up. | ||
| I can confirm that. | ||
| I was thrilled to see that picture still on the ground. | ||
| What do we need to do? | ||
| I think we could find him on Twitter. | ||
| I think we could find him on Twitter, right? | ||
| I'm going to find him on Twitter. | ||
| He doesn't have Twitter. | ||
| I bet he does. | ||
| I'll find him. | ||
| I'll tweet at him and we'll let you know next week. | ||
| We need that picture. | ||
| That is now my only goal. | ||
| Eventually, if we get beyond the picture, that's fine. | ||
| I want that picture hung up. | ||
| People in productivity circles like to talk about having actionable goals. | ||
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We can't solve the Alex Jones problem. | |
| We can't get that picture fucking hung up. | ||
| We can't sit around and say, we want to have a great podcast. | ||
| That's not an actionable goal. | ||
| What you can say is, I'm going to tweet at John Rappaport and ask him why he doesn't hang up my picture. | ||
| So I will do that. | ||
| Anyway, let's get to this last clip. | ||
| This is, again, he's now fallen back to Nunez, but it still has some of this esoteric language in it, and boy, he's wrong. | ||
| And now Nunez transcends from the realm of the normal man into the arena of the real man. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| This is fucking bananas. | ||
| And that's the arena that Donald Trump and many others are in. | ||
| And that's the arena that other people need to aspire to be part of. | ||
| Because when men start trying to be men again and actually stand up for what's good and honorable... | ||
| And women start trying to be men again. | ||
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No. | |
| Then we'll have a civilization. | ||
| Only when men start acting like real men again will we have a civilization. | ||
| I feel like historically that's not how it works. | ||
| Generally when men start trying to be real men again, they tear down civilizations. | ||
| Civilizations fall. | ||
| Yeah, isn't that how that works? | ||
| Pretty sure Rome happened. | ||
| Be that as it may, I mean it's good that that's where we're going to jump off because that's a perfect encapsulation of a lot of Alex's life philosophies. | ||
| That really is, yeah. | ||
| You must be real men. | ||
| Dude! | ||
| Dudes! | ||
| Let's all be dudes, bro! | ||
| His masculinity is so threatened by this hypothetical fake group of globalists, and he has to fight back against it. | ||
| I don't know what's going on in Alex Jones' world, but you're right, he needs to get therapy. | ||
| He needs to get therapy. | ||
| There's so much going on in the world. | ||
| You nailed this. | ||
| This was such a strange up and down of... | ||
| His emotional state. | ||
| Where he's going in life. | ||
| Like, this is crazy. | ||
| The interview falling apart and him turning really dark and fucked up at the end. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| It's connected. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| You're watching a psychodrama. | ||
| No, there's no doubt those two are connected. | ||
| It is a psychodrama in radio show form. | ||
| At least this episode. | ||
| And it's fascinating. | ||
| But when I was saying there's so much going on... | ||
| Yeah, right now there's a Prairie Home Companion, and then there's InfoWars in the two greatest what-the-fuck-is-happening shows right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| In terms of InfoWars, there's so much going on. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It's never been like this. | ||
| No, this is crazy. | ||
| They're part of an investigation into Russian espionage. | ||
| They're apologizing for Pizzagate. | ||
| They lost their funding. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| I read unsubstantiated reports that they just had to fire some people. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I don't know if that's true or not, but it seems to fit the narrative. | ||
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I mean, it does. | |
| Yeah, that is kind of what would make sense. | ||
| There's talk that within the next week, they could be shuttering business. | ||
| No! | ||
| I don't think that that's the case. | ||
| That's not possible. | ||
| That's wild internet speculation. | ||
| But with all of the chaos that's going on, things are going to get so exciting. | ||
| Alex Jones would, and I'm being 100% serious right now, Alex Jones would kill himself if InfoWars ended. | ||
| I'm being 100% serious, and I'm quoting Dido here, because I love Dido. | ||
| Oh my god, we learned so much about you. | ||
| He would go down with the ship. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| He won't put his hands up in surrender. | ||
| No. | ||
| There will be no white flag above his door. | ||
| Oh, no, no, no. | ||
| Even if, well... | ||
| The next line of that song is, I'm in love and always will be. | ||
| It doesn't quite match up, but the other three lines work. | ||
| I will say that, in my experience, he's a lot like a bird who will never fly away. | ||
| Or who only flies away. | ||
| I know. | ||
| He doesn't know where his home is. | ||
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I don't... | |
| You know what? | ||
| I'm wrong. | ||
| Here's more what I would say. | ||
| Whether or not Infowars itself, as we know it, dies, he will do a four-hour YouTube video every day. | ||
| He might just have to go back to his roots, as they say. | ||
| In his home, he will set up an iPhone, and he will do a YouTube show. | ||
| I can't imagine how expensive it is for him to do what he does now. | ||
| But he could do the exact same thing. | ||
| Pretty much. | ||
| For what we could pay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is minimal. | ||
| He might just do a podcast. | ||
| If InfoWars ends, he might do a podcast. | ||
| And right now, I am putting out the call, Alex Jones. | ||
| You could join us. | ||
| When InfoWars ends, come on our podcast. | ||
| Join the Knowledge Fight Network. | ||
| Join the Knowledge Fight Network. | ||
| Oh, also, speaking of which, we gotta get out of here. | ||
| But, one piece of big news. | ||
| You know how Alex has been talking about wanting to create more programming? | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| There is a new program. | ||
| Oh, no! | ||
| Is it a music show? | ||
| Nope. | ||
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Ah, fuck. | |
| K-Blaze is still out in the cold. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| But it is the Rob and Owen show. | ||
| It's Rob Dew and Owen Schroyer co-hosting a show. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| That sounds horrific. | ||
| It's one of the most unlistenable things I've ever heard. | ||
| That sounds truly horrific. | ||
| I listened to one episode and it was... | ||
| They have no chemistry. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| Owen Schroer seems to not want to be there. | ||
| Rob Dew is terrible on the camera. | ||
| It's oof. | ||
| If that's your first volley of new programming, buddy. | ||
| Hire us. | ||
| You've got to get it together. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| We've got a rapport. | ||
| If you want to hire us, Alex, you can find us at knowledgefight.com. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| You can also follow us on at knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And at knowledgefight.com, I want to give a little plug to this. | ||
| We have a living biography of Alex Jones in progress. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We're putting up little pieces of his personal life. | ||
| That sounds worse than this. | ||
| We are stealing little pieces of his personal life and putting it on the internet. | ||
| We're taking clips of him talking about his childhood and his life and creating a biography in real time. | ||
| Also... | ||
| There's a lot of content over there. | ||
| Go check it out. | ||
| And thanks to at FutureSlock for giving us a little bit of a shout-out on the AV Club. | ||
| That was pretty cool. | ||
| That is very nice. | ||
| Also, here we go. | ||
| Let's give a little shout-out to underscore OZ underscore underscore underscore who may or may not be listening to this now. | ||
| That is a solid Twitter handle right there. | ||
| I can't tell if you were making fun of us on Twitter or not, but... | ||
| Feel free to continue. | ||
| You said you were going to follow us on... | ||
| iTunes! | ||
| If you have, thank you very much. | ||
| If not, go suck a lemon. | ||
| Old school. | ||
| You are very defensive. | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| I have a very complicated relationship with having fans. | ||
| Also, if you want to email us, you can reach us at knowledgefight at gmail.com. | ||
| You got it! | ||
| Thank you guys so much for listening. | ||
| We'll see you soon for that episode that I've built up really, really hard. | ||
| Yeah, it's going to be a huge disappointment. | ||
| But in the meantime, let me ask you, Dan, what are we? | ||
| Just, I don't know, like a policy walk? | ||
| We're a couple of policy walks. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |