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April 3, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#26: March 30 (Special Report)

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about a Special Report Alex Jones released on March 30th. It was supposed to be about Democrats trying to take out Trump, but really it was just Alex getting on air drunk for over two hours and saying a bunch of horrible things. Topics covered include: A $54 million skull covered in diseased semen Alex Jones swearing for over a minute straight Alex Jones may or may not be thinking about selling his car How many ways are there to learn things?

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alex jones
37:28
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dan friesen
01:18:55
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jordan holmes
49:37
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jon bowne
02:26
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rob dew
00:41
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roger stone
00:16
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
Today we are here to do another episode of this here podcast about the life and times of Alex Jones and InfoWars and what have you.
jordan holmes
That sounds like the worst Dickens novel.
The life and times of Alex Jones.
dan friesen
What it really is is a folk history.
About our modern times.
The twist.
jordan holmes
Did he walk around all of Texas spreading and growing bigotry everywhere?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Bullshit.
He just spread bullshit like some sort of a liar Johnny Appleseed.
jordan holmes
You betcha.
dan friesen
Johnny Liar Seed is Alex Jones.
The twist of the show here.
jordan holmes
What's the twist?
dan friesen
It's like a chocolate and vanilla swirled ice cream cone, this twist.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
It is like Tony Hawk's finishing move.
Finishing move.
jordan holmes
I have no idea what is happening right now.
dan friesen
He had a kickflip McTwist.
jordan holmes
Did you just?
dan friesen
That was his special move in Tony Hawk 2. Okay.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
We're off track.
dan friesen
I know a lot about Infowars and Alex Jones in particular.
jordan holmes
I do not know anything about Alex Jones and Infowars at all.
dan friesen
And therein lies the fun.
Guys, today what we're going to be doing, generally what we do, is we have a day in the life of Alex Jones.
We take one day of the Alex Jones show and I find clips to bring to you, Jordan, and to you, our audience, and we get to enjoy them all together.
Today is a little different.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Today, we're going to be discussing a special report.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
Alex put out a two-hour-long special report last Thursday.
On March 30th.
You can find it up on YouTube.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I want to say this.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
It is a coincidence that I watched this.
jordan holmes
That is not...
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
That is not a thing!
dan friesen
I usually don't watch the special reports.
jordan holmes
And this is a coincidence.
dan friesen
I usually only watch the Alex Jones show.
jordan holmes
Like, this is a meet-cute, like you accidentally bumped into it at the grocery store, and you're like, oh, hey, what's your name?
dan friesen
I could have easily missed this, and thank God I didn't.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because it's some of the most crazy shit I've ever heard in my life.
It's astounding.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's ostensibly called Special Report with Alex Jones.
Democratic plan, battle plan, to remove Donald Trump from office.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So basically, he set out to talk about COG, the continuity of government stuff.
jordan holmes
I'm already a big fan of you saying he set out to do this, which implies that we're not getting anywhere near that.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It is mentioned.
Once or twice.
jordan holmes
Like the Y2K episode.
He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, Y2K.
Anyways, we're all gonna die!
dan friesen
I want to get to the episode and our breakdown, but I forgot we've got to get to our out-of-context drop.
alex jones
And I'm like, I'm getting directives, baby, from George frickin' Washington.
dan friesen
Hell yeah.
He was explaining how Putin doesn't tell him what to do.
He gets directives, baby.
jordan holmes
I'm getting directives, baby.
dan friesen
That should give you some sense of what's going on here.
jordan holmes
That is exactly what I say before I go down on a woman.
That's exactly what I say.
dan friesen
I tweeted about this, so I might as well let the cat out of the bag.
Alex is drunk for two hours in this episode.
He is fucking shithouse wasted.
jordan holmes
Alright, excellent.
dan friesen
There is no doubt about it.
He recorded this in the evening.
It's at like 9 o 'clock at night.
I'll give you the broad strokes.
jordan holmes
Alex has been drinking all day.
dan friesen
He's fucked up.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He wants to talk about how the government is going to usurp Trump, but he can't stay on mission.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Can't stay on target.
The first 15 minutes are boring as shit.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
He gets Roger Stone in, and they have an interview.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's bad.
dan friesen
Roger Stone leaves at about 50 minutes in, and Alex loses his shit.
So we're not going to talk much about the Roger Stone portion of the show.
Because, quite honestly, it's just the two of them doing, like, a wrestling shoot promo about, like, come at me, bitch!
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Like, Roger Stone's trying to flex on the House Intelligence Committee real hard.
He calls them pussies.
Stuff like that.
Which leads us to right around the 17-minute mark.
Alex Jones says this.
It's probably my favorite clip we've ever played on this show.
I don't know how anything is going to top it.
I've listened to this.
Conservative estimate 40 times.
Because it is amazing.
unidentified
Alright, alright.
jordan holmes
Here we go.
dan friesen
Here we go.
Strap it in.
alex jones
I am ready.
unidentified
I am more than ready.
alex jones
Let me say this right now.
Let me tell.
I'm not against gay people.
Okay?
I love them.
They're great folks.
But Schiff looks like the art type.
Archetypal cocksucker with those little deer-in-the-headlight eyes and all his stuff, and there's something about this fairy hopping around, bossing everybody around, trying to intimidate people like me and you.
I want to tell Congressman Schiff and all the rest of them, hey, listen, asshole, quit saying Roger and I, and I never used cussing in 22 years, but the gloves are off.
Listen, you son of a bitch.
What the fuck's your problem?
You want to sit here and say that I'm a goddamn fucking Russian?
You get in my face with that, I'll beat your goddamn ass, you son of a bitch.
You piece of shit.
You fucking goddamn fucker.
Listen, fuckhead.
You have fucking crossed the line.
Get that through your goddamn fucking head.
Stop pushing your shit.
You're the people that have fucked this country over and gang raped the shit out of it and lost an election.
So stop shooting your mouth off, claiming I'm the enemy.
You got that, you goddamn son of a bitch?
Fill your hand.
I'm sorry, but I'm done.
You start calling me a foreign agent.
Those are fucking fighting words.
Excuse me.
dan friesen
That's art.
alex jones
Oh, God!
dan friesen
He cusses like an eight-year-old.
jordan holmes
Did he just discover how the word fuck works?
dan friesen
Listen up, you fuckity fuck fuck.
jordan holmes
Fuck fuck, motherfucker fuck!
The fact that he, one, can't pronounce archetypal.
dan friesen
Archetypial.
jordan holmes
And two, he goes straight to...
Cocksucker.
I have nothing against gay people.
They're great people.
Everybody's a cocksucker!
A fucking cocksucker!
unidentified
Fuck, fuck, fuck!
dan friesen
This fairy thinks he can intimidate us.
jordan holmes
Does he not understand words?
dan friesen
I think he doesn't understand how hateful words are.
Especially his words.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Fuck, do I love that though.
I almost want to play it again.
It's so good.
Guys, just rewind the podcast.
Listen to it again.
It's so good.
I'm going to get that tattooed on my arm.
jordan holmes
That whole thing?
Boy, you're going to need some detailed work on that.
dan friesen
Or I'm going to memorize it and try and enter a speech tournament.
jordan holmes
Pretend you're in high school all over again and just walk in there?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's too good.
dan friesen
That clip should be an indication of where we're starting.
jordan holmes
I haven't cussed for 20 years.
And then just a non-stop stream of invective.
Thrown around like an idiot.
dan friesen
Listen up, you goddamn cocksucking motherfuckers.
Fuck shit.
jordan holmes
God, you're the ones who fucked this country up.
I don't need that bullshit.
Don't call me a Russian fucking agent.
Fuck you.
unidentified
Fuck, fuck.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Fucking fuck.
dan friesen
I don't know if I have the clip of him saying this because I think it was surrounded by nothing, but he is like, I'm sorry if kids were listening.
What a dick.
So he's drunk.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, he's definitely drunk.
That's not coming from a place of mental sobriety right there.
dan friesen
Absolutely not.
After this, Roger Stone is sitting there while he's on this...
jordan holmes
This is while Roger Stone is there?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Because Roger Stone started...
I cut up the beginning part where he's like, Adam Schiff is a pussy!
And that's sort of what led Alex down the road to all this...
Fucking threatening talk.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But Roger Stone's response is just, I don't think I've ever been involved in a campaign where we've questioned someone's patriotism.
unidentified
Like, bro, come the fuck off it.
dan friesen
You're calling Hillary Clinton a Chinese agent every time you're on the fucking show.
He's questioned Barack Obama's legitimacy.
jordan holmes
But she's a patriotic Chinese agent.
Nobody's questioned how patriotic she is.
It's just that she's patriotic for China.
Isn't that crazy?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's pretty crazy.
jordan holmes
I love these guys.
They are so...
unidentified
Stupid.
dan friesen
So crazy.
jordan holmes
So bad.
And it's all of them.
Every time somebody finally receives what it is that they are doing, they just lose their shit, and they can't make that small connection from like, oh, I feel this way when somebody says this.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
I wonder if other people feel this way when I say this.
They just can't do it.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
There's just that tiny little jump.
All you have to do is stop for one second and then be like, oh, I've learned empathy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, it's insane.
dan friesen
Meanwhile, later on, we're going to get into Alex really going hard about how everyone hates him because he loves everyone.
Oh, boy.
So keep that empathy argument in mind for later.
jordan holmes
So good.
dan friesen
We just listened to a minute.
Plus of Alex swearing and running his mouth, which is followed up by this.
alex jones
I'm not a guy that shoots his mouth off, but man, if that asshole is sitting there calling me a Russian agent, Rand Paul had a lot of guts to just walk out of there.
I mean, it's an American.
It is so insulting to hear, I'm an agent of a foreign power when all I do is defend this country against globalists, and we've been sold out.
It pisses me off, man.
And I used to tell you, settle down.
Settle down for months bitching.
And now I get it.
It's like something fundamental.
unidentified
Well, and where is Mitch McConnell?
roger stone
Because disparaging the character of a senator is a violation of the rules.
dan friesen
This is in reference to John McCain talking about Rand Paul.
unidentified
I don't want them to violate the rules.
jordan holmes
We would never insist that Russians infiltrate our government in order to get the bad guys out.
That's definitely not violating rules.
I would hate it if we violated rules.
Everybody needs to go one by one down that little, you know.
dan friesen
It's not like we have on air repeatedly said that we're part of and support a soft coup against our government.
jordan holmes
It's not like we don't support the most corrupt administration.
In the history of the United States.
dan friesen
So, hold on.
I just needed to give the context.
This is about John McCain saying that Rand Paul is acting in Russia's best interest, saying he's an agent of Russia on the Senate floor.
And they're like, that's against the rules.
And then they get to this.
roger stone
I guarantee you that if this were some conservative questioning the patriotism of some liberal...
Believe me, the Senate would be in high...
alex jones
Remember, Pocahontas got her thing questioned and the senator got censured.
unidentified
Exactly right.
alex jones
And she should have been because she broke the rules.
dan friesen
The rules.
So important.
I really hate it.
I hate the calling Elizabeth Warren Pocahontas.
jordan holmes
Maybe he was actually talking about Pocahontas, though.
That's entirely possible.
dan friesen
Was she ever censured on the Senate floor?
jordan holmes
I haven't read that, but who knows?
dan friesen
That was in the sequel.
No one watched.
That was in Pocahontas 2. Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
So this next clip gives us a little bit of insight into why Alex might be this drunk.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because we've watched his life fall apart.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Over the past couple months.
jordan holmes
This has been a strange thing.
When we first started doing this, we were like, ah, this is just going to go on the same way it has for 20 years.
And this has just been a documentation of a man falling into pure and abject misery.
dan friesen
He's hitting more sort of roadblocks and hazards than Mr. Magoo.
Like, he's just, he's blindly stumbling through, like, he thinks he's being strategic, but then he's like, oh, nope, nope, you fucked up.
Here, your ads are gone now.
jordan holmes
Whoops.
dan friesen
So he got another piece of bad news clearly right before this, which I'm going to theorize started his drinking binge.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I'll let him get to it in what I'm going to describe as one of the saddest sales pitches I've ever heard.
Roger Stone is on Skype for this entire thing.
Doesn't say anything.
He's just silent in the background, like some sort of floating head.
What's the name of that guy who would give them missions on Power Rangers?
jordan holmes
Zordon?
dan friesen
Zoltan, maybe?
jordan holmes
No, not Zoltan.
dan friesen
Okay, yeah, that's someone else.
jordan holmes
Zardoz?
No, that's a different one.
dan friesen
Whatever his name is, that's what Roger Stone looks like.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Alex Jones is giving this pitch.
alex jones
Despite their algorithms, this is going viral to hundreds of thousands per channel.
We used to do millions, but they're blocking us.
Go on your own Facebook page.
Go on your own whatever.
Tell folks right now, tune in to Alex Jones and Roger Stone.
This is the information they don't want you to have.
Infowars.com forward slash show has our own feed if they cut this out or block it.
Infowars.com forward slash show.
Retweet at RealAlexJones.
Whatever.
We're in a war, folks.
I am totally committed to this.
So is Roger Stone.
We're moving forward.
And just understand that I'm up here at 927.
I'm not bitching.
Wild horses, you know, like Rolling Stone says, couldn't drag me away.
But I'm so honored to be here.
But just understand, it's people shopping at Infowarsstore.com on the amazing, game-changing nutraceuticals and supplements we have, like X2.
Roger, I'm going to go back to you just a moment.
Let me just point out to folks.
It was four years ago that we were putting out iodine supplements that you now see in stores everywhere.
Because iodine is a good halogen.
Fluoride and bromine and bromide are the bad ones.
They're in everything.
And because we had people basically doing industrial sabotage to block us, the DEA controls iodine because it can be used to make a bunch of stuff.
You name it.
Everybody sees Breaking Bad.
It's what you use to make everything.
The point is, though, it's a legal element.
You can have it.
Okay?
And the way we put it in palm oil, it's not used for anything illegal.
But to get the crystals from deep earth mining, that's something that only...
Drug companies, the Pentagon, because it's also used strangely enough in nerve gas, but whatever.
It's really important.
A drop of real iodine will eat through concrete, like Alien Blood in the 1970s movie.
That's not real, but this is.
dan friesen
What is fucking going on?
At this point, we haven't gotten to really the bad news portion of it yet.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
But you're getting the sense of, like, this is a drunk, rambly man.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
You're just going on with, like, iodine is a precursor for methamphetamines, but we put it in palm oil, so it's okay.
jordan holmes
It's not dangerous.
I don't know why they use it in poisons.
Anyways, one drop of this stuff will murder everybody like the aliens in 1970s.
dan friesen
But it's the good halogen.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is, you know, the DEA.
When does it just become...
dan friesen
Pretty soon.
Pretty soon.
We'll get there.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So the clip goes on.
alex jones
So powerful that when it's organically through gas, through Russian patent that we got, we're all Russian agents.
My God, it's Russian connection.
Just like NASA's rockets go up on Russian boosters.
We have it.
We've had this four years.
I've had some of the biggest companies out there come and try to buy it from us.
And...
They wanted us to then be able to just put it in shampoo, but no longer put it on ourselves.
I probably should have done it, but the point is I didn't do it.
They've now gone because they use oil drilling companies.
There's only two states in the U.S. that actually have this.
They hit it at 7,000 to 12,000 feet.
Natural gas is at 15,000.
It's a distillate or a derivative or something else they hit.
Sometimes like oil is at 6,000 feet.
They get that, a little side shoot, and the natural gas is super deep now.
On our own property, we've got 15,000 foot deep wells.
Coal putting us out of business.
We don't make so much money off of it.
Whatever.
Coal's for everybody.
So I'm for it.
We're four oil companies, but our family has gas wells and coal knocks us out.
jordan holmes
What is he fucking talking about?
dan friesen
Fair warning.
This sales pitch is eight minutes long.
jordan holmes
This is insane!
dan friesen
He still hasn't gotten to the bad news portion of it, too.
unidentified
And Stone is just...
dan friesen
Staring.
He's taking a powder.
jordan holmes
He's just staring into the camera.
dan friesen
Into the middle distance.
unidentified
Yes, absolutely.
jordan holmes
Does he at least walk on and off the screen from time to time?
dan friesen
You can't tell because most of the time the camera's on Alex and he's just giving an impassioned, now listen to me, here's the deal.
jordan holmes
Distillative, it's 6,000 feet, it's 12,000 feet.
alex jones
Coal's probably ruining it, but I love coal.
jordan holmes
Coal's for everybody.
dan friesen
My family has natural gas wells, but I still love coal.
I don't care if my family makes money because coal is for everybody.
jordan holmes
He's reminding me of Patton Oswalt's Dr. Pepper bit, where he's falling asleep and then waking up in the middle of the story.
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
Oh, God.
dan friesen
And this is maybe 35 minutes into the two hours.
And...
I have documented evidence that he was drinking throughout the two hours.
jordan holmes
Yes, you tweeted out the picture.
dan friesen
I found a picture of a sneaky cup.
jordan holmes
Dixie cup right there.
dan friesen
You can find that on our Twitter, and I also later will be playing the audio that made me realize that he's drinking, because when Roger Stone's video is on, you can hear him slurp.
You can hear a gulp sound effect into the mics.
Now, I want to be totally clear.
We're drinking champagne.
jordan holmes
Right.
No, and we're upfront about it.
dan friesen
The difference is we're honest about it, and we're not misaligning every minority group.
So, we're not...
jordan holmes
One of those two things is more important than the other, but we're doing both.
dan friesen
They work together to make us in the clear for drinking on our podcast, as opposed to Alex's secret drinking.
And trying to get everyone to be scared of Muslims.
unidentified
And screaming, fuck you, you fucking cocksucking fairies!
Fuck, fuck, fuck, fuck!
jordan holmes
I don't even care.
dan friesen
I've never been drunk enough.
jordan holmes
He's turning into drunk Tom Waits.
That's what he's doing.
dan friesen
I think Tom Waits would be more pleasant.
jordan holmes
Tom Waits would be way more pleasant.
dan friesen
Alright, let's see if we can get to this bad news.
alex jones
They're getting $100,000 a month.
You know, family gets like $5,000 a month.
But side issue is how the economy works.
I'm glad.
I want America to be back on.
It doesn't bother me.
I've never gotten that.
I don't want money anyways.
But as long as I know about oil and gas, a lot of families that are petroleum geologists and you name it.
I think most of the families have done that after they got out of the military.
It's kind of a family business.
But what I'm getting at here is, after all this is Texas, is that we have the last shipment coming in.
That we're about to sell out and one more shipment's coming in at 20,000 bottles.
It normally lasts five, six months.
And right now, they found out that we were buying it all up.
And it's more of the political hits, man.
It was $3.3 million last year on Google Ads.
Profit to then put the company to fund things.
We have the video.
We'll play it in a moment.
We'll go back to Roger.
We'll play it in a moment.
We'll go back to Roger.
And I want to play the senator attacking Roger.
And so...
They try to shut us down getting the distillate from seaweed that's still DEA controlled because it's 999.
It's not 99999999 like this.
And in chemistry, you want the 9999 out to infinity, basically.
You do?
jordan holmes
That's almost 100.
alex jones
I'm going to give media matters run by the globalists and Soros.
The Democrats admit they're not trying to get us banned off Google entirely.
Not just AdRoll.
We don't want to.
But behind the scenes, they've even had...
In fact, my people are like, look, leave it alone.
We're probably going to fix it.
Don't make an issue.
I'm going to make an issue.
Iodine's an element.
You've got the best type.
The other stuff's bound as garbage.
It'll hurt you.
This is incredible stuff.
It's helping everybody.
It's helped me.
And I don't want to get into the whole back story.
I will if I have to, but this may be the last shipment we get of this.
Four years has been a good run.
Nobody else has got deep earth crystal sources.
I don't even have to plug this for it to sell out.
It'll just come in, but I'm still 30% off and on Biotrusalenium for the mustard seed.
dan friesen
Yeah, so we can cut the rest of that off.
jordan holmes
My people have told me, don't worry about this.
We'll probably get it fixed.
Nope!
I'm going to scream about it!
dan friesen
I don't know which side I'm going to come down on and believe.
I think that there's probably just a market turn slightly and that they're trying to charge him more.
For it?
unidentified
You think so?
jordan holmes
Is that your conspiracy theory on this one?
dan friesen
Well, no, that's my Occam's razor explanation.
The conspiracy theory is his version where he's saying his suppliers are being threatened and shit like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not true.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's definitely not true.
dan friesen
You know what?
We do have to listen to the rest of this clip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I thought that we could just cut it.
We have to listen to the rest of this because that's where it gets into people being threatened.
jordan holmes
How do we go from iodine...
Being deep earth crystals that he needs.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Why do we need deep earth?
dan friesen
The distillate.
jordan holmes
Why do we need the deep earth crystals?
Can you answer me that, Batman?
dan friesen
That's where you get the purest iodine.
Why would you need the- The good halogen.
jordan holmes
Why would you need the purest iodine?
Do you think anybody would notice?
One, one, it doesn't.
It doesn't do anything.
It's all bullshit.
dan friesen
It'll kill you.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It's not even regulated by the FDA, what he's selling.
Why not just put fake iodine in there?
dan friesen
He actually does get into that.
It's because he loves everybody.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
That comes up towards the end of this.
jordan holmes
Oh, that makes sense then.
dan friesen
But look, let's just dive back into this sales pitch clip where he gets into like...
It's a pretty fucked up thing about people getting threatened.
jordan holmes
It's like homeopathic medicine where they're like, hey, we have to get the purest of dandelion leaves.
We can't get the shit you just find growing in the sidewalk.
dan friesen
And the only place to find them, deep earth.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
It's way down there.
jordan holmes
Don't you know the good dandelions grow downwards?
That's obvious.
Everybody knows this.
unidentified
Duh.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Duh.
alex jones
Yeah, they're like a horse and carriage, but that funds us Roger Stone's book.
$9.95 Trump 2020 shirts.
We make like $4 or $5 to fund our operation.
I mean, I'm not complaining.
I had some behind-the-scenes conversations with Roger and Korsi today.
It's not just us.
It's Daily Caller.
It's everybody.
They're coming after Trump.
And I'm not bitching.
I wanted to fight them.
I wanted to win.
I wanted to take them on.
jordan holmes
You wanted to in the past tense.
alex jones
When you get Roger Stone's book and give it to somebody that doesn't know the truth, or you get a t-shirt and wear it in public, or you get X2, which you and your family need to begin with, you know, them demonizing me and lying about me gets me angry.
But when I've got a really good product, and it's not just with the iodine, it's another big national manufacturer that's one of the top organic brand names said...
Yeah, you private-labeled our stuff, and we appreciate you, but we just got threatened.
I mean, I had a top CIA guy on two weeks ago.
dan friesen
This is obviously Larry C. Johnson.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was not a top CIA guy.
dan friesen
No, he's a discredited, rumor-monger, race-baiter, horrible piece of shit.
jordan holmes
He is, in essence, an Infowars guest.
That's the other way to shorten, that's the shorthand for that.
dan friesen
So he does not call him out by name, but here's what happened with Larry C. Johnson.
He's about to get cucked out by Alex.
alex jones
Oh, no!
And I can't even say his name.
I talked to him today, and he said, listen, I can't come on anymore.
They're threatening my business and my family.
This guy was a section chief.
And you're sitting there talking to a guy that did stuff all over the world, but they're threatening him so bad for coming on and supporting Trump.
He's rolling over.
And it's like, it makes you feel really cold.
It makes you feel alone.
And I'm not saying he's not a man and not tough.
It's just like, I'm not giving up.
Neither is Roger.
jordan holmes
But this pussy.
alex jones
Death is rolling over to these people.
And, you know, it pisses me off when they are.
I've got a lot of tentacles.
You know, I've known they're going to attack us.
I've grown a lot of tentacles.
dan friesen
He's like Cthulhu.
jordan holmes
And I fuck Japanese girls.
What else do you do with a lot of tentacles?
dan friesen
But you see that where he's starting down a line of thought and then goes to a whole new one.
unidentified
It's gone.
dan friesen
This is the behavior of a really drunk person.
I've been this guy.
jordan holmes
I got a lot of tentacles.
dan friesen
A hundred times in my life.
jordan holmes
At the end of this podcast, I am this guy.
dan friesen
I've been this guy so many times, but I've been smart enough not to be on a race-baiting political talk show that I have started.
While I'm that drunk.
jordan holmes
I feel like that's not intelligence.
I don't know.
Maybe you would be if somebody gave you the chance.
Did you ever consider that?
dan friesen
But here's the other thing.
They don't cover any new topics in this two-hour broadcast.
jordan holmes
Why?
Why would they?
dan friesen
But there's no reason to have done it in the first place.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
This is only bad for them.
jordan holmes
It's an infomercial.
Clearly, he set out to make this a pure sales pitch.
Well, I'm using your language now.
He set out to do a thing, and instead of doing that thing, he fucking did insane shit.
dan friesen
I think there was still a part of him that thought, like, alright, we are gonna cover this COG shit.
We'll get a lot of plugs in on the way.
I'll scare people that we won't have iodine anymore.
And then it just...
Gotta cuck out Larry Johnson.
jordan holmes
Who is threatening Larry Johnson?
dan friesen
No one.
jordan holmes
This is made up.
Why would anybody threaten Larry Johnson?
dan friesen
It's totally made up.
jordan holmes
Or maybe Larry Johnson just went, this is not good, and I don't want to be associated with this anymore.
dan friesen
I think that those negative parts of Larry Johnson's past, a lot of people had forgotten about.
And the fact that he's not allowed on cable news shows anymore because of him being discredited has made people just sort of forget, and he doesn't get tweeted at a lot, he doesn't get a lot of bad publicity.
He goes on InfoWars.
And all that stuff comes back up.
jordan holmes
Oh, does it?
dan friesen
I'm going to guess he got a ton of really negative tweets of people being like, you're a liar and a race baiter.
unidentified
Really?
dan friesen
The fuck is wrong with you?
unidentified
Maybe.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine that.
dan friesen
I know there was an article about him on Media Matters, so there was some attention.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because of that?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
I was going to say, because I still kind of feel like you are the only person that watches InfoWars.
dan friesen
Me and whoever David Brock is employing on Media Matters.
unidentified
I know.
jordan holmes
I know.
I swear there's a part of me that's like, Nobody else has ever actually watched this show.
And this is just some weird kind of experiment that Stanford is doing to try and drive you insane.
dan friesen
Oh no, I'm in on the experiment.
This is about you.
jordan holmes
This is about, oh god damn it!
dan friesen
You're the test subject.
jordan holmes
I knew I was going to get caught someday.
dan friesen
So yeah, I think that's what happened.
Larry Johnson is having his past brought back up to him.
He doesn't like it.
So Alex is asking him to come back on the show.
He's like, eh, you know what?
That was negative for me.
I don't want to do it.
jordan holmes
I'm going to fade into obscurity.
dan friesen
Alex can't handle that sort of thing and says, like, clearly he's being threatened.
The globalists must have gotten to it.
Then meanwhile, he can repackage that to prove that he and Roger Stone are super big men and strong.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Because they're shadowboxing with a non-existent enemy.
The globalists aren't trying to get them.
And it's really easy for them to yell at the globalists.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but let me tell you, let me posit this theory to you.
Alright?
They're finally, they seem to be going down.
Look, just because the globalists haven't turned their eye on Alex Jones in the past does not necessarily mean they are not turning their Sauron-esque eye on him now.
dan friesen
Also, this week he has accused them of being of Transylvanian stock.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Then in that case...
Alright, I don't want to ask this question because I fear the answer.
dan friesen
Alright, go ahead.
jordan holmes
Does he think Transylvania's real?
dan friesen
Transylvania is real.
It's a part of Romania.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, you know what I mean.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know what I mean.
dan friesen
I know what you mean, and the answer is yes.
jordan holmes
You know he doesn't...
Here's the thing.
He does not know that Transylvania is a real place.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But he believes that the Transylvania is a real place.
dan friesen
He thinks Transylvania is a country, probably.
He thinks that Transylvania metaphorically exists, as in the world of the Dark Lord Dracul.
jordan holmes
Exactly, exactly.
But not Vlad the Impaler, if you will.
dan friesen
Right, right.
So anyway, let's finish up this clip so we can get on to greener pastures.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
alex jones
And then they're chopping them off right in front of me.
dan friesen
Those are the tentacles.
alex jones
And I'm sitting there, and I mean, you know.
I could have sold out to them.
Who wants power over people and be part of this crap of cowards?
I know I'm better than them.
Just like some bully when I was 12 years old that already beat me up three or four times when I finally hit puberty says, I'm going to kick your ass outside.
And you know what?
I kicked his ass and I bashed his head in.
I think she might have put him in a coma and a lot of other people, but the point was he asked for it.
And you know what?
At the end of the day, that guy might have been six feet tall.
Flip, he was flunked three grades, might have weighed 250 pounds.
He thought he was going to kick the ass, a 140-pound person.
I crawled on top of him, and I knocked his teeth out.
And that's what it comes down to.
Look, I may die trying, but you get in a fight with me, man.
It's going all the way, all the way.
dan friesen
He better not find out about our show.
Also, did you notice that the phrasing in there really strongly implies that he's put multiple people into coals?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Now, here's the only thing.
Normally, I would say, oh, he's just exaggerating and telling a bullshit lie about that.
The strange thing there was that that really long pause, like suddenly he got introspective about it and had one moment in his brain where he's like...
Oh, maybe I shouldn't have done that.
dan friesen
Maybe this is not the right road to go down because it makes me look like a monster.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Maybe telling people that I beat a man and put him into a coma is not a good idea.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, on the one hand, he was being bullied, according to his story.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And I don't disagree that someone should stand up to a bully.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
I don't think you should be proud if you put that bully then in a coma.
jordan holmes
I think it's probably a bad thing.
dan friesen
Well, it also, the way he describes it is a strong, strong indication that he has no ability to control his temper.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's saying that he beat him, like, got on top of him and knocked his teeth in and was proud that he put this guy in a coma and then theoretically more people in a coma and that led to lawsuits being put against his dad.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
So, like, that's...
That's fucked up.
jordan holmes
That's insanely fucked up.
That has the ring of, like, a hulk-out situation where his mental illness, which we don't know what it is, we cannot diagnose it, but if it is not there, then we're insane.
Like, if there is not something mentally wrong, or not wrong, but abnormal, with that man, I quit.
I quit.
Every idea of normal or seen I have, if it is also applied to him, I am wrong.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And again, that's, I mean, just in this particular instance, it's again that, like, it's real toxic masculinity.
It says glorifying and fetishizing of violence as, like, rites of passage.
And stuff like that, and I think it's incredibly stupid.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
But you're a cuck, so.
dan friesen
True.
Total beta cuck.
But you know who aren't cucks?
jordan holmes
Who aren't cucks?
dan friesen
All the scary people who listen to Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
alex jones
In closing, I've talked to a lot of people.
And it's not these agencies and groups don't reach out and don't do things for PR purposes.
It's because they're risking their lives even talking to me.
And about 80% of the CIA, all the guys that do the killing, the analysts aren't bad either.
There have been a lot of them, like Larry C. Johnson and others that have spoken out.
But the guys that do the killing are 90% for Trump, 80% of the agency, and it's the big Maybe that's bad.
jordan holmes
Maybe it's bad that the guys who do the killing love Trump.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Don't you think if the guys who do the killing love a guy, it's generally because they're going to do more killing?
dan friesen
Well, in his conception, too, like, if you really break it down, I don't know statistically what the ratio of those who kill and those who don't are in the CIA.
jordan holmes
I would hope it's low on the kill side.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Although, you know, it is one of those things where now that they have drone strikes, frankly...
Everybody is a murderer at this point.
dan friesen
Well, would you say maybe 50-50?
jordan holmes
No.
I would say there's no way that the support structure is equal to the people doing the killing.
dan friesen
I don't think he's including drones in the doing the killing.
jordan holmes
No, but that's what I'm saying.
If you've ever seen a spy movie, there's like one spy...
dan friesen
God damn it, Jordan.
Give me a number.
We've all seen movies.
jordan holmes
80-20.
dan friesen
80-20 does the killing?
jordan holmes
20 does the killing.
dan friesen
20 does the killing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So now 90% of those who...
jordan holmes
God damn it, we've all seen movies.
dan friesen
Sorry.
jordan holmes
You got real mad at me.
dan friesen
Alex's drunk rage is channeling through me.
So 90% of that 80% that does the killing support Trump.
jordan holmes
No, the 20% does the killing.
So 90% of the 20% does the killing.
dan friesen
So then in order for all of it to equal 80%, right?
All of it to equal 80%, but that has to mean...
That more than 90% of that 80%, and not more than 90%, it's still got to be like 75% of that 80% in order to compensate.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because 20% would be, who cares?
Let's not get into math.
jordan holmes
Your math is really struggling here.
dan friesen
It is.
I should have prepared that a little bit.
But be that as it may, his argument that 90% of the people who do the killing support Trump and 80% of the total support Trump means that a vast majority of the analysts also support Trump.
jordan holmes
Cannot be possible.
dan friesen
These numbers are fake.
jordan holmes
Cannot be possible.
dan friesen
So I don't remember what this clip is, but it...
alex jones
I mean, that's what scares them, is that I talk to folks that are all over the different Special Operations Command, everything, even up to major generals who might have been on the fence before.
jordan holmes
Flynn.
alex jones
They're not for not having prosperity, and the Democrats trying to kill prosperity, the Republicans, saying we want to bankrupt things.
To prove Trump's wrong, that's even getting mercenaries to go, okay, I'm done.
jordan holmes
What the hell is your problem?
Pause that.
How is it possible?
How is that possible that you make that idiotic claim?
Because, like Trump said, I'm going to let Obamacare fail.
dan friesen
Intentionally.
jordan holmes
Intentionally, right?
dan friesen
Because he can't have his way.
jordan holmes
You can't say that Democrats are doing that because that's...
Like, they're not.
There's zero even slight inclination.
dan friesen
Well, his argument would be that the Democrats did it in the first place and this is just the natural...
jordan holmes
That's a nonsense argument.
I refuse.
I refuse.
dan friesen
It's at very least cowardly.
jordan holmes
That's intentional.
That has to be an intentional lie.
dan friesen
Well, we talk about...
I mean, hey, now I'm the one who's arguing it's not intentional.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
No, it is intentional.
Because he always talks about this prosperity stuff and he talks about...
The Small Business Optimism Index.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's the highest it's ever been since 1984.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Thanks to Trump.
I looked into that finally, and I found the statistics that he's probably going off of, because they're the official statistics.
jordan holmes
It turns me on when you do research.
dan friesen
From the National Federation of Independent Businesses.
The Small Business Index.
These are the February statistics.
jordan holmes
The NFIB.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I don't believe that the March statistics...
jordan holmes
I mean, I know a lot about it, so I shorten it.
I understand.
It's no big deal.
But you should tell our listeners what this is all about.
dan friesen
So they have, I think it's like 20-something statistical points that they analyze of small businesses, like their plans to increase employment, plans to make capital outlays, plans to increase inventories, current inventory, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Like all of these things, and that's how they assess...
How businesses are doing and how they think they're going to be doing in the future.
In February, the Optimism Index dropped.6 points, but it still is at a really high 105.3, which is actually...
jordan holmes
That's really good, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, and if you look at the numbers around the election, they shot up from like 98 to 105.
Because of Trump's, like, we're going to get rid of the fact that you have to pay for your employees' insurance.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Things like that.
That makes businesses optimistic.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So it's not necessarily...
unidentified
Not people.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
No.
Employees are very pessimistic.
jordan holmes
Very, very not optimistic.
dan friesen
No, because they want insurance.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's good to have.
dan friesen
And they want protection.
jordan holmes
That's such a great thing that they take credit...
It boggles my mind how they cannot make even the slightest connection between Obama taking over when it's super low and then Trump taking over when it's super high.
They don't get that in the meantime, something may have happened.
dan friesen
Well, that is what we can talk about in terms of the stock market rise and that sort of thing.
This, I think, is directly related to Trump.
jordan holmes
I think that small jump is directly related to Trump, but where do you think it was in 2008?
dan friesen
Well, I actually have the entire graph here in front of me that dates back to 2000.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And the claim that it's the highest it's ever been since 1984, patently false.
jordan holmes
Not true.
dan friesen
Right when Obama took over, it was as high or higher.
It was almost at 110.
It's like 107-ish, around there.
So in 2004, the optimism was even higher.
Now there's a little bit of a dip, and it gets down in like 2008, 2009, when the market was falling apart.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
It's way down.
I'm looking at it right around like 81. Right.
And then there was gradual increase.
jordan holmes
It keeps going up.
dan friesen
There's progress.
It's never down to that low again.
There's natural ebbs and flows.
jordan holmes
Right, of course.
dan friesen
There's ups and downs.
And then, like, I have to cop to it.
It does jump dramatically right around the election.
jordan holmes
I agree.
But so did the stock market.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And now it's starting to go down again.
dan friesen
But it doesn't mean anything concrete.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
All it means is, well, these people...
jordan holmes
It's a projection of the concept of hope.
And that's where it is kind of a silly thing, because all that's saying is, these people hope things go well.
And they think it's going to.
dan friesen
Well, sure.
And then look at this.
jordan holmes
But it's not.
dan friesen
But if you look at the components of the Small Business Optimism Index, like if you look at the individual pieces, here's where we are for February 2017.
Businesses that plan to increase employment is at 15%, which is down 3% from last time they took the measurement in January.
So it's already going down.
Right.
Plans to increase inventory is at 3%.
So businesses actually concretely growing is only at 3%.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which is up 1% from January, but, you know, whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I don't know necessarily if this is going to make sense to go down.
dan friesen
Expect sales to be higher, down 3%.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Now is a good time to expand.
Businesses that believe that, down 3%.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So a lot of these indicators of, like, Actual optimism are going downward.
jordan holmes
Well, fucking everybody is going down.
dan friesen
There's an artificial optimism that comes from a president who says things you think you can believe in.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And we're learning so fast.
So fast.
He's lied about everything.
Wait, we're not learning that.
The people who voted for him are learning that.
dan friesen
Small business owners who now have to wrestle.
Pardon the pun.
With the fact that Linda McMahon is in charge of the Small Business Association.
jordan holmes
I forgot about that.
Don't make me remember that he put literally every horrible person I can imagine into whatever position he could.
dan friesen
Speaking of which, I hope WrestleMania was great this weekend.
unidentified
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Best wishes to all of you.
alex jones
It's not some goody two-shoes thing.
He's like some Protestant Bible thumper beating you over the head.
He's like, let's be rich.
Let's be powerful.
And then we see it happening.
Only 70 days into office, and all these assholes are saying, kill him.
And I'm just like, man, you can't keep shooting your mouth off about violence with people that wrote the book on it.
So just can you speak about that continuum?
Because last time you were on last week, I brought up.
Some of the things we've talked about and just that people knew when they ran for office that they won, what would happen?
And jokes were made, you know, about putting the army around the White House.
But, you know, that's basically where we're at, Roger.
So they know our phones are tapped.
They know why they're so scared of Trump.
What does Trump need to do to say stop calling for violent overthrow?
Because, again, it's criminal not to stop major media organizing the criminal overthrow of the executive branch in a civil war.
dan friesen
That's not happening.
jordan holmes
That's not happening.
dan friesen
But also, what Trump...
jordan holmes
Does he think it's happening?
dan friesen
What Trump would need to do is start by being honest and then resign.
jordan holmes
Can't imagine.
dan friesen
Those would be the things he needs to do.
jordan holmes
Those are not possible things.
dan friesen
Those would be the things that he needs to do to get people who are against him to stop.
Because no one's going to stop.
jordan holmes
He can't conceive of that.
dan friesen
No.
But also, for the last minute or so of this clip, maybe a minute and a half, this is all a question.
This is all him trying to set up a question.
jordan holmes
That's right.
I forgot about that.
alex jones
I don't want a war.
I'm only having to start saying, man, my gloves are coming off, bro, because these people I don't cuss on the air in the last few years.
I do it all the time now because the gloves are coming off.
I want people to recognize it's counting down here, man.
You can't punch me and my family in the nose and call for the death of my president without the knives coming out, assholes.
I don't want to run these things into you.
But if you come at me with a knife, I'm going to destroy you.
You look at the globalists, they're like two-foot-tall retards starting fights with Mike Tyson in his prime.
So just your comments on that, Roger, let's just put it all out there because they say you're sensational.
No, you're not.
You hold it all back.
Let them know.
Or just do we let them start the war?
Because I don't want this.
jordan holmes
Do we let them start the war?
dan friesen
Because I don't want this.
jordan holmes
He doesn't want this.
dan friesen
You know what?
I've started to come around on a new theory about Alex.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And I texted you about this and told you I couldn't explain it except in person.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I think Alex desperately wants Trump to get impeached or assassinated.
jordan holmes
That's his only hope, really.
dan friesen
That's the only out.
Because I think he...
You know how we've talked about how he didn't want Trump to win?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I'm going back on that.
I think he did want him to win, but since he's won, he's started to realize that it is way too difficult to carry this water.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's starting to realize that all of his narratives are busted.
Every single statistic he quotes is wrong.
All of the news stories that he cites don't say what he thinks it says.
It's becoming impossible for him to defend people like Flynn, who he has defended in the past.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's impossible for him to defend Nunez at this point.
That Dennis Montgomery bullshit he was pulling that we went over on the last episode is insane.
jordan holmes
That was bananas.
dan friesen
I think he's getting to the point where he's frustrated and like, can't this end already so I can twist the narrative?
jordan holmes
Way back when, we talked about this.
He doesn't know how to win.
dan friesen
It's not that, though, I don't think.
I don't think the winning is the problem.
I think it's the being attached to this thing, this tumor on the side of him.
Is so counter to what he says it is.
He's like, there's a tumor growing out of his side.
He's like, oh no, that's body modification.
I got that.
I wanted that there.
It's great.
All the cool kids do.
Statistically, everybody has these big bulges.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I had that implanted.
It's super cool.
Watch what I can do with it.
I can open a beer.
I can do that.
dan friesen
Fetty Wap has a song about it.
Is that already a dated reference?
jordan holmes
Now I want him to...
Just say the words Fetty Wap on air one time.
dan friesen
Could Fetty Wap please make a video where he fake shoots Trump?
Then we could get...
jordan holmes
Then we can get so much Fetty Wap talk?
dan friesen
Yeah, oh my god.
I can't imagine how he'd mispronounce it racially.
jordan holmes
Also, is it too late to change the name of this podcast to Fetty Wap talk?
dan friesen
I think it is.
jordan holmes
You think it's too late?
dan friesen
I think it probably is.
jordan holmes
Ah, bummer.
dan friesen
But, so...
That's my theory, is that he desperately...
Because he's the only one who's talking about Trump being assassinated.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no one else is talking about that.
dan friesen
Except maybe some really, really far out people that no one supports.
jordan holmes
See, but even those people, I think, see the writing on the wall and they're like, oh, well, we don't need to talk about that.
He's going to fall apart.
dan friesen
And anyone who has any awareness of the world knows that, like...
Really, at this point, with this type of a person, assassinating them would only hurt your cause.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That'd be a terrible idea.
dan friesen
If you're against a person like this, like a demagogue, if you kill them, then it only strengthens them.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, the best way is for Trump to go down a nominee and just fucking disappear.
dan friesen
Which is probably pretty likely.
And disappear, you mean prison.
jordan holmes
I want him to go to prison so bad.
Either that...
Or I want all of his money taken away from him, and he becomes a pauper, and we bring back the stocks, and we all get to throw one tomato at him.
dan friesen
That would be fun.
jordan holmes
One tomato.
Just like my prescription for Richard Spencer and all Nazis, you get one punch.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You get one punch.
That's our compromise there.
dan friesen
It would be great if the punishment for treason, instead of killing them, because I think that that is traditionally the punishment for treason.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think...
I think Schiff gets to face fuck him.
Isn't that true?
dan friesen
Well, he is a cocksucker.
He's an archetypical cocksucker.
I think the punishment for treason just line up every citizen, every illegal immigrant.
And they all get to just punch you in the gut.
jordan holmes
See, now that's not a good idea.
That's a trap.
You just laid a trap for illegal immigrants.
What?
unidentified
What did you do?
dan friesen
They get to punch you in the stomach, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but now we know where they are.
What's wrong with you?
dan friesen
Well, it turns out the legal ones are getting arrested when they're...
they go to immigration hearings.
jordan holmes
Who would have guessed that that horrible thing could have backfired into an even more horrible thing?
Yeah, like any of them fucking care.
dan friesen
So here's the last clip with Roger Stone before we get into Uncharted Waters with Alex Jones.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
There be monsters.
dan friesen
Roger Stone on Friday was on Bill Maher.
He was on Real Time with Bill Maher.
jordan holmes
What the fuck is wrong with Bill Maher?
dan friesen
A lot.
jordan holmes
He's a fucking idiot.
dan friesen
Yeah, Jesus Christ.
jordan holmes
And a monster, and I hate him so much.
dan friesen
He's a fucking insane Islamophobe.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
He is the worst.
jordan holmes
Well, the most recent clip was him and three other white dudes saying that...
dan friesen
Well, like, Chris Hayes was on trying to do a good job.
Yeah.
And he just...
If you watch that clip, he just has his head down through most of it.
Like, I can't...
Why did I come?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And, like, Louise Mench is on and...
jordan holmes
Oh, she's fucking a lunatic, too.
unidentified
Largely.
jordan holmes
She is a fucking conspiracy theorist lunatic.
dan friesen
Not in the same vein as a lot of people like the Alex Jones conspiracy theorists.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
dan friesen
I know.
I don't think it's fair to paint her with the same brush.
jordan holmes
But I will say that if you want any kind of journalistic integrity, you definitely don't go to Louise Mensch.
dan friesen
That's fair.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
dan friesen
I don't want to unpack all that.
I'm not here to go to bat for her.
jordan holmes
That's a long conversation, too.
dan friesen
Yeah, and this isn't the Louise Mensch podcast.
This is the Alex Jones show.
jordan holmes
There are Alex Jones listeners who do the same podcast we do, except it's about Louise Mensch.
dan friesen
I would hope so.
unidentified
That would be fun.
dan friesen
But there's that Kansas governor or senator who was on who was the one who was talking about how Muslims are terrible.
unidentified
Brownback?
dan friesen
No, it wasn't Brownback.
It was Matt something.
I don't know.
Anyway, that was last week.
This week, Roger Stone was on, and that's why he's got to go to bed bed and leave Alex at this point.
And this is where Alex kind of...
jordan holmes
Cocks out Roger Stone, too?
dan friesen
No, Bill Maher, but then also...
You'll see.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Well, hats off to Bill Maher.
unidentified
He's got bigger balls than, say, Mark Warner.
alex jones
I don't know.
I like Bill Maher.
He's faster than I hate him on many.
Not that we need the plug for Bill Maher, but they tape it live.
He hates InfoWars.
So if you don't even have InfoWars plugged, there's nothing we need to travel, you know, the visitors.
We don't even get that many of you said it, but just to piss him off, if you said, it's an InfoWars...
Not even Infowars.com.
We're winning.
I want to see if that gets in there.
So promise me you'll do that, alright?
unidentified
You got it.
You have my promise.
alex jones
Alright, folks.
There goes Roger Stone.
I don't know.
dan friesen
I didn't watch it.
But I do know that, you know, that's Alex Jones pathetically being like, please mention our show.
jordan holmes
Please mention me.
unidentified
It's not that we need the listeners to mention, but please, please.
dan friesen
We're doing great.
jordan holmes
Please.
dan friesen
So, at this point, Roger Stone goes to bed bed, because he's a 70-year-old man, and Alex should have stopped.
jordan holmes
Oh, thank God he didn't.
dan friesen
Because as drunk as he sounds and how stupid he's been up till this point, without Roger Stone to ground him, he is losing it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The rest of this episode, these clips are riddles.
jordan holmes
They're riddles?
dan friesen
Somewhat.
It's hard to figure out what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
So this is what...
jordan holmes
Even more so than regular.
dan friesen
Yes.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
So this clip is right after Roger Stone leaves.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Immediately.
The moment that Roger Stone is gone.
dan friesen
I think he says something like, well, Roger Stone's great.
Or something like that.
I might have cut out that, but nothing contextual, nothing...
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
Nothing that would make this make sense.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So here we go.
alex jones
To me, money is literally like a video game, and I'm fighting the big boss at the end of the game.
I just need more money to beat them.
Money, literally.
I mean, after you've got a good car, like me, I mean, why do I have a Dodge Hellcat?
I've never bought in my life a $63,000 vehicle.
Let's go to full screen.
I want to talk to people about money.
I used to drive like $25,000 Ford trucks.
They're awesome.
That's all I needed.
But then I was like, Ferrari makes this now, and it's 700-something horsepower, and it's America?
jordan holmes
That's not what Ferrari is.
alex jones
And the local Dodge thing?
He's only getting two of them, and he's calling me over?
dan friesen
Also, these pauses, he's burping.
Okay.
jordan holmes
What do we think he's drinking?
dan friesen
I think it's whiskey.
jordan holmes
He loves whiskey.
You think it's pure?
Like, what's his whiskey brand?
dan friesen
I believe it's Jameson.
jordan holmes
You think so?
I don't want to share that with him.
I don't like that my brand of whiskey is his brand of whiskey.
dan friesen
I think it might just be because everyone I know drinks Jameson.
jordan holmes
See, I feel like it's like a wild turkey.
I think that's what we're seeing here.
dan friesen
I could see that, or like a Jack.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
No, Jack is Tennessee sour mash.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He wouldn't be down with that.
jordan holmes
Well, he definitely doesn't drink scotch.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
We know that.
dan friesen
I don't remember.
I know that Joe Rogan mentioned what it was when he was on The Rogan Experience.
And also, Rogan and...
jordan holmes
Joe Rogan called it apple juice, I believe.
dan friesen
No, that was Alex.
jordan holmes
Oh, that was Alex.
dan friesen
But Joe Rogan and Eddie Bravo have talked about how he was drinking before the episode started.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
So this gives a picture of, like, what a...
Like, Alex isn't out in the house.
jordan holmes
And that was even when Alex wasn't losing all of his money.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Yep.
So, you might think...
That he's done.
Talking about cars?
He's not.
alex jones
And I went and test drove it, and I said, I want this Dodge Hellcat Challenger.
Because you couldn't get a car for $300,000.
You've got to get a half-million-dollar Ferrari that's as fast.
But it wasn't that I even wanted the fast car.
unidentified
Yes, it is.
alex jones
I had a Ford truck.
I still have it that's so fast.
450 horsepower is faster than I need.
It was that it was so Americana and so anti-Al Gore, but also because it was black and just looked like a regular Challenger that it fit into my cosmology, that it doesn't look like a race car, but it is.
jordan holmes
Who are you trying to convince here, Alex Jones?
Is it you or me?
unidentified
Also, what point are you trying to convince?
jordan holmes
Well, it's Americana, as everybody knows.
dan friesen
Dodge Challengers.
jordan holmes
All Americans dream of buying a Dodge Challenger.
dan friesen
Sure, it's in the Constitution.
jordan holmes
Is that in the Constitution?
dan friesen
I think it is.
I haven't read it in a while, but yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, which amendment was that?
unidentified
17th.
jordan holmes
That was the 17th Amendment?
Oh, I hope it wasn't.
dan friesen
But I do like there he's saying that it's this black car and it doesn't look like it's a race car, but it is, and that fits into his cosmology of things not appearing to be what they are.
jordan holmes
His cosmology.
dan friesen
Right.
That's the wrong word.
jordan holmes
That's definitely the wrong word.
dan friesen
What I think he means is his life's philosophy.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's this idea that...
jordan holmes
Not what Mars in ascendancy has planned for him.
dan friesen
No, but I think what he's trying to say is that his life is...
Predicated on the belief that things aren't what they appear to be.
jordan holmes
Okay.
That's actually, if he was trying to say that, that would be an interesting thing to say.
dan friesen
I might be doing excessive exegesis.
jordan holmes
You are giving him more credit than he has ever deserved.
dan friesen
But we have to, otherwise there's no show.
Because otherwise...
jordan holmes
Otherwise we're just talking about the crazy man on the train yelling about stuff.
unidentified
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Otherwise we're like, look at this drunk idiot.
I have to at least try and parse out, like, what does he mean by that?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And I think that's what it is, and I would agree with him that his life is about that, but not in the way he thinks.
He thinks that he's saying that I see the hidden reality behind things, or the truth is, like, you are not what you appear to be.
You appear to be a conservative talk show host, and you're an out-and-out craven propagandist.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
So, I kind of get it.
If that's what he's saying.
jordan holmes
I mean, if that's what he's saying, fine.
dan friesen
Again, it might be the twin coming out the ear.
jordan holmes
That's what I'm thinking.
That's what I'm thinking.
dan friesen
There does appear to be a part of him that is desperately wanting to come clean.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
So how far does he go down before he actually does come clean?
Do you think he would do it?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
If he finally got fully taken down and he sits there going...
We're shuttering the door.
And I refuse to rhyme that with whatever the name of his show or website may be.
dan friesen
I think that you'd have to have excessive lawsuits that he knows he's dead to rights on.
Or something like that.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
Because it would take more than Glenn Beck.
Like, Glenn Beck flipped like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's flipped and flipped back.
He's the worst.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, I mean, he's a survivor.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Glenn Beck is a cockroach.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Glenn Beck is going to make it through this.
Alex Jones is not going to make it through this.
dan friesen
He's going to flame out.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
And this erratic drunkenness is not going to help.
unidentified
I...
jordan holmes
No.
I was scrambling for some positive way I could say this.
dan friesen
But to your question, I think that he's...
At this point, if I know Alex like I think I do, I think he is in a battle between not being able to carry the load anymore and how guilty he feels about selling out the last 20 years of his quote-unquote principles and waiting for Trump to go down.
And that whole situation with him.
And I think that...
I think that the last episode we did with the Dennis Montgomery stuff was one attempt to try and flip the narrative and be like, okay, we can go down this path.
Everything will be fine.
You can't do that.
There's no legs there.
So now he's going like, all right, fuck.
I'm going to be a crusader against pedophilia.
And maybe that'll take the attention off the Trump shit for a bit.
I think that's him buying time so he doesn't have to face the music.
I might be putting, again, I might be giving too much credit.
jordan holmes
So, well, to me it seems like he does have good people talking to him at InfoWars.
Because of that earlier clip where he's like, people have told me to let this go and it'll probably work out.
I swear there is somebody at InfoWars who, just a low-level employee who's like, dude, we can still make it through this.
unidentified
Chill.
jordan holmes
Just don't do...
You.
For a little while.
And then whenever Trump's gone, we'll get right back to not being in the big spotlight.
We'll get right back into...
dan friesen
I'm 100% guessing it's Roger Stone and Jerome Corsi.
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
Well, I would assume that those are the only two people he fully respects.
Like, Rob Dew can't say that to him.
jordan holmes
Rob Du can't say shit.
dan friesen
Rob Du does show up later at the end of this episode.
jordan holmes
Just wandering in like a homeless man?
dan friesen
He's probably the only other person in the studio.
jordan holmes
Just with his bindle on his head?
dan friesen
He might as well, but he shows up and he gets on mic.
He's sitting at the desk with Alex.
Alex won't even look at him.
Alex is talking and facing the other direction.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, that's so beautiful.
dan friesen
I can't imagine Paul Joseph Watson...
Has any sagely advice to give him?
jordan holmes
No, PJ Dubs.
Have we heard anything from Leanne McAdoo in a while?
Has she not even been on?
dan friesen
She has.
Just, I don't give a shit.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
I'm just worried that whenever you don't mention these other people, I'm like...
dan friesen
They're still around.
jordan holmes
How much money is he losing that he can't even afford these people?
When do we just stop seeing them and he never mentions it because he can't pay them?
dan friesen
Well, even like Pizzagate Joe Biggs is back a little bit.
unidentified
Oh, really?
dan friesen
He's back doing some reports.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he's not getting paid.
dan friesen
At Rambo Biggs on Twitter.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's getting paid in exposure.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Quote, unquote.
dan friesen
He's doing propaganda on spec.
So here we go.
We've got to get through the rest of this clip about Alex's cars.
jordan holmes
Is that what we're talking about?
dan friesen
We're still there.
alex jones
And the reason I raise that is once you've got a car to carry your kids to school and another car to drive to work in and a house, I'm like wanting to downsize from my four-bedroom, but I've got a bunch of children.
I got four children.
Never talked about it on air, but there's four now.
And because there's so many threats against little sweethearts.
But I'm like, you're just going to have to be in the same room together because I don't like living in rich people neighborhoods.
And it's not that I'm even against the upper middle class neighborhood I live in.
It just doesn't feel good.
I'm trying to find some big compound in some blue collar area.
jordan holmes
A big compound in a blue-collar area.
alex jones
And I'm not...
It's not like I'm some fake leftist that lives in a rich area and then says that I'm against rich.
I want you to be wealthy, to be independent, but it's not my God.
Like, I think I'm going to sell my car just because I've had it two years.
I don't need something really fast.
I never drive it fast.
I just need to be more humble and just go back to my Ford F-150.
dan friesen
Might need to sell my car for money.
jordan holmes
Need money.
dan friesen
Also, why is this on air?
jordan holmes
I have no idea what's going on right now.
He's rambling about his kids?
dan friesen
The reason I screamed at you to hold on was because he was getting to that point where he's like, I got four kids.
I haven't really said that on air.
He's had another kid.
jordan holmes
He's had another kid?
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know when he had it, but he, like, recently...
It's 45. As recently as a few months ago, he said three.
He said three.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he's had another kid pretty recently.
jordan holmes
All right.
Posit this question.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Illegitimate kid.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
It has to be, right?
dan friesen
Well, I think he just recently had a divorce, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know if that's true, though.
jordan holmes
Whose kid is this?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Can we find this information?
dan friesen
Again, this is irrelevant to us.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
This is not what we...
jordan holmes
We're not a gossip show.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
But we do want to occasionally find out more about Alex Jones' personal life.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
But his kids are off limits.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But I do think that it's...
jordan holmes
Even if one is 26 and he just met it.
unidentified
It.
jordan holmes
Met it.
dan friesen
I think that's the gender mutual pronoun.
jordan holmes
That's how I think of children.
unidentified
Them.
jordan holmes
It's.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
But the idea that he doesn't talk about his kids on the air because there's so many threats against the little sweethearts, that's weird.
jordan holmes
See, that's...
dan friesen
That falls right in line with his paranoia.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a gentle soul underneath that, though.
A broken...
dan friesen
Gentle is not the word I would use.
jordan holmes
Hurting.
Paranoia.
dan friesen
Drunk.
Anyway, here we go.
The next clip.
alex jones
The point is, I'm not doing what I do for money.
I would chop my right arm off right now with a guillotine.
jordan holmes
Do it.
alex jones
To defeat the globalist.
Doesn't mean some utopia is coming.
It doesn't mean that...
You know, I've got all the answers.
It's just, I'm not out to get people.
unidentified
And...
dan friesen
I didn't put in pauses.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
This is how he's talking.
jordan holmes
This is him just searching for any thread.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Any thread.
dan friesen
So here's the thread he does find.
alex jones
Again, when you've got the third biggest radio show in the country, the normal talk show host would make $10 million a year or more.
I'm, gross-wise, probably the second highest paid talk show host in the country now.
Not the third most listened to.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
alex jones
That's listened by talkers and others.
jordan holmes
No possible way is he.
dan friesen
I pulled up Forbes' list of the top radio hosts of 2016.
jordan holmes
They have a list of that?
dan friesen
Yeah, the highest paid radio hosts of 2016.
Number six, Glenn Beck made $16 million last year.
jordan holmes
Whoa.
dan friesen
Bill O 'Reilly comes in at number five, $18.5 million.
jordan holmes
Just on his radio show?
dan friesen
Apparently, yeah.
jordan holmes
Fuck.
dan friesen
I mean, a heavy syndication for that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
dan friesen
Number four, Sean Hannity.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, Hannity's radio show is probably the...
dan friesen
29 million at number four.
Yeah.
Number three, plot twist, Ryan Seacrest, because he has that morning show.
jordan holmes
Oh, that makes sense.
dan friesen
$55 million.
jordan holmes
Everybody inexplicably likes or tolerates Ryan Seacrest.
dan friesen
He's charming as hell.
jordan holmes
He's charming in a robot way.
dan friesen
Eh, it's fine, but that's what people like there.
That's why they listen to, like, Delilah and shit.
unidentified
Ah.
dan friesen
Number two.
Rush Limbaugh with $79 million.
And number one, Howard Stern with $85 million.
Howard Stern's not on the list, even, of the top six.
jordan holmes
I constantly forget that Howard Stern is still around.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
It's easy to forget because we're adults.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
dan friesen
We've moved on.
jordan holmes
$85 million?
dan friesen
Yeah, so that's the top six paid.
jordan holmes
Where is Alex Jones at?
dan friesen
He's not even in the conversation.
He's not even on the list at all that I can find.
Like we've talked about, I can't get a Freedom of Information Act going for his finances.
I can't find that.
I don't know.
But I can find a list of listenership.
The top listenerships of radio shows.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
Number one in the country is Morning Edition on NPR as a listener base of 14.7 million listeners a week.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Number two, All Things Considered, also on NPR, 14.4 million listeners.
Number three, Rush Limbaugh.
13.25 million listeners every week.
jordan holmes
That's so sad.
dan friesen
Sean Hannity comes in at number four with 12.5 million.
jordan holmes
That's also sad.
dan friesen
Delilah, the aforementioned Delilah, comes in after that with her request line show, pulling in an average of 8.8 million listeners a week.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I'm neutral.
A little bit down here.
1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11th on the list, The Savage Nation, Michael Savage's show.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
5.25 million listeners a week.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
Which is good, but it's still substantially below Alex's fake statistics.
jordan holmes
Not for humanity.
dan friesen
No.
Coast to Coast AM, a little bit further down the list.
I love Coast to Coast.
I love it.
Love hearing alien talk.
jordan holmes
Alright, alright.
dan friesen
Well, I did love it until I realized that George Nori is like an Obama birther.
And anti-vax guy.
jordan holmes
I have never listened to Coast to Coast.
I do not know what you're talking about.
dan friesen
Goddammit, it's so good.
It's overnights, and George Norrie, well, it used to be Art Bell, but then he fled to the Philippines.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
He just wanted to get off the grid.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
So he moved to an island.
jordan holmes
That's smart.
dan friesen
He wasn't being chased or anything like that.
jordan holmes
If I were Alex Jones right now, that is exactly what I'd do.
I would get the fuck out.
dan friesen
So George Norrie took over.
jordan holmes
Wherever extradition laws are the hardest.
dan friesen
Yeah.
George Norrie took over, and he's this smooth-as-shit guy.
He used to do, like, evening radio in St. Louis.
He's just awesome.
And he talks about, like, ghosts and aliens and ancient civilizations and stuff like that.
They just do overnights.
And what makes the show so special is most of the time is open lines.
So he ends up just taking calls from people who have ghosts in their house and shit like that.
It's awesome.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, I realized...
jordan holmes
I'm going to take your word for it.
dan friesen
As conservative, as crazy conservative as a lot of these people like the Michael Savages, but he just hides it with alien talk.
jordan holmes
How do you combine that with aliens and ghosts?
dan friesen
He generally doesn't.
jordan holmes
No, I know, but how is it that you feel that way while at the same time...
Look, I believe in small government.
I'm a Christian.
unidentified
I really believe that the Bible is a good thing.
jordan holmes
Also, aliens and ghosts are coming around all over the place!
dan friesen
He did an interesting interview with Duncan Trussell where he talks about some of that stuff.
jordan holmes
Every interview with Duncan Trussell is...
He is interesting while at the same time being weirdly tedious.
dan friesen
And a little frustrating.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
But I do love the guy.
So if you wanted more insight into sort of his position, that interview with Trussell is really good.
But that's Coast to Coast AM.
They have 2.75 million listeners a week.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
On this entire list that goes down like the top 20 listened to radio shows in the country.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones is not among them.
dan friesen
Not at all.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The last one on the list, 2.5 million, the Kim Commando show.
That gives you some context.
Have you ever heard of the Kim Commando show?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Conceivably what this means, because these numbers are based on Nielsen, they're based on professional aggregates, Alex is on terrestrial radio.
He would be covered by those statistics.
jordan holmes
He would have to be.
dan friesen
And the fact that they do include the Glenn Beck program, they include Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, again, Coast to Coast AM.
jordan holmes
But every radio station has to pay to syndicate those shows.
dan friesen
Not always.
We don't know what their affiliate rules are.
We have no idea.
jordan holmes
However, we do know...
You do not have to pay for the Alex Jones show.
dan friesen
Nope, we found his contract.
jordan holmes
His very public contract.
dan friesen
The point that I'm making is that you have NPR on the same list as Michael Savage.
There's clearly no bias in this list.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This list is statistical.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And the fact that Alex Jones is not on there means that his actual radio audience is less than 2.5 million people a week.
jordan holmes
It has to be.
dan friesen
Now, he does have a number of people who watch his videos on YouTube.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There are people who listen directly through the website.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But it can't possibly...
jordan holmes
No way.
dan friesen
...end up being...
jordan holmes
Question.
Do you think he's gained listeners since he's become a...
What?
Like a...
What would you call him now?
Like a boogeyman?
Like somebody that...
dan friesen
He's always been a boogeyman.
jordan holmes
No, he's always been a boogeyman, but one that is much more in the spotlight.
Like, I've seen...
On the internet, just the whole internet?
dan friesen
No, I think people like watching the memes.
I don't think anyone's listening to his actual show.
jordan holmes
No, that's what I'm saying.
But do you think that he's gained listeners as a response to that?
Because now with the way the world works...
unidentified
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Like that fucking guy who fucking murdered Trayvon will not say his name.
I hope he gets hit by a truck.
But whenever that happened, he got millions for his defense fund just because conservators are like, no, it's fine to kill black people.
dan friesen
They're fucking monsters.
I think it's possible that as a backlash to this making fun of him, people who would be inclined to agree with Alex have rallied around a little bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
But, statistically speaking, based on these numbers that we have from the Nielsen ratings...
jordan holmes
Not in effect.
dan friesen
Well, it can't possibly be this.
alex jones
And I'll be honest with you.
We know we reach 45 million people a week on a bad week now.
The fact that we bring in the amount of money we bring in, and my crew is impressed with that, it's nothing.
Hell, the Super Bowl has 80 million viewers and brings in $500 million or whatever.
We have that amount of viewers a week, a month guaranteed, and it's a fraction.
And it's not about the money, but it shows how we're as big as they are bigger.
jordan holmes
It's about the money when you don't have any.
alex jones
But we don't have the big corporations and the elite who know they're advertising in a failure, who know they're putting money in that doesn't bring back 10% of what they invest, but they're tithing to prop up their lie.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
Nope!
dan friesen
Also, the idea that 45 million people are watching a week is...
jordan holmes
45 million people don't do anything together.
It's ludicrous.
There are zero things that 45 million people all do at the same time.
dan friesen
It's absolutely ludicrous.
jordan holmes
That number is unbelievable.
Like, the Super Bowl is getting down close to 45 million now.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, I mean, the numbers are down for that, sure.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, 45 million people do not agree on anything anymore.
dan friesen
For context...
That would be Rush Limbaugh's audience times three.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's impossible.
It's just absolutely impossible.
There's no way.
There's no way.
unidentified
I mean, maybe worldwide?
jordan holmes
Nope, that's not possible either.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
So we now go to...
alex jones
I was offered a million dollars a year.
Three million dollars.
Ten million dollars.
jordan holmes
$12 million.
alex jones
Back when I was only on like 20-something radio stations in the late nights.
jordan holmes
$1,000 million.
A billion million dollars.
alex jones
And so I always hear how, oh, I'm a sellout because some person that actually isn't involved just can feel like a big man by saying, oh, Alex Jones, he's a sellout.
He works for the system or this made-up crap or whatever.
We lease a satellite from Clear Channel or AT&T.
We work for them because we lease a satellite.
That's probably a Samsung TV right there.
What company is that?
I don't know what I'm missing.
We work for Samsung.
It is a Samsung.
And it isn't about me.
It's just that I'm just an average guy.
If I can be true and have these effects, you can as well.
And it's the crew and the listeners that make all this possible.
jordan holmes
I'm just an average guy with a $300,000 car!
Just like every average guy.
$300,000 car!
dan friesen
Joe the Plumber!
jordan holmes
Oh, man, I'm so average.
This Dodge Hellcat Charger pays for itself!
You know, like you, the average InfoWars listener.
dan friesen
I might sell it.
jordan holmes
Now that is something that the average InfoWars listener can relate to.
dan friesen
I want to apologize.
We jumped right into that clip because...
Whatever the operating system in Gmail that plays audio attachments...
jordan holmes
Has changed overnight, apparently.
dan friesen
And I can no longer load up clips and have them at the ready to press play.
I just have to launch them.
So, sorry, I'm still getting used to not being able to give the setup.
jordan holmes
Oh, somebody is going to tweet at you about how you are so wrong.
dan friesen
I'm a fuck-up.
jordan holmes
Or they're going to teach you how to do it right.
dan friesen
Maybe.
Upgrade your UI!
Alright, fine.
alex jones
Everything I am is truthful.
That's why if I actually want to cuss, which I haven't wanted to do in 20 years, I can't help it.
I'm doing it now on air because I'm so pissed, man.
Things are so clear.
And I don't sit here and say, buy our products so that I can have a bigger house to impress people.
In fact, I want to live in the country.
And just to have a big enough house where a family comes, they got a bed to stay on, not the couch.
dan friesen
You really thought that something was coming there, right?
Other than people?
jordan holmes
I wanted anything.
I wanted anything.
dan friesen
George Soros.
Any specific.
unidentified
I don't buy stuff.
jordan holmes
All right.
Thanks, Alex.
Thanks.
We got it.
We got it, buddy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
And a pool swimming is like a pool.
You know, a pool, a car.
That's...
And I can fly somewhere and I can take care of medicine.
I just want money to live just like you do.
And the globalists know that.
They want to keep you at a level where you don't get the money you need to live so that you have to capitulate to them to even operate.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's exactly what he thinks is happening.
He thinks they're taking away his money, so he has to change his opinion.
dan friesen
Right, and they're taking away his deep-earth crystals.
jordan holmes
I hate it when somebody takes away my deep-earth crystals.
dan friesen
That's what the globalists want.
jordan holmes
They want all the deep-earth crystals.
dan friesen
And the stupid thing is, don't talk about how you don't want money in your sales pitch.
It's too obvious.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
It's very much me thinks he doth is a dick.
Yeah, he doth a dick.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, whenever I have asked for donations to the Patreon or whatever, I always walk it back a little bit.
jordan holmes
Because you don't want money.
dan friesen
I don't care if someone gives me money.
I would like it.
jordan holmes
Oh, you just don't even...
It's not about the money for you.
It's not about buying your third home.
You know.
From the money you give from your Patreon.
dan friesen
You mean my shitty apartment in Chicago?
Yes.
My third shitty apartment?
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
The lovely room.
dan friesen
This place isn't that shitty.
But be that as it may, I mean, it's stupid of me to even compare myself to him in terms of the public.
When I ask for donations, it's like, give or don't give!
And I mean it.
jordan holmes
Well, we have 46 million listeners, though.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
We have 1 million more listeners than Alex Jones does.
And I can prove it.
I think that's why he hates us so much.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
Bring up that Forbes list of highest paid podcasts.
Have you considered whether or not we have been...
You know, because George Soros offered us...
dan friesen
Number three, Scott Aukerman.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, that sounds about right.
dan friesen
Number two...
jordan holmes
Did you literally have that list right in front of you?
dan friesen
Number two is...
unidentified
Mark Barron.
jordan holmes
Yeah?
dan friesen
Number one, Knowledge Fight.
unidentified
No, I was making up that list.
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Jesus Christ.
You started playing with your computer the same way you did with the radio host list.
You fucking sold me on it.
dan friesen
I'm good at space work.
jordan holmes
You're good.
You're a liar.
You're a liar.
dan friesen
So now Alex Jones doesn't, like I'm saying, he doesn't want money.
But now in this next clip, he's going to explain what he does want.
jordan holmes
Love.
The love of his father.
We all know that it's the love of his father.
dan friesen
Too busy hugging those teeth.
So, in this clip, he is also, because he's so drunk, he's going to end up getting sidetracked.
He's going to misuse scripture, again.
jordan holmes
Our favorite.
Our favorite little corner on this podcast.
dan friesen
Also, he's going to blaspheme.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
I love it when he backs to back.
alex jones
But in this new paradigm, they're saying they want to censor us.
They're shutting us down.
Every week, the last few months, they're just chopping in.
And my lust, and I don't mean that in a bad way, but my drive, my ambition, is to reach new people.
jordan holmes
I need you.
alex jones
And to pay our crew that work hard more.
And to hire a new crew and to expand.
And so I used to see the preachers, a lot of them corrupt and bad when I was growing up in Dallas.
My parents had dragged me to church.
God, I hated it.
jordan holmes
All right, good.
alex jones
Saying, like, the widow's mite.
You know, she had nothing.
She had some oil and whatever, but her and her daughter were going to starve to death, but she gave a little bit of money, and then God gave them all this big bounty because they did it.
jordan holmes
Not that scripture.
unidentified
Not it at all.
alex jones
I don't want the widow's mite.
jordan holmes
God didn't give them shit.
Jesus just was like, cool, man.
alex jones
I want...
The people that are sitting out there that are middle class or wealthy and who think they got where they are with those stocks and bonds giving nothing to nobody.
Or maybe they gave something to some dumbass church that pushes a bunch of globalism.
jordan holmes
What is he fucking talking about?
dan friesen
He hates the church.
jordan holmes
He hates the church.
dan friesen
Which is the bride of Christ.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
But also, I want to say...
That what he just said there, you middle class and rich people who have all these stocks and haven't given shit to anybody, you think that makes you wealthy.
He is saying an analog of Obama's you didn't build your business.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
You're right.
That did not occur to me.
dan friesen
The spirit of what he's saying and he's so mad about is the exact same spirit as this thing.
That a black president said and he got furious about.
He is the worst.
jordan holmes
He is the worst?
dan friesen
He literally doesn't know the words that are coming out of his mouth.
jordan holmes
Can we just one time get something like that and then...
Have him look in a mirror.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
And just see himself for the first time.
dan friesen
He's too drunk to focus when he looks in the mirror.
Anyway, also...
jordan holmes
I'm looking at two Alex Joneses.
unidentified
This is my dream.
dan friesen
This is so great.
There's two of me.
jordan holmes
I want to have sex with both of you.
dan friesen
I'm going to take another shot.
Maybe it'll be three.
So, but you also...
jordan holmes
I can get three times as much done right now.
dan friesen
You picked up on the fact that he was...
jordan holmes
That Bible verse...
Or that little parable that he tried to paraphrase was...
dan friesen
Bananas.
He seems to think it was a lottery that Jesus was running.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You got nothing, but you pitched in a little bit.
Bing, bing, bing, bing, bing, big winner!
That's not what happened.
jordan holmes
One, it's a bummer that we both instantly know that biblical verse right there.
But he could not have gotten it more wrong.
dan friesen
The idea is like riches in heaven.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The idea is she had nothing to give.
But yet she placed such a high priority on the church and the good works.
jordan holmes
Her penny is more valuable than your thousands of dollars.
dan friesen
Right, and it's because of what it means to her.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Alex seems to think that the point of it is...
jordan holmes
But even then, that verse ends with, her reward will be in heaven, because I ain't paying for shit.
dan friesen
And she'll be there soon.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Look...
That lady cannot afford healthcare.
She needs that penny so bad.
But she's giving it to me.
So when she dies, oh man.
Good stuff?
I don't know.
Heaven's cool?
Guys, I'm bad at being Jesus.
dan friesen
Even if it's an 1,000 to 1 return rate, that's still only 10 bucks.
That's not good.
jordan holmes
What's the exchange rate on heaven bucks?
dan friesen
Hopefully it's better than dollar to euro.
jordan holmes
Well, after Brexit, it's a lot less than you might expect.
dan friesen
He says some more bad things about the church, as I recall.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
alex jones
When you buy water filters, you're not drinking glyphosates and all the other chemicals, hundreds of them.
You buy X2.
It changed my life.
I know it's real.
You buy bio-trust selenium.
It's game-changing.
You buy heirloom seeds that are non-GMO pollinated.
You can grow a whole damn forest out of it.
It makes no seeds forever.
Everything I do empowers you.
But you have to buy into life and the regenerative process of creativity to not be part of the satanic system.
And I realized everything I do has to benefit me and everybody involved.
jordan holmes
Huh.
Regenerative process of creativity.
dan friesen
Regenerative.
You mispronounced his...
jordan holmes
I apologize.
What's in parentheses S-I-C.
dan friesen
I guess it's almost become an old hat for us to point out how drunk he is.
jordan holmes
I like it.
I just wish we could see him get more drunk.
dan friesen
I did, because I was watching the video.
unidentified
Does he get more drunk as the two hours go along?
dan friesen
Yes, because he has that cup with him.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And I will say this, at the end of it, he looks deflated.
And the last clip I'm going to play is someone who stayed at a party too long.
It's that kind of a conversation he's having with Rob Dew at the end of that.
So this next clip coming up, I don't want to spoil anything, but I...
I will say that I've done some research into what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he is off base.
But please don't talk over this because he has to tell a story.
jordan holmes
Not going to talk at all.
dan friesen
All right.
alex jones
I was talking to a New York art dealer about a decade ago in New York.
Strangely enough, I was at Trump Tower in a penthouse with one of the heirs of a major restaurant chain.
But I've been out on their big yacht driving around New York that day after 9-11 at a memorial.
And I said, they were talking about art displays where people would pay $50 million for a skull with some rhinestones on it that somebody with leprosy jacked off on, you know, stuff like that.
And I was like, why would you spend $50 million on something so ugly and pathetic?
And the guy looked at me and he goes, you don't get it, Alex, do you?
That's religious.
That $50 million could feed hundreds of thousands of African starving children.
And the fact that they gave it to some weird degenerate artist for a skull with rhinestones, not even real diamonds.
A skull maybe worth $500.
And then they metaphorically...
Gave their seed to death, not to a woman to create life.
It was worshipping death.
It was a death offering, a death cult offering of $54 million, the newspaper, to a semen-covered skull.
And then you understand everything.
And I was like, oh my God.
He goes, oh yeah.
They go and they pay millions a week for art and they go back to their penthouses and they burn it.
He goes, why do they burn it?
I go, because that was money for poor people.
Exactly.
It's as good as killing a kid, killing innocents.
If you can take something and then take $50 million you ripped off from stockholders, and you can buy a skull covered in diseased semen, and you can worship that skull, that is so satanic.
unidentified
Ching.
alex jones
Spreading our links, spreading our articles.
I mean, you can Google Wall Street's addiction to degenerate art.
It was like a Wall Street Journal article, or maybe was it a New Yorker magazine?
But they make a joke about it.
dan friesen
So, that is so awesome.
That story is so awesome.
jordan holmes
A semen-covered skull.
dan friesen
Would you like to know what he's talking about?
jordan holmes
I...
I kind of don't.
I just want to live in a world where a semen-colored skull, a semen-covered skull, a semen-colored skull would be good, too.
dan friesen
To be fair, most skulls are semen-colored.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Give or take.
jordan holmes
Not my semen.
dan friesen
Oh, boy.
So, I did some research.
I can find no evidence that semen plays into this at all.
Especially leprosy semen.
I couldn't even find that on, like, crazy blogs.
Like, I was even looking at World News Daily and, like...
Daily Caller, any salacious...
jordan holmes
What is he fucking talking about?
dan friesen
So, he's talking about this sculpture called For the Love of God.
And it was created by an artist named Damien Hirst in 2007.
jordan holmes
Oh, I've heard of him.
dan friesen
So, what he did was he took a skull...
jordan holmes
I'm very continental.
dan friesen
Yeah, very.
So, he took a skull and he made a cast of it and then made a platinum cast of the skull.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And covered it with 8,601 actual flawless diamonds.
Not Alex Jones' fake diamonds.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
8,601 real diamonds.
jordan holmes
Where did he get those?
dan friesen
They were actually, he did document that they were ethically sourced.
unidentified
Oh!
dan friesen
So they weren't blood diamonds or anything like that.
jordan holmes
Well, they were semen diamonds.
It's a very different type of diamond.
dan friesen
The name of the work, in case you were thinking it is some sort of religious thing, For the Love of God being the name of it, it's based on a quote from his mom.
Damien Hirst's mom would see his art and she would say, For the Love of God, what are you going to do next?
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so it's a reference to his mom's quote.
It has nothing to do necessarily with actual God.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So there are teeth on it that he bought legally.
They're actual human teeth.
And then in the middle...
jordan holmes
From?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones' dad.
dan friesen
Possibly.
And then he also has a giant...
jordan holmes
I assume Alex Jones' dad wears a ring of teeth.
dan friesen
And there's a giant pink diamond on the forehead.
That's sort of the centerpiece of it.
If you want to take a look at it, it's right here.
That's the For Love of God piece.
jordan holmes
That is...
Such a bummer.
dan friesen
Kind of.
jordan holmes
It's such a bummer.
dan friesen
It's a little bit of a bummer because it is excessive in some ways.
It cost 14 million pounds for him to make because of all the diamonds and platinum.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah?
dan friesen
Is that why?
jordan holmes
I thought it was because of the labor.
dan friesen
The joke of Alex is like, they paid 54 million dollars for a semen-covered skull.
He couldn't sell it.
unidentified
No one would buy it.
jordan holmes
Why?
Why would you?
dan friesen
Yeah.
He ended up having to buy it along with a consortium.
So he put together a collection of people who bought it in order for him to get his cost back.
So at the end of the day, Damien Hirst ended up essentially breaking even for this piece of art that he made.
But the interesting thing about this, there's two things that I think are really interesting, and I'm not into art, so I don't know a whole lot.
But when I was looking into it, one of the things was the commentary that people had, like critics have, which is the modern art genre really is publicity.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Publicity and marketing is really one of the most modern art forms.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And so the idea that he was able to use publicity and get people to talk about this thing that he made is really what is more impressive.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
The idea that a lot of people don't know if he has sold it or who bought it, it gives intrigue and stuff like that.
That's one of the things that the art world is really interested in in his piece.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The second thing...
Is that the art, for the love of God, is considered in the genre of a memento mori.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Which is an art piece that is designed to remind you of your mortality.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So essentially one of the reviews of it that art historian Rudy Fuchs observed is, The skull is out of this world, celestial almost.
It proclaims victory over death.
At the same time it represents death as something infinitely more relentless.
Compared to the tearful sadness of...
Fuck you.
I know, but that's art people talk, man.
So the idea of it, though, is kind of interesting in that you have a skull, which is kind of the symbol of death, and then you have attached to it platinum and thousands of real diamonds.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it does take the piss out of materialism and money in some ways.
It is supposed to have some commentary.
Now, whether it's successful or not is another story.
I have no idea.
I'm not an art critic.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But it's not some stupid piece.
There was a point that he was trying to make.
And he is a legitimate artist.
He is someone who has put out tons of work.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, my first reaction to that is, go fuck yourself.
dan friesen
Sure.
It's a waste of diamonds.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, like diamonds are something that we need.
They're forever.
No, it's...
dan friesen
But his whole idea that, like...
jordan holmes
Also, I do think he used semen as glue for those diamonds.
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
I think that's obvious.
dan friesen
It's a great adhesive.
jordan holmes
I think everybody knows that.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's a great adhesive.
Semen!
It's a great adhesive!
dan friesen
That's gonna be my commercial for this podcast.
Hey guys, we're selling jizz.
jordan holmes
Hey, we're putting iodine in it.
It's deep earth crystals and deep earth balls.
dan friesen
No, we lost our deep earth semen crystals.
jordan holmes
Oh, did we lose our deep earth semen balls?
dan friesen
We did.
Oh, I gotcha.
But the idea, the very idea that someone is paying $54 million for this, again, didn't happen.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
But then the idea that they're doing it to deprive kids who they could be saving or whatever is stupid.
That's...
That's absolutely insane.
jordan holmes
It is a nonsense argument.
dan friesen
It's possible he was on a yacht with someone and they lied to him.
Like, that's the only...
jordan holmes
It's even more possible he has never been near a yacht and somebody lied to him.
dan friesen
He was hanging out with Little Yachty.
I'm making more rap references than I don't understand.
jordan holmes
That is a modern reference right there.
I do not appreciate Little Yachty, and that is not a controversial opinion.
dan friesen
All right, fair enough.
I know nothing about the man.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, like, also the idea that people go and get art and then burn it is stupid.
jordan holmes
That is very stupid.
dan friesen
So anyway, that whole thing, that entire two-minute clip is just Alex...
Drunkenly talking shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's nothing there.
No.
jordan holmes
He's pausing for insane periods of time, and he's just throwing words at the wall, and he's just...
Really what he's doing is just trying to find a way to get into their killing kids.
jon bowne
Right.
jordan holmes
That's his main goal there, is to find any way to make rich people be killing kids.
dan friesen
Right, and we're going to get to that in a minute.
But at the same time, he...
He needs to do no further work than just saying the art world is decadent and they're excessive.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We all agree with that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Most people agree that the art world...
But at the same time...
jordan holmes
Even if you're, like...
dan friesen
We're liberal dudes.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
We're open-minded.
We would agree with that statement.
jordan holmes
Yeah, for the most part.
I mean, like, even your important artists, who I would say probably like Ai Weiwei, the Chinese artist who is openly...
Yeah, I can see you making the jerk-off symbol right there.
No, he's the Chinese artist and activist who is basically fighting the Chinese government.
The horribly repressive and stifling Chinese government, trying to censor everybody.
So what did he make?
He's made a bunch of different stuff.
One of the big things that happened, though, is he was part of the Chinese Olympics.
He was part of the design committee for that.
And he was the first person as part of that to come out and say, this is just bullshit propaganda.
What I thought it was going to be is very different from...
From what it wound up being.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
He was imprisoned.
He was jailed for speaking out against them.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
He is one of the artists who is more...
dan friesen
So that's not decadent.
jordan holmes
No.
No.
dan friesen
Sure, there's revolutionary art.
jordan holmes
Now there's some self-indulgent bullshit that he's doing, but it's still...
dan friesen
That's kind of unavoidable in that world.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, it's art.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, but I mean, look, at the end of the day, the bottom line is Alex Jones is fucking stupid.
But what you can't take away from him is that he's studied.
Alex Jones.
unidentified
Yes, you can.
dan friesen
Has researched, and you don't even fucking know what he's studying.
jordan holmes
I really don't.
dan friesen
Do you want to know what he's studying?
jordan holmes
I kind of don't.
alex jones
See, when you study black magic, which I have studied, the public exhibition of what you're doing gives it more power when you do it.
So you say, oh, we have photos of naked enslaved children on our walls, and we're in the Washington Post promoting our deviant art.
Notice the news said I retracted that Podesta and his family need to be investigated.
I never said that.
I said the pizza place the media focused on has no evidence of that and Alfonis and all that.
They should be left alone because the media focused on them.
I never recanted anything.
I said I brought up what I said to expose the real stuff.
dan friesen
I said.
jordan holmes
Pause.
unidentified
Pause.
alex jones
Let's see.
I can't hope for those lawsuits.
jordan holmes
Now we're back.
alex jones
In a Machiavellian way, I have to do the right thing but then realize, oh, that was God's plan.
And I just sit back and I think, these people want to be Machiavelli.
They don't even know why they're worshipping a skull that somebody with diseases masturbated on and gave $54 million to.
dan friesen
Again, you're an idiot.
jordan holmes
What is fucking...
I want to know more about him studying black magic.
dan friesen
Oh, sure.
jordan holmes
That, to me...
I just saw him in fucking Hogwarts.
dan friesen
No, I think he's...
jordan holmes
Reading the library.
dan friesen
I think he's read the lyrics of that Santana song.
That's what's happened.
So, let's just jump...
jordan holmes
Sorry, again, he's watched The Craft and just assumes that's real.
dan friesen
Let's just jump into this next clip because he already introduced it.
This is some more talk about the Pizzagate stuff.
There'll be a lot further discussion on the next episode.
jordan holmes
I knew there was no way that his apology would stick.
dan friesen
No, of course not.
jordan holmes
There's no way that his brain would allow that apology to exist.
And then just move on.
It had to have come back to, no, no, no, I apologize, but only to, and even then, I didn't really apologize.
That's the work of God.
dan friesen
Well, he mentioned a lawsuit in that last clip we just listened to, and he has said that James Oliphant has threatened to sue him.
So that's confirmed.
He has said that.
jordan holmes
As well, he should have.
And should still do.
dan friesen
But that's why he apologized and retracted that stuff on the air.
But now he's spinning a bullshit yarn about it.
And trying to transition it into I am a defender of the children.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And far be it for me, I would never say that abuse of children isn't a real issue.
It's absolutely a real issue.
And I support investigation of it.
I don't support what he's doing.
But anyway, we'll get to that at another time.
This is just a straight-up lie about the situation with Pizzagate.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I mean, I wonder what's going to happen.
I don't know how they could even have a court case.
CNN was all licking their lips about it.
Oh, Sue Alex Jones for saying pedophilia exists or whatever.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's so drunk.
alex jones
They think like...
I made retractions because the media started focusing and then we jumped on it.
People that we can't prove stuff's going on with and made up bullshit about...
You know, basements and all this.
It wasn't true.
Then I saw it.
I was like, what the hell?
Before I was ever contacted.
Anything.
unidentified
I walk in and I go, what the hell is this?
dan friesen
Bullshit!
jordan holmes
Bullshit!
dan friesen
I have to pause because I want to let his words play.
But then also the contacting, what he's talking about is James Aliphantus sent him a letter.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Threatening a lawsuit.
Yeah.
alex jones
Said, kids, that's not real.
Oh, well, it's on the news.
And I said, I don't care if it's on CNN.
It's bullshit.
Take it down.
Ugh.
jordan holmes
Fuck.
alex jones
That's a honeypot.
My gut knew it was horseshit.
dan friesen
So his gut knew that it was horseshit.
jordan holmes
That was a honeypot.
That's his trick?
That it was planted there in order to trick Alex Jones into publicizing it.
dan friesen
Or just everybody into publicizing it.
In order to get heat off of the real pedophiles.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Who are elaborately running around in the government and what have you.
jordan holmes
Of course, of course.
If you distract everybody by faking the fact that it's not happening...
At one place.
That discredits you.
So that gives them cover to continue pedophiling all over the place.
dan friesen
I want to be clear.
I was watching Pizzagate happen from day one.
Cruising conspiracy blogs on these forums.
I watched it develop.
jordan holmes
As we know, cruising was made for love.
dan friesen
I love it when we're cruising conspiracy blogs.
jordan holmes
When we're cruising together.
dan friesen
I watched it develop from the kernel of an idea.
To about four months ago or so is when I was like, I'm done with this bullshit.
I'm tired of this.
And the whole time, it was all about the pizza place.
Everything was about the pizza place.
I watched Alex's videos on it, which he has now deleted.
Of course.
And the way he's presenting his position on it is a complete lie.
jordan holmes
So as long as you don't have any evidence of you...
Doing exactly what you're doing.
dan friesen
I'd like to give a shout-out to one of our friends on Twitter, OutBlinker.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
He sent me a little link.
Media Matters has a copy of one of the videos that Alex Jones deleted about Pizzagate, which let's listen to a little bit of it now.
jordan holmes
Oh, you're so good.
Thank you, Al Blinker.
alex jones
Thank you, Al Blinker.
All the old legends tell us about evil people.
As they go after our children, and history shows that every major elite in history, once it became corrupt, set up a priesthood that sacrificed children to dark gods.
And that is still going on today.
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
Now, I want to be clear.
Everybody in the WikiLeaks is involved in this, clearly.
You have to go investigate it for yourself, but I will...
dan friesen
Before he even gets into it, I just want to say, I've read all the WikiLeaks that are relevant to Pizzagate.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
All this stuff.
I've read all the Podesta emails.
What he is saying, the quotes, is not in there.
jordan holmes
Not even close.
dan friesen
He hasn't read them.
At all.
jordan holmes
I'm a big fan of how WikiLeaks has...
Basically gone from hero to villain on all sides of the spectrum of political opinions.
Every single time somebody mentions WikiLeaks, you can almost guarantee six months from now, they will mention WikiLeaks in the exact...
Opposite opinion about it.
dan friesen
At the same time, almost everybody will say, if you mention them.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
At any point in time, 85% of the public will be like, I don't want to deal with you.
So he's going to reference a couple of these emails, and the way he characterizes them makes it clear that he hasn't read them, someone has just told him about them, and he has embellished upon them.
jordan holmes
Can't imagine our Alex doing that.
dan friesen
Not at all.
jordan holmes
This must be a very different Alex.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
alex jones
Warn you.
This story that's been the biggest thing on the internet for several weeks, Pizzagate as it's called, is a rabbit hole that is horrifying to go down.
Now, if you're a radio listener, this is a powerful video.
dan friesen
I want to also be clear, at this point in Pizzagate's existence, 100% of it was about James Oliphantus.
100% of it was about Clinton, Podesta, Oliphantus, the basement.
Of Comet Ping Pong Pizza.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's what the entire investigation was about.
It was about James Oliphantus' Instagram page and weird things that had been posted.
Shit like that.
It was the dumbest speculation ever.
So the idea that Alex can claim, we're covering this but we weren't talking about the pizza place.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That was a honey trap.
We weren't going to fall for that.
Is ludicrous.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
Now let's let him play himself out.
alex jones
I've had it reposted.
Because, again, he finished it, I guess, on Wednesday.
It went out Thursday on the nightly news that was taped the day before.
dan friesen
He's talking about Joe Biggs' video that he made about Pizzagate, and then he got fired.
jordan holmes
Joe Biggs' bullshit, bullshit video.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
This is on Infowars.com.
Pizzagate is real.
The only question is, what exactly is it?
Because I'd said, man, I hope this is drug-dealing code word or something, or maybe they got the wrong manual, because the FBI says this is pedophilia manuals.
jordan holmes
They didn't.
alex jones
These are the terms they use.
And then here's the New York Times.
Fake News Onslaught targets pizzeria as a nest of child traffickers.
Hey, I don't know why the pizzeria and the one down the street have symbols in the FBI dossier.
I don't know why there's devil worship art on the walls.
I don't know why it's connected to Batista.
I don't know why they got rock singers there talking about, you know, going after kids or whatever.
unidentified
This is what's going on, though.
alex jones
And so maybe it's just some genre they picked up.
They don't know what they're involved in.
I'm not accusing them of anything.
unidentified
Huh?
alex jones
The little...
I mean, it's not like they look like little piggy people or anything.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
Not like they fit all the clichés or anything.
jordan holmes
You could have just stopped there.
alex jones
Just like nice people to me, but the point is that this is tied into Podesta with thousands of emails with, we're going to have the six-year-old, the seven-year-old, and eight-year-old in the hot tub for your entertainment out at the ranch house.
They can be a little persnickety, but they are also willing and enjoy it.
dan friesen
None of that was in the email that he referenced.
That Podesta email was just someone who said that, you know, we're going to have these three kids over, so they'll be there for entertainment.
You won't be not entertained, essentially.
jordan holmes
They're good kids!
dan friesen
It's essentially being like, hey, they're kids of this age.
They're a fucking handful.
Good luck.
And they mention a hot tub because he has one.
They're going to be in that pool.
jordan holmes
Oh, they're going to be in that pool.
dan friesen
Well, yeah, that's what my parents would say if I was going to someone's house in the fucking pool.
Like, Dan, you're not going to be able to talk him out of getting out in that pool.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There's no way.
But he's like, oh, they're persnickety, but they're willing.
That's all Alex Jones fetishizing, editorializing.
He is not, that's not based in reality at all.
That is him.
And he's already clearly invalidated his own thing.
We're like, we didn't investigate the pizza place.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He's already done it.
Two minutes into this clip.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He's already been shown to be a liar.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It gets worse.
jordan holmes
Well, he's a lemony persnickety of series unfortunate events.
There we go.
alex jones
I mean, there's thousands of these.
You're reading it going, what the hell is this?
And you start reading it.
unidentified
There's thousands and thousands and thousands and you know.
jordan holmes
He sounds drunk there, too.
dan friesen
He kind of does.
jordan holmes
That does not sound good.
unidentified
Thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands.
dan friesen
You start to realize that he might always be drunk.
jordan holmes
He might always be drunk.
dan friesen
But there are thousands of emails that got leaked.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because that's how emails work.
dan friesen
Most of them have nothing to do with even the fake code.
The fake pedophile code.
No.
jordan holmes
No, this is all nonsense.
If you want to debunk Pizzagate, it's everywhere.
I'm talking not specifically to you.
I'm talking to everybody who's like, I don't know about Pizzagate.
Fucking Google it, and you can find all the bullshit and how it works.
dan friesen
The important point that I want to make is that Alex's position about what he reported and stuff is a total lie.
jordan holmes
Absolutely a lie!
dan friesen
So let's get a little deeper.
alex jones
There's something real bad.
Oh, I'll see you at the feast tonight.
Oh, we'll have lots of blood and semen.
Oh, good.
jordan holmes
That is good.
alex jones
And then they had, like, Time Magazine worshipping this high priestess the week after we exposed her about news, all this PR, like, oh, we'll show them.
They're attacking our high priestesses.
We'll just put them in the news better.
Like, we're all upstanding and out in the open and good people.
dan friesen
He's talking about Marina Abramovich, who's just a performance artist.
And then she's the jewel-encrusted skull of performance art.
You know, like, she's...
She's the same sort of thing.
She's an artist.
jordan holmes
That's my new reference now.
Oh, yeah, he's the jewel-encrusted skull of pizza makers.
dan friesen
Right, but you know what I mean?
It's like, if you want to attack an artist by trying to pretend that their art is literal, you're 100% missing the point.
jordan holmes
But we've already established that he has no distinction between the world of art.
And the world of reality.
dan friesen
Fiction and reality.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Metaphor and...
jordan holmes
He has no concept of it.
dan friesen
Literal and metaphor.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
So, of course...
So, to him, any kind of art is 100% literal.
unidentified
And...
jordan holmes
So, it has to be...
dan friesen
And suspect.
jordan holmes
And suspect.
dan friesen
Everything is...
jordan holmes
Well, I'll tell you what.
Art is not Americana.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Cars are Americana.
dan friesen
Damn right.
Especially Ferraris that are made in Italy.
alex jones
Look, I've been careful about all this.
This is Lawsuit City.
I don't know what the hell is going on with these people.
He was right.
jordan holmes
He was right on.
It is Lawsuit City.
alex jones
She does it privately.
Including her Ask Me Anything Reddit accounts.
I mean, I know real bathymet worship when I see it, but...
jordan holmes
Who doesn't?
alex jones
Thousands of emails.
I'm not ready to accuse these people of this.
It's up to you to research it for yourself.
But you've got to go to InfoWars.com and actually see the photos and videos inside these places.
You've got to see their menus.
You've got to see it all, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
So you just said in the clip from...
jordan holmes
Go to Infowars.com, where we have posted all of this information.
dan friesen
About these specific pizza places.
jordan holmes
The specific pizza places, what's on their menu, who the people are.
dan friesen
On the clip we just played from the March 30th, what we're talking about in this episode, he talked about how when he saw these menus, like, this is fake.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
On this clip...
jordan holmes
Very much real.
dan friesen
We posted it as news on our site.
You gotta see this.
jordan holmes
He does kind of say, decide for yourself.
dan friesen
Right, but that's because he knows it's Lawsuit City.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and it is Lawsuit City.
dan friesen
He's dancing around, but I don't think he did a good enough job.
He's very overt in this, like, I don't want to get sued.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But he's still...
jordan holmes
You know that when you do something where you could get sued, just saying, like, I don't want to get sued is not...
No.
Hey, all I'm saying is that Donald Trump has murdered 6,000 people.
Now, I don't want to get sued for libel or lying about somebody.
I'm just saying.
I've posted all of that information on knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
Now we've got to delete this episode.
unidentified
Oh, no!
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
dan friesen
I'm going to give you a different example.
Alex Jones has paid for multiple abortions.
I don't care if you sue me.
jordan holmes
I don't want to get sued.
dan friesen
Fuck you.
You know why?
jordan holmes
Because he said he's paid for multiple abortions?
dan friesen
Yes, exactly.
I got it!
Whatever we say, I can back up with documentation or Alex Jones' own words.
jordan holmes
So what you're saying is that we have never gone to Lawsuit City.
dan friesen
No.
Nor will we ever.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Also, our DMs are open.
You want to come and try and fuck with me?
Get at me.
Fuck you.
jordan holmes
I love defensive, Dan.
dan friesen
No, I'm not talking to listeners.
No, that's to Alex Jones.
unidentified
I know.
dan friesen
Okay.
alex jones
Gentlemen, and then you've got to see the FBI law enforcement manuals showing the code words that are used.
And by the way, I didn't just believe this.
I went to the FBI site.
I went and looked it all up.
And people ask, well, why weren't you on this earlier?
We were on it from the beginning.
We've been on it the last couple weeks since the election.
But we're fighting on hundreds of fronts here.
Let's go ahead and go to the report.
Pizzagate is real.
The question is, how real is it?
What is it?
Something's going on.
Something's being covered up.
It needs to be investigated.
So just call it fake news.
These are real WikiLeaks.
This is real stuff going on.
Here it is.
jon bowne
A warning to viewers, the following images are disturbing.
This all began after WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange released hundreds of thousands of secret documents.
dan friesen
I'm not going to play all of this.
This is a guy named John Bound.
jordan holmes
He's just a voiceover contractor?
dan friesen
He's a guy like Mark Dice.
He makes videos and Alex Jones posts.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
Because he sounds like he's got a pretty solid voiceover voice.
dan friesen
Not as good as this guy.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
I could see him just being like a studio musician kind of thing where it's like, hey, we need some quick voiceover.
Send it over to this guy and he'll record whatever you say.
dan friesen
He's sitting around halfway in a bottle.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
All right, John, get in there.
unidentified
I don't want to play the whole thing because it's like a world where people.
jordan holmes
Eat pizza.
What do they do underneath that pizza?
dan friesen
Actually, I do want to play this whole thing.
Are you alright with that?
jordan holmes
I guess.
dan friesen
It's like another five minutes or so.
I want to play it just to illustrate that they did not...
They had no radar.
They were tricked by all of these things that are horribly debunked now at this point.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
And, like, sure, this is John Bounce saying these things.
It's not Alex Jones saying them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he's giving it a platform.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
You gotta give him that.
jon bowne
tailing a backstabbing Clinton foundation, but it now appears the real truth Assange was leading us to was hidden between the blurred lines of Hillary Clinton's campaign manager, John Podesta's, released emails.
Fast forward past John Podesta's brother, Tony's, casual email exchange with Thelemic Spirit Cooking Adherentity.
Wow, I would not hire him to voice over.
This is terrible.
This is awful.
Predatory pedophiles.
dan friesen
It's like he has the tone, but he doesn't have the pacing.
unidentified
He has a good voice, but he doesn't know how to read.
jordan holmes
No, he doesn't know how to read.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, maybe that's the problem with everyone involved in InfoWars.
They're all illiterate.
jordan holmes
Maybe he's got a little earpiece and he just says the word after the voice in his head says it.
dan friesen
That would be so hard.
jordan holmes
It would be very hard.
dan friesen
That'd be a bad system.
jordan holmes
It's a bad system.
It's been done before, though.
I'll tell you that.
dan friesen
Come on, John Bowne.
Get it together.
jon bowne
Using a code to communicate child sex trafficking as casualty as ordering a pizza.
An FBI unclassified document from WikiLeaks revealed symbols and logos used by pedophiles to identify sexual preferences.
To include those who sexually abuse children as well as those who produce, distribute, and trade child pornography are using various types of identification logos or symbols to recognize one another and distinguish their sexual preferences and So they have badges?
dan friesen
I mean, the way that everyone on the blogs would talk about it, all the conspiracy sites would talk about, like, gays used to have different colored handkerchiefs to indicate what they were into, that sort of thing.
So they're, like, little symbols for, like, I'm into little girls, I'm into little boys, or whatever.
jordan holmes
That has such the ring of made-up bullshit to it.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
That's, to me, you say that and I hear...
dan friesen
You know what it has the ring of?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
John Hodgman's hobo symbols.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you're right!
In my head, I hear exactly the same thing.
Like, do you remember the local news panic where it's like, oh, your teens are having rainbow lipstick parties.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And you're like, what the fuck are you talking about?
dan friesen
No one's ever done that.
jordan holmes
No one has ever done that.
dan friesen
No.
No, it's the same with any youthful sexual maneuvers that people make up.
jordan holmes
It's all like, children are probably having better sex than you.
dan friesen
Be afraid!
It's the bad version of folklore in some ways.
But what I want to get to is these symbols are basically like, one of them is a swirl, like a...
What would it be?
A spiral?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I've never seen that anywhere else.
dan friesen
Instead of a spiral, but it's not circular, it's triangular.
unidentified
Whoa!
dan friesen
And so one of the best of pizza, their logo is like sort of a triangular swoosh thing.
And they're like, why would it be this?
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I don't know, so this is a pizza or triangular?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know what the fuck you're trying to make of it.
jordan holmes
Why is the fucking Washington football team's logo a goddamn racist bullshit little picture there?
dan friesen
Another one of these symbols is like a butterfly kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Right, because butterflies are cute.
dan friesen
So it's got two big wings up top and two small wings at the bottom.
And there's a picture in Comet Ping Pong's menu that is two ping pong paddles that are crossed.
And it looks not at all like a butterfly in the sense that the paddles make the big top wings and the handles make two...
If you're really willing to stretch for it, choose small wings.
That's fucking proof.
jordan holmes
That is insane.
dan friesen
And that's the video that's playing behind John Bowne's report.
unidentified
These are the dead ringer images.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
The split screen of...
Gotcha.
jon bowne
Investigators should also be attentive to pedophilia symbols advertised on websites.
During examinations of computer files, investigators should be conscious of subjects who try to conceal child pornography by labeling them with symbols instead of typical, suggestive, explicit names.
Thus, the interest in code words.
Now, clues.
The menu from Comet Ping Pong.
Notice the symbol of the ping pong paddles and its cleverness.
jordan holmes
Well, you know...
dan friesen
A place where their legitimate business plan is...
Hey, we got ping pong paddles.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
We got ping pong tables.
jordan holmes
What the fuck is wrong with you idiots?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's insane.
jordan holmes
I hate you people so much.
Not you, our listeners.
I'm speaking to Alex Jones.
dan friesen
And John Bown.
jordan holmes
And John Bown.
dan friesen
And I'm speaking to John Bown.
I don't know if it's B-A-U-M or Bound.
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
Yeah, it doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
He's never going to make it on our show.
dan friesen
So he gets more, like, he legitimately just fucking goes hard at the pizza place.
Yeah.
Brings up images that are debunked as having any meaning.
Even stuff that James Elephantus has addressed himself.
And been like, oh, yeah, that picture of a young girl with her hands taped to a table?
That was my niece.
jordan holmes
Yep, makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Or that was my goddaughter.
They were playing around.
Her sister taped her to the table and we thought it was funny.
jordan holmes
You know, like how things are funny.
dan friesen
How relatives...
Can have jokes with each other.
And shit like that.
It's like, what the fuck are you doing?
jordan holmes
It's such an example of that kind of mass psychosis that is built into certain human beings.
Just like the fucking Salem witch trials, where it's just like, out of nowhere, people are like, it's...
Fucking witches!
Kill them all!
I don't know.
I don't know.
We're just insane.
We're afraid.
So we have to find something to zero in on and ruin everybody.
dan friesen
I recently actually studied the Salem Witch Trial a little bit, and it's actually kind of interesting how economic forces were kind of involved in that, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, what I love about it is when it stopped, everybody just went, hmm.
Oh, we're never talking about this again.
This was dumb.
dan friesen
Yeah, ooh, we should have burned those books so future generations wouldn't know about this.
jordan holmes
Should have not done that.
Let's all just move on.
dan friesen
So anyway, he's very clearly going at Comet Ping Pong.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Just John Bound's report, I think, is legally actionable, quite frankly.
jordan holmes
John Bound should be fucking...
dan friesen
John Bound might not be a real person.
jordan holmes
That's a good question.
dan friesen
He could just be a voice.
This could be an automated voice.
jordan holmes
That actually makes sense.
dan friesen
John Bound could be a robot.
jordan holmes
This could be Siri.
dan friesen
Yeah, then Alex could be hiding behind John Bound as like, hey, it's another person who makes these reports.
jordan holmes
All right, I think we're going a little bit too far here.
dan friesen
Anyway, I want to play this.
I want to play just the...
jordan holmes
Fight fire with more conspiracy fire!
dan friesen
Well, that seems to be the theme of this.
jordan holmes
That does seem to be what we do.
dan friesen
I want to just play the end of it so we can get Alex's response to the report.
We can cut out like four minutes of this bullshit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is going to...
jon bowne
To the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children and the FBI, 460,699 children went missing in 2015.
dan friesen
Yes, that's real, but that doesn't relate.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
To this pizza place.
jordan holmes
Well, that pizza place accounts for all of them, right?
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
dan friesen
Because they want the adrenochrome.
We went over this in a past episode.
jordan holmes
Fuck it.
jon bowne
We know of.
Mr. Aliphantis, this isn't a witch hunt, and it isn't an attack from fake news that your boyfriend, David Brock, founder of Media Matters, would have us all ignore.
unidentified
What?
jon bowne
Either you are the unlucky victim of a fake news onslaught due to your own poorly initiated publicity.
Or a decades-old pedophile ring operating in the power-hoarding shadows of Washington, D.C. is about to be opened from your front door.
John Bowne for Infowars.com.
alex jones
Trump won.
Hillary stole five states.
It was ordered to stand down by the intelligence agencies or everything else that's going to come out on this.
If you're a radio listener, you're lucky.
You didn't actually see the video.
The art they tweet in Facebook is of children being murdered.
Cut in pieces and raped by men with giant genitalia.
dan friesen
It's not.
alex jones
So.
jordan holmes
Also, I don't think the size of the genitalia matters in this particular situation.
alex jones
So, I don't know anymore.
But that's what they're pushing.
That's what they got hanging up in there.
And it's what they're doing.
And I can't go out there and investigate it myself.
We've had reporters on that have been there.
They say it's really creepy because I don't have the self-control to be around these type of people.
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
You want us to cover Pizzagate?
We have covered it.
We are covering it.
And all I know is, God help us, we're in the hands of Pure Evil.
We'll be right back.
I'm all shown in FullWars.com.
dan friesen
So yeah, there you go.
That's, I mean, that's absolute, 100% evidence that his narrative of what he covered is a lie.
And that's not even the worst.
I can't find still the clip where I very directly remember him talking about how someone should go check it out.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Like, I'm sure he's fucking scrubbed the internet of that one.
jordan holmes
It's somewhere.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's gotta be.
jordan holmes
Probably in the WikiLeaks.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Probably in the same WikiLeaks that they used that from was also like, I bet Alex Jones is gonna fall for this bullshit.
dan friesen
So if anybody has any more hot tips on those Pizzagate videos that Alex made, I'd appreciate it because I'd like to be able to prove these things that I know to be true.
jordan holmes
I recommend that somebody goes to Alex Jones's house.
No, please don't.
I don't want to get sued.
dan friesen
So, anyway, we'll get more into...
Again, I want to be totally clear.
The abuse of children is very real.
It is a problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and this is bullshit, exploitative nonsense.
dan friesen
Yes, 100%.
jordan holmes
It drums up your legitimate fear and redirects it away from something that matters to some bullshit.
dan friesen
Yes, and it's only to make money and to demonize opponents.
It's pathetic, and I resent it.
But I also resent the rest of...
Alex's drunk ramblings.
Let's get back into it.
jordan holmes
Let's get back into some good old drunken ramblings.
dan friesen
This is where things take a turn for the racist.
alex jones
And it's like these people that are weasels think that I sit here and open myself up to attack because I'm weak.
It's the opposite.
It's because I'm real.
And I want the return of real.
People.
jordan holmes
Let me tell you something.
Are those the spectrum?
It's either weak or real.
dan friesen
Also, maybe because it's WrestleMania weekend, I'm getting into shoot promo mode.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But Alex, you want real people?
We're right here.
We are not funded by anybody.
jordan holmes
No, we are really not funded by anybody.
dan friesen
We both have day jobs.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
We are creative types.
Neither of us are beholden to the Democratic Party.
jordan holmes
Well, you know what?
dan friesen
We're independent thinkers.
jordan holmes
As you know, the regenerative power of creativity is keeping us away from Satanism.
dan friesen
Sure.
And we're right here.
Real people, Alex.
Bring it.
If you really want some, come get some.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Come after us in our...
dan friesen
Please don't.
jordan holmes
You are bad at wrestling programs.
dan friesen
Yeah, that just fell apart.
Although that character would be awesome in the WWE.
Like, really confident guy.
He's like, hold on now.
jordan holmes
Wait, you know what?
I changed my mind.
dan friesen
I thought better of this.
jordan holmes
Mr. Austin, I would prefer if you did not stone cold me.
dan friesen
Steven.
Steven.
jordan holmes
Steven, calm it down.
I only want you to drink one of those PBRs.
dan friesen
Steven, we are co-workers.
I do mean sincerely, though, the idea that, like...
jordan holmes
Kayfabe thrown out the window immediately.
dan friesen
I am 100% confident that were I to get into a conversation with Alex, I mean, I couldn't handle his yelling and all that stuff, but...
unidentified
Cupcake!
jordan holmes
Cupcake!
dan friesen
I couldn't handle that.
jordan holmes
Cupcake!
dan friesen
But I don't care.
jordan holmes
Let's roleplay.
dan friesen
No, I don't want to do that.
I do it in my head enough.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Oh, I believe you.
dan friesen
On our website, knowledgefight.com, and throughout the podcast, I think we have compiled...
Enough evidence.
jordan holmes
More than enough evidence.
dan friesen
That if I were to ever talk to him, I could just be like, oh, what about this?
And I could quite clearly illustrate that he is a liar.
jordan holmes
Dude, I don't want you to wind up in a coma.
dan friesen
Alex.
jordan holmes
We know he's put people in comas before.
dan friesen
Multiple.
jordan holmes
Now, admittedly, I bet you'd get some great teeth from his dad.
Once he knocks your teeth out, you're going to get even better ones.
Have you considered that possibility?
dan friesen
I'd like the teeth from the For Love of God statue.
Anyway, here we go.
This is where it gets racist.
alex jones
Well, I'm going to end this because the crew's got to go and see their families.
I appreciate Marcos Morales and Rob Dew and the rest of the crew being here.
jordan holmes
Is this where Rob Dew is in the corner?
dan friesen
Not yet.
alex jones
The left tells you all day how much they care about you when they're the ones that want eugenics and death of humanity.
unidentified
I don't care what color your skin is or where you came from.
alex jones
This is fundamental to everybody.
If you've got good music, I'm going to listen to your music whether you're white, whether you're an albino, or whether you're from Mexico, or whether you're from South Africa.
jordan holmes
Really less white.
That's how he sees the world, right?
alex jones
If you've got good food, I've gone in restaurants owned by ethnic groups that clearly are racist against white people because the food's so damn good.
And he's awesome.
Sorry, I just want the food.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
I don't need to...
dan friesen
I think at this point he's hungry.
jordan holmes
Can we...
dan friesen
I think he's...
I think he's at the point of...
unidentified
I've gone into restaurants.
jordan holmes
I've gone into Thai places.
dan friesen
God, I want some Thai.
unidentified
I love...
I love Thai food.
dan friesen
Oh, my God.
jordan holmes
You ever have Thai food?
dan friesen
Rob, dude, you have a burrito.
unidentified
Dude.
dan friesen
God damn it.
unidentified
Dude.
jordan holmes
Give me a burrito.
dan friesen
I need to get some food on this burrito.
alex jones
You get it?
jordan holmes
You get it, Rob, dude?
I want your burritos.
dan friesen
This is where he lashes out a little bit.
jordan holmes
Well, of course.
alex jones
Sit here and tell you that I'm Not racist to prove myself to you.
Everything I do is about the people.
Because I'm not a sociopath or a psychopath.
I know metaphysically, and it's been proven with mathematics and everything, that I'm connected to everybody.
Does that mean if they brainwash a bunch of Chinese being brought in, now more than Latin Americans, to hate America and to hate white people, I've got to stand against it?
The Chinese are one of the most racist insular groups there are.
I don't think it's a Chinese, it's a fact.
unidentified
There we go.
dan friesen
Alright.
I think that you and I might believe that generalizing a group of people based on their race is maybe the definition of racism.
jordan holmes
I don't know where you're going with this.
You're going to need to back up this with evidence, my friend.
dan friesen
I think fundamentally...
jordan holmes
What's the definition of racism?
Let's look it up right now.
Is it generalizing a group of people based on race?
dan friesen
I think that that's, I mean, prejudice is certainly wrapped up in that.
I mean, let's see.
Let's see what the formal definition of racist is.
jordan holmes
Is it just a picture of Alex Jones?
dan friesen
Oh man, that would be great.
jordan holmes
Oh man, it's actually a picture of Comet Ping Pong.
dan friesen
A person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice, there we go, against people of other races or who believes that a particular race is superior to others.
jordan holmes
Huh.
dan friesen
So, I mean, he shows discrimination, certainly, in the sense that he discriminates against groups of people and lumps them in.
So, I don't know.
He definitely seems to be very concerned with the white race.
jordan holmes
I don't care if you're white or albino.
dan friesen
That was funny.
jordan holmes
That was funny.
dan friesen
That was really funny.
jordan holmes
Why did he go to albino first?
dan friesen
Because he's drunk.
jordan holmes
I don't care if you're albino.
dan friesen
He's trying to come up with...
Hey, listen.
jordan holmes
I'm going to back him up on this one.
I also don't care if you're albino.
dan friesen
I love Brother Ali.
He's a great rapper.
He's the only albino musician I can come up with.
jordan holmes
Listen, if you have a...
Alright.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I can't do this anymore.
dan friesen
No.
But you know what you can do?
Listen to him dive deeper into his prejudiced hole.
jordan holmes
Good.
alex jones
I don't dislike Muslims because they've got brown skin, a lot of them.
I dislike them because they're always killing each other.
And yeah, we're killing them too.
The bomb makers want to bomb somebody.
unidentified
I get that.
alex jones
I'm not for these wars either, but man, dude, Saudi Arabia is a hellhole, man.
It's like the worst.
There ain't no rock and roll on the radio there, baby.
You know what I mean?
You want to bitch about, oh, rock and roll in America in the 50s.
Some Christians got mad.
Yeah.
In Saudi Arabia, they'll kill you if you get caught listening to rock and roll.
If you're gay, you're dead.
unidentified
So, I mean, first of all, they don't have any rock and roll there, baby.
dan friesen
That's funny.
jordan holmes
Baby, they ain't got no rock and roll.
dan friesen
That's drunk.
jordan holmes
Listen.
In the 50s, Christians were against rock and roll.
dan friesen
I saw Footloose.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Saudi Arabia?
Just a whole country of John Lithgow's.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
So, I mean, but like...
When we go back to this prejudice...
jordan holmes
The third country from the sun.
Everybody knows this.
Everybody knows this.
dan friesen
When we go back to this prejudice idea, it's that idea of like, I don't dislike Muslims because they're brown.
I dislike them because they kill each other.
That's just as bad.
unidentified
Every time.
jordan holmes
That's just as bad.
Every time he says, I don't dislike people based on...
He is exactly the old racist.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Listen, I'm not racist, but...
It's that every single fucking day.
dan friesen
You know what it is.
It's, I'm not racist because of the reasons you think.
jordan holmes
I'm racist.
I'm racist in my whole different world, man.
dan friesen
I'm racist because of the true reasons that I have.
The facts that I have that Muslims keep on killing each other, but also we keep bombing them.
unidentified
I mean, yeah, yeah, we killed.
jordan holmes
That was a weird little, that was, again, the weird little good twin being like, listen, I know we're killing them, and we're a big cause of them, and the bomb makers that I love and support so much, they gotta bomb people, so maybe they need a scapegoat, and maybe I'm the one who provides that scapegoat to them.
dan friesen
But listen.
jordan holmes
It's not Muslim.
dan friesen
That's him being drunk and not being able to figure out exactly where is the line that I draw.
Where am I undefensible?
If I just say that Muslims keep killing each other, in the morning when I wake up, am I going to have to wrestle with...
You know what?
Everyone knows that I know more about this than I was letting on.
That's what I think is going on, and that's why he brings up, I know we bombed them.
That's why I think he brings that clarification.
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
Yeah, but it only leads to more problems.
Much in the case, whenever you're really drunk and you over-explain yourself, it only gets worse.
jordan holmes
He provides way more details than he needed to there.
dan friesen
Yeah, well, here's where it gets into trans people.
jordan holmes
The best part of waking up.
It's hating Muslims everywhere.
dan friesen
And trans.
alex jones
I don't care if you're some guy and think you're a woman and you're into that.
What the hell?
I'm not out to get you.
But I shouldn't have to sit here and explain that to you and then say, by the way, leave my five-year-old alone.
Keep your hands off my five-year-old.
Don't teach them about sex.
I'm going to teach them about that when they ask when they're 12 years old.
I'm going to end this broadcast again.
Great job.
You guys should come in late tomorrow if you want.
jordan holmes
Ha ha ha ha ha!
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha!
Suppose...
dan friesen
Yes!
Supposed parting shot.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, yes.
dan friesen
I got nothing against trans people, but don't fucking molest my kids, you fucking molesty trans people.
jordan holmes
Listen, I gotta go.
Somebody just shouted at me from the corner.
I don't think I was supposed to say that.
dan friesen
And it's clear that his staff wants to leave.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
dan friesen
They thought it was going to end when Roger Stone left.
jordan holmes
Oh, did they?
dan friesen
Do you think so?
And they're like, oh, fuck.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
He's just so drunk and he's rambling.
jordan holmes
So there's no way that everybody on his staff...
dan friesen
Also, this isn't over.
jordan holmes
It's not?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
He just said he's got to get out of here.
dan friesen
He doesn't.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
That's what you do when you're drunk.
I'm going to leave.
jordan holmes
No, hold on.
That's exactly...
Hey, look, I got one more thing to say.
dan friesen
I mean, it's like what happened after our last podcast.
I was pretty drunk.
I was like, Jordan, keep hanging.
I want to talk some more.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that was fun.
dan friesen
Yeah, we're friends.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is Alex.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we are not strangers broadcasting to millions of people.
dan friesen
This is Alex making his staff stick around.
jordan holmes
I apologize.
Let me back off.
At least hundreds of people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So also, I want to say this, Alex, you're a fucking asshole and an idiot and have no understanding of the trans community, or the Muslim community for that matter.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
Basically, frankly, I don't think he understands communities.
Period.
I don't think he understands people.
dan friesen
It's degrading the way you speak about people, and you should be ashamed of yourself, especially considering that you're doing this drunk on the air.
You're a fucking monster.
And I'd like to say...
That we're not all that great.
We're just involved.
We just understand.
jordan holmes
We're not great people.
dan friesen
We just understand people a little bit.
So we're going to get to this next clip.
We're coming towards...
I'm going to be perfectly honest with you.
We're not coming towards the end of this.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
But there's probably like a half hour left of his show.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He just tried to get out.
dan friesen
I gotta be honest, I wanted to play you the entire thing.
Because after Roger Stone leaves, it's just such scatterbrained nonsense.
It's this pizza gate, it's a skull covered in jizz, it's misunderstanding scripture, racism, Islamophobia, transphobia.
And now, my friend, we are going to get into anti-Semitism.
alex jones
Today, I get up.
jordan holmes
I was worried you wouldn't know what the truth is.
alex jones
Well, I can turn your mic off because I can't hear him.
I get up this morning and I see the headline, Alex Jones says the Jewish mafia runs the world.
And I went, no, I said there's an Italian mafia, Mexican mafia, Dixie mafia is horrible.
The most powerful mafia is that they don't call them mafias.
I mean, in the South, there is a white mafia.
Let's not lie about it.
jordan holmes
A white mafia?
alex jones
I go, yeah, there's a Jewish mafia, and George Soros was part of it, and they work with the Nazis.
Books have been written on that.
They said, I said, Jews are evil.
What the hell?
Again, it's like, they say, I don't like Hispanics.
unidentified
I mean, it's just...
alex jones
It's crazy.
I mean, like, I basically am Hispanic in the food I eat, and I think Hispanic women are very beautiful.
Probably the best of the women out there.
I mean, it's just like, it's like who I am doesn't even have any currency.
These assholes lie about who I am all day long, and it pisses me off.
dan friesen
Pisses them off.
I don't, look, I don't, I'm not here to say that Alex Jones hates all Jews, but he does fall into a lot of anti-Semitic.
jordan holmes
Well, they don't have great food.
I mean, let's just face it.
dan friesen
No, they're not.
But he falls into a lot of anti-Semitic canards.
And one of the big ones is this idea that there was this group of crypto-Jews that were working behind the scenes and helping with the Holocaust.
And his idea that...
I mean, you can go to our website.
I wrote an article about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Again, we've talked about Soros.
dan friesen
About the idea that he was working with Nazis.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's absurd.
He was 13 years old at the time.
And wasn't doing anything.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
He was scared for his life.
So anyway, that's anti-Semitic.
jordan holmes
You know, like if you were Jewish and the Nazis were killing you.
dan friesen
That is anti-Semitic.
It is.
Just on its face.
It's also racist to be like, I might as well be Mexican because I love tacos.
jordan holmes
Because I eat a lot of Mexican food.
dan friesen
I love tacos and their women are beautiful.
jordan holmes
That makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
That's horribly offensive.
jordan holmes
You can't be racist.
You can't be racist.
dan friesen
That's so offensive.
jordan holmes
Nope, can't be a racist if you eat all their food and like their women.
That's just a fact.
dan friesen
But the fact is...
jordan holmes
Listen, I eat a lot of sushi, and I'm really into anime, and I love Japanese women.
I just don't think they should be people.
Anyways.
dan friesen
The idea that he uses the tacos in Mexican women as evidence that he's not racist to support his idea that, like, I didn't say anything bad about Jews, means you said some bad shit about Jews.
Like, just...
Just logically speaking, if that is your analog, you're fucked.
You have no leg to stand on.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So it gets worse.
He talks a little bit more about this.
alex jones
They know they're fake news, so they call us fake news, and they fully committed.
I've studied history, Rob.
I don't think they get out of this.
unidentified
I don't know what they're going to do after this.
rob dew
I'm befuddled at this point, because I thought I had seen it all until they're in there.
They'll just keep making stuff up.
jordan holmes
It's like the Jewish mafia thing this morning.
Jews rule the world.
alex jones
You didn't say that.
rob dew
I knew when you said the Jews thing, or when you even said the word Jew on the show, they were going to take that out of context.
alex jones
It's ridiculous.
dan friesen
It's not.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Like I said, we will eventually do, like the episode we did about Dennis Montgomery, we will do an episode like that about the protocols of the elders of Zion at some point, and I will lay out exactly how this false narrative...
jordan holmes
You're going to do a shit ton of research, and I'm going to admire you and wonder why it is I'm here.
dan friesen
You're here for a reason.
jordan holmes
Just like the Jews, anyways.
dan friesen
The idea that Alex doesn't understand that all of his sort of ideas about the globalist cabal, all of that is built from the foundation of anti-Semitism.
The fact that he pretends he doesn't understand that is ludicrous.
He has to kind of be aware of that.
And then on top of that, this idea that there is a Jewish mafia and George Soros is involved with it and they were really responsible for the Holocaust.
And as he's gotten into in the last...
It wasn't on this episode, but we will eventually address it.
He has been starting to spout some revisionist history about the Holocaust that makes me super uncomfortable.
A lot of ideas about these globalists set up Hitler, like kind of things.
They propped him up and they were making him do the things he did.
jordan holmes
Well, I will say this.
There is nothing quite so Americana as anti-Semitism.
alex jones
Fair.
dan friesen
Henry Ford?
jordan holmes
That's a real thing.
Like, a lot of Hitler's ideas came from Americans.
They did not come from Germans.
dan friesen
There was a deep Nazi contingent in America at the time.
unidentified
And Henry Ford supported them a lot.
dan friesen
Prescott Bush?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
If you read history beyond high school, where...
dan friesen
Or headlines.
jordan holmes
Yeah, where were the heroes?
Hitler was super shocked that we didn't join their side.
dan friesen
Understandably.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
For a very good reason.
dan friesen
And thank God we didn't.
jordan holmes
Really good.
dan friesen
Formally.
A lot of bad dudes here did.
jordan holmes
A lot of bad dudes.
A lot of bad dudes.
dan friesen
So at this point, Alex starts rambling about his family and oil stuff.
And I want to play this just because it's incredibly not true.
And then at the same time, there's a piece of it I want to unpack.
So here we go.
alex jones
I remember family making $100,000 a month.
All my cousins, everybody family, like people making millions a year on natural gas and oil.
jordan holmes
Like a mafia.
alex jones
Like 15 years ago, 10 years ago.
And then now because of coal and that stuff, it drove it down to nothing.
Where I have family that gets like $3,000 a month checks, and then there's property taxes on it.
So I get to be blamed.
Come back, dude.
We can finish up.
We'll get this.
I get to be blamed that I'm on the payroll of big oil and natural gas and I get zero money.
And then personally, if I was one of these self-fulfilling assholes that looked at everything in a one-dimensional thing about how do I make money, I like cheer coal being turned back on.
That's our electricity low, our factories, our jobs, the coal miners.
jordan holmes
I cheer.
Not coming back.
alex jones
The paycheck's going from $100,000 to $50,000 to $10,000 to $3,000.
unidentified
To $2,000 to $0 to negative $400 to negative $5,000.
dan friesen
So every expert...
jordan holmes
It's like price is right.
dan friesen
Every expert who's looked into it...
I mean, you can just do some research on your own and find this out.
I don't want to...
I don't want to bog down.
I don't have citations in front of me.
But the idea that clean coal exists again is complete nonsense.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
But then secondarily, the idea that coal jobs are going to come back is absurd.
jordan holmes
They're not.
dan friesen
They're not going to come back for the reasons that it's not economically viable.
It doesn't matter.
Nope.
The cost of coal is higher than the cost of other, not as polluting.
Sources of energy.
jordan holmes
It's absurd.
The biggest problem with all of that is that it is inevitable that clean energy is going to come.
dan friesen
It has to.
jordan holmes
And it is going to be more cost-effective than trying to prop up dying.
dan friesen
Well, it's inevitable or we will die.
jordan holmes
The problem is that the people are trying to keep those old industries going long enough to ensure that we all die.
Right, right, right.
It's like they're grasping for ten more years of just a little bit more so that we lose a hundred years of humanity.
dan friesen
Well, I'm sure this metaphor has been made.
jordan holmes
Not that it's too late anyways.
We're all going to die.
dan friesen
Oh, totally.
jordan holmes
Climate change is going to murder half of us.
dan friesen
The metaphor...
I think it's probably been made before, but it's like addicts wanting another hit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's like, oh, get clean tomorrow.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
That sort of thing.
jordan holmes
But the other thing- Well, and it's just billionaires.
I'm now, like, as much as I hate the GOP and Trump and Pence so much, I hate Pence so much.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It is really, like, it's not their fault.
They're idiots.
They're bought and paid for by billionaires.
They're useful idiots.
They're useful idiots.
Like, Paul Ryan, when you look at the whole healthcare thing, it's obvious he's actually just fucking stupid.
Right?
dan friesen
No, he's a policy walker.
jordan holmes
He's an idiot.
But he's bought and paid for by billionaires.
dan friesen
And he has to just do whatever they tell him.
jordan holmes
So, yeah.
I would rather people...
I would rather people go to billionaires' homes and pick it there than call your representative.
dan friesen
That would be interesting.
jordan holmes
It's going to be much better for you.
dan friesen
We're only months, maybe a year away from each other.
That eat the rich shit coming back?
jordan holmes
It has to come back, because this is insane.
This is out of control.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
This is exactly like the French Revolution.
It all feels so boxed.
Exactly like the French Revolution.
Sooner or later, we're going to have to start cutting heads off, and it's a bummer that they don't even get that.
dan friesen
The bigger bummer is that we're slightly on the wrong side of that, probably.
jordan holmes
Probably.
dan friesen
Because we're comfortable.
You know what I mean?
jordan holmes
I'm one of them.
dan friesen
We're rich compared to...
A lot of people in this country, even though we're poor as shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly, right?
dan friesen
So, we might get our heads cut off.
jordan holmes
Hey, you know what?
I'm willing to make that sacrifice.
dan friesen
If it happens, it happens.
unidentified
But...
jordan holmes
That is our basic policy towards heads getting chopped off, including our own.
dan friesen
The reason I wanted to pause this clip here, and then beyond this, Alex is just going to talk about how my family's in coal, or my family's in oil, and they love coal.
They love coal, they just want America to come back.
It's all bullshit.
But the idea that they were making hundreds of thousands of dollars a month, and then the check is down to like $3,000 now.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Trump has been in office for three months.
Jesus Christ.
The idea that their money has gone down that far...
He hasn't even brought back coal.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Not even a little bit.
dan friesen
The idea that it could possibly have that big a dent in their economic viability is bullshit.
If it's true, the reason is because their wells are gone dry.
If that's the case, then that's why.
They don't have the product to sell.
The idea that he's like...
I am going against my own self-interest and my family's self-interest.
It just literally can't be true.
jordan holmes
It's reworking the reality the same way that he does with anything else.
It's like, yes, we're losing jobs or we're losing money or so on and so forth.
But I can't say it like that.
I have to say it like, I am the hero.
He is always the hero.
dan friesen
I have one more clip about Cole and then we're going to get really weird.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So here's the last talk.
Hey, you know what?
This is actually kind of weird because it does weave into demons.
alex jones
I don't say this to be alarmist.
The real climatologists and astrophysicists say the Earth's dying.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
And isn't it crazy?
Right at the point we get technology to survive with energy, we terraform and it actually saves the planet.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
That's why I've never seen aliens.
I don't say aliens are real.
jordan holmes
Yes, you do.
alex jones
But the elites are doing everything you do to kill the planet.
You've got the bound up carbon dioxide of hundreds of millions of years of life.
And now, right when the planet doesn't have that gas, we have an energy source to put it back in the atmosphere.
unidentified
Why wouldn't we do that?
alex jones
Who could come up with that, Rob?
Who could come up with that scenario?
These are demonic people that hate humans.
rob dew
So I can only assume that they're not human if they don't like humans.
jordan holmes
Lizard people.
dan friesen
Yeah, you make a great point there, do.
jordan holmes
I can only assume that that is a perfect logical statement.
As somebody who studied logic, you have to agree that if they hate humans, they're not human.
That's just science.
dan friesen
Let me break this down.
jordan holmes
Put that together.
Use some Cartesian logic right there.
dan friesen
If one hates humans, therefore they are...
You can't even do that.
That's one premise.
jordan holmes
If I hate humans, therefore I am not human.
Makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
The second premise that's implied in there is all who hate humans are not human.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So therefore, these people aren't human.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
That second one is flawed, because I hate humans and I'm human.
jordan holmes
Um, you don't hate humans.
dan friesen
I think humanity as a whole is very problematic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was my big problem watching The Matrix.
Whenever Agent Smith is like, I think humanity is a disease, I was kind of like, yeah, you're probably right, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's one of those great...
There's a video you can find online of Rogan.
People like to take his clips and put them over swelling music.
But he does have a really interesting observation about the idea that if you fly over cities, they kind of look like...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And there's like the inflow of cars going in and out of the city, like going to work and to the suburbs to go home.
It's kind of like blood flowing in and out of arteries.
And then if you look at big cities like Los Angeles, if you're flying over them, they look like a cancer.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It looks like just a disease on the land.
That's a super interesting thought.
jordan holmes
That is an interesting thought.
dan friesen
And I'm not...
I'm not philosophically against that.
jordan holmes
Especially considering if you compare it to ants, which are...
Like, if you were an alien, and this point has been made by a million smarter people than me.
There aren't.
No, I don't know.
No, if you were an alien and you came to Earth, then your reality would be you would say that ants are the actual dominant population.
dan friesen
There are tons of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
They equal, if not outnumber our biomass.
There are continental colonies, which is mind-boggling to me.
They are warfaring, but one thing that is really true about ants is they are efficient as fuck.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We can't really compete with that level of pure, mindless efficiency.
dan friesen
Just to work.
Just getting to work.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Eh, it's because we intellectualize things.
jordan holmes
It's rhizome theory, I suppose.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
Let's get back on track.
jordan holmes
Individuality is bullshit.
Is that my point?
Is that my point?
dan friesen
Let's become more like ants and get to this next clip.
jordan holmes
I don't understand you.
I'm going to be an individual.
dan friesen
I'm going to say three out of the next four clips, we have four clips left, three out of the next four are fucked up.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
One of them is fucked up in a different way, but the other three are like, whoa.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan holmes
All right.
Let's get to it.
dan friesen
End of the night.
Everyone's left the party.
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
You cannot get this drunk ass out of your home.
dan friesen
I would like to remind everybody that what I said earlier in the show is what's going on now.
Rob Dew is sitting at the desk in the second chair, and Alex won't look at him.
jordan holmes
Not allowed to speak.
dan friesen
He's facing the other direction, and Rob Dew looks like he's ready to go.
He's got his coat on.
jordan holmes
He really has his coat on?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck yes!
dan friesen
And it's like this thing where it's like, we gotta deal with a drunk stepdad again.
It does have that feeling.
jordan holmes
That is probably what it is like to work at Infowars, right?
dan friesen
I would have to assume.
jordan holmes
It has to be that.
dan friesen
This glimpse into that world.
unidentified
Because they can't all believe any of that bullshit, right?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
It's just a gig.
dan friesen
It's so hard to tell.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think it's case by case.
I think it...
I have different feelings about different employees.
jordan holmes
Let's toast to at least one employee of InfoWars, just the camera guy, who just...
Dude, I just...
dan friesen
Sometimes Rob do.
jordan holmes
I just need benefits.
dan friesen
Sometimes Rob do.
jordan holmes
Just, I need benefits, man.
You guys give me health insurance, so...
dan friesen
I have no evidence of that.
jordan holmes
No.
No, I doubt they do, actually.
dan friesen
They could be independent contractors.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That sounds about right.
dan friesen
Anyway, here we go.
alex jones
We're doing more broadcasts and more because, you know, we're getting shut down.
We're getting curtailed.
We're getting censored.
And you know what?
Just like they wrote hieroglyphics on the walls in Africa and in Mesoamerica and in Europe and in Asia, they didn't do it on a power trip.
No one would know a thousand years later why they did it.
They did it because they wanted to transfer knowledge.
And they appreciated the knowledge they heard around the campfire, so they wanted to put it out a new way to other people.
The psychopaths and sociopaths, they think we're chumps, Rob.
Yeah.
Because we care about people.
dan friesen
That's not why.
alex jones
Because we feel interconnected.
And they know we care about the earth.
That's why they use environmentalism to get us to guilt and hate ourselves, because we actually care.
dan friesen
That's ludicrous.
jordan holmes
No, that makes perfect sense.
I like how he negated his premise immediately.
Thousands of years, scientists would have no idea what they were...
They wanted to communicate with each other.
Oh, do you mean thousands of years later we figured out they wanted to communicate with each other?
Great.
Thanks, buddy.
dan friesen
Are you talking about the beginnings of written communication?
Because before that everything was orally transmitted?
Everything was just...
There were long lineages of cultures before they had writing where everything was just done in like...
They would tell...
Right.
jordan holmes
And as we know, after playing telephone...
Every time you continue to tell a story, it is always 100% accurate.
dan friesen
It's one of those things that a lot of people don't understand, necessarily, is that Homer wasn't a person.
jordan holmes
No, he was a collection of people.
dan friesen
Homer was an oral tradition that created and carried down the books The Iliad and The Odyssey.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
Well, and there are way more books of that as well, but we just haven't recovered them.
dan friesen
Right, but those are the ones that are most prominently ascribed to Homer.
It's insane to me.
It's insane to me that people don't understand that about like, oh no, this blind poet guy wrote these books.
That's fun.
In the same way that like Socrates never wrote anything.
It was all Plato wrote a bunch of shit and ascribed these words to his teacher Socrates, which is probably an oral tradition.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So, interesting thoughts you have, Alex, about cave drawings and what have you.
But also, people don't use environmentalism against you as a weapon.
They're scared about science.
jordan holmes
I don't actually know how you would use environmentalism as a weapon.
dan friesen
Well, because his premise is that there's not enough carbon dioxide in the air, and we need more of it.
jordan holmes
That makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Well, he's talked about it a bunch.
The Earth is carbon-deprived.
So what we actually need to do is burn more coal and put more carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, and that will save us all.
What the...
jordan holmes
What the fuck is he talking about?
dan friesen
Well, because his belief is that this whole environmentalism is basically just trying to push carbon taxes and trying to shackle businesses.
jordan holmes
Right, that's what my dad believed.
dan friesen
Put it under UN control, put it under direct control of Al Gore.
jordan holmes
He doesn't go that far.
dan friesen
But that's the idea.
jordan holmes
Although that'd be cool if Al Gore controlled all carbon.
That would be a weird world to live in.
dan friesen
I am the king of carbon.
unidentified
I am Al Gore, carbon king!
dan friesen
He would be too humble to even accept that.
unidentified
Dress me!
jordan holmes
Dress me in armor made of carbon!
dan friesen
I don't know, man.
He's just so dumb.
But we don't have time, and I'm a little bit buzzed, so I don't want to get into the ideas of exactly why this version of climate denial is so fucking stupid, but maybe we can do that another day.
jordan holmes
All climate denial is stupid.
dan friesen
You know what?
jordan holmes
This particular brand.
dan friesen
You know what might be fun?
jordan holmes
Deliciously stupid.
dan friesen
You know what might be fun is we take this idea...
And you do a Dennis Montgomery-style episode about that.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
That might be a way we could flip the tables.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Possible.
jordan holmes
We can do that.
dan friesen
That's all fair conversations.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Anyway, this next clip is about how everyone hates Alex Jones for no reason.
And then it gets into something they should not have brought up.
alex jones
The point is, is that COG's the way they got rogue groups in the government.
Believing they're actually fighting some foreign takeover.
And they're now saying kill the president in major publications.
And all the Republicans that don't go along, they're Russians.
And all of us are Russians.
We're not going to supermaxes, okay?
This is what they did to the Davidians.
jordan holmes
They demonized them for 51 days.
And then they went in and killed them.
And everybody was like, hey, good job.
That is not what everyone said.
dan friesen
Did you get that?
He's talking about the branch Davidians.
jordan holmes
Yes, he did say that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I just want to make sure everyone who's listening got that.
He's talking about Waco.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Which, I don't know, I would say that's a bad corollary, but that is an example of the government kind of doing some crazy shit.
dan friesen
Right, but it's not an example of the public being like, hooray.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Everyone thought that that was...
jordan holmes
Bat shit insane.
dan friesen
Even very liberal people, conservatives also, everyone thought this is a horrifying thing to behold.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was Janet Reno, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
She went ape shit.
dan friesen
She fucked up.
She done fucked up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what?
I don't know.
dan friesen
It's very complicated.
jordan holmes
I've read books about that, and that is insane.
dan friesen
I have as well.
It's a very complicated case.
The reality is that the people there were mostly victims.
A lot of them brainwashed and willing victims.
David Koresh was a horrible, horrible person.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He was raping children.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He was...
Just, he was out of line.
jordan holmes
He was out of line!
Oh, you used your strongest words possible for him.
dan friesen
I think I might have just Alex Jones did.
I think I might have...
jordan holmes
Hey, look.
Do you know what he was?
Do you know what he really was?
dan friesen
What he really, really was?
jordan holmes
He was so uncool.
dan friesen
He was very uncool.
jordan holmes
David Koresh was uncool.
dan friesen
The reality of it is, I don't want to dive deep into that.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
But the...
The bigger point is that no one was cool with the fact that they burned people alive in that building.
unidentified
No, that's horrifying.
dan friesen
Everyone thought that was a massive overstep.
jordan holmes
Right.
Do you know what that's a lot like?
If you put a lot of carbon dioxide in the air, humanity's gonna burn alive.
dan friesen
At some point.
jordan holmes
Yep!
dan friesen
So anyway, it gets worse.
They talk more about...
But also, I want to say that this is an interesting thing to come up because Alex Jones, one of his formative experiences was watching Waco happen.
As a guy who's from Texas...
jordan holmes
Yeah, he would have been fairly nearby it.
dan friesen
Sure.
Also, it's interesting because Bill Hicks...
The guy who everyone says faked his death and became Alex Jones was deeply involved in a documentary about Waco.
So it's super interesting, this confluence of things.
jordan holmes
Everybody says he's Bill Hicks.
He's not Bill Hicks.
Everybody says he's Bill Hicks.
I think it's a joke.
Everybody says he's Bill Hicks.
dan friesen
Calm down.
jordan holmes
Got those pedophiles.
And then it comes out later that they weren't that bad.
He knew the sheriff.
He knew everybody.
rob dew
So they're going to demonize Trump, demonize Trump, demonize Trump.
So even the people who are kind of on the fence are like, well, maybe Trump is bad.
jordan holmes
The news keeps finding stuff about him.
dan friesen
No one's on the fence.
I want to say also just because they talked about...
They could have arrested Koresh at any time.
He was heavily armed.
jordan holmes
Oh, they were so heavily armed.
dan friesen
He was insanely heavily armed.
He had an army with him, essentially.
Small army, but still a bunch of people who were dedicated to him who were heavily armed.
jordan holmes
They were gunrunners.
dan friesen
And the person...
So, as I understand it, I don't know all the details, but as I understand it, he usurped the church from somebody else by seducing that person's wife.
And then when that guy died, the son was supposed to take over the church, and he did.
And so the two of them got into a little bit of a holy standoff.
David Koresh, who was the lover of this prophetess, and the son of the prophetess.
And they got into this thing, like, who should be in charge of the church?
They dared each other to do a bunch of, like, sort of raise the dead kind of shit.
And it ended up...
jordan holmes
Like, what was it?
Who was it?
Was it Elijah who compared...
Like, hey...
Bring all of your holy men and light this giant thing on fire.
Like that whole...
Do you remember that whole...
dan friesen
Or even just Moses.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, having to do all these tricks to show off to the Egyptians.
jordan holmes
Look!
Snakes!
unidentified
Bah!
dan friesen
There's that whole like...
jordan holmes
That's my summation of Moses.
unidentified
Hey!
jordan holmes
Snakes!
unidentified
Bah!
Bah!
dan friesen
So they tried to do that sort of brinksmanship game.
And what it ended up with is David Koresh and his followers storming...
The other guy's compound with guns.
So, like, he had a history of armed conflict with people and was deeply, heavily armed and was not coming out of this compound.
He was wanted for arrest and wasn't coming out.
jordan holmes
Uncool number thing.
Uncool thing number two.
dan friesen
Yeah, so, like, this idea that, like, ah, he would have gone willingly at any point, there's strong indications he wouldn't have.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, he never would have.
dan friesen
But at the same time, of course you shouldn't burn these people alive in that building.
Of course not.
jordan holmes
That's a strong stance to take.
dan friesen
Of course not.
unidentified
Dan, I don't know if you want to die on that hill.
jordan holmes
The don't burn people alive hill?
dan friesen
I'm fine being wounded on that hill.
unidentified
I wouldn't want to be burned alive on that hill.
alex jones
He is bad.
You know, the sheriff was going to go public because I talked to filmmakers that got the Academy nomination and won the big awards and then he died a day later.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's so drunk.
This is sad.
alex jones
They killed him because he was going to go public.
And I don't blame the Delta Force elite army unit for being there and blowing it up and burying it down and killing people that were following orders.
That sounds horrible, but just scapegoating them, what they did was wrong.
There's nothing compared to the orders they were given.
And I know the people involved in that were haunted by what they did.
And that's why a lot of things they've done later behind the scenes are trying to rectify that.
But that was all a psyop on the military to see if they could get them to turn against the American people.
jordan holmes
And also the media did a demonization campaign.
alex jones
It was meant to turn us against the military so then they would hate us and then they would get their fight.
Instead, we're going to love the military.
dan friesen
He is so drunk.
jordan holmes
That is ludicrous.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is just...
The most St. Louis of rappers.
dan friesen
What?
unidentified
Nelly?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't think Ludacris is from St. Louis.
jordan holmes
No, Ludacris is from Atlanta.
dan friesen
I think he has a great hit called Welcome to Atlanta.
That's where the players play.
jordan holmes
I know.
I said St. Louis and just went, no.
dan friesen
Do you know how St. Louis I am?
jordan holmes
How St. Louis are you?
dan friesen
You should ask my tattooist.
That's a great Murphy Lee quote.
One of the St. Lunatics.
God damn it, I love the St. Lunatics.
Anyway.
Look, the Branch Davidian Waco situation is incredibly complicated.
jordan holmes
How did they get on that?
dan friesen
Well, because...
jordan holmes
Just that weird reference from Rob Dew?
dan friesen
Rob Dew was talking about how they're demonizing Trump so they can take him down in the same way that the media demonized the Branch Davidians and talked about how he was fucking kids.
Which he was.
David Koresh was.
jordan holmes
Like how we're talking about Trump is guilty of sexual assault.
Like he is.
dan friesen
And like, let's be clear.
In the scale of cult leaders, David Koresh wasn't as bad as Jim Jones.
But he's in the conversation.
They're in the same conversation.
jordan holmes
Full disclosure, my parents were in a cult.
The cult leader?
He did jail time.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's not in the conversation.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That's how bad cults are.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just being a cult leader, probably going to do jail time, there are some seriously bad cult leaders.
dan friesen
I would say that almost any time there's a schism in a church and someone leads people off in another direction...
jordan holmes
Isn't it schism?
dan friesen
It's one or the other.
They're both accurate pronunciations.
But any time that happens and there is an offshoot of a church...
Generally, someone's up to something.
jordan holmes
Hey, if you're a dude and you're leading a cult, chances are you're doing it to have sex with people.
dan friesen
Anyway, we have two clips left.
This next one, if you had any doubt in your mind, which I don't think it's possible at this point, but if you had any doubt in your mind that Alex Jones has been drunk this entire time...
Cast that aside and listen to this.
Jordan, please do not interrupt this because it is stupid.
jordan holmes
Not going to say a word.
alex jones
There's three ways to learn, or maybe four, but you can learn through experience.
You can learn through education.
Or you can learn through revelation.
jordan holmes
I'd say through your DNA.
alex jones
I agree, DNA.
Yeah, exactly, race memory.
So there is always more, exactly.
Instincts, common sense.
So there's common sense.
There's learning.
Let's go over the ways you learn.
unidentified
Well, you have education, like you said.
jon bowne
You have...
alex jones
Experience.
unidentified
Experience.
alex jones
Revelation.
Which probably is the DNA.
jon bowne
You think that's what it is?
alex jones
Well, it's spiritual, but yeah, exactly.
That's why you know it.
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's insane.
unidentified
And you really learn by screwing up.
jordan holmes
That's how you learn.
jon bowne
That's one of the biggest ways.
alex jones
The best way is to learn.
So let me ask you this question.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, he doesn't ask him a question.
But I love that the best way is to learn.
jordan holmes
Is to learn.
dan friesen
For the last two minutes, he was talking about the different ways to learn.
unidentified
His summation of it is, the best way is to learn.
jordan holmes
Hey, look.
If you want to learn, let me tell you about the best way to do it.
Learning.
unidentified
Oh, God.
jordan holmes
At no point was books mentioned.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Reading.
jordan holmes
Nope.
Studying.
Nuh-uh.
dan friesen
The part about that is like...
jordan holmes
Listening?
Listening was not mentioned at all.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
Communicating with people?
Nope.
Sharing experiences?
Nuh-uh.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Trying to be empathic of others?
jordan holmes
No chance.
dan friesen
Just like that?
To me, it's an encapsulation of someone who won't leave my house.
Like, that is, it's three o 'clock, I want to go to bed, get the fuck out of my house.
Best way to learn is just, learn, learn.
unidentified
Let's recap.
I just said three ways to learn, and then you said a fourth, and I don't like it when you talked.
jordan holmes
So, how do you learn?
And then he immediately, Rob Dew was like, you know what?
DNA is probably one of those that you mentioned.
I'm not going to say that you got one wrong.
dan friesen
I'll be honest.
I think Revelation is DNA.
Race memory.
jordan holmes
Thanks.
Thanks, dude.
White race memory.
dan friesen
That's after them just talking about the Branch Davidians and shit.
It's like, what?
jordan holmes
What is fucking happening?
dan friesen
Wow.
So this last clip is Rob Dew accidentally kind of hitting the nail on the head of why I started this podcast.
Now, they're talking about the mainstream media.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Imagine what he's talking about, but about them.
jordan holmes
Can't imagine that.
dan friesen
And that will kind of clear up some of my motivations.
alex jones
Okay.
Every time we face real bonafide censorship, it's not just the listeners figure it out and spread the word, but it's like doors just fly open.
jordan holmes
It's the vibe.
unidentified
It just goes...
alex jones
And things start happening.
unidentified
Other people decide, you know what, I've got to step in.
That's usually how it happens.
rob dew
People get pushed so far, and at some point they go, I've had enough.
I mean, what's your line in the sand?
How many times has Alex asked that?
When are you going to go, I've had enough, I'm done, I'm going to start stepping forward instead of taking a step back?
alex jones
And being intimidated by MSM or some dweeby, First of all, that is a perfect encapsulation of why I started this.
dan friesen
I watched the election night on InfoWars and I saw them mocking everyone who was crying.
It was a room full of white dudes laughing at...
A very diverse crowd who realized, oh shit, our lives are in danger.
The things that keep us alive, Planned Parenthood, for the most basic example, immigration laws, that sort of stuff, all of the progress that we made is going to be rolled back and I am in danger.
They were crying legitimately in a room full of white dudes who were laughing, smoking cigars.
jordan holmes
They have been proven to be absolutely correct.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
All those tears were legitimate.
jordan holmes
How many times do you have to read a story about children being separated from their mother?
dan friesen
Once.
jordan holmes
Because she's been deported for nonsense.
For bullshit reasons.
dan friesen
Family is broken up.
jordan holmes
Because of spite.
That's really what it is.
It really comes down to...
dan friesen
Cruel technicalities.
jordan holmes
Cruelty.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And that was it.
That was it for me.
I watched that, and that was the moment that Rob Dude just described.
jordan holmes
When are you going to do something?
dan friesen
I've had enough.
That was the line.
That was absolutely the line.
And before that, I knew that Alex Jones was a liar.
I could have documented it before that, but it was fun to laugh at him.
jordan holmes
Do you know what the line for me was?
dan friesen
That night we went out drinking, and I was like, hey, let's do this podcast.
jordan holmes
You got it.
You asked me politely.
I would love to posit myself as some sort of holy crusader, but I didn't have this idea.
You did.
dan friesen
You're along for the ride.
jordan holmes
You're fucking kicking ass.
dan friesen
You're an essential piece of it, and I love you.
You're along for the ride.
Now, here is where Alex Jones, as we've mentioned, is fucking drunk, takes this to an anti-semantic direction.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
I say Nazis are horrible working with the Jewish mafia to kill Jews in World War II, George Soros.
It's like Pulitzer Prize books on it.
And so the Jewish newspaper, semi-Semitic, they're the ones discrediting themselves.
I feel sorry for them.
It's not like I have to sit there like, oh my God, don't call me a name.
They're the ones like who have dementia that are basically eating their own crap.
I mean, I don't even, you know, I don't take pleasure in the fact that they're doing it, but it just doesn't matter.
Infowars.com forward slash show.
Infowars.com forward slash show.
Spread that link to everybody you know.
dan friesen
What a piece of shit.
jordan holmes
Yes!
Thank you, Alex Jones.
dan friesen
What a piece of shit.
jordan holmes
What a pile of fucking garbage.
dan friesen
Now, just to get the taste out of our mouths.
alex jones
I am ready.
I am more than ready.
Let me say this right now.
Let me tell.
I'm not against gay people.
Okay?
I love them.
They're great folks.
But Schiff looks like the art type.
Archetypal cocksucker with those little deer-in-the-headlight eyes and all his stuff, and there's something about this fairy hopping around, bossing everybody around, trying to intimidate people like me and you.
I want to tell Congressman Schiff and all the rest of them, hey, listen, asshole, quit saying Roger and I, and I've never used cussing in 22 years, but the gloves are off.
Listen, you son of a bitch, what the fuck's your problem?
You want to sit here and say that I'm a goddamn fucking Russian?
You get in my face with that, I'll beat your goddamn ass, you son of a bitch.
You piece of shit.
You fucking goddamn fucker.
Listen, fuckhead, you have fucking crossed the line.
Get that through your goddamn fucking head.
Stop pushing your shit.
You're the people that have fucked this country over and gang raped the shit out of it and lost an election.
So stop shooting your mouth off claiming I'm the enemy.
You got that, you goddamn son of a bitch?
Fill your hand.
I'm sorry, but I'm done.
You start calling me a foreign agent, those are fucking fighting words.
jordan holmes
Excuse me.
dan friesen
The reason I wanted to play that again is because it's so fucking awesome.
jordan holmes
It's so fucking great.
dan friesen
But then, secondarily, I just want to illustrate, we've taken this ride throughout this entire episode, and we've gotten to the point where he's end-of-the-night drunk, and I wanted to remind people that he started as angry drunk.
jordan holmes
He started fucking morning drunk.
dan friesen
He's been drunk this entire time, but it's different stages of drunk.
unidentified
So, Alex, this is a textbook.
dan friesen
I hate to do this.
You busted.
jordan holmes
Don't!
dan friesen
You are an alcoholic, and we like to make fun of you, but I'd like to end this on actually a slightly sincere note.
unidentified
Get help.
dan friesen
We just said that at the same time because we mean it.
You have a severe problem.
jordan holmes
As do we, and that problem?
Empathy.
Because he is a monster, and yet somehow, somehow both of us are like, dude, you should really turn your life around.
dan friesen
Well, I think we recognize humanity, and maybe...
We've had issues with substances at various times.
I can speak for myself.
And I've known people who have had tremendous substance problems, and a lot of his behaviors kind of mirror a lot of theirs, but you just give that crazy person that you know who has a drug problem a nationally syndicated radio show.
jordan holmes
It's not good!
It's not good!
dan friesen
It's like this.
jordan holmes
No, and, you know, as, you know...
dan friesen
We've talked about this a bunch of times.
It's not really ethical to diagnose mental illness.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not, but there's definitely something going on.
dan friesen
No, but I think...
Based on the sound that we heard of him drinking, the fact that he's hiding a cup under his desk, his clearly drunk behavior, his drunk behavior at the inauguration, how wasted he was on Rogan's show, these are all indications to me that he has a very serious problem with alcohol.
And maybe some of these behaviors that we like to make fun of, and we should be making fun of.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
Some of them might have their root in a substance abuse problem.
jordan holmes
As much of a monster he is, I've done some shit that I absolutely regret.
dan friesen
Listen, I'm not saying we shouldn't be doing this.
jordan holmes
No, absolutely not.
dan friesen
I'm just trying to make this the fairest podcast possible about Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And if we are going to do that, we have to recognize...
That maybe he's not as bad of a person underneath that.
It's possible, but the only way for us to ever prove that is for him to get help.
And that's never going to happen.
jordan holmes
Interestingly enough, if we get him help, we have to end the podcast.
He's probably going to be fine.
He's probably going to be a good dude.
He's going to love trans people.
Wait, no.
He's a monster, and he's going to be a monster no matter what.
Never mind.
Fuck him!
dan friesen
But if he did get help, and he stopped doing his show...
That wouldn't ruin this show.
We can transition to Michael Savage.
Like, there's a hundred of these dudes.
jordan holmes
You're right.
You're right.
dan friesen
And they're all equally easy to, like, point out where they're lying.
jordan holmes
We're not gonna run out of fuckfaces.
dan friesen
Yeah, fucking asshole conservative.
Not even conservative.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That's not fair to conservatives.
unidentified
Although, usually, conservatives.
dan friesen
Crazy, right-wing fucks.
jordan holmes
Yup!
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex, please get help.
You deserve it.
Your family deserves it.
Apparently you have a fourth kid.
They deserve it.
jordan holmes
Let me ask you a question, Dan.
dan friesen
What's up?
jordan holmes
If you were looking to find us, where would you do so?
dan friesen
On the streets, bitch.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
That wasn't the prompt I was giving you, but that also seems fair enough.
dan friesen
Yeah.
At knowledgefight.com.
That's our website.
jordan holmes
You can also follow us at knowledgefight.com.
dan friesen
That's correct.
On Twitter?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Our DMs are open.
Bring it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Alex Jones, if you would like the impetus to get help, DM us.
dan friesen
Sure, we have some resources.
jordan holmes
We'll refer you to a good program.
I know some people who have a suicide hotline, and if Trump doesn't get impeached, you're going to be there real quick.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also, you can email us if you want at knowledgefight at gmail.com.
jordan holmes
You got it.
dan friesen
Did get an email recently from a listener who wants a signed wine bottle.
jordan holmes
No shit!
unidentified
Oh, I will sign the fuck out of that wine bottle.
dan friesen
If you guys would also like a wine bottle, I mean, you gotta pay for shipping.
I don't know how much that costs.
I'm really bad at this.
jordan holmes
You're bad at this.
dan friesen
But we have a bunch of empty wine bottles.
We'll send you one autographed.
Or we have these shirts that maybe if enough people want them, we can send them out.
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Also, Dan, you do a shit ton of work.
And if you guys want to support that NPR style or...
dan friesen
There's a link on knowledgefight.com.
You can check that out.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Thank you all so much.
Jordan, this has been delightful.
jordan holmes
It has been...
Delightful.
Let me ask you a question.
dan friesen
I'd love to answer this question.
jordan holmes
What are we?
dan friesen
I would say that we are dudes who are into policy.
jordan holmes
Play the clip.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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