Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on the March 6th episode of The Alex Jones Show, plus they discuss celebrity drop-ins from "lovable weirdo" Eddie Bravo and "potentially a Nazi" Jesse James. Topics discussed include: Are Gen. Flynn and Jeff Sessions the real victims? Is listening to Alex Jones unofficially required of servicemen? Does Alex think that random memes are "primary sources?" Can one be both a literal and metaphorical vampire?
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| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to The Knowledge Fight. | ||
| It's The Knowledge Fight. | ||
| It's The Knowledge Fight now? | ||
| Oops, accidentally changed titles of the podcast by misspeaking. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Already off to a blistering start, as is our want. | ||
| We are terrible at the opening. | ||
| I'm Dan. | ||
| I'm Jordan! | ||
| This is a podcast where we sit down and drink a little bit of wine and discuss Alex Jones, but... | ||
| Twist! | ||
| This is a chubby checker-level twist. | ||
| I watch tons of InfoWars and know a lot about Alex Jones. | ||
| And I don't know a goddamn thing about him. | ||
| And that's where we find our fun. | ||
| Guys, sorry we only had one episode last week, but, you know, realities of life happen. | ||
| And we didn't promise you shit. | ||
| You got very defensive very quickly. | ||
| Nobody would have even said anything. | ||
| Twist, I got defensive. | ||
| It's a good thing that we're finally getting an episode, and instead you're like, fuck you guys! | ||
| I think I'm projecting a little bit of anger at myself, not because we didn't get any episodes out last week other than Monday, but because I listened to the show, I listened to Alex Jones the entire week. | ||
| For what feels like nothing. | ||
| Yeah, it was a very fruitless quest for you. | ||
| That makes me very angry. | ||
| That's like if I had played Hours of Zelda and did not end up freeing an elephant. | ||
| Jesus, you are going to keep going about Zelda. | ||
| It's a great, I've heard nothing but positive reviews about it. | ||
| I don't have any Nintendo, so I don't get to play Breath of the Wild. | ||
| That is actually why we didn't record. | ||
| It really is. | ||
| It really is, isn't it? | ||
| Yeah, because I've been playing too much Zelda. | ||
| By the way, guys, it's a great game. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But that's not what this is about. | ||
| Stop buzz marketing. | ||
| They're not paying us. | ||
| This show is not a video game review show. | ||
| That would be a stark pivot really quick. | ||
| Yeah, that would be like Trump being a decent man all of a sudden. | ||
| That level of pivot. | ||
| Guys, we like to start things off. | ||
| We like to get warmed up. | ||
| So I have a couple of out-of-context clips of Alex Jones from the area of time we're covering is all of last week, March 6th through 10th. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But I reserve the right to go back to that time period more specifically later. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because the only reason... | ||
| It's basically Monday through Wednesday is what we're covering. | ||
| But we have to go to Friday in order... | ||
| Fuck this. | ||
| You are turning this into a very convoluted question. | ||
| Here's the big enchilada. | ||
| Jesus, now you're interrupting me with clips? | ||
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Man, Zelda has changed you. | |
| Anyway, sorry about that. | ||
| Here's the big enchilada. | ||
| That's our out-of-context drop. | ||
| That was it? | ||
| I've noticed... | ||
| I kept waiting for something. | ||
| No, see, here's the thing. | ||
| I've noticed that he is now obsessed with the expression, the big enchilada. | ||
| Has he been saying that a lot? | ||
| So much. | ||
| I could make a massive supercut of, like, the 30 times he says it over a couple days, but I just have a second. | ||
| That's not even the big enchilada. | ||
| Let me give you the big kahuna. | ||
| Now it's not even the big enchilada. | ||
| There's the big kahuna. | ||
| Those aren't related to each other in any way. | ||
| They're just both big. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Big kahuna. | ||
| Big enchilada. | ||
| That's a person. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Big enchilada is just delicious. | ||
| Might order an enchilada for dinner. | ||
| Have you considered whether or not the big kahuna is also delicious? | ||
| I imagine he is. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What is the big kahuna? | ||
| The big kahuna is like it's a Hawaiian thing. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| You lived in Hawaii for a while. | ||
| For a little bit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's just a cool dude, man. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| The big kahuna is the guy who's on top. | ||
| It's not like an official title or something like that? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| It's not like kinkamehameha or anything like that. | ||
| Or, you know, the humuhumunukunukuapua 'a. | ||
| That's the state fish. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| I just like saying it. | ||
| I can tell. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| You said it with relish. | ||
| So, Jordan. | ||
| All right, let's get to some clips. | ||
| We're going to start here on March 6th. | ||
| That's Monday, if you're nasty. | ||
| And what goes on on this episode is Alex is still in a holding pattern at this point. | ||
| Because he is still like, all this bad news is coming out about Russia, all of these things. | ||
| The news hasn't broken at this point that Flint... | ||
| General Flynn has... | ||
| Also been an agent for Turkey as well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just making that money. | ||
| Retroactively files... | ||
| Yeah, that's great. | ||
| Yeah, real bad. | ||
| But he still has to keep up his side of things. | ||
| So this clip is how he decides to start the show off. | ||
| And I would say it's ill-advised. | ||
| It's very dishonest. | ||
| And it also... | ||
| It's a good example of victim card playing when that is not appropriate at all. | ||
| Three weeks ago when General Flynn resigned, that he was basically told to resign, told that the president ordered him to resign. | ||
| He didn't even go in and ask the president, he just resigned. | ||
| He doesn't develop this in this clip, but this is something he talks about all the time, and he's basically hanging Reince Priebus out to dry. | ||
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Uh, I mean, not a bad idea. | |
| No, but that- You should be hanging just about everybody out to dry at this point. | ||
| Yeah, but Alex's narrative is Reince Priebus likes to go to people and tell them that they need to quit, and that the president has told them to quit. | ||
| And then they go and talk to Trump, and Trump's like, I didn't say that! | ||
| I don't think Trump... | ||
| I think the news is that Trump didn't tell Flynn to quit. | ||
| That Trump told him not to, and it was everybody else around him who was like... | ||
| Like, you gotta get the fuck out of here. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| It was like Pence and those guys being like, hey, Trump. | ||
| This is fucking insane. | ||
| Don't do this anymore. | ||
| This is beyond what we can absorb. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We're testing the limits, and this might be beyond the limits. | ||
| That seems like a more likely story than the story of Reince Priebus sneakily going around and trying to trick people into resigning. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| For what end? | ||
| To what end? | ||
| I think to become the president. | ||
| Reince Priebus. | ||
| Reince Priebus. | ||
| The 48th president of the United States inaugurated three months after we've gone through four presidents forced to impeach. | ||
| And then somehow we're going to be cool with him. | ||
| I mean, how many presidents in a row do you impeach before you're just like, nah, we're done with this whole America thing? | ||
| Well, here's the good news. | ||
| Impeachments are much easier as they go along. | ||
| You get used to it. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| It's like committing a burglary. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The first one is incredibly difficult, but by the time you're on to the fourth impeachment, you got it down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what you're doing. | ||
| You've streamlined the system. | ||
| Sure. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| You get him in, get him out. | ||
| Yeah, so I think that that's how we... | ||
| It'd take at least two months to impeach Trump. | ||
| We get through... | ||
| Uh, Pence in about a week and a half. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Then fucking Paul Ryan. | ||
| Paul Ryan's actually just assassinated by Congress. | ||
| Like, they just murder him on the floor. | ||
| Sure, sure, sure, sure. | ||
| Uh, who's next in line? | ||
| The President Potempoor? | ||
| I don't fucking know at that point. | ||
| That would be the oldest ranking Senate, uh, member. | ||
| So let's just go with, uh, the devil. | ||
| I'm assuming he's one of them at this point. | ||
| Wait, wait, hold on. | ||
| He was elected in Alabama. | ||
| We know that. | ||
| The next person in the order of succession isn't the oldest person. | ||
| No, the president pro tempore is the oldest. | ||
| Traditionally, they give it to the oldest member of the Senate. | ||
| Like, age oldest or longest tenure? | ||
| Age oldest. | ||
| Oh, that's a bad idea. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Well, that's why that fucking, what's his, Strom Thurmond was the fourth in line to become president for years. | ||
| It makes sense. | ||
| Strom Thurmond! | ||
| I always wondered why that was the case. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| It surely wasn't because he was a well-known social justice warrior. | ||
| Certainly not. | ||
| He's not out there with Rainbow Snatch having fun in the parks. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He's hating on the blacks. | ||
| So anyway, Flynn... | ||
| Yeah, thank God he's dead, by the way. | ||
| Amen. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So Flynn's got, you know, he got duped by Priebus. | ||
| You got Priebus-ed. | ||
| You're going to need to take the short previous to get to school from now on. | ||
| So then it gets more into how this exact same thing basically happened with Sessions, but didn't. | ||
| It's very weird, this narrative. | ||
| And the word I got Friday, before it even came out on Saturday, was that President Trump was absolutely infuriated, and it's now in the news, that he had not. | ||
| You don't need to, every day, every day, you don't need to put Trump is furious. | ||
| It's in the news every day. | ||
| Yeah, it's in the tweets, it's in the paper, it's in the white papers. | ||
| If you put it in the newspaper, you're just doing Dog Bites Man all over again. | ||
| Trump is always furious. | ||
| Trump is mad is taken as read. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's implied across the board. | ||
| Yeah, every story. | ||
| But when you were talking, you went over... | ||
| Yeah, sorry, I got very frustrated with his lies. | ||
| It's very stupid. | ||
| We're off to a great start. | ||
| Yeah, you know what? | ||
| We can't take weeks off in the future. | ||
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Our rhythm is slightly off, and I think we can both feel it. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| We're gonna get into the groove here. | ||
| This white wine is what's doing it. | ||
| We always drink red wine, or champagne, and I think this white wine is fucking us up. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Anyway, what he said there was that the reason that Trump was really mad is because Sessions didn't ask him about resigning, or recusing himself, which is... | ||
| Not the role of the Attorney General. | ||
| Isn't that, like, that's bad, ethically. | ||
| It would be bad. | ||
| It would be very bad if the Attorney General went to the President and was like, hey, this investigation into you, do you want me to recuse myself? | ||
| Yeah, that seems incredibly unethical. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that's what Alex wants, man. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So he's mad because he didn't get to consult on it, even though the Attorney General's office and the executive branch... | ||
| The president are separate entities. | ||
| Quote. | ||
| Unquote. | ||
| For now. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Until Trump declares himself also the attorney general. | ||
| At press time, that has not happened. | ||
| But it may. | ||
| Who knows? | ||
| I mean, we're recording over the weekend, right? | ||
| Monday could bring all kinds of new Trump is dictator for life. | ||
| All of these headlines, I can believe. | ||
| Yeah, anything is possible except for Alex telling the truth. | ||
| Ridiculous that the attorney general... | ||
| Jeff Sessions recused himself. | ||
| When he was very clear, he was asked about Russians talking to them as surrogates on the campaign trail. | ||
| Of course, he, as the ranking member of the Armed Services Committee in the Senate, spoke with the Russians twice that year. | ||
| Still on that lie. | ||
| So this is Running Scared, and Drudge has the headline, but we've been calling it since day one. | ||
| Dems smell blood in the water. | ||
| Comey turns on Trump. | ||
| Again, we agree that there's blood in the water. | ||
| Yeah, there is blood in the water. | ||
| Now, the most amazing thing about all of this is I went and pulled the reports yesterday and did a special live report at 1 o 'clock. | ||
| And a lot of you watched it. | ||
| We also aired excerpts of it on yesterday's Sunday show. | ||
| And I went and pulled up the articles from a month ago when they were all over the news saying wiretaps tracking the Trump organization And tracking phone calls out of Trump Tower recorded General Flynn talking to the Russian ambassador. | ||
| They went, oh, it's so dirty, it's so bad. | ||
| When he admittedly was setting up the phone calls to the ambassador for a call with the president and Putin, that's what presidents do. | ||
| Exactly zero of that happened. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| Zero of that happened. | ||
| And the stuff that is... | ||
| Not even one of the things that he said. | ||
| I don't even think the word the in that sentence was accurate. | ||
| It's a disgrace to the definite article. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But it's like the parts of it that are kind of accurate are misrepresented. | ||
| Well, they didn't wiretap Trump. | ||
| No. | ||
| We already got distracted from getting Sessions away by just Trump lying and everybody being like, well, where's the evidence? | ||
| Of course there's no goddamn evidence! | ||
| Yeah, it's a distraction tactic. | ||
| It's another lie! | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Just ignore it! | ||
| Look at this over here! | ||
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Look at this over here! | |
| Yeah! | ||
| He's jangling keys in front of the press and they're like, oh, they're shiny! | ||
| That's what he's doing. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Everybody's babies now. | ||
| Yeah, we all babies up in this. | ||
| Let me suck that titty. | ||
| We babies! | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| That white wine is destroying you. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| I think where we're getting off track here is that I'm being too playful. | ||
| I think this white wine is bringing out an unnecessary playfulness that is out of my knowledge fight character. | ||
| I think you're just really... | ||
| Struggling to divorce yourself from the Zelda world? | ||
| There is a part of that. | ||
| Like, you're still wandering about it in your brain, like, oh look, that's beautiful, I saved an elephant! | ||
| That elephant is really cool. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Anyway, yeah, everything is bullshit. | ||
| Everything is fake in what he's saying. | ||
| He's going to make some other false equivalences about this exact same stuff later, but one of the things he doesn't understand is what he's talking about, basically. | ||
| Which sounds like... | ||
| Alex Jones, colon, doesn't understand what he's talking about. | ||
| The movie. | ||
| That's the headline. | ||
| But he says these things like, Flynn was taking calls to set up meetings for Trump to talk to them theoretically about sanctions, but the media twists it and says that they were talking about sanctions. | ||
| The reports from intelligence communities have been like... | ||
| He was straight talking about sanctions. | ||
| Well, and even then, the wiretap that they're talking about is loosely... | ||
| I think their basis for the story is that there was a server that was connected to Trump. | ||
| And it connected to the Alpha Bank. | ||
| Yeah, and it connected to the Alpha Bank, and that was 80% of its traffic just going back and forth there. | ||
| And every time they're like, oh, he's probably spam email experts are like... | ||
| There's not a chance. | ||
| It's specifically set up to be secret. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| It's a private server used for illicit business. | ||
| The one reason that we don't have Hillary Clinton as the president is because it took three weeks into Trump's goddamn presidency to find this bullshit. | ||
| Jordan, let me speculate something. | ||
| Let's speculate. | ||
| What if? | ||
| What if? | ||
| They just have really good spam emails. | ||
| So that's why he had to set up a separate server connected to them, doing tons of traffic, because it's awesome. | ||
| What's a really good spam email? | ||
| Spam dank memes. | ||
| It's just tons of cool memes that the bank is sending Trump through his personal server. | ||
| That bank that is giving him a lot of money and he's owing and great deals and so on and so forth. | ||
| Okay, good point. | ||
| It's memes. | ||
| Good point. | ||
| Sweet memes. | ||
| Sweet-ass memes. | ||
| But yeah, the other thing is that Alex conflates the wiretap stuff with what Trump... | ||
| Asserted. | ||
| And that is that Obama did this. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that is not true at all. | ||
| Even in the loosest sense. | ||
| An insane... | ||
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Hold on. | |
| But that's why I think right-thinking people are upset. | ||
| It's not that people think like, oh, Trump's lying about being wiretapped. | ||
| We're all just used to that now. | ||
| But there is some kernel of people were looking into stuff. | ||
| For good reason. | ||
| Yes, people were... | ||
| A court... | ||
| Said it's a good idea. | ||
| People were investigating him for shit. | ||
| The shit that he did. | ||
| So when he says, people were wiretapping me, no one really is saying that that's insane. | ||
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Right. | |
| They think it's insane and wildly inappropriate that he's like, Obama did it! | ||
| Right. | ||
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That's the part that people are fucking pissed about. | |
| That's the thing about that is that... | ||
| They have turned Obama into such a boogeyman that now you can basically, to the right, of course, because they're fucking done as human beings. | ||
| They're done. | ||
| They've checked out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can just say Obama did anything and they'll be like, yeah, I believe that shit. | ||
| And of course Trump would say it because that's the type of thinking Trump has. | ||
| In Trump's mind, if somebody was challenging him for the presidency... | ||
| He would be like, well, of course you wiretap them. | ||
| Of course I would sabotage them. | ||
| How else are you going to get them? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You've got to wiretap them. | ||
| It's cutthroat business world shit. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| So to him, it makes perfect sense. | ||
| I genuinely think he believes that utter and complete bullshit. | ||
| Because he read it on Breitbart. | ||
| Yeah, well. | ||
| Which is another problem that will come up. | ||
| But back to the clip. | ||
| But they were all over the news saying they had the transcript. | ||
| The New York Times had it. | ||
| Obama. | ||
| Again, he's implying that the transcripts are released and they aren't. | ||
| They are not. | ||
| Last week, before all this latest wiretapping broke, before Trump stood up against it, said they gave it to the New York Times that they, quote, protected the intelligence so that Trump couldn't get rid of it. | ||
| Oh, we committed a crime so Trump couldn't get rid of it. | ||
| Here he's implying that they gave the information to the media to protect it, and what actually happened was that... | ||
| They disseminated it through government agencies, right? | ||
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Yes. | |
| And lowered the classification as much as possible so as many people could see it. | ||
| And made it so that various intelligence agencies could share information. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That was what the executive order that Obama signed did. | ||
| The information that proved that Trump was committing treason all over the place. | ||
| Our president's a traitor, right? | ||
| Have we all just agreed on that yet? | ||
| Well, I mean, even if you... | ||
| Which, by extension, means that the entire GOP Congress is traitors. | ||
| They're at least beating and abetting a traitor. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Hang them all. | ||
| If you want to take a step back and not say something that inflammatory, you can just take the instance of the Chinese granting... | ||
| The trademark is insane. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's by definition. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| One sentence of the Constitution says, don't do that. | ||
| It might as well have been in parentheses Thomas Jefferson in the margin saying, by the way, we can see the future and this is Donald Trump. | ||
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Yeah, like it's a fucking Simpsons episode. | |
| Yeah, it is 100% what he did. | ||
| And nobody is fucking, all of the Second Amendment bullshit of like, oh, you gotta protect the Constitution goes out the fucking window when it's goddamn Trump the traitor. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Ooh, I just did our first dirty dossier, I think. | ||
| Trump traitor? | ||
| Trump traitor. | ||
| Traitor Trump! | ||
| That's where I get my groceries. | ||
| Goddamn it, you got there first, you son of a bitch! | ||
| And then they have Brennan and Clapper and all the usual suspects. | ||
| On TV, on the Sunday shows yesterday, saying Trump's crazy. | ||
| They use words like preposterous. | ||
| They use words like reckless, just bizarre, that Trump says his transition team was under surveillance and, of course, nothing was found. | ||
| Where do you think President Trump got that? | ||
| Breitbart. | ||
| Yeah, it certainly wasn't for him. | ||
| Type it in. | ||
| The House head of the Intelligence Board Committee, Nunes, said we've been reviewing the evidence for a month. | ||
| There's nothing there, not even phone calls. | ||
| Until General Flynn is in there supposedly for the President as the National Security Advisor lining up his phone calls with world leaders. | ||
| Flynn is known to work 18 hours a day. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Everybody else stands around with their thumbs in their rear ends. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| I forgive you. | ||
| This has just become unbelievable. | ||
| So, like, this clip looks really bad a week later. | ||
| It looked bad then, but it looks real bad now. | ||
| You know the thing that really frustrates me about the whole wiretap bullshit is that Trump, as president, could just declassify the evidence that he was being wiretapped. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Instantly. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which, if there was evidence... | ||
| That's a total Trump move, right? | ||
| He just declassifies it. | ||
| Somebody's told him, hey, you can declassify this. | ||
| These people will be under... | ||
| It will prove a massive conspiracy against you. | ||
| Yeah, and that's something that you should do. | ||
| It would show that the globalists are moving against you. | ||
| And frankly, I would do that if I were Trump. | ||
| I would be like, look, there's this massive conspiracy! | ||
| Were that true, I would support him doing that. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| It's the only thing that makes sense. | ||
| It's almost like if there was some sort of shadowy agency infiltrating the government, we would want to get rid of it. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Even if it wasn't from Russia. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| There was that great question in one of Spicer's press conferences where a lady asked, so if Trump has the proof, why is he asking Congress to investigate this? | ||
| Couldn't he just provide the proof? | ||
| And there was no answer to that question. | ||
| No, of course not. | ||
| He's like, I think he's asking that people go through investigation. | ||
| Yeah, nothing. | ||
| Just scatting. | ||
| Sean Spicer is a weasel of the highest order. | ||
| Yeah, that clip from his press conference at the end of the week when he was talking, someone asked him about the jobs report. | ||
| And how Trump in the past had said those were fake. | ||
| They're definitely not fake this time. | ||
| We're all lying. | ||
| It's just a big laugh. | ||
| Like, that's terrifying. | ||
| From the press corps. | ||
| Because it's like they're in one big room where everybody knows everybody's lying to each other. | ||
| And everybody's just like, there's nothing we can do. | ||
| And it's almost like a... | ||
| Although it is kind of funny. | ||
| Like, to actually be... | ||
| It is pretty funny that he's just caught in a bald-faced lie and he just doubles down. | ||
| He's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. | ||
| Yeah, we lied about him last time, but this time we didn't. | ||
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Ha! | |
| Ha ha ha ha. | ||
| It's such a knowing, like, we're fucking you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we're not even bothering to lie about it anymore. | ||
| It is out of, like, almost bad sitcom-y kind of writing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's that level of performance. | ||
| He might as well have cackled like a witch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nah, that would be too on the nose. | ||
| He's not the witch type. | ||
| He's the bumbling henchman type. | ||
| Fair enough. | ||
| So Alex goes on to cite a study about attention spans and how everyone in the world is stupid, and then tells some more lies about General Flynn. | ||
| Do you think he gets distracted halfway through the attention span information? | ||
| Maybe three quarters. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| Well, that's not too bad. | ||
| Not too bad, because he's not like us. | ||
| He's not lemming. | ||
| He's not a dumb... | ||
| Dumb, piece of shit, low-information liberal. | ||
| Oh, goddammit, I hate it when we are those. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| For those of us that actually pay attention, for those of us that actually know the narrative, the real narrative, and know what really goes on in government, and knows what was really said, and who have memories. | ||
| Remember what Gruber said, John Gruber? | ||
| He said, thank God the American people have low attention spans and are so stupid and are low-information voters. | ||
| Those are quotes. | ||
| I don't have a seven-second... | ||
| Attention span. | ||
| They've got studies out where children now have less of an attention span than goldfish. | ||
| Neither of those things are true. | ||
| Goldfish famously have a five-second memory span, except that's a lie. | ||
| They don't. | ||
| That's stupid. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's sort of junk science a little bit. | ||
| It's made-up fantasy world. | ||
| But Alex is actually kind of fair in this... | ||
| Sighting of this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The study. | ||
| I looked into it, and it turns out that the goldfish, I think it's actually like seven seconds is what they say their attention span is. | ||
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No. | |
| But I don't... | ||
| Look, who cares? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The truth is that they did some studies on children, and the attention span used to be like 12 seconds, and it's gone down to eight since the advent of handheld phones. | ||
| That you can use the internet on, stuff like that. | ||
| Technology has made attention spans go down. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| But the same study cited that a byproduct of this also is that our ability to multitask has gone up dramatically. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So there is a trade-off kind of, and it's kind of what you have to do. | ||
| When you're being bombarded by obvious bullshit all the time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Celebrity culture stuff. | ||
| Lies from Alex Jones. | ||
| These sorts of things. | ||
| You have to not pay attention to things for very long because you're like, okay, no, get that out of here. | ||
| Get that out of here. | ||
| Move on to the next thing that grabs your attention. | ||
| So that is kind of just the neuroflexibility of humans. | ||
| In the meantime, because we move on from things really quick, we're able to juggle more balls. | ||
| I think that's a fair trade-off. | ||
| In terms of our brains. | ||
| You know, I have no idea whether or not there's a valuable conclusion to draw from any of that. | ||
| Certainly not related to the mainstream media. | ||
| Yeah, there's no explanation for what's going on there. | ||
| Further, I don't think it would be possible that anyone could have planned that, alright, we're going to get these smartphones out and it's going to take 33% Or 25% off people's attention spans. | ||
| You mean you don't think anybody could have planned that? | ||
| What about somebody in the 12th fucking dimension? | ||
| Did you consider that? | ||
| I didn't, yeah. | ||
| They're outside of time. | ||
| It's demons, you're right. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| They're doing it all simultaneously. | ||
| I always forget about the dimensions. | ||
| You gotta remember the dimensions. | ||
| If their TV hits. | ||
| Volume. | ||
| It's hypotenuses. | ||
| So, you have to understand, they're targeting the listeners and viewers of MSM that literally... | ||
| Do not believe or remember that a month ago, it was on every TV channel, every news channel, every newspaper, everywhere, that they had surveilled Trump, and ooh, Flynn lied. | ||
| He talked about sanctions with the Russian ambassador. | ||
| And then they finally released the transcript of the New York Times, and it was... | ||
| Well, I can't talk about those with you, but I'm sure you know the president wants to have a reset, so... | ||
| I'm sure you can bring that up when President Putin and President Trump speak. | ||
| That's not discussing sanctions. | ||
| Did you discuss the sanctions? | ||
| No. | ||
| Did you line up a discussion about them? | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| See, they play these games. | ||
| But in real government, in the military, at those levels, and in law, they train everybody to answer exactly as they're asked because they don't want a bunch of obfuscation. | ||
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Which is why Flynn got into trouble in the first place. | |
| He answered exactly as he wasn't asked. | ||
| No, you mean Sessions. | ||
| Sessions, that's right. | ||
| Yeah, that's what he's getting at there at the end there. | ||
| Al Franken had this really specific question. | ||
| Did you or anybody have contact with the Russians? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which was not what he asked. | ||
| No. | ||
| We've been over this a hundred times. | ||
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Right. | |
| Alex Jones doesn't understand quotes. | ||
| He doesn't understand... | ||
| He doesn't understand hand quotes, air quotes. | ||
| It's so fucking frustrating. | ||
| Auto quotes, insurance quotes, none of it. | ||
| One of the reasons I kept this in, even though he just said basically the same thing in our last clip, is because I wanted to illustrate a little bit the repetitiveness. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And how he just says the same things over and over again that aren't true. | ||
| Until they become true. | ||
| They become true to your mind if you're not paying attention. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because it's just like, oh yeah, I guess, you know. | ||
| Flynn did get set up. | ||
| I guess Sessions was asked a lawyerly question. | ||
| And he wasn't. | ||
| Not even close. | ||
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Sessions answered a question he wasn't asked and answered it poorly. | |
| Because he was nervous, because he was lying, because he is colluding with Russia. | ||
| I would be terrified. | ||
| To break down American democracy. | ||
| I would be terrified if I was in front of the Senate and I was up to some shit. | ||
| Yeah, which again is another reason to respect Hillary all the more because she lied for like 12 straight hours. | ||
| That is endurance that Trump thought she did not have. | ||
| Oh man, I don't think any of us thought she had that level of endurance. | ||
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No way. | |
| She was fucking stone cold. | ||
| Benghazi! | ||
| Yeah, great. | ||
| Investigate it! | ||
| Servers! | ||
| Emails! | ||
| Man, it's so great. | ||
| Although now we're doing the same Obama shit. | ||
| It's time to just move on from Hillary. | ||
| We just gotta let that go. | ||
| Totally. | ||
| Although, I will say that Hillary did wiretap this podcast. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| I think we have a lot of evidence that this has occurred. | ||
| Hey, if someone is from the NSA or anybody is listening in, could you edit these episodes for me? | ||
| I need to play more Zelda, and quite frankly, it's cutting into my schedule. | ||
| Also, do you guys think we're funny? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If you're in the NSA, email knowledgefight at gmail.com. | ||
| Do you like us? | ||
| Check yes or no. | ||
| Letters to the NSA. | ||
| Okay, this next clip. | ||
| Alex, this is the first of two instances where he sort of gets into talking to Trump on the phone. | ||
| And again, he says a little bit more than he probably should. | ||
| But then at the end of this, he gets into, again, his inability to understand nuance and the differences between different kinds of meetings that politicians can have. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's incredibly embarrassing, but the part about the calls is hot stuff. | ||
| I'm always speaking to those that may not know they're new listeners. | ||
| So that's kind of annoying to regular listeners, but we've got to keep reaching out to just, you know, the new folks that tune in. | ||
| You don't have to believe a word I've said here. | ||
| You can go back, if you don't have a memory, and look up where they said that they had all these communications out of Trump Tower. | ||
| That's really good advice for, like, the guy in Momento. | ||
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If you don't have a memory, go back and check the news. | |
| God, what a great movie that would be if the internet was around. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Oh yeah, if he had a fucking cell phone? | ||
| Just memos instead of tattoos? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Come on, man. | ||
| Technology helps everybody. | ||
| Yeah, they're really lucky they made that movie at a specific time in history. | ||
| Great movie, though. | ||
| I like it. | ||
| It was a bluff. | ||
| There wasn't anything there. | ||
| It was so thin, it was like vapor. | ||
| Okay, yeah, they lined up phone calls for the incoming president with foreign leaders. | ||
| He talked to the British Prime Minister, the Italian President, the German President, hundreds of world leaders. | ||
| Hell, when I talked to Trump, three days after he was elected president, he said, Alex, you're like number whatever, I forget the number, because I've been talking to world leaders and royalty and business leaders all day, but you're on the list because your listeners are so awesome. | ||
| Thank them for their support in this big win, and we're not going to let them down, let them know that. | ||
| Oh, I don't know if that's true or not. | ||
| It seems plausible based on what we know, and yet at the same time, it seems equally as plausible that he just decided to make that up whole time. | ||
| Here's the tension. | ||
| It is plausible. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| But then on the other hand, we also know that Alex is a liar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So it's like, oh no, what do we do? | ||
| The push and pull of reality when listening to Alex Jones. | ||
| Yeah, so what I do is I just toss the ball up in the air. | ||
| I just punt on it, you know? | ||
| I don't give a shit. | ||
| That call may or may not have happened. | ||
| It's not as important as what Alex says his response to that is. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So he says that Trump called and he's like, I wanted to call you, calling royalty. | ||
| But I had to call you because your listeners are awesome. | ||
| So there's that. | ||
| That's so silly! | ||
| It's absurd. | ||
| But then here is what Alex's response to that very nice call, I would say. | ||
| If it did happen, that's a really nice call. | ||
| That is really nice. | ||
| It's misguided as fuck. | ||
| It's a dumb call. | ||
| I would have preferred, if it were me and I were a propagandist, I would have preferred a letter with the presidential letterhead, right? | ||
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Proof. | |
| Yeah, you could put that on your wall. | ||
| Tell your grandkids about it whenever they're, you know, have gills and we can all swim in the water. | ||
| Swim up waterfalls. | ||
| Yeah, good times, God damn you. | ||
| So, what's great, though, is we're saying that he should send a letter because then there's proof. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Good news is... | ||
| There's probably proof. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Because I think that call was recorded. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| It has to be! | ||
| It would have to be, yeah! | ||
| It's part of the presidential record. | ||
| Exactly! | ||
| Yeah, so unless you're on the phone with Russia, everything is recorded. | ||
| Everything is recorded. | ||
| So here's Alex's response. | ||
| Or unless you're deleting typos on fucking Twitter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And I'm like, sir, they are going to come after you. | ||
| They're never going to stop. | ||
| I know you think you're going to give folks prosperity and do this, but you've got to go after them. | ||
| You've got to get on the offense because they're going to come after you. | ||
| Didn't even say, like, how are you doing? | ||
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Nope. | |
| Not a thank you? | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| They're coming for you, sir. | ||
| They're going to eat your bones. | ||
| What's great about it is we know he's talking about the globalists. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| But what's super fun is because he's clunky with language, it kind of makes it sound like his listeners are going to come for it. | ||
| Because of pronoun reference? | ||
| We've got to teach him how to diagram a sentence. | ||
| I'm not going to get into our private conversation about that, but let's just say the president knew that. | ||
| But he's trying to take the ultra-high road. | ||
| Yes! | ||
| The president! | ||
| And he just wants to turn the economy back on. | ||
| Taking the high road. | ||
| And that's why he should leave Obamacare there for a year and let the Democrats get the blame for it. | ||
| That's the Trump I know! | ||
| And the $5,000 fines and the rest of it. | ||
| But he doesn't want to hurt small businesses and the average person. | ||
| So he's just like a stalwart doing the real deal. | ||
| So that's actually just Alex literally verbatim dropping Trump talking points. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, the idea that he could sit back and watch Obamacare implode, but he doesn't want to do that to people, is directly out of Trump's mouth. | ||
| He did say that, yeah. | ||
| That's just him, like... | ||
| And the weirdest thing to me, listening to this, is that I have seen, like, absolutely zero steps towards even pretending to make the middle class's life better. | ||
| None. | ||
| No small businesses are improved. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| There's zero positive things that he's done for the very people Alex Jones is insisting are the only people he cares about. | ||
| If you listen to Alex, he does cite ad nauseum that the stock market is going up. | ||
| That doesn't help middle class or poor people. | ||
| Fuck all. | ||
| No, his argument is it does, not because you don't have stocks, but all those stocks are businesses that are able to employ people. | ||
| If the stock market goes up, those businesses are doing better. | ||
| That helps the common man through a trickle-down kind of system. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| But then he's also... | ||
| I'm sorry! | ||
| Every time somebody says trickle-down, I just start... | ||
| I have a stroke. | ||
| Like, I start barking, I just see flames. | ||
| I don't think that's the last time you're going to bark in this episode. | ||
| My dad has told me about trickle-down economics since I was six, and he's been dumb the entire... | ||
| Even when I was six, I was like, won't they just keep the money? | ||
| And he was like, shut up, boy! | ||
| You know that they would because history, number one. | ||
| You ever hear about it? | ||
| Because that's what you would do, probably. | ||
| I know I'd wiretap Obama, that's for damn sure. | ||
| I've had a couple times bank errors end up accidentally giving me 20 extra bucks. | ||
| I keep that shit. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| They don't need it. | ||
| I need 20 bucks. | ||
| Along those same lines, that's what businesses would do. | ||
| Okay, so the other thing is that he constantly talks about the Small Business Confidence Index and stuff like that, and people are more optimistic than ever before. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I don't know about that. | ||
| I literally don't know about it. | ||
| Yeah, we all live in our own little liberal bubbles, but I'm trying to read all the conservative news that I can, and even they are not... | ||
| Optimistic. | ||
| Well, that's smart conservative news that's also controlled by the globalists. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's what you're failing to recognize. | ||
| Is Breitbart really optimistic? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Super optimistic. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yeah, super optimistic. | ||
| About what? | ||
| Breitbart? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because they're doing a lot better, I'm assuming. | ||
| Our stock is going up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, here we go. | ||
| Let's get back into this. | ||
| We're going to get to the point here where he talks about these meetings that are... | ||
| He just doesn't understand the difference between... | ||
| Like, we talked about with... | ||
| People having public and private meetings. | ||
| He just doesn't understand that at all. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I study everything going on. | ||
| Morning, noon, and night. | ||
| And Trump is so good, so honorable, it makes me sick to my stomach to see him being rejected by so many dumbed-down people that aren't even part of the power structure. | ||
| And then I look at the power structure against him, a bunch of addled, doddering weirdos like Schumer and Pelosi and Maxine Waters that don't know what planet they're on. | ||
| Well, you know, it is... | ||
| It is one of those things that, by repetition, he's created a fixed point. | ||
| So we can always go back to that area. | ||
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That's what you're talking about, waypoints. | |
| Yeah, and if he starts... | ||
| Oh, boy, are you getting into Zelda again? | ||
| No, no, we talked about this before on the show. | ||
| Oh, did we? | ||
| That's the term we used. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But if he does bring in actual evidence that, you know, new stuff, he's got to start that all over again. | ||
| Well, he's got to get into the weeds. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's got to start all over again, and then that kind of, like, Pavlovian response of, like, yeah, liberals are dumb, has to take forever to rebuild itself. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| It is shorthand and cheap. | ||
| It's really stupid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very bad. | ||
| You know, it's hack, but it's effective, clearly. | ||
| At this point, I would like to tease what's coming up at the end of this episode. | ||
| We have a return of Eddie Bravo at the end of this episode. | ||
| So get excited for that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anyway, here we go. | ||
| EB. | ||
| And they're like, we never have met with a Russian ambassador. | ||
| And there's just photo after photo of Schumer and Pelosi. | ||
| And all of them meeting with him at public dinners and public events and on their schedule meeting with him three, four, five times, depending on who it is, than they did with Sessions apiece. | ||
| Because that's who you meet with when you're at the top of the Democratic Party or the top of the Republican Party. | ||
| That's what goes on. | ||
| You meet with the Japanese. | ||
| You meet with the Chinese. | ||
| You meet with the South Africans. | ||
| You meet with the Brazilians. | ||
| You meet with the Mexicans. | ||
| You meet with any big, strong, rich, powerful country. | ||
| People can say, oh, well, Brazil or Mexico aren't powerful. | ||
| Yeah, they are. | ||
| Their people aren't. | ||
| Their elites are super rich, some of the most powerful in the world. | ||
| The point is that there's constant meetings going on around the clock, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Yes, there are. | ||
| I don't dispute that at all. | ||
| People meet with heads of state. | ||
| In official capacities. | ||
| I do think that he... | ||
| I mean, I'm not sure if he understands the difference in a purposeful way or just that he can't understand the difference. | ||
| Because to him, it seems like a meeting's a meeting. | ||
| And whatever on the record, off the record you're doing, it's still a meeting, so it doesn't matter. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that kind of... | ||
| I mean... | ||
| If he were to say, you know what, I bet other people have had off-the-record meetings with him before, I would actually be inclined to believe him. | ||
| It wouldn't surprise me if Schumer or Pelosi did have off-the-record meetings. | ||
| That wouldn't be the craziest thing ever. | ||
| No. | ||
| But the reason he can't say that is because then... | ||
| Fuck! | ||
| I've got to do some investigative journalism and I can't do it. | ||
| Well, but even then... | ||
| He would have to try and actually prove a point. | ||
| And if he did say that, though, then he would be purposefully lying about not knowing the difference between the different types of meetings there. | ||
| So if he says, you know, it's illicit that Schumer did these meetings off the record, that also means it's illicit that Flynn did these meetings off the record. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he can't do that. | ||
| That's a really good point, too. | ||
| He's painted into that corner there. | ||
| He has to... | ||
| He has to not understand those things. | ||
| Oh man, that's fascinating. | ||
| And even if he did understand it, he has to not understand it in order to protect his guy. | ||
| The only way to be safe is being really dumb. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Oh shit. | ||
| Ignorance is safety. | ||
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Oh shit. | |
| Ignorance is avoiding jail time. | ||
| So at this point, I believe, if I'm not mistaken, I think that where we go next is a clip after... | ||
| These, Vault 7 has come out. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The CIA data dump on WikiLeaks. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Alex, when this happens, he just becomes a new man. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Like, you know how when he lost the Google ads? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Lost his mind, screaming. | ||
| He went nuts. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He became a totally different person in a petty, money-grubbing... | ||
| In a televangelist kind of way. | ||
| When this Vault 7 stuff comes out, he is like, a weight is lifted from his shoulders, and he believes that he's been proven right about everything throughout his entire life. | ||
| Everything that he's said on air is totally true, and that means that everything he's going to say is going to be true, and he has proof that he tells the truth. | ||
| And he gets into this. | ||
| That's like a cult leader getting the apocalypse right for once. | ||
| Like, can you imagine the look on his face? | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| This was real? | ||
| I was just trying to fuck 12-year-olds! | ||
| God damn it! | ||
| Yeah, there's a little bit of that. | ||
| That's a pitch for a TV show, isn't it? | ||
| The cult leader who's accidentally always right. | ||
| Accidental cult leader? | ||
| I'm into it. | ||
| I'm into it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So this clip, Alex tells a little bit... | ||
| of the story of his past. | ||
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Ooh! | |
| I've always wanted to know more about his past. | ||
| That's why this is an intriguing clip. | ||
| Other than his interactions with Nazi police officers. | ||
| Yeah, that part was, that's not a good chapter. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| This chapter is about him as a broadcaster, and I don't think it's true. | ||
| I really, really, really don't think it's true. | ||
| I can't stress enough, I don't think that this is true. | ||
| So get ready for that. | ||
| you know, bullshit caps on. | ||
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All right, I think it's time to go ahead and announce some things here on air to show that the globalists and their minions understand exactly what they're facing. | |
| Also, I just realized, I think we're technically, in his eyes, globalist minions. | ||
| I think we are. | ||
| I mean, yeah. | ||
| I don't like being called a minion. | ||
| No. | ||
| I would accept henchmen. | ||
| I would like to do voiceover for that movie. | ||
| That would be pretty good. | ||
| Yeah, get me in that. | ||
| Get me in that Minions 4. Globalist Minions. | ||
| I just think that because we're his enemy, philosophically and ideologically, we would obviously clearly have to be in the employ of the globalists. | ||
| I think that is the only way, that's the only conclusion he would draw. | ||
| I can't speak for you. | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| You're not? | ||
| I'm not. | ||
| That's the reason that they got me. | ||
| I'm here to watch you. | ||
| I'm a globalist minion that's keeping an eye on you, making sure you don't go native. | ||
| You're the one studying all this shit. | ||
| What if it gets to you? | ||
| What if you go full-on apocalypse now on us? | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| Do some Colonel Kurt shit. | ||
| I can assure you that I've gone this far down the path. | ||
| I'm pretty safe. | ||
| I don't think there's any turn that's going to happen. | ||
| I'll get a missive out to Soros. | ||
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Okay. | |
| I'll hide it under a bench in a park. | ||
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Tell old Georgie boy I say hi. | |
| Oh. | ||
| Globalist forces, dysfunctional saboteur types that want to bring this country down, that want to enslave humanity and be social engineers. | ||
| You have been undermined for decades, and the patriots inside our government and others have been quietly preparing for your absolute and complete defeat. | ||
| Not your overthrow, but your legitimate defeat. | ||
| Because you can't overthrow something that's illegitimate. | ||
| You're just being removed. | ||
| That's not how words work. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| A lot of people are freaking out right now because they know this is the broadcast that told you they have kill switches and remote control in all the airplanes for at least 25 years. | ||
| All the modern airplanes. | ||
| We're the ones that told you they can remote control your car right off a bridge and gave you the documents. | ||
| We're the ones that told you over 20 years ago that television sets were watching and listening to you. | ||
| We told you they could switch on the microphone in your regular landline, not just your smartphone. | ||
| But everyone, they weren't the only ones saying that shit. | ||
| I mean, George Orwell said that shit. | ||
| Yeah, granted, he is right that he has been saying a lot of that stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think even he's surprised that he was right. | ||
| If you take out all of the stuff that he's said that has not come true, that was paranoid bullshit, and only cherry-pick these examples... | ||
| Of when being paranoid... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you're paranoid about everything, you're gonna be right a couple times. | ||
| Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not always watching you. | ||
| You know, that kind of thing. | ||
| And these instances are things that were public. | ||
| Like, a lot of these things were public. | ||
| It's not that he... | ||
| Describe what things were public. | ||
| Well, the fact that people could hack into your computer and see you through your camera. | ||
| Hack into your car, like that whole thing. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Those things are things that people who study technology have been aware of and had been warning about. | ||
| That's not like Alex Jones cracked the case or anything like that. | ||
| And I don't think he would even say necessarily that he did. | ||
| Bullshit! | ||
| Maybe he would. | ||
| He would totally say that he did. | ||
| He would say that the tech people only thought about looking for it because he told them, because he had the globalist information. | ||
| The tech people were globalist minions until he woke them with his knowledge. | ||
| I red-pilled him. | ||
| Or he might just say that. | ||
| This stuff is really hard for us to deal with, I believe. | ||
| Because it is a point where I know you well enough to know that we're in agreement about this. | ||
| A lot of that stuff about technology is pretty scary. | ||
| It's very scary. | ||
| A lot of the stuff that they can do with technology is really, really scary. | ||
| It's bad. | ||
| So when Alex is talking against these things and the ability to hack into computers and stuff like that, philosophically, we agree. | ||
| That's bad. | ||
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It could be abused terribly. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| By some sort of autocratic president who wants to be a dictator. | ||
| Yeah, who has a slipping grip on power and might want to flex something. | ||
| Yeah, he might want to maintain that grip on power, so all of a sudden we might see... | ||
| That would be really fascinating if all of a sudden we start seeing these leaks on every politician that disagrees with him. | ||
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Because... | |
| There's got to be stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And it's definitely been recorded. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| The problem with what Snowden revealed about the wide netting that they're doing, where they're just saving all of these communications, is that it doesn't help to stop terrorism. | ||
| There's too much noise. | ||
| You can't find the signal. | ||
| Right. | ||
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But... | |
| It does help if you are looking for something. | ||
| You know you have all this information to go digging through. | ||
| It helps as an investigative tool, not a preventative tool. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So if you want to release some information, you could ruin anybody's life at any moment. | ||
| If they have a secret, you can put that out there immediately. | ||
| They're discredited or whatever it is. | ||
| Now, I haven't read all of the new WikiLeaks dump because it's fucking massive. | ||
| A million pages, yeah. | ||
| And there's literally no way Alex could have by the next day on air. | ||
| Or because he can't read. | ||
| He might be illiterate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's no way he could skim a couple headlines here and there, which seems to be his modus operandi. | ||
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Right. | |
| But there's no way he could have a nuanced understanding of what's in there, what is actually being revealed. | ||
| And he just lies about it. | ||
| In the time since then, I've... | ||
| Read up on assessments and analysis by people who are in information security and these sorts of fields. | ||
| And basically, the dump that happened is dangerous because it does illustrate a lot of tools that are at the disposal of the CIA and other intelligence agencies. | ||
| It does not indicate in any way that these things were used on citizens. | ||
| I mean, no. | ||
| There is no smoking gun, but you get a shiny toy, you want to play with it. | ||
| And even if it's not been used maliciously from a government standpoint, some CIA dude has seen your naked pictures. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He has. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| They've shared them. | ||
| You know it, I know it. | ||
| Dudes are awful. | ||
| It's happened. | ||
| It's probable. | ||
| I'll give you that much. | ||
| It's likely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it's not what Alex says. | ||
| No. | ||
| He says that it's proof that they killed Michael Hastings by running his car into a tree. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Which is sketchy. | ||
| That's a little bit of a weird instance. | ||
| You're gonna need a little bit more than I bet they could. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He stops just short of saying like the Malaysian planes were instances of this. | ||
| He goes so fucking far on this and that everybody's TV is listening to them. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Like in that book. | ||
| 1984. | ||
| He's taking his paranoid fantasies, there's a slight confirmation that these tools and these backdoors are available to people in intelligence, and then using that information as confirmation of his paranoid fantasies that he's been having for years, when it's not confirmation of that. | ||
| And also, they haven't had it for as long as you might think. | ||
| Not 25 years. | ||
| Yeah, well, they're talking about the backdoors and shit that they have in iOS and all of those things, and those... | ||
| You know, those haven't been around for that long. | ||
| No. | ||
| And they won't be around for longer at all, which is the amazing thing. | ||
| Like, for all the weird and awful shit WikiLeaks has done, they did this time, like, say, hey, we're not going to just publish all of the ways to get into the iOS and the Android operating systems. | ||
| We're going to give it to them first so they can close those holes. | ||
| Oh, they did? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, that's great. | ||
| They haven't done it. | ||
| They are going to, but they're going to wait until Apple and Android closes them. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because that could be a dangerous hacker tool. | ||
| Well, it already is. | ||
| The fact that they have purposefully found these and asked them to stay in there and not revealed them is the most dangerous thing. | ||
| Like, yeah, I guess if you're in the government, that helps you in a certain way, but that also means they exist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And somebody will find them. | ||
| Well, anything that exists like that exists for a reason. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And the only reason for that is to bypass your... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, like, that is, again, the small point in which we agree with Alex. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| All the rest of it, no. | ||
| And one more time, why is it that Obama did all that bombing? | ||
| Did they have something on him? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I want to know. | ||
| It seems inconsistent. | ||
| I want to know. | ||
| Well, apparently... | ||
| Where's my paranoid fantasy at, huh? | ||
| How come I don't get one? | ||
| I was just reading up that, like, Trump has already dropped more bombs than Obama did in a year. | ||
| Perfect. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Love me some America. | ||
| So that argument is gone. | ||
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Yep. | |
| He's already gone golfing more times than Obama did in a year. | ||
| Melania costs us, what, some ridiculous, like half a million dollars a goddamn day? | ||
| Yeah, something like that. | ||
| It's like three million a week. | ||
| Yeah, every single American is paying for her to hate her husband. | ||
| Well, that's the part where we get into fantasy narratives. | ||
| We don't know if it's because she hates. | ||
| Trump. | ||
| It seems like it. | ||
| I mean, there's no other... | ||
| The only other explanation is... | ||
| Barron's gotta go to school. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| No, she hates him. | ||
| And she doesn't want to live in the White House, which I don't... | ||
| Blame her for that. | ||
| Kalu Kalei, what a frabjous day! | ||
| I just realized that we still haven't gotten to the point where Alex tells a lie about his history. | ||
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| So we still have that to look forward to, but I wanted to unpack that WikiLeaks thing a little bit, and I'm glad that we were able to do it without calling Julian Assange a Russian agent, which we'll get to later. | ||
| Oh, great. | ||
| Not today, but later. | ||
| We told you everything. | ||
| And because patriots inside the different agencies were unable to speak out, my show was early adopted, not officially, as a place to dump information. | ||
| And so I had NSA whistleblowers, corporate engineer whistleblowers, you name it. | ||
| I mean, you've seen for many years the Thomas Drake's, the William Benny's, the technical head of the NSA come on the show. | ||
| I don't know what the technical head means. | ||
| Is that true? | ||
| What? | ||
| The technical head. | ||
| I don't know if he means head of technology or he's technically the head. | ||
| Yeah, I don't think he knows. | ||
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I have no idea. | |
| Yeah, the technical head. | ||
| He does have these dudes on who have some pedigree and stuff, but they're also, like, we're going to get into one of them later, a guy named Steve Pachenik. | ||
| He's a guy who, yeah, he was in the CIA. | ||
| He was, like, a psychiatrist within these organizations. | ||
| Was he one of the torture guys? | ||
| I don't know, but he's crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's nuts. | ||
| So these people who Alex gets on, some of them do have history in the service and what have you, but they've lost it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or they never had it, which is even scarier. | ||
| It's equally possible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But they're not like raving street preacher crazy. | ||
| They've got it together enough that they can tell a story. | ||
| Like how, didn't Buzz Aldrin insist that there were people on Mars or something like that? | ||
| Yeah, there's that pillar that's radiating technology. | ||
| You know Buzz. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, here we go. | ||
| So, that's the beginning of his story. | ||
| He's gotten everything right because the military unofficially decided... | ||
| We know we can trust Alex Jones to disseminate this information because no one's going to see it. | ||
| Yeah, that would be, like, that's what conspiracy theory communities believe about Alex Jones, is that he's being tricked by intelligence agencies. | ||
| They give him one correct piece of information and four lies, basically. | ||
| So they're just playing a game, they're playing two truths and a lie with him? | ||
| Is that what's happening? | ||
| Well, yeah, the end goal is to discredit Alex. | ||
| Essentially, as someone who has the truth. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Look, it's stupid. | ||
| It is stupid. | ||
| It's stupid. | ||
| Dumb people are out-dumbing dumb people is what you just described to me. | ||
| More or less. | ||
| But it's not as stupid as where the rest of this story about his past goes. | ||
| Former NSA folks from 20 years ago blowing the whistle as well, like Wayne Madsen. | ||
| I mean, there's countless great people out there. | ||
| So it's not about us getting credit. | ||
| It's about people understanding we've been absolutely on target. | ||
| It's never about them getting credit. | ||
| Never. | ||
| I don't think we've ever listened to him. | ||
| Just once, I want him to be like, hey, give us some credit. | ||
| This is pretty good. | ||
| He actually does do that a little bit. | ||
| He screams. | ||
| Well, I mean, like all of the him being censored stuff. | ||
| Because we just hear every clip. | ||
| It's like, look. | ||
| I know we're amazing, but it's not about us. | ||
| It's false humility. | ||
| I know I'm right all the time, but I don't want to toot my own horn. | ||
| He's big into the false humility game, but then he's also big into the I'm being victimized game, which are very difficult games to play simultaneously. | ||
| Because if you're playing the victim game, it's that I'm awesome and someone else is holding me back. | ||
| Like if you're playing The Price is Right and Jeopardy at the same time, it's very difficult. | ||
| Very hard. | ||
| Because you're going to go over every time. | ||
| You're just going to do it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I dare say it's impossible, but somehow Alex pulls off the... | ||
| What is one dollar, Bob? | ||
| And that's why I was told many years ago that in large divisional groups in the Defense Department, in Defense Intelligence, in the CIA, in the NSA... | ||
| In the geospatial group, in all of them, they would call people in in entire meeting rooms and say, this guy's young, he's wild, but he's done the research and has the sources. | ||
| He's dead on. | ||
| This is the voice of America right here. | ||
| Like Johnny Utah? | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| He just described Point Break. | ||
| So what? | ||
| I think he's wild. | ||
| Was Johnny Utah the voice of America, though? | ||
| He was my voice. | ||
| Or let's maybe go with Lethal Weapon. | ||
| He's Mel Gibson in Lethal Weapon. | ||
| But do you get what he's saying? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The military would call people into boardrooms and be like, Alex Jones is the shit. | ||
| Yep. | ||
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No! | |
| No! | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
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No. | |
| What do you mean? | ||
| Alex Jones was Johnny Utah. | ||
| He played football. | ||
| He was a surfer. | ||
| You know, there's so much water in Texas to surf. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| He was an undercover FBI agent, as we all know. | ||
| Well, his family is CIA. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| His family is CIA. | ||
| His dad was a CIA dentist. | ||
| His dad was a CIA dentist. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
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Anyway, here we go. | |
| We're killing people. | ||
| I came up with Infowar, the way to counter it. | ||
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Why? | |
| We don't have that website. | ||
| We don't know. | ||
| This guy's doing it all. | ||
| He's reverse engineered it. | ||
| This is the guy to listen to. | ||
| And I obviously didn't want to tell you that. | ||
| Even though I knew that 15 years ago. | ||
| And this morning, some folks I know got calls and they were like, yeah, we got ordered 12 years ago to listen to Alex Jones. | ||
| Seal Team 6, you name it. | ||
| Wait! | ||
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Whoa! | |
| Whoa! | ||
| Hold the fucking what? | ||
| They got ordered to listen to Alex. | ||
| It's an order. | ||
| Also, I think... | ||
| Does he think it's been the same, like, SEAL Team 6 is the same guys for the past 12 years? | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| Like, it's just been the same dude? | ||
| Like, we got Dan, and he's just been there the whole time? | ||
| Now he's 65. Yeah. | ||
| But damn, is he good in a pinch. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| He can fly a goddamn helicopter like a motherfucker. | ||
| I don't know how, but he always keeps his feet dry. | ||
| Which is important when you're in country. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
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It's insanity. | |
| Who would order somebody to listen to InfoWars? | ||
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Now, boys, tighten up your boots and listen to Alex Jones. | |
| You don't even listen to InfoWars that much. | ||
| I do. | ||
| Oh, that's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Well, Soros ordered you to, so there is that. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I got my marching orders from old Georgie boy himself. | ||
| Discredit this man. | ||
| That's what George Soros said to me. | ||
| That's what he sounds like, yeah. | ||
| Sounds like Palpatine. | ||
| His fake laugh is still more convincing than Alex Jones's. | ||
| Anyway, he still hasn't gotten to the depths of this fake narrative about his past. | ||
| We resisted. | ||
| We stood up. | ||
| Infowars is on target. | ||
| And if people want to know some of the conversations I've had with Trump, it's been about that. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| I can't believe the intelligence community loves you so much. | ||
| You've been dead on for 20 years? | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, I'm just now learning about all this. | ||
| So two things. | ||
| The intelligence community that Trump hates loves Alex so much, which is bizarre. | ||
| Well, Trump is just surprised by how much they love Alex. | ||
| But again, it goes back to this narrative, there's a split in the intelligence community. | ||
| Well, the patriots within the intelligence community, they love Alex Jones so much, but the pencil necks, who as we know... | ||
| The chicken neck. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| Pencil pushing chicken necks. | ||
| Regional insult action. | ||
| It's a Coke soda thing. | ||
| Now, they, with their wooden American flags, just refuse to bow down to President Trump. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| And they do not like Alex. | ||
| No. | ||
| But then the other thing there... | ||
| Even though they were ordered 12 years ago to listen to him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe they did, and you're like, this guy's full of shit. | ||
| We're in the intelligence community. | ||
| We know how to fact check things. | ||
| And this guy is a liar. | ||
| But, like, the other thing at the end is that, like, he says that in his phone calls with Trump, he's like, I'm just starting to learn about these things, which undercuts the narrative that he's been an Americana sleeper cell since he was 20. Well, he's just starting to learn about the real depths of the globalism. | ||
| They were speaking from the same playbook, but Alex was getting the information straight from the NSA for 20 years. | ||
| You may be right. | ||
| Trump has just been being the good man, you know? | ||
| If he got this information... | ||
| Great, man. | ||
| If he got this information, he would be compromised. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Also, I don't have a clip of this, but there's a point where Alex goes into this story about getting some classified documents when he was younger. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Like the never-ending story? | ||
| Like he goes into a library and finds this magical classified book? | ||
| As I recall, the way he says he got them was some guy pulled up in a car and gave it to him. | ||
| So this guy gives him these documents, and he shows it to his dad, and he's like, oh, yeah, we gotta burn these. | ||
| His dad is like, we went out on my dad's land. | ||
| He's got some great land in Texas. | ||
| We just burned them. | ||
| Because his dad is like, they're trying to set you up with this classified information. | ||
| If you get found with this, you're gonna go down. | ||
| And so they burned the documents. | ||
| Well, I think that's even a sideshow, because the only way to really get rid of those documents is to boil them down into silver fillings. | ||
| We all know that. | ||
| We all know this. | ||
| How do you get rid of a body? | ||
| Turn it into fillings. | ||
| Everybody knows this. | ||
| Turn it into non-fluoride toothpaste. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Dentists are the only true serial killers. | ||
| But dentists, that's just his cover. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| If you want to know, Trump's learning about all this right now. | ||
| About how they can remote control planes, how they can crash cars, how they can turn on microphones and cameras, all of it. | ||
| And people were asking, how did I know this 18, 19 years ago? | ||
| It was because there were a lot of engineers in Austin that were very wealthy that had been part of this that saw me on air talking about it and gave me even more intel. | ||
| It's a good thing they were very wealthy. | ||
| That way we know we can trust them. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| We love the rich. | ||
| Yeah, thanks for pointing that out, Alex. | ||
| But also, the other idea there, if you really unpack what he's saying, is like, I got in the air and started yelling about crazy bullshit I had no proof of. | ||
| And it turns out it was all right. | ||
| And then people gave me proof. | ||
| Okay, that's not how this should work. | ||
| That's not journalism. | ||
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That's just, you lucked out. | |
| You hit some sort of lottery. | ||
| And again, I don't believe the story. | ||
| Even within the realm of us believing. | ||
| The story is unbelievable. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| More to the point, if it's true, which it's not, it's not good. | ||
| It doesn't paint him in a good light. | ||
| I was a crazy dude, y 'all. | ||
| Someone confirmed my crazy. | ||
| There's no win! | ||
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| But it's so delightful. | ||
| In a sea that we're in of kind of boring, subdued Alex. | ||
| This kind of thing is delicious. | ||
| It's just such a nice oasis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Bill Clinton ordered people to surveil me. | ||
| He ordered from our intel people to beat me up. | ||
| To break into my house. | ||
| Yeah, but they couldn't do that. | ||
| They were chicken necks. | ||
| They couldn't beat him up. | ||
| They weren't real men. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| The decision was made before Bill Clinton even left. | ||
| The military said, we're not doing this to Alex Jones. | ||
| So they persecuted me up front and then decided, this is a patriot. | ||
| What the hell are we doing? | ||
| Because they were surveilling me and turned me loose. | ||
| So I've been in the jaws of this system by the grace of God. | ||
| And it's just the right place, the right time, family background, being from Texas, people knowing I'm for real, that we've been leaders for at least 15, 16 years. | ||
| Hardcore inside the government because other people couldn't talk about this stuff. | ||
| And they would say, you listen to Alex Jackson. | ||
| It's not a conspiracy. | ||
| He's dead on. | ||
| This is the intel in the whole program. | ||
| Listen to Jones. | ||
| He's got it all. | ||
| Because I've done the research. | ||
| I've read the globalist books. | ||
| I'm not that special, folks. | ||
| You go read. | ||
| Carol Quigley's books, and you go read Bertrand Russell's books, and you go read Brzezinski's books, and you read Galton's books. | ||
| Some of the stuff's 170 years old. | ||
| Most of it's 60, 70 years old, 30, 40 years old. | ||
| It's all there. | ||
| I just read all the books. | ||
| What's all there? | ||
| People act like they're professors. | ||
| They act like they're intel analysts. | ||
| They act like they're researching. | ||
| They're not. | ||
| They're just trying to act cool. | ||
| I did it. | ||
| And I'm not bragging. | ||
| Yes, you are! | ||
| I love how he goes immediately from the intelligence community was ordered to listen to me because I'm so right. | ||
| I'm the only one who's real. | ||
| I'm the greatest broadcaster in history. | ||
| I'm not saying this to tell you how great I am. | ||
| I'm not bragging. | ||
| I'm not bragging. | ||
| I would never brag. | ||
| False humility. | ||
| I'm just letting you guys know this is... | ||
| God. | ||
| The delusions of grandeur within that little clip right there. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Yeah, it's next level shit. | ||
| That's incredible. | ||
| And we were getting to, like, talking over that clip a tiny bit, was he doesn't say what it is. | ||
| No! | ||
| It's all in there. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| You haven't read these books. | ||
| What books? | ||
| What's in the books? | ||
| I've just been reading the globalist books. | ||
| Some of them are 140 years old. | ||
| Is he then saying that the technology to watch you through your TV is 140 years old? | ||
| More or less. | ||
| Or at least the plans to make it close. | ||
| 12th Dimensions. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We're back to that. | ||
| We're back to the 12th Dimensions. | ||
| You're right. | ||
| That's like some J.K. Rowling shit where you can just wave your hand with 12 Dimensions and everything makes sense again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We have to also put a really fine point on this, that he is so making the point that he's done the research, he's studied these things, and he's right about everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Not to brag, though. | ||
| It's by the grace of God that he's right about everything. | ||
| But more importantly, we've consistently shown that he doesn't know about the things he reads. | ||
| Like, that's the theme of this show, essentially, is basically Alex Jones doesn't understand. | ||
| Alex Jones can't read. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He has no reading comprehension skills. | ||
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| So for him to sit here and brag about, like, I've read all these books, I don't trust your ability to read those books. | ||
| Especially since he read them when he was six. | ||
| I don't want to read these books, to be honest. | ||
| I don't have the time. | ||
| I got a lot of Zelda to play. | ||
| So I'm not going to go and read these books. | ||
| That's the new running theme of this podcast. | ||
| I'm sick of debunking Alex. | ||
| I got Zelda to play. | ||
| I guarantee if I read these books, they wouldn't say what he thinks they say. | ||
| I am positive of that. | ||
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| Anyway, this clip isn't over. | ||
| I think he brags a little bit more very humbly. | ||
| So I told you, big leaks are coming. | ||
| Giant leaks are coming. | ||
| And I said Trump doesn't want to have to release all this because it can really hurt the country and hurt our intelligence gathering capabilities overseas. | ||
| But it's all being done illegally by rogue groups to enslave the country, to blackmail, to have servers acting like they're in Russia, attacking things, which the intel community knows. | ||
| Because they've got systems above that that watch it. | ||
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| And they know they've been trying to set Trump up with Russians. | ||
| And that's all come out in the news. | ||
| It's up on Infowars.com right now, Dr. Corsi. | ||
| That's not the news. | ||
| Vault 7. CIA can stage fake Russian hacking to undermine Trump. | ||
| CIA kept Russian cyber attack techniques handy for false flags. | ||
| Wait, hold on. | ||
| And they did it to Trump. | ||
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| But the intel community then looked in Congress at the claims and they were fake. | ||
| And so they kept saying Trump's got a secret server. | ||
| Yeah, they were running one right out of a van outside the Trump Tower trying to spoof his IPs. | ||
| And then they rolled the whole thing up, folks. | ||
| No, they didn't. | ||
| So he's saying that in WikiLeaks they revealed that the CIA specifically points out that they have the tools to perform false flag Russian operations against Trump. | ||
| No. | ||
| Well, no, not really. | ||
| I think that's what he said, though, right? | ||
| That's what he's trying to say. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The reality is what they showed is that the CIA does have some... | ||
| Russian origin malware. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That they have confiscated or found. | ||
| And Russia has some of our malware. | ||
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| Yeah. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| But the thing is, he then makes the leap to all of this stuff is what was used for the Russian hacking. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Which is absolutely not true. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There are good resources that I've found that I don't fully understand, but I understand enough. | ||
| To know that these malware things that are in the WikiLeaks are not the specific ones that are the code that is found in the Russian hacks. | ||
| They don't match up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the idea that it was a false flag thing proven by these WikiLeaks is 100% not true. | ||
| The bigger issue is that Alex, having presented himself as someone who talks to Trump on the phone... | ||
| Drops this little bit where he's like, Trump didn't want to release this stuff, which implies... | ||
| That Trump released it through WikiLeaks. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| Because the globalists won't leave him alone. | ||
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Now, if that's at all true... | |
| And we do know that Flynn communicated with Guccifer... | ||
| Roger Stone did. | ||
| Roger Stone did. | ||
| That's right. | ||
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And had foreknowledge of the WikiLeaks hacks. | |
| And again, just because we're using the term sort of loosely, I want to make it clear that we don't think WikiLeaks hacked things. | ||
| There's a separation of... | ||
| They get the information, and there's a very strange... | ||
| Power structure. | ||
| The hierarchy there is pretty ludicrous. | ||
| I just noticed that we were saying WikiLeaks hacks a bit. | ||
| I wanted to make clear that we're not saying that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They just get it and throw it out there. | ||
| So Stone has connections, knows in advance the DNC hack is coming. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So we know there's one connection there. | ||
| Lies about it and then later admits it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because... | ||
| What was his defense there? | ||
| That it was just like, well, everybody knew it was coming. | ||
| Everybody talks to Guccifer. | ||
| Yeah, that was his defense, right? | ||
| The New York Times talked to him, so that means it's fine if I do. | ||
| There was that, and then also, like, oh, it was a benign conversation. | ||
| That sort of thing. | ||
| What? | ||
| What conversation can you have? | ||
| He went on Alex's... | ||
| You're Roger Stone. | ||
| Roger Stone does not have any benign conversation. | ||
| No, sir. | ||
| He is either kicking ass shirtless or talking to hackers. | ||
| You know he has a tattoo of Nixon's face on his back? | ||
| That's not true. | ||
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It is. | |
| That's not true. | ||
| You can find pictures of it. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I refuse to... | ||
| I don't want to live in this world, okay? | ||
| Yes, Nixon. | ||
| You just proved that there is no point in any of us continuing. | ||
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Nope. | |
| Wow. | ||
| So, Roger Stone is a notorious liar and a Republican dirty trickster for, like, the last 40, 50 years. | ||
| Like, so the idea that he's above board is just incredible lunacy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Anybody who would take him at his word is a fucking idiot. | ||
| But we do know... | ||
| Alex Jones takes him at his word. | ||
| They seem to be best friends. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So, the fact that he has these contacts with WikiLeaks and with Guccifer 2.0, it's not benign. | ||
| It can't be. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| There's something going on there. | ||
| Now, I don't know what it was. | ||
| Maybe it was just information digging or something like that. | ||
| That's still fucked up. | ||
| People know what it was. | ||
| Someone does. | ||
| Someone has to. | ||
| What? | ||
| Why can't we just get... | ||
| Why is it that everything points to one possible conclusion? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or... | ||
| It's all a weird system of happenstance. | ||
| So it's either there's collusion there... | ||
| Or it's like a drawing room farce where everybody's walking into different doors and following, and then they come out of a different door and they look at each other like, I didn't know you were there! | ||
| It's like a... | ||
| It's an episode of Three's Company! | ||
| Basically, or it's like Murder on the Orient Express, where everybody kills the guy, but none of them knew. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| Everybody on this train independently killed this guy. | ||
| Yeah, it's Clue. | ||
| There's multiple endings for this shit. | ||
| But some people have to have enough information by this point. | ||
| There's no possible way, there isn't enough information to go one way or the other. | ||
| I think Roger Stone might be close to getting a real polonium poisoning. | ||
| I think he's in danger. | ||
| The ambassador's dying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which even then, they could have just died. | ||
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Could've. | |
| That's possible. | ||
| They're all connected to the Dirty Dossier. | ||
| And it's a lot of them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very soon and close together. | ||
| Eight this year, I think. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But they were all old people. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| Not super old, but old enough that it's... | ||
| It's a reasonable thing. | ||
| Somebody knows, and we don't. | ||
| And it's so frustrating. | ||
| Every day I wake up angry because it's like, just fucking... | ||
| To me, right now, this is like Chinese water torture, where every day there's just another little drip, another drip. | ||
| Like, I just want them to blow up the world or leave. | ||
| You just wish that the Band-Aid would get pulled off. | ||
| Yeah, just end it. | ||
| Nuclear war, fine at this point, just so I don't have to listen to your bullshit anymore. | ||
| Yeah, the tension needs to be released. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, I have faith that it will. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| I think we're heading towards disclosure. | ||
| But people have been saying that about aliens for years. | ||
| Anyway, Jordan, it's time. | ||
| Which, in specific, Alex Jones has said about Trump in the past, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he's suggested it. | ||
| He's never outright said, Trump will tell us about aliens. | ||
| But he's... | ||
| It wasn't the first... | ||
| Like, he was talking with Rogan, right? | ||
| Where he's like, oh, the first thing I would ask is, where are the aliens? | ||
| Tell me about the aliens. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, but I think Alex is more interested and more very overt about he's going to give us immortality technology. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So I don't know about that. | ||
| Alex does want to live forever. | ||
| Speaking of Rogan, it's time for us now. | ||
| It's time for some Eddie Bravo. | ||
| It's time for us to get to the star fuckery portion of the show. | ||
| Over this last week, Alex has been going into overdrive in terms of booking guests who are celebrity in nature. | ||
| Anything to distract. | ||
| He had some military folk on who were a little bit scary in their commitment to Trump. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| In a way that felt like it wasn't just because he's the president. | ||
| It felt very weird. | ||
| But then, beyond that, he's had a string of celebrity guests this week. | ||
| He started the week on Wednesday. | ||
| He had Eddie Bravo in studio, which we're going to get into. | ||
| And then also, at the end of the week... | ||
| He had been teasing this for the entire week. | ||
| He had Jesse James, motorcycle impresario, and former reality TV star, and Nazi. | ||
| Wait, what? | ||
| Jesse James is a Nazi? | ||
| You don't know about that? | ||
| I did not know about that. | ||
| Now, I can't say that he's a Nazi. | ||
| I avoid celebrity everything as much as possible. | ||
| I can't say that he's a Nazi. | ||
| But he doesn't look good. | ||
| He's got some Nazi in him. | ||
| He was wearing a Nazi hat and put two fingers over his top lip, indicating sort of like a Hitler mustache. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And Sieg Heil in a picture that was released in 2014, which is just... | ||
| Could be goofy. | ||
| Isn't that... | ||
| No, I think I do remember that one because the internet got all... | ||
| Oh boy, we got him now! | ||
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Right. | |
| Oh, we're gonna be mean to him for a day until we ignore him again. | ||
| Now, I can't say that that proves anything because people take dumb pictures all the time. | ||
| People are dumb. | ||
| Especially rich, entitled white people. | ||
| Now, here's my question. | ||
| They're gonna do dumb shit. | ||
| Why does he have a Nazi hat? | ||
| That's number one. | ||
| Who... | ||
| Why don't you have a Nazi hat? | ||
| That's a great question. | ||
| Number two. | ||
| This is my other piece of evidence that I think Jesse James is a Nazi. | ||
| His business is called West Coast Choppers. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And their original logo was very similar to the Nazi Iron Cross. | ||
| Hmm. | ||
| Almost identical. | ||
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Oh. | |
| He then, a couple years later, changed his logo and it was basically the Nazi eagle. | ||
| It's just that bird. | ||
| So he's just cycling through imagery now? | ||
| And he calls that new logo the Warbird. | ||
| Oh, I don't like that at all. | ||
| No. | ||
| It's not proof, but man, it doesn't look good. | ||
| It doesn't look good. | ||
| Now. | ||
| It's a coincidence. | ||
| Another piece of coincidence. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
| After he got divorced from Sandra Bullock, he started messing around with this lady named Michelle Bombshell McGee. | ||
| Who is a bit of a Nazi. | ||
| Wait, he was married to Sandra Bullock? | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| Is Sandra Bullock a Nazi? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| She divorced him and adopted an African-American baby, so I don't know. | ||
| Wait, am I just thinking of the plot of The Blind Side? | ||
| Yeah, I don't know what just happened right there. | ||
| What just happened? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| So this lady, Michelle McGee, also known as Bombshell, she has a tattoo on her leg on the back of her thighs. | ||
| WP. | ||
| Which is notorious in circles as white power. | ||
| She has claimed that it stands for wet pussy. | ||
| I mean... | ||
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I'd go with either one of those. | |
| She was quoted as saying Jesse and I had a conversation about it and he says a lot... | ||
| That's a new conversation. | ||
| He says a lot of his friends have the tattoo. | ||
| A wet pussy tattoo? | ||
| Or a white power tattoo? | ||
| I mean... | ||
| Doesn't look good. | ||
| A lot of my friends have white power tattoos. | ||
| Which friends? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Then, another piece of evidence that Michelle Bombshell McGee is a Nazi. | ||
| On Facebook, she's listed Mein Kampf as her favorite book. | ||
| She's a Nazi! | ||
| That's a Nazi! | ||
| And that does not stand for wet pussy. | ||
| Yeah, no, that's Mein Kampf. | ||
| Although that would be a way better book. | ||
| I feel like... | ||
| I don't know if he would have sold as many copies at the time, but... | ||
| I've read not the entirety of Mein Kampf, but I've read a bit of it. | ||
| And if it's your favorite book, it's not for the literature. | ||
| It's not a well-written book. | ||
| Yeah? | ||
| The only thing to take away from it is hatred of the Jews. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's really the only point. | ||
| You know, I've been told in the past to read it, and every time I was like, nah, I don't think there's any... | ||
| I don't think there's any reason to. | ||
| No. | ||
| I think we're good. | ||
| It's much like me going back and reading these globalist books. | ||
| We don't have time for that. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| Life is almost over now. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| I'm so glad that now that I know I only have five years left. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When Michelle McGee got a divorce, when she was suing for custody of their children, her ex-husband said that she had child block magnets on the refrigerator that would spell out white power. | ||
| She's a Nazi. | ||
| Then... | ||
| Jesse James is a Nazi. | ||
| Jesse James also was formerly married to Janine Lundemuller, who's that porn star who was on the cover of the Blink-182 album, Take Off Your Pants and Jackets. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| I think that was that album. | ||
| I can't remember their fucking dumbass title names. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they got divorced, and then she got remarried to a guy named Jeremy Aikman, who's a multiple-time felon and an admitted skinhead. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Jesse, James, and Sandra Bullock fought to revoke Linda Mueller's custody of the child that he and Janine had together, citing her marriage to Aikman as evidence of negative environments for children. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a good citation. | ||
| I don't think she should get custody. | ||
| All of these, again, don't... | ||
| Like, dead to rights prove anything. | ||
| But if you're hanging around with that many Nazis... | ||
| You're gonna look like a Nazi! | ||
| It's not good! | ||
| You're a Nazi! | ||
| I don't think that necessarily Jesse James is himself an actual Nazi. | ||
| But he's not a Nazi. | ||
| Because it is not the 1940s. | ||
| He's not a reasonable person, though. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Because if I were around... | ||
| Did he instead become very reasonable while being on Alex Jones' show? | ||
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By comparison, yes. | |
| I did not have time to pull this clip. | ||
| Because he didn't do a Nazi salute? | ||
| Well, he actually just seems like a kind of chill dude. | ||
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Oh, okay. | |
| He actually comes off pretty decent. | ||
| In the same way that Eddie Bravo comes off pretty decent, too. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But, like... | ||
| He does do one thing that I think is amazing. | ||
| And that is he tells Alex repeatedly to stop being a sore winner. | ||
| Which I think is great. | ||
| And it really disrupts Alex's flow. | ||
| This is the first time Alex has gotten some shit thrown in his face, huh? | ||
| At least in the last months of watching this. | ||
| Since we've been around. | ||
| And he can't shout him down because he's Jesse James. | ||
| Notorious real man. | ||
| And celebrity. | ||
| And Nazi. | ||
| Alex has to kiss his ass. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because he's a star fucker. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, it really throws off the interview, and by the time he does tell Alex to stop being a sore winner, it just, like, Alex can't get his bearings back. | ||
| And he ends up just being like, what kind of cars do you got? | ||
| It becomes just a... | ||
| Which is what it should have been in the first place, Alex. | ||
| You dropped the ball on that one. | ||
| It doesn't fit the narrative of the Alex Jones show, though. | ||
| So, I'm going to play a couple of clips of Jesse James, and then we will get to the real fun, which is... | ||
| The Adventures of Eddie Bravo. | ||
| But this one, actually, Jesse, isn't in. | ||
| It's just Alex lying real hard. | ||
| Ronald Reagan met him and never did this and wrote a letter back saying, I felt like I met the president, not the other way around. | ||
| And there's people that have known him 30 plus years and they knew. | ||
| He's talking about Trump. | ||
| That didn't happen. | ||
| What? | ||
| That didn't happen. | ||
| Reagan met Trump? | ||
| Yeah, Reagan met Trump. | ||
| Reagan didn't meet Trump, did he? | ||
| He did. | ||
| When Trump was much younger. | ||
| There's a picture of them shaking hands. | ||
| And that quote that I thought I was meeting the president, or that's how I felt because he had such a powerful presence. | ||
| He never said that. | ||
| Never said it. | ||
| No. | ||
| I did some research on it. | ||
| I tracked it down. | ||
| Alex is quoting a meme. | ||
| Oh! | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I was waiting for you to say Alex was quoting Alex, because that seems very much in his move. | ||
| He has said this before in the past. | ||
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Of course. | |
| It is a thing he keeps bringing up. | ||
| But that has no basis in reality. | ||
| It just showed up in a meme, and people have just accepted that it's true. | ||
| The same way three million undocumented immigrants voted in the last election, that whole thing. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| So, I just love that. | ||
| I love when you just... | ||
| See definitive evidence of someone. | ||
| Just whole cloth making shit up. | ||
| Not doing the research. | ||
| Not understanding what he's reading. | ||
| It would take a 20 second Google search to find the origin of that meme. | ||
| It's so easy. | ||
| The only thing that's strange, and it even surprised you, is that Reagan did meet Trump. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, that is weird, and because it's so weird, and there's a picture of it, that's why someone created this meme. | ||
| Yeah, of course. | ||
| So this clip is a little bit longer, but... | ||
| I'm going to cut it off in the middle. | ||
| Why wouldn't you instead make the meme about when the Clintons were hanging out with Trump? | ||
| And instead it's like Hillary 20 years ago said, wow, it felt like I met the president. | ||
| That would be a good meme. | ||
| Yeah, but Reagan's dead. | ||
| Reagan is dead. | ||
| So you can lie and he can't rebut it. | ||
| Well, I mean, in his later years he couldn't rebut it either. | ||
| That might have been when we met him. | ||
| So it might have been true. | ||
| Mainly because Reagan thought he was meeting FDR. | ||
| He can walk again? | ||
| Holy shit! | ||
| So I want to point this out. | ||
| Last week, Donald Trump did tweet about how Russia has run over America. | ||
| And he put run over in quotes. | ||
| This is incredibly important because that's Alex Jones slang. | ||
| He talks about powerful people running over weaker people. | ||
| That's specifically Donald Trump using Alex Jones slang. | ||
| I mean, it is in the popular consciousness, though. | ||
| I've said, I don't know if I've ever said it, but I know it exists. | ||
| I know it's a saying. | ||
| It does, but Alex says it all the time. | ||
| And he did use quotes, didn't he? | ||
| He did, which is suspicious. | ||
| Mainly because Trump doesn't know where quotes go. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| In our history of Trump tweeting, I don't think he's used quotes correctly at all. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| So let's get back to Jesse James here. | ||
| He starts out this clip really dumb and then gets really aggressive about protesters, which I don't approve of. | ||
| Why would Russia hack our election? | ||
| For what? | ||
| It's saying you didn't have the initiative to go vote for him, Jesse James. | ||
| You're a Russian robot. | ||
| So that's stupid. | ||
| Alex thinks that the idea is that the Russian hack means that no one voted for Trump. | ||
| That's stupid. | ||
| That's not what anybody's saying. | ||
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Nope. | |
| And then Jesse James trying to be like, why would Russia do it? | ||
| Like you said, a million reasons. | ||
| So many reasons. | ||
| Putin notably hates Hillary Clinton. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They have a documented history of him really not liking her. | ||
| And her being tough on them in terms of sanctions. | ||
| I mean, who doesn't have reasons to hack the American election? | ||
| If I could hack it, I probably would. | ||
| It'd be fun. | ||
| I know I'd leave a trail. | ||
| Yeah, well, you wouldn't be very good at it. | ||
| Neither would I. I stick to the things I'm good at, like freeing elephants in the land of Hyrule. | ||
| So anyway, back to this clip. | ||
| I'm a Russian robot. | ||
| They're just in denial. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| And I get it all the time. | ||
| And this is why I don't have anything really to come on here to talk to you about. | ||
| It's really that special, I think. | ||
| Oh, come on. | ||
| No, but I like to come on here. | ||
| Just as a voice of the blue-collar Americans. | ||
| Yeah, Jesse James, a blue-collar American. | ||
| He's worth $100 million. | ||
| Who was once married to Sandra Bullock, you know, like blue-collar Americans are. | ||
| Went from Sandra Bullock to a Nazi stripper. | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| Hey. | ||
| We can't yet prove that Sandra Bullock herself is not a Nazi stripper. | ||
| That's a fair point. | ||
| We haven't got the documents yet. | ||
| It may be in the dirty dossier. | ||
| Again, I'm going to punt on this investigation. | ||
| I don't want any part of it. | ||
| That would be the funniest. | ||
| If we broke that Sandra Bullock was a Nazi stripper, that'd be a solid scoop. | ||
| If we start screaming about it, maybe some rich Chicagoan will give us information. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Like, I get it. | ||
| I get what he's saying about being blue collar. | ||
| He works on cars. | ||
| He has these outward trappings of appearing blue collar. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But he has a hundred fucking million dollars. | ||
| And he's probably worth way more than that. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know why? | ||
| He has all that money? | ||
| West Coast Choppers is incredibly successful. | ||
| It's a huge motorcycle company. | ||
| And, they don't really get into this on the show, but he has NRA branded shirts. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, so he makes millions of dollars selling NRA clothes. | ||
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No! | |
| It's super fucked up. | ||
| Why is it that everybody's connected with murder weapons? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe because they're Nazis. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Nazis really do know how to do their gun shit. | ||
| They also talk about these allegations that he's a Nazi at some point, and he's like, look, I survived a media tornado, and everyone says all this ugly shit. | ||
| It's like, yeah, but that's because there's ugly shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, if you didn't have a Nazi stripper girlfriend that you were banging around with... | ||
| And I don't think that stripper is a negative part of this at all. | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| That it's perfectly fine. | ||
| I think we should just... | ||
| Cut the stripper part. | ||
| But that makes it interesting. | ||
| And Nazi girlfriend still is interesting to me. | ||
| I think you can get rid of stripper and Nazi girlfriend still works on me being interesting. | ||
| I think the media narrative, though, of going from Sandra Bullock to a stripper is compelling for the media. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I agree with you. | ||
| We shouldn't be... | ||
| For tabloid journalism bullshit. | ||
| We shouldn't be judging sex workers. | ||
| But going from Sandra Bullock to Nazi is just as interesting, I feel like. | ||
| Literally could be a lateral move. | ||
| Our investigation is ongoing. | ||
| And then all these other connections to Nazis, your iconography being Nazi in origin, you can't be mad that people started drawing connections. | ||
| In the same way that this whole thing with Trump being investigated, you can't be mad about that. | ||
| There's a reason to investigate this. | ||
| If you have a German last name and your grandfather has a lot of Nazi memorabilia, maybe... | ||
| If you have their fillings. | ||
| Maybe he's just really fascinated by World War II memorabilia, or maybe he was a Nazi. | ||
| Yeah, and maybe it's worth looking into. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Because the difference really matters. | ||
| And getting your grandfather up on international court. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Get him into a Nuremberg trial. | ||
| Take this old man to the Hague! | ||
| People that think that, you know, because I'm filthy dirty every day and because I work, I weld and I make stuff and I'm a mechanic, they think I'm an idiot. | ||
| They're arrogant assholes. | ||
| And that's the way they think about the majority of this country. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| We're on the same page. | ||
| Tell the elites who've got a dwindling audience, who lie about our president, who's truly delivering like nobody's ever done in our modern history on what he would say he would do. | ||
| I mean, it's truly incredible. | ||
| It's messianic. | ||
| What do you want to say to the people right there in camera four that think because you actually built your own business and made hundreds of millions of dollars doing it, billions total, and gross, that you're an idiot because they're a bunch of do-nothings? | ||
| What do you want to say to the so-called elites? | ||
| Alex keeps trying to get him to do shoot promos on the globalists. | ||
| He keeps trying to be like, what do you want to say to these people? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he can cut it and put it in the... | ||
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| And Jesse James is very resistant to it, to his credit. | ||
| He's just like, look, we won the election. | ||
| He's getting to work and he's going about his business. | ||
| Let's just live our lives. | ||
| Why do you have to yell at everybody all the time, Alex? | ||
| And I don't think that he's an idiot. | ||
| No. | ||
| Like, I don't think, I mean... | ||
| I don't think he's a genius. | ||
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No. | |
| But I don't think he's an idiot either. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| In the same way, and I know this is a weird equivalence to make. | ||
| I think he's a Nazi. | ||
| Don't think he's an idiot. | ||
| But I do think he's a Nazi. | ||
| I don't think he's an idiot. | ||
| Most Nazis weren't idiots. | ||
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Nope. | |
| That's how they pulled off something that horrible. | ||
| I think it's the same way where people think the Kardashians are idiots. | ||
| And to me, I mean, maybe that's... | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| But also they turned not... | ||
| Being able to have skills into the most profitable skill you can have. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Like, they did make this whole weird empire. | ||
| They're not stupid. | ||
| Some of it could come down to luck. | ||
| Or they're just ridiculously lucky, yeah. | ||
| Some of it could come down to luck, or like a Machiavellian leader, like the mom, like Chris, could be incredibly smart and everyone's going along for the ride. | ||
| Yeah, it could be that. | ||
| I don't know, but you're right. | ||
| That point is salient in terms of like, you can't be an idiot and create... | ||
| Something that huge. | ||
| I mean, you can. | ||
| It's very hard. | ||
| It's happened before. | ||
| Also, it takes an incredibly smart person to play an idiot. | ||
| So the fact that they present themselves as dumb is kind of almost an indication that they're not that dumb. | ||
| I think you're getting a little bit too far down the rabbit hole there. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| They could just be dumb. | ||
| Like, George, like, W, you know, he could be this brilliant mastermind. | ||
| Or he could just be a dumb idiot with a great... | ||
| Pedigree of... | ||
| I think he's like Jesse James. | ||
| He's probably a high version of the middle. | ||
| You know, like, I think the reason that George W. Bush seems dumb is because we're used to smart, well-spoken, articulate, composed people. | ||
| So it's our perception of what the traits of a smart person is. | ||
| Or of a president. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Which is now completely demolished. | ||
| No, there's no positive traits to presidents anymore. | ||
| He looked dumb in comparison to our image of president, but he wasn't that dumb as a whole. | ||
| No, I think you're probably... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| And it's the same with Jesse James. | ||
| He looks dumb because... | ||
| Of images we have in our head. | ||
| Because of so many reasons. | ||
| He looks dumb for so many reasons, though. | ||
| Those tattoos aren't helping. | ||
| Not just images we have in our head. | ||
| He really cultivates a dumb image. | ||
| Yeah, but that also helps him sell shirts for the NRA. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| So, I mean, it's... | ||
| Anyway, who cares? | ||
| He's not dumb, though. | ||
| No, but I mean, listen, I get... | ||
| I do get stuttering angry. | ||
| And I get what you're saying. | ||
| Hey, be cool. | ||
| Don't let him get to you. | ||
| You're already awake, Jesse. | ||
| You've already been through this. | ||
| I'm pissed off that we've got the best numbers in this country in decades and somebody working their ass off for the people and every major newspaper I know of says they want to see him assassinated. | ||
| I'm not looking for trouble, but it makes me want to get aggressive. | ||
| That's not in the papers. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's not in every single newspaper. | ||
| Unless Alex is just not aware of any newspapers. | ||
| And then that sentence is logically accurate. | ||
| I don't think... | ||
| Well, we know he's aware because he has printed out thousands on thousands of articles. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| And read all of their headlines. | ||
| Yes, that is true. | ||
| So, my argument doesn't hold water. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He's just lying about assassination threats. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I'm sick of this crap! | ||
| This guy's working for me and my family, and I'm getting pissed about this! | ||
| I'm not pissed about those people. | ||
| I think it's funny. | ||
| I think it's funny that they've whipped themselves up into a big tizzy over the working class people working hard and accomplishing. | ||
| They all worked hard and voted and got this to Guy Elect. | ||
| They're losers. | ||
| And now he's working hard for them. | ||
| You know, let them cry. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I'm not... | ||
| Hootie and the Blowfish. | ||
| Yeah, I was about to point that out. | ||
| Oh, boy. | ||
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Let them cry. | |
| Gonna be a sore winner. | ||
| There's nothing worse than a sore winner. | ||
| I agree, but I'm just pointing out, they said they had him wiretapped. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| Now I'm going to go be a star winner. | ||
| Then they say he's a liar a month later. | ||
| That's what these people do. | ||
| They lie. | ||
| I know, but... | ||
| You know? | ||
| What do you think happens, God forbid, they do assassinate Trump? | ||
| Never going to do it, man. | ||
| We have the best protection, the best elite, and it's the same thing. | ||
| It's a trunk full of ping pong balls. | ||
| The only people... | ||
| What's a trunk full of ping pong balls? | ||
| That's a metaphor he made earlier in the interview. | ||
| He's talking about how if you have a trunk full of ping pong balls, that's not going to add anything to your car. | ||
| It's not going to really hurt your car. | ||
| It's just nothing. | ||
| That doesn't do anything. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's saying that people tweeting threats... | ||
| I guess that has a logic to it. | ||
| It does. | ||
| It's not great. | ||
| It's not a great metaphor. | ||
| It's not the best I've ever heard, but it does track. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It makes sense to the point he's trying to make. | ||
| But yeah, I like his perspective. | ||
| Shrug it off. | ||
| These are assholes. | ||
| And people who are threatening to assassinate the president or saying he should die, I think a lot of those people are assholes. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| Who just want attention or want to be shocking. | ||
| And they're not the people who are in positions where they actually could. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I definitely wouldn't vocalize any of my inner thoughts. | ||
| I think you already have. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| I think you might have on this podcast. | ||
| No, I doubt it. | ||
| I don't think if you go back through our records you'll find any incriminating things that I've said. | ||
| Smash cut to a clip of you saying Trump should be hung in the streets. | ||
| I'm just, I mean, according to our laws. | ||
| I'm not saying we should lawlessly hang him in the streets. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| I'm just saying that according to the Constitution. | ||
| And the laws we have. | ||
| It is well within our legal rights to hang Trump in the middle of the street. | ||
| I don't fully disagree, but I also don't agree for safety's sake. | ||
| People that are coming out on Twitter and saying like, oh, I think Trump should get killed. | ||
| They're only doing that to give themselves a little bit of fame. | ||
| It's still illegal. | ||
| I agree, but it's still illegal. | ||
| Did you see what Billy218 said? | ||
| He said he would kill Trump. | ||
| Oh my God, retweet that. | ||
| He deleted the tweet. | ||
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Probably someone actually called that. | |
| Can we see who Billy328 is? | ||
| We're not actually blaming Billy328. | ||
| I bet there is one. | ||
| It's fluff. | ||
| It doesn't mean anything. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Jesse, I 100% agree. | ||
| You've coined the term. | ||
| The MSM is not the fake stream. | ||
| They are the false reality media. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like you said, you said they're a false... | ||
| It's a business. | ||
| They're trying to make money. | ||
| But they could do that telling the truth. | ||
| If they ran 18 hours of programming every day on all Trump's accomplishments and everything he's done in the first 50 days and all that... | ||
| Is that him? | ||
| I think he said 328. | ||
| That's not... | ||
| Billy 218. | ||
| They pulled up an egg Twitter account on their main screen of Billy 218. | ||
| That is the best investigative journalism they've done ever. | ||
| So far, yeah. | ||
| They immediately found out that if you Google something, it will appear. | ||
| But they got the number wrong. | ||
| He said Billy 328, and they pulled up 218. | ||
| So they even fucked that up. | ||
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You know what? | |
| You know what? | ||
| I'm going to give them a pass. | ||
| I think we're going to give them an A for effort there. | ||
| They did Google something this time. | ||
| B for effort. | ||
| All right, good point. | ||
| Billy, I'm sure it's great. | ||
| Go ahead. | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| But if they ran a whole show of that, no one would watch it because it's not a train wreck. | ||
| I'd watch it. | ||
| I mean, if it was real data, I mean, all this real data is coming in. | ||
| I mean, I get it, I guess. | ||
| Well, I guess that's what our audience is. | ||
| That's what happens if you shut your phone off and your computer off to all that stuff. | ||
| It does drive me crazy. | ||
| I'll be in a great mood. | ||
| I come in here and, like, look at 100 articles. | ||
| I'm going to jump on. | ||
| So you just ignore all this crap? | ||
| Yeah, like, hey, I was hyper-connected to it before the election, and now that we won, I can sit back and, like, you know what? | ||
| I know I have my friend working his ass off in the White House for people like me and people that think like me, and I know it's the first time because there hasn't been a president in there in a long, long time that really cared about the little guy. | ||
| Jesse James, I totally agree with that statement. | ||
| You know, it's a sense of... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't have to worry about it anymore. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Jesse James just said some straight nonsense, and he sounded like the most brilliant person. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Compared to Alex Jones' rambling rage and just flecks of spittle coming out of his mouth. | ||
| Jesse James sounds like a genius. | ||
| He sounds completely reasonable for the most part, but he is using a little bit of dog-whistly shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like the idea that now that Trump's in, we don't have to worry about stuff. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We don't have to worry about something that rhymes with booze. | ||
| It's the first time we've had a president in a really long time that is this way. | ||
| It's not... | ||
| Since Woodrow Wilson! | ||
| It's not about... | ||
| We haven't had an anti-semi-president since Woodrow Wilson! | ||
| Well, an outwardly anti-semi-president. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| We did have Nixon. | ||
| There's no indication that it holds water at all that the presidents haven't cared about poor people or the middle class. | ||
| No, in fact, there's a lot of evidence that... | ||
| Well, I mean, maybe the last president who cared about the poor and the middle class was FDR. | ||
| We've cared intensely. | ||
| Well, and then you got LBJ. | ||
| Although whether or not he cared is a whole different story. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He's an interesting case study. | ||
| Let's not unpack it. | ||
| I apologize. | ||
| But there is one thing I did do, which is look up both Billy 328 and Billy 218. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Great investigative journalism. | ||
| I googled them so fast. | ||
| Didn't take that long at all. | ||
| And they were all Twitter eggs. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And they were the same thing. | ||
| They don't follow anybody and they have three followers max. | ||
| It reminds me of that thing where there was an article about how there are these Russian Twitter bots. | ||
| Not necessarily even Russian ones, but there are Twitter bots that are lying dormant that they will eventually use to kind of make certain topics trend. | ||
| And put them into the national consciousness. | ||
| And those were such, like, so suspicious in their, oh, these just exist. | ||
| Nothing going on there. | ||
| Yeah, it's super fucked up. | ||
| I don't remember the exact number, but it was a shockingly high percentage of Twitter's total accounts are fake. | ||
| The Cambridge Analytica guys. | ||
| Those guys. | ||
| Which we don't want to talk about. | ||
| No, because they'll find us. | ||
| If I'm afraid of anybody, it's them at this point. | ||
| They know what I'm doing in that Zelda game. | ||
| They're all up on it. | ||
| Fucking Zelda. | ||
| Now, it is time to get to our main man, Eddie Bravo. | ||
| Eddie Bravo. | ||
| Eddie comes in and, again, seems like a really good-hearted dude. | ||
| Also seems very dumb. | ||
| But, like, he comes in and I could not help but smile seeing Eddie Bravo in the Infowars studio. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| You watch the show every day. | ||
| You're on. | ||
| This is amazing. | ||
| Good for you, Eddie Bravo. | ||
| You're happy for him for reaching the heights of his potential? | ||
| I am. | ||
| I mean, good for him! | ||
| But it goes south really fast. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| So then they start talking about Pizzagate, and Alex Jones accidentally walks backwards and stumbles straight into an addition of Ya Busted. | ||
| God damn you! | ||
| He's a tough guy, man. | ||
| I told you not to do that! | ||
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And he's set. | |
| So this starts by them talking about Ted Gunderson, who's apparently an FBI guy who may or may not have been poisoned. | ||
| Ted Gunderson? | ||
| I would poison anybody with that name, period. | ||
| It's like out of a bad script. | ||
| Oh, did you meet Ted Gunderson? | ||
| No, I poisoned him because that name exists. | ||
| It's like a name you'd see in a script where we'd be like, we'll come back on this. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, exactly. | ||
| We gotta get punch-up going on here. | ||
| Poison, I'm not allowed to get into it. | ||
| They poisoned three other people. | ||
| And he was in the FBI for 27 years. | ||
| He was the head of California. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And you could... | ||
| I am the head of California. | ||
| Also, I fucking love that, like, I'm not allowed to talk about this, but they poisoned three more people. | ||
| Well, he's not allowed to talk about it. | ||
| You just did! | ||
| It's classified information! | ||
| You 100% just did. | ||
| I mean, you're allowed to say that three more people just got poisoned, but do you know what's crazy? | ||
| That's always true. | ||
| You know... | ||
| Every... | ||
| This is a true statistic. | ||
| Three people have been poisoned. | ||
| Every time that Alex Jones says three more people have been poisoned... | ||
| Three more people have been poisoned. | ||
| Could be accidental poisonings, overdoses. | ||
| Just statistically impossible not to be true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I think a smarter way for Alex to say things would be, I can't get into the details, but. | ||
| And then say a generalized, broad statement. | ||
| As opposed to, I can't talk about this, but. | ||
| And then saying the exact same thing. | ||
| Yeah, but it's more fun if he does it that way. | ||
| But it makes him look like an asshole. | ||
| He is an asshole. | ||
| Fair point. | ||
| There's many videos of Ted Gunderson, former FBI chief, talking about not only the gigantic pedophile ring that's going on nationally and internationally, but he was talking about the Satanism that's involved as well. | ||
| Well, that's the deal. | ||
| You're crazy for talking about that. | ||
| Look, a regular gang, whether it's white supremacists or Mexican gang, you've got to go rob a liquor store. | ||
| You've got to hit an old lady in the head with a gun. | ||
| You've got to shoot somebody. | ||
| You've got to kill a rival gang member. | ||
| Those are rituals. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Earn your bones. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, I earned my bones when you were with cheerleaders, you know, from The Godfather, from Shub. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Again, all you know is movies. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Your knowledge of gangs is all movies or whatever. | ||
| And The Godfather, Mario Cuso, right, was the name of the guy who wrote that? | ||
| He was widely discredited. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He made all that shit up. | ||
| All that shit up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That stuff is not accurate to gangs or mafia life at all. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So even... | ||
| Even Alex Jones' fake source was also lying about... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Which is to be expected. | ||
| It is a piece of... | ||
| We're three levels deep on lies. | ||
| But The Godfather is a piece of fiction. | ||
| Yeah, and it's a great one. | ||
| But purporting it as reflecting reality is cockamamie. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| Anyway, it gets worse. | ||
| That's not enough. | ||
| That's just showing you'll kill somebody and they got dirt on you. | ||
| You've got to hurt kids, and it's not just molest them. | ||
| That's going to be an out of context. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good one. | ||
| You've got to hurt kids. | ||
| And I'm not just talking about molesting. | ||
| So here we go. | ||
| The highest levels, they kill them. | ||
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And they do something about baby blood, right? | |
| Well, they terrorize the kid, then they drain their blood off while they pump all their hormones out. | ||
| And then they drink all the adrenaline and the essence. | ||
| Who builds that machine? | ||
| Alex Jones. | ||
| That's a very specific engineering requirement there. | ||
| Oh, Alex Jones. | ||
| Someone's at the door. | ||
| Don't do it. | ||
| You busted. | ||
| Don't! | ||
| No! | ||
| So, what he's talking about there is something that... | ||
| Came across in conspiracy blogs. | ||
| That's the only way he could have ever come across this information. | ||
| Okay, so they kill kids. | ||
| Yes, but they have to terrorize them and rape them first in order to get their adrenaline levels high. | ||
| You could just do that with... | ||
| I mean, like, have them run. | ||
| You could do that. | ||
| Just get a treadmill. | ||
| Scary movies? | ||
| Have them run, yeah. | ||
| You don't have to terrorize and abuse them. | ||
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No. | |
| We're going to see who can run a mile the fastest. | ||
| That's a really great way of doing it. | ||
| Just do that. | ||
| Do you have any more questions? | ||
| Why am I giving advice to some random-ass pedophile rink? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Some hypothetical pedophile rink. | ||
| Guys, let's sit down and let's rework this whole plan. | ||
| So, on the conspiracy boards... | ||
| This narrative came up to explain Pizzagate and these organizations. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What they do is that they torture and terrorize these kids, then kill them and drink their blood because the adrenaline, as it's called, adrenochrome, will have been released. | ||
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What? | |
| Who? | ||
| What bullshit made up nonsense word is that? | ||
| It is a real thing. | ||
| Adrenochrome? | ||
| Adrenochrome. | ||
| It is a chemical compound with a molecular formula C9H9NO3. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Paul Simon wrote a song about it. | ||
| Adrenochrome. | ||
| It's produced by the oxidation of adrenaline. | ||
| The derivative, who cares about the rest of this wacky information about... | ||
| Chemistry that we're not going to be able to understand. | ||
| Oxidization of adrenaline. | ||
| Adrenochrome is mentioned in The Doors of Perception by Aldous Huxley as a product of the decomposition of adrenaline that can produce many of the symptoms observed in mescaline intoxication. | ||
| Also, author Hunter S. Thompson mentions adrenochrome in his book Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas. | ||
| The adrenochrome scene also appears in the novel's film adaptation. | ||
| So basically it's something that's referenced in fiction a bit by hallucinogen liars. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Hunter S. Thompson. | ||
| Bad journalist. | ||
| No! | ||
| Good writer, bad journalist. | ||
| Great writer. | ||
| Terrible journalist. | ||
| He made shit up half the time. | ||
| So, the first thing I want to point out is that... | ||
| Is there any evidence anybody's ever done adrenochrome? | ||
| We're going to get to it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So, the first thing... | ||
| Why do I even ask? | ||
| I know you've got me covered here. | ||
| I know you've got me covered. | ||
| I trust you. | ||
| I appreciate your attempt to lead me, but there's a point that I need to make first. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There are, quote-unquote, Pizzagate researchers. | ||
| Who just throw whatever they can at the wall and see what sticks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And one of the things that they came out with was a completely unsubstantiated, unverified, unsourced theory about adrenochrome being what the killing of the kids was all about. | ||
| And it was because adrenochrome, if you've never done drugs, you might think that it creates a crazy hallucinogenic euphoric state. | ||
| And it sounds like it might. | ||
| Because if it's something that you could only get by drinking kids' blood, then it seems like that better be a great high. | ||
| It better be really good. | ||
| Now there's a couple problems. | ||
| Otherwise, you could just, like, do some coke. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Like, that would be fine. | ||
| That's still illegal. | ||
| That's euphoric. | ||
| That's still illegal. | ||
| Like, you could just do a... | ||
| You don't even have to do a pedophile ring. | ||
| Just get pictures of everybody doing coke. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| That would be fine. | ||
| That would accomplish the goal. | ||
| And then you earn your bones. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| That's all you gotta do. | ||
| These theories are widely discredited. | ||
| Oh, I can't imagine how. | ||
| Even most of the people in the Pizzagate world don't look at this as valid. | ||
| Yeah, because it's dumb. | ||
| I'm gonna get to why. | ||
| First, before we get to why, because this is a real you busted moment. | ||
| You have a Cheshire grin. | ||
| I love that you hate that name for the segment, so that's why I'm going to keep it around. | ||
| You bastard. | ||
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So... | |
| When Alex was talking about Pizzagate on the Joe Rogan show, he brought up, like, vampirism and stuff like that. | ||
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Right. | |
| But he's like, it's a spiritual vampirism. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Now you're literally talking about vampirism. | ||
| That's literal vampirism. | ||
| You're talking about vampires. | ||
| Well, vampires drink blood. | ||
| These guys are drinking adrenochrome. | ||
| Through the blood. | ||
| That's spiritual vampirism. | ||
| I don't think that there is a machine that allows you to extract the adrenochrome from blood. | ||
| All right. | ||
| So, you got the kid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Right? | |
| You terrorized him. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| He's all ripe. | ||
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Uh-huh. | |
| You put him on the machine. | ||
| If we're going to entertain this theory, what kind of machine are we talking about? | ||
| Is it going to look like an MRI machine? | ||
| I'm picturing it being like the clockwork orange chair. | ||
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Okay. | |
| See, I saw the Spanish Inquisition. | ||
| They got him on the rack. | ||
| That whole thing, right? | ||
| You're probably more right than me. | ||
| It creates more surface area. | ||
| In terms of this completely fictitious nonsense, you're absolutely right. | ||
| I am correct. | ||
| And then you... | ||
| Do you slowly drain the blood, or do you gotta do it fast? | ||
| You probably would have to do it fast, because adrenaline would deplete. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So now you got all the adrenaline in the blood, which you would not have gotten unless the kid were terrified. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| You couldn't just go in and get their fucking adrenal glands. | ||
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Nope. | |
| You gotta get it from the blood. | ||
| Or take an epi shot. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
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Or something like that. | |
| Or just watch the movie Pulp Fiction. | ||
| They have adrenaline and fucking... | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Here's the deal. | ||
| The deal is this is dumb and they made it up and it's fucking... | ||
| Adrenaline can be synthesized in other ways than through blood. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You can get the exact same chemical compounds in different ways. | ||
| Cheaper. | ||
| Much cheaper and you don't have to kill kids. | ||
| You don't even have to kill one kid. | ||
| It's not even like we're reducing the number of children killed with chemistry. | ||
| No, it's just like getting rid of all the children killing. | ||
| So there's a lot of websites where people do trip reports, where they take substances and then they report back on what the experience was like. | ||
| Because thank God for the internet. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I found a number of them where people took adrenochrome. | ||
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Oh yeah! | |
| And they are universally... | ||
| This is not a good buzz. | ||
| Not that it's a bad buzz, but that if you didn't know that you were taking something, the effects are so mild that you would not really even know that you're tripping on anything. | ||
| You wouldn't know that you'd taken a substance unless you knew. | ||
| You couldn't be dosed with it, I guess is what I'm saying. | ||
| So there's really no high, then? | ||
| If you couldn't know there was a high, if... | ||
| You didn't know you were high. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or it's just so mild that it could be a flu symptom. | ||
| Yeah, like that's the junior higher smoking oregano. | ||
| Like, I'm so fucked up, man. | ||
| Like that whole thing. | ||
| Basically, yeah. | ||
| There's a psychosomatic high to it. | ||
| Yeah, that's what it sounds like. | ||
| So then I looked into it a little bit deeper, because I thought, well, maybe this guy on this trip report was taking a low dose. | ||
| Maybe that's a thing where if you take a bunch, it's... | ||
| Maybe he only took a quarter of a kid when you need to take a half. | ||
| It's like with edibles. | ||
| You've got to make sure you get the dosage right, and every one is different. | ||
| And you've got to know who sold you that kid. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because some people give you... | ||
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Some people try to give you... | |
| You've got to research your kid dealer. | ||
| Because some kids are really hard to scare. | ||
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And that's going to really cut into your time. | |
| You don't want to get one of these brave kids get a bad buzz. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I think it's the opposite. | ||
| You want to get a really brave kid because then you'll gain his strength? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| My computer crashed and I lost the Word document that I had that had all these calculations. | ||
| But I'll redo it. | ||
| I'm just going to be a little bit vague with the numbers because I don't have all the specifics. | ||
| I found... | ||
| The amount of adrenochrome your body can produce. | ||
| Your maximum level. | ||
| Because you can't just create... | ||
| Ingrown man or child? | ||
| Child. | ||
| Child. | ||
| I think I went with a 10-year-old as sort of a midline. | ||
| That's a reasonable. | ||
| The amount that a 10-year-old child could create in their body is the equivalent of nothing, basically. | ||
| So if you were to kill that kid, drain all of his blood. | ||
| And then take the adrenochrome out of it, you would need to kill, I think, 300 kids in order to get enough for that bad buzz that that guy on that trip reported. | ||
| No wonder they needed an entire pizza restaurant. | ||
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That's the only thing that makes sense. | |
| They needed at least two or three Chuck E. Cheeses operating at the same time in order to get that. | ||
| Can we just stop and think for just one moment how surreal this entire fucking conversation is right now? | ||
| It's bizarre. | ||
| I never in my life... | ||
| Thought I would get to a point where somebody told me exactly how much adrenochrome you could drain from a child's blood. | ||
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And then... | |
| That is the weirdest fucking thing. | ||
| And this is how crazy the times are right now? | ||
| I was listening to you for like 10 minutes going, you're like, oh, this is interesting. | ||
| Let's see how this goes. | ||
| We live in an insane world where that's the least crazy thing I've heard today. | ||
| Well, that's why it's important that we embrace this craziness and just like... | ||
| Follow you down the rabbit hole of how much blood? | ||
| It's easy to get really horrified and shocked because abuses of children is a real thing, and it's horrible. | ||
| It's awful that it goes on. | ||
| And it would be easy to be like, I don't want to, this is awful, or succumb to horror when looking at these sort of topics. | ||
| The perspective that I'm coming from is they're not drinking these kids' blood. | ||
| This isn't happening. | ||
| How is that a question that we would have to answer? | ||
| Clearly, Alex Jones is fucking talking about it, so someone believes it. | ||
| That's crazy! | ||
| And all these blogs were pitching this as a rationalization for it, so, I mean, it's not like no one believes it. | ||
| Right, right, right. | ||
| But then, the idea, the very idea that in order to get a weak, mild, bad buzz, you'd need to kill 300 kids, makes this... | ||
| The stupidest fucking thing in the world. | ||
| Counterpoint! | ||
| Alright? | ||
| Globalists have been around, according to Alex, for hundreds of years. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Perhaps they have evolved separately from the human race in order to process adrenochrome at a much more efficient rate than your calculations would suggest. | ||
| Now it's game over. | ||
| I mean, if you're going to say that, then yeah, okay. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
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Great, okay. | |
| Now it's Dan Friesen, you bust. | ||
| Now the difference is that I found science, and you're speculating about an alien race. | ||
| And I founded creationism just there. | ||
| I believe that's what I did, right? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| So yeah, Alex is an idiot. | ||
| He really does believe that. | ||
| Sort of thing. | ||
| And the idea of it being a metaphorical psychic vampire... | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He can't fall back on that. | ||
| No, there's no hiding behind fakeness there. | ||
| Can you imagine how hard it would be to drink the blood that's contained in one person, let alone 300? | ||
| No! | ||
| I can't imagine that! | ||
| That's not a thing I can imagine, because I don't even know... | ||
| I don't want to know how hard it is to just drink a glass of human blood. | ||
| I don't think you can. | ||
| I think it has, like, Ipecac-type qualities. | ||
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Yeah! | |
| Like, you end up throwing up. | ||
| At the very least, it would bum you out real hard. | ||
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Yep. | |
| So, that is, you know... | ||
| Great, Eddie Bravo was able to pull that out of him. | ||
| I really appreciate that, even though I think he... | ||
| I think... | ||
| Eddie Bravo, stealth hero. | ||
| I don't think that Eddie realized how stupid what Alex was saying was, because he doesn't call him out on it. | ||
| I don't think Eddie realizes how stupid what he's saying is. | ||
| Yeah, he does get to one point where, again, Eddie is going to be a hero. | ||
| But here we go. | ||
| I love Eddie Bravo as the accidental hero of every one of these things we do. | ||
| Anytime Eddie Bravo shows up, he's like Mr. Magoo. | ||
| That's what Eddie Bravo is to me. | ||
| He's blind, stumbling around, and just makes it through just fine. | ||
| Also, little known fact, a little trivia, Eddie Bravo is married to a coat rack. | ||
| And we're not allowed to give you this on Facebook. | ||
| I was so expecting Nazi stripper and instead you got me. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I got busted. | ||
| You busted. | ||
| And we're not allowed to give you this on Facebook. | ||
| Because this is fake? | ||
| No, because we told you 12 years ago they were using cameras on your computer to watch you? | ||
| It's because we're on target. | ||
| So he had a couple things that he posted on Facebook that were taken down. | ||
| And I'm not sure the details of it. | ||
| It could be a false flag thing getting erased, like he did it to himself. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That makes as much sense as anything else. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's using it as a really harsh example of censorship. | ||
| And as the details emerge, we'll assess it as, you know... | ||
| As is our... | ||
| Stated objective? | ||
| Once there are more facts, be able to deal with this. | ||
| Once we have a better chemical composition of what he's saying. | ||
| But he takes it as like, look, they're saying that they're censoring us because we're liars and fake. | ||
| The truth is they're censoring us because we're too right. | ||
| We're too... | ||
| Now he gets back to how he talks to Trump on the phone. | ||
| Folks, you think the President of the United States just calls regular people? | ||
| You think... | ||
| Nobody takes calls from regular people at 2am. | ||
| I mean, I'm not gonna... | ||
| We have to get back to this, because... | ||
| Sorry. | ||
| He fucking loses his train of thought so hard. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| You think the heads of... | ||
| I mean, I'm not gonna... | ||
| I shouldn't even get into all this. | ||
| Why couldn't he just have said the heads of state? | ||
| Like, that's what he was getting to. | ||
| Because he's not even gonna get involved with it. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| He knows the heads of state don't want him to reveal? | ||
| Something? | ||
| I guess. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| It's absolutely ridiculous, but not as ridiculous as this next clip, where Eddie Bravo... | ||
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Bravo, Eddie. | |
| Fucking... | ||
| What are you doing to me? | ||
| That's our new segment. | ||
| What are you doing to me? | ||
| Eddie Bravo? | ||
| Bravo, Eddie. | ||
| Are we late 90s Conan? | ||
| What's happening right now? | ||
| We might be. | ||
| But in this one, Alex wants to talk about something, and Eddie brings up a topic that clearly Alex doesn't want to talk about. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I grew up and had some family that had been in covert action in the CIA, like killing people. | ||
| And all I'd ever heard was, you know, no, the government brings in the drugs, they kill people, you don't want to join them. | ||
| And so I had that view. | ||
| But over the years, the people inside that know all this now have the Internet, they have us, they have the people. | ||
| And so I've learned that, like, major SEAL teams, in fact, the most elite SEAL team, but Army, Delta Force, you name it, years ago, They would come in and order them to listen to InfoWars. | ||
| And I would hear this like, you know, 15 years ago and go, oh yeah, you're right. | ||
| I'm saying that now. | ||
| Yeah, they're telling Delta Force, listen to me, it's all confirmed now. | ||
| And so they said, there was no one else covering this. | ||
| They said, you listen to Alex Jones. | ||
| He knows what's going on. | ||
| And that's just a fact now. | ||
| You know, the media never runs with this because they go, what are you talking about with Trump? | ||
| Well, he talks about how the intelligence community really loves me. | ||
| So here we are saying, They're the enemy. | ||
| William Benny was the head of the NSA. | ||
| He actually ran it. | ||
| Not the director, but the technical head. | ||
| He's a patriot. | ||
| He comes on all the time. | ||
| They're the ones that exposed it, Eddie. | ||
| In fact, I was told by Pchenik, who was high-level CIA, used to run actual overthrow of governments. | ||
| He said, oh, the next month they're going to release even more on the CIA to discipline the top of the CIA. | ||
| He's talking about Steve Pchenik, who I brought up earlier. | ||
| He's a guy who comes on Alex's show with some regularity. | ||
| He's the guy... | ||
| He wasn't the director of the CIA. | ||
| No, it's William Benny. | ||
| He was the technical head. | ||
| Oh, Benny was the technical head. | ||
| Steve Pachenik was a psychologist, psychiatrist within the CIA. | ||
| And he's also the source of the counter-coup narrative that Alex has about how rogue CIA agents were running a silent, peaceful coup against Hillary Clinton. | ||
| And now they're trying to run the counter-counter coup. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| So that's where all that information comes from, from the wacky mouth of Steve Pchenik. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And this is where Eddie is about to show some real valor. | ||
| The CIA released that on the CIA. | ||
| Now, Dr. Steve Pchenik, totally legit, right? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
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High level? | |
| I mean, when he comes on the show, it's in, like, Italian newspapers, and then they send, like, you know... | ||
| FBI to his house and he's called before federal courts. | ||
| I don't understand. | ||
| When he releases stuff, they threaten him with national security arrest. | ||
| That's how real he is. | ||
| Dr. Steve Pachanek, and you got some heat for this. | ||
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This is kind of changing the subject a little bit. | |
| Dr. Steve Pachanek, on your show, said that no kids died at Sandy Hook. | ||
| That it was a homeland security drill that they passed off as a real event. | ||
| He says that. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Bravo, Eddie. | ||
| Oh, shit! | ||
| Bravo, Eddie! | ||
| He got in there and he brought that up. | ||
| Somebody's busted! | ||
| The thing is that if anybody else were to bring this up, Alex would scream at them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But because he's a star fucker, he's like, oh, we gotta discuss this. | ||
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Okay. | |
| And I've been hit really hard with it. | ||
| I can't prove it one way or the other. | ||
| I know it. | ||
| Yes, you can! | ||
| You can prove it one way or the other because one way is proved! | ||
| You can! | ||
| That's how you prove things! | ||
| But that's the most cowardly conspiracy theorist argument. | ||
| I can't prove it one way or the other. | ||
| That's so fucking lame. | ||
| That is a chicken neck thing to do. | ||
| Very chicken neck. | ||
| Anderson Cooper's standing up there and turns and his whole nose disappears. | ||
| I work in TV. | ||
| Why are you shitting on Anderson Cooper's nose? | ||
| What did Anderson Cooper's nose ever do to you? | ||
| Well, let me explain what he's talking about. | ||
| There is a video clip of Anderson Cooper covering Sandy Hook stuff, and it does appear that his nose disappears. | ||
| But their theory is that it's green-screened. | ||
| And that it's produced news. | ||
| Because his nose is green? | ||
| It doesn't work that way. | ||
| No, I don't know. | ||
| That's not how things work. | ||
| I've done some looking into it and trying to find arguments for why it... | ||
| For anything? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And everybody's like, oh yeah, it's proof. | ||
| Media's fake. | ||
| Everything's fake. | ||
| But then there's other people who are like, well, I work in video production, and that could just be, I believe what it was, it's called like a P. frame rate. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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And there are little technical glitches that can happen when you're recording. | |
| Okay. | ||
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And it's not evidence of a blue screen or anything. | |
| Yeah. | ||
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So stupid. | |
| And you should not use that as evidence. | ||
| The kids weren't killed at Sandy. | ||
| No. | ||
| Very lame conspiracy. | ||
| Again, you can prove it, one way or the other. | ||
| There's one way to prove it, the part that's already been proven. | ||
| Yeah, and listening to people's stories. | ||
| Yeah, Jesus fucking Christ. | ||
| I have one question about Sandy Hook. | ||
| The one question, the Tower 7 question is, why weren't the medevac helicopters? | ||
| The Chenic ran the operation to overthrow at least seven countries. | ||
| Change the subject. | ||
| That's not what we're talking about. | ||
| Not at all answering. | ||
| Just completely. | ||
| Because he doesn't want to talk about this. | ||
| He's very vulnerable. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because he's wrong. | ||
| He's very wrong. | ||
| And he even knows he's wrong at this point. | ||
| But he can't back down because if he does that one time, now he's got to back down on so many other little things. | ||
| It's important. | ||
| Again, that's the same. | ||
| He's a better strategist than our fucking president because that's the same thing that happened with Flynn. | ||
| They got one. | ||
| Now they're going to go after more. | ||
| Blood in the water. | ||
| So as long as he keeps fighting to just avoid it, instead of admit that he's wrong on anything, then he can keep on going. | ||
| And one of the things that's super interesting to keep track of and watch is the times that Alex changes the subject. | ||
| When it's super intentional like that, it's not like, oh, I just realized that Steve Pachenik helped overthrow governments. | ||
| It's not that. | ||
| He wants to get off this topic as quickly as possible. | ||
| And not draw attention to the fact that he's changing the subject. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He never gets back to it. | ||
| He doesn't answer his question. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, that's on record. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He co-wrote Tom Clancy's books. | ||
| He's the Jack Ryan character. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because that's because he used to be in covert action himself. | ||
| That's how he got into the CIA. | ||
| Here's a big secret about the CIA. | ||
| Like, they've got hit men that are like former special forces and stuff that are Army, Navy, Marine Corps. | ||
| You know, because you like graduate out of the SEALs and out of things into... | ||
| Into basically squads that are put in strategic locations around the country with sleeper cells. | ||
| And so that's basically what goes on. | ||
| But who they really have for assassins are doctors and psychiatrists. | ||
| And so a lot of these people you see that are doctors and psychiatrists and things that head up things that were all in the Navy or in the Army. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| We're back to Batman. | ||
| Of course! | ||
| Where else would you get... | ||
| What assassins from? | ||
| Doctors. | ||
| Psychiatrists. | ||
| Is he fucking L. Ron Hubbard? | ||
| What is goddamn happening right now? | ||
| Explains why he hangs out with John Rappaport. | ||
| What kind of... | ||
| Dr. Prochenek, psychiatrist, is the basis for Jack Ryan because he's been in covert action. | ||
| I don't even want to unpack that. | ||
| Is there any possibility that's true? | ||
| We don't have time to unpack that, and I don't care. | ||
| It's such a side issue. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| He's that good! | ||
| What are you forgetting about Sandy Hook bullshit? | ||
| Anyway, also, I think he's snitching a little bit. | ||
| He's telling tales about the CIA that maybe they wouldn't want out. | ||
| Also, it's fine because it's not true. | ||
| Well, I mean, they have overthrown at least seven or eight governments, so we do know that is true. | ||
| We have two more clips before we get out of here. | ||
| I'm just going to talk about one of them, and I'm going to play the last one. | ||
| He talks about how he's sick and fed up with this fucking pope. | ||
| Oh, that goddamn pope! | ||
| Because he claims that the Pope said that Muslim terrorism doesn't exist. | ||
| He goes back to this a lot. | ||
| And I've actually pulled up the speech that that's from. | ||
| And it's actually really great. | ||
| It's actually a beautiful sentiment that the Pope was making that Alex is twisting. | ||
| Here's a quote from the Pope. | ||
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A Pope quote. | |
| He was talking about points he wants to make. | ||
| The other is a reflection that I shared at our most recent world meeting of popular movements. | ||
| And I feel it is important to say it again. | ||
| No people is criminal and no religion is terrorist. | ||
| Christian terrorism does not exist. | ||
| Jewish terrorism does not exist. | ||
| And Muslim terrorism does not exist. | ||
| They do not exist. | ||
| No people is criminal or drug trafficking or violent. | ||
| He's essentially saying that the identification is bad. | ||
| It's the people who are doing bad things as opposed to... | ||
| Now, that's a smart thing for him to say because then he never has to deal with Ireland. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He goes on to say, the grave danger is to disown our neighbors. | ||
| When we do so, we deny their humanity and our own humanity without realizing it. | ||
| We deny ourselves and we deny the most important commandments of Jesus. | ||
| Herein lies the danger, the dehumanization. | ||
| But here we also find an opportunity. | ||
| That the light of the love of neighbor may illuminate the earth with its stunning brightness, like a lightning bolt in the dark. | ||
| That it may wake us up and let true humanity burst through with authentic resistance, resilience, and persistence. | ||
| That's a beautiful thought. | ||
| That is a beautiful thought. | ||
| And fuck you, Alex, for twisting that into claiming that there isn't, there aren't people who are Muslims who do terrorism. | ||
| That's not the point he's making. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're a fucking asshole, Alex. | ||
| Anyway, here's the last clip. | ||
| This is Eddie Bravo. | ||
| I should tell you this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Along with Eddie's in-studio appearance, they also posted an hour-long video of him at dinner with Owen Schroyer. | ||
| Eddie and Owen Troyer at dinner. | ||
| They go to a restaurant. | ||
| And they just do that for an hour. | ||
| They argue. | ||
| But anyway, here's the clip. | ||
| It's just crazy. | ||
| But listen, I'm going to get into all this other stuff. | ||
| Go, because you're too humble. | ||
| They've got to see the wild Eddie Bravo. | ||
| Too humble. | ||
| It goes from absolutely ridiculous to absolute genius. | ||
| Go do an hour interview, and I've got to catch your plane, with one of the great reporters back there so we can actually hear Eddie Bravo unchained. | ||
| Eddie Bravo unchained is what they want, and so they do. | ||
| They go to dinner. | ||
| I was going to make a super cut of all of the stupid shit that they talk about, but I couldn't. | ||
| It would take way too long. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They talk about Flat Earth. | ||
| He insists that there's an ice wall that... | ||
| Game of Thrones. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that there's something on the other side of this ice wall. | ||
| But we can't know what it is. | ||
| Well, someone knows. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| And we can't get over there. | ||
| It's too tall! | ||
| Hey, guess what? | ||
| If that's true, whoever's on the other side is also in on the conspiracy because they haven't come over here. | ||
| Fucking retarded. | ||
| So, I apologize for the use of that term. | ||
| But also, he says that nuclear weapons aren't real. | ||
| Ooh, that's a new one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Eddie Bravo believes some batshit stuff. | ||
| Dinosaurs are fake. | ||
| We got more into this. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Did you know that every dinosaur bone at museums are fake? | ||
| Now, that doesn't mean dinosaurs are fake. | ||
| They're all replicas. | ||
| That just means that the bones themselves are fake. | ||
| Dinosaur bones are fake? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So anyway, I wanted to make a supercut. | ||
| Where do you even hear that? | ||
| Stupid blogs. | ||
| I'm sure. | ||
| Anyway, this clip that I did pull really sums it up. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So this just, let this underlie all of his arguments. | ||
| Someone could tell me some shit. | ||
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Do you know that they fuck you with me this way? | |
| I'm like, how? | ||
| What's the reason? | ||
| Oh, that money? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I don't even need to do the fucking research. | ||
| I don't even need the evidence. | ||
| I just, it's probably true. | ||
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There's a chance that it isn't because I didn't look into it, but I trust you. | |
| You're a smart guy. | ||
| You looked into it. | ||
| You explained it to me. | ||
| That's an Infowars fan. | ||
| Fuck you, Eddie Bravo! | ||
| I don't need to do the research. | ||
| I don't need to do it. | ||
| It's probably true. | ||
| There's a chance it isn't because I didn't look into it. | ||
| Great. | ||
| That is fucking genius. | ||
| Yeah, well done, Eddie. | ||
| I can't... | ||
| That's... | ||
| God, he just summed up the entire Alex Jones show so well. | ||
| You said it. | ||
| You researched it. | ||
| It's probably true. | ||
| This is probably true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And if it's not, maybe it's not. | ||
| I didn't look into it. | ||
| That's intellectually offensive. | ||
| It's... | ||
| And it's just so fucking... | ||
| It's like the guy who doesn't try because if you fail... | ||
| And you don't try. | ||
| You just, you know, I didn't try. | ||
| And if you succeed, I'm a genius. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, I didn't even have to try. | ||
| I was so good. | ||
| You're describing my college career. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| So Eddie Bravo's like, hey, it's probably true. | ||
| I didn't look into it. | ||
| If I'm wrong... | ||
| Well, I mean, I didn't look into it. | ||
| All you do is take away any semblance of stakes. | ||
| Any personal responsibility whatsoever. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So that brings us to the end of this adventure through Alex Jones' star fuckery and a little bit of Monday's episode. | ||
| We'll be back soon. | ||
| I think we may go maybe more into... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Who knows what we'll do next time. | ||
| We'll see what we do next time, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| But this has been fun, Jordan. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You can follow us on Twitter at... | ||
| Knowledge underscore fight. | ||
| You can look us up on iTunes, subscribe, leave reviews. | ||
| We appreciate it. | ||
| It's super fun. | ||
| And then if you're the NSA, or just anybody who's nice, please email us, knowledgefight at gmail.com. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And we will have a form, just a regular template, which will say, do you like us? | ||
| Yes or no? | ||
| Yeah, and feel free to circle one. | ||
| Also, no interest in these shirts. | ||
| They're a good shirt. | ||
| I think the interest is implied. | ||
| Some people probably want them, but they have not been vocalizing it. | ||
| So everyone out there, thanks for that. | ||
| Thanks for that. | ||
| We'll be back soon, but until then, we're just a couple of goddamn policy wonks. | ||
| We're a couple of policy wonks. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
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I'm a huge fan. | |
| I love your work. |