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March 6, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#19: March 3, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened on the March 3, 2017 episode of the Alex Jones Show. Topics include: Is it actually legal to be selling gun parts through a radio show? Is Obama "Robin Hooding" billions to "cop-killing groups?" Is 90% or more of crime just made up by people who want attention? Why are the Chicken-Necks so damned arrogant?

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alex jones
29:11
d
dan friesen
01:04:19
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jordan holmes
42:00
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darrin mcbreen
03:31
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david knight
00:18
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alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
You heard up top the sound of a cork popping.
Ladies and gentlemen, today we are drinking some champagne.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Cheers to the globalists.
jordan holmes
It's a shit show celebration today.
dan friesen
We're drinking...
It's a mild celebration because...
The thing, the trends that we're seeing are going exactly the direction we expected.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
On our last episode, our little mini episode we recorded, I speculated that Friday would be a complete breakdown for Alex.
jordan holmes
And?
dan friesen
My prediction came true!
jordan holmes
Wonderful!
dan friesen
So, I want to give a little bit of...
Oh, wait, we should explain the show.
jordan holmes
Uh, okay.
I mean, if we have to.
dan friesen
You don't know anything about Infowars.
jordan holmes
I don't know goddamn anything!
dan friesen
But...
I know a lot about InfoWars.
jordan holmes
You listen to too much InfoWars.
dan friesen
One day we're going to figure out how to do this smoothly.
Anyway, the show is me explaining what's happened in InfoWars in one day in the life of Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I think what happened is we're just really excited to get to this.
dan friesen
Pumped.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Very pumped.
So, we're covering today, Friday, March 3rd.
In the life of Alex Jones.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
And what's happening in the greater world outside of him is that everything that he's said is coming out to be not accurate.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And all of these allies that he had built up around himself are about to go to jail.
They're getting fucked.
So, like, he can't address these things head on.
He can't talk about the session stuff.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Except to say...
He was doing his job and shit like that.
He can't address the fact that Sessions met with this Russian ambassador in Cleveland at the RNC.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And he traveled there.
jordan holmes
Was he not there?
dan friesen
Sessions had traveled there using funds from the Trump campaign.
jordan holmes
That's right, I saw that!
Which is legally a great idea.
dan friesen
He's legally there in the capacity as a Trump surrogate.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So the argument that he was a senator in the armed service, he can't address that because there's no wiggle room there.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
All gone.
dan friesen
He can't address the Kushner situation with, why the fuck was your son-in-law in a meeting with Flynn and the Russian ambassador?
jordan holmes
And that's, you can't even address...
That's such a large question to me, because the whole, like, why the fuck is your son-in-law anywhere near this anyway?
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
Yeah, get him the fuck out of here.
dan friesen
He's gonna solve the Israel-Palestine conflict.
jordan holmes
Yeah, sure, sure.
dan friesen
He can't address the Kushner situation.
He can't address Carter Page.
jordan holmes
He can't address- Because Carter Page is fucking batshit.
Have you watched his tour?
unidentified
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
Oh, he may actually be a deer in headlights, like a literal deer.
dan friesen
He was on one of those news shows, I think it was on MSNBC, and he was talking about- He's like, I will not deny that I met the ambassador.
Meanwhile, he's smiling like the cat that ate the canary.
He is a man with a secret.
But it's not a great secret because most people know what it is.
jordan holmes
He's being set up to be the fall guy, I think.
dan friesen
I don't know about that.
I think he might be in a better situation than a lot of these other big dogs.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
dan friesen
I think that he might be able to pull it off and get away with a lot of money and run away somewhere.
I think a lot of these other folks are not going to be able to evade.
jordan holmes
So we're saying that Carter Page is our Kaiser Sosa.
That's what you're saying right there.
dan friesen
Possibly.
jordan holmes
He looks kind of like Kevin Spacey.
dan friesen
A little bit.
Alex Jones also cannot address the issues with Manafort.
And Ukraine.
He can't address the suspicious timing about the GOP softening its position on Ukraine.
jordan holmes
It wasn't suspicious.
He literally said, they said that Trump himself said we need to soften our stance on the Ukraine.
dan friesen
No, but the timing in terms of how it matches up with these meetings with Russians.
jordan holmes
Oh yeah, no, he can't talk about that.
dan friesen
Can't address any of that shit.
So instead, he goes buck wild and...
Turbo lie mode.
He starts throwing buckshot everywhere.
And to that extent, this episode, I had such a hard time getting an order for the clips to go in.
So we might end up hitting A, then B, then back to A, and then C. It's going to be a little bit scattershot in terms of...
jordan holmes
I think that should be representative of what it is that you listen to.
I think that's exactly how this should go.
The listeners should get a taste of what it's like.
To see Alex Jones have a complete and utter meltdown.
dan friesen
I unfortunately don't have these in chronological order of the show, and it's something that I'm starting to learn, is that fucking the first hour of Alex Jones is usually boring as shit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He gets good in the second hour, and that's what I learned, especially, like, this episode is very indicative of that.
So a lot of the stuff we're gonna end up hearing is from the second hour.
First hour is super boring.
But let's start with...
jordan holmes
He's gotta warm up.
dan friesen
Yeah, and speaking of warming up, let's warm ourselves up with a little out-of-context drop from Alex.
alex jones
The globalists are openly manipulating our DNA.
They're giving us cancer.
They're poisoning us.
They write books about it.
They write documents about it.
They're super uncool.
unidentified
I love it.
dan friesen
I just love that.
unidentified
They're so uncool.
jordan holmes
That's a new segment on this, isn't it?
You're just going to find one drop every episode.
dan friesen
I have a second one.
jordan holmes
Oh, you got a second one?
dan friesen
Let's just go ahead and drop this one out here, too.
alex jones
I hate stupid liberals!
They're so ignorant, they don't know anything!
dan friesen
Fuck those stupid liberals.
jordan holmes
I think you should cut it at, I hate stupid liberals!
He sounds like a five-year-old.
dan friesen
He does, he does.
So, one of the big lies that he throws out is breaking news about Obama and how he used the Department of Justice to steal billions of dollars to give to activist groups.
Breaking news.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
We'll get into it after the clip.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
Here's his narrative.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
What I'm about to get to.
It's worse than we thought.
We knew the Justice Department got caught in Florida with Justice Department high-level operatives in emails on the ground trying to cause riots and trying to stir up the Trayvon Martin tragedy.
To create the whole racial division that we now saw peak in the last year.
But ladies and gentlemen, Fox News is reporting and they've got the documents.
jordan holmes
White papers.
alex jones
This is so illegal.
jordan holmes
So illegal.
dan friesen
They don't have the documents, but they are reporting it.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, that's a very solid Fox News move.
dan friesen
I tried to hunt down, like, I tried to dig as deep as I could following the links that they provide in the stories.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it never really ended up getting anywhere substantial.
But I'll get here.
Let's finish this clip and then I'll get to why.
jordan holmes
You're so giddy.
dan friesen
I am.
jordan holmes
You're so excited.
dan friesen
You know why?
I'm a policy walk.
jordan holmes
You are a policy walk.
alex jones
Obama transferred billions of dollars through Eric Holder and the Department of Justice.
We're getting the video report right now.
Post this video report to Infowars.com right now, guys.
Infowars.com.
Post it to our site.
Tweet it out right now.
Obama DOJ funded billions to liberal activist groups.
We're going to play this clip in a moment.
Billions of dollars.
That is so illegal to have the Justice Department give money to groups secretly, period, political groups, to have the government funding its own party, the party in power funding its own party, and then to give it to activist groups that are running around saying kill cops and overthrow government.
This is the government forming sedition against local and state governments to cause a civil war.
jordan holmes
Is any of that true?
alex jones
And it ties in with everything I covered yesterday.
Holder foretells the return of Obama.
jordan holmes
Like, not even a little, not even a little kernel there?
dan friesen
There's maybe a kernel.
He's got, he goes into some more fear-mongering about Obama's coming back.
jordan holmes
Right, no, I'm excited to hear about that.
dan friesen
But, just to break this down, what he's talking about is, he's acting like this is breaking news, and it's not.
jordan holmes
It can't possibly be.
You don't just lose billions of dollars until a year after your presidency.
dan friesen
There's an article that I found on Breitbart about this from 2015.
jordan holmes
Solid news source.
dan friesen
But it's also two years old.
Yeah.
He's coming out with this now and making it sound like the biggest deal in the world.
jordan holmes
It's breaking news.
dan friesen
Because he's fucked.
jordan holmes
Well, it's worse than we thought even then.
dan friesen
No, it's exactly the same story.
jordan holmes
It's exactly what we thought.
dan friesen
It's exactly the same story.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's worse.
Nope, that's exactly what we thought.
dan friesen
He even references the Bank of America and, what's the other one, Citibank?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
They had to pay out a bunch of money?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He even references those, and those are the situation in the article from Breitbart.
But so, what he's talking about, and I actually do think it's a little bit weird, but it's definitely not illegal.
One of the things is when the government sues an organization for malfeasance or some sort of shady business practices, when they get payouts, it doesn't go to the government.
Usually the payouts or fines that are enforced end up having to be donated to charitable causes or things like that.
jordan holmes
Oh, I did not know that.
dan friesen
It's not universal across the board.
It's not how all of the payout goes when you lose against the government.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But in instances, and it's not that...
This money is going to radical liberal activist groups.
jordan holmes
The ones shouting kill cops?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Which ones are those again?
Can we get a name on...
dan friesen
He thinks it's Black Lives Matter.
jordan holmes
Right, but did they ever say kill cops?
dan friesen
Maybe some of the harshest fringe parts of it, but that's not what the group is about.
You know, to say that is wildly irresponsible.
jordan holmes
It's horrifying.
And it's very, very racist.
dan friesen
In this article, what I've been able to dig up, essentially, the types of groups that are getting money are like the HUD Housing Council.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
Which is great.
jordan holmes
They should get money.
dan friesen
Especially when housing is part of the issue that these banks are fucking with.
jordan holmes
It's a huge part of it.
dan friesen
People foreclosing on their homes and shit like that.
jordan holmes
Against the law.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Which is why they got sued successfully.
dan friesen
And why some of that money ends up going to...
In this case, it was $30 million that year of the money that was from Citibank and Bank of America go to the HUD, the Housing and Urban Development Housing Council.
jordan holmes
Shouldn't the money just go directly to the people that they stole it from?
dan friesen
Yeah, but it can't, as I understand it, now I'm no legal wonk, but as I understand it, it can't go directly to the people because the people have no standing in court.
They aren't the ones who are suing these organizations.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't like that.
dan friesen
I don't either, and that's why I said it's a little bit murky.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There should be, like, these people should have victim status and have standing in court.
jordan holmes
Oh, for sure.
dan friesen
But they don't in this case, and so the money ends up going to groups like the Housing Council or the other one was the Legal Services Corporation, which helps provide legal services to underprivileged people.
jordan holmes
I would also prefer a more ironic punishment as opposed to just a monetary settlement.
dan friesen
Buy everyone homes?
jordan holmes
Yeah, or, you know, like...
Like, hey, Bank of America, they get your houses now.
Like, half of your banks, they live there now.
dan friesen
Now 60 poor people get to live in your mansion.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Exactly.
That's how I want it to work.
dan friesen
You want, like, game show justice.
jordan holmes
I want game show justice.
dan friesen
So, but anyway.
jordan holmes
That's the second part of this show that we're going to do eventually.
dan friesen
You get what I'm saying, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
His big story is a non-story.
He's lying about what it's about.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And it's a story that broke on conservative paranoia blogs.
A year and a half ago.
Yeah, because I think it was late 2015.
But it's like a year and a half old.
It's not news, it's not real, and it's not true.
jordan holmes
But it's a great distraction.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Because nobody's paid attention to that.
Nobody paid attention to it when it did happen because it was a non-story then.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
So you bring it up now and it's like, whoa, we've got this bombshell that nobody cared about, nobody cares about, and nobody will ever care about.
dan friesen
And hopefully by the time that this episode comes out, I will have put up a website for us.
I'm in the middle of working on it.
And when I do, what I'm going to do is for every episode, I'm going to provide links to all of the documentation of the things that debunk what he's saying.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because I think that people could hear us and be like, why should I believe you?
And that's totally fair.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that is fair.
dan friesen
If you don't want to believe me, that's totally fair.
jordan holmes
We could be making up most of this.
I'm not.
You are somebody who watches a lot of Alex Jones.
And you are what you pretend to be.
I believe that's how that works.
dan friesen
It's true.
He's my mentor.
All right, let's finish this clip.
He talks some fear tactics about Obama here.
It smacks a tiny bit racist, but not super, so I'm going to give him a pass on it.
alex jones
He's coming, and he's ready to roll.
jordan holmes
Fuck yeah.
alex jones
This is announced in Politico, the New York Times, you name it, like he's God.
Obama's goal to oust Trump from presidency via impeachment or resignation.
Mounting insurgency.
Paul Joseph Watson quotes the Daily Mail reports and the New York Times with them admitting they leaked the intelligence documents.
jordan holmes
That is perfect.
Did you see what he did there?
dan friesen
I hope you're pointing out what I was going to point out.
jordan holmes
He pointed out the thing that they were saying.
So the New York Times and all that are reporting he's back and he's ready to roll.
And then immediately follows that up with something that they did not say.
dan friesen
Which was what Paul Joseph Watson wrote.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And that makes it seem like they were also saying that.
That is...
Genius!
dan friesen
They take out of context quotes from Politico and New York Times articles and then twist it to be like, Obama's got a bunker and he's gonna be the shadow dark government.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They really don't want to say black government.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They really can't use that terminology.
jordan holmes
Probably not a good one.
dan friesen
But yeah, that's exactly what they do.
This is just insanely obvious propaganda tactics.
jordan holmes
I mean, but the reason that it's so brilliant, not brilliant, insidious.
It's insidious, I believe is the better term there, is that if you were writing that down, you would have to put quotes around what the New York Times said, attribute it to the New York Times, Then quotes around what Paul Joseph Watson said, attribute it to Paul Joseph Watson, and then go from there.
Because Alex Jones is talking, you can't see him hold up his fingers.
And I'm sure he's definitely not doing air quotes there.
dan friesen
No, he's just scatting.
He's just freeform lying.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's amazing.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
On one level, but it's also not all that amazing on another.
jordan holmes
It's like he's playing Mad Libs with the truth.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'm so excited to see what's going to happen in terms of this all falling apart.
Because I really don't know what Alex Jones does when his team loses.
I don't know if he's going to call for a revolution, like armed people on the streets.
jordan holmes
I could see that.
dan friesen
That is a possible outcome.
jordan holmes
Definitely.
Although then he would be open to a lot of prosecution and shit right there.
dan friesen
Oh yes.
I think it might be illegal for him to do that, so he might not.
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure it's illegal for you to go on your syndicated radio show and call for revolution.
dan friesen
We have a dicey legal situation that's about to come up too, so I'm excited to get to that.
But I don't know if there's enough time for him to get off the Trump bandwagon.
jordan holmes
No time.
dan friesen
If he does, he has to have some catalyst.
There has to be something that Trump does that's like, well, I thought he was for liberty.
I thought he was for prosperity.
He is not.
I don't know what that would be, but it would have to be major.
jordan holmes
I mean, it could just be something he makes up.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
It's entirely possible.
So here's my war games on what Alex Jones does here.
dan friesen
It's time for war games.
jordan holmes
Can we get a drop of him saying war games?
So, Alex Jones sees the writing on the wall, sees what's happening.
His narrative then is, so I had another phone call with Trump.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
And I saw it.
I saw it this time.
I realized he was lying to me the whole time.
I sussed it out.
You know what?
You can only lie to Alex Jones for so long before Alex Jones figures it out.
dan friesen
I disagree.
That's attractive.
But what I think it would be is I have had phone calls with unnamed high-up sources in the government.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It wouldn't be Trump himself.
unidentified
Why not?
jordan holmes
Why wouldn't it be Trump himself?
Because I think that's the angle you go.
dan friesen
I got advised by General Flynn that it would be something like that.
jordan holmes
I got advised by...
Another disgraced Russian spy.
dan friesen
In his narrative, Flynn isn't disgraced.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's true.
dan friesen
In his narrative, I think he brings this up in a clip that we're going to play later.
He believes that everyone was painting Flynn unfairly as a Russian spy.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so Flynn was just like, fuck this, I don't need this, I'm out of here.
And he was just so offended that people thought he was a spy that he's like, hey.
I was trying to save America.
It's not even worth it.
jordan holmes
I think the word spy is where I'm getting into trouble with a lot of the coverage right now.
Right, right, right.
The Russian ambassador, they're giving him a lot of like, oh, and he's the top spy recruiter with zero citations or anything like that.
dan friesen
That's bad.
jordan holmes
He's been turning and Trump is a Russian agent and all this stuff.
No, that's not the issue.
The issue is that they had these conversations.
Along the time as these policy changes, when they were not in office, and then they lied about it.
If they were in office, it would have been fine.
dan friesen
It wouldn't be fine.
jordan holmes
It wouldn't be fine, but it wouldn't be illegal.
dan friesen
Right, and that's where they...
I mean, we're going to talk about this in detail here in a bit.
And that's why the issue, like, trying to conflate the idea of, like...
Chuck Schumer met with them and stuff like that is completely not the same conversation.
jordan holmes
I'm worried a lot that people think that just...
The Russian part of it is the problem.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
It's anybody.
If he had met with the French ambassador and then lied about it...
dan friesen
What about the great noble Basque people from the hills of Spain?
jordan holmes
I was going to go with the Catalans because they're trying to get out of Spain as well, but you know what?
We're getting into some policy wonk shit right now.
dan friesen
Alright, I'm going to skip the rest of this clip because it's mostly just more fear about Obama, but here...
jordan holmes
I kind of want to see what Obama does now.
I want to see Obama's fuck you tour so far.
dan friesen
Well, Trump this morning, we're recording this on Saturday, Trump this morning tweeted a bunch of stuff about Obama tapping his phone.
jordan holmes
That he got the information from a Breitbart link.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That has no sourcing to it.
dan friesen
And Obama, through a spokesman, responded, Listen, man.
That's basically the response.
He's like, we did not do this.
jordan holmes
I like how Obama just had a guy.
He's like, come on, man.
That might as well have been the...
dan friesen
And everybody who knows anything knows that if there was bugging, then that means that there was probable cause to bug the Trump Tower office.
jordan holmes
Now, that...
Under the law?
That we know of, yes.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Whether or not that's a reality, because the FISA court is basically a rubber stamp court.
dan friesen
Well, not in this instance.
jordan holmes
In this instance, you're probably correct.
dan friesen
They were rejected multiple times, but they were also greenlit for the one that had to do with those Russian banks.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so...
I think it might have something to do with that.
So, if there was a bug...
jordan holmes
Can we just see his fucking tax returns?
dan friesen
If there was a bug, there was probable cause, and a judge signed off on it.
If there wasn't a bug, he's a fucking lunatic who believes everything he reads on Breitbart, and that's another problem.
jordan holmes
Now, here's the other problem there, though, is that either way, if it's real or not, he's a fucking lunatic who believes everything he reads on Breitbart.
dan friesen
Yeah, either way, we have to do something.
But...
We are talking too much and not getting to the clips, so let's get back into this one.
This is the first instance on this show of multiple instances of classic Alex Jones freakouts.
jordan holmes
Excellent!
dan friesen
He has guest co-hosts with him throughout most of the show because he needs a babysitter.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He's losing it.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And so, like, David Knight is in for a little bit, and we're going to listen to a bit of it, and it's interesting because I start to feel a little pity.
For David Knight.
jordan holmes
For the David Knight?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I think of it, it's similar to Sympathy for the Devil.
I have Sympathy for David Knight.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He also has...
jordan holmes
Because he has to stand next to him?
dan friesen
Yeah.
He also has Darren McBreen in a little bit, who's a guy who we haven't brought up in the past.
jordan holmes
Never heard that dude's name before.
dan friesen
He is just kind of a boring...
I don't really know how to describe him.
He's just sort of bland.
jordan holmes
He's a minor league David Knight.
dan friesen
No, I think he's better.
He's a little more engaging than David Knight, but he...
He just is like a newscaster who happens to work at InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Every day he wakes up surprised.
Wait, am I still here?
dan friesen
What am I doing?
jordan holmes
Aren't I legitimate?
dan friesen
Am I a legitimate newscaster?
No, I'm not saying that.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, okay.
dan friesen
I'm saying the tone and tenor of him is similar to a normal.
And then for a bit, I don't think I caught any of it because I fucking hate him.
But Owen Troyer is in for a little bit.
That guy sucks.
That guy is the worst.
jordan holmes
Of all of the people.
That we deal with Owen Troyer, you've singled out for hatred.
dan friesen
Well, he looks fairly similar to our friend Matty Ryan.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, that's it.
dan friesen
And I like Matty.
jordan holmes
There it is.
dan friesen
And it bums me out.
And then also, he's just, like, in the same way that Paul Joseph Watson is so manipulative about social justice warriors and hating progressive causes.
Right.
Bullying protesters and things like that.
He is in that same camp.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And they're both young and attractive dudes.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
And so it's...
I just fucking...
jordan holmes
You're a little bit on the you're using your powers for evil kind of mode right here.
dan friesen
A little bit.
In the same way I feel about Leanne McAdoo a little bit.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
Or now Millie Weaver.
Although I don't find her all that attractive.
jordan holmes
Whatever happened to Rainbow Snatch?
Have we seen her yet?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, we did?
Is she back?
dan friesen
She did come back for a minute.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck yes!
unidentified
They sent her out to a protest.
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
And then they had a bunch of clips of people telling her to turn off the camera and like, don't use this footage and stuff like that.
Don't put me on here.
I don't want to talk to you and stuff like that.
And then they were like...
You go out to these protests and you just have bull dykes harass you and attack you.
jordan holmes
She's a clown.
I don't want to see a clown.
dan friesen
She literally is dressed up like a clown.
jordan holmes
She's dressed up like a clown!
dan friesen
Anyway, we've got to get to the clip.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
This is about more stuff about that DOJ slush fund and Alex legit freaking out and it's great.
alex jones
And then we catch him.
Three billion, Darren.
You want to comment on this, Matt?
You were the one that brought me the article.
Three billion to the social justice warriors.
Of fines that banks paid for corrupt stuff they were involved in.
dan friesen
Again, it was not social justice warrior causes.
A lot of it was housing councils and legal defense funds and stuff like that.
I found literally no documentation that any of that money went to anything that they accused George Soros of doing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Any of the Black Lives Matters, any of the Black Bloc, Antifa stuff.
jordan holmes
Nothing.
dan friesen
None of that is...
I mean, I'm not saying any of that money didn't go to them.
I can't prove it either way.
But there's absolutely no proof it did.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So him claiming it is a lie prima facie.
jordan holmes
Anybody he doesn't like is a social justice warrior.
dan friesen
That's a fair point.
If you want to try and get poor people housing, if you want to try and house the homeless, you're a social justice warrior.
jordan holmes
I like how you can get angry at social justice.
It seems like it's a very easy thing to be behind.
dan friesen
Well, it's not, because it's a trick trying to get you into communism, which gets you into socialism, which isn't real.
It's just globalist slavery.
Anyway, here we go.
alex jones
The banks steal hundreds of billions of dollars in some cases.
It was $386 billion that two banks got caught, Wachovia and Wells Fargo, laundering drug money.
So they got a $111 million fine.
So first they get a slap on the wrist for billions stolen.
Then they take that money and they give it to social justice warriors to overthrow the country, take our guns, and teach our kids how to be sexually active at five.
So just think about it.
Crime upon crime upon crime upon crime.
They shut off almost a thousand of our power plants.
Our power prices almost triple in the last nine years because Bush started it.
All this hell goes on.
darrin mcbreen
Don't forget Obamacare.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, don't forget it.
dan friesen
That's Darren McBreen, and he's just sitting there the entire time, like, mm-hmm.
He's doing little takes to the camera and stuff, too.
He's like, I'm here, too.
It's great.
It's great.
alex jones
Famicure, thank God the public's dumb, doubling, tripling prices.
You can keep your doctor.
I mean, this is all a mass raping of America, and Trump says it stops now, and then I'm a policy wonk.
I study this stuff.
Ten hours a day, probably.
You should do it more.
And I know everything he's doing is so smart.
jordan holmes
Is he listening?
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
I think he's listening, guys.
dan friesen
He has to be.
jordan holmes
He has to be listening, guys.
dan friesen
Everybody, whenever you hear Alex Jones say he's a policy wonk, you've got to finish your drink.
That's the drinking game.
alex jones
And so good!
And then it pisses me off because it ain't about Trump.
It's about me and my family and your family and these crooks not getting away with it.
So what's 20th Century Fox do?
They go start hundreds of fake websites with fake news about Trump!
And then dumbasses read it and come tell me I'm fake news!
I'm about as fake as you don't get.
I'm the opposite.
jordan holmes
I'm the anti-fake.
I mean, I'm pissed off.
alex jones
I can be here right now.
It's quite outrageous that they commit all these crimes, Daryl, on every front and nothing's being done.
I agree with Governor Huckabee that they need to be put in prison or there should be investigations.
What do you think about them only shutting down European and U.S. coal?
What do you think the plan is if China and other countries have dirty coal and then we shut off our clean coal?
Doesn't that add to actual emissions of dangerous chemicals into the atmosphere?
My good man, tell me!
jordan holmes
That was McBreen's little...
dan friesen
He comes from the Rainbow Snatch School of Improv.
He is not good.
But that's what Alex thinks that normal news is.
jordan holmes
What could you possibly think standing next to Alex Jones as he goes into this random character?
dan friesen
You gotta think, like, I have ruined my possible career trajectory.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I can't go anywhere else.
Like, my face has been on InfoWars as a reporter.
I'm done.
The only opportunity, the only option I have is to go down with the ship.
That's one.
The only jettisoning he could possibly do is start his own YouTube channel and kind of go at Alex, much like Mark Dice did for a little while.
jordan holmes
Never gonna happen.
dan friesen
That's the only play, because there's no credibility anywhere to be found.
jordan holmes
If he does try to get a job at New York Times or MSNBC, they're just gonna, in the interview, they're gonna take it.
And just play that clip and laugh at him until he leaves.
dan friesen
Also, he brought up this fake news thing, this weird narrative.
I saw that you were confused.
jordan holmes
The 20th Century Fox thing got me.
dan friesen
I promise you we'll get right back to it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
darrin mcbreen
We're so lucky that there's the internet, though, because I'm thinking a lot of what we're seeing right now is backlash for Trump being elected.
alex jones
You're seeing news wars.
darrin mcbreen
That's why they're going after Infowars, because we were definitely instrumental.
And getting Trump elected.
jordan holmes
That's not what you want on record now.
darrin mcbreen
The internet.
That we'd probably be looking at a Jeb Bush presidency or God forbid.
alex jones
I agree with you, but let's not start, you know what, like the wolf says in Pulp Fiction.
We can't celebrate yet.
darrin mcbreen
Let's not start.
Revolution had just begun.
alex jones
What I'm telling you is we're in the war now.
Like Michael Savage said.
darrin mcbreen
A lot of people...
You know, they celebrated.
Of course, we all celebrated as soon as Trump was elected.
But no, the battle has just begun.
alex jones
That was getting the troops on the beach at Normandy.
dan friesen
He goes a little bit further about their role in Trump's election later.
jordan holmes
Which, again, they should really not be advertising at this point.
dan friesen
And it's like, if you want to make the argument that you're not a propagandist, this is a bad way to do it.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
This is really bad.
jordan holmes
Remember why Adroll got rid of him?
dan friesen
Which is really what this, like, the idea behind...
The fake news meme or the term is propaganda and that sort of thing.
It's not about, like, all these weird websites that say, like, if you eat this weird berry...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not about...
jordan holmes
Yeah, why isn't it just called propaganda?
Fake news to me is more like...
700-foot-tall monkey terrorizes Infowars.
That's fake news.
dan friesen
Yeah, or the onion or something like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Or anybody trying to get me into acai berry or something like that.
That's fake news.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
What Alex does is propaganda, and he doesn't understand that that's what people are saying.
And so he dutifully serves as a propagandist.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, if nobody calls him a propagandist and just a fake news, then everybody else is the fake stream media.
There's just no escape.
Call him a propagandist, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just call him what he is.
dan friesen
I gotta find this clip here, because like I said, everything is out of order.
jordan holmes
And then call Trump a liar?
Don't say he's making up alternative facts.
It's hard not to reference 1984 every single day.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Where you're just making up words, newspeak bullshit.
It's not propaganda, it's fake news.
Americana.
Americana.
dan friesen
So, this story about 20th Century Fox, I pulled up the article from the New York Times, and the headline of it is, 20th Century Fox used fake news to publicize a new movie called A Cure for Wellness.
And basically what they did is they put up fake sites that were filled with advertisements for their movies.
With scandalous headlines, knowing that people would repost these articles and there'd be tons of ads for their movies that just get disseminated.
jordan holmes
That's irresponsible?
dan friesen
Very.
jordan holmes
That's bad.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
I don't like that.
dan friesen
No, I don't either.
jordan holmes
I think that's a bad idea.
dan friesen
Right.
But their point, or what they were doing, was a marketing tactic.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Not trying to slander Infowars or anything like that.
Here's their rationalization from this article.
Quote, A Cure for Wellness is a movie about a fake cure that makes people sicker, their statement said.
As a part of this campaign, a fake wellness site, healthandwellness.co, was created, and we partnered with a fake news creator to publish fake news.
A Fox News spoke, or, uh, who cares?
The rest of this is nonsense.
jordan holmes
Yeah, who gives a shit?
That's still bad.
I don't like it.
dan friesen
No, I don't either, but it's not what Alex is saying.
A Cure for Wellness was directed by Gore Verbinski and stars Dane DeHaan and Jason Isaacs, who in the past have both made jokes online about the phenomenon of fake news.
The film opens on Friday and has received mostly negative reviews.
One critic, Joe, and then I'm not going to be able to say his last name, of the Daily News, described its plot as, quote, preposterous gothic nonsense.
jordan holmes
That actually makes it sound more interesting to me.
I would like to see preposterous gothic nonsense.
dan friesen
I like that quote, though.
Preposterous gothic nonsense.
jordan holmes
To me, that's like if Clue was set in Transylvania.
dan friesen
That's preposterous.
jordan holmes
That's preposterous gothic nonsense.
dan friesen
But you get what we're making a mountain out of a molehill here.
Because I think that, if I recall, this article also has a list of a bunch of the headlines.
jordan holmes
Are they wildly obvious in their fake-itude?
dan friesen
Somewhat.
Leaked Lady Gaga halftime performance to feature Muslim tribute.
So that's kind of believable.
jordan holmes
That is kind of believable.
I wish she had done that.
That would have been pretty great.
dan friesen
California legislature to consider tax rebates for women who get abortions.
So basically they just have these hot topic button issues and they know that people are going to be like, did you read this shit?
Because we've seen it over and over again.
No one actually reads the shit they repost.
You know what it is?
I agree with you 100% that it's bad and it's dangerous.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's definitely not helping in the whole there's so much fake news out there.
How do we weed it out?
And they're like, I know.
We add a shit ton more!
dan friesen
But as a sort of parody and performance art thing, I think it's okay.
But since it's crass marketing, I'm not so okay with it.
But if you take ethics out of it, it's really smart.
It's a really smart idea.
jordan holmes
It is a smart move.
It is a smart move.
dan friesen
But Alex is treating it as like...
This is proof that all of everybody, everything that's fake, it's made by 20th Century Fox, it's made by the globalists, the establishment, in order to discredit Infowars, which is on the cutting edge.
And that's not the situation at all.
jordan holmes
That's nonsense.
dan friesen
He's a liar.
He doesn't even understand the story he's telling.
Neither does Darren McBreen, who is on the show to break this news.
It's just utter insanity.
jordan holmes
I love how he's on the show to break this news and has spoken all of ten words.
dan friesen
Yeah, so they talk a little bit more about this, and then it gets to the end where Alex pivots the conversation weirdly to say some really bad stuff about CIA people.
jordan holmes
Okay.
darrin mcbreen
Well, you're exactly right.
The mainstream media has been caught red-handed.
Creating fake news websites.
jordan holmes
That's not them.
darrin mcbreen
And they're complete with made-up stories that were spread online.
And these stories were shared by millions of people on Facebook and Twitter.
Because, Alex, they look and feel like the real thing.
They look like traditional mainstream media websites.
dan friesen
That's a fair point, but I never saw any of this.
jordan holmes
No, me neither.
dan friesen
I would not be aware of this if it wasn't for InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Yeah, was it shared millions of times?
dan friesen
Maybe, but not within our circles, possibly.
jordan holmes
Somebody's going to share some dumb shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, the champagne's starting to feel real good right now, I've got to be honest.
darrin mcbreen
Check out the names of some of these websites.
Salt Lake City Guardian, The Houston Leader, Sacramento Dispatch, New York Morning Post, and the Indianapolis Gazette.
Like I said, looks and feels like a legitimate website.
jordan holmes
Indianapolis doesn't have its own newspaper.
darrin mcbreen
Trump and Putin spotted at Swiss Resort prior to the election.
dan friesen
But we agree with them in as much as like...
jordan holmes
That last one especially is really irresponsible.
dan friesen
It's a dirty manipulative tactic, but it's not to discredit InfoWars or anything like that.
It's strictly to market a movie.
jordan holmes
I don't think anybody needs help discrediting InfoWars.
dan friesen
No, we don't.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
We only need help from them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
They're doing all they need to do.
dan friesen
And it's not the mainstream media.
It's a corporation.
It's a movie-making corporation that realizes...
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, the mainstream media is also corporations and so on.
dan friesen
Right, but they're disconnected.
It's a movie studio who realizes, oh, we...
Gore Verbinski made a hot pile of garbage here, and we gotta fucking sell it somehow.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Some guy just probably came up with, you know what?
Everyone shares bullshit online.
What if we could use that to subtly get it in the headspace with all these ads on these sites?
jordan holmes
That's a good marketing tactic that that guy will not be able to tell anybody what's his idea.
He does not want to be the one who's on that.
dan friesen
It's like Wag the Dog shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
But also, I didn't see any of these websites because they've all been taken down now.
jordan holmes
Of course, good.
dan friesen
But I would have to assume that any right-thinking person...
I know there's not many of us left.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But if you went to the website, you'd be like, why are there so many goddamn ads for this cure for wellness?
Seems a little strange.
I don't know if I trust what's going on here.
jordan holmes
But I definitely want to see that movie.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know what?
jordan holmes
Is everybody talking about a cure for wellness?
dan friesen
I can't tell from these ads here, but this looks like preposterous gothic nonsense.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Let's get back to the clip.
It's so great when he turns on the CIA.
Oh, my God.
darrin mcbreen
This was from the Sacramento Dispatch.
A news organization that does not exist.
There's no such thing.
Here's another one.
Trump refuses to provide California federal support in midst of a natural dot, dot, dot.
That's their clickbait.
And so what happens is you go to these websites.
And I saw these personally.
I saw these on Facebook and Twitter.
These were popping up.
A lot of people were sharing them.
Totally oblivious to the fact that they were sharing and spreading fake news.
dan friesen
Here's the headline.
Darren McBreen has dumb friends.
That's the story.
He saw this popping up over and over again in his feed because he doesn't curate his friends list well.
jordan holmes
No.
Or he doesn't curate his friends very well either.
dan friesen
Legitimately, I have gotten back on Facebook just for messaging purposes, but I have signed on a couple times, and I'm so glad that I unfollowed almost everybody before I left Facebook, because now if I sign in, it's just Bobby Buds.
It's just Chicago comedian Bobby Buggs.
Just dumb pun after dumb pun.
He's never going to post any of this fake news.
It's great.
Anyway.
darrin mcbreen
And it turns out these websites were created by 20th Century Fox.
alex jones
Wow.
Now let's be clear.
Wow.
You've got the report.
We're going to go over it.
Let's get this break.
This is so big.
And there's a bunch of others.
Because I keep seeing these stories about...
It looks like major papers.
The Russians have invaded Alaska.
The Russians run...
Drudge Report.
The Russians run Alex Shones.
The Russians run Jeff Sessions.
The Russians run Nigel Farage.
And then they're in German, too, but they get translated in our news.
And remember, that's what they were saying.
The CIA in foreign countries puts out fake news.
That was illegal until...
darrin mcbreen
The CIA, even back then, had 3,000-plus CIA agents embedded in mainstream media.
alex jones
Listen, listen.
Growing up in Texas and Dallas...
You couldn't swing a stick without hitting people that were auxiliary in the CIA.
And that was supposedly, as you met, was how you beat the Russians.
Supposedly, they've got all these spies.
It wasn't electronic back then.
You had to have actual people to be watching everything to see, you know, if this was going on.
And that's how they got the best and brightest.
If you were in the top of your class, the CIA came and tried to recruit you.
And my dad had family and stuff that had been in it, and they were all like, oh, we kill people, we bring drugs in, you don't want to be part of this.
jordan holmes
They should not have told him that.
alex jones
I mean, I grew up knowing what was really going on.
That's snitching.
dan friesen
Alex Jones comes through a family of snitches.
jordan holmes
Wait, what kind of Thanksgiving is that where it's like, ah, we can't tell you this classified information.
Motherfucker, we kill a lot of folks, dude.
dan friesen
You don't want none of this.
jordan holmes
You don't want to deal with that.
You're also Alex.
You are not being recruited by the CIA.
dan friesen
But dude, have you seen pictures of him when he was younger?
Fucking swole as shit.
unidentified
Oh, really?
dan friesen
Alex Jones used to be yoked.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
He used to be like...
Just, like, a physique like you wouldn't imagine based on seeing him now.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But, like, he used to be fucking cut.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
I hate that I'm saying these very positive things about his body.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you sound like you want to go back in time and fuck the anger out of Alex Jones.
unidentified
Give us some super male vitality in a time machine.
dan friesen
All right, all right, all right.
alex jones
IA that was more pro-America than you can say now.
I mean...
They're into...
Brzezinski has written books where he admits the shadow state is behind child trafficking, everything.
His argument is they're in control of it to manage it and not let it get out of hand.
We manage criminals by running all the criminal operations.
And now, the CIA is just one of the bigger agencies.
1947 National Security Act.
They're just running rampant.
Domestically filled with all the liberals and social justice warriors that have been packed in there under Obama and under Bill Clinton and under even George W. And they literally are waging war against us with this info.
So tell folks where you learned about this.
20th Century Fox putting up fake newspapers to run lies against Trump doing what they claim Russia did against Hillary.
jordan holmes
Not entirely against Trump.
Even in their own examples, most of them were not against Trump.
dan friesen
One was about Trump and Putin meeting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there was one.
That was out of like five examples.
dan friesen
Right, the rest of them are just trolly hot button issues.
But also, keep in mind...
jordan holmes
I mean, one of them is California gives tax cuts to abortions or whatever it is.
That's definitely not against Trump.
dan friesen
No, that's liberal baiting.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's like, look at these dumb liberals.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
But...
Keep in mind that the question as posed was, where did you find out about this?
jordan holmes
I want to know where he found out about this.
dan friesen
And also keep in mind that they're trying to present this as if this is a big story they're breaking.
jordan holmes
Breaking news.
Nobody else is covering this.
For obvious reasons.
darrin mcbreen
They're promoting a new movie that's coming out called Cure for Wellness.
But like I said, I think it's more than that.
alex jones
No, it's slander.
dan friesen
It's not slander.
jordan holmes
It's definitely not slander.
dan friesen
Also, it's not more than that.
It is promoting a movie.
unidentified
Also, are they promoting the movie now?
dan friesen
Oh my god.
jordan holmes
Is he making up for some ad roll shit by now taking contracts from 20th Century Fox to fake news combat their fake news?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
We did it.
We figured it out.
dan friesen
My mind is so blown.
jordan holmes
We figured it out.
alex jones
Defamation, holding out a fake article, not telling you it's satire at the bottom.
dan friesen
I can't confirm or deny whether it didn't say that it was satire, but in those instances, you really should point that out.
And if they did, that's inappropriate.
That is inappropriate.
jordan holmes
Well, but you don't have to.
The Onion doesn't have to say at the bottom of every article, and by the way, this is not true information.
dan friesen
Yeah, also InfoWars doesn't have to point out we didn't read this article in every article.
They don't have to say, like, we don't know what we're talking about.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
alex jones
It's a lie.
darrin mcbreen
Absolutely.
alex jones
Now, again, who reported that on the mainstream?
darrin mcbreen
Well, New York Times covered it.
Washington Post covered it.
alex jones
Yeah, no, no, no.
That's why I mention that, because Washington Post is right there on screen.
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
To promote film, 20th Century Fox created fake news sites with fake anti-Trump stories.
See, so they then admit it, but it's okay when they put out fake news.
Well, the Washington Post a month ago put out the fake list of hundreds of names that they said were fake news.
Some were fake like The Onion.
InfoWars was not fake.
People threatened lawsuits because it is defamation.
They pulled it and said, we don't know where we got it.
You got it from the CIA.
We know where you got it, okay?
That later came out.
In fact, Trump's ordered the CIA and people to stop it.
They're not following his orders.
One group is all the soldiers, all the operatives, all the humet, all the men that actually do stuff, the real muscle, are all Trump.
But they're in there with all the analysts and chicken necks, and they're total scum.
I mean, I tell people that were there in the meeting when Trump comes in, and they're like, sir, here's all the targets Obama won't let us hit.
These are all the ones where the al-Qaeda and al-Nasra bases are.
Trump looks it over and he goes, Hit them all!
jordan holmes
No!
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
That didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Of course that didn't happen!
dan friesen
Hold on and cool your jet.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry!
There's so much batshit in that!
dan friesen
The story he's about to tell is hilarious and didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But it's great and Alex even like...
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
It's so great.
Just enjoy this bullshit.
Okay.
alex jones
And then literally, analysts were like, we're going to get him!
And he gave them all presents.
Nobody knows this.
He gave them all presents of wood-carved American flags.
And literally, right as he walked out, they were hopping around going, we're going to get him!
That was government money, a bribe!
And a Trump guy that stayed behind, he goes, he knew you'd say that.
Pulled out the letter with Trump that paid for it and the receipt and handed it right to the rat.
Now, folks, I shouldn't even tell these stories.
That happened inside the day he went and spoke with the stars behind him.
That's where they said they wanted him to speak.
And one group knew it was a setup and then claimed, why do you stand in front of the stars?
The other group said it's alright.
But the point is, it's literally all the foundation people, all the little Asker kids and Rockefeller type kids, you know, they're better than everybody.
unidentified
They're better.
alex jones
They all hate the men.
They all hate the tough guys.
They hate America.
And they hate Christians.
They just, they're scum.
And they hate beautiful art.
I mean, these are trash.
Everybody knows it.
And the people in the CIA that are good, they just want to get rid of them.
But they're the ones in there.
By the way, I didn't get that from Trump.
The media's going to check into that and going to crap themselves because nobody knows about that.
jordan holmes
Who knows about that?
Does anybody know about that?
Alex does.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
What kind of lame, like, that's like a fantasy novel trick that the king plays to get all of his knights to go away.
What the shit was that?
dan friesen
It's utter insanity.
jordan holmes
Wood-carved American flags.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
And then they were like, wait, so Obama got them the wood-carved American flags, no?
dan friesen
Trump did.
jordan holmes
Trump got them, yeah.
What was the reveal at the end, though?
That there was a receipt for it?
dan friesen
The reveal was that these foundation chicken necks in the CIA, the analyst types, who aren't men, who are definitely not men, Trump got them these gifts, and then they're like, oh, he used government money, it's a bribe.
And one of Trump's people stayed behind and showed them a receipt that proved that Trump had paid for it with his own money, and so they couldn't get him with misusing government money.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
What?
dan friesen
This didn't happen.
jordan holmes
What made-up bullshit is that?
dan friesen
I shouldn't be talking about this.
jordan holmes
Wait, wait, but...
Okay, okay, so I...
alex jones
If he didn't hear that...
jordan holmes
Who could possibly...
What kind...
Who told him that story?
dan friesen
If you didn't hear it from Trump, I don't know where that could have come from.
jordan holmes
No, that came from...
dan friesen
One of the chicken necks?
jordan holmes
That was Flynn fucking with him.
dan friesen
I bet it was.
jordan holmes
That was definitely Flynn fucking with him.
dan friesen
We already know that he clearly talks to Sessions.
He clearly talks to Flynn.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
What kind of dumbass shit...
Also, the analysts are there, and they're excited.
dan friesen
Thrilled.
jordan holmes
Because they can get Trump...
Because he bought them a total of like $100 worth of wooden American flags?
dan friesen
Americana.
jordan holmes
That's what they were going to...
That's what they were licking their lips.
We finally got them.
We broke this huge scandal.
Trump is using government funds to buy knickknacks.
And we got them.
dan friesen
It's tchotchke gate.
jordan holmes
Washington Post is going to be all over this shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's so stupid.
jordan holmes
Oh, we got some bric-a-brac over there.
But the men, the men know that...
Also, if I know men...
dan friesen
Do you?
jordan holmes
No.
They were probably very disappointed not to have received their own bric-a-brac.
dan friesen
It might be implied that they got bric-a-brac as well.
I'm not sure.
It's unclear from the clip, and nobody knows about this.
jordan holmes
I like how the idea that somebody would be mad that he told that story.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
The stakes could not possibly be lower.
dan friesen
Let's be honest, too.
If someone were to come out with that story, it only kind of makes Trump look good.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's actually kind of funny.
It's a funny story.
dan friesen
Yeah.
We make him seem like a good dude who gives people gifts, which is a plus.
And then also, if there was documentation of these chicken neck analysts freaking out, it would kind of indicate that there is some truth, that there is a schism in the intelligence community.
Some people want to take him down and some don't.
jordan holmes
But also...
dan friesen
But all that's not real.
jordan holmes
What?
What?
dan friesen
Anyway, we gotta get to these clips.
We were fucking drifting so far off course.
jordan holmes
That's the silly...
dan friesen
It's time to pay the bills.
We gotta go to an ad here.
And in this ad, I think Alex...
jordan holmes
Is it for the cure for wellness?
dan friesen
It's not.
It's for his gun parts.
And I think there's some indications that Alex is not clear whether what he's doing is legal or not.
alex jones
We did sell out of all the Ronald Reagan and Donald Trump lithographs.
Those are gone.
We're about to sell out of the Tennessee Firearms.
Lowers for M4s.
The very best out there.
Laser etched with Republic Reborn, 45th President of the United States, Donald J. Trump.
There are only a couple hundred left of those of the one out of a thousand.
It is a collector's item.
Again, you drill this out.
This is your heirloom.
This is for you.
That's how you legally have it.
We have the ATF letter there.
Still check your local laws.
It's all there.
Infowarsstore.com.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He's back to, we got the ATF letter, so everybody knows it's fine.
Check your local laws, though, because it's probably not fine.
I don't even know if that letter's real.
dan friesen
A policy wonk would probably know the local laws.
jordan holmes
Well, actually, all of the analysts inside Infowars were really excited because they were like, ha ha, we finally got you on this one, Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Yeah, that'd be so awesome if there was a group within Infowars.
jordan holmes
But Alex Jones has a receipt.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I don't know if it's legal or not.
I don't really care.
I know that it's only a matter of time before they sell guns, if it is legal.
jordan holmes
The idea of a human being with a Republic reborn Donald Trump stamped gun is the single...
Scariest thing I can possibly think of.
dan friesen
And there's only a couple hundred left.
That means he probably sold like 700 of them.
jordan holmes
He had to have sold plenty of those.
dan friesen
Those guns will be used to murder you and I. Oh, man.
You know that's how we go.
jordan holmes
That is an ironic ending for us, though.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's pretty much how we should go.
dan friesen
Speaking about...
jordan holmes
If DT makes it through this whole thing, oh, it's going to be public, too.
dan friesen
Yeah.
DT, Donald Trump, is my second favorite DT after Delirium Tremens.
Either the condition or the Belgian beer.
They're both great.
Anyway, this next clip, we're talking about irony a little bit there.
This is ironic, because Alex Jones, I think, is talking about himself a little bit in this clip.
jordan holmes
Also, that wasn't an ironic end.
That was a fitting end.
Ironic does not mean that.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think Alex is talking about himself here, though, when he talks about how to engage with the globalists.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
The only winning move is to not play, to not engage the globalists in a discussion of their false paradigm.
They set the rules.
They set up a cultural construct that breaks the social contract and is anti-human, eugenics-based, slavery-based, technocracy-based throughout its entire system.
dan friesen
I don't think the specifics he laid out at the end there necessarily are him talking about himself, but that don't engage, they have a fake worldview, that's about him.
That's advice for us.
Don't engage with him.
jordan holmes
But quite literally, all he's ever done is engage with the globalists, right?
dan friesen
Well, maybe not one-on-one.
Maybe not actually debating them, but he's engaged in terms of putting himself as the opponent of the globalists.
jordan holmes
Okay, so...
dan friesen
Yeah, his whole career is based on trying to engage with the ideology of the global...
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're right, yeah.
dan friesen
So basically his point is, don't do what I've done.
jordan holmes
He just negated the entirety of his career.
dan friesen
These last 20 years have been shit.
Tell you what, it gets you nowhere.
unidentified
My basic policy is, oh god, I've wasted my life.
dan friesen
Do you think there are those quiet moments?
jordan holmes
There have to be.
dan friesen
Those moments where he's just like, just laying in bed with a soft dick.
Waiting for the fucking super male to kick in.
And he's like, I don't know, man.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
Was it worth it?
Did I make all this up?
Because I think I might have.
jordan holmes
See, that I would be fine with.
The idea that he never has that moment of doubt terrifies me more than anything else.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It would be strange to be in his position and not.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Anyway, here comes- Even while we're doing this now, I have a moment of doubt where I'm like, dude, is this even- Are we going to do anything?
Is this valuable?
dan friesen
In terrible moments of insecurity, I sometimes think like, is he on to something?
They go away very fast.
But the amount that I distrust myself is just, the natural byproduct of it is like, wait.
Like on our last episode, it's like, wait.
He's cool with weed legalization, and he's against civil asset for for sure.
Hold on.
Have I got him wrong?
jordan holmes
I think billionaires are a group of global people traveling around the world.
Maybe we're wrong.
dan friesen
We're not.
There's kernels of his stuff that's real, and then the big, when it pops, the popcorn is shitty.
jordan holmes
The point being that we are aggressively self-aware to the point that even when we are absolutely 100% right, Angrily yell at ourselves, like, maybe you're wrong!
Maybe you're wrong!
dan friesen
And whatever critical skills and, like, digging we're doing into him, we do ten times more to ourselves.
So, anyway, this next clip is the next freakout that he has.
This one's good.
Also, this has to do with Sessions and the Russian situation, and then ends up getting...
Oh, no, this also...
My note that I have here is this...
David Knight is in studio.
For this clip.
jordan holmes
So we get to watch David Knight watch Alex Jones freak the fuck out?
dan friesen
I start to feel a little bit bad for him because he just can't get a word in.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
This is unbelievable.
And what's unbelievable is we just keep learning more and more and more and more.
Meanwhile, the big scandal, we'll go into this now, I want to finish the clip, or part of it, we're going to get to this, is Sessions as a senator, as the ranking member of the Armed Services Committee, It was on his record on the Senate site that he had a meeting twice with a Russian ambassador.
I went and looked it up.
Schumer had many more last year than that.
It's on there.
It turns out this guy likes the Democrats, sat with them at the inauguration.
It turns out he's buddies with Pelosi.
It turns out he's buddies with everybody.
It turns out Obama had 20-plus meetings with him last year as well.
But Sessions has two.
And he's a Russian agent and lied when he was asked specifically.
Frank had read it.
Obviously by a lawyer.
Frank is not that smart.
Knowing Sessions is a lawyer, we're told that in the press that surrogates on the campaign met with Russians about the campaign.
He said, no, I'm a surrogate.
I'm one of the top surrogates.
Nobody met about the campaign with Russians.
dan friesen
That is also not accurately saying what Sessions said.
jordan holmes
And he also just revealed why it is that one is okay and one is not.
dan friesen
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
He just said...
unidentified
Spell it out.
jordan holmes
Pelosi had all of these meetings.
Schumer had all of these meetings.
Obama had all of these meetings.
Sessions only has two, and then he lied about it.
dan friesen
Well, sure.
jordan holmes
No, you get that part.
It's the last part that's why it's bad.
He's the Russian ambassador.
You should have meetings with him.
alex jones
You're right.
dan friesen
But then he goes into why he wasn't lying about it, because he answered it based on what a legal definition of these things are.
And it's not true.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
What Franken asked him was how he would respond as the attorney general about if these things came out.
jordan holmes
Which is even crazier, because then he does not answer that question, and instead denies having met.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Which is very suspicious!
dan friesen
He doesn't answer the question as phrased.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
He answers a different question to try and be like, hey, look bro.
jordan holmes
It wasn't me.
dan friesen
Look bro.
jordan holmes
Somebody's called me a surrogate before, but I'm not a surrogate.
I've never even had a baby.
dan friesen
Despite the fact that he has used campaign funds for travel and for- And nobody else on the committee, and it wasn't on his record?
No.
They were private meetings.
All these things are about the context of things.
The context matters.
jordan holmes
Right.
And the lying part is a big part of it.
dan friesen
Pelosi and Chuckie Schumer have both come out and addressed these sort of arguments.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Because what he's yelling about, what Alex is yelling about, is about a post on Drudge that Trump also saw and tweeted about.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And he talked about how we need to investigate all these.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's like, okay, you don't understand how logic works.
You think you're doing a syllogism here, and you're not.
jordan holmes
That's actually the subtitle of our podcast.
Knowledge Fight, colon.
You don't understand how logic works.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
And I'm not saying that I'm the most logical person in the world, but I spent...
jordan holmes
You are.
You have years of college in logic.
dan friesen
I basically have a degree in logic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
So I...
jordan holmes
No, you're not the most logical person in the world.
But you're up there.
dan friesen
I behave illogically.
But the extent that I understand how logic works...
I don't want to sit here and brag, but I'm a little bit.
jordan holmes
Nobody is impressed by you knowing about logic.
You can't brag about learning about logic.
Nobody's like, oh, whoa, you're a logic guy?
dan friesen
A logician.
I just need...
jordan holmes
I don't even like you saying that word.
dan friesen
I just need it to be clear that I have studied the system of logic and how it works.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And when people misuse it, it drives me crazy.
Which is a big reason why we're doing the show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's one of the things I hate the most about it.
jordan holmes
Because that's what Alex Jones does.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, back to...
jordan holmes
So I've been reading up on the Russian ambassador who...
I think one of the big problems with him is that he looks like a Cold War era spy.
He looks like he's straight out of central casting.
dan friesen
He looks like the word frumpy.
I'm not here to body shame Russians.
jordan holmes
If the word frumpy came to life, it would be the ambassador to Russia.
It's fine.
You should meet with the Russian ambassador, and I'm sure he's a cool dude.
That's the whole point of being an ambassador.
You're the guy who comes over here and you schmooze.
dan friesen
And he's got great vodka.
jordan holmes
He's a really good schmoozer, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, I imagine.
jordan holmes
I bet he would be super cool to hang out with.
dan friesen
But that's what we're talking about.
It comes down to context is what's so important.
What was discussed?
Why did they have these meetings?
jordan holmes
And why did you lie about it?
dan friesen
That's also super big.
So, I mean, Alex can obfuscate all he wants about other people meeting with someone who they should have met with.
And, like I said, what I was getting to with the...
Schumer and Pelosi have both come out and tried to do their best to explain that there's a difference between public meetings and private meetings.
And there's a difference about...
jordan holmes
Which should not be hard to explain.
dan friesen
There's a difference...
jordan holmes
There's a reason there are two different words there.
dan friesen
There's a difference between being a sitting senator in your official capacity that the media is informed...
He was informed about meeting with diplomats and being, legally speaking, due to your use of campaign funds, a Trump surrogate for the campaign.
At the time, if I recall correctly, he was in charge of the foreign affairs team.
Right.
jordan holmes
And it would be reasonable if he had reported it.
dan friesen
No, it wouldn't.
jordan holmes
No, not the whole campaign funds and all of that stuff.
But as a senator.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Armed Foreign Services Committee, or whatever it is.
Armed Services, yeah.
Armed Services.
If he was like, hey, or even in the Franken question, if he had just said, oh yeah, I met with him a couple of times, we talked about some stuff.
dan friesen
But that's not what Franken asked.
unidentified
Nope.
If he had just answered the right question.
dan friesen
If he had just said, I would take that very seriously, and whatever information comes out, I will deal with impartially and fairly.
jordan holmes
Done.
dan friesen
If he had just said that, this problem would not be happening.
jordan holmes
No, there's no conversation at all.
dan friesen
Nope.
And even if the news comes out that he did meet with Russians, he has not perjured himself.
unidentified
No!
jordan holmes
He has committed zero felonies if he answered.
Everybody's so stupid now.
dan friesen
He put himself behind an eight ball.
jordan holmes
Everybody's dumb.
dan friesen
Alex Jones goes out and he's like, hey, you know, the globalists want to try and take down Sessions.
jordan holmes
He did this to himself.
dan friesen
He spoke poorly.
jordan holmes
Again, he's a half-elf, half-ling magician.
And, yeah, he didn't have a chance.
dan friesen
The evidence is stacking that he is not our tank.
He does not have the hit points to withstand this.
So, I mean, I don't know who's next in line, but...
You know, like, in terms of once he falls, I don't know who's next.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
It's all gonna come down.
dan friesen
Because Manafort's already out of the administration.
Carter Page is only loosely connected to Sessions and the administration as a whole.
I mean, Kushner could be next, I guess.
jordan holmes
I hope so.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He seems like a dick.
Let's get rid of him.
dan friesen
Man, does he seem like a dick.
jordan holmes
He seems like such a dick.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, let's keep going with this clip.
We have yet to get to the point where Alex really freaks out, which is just my favorite thing in the world.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And they go, oh!
You lied.
You met with a Russian.
Not in the campaign capacity.
You ask a lawyer.
You ask the head of the DOJ.
jordan holmes
Which is him.
alex jones
At that time being confirmed.
And he gives you the perfect lawyer answer that a judge or a detective wants.
He gave you the absolute boom spot truth.
dan friesen
Again, he didn't answer the question that was asked.
So this argument is stupid.
This just doesn't make any sense.
jordan holmes
And a lawyer.
There are so many lawyers who've come out and said, No!
Wrong!
dan friesen
This is bad!
So Alex is just way off base with this assessment.
unidentified
Yep.
alex jones
In the campaign, in that function, no meeting with the Russians!
dan friesen
Again, he used campaign funds to go to the RNC, which takes him outside of his role as a senator and puts him into the context of being a part of the campaign.
jordan holmes
I think we've hammered this point home.
dan friesen
Alex is lying.
alex jones
That!
They turned that!
Total truth!
Into a lie while Hillary and her people are all in the Russian and Communist Chinese payroll.
And I had former congressman, ranking member on the House, or vice head of the Armed Services and Homeland Security Committee, telling you he saw the secret documents, and Hillary's basically a Russian agent and a Chinese agent, and he's getting ready to bring it out.
Now, he hadn't come back on yet.
He kind of blew up on air.
He stomped out during the break.
dan friesen
He didn't.
He's talking about that interview.
jordan holmes
My favorite moments are always whenever he says something and you just come back quick with, Nope!
dan friesen
I watched that episode.
It was the one where, this is a clip from the What a Difference a Day Makes episode.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
This was the Kurt Weldon interview that he did with, it was Jerome Corsi was over Skype, and Kurt Weldon did say some of this stuff.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
That, like, he believes that Hillary is Chinese.
Surrogate.
Or whatever.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
She's working for the Chinese government.
And he did imply that he had information that he was going to come out with.
jordan holmes
Did he come out with it?
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
Oh!
It seems really important for that second part.
dan friesen
Also didn't storm out.
He had a meeting to get to.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
That they discussed at the beginning of the interview.
He's like, thanks for taking some time with me.
I know you have a meeting to get to.
And so he doesn't storm out.
jordan holmes
And that's when he stormed out.
dan friesen
He's not mad in the interview.
jordan holmes
After he got the exit line, he was like, and now...
It's time to go!
dan friesen
He says that Hillary works for the Chinese and that his family had been threatened in the past.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But he provides no evidence of either of those things.
He has a meeting, so he just leaves.
jordan holmes
I mean, he did have polonium poisoning for a while, right?
dan friesen
No, there's another guy.
So, anyway.
That's not...
Alex's characterization of that interview with Kurt Weldon is just not true.
jordan holmes
Not true.
dan friesen
It's absolutely not true.
He wasn't freaking out on air.
He wasn't yelling about this stuff.
Him saying that his family had been threatened was the vaguest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life.
And Kurt Weldon didn't seem all that worked up about even his family being threatened in the past.
jordan holmes
Very blase.
Like, yeah, they threatened my family, but you know what?
Fuck it.
dan friesen
Who has it?
It's all in a day's work.
unidentified
Hell!
jordan holmes
I've threatened my family.
It's no big deal.
dan friesen
Yeah, it feels like that.
But Alex is making a fucking mountain out of a molehill here.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he's like, oh, anyway, he says some more stuff.
But I wanted to pause it just to explicitly say what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And how he's full of shit.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
alex jones
Like, just angry.
And said, I'm going public, Alex.
Well, okay, Kurt Weldon, we need you.
Because they're threatening him going, don't you release that classified hearings?
They had classified hearings, and they decided it was too bad for the country to come out that Hillary was a Chinese communist agent.
She was paid off by the Russians, but they weren't running her.
dan friesen
Wait, what?
jordan holmes
So...
Oh, okay.
Now we're in some whole other...
Okay, so Hillary is a Chinese communist agent.
dan friesen
She's an agent.
jordan holmes
But she was also paid off by the Russians.
dan friesen
Yes.
Well, the Russians thing is he's talking about the uranium deal.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's talking about that that he's completely misrepresenting.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
There was a Canadian company.
That ended up, they had access to like 20% of our uranium.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And they had a deal with Russians.
jordan holmes
Wasn't that whenever Trump gave that press conference and he was like, hey, you guys know what uranium does?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's some bad stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You can make...
Get nuclear weapons out of it, guys.
dan friesen
A nuclear war is a bad thing like no other.
jordan holmes
Like no other!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, at the very least, it's up there.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it was a deal.
jordan holmes
It's almost as bad as climate change.
dan friesen
It was a deal between a Canadian company that owned these resources that happened to be in our country and Russia.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Or a Russian company.
And it had to be approved by our government.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It was basically a formality.
And Hillary Clinton, even as the Secretary of State, had no authority to stop it.
As I understand it from everything I've read up on the deal...
jordan holmes
She's like eight steps removed from it?
dan friesen
The only person who could have actually been like, no, absolutely not, would have been Obama.
unidentified
Right.
She really doesn't have standing in terms of this.
dan friesen
I assume that's what he's saying about the, she's bought off by Russia, but she's actually a Chinese agent.
jordan holmes
How hilarious would it be if...
If what had happened instead is if Hillary got elected, instead of this chaos with Russia, the exact same shit plays out just with China running the government instead.
dan friesen
That'd be wild.
jordan holmes
We were screwed no matter what happened.
dan friesen
I would love it if Hillary became president and she's like, first thing on my agenda, let's turn the rest of those frogs gay.
Something like that.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why aren't more presidents deadpan in their first address?
alex jones
I've had former high-level and current CIA people say, yes, Alex, you're right.
Hillary is a Chinese agent.
And it's come out, though.
It was in the news.
They're Chinese communist agents.
Forget the Russians!
Okay, the Russians have a lot of great science.
They're great people.
They've got a lot of corruption, though.
They have the GDP of Italy, folks.
The Russians aren't the threat.
The Chinese communists are out of control, and they've bought off our government.
And this whole thing about Trump is to restore America.
Do you understand that the intelligence agencies or branches of them that are patriots are the ones that rebelled against this alliance with China and the communists and the Wahhabist Islamists and said, that's too far.
We're getting behind the people.
And Trump was put in by the voters and the patriots in our government, not the Russians.
Trump was put in by Alex Jones and the listeners of this broadcast and Matt Drudge.
Go ahead, David.
I'm sorry.
david knight
Alex, when they did this to Flynn, I said, what they have just done is a self-inflicted wound while they're swimming in water with sharks.
unidentified
And they're going to come after them again.
david knight
And that's precisely what they're doing, trying to twist this into something that it wasn't.
alex jones
As you point out, he said, yeah.
I'm in Washington.
david knight
There's a Russian ambassador in Washington.
I meet with him a couple of times who didn't talk about the campaign.
And I think the same thing is true of Flynn.
alex jones
When this was, he's talking to him.
It's all admitted.
Once he stood down, they go, oh, of course it was no big deal.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's the best David Knight's ever been, because he's clearly feeding off of Alex Jones' energy.
dan friesen
He's like being a meat dog.
jordan holmes
He's trying so hard.
He's like, I gotta get as many words in as possible because I'm about to get run over.
dan friesen
You can see in all of their faces, Owen Schroyer was in another studio, so there was a picture in a picture, so he wasn't quite as browbeaten.
But Darren McBreen and David Knight were both looking at him terrified.
They both were like, uh...
jordan holmes
Do you think he has gone out back and gotten a switch from a tree and beaten David Knight before?
unidentified
No, I think he's made David get the switch.
jordan holmes
You're right, that's Texas.
That's how they do it out there.
I forgot about that.
dan friesen
Go get a switch.
jordan holmes
Go get a switch, boy, and don't make it too small.
dan friesen
So, I mean, this one ended with a nice lie at the end about how, like, once Flynn stood down, everyone's like, hey, no big deal.
No, it's not no big deal.
It's just now he's not in an official capacity.
We can take a little bit of a step back in terms of investigating him.
And as the investigation proceeds, all of his ties are part of that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
No one is being like, oh, no big deal.
It is a very big deal.
jordan holmes
They're still investigating him.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
It's just not that he's stood down.
He's just not in the news about it.
dan friesen
He's not in the government anymore.
He's not the national security head.
So that's why people are like, okay, we can breathe a little sigh of relief.
This guy who's clearly in some fucked up shit, he's not in the government.
We can deal with him at our own pace.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that's why it feels like people don't care.
It's because we have other people we need to get out of that government.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, so many.
So many.
dan friesen
We need to get banning out real hard.
jordan holmes
We need to get almost all of the government out.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is there any...
So, I've been reading the Constitution.
Can we add...
dan friesen
Humble brag.
jordan holmes
It took a while.
dan friesen
There's the humble brag.
jordan holmes
There's almost, like, a thousand words in it.
Yeah.
Can we all agree to add an amendment that just says, like, If we get enough votes, we're going to do a do-over election.
Like, can we get a do-over clause in the Constitution?
dan friesen
I mean, we've talked about this, the idea of being able to vote no confidence.
Like, the public being able to vote no confidence.
I think it would be a really good addition.
jordan holmes
Well, the only problem is we're still relying on the public to know what's going on, and they're the ones who fucking put Trump in there in the first place.
dan friesen
Well, not based on strict numbers.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Who cares?
Here's some more shit about Sessions, and he lies about what happened to Flynn.
alex jones
If he'd have said, as a U.S. ranking senator on the Armed Services Committee, as the ranking Republican, have you met with the Russians?
Well, absolutely.
I've met with one of their top generals.
I've met with their ambassador several times.
Just this year, I've met with some of our generals and some of their military people at a base inspection I attended a few months ago.
Yes, there's a whole list of that in my file.
You can see my itinerary for the last few years.
Posted at US.gov, you know, Senate sessions.
Boom.
It's all right there.
These are public meetings.
These are completely above board.
jordan holmes
Are they?
alex jones
I looked it up.
Chuck Schumer's met with the very same person.
unidentified
Public.
alex jones
And we're trying to find photos of him together right now.
All of them have.
But they're going to say, well, I know we've met with him.
He lied about meeting with him.
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
And the Republican Party told Trump.
jordan holmes
Jinx.
alex jones
And Pence told Trump.
They said, just let us have Flynn.
And this will get them off your back.
And before Trump can even get rid of the plan, just resign.
And now, they're going after sessions.
Doesn't matter if Sir J. Kislock sat with the Democrats during the speech and is a known handler of Democrats for decades.
Doesn't matter.
They'll try to blame a guy from Alabama who's as patriotic and Americana as basically John Wayne.
jordan holmes
I believe that's code for white nationalist, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Pretty sure that's code for white supremacist.
dan friesen
When he talks about the Russians being the handlers of the Democrats for decades, he's talking about the 40s.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's talking about stuff that happened when my parents weren't even alive.
jordan holmes
Eh.
dan friesen
So it's like, okay, right, great.
jordan holmes
I mean, sure.
dan friesen
Sure, great point.
jordan holmes
Not really.
dan friesen
But also the Democrats were against civil rights at one point.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
You know, I don't...
Things change.
The whole parties, the history of the parties, as a party, both of them have gone so far back and forth as times have changed.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
And people have switched from one to the other that it's kind of like that old...
Well, it's like even your body.
Yeah, exactly.
Every seven years, you're a completely different human being, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
So, to say, like, oh, the Democrats from the 40s are the same as the Democrats of today is stupid.
dan friesen
That's precisely the point.
jordan holmes
Or the Republicans are Lincoln's party, and you're like, no, they're all racist now.
That's it.
The end.
Problem solved.
dan friesen
To make an argument and appeal to 70 years ago, 60 years ago, you're just...
I mean, you're not even trying.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're not engaging with reality.
jordan holmes
You know what?
That's a lot like if you were to make an argument about how, you know, let's say slavery still has effects and you're like, well, you know, I wasn't a slave owner at the time.
Well, it's like, well, yeah, I wasn't a Democrat in the 40s, so fuck off.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
It's like, even if you make your point successfully, Alex, it doesn't matter.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Who cares?
Also, he pitches one of his nice fantasy role-playing scenarios in there, where he is like, Pence and the Republicans came up to Trump, and they were like, just give us Flynn.
As if it's the people in Judea being like, give us Barabbas.
It's like, what are you talking about?
jordan holmes
I like to imagine them actually being shadows on the floor and then rising up out of the shadows right behind Trump, just going...
And we will take Flynn as your first sacrifice.
dan friesen
Everything will be fine if you give him Flynn.
Like that, no.
Maybe, maybe.
jordan holmes
It's a sacrifice to the gods to get fair wins, right?
dan friesen
Maybe if Trump's advisors are fucking stupid.
jordan holmes
Which?
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Which?
Why are you saying maybe?
dan friesen
Well, I'm saying it's a possibility, but if you had...
jordan holmes
I'm saying it's a certainty.
dan friesen
If you had a bad advisor who didn't know what he was doing, it's possible that he was like, all right, look, just fucking give him...
Let Flynn go, and this will all boil over.
It'll all blow over.
jordan holmes
Which, as we talked about the moment it happened, or right before that happened, that was a terrible strategic move.
dan friesen
Right, but that's not like an indictment of anything other than bad advice.
That's not like some sort of a setup or something like that.
That's just someone who had his ear, possibly.
And I don't even buy that.
I don't fucking buy any of this.
Anyway, let's get to our next clip.
It's a lie.
jordan holmes
I'm starting to see a running theme on the Alex Jones freakout show.
Maybe he lies a lot.
dan friesen
He can't engage with anything real because if he does, he has to talk.
If he's actually doing news...
He has to talk about all that stuff we talked about at the top.
The Kushner situation.
The Page situation.
The world shrinking in on himself.
So he has to get distracted by anything that comes up to fit the bullshit narratives.
jordan holmes
And yet he's coming to this with all the anger of the world shrinking in on him.
It's really kind of fun.
dan friesen
Much like Trump's tweets on Saturday morning, you just see paranoia and anger in him.
You can feel it in him.
You can feel it in Alex.
jordan holmes
If Trump had any good advice, any good advisors, he wouldn't have a fucking phone anywhere near him ever.
dan friesen
Instead, he has one in front of him until 2 in the morning.
jordan holmes
All the time!
dan friesen
Where he answers calls from weirdos.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
According to Alex.
jordan holmes
Along with the 60s switchboard.
dan friesen
So this clip is Alex responding to a video that someone had posted online.
Of a guy in Muslim garb in the UK getting into a little bit of an altercation with a guy.
I've watched this video about 20 times now.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
It is not at all what Alex describes it to be.
But I'll let him say his piece before I describe what is actually going on in the video.
alex jones
He does kind of shift gears once he's called the racist.
dan friesen
He's talking about the guy, they have a little bit of an argument, and this very huge white British guy calls the Muslim guy racist, because he's like, the Muslim guy says, and I have no evidence he's Muslim except for his outfit.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So I feel bad even making assumptions.
jordan holmes
Could be wearing a costume.
dan friesen
Well, you know what I'm saying.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We don't have all the information.
But this guy is like, he does say you look like pork.
To the guy.
So he's like, that's racist.
And that's what Alex is.
jordan holmes
I mean, does he look like pork?
dan friesen
Sure, he's the other white meat.
Anyway, we'll get again into why I think that is okay in this context.
But I needed to give a little bit of setup because we go in media res a little bit here.
alex jones
Because he understands this is the power that's made the lion lay down to the mouse.
He understands that.
Just like the mayor of London.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
alex jones
So he then runs over to attack the woman to try to spit on her and to try to hit her and does hit her.
It's a short clip, but it just illustrates everything of this guy anywhere in the United States, unless he was in Berkeley or other areas where they only have chicken necks for some reason, this guy would have been laid out, his jaw broken, just like that.
His nose would have been smashed in really fast when he hit a woman.
But see, men have been trained, whether it's in Germany, you name it, to allow women to be attacked, to be, you name it, because the new culture of being a Western male, I don't care if you're white, Hispanic, what you are, is to be a cuck.
jordan holmes
Cuck!
alex jones
Is to be a coward that lays down.
jordan holmes
Everybody take a drink.
dan friesen
Exactly, that's another drinking game.
Whenever Alex says cuck, you take a drink.
alex jones
Unless you're a mass of other liberals, then you attack women.
So, you will know them because they attack women, whether they're Islamicists, whether they are trendies, whether they're black bloc, whether they're Black Lives Matter, anarchism, it doesn't matter.
They revel in attacking the Blue Cat Cafe, Cat Sanctuary.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
What's the Blue Cat Cafe Cat Sanctuary?
dan friesen
I was so thrown off by that that I had to look it up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds crazy.
dan friesen
So the Blue Cat Cats Cafe is a business in Austin, Texas.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Where people can go and drink coffee and hang out with cats.
That sounds like a fun business.
As I understand, you're able to adopt some of the cats, too.
It's sort of like a humane society.
jordan holmes
But it's also like a hangout kind of...
Oh, that's kind of cool.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
It's like a dating spot for cats.
dan friesen
I found this article from October 2015, which is obviously what he's talking about, but very delayed.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Because there's no other...
jordan holmes
It's breaking news.
dan friesen
There's no other news.
jordan holmes
He's breaking the news.
dan friesen
The Blue Cat Cafe's opening on Sunday, or Saturday, excuse me, was greeted by a group of protesters who were rallying against landlords' F&F real estate ventures.
The cafe's building is adjacent to the site of the controversial demolition of piñata store Jumpolin, which was also...
It's fucking East Austin.
jordan holmes
This is the most Austin thing you could read.
dan friesen
They have a pinata store.
And it's controversial that it's being demolished.
jordan holmes
God bless you, Austin.
I love you so much.
dan friesen
Keep it weird.
jordan holmes
I love you so much, Austin.
dan friesen
So, this pinata store, Jumpa Lynn, was also owned by F&F Real Estate Ventures.
That lot is now being used for the cafe's parking.
FNF, run by Jordan French and Darius Fisher, attempted to host a South by Southwest party in March and create a food trailer in February at the address, but failed on both accounts.
As I understand, they couldn't get permits or something like that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So anyway, East Austin...
jordan holmes
Just like basic government shit.
dan friesen
Austin is an incredibly weird city, and I have a little bit of insight into it because my parents live there.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And my dad is kind of...
He's pretty involved in a lot of...
He always used to be very into anti-Iraq war protests and stuff like that.
He's engaged with the community.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And there is a massive problem of gentrification around Austin.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
There's a lot of buildings that are being put in in areas they shouldn't be.
There's a lot of destruction of classically...
Diverse businesses.
The premise of a piñata store, first of all, is crazy.
unidentified
I can't imagine the need for piñatas is that high.
jordan holmes
What market research could you possibly have done for a piñata store?
dan friesen
I don't know, but it's great.
jordan holmes
That is great.
I want to live in a world where piñata stores are on every block.
dan friesen
I would love it if I walked down the street and saw a piñata store.
jordan holmes
Fuck Starbucks.
Give me a piñata and a latte and I'm good to go.
dan friesen
If I saw a piñata store, I would buy a piñata.
I have no use for it, but I would have to.
jordan holmes
You would have to.
dan friesen
So this thing about them attacking the cat sanctuary is really about the problems.
Of gentrification in Austin.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And a bunch of independent businesses and low-income housing are being destroyed in order to put up condos and parking lots for South by Southwest.
jordan holmes
Like how the fucking world is happening right now.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
And there's a lot of people who are very mad about that.
My dad is...
jordan holmes
Justifiably so.
dan friesen
My dad is involved in some community...
Boards?
I don't know.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I can't speak specifically about what he does because I don't know.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
It's not a secret.
I just don't know.
jordan holmes
It's in the white papers.
Read up on it.
dan friesen
But I know that he's gone to a lot of protests in terms of maintaining businesses and neighborhood controls of stuff.
And so that's what this is about.
jordan holmes
Did they hit a woman?
dan friesen
No.
Oh, we'll get back to that.
The Muslim clip.
We'll get back to that.
jordan holmes
No, no.
I mean, because isn't that what he's...
He's referencing there that trendies and liberals...
dan friesen
In terms of the cat cafe?
jordan holmes
...hit women.
They hate women.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
So why did he bring up the fucking cat cafe then?
dan friesen
We'll get back to it.
I just wanted to give an explanation of what he was talking about.
unidentified
All right.
Gotcha.
dan friesen
There were these people who were protesting the demolition of the business next door.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And unfortunately...
jordan holmes
The pinata store.
dan friesen
And unfortunately made it slightly unpleasant for people who wanted to go to the cat cafe.
But, it's like, so they were chanting outside, pet your cat, sip your tea on the ruins of Jumplin.
jordan holmes
Alright, fuck you, Austin.
dan friesen
Save East Austin also were a lot of the signs and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
That's the worst chant I've ever heard.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And the argument of the protesters were, the cafe's animal welfare work doesn't mean it's excused from accountability to a community that obviously is going through struggles.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
It's a fair point.
Now, the Cat Sanctuary, their argument was, we wish for the best for the business owners next door.
It's not our job to save every business.
jordan holmes
It's a capitalist system.
For better or worse, that's the world we live in.
dan friesen
Both sides are right.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Basically.
Yeah.
Alex takes it as like these Antifa black block protesters are attacking this cat sanctuary because they hate nice things.
alex jones
They hate these cats.
dan friesen
So, anyway, he says more about it here.
But I just wanted you to have a...
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
dan friesen
Because otherwise you'd be like, what the fuck is he talking about?
jordan holmes
What the fuck is he talking about?
alex jones
And protesting it every week.
And knocking the windows out and putting superglue in the keyholes and stuff so that people can't get in and the cats starve to death.
They revel.
jordan holmes
He's totally put superglue in keyholes before.
He's just revealing that he has, in the past, put superglue in keyholes.
dan friesen
We were all young once.
alex jones
In bullying whatever's weakest.
That's their spirit.
And so this is what the government of England thinks it needs more of.
unidentified
this.
You're not allowed.
Yeah?
You're not allowed.
alex jones
Hey, wait a minute, guys.
unidentified
You said you had that bleeped.
alex jones
The problem is we have to delay that.
All of it's cussing, so we can't play it.
Can we get the part where he talks about you look like pork?
dan friesen
That's what Alex is most interested in is a nice catchphrase.
But, like I said, I watched this video many times trying to suss out exactly what was going on.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because I did not understand exactly what was going on at all.
dan friesen
Okay, so basically there's two cars and the Muslim guy's car is in the front and it's clear that the guy has just hit his car.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So there is probably a minor fender bender going on.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And the guy, the video starts with the Muslim gentleman.
Taking a picture of the guy's license plate and getting harassed by the white guy.
jordan holmes
Okay, so we're off to a good start in supporting Alex Jones' ideology, right?
dan friesen
The video doesn't include exactly what the white guy says, but...
jordan holmes
I can assume it's great.
dan friesen
I'm sure it's offensive.
jordan holmes
I'm sure it's just, hey, excuse me, sir, I would love to pay for the damage to your car.
dan friesen
Also, the white guy, I mean, he seems...
Unrepentant about, or unapologetic at all about the fact that they have gotten in a little accident.
jordan holmes
Sounds like it.
dan friesen
But it starts with the Muslim guy saying, I'm allowed in this country.
jordan holmes
So we can assume that the first thing the white dude says is something along the lines of...
dan friesen
Get the fuck out.
jordan holmes
Get the fuck out of my country or something like that.
dan friesen
It's probably selective editing.
I bet the original clip that was never...
I bet...
There's a longer version on someone's phone that isn't online that has him saying something fucking atrocious to this guy.
So the Muslim guy is mad, but he's not mad because he's an evil Muslim who wants to invade your culture.
He's mad because he just got his car hit, and this guy is being a total asshole to him.
jordan holmes
And the level of existential fear that that guy has to have now every single day.
If I ever lived with that kind of level of people are all day, every day on TV shouting about how I'm evil in a very personal way.
I would not be shocked to see me lose my shit.
dan friesen
His face is in that video, too.
jordan holmes
Even if that guy was fine, I would still be terrified.
Like, you're reacting like a...
Like, yeah.
So, I understand why we're angry.
dan friesen
His face is in this video, and the video, I legitimately could only find it posted on accounts that were like, see how evil Muslims are?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Nobody had it posted in, like, a positive light.
But if you actually watch the clip, the only acts of violence he does...
He does say you look like pork, but that's after he's clearly been insulted, and that's kind of fun.
jordan holmes
It is kind of fun.
dan friesen
It's whatever.
jordan holmes
That's not...
How is that racist?
alex jones
I think...
jordan holmes
I feel like that's more about fat, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, he is a kind of fat, tall dude.
jordan holmes
It seems like it's more like, hey, you're a fat dude.
dan friesen
Even if you want to make the argument that it's racist, fine.
jordan holmes
But also, that's like signaling, you know, like, hey, I hate you.
But I would never eat you.
dan friesen
I'm not offended by it either because I know that if I were in the situation, I would approach this guy like, I'm so sorry I hit your car.
unidentified
Right?
dan friesen
I'm so sorry.
jordan holmes
That's the first thing you would say.
dan friesen
Would you like to trade information?
And then he would never say you smell like pork or anything like that.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
That insult wouldn't come out unless he was being attacked, which he clearly is in the video.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's insane.
So he ends up knocking the girl's phone camera, which is what Alex is saying.
He hit her.
He doesn't.
He knocks her camera, and because of how videotaping works on a phone, whenever you hit a phone, it looks like someone has fallen over.
jordan holmes
Destroyed, yeah.
Oh, you killed her!
dan friesen
Yeah, it just like...
jordan holmes
And she was doing it portrait style, too, not landscape.
Well, then she's...
I'm immediately not on her side.
dan friesen
And so this guy and the Muslim guy getting a little bit of a stare down.
He's like, what are you going to do?
That sort of thing.
They're just standing...
jordan holmes
They're doing the bro fight bullshit.
dan friesen
Right, and that deteriorates, and the lady starts saying, you're not allowed!
Which obviously is in response to him being like, I'm allowed in this country.
jordan holmes
Of course!
dan friesen
And she's saying, you're not allowed.
jordan holmes
Right.
Because you're not white.
dan friesen
He is offended by that, goes up to her.
I can't tell exactly if he was going to spit on her or if he's just so worked up he ends up loogying a little on himself.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He doesn't spit on her.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
He just has some saliva come out of his mouth.
And then he is like, get that phone out of my face.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I don't think he does anything wrong.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, he's, like, the worst thing I can, like, in my estimation, the worst part of that is the whole bro stare down bullshit.
Like, at any point in time, he did have the option of being like, fuck you guys, I've got your license plate, I'm just gonna get the fuck out.
Sure, but then it goes back to- That's the only thing I can think of, but that's just dude shit, that's not Muslim anything.
dan friesen
No, that's toxic masculinity.
jordan holmes
We should be angry at dudes!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's just dudes.
jordan holmes
Every Muslim thing that they say is bullshit, it should just be like, hey, no more dudes!
dan friesen
Well, that's why it always comes back for Alex about cucking and stuff like that, it's because- It is an attack on his masculinity.
It is sexual for him in some ways, which is really fucked up.
I don't understand.
I agree with you that there is a better way to have dealt with that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I don't think he's wrong to be mad at all.
jordan holmes
And in no way am I saying I would have dealt with it that way.
I'm just saying, like, now in the perfect quiet of this situation, I can say, here is the best...
Yeah.
I'm not saying that if I had just had my car hit and somebody had just come up to me...
And exploited the very fear that they have been told every single day on TV is coming for them that I would react in a reasonable and logical manner.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I would almost certainly lose my shit.
dan friesen
That drives me fucking crazy.
I hate it.
jordan holmes
And they're blaming a religion for that?
dan friesen
Yeah, I hate it.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck you.
dan friesen
Let's go to a couple of quick lies here.
Get them out of the way.
This one is about the radio stations.
jordan holmes
The quick lies section!
alex jones
Trump said the fake media, that is the MSM, is the enemy of the American people.
They are the enemy of humanity, folks.
And it's just a prima facie truth.
darrin mcbreen
Well, they're losing control of the media because of independent media and because of the Internet.
I mean, these six big corporations that control 90% of everything you read and watch on television, they need to capture the internet.
They need to gain control of the internet.
So that's what they're trying to do with this as well.
alex jones
That's right.
Let me tell you what they've done to us.
Again, we don't even list all of our affiliates anymore.
I've asked GCN not to.
unidentified
Because the old tried and true tough ones, we put them up.
alex jones
Because they don't mind.
They just might threaten them or whatever.
It's just a bunch of bull, you know, 100 times out of whatever.
jordan holmes
We don't list those because there are not as many of them anymore.
dan friesen
Also, in episodes as recent as a week or two ago, Alex has claimed he doesn't still work with GCN, Genesis Communications Network.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So he's just clearly lying.
He's absolutely lying because he wants to take some heat off that the Genesis Communications Network is a gold sale scam that has morphed into a...
jordan holmes
Pill sale scam.
dan friesen
Exactly.
He wants to take a little bit of distance between the two, but if you're paying attention, he just said that we are put through the GCN network.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
In his bumpers that come back from commercial, he's like, on the GCN network.
jordan holmes
So he's trying to go both ways there.
All right.
I like his style.
I like his bald-faced bullshittery.
dan friesen
But anyway, he has more bullshit about these radio stations being threatened, which is fucking hilarious.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
alex jones
Very rarely is it serious.
But new ones, we learn so they don't get boycotted or threatened.
We just don't list our affiliates.
They're in their local area.
Everybody's hearing them.
The word's being spread by our listeners.
And then the globalists can't even find out who to go after because they don't have the intel.
And that's how we've gone over 250 affiliates now from like 170, 180 being on our top was not listing the affiliates.
I had that feeling a few years ago.
We started doing that.
It's really worked great.
We talked to the affiliate managers at the stations.
They get it.
They understand it.
They understand what's the point of me nationally saying who you are.
It does nothing for you.
I just say, locals, support the stations, spread the word there.
The enemy never knows, and they can't go after them.
Again, this is a war, folks.
This is hardcore.
dan friesen
So, that's a lie.
Here's another lie.
Knowledge Fight is now syndicated on 4,000 radio stations.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit, are we?
dan friesen
We don't list them.
Why would we?
unidentified
Well, look, because then Alex Jones will be able to fucking find us.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
We're on literally every fucking radio station in the country.
jordan holmes
Dude, we're on the internet, and that's like the biggest radio station.
dan friesen
Right.
Anyway, the idea that the global...
jordan holmes
I mean, although David Knight does make a good point about the fact that six...
dan friesen
That's Darren McBreen.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's Darren McBreen?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right, fuck them.
They're the same shitty tone of voice.
dan friesen
Side Alex.
jordan holmes
Side piece Alex.
No, there are six corporations that own everything.
That's bad.
dan friesen
No, it is.
jordan holmes
I don't like it.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
I agree with him there.
dan friesen
That's an issue that needs to be addressed.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And you know what?
They are trying to own the internet.
They are getting rid of net neutrality.
They are letting corporations...
unidentified
Trump seems fine with that, though.
jordan holmes
And Trump is for it!
dan friesen
Yeah.
But the idea that, like, the global...
jordan holmes
It would be really ironic if all of the things Trump...
Like, all of this blows over.
Trump gets his whole agenda, and because of that, Alex Jones gets kicked off the internet.
dan friesen
That would be...
jordan holmes
That would be the most ironic thing I can think of.
dan friesen
I would write, like, ancient Greek-style tragedy about that.
Like, I would write...
jordan holmes
Icarus flew too close to the Trump.
dan friesen
You laughing would be the chorus of the entire play.
But this idea that if we don't list the affiliates, then they won't kick us out.
But here's the deal.
When I was younger...
jordan holmes
How easy is it to find those affiliates, though?
dan friesen
Well, if you're local, you fucking know they're there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You could just ask around.
dan friesen
When I was about 20 or so, maybe a little bit older than that, timeline's a little vague in my life, but I was in college, I believe.
Anyway, Michael Savage had started saying a bunch of really violently Muslim...
Anti-Muslim stuff.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
And my dad is a religious studies professor and is very plugged in with all the communities.
And along with the Muslim community in town, he was involved in a campaign to get Michael Savage taken off of the local radio station.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
It was a grassroots local thing that happened.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It was not the globalists.
jordan holmes
Wasn't that?
It wasn't censorship.
It was just, hey, we don't want this here.
dan friesen
Yeah, you...
You make money off of him.
We don't want to be a part of this.
He is awful.
And it was successful.
They got the show taken off the air.
jordan holmes
Great!
Capitalism!
dan friesen
Right, but so his argument that it's the globalists coming in and targeting little local radio stations and stuff like that is bullshit.
jordan holmes
Well, even more bullshit is the idea that the globalists, because he doesn't listen, the globalists with their nigh-on infinite resources...
Still can't find him.
dan friesen
Right.
That's stupid.
jordan holmes
How could you?
dan friesen
That's fucking stupid.
jordan holmes
The only way you could find him is if Alex Jones listed him.
dan friesen
And I don't believe for a second that radio stations have been threatened and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
Because they...
jordan holmes
But if you're...
He would say that very protest that you just described...
Is threatening the radio station.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's what he's saying.
dan friesen
Or it's, yeah, he would probably paint it as globalist forces invading free speech.
jordan holmes
He stopped listening to them because there are a lot fewer of them.
dan friesen
Yes, absolutely.
But it's not censorship.
It's a community that feels threatened and offended for no reason.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And they just will not put up with it.
They have every right to not.
jordan holmes
Yeah, which is great.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's a fight for dignity, you dumb fuck.
jordan holmes
It's a knowledge war for fights.
Dignity.
dan friesen
Here's a lie about Ted Turner.
alex jones
What?
You've got mega death.
jordan holmes
Why?
alex jones
You've got giga death.
So they killed 7 million of us.
Now Ted Turner says he only wants to kill 80%.
So that means there'd be hundreds of millions left, which I think is quite gracious of him.
And of course, as the culling takes place in the next few decades, You'll be able to grovel to them properly and show them that you've been subservient.
Perhaps you'll be allowed to live or be given some of the cures for the diseases they've been dumping out and pouring out upon us.
jordan holmes
He sounds like it's catching him.
Right now, he sounds depressed.
This whole nightmare scenario is him being like, oh, they're about to get me.
There's only going to be hundreds of millions left because they're about to get me.
dan friesen
They're going to take out 85% of my money.
unidentified
Once they get me, then everybody goes down.
jordan holmes
He's seeing the writing on the wall in the tone of voice that he's got right here.
dan friesen
Well, possibly.
I mean, he talks a little bit more, but we can cut the rest of this clip.
It doesn't matter.
What's really important is this idea that Ted Turner wants to kill 80% of the public.
jordan holmes
Wait, so that was the first thing he said was Ted Turner?
I didn't hear that part.
I just heard he wanted to kill 85%.
That's true.
That's a good point.
dan friesen
So he says that Ted Turner wants to kill 80% of the population.
alex jones
What?
jordan holmes
Does he explain a reason?
Does he give a reason?
dan friesen
In 1996.
jordan holmes
Yes!
dan friesen
Ted Turner did an interview.
jordan holmes
At the height of the Atlanta Braves.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
When Ted Turner roamed the earth like a god.
dan friesen
He did an interview.
He owned the WCW back then, too.
unidentified
He did?
dan friesen
Yeah.
He did an interview with Audubon Magazine.
Where he...
jordan holmes
So the white paper.
dan friesen
He said that an ideal population for the world would be about a 95% reduction in population, which is even more extreme than what Alex says.
But if you just take that snippet, it sounds bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But what he proposes is actually that how we should achieve that is over the next hundred years, encourage everyone to have one or two children.
In order to massively decrease the rise in population that we're having.
jordan holmes
Which is a terrible idea, as we already saw in China.
alex jones
Agreed.
jordan holmes
Is the worst idea.
dan friesen
Agreed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's not about killing tons of people.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
It's just about being more judicious in terms of our future.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if he wanted to pull a who wants to kill 85% of the population, he could have gone with literally any of Bill Burr's specials.
dan friesen
Now, another thing that Ted Turner says...
Very clearly is all of it has to be voluntary.
He says that repeatedly.
He says all of these ideas would have to be implemented voluntarily.
I don't want to force people to do these things.
So that takes away a whole lot of Alex's head of steam.
alex jones
Now, beyond that...
jordan holmes
That's still a weird interview to give, though, right?
That's a weird conversation to have.
dan friesen
And that's what I want to get to.
Beyond that, Ted Turner is crazy.
jordan holmes
That's right!
I forgot about that!
Ted Turner's batshit insane!
dan friesen
Yeah, so, like, it's not a nefarious I-want-to-kill-the-world argument as much as it is a crazy person with a fairly reasonable idea that could never be implemented.
jordan holmes
Not a great idea, but it's not terrible!
dan friesen
One of my favorite Ted Turner quotes was he was talking about his life, and he was saying, like, I believe the question was about his, like, frequent marriages.
And he was like, You know, at the end of the day, you live, and look, I never did anything with any kids.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
I'm slightly paraphrasing, but that's a great quote.
jordan holmes
All right.
I mean, you know what?
Not all of us could say we're so lucky.
dan friesen
He's right, though.
Like, the spirit of what he's saying is right.
It's like, you want to insult him by getting married multiple times.
Like, you know, we fucked up our marriages and stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know.
dan friesen
There's nothing morally wrong with that.
jordan holmes
Hey, do you know how many genocides I've committed?
Very few.
dan friesen
Goose egg.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, he's Ted Turner.
Who knows?
dan friesen
We are coming up against it because I know that you have to get out before too long.
jordan holmes
I got plenty of time.
dan friesen
Okay, I'm going to cut a couple clips that aren't important.
But let's get to this next one where I think Alex is again talking about himself.
This is another massive distraction tactic from the real issues.
This is stupid.
Very, very, very stupid.
So stupid.
alex jones
Man, this is such a deceptive, manipulative thing.
We've got to stop this.
We've got to do something about this.
These people have got to be stood up against.
I mean, they've been caught lying over the years, so they're just quadrupling down.
Now, speaking of dehumanization, I've got several articles I want to get to here coming up at the start of the next segment that really ties into what Owen's about to hit on.
And we've got the article that we're going to be showing on screens.
We can scroll through that for TV viewers.
They're not just degenerating the family.
They're not just saying there's a hundred new genders and if you're male or female, that's bad because that hurts people that are the other genders.
So the original gender is hurtful.
So that can't exist.
They're now having body augmentation or changes that's going past people getting all these face surgeries and things until they look like the cat lady.
It's now saying, oh, I'm an alien.
I'm not even human.
I'm a celebrity.
It's turning yourself into a carnival show, Barker, a carnival show freak show, so that that's how you, quote, make a living, is not being part of the human system, so humans look at you and think there's something wrong with you.
And what the system's doing is taking mental illness, in many cases, and also making it fashionable and cool.
This is another psychic, psychological virus they admit that they've injected into society to confuse everyone.
Then they have the corporate media hold it up as if it's something beautiful and powerful to further accelerate the downfall of civilization.
But humans can organize together, recognize the disease and the filth, the poison grapes, the poison berries, and teach others not to eat of them and go away from the poison fruit.
We're right back in the Garden of Eden.
We had the knowledge of good.
We weren't dumb.
It's the knowledge of evil is the virus of mental illness.
dan friesen
So that's stupid.
jordan holmes
Okay, so let me try and get through the...
dan friesen
Are you going to try and parse this?
jordan holmes
I'm trying to bounce from point to point the way that he did, alright?
So 100 genders, that's bad.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
People are getting body modifications to look like aliens.
dan friesen
There was a story that came out about a guy who went under, got surgery to become a genderless alien.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm cool with that.
dan friesen
I'm fine with it, but it's also, the media does not.
jordan holmes
He just read Transmetropolitan.
That's exactly what he's describing right there.
dan friesen
But also, the media doesn't hold up that case and be like, look how awesome this is.
jordan holmes
No.
I mean, I would.
I think that's kind of awesome.
dan friesen
I think most of the reports about this are much like that girl who got plastic surgery to turn into a Barbie doll.
Or Octomom.
That wasn't surgery.
jordan holmes
There have been guys who...
Willingly castrate themselves because they just don't want to deal with that.
dan friesen
That doesn't sell as well.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But there are these instances of people...
jordan holmes
I'm definitely sure that Alex Jones would never even acknowledge the existence of men who would willingly do that.
dan friesen
That's so anti-male.
jordan holmes
Then he's going with the don't eat the poison fruit.
Right.
Which, again, he does not understand the whole point of that whole story whatsoever.
It's hard to...
The whole point is you can't.
Have the knowledge of good without the knowledge of evil, and the knowledge of evil without the knowledge of good.
You don't get one or the other, you have to have both.
So once again, he does not understand his own theology at all.
dan friesen
No, he doesn't.
But he also, in a little bit here, he's gonna really make it clear he doesn't understand any theology.
But yeah, it's just stupid distractions.
There was someone who got surgery to publicize themselves, and he just was like...
Oh, man.
I gotta turn this into something about the globalists.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's just someone who had a fucking weird idea, did it.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
Let them live their life.
unidentified
I don't give a shit.
jordan holmes
Out of 7 billion people, we got one guy who's like, I want to be an alien?
That's a really good ratio.
dan friesen
And it's not like the government has to pay for it.
It's, you know, the guy paying for surgery to make himself look weird.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Also, I've been...
I had to start looking up Ted Turner quotes.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
I couldn't stop myself, but I found a...
Look.
I'm a very good thinker, but I sometimes grab the wrong word.
I say something I didn't think through adequately.
I mean, I don't type my speeches, then sit up there and read them off the teleprompter, you know?
I wing it.
unidentified
Sounds like a guy that Alex Jones would absolutely love!
dan friesen
Sure, it sounds like they're philosophical brothers.
jordan holmes
It sounds like they're really, really good friends.
dan friesen
And I'm not against that.
I'm not against him like, eh, sometimes I say the wrong thing.
jordan holmes
But here's my favorite.
If people get all the sex they can handle, they're so happy and content they just sit around and smile.
I mean, you never feel aggressive after you've just gotten laid, right?
Lots of sex for everybody.
That's the solution to all the world's problems.
dan friesen
I am into Ted Turner.
jordan holmes
I like Ted Turner now.
I like a good Ted Turner.
And then somehow, inexplicably...
And this is in 78. This is prior to all of these other quotes.
Ted Turner, where's the upside in opening your mouth?
dan friesen
He is actually a cautionary tale about that.
jordan holmes
40 years later?
Ted Turner in The Guardian.
I've got a virtually limitless supply of bullshit.
dan friesen
That might be because he owns a bunch of bison.
jordan holmes
It could be.
dan friesen
He has buffalo.
Anyway, this next clip is fun and wrong.
In this clip, Alex speculates that basically most crime isn't real.
unidentified
In defense of human liberty, Alex...
dan friesen
Also, I gotta stop it because we have another fucking song that's awesome that he uses.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Which is George Strait's Amarillo by Morning.
jordan holmes
Alright, alright.
I'm fully on board there.
dan friesen
I had to tweet about it the other night.
jordan holmes
You say George Strait, I say I'm in.
dan friesen
Amarillo by Morning.
That song is so good!
Why does he use these awesome songs?
jordan holmes
He's from Austin.
Why does he love cat cafes?
He's a man of many contradictions.
dan friesen
He doesn't like the cat cafe.
He just uses it as a bullshit example.
jordan holmes
I bet he loves the cat cafe.
dan friesen
How could you not?
alex jones
You know, Trump told the Attorney General of the state, when you guys pull me this article, thanks.
On Monday, before the speech, he said, I'm going to decry these Jewish sinners being attacked and these tombstones getting knocked over.
But we need to investigate this being a false flag because the media was blaming it on Trump.
Infowars.com has this story.
I haven't seen anybody else report on it.
Paul Watson was just texting me saying, why aren't you coming?
jordan holmes
They didn't say that Trump himself went to Jewish community centers.
dan friesen
Or even Trump supporters.
jordan holmes
And defiled graves.
dan friesen
They weren't saying even Trump supporters.
jordan holmes
No, they were just saying, people, we've seen an uptick.
Maybe that has something to do.
It could be coincidence.
Correlation is not causation.
We all know this.
However, it does seem highly likely that an uptick in anti-Semitic rhetoric and an anti-Semite in the White House Does kind of say that it emboldens anti-Semites all over the place.
dan friesen
Literally the first president since World War II to not mention the Jews when talking about the Holocaust.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Like, that's not an accident.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And when you have people who are already anti-Semitic, they feel like, fuck, it's game on.
jordan holmes
Now we got one of our own in there.
Now we can play the game.
dan friesen
Also, in the same way that Alex Jones feels like now is the time to strike against the globalists.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
These anti-Semites, you're like, There's never going to be another opportunity.
We have to go now.
jordan holmes
And the idea of a false flag Jewish person defiling cemeteries is so silly.
dan friesen
Well, unfortunately, there was...
jordan holmes
Was there?
dan friesen
Not the cemeteries.
jordan holmes
Not the cemetery.
dan friesen
But a couple of the bomb threats were a guy trying to fuck with his ex-girlfriend.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he wasn't Jewish, though.
dan friesen
No.
But that came out, and that is unfortunate because it gives some credence to the idea that all the other ones are also fake.
jordan holmes
That guy was a former Intercept reporter, and he was fired.
dan friesen
Your good friend Glenn Greenwald.
jordan holmes
He was fired because he made up quotes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So we already know this dude is fucking making shit up whenever he wants.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
We could have seen that one coming just a little bit.
dan friesen
The reality that we have to deal with, and I think is fair for us to deal with, is...
Dickholes on the left and the right are both assholes.
jordan holmes
Dickholes is dickholes!
Once again, not left or right.
Dudes!
dan friesen
It's dudes!
jordan holmes
Dudes are the issue!
dan friesen
This guy is jilted by his ex and calls in bomb threats to Jewish centers to fuck with her.
jordan holmes
Which is again, not a left or right issue.
That is dudes!
dan friesen
But it's very similar to the beginning of Gamergate.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no shit.
dan friesen
So this is the fucking awful cycle that we're trapped in now.
Basically, is these really angry dudes.
jordan holmes
Toxic men.
dan friesen
Right.
And then you have Alex Jones, who's fucking way on that tip.
jordan holmes
Way on it.
dan friesen
Trying to...
jordan holmes
Cupcake!
Cupcake!
dan friesen
Trying to misrepresent the news that's happening in order to fit that narrative.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And it's...
Once he starts doing all this, like, all these racial crimes are fake.
I've never seen white racism.
unidentified
Ugh.
dan friesen
Also...
jordan holmes
But Nazis are totally not racist, except they're happy with me.
dan friesen
And then pitching white genocide-type narratives.
I believe when Tyler Snodgrass was filling in for you, he asked me if Alex was a supremacist.
And at the time, my answer was, I don't have enough information, I'm not sure.
jordan holmes
And at this time, as of press time on this episode, you betcha.
dan friesen
I don't think it's a definite yes.
But man, I'm much closer.
unidentified
His behaviors are very difficult.
jordan holmes
Is he going to say he's a white supremacist?
He's going to say things that suggest he's not a white supremacist, and yet every action we see, every argument he makes, as opposed to every...
And I'm just saying we should treat people the same, but black people are way more racist than me.
All of his arguments.
Are always white supremacists.
All of the things he does are always white supremacists.
So whether or not you say, you know, it doesn't matter if you say, like, hey, I don't care what kind of color skin you are.
Or even if you're cool with your black friend that you don't fucking have.
dan friesen
The proof of the pudding is in the eating, as the expression goes.
Anyway, let's finish this clip, and then I think we have time for two more after...
jordan holmes
Oh, we got time for a few.
dan friesen
Okay, good, good, good.
I'm just, you know...
Listen, let's pull back the curtain.
You have a show tonight.
I don't want to ruin that for you, but listen, Alex Jones be at the door.
jordan holmes
Okay.
He's a-knocking.
alex jones
Yeah, I saw it this morning.
I didn't see it in my stack.
Somebody print me that.
Thank you.
dan friesen
Also, he's trying to make the argument that this news about...
The guy who called in the bomb threats as a way to fuck with his girlfriend is saying that no one's reporting it and everyone is reporting it.
jordan holmes
Everybody is reporting it!
dan friesen
Yeah, so anyway, here we go.
alex jones
Turns out it is a pro-Obama, anti-Trump operative.
Man arrested for Jewish, sinner, bomb threat is an anti-Trump Muslim convert.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, it's not hard for Trump to be proven right again.
I'm not going to exaggerate.
95%.
jordan holmes
Real laugh.
alex jones
I was going to say 99%.
There's been a few.
Of the race attacks that we see out there are false flags.
In fact, a lot of times it'll be a white woman saying four black guys raped her and, you know, she'll cut her face.
I saw that, you know, then it's not true.
She did herself.
And then a black woman says five white guys did it and it's fake again, you know.
I mean, it's people do it for attention, man.
It's bad.
It's an epidemic.
They teach this in the feminist classes that all sex is rape.
So, you know, if your girlfriend breaks up with you, you can decide to retroactively say you were raped.
There was a court case where they just no-billed it with the DA here in Austin where that went on and the girl got mad and, you know, said, I'm going to say you raped me, reportedly.
And so they've dropped the case.
I mean, this is scary, folks.
This is social justice warriors for you.
Owen Schroyer.
dan friesen
This makes me so sad.
That clip made me so fucking sad.
jordan holmes
What in God's name is he talking about?
dan friesen
95% of race attacks are false flags.
jordan holmes
95%!
dan friesen
Everyone just wants attention.
jordan holmes
95%!
dan friesen
Rape is fake.
jordan holmes
All sex is rape.
All sex isn't rape!
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
There's no way!
There's a lot of rape!
dan friesen
There is.
jordan holmes
But that's not all sex!
dan friesen
A lot of it's a false flag.
jordan holmes
Is a lot of it...
95% of it is a false flag?
dan friesen
I mean, Alex doesn't believe in, like, rape culture.
He doesn't believe in, like, the idea that there are...
jordan holmes
No, he just participates in it.
dan friesen
He doesn't believe that there's unreported sexual assaults on campuses and stuff like that?
jordan holmes
There's so many unreported sexual assaults.
dan friesen
It's absolute insanity on this part.
jordan holmes
It's a goddamn...
The Baylor shit is a...
It's a...
Men!
This...
The entire...
The entire theme of this episode is...
Alex Jones is blaming everyone but who's really at fault, which is dudes.
dan friesen
That's not this episode.
That might be the show.
jordan holmes
That might be his entire show.
dan friesen
You're right.
But yeah, I mean, he gloms on to a couple examples like he was talking about.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you know what?
Maybe this entire show is, like, all of this is a distraction from toxic masculinity.
dan friesen
I'm becoming more and more convinced that's what it is.
jordan holmes
Like, every single Islam is against women.
No.
Dudes.
Dudes.
Yeah.
The whole thing.
The whole thing is any possible distraction from the fact that a lot of dudes are pieces of shit.
dan friesen
Yep.
And they do bad shit.
Anyway, I mean, he brings up the Duke lacrosse thing in there.
That's what he was referencing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the Rolling Stone cover story.
unidentified
The four white dudes.
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's what he was referencing.
And yeah, sure.
That was bad.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Cool.
jordan holmes
So are all the rapes.
dan friesen
Yeah, just because one...
jordan holmes
So there are...
Okay, so we got four on the board of falsely accused of rape, and then we've got, I don't know, 10, 20 million on the board of accused of rape and not facing any consequences for it at all.
dan friesen
The best actor and our president among them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah!
dan friesen
So, like, it's just...
jordan holmes
Oh, it's funny because we're all fucking monsters.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's almost impossible for us to unpack, but I just...
I can't say enough how much I really hate his interpretation of the world.
jordan holmes
It's awful.
It's tragically bad.
dan friesen
Anyway, I have to choose my spots here.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because we, you know, we gotta get in what needs to be got in.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And this next clip that I'm going to play...
Is so fun.
This one's fun.
It's another lie.
This one is a lie about him meeting a military psychologist.
jordan holmes
How would you lie about that?
dan friesen
You're going to find out.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
And then in the middle it gets super weird about, again, kind of masculine issues.
jordan holmes
Dudes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
We're on over 200 radio stations, so we don't let cuss words go out.
We're still under FCC regulations.
Obama wants the FCC to run the internet, but guess what?
He's not president anymore.
And so we enter into the next problem.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we know.
dan friesen
I apologize.
I pulled up the wrong clip.
jordan holmes
They're blaming so many things on Obama and Hillary, and it's like, they've got nothing to do with nothing anymore.
Why are you still blaming them?
Find a new boogeyman or something.
dan friesen
And that shit's still going.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, here's the right clip.
alex jones
I was talking to a former army psychologist just yesterday here at the office.
He was telling me, he goes, the same thing that that head of one of the big four banks.
This guy was the head of the fourth largest bank.
That famous conversation I had for three hours on a plane from Austin to New York on American Airlines, going to be on The View.
dan friesen
It was a famous conversation he had.
jordan holmes
Famous conversation.
dan friesen
Fuck you, Alex.
jordan holmes
Well reported.
dan friesen
He's trying to steal my catchphrase.
jordan holmes
Hey, you know what, Alex?
Draymond.
dan friesen
He's trying to steal my catchphrase, though, because I often say that I famously did things.
He's fucking jacking my shit.
jordan holmes
You didn't come up with that.
I'm not saying...
dan friesen
I famously came up with that.
alex jones
And he said, Alex, you think people will adapt and overcome to fight the new world order in our system?
They're going to adapt and overcome to submit.
They're going to give in to whatever we do as long as it's incremental.
And the guy had listened to the show, and he was here visiting his dad that was a retired general.
And he said, this is off-the-record talk.
So we talked about an hour and a half, and he couldn't convince me.
And then he didn't want to talk to me more.
I was arrogant at the end.
But that's the whole way of these guys.
And I had to get it.
He got up in the suit.
It was perfectly still crisp.
Got his black prince coat.
Looked totally perfect.
I don't know how he did it.
You know, it's how these guys do this stuff.
You know, just he had it all down.
jordan holmes
Arrogance all of it.
alex jones
But you know what?
He's getting his ass kicked now.
I was talking to this army guy, and he wasn't arrogant about it.
He said, you know, our military loves to fight and loves to kill.
But he said, they don't do that because they're bad.
They didn't do that because they started out that way.
They have to.
You have to adapt to it and get to where you like it, or it destroys you.
And the men that weren't destroyed were the ones that got to where they liked it, and the ones that are destroyed are the ones that never adapted to it.
And he said, and that's what they do with the public, is they basically do bad things to us and then get us to adapt and accept it.
It's like with really smart people, that's the highest knowledge, is that those of us that see all this stuff, we are not submitted.
We're trying to adapt and actually overcome it for people and build a better system.
But a lot of people think they're cool, they just roll over or go along like, Well, neither do I!
dan friesen
Do you understand any of that?
jordan holmes
I'm trying to.
I kind of think he has a good point, but it's only applicable to how the GOP has managed to convince people to vote against their own interests by hating trans people.
dan friesen
Well, if you extrapolate, yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But what I glommed on to in that clip way more is, first of all, these conversations didn't happen.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Of course not.
jordan holmes
Why would you be impressed by a guy who gets up and is wearing his clothes fast?
dan friesen
Looks great.
jordan holmes
Is it like a quick change artist?
Is that what he's excited about?
dan friesen
No, what he's saying is he got up and everything looked crisp.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Even though he'd been sitting down for an hour on a plane talking to him, talking to Alex, he just gets up, everything looks crisp.
He's got a great suit.
jordan holmes
He's got a great suit?
dan friesen
What I am more interested in...
jordan holmes
Alex Jones is a star fucker.
dan friesen
There's two things that I'm fucking interested in in this clip.
One is the idea that he's glorifying the idea of being cool with killing.
Like, the idea that the military likes to kill people, and in order to be successful, you have to start to like to kill people.
Even for a military, that is not something I'm comfortable with.
I like the idea of killing having to be done, sometimes judiciously, by the military.
I do not like the idea that they're like, we love killing people.
That's fucked up.
jordan holmes
I don't like anybody who says that.
Period.
dan friesen
Because it's wild.
The second thing is, he talks about this military psychologist.
He had a talk off the record, which I think means he's breaking that...
jordan holmes
He means he bothered that guy.
And then he's like...
And now I'm going to tell you about this conversation I had that I told him he wouldn't be.
No, it just means that he's not putting his name out there.
dan friesen
He doesn't understand what being a journalist is, though.
He shouldn't be saying the specifics of the conversation if it was off the record.
But that's not the important part.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
The important part is that he's talking to this guy.
He's fucking arrogant.
jordan holmes
He's a chicken neck.
dan friesen
He's so arrogant.
jordan holmes
Only chicken necks are arrogant.
dan friesen
Then he talks to this military guy.
jordan holmes
He's a man.
dan friesen
He's not arrogant.
jordan holmes
He's a dude.
dan friesen
He, Alex, has such a fucking problem with people being arrogant and, quote, thinking they're better than me.
He's so caught up in that idea of, he's projecting so much about, like, oh, these people think they're smart, they're better than me.
Like, that's in your head, asshole.
jordan holmes
I swear to God, I still believe, I'm starting to be more and more convinced by this.
If the people, like, if the New York Times would just be like, Alex Jones, we think you're so smart.
So long as you talk about that...
Like, if we just push him in the right direction...
Like, with Trump, there is a part of me that believes if we give Trump positive feedback...
dan friesen
And candy.
jordan holmes
In certain...
Like, with the speech, when he sounded presidential or whatever...
dan friesen
Yeah, they decided not to put out that executive order the next day.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly!
It's like, if you give him positive feedback, maybe he'll start to do...
We could push him in the...
Because he just wants people to like him.
dan friesen
I don't want a baby president.
jordan holmes
So does Alex Jones.
dan friesen
He just wants people to like him.
I don't want a baby president.
I don't want a baby propaganda.
jordan holmes
I don't want either of those things, but that's what we've got.
dan friesen
It's not what we've got.
jordan holmes
We've got to do something.
They're children.
They're small babies.
dan friesen
I legitimately think that it's possible that by the time this episode is aired...
jordan holmes
We will have a new president?
dan friesen
No.
But the situation on the ground will be different than it is...
Just on Saturday.
This episode comes out on Monday, and I think that tomorrow could be a wild day.
jordan holmes
During the recording of this episode, neither of us have checked Twitter.
It might be an entirely new situation by the end of the recording.
dan friesen
It's very possible.
Alright, so I've got one more clip I'm going to play, and this one is about ten minutes long or so.
We can break it up, but the reason that it's important is that Alex loses his shit about money.
While talking about not caring about money.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
While accidentally being literally sacrilegious.
He talks earlier, he said it earlier in the show, this is a Christian program, we don't cuss on it and stuff like that.
What he says in this next clip, literally I think everybody who goes to church...
Should be shocked and horrified by what he says.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We'll talk more.
jordan holmes
You're really giving people who go to church a lot of credit on this.
dan friesen
I've gone to church a lot in my life.
jordan holmes
Me too.
dan friesen
I feel like the people that I knew wouldn't like to hear this sort of thing.
jordan holmes
I believe in my heart of hearts there are no depths of depravity that people who go to church won't be fine with so long as they don't...
dan friesen
And you just used the term heart of hearts.
That's church credibility.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Anyway, here we go.
jordan holmes
I know the language.
dan friesen
Here's a nice sales pitch that goes bad.
alex jones
We're pulling out and they're like, we'll march in the UU army!
Well, go ahead then!
darrin mcbreen
And they always have George Soros.
alex jones
You know, we'll march in Black Lives Matter to shoot you.
Well, then just get it going then.
darrin mcbreen
You want a damn fight?
alex jones
Let's go, you bastards.
darrin mcbreen
Yeah, you got George Soros and all the paid protesters.
And then you have the media that covers this like it's a good thing.
And so, I mean, we do have a fight on our hands, folks.
alex jones
All I'm saying is I'm not giving up.
And you see how far we've come.
darrin mcbreen
Let me tell you something.
alex jones
You decide you're going to have this victory, folks.
We can't be beaten.
I'm going to skip this network break because there may be a show soon if we don't get this together.
I'm going to say something to viewers right now.
dan friesen
So he's skipping a break.
jordan holmes
The phrase word in edgewise is very, very applicable.
dan friesen
He's skipping a break, which would be a commercial break.
And now watch how he just gets impassioned, and it's a nine-minute commercial.
jordan holmes
No!
He can't possibly pull that up.
alex jones
I know for a fact that we have over 40 million people that listen to the streams, listen to us on radio, and that watch us on YouTube and Facebook and other platforms.
43, 44 million people a week.
jordan holmes
Not true.
alex jones
Big weeks, it's higher.
And then I sit there and I think I'm doing good jobs if I'm selling a thousand t-shirts a day.
jordan holmes
I don't give a rat fat butt.
Excuse my French.
alex jones
About five dollars or four dollars we're making on each shirt.
I care about those shirts in the streets.
But I've got to fund myself so I try to make five dollars on them.
We have the new Trump Pence 2020 shirt.
Will it save the world?
No.
But this movement will with God's help.
You get enough people instead of a hundred thousand people like the last t-shirt.
It's like 90-something thousand on the street.
You get a million people on the street with Trump as my president.
We're about to sell out of those.
Or Trump Pence 2020, Keeping America Great on the back.
It says America First in 7076, Infowars.com.
It will send shockwaves across the country.
So listen, I do not want to sit there and have the crew go, wow, we're selling a thousand plus shirts a day.
You know, in a hundred days or something.
We'll break the last record.
Thank you to those that did order.
They're the people that get it.
I'm not bitching at the listeners.
I'm saying if you want to win, call that local station and become a sponsor or send them $20 a month.
Stop tithing to the big fake churches that won't fight where you go worship the stupid demon preacher.
We need to be tithed to in the info war.
God wants freedom.
dan friesen
That's literal sacrilege.
jordan holmes
$5 shirt in the streets?
$20 shirt in the sheets.
You know what I'm saying?
dan friesen
You heard that he asked people to tithe to him.
jordan holmes
And I will tell you this.
I'll tell you this right now.
There is a full-on Christian justification for it.
dan friesen
Really?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Go for it.
The megachurches.
The whole thing.
Everything that he's talking about.
dan friesen
The prosperity gospel.
jordan holmes
The prosperity gospel.
The giant churches.
That is sacrilege.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Because it's done in the name of the Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.
dan friesen
You give us money and you'll have more money.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Which is the most brilliant lie I've ever been part of.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That's amazing.
dan friesen
Pastor Creflo A. Dollar.
He's not even hiding behind it.
unidentified
His name is Dollar.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Now, your point, though, is that the word tithe to him is the big one there.
dan friesen
That's big.
jordan holmes
That's a big one.
dan friesen
That's fucked up.
jordan holmes
That is fucked up.
dan friesen
Because tithing is giving 10% of your money to the church.
jordan holmes
To the church, yeah.
dan friesen
And it's specifically to create good works.
jordan holmes
But again...
Again, see, there you get into the biblical.
The church is not the building.
The church is the people.
dan friesen
The community.
jordan holmes
And if InfoWars is doing the good works, well then InfoWars is your church, my friend.
InfoWars is the community.
dan friesen
And all of these churches are just demon preachers.
jordan holmes
They're demon preachers!
Like the dollar guy!
Yeah, but he's not- Who might as well be dressed in that late 90s commercial where the guy's getting you tax grants and all that shit.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
The guy who looks like the- Money, money, money!
Money, money, money!
dan friesen
Yeah, but I think that that is...
First of all, we have Alex morphing into basically a propaganda arm for a political candidate.
At the same time, morphing into...
Is he going to try and get tax-exempt status?
He's turning this into a church in front of our eyes.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's how he makes it through this whole ad roll thing.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
That's how he does it.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
Hey, if L. Ron Hubbard can do it...
Well, Alex Jones can't do it.
No.
No, he can't do it.
It's too late for that.
dan friesen
He's also not creative enough.
But as you discussed, I'm back on the page of thinking that there is an angel investor.
But anyway...
jordan holmes
His sales pitch is so transparent and lame, and he's trying so hard to make it not.
dan friesen
And it goes...
jordan holmes
I don't even care if we sell a thousand t-shirts.
I want a million t-shirts in the streets.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't care about all this money that you're giving me.
I want you.
To wear these and make a movement.
Now, admittedly, that means you're going to give me a lot more money.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But that's not the point.
dan friesen
He's waffling between those two ideas for this entire clip.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But there's one point where Darren McBreen, who's in there, tries to talk about a point he wants to make and just gets shut down so hard.
So it's just...
Let's play this out.
jordan holmes
Let's let this fly.
alex jones
He wants to promote justice.
And so I'm telling you, if you're somebody that's poor, Just spread the link.
Spread the articles.
Reach out to people.
But if you're middle class, I wouldn't buy just one shirt.
Buy a hundred in different sizes.
Give them to people.
Or sell them.
Be an entrepreneur.
Sell them for $15, $20.
Trump shirts are popular.
dan friesen
That's basically multi-level marketing.
jordan holmes
He's doing it.
unidentified
He's doing it.
jordan holmes
The pyramid scheme?
dan friesen
Yeah, basically.
jordan holmes
God damn it, I love you, Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Buy a bunch of shirts and sell them to people.
jordan holmes
You fucking lunatic.
dan friesen
Look, these shirts move.
Just fucking get them and you'll be fucking rich.
That is the prosperity gospel.
jordan holmes
That's the prosperity gospel.
Buy a hundred shirts.
alex jones
Go sell them at your local.
Resell them.
I don't care.
Just get the shirts out to people.
dan friesen
I honestly think that it might be an indication that he has too many shirts.
jordan holmes
I was going to say, yeah.
dan friesen
It might be like a, we gotta move these shirts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he might be on the, like, everything, 45% off.
That's fair.
I don't know.
We're going out of business.
dan friesen
He's also started a new thing where if you sign up for their newsletter, they send you half-off coupons for a new thing every day.
jordan holmes
Oh, they are really...
But that means to me it's data mining.
Now we're going back on the angel investor thing.
Everything he's doing does kind of make it sound like he's broke.
dan friesen
No, I'm still waffling myself in the middle of trying to parse exactly what is going on.
I think there is some brokenness.
I think he took a hit.
But I don't think there's a fucking chance that he's going to be screwed within the next even year.
But here we go.
alex jones
I would cut my right arm right off with a meat cleaver to defeat the New World Order right now.
I mean, I'm not suicidal.
I love life so much, but I'd jump into an inferno, into a volcano, if I knew it would defeat the New World Order right now, no thought, no way, into the volcano.
darrin mcbreen
Alex, when we went to the pro-Trump rallies all across the country, full of Infowars, sure.
I mean, it's like every fifth person.
alex jones
And then we recruit the other Trump people that are awake and the Republicans that are starting to wake up.
Here's why it's good.
It's a recruitment arm for liberty.
It shows the MSM the real power.
It shows the Trump people the real power to keep them honest.
And it also exercises free speech in the face of the bullies, but also people that are scared see all the signs and they see all the shirts and they see the bumper stickers and they see what you're saying.
They see you wearing your colors.
darrin mcbreen
They don't feel like they're alone.
alex jones
We're a military.
We're a movement.
This is the uniform.
Trump, Pence, 2020.
darrin mcbreen
Remember I told you I had a conversation with my older brother who's a traditional Republican, establishment Republican kind of guy?
unidentified
In a minute.
alex jones
I've got to say this.
Soros is trying with hundreds of millions and billions of taxpayer money to defeat Trump now.
The fight's on now.
It don't end every three, four, five years, two years, new elections.
It's on.
The war is now.
Tell folks about your brother that thinks he's part of the establishment.
dan friesen
I love that so much.
alex jones
In a minute.
dan friesen
So dismissive.
jordan holmes
So dismissive.
dan friesen
You can kind of tell a lot about somebody by how they treat people they work with and how they sort of interact in these comfortable moments.
And what we can take from that is Alex does not give a fuck about something when he wants to go.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
When he wants to get on the roll, it's gotta go.
jordan holmes
Now, admittedly, it's his show.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But no, that's a dick move.
dan friesen
Very much.
jordan holmes
And he's treating him like a child, like a little boy.
Like, he's at the kids' table at Thanksgiving, being like, hey, I also would like to talk about it.
Shut up, boy!
And then gets right back into it.
dan friesen
But he tells him to stop talking about his brother, then dismissively has the, like, let's talk about your brother who thinks he's a part of the establishment.
jordan holmes
Yeah, where do we go from here?
dan friesen
But meanwhile, what Darren McBreen was trying to bring up is maybe a better sales pitch for the shirts.
Because he's like, everyone was wearing them, all the events and stuff like that.
Anyway, we'll get back to it, where Darren tries to pick back up the pieces.
darrin mcbreen
Well, I told him that I was very proud when we went to these pro-Trump rallies that every fifth person had an InfoWars shirt on, and then it seemed like every tenth group, it was a group of ten or fifteen people, and we were like rock stars, man.
They would recognize everybody from InfoWars.
alex jones
Yeah, half, as the Chicago Tribune said, Half the people at the convention were listeners and more than half at the inauguration.
darrin mcbreen
You can just take pictures of the crowd.
alex jones
And we're not bragging about it.
The point is people are awake.
You've had an effect.
You're awesome.
darrin mcbreen
Well, I told my brother about that, and this was before the election, by the way, and he says, well, little brother, I don't really see how that's helping him too much.
alex jones
No, he's part of the system.
darrin mcbreen
Meaning, you know, well, you guys are crazy conspiracy theorists, and I don't think it's helping Trump too much that you guys are representing.
Well, we see how that worked out.
alex jones
And I don't want to knock your brother.
unidentified
He thinks he's part of it.
alex jones
Here's what I'm saying.
I'm not complaining.
I'm telling you, folks, I had no idea how these Hillary for President shirts would take off.
I had a feeling it would be popular.
And everybody copied them, so millions ended up being out there.
And so, yeah, copy our shirt, Trump Pits 2020.
If you're a t-shirt maker, I don't care if it's our own design.
If you're a t-shirt maker, send us your email.
We'll send you our template in HD, our design, or make your own.
dan friesen
Everybody make these.
unidentified
And then we will sue you.
alex jones
Sell them.
I don't care.
It's not about selling these.
dan friesen
That's a honey trap.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
alex jones
It's about cheating people that think they're going to stop us.
I mean, I don't have a competitiveness about other successful people.
I have a competitiveness about dirtbags that think they're going to dominate me and my family or you and your family.
And I'm ready to go.
darrin mcbreen
But you're talking about George Soros.
He's not going to stop.
He's putting all kinds of money into this.
alex jones
Here's why I'm fighting so much harder now.
I know we're going to win now if we just really push through.
Before I was doing this, it was the right thing to do.
I hoped we could win.
I know we're going to win if we just take action and never give up!
unidentified
I'm ready!
jordan holmes
Who is he trying to convince?
alex jones
I know right now there's over a million people metered that we have over a million right now on our platforms tuned in right now.
If every one of you went and bought a $9.95 shirt, We'll hire a third-party company.
We can't handle that.
We will sell a million of these.
If you don't procrastinate, if you do it, InfowarStore.com.
And if you will just get the t-shirt, $9.95, you'll get four or five bucks to help fund our operation depending on the size of the shirt.
That's what we make off of it.
We need the money.
We're under attack.
You couldn't believe it if you knew.
It's actually exciting.
I love it.
This is exciting.
unidentified
I love it.
alex jones
I'm here to fight.
jordan holmes
I'm here to win.
alex jones
They make jokes out of that.
They want to make being excited look weak because it's what they're actually threatened by.
jordan holmes
He is Jesse from Saved by the Bell.
dan friesen
He's losing it.
jordan holmes
He is fucking...
He's so excited.
He's so scared.
He's so scared.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Wow.
alex jones
My blood flowing, getting focused, knowing what's happening.
And opening a can of political kickass.
So listen, everybody go get the Trump Pence 2020 shirt or get Trump's my president.
dan friesen
It just goes over and over again, but because we're running out of time, I want to get to the end of the clip because he just fucking loses it so hard.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It's like it's one of the great Alex Jones yells of at least the last three months.
jordan holmes
So this is a new bump for us, for sure.
dan friesen
We're entering new territory.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Percent, folks.
Be like the 5% that won the Revolutionary War of the 3% that started it when the Brits kicked it off.
Take action.
Infowarsstore.com or 888-253-3139 and get that shirt and flood us.
And if the shopping cart shuts down, just stay on there.
Or I don't want to hear excuses.
You don't want to buy it for $9.95.
They got all sorts of third-party sites out there where you can go design your own t-shirt and pay them $14 or whatever and they'll ship it to you.
Just do that.
Or come up with your own t-shirt.
If I see some shirt I think is better than ours, I'll support it.
I'm here to take these people on.
I'm committed.
I'm here to defeat them.
Infowarstore.com.
Get that shirt.
Don't wait.
It's unbelievable.
I mean, we are only hitting on one-tenth of one cylinder.
We got a couple cylinders hitting.
Everybody's going to see the effect, and then we're going to get all the cylinders going, and black smoke's going to come out of those big old chimneys, and then fire's going to shoot out of those babies, and the big old front of that 18-wheeler from hell's going to open up its mouth, and we're going to run these globalist gremlins right down, and they're already scared right now, because liberty's coming, and nothing on earth's going to stop it.
Hour number four!
Straight ahead!
1776 or die!
unidentified
Yeah!
Woo!
jordan holmes
Hour number four!
dan friesen
What's gorgeous about that?
It's so angry.
It's so loud for no reason.
unidentified
What is he?
alex jones
Thrilled about hour number four!
jordan holmes
Hour number four?
The dude is right next to him still, though, isn't he?
dan friesen
Darren McBreen?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, what was his face like?
dan friesen
He was not as excited.
jordan holmes
No.
I don't know if there's a human being alive who could have been that excited.
dan friesen
Also, hour number four is when Alex stops hosting the show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
I'm thinking maybe he just had to pee or something like that.
I don't know.
But anyway.
jordan holmes
Hour number four!
dan friesen
Jordan, this brings us to the end of our lie-packed, nonsense-packed, freak-out-packed episode about March 3rd.
I can't wait for Monday.
I legitimately think he is going to continue this because more news is just going to keep coming out.
jordan holmes
No, this is not done yet.
dan friesen
He can't keep citing stories from 2015.
jordan holmes
Yeah, hopefully we're drinking terrible champagne today.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Hopefully as the news gets worse, the champagne will get better.
I think that's the goal, yeah.
dan friesen
Oh, we'll get some bubbly.
jordan holmes
Oh, top shelf.
If we get to watch Trump get hanged for treason, oh, the best champagne in the world.
dan friesen
I will say this.
jordan holmes
You just did half of the Nazi salute right there.
dan friesen
I had a finger up, though.
I was making a point.
If Trump does get impeached, the next episode of Alex Jones' show that we cover...
I will buy a $100 bottle of champagne.
jordan holmes
I will do the exact same thing.
And listen to our listeners.
We are selling $50 bottles of champagne.
I don't want to hear any excuses.
I don't want to hear you people telling me that the shopping cart shut down.
We've only sold one.
I swear to God, we're broke.
We're broke.
Hour number four!
dan friesen
Also, there's other people who sell champagne.
jordan holmes
Go buy some of their champagne.
dan friesen
All I care is that champagne can get on the streets.
Anyway, people can follow us at knowledge underscore fight on Twitter.
jordan holmes
You can subscribe to us on iTunes, leave a review.
Please leave a review.
Rating?
dan friesen
We have shirts.
jordan holmes
It seems tacky.
Now we can't say that.
No longer do we have shirts.
dan friesen
We have two shirts that are one of them's mine and one of them's yours.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Full respect to Derek Smith.
We can no longer sell shirts now.
dan friesen
You can also email us at knowledgefightatgmail.com if you have any reviews or any feedback.
If you're mad at us, if you think we're globalists, hit us up.
What else?
Anything else?
jordan holmes
No, I think we are just a couple of policy wonks.
dan friesen
We'll see you soon, but until then, we are in the weeds on this policy shit.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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