Today, Dan tells "Replacement Jordan," comedian Justin Golak, all about what happened on the Alex Jones Show on Feb 7, 2017. Topics include: Do Globalists plan to kill us all off in our 90s? What is the gayest instrument? How much coverage of terrorism is "enough" coverage of terrorism? Is there a "Shadow Library?"
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| I'm a policy wonk! | ||
| Hey everybody, Dan here. | ||
| Sitting in to give you a little bit of an introduction before we get into this episode. | ||
| Tell you what's going on here. | ||
| What's going on is Jordan is busy this week. | ||
| Real busy. | ||
| He is way too successful at stand-up comedy. | ||
| And I have therapy one night this week so we could not find a time to record. | ||
| Luckily for you and for all of us, I have this episode that I'm going to release today that I recorded a week or two back. | ||
| With my friend, the very funny comedian, Justin Golak. | ||
| And I'm excited to be able to release it for you. | ||
| To give you a little bit of context, we recorded this episode a little while back. | ||
| And I did not have the time to edit and release the episode. | ||
| And in the meantime, right after Justin and I recorded this episode, when I was about to release it, me and Jordan needed to get back into the studio. | ||
| There were emergency episodes that had to be done. | ||
| And you know how it is. | ||
| There's a forward momentum and a natural narrative that's sort of taking shape with Alex Jones' life. | ||
| As progress marches forward, sometimes things get caught by the wayside. | ||
| But I'm glad we have this opportunity now to double back a little bit and listen to this, because I think this episode is great, and I think you're going to really enjoy it, and Justin is hilarious and fantastic. | ||
| But before I get to this episode, I have a couple things I wanted to... | ||
| Get off my chest first is a very exciting announcement that I'm not going to make now. | ||
| Once Jordan does get back, we have a very exciting announcement to give you, and I look forward to telling you about that, and I don't know why I'm teasing it now, but who cares? | ||
| Second thing, I wanted to take a moment to acknowledge that I may have been a little bit off in my interpretation of the last clip from the February 24th show. | ||
| I've listened back to it a number of times, mostly out of insecurity and fear that I had misinterpreted it. | ||
| I think I might have. | ||
| I think it's entirely possible that my analysis was off. | ||
| Literally off. | ||
| But spiritually, I was not wrong. | ||
| What he says is still horrible. | ||
| What he says is absolutely indefensible. | ||
| You should never, ever encourage people on Twitter to harass anybody, but especially about someone else's children. | ||
| So no matter what the context of that is, absolutely unacceptable, inexcusable behavior. | ||
| But I am a big enough man to recognize and publicly admit that I might have gotten some of the particulars about what he was saying slightly off. | ||
| But to my credit, he does swallow some syllables in there. | ||
| So I'm on pretty solid ground, I think. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| I don't feel better now that I've got that off my chest. | ||
| But, oh well, who cares? | ||
| I am going to feel better here in a moment because I've got this episode to share with you. | ||
| I hope you do enjoy it. | ||
| Again, just thank you to everybody who's been getting on board. | ||
| We really appreciate everybody listening, tweeting out. | ||
| I'm sitting here on a dark and stormy night here in Chicago, and I've been waiting to do laundry all night, and someone's been hogging the laundry machine. | ||
| Only thing that makes me feel better about the fact that I have to go to work tomorrow in dirty clothes is the fact that I know that you guys are going to be out there enjoying this episode, and that means a lot. | ||
| So anyway, here we go. | ||
| Let's get to the episode, but until Jordan gets back and we meet again. | ||
| I'm just a fucking policy wonk, man. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello, Alex. | |
| I'm a first-time caller. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. | ||
| I love you. | ||
| Hey, everybody. | ||
| Welcome back to Knowledge Fight. | ||
| I am Dan, sitting here in the studio with Replacement Jordan, a very funny comedian, Justin Golak. | ||
| Hey, how's it going, everybody? | ||
| How are you doing today, sir? | ||
| Oh, I'm doing good. | ||
| How about yourself? | ||
| Excellent. | ||
| Very much ready to take a journey through a day in the life of Alex Jones, where I have listened to a bunch of InfoWars. | ||
| And you have not listened to this particular episode. | ||
| I have not. | ||
| But you were telling me before we started recording, you've dabbled in the world. | ||
| Oh yeah, I've taken many trips to the battlefield of the Infowars. | ||
| I think I got into him in college. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| I was in college during the W years, which was like a great time to be radicalized left. | ||
| Because you're, like, young, you have feelings, you think you can make a difference. | ||
| You're definitely right. | ||
| Yes, you're so right. | ||
| You know everything, and you're not balanced at all by jadedness or self-consciousness of your ideas. | ||
| You're young enough that, like, Vietnam wasn't real to you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's perfect. | ||
| So, yeah, and, like, none of my roommates or friends, like, really cared either way. | ||
| And then I had one buddy who was, like... | ||
| Very into, like, liberal politics. | ||
| And he was, like, always reading, like, Al Franken's books. | ||
| You remember when Al Franken had all those books? | ||
| Yeah, that one book about him running for president. | ||
| Al Franken? | ||
| It was called Why Not Me. | ||
| Yes, that one. | ||
| It was really funny. | ||
| Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot or whatever. | ||
| Liars and the Lying Liars. | ||
| Yes, that one. | ||
| Yeah, so I dabbled in some of those. | ||
| Listen to Air America when that was a thing. | ||
| Back when Marin was working with Sam Seder? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, those were the glory days. | ||
| Yeah, and then, yeah, that was about where he took me, and then I always had an appetite for more fringy stuff, and then that was like YouTube was becoming new, and I just remember getting into the 9-11 conspiracies. | ||
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Sure. | |
| And then, of course, you're going to find... | ||
| Alex Jones soon after that. | ||
| So you watch Loose Change, and you're like, who produced this? | ||
| I don't even know if I watch that one. | ||
| I think I watch like two off Loose Chains, like worse than Loose Chains things, and then someone's like, oh, you've seen those? | ||
| You should watch Loose Change. | ||
| Yeah, you watched The Obama Deception. | ||
| The Obama Deception, so good. | ||
| 9-11, Road to Tyranny. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's of Alex Jones' great documentary work. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I've seen it all. | ||
| So you've listened a little bit, but it's been a while? | ||
| Yeah, I don't keep up with it really much anymore. | ||
| I strongly recommend that you don't. | ||
| That everyone out there listening, don't. | ||
| Like, I think I told you the last time I really got into him big was, like, in a recent way, it was like yesterday I listened to his Joe Rogan Experience podcast. | ||
| He was on, like, sometime this week. | ||
| That's kind of like required listening. | ||
| Yeah, I always listen to Joe Rogan's podcast anyways, and I have that history with Alex Jones. | ||
| I'm like, this will at least be a fun listen. | ||
| Yeah, I go guest by guest with Rogan. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| But yeah, if you see Alex Jones is on Rogan, you gotta listen. | ||
| Gotta. | ||
| And I'm glad that we did a huge breakdown of that, about how much of a drunk idiot Alex was on that show. | ||
| He got so hot. | ||
| Did you watch the video? | ||
| I did. | ||
| Okay, like he's just, he kept being like, can I take these headphones off? | ||
| And he's like slicking his hair back. | ||
| He's so hot. | ||
| Well, one of the things you don't know is actually Alex, no matter what the temperature is in the studio, has a crazy ear tick. | ||
| He pulls his ear in a really weird way, compulsively. | ||
| So a lot of the headphone stuff, I think, was actually his ear itching. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| I've done some research into what causes ear itching. | ||
| And? | ||
| Nothing definitive yet. | ||
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I was going to say, it doesn't sound like a symptom of anything. | |
| It has to be. | ||
| It's got to be all psychological. | ||
| It's a side effect of taking too much super male vitality. | ||
| His signature product that we are almost certain is a boner pill. | ||
| What is his other thing? | ||
| Is it iron? | ||
| DNA force. | ||
| Well, what's the metal? | ||
| Isn't there some metal? | ||
| He sells colloidal iodine. | ||
| Iodine. | ||
| I think I was thinking iron, yeah. | ||
| Colloidal silver. | ||
| We're going to hear a couple of advertisements for his products here as we go along. | ||
| Oh, hell yeah. | ||
| But let's just jump into it today. | ||
| We're going over the events of Tuesday, February 7th, on the Alex Jones program. | ||
| He starts the show out with a little bit of a... | ||
| Showing of his humanity. | ||
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Okay. | |
| There's been a death in the family. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| And he takes a little moment on the show to honor that and then quickly take it into a weird, weird place. | ||
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Crashing through the lies and disinformation, it's Alex Jones. | |
| Ladies and gentlemen, it's Tuesday, February 7th, 2017. | ||
| And we've got stunning information and documentation. | ||
| Today to break down as we give you the latest analysis of the global war taking place against the huge megacorporations and their attempt to establish an out-of-control, oppressive technocracy. | ||
| Again, I'm Alex Jones, your host. | ||
| Thank you so much for joining us today. | ||
| I'm going to get into all the news, and I mean all of it, coming up in the next segment. | ||
| But first off, I want to talk about something that affects us all, and that's life and death. | ||
| A lot of people I talk to never even get to meet any of their grandparents, much less all four of them. | ||
| And my grandmother was almost 93 years old when she died this morning at about 1.30, and she was still cogent a few days ago when I went and visited with her. | ||
| I want to pause for a second to, you know, I would never make fun of someone for giving it up for their relative, and I feel very sad for his loss. | ||
| I mean that very sincerely. | ||
| I'm not making a joke of this at all. | ||
| RIP, Grandma Jones. | ||
| Yeah, that's very difficult, and sorry for your loss, Alex. | ||
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But... | |
| But she'd had breast cancer for about six years. | ||
| That's not the but. | ||
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Okay, I was like, sounds reasonable. | |
| No, that was just bad timing on my stop and start. | ||
| She'd had breast cancer before, and they'd removed part of her breast. | ||
| She got breast cancer six, seven years ago and decided to not be operated on. | ||
| And that she would just go home when God was ready for her. | ||
| And at almost 93 years of age last night, she went home to be with her Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. | ||
| But the reason it's important is I don't really cry for the 93-year-old woman who I knew my whole life and loved so much and who taught me so much. | ||
| I cry for the 30-year-old woman who went and got the second round of polio shots Brother was nine years old that paralyzed her and almost killed her and took her years to be able to walk again. | ||
| And she was a beauty queen. | ||
| And then I think about the SV40 cancer viruses that were admittedly in that vaccine as well. | ||
| And I think about how they soft killed my grandmother way back in the... | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's a vaccine message. | ||
| I did not see that coming. | ||
| You didn't see the eulogy turning into an anti-vaxxer message? | ||
| No, not at all. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| That's a little weird, huh? | ||
| I mean, that's... | ||
| I mean, if their plan is to kill everyone in their... | ||
| Early 90s. | ||
| 60 years after taking a vaccine. | ||
| Yeah, go for it, globalists. | ||
| I'm fine dying at 93. I'm kind of more planning on 63 myself, so if I go 93, I'm fine with that. | ||
| 30 bonus years from the globalists. | ||
| 30 bonus years. | ||
| Thanks, globalists. | ||
| Again, I don't want to mock the death of Alex Jones' grandma, because again, and that's sad. | ||
| Cancer sucks. | ||
| But I don't know what vaccine... | ||
| Is going to paralyze you for a couple years and then you're fine. | ||
| And then give you cancer decades after. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I don't think that's... | ||
| I think that he's... | ||
| I think that he's possibly attributing coincidence or something... | ||
| He's attributing nefariousness to coincidence. | ||
| You know, something that just happened. | ||
| Oh, I mean, like... | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
| Well, it's like everyone's going to die. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| So you could literally just be like, you could just take someone's death, which is a guarantee to any past thing, and be like, well, that's why they died. | ||
| Again, if your evidence is that they're dying in their 90s, the cause is just being alive then. | ||
| I wish I'd done some research on this. | ||
| I'd love to have the number in front of me of how many people live till they're 90. I'm sure it's a shockingly low percentage of the population. | ||
| No, I think because the average is what, like 76 or 78? | ||
| But then after that average, it's like a huge decline. | ||
| It zips down very quickly. | ||
| And then think about how many people who have been soft-killed live into their 90s. | ||
| That's genius vernacular acrobatics. | ||
| He's perfect at that sort of thing. | ||
| He talks about the dirty dossier, that thing that they put out on Trump. | ||
| Is that the P one? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, the dirty dossier. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They come up with these names that are so amazing. | ||
| Soft Kill. | ||
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Great. | |
| Soft Kill is just like, because again, it's just one of those things where it's like, you know, like you could say, you'd be like, well, people are getting vaccines and not dying. | ||
| That's not what they're doing. | ||
| It's a soft kill. | ||
| You die in your 90s of breast cancer. | ||
| You don't even know. | ||
| It's like, I guess I can't disprove that. | ||
| I know it's wrong. | ||
| That's the thing, though. | ||
| Everything is undisprovable, which is what makes it fun. | ||
| It's what makes it fun when you're high and sitting around and being like, oh, man, what it could be. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But do you think that he can take this, this eulogy for his grandma that turns into an anti-vaccination message, do you think he can pull the triple Lindy? | ||
| And somehow involve his products? | ||
| The Oklahoma City bombing being fake. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yes! | ||
| And near-death experiences. | ||
| Do you think he can work both of those in? | ||
| I'm hoping that he does, because I don't want to be right, because to me, then it's just fancifulness. | ||
| I don't want it to turn ugly into commercialism, him selling iodine. | ||
| So I hope it's the things you said. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| Let's find out. | ||
| The early 1950s show. | ||
| They got her way back. | ||
| In the early 1950s when she was 30 years old. | ||
| Everybody should really think about that and think about what vaccines are doing to people today, especially our military, that are shot up with so many experimental ones as well. | ||
| And I just think about how magic it is to have all these great ancestors and to know that I'll have progeny into the future and I'll be one of their ancestors. | ||
| I just want to deliver for humanity and really build something beautiful and great. | ||
| And so did my grandmother. | ||
| And all four of my grandparents were great, interesting people in different ways. | ||
| I really can't say who my favorite was of any of them. | ||
| But it's just... | ||
| No one asked you to. | ||
| That would be weird. | ||
| That would be weird if you did. | ||
| Especially on your political anti-globalist program. | ||
| Which of your grandparents was your favorite? | ||
| Well, you know what? | ||
| I like Nana. | ||
| But I'd have to say Papa. | ||
| Because he wasn't soft-killed. | ||
| Great that I knew him. | ||
| And I hope that spiritually that I can resonate to the plane that they're going to be on with God and transcend this fallen plane we're on and be with her again. | ||
| She was very, very, a few days ago, she'd be conscious, talking about things, be completely there, and then just suddenly be somewhere completely else, talking to her dead brother and talking to other members of her family. | ||
| So she believed she was already in heaven. | ||
| And I think about Colonel Craig Roberts, who was a Marine Corps sniper and veteran helicopter pilot, investigator, and best-selling author, sniper, one shot, one kill, who exposed Oklahoma City as an inside job and so much more, and the murder of police officers by the Clinton mafia to cover it up. | ||
| And he died for about 10 minutes on the operating table for colon cancer. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| And was there at the portal with the angel. | ||
| The decision was made to send him back. | ||
| They'd already walked off and he came back to life. | ||
| And atheists, even people that don't believe in God, and people that are in other cultures, they have that same near-death or death experience. | ||
| So just know this, there's a lot going on in this world, but I just want my grandmother to know that I love her, and I appreciate her, and I can still feel her presence now, just like I can feel my first grandparent that went, Jerry Jones, my dad's dad, back when I was only six years old. | ||
| And it's just good that I will carry them forward with me. | ||
| I hope my children will carry forth my energy and my spirit with them just as they carry my genetics. | ||
| And so let's just all think about our fallen grandparents and, of course, our parents and everyone we love. | ||
| But, you know, the most important thing to do is to reach out for the young today that are under all the GMO and all the chemical attack and all the cultural attack and defend them because that's who really matters, is the young. | ||
| So, I think that would be a great opening segment if he cut out about two minutes in the middle and that last part. | ||
| If he wanted to just jump on the show and talk about his grandma, great, but you know, like, I don't, I don't, I can't get on board with you politicizing the death of a 93-year-old. | ||
| Just can't do it. | ||
| It's so much. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's dense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And, you know, we can't really... | ||
| I made a mistake opening the show with this. | ||
| In the same way that he made a mistake opening the show with it, I did as well. | ||
| Well, you can only open how he opens. | ||
| We can't make fun of that, really. | ||
| Without attacking his grandma, we'd never want to do that. | ||
| So let's get to some, like, real politics. | ||
| Okay, let's bring it up. | ||
| He doesn't bring up his grandma again for the rest of the show, so we're fine. | ||
| This is a little clip about some people being sneaky. | ||
| Okay. | ||
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In government and the media trying to... | |
| Basically, he's mad at the media through most of this episode. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| First off, there's a tactic that the mainstream media is using where they pretend that InfoWars is discredited and not cutting edge, and then they connect that to Trump and pretend that he's discredited, hoping to split Trump off from his base. | ||
| Now, Trump knows they're doing this, but they every day say Alex Jones is Trump's brain. | ||
| Trump gets everything from Alex Jones. | ||
| No. | ||
| Trump has agreed with me on a few things that are overwhelmingly documented. | ||
| Trump is his own person. | ||
| I don't say that because I don't want to sit here and make the president mad. | ||
| I say that because it's true. | ||
| But clearly, they're trying to hurt Trump by driving him away from his base. | ||
| It's not working. | ||
| He's delivering in spades. | ||
| But every day, I see scores of these articles. | ||
| Infowars is behind President Trump's idea that the media is covering up terrorist attacks. | ||
| The Washington Post. | ||
| Then they show headlines where myself, Paul Watson, and countless others, but they only show a screenshot, so you can't go see it for yourself. | ||
| It's a screenshot. | ||
| Where we go show where police chiefs, the FBI, you name it, are told to cover up the fact that Islamists are carrying out attacks, just like San Bernardino. | ||
| Now, the truth is, Trump has trolled the media when he spoke at Central Command in Florida yesterday. | ||
| at their headquarters because he knows they'll bring all this out now and lose this debate. | ||
| Also, I want to tell you this. | ||
| You can have me pause at any point. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| If you have any thoughts, feel free to jump in. | ||
| This is insane because, I mean, the argument could be made that the headline InfoWars is behind the stuff he's saying could just mean that... | ||
| They support the same thing that Trump does. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Not necessarily that Trump got it from them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The word could be interpreted either way. | ||
| So that's one thing. | ||
| The other is that that list of unreported terrorist attacks, that was some shameful shit. | ||
| Did you get a chance to go over that list? | ||
| No. | ||
| They misspelled San Bernardino. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| They misspelled the word attacker like 27 times. | ||
| No. | ||
| Throughout it when they were listing the attackers. | ||
| And then a bunch of the... | ||
| Almost all of it was covered by the mainstream media. | ||
| And the ones that were dubious, maybe undercovered, were non-fatality knife attacks in foreign countries. | ||
| Yeah, those aren't going to grab headlines. | ||
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No! | |
| Who's going to fucking read that? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| Yeah, that's... | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| Yeah, it's like you said. | ||
| It's... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's just... | ||
| I mean, he's just like the normal media in terms of the 24-hour news cycle, right? | ||
| You mean Alex? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Even if there is shady shit going on in the government, there's not enough for you to have hours of programming a day on it. | ||
| No, that's true. | ||
| So you're going to have to be grasping for straws. | ||
| He's got to fill four hours a day. | ||
| But he hits everything with the same intensity. | ||
| That's why it's so... | ||
| Fucking obvious when it's like, alright, my grandma died. | ||
| How is this about Oklahoma City? | ||
| Because I have time to fill. | ||
| Everything that happens has to be about something in the narrative. | ||
| I honestly, this comes up. | ||
| He has so much time to fill. | ||
| This comes up over and over again. | ||
| But I honestly think that you and everybody else who has suggested that is being way too generous. | ||
| I don't think he blocks out time at all. | ||
| I think the entire show is essentially a riff. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's for sure. | ||
| He's got time to kill, but he doesn't have, like, alright, I've got to fill 15 minutes here. | ||
| He's like, fuck, I've got to fill four hours every day. | ||
| Every single day, he's like, fuck. | ||
| But, I mean, I guess this is like the future of information and whether we turn the corner or not, right? | ||
| Because it's like, I mean, that's his issue, right? | ||
| Is it's like, if someone was genuinely like, hey, I want to give a voice... | ||
| To independent media, right? | ||
| It's like, alright, great, but those things hardly ever exist, because for them to exist, they'd have to be like, well yeah, sometimes, if not most of the time, the media is right, what they cover is accurate, what they're covering is important, blah blah blah. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| You could argue that maybe they don't cover A, B, and C because of corporate interests, or because of some other interest that's somewhere between dubious or just money related. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But... | ||
| It's like, that's what he positions himself as. | ||
| It's like, I'm just being honest. | ||
| But it's like, but you're not, your message is conspiracy. | ||
| So you have to fit everything into that box. | ||
| And it's globalists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So everything has to be about globalists. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And also, he's not telling the truth. | ||
| We've documented at least, like, totally tons of lies throughout just the... | ||
| Ten episodes of this show we've done so far. | ||
| Well, I think, like, the thing I always bring up, like, the one story that really, like, just encapsulates it for me was something from back in my Jones watching days. | ||
| Even though I was not a regular watcher or a regular, like, believer, like, I always was like, okay, but still fun. | ||
| So it's not like I was ever, like, it's not like I escaped the church or anything. | ||
| Like, I always was skeptical. | ||
| You didn't go native. | ||
| But it was always interesting and mostly, like, just like now, it's always entertaining. | ||
| But it was this story about, like, It's the gay shrimp story. | ||
| Do you remember the gay shrimp story? | ||
| This, I do not remember. | ||
| They were dumping chemicals into this river, and it was turning the shrimp gay. | ||
| It was turning the actual shrimp gay. | ||
| It was turning the shrimp in this river. | ||
| How would they know? | ||
| Well, here's the thing. | ||
| It's based off real science that pesticides run off into these streams. | ||
| They have, what do you want to call it? | ||
| Estrogenic qualities, and so much so that these small species, something like a shrimp, it can actually flip their species female. | ||
| So now all the shrimp are female, so they can't reproduce, so they die off. | ||
| So now there's a genuine story that I remember hearing about in biology classes in college about pesticides getting unreported, their damages, and it's causing these problems, and it could be causing to... | ||
| Tick and breast cancer in the human population. | ||
| So he brings in a real kind of issue that is alarming and undercovered, but he turns it into, it's turning the shrimp gay. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| And they're doing this because they want to... | ||
| They're experimenting to turn us gay. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So then we don't reproduce. | ||
| And it's a form of eugenics that the globalists are going to use to keep population down and kind of trim population to, like, whatever their number... | ||
| There's always that number, right? | ||
| Like, they want to get population down to 100,000 people. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| We're all slaves. | ||
| They rule over us. | ||
| Georgia Guidestones. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's, like, when it's just, like... | ||
| Why are you blowing this? | ||
| First of all... | ||
| You're so... | ||
| That's what makes him worse to me, almost. | ||
| I want to get back to this thought. | ||
| I don't want to interrupt you, but I have to. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| Go ahead, please. | ||
| Because he has a clip about this on today's show. | ||
| About the gay shrimp? | ||
| Kind of. | ||
| How do you kill fire ants? | ||
| How do you kill a bee colony? | ||
| You put a pheromone in reproduction. | ||
| And so, again, whether you're gay, straight, you know, into whatever, I don't care. | ||
| Everybody knows that. | ||
| I'm not hating you for who you are. | ||
| But the media calls me a homophobe and a transphobe and all this stuff because I say, what is this being force-fed to five-year-old kids about when they're not even thinking about sex? | ||
| The point is that there's an anti-human agenda. | ||
| So yeah, even just in passing on this show, he brings up this idea that there's something being introduced to try and turn us gay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's weird, too. | ||
| And that's the other thing that's like... | ||
| Not troubling, but just, like, a shame. | ||
| Because, like, he doesn't seem hateful, per se. | ||
| He hates globalists. | ||
| Yeah, that's true. | ||
| He's hateful towards them. | ||
| But I guess, like, I've read articles, too, about, like, the media elites pushing trans issues because they want to, like, destroy gender lines again to, like, confuse the working class population. | ||
| When you say articles. | ||
| Oh, well, I mean, online periodicals. | ||
| These are blogs. | ||
| Not peer-reviewed. | ||
| These are Reddit posts, basically. | ||
| The Vigilant Citizen. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| But my point is, they always take a whole paragraph to be like, if you are trans, that's fine. | ||
| There's nothing wrong with you. | ||
| I recognize that as a real identity. | ||
| I'm just saying that... | ||
| They're using that. | ||
| They're exploiting that real identity that deserves to be protected. | ||
| So it's nice to see that their craziness is at least coming from a place where they seem kind, right? | ||
| No, no, because see, I think that that's even being way too generous. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| I didn't read these articles on The Vigilant Citizen that you have, but I have listened to Alex. | ||
| And I just, like I said, I'm not taking it in as fact. | ||
| I read it as entertainment, but it's... | ||
| Anyway, sorry. | ||
| Go ahead, though. | ||
| I just wanted to stress that. | ||
| That's taken as implied, at least for me. | ||
| But, like, with this clip, Alex is... | ||
| And what his whole thing is, is... | ||
| There's this stuff that's being introduced. | ||
| It's turning people gay. | ||
| It's an anti-human, end-of-the-species agenda, basically. | ||
| But hey, I don't care if you're gay. | ||
| That's totally cool. | ||
| I mean, you are a victim. | ||
| I mean, your identity is because you had something done to you, and I pity you because of your flaw, but I'm not homophobic. | ||
| It's like, oh, okay. | ||
| Dude, it's such a thin line. | ||
| It's not even that it's a thin line. | ||
| It's like, I agree it's not good. | ||
| It's just like, in the world we live in, it's just like, you know it could be worse. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| You know that there's politicians, like people that make the laws, that are much more openly hateful than him. | ||
| So that's why it's like, when they say awful shit like that, it's nice to know that they're better than even some of the people we've elected, in terms of at least taking the time to be like, look, you're just a victim, I don't hate you. | ||
| Which is like, yes, it's like... | ||
| Hateful in a way, but it's a kinder hate. | ||
| It's softer. | ||
| It's a softer hate. | ||
| He also says that he's not transphobic in that clip, and he spent a great deal of time accusing Michelle Obama of being a transgender person, but he doesn't use those terms. | ||
| I didn't know he was on that fucking conspiracy. | ||
| I did not know that. | ||
| That's bananas. | ||
| Sometimes he pretends he's just joking about it. | ||
| Other times, he's very serious. | ||
| But like, for what reason? | ||
| Like, what? | ||
| Because it's part of the homosexual agenda. | ||
| But what? | ||
| It would be different if she came out as trans than it would be. | ||
| It's a psyop. | ||
| They've degraded the presidency and the office of the first lady by secretly having a trans woman be in there. | ||
| That's a man. | ||
| That's a first man. | ||
| So basically his idea is like, she doesn't have to say it. | ||
| We just, we understand it. | ||
| And so the agenda gets out without it being like explicit. | ||
| Eventually we'll know and then the joke's on us. | ||
| We've been tricked this whole time. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It is transphobic. | ||
| Let's be honest. | ||
| Yeah, I mean it's transphobic and it's homophobic. | ||
| It's all that. | ||
| It's just like... | ||
| It's just these people are so... | ||
| In a world of such... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Anger is even maybe simplifying, but this heightened emotional state, I think it would be easy for them to be outwardly hateful. | ||
| So it's nice when they always at least take a half step back, even though... | ||
| I think it's cowardly. | ||
| Maybe that's a fair way to do it. | ||
| Maybe I'm trying to be too optimistic. | ||
| I have a touch... | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| I was going to say I have more respect for Michael Savage, but I don't. | ||
| Who's that? | ||
| I don't know who that is. | ||
| He's an even more hateful radio personality. | ||
| He has a show called The Savage Nation. | ||
| He's awful, but he is just outwardly hateful. | ||
| So does he just hate gays and trans, or does he think that they're part of an agenda? | ||
| I think what he would say is they're mentally ill or degenerate. | ||
| Gotcha, one of those guys. | ||
| Is he like an older guy with white hair? | ||
| Kind of, yeah. | ||
| Like Mike Pence-ish looking? | ||
| No, no, no, no, no. | ||
| He looks haggard. | ||
| Yeah, maybe I'm not. | ||
| He looks like he spent at least a decade in a bottle. | ||
| Let's get back into Alex. | ||
| This clip is going to start with him touching base on his favorite supervillain, George Soros. | ||
| And then he has some more stuff to say about how Trump is really cool. | ||
| I mean, Homeland Security was told eight years ago, do not say Islamic terror. | ||
| And when you stop somebody, you can't ask even where they're coming from or if they're a Wahhabist or look on their cell phones. | ||
| I want to stop really quick. | ||
| I don't think that it's true that you can't ask people where they're coming from. | ||
| I think that that's an exaggeration. | ||
| But also, I don't think it's as nefarious as Alex thinks when he says that people were told not to say that things are Islamic terror. | ||
| I think that's probably due diligence. | ||
| I think that you've got to know the facts before you make pronouncements, first of all. | ||
| And then second of all, I don't think we gain anything by attaching Islam... | ||
| To terrorism. | ||
| But didn't they even say that explicitly? | ||
| I thought they said that explicitly, like, that they weren't saying Islamic anymore because they didn't want to, like, destroy possible allies they could have in the Middle East by, like, condemning a religion. | ||
| Yeah, because once... | ||
| They were trying to, like... | ||
| That was, like, their olive branch to that. | ||
| It's like, alright, if you help us, we won't say that word anymore. | ||
| Well, when you start using Islamic terror as a compound word, the adjective Islamic gets connected to the terror that is the noun. | ||
| And at a certain point, it becomes like a soft kill. | ||
| It becomes a term that gets stuck in your head. | ||
| And, yeah, it's counterproductive. | ||
| If you use that term aggressively to label everything... | ||
| Then you're going to end up with at least the appearances of a holy war. | ||
| You're going to end up... | ||
| To people who want to see it, they're going to see like, oh, they hate Islam. | ||
| And that's really bad. | ||
| That's very bad. | ||
| The only people whose interests that serve are people who actually want a holy war. | ||
| And that ain't us. | ||
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No. | |
| I don't think Alex would either. | ||
| No, I don't think so. | ||
| Does he like Islam or no? | ||
| Does he ever touch on that at all? | ||
| Funny you should ask. | ||
| I have a clip about what he thinks about Islam. | ||
| This is turning two comics unleashed. | ||
| I mean, Homeland Security was told eight years ago, do not say Islamic terror. | ||
| Wait, wait. | ||
| Okay, sorry. | ||
| I thought I had the wrong clip. | ||
| I mean, Homeland Security was told eight years ago, do not say Islamic terror. | ||
| And when you stop somebody, you can't ask what... | ||
| Even where they're coming from, or if they're a Wahhabist, or look on their cell phones. | ||
| So you're coming from Yemen, you're coming from Saudi Arabia, you're coming from Sudan, you're coming from places that are war zones, like Somalia, a totally failed state, and you can't even ask when it comes up in a data sheet that you're Al-Qaeda, are you with Al-Qaeda? | ||
| They can ask me if I'm part of a criminal group. | ||
| They can ask me if I've got drugs. | ||
| They can ask me if I've got fruits and vegetables. | ||
| But you can't ask the Islamists this. | ||
| They're actually in the news saying, oh, Trump may lose his appeal now because he mentioned Islam. | ||
| Congress will make no law respecting an establishment of religion or whatever the phrase says thereof. | ||
| But you can bar someone that's part of a religious group that its tenet is to bomb and kill innocents. | ||
| That's a cult. | ||
| Comprende? | ||
| Not a violation of the First Amendment. | ||
| When you've sworn allegiance to a murderous military death cult, you don't have a right to come here. | ||
| So he doesn't necessarily... | ||
| He's not necessarily saying those things about Islam as a whole. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I don't think he's doing a nearly good enough job of being specific about what he's talking about. | ||
| Also true. | ||
| So if you're not paying attention and you're listening to that, and maybe you're dumb, that's kind of one of the messages you're going to take away from it, that Islam is a military death cult. | ||
| I guess I just... | ||
| I never really heard him talk about Jesus as much as I have in this episode when he's talking about his grandma. | ||
| I knew he was Christian, but I thought he was a little more secular. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| He prays on air. | ||
| I didn't know that. | ||
| Like I said, I'm a little out of touch with current AG. | ||
| He's gone so far off this weird deep end. | ||
| He prays on air. | ||
| He talks about Jesus all the time. | ||
| But he also has this weird version of Christianity that he's into. | ||
| In the first clip, he was talking about how that guy who exposed Oklahoma City, he got up to the pearly gates and someone said, hey, let's get him back. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He has this idea. | ||
| There's like... | ||
| Weird, mystical elements to his version of Christianity. | ||
| But again, it's like I said, it's like we were talking about with the gay and trans thing, where it's like, in that same clip, the old lady clip and the dying on the operating table clip. | ||
| I don't know why I said old lady, I mean his grandma. | ||
| She was old. | ||
| She was old, so. | ||
| But basically, the way he talked about... | ||
| Well, other people in other cultures have the same vision, so it must mean something. | ||
| So it made it seem like he's somewhat inclusive of other faiths or believes in a universal truth that can be kind of expressed or interpreted culturally in a different way. | ||
| You're giving him a lot of credit. | ||
| Again, I probably am. | ||
| A lot of credit. | ||
| I'm just, I guess, I'm not even giving him credit. | ||
| I'm just wondering, is that what it is? | ||
| Or is he? | ||
| Because, like, most people that are that Christian, or any religion, to be fair, Don't really like other religions. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because there's a predisposition like, I'm right, so they're wrong. | ||
| It's team sports. | ||
| So that's why I was wondering if he is one of those Christians or if he's more just like... | ||
| I think he feels the same way about other religions that he does about the gays in the terms of like... | ||
| Hey, you're wrong. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| You're fine. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| Everybody be cool. | ||
| It's cool. | ||
| Yeah, that sort of thing. | ||
| But he has underlying horribly bigoted opinions. | ||
| The demonic cult. | ||
| Leaders have gotten into Islam. | ||
| It's not your fault that you believe in this devilish, evil, violent religion. | ||
| It's not your fault. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And he has, on a number of occasions, said much more inflammatory things about Islam that weren't in this episode, so we won't listen to it. | ||
| But he has said some... | ||
| I just wondered. | ||
| Some kind of disparaging things about how it's, you know, religion that is... | ||
| One of the tenets is killing other people. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| And I'm like, alright. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| Let's not wrestle with the Old Testament at all. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And the other thing, it bears repeating, and I don't think I have a clip of this, but to this day, he still is not recognizing that the shooter in Quebec, the guy who shot up the mosque, he's not recognizing that it wasn't a Muslim who shot up that mosque. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| He refuses to acknowledge that... | ||
| It was like a blonde-haired white guy, wasn't it? | ||
| I don't know if they ever arrested him. | ||
| I lost track of that story, but that was the only suspect they had, was a guy who... | ||
| Wait, so did they arrest that suspect, or did they not? | ||
| No, let me look into this. | ||
| I thought they arrested that guy. | ||
| I did. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| It's so funny what you believe when your brain kind of just goes on autopilot, because I was like... | ||
| Yeah, I thought they arrested that guy, and that was definitely the guy, but then as we talk about it, I'm like, you know what, I also did tune out of that story and didn't really see how it concluded. | ||
| A suspect charged with murder in Quebec's Quebec mosque terror attack. | ||
| Yeah, so he was arrested. | ||
| I think that's probably why we tuned out, is because we heard he was arrested. | ||
| It seemed like it was over, right? | ||
| And it's Canada, so fuck it. | ||
| The lone suspect accused of opening fire in a Quebec city mosque was formally charged with six counts of first-degree murder on Monday evening, one day after the massacre that killed six men. | ||
| So it was even one day later. | ||
| Yeah, that was pretty quick. | ||
| The suspect was identified as 27-year-old Alexandre Bissonette, a student at nearby Laval University. | ||
| Bissonette was also charged with five counts of attempted murder. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| So that guy probably did it. | ||
| Yeah, he looks good for it. | ||
| They hardly pick up the wrong guy for those things. | ||
| It seems like... | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Alex would tell you that they got the wrong guy all the time. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Patsies. | ||
| Well, why does he think that a Muslim did it? | ||
| Or does he think it's a full-on false flag? | ||
| Well, that day on the show, he and his guest were talking about how it was a failed false flag. | ||
| It was a false flag that went wrong. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Because whenever you have shooters like this, usually they kill themselves. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the fact that he didn't kill himself, man, it went wrong. | ||
| So he chickened out. | ||
| Something like that. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You know how I was telling you earlier that I'm getting into their headspace? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not that deep yet. | ||
| Good. | ||
| That's good, though, because you were worried about it, so it's good to know. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's good my interrogation has made you feel better about yourself. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| All right. | ||
| We've got to get back. | ||
| Yes, let's go. | ||
| This is some more shit about the media, and it has to do with old press secretary Spicer. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And Alex telling a story that is not true. | ||
| So Infowars is behind President Trump's idea that the media is covering up terrorist attacks. | ||
| That was on CNN last night. | ||
| This morning, it's everywhere. | ||
| And sure, it gives us a little bit of traffic, but they have dwindling audiences of idiots. | ||
| This is mainly a PSYOP so that Spicer and people read this and go, look, Mr. President, more about how Alex Jones is your boss. | ||
| Don't listen to him. | ||
| Go with the mainline Republicans. | ||
| Listen to Priebus. | ||
| That goes on, by the way, behind the scenes. | ||
| Word for word. | ||
| That does not go on behind the scenes. | ||
| Or at least I pray to God that doesn't go on behind the scenes. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I think that might go on behind the scenes, to be perfectly honest with you. | ||
| I'm going to have to back Alex on this one. | ||
| With this current administration, I have no doubt that that's a very high possibility that that happens. | ||
| Sean Spicer straight up coming out and being like, oh, Mr. Trump, don't believe Alex. | ||
| And him going like, I don't know, seems right. | ||
| Checks out. | ||
| Checks out. | ||
| It's a sigh out. | ||
| He's got this whole thing going on where he believes that there's a split in the Trump camp between the Trump loyalists, which are Bannon, General Flynn, and Trump, basically. | ||
| And then you got Sean Spicer, you got Kellyanne Conway, and you got Reince Priebus, who are like, they're just fucking coming along for the ride, but they're establishment Republicans. | ||
| Which is fucked up, because you already have enemy friends. | ||
| It's amazing this narrative has come about this quickly. | ||
| It's so fast. | ||
| Dude, like, something like a Trump presidency is just so interesting. | ||
| Like, there's no better time to listen to Alex Jones than now. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Because the world is turning almost Alex Jones-ian. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| In reality. | ||
| And then he ups it with his, then he always takes it to the next level. | ||
| But usually we're out the ground floor when he takes it to the next level. | ||
| Now we're a few levels up and he's next level in it. | ||
| It's like, it's a really great slash worst time to be alive. | ||
| There's gotta be moments, like quiet moments for him where he's like, I don't know how I'm gonna do this. | ||
| I don't know how I'm gonna up the ante. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| He's gonna just start reporting the news. | ||
| He can't. | ||
| He doesn't know how. | ||
| I've listened to Infowars legitimately every day for the last two months. | ||
| Oh, God bless you. | ||
| At least. | ||
| It hurts. | ||
| But, like, I have never once heard them do a piece of legitimate journalism. | ||
| They have never made a call to anybody. | ||
| They've never checked a fact. | ||
| Documents. | ||
| Yeah, they've got white papers. | ||
| Okay, all right. | ||
| They have all these documents that they cite, and then you go read them, and they don't say what they said they said. | ||
| So it's like, okay, you're not reading the things that you're saying you're reading. | ||
| All you have is fake sources. | ||
| It's all you got. | ||
| That's all they have. | ||
| It's insane to me. | ||
| So the premise that you had of him having to... | ||
| I know it was a joke. | ||
| But the idea that the only way he can be crazier is just report the news straight. | ||
| He doesn't have the chops. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, that's fair. | ||
| He's an interesting dude, man. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I just... | ||
| So did you guys already said, did you talk about on the podcast about the Joe Rogan interview you said? | ||
| We did. | ||
| We talked about it for three and a half hours. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you'd have to. | ||
| It was like a four-hour fucking interview. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I fact-checked a number of the things that he talked about that were just complete bullshit. | ||
| Well, but that's what's interesting, right? | ||
| Because it's like the first hour he's talking about how, like, Trump's not a globalist. | ||
| That's why I support him, but I'm not saying he's perfect. | ||
| No, the first whole hour was about Pizzagate. | ||
| That, too. | ||
| But I guess, like, he said some... | ||
| I don't want to say reasonable things. | ||
| He said some things in a reasonable tone that weren't the most awful things I've ever heard. | ||
| That was in the first hour. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But then he started drinking. | ||
| I can't blame it on the drinking, because I've heard him doing it on his show. | ||
| Unless he's a chronic alcoholic, that's a possible theory. | ||
| I'm starting that theory out. | ||
| It's very possible. | ||
| I would buy into that theory, because it's like, by the end of the podcast, he's talking about, like... | ||
| Like vampires sucking the lifeblood out of these children. | ||
| 12-dimensional beings. | ||
| Yeah, interdimensional beings. | ||
| And I'm just like... | ||
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What? | |
| He's wasted. | ||
| How do you have even the... | ||
| Even the capacity to sound reasonable, even for a second, if you also have those views. | ||
| No, absolutely. | ||
| The thing is, he masks those beliefs really well, generally, but clearly that's underlying a lot of his beliefs. | ||
| All that stuff about psychic vampires and... | ||
| How can you believe that and also believe in Jesus, though? | ||
| Because none of that's in the Bible. | ||
| Well, that's what I was talking about earlier. | ||
| His version of Christianity is really weird. | ||
| We're getting to, like... | ||
| Over time, we'll figure it out. | ||
| We'll get a better assessment of what his Christianity really is. | ||
| Because it's not really Gnosticism either. | ||
| It's something, though. | ||
| And we can't quite get our finger on it, but we're getting little pieces every week or so. | ||
| Trying to piece it together. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I guess, like, that's the last thing I'll say is, like, I guess that's the thing. | ||
| That might not be the last thing. | ||
| No, I just mean we can move on and stuff. | ||
| I don't want to keep, like, hijacking things. | ||
| But, like, just the idea of, like, that's to me what I've always wrestled with with Alex Jones. | ||
| He's never been someone I ever thought could ever be something important to me in terms of an information source. | ||
| But I am always, like, I can't pretend that I'm not attracted to things outside the mainstream. | ||
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Sure. | |
| As a, you know, to kind of... | ||
| Bolster what I get from the mainstream. | ||
| And I like a good fucking psycho. | ||
| But I like my psycho on like a two or below. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so if one is like kind of psycho and ten's like interdimensional beings, like it's just weird that... | ||
| He can act 1 to 10 and all the numbers in between. | ||
| So it's just frustrating when I see him do some 1s and 2s and I'm like, this is a psycho I can get behind. | ||
| And then literally an hour later he's on full 10. It's like, just stay in the 1s and 2s, baby! | ||
| It's because he's a 10 who's just trying his best to be a 1 but he doesn't have it in him. | ||
| Well, he's a really good showman. | ||
| He's a con artist. | ||
| So he pretends to be a 2. That you're able to get people to sort of think you're not as crazy as you are. | ||
| Then you go on Rogan, you get high and drunk, and the 10 comes out. | ||
| That's basically how I would look at it. | ||
| That's a very cynical view, but I think it's probably 100% correct. | ||
| And even like 7 on that scale bleeds through on his own show when he starts screaming a whole bunch. | ||
| I'm going to play this next clip. | ||
| And it's probably about four minutes long or so. | ||
| It's what I would describe as him attempting to do some media criticism about CNN. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| And in the middle of it, I think he accidentally leaks, not leaks, but he lets slip something that I don't believe is true, but if it is, indicates that Trump might have committed treason. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So that's fucked up. | ||
| And then also, he gets mad at Anderson Cooper a whole bunch. | ||
| Tell me if you want me to pause at any point to make a comment. | ||
| And then they go, oh my gosh, InfoWars is insane. | ||
| It says we're covering up, and Trump's insane for saying it. | ||
| No, Trump just trolled you. | ||
| You are the ones that are now talking about, we don't cover up this, you cover up... | ||
| Black-on-white crime statistics. | ||
| Reporters all over the country have been told, you cover up Islamic rapes and murders in Europe. | ||
| More police unions are coming out and saying, in Sweden and Germany, they've been ordered to cover it up. | ||
| And you've got the nerve to shake your finger at us and say we're covering, oh, kind of like we said the polls were fake and Trump was going to win? | ||
| Kind of like that? | ||
| Kind of like I said that George Soros was directing the Democrats? | ||
| To send out people to rough folks up at Trump events and then blame it on Trump? | ||
| And exactly what I said came out? | ||
| Because I have major sources in the Secret Service and in the Chicago PD? | ||
| I mean, I don't want to tell you too much here. | ||
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| Thanks. | ||
| Let's just say we've got all the intel. | ||
| And we know exactly who's doing what. | ||
| My problem is, I'm so busy I can't even go through all this stuff. | ||
| Let's go to this first video. | ||
| Trump trolls CNN into covering Islamic terror that they say doesn't exist. | ||
| And when he says they're covering it up, they say, oh, ha, ha, ha. | ||
| Of course we cover Islamic terror. | ||
| Ooh! | ||
| I'm not sure what the victory is here that he's celebrating. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I legitimately have no idea. | ||
| So is he saying... | ||
| So he's saying that... | ||
| Trump said, hey CNN, there's terror events happening that you're not covering because you're covering it up. | ||
| And then they say, no, we did cover it. | ||
| And then because they're saying that they covered it, they're now covering it. | ||
| But they're obviously just bringing up stuff from the past that they covered. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Alex is not good at, like, considering options outside of what he already believes. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's not, like, an alternative possibility. | ||
| It's all just like, this is the truth. | ||
| Globalists, bad, Trump, good. | ||
| Anyway, he's going to play this clip and interrupt it a whole bunch. | ||
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Okay. | |
| He's going to yell. | ||
| He's going to threaten. | ||
| It's classic Alex Jones, and it's weird. | ||
| And like I said, he has an alternative narrative of how Trump ended up running for president that I'm dubious of it. | ||
| I don't think it's real. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We'll see what you think. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Ha ha! | ||
| Got you, dummy! | ||
| Here it is. | ||
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Police, this list of terror attacks, the president said the media is downplaying or not reporting on, right? | |
| That's right, Anderson. | ||
| I have it right here. | ||
| 78 attacks since September of 2014. | ||
| And the White House is careful to say that most of these attacks were not reported on adequately enough. | ||
| But, Anderson, just going through the list, there's no scoring system or grade system here to say, okay, these attacks... | ||
| It's come out that the FBI and others are... | ||
| I mean, we've had authors on that worked inside Homeland Security as senior analysts who were at the meetings where they were told seven, eight years ago, you will no longer say the word Islamic terror. | ||
| It does not exist. | ||
| And Anderson Cooper is CIA. | ||
| The whole foundation left this arm of it. | ||
| He went to Cairo and celebrated the Arab Spring that overthrew the country and murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent people. | ||
| He might have been celebrating or he might have been. | ||
| A journalist. | ||
| Yeah, might have been reporting. | ||
| Might have been. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| Might have been. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| We're going to go over all those names and all those documents in a moment, but Cooper and this other dingbat try to sit there and look shocked by this. | ||
| Everybody knows you're con men, okay? | ||
| Everybody knows you're frauds. | ||
| You have a tiny audience, so get a bigger teleprompter. | ||
| Get a bigger studio, bro, because you aren't getting your job done. | ||
| Yeah, the other dingbat is Jim Acosta. | ||
| Here it is. | ||
| We're covered adequately. | ||
| These attacks were not. | ||
| And most puzzling of all, Anderson, inside this list, you see mentions of the Paris attacks where 129 people died, the San Bernardino terrorist attack, the Nice truck attack, and so on. | ||
| And as you know, Anderson, these are all terrorist attacks that we covered days on end, not only here at CNN, but other international news outlets around the world. | ||
| This is perfect. | ||
| The default is, say, Trump's a liar. | ||
| So they come out and say, Trump's a liar. | ||
| We cover all the 70-plus Islamic attacks. | ||
| Of course we covered all the Islamic attacks. | ||
| And under it, if you're a radio listener, it says, Breaking, White House releases a list of undercovered attacks. | ||
| Again, White House releases a list of undercovered attacks. | ||
| And then they put in parentheses, we covered many. | ||
| So... | ||
| They're admitting they didn't even cover them all, and what we're saying is they under-report them. | ||
| I mean, when a black guy kills a white guy, newspapers all over the country know you don't put a picture of who did it, and you don't say who they are. | ||
| And whenever they're looking for someone, most of the time they won't even say a Hispanic male or a black male. | ||
| That's just not true. | ||
| Yeah, that's not true at all. | ||
| That's not true to all points bulletins. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| That's a very white genocide-y narrative. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a talking point of white victimization that just... | ||
| The facts don't bear out. | ||
| Dude, all there is is pictures of black guys on the news saying this guy did bad things. | ||
| I would say it's either not true or the opposite of what is happening. | ||
| Yeah, but if your audience base, as we've broken down... | ||
| No black people listen to Alex Jones. | ||
| It's like 3% of his audience is black or something like that. | ||
| It's overwhelmingly over 50 years old male and white. | ||
| So you have these people who are easy to scare and... | ||
| Maybe aren't really good at researching things on the internet. | ||
| So you just tell them, yeah, of course. | ||
| Well, they think they are researching it by the internet by watching his internet show. | ||
| And they trust him that he has done the research on these things, and he has not. | ||
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Now, I mean, sure. | |
| You want to say that some things aren't covered? | ||
| You can't cover everything. | ||
| Like I said, if you go down this list, I have the list of all the terror attacks here that the government... | ||
| Put out. | ||
| And there are the big ones that got obscene amounts of coverage. | ||
| Some might say too much coverage. | ||
| And then there are just ones where a foreign citizen was cut by a potential Islamic person in another country. | ||
| List not coming up right now. | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| It's an embarrassing list. | ||
| But it's supposed to be. | ||
| Alex is totally right about one thing. | ||
| It's trolling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It is Trump trolling the media. | ||
| But did they kind of fall for it, even by... | ||
| I mean, that's what's kind of... | ||
| To me, that's what's kind of terrifying about a Trump presidency, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Is that you can't ignore it, even though that's really the best move, because it's the president saying it. | ||
| You can't ignore it, because if you ignore it, we're going to have... | ||
| Everything is going to be deregulated, everything is going to be privatized, and we're going to live in a bizarre dystopia. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If you just ignore it, but then if you fight back against it, you get caught up in these weird labyrinthian lies. | ||
| You're also covering it enough that, I mean, Alex Jones is right that they're putting it on their own scroll, White House releases list of uncovered terrorist attacks. | ||
| So, how do most people watch CNN? | ||
| Like, at the airport? | ||
| At the doctor's office? | ||
| So, you're just looking, you're like, ah, guess the media is covering up terrorist attacks. | ||
| Alright, gate B now. | ||
| That's why they had to put in parentheses, we covered many. | ||
| I know, but it's still not good. | ||
| Because, to be perfectly honest, they can't say we covered all of them, because, again, they don't need to cover a knifing in a foreign country. | ||
| Right. | ||
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It is just... | |
| No one died. | ||
| It's not... | ||
| If we are expected... | ||
| To have wall-to-wall coverage of every... | ||
| Again, it's not good that someone got stabbed or it's not good that someone was sexually assaulted. | ||
| But it's not necessarily global news. | ||
| It's not something... | ||
| It was probably covered in that local paper or to wherever that... | ||
| I would definitely assume so. | ||
| I don't know how foreign media works, but I would assume so. | ||
| Anyway, this gets weirder. | ||
| Just say it if it's a white male. | ||
| Everybody knows about this. | ||
| This has been admitted. | ||
| So, again, Trump is a total genius how he is annihilating our enemy that is the foreign-owned globalist corporate press. | ||
| Let's go back to these two jokers. | ||
| This appears to be a talking point that is in search of a set of facts that just doesn't exist. | ||
| The other thing we did not get an answer for is why the president made this claim today, that the news media are not reporting on these attacks. | ||
| He said, I think you know why to those military commanders today, but no explanation was given as to why the news media... | ||
| Oh, let's pause again. | ||
| Let's back that up in 10 seconds. | ||
| No one knows why he's saying the military, I think you know why. | ||
| Because CENTCOM told him, and General Flynn told him, and General Mattis told him, and all the generals told him, sir, there's been a deal made with Saudi Arabia and Al-Qaeda to take over more than 50 countries. | ||
| They've already invaded 16 of them. | ||
| That was back at the time, four years ago. | ||
| And we've got to stop them. | ||
| They're now in 30-plus countries on that list, sir. | ||
| We've been double-crossed, sir. | ||
| They overthrew our ally, Egypt. | ||
| They overthrew Qaddafi, who'd made a deal with us. | ||
| They're trying to overthrow Syria. | ||
| They're trying to overrun Iraq, sir. | ||
| It's a major threat. | ||
| We've got to stop it. | ||
| They've been telling Trump that. | ||
| Trump's had General Flynn and people telling him behind the scenes for three years. | ||
| A year before he ever announced running for president. | ||
| Four and a half years ago, General Dempsey, the head of the Joint Chiefs, went to the White House and told Obama, we're not going to be the Air Force for Al-Qaeda. | ||
| Remember all that in the news at the time? | ||
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So... | |
| Oh, we don't know what Trump's talking about when he says to the military, I think you know why. | ||
| You know what, President Trump? | ||
| Keep taking the gloves off. | ||
| Say, you know why? | ||
| Hillary and Obama are the founders of ISIS and the Saudi Arabian Caliphate expansion. | ||
| And you are the ones that came to me and asked me to run for office to stop this. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Whoa! | ||
| So the generals came to Trump to tell him to run for office to stop the... | ||
| To stop ISIS, which was the creation of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. | ||
| Only one man can become... | ||
| I don't know if that's treason, if it's true, but it's... | ||
| Why would you pick him? | ||
| That part is bizarre. | ||
| If you're a general. | ||
| That part we can't answer. | ||
| It might have something to do with bizarre Russian connections that were in the dirty dossier. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Possibly. | |
| So does he think the dirty dossier is true? | ||
| No. | ||
| He thinks it's a terrible hatchet job. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| One of the most evil things that's ever happened. | ||
| That makes sense, but I just was wondering. | ||
| No, he's totally opposed to everything that was in it. | ||
| He thinks it's propaganda put out by the communist Chinese. | ||
| And Hillary Clinton and George Soros and Saudi Arabia. | ||
| But back to this clip. | ||
| The reason that I said it's fairly treasonous, I believe, is that you have these generals, allegedly. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And again, I don't believe Alex's story. | ||
| But it seems a little far-fetched. | ||
| If it were true, there would be these dudes who have security clearances, have top-secret information, and are coming to private citizen and... | ||
| All-around insane person, Donald Trump, telling him these things. | ||
| Because he's outside the system. | ||
| But they're telling him these things that they should not be telling him. | ||
| Okay, that is weird. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| I didn't think about that part. | ||
| That's clearly classified. | ||
| They planned some sort of a revolution. | ||
| A coup. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And use, and this is the other thing, other things that Alex talks about was like the insider people in the information agencies are the ones who leaked stuff to WikiLeaks in order to help Trump. | ||
| And if that's the case, added into what he was just talking about here, that is straight up treason. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That is like we had, again, I don't believe that's true. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if that were true, then we would have essentially an insurrection within our government happening. | ||
| That is way scarier than a Donald Trump presidency. | ||
| If that's possible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So then this clip ends with Anderson Cooper talking. | ||
| And just while he's talking, know that there's a video montage of him reporting from all of these. | ||
| Okay, okay. | ||
| So all of these terrorist attacks that happened, they just show footage of him at all of them. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Because they were important enough that they flew him out to report. | ||
| So now here we are, men. | ||
| The gloves are off. | ||
| No limits. | ||
| We're taking them out! | ||
| You really want the rest of the story, Cooper? | ||
| Hoping you and your idiot audience don't know what's happening? | ||
| Hoping there's still some dwindling group of morons that are low information and will still buy all of your posturing? | ||
| We don't know what he's talking about. | ||
| Cooper was a cheerleader in the Middle East for Al-Qaeda. | ||
| Cooper is a monster! | ||
| A total blood-sucking robber baron, great-great-grandson nobody. | ||
| I agree that that show The Mole wasn't very good. | ||
| But it's fair. | ||
| An enemy of the republic. | ||
| Every single one of these people who knows what they're doing consciously is undermining this country, trying to crash the stock market, trying to cause race wars, trying to get illegal aliens to vote. | ||
| That's in the news today. | ||
| Out of one side of their mouth, we're organizing illegals to vote. | ||
| Let illegals vote. | ||
| But there's no illegals voting. | ||
| Trump's insane. | ||
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Every single one of them is now an enemy of the republic. | |
| Back to them. | ||
| You know why to those military commanders today, but no explanation was given as to why the news media would not report terrorist attacks given all of our coverage. | ||
| It's just not true. | ||
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As Jim said, not only did we cover many of the attacks on that list the White House has released, we covered them heavily. | |
| I know because I was there on the ground reporting a number of them. | ||
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360 was in Ottawa, Canada, October 2014. | |
| That's on the list. | ||
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Where a gunman killed a reservist at the National War Memorial where he was on duty at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier. | |
| I was also in Orlando. | ||
| So he's saying that the news media didn't cover the Pulse nightclub shooting? | ||
| That's on the list of under-reported terrorist attacks. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| They're still talking about that. | ||
| I'm reading news about they're charging his wife with aiding and abetting. | ||
| That's like ongoing coverage. | ||
| They're covering the fuck out of that. | ||
| They're covering it now. | ||
| Well, that goes back to what I was saying. | ||
| Some of them, they cover too much. | ||
| I didn't think it was that crazy where they said... | ||
| Something like the Pulse thing was undercover. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| All of the... | ||
| Everything that could possibly be called... | ||
| Is 9-11 on the list? | ||
| I wish it was. | ||
| I think it only goes back to 2014. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| But, yeah, like I said, the list is embarrassing. | ||
| It's tons of stuff that we all got an ass full of. | ||
| We heard tons about it. | ||
| And Anderson Cooper is CIA. | ||
| He's evil. | ||
| Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. | ||
| I'm going to skip over this next clip. | ||
| It's where Alex explains that there's fight clubs being organized at Berkeley and other universities and faculty are involved. | ||
| The universities are starting fight clubs. | ||
| So they're university-sanctioned. | ||
| For leftists to learn how to fight so they can take out these conservatives when they come to town. | ||
| To be young again. | ||
| My college didn't offer a fight club. | ||
| No, and no one does. | ||
| I read the article that he posted, and it's just some people who are concerned that there's going to be attacks on minorities and on LGBT people. | ||
| Oh, so they teach them self-defense? | ||
| Basically. | ||
| And they're calling it fight club because it's fun. | ||
| It also sounds like a fight club. | ||
| And also, the university has been like, we're not involved in this. | ||
| We don't want anything to do with this. | ||
| It's just a clear-cut case of him lying. | ||
| I want to get to, though, he has an interview at the end of this episode. | ||
| There's an interview with a guy named Daryl Hamamoto, who's a professor, and he's really against liberal bullshit. | ||
| I want to play this because I want to give the listeners, I want to give you an idea of how interviews go on his show. | ||
| Because it's really bizarre. | ||
| If you've ever watched someone be interviewed on a news show, it's unlike that in any way. | ||
| I've seen a couple of them. | ||
| I'm excited to see this one. | ||
| I want to start with the introduction that he gives. | ||
| The reason I want to start with this is because... | ||
| We're both, you know, have spent a lot of time doing stand-up. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| We know what a good intro is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We know what a bad intro is. | ||
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Yep. | |
| This is a bad intro. | ||
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Okay. | |
| Because it's like if someone is introducing you as a performer and they spend like five minutes listing credits, then how are you going to get up there? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, it's bad. | ||
| So it's a bad intro, and then how Professor Hamamoto starts is bizarre. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Alex Jones, not a good host. | ||
| I'm just going to let this play show. | ||
| But to be fair, Alex is thrown by what ends up happening once Hamamoto starts talking. | ||
| I'm excited. | ||
| Excuse me real quick. | ||
| What's he bringing him on for? | ||
| Or will we find out? | ||
| Was he supposed to be an expert? | ||
| From what I understand, he's an expert in, like, Illuminati stuff and Asian-American studies, but then also he's... | ||
| So one fake thing, one real thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's on the show to discuss how there's, like, riots in Berkeley and, like, the stupid liberal campuses and stuff like that. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Anyway, listen to this fucking introduction. | ||
| And our guest, joining us the rest of the hour, Professor Daryl Hamamoto, has taught the University of California for most of his career. | ||
| He holds an undergraduate degree in political science, popular culture studies, comparative culture. | ||
| Homodo is a senior ranking professor at the Department of Asian Studies. | ||
| He's recognized authority on U.S. media, popular culture, and sexuality, having published extensively in the areas. | ||
| Homodo is a recipient of the Rockefeller Foundation Research Fellowship at UCLA and a Fulbright Scholarship Japan. | ||
| His current project is a volume that outlines the principles of the New World Order theory and is directed to the current generation college and university and undergraduates in search of alternatives to the dominant foundation-guided corporatist curriculum. | ||
| Tryanday.com is where you can find his book. | ||
| So I've been ranting here, but I've got to tell you, this has gotten so crazy that I don't even know what to call it now, but it's good to have you back with us. | ||
| Thank you very much, Alex, for inviting me. | ||
| Before we begin, though, I wanted to compliment one of your frequent contributors, Roger Stone, with this excellent book here, The Making of the President, 2016. | ||
| I've gotten my two copies ordered through InfoWars. | ||
| And this is the first draft of history. | ||
| This is the book that academic historians, for what that's worth, that academic historians will refer to when they write about this epical moment. | ||
| Not just in American political history, but in world history in general. | ||
| This is a truly... | ||
| He goes on another minute talking about the book that you can order on Infowars.com. | ||
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Oh, man. | |
| So he has this long fucking ramp-up of way too many credits, and then as soon as the guy starts talking, he's like, Alex, before we get going, I've got to tell you about a book you sell. | ||
| Yeah, and he's got two... | ||
| Why'd he buy two copies? | ||
| I don't know, probably one's a gift, or maybe one's a display copy. | ||
| Stocking stuffers. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So he gets on, and he does eventually get down to some business. | ||
| Brass tacks. | ||
| And this clip is super bizarre. | ||
| It has to do with, you know, the protesters and how, you know, just what they're really like. | ||
| We're having this complex talk. | ||
| Our audience is getting it. | ||
| Compare this to Nancy Pelosi. | ||
| Also, when he says we're having this complex talk, that's immediately after them just talking about this book for like three minutes. | ||
| Gotcha. | ||
| Pelosi not knowing who's president, or Maxine Waters thinking Russia attacked Korea. | ||
| He played this clip of Nancy Pelosi slipping up and saying President Bush. | ||
| You know, you have a slip of the tongue sometimes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then he also played this clip of Maxine Waters saying that Putin invaded Korea. | ||
| And look, she's an old lady. | ||
| I get that maybe she's not the best representative in the world or whatever, but she's not an idiot. | ||
| She just meant to say Crimea and said Korea. | ||
| They're pretty fucking close. | ||
| I'm not saying that that's great. | ||
| I would prefer she say Crimea. | ||
| But she said Korea. | ||
| She didn't mean Korea, you dumbass. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| But he has to make a fucking... | ||
| I mean, I don't say this to be in an elitist position. | ||
| I think of myself as an average person. | ||
| I am frightened by the Republican and Democratic establishments' arrogance and fossilized brain structure. | ||
| Oh, absolutely. | ||
| But I'm not going to stoop so low as just to dismiss them as being a moronic... | ||
| No, no, they're in control. | ||
| That's what I'm asking. | ||
| How did this dominate us? | ||
| Well, they're very much in control, but it's from sources, which hopefully I can get to later today, that are very similar. | ||
| To the mechanisms that students and the professional rioters are under control. | ||
| It has a lot to do with frequencies, EMF, and pharmaceuticals, which I've spoken to before on your show previously. | ||
| I think most of these people who are in positions of power need to be vetted so far as their health, their mental health, and their physical health. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| There are people behind this who use basically mentally ill, adult front people. | ||
| So you didn't catch that there. | ||
| He's saying that people need to be checked for mental health and what have you immediately after saying that there are essentially waves going through the air that are controlling people. | ||
| Cool, man! | ||
| All right! | ||
| Way to go A to B on that one. | ||
| We need to check your mental health out. | ||
| Yeah, that's interesting. | ||
| Yeah, so he has more to say about protesters, though. | ||
| Yeah, they are insane clowns. | ||
| We've got three minutes to break. | ||
| Let's roll through your opening salvo, Professor Hamamoto, on what we're seeing at Berkeley, what we're seeing the attack of women and the media praising it, the bizarre behavior. | ||
| Well, it's already been declared that future transhumanist or post-humanist society will be... | ||
| I was just reading the Chronicle of Higher Education, and the latest wrinkle on that is the elite institutions such as Yale. | ||
| It's the same old story, going back to Skull and Bones. | ||
| They're promoting polyamory, which is multiple husbands by a singular mom. | ||
| He meant polyandry, but he said polyamory, which is a much broader thing. | ||
| Polyamory just meant he had multiple partners. | ||
| Yeah, polyandry is more multiple men with one woman. | ||
| But, I mean, it's not like he's a professor of sexuality or anything. | ||
| Who runs over, who controls that family. | ||
| So, this is their declared intention, and how we proceed on that level. | ||
| Remains to be seen. | ||
| I have some concrete proposals that hopefully we can get to before this podcast. | ||
| Well, I remember you were on like three years ago or longer saying that they're going to have the men walk behind the women, all this. | ||
| I witnessed that at the Women's March, and the men all did it. | ||
| It was like a cult. | ||
| So start breaking that down. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| You're following the queen bee. | ||
| And, by the way, one of the strategies that we're going to use here is trolling these people and pranking them. | ||
| You recall the so-called Women's March on Washington that was Soros-funded? | ||
| And you saw the so-called Pussycap? | ||
| Well, here is one of our solutions. | ||
| At this point, he pulls out a guitar that he has sitting next to him. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's a normal guitar. | ||
| It just happens to be pink. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| There's nothing special about this guitar. | ||
| It doesn't have anything drawn on it. | ||
| It's just a pink guitar. | ||
| You know what? | ||
| That's awesome because when he said that we have an answer to the pussy hat, I thought for sure he was going to... | ||
| Pull out some giant dick hat. | ||
| Yeah, like a dick hat. | ||
| Mushroom head hat. | ||
| Like, remember those cat in the hat hats that were big for like a day in the 90s? | ||
| Oh man, that was a mess. | ||
| Like one of those, but flesh colored. | ||
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| And I gotta say, I gotta respect Professor Hamamoto for coming with props. | ||
| Because as soon as the interview started, he pulls out the book. | ||
| He's going on a jag here. | ||
| He pulls out his guitar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Later he pulls out some toothpaste that he had ordered from Alex. | ||
| Does he have one of those suitcases like the Rode prop comic? | ||
| He might as well. | ||
| That he has to pack every day? | ||
| He just has a glove box that he's pulling everything out of. | ||
| Here's what he has to say about this guitar. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| We're going to use the phallic guitars. | ||
| In pudenda pink, right? | ||
| This happens to be a pure Americana, a Fender Esquire guitar. | ||
| I took it to one of the social justice warrior rallies with my little Fender Champ amp. | ||
| And I asked to sit in. | ||
| I watched them on YouTube, and I figured out what they were trying to do. | ||
| They were trying to propagandize undergraduates with rap and hip-hop and funk. | ||
| So I said, what would be the gayest instrument in my collection that I could take to this event? | ||
| It was my pink Esquire, my pudenda pink Esquire. | ||
| And they wouldn't let me sit in. | ||
| They said, I'm sorry, brother, we just can't let it happen. | ||
| And they were hired. | ||
| This is part of the... | ||
| The cultural takeover. | ||
| What do you think about that? | ||
| Dude, like, oh, so much to unpack. | ||
| I mean, that's like, what? | ||
| Now, keep in mind, this is the guy who's saying that people need to be screened for mental health. | ||
| Like, here's the thing, is like, alright, like, let's just try to go point by point. | ||
| It's just, it's almost an overload. | ||
| It's like... | ||
| It is. | ||
| If you think the guitar is phallic, I do not want to know what your cock looks like. | ||
| Well, I mean, there's a stem to it. | ||
| Yeah, but it's like... | ||
| You have to have oversized balls if the body of the guitar... | ||
| Or just like a lot of warts or something. | ||
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True. | |
| Weird malformation, but... | ||
| You'd have nice ridges where the frets would be. | ||
| Fair. | ||
| That'd be good for a lady. | ||
| For her pleasure. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But then wait, why is rap and hip-hop... | ||
| There's a conspiracy. | ||
| For funk and hip-hop? | ||
| There's a conspiracy to get undergraduates into these urban jungle rhythms of hip-hop and funk. | ||
| That's so racist. | ||
| And the voice he does. | ||
| Sorry, my brother. | ||
| Yeah! | ||
| That adds into, like, we get what you're saying. | ||
| So wait, is his idea that these guys are homophobic? | ||
| So he's proving that by taking his quote-unquote gay instrument to try to play with them, and they say, no, your instrument's too gay. | ||
| Honestly, I don't know. | ||
| You don't know. | ||
| He doesn't elaborate on that at all, and Alex's interview style is not one to ask follow-up questions. | ||
| That's just insane. | ||
| I didn't get that, where it's like, look, I'm going to prove these guys who they really are. | ||
| I'm going to take my gay instrument. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And they're going to say, it's too gay, and then I've proved my point. | ||
| You are trapped. | ||
| With my super gay instrument. | ||
| I think he was saying that I have the gayest instrument I could possibly find, and of course they love gay instruments. | ||
| So, of course they would accept me. | ||
| Oh, so he was trying to blend. | ||
| Yeah, I think that's what he was saying. | ||
| Oh, that is... | ||
| There's no way to take that that makes it less hilarious. | ||
| Both of our theories are equally insane. | ||
| And possible. | ||
| And possible. | ||
| They could be what he's saying. | ||
| I've listened to the entire interview, and I don't know. | ||
| How is the pink guitar gay? | ||
| It's pink. | ||
| I could see as far as if you called it feminine. | ||
| I mean, it's still weird that you're genderizing your instruments, but I could see you have a pink guitar. | ||
| It's slightly more feminine. | ||
| Culture has that pink versus blue thing. | ||
| It's a little childish. | ||
| A gay guitar? | ||
| And then he looked through all his instruments to find his gayest instrument. | ||
| Why is he ranking his instruments least gay to most gay? | ||
| Meanwhile, he's broadcasting onto Alex's show from a laptop or whatever in his living room that opens into his kitchen. | ||
| So I don't know how many instruments he's got. | ||
| How does he have so many degrees? | ||
| Look, I think... | ||
| Is this a failure of this, like, the higher education system? | ||
| He might ironically be that which he is critiquing. | ||
| That's the other part to unpack, is like... | ||
| No, I mean, he does teach at UC Davis. | ||
| That's not like a... | ||
| That's a real school. | ||
| Yeah, it's not so real as fuck school. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what it could be a thing where he has, like, a sitting room next to his kitchen or something like that? | ||
| I might be... | ||
| I might be pretending it's a studio apartment when it's not. | ||
| It might be. | ||
| Or you might have some divorces and have alimony payments or something like that. | ||
| You never know what people's lives are like. | ||
| Yamamoto. | ||
| What was his name? | ||
| Dave Foley has to live in a one-bedroom apartment. | ||
| Yeah, I've heard his stories and it sounds very sad. | ||
| Yeah, so it could be a situation like that. | ||
| Hamamoto. | ||
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Hamamoto. | |
| So that was crazy. | ||
| That was nuts. | ||
| Dude, that last part was just like... | ||
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Wow. | |
| He seemed really hurt, too, that they wouldn't let him sit in. | ||
| That's not... | ||
| There's no way that's the whole story. | ||
| No. | ||
| He definitely sat down... | ||
| It's not even any of the story. | ||
| Well, yeah, it's probably just straight up made up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But if it's not made up, he definitely probably said, Hey, bros, can I sit in with my gay instrument? | ||
| And they were like, Dude, that's... | ||
| All of that's weird. | ||
| You need to leave. | ||
| And he was like, Oh! | ||
| Guess there's some real hate going on here. | ||
| He's a gray-haired Asian dude, too. | ||
| Like an old Japanese man coming in with a pink guitar with his own amp. | ||
| And by the way, it's at a protest. | ||
| It's not a concert. | ||
| I don't know if at every protest there's music. | ||
| I've gone to a number of protests in my life. | ||
| Often it's just people sitting around or walking. | ||
| There's motion involved. | ||
| There's not enough time for you to sit down and plug in your amp. | ||
| I've never been to a protest. | ||
| Is that weird? | ||
| Nah, it's fine. | ||
| It's a choice. | ||
| I think they're... | ||
| I don't like them. | ||
| It's a little bit much. | ||
| There's a lot of people around and what have you, but sometimes you... | ||
| Is it fun to, like, meet people? | ||
| I've never met anybody that protests. | ||
| What was your age range of protests? | ||
| Current to college age. | ||
| I've gone through a lot. | ||
| Even in college? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Never, like... | ||
| Well, I was in college in the Bush era and stuff. | ||
| Hey, cool sign. | ||
| Let's, like, go grab a drink. | ||
| Not saying like hitting on women, like guys or girls, like friends, you know. | ||
| I think I would go to protests with friends, so there wasn't as much like external socializing. | ||
| I guess I did get pamphlets from people and stuff like that, but not like, no, it was never, you know what, the fantasy was that, that it was like a social thing and you'd meet somebody, they'd pass you some grass, and all of a sudden you're off into a whole new world of revolution. | ||
| It was never like that. | ||
| No. | ||
| That's disappointing. | ||
| Especially now that I'm in my 30s. | ||
| Did you go to the women's march? | ||
| I didn't. | ||
| I wasn't able to that day. | ||
| I was busy. | ||
| But I did go to a number of ones around the election. | ||
| After the election. | ||
| Did it make you feel better? | ||
| It did. | ||
| It did. | ||
| It made me feel like I was a part of something more. | ||
| And it was really great to see so many different caused people. | ||
| A lot of diverse... | ||
| Do you think it's bad or good, though? | ||
| I think it's good. | ||
| You don't think it's, like, splintering? | ||
| I don't think so, because they're all merging as one to be like, all right, look, we all have our sort of pet cause, but big picture, we know all of us are fucked. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| If we let this guy do his stuff. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| It's fairly interesting. | ||
| You know what's more interesting? | ||
| The next thing? | ||
| The next thing that Hamamoto has to say. | ||
| Oh, there's more Hamamoto? | ||
| There is. | ||
| I thought that it was his coup de grace, his big finale. | ||
| Oh, no. | ||
| He goes deeper. | ||
| He has some thoughts about who these protesters are and who these radicals are. | ||
| And I don't know how to put too fine a point on this. | ||
| I don't agree with him. | ||
| I'll just say that right up top. | ||
| We'll see what you think. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It's because, and this is somewhat speculative. | ||
| You know, we can do this. | ||
| We can kind of... | ||
| Put out these hypotheses based on what we already know about decades and decades of mind control systems and programs, much of which, by the way, as I stated before, were concentrated in the East Bay. | ||
| But she and others of a certain subset within the Asian American community, most specifically, I'll say it, even though the majority are great, nice, hardworking, intelligent, and upright Christian people. | ||
| I'm talking about Filipino Americans. | ||
| I think they're coming out of the Alameda Naval Base. | ||
| They are the products of what colloquially is known as the Super Soldier Program. | ||
| And what's happened is that they come out of a total Navy family of totally administered life. | ||
| He's not done yet, but I want to point out that, Justin, when he said the Super Soldier Program, you raised your eyebrows and just gave a nod. | ||
| Like, uh-huh. | ||
| Of course they are. | ||
| No way it's not going this way. | ||
| There's no way it wasn't headed this way. | ||
| Your look on your face was not incredulous. | ||
| It wasn't like, what the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| It was like, oh yeah, oh yeah. | ||
| You had to look almost like, that's what I was going to say. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I was going to say. | ||
| Super soldier program, totally. | ||
| There's more to say about the Asian super soldiers. | ||
| Heals to health care, to education. | ||
| And there's this new generation of... | ||
| Of immigrant naval personnel of Filipino American heritage who got to the United States through their military service, who are now at the core of this so-called street actions that we're seeing in the East Bay and in Northern California. | ||
| What you're saying is you're identifying leaders that you know have a Navy background, which just means a government background. | ||
| Exactly, yeah. | ||
| It's the deep navy. | ||
| It's not the ordinary navy that we know and love, and that's defending American sovereignty. | ||
| But there's a subset. | ||
| The shadow navy. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| As you know, within any institution, there's always a shadow entity within them at the very top. | ||
| So they're coming out of Alameda, I think. | ||
| I think. | ||
| Yeah, probably. | ||
| We all know about the shadow libraries. | ||
| Shadow post office. | ||
| That's why your packages are late sometimes, because they're being transferred by the shadow post office. | ||
| Every institution has shadow up top. | ||
| It's got a shadow organization up top. | ||
| I'm going to be on the shadow version of this podcast next week. | ||
| I love that, though, that he's like, you know, it's not the Navy that we know. | ||
| And Alex is like, oh, shadow Navy. | ||
| Well, you know what, dude? | ||
| To go to your, again, like, more cynical but goddamn if it's not more probably spot-on view of these types of people in terms of, like, when we're talking about, like, and I don't feel like I was defending, but just more kind of just speaking on the fact that, like, you know, like, oh, they're turning the shrimps gay, but if you're gay, that's okay. | ||
| Like, I don't hate you. | ||
| It's also, like, it's weird how they keep doing that all the time where it's, like, Well, you know, it's not the Navy that protects us. | ||
| I love those guys. | ||
| Those are great guys. | ||
| It's the Shadow Navy. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It is weird how they always, like, separate and then retract, but it's still like... | ||
| Dude, you are still calling out the Navy. | ||
| Well, it's... | ||
| Here's my cynical take on it. | ||
| It's one way of creating a narrative about the world and never having to take responsibility for things that exist in the real world. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Because you could be like, oh, no, no, no, no. | ||
| My narrative involves these other things. | ||
| Right. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| It's not that. | ||
| So it's like... | ||
| And it's also like a way of like, if someone from the Navy were to like, you know, call in or... | ||
| Whatever hypothetical way they reach these people and go like, look, I've been part of the Navy for 30 years. | ||
| I'm a this person. | ||
| I've been on these many ships and all this is crazy. | ||
| Well, sir, thank you for your service, but you're not in the Shadow Navy, so you wouldn't know. | ||
| Everything is compartmentalized. | ||
| You don't know what goes on. | ||
| This is way above your pay grade. | ||
| And I know because someone called me and told me. | ||
| The documents are right here. | ||
| Yeah, absolutely. | ||
| It's like, okay, what the fuck? | ||
| It's just interesting. | ||
| I just can't believe this guy is- It's not interesting to me. | ||
| Well, it's just interesting psychologically, not interesting like the facts are interesting. | ||
| You know what it comes down to, to me, and I hate that it sort of boils down to this in many ways to me. | ||
| I think so much of it comes down to misplaced masculinity and weird versions of masculinity. | ||
| Please elaborate. | ||
| I'm interested in this. | ||
| Well, this guy, a lot of his research is on the desexualization of Asian men. | ||
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| In popular culture, in American culture. | ||
| That's like a real thing, though, right? | ||
| Sure. | ||
| Yeah, I think it's an interesting... | ||
| I'd love to read a book on it. | ||
| Steve Harvey just got in trouble for that, right? | ||
| Did he? | ||
| Saying that women don't want to date Asian men? | ||
| He said that on his daytime show, and he got some real shit for it. | ||
| He's not the first comic. | ||
| You probably shouldn't say it on his daytime show, though. | ||
| Yes, keep that for the stage. | ||
| Keep that for the untaped events. | ||
| The one on like 1027? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, I was never up that early. | ||
| I don't know if you do know or not, I'm a huge Steve Harvey fan. | ||
| So I knew it existed, I was just never up that early. | ||
| I've heard it in cabs. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| It's one of the greatest offenders of fake phone calls I've ever heard. | ||
| All of their call-ins are fake. | ||
| It's just all actors. | ||
| It's so embarrassing. | ||
| But then also, he is the only radio personality who's more Christian outwardly than Alex Jones. | ||
| I want to get back to you. | ||
| I don't want to let myself jump off that topic. | ||
| So he has all these interesting research topics about the desexualization of Asian men. | ||
| Then he has, of course he believes that there's an Asian super soldier program, which is a good way to undo that in your mind. | ||
| So there's that. | ||
| And then on top of that, all of this narrative about these protests and about the idea that the coming future is going to be ruled over by women. | ||
| It indicates a massive fear of women having any control over things. | ||
| I think that's what a lot of this boils down to. | ||
| I can't believe he's a teacher. | ||
| Like a professor. | ||
| Okay, here's what I would say. | ||
| When you're in college, you're still developing as an adult in many ways. | ||
| And I don't think it's right to... | ||
| Someone who's in college... | ||
| You shouldn't treat them necessarily like they're a full-grown adult because they're still figuring a lot of stuff out, developing, that sort of thing. | ||
| But they're not so impressionable that having a challenging teacher is dangerous. | ||
| So if you have a teacher, even if they are a little bit wacky, like even this guy, I could take a class of his when I was in college and be like, I've got to get through this thing. | ||
| It wouldn't make any... | ||
| It wouldn't damage me. | ||
| Based on what I told you about me in college, I would have probably been like, dude, I'm taking all this guy's classes. | ||
| Yeah, maybe. | ||
| That super soldier program is real as fuck. | ||
| I'm going to ruin every party talking about it. | ||
| Yeah, there's a decent chance. | ||
| That's the flip side of it. | ||
| You'd be like, oh, damn. | ||
| That's what I've been hearing, man. | ||
| Anyway. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Brings us to the end of our clips. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| That's... | ||
| That's This Day and Alex Jones, my man. | ||
| Man, that was a hell of a ride. | ||
| I'll be honest, I don't like... | ||
| I didn't like today's episode that much. | ||
| In what way? | ||
| I mean, this was fine, but like... | ||
| I'm like, I'm sorry. | ||
| This was a disappointing performance from Alex. | ||
| You just thought he didn't get off the deep end enough? | ||
| Yeah, and the stuff, it just wasn't Alex-y enough. | ||
| You know, there's just the thing, you can feel it. | ||
| You can feel it when he's on and when he's not, and it just felt like he wasn't really on. | ||
| His grandma just died, man. | ||
| It could be part of it. | ||
| And now that we've come to the end of this, I feel guilty that I played that. | ||
| No, it was fine. | ||
| I understand why you did it. | ||
| It made total sense. | ||
| Because it was like, oh, this is a nice moment to start things. | ||
| And then it ended in Oklahoma City. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a nice little snippet of what to be expected from the rest of the show. | ||
| And that's kind of what he does. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was interesting. | ||
| Soft kill. | ||
| Soft kill of Grandma. | ||
| Anyway, Justin, this has been fun. | ||
| Thank you so much for having me, man. | ||
| I had a great time as well. | ||
| Sweet. | ||
| You guys, we'll be back soon. | ||
| But until then, I have been a policy wonk. | ||
| Andy in Kansas, you're on the air. | ||
| Thanks for holding. | ||
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Hello Alex, I'm a first time caller. | |
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| I love your work. |