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Feb. 27, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#16: February 24, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the unfortunate turn that Alex Jones took on the Feb 24th episode of his show.  Topics include: Did they take the bait with the pickles? Does Alex want to kill trans people? Does Alex think he was born with super powers? Was Alex joking when he said repeatedly that Michelle Obama is a man?

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alex jones
27:30
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dan friesen
46:30
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jordan holmes
45:32
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alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan over here.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We are a couple of dudes who sit around and drink wine and break down Alex Jones and InfoWars.
jordan holmes
That is, yeah, that's pretty much what we do.
dan friesen
But the twist.
jordan holmes
What's the twist?
dan friesen
I know a lot about Alex Jones and have listened to his show.
jordan holmes
Oh, and I don't fucking know a thing about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
You do not.
jordan holmes
Although I'm learning too quickly.
dan friesen
Yeah, this is educational, is what it is.
jordan holmes
This is like me watching the Sesame Street of conspiracy theory shows.
dan friesen
Yeah, I wanted to start out today's show.
We're going to be covering the February 24th episode of the Alex Jones Show, but before we get into it, I want to just have a little bit of an out-of-context drop.
This is going to go up there in the Pantheon, along with I'm a Policy Walk.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Here is a great out-of-context Alex Jones drop.
alex jones
This just sounds like pedophilia to me, bro.
unidentified
I love it.
dan friesen
Sounds like pedophilia to me, bro.
unidentified
Alright.
jordan holmes
Alright, alright.
That one goes up there, yeah.
dan friesen
I wanted us to have that fun before we started because today is going to be rough.
jordan holmes
Is that our new outro now?
unidentified
No.
Instead of policy wonk, we're just going to be like, hey, this looks like pedophilia to me, bro.
dan friesen
The bro is what kills it.
unidentified
That's what's awesome.
dan friesen
I wanted to have that fun because today's episode is going to be a little murky and a little bit difficult.
jordan holmes
Oh, great.
dan friesen
It probably is the first time that I've rage turned off.
The show.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
This is an episode where I could not stand getting through the last hour.
jordan holmes
Holy cow.
dan friesen
So I don't know what happens in the last hour.
All I have is about two hours of the show that I have documented.
But it's plenty.
jordan holmes
Do you know what's crazy?
I watched the last hour and it was just an apology for the first three.
That's all it was.
It was just, you know what?
I feel like we went too far.
dan friesen
Guys, we fucked up.
I said a lot of shit I shouldn't have said.
jordan holmes
You know, the globalists are bad, but man.
I really joined the globalists this time, guys.
dan friesen
Speaking of joining the globalists, I wanted to make this announcement up top also.
This month, we take donations at patreon.com slash freezing point, and for reasons that will become clear throughout this episode, and just because we are...
We will be donating all of the proceeds that we've made, all of our donations.
It's not that much, but it's something to the Allie Forney Center in New York.
They're a charity that works with homeless, gay, and trans youth, and I think they do a great job.
And we're going to be supporting them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and if you don't donate to the podcast, donate to them anyway.
dan friesen
Sure, that would be great.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You don't need the middleman.
dan friesen
We would consider that a donation to us.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you go and support them.
jordan holmes
Well, I think that may be taking a little too much credit, but...
dan friesen
I just want to own it.
So anyway, last week, when we last left you, Alex Jones did a 13-hour live broadcast in the middle of the week.
Because he had lost his sponsor with AdRoll.
jordan holmes
Because he was broke as fuck.
He did a telethon for the underprivileged hymns of the world.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he presented it as, we're fighting against censorship, we're all about free speech, all this.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
He does this 13-hour broadcast.
It's not him most of the time.
He just does his regular show, then he leaves, and comes back to do a Reddit AMA at 8 o 'clock.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
He does this Reddit AMA.
He doesn't answer any questions.
He just screams about wild bullshit.
jordan holmes
Was it a question and answer on Reddit, or was it video?
dan friesen
It was both.
jordan holmes
It was both.
dan friesen
He ends up doing more question and answer on Reddit proper, but he did an hour and a half of it on his show, on Infowars.com.
So he's answering all these questions.
Also, people got a little suspicious because a lot of his answers ended up with him hawking products.
So it was kind of a shitty AMA in a lot of ways.
But he does that.
jordan holmes
Broke Alex Jones is my favorite new development.
It's like a whole different character.
We're in season two and it's the evil twin of Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Hobo Jones.
jordan holmes
We're going to call him Hobo Jones until he gets through this funk.
dan friesen
The thing that was super fun was I was checking in and watching that 13-hour broadcast quite a bit, and you'd have Rob Dew hosting an hour, and while he's trying to host, Alex would storm into the studio and start screaming.
unidentified
He'd start screaming, like, we need to make back this money!
dan friesen
Like a drunk stepdad.
And you could see in all of the people who work at InfoWars face.
They are scared of him.
jordan holmes
Oh boy!
dan friesen
Because he is in rage mode.
He's had too much super male vitality.
And he is charging in like a fucking dinosaur.
jordan holmes
Like he's trying to build bunk beds out of Ikea stuff.
And then he just takes it out on those two twin kids that he never wanted.
dan friesen
Rob Dew and McAdoo.
So he's screaming at everybody.
It's great.
The next day, he doesn't come in.
He has Paul Joseph Watson ends up hosting, which is no good for anybody.
alex jones
Nope.
dan friesen
And then Friday comes along.
It was Paul Joseph Watson hosted on Thursday, and then we get to Friday, and he opens the show much the same way if you're running late for work.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You might call in and bullshit your boss.
Here's what Alex Jones does.
alex jones
Gentlemen, it's Friday.
Alex Jones here.
I am on the road.
I will be in in the next hour.
We've got so much to break down.
I may even go four or five hours extra today because there is just so much to break down.
The critical battles against the globalists are key junctures right now.
The way they're trying to basically have a civil war inside the government and block Trump is amazing.
The way he's fighting back is absolutely critical and that we support him.
We're going to look at the demonization tactics that are taking place.
Stephen Colbert misrepresenting what I say and what I do.
The same tactics are used on Trump.
jordan holmes
He smoked a full carton of cools the night before, didn't he?
He went in and he is coming.
Oh, man, he sounds hungover.
dan friesen
He's probably hungover.
jordan holmes
He had a cocaine-fueled binge.
I mean, that is a 13-hour telethon and a 13-hour drink-a-thon is what we're talking about here.
dan friesen
I would assume.
And also, we're going to get deeper into this a little bit later.
But he brings up this, Stephen Colbert did a hit piece on it.
jordan holmes
Yes, yes.
Stephen Colbert stepped in on our game.
dan friesen
Yeah, fuck off, Colbert.
jordan holmes
Yeah, come on, Colbert.
Are you going to step to us?
dan friesen
I want to say this, and it's not because he's treading in our turf.
I have to kind of agree with Alex.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I kind of agree that what Stephen Colbert did on his show was a little unfair.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
We've discussed this a little bit.
jordan holmes
You already pre-rolled this episode as he says some of the worst shit we've ever heard.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Now, before that, you're saying it's a hatchet job?
dan friesen
I think the Stephen Colbert thing in particular is a little bit unfair.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because he does use a ton of clips of Alex Jones saying stuff out of context.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And we talked about this.
Whenever you're trying to run a clip package, you have to run...
It's short stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You can't give it the proper context that it deserves.
jordan holmes
It's gotta be soundbites.
dan friesen
Now, the thing that I think is interesting is that Alex Jones is way worse than Stephen Colbert is making out.
jordan holmes
With context, the things he's saying is worse.
So it wasn't a hatchet job enough, is what you're saying.
dan friesen
Well, it is unfair journalism, but it's lazy on the wrong side of it.
jordan holmes
It's unfair to portray him as less of the monstrous lunatic that he is.
dan friesen
Well, he portrays him as just a crazy person, and that's not fair.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, you're absolutely right.
He is not just a crazy person.
dan friesen
It goes back to that Dave Chappelle thing.
It's like calling someone crazy is the worst thing you can do because it takes away whatever else they say.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And for good or for bad, that's true.
If you just call Alex Jones crazy, you're not dealing with the stuff that he's saying that he believes.
jordan holmes
Nor the influence that that has.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Over the fucking president now.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he gets into the specifics a bit later about the Colbert stuff, but I want to say I'm on his side a little bit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I do think that Colbert could have done a much better job.
unidentified
Anyway.
alex jones
And ways to further mobilize the base to ensure that we defeat this entire program.
We also have the Judas Goat, Glenn Beck, going on all these shows saying Stephen Bannon is dangerous because he's, quote, a nationalist.
Glenn Beck is openly declaring himself a globalist.
He's always been one to control the movement.
And see, they were going to ban conservative and libertarian media this year.
Hillary had admitted that when she got elected.
And so they're still going ahead with that program.
Beck thought he sided with the win.
jordan holmes
Once again, they're doing what they say we're doing, so we're going to do it.
Hillary would have banned conservative media, so it's totally fine if Trump actually bans...
News.
dan friesen
Mainstream media.
jordan holmes
Actual, reputable journalistic institutions.
dan friesen
He gets into this a little bit, and I think we should deal with it when he gets to it.
Because Alex spells out a little bit more what he's talking about and his beliefs about the media stuff a little later.
And so we'll get to that then, instead of just spouting it now.
jordan holmes
Well, the Glenn Beck openly declaring himself a globalist seems like a very out of character.
unidentified
Judas Goat.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He talks a lot about going back on this episode.
jordan holmes
Where did he do this?
dan friesen
He went on CNN.
jordan holmes
He went on CNN and said, I am a globalist while crying and admitting all of the lies.
dan friesen
And Alex keeps saying he's...
jordan holmes
Pulled out the fucking chalkboard behind him and explained in detail how he became part of the globalists.
dan friesen
Alex Jones keeps being like, he looks constipated up there, this fucking smug asshole.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, I'm not going to defend going back on that one.
alex jones
And he was going to be the representative now of the conservatives.
He was going to be the fake conservative who then played along with their system as controlled opposition.
But they lost because America was in such a critical crisis.
Finally, the intelligence agencies and other patriot groups ensured Hillary Clinton.
couldn't fully steal the election.
She did steal part of it.
And so now they're in such panic mode, they're just going ahead with their program as if Hillary still got elected.
And that's why the government and the shadow government is behaving as if Trump doesn't exist and the American people don't exist with total arrogance, but they're failing.
We have the initiative.
We have the upper hand.
We have justice and the right side of history on our side and destiny.
But most importantly, pray to God and get on your knees.
And repent for everything you've done.
I do as well.
Humble ourselves before the Lord and ask God for guidance and to lift the scales from our fellow countrymen and women's eyes and others around the globe.
I'm Alex Jones.
This is the Infowar, and you are the key, the critical anchor to that whole thing.
In the last two days, we've seen massive, unprecedented support coming in since Google banned us through AdRoll from being able to online advertise.
Just incredible jackboot, chilling effect censorship.
But we're going to find ways to defeat that.
dan friesen
And then David Knight is in the studio hosting.
jordan holmes
He got a little bit of the theatrics in there with the little, you've been part of the info war.
dan friesen
You are the key.
alex jones
We need you.
dan friesen
Whenever he does that voice.
jordan holmes
To buy super male vitality.
dan friesen
Whenever he does that voice, you know he's full of shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, that's big.
Oh, and I forgot to mention this.
I figured out, I've been keeping a spreadsheet of the times he tugs his ear.
jordan holmes
You've got a spreadsheet!
dan friesen
I do.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
We will be auctioning off the data file of that spreadsheet.
dan friesen
It's in the dirty dossier.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So, it's not 100% of the time this is the case, but every time he insinuates that everybody knows something, or whenever he insinuates that this is widespread information, the crazy bullshit that he's saying, he tucks his ear.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
It's very consistent.
jordan holmes
Wow!
dan friesen
Every time he's like, you all know.
And then he always just tugs his ear.
jordan holmes
And then he tugs his ear?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Like the kid's version of holding your cross fingers behind your back?
dan friesen
More or less, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
So he knows he's lying then?
dan friesen
I think that's...
jordan holmes
At the very least subconsciously, we have to admit...
dan friesen
There's a piece of him that's struggling to get out.
This part that knows he's lying is fighting against his consciousness.
jordan holmes
New conspiracy theory.
dan friesen
I like this.
jordan holmes
He absorbed a twin in the womb.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
And that twin is the good twin.
unidentified
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
That's the Arnold Schwarzenegger twin in this Danny DeVito-Arnold Schwarzenegger buddy comedy movie.
dan friesen
I don't hate this.
jordan holmes
All right.
Now, the twin is trying to escape the best way it can and change for the better.
unidentified
Through the ear.
jordan holmes
Through the ear.
Exactly.
dan friesen
So he's not tugging his ear.
He's plugging it.
jordan holmes
Like Athena.
As we all know, the good Hobo Jones resides within the ears.
Of the bad Hobo Jones.
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
Hobo Jones would be a pretty good name for a DeShiel Hammett character.
I would read a noir about Hobo Jones.
dan friesen
I'm in.
Let's kickstart that shit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Also, I want to say thank you to our friend JP.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was the coolest fucking thing.
dan friesen
We're going to put this up on our Tumblr.
He sent in a ludicrous remix with Alex Jones' verse in it.
jordan holmes
And, you know, I thought I was right.
Now I know I'm right.
dan friesen
A hundred percent.
jordan holmes
Because it nails it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Right on beat.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Perfect.
Well, not totally.
Well, I mean, for him, for him.
dan friesen
So Alex's next clip, he has a bunch of thoughts about Glenn Beck, and he misrepresents the history of culture along the way.
jordan holmes
The all culture?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
You've got Glenn Beck on CNN, CBS, ABC, it's everywhere going.
It's very dangerous what Trump and Banner are doing, economic nationalism.
We can't run our own affairs.
He takes total globalism in our country, totally captured, and selling out to world interest, and says that if we do things that are good for our jobs and our industry, if Americans were to organize as a union, that's what a country's supposed to be, is the original union.
It has ideas, it has policies, it has beliefs, it has unifying the spiritual systems, cultural systems, and then they have a goal of what that culture wants to be.
jordan holmes
Has he come on as being for unions?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Never?
dan friesen
Not really, no.
I don't think he would be into unions.
jordan holmes
What you're saying is he doesn't like it when a large group of people get together to fight against a shadowy cabal of very, very rich people?
dan friesen
Not in that context, no.
jordan holmes
Not in that context.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
He likes it in a larger, more global context, you may say.
dan friesen
Yes.
If you're against the globalists, you can unionize.
jordan holmes
Right.
But what if the globalists are your CEO?
dan friesen
That's an interesting question.
I don't think he wrestles with that.
jordan holmes
I want to get into that.
dan friesen
Well, you know how Alex Jones says...
jordan holmes
Get him on the phone.
dan friesen
Bring, bring.
You know how he says that he's a classical liberal?
jordan holmes
Sorry, you've reached Hobo Jones.
I'm still drunk.
Leave a message.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Fight the globalists.
Leave a message.
dan friesen
Buy our pills.
I think he would say that he's into unions, but what unions are now isn't what unions are supposed to be.
I think that's probably the argument he would make.
Because that way he can play both sides.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He can say, I am...
jordan holmes
He's four unions, but not in their current incarnation.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Something like that.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
He's so slippery in your voice.
dan friesen
Yeah.
In my rationalizing his dumbass beliefs.
jordan holmes
As long as you're spitting it, it makes sense.
alex jones
And normally cultures are known for different things that they strive at and they succeed at.
Or they're barbarians.
You've had those throughout history in every sector of the world.
They're into murder, death, cannibalism, human sacrifice, things like that.
Civilization is into art and literature and culture.
But the globalists are bringing in a corporate barbarism, a barbarous system that totally, in a piratical way, wages war against humanity from a psychopathic, cold-blooded perspective.
And that's all basically coming to an end because humanity is rediscovering itself right now.
dan friesen
So that's a wild oversimplification of cultures.
jordan holmes
No, I think it makes perfect sense.
You've either got culture or you're a barbarian into cannibalism!
Does he not know that cannibalists also have a lot of culture?
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
Barbarian civilizations often had amazing cultures.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah!
dan friesen
They created art.
jordan holmes
I mean, the Aztecs famously cut the heads off people off of a giant pyramid or whatever shit it was, but that pyramid was made of fucking gold, so you gotta give them one.
dan friesen
They had sophisticated understandings of the stars and time and stuff like that.
That's very cultural.
jordan holmes
The Mayans had some sort of calendar one time.
It was pretty important for a while until we found out it wasn't.
dan friesen
Yeah, until 2012.
jordan holmes
It happened real fast.
unidentified
It's still a great calendar.
jordan holmes
I'm a big fan of the word of the day that it has on it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's just that our interpretation of it, or not our interpretation of it, some wacky people's interpretation was off.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's like having a calendar where every day the word of the day is the apocalypse.
dan friesen
Yeah, the thing is that if you look at culture like this, it's so black and white.
And it's...
Dumb.
It's very dumb.
jordan holmes
But I think in our understanding of Alex Jones, nuance has never been a big portion of his endgame there.
He's not one to try and see the best in both worlds.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
But he is a historical scholar.
jordan holmes
He's read...
Thousands of history books.
dan friesen
He has.
jordan holmes
At the age of six, he started.
dan friesen
Probably not about barbarians, clearly.
jordan holmes
Way more than all of us, except Trump.
And Ron Paul.
I think that's what his real idea there is.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, he gets to the headlines of the day.
He transitions from this misunderstanding of culture into misunderstanding everything that's happening.
jordan holmes
Like the Jay Leno segment.
dan friesen
Jaywalking?
jordan holmes
No, the one where he reads headlines.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
And he's like, hey, look at these people and their typos.
dan friesen
How fucking awesome would it be if Alex Jones had a new segment where he makes fun of wedding announcements?
Anyway, here's the headlines.
jordan holmes
Tia is getting married to Frank.
She sounds globalist.
That was a good one.
alex jones
But look at these headlines I'm going to cover when we come back.
CNN host blames intolerant father for a 12-year-old girl not wanting to see a men's penis in the locker room.
This has been said by Obama as well.
This is Como, who said you can't read WikiLeaks, only he can.
People say, well, that sounds crazy.
Why would he tweet that and say that?
Because they're told to to get you used to sexualizing your children.
This is pedophilia.
I don't know if him saying it is a promotion of himself.
I'm not saying he's one.
Oh, certainly not.
No, I'm saying that...
Saying how dare your daughter not want to see a man in the locker room with his penis.
jordan holmes
He's totally called Cuomo a pedophile before.
dan friesen
I think he's suggested.
jordan holmes
He's totally said he was.
dan friesen
In this episode, he does call him a predator.
But then he's like, I'm not saying he's a pedophile.
He's drifting into slander territory.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I want to say that he's done that before.
But more in a group situation.
He was rattling off a list of names, and he happened to be on one of them, who's part of the pedophile cabal, where you have to fuck a kid in order to jump into the group.
I don't know.
dan friesen
This is one instance on this episode of maybe three or four where he runs afoul of what I think is legal.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, calling Chris Cuomo a predator and all this stuff, that might be legally actionable.
jordan holmes
Uh, if you are a predator, you don't want to be misrepresented.
dan friesen
Wait, do you mean like alien versus?
jordan holmes
I am pretty sure that's what I was going for, yes.
Now, nobody, they wouldn't be able to take him to court, of course, because they wouldn't be seen in court.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You have to have standing and you have to show up, and if you're invisible, nope.
dan friesen
Oh, that's a good point.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
So, this is his big headline of the day, and it runs throughout the show, and it is essentially about how...
You're being called closed-minded and a bigot if you don't want men with their big old penises in the locker room with your daughter.
jordan holmes
He's not talking about trans bathroom bills, is he?
dan friesen
He is.
jordan holmes
Okay, so he frames the trans bathroom bill as your parents of a daughter, and you're intolerant because...
It seems like your daughter is going into a bathroom where a big old man's penis is just waiting for her.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And you're intolerant because you're like, I wish there weren't a penis there.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alright.
I get the feeling that that's not the angle that the bill actually is taking, right?
unidentified
No.
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
No.
It's not the one penis for all bill.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
I've done some looking into this issue.
Because I tried to find any instance.
I was trying to be overly charitable.
I tried to find any instances of...
jordan holmes
A 12-year-old girl or so.
dan friesen
No.
Any instances of attacks or assaults happening in bathrooms because of trans individuals.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Now, I found one article that listed five.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
If you break down what those five are...
jordan holmes
And this is the only article...
And these are the only five that you could find?
dan friesen
This is the only documented things I could find.
Anything concrete.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because this actually had sourcing and citations.
unidentified
Right, right.
jordan holmes
It wasn't just the insinuation.
dan friesen
No.
These instances were all dudes dressed up like women to get into bathrooms to videotape people in the bathrooms.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
This is not the issue that we're talking about.
That can happen with or without this bill.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That's just someone in a bad 80s movie.
Oh, Porky's.
jordan holmes
You're talking about Porky's.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
This is just like...
jordan holmes
So is that how simple people view trans?
Yes.
As Porky's?
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
As Porky's people.
dan friesen
Or what's that movie?
Sex Boat?
jordan holmes
Sex Boat?
dan friesen
There's a porno where guys dress up like women to get on an all-female cruise, and then they bang everybody.
jordan holmes
I never saw Sex Boat.
dan friesen
Oh, you should see Sex Boat.
jordan holmes
I saw The Love Boat.
I'm assuming that was a prequel.
dan friesen
There are similarities.
But this is the kind of toxic, cancerous thinking that is really plaguing a lot of people, and Alex can't get his head around, is that you judge an issue by people who aren't what the conversation is about.
These people are criminals.
jordan holmes
As we all know, that is a straw man argument, which Alex Jones has...
dan friesen
Doesn't understand.
jordan holmes
Does not understand at all.
Again, he thinks that is an argument about men made out of straw.
dan friesen
Yeah.
These instances that you can find that are concrete...
Aren't indicative of what trans people want.
They want to be able to go to the bathroom in the bathroom that suits what they identify as.
These people who have assaulted people are pervy dudes who are trying to pull a fast one.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's not what this is about.
jordan holmes
So this, to me, has that same feel of like...
I'm against homosexual sex.
And you're like, okay, so a man and a man and a woman and a woman.
Well, I don't think about the woman and the woman part so much.
It's dudes fucking each other.
It has a little of that feel.
In the trans bathroom thing, it's always about protecting your daughter.
dan friesen
Boy, it is never about...
jordan holmes
It's never about protecting your son from a creepy...
dan friesen
It's never talking about female to male folk.
jordan holmes
Right, which seems like the moment they do, they'd have to start talking about the fact that...
Men are far more likely to sexually assault another boy in the men's bathroom.
And they're even more...
And that's a much more prevalent thing.
Just dudes who identify as pedophiles.
And then the much more likely thing there is that if you are trans, you're going to go into a bathroom and there's a way higher chance...
Of you being sexually assaulted or physically assaulted.
dan friesen
Well, case in point, I found this list of five, and they aren't real trans issues.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
And you can find thousands.
jordan holmes
They're deceptions.
dan friesen
You can find thousands of instances of trans people who were harassed in bathrooms.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
So, I mean, the argument is bullshit.
And it makes me furious.
jordan holmes
100% bullshit.
dan friesen
And it gets so much worse on this episode.
jordan holmes
Has he...
This is the thing that I think about.
My parents are almost certainly for the trans bathroom bill.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I don't think they've ever met a trans person.
dan friesen
I don't think Alex has either.
jordan holmes
So to them, the argument makes sense because to them, a trans person means a cross-dresser.
dan friesen
Or a pervert.
jordan holmes
Or a pervert.
dan friesen
They have this image in their head of what the reality is and it's not.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
They don't understand that you can be...
That you're not.
You're not the person that they say you are.
When you go into the bathroom, you're going into the wrong bathroom.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's how your life is.
Every time you've gone to the bathroom, for the most part, you felt like you were in the wrong place.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then now they're telling you...
Not that you should go to the right place.
That you should be forced to stay in this wrong place.
dan friesen
And that you're fucked up.
jordan holmes
And you're the worst.
Yeah.
Just the fact that you're asking to do that makes you a...
dan friesen
An enemy of our culture.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
So fucking evil.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, let's save some of our righteous indignation for when it really needs to come out.
jordan holmes
I'm already out.
I'm out of righteousness.
alex jones
You're intolerant.
See how that works?
Sexualizing your children, it starts with ending genders.
They're not having you accept other genders.
They're ending them.
All these well-meaning liberals are like, let's be nice to someone who thinks they're a dog or you think you're blind.
The state will pay to dump bleach in your eyes and then will pay for all your welfare for the rest of your lives.
This is mental illness.
jordan holmes
Why is it that he's mad?
That liberals are saying, be nice to somebody who's not bothering you.
dan friesen
I don't think that anybody who supports trans rights would be like, oh yeah, you think you're blind?
Let's take your eyes out.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Here's the thing.
That has happened before.
dan friesen
Sure, there's people who think that they should be amputees and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Who do the whole thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And that is...
I still think you should be nice to them.
dan friesen
Sure.
Right?
jordan holmes
Why is he so mad that, hey, this person wants to be a dog?
Are they hurting anybody?
I mean, sometimes they bark when I walk by.
dan friesen
They're going to fuck your dog at the dog park.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, okay.
dan friesen
Just be cool.
unidentified
Be cool.
jordan holmes
They're not hurting anybody.
dan friesen
But you know what?
Alex Jones, one of his big things is about how he has these ideas, but he doesn't hate people.
jordan holmes
All right?
alex jones
Mental illness, they're imposing as a cultural virus to shut us down.
Doesn't mean we hate anybody.
In fact, the first rollouts of different things they come out with sometimes are kind of interesting.
But it's mint like candy to make you think it's something really good until it sucks you down that vortex.
So I don't hate anybody.
And of course, humans explore things and do things.
They're taking that natural...
Curiosity, all those things that happen as you're an adult and they twist it when you're a child and tell you you're bad because you're freaked out by a 15-year-old or 16-year-old young man in the women's little girls' showers at a public school.
Oh, and now you're upset about whiteboards.
So all over the country, colleges are removing them.
I saw that in Michigan two days ago with the university pulling it out and the Detroit Press covering it.
Mainstream news, straight face.
jordan holmes
No, you can't.
alex jones
Oh, good.
Get rid of those.
Somebody might write on them.
Might hurt someone.
That's saying ban books.
Ban books or someone might write something that hurts your feelings.
See?
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
It's the end of culture, the end of language.
dan friesen
So I apologize about the screwing up the clips there.
No, you can't.
jordan holmes
You can't.
No, you can't.
You can't go from that to whiteboards.
dan friesen
Well, also, the idea that people are showering in high school now is silly.
No one's really doing that.
I haven't been for years and years.
That's not what...
People don't shower.
jordan holmes
I never showered in high school.
I was actually afraid of seeing a 15-year-old boy's penis.
dan friesen
As a dude.
jordan holmes
But frankly, I think I was afraid of seeing my own penis at that point in time.
It was just too raw.
Too physical.
alex jones
You're right.
dan friesen
That transition to the whiteboards thing is crazy.
So I hunted down the article that he was talking about with the whiteboards.
And Michigan State University has banned whiteboards on dorm room doors.
And they did this specifically because they recognize that most communication that's done between people now is on texting and on Twitter and on Facebook, and there's no real utility to having a thing on your wall.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Additionally, they had multiple instances of people writing racial slurs on them and attacking people.
So they're like, this doesn't really help, and the...
People have been being victimized.
We're just going to not allow whiteboards on doors.
Alex takes that.
jordan holmes
That's the least they could do.
The absolute least.
They're not combating any of the horrible slurs or anything like that.
They're just like, hey, you know what?
This doesn't help.
And it's used to hurt sometimes, so why bother with it?
Let's just not do it.
dan friesen
I have two...
Points about it, one agrees completely with what you're saying, is that you're dealing with the non-issue and not dealing with the real issue, which is, why would someone write those things?
And taking away the whiteboards isn't going to take away the hate.
So that's one piece.
But then the other piece is that Alex is like, they're going to ban any kind of public talk.
That's not what this is.
You're extrapolating this so wrong.
jordan holmes
And he makes it sound like it's in the classroom.
Like, oh, teachers want to teach about...
The evils of globalism.
I don't know what they would be teaching about that he hates.
Probably something about how people should be allowed to have unions, but not unionized.
I can't follow the twisted words anymore.
dan friesen
Well, likening it to book burning, too, is so stupid.
It's just incredibly stupid.
But this next clip is even stupider.
jordan holmes
You know what I actually just found out today?
One of the big things that...
One of the big book burnings that the Nazis had was actually of an institute that did a lot of trans research.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like there was, for a long time in the 20s, kind of a, you know, we're all paying attention to this kind of thing, we're treating it as something that's real, that's this kind of gender dysmorphia, all of these different types of things.
A lot of amazing research was done, and then whenever that nationalist assholery started...
Then they went to those places and burned those books.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
Because, again, they master-raced it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They wanted to do this, stamp out anything that would suggest otherwise.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
So, again, Nazis hate trans people across centuries.
dan friesen
And it's not that we can't make a false equivalence and say...
Nazis hate trans people.
Alex hates trans people.
Therefore, Alex is a Nazi.
jordan holmes
But we can say that Milo is a Nazi.
I've established that.
I'm never going to let that go.
dan friesen
So anyway, this next clip, Project Veritas just leaked, like, I don't know, hundreds of hours of behind-the-scenes audio from CNN.
Really?
Yeah.
And I've listened to a little bit of it.
jordan holmes
That sounds boring.
dan friesen
I've listened to a little bit of it, and it is boring.
But then...
Anybody who's posted anything about it is all fake.
It's all, like, someone posted a clip of Dog the Bounty Hunter when he left that really racist voicemail, and they said it was Jake Tapper.
And it's like, this isn't from that leak, even.
What are you doing?
jordan holmes
Jake Tapper does not sound like Dog the Bounty Hunter.
dan friesen
Does not.
jordan holmes
Very much not.
dan friesen
So Alex has this little statement about the CNN leaks.
alex jones
Mainstream media claims nothing juicy in 119 hours of CNN leaks.
Of course, there is a bunch.
jordan holmes
Any.
Name any.
Pick one.
dan friesen
Pick one.
Just one.
jordan holmes
Alex, one.
Just one.
Tell me you've listened to...
More than an hour of it.
dan friesen
I'm sure he hasn't listened to any of it.
jordan holmes
I guarantee he hasn't listened to any of it.
Yeah, but then he's- I guarantee nobody's listened to any of it.
It's just a bunch of pitch meetings and shit.
dan friesen
Probably.
I don't fucking know.
I don't care if someone wants to give me a nice, detailed, non-pizzagate-y breakdown of what's in those.
jordan holmes
Yeah, listen to the hundreds of hours of very boring conversations.
dan friesen
My man, I got a job.
I don't have time for that shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
dan friesen
So he gets back to Glenn Beck now and then repeats one of his old- Glenn Beck, Bannon's economic nationalism agenda is not conservative.
alex jones
It's dangerous.
They're just saying you have a country.
The Ninth Circuit banned wearing American flags at school.
jordan holmes
False equivalence.
dan friesen
And not true.
As we've discussed, if you go...
jordan holmes
Even if what he's saying is true, it doesn't make sense.
And it's not even that.
dan friesen
Yeah, but this is indicative of something that Alex does that I want to take the time to call out, which is that he has a lie.
Which is that the Ninth Circuit banned wearing American flags.
The truth is that they banned it on Cinco de Mayo because there were groups of students who were threatening Mexican students.
jordan holmes
We've covered it.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
Again, it's very much the whiteboard situation all over again.
dan friesen
100%.
jordan holmes
They're not going after the real problem.
They're just making it a step harder.
Sure.
Or they're forcing that creativity of racism and hate to go in another different direction.
dan friesen
Sure, and it might be misguided, but it's absolutely not what Alex is saying it is.
jordan holmes
And at the very least, they're trying.
dan friesen
But because he knows that no one's going to look into it, he gets to repeat it, and everyone's like, oh, I've heard him say that repeatedly.
It must be true.
So he has these riffs that he can go on, like the Ninth Circuit banned the shirts.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And stuff like that.
It's like, oh, okay.
If you're not paying attention, it's like, yeah, okay.
jordan holmes
And those become like waystones on the Pats.
So he steps off of this long, big narrative and then conflates that with the waystone.
You know, like, oh, Bannon's economic plan is bad.
Just like, as you guys already know, banning flags is bad.
dan friesen
It's almost like a get-her-done, too.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's like, just toss it in.
Toss it in, everyone loves it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, just throw it in.
It's a crowd pleaser.
Everybody gives a big round of applause whenever they hear it.
alex jones
Woo!
unidentified
Shirt or on your car because it's hateful.
alex jones
It might hurt someone.
First, it's ban the KKK, ban some black racist group.
Then it's ban whiteboards, ban brown bags, ban American flags.
Then it's take down all the statues.
jordan holmes
Oh, we got another drop there.
dan friesen
He didn't, like, he's listing things that people haven't done.
No one's banned the KKK.
jordan holmes
No, God.
dan friesen
Even though everyone's against them, everyone thinks they're a bunch of assholes because they are, no one's banned the KKK.
So he's starting...
jordan holmes
How would you even start banning the KKK?
dan friesen
I don't know.
But even liberal people aren't like, hey, listen, we need to not allow them to say this horrible shit that they say.
jordan holmes
Again, a huge plot point in the Blues Brothers.
Even in liberal bastions like the Blues Brothers, there's a giant support for...
You guys should probably allow these Nazis to at least say what they need to say.
It's America.
dan friesen
So there is this false slippery slope that even the beginning part isn't true.
And he tries to do this repeatedly with this, the first they came for blank, and I said nothing.
That sort of thing?
jordan holmes
First they came for the KKK, and I said nothing.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
For I was not in the KKK.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Then they came for an unnamed black racist group, because we can't pick one.
dan friesen
I assume he either means the Black Panthers or probably now Black Lives Matter.
unidentified
Of course.
dan friesen
Because he thinks that they're terrorists.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
They're racist.
unidentified
All they are about is cop killing.
dan friesen
Sweet.
Sweet.
Good times, Alex.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Thanks, Alex.
dan friesen
Let's get to this next clip.
This he's talking about and misrepresenting the comments of Melissa Harris Perry.
And I'll get to explain why he is full of shit in a moment.
alex jones
Chris Cuomo.
What an...
Embarrassing creature.
But he thinks he's going to condition you.
And tell their audience of already Stockholm Syndrome, learned helplessness kooks, that okay, the next thing is you've got to let your daughters have, you know, hell, you have a senior in high school.
In those showers with your daughter.
jordan holmes
Whoa, not a senior!
alex jones
And if somebody says anything, well, you're a bad person.
And these aren't like cherry-picked examples.
unidentified
Yes, they are.
alex jones
It's meant to be extreme.
jordan holmes
They're not even cherry-picked.
alex jones
Melissa Harris-Perry go on TV two years ago and say, your kids belong to us, and we're getting rid of the family, basically.
And as we see the family fall apart, we understand they're single parents.
We understand communities help.
But the point is, that's the good side of it.
The bad side of it is, it was all engineered.
Because we see communities in crisis, and we say, this is bad.
They go, oh, you hate those communities.
No, we don't.
dan friesen
Yeah, you do.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you do.
dan friesen
But also, this Melissa Harris-Perry thing...
jordan holmes
Your children are ours!
unidentified
I, Melissa Harris-Perry, decree it!
dan friesen
She was talking about...
There was a 30-second video that was aired on MSNBC or something like that.
Some news station.
And she's talking about how we need to take a more community-based stance on children.
Like, we need to recognize that, you know...
Children aren't the property of their parents, and it takes a community to raise children.
jordan holmes
It's literally an old saying, it takes a village.
dan friesen
Yeah, and maybe she was maybe a little uncareful with her words, but what she was saying wasn't what Alex is saying.
What she says is that children belong to the communities that they live in, which is to say...
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Mm-hmm.
Your child can damage everybody else.
So it is a community-minded thing whenever you say, like, hey, we're all against you being a complete and total asshole.
Be nice to people who want to be dogs.
That's the point.
That's all I'm stuck on now.
All the rest of the shit that he's saying, I'm done.
I just want you to be nice to people who want to be dogs.
dan friesen
That would be great.
jordan holmes
I think we should.
dan friesen
What a world.
jordan holmes
Do we have a charity for that?
dan friesen
Well, there's, I mean, we could just give money to cosplayers, I guess.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Goddamn Dave from IT cosplaying again.
dan friesen
You know what Dave and IT does on his weekends is his own gir darn business.
jordan holmes
You're right.
dan friesen
Anyway, that's stupid, and I really think that Alex, it goes back to his inability to comprehend what he's seeing or hearing.
Because he sees and hears that, and he's like, oh, fuck, they want to destroy the family.
It's not what she's saying.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
What she's advocating for, even taken in the worst possible way, leads to, we gotta destroy families.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's way made up.
dan friesen
Way.
jordan holmes
That seems too made up, even for Alex.
That seems too made up.
Does he...
That one is the...
That's suspicious.
I don't like that one.
That one seems like he's stretching.
dan friesen
That one seems like he's stretching?
jordan holmes
Well, for him.
dan friesen
So let's keep it running.
jordan holmes
Because that's as if he didn't...
Listen at all.
dan friesen
It was a 30-second clip.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like he got it from eight different secondhand...
dan friesen
Probably got it from Drudge.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, yeah, that's a good point.
dan friesen
So, let's just keep a running tally here.
We have lies about, you know...
Trans people in bathrooms.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
We have lies about chalkboards.
We have lies about CNN leaks.
We have a lie about the Ninth Circuit.
We have a lie about Melissa Harris Perry.
jordan holmes
MHP.
dan friesen
And now we're going to get to one of our old favorites.
jordan holmes
Are we going to add Glenn Beck in there?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I don't care to stand up for him.
jordan holmes
I don't think we need to do that.
alex jones
He was a communist in South America who...
unidentified
He's talking about the Pope.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
alex jones
So help round up communists that weren't following orders the grassroots and kill them.
He's known for rounding up priests and villagers by the thousands and killing them.
So he's worse than a communist.
He's a globalist controller who manages the communist slave farms.
Remember Obama went to South America and said, you'll have communism in your country, mega banks will be private, and then they'll come in and work with you, meaning gang rape you.
But it's okay because Obama said it.
Can't have air conditioning, can't have cars.
It's okay, he said it.
The elites will be rich.
You will have nothing.
But I'm black.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
That doesn't sound racist or classist at all.
dan friesen
Yikes.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Such a disconnect.
jordan holmes
That doesn't sound racist or classist at all.
Was he talking about what he just said?
dan friesen
I think he was talking about what Obama said.
jordan holmes
I want to say that what he said...
dan friesen
He was reacting to himself?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
Again, twin absorbed in the womb.
dan friesen
Possibly.
jordan holmes
Trying to get out at that last second of just like...
Hey, if you can hear me out there, if you can hear me out there, this sounds racist and classist.
dan friesen
So there we have another lie, which we've documented in the past.
jordan holmes
So the Pope was known as rounding up thousands of priests and villagers in South America while he was a communist.
dan friesen
Because he's a Jesuit.
jordan holmes
And he's known for this.
dan friesen
Known on the streets.
jordan holmes
Where?
Where is he known for this?
dan friesen
On the streets, baby.
jordan holmes
On the streets?
On the streets of South America?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
We need to send a correspondent out there.
dan friesen
We gotta get my cat down to South America and get the real scoop.
jordan holmes
Let's send Alex Jones' son down there just to see what he can figure out.
dan friesen
So the other lie is that Obama air conditioning thing which we went over in a past episode.
That is not at all what he was saying.
Again, get her done.
But see, these are all these things.
We have examples here of at least six complete lies within the span of probably half an hour of his show.
And that's crazy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You need to keep that in mind for something he says in the future.
jordan holmes
It's more like I want to call it a complete fabrication.
A lie implies that he's mischaracterizing the truth, where it seems as though we're just in a world where he's just making fantasies up.
dan friesen
He's making fantasies up surrounding...
jordan holmes
He writes fan fiction for reality.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
That's what he's doing.
dan friesen
Paranoid fan fiction.
jordan holmes
Paranoid fan fiction, yeah.
dan friesen
And I mean, I hate the term, but...
If you want to talk fake news, it's kind of what it is.
jordan holmes
I think we have to let this...
We can't do it anymore.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
So anyway...
Fake news is meaningless now.
Fake news is its own fake news now.
dan friesen
It's its own meme.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, Alex now gets on to a little bit of a treatise that he has about how he sort of tricks the media into covering things.
This is his fourth dimensional chess moment.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
dan friesen
So this one's pretty silly.
alex jones
And we've got...
Colbert attacking me, saying I'm like a guy, you know, on steroids and peyote.
Because they can take clips, and there's a clip they play where they go, I'm anti-gay.
Or anti-gay.
Of course, I really said, I'm not anti-gay.
And he goes, oh, we're not cutting these clips up, so to show you here's some more, a bunch of real quick clips out of context.
We're going to analyze this propaganda and go over it.
So, just like they made fun and I said, Hillary clearly didn't open the pickle jar.
It didn't pop.
Everybody did it themselves and said, yeah, she's a liar.
And then Kimmel had to say, okay, Alex Jones is right, it's true.
But I knew they'd take the bait on the pickles.
dan friesen
I love that line.
jordan holmes
I knew they'd take the bait on the pickles.
unidentified
I love that.
jordan holmes
That's a Sherlock Holmes line, right?
dan friesen
That's a shirt.
That's our first shirt.
jordan holmes
I knew they'd take the bait on the pickles.
dan friesen
So he's arguing that he makes sensational claims that he knows there's truth behind in order to trick the media into confirming the things that he says.
Now, his example that he gives is that Hillary Clinton couldn't open a jar of pickles.
jordan holmes
Right.
Picklegate, as we all know.
dan friesen
So fucking meaningless.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, I mean, like, your bigger points, you haven't proved at all, but yes, you proved that on a fucking nighttime TV show, like a late night show, they rigged the jar of pickles.
Because they're doing a bit.
Of course they did.
They also, they pre-set up all the conversation they're gonna have.
Because it's a show.
jordan holmes
Is that a thing?
What is he referencing?
I did not know about this whole pickle bullshit.
I thought that was just a fun little turn of phrase.
dan friesen
As a joke, on Jimmy Kimmel's show...
Because everyone was talking about how weak Hillary Clinton was.
As a goof, they had her open a jar of pickles.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
To prove that she's strong.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
As if that would prove that she's strong to begin with.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
That's a borderline vague sexist thing, right?
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Like you need your husband to open a jar of pickles for you, isn't that like a 1950s?
dan friesen
I think if you want to fully unpack it, yeah, there's that in there.
Right.
jordan holmes
Now I'm mad at...
Jimmy Kimmel.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's his fault.
dan friesen
There's other reasons to be mad at him, too.
jordan holmes
Let's start with Jimmy.
dan friesen
Next episode, all Kimmel.
So, the argument that Alex had was that they rigged the jar to make her look strong.
jordan holmes
Did the jar explode when she opened it up?
Like, did they hand it to her and she crushed it between her incredibly powerful Hulk hands?
dan friesen
It just opened.
Hey, I'm a 32-year-old man.
I'm in my prime.
I'm fairly strong.
Sometimes I can't open a jar of pickles.
I have to hit the rim with a knife in order to ease it open.
jordan holmes
You know what?
You get a towel, sometimes I find my fingers are a little slippery.
dan friesen
Amen.
So anyway, he doesn't prove anything, but he's like, I tricked him.
I tricked him into telling people I was right.
It's like, okay, you got us on the pickles.
jordan holmes
Again, another great line.
That's another t-shirt.
On the back, it says, you got us on the pickles.
dan friesen
I knew they'd take the bait on the pickles.
jordan holmes
You got us on the pickles.
unidentified
You've not proved any of your flagrant bullshit points.
dan friesen
But anyway.
jordan holmes
So is the point that he's making there that he is influencing the mainstream media to investigate...
The ridiculous claims that he makes, and he makes them sensational so that they will investigate, disprove some of the lies that he's telling, but get to the kernel of truth underneath it?
dan friesen
Somewhat.
jordan holmes
Is he false flagging the media?
dan friesen
Sort of.
This next clip talks a little bit more about it, how he sort of trolls the media.
And he does not make his point.
So anyway, this is about something he said about J-Lo recently.
jordan holmes
How did he say something about J-Lo recently?
Are you sure this isn't from the goddamn 90s?
What's happening?
dan friesen
She gave a speech at the Grammys about how in times like this, this is when artists go to work and this is when artists can be most impactful when we're dealing with power trying to crush the disenfranchised.
That sort of thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, because they crushed it in the fucking Vietnam War.
dan friesen
Sure.
Here we go.
alex jones
You should go be amongst the Somalis where women, literally, you don't even see them on the streets.
They are total slaves, total failed culture.
He didn't say beyond Thunderdome.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
He didn't say beyond Thunderdome.
I've never been angrier at Alex Jones in my life.
Beyond Road Warrior?
Fuck you, Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's unprofessional.
jordan holmes
That is poor showmanship.
alex jones
Absolute hell on earth.
Women are still sold on slave blocks.
They're still sold up on the big slave stages.
That's on record.
Look it up.
We'll do whole reports on it.
dan friesen
It's on record on Infowars.com.
jordan holmes
Oh, great.
But that's not...
as long as he's bringing attention to the fact that there are still a lot of women trafficking there's a lot of that shit going on and it's fucking horrifying agreed and you shouldn't be able to just minimize it by using it as your bullshit argument for that's a very very serious issue that is really fucking destructive yeah and he's using it as like a fucking talking point to fight against what?
J-Lo.
unidentified
J-Lo.
dan friesen
The culture war.
jordan holmes
Great.
Great.
Take her down.
dan friesen
What he says next is even worse.
alex jones
But then alt-right host thought it was okay to gang rape on Jennifer Bullock.
So see, the vibe and everybody else trying to manipulate people in the inner city said Alex Jones wants to rape J-Lo.
And they showed some really short clip of me saying...
She needs to get gang raped.
No, I said if she loves that and wants us to get gang raped and wants to bring that here and then defend it and cover it up like Europe has done in Sweden and everywhere else coming out in the news, then she should go there if gang raping's so great.
If she wants to bring the gang raping here, I'm clearly speaking out against rape.
I'm clearly saying it's wrong, it's bad, but I knew they'd take it and misrepresent it, and then I know we're bigger than they are in many cases, so those people will come here and find the truth of what I said, and they're further discredited.
That's how they operate.
Well, everyone knows we've been at the tip of the spear trying to fight Islam, abusing women, and the gang raping going on all over the world.
But we become, through their alchemy of baloney, the alchemy of BS, we become the gang rapers.
dan friesen
First of all, no one's saying that he's a gang raper.
jordan holmes
I don't think anybody...
Yeah, actually, did you look up anybody saying Alex Jones said he wants to gang rape Jennifer Lopez?
dan friesen
No, even on his evil boogeyman Media Matters for America, they don't say that.
jordan holmes
They don't say that.
dan friesen
No, they just say that Alex Jones suggests that J-Lo should be gang raped, which is what he said.
jordan holmes
It is pretty much what he said.
Although, I mean...
dan friesen
If you unpack it, what he is saying is like, if you love it so much, why don't you go over there and get...
Gang raped.
unidentified
If you love gang raped so much, why don't you marry it, huh?
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
And it's not suggesting that she should be or anything like that.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
And people who are saying that are taking him a little bit extremely.
jordan holmes
I do not like that because...
See, by exaggerating what he's actually saying, you're not dealing with what he's...
Or by exaggerating a little bit of what he's saying...
To make it sound more like this, you're not dealing with the damage that what he's actually saying is.
dan friesen
Well, when you try to take Alex and turn him into headlines, that's where it becomes difficult.
Because the reality is so much more fucked up.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
You can't just say, like, Alex hopes that J-Lo is gang raped.
jordan holmes
And the whole point of this is that when you do that, you dismiss him as a crazy person.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, like you see that headline and you go, oh, well, this is nonsense.
Nobody would ever listen to this.
This is going to be the thing that, you know, takes him down or gets rid of him.
How does he do that whole thing?
When what he's really saying is just lying about her and, oh, man, I hate him.
dan friesen
I hate him today.
Yeah, you're going to hate him so much more.
jordan holmes
Especially because of the Beyond Thunderdome thing.
dan friesen
That's terrible.
jordan holmes
It's terrible.
dan friesen
What he's going to say here in a little bit, substantially worse.
alex jones
Oh, God.
dan friesen
So anyway, before we get to the really, really terrible stuff, Alex has to talk about his financial situation.
jordan holmes
All right, good, good, yes.
dan friesen
So...
jordan holmes
Hobo Jones to the rescue!
alex jones
I want to explain to some of the new listeners how this works.
We didn't have sponsors that we had pull from us.
That's the normal thing, trying to go up to your sponsors or boycott you.
We had AdRoll as the exclusive advertising dealer of Google.
So Google didn't have the liability.
In my view, it's a front company of Google.
That's basically admitted in the trade publications.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that's probably true.
dan friesen
If it's admitted in the trade publications, that's not his opinion.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
So what is he actually saying?
Is he saying it's in the trade publications, or is it in his opinion?
Because it can't be both.
jordan holmes
What if...
dan friesen
In one sentence...
jordan holmes
In the trade publication, they quote Alex Jones as saying that.
dan friesen
That would be great.
jordan holmes
That would be an opinion.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
They came out on Monday and said, you no longer have a right to advertise in the internet market through Google.
You understand?
That's the thing.
I can't go.
Like, if I showed up at Dick's Sporting Goods, said I wanted to buy some golf clubs, I said, sorry, you're a conservative, or you're white, or you're black, or you're whatever.
You know, you're Jewish, you're whatever.
You can't buy golf clubs.
jordan holmes
You know what that sounds so eerily fucking similar to?
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
Say you're gay, and you want somebody to make you a fucking cake, and they won't make you a fucking cake because you're gay.
Do you know what that sounds like?
dan friesen
Well, to be fair, Alex kind of sides with that, that they should have made the cake.
unidentified
Oh, really?
dan friesen
Kind of, yeah.
His stance on it is murky.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But he seems to side on the side of, who gives a shit?
Make him a cake.
Or make him a cake and then give him the frosting.
They can put whatever they want on it.
You know, like if someone wants to put an offensive message on a cake, he's like, I would be concerned that it was a trap.
Or something like that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Trying to set me up.
jordan holmes
That would be his first concern, yes.
dan friesen
But I want to take a moment to lay out a couple of things that are bullshit here.
jordan holmes
But his personal thing aside, that is still the argument that...
Tons of his viewers are against those people having to make them a cake.
dan friesen
Yeah, because it encroaches on their values.
jordan holmes
It's free speech.
It's that whole thing.
The moment it then happens in their direction, oh, we're the victim.
It's because we're conservative.
It's because you're restricting our free speech.
unidentified
Bingo.
dan friesen
You nailed where I wanted to take this.
jordan holmes
It's fucking bullshit.
It's all fucking nonsense.
unidentified
You're children.
dan friesen
Alex describes himself as a libertarian.
He believes in libertarian principles.
And one of the main principles of libertarianism is...
Right.
If so they wish.
You know, in the marketplace, if you are a business that doesn't serve black people, everyone will be so offended by that that you won't be able to survive.
jordan holmes
Right.
That's your pretend little fantasy of that's how we actually get rid of racism is we freeze them out economically.
dan friesen
And now...
Libertarian values go by the wayside when an advertising company doesn't want to work with them.
jordan holmes
When it hurts you, boy, your values aren't anywhere near as meaningful as you having a fucking job.
dan friesen
You don't believe in the free market at all.
jordan holmes
And that is the thing that has crushed me with the whole political system for the past eight years is, as much as I loved Obama, he did expand into the executive powers.
unidentified
Very much so.
jordan holmes
And that's why we're in trouble here.
That's the big issue.
dan friesen
That's a big part of it.
jordan holmes
Hey, we're making this Muslim ban because we're afraid of Muslims.
If you do that, even if it works, even if it's legally justified, that still means that somewhere down the line, someone can do a Christian ban.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's within the realm of possibility.
dan friesen
Precedent set.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So if you're at all thinking about yourself, you should be against this bullshit because eventually that sword can be used towards you.
dan friesen
And that's not a slippery slope.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
That's just A to B thinking.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
Anyway, he has more thoughts about his situation and his economic plight, and I will poke more holes in it in a second.
alex jones
It's the same thing.
It's not that we even violated the terms.
It was milk toast ads, you know, ads for supplements and things.
They said, you are fake news.
You are involved in politics.
That's not allowed.
dan friesen
First of all, one of the supplements that he sells, DNA Force, they've in the past kind of insinuated that taking it will help you live to 120.
So the idea that it's just milk toast ads isn't really real.
Like, they do advertise their products to have effects they can't possibly have.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So that's first of all.
Second of all, He's complaining that they say that they're fake news.
Listen to the beginning of this episode.
We have documented at least eight times that he's completely misrepresented the truth.
jordan holmes
Meaning told fake news.
dan friesen
Yes.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So he doesn't have a leg to stand on there.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
All of these stories, everything he brings up, if you look at it, is full of shit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Anyway.
alex jones
Well, but then they take political advertising.
They're saying someone in the federal...
Election Commission said Alex Jones isn't allowed to operate.
Well, give me the letter.
Let me have my day in court.
Let me know who to sue.
Well, you won't tell me, so I know who I got to.
jordan holmes
That's not true at all.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You can't do that.
dan friesen
The FEC absolutely isn't involved.
But then, secondarily, I hope he does sue because he will lose so fucking fast.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
If he did sue, then it would be public.
It would be legal to say that he is a giant liar.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
He's never gonna sue.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
He is so open to all kinds of stuff coming out to light.
alex jones
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
If he sued, like, the countersuits that could be filed would be insane.
jordan holmes
Oh, man, that 3.3 million he lost would be nothing compared to the billions of lies that he's told over the years.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, and I can imagine, like, a class-action lawsuit being filed against him by people who have taken super male vitality and shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah, God, that would be beautiful.
dan friesen
Yeah, so anyway.
alex jones
That's more stuff I gotta do, but okay.
I'm gonna sit there and just hope it goes away, Adroll.
The word is everybody else is scared.
A bunch of other people got banned, but they're trying to work it out with Adroll.
And what can we do, Adroll?
How can we kiss your butt, Adroll?
How can we...
No, no.
You want to rack a tear on us, in my opinion, in my view, what this appears to be?
Fine.
You want litigation?
I guess we'll have to do it.
But here's the issue.
We made $3.3 million last year to fund the operation.
Not profit, but money that made to fund our operation.
Advertising our products outside of our own sphere and show.
Okay, because we want to reach other people.
That's what we're doing.
And they came in and they said, you can't do that anymore after three years, almost three years.
And so now I'm sitting here looking at this happening and we projected the graph because it takes time to build these up and figure out where to advertise and how it works.
And a lot of work went into this and a lot of money we paid them.
jordan holmes
Like accounting.
alex jones
They pull the rug up after a three-year relationship and say bye-bye.
And then put a false name on us and claim we don't exist and we're bad, disreputable people with no proof.
dan friesen
We have proof.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This episode is proof.
jordan holmes
It's exactly proof.
dan friesen
I'm not saying he's a bad person.
He might privately be an awesome person.
jordan holmes
Also, privately behind the scenes.
He is weeping on his knees at Adroll going like, please, how do we get our money back?
I will do anything for you.
unidentified
You want me to suck your dick?
dan friesen
I'll suck your dick.
But then publicly trying to cuck out all these other places.
You guys are just bowing down to Adroll.
We're going to fight.
There's literally no way he's going to sue.
jordan holmes
No chance he's going to fight back.
dan friesen
If he has a decent lawyer, they will tell him, do not do this.
jordan holmes
He does not have a decent lawyer.
dan friesen
Well, that's true.
jordan holmes
We've heard his lawyers in the past.
dan friesen
His lawyer is very unaware of his goings-on.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But, like, any legal person would be like, oh, please, don't do this.
You will put yourself in the hopper.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You are going to be screwed.
And not because Google is some shadowy entity that's going to destroy him, but because his entire operation is built on a house of lies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's obviously some shady shit going on.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And if he sues them...
jordan holmes
Ooh, just the discovery portion of that.
Just them going through all of his files.
dan friesen
Can you imagine if he does sue them and it turns into a long, protracted legal battle?
What we will end up having to cover will be spectacular.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm already jerking off to the possibility right now.
dan friesen
We're policy wonks, so we will read all of the litigation, all of the briefs.
jordan holmes
Although, I'm going to be honest, that sounds like pedophilia, bro.
dan friesen
Yeah, bro.
alex jones
That's libelous, that's slander, that's defamation.
dan friesen
It's not.
alex jones
I mean, the Washington Post had to pull their big list.
Everybody's using it two months ago.
Admitting, they don't know where they got it.
Well, it was just made up and we know by who?
Democratic Party.
So the Democratic Party wants to ban political voices or just free speech in this country or free speech groups who have separate businesses that fund their speech.
You're going to discriminate against that.
I mean, you are in so much trouble politically, culturally, you name it.
Ad roll.
dan friesen
They're not.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Nope.
unidentified
None.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I mean, it's not.
It's not.
Attacking free speech in any way.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
It is very legal.
jordan holmes
Super legal.
It's one of the most legal things that you can do as a business is to fire somebody based on reasonable regulation.
dan friesen
Yeah, and your terms of service.
Anyway, also, Alex goes on to talk about money a little bit more.
And after this, we're going to get into the part of the show that is...
Fucking awful.
jordan holmes
Then we're going to the darkness.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Alright, so this is our final gasp of air before we go underneath and drown.
We're going to drown, aren't we?
dan friesen
Breathe in this money bullshit and then we're going under.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
alex jones
But then we brought in about a million for the last four days.
That's gross though.
We discount our products so much that that's only $500,000.
And I'm not bitching.
That's great.
Thank you, audience.
It's wonderful.
Most other shows couldn't do anything like that.
dan friesen
I agree that a lot of shows couldn't do that, but that is a fucking crazy discount.
jordan holmes
That is a crazy discount.
dan friesen
They're taking a bath on these pills.
That's nuts.
jordan holmes
I don't know.
That's what?
33%?
No, they said a million five.
unidentified
A million four.
jordan holmes
Oh, did he say a million four?
dan friesen
And they brought in 500,000, so that's a third.
jordan holmes
So his profit margin...
Ooh, no, that's not good.
He's got to work on that.
Also, I feel like that he's just putting out all of his business right now.
Just everything.
Just like, hey, this is how much we're marking up our product by.
Like, wait, what?
dan friesen
You know what else, too?
A couple of these next clips that we're going to play, the ones that don't anger me so much.
He lets some stuff slip that he really shouldn't be talking about.
So that's exciting.
And this is another one of them.
Talking specifics about your finances, you really shouldn't be doing that.
jordan holmes
He might as well just be putting his social security number out there.
unidentified
Might as well.
jordan holmes
Hey, I'm 354-9999.
unidentified
Go ahead.
jordan holmes
Look me up.
I don't even care.
dan friesen
Fuck it.
alex jones
They're high quality.
You get them.
Thank you for the support.
So it's a victory.
I've got to make this up with other fundraisers over the next year.
The money we made last year from it's budgeted.
It happens to be just about the extra money we had for expansion.
So it's a chilling effect of our free speech and of what we're trying to do.
Not letting us enter the market.
Just like for a decade we fought this.
We don't sell guns, but we fought it.
jordan holmes
Sell guns now.
alex jones
You've got gun dealers, major gun shops, then sporting goods stores.
First it was little small gun dealers.
Mom and pop outfits, you know, out of little storefronts.
They banned those in most magazines.
TV ads, radio ads, did it in a lot of places.
Newspapers all got together and banned those.
That was about 15, 20 years ago.
Everybody remembers that.
And then next, it was sporting goods stores.
And then they just said, no guns advertised, period, anywhere.
Okay?
Now, some magazines would say, oh, we'll take an insert and still do it and get around that because people file lawsuits.
So they're blocking your access to the market.
It's racketeering.
It's like blocking little black kids from going into the school in Alabama or places like Arkansas in 1959.
Same deal.
Same deal.
You're saying you're not allowed in this restaurant.
You're not allowed at this train station.
You don't get service at this hotel.
Get out of here.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
Not that all your ads violated rules.
You, your website is political and you're not allowed to make money.
Go in a corner and die.
dan friesen
So, one thing that's 100%...
jordan holmes
I would put him in a box.
If I was going to tell you to go somewhere and die...
dan friesen
Box?
jordan holmes
Box!
Underground, maybe.
dan friesen
One thing that's really important to recognize here is that he's making one of the...
Like, he's the master of non...
Metaphors.
jordan holmes
Or analogies.
dan friesen
Because he's saying that gun shops can't advertise, or whatever, which I support.
But then he doesn't talk about how cigarette companies can't advertise.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, and that's the correct analogy.
dan friesen
Right, but then he goes to black kids not being able to go to school.
Now here's the problem with that.
jordan holmes
Well, because black kids being allowed to go to school causes cancer.
We all know that.
dan friesen
Well, here's the problem with this.
The stuff about guns being able to advertise is business-related.
Private.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Schools not allowing black kids in is public institutions.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
They're very different.
jordan holmes
Not for long.
Probably.
You're underestimating the quickness with which everything will be a private business.
dan friesen
Philosophically and very sincerely, they're different.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
The day will come when they will be intertwined.
jordan holmes
I mean, just from tax purposes.
Let's just stop right there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
For tax purposes, they are different.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
But he doesn't recognize that and he wants to make false equivalences.
And I don't know, man.
jordan holmes
I just don't like him comparing himself to any kind of civil rights activist.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
At all.
dan friesen
Or just playing a victim.
It's so sad.
jordan holmes
He's always playing the victim.
dan friesen
It's so sad, though.
jordan holmes
It is pathetic.
dan friesen
It's a bummer.
And here we go.
jordan holmes
Oh, let's dive.
Down, down into the deep...
Dark waters of misery.
dan friesen
If you want to sympathize with Alex for even a second, don't.
Because this next clip exists, and I will call this clip one of the worst things I've ever heard in my life.
jordan holmes
You have all been freed of empathy for Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Put down the mic, because you need to hear this all the way through, and here we go.
jordan holmes
Alright.
alex jones
Okay.
Wow.
I've got to focus and be a good boy, and I'm going to do it because I've got a guest coming up at the bottom of the hour.
I'm going to come in and boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, play a bunch of clips and get to a bunch of analysis.
But right now, we already had this live.
David already covered it.
Doing a great job.
I want to play this clip of Trump saying, our enemy's the media.
We're at war.
And it's so true.
We're always supposed to sit there and let them dictate and be our enemies and say literally, let adult men come in the shower with your daughter or you're hateful.
That is promoting pedophilia.
But they play these games with the terms.
NAMBLA basically runs the UN, folks.
And they're so scared they're getting caught now that they're trying to normalize it and say, well, you're not just transgender.
You're not just this.
No, you like kids.
Or you identify as a kid when you're a 50-year-old pig-like man.
So somebody's 8-year-old daughter is okay.
Well, then my.357 Magnum and the bullets that come out of it identify with your head.
These bullets identify as your brain tissue.
Is that okay, too?
You wanna go, you know, with your ding-dongs hanging out with little girls?
Is it okay if Smith& Wesson identifies as your brain tissue?
I mean, I'm just asking.
The headline will be, Jones threatens to kill transgenders.
I didn't say that.
I said they used the whole transgender thing to say, let men come in showers with little girls or you're not tolerant.
That's pedophilia what's being pushed.
I don't care who says it or if it's some asshole on CNN.
Excuse me, I've never used a lot of profanity on air.
In fact, this is a Christian show and I apologize and I'm going to stop it.
But I got to tell you, there aren't names or words strong enough to describe people like that.
I'm going to play that clip too.
But let's play somebody who's actually trying to get jobs and turn our energy back on and bring us together.
Someone who isn't up there telling us the number one issue is grown men with little girls in showers.
Because if little girls don't like seeing men's penises, they're bad people.
These are quotes, okay?
That's how weak-minded they think we are.
Yes, CNN.
I happen to have a 12-year-old daughter.
Let me immediately make sure that...
I will, no doubt, I catch a grown man in the shower with one of my daughters, I will beat your brains out with my bare hands.
Guaranteed.
Oh my god, so hateful!
That's right!
You can't rape little girls!
And you can't bring the frickin' Islamist in here that's a religion to rape and enslave women!
I am sick of your crap!
dan friesen
Boy, oh boy.
Boy, oh boy.
There's so much there.
And, uh, boy.
The first thing that we need to deal with is the...
False comparison between trans people and pedophiles.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's number one.
jordan holmes
Fuck him.
dan friesen
Believing that trans people want to shower with your little daughter is so fucking full of shit.
jordan holmes
Fuck you.
dan friesen
Every trans person that I know, and I do know a number, and they're all wonderful people.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That I've met.
Sure, they're probably some bad people, but not the majority.
jordan holmes
You know what they are?
They're people.
Exactly.
dan friesen
There's good people, bad people.
jordan holmes
You ever met people?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Hey, you know how you don't want to go and fuck a little girl in a shower?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, neither do they.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And you know what else?
They don't want to shower with anybody.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
A lot of them feel very uncomfortable in their bodies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And they don't want to be around other people.
It's not about, like, throwing your dick around.
jordan holmes
Do you know what?
dan friesen
The people who want to do that are pedophiles.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that's not who the trans people are, you motherfucker.
So he makes that false comparison.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then is like, What if my bullets identify with your brain?
unidentified
Which is literally threatening to murder people.
Yeah.
dan friesen
He does that, and then he's like, oh, people are going to say that Alex Jones wants to murder trans people.
jordan holmes
He did!
dan friesen
That's what he said.
jordan holmes
That's what he said!
dan friesen
Because he doesn't understand the disconnect between what trans people are and someone who wants to hurt people.
He thinks that they're the exact same.
He thinks the Venn diagram is a circle, and it's not.
So he's like, hey.
Catch you in the shower with my daughter, I'll kill you.
Now, I agree with him that if someone was wagging his dick at his daughter, he's right to be angry about that.
But that's not the issue.
unidentified
That's not what anybody wants.
jordan holmes
The one thing that I find revealing is...
He was talking about how...
A fat pig, a 50-year-old fat pig who identifies as a child can hang out with your child.
And I thought, that's what you are, Alex Jones.
dan friesen
You still talk about how great you were at six.
jordan holmes
And you sound an awful lot like a child.
dan friesen
Your understanding of the world is very childlike.
jordan holmes
I think Alex Jones identifies as a 50-year-old fat pig fucking child.
dan friesen
Let's not put, like, words in his mouth.
That's Alex Jones shit.
jordan holmes
You're right.
dan friesen
Let's not play that game.
jordan holmes
You're right.
Let's just hope he gets hit by a truck.
dan friesen
No, let's hope more financial hardships come to him.
Let's hope he sues them and gets his ass handed to him in court.
unidentified
Fucking...
dan friesen
Let's hope for all the success he thinks he deserves.
jordan holmes
I mean, does he genuinely think that every single trans person is just doing this to trick us into letting them into bathrooms?
dan friesen
I think he thinks at least a large enough percent of them are that it merits discussion.
jordan holmes
But that can't be real.
No reasonable person.
dan friesen
Well, you use the word reasonable.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So we're...
Because to me, it angers me if he's misrepresenting this as an arm of trying to defend Trump's nonsense.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So if he's lying about this in order to give Trump...
Legitimacy for Trump's insanity.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Or the North Carolina insanity.
dan friesen
And repealing protections for trans students.
jordan holmes
If he's lying in order to kind of support this, then that's fucking awful.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's truly, truly deceptive and miserable and hurtful.
Or...
If he's telling the truth about believing this shit, I don't know if I'm more or less angry.
dan friesen
Neither is good.
jordan holmes
Because if he's telling the truth, then that kind of suggests that you could convince him.
You could come up to him and just, hey, let's talk to trans people.
dan friesen
No, you couldn't.
jordan holmes
How about you and I go to...
dan friesen
You couldn't because he'd just start yelling at you.
jordan holmes
No, I mean, I'm talking literally like he and I go to a therapy meeting.
Just go to a...
And these are so important.
They used to be fucking underground.
This is how important it is that trans people have had to, like, go into fucking secret places to talk to other trans people because they've been hunted and hated for so fucking long.
dan friesen
Well, now, Alex's argument would be, like, that's because it's a pedophile then.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
unidentified
But take him to one of them.
jordan holmes
Listen to those stories.
He's a man who, he loves a good narrative.
If he actually listened to these stories, then if he's telling the truth about believing this, that suggests there's some sort of redemption possible.
Because once he finds out these are people, then he'll grow and become a better person.
unidentified
But if he's fucking lying about it.
jordan holmes
I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.
dan friesen
Like, I don't think he's fully aware.
But I think he knows that what he's saying is oversimplifying things and just trying to rile people up.
I think he's aware of that.
I don't think him knowing the truth would help.
jordan holmes
You don't think so?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I mean, well...
Because the truth is readily available.
Yeah, I guess him knowing the truth...
Well, you know, it is readily available.
dan friesen
He gets all of his news from his own website.
jordan holmes
That's true.
But that's what I'm saying.
Yes, the truth is readily available, but it's not in human form to him.
He doesn't know any trans people.
He doesn't meet any trans people.
No.
It's like all of the rural areas hate Black Lives Matter, hate all of these things.
But if they actually just went to one of these places and just met these people and added them to their community instantly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They would suddenly understand something very different.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But he could never do that.
jordan holmes
And I don't...
dan friesen
He could never do that.
It's too threatening to his financial position.
jordan holmes
Well, exactly.
So then he would just go from being an evil fuck to a...
Demagogic, evil, unrepentant.
dan friesen
Also, how marketable is it to be reasonable?
It's not.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, our downloads are not that high.
alex jones
They're great, though.
dan friesen
And thank you all, everybody.
We appreciate it so much.
But also, let's get this horrible taste out of our mouth.
He thinks he's not being hateful.
jordan holmes
He threatened to kill fucking...
dan friesen
He thinks he's not being hateful.
He is.
He thinks he's not saying he wants to kill trans people.
jordan holmes
He is.
dan friesen
He is.
So now let's get the taste out of our mouth with him accidentally talking a little too much about him talking to Trump.
alex jones
And that's why it's so sad to see the weak-minded that still hate Trump.
But if you actually study what he's doing, it's all very fair.
It's very historical.
It's very measured.
He's so good that actually it makes me deep down suspect myself because my discernment says he's solid gold.
I was saying that two years ago.
I said, my gut tells me he's great.
But I just said, I can't believe it.
And now it's just like, what?
It's not because he calls me sometimes on the telephone.
I put out articles.
I put out stories.
I say he doesn't get a lot of his ideas from me.
We're just on the same page.
You know, Bannon, I know, has listened over the years.
And Breitbart's written about that.
But we're promoting the same Americana.
I listen to his ideas.
He listens to mine.
I mean, yeah, we're all prominent leaders.
Drudge's ideas get listened to.
We're all prominent leaders in promoting Americana and freedom, but it's not like we all look at a 57 Chevy that's midnight blue and white.
I saw one today, unbelievable, driving into work.
And it made me think, it's like 20 people could look at that and say, that's a beautiful piece of art right there.
So if Trump says, look at that 57 Chevy, isn't it beautiful?
Isn't it cool looking?
And I say, absolutely.
It's not like he's telling me what to think or I'm telling him what to think.
We're like, wouldn't it be nice if we had Clean burning coal, which we have, and thousands of plants around the country, and almost a thousand they shut down, and that's why most people won't come here, they tell Trump, because our electricity is fine.
dan friesen
Also, so clean, like, truly clean coal doesn't exist in the way.
jordan holmes
It does not exist.
dan friesen
But then also, no, no, the lie right there at the end, we're going to get to him talking more about the coal in a second, but the lie there is that...
He's like, oh, everyone says that our electricity costs are too high.
That's why they won't come here.
Bitch, I thought it was taxes.
What is it?
Get your narrative straight about why businesses don't want to be here.
jordan holmes
Also, learn about rolling blackouts and how it's the actual companies who are fucking...
Enron.
Anyways, I'm angry.
I'm angry.
No, no, no.
Here's the thing that I did want to talk about.
alex jones
Oh, wow.
jordan holmes
The thing I did want to talk about.
I think he's a star fucker.
dan friesen
Big time.
jordan holmes
I think that's maybe our real win here with Alex Jones.
dan friesen
He's super good friends with Charlie Sheen.
jordan holmes
I knew Trump was a good guy.
It's not just because he calls me sometimes.
He calls me sometimes.
The Russian television thing.
Oh, I hate the Russians.
And then they invite him on TV and give him a little ball tickle.
And he fucking loves the Russians now.
dan friesen
I bet if we're successful and we get really huge and we one day are like...
Alex Jones is so fucking awesome.
jordan holmes
He would love us!
dan friesen
He would come on the show.
jordan holmes
If the New York Times piece, have we considered the Grinch angle?
dan friesen
Oh my god.
jordan holmes
Have we considered...
dan friesen
His shoes are just too tight?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
All right.
New York Times does not write an article taking down Alex Jones' fake news.
Instead, what they do...
Is praise his showmanship.
Ignore the content altogether.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
Does he suddenly like the New York Times?
dan friesen
I think he might.
jordan holmes
I think he would.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And if he did that...
Oh, man.
Is that how we cure ourselves of Alex Jones?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Are we literally in a world where if love conquered all, we'd be fine?
dan friesen
It doesn't work that way with him.
Oh, okay.
jordan holmes
I had hope just for a second there.
dan friesen
On this show, he does do a half-hour interview with Joy Via.
Who was that lady who wore a Make America Great Again dress to the Grammys.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
And her record sales went up after that.
And so he does a half hour interview with her about how great Trump is.
jordan holmes
Fuck everybody.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, hold on.
This gets good.
jordan holmes
What's her album sound like?
dan friesen
I have no idea.
jordan holmes
Maybe it's good.
alex jones
Twice as cheap in Mexico, on average.
It's three times cheaper in China.
You know, we might want to actually have a coal plant here.
Plus, ours are cleaner than theirs.
I agree with Trump on that.
He agrees with me.
He's following Alex on coal.
He's following Alex on guns.
He's following Alex on borders.
He's following Alex on the terms he uses in enemy media.
jordan holmes
Are these InfoWars?
alex jones
And quite frankly, I have.
I thought back in one of my conversations with Trump.
I said, they are your enemy, and they will never stop until you're destroyed, and they will never, never back off, and they will never make deals, and Hillary's going to double back on her deal, and she is not going to ever stop trying to set you up.
They've got fifth columns inside.
They're going to block your agenda 100%.
Very interesting, Alex.
Hold on one moment.
Thomas Bayless.
Yeah, yeah, we think that's real interesting.
Tell me more about that.
Sure, I'll tell the media what we talked about.
We talked about how you are the enemy.
So if I take credit for one thing, it's introducing the term enemy media because you are the enemy.
And we had a show two years ago, several.
In fact, we found the clip.
I tweeted it out last week where the listeners, we all had two hours of phone calls on what...
Is the name of the media.
The scum media.
The whore media.
The sellout media.
The fake stream media.
The sewer stream media.
The dinosaur media.
One of my terms.
unidentified
Prestitutes.
alex jones
And I said, you know what?
We got to find all those clips to put them together.
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
But it isn't because Trump was under my mind control and it's an easily influenced person.
He didn't even comment when I kept saying, they're the enemy.
They're the enemy.
He goes, yes, very interesting.
Wow!
And it's not, it's that he's so good that he's so dialed in and that now it's being said by the President of the United States annihilating scum that's on CNN saying full-grown men should be with little girls in showers.
jordan holmes
I'm going to play that clip in a minute.
alex jones
I mean, of course it's the damn enemy.
I mean, it's the screwball, control freak, crazy people enemy.
dan friesen
So he keeps saying he's going to play that clip.
Throughout the three hours I listen to, he never plays the clip.
jordan holmes
Even in his recollection of the greatest moments of his life, Trump is like, yeah, sure.
Interesting.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
I gotta go.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He does not realize that he's getting blown off, does he?
dan friesen
I don't know if he does, but also, you're telling too much here.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because if you do talk to Trump a bunch...
I imagine he doesn't want you saying these things.
If I were the president, I wouldn't like this.
I would say, this guy lacks decorum.
jordan holmes
I'm saying he's getting polonium poisoned.
dan friesen
This guy is not discreet.
jordan holmes
No.
He's a bad prostitute at best.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I mean, maybe these calls happened.
If they did, again, I think.
He's loose-lipping.
jordan holmes
They're way more believable now that I know Trump is like, I gotta put you on hold here for a second.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Now I'm like, eh, maybe he does get a lot of calls from Trump.
dan friesen
Now listen, the media is your enemy.
Hillary's gonna try and take you down.
Interesting.
unidentified
Interesting.
dan friesen
I'll be right back.
I'm gonna go try and fuck my daughter.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I gotta get out of here.
I got a daughter to fuck.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, I got a man in my...
Little other daughter's bathroom.
Actually, Trump is the man in his own daughter's bathroom.
dan friesen
He certainly creeped in on the Miss Teen USA locker room.
jordan holmes
He's a fucking creep.
dan friesen
So maybe we should be talking about that, Alex, you dumb fuck.
jordan holmes
Hey, Alex, you know that guy that you're afraid of being in a small girl's locker room?
The president is that guy!
dan friesen
He's too good.
jordan holmes
He's not!
dan friesen
He's so good.
jordan holmes
He is solid gold, though.
I think he actually is physically solid gold at this point.
dan friesen
So this next clip, Alex talks about where is all the money in the world going?
jordan holmes
That's a really good question.
alex jones
Almost all the wealth goes to a fraction of 1%, and then no one even knows what they're building because most of the yachts and houses and real estate doesn't even add up to one-tenth of it.
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
I'll tell you what they're building.
Underground bases and some freaked out stuff.
jordan holmes
Ah, you were so close.
alex jones
In a giant race to get immortality, wouldn't you, if you were some inbred globalist that didn't care about anybody and has no morals and sees everybody as slaves and owns slave factories in China like Apple?
Apple's building some spaceship, you know, thing, you know, new campus, and that's just a metaphor for what they're already building for themselves.
Sucking humanity's blood, our ingenuity, our work, all the third worlds, all into this.
Hidden thing they're constructing.
jordan holmes
So he's saying that a real building they're building is just a metaphor for the metaphorical building they're building?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That is...
If that is true, that's pretty clever.
That makes me giggle a little bit.
I'm on their side.
If I was going to build a building, it would definitely be a metaphor for another building I'm building.
dan friesen
So fucking stupid.
It's insanely stupid.
jordan holmes
I wish he wasn't...
Right on a thing and then immediately so wrong on the thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's right.
There's so much wealth, and they're not using it to build stuff.
They just have a computer number that goes higher, like some sort of weird...
dan friesen
Sure, and a lot of it is just to secure generational wealth.
That is what it is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're definitely going after the estate tax hard.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's dynasty building, essentially.
It's not that they want to build underground bases and get off the planet.
Well, maybe some do, but at the same time, most people just want to create...
Like, old money.
jordan holmes
I totally would want to get off Earth, though.
If I was a billionaire, that's all I would be spending my money on.
dan friesen
Jesus, now.
jordan holmes
Why are they not doing that?
Are they crazy?
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Have we considered maybe they're stupid?
dan friesen
Or Alex is right, but wrong about the interpretation.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If you're a billionaire, you should want to get off the planet.
unidentified
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
We're wrecking this thing.
We're destroying it.
Well, actually...
You're destroying it, billionaire!
dan friesen
Yeah, that's fair.
jordan holmes
If you're a billionaire, you're actively one of the people trying to destroy it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So you should be building an off-world space so you can destroy it from a distance.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That makes sense to me.
dan friesen
Sure.
So this next clip is pretty homosexual.
jordan holmes
We should be hired by billionaires to give them...
Magic advice?
I think that's what we're talking about.
dan friesen
We will work and give you magic advice for Boone's Farm.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That is our policy.
This next clip is about how the media lies, and it also drifts into homophobia.
alex jones
InfoWars is ready to take action.
We're changing the world.
I'm going to skip this break.
I'm going to stop skipping breaks in a few weeks.
I just, right now, who knows if the show will even exist soon.
jordan holmes
No, he won't.
alex jones
And I'm not just saying that to scare people.
They could kill me tomorrow.
They could come after you tomorrow.
We could all die in a car wreck tomorrow.
The point is...
jordan holmes
Ooh, he's getting existential.
He's that broke.
alex jones
The sun could explode next week.
Hobo Jones.
New York Times headline, Jones says the sun will explode next week.
Jones is anti-gay.
unidentified
Well...
alex jones
I'm not anti-gay.
jordan holmes
Meh.
alex jones
I'm anti-gay.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
That's what they do on the Colbert Show, all of it.
I mean, it's just, they edit things, like Trump said.
I came out and I said, the fake media is the enemy.
And they cut out, fake.
They cut to, media is the enemy.
And they did that.
And it's like, it makes you sick when they sit there, in between Cuomo, saying your young daughter should have grown men in the showers with her.
jordan holmes
How many times has he repeated that?
alex jones
I'm going to play that clip coming up.
50. And you're just sitting there while they assault your sanity, telling you you're bad, you're evil.
And then you're watching Colbert and he's got me going, I'm anti-gay.
jordan holmes
You are.
alex jones
And I make the joke, I'm like, yeah, two-thirds of the frogs are gay in Houston.
And they play this stuff, but my audience knows when I'm being serious, I'm being serious.
jordan holmes
Now, hasn't he spent so much time blurring the lines between when he's serious and when he's not serious just so he can get away with so much bullshit?
dan friesen
This introduces a new segment.
jordan holmes
Oh, you teased it the last show!
dan friesen
This is actually not even that segment.
jordan holmes
What the fuck are you doing then?
dan friesen
We have another segment that'll come.
This is a segment where we walk down history and see why Alex Jones is full of shit.
When he says that my audience knows when I'm joking, I have definitive proof that he is a monstrous fucking liar.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Now, consider these two clips about Michelle Obama being a...
A man.
jordan holmes
We're actually doing the this is your life situation here.
Are we going to bring in any...
dan friesen
I'm Mick Foley.
jordan holmes
Are we bringing in any fancy guests?
Are we bringing in memories?
Oh man, who's the guy who just had a reconciliation with him?
dan friesen
With Mick Foley?
jordan holmes
No, not Mick Foley.
With Alex Jones.
He was on last week.
dan friesen
Oh, Mark Dice?
jordan holmes
Mark Dice Clay.
Yeah.
Is he part of it?
dan friesen
He doesn't play into this.
But here are a couple clips of Alex Jones arguing that Michelle Obama is a man.
jordan holmes
Alright.
alex jones
By the way, this is a side issue.
I've always thought Michelle Obama looked like something was wrong with her.
They talk about how beautiful she is.
She looks profanely scary and monstrous to me.
jordan holmes
Fuck you.
alex jones
And she always wears these weird fluffy things around her waist.
And her shoulders are wide enough to put three men's heads on.
And of course you know the classic thing of a male.
You could have three heads on a male's shoulders.
What?
And only another head on a woman's shoulder, or one half of a head on each side.
That's a well-known thing in anatomy.
What?
And I saw an online video that I may air today, and we may look into this, talking about Michelle Obama looking like a man, and how they only released photos of her with her hands up, covering her shoulders, or her turned at an angle.
And I started looking at it with Joan Rivers saying she's a transvestite.
And I'd been hearing this for years, and I thought, come on.
I know Obama was raised by a transvestite and the rest of it, and I'm not getting into bashing people.
That's not my cup of tea.
jordan holmes
It is.
alex jones
But I started to really, last night, look at videos of this and look at photos of her in the official White House photo, and she looks like an NBA sinner.
I mean, she looks more like Shaquille O 'Neal than a black woman.
And knowing that little weirdness, and that we don't even know who Billy is and his social security numbers, don't even know.
jordan holmes
Racist!
alex jones
And then his dad, clearly, we sell the documentary, Dreams of My Real Father, and it's him with the famous pornographer who lived in Hawaii, who his grandfather was best buddies with, and who Obama would stay the summers with.
A famous communist pornographer.
And you look at the guy, it's Obama's dad.
So the whole Kenya thing with her saying, my husband's from Kenya, we visited his place of birth in multiple videos.
dan friesen
That's a lie.
But let's skip off this.
jordan holmes
You know what?
dan friesen
That's a lie.
jordan holmes
Let's just attack the lie.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
I don't think there's anything wrong with being a communist pornographer.
You know what?
I'm going to go on record as saying, again, if you want to be a dog.
Be nice to you.
If you're a communist pornographer, as long as you're doing within the legal limits, go for it.
dan friesen
Also, that whole thing about that guy being his dad.
jordan holmes
But if you want to be a communist pornographer of dogs, I'm not cool with that.
dan friesen
That documentary I've watched, The Dreams of My Real Father, and it's so full of shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course it is.
dan friesen
But also that lie at the end there is based on a clip of Michelle saying, she was talking about HIV testing.
And when they went abroad, they publicly took an HIV test.
jordan holmes
Yes.
No, we talked about that one, too.
Exactly.
And she said, it's good to go to the homeland or whatever.
dan friesen
Obama's homeland.
jordan holmes
Obama's homeland.
It's just total shit.
Can we just fucking get into the fact that Michelle is...
dan friesen
We can't yet.
unidentified
We can't yet.
jordan holmes
Wait.
dan friesen
Wait.
I'm trying to prove a bigger point.
jordan holmes
I know, but I want to hit the smaller one really hard.
dan friesen
Nope.
Wait for it.
Here's another clip.
jordan holmes
Like a hero.
dan friesen
Here's another clip of Alex talking about Michelle Obama being a man.
jordan holmes
Fuck you.
alex jones
Well, Joan Rivers talked about it in the last few days, and it's a big international news story.
The question is, who is Michelle Obama?
Is she really a woman?
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
Is she a man?
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
Especially when every time I look at Michelle or Michael Obama, No!
Every time I look at them, something doesn't look right.
She doesn't look like any black woman or any woman I've ever known.
She's got shoulders that are wider than a man's, which physiologically doesn't happen.
Again, you can put three heads on a man's shoulders and only two heads on a woman's shoulders.
That's a known anatomy.
And then women generally have wider hips than men do.
You look at her arms and the rest of it, when she's standing straight on, she looks like no woman I have ever seen, except for people who have had different chromosomal disorders who choose to be a woman.
And I've got the statistics and the numbers right here in front of me.
We're seeing more and more of these chromosomal disorders because of all the toxic waste and GMO that's been introduced.
One of them is the Klinefelter syndrome, or the XXY.
Where you basically are part female, part male.
jordan holmes
Can we stop?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Can we just stop that?
dan friesen
Now, listen to this.
jordan holmes
Can we just never...
dan friesen
Now, those seemed very serious.
He was making arguments.
He was referring to medical conditions.
He implied that he'd talked to doctors about this.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
That was not a joke.
dan friesen
Now...
jordan holmes
That was very much very sincere.
dan friesen
Now, listen to this clip.
alex jones
I want you to realize I'm not making this stuff up.
I shouldn't even quasi-joke around about Michelle being a tranny.
That was wrong.
Not that they even attack me for it.
It injustifies the means.
I just get real cynical in a bad mood sometimes and make sick jokes out of things.
dan friesen
Fuck you.
jordan holmes
Fuck.
dan friesen
Do you recognize what that is right there?
jordan holmes
Fuck you.
That's a non-apology apology.
dan friesen
Right, but he's arguing.
I'm making jokes.
Those two clips that we played.
Are not jokes.
jordan holmes
What is a quasi-joke?
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's like semi-formal.
jordan holmes
Give me any situation where a quasi-joke makes sense.
Or just as a thing to say.
dan friesen
I legitimately can't.
jordan holmes
It's a half-joke.
It's an approximation of a joke.
dan friesen
That's what the word would imply.
Right.
jordan holmes
But what would that be?
dan friesen
It's not that.
jordan holmes
Is that like knock-knock and then you just stop talking?
dan friesen
That's just alt jokes.
jordan holmes
Is he the Janine Garofalo of his time?
dan friesen
He doesn't know how to read.
jordan holmes
He does not know how to read.
He definitely doesn't have notes that he brings up on stage.
dan friesen
So when he is saying that people are falsely attacking him and the stuff about turning frogs gay...
Like, my audience knows when I'm joking.
jordan holmes
Nobody.
dan friesen
There is a clear example of him not joking, and then him claiming later, I was joking.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, you can't do that.
That's, again, again, again, fucking, uh, locker room talk.
Locker room talk.
I was joking.
It's no big deal.
Everybody talks like that whenever they, fuck you.
You meant that.
dan friesen
This segment has been called, You're Busted.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
No!
You named it and everything?
dan friesen
I just did.
Jones, you busted.
jordan holmes
All right, all right.
You contradicted yourself.
I don't support that.
I don't support that name.
I don't support that.
dan friesen
I don't either.
jordan holmes
You part?
unidentified
You busted.
jordan holmes
No, thank you.
dan friesen
Hey, check your baggage.
There's some busting in there.
jordan holmes
No, we're definitely not Jerry Springer.
unidentified
So, we get it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He says horrible, horrible things.
And then sometimes when he realizes, oh, I've gone too far.
Nah, it was a joke.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No.
dan friesen
Coward.
jordan holmes
No.
Coward.
That was racist, sexist.
It was...
dan friesen
Transphobic?
jordan holmes
Transphobic.
Like, those are all very real things.
And any time, any time he ever says, oh, I'm not a racist.
Or, oh, I don't hate gay people.
Or, oh, I'm not transphobic.
I'm just afraid of all of this.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No.
You are those things.
dan friesen
Yep.
100%.
jordan holmes
You did all of those...
On the First Lady.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Dead to rights.
jordan holmes
So you have no, there's no, like, deference to it.
Oh, other people should respect the office.
Nope, that's gone.
None of that.
He has no leg to stand on.
dan friesen
None.
jordan holmes
He is a racist, sexist, transphobic.
dan friesen
Anybody who, like, in any way insults Melania, there's no way he can say, like, respect the First Lady.
You said she was a man.
jordan holmes
And do you know what?
Do you know what the saddest part is?
Who cares?
I think Melania is a huge victim here.
dan friesen
Oh, definitely.
jordan holmes
She hates Trump.
dan friesen
She's stuck.
jordan holmes
She hates him being president.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
She knows she can't leave.
You can see it in her face.
Oh, in her eyes.
dan friesen
There are those moments, like there was that one video from the inauguration.
jordan holmes
Yeah, whenever she...
dan friesen
When he was looking at her, and she was smiling, and then she turned around, and Melania immediately got really scared looking.
It was horrifying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that did not look good.
dan friesen
But, be that as it may...
jordan holmes
That really, really bummed me out.
dan friesen
Now, we have two clips left.
This first one that I'm going to play is fucking weird, but kind of fun, and a little out there.
The last clip I'm going to play...
Is what made me rage turn off the episode.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
So get ready for two very different clips.
jordan holmes
Are we going to have to rage quit the episode?
dan friesen
We might.
jordan holmes
Is that how you're going to do this to us?
dan friesen
We might.
But anyway, this first one here is sort of about parenting, and then it gets into some stuff about Alex's childhood that's pretty fun.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
My kids love me because I act stupid.
unidentified
I want them make fun of me.
alex jones
And when it's serious, they do whatever I tell them.
Because they don't love them.
I'm not on their level.
I'm not messing with my kids like so many parents do.
Like they got something to prove to their kid and messing with them all day.
I'm like, all I want you is to have the best life in the world.
As long as you're cool about stuff, as long as you care about people, as long as you're nice, as long as you're loving, as long as you've got courage, I'll back whatever you want to do in your life.
Just don't be a jerk and don't be an elitist.
jordan holmes
Yes, good.
alex jones
And stand up for yourself.
And I'll let you do basically whatever you want.
dan friesen
Keep in mind that his 13-year-old son works for him.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
And hawks his products and shit.
jordan holmes
But I mean, if his 13-year-old son works for him and has those values...
dan friesen
And wants to, that's cool.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm totally...
That's a good way to raise your kid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is.
Sure.
unidentified
I wish he raised his listeners that way.
jordan holmes
I wish he was like, on his show, if he came out, just like, all I want you to do is be good and be nice and I want you to support people and don't be a jerk.
dan friesen
He's a bad dad to his listeners.
jordan holmes
Yeah, if he's doing that to his kids, good on him.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Take his radio show away and let him be a good father.
Maybe he's missed out on his calling.
Maybe he's a great fucking father.
dan friesen
Maybe, because he likes to let his kids make fun of him.
jordan holmes
Well, I don't think that's...
dan friesen
But when he's serious, they listen to every word.
jordan holmes
I really don't like that tone of voice.
dan friesen
No, it's really creepy.
unidentified
I don't like that.
jordan holmes
That's a creepy tone.
dan friesen
Really creepy.
jordan holmes
They do whatever I tell them.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, please don't say it like that.
dan friesen
So I think he has a couple more thoughts.
jordan holmes
I'm hiding in the bushes.
dan friesen
No!
I think he has a couple more thoughts and then some weird shit about his childhood.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
Because I love you.
jordan holmes
Which we all knew was coming.
alex jones
Don't sit there.
dan friesen
Oh, no, I forgot.
What actually he's about to say, I want to give a little introduction to.
He talks about the idea...
That people need therapy, kind of.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And you get like these other parents I see that just get on their kid's case and get in their faces and just work out psychological issues they already had previously themselves and their kids.
It's horrible to watch.
We've all seen it.
I'm not here working out my psychological issues with you.
I have already attained success in my life when I was very, very young.
unidentified
I just...
alex jones
I had the ancestral memory.
I'll leave it at that.
And I didn't know what to deal with it.
I didn't know what to do.
I felt like I was 80 years old when I was like five.
And now I realize everything the globalists do is to block that because whether you're a little girl, whether you're white, whether you're Asian, whether you're whatever you are, you have all these instincts.
Carl Jung discovered it all.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
unidentified
Well, hello.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So he's saying that when he was five, he had ancestral memories.
dan friesen
I'm just going to leave it at that.
jordan holmes
And he felt like an 80-year-old man.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
And that's not him quasi-joking.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
He believes that.
dan friesen
100%.
jordan holmes
That is very sincere.
dan friesen
He believes he has superpowers.
jordan holmes
No, he believes that Carl Jung knew it all.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
And the only reason that he doesn't raise his kids poorly is because he's been an 80-year-old man since he was five.
dan friesen
Which makes him about 120 now.
Yeah, he's...
jordan holmes
What is...
Oh, what does he think about that?
Now I want to listen to him tell his entire childhood.
dan friesen
I would love it.
jordan holmes
His autobiography would be fucking batshit.
dan friesen
I would love it if one day on the show, instead of talking about news, he just told his life story for three hours.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
That would be the best thing to break down ever.
jordan holmes
That would be perfect.
dan friesen
Because this idea of this ancestral memory, the idea of it- I was born a 65-year-old man.
If you think of it just as instincts and that we have ingrained things in us, like fear of animals and predators and that sort of thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why does everybody hate spiders?
dan friesen
Right.
That's something that absolutely is ingrained into our DNA.
There is that stuff.
But what he seems to be implying is that he has access.
To some sort of wealth of knowledge that other people aren't privy to.
jordan holmes
They are privy to it, but it's being suppressed.
Yes.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
It's kind of like...
jordan holmes
Now we have to answer the question.
Is he right?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
About the globalists?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Because he has now seen the globalists act for, at the very least, 120 years.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Now...
Can we then say that the 80-year-old man who he felt like as a 5-year-old had the same thing happen to him?
So now we're on 200 years.
How far back does this go?
dan friesen
I think the more likely...
jordan holmes
Did Alex Jones meet Jesus?
That's the real question that that...
dan friesen
He has a personal relationship with him.
jordan holmes
He does.
dan friesen
I would say...
jordan holmes
He had his house built by him.
dan friesen
I would say that the more possible and more likely thing is he has...
Paranoid delusions.
And has since he was a child.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it sure sounds like that, doesn't it?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's what he's saying about having ancestral memory.
I'm just gonna leave it at that.
Is basically an admission of a mental illness that dates back to his childhood.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and he has a number.
He has an age.
He thinks he's the kid from the sixth sense.
dan friesen
Basically.
jordan holmes
So, okay, so...
Whenever psychiatrists and psychologists get together and talk about this, there's that, you know, Trump has narcissistic personality disorder.
And it's been a rule since, I want to say, the Nixon years where it's like, we don't publicly diagnose people who aren't our patients.
Boy, it's hard to look at that and not be like, oh dude, that dude is delusional as fuck.
dan friesen
Right?
jordan holmes
He has a mental illness.
dan friesen
Yeah, but that also would explain why...
He has to label everyone who disagrees with him as having a mental illness.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Because he is an untreated mental illness victim.
jordan holmes
He's living in a world where he's the only one of himself.
dan friesen
Yeah, and everyone used to be like me.
unidentified
Oh, man.
dan friesen
But all the shit in the water is changing you.
jordan holmes
Now he's in an X-Files episode.
dan friesen
Yeah, well, there was an X-Files character based on it.
jordan holmes
It's going full circle!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So now we get to the clip that made me turn off the show.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
I will give it this lead up.
I don't think he knows what he's saying.
Okay.
I hope.
jordan holmes
Are you absolving him?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Or are you, not absolving, are you like pre-prationalizing his behavior there in some way?
dan friesen
I have to think that he doesn't know what he's saying.
Because if he does...
jordan holmes
Then we have to end the show.
And we're going to cry all the time.
dan friesen
No, but he is really on the cusp of legal free speech.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He is going to say some things that I don't think are protected by the First Amendment.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
Let's say that.
jordan holmes
Can we use this show in...
As evidence in his eventual...
dan friesen
We might get a deposition.
unidentified
Ooh!
We might get subpoenaed.
jordan holmes
I want to get subpoenaed so bad!
That would make my day so much more interesting.
dan friesen
Now, when he talked about wanting to put a bullet in the head of trans people...
jordan holmes
Yes.
He couched that in such a way that you can't quite say you actively assaulted and threatened to murder somebody.
dan friesen
I think it's repugnant.
jordan holmes
But you implied the threat.
dan friesen
I think it's horrible.
But he is slippery enough that it is within the range of what he's allowed to say.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's got some wiggle room there.
dan friesen
This is a little bit less.
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
Less than my bullet identifies with your brain?
dan friesen
Yeah, less.
It's a little direct.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And I also want to make it totally clear that this is about three hours into the show.
Still has not played that clip from Chris Cuomo.
jordan holmes
And still hungover.
dan friesen
Still talking about this clip ad nauseum.
Bringing it up over and over again, but never playing it, because he knows if he plays it, it doesn't say what he says it says.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So anyway, get ready.
Don't talk over this, please.
Sorry, just because it's that evil.
alex jones
Chris Como in bizarre Twitter comment.
I wonder if she's the problem or her overprotective and intolerant dad teach tolerance.
Yeah, we want to have a tranny in the shower with your daughter and you don't like it so you're intolerant.
You should accept.
Hey, Cuomo, let's look at it.
Does he have any kids?
Probably, maybe he does.
Some guy pulls his Johnson out of the park for your daughter.
You're not going to beat his ass?
No.
Maybe not.
Maybe.
I mean, I don't know.
This just sounds like pedophilia to me, bro.
But what'd your dad say?
You're pro-life, you're pro-gun, you're not welcome to New York, get out.
He went further, he said, I mean it, get out.
He's got three kids, yeah.
Well, then I think we should start tweeting at him and volunteer him, you know.
I mean, it's illegal, he shouldn't be done.
He's gonna put his kids in porn at age 12?
I mean, where's it go from there, you know?
Nambla says he should be able to come knock, Nambla wants to legalize them.
Come into your door and ask your kids out.
You're gonna let your 10-year-old, 12-year-old date them?
dan friesen
So that's that lie there at the end, but I think, did you catch what I'm talking about?
He has kids.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think we should tweet at him and volunteer.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
To do what?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's encouraging people to harass Chris Cuomo about pulling their dicks out in front of his kids.
That's literally what he's saying.
jordan holmes
He said that.
unidentified
It wasn't like...
dan friesen
Now, if he was nobody, that would be horrible.
But he's someone who has dumb fucking listeners who are known to attack people on social media.
That is one of the most irresponsible fucking things I have ever heard in my life.
Chris Cuomo, when he was talking about the situation, he was saying that it is intolerance to not allow trans people into the bathroom of their identity.
He was not saying...
That a daughter of some hypothetical person is intolerant because she doesn't want to see a dick.
That is not what he was saying.
That's misrepresenting it, and he's calling people to action to do something, even though it's only over Twitter, that's still probably illegal.
jordan holmes
He said, go on Twitter and offer...
dan friesen
Volunteer.
He very, very conveniently dropped the thought.
jordan holmes
And then let it sit.
dan friesen
And he said, oh, that's probably illegal.
It is illegal.
jordan holmes
It's very much illegal.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
To say to your audience, go offer this man...
dan friesen
Go sexually harass his daughters.
unidentified
Yeah.
How...
dan friesen
And he only made that statement.
He only made that claim after he had confirmation that Chris Cuomo had kids.
Fuck this shit.
jordan holmes
Wow.
unidentified
How...
jordan holmes
I mean, see, and then you have to say...
unidentified
If you're saying that, though, he has to believe it.
jordan holmes
He has to believe it.
dan friesen
What does he have to believe?
jordan holmes
If you genuinely believe, if you genuinely believe that the main goal of all of this trans acceptance is to...
Get your daughters into a bathroom with a dude who can fuck them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Then that's the only way you can justify inciting people to do that.
dan friesen
And I don't even think if that were the truth, if his nightmare hypothetical scenario about trans rights, if that were the truth, what he's saying still is not okay.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
The answer is not.
jordan holmes
It's not double down.
It's not if your kid is getting pedophiled, pedophile somebody else's kid.
That's never been the answer to anything.
dan friesen
See how they like it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not how that works.
dan friesen
No.
He's also sort of implying that his audience would like to do that.
Because he's saying we should call him and volunteer.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
As if that was something that you would want to do in the first place, you fucking filthy fuck.
jordan holmes
We should call him and volunteer.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's time somebody taught you a lesson.
By hurting your child.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Which it really sounds like someone who cares about children.
Certainly cares.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Someone who has a grasp on the issues.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And really just wants to defend children.
jordan holmes
I just want to raise my children to not be a jerk.
dan friesen
Yeah.
By being the biggest fucking jerk in the world.
jordan holmes
What a fucking monster.
That's a monstrous thing to say.
dan friesen
And that's why I had to immediately turn this off.
jordan holmes
You could not.
There's just no way that you can rationalize that.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You can't.
dan friesen
No.
Do you want to listen to it again, just to make sure we're not...
Just to be clear that we're not...
jordan holmes
I think I do, because I'm trying to fit this in with my...
dan friesen
See if you can do a better job of parsing it a second time around.
jordan holmes
I'm trying to...
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Now keep in mind, every time that Alex Jones wants to play on your sympathies and pretend he's a victim, just play this clip in your head.
alex jones
Chris Como in Bizarre Twitter Comment.
I wonder if she's the problem or her overprotective and intolerant dad teach tolerance.
Yeah, we want to have a tranny in the shower with your daughter and you don't like it so you're intolerant.
You should accept.
Hey, Cuomo, let's look at him.
Does he have any kids?
Probably, maybe he does.
Some guy pulls his Johnson out of the park for your daughter.
You're not going to beat his ass?
No.
Maybe not.
Maybe.
I mean, I don't know.
This just sounds like pedophilia to me, bro.
But what'd your dad say?
You're pro-life, you're pro-gun, you're not welcome to New York, get out.
And he went further, he said, I mean it, get out.
He's got three kids, yeah.
Well, then I think we should start tweeting at him and volunteer him, you know.
I mean, it's illegal, he shouldn't be done.
Is he gonna put his kids in porn at age 12?
I mean, where's it go from there, you know?
Nambula says he should be able to come knock.
Nambula wants to legalize them.
Come into your door and ask your kids out.
You're gonna let your 10-year-old, 12-year-old date them?
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We did not misrepresent that at all.
And, hey guys, that's in context.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is what fucking Stephen Colbert should be talking about.
Go ahead.
jordan holmes
Okay, I was trying to write down as much shorthand as I can do.
unidentified
One...
jordan holmes
Don't...
Say the word tranny.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
In such a dismissive and miserable...
dan friesen
He does it the same way Milo does, as if it's standing up for free speech by like, I will not allow myself to be language policed.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Then say the N-word, you coward.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If that's your real position, fuck you.
jordan holmes
In the shower with your daughter, how about a guy who pulls his Johnson out in the park?
dan friesen
Then he implies...
jordan holmes
Wouldn't you punch him?
dan friesen
Then he implies that Chris Cuomo wouldn't punch him.
jordan holmes
Maybe you wouldn't.
Dad said you're pro-life, get out.
dan friesen
I think that's, what, Mario Cuomo?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
How about we volunteer them?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think what he was saying there is, how about we volunteer your daughters to get fucked in the bathroom?
dan friesen
Even if that's the interpretation?
I don't think it is.
jordan holmes
I think that's what he...
Because I...
I think, because then he says put his kids in porn at the age of 12. Which is also crazy.
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know where he pulled that from.
jordan holmes
No, I think what he's saying is that if, here's what I think he's saying.
I actually, I think I might disagree with you on this one.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I think what he's saying there is if we allow these trans, if we allow trans people to go into the bathrooms.
That their gender is, that they associate with their gender, then Cuomo's kids should go first.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
I think that's what he's saying.
How about we volunteer them to go in there?
dan friesen
Well, I don't think that strangers can do that by Twitter.
jordan holmes
I don't think they can either.
Well, that's the other thing.
Why does he say Twitter?
Why do we need to get in contact with him?
Let's reach out to him on Twitter and volunteer.
dan friesen
I know it is a little bit nebulous what exactly he's saying, but even if your argument is correct, it's still...
jordan holmes
He's still inciting people to violence against him.
dan friesen
Or at least to harass his children.
jordan holmes
To assault him or harass his children or fucking go after...
Even the show knew.
Because they tried to play him off.
dan friesen
That's like Oscar shit.
jordan holmes
They tried to play him off.
They knew shit was going to go down.
dan friesen
I have to assume.
When he went to break, he was like, ooh, fuck, that got away from me.
He had to.
Because he stops himself in the middle of it, even.
Him recognizing, ah, that's illegal.
He has to be like, oh, why did I go down that road?
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
I, oh, man.
dan friesen
I guarantee that some people tweeted at Chris Cuomo.
I guarantee it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I bet.
dan friesen
And you know what else I guarantee?
The fucking coward Alex Jones.
If this ever turns into something he gets attacked about, he'll be like, I was joking.
jordan holmes
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
He was quasi-joking.
He was quasi-joking.
dan friesen
Now, this is unfortunately the sort of thing that we end up having to cover sometimes.
It's so much more fun when we can just laugh and goof around, but this is also a reality of Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I mean, this is the thing about his show and this show.
That does put everything I've ever known about him in context, because before we started doing this, I knew the same, like, jezebel headlines.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones says this crazy thing.
dan friesen
Sandy Hook isn't real.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
At no point has anybody really delved into this level of insanity.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because this is a truly cruel person, and they're not putting up his cruel shit.
They're putting up the headline-generating nonsense.
Yeah, because it's easier.
As cruel as Sandy Hook trutherism is, he didn't actively tell people to go rape children.
dan friesen
To be fair, he didn't say that here either, literally.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But this is the part where words have consequences.
The idea that you can say...
Listen, I just had questions about Sandy Hook.
But by covering it the way he did, it led to harassment of those families.
Because if you present it as a fake thing, all of those people are suspect.
In the same way, he can be like, look, Chris Cuomo's a fucking monster and I don't want dicks in showers.
And it's like, okay, you can make that argument and still be on solid ground.
But once you get into this territory of, you know, we should tweet at him.
That sort of thing.
You can no longer say that you don't have a part in whatever negative thing ends up happening.
jordan holmes
That's such...
unidentified
Is that illegal?
jordan holmes
Is that...
Where are we at on that?
That's something I want to know.
I want to know what that is because it reminds me of...
Not this particular thing, but the thought that I just had was the woman who tweeted something about...
Africa.
Something about HIV.
dan friesen
The girl who was on a flight.
jordan holmes
On a flight and then got off the flight and had no job and everybody on the internet hated her.
Her life was destroyed.
That was some organic weird internet justice thing that happened.
Great, guys.
We ruined one lady's life.
dan friesen
We're heroes.
Thousands of people bored on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Awesome.
We're all heroes now.
But that wasn't anybody Directing it.
unidentified
Here's what I would say.
jordan holmes
It's against the law to incite a riot, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's against the law to get up in front of a large group of people and tell them to go burn shit down.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Does that apply to Twitter?
dan friesen
I don't know.
It's sort of a gray area.
I know that it apparently wasn't illegal him saying that someone should go look into Comet Ping Pong Pizza.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then the guy shows up with a gun there.
And when he's interviewed, he said he was inspired by listening to Infowars.
jordan holmes
Right.
But that's, I mean, that's the same thing as, you know, not necessarily the same thing, but, you know, my dog is the voice of Satan and he told me to kill my friend.
dan friesen
Right, but I'm saying that he literally said that people, someone should check out that sort of thing.
jordan holmes
And he said check out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's his, you know.
If I said check out the pizza place because they make great pizza and somebody showed up with a gun saying that I inspired them to go there, that's not quite the same thing.
But the checkout context kind of works there.
This one's very specific.
This one's very wrong.
I don't like this one.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
Like I said, I don't know if it's illegal.
I do think that he's really on the cusp of what free speech protects.
Because slander, threats of violence, those things aren't protected under free speech.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Those are still crimes.
And I don't know if this technically can be construed as a threat, but man, it feels like it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And so, Alex, you're on thin fucking ice.
jordan holmes
I mean, at this point...
dan friesen
You lost your sponsor.
jordan holmes
Anytime anybody says Trump, period, it comes across as a threat.
Like any Trump supporter saying, Trump!
That's a threat to so many people.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it's because you're a dumb pussy, libtard cuck.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
Why do we always have to come back to that?
dan friesen
You always forget.
Anyway, that is as much as I could stomach of February 24th on the Alex Jones program.
I can't imagine it got better.
jordan holmes
Again, that last hour was him apologizing and saying that we should all be tolerant, and he started raising his listeners the way he raised his kids.
I'm sure of this.
I'm sure of this.
dan friesen
It has to be redemption.
jordan holmes
This is classic Joseph Campbell.
This is a hero's journey.
dan friesen
I'm sure he came back from break and was like, guys, that really got away from me.
I'm so sorry about that.
Listen, sometimes I get heated.
jordan holmes
Right.
I wasn't even quasi-joking this time.
I was being sincere, and then I realized what my beliefs were were wrong.
And I've grown, and I've become a better person.
dan friesen
That's one possibility.
Or the other possibility is he came back and sold bone pills.
Possibly more likely.
jordan holmes
I want to say that one's more likely, but we could live in an infinite universe.
dan friesen
Anyway, fuck you, Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Fuck you!
dan friesen
You make this very hard for me to sit through.
But anyway, people can follow us at knowledge underscore fight.
jordan holmes
We're on iTunes at Knowledge Fight.
Download us.
dan friesen
We got a couple of nice reviews.
I really appreciate it.
Thank you.
I don't have the names in front of me, but people who have left reviews, we really appreciate it.
jordan holmes
We've had a bunch of cool stuff made for us.
That video with Ludacris was fucking amazing.
dan friesen
Thank you again, JP.
jordan holmes
The logos that people have been making for us, all of this stuff has been very heartening.
dan friesen
Keep them coming.
jordan holmes
We're sorry to close the episode the way that we did.
dan friesen
It wasn't our choice.
jordan holmes
No, no.
dan friesen
That's on Alex.
jordan holmes
Well, it's also a little bit on you.
You could have left us alone in this world where we believe he's fun and fancy freak.
dan friesen
Yeah, well, that would not be accurate reporting.
jordan holmes
Nope, nope.
dan friesen
So yeah, you can reach us at knowledgefightatgmail.com.
Again, like Jordan said, we really appreciate everything that people have been sending in.
We love it.
Thank you all so much.
unidentified
We love you.
dan friesen
We'll be back soon.
But until then, you know, we're just a couple of fucking policy wonks.
jordan holmes
That's us!
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
andy in kansas
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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