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Feb. 22, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#15: February 20-21, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan about the wild, earth-shattering changes that took place in the world of Alex Jones between Monday, Feb 21st and Tuesday, Feb 22nd.  Topics include: Can Alex do character based improv comedy? Does Alex actually know what "strawman" means? How much money did Alex lose overnight? Did that New York Times article turn out well?

Participants
Main voices
a
alex jones
19:57
d
dan friesen
55:53
j
jordan holmes
44:46
Appearances
r
robert david steele
01:40
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millie weaver
00:17
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
We are a couple of dudes who like to sit around and drink wine and talk about Alex Jones.
Twist is, I know a lot about InfoWars.
jordan holmes
I don't know anything about Infowars.
dan friesen
And therein lies the fun.
jordan holmes
We're on how many episodes?
I still don't know anything about Infowars.
dan friesen
I think you know more about it than a lot of people who listen regularly.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
I think because of your keen bullshit detector, your awareness of history, these sorts of things.
Jordan, I've been building up today's episode insanely.
jordan holmes
I can't begin to describe.
Christmas fucked Independence Day.
This is insane.
dan friesen
There is a reason, and I am thrilled.
jordan holmes
There's a reason for the season.
dan friesen
Today, we are going to be covering February 20th and 21st in the life of Alex Jones, the coverage of the Alex Jones show on the InfoWars Network, and this is a show that I would like to call What a Difference a Day Makes.
I would like to start trying to give our episodes names.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
This one is what a difference a day, babe.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
This is going to be a rollercoaster ride.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
It's fun.
Before we get into it, though, I want to try and do this up top instead of deeply at the end.
If you want to follow us, we're on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.
If you want to reach out to us, please subscribe on iTunes.
We would appreciate it.
I have a feeling that our show and our voices are going to become way more relevant in the future.
jordan holmes
Inexplicably.
And also, it's both sad and exciting that we are suddenly relevant.
dan friesen
Yeah, you might...
You'll sound really smart with your friends.
As Alex Jones becomes more and more mainstreamized.
jordan holmes
It's like being a hipster but for the apocalypse.
Like, dude, I was in the apocalypse way before you were.
dan friesen
Or a Goebbels hipster.
jordan holmes
I preferred his early work.
dan friesen
I listened to Goebbels podcast before the Nazi thing.
jordan holmes
You guys will never be there.
dan friesen
Also, please, if you tweet out that you like the show, tell your friends about it.
Word of mouth.
It's like that Ludacris album.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, also...
dan friesen
That's word of mouth.
jordan holmes
Also, I'm going to break tradition.
I'm going to put my personal handle out.
It's at Jake Mondale.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Here's what I realized as I was driving earlier today.
First thing I thought was, I've never gotten death threats.
I'd like to see how that goes.
I bet that is fun.
dan friesen
I bet you won't.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I doubt it.
dan friesen
I did run a targeted ad and I made sure that it only got put on people's Twitter walls who have a college diploma.
jordan holmes
So we're free in the clear.
dan friesen
We're safe.
jordan holmes
Eventually we're going to have to...
David, the Infowars Goliath.
dan friesen
Possibly.
We might have to confront our fears and actually tweet at them at some point.
jordan holmes
Sooner or later.
dan friesen
But for now, let's enjoy the...
Let's not fuck around anymore.
Let's get to the fun.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
So, Monday, the 20th.
It's fancy, free, classic Alex in the studio.
Like a kid who doesn't know he's about to get hit by a bus.
Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
You are gleeful.
You might do a pirouette at any moment while introducing these clips.
dan friesen
When we get to why, it'll make sense.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But at the same time, we'll get to my whole encompassing...
I fucking hate that I...
jordan holmes
Let's do this.
Let's get into this.
dan friesen
Alex starts off the broadcast on Monday complaining about the new season of Homeland.
alex jones
We got a call here at the office a few months ago that the whole new series of Homeland...
Popular TV show was going to be coming out and is based around me.
And I'm this evil talk show host that puts out disinformation and causes disasters.
dan friesen
Just to pause for a second.
He's not bullshitting.
jordan holmes
No, he's not?
dan friesen
No, there is a character that's very clearly based on him.
jordan holmes
Okay, because I was going to say, it seems like that's a classic Alex Jones embellishment there.
dan friesen
Later in the show, he plays a clip of the guy, and he's taking umbrage at this guy playing a version of him on television, and they play a clip, and this guy is just talking about the globalists.
Talking about how everyone needs to share links to InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Okay.
It's just...
It's literally...
Do they even sound the same?
dan friesen
The guy is doing a bad impression.
I think I could do better.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Quite frankly.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But it's like the guy just says that there's globalists and that people should share links and that the spirit of the republic is coming back.
unidentified
And Alex Jones is like, look at this asshole.
jordan holmes
I would never say something crazy like that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I also hope that that actor just followed Alex Jones around like, I'm doing research for a role.
It's just for, you know.
dan friesen
Like Gerard Butler did with Adam Carolla.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
For that one fucking movie.
So also, we're going to get back into this clip about Homeland.
And I think it highlights one really interesting thing where we've documented that Alex Jones doesn't really know the difference between reality and fiction.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And it turns out, I don't think he knows that other people can tell the difference.
Which might explain a lot, but he seems to think that everybody thinks that it's actually him on the show.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Does it look eerily similar to him?
dan friesen
I haven't seen a picture of it, I just heard the audio.
But anyway, here's the rest of this.
alex jones
So the whole push is, ban Alex Jones, he's evil.
Of course, the New York Times basically has the same thing in a big article today.
dan friesen
Also, that is the article that he was talking about the photographer on our last episode.
jordan holmes
Yes, we found out that at least one part of that is confirmed.
dan friesen
There were pictures of him.
jordan holmes
There were pictures of him.
dan friesen
He talks so much more about this article later, and we'll get to it.
jordan holmes
Because it's a glowing positive review?
dan friesen
It was.
Not good.
alex jones
And I went online just from the trailers for it.
People believe I'm on the show, and they believe that I am now working with Showtime.
To put out this information.
In fact, let's play this.
Let's back that up.
Let's play this with audio in a moment.
But this is what I'm dealing with now.
Not just the X-Files character in a studio that looks just like mine, and then Chris Carter admits the guy's based on me, but at least he's a good guy on the show somewhat.
unidentified
No.
alex jones
With this new Homeland show and others, I'm out framing innocent Muslims.
And covering up, basically, terror attacks that other groups carry out.
jordan holmes
Is he on the Big Bang Theory now?
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a character based on him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that works.
dan friesen
It's an interesting twist for this parody character to be framing innocent Muslims, because that's kind of metaphorically what he does.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And then covering up terrorist attacks and saying things are false flags, when he does say everything is a false flag.
jordan holmes
Legitimately, I would not be surprised if this is just a transcript from one of his shows.
All of this guy's lines are just reading down.
dan friesen
The shit that they play is, essentially.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Well, like I said, talking about the globalists, that's not a parody, even.
jordan holmes
Yikes.
dan friesen
But also, did you see today that when that New York Times article came out, the sister of one of the kids killed at Sandy Hook tweeted it?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And was like, this is disgusting.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That sort of thing.
This is a man who denies the murder of my brother.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Fuck off, Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Agreed.
dan friesen
That's the kind of thing he says is a false flag.
So whatever umbrage he's taking about this character, go fly a kite.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Go fuck yourself.
But the thing that I kept seeing was that people kept referring to that as being a seminal moment.
And that is terrible.
I hate that.
dan friesen
Oh, the New York Times article?
jordan holmes
Yeah, or the Sandy Hook thing.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, oh, he's so much more crazy than that.
I kept reading those tweets being like, you guys don't know shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, you don't know the nuances of the little stuff.
jordan holmes
You have no idea how crazy this tweet is.
dan friesen
But Sandy Hook is a big one.
jordan holmes
It is huge.
dan friesen
But also, I want to make this argument, and I think it's going to overarch this entire episode.
Part of the reason why I brought up this Sandy Hook tweet.
When he said those things, he did not have his free speech taken away.
jordan holmes
Odd.
dan friesen
One of the worst things you can probably do or insinuate is that all of these murdered children are fake.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that someone was...
Because what ended up happening was all of the family members of these kids got harassed.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
And they got death threats.
Like, you're part of a massive cover-up.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
All this stuff.
That's largely because of Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
How could you imagine a worse tragedy than your child dying?
That's the worst thing I can think of.
Having your child be murdered.
And then, while you're trying to grieve, people are giving you fucking death threats.
What is wrong with humanity?
dan friesen
We're just a couple of dumb sheeple who don't get it.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
Anyway, he has a couple more thoughts here.
But also, that character in The X-Files, the new series, also was based on him.
It turns out there's a lot of people who are inspired by his version of craziness.
Two in this room.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
alex jones
Now, I'm covering up false flags on the new TV show, and the voice sounds enough like me in the trailers that people are asking, Alex, why'd you sell out for a show attacking yourself?
So you talk about fake news.
This is a fake show that has a fake newscaster playing the part of me and then saying things I didn't say.
It's fake upon fake upon fake.
I sat there.
jordan holmes
It's saying things I didn't say.
It's not fake.
It's fiction.
It's fiction.
It's just a TV show.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's creative shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's, again...
Well within the parody law.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
Who is asking him, like, why did you sell out?
dan friesen
Maybe his lawyer.
Remember his lawyer didn't know if he'd been kicked out of the Trump event?
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
That's a good point.
dan friesen
Maybe he's just the world's worst misinformed lawyer.
And he's just like, hey man, is that you?
jordan holmes
Hey!
dan friesen
Did I sign documents to get you on that show?
jordan holmes
What's going on here?
Are you getting royalties?
What's happening here?
dan friesen
I need a taste.
jordan holmes
So, they don't have to...
They don't have to pay him for that, do they?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
I mean, they're basically using his likeness.
dan friesen
Has Alex Jones trademarked yelling about globalists?
jordan holmes
That's a good, good point.
Also, we just looked at a picture of the actor playing him.
Nothing like Alex Jones.
dan friesen
I recognize that dude, though.
I've seen him in some stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I can't, for the life of me, place where it is.
Anyway, I don't give a shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Fuck him!
dan friesen
Monday goes on, and Alex Jones does some horrible argumentation.
This clip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Is spectacular.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
Because he accuses other people of misusing sources.
Which is his bread and butter.
jordan holmes
It's all he does.
dan friesen
Then, he argues about people making a straw man fallacy, and then without missing a beat, makes a straw man fallacy.
unidentified
So this clip is a ride.
jordan holmes
He's some kind of superhero of being a complete and utter moron.
dan friesen
Yeah, I...
alex jones
Yeah, I...
dan friesen
Wait till we get to Tuesday.
I have so many fine thoughts.
alex jones
So, Trump's lying about knowing Russian agents.
And this is so verifiably easy to disprove.
dan friesen
So what he's talking about here is that a bunch of people were saying like, oh, you said you don't know Russian agents, but that must mean that you don't know Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because Roger Stone has deep ties to Russia.
jordan holmes
Or Michael Flynn.
dan friesen
Yeah, any of these dudes.
jordan holmes
Any of these dudes.
dan friesen
The idea is a style of argumentation.
I believe it's just a classic syllogism.
If A, then B. If B, then C. If A, then C. Right.
You know Roger Stone.
Roger Stone has deep ties to Russia.
Therefore, you know someone who has deep ties to Russia.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alex doesn't understand this at all as a logical form, and so he's like, why are they trying to say that Trump doesn't know Roger Stone?
You don't understand the point.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or you do and you're just trying to murky the water.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
Your basic trick is just deny.
Deny, deny, and then maybe...
I mean, his followers are just going to believe whatever it is.
dan friesen
Deny and pray.
jordan holmes
Deny and pray.
It's time to deny and pray.
alex jones
But they don't care.
They sit there like con men that have been caught and they just double and quadruple and triple down and just don't care.
jordan holmes
That's you.
alex jones
Look at the lie.
Is Trump lying about Roger Stone and Russia?
See, first, is Trump lying about knowing Roger Stone?
Never says, I don't know Roger Stone.
It's not even a clip of him saying that at a press conference.
The clip doesn't even correspond to what they say.
It's like saying, I saw a bluebird in the nest.
You look in the tree, there's not even a nest.
Or there's not even a bird.
There's not even a tree, folks.
Look at that tree.
You're like, that looks like a mouse for a computer.
That's not a tree.
Yeah, it is.
And you're like, no it's not.
You're not even having a logical discussion.
They just go, that doesn't matter.
dan friesen
I know a better metaphor.
If you want to come up with an analogy for someone claiming a source says something that it doesn't, go to any of our episodes.
Listen to us explain every time he's done that.
jordan holmes
I just love that.
That is the perfect analogy.
I saw a bluebird.
I saw a bluebird's nest in the tree.
There's no nest.
There's no bird.
There's not even a tree.
Wait, are you looking in the right place?
Is that the real issue?
Are you looking still in your studio?
dan friesen
There's no bird, there's no plane, there's no Superman!
Alright, he's so dumb.
alex jones
Doesn't matter.
So this is a psychological warfare tactic, but...
dan friesen
By his own admission right there, he engages in psychological warfare.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's a great tactic.
He should really just be praising the tactic, being like, hey, everything they're trying to do is what they're saying we're doing, so I'm doing it.
dan friesen
This is a psychological warfare tactic, and as evidence that it's effective, look at this giant screen behind me.
Look at the fact that I've conned all of you with bone pills.
alex jones
I started getting calls.
I guess it premiered last night.
dan friesen
Back to Homeland.
alex jones
On Showtime.
Then I guess it goes like Netflix later.
This show Homeland.
I know it's been a big show for years.
And I'm sitting there and people are saying, you're on Homeland?
Because I guess they start out the first episode where you don't see me.
I haven't seen it yet and it just sounds like my voice.
jordan holmes
He's totally seen it.
dan friesen
But again, he doesn't say you don't see the character.
He says you don't see me.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He doesn't understand the veil between fiction and reality.
It's fascinating.
jordan holmes
I mean, it is him.
I would actually accept that shorthand because if it's based entirely upon him and so far, it's kind of...
Yeah.
dan friesen
It sounds like it is.
I've never seen Homeland, but this sounds like a bullseye.
jordan holmes
It's crazy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, it sounds about right.
So I actually give him a pass on using the me there.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
You've convinced me, but I'm still going to keep it in the back of my head.
jordan holmes
Unless he perfectly described what the guy looked like, but he was just looking into a mirror and described himself.
dan friesen
Guy looks like a chubby pug.
Hasn't slept in months.
jordan holmes
I mean, people are calling me and saying that I look like a chubby pug.
I don't even know.
Yeah.
alex jones
But then it doesn't even sound like my voice.
It sounds like my voice, but then the guy isn't good at it.
He kind of goes back into like an Australian accent and then back into kind of what I sound like.
And it's just like, I have to defend myself against this, that this isn't me?
And then people go, oh, Alex, quit saying there's TV shows about you.
The creators of it are in a whole bunch of newspapers, Variety and Entertainment Weekly.
I mean, go look Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Google it.
alex jones
And Homeland, and it's just like hundreds of articles admitting it.
dan friesen
Again, he has no idea what numbers are.
But the other thing, too, in there that's important for what's about to come up is this idea that he's like, I have to defend myself against this?
It's like, no, it's a character.
jordan holmes
No, it's, yeah.
dan friesen
There's just a character that's based on you.
You don't have to defend yourself against that.
jordan holmes
Who are you defending yourself against?
He's defending himself against his own people, right?
dan friesen
Or his own insecurities or something like that.
I imagine that the character is illustrating something about himself that he's uncomfortable with.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
dan friesen
I imagine.
jordan holmes
Just his entire existence?
dan friesen
Possibly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that could be it.
dan friesen
But then his defense...
jordan holmes
Like, in the fictional world, though, he has to come to terms with the fact that this guy...
Is a propagandist who spouts conspiracy theories.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So he's looking at himself and going, wait, if I were watching this, I would think this guy is crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I think people think I'm crazy.
dan friesen
At least enough people to make a TV show.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
There's a lot he's got to do.
unidentified
Can you imagine looking yourself through that kind of a funhouse mirror?
jordan holmes
That would be crazy.
If you, if you, once we have clones, right, if you're walking behind your clone, it's like looking at your own ass being like, oh, fuck.
dan friesen
I gotta work out.
jordan holmes
I gotta work out.
God damn it.
dan friesen
Yeah, but the thing that I think also is fascinating is he's like, I've gotta defend myself against this, and then immediately his next thought is, people are saying, people are gonna say, Alex, you're crazy, there aren't TV shows about you.
No one's saying that.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
We all are very clear that there are.
jordan holmes
There are.
dan friesen
100% there are.
What we think you're crazy about.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, but they're not about him.
I think he thinks if he's a character on a show, he's the most important character on that show.
dan friesen
The character that he played or that was based on him in the X-Files was not the most important character.
jordan holmes
It wasn't?
dan friesen
It was not Fox Mulder.
jordan holmes
In Alex Jones' world?
dan friesen
It was.
jordan holmes
It was the most important character.
dan friesen
Again, I haven't seen Homeland, but it's like the fifth or sixth season of it, and I'm sure that it's just part of the arc for the season.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So, I don't fucking...
jordan holmes
So, I'm assuming the Alex Jones character becomes the advisor to the president.
dan friesen
Or maybe just dies.
Who knows?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that'd be fun.
dan friesen
He's got to get back to his...
jordan holmes
Also, I want to hear Alex Jones do an Australian accent.
Does he do one?
All right.
Yeah, I don't think there's any way to do the Alex Jones voice and do it.
dan friesen
No, it hurts my throat.
So he's going to get back into his ideas about how this character is a straw man, and how it's stupid to do straw man arguments.
Then he's going to misrepresent what a straw man argument is, and then he's going to commit one.
jordan holmes
It's so fascinating.
I was so excited because I was like, oh man, Alex Jones knows what a straw man argument is.
The next thing you said was, and he gets the straw man argument wrong.
dan friesen
Very much.
alex jones
So then there's that whole thing where guaranteed to let MSM say Jones is crazy and claims there's TV shows about him.
In fact, when Chris Carter came out and said the New X-Files is based on Alex Jones and his ideas and his theories and his worldview to a great extent, and there's a character that basically plays him.
And I like Alex Jones.
And I think Alex Jones is a libertarian, not a racist.
Well, Chris Carter sounds like a closet Trump supporter to me, but I'm not going to say anything.
They came out and said I was lying about that and the New X-Files wasn't about me.
I mean, it's like, I'm horrible, I'm dangerous, I'm reaching hundreds of millions of people every few months, but nobody listens, and I'm a cook.
Shut me up, though.
And Trump's lying, saying he doesn't know Roger Stone, then there's no such thing.
And then I read the comments, and I got depressed reading it, because it's all like liberals.
They're like, see, he has been caught as a Russian, and caught not knowing him.
They just make up these, it'd be like if I had them bring in...
Bob the kickboxing dummy.
Like, we've got one here in the office.
And if I beat up Bob the kickboxing dummy and said, look, he didn't lay a hand on me, he didn't lay a glove on me, people say, dude, it's an inanimate object.
It's a straw man.
If I had a pinata of, say, Michael Moore, and I beat it up, I didn't really beat up Michael Moore.
They've now reached, like, two-year-old level, and I realized it.
People are now wearing little...
dan friesen
So, that's what he thinks a straw man is.
jordan holmes
He doesn't understand any of the words.
I don't understand what he was talking about.
I'm just excited to know that they have a punching dummy in their office.
dan friesen
He was essentially saying that if he beat up a fake version of Michael Moore, he could say he beat up Michael Moore, and that's a straw man.
jordan holmes
That's not.
dan friesen
On a very, very metaphorical basis, it kind of is.
If you create a fake version of Michael Moore to rhetorically attack...
Then yes, that is.
jordan holmes
He might as well have said, if I beat up a VHS copy of The Wicker Man, I have destroyed a straw man.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, if you say that Chuck Schumer is a vampire, and then you attack him for his vampirism, that's kind of a straw man.
jordan holmes
That's pretty much a straw man argument right there.
dan friesen
Yeah, big time!
jordan holmes
If you say that all liberals are agents of the globalists who are trying to destroy the country from within, and they've openly said that...
Instead of, you know, engaging with liberal ideas, you're just creating some sort of, I don't know, like an imaginary...
dan friesen
Like a hey dude?
jordan holmes
Like, yeah, yeah.
Like if Bob, the punching bug dummy, represent...
So he lives and dies on straw man arguments, is the point.
dan friesen
And here's a new one.
alex jones
They've now reached like two-year-old level, and I realized it.
People are now wearing little...
Safety pins on their collar that means I could be triggered.
I believe I'm in a safe space.
Just basically don't even talk to me.
I'm a basket case.
And they're now everywhere coming into jobs and saying, you can't ever criticize me or I have a disability.
I'll have to sue you because I'm a snowflake.
Total mental illness.
And this is what they're pushing.
This is what they're doing.
dan friesen
So this is what they're pushing.
This is what they're doing.
jordan holmes
Nobody's doing that.
dan friesen
Anybody who knows what those safety pins are about, it's trying to signal to people that I will be an ally for you.
If you are being attacked by somebody, you can count on me to defend you.
That is the idea of the safety pin.
His argument is, I'm a cuckoo bananas person.
jordan holmes
It's clearly that people who wear safety pins have a mental illness.
And they will go into jobs.
Which, I don't know how they got these jobs in the first place.
Did they get them from Steve Jobs?
Steve Jobs is dead.
Every liberal thinks Steve Jobs is still alive.
The same way the globalists.
Froze Walt Disney?
I don't know.
I lost that one.
I lost control of that one.
That one got out of control.
dan friesen
You took it far enough.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
You can't criticize.
Who is like, hey, if you criticize me, I will sue you.
dan friesen
I'm glad you picked up on that.
Important to remember.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Just remember that he's complaining that these snowflakes are litigious.
jordan holmes
And we will be writing that down in the notes.
dan friesen
Now, we are going to take a little tour through the rest of the time on the episode where Alex Jones proceeds to be every negative thing that people think about him.
This first clip, he shows off a little bit of his Islamophobia chops.
alex jones
In New York City.
In D.C. You cannot make this up.
dan friesen
He's showing video of a protest, a march there, where people took some time to appreciate and enjoy some Muslim prayer.
You know, take a moment of silence to recognize one of the world's largest religions.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Respectfully.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And Alex.
Really is not happy about that.
jordan holmes
Which is like a good show of solidarity.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
Celebrating other people's cultures is a delightful thing to do.
jordan holmes
Right.
It's like wearing a safety pin that looks like a hijab.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Oh boy.
unidentified
Oh boy.
dan friesen
I think I left this in because it's really nice singing.
jordan holmes
It is kind of beautiful.
I have no affiliation with any religion whatsoever.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That is touching.
dan friesen
I like that throat sound or whatever it is.
It's a nice tone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there is a reason that religion kind of resonates with people.
dan friesen
Yeah, it digs deep down.
Alex, though, has some ideas that kind of drift sexual in a weird way.
jordan holmes
Of course.
unidentified
Of course.
alex jones
We should probably cut to the other one where we have the feminists going, Allah Akbar, Allah Akbar.
And again, this is a fetish.
This is a cuckolding.
They see this as really anti-Christian, anti-freedom, anti-West, anti-open society.
And so the groups leading these are Islamic.
You can go look it up in Paul's article.
They hand out these plastic hijabs.
That women then put on by the thousands, and then they put it on the news, saying, look how beautiful this is.
jordan holmes
Does he get to the clip of a woman saying, Allahu Akbar?
dan friesen
There's a clip of a woman leading a prayer at the Women's March, and she is yelling, Allahu Akbar, but that just means God is great.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That doesn't mean anything.
Just because people yell it when they're committing terrorism sometimes doesn't mean that the phrase itself is bad.
jordan holmes
No, I'm going to go with, yeah.
dan friesen
Are you?
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
You are?
jordan holmes
All phrases are bad.
dan friesen
Okay.
I couldn't tell if you were being sarcastic.
But it's the same thing with, like, you know, it's a harder argument, but in non-hateful contexts, a swastika isn't offensive.
You know, in, like, Hindu traditions and things like that?
jordan holmes
Right.
Yes.
Okay.
Now I'm back on board with you.
dan friesen
The physical shape of it is not what's offensive.
It's the connotation of it.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And the use of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The phrase Allah Akbar is not offensive.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's offensive if someone is shooting you yelling it.
But that's because of the shooting.
jordan holmes
If you were yelling pretty much anything while you're shooting me, I'm going to take that in a negative light.
dan friesen
Great point.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
So then Alex is like, first, it's a cockle dang thing.
He always goes on these long rants about how these feminists all think it's cool to have jihadi boyfriends.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
I do not know that.
Is that a stereotype?
dan friesen
Because they're cuckolding their fucking nationality and their race.
jordan holmes
Wait, how is it a cuckolding?
dan friesen
Well, because they're not white.
What don't you get?
unidentified
I'll...
jordan holmes
All things.
dan friesen
It's that same white genocide narrative.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
So they're cuckolding...
dan friesen
Well, you know cuckold porn online is all essentially black men and white women.
jordan holmes
It's good stuff.
I'm not against it.
dan friesen
But that's the depth of his understanding of what that term means.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And so it's always white men being humiliated by white women dating ethnic...
jordan holmes
Are all white men humiliated by that?
dan friesen
Fucking Alex thinks so.
jordan holmes
Is he saying that all white men should be humiliated when a white woman dates anyone not white?
dan friesen
I think that's implied underneath what he's saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But I don't think he even knows that he believes that enough to express it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's pretty much...
White nationalism right there.
He is advocating full-on segregation.
No miscegenation.
dan friesen
I don't know if he was just not being careful with his words, but that's what he's saying.
jordan holmes
Well, as we all know, he is always careful with his words.
dan friesen
I mean everything I say.
So now he gets into...
jordan holmes
Even when I'm not telling the truth, it's really the truth.
dan friesen
He gets into a little bit of a combo platter in this next clip.
We get to enjoy a nice ride through...
Three of the greatest hits.
jordan holmes
It's like the Taste of Chicago, but, you know.
dan friesen
With misogyny, homophobia, and terrible, exploitative, pedophile fear-mongering.
jordan holmes
Does he do a voice?
dan friesen
I think he does.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
alex jones
So all of it is just completely upside down cuckoo land.
unidentified
*Cheering*
alex jones
And what other signs say?
Dismantle white supremacy.
Everything is anti-West, even though almost every one of them is white.
This is mass mental illness.
jordan holmes
If you are against dismantling white supremacy, that's bad.
dan friesen
That's real bad.
jordan holmes
That's really bad.
Because that means you're for white supremacy.
dan friesen
And if your argument is...
Isn't it crazy that they're against white supremacy and they're all white?
jordan holmes
And they're white?
What?
Both white and against white supremacy?
dan friesen
You really might be missing the mark.
jordan holmes
No, thank you.
If you're white, you should be not against white supremacy.
I'm not saying you should be for white supremacy.
I'm saying you should be at the very least neutral on white supremacy.
dan friesen
Or else you might end up a cuck.
Anyway, here we go.
alex jones
This is what you pay for at the colleges.
This is what goes on.
And you see the type of women, and I'm not bashing women out to the, like, women, give me a break.
Please don't put me on your level of being obsessed with what, you know, sexuality somebody is.
But these are the type of women that will come up to your good-looking wife, your girlfriend, whatever, in Austin, and start hitting on them in front of you, and they can't even believe it.
They're like, hey, back up.
They're like, whoa, I'm politically correct.
I'm royal.
If a man wants to compete on a women's team, he can.
If a woman wants to take steroids to compete on a women's team, she can.
If a man wants to go in a women's bathroom, he can.
Vice versa.
And Nambla says if they want to pick your five-year-old up out of the backyard, if your five-year-old says they want to go because they're promising a candy or a puppy or video games, that you shouldn't be able to under law.
They have it filed with the UN where they want international law to say they can come to your door.
I'm here to pick up your five-year-old.
And your five-year-old's been told about the school, whatever, it's going to be fun.
He's taking them to Star Wars.
You're like, no, Billy can't go.
And they're like...
Your child's allowed to love getting to me.
Your child's allowed to have an abortion at age 9 in California.
The state takes them away.
They're allowed to have inoculations without you saying because they have their own freedom to go with a pedophile.
jordan holmes
There's the voice.
alex jones
And the pedophiles argue we won't have to take them to a slave dungeon.
We might let them live.
You see, if you just let us have sex with them, we won't have to kill them and throw them in a shallow grave.
It's your fault we gotta kill kids.
We're liberal.
You're not.
Get used to it.
Now, you just heard me break down what we're actually facing.
It sounds unbelievable.
It sounds unreal.
It sounds like it couldn't be actually happening, but it is.
This is who we're facing.
dan friesen
This is who we're facing.
jordan holmes
It's your fault.
We have to kill kids.
dan friesen
We should probably isolate that for an out of context drop.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I think that should just be where we...
That's our new intro and outro.
dan friesen
That's the next I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
That's actually, yeah, that's how we close the show from now on.
Ladies and gentlemen, it is Alex Jones' fault that we have to kill kids.
We don't want to.
We just really have to.
We file the law with the UN that every time Alex Jones speaks, we have to kill a kid.
dan friesen
We don't want to.
jordan holmes
It hurts us more than it hurts the kids.
dan friesen
But you understand the logic that he's using there, right?
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
The logic he's using is that, look, all these pedophiles really want to do is have sex with kids.
alex jones
Yes.
dan friesen
But because they're not allowed to...
They gotta put him in a dungeon and kill him.
So he thinks that liberals want to allow people to have sex with kids in order that they don't have to kill them.
That's crazy.
jordan holmes
That is...
dan friesen
Especially considering that he defends Milo, who now has been outed as someone who literally defends pedophilia.
jordan holmes
I was just listening to that clip going...
This is before the Milo information arrived.
unidentified
Oh yes!
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
I won't lie, that plays into what a difference a day makes.
jordan holmes
All these pedophiles are liberals.
dan friesen
To be fair, when we talk about Milo, if you guys didn't hear, a number of clips came out that have been in the public sphere.
A lot of it was from his appearances on Rogan.
jordan holmes
It's not like we're going to say spoiler alert.
dan friesen
No, but he's not talking about fucking five-year-old kids.
Milo's talking about his own experience of having sex with adults when he was 13 and not recognizing...
His victimization.
Right.
He's not recognizing that the other person had an adult brain.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
At all.
And because he makes it so fine in the way he's talking about it, and actually a good thing, he is tacitly saying that adults should be able to fuck kids.
And that's a problem.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, there is a UN law that says it's okay.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
Actually, it doesn't say it's okay.
It says you have to.
dan friesen
No, no.
unidentified
If you have to allow the kid to go.
jordan holmes
I do like that.
I'm gonna take your five-year-old to Star Wars.
That's where it starts.
dan friesen
Because I promised him candy.
jordan holmes
It always starts with Star Wars.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
If I know anything, it's the globalists put a lot of pedophilia imagery into Star Wars.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Which is why...
And that's why Anakin...
Kills the younglings.
All he wanted to do was have sex with them.
dan friesen
You're totally right.
jordan holmes
But Yoda wouldn't let him.
dan friesen
That's why you had to call out Agenda 21. That's why Agenda 21 was called in.
jordan holmes
And we all know this.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So that's crazy fucking bullshit.
jordan holmes
That's insanity.
dan friesen
So within the last three clips, we've heard rampant misogyny, homophobia, transphobia, Islamophobia, horrible racism.
jordan holmes
Again, for...
I don't know how many times I'm going to say this.
It is not allowing men to go into the women's bathroom.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That's not what it's for.
dan friesen
That's not the discussion.
jordan holmes
And if you are in a women's bathroom, or if you're in a men's bathroom as a trans person...
There is a way higher chance that you are the one who will be sexually assaulted.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
And by way higher chance, I mean there is zero chance that it goes the other direction.
dan friesen
Documented.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, not zero, but very low.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
Nothing is zero, but who...
dan friesen
You can't account for cis or trans.
You can't account for the incidence of some bad people.
jordan holmes
Some bad hombres.
dan friesen
Yeah, being trans doesn't automatically make you a good person.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But it also definitely doesn't make you a bad person.
jordan holmes
And it very much is a...
Yeah.
dan friesen
It makes you a person.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Don't be a dick to trans people.
dan friesen
Agreed.
But anyway, all of that said, I still 100% want to make this clear.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Our show is not about trying to get Alex Jones kicked off the air.
I hate the things he says.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
But much like Voltaire would say, I defend to the death his right to say them.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He is a crazy asshole who should be seen as a crazy asshole, but I am not interested in censoring him.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I want that to be totally clear, despite all of this hate speech.
jordan holmes
Interestingly enough, if he was censored, we wouldn't be allowed to play his clips.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
And if he was legitimately censored, there would be a part of the show where our obligation would be to defend him.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And I would stand behind that obligation.
jordan holmes
I would agree.
dan friesen
Now, all of that hate speech...
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
...transitions into...
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
...what I would call some of the worst sketch comedy I've ever seen in my life.
So he's got a new reporter named Millie Weaver.
Who was making some YouTube videos and he discovered her and brought her in.
So she's his newest reporter and I don't know what the fuck convinced him that this was a good idea.
But she comes on the show as a character.
On Alex Jones' show.
jordan holmes
As a character?
dan friesen
As a character called Rainbow Snatch.
Who is...
jordan holmes
A character called Rainbow Snatch.
dan friesen
Who is a social justice warrior.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Okay.
One, did they steal that from My Little Pony?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I feel like there's a character on My Little Pony named Rainbow Snatch.
Or, in my fan fiction, there sure as fuck is.
dan friesen
One way or another, he's run afoul of copyright law.
jordan holmes
Okay, now, Rainbow Snatch.
dan friesen
Pussy.
jordan holmes
There's no other way to take that, right?
dan friesen
It's pussy hair.
jordan holmes
It is pussy.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
You gotta assume.
jordan holmes
So, Rainbow Pussy is number one.
Seems awesome.
I would totally...
If ever I found one, I would be like, this is the best day of my life!
dan friesen
It's horribly out of line with his program.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Has anything like this ever happened on Alex Jones before?
dan friesen
Not in my experience of watching the show.
jordan holmes
So out of the blue, he's like, it's time that Alex Jones did some sketch comedy.
dan friesen
Well, here, I'll tell you what.
Why don't I play how it starts?
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
All right, coming up later in the broadcast, after Dr. Jerome Corsi joins us, and I should add the Motor City Madman, Ted Nugent's going to be joining us.
He's getting ready to probably run for the Senate, is Rainbow Snitch.
jordan holmes
Snitch?
alex jones
Rainbow Snitch.
unidentified
It's Rainbow Snitch.
alex jones
Okay, I'm sorry, but she's the latest socialist.
We should probably get you a chair in there, because folks can't see your sign.
Here, let me have it.
jordan holmes
As we all know, rainbow snitches get stitches.
dan friesen
Rainbow snitches get rainbow stitches.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
This is terrible.
I'm not going to play the whole thing because it's fucking long.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's so long.
But please, enjoy how bad both of them are at character-based improv.
And how, like, literally, minutes before this, he was talking about how legally you will have to let your kids be taken by pedophiles.
jordan holmes
Yes.
This is level one Second City.
But it's all about pedophilia.
dan friesen
Minutes before.
So serious.
They're going to snatch up your kids.
jordan holmes
They're going to rainbow snatch up your kids.
alex jones
Thank you very much, ma 'am.
I appreciate you joining us.
unidentified
You're racist, xenophobic.
alex jones
Okay, well, we finally got one of you to come on the show.
You look a little bit like Millie Weaver, but we'll see what happens.
Seriously, we're going to do an interview with you a little bit later.
And how are you doing, young lady?
unidentified
Well, you know what?
I just want to say that all you Trump supporters are a bunch of racist, xenophobic rednecks.
alex jones
I've never heard that before.
unidentified
Hmm, really?
alex jones
I noticed that you've got some underarm hair.
unidentified
You need to address me by my proper pronoun, okay?
Because you can't call me he or she.
millie weaver
I want to be called Z. So if you don't call me Z, then you're going to watch out and see what happens.
alex jones
Why don't we just call you something like sweetheart?
unidentified
Nope.
millie weaver
Um, excuse me, but that is extremely racist and bigoted to call me sweetheart.
alex jones
How about cupcake?
millie weaver
I identify as a multisexual, trans-dimensional, binary being.
dan friesen
He brought back the cupcake.
That seems to be his go-to.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I'm...
dan friesen
So there was no laughs in there, first of all.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Just as, like, critiquing human.
jordan holmes
I mean, first off...
Yes, and was thrown away out of this.
dan friesen
No, it was.
jordan holmes
This is entirely no but.
dan friesen
No, it wasn't even no but.
It was kathunk.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
It was just somebody said something, and then no response.
dan friesen
Respond to something else.
Start in just a totally unrelated sentence.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Or, like, ask me a question.
jordan holmes
Dan.
dan friesen
I'll be Rainbow Snitch.
jordan holmes
Okay, Dan.
dan friesen
I'll do my impression of what just happened.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
Rainbow Snitch, how do you feel about liberals?
dan friesen
Mmm.
jordan holmes
Good points.
dan friesen
It's terrible.
It goes on so long, too.
jordan holmes
I can't believe...
I just...
dan friesen
I have to think that when they were doing it, they were like, we're fucking nailing this.
Like, because you watch Alex Jones' face, and he's just like, he looks like the cat that ate the canary.
jordan holmes
He is...
dan friesen
He's so thrilled!
jordan holmes
He is not selling it well.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
If he actually heard that he was racist and xenophobic, the...
This hour-long rant that he would go on would be astonishing.
And it would be very racist and xenophobic.
dan friesen
Yeah, but then he'd be like, don't paint me with that brush.
Anyway, I texted you about this when I was watching it, and I want to reiterate this theory just in case something comes out down the line.
I think he's fucking this girl.
jordan holmes
You think he's fucking this girl?
dan friesen
I can't think of any other reason he would let this on his show.
It's so bad.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Maybe he just wants to fuck this girl.
dan friesen
That could be it, too.
jordan holmes
I would go with the former.
dan friesen
It could be a beginning of American Beauty thing as opposed to the end of American Beauty thing.
jordan holmes
So we're saying that he's masturbating in the shower a lot.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that's probably it.
jordan holmes
I think that's probably true.
dan friesen
It's so tonally different than anything he does.
No!
There has to be a reason for it.
jordan holmes
That's batshit.
dan friesen
That's the only thing I can think of.
Hot young girl comes in.
jordan holmes
Also, she said transdimensional, which, if I were him in this scene, he would be like, well, that's the first thing that you've said that makes a goddamn lick of sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's so bad.
It goes on forever.
And then he talks to Jerome Corsi about a bunch of bullshit.
Then he has an interview later with the Motor City Madman.
And it's just fucking nonsense.
I didn't pull any clips of it because you can just assume what he says.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He was like, hunting is great.
jordan holmes
I love guns.
I also love guns.
Your voice sounds like mine.
I like how your voice sounds.
dan friesen
I like to read a couple of Ted Nugent quotes just to remind everybody why he should not be in the Senate, even though we joked it would be fine.
jordan holmes
Even though I have already established my position of put all 80s rock stars in the Senate.
dan friesen
What's a feminist anyways?
A fat pig who doesn't get it often enough.
unidentified
Bleh.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Bleh.
When he was interviewed in 1990, he said this about South Africa.
Me being there isn't going to affect any political structure.
Besides, apartheid isn't that cut and dry.
All men are not created equal.
Whoa.
jordan holmes
Well, you know what?
Here's what I will say.
All men are not created.
We evolved.
And I'm done.
dan friesen
Here's another one that's a little bit harder to defend.
I used the word N-word, but not censored.
jordan holmes
I don't think he said the N-word at all.
dan friesen
No, he said the one, the real word.
jordan holmes
I used the word N. This is where we cut out the part where we go on a 20-minute...
If you're quoting something, is it okay to then say the N-word?
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm not gonna walk that line right now.
I use the word N a lot because I hang out with a lot of Ns, and they use the word N, and I tend to use the words that communicate.
unidentified
Boo!
jordan holmes
That's just a poorly constructed sentence.
dan friesen
He also said that Barack Obama's a piece of shit and he should suck his machine gun.
Kiss my ass.
Anyway.
So that sort of brings us...
jordan holmes
I mean, he did write Cat Scratch Fever, so you gotta give him that.
dan friesen
And Stranglehold's a pretty good song.
jordan holmes
It's not bad.
dan friesen
Wang Dang Sweet Poontang.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I'm starting to think that not all rockers are morally upright people.
dan friesen
Wango Tango?
jordan holmes
Man knows how to name shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Now, if you named a song Agenda 21, that's a bad name.
It's a bad name.
dan friesen
Yeah, even for a song.
Even for a song!
Okay, anyway, let's not talk more about Nugent.
Now it's time to get into...
unidentified
Tuesday.
dan friesen
February 21st.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
The Milo news has broken.
dan friesen
The Milo news has broken.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The New York Times story has come out.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
And boy, is the world looking different.
I'm just going to play this clip.
You can see what the consequences of life are.
alex jones
You know, I knew what the New York Times was doing when they wanted to do this profile piece on Infowars.
They'd attack me probably, I don't know, five, six times in big...
I read some of the other articles he'd written calling for shutting down fake news by any means necessary.
And I realized that he was basically writing a blueprint for how the system could come after us.
They were asking how we make our money, how we fund ourselves, things like that.
But still, I knew it would be in the paper physical edition of the New York Times, and so it could reach some people that aren't normally on the internet who could actually be woken up.
jordan holmes
So he is so delusional that he genuinely believed when they said they want to shut down fake news, he meant everybody but him.
Or everybody but him and Breitbart and the like.
dan friesen
I don't understand the question as phrased.
jordan holmes
So what was going on there is the reason that he accepted the interview is because they were talking and they said, we have a goal of shutting down fake news.
So he accepted the interview because he's like, finally, they're going to shut down fake news without any self-awareness that he himself...
Is the entirety of fake news for them.
dan friesen
I have a little theory that I have no basis.
I have no facts about this.
jordan holmes
All right.
Let's speculate wildly.
dan friesen
I have a little theory.
He said that Roger Stone told him that this could work out okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah, halfway fair.
dan friesen
I think that Roger Stone might have set a trap.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Damn it.
Now, I don't think- This is false flag!
dan friesen
It is.
I think.
Now, I don't think Roger Stone was trying to hurt Alex.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But what I think he was doing was trying to create negative press for Alex so Alex can play the victim.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That is what I think he was doing.
jordan holmes
God, we are two levels deep now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Or- How many levels deep are we?
dan friesen
Or- Alex is an idiot.
jordan holmes
Let's go through.
I'm gonna go.
I'm gonna go.
With Alex as an idiot.
dan friesen
Now, I'm going to finish this clip up.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Put the mic away from your face.
jordan holmes
Done.
dan friesen
Because this might elicit a scream.
alex jones
And so I did the interview.
We got contacted this morning by our big third-party advertising group that brings in a large portion of our funding selling our products, and they said, you are fake news, you are political.
They said, that's banned.
And you are kicked off of our system for good.
Now, that's like Nazi Germany telling the Jews, you've got to go to your ghetto.
You can't have businesses anymore anywhere in these areas of the city.
That drudge came here a year and a half ago.
Only interview he's done in like four years.
And I think it's time for one again.
And he said, I was told by Supreme Court Justice, they're coming after free speech.
They're coming after it in 2016, towards the end of the year.
We're in 2017, and I have congressmen on television saying that Trump should have his free speech banned and that they want a law passed to ban Trump's speech.
dan friesen
They play that clip.
It's not what that guy is saying at all.
jordan holmes
Trump should have his free speech banned.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
That's...
dan friesen
They played a clip from a senator.
jordan holmes
Can you ban the president's free speech?
dan friesen
I don't think so.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with...
Let's go with yeah.
Why not?
If the Supreme Court is saying that they're going to go after Drudge's free speech, and they gave him a hard date, which is something I don't know if the Supreme Court has ever done before.
dan friesen
And I have to assume that was Scalia, too.
You have to assume.
jordan holmes
Do you mean the ghost of Scalia?
Because it happened last year.
dan friesen
A year and a half ago.
Two years.
jordan holmes
So Scalia is warning him?
dan friesen
Yeah, that's why he got killed.
That's why he got murdered at that lodge.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
That's the narrative Alex would tell you.
jordan holmes
Holy fuck.
We're going deep.
This is deep state shit right here.
dan friesen
Dude, they had their fucking sponsor taken away.
jordan holmes
Wait, but does he say who the sponsor is?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's Adderall.
It's Google Ads.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
It's not really even a sponsor.
jordan holmes
No!
That's not a sponsor at all!
I was thinking it was some kind of...
Dr. Wallach?
See, I was thinking it was our secret backer who has finally decided no more secret backing.
dan friesen
That's what I hoped immediately when he said it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But it's not.
It's ad roll.
jordan holmes
It's just ad roll?
dan friesen
Ad roll.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But it's a very serious deal.
jordan holmes
How much money do you think he loses?
dan friesen
He does get into that a little bit later.
unidentified
Sweet.
dan friesen
So let's finish this clip.
I apologize.
You can't talk at all because I had to turn this...
Look, I don't know why.
This clip is playing real low.
So I had to compensate it.
alex jones
Also hear them saying ban him off Twitter and now they don't let positive comments get up in his Twitter feed so he can't read those and interact with the public because he interacts with the public.
dan friesen
Again, that's that Twitter is being gamed against the president.
jordan holmes
The president is also on the 1960s switchboard.
dan friesen
Yes.
I also forgot, I was explaining that the clip that they end up, that he's talking about, about the guy wanting to, a senator wanting to get rid of Trump's free speech, is this guy talking about how the tradition of the phrase enemy of the people has a distinct lineage to it.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And Trump needs to be careful when he uses terms that have traditions that go back to Stalin.
Those sorts of things.
Especially when you're talking about the press.
jordan holmes
So, at the very least, what the senator was saying is, don't say things fascist dictators have said.
If you're going to act like a fascist dictator, not much we can do.
Good idea not to say it, though.
dan friesen
Really, if you distill it down, the message is more, be cool.
It's not stopping it.
It's, hey, be cool, be cool.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I would vote for any senator who goes on TV and is just like, dude, chill out.
unidentified
Chill.
jordan holmes
And that's the end of the interview.
dan friesen
Smoke a blil and chill.
jordan holmes
Yeah, come on, man.
dan friesen
Anyway, here you go.
alex jones
That's why we should elect the news.
Randomly and talk to the public.
He loves it.
So that his dad, and he always did, and the rest of his family.
So Jerry Nadler's gone on CNN and said it's time to ban Donald Trump.
From being able to, quote, criticize the media.
Whoa!
Look, they're the fake news.
They're the collapsing news.
Their revenue, their viewers, they know it.
And so their answer is, get a bunch of foreign Mexican kingpin money to come in and, you know, run the New York Times.
And if that doesn't do it, just shut down InfoWars.
Shut down Donald Trump.
This is a big deal.
Reddit is banning sharing Donald Trump information.
This is a...
War, they're heating up against us, and there's ways to stop them.
There's ways to defeat them, but we have to codify it, we have to document it, we have to expose it, we have to sue people, we have to get really aggressive, and you, the viewers, have to understand it's a total war, and spread the links and the articles even more, and buy the products directly from us.
dan friesen
Now at the end there...
jordan holmes
That turned into an ad!
dan friesen
The whole show does.
jordan holmes
He's so good.
dan friesen
The whole episode becomes an extended, I'm gonna sue everybody and buy our products.
jordan holmes
So somebody criticized him.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And he is going to sue them.
dan friesen
I actually took a screenshot.
jordan holmes
Which means he is technically correct.
unidentified
Cupcakes do sue people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Snowflakes are litigious.
dan friesen
I took a screenshot of the...
The supposed letter that he got from the AdRoll people?
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
And if you want to take a look at this, this doesn't look like any letter you'd get in an official capacity.
I mean, look at that header.
There's no way that header...
jordan holmes
Letter suspending Infowars for support of Donald J. Trump from major advertising platforms.
That's the fakest shit I've ever seen in my entire life.
dan friesen
It's very unofficial.
It looks like something that was made on terrible MS Word or whatever.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not even that.
It was WordPad.
dan friesen
I'll just read the entire thing.
I apologize for the lack of communication here prior to pausing campaigns.
InfoWars has been flagged by the AdRoll policy team, and as a result, campaigns suspended.
In an effort to protect the privacy of our site vendors, our partner ad networks as well as the National Advertising Initiative have strict policies that prohibit...
Retargeting user segments based off potentially sensitive information.
All content on your website should be relevant, accurate, informative, and up to date.
Any claims should be easily verifiable.
We are not able to promote websites that intentionally misrepresent their business or use any tactic to falsely enhance reputation or misdirect actual offerings.
Furthermore, all political content should focus on the merits of the candidate and political messaging should not target special interest groups.
Special interests or groups or imply affiliation.
That last part is what he does not understand.
jordan holmes
No.
Here is the other thing.
Just looked up the National Advertising Initiative.
It is a set of self-regulatory principles which NAI members must agree to uphold in order to be members.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
I don't think he has to do that.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I don't think there's any self-regulation at all.
dan friesen
Well, I don't know about any of that.
I don't know if he's lying about stuff or what.
But that letter is fake as fuck.
jordan holmes
That letter is fake as fuck.
dan friesen
But even if it is just like a copy and paste job so they can add that header on, which I think is possible.
Because there's no way they got a letter that said, we're banning you because you support Donald J. Trump.
There's not a fucking chance of that.
jordan holmes
It was all in Times New Roman.
Instead of what we know that...
The NAI uses Comic Sans.
We all know that they only...
dan friesen
They're goofy.
jordan holmes
I would love to get a cease and desist in Comic Sans.
I would totally cease and desist.
dan friesen
Or wingdings.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, yes!
dan friesen
So, the part there, the...
jordan holmes
Cuneiform.
dan friesen
Any political content, you know, dot, dot, dot, cannot apply affiliation.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's important.
Because he is essentially a wing of the Trump campaign.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And especially now that Trump is doing campaign rallies again.
jordan holmes
Which is bananas.
dan friesen
And Alex Jones talks constantly about how he talks to Trump.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And that article in the New York Times explicitly laid out him bragging about talking to Trump.
jordan holmes
Correct.
dan friesen
He can no longer imply that he is not affiliated with Trump.
Adderall, according to the document that he showed, has every right not to allow...
jordan holmes
If that document was real.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
And if that regulation was real.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
I don't think that regulation's real.
dan friesen
I don't know, but we're just, we have to, you know, you have to dance with the one that brought you.
jordan holmes
We gotta talk about the actual fake letter instead of the actual real world.
dan friesen
We don't know enough about the advertising contracts that are signed.
We can only go on what he's provided, and based on what he's provided...
He doesn't understand the letter that he puts on screen.
jordan holmes
Do they have a contract with that rule?
dan friesen
I mean, they must.
jordan holmes
Oh, you think so?
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
I mean, so basically what happens is you have cookies in your computer and they track you.
And so if you go to Infowars...
jordan holmes
Chocolate chip.
dan friesen
White chocolate chip.
jordan holmes
The subway chocolate chip.
dan friesen
If you go to Infowars.com, you'll see a bunch of their weird super male vitality caveman ads on the site.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Then, you start going to other websites, you'll start seeing Infowars ads on those other sites.
That's how adware works, essentially.
Yes.
This service works.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
They have a bunch of spaces on tons of websites that they have affiliates.
It's this really weird system.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But because you've gone to their site, To Infowars, you'll now start seeing their ads.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's gonna pop up.
dan friesen
This is what's been taken away from him.
Nothing else.
jordan holmes
Aww.
dan friesen
No one is censoring him.
No one's taking away his free speech.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
They're just saying, you are now a wing of the Trump administration, and you can't use our service.
Which is fair.
jordan holmes
It is fair.
dan friesen
I do not stand up for him on the grounds of free speech.
jordan holmes
But also, I think he's pretty much fine.
I don't think they can even really do that.
dan friesen
You think he's fine?
jordan holmes
I mean, with Citizens United, as long as he doesn't...
Actually, I'm not even going to pretend I know what I'm talking about.
dan friesen
I can tell you this.
jordan holmes
They probably didn't do it because it's a fake letter and he gets to play the victim.
But maybe they did do it, and I don't know why, but fuck him.
dan friesen
You know what, though, man?
You're playing fast and loose, and what you need to realize is there's real consequences for Alex, which he spells out in this clip.
jordan holmes
I would hate that.
alex jones
In Trump's volleys, echoes of Alex Jones' conspiracy theories, the message that wasn't, and a turning point for fake news.
This is all the New York Times coming out in the article saying it's time to restrict fake news.
And a day after the New York Times comes out and says that, Alex Jones has $3.3 million of funding.
That's what happened last year with Admiral, projected into next year.
More than that, pulled so we can't start a Washington bureau, so that we can't hire more crew, so that we can't fight harder and expose these liars.
When Nancy Pelosi gets up and says George W. Bush is still the president, and the same press conference Maxine Waters is so out of her mind she thinks Russia attacked Korea.
dan friesen
He's still talking about that clip.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
But do you get that?
$3.3 million.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he just threw that number out, and that sounds...
Like, that's a real number.
alex jones
I think it's a real number.
jordan holmes
I think that's a real number.
dan friesen
He lost $3.3 million this morning.
jordan holmes
Fuck!
That's a good day for all of us.
dan friesen
Can you imagine how fucking excited I was at work?
jordan holmes
Yeah, you just jerked off.
I see your face.
You're jerking off right now.
dan friesen
I hate to engage in schadenfreude, but the reality is he's one of the worst people in the world.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And this is not encroaching on his free speech.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
This is a business saying...
Well, you are no longer within the terms of our service.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So, you're gone.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Now, he can paint it as, they targeted me because of my affiliations and I'm a libertarian and blah, blah, blah.
But no.
I mean, unless one of the implied essential pieces of you being a libertarian is that you violate their service contract.
And then if it is, yeah, sure.
Okay.
jordan holmes
You know what he needs to do?
dan friesen
What's that?
jordan holmes
Get some of that foreign Mexico king money.
dan friesen
Some of that Carlos Slim money?
jordan holmes
Oh, that's what you gotta do.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he goes on.
jordan holmes
You gotta find your own foreign Mexico king.
dan friesen
The rest of this episode legitimately is him screaming about needing money.
unidentified
Yes!
dan friesen
Doing tons of interviews because he can't handle filling time talking about news.
So he has Jerome Corsi in Washington.
jordan holmes
He's full on losing his shit.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's broke.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's fucking broke.
dan friesen
He might not have an angel investor.
jordan holmes
Holy fuck!
dan friesen
Now, actually, I think there's two possibilities.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Which we'll get to.
I'll spell out some theories as we go along.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
But I want to be clear.
Jerome Corsi is out in Washington, D.C., and it really feels like he's pulling whoever is in the hall in to do an interview.
Because he gets a former guy who was in the Senate.
To come in there and talk about how he's going to spill dirt on the Clintons.
jordan holmes
Just a guy who was in the Senate.
Not even a senator, just a guy who was hanging out.
dan friesen
He's an aide?
No, he keeps saying he was the vice chair of the subcommittee.
He doesn't really specify.
jordan holmes
Don't you have to be a senator to be the vice chair?
dan friesen
He was a senator.
He was an ex-senator.
jordan holmes
Okay, what's his name?
dan friesen
I don't remember.
jordan holmes
Ah, I want to know his name.
dan friesen
No, I don't remember.
He might mention it again.
But then he gets the guy who published Roger Stone's book to have an interview, and it's all just such ass-in-tongue shit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's insane.
They're all just like, you're being fucked, Alex.
jordan holmes
They're all panicking.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They just lost $3.3 million.
dan friesen
Big time.
jordan holmes
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's fucking great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this next clip is a really impassioned sales pitch.
jordan holmes
What are they going to do?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
They need that money.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That's $3.3 million gone from a budget.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know, one of the things that I'm...
jordan holmes
I'm starting to think Rainbow Snatch is not going to be around for long.
I don't think they can afford Rainbow Snatch.
dan friesen
They can't afford that wig?
jordan holmes
Nuh-uh!
dan friesen
One of the things that I think is implied in Alex's panic, because he's just pitching the entire show, is that I think he knows that a lot of the traffic that he gets to his website and a lot of the traffic that he gets are bots.
Like, I think he knows that, so he knows that there's a very limited base that he has to work from.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That's kind of a feeling that I get.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Because he's in, it's desperation mode.
jordan holmes
I...
Okay.
Here's my theory.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
He's gonna be fine?
dan friesen
Yeah, I know.
jordan holmes
Russia.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
There's going to be an investor from Russia.
dan friesen
Alexander Dugan's gonna give him a little call.
jordan holmes
The Dug's got it down!
dan friesen
This might be the best news ever for Russia.
jordan holmes
Yeah, now they fully own him.
dan friesen
Our eyes both just got wide.
Did you just have the same thought I did?
jordan holmes
I want to hear yours first.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Do you want to say it at the same time?
dan friesen
Russia used Roger Stone to set up that New York Times article.
jordan holmes
Oh, yes!
dan friesen
The New York Times article ended up putting Alex Jones in the hopper.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And now his funding has fallen out.
He needs funding.
Russia comes in, invests in him.
He is over a fucking barrel.
jordan holmes
Wow.
God damn it.
dan friesen
We're war games in this thing.
jordan holmes
This is amazing.
If that's not what happened, Russia should hire us.
That's what I'm saying.
There are two things that we need to do right now.
One, we need to be on MSNBC as Alex Jones experts.
dan friesen
Undoubtedly.
jordan holmes
Two, we need to do some serious consulting for Russia on how they need to proceed with this whole Alex Jones situation.
dan friesen
Now, that scenario I just laid out is one possibility.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I'm going to give you a second one.
Alex is a fucking idiot.
He's a horrible bigot, and the people who work at AdSense or whatever, I don't remember the name of the company, AdRoll, people who work there are like, is there any way we can not fuck with this guy anymore?
And they're like, oh shit, he's in breach of our contract.
Let's get him out of here.
jordan holmes
Awesome.
dan friesen
That's entirely possible, too.
jordan holmes
Also, AdRoll needs to get letterhead.
Seriously.
If they're sending that letter the way it's sent, no.
Get a letterhead.
Be a business, AdRoll.
What are you doing?
dan friesen
So anyway, here's this clip.
It's a fucking intense sales pitch that pivots.
Now, normally what we see is him talking about something very serious, and that pivots into a commercial.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
In this case, he's doing an ad, and then it pivots into a conspiracy theory about what happened to Milo the night before.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
alex jones
But please, put it in your calendar, your digital calendar.
Put it on your physical calendar to every month support InfoWars, to get a Hillary for prison 2017 shirt, to get a Bill Clinton rape shirt.
You know, they're saying, oh, we're mean, so we're not allowed to advertise our show.
jordan holmes
Get a Bill Clinton rape shirt?
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm shocked that you didn't react to that more immediately.
jordan holmes
Get a Bill Clinton rape shirt.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Does that...
Let's go through all the ways that that could be taken.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Is it a shirt?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That says, Bill Clinton raped people?
dan friesen
Well, yeah, that's what it implies.
jordan holmes
Is it a shirt that says, you should rape Bill Clinton?
Is a shirt...
That says that Bill Clinton, comma, rape?
Question mark.
dan friesen
It's a shirt with Bill Clinton raping a shirt on.
jordan holmes
But it is.
It is a full, it's like the mirror room where it's just a shirt of Bill Clinton raping a shirt of a shirt of Bill Clinton raping a shirt.
dan friesen
What it is is that Shepard Fairey Obama Hope shirt, but with rape.
jordan holmes
That's, really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Do you not know about...
jordan holmes
That's not a, that's...
dan friesen
Do you not know about Alex Jones' whole campaign?
jordan holmes
If that weren't really, really hateful, that's kind of a funny idea.
dan friesen
Do you not know about his whole campaign where he was telling people that if you got on the news, like if you photobombed the news and yelled Bill Clinton is a rapist and said Infowars.com, he would give you $5,000?
jordan holmes
He actually said that?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh my, I need $5,000!
dan friesen
So people started doing it.
jordan holmes
No shit!
dan friesen
Yeah, so a couple people got on the news.
jordan holmes
He just lost $3.3 million!
How is he going to be able to pay that shit?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, I'm sure, I hope he's already paid those people out.
But yeah, he, um...
jordan holmes
Alright, looking up the AdRoll situation, none of what he has said is on AdRoll.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
I mean, all of the stuff that they emailed him, it is completely mentioned that...
dan friesen
Like the terms of service?
jordan holmes
Yeah, none of that is on AdRoll.
So, it is an interesting...
Is it...
Is this all a secret game plan to sell more shit?
unidentified
It could be.
jordan holmes
Does he just have...
Is he just overstocked?
dan friesen
It could be.
It could be having a fire sale.
The thing is...
jordan holmes
Because if you're going to have a going out of business sale and you're Alex Jones, fucking make up a life.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
So he's not ordering another shipment.
Uh-uh.
jordan holmes
Caveman?
Not a big seller.
dan friesen
Oh, you know what I also discovered recently?
You know how there are those companies...
jordan holmes
That your bones can be turned into pills?
dan friesen
I did discover that recently.
You know how there are those companies where you're supposed to order the product and sell it to your friends?
jordan holmes
Those pyramid schemes?
Multi-level marketing schemes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Multi-level pyramid marketing schemes.
dan friesen
InfoWars has one of those, too.
jordan holmes
Oh, really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Holy fuck.
dan friesen
Can we do that?
No.
We absolutely can't.
Although we should.
Caveman's a great product.
Hey, everybody out there listening, I hope you enjoyed the podcast, but really...
jordan holmes
I can't begin to tell you how great my bones have become now that I'm eating other bones.
dan friesen
Ah, just bones on bones.
jordan holmes
My bones are double bones now.
dan friesen
But, okay, so just to poke holes a tiny bit in your theory that maybe this is all, like, a facade or fake, listen to the intensity of his sales pitch.
alex jones
Topping cart.
With Make America Free Again Hatch.
And Made America Apparel.
Like, come and take it.
They're the ones on every major platform saying, kill the president, have civil war, beating people up that go to demonstrations to support the president.
I want to say something about Milo.
I'm going to get into this later.
Milo made his comments about being sexually abused when he was, quote, a boy or a teenager.
And CPAC invited him knowing that so they could disinvite him and have a big stunt to begin All of these amazing attempted takedowns of civilization and society.
jordan holmes
Now we're against CPAC.
alex jones
And that's what they're doing.
They're trying to set the precedent with bullying.
jordan holmes
Holy shit.
alex jones
To take down all the different groups and organizations that are actually defending our republic.
jordan holmes
Now, now...
Between the two of us, we're just trading conspiracy theories with Alex Jones' clips.
dan friesen
So what's your theory on this one?
jordan holmes
I have no theory on this one.
I'm talking about how the last time we ended, or the last three clips we ended, we immediately went into conspiracy theories.
And then he immediately goes into conspiracy theories.
dan friesen
This shit is getting so crazy now.
jordan holmes
CPAC sent the invitation.
Only to send the disinvitation.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
That was their plan the whole time.
dan friesen
That's what Alex thinks.
jordan holmes
Goddammit, I love this.
dan friesen
Now, to be fair, Alex Jones is not a man who would defend CPAC in any other way.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Like, he would be against them as establishment and the Soros Republicans, or something like that.
jordan holmes
That's, alright.
Alright.
dan friesen
So he would say that they're the enemy as well.
Right.
jordan holmes
CPAC is rich fuckers, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And it's Republican.
So the idea that he's making them out to be villains isn't too wild, but the idea that they would invite Milo just to uninvite him in order to discredit him as the opening salvo in the takedown of the right-wing wacky news, which he claims is the takedown of civilization.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's insane.
jordan holmes
That's pretty insane.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a long game right there.
They played a long-ass game.
dan friesen
A more likely game is they were like, oh, fuck, Milo's hot as shit right now.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck, Milo's a pedophile right now.
dan friesen
Oh, we blew it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, I can't imagine how shitty Bill Maher must feel.
Maybe not at all.
He's an asshole.
jordan holmes
No, he doesn't give a shit.
He got better ratings and he got more publicity.
Who gives a...
He doesn't give a fuck.
dan friesen
He's probably disappointed that he didn't have him on after.
jordan holmes
I know!
I bet he was thinking the next day he was like, fuck!
I nearly missed out on the best scoop of my fucking life.
dan friesen
And my ratings would have been through the fucking roof.
jordan holmes
Through the fucking roof.
Everybody would have hate-watched the shit out of that show.
I would have been unable to avoid clips of that show today.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Of people condemning Bill Maher.
Oh, it turns out he's an idiot opportunist like we all fucking knew he was from the very beginning.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fuck that guy.
jordan holmes
Sad.
Sad.
dan friesen
So, this next clip, he rambles a bit where he actually sort of admits that it's cool if Russia infiltrates our government as long as bad people are in charge, which is weird.
And then he gets into another impassioned sales pitch that involves some praying.
alex jones
And the fact that you put so hard is the reason...
People like Kurt Weldon, who knows all the secrets, folks.
Highest level.
Head of the committee.
dan friesen
That's the senator he was talking about, Kurt Weldon.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Kurt Weldon.
dan friesen
Head of the committee.
jordan holmes
Head of the committee.
He was not head of the committee.
dan friesen
He was vice chair of something, but again, Alex doesn't...
He plays fast and loose with the details.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But he knows all about China.
jordan holmes
Well, he's hopped up on that male vitality right now.
dan friesen
Super male vitality.
jordan holmes
Only way he's going to get through this.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
alex jones
Vice chair of Homeland Security.
Vice Chair of Armed Services Committee?
He knows everything about the Clintons and the Chinese.
That's the big one.
The Russians are, and it's not anti-Russian to expose this, but if they want to sit there, of course Russia infiltrated our government because we had traitors in it.
Russia did its job.
jordan holmes
Whoa, whoa, whoa, what?
alex jones
The point is they respect Trump because they know the globalists can't buy him.
You know about it.
They're attacking his family.
He is the most beautifully pig-headed.
Person I've ever seen.
And so here's the bottom line.
jordan holmes
Wait, whoa, wait.
Did he just say it was fine if Russia infiltrated our government?
dan friesen
That's their job.
jordan holmes
I think he just said it was fine if Russia infiltrated our government.
dan friesen
Because they had Obama in there.
jordan holmes
Which is basically admitting...
That Russia infiltrated our government.
dan friesen
It's not basically admitting it.
jordan holmes
He just said that Russia infiltrated our government.
dan friesen
And he's cool with it.
jordan holmes
Isn't that bad?
dan friesen
But it's fine now because they respect Trump.
jordan holmes
Aren't they at the very least supposed to pretend that Russia didn't infiltrate our government?
He's losing it.
Isn't that the party line?
dan friesen
He lost 3.3 million dollars.
jordan holmes
He lost 3.3 million.
He's given up all the secrets now.
dan friesen
That's the big part of why I am so tickled.
jordan holmes
Is he trying to extort Trump now?
Is he going to give up all of the bullshit that he knows?
dan friesen
I think he's trying to entice the Russian investors that we were talking about.
We were speculating about earlier.
Hey, it's cool if they infiltrated the government because now they respect Trump.
It's totally fine.
jordan holmes
I mean, he can say that.
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
He can say that it's cool.
unidentified
Wow, that's fucking nuts.
dan friesen
He can say it, but I think him saying it will only make the case against him much stronger.
Whenever people are like...
jordan holmes
I think it makes the case against Trump so much stronger.
dan friesen
He talks to him on the phone a bunch.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I think that basically means that Trump has told him...
dan friesen
Russians have infiltrated our government.
jordan holmes
Russians have infiltrated our government.
Or at the very least...
dan friesen
That's an assumption.
jordan holmes
Or at the very least, Trump has told him like, Hey man, I got all these Russian contracts.
dan friesen
What's great is they respect me.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
They're the only ones left.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Also...
jordan holmes
And they don't.
dan friesen
Also, if we take the letter that he got from AdRoll seriously, Him saying that Trump is the most beautiful pig-headed man he's ever seen, this might be why you're in trouble.
jordan holmes
I, again, don't think that's a compliment.
dan friesen
Pig-headed's kind of like, it's like stubborn, it's in that sort of ballpark.
jordan holmes
I kind of understand that, but again, he's a beautiful pig-headed man?
Pig-headed man?
dan friesen
It's on the cusp.
jordan holmes
That's not a good, I don't, if you said I was a beautiful pig-headed man, that would not make me feel better.
dan friesen
But it also isn't within your character.
So, I would never describe you that way.
You're an ugly pig-headed man.
jordan holmes
Yes!
Flipped it!
Easy targets!
dan friesen
Alright, here, you ready to buy some product?
jordan holmes
I am so ready.
alex jones
Dr. Corsi's on fire.
He's had three number one New York Times best-selling lists.
He worked at the highest levels with the State Department.
dan friesen
He also was the guy who was behind the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth campaign that was fake news!
jordan holmes
Fake news!
dan friesen
So...
Fuck him.
alex jones
Banking and work with Trump?
Why?
dan friesen
Oh, he also wrote a book about how Obama's birth certificate wasn't real.
Great!
unidentified
Fake news!
jordan holmes
New York Times bestseller.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know what?
Everything that's been a lie has been a bestseller.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
A Million Little Pieces is a bestseller.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It doesn't matter if you get a bestseller and you're a wildly discredited individual.
If you're just shown publicly definitively to be a liar and a propagandist.
I don't care about your accomplishments anymore.
jordan holmes
Uh, no.
I mean, but also, like, good for you.
I haven't written a New York Times bestseller.
dan friesen
No, he's moved some products.
unidentified
I'm proud.
jordan holmes
I should lie.
dan friesen
Yeah, we gotta start lying.
jordan holmes
We gotta write a New York Times bestseller on how Caveman works.
alex jones
He at his age fighting so hard seven days a week.
dan friesen
Oh, he's like, why is he at his age fighting so hard?
And then he shows on the screen Jerome Corsi's fat, bloated fucking head.
And he's just sitting there like...
Like, he wants to talk and Alex won't let him talk.
jordan holmes
Wait, he's actually on?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Jerome Corsi is on right now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And Alex Jones is just talking as this dude is bummed out.
dan friesen
Yeah, won't let him talk.
He's like, why do you think at his age he's still doing this?
The reason is because he's been discredited by every other organization.
He can't get work anywhere else.
jordan holmes
He's probably broke as fuck.
unidentified
Yeah, and listen.
No one would touch him.
jordan holmes
In so many ways.
dan friesen
They complain about not getting White House credentials in another part of this episode.
And, first of all, they were really talking a big game about how they were going to get them before.
jordan holmes
They really were.
dan friesen
And in this episode, Jerome Corsi's like, you know, they're just stymoning up the process and they won't give me these credentials.
There's no reason they shouldn't give me these credentials.
jordan holmes
Meaning they're never going to give them those credentials.
dan friesen
There's plenty of reasons not to give you those credentials.
jordan holmes
So many.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Although I would like to see some...
I would love to see some Alex Jones questions in the press corps.
dan friesen
Have you tried caveman?
jordan holmes
Excuse me, Mr. Trump.
What are you going to do about the 11th dimensional beings?
dan friesen
That's way too tight.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
The question would take five minutes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it would be both, what are you going to do about these 11th dimensional beings?
Have you considered trying wearing a Bill Clinton rape shirt?
dan friesen
Would you also have missed us?
He would be like, I'm not going to ask this question.
All right, I'm going to ask this question.
jordan holmes
That's true.
You're right.
You're right.
I missed out.
I had a real opportunity there.
dan friesen
I also think he never lets Jerome talk in this clip.
alex jones
Because he realizes, folks, we're in crisis, and we're starting to get a little bit of the initiative back, but we're still not winning.
jordan holmes
Not anymore.
alex jones
And listen, spread the article, spread the video, spread the link, spread them like your life depends on it, because it does.
jordan holmes
Because your life depends on it, Alex Jones.
alex jones
Buy our products directly from InfoWarsStore.com, because that's all the money.
unidentified
If you look, basically, because I have a bunch of different things to help bring in money.
alex jones
And that is right at the money.
We have a little bit more that was in our budget for this year.
That was the money.
I told you, I'm not going to even take a profit this year because my children's future is everything.
It's not that money's bad.
The point is that all I want is to win.
And so I started expanding our operation 10 years ago when they tried to infiltrate us and shut us down when I had like 7 or 8 employees.
We're not going to shut me down.
I'm going to go to the next level.
We did it.
And now I pledge before God and His Son, Christ, my Lord and Savior, that I am going to turn every bit of my will completely over to this, and I pray for God's discernment and to lead God and direct me.
And I'm going to ask the listeners to pray with us and to flood us with capital so I'm not penny-pinching with Dr. Corsi hours the last week on how to get a little office in D.C. and worrying about the bills.
We shouldn't be worrying about the bills.
There should be just tsunamis of money coming in here.
And quite frankly, for media, it is tsunamis.
But for what we need to do, it's not enough, okay?
I need money to go out to these people.
jordan holmes
Oh, he fucking needs money!
dan friesen
This is pathetic.
jordan holmes
Ad roll.
Really did lose him $3.3 million.
There are no more conspiracy theories about that.
He is fucked.
dan friesen
I still think the letter is fake.
jordan holmes
He is going down.
He wrote the letter because the actual email was like, dude, fuck off.
dan friesen
No, the actual email probably had details he couldn't refute.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good point.
dan friesen
I imagine he couldn't spit it.
jordan holmes
No, he wrote that email.
Also, he definitely wrote that email.
dan friesen
Because I've forgotten already, but I believe that email...
The sign-off is just a first name.
It just says...
jordan holmes
It's actually just Adroll.
dan friesen
It just says, thanks, Caroline.
jordan holmes
Love...
dan friesen
There's no way.
jordan holmes
And all my best, Adroll.
dan friesen
There's no way that some...
jordan holmes
Caroline.
dan friesen
Any business, anybody who's in customer relations or anything like that has an email signature.
They have, like, a...
jordan holmes
At the very least, they would have a...
Phone number.
dan friesen
They have a boilerplate kind of thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But yes, you're right.
This is not fake.
jordan holmes
He has lost a shit ton of money.
dan friesen
The letter's fake.
Him being fucked is not.
jordan holmes
He is fucked.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is hilarious.
unidentified
Now.
jordan holmes
One, he's not going to stop doing the show.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
But we are going to see a skeleton crew of a man with an iPhone filming him.
dan friesen
Now.
jordan holmes
This is exciting.
dan friesen
Get this.
I have one theory, and that is that a bunch of rubes are going to send him a bunch of money.
So I think he's going to make a ton of money off this.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
The same way that, what, like, those fucking...
The people who refuse to bake a cake.
Got a shit ton of money that very same day.
Yeah, or Chick-fil-A.
dan friesen
Yeah, all of these things tend to work that way.
I think he realizes he has enough fucking idiots in his cult, and it's like, it's time to cull.
It's time to...
So I think he knows that I can get a lot of money out of these ding-dongs.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But then the second thing is, when this episode comes out, it's gonna be Wednesday.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He had already planned that he was gonna do a Reddit AMA.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
So that's already gonna be happening.
But he's decided to expand it into a 13-hour live broadcast.
jordan holmes
Oh my fucking god!
dan friesen
Telethon for free speech.
jordan holmes
Holy shit.
dan friesen
Because he's painting this as a free speech issue, and it is not.
jordan holmes
No!
It's very much not a free speech issue.
dan friesen
No!
jordan holmes
This is a...
Fucking, I'm broke issue.
dan friesen
This is a Alex Jones gets hoisted on his own propaganda petard issue.
This is insane.
jordan holmes
This is insane.
So anyway, he's not- But it is also insane to know that he was making an extra $3.3 million.
dan friesen
It's insane that he can continue to operate at all after losing $3.3 million.
jordan holmes
I assume that he didn't just- I assume they didn't take $3 million away from him that day.
dan friesen
The $3.3 million is- This is what he projected to make from it this year.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And it's only February, so he should.
He better fucking have a nest egg.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Yeah.
dan friesen
But do you understand why I'm so happy now?
We're about to enter a weird period for Alex.
jordan holmes
This is going to be a delight.
dan friesen
He might actually be fighting for his life.
jordan holmes
He's going to do the last hour from here on out.
dan friesen
He might have to.
jordan holmes
He's going to have to do the full four hours.
dan friesen
He's going to pay Rappaport.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How many people is...
Okay.
dan friesen
He doesn't pay Rappaport.
jordan holmes
Nobody pays Rappaport.
dan friesen
And no one puts him in the corner.
jordan holmes
Nope.
I was about to say that.
You son of a bitch.
dan friesen
No one puts Batman in the corner.
jordan holmes
Except for him, as long as it's a dark corner.
dan friesen
So I don't think I have a clip of this either.
jordan holmes
In some young woman's bedroom.
dan friesen
Alex was yelling about how I was going to add 25 more people around here.
Fuck it.
I'm adding 100.
I lost three million people.
I'm going to hire four times the amount of people.
He's like, I believe in God and providence.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, he's got Jesus on his side.
dan friesen
That argument makes me think that there is a secret investor.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Like, the confidence to hire more people in a downturn like this.
jordan holmes
He's not going to hire more people.
dan friesen
No, it is probably just bravado.
jordan holmes
He is going to hire zero more people now.
dan friesen
Anyway, this sales pitch goes on and it gets great.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
alex jones
And they are, people ask, the New York Times is like, we want your affiliate list.
We notice there's stations you don't list.
And I go, yeah, because I tell the network, don't list our affiliates.
unidentified
Because all sorts of stuff goes on.
alex jones
I'll leave it at that.
Not just boycotting, okay?
I mean, straight up mafia racketeering crap.
And our stations know it.
A lot of our stations have us on a little bit and get threatened.
They go, especially in the South, they go, go to hell.
He's on primetime now.
So it backfires a lot, too.
When you threaten station owners' families.
I mean, let's just get it out in the open, what we're dealing with here.
And I'll tell all the bullies and all the mafia scum this.
You want to fight?
You better believe you got one, okay?
So AdRoll blocks us off.
We've got other systems as well.
And they say, you are fake news.
You are not allowed to have free speech.
It says right here, in the email this morning, we were projected to be over 5 million this year with this program.
3.3 last year.
After expenses.
All content on your website should be relevant, they decide.
Accurate, informative, and up-to-date.
Any claims should be easily verifiable.
We are not able to promote websites that intentionally misrepresent.
No judge, no jury.
They just claim and just say, I'm worthless, I'm bad.
Their businesses or use any tactic to falsely enhance reputation or misrepresent actual offerings.
Really?
I mean, we have on third-party sites 4.9 reviews, tens of thousands of them.
I mean, we're just loved everywhere.
The president calls me.
I talk to them.
jordan holmes
President calls me.
dan friesen
You just accidentally said the thing that's the problem.
If that letter...
jordan holmes
No, I think the real thing that was the problem is that they wanted easily verifiable claims, and he has zero verifiable claims.
dan friesen
And if you go back and listen to the episodes that we've done already, we have verifiable evidence that he's a liar.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And consistently lies.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Everything is a lie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, even if he was a Trump campaign arm, as long as he was referencing verifiable facts, I think they would have been fine with it.
Because at this point, Fox News is fucking a Trump campaign arm.
dan friesen
No, but because of that sentence implies affiliation.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's important, and he never reads that from that letter.
Fox News, as much as they are like a propaganda wing, They don't pretend that they're friends with the president.
jordan holmes
I mean, they have...
What's his fuck?
Sean Hannity.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he still doesn't talk all the time on his show about how he calls Trump and shit like that.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Alex Jones has crossed a line in terms of what he's presenting.
jordan holmes
I also like the...
Do you think Trump calls him all the time?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Not all the time, but...
It seems like Trump calls him often enough.
dan friesen
Yeah, they probably talk a little bit, but then now...
jordan holmes
Trump calls him.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Probably at 2 a.m.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
In front of the switchboard.
And he's like, hey man, who should I talk to?
Do you have any listeners who are willing to call me at 2 in the morning?
dan friesen
You got Nugent's phone number?
jordan holmes
I bet Trump wants to meet Nugent all the time.
dan friesen
Oh yeah, that was the other thing during the Nugent interview that they kept talking about.
Alex was like, I mean, we're rebels.
We got rock and roller Ted Nugent here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, nobody more rebellious than 85-year-old Ted fucking Nugent.
dan friesen
With a weird fucking gray soul patch.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's always a good time for a gray soul patch.
dan friesen
Anyway, this isn't done.
alex jones
President, I got an award-winning journalist on.
I just had a former head of the Homeland Security Committee.
jordan holmes
What awards?
What awards?
dan friesen
New York Times bestseller, Jerome Corsi.
jordan holmes
That's not an award!
That's a fucking numerical response.
Nobody's giving him a BAFTA for Homeland.
dan friesen
He did have Seymour Hersh on.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Conspicuous in his absence of guests that he's listing is notorious social justice warrior Rainbow Snatch.
jordan holmes
Although, I would give her a comedy award.
unidentified
Can you believe that within a day, he's gone from that comedy segment into this panic.
dan friesen
This existential disaster.
jordan holmes
This is a crisis.
dan friesen
You know what?
I don't think they're unconnected.
jordan holmes
Adril saw Rainbow Snatch and was like, fuck this.
dan friesen
If God is real the way that Alex Jones thinks he is, this is punishment for that Rainbow Snatch.
Just for how bad a comedy it was.
jordan holmes
An eye for an eye.
alex jones
What the hell are you talking about?
We're changing the world.
We just put the president in.
You, the listeners and viewers, did.
And I know for a fact the other big news sites aren't contracting in viewership and readership.
I'm not going to say their names.
I love them.
They're all in trouble.
jordan holmes
Breitbart.
alex jones
Except for us and one other.
And I'm in talks with them to basically merge.
Because we've got to get big or be destroyed here, ladies and gentlemen.
jordan holmes
Holy shit.
alex jones
And they are cutting the money out.
And they won't even let Breitbart have an app, folks, after they paid for it years later.
The same stuff's happening to us.
So we just basically, imagine we're a ship.
We just got hit by, you know, a huge 50mm shell, okay?
So just understand, it's a big fire on the deck.
We're going to make it through this and get stronger.
But I don't want to spend all my time crawling around just trying to raise capital.
We need everybody to get products they need.
There's thousands of great items at Infowarsstore.com.
Go there.
Sign up for vitamins.
Sign up for minerals.
Sign up for supplements.
Sign up for auto shit.
And there may come a time when they shut all that down.
I'm going to be up here every day saying, you want to hear this show?
Send me a donation.
Because that's what this comes down to.
That's where this country is.
And that's where this world is.
I'm going back to Dr. Corsi here in a minute.
But I'm going to tell you right now.
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dan friesen
He doesn't talk to Jerome Corsi.
He just talks about colloidal silver for like five minutes.
jordan holmes
By the way, Breitbart has an app.
dan friesen
Yeah, they do.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So does InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
They haven't been censored from anything.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
It's all bullshit.
It's that same thing that he was saying.
It's like, oh, I was on Rogan.
It's the most popular podcast ever.
They took it down.
And then like...
You can just go and find it.
jordan holmes
It's there.
Yeah, they did not take that one down.
dan friesen
You can't Google search it.
Yes, you can.
jordan holmes
Easily.
You put it into Google.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Have you ever done a Google search?
You can do that.
dan friesen
Why do they call us fake news?
jordan holmes
Because you're lying.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And disseminating fake news.
Who are they merging with?
dan friesen
I think it's probably...
It can't be Breitbart because that would have weird conflicts with the White House.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I think it has to be Drudge.
jordan holmes
You think so?
dan friesen
Yeah, I think so.
jordan holmes
Okay.
But Drudge is just an aggregator, right?
dan friesen
Mostly, yeah.
There is some original content on there, but it is largely posting links to InfoWars and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
And then who's the other?
So then he mentioned one other who was taken off.
Breitbart was taken off AdRoll?
dan friesen
No, no, that wasn't what he was saying.
jordan holmes
So he mentioned a couple of names, and then he said AdRoll was coming after us and one other.
And he wouldn't mention the name.
dan friesen
I don't know.
But he's also saying that these people's audience aren't contracting, and he knows that.
jordan holmes
Right.
Which is the opposite of the narrative that he likes to spend.
dan friesen
But it's also because there's so much fake traffic.
Like, you can have millions of hits to your website a day, but if you look at the actual analytics of it, and you look at unique viewers, it's totally different.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
Like, if you go to their Quantcast, and you look at the numbers versus unique...
Visitors?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
And it's true of even when I had blogs.
jordan holmes
Well, you said that it was a third.
A third was fake, right?
dan friesen
No, that's Twitter followers.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's Twitter followers.
dan friesen
And it was like between 20% and a third.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't remember the exact number, but it's in there.
Because I don't remember which was Prison Planet and which was Alex Jones' personal Twitter.
Wow.
So, yeah, but that's just Twitter.
Right.
If you go to actual websites and the traffic that you're getting, you can set up bots to artificially inflate traffic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course.
dan friesen
And I have no doubt in my mind that a lot of these right-wing sites are doing stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Of course.
Of course.
dan friesen
Although Alex would say he's not right-wing, but that's a whole other dilemma for another day.
jordan holmes
He's Trump-wing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because, yeah, there is no right-wing anymore.
There's Trump-wing, and then there's...
Reality.
That's all there is.
dan friesen
So we have a couple more clips.
jordan holmes
And then there's Democrats who are...
Yeah.
dan friesen
He has an interview on this show with a guy who claims to be one of the most important intelligence operators in the world.
jordan holmes
Oh, I bet he is!
dan friesen
His name is Robert Steele, and we're going to get to his interview.
But before we do...
jordan holmes
Everybody has a great fucking name.
Rob Steele?
dan friesen
His name is actually Robert David Steele.
jordan holmes
Three names?
He's gonna kill the president.
dan friesen
Rob Steele is way better.
jordan holmes
Rob and Steele is way better.
dan friesen
He's a weird dude and his interview is scary as hell.
But before we get to that, I want to take a little opportunity to introduce you to another gentleman who is a member of Alex Jones' team.
He is a gentleman by the name of Mark Dice.
jordan holmes
It's a pastel snatch.
dan friesen
We've talked about Mark Dice in passing in the past.
jordan holmes
Mark Dice Clay.
dan friesen
More or less.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think it's time that we meet him.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This is a clip.
This is a show.
jordan holmes
And he comes through the door right now, ladies and...
No, okay.
unidentified
He is insane.
jordan holmes
If you're adding...
If you're there now with what we deal with, if you specifically single him out for being insane, we're going to get wild.
dan friesen
Now, I want to say a few things.
Oh, no!
jordan holmes
No!
Are we watching a full-on professional wrestling reconciliation?
Is that what's happening right now?
dan friesen
This is Kevin Owens and Sami Zayn coming back together.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because he now works for InfoWars again.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
They squash the beef, and now they're working together again.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And Mark Dice, more or less, he does a couple other things.
He sometimes does really snarky reports, but a lot of what he does is jaywalking.
He does a lot of, like...
jordan holmes
Oh, he does the man on the street.
Look how dumb people are!
Yeah, that whole thing.
dan friesen
And the implied thing is that they're all liberals, and look how fucking stupid liberals are.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
I'm gonna play...
jordan holmes
Boy, I hate it whenever we are so fucking stupid.
dan friesen
I'm gonna play a little sample of his gotcha journalism out on the street.
And now keep in mind, if you're watching the video, all but the last person he talks to in this clip, who we might not even get to, are all trying to walk away from him.
unidentified
Foreign and domestic.
Which?
Which means?
It's Alex.
jordan holmes
Which means that not all liberals are dumb.
unidentified
What country is Mount Rushmore located in?
I don't know.
Are you an American?
Yeah.
Okay, I'm going to have to revoke your citizenship.
Okay.
jordan holmes
Fuck you.
unidentified
Where is Trump Tower located?
I don't know.
You don't know?
I don't know.
Where is Donald Trump from?
Where does he live?
I don't know where he lives.
Just generally, where does he live?
I have no idea.
If you could tell Donald Trump something about your tampons, what would you say to him?
jordan holmes
If you could tell Donald Trump something about your tampons, what would you say to him?
Dear God, it's me, Margaret.
Isn't that what that is?
dan friesen
I think so.
jordan holmes
I think so.
dan friesen
So he's out at a beach just asking people questions who are walking around on the beach.
But one of his big gotcha journalism styles is he'll pretend that Trump is doing something really bad and be like, you're so gullible you believed me.
And so this...
Was him talking to a girl that Trump signed an executive order to get rid of tampons.
jordan holmes
That's not gullibility.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's the world we live in now.
There are zero things you could tell me about Trump where I would not entertain the possibility.
dan friesen
Right, right.
But he told this girl that Trump is trying to outlaw tampons.
Now, he's playing this in his sizzle reel of how stupid people are.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Listen to her response.
unidentified
They're definitely a necessity.
They're not something that needs to be banned at all.
I don't know for sure, but I don't think he would use an executive order to ban tampons because, one, that just sounds preposterous to me because they're kind of a necessity.
They're not a luxury at all.
And I can tell you that from many, many years of experience that there's nothing luxurious about having your period and needing to use a tampon.
dan friesen
What's being made fun of there?
jordan holmes
Does he have a response to that?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Why did he put that in the clip?
That's actually really good advocacy.
Like, she did a great fucking job.
Maybe he snuck that clip in there.
Because he agrees with her!
dan friesen
Maybe he never stopped wanting to take Alex Jones down.
jordan holmes
Oh my god!
dan friesen
Dice is on the inside!
jordan holmes
Why have we become the main conspiracy theorists on this fucking podcast?
Have we lost our minds?
dan friesen
Jordan, the worm has turned.
jordan holmes
It's all backwards.
dan friesen
The hunter has become the hunted.
jordan holmes
Now Alex Jones is asking for listeners and we're spouting conspiracy theorists.
This has all gone tits up.
dan friesen
Tomorrow's episode is undoubtedly going to be just both of our show.
unidentified
Oh, God!
jordan holmes
She makes a really great point, and that's not...
dan friesen
But how bad of, like, man on the street shit is that?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There's no punch.
There's no, like, aha, you're an idiot.
It was just, he introduced the idea that Trump was going to ban tampons, and she said, I think that sounds preposterous.
I don't really believe that that's what's going to happen, but I will say that it's not luxurious to have your period.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I've had my period for a really long time.
jordan holmes
That's like if the question of, like, where does Trump live, it was actually answered by...
Well, so far, Trump seems to have many different living locations, and it seems like even though he's supposed to live in the White House, he's rarely there.
It's also maybe he lives in New York.
Was he born in New York?
Probably, but I don't know.
He spends a lot of time in Mar-a-Lago.
Who and what are we?
Yeah, exactly!
dan friesen
Let's see.
I think he has some more.
Also, he confronts somebody.
jordan holmes
What country is Mount Rushmore in?
dan friesen
America?
jordan holmes
Idiot!
The country is North Dakota, moron!
dan friesen
She says she doesn't know, but she looks high as shit.
She's trying to have a nice day on the beach.
Fucking coming up with your cameras and shit.
Blowing the buzz.
unidentified
You might have seen the Donald Trump kids are big hunters.
They go on these hunting trips just for fun and kill these poor animals.
So now, just getting people's reactions to Donald Trump's kids now killing the Triceratops in Africa.
Okay, so honestly, my opinion is...
I think they're just getting away with a lot for the simple fact that they're Donald Trump's children.
jordan holmes
So, again, even though he said Triceratops, she had the absolute correct answer.
dan friesen
And, you know, the Trump kids do kill a lot of wild game, weirdly.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it might as well.
Like, if I was asked that question, I wouldn't immediately stop and go, Triceratops aren't real.
dan friesen
To the bigger issue, I would say that blah, blah, blah, blah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
You are clearly making an exaggeration, and I'm going to give you a response instead of engaging with your dumbassness.
dan friesen
But this lady is dumb, and she's clearly like a wannabe actress.
She's like grabbing the mic from him and stuff like that.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
She's just dumb and going along with it for like being on camera.
unidentified
Aw.
dan friesen
Which is fine, but it's still, it doesn't end up being funny at all.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's not like a boom, gotcha.
All it is is you don't know Triceratops aren't real.
jordan holmes
Again, well, one, I mean, Triceratops are real.
They're just not now.
dan friesen
Eddie Bravo told me they aren't.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's a good point.
dan friesen
So this next clip...
jordan holmes
If Eddie Bravo says it, one, I don't think it's true, but two, I think he has a good heart.
dan friesen
Now, this next clip is the beginning of this interview with Rob Steele, and this is a really short clip where Alex makes...
jordan holmes
He has to have...
Committed burglary at least once.
Like, that's nominative determinism, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
He has robbed or stolen something.
dan friesen
I didn't even think of that.
jordan holmes
How did you not think of that?
That's the only thing I've been thinking about every time you said his name.
dan friesen
Because his name, the S-T-E-E-L-E, S-T-E-E-L-E, Rob Steele to me is more like superhero-ish.
Like, to me, that's an alter ego.
jordan holmes
Rob Steele man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this clip is really short, and Alex makes a wild exaggeration about the situation he's in.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Now, I don't...
This all broke this morning.
We don't even have articles out on this yet, okay?
But Robert Davis still joins us.
I want to get his take on where we are and what's currently happening.
But people need to understand, this is the most serious censorship since the Civil War in this country.
dan friesen
Bold.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
All right.
dan friesen
I'm not even going to try and argue with that.
jordan holmes
The most serious censorship since the Civil War in this country.
You know what?
dan friesen
What about...
jordan holmes
I would actually argue the most serious censorship was...
unidentified
Two live crew?
jordan holmes
Tipper Gore shit?
Milli Vanilli not being allowed to have a career.
dan friesen
Girl, you know it's true.
jordan holmes
Girl, you know it's true.
Triceratops are real.
Yeah.
No, whenever FDR refused to mention that it was specifically the Japanese that he was putting in internment camps, the order that he wrote never once mentioned Japanese people.
dan friesen
Okay, well that's selective truth, not censorship.
jordan holmes
You're right.
That's a good point.
dan friesen
This is censorship being forced upon somebody.
jordan holmes
I was just trying really hard to find any kind of...
It was two live crew.
dan friesen
Two live crew.
jordan holmes
You're right.
dan friesen
They got banned.
In the USA, I was...
Band in the USA!
That's a great song.
jordan holmes
What about Lenny Bruce?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
I would go with Lenny Bruce.
Wouldn't you go with Lenny Bruce?
dan friesen
Steve-O, when he got in trouble for stapling his balls to his leg.
jordan holmes
He should get in trouble for stapling.
Although, at the same time, wasn't he already in trouble enough?
dan friesen
Yeah, he was in deep trouble.
He was doing fucking PCP on video and selling it.
jordan holmes
PCP is actually made of bones.
Did you know that?
dan friesen
I didn't.
jordan holmes
Yeah?
dan friesen
Me and my buddies actually bought that DVD from a late night infomercial.
It was called PCP Saved My Life.
It was nuts.
But not as nuts as this next clip.
jordan holmes
Bath salt saved my face.
dan friesen
So this is just this Robert Steele talking.
jordan holmes
Rob Steele.
dan friesen
I generally don't include interviews on the show.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But some of the stuff that this guy is...
jordan holmes
Unless it's Jerome Corsi not being allowed to speak.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Some of the stuff that this guy is saying is incredibly scary.
And I think it's actually really what this is all about.
unidentified
Well, Alex, A, you're my hero.
I think you're one of the best of the alternative media sites.
And frankly, I wouldn't be popular anywhere if it hadn't been for you.
So thank you.
alex jones
No, thank you.
jordan holmes
That is scary.
unidentified
I'll give you two names.
Brendan Sullivan and Daniel Sheehan.
robert david steele
I think you should reach out to both of them because this is the single greatest threat to American democracy since Congress abdicated its constitutional role to control the power of the purse and war.
jordan holmes
There is a certain amount of that that is kind of true whenever they have not yet authorized any actual war and yet we've still fought a lot of wars and they've been okay with the executive branch doing that.
dan friesen
No, I agree that that's a problem.
jordan holmes
That is a problem.
dan friesen
But Alex Jones losing a sponsor is not the biggest threat to democracy since that.
jordan holmes
I would say no.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
This is without question.
An unconstitutional, illegal action.
robert david steele
And Alex, I would be thrilled if you got Brendan Sullivan and Danny Sheehan on your side and led a full court.
alex jones
Sure, tell folks who those are.
There's a lot of people that have been warning about all this and now it's happening.
robert david steele
Well, Brendan Sullivan is the I'm not the potted plant guy who defended Oliver North.
Brendan Sullivan is probably the single greatest lawyer still working in Washington, D.C. Daniel Sheehan is the Ellsberg lawyer.
unidentified
I reviewed his book, The People's Advocate.
Danny Sheehan is one of the greatest lawyers on the planet.
dan friesen
So you get two lawyers.
jordan holmes
So wait, now we've got two the greatest lawyers on the planet.
dan friesen
Yeah, but one of them defended the guy from the Vietnam papers.
jordan holmes
Oh!
dan friesen
Wasn't that Ellsberg's thing?
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
So you got that guy.
jordan holmes
That's good.
unidentified
And then the guy who defended Ollie North.
jordan holmes
Less good.
dan friesen
Very different.
jordan holmes
Less good.
dan friesen
Very different.
jordan holmes
That's like the guy who defended OJ and the guy who defended Dave from IT, who is now officially our punching bag.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's a character.
jordan holmes
He is our whatever it was, Bob the punching dummy.
dan friesen
Also, I have a new segment.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
We don't have time for it now, but I just want you to know.
jordan holmes
Wait, are you teasing a segment and then saying we're not going to do it?
dan friesen
I'm just saying.
jordan holmes
We're immediately going to do it, right?
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
This is not an Alex Jones fake-out.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I came up with a segment, and we're going to do it next episode.
jordan holmes
Okay, all right.
dan friesen
I'm thrilled for it.
unidentified
All right, all right.
dan friesen
Get excited for that, listeners.
Anyway, this guy goes on.
But seriously, those lawyers, their credits could not be further apart.
jordan holmes
No, not good.
robert david steele
And he is deeply committed.
alex jones
Absolutely.
And they're going to argue we have terms of service, but they just can't take some fake list that the Washington Post admits is fake and then apply it and then ban me and say I'm not a human and put me in some electronic ghetto.
unidentified
Adroll is a failing company.
They laid off 500 people in December.
dan friesen
So they flash up on screen an article from Fortune magazine when he says this.
To add credence to his claim that they laid off 500 people and Adderall is a failing company.
I'd like to read to you from this December 7th, 2016 article from Fortune Magazine.
jordan holmes
I love it when you read contradictory information.
dan friesen
Adderall has laid off around 29 employees.
Fortune has learned.
CEO Aaron Bell provided the following statement.
During our annual planning process, we made prioritization decisions to focus on the growth areas that we're most excited about.
This led to a small number of roles being eliminated.
We also opened up other new roles, and there was no personal impact on R&D.
We saw record-breaking revenue in 2016, and these changes will support our ambitious growth plans for 2017 and beyond.
Where did that 500 number come from?
A little bit later in the article, Adroll has around 500 employees.
jordan holmes
So they laid off...
Their entire business, according to Rob Steele.
dan friesen
Rob Steele, not big on the details.
jordan holmes
Not big on the details.
dan friesen
He says he's one of the most important intelligence operatives in the world.
He can't even read a three-paragraph article.
jordan holmes
Not good at intelligence.
dan friesen
Fucking liar!
Whenever they're complaining about being fake news, this is why!
This is why you flashed that article on the screen when you were lying about it.
jordan holmes
How long did they leave the article up?
Did they leave it up long enough for you to read all three paragraphs?
dan friesen
Long enough for me to see it.
jordan holmes
That's basically admitting that my viewership can't read.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's insane.
Do you not think someone's paying attention?
alex jones
I am.
jordan holmes
I think...
Okay.
Maybe we're the only people paying attention.
Again, this is a new conspiracy theory for us.
dan friesen
No, we've already speculated this.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
It's just bots and us.
jordan holmes
No one else watches Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's all bots.
jordan holmes
There are zero Alex Jones listeners, and yet somehow we have some downloads on this show.
All Alex Jones bots.
dan friesen
To be fair, if Alex Jones, like, no one was listening to him, this podcast is still fascinating.
Using him as source material.
jordan holmes
Now we're just, like, we just have a live video feed from a dude in an insane asylum.
dan friesen
That is what Alex lives in in his head.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
Anyway, we're about to get to what I think this clip is really scary.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
They're a crap company, okay?
robert david steele
They do whatever Google tells them to do.
unidentified
And behind Google is Eric Schmidt.
robert david steele
And behind Eric Schmidt is the Clinton Foundation and George Soros, and behind them are the Rothschilds.
unidentified
What is happening right now is that we need a new internet.
We need to bury Google, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.
Steemit is a good start.
robert david steele
I personally have never taken ads on my website, in part because I rely on donations, and I'm much smaller than you are, Alex.
unidentified
But I think this is war.
robert david steele
And Trump, unfortunately, is having all of his people being stripped away from him, and he still doesn't get it.
unidentified
He needs an Electoral Reform Act, and he needs a Trump channel.
robert david steele
And you and I have talked about the Trump channel, and you should certainly be a critical part of the Trump channel.
But I want to bury Twitter, Facebook, Google, and YouTube, and I want to do it in the next 90 days with a blockchain technology that Donald Trump could roll out with Brad Parscale overnight.
jordan holmes
Holy fucking shit!
dan friesen
When you're complaining about censorship, and then you're advocating a Trump channel and destroying the internet, you're not on solid ground.
jordan holmes
The scarier part was the elector reform thing.
Because that's got the...
You know how much...
Mugabe ran a dictatorship.
dan friesen
Oh, did you hear what he said recently?
jordan holmes
I mean, more a democracy, but somehow he won 97% of the vote.
Like, all great dictators win 97% of the vote.
dan friesen
Did you see Mugabe gave a shout-out to Trump recently?
jordan holmes
Oh, my God!
Great!
unidentified
Great!
jordan holmes
Fucking great!
I love it.
The Trump channel.
Now, do you think...
So, the theory behind Trump's actual campaign was that what he was really going for was a Trump news network.
That Jared Kushner would run?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So do you think they're still trying to put that together?
dan friesen
Well, doesn't Kushner run the New York Post or whatever?
Doesn't he have his own paper?
jordan holmes
I don't think he has.
He's a real estate magnate.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I'm pretty sure he owns a paper.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
I'm not entirely sure.
I don't know all the details.
unidentified
Oh, we're fucked.
dan friesen
I shouldn't speculate.
I believe I've read that somewhere.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
I don't know all the details.
We're not fake news.
I'm not claiming that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I'll look it up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Okay, so we've got the Trump Channel.
Which, if he was going to merge with somebody, wouldn't you want him to find out whether or not there was a Trump channel that he could merge with?
This is actually a possibility, right?
And if it is a possibility, then that's state-run media.
And if we have state-run media, it's fucking over.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Isn't that what happens?
That's Brazil.
Brazil has state-run media.
dan friesen
Jared Kushner owns the New York Observer.
jordan holmes
Isn't that like two men found Bigfoot and they had a child with him?
dan friesen
It might be.
I don't know what the New York Observer is.
I don't know if it's a paper of record or credible at all.
jordan holmes
All I know is that they fucking watch shit.
dan friesen
But I'm glad that I didn't just make up out of whole cloth that he owns something.
I apologize that I said it was the New York Post.
jordan holmes
That is good.
dan friesen
But it still had New York in the name.
Yes.
unidentified
The idea that he's going to merge with some other propagandist arm and create the Trump channel, which I think is what they were talking about earlier in the episode, is one of the scariest publications.
jordan holmes
That's for real terrifying.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Wow.
We're fucked.
dan friesen
We are.
jordan holmes
And that...
That's Russia.
That's Russia.
dan friesen
For all my glee.
jordan holmes
Who is going to back the fucking Trump channel?
dan friesen
Wait.
What are you asking me?
Russia.
Through Roger Stone.
jordan holmes
Through Roger Stone.
dan friesen
Our conspiracy theory from earlier has come in full circle.
jordan holmes
$3.3 million lost, but who's going to make up that?
The Trump channel.
The Trump channel.
Who is going to finance that?
Putin's non-existent money.
What?
dan friesen
All that oil.
All that oil money from Russia.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good point.
dan friesen
Carter Page is going to shoot it over.
jordan holmes
Is this...
I've never gone from glee to utter and abject terror so fast.
dan friesen
Well, here's what's interesting for me.
jordan holmes
I was so happy that we're losing $3.3 million, and now I know there's a state-run media coming.
dan friesen
What's great for...
jordan holmes
Why did you break my heart?
dan friesen
Now, let me try and cheer you back up.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So, it is delightful, Alex Jones.
Being in panic mode.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
It's so fun, and I don't think he's gonna get out of it for a while.
jordan holmes
No.
We're here, at the very least, tomorrow's gonna be batshit insane.
dan friesen
And it's gonna be a 13-hour episode.
jordan holmes
How is it?
dan friesen
I'm gonna be watching all of it.
jordan holmes
You just, you told me earlier.
dan friesen
We might have to have an emergency episode.
jordan holmes
You told me earlier that you were going to do a full, like...
I gotta take a day off.
I'm gonna have to watch this from start to finish.
dan friesen
I'm gonna take a full day off.
jordan holmes
Eventually, I'm going to come in here tomorrow afternoon, and you are just going to be naked writing your name in shit on the wall.
dan friesen
Nah, I've got therapy tomorrow night.
Friday, though.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Friday.
jordan holmes
Fair enough.
dan friesen
Shit on the wall.
So, what I want to say to cheer you up is that...
This state-run media shit is so obvious.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And we are on the ground floor against it.
jordan holmes
We're hipsters against state-run media.
dan friesen
We stand to gain the most out of this.
jordan holmes
Your naked self-interest is delightful.
dan friesen
No, not naked self-interest.
I don't mean gain monetarily or anything like that.
What we're doing is now important.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Weird.
Weird.
dan friesen
It's still fun.
jordan holmes
This is bad, right?
Us being important is the worst thing I can think about.
dan friesen
It's a little scary, but the way we do this is so fun, and it's so easy.
jordan holmes
It's fun to, at the very least, us.
dan friesen
Yeah, and the hundreds of people who are listening, everyone loves it.
And I love you all, I appreciate you listening very much.
But debunking these lies are so easy.
It's like a hot knife through butter.
unidentified
We...
jordan holmes
God, I wish Adroll just gave us that 3.3 million.
dan friesen
That would be a great fuck you.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
So, I think that we are in for an exciting period of podcasting.
jordan holmes
This is going to be batshit.
dan friesen
Because, who knows, six months from now, there might not be Infowars.
jordan holmes
Well, six months from now, there might not be America.
So, let's not go crazy.
dan friesen
Six months from now, we might be broadcasting from Easter Island.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we had that conversation earlier.
Maybe the only way to keep this going is to escape.
dan friesen
If the state-run media starts up.
jordan holmes
I know, right?
We're going to go from being knowledge fight to Trump news fight.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And also, remember, like, episode three or whatever, I was speculating that this could become dangerous?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This could become really dangerous.
jordan holmes
This could become dangerous.
I thought we were all having a nice little laugh.
dan friesen
Not anymore.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
This could, like...
You know what happens to people who...
jordan holmes
Although that does sound very megalomaniacal right now.
dan friesen
No, but think about what happens to people who do what we're doing in Russia.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
They die.
jordan holmes
Oh my god, if we...
Look.
dan friesen
I'm not saying we're gonna.
jordan holmes
Do you remember the journalist who, in her home, was shot in the face like 20 times?
dan friesen
On Putin's birthday?
jordan holmes
On Putin's birthday, which is both...
Like, if it wasn't real...
That's cute.
That's a fun little...
If that was in a TV show, part of you would be like, aww!
dan friesen
Again, that's wagon dick.
That's Putin being like, suck it.
jordan holmes
That's the wire.
That's Avon Barksdale getting taken down.
But the idea that we might be in your fucking apartment and shot to death, if I'm going to die, that's the only way I want to die.
dan friesen
For sure.
jordan holmes
Only way I want to die.
dan friesen
Now let's just bring this back into reality.
Yes.
This hasn't happened yet, the state-run media thing.
There's just the kernels of it here in this episode.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
We're not really in danger.
We're not paranoid to the point where it's like, we think this is real.
jordan holmes
No matter how many conspiracy theories we just made up in the past hour, we are not paranoid.
dan friesen
But worst case scenario, this shit gets really dark really fast.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And we will be here documenting it.
unidentified
Worst case scenario?
jordan holmes
Frankly, best case scenario is that this gets dark.
dan friesen
For whom?
jordan holmes
Just dark?
That's fine.
dan friesen
Anyway, this last clip I want to play is more from the Robert Steele interview, where Alex keeps trying to get Robert Steele to talk about how shitty Alex's situation is.
All he wants to talk about...
jordan holmes
This is the two of them in a bar, and the bartender being like, What's wrong, man?
dan friesen
All Alex wants to do is talk about, like, I lost $3.3 million, everyone's trying to censor me, and Robert Steele is like, will not stop repeating, you need to get lawyers.
jordan holmes
In Alex Jones' defense, if I just lost $3.3 million, holy shit, that's all I would be able to talk about.
dan friesen
If I lost $3.3 million, David Knight is hosting.
I'm taking the day off.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
He should have taken the fucking day off.
dan friesen
He should have gotten drunk.
jordan holmes
He should be fucking wasted right now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, this dude just...
jordan holmes
I mean, well, he is fucking wasted right now.
He should have been wasted at about 10 in the morning.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Steele just keeps telling him to lawyer up.
jordan holmes
Lawyer up?
dan friesen
To do what?
To fucking take the fight to the establishment.
jordan holmes
To the Supreme Court?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Take the fight to Google, I guess.
jordan holmes
To Google.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like you're going to win a fight against Google.
dan friesen
But that's another thing.
If he does end up taking this guy's advice, shit's gonna get wild.
jordan holmes
Frankly, if he fights against Google, I wouldn't be surprised if he died on Google's fucking birthday.
dan friesen
So anyway, he does the...
I don't remember exactly what else is fucked up about this clip, but it's fucked up.
robert david steele
But the problem is, you are our natural leader, and I really respect everything you have done for all of us.
unidentified
Woof.
robert david steele
But on this one, I think you really need to think very deeply about reaching out to Brendan Sullivan and Danny Sheehan.
alex jones
Now listen, I know that I need to sue some people now, because for everybody...
unidentified
And you need to get these two lawyers this week.
alex jones
I know, I'm not a litigious person, but when they just say, we say you're fake...
And we've got a Washington Post list that they admit was a fake list.
And so now you signed a contract.
We worked with you for years.
And now we're not going to work with you.
If they just said we're not going to work with you, fine.
But they said, no, you're fake.
You're a fraud.
dan friesen
You are a propagandist.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I wouldn't say to be a fraud.
No, he's a fraud.
Never mind.
alex jones
So we're not going to work with you.
When I just had the former vice head of the Homeland Security and Armed Services Committees on saying, They threatened my family ten years ago and I didn't speak out.
Well, I'm taking the gloves off now and exposing the Clintons as communist Chinese and Russian agents.
That's not fake news.
That's Pulitzer Prize-level stuff.
jordan holmes
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
It's also not.
jordan holmes
If there is a Trump News Network, Alex Jones will win all of the Pulitzer Prizes.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he'll get a Hugo Award.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, yeah.
dan friesen
Because, you know, science fiction is just the dreams of men.
jordan holmes
It's just the dreams of men, which we did not even talk about.
I listened to the past episode and I was like, wait, how did we skip that shit?
dan friesen
Because we both just left.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
So this isn't done, but seriously, just having a guy on, who, by the way, we all know how hard it is to get voted out of the Senate, and this guy managed to do that.
So he's not great.
jordan holmes
Also, is Rob Steele currently sucking Alex Jones' dick?
dan friesen
No, he's on Skype.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's on Skype.
So he's got a dildo that's shaped like Alex Jones' dick.
dan friesen
Bingo.
jordan holmes
And he's putting it in and out of his mouth while he speaks.
dan friesen
You're our natural leader.
But having a guy on Skype sitting with Jerome Corsi in an office telling you that the Chinese are involved with Hillary Clinton, which is something you've said a hundred times on your own show already, and then that guy vaguely insinuate that his family was threatened, but given no evidence that that actually happened, that's not Pulitzer Prize winning.
Journalism.
And I know, from my experience with Alex Jones and Infowars...
jordan holmes
Winning a Pulitzer Prize!
dan friesen
No, he's never going to get to the details of that story.
He's going to leave it as, this guy came on my show and said his family was threatened, and that becomes enough for the story to be real.
jordan holmes
Was that guy's family threatened with polonium poisoning?
dan friesen
Like Roger Stone?
jordan holmes
Like Roger Stone!
It's everywhere, man.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
jordan holmes
It's all around us.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Polonium?
I don't even know if I'm not poisoned with it right now.
dan friesen
I probably am.
jordan holmes
I know!
dan friesen
You might just be sleepy or...
jordan holmes
Polonium poisoning.
I have a pimple.
alex jones
What do you make of that stuff with Kurt Weldon?
unidentified
You're right where WikiLeaks was when PayPal cut them off without any legal due process whatsoever.
alex jones
Exactly.
jordan holmes
Which is not a thing they have to have.
unidentified
That's what's happening to you now.
alex jones
And if I don't fight back, it's going to be everything next.
Exactly.
unidentified
There's three ways to fight back.
Way number one is you get Brendan Sullivan and Danny Sheehan and you create the legal dream team.
You go O.J. Simpson on steroids and you make these people hurt.
jordan holmes
O.J. Simpson already took steroids.
Let's stay right where we are there.
dan friesen
But also, let's unpack this.
O.J. Simpson murdered two people and hired lawyers to cover it up.
So don't use that metaphor when...
jordan holmes
Allegedly murdered two people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It was not proven in court.
dan friesen
All right.
But anyway...
jordan holmes
I wish all of a sudden everybody found out that I'm an OJ apologist or something.
dan friesen
You're a Sandy Hook truther.
jordan holmes
I'm a Sandy Hook truther.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
OJ denier, Holocaust denier.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
It's because you're pig-headed.
jordan holmes
I am.
I'm a beautifully pig-headed man.
dan friesen
But yeah, don't use that metaphor.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Don't you?
Like, the Dream Team, if you want to say that.
jordan holmes
At the very least, get Cochran.
dan friesen
Or talk about Dominique Wilkins.
You know?
Better Dream Team.
I really hope he was on the Dream Team.
unidentified
I've forgotten the 94 lineup.
You get judgments against them in every state that cuts them off.
alex jones
No, I agree.
It's a battle to expose fake news.
Well, the Washington Post had to retract a few months ago their fake news list because a lawsuit was filed.
And then they backed off.
robert david steele
Alex, you have got to get me in front of Donald Trump and Steve Bannon.
unidentified
Oh, shit!
alex jones
Oh, fucking hell!
jordan holmes
There it was!
dan friesen
That might be what this is about.
That might be what this is about.
jordan holmes
Goddamn!
Is that how we got the reconciliation?
There it is.
You gotta get me in front of Trump.
dan friesen
Because I've gotta suggest this Elector Reform Act.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, if that...
I will...
I mean, Trump...
Would totally go for that, right?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
He would totally go for that.
dan friesen
If he sat in a room with somebody who suggested it, yes, apparently.
So yeah, this guy might have a little bit of an agenda he's playing Alex with.
jordan holmes
It could be because it's bald-faced and obvious.
dan friesen
The whole thing where you were like, is this guy sucking his dick?
It might be because he's trying to...
That's an off-air conversation.
jordan holmes
How many dicks do you have to suck to get to Trump?
Is my favorite...
Sucker commercial.
dan friesen
It's like a six degrees of Kevin Bacon?
Yeah.
jordan holmes
A one, a two, a three.
And that's Trump's dick.
dan friesen
So yeah, I think that there's a decent chance.
I think this guy does actually think that there should be a Trump channel.
I agree with that.
jordan holmes
I think Trump does too.
dan friesen
But I also think that he has no access.
jordan holmes
None at all.
dan friesen
And he's kind of trying to use Alex Jones to get to Bannon.
jordan holmes
Which?
It's a great idea if you're him.
dan friesen
It's not bad.
jordan holmes
It's not a bad idea at all.
dan friesen
But this also implies that he can't talk to Alex off air.
jordan holmes
Frankly, we should use Alex to get to Bannon.
dan friesen
I don't want Alex to know about us.
jordan holmes
I do want Bannon to know about us.
dan friesen
That would be great.
He would destroy us.
Man, that would be bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
There would be so many articles about how big a cucks we are.
jordan holmes
We would get so many polonium poisonings.
dan friesen
Oh, so many.
jordan holmes
Every other day we're polonium poisoned.
dan friesen
I'd lose a little weight.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
I've been trying to use the bike more and it's not working.
jordan holmes
Not going well?
dan friesen
Polonium.
jordan holmes
Polonium?
dan friesen
It's the next move.
jordan holmes
That's why you should not buy a bike made out of polonium.
dan friesen
So Jordan, that brings us to the end of our clips and that is what a difference a day can make.
We started this episode with happy fun time.
I'm pissed off about how I'm being portrayed in Homeland.
I don't know what's real.
I'm a horrible racist bigot.
Oh my god, what's this?
Comedy.
And then immediately...
jordan holmes
Have we...
We haven't dealt with Alex Jones being panicked, have we?
dan friesen
Not really.
jordan holmes
No, he's always been at the height of his powers.
This is a man laid low.
dan friesen
We've only dealt with fake panic, like that COG shit.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right, right.
dan friesen
Like they're gonna nuke the inauguration.
jordan holmes
Well, but he was panicked about others.
This is the first time he's panicked about him.
dan friesen
He's never been in survival mode.
jordan holmes
We can see now...
What a beta cuck he is.
The moment he gets a challenge, man, he's beta cucking it.
dan friesen
We have thousands of products.
Please buy our shit.
jordan holmes
I still don't know what that actually means.
dan friesen
I don't either.
It has something to do with Islam.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
According to Alex.
jordan holmes
At the very least, Twitter has told me that.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Speaking of Twitter, you can follow us at knowledge underscore fight.
jordan holmes
Goddammit, your transitions are amazing.
dan friesen
I've been doing this a while.
jordan holmes
We are on iTunes!
Subscribe at shit!
dan friesen
And please, give us a review or a rating if you enjoy the show.
You can email us at knowledgefight at gmail dot com.
jordan holmes
And, you know what?
I wouldn't mind a death threat.
I'm at Jake Mondale.
dan friesen
Oh, God, you're a fool.
You're a damn fool.
Anybody can figure out our fucking Twitter handles.
jordan holmes
It'd be so easy.
I know.
dan friesen
Anyway, Jordan, this has been so much fun.
jordan holmes
Always a delight.
dan friesen
I can't wait to tell you all about the 13-hour marathon.
jordan holmes
Yeah, let me ask you a question.
Are we policy wonks?
dan friesen
Oh, I think we're a couple of goddamn policy wonks.
jordan holmes
We're policy wonks.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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