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Feb. 20, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#14: February 17, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about the what was going on in the world of Alex Jones on Feb 17, 2017. Topics covered include: Are chicken bones "the cleanest bones?" Dan and Jordan conceive of the best sitcom idea ever Does Alex Jones low-key try to drop a rap verse? Does Trump have a super power that involves phones?

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alex jones
29:18
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dan friesen
01:09:34
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jordan holmes
58:14
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donald j trump
03:21
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alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
And we need to work out a new introduction.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The point of the matter is that I watch too much InfoWars, and I like to sit down and describe it to you.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
Wait, did I redo that?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I thought that was our new introduction.
I just say I'm Jordan three times in a row.
dan friesen
Ah, I'm Jordan!
jordan holmes
Like Battle Juice.
Like Beetle Juice, not Battle Juice.
Battle Toads plus Beetle Juice means Battle Juice.
And then add in, we're fans of Alex Jones, so it's Battle Juice.
dan friesen
Boone's Farm is my Battle Juice.
We're brought to you today by Boone's Farm, Strawberry Hill, delightful stuff.
Jordan, we got a lot to cover.
jordan holmes
Let's do this.
dan friesen
We need to get into the right headspace of what's going on here.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Everything is falling apart around our eyes.
dan friesen
Amazingly so.
jordan holmes
Like a slow motion tire fire.
dan friesen
It's not that slow.
jordan holmes
No, it's a super fast...
dan friesen
Imagine a tire fire, but quicker.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
In the last week we've had, since we last recorded, Donald Trump has given an incredibly unhinged press conference.
jordan holmes
The only way to describe it.
dan friesen
He went to Florida to have a campaign rally a month into his presidency.
jordan holmes
The most insane thing I can imagine.
dan friesen
I don't know if you watched any of it.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
It was off the chain.
jordan holmes
I can't.
I can't do it.
dan friesen
He had Pam Bondi come out and give a little bit of a hype introduction.
And then Candle in the Wind started playing.
jordan holmes
Is he gonna die?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Is he gonna kill Princess Di?
dan friesen
Well, here's the thing.
jordan holmes
Is that a new Alex Jones conspiracy there?
That Princess Diana is still alive and Trump knows where she is?
dan friesen
And somebody's gonna kill her?
Here's the thing.
I was like, why the fuck is he playing Candle in the Wind?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But then I started to listen to the lyrics and they talk about how evil the press is.
All the papers had to say was Marilyn was found in the nude.
There's a couple lines in the song that are about how the press He forced Marilyn Monroe to change into Marilyn Monroe from Norma Jean.
It's a stretch.
jordan holmes
That is a stretch.
Elton, Elton, if you're listening.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We got some stuff to talk about.
dan friesen
About the lying press.
jordan holmes
About the lyrics of Candle in the Wind.
Way to go, Elton, John.
I didn't know that you're the one at fault for Trump.
dan friesen
So then the camera pans over and it's to the open end of the hangar because there's a bunch of people in the hangar.
And I'm sitting there, I'm like, there's no fucking way he's going to taxi in on a plane.
jordan holmes
He taxied in on a plane, didn't he?
dan friesen
What made me suspicious...
jordan holmes
There is no garish, just pathetic thing he won't do.
dan friesen
There was like the stair car was there, so I'm like, he's gotta come in on a plane.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And then fucking Air Force One pulls in.
jordan holmes
Jesus fucking Christ.
dan friesen
It takes for fucking ever.
And then he gets off the plane, comes down, gives an absurd speech, lets a fan come out of the crowd and speak to the audience?
Just some guy that he had seen on Fox News being interviewed, he's like, oh I recognize you come on up here what?
Secret Service isn't going to like this but we know our people we know our people Why do we even do this?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Why are we even American anymore?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Let's just leave.
It's so crazy.
Everyone leave.
unidentified
Go.
jordan holmes
Go now.
There are other places to be.
This place needs to be abandoned.
There won't be places for long.
We need to build biodomes in the rainforest.
There is no other solution to this.
dan friesen
You're getting dangerously close to Alex's breakaway civilization.
jordan holmes
Put him under goddamn ground so whenever Trump...
Nuclear weapons, the whole fucking world.
dan friesen
So now you're advocating dumbs.
jordan holmes
I am advocating dumbs.
dan friesen
Deep underground military bases.
jordan holmes
That is right.
Yes.
dan friesen
So he lets this guy get up there and he just is like, we all know Trump's gonna be the greatest, blah, blah, blah.
It's wild.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Of course it is.
dan friesen
Trump hugs the guy.
unidentified
This is the funniest fucking thing.
jordan holmes
Why don't we get to enjoy it?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Why isn't...
unidentified
This is the...
jordan holmes
Funniest fucking thing I've ever lived through, and I hate every moment of it.
dan friesen
If it wasn't real, it would be so hilarious.
jordan holmes
It's the funniest shit.
I can't even imagine.
There's nothing, there's no way any writer would be allowed to get away with writing this story.
This is too far-fetched.
This is outside of what anybody would believe.
dan friesen
Hey, buddy, take another lap on this one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, come on.
We need a script doctor in here to punch up.
dan friesen
We need a full re-edit.
So he gives his speech, and he gets like, I mean, the applause all comes at very predictable times.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Thankfully, I don't think I heard any lock-her-ups or anything like that, so maybe we're moving on from that.
A couple people with Hillary for prison signs still.
Two things that I found really horrifying.
I don't like that we're taking this much time to talk about non-Alex stuff.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There was a bunch of people with Blacks for Trump 2020 signs behind him.
There were like seven people.
jordan holmes
2020?
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's a campaign event.
jordan holmes
It's a campaign event.
dan friesen
Yeah, the rally in Florida was a campaign event.
jordan holmes
It's 2017.
dan friesen
Right.
He's campaigning three years in advance for his re-election.
unidentified
This is the funniest thing that makes me want to kill myself.
donald j trump
Yeah.
dan friesen
So these people are all there.
They're clearly plants.
Uh-huh.
All identical signs, identical shirts.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And they all, along with everyone else.
jordan holmes
Spontaneous blacks for Trump?
dan friesen
No.
And everyone else in the audience, along with them, or at least the people who are behind Trump, all stand in unison and clap at the same things.
It's very strange.
jordan holmes
It's very, I don't know, Goebbels-esque.
dan friesen
It seemed planned.
But then also...
jordan holmes
Understated.
Understatement.
dan friesen
There was a lady with a Veterans for Trump sign, and one guy in military fatigues behind him.
And at one point, Trump says, Who here are veterans?
And when he says that, The lady with a Veterans for Trump sign sits down and hides her sign, and the guy in fatigues doesn't even clap.
So it's like, hmm, that would be your fucking time.
jordan holmes
That would be your cue.
dan friesen
It's almost like someone was in costume.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And forgot that he's supposed to be military guy.
So anyway, we've had this stuff, and I gotta be honest, a lot of this is wearing on me.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's getting to the point where I'm starting, I'm not starting to go crazy or anything like that.
But Alex Jones is starting to hurt me.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
dan friesen
And I'm not saying this for pity.
jordan holmes
No, what you're saying it for is to take credit for becoming a martyr for the cause, right?
dan friesen
No, I'm saying it mostly...
jordan holmes
You are our Jesus.
dan friesen
No, I'm saying it mostly to get myself off the hook a little bit.
unidentified
Oh.
dan friesen
Because I've been listening to a bunch of his shit, and then during the rally, I shouldn't have watched it, but...
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
When I was watching it, I started to drink.
jordan holmes
That is what you should have done.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it got me, you know, the wine got good to me.
And I started drinking some more.
And by the time it was over, I realized, oh, fuck, I've got to get clips for our next episode.
So I isolated all of these clips drunk.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
So I don't remember what some of them are.
jordan holmes
Fantastic.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is our next grab bag episode right here.
dan friesen
A little bit, but I do know that it's from February 27th, or 17th, excuse me, we're not in the future.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
February 17th, the Friday episode, he does respond to Trump's crazy press conference, so we get into that a little bit.
And then I have a little bit of a couple bonus clips.
From an episode that he put out only on the internet.
unidentified
Ooh!
jordan holmes
We know he's got...
He goes unfiltered on the internet.
dan friesen
He put out an hour clip that might be the most boring and stupid thing I've ever seen in my life.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
Maybe we should just start with that.
jordan holmes
That's the weirdest.
dan friesen
Let's start with the bonus.
jordan holmes
That's not the Alex we know.
dan friesen
It is.
It is, actually.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's a good point.
It is exactly the Alex we know.
dan friesen
It's fairly close.
So what ended up...
Here's the introduction to the show that he did for the internet.
This is interesting.
This is like dessert for dinner.
We're doing the bonus ahead of the actual episode.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So here's his introduction.
alex jones
All right.
I'm going to attempt something here today, live at 3.14 Central Standard Time, that I've never succeeded in.
I have a big frustration.
I, last night, this morning, today, during breaks, probably scanned over 300 articles.
There were a couple hundred others I couldn't even look at.
I watched all these video clips and researched them and then played a fraction of them.
And I'm not complaining.
It's just I've gotten kind of OCD about the way I do things.
So this may be a train wreck.
It may be good.
It may be bad.
But we are seeing the fall of world government, at least the world government by a bunch of corporatists.
Their system of being in the shadows and running everything is coming down.
Does that mean we won't screw it up now?
No, no.
The fight has just begun, but we're having some major victories.
dan friesen
So at this point, are you getting any sense of what he has tried in the past to do but failed?
unidentified
No?
jordan holmes
Make a woman come?
dan friesen
I think that's implied.
alex jones
So I've got 500 articles here.
unidentified
No, you don't.
alex jones
I've learned to judge these before I even said.
I bet this stack's 40 articles, and then it's like 43 articles.
I've learned to judge this.
This is 500 articles.
jordan holmes
It's not.
alex jones
This is a good 500.
jordan holmes
Where?
dan friesen
He has them all in...
unidentified
Where?
jordan holmes
Are they stacked?
dan friesen
He has them all on the desk in front of him.
jordan holmes
Does he have 500 tabs open on his Chrome?
dan friesen
He has them all in front of him on his desk, and they are printed out articles.
I don't know if there's 500 of them, but I will tell you this.
500 articles is way too much to ever cover.
You can't.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
You can't get into any of the substance of it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Do you know how much a ream of paper weighs?
dan friesen
I do, actually, because I used to work at Office Depot.
jordan holmes
Right.
Very heavy.
That's 200 sheets, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Now, put two of those on top of each other.
And then cut Alex Jones in half.
dan friesen
Alex as I am.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
There we go.
That's how many Alex Jones has read.
One half of his entire body.
dan friesen
So spoiler alert, he doesn't get through these articles.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
But it's the most boring, stupid fucking show I've ever sat through.
Because here's what he does.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He has all these articles and...
jordan holmes
Does he ever reveal what he's not done successfully in the past?
dan friesen
Just getting into the weeds.
Getting through all the articles, I think is what he was saying.
jordan holmes
Oh.
dan friesen
Because he always interrupts himself or goes on tangents, so he tries to just read off the headlines of all of these articles to try and prove his point.
jordan holmes
Does he get to 500?
dan friesen
I didn't count.
jordan holmes
Okay, well, let's listen to all of it.
dan friesen
Here is what he is not telling you.
All of them are Infowars.com articles.
Not all of them, but I would say 85 to 90% are Infowars or Prison Planet.
jordan holmes
That is just fucking synergy is what that is.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
That is a little drudge.
Multi-level marketing right there.
dan friesen
And then he has one article that's called The History of Mercantilism.
jordan holmes
Oh, well that sounds fascinating.
dan friesen
Well, but he's like, this is a real dense article about economics, and you know what?
We're not going to get into that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, of course not.
No, no, no.
Dense is not his style.
dan friesen
Hey, my man, you didn't read it.
So anyway.
jordan holmes
He can't define the word mercantilism.
dan friesen
I always thought it had something to do with clothing.
jordan holmes
I mean, it does.
dan friesen
You have to wear clothing.
jordan holmes
But in a tertiary way.
dan friesen
Well, selling clothing via ships.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but I mean, there's other stuff.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There's like, you know, the big one is tea.
You know, the East India.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I apologize.
There was a weird lapse there because I was biting my nail.
jordan holmes
All right, this is going to be a bad episode if you're biting nails already.
dan friesen
Don't worry about it.
unidentified
Let's get to some of these headlines.
alex jones
And I was supposed to pick the kids up in about an hour and a half, so I said it'd be a two-hour broadcast.
I better just shut up and actually just read these headlines and then not comment on them because I always comment and then never get to the next story.
But just imagine at night in the morning and getting here and then they're just bringing me in more stuff and more clips and it's very frustrating.
jordan holmes
What does reading the headlines of articles accomplish?
dan friesen
It gives you what news he wants you to hear without knowing what the actual story is.
jordan holmes
Does he think it's an accomplishment to read the headlines of 500 articles?
dan friesen
Apparently, yeah.
jordan holmes
Because that's not how articles work.
dan friesen
No, and especially not on Infowars.com where they sensationalize everything and lie in headlines.
jordan holmes
Isn't it supposed to be the...
That's literally like reading a library but only reading the names of all the books.
dan friesen
It's judging a book by its cover.
Or like back in the day when BuzzFeed just had lists.
It's like, oh, I read that list.
They've improved.
jordan holmes
We all have lists.
That's all we do now.
We're lists.
alex jones
Because it's like, no wonder we're under such tyranny.
How do you keep track of all this?
But just imagine the palette politically this creates when you're actually not just the headline, but reading five or six paragraphs on these and then knowing the backstory.
Comparing that to other people, I mean, let's just say it.
I don't think anybody reads more news than I do.
I mean, I'm sure there's people out there that do, but people on air, they just pick a few points to sound smart about it.
They have a teleprompter and it's loaded and they sit there and try to sound smart.
I'm not saying I'm that great.
I'm just simply saying the only person I know reads as much news is maybe Ron Paul or Donald Trump and then see how successful they are.
So it's not just that we're buying into their propaganda.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
I'm barking.
I'm very angry.
dan friesen
My window is open.
The neighbors are going to be so scared.
Yeah, so no one reads more news than Alex.
jordan holmes
Nobody reads more news than Alex Jones.
dan friesen
The first article he puts up.
jordan holmes
No one on this planet, aside from maybe Ron Paul.
dan friesen
Or Donald Trump.
And you see how successful they are.
jordan holmes
Donald Trump can't read.
He can't read.
Everybody shut up.
He cannot read.
dan friesen
That's why he just watches cable news.
jordan holmes
He is...
And here's what I was actually thinking on the way here.
I don't think...
So I don't use this word.
I think it's often offensive.
dan friesen
Guys, this is a really big lead-up here.
jordan holmes
If used incorrectly, this is an offensive word, but I do believe that Donald Trump is retarded.
dan friesen
Like in the delayed sense.
jordan holmes
I think he was trapped.
In the soul, or in the brain space of a 12-year-old child.
dan friesen
A rich 12-year-old child.
jordan holmes
And he just happened to have millions and millions of dollars.
And so that's all he's done.
He is retarded.
He does not know anything more than what a 7th grader would know.
dan friesen
It appears that he's at least not very capable of abstract thought.
jordan holmes
He's a fucking idiot.
dan friesen
Yeah, and it sucks to say that.
I don't say that as an attack.
I say that as an analysis.
jordan holmes
No, it's not an attack.
It's a tragedy.
He's an idiot in the way that we were all bummed out whenever the Twin Towers fell.
dan friesen
But he wasn't.
jordan holmes
That's how stupid he is.
He was the Twin Towers falling of intellect.
dan friesen
Do you remember what his response was?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He's fucking driving up his goddamn rent.
dan friesen
No, he was on TV and he said, now my building is the tallest in New York.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
That's the shit.
God, I...
dan friesen
What an asshole.
jordan holmes
Why are we...
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Can't we just get rid of his advisors?
dan friesen
That'd be great.
jordan holmes
Or even better.
Let's build a fake White House.
dan friesen
He already has.
It's called the Winter White House.
jordan holmes
Right, but here's what we do.
dan friesen
Or Southern White House now.
jordan holmes
Okay, we build a fake White House.
We build a fake press corps.
We put all of his people in there.
dan friesen
You're talking Truman Show now.
jordan holmes
And we just have him Truman Show.
Let's turn it into a reality show, but actually give the government to people who aren't...
dan friesen
A bunch of nerds?
jordan holmes
Yeah, a bunch of nerds.
Let's go with nerds.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Give it to nerds.
And then we'll just watch him because he's hilarious.
If he didn't have an impact on our lives, God, he's the funniest man alive.
dan friesen
So Alex also is pretty funny, but we also know that he's a policy wonk.
And a voracious reader.
Yes.
No one reads more news.
jordan holmes
No one reads more news.
dan friesen
So his first article is about how Ivanka Trump's line is doing well, despite the backlash, despite the protests.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
Wonderful.
jordan holmes
Fucking wonderful.
dan friesen
His argument is that everyone hates the globalists so much that they try and boycott her products, and it only helps her.
So that's his first bit of news, and then he gets to this a little bit later.
alex jones
Let's continue.
Ted Nugent discusses a possible U.S. Senate vote in 2018 in Michigan.
We got him set up for the show on Monday.
jordan holmes
Great.
alex jones
We're going to definitely be back on that for the Motor City Madman between his time in Texas and Michigan to return to that great state.
dan friesen
He reads the headline wrong.
He says a Senate vote.
He meant Senate run.
jordan holmes
Wait, he's...
dan friesen
Nugent wants to run.
jordan holmes
Nugent wants to run.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The guy who is notorious for saying the N-word all the time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The guy who often goes on stage with guns and is like, Nancy Pelosi, suck my gun!
jordan holmes
You know what?
Fuck it.
Give him the seat.
I don't even care anymore.
Look, we're already burning it down.
Throw Nugent on there.
I don't give a shit.
Let's put all of Chicago in the, and I mean the band.
Let's put all of Chicago, the Eagles.
Our House of Representatives should just be faded 80s rock stars.
dan friesen
Well, Kid Rock wants to run, too.
unidentified
In.
dan friesen
Those guys are both Detroit guys.
jordan holmes
Fred Durst, in.
Who else you got?
dan friesen
Fred Durst would have to run in Florida, I think.
jordan holmes
Scott Stapp?
dan friesen
Yeah, we welcome you into the Senate with arms wide open.
So, I mean, that's problematic as hell, but I'm not going to play tons of clips of him just reading headlines, because that's boring.
jordan holmes
Because why?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's super boring.
jordan holmes
Why did he play him reading headlines?
dan friesen
Because he wanted to show, I think he wanted to show you and I that he's in the weeds.
jordan holmes
That's like him being like, hey guys.
I'm going to show you this video of me brushing my teeth, but it's going to be left-handed!
I've never been able to do it before!
dan friesen
But it's better for you somehow!
So he has this clip where he actually literally...
jordan holmes
Blue toothpaste!
dan friesen
This has to do with the Russian ships off the coast.
jordan holmes
Which is, yeah.
dan friesen
What's fun about this clip is, within the span of about a minute...
He literally contradicts himself.
And he doesn't even realize he's doing it.
jordan holmes
Of course not.
dan friesen
Which is gorgeous.
So listen for this.
alex jones
Like Trump said, you think I'm going to be tough on Russia?
It's Hillary got the uranium money.
I have no connection.
What the hell is this?
dan friesen
Also, just to stop by really quick, that is such a misrepresentation of what happened with that uranium deal.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's insane, the idea that like, oh yeah, Hillary sold the uranium.
That's not what happened at all.
It was also a Canadian company.
jordan holmes
In that press conference, we found out that Trump...
Just learned what mutually assured destruction means.
dan friesen
It's bad stuff.
jordan holmes
He just learned that.
dan friesen
It's a fate like none other.
jordan holmes
Did you guys hear about nuclear weapons?
Do you know what they can do?
dan friesen
Uranium is used for bad stuff.
jordan holmes
It's used for bad stuff.
Lock her up.
alex jones
It's like, are you going to do something about a ship that's 15 miles off the coast?
Trump's like, okay, they got like 50 submarines off our coast.
We got like 100 off theirs, 100 ships.
I mean, what does that mean?
Yeah, and they got nuclear cruise missiles in too, dumbass.
Sir, they're off our coast with nuclear weapons.
Yeah, that's how this works.
We should de-escalate it.
Yeah, they're off the coast with a signal ship to pick up incoming so submarines can pop up and fire hundreds of cruise missiles at us and turn the east coast into a molten slag heap.
Stop trying to start a fight!
McCain, who doesn't know what day it is and has prank callers calling him up and he thinks he's the prime minister of Ukraine.
Let me tell you, learn what's going on before you try to run the world.
dan friesen
So, from this first part of the clip, he's talking about how Russia has signal ships that can relay messages.
jordan holmes
And then they can nuclear weapon us.
dan friesen
They can turn the East Coast into a heap.
jordan holmes
Yes.
And we know that's bad.
dan friesen
I didn't edit this at all.
This is the next headline he reads.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Russian spy ship on a direct threat.
Pentagon says, yeah, no kidding.
Russia has one ship on our East Coast and we've got like hundreds on theirs.
This is horrible.
Give me a break.
dan friesen
That's a literal contradiction of the words that just came out of his mouth.
He's talking about how these ships are there and they can signal also existing submarines that will destroy the East Coast.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
The next story is...
jordan holmes
There's only one ship.
dan friesen
And it's not a threat.
Of course it's not a threat.
jordan holmes
How?
Ah!
dan friesen
He's like a...
jordan holmes
Ah!
Legitimately.
Cognitive dissonance is actually Alex Jones' middle name.
dan friesen
He's legitimately like a dog.
He just sees what's up here and is like, oh, I've got to respond to that.
There's no short-term or long-term memory.
jordan holmes
Now, if I think of him as a cute little puppy, I feel so much better.
dan friesen
But that's a loud fucking puppy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, it's an annoying puppy, but he's so cute.
He looks like a Sharpay.
He's got folds of fat all over the place.
dan friesen
Also, shout out to our main man, Far Out.
It made us a nice logo.
We may use it.
Possibly could use it.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
But a big thank you.
We always love some nice fan art.
jordan holmes
And it's really cool.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's really awesome.
And thank you to everybody who's joined up and has subscribed.
I'm seeing these numbers grow.
And it really is heartening.
Much like Obama seeing protests.
Tell your friends.
jordan holmes
And much like a 60 degree day in February in Chicago.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
You know.
A totally normal thing that happens.
dan friesen
It's very heartening.
jordan holmes
Oh, it makes me feel like...
dan friesen
Remember how there was a blizzard in May last year?
This is cool.
jordan holmes
I love unpredictable weather.
dan friesen
Yeah, I like how I took down the plastic from my window.
I'm gonna get horse fucked in like two weeks.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
So anyway, now it's time to get to the actual Friday show.
That was the after show that he put out on Friday.
If you want to go watch it, I highly don't recommend it, but it's just tons of him trying to read headlines and...
Just fucking it up.
Just completely fucking it up.
jordan holmes
I'm gonna guess he did not actually have 500 there.
dan friesen
He's learned to judge the stacks, as he mentioned earlier.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I mean, sure.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Stacks on stacks on stacks.
dan friesen
Alex starts off Friday's show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
By having a new directive about what we need to do about the media.
jordan holmes
The prime directive?
dan friesen
Yes, it is.
jordan holmes
Non-interference?
alex jones
We're set to win.
jordan holmes
God damn it.
alex jones
We have to decide that we are not going to live under the deception of a term that I thought of this morning, and I'm sure because it's such an obvious term that other people thought of it as well.
But it just hit me and I tweeted it out.
Maybe we can pull that tweet up.
That the official name of MSM shouldn't just be fake news because they can throw that back and forth on new independent media journalists, investigative journalists, just somebody that videotapes something that the government doesn't want seen.
jordan holmes
Wait, something that the government doesn't want seen is fake news?
dan friesen
Well, they can throw that at them.
You know, you could accuse that of being fake news.
Like video of cops killing people or something?
unidentified
Fake news.
jordan holmes
There's no reality anymore.
We are all living in this fantastical dream world.
dan friesen
We're so far through the looking glass.
jordan holmes
This is such pure, pure, bald-faced insanity.
dan friesen
It's one of those things where I've been starting to wrestle with this.
I don't really know if there's any way home.
jordan holmes
No, there's none.
dan friesen
I don't think we can click our glass slippers together and wish ourselves back.
jordan holmes
There's no going back.
dan friesen
Even if, you know, he ends up getting impeached and we try and right the ship, I think the damage is done.
jordan holmes
Oh, no, there's no going back.
It's too late.
It's too late.
All of the rules he broke are forever broken.
There's a template now for breaking the rules.
America, it turns out, is nothing.
It took zero to destroy us.
dan friesen
He's absolutely illustrated that you can just break rules with impunity and no one's gonna stop you.
unidentified
No one has his goddamn tax returns!
dan friesen
Yep, you're right.
jordan holmes
Yep, sorry.
dan friesen
Your yelling is scaring me.
jordan holmes
I know, I'm sorry.
dan friesen
It's alright.
jordan holmes
We're still, we're still, we're still.
dan friesen
We're still?
jordan holmes
We're still waiting.
dan friesen
For the tax returns?
unidentified
They aren't coming.
jordan holmes
The ones that are almost...
He's already president.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He's already president.
dan friesen
He is.
jordan holmes
He can release them.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
He's already...
He has an advisor who committed treason.
dan friesen
Light.
jordan holmes
Who committed light treason.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Who lied to the FBI.
Uh-huh.
He can just do it.
Nobody's going to stop him.
Now I just want to know how...
Fucked we are.
dan friesen
You want to know how deep it goes?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, I think that's the reason he can't, is that it's probably like Olympic swimming pool deep.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's so deep.
dan friesen
It's high dive deep.
jordan holmes
He actually has a Putin-shaped dildo up his ass all day.
dan friesen
And that's in the tax returns.
jordan holmes
That's in the tax returns.
dan friesen
Well, he had to write off the dildo.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, that's a business expense.
dan friesen
So anyway, here's the term that he came up with, and he's really fucking proud that he came up with it.
alex jones
You can throw it on them.
You've got to have something that ties them, the globalists, the big corporate collaborator media, to the fact that they're the mainstream media and that known term.
And so it's the fake stream media.
unidentified
Nailed it.
That's it.
alex jones
That's the name.
I've been searching and searching and searching and searching.
dan friesen
I agree with him.
Puns are hard.
You know, like, sometimes I'll sit around and I'll be like, huh, how do I play with words?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
God, it's hard.
Fuck, it's hard.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I like fake news, and I know there's a mainstream media out there.
Let's go with fake media news stream.
dan friesen
So close.
jordan holmes
No.
Let's go with false media.
Media stream.
Ooh, too wordy.
Yeah, too much.
Let's go with...
Lies on, lies on, balls on my face.
No?
All right.
Fake stream media it is.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's so pathetic.
The idea that he's been looking and looking.
jordan holmes
He was so proud of himself.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Guys.
dan friesen
He puts on his screen that's behind him the tweet, and he's just like, look at this thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like he won a prize.
Yeah, or no, like he built a statue.
Like he's a Greek, he's the new Michelangelo.
Painting the walls of the Sistine Chapel.
dan friesen
This term will live on when I'm dead.
This will be my great work.
jordan holmes
I swear to God it probably will.
dan friesen
So he has some thoughts about Twitter and how they're censoring Trump and what he sees on Twitter.
It's all colossal bullshit.
jordan holmes
They're censoring what Trump sees?
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't know if he explains it fully in here, but what he believes...
jordan holmes
Because you can't.
dan friesen
Yeah, what he believes is that Twitter is juking their algorithm.
So whenever you look at a tweet, like if you expand one of his tweets, all of the responses that you see are negative.
Alex's theory is that Twitter is doing this intentionally so the president feels alone.
Aww.
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Aww, poor Donald Trump.
dan friesen
It's impossible.
jordan holmes
Also, does he not get that most of the world is pretty much on the side of Hope Trump?
Dies?
dan friesen
Well, not hope he dies, but hope this...
jordan holmes
I am totally...
We're past that.
We're past that.
I'm on the hope he dies.
dan friesen
You and I are on slightly different sides of this because I think that would cause more trouble than it helps.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I don't even know anymore.
I don't even know anymore.
dan friesen
You're on burn it down and run away.
jordan holmes
I'm on burn it down.
I don't even know anymore.
dan friesen
So there's one possibility, and that is that Twitter is juking their algorithm like this, or the other possibility, which is equally likely in my eyes, maybe more likely, is that there is an upswing in people negatively responding to the bullshit that flies out of his mouth.
jordan holmes
It seems odd.
unidentified
Possibly.
jordan holmes
It seems odd.
It turns out that when you make up terrorist attacks in Sweden...
Yeah.
People are like, nah.
dan friesen
Well, to be fair, when he was talking about that in Sweden, he was talking about a Tucker Carlson piece that ran on Fox News.
So he wasn't talking about an actual terrorist attack.
He was talking about a news report that he saw on Fox News the day before about how crimes made by immigrants are on the rise in Sweden.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Much better.
unidentified
So our president watches TV.
alex jones
A lot.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Some people have said up to six hours a day.
jordan holmes
Kill us.
dan friesen
Anyway, here's the clip.
jordan holmes
Now I'm on let Trump live and just get me out of here.
dan friesen
Just end this experiment.
Just kill me.
jordan holmes
Just let it go.
alex jones
Again, if you go back just a month ago on my Twitter, all the comments, like 97% were positive.
You go to YouTube, it'll get like a 96, 97% on average, sometimes 99% upvote.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
dan friesen
I've also looked at, you know, they have that Twitter audit that people do?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I think it's about a third of Alex's followers are fake.
And about a third of Prison Planet.
That's Paul Joseph Watson's Twitter.
jordan holmes
Right.
PJ Dubs.
dan friesen
Those are also fake.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But I mean, those numbers are a few years old.
I don't know if it's changed since then.
But I would assume that the trend is about that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
You'd think.
And so, I mean, I think there are a lot of people.
There's a lot of bots involved.
Yeah.
In their online presence.
jordan holmes
Yeah, very clearly.
unidentified
Anyway.
alex jones
And they're having trouble gaming that because that's just a solid vote.
But when it comes to Twitter, just like you see with Trump, Paul wrote about it yesterday, the first few hundred are negative.
They just stack it with an algorithm to say, you're an idiot to shout you down like you're under peer pressure.
Like, oh my gosh, I'm not getting good feedback now because...
Zuckerberg's been talking about this and one of his manifestos is out.
He thinks we're so stupid we won't read it.
He admits, I'm going to track your private communications.
I'm going to rip you off.
I'm going to hurt you.
dan friesen
He thinks that Zuckerberg legit wants to hurt you.
unidentified
Through algorithms.
jordan holmes
Does he know what an algorithm is?
dan friesen
What's interesting is that there have been stories that have come out about them selectively experimenting with what you see on your Facebook wall.
Like, what types of stories you see from your friends, which friends you see, and it is kind of fucked up.
Social media is kind of fucked up.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
They do do fucked up stuff, but I don't think this is one of them.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Also, I don't like him...
jordan holmes
How would you even begin to write an algorithm that targets negative responses, but only for Trump?
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Wouldn't it have to then apply to so many other people?
dan friesen
I don't know if that is necessarily where the issue is.
jordan holmes
Of course it's not.
dan friesen
I think that you'd have a difficult time having a robot figure out what is a positive and a negative response.
jordan holmes
That's a really good point.
dan friesen
Because tone and irony isn't going to be able to be picked up.
jordan holmes
Unless the globalists have invented...
A robot that can pass the Turing test and also trolls Trump.
There are two things I want the globalists to get to work on right now.
An algorithm that can pass the Turing test and also troll Trump.
dan friesen
I am a human algorithm.
So fucking stupid.
jordan holmes
I want it to then start tweeting negatively at Trump.
dan friesen
Oh, that would be amazing.
jordan holmes
You are a bad president.
dan friesen
Oh my god, it's off the reservation.
unidentified
The human algorithm has gone rogue.
jordan holmes
Trump bot 2.0.
dan friesen
He says a little bit more about this, and then he gets into one of our favorite things here on the podcast, which is a stupid impression.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
alex jones
These people are predators.
They're super predators.
So they can't...
jordan holmes
Call out to Bill Clinton.
alex jones
Just their disdain.
You go watch a movie, you know, a comic book movie, and it shows the villain going, I will destroy them.
jordan holmes
Oh, yes.
alex jones
That's actually what it's like when you're dealing with megalomaniacs.
jordan holmes
I mean, you're making that voice.
alex jones
You grow up as a kid thinking, oh, that's just cartoons, but real villains actually go, oh, I'm going to screw everyone over.
I'll destroy everyone.
Everyone will be poor.
Me, I'll run everything.
I mean, that's who these people are.
And we'll have suicide nets around the Apple factories and drug everyone and then just shoot them in the back of the head and throw them in a gutter when we're done and sell everybody's organs and everything.
I'm in full control.
jordan holmes
He just jerked off, didn't he?
That's how he comes.
alex jones
I got stacks of it here today.
Just where they're just throwing it in your face.
It's amazing.
unidentified
But when we come back, I'm going to hit it all.
jordan holmes
It is amazing.
alex jones
The press conference to end all press conferences, but watch the next one will be even better.
unidentified
Wow.
alex jones
He just smoothly walked down and absolutely butchered them and just made a big joke out of the MSM or the fake stream media.
But just look at that.
How now everywhere it's to make us feel bad because they don't want us to be verified and realize that we're the majority and the world's waking up and nationalism is taking place so they admit that they're, quote, rolling out massive censorship against nationalists, against populists, and against patriots.
I mean, this is a true information war.
dan friesen
He doesn't get to these articles.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
Even on that special that we talked about at the beginning, he doesn't really...
He does not get to articles that lay it all out.
jordan holmes
How many times do you think he says fake stream media in this episode?
dan friesen
I would say...
jordan holmes
Below 100 or above?
dan friesen
I would say it's in the 50 range.
jordan holmes
He really hammers it.
What you're saying is fake stream media is in play.
dan friesen
It is in play on his end.
It's like fetch.
From mean girls.
jordan holmes
So wait, so he's saying that Trump doesn't want them verified.
Does he mean the blue check mark?
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, friend.
jordan holmes
Okay, sorry, sorry?
dan friesen
The globalists don't want nationalists to feel verified in their own opinions.
I think what he meant is validated.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Yeah, I was going to say, I thought he meant the blue checkmark.
dan friesen
On Twitter it has a very specific connotation.
jordan holmes
He wants every Pepe the Frogs have a blue checkmark right next to it?
dan friesen
Why not?
jordan holmes
At this point.
dan friesen
Like, five of my friends have checkmarks.
jordan holmes
It's so hard not to be nihilist right now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's like, who gives a shit?
It's Twitter.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, and they're losing stock, so maybe we'll be free of them once and for all.
dan friesen
Maybe we can get a checkmark.
We've got, like, 40 followers.
jordan holmes
Follow us at knowledge underscore fight dot com.
dan friesen
The number of listeners we have compared to how many Twitter followers we have is crazy.
jordan holmes
I am 100% fine with it.
dan friesen
I'm all right with it, too, but we got, like, it's really easy for someone who doesn't like us to attack us.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, oh, you dumbasses with 40 followers.
Yeah, but you should see our downloads.
They're pretty decent.
jordan holmes
Dude, dude, that's not your defense.
No, it's not.
Your defense should be, yeah, and then done.
dan friesen
That's fair.
jordan holmes
It's that easy, yeah.
You're 100% correct.
Goodbye.
dan friesen
You know what?
I think I'm projecting that other people are bullying me maybe a little bit, and that's not healthy.
jordan holmes
That's your victimhood.
dan friesen
But you know what?
Who feels it more in his life?
jordan holmes
What, do you want a safe space?
I got a man lurking on a college campus waiting for you.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
I hope he has pills.
jordan holmes
No, he doesn't.
None of the good ones.
dan friesen
But you know who feels more bullied than me?
jordan holmes
Who?
dan friesen
Fucking Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
How?
dan friesen
He has a lot of thoughts about how the globalists are a bully cult.
alex jones
You know what?
It's a bullying cult.
I agreed to let the New York Times come here for a piece because some of my sources say that this business writer is somewhat fair.
So I said, okay, I'll do an occasional piece.
We get requests every day, obviously, from the New York Times, you name it.
jordan holmes
He doesn't.
dan friesen
He doesn't.
But also, get ready for...
You know how we have this thread that goes throughout where he tells stories that didn't happen?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is an excellent version of that.
This story didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And when he's done telling it...
I would really like to explain what I imagine happened.
jordan holmes
Can we verify that this even happened?
The business...
No, we can't...
dan friesen
I can't.
jordan holmes
So the New York Times...
We've emailed the New York Times for comment, and they have said no comment.
dan friesen
We are not journalists.
That is not our job.
jordan holmes
Perhaps better yet...
No response.
I don't believe they would email us back.
dan friesen
Hey guys, fuck off.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
New York Times is like, we don't care.
jordan holmes
How many followers do you guys have?
40?
The answer is no response.
dan friesen
So yeah, here's some fun fan fiction about this New York Times.
alex jones
Almost every day for the New York Times.
unidentified
Nope.
alex jones
Hundreds of writers.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
alex jones
And the lady comes, she's a local Austin photographer.
jordan holmes
That's not a writer.
alex jones
And she does it for the New York Times, and she's real nice here, about 45 minutes.
And then she's leaving, and I said, hey, give me your card or your info, and sometime maybe take photos for us.
She said, oh, for money, right?
She'd been real nice until that point.
And I said, well, of course, yeah, we pay people.
And I was like, oh, are you, oh, because we're Trump supporters, you probably could?
She goes, yeah, I can't be politically involved or something like that.
And I said, even when I put your name on it, I said, I'm not begging you to come take photos for us, but, you know.
Is that you're being bullied?
You might lose your liberal contracts?
And she was just basically, without saying yes, kind of nodded her head.
I just looked at her and it just was a bad feeling that we're in a cult.
dan friesen
I mean, I think it's possible that the New York Times came.
It's possible that there was a reporter there.
jordan holmes
That's not a reporter, it was a photographer.
dan friesen
It's possible that all that is true.
But I think a more realistic version of what happened was...
This photographer probably was like, oh, fuck, I gotta go take pictures of Alex Jones.
And then she shows up and she's like, I don't want to engage.
And he's like, hey, you should come take some pictures for us.
And not because the liberal establishment will bully her.
She's like, I don't want to get involved here.
You guys are nuts.
You guys are...
This can't end well.
jordan holmes
Knowing what we know about him, it was not a, hey, you could take pictures for us.
It was more like a, hey.
You know, you could come.
You're going to take your pictures for us.
dan friesen
Yeah, I'd like to give you some super female vitality on the house.
Turn your pussy into a log flume.
It'll be so wet.
So wet.
jordan holmes
Don't, don't.
dan friesen
It'll be like Magic Mountain.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
The visual that you just gave me.
dan friesen
Well, I'm just trying to imagine how Alex Jones might sexually harass somebody.
And it has to involve super female vitality.
Which you can get now at Infowarsstore.com.
unidentified
Hey, this toothpaste also functions as lubricant, you guys.
jordan holmes
My dad makes it and he fucked my mom.
I shouldn't be telling you this.
dan friesen
Listen, it's in the papers.
I've got to report on it.
jordan holmes
It's in the white papers.
dan friesen
I should say that actually that toothpaste Super Blue would not work as lube.
He does make a...
jordan holmes
Yeah, to be 100% fair to Super Blue, it could not be used as lubricant.
dan friesen
He makes a big deal about how it's thick and substantial.
It's like, remember back when toothpaste was thick?
jordan holmes
Cool, cool, cool, cool.
That's gross.
How do you make toothpaste gross like that?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That's a skill.
dan friesen
This photographer thing didn't happen the way he thinks it did.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
And it's so fascinating.
The paranoia is...
Everywhere.
unidentified
I asked her if she was being bullied, and she didn't say yes, but kind of nodded.
jordan holmes
She gave me the liberal media, the fake stream media is bullying me wink.
dan friesen
Slightly nod if the answer is yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Blink your left eye once if yes.
Blink your right eye twice if no.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I mean, it's absurd.
It's absurd fan fiction about his own life.
jordan holmes
So, based on that, I would assume that an actual photographer came.
unidentified
Right?
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
That seems the weirder thing to make up.
If it was a photographer, because he spent all this time talking about writers, how he gets 100 requests a day, and New York Times, and hundreds, you know, that whole thing.
The fact that it was one photographer lady that showed up, and when she got the assignment, that day must have been such a bummer for her.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I also think that if he is lying and making it up out of whole cloth, the narrative that I had a writer come and I tried to get him to write stuff for us, that's a harder sell.
Then a photographer, like, hey, you just want to freelance with us?
Like, a writer would actually have to care and, like, be on the same page as them.
A photographer could just be doing, like...
jordan holmes
But in our history of Alex Jones making up things whole cloth, he does not go halfway.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That is too believable for him.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's true.
jordan holmes
If it were him making it up whole cloth, it would literally be Woodward and Bernstein.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Knocking down his door, going...
We can't wait to write for InfoWars, but we're a little bit afraid because of the globalists.
dan friesen
He keeps talking about how much Seymour Hersh loves him.
To this next clip, he tells a story.
jordan holmes
So does Emile Hersh, Judd Hersh, all the Hershes.
dan friesen
All the Hersh clan.
jordan holmes
And why not all the Baldwins?
dan friesen
Even the one who's not related.
The one who's in DC camp.
jordan holmes
Adam Baldwin.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The one from Firefly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So this next clip, he tries to make a point using a law that never existed, and then he conflates reality with a movie and does another fucking wild impression.
jordan holmes
I love his impression.
alex jones
And Trump goes out in his press conference, the second one, and just goes, look, got the coal miners here, and we're going to do this, and the media all spins it.
Trump signs Bill undoing Obama coal mining rule, and then the media spins it to allow them to dump toxic waste in rivers.
That's completely illegal.
They have big contained slurry pools that they put it into.
And then every once in a while one of them breaks.
That's what happens with industry and life on this planet.
But they're trying to say any water runoff period is illegal, making it impossible.
Remember like six years ago Obama wanted to ban dust in farming?
Any dust was like $3,000 fines and the next one was $20,000 and it just went up.
dan friesen
So I looked into that.
jordan holmes
Any dust?
dan friesen
The idea that Obama wanted to ban dust.
jordan holmes
You would have to define dust really well if you wanted to successfully ban it.
dan friesen
This is an article from 2011.
Earlier this year, Republicans found what they saw as an ideal talking point to illustrate a federal bureaucracy gone batty.
The Environmental Protection Agency, they warned, was trying to regulate something only God could control: the dust in the wind.
"Now here comes my favorite part of the crazy regulatory acts.
The EPA is now proposing rules to regulate dust," Representative John Carter of Texas said on the House floor.
"He said Texas is full of dusty roads.
The EPA is now saying you can be fined for driving home every night in your garage." If you are a representative from Texas, you're automatically an idiot.
unidentified
Well...
jordan holmes
I have yet...
I have yet to hear a single...
dan friesen
Wasn't Kinky Friedman in the house for a little while?
He kept running for mayor, I think.
Anyway, there was just one flaw in this argument.
It was not true.
jordan holmes
That is a big flaw, though.
dan friesen
The EPA's new dust rule did not exist, and it never did.
jordan holmes
Oh my god.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Do you remember when this thing that didn't happen happened?
I hated it.
dan friesen
I hated it.
Still, the specter of this rule has spurred three bills to prevent it, one of which was approved Thursday by a House subcommittee.
It sparked a late-night battle on the Senate floor.
GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain cited it in a debate as a reason to eliminate the EPA.
The hubbub over this phantom rule, surely one of the most controversial regulations that never was, involved a slow-moving federal agency and a Republican Party with the EPA in its crosshairs.
It never existed.
jordan holmes
If that weren't so completely and utterly evil, the fact that they still get away with shit like that is truly amazing.
I mean, you read the old...
The first thing that came to mind was reading The Art of War.
And at no point in The Art of War was he just like, Hey man, make shit up.
I don't know.
Fucking, you'll probably win.
There's probably an army.
Who fucking gives a shit?
Ah!
Like, there's no way Sun Tzu could have figured out that you could just pretend and win.
dan friesen
Yeah, and especially if you repeat the pretend thing over and over again.
People just start to accept it as short.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they just start to believe it.
dan friesen
Much like how Alex constantly says that the Chinese are trying to buy Hollywood.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's based on a lie, but he keeps repeating it to the point where people get used to hearing it, and they're like, oh, I remember him talking about that.
jordan holmes
And it's a talking point.
dan friesen
But he never proved it.
jordan holmes
What's my source?
My source was that I heard it a bunch.
dan friesen
But that's even what he sources on...
jordan holmes
Is himself saying it.
dan friesen
Repeatedly.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So actually, one of the things I think I'm going to do is take his talking points, and on our Tumblr...
Every now and again, I'm just going to thoroughly break down why it's bullshit.
So then, in the future, when it comes up on episodes, I can be like, you can go to our Tumblr and read an exhaustive breakdown about why the Chinese aren't trying to buy Hollywood.
jordan holmes
So what you're saying is we are going to reference ourselves for the truth?
dan friesen
Yep.
Fight fire with fire, baby!
jordan holmes
We're going to cite our own sources, and our sources are us telling him he's full of shit.
dan friesen
But the issue is, and the difference will be, that I will link to an incredible amount of...
Primary resources.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, here's my advice to you.
Link to headlines.
dan friesen
That's not a bad idea.
jordan holmes
Just like you have those Twitter where they take a screenshot of their notes.
Just put a bunch of links to us just transcripting saying, like, not true.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Jordan Holmes was quoted as saying, this is not true.
unidentified
Jordan Holmes was quoted as saying, as a...
jordan holmes
And that's our response.
dan friesen
So back to the EPA thing, just to make this even worse.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
To actually change the rules for dust on farms, the EPA would have to formally propose a new rule.
And as of March, EPA Administrator Lisa P. Jackson said she was not likely to do that.
Quote, we have no plans to do so, Jackson said.
jordan holmes
That's just what the globalist wants you to think.
dan friesen
Yep.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
But just think for two seconds.
Think for two seconds.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Just two seconds.
What?
Is dust.
dan friesen
Uh, dirt.
jordan holmes
It's all kinds of shit.
dan friesen
How?
Dead skin.
jordan holmes
How could you possibly outlaw dust without...
Turning it into, like, everything is just a purely clean zone.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Everybody's covered in latex with fucking chemical baths all the time.
dan friesen
We'd all have to live in bubbles.
jordan holmes
You can't outlaw dust.
Even if you wanted to.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
Even if your dream was this OCD, and that's not to be...
dan friesen
Sure, sure.
jordan holmes
Actually, no, fuck it.
It's this OCD meth-addled dream of it's finally time to outlaw dust.
dan friesen
Finally.
jordan holmes
No one would...
Ever consider doing that.
dan friesen
Or trying to regulate it super harshly.
I mean, even take away the outlaw part.
Everyone understands that dirt and dust exist.
And maybe they're not the best.
Maybe it is an indication of lack of cleanliness.
But there's not really anything you can do about it.
jordan holmes
It's in the outside.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
In the desert.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're gonna get dust.
dan friesen
So Alex, in order to make his point about regulatory stuff gone wild, and in order to reinforce his point that what they're doing with coal mining shit isn't...
Polluting rivers and stuff like that, which it is.
Which they are.
100%.
jordan holmes
All the time.
And that was the rule that they just got rid of.
The only rule that you...
There can be no way you're against it.
There can be no human being who's like, you know what?
I hate that rule that keeps coal miners...
From throwing shit into our drinking water.
How can these people be so terrified of fluoride in their drinking water and yet love fucking coal?
Coal makes me warm.
Coal makes me drink good.
What?
dan friesen
Well, there's a couple things.
One, if you believe this bullshit about regulatory shit gone wild, then you might assume that this dumping shit into a river...
Regulation is the same thing.
It's just like that long dust.
jordan holmes
Those were my favorite commercials at around one of the morning.
dan friesen
Regulatory shit gone wild.
jordan holmes
Regulatory girls gone wild.
dan friesen
Just pantsuits and titties.
unidentified
So...
jordan holmes
That would have gotten Hillary elected.
That slogan, pantsuits and titties, I would have voted for her twice.
dan friesen
Maybe not.
jordan holmes
Who gives a shit?
I'm in.
Why not?
We're voting for clowns now.
Fucking pantsuits and titties, I'm in.
dan friesen
So the other thing is that if you believe, like Alex does, that clean coal exists, then you would think, ah, it's all much ado about nothing.
Because he legitimately believes that there's clean enough coal that it's all it does when you use it is it puts out water vapor.
And that's not true.
jordan holmes
That's not possible.
dan friesen
It's not possible and it's not true.
jordan holmes
Just carbon dioxide and water vapor.
From a chemical standpoint, that's not a thing you can do.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
Clean coal, I'd love to get into it at some point, but it's not real in the way that people presenting it say it is.
jordan holmes
It is such a brilliant strategy.
There's cleaner coal.
It is a brilliant strategy to make a thing up.
That we have to respond to.
Because then you can get away with fucking anything.
If you're just making up like, hey, they're trying to outlaw dust.
Now I have to be like, no.
And that legitimizes that as just me saying, come on.
Stop it.
dan friesen
Do you remember the book The Phantom Tollbooth?
jordan holmes
I do.
dan friesen
When Milo was trying to...
Ooh, Milo.
When he was trying to get to rhyme and reason and free them from captivity.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
One of the monsters that he ran into on the way was the terrible Tribium.
unidentified
Yes!
dan friesen
And what he would do is like, he's like, alright, take that big pile of sand and put it over there one kernel at a time, one little piece of sand.
His basic thing was just like creating tasks for Milo to do that wasted his time that seemed like there was a point.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's kind of what Alex Jones does.
jordan holmes
It's pretty good.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's a brilliant strategy.
dan friesen
So here we are chasing grains of sand.
jordan holmes
Bog us down with lies.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So anyway, let's get further into this clip because we got a ways to go and we're almost at an hour.
jordan holmes
Of course.
alex jones
And then they said, we're banning child labor.
You can't take the trash out if you work on a farm.
Or you can't have somebody under the age of 16 go take eggs from the chickens.
jordan holmes
Come on.
dan friesen
So not true.
alex jones
Trying to further kill them.
And so the media's like, oh, Trump signed a thing where they can dump toxic waste in the water.
Oh, like the EPA didn't get in trouble?
Cyanide?
What?
From a big gold mine they basically ordered changes to and then it broke the dam.
Just like the Deepwater Horizon, BP just said, stop putting concrete in.
The executives believe water's needed.
And they go, sir, in 150 years of oil exploration, nobody's ever done that.
And the equations show it will blow up.
They said, shut up, you Texans and Louisianans.
You don't know nothing.
You'll see that movie.
It's absolutely word for word what was in the federal transcripts in the federal trough.
dan friesen
Now, he doesn't cite the actual transcripts, but what he does here now is performs a scene from the movie.
jordan holmes
Does he play Mark Wahlberg?
dan friesen
No, he plays Kurt Russell.
jordan holmes
He'd be a way better Mark Wahlberg.
dan friesen
To show that he's a policy wonk, instead of getting into the weeds about the actual details, he does a scene from the movie.
Enjoy this.
It's great.
alex jones
It's amazingly accurate.
Great movie.
Kurt Russell.
And they're like, sure, it will blow up.
unidentified
This is a $379 billion company.
Wow.
alex jones
And our British owners told us to do it.
It's going to be fine.
We're going to get billions more.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
It's going to blow up.
No, it's not.
Hey, McCain, you keep trying to have a war with Russia, you can end the planet.
Don't matter.
I'm going to do whatever I want.
jordan holmes
Whose voice is that now?
dan friesen
That's McCain.
alex jones
Spirit of just craziness.
And that's what we're dealing with.
So, it's just, how do I cover, today I've got like, let's not exaggerate, 300 articles or more.
unidentified
Still doesn't.
alex jones
And another stack on my desk of a couple hundred.
I mean, it's just, I could just talk for hours about this.
dan friesen
What is this?
jordan holmes
All of the articles.
dan friesen
No, but he could talk for hours about this, and he's referring to an impression of Kurt Russell?
jordan holmes
It was a great impression of Kurt Russell.
I assume that's the one from Escape from L.A.?
That was Kurt Russell as Snake Plissken?
dan friesen
I could talk for hours about this, and in the two minutes that we listened to of it, what he talked about was a federal regulation that never existed about regulating dust.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
A regulation about child labor that he's completely misinterpreting.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Saying you can't have your family members work on a farm.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what they were trying to outlaw.
Yeah, totally.
It's definitely not a straw man argument.
dan friesen
Not at all.
jordan holmes
It is a 100% real thing.
dan friesen
So could you imagine him talking for hours if in the time he allotted he just lied twice in order to justify the idea that regulations are crazy and that it's cool to pollute rivers?
jordan holmes
Yeah, because he can lie so many more times.
dan friesen
Me too.
jordan holmes
He can lie all the time.
dan friesen
If you just make up regulations, you can just do that forever.
jordan holmes
In that Kurt Russell voice?
dan friesen
They're a billion dollar company.
jordan holmes
I'm in a billion dollar company.
That was a Brooklyn queen from the 70s, wasn't it?
dan friesen
It was Mary Faye.
It was weird.
jordan holmes
What are we doing?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
How can you be against a company?
They're putting shit in your drinking water.
You can't be for that.
dan friesen
No, you can't.
jordan holmes
Even he's against it when he was like, hey, I think it's bad that they put arsenic in the water.
And it's like, hey, it's probably bad that they put fucking poisons in the water.
It's toxic waste.
It's toxic waste.
dan friesen
It's all bad.
jordan holmes
It's toxic waste.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But you know what?
Most of the time when you complain about things that business wants to do or the nationalists want to do or what the conservatives want to do, when you complain about that stuff, all you're doing is virtue signaling.
jordan holmes
I don't know what that means.
dan friesen
It's this idea.
Paul Joseph Watson talks about it all the time.
It's this idea that when you post something about Black Lives Matter or post something about reproductive rights and stuff like that on Facebook or on Twitter or even when you go and protest, you don't really care about the issue you're talking about.
All it is is you are trying to perform for your liberal friends and show that you're one of them.
So you're signaling your virtues through posts you're making and behaviors.
jordan holmes
You know, I don't entirely disagree with that.
dan friesen
Well, on one level, you are expressing your virtues.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You're standing up for things that fall within your principles.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, but are you?
Just posting something on Twitter is not really standing up for your...
dan friesen
Well, there's a lot of people who maybe do it a little bit shitty, certainly.
But there's a lot of people who just clunkily express their opinions, period.
It doesn't matter what it's about.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex has some thoughts about virtue signaling and he wants you to know that you're a piece of shit.
alex jones
I mean, you think about how wicked the left is because they've got all the deals with China.
jordan holmes
That's exactly...
alex jones
And it's okay because, again, they'll have a beard or different colored socks or, you know...
Virtue signal and talk about how they fund Black Lives Matter to go around cop killing or whatever.
And then they're like the most horrible, greedy people trying to steal land from Hawaiian tribes just because they want it or running suicide factories.
I mean, you cannot make it up how sickeningly horrible they are.
dan friesen
The thing about stealing...
jordan holmes
You can't.
Actually, wait.
You can.
dan friesen
He just did.
jordan holmes
He just did.
dan friesen
The thing about stealing...
jordan holmes
It's super easy to make it up.
dan friesen
The thing about stealing land from Hawaiians...
jordan holmes
Yeah, where did that come from?
dan friesen
That's about Mark Zuckerberg trying to build a house in Hawaii.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah, I'm probably against that.
But again, I'm against any billionaire allowed to go out and do anything.
dan friesen
Sure.
But as someone who grew up in Hawaii...
jordan holmes
They should be locked in small little boxes under the ground.
dan friesen
I hate to keep trying to get back to this point, but...
I grew up for a bit in Hawaii.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And as someone who celebrated King Kamehameha Day with the native population.
jordan holmes
Right.
Also known as Dragon Ball Z Day.
dan friesen
If you want to make the argument about stealing land from Hawaiians, there's a lot more you're gonna have to do.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine any American history that would involve that.
dan friesen
There's a whole lot you gotta unpack.
jordan holmes
Pretty sure that it's always been American.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Pretty sure that Native Americans, but not...
The native ones, the American Americans, grew up there.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
Landed on Plymouth Rock and then Oahu.
dan friesen
I didn't land on Oahu.
Oahu landed on me.
jordan holmes
Did Oahu land on you?
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess.
jordan holmes
It's really heavy.
There's a lot of volcanic activity.
You don't want to fuck around with Oahu.
dan friesen
It's a gorgeous place, but the native populations there have consistently been making claims about how it's bullshit.
It is.
That we stole all their land.
jordan holmes
They're right.
dan friesen
Totally.
So if you want to talk about Mark Zuckerberg coming in and making a house, great.
jordan holmes
Bad.
dan friesen
I'll listen to that.
Bad.
But if you don't care about the other parts of it, then you're just capitalizing on someone you don't like, and you're a total hypocrite.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine anybody that we talk about being a complete and utter giant hypocrite.
dan friesen
No, certainly not everyone we talk about.
jordan holmes
I can't think of any, perhaps...
A House Justice Committee leader named Chaffetz being a complete and utter fucking hypocrite.
dan friesen
Or a dentured Batman.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Lurking in the shadows.
dan friesen
Let's get through this.
alex jones
You read their own white papers.
I've got articles today about Zuckerberg.
Again, the guy that says his users are dumb effers.
How he's going to censor everybody and get your private data and use it.
It's just...
jordan holmes
He already has your private data.
alex jones
It's Legion of Doom.
Arrogant, crazy, power-mad maniacs.
But Trump just absolutely devastated.
Devastated.
Yesterday.
And they just don't know what to do.
The confidence.
jordan holmes
I agree.
alex jones
He's up there and he says, nobody's getting hurt.
America is just going to...
He makes it about coal miners' jobs and a way of life.
Sure, it's about making the people that work hard...
Being the superheroes, not just somebody that dribbles a basketball or, you know, sings music.
jordan holmes
Definitely not racist there.
alex jones
It's about people and an economy based on people and a world based for people, not the post-industrial technocracy where I have an inch-thick stack, probably 30 articles today or more, where they're all saying the end of humans is here, you will submit.
You will merge with machines.
It's all over.
We're already spying on everything you do.
We totally control you.
It's all over.
jordan holmes
We're going to censor you.
alex jones
Remember just a few years ago, I was crazy saying all this was going to happen, and now everything's happening exactly like I said, because, drumroll, I was reading their white papers.
jordan holmes
Which white papers was he reading?
dan friesen
I don't know.
He has a huge stack, though, of like 30 articles.
He's obsessed with numbers of articles.
jordan holmes
He has no idea how many.
He's really good at judging stacks.
dan friesen
Bro, bro, bro.
There's 500 total, and then there's 30 that are about transhumanism, I guess.
I'm guessing that's what he's trying to say.
Whatever the case is, both numbers are off.
Of course.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
dan friesen
So that also is about the extent to which he covers the press conference at this point.
He does end up getting to a little bit of it later, but at this point he's like, we had that press conference and it was on Thursday and I was really, really waiting for him to go off on it.
Like really waiting for him to be like, yeah!
You know, specific instances of, like, you told them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you got him.
dan friesen
He stuck it to the Congressional Black Caucus.
You know, like, all this stuff.
Like, I was expecting that to happen, and it really wasn't.
He didn't respond to much.
He was really boring on the subject.
It really disappointed me that he didn't get into a ton of that.
unidentified
How?
jordan holmes
Okay.
Let's get into...
Okay.
Do you think it's because there is, even for him...
Nothing really defensible about that.
dan friesen
Well, I think he realized that talking about so many of the things that came up in that press conference and so many of Trump's behaviors, it would kind of put him behind the eight ball.
I think that he realized that a lot of this is going to be too difficult for me to defend.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So at the end, our last clip that we're going to play today is when he finally gets to actually talking about the press conference.
Teasing.
You'll see how little he engages with the source material.
jordan holmes
What is there?
unidentified
You'll see.
dan friesen
You'll see.
jordan holmes
You know what's fascinating about that is that I was really looking forward to this because I wanted to see...
Because there's so many people who would definitely defend whatever nonsense that he said at that press conference.
They're already all in.
So they're going to believe whatever it is they want to believe.
If you have any sense of critical thought about you, you watch that.
Even if you voted for Trump and went...
What the fuck is happening right now?
That dude's crazy.
dan friesen
I can't imagine any of my people in the red state of Missouri, all my old peoples who might have voted for Trump, any of them watching that and not saying, boy howdy!
That boy is off his rocker.
jordan holmes
Yeah, right?
That was crazy.
That was legit crazy.
So I want to know how you could possibly defend it.
dan friesen
And that's the thing.
Alex can't.
jordan holmes
And you're exactly right there.
And that's why I was really hoping that he would have something.
dan friesen
That's what I was looking forward to.
jordan holmes
The conservative websites and shit that my dad reads where I kept going through them and they were all like, Trump really sticks it to him.
And they quote, Zero.
dan friesen
Right, right.
jordan holmes
Zero from what he said.
They just give you a rundown of like, he said the press was bad.
They didn't go through anything that he actually said.
dan friesen
Here is a possible argument that Alex might want to make.
jordan holmes
Please.
dan friesen
And that is that...
jordan holmes
Let's speculate wildly.
dan friesen
Look, Trump may appear to be crazy.
But it only appears crazy because he may or may not have superpowers.
jordan holmes
And that brings us...
dan friesen
That brings us to our next clip.
jordan holmes
Goddammit, your transition skills are incredible.
alex jones
The President of the United States is being filtered and blocked on Twitter with the comments and the feedback.
They don't want the American people being able to send a tweet and it pops up where he's in live time.
Donald Trump sits there.
Let me get by the big secret.
You know what?
I'm not going to give a secret.
I'm not because...
Well, the media already knows this.
So I might as well tell people.
What?
Just to tell you how wild this guy is and how real he is.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
He likes to talk to average people so much, he sits at the switchboard until two in the morning while he's reading things and randomly sits there and picks up the phone and talks to people.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
He's like an idiot savant workhorse magic toad.
jordan holmes
Is that a compliment?
dan friesen
The toad part at the end wasn't.
jordan holmes
Is there any part of that was a compliment?
dan friesen
What's great about that is, first of all...
jordan holmes
So he's an idiot savant, which harkens back to he has autism.
He's on the spectrum.
All right.
So that's...
I mean, I guess...
Nope.
I can't think of any...
Because I'm sure...
Okay.
All right.
We got that.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
Magic.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That's not great.
dan friesen
Toad?
jordan holmes
It's nice that he's magic.
dan friesen
What about Toad?
jordan holmes
Toad, the wet sprocket.
I think that's what he's referencing.
dan friesen
Or a very heroic character in Mario.
jordan holmes
Yes, absolutely.
Toad and the very gay series where the Toad and the rabbit or whatever.
dan friesen
I do not know that.
jordan holmes
That's not important.
It's definitely the incorrect reference.
dan friesen
So, also...
jordan holmes
Mr. Toad and...
dan friesen
Oh, Wind in the Willows?
jordan holmes
Wind in the Willows.
unidentified
There we are.
dan friesen
Mr. Toad gets drunk and goes to hell?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Crashes his car drunk and goes to hell?
jordan holmes
That is Trump.
That is Trump.
dan friesen
You're totally wrong if you think that book didn't traumatize me as a child.
Why is Mr. Toad in hell?
What is going on here?
This isn't for kids.
Anyway, we haven't even gotten to the superpower part yet.
jordan holmes
How can it be?
unidentified
He just went through all of the...
dan friesen
Trump sits there while he's reading drugs.
jordan holmes
Which is not good!
dan friesen
No, he should go to bed.
jordan holmes
He's 70. He should not be...
He just...
Okay, so he's sitting by the switchboard, which...
Why is there a switchboard?
Are we talking about a 1960 switchboard where there's like 16 women with all these little headphone jacks in there?
It's an operator.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
So he's at the switchboard, just talking to regular people.
So are people calling the White House and he's like...
dan friesen
At two in the morning.
jordan holmes
This one sounds good.
dan friesen
You up?
Hey, Donald, you up?
Like, also, it's clear that if a 70-year-old man is up till two in the morning, then wakes up and does his job, he's got to be on some sort of amphetamines.
Like, that can't...
Just, like, your body does not allow for that.
jordan holmes
His body does.
He's a magic toad.
dan friesen
Also, he's up till two reading InfoWars and Drudge and taking phone calls from weirdos.
jordan holmes
If there's anything I know about Spider-Man, it's that when you are scientifically engineered with an animal, it gives you superpowers.
And as we all know, one of the powers of a toad is the ability to stay up until two.
And wake up early in the morning.
dan friesen
I think it's more likely that his superpower is that he secretes hallucinogens.
And that's why everyone keeps trying to lick him.
jordan holmes
That explains his appearance on Jimmy Fallon.
That's for goddamn sure.
dan friesen
Also, do you think that it's possible that Spider-Man was that photographer who showed up at InfoWars?
jordan holmes
Oh my god!
So we got Batman.
We got Spider-Man.
dan friesen
I know Peter Parker.
jordan holmes
What is not involved here?
dan friesen
Peter Parker is based out of New York, but there's no evidence he doesn't freelance.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but if the new...
No, he's absolutely a freelancer for J. Jonah Jameson, and he's freelancing for the New York Times, and the New York Times sent him on this...
dan friesen
Oh, my God.
jordan holmes
...this freelance mission, but in the meantime...
He was turned into Spider-Gwen, which is a new thing.
dan friesen
There is a Spider-Girl.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And that's as logical as the story he fucking told us.
dan friesen
So now we have DC and Marvel in the mix.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And...
jordan holmes
Crossover event.
dan friesen
Fuck you, Mr. Mixelplix, or whatever.
jordan holmes
Mixelpixie stick.
dan friesen
Whatever.
We have a new hero to enter the pantheon.
Here is Donald Trump's superpower.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Let's get this break.
jordan holmes
Yeah, skip it.
unidentified
And I'm going to just stop right there.
alex jones
And he also sits there and knows phone numbers and basically can memorize a bunch of numbers.
He just sits there and sees numbers he knows on the switchboard and then picks it up.
jordan holmes
I don't like that.
alex jones
That is so cool.
And the New York Times people are like, oh, you know about that?
Well, don't tell people.
We won't be able to call.
The hell with you.
This is incredible.
dan friesen
What a lame superpower.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
dan friesen
First of all, I hate to say this because it sounds like I'm judging.
But let's not talk over the clips as much because I'm getting this weird feedback.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
I apologize.
jordan holmes
I'm trying.
I'm trying.
dan friesen
It's hard not to respond.
jordan holmes
I'm trying.
dan friesen
I know.
jordan holmes
I'm trying.
dan friesen
I'm sorry.
jordan holmes
He's saying some grade-A nonsense.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he sits in front of the board.
He sees the numbers come up.
jordan holmes
He memorizes numbers.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
He has an amazing superpower for memorizing numbers.
dan friesen
Yes.
He has an edidic memory or whatever.
jordan holmes
He knows phone numbers, which is amazing to...
dan friesen
It's really cool.
jordan holmes
Is it amazing to...
Who is impressed by somebody knowing phone numbers?
dan friesen
Alex.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He just said it.
It's so cool.
jordan holmes
That's fair.
That is fair.
dan friesen
But also, as I was listening to this, I texted you.
jordan holmes
Yes, I recall this.
dan friesen
I texted you like, I don't think Alex Jones knows what caller ID is.
Like, I really don't think he understands that modern phones have a name that comes up with a phone number.
jordan holmes
I didn't even connect that because, again, I'm living in the 60s.
He's in front of a switchboard.
dan friesen
Okay, that's right, with the actual plugs.
jordan holmes
He's in the switchboard pool.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
People are, like, using the first two numbers as letters.
jordan holmes
He's got audio jacks.
Yeah, yeah.
It's easy to remember phone numbers when people are calling the number 142.
This is way back whenever there were only eight numbers.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, but the New York Times is mad?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Why are they mad again?
dan friesen
Because they know that they can call him late at night and he'll answer, and if everyone else knows, it's going to clog up the line.
The media is going to be pissed because they can't call Trump late at night, which is not happening.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That is such insanity.
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
On all sides.
On all sides.
There's no way to get in there without going through a Kafkaesque nightmare of crazy.
dan friesen
Jordan, here's how I would describe it.
If it's true, it's crazy?
If it's not true, it's still crazy.
jordan holmes
If even a part of it is true, it's crazy.
dan friesen
If Trump is sitting in front of a phone at two in the morning, that's crazy.
jordan holmes
Any aspect of any of that, being even the slightest bit true, is terrifying.
dan friesen
I think the reality piece of this is possibly that he calls Trump late at night.
unidentified
I think that might be the only part of it that's real.
dan friesen
It's like, I call Trump late at night, you know?
He always knows it's me calling.
jordan holmes
How does he know?
dan friesen
In that press conference that Trump did, he also was complaining that the media never calls him.
So it's in direct refutation of what Alex is saying.
jordan holmes
He's a 14-year-old child.
dan friesen
It's the most insane fucking thing.
jordan holmes
So Alex Jones has an iPhone.
We've established that he's had his phone on set before.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Is it an iPhone?
It's a smartphone.
It's a smartphone, right?
Now, based on what he just told us, Does he know how to add contacts?
dan friesen
Well, I mean, based on when he got that call, it was from a number he didn't recognize.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
So, maybe not.
jordan holmes
So, he is amazed by this, by Trump being able to recognize names just before he answers.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because he doesn't know how to put a name in the contacts list.
dan friesen
It's possible.
I think that Trump doesn't, like, I don't think that Trump would give Alex his cell phone number.
unidentified
Oh, God.
dan friesen
I bet.
jordan holmes
That would be a wacky neighbor sitcom I would watch all the time.
If fucking Kramer was actually Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Oh, my God.
jordan holmes
Just calling Trump all the time.
dan friesen
He's like, I'm trying to president here.
jordan holmes
Nobody write this.
Nobody write this.
This is a knowledge fight intellectual property situation.
We got to write this.
dan friesen
No, you know what would be even better?
Make it like Home Improvement, where Alex Jones is Wilson.
Screaming from the other side of the fence.
jordan holmes
That would be perfect.
That would be perfect.
dan friesen
If it was just, instead of running a TV show about Home Improvement stuff, he's the president.
And instead of Wilson giving out good advice, he yells about the globalists.
There's a fence outside the White House.
jordan holmes
Wilson, I just had a real rough fight with my wife.
dan friesen
It's because of George Soros!
jordan holmes
The globalists are killing you with George Soros!
unidentified
Your wife was funded by George Soros.
You know what?
jordan holmes
That was just the advice I needed to move on and grow as a person.
dan friesen
Alright, I gotta get on air.
Don't steal that either.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's the SNL skit we're never going to write.
dan friesen
If only Mad TV was still around.
jordan holmes
Oh god, that would be...
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
We would already have a five-year deal with Mad TV.
dan friesen
This next clip, he gets back to the New York Times photographer narrative and says some more bullshit.
And then, I don't remember exactly what this is about, but I've labeled it as a really bad example of a slippery slope.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
That's why Trump now doesn't even care.
It's beyond confidence.
He doesn't care what they do, what they say.
He realizes they're a bunch of bullied slaves.
And he's just out there to show them they're bullied slaves and to show everybody else it's okay to stand up, it's okay to speak out, it's okay to be informed, it's okay to be who you are.
I said to this photographer, she said, well, I like jobs, but I just, you know, I can't.
You'd lose all your big liberal contracts if you worked with Alex Jones.
In a free country, you're not allowed to ever work with anybody who's not the big corporate liberal-approved Soviet BS, or you're out of a job.
Well, with that attitude, next you're sent to a gulag, or you're at a Foxconn slave factory in China.
dan friesen
There was the bad slippery slope.
jordan holmes
No, that makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
No, it doesn't.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, one-to-one.
dan friesen
No, absolutely not.
jordan holmes
Yeah, immediate, one-to-one.
dan friesen
But also, I mean, he's just saying another conversation that didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But anyway, this clip's not done.
jordan holmes
Also, he's showing us it's okay to be who you are.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So long as you are not Muslim, trans, Latin.
It's okay to be who you are.
If you are white, you can stay here and be who you are.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
If you are anything else...
Be who you are somewhere else.
That should be Trump's slogan from now on.
Be who you are somewhere else.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, it comes down to that sort of mentality that people who believe it don't think is racist, but is super racist.
That is like, Europe for the Europeans, Africa for the Africans.
Like, that sort of thing.
It is super racist, but everyone who believes it thinks, why should there not be more of me at my homeland?
Why should mixing?
jordan holmes
Why?
Because so many reasons.
So many reasons.
dan friesen
So this photographer didn't say the things...
I can pretty confidently say this.
She didn't say the things that he thinks she said.
He interpreted their interaction very wrongly.
jordan holmes
And she definitely would not want to work for InfoWars at all.
dan friesen
But if she did...
In Alex Jones' nightmare scenario where she's being bullied into not accepting this freelance work that she desperately needs.
jordan holmes
Which she doesn't.
dan friesen
That still doesn't lead to gulags in a year.
It doesn't lead to gulags ever.
Alright, whatever.
jordan holmes
I've seen a lot of freelance journalists wind up in gulags.
dan friesen
Speaking of gulags, Vladimir Putin is a Solzhenitsyn fan.
alex jones
See how that works?
There's only a few more steps down now, and they're saying, we want to start arresting the alt-right.
We want to kill Donald Trump.
We want to blow up the White House.
We want to do all this.
And they have CIA guys.
I told you, as soon as you hear that on the TV going, he's a domestic enemy.
dan friesen
He was talking about Evan McMullin went on MSNBC.
jordan holmes
Isn't he a senator from Utah?
dan friesen
Yeah, but he also was ex-CIA or whatever.
He used to work in intelligence stuff.
jordan holmes
Okay, well that's definitely not good.
All of the things that he is do not make me happy.
dan friesen
Not great, but he was on TV and he implied that were a president to be compromised or working with enemy countries, they would be then a domestic enemy of our country.
jordan holmes
Like he is.
dan friesen
The way that Evan McMullin said it wasn't great, but it's way more nuanced than what Alex was talking about.
jordan holmes
Do you mean the way he said it?
The way he said truth wasn't great.
He said all the things that are true.
dan friesen
But then he's talking about people wanting to blow up the White House.
He's talking specifically about Madonna.
jordan holmes
No, the White House is really nice.
dan friesen
You don't need to blow it up.
He's talking about Madonna's speech where she said, I sometimes think about blowing up the White House, but I don't want to do that.
He conveniently cuts off the last part of that clip.
jordan holmes
Even before Trump was elected.
I mean, sometimes I would think about blowing up the White House just because that sounds like a badass move, right?
dan friesen
I think of weird stuff.
You know who else thinks about blowing up the White House?
Roland Emmerich.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
I think also, I think, I'm not entirely sure.
jordan holmes
Did you find out whether or not Olympus has fallen?
dan friesen
I'm not entirely sure about this, but I think the White House might get blown up in that American movie that Alex Jones is in.
jordan holmes
Do you know where else it got blown up?
dan friesen
A thousand movies.
jordan holmes
Independence Day.
dan friesen
That's Roland Emmerich.
That's what I'm talking about.
jordan holmes
How often does he blow up the White House?
dan friesen
So often.
jordan holmes
So often?
dan friesen
He's an enemy of the state.
He's an enemy of the republic, as Alex Jones likes to say.
Anyway, let's finish this up.
jordan holmes
An enemy of the republic.
dan friesen
So he's basically just like Evan McMullin being on CNN is the intelligence community talking about how Trump is an enemy.
Blowing up the White House is about Madonna.
The idea...
That people want to kill Trump, I'm guessing is based on tweets he's seen or something like that.
jordan holmes
And also maybe some shit that I've said.
unidentified
Yeah, you.
dan friesen
Which I think that you're speaking a little...
jordan holmes
I am not advocating nor insinuating that I will do anything.
dan friesen
No, and you're speaking a little bit glibly.
jordan holmes
Very much so.
I'm trying to defend you here.
This is fully protected under parody laws.
dan friesen
This is the Boone's Farm talking.
jordan holmes
Well, they've outlawed dust on Boons Park.
alex jones
I kind of respected if any of these guys had any fire in their eyes or even looked like a man, but they can't get men to act like that.
They cannot get...
That's why they hate real men.
They cannot get the real men to act like backstabbing pieces of crap jerks.
And that's their ancient problem, is they can't get the warrior class to be absolute filth.
dan friesen
He goes on to explain that that's why they're creating robots.
Yep.
This is the first instance that we're playing so far of what I would call direct toxic masculinity.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
It always goes back to men.
Men.
Big dicks.
We all have big dicks.
Real men don't do that.
Beta cucks.
Real men.
Warriors.
dan friesen
It gets so much worse as this goes along.
There's a couple things that he said that actually left my jaw open.
And I've been listening to him every day for two months.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
dan friesen
There was a couple things that he ends up saying later.
If you want to get excited for a later part of this episode, he says some stuff that we're really going to have to unpack real hard about the dangers of male identity.
jordan holmes
There are dangers of male identity?
I can't think of any.
dan friesen
Except that last clip and a bunch of others.
jordan holmes
And all the others.
Anytime he talks about what a real man is...
It is so glaringly obvious he is not talking about himself.
dan friesen
A real man is that which fits the mold that he has created, and anybody who disagrees with him or Trump is a chicken-necked weirdo, or he calls them effeminate.
Sometimes he's like, eh, they're effeminate, but I wouldn't say that.
That's an insult to women.
It's insane that he doesn't understand the things he's implying with his own words.
jordan holmes
I don't think he understands any of the words he says.
dan friesen
No.
But, I mean, he's got to be bop and scat through four hours.
Three hours.
He never hosts the fourth hour.
jordan holmes
I just hate whenever there's that male, like, maleness.
We're men, and that means that we can take shit.
Like, fuck you.
dan friesen
Yeah, the man show type of attitude.
So this next clip actually might explain some of the ideas that he has about his masculinity.
It's about how maybe he was bullied.
unidentified
Oh, no!
dan friesen
And he has been the victim of bullying.
jordan holmes
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
But unfortunately, that transitions into him not understanding that he is wildly anti-Semitic.
jordan holmes
Oh.
alex jones
But the left wing is the king operating system of really reducing language communication, family, you name it.
And they are really, as everybody sees, stepping up the bullying, beating up women everywhere, targeting them on purpose.
Just saying, you don't have free speech, you can't go to events, you can't hear somebody speak.
I mean, they're just monsters.
And we have to call this and we have to call them out on that and I just remember always online getting bullied, bullied, bullied, bullied...
unidentified
Bullied, bullied, bullied, And I realized that was a lot of...
alex jones
Arabist, Saudi Arabian, globalist, but also leftist dialectic.
And that the whole thing was fake.
And that while Hollywood was pushing an Israel-first agenda, it was also pushing the whole Islamic agenda.
jordan holmes
I don't understand.
dan friesen
Let me try and help you parse this.
jordan holmes
That was...
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So he conflated...
unidentified
Oh...
dan friesen
Didn't call from Nate Burroughs.
jordan holmes
He conflated every possible enemy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Arabists.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Globalists.
Leftists.
jordan holmes
Who told him he was working for...
dan friesen
Would you like me to explain what he's talking about?
jordan holmes
I want to know...
How that happened.
dan friesen
So Alex Jones is, I think we can say, he's largely responsible for the interest in conspiracy in the world.
Or not in the world, but at least in America and the people online.
jordan holmes
Amongst a certain subset.
dan friesen
Because he's been going for so long and in such a public way, a lot of people get their introduction to conspiracy through Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he has done wonders for creating and building the world of people who distrust the government and think everything is a false flag.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Now, unfortunately, the byproduct of that, it's that whole narrative.
It's a whole story that you create something you can no longer control.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The entire conspiracy world, not all of it, but a lot of it, has turned against Alex because they think he doesn't criticize Israel enough.
So a lot of people think that he is a shill for Israel.
There's a lot of conspiracy theorists who think it's a conspiracy that he's a conspiracy theorist.
Because...
jordan holmes
We are down.
We're into a mirror dimension now.
dan friesen
So what he's responding to here when he's saying he's being bullied, he's not being bullied by globalists or by Arabists or anything like that.
He's being bullied by people that he's had a hand in creating that have gone too far down the conspiracy aisle.
jordan holmes
Too far?
How can you go that far?
dan friesen
They're like, Alex Jones, yeah, I mean, he's a pussy.
He doesn't believe...
He's not real.
He's not crazy enough!
That sort of thing.
unidentified
So...
dan friesen
That's what he's getting at.
jordan holmes
That is such a fascinating, like, fork in the road if you're an Alex Jones fan, where it's like, okay, either I disagree with Alex Jones because he's too insane, or he's not insane enough.
Like, everybody, every conspiracy theorist has to reach that fork in the road.
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
Choose.
jordan holmes
Like, that's your ultimate, like, that's your introduction to manhood right there.
dan friesen
And I actually think that the road less traveled is the one that sticks with him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I think that most people who go that far down the road get to the fork and they're like, well, you know what?
This weed isn't doing it for me anymore.
I gotta switch to coke.
Or whatever.
They gotta go for something harder.
And that harder thing is flipping on what you believed previously that Alex Jones told the truth.
It's like, no, he's a liar because he won't call out Israel.
jordan holmes
Okay, but how do they want him to call out Israel?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Do they want him to...
dan friesen
I don't know specifics.
jordan holmes
Because Israel is...
Like, I'm a...
Like, they're...
Destroying the two-state solution, and they're not creating a democracy.
They're basically creating an apartheid situation.
So you should call out Israel.
I get the feeling, though.
Just instinct.
That says they're not on the side of peaceful relations.
dan friesen
They fucking think Mossad did 9-11.
They think that the Jews are basically responsible for everything that's ever happened.
And that's the other thing that we...
The fact that he's complaining about being bullied by these people who think that he doesn't call out Israel is really unfortunate because everything that he believes in in terms of the globalists is poorly packaged anti-Semitism.
It really all goes back to the fake document, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion.
We really need to do an entire episode on that because I've just done a ton of research.
I have in the past also, but I just did a nice refresher course.
On exactly how it was a forged document.
And it's fucking insane how clear it is.
jordan holmes
He's about to reference the five Jew bankers from C-Lab 2021.
dan friesen
Exactly.
It's that kind of a thing.
Like, the idea that there's this tribunal of people who are trying to hurt the world from behind the scenes is all taken directly from the protocols of the Elders of Zion.
But because you know that if you bring that book up and act like it's real because it has been so fucking discredited...
jordan holmes
Not that that matters.
dan friesen
The only thing that people, right-thinking people, will respond to that is, oh, who hate Jews?
Oh, okay.
Let's not listen to you anymore.
jordan holmes
He hates Jews.
dan friesen
Yes, but he's repackaged it in a way that it's acceptable to talk about by calling them globalists.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
In the same way that David Icke does it with lizards.
jordan holmes
Or in the same way that George Soros is a Nazi sympathizer.
dan friesen
Right, but that's just a straight-up lie.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
That's not even...
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, so is the Elders of Zion.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
I mean, it's all a straight-up lie.
dan friesen
But he dares say that George Soros is a Nazi collaborator because he has enough...
stand on there that he thinks he's not going to fall through.
But if he really was to be like, now I need to tell you about this book that really informs pretty much all of my beliefs about the natures of communism and all this stuff, then he would be, he'd be Like, in the middle of a lake with no paddle.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
No one would get on board with him.
jordan holmes
I wouldn't say no one.
dan friesen
Well, Stormfront would.
jordan holmes
I would say the people that think he's anti-Israel would definitely be on board with him.
dan friesen
They'd be like, oh, finally.
jordan holmes
So is he anti-Israel or pro-Israel?
dan friesen
I don't know if I have enough information to say.
He doesn't talk about it a ton.
jordan holmes
He likes the APAC, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, but the most that he generally talks about is to say that he's fair.
He doesn't really deal with too much, but he always talks about how, like, if Israel does something bad, I'll call him out.
If Palestinians do something bad, I'll call him out.
But then there's no substance to it.
There isn't actual evidence, in my experience, that he does either of those things.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But he does call out the Arabists.
jordan holmes
What?
I don't know.
The Arabists?
That's probably an offensive word.
Isn't that a thing in ballet?
The Arabists?
That was a beautiful Arabist she just pulled off right there.
dan friesen
I remember back when I was a kid, I used to watch a lot of BET, like 106 and Park and shit.
And one of the things I'd always see is commercials for Arabesque movie night.
And I always thought that was a really cool word.
jordan holmes
Arabesque.
It's a good word.
dan friesen
You should try it out.
Anyway, we'll get back to this clip.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
And it was all just a clash of civilizations program.
And that, you know, if Israel did anything, it was the worst thing on earth.
But then if the Muslims say they want to blow up America and kill everybody, a large contingent of them, that's all cute and funny and nice, you know, when they dump acid on women's faces or cut their genitals off by the hundreds of thousands a year or, you know, kill hundreds of thousands of Christians.
Oh, they just don't count.
But I kind of halfway got bullied in political correctness that, well, I'm sure the truth's in between.
You know, Israel does some bad stuff, but the Muslims do some bad stuff.
And I never really tried to prove myself to one side or the other.
It's not what I do with virtue signaling, but it was just always, you know, you get a bunch of emails, it's like, you're going to expose the Vatican, or I'm going to expose you as one of their agents.
And I'm just like, I'm not even Catholic, but I don't want to infight with people.
And then, you know, you work for the Catholics, you work for this or that.
But all I want is to have justice and freedom, and I'm totally open.
I mean, now I can talk to pretty much anybody I want to, and I do talk to you name it.
I mean, they wanted to send foreign intelligence agencies, not the Russians, here to talk to me.
jordan holmes
But he talked to the Russians!
dan friesen
Alexander Dugan was on his show.
jordan holmes
He talked to the Russians!
dan friesen
But also, I love that, like, snap clarification.
jordan holmes
Yeah, not the Russians.
dan friesen
Talk to anybody I want, not the Russians.
All right.
I'm not sure if it's in this clip, but he's like, I talked to MI5, MI6.
I'm like, I'm not sure if those are both things.
jordan holmes
No, I don't think he...
dan friesen
MI6 is a real thing.
I think MI5 is for movies.
jordan holmes
I think he started with MI3.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He worked his way up to MI6.
dan friesen
There's MI6, MIB.
I talked to all of them.
jordan holmes
That's where the aliens came from, the 12th dimension.
Didn't you see that movie?
Will Smith was great.
dan friesen
So he talks more about...
jordan holmes
And then he does a Will Smith impression, which is just...
unidentified
And then he went and brought an alien in.
We have 7 billion people on the planet.
How...
jordan holmes
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
I know you're taking notes there.
jordan holmes
Let's go with Muslims, a large contingent.
How many Muslims are there on this planet?
dan friesen
A whole bunch.
jordan holmes
Billions.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
How many do you need to have a large contingent of Muslims?
dan friesen
Quite a few.
jordan holmes
You would have to, like, statistically speaking, we would need, what, 25% would you call a large contingent?
dan friesen
Well, that's a majority, according to John Rappaport.
jordan holmes
Alright, that would be a large contingent.
So let's, relatively speaking, call it a small contingent.
But, if you have a very small reference, it's a large contingent.
Fine.
Hundreds of thousands of Christians, though.
If you're killing hundreds of thousands of Christians, how long before you're out of Christians?
dan friesen
I mean...
unidentified
It seems like you would run out...
jordan holmes
Fairly quickly.
There are a lot of Christians.
Well, there's slightly more Christians there than there are Muslims, which is even more terrifying.
dan friesen
Well, not if you're killing off 100,000 a year or whatever.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
dan friesen
Or is it 100,000 ever?
The statistics are very murky in terms of what he's talking about.
jordan holmes
I do not know what he's talking about at all.
dan friesen
You know what?
I've learned to tune out stuff like that.
jordan holmes
I just...
dan friesen
I'm getting this new skill.
jordan holmes
You just let that shit go?
dan friesen
I'm getting this new skill, which I'm not actually happy about with Alex, that is like, whenever he says stuff like that, it's like water rolling off a duck's back.
For me, I'm just like, I can't engage.
jordan holmes
Hundreds of thousands of Christians means like ten guys.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
And I mean, he did say that...
dan friesen
You shouldn't kill people.
Let's be clear about that.
jordan holmes
And you shouldn't circumcise women.
I agree.
dan friesen
Absolutely not.
Or dump acid on them.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
Terrible.
jordan holmes
It's a bad idea to dump acid on women.
dan friesen
Yep.
We're liberals and we agree with that.
jordan holmes
We are the one podcast who will take the stance that it's bad to dump acid on women.
dan friesen
You hear that world?
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's time for us to draw a line in the sand.
But not with acid.
dan friesen
You know what's great?
I think every podcast would agree with that.
They just never cover it.
jordan holmes
You know what?
They just don't have the courage.
unidentified
You know why?
dan friesen
Because they're not real men.
Anyway, this clip isn't done, but he ends up talking about more Secret Service agencies that he talks to.
And then makes a horrible false equivalency about the Holocaust.
alex jones
Sniff around, decided they wanted to try something, and I just said, come talk to me.
And most people out there go watch movies about all this stuff.
That's not really how most of it works.
jordan holmes
It is.
alex jones
It's just that they've known for a long time we're having a big effect.
Now we're in the center of the zeitgeist.
And what I'm getting at is everybody should just be able to talk to everybody.
It's like that New York Times photographer.
She doesn't work for them, a freelance.
Scared to death when I said, hey.
Let me see your portfolio.
I want to do some work for us.
I can't do that.
Yeah, you get blackballed, huh?
That's not freedom.
I only brought it up so I could talk to her about it.
Because she's a human being.
So I spent a few minutes trying to reach through to her and show her how that's a cult.
That's the same thing.
If I had to cry a suicide bombing in Israel, it's like, you Zionist scum.
That's the highest thing to say on the internet to somebody because you're a big man.
You're a good person.
You're moral.
I'm not.
And so you just say I'm, you know, a bad person or whatever.
dan friesen
I apologize.
I said that there was going to be a false equivalence about the Holocaust.
I must not have had that in the clip.
At some point in the show, he talks about how, like, the Holocaust was against the Jews, and now it's against the whites.
jordan holmes
Great.
dan friesen
So, again, it goes back to this point.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
If only.
If only.
God, what a wonderful world.
dan friesen
But see, now you're playing into his hands.
jordan holmes
I am.
dan friesen
Because you're a self-hating cuck white man.
jordan holmes
I mean, yeah.
You're not wrong.
dan friesen
But you are definitive evidence that there is a programming that's going on trying to turn white people against themselves.
jordan holmes
It's called history.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's called all of the history.
dan friesen
But let's parse that down.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
When you talk about that, it's very complex and abstract, which is why Alex doesn't understand it.
You and I are both white men.
jordan holmes
Yes.
unidentified
Unfortunately.
dan friesen
We didn't do the horrible things from history.
jordan holmes
Right.
But every day we benefit from them.
dan friesen
Yes.
And that is the piece of it that makes talking about white sin or white...
Injustice in the past, things that white people have done, important.
Now, we don't hate each other because you are white and I am white.
It's not an individual thing.
It is about a shared history of benefiting from oppression.
jordan holmes
When I was in London, I did see the crown jewels.
And while I was there...
dan friesen
You're talking about the prince's balls?
jordan holmes
Oh, they were good.
They were good stuff.
But the red-haired one.
Those little ginger balls.
No, it was really fascinating because they did have them in a way that you would go through.
You couldn't take pictures.
There were these weird little things.
And I just kept looking at them going like, shouldn't you guys call this the shit you stole?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because that's not...
You didn't mine those in Britain.
dan friesen
Let's also just take a step back.
All the land.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fuck the jewels.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is my new rap act.
jordan holmes
Fuck the Jewels.
Run the Jewels is going to be so pissed.
dan friesen
They're going to be...
jordan holmes
Killer Mike is bummed out.
dan friesen
They're going to be performing in my neighborhood soon.
jordan holmes
They were there yesterday.
dan friesen
Ah, shit.
I just saw the sign.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Or no, it was the 17th.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is the day that this episode is from.
jordan holmes
That's true.
Run them Jewels fast.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I did not go to the concert because I don't like big crowds.
Anyway, we...
jordan holmes
Because you're a beta white male cock!
dan friesen
I apologize that that clip didn't include the thing that I said it did.
I will try and track that down as evidence because I don't like saying that he said things without evidence, without proof.
jordan holmes
Yes, we hold ourselves to a slightly higher standard.
dan friesen
But at the same time, it's very not unrealistic for you to believe that Alex Jones has ideas about white genocide.
jordan holmes
Zionist scum.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's saying that that's what people call him online because he works for Islam.
jordan holmes
Because he's for Israel.
unidentified
Yeah.
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
I don't know exactly what this next clip is, so let's get surprised together.
unidentified
Coming to you from the former United States of America.
What?
In the heart of Texas, it's Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I just want it to be this song.
I just want it to be this song.
If the entire clip was just coming to you from the former United States of America.
unidentified
He's already saying it's not the United States.
dan friesen
That's crazy.
That seems like...
jordan holmes
That's some Zionist scum shit right there.
dan friesen
That seems like sedition.
But then, isn't that you're walking on the fighting side of me?
Isn't that Merle Haggard or whatever?
jordan holmes
Yeah, it is.
dan friesen
He just...
He talks...
Oh, man.
That's one of his new catchphrases.
You know when you want to go against the Constitution?
Now you're on the fighting side of me.
Now you're walking on the fighting side.
jordan holmes
But all of the stuff he says is against the Constitution.
Does anybody read that shit?
dan friesen
I believe that everybody should be able to do exactly what they want, but once you disagree with me, now you're walking on the fighting side.
jordan holmes
It bums me out on any time...
So the biggest bummer that I have with our system is that it's a team sport.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That really bums me out, because any time it's like, oh, the Constitution says this, I mean, it says a lot of crazy shit.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It's not a good or bad document.
It's fucking weird half the time.
dan friesen
That's why a lot of amendments have had to be made.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But you can't change it.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
You can't change the fucking concept.
unidentified
God, I hate it.
jordan holmes
You can amend it.
dan friesen
Anyway, that's irrelevant.
Let's get to it.
I still don't know exactly what this clip is, but I did love that bumper.
jordan holmes
Oh, that didn't make it clear for you?
It didn't.
unidentified
No, okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
I do know that we are no longer the United States.
alex jones
All right, that's good.
Getting a little bit of Merle Haggard therapy here.
Let me tell you what's coming up.
We've got some very important guests coming up, and then I'm going to get into Priebus on the hook for anti-Trump sabotage, Infowars.com, the prolific Washington Bureau chief as we form that.
I'm about to get office space.
I'm about to sign contracts on that.
I mean, we're not playing around here.
That's going on.
Polar bear numbers still explode.
Most ever recorded, just running around everywhere.
Media says they're all dead.
Big Arbindoxes.
jordan holmes
What is this dismissive bullshit?
alex jones
We've got the big one, Muslim sympathizers at CIA behind Trump leaks.
We're going to talk about that in a moment with our guest.
Talk about John O. Brennan.
We're going to get into, after our guest leaves us, Globless and Panic after Trump's amazing...
He did two press conferences yesterday with the big one that was an hour and 18 minutes long.
We're going to get into that.
jordan holmes
No, we're not.
dan friesen
I don't know why I had that clip in there.
He doesn't get to any of that stuff, but he does have David Horowitz on as a guest.
jordan holmes
If you're a human being...
At this point, you are a Muslim sympathizer.
Because, I don't know if you know this or not, Muslims are also human beings.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There's a lot of them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And there's a lot to sympathize with right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a lot of really bad stuff being done inwardly, outwardly, all of it.
There's problems in the community.
You know what I just realized?
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
This next clip is where he talks about the Holocaust.
unidentified
Ooh!
dan friesen
I apologize that I...
jordan holmes
Ladies and gentlemen, For the second time, we bring you the Holocaust clip.
dan friesen
But, before we get to that, within this clip, Alex wants to tell you a little bit about what he was like as a kid.
Which I know is something you've been fascinated to hear about.
jordan holmes
I swear to God, none of this can be true.
dan friesen
Probably not.
unidentified
It's been said billions of times.
Billions.
alex jones
No doubt.
jordan holmes
And now we got the hard...
alex jones
Those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
And so I didn't know that when I got a taste, a hankering, for history books when I was about six years old and I read 200, 300 on World War II alone.
jordan holmes
When he was six?
alex jones
Thousands of books.
Thousands.
That I was like doing university-level studies by the time I was 14. Stop bragging about it.
jordan holmes
Yes, you are.
alex jones
It's just that now I have this big store of knowledge.
Reading scholar-level, you know, 800-page books.
jordan holmes
Fuck you.
alex jones
That got into my new show that, you know, even academics were just acting like they were reading.
jordan holmes
Wow.
alex jones
And that's why now I understand the roots of the different control systems when I see them.
And I know what's being built.
And I can say what's being built before they even come out later and admit they're building it.
dan friesen
So he didn't read thousands of scholarly books when he was six, but I think that there's an interesting thing that we can, you know, you can use exegesis, and you can take his words and see what's actually being said there.
It's possible that he started to understand history when he was six to eight to ten years old.
jordan holmes
You're giving him a lot of credit.
dan friesen
Well, no.
I'm saying he had a six-year-old's understanding of history.
jordan holmes
Ha!
Okay.
All right.
Now I'm back on board.
Now I'm back on board.
dan friesen
That's what I'm saying.
jordan holmes
Now we're back into it.
dan friesen
It's possible.
jordan holmes
Now we're fighting on the same team.
dan friesen
We're not on the fighting side of me?
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
So he had this understanding of a youth, of a baby, that was able to read, I suppose.
And he reads these books and doesn't understand what he's reading, but comes up with a fantasy narrative that a child might.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And because he's so stubborn and...
I don't know.
I had a paranoid weirdo dad.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It never got corrected.
jordan holmes
You are creating a general unified world theory of Alex Jones right now.
Well, I mean, that's kind of- You're figuring it all out.
You are fucking full-on Zodiac killering this right now.
dan friesen
That's kind of what I have to do.
jordan holmes
You are trying so hard to get into his headspace and work backwards.
dan friesen
It's the only way for this not to, first of all, be horrifying.
And not be boring.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So I think that's just...
jordan holmes
He just fabricated that whole cloth.
He has not read...
He did not read...
Also, the fucking balls on him to say that academics...
The academics don't even understand this.
And all he did is read 500 fucking...
The headlines.
dan friesen
The books that they pretend to read, he read when he was six.
jordan holmes
Pretend to read, he read when he's having just, you know, like, university-level conversations on this that other people wouldn't have.
dan friesen
When I was ten, I read the Bible cover to cover.
And since then, I've read other, you know, the Bible.
jordan holmes
You've read, like, two books.
dan friesen
But I have...
I recognize that when I was ten and I read the Bible, I didn't really understand it in a way that I did when I was taking...
Biblical classes in college.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
When I was an older person, I had a more robust worldview.
I was able to read more into abstract language.
I was more able to understand metaphor.
I was more understanding of context and things like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
No matter who you are, if you're six, you're not...
Like, what is that even?
Second grade?
jordan holmes
First grade.
dan friesen
First or second grade?
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You're not reading scholarly books well in second grade.
You might hold them.
jordan holmes
Do you know what I was reading?
Do you know what I was reading?
unidentified
Hop on Pop?
jordan holmes
No, Redwall.
dan friesen
Okay, yeah, great.
jordan holmes
They were mice.
They fought wars.
It was good shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, you and most of my friends.
jordan holmes
Martin the Warrior.
Martin the Warrior?
Great.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Did good stuff.
dan friesen
I would also bet everything I own.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Which isn't much.
I have that exercise bike over there.
jordan holmes
We have very little at stake in this bet right here.
dan friesen
I have a little bit of Boone's Farm.
jordan holmes
Not anymore.
dan friesen
I would bet anything that you have read more books than Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I would bet anything that I've read more books than Alex Jones has in the past week in his entire life.
Probably.
Thousands of books.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Thousands of books.
dan friesen
But anyway, I do like the idea that you start to take his words.
And his own sort of telling of his own history, and you start to get a better picture of exactly why he is the kind of wrong that he is.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I...
It's one of those things where you can learn a lot more about the Grecian people, oftentimes by the myths, as opposed to the written histories.
dan friesen
What a civilization or a culture holds dear speaks volumes about them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Or the stories they tell.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, there were these Peloponnesian Wars, right?
But then you look at it within the context of their gods and all of that stuff, and you start to see the motivations behind why they would believe what they are doing is correct.
Why they would believe it's right.
That whole concept.
So him mythologizing his own youth as being a...
Preternaturally gifted six-year-old.
dan friesen
Much like Trump can remember phone numbers.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
He was a kid genius.
jordan holmes
At six, policy wonk.
dan friesen
Policy wonk.
jordan holmes
At six.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
He was reading white papers at six.
jordan holmes
White papers.
They were putting it out there.
dan friesen
But I want to be clear.
When I say these things and I try and create this picture of him, I'm not doing it to justify him.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I'm not saying that like, oh, now we should feel bad for him.
I'm saying...
It's interesting and important to look at why a propagandist behaves the way they do.
jordan holmes
You're like an anthropologist.
dan friesen
Somewhat.
jordan holmes
We're studying...
We're Egyptologists right now.
We're like, why are the pharaohs so fucking weird, man?
dan friesen
Well, here's the thing.
jordan holmes
Don't get buried with your cat.
Cats aren't doing that shit.
What's going on here?
dan friesen
Don't talk shit on Selene.
What I'm doing here...
jordan holmes
Talk shit, get hit.
dan friesen
What I'm doing here...
Is I'm gearing up for when the collapse happens.
There's a terrible civil war.
And then on the other end of it, we try and figure out what happened.
jordan holmes
So we're giving us like three or four weeks until this?
dan friesen
I will be on future MSNBC as a Alex Jones specialist.
I will be...
I've just tried to become an Alex Jones expert witness.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you would be the first witness, I would call, in the trial of Alex Jones.
In his Nuremberg trial, you're definitely on the list.
dan friesen
Speaking of Nuremberg trials, we're about to get to that part about the Holocaust.
jordan holmes
That's right!
alex jones
And I'm not bragging.
It's just that those that don't know history are doomed to repeat it.
I only wish that I had time.
It's been years since I read a history book.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
alex jones
It's been years since I read a science fiction book, which is just the dreams of humans.
It's been years since I even sat down and read magazines about entertainers or watched a football game, and it's because I have to constantly watch what the enemy's doing.
dan friesen
He has to constantly watch what the enemy's doing.
jordan holmes
Why does that conflate each other?
dan friesen
But he has no time.
But in recent episodes, he's talked very vividly and at length about how football is just a recreation of war.
jordan holmes
No, I know.
dan friesen
Meant to sap men's testosterone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
I know that.
I know that's his...
He watches a lot of football.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
He totally watches a lot of football.
dan friesen
I mean, he live-streamed the Super Bowl on his show.
jordan holmes
Yeah, how else does he...
Yeah, he watches football.
He's from fucking Texas.
He watches all the football.
dan friesen
He claimed he was going to boycott the Super Bowl and then live-streamed it on his Sunday show.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
While he talked shit about George H.W. Bush for throwing a coin poorly.
jordan holmes
I'm all for that.
dan friesen
Fine.
jordan holmes
I'm in.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I'm on board.
Anyway, let's get to this.
That's the least negative thing Alex Jones has ever done.
dan friesen
I don't disagree.
alex jones
There's so many interesting things I want to tell you about.
So many fun things.
But I just can't do it because we have to protect all those good things by exposing these people.
We're not a negative broadcast.
We're a winning positive broadcast.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
But we have to admit how bad the globalists are if we're going to save this civilization and this society.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I mean, take the culture and the left of Israel hating.
Israel does bad things.
Israel has corruption.
It's people just like us.
But the religion of saying one group of people is fundamentally evil, Jews, is now on to white people are fundamentally evil.
Well, I thought the Nazis were saying people that weren't Aryan or Nordic or Germanic, everybody was evil.
It's just more tribalist crap.
And they sell the idea that tribalism has only been done by Europeans, which is just utterly ridiculous.
jordan holmes
How can he be so right and wrong as hard as you can be right there?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
How can you be that perfectly correct?
dan friesen
Well, break it down.
jordan holmes
Absolutely correct.
dan friesen
Break it down what you mean.
jordan holmes
Absolutely correct.
Tribalism.
unidentified
Stupid.
jordan holmes
One religion is bad.
All of this stuff.
All of it.
He's correct.
dan friesen
Except.
jordan holmes
Except he hates Muslims.
dan friesen
Yeah, and he has this narrative that...
The culture is saying that all white people are inherently evil, and no one is saying that.
jordan holmes
No one is saying that.
There's just too many of us.
dan friesen
But it's also...
jordan holmes
I mean, somebody should be saying it, but there's too many of us to say it to our faces.
dan friesen
But like we've talked about so many times...
jordan holmes
Like, maybe we are?
Has anybody ever considered that?
dan friesen
Yeah, the 5% Nation.
They believe that white people were created by an evil scientist named Yacoub.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
In a lab.
jordan holmes
At this point, that's as reasonable as everybody voting Trump for president.
All of it is reasonable.
Nothing is discounted in my world right now.
dan friesen
The idea, too, that everyone thinks that white people are inherently evil is his inability to understand what these conversations about privilege actually mean.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He has no grasp on it, and he takes it so personally.
That it's like, I didn't enslave anybody.
jordan holmes
He didn't.
dan friesen
He talked about how his family fought on the side of the South during the Civil War.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, but yeah.
But who wouldn't?
dan friesen
I don't think that makes him inherently bad because of that either.
But his inability to understand and his incessant need to take that shit personally makes him think that everybody is saying that white people are inherently evil and therefore are...
The victims of an impending genocide that's being made right now.
jordan holmes
It is so hard to listen to any of this in the context of them spending so much time saying that everybody else is playing the victim.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
While in the same sentence he says a white genocide is coming because everybody hates white people.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
And I hate how Muslims play the victim.
Yep.
dan friesen
And Black Lives Matter are cop killers.
jordan holmes
How do we fight against that?
What rhetorical trick is there available to fight against somebody who just denies reality that hard?
dan friesen
There's none.
It's impossible.
unidentified
Right?
dan friesen
All we can do is kind of try and laugh.
jordan holmes
You know what we have to do?
Commit white genocide.
dan friesen
Starting in Occupy Tech.
jordan holmes
Starting in Occupy Tech.
dan friesen
So in order for him to not deal with the press conference.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Which he has been doing so well.
dan friesen
He actually ends up talking about another press conference that Trump also did that day.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
alex jones
I want to get to a bunch of clips.
Trump is at the Boeing factory right now.
We probably put this up on screen.
jordan holmes
I bet he gets all the clips.
alex jones
And we'll play excerpts of that a little bit the next hour.
He's talking about the economy and building things and getting Boeing to move its jobs back from China.
And it's happening.
He looks so presidential there.
I don't think I've ever seen him look more presidential.
I mean, he just is stepping into it.
And again, it's spiritual evolution.
This is a big deal.
See, this country was taken to the very edge of death and demoralization.
A lot of people are dead before they're physically dead.
We just shuffle around, programmed, unhappy, not having any vision, not having any connection to the spiritual or the universe.
And that is now coming back into the world.
Self-respect.
Belief.
He's there promoting an American plane rolling out and saying, Boeing, you come back here.
So their stock will go up.
Instead of it going down when they were going to move to China.
Nothing against China, but it's time for America to have something.
And China, when you do better trade deals, when you actually decide to pay your people something, instead of being greedy, then you'll build a civilization that'll actually buy our products, and then we can go to the stars together.
But we're not going to be run over by a bunch of Zuckerbergs and Schmitz in an alliance with China in some pipe dream.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
That whole system's getting rolled up right now.
We're teaching you how the cow ate the cabbage.
jordan holmes
I want to listen to that clip 30 more times in a row.
What is he fucking saying?
dan friesen
The pauses are so long.
jordan holmes
Does he think...
Wait.
But, okay.
Does he think China isn't buying our stuff?
What is not being...
How does...
Does China not have a civilization right now?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Do they not have one?
dan friesen
No.
They certainly haven't for thousands of years.
jordan holmes
Aren't they doing all right?
I feel like they're doing all right.
dan friesen
Maybe not the common man on the streets.
Maybe not doing that great.
jordan holmes
But compared to what they were 30 years ago, I mean, they're doing amazing.
dan friesen
Sure, yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, there's been a new industrial...
Like, it's not...
It's a work in progress.
It's a lot like when America and Britain got hit with the Industrial Revolution.
Like, yeah, a lot of lives improved, but also there were fucking child workers in a goddamn factory.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
It's growing pains.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, I mean, that's not great, but...
Also, that sitcom was terrible.
dan friesen
Agreed.
But also, I love the line, nothing against China, when all he does is talk shit on China.
jordan holmes
Yeah, when all he does is talk shit on China.
dan friesen
But also, I don't fucking know what...
That's how the cow ate the cabbage.
I've never...
Haven't you heard that turn of phrase?
jordan holmes
No, haven't you heard that's how the cow ate the cabbage?
I have not.
Well, do you know what?
Okay, so you've got a cow.
All right.
And he's going to go into a cabbage field.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
And you're like, how is he going to do it?
And then he just fucking knocks down China and moves Boeing's jobs back to America.
And that's how the cow ate the cabbage.
dan friesen
Also, I read a nice report the other day about how it's really absurd.
To imagine...
jordan holmes
Absurd doesn't even have meaning anymore.
All life is absurd now.
dan friesen
It's absurd to think that all of the parts of a plane would be built in the same place.
How it works is there's different component parts that are made in factories all over the place.
jordan holmes
And it makes sense.
dan friesen
And a lot of the parts actually are made already in America.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Well, there's a lot of stuff that's hard to transport, and if you need certain resources, it's a good idea to be close to those resources.
That cuts down on your logistics costs.
Yeah, it's all a good idea.
dan friesen
And let's not fucking split hairs.
The idea of factory jobs saving us is so stupid.
jordan holmes
No, that's gone.
It's gone.
It's over.
dan friesen
It's insane to not recognize how automation is absolutely...
Going to take all of the jobs way before globalization.
jordan holmes
But, you know, I was actually reading a really, really good and cogent thought about how this campaign, both candidates were hearkening back to this vision of America from the 1950s.
dan friesen
Folksy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Like, you know, my grandfather was a small business owner, and you're like, so?
That doesn't affect...
So?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, that's not a story that resonates.
Like, our generation is fucked, and we're watching climate change happen to us.
It's 65 degrees in fucking February in Chicago.
dan friesen
And sinkholes are opening in L.A. where fire trucks are falling through the street.
jordan holmes
There are fucking floods coming.
And climate change isn't supposed to happen real bad until five years from now.
Why isn't anybody going full forward?
Trump is a fucking monster, but tomorrow if he comes out and says we're going to be the most radical country on fighting climate change as we possibly can, he's going to be better for us than any other candidate.
dan friesen
But he couldn't do that because so much of that would involve regulation and impeding business.
Let's get to this next clip.
I'm going to make a hard request.
Let's just listen to this all the way through.
Because it also gives us some weird insight into Alex's past.
And he begins by talking about communism, but what he ends up talking about is one of those horrible examples of toxic masculinity, and I really think this story is super fucked up.
alex jones
The globalists want to control revolution to the universities they own and control the big corporate donors and the corporate grants.
Are they what?
All human rebellion to be socialist or communist so that you build a centralized system they control and you get demoralized and you're so dumbed down you don't even know that communism is designed to centralize power and doesn't work except for the elites.
You're being given a worthless college degree you pay for so we want to have you so psychologically wrecked when you figure it out that you never figure it out.
And you're just a bitter, screwed up loser.
They don't ever want you to win and learn competency.
I don't want to get into stories about my childhood and things, but the things that were horrible at the time and that were just absolutely really scary was kind of the end of America.
A lot of people go see movies with, like, gangs and people meeting in a parking lot with chains and knives and people getting killed, and you think, oh, that's just in movies.
No, that's what America, if you're really a young person, used to be like, and it was like you were men.
If people said, you know, come meet all three of us after school in the woods, over by the railroad track, you went there because you were a man.
I mean, I would go meet people knowing there'd be multiple people there.
They were all intending to hurt me.
And I would still go, even though I got my leg broken, concussions, hospital, you name it, I still went.
jordan holmes
Why?
alex jones
Where is that today?
That's a fighting spirit.
And didn't mean I won every time either.
By the time I got a little bigger, I always did pretty much.
unidentified
Sometimes the switch had to get flipped.
alex jones
And then people got hurt really bad every time.
dan friesen
I just want to butt in there because you were yelling over.
He was saying, then the switch got flipped.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And then I became a...
Fuck you.
dan friesen
He made a gesture, and I'm not entirely sure that this is what he meant.
But when he said the switch got flipped, he made a gesture that looked like he was talking about a switchblade knife.
jordan holmes
Which would imply that he stabbed some dudes.
That he stabbed a motherfucker, yeah.
dan friesen
Then he does say, like, a switch got flipped, and then people got hurt real bad.
jordan holmes
Why?
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Why would you...
This is such a, like...
dan friesen
It's masculinity.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And it's not done.
jordan holmes
No, and that's...
dan friesen
Here we go.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Fuck you.
Not you.
alex jones
Sometimes you run into other men that can flip that switch and then learn not to flip that switch.
And that's what the globalists need to understand.
You don't even have that switch or you wouldn't want to go where you're trying to take us because you haven't been there as adults.
You didn't go through rites of passage.
You're still trying to be men.
Zuckerberg, you could be a man and help humanity and not be part of this control freak cult.
So could Schmidt.
And all of you, but you just come from trash.
And so I guess trash begets trash.
dan friesen
Where were we?
There's a whole lot there.
jordan holmes
That is such a fucking insane...
Have you ever read Futuristic Violence in Fancy Suits?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I would recommend reading it.
You got it.
It's by David Wong.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
It's like this near-future...
Science fiction kind of thing.
And it is basically like Reddit culture, Gamergate culture, 4chan, like gone wild.
In that there's this one dude who is just...
dan friesen
So it's basically what we're dealing with now.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
He's called Moloch.
dan friesen
So Milo.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
And his whole thing is like, we're reclaiming testosterone.
dan friesen
So Alex.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
It's...
Right on with what he's saying.
dan friesen
It's freakish.
jordan holmes
It's terrifying.
dan friesen
This idea of fantasizing about a past where men would go beat each other up in the woods and stuff is so fucking awful.
jordan holmes
It's gross!
It's a bad idea!
Plan ahead!
Don't fight, win!
dan friesen
I got bullied a lot in school because I have a cross-eye and I was a nerd and I was chubby as a kid.
And a lot of people took me as a good target and maybe I was.
And there was a lot of, like, gonna kick your ass after school.
And I'd just laugh.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, come meet us over here.
Like, no, I will not.
jordan holmes
No, you're gonna hurt me.
Why would I go there?
dan friesen
That's so stupid.
jordan holmes
That's a bad idea on my part.
dan friesen
Yeah, and I never felt like I wasn't...
Being a manly.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
Because I didn't go...
jordan holmes
That's called not being a fucking idiot.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
And then...
unidentified
But whenever I grew up, I never lost a fight.
jordan holmes
I turned that switch.
Globalists wish they could turn that switch.
unidentified
I've met men who can turn that switch and I taught them not to turn that switch.
jordan holmes
But globalists, fuck you.
dan friesen
You know who can turn that switch?
John Rappaport.
He takes those fake teeth out and it's game on.
Like, I don't understand this fetishization of...
I don't understand what it is where just masculinity is all that matters.
unidentified
I don't want to live in that world.
dan friesen
That's bad.
jordan holmes
It's a bad world.
dan friesen
I also don't want to necessarily live in Alex Jones' fake fantasy world that he thinks is being created by the globalists where men and women don't exist or anything like that.
But the idea of trans identity and gender fluidity and those sorts of things don't at all threaten masculinity or femininity.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
They don't at all.
If anything, everything gains by accepting a broader spectrum of reality.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You learn.
You learn.
You learn more about people.
dan friesen
And what it comes down to is this, I mean, we've hit on it a couple times already this episode, it's that I don't understand privilege.
I don't understand what these marginalized groups are actually saying.
I take it personally, and I get mad about it.
jordan holmes
And frankly, you don't understand the lessons to be learned from West Side Story.
Which is that you don't go dance fight.
You love each other.
dan friesen
He learned one lesson, and that is that he likes to be in America.
jordan holmes
He's referencing the Warriors the whole time, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
Warriors!
dan friesen
Warriors!
jordan holmes
Come out to Alex Jones!
dan friesen
Do you remember that part in The Warriors where one guy tries to rape a police officer?
jordan holmes
I am waiting for that to be something Alex Jones says.
In the middle of a broadcast, just be like, hey, you guys remember that part in The Warriors?
dan friesen
The Warriors, it's actually literally about the transcripts that came out from the CFR.
jordan holmes
The Zionists don't want you to hear about the Warriors.
dan friesen
There's a part in the Warriors where they're going to rape a female police officer on a park bench.
jordan holmes
Like you do.
dan friesen
And one of them doesn't want to, and he asks, what, have you gone fag?
Holy shit, this was okay.
jordan holmes
That was fine.
That was a world we lived in.
unidentified
That's insane.
jordan holmes
That was...
dan friesen
I think the broad strokes of the Warriors is a really interesting story that's being told, but that stuff is in that movie.
It's like, oh, fuck.
jordan holmes
You can't go back and watch so many movies without being like, holy shit!
dan friesen
Well, yeah, the really clunky understanding of people in the 70s.
jordan holmes
I mean, you can't even go back and watch an Eddie Murphy special without being like, oh, oh, no.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Nice coat, though.
unidentified
Nice coat.
jordan holmes
You know how to dress, man.
dan friesen
So this next clip, we only have a couple left.
This next clip is called, I don't remember what it is, but I know that it's him saying something really sincere and serious and then pivoting hard into an ad.
Which I always fucking love.
jordan holmes
That's the best!
How do you pivot from fucking white genocide is happening to, you know, my dad makes this toothpaste, it's called Super Blue.
unidentified
Do you not understand that the globalists and the chai comms want to kill you?
dan friesen
Alright, we got weird pills.
But yeah, it's that fun transition.
jordan holmes
George Soros is a monster, and unless you eat ground-up bones, you will never be able to fight against him.
dan friesen
I think this might be a caveman.
jordan holmes
Oh, fuck yes!
dan friesen
But also, it is that you can see the transition from, like, demagogue Alex into salesman Alex.
And I always fucking love that.
alex jones
These people are garbage.
And it's time to call them out for who they are and stop being afraid of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
And I'm calling all of them out.
And so is Trump.
jordan holmes
Gonna see you at high noon.
alex jones
If they fight us, we win.
If they kill us, we win.
If we defeat them, we win.
We win.
It's true.
You're gonna get so tired of winning.
That's what humanity's supposed to do.
Not be a bunch of losers.
We've gotten to the point where anything's possible now.
Anything.
We get past these people, we're gonna look into the future, and they're gonna look back and just say, unbelievable.
dan friesen
Also, I'd like to just take a second to be like...
Everything is possible.
We can be accepting of people with different identities.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Also, I like the idea of, like, you're going to get so tired of winning, but also winning includes you getting murdered sometimes.
So, yeah, you will totally get tired of winning.
It's a real bummer half the time.
You might even think you're losing if you're the one getting murdered, but you're not.
You're winning.
dan friesen
While winning, it'll feel like losing.
jordan holmes
It'll feel a lot like getting murdered.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
This is going to be the big game time.
This is going to be celebrated.
This is going to be studied.
There's going to be statues.
There's going to be spaceships named after what's happening.
There's going to be colonies.
It's going to be unbelievable.
If we learn to celebrate our humanity and God and learn to celebrate the rites of passage and who we are.
I've got to get to the clips, just briefly.
We've come out with...
I mean, we always shout out to have the very best products.
And I just said, look, everybody talks about how bone broth is so good, chicken bones, beef bones, you name it, boiling it, all that, for being sick or being healthy or for NFL people or weightlifters or everything else, and for just super nutrients and feeling good.
I want to go out, research the very best stuff out there, and come out with our own, and we've done it.
It's Caveman True Paleo Formula, Infowarslife.com, and your purchase helps fund the operation made with cartilage, bone, broth, paleo ingredients.
The next generation of advanced paleonutrition.
And it's the bones that actually have, with the marrow and all the rest of it, the real sustenance.
And that's what this has got and a lot more.
It's also achanga mushroom, alfalfa herb powder, bee pollen, turmeric root is key, and so many other ingredients.
Chicken broth powder protein.
Everybody knows, like, chicken noodle soup.
That's just a tiny bit of the essence of the chicken bones.
If there's not chicken bones, folks, in your chicken noodle soup you're cooking, you're not getting what grandma knew you needed when you were sick.
This is like literally hundreds of times what you'd get in an original chicken noodle soup each serving.
I mean, this is like the concentrate of, because the chicken is the cleanest bone marrow.
dan friesen
This is his new product.
jordan holmes
What is fucking happening?
dan friesen
This is his new product.
He sounds so bored by it already.
jordan holmes
It is.
Well, okay.
dan friesen
And we're not.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
We are more fascinated.
jordan holmes
This is endlessly fascinating.
dan friesen
We are more fascinated than he is.
jordan holmes
The number of ingredients they have jammed into a pill.
dan friesen
Chonka mushrooms.
jordan holmes
Ridiculous.
How could you even fit that many ingredients to do?
Also, okay.
alex jones
Bone.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Cartilage.
unidentified
How long?
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
How long?
Before there's a Vox essay where it's just basically Charlton Heston going, Caveman is made of people!
It's people!
You maniacs!
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Caveman is totally made of people, isn't it?
dan friesen
It's made of bones.
jordan holmes
It's made of human bones.
dan friesen
Chicken bones.
They're the cleanest bones.
jordan holmes
What does that even fucking mean?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
What does any of what he just said mean?
dan friesen
I don't know, and he doesn't know either.
jordan holmes
What does that mean?
Is there...
Chicken bones...
dan friesen
Clean bones.
jordan holmes
Are the cleanest bones.
dan friesen
Cleanest bones.
jordan holmes
They're the cleanest bones.
dan friesen
Cleanest.
jordan holmes
I don't know what that means.
Nope.
Is that a benefit?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
So are...
dan friesen
Don't know why you're asking me.
jordan holmes
Do we eat dirty bones?
Are dirty bones bad for me?
How are dirty bones bad for me?
dan friesen
I don't eat bones, period.
jordan holmes
Shouldn't you clean any bones?
Who is just eating dirty bones?
And your grandma knew that chicken broth was important, so we're going to put a hundred times!
You know how when you were like, man, my grandma wants me to eat this apple, so instead I'm going to eat a hundred apples!
dan friesen
Yeah, it's the same thing with supplements having 5,000% of your daily intake of vitamin C. Yeah, that's not good!
It's bullshit, because your body can't even absorb that much, you just pee it out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, why would you even want 5,000?
There's a reason 100% exists as a...
Number.
dan friesen
Listen.
jordan holmes
A 5,000% is scary.
dan friesen
You sound stupid right now.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I'm not going to lie to you.
dan friesen
You know why?
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
Because none of us take in enough bones.
So a hundred times what we're taking in now is just enough.
jordan holmes
See, for somebody who raves so often about cannibals, it sure seems like he's leaning towards becoming a cannibal.
dan friesen
You're so implying that it's human bones.
jordan holmes
It's human bones.
That's what it is.
Don't lie.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Let's all just quietly sit and agree.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
It's made of people.
dan friesen
It's so insane.
jordan holmes
Why else would he be called Caveman?
They break into museums, they crush up Lucy, and they fucking get this shit done.
dan friesen
The pillow down man?
Put him in a pill?
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
dan friesen
So what's great is we will have spaceships and colonies named after us.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm gonna get to the clips, but also...
I got bone pills.
jordan holmes
I got bone pills.
What are we going to name one of these colonies?
We're going to name them colonies of bone pills.
dan friesen
We're going to name this colony Super Male Vitality.
jordan holmes
How do you think we're going to make multiple light year trips?
dan friesen
Bone pills.
jordan holmes
Maybe if you run out of bone pills, you also have a formula to make more bone pills.
dan friesen
I have a leg.
I don't know if that's a formula.
jordan holmes
We're now in Snowpiercer.
We're in Snowpiercer world.
dan friesen
Hey everybody, if you run out of bone pills, I would like to recommend that you get on auto-ship so you can just get things sent to you directly.
But if we run out, you always have a femur.
Go ahead.
Take out that femur, grind it up real good.
unidentified
Just give it a good old grind.
dan friesen
Infowarsstore.com sells a mortar and pestle.
Just crunch up that bone.
jordan holmes
That first colony, we're going to name it femur.
We're going to name it...
dan friesen
No, we're not too close to femur.
And we know that they're making slave camps.
We're going to go with, I can't think of another bone.
jordan holmes
Do you know what the moon of Jupiter is called now?
unidentified
Tibia.
dan friesen
Tibia.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
Saturn?
The rings?
Phibia rings.
That's what they're called.
Tarsals.
Metatarsals.
Doesn't even matter.
Grind them up.
Grind them up.
Fucking shove them in your face.
dan friesen
But do not eat the coccyx.
Because that's what the liberal globalists would want.
jordan holmes
No real man would eat a coccyx.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
All right.
So here we go.
We got our last clip here.
This one is finally like two and a half hours into the show.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He's had an interview with David Horowitz that was meandering and pointless.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He later ends up doing an interview at the end of the show.
jordan holmes
Has anybody made the joke, maybe it's David Horowitz?
dan friesen
I'm sure someone has.
jordan holmes
I don't think anybody has.
I think I'm the original thing.
I'm the voice of my generation.
dan friesen
Much like our White House Home Improvement, no one steal that joke.
No one steal that joke.
jordan holmes
No, you can definitely have that one.
dan friesen
This is when he finally gets around to the press conference.
And so I've actually just isolated this clip.
It's a little bit longer, but we can interrupt at any point.
This is entire coverage of the hour and ten minute or whatever press conference where he again asked a black reporter if she knew the...
The Black Caucus.
jordan holmes
The Black Caucus, personally.
dan friesen
He told multiple reporters to shut up.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
He lied repeatedly.
One of them we played earlier about Hillary selling uranium to the Russians.
jordan holmes
He explained how nuclear weapons work to an entire people that did not need that information.
We already know it.
It's bad.
dan friesen
He was a combative prick and sounded like an asshole.
jordan holmes
He sounded like a petulant eight-year-old.
dan friesen
And now none of that is in this analysis.
jordan holmes
Could not imagine that.
dan friesen
All of that stuff that is way more important is not in that analysis.
jordan holmes
What do we got?
dan friesen
Let's enjoy fucking Alex Jones, the truth teller, covering the big news.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Let's go ahead and get to some of the Trump press conference here.
Let's go with I inherited a mess, Trump holds press conference, blast media dishonesty.
jordan holmes
He is reading an InfoWars headline.
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
I don't even need you to tell me that.
I can hear the InfoWars headline in his fucking voice.
dan friesen
And I hope all of you out there are starting to get trained to decipher these things yourself.
jordan holmes
And if you're not...
Bone pills.
That's the way you do it.
We've been eating bone pills here for a long while at Knowledge Fight.
At Knowledge underscore fight, tell us which bones you want in pill form.
dan friesen
On Twitter.
Hit us up.
Our DMs are open.
Slide on in.
alex jones
What we inherited was a massacre of our economy and globalists just selling off every facet.
Our roads, our streams, our rivers, our mines, the last...
Lead smelting plants shutting down three years ago, shutting down the farms, preparing for total control, selling the jobs, boosting the power prices, making you pay more for a 200-square-foot apartment than a 1,000-foot laughing at you, making it trendy, just as they live in like 50,000 -square-foot homes.
Just total criminal activity.
jordan holmes
I agree with like 40% of the things that he listed there.
Like what?
dan friesen
You mean you support them?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
They have sold off.
It wasn't a massacre of our economy, as we all saw from the jobs and stock market.
dan friesen
Sure, sure, sure.
jordan holmes
All the stuff steadily growing.
But yeah, no, they've sold off.
Just Chicago's parking.
They sold all of that off.
They just sold it.
dan friesen
And our airports.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they just sold them.
dan friesen
Privatized all that shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you should not do that.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
That's bad.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
And you know what?
If the globalists are doing that, I will say right now, I am against the globalists.
dan friesen
You're against this group that doesn't exist.
jordan holmes
I am against an imaginary group that does exactly what the Chicago mayor is doing right now.
dan friesen
And what Trump is going to do on a massive scale.
jordan holmes
And he's so trying so hard to do.
dan friesen
He's going to do that to our national parks.
jordan holmes
That's what he wants to get rid of.
He is against natural beauty.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Well, it makes sense.
jordan holmes
Well, that's a good point.
He only likes Ivanka's beauty.
You know what I'm saying?
alex jones
Meanwhile, discredited Brian Williams trying to discredit media.
I've got a bunch of breaking news on InfoWars.com.
dan friesen
I also want to say, and I think you'll agree with me here, fuck Brian Williams.
jordan holmes
Fuck Brian Williams.
dan friesen
None of us give a shit about him.
jordan holmes
Somebody tried to insist to me that he was a journalist and I wanted to punch him in the face.
He's a smiling face on TV.
Good on him.
dan friesen
He's good in some comedy stuff.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's great on 30 Rock.
dan friesen
He does like a Leslie Nielsen thing where it's like he's playing really straight and it's hilarious.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's great on 30 Rock.
dan friesen
And he was good at telling the news for a bit, but it also turns out he's a fucking liar.
jordan holmes
Who would have guessed?
dan friesen
So who cares?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Who cares?
dan friesen
His idea that like, oh, I'm going to take a shot at Brian Williams and that proves that you guys are dumb.
No, you're pretending.
jordan holmes
If you're on Brian Williams' side, you're probably wrong.
dan friesen
Yeah, but also just because Brian Williams...
jordan holmes
Or at the very least, who cares?
dan friesen
Right, but Brian Williams saying that Trump is an asshole or whatever, that doesn't have any bearing on what I believe.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I don't care.
If he happens to agree with me, whatever.
jordan holmes
If Dave and IT...
Tells me that Trump is garbage.
I'm like, good on you, Dave from IT.
But I don't care.
I need zero reinforcement from you, Dave from IT.
dan friesen
If you get into an argument with somebody, you're not going to be like, well, listen, my very reputable source, Dave in IT, tells me that Trump is an asshole.
jordan holmes
And then he's like, well, did you know that Dave never even worked in IT?
And you're like, what?
I guess Trump is great now.
That is not how that works.
dan friesen
And that would be like, there's a right-wing show that all of a sudden, to defend their point, is attacking Dave and IT.
jordan holmes
Who cares?
Look, I do.
Fuck Dave and IT.
dan friesen
I agree.
Like, the idea is comical because it's so petty.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's so petty.
dan friesen
It's so much nothing.
jordan holmes
Again, it would be so fucking funny if it weren't the reality destroying us from the inside.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
Absolutely.
alex jones
This is a big one.
Muslim sympathizers of the CIA behind Trump leaks.
I know we already know that, but he's got the documents and the actual files.
jordan holmes
He doesn't.
dan friesen
He's talking about John Brennan, who he believes is a Wahhabist just because he has Islamic sympathies and may or may not have converted to Islam.
If he did, who gives a shit?
jordan holmes
Again.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Nonsense.
dan friesen
And no reputable source I can find at all has any indication that he is any kind of radical.
jordan holmes
But let me ask you a question.
Did you read Infowars?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I'll tell you what they think.
unidentified
We know what they think.
jordan holmes
I think he'll tell us what they think.
dan friesen
We fucking already know.
alex jones
This is a big deal.
I want to get Corsi on Sunday if you can come on, guys, to the crew.
But I'm going to stop there.
I apologize.
Let's go to the president.
You said it's President Trump.
Could never happen.
Would never happen.
And now you say all over the news you're just going to kill him.
And they have little wimpy CIA guys going to him.
He's a domestic enemy and needs to be dealt with.
jordan holmes
They need super male vitality.
dan friesen
Again, that's about Evan McMullin, and the other stuff is not really about anything.
It's not all over the news, let's kill Trump.
It's not.
It's 100% not.
jordan holmes
It's really not.
dan friesen
Because if it was, people would be getting fucking arrested.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
You can't say kill the president.
jordan holmes
And Trump...
Would love nothing more than for people to advocate his death.
Because then he would have an excuse to go crazy town on journalists.
dan friesen
Well, on a very much smaller level, you saw that Trump-Associated Political Action Committee was making robocalls to people trying to get Trump impeached.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which is exactly what someone crazy would do!
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
It's a false flag!
dan friesen
It is!
jordan holmes
It's a literal false flag!
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
His people, or people who supported him, I don't know if he was necessarily involved in that, but people who were on his side were pretending to be against him to anger the people who were on his side.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fucking insanity.
jordan holmes
It's...
It's insanity like a...
It's fucking crazy.
dan friesen
That's how the cow ate the cabbage!
alex jones
Because you think because you went on CNN and these big corporate guys are patting you on the head and you're in a group that you guys all feel powerful and we're going to have a civil war and start arresting our enemies.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
That's what we're going to do.
You think you're picking on some Iraqis, dumbass?
unidentified
What?
alex jones
You really think so, huh?
jordan holmes
Fake laugh.
alex jones
We want to help poor people in this economy going.
I mean, if you guys walk down that road.
It's like Grendel going to visit Beowulf, but you're not even like Grendel.
You're more like a one-foot-tall gremlin with a weenie so little you can't even see it.
I mean, spiritually, it's just a complete joke.
dan friesen
He might have read Beowulf when he was six.
Grendel gets killed.
jordan holmes
Walking down the road, going up like, Hey, Beowulf!
So Grendel's on one side of the fence, and Beowulf is Tim the Toolman Taylor.
dan friesen
I like this.
jordan holmes
That's what we're trying to go into.
How many more, Tim, how many more home improvement riffs can we make?
dan friesen
Where's Grendel's mom in all this?
Is she the wife?
jordan holmes
Boy, I don't know.
I think we've lost track of the Grendel reference here.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think he did too.
alex jones
Much quicker.
jordan holmes
Do you mean at the very making of the reference?
alex jones
So, I mean, just what the hell's your problem, man?
Just get over the fact you hate yourself.
You're projecting it on us and just get out of the way.
Move, bitch!
Get out the way!
Get out the way!
You see them headlights?
I'm going 100 down the highway.
You're in the fast lane.
You see me knock them curtains down?
You see what happens with the crowd?
You see what's going on?
You understand that I talk to people how they feel because I feel that way?
I'm genuine?
Something you'll never have?
Move!
Get out the way!
jordan holmes
Pause that.
Did he just drop a real verse right there?
I think he did.
I think he just dropped a verse.
I think he just dropped 10 bars.
dan friesen
I gotta rewind.
jordan holmes
Yeah, bring this back.
I want to start with move, bitch, get out the way, because I think he added his own verse to that.
unidentified
Really lightly, let's put a beatbox on this.
alex jones
Complete joke.
So, I mean, just what the hell is your problem, man?
Just get over the fact you hate yourself.
You're projecting it on us and just get out of the way.
Move, bitch!
Get out the way!
Get out the way!
You see them headlights?
I'm going 100 down the highway.
You're in the fast lane.
You see me knock them curtains down?
You see what happens with the crowd?
You see what's going on?
You understand that I talk to people how they feel because I feel that way?
I'm genuine?
Something you'll never have?
Move!
Get out the way!
jordan holmes
He dropped a verse!
unidentified
Fuck yeah!
No!
jordan holmes
End of the show!
End of the show!
He just dropped a goddamn verse!
That is a motherfucking ten bars right there!
That ain't shit!
Black Thought, that is right fucking there!
dan friesen
Oh my god!
Oh my god!
That's the greatest thing ever!
I didn't even fucking catch that!
jordan holmes
How could you not?
That is a man dropping hot fucking...
Fire right there.
dan friesen
I thought that was just dumb, spasmatic talking.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Could you see these headlights?
I'm on the highway.
alex jones
Oh, my God.
dan friesen
That is all a rap.
jordan holmes
It is a full...
You know what?
dan friesen
Holy shit.
jordan holmes
It wasn't terrible.
It wasn't terrible.
He can't rhyme.
Motherfucking can't rhyme for shit.
dan friesen
No, but that's art rap.
jordan holmes
That is.
That is riffraff.
dan friesen
Holy shit.
I mean, let's be honest.
jordan holmes
Guys, I want you to be able to see Friesen's face right now.
dan friesen
I'm freaking out.
jordan holmes
Because he has been destroyed by this new information.
It is a delight.
dan friesen
Let me walk you through why I'm so fucking flummoxed.
He does say that move, bitch, get out the way thing a lot.
Like, when he was talking about Hillary in the election, he'd use Ludacris's...
jordan holmes
And I'm sure Ludacris was 100% on board with that.
dan friesen
He's on board just as much as Moby is.
But, like...
I'm at a loss for words.
jordan holmes
You are grappling with a lot of emotions that you never thought you were going to have to deal with.
dan friesen
I can't handle this.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Can we listen to that one more time?
dan friesen
Yeah, we can.
jordan holmes
Can we isolate you doing the hip, you doing the beatboxing?
unidentified
Like...
Alright, well, maybe not that.
jordan holmes
Let's do that one more time.
alex jones
You guys walk down that road.
It's like Grendel going to visit Beowulf.
dan friesen
I went too far back.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But also, when this does play, I need this to be clear.
His rap needs work.
jordan holmes
It does.
dan friesen
It's not good.
jordan holmes
We're not arguing on the quality of his rap.
dan friesen
I don't want anyone out there to think that I like bad rap.
jordan holmes
We're well-documented hip-hop fans.
alex jones
But you're not even like Grendel.
You're more like a one-foot-tall gremlin with a weenie so little you can't even see it.
I mean, spiritually, it's just a complete joke.
jordan holmes
I miss the small weenie part.
alex jones
What the hell is your problem, man?
Just get over the fact you hate yourself.
You're projecting it on us and just get out of the way.
Move, bitch.
Get out the way.
Get out the way.
You see them headlights?
I'm going 100 down the highway.
You're in the fast lane.
You see me?
Knock them curtains down.
You see what happens with the crowd?
You see what's going on?
You understand that I talk to people how they feel because I feel that way?
dan friesen
He legitimately said, you see what's happening with the crowd?
He's like pretending he's alive.
He's at a show.
In his head, he's at that Run the Jewels show, and he's...
jordan holmes
This is fucking fantastic.
unidentified
Holy fuck.
jordan holmes
We just destroyed your paradigm.
dan friesen
Well, like, look, earlier in the show, we were talking about me really psychoanalyzing him as a child and all this and being the expert on Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You did not know.
You did not know.
dan friesen
But that's why he's a fucking...
Like, I've described him as a propaganda onion.
jordan holmes
We have...
dan friesen
There's layers.
jordan holmes
We have gone through...
So many times, so many times, I've thought, there's just no more.
There's no deeper to go in Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Or I can never be surprised.
jordan holmes
I can never be surprised by Alex Jones.
I am always and consistently surprised by Alex Jones.
dan friesen
I pulled this clip and I'm surprised.
jordan holmes
You had no idea.
dan friesen
Yeah.
To be fair, like I said, I pulled these clips drunk last night.
Anyway, let's get through this and see what happens after the wrapping.
alex jones
Genuine?
Something you'll never have?
jordan holmes
Genuine, actually.
alex jones
Move!
Get out the way!
These people have searched for power, and all they've found is their own destruction.
They were only the stimuli to strengthen us and prod us to the next level.
dan friesen
I just had a horrifying thought.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
What if all of his entire show is avant-garde jazz?
Scat talk.
jordan holmes
So we're going...
unidentified
What if all of it is performance art jazz scat?
dan friesen
What if it is?
We have to completely readjust our whole approach.
jordan holmes
Okay, everybody who's listened to our podcast, we're going to delete all of the old ones.
We're starting fresh from the new premise that this is Scatman Carruthers.
dan friesen
Scatman Jones!
jordan holmes
Come back to life.
Holy shit!
dan friesen
Wow.
It's...
Oh, my God.
jordan holmes
I love this.
alex jones
They were only the flies, the gnats, and the swamp biting us, so we'd get out of the swamp.
Get out of the swamp!
And they'd fly back confidently to their swamp and, you know, nest upon piles of crap.
Skip this break.
I just have to...
I'll skip them all.
I don't care anymore.
Let's go ahead and go to the president.
jordan holmes
Here it is.
donald j trump
Unfortunately, much of the media in Washington, D.C., along with New York, Los Angeles, in particular, speaks.
Not for the people, but for the special interests and for those profiting off a very, very obviously broken system.
jordan holmes
Like him!
donald j trump
The press has become so dishonest that if we don't talk about it, we are doing a tremendous disservice to the American people.
Tremendous disservice.
We have to talk about it to find out what's going on, because the press honestly is out of control.
The level of dishonesty is out of control.
I ran for president to represent the citizens of our country.
I am here to change the broken system so it serves their families and their communities well.
I am talking and really talking on this very entrenched power structure.
And what we're doing is we're talking about the power structure.
We're talking about its entrenchment.
dan friesen
I can't listen to this now without questioning whether Trump is laying a lazy verse down.
I've been infected now.
I'm looking for meter anywhere, and I'm just like, what is...
unidentified
I've been destroyed.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
I really wish you had...
God, I wish his voice were nowhere near us.
dan friesen
Yeah, but it won't be too much longer.
jordan holmes
He's a...
Fucking crazy person.
dan friesen
Yeah, but you understand, like, Alex is playing just this clip because it's where he's not interacting and having to answer questions or anything like that.
He has his prepared statements, and they're wrong.
They're cancerous.
jordan holmes
How do you...
dan friesen
But at the same time, he doesn't sound that crazy because he's not being called on shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So Alex only, like, really...
jordan holmes
Yeah, somehow what he just said, comparatively speaking, doesn't sound crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's how...
Oh, God.
dan friesen
Through the looking glass, baby.
donald j trump
Result, the media is going through what they have to go through to oftentimes distort.
Not all the time.
And some of the media is fantastic, I have to say.
They're honest and fantastic.
But much of it is not the distortion.
jordan holmes
And we'll talk about it.
donald j trump
You'll be able to ask me questions about it.
But we're not going to let it happen because I'm here again to take my message straight to the people.
As you know, our administration went on TV and was like, this is dangerous.
To be honest, I inherited a mess.
It's a mess.
dan friesen
I don't fully disagree with him.
jordan holmes
Again?
dan friesen
The government is always a mess.
jordan holmes
It is always a mess.
dan friesen
There's always entrenched interests.
There's always knots you have to untangle.
But the level of mess that he inherited compared to what Obama inherited eight years prior, it's unthinkable to think that he...
jordan holmes
You know what I've never thought?
dan friesen
To come out there and be like...
Well, this is a mess.
jordan holmes
I've never looked at a pile of laundry on my floor and been like, God damn it, I hate this mess.
You know what I'm gonna do?
Burn my couch down!
dan friesen
I'm gonna blame the gap.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
The store?
dan friesen
I'm gonna blame whoever sold me these clothes, wherever they came from.
jordan holmes
Oh, I inherited this fucking mess, so what I'm gonna do is I am going to...
What analogy is insane enough for this?
dan friesen
Here we go.
I haven't done laundry, so I am going to tell everyone who says I stink that they're a liar.
jordan holmes
Okay.
How about start from the beginning, all right?
And I'm going to drop a beat for you.
dan friesen
I'm on the highway.
On the flyway.
jordan holmes
No, this is done.
dan friesen
No, we're done.
I'm actually trying to rhyme.
jordan holmes
I know, you're failing.
donald j trump
At home and abroad, a mess.
jordan holmes
A mess.
donald j trump
Jobs are pouring out of the country.
jordan holmes
They're not.
donald j trump
See what's going on with all of the companies leaving our country, going to Mexico and other places.
jordan holmes
Definitely not.
donald j trump
Low pay, low wages.
Mass instability overseas, no matter where you look.
The Middle East, a disaster.
North Korea, we'll take care of it, folks.
We're going to take care of it all.
jordan holmes
How?
donald j trump
I just want to let you know, I inherited a mess.
dan friesen
That's preemptive, like, alright, when this goes poorly, just know that...
jordan holmes
It's not my fault.
dan friesen
Right.
It's kind of what I do at work a little bit.
It's kind of...
But I know...
And my bosses know I'm kind of lying.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There's a thing where it's like, look, there's a whole lot of bills that are overdue.
I didn't...
I'm just starting.
So, like, if I can't get all of this paid, I inherited a mess.
jordan holmes
First rule of government, blame the guys before you.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
And you know what?
For it.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Go for it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
At the very least...
You're doing what everybody else did.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
But, I mean, he inherited a mess.
We're killing people with flying robots.
That's messy.
dan friesen
That's a bad inheritance.
jordan holmes
The Middle East, it's been a mess for a long time.
dan friesen
I think it's in the Bible.
jordan holmes
I think it is in the Bible.
North Korea?
Agreed.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's a mess.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
His saying, we're going to take care of it, is the scariest part of North Korea.
I am not afraid of North Korea.
I am afraid of Trump saying, we're going to take care of it.
dan friesen
I'm afraid of him antagonizing it.
jordan holmes
I'm afraid of him saying, we're going to take care of anything.
Because anytime he says, we're going to take care of it, in my mind, I hear...
dan friesen
Exactly.
They killed Kim Jong-un's brother.
And the lady who killed him...
jordan holmes
Thought it was a prank show.
unidentified
What the fuck?
dan friesen
How are we going to take care of this?
jordan holmes
Do you know what's even crazier?
Now I'm reading shit that is implying that Kim Jong-un is the one who killed his brother.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
As a false flag.
dan friesen
No, probably.
jordan holmes
It's the only thing that makes sense.
dan friesen
That's what I always assumed.
No, absolutely.
Because he was a defector and he left North Korea.
Like, his dad didn't like him.
That's why Kim Jong-un is in power.
jordan holmes
You know, I didn't know anything about that.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I did not know that he was a defector.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He tried to flee, and he's been living outside of the country for a long time.
jordan holmes
Oh, well then, yeah, he's got to die.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
That makes sense.
I think we're going to take care of it.
dan friesen
Trump's going to take care of it.
donald j trump
Getting on day one, our administration went to work to tackle these challenges.
On foreign affairs, we've already begun enormously productive talks with many foreign leaders, much of it you've covered, to move forward towards stability, security, and peace in the most troubled regions of the world, which there are many.
We've had great conversations with the United Kingdom and meetings, Israel, Mexico, Japan, China, and Canada.
Really, really productive conversations.
I would say far more...
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
We're listening to Alex Jones.
alex jones
He wrote those notes.
They're his words.
Here, let's keep going.
jordan holmes
Can he write?
donald j trump
We've even developed a new council with Canada to promote women's business leaders and entrepreneurs.
Very important to me.
Very important to my daughter, Ivanka.
I have directed our defense community headed by our great general, now Secretary Mattis.
He's over there now, working very hard.
jordan holmes
That's like a weird shout-out.
donald j trump
At a wedding?
A group that celebrates the murder and torture of innocent people in large sections of the world.
Used to be a small group, now it's in large sections of the world.
They've spread like cancer.
jordan holmes
Can we not listen to him speak ever again?
donald j trump
ISIS has spread like cancer.
And the globalists funded the whole thing.
jordan holmes
Thank you, Alex.
alex jones
That's right.
Now, let's go to the key here.
jordan holmes
Thank you for that.
alex jones
Thank you for saving us.
Keep saying I'm with Russia with no growth, but I'm involved zero.
Hillary has ended up to her eyeballs, and way worse than the uranium, which even the New York Times has to admit she made the deals, took the money, did it?
dan friesen
No, they don't.
alex jones
One of her aides got 30-plus million dollars.
jordan holmes
Didn't.
alex jones
And then they gave millions to her foundation.
I mean, this was a giant criminal op with foreign governments with her meeting secretly with Putin for Russia's interests.
That's what governments are supposed to do.
And if a country's wide open can be bought off, that's what they do.
It's Machiavelli.
That should stop.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So our main boogeymen now...
dan friesen
I'm your boogeyman.
jordan holmes
...are the press.
dan friesen
Yes, big time.
jordan holmes
Big time the press.
They're the number one.
They're the number one boogeyman.
dan friesen
They're the enemy of the public.
jordan holmes
Now, are we so low on boogeymen that we're still going after Hillary?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Because Hillary is actually directing the press to do what it's doing through Soros funding and what have you.
There's a unified field theory of boogeyman.
jordan holmes
You've won.
unidentified
Me?
jordan holmes
The world is over.
Stop shitting on Hillary.
Let her go.
dan friesen
Again, it's petty.
jordan holmes
Let her go.
dan friesen
It's very petty.
jordan holmes
Let her go.
dan friesen
Well, he can't because...
jordan holmes
Because there are so few...
If there is a terrorist attack...
It's over, right?
dan friesen
Well, it's Hillary's fault.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I mean, if Trump gets, if the government we have now gets a terrorist attack to sink their teeth into on America.
dan friesen
If there's like a 9-11.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Then they get to end the world.
dan friesen
Basically.
jordan holmes
That's what they're going to do.
dan friesen
Trump has indicated he's very willing to use nuclear weapons.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If there's any kind of justification for it.
jordan holmes
He just wants to blow up everything.
dan friesen
Yeah, because he thinks that'll help.
But that's also because he read books on nuclear weapons when he was six.
Or, I'm sorry, that's Alex.
jordan holmes
No, that's Alex.
Trump has been planning this since he was 12. Yes, he's been aware.
According to Alex, Trump has known the game plan.
dan friesen
He knows the...
I'm...
Listen.
I want to go...
jordan holmes
We both ran out of gas immediately once the rap first hit.
dan friesen
Listen, also, the rest of this is just him responding to...
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, there's no way this is gonna...
dan friesen
No.
He just listens to...
The parts of Trump's press conference that are not unhinged.
jordan holmes
Even those are unhinged, though!
dan friesen
But they're not yelling at members of the press.
He's not being a complete dick to people for no reason.
jordan holmes
He's just saying lies.
He's just saying a series of lies.
dan friesen
But when I think about unhinged, I think about how out of control he was, how abusive he was to people.
That sort of thing.
That is really...
jordan holmes
What a simpler time when Unhinged was just a man shouting lies.
dan friesen
One reporter asked him about the bomb threats that had been going around to mosques and Jewish centers.
jordan holmes
And he was like, I hate Jews!
I'm paraphrasing, of course.
dan friesen
His answer was...
People make this claim.
I hate this claim.
I am the least racist person you've ever heard.
I'm the least anti-Semitic person.
Alex doesn't play that clip because if he did, he would have to be like, okay, now here, Trump has no listening comprehension.
He doesn't understand what this person is actually asking him.
jordan holmes
Now, on Trump's SAT argument, he did not get a good score.
dan friesen
Every single question that was asked at that press conference was not answered.
According to the question that was asked.
So Alex doesn't talk about any of that.
All he does is for about five minutes of his three-hour broadcast, because he gives up the fourth hour, he takes five minutes to play the parts where Trump is just talking and not answering questions.
He's lying, but he's not yelling and he's not combative.
And he's like, now the media is going to spin it that he's crazy.
And it's like, well...
If that's the only part that you're actually listening to, like if you're getting all of your news from Alex, you might think that that other stuff didn't happen.
jordan holmes
Even if that's the only part you're listening to...
That's crazy!
dan friesen
It's not if you actually believe they're a globalist boogeyman.
jordan holmes
That is crazy!
The media should spend...
If that was all that I read on a transcript on the WAPO, I don't know why I'm referencing them.
dan friesen
It's fun to say.
jordan holmes
Buzz marketing WAPO.
El WAPO is there.
Known in Hispania.
dan friesen
Yikes.
Finish your fucking thought.
jordan holmes
No, if that was the only transcript I read, that would be enough for me to go, this is fucking insane.
Everybody's losing their minds.
dan friesen
I'd be like, he can't possibly mean what he's saying.
That's a bad set.
jordan holmes
That's just, none of it makes words sense.
You know how words...
dan friesen
They're supposed to make sense.
jordan holmes
When you put them together, they're supposed to lead then towards, this is fucking insane.
dan friesen
What's awesome is that words make sentences.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I like where you're going.
dan friesen
The sentences are supposed to convey thoughts.
jordan holmes
Alright.
Tell me about these thoughts.
dan friesen
And generally, when you want to...
jordan holmes
I would prefer if you put it to a beat.
I should...
Okay.
dan friesen
We ruined this podcast with that.
We fucking are done.
jordan holmes
How do we end this?
dan friesen
I don't know.
You can follow us on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Subscribe on iTunes.
We're Knowledge Fight.
dan friesen
We're almost at three hours already.
We don't need any more.
Yeah, we're at Knowledge underscore Fight on Twitter.
We're on iTunes as Knowledge Fight.
jordan holmes
Please give us a review.
Give us a review.
Five stars or four.
dan friesen
And again, I'm going to make this promise.
If you rate us five stars and send us an email at knowledgefightatgmail.com, I will send a really mean tweet to Alex Jones.
No one's taken me up on it yet, but I'm ready.
jordan holmes
Give us a go.
dan friesen
Also, I want to make this offer.
We need to start monetizing this podcast a little bit.
If you guys want to support the show, I have a Patreon up at patreon.com slash freezing point.
And it's just a catch-all.
It's for all of the podcasts that I do.
jordan holmes
Doesn't involve me for tax purposes.
dan friesen
No, but you'll get some money if money flows in.
If you donate $10 a month or over.
You will receive in the mail one of the wine bottles autographed.
You'll get an autographed wine bottle empty because we've drank it all.
You'll get an autographed wine bottle for your mantle.
So if you want to donate, we'd appreciate it.
jordan holmes
That is the worst blind auction item you could possibly imagine.
dan friesen
Also, if you donate, let's say, I don't know.
$100 a month.
jordan holmes
We will give you bone pills.
We will give you bone pills made out of Friesen's bones.
dan friesen
No, I won't do that.
Maybe a tooth.
jordan holmes
I'll do it.
dan friesen
We'll give you $100 a month.
If anybody donates $100 a month, which is never going to happen, we will make Lock Her Up Frilly handcuffs.
We're not going to do that.
No.
jordan holmes
Please, also, please don't.
dan friesen
But please don't.
It would be nice.
It takes a lot of work.
jordan holmes
All shilling aside, this is super fun to do, and we love you guys.
Thank you so much for making cool stuff and giving it to us.
dan friesen
Yep.
Jordan, this has been fun.
Thank you so much for joining me as well.
jordan holmes
Always.
dan friesen
Guys, we'll catch you next time, but until then, you know, two of us.
jordan holmes
We're policy wonks.
dan friesen
Just a couple of fucking policy wonks.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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