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Feb. 16, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#13: February 14, 2017

February 14, 2017’s Knowledge Fight dissects Alex Jones’ 40-minute "deep state" rant, where he falsely tied Foreign Affairs articles to claims of Trump assassination, Flynn spying, and globalist pedophilia—none supported by evidence. His wild tangents, from AI cyborgs to satanic "vampire holes," abandoned the original topic entirely, exposing a pattern of paranoid improvisation. The episode reveals how Jones weaponizes unverified theories, blending occult fantasies with geopolitical misdirection, ultimately exposing his show’s reliance on fear over facts. [Automatically generated summary]

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alex jones
infowars 29:31
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dan friesen
01:03:39
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jordan holmes
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Speaker Time Text
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
unidentified
I'm my first time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
This is a podcast wherein I have watched way too much InfoWars and Alex Jones, and I sit down over a nice glass of wine with my friend Jordan.
jordan holmes
Who giggles like a fucking maniac every time Alex Jones speaks.
dan friesen
He is nuts.
I'm not talking about you.
unidentified
Well, eventually I will be.
dan friesen
I've been thinking about this.
I know that in our early episodes, you speculated that we would find an understanding of Alex or that you would start to empathize with him.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
I've got to be honest, I'm starting to hate him.
I used to be sort of amused or at least curious.
I think I hate him.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
My feelings about him are so very complicated.
Sure.
There's a raw physical attraction.
dan friesen
There's no doubt about it.
It's that super male vitality.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Whoa, whoa, you got way too excited about what just happened.
dan friesen
I don't have a clip of this, but InfoWars has a new product out.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
It's called Caveman.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
You know what it is?
jordan holmes
I just hope it's a big slab of meat.
dan friesen
No, better.
Ground up bones.
jordan holmes
Of an actual caveman?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Did they break into the Chicago Museum?
dan friesen
I'll be honest.
I wasn't fully listening to the commercial, but he was explaining how, like, animals will go after bones first because they want to get the marrow and all the stuff around the...
jordan holmes
I'm on board so far.
dan friesen
So they take bones.
jordan holmes
Where's the hammer drop?
dan friesen
They take bones.
They grind them up.
They put it in a pill, and they sell it to you.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That makes the least sense of anything I've ever heard.
dan friesen
I think that's what the product is.
jordan holmes
That is legit the best way for a serial killer to disseminate a body, right?
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
You can't catch a serial killer who's grinding up people into pills.
dan friesen
And I don't know if the FDA has got to get involved.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I'm not sure.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, with the lax protection laws for vitamins, they're good.
dan friesen
But look, that was just announced on Wednesday's show.
So this is breaking.
This is huge.
We'll learn more as time goes on.
Jordan, today, the reason that we had to do, we got to do this episode.
I know we had an episode come out yesterday about John Rappaport and the mental health scare of the world and how college campuses are blah, Right, right.
jordan holmes
Johnny raps hidden in the bushes.
dan friesen
But like a Batman.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Lurking.
Lurking.
dan friesen
Like a Batman.
jordan holmes
Lurking.
dan friesen
But we had to get back together and record another episode because in the time between when we recorded the Rappaport episode and it dropped, Mike Flynn, General Flynn finally stepped down.
And we knew.
jordan holmes
One of the fastest in history, which is just beautiful.
dan friesen
Yeah, so fast.
jordan holmes
We're living in perfectly normal times.
That's what's happening right there.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But we knew that Alex was going to have a response to it.
We knew that he was going to – he loves General Flynn.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, General Flynn has been on board since the very beginning, so I'm assuming InfoWars links.
dan friesen
Like he's not even.
I'm certain that Alex has talked to him.
I'm certain that the two of them have had conversations.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
And unlikely.
jordan holmes
Where else is Flynn going to get his fucking Supermale Vitality from?
dan friesen
Or Ground Up Bones.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Whoa, hold on.
Flynn has his own supply of Ground Up Bones.
dan friesen
That's a title.
jordan holmes
He does not need anybody else's Ground Up Bones.
unidentified
But so what was I?
Look.
jordan holmes
He retired.
Yes.
Quote unquote, retired.
He went into ignominy.
dan friesen
He decided to go start a farm or something like that.
And we'll look at his future career general goes enthusiasm.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I lost my train of thought, but we knew that Alex was going to be losing it.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Oh, this was my thought.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Last week, Alex, all he was talking about is like, I got inside information.
Reince Priebus, who he calls Reantz Priebus, is going down.
He's a snake in the grass.
jordan holmes
Priebus and butthead.
dan friesen
He keeps saying that Priebus is the one who's leaking, that Trump is wandering around in his bathrobe and shit like that.
He's trying to embarrass the president because he's a Paul Ryan acolyte who is actually funded by George Soros.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That is some complex deep state shit right there.
dan friesen
It's amazing.
So for the whole last week, he's been like, Priebus is going down.
Priebus is going down.
I'm going to break it for you on Monday.
Then on Monday, he's like, today and tomorrow, we're going to get into the leakers.
Tuesday, fucking Flynn is out, baby.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Priebus still there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Underwater.
He had to have defended Flynn and been like, he will stay in the office, right?
What do you mean?
I mean, before, because that was happening all over the place where, you know, the day before Flynn resigned, people were being like, nah, he's still going to stay in there.
This is completely unstable.
It's all fake news and yada, yada, yada.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
Because anything that's negative, Alex doesn't talk about.
jordan holmes
Oh, he doesn't talk about it at all.
dan friesen
So when there's inconvenient stuff, he just doesn't talk about like, he'll talk about the leaks and the inside sources that he has.
But when there's a source that's probably telling him like two days, three days ahead of time, like, Flynn's probably out.
He's not going to talk about that on the air.
jordan holmes
Really?
So he's not going to talk about it at all.
dan friesen
No, because it busts his narrative.
jordan holmes
That's it.
Well, but his narrative is not.
dan friesen
The truth is he doesn't actually have sources.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
We've established that most of this stuff comes from callers and from people who direct message Paul Joseph Watson on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
As evidence, concrete examples of that.
jordan holmes
You know, I can still, however, imagine late-night phone calls from Trump to Alex Jones, just like, I thought I was going to get more people's support.
unidentified
Dude.
I'm so sorry.
dan friesen
Dude, I thought they liked me.
jordan holmes
Alex, why don't they like me anymore?
dan friesen
I don't know, but I got some ground-up bone pills.
If you want to take them, make you feel great.
jordan holmes
I don't need your ground-up bone pills.
You know, I have my own.
dan friesen
You don't know what you got until you don't have.
You know what I'm getting at.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Until you don't have bones.
dan friesen
I tuned in on Tuesday to find out what the skinny was.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And let me tell you what I found.
jordan holmes
The Flinny was?
Okay, never mind.
dan friesen
Alex Jones went on air before his broadcast because he needed to make an emergency fucking signal, bat signal flying.
unidentified
What?
Yeah.
dan friesen
He put out an emergency broadcast before his four-hour show.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
He put out a 40-minute clip.
jordan holmes
But where did it air?
dan friesen
Did it air on Infowars.com, my friend?
jordan holmes
No way.
dan friesen
And on their YouTube channel.
And it's what we're mostly going to be dealing with is this.
jordan holmes
The 40-minute emergency broadcast.
dan friesen
And here's why I'm going to.
jordan holmes
Is it a drill?
dan friesen
It is not a drill.
jordan holmes
It's not a drill.
dan friesen
This is not Jade Helms.
jordan holmes
This is an emergency broadcast.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
The reason that we're going to cover this more than the actual episode itself is because the actual episode is super repetitive.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he's just hitting talking points over and over and over again.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's not that entertaining.
jordan holmes
But that's how you fight a scandal there is you just hammer this repetitive.
dan friesen
Put your heels in the mud.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
Put your head underground and just go, la Yeah.
dan friesen
So he does that on his show for Tuesday and really Wednesday.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
There has not been a whole lot of substance.
But in this clip, this emergency broadcast that just went out to the faithfuls on his own network, as opposed to being broadcast on all of the radio and all of that.
VM stations in bum fuck Virginia or whatever.
Then here he gets weird.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
So this is pure concentrated Alex Jones bullshit, right?
dan friesen
This shit is worth it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So that's what we're going to be talking about.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
Here's his first clip.
This is how he decides to open the broadcast and get to the central thing we should all be afraid about.
alex jones
It's Tuesday, February 14th, 2017.
And I'm about to go live with my syndicated radio/slash TV broadcast in about an hour and eight minutes.
jordan holmes
Dude, we need to.
alex jones
And Pollwars.com forward slash show.
But I had to come in early to break down.
dan friesen
I want to say really quick, too, I didn't lengthen any of these pauses.
I didn't.
These are his natural rhythms, how he wants to get this emergency message.
jordan holmes
Right, all right.
As slowly as possible.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The clip has started again, by the way.
alex jones
Some absolute information.
The reason this is so important is that I have studied the deep state for 30 years.
Been politically active for 25, as you know, been on air over 21 years.
I've really studied the deep state date.
I've written books on it, made films about it.
If you go back and read those books and watch those films made 15, 16, 17, 18, 20 years ago, it's like prescient.
It all came true.
Well, I wasn't prescient.
The globalists laid out their plan.
They have the Grammys and the Enemies and one big TV shows that are for the general public that has dumbed down disinformation.
But there are certain publications like Foreign Affairs, put out by the Washington Post, and basically a mirror of the Council on Foreign Relations, Foreign Affairs quarterly publication or bimonthly publication, they actually tell you what they're doing.
And in two different articles in Foreign Affairs that came out yesterday, they basically said the establishment is just looking at killing Trump.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
Now, this isn't some Hollywood producer saying it.
This isn't some singer or Hollywood person saying it.
jordan holmes
Nope.
unidentified
This is Jesus.
jordan holmes
Our Lord and the establishment.
Oh, damn it.
So close.
alex jones
Roll over or you're dead.
dan friesen
So here is where we finally understand one of the things that's been plaguing us for a really long time.
What the fuck is he talking about when he talks about white papers?
jordan holmes
Yes, that is exactly what I assumed it was like.
dan friesen
You assumed everyone knew.
jordan holmes
I assumed everybody knew.
Yeah.
So I didn't want to be the one to ask because that would be like, I would just assume newspapers?
Like, what's part of it?
What's red and black and the white papers?
I think that's how that old rhyme goes.
dan friesen
You got the funny papers and you got the white papers.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And in both of them, the globalists are speaking to us.
dan friesen
Indeed.
You ever read Heathcliff?
jordan holmes
No, but.
dan friesen
Chill for the Illuminati.
jordan holmes
Foxtrot?
dan friesen
Heathcliff lived in a fucking dumpster.
Not a dumpster.
He lived in a junkyard, right?
He was a junkyard cat.
Oh, that's a dystopian Agenda 21 future.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, and that's what Obama was trying to do: move us all and our cats into the junkyard.
dan friesen
They're trying to make my cat Celine eat cat bones.
I'm going to grind him up first.
So the papers are part of it.
And I'm not saying that whenever he says white papers, what he's talking about is this.
But one of the things he is referring to is he says foreign affairs, the journal he's actually talking about is called Foreign Policy.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it's a public policy.
jordan holmes
Foreign policy, I know that one.
I know that one exists.
The other one that he mentions.
dan friesen
Foreign Affairs by The Washington Post?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Wait.
Oh, that was by the Washington Post.
Oh, man.
dan friesen
No.
He's not.
He corrects himself later.
But he's talking about foreign policy.
And all that is a little bit of a denser news site.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not really.
But it's weird.
The council on foreign relations puts out what they're going to do.
It's where they get their dirt out.
jordan holmes
But did they say they were going to kill Trump?
Nope.
dan friesen
But we're going to get to it.
jordan holmes
How do you get to say, how do you get to say that?
Like, they put it out in public.
They just do it.
And what they're saying is they're going to kill Trump.
dan friesen
Well, here is where we're going to.
jordan holmes
Is he being literal or figurative?
dan friesen
I think he's being literal.
jordan holmes
I think he's being literal.
dan friesen
Here are the two conclusions that I've had to come to.
And you know how I was saying I hate him at the beginning of the show?
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
I have to temper that with, again, a little bit of pity.
jordan holmes
Deep-seated pity.
Manimal love.
dan friesen
I'm going to go with pity.
unidentified
Okay, all right.
All right.
dan friesen
Because I think that he lacks the ability to comprehend what he's reading sometimes.
jordan holmes
Oh.
Oh, boy, that gets us again.
That gets us back to the stupid, evil.
dan friesen
He's either completely lying about these sources he's citing or he doesn't understand what they're saying.
Or there's a third possibility that I think is more likely.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He might have a slight paranoid schizophrenia.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
It's all from us to diagnose somebody.
jordan holmes
That's a really good question.
dan friesen
But throughout the course of this episode, we're going to start to see him reading a ton of things into stuff that just literally isn't there.
jordan holmes
Holy shit.
dan friesen
So the foreign policy article that he's citing, first of all, doesn't say, in any way, suggest that people should kill Trump.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
That's probably a prosecutable offense, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I would say putting it in a major publication that you want to kill Trump.
dan friesen
It also doesn't say any of the things that he later says it says.
But also, the idea that there is a magazine called Foreign Policy that for 20 years, or however long it's been out in existence, has been putting the Illuminati's playbook out there into the public.
And for 20 years, Alex Jones has been on the air yelling about it.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, no, 30 years.
dan friesen
20 years on the air.
jordan holmes
He's been hitting on it.
20 years on the air, but he's been onto it for 30 years.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
How old is he?
dan friesen
He's like 42 or something like that 46.
jordan holmes
So, yeah.
So since the man, let's just call it the moment he popped a pube.
Yeah, exactly.
P2P.
He was so afraid of pubic hair, he immediately went directly to foreignpolicy.com.
dan friesen
Well, if you listen to him tell stories about his childhood, I think his dad might have had some of that paranoia in him, too.
jordan holmes
Really?
I don't know.
Because even if we go back to our Y2K episode, he was super paranoid.
That was full-on lunacy, right?
unidentified
I think.
jordan holmes
You have to have had like you would have had a psychotic break.
dan friesen
I think he is.
jordan holmes
Right now.
I think we're finally watching the full-on break from reality.
dan friesen
I think as more reality starts to seep in and more people like Flynn end up getting indicted.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Because Flynn very well might be going to prison.
jordan holmes
He should.
dan friesen
He should.
There's strong indications he's straight up lied to the FBI.
jordan holmes
No, there's indications.
They're not strong indications.
They're actual, they're factual.
dan friesen
We can say that from information that we have heard from sources we've decided to trust in the media.
jordan holmes
You know what?
That's a really good point because a lot of the information, a lot of the information that we are relying on is released by the intelligence community.
Global blessed.
And they are and have never been trustworthy.
dan friesen
You have to take things with a grain of salt.
But it doesn't look good.
jordan holmes
It does have that ring of because Trump and Flynn talk shit about the intelligence community that they're like, okay, fine.
dan friesen
Goes back to the code of the street.
Talk shit, get hit.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then that, but that also makes you think about all of the shit that Barack did that seemed so out of character for what he really believed, like what you would imagine he did.
Maybe, you know, he seemed like a guy with compassion and who, you know, wouldn't want to go crazy town on whistleblowers and Yemen, you know, all of those things.
So you start to see all of this shit come out and how quickly these guys are being destroyed.
unidentified
And you're like, wonder what they had on Barack.
dan friesen
Huh.
jordan holmes
Because I bet they had something.
dan friesen
Yeah, that he, his Frank Marshall Davis was his dad.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
His mom was a CIA pornographer.
unidentified
That's true.
dan friesen
He was made in a test tube.
unidentified
All true.
dan friesen
He was a gay gentleman and a crack addict who has a transgendered wife.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
These are all theories that Alex has pitched.
jordan holmes
What if he just really was a secret Muslim?
dan friesen
That's it.
jordan holmes
That's it.
dan friesen
Well, remember how pissed off people were when he smoked?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
God, remember when we were mad at smoking?
Remember when we were mad at smoking instead of light treason?
dan friesen
Anyway, weren't those the days?
Speaking of that light treason.
jordan holmes
Somehow we became Archie bunker here, just sitting in the occupied Illinois bunker.
dan friesen
Just drinking Boone's farm.
jordan holmes
Because we don't deserve nice things.
dan friesen
No.
So this next clip, he gets into the situation with Flynn and his interpretation of it.
And when he's done, we can see if we agree.
unidentified
All right.
alex jones
I'm going to get into General Flynn, but of course, ladies and gentlemen, his resignation is only going to put blood in the water now.
dan friesen
True.
alex jones
CNN Flynn's resignation doesn't end controversy surrounding White House.
General Flynn led the movement with other military leaders to say no to backing al-Qaeda and then ISIS and al-Nasra in Syria and the killing of hundreds of thousands of people.
It was a great moral moment for our military and our intelligence agencies.
They finally hit bottom and decided to not follow criminal orders that they've been following for decades.
Follow.
A real common Jesus moment.
And so Trump knows about all this, brought in Flynn.
They've released the communiques that Flynn supposedly made, which were not secret.
He's the national security advisor in waiting of the elected president at that time, December 15th, who was the president-elect setting up world leaders, working around the clock for the new agenda.
jordan holmes
Against the leadership.
alex jones
And they've released the CIA State Department transcripts of what was said.
The Russian ambassador, who he's supposed to talk to.
That's what the president's national security advisor does.
Well, I'm not going to get into sanctions with you, but you know the president wants to open things up and wants to have a clean slate.
So that's he repeated what Trump had said at press conferences and tweets.
He said the president's policy.
The president can meet with the Russians.
The president can sign treaties.
Then we see him Congress ratifies.
The president, we elected him.
He's not a goddamn Russian spy when he talks to the Russians.
jordan holmes
That sounds like exactly what a Russian spy would say.
dan friesen
But he's also conflating with the truth.
jordan holmes
Well, you can't, you're not president until you're president.
dan friesen
So that's still intermediaries are citizens until you're in office and they're sworn into their position.
He's a private citizen talking to the Russian ambassador.
And Alex just straight up lied.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he did just straight up lie.
dan friesen
He said that the communiques have been released.
They haven't.
As of this recording, they absolutely haven't.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
But from sources who have listened to them, they all say that he was very explicit talking about sanctions.
One source even said it is impossible that he wouldn't remember talking about it.
The entire phone call was about it.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
The second fly is that someone was tapping Flynn's phone and spying on him.
They were tapping the Russians' phones.
jordan holmes
No, I actually, no, they actually have always monitored those.
That's the thing that came out that I think was underreported.
dan friesen
But they are supposed to be listening to the Russians.
jordan holmes
But they're not.
dan friesen
Why wouldn't they be?
jordan holmes
They're listening to us.
They're listening to the American communications.
dan friesen
I hope they're listening to this podcast.
jordan holmes
That would be interesting.
dan friesen
Get us some ratings.
jordan holmes
We're big at the CIA.
dan friesen
Spies start listening.
That's a download.
jordan holmes
That is a download.
That's right.
That's right.
dan friesen
Sorry, I interrupted that.
jordan holmes
No, they are listening to American communiques as well.
Right.
dan friesen
You have to, because that doesn't necessarily have to be true that it was some sneaky spying on Flynn thing.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
It's very plausible that they were spying on these Russians.
jordan holmes
Well, it's more plausible that they just collected all of those.
Like, the stories that you read are they heard, they saw that Russia wasn't retaliating, which seems so out of character for them.
And they were surprised by that to the point where they were just like, oh, well, let's just go dig back through this length of time to see what may have done.
dan friesen
To see who was communicating with Thailand Russians.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And that's whenever they caught up on those tapes on those communiques.
dan friesen
Now, the interesting thing about no.
That's how I imagine it.
jordan holmes
No, they were not listening in real time.
Real to real time.
Yeah, I was going to say, you're talking about a Cold War spy movie, right?
dan friesen
I'm imagining that.
He's like, FBI agents, and they're like, keep him on the phone.
jordan holmes
Keep him on the phone.
We have to have him on the phone for 60 seconds, otherwise, we won't get a trace.
dan friesen
Yeah, we've got his location pinned out.
Yeah, exactly.
That's kind of where.
Okay, you're right.
My fantasy is more fun.
jordan holmes
It is more fun.
It's way more fun.
dan friesen
Probably an act.
jordan holmes
I wish we still lived in that world.
Yeah.
No.
What was I?
The Logan Act, they were like, the more you read about it, the more they're like, this is obscure, and nobody has been prosecuted under the corner.
dan friesen
Well, there was one guy, right?
In 1790-something.
jordan holmes
I'm going to assume it was Logan.
Yeah.
The new movie coming out.
unidentified
We've got to prosecute that movie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we've got to prosecute that movie.
dan friesen
Put it to bed.
jordan holmes
But I can't believe that it's never happened in that length of time.
Sure.
It has to have.
There has to have been those civilians that have gone outside of the government and negotiated some shit.
dan friesen
Almost certainly.
jordan holmes
I don't think anybody could have imagined it would be this utterly and completely blatant.
dan friesen
It's pretty obvious.
jordan holmes
Like, all of the laws they're breaking are ones that people don't even think about because it seems so stupid to break those laws the way that they're doing it.
dan friesen
Brazenly.
jordan holmes
Brazenly.
dan friesen
And the fact that the phone calls line up with when Trump was like, very smart of Vladimir Putin not to retaliate.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's no way Trump doesn't know about this.
It's incredibly who insinuates that Trump doesn't know about it is fucking dumb at this point.
dan friesen
But I do agree with Alex on one point that is him resigning is going to just put more blood in the water.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And if I were Trump, I might have not allowed him to resign.
jordan holmes
Ooh, man, that's a really good, that's a really good question.
dan friesen
It's kind of showing ass a little bit and showing that you're vulnerable.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's.
Well, but he is vulnerable.
dan friesen
But he doesn't want to give that perception.
And he's not playing a good game cards here.
jordan holmes
Oh, shocker.
Somebody who's never had to play this game of cards is bad at it.
dan friesen
There's a lot of tells going around.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And someone's spying on his head.
jordan holmes
No, it seems like they are just waiting.
Like, the Republican Congress is just trying to get through as much bullshit as they can in as short a period of time as possible.
dan friesen
They know it's a fire sale.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So they're, I mean, because I mean, how can he not?
dan friesen
It's not not going to happen.
jordan holmes
How can he not?
He has to be impeached.
dan friesen
And that's just based on what's true now.
Imagine what will happen within the next month.
It's been a month.
jordan holmes
No.
And it is another thing where I do absolutely believe that James Comey should be arrested and prosecuted for what he's done.
dan friesen
I've heard some interesting theories about him that I can't fully get into just because I couldn't articulate them well.
But I've read some interesting write-ups that suggest that he might be not as bad a dude as it appears.
unidentified
Interesting.
dan friesen
I'm not sure about this, and I don't want to vouch for that because on the surface it looks bad.
jordan holmes
It seems like he basically ruined America almost by himself.
alex jones
Right.
dan friesen
But did you.
Some theories that I've read, and again, this is unsubstantiated, but pretty compelling arguments.
jordan holmes
The North Carolina 18-year-old Russian hacker one.
dan friesen
That's it.
jordan holmes
That's the one?
Yeah.
I strongly recommend you guys look up the North Carolina Russian hacker who basically, like, the theory is he catfished Anthony Weiner as a 16-year-old girl.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That was then the excuse that the FBI needed because it was a crime to look into his laptop.
And that's whenever somebody planted Hillary's emails in there.
dan friesen
Well, they had already planted them there.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
But yeah, that was the thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Which is, it seems like the most successful Rube Goldberg spy machine there's ever been.
dan friesen
If you're using Occam's razor, it's not the super like it's not the most believable thing, but there's some pieces of it that kind of, you know, they make you think a little.
jordan holmes
Well, there's that famous quote from that one guy.
Yes.
No, you're raising your hand.
I call on Dan Friesen.
dan friesen
Lest I end up sounding like Alex himself, espousing crazy nonsense.
Okay.
Let me say these are interesting ideas, but I don't know if they're true.
jordan holmes
Well, that's what I was saying.
There's that old quote where it's like, I won't blame conspiracy whenever ignorance and incompetence are options.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Speaking of ignorance.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Alex wants to tell you, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Me?
dan friesen
He wants to tell you specifically.
jordan holmes
Does he name me?
dan friesen
Yep, he does.
jordan holmes
Jordan Holmes from Knowledge Fight, the podcast, who are tools of the globalists.
dan friesen
I would be so mad if you got a shout-out.
jordan holmes
Well, clearly, because I'm the least dangerous between the two of us.
dan friesen
Every single time Alex Jones on his show says, I'll tell you what the problem is.
I'm so convinced he's also.
jordan holmes
So you're basically as much a narcissist as Trump is at this point.
It's just getting close.
Getting close.
dan friesen
In the little flickers.
jordan holmes
Little flickers.
dan friesen
We have so many clips.
We've got to get to these.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
He wants to tell you about what's really going on in the world.
jordan holmes
Let's do this.
alex jones
So let me explain what's really going on here.
The Machiavellians, the globalists, think that if you don't think evil and backstabbing and twisted and all about global domination, you're weak-minded.
No, we can think Machiavelli.
We know it's not good for humanity, and humanity's already in so much trouble and already has so many crises that we really need to try to work with people and watch them very, very closely, trust but verify, and have an open hand and say, let's have real detente.
Let's build an infrastructure.
Let's build a space program.
Let's build advanced technologies.
Let's develop life extension, which they've already got.
Let's deploy that.
Let's launch the space colonies.
Let's do it all.
jordan holmes
Let's launch the space colonies.
alex jones
That's not a wimpy, you know, silly worldview.
Oh, you're silly.
Everybody's evil.
That won't work.
Bullshit.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan holmes
He usually doesn't like to use profanity.
dan friesen
He's said two swears already.
Bullshit, and he's not a goddamn Russian spy.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is very out of character for us.
jordan holmes
This is really out of character.
dan friesen
But again, it's because it's not really.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he's really getting hammered.
dan friesen
And you can see it in his face.
He is pissed off.
Now, granted, there's still a little bit of acting going on and what have you.
But what's fun about that clip is he's like...
jordan holmes
This sounds way more genuine than...
Like, that bullshit he just dropped had a lot of heart behind it.
dan friesen
It's almost like he couldn't stop it from coming out.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I think that, again, this is why we're talking about this clip as opposed to the regular show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It really feels like he means more of the stuff he's saying here.
jordan holmes
This sounds very real.
dan friesen
So now we're going to get back to that foreign policy article.
Again, he calls it foreign affairs, and he will straighten that out, I promise.
unidentified
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
But he wants to talk about that, but he gets kind of sidetracked because he doesn't really know the details about that article.
alex jones
But here's the key: Paul Watson links to the Foreign Affairs particular article I'm talking about.
There's another one: The Criminal Is Starting to Worry About Trump.
I'm going to read these articles in entirety on air today.
In fact, I almost get distracted by my guests.
jordan holmes
Does he?
alex jones
I have great guests that come on, but I may just clean the slate of guests today because I need to read all this because this is from He does not read all of it.
The mouth of Lucifer.
They say they're at Foreign Affairs, which again is only for globalists.
They put it out, only the establishment reads it because they think you're too dumb to go read it.
And they're like, oh, we're battling the war on truth.
Get your truth here.
But now.
dan friesen
So we always come back to this.
Whatever he says someone else is doing is what he's doing.
alex jones
Yes.
dan friesen
I've come to realize that this idea that he has about the globalists putting all this stuff out and they know that you're too dumb to go read it.
That's him talking about his listeners reading the sources he talks about.
unidentified
Ooh.
dan friesen
He's projecting his own feeling of his audience being dumb.
I mean, it has to be.
The articles that he cites contradict what he's saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Consistently.
jordan holmes
So he's.
Ooh, that's a really good.
That's a really good point.
dan friesen
There's almost like.
jordan holmes
Do you think it's conscious or unconscious?
You think it's a complete unconscious, like somehow the truth is trying to get out in some way.
dan friesen
This goes back to, I think, that the truth about him is one part lie, one part, maybe a little bit bigger part paranoia.
Right.
And then a huge part lack of reading.
Too much whiskey.
Well, yeah.
Lack of reading comprehension.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Maybe the Texas public schools didn't do him a great service.
jordan holmes
See, now I want to know more about his personal life to see if there are full-on paranoid schizophrenic things going on because that seems really scary to think about.
dan friesen
I've tried to find biographies about him or anything about his life.
jordan holmes
It seems too private.
dan friesen
There's really not a ton about his early life, but you can find some sources.
And actually, there's an episode of The Dollop about Jade Helm.
jordan holmes
Oh, yes.
dan friesen
Where they talk about his early life a little bit.
They dug up some sources.
And one of the things they talk about is how when he was in high school, he was convinced that people selling drugs to the kids were working, they were like entrapping kids that worked for the school.
jordan holmes
So he really, then, yeah, when he said 30 years, he really does mean that.
He has been that guy for like 30 years.
dan friesen
He had those same.
But that's also based on his self-reporting of himself when he was younger.
jordan holmes
True.
dan friesen
So if you believe him, if you believe him, he did have those paranoid sort of ideations when he was young.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Or it could just be full of shit.
Yeah.
I'm just now you like the moment you brought that up.
I'm kind of concerned.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because that changes this show from laughing at a showman to laughing at a mentally ill person who needs help.
dan friesen
Well, but the problem is...
jordan holmes
He's a great showman.
dan friesen
He's a great showman, and his entire premise is anti-him getting help.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And he's such a damaging, awful part of our culture that we must laugh at him.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's true.
dan friesen
Even if he's mentally ill, we can't help him.
jordan holmes
Okay, now.
Here is my theory based on what he just said for why the print industry is dying.
It's only for globalists.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There can't be that many of them.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Why would you publish so many papers if it's only for globalists?
dan friesen
Oh, man, we're going to learn something else about globalists that's really tragic at the end of this episode, too.
jordan holmes
Ooh, okay.
unidentified
All right.
jordan holmes
Let's get back into it.
dan friesen
Let's finish this clip.
alex jones
They realize the lies don't work, and so I see this in history only when they're about to execute really horrible devastation.
Starting huge wars.
You name it.
Setting a new cough in D.C., anything.
Talking about time to kill Trump.
I mean, Obama has gotten a bunker.
This is in the news.
Two miles from the White House and is recruiting Masoros, an army for a Bolshevik-style revolution.
dan friesen
That's not true.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
It's not in the news.
jordan holmes
What news would have that on there without?
dan friesen
There's an article on Breitbart.
jordan holmes
Oh, so that is in the news then.
By the very barest of definitions, that's in the news.
dan friesen
There's a very sensational article on Breitbart that links to an article in the New York Post, and that's the only source on it.
And I have pulled it up and read it.
There's no real evidence that he's getting a militarized bunker.
jordan holmes
And recruiting an army.
dan friesen
Well, in the article.
jordan holmes
Constitutional scholar is recruiting an army.
dan friesen
In the article, the only relevant citations that are made about Obama at all are one hyperlinked clip, or I'm sorry, link that is about Obama saying he was heartened by anti-Trump protests.
And the sentence goes, when former President Barack Obama said he was heartened by anti-Trump protests, he was sending a message of approval to his troops.
Troops?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Obama has an army of agitators numbering more than 30,000 who will fight his Republican successor at every turn of his historic presidency.
Already showing a little bit of bias.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
There's no citation for this 30,000 number or that they're shock troops.
Yeah.
This is absurd.
This is like propaganda.
jordan holmes
Give me an idea of what, one, the hiring process would be like.
dan friesen
Well, they put out stuff on back page.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
No, what it is all about is that Obama is working with that organization, organizing for action, which is, you know, community organizing.
jordan holmes
I like how we're still on Obama is their big boogeyman.
dan friesen
Well, it has to be.
jordan holmes
He's fucking windsurfing in the middle of nowhere right now.
And they're like, oh, he's orchestrating all of these Trump protests.
dan friesen
30,000 agitators.
jordan holmes
Yeah, definitely not the millions and millions of people pissed off about how awful he's being right now.
unidentified
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
It's Obama and 30,000 people.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So that claims all of them named Hussein.
And that claim that he's working with Soros and they got this bunker and they got an army of Bolsheviks.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
That's full-on crazy.
dan friesen
The only way you can take that as truth is if you read the Breitbart article that has no sourcing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So like, okay, go ahead and read that.
It's not news.
It's absolutely not verified.
It's not sourced.
jordan holmes
It is out there in the open, though.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
They're just putting it out there in the open.
dan friesen
It's in a blog.
Basically.
jordan holmes
You're not smart enough to see that that's the only way globalists communicate with each other is on Breitbart news articles.
dan friesen
This isn't even in foreign policy.
jordan holmes
That's right.
dan friesen
It would have to be if that's how the globalists interact with each other.
It's got to be like, oh, hey, guys, get excited.
Obama's starting this bunker up.
jordan holmes
But they have like an ad ticket show.
They have a secret foreign policy newspaper that they send out only to each other.
dan friesen
Anyway, this clip is mostly about the fear.
alex jones
I woke up.
I've never.
Here's what's happening right now.
You can see it intellectually.
You can also feel it.
There is a there was a coup over America under globalism by stealth.
It was a counter-coup with Trump.
They're launching a counter-counter coup right now, and there's incredible things going on right now.
This is an amazing time to be alive.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
alex jones
And I feel sorry for people that don't have the historical bravitas or understanding, even know what they're dealing with or what they're facing or what they're looking at.
jordan holmes
I kind of do, too.
alex jones
But when they come out in these articles and they say everything I've said, but from their perspective, it's frightening.
Few things frighten me.
But to have this much confirmation of my analysis of the enemy operation, which came from my analysis, and to realize Trump's synced up, not because he's even listening to me, but because he gets it.
He's smart.
jordan holmes
He gets it.
alex jones
He knew this before I was born.
jordan holmes
Nope.
alex jones
I know the inside baseball.
No, you don't.
This is a long fight.
jordan holmes
It is.
alex jones
And I look at all the sad, dumbed-down people that have been made slaves of this, and they don't know how hard good people are fighting to try to give them freedom.
It's just painful.
dan friesen
I think he's talking about us.
jordan holmes
I think he is.
alex jones
It's almost too much to actually handle.
And to see these snakes go, okay, we're not going to lie anymore.
Trump wants America and the world to be free.
Trump wants America to take over the whole global system that we stole and that America built.
And he wants this big, super powerful system.
unidentified
Wait, what?
alex jones
And he wants to actually empower humanity, and we're not going to let him.
And the Russians don't want that either because they want their own power.
And like they're devilishly talking to the devil and the Russians going, Trump's going to break all of it.
He's going to bring it all down.
Join us against Trump.
This is some sick stuff, man.
This is sick.
This is sick.
This is the devil talking.
It's not even that article.
There's a bunch of them.
I read like four of them last night.
dan friesen
He's trying to say that that's what the article is saying.
jordan holmes
So now he's saying that the Russians are gearing up with the anti-Trump people?
dan friesen
No, he's saying that the globalists, through this foreign policy article, are trying to say to the Russians, hey guys, come on, come join us.
jordan holmes
Oh, join our side against Trump.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Which is where we get into the.
jordan holmes
And that's where the counter-counter-coup is happening.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Because the original counter-coup was when the Russians were on his side.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
But the first coup was.
dan friesen
You're so wrong.
jordan holmes
How many coups are we going through?
I'm sorry.
This Russian nesting doll of coups.
dan friesen
Chi-Com nesting dollars.
jordan holmes
Good point.
Good point.
unidentified
My bad.
jordan holmes
My bad.
Chi-Com nesting doll of coups.
And I mean, C-O-O-Z, if you know what it is.
dan friesen
We're going to get a beer cooler.
We're going to get a Chi-Com nesting doll of coups.
jordan holmes
Well, we're going to get a counter-counter, counter-beer-koozy.
dan friesen
God, we've got so many great products.
Come see them at our knowledgefightstore.com.
So, no, the coup, the original coup was a soft coup that was done by Hillary Clinton and George Soros and Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.
jordan holmes
To get them, to get her the presidency.
Yes.
Okay.
dan friesen
And then we can flood America with jihadis and we'll have you and sell us out to the ChiComs.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
That was the original coup.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And then behind the scenes, there was another soft coup that was done by people who were fed up in the intelligence communities working with Russia.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But we don't want to talk about that part about it.
Alex does let it slip sometimes.
The Russians were kind of working on it.
So they, these great patriots within the intelligence community, were the ones who leaked all those emails to WikiLeaks and what have you.
jordan holmes
And that was the counter-coup.
dan friesen
That's the counter-coup.
jordan holmes
That was the original counter-coup.
dan friesen
Now, this is the narrative that's spouted by Roger Stone and Steve Pieczenik, whenever they come on the show.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
They pitch the counter-coup narrative.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Then the counter-counter-coup, I suppose, is the globalists fight back.
I don't know.
They can't have a counter-counter-counter-counter-coup.
jordan holmes
I mean, obviously, that's what's coming next.
dan friesen
It has to be.
jordan holmes
There has to be.
Oh, man, it's turtles all the way down.
That's what it is.
dan friesen
If there's a coup.
jordan holmes
If there's a coup.
dan friesen
I reject that argument.
jordan holmes
Doesn't there have to be, like...
dan friesen
I reject even the first coup as an argument.
jordan holmes
But...
dan friesen
But if there's a coup and you're saying that there's a counter-coup.
jordan holmes
I've never heard the word coup before this many times in a row.
dan friesen
But if there's a counter-coup and you're arguing that, you can't then be surprised when there's a counter-counter coup.
jordan holmes
That's just a battle.
dan friesen
That's just responding.
unidentified
So, yeah.
jordan holmes
There hasn't been one coup yet.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
We're just on the road to coup.
Like a buddy picture.
Starring being Crosby.
It's so crazy.
dan friesen
So, yeah, that, you know, Alex, first of all, takes a lot to get him scared.
He's scared because he's reading way more devilish things into this article.
And I want to say very clearly, I've read this article four or five times now.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I've read it over, and there's a couple things that I think you could really seriously misrepresent.
And I think he does that.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
But it's not in any way saying the things that he's going to say.
And once he starts to get into more of the substance of it, I'll explain and describe what the article is actually about.
But for now, he wants to talk a little bit about the.
He's going to talk a little bit more about the article.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Not really get into the details yet because he gets a little bit distracted again.
Kind of always gets distracted.
jordan holmes
Which with, I mean, which dimension is he distracted with this 17th.
17th.
dan friesen
But this is where.
jordan holmes
They're metastasizing.
unidentified
That's a counter-counter dimension right there.
dan friesen
This clip is where he realizes that the name of the article or the journal isn't foreign affairs.
And he corrects himself.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But in doing so, ends up having a philosophical discourse with himself about the nature of honesty.
jordan holmes
That is fucking fantastic.
I can't wait to listen.
alex jones
Russian insiders fear Washington establishment will assassinate Trump.
dan friesen
He says that as if it's the article's title.
It's not.
That's the title of the article on InfoWars that Paul Joseph Watson wrote.
Which uses the article in foreign policy.
jordan holmes
As a reference.
dan friesen
But it never says that anywhere inside the article.
jordan holmes
Not once.
dan friesen
So when he says the name of the article on InfoWars, it sounds way worse than the actual article because they're a propaganda outfit.
Now keep in mind that that is just literally a weak lie.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Now we'll get to the honesty treaties.
alex jones
I say foreign affairs.
It's foreign policy, but it's I always tell the truth even when I make a mistake.
Because foreign policy is foreign affairs articles in the Washington Post public.
So it is foreign affairs in the CFR, but foreign policy.
And we've hit the Zeitgeist so hard that you can't even tell lies even when you're not trying to tell a lie, but your brain takes the information and translates it out true.
Because they admit this is the Council on Foreign Relations.
They just don't want that stigma.
So they call it foreign policy instead of foreign affairs.
I'm calling it foreign affairs because it is foreign affairs.
I'm not just bragging.
It's just compare that to the average person who's totally unconscious.
And people used to, everybody used to be like me 100 years ago.
This is scary, folks.
Our spirits are being stolen.
jordan holmes
There's a lot there.
That was fucking crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a lot there.
jordan holmes
That's uh go back, play that again like halfway through.
Okay, go back to about halfway through.
alex jones
Is that guy so hard that you like can't even tell lies even when you're not trying to tell a lie?
But your brain takes the information and translates it out true because they admit this is the Council on Foreign Relations.
They used to want that stigma, so they call it foreign policy instead of foreign affairs.
I'm calling it foreign affairs because it is foreign affairs.
It's dragging.
It's just compare that to the average person who's totally unconscious.
And people used to, everybody used to be like me 100 years ago.
He could have just scary, folks.
Our spirits are being stolen.
jordan holmes
All he had to do was say, oops, I made a mistake.
dan friesen
1,000%.
jordan holmes
All he had to do.
That spiraled into some kind of weird, I have to be always right.
Even though I made a mistake, what I really did was had a Freudian slip, but of the truth.
dan friesen
Which, like, at the beginning, when I was saying that he says it's foreign affairs, but it's actually foreign policy.
I wasn't saying that to come down on him.
I was just saying that in the interest of being fully informational.
jordan holmes
And now you can come down on him because that is.
dan friesen
But I would never come down on him for that.
I mean, on our last episode, two episodes back, I said fucking Nigel McGinnis 20 times when it was Gavin McGinnis.
I said no idea.
I don't remember his name.
I don't know about a guy who defends blackface.
jordan holmes
Hey, do you know what you just did right there?
You admitted you made a mistake, and then we're going to move on.
I did, nobody judges you.
dan friesen
It's super easy to make a slip of the tongue.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
He could have easily done that.
jordan holmes
He could have just said that.
unidentified
But you know what?
dan friesen
I was being truthful, even when I wasn't, because Nigel McGinnis is a pro wrestler.
jordan holmes
I don't think that is fucking crazy.
dan friesen
100 years ago, everyone used to be like me.
jordan holmes
Was he there?
Also, what does that mean?
Wait, wait, wait, 100 years ago, everybody used to be like him.
What does that mean?
dan friesen
I don't know, but he might know that because of ancestral memories.
Oh, shit.
Live on through your descendants.
jordan holmes
If he really does have a narrative through line throughout everything he believes in such a way as like if you just see the whole picture, like if we if we do like a yeah, if we zodiac killer the guy searching for the zodiac and we have the pins and we use the string to tie him up together, that's coming and it does make sense.
dan friesen
That's coming, by the way.
jordan holmes
That would be amazing.
dan friesen
I'm going to take down those pictures on the wall behind you, and we're going to straight up just turn this into one of them.
jordan holmes
And then you're going to leave him down forever, like our friend John Rapaport.
dan friesen
And then I'm just going to start peeing in all these empty wine bottles.
Never leave my room.
jordan holmes
And that's how Trump dies.
So here he gets ammonia fumes.
dan friesen
He finally gets into a little bit more about the article, but still doesn't really get into it.
alex jones
And you read this stuff, and it's just like, okay, Trump really is a real revolution and wants to empower poor people, and he is going to build factories in the black areas.
And you know what, Russia?
You really want to deal with America that powerful?
Join us.
Come on, we'll share it with you.
Just help it, you know.
Man, you talk about and telling Russia, we're going to kill him.
We're going to kill him.
They even announce it, but the one lie they tell is their biggest truth.
They say in two different articles I read, they go, Putin's canceled the Bolshevik Revolution celebration.
And they say he did that because he's afraid of revolutions.
No, he's part of the revolution of bringing Christianity back.
Putin's real, and they're trying to mop up communism and the old hardliners in their government right now.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go ahead and is there anybody more of an old hardliner than Putin himself?
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
He is the single most hardliner there.
Also, he came up with an amazing Zen Cohen right there, which is the one lie they're telling is actually the truth.
I have that is that is the sound of one lie clapping.
That's amazing.
dan friesen
I have the article here.
In 2016, a senior Russian official explained to a group of visiting foreigners why the government had decided not to celebrate the upcoming 100th anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution.
Yes, it was a turning point in Russian history, he argued.
And yes, President Vladimir Putin sees today's Russia as a successor to both the Tsars and the Bolsheviks.
but celebrating a revolution would send the wrong message to society.
The Kremlin today...
unidentified
Ha ha!
dan friesen
Ha ha ha!
The Kremlin.
jordan holmes
The Kremlin, very telling quote.
dan friesen
The Kremlin today is staunchly opposed to regime change, the visitors were told, and thus skittish about eulogizing 1917.
It plans to use the centenary, centenary, centenary.
There you go.
Instead, to draw attention to the catastrophic consequences of resorting to revolution to solve social and political problems.
That is the what he's taking that part from.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
But they are staunchly opposed to regime change, especially when it comes to Russian regime change.
dan friesen
Right.
And also, yeah.
So, but you see the difference between the text and what his interpretation is?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
The other stuff about.
jordan holmes
But you can never make the subtext text.
dan friesen
No.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
The other stuff.
jordan holmes
You always keep it hidden between the lines.
dan friesen
Of course, especially if you're a goddamn globalist.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
That's how you communicate with each other.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
It's all.
Have you tried circling the first letter of every word in one of those sentences and then putting it together and then seeing what that says?
dan friesen
You know what I did do?
I did put rice wine vinegar on my phone to see if anything comes up out of the text.
So far, nothing.
jordan holmes
You threw glitter to see if the invisible ink stuck to it.
dan friesen
My phone is not operating very well.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
Anyway, this clip goes on a little bit more.
jordan holmes
You know why?
Globalists.
dan friesen
This clip gets a little bit more religious.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And but they spit it and go, oh, because he's afraid of revolution.
No, he said the Bolshevik revolution was bad.
Communism was bad.
He's actually saying it.
He's doing it.
jordan holmes
He didn't say that.
alex jones
He's announcing, we want God.
We want sovereignty.
Russia's saying we want Christ Providence.
Just like Trump did by example January 20th.
This is huge.
dan friesen
None of that was in the article.
jordan holmes
Did not say any of that.
unidentified
None of it.
jordan holmes
Is there any evidence other than how much Putin hates gay people that he is in any way like a Christian?
I don't know.
Does he attend a Russian Orthodox church?
Like, what are we talking about here?
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
I've never really been too interested in the religious life.
jordan holmes
He doesn't have to wear a shirt when he goes to church.
dan friesen
It would be disrespectful not to, I think.
jordan holmes
It would be disrespectful to ask Putin to wear a shirt.
dan friesen
He would take it as a sign of disrespect for sure.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So who wins a fistfight between Putin and God and Christ?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Christ looked ripped.
dan friesen
Yeah, he did.
He's just out there.
And as Alex was bringing up on a later show, I don't have the clip of this, but he was talking about how when Christ went in with the money changers, he beat their ass.
He wanted to make a good point out of it.
Christ could fight if he wanted to.
jordan holmes
That is such a weird story.
Whatever.
It's like Christ, the bringer of peace and love, goes into the temple and is like, fuck this shit, Hulks out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He was making the argument that the reason that Christ got mad about that was because they were using different types of currency in order to bilk people out of money.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds about right.
dan friesen
That's what he was mad about, not the fact that they were bringing commerce into the church or whatever.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you look at the megachurches we have now, you can't be mad about a Starbucks being in your church.
dan friesen
No, but he has varying interpretations of what Christ was actually mad about in that story.
But then his big point is that boom.
unidentified
That is fought.
jordan holmes
I've never thought about how out of character that is for Jesus.
Couldn't he have just talked to him?
dan friesen
It is a little weird, but there's a whole bunch of stuff if you look into the child gospels and stuff.
He killed his friend and stuff.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
Brought him back to life, though.
jordan holmes
He did.
That's a weird one.
That's a real weird one.
A kid bumped into him, and so he's like, you're fucking dead.
Yeah, and then his parents were like, dude, come on, don't kill him.
And he was like, fine, and brings him back to life.
Yeah, that's crazy.
dan friesen
That's why it's not in the Bible.
jordan holmes
That's my favorite verse of the Bible, though.
dan friesen
It's not bad.
So, hey, you know, we're making a lot of jokes about the globalists, but we really should take them seriously because they're up to no good.
alex jones
They're killing the family right now.
They're putting out psychological warfare systems that are going to end us.
And humanity at the final cliff of cultural and spiritual death, the Russians, America, the Japanese, the Brazilians, the Italians, people all over are getting going, I don't want to do this.
I don't want to die.
I don't want to not have kids.
I don't want to give over myself because Elon Musk says merge with machines or die.
And the globalists are all announcing their crap.
You're not able to have kids in the future unless you go to the government and have some composite engineered humanoid because everybody's going to be sterile.
I told you that 10 years ago.
Now they're announcing it.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's a bad idea.
alex jones
It's pure evil.
jordan holmes
I kind of would be cool with that plan for childbirth.
dan friesen
All right, we're going to have a slight disagreement there.
I mean, you might be able to eliminate all sorts of very tragic diseases and stuff like that.
But there's also an argument to be made that variety is the spice of life.
And much like you were talking about on the last episode, even some mental illnesses are strengths.
jordan holmes
I agree, but wouldn't that be kind of fun?
dan friesen
It would be interesting.
jordan holmes
That's a really interesting world.
dan friesen
It would be fun in a book.
But Elon Musk doesn't say that the author.
jordan holmes
I don't know why he brought up Elon Musk.
dan friesen
He's also advising Trump.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Who is also very much against his workers unionizing?
Elon Musk is not some kind of globalist hero here.
dan friesen
No, but he's the closest thing that Alex knows to a futurist.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And so he's using him.
And there was an article that had come out recently where Elon Musk was talking about how because of the rapidity and the speed that technology is evolving in, AI merging with humanity might be a necessary piece of humans keeping up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he's talking about that as well.
jordan holmes
Otherwise, we're going to be replaced.
dan friesen
He's talking about that as sort of a just sort of a hypothetical thing and something that may be coming down the line with the nature of how our technology works.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't think I'd be too far against that either.
dan friesen
But he's not saying merge with machines or die.
He's just saying that we might end up becoming cyborgs.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I am officially saying it here.
Merge with machines or die.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
That's my.
But the list of countries that he pulled out of his ass were my favorite random countries.
dan friesen
Which ones were those?
jordan holmes
It was Russia, America, Japan, Brazil, Italy.
Like, those are his world superpowers right there.
dan friesen
Well, because Italy is pulling, like, they're the next country that wants to pull out of the EU.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I thought Spain was the next country that wanted to pull out.
dan friesen
He talks about them a little bit too.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But Italy is one of the big examples he uses of.
jordan holmes
So it's always on his mind.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Much like Georgia.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Okay.
And Georgia is on my mind.
Anton Putin's mind is always going to be a good idea.
That's true.
jordan holmes
That's true.
It's next on that list.
dan friesen
It's a good thing that nationalism never led to fascism in Italy.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I mean, I'm glad that we have a great track record of never repeating the same shit that happened exactly 70 years ago every 70 years.
dan friesen
I don't know what's going on in Brazil, but I don't know.
jordan holmes
It's not good.
Brazil is a tirefire.
Oh, it's bad.
Somehow their government is worse and more corrupt than ours.
dan friesen
They basically have a kidnapping-based economy.
jordan holmes
They do.
Well, and that's how their government changed was actually with a real coup.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Was it a counter-coup or a counter-counter?
jordan holmes
It was no, it was just one.
Well, unless you count the first coup as getting rid of the military dictatorship.
dan friesen
Yep, that was the first coup.
jordan holmes
That was the first coup.
Then the counter coup is white people doing what we do best.
dan friesen
Counter coup.
jordan holmes
Taking our shit back.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
Counter coup.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this next clip, Jordan, this next one, you might be thinking, like, he's painting a really bleak picture of the world and shit's pretty bad.
jordan holmes
And he sounds really depressed about it.
dan friesen
But Alex Jones is not a man to mire in the depressiveness.
He's a man who wants to come at you with some solutions.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He's got a solution for you.
jordan holmes
Do you know what that I respect that a lot because most Republicans do not go that far?
Well, even the mainstream one, like they're trying to.
dan friesen
Wait till you hear his solution.
jordan holmes
That's not the point.
At least he's got an idea.
Like they're saying they want to get rid of Obamacare and nobody has come up with even close to an idea.
dan friesen
Repeal and replace.
jordan holmes
It's exactly.
But nobody's doing the replace part.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
At least Alex Jones is like, hey, how about health care comes from the 11th dimension?
How about that, guys?
dan friesen
He's not even going to be that specific.
And also, at the end, he's going to talk about Satan.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
alex jones
We have to organize ourselves into chivalrous, good, strong organizations that re-invoke the rituals of the also.
dan friesen
I want to interrupt here for a second.
I'm actually going to go back to the beginning.
Because I didn't catch this the first time I was listening to it.
When he says chivalrous, do you think he's talking about like knights?
jordan holmes
I think he's more talking about.
dan friesen
More holding doors open for ladies.
jordan holmes
I think it's more holding doors open for ladies, but it's not like the ancient code of chivalry.
I do think there's also the implied, like, and women are chivalrous societies, that kind of a thing.
dan friesen
We've got to save them all from dragons.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
We've got to make sure that they don't hurt themselves.
dan friesen
All right.
This is definitely not going to lead some of his fucking listeners to end up like Don Quixote.
alex jones
We have to organize ourselves into chivalrous, good, strong organizations.
Like unions.
That re-invoke the rituals of the birthrights, that re-invoke the rituals of the rights of the Masons.
That stress people in a good way to flower into what they're supposed to be and that have a culture that admires human strength and worships what God made because God is what we worship and we're made in the image.
This is all a satanic ritual against the most beautiful great thing on this planet, humans.
The whales are great.
The elephants are amazing.
We're a trillion times better.
We can do anything.
This is all the test to the next level.
You don't just think God just gives his creatures unlimited power like spoiled children right away.
No wonder these Luciferians feel all the power of the universe and the ideas and think they're God and want to go crazy and take over.
That's the devil.
That's the spirit of Lucifer.
dan friesen
Oh boy.
jordan holmes
That is some full-on fire and brimstone Scarjo.
Not Scarjo, Marjo shit right there.
dan friesen
That's not Scarlett Joe has it.
jordan holmes
Scarlett Joe.
No, there's the child preacher in the.
I want to say it was Marjo or something.
dan friesen
I'm thinking it's more along the lines.
Like he gets a little Jim Jonesy throughout these.
unidentified
Sinners in the hands of an angry God kind of thing.
dan friesen
There is a feeling.
I worry that if things get really bad, it's going to be either take to the streets or drink the Kool-Aid.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Do you think he's going to turn this into a death cult?
Because this has the feel of a death cult coming, right?
dan friesen
And he accuses globalism of being a literal death cult.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
He calls Islam a death cult.
jordan holmes
Whatever it is they're saying we're doing is what they're trying to do, so we need to do it first.
So if they're a death cult, we need to death cult better.
dan friesen
It's possible.
I don't know.
It's really weird, though.
This is weird.
Again, I'm not taking him out of context.
I'm letting these clips play.
I'm engaging with the source material, which is his talking.
He always likes to say, I don't believe these things.
It's what the globalists believe.
But in that sentence, he said, do you think God gives these gifts to children on their, like, at the beginning?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
They have to work for it.
That's why these Satanists feel so powerful.
jordan holmes
I don't understand that second part of the sentence.
dan friesen
You know what the second sentence is?
jordan holmes
Does Lucifer give it to the Satanists first?
dan friesen
I guess so.
But what he's implicitly saying, or even explicitly, is that there are powers.
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
He is saying that.
Explicitly saying.
dan friesen
And that if we good folks, like himself, work, they get good powers.
Whereas these evil people are just given evil powers for joining up.
It's a complete psychotic break.
jordan holmes
He's living in Dragon Ball Z. That's what he's living in.
He's living in Dragon Ball Z. You can't get a shortcut to increasing your power level to 5,000.
dan friesen
Supermale vitality.
jordan holmes
You've got to work hard.
You've got to take Supermale Vitality.
dan friesen
That's how you charge up like Gurku.
jordan holmes
Over 9,000.
dan friesen
That's what we're going for.
You take Caveman, you charge up.
jordan holmes
Chew up bones.
Yeah.
I'm still not going to be able to get past the whole this is ground up bones thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Now, admittedly, you know what?
Marshmallows, there's a lot of ground-up bones in there.
So never mind.
I'm totally fine with taking a ground-up bone pill.
dan friesen
Gelatin is kind of like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's ground-up bones.
Fuck it.
Anyway, I think the whales are great and the elephants are great, but you know what?
Ground-up bones are a trillion times better.
dan friesen
I do like how he has to throw shade at animals all the time.
It does seem to.
That is a recurring theme.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
He hates the animal kingdom.
dan friesen
This next clip, he gets into some more Satan talk.
alex jones
When you look at Chucky Schumer, as you look at all these New World Order people and you look at what they're doing and you look at what they're involved in, and they are Satanists, ladies and gentlemen.
And there is a real struggle against evil taking place right now on this planet.
I mean, you look at the Michael Moores and the Gloria Steinems and the Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi's.
Those are dry, empty husk zombies.
unidentified
Again.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Again, women.
He's talking shit about women.
It's always about women.
dan friesen
He does seem to.
Well, I mean, it's because he has that clip of Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi, so they're fresh on the mind as targets for him.
jordan holmes
Don't take down Gloria Steinem.
Why are you doing that?
Because he does not hold a fucking candle to Gloria Steinem.
No, but she would eat his balls alive.
I'm fairly certain that those balls are ground up into bone right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he, if I recall, the reason he's mad at her is he believes that she works for the CIA.
jordan holmes
Oh, but not the devil?
Or does the CIA also work for the devil?
dan friesen
I think he is moonlighting.
jordan holmes
I really want to find out what his devil.
dan friesen
The org chart.
jordan holmes
Because he calls out organizations, but then how, like, do we ever get into specific people who are working for the CIA, but also the devil on a false devil flag?
dan friesen
In a little bit, he's going to get into his idea of the hierarchy of things.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, good.
dan friesen
So there is a little bit of talk about that coming up.
jordan holmes
Oh, then that should clarify things because, as we know, whenever I get a clip, it always clarifies things.
unidentified
Absolutely.
dan friesen
It doesn't create clarifies me.
So this next clip, we learn a couple things.
First, it turns out that Jerry Sandusky's son got arrested for molesting children.
Yep.
jordan holmes
Like father, like son.
dan friesen
I mean, it is something that is generational a lot of times because if you.
jordan holmes
And it kind of suggests that he may have been molested himself.
dan friesen
100%.
I mean, there's almost no doubt in my mind that that's the case, and that's a real tragedy.
Alex reads way more into that and how it is they're part of a bigger system.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And this is also a clip where we learn that Alex Jones recently read Dracula.
alex jones
Told you they're going to start arresting people in Pennsylvania with the Sandusky situation.
They arrested his son, reportedly one of the procurers.
His daddy was a procurer.
Told you Sandusky was only the Renfax.
jordan holmes
He didn't say anything like that ever.
alex jones
Count Dracula still sits.
jordan holmes
Don't ever say procurer.
dan friesen
He said it so lasciviously.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what the fuck was that?
dan friesen
Also, I don't know if there's any evidence that that is true, that they were procuring children.
jordan holmes
I don't care.
They're pedophiles.
Yeah, it does not matter.
dan friesen
That's bad enough.
jordan holmes
The thing is that he's using that in such an exploitative manner.
dan friesen
Right, because you have to juice up your base.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
You have to make the people even matter at Chuck Schumer.
Right.
jordan holmes
Chucky Schumer.
dan friesen
By connection to this.
God.
It's insane.
jordan holmes
That's fucking disgusting.
Now I'm going to put the mic down.
I saw you get very animated.
dan friesen
I had to go back because this is the evidence that.
And he brings up these references that he makes about 50 times on the last three episodes of the show.
So it's clear he fucking read Dracula really recently.
Or someone had a conversation with him about it.
jordan holmes
Or he saw the great Gary Oldman portrayal of Dracula where Keanu Reeves really crushes it in a speaking role, which is bad for him.
dan friesen
Here we go.
alex jones
He was only the Renfield.
Count Dracula still sits there in Penn State.
Count Dracula only gets the trainees to rape kids.
They're not just raping kids.
They're slicing their throats.
But long after they torture him and torture him real hard.
What the?
So you get something through your heads out there, all of you.
You sign on to this evil.
You keep making your jokes about Trump and what's happening as they arrest pedophiles from Pennsylvania to California, as Wiener prepares to be indicted for child porn, as all of these criminal groups get rolled up.
You just remember what side you were on.
Good God, look at what you stand for.
Look at how physically ugly your leaders are.
That's a manifestation of the fact that that's their spirit, and that's what they want, and they want ugliness.
They like ugliness.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, before we say anything else, he has just opened himself up for personal appearance attacks.
dan friesen
He looks like shit.
jordan holmes
He looks like fucking garbage.
Do not, do not come at me with your physical appearance is what your spirit manifests itself without you looking in a goddamn mirror real fucking hard.
dan friesen
Rob Dew looks like shit.
Leanne McAdoo's smoking hot.
So she's cool.
jordan holmes
She's cool.
dan friesen
Fucking David Knight looks like a fucking Santa Claus impersonator at a mall.
jordan holmes
He does look all right shirtless, though.
dan friesen
He looks okay.
Who else we got?
jordan holmes
Roger Stone looks not good.
dan friesen
Roger Stone looks like a glamour puss.
jordan holmes
He's out in the touching ladies business.
Our boy John Rappaport looks like definitely not looks good.
Looks like he has been through the Unabomber ringer.
dan friesen
Paul Joseph Watson is attractive in some lights, but he always looks like he's about to cry.
He looks like the biggest puss in the world.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But, you know, if he didn't talk, I'd think he'd probably be attractive.
And if he put some fucking, get some Visine.
Get some fucking Visine in your eyes, Paul Joseph Watson.
jordan holmes
You just described the Tinder date you went on with Paul Joseph Watson right there.
dan friesen
If you just shut the fuck up, but social justice warriors, we could have enjoyed our coffee.
Yeah, but also the thing that I find super offensive about that clip is the insinuation that there's only two sides.
There's like, if you're not on board with Trump, you are one of these pedophiles.
You're as bad as them.
jordan holmes
You're defending them.
Everybody is associated with pedophiles.
If there's any news about a pedophile, it will immediately be related to Hillary Clinton and the globalists.
And slitting your kids' throats.
dan friesen
And again, he's talking so lasciviously about that.
jordan holmes
It's so fucking disgusting.
dan friesen
He's trying to horrify people and then be like, if you don't want to be like that, you've got to be on our side.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which works for really dumb people, but it does not.
If you're critical and you can realize, no, I'm against your wacky bullshit.
unidentified
And I'm also wrongly pedophiles.
dan friesen
Also, a lot of these reports that are coming out that are being used as evidence that Trump is rolling up pedophile networks, a lot of them.
There's a bunch of stuff on conspiracy blogs and message boards about these arrests that are going on.
And a lot of the times they aren't pedophile rings.
They are human trafficking things, but they're adults.
They're prostitutes.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, human trafficking is bad.
But again, I don't think Trump has a goddamn thing to do with that.
dan friesen
Probably not.
But also, human trafficking is just what a lot of prostitution charges get ended up being trumped up to.
jordan holmes
Oh, really?
dan friesen
Yeah.
A lot of these people who are getting arrested are just small-time prostitutes or a pimp.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
No, I mean, pimps are bad.
That's not.
jordan holmes
Pimps are bad.
But it's not slitting kids' throats.
The sex industry should be legalized.
I think that's a good thing.
There should be protections.
That is not the same thing as human trafficking, which is horrifying.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Human trafficking is truly horrifying.
And to conflate those two together very, very evil.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And a lot of these sites are doing that.
I can't say that for every single instance, but a couple of them I've looked into.
It's like, this is just a run-of-the-mill prostitution sting.
But anyway, the big point that I want to make is that you can very much be against Trump and against pedophiles.
jordan holmes
It seems like that should be a point that does not need to be made.
dan friesen
Nope.
But anyway.
jordan holmes
Somehow we're in that world.
We're in the darkest timeline.
dan friesen
We now get back to some shit about Flynn.
And Alex tells a little lie about a time he went to dinner.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Is somebody going to compliment his car again?
dan friesen
No, it's even more insane.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
The globalist, the breakaway deep state, was spying on Flynn while he's in there.
His only sin is he's so genuine and so good and working against all this, he doesn't realize how they would spend that kind of stuff.
When they have some guy speaking Russian walking over to me, I look over, where's the camera?
Oh, there's somebody, ah, or I'm sitting there at dinner with Activity Navy Salesman walks over and goes, Alex, I want you to talk to Trump about nuclear submarines for Taiwan.
And I look, where's the camera?
Yep, there they are.
This guy's like, I'm dumb, sitting there filming.
It's just like, you know.
So they could run back to the intelligence agency and goes, here's Jones acting like he's got contacts with Trump trying to sell submarine deals.
That's how it works, folks.
dan friesen
That's not how it works.
jordan holmes
That is not how it works.
That's a very bad spy.
That's a really, really bad spy.
dan friesen
He's told this story a couple times, which leads me to believe that something might have happened, but it was probably.
jordan holmes
Talk about nuclear submarines for Taiwan.
dan friesen
I imagine if this did happen, it was someone trying to prank him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It wasn't intelligence agencies.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
It was someone, like some jackass coming up and trying to fuck with him.
jordan holmes
I'm against the intelligence community because of their implicit evil.
dan friesen
And explicit.
jordan holmes
But you do have to give them at least a basic level of competency.
They're not going up to random people being like, hey, man, you've been doing any spying lately?
dan friesen
You want to talk to Trump about selling us a nuclear submarine?
jordan holmes
Hey, I'm not a spy.
Are you a spy?
You guys do drugs.
What is this?
dan friesen
It's so crazy.
Like, for someone who claims to have sources and know how things work on the inside, for him to think that that was anything other than someone fucking with him, or quite possibly it's just him making something up.
jordan holmes
That has to be him making something up.
dan friesen
Or just the entire thing up.
jordan holmes
Most likely.
Anyway, I like how he used the terrible job interview line of like, what's your biggest flaw?
I think it's that I'm just too genuine.
dan friesen
I have too much integrity.
jordan holmes
I just have so much.
I'm too nice.
Yeah.
I really am just such a genuinely good person.
I think that's my biggest flaw.
dan friesen
After he finishes up his dinner lie, he does some role-playing about what Flynn's firing myself.
unidentified
I love role-playing.
alex jones
I'm sitting there at dinner and drinking a beer and shuttling Wolfgang Puck appetizers in my mouth.
And this is the kind of crap I deal with on a weekly basis.
And so that's what Flynn and everybody, who's used to his own military culture and trying to do a good job and telling the truth.
And, oh, yeah, line up the calls.
Okay, we'll get the Russian ambassador.
Line that call up for tomorrow with the president.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
We'll negotiate talking to Putin.
Now, sir, I can't talk to you about the sanctions, but you know, Trump wants to open a relationship, so we're going to try to work with you and try to mutually successful things for humanity.
Oh, my God.
Flynn's been blackmailed.
dan friesen
So that's basically the thrust of his argument.
jordan holmes
So his argument is that what Flynn was doing talking to the Russian ambassadors was actually saying, I can't talk to you about this yet.
dan friesen
Yeah, the Russians brought it up.
He artfully dodged the question and said, look, I know Trump wants to work with you, but I can't talk about that stuff.
jordan holmes
And then absolutely did not lie to anybody about that.
He was just too genuine to lie about what it was.
dan friesen
Well, no, because he didn't talk to them about sanctions.
They just asked him, and he said, I can't talk to you about it.
So when he was asked about it, he didn't think that that qualified as talking about sanctions.
jordan holmes
Wow.
Even that qualifies, right?
Qualifies as lying.
That still seems like something you would want to talk about.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If they asked you about sanctions, wouldn't that be a thing where you're like, hey, I think they're really concerned about these sanctions?
dan friesen
That might be something to report.
But if Alex's version of the truth was real, which it's not, but if that were real, that would be a very different scenario, I think.
I don't think I would be that worried about him saying something like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's actually him being very genuine and honest.
dan friesen
But that's not true.
jordan holmes
Not even close to true.
That's the exact opposite of anything true.
dan friesen
I don't think that people are so fucking bonered out to make a case against someone that they're going to Trump up that.
jordan holmes
That's the laziest thing, too.
dan friesen
Also, he claims that he knows that this is what happened because the transcripts have been released.
jordan holmes
And they haven't.
dan friesen
Nope.
So he's citing something that isn't public, and he doesn't have these transcripts.
jordan holmes
I do like how he describes Wolfgang Puck appetizers as shit he has to deal with every day.
dan friesen
Well, once a week.
unidentified
Yeah, once a week.
dan friesen
He's going to Wolfgang Puck once a week.
Once a week, someone is trying to pretend he's a Russian with a video camera.
Just absolute insanity.
Anyway, here is actually the role-playing that he does about the Flynn firing.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And of course, the president then, I guess, got advised, or Flynn probably just got sick of it and said, I'm resigning.
Not a good move.
That's how they trick you.
In fact, I haven't talked to any of these people, but I bet that Flynn just said, sir, I don't want to be a distraction.
I'm sorry.
I probably should have been clear on that.
I'm going to resign.
Trump said, well, all right, but keep advising me behind the scenes.
unidentified
I bet money that's out when that's also a crime?
alex jones
I think it is.
jordan holmes
Keep advising me behind the scenes?
That is, you have to.
No, you can't do that behind the scenes.
You have to have transcripts.
There's laws.
There's super laws.
It's really important that there are those things.
You can't just advise him behind the scenes.
dan friesen
I think it's good that he said, I haven't talked to any of these people.
I'm just guessing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because if he had.
jordan holmes
But I bet.
I bet the way it went down.
dan friesen
Because if he had talked to them and he knew that this was going, like what it, you know, what was going on.
jordan holmes
He just revealed a crime.
He just revealed the against the laws.
dan friesen
Although two episodes back, he did just read allegedly.
jordan holmes
Classified material.
Yeah, that's true.
It kind of both suggests that nobody is listening to Alex Jones and everybody does not care if they are.
dan friesen
What if it's all just bots and us?
jordan holmes
What if all the rest of Russian bots?
It's Putin's Russian hacker teams.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
The hacker farms, and they're just all doing the views just over and over and over again.
dan friesen
The more I think about it, the more I do realize he has to have outside funding.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I've thought about it a whole bunch more.
And on Wednesday's show, he was talking about how, you know, selling this stuff doesn't fund the operation the way he needs.
You're getting money from somewhere else.
There's no way.
jordan holmes
I would like to track his tax returns.
It's too late for that.
It's too late for that.
The Republicans voted against him releasing his tax returns.
Because it's time for us to just move on.
dan friesen
We can't Freedom of Information Act Alex Jones' tax returns.
jordan holmes
Not yet.
We've got to wait 25 years or whatever.
dan friesen
Once Obama gets his fucking street soldiers out there, maybe.
Sorry, you had a question.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
What was it?
dan friesen
Well, maybe while you think about it, we'll get to this next clip, which is about it gets into how all of this that's going on in the world is preparation for war.
And then he talks about how Marine Le Pen is fucking sweet.
alex jones
Now they're like, ah, victory.
There's Russian spies everywhere.
Let's bring down the Russians.
And this is for when they start a war with Russia, because they got operatives inside the military, you name it.
And then saying anybody that didn't for the war is a Russian agent.
And who would have known?
They're saying in France.
They're saying in Germany.
They're saying everywhere.
If any nationalist movements come that don't want to open borders to Islam and don't want anti-Christian groups everywhere, well, you know what?
They're secretly.
You heard them first.
Russian spies.
And the State Department is in open revolt against Trump and Rex Tillison.
jordan holmes
Yeah, for good reason.
alex jones
Battling Le Pen, who they say is a Russian agent.
jordan holmes
Who says that?
dan friesen
No one.
alex jones
And then they've got spies around the clock, around Le Pen, waiting for her to go to a cocktail party or an event and shake the hands.
Of course, the Russians are trying to work with him.
That's what all the companies do.
dan friesen
But, I mean, that's just his Wolfgang Puck story again.
But with Marine Le Pen.
He's arguing that people are saying that she's a Russian spy, and no one is.
People are just saying she's a fucking fascist because she is.
And that they're saying that Russians actively would like her to get into power because it facilitates their goal of breaking up the UN.
jordan holmes
Yeah, again, it's the same reason that they want a Trump.
dan friesen
They're not saying she's a Russian spy.
They're just saying that Russia's into her, and they went to court.
Someone called her a fascist.
She sued.
It went to court, and it got thrown out of court because the court ruled.
jordan holmes
She was a fascist.
dan friesen
The court ruled that her opinions and her philosophies are legally fascism.
So when people are.
jordan holmes
She's legally a fascist.
dan friesen
Yeah, so when people are, like...
jordan holmes
So the court case was, read a dictionary.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
But that's his whole thing, is like Russian agents, Russian blah, blah, blah.
jordan holmes
And here's the thing.
I don't necessarily disagree with him that people are being russophobic in a way that isn't productive.
There are plenty of times where I've seen people say, oh, it's the agents of the Russians who are at fault for all kinds of things, when, again, it's much more likely to be just basic incompetence.
Sure.
dan friesen
I think there's some of that.
jordan holmes
Like the Podesta email things, it was a basic phishing attack.
All Podesta did was click on a link.
So yes, it was a Russian hacker who put the link in an email.
But also, Podesta's just shitty at the internet.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, that's maybe my biggest problem with our government as it is right now is that it seems like everybody in power is just bad at Googling shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, that's because people stay in power for longer than they should.
And technology moves way faster than anyone thinks it's going to.
So you end up with people in power who have been there since the internet was young.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And they don't fucking understand how all this stuff works.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
To a large extent, I don't fucking understand all this stuff, and I've grown up with it.
jordan holmes
Well, Trump is a 70-year-old man.
dan friesen
He's fucked.
jordan holmes
Imagine every 70-year-old man you know add all of their collective internet knowledge together, light it on fire in a golden toilet.
And that's what Trump knows about the internet.
dan friesen
And that's how you end up reading confidential documents with a cell phone phone.
jordan holmes
That's fucking crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah, that's how you end up.
jordan holmes
That is the dumbest thing.
Look, did you see that?
Did you see Citizen 4?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know how they put their fucking phones in the freezer?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because they might just even be listening a little bit?
He pointed his phone with a flashlight at classified fucking documents.
dan friesen
At Mar-a-Lago, at a public dinner with the Japanese Prime Minister.
jordan holmes
Donors and prime ministers.
Oh, man.
I have tape on my computer's webcam because that's how they can see it.
Yeah, you can watch people.
It's easy.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
I'm losing.
That blew me away.
dan friesen
That's one part he's 70, another part like, oh, my God.
jordan holmes
The other part is that everybody in his fucking cabinet is idiotic.
They posted a picture with the guy who carries around the nuclear football.
dan friesen
They didn't.
jordan holmes
You shouldn't.
dan friesen
Some donor.
jordan holmes
Yeah, some donor did.
You shouldn't have that information out there.
dan friesen
No, well, I'm sure they've switched it out and it's a new guy now.
jordan holmes
I doubt they have.
dan friesen
If you are really doing security for the president and you see someone like buddying up to the nuclear football guy, you fucking get that guy away from that.
jordan holmes
That's bad.
dan friesen
Yeah, you don't let him take some glory shots with him.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's insane.
jordan holmes
That is insane.
But that's full-on Dr. Strangelove territory that we're getting into.
dan friesen
But that's, again, one of the downsides of Trump being allowed to use his own private security instead of trained Secret Service agents.
He has his own guard around him, and they don't know what is dangerous, what's a leak.
jordan holmes
How is any of this acceptable?
dan friesen
It's not, and it's going to get so much worse.
jordan holmes
None of this is acceptable.
dan friesen
I mean, Jordan, it's all progress.
jordan holmes
None of this is acceptable.
dan friesen
It's all progress until the end.
jordan holmes
There are zero news stories that you read where you're like, okay, I'm fine with that.
dan friesen
I have a news story for you.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
It's what the globalists are actually trying to do.
unidentified
Ooh.
alex jones
Well, what they really say is we're going to kill everybody.
And we're going to have to do that.
You won't even matter.
But first, we're going to make you ugly and stupid and poison you and get you to accept evil so that we have a right to you.
Because if you declare your birthright as sentient and conscious and say I want free will and say I want the secrets of the universe and say I want to be with God and I want to be good.
Well, then you don't have a place at their table and help.
Okay.
And so they must poison you so they can rule you.
I don't want to be an Ansi Pelosi or a Chucky Schumer.
Take one look at those dead-eyed zombies.
Those walking dead.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
jordan holmes
Every time I look at Nancy Pelosi, I just think, I don't want your life.
What is fucking that?
dan friesen
They want to kill you.
jordan holmes
Usually, we're looking at his whole Satanism talk as like a thinly veiled metaphor that maybe he thinks is true.
This is full-on, we're in Holy War territory, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, you want to jump a little bit deeper into it?
Because he does spell out some more in this next clip.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, this is full, this is like left-behind novel situation.
dan friesen
Here we go.
alex jones
Take one look at those people.
They're Renfields, too, folks.
jordan holmes
Dracula.
alex jones
They're not doing the blood sucking.
jordan holmes
Dead and loving it.
Yeah.
alex jones
Schumer's got the look, though.
dan friesen
That's 100% a Jewish thing.
jordan holmes
That is definitely a Jewish thing.
dan friesen
He's got the look.
Chuck Schumer is, people make fun of him because he looks Jewish.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's like a meme.
Why?
Why are anti-Semites still allowed?
dan friesen
I don't know if he actually is.
He's subconsciously doing that, but he also says that Michael Moore has the look.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So maybe it's not totally Jew-based, but man, come on.
jordan holmes
Woody Allen has the look.
dan friesen
Choose your words a little more carefully, Alex.
Just please don't accuse Jews of having that evil look.
Just don't do that.
jordan holmes
Mitt Romney doesn't have the look.
I can't think of a reason why.
dan friesen
Anyway, more Dracula talk.
alex jones
Tell you this: Pelosi ain't doing the feeding.
Pelosi's a little zombo.
Totally freaked out by what she's involved in.
But on a power trip and arrogant narcissistic.
But Schumer, that's a big old Dracula walking this plane.
And Michael Moore has kind of reached Dracula level.
George Soros is big old Dracula, but there's bigger Draculas back in that shadow.
They turn themselves over to the worst stuff in the universe.
And they know I see him.
jordan holmes
But you can't see him in a mirror.
dan friesen
Honestly, this sounds like a drunk guy at a saloon.
jordan holmes
It really does.
It really does.
So he's doing a four-hour show after this?
Because that has a, yeah.
That's an old-fashioned.
Yeah.
dan friesen
But he doesn't sound drunk like Drunk Alex.
He just sounds like a guy.
jordan holmes
Didn't Val Kilmer deliver that exact same monologue in Tombstone?
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's like telling tales, that sort of thing.
It's tall tales with Alex Jones.
Don't worry about him.
jordan holmes
There are bigger Draculas in the shadows.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
Who does he think those people are?
dan friesen
Huge Draculas.
He sees them.
jordan holmes
Like, size-wise?
dan friesen
Yeah, probably, because all the blood.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Because all the blood rushes to their...
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Okay.
I don't...
I don't know.
He wouldn't say names, obviously, because that's what keeps him alive.
jordan holmes
See, that does support your paranoid schizophrenia situation right there.
There are even bigger ones in the shadows.
Like, I'm fine if he's picking out names, but the bigger ones in the shadows thing, that's really confusing and worrying.
dan friesen
Because he does mention the names like Rothschild and stuff like that that are just sort of modern boogeymen.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He does talk about George Soros.
So, like, who is over?
jordan holmes
Who is the, yeah.
dan friesen
And this goes back to like conspiracy narratives as old as time.
It's like, people who are really the power players, you'll never hear their names.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're the ones who are pulling the strings from buttons.
And it's like, okay, that's 100% undisprovable, so let's just have fun.
I speculating wildly.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
The bigger ones in the shadows.
dan friesen
That's such a weird thing.
jordan holmes
It's such a weird thing.
dan friesen
He gets fucking weird, or would you believe that?
jordan holmes
I totally would.
alex jones
Well, I see him.
That's why I don't have any fear of him.
God.
Ever submitting to them is death.
Ever having them win is death.
Not for me, not for my ego, but for the species.
Oh, I'm selfish.
I realize my life's like that, but I'm part of the continuum of good people, and I know we're better than them by trillions.
jordan holmes
He doesn't know.
alex jones
Trillions and trillions and trillions of light years.
Total differences.
jordan holmes
Light years is distance.
alex jones
Dimensions.
Complete different paradigms.
dan friesen
Totally different dimensions.
It's yeah.
jordan holmes
For a guy who tells you how often it is not about his ego, seems like it's a lot about his ego.
dan friesen
There's a bit of it that feels that way.
It's also incredibly difficult to wrestle with, like, okay, this guy is talking about Renfields and Draculas and big Draculas and 12th dimensions and all this.
jordan holmes
Trillions and trillions of light years.
dan friesen
And he's a policy wonk.
You know, like, it's just it doesn't work.
The two don't go together.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
If you're a policy wonk, you would need real catalogued information about these here big Draculas.
You know what I'm saying?
jordan holmes
Do you think I would like to note, do you think his listener base is decreasing since he started going full?
dan friesen
No, I think people are enjoying the ride.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
I mean, we clearly are.
dan friesen
I don't think that anyone who's.
I don't want to say anything.
jordan holmes
If you've been listening to Alex Jones for this long, you're already all in.
You're just going to follow this to the end.
dan friesen
I've read some posts on conspiracy message boards about him in the last couple weeks.
And unfortunately, a lot of people who watch the Joe Rogan podcast.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
A lot of them were like, you know what?
It was kind of slow, but at the end, when he started talking about transdimensional stuff, that's when I realized this guy gets it.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
There's a lot of dumb people out there.
unidentified
No.
Yeah.
dan friesen
Yeah.
alex jones
Boo.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I think actually he's probably picking up that dumb psychonaut kind of group.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I'm not saying anything against the people who identify as psychonauts.
I think hallucinogens are real cool, and I support people experimenting with them and all that shit.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But there's a lot of them.
jordan holmes
And legalizing prostitution.
dan friesen
There's a lot of really dumb people in that group.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Who have fried their brains with hallucinogens, and I think he's picked up a lot of them.
So when he starts spouting this Dracula shit, they're like, oh, fuck.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Man.
Andrews.
I wonder if he just eventually picks up that entire word.
Like, he just broadens his base as he gets more and more crazy to the big tent Republican ideology of the 80s.
dan friesen
That would be amazing.
The other thing, too, though, is because he's using all this dimensional language and Draculas and coupling that idea with something that is as repugnant and universally hated as pedophilia and child abduction and murder, these sorts of things.
Because he's doing that, the people who are like, oh, fuck, that's what it's all about.
It's emotional manipulation.
You take this crazy paranoid delusions and match them with a real-world issue, and all of a sudden you have an argument that people don't want to argue against.
Because if you argue against his Dracula metaphor, it sounds, if you're not thinking, it sounds like you're defending pedophiles.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, it's very much like in election years for judges and the like, whenever they're elected, it's statistically proven that that year they're way tougher on crime than otherwise.
Interesting.
Because you don't want to be the guy who is not punishing pedophiles enough for people.
dan friesen
Or if you accidentally lock somebody up, the public isn't as turned off by that as if you let someone go and lose another crime.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
That's interesting.
I think it's the old Futurama joke where it's like, yeah, but he doesn't want to appear weak on innocent people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Yuck.
Anyway, we're full on into where Alex.
jordan holmes
So, yeah, we're not on the major broadcast, so he's really allowed to go full trillions and trillions of light years away from anywhere resembling thought.
dan friesen
And the rest of the clips that I have are essentially a call to action and further insanity.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So enjoy this one.
This one is why we actually maybe shouldn't be all that afraid of globalists, possibly.
At least give it, I don't know, 20 more years and they shouldn't be a problem.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
alex jones
The good news is globalists can hardly reproduce.
And they're diseased and mentally ill.
That's why they're obsessed with technology and science.
They believe that will make them ascendant.
Because by the inbreeding, they have made themselves susceptible to the spiritual disease they're under.
God almighty.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Oh, wait.
What?
Okay.
By inbreeding, they've made themselves susceptible to the disease they already have.
dan friesen
Which is what?
Globalism.
jordan holmes
Evil?
Have we established an actual disease?
dan friesen
No, but it's just trying to pair the.
jordan holmes
Let's call it pneumonia.
Let's call all globalists have pneumonia.
They're inbred.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
They can't reproduce for reasons.
dan friesen
Because of inbreeding.
jordan holmes
Because of inbreeding.
dan friesen
It's just trying to represent.
jordan holmes
They're obsessed with technology to ascend as opposed to being obsessed with weird, creepy religion to ascend.
dan friesen
Yes, but the inbred stuff and they can't reproduce is just trying to connect in just people's intrinsic distaste for blue bloods and all the stories of nobility in the past and shit like that.
jordan holmes
Well, and his entire thing is that kind of toxic masculinity where it's like, it is all about being full, you know, I should be able to fight a man.
I should be big.
I should have a big, I should have perfect sperm and yada, yada, yada.
dan friesen
Sure, there is a lot of that.
jordan holmes
So if you, so all of those emasculation narratives can always come into play, whether it is.
dan friesen
Oh, they're in play.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're in play.
dan friesen
But also, you know what else is in play?
Weird experimentation.
unidentified
Ooh.
alex jones
Pause.
See, for one globalist Dracula you see out walking around, there were five or ten hideous experiments.
jordan holmes
They can't do anything.
alex jones
You're like deformed, mentally ill.
I mean, all of them.
The royal family's all just locked up huge deals of just completely insane, but I mean, not like you're sweet and sane persons.
I mean, it's there's not many of them that you function.
And they can only function when they're doing evil against good people.
See, they need the blood.
And that's metaphysical.
They need your soul.
They need to hurt good people every day or their God deserts them.
They're the most horribly fallen, enslaved people.
They are humans.
Sure.
But all they have is a demonic will to crush good people.
That's all they have.
That's all they'll ever be.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
Man, oh, man.
How could you possibly be against him if that's the side you're on?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
I mean, if all they have is a demonic will to crush people, which, again, we have not established a possible win scenario.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Do they get rid of all of these people?
I guess.
So this is.
dan friesen
Well, no, he's on this.
This is said that this apes want to kill us all.
jordan holmes
But this is a comic book narrative that he's driving.
Sure.
Which is Batman doesn't exist without the Joker.
Joker doesn't exist without Batman.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
So there's always that yin and yang of good and evil.
Exactly.
dan friesen
So if Alex Jones wanted to be famous and there were no globalists, he would have to be a good person.
jordan holmes
He would have no chance.
Yeah, yeah.
We create our own enemies.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what happened in Yemen.
dan friesen
That happens a lot.
jordan holmes
This happens all the time.
dan friesen
But it's so, like, we're seeing this.
It's so manipulative and so stupid.
Like, this is.
jordan holmes
The royal family's experiments.
For every vampire you see walking the streets, which clearly it's nighttime.
dan friesen
But it's not, he's not being literal, except when he is.
jordan holmes
He did watch or see or read.
Let's go with watch.
He watched Dracula recently.
dan friesen
Stop bringing up goddamn Renfield.
jordan holmes
Dracula is actually a really boring book about economics and xenophobia.
So he definitely did not read that.
He watched the movie, which Gary Oldman, he disappears into the part.
Amazing.
dan friesen
Amazing.
In a way, he has not done since, except in tiptoes.
jordan holmes
His legs disappeared in that part.
Yeah.
From the knees down.
So for every one of those you see, there are five deformed experiments.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So again, we keep moving back and forth from the metaphysical to the physical because what does the deformed experiment look like?
Do you not see it walking the streets?
dan friesen
They're shackled up.
jordan holmes
So they're shackled up.
So how many globalists are there?
dan friesen
Can we get a basic count?
I have never seen the movie, but is this a man in the iron mask?
jordan holmes
I just wrote down man in the iron mask.
I just wrote down man in the iron mask.
I'm going to show it to you.
dan friesen
He did.
jordan holmes
I wrote it down before you said it.
Again, Leonardo DiCaprio disappears into the role of the man in the iron mask, who looks exactly like not the man in the iron mask.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I don't.
Look, we don't know how many globalists are.
jordan holmes
But there are those legends of kings and royal families who do have the deformed child that they keep in the attic.
dan friesen
But that's not an experimentation.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That's just, I mean, the results of inbreeding.
jordan holmes
But if you want a conspiracy theory that, then, yeah, you could say, you know, all of those different things.
They're trying to create an ultra-royal family with the inbreeding, yada, yada, yada.
dan friesen
But if you want a conspiracy theory, this, or if you want an unconspiracy theory this, he's just throwing spaghetti at the wall, all this very unrelated, weird, scary things.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's all he's doing.
It's a basic gestalt, as he might put it, of just fear.
jordan holmes
It's just fear.
I want to know: does he ever have notes?
dan friesen
He can't.
jordan holmes
He can't possibly have notes.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
So he is just improving the shit out of this.
He is a master improviser.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
In the same way that improv isn't funny.
unidentified
So I could do this.
jordan holmes
No, you could not.
dan friesen
I could easily.
jordan holmes
Three hours a day with this level.
dan friesen
With commercial breaks.
And if you gave me fucking unbridled testosterone pills.
And if I had a built-in narrative that there's evil boogeymen around.
And if you give me every day like three news stories that I barely understand and can just extrapolate on, fuck you, I could do that.
jordan holmes
I don't think you could do it.
I think it is exactly like one of those situations where you watch a world-class athlete and it looks so easy that you're like, I bet I could probably immediately compete with that.
Like downhill skiing.
Everybody's like, hey, you're just going downhill.
Yeah.
That easy.
dan friesen
We've effortlessly, we're now at an hour and 40 minutes into this.
jordan holmes
How are we in an hour and 40 minutes?
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
We could do, first of all, we could do five hours a day.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
But that's a tag team duo right there.
dan friesen
Right.
Split us up.
We could each do two and a half hours on our own.
jordan holmes
I could definitely not do this.
And if I could just have no chance of doing this.
dan friesen
And if I'm feeling like, fuck, I'm just not feeling it.
I got to kill 10 minutes.
I'll just throw it to a Rob Dew report or something like that.
That's what he does.
jordan holmes
RDo D-Doo.
I think that has to.
That's a t-shirt.
dan friesen
Yes, that's a shirt.
And PJ Dubbs hates S.J. Dubs.
jordan holmes
Leanne Wackadoo.
dan friesen
So anyway, yeah, the Globalists can't reproduce.
This next clip.
jordan holmes
Globalists can't reproduce.
That has to be literal.
He genuinely thinks the Globalists can't reproduce.
dan friesen
I literally don't know how that could be a metaphor.
jordan holmes
I don't.
There's no way other than maybe the idea is that their ideology can't spread because it's literal.
It's literal.
dan friesen
Anyway, this next clip features a real showman-like mood swing.
And I couldn't do this.
I could do that.
All right, I could do three hours a day.
Easy.
I couldn't do this.
jordan holmes
As a performer, I think he's really good at this.
dan friesen
Let's not interrupt this just so you can enjoy what I will admit I couldn't do.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
I've set my will against them.
And I'm asking you to set your will against them.
And Trump has set his will against them as well.
And we're going to, like a laser beam, like a particle beam that just gets stronger and stronger and stronger.
We're going to just focus and focus on them and do good things in our lives and be honorable and not fear and focus on God and focus on life and focus on blue skies and green fields and little fish swimming around happy ponds and happy trees and just focus.
Focus on the children.
Focus on them and defend them.
jordan holmes
Bob Ross!
alex jones
The things that have been done to them.
And we're going to go against the enemy.
We're going to drive through them and they can feel it.
They can feel God's will going through them.
Laying them low.
Taking them down the depths they swore they wanted.
Showing them who their God is.
They will fall forever.
I'm going to be on about 28, 38 minutes, Infowars.com.
But this rebellion against God will fall.
They already know they're falling.
They already know they're losers.
They're trying to take us with them.
And everybody knows that in their heart who hasn't been infected by this.
dan friesen
I haven't been infected by it.
jordan holmes
See, you could not, that is a full Sam Jackson right there.
That is a.
There's a reason you're not in every movie that's been made since the 1990s.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, did you see that swing from talking Bob Ross, Happy Trees to I think about what have been done to the kids, and he starts fake crying?
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was the fakest cry.
dan friesen
And then it turns immediately to vengeful wrath.
Like, he's showing so many.
unidentified
God shall rise up with furious anger and lay you low.
And he shall lay you low like Jericho.
jordan holmes
Like if he's Chris Jericho coming up in the next, okay.
dan friesen
If he's actually feeling the things he's presenting, he's feeling, he's in trouble.
And see, emotionally, he's in trouble because you can't.
jordan holmes
And then we get back to the paranoid schizophrenia.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because that's an act.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So what is he?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Is he God?
Is he man?
Is he some mix of the two?
dan friesen
I think he has.
jordan holmes
Is he the white Sam Jackson?
dan friesen
He has tinges of paranoia and then also horrible reading comprehension skills.
jordan holmes
I think that possibly the most dangerous combination.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't know.
I obviously don't think he could function the way he does if he was actually mild listening.
jordan holmes
He's too functional.
dan friesen
Yeah.
We don't like to think about the idea that this big of a liar could exist in the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good point.
dan friesen
But it's entirely possible that he gets off air and he's just like, whew, great show today.
jordan holmes
There's every type of monster in the human race, and it seems like this one has to exist.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, his editor recently came out and said he's a complete sellout.
There's a guy who was interviewed who used to work with David Knight and said that before he went to work for InfoWars, he was kind of a libertarian guy, but didn't buy into any of this shit.
And as soon as he started working for InfoWars, he did.
And so the theory that this guy had was that they know, they're in on the joke.
They know what they're doing.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Also, apparently, it's come out that InfoWars employees.
I can't find absolute proof of this, but I've seen it cited a couple times that InfoWars employees have to sign lifelong NDAs, non-disclosure agreements.
jordan holmes
For the next 10 million years?
dan friesen
Yeah, into the next life.
jordan holmes
Like in Scientology?
dan friesen
Basically, yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So it's entirely possible.
unidentified
Lifelong.
jordan holmes
That's illegal.
No, it's not.
That's not illegal.
dan friesen
No, you can do that.
You can sign something.
You can never talk about this.
It's a willful entering into a contract.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You can do it.
It's just sketchy as fuck.
jordan holmes
That's sketchy as fuck.
dan friesen
Because it kind of implies that if word ever gets out that we don't mean what we're saying, then it's going to be really bad.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not trade secrets like a non-compete agreement.
alex jones
No.
jordan holmes
That's don't tell that we're lying all the time.
dan friesen
That's a trade secret.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Good point.
Good point.
dan friesen
Anyway, here is where this is.
jordan holmes
You just counter-cooed my argument.
dan friesen
And I'm going to counter-counter coo it with this next quote.
alex jones
We have the technology, the will, the culture, the spirit, all of those things together to build the stairway to heaven.
But building is what does it, not tearing down.
jordan holmes
To hear.
alex jones
That said, though, when you're faced with pure evil, you have to take it down.
And when the rubble falls, it will crush the innocence.
And that's one of the greatest mysteries to know how far to go.
Because on this plane of existence, good fights fire with fire.
In fact, if good wanted to be evil, it would be infinitely worse than what these fallen people could even imagine.
jordan holmes
That's a really good question.
alex jones
That's why those of us that are good and tied into God have to watch what we say and what we speak into existence with these enemies because these fallen creatures aren't as smart as we are.
And we give them ideas.
So remember that.
dan friesen
That's a weird rationalization.
jordan holmes
But that is a good summation of the way that kind of moral society evolves is if you are good, you always have to have an evil to fight against.
If you're Batman, you always have to have a Joker to fight against.
And so you wind up creating your own evil.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So that, you know, we can go too far thing is the reality of any kind of morality-based system.
Is that sooner or later it's going to require a purity that is not possible?
unidentified
Fair.
dan friesen
But also, I don't like the idea that it's going to crush the innocence.
There's going to be collateral damage.
jordan holmes
Why is that crushing the innocence?
I don't know.
If you take evil down, it crushes the innocence?
dan friesen
I don't know.
But then also, the other part is like, that's why we have to be careful about what we say.
jordan holmes
Because we bring it into the world and we're so much smarter than evil.
dan friesen
We've done maybe 10, 12 episodes of this show.
One thing I can say with absolute certainty is that Alex never watches what he says.
That's the most crazy thing for him to say ever.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
I know a lot of things in life, and there's a lot of stuff I don't know.
What I do know is that he has never stopped himself from saying something unless it was intentional.
jordan holmes
Even if it's classified.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The only times he stops himself is when he's like, oh, fuck, I'm going to expose that I don't know.
I better say, I'm not going to get into that.
jordan holmes
We're going to go to a break.
We're going to go to a real quick break.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex says one last parting shot for this special report, which again was supposed to be about that article that was in foreign policy.
jordan holmes
That's right.
Every time we get to the end of the episode, I have no idea what we started the episode with.
dan friesen
It was supposed to be about Flynn and about the article in foreign policy.
Neither of those things will be covered, but we've learned a lot about.
jordan holmes
It is called foreign affairs, even though it's not actually called foreign policy.
dan friesen
It is called Foreign Affairs.
jordan holmes
He was right when he said that it's called Foreign Affairs.
dan friesen
He can't lie even when he lies.
jordan holmes
Even when he lies, he's telling the truth.
dan friesen
Anyway, this is his parting shot to the report, which is ominous.
alex jones
You want to get sucked into vampire holes with these people?
Go ahead.
But I want to warn all of you that are cynical and giggling that serve the system.
That's how deep down I'm right.
If you've got any spirit left, any soul left.
I'm Alex Jones, and you have been warned.
jordan holmes
Yikes.
You have been warned.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You have been warned.
dan friesen
I don't want to go into vampire holes.
jordan holmes
I don't.
dan friesen
But I also would never side with Alex.
jordan holmes
I worry if that's our binary.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Vampire holes or Alex Jones.
That sucks.
That is a rough binary.
dan friesen
That is like, fuck it.
Why did I get bored?
jordan holmes
Yeah, but you know, if you've read the Ann Rice Vampire Life, it seems pretty all right.
I would go down into the Vampire Holes.
unidentified
Now, if you're not talking about literal vampires, wouldn't you go down in the Vampire Holes?
dan friesen
If we're talking Twilight.
jordan holmes
Come on, down to the Vampire Hole.
dan friesen
Great Hank Williams Sr. song.
If we're talking literal vampires, maybe.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
If we're talking his weird child-molesting vampire, no, thank you.
jordan holmes
No, that's, but that's a bad vampire.
dan friesen
That's a very bad vampire.
jordan holmes
I would not read a book on that vampire.
dan friesen
Do you think that in the world of vampires, then, there's a sliding scale of morality and that you could be a good vampire?
jordan holmes
No, but there is a sliding scale of insurance payments.
That is, you know, every vampire needs good health care.
dan friesen
So that's the end of this special report that he did, but it's not the end of our episode.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
Oh, no.
unidentified
Uh-oh.
dan friesen
I have a couple bonus clips from Tuesday's episode.
jordan holmes
Bonus clips.
dan friesen
As you'll recall, he said in his special report, which he aired before his Tuesday show.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He said he was going to read that entire foreign policy article on the show.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I told you he didn't.
jordan holmes
He didn't.
dan friesen
But he keeps saying he's going to throughout the show.
jordan holmes
He keeps.
Can we just get a super clip of every time he says that he says that?
dan friesen
Because I have a 9 to 5 job.
I did not have the time to isolate the 30 times.
jordan holmes
You are slacking off.
dan friesen
He gets sidetracked by everything.
Sean Spicer is doing a news conference, and he's like, look, we'll get back to the article.
Let's go to this.
alex jones
Wow.
dan friesen
And so he just cuts away and gets distracted and goes off on a bunch of tangents.
I have a couple of them.
This first one is about 50 Shades of Gray, the sequel.
And how it's.
jordan holmes
50 Shades of Gray, I believe.
dan friesen
And then it's sort of about how it's eventually going to lead us to movies about how it's cool to have sex with kids.
alex jones
So that's what's going on in this country.
Is you got a bunch of scum on top who are into really bad stuff and even get into their club.
You've got to do horrible things.
And they know their whole party.
dan friesen
That's, again, his whole idea that in order to get into the elite group.
jordan holmes
You have to fuck a kid.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's like getting jumped into a gang.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
You have to kill your first man.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's basically that everyone has to have blackmail on each other or else the system doesn't work.
I don't believe that that's how the world works.
jordan holmes
That's just a bad system.
dan friesen
Seems untenable.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Is in trouble.
Let's get this break.
They know that Their whole shindig is in trouble because they went so far publicly saying they were going to teach pedophilia to kids, sexualizing them, publicly trying to legalize Nambla.
jordan holmes
No.
alex jones
Publicly saying mothers and fathers are bad.
dan friesen
No one said the mothers and fathers are bad.
jordan holmes
Nobody tried to publicly legalize Nambla.
dan friesen
No, but I think.
jordan holmes
Is Nambla real?
Isn't that from Arrested Development?
dan friesen
No, that's Motherboy.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
I got you.
That's right, Motherboy.
alex jones
Publicly saying there's 50 and then 100 genders, and you can't have a men's bathroom or a woman's bathroom because somebody else might not be a man or a woman just to make you feel bad for existing.
Total societal attack.
And the intelligence agencies can't help but run across all the weird occultic stuff that the elites are into.
It runs the gamut, but it's just an entire sewer of different garbage floating through it with the things they're into.
But it's all about hurting, innocence, degradating people, dominating, enslaving.
That's why they've got, you know, 50 shades of gray.
Then a new one comes out and it's more intense.
And now people are getting killed being part of it.
jordan holmes
Whoa, whoa.
alex jones
Choking to death.
And then the hospitals are having all these emergency calls.
And then next it'll be, oh, killing somebody.
And then next, raping a child.
See, that's how they successive approximation.
People say, well, it is kind of fun to slap your wife on the butt.
They like it.
Well, that's not hurting somebody.
That's fun.
They like it.
You like it.
That's not actually hurting somebody.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
Where's this going?
alex jones
But they take something innocent like that.
Right.
And then they extrapolate it out to the UN saying, what?
Legalize men being able to pick up children up to five years old.
If your five-year-old or your son or daughter wants to go out with some pot-bellied pedophile that comes knocking on your door, the UN and some countries like Sweden are actually looking at legalizing it, saying, oh, your child can have man-boy love.
jordan holmes
They're not.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
They're very much not.
No, but also, if a pot-bellied pedophile comes to your door and says, I want to take your five-year-old out on a date, that's bad parenting.
dan friesen
Definitely.
jordan holmes
Even if it's legal.
Even if it's legal, that's just bad parenting.
dan friesen
I also have two important points to make about this.
If Alex really wants to get into the nations of Renaissance and the great Western cultures, it's got to look at Greece.
And in Greek culture, men could fuck children.
jordan holmes
They totally could.
dan friesen
But it was only if it wasn't based in lust, if it was based in love and respect.
jordan holmes
And also.
dan friesen
Similarly, underage boys would fuck their teachers.
jordan holmes
It was generally that.
Yeah.
It was generally man-on-man nonsense.
dan friesen
So, I mean, if, first of all, Sweden's not doing this.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
But if you're going to the, hey, look at look at classical, classical Western civilization.
jordan holmes
Let's not.
Let's just not.
dan friesen
But then the other.
jordan holmes
Let's just let that one go.
The going from, oh, you're slapping your wife on the ass, and that's enjoyable for both people.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And now the UN is legalizing boy fucking.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's a crazy swing.
jordan holmes
That is a very quick escalation there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But then the other thing I want to bring up is the idea that if your kid wants to fuck this pot-bellied pedophile, they should have the right to.
He's had Milo Yiannopoulos on twice in the last week and a half or so for interviews.
Milo's talked about how when he was underage, he fucked older dudes and how he was the aggressor in it.
So that's kind of what Alex is talking about.
jordan holmes
I don't want to be here right now.
Why are you making me feel bad?
dan friesen
I don't know.
So, I mean, it's just like, it's a little, you know, you want to talk to Milo about that?
You want to grill him on it?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, maybe that's not his position.
jordan holmes
We did get called out for our Milo commentary.
And I don't necessarily disagree with all of what we were criticized about.
I do want to make the point that Milo is a Nazi and all conversations should end right there.
dan friesen
Come on, man.
Don't antagonize the good listeners.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
But yeah, I will say it was a little iffy of us not to listen on the show to the thing that we said we were going to listen to.
jordan holmes
Yeah, boy, it was just so hard.
dan friesen
It was.
jordan holmes
He made me feel so bad.
Just like all of what's happening in these last two clips.
dan friesen
Well, I'll tell you this.
This one's a little more fun.
In this clip, I believe Alex Jones makes the argument that science fiction is a conspiracy.
alex jones
The government's like divided into two.
There's a civil war going on.
True.
And the bureaucracy is the people in a lot of control positions are obviously Obama people.
Remember how he put tens of thousands of new people in before he left?
Like just last month?
Just putting moles in everywhere.
I mean, this is so seditious.
And then they tell us when they're the globalist takeover army, they're the corporate invaders.
It'd be like if aliens invaded.
dan friesen
By the way, I want to say this real quick.
This is one of my favorite clips we've ever pulled.
So get ready for that.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
This won't let you down.
All right.
jordan holmes
You're building this up.
This better be fucking, this better deliver.
dan friesen
This is also further evidence that Alex believes the stuff he says that he doesn't believe.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
There's more of that in here.
unidentified
Damn it.
jordan holmes
He's such a conundrum.
dan friesen
He's not.
He's an idiot.
alex jones
And we had a president that got elected to deal with the threat.
And the aliens pointed their finger and said, no, the Russians are the threat because Trump was talking to the Russians about fighting the aliens.
Because globalism is alien.
It's a new form of government.
It's global.
It's oppressive.
It's anti-human.
It's satanic.
It's the reason why it's fighting with the Bible and a fallen off-world entity.
And they make fun of that on the Young Turks and Huvington Post and the New York Times.
Oh, Jones believes an off-world entity is directing humanity to destroy itself.
Yeah, that's what every major culture believed.
And I'm Christian, and the Jews believe that too.
And you know what?
You look around, that's what's going on.
And then they find out the world leaders are praying to it and believe they're getting satanic knowledge on how to fight us.
And you know what?
You just study the British families in the 1850s that did all this.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
And they definitely believe they're channeling this stuff and then envisioned DNA, envisioned biometrics, envisioned all the major sciences, computers, and then went out and told their scientists to start developing it.
So we've got to have the general public hear about this so that the inventors come forward.
So they had H.G. Wells in the 1890s and things start and others start writing this, knowing that the elites couldn't come up with it, but they've been given the knowledge.
So they believe that they put out basically the basic template in predictive programming that then, because we're made in the image of God, we're master builders, that there would be humans that would then build it because they heard about it.
dan friesen
Did you understand?
What?
jordan holmes
Wait, wait.
dan friesen
We got a diagram.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
We got a diagram.
What?
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
So Satan's up here.
jordan holmes
Right.
Satan's at the top.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And he is this extra dimensional.
jordan holmes
Or at least satanic thinking is at the top.
dan friesen
Or demons or whatever.
jordan holmes
Whatever it is you want to go.
dan friesen
So they're at the top.
jordan holmes
And then we have the 1850s British government.
dan friesen
And they're globalists.
jordan holmes
They're global.
They're globalist.
dan friesen
And they're channeling this satanic force.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it tells them.
jordan holmes
So they're channeling it.
So I thought we were starting with off-world entities that both the Christians and the Jews believe.
dan friesen
Well, no, that's because he's trying to appeal to the idea of like, they believe in Satan.
He's a fallen angel.
jordan holmes
So that's what we're talking about as off-world entities.
Because him saying Off-World is kind of very much like, hey, you know, these Martians are coming to the 1850s British government that knows or that gets the knowledge that these things are possible.
They plant it in the brain of H.G. Wells, who, hey, he did build a working time machine.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
I think we all know that's true.
dan friesen
It's a great podcast.
I miss it very much.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know, right?
dan friesen
But no, no, so you're skipping a step.
jordan holmes
Dead author's podcast.
dan friesen
You're skipping a step.
So the satanic people.
jordan holmes
How are there more satisfaction?
dan friesen
The globalists channel this information.
They find all the knowledge.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
They want to tell scientists to make it.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
But they know, fuck, people are going to know we got this information from somewhere.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They're going to be freaked out by this.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So they tell science fiction authors to write stories about the stuff that they have gotten the demonic information about.
So when the public finds out about it, they're ready for it because they've read about it in science fiction.
jordan holmes
That is such a needlessly complicated plan.
dan friesen
We talk about Arkham's Razor.
jordan holmes
Just hire a dude.
dan friesen
Also, like.
jordan holmes
Apparently, you can sign a non-disclosure for your entire life.
dan friesen
And I mean, you brought up the time machine.
That's a book by H.G. Wells.
Still don't have one of those.
Invisible.
jordan holmes
Or do we?
Or do we?
Predictive programming.
dan friesen
Invisible man.
jordan holmes
Yep, we have invisible people now.
War of the world.
I saw Ghosts in the Shell.
dan friesen
I don't know the rest of H.G. Wells' bibliography, but I think you got the highlights.
I think none of them have been invented.
Anyway, he spouse.
He goes more on this.
And the end of my clip description is just Alex is an idiot.
alex jones
I mean, that sounds like a science fiction movie.
That's what you're living in.
jordan holmes
You just referenced a science fiction.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
So, well, they've got you obsessed with UFOs and, you know, crashed rockets and weather balloons and all this.
That's not where this stuff came from.
It came from the other dimensions.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
It's like that goofy movie, Pacific Rim.
We thought the aliens would come from outer space.
They came from a rift in the time-space continuum, a blast gate in the deep ocean.
jordan holmes
So, wait, that was real?
alex jones
That's basically what it is, but it's not 500-yard-tall dinosaurs.
jordan holmes
Because that would be way more fun.
alex jones
And then you can say, well, that's just insanity.
But I talked to top psychiatrists, psychologists, genetic engineers, all of them, all of them believe in God now.
All of them know intergalactic.
I mean, just that's what Christians all believe.
There's a fallen devil.
It wants to overthrow creation, do horrible things.
In the days of men, when all this was happening, there were giants and the seed wasn't clean because they'd genetically manipulated God's design.
jordan holmes
Wait.
That's in the Bible?
alex jones
And so God had to wipe off all the life on earth.
jordan holmes
All the come off.
alex jones
Start over, and then we dig up all this fantastical stuff.
They tell us, oh, that's billions of years old.
Folks, we're living in the middle of a fantastic forbidden planet.
dan friesen
I think he's saying there at the end that dinosaurs are fake.
jordan holmes
I think he just did say that.
dan friesen
I think he Eddie Bravo, this thing.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, he was doing the C.S. Lewis Off This Planet trilogy right there.
I don't know.
Oh, this coming dark.
Ah, goddammit.
I don't remember.
It's C.S. Lewis.
He wrote this series of science fiction novels which were weird.
Like, you know how the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe were thinly veiled.
Yeah, exactly.
This one is even more batshit.
And that's pretty much what he was just describing right there.
Okay.
But also, what the fuck was he just describing right there?
dan friesen
I'm not going to do this because that clip's really long, but I almost want to listen to it again.
jordan holmes
I kind of do too.
I still don't understand what it was.
dan friesen
So, so I'm going to play it back.
jordan holmes
It's not billions.
We're not billions of years old.
I think we can establish that.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Right?
So.
dan friesen
No, because he made that noise.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So even way back when people were genetically engineering the seed because there were giant people.
dan friesen
That would have been like 2,000 years ago.
jordan holmes
So there were giant people.
Then God gave the flood.
No, I think he is referencing the flood, which was only about 4,000 years ago.
dan friesen
But he's talking about the Elohim and what have you.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Not the Elohim.
jordan holmes
Which, again, in the Bible, is nowhere pointed out that there's Lucifer as a fallen angel.
There's no devil.
dan friesen
No, but there are a couple of verses that talk about angels came down and bred with human women, and it was an abomination.
jordan holmes
And sounds fucking sexy to me.
dan friesen
So there are a couple of weird verses in the Old Testament that could be metaphorical also, even within that non-button glom onto those and they're like, oh, this is proof of fucking giants.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Well, isn't there?
There's the references to terrible lizards, and that's why people say that dinosaurs were actually a short while ago.
dan friesen
Those giants are probably why we had the floods to begin with.
jordan holmes
They were too tall.
They were just too tall.
dan friesen
So he has a little bit more on this clip.
jordan holmes
If it had only rained for 39 days and 39 nights, they would still be right above the water.
They would still be able to breathe.
It was that last day.
dan friesen
They put their head up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
They had snorkels.
dan friesen
They can't tread water is the thing.
Much like globalists can't reproduce.
jordan holmes
True fact, if there's anything you take away from our podcast, it is that giants can't tread water.
dan friesen
Let's see what the rest of this clip is.
alex jones
Okay, and I'm telling you, the elite, they know the secrets.
I don't know them all.
I've just reverse engineered it, studied it, and read their writings, and watch what they're doing.
But either this is all true and they're completely insane or they're just completely insane.
I'm not saying I believe any of it.
jordan holmes
Or.
alex jones
But I know this.
They want to turn over Western society to a bunch of radical Islamic men because they hate Christianity and they hate women.
That's why they tell you all day how much they love women.
Because the globalists absolutely hate women.
dan friesen
Globalists hate women.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
Globalists hate women.
jordan holmes
Okay, so one.
Dinosaurs, only 6,000 years old.
dan friesen
Dinosaurs, because of that.
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Because of that, we know that Western society is opening its doors to Islam men because they hate Christianity and they hate women.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Says the guy who called a woman sweetcakes 45 fucking...
dan friesen
Aggressively to her face.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, like a fucking...
dan friesen
When she called him out on being drunk.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I hope.
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's the globalists that hate women.
jordan holmes
It's the globalists that hate women.
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, but like, I think that's fucking crazy.
But what I think is more important is that, like, I don't believe this.
That's what they believe.
You listen to that four minutes.
jordan holmes
So either.
dan friesen
Don't fucking tell me.
jordan holmes
The argument that he made was either they believe this and they're insane or they're just insane.
And at no point does he go like, or I'm maybe insane.
dan friesen
It's possible I've lost it.
jordan holmes
If he had one moment of clarity on his show, just one moment where he's like, holy shit, guys.
I don't know if I actually believe any of this.
dan friesen
I've gone native.
unidentified
I have no idea what's going on anymore.
jordan holmes
Hey, listen, Colonel Kurtz, he dead.
dan friesen
I am high on my own supply.
I don't fucking know anymore.
jordan holmes
Do not use this toothpaste.
Will drive you insane.
It's blue.
Isn't that a sign?
unidentified
I've tried to sell you crushed up bone pills when we realize I'm crazy.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
It's like he's seeing how far he can get before people are like uniformly like, shut the fuck up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be.
dan friesen
Oh, is there, is there high-performance trolling?
jordan holmes
That's that.
Is there any line?
Do you think there's any line?
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
There can't be.
If we're already past multiple dimensions, vampires are real.
Yeah.
Everybody's a pedophile.
dan friesen
Yeah, everyone who's not on his side.
unidentified
Yep.
jordan holmes
Globalists can't reproduce.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Dinosaurs, maybe not even real at all.
dan friesen
Maybe not.
jordan holmes
Giants.
Science fiction is how the globalists taught us technology from the devil.
What is there left to say?
I don't know.
dan friesen
Outright turning it into a Nazi organization.
jordan holmes
Really?
Because we're on the.
If not on the edge, no, we're way into Nazi organization.
dan friesen
Not really.
jordan holmes
You've already.
He just hasn't called himself a Nazi.
dan friesen
We're dog whistly at this point.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Like, I don't think I don't know how much of his audience would follow him if he was just like, guys, got to be honest, it's the Jews.
jordan holmes
You know what?
You're right.
dan friesen
You're right.
I think a good percentage would, but I think he'd lose.
unidentified
I think a pretty solid percentage would be a bigger percentage than we want.
jordan holmes
We would hope.
No, because, yeah, I think you're right.
Because he does go out of his way to be like, oh, what was it that he said that Trump was going to build factories in black areas?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, which isn't in that article.
jordan holmes
I don't know what it was that.
Is that a good thing?
dan friesen
Well, he's.
jordan holmes
I mean, he's insinuating that black people are going to work in these factories.
dan friesen
He's hearkening back to the idea that Trump knows that inner cities need more jobs and that will fix everything and that he's going to.
jordan holmes
Again, not just black people live in inner cities.
dan friesen
Very much true.
Also reductive in terms of what the actual issues are.
jordan holmes
And very racist on its own.
Yeah, on its face.
He's saying that he's a racial justice warrior when it's exactly what he's saying.
dan friesen
Joseph Watson would hate that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, P.J. Dubb's not a fan.
dan friesen
No.
But I can't get away from this.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
The argument that he's putting forth about satanic forces giving the globalists their information.
jordan holmes
The 1850s British globalists.
dan friesen
That they then fed to H.G. Wells.
Yes.
That's not what the globalists believe.
He believes that.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He believes that based on his quote-unquote research.
jordan holmes
His reverse engineering.
dan friesen
Which is okay.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But, like, he can't dodge that by saying, I don't believe this.
It's what they believe.
jordan holmes
No, that one's purely his.
And that's right.
If anything else is, that one's the one that we can point to that is, you really believe that insanity.
dan friesen
That's the craziest part of that last clip.
And if he tries to dodge the idea that, you know, satanic forces exist and they can influence people and these globalists.
jordan holmes
Draculas aren't real.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
He can't dodge that because it's in that clip.
alex jones
Yep.
dan friesen
He's literally saying he believes that Satan gives technological advances to the globalists.
alex jones
Yeah.
dan friesen
He has to believe that what they believe is real.
He has to.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or else I don't know what the other thing is.
jordan holmes
But it's a holy war.
That's what he's.
Just like that's implied.
Just like that's what you're fighting.
dan friesen
Not really.
jordan holmes
No.
Otherwise, you wouldn't have me on to giggle like a lunatic.
dan friesen
No, I'm just doing this to hang out with you.
I just like wine.
jordan holmes
That is the tagline to this podcast.
Knowledge fight.
We just like wine.
No, there's no way.
No.
There's no way around that.
That one's nuts.
He's in on it.
He's all in.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I have one more clip, and it's from about an hour and 40 minutes into Tuesday's episode.
jordan holmes
And about three and a half hours into this episode?
dan friesen
Yeah, this is where he finally gets into the article.
He finally gets into it.
jordan holmes
Finally got how many sentences bet.
Oh, no, actually, you don't.
You already know.
dan friesen
I do.
jordan holmes
I'm going to go with he manages to make it.
He interrupts in the first sentence.
He makes it total through four sentences maximum.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
Let's see.
alex jones
Let me hit some of this article.
I'll go over more of it with David.
dan friesen
Make no mistake.
I cut it before David Knight comes up.
jordan holmes
Thank God.
alex jones
Because the Kremlin is starting to worry about Trump.
And the article really doesn't say much about that.
It's more of just a communication of the world.
dan friesen
The article does actually say.
I'm sorry that I interrupted it, but it does say quite a bit about that.
alex jones
Exactly that.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Trump's for real, and he's super dangerous because he's real.
Now listen to this.
The last thing the Russian government expected was that 2017 would bring it face to face with not a revolution of the past because they say they're canceling the Bolshevik Revolution celebration for the first year anniversary.
Putin doesn't like it.
He says it's bad.
They twist that and say because Putin's afraid of revolutions.
jordan holmes
No.
unidentified
Wait, did we read any of the actual article?
dan friesen
I read that first paragraph that was talking about the Bolshevik Revolution and the 100-year thing.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I mean, him just now.
dan friesen
I think he read about a sentence.
jordan holmes
And then he interrupted with his own commentary.
unidentified
Boom!
jordan holmes
One point for Jordan.
alex jones
Putin was a secret acolyte of Alexander Shelts and Etsy, and that's all.
dan friesen
That cannot be true.
alex jones
Admitted now.
And doesn't like communism and what the West did to Russia.
And he wants Russia to become a superpower and be strong and free markets.
They have people getting married, having kids, Christian, anti-globalists.
They're banning the tranny bathrooms, okay?
dan friesen
They're all fucking.
jordan holmes
Great.
Hey, how about fuck you?
dan friesen
You know what else they're doing?
You know what else they're doing?
They're making it not a crime to beat your wife.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
I saw that.
unidentified
Cool.
jordan holmes
That's awesome.
dan friesen
Good to see you.
jordan holmes
Take that, globalists.
dan friesen
Good job, Christian.
jordan holmes
All of these globalists making it illegal to beat your wife.
dan friesen
Yeah, great.
jordan holmes
Spare the rod.
Spoil the wife.
alex jones
They're the opposite of Hollywood.
And Hollywood knows it.
Christianity's coming back there.
It's real.
And all the Cold War brainwashers don't want people to believe the proof of what's happening.
And Soros has been trying to overthrow it desperately.
So the last thing Russian government expects in 2017 would bring it face to face, not with the revolution of the past, but with a revolution of the present.
The radical regime change taking place in the United States as a result of the electoral victory of Donald Trump.
It is Trump's electoral revolution that has captured the imagination and fanned the fears of Russian elites.
That's not true.
They're breaking completely with this whole free market model.
jordan holmes
I think that was five sentences.
dan friesen
No, there wasn't.
jordan holmes
You don't think so?
Well, I know he transitioned into the words of the article because those were not his words.
dan friesen
No, it might have been like three sentences.
jordan holmes
It might have been three sentences.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
But then he's like, that's not true.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
alex jones
And embracing it.
jordan holmes
Two points for Jordan.
alex jones
Now, now it gets into the truth, though.
They go on to say Trump isn't narcissistic and mentally ill.
He's actually a hardcore revolutionary that believes in Americanism.
Listen to this.
The search for a key to Trump's mind-boggling and miscellaneous gusher of policies.
It's not miscellaneous.
It's all targeted to free the people.
Go back.
Sorry.
The search for a key to Trump's mind-boggling and miscellaneous guster of policy directives has tended to focus on his disturbingly erratic, vindictive, simplistic, narcissistic, insecure, and occasionally delusional personality.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a really good idea.
alex jones
I'm not going to say that's not the case.
Exception being made for those conspiracy theorists who treat him as a kind of Manchurian candidate or sock puppet of the Kremlin.
Like Alex.
They're saying he's not a Russian agent.
He's worse.
Get ready.
dan friesen
The CIA didn't write this.
alex jones
What most observers have been late to recognize is the extent to which, behind his mask as a showman, Trump views himself as a revolutionary insurgent with a mission to dismantle America's old regime.
And that's the secret.
And they go on and say, Russia, they're going to decently dismantle you.
He means it.
He means it.
Come on, come on.
You don't really want to do this, do you?
He's going to take over.
It's like selling snow cones in hell to promote freedom over the globalists.
Everybody wants one.
jordan holmes
Wait, snow cones in hell to free the globalists?
To free yourself from the globalists.
Everybody wants one.
dan friesen
It's like selling snowballs in hell in order to, like, to...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Okay, now I get the metaphor.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So one of the things that's important is the quote that he was reading was correct, but the important word there, I think, is views.
And that is that Trump views himself as a revolutionary insurgent.
jordan holmes
Do you really think he does?
Possibly.
I don't think he views himself as anything other than a big ball of small Trump's wearing a big Trump suit.
dan friesen
But I mean, it could be generous, perhaps.
But the article goes on to say Trump's tactics certainly belong in the classic revolutionary playbook.
His shock and awe style of executive action is designed to rattle Congress, catch his opponents unprepared, and incite his base to wage war on the establishment.
That's a fair assessment.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Likes to keep people on their toes.
jordan holmes
I mean, not a lot of revolutionaries are dealing with Congress.
Like, Shea Guevara wasn't like, oh, I'm going to get that Congress.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But when he says that the article is called The Kremlin is starting to be worried about Trump, he's like, they don't talk about that at all.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
They do.
jordan holmes
I'm sure Russia never talks about the American government ever.
dan friesen
Why would they?
jordan holmes
What would they have to talk about?
dan friesen
Russian policymakers, obsessed as they are with the fear of color revolutions, may understand better than Americans and Europeans the radical nature of political change that has descended on Washington.
The article goes on to describe Lenin and the revolution that the Germans allowed to go on with the Bolsheviks.
Yep.
And how the conversations with Russian policymakers and experts indicate they are starting to have similar fears and doubts today about the revolution that Trump is going on with.
Blah, blah, blah, blah.
Let me scroll down here.
They were celebrating Trump winning the election.
jordan holmes
Of course they were.
dan friesen
Now that Trump is in power, political elites in Moscow have stopped cheering.
jordan holmes
I believe that.
dan friesen
They recognize that Russia's position has become abruptly and agonizingly complex.
It's true that Trump's ascension opens up the possibility of normalizing Russia's relations with the West, beginning with a reduction or even elimination of sanctions.
It also validates a lot of Russia's ideological criticisms of the liberal order and may perhaps foreshadow policy reversals that Moscow has long hoped for, such as the Cold War alliance breaking up and disentanglement to the US.
jordan holmes
Do you know what I didn't consider until just now while you were reading that?
That this is boring?
No, no, no, not that this is boring, although you did say that off-Mike.
I don't know if you guys heard that.
He just told me that this was boring.
No, I didn't consider.
I'm a policy won't.
Yeah, we've got to get into this.
I didn't actually consider that maybe at this point Russia is thinking, this is going to blow up in our fucking faces.
dan friesen
That's kind of what this article is about.
jordan holmes
They have to be thinking that, right?
Like, just looking at what's going on in our country, like, Flynn going down has to be the one where they're like, we did not see that coming.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That is a big, oh, shit moment for them.
dan friesen
But Trump's revolution is also ushering in a period of turmoil and uncertainty, including the likelihood of self-defeating trade wars.
Still traumatized by the disintegration of the Soviet Union, Russia's present leadership has no appetite for global instability.
jordan holmes
I don't think they are doing a great job of avoiding global instability considering what they're doing right now.
dan friesen
This gets into a little bit later about how because Trump is erratic and unpredictable, it's taking away that as a tool that Putin can use.
That's a good point.
Because he was the one who would go around normal traditions and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And now he can't use that as heavy a punch.
jordan holmes
He created a monster.
dan friesen
Well, because.
jordan holmes
And it turns out he can't control the monster unless he actually.
So that kind of really then puts into question whether or not he really has black male material on Trump.
Because right now, it's not going his way.
dan friesen
I mean, maybe not in the short term.
jordan holmes
Well, we haven't lifted the sanctions yet, have we?
No, no, no.
dan friesen
So do you think that would be a calamity?
unidentified
I.
jordan holmes
I don't.
Yeah, there's no way we wind up doing that.
dan friesen
No, I don't know.
jordan holmes
No.
So the stated objective for Putin, I think, not stated objective.
It's in the white papers.
Everybody knows it.
You guys don't read it, but I read it, and I'm going to report it to you.
The assumed objective we have for Putin, that idea, is to create that instability in America.
That way he can dismantle or at least pick a part at the EU.
That will give him the opening to then create trade agreements outside of the EU.
dan friesen
The only possible endgame is creating chaos in our political system.
jordan holmes
And then retaking the Soviet Union because Putin's really just kind of nostalgic.
dan friesen
But that's almost exactly what we speculated 10 episodes back.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
That's what we're thinking.
Now, based on what you're reading right now, it seems like that's not going according to plan at all.
dan friesen
Possibly.
Possibly.
I don't know.
Anyway, I want to get through this because I hate reading.
jordan holmes
And I want you to hang out in which you share a solid quality with our patron saint, Alex J.
unidentified
Yeah, but I do it if I'm going to talk about an article.
dan friesen
That's the difference.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
So when he talked about them announcing that they're going to kill Trump, the only thing I can base that on is this next line.
Okay.
What the Kremlin fears most today is that Trump may be ousted or even killed.
That's the only line that has anything to do with it.
And I don't think that they're saying they're worried that that's going to happen.
It's just that that would be a bad outcome for them.
jordan holmes
It would be a bad outcome.
And they should be worried.
dan friesen
His ouster, Kremlin insiders argue, is bound to unleash a virulent and bipartisan anti-Russian campaign in Washington.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
Oddly, therefore, Putin has become a hostage to Trump's survival and success.
This seriously restricted Russia's geopolitical options.
The Kremlin is perfectly aware that Democrats want to use Russia to discredit and possibly impeach Trump, while Republican elites want to use Russia to deflate and discipline Trump.
The Russian government fears not only Trump's downfall, of course, but also the possibility that he could opportunistically switch to a tough anti-Moscow line in order to make peace with the hawkish Republican leaders in Congress.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ.
dan friesen
That's what's in this article.
jordan holmes
And that is brilliant.
That is, wow.
No matter how much I think about foreign policy, which I do kind of really think about it a lot, it's constantly reminding me that this game is so ridiculously complex.
dan friesen
Now consider this.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Trump's presidency has also complicated Moscow's relations with China and Iran.
jordan holmes
Chi comms.
dan friesen
Moscow is interested in normalization with the West, but not at the cost of joining a Washington-led anti-China coalition, which Trump seems insistent on creating.
jordan holmes
He really wants it.
dan friesen
Moreover, Putin's Russia hosts up to 20 million Muslims and therefore cannot indulge in the radical anti-Islam rhetoric adopted by Trump.
jordan holmes
Holy shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is fucking chaos.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
So if it so now we're lucky, now we're looking at if Russia.
So they did have an influence on the election.
There's no denying that.
dan friesen
Yes, but this article, even whenever they're talking about that, talk about they make it very clear that it's unclear what kind of definitive role they played or if the influence that they had was decisive.
jordan holmes
And that's agreed.
But that did have some role.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
Whether or not it was a deciding role or whatever.
dan friesen
This article would argue that Putin was mostly against the idea of Hillary because she was against his actions in Ukraine.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
And that is what.
jordan holmes
Well, she would have been really tough on Russia.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Almost aggressively so, to maybe our detriment.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's hard to say whether being too lax or too strict is the worst thing.
jordan holmes
Well, and as we can see from this fucking article, who the goddamn hell knows what's going to happen when you push a little button.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because now there are 10 million different scenarios that might wind up happening.
And I agree.
Which it seems inevitable that Trump will be impeached in some fashion or another.
And it will almost certainly be because of his ties to Russia, which means that Russia will be our biggest bad guy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's red dawn.
We're fighting red dawn.
That's what's happening right now.
dan friesen
I mean, I don't know.
I haven't done a ton of research into it, but there were stories coming out today of Russian fighter planes buzzing our ships and stuff like that.
I think that's not wargame stuff, but it's like it's testing.
It is.
It's wagon dick at least.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
Which is a bad idea if you're Russia.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't want that to be the end result, but I think if we could all just go back to a maintaining of what was going on three months ago, maybe it would be pretty cool.
jordan holmes
How crazy is it that to think?
Oh, man.
That's so much like the declassified information.
I don't know if it's declassified, but it's information that's now out, where there was a U.S. military training exercise that showed up on Russia's intelligence reports as being exactly like what would happen if America was launching a first strike.
So they sent the order, we're retaliating.
And it was because of one dude on the button, basically, who was like, let's hold back and wait that we don't have a massive nuclear war.
And it was really that one guy.
Like, you go back, he got a medal and thrown into Siberia, never to be heard from again.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's weird how close we can come somewhere.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So it seems like that is that same kind of smoking gun right there where it is.
dan friesen
We're one pussy hair away from destruction all the time.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, let me wrap up this article.
jordan holmes
I love nuclear weapons.
It's so great that they're in the world.
dan friesen
Boy, we shouldn't have created those.
Yeah.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
All about Shuddha.
dan friesen
This actually is pretty interesting.
It ends pretty interestingly.
Anyone who spends any time in Moscow will quickly discover that ordinary Russians, in contrast with a majority of Europeans, feel surprisingly positive about Trump.
One reason is that they're exhausted at Russia's confrontation with the West.
Another is that they share Trump's cynical, borderline, apocalyptic view of international politics.
Like Trump, they never believed in win-win politics in the first place.
Most interestingly of all, they readily compare Trump to an early Boris Yeltsin, impulsive, charismatic, trusting only of his family, and ready to bomb the parliament if that works to cement his hold on power.
The problem for the Kremlin is that Yeltsin was a revolutionary leader, and Putin has decided to make 2017 a year for deploring, not celebrating revolutions.
Which goes back to the beginning of the article when he's talking about the Bolshevik revolutions, which is just good writing.
To tie the end back to the beginning of when you're talking foreign policy stuff and it's kind of you're in the weeds, a little bit like that article is the ability to bring the end back to the beginning.
First of all, I tip my hat.
That's good writing, yeah.
And then second, I mean, like when you know, when he says that, like it's deploring, obviously that's a little bit of a tip of the cap.
Deplorable yeah, so that, but that's just a stylish flair.
jordan holmes
I that's a very well written piece.
I that that avoids.
My most hated thing that happens in news right now, especially opinion bullshit, is when somebody talks about populism.
At no point in time does that article ever go with And Train And Trump's own particular brand of populism or whatever.
It is right right, because that's the laziest, dumbest thing you can say.
Yeah, it's a shortcut, for you're an idiot.
And that article is just well researched, point by point.
dan friesen
It has really good analysis and it has nothing to do with the things that says it does.
jordan holmes
It's great writing, that's really good.
So who's the writer of that?
Let's cite him.
dan friesen
Uh, this was.
jordan holmes
You'd find it in uh, Foreign Policy uh magazine don't search foreign affairs, no matter what Alex Jones tells you came out two days ago.
dan friesen
It was written by Ivan Krastov and Stephen Holmes.
Uh, any relation?
jordan holmes
No okay, but yeah, good job, guys.
Yeah, from from the bottom of our tiny, tiny podcast's heart.
Yeah, good work.
dan friesen
Yeah, so I mean, you know this is just yet another example of you know him.
Taking a source, he created an entire special report yeah, to try and distract from the fact that Flynn was way out of line.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is why 2k all over again.
dan friesen
He took a news story that didn't say what he said it said and then used it as a deflection from his main man, Michael Flynn having to resign.
So he didn't have to talk about that.
Yeah, except to lie about the transcripts and what Michael Flynn actually did.
jordan holmes
He was an in, he was too genuine.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he creates this sensationalized thing.
jordan holmes
He stepped down not because he was maybe doing anything wrong right, but because he's a martyr for the cause.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he manages to talk about uh, this without talking about it for 35, 40 minutes in the special report right, manages to string a whole fucking show along about it without actually getting into it.
Yep, meanwhile telling us that science fiction is an illusion, 100 from Satan.
From Satan fantasizing about Draculas and lasciviously talking about pornographers and child murderers and how, if you're not on his side, you're for them.
It's all insanity.
jordan holmes
He threw as much like, imagine there's a bullseye on one side of your wall, like a dartboard, with Michael Flynn's face on it, right?
Now, turn 180 degrees and throw all of the spaghetti you've ever seen in your entire life at the wall and just hope people don't look at that fucking dartboard.
dan friesen
The evidence that he's not crazy is that, I mean, I don't know how you'd pull that level of not dealing with it off if you were crazy.
jordan holmes
Denial.
dan friesen
Yeah, you have to be like, you have to be intentionally dodging shit or else.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's right.
dan friesen
I don't know.
Anyway, Jordan, this has been fun.
Trip through Tuesday's events on the InfoWars website because it wasn't just the Alex Jones show today.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Special report.
jordan holmes
Special report.
dan friesen
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People can check out knowledgefight.tumbler.com.
jordan holmes
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Give us a review.
dan friesen
You can send us an email if you think we're dumb.
jordan holmes
LibTardCucks over at KnowledgeFight at gmail.com.
dan friesen
And if you are a satanic off-world entity and you want to tell me about a new machine.
jordan holmes
Dude, we want to hear that shit.
dan friesen
I know this is a science fiction writer.
jordan holmes
I need a book idea.
I need something.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
So if a satanic being wants to tell me about a machine, I will tell Jordan about it.
He'll write a book about it and we'll get there.
jordan holmes
We'll get it done.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, Jordan, this has been fun.
jordan holmes
As always.
dan friesen
We'll catch you next time.
But until then.
jordan holmes
We're policy wonks.
unidentified
Just a couple of fucking policy wonks.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas.
You're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
jordan holmes
Hello, Alex.
unidentified
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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