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Feb. 16, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#13: February 14, 2017

Today, Dan tells Jordan all about what happened with Alex Jones on Feb 14, 2017. Topics include: Did Alex recently read Dracula? Is Gen. Flynn's issue that he's just too great? Can Globalists reproduce? Is science fiction a conspiracy?

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alex jones
28:43
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dan friesen
01:03:28
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jordan holmes
54:45
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alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I am Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
dan friesen
This is a podcast wherein I have watched way too much Infowars and Alex Jones, and I sit down over a nice glass of wine with my friend Jordan.
jordan holmes
Who giggles like a fucking maniac every time Alex Jones speaks.
dan friesen
He is nuts.
I'm not talking about you.
No.
jordan holmes
Well, eventually I will be.
dan friesen
I've been thinking about this.
I know that in our early episodes you speculated that we would find an understanding of Alex or that you would start to empathize with him.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I've got to be honest.
I'm starting to hate him.
I used to be sort of amused or at least curious.
jordan holmes
I think I hate him.
Oh, boy.
My feelings about him are so very complicated.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
There's a raw physical attraction.
dan friesen
There's no doubt about it.
It's that super male vitality.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Whoa, you got way too excited about what just happened.
dan friesen
I don't have a clip of this, but InfoWars has a new product out.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
It's called Caveman.
jordan holmes
No!
No!
dan friesen
You know what it is?
jordan holmes
I just hope it's a big slab of meat.
dan friesen
No, better.
Ground up bones.
jordan holmes
Of an actual caveman?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Did they break into the Chicago Museum?
dan friesen
I'll be honest, I wasn't fully listening to the commercial, but he was explaining how animals will go after bones first, because they want to get the marrow, and all the stuff around the...
jordan holmes
I'm on board so far.
dan friesen
So they take bones.
jordan holmes
Where's the hammer drop?
unidentified
They take bones, and they grind them up, and they put it in a pill, and they sell it to you.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That makes the least sense of anything I've ever heard.
dan friesen
I think that's what the product is.
jordan holmes
That is legit the best way for a serial killer to disseminate a body, right?
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
You can't catch a serial killer who's Grinding up people into pills.
dan friesen
And I don't know if the FDA has got to get involved.
I'm not sure about that.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, with the lax protection laws for vitamins, they're good.
dan friesen
But look, that was just announced on Wednesday's show.
So this is breaking.
This is huge.
We'll learn more as time goes on.
Jordan, today, the reason that we had to do this episode, I know we had an episode come out yesterday about John Rappaport and the mental health scare of the world and how college campuses are blah blah blah blah.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
Johnny Rapps hiding in the bushes.
dan friesen
Like a Batman.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Lurking.
Lurking.
dan friesen
Like a Batman.
jordan holmes
Lurking.
dan friesen
But we had to get back together and record another episode because in the time between when we recorded the Rappaport episode and it dropped, Mike Flynn.
General Flynn.
jordan holmes
That's right.
dan friesen
Resigned.
jordan holmes
Finally stepped down.
And we knew- One of the fastest in history, which is just beautiful.
dan friesen
Yeah, so fast.
jordan holmes
We're living in perfectly normal times.
That's what's happening right there.
dan friesen
Yeah, but we knew that Alex was going to have a response to it.
We knew that he was going to- He loves General Flynn.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, General Flynn has been on board since the very beginning, so I'm assuming that- He tweets InfoWars links.
dan friesen
Like, he's- Like, the two of them- I'm certain that Alex has talked to him.
I'm certain that the two of them have had conversations.
jordan holmes
I agree.
dan friesen
And unlike...
jordan holmes
Where else is Flynn gonna get his fucking super male vitality from?
dan friesen
Or ground up bones.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Whoa, hold on.
Flynn has his own supply of ground up bones.
dan friesen
That's entirely possible.
jordan holmes
He does not need anybody else's ground up bones.
dan friesen
But, so...
What was I...
Look.
jordan holmes
He retired.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Quote, unquote, retired in ignominy.
dan friesen
He decided to go start a farm or something like that.
And we'll look at his future career with considerable enthusiasm.
I lost my train of thought, but we knew that Alex was going to be losing it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Oh, this was my thought.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Last week, Alex, all he was talking about is like, I got inside information, Reince Priebus.
Who he calls Reince Priebus is going down.
He's a snake in the grass.
jordan holmes
Priebus and Butthead.
dan friesen
He keeps saying that Priebus is the one who's leaking that Trump is wandering around in his bathrobe and shit like that.
He's trying to embarrass the president because he's a Paul Ryan acolyte who is actually funded by George Soros.
jordan holmes
Wow.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
That is some complex deep state shit right there.
dan friesen
It's amazing.
So for the whole last week, he's been like, Priebus is going down.
Priebus is going down.
I'm going to break it for you on Monday.
Not on Monday.
He's like, today and tomorrow, we're going to get into the leakers.
Tuesday, fucking Flynn is out, baby.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Priebus, still there.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
He had to have defended Flynn and been like, he will stay in the office, right?
dan friesen
What do you mean?
jordan holmes
I mean, because that was happening all over the place where the day before Flynn resigned...
People were being like, nah, he's still going to stay in there.
This is completely unstable.
It's all fake news and yadda yadda yadda yadda.
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Because anything that's negative, Alex doesn't talk about.
jordan holmes
Oh, he doesn't talk about it at all.
dan friesen
So when there's inconvenient stuff, he just doesn't talk about, like, he'll talk about the leaks and the inside sources that he has, but when there's a source that's probably telling him, like, two days, three days ahead of time, like, man, Flynn's probably out.
He's not going to talk about that on the air.
jordan holmes
Really?
So he's not going to talk about it at all?
dan friesen
No, because it busts his narrative.
jordan holmes
That's it.
Well, but his narrative is now...
dan friesen
But the truth is he doesn't actually have sources.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no kidding.
dan friesen
We've established that most of this stuff comes from callers and from people who direct message Paul Joseph Watson on Twitter.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
As evidence, concrete examples of that.
jordan holmes
You know, I can still, however, imagine late night phone calls from Trump to Alex Jones just like...
I thought I was going to get more people support.
unidentified
Dude.
jordan holmes
I'm so sorry.
dan friesen
Dude, I thought they liked me.
jordan holmes
Alex, Alex, why don't they like me anymore?
unidentified
Hey, I don't know, but I got some ground-up bone pills.
dan friesen
If you want to take them, make you feel great.
jordan holmes
I don't need your ground-up bone pills.
You know I have my own.
dan friesen
You don't know what you got until you don't have...
You know what I'm getting at.
unidentified
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Until you don't have bones.
dan friesen
I tuned in.
On Tuesday.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
To find out what the skinny was.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And let me tell you what I found.
jordan holmes
The flinny?
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
Okay, never mind.
dan friesen
Alex Jones went on air before his broadcast because he needed to make an emergency fucking signal, bat signal flying.
unidentified
What?
Yeah.
dan friesen
He put out an emergency broadcast before his four-hour show.
unidentified
Okay.
He put out a 40-minute...
jordan holmes
But where did it air?
Did it air on...
dan friesen
Infowars.com, my friend.
jordan holmes
No way!
dan friesen
And on their YouTube channel, and it's...
What we're mostly going to be dealing with is this emergency broadcast.
jordan holmes
The 40-minute emergency broadcast.
dan friesen
And here's why I'm gonna...
jordan holmes
Is it a drill?
dan friesen
It is not a drill.
jordan holmes
It's not a drill?
dan friesen
This is not Jade Helm.
jordan holmes
This is an emergency broadcast.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
The reason that we're gonna cover this more than the actual episode itself is because the actual episode...
Is super repetitive.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And he's just hitting talking points over and over and over again.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's not that entertaining.
jordan holmes
But that's how you fight a scandal there, is you just...
Just hammer this repetitive...
dan friesen
Put your heels in the mud.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Put your head underground and just go, la, la, la, la, la, la, la.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So he does that on his show for Tuesday and really Wednesday.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There has not been a whole lot of substance.
But in this clip, this emergency broadcast that just went out to the faithfuls on his...
On his own network, as opposed to being broadcast on all of the AM stations in bumfuck Virginia, or whatever.
Then here, he gets weird.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
So this is pure, concentrated Alex Jones bullshit right here.
dan friesen
This shit is worth it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
So that's what we're going to be talking about.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
dan friesen
Here's his first clip.
This is how he decides to open the broadcast and get to the central thing we should all be afraid about.
alex jones
It's Tuesday, February 14th, 2017.
And I'm about to go live with my syndicated radio slash TV broadcast in about an hour and eight minutes.
jordan holmes
Dude, we know.
alex jones
At InfoWars.com forward slash show.
But I had to come in early to break down.
dan friesen
I want to say really quick, too.
I didn't lengthen any of these pauses.
I didn't.
These are his natural rhythms, how he wants to get this emergency message out.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
As slowly as possible.
The clip has started again, by the way.
alex jones
Some absolute critical information.
The reason this is so important is that I have studied the deep state for 30 years.
I've been politically active for 25, as you know, been on air over 21 years.
I've really studied the deep set data.
I've written books on it, made films about it.
If you go back and read those books and watch those films made 15, 16, 17, 18, 20 years ago, it's like prescient.
It all came true.
Well, I wasn't prescient.
The globalists laid out their plan.
They have the Grammys and the enemies and all the big TV shows that are for the general public that is dumbed down disinformation.
In certain publications, like Foreign Affairs put out by the Washington Post, and basically a mirror of the Council on Foreign Relations, Foreign Affairs quarterly publication or bimonthly publication, they actually tell you what they're doing.
And in two different articles in Foreign Affairs that came out yesterday, they basically said the establishment is just looking at killing Trump.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Now, this isn't some Hollywood producer saying it.
This isn't some singer or Hollywood person saying it.
jordan holmes
Nope.
alex jones
This is...
unidentified
Jesus.
jordan holmes
Our Lord and Savior.
alex jones
The establishment.
jordan holmes
Oh, damn it!
I was so close!
alex jones
As a total threat to Trump, roll over or you're dead.
dan friesen
So here is where we finally understand one of the things that's been plaguing us for a really long time.
What the fuck is he talking about when he talks about white papers?
jordan holmes
Yes!
That is exactly what I've...
I assumed it was like...
dan friesen
You assumed everyone knew.
jordan holmes
I assumed everybody knew, yeah.
So I didn't want to be the one to ask.
unidentified
Of course.
jordan holmes
I would just assume, like, newspapers?
dan friesen
That's part of it.
jordan holmes
What's red and black and the white papers?
I think that's how that old rhyme goes.
dan friesen
You got the funny papers and you got the white papers.
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And in both of them, the globalists are speaking to us.
dan friesen
Indeed.
Do you ever read Heathcliff?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
A shill for the Illuminati.
jordan holmes
Foxtrot?
dan friesen
Heathcliff lived in a fucking dumpster.
Not a dumpster.
He lived in a junkyard, right?
unidentified
He was a cat.
dan friesen
He was a junkyard cat.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's right.
dan friesen
That's a dystopian Agenda 21 future.
jordan holmes
Right, well, and that's what Obama was trying to do, is move us all, and our cats, into the junkyard.
dan friesen
They're trying to make my cat Celine eat cat bones.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
I'm gonna grind him up first, give it to her in pill form.
So, the papers are part of it.
And I'm not saying that whenever he says white papers what he's talking about is this, but one of the things he is referring to is he says foreign affairs, the journal he's actually talking about is called Foreign Policy.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And it's a publication...
jordan holmes
Foreign Policy, I know that one.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I know that one exists.
The other one that he mentioned...
dan friesen
Foreign Affairs by the Washington Post?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Wait, oh, that was by the Washington...
Oh, man.
dan friesen
No.
He's not...
He corrects himself later.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
But he's talking about foreign policy, and all that is...
It's a little bit of a denser news site.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It's not really...
But it's where the Council on Foreign Relations puts out what they're going to do.
It's where they get their dirt out.
jordan holmes
But did they say they were going to kill Trump?
Nope.
unidentified
But...
dan friesen
We're going to get to it.
jordan holmes
How do you get to say that?
Like, they put it out in public, they just do it, and what they're saying is they're going to kill Trump.
dan friesen
Well, here is where we're gonna...
jordan holmes
Is he being literal or figurative?
dan friesen
I think he's being literal.
jordan holmes
I think he's being literal.
dan friesen
Here are the two conclusions that I've had to come to...
And you know how I was saying I hate him at the beginning of the show?
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I have to temper that with, again, a little bit of pity.
jordan holmes
Deep-seated...
dan friesen
Pity?
jordan holmes
Manimal love.
dan friesen
I'm gonna go with pity.
unidentified
Okay, alright, alright.
dan friesen
Because I think that he lacks the ability to comprehend what he's reading.
Sometimes.
jordan holmes
Oh.
Oh, boy, that gets us, again, that gets us back to the stupid, evil continuum.
dan friesen
He's either completely lying about these sources he's citing, or he doesn't understand what they're saying.
Or, there's a third possibility that I think is more likely.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
He might have a slight paranoid schizophrenia.
unidentified
Ooh!
jordan holmes
Oh, man!
dan friesen
That's a really good question.
But throughout the course of this episode, We're going to start to see him reading a ton of things into stuff that just literally isn't there.
jordan holmes
Holy shit.
dan friesen
So the foreign policy article that he's citing, first of all, doesn't say in any way suggest that people should kill Trump.
jordan holmes
No.
That's probably a prosecutable offense, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I would say putting it in a major publication that you want to kill Trump.
dan friesen
It also doesn't say any of the things that he later says it says.
But also...
The idea that there is a magazine called Foreign Policy that for 20 years, or however long it's been out in existence, has been putting the Illuminati's playbook out there into the public, and for 20 years Alex Jones has been on the air yelling about it.
unidentified
No, no, no. 30 years.
dan friesen
20 years on the air.
jordan holmes
He's been hit for 30. 20 years on the air, but he's been onto it for 30 years.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
How old is he?
He's like 42 or something, like 43. So yeah, so since the man, let's just call it the moment he...
dan friesen
Popped a pube.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Pee to pee.
jordan holmes
He was so afraid of pubic hair, he immediately went directly to foreignpolicy.com.
dan friesen
Well, if you listen to him tell stories about his childhood, I think his dad might have had some of that paranoia in him too.
jordan holmes
Really?
I don't know, because even if we go back to our Y2K episode, he was super paranoid.
That was full-on lunacy, right?
But it was different.
You have to have had, like, you would have had a psychotic break.
dan friesen
I think he is.
jordan holmes
Right now.
You think we're finally watching the full-on break from reality?
dan friesen
I think as more reality starts to seep in and more people like Flynn, End up getting indicted.
jordan holmes
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
Because Flynn very well might be going to prison.
jordan holmes
He should.
He should.
dan friesen
There's strong indications he's straight up lied to the FBI.
jordan holmes
No, there's indications.
They're not strong indications.
They're actual.
They're factual.
dan friesen
We can say that from information that we have heard from sources we've decided to trust.
In the media.
jordan holmes
You know what?
That's a really good point.
Because a lot of the information that we are relying on is released by the intelligence community.
dan friesen
God bless.
jordan holmes
And they are and have never been trustworthy.
dan friesen
You have to take things with a grain of salt.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're full of shit.
dan friesen
It doesn't look good.
jordan holmes
It does have that ring of because...
Trump and Flynn talk shit about the intelligence community that they're like, okay, fine.
dan friesen
Goes back to the code of the street.
Talk shit, get hit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
But that also makes you think about all of the shit that Barack did that seemed so out of character for what he really believed, like what you would imagine he did.
Maybe, you know.
He seems like a guy with compassion and who, you know, wouldn't want to go crazy town on whistleblowers and Yemen, you know, all of those things.
So you start to see all of this shit come out and how quickly these guys are being destroyed.
And you're like, wonder what they had on Barack.
dan friesen
Huh.
jordan holmes
Because I bet they had something.
dan friesen
Yeah, that he, his, Frank Marshall Davis was his dad.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
His mom was a CIA pornographer.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
He was made in a test tube.
unidentified
All true.
dan friesen
He was a gay gentleman and a crack addict who has a transgendered wife.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
These are all theories that Alex has pitched.
jordan holmes
What if he just really was a secret Muslim?
dan friesen
That's it.
jordan holmes
That's it.
dan friesen
Well, remember how pissed off people were when he smoked?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
God, remember when we were mad at smoking?
dan friesen
It's insane.
jordan holmes
Remember when we were mad at smoking instead of light treason?
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Weren't those the days?
dan friesen
Speaking of that light treason.
jordan holmes
Somehow we became Archie Bunker here, just sitting in the occupied Illinois bunker.
dan friesen
Just drinking Boone's Farm.
jordan holmes
Because we don't deserve nice things.
dan friesen
No.
So this next clip, he gets into the situation with Flynn and his interpretation of it.
When he's done, we can see if we agree.
jordan holmes
All right.
alex jones
Now, I'm going to get into General Flynn, but of course, ladies and gentlemen, his resignation is only going to put blood in the water.
Now, CNN, Flynn's resignation doesn't end controversy surrounding White House.
General Flynn led the movement with other military leaders to say no to backing al-Qaeda and then ISIS and al-Nasra in Syria in the killing of hundreds of thousands of people.
It was a great moral moment for our military and our intelligence agencies.
They finally hit bottom and decided to not follow criminal orders that they've been following for decades.
unidentified
Follow.
alex jones
A real come-to-Jesus moment.
And so Trump knows about all this, brought in Flynn.
They've released the communiques that Flynn supposedly made, which were not secret.
He's the national security advisor in waiting of the elected president at that time, December 15th.
Who was the president-elect setting up the phone calls with world leaders working around the clock for the new agenda.
jordan holmes
Against the law.
alex jones
And they've released the CIA State Department, you know, transcripts of what was said.
The Russian ambassador, who he's supposed to talk to.
That's what the president's national security advisor does.
Well, I'm not going to get into sanctions with you, but you know the president wants to open things up and wants to have a clean slate.
So he repeated what Trump had said at press conferences and tweets.
He said the president's policy.
The president can meet with the Russians.
The president can sign treaties.
Then we see if Congress ratifies.
The president, we elected him.
He's not a goddamn Russian spy when he talks to the Russians.
jordan holmes
That sounds like exactly what a Russian spy would say.
dan friesen
But he's also conflating the truth.
jordan holmes
Well, you're not president until you're president.
dan friesen
Your intermediaries are citizens until you're in office and they're sworn in to their positions.
He's a private citizen talking to the Russian ambassador.
Alex just straight up lied.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he did just straight up lie.
dan friesen
He said that the communiques have been released.
They haven't.
As of this recording, they absolutely haven't.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But from sources who have listened to them, they all say that he was very explicit talking about sanctions.
One source even said it is impossible that he wouldn't remember talking about it.
The entire phone call was about it.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
dan friesen
The second lie is that someone was tapping Flynn's phone and spying on him.
They were...
Tapping the Russians' phones!
jordan holmes
No, I actually...
No, they actually have always monitored those...
That's the thing that came out that I think was underreported there.
dan friesen
But they are supposed to be listening to the Russians.
jordan holmes
But they're not...
dan friesen
Why wouldn't they be?
jordan holmes
They're listening to us.
They're listening to the American Communications.
dan friesen
I hope they're listening to this podcast.
jordan holmes
That would be interesting.
dan friesen
Get us some ratings.
jordan holmes
We're big at the CIA.
dan friesen
If spies start listening, that's a download.
jordan holmes
That is a download.
That's right.
dan friesen
Sorry I interrupted that.
jordan holmes
No, they are listening to American Communications as well.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You have to, because...
dan friesen
But that doesn't necessarily have to be true that it was some sneaky spying on Flynn thing.
It's very plausible that they were spying on these Russians.
jordan holmes
Well, it's more plausible that they just collected all of those.
Like, the stories that you read are...
They heard...
They saw that Russia wasn't retaliating, which seems so out of character for them.
And they were surprised by that to the point where they were just like, oh, well, let's just go...
Dig back through this length of time to see what may have been.
dan friesen
To see who was communicating with high-end Russians.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
And that's whenever they caught up on those tapes, on those communiques.
Now, the interesting thing about...
dan friesen
I don't think that's the case.
jordan holmes
You don't think so?
dan friesen
I think they were listening in real time.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That's how I imagine it.
jordan holmes
No, they were not listening in real time.
dan friesen
Real to real.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I was going to say, you're talking about a Cold War spy movie right there.
dan friesen
I'm imagining he's like FBI agents, and they're like, keep him on the phone, keep him on the phone.
jordan holmes
We have to have him on the phone for 60 seconds, otherwise we won't get a trace.
dan friesen
Yeah, we've got his location pinned down.
Yeah, exactly.
That's kind of where...
Okay, you're right.
My fantasy is more fun.
jordan holmes
It is more fun.
It's way more fun.
dan friesen
Probably inaccurate.
jordan holmes
I wish we still lived in that world.
Yeah.
No.
What was I...
The Logan Act...
The more you read about it, the more they're like, this is obscure.
And nobody has been prosecuted under it for a long time.
dan friesen
Well, there was one guy, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
In like 1790-something.
jordan holmes
I'm going to assume it was Logan.
Yeah.
The new movie coming out.
dan friesen
We've got to prosecute that movie.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we've got to prosecute that movie.
dan friesen
Put it to bed.
jordan holmes
But I can't believe that it's never happened in that length of time.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
It has to have.
There has to have been those civilians that have gone outside of the government and negotiated some shit.
Almost certainly I don't think anybody could have imagined it would be this Utterly and completely blatant.
dan friesen
It's pretty obvious.
jordan holmes
Like, all of the laws they're breaking are ones that people don't even think about because it seems so stupid to break those laws the way that they're doing it.
dan friesen
Brazenly.
jordan holmes
Brazenly!
dan friesen
And the fact that the phone calls line up with when Trump was, like, very smart of Vladimir Putin not to retaliate.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's no way Trump doesn't know about this.
dan friesen
It's incredibly absurd.
Anybody who insinuates that Trump doesn't know Oh, man, that's a really good question.
It's kind of showing ass a little bit and showing that you're vulnerable.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's...
Well, but he is vulnerable.
dan friesen
But he doesn't want to give that perception.
And he's not playing a good game of...
jordan holmes
Oh, shocker!
Somebody who's never had to play this game of cards is bad at it?
dan friesen
There's a lot of tells going around.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
And someone's spying on his hand.
jordan holmes
No, it seems like they are just...
They're just waiting.
The Republican Congress is just trying to get through as much bullshit as they can in as short a period of time as possible.
dan friesen
They know it's a fire sale.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
How can he not be impeached?
It's not not going to happen.
jordan holmes
How can he not?
He has to be impeached.
dan friesen
And that's just based on what's true now.
Imagine what will happen within the next month.
It's been a month.
jordan holmes
No, and it is another thing where I do absolutely believe that James Comey should be arrested and prosecuted for what he's done.
dan friesen
I've heard some interesting theories about him that I can't fully get into just because I couldn't articulate them well, but I've read some interesting write-ups that suggest that he might be not as bad a dude as...
It appears.
jordan holmes
Interesting.
dan friesen
I'm not sure about this, and I don't want to vouch for that, because on the surface it looks bad.
jordan holmes
It seems like he basically ruined America almost by himself.
dan friesen
Right, but some theories that I've read, and again, this is unsubstantiated, but pretty compelling arguments.
jordan holmes
The North Carolina 18-year-old Russian hacker one?
dan friesen
That's it.
jordan holmes
That's the one, yeah.
I strongly recommend you guys look up the North Carolina Russian hacker who...
Basically, the theory is he catfished Anthony Weiner as a 16-year-old girl.
That was then the excuse that the FBI needed because it was a crime to look into his laptop.
And that's whenever somebody planted Hillary's emails in there.
dan friesen
Well, they had already planted them there.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
But yeah, that was the thing.
Which is, it seems like the most successful...
Rube Goldberg spy machine there's ever been, which is why...
dan friesen
If you're using Occam's razor, it's not super, like, it's not the most believable thing, but there's some pieces of it that kind of, you know, they make you think a little.
jordan holmes
Well, there's that famous quote from that one guy.
Yes, no, you're raising your hand.
I call on Dan Friesen.
dan friesen
Lest I end up sounding like Alex himself, espousing crazy nonsense, let me say these are interesting ideas, but I don't know if they're true.
jordan holmes
Well, that's what I was saying.
There's that old quote where it's like, I won't blame conspiracy whenever ignorance and incompetence are options.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
Speaking of ignorance.
jordan holmes
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Alex wants to tell you, Jordan.
jordan holmes
Me?
dan friesen
He wants to tell you specifically.
jordan holmes
Does he name me?
dan friesen
Yep, he does.
jordan holmes
Jordan Holmes from Knowledge Fight the podcast, who are tools of the globalist.
dan friesen
I would be so mad if you got a shout-out.
jordan holmes
Well, clearly, because I'm the least dangerous between the two of us.
dan friesen
Every single time he, Alex Jones, on his show says, I'll tell you what the problem is.
I'm so convinced he's going to say it's us.
jordan holmes
So you're basically as much a narcissist as Trump is at this point.
It's just getting close.
Getting close.
dan friesen
In the little flickers.
Anyway, we have so many clips.
We've got to get to these.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
We want to tell you about what's really going on in the world.
jordan holmes
Let's do this.
alex jones
So let me explain what's really going on here.
The Machiavellians, the globalists, think that if you don't think evil and backstabbing and twisted and all about global domination, you're weak-minded.
No, we can think Machiavelli.
We know it's not good for humanity, and humanity's already in so much trouble and already has so many crises that we really need to try to work with people.
And watch them very, very closely, trust and verify, and have an open hand and say, let's have real detente.
Let's build an infrastructure.
Let's build a space program.
Let's build advanced technologies.
Let's develop life extension, which they've already got.
Let's deploy that.
Let's launch the space colonies.
Let's do it all.
jordan holmes
Let's launch the space colonies.
alex jones
That's not a wimpy, you know, silly worldview.
Oh, you're silly.
Everybody's evil.
That won't work.
Bullshit.
jordan holmes
Whoa!
He usually doesn't like to use profanity.
dan friesen
He's said two swears already.
unidentified
Bullshit.
dan friesen
And he's not a goddamn Russian spy.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is very out of character for Alex.
jordan holmes
This is really out of character.
dan friesen
But again, it's because it's not playing on these stations.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he's really getting hammered here.
dan friesen
And you can see it in his face.
He is pissed off.
Now, granted, there's still a little bit of acting going on and what have you.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But what's fun about that clip is he's like...
jordan holmes
This sounds way more genuine than...
Like that bullshit he just dropped had a lot of heart behind it.
dan friesen
It's almost like he couldn't stop it from coming out.
So, yeah, I think that, again, this is why we're talking about this clip as opposed to the regular show.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
It really feels like he means more of the stuff he's saying here.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this sounds very real.
dan friesen
So now we're going to get back to that foreign policy article again.
He calls it foreign affairs, and he will straighten that out, I promise.
unidentified
Okay, okay.
dan friesen
But he wants to talk about that, but he gets kind of sidetracked because he doesn't really know the details about that article.
alex jones
But here's the key.
Paul Watson links to the...
Foreign Affairs particular article I'm talking about.
There's another one.
The criminal is starting to worry about Trump.
I'm going to read these articles in entirety on air today.
In fact, I almost get distracted by my guests.
jordan holmes
Does he?
alex jones
I have great guests that come on, but I may just clean the slate of guests today because I need to read all this because this is from...
dan friesen
He does not read all of them.
alex jones
The mouth of Lucifer.
They say they're at Foreign Affairs.
Which, again, is only for globalists.
They put it out, only the establishment reads it, because they think you're too dumb to go read it.
And they're like, oh, we're battling the war on truth.
Get your truth here.
But now...
dan friesen
So, we always come back to this, whatever he says someone else is doing is what he's doing.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
I've come to realize that this idea that he has about the globalists putting all this stuff out, and they know that you're too dumb to go read it, that's him talking about his listeners reading the sources he talks about.
unidentified
Ooh!
dan friesen
He's projecting his own feeling of his audience being dumb.
I mean, it has to be.
The articles that he cites contradict what he's saying.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Consistently.
jordan holmes
So he's...
Ooh, that's a really good...
That's a really good point.
dan friesen
There's almost like...
jordan holmes
Do you think it's conscious or unconscious?
I don't think it's a complete unconscious, like somehow the truth is trying to get out in some way.
dan friesen
This goes back to, I think that the truth about him is one part lie.
One part, maybe a little bit bigger part, paranoia.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then a huge part, lack of writing.
Well, yeah.
Lack of reading comprehension.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Maybe the...
You know, Texas public schools didn't do him a great service.
jordan holmes
See, now I want to know more about his personal life to see if there are full-on paranoid schizophrenic things going on, because that seems really scary to think about.
dan friesen
I've tried to find biographies about him or anything about his life.
jordan holmes
He's too private.
dan friesen
There's really not a ton about his early life, but you can find some sources.
And actually, there's an episode of The Dollop about Jade Helm.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
dan friesen
Where they talk about his early life a little bit.
They dug up some sources.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
And one of the things they talk about is how when he was in high school, he was convinced that people selling drugs to the kids were working.
They were, like, entrapping kids that worked for the school.
jordan holmes
So he really, then yeah, when he said 30 years, he really does mean that.
He has been that guy for like 30 years.
dan friesen
He had those, well, if you, but that's also based on his self-reporting of himself when he was younger.
jordan holmes
True, true.
You're right, you're right.
dan friesen
If you believe him, he did have those paranoid sort of ideations when he was young.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Who cares?
jordan holmes
Or he could just be full of shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, anyway.
jordan holmes
I'm just, now you, like, the moment you brought that up, I'm kind of concerned.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because that changes this show from laughing at a showman to laughing at a mentally ill person who needs help.
dan friesen
Well, but the problem is...
jordan holmes
He's a great showman.
dan friesen
He's a great showman, and his entire premise is anti him getting help.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
And he's such a damaging, awful part of our culture that we must laugh at him.
jordan holmes
Yes, that's true.
dan friesen
Even if he's mentally ill, we can't help him.
jordan holmes
Okay, now...
Here is my theory, based on what he just said, for why the print industry is dying.
It's only for globalists.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There can't be that many of them.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Why would you publish so many papers if it's only for globalists?
dan friesen
Oh man, we're going to learn something else about globalists that's really tragic at the end of this episode too.
jordan holmes
Ooh, okay.
Alright, let's get back into it.
dan friesen
Let's finish this clip.
alex jones
They realize the lies don't work, and so I see this in history only when they're about to execute really horrible devastation.
Starting huge wars.
You name it.
Setting a nuke off in D.C., anything.
Talking about time to kill Trump.
I mean, Obama has gotten a bunker.
This is in the news.
Two miles from the White House and is recruiting with Soros an army for a Bolshevik-style revolution.
dan friesen
That's not true.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
It's not in the news.
jordan holmes
What news would have that on there without us?
dan friesen
There's an article on Breitbart.
jordan holmes
Oh.
Oh, so that is in the news, then.
By the very barest of definitions, that's in the news.
dan friesen
There's a very sensational article on Breitbart that links to an article in the New York Post, and that's the only source on it, and I have pulled it up and read it.
There's no real evidence that he's, you know, getting a militarized bunker.
jordan holmes
And recruiting an army.
Don't forget he's recruiting an army.
A constitutional scholar is recruiting an army.
dan friesen
In the article, the only relevant citations that are made about Obama at all are one hyperlinked clip, I'm sorry, link, that is about Obama saying he was heartened by anti-Trump protests.
And the sentence goes, when former President Barack Obama said he was heartened by anti-Trump protests, he was sending a message of approval to his troops.
Troops?
Yes.
Obama has an army of agitators, numbering more than 30,000, who will fight his Republican successor at every turn of his historic presidency.
Already showing a little bit of bias.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
There's no citation for this 30,000 number or that they're shock troops.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is absurd.
This is propaganda.
jordan holmes
Give me an idea of what, one, The hiring process would be like.
dan friesen
Well, they put out stuff on Backpage.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
No, what it is all about is that Obama is working with that organization, Organizing for Action, which is, you know, community organizing.
jordan holmes
I like how we're still on Obama is their big...
Bogeyman.
dan friesen
Well, it has to be.
jordan holmes
He's fucking windsurfing in the middle of nowhere right now.
And they're like, oh, he's orchestrating all of these Trump protests.
dan friesen
30,000 agitators.
jordan holmes
Yeah, definitely not the millions and millions of people pissed off about how awful he's being right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
It's Obama and 30,000 people.
dan friesen
Yeah.
All of them named Hussein.
And that claim that he's working with Soros and they got this bunker and they got an army.
Of Bolsheviks.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
That's full-on crazy.
dan friesen
The only way you can take that as truth is if you read the Breitbart article that has no sourcing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So, like, okay, go ahead and read that.
It's not news.
It's absolutely not verified.
It's not sourced.
jordan holmes
It is out there in the open, though.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
They're just putting it out there in the open.
dan friesen
It's in a blog, basically.
jordan holmes
You're not smart enough to see that that's the only way globalists communicate with each other is on Breitbart News articles.
dan friesen
This isn't even in foreign policy.
jordan holmes
That's right.
dan friesen
It would have to be if that's how the globalists interact with each other.
It's got to be like, oh, hey, guys, get excited.
Obama's starting this bunker up.
jordan holmes
But they have a secret foreign policy newspaper that they send out only to each other.
dan friesen
Anyway, this clip is mostly about the fear.
alex jones
I woke up.
I've never.
Here's what's happening right now.
You can see it intellectually.
You can also feel it.
There is a...
There was a coup over America under globalism by stealth.
There was a counter-coup with Trump.
They're launching a counter-counter-coup right now, and there's incredible things going on right now.
This is an amazing time to be alive.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
alex jones
And I feel sorry for people that don't have the historical gravitas or understanding, even know what they're dealing with or what they're facing or what they're looking at.
jordan holmes
I kind of do, too.
alex jones
But when they come out...
In these articles, and they say everything I've said, but from their perspective, it's frightening.
Few things frighten me.
But to have this much confirmation of my analysis of the enemy operation, which came from my analysis, and to realize Trump synced up, not because he's even listening to me, but because he gets it.
He's smart.
jordan holmes
He gets it.
alex jones
He knew this before I was born.
jordan holmes
Nope.
alex jones
I know the inside baseball.
jordan holmes
No, you don't.
alex jones
This is a long fight.
jordan holmes
It is.
alex jones
And I look at all the sad, dumbed-down people that have been made slaves of this, and they don't know how hard good people are fighting to try to give them freedom.
It's just painful.
dan friesen
I think he's talking about us.
jordan holmes
I think he is!
alex jones
It's almost too much to actually handle.
And to see these snakes go, okay, we're not going to lie anymore.
Trump wants America and the world to be free.
Trump wants America to take over the whole global system that we stole.
And that America built.
And he wants this big, super powerful system.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
alex jones
And he wants to actually empower humanity.
And we're not going to let him.
And the Russians don't want that either because they want their own power.
And like they're devilishly talking to the devil and the Russians going, Trump's going to break all of it.
He's going to bring it all down.
Join us against Trump.
This is some sick stuff, man.
This is sick.
This is sick.
This is the devil talking.
It's not even that article.
There's a bunch of them.
I read like four of them last night.
dan friesen
He's trying to say that that's what the article is saying.
jordan holmes
So now he's saying that the Russians are gearing up with the anti-Trump people?
dan friesen
No, he's saying that the globalists, through this foreign policy article, are trying to say to the Russians, hey guys, come on, come join us against Trump.
jordan holmes
Oh, join our side against Trump.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Which is where we get into...
jordan holmes
And that's where the counter-coup is happening.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Because the original counter-coup was when the Russians were on his side.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
jordan holmes
But the first coup was...
unidentified
No, no.
dan friesen
You're so wrong.
jordan holmes
How many coups are we going through?
I'm sorry.
This Russian nesting doll of coups.
unidentified
Nope.
dan friesen
Chi-Com nesting doll.
jordan holmes
Good point.
Good point.
alex jones
My bad.
jordan holmes
My bad.
Chi-Com nesting doll of coups.
And I mean C-O-O-Z, if you know what I mean.
dan friesen
We're going to get a beer cooler.
Cousy.
jordan holmes
Well, we're going to get a counter-counter-counter beer koozie.
dan friesen
God, we've got so many great products.
Come see them at our knowledgefightstore.com.
So, no, the coup, the original coup, was a soft coup that was done by Hillary Clinton and George Soros and Bill Clinton and Barack Obama.
jordan holmes
To get her the presidency.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And to flood America with jihadis and what have you and sell us out to the chai comms.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
That was the original coup.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And then behind the scenes, there was another soft coup that was done by people who were fed up in the intelligence communities working with Russia.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But we don't want to talk about that part about it, but Alex does let it slip sometimes.
The Russians were kind of working on it.
So they, these great patriots within the intelligence community, were the ones who leaked all those emails to WikiLeaks and what have you.
jordan holmes
And that was the counter-coup.
dan friesen
That's the counter-coup.
jordan holmes
That was the original counter-coup.
dan friesen
Now this is the narrative that's spouted by Roger Stone and Steve Pchenik whenever they come on the show.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
They pitch the counter-coup narrative.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Then the counter-counter-coup, I suppose...
Is the globalists fight back?
I don't know.
But you can't have a counter, counter, counter, counter coup!
jordan holmes
I mean, obviously, that's what's coming next!
There has to be...
Oh, man, it's turtles all the way down.
That's what it is.
dan friesen
If there's a coup.
jordan holmes
If there's a coup.
dan friesen
Which, I reject that argument.
jordan holmes
Doesn't there have to be, like...
dan friesen
I reject even the first coup as an argument.
But, if there's a coup...
And you're saying that there's a countercoup.
jordan holmes
I've never heard the word coup before this many times in a row.
dan friesen
But if there's a countercoup and you're arguing that, you can't then be surprised when there's a countercoup.
jordan holmes
That's justice.
That's just a battle.
dan friesen
That's just responding.
jordan holmes
There hasn't been one coup yet.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
We're on the road to coup.
Like a buddy picture starring Bing Crosby.
dan friesen
It's so crazy.
Alex, first of all, takes a lot to get him scared.
He's scared because he's...
Reading way more devilish things into this article, and I want to say very clearly, I've read this article four or five times now.
I've read it over, and there's a couple things that I think you could really seriously misrepresent, and I think he does that.
But it's not in any way saying the things that he's going to say.
And once he starts to get into more of the substance of it, I'll explain and describe what the article is actually about.
But for now, he wants to talk a little bit about...
He's going to talk a little bit more about the article.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Not really get into the details yet, because he gets a little bit distracted again.
Kind of always gets distracted.
jordan holmes
Which dimension is he distracted with this time?
dan friesen
17th.
jordan holmes
17th?
They're metastasizing.
That's a counter-counter dimension right there.
dan friesen
This clip is where he realizes that the name of the journal isn't Foreign Affairs.
And he corrects himself, but in doing so, ends up having a philosophical discourse with himself about the nature of honesty.
jordan holmes
That is fucking fantastic.
I can't wait to listen.
alex jones
Russian insiders fear Washington establishment will assassinate Trump.
dan friesen
He says that as if it's the article's title.
It's not.
That's the title of the article on Infowars that Paul Joseph Watson wrote.
Which...
Which uses the article in foreign policy.
jordan holmes
As a reference.
dan friesen
But it never says that anywhere inside the article.
jordan holmes
Not once.
dan friesen
So when he says the name of the article on Infowars, it sounds way worse than the actual article because they're a propaganda outfit.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Now keep in mind that that is just literally a weak lie.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Now we'll get to the honesty treaties.
alex jones
I say foreign affairs.
It's foreign policy, but it's...
I always tell the truth, even when I make a mistake, because foreign policy is foreign affairs articles in the Washington Post, the public.
So it is foreign affairs of the CFR, but foreign policy.
Now, we've hit the zeitgeist so hard that you, like, can't even tell lies, even when you're not trying to tell a lie, but your brain takes...
The information and translates it out true.
Because they admit this is the Council on Foreign Relations.
They just don't want that stigma.
So they call it foreign policy instead of foreign affairs.
I'm calling it foreign affairs because it is foreign affairs.
I'm not just bragging.
It's just, compare that to the average person who's totally unconscious.
Everybody used to be like me a hundred years ago.
This is scary, folks.
Our spirits are being stolen.
dan friesen
There's a lot there.
jordan holmes
That was fucking crazy.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a lot there.
jordan holmes
Play that again halfway through.
Go back to about halfway through.
alex jones
That guy's so hard that you can't even tell lies, even when you're not trying to tell a lie, but your brain takes the information and translates it out true.
Because they admit this is the Council on Foreign Relations.
They just don't want that stigma, so they call it foreign policy instead of foreign affairs.
I'm calling it foreign affairs because it is foreign affairs.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
I'm just bragging.
It's just...
Compare that to the average person who's totally unconscious.
Everybody used to be like me 100 years ago.
jordan holmes
He could have just said...
alex jones
This is scary, folks.
Our spirits are being stolen.
jordan holmes
All he had to do was say, Oops.
I made a mistake.
dan friesen
1000%.
jordan holmes
All he had to do.
That spiraled into some kind of weird I have to be always right.
Even though I made a mistake, what I really did was had a Freudian slip.
But of the truth!
dan friesen
Which, like, at the beginning when I was saying that he says it's foreign affairs but it's actually foreign policy, I wasn't saying that to come down on him.
I was just saying that in the interest of being fully informational.
jordan holmes
And now you can come down on him because that is...
dan friesen
But I would never come down on him for that.
I mean, on our last episode...
Two episodes back, I said fucking Nigel McGinnis 20 times when it was Gavin McGinnis.
I just had no idea.
I don't remember his name.
I don't know what the fuck about a guy who defends blackface.
jordan holmes
Hey, do you know what you just did right there?
You admitted you made a mistake and then we're going to move on.
dan friesen
I did.
jordan holmes
Nobody judges you.
dan friesen
It's super easy to make a slip of the tongue.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
He could have easily done that.
jordan holmes
He could have just said that.
dan friesen
You know what?
I was being truthful even when I wasn't because Nigel McGinnis is a pro wrestler.
jordan holmes
That is fucking crazy.
dan friesen
A hundred years ago, everyone used to be like me.
jordan holmes
Was he there?
Also, what does that mean?
Wait, 100 years ago, everybody used to be like him.
What does that mean?
dan friesen
I don't know, but he might know that because of ancestral memories.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
dan friesen
You live on through your descendants.
jordan holmes
If he really does have a narrative through line throughout everything he believes in such a way as, like, if you just see the whole picture, like, if we...
If you beautiful-minded it.
Yeah, if we Zodiac Killer, the guy searching for the Zodiac, and we have the pins, and we use the string to tie them up together.
dan friesen
That's coming.
jordan holmes
And it does make sense.
dan friesen
That's coming, by the way.
jordan holmes
That would be amazing.
dan friesen
I'm going to take down those pictures on the wall behind you, and we're going to straight up just turn this into wacky land.
jordan holmes
And then you're going to leave them down forever like our friend John Rapoport.
dan friesen
And then I'm just going to start peeing in all these empty wine bottles.
Never leave my room.
jordan holmes
And that's how Trump dies.
dan friesen
So here he gets in.
jordan holmes
Ammonia fumes.
dan friesen
He finally gets into a little bit more about the article, but still doesn't really get into it.
alex jones
And you read this stuff, and it's just like, okay, Trump really is a real revolution and wants to empower poor people, and he is going to build factories in the black areas, and you know what, Rush, you really want to deal with America that powerful?
Join us.
Come on, we'll share it with you.
Just help, you know.
Man, you talk about...
And telling Russia, we're going to kill him.
We're going to kill him.
They even announce it, but the one lie they tell is their biggest truth.
They say in two different articles I read, they go, Putin's canceled the Bolshevik Revolution celebration.
And they say, he did that because he's afraid of revolutions.
No.
He's part of the revolution of bringing Christianity back.
Putin's real.
And they're trying to mop up communism and the old hardliners in their government right now.
dan friesen
I'm going to go ahead and...
jordan holmes
Is there anybody more of an old hardliner than Putin himself?
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
He is the single most hardliner there.
Also, he came up with an amazing Zen Cohen right there, which is the one lie they're telling is actually the truth.
That is the sound of one lie clapping.
That's amazing.
dan friesen
I have the article here.
In 2016, a senior Russian official explained to a group of visiting foreigners why the government had decided not to celebrate the upcoming 100th anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution.
Yes, it was a turning point in Russian history, he argued.
And yes, President Vladimir Putin sees today's Russia as a successor to both the Tsars and the Bolsheviks.
But celebrating a revolution would send the wrong message to society.
The Kremlin today is staunchly opposed to regime change, the visitors were told, and thus skittish about eulogizing 1917.
It plans to use the centenary instead to draw attention to the catastrophic consequences of resorting to revolution to solve social and political problems.
That is the...
That's what he's taking that part from.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
They are staunchly opposed to regime change, especially when it comes to Russian regime change.
dan friesen
Right, and also, yeah.
But you see the difference between the text and what his interpretation is?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But you never make the subtext text.
You always keep it hidden between the lines.
dan friesen
Of course, especially if you're a goddamn globalist.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
That's how you communicate with each other.
Have you tried circling the first letter of every word in one of those sentences and then putting it together and then seeing what that says?
dan friesen
You know what I did do?
I did put rice wine vinegar on my phone to see if anything comes up out of the text.
So far, nothing.
jordan holmes
You threw glitter to see if the invisible ink stuck to it.
dan friesen
My phone is not operating very well.
Anyway, this clip goes on a little bit more.
jordan holmes
Do you know why?
Globalists.
dan friesen
This clip gets a little bit more religious.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
But they spin it and go, oh, because he's afraid of a revolution.
No.
He said the bullshit revolution was bad.
Communism was bad.
He's actually saying it.
He's doing it.
jordan holmes
He didn't say that.
alex jones
He's announcing, we want God.
We want sovereignty.
Russia's saying, we want Christ's providence.
Just like Trump did, by example, January 20th.
This is huge.
dan friesen
None of that was in the article.
jordan holmes
Did not say any of that.
dan friesen
None of it.
jordan holmes
Is there any evidence other than how much Putin hates gay people that he is in any way like a Christian?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Does he attend a Russian Orthodox church?
What are we talking about here?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I've never really been too interested in the religious lives.
jordan holmes
Does he have to wear a shirt when he goes to church?
dan friesen
It would be disrespectful not to, I think.
jordan holmes
It would be disrespectful to ask Putin to wear a shirt.
dan friesen
He would take it as a sign of disrespect, for sure.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So who wins in a fistfight between Putin and Christ?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Christ looked ripped!
dan friesen
Yeah, he did.
He's just out there, and as Alex was bringing up on a later show, I don't have the clip of this, but he was talking about how when Christ went in with the money changers, he'd beat their ass.
He wanted to make a good point out of Christ could fight if he wanted to.
unidentified
That is such a weird story.
jordan holmes
Whatever, it's like, Christ, the bringer of peace and love, goes into the temple and is like, fuck this shit!
Hulk's out.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He was making the argument that the reason that Christ got mad about that was because they were using different types of currency in order to bilk people out of money.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that sounds about right.
dan friesen
That's what he was mad about, not the fact that they were bringing commerce into the church.
Or whatever.
jordan holmes
I mean, if you look at the megachurches we have now, you can't be mad about a Starbucks being in your church.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
But he has varying interpretations of what Christ was actually mad about in that story, but then his big point is that, boom, he fought.
jordan holmes
I've never thought about how out of character that is for Jesus.
Couldn't he have just talked to him?
dan friesen
It is a little weird, but there's a whole bunch of stuff if you look into, like, you know, the child gospels and stuff, like he killed his friend.
jordan holmes
That is true.
dan friesen
Brought him back to life, though.
unidentified
He did.
jordan holmes
That's a weird one.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's a real weird one.
A kid bumped into him, and so he's like, you're fucking dead.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then his parents were like, dude, come on.
Don't kill him.
And he was like, fine, and brings him back to life.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's crazy.
dan friesen
That's why it's not in the Bible.
jordan holmes
That's my favorite verse of, that's my favorite book of the Bible, though.
dan friesen
It's not bad.
So, hey, you know, we're making a lot of jokes about the globalists, but we really should take them seriously because they're up to no good.
alex jones
They're killing the family right now.
They're putting out psychological warfare systems that are going to end us.
And humanity at the final cliff.
Of cultural and spiritual death.
The Russians, America, the Japanese, the Brazilians, the Italians, people all over are going, I don't want to do this.
I don't want to die.
I don't want to not have kids.
I don't want to give over myself because Elon Musk says merge with machines or die and the globalists are all announcing their crap.
You're not able to have kids in the future unless you go to the government and have some composite engineered humanoid because everybody's going to be sterile.
I told you that 10 years ago.
Now they're announcing it.
jordan holmes
I don't think that's a bad idea.
unidentified
It's all a damn plan.
alex jones
It's pure evil.
jordan holmes
I kind of would be cool with that plan for childbirth.
dan friesen
All right, we're going to have a slight disagreement there.
I mean, you might be able to eliminate all sorts of very tragic diseases and stuff like that, but there's also an argument to be made that variety is the spice of life, and much like you were talking about on the last episode, even some mental illnesses are strengths.
jordan holmes
I agree, but wouldn't that be kind of fun?
dan friesen
It would be interesting.
jordan holmes
That would be a really interesting world.
dan friesen
It would be fun in a book.
But Elon Musk doesn't say that.
jordan holmes
I don't know why he brought up Elon Musk.
dan friesen
Who's also advising Trump.
jordan holmes
Yeah, who is also very much against his workers unionizing.
Elon Musk is not some kind of globalist hero here.
dan friesen
No, but he's the closest thing that Alex knows to a futurist.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
And there was an article that had come out recently where Elon Musk was talking about how because of...
Because of the rapidity and the speed that technology is evolving in, AI merging with humanity might be a necessary piece of humans keeping up.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And he's talking about that as...
jordan holmes
Otherwise we're going to be replaced.
dan friesen
He's talking about that as sort of a hypothetical thing and something that may be coming down the line with the nature of how our technology works.
jordan holmes
I don't think I'd be too far against that either.
dan friesen
But he's not saying merge with machines or die.
He's just saying that, like, we might end up becoming cyborgs.
jordan holmes
You know what?
I am officially saying it here.
Merge with machines or die.
dan friesen
All right.
jordan holmes
That's my...
But the list of countries that he pulled out of his ass were my favorite random countries.
dan friesen
Which ones were those?
jordan holmes
It was Russia, America, Japan, Brazil...
Italy.
Like, those are his world superpowers right there.
dan friesen
Well, because Italy is pulling, like, they're the next country that wants to pull out of the EU.
jordan holmes
Okay, I thought Spain was the next country they wanted to pull out.
dan friesen
He talks about them a little bit, too.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
But Italy is one of the big examples he uses of...
jordan holmes
So it's always on his mind.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Much like Georgia.
dan friesen
Yes.
Okay.
And Georgia is on Putin's mind.
jordan holmes
Is always on my mind.
dan friesen
And it's on Putin's mind as a country he wants to take back.
unidentified
Yeah, that's true!
jordan holmes
That's true!
Next on that list.
dan friesen
It's a good thing that nationalism never led to fascism in Italy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, I'm glad that we have a great track record of never repeating the same shit that happened exactly 70 years ago every 70 years.
dan friesen
I don't know what's going on in Brazil.
But, I don't know.
jordan holmes
It's not good.
Brazil is a tire fire.
Oh, it's bad.
Somehow their government is worse and more corrupt than ours.
dan friesen
They basically have a kidnapping-based economy.
jordan holmes
They do!
Well, and that's how their government changed, was actually with a real coup.
dan friesen
Yeah, was it a counter-coup or a counter-counter-coup?
jordan holmes
No, it was just one!
Well, unless you count the first coup as getting rid of the military dictatorship.
dan friesen
Yep, that was the first coup.
jordan holmes
That was the first coup.
Then the counter coup is white people doing what we do best.
dan friesen
Counter coup.
jordan holmes
Taking our shit back.
dan friesen
Yep, counter coup!
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So this next clip, Jordan.
This next one.
You might be thinking, like, he's painting a really bleak picture of the world and shit's pretty bad.
jordan holmes
And he sounds really depressed about it.
dan friesen
But Alex Jones is not a man to mire.
In the depressiveness.
He's a man who wants to come at you with some solutions.
jordan holmes
Okay!
dan friesen
He's got a solution for you.
jordan holmes
Do you know what?
I respect that a lot because most Republicans do not go that far.
unidentified
Well...
jordan holmes
Even the mainstream...
dan friesen
Wait till you hear his solution.
jordan holmes
That's not the point.
At least he's got an idea.
Like, they're saying they want to get rid of Obamacare, and nobody has come up with even close to an idea.
dan friesen
Repeal and replace.
jordan holmes
It's two words.
But nobody's doing the replace part.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
At least Alex Jones is like, hey, how about healthcare comes from the 11th dimension?
How about that, guys?
dan friesen
He's not even going to be that specific, and also, at the end, he's going to talk about Satan.
jordan holmes
Okay, good.
alex jones
We have to organize ourselves into chivalrous, good, strong organizations that re-invoke the rituals of...
dan friesen
Also, I want to interrupt here for a second.
I'm actually going to go back to the beginning.
I didn't catch this the first time I was listening to it.
When he says chivalrous, do you think he's talking about, like, knights?
jordan holmes
I think he's more talking about...
dan friesen
Or holding doors open for ladies.
jordan holmes
I think it's more holding doors open for ladies.
dan friesen
So it's not like the ancient code of chivalry.
jordan holmes
I do think there's also the implied, like...
And women are below us.
Chivalrous societies.
That kind of a thing.
dan friesen
We gotta save them all from dragons and shit.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
We gotta make sure that they don't hurt themselves.
dan friesen
Alright.
This is definitely not going to lead some of his fucking listeners to end up like Don Quixote.
alex jones
We have to organize ourselves into chivalrous, good, strong organizations.
jordan holmes
Like unions.
alex jones
That re-invoke the rituals of the birthrights.
That re-invoke the rituals of the rites of passage.
jordan holmes
Like the Masons.
alex jones
That stress people in a good way to flower into what they're supposed to be.
And that have a culture that admires human strength and worships what God made.
because God is what we worship.
This is all a satanic ritual against the most beautiful Oh, boy.
jordan holmes
That is some full-on fire and brimstone Scarjo, not Scarjo, Marjo shit right there.
dan friesen
That's not Scarlett Johansson.
jordan holmes
Scarlett Johansson, yeah.
No, there's the child preacher in the, I want to say it was Marjo or something like that.
dan friesen
I'm thinking it's more along the lines, like he gets a little Jim Jones-y throughout these.
jordan holmes
Sinners in the hands of an angry god kind of thing.
dan friesen
There is a feeling, I worry that if things get really bad.
It's going to be either take to the streets or drink the Kool-Aid.
jordan holmes
Yeah, do you think he's going to turn this into a death cult?
Because this has the feel of a death cult coming, right?
dan friesen
And he accuses globalism of being a literal death cult.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
He calls Islam a death cult.
jordan holmes
Whatever it is they're saying we're doing is what they're trying to do, so we need to do it first.
So if they're a death cult, we need to death cult better.
dan friesen
It's possible.
I don't know.
It's really weird though.
This is getting weird.
Again, I'm not taking him out of context.
I'm letting these clips play.
I'm engaging with the source material, which is his talking.
He always likes to say...
I don't believe these things.
It's what the globalists believe.
But in that sentence, he said, do you think God gives these gifts to children at the beginning?
They have to work for it.
That's why these Satanists feel so powerful.
jordan holmes
I don't understand that second part of the sentence.
Does Lucifer give it to the Satanists first?
dan friesen
I guess so.
But what he's implicitly saying, or even explicitly, is that there are powers.
jordan holmes
That is a good point.
dan friesen
He is saying that.
jordan holmes
He is explicitly saying there are powers.
dan friesen
If the good folks, like himself, work, they get good powers.
Whereas these evil people are just given evil powers for joining up.
It's a complete psychotic break.
jordan holmes
He's living in Dragon Ball Z. That's what he's living in.
He's living in Dragon Ball Z. Yeah.
You can't get a shortcut to increasing your power level to 5,000.
dan friesen
Super male vitality.
jordan holmes
You gotta work hard.
You gotta take super male vitality.
dan friesen
That's how you charge up like Goku.
jordan holmes
Over 9,000.
That's what we're going for.
dan friesen
You take a caveman, you charge up.
jordan holmes
Chew up bones.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Jesus fucking Christ.
I'm still not going to be able to get past the whole this is ground up bones thing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Now, admittedly, you know what?
Marshmallows?
There's a lot of ground up bones in there.
So never mind.
I'm totally fine with taking a ground up bone pill.
dan friesen
Gelatin is kind of?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's ground up bones.
unidentified
Fuck it.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I think the whales are great and the elephants are great, but you know what?
Grounded bones are a trillion times better.
dan friesen
I do like how he has to throw shade at animals all the time.
It does seem to...
That is a recurring theme.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
Anyway...
jordan holmes
He hates the animal kingdom.
dan friesen
This next clip, he gets into some more Satan talk.
alex jones
When you look at Chuckie Schumer, and you look at all these New World Order people, and you look at what they're doing, and you look at what they're involved in, and they are Satanists, ladies and gentlemen.
And there is a real struggle against evil.
Taking place right now on this planet.
I mean, you look at the Michael Moores and the Gloria Steinems and the Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi's.
Those are sucked dry, empty husks.
Zombies.
jordan holmes
Again?
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
Again, women.
He's talking shit about women.
It's always about women.
dan friesen
He does seem to...
Well, I mean, it's because he has that clip of Maxine Waters and Nancy Pelosi, so they're fresh on the mind.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but don't take down Gloria Steinem.
Why are you doing that?
dan friesen
Because he found...
jordan holmes
He does not hold a fucking candle to Gloria Steinem.
dan friesen
No, but...
jordan holmes
She would eat his balls alive.
dan friesen
Ground up.
jordan holmes
I'm fairly certain that those balls are ground up into bone right now.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he...
If I recall, the reason he's mad at her is he believes that she works for the CIA.
jordan holmes
Oh.
But not the devil?
Or does the CIA also work for the devil?
dan friesen
I think he's moonlighting.
jordan holmes
I really want to find out what his, like...
dan friesen
The flowchart?
jordan holmes
Yeah, who works for the devil?
dan friesen
The org chart.
jordan holmes
Because he calls out organizations, but then do we ever get into specific people who are working for the CIA, but also the devil on a false devil flag?
dan friesen
In a little bit, he's going to get into his idea of the hierarchy of things.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay, good.
dan friesen
So there is a little bit of talk about that coming up?
jordan holmes
Oh, then that should clarify things, because as we know, whenever I get a clip...
It always clarifies things for me.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
It doesn't create more questions.
Always clarifies me.
dan friesen
So, this next clip, we learn a couple things.
First, it turns out that Jerry Sandusky's son got arrested for molesting children.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Like father, like son.
dan friesen
I mean, it is something that is generational a lot of times.
jordan holmes
And it kind of suggests that he may have been molested himself.
dan friesen
A hundred percent.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
I mean, there's almost no doubt in my mind that that's the case.
And that's a real tragedy.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
Alex reads way more into that and how they're part of a bigger system.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
And this is also a clip where we learn that Alex Jones recently read Dracula.
alex jones
They're going to start arresting people in Pennsylvania with the Sandusky situation.
They arrested his son, reportedly one of the procurers.
His daddy was a procurer.
Told you Sandusky was on with the Renzi.
jordan holmes
Don't ever say anything like that, ever.
unidentified
Don't ever say procurer.
dan friesen
He said it so lasciviously.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what the fuck was that?
dan friesen
Also, I don't know if there's any evidence that that is true.
That they were procuring children.
jordan holmes
I don't care.
They're pedophiles.
dan friesen
Yeah, absolutely.
jordan holmes
It does not matter.
dan friesen
That's bad enough.
jordan holmes
The thing is that he's using that in such an exploitative manner.
dan friesen
Right, because you have to juice up your base.
You have to make the people even madder at Chuck Schumer by connection to this.
It's insane.
jordan holmes
That's fucking disgusting.
Now I'm going to put the mic down.
I saw you get very animated.
dan friesen
I had to go back because this is the evidence that...
And he brings up these references that he makes about 50 times on the last three episodes of the show.
So it's clear he fucking read Dracula.
alex jones
Really recently.
dan friesen
Or someone had a conversation with him about it.
jordan holmes
Or he saw the great Gary Oldman portrayal of Dracula, where Keanu Reeves really crushes it in a speaking role, which is bad for him.
dan friesen
Here we go.
alex jones
He was only the Renfield.
Count Dracula still sits there in Penn State.
Count Dracula only gets the trainees to rape kids.
They're not just raping kids.
They're slicing their throats.
But long after they torture them and torture them real hard.
unidentified
What the fuck?
alex jones
So you get something through your heads out there, all of you.
You sign on to this evil.
You keep making your jokes about Trump and what's happening.
As they arrest pedophiles from Pennsylvania to California.
As Weiner prepares to be indicted for child porn.
As all of these criminal groups get rolled up.
You just remember what side you were on.
Good God, look at what you stand for.
Look at how physically ugly your leaders are.
What?
And that's a manifestation of the fact that that's their spirit.
And that's what they want.
And they want ugliness.
They like ugliness.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, before we say anything else, he has just opened himself up for...
Personal appearance attacks.
dan friesen
He looks like shit.
jordan holmes
He looks like fucking garbage.
Do not, do not come at me with your physical appearance is what your spirit manifests itself without you looking in a goddamn mirror real fucking hard.
dan friesen
Rob Dew looks like shit.
Leanne McAdoo's smoking hot.
So she's cool.
jordan holmes
She's cool.
dan friesen
Fucking David Knight looks like a...
Fucking Santa Claus impersonator at a mall.
jordan holmes
He does look alright shirtless, though.
dan friesen
He looks okay.
Who else we got?
jordan holmes
Roger Stone looks not bad.
dan friesen
Roger Stone looks like a glamour puss.
jordan holmes
Yep, yep.
He's out in the touching ladies business.
Our boy, John Rappaport.
dan friesen
Looks like hell.
jordan holmes
Definitely not looks good.
dan friesen
Looks like hell.
jordan holmes
Looks like he has been through the Unabomber ringer.
dan friesen
Paul Joseph Watson is attractive in some lights, but he always looks like he's about to cry.
He looks like the biggest puss in the world.
jordan holmes
Alright.
dan friesen
But, you know, if he didn't talk, I think he'd probably be attractive.
And if he put some fucking...
Get some vison.
Get some fucking visine in your eyes, Paul Joseph Watson.
jordan holmes
You just described the Tinder date you went on with Paul Joseph Watson right there.
dan friesen
If you just shut the fuck up about social justice warriors, we could have enjoyed our coffee.
Yeah, but also the thing that I find super offensive about that clip is the insinuation that there's only two sides.
There's like, if you're not on board with Trump, you are one of these pedophiles.
You're as bad as them.
You're defending them.
jordan holmes
Everybody is associated with pedophiles.
If there's any news about a pedophile, it will immediately be...
Related to Hillary Clinton and the globalists.
And slitting your kids' throats?
dan friesen
And again, he's talking so lasciviously about that.
jordan holmes
That's so fucking disgusting.
dan friesen
He's trying to horrify people and then be like, if you don't want to be like that, you've got to be on our side.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Which works for really dumb people, but does not.
If you're critical and you can realize, no, I'm against your wacky bullshit.
jordan holmes
And I'm also strongly against pedophiles.
dan friesen
Also, a lot of these reports that are coming out that are being used as evidence that Trump is rolling up pedophile networks.
unidentified
What?
dan friesen
There's a bunch of stuff on conspiracy blogs and message boards about these arrests that are going on, and a lot of the times they aren't pedophile rings.
They are human trafficking things, but they're adults.
They're prostitution.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, human trafficking is bad.
But again, I don't think Trump has a goddamn thing to do with that.
dan friesen
Probably not.
But also...
Human trafficking is just what a lot of prostitution charges get ended up being trumped up to.
jordan holmes
Oh really?
dan friesen
Yeah, a lot of these people who are getting arrested are just small-time prostitutes or a pimp.
jordan holmes
That's not good.
dan friesen
No, I mean, pimps are bad.
I mean, that's not good.
jordan holmes
Pimps are bad.
dan friesen
But it's not splitting kids' throats.
jordan holmes
The sex industry should be legalized.
I think that's a good thing.
There should be protections.
That is not the same thing as human trafficking, which is horrifying.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
Human trafficking is truly horrifying, and to conflate those two together is very, very evil.
dan friesen
Right, and a lot of these sites are doing that.
I can't say that for every single instance, but a couple of them I've looked into is like, this is just a run-of-the-mill prostitution sting.
But anyway, the big point that I want to make is that you can very much be against Trump and against pedophiles.
jordan holmes
It seems like that should be a point that does not need to be made.
dan friesen
Nope.
But anyway...
jordan holmes
Somehow we're in that world.
We're in the darkest timeline.
dan friesen
We now get back to some shit about Flynn.
And Alex tells a little lie about a time he went to dinner.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Is somebody going to compliment his car again?
dan friesen
No, it's even more insane.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
The globalist, the breakaway deep state, was spying on Flynn while he's in there.
His only sin is he's so genuine and so good.
And working against all this, he doesn't realize how they would spend that kind of stuff.
When they have some guy speaking Russian walking over to me, I look over, where's the camera?
Oh, there's somebody.
I'm like, ah!
Or I'm sitting there at dinner with an active Navy SEAL.
Somebody walks over and goes, Alex, I want you to talk to Trump about nuclear submarines for Taiwan.
And I look, where's the camera?
Oh, yep, there they are.
There's a guy just like, I'm dumb, sitting there filming.
It's just like, you know.
So they could run back to the intelligence agency.
He goes, here's Jones acting like he's got contacts with Trump trying to sell submarine deals.
That's how it works, folks!
dan friesen
That's not how it works.
jordan holmes
That is not how it works.
That's a very bad spy.
That's a really, really bad spy.
dan friesen
He's told this story a couple times, which leads me to believe that something might have happened.
jordan holmes
Talk about nuclear submarines for Taiwan.
dan friesen
I imagine if this did happen, it was someone trying to prank him.
It wasn't intelligence agencies.
It was someone, like some jackass, coming up and trying to fuck with him.
jordan holmes
I'm against the intelligence community because of their implicit evil.
dan friesen
And explicit.
jordan holmes
But you do have to give them at least a basic level of competency.
They're not going up to random people being like, Hey, man.
You been doing any spying lately?
dan friesen
You want to talk to Trump about selling us a nuclear submarine?
jordan holmes
Hey, I'm not a spy.
Are you a spy?
You guys do drugs?
Like, yeah.
unidentified
So insane.
jordan holmes
What is this?
dan friesen
It's so crazy.
For someone who claims to have sources and know how things work on the inside, for him to think that that was anything other than someone fucking with him, or quite possibly, it's just him making something up.
jordan holmes
That has to be him making something up.
dan friesen
Or just the entire thing up.
jordan holmes
Most likely.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
I like how he used the terrible job interview line of like, what's your biggest flaw?
I think it's...
That I'm just too genuine.
dan friesen
I have too much integrity.
jordan holmes
I just have so much.
I'm too nice.
I really am just such a genuinely good person.
I think that's my biggest flaw.
dan friesen
After he finishes up his dinner lie, he does some role-playing about what Flynn's firing might have been like.
jordan holmes
I love role-playing.
alex jones
I'm sitting there at dinner drinking a beer and shuttling Wolfgang Puck.
Appetizers in my mouth.
This is the kind of crap I deal with.
On a weekly basis.
And so that's what Flynn and everybody who's used to his own military culture and trying to do a good job and telling the truth and, oh yeah, line up the calls.
Okay, we'll get the Russian ambassador, line that call up for tomorrow with the president, okay?
We'll negotiate talking to Putin.
Now, sir, I can't talk to you about the sanctions, but you know Trump wants an open relationship, so we're going to try to work with you and try to have some mutually successful things for humanity.
Oh my God!
Flynn's been blackmailed.
dan friesen
So that's basically the thrust of his argument.
jordan holmes
So his argument is that what Flynn was doing, talking to the Russian ambassadors, was actually saying, I can't talk to you about this yet?
dan friesen
Yeah, the Russians brought it up.
He artfully dodged the question and said, look, I know Trump wants to work with you, but I can't talk about that stuff.
jordan holmes
And then absolutely did not lie to anybody about that.
dan friesen
Well...
jordan holmes
He was just too genuine to lie about what it was that he talked about.
dan friesen
Well, no, because he didn't talk to them about sanctions.
They just asked him, and he said, I can't talk to you about it.
So when he was asked about it, he didn't think that that qualified as talking about sanctions.
Wow.
unidentified
Which...
jordan holmes
Even that?
Qualifies, right?
dan friesen
Qualifies as lying.
jordan holmes
That still seems like something you would want to talk about.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If they asked you about sanctions, wouldn't that be a thing where you're like, hey, I think they're really concerned about these sanctions.
dan friesen
That might be something to report.
But if Alex's version of the truth was real, which it's not, but if that were real, that would be a very different scenario, I think.
I don't think I would be that worried about him saying something like that.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's actually him being very genuine and honest.
dan friesen
But that's not true.
jordan holmes
Not even close to true.
That's the exact opposite of anything true.
dan friesen
I don't think that people are so fucking bonered out to make a case against someone that they're going to trump up that.
jordan holmes
That's the laziest thing, too.
dan friesen
Also, he claims that he knows that this is what happened because the transcripts have been released.
unidentified
They haven't.
Nope.
dan friesen
And he doesn't have these transcripts.
jordan holmes
I do like how he describes Wolfgang Puck appetizers as the shit he has to deal with every day.
dan friesen
Well, once a week.
jordan holmes
Yeah, once a week.
dan friesen
He's going to Wolfgang Puck once a week, and someone is trying to pretend he's a Russian with a video camera.
Just absolute insanity.
Anyway, here is actually the role-playing that he does about the Flynn firing.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
And, of course, the president then, I guess, got advised, or Flynn probably just got sick of it, said, I'm resigning.
Not a good move.
That's how they trick you.
In fact, I haven't talked to any of these people, but I bet that Flynn just said, sir, I don't want to be a distraction.
I'm sorry.
I probably should have been clear on that.
I'm going to resign.
Trump said, well, all right, but keep advising behind the scenes.
I bet money that's how it went.
jordan holmes
That's also a crime?
dan friesen
I think it is.
jordan holmes
Keep advising me behind the scenes?
No, you can't do that behind the scenes.
You have to have transcripts.
There's laws.
There's super laws.
It's really important that there are those things.
You can't just advise him behind the scenes.
dan friesen
I think it's good that he said, I haven't talked to any of these people.
I'm just guessing.
jordan holmes
But I bet.
I bet the way it went down.
dan friesen
Because if he had talked to them and he knew what was going on...
jordan holmes
He just revealed a crime.
unidentified
He just revealed against the laws.
dan friesen
Although two episodes back, he did just read allegedly classified material.
Yeah, that's true.
jordan holmes
It kind of both suggests that nobody is listening to Alex Jones and everybody does not care if they are.
dan friesen
What if it's all just bots and us?
unidentified
What if all the rest of the downloads...
jordan holmes
Russian bots, it's Putin's Russian hacker teams, the hacker farms, and they're just all doing the views, just over and over and over again.
dan friesen
The more I think about it, the more I do realize he has to have outside funding.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
I've thought about it a whole bunch more.
And on Wednesday's show, he was talking about how...
You know, selling this stuff doesn't fund the operation the way he needs.
You're getting money from somewhere else.
There's no way.
jordan holmes
I would like to track, like, his...
dan friesen
Tax returns?
jordan holmes
It's too late for that.
It's too late for that.
The Republicans voted against him releasing his tax returns.
Because it's time for us to just move on.
dan friesen
We can't Freedom of Information Act, Alex Jones' tax returns.
jordan holmes
Not yet.
We gotta wait 25 years or whatever.
dan friesen
Once Obama gets his fucking street soldiers out there, maybe.
Sorry, you had a question.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
What was it?
dan friesen
Well, maybe while you think about it, we'll get to this next clip, which is about...
It gets into how all of this that's going on in the world is preparation for war, and then he talks about how Marine Le Pen is fucking sweet.
alex jones
Now they're like, ah, victory!
There's Russian spies everywhere!
Let's bring down the Russians!
And this is for when they start a war with Russia, because they got operatives inside the military, you name it, and then saying, anybody that didn't before the war is a Russian agent, and who would have known?
They're saying in France, they're saying in Germany, they're saying everywhere.
If any nationalist movements come that don't want open borders to Islam and don't want anti-Christian groups everywhere, well, you know what?
They're secretly, you heard them first, Russian spies.
And the State Department is in open revolt against Trump and Rex Tillerson.
jordan holmes
Yeah, for good reason.
alex jones
Battling Le Pen, who they say is a Russian agent.
jordan holmes
Who says that?
dan friesen
No one.
alex jones
And then they've got spies around the clock, around Le Pen, waiting for her to go to a cocktail party or an event and shake the hands.
Of course the Russians trying to work with them.
That's what all the countries do.
dan friesen
But, I mean, that's just his Wolfgang Puck story again.
But with Marine Le Pen.
He's arguing that people are saying that she's a Russian spy.
No one is.
People are just saying she's a fucking fascist.
Because she is.
jordan holmes
Because she is.
dan friesen
And that they're saying that she's very much a fascist.
Russians actively would like her to get into power because it facilitates their goal of breaking up the UN and the EU.
jordan holmes
Yeah, again, it's the same reason that they wanted Trump in power.
dan friesen
They're not saying she's a Russian spy.
They're just saying that Russia's into her and they went to court.
Someone called her a fascist.
She sued.
It went to court and it got thrown out of court because the court...
jordan holmes
She was a fascist!
dan friesen
The court ruled that her opinions and her philosophies are legally fascism.
So when people are...
jordan holmes
She's legally a fascist.
dan friesen
Yeah, so when people are like...
jordan holmes
So the court case was, read a dictionary.
Excellent.
dan friesen
But that's his whole thing, is like, Russian agents, Russian blah blah blah.
jordan holmes
And here's the thing.
I don't necessarily disagree with him that people are being russophobic in a way that isn't productive.
There are plenty of times where I've seen people say, oh, it's the agents of the Russians who are at fault for all kinds of things.
When again, It's much more likely to be just basic incompetence.
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
I think there's some of that.
jordan holmes
Like the Podesta email things, it was a basic phishing attack.
All Podesta did was click on a link.
So yes, it was a Russian hacker who put the link in an email, but also, Podesta's just shitty at the internet.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, that's maybe my biggest problem with our government as it is right now, is that it seems like everybody in power is just bad at Googling shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, well, I mean, that's because people stay in power for longer than they should.
And technology moves way faster than anyone thinks it's going to.
So you end up with people in power who have been there since the internet was young.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And they don't fucking understand how all this stuff works.
alex jones
No.
dan friesen
To a large extent, I don't fucking understand all this stuff, and I've grown up with it.
jordan holmes
Well, Trump is a 70-year-old man.
dan friesen
He's fucked.
jordan holmes
Imagine every 70-year-old man you know.
All of their collective internet knowledge together, light it on fire in a golden toilet, and that's what Trump knows about the internet.
dan friesen
And that's how you end up reading confidential documents with a cell phone flashlight.
jordan holmes
Fucking crazy!
dan friesen
Yeah, that's how you end up reading that.
jordan holmes
That is the dumbest thing!
Look, did you see Citizen Four?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know how they put their fucking phones in the freezer?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because they might just even be listening a little bit?
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
He pointed his phone with a flashlight at classified fucking documents.
dan friesen
At Mar-a-Lago at a public dinner.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
With the Japanese Prime Minister.
jordan holmes
With donors and Prime Minister.
Oh, man.
I have tape on my computer's webcam because that's how they can...
So do I. Yeah.
You can watch people!
It's easy!
Yep.
That blew me away.
dan friesen
That's one part he's 70, another part like, oh my god.
jordan holmes
The other part is that everybody in his fucking cabinet is idiotic.
They posted a picture with the guy who carries around the nuclear football.
dan friesen
They didn't.
jordan holmes
Some donor did.
You shouldn't have that information out there.
dan friesen
Well, I'm sure they've switched it out and it's a new guy now.
jordan holmes
I doubt they have!
dan friesen
If you are really doing security for the president and you see...
Someone, like, buddying up to the nuclear football guy?
You fucking get that guy away from him.
jordan holmes
That's bad!
dan friesen
Yeah, you don't let him, like, take some glory shots with him?
jordan holmes
Yeah!
dan friesen
That's insane.
jordan holmes
That is insane.
dan friesen
But that's...
jordan holmes
That's full-on Dr. Strangelove territory that we're getting into here.
dan friesen
But that's, again, one of the downsides of Trump being allowed to use his own private security instead of trained Secret Service agents.
He has his own, like, guard around him, and they don't know what is...
What is dangerous?
What's a leak?
jordan holmes
How is any of this acceptable?
dan friesen
It's not, and it's going to get so much worse.
jordan holmes
And none of this is acceptable.
dan friesen
Jordan, it's all progress until the end.
jordan holmes
None of this is acceptable.
dan friesen
It's all progress until the end.
jordan holmes
There are zero news stories that you read where you're like, okay, I'm fine with that.
dan friesen
I have a news story for you.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
It's what the globalists are actually trying to do.
unidentified
Ooh.
alex jones
Well, what they really say is, we're going to kill everybody.
That's unacceptable!
You won't even matter.
But first we're going to make you ugly and stupid and poison you and get you to accept evil so that we have a right to you because if you declare your birthright as sentient and conscious and say I want free will and say I want the secrets of the universe and say I want to be with God and I want to be good, well then you don't have a place at your table in hell.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
alex jones
And so they must poison you so they can rule you.
I don't want to be a Nancy Pelosi or a Chuckie Schumer.
Take one look at those dead-eyed zombies.
Those walking dead.
dan friesen
Yeah, man.
jordan holmes
Every time I look at Nancy Pelosi, I just think, I don't want your life.
What is that?
What is fucking that?
dan friesen
They want to kill you.
jordan holmes
Usually...
We're looking at his whole Satanism talk as like a thinly veiled metaphor that maybe he thinks is true.
This is full on, we're in holy war territory, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, you want to jump a little bit deeper into it?
Because he does spell out some more in this next clip.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, this is like left behind novel situation.
dan friesen
Here we go.
alex jones
Take one look at those people.
They're Renfields too, folks.
jordan holmes
Dracula.
alex jones
They're not doing the blood sucking.
jordan holmes
Dead and loving it.
alex jones
Schumer's got the look, though.
dan friesen
That's 100% a Jewish thing.
jordan holmes
That is definitely a Jewish thing.
dan friesen
He's got the look.
Chuck Schumer is...
People make fun of him because he looks Jewish.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That's like a meme.
Why?
Why are anti-Semites still allowed?
dan friesen
I don't know if he actually is...
He's subconsciously doing that, but he also says that Michael Moore has the look.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So maybe it's not totally Jew-based, but man, come on.
jordan holmes
Woody Allen has the look.
dan friesen
Choose your words a little more carefully, Alex.
Just please, don't accuse Jews of having that evil look.
Just don't do that.
jordan holmes
Mitt Romney doesn't have the look.
I can't think of a reason why.
dan friesen
Anyway, more Dracula talk.
alex jones
Tell you this, Pelosi ain't doing the feed.
Pelosi's a little zombo, totally freaked out by what she's involved in, but on a power trip and arrogant and narcissistic.
But Schumer, that's a big old Dracula walk in this plane.
And Michael Moore has kind of reached Dracula level.
George Soros is a big old Dracula, but there's bigger Draculas back in that shadow.
They turn themselves over to the worst stuff in the universe.
And they know I see them.
jordan holmes
But you can't see him in a mirror.
dan friesen
Honestly, this sounds like a drunk guy at a saloon.
jordan holmes
It really does.
It really does.
So he's doing a four-hour show after this?
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Because that has a...
Yeah.
That's an old-fashioned...
dan friesen
Yeah.
But he doesn't sound drunk like Drunk Alex.
He just sounds like a guy...
jordan holmes
Didn't Val Kilmer deliver that exact same monologue in Tombstone?
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I want to say that was true.
dan friesen
He's like Tellin' Tales.
You know, that sort of thing.
It's Tall Tales with Alex Jones.
Don't worry about him.
jordan holmes
There are bigger Draculas in the shadows.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
Who does he think those people are?
dan friesen
Huge Draculas.
He sees them.
jordan holmes
Like, size-wise?
dan friesen
Yeah, probably, because of the blood.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
Because all the blood rushes to their...
dan friesen
Okay.
I don't know.
jordan holmes
He sees them.
dan friesen
He wouldn't say names, obviously, because that's what keeps him alive.
jordan holmes
But see, that does support your paranoid schizophrenia situation right there.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
There are even bigger ones in the shadows.
Like, I'm fine if he's picking out names, but the bigger ones in the shadows thing, that's really confusing and worrying.
dan friesen
Because he does mention the names like Rothschild and stuff like that that are the sort of modern boogeyman.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
He does talk about George Soros.
So, like, who is over them?
unidentified
Who is the...
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And this goes back to, like, conspiracy narratives as old as time.
It's like, people who are really the power players, you'll never hear their names.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They're the ones who are pulling the strings.
And it's like, okay, that's 100% undisprovable, so let's just have fun.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Speculating wildly.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
The bigger ones in the shadows.
That's such a weird...
dan friesen
It's very weird.
jordan holmes
That's such a weird thing.
dan friesen
He gets fucking weirder.
Would you believe that?
jordan holmes
I totally would.
alex jones
Well, I see them.
That's why I don't have any fear of them.
God, ever submitting to them is death.
Ever having them win is death.
Not for me, not for my ego, but for the species.
Oh, I'm selfish.
I realize my life's like that, but I'm part of the continuum of good people, and I know we're better than them by trillions.
Trillions and trillions of light years.
Total differences in dimensions.
Complete different paradigms.
dan friesen
Totally different dimensions.
jordan holmes
For a guy who tells you how often it is not about his ego, it seems like it's a lot about his ego.
dan friesen
There's a bit of it that feels that way.
It's also incredibly difficult to wrestle with, like, Okay.
This guy is talking about Renfields and Draculas and Big Draculas.
jordan holmes
And 12th Dimensions.
And all this stuff.
And trillions and trillions of light years.
dan friesen
And he's a policy wonk.
You know, like, it just...
It doesn't...
It doesn't work.
The two don't go together.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
If you're a policy wonk, you would need real cataloged information about these here Big Draculas.
You know what I'm saying?
jordan holmes
Do you think...
I would like to note, do you think his listener base is decreasing since he started going full...
dan friesen
No, I think people are enjoying the ride.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
I mean, we clearly are.
dan friesen
I don't think that anyone who's...
I don't want to say...
jordan holmes
If you've been listening to Alex Jones for this long, you're already all in.
You're just going to follow this to the end.
dan friesen
I've read some posts on conspiracy message boards about him in the last couple weeks.
And, unfortunately...
A lot of people who watched the Joe Rogan podcast...
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
A lot of them were like, you know what, it was kind of slow, but at the end when he started talking about trans-dimensional stuff...
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
That's when I realized this guy gets it.
jordan holmes
No!
dan friesen
There's a lot of dumb people out there.
unidentified
No!
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Boo.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So I think actually he's probably picking up that dumb psychonaut.
Kind of group.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And I'm not saying anything against the people who identify as psychonauts.
I think hallucinogens are real cool, and I support people experimenting with them and all that shit.
Right.
jordan holmes
And legalizing prostitution.
dan friesen
There's a lot of really dumb people in that group.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Who have fried their brains with hallucinogens, and I think he's picked up a lot of them.
jordan holmes
So...
dan friesen
So when he starts spouting this Dracula shit, they're like, oh, fuck.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Man.
I wonder if he just eventually picks up that entire world.
Like, he just broadens his base as he gets more and more crazy to the big tent Republican ideology of the 80s.
dan friesen
That would be amazing.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
The other thing, too, though, is because he's using all this dimensional language and Dracula's and coupling that idea with something that is as repugnant and universally hated.
jordan holmes
Pedophilia.
dan friesen
And child abduction and murder.
These sorts of things.
Because he's doing that, the people who are like, oh fuck, that's what it's all about.
It's emotional manipulation.
You take this crazy paranoid delusions and match them with a real world issue and all of a sudden you have an argument that people, they don't want to argue against.
Because if you argue against his Dracula metaphor, it sounds, if you're not...
If you're not thinking, it sounds like you're defending pedophiles.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Well, it's very much like in election years for judges and the like, whenever they're elected, it's statistically proven that that year, they're way tougher on crime than otherwise.
dan friesen
Interesting.
jordan holmes
Because you don't want to be the guy who is not punishing pedophiles enough for people.
dan friesen
Or if you accidentally lock somebody up, the public isn't as turned off by that as if you let someone go and they commit another crime.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
dan friesen
That's interesting.
jordan holmes
I think it's the old Futurama joke where it's like, yeah, but he doesn't want to appear weak on innocent.
unidentified
Yeah, yuck.
dan friesen
Anyway, this...
We're full on into where Alex...
jordan holmes
So yeah, we're not on the major broadcast, so he's really allowed to go full trillions and trillions of light years away from anywhere resembling thought.
dan friesen
And the rest of the clips that I have are essentially a call to action and further insanity.
So enjoy this one.
This one is why we actually maybe shouldn't be all that afraid of globalists, possibly.
At least give it...
I don't know, 20 more years and they shouldn't be a problem.
jordan holmes
Jesus.
alex jones
The good news is globalists can hardly reproduce.
And they're diseased and mentally ill.
That's why they're obsessed with technology and science.
They believe that will make them ascendant.
Because by the inbreeding, they have made themselves susceptible to the spiritual disease they're under.
God almighty.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Oh, wait.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
See?
unidentified
What?
What?
jordan holmes
Okay.
By inbreeding, they've made themselves susceptible to the disease they already have.
dan friesen
Which is what?
Globalism?
jordan holmes
Evil?
Have we established an actual disease?
dan friesen
No, but it's just trying to pair the age.
jordan holmes
Let's call it pneumonia.
Let's call all globalists have pneumonia.
They're inbred.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
They can't reproduce for...
Reasons.
dan friesen
Because of inbreeding.
jordan holmes
Because of inbreeding.
dan friesen
It's just trying to match.
jordan holmes
They're obsessed with technology to ascend as opposed to being obsessed with weird, creepy religion to ascend.
dan friesen
Yes.
unidentified
Gotcha.
dan friesen
The inbred stuff and they can't reproduce is just trying to connect in just people's intrinsic distaste for blue bloods and all the stories of nobility in the past and shit like that.
jordan holmes
Well, and his entire thing is that kind of toxic masculinity.
Where it's like, it is all about being full, you know, I should be able to fight a man, I should be big, I should have a giant dick, I should have perfect sperm, and yada yada yada, that whole thing.
dan friesen
Sure, there is a lot of that.
jordan holmes
So if you, so all of those emasculation narratives can always come into play.
Whether it is...
dan friesen
Oh, they're in play.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're in play.
dan friesen
But also, you know what else is in play?
Weird experimentation.
unidentified
Ooh!
alex jones
See, for one globalist Dracula you see out walking around, there were five or ten hideous experiments.
jordan holmes
They can't do it in the sunlight.
alex jones
Deformed, mentally ill.
I mean, all of them.
The royal families all just locked up huge deals of just completely insane, but I mean, not like your sweet insane persons.
I mean, there's not many of them that can function.
And they can only function when they're doing evil against good people.
See, they need the blood.
And that's metaphysical.
They need your soul.
They need to hurt good people every day or their God deserts them.
They're the most horribly fallen, enslaved people.
They are humans.
jordan holmes
Sure.
alex jones
But all they have is a demonic will to crush good people.
That's all they have.
That's all they'll ever be.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
Man, oh, man.
How could you possibly be against him if that's the side you're on?
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, if all they have is a demonic will to crush people, which, again, we have not established a possible win scenario.
Do they get rid of all of these people?
dan friesen
I guess.
unidentified
Although he's already said that the globalists want to kill us all.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but this is a comic book narrative that he's driving, which is...
Batman doesn't exist without the Joker.
Joker doesn't exist without Batman.
So there's always that yin and yang of good and evil.
dan friesen
Alex Jones doesn't exist without globalists.
jordan holmes
Exactly!
dan friesen
So if Alex Jones wanted to be famous and there were no globalists, he would have to create them.
jordan holmes
He would have no chance.
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Which he might have done.
jordan holmes
We create our own enemies.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what happened in Yemen.
dan friesen
This is what happens a lot.
jordan holmes
This happens all the time.
dan friesen
But it, like...
We're seeing this.
It's so manipulative and so stupid.
jordan holmes
The royal family's experiments.
For every vampire you see walking the streets, which clearly it's nighttime.
dan friesen
But he's not being literal except when he is.
jordan holmes
He did watch...
Or read.
Let's go with watch.
He watched Dracula recently.
dan friesen
You can't stop bringing up goddamn Renfield.
jordan holmes
Dracula is actually a really boring book about economics and xenophobia.
So he definitely did not read that.
He watched the movie, which, Gary Oldman, he disappears into the part.
Amazing.
unidentified
Amazing.
dan friesen
In a way, he has not done sense except in tiptoes.
jordan holmes
His legs disappeared in that part.
Yeah.
From the knees down.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So for every one of those you see, there are five deformed experiments.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So again, we keep...
Moving back and forth from the metaphysical to the physical, because what does the deformed experiment look like?
Do you not see it walking the streets?
dan friesen
They're shackled up.
jordan holmes
So they're shackled up.
So how many globalists are there?
Can we get a basic count?
dan friesen
I have never seen the movie, but is this a Man in the Iron Mask?
jordan holmes
I just wrote down Man in the Iron Mask!
I just wrote down Man in the Iron Mask!
I'm going to show it to you.
dan friesen
You did.
jordan holmes
I wrote it down before you said it.
Again, Leonardo DiCaprio disappears into the role of the man in the iron mask, who looks exactly like not the man in the iron mask.
dan friesen
So, yeah, I don't...
Look, we don't know how many globalists there are.
jordan holmes
But there are those legends of kings and royal families who do have the deformed child that they keep in the attic or whatever.
dan friesen
But that's not an experimentation.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That's just...
I mean, the results of inbreeding.
jordan holmes
But if you want to conspiracy theory that, then yeah, you could say all of those different things.
They're trying to create an ultra-royal family with the inbreeding, yada, yada, yada.
dan friesen
But if you want to conspiracy theory this, or if you want to un-conspiracy theory this, he's just throwing spaghetti at the wall, all this very unrelated, weird, scary things.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's all he's doing.
It's a basic gestalt, as he might put it.
Of just fear.
It's just the fear.
jordan holmes
I want to know, does he ever have notes?
dan friesen
He can't.
jordan holmes
He can't possibly have notes.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
So he is just improv-ing the shit out of this.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
He is a master improviser.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
In the same way that improv isn't funny.
So...
dan friesen
I could do this.
jordan holmes
No, you could not.
dan friesen
I could easily.
jordan holmes
Three hours a day with this level of...
dan friesen
With commercial breaks?
And if you gave me fucking unbridled testosterone pills?
And if I had a built-in narrative that there's evil boogeymen around?
And if you give me every day like three news stories that I barely understand and can just extrapolate on?
Fuck yeah, I could do that.
jordan holmes
I don't think you could do it.
I think it is exactly like one of those situations where you watch a world-class athlete and it looks so easy that you're like, I bet I could probably immediately compete with that.
Like downhill skiing.
Everybody's like, hey, you're just going downhill.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That easy.
dan friesen
We've effortlessly...
We're now at an hour and 40 minutes into this.
jordan holmes
How are we in an hour and 40 minutes?
dan friesen
Exactly.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
We could do...
First of all, we could do five hours a day.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
unidentified
Easily.
jordan holmes
But that's a tag team duo right there.
dan friesen
Right.
Split us up.
We could each do two and a half hours on our own.
jordan holmes
I could definitely not do this.
dan friesen
And if I could just...
jordan holmes
I have no chance of doing this.
dan friesen
And if I'm feeling like, fuck, I'm just not feeling it.
I got to kill 10 minutes.
I'll just throw it to a Rob Dew report or something like that.
That's what he does.
jordan holmes
R-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D- He genuinely thinks the globalists can't reproduce.
dan friesen
I literally don't know how that could be a metaphor.
jordan holmes
I don't...
There's no way.
Other than maybe the idea is that their ideology can't spread because...
unidentified
People wouldn't accept it.
jordan holmes
No, it's literal.
dan friesen
It's literal.
Anyway, this next clip features a real showman-like mood swing.
And I couldn't do this.
I'll do that.
I could do three hours a day.
Easy.
But I couldn't do this.
jordan holmes
As a performer, I think he's really good at this.
dan friesen
Let's not interrupt this just so you can enjoy what I will admit I couldn't do.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
I've set my will against them.
And I'm asking you to set your will against them.
And Trump has set his will against them as well.
And we're going to, like a laser beam, like a particle beam that just gets stronger.
And stronger and stronger.
We're going to just focus and focus on them and do good things in our lives and be honorable and not fear and focus on God and focus on life and focus on blue skies and green fields and little fish swimming around in happy ponds and happy trees and just focus.
Focus on the children.
Focus on them.
We're going to defend them.
The things that have been done to them.
We're going to go against the enemy.
We're going to drive through them and they can feel it.
They can feel God's will going through them.
Laying them low.
Taking them down to the depths they swore they wanted.
Showing them who their God is.
They will fall forever.
I'm going to be on in about 28, 38 minutes.
Infowars.com.
But this rebellion against God will fall.
They already know they're fallen.
They already know they're losers.
They're trying to take us with them.
And everybody knows that in their heart who hasn't been infected by this.
dan friesen
I haven't been infected by it.
jordan holmes
See, you could not...
That is a full Sam Jackson right there.
That is a...
There's a reason you're not in every movie that's been made since the 1990s.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, did you see that swing from talking Bob Ross Happy Trees?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
To, I think about what has been done to the kids, and he starts fake crying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that was the fakest crying.
dan friesen
And then it turns immediately to vengeful wrath.
Like, he's showing so many...
unidentified
And God shall rise up with furious anger!
And lay you low!
And he shall lay you low like Jericho!
dan friesen
Like, if he's...
jordan holmes
Chris Jericho coming up in the next...
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
If he's actually feeling the things he's presenting he's feeling, he's in trouble.
Emotionally, he's in trouble.
jordan holmes
And then we get back to the paranoid schizophrenia.
Because that's an act!
So what is he?
Is he God?
Is he man?
Is he some mix of the two?
Is he the white Sam Jackson?
dan friesen
He has tinges of paranoia and then also horrible reading comprehension skills.
I think that possibly...
jordan holmes
The most dangerous combination.
dan friesen
I don't know.
I obviously don't think he could function the way he does if he was actually mildly schizophrenic.
jordan holmes
He's too functional.
dan friesen
We don't like to think about the idea that this big of a liar could exist in the world.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a good point.
dan friesen
But it's entirely possible that he gets off...
And he's just like, whew, great show today.
jordan holmes
There's every type of monster in the human race, and it seems like this one has to exist.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, his editor recently came out and said he's a complete sellout.
There's a guy who was interviewed who used to work with David Knight and said that before he went to work for Infowars, he was kind of a libertarian guy, but didn't buy into any of this shit.
And as soon as he started working for Infowars, he did.
And so the theory that this guy had was that they know, they're in on the joke.
They know what they're doing.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
Also, apparently, it's come out that InfoWars employees...
I can't find absolute proof of this, but I've seen it cited a couple times, that InfoWars employees have to sign lifelong NDAs, non-disclosure agreements.
jordan holmes
For the next 10 million years?
dan friesen
Yeah, into your next life.
jordan holmes
Like in Scientology?
dan friesen
Basically, yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So, you know, it's entirely possible...
jordan holmes
Lifelong?
That's illegal.
dan friesen
No, it's not.
jordan holmes
That's not illegal?
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
You can do that.
You can sign something.
You can never talk about this.
It's a willful entering into a contract.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You can do it.
It's just sketchy as fuck.
jordan holmes
That's sketchy as fuck.
dan friesen
Because it kind of implies that, like, if word ever gets out that we don't mean what we're saying, then it's going to be really bad for us.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's not trade secrets like a non-compete agreement.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
That's...
Don't...
Tell that we're lying all the time.
dan friesen
That's a trade secret.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Good point.
Good point.
dan friesen
Anyway, here is where...
jordan holmes
You just counter-couped my argument.
dan friesen
And I'm going to counter-counter-coup it with this next quote.
alex jones
We have the technology, the will, the culture, the spirit, all of those things together to build the stairway to heaven.
But building is what does it, not tearing down.
jordan holmes
To heaven.
alex jones
That said, though, when you're faced with pure evil, you have to take it down.
And when the rubble falls, it will crush the innocents.
And that's one of the greatest mysteries to know how far to go.
Because on this plane of existence, good fights fire with fire.
In fact, If good wanted to be evil, it would be infinitely worse than what these fallen people could even imagine.
jordan holmes
That's a really good point.
alex jones
That's why those of us that are good and tied into God have to watch what we say and what we speak into existence with these enemies because these fallen creatures aren't as smart as we are.
And we give them ideas.
So remember that.
dan friesen
That's a weird rationalization.
jordan holmes
But that is a good summation of the way that kind of moral society evolves is if you are good, you always have to have an evil to fight against.
If you're Batman, you always have to have a Joker to fight against.
And so you wind up creating your own evil.
So that, you know...
We can go too far thing is the reality of any kind of morality based system.
dan friesen
I don't disagree with that.
jordan holmes
Is that sooner or later it's going to require a purity that is not possible?
dan friesen
Fair.
But also I don't like the idea that it's going to crush the innocents.
There's going to be collateral damage.
jordan holmes
Why is that crushing the innocents?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
If you take evil down it crushes the innocents?
dan friesen
I don't know.
But then also the other part is like that's why we have to be careful about what we say.
jordan holmes
Because we bring it into the world and we're so much smarter than evil.
dan friesen
We've done maybe 10, 12 episodes of this show.
One thing I can say with absolute certainty is that Alex never watches what he says.
That's the most crazy thing for him to say ever.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
I know a lot of things in life and there's a lot of stuff I don't know.
What I do know is that he has never stopped himself from saying something.
Unless it was intentional.
jordan holmes
Even if it's classified.
dan friesen
Yeah.
The only times he stops himself is when he's like, oh, fuck, I'm gonna expose that I don't know.
I better say, I'm not gonna get into that.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
We're going to go to a break.
We're going to go to a real quick break.
dan friesen
Anyway, Alex has one last parting shot for this special report, which again was supposed to be about that article that was in Foreign Policy.
jordan holmes
That's right!
Every time we get to the end of the episode, I have no idea what we started the episode with.
dan friesen
It was supposed to be about Flynn and about the article in Foreign Policy.
Neither of those things will be covered, but we've learned a lot about Dracula.
jordan holmes
Well, it is called Foreign Affairs, even though it's not...
Actually called foreign policy.
dan friesen
It is called foreign policy.
jordan holmes
He was right when he said that it's called foreign affairs.
dan friesen
He can't lie even when he lies.
jordan holmes
Even when he lies, he's telling the truth.
dan friesen
Anyway, this is his parting shot to the report, which is ominous.
alex jones
You want to get sucked into vampire holes with these people, go ahead.
But I want to warn all of you that are cynical and giggling that serve the system, you know deep down I'm right if you've got any spirit left, any soul left.
I'm Alex Jones, and you have been warned.
unidentified
Yikes.
jordan holmes
You have been warned.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You have been warned.
dan friesen
I don't want to go into vampire holes.
jordan holmes
I don't!
dan friesen
But I also would never side with Alex.
jordan holmes
I worry if that's our binary.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Vampire holes or Alex Jones?
dan friesen
That sucks.
jordan holmes
That is a rough binary.
dan friesen
That is like...
Fuck it.
Why did I get bored?
jordan holmes
Yeah, but, you know, if you've read the Anne Rice vampire life seems pretty alright.
I would go down to the vampire hole.
unidentified
Wouldn't you?
dan friesen
If we're talking literal vampires...
jordan holmes
Wouldn't you go down to the vampire hole?
dan friesen
If we're talking Twilight...
jordan holmes
Come on down to the vampire hole.
dan friesen
Great Hank Williams Sr. song.
If we're talking literal vampires...
jordan holmes
Maybe.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
If we're talking his weird child molesting vampire, no thank you.
jordan holmes
No, but that's a bad vampire.
dan friesen
That's a very bad vampire.
jordan holmes
I would not read a book on that vampire.
dan friesen
Do you think that in the world of vampires then there's a sliding scale of morality and that you could be a good vampire?
jordan holmes
No, but there is a sliding scale of insurance payments.
That is, you know, every vampire needs good health care.
dan friesen
So that's the end of this special report that he did.
But it's not the end of our episode.
jordan holmes
Oh no!
dan friesen
Oh no.
unidentified
Uh oh.
dan friesen
I have a couple bonus clips from Tuesday's episode.
jordan holmes
Bonus clips!
dan friesen
As you'll recall.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He said in his special report, which he aired before his Tuesday show.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He said he was going to read that entire foreign policy article on the show.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And I told you, he didn't.
jordan holmes
He didn't.
dan friesen
But he keeps saying he's going to throughout the show.
jordan holmes
Ha ha ha ha!
Can we just get a super clip of every time he says that he says that?
dan friesen
Because I have a 9 to 5 job, I did not have the time to isolate.
30 times.
jordan holmes
You are slacking off.
dan friesen
He gets sidetracked by everything.
Sean Spicer is doing a news conference and he's like, look, we'll get back to the article.
Let's go to this.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
And so he just cuts away and gets distracted and goes off on a bunch of tangents.
I have a couple of them.
This first one is about Fifty Shades of Grey, the sequel.
jordan holmes
Fifty-year shades of gray, I believe.
dan friesen
And then it's sort of about how it's eventually going to lead us to movies about how it's cool to have sex with kids.
alex jones
So, that's what's going on in this country.
Is you got a bunch of scum on top who are into really bad stuff, and even get into their club, you've got to do horrible things.
And they know their whole party...
dan friesen
That's, again, his whole idea that in order to get into the elite groups...
jordan holmes
You have to fuck a kid.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's like getting jumped into a gang.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you have to kill your first man.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's basically that everyone has to have blackmail on each other or else the system doesn't work.
I don't believe that that's how the world works.
jordan holmes
It's just a bad system.
dan friesen
Seems untenable.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
alex jones
Is in trouble.
Let's skip this break.
unidentified
They know that...
alex jones
Their whole shindig is in trouble because they went so far publicly saying they were going to teach pedophilia to kids.
Sexualizing them.
unidentified
What?
alex jones
Publicly trying to legalize Nambla.
unidentified
No!
alex jones
Publicly saying mothers and fathers are bad.
dan friesen
No one said that mothers and fathers are bad.
jordan holmes
Nobody tried to publicly legalize Nambla.
dan friesen
No, but I think...
jordan holmes
Is Nambla real?
Isn't that from Arrested Development?
dan friesen
No, that's mother boy.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
I got you.
That's right, mother boy.
alex jones
Publicly saying there's 50 and then 100 genders and you can't have a men's bathroom or a women's bathroom because somebody else might not be a man or a woman just to make you feel bad for existing.
Total societal attack.
And the intelligence agencies can't help but run across all the weird occultic stuff that the elites are into.
It runs the gamut, but it's just an entire sewer.
of different garbage floating through it with the things they're into, but it's all about hurting in a sense, degradating people, dominating, enslaving.
That's why they've got, you know, Fifty Shades of Grey, then a new one comes out, and it's more intense, and now people are getting killed, being part of it, you know, choking to death, and then the hospitals are having all these emergency calls, and then next it'll be, oh, killing somebody, and then next, raping a child.
See, that's how they, successive approximation.
People say, well, it is kind of fun to slap your wife on the butt.
They like it.
Well, that's not hurting somebody.
That's fun.
They like it.
You like it.
That's not actually hurting somebody.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
Where's this going?
alex jones
But they take something innocent like that, and then they extrapolate it out to the U.N. saying, legalize men being able to pick up children up to five years old.
If you're a five-year-old or you're a son or daughter, Wants to go out with some pot-bellied pedophile that comes knocking on your door.
The UN and some countries like Sweden are actually looking at legalizing and saying, oh, your child can have man-boy love.
jordan holmes
They're not.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
They're very much not.
Also, if a pot-bellied pedophile comes to your door and says, I want to take your five-year-old out on a date, that's bad parenting.
dan friesen
Definitely.
jordan holmes
Even if it's legal.
Even if it's legal, that's just bad parenting.
dan friesen
I also have two important points to make about this.
If Alex really wants to get into the nations of Renaissance and the great Western cultures, he's got to look at Greece.
jordan holmes
Not good.
dan friesen
In Greek culture...
Men could fuck children.
jordan holmes
They totally could.
dan friesen
But it was only if it wasn't based in lust, if it was based in love and respect.
jordan holmes
And also...
dan friesen
Generally, underage boys would fuck their teachers.
jordan holmes
It was generally that.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It was generally man-on-man nonsense.
dan friesen
So, I mean, if...
First of all, Sweden's not doing this.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But if you're going to...
Hey, look at the classical...
Classical Western civilization.
jordan holmes
Let's not.
Let's just not.
Let's just let that one go.
The going from, oh, you're slapping your wife on the ass, and that's enjoyable for both people.
And now the UN is legalizing boy fucking!
dan friesen
Yeah, that's a crazy swing.
jordan holmes
That is a very quick escalation there.
dan friesen
Yeah, but then the other thing I want to bring up is the idea that if your kid wants to fuck this pot-bellied pedophile, they should have the right to.
He's had Milo Yiannopoulos on twice in the last week and a half or so for interviews.
Milo's talked about how when he was underage, he fucked older dudes and how he was the aggressor in it.
So that's kind of what Alex is talking about.
jordan holmes
I don't want to be here right now.
Why are you making me feel bad?
dan friesen
I don't know.
So, I mean, it's just like, it's a little...
You know, you want to talk to Milo about that?
You want to grill him on it?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I mean, maybe that's not his position, but who cares?
jordan holmes
We did get called out for our Milo commentary, and I don't necessarily disagree with all of what we were criticized about.
I do want to make the point that Milo is a Nazi, and all conversations should end right there.
dan friesen
Come on, man.
Don't antagonize the good listeners.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
But, yeah, I will say it was a little iffy of us not to listen on the show to the thing that we said we were going to listen to.
jordan holmes
Yeah, boy, it was just so hard.
dan friesen
It was.
jordan holmes
He made me feel so bad.
Just like all of what's happening in these last two clips.
dan friesen
Well, I'll tell you this.
This one's a little more fun.
In this clip, I believe Alex Jones makes the argument that science fiction is a conspiracy.
alex jones
The government's, like, divided into two.
There's a civil war going on.
jordan holmes
True.
alex jones
And the bureaucracy is, the people in a lot of control positions are obviously Obama people.
Remember how he put tens of thousands of new people in before he left?
Like every president?
Just putting moles in everywhere.
I mean, this is so seditious.
And then they tell us, when they're the globalist takeover army, they're the corporate invaders.
It'd be like if aliens invaded.
dan friesen
By the way, I want to say this real quick.
This is one of my favorite clips we've ever pulled.
So get ready for that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
This won't let you down.
jordan holmes
All right.
You're building this up.
This better be fucking...
This better deliver.
dan friesen
This is also further evidence that Alex believes the stuff he says that he doesn't believe.
alex jones
Okay.
dan friesen
There's more of that in here, too.
unidentified
God damn it.
jordan holmes
He's such a conundrum.
dan friesen
He's not.
He's an idiot.
alex jones
And we had a president that got elected to deal with the threat, and the aliens pointed their finger and said, no, the Russians are the threat, because Trump was talking to the Russians about fighting the aliens.
Because globalism is alien.
It's a new form of government.
It's global.
It's oppressive.
It's anti-human.
It's satanic.
It's directed by a fallen off-world entity.
And they make fun of that on the Young Turks and in Huffington Post and the New York Times.
Oh, Jones believes an off-world entity is directing humanity to destroy itself.
Yeah, that's what every major culture believes.
And I'm Christian and the Jews believe that too.
And you know what?
You look around, that's what's going on.
And then you find out the world leaders are praying to it and believe they're getting satanic knowledge on how to fight us.
You know what?
You go study the British families in the 1850s that did all this.
jordan holmes
What?
alex jones
And they openly believe they're channeling this stuff and then envisioned DNA, envisioned biometrics, envisioned all the major sciences, computers, and then went out and told their scientists, start developing it.
And they said, we've got to have the general public hear about this so that the inventors come forward.
So they had H.G. Wells in the 1890s and things and others start writing this knowing that the elites couldn't come up with it, but they'd been given the knowledge.
So they believed that they put out basically the basic template in predictive programming that then, because we're made in the image of God, we're master builders, that there would be humans that would then build it because they heard about it.
dan friesen
Did you understand that?
jordan holmes
Wait, wait.
dan friesen
We gotta diagram it.
jordan holmes
Wait, what?
dan friesen
We gotta diagram it.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
So.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
So Satan's up here.
jordan holmes
Right.
Satan's at the top.
dan friesen
Yeah.
And he is this extra dimension.
jordan holmes
Or at least satanic thinking is at the top.
dan friesen
Or demons or whatever.
jordan holmes
Whatever it is you want to go with.
dan friesen
So they're at the top.
jordan holmes
Then we have the 1850s British government.
dan friesen
And they're globalists.
jordan holmes
They're globalists.
dan friesen
And they're channeling this satanic force.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And it tells them.
jordan holmes
So they're channeling it not...
So I thought we were starting with off-world entities that both the Christians and the Jews believe.
dan friesen
Well, no, that's because...
He's trying to appeal to the idea of, like, they believe in Satan.
He's a fallen angel.
jordan holmes
So that's what we're talking about as off-world entities.
Because him saying off-world is kind of very much like, hey, you know these Martians are coming to the 1850s British government that gets the knowledge that these things are possible.
They plant it in the brain of H.G. Wells, who...
Who, hey, he did build a working time machine.
I think we all know that's true.
dan friesen
It's a great podcast.
I miss it very much.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know, right?
dan friesen
But no, no, so you're skipping a step.
jordan holmes
Dead Authors Podcast.
dan friesen
You're skipping a step.
So the satanic people, the globalists channel this information.
They find all the knowledge.
They want to tell scientists to make it.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
But they know.
Fuck, people are going to know we got this information from somewhere.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
They're going to be freaked out by this.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
So they tell science fiction authors to write stories.
jordan holmes
Who would definitely not be freaked out by that at all.
dan friesen
About the stuff that they have gotten the demonic information about.
So when the public finds out about it, they're ready for it because they've read about it in science fiction.
jordan holmes
That is such a needlessly complicated plan.
dan friesen
We talk about Occam's Razor.
jordan holmes
Just hire a dude.
dan friesen
Also, like...
jordan holmes
Apparently you can sign a non-disclosure for your entire life.
dan friesen
And I mean, you brought up The Time Machine.
That's a book by H.G. Wells.
Still don't have one of those.
Invisible Man.
jordan holmes
Or do we?
Or do we?
Predictive programming!
dan friesen
Invisible Man.
jordan holmes
Yep, we have invisible people now.
dan friesen
War of the Worlds.
jordan holmes
I saw Ghost in the Shell.
dan friesen
I don't know the rest of H.G. Wells' bibliography, but...
jordan holmes
I think you got the highlights.
dan friesen
I think none of them have been invented.
Anyway, he spouts...
jordan holmes
H.G. Wells.
dan friesen
He goes more on this, and at the end of my clip description is just, Alex is an idiot.
alex jones
I mean, that sounds like a science fiction movie.
That's what you're living for.
jordan holmes
You just referenced a science fiction!
Okay.
alex jones
So while they've got you obsessed with UFOs and, you know, crashed rockets and weather balloons and all this, that's not where this stuff came from.
It came from the other dimensions.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
It's like that goofy movie Pacific Rim.
We thought the aliens would come from outer space.
They came from a rift in the time-space continuum, a blast gate in the deep, deep ocean.
jordan holmes
So wait, that was real?
alex jones
That's basically what it is, but it's not 500-yard tall dinosaurs.
jordan holmes
Because that would be way more fun.
alex jones
And then you could say, well, that's just insanity.
But I talked to top psychiatrists, psychologists, genetic engineers, all of them believe in God now.
unidentified
All of them know it's a demonic, interstellar, intergalactic, interdimensional deal.
alex jones
I mean, that's what Christians all believe.
There's a fallen devil.
It wants to overthrow creation, do horrible things.
In the days of men, when all this was happening, there were giants and the seed wasn't clean because they'd genetically manipulated God's design.
jordan holmes
Wait.
That's in the Bible?
alex jones
And so God had to wipe off all the life on Earth.
jordan holmes
All the come off.
alex jones
And start over.
And then we dig up all this fantastical stuff.
And they tell us, oh, that's billions of years old.
Folks, we're living in the middle of a fantastic forbidden planet.
dan friesen
I think he was saying there at the end that dinosaurs are fake.
jordan holmes
I think he just did say that.
dan friesen
I think he Eddie Bravo'd this thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
No, he was doing the C.S. Lewis Off This Planet trilogy right there.
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
This coming dark.
God damn it.
I don't remember it.
It's C.S. Lewis.
He wrote this series of science fiction novels.
Which were weird.
Like, you know how the Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe were thinly veiled...
dan friesen
Christ allegories.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
This one is even more batshit.
Uh-huh.
And that's pretty much what he was just describing right there.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
But also, what the fuck was he just describing right there?
dan friesen
I'm not going to do this because that clip's really long, but I almost want to listen to it again.
jordan holmes
I kind of do, too.
unidentified
I still don't understand what it was.
dan friesen
I'm going to play it back.
jordan holmes
We're not billions of years old.
I think we can establish that.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Right?
dan friesen
No, because he made that noise.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So even way back when, people were genetically engineering the seed because there were giant people?
dan friesen
That would have been like 2,000 years ago.
jordan holmes
So there were giant people.
Then God gave the flood.
Now, I think he is referencing the flood, which was only about 4,000 years ago.
dan friesen
But he's talking about the Elohim and what have you.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Not the Elohim.
jordan holmes
Which, again, in the Bible is nowhere pointed out that Lucifer is a fallen angel.
There's no devil.
dan friesen
No, but there are a couple of verses that talk about angels came down and bred with human women.
And it was an abomination.
jordan holmes
And it sounds fucking sexy to me.
dan friesen
So, like, there are a couple of weird verses in the Old Testament that could be...
jordan holmes
Well, because it's not fucking real.
dan friesen
Could be metaphorical, also, even within that non-real.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But a lot of people glom onto those and they're like, oh, this is proof of fucking giants.
jordan holmes
Uh, yeah.
Well, isn't there those...
There's the references to terrible lizards, and that's why people say that dinosaurs were actually a short while ago.
dan friesen
Those giants are probably why we had the floods to begin with.
jordan holmes
They were too tall.
They were just too tall.
dan friesen
So, use a little bit more on this clip.
jordan holmes
If it had only rained for 39 days and 39 nights, they would still be right above the water.
They would still be able to breathe.
It was that last day.
dan friesen
They put their head up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
They had snorkels?
dan friesen
They can't tread water is the thing.
Much like globalists can't reproduce.
jordan holmes
True fact, if there's anything you take away from our podcast, it is that giants can't tread water.
dan friesen
Let's see what the rest of this clip is.
alex jones
Okay, and I'm telling you, the elite, they know the secrets.
I don't know them all.
I've just reverse engineered it, studied it, and read their writings, and watch what they're doing.
But either this is all true, and they're completely insane, or they're just completely insane.
I'm not saying I believe any of it.
jordan holmes
Or...
alex jones
But I know this.
They want to turn over Western society to a bunch of radical Islamic men because they hate Christianity and they hate women.
That's why I tell you all day how much they love women.
Because the globalists absolutely hate women.
dan friesen
Globalists hate women.
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
Globalists hate women.
jordan holmes
Okay, so, one.
Dinosaurs?
Only 6,000 years old.
dan friesen
Dinosaurs?
jordan holmes
Because of that.
dan friesen
Maybe.
jordan holmes
Because of that, we know that Western society is opening its doors to Islamic men.
Yeah.
Because they hate Christianity.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And they hate women.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Says the guy who called a woman sweetcakes 45 fucking...
dan friesen
Aggressively to her face.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Like a fucking...
dan friesen
When she called him out on being drunk.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I hope...
I hope...
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But it's the globalists that hate women.
jordan holmes
It's the globalists that hate women.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
So, but like, I think that's fucking crazy.
jordan holmes
That's fucking crazy.
dan friesen
What I think is more important is that like, I don't believe this, that's what they believe.
jordan holmes
You listen to that last four minutes.
dan friesen
Don't fucking tell me he doesn't believe that.
jordan holmes
The argument that he made was either they believe this and they're insane.
Or they're just insane.
And at no point does he go like...
Or...
dan friesen
I'm insane.
jordan holmes
Or I'm maybe insane.
dan friesen
Guys, it's possible I've lost it.
jordan holmes
If he had one moment of clarity on his show, just one moment where he's like...
Holy shit, guys.
I don't know if I actually believe any of this shit.
dan friesen
Guys, I've gone native.
unidentified
I have no idea what's going on anymore.
jordan holmes
Hey, listen.
Colonel Kurtz, he dead.
dan friesen
I am high on my own supply.
I don't fucking know anymore.
jordan holmes
Do not use this toothpaste.
It will drive you insane.
It's blue.
Isn't that a sign?
unidentified
I'm trying to sell you crushed up bone pills.
dan friesen
When do you realize I'm crazy?
Oh, man.
It's like he's seeing how far he can get before people are, like, uniformly, like, shut the fuck up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that would be...
Oh, is there...
Is there...
dan friesen
High-performance trolling.
That's...
jordan holmes
Is there any line?
Do you think there's any line?
unidentified
Hmm.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No, there can't be.
unidentified
Not at this point.
jordan holmes
If we're already past multiple dimensions, vampires are real.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Everybody's a pedophile.
dan friesen
Yeah, everyone who's not on his side.
jordan holmes
Globalists can't reproduce.
Dinosaurs, maybe not even real at all.
dan friesen
Maybe not.
jordan holmes
Giants.
Science fiction is how the globalists taught us technology from the devil.
unidentified
What is there left to say?
I don't know.
dan friesen
Like outright turning it into a Nazi organization.
jordan holmes
Really?
Because we're on the, if not on the edge, no.
We're way into Nazi organization.
You've already, he just hasn't called himself a Nazi.
dan friesen
We're dog-whistly at this point.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Like he, I don't think, I don't know how much of his audience would follow him if he was just like, guys, gotta be honest, it's the Jews.
jordan holmes
You know what?
You're right.
You're right.
dan friesen
I think a good percentage would, but I think he'd lose some.
jordan holmes
I think a pretty solid percentage would.
dan friesen
A bigger percentage than we wanted.
jordan holmes
Than we would hope.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
No, because, yeah, and I think you're right, because he does go out of his way to be like, oh, what was it that he said that Trump was going to build factories in black areas?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, which isn't in that article.
jordan holmes
I don't know what it was that...
Is that a good thing?
dan friesen
Well, he's...
jordan holmes
I mean, he's insinuating that black people are going to work in these factories.
dan friesen
He's hearkening back to the idea that Trump knows that inner cities need more jobs and that will fix everything and that he's going to...
jordan holmes
Which, again, not...
Not just black people living in our cities.
dan friesen
Very much true.
Also reductive in terms of what the actual issues are.
jordan holmes
And very racist on its own.
dan friesen
Yeah, on its face.
jordan holmes
He's saying that like he's a racial justice warrior when it's exactly the opposite.
dan friesen
Paul Joseph Watson would hate that.
jordan holmes
Yeah, PJ Dubbs, not a fan.
dan friesen
No.
But, like, I can't get away from this.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
The argument that he's putting forth about satanic forces giving the globalists...
Their information...
jordan holmes
The 1850s British globalists!
dan friesen
That they then fed to H.G. Wells.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
That's not what the globalists believe.
He believes that.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
He believes that based on his quote-unquote research.
jordan holmes
His reverse engineering.
dan friesen
Which is...
Okay.
jordan holmes
Sure.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But, like, he can't dodge that by saying, I don't believe this, it's what they believe.
jordan holmes
No, that one's purely his.
dan friesen
And that's what...
jordan holmes
If anything else is...
That one's the one that we can point to that is, you really believe that insanity.
dan friesen
That's the craziest part of that last clip.
And if he tries to dodge the idea that, you know, satanic forces exist and they can influence people and these global...
jordan holmes
Draculas aren't real.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
He can't dodge that because it's in that clip.
jordan holmes
Yep.
unidentified
He's literally saying he believes that Satan gives...
dan friesen
Technological advances to the globalists.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
He has to believe that what they believe is real.
Yeah.
dan friesen
He has to.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or else, I don't know what the other option is.
jordan holmes
But it's a holy war.
That's what he's...
Well, that's implied.
Just like that's what you're fighting.
dan friesen
Not really.
jordan holmes
No.
Otherwise, you wouldn't have me on to giggle like a lunatic.
dan friesen
No, I'm just doing this to hang out with you.
I just like wine.
jordan holmes
That is the tagline to this podcast.
Knowledge fight.
Eh, we just like wine.
No, there's no way.
No.
dan friesen
There's no way around it.
jordan holmes
That one's nuts.
He's in on it.
He's all in.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I have one more clip, and it's from about an hour and 40 minutes into Tuesday's episode.
jordan holmes
And about three and a half hours into this episode.
dan friesen
Yeah.
This is where he finally gets into the article.
He finally gets into it.
jordan holmes
How many sentences?
Oh no, actually you already know.
I'm going to go with he manages to make it he interrupts in the first sentence.
He makes it total through four sentences maximum.
dan friesen
Okay, let's see.
alex jones
Let me hit some of this article.
I'll go over more of it with David.
dan friesen
Make no mistake, I cut it before David Knight comes up.
jordan holmes
Thank God.
alex jones
The Kremlin is starting to worry about Trump.
And the article really doesn't say much about that.
It's more of just a communication of the world that...
dan friesen
The article does actually say...
I'm sorry that I interrupted it, but it does say quite a bit about that.
alex jones
Exactly that.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
Trump's for real, and he's super dangerous because he's real.
Now listen to this.
The last thing the Russian government expected was that 2017 would bring it face-to-face with not a revolution of the past, because they say they're canceling the Bolshevik Revolution celebration for the 100th year anniversary.
Putin doesn't like it.
He says it's bad.
unidentified
Wait, did we read any of the actual article?
dan friesen
I read that first paragraph that was talking about the Bolshevik Revolution and the 100-year thing.
jordan holmes
No, no, no, I mean him just now.
dan friesen
I think he read about a sentence.
jordan holmes
And then he interrupted with his own commentary?
unidentified
Boom!
jordan holmes
One point for Jordan!
alex jones
Putin was a secret acolyte of Alexander Sheldson.
That's all.
dan friesen
That cannot be true.
alex jones
...admitted now and doesn't like communism and what the West did to Russia.
And he wants Russia to become a superpower and be strong and free markets.
They have people getting married, having kids, Christian, anti-globalists.
They're banning the tranny bathrooms, okay?
dan friesen
They're also...
jordan holmes
Great, great.
dan friesen
Yeah, fuck you.
unidentified
Great.
Hey, how about...
jordan holmes
Fuck you.
dan friesen
You know what else they're doing?
They're making it not a crime to beat your wife.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I know.
I saw that.
unidentified
Cool.
jordan holmes
That's awesome.
Take that, globalists.
dan friesen
Good job, Christian nation.
jordan holmes
All of these globalists making it illegal to beat your wife.
dan friesen
Yeah, great.
jordan holmes
Spare the rod.
Spoil the wife.
alex jones
They're the opposite of Hollywood.
And Hollywood knows it.
Christianity's coming back there.
It's real.
And all the Cold War brainwashers don't want people to believe the proof of what's happening.
And Soros has been trying to overthrow it desperately.
So the last thing Russian government expects in 2017 would bring it face-to-face, not with the revolution of the past, but with the revolution of the present.
The radical regime change taking place in the United States as a result of the electoral victory of Donald Trump.
It is Trump's electoral revolution that has captured the imagination and fanned the fears of Russian elites.
That's not true.
They're breaking completely with communism and this whole free market model.
jordan holmes
I think that was five sentences.
dan friesen
No, that wasn't.
jordan holmes
You don't think so?
Well, I know he transitioned into the words of the article because those were not his words.
dan friesen
No, it might have been like three sentences.
jordan holmes
Might have been three sentences?
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
But then he's like, that's not true.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
I don't know.
alex jones
And embracing it.
jordan holmes
Two points for Jordan.
alex jones
No.
Now it gets into the truth, though.
They go on to say Trump isn't narcissistic and mentally ill.
He's actually a hardcore revolutionary that believes in Americanism.
Listen to this.
The search for a key to Trump's mind-boggling and miscellaneous gusher of policy directives has tended to focus on his disturbingly erratic Vindictive, simplistic, narcissistic, insecure, and occasionally delusional personality.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's a really good idea.
alex jones
That's not the case.
Exception being made for those conspiracy theorists who treat him as a kind of Manchurian candidate or sock puppet of the Kremlin.
jordan holmes
Like Alex Jones.
alex jones
This is the CIA, right, sister, saying he's not a Russian agent.
He's worse.
Get ready.
dan friesen
The CIA didn't write this.
alex jones
What most observers have been late to recognize is the extent to which behind his mask as a showman.
Trump views himself as a revolutionary insurgent with a mission to dismantle America's old regime.
And that's the secret.
Then they go on and say, Russia, they're going to dismantle you.
He means it.
He means it.
Come on.
Come on.
You don't really want to do this, do you?
He's going to take over.
It's like selling snow cones in hell to promote freedom over the globalists.
dan friesen
Everybody wants one.
jordan holmes
Wait.
Snow cones in hell.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
To free the globalists?
To free yourself from the globalists, everybody wants one.
dan friesen
It's like selling snowballs in hell in order to...
jordan holmes
Yeah, okay, now I get the metaphor.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So one of the things that's important is the quote that he was reading was correct, but the important word there, I think, is views.
And that is that Trump views himself as a revolutionary insurgent.
jordan holmes
Do you really think he does?
dan friesen
Possibly.
jordan holmes
I don't think he views himself as anything other than a big ball of...
Small Trumps wearing a big Trump suit.
dan friesen
But, I mean, it could be generous, perhaps, but the article goes on to say Trump's tactics certainly belong in the classic revolutionary playbook.
His shock and awe style of executive action is designed to rattle Congress, catch his opponents unprepared, and incite his base to wage war on the establishment.
That's a fair assessment.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Likes to keep people on their toes and what have you.
jordan holmes
I mean, not a lot of revolutionaries are dealing with Congress.
Like, Che Guevara wasn't like, oh, I'm gonna get that Congress.
dan friesen
Yeah.
But when he says that the article is called the Kremlin is starting to be worried about Trump, and he's like, they don't talk about that at all.
jordan holmes
Sure, sure.
dan friesen
They do.
jordan holmes
I'm sure the other...
I'm sure Russia...
dan friesen
The article goes on to describe Lenin and the revolution that the Germans allowed to go on with the Bolsheviks and how...
The conversations with Russian policymakers and experts indicate they are starting to have similar fears and doubts today about the revolution that Trump is going on with.
Let me scroll down here.
They were celebrating Trump winning the election.
jordan holmes
Of course they were.
dan friesen
Now that Trump is in power, political elites in Moscow have stopped cheering.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I believe that.
dan friesen
They recognize that Russia's position has become abruptly and agonizingly complex.
It's true that Trump's ascension opens up the possibility of normalizing Russia's relations with the West, beginning with a reduction or even elimination of sanctions.
It also validates a lot of Russia's ideological criticisms of the liberal order and may perhaps foreshadow policy reversals that Moscow has long been doing.
Such as the Cold War.
Alliance breaking up and disentanglement from Ukraine.
jordan holmes
Do you know what I didn't consider until just now while you were reading that?
dan friesen
That this is boring?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Not that this is boring.
Although you did say that off mic.
I don't know if you guys heard that.
He just told me that this was boring.
No, I didn't consider...
dan friesen
I'm a policy wonk.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we got to get into this.
I didn't actually consider that maybe at this point Russia is thinking...
This is going to blow up in our fucking faces.
dan friesen
That's kind of what this article is about.
jordan holmes
Because they have to be thinking that, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Like, just looking at what's going on in our country.
Like, Flynn going down has to be the one where they're like, we did not see that coming.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
That is a big oh, shit moment for them.
dan friesen
But Trump's revolution is also ushering in a period of turmoil and uncertainty, including the likelihood of self-defeating trade wars.
Still traumatized by the disintegration of the Soviet Union, Russia's present leader...
jordan holmes
I don't think they're doing a great job of avoiding global instability, considering what they're doing right now.
dan friesen
This gets into a little bit later about how, because Trump is erratic, unpredictable, it's taking away that as a tool that Putin can use.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
Because he was the one who would...
Like, go around normal traditions and stuff like that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
And now he can't use that as heavy a punch.
jordan holmes
He created a monster.
dan friesen
Well, because...
jordan holmes
And it turns out he can't control the monster.
Unless he actually...
So that kind of really then puts into question whether or not he really has blackmail material on Trump.
Because right now, it's not going his way.
dan friesen
I mean, maybe not in the short term.
jordan holmes
Well, we haven't lifted the sanctions yet, have we?
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
That would be a calamity.
jordan holmes
Yeah, there's no way we wind up doing that.
dan friesen
No, I don't know.
jordan holmes
So the stated objective for Putin, I think, not stated, it's in the white papers.
Everybody knows this.
You guys don't read it, but I read it, and I'm going to report it to you.
The assumed objective we have for Putin, that idea, is to create that instability in America.
That way he can dismantle or at least pick apart at the EU.
That will give him the opening to then create trade agreements outside of the EU.
dan friesen
The only possible endgame is creating chaos in our political system.
jordan holmes
And then retaking the Soviet Union because Putin's really just kind of nostalgic.
dan friesen
But that's almost exactly what we speculated ten episodes back.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but that's what I'm saying.
That's what we're thinking.
Now, based on what you're reading right now...
It seems like that's not going according to plan at all.
dan friesen
Possibly.
Possibly.
I don't know.
Anyway, I want to get through this because I hate reading.
jordan holmes
In which you share a solid quality with our patron saint, Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Yeah, but I do it if I'm going to talk about an article.
That's the difference.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
dan friesen
So when he talked about them announcing that they're going to kill Trump.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
The only thing I can base that on is this next line.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
What the Kremlin fears most today is that Trump may be ousted or even killed.
That's the only line that has anything to do with it, and I don't think that they're saying they're worried that that's what's going to happen.
It's just that that would be a bad outcome.
jordan holmes
It would be a bad outcome.
And they should be worried.
dan friesen
His ouster, Kremlin insiders argue, is bound to unleash a virulent and bipartisan anti-Russian campaign in Washington.
jordan holmes
Agreed.
dan friesen
Oddly, therefore, Putin has become a hostage to Trump's survival and success.
This seriously restricted Russia's geopolitical options.
The Kremlin is perfectly aware that Democrats want to use Russia to discredit and possibly impeach Trump, while Republican elites want to use Russia to deflate and discipline Trump.
The Russian government fears not only Trump's downfall, of course, but also the possibility that he could opportunistically switch to a tough anti-Moscow line in order to make peace with the hawkish Republican leaders in Congress.
jordan holmes
Jesus Christ!
dan friesen
That's what's in this article!
jordan holmes
And that is brilliant!
That is...
Wow!
No matter how much I think about foreign policy, which I do kind of really think about it a lot, it's constantly reminding me that...
This game is so ridiculously complex.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Now consider this.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
Trump's presidency has also complicated Moscow's relations with China and Iran.
jordan holmes
Chi-coms.
dan friesen
Moscow is interested in normalization with the West, but not at the cost of joining a Washington-led anti-China coalition, which Trump seems insistent on creating.
jordan holmes
He really wants it.
dan friesen
Moreover, Putin's Russia hosts up to 20 million Muslims and therefore cannot indulge in the radical anti-Islam rhetoric adopted by Trump.
jordan holmes
Holy shit.
alex jones
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This is fucking chaos.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
So now we're looking at if Russia...
So they did have an influence on the election.
There's no denying that.
dan friesen
Yes, but this article, even whenever they're talking about that, they make it very clear that it's unclear what kind of definitive role they played, or if the influence that they had was decisive.
jordan holmes
And that's agreed.
But they did have some role.
Whether or not it was a deciding role or whatever, there was...
dan friesen
This article would argue that Putin was mostly against the idea of Hillary because she was against his actions in Ukraine.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Because she would have been really tough on Russia.
Almost aggressively so, to maybe our detriment.
dan friesen
It's hard to say whether being too lax or too strict is the worst thing.
jordan holmes
Well, and as we can see from this fucking article, who the goddamn hell knows what's going to happen when you push a little button, because now there are 10 million different scenarios that might wind up happening.
And I agree.
Which, it seems inevitable that Trump will be...
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
In some fashion or another.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And it will almost certainly be because of his ties to Russia, which means that Russia will be our biggest bad guy.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's Red Dawn.
We're fighting Red Dawn.
That's what's happening right now.
dan friesen
I mean, I haven't done a ton of research into it, but there were stories coming out today of Russian fighter planes buzzing our ships and stuff like that.
Like, I think that's not, like, war game stuff, but it's, like, it's testing.
jordan holmes
It is.
dan friesen
It's fucking, it's wagon dick, at least.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which is a bad idea if you're Russia.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't want that to be the end result, but I think if we could all just go back to a maintaining of what was going on three months ago, maybe it would be pretty cool.
jordan holmes
How crazy is it that...
dan friesen
To think.
jordan holmes
Oh, man.
That's so much like the declassified information.
I don't know if it's declassified, but it's information that's now out.
Where there was a U.S. military...
Training exercise.
dan friesen
Jade Helm.
jordan holmes
That showed up on Russia's intelligence reports as being exactly like what would happen if America was launching a first strike.
So they sent the order, we're retaliating.
And it was because of one dude on the button, basically, who was like, let's hold back and wait, that we don't have a massive nuclear war.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And it was really that one guy.
Like, you go back, he got a medal and thrown into Siberia, never to be heard from again.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It's weird how close we can come sometimes.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
So it seems like that is that same kind of smoking gun right there where it is...
dan friesen
We're one pussy hair away from destruction all the time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway, let me wrap up this article and then we can...
jordan holmes
I love nuclear weapons.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It's so great that they're in the world.
dan friesen
Boy, we shouldn't have created those.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
All about shoulda.
dan friesen
This actually is pretty interesting.
It ends pretty interestingly.
Anyone who spends any time in Moscow will quickly discover that ordinary Russians, in contrast with a majority of Europeans, feel surprisingly positive about Trump.
One reason is that they're exhausted at Russia's confrontation with the West.
Another is that they share Trump's cynical, borderline, apocalyptic view of international politics.
Like Trump, they never believed in win-win politics in the first place.
Most interestingly of all...
They readily compare Trump to an early Boris Yeltsin, impulsive, charismatic, trusting only of his family, and ready to bomb the parliament if that works to cement his hold on power.
The problem for the Kremlin is that Yeltsin was a revolutionary leader, and Putin has decided to make 2017 a year for deploring, not celebrating revolutions.
Which goes back to the beginning of the article when he's talking about...
jordan holmes
The Bolshevik revolutions, yeah.
dan friesen
Which is just good writing to tie the end back to the beginning of...
jordan holmes
It is good writing.
dan friesen
When you're talking foreign policy stuff and you're in the weeds a little bit like that article is, the ability to bring the end back to the beginning...
First of all, I tip my hat.
That's good writing.
And then second...
I mean, like, when he says that, like, it's deploring, obviously that's a little bit of a tip of the cap to the deplorable type stuff.
But that's just a stylish flair.
jordan holmes
That's a very well-written piece.
Avoids my most hated thing that happens in news right now, especially opinion bullshit, is when somebody talks about populism.
At no point in time does that article ever go with, and Trump's own particular brand of populism or whatever it is like that, because that's the laziest, dumbest thing you can say.
It's a shortcut for you're an idiot.
And that article is just well-researched.
Point by point, it has really good analysis.
dan friesen
And it has nothing to do with the things that Alex says it does.
jordan holmes
It's great writing.
That's really good.
Who's the writer of that?
Let's cite him.
dan friesen
This was...
You can find it in Foreign Policy Magazine.
jordan holmes
Don't search foreign affairs no matter what Alex Jones tells you.
dan friesen
It came out two days ago.
It was written by Ivan Krastev and Stephen Holmes.
Any relation?
jordan holmes
No.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
But yeah, good job, guys.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
From the bottom of our tiny, tiny podcast heart.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Good work.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, I mean, you know, this is just yet another example of, you know, him taking a source.
He created an entire special report to try and distract from the fact that Flynn...
Was way out of line.
jordan holmes
Yeah, this is Y2K all over again.
dan friesen
He took a news story that didn't say what he said it said, and then used it as a deflection from his main man, Michael Flynn, having to resign.
So he didn't have to talk about that, except to lie about the transcripts and what Michael Flynn actually did.
jordan holmes
He was too genuine.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he creates this sensationalized thing.
jordan holmes
He stepped down not...
Because he was maybe doing anything wrong, but because he's a martyr for the cause.
dan friesen
So he manages to talk about this without talking about it for 35-40 minutes in the special report.
Manages to string a whole fucking show along about it without actually getting into it.
Meanwhile, telling us that science fiction is a little funny plot from Satan.
jordan holmes
From Satan!
dan friesen
Fantasizing about Draculas and lasciviously talking about...
Pornographers and child murderers and how if you're not on his side, you're for them.
It's all insanity.
jordan holmes
He threw as much...
Like, imagine there's a bullseye on one side of your wall, like a dartboard, with Michael Flynn's face on it, right?
Now, turn 180 degrees and throw all of the spaghetti you've ever seen in your entire life at the wall and just hope people don't look at that.
Fucking dartboard.
dan friesen
The evidence that he's not crazy is that...
I mean, I don't know how you'd pull that level of not dealing with it off if you were crazy.
jordan holmes
Denial.
dan friesen
Yeah, you have to be like...
You have to be intentionally dodging shit or else...
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's right.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
Anyway, Jordan, this has been a fun trip through Tuesday's events.
jordan holmes
As always.
dan friesen
On the InfoWars website, because it wasn't just the Alex Jones show today.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Special report.
jordan holmes
Special report.
dan friesen
People can find us.
We have a Tumblr.
People can check out knowledgefight.tumblr.com.
jordan holmes
You can follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight.
We're on iTunes, Knowledge Fight.
Give us a rating.
Give us a review.
dan friesen
You can send us an email if you think we're dumb libtard cucks over at knowledgefight at gmail.com.
And if you are a satanic off-world entity and you want to tell me about a new machine.
jordan holmes
Dude, we want to hear that shit.
dan friesen
I know some science fiction writers.
jordan holmes
I need a book idea.
I need something.
dan friesen
All right, so if a satanic being wants to tell me about a machine, I will tell Jordan about it.
He'll write a book about it, and we'll get there.
jordan holmes
We'll get it done.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Anyway, Jordan, this has been fun.
jordan holmes
As always.
dan friesen
We'll catch you next time, but until then...
jordan holmes
We're Policy Wonks!
unidentified
Just a couple of fucking Policy Wonks.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
jordan holmes
I love your work.
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