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Jan. 10, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#2: December 31, 1999 (Y2K)

On this episode, Dan fills Jordan in on all the happenings on the December 31, 1999 edition of The Alex Jones Show. They touch on: Does Alex believe that the Y2K bug is going to strike? Are there concentration camps in Austin? How easily is it to convince Alex that a power plant has been blown up? Did we all survive Y2K?

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alex jones
10:02
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dan friesen
48:41
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jordan holmes
41:13
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alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
dan friesen
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
I'm a first-time caller.
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.
I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
I'm Jordan.
unidentified
Hey.
jordan holmes
That's me.
dan friesen
Seemed like a slicker way to do it.
Have us introduce each other or ourselves.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
jordan holmes
This is the best opening so far to our two episodes.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So here we are here.
I am a gentleman who is very interested.
In Infowars, and Alex Jones in particular, these accusations keep flying.
Jordan knows nothing about it, and we like to sit down, have a bottle of wine.
jordan holmes
Like the bougie assholes that we are.
dan friesen
Today we are brought to you by Prophecy Wine.
It's a Pinot Noir out of California.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
It has a nice weirdo with a bindle, like a jester with a bindle on the front of it.
Very attractive bottle.
jordan holmes
And he is surrounded by woodland dogs, just pure, or baby deer, whichever it is.
dan friesen
And a weird crescent moon inside a hill that's probably an Illuminati symbol.
That's what Alex would tell us.
So the premise of this show here is that I have gathered clips that Jordan has not heard, and we'll just discuss.
The ramifications of them.
jordan holmes
We'll figure this shit out.
dan friesen
See if there's insanity to be discussed.
jordan holmes
See if there's insanity.
It's Alex Jones, I think.
I think so far there's going to be at least a little bit of insanity going on.
dan friesen
So, at the end of last week...
First of all, I could not...
jordan holmes
Last time on Knowledge Fight.
dan friesen
I could not wait to do this again, by the way.
jordan holmes
I know.
dan friesen
I was hounding you to possibly do this on a daily basis, which we agree is excessive.
jordan holmes
Yeah, last episode was some of the most fun I've ever had podcasting, but I was so emotionally drained just walking home just like, how does a man live like that?
dan friesen
It's insane to figure out, like to imagine the amount of...
Mental stress it must take to live inside that world.
jordan holmes
The moment I left, I started reading about cognitive dissonance.
Because that's the only way that we can look through this.
And the term was coined not the way we think of it, where it's like you can hold two competing ideas in your head at the same time.
But whenever you get two competing ideas...
The one that you prefer that fits your natural narrative is the one that you wind up holding.
Of course.
So psychologically, reading about it today, you can't compete with insanity by using facts.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no, no.
jordan holmes
Because when you use facts, people just double down on their insanity.
dan friesen
Or they use their insanity to co-opt your facts into their line of thinking.
I mean, we're witnessing this play out on the national scale.
International scale right now.
jordan holmes
Well, if you listen to the first episode, we know the Pakistani government is now listening to us as well.
dan friesen
Yes, undoubtedly.
Also, here's something...
Okay, well, let me just set this up.
Last week, at the end of the week, Alex Jones...
Mr. Jones, if you're nasty.
He referenced on the last episode that we did that he was going to take some meetings, but maybe he didn't want to take these meetings because he doesn't need to warn someone in person.
He's talking about Trump.
jordan holmes
Well, if you are in the mainstream media, you can figure it out.
dan friesen
Read between the lines, mainstream media.
So he has taken those meetings, and he is out of the studio.
So, for the last, like, four days...
jordan holmes
He left the bunker?
dan friesen
He did.
jordan holmes
Despite the warning that he is going to be assassinated.
dan friesen
Well, his warning from a caller, which we learned throughout the course of some of the clips we'll play today, maybe some of his sources are weirdo callers.
But, we'll get to that in a minute.
The last few days has been, like, guest hosts filling in.
And I don't really care to talk about them.
I mentioned this on the last episode.
But, like, no disrespect to Paul Joseph Watson.
No disrespect...
jordan holmes
PJW.
dan friesen
PJW hates SJWs.
No disrespect to him or Oren Schroyer.
A little disrespect to Oren Schroyer.
That guy's an asshole.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But I don't want to talk about them because without them, there isn't...
Without them, it doesn't matter.
Alex Jones can do this on his own.
Without Alex Jones, there is no Infowars.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that does seem to be...
Like, he's built a cult of personality.
Yes.
The same way that there are cults.
dan friesen
Yeah.
These other people are little minions, and they are...
Basically, they echo a lot of his narrative.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
So it's not really all that interesting to me to break down what Paul Joseph Watson has to say when he hosts.
It's mostly just...
There's a white genocide going on, and also people...
jordan holmes
Yeah, we don't need to talk about that.
dan friesen
We'll get to that, but when Alex says it.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Because he does.
jordan holmes
I would never have guessed that.
dan friesen
We'll break down how that is a myth and a racist idea in and of itself at a future show.
But I wanted to do this, but we didn't have a show with Alex on it.
So I decided, let's go ahead and do that Y2K episode.
So that's why we're here.
We're going to discuss what happened when Alex Jones took to the airwaves on December 31st, 1999.
jordan holmes
Unfortunately, he had already told me we were doing the Y2K episode before this, so you are missing out on him saying we're doing a Y2K episode and me absolutely losing my shit.
dan friesen
17 years later, here we are.
What has happened?
jordan holmes
We have not yet been Y2K'd.
dan friesen
No.
So, the main thrust...
If you will allow me to use that term of the episode, is this story that Alex picked up, that a power plant in Pennsylvania had been taken offline.
So I'll let him explain the story in this clip.
alex jones
All right, let's go ahead and get to this article.
Associated Press, this came out at 722 a.m. Eastern Standard Time.
Today, December 31st, 1999, Pennsylvania, nuclear plant shut down.
One of the two nuclear reactors at Pico Energy Co.'s Limerick Generating Station has shut down this morning after a piece of equipment failed.
Company spokesman, Neil McDermott, said the problem was not Y2K-related.
It was declared an unusual event, the least serious emergency classification of nuclear power plant.
They've got to have a serious emergency to shut down a plant.
You power one down.
dan friesen
Let me...
jordan holmes
The least serious emergency.
They gotta have a serious emergency.
dan friesen
The reason you laugh, and I think it's appropriate to stop this clip for a second and spell it out, is that that is wild conjecture and total bullshit.
They're like, okay, well, the story is that it's nothing serious.
And in the last 17 years, we've pretty much evidence has borne out that it's nothing serious.
jordan holmes
Hindsight is 20...
Not Y2K.
dan friesen
Right.
But the story is, hey, it's nothing serious.
His story is, come on guys, it's fucking serious.
jordan holmes
It's clearly serious.
I also like the audio quality of this clip now because it does have the feel of Dan Rather reporting from Warzone.
dan friesen
Or like we found it in a dusty box.
unidentified
These are the unreleased clips from Alex Jones.
dan friesen
I'm not as able to take everything fully in context, so there's a number of shorter clips in this episode, but that's just because this entire episode, it's not online anymore.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
There was just a large compilation of clips of it on...
Trust me, the context is fine.
jordan holmes
The context is Y2K.
Like, that's all you need to know about the context of these, right?
dan friesen
Yeah, I'm apologizing in advance for something that's not necessarily to apologize for.
I just feel like a fair day in court is required, and here it is.
jordan holmes
As is our stated objective.
dan friesen
So, here he has more to say about this reactor.
alex jones
Powered up for at least days.
It was declared an unusual event.
At 2.55 a.m., shutdown occurred when an insulator on the main generator transformer from Limerick 2 failed.
We had reports yesterday of this.
Off the record, I would not report it, but I had it from a good source.
A good source who is off the record.
dan friesen
And he does that.
I might just go ahead and report it.
Nah, no, I'm not going to report it.
I have more information.
Nah, I don't really have more information.
jordan holmes
I can't share it with you, so you need to make it up on your own.
dan friesen
Right.
And now this is something that I think is also really important and fun to bring up, is that this is all he does.
He says, like, I've got this information, someone high up told me, I have this credible information, never says what, first of all, the information is, never says who the people are.
In the same breath, now we have this intelligence report that came out about the hacking.
The Russian hacking in current day, 2017.
jordan holmes
Yep.
Anonymous officials have said there is some connection.
And then you read the article and it's like, just some guy said maybe and there's no new information about it.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, be that as it may, his stance on the unnamed officials...
Name the officials!
You're a coward if you can't name the officials!
That's all you do!
jordan holmes
But if I don't name the officials, that's because I'm protecting you from the truth.
When they don't name them, it's because they're deceiving you and keeping the truth away from you.
dan friesen
He's not done.
jordan holmes
That makes perfect sense.
alex jones
Boy, do we get good information here.
This has been going on for days.
From our information, it is not this transformer that they're talking about.
They wouldn't just shut a plant down over that.
Something serious may be going on there.
dan friesen
So it turns out it was just that.
jordan holmes
That is the end of every sentence that he said.
Turns out it was.
dan friesen
It was like a broken insulator and it required them to shut the plant down.
And this does happen from time to time.
It's a little bit extreme in the sense that turning off a nuclear reactor, nuclear power plant, is not simple.
You have to cool down the cores and stuff like that.
It's a huge process, but it does happen sometimes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, it's an immensely complicated way of powering anything.
It's cleaner, isn't it?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I'm going to assume it's cleaner because people are afraid of it.
dan friesen
I'm not responsible for knowing that.
I'm not an energy specialist.
jordan holmes
That's true.
You are a Transformer specialist, though, which you've already established.
And I knew that earlier from anonymous sources.
dan friesen
Actually, I'm more of a GoBots specialist.
That's really where I'm more at.
So he has this narrative that runs throughout the entire episode where he just constantly brings up this Pennsylvania power plant.
jordan holmes
Limerick, right?
dan friesen
Yeah.
And it just goes on and on.
But what we can take away from that clip is that he knew about it yesterday.
jordan holmes
And it's been going on for a few days.
dan friesen
Right.
And there's four or five other ones around the country that are about to...
That are, boy, who knows what's going to happen.
jordan holmes
Because since it's a serious emergency...
And not just a Transformer.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
It could happen to anyone at any time.
dan friesen
Well, I mean, the underlying message...
jordan holmes
This is deadly serious.
dan friesen
The underlying message is he's actually trying to get out, or the point he's trying to make is that these aren't real serious problems.
They're planned problems.
It's not that Y2K is happening.
It's that the globalists want you to think Y2K is happening while they have their...
Surrogate terrorists go out and cause little problems.
jordan holmes
That is the narrative that I was not expecting.
dan friesen
That's the narrative.
jordan holmes
I thought he was going to actually be afraid of Y2K.
I wish.
Instead, this is a full-on...
dan friesen
False flag.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
That's where we're at.
jordan holmes
This is a cover story for the globalists.
Now, this is 17 years ago, and the globalists...
He's already established globalists being the issue.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
From the jump.
jordan holmes
From the jump, globalists.
dan friesen
From whenever he got radicalized in junior college to now, globalists are the problem.
Because I've read, I haven't finished it yet, but I've read, I don't need to finish it.
I've read most of the book that he read in college that he cites as his awakening, his red pilling, as they call it now.
jordan holmes
Oh boy.
dan friesen
The book, None Dare Call It a Conspiracy.
And basically all it is is about these globalist forces.
That are trying to trick people into accepting socialism, because socialism is a lie that leads to communism.
And communism isn't really people sharing things.
It's utter control of the state over everything.
So that's the sort of principle behind it, and that's guided him throughout his entire broadcast career.
jordan holmes
Okay, so if I understand this correctly...
dan friesen
Let me just say this.
jordan holmes
Go for it.
dan friesen
And then I will take your question.
jordan holmes
We'll be taking questions at the end of the podcast as well.
dan friesen
He's consistent in his underlying philosophy, but he's inconsistent in what that means and how it plays out in the world.
jordan holmes
Now, if I understand this...
So here's the question that I have here.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
If he started doing the whole globalist thing 25 years ago, does he think...
He's winning or they're winning?
dan friesen
He now thinks he's winning with Trump because he believes that Trump is the champion who's going to take them all down.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And as we were discussing with cognitive dissonance, he can wrap his head around people like Rex Tillerson, you know, Exxon CEOs being put on the cabinet because he's like, now, you know, these Goldman Sachs bankers.
You know, they were working at Goldman Sachs, but if you look at their history, they've been fighting the globalists the whole way.
jordan holmes
I have no idea how that's possible.
dan friesen
I don't either.
Because you wouldn't want to leave a record of that in case the globalists win.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
Then you're a mole.
jordan holmes
Well, you would want to at least play both sides there so you can survive if the globalists go down.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But then you've still got the...
dan friesen
We're getting too deep into the story in modern day.
But the version is essentially...
jordan holmes
We need to deal with this on its own terms.
dan friesen
We know from sources that they're behind the scenes doing the good fight.
jordan holmes
So let's all go back to where we were when Y2K happened.
dan friesen
Well, you know where we were?
jordan holmes
Where were you?
dan friesen
We were really afraid.
alex jones
I'm not even going to say it's six to seven reactors across the country.
I'm not even going to...
It's bad, and I got this news about the Pennsylvania plant.
Early yesterday, got it again off air, confirmed it with someone that is 99% accurate, about like I am.
dan friesen
You catch that?
jordan holmes
He confirmed it off air with somebody.
dan friesen
Who's 99% accurate, like I am.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's...
Wow.
dan friesen
That's smooth broadcasting, baby.
jordan holmes
It is very great that he only deals with 99%.
You only hang out with people in your own social class of being correct all the time.
I mean, yeah, he's not correct all the time.
He wants to leave that open just in case Y2K doesn't happen.
alex jones
I'm trying to report the truth, and now I've got the Associated Press saying, well, they shut the whole plant down, but they call it an unusual event, the least serious emergency classification of nuclear power plant.
Well, it's got to be pretty bad for them to power a plant down.
dan friesen
So that sounds like...
Good logic.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it has to be pretty bad for them to power the plant down.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
It has to be more bad than anything that happens where they don't have to power the plant down.
dan friesen
It's appealing on one level, but it's also not borne out by the facts.
jordan holmes
You're getting bogged down with...
I think it's hard for us because we're trying to compete...
Non-facts with facts.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
And we're not going to win there.
So we have to kind of engage with this on its own level.
dan friesen
I would love for you to do that.
jordan holmes
I'm trying so hard.
I've been obsessed with facts my whole life.
dan friesen
Well, you've got to leave that at the door.
jordan holmes
This is what's so great about this, is now I'm delving into this world of just pure, concentrated, 99.9% sure bullshit.
Mm-hmm.
If it is a serious problem, what is going to happen next?
dan friesen
Well, those reactors are going to go off.
jordan holmes
Okay, so the reactors...
Is that how reactors work?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
We had Chernobyl.
That didn't explode.
dan friesen
I think it's probably the...
jordan holmes
We had Chernobyl.
dan friesen
We all did.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
As a human community, because we're libertards and we care about people in foreign countries.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
But I think that maybe the grid...
jordan holmes
Have you heard that they're using progtards now, too?
unidentified
Oh, no.
jordan holmes
Oh, so good.
Oh, yeah.
That's progressive tards for people who are not in the Twitter know.
dan friesen
So I think that the next stage of the narrative of that would be that the grid goes down or something like that.
Power goes out around the city.
jordan holmes
So nuclear power plants control the entire grid, is what he thinks.
And there's no backup, and once the nuclear power plant goes down, it's utter chaos, which the globalists are trying to put together.
dan friesen
It's funny you should say that, because we've got some more reports here that maybe you should hear, and they're coming to you from one of Alex Jones' reputable sources, a slack-jawed caller.
alex jones
Tellers and gentlemen, I'm a little bit excited here today and trying to maintain my calm.
unidentified
Yeah, they're turning the heat up on this thing now, and it's at War 10, Alex.
The reason I called in today, I got another confirmation real early this morning.
In fact, before the sun even came up, a gentleman called me out of Michigan about the power plant situation, what we were talking about yesterday out in western Kentucky.
jordan holmes
A gentleman from Michigan called him about the power plant situation in Pennsylvania.
dan friesen
No, in Michigan.
jordan holmes
Oh, it was in Michigan.
dan friesen
We'll get back to that.
I wanted to stop here for a second to decompress for a second.
Like, he just said what we were talking about yesterday.
Now, it's possible he was talking about the guy in Michigan, or he talked to Alex yesterday.
jordan holmes
Yeah, what Alex Jones was saying earlier.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
dan friesen
He might have talked to Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
I like how proud this dude was that he got it before the sun even came up.
dan friesen
About two in the morning now.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
So, he is getting information before even Alex Jones.
Like, he's big time in Alex Jones right there, right?
dan friesen
Hillbilly.
Fucking take a nap.
It's two in the morning.
jordan holmes
Even if he is 100% correct, that accent makes everything sound...
dan friesen
Wrong?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Well, also, I have to stress this.
The pronoun reference is so vague, and I think it's important, because I believe that he spoke to Alex the day before.
jordan holmes
He actually spoke to Alex off-air?
dan friesen
Well, here, let me play it back a little bit, because he says what we were talking about yesterday.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
dan friesen
That was the we, the guy in Michigan, or is it him and Alex?
jordan holmes
I think, I don't think he...
dan friesen
Let's hear it in context, and then hear the rest of the clip.
unidentified
...out of Michigan, about the power plant situation, what we were talking about yesterday, out in western Kentucky.
Well, he called me about a power plant up in Michigan.
Exactly.
And this one here, one of the ones in Michigan, just one that's in question here that I'm talking about.
We have confirmation.
When given the order, they will shut this one down.
dan friesen
And that newspaper article that you were talking about, about that nuclear plant in Pennsylvania, just goes on to say the exact same things.
So the we is vague.
jordan holmes
I think the we is him.
dan friesen
And Michigan guy?
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
I think it's him actually believing that he is part of Alex Jones' broadcast.
dan friesen
The community.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Like the way that the church would say, you know, the we.
dan friesen
I can accept that as a possibility also.
But then he goes on to say that there's a power plant in Michigan that...
jordan holmes
When given the order...
dan friesen
They will shut it down.
jordan holmes
Which is...
dan friesen
Which means what?
jordan holmes
It means that the globalists will be signaling them.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
That's what it has to mean in his mind.
Even though that is literally what would happen is your superior would say, hey, shut this down.
And then you wouldn't resist.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
You work at the power plant.
dan friesen
They go on to talk about the Pennsylvania thing, and this is something that comes up over and over again on this episode.
And one of the reasons why I think it's the most interesting document is that because...
People keep calling in and saying wild shit, and Alex never challenges them.
There has never been, perhaps, a day that we knew in advance was going to be fucked up more than Y2K.
I was 15 at the time, and even I had a keen awareness to be like, I'm going to be careful about things I believe on this day.
Everyone is kind of full of shit.
jordan holmes
I remember this distinctly.
I was 13. My dad started putting water in the freezer.
Like, in case.
And I remember thinking, or at least I tell myself I remember thinking...
That's not going to help.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Bottles of ice.
Yeah, even if something does go bad.
dan friesen
How big is your freezer?
jordan holmes
Yeah, not big.
Not big at all.
That's maybe two days' worth of water.
We're going to have to forage sooner or later.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What he should be doing is reading books about foraging.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
That would be the smarter way to go.
dan friesen
Well, I think, I mean, as it goes in these disaster scenarios, most of the time, you only really have to wait out about a week or two before, like, most people are dead.
jordan holmes
This is zombie apocalypse now is what we're saying.
dan friesen
Well, no, I'm just discussing fear porn that these weirdos who come on Alex's show talk about all the time.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
They were like, you know, basically you just need the survival food and that'll get you through like, you know, two weeks and that's when all the lawless people will have killed each other off.
And, you know, if you have the food, it's the difference between being able to, you know, sit around at home with the family or have to go out and fight.
jordan holmes
So that's one thing about the zombie apocalypse narrative that these guys totally share, which is some dudes absolutely jerk off to the fantasy that they would be the lone survivor in the apocalypse.
dan friesen
100%.
jordan holmes
So that's what this dude is, what all of these dudes are basically saying is like, if shit does go down, it's a good thing that we have you, Alex Jones, and the rest of us.
dan friesen
Who can sell us food.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Which brings us to our first commercial break.
Brings us to our first commercial break of the Y2K show.
unidentified
Time is getting shorter until Y2K.
If you want to be sure your family and loved ones weather the potential Y2K storm of delays, shortages, or interruptions of services, then now is the time to stock up on emergency supplies and a home food reserve.
dan friesen
Yep.
What?
So, you start to get the picture.
You start to get the picture of what's going on here.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's spreading fear, and all this idea of, like, oh my god, a disaster is happening, power grid is going down, for the last years, and right up to it, he's been hawking survival food, and shit like that.
It's in his best interest to get people scared.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
But who, is he selling the food?
Is that a company that's selling the food?
dan friesen
Yeah, it's his parent company.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
That makes way more sense.
dan friesen
Which he has a stake in.
jordan holmes
Because I thought that might be a legitimate TV commercial at the time.
dan friesen
We'll get to another ad later, which is even more damning.
jordan holmes
Meaning it's going to keep water from overflowing after the apocalypse.
dan friesen
Yeah, you know your words.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
That's our only power plant option whenever the nuclears go down.
dan friesen
Well, speaking of power plants, later in the night we get another update on something else around the world from another caller.
unidentified
It was also reported a local person caught it on CNN.
alex jones
A power plant has been blown up.
unidentified
In Oregon.
alex jones
Okay, we need to get CNN on.
I'm sure it's studios at GCN.
They're checking that out.
Boy, Clinton's pulled it.
Oh, man, this has happened.
unidentified
But that's the report that I got, and two other people on local repeaters verified it.
They're going to say that one of Bin Laden's tariffs slipped through.
alex jones
I've been stating for years, Bin Laden is a known CIA asset.
That's public record.
But I firmly side on the fact that we need to go ahead and support the truth.
But to create the panic, it does.
Should have warned people earlier.
jordan holmes
We got in to support the troops.
dan friesen
Yeah.
No, we didn't.
jordan holmes
I thought he said support the troops.
Didn't he just say that?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
What did he say?
dan friesen
He said, we've got to tell the truth.
unidentified
Oh!
dan friesen
We've got to report the truth.
And then he says something that is him tipping his hand a little too far.
And that is, if it causes a panic, so be it.
Should have warned him earlier.
When he is the only person...
Who's out there in the grand scheme of things saying all this crazy bullshit and letting these whack job callers dictate what he believes.
Because that Oregon explosion didn't happen.
jordan holmes
No, of course not.
dan friesen
It wasn't reported in any real media.
It's some caller telling him that someone told him that it had happened and he doesn't challenge it.
jordan holmes
Why would he challenge it?
Great question.
Are his callers screened?
They have to be, right?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Or is it only his listeners call?
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Because I've never seen him actually...
Well, I mean, clearly I have zero experience with him.
But has he ever challenged a caller?
dan friesen
Yeah, when they talk about, like, globalism.
Or whenever they insinuate things that disagree with him, yeah, he challenges them.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what it...
unidentified
But it happens rarely.
jordan holmes
So if he lets a caller talk...
dan friesen
It happens very rarely.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then he just screams at them and they hang up on him.
jordan holmes
Well, see, because I remember listening to Hannity's radio show with my grandfather.
dan friesen
Oh, man.
jordan holmes
I did, too.
Which I remember as just the greatest time of my life.
unidentified
Sure.
dan friesen
The salad days.
jordan holmes
See, Hannity's kind of thing was he would often bring those people on because then he could really go off on them.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And that's what was really exciting.
dan friesen
But in Hannity's case, I actually know this.
I don't have documents or anything like this.
jordan holmes
But an unconfirmed source did tell you about that.
dan friesen
A lot of those callers are fake.
jordan holmes
Oh, really?
dan friesen
We have a number of friends who work doing fake calls to radio shows.
unidentified
Wow.
dan friesen
And if you listen to drive-time radio and morning radio, almost all of those calls are fake.
People who call in and the morning DJs are doing bits with them and stuff like that, those are improvisers.
For the most part.
jordan holmes
No shit.
I didn't know that.
You just destroyed my whole world.
dan friesen
Yeah, they're getting paid like $35, $40 a call or something like that.
We have a number of friends.
I'll tell you off-air who they are.
I don't want to put their business in the street because it's really, really dirty.
But that's what a lot of radio stations do because most people don't call in.
The people who do are usually crazy.
jordan holmes
I always used to wonder about that because I had this...
Image of somebody driving, you know, drive time radio.
Somebody's driving and they're just like, I need to call this radio show.
So they're driving and then pulling all this shit out of their ass.
So that always kind of made me believe that...
dan friesen
The thing with Hannity is like, yeah, he gets these callers and he gets to tee off on them and it's never someone who actually knows their shit.
unidentified
Well...
dan friesen
Coincidentally.
jordan holmes
But that's...
See, that still kind of makes sense to me if you screen your callers.
dan friesen
Oh, sure, sure.
jordan holmes
The old Leno man on the street interview is like, they're not bringing you people who know exactly what he's questioning about.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
They're giving you the people who are like that fit that narrative of, isn't everybody silly?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Which actually is...
Which brings me to an interesting point about some of the Alex Jones show that we missed this week.
That I just want to tee off on real quick.
So a lot of the episodes end up starting with like a man on the street segment.
I wish they started with someone on the street.
There was one that was like Mark Dice.
He's this asshole YouTuber.
jordan holmes
Great fucking name though.
dan friesen
And he was going around.
jordan holmes
Mark Dice Clay.
dan friesen
He was like, you be the guy on the street, I'll be him.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
And he was like, hey, so if your girlfriend's pregnant and someone comes up and just punches her in the stomach a couple times real good.
And she aborts.
Is that murder?
jordan holmes
That's a complicated question.
dan friesen
No one's given any of that nuance.
Or at least they edit that out.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Yes!
dan friesen
Okay, so why, if she chooses to kick it out of her belly, is it not murder?
jordan holmes
Because nobody else was involved.
dan friesen
Well, there's that.
The argument would be that she is different than the baby, so she's still acting upon the baby as if she were punching herself in the stomach.
jordan holmes
Okay.
That is an interesting argument.
dan friesen
It's not that interesting.
jordan holmes
I actually do kind of feel like that is a different angle.
Well, go ahead and give me why it's not an interesting argument.
dan friesen
Well, because I don't think it's murder, necessarily.
I think it's a brutal assault.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
For sure.
But it's a brutal assault from the guy onto her.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it made her unable to carry the baby.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
And it's not that he's attacking the baby at all.
He's attacking her.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but if he's punching her in the stomach multiple times, which, where is this guy coming from?
dan friesen
Crazy town.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
This guy calls into Alex Jones.
dan friesen
No doubt.
jordan holmes
So he's punching the baby.
Now, I do think you're right in saying that it's not murder.
Can you murder something that doesn't have sentience yet?
Or even the idea of consciousness?
dan friesen
Now that's where it gets complicated.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And it's outside the scope of a man on the street bit.
jordan holmes
That would be great if a man on the street interview happens and then they both sit in these comfy chairs and have this little debate with coffee on them just doing that whole thing.
dan friesen
Or some nice prophecy wine.
jordan holmes
Prophecy wine.
dan friesen
It's not bad, by the way.
jordan holmes
It isn't.
dan friesen
Shout out.
Um, okay, so, you know, we got all these reactors, all these power plants, we're having trouble with them.
You know, all around the country.
jordan holmes
One of them exploded.
dan friesen
One of them blew up in Oregon.
jordan holmes
Ah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
But it's all this stuff that is not being challenged, and it's so incredibly frustrating.
Because as, oh, you asked why would he, and I got flustered.
Because it angers me, even the question.
Because if you are a journalist.
If you are someone who people listen to, you have a responsibility not to throw bullshit around, especially on a day like Y2K when everyone is on edge.
Like, people were on edge.
They shouldn't have been, but they were.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
People were buying into it.
People were hoarding stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Like, it was happening.
And so if you're a broadcaster, you do have a certain responsibility to be like, well, you know, Even if you say very unconfirmed reports of a power plant blowing up in Oregon, we're looking into it.
It's probably not true.
We'll get back to you when we have confirmation.
I feel like that's as far as you can go.
jordan holmes
I do like the guy who called in saying...
Yeah, I heard it from a guy who saw it on CNN.
Like, there's only one guy who was watching CNN whenever they released that.
dan friesen
It's going to get worse with CNN later.
But, like, I wish someone would call in and was like, I heard it from a friend who heard it from another.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we were playing a game of telephone that started with, hey, somebody set off some fireworks.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So, where we go from here?
This...
Night was not just...
jordan holmes
Actually, no.
Let's leave that until we get really crazy.
dan friesen
Okay, well, the night was not just about power plants, though the night also had a lot of other various flavors of fear porn.
jordan holmes
So, would you say that the night is young and power plants are still beautiful?
dan friesen
Yes.
The power plants came up throughout the night.
It just kept coming up, but also throughout was a bunch of other weird weaving storylines.
And this introduces a couple of them that I think are important.
alex jones
20,000 to 40,000 civilians trapped in the city.
Russian hines are being shot down.
Tanks are being blown to bed.
dan friesen
Whoa!
jordan holmes
What?
dan friesen
I should explain.
That is in reference to the war in Chechnya.
jordan holmes
Oh!
Okay, well that makes perfect sense then.
dan friesen
But he was also saying that hundreds of thousands of people are dead.
There's another clip that says it.
It says all of the...
I don't remember which clip it is, but he's talking about how there's more wars going on now than ever.
Wait, here, I think I found it.
jordan holmes
On the day?
There's more wars going on on December 31st, 1999 than ever have.
dan friesen
No, than ever in the history of the world.
unidentified
I think this is the clip.
alex jones
Cash machines are failing in Britain and now other European countries.
They're finding large amounts of explosives in France.
Vladimir Putin, who is known as Vladimir the Ruthless, and using all his profanity on national television, TV, you name it.
We won't read the profanity here, but we've got it.
This person is on an unbelievable power trip and resembles a...
demon.
unidentified
He is a creature of the IMF and the World Bank and international communism.
dan friesen
So he resembles A demon.
jordan holmes
Yes.
Just like Hillary Clinton this year was a demon.
Literally a demon.
dan friesen
Vladimir the Ruthless was just a guy who had the same picture as the guy from Ghostbusters 2. The person who Alex Jones now is really getting behind and supporting and being like, Putin's a good guy.
He legitimately is on Russia's side.
He was on Russian television being lauded by Alexander Dugan, one of...
Putin's great advisors, very close associates.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones was on Russian television, like live, or they showed clips of Alex Jones?
dan friesen
No, no, he was on.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
dan friesen
He looked like he was gonna cry.
jordan holmes
Does Alex Jones speak Russian?
dan friesen
Nope.
There was a translator.
jordan holmes
Because that would be great if he had learned it in this past year, just like, I'm excited!
dan friesen
Uh, dasvidanya!
jordan holmes
Ah, hey!
dan friesen
He was on Russian television, and this guy, Dugan, was explaining to him that, like, because of you, our opinions about America have changed.
Like, it was just a rim job of a segment.
unidentified
All right.
dan friesen
Like, they can't fucking believe what...
They're saying.
It's insane.
They're giving him lip service because narcissism is how you compromise people.
It's a very old trick in spy games.
It's insane.
So they're just like, because of you, I say this, anti-Americanism is over.
And Alex Jones is just sitting there and he looks like he's going to cry, like he's finally got daddy's approval.
It's insane.
So he is...
Full-on, whole hog on the side of Russia.
jordan holmes
So they're teaching, so they're saying to Alex Jones, not just that anti-Americanism is over, but directly because of your intervention.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Because of you, and because of your help that you gave to Trump, you've shown us that all Americans aren't these weaselly dicks.
I'm paraphrasing that part a little bit, but you can find, Alex Jones put out that clip.
It's on the Infowars channel on YouTube.
You can find it, and it's insanity.
It's absolute insanity.
I would hope no one sees it.
unidentified
Because it's like, uh, uh, shit.
Shit.
dan friesen
Shit.
Russia thinks I'm awesome.
This is bad news.
jordan holmes
Russia thinks I'm awesome.
Is the next name of this podcast.
dan friesen
So, let's finish this clip up.
He was just talking about how Putin looks like a demon.
Oh, also that he's in cahoots with the IMF, the International Monetary Fund.
jordan holmes
That's an old fun one.
dan friesen
Yeah, but he's also putting him as one of the heads of the globalists.
So he is painting Putin as part of this global cabal that he is against in 1999.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which has now completely flipped.
alex jones
Former KGB head, and this information is vital, ladies and gentlemen.
We are seeing the New World Order really come out in full force.
More wars than have been in the last 50 years are going on right now.
The war in Chechnya is raging in Rosny with, well, reports of hundreds of thousands dying.
dan friesen
So yeah, that's what that was in reference.
jordan holmes
Did he say hundreds of thousands, or did he say hundreds to thousands?
dan friesen
Hundreds of thousands.
Hundreds of thousands.
Okay.
jordan holmes
Hundreds of thousands.
dan friesen
He makes those claims again, which is insanity.
That's so many people.
jordan holmes
It's a lot of people.
dan friesen
It's an impossible amount of people.
Yeah, so that's what that was in reference to.
jordan holmes
How many people do live in Chechnya?
dan friesen
Not hundreds of thousands.
Well, maybe hundreds of thousands.
I don't fucking know, but they're not all dead.
jordan holmes
We have reports that Chechnya is over.
dan friesen
Sorry.
jordan holmes
We have reports that everybody in Chechnya has killed each other.
dan friesen
It's flat ground.
It's scorched earth, people.
That's actually not far off of where this is going to end.
jordan holmes
Okay.
All right.
alex jones
In the city, Russian hines are being shot down.
Tanks are being blown to bits.
Massive Grodd, unguided rocket attacks are being launched on the city indiscriminately right now.
Air and artillery bombardments as well.
It's absolutely out of control.
It is pandemic, ladies and gentlemen.
I'll give you the news first on Y2K.
The newest developments, the Pennsylvania nuclear plant has been shut down.
One of the main systems transferring the power from it failed, but they say it's not a Y2K problem.
And the things I'm experiencing here on Austin, Texas.
The shelves are empty of water, and some gas stations are running out of fuel.
dan friesen
So he went to a commercial with that sort of terrifying, there's no water, gas is running out.
jordan holmes
I love that that 90s, like, Saved by the Bell music is playing behind him.
Well, it's like, everyone is dying, unguided rockets are being fired, which...
dan friesen
Indiscriminately!
jordan holmes
Where would they go?
dan friesen
Random places.
jordan holmes
If they're unguided, that, like...
Do they have any idea where they're going to go or are they just shooting their wad in all different directions?
dan friesen
Just shooting that wad.
Also, that all isn't true.
But then we come back from commercial.
alex jones
We're in central Texas and in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
The shortwave is basically down, ladies and gentlemen.
Went off right as I went on the air.
dan friesen
So that's the introduction of another narrative.
The narrative of the government is trying to take out radio signals.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
That runs throughout the night.
jordan holmes
Which Alex Jones is on.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Ah.
dan friesen
We'll get a little bit deeper into that here.
alex jones
The central government, known as the federal government, the occupational government in Washington, D.C., has set up a huge $50 million command bunker hooked into all the FEMA boxes that can take over all the shortwave broadcast.
dan friesen
What the fuck is that sentence?
jordan holmes
So, the central government...
Also known as the federal government, the occupation government.
dan friesen
Right, because we should operate under maritime law as sovereign citizens.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
jordan holmes
Right.
So they set up a $50 million bunker.
Did they do it that day?
dan friesen
Also, that's not much for a bunker.
jordan holmes
No, that's not a great bunker.
dan friesen
It's kind of a cheap bunker.
jordan holmes
I feel like if you're an occupation government, you get a better bunker right away.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
No, they probably had that set up like months in advance, maybe, because they knew that they were going to do this PSYOP on Y2K.
jordan holmes
And Chechnya.
dan friesen
Oh, well, of course.
Well, that's just Vladimir the Ruthless.
The Ruthless, right.
So, yeah, hold on, here we go.
alex jones
Commercial AM and FM stations as well as television broadcast stations, and we hope they do not...
Activate that.
dan friesen
Yeah, so he's afraid that they're going to take out all AM and FM stations, television as well.
He goes a little bit further into this.
jordan holmes
Why would they take out all the AM and FM stations?
dan friesen
Because they don't want Alex jumping on any of those stations, just in case.
I mean, it's not that.
He doesn't say that, but that's my assumption.
jordan holmes
No, that's the implication there.
dan friesen
They don't want people to be able to communicate, especially patriots.
jordan holmes
But are people communicating on AM, FM radio, or just radio hosts?
dan friesen
Well, the shortwave, too, I assume would involve, like, CB radios, too.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm guessing.
jordan holmes
I mean, I don't know enough about radio waves.
dan friesen
He never spells that out, but I'm guessing that's one of the implications.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Now, did the shortwave radios go down?
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So he is once again just riffing off whatever it is that he feels like.
dan friesen
As I referred to it on the last episode, and I think I'm going to keep on.
Keeping on with this.
The Boogie Woogie Bandit got in there.
And he just started scatting.
It's just paranoia scat just coming out.
But in this case...
jordan holmes
Ella Fitzgerald, Alex Jones.
dan friesen
In this case, it's clear that it's not random.
It is very intentional.
These are the fears that people have.
And so he's amplifying them, playing into them.
Like the Russia idea.
Now, I will give him that on January 1st of 2000, Boris Yeltsin did step down.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
And that broke on New Year's Eve.
So, the idea of being scared about this Putin guy...
jordan holmes
Who we, you know...
dan friesen
He's ruthless.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
That's reasonable.
jordan holmes
Although, if your name is Vladimir, you do have to have a the after that with whatever, like, Vladimir the Impaler.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Vladimir the Ruthless.
dan friesen
My editor...
jordan holmes
Vladimir the...
You know, not...
Quite so wonderful guy.
dan friesen
My campus editor in college, when I wrote for the student paper, her middle name was Vladimir.
jordan holmes
Her middle name was Vladimir?
dan friesen
Yeah.
I don't give a shit about Vladimir.
jordan holmes
So she was Vladimir the woman!
How do you not get this?
dan friesen
Vladimir the editor.
jordan holmes
Vladimir the, my copy was better than what you put on it.
dan friesen
I think I actually know another Russian girl whose middle name is Vladimir.
Anyway.
That's a pretty weird coincidence.
jordan holmes
That is kind of...
I've never met anybody with the name Vladimir that would tell me their name was Vladimir.
dan friesen
It's like Adolf at this point.
jordan holmes
So they would be Vladimir the Deceiver.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
See, you can't say the name Vladimir without putting a the blank after it.
dan friesen
Speaking of deceiving...
alex jones
Doing a fabulous job.
He is consulting with people that he knows personally.
dan friesen
So he's talking about someone who's giving him information.
He's starting this clip off talking about someone who is feeding him information, but you will see that he plays his normal game of...
You'll see.
jordan holmes
Does he give a name to any source at any point in time during this?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Maybe this one.
We'll see.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
A lot of former military people that now own radio companies.
In fact, I'm not even going to say who the individual is.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
But also we learn...
jordan holmes
I feel like you knew that in advance.
dan friesen
We also learned, though, that a lot of former military people now own radio stations.
jordan holmes
When did that happen?
dan friesen
I don't know.
So here we go.
alex jones
I'm sure he can call it publicly.
I just don't want to give a lot of folks' names out on the air.
They have activated a powerful Cold War radar system in the North Pole region.
That is something that is drowning out shortwave.
The entire 9400 band all throughout the 9.400 up to 9.4001.
Military traffic is everywhere right now, ladies and gentlemen.
Scrambled.
We've got super power, radar systems, nuclear systems up, and perhaps our military.
It was Clinton that shut down that Cold War radar system.
It's now back up from people that actually worked in there.
We have it confirmed from the sound and where it's coming from, from experts.
dan friesen
What does that mean?
jordan holmes
Well, one, when did the Cold War...
unidentified
We know from the sound.
jordan holmes
It's 1999.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
So when did the Cold War end to him?
dan friesen
Never.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Well, no, no.
This year.
jordan holmes
In 1999?
dan friesen
No, no, no. 2017.
jordan holmes
Oh, 2017.
Whenever anti-Americanism ended.
dan friesen
2016.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
Okay.
So we have...
Okay.
Why would they put Cold War disruption technology in the North Pole?
On the North?
Does he think Santa Claus is real?
dan friesen
I think he thinks maybe they're...
I don't fucking know, man.
It's so insane.
jordan holmes
Okay, so let's just war games this.
Let's just go throughout this whole thing.
dan friesen
We've got to take it piece by piece.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Because there's so many pieces.
jordan holmes
And it's so easy to get bogged down with one, because he has this brilliant, like, just throw everything at you.
Because sooner or later, one of those things is going to hit one person.
dan friesen
Sure, one of these power plants is actually going to be out.
But to be fair, actually, the Pennsylvania one did have that.
Problem.
It was real.
It's just he mischaracterized it.
jordan holmes
But see, then he said that the nuclear power plants are up.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So which are we more afraid of?
dan friesen
I don't know.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So we got a powerful Cold War era disruptor.
Which, how could it be that powerful?
It was from the Cold War era.
Do you remember how they didn't even have fucking planes?
dan friesen
It's because the shortwave signals aren't that sophisticated.
So it's this old-time system that can shut down AM and FM and shortwave radio.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but only above 94.000.
dan friesen
Have you seen Lost?
jordan holmes
No, I haven't seen Lost.
That's another thing that I have not seen.
dan friesen
It's a great show.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I've heard that.
dan friesen
There's a whole thing in the first season where there's a signal disruptor.
On the island.
So they can't get radio off the island because this lady had put a signal jam on.
I think that's what Alex Jones thinks is happening from the North Pole.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
There's a signal jam going out across the entire world.
jordan holmes
So if it's on the North Pole, he believes that it can then reach the entire world.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So that's why you would put it on the North Pole.
Because it goes down.
Yeah.
That's how the space works.
That's how space works.
dan friesen
It's gravity.
jordan holmes
It just goes down.
dan friesen
Stop being an idiot.
unidentified
It's gravity.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
It goes down.
Yeah, you know what?
You're right.
In geospatial situations, we all know that the South Pole is down, the North Pole is up.
dan friesen
Always.
jordan holmes
That makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't fucking know, man.
I don't know what the logic is there other than...
Gotta say something.
jordan holmes
Yeah, like, try and give me some internal logic to that long...
Because that's just a long list of different things for you to be afraid of.
None of them are connected to each other in any way, other than he thinks they're all happening at the same time.
Orchestrated by the same people?
dan friesen
The globalists.
jordan holmes
Vladimir and Bill Clinton.
And Clinton disabled the Cold War other stuff?
dan friesen
Yeah.
But not this.
jordan holmes
Not this!
Well, he disabled the Cold War stuff that we built to protect against their Cold War stuff.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Here's what you have to understand.
jordan holmes
Did Clinton's Cold War stuff...
Was that put on the cell phone?
dan friesen
Also, Clinton's Cold War stuff is going to be the name of my first rap album.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's a pretty good rap album name.
dan friesen
I think the picture that we start to come up with and we have to deal with is that maybe scaring people is the point.
unidentified
Well, yeah.
dan friesen
Maybe it is...
Not fun version of War of the Worlds, basically, is what we're bogged down in.
jordan holmes
Was War of the Worlds that fun, though?
dan friesen
It was artistic.
jordan holmes
It was, that's true.
Orson Welles is a pretty good dude.
dan friesen
That was trolling.
This is not.
This is...
And we'll get to, again, why I'm 100% convinced it's not.
At our next commercial break.
jordan holmes
See, now I just can't get out.
Like, this is a whole Dr. Strangelove situation where it is like, okay, they put their Cold War stuff on the North Pole.
There's only one way to fight against it.
We're going to put our Cold War stuff on the bottom.
dan friesen
Yep, yep.
jordan holmes
Because that's going to go up.
dan friesen
Do you want to be afraid of some more stuff?
jordan holmes
Oh, God, yes.
dan friesen
All right.
alex jones
Pause it real quick.
jordan holmes
I would have given anything for him to stop with ladies.
unidentified
Ladies?
jordan holmes
And not as gentlemen, just ladies.
dan friesen
Dudes?
jordan holmes
We know that stuff is...
Guys, just sit this one out.
This is for the ladies.
dan friesen
Hit the skids, dudes.
jordan holmes
You're not going to need to hoard stuff because we're going to need you as breeders after it all goes down.
dan friesen
Like it's an Usher concert.
No dudes.
jordan holmes
No dudes.
dan friesen
Alright, here we go.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, police and military are on high alert, running around looking for supposed boogeymen and terrorists under every rock.
Military are highly visible now.
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, there are trains of military equipment moving into Austin.
Two nights ago, on Wednesday night, Fox News reported that the airport will be used as a massive holding facility for troublemakers or rioters here in Austin that have no history of riots.
They need to get that country locked down.
So they can stage the election for Vladimir Putin.
I mean, this guy is a demon.
Have you seen this guy?
How he's raging with power?
unidentified
Hmm.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Wait.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
So the military is highly visible.
dan friesen
Highly.
jordan holmes
Highly visible in Austin, Texas.
dan friesen
Occupied Austin, Texas.
jordan holmes
Occupied Austin, Texas.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
In case there are riots?
Even though there's no history of riots, Fox News reported that at the airport?
dan friesen
Yeah.
Yeah.
Their old airport.
jordan holmes
Oh, the old airport.
I was going to say, like, are they shutting down planes, too, and they're all just hanging out?
dan friesen
I don't have the clip of this, but there is a part where he's like, all the planes are in the sky.
jordan holmes
All the planes are in the sky.
dan friesen
Late in the broadcast, he starts talking about how, like, all the planes are in the sky.
Then he gets a call, and they're like, hey, you're talking about Russia, but let's be aware there's other countries we need to be afraid of, too.
jordan holmes
Great.
Let's compound this fear cyclone.
We're all going to jerk each other off with what we're afraid of.
dan friesen
Yeah, China exists, and Germany is pretty weird, too.
jordan holmes
Here is the crazy thing.
He's 100% correct about Vladimir Putin.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
This guy went from being a low-level KGB staffer to...
Running the entire country.
You can't argue with Vladimir the Ruthless.
dan friesen
I would posit that he's right big picture about Putin.
jordan holmes
Wrong small picture.
dan friesen
The idea that he's some sort of globalist shill and all that is not really backed up by anything.
But yeah, he's right.
We should be concerned about him and we should have been for the last 17 years.
More so than we have been.
jordan holmes
Only Alex Jones was.
dan friesen
That's not true exactly.
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
Of course it's not.
dan friesen
So, yeah.
jordan holmes
But, okay, let's go with...
There are tanks?
Where did tanks come from?
dan friesen
There's so many tanks.
jordan holmes
Where did tanks even...
How did tanks get there?
Are they keeping tanks there?
Do they have tanks in San Antonio that can get there that quickly?
dan friesen
I can't play the clip yet, but that will be explained.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
All right.
Thank God.
dan friesen
That's part of something.
jordan holmes
Because that's really the only mystery I'm interested in at this point.
dan friesen
No, that's in a later clip.
Add to the answer.
Is going to give you maybe a few more questions.
jordan holmes
I can't get over the fact that this is the Y2K episode.
dan friesen
So maybe you're wondering...
I don't know, Jordan.
Maybe you're wondering what's going on around the country.
jordan holmes
I am absolutely wondering where else tanks are.
dan friesen
Maybe there are things that are happening in other states that haven't been discussed yet.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Maybe we check in on the South.
jordan holmes
Is Fox News reporting or is CNN reporting?
dan friesen
Maybe a slack-jawed caller from Arkansas.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
unidentified
She called frantically yesterday saying, I don't want you to leave Harrison, Arkansas.
My girlfriend works there.
I don't want you to leave.
I don't want you to leave.
They've got marked the law signs we just found out down to the Arkansas Highway Transportation Department.
And we said, well, we thought at first she had probably seen your take because she's kind of like got her head in the sand.
And yesterday, up and down Highway 65, I was seeing Arkansas Highway Transportation Department vehicles.
They might have been doing road work.
jordan holmes
To where the Department of Transportation vehicles should be?
dan friesen
That might be...
jordan holmes
I've been seeing him all over the place.
Did he...
Where did he...
Old Coke.
All right.
dan friesen
I've been seeing these deli workers.
jordan holmes
At delis all over the place.
dan friesen
At Mariano's.
I think it's a conspiracy.
I think they're trying to cut some...
jordan holmes
I saw a teenager wearing a potbelly t-shirt.
She wasn't even in potbelly.
dan friesen
Was there a potbelly in the vicinity?
jordan holmes
It was about a...
It was a block away.
dan friesen
Irrelevant.
alex jones
All right.
dan friesen
So this clip isn't done.
unidentified
And this girl here just does not believe in that stuff now.
She's totally going nuts over it.
alex jones
So you've known this person for a long time, and she was a doubting promise, and now she claims she has personally seen the mark of law signs?
unidentified
She hasn't, but her friend that works for the Arkansas Highway Transportation Department called and heard of it.
They just delivered them.
And we go up and down the highway.
dan friesen
So what's gorgeous about this and what you're about to hear, and I just want to spell it out, this is third-hand information, and Alex does not question it, does not challenge it, spins it.
Now listen to this spin.
It's gorgeous.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
unidentified
And it just looks kind of spooky, you know?
alex jones
I hear you, sir.
Hey, right here in Austin, Texas, they've announced that it's a basic concentration camp at Robert Mueller Airport.
Anybody that lives in Central Texas, go take a look at it.
Former military officer and former police officer, retired gentleman that owns, well, let's just say a company.
He does services for the military.
I've known the guy for years.
dan friesen
So there again is another person who is not named, but look, hey, I don't want to say, you know, I can figure it out.
He's a retired gentleman.
jordan holmes
Former police officer, former military guy, retired, what?
Like, I don't know.
Power plant guy?
dan friesen
Owns some shit.
jordan holmes
And then he does some consulting work for the government.
dan friesen
Yeah, and also, I think where I paused the clip, we might end up swallowing it, but he says also, he's a good Christian man.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, he's known him for years, so he has to be a good Christian man.
dan friesen
So anyway, here's what he had to say.
But you see what I'm saying?
This guy calls in with some crazy bullshit.
And then instead of being like, well, I don't think that means anything.
I appreciate the call, but let's not worry about this for now.
He says, I hear you, brother.
Now also, there's concentration camps in Austin.
jordan holmes
He said there's concentration camps.
What a dick.
Anybody in Central Texas should go see them?
Why?
Why should they go see them?
It's a concentration camp.
It's easier to end up in it.
You just walk up like, hey guys, looks like you got a great concentration going on.
dan friesen
If it was real, and you were a real Alex Jones who wasn't full of shit, the message would be stay the fuck away from them.
unidentified
Yeah!
dan friesen
You're a citizen.
Don't go over there.
It's dangerous.
But instead, he's like, go look at it yourself.
jordan holmes
But that's a great way of signaling it exists.
You shouldn't actually go there, but you could know that it's there because you could walk up there.
But you're too smart.
You're one of my listeners.
And if you believe what I'm saying, you should go there and wind up in the concentration camp.
dan friesen
It's condescension dog whistling in some ways.
It's just like, you know, you're fine.
Don't confirm it, but you can't.
Don't confirm it.
You're fine.
jordan holmes
Basically, concentration camp?
dan friesen
Clip's not done.
jordan holmes
Okay.
alex jones
Standing, individual, happily married Christian man.
He told me two nights ago that he was out at Fort Hood during the day doing work, where I know he is routinely the largest army base in America.
dan friesen
Also, it really seems at this point we could figure out who he is.
Someone would know.
Yeah.
If this guy is actually telling Alex something he shouldn't know, he should be dead.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He has just identified him.
To someone.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
He's not being discreet at all.
But I think he's making up a person.
jordan holmes
See, well, yeah.
I mean, if you're going to go, like, in the Washington Post, whenever they did that terrible article, they still went just, like, anonymous.
Government officials or like intelligence officials, right?
dan friesen
You're talking about the power plant hacking from last week.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
They said anonymous intelligence officials.
They didn't say anonymous intelligence officials who I've known for many, many years, who we go golfing every now and then.
dan friesen
Who has a tendency to wear herringbone suits.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
dan friesen
Has a wonderful wife named Felicia.
jordan holmes
Good Christian man.
dan friesen
Two kids, one girl, one boy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he narrows it down so specifically.
dan friesen
Likes to drink lemon in his mouth.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Fuck off.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
You know, but that's what you do when you lie.
Like, whenever we were kids, whenever you'd lie, you'd come up with a more creative story than the truth.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
That's kind of...
Details, when they're unnecessary, kind of mean you're lying.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's how you know that your girlfriend is having an affair on you.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
An affair on you.
dan friesen
I accept it.
jordan holmes
You are sleeping, and then she just starts fucking on top of you, and you're like, am I involved?
And that's a no.
dan friesen
No, you're the cuck.
Like all the libtards.
jordan holmes
You're a progtard.
dan friesen
It's progtard now.
I forgot.
There we go.
alex jones
And there were giant trains, just long lines of trains with flat cars loaded with APCs and LAVs.
That's armored personnel carriers and light armored vehicles.
The marine type, just all over the place.
They have flatbed trailers.
They have large cattle trailer type situations, navy blue or black, lined up.
jordan holmes
Or maybe red or maybe green.
They look like flatbed trucks.
Have you ever seen a flatbed truck?
Turns out that's a military vehicle.
dan friesen
Hey, Alex, this is your producer.
Color is not super important at this point.
Gonna have to just tell you.
Hey, keep on...
Keep on, message.
jordan holmes
You could have just said light armored vehicle and been done.
dan friesen
Done.
jordan holmes
That would have been...
That actually is legitimately scary if you see all of these lightly armored vehicles.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You know, like, say, a car with a lot of phone books in the lining?
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
That's a lightly armored vehicle?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's pretty scary to see.
Somebody's doing some shit if they've got that.
dan friesen
But, like, in my 32 years of life...
On a number of occasions, I have seen...
jordan holmes
Could you provide more details to you being 32?
I don't actually believe you.
dan friesen
I like lemon in my water.
I'm running out of specifics.
I spent it all on that last...
jordan holmes
My knees began to hurt around 29. It turns out that most people, they hurt at 30, but I'm an early bloomer.
dan friesen
I became aware of my cross-eye at 6. That was exactly 26 years ago.
When you bring math into it, then you're fucked.
I have seen large convoys of military machinery being moved.
It's never been a suspicious thing.
Sometimes you've got to move machinery.
jordan holmes
I like...
Sometimes I do have this...
dan friesen
And sometimes you make shit up.
jordan holmes
I have this fun fantasy.
Anytime you see one of those giant windmill trucks that carry those windmill blades that are forever across, I do have this tendency to look at it and be like, that's a big fucking plane.
unidentified
It is.
jordan holmes
That's a big fucking plane.
dan friesen
I want to give you two options.
Do you want to go for something scary?
Or do you want to go to a commercial break?
jordan holmes
Well, we just did something scary, so we've got to go to a commercial break.
dan friesen
Alright, we will go to our next commercial break, and this is...
jordan holmes
Do you actually hear, it's alright, because we're saved by the bell!
dan friesen
Oh, I thought you were going with Kenny Loggins.
I'm alright.
Don't nobody worry about Y2K.
jordan holmes
If I'm going to reference Kenny Loggins, you better believe it's going to be Danger Zone.
unidentified
Weak.
dan friesen
Weak.
So this is pretty much all the evidence you need.
This commercial, how shitty it is, how offensive it is, that the name of the game is scaring people to sell things.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Oh, that's some scary-ass fucking music right there.
dan friesen
Now we've got to start over.
Control yourself.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
unidentified
Many of you have been preparing for the worst of times, putting away storable foods and water.
dan friesen
Which is what the last commercial told you to do.
jordan holmes
Yep.
dan friesen
But.
unidentified
But...
This makes perfect sense.
We at Midas Resources urge you to consider the possibility of having to flee for your lives.
Though the very prospect of this sounds grim, the possibilities are more than remote.
Asian countries now having long-range nuclear bombs, a politically unstable Russia, and an increasing presence of NATO here on U.S. soil could spark a ground war in the West.
jordan holmes
Wait, NATO is going to spark a ground war because they're on U.S. soil?
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Okay, now...
I think that's an irresponsible ad.
dan friesen
That was trying to sell gold, by the way.
jordan holmes
But, well, yeah, it's the Midas.
Midas resources.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
No, it doesn't get more gold bullshit than that.
dan friesen
So the guy...
jordan holmes
But here's, real quick...
If that was how they sold iPods in the 90s, goddammit, I would have bought so many iPods.
NATO is coming off that American soil.
You're going to need something to listen to in the apocalypse.
dan friesen
Get this iPod touch.
jordan holmes
It holds all the songs, man.
dan friesen
That was Midas Resources, which is a company owned by a guy named Mr. Anderson, who is also the guy who owns GCN.
jordan holmes
A former police officer and military commander who is also a good Christian.
dan friesen
Also in The Matrix.
jordan holmes
This is when The Matrix came out, right?
It was 1999 or was it 98?
dan friesen
Might have been 2000.
jordan holmes
I swear it was in the 90s.
dan friesen
Could be.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Alright.
Unimportant.
Anyway, this guy owns...
unidentified
At this point, literally anything is more important.
dan friesen
This guy owns GCN, the Genesis Communications Network, which broadcasts Alex Jones' show, and he also owns Midas Resources, which is the people who sell gold.
jordan holmes
Synergy.
dan friesen
And Alex Jones also is a part owner in the Gold Sales Consortium.
Excellent.
jordan holmes
I'm assuming that they disclose this conflict of interest at the beginning of every episode.
unidentified
Nope.
jordan holmes
They don't ever disclose this conflict of interest?
dan friesen
Not even when Anderson was on the show.
As a guest.
He was on and they talked about how great an investment gold was.
And they don't even talk about how they're all in a rat king of financial entanglements.
It's insane.
jordan holmes
Yeah!
Yeah, but I feel like now that is literally every media conglomerate, right?
dan friesen
It's not as overt as this.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, no, that's intense.
dan friesen
And also, I mentioned this on the last episode, and I think it's important to bring back up.
Midas Resources is the company that now sells the weird health products.
jordan holmes
Yes.
dan friesen
You can go to their website.
It's midasresources.com.
jordan holmes
The health products that turn you to gold!
dan friesen
And are created and supported and vouched for by a veterinarian.
By Dr. Wallach.
Veterinarian.
jordan holmes
I love you, Dr. Spaceman!
dan friesen
I actually did some research into him between episodes because I wanted to confirm that I wasn't talking shit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I'm not.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
But the thing that I also found out that I feel really bad about is that Hugh and I went to the same college.
jordan holmes
No shit!
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
We're both alumni of the University of Missouri.
I felt so bad.
jordan holmes
Now, here's the question you never answered.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
Is he a good veterinarian?
dan friesen
I think he's the best.
jordan holmes
What if he's a really good veterinarian?
dan friesen
Who gives a shit?
jordan holmes
Well, no.
I'm more likely to buy bullshit products from a veterinarian who's super good at veterinarian.
dan friesen
He did study dietary medicine in college.
Or not dietary medicine.
jordan holmes
In your same program?
dan friesen
I don't own the college.
I just went there and I barely graduated.
Let's be clear.
jordan holmes
That's better than me.
I never graduated shit.
dan friesen
Let's be clear.
It took me five years and I had to come up with a fake major to do it.
So, I got out.
Alright.
jordan holmes
Did you call it veterinary medicine?
dan friesen
I wish I was Dr. fucking Wallach.
He's way richer than me.
I am fucking broke.
jordan holmes
He's basically...
But that's the same shit that Dr. Oz does.
Like, he's not better than Dr. Oz.
dan friesen
No, but I'm not douching for either of them.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he's not worse than Dr. Oz.
dan friesen
Oh, that reminds me.
If you're listening...
We are now on iTunes.
jordan holmes
Oh, shit!
Subscribe to our podcast to hear crazy bullshit.
dan friesen
I have set up...
This is a podcast now.
Last episode was just on YouTube, but now if you subscribe...
You can get that episode and future episodes now on iTunes.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and I don't want to say, because I would never say this, but I don't want to say that we're the only source of information.
unidentified
But we're the best.
jordan holmes
We're the only source that gives to you this focus.
dan friesen
So focused.
jordan holmes
So focused.
dan friesen
Also, you can follow us on Twitter at knowledge underscore fight dot com.
At knowledge underscore fight.
jordan holmes
We couldn't get knowledge fight?
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
Who's got it?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I didn't look, but then also I was trying to get Knowledge Fight 69. But it's too many letters.
jordan holmes
That would be fucking great.
It's too many letters.
dan friesen
You can only get one number past Knowledge Fight.
jordan holmes
Oh.
unidentified
I was like, fuck.
dan friesen
So Knowledge underscore Fight on Twitter.
What else?
If you want to email us, you can email us at knowledgefight at gmail.com.
We've got all of it.
jordan holmes
Yeah, man.
dan friesen
So we've got some social media presence.
jordan holmes
And I think this really came about because you were talking about it where it's like, you know, if we get a lot of viewers on the YouTubes...
And you said that specifically.
You said YouTubes.
dan friesen
Let's be clear.
jordan holmes
We did not get a lot of videos.
We got a few!
But that's what I'm saying.
It quickly spiraled out of control for you, where it's like, this has to be a fucking podcast.
I just love doing it too much.
dan friesen
But at the same time, I did get a lot of positive feedback from people on Twitter and emails and stuff like that.
So I did hear back from a lot of people who really enjoyed it.
So I don't want to provide for that.
But also, we're not done.
jordan holmes
Oh, no!
Are we done?
Do you want to put some Saved by the Bell music?
Could you edit in some Saved by the Bell music while we were doing that?
dan friesen
I'm all right.
Don't nobody worry about me.
I'm just going to sing some Kenny Loggins.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
No, we're not done.
I just realized that I forgot to say that up top.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Might as well do it now.
jordan holmes
Great podcasting.
dan friesen
So now, unfortunately...
jordan holmes
Experienced podcaster Dan Friesen.
dan friesen
Unfortunately, I have some bad news, Jordan.
jordan holmes
What's that?
alex jones
Well, I'll tell you this.
the russians that the breath and they now reserve the park strike right for no reason to hit us says he will absorb the first strike he's such a good little communist well he's good i hope that one of those five missiles that it works in place and not mine Well, first of all, if you are going to do a nuclear first strike, if you pick Austin first, you have no idea where anybody in America is.
dan friesen
Well, if you are smart...
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You know.
jordan holmes
You take out Alex Jones first?
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
Because he's the only one.
Okay.
dan friesen
All right.
He's the head of the Patriots.
You understand.
And without him, he's the bellwether.
As goes Alex Jones, so goes the nation.
jordan holmes
The very first words were, they reserved the right to first strike.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Can you just do that?
I feel like if you're going to first strike, you don't reserve the right.
You don't call the restaurant in advance and be like, hey.
I'm gonna give you the signal that I'm gonna take the first strike.
Wouldn't you surprise people?
dan friesen
You're going to bomb a restaurant?
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, that's where Clinton's going to be.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, of course.
jordan holmes
He loves restaurants.
Back then, he was still fat.
Yeah, this is back whenever Clinton was fat.
dan friesen
Well, is it?
No, he went out of office in 2000.
He had gotten a little bit trim by then.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but now he's fucking...
He's a good-looking man.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So you might have been asking yourself there, what is he talking about?
What's this five missiles thing?
Were you asking yourself that?
jordan holmes
I have never asked myself.
I love that more.
dan friesen
So, like, they're talking about this, like, they reserve the right for first strike, and then this other voice comes in, his co-host, and he's like, I hope those five missiles are coming towards Clinton's house.
jordan holmes
Oh, that was a different voice.
dan friesen
Yeah, that was his co-host, which actually, he has got a fucking gorgeous line a little bit later.
jordan holmes
Okay, I'm excited.
dan friesen
You might be curious about this, and this is the narrative that takes over the sort of...
jordan holmes
Wait, but one more second.
One more second for this one.
dan friesen
Of course.
jordan holmes
Clinton said he would absorb the first strike.
dan friesen
Well, we would.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, I mean, not him personally.
It's not just him.
He's not Dr. Reed.
dan friesen
Or he's not just some guy jumping on a grenade.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
This is unconventional, but I propose we have a cigarette inside.
jordan holmes
Oh, no.
dan friesen
It's gotten to that point.
jordan holmes
All righty.
Let's do this.
We're the only podcast who brings it to you this concentrated.
dan friesen
Yeah, we're so focused that we're explaining to you we're about to light up cigarettes.
jordan holmes
You know...
dan friesen
Actually, I do have...
jordan holmes
At this time in a conversation, I like to smoke Patriot brand cigarettes.
dan friesen
Also, a part of it is that we got a long clip coming up.
Okay.
Might as well have...
Hey, guys, here's what I'm saying.
Smoke them if you got them.
That's my way of saying it.
jordan holmes
This is the only podcast that advocates smoking.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
As a smoker.
I suggest teenagers start it.
dan friesen
We're brought to you by R.J. Reynolds and George Soros.
So here you go.
This is a little bit of an explanation of what he was talking about with those five missiles.
unidentified
For the call, Don, we appreciate it.
We've got to jump on ahead to a guy here who tells us that there are currently missiles being launched.
And where did you hear that from, Blake?
Well, let's bring him in.
It's Scott from Illinois.
Scott, thanks for stopping by.
What's going on?
How are you doing?
ABC just had a special under saying that...
They had the guy in front of the command center in Cheyenne Mountain, a general out there, saying that early in the day that there was five missiles that were launched.
He wouldn't say where they were.
Funny you didn't hear about that.
Pardon?
I said it's kind of funny you didn't hear about that one.
I mean, you know, five missiles got launched, and a general is out in front of Cheyenne Mountain.
Yeah, well, this was just about five minutes ago they said it on Channel 7. Well, they didn't happen to mention which direction they were going or where they were coming from.
Well, one of the reporters asked where they were coming from, where they were going to, what kind of missiles, and he said, I can't give out that information.
dan friesen
So, first of all, I want to say this.
jordan holmes
That feels like some pretty important information to give out.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
I think that...
jordan holmes
Why couldn't you give out that information?
dan friesen
Because I don't think that this actually happened.
jordan holmes
No, well, I feel like if there was a history book that didn't have that in it, that would be a bad history book.
dan friesen
Well, I think that it's probably a mass misinterpretation of an actual news report.
And we'll get to why I believe that in a second.
But I think that there was a news report and a bunch of people misinterpreted it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Well, yeah, I mean, they would have to have misinterpreted.
dan friesen
The reason I wanted to take a pause was because I wanted to give the co-host his first of two props that I'm going to give him.
I don't know who he is.
I don't know his name.
But he...
I like that...
jordan holmes
It's Jalex owns.
dan friesen
I like the idea of him being like...
Hey, it's funny you didn't hear about that.
Because it sounds like he's contesting the story.
jordan holmes
He's really almost...
He's on the edge of being like, Hey, we didn't hear about that.
unidentified
Maybe...
jordan holmes
And then he's like, Tell us more!
dan friesen
But also, he's almost invalidating the story.
He's close to it.
Because he's like, Funny you didn't hear about that.
But that's not actually...
jordan holmes
He got a message in his ear saying, You're dangerously close to pissing off all...
200,000 of our viewers.
dan friesen
And he capitulates right here.
unidentified
God forbid you tell anybody before they get nuked.
We can't trust the American people with that information.
alex jones
If this is true, just like the special operations training with Russians in South Texas when they're burning buildings and laying siege to towns, all part of routine training, of course.
jordan holmes
That's Red Dot!
He just read Red Dot!
alex jones
We can't tell the American people, but we've got to have Russian special forces in the NORAD defense bunkers and systems.
You know, that's all public news.
Because we can trust the Russians.
They're good people.
unidentified
Oh, of course they are.
The Russians are my friends.
I've always felt that way starting back in grade school.
And they told us we've got to hide underneath the desk because of our friends over there in the Soviet Union.
alex jones
Well, when Vladimir is not threatening to nuke us or Yeltsin isn't, or if it's not Jiang Jemin, president of the Chi-Coms.
dan friesen
So, they spin out there a little bit.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they lost the threat.
dan friesen
But that's what happens.
They get this news.
jordan holmes
Also, he got it five minutes ago.
Five minutes ago.
dan friesen
From anonymous caller.
jordan holmes
First at the Cheyenne Mountains.
dan friesen
In Colorado.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Where the only guy who has, like, what?
What does he have that is like, oh, shit, I can detect five missiles.
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
He said that someone on CNN said that.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
I thought he was talking about the general who refused to be named.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
This caller is saying that on CNN they're reporting that.
jordan holmes
Five minutes ago.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
And the first thing he did was call this show.
dan friesen
Right.
To tell them.
jordan holmes
Right.
So he got through immediately, which, as we all know, is how radio shows work.
They just answer the phone like a big red phone.
He's got a giant Batman phone.
That he just pulls up and gets a direct line to Jalex owns.
dan friesen
Let's imagine they're actually screening calls.
And if they are, then, you know, I got missile news.
You're getting to the front of the line.
jordan holmes
I got missile news.
dan friesen
We got missile news.
So a little bit later, we get this call from another weirdo.
unidentified
How's that, boy?
Hey, I'm verifying what that fella said.
I do have a TV in his camp.
That general was at Cheyenne Mountain, Colorado Springs, and he shocked even the news network personnel there, Peter Jennings.
He said that he was shocked by what he said.
All right, that's it.
alex jones
I've got to get serious.
I'll be back in two minutes.
I'm going to put ABC on.
unidentified
Three.
alex jones
You do that, you mainstream sucker.
unidentified
No?
alex jones
I mean, if they're launching missiles and they're announcing it...
Oh, sure, sure.
unidentified
All the time.
alex jones
Did they just go to break?
Five missiles have been launched?
We can't tell you from where or where they're going?
dan friesen
So, I love that, first of all, the co-host is like, you mainstream suck-up.
unidentified
Yeah!
I love that.
jordan holmes
So, just the fact that this guy heard something on CNN means he's a mainstream suck-up, right?
dan friesen
No, he's talking to Alex.
jordan holmes
Oh, he's talking to Alex!
dan friesen
And I love the idea that, like, at this point in Infowars history, the co-host can fucking bust Alex's balls.
I love that.
He's like, oh, you're gonna go check in with CNN, you mainstream fuck.
jordan holmes
I love that.
I wonder why that co-host is no longer with us.
dan friesen
Yeah.
He had a movie deal.
jordan holmes
Vladimir the Ruthless?
dan friesen
Maybe.
So, we got a caller who's in a camp.
jordan holmes
That was, yeah, the camp.
dan friesen
Well, but that's what we start to realize, too, is that all of these callers, a lot of these callers, are coming from...
jordan holmes
Camps.
dan friesen
...weird patriot types.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
Militia folk.
If you will.
jordan holmes
They are a History Channel special waiting to happen.
dan friesen
Once we're out of the woods.
jordan holmes
So he's got a TV in the camp that he has tuned to ABC.
dan friesen
Sure.
Why not watch the mainstream media even if you don't believe them?
jordan holmes
Is this still back when there were only four channels?
I don't remember 1999.
Is this whenever you have CNN and PBS and that's basically it?
dan friesen
Well, PBS does come up in a little bit.
Excellent.
No, there were a number of stations.
jordan holmes
I'm guessing that PBS comes up in a very positive way.
dan friesen
Very.
So we finish out this sort of weird narrative of the missiles here.
jordan holmes
Five missiles!
We don't know where they're fired from or where they're going.
We just know there are five missiles somewhere.
dan friesen
I love Alex Jones responding to the news with, alright, I gotta get serious.
Alright, you haven't been this whole time?
jordan holmes
It's time to get serious.
dan friesen
You dick.
jordan holmes
Let's kill a human.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So here we go.
This introduces, this is another caller, and he introduces an organization that, this is great.
I just, here we go.
unidentified
We're going to jump to Mark Kornke calling in from Michigan.
How are you, Mark?
Hey, guys.
Sounds like we've been busy.
First of all, the ABC report did have a NORAD commander who came up and online as part of the Space Command specifically talking about...
jordan holmes
Space Command.
Space Command.
dan friesen
I've got to pull this back a little bit.
jordan holmes
Space Command.
dan friesen
Space Command.
jordan holmes
On the moon, right?
He believes it's on the moon.
dan friesen
No, no.
Space Command.
unidentified
Space Command.
jordan holmes
A NORAD guy from Space Command.
Space Command?
dan friesen
It's like, they're like, yeah, there's this guy from Galaxy Quest.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
Tony Shalhoub came on the news.
jordan holmes
This is when Alan Rickman still roamed the Earth as a god.
dan friesen
Yeah.
So here we go.
unidentified
Specifically talking about...
Space Command has taken over all the services.
dan friesen
Yep, as Alex Jones is reporting.
jordan holmes
The Arkansas Department of Transportation, they've taken over all of the lightly armored vehicles.
dan friesen
All of it.
jordan holmes
All of the fucking cars.
dan friesen
Yeah.
Meanwhile, we can't forget that ATMs are running out of money all over the world.
Gas is out in Austin.
jordan holmes
How would you know they're running out of money all over the world?
dan friesen
Because Alex is telling you.
jordan holmes
Also, are there ATMs?
There are ATMs all over the world.
dan friesen
Yeah.
No, that is true.
jordan holmes
Okay.
I feel like that was the most ignorant thing I've ever said.
That was the most America-centric thing.
dan friesen
But I'm glad you checked in.
jordan holmes
Part of me was like, I feel like ATMs only exist in Chicago, right?
dan friesen
But I'm glad that you didn't present it as, this is dumb because ATMs don't exist in Europe.
Or something like that, which is what Alex would do.
jordan holmes
No, well, I didn't think...
So my specific thought at that moment was like, really?
There's ATMs in Uganda in 1999?
dan friesen
Maybe not.
jordan holmes
And I would bet there are.
dan friesen
In some cities, yeah, but not widespread.
jordan holmes
It was just a dumb thought that released from my brain before I allowed it to stop.
dan friesen
So anyway, Space Command has taken over.
jordan holmes
Space Command!
alex jones
Command running everything.
unidentified
Actually, about two years ago, we got hold of a lot of their patches.
So don't worry, guys.
We can look just like them when the time comes.
dan friesen
So this is a guy who's in a militia.
unidentified
Whoa.
dan friesen
And he has gotten Space Command patches.
jordan holmes
Now we're in Star Trek territory.
dan friesen
Yep.
We have insignias.
jordan holmes
So...
So just by wearing a patch, you can infiltrate Space Command?
dan friesen
Now you can look like him.
jordan holmes
Space Command is very lax in their security.
Now this is a pre-9-11 world, so Space Command is unworried about terrorism.
dan friesen
Pre-9-11 Space Command.
Which is the name of my second rap album.
jordan holmes
Okay, that's a good one.
dan friesen
I also want to kick my own ass for making album name jokes.
That's so hacky.
I apologize about it.
jordan holmes
Um, yeah.
dan friesen
You know what would be better if I just said pre-9-11 Space Command?
That's a great collection of words.
jordan holmes
That's really what I meant to say.
That is the least hacky joke you can make.
The just, like, borderline non-observation.
dan friesen
So the militia member rambles on for a little bit, but, uh...
unidentified
We're not joking.
We actually do have everything I saw in his uniform we already picked up.
We look just like these guys if you want to.
dan friesen
So you're just saying we can look like these guys.
We can blend in.
jordan holmes
We look just like these guys if you want.
So he's combining Red Dawn with They Live.
dan friesen
And Nukes.
And Space Command.
jordan holmes
And Space Command.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, I can't get past Space Command.
dan friesen
It's pretty tough.
jordan holmes
I want to engage with everything else he's saying, but where and who and how does Space Command come about?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I'm going to Google it.
jordan holmes
Okay.
If you Google Space Command, you're not going to get something other than Star Trek.
dan friesen
Well, I got the North American Aerospace Defense Command.
jordan holmes
Okay, so let's call that Space Command.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
What do they do?
dan friesen
I'm looking this up on Wikipedia here.
jordan holmes
Space Command.
dan friesen
Oh, fuck.
It is in Colorado Springs.
jordan holmes
No shit!
We're the idiots!
Oh my god!
dan friesen
Or we're not.
It's not called Space Command.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but it's close.
If it was real...
It would totally be shortened to Space Command, right?
Just like the Affordable Care Act was shortened to Obamacare.
dan friesen
Yeah, you know what?
Let's be entirely fair.
Yes.
Space Command is a silly name, but it is what you would think.
jordan holmes
We're 100% wrong on this, ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
We're not 100% wrong.
We're wrong in making fun of the name.
We're not even wrong in making fun of the name.
jordan holmes
No, not in making fun of the name.
We were making fun of the name in a complete disbelief of like...
Our head was going towards this guy thought it was on the moon, like Moonraker.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
So, yeah.
dan friesen
But, I mean, the North American Aerospace Defense Command is just NORAD.
So NORAD, a slang term for that would be Space Command, I guess.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
So we're now 100% right again.
dan friesen
We're in the middle.
Who cares?
I mean, we...
jordan holmes
I do.
If we're going to be anti-Alex Jones, we, one, need to admit when we're wrong.
And then need to bounce back and admit that we are actually right all the time.
dan friesen
I'm okay with that.
Because history has borne out that we're, first of all, not wrong.
And second of all, Space Command didn't take over everything.
jordan holmes
See, there, you know what?
How can we be sure?
dan friesen
Yeah, I guess we can't, you know?
jordan holmes
I mean, when you start to see the Arkansas Department of Transportation on the road...
dan friesen
Third-hand sources are telling us that...
These people might have signs.
jordan holmes
My girlfriend knows someone.
She still doesn't believe me, but she knows somebody.
dan friesen
No, she didn't believe me, but now she does.
jordan holmes
Now she does?
I feel like he said that she wasn't on board yet.
dan friesen
Nope, she was.
At every point in the future, not on board.
Now, she has a friend who told her about signs.
Now she's on board.
jordan holmes
Signs, signs.
dan friesen
Anyway, here's...
jordan holmes
Everywhere there's signs.
dan friesen
Here's something scary.
jordan holmes
That Space Command has taken over.
dan friesen
I don't remember exactly what this clip is, but it's scary.
And then we'll wrap things up here in a second with an explanation of why you don't know about any of this.
unidentified
Okay.
alex jones
I mean, I read Yeltsin and Jiang Zemin's quotes, the dictator of China in there.
They're saying, we'll nuke you.
I mean, they spell it out.
We will hit you with nuclear weapons.
We reserve the right to hit you.
Three weeks ago, their head of other missile forces said, we reserve the right to nuke you first.
Their currency is plunging.
The Egyptian pound is plunging against the dollar, the Japanese yen, the Deutsche Mark, and just all of it.
And the same thing is starting to develop here in America.
Many of the gas stations here in Austin have the little gloves over the pumps saying they're out of fuel.
You never see this in Austin, Texas.
Right here in South Austin, I've seen several stations.
We don't know.
This is just Y2K that was here.
dan friesen
Not sure what that means, also.
jordan holmes
Y2K was here?
dan friesen
We don't know if it was Y2K that was here, like it's a hurricane.
jordan holmes
That is a bathroom stall that he saw that on right there.
dan friesen
For Y2K, call.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
dan friesen
This clip isn't done.
jordan holmes
Oh, how can this clip not be done?
unidentified
Okay.
Sorry.
alex jones
Just bizarre behavior.
Americans standing up as Russia threatens to attack us with nuclear weapons, as nuclear power plants, at least one, are being shut down, as the military runs around with the police and the FBI saying terrorism is imminent, and some would characterize us as dangerous because we report the facts.
Absolutely out of control.
dan friesen
How fucking awesome is that last sentence?
jordan holmes
Absolutely out of control.
dan friesen
How fucking amazing is it?
Some people would think they were dangerous because we report the facts.
jordan holmes
Facts are dangerous.
That's a true adage from all the time ago.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, so...
China and Russia have reserved the right to first strike us with nuclear weapons.
Now, let's leave that as being an insane sentence on its own.
But why would they do that?
Does he ever give an explanation for why they would do the first strike?
Because wouldn't it not be a first strike if they didn't have a reason for it?
dan friesen
But their only reason is that Clinton has already said that we'll absorb the first strike.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Or whatever.
Because he's a pussy communist.
jordan holmes
So that's what he's basically saying, is that because Clinton is willing to not destroy the world, they now know that they can destroy the world.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
So even then, right?
So they do the first strike.
It's not like...
dan friesen
Are you wargaming this thing?
jordan holmes
I'm wargaming it, yeah.
Because I am in...
In the movie War Games.
dan friesen
So they do the first strike.
jordan holmes
I have a small Matthew Broderick role in all Matthew Broderick movies.
dan friesen
You're War Games-ing, I'm Red Donning.
unidentified
Right, okay.
jordan holmes
Wolverines!
dan friesen
I'm shocked they didn't yell that at some point.
jordan holmes
I swear, yeah.
Because this is all straight out of Red Dawn.
dan friesen
A lot of it.
jordan holmes
Which is ironic because Red Dawn is basically the, like, hey, this is what we're doing to other countries.
dan friesen
It's ironic.
Born in the USA.
jordan holmes
This is how hypocritical we are.
dan friesen
But, fucking Jordan, get to your war games.
jordan holmes
Don't get sidetracked.
I'm always getting sidetracked by this.
dan friesen
That's our nature.
jordan holmes
They put so much to dig into in one sentence.
I don't understand how they do it.
dan friesen
Yeah, it's like a protein pellet.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's so compact.
jordan holmes
It's like a perfect male virility pill.
Ladies and gentlemen, have you tried male virility pills?
dan friesen
It's super male vitality now available.
jordan holmes
Ladies and gentlemen.
dan friesen
Ladies get super female vitality now available at Infowarsstore.com.
I'm giving them plugs.
jordan holmes
Who does this shit?
All right, all right.
So, because Clinton is a pussy, and their currency is dropping, along with the Deutsche Mark, which, okay.
dan friesen
And the Egyptian pound.
jordan holmes
And the Egyptian pound, and the Japanese yen.
But those are neither of the two countries that are going to first strike us.
So, so...
They're going to first strike us.
dan friesen
Japan ostensibly is our ally.
Egypt is maybe a rogue actor at this point.
jordan holmes
So they first strike us, and they take out all of us?
dan friesen
Austin.
jordan holmes
Just Austin.
So does he not understand the mutually assured destruction kind of idea there?
dan friesen
Well, but if they take out the right places, then we have no capability to respond.
jordan holmes
Do you not think that we've thought of that?
dan friesen
Uh, no.
I think we've thought of that.
jordan holmes
You think that we've put all of our missiles in D.C.?
dan friesen
I'm a little bit red wine drunk, and I'm confident that we've always thought of that.
I'm 100% sure.
jordan holmes
I am pretty sure only New York, only our largest population centers have nuclear weapons, because that makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
I don't even think that they have them in them.
jordan holmes
No, I feel like they do.
dan friesen
I think that strategically you'd want to place them in other places.
I think you'd want to put them...
jordan holmes
See, that's what you're missing, alright?
All of China's nuclear weapons are in Beijing.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
All of Russia's nuclear weapons are in Moscow.
That is where you would build them.
dan friesen
But then, once you've built them, you can move them and station them other places.
Right?
I mean...
jordan holmes
Oh.
That had not occurred to me, or either of those governments, or the U.S. government.
dan friesen
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
So, somehow, you have outsmarted...
dan friesen
I don't know what's going on right now.
Alright, so you might be asking yourself a little bit.
jordan holmes
So, this is the problem with this episode.
At no point does anybody break down after the five missiles and say, it's time to pray.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
But you know what they do do?
Never get to the bottom of it.
There's never a point where they're like, hey, that was bullshit, sorry about that.
Nothing.
Nothing like that.
Just move along to the next thing to be really afraid of.
jordan holmes
Do they ever get to the Y2K bug as being the...
So they're saying the apocalypse is coming because of Y2K.
Do they ever at any point make you afraid of Y2K?
dan friesen
Not really.
jordan holmes
Oh, okay.
That seems like a bad Y2K episode.
dan friesen
No, because it's all about the globalists using the Y2K bug idea in order to push their agenda and create false flag activity.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Now, you might be asking yourself...
jordan holmes
I would love to be asking myself any number of questions.
dan friesen
Why are we finding all of these truths?
All of these power plants?
All of these people dying in Chechnya, the 100,000 people dying in Chechnya, all of the...
jordan holmes
The five missiles.
dan friesen
The gas being out everywhere.
The five missiles.
jordan holmes
In Austin, which never happens.
dan friesen
The water being off the shelves everywhere.
The power grid going down various places.
The shortwave radio going down.
jordan holmes
The North Pole.
dan friesen
Why doesn't everyone know?
jordan holmes
I want to know why everybody doesn't know.
dan friesen
We got an answer.
alex jones
Flipping around, and they weren't really giving us any news about the mass Y2K problems that are being reported across the globe that are being covered up in mainstream media and relegated to the back pages of the newswires.
But I'm flipping around, and on PBS, you're locally in town.
I don't know if it's on in other areas around the country, but on public broadcasting, the elite likes to see their garbage.
They were going, we worship the sun.
We worship Anthem.
unidentified
I mean, this is out of control.
alex jones
Two nights ago, Wednesday night on Fox News, they showed the old airport, Robert Mueller, right in the middle of town.
He used to live in Austin.
Michael, you know how big it is.
They shut this thing down three months ago, even though the new airport wasn't done, wasn't completed.
And they go, here are the new hangars and the payment facilities for any troublemakers during the new millennium.
Rioters or kooks or terrorists.
And they show these barbed wire fences, chain link fences inside of the hangars, Michael, and shackles on the ground, concreted.
Into the ground.
Like something out of a slave galley or something that you would see 3,000 years ago.
unidentified
Like slave only happened 3,000 years ago.
dan friesen
As if that's the point that we need to discuss.
jordan holmes
Well, to Texas, in their defense, slavery did happen 3,000 years ago.
dan friesen
Clip is amazing because it's basically being like, why aren't you hearing about this stuff?
The media's covering it up.
But then we gotta not dwell on that, which seems to be the main point.
jordan holmes
Does seem to be the main point.
dan friesen
No, we gotta talk about this airport hangar again.
jordan holmes
Also, PBS...
But only in Austin.
dan friesen
Well, because the elites like to see their garbage.
jordan holmes
The elites like to see their garbage.
dan friesen
They're sun worshippers.
jordan holmes
That was the crazy...
They worshipped the sun!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Is that even close to a reference to solar power?
Or is that just a dude saying...
dan friesen
I think it's about, like, Illuminati shit.
jordan holmes
Okay.
Alright, alright.
So, we're talking Bilderberg and all the whole...
Every Illuminati...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
Also, by the way, if you guys want some fun, Look into the real story of Alex Jones breaking into the Bohemian Grove.
It's amazing.
jordan holmes
He broke into the Bohemian Grove.
dan friesen
You don't know about that?
jordan holmes
I do know about the Bohemian Grove, the Bohemian Grove.
dan friesen
This is how he came into the map.
That's how he got on the map.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
As a conspiracy theorist.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
He broke into Bohemian Grove and videotaped the cremation of care ceremony, which is where they sacrifice an effigy of a baby to the giant stone owl Moloch.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
And, yeah, it's insane.
jordan holmes
So he caught them?
dan friesen
On tape, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He caught them on tape?
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a documentary about it you can watch.
jordan holmes
I can't believe it's not in the mainstream.
dan friesen
Yeah.
unidentified
Did PBS pick it up at least?
dan friesen
In Austin.
jordan holmes
Because the elites like to watch their garbage.
dan friesen
Right.
So he broke into Bohemian Grove and videotaped this stuff.
And, I mean, it's weird, but it's not anything that's damning.
If you watch the actual video, it's fucked up.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's fucked up that they're like...
They're talking to a giant owl that has Walter Cronkite's voice coming out of it.
jordan holmes
That's pretty great.
dan friesen
He recorded the vocals for Moloch, the giant stone owl.
jordan holmes
He also recorded the vocals on Young Thug's new album.
I don't know if you guys have listened to that.
It's a great album.
My name is Jeffrey.
You can hear Walter Cronkite on the back of Pop Man with Wyclef Jean.
unidentified
Fools!
dan friesen
That's what Moloch says.
unidentified
Welcome to Space Command!
jordan holmes
Now, one thing to do before we go.
The Y2K bug.
If I understood it correctly when it happened, the entire thing was that our computer system didn't understand how to go from the 1900s to the 2000s.
dan friesen
That was literally everything.
jordan holmes
That was exactly the whole point.
dan friesen
Everyone's fear was that once it became two instead of one, our computers weren't built to handle that, and because of that, all of our systems would crash.
So simultaneously, you'd have Wall Street computers crash, everything that ran, everything crashed, every bank would go out.
So that was the big fear.
unidentified
Which everyone knew was dumb.
jordan holmes
How is it that we're having Y2K problems?
Before Y2, or before the switch over on the clock.
dan friesen
What do you mean by that?
jordan holmes
I mean, he's saying that we're having all these Y2K problems on all of these power plants, on all of these, all the planes are in the sky.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But it's not, like, this isn't exactly at the new year, right?
dan friesen
Right.
It's tough to argue, or it's tough to figure out, well, I guess, here's what I would say.
If I were Alex Jones, my defense would be the globalists got sloppy.
They thought no one would notice it was an hour early.
jordan holmes
That is a great defense.
dan friesen
Or just time zone.
Say time zone.
jordan holmes
See, that's what I was...
That was my whole...
When Y2K was happening and everybody was panicked about it, I was like, guys, do you know we're not the first ones to get to...
dan friesen
We'll see what happens with them.
jordan holmes
To the year 2000.
We can just go back.
We can watch it.
If it's a problem.
dan friesen
Yeah, I think that that would be...
I mean, that's a very reasonable 13-year-old.
Meanwhile, we had a 30-year-old screaming in Austin.
jordan holmes
Don't worry, I was an asshole at the time, too.
dan friesen
I'm sure.
But, I mean, look, we've heard the clips.
This is about where we're going to jump off here.
You guys get a pretty...
Here's my summation.
First of all, looking at it as a performer...
I have to assume Alex the next day was like, that was a bad set.
jordan holmes
Really?
You think so?
dan friesen
I have to assume, because he had to know that everything he was saying was verifiably false.
jordan holmes
That is not a bad set, though.
dan friesen
Fair enough.
I'm applying my own standards to him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, you're not measuring a bad set by whether or not you told the truth.
dan friesen
That's true.
jordan holmes
You're measuring the set by...
Because you started with this presumption.
dan friesen
You judge him by the audience's reaction.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
And his audience loved it.
jordan holmes
You started with the presumption that he was a journalist, which...
I do not agree with.
I'm an idealist.
The same way that Bill O 'Reilly is not a journalist, he is an entertainer.
So what he's doing is entertaining his audience, and he fucking nailed it.
dan friesen
Yeah, probably.
jordan holmes
So that was the greatest set of his life.
dan friesen
Probably.
jordan holmes
I bet, I bet.
The night Obama was elected was the greatest set of his life.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
I bet he fucking rocked it.
Like, he could have been in Madison Square Garden with nothing but the militias and absolutely destroyed.
unidentified
He smells like sulfur.
dan friesen
But then beyond that, I think the clips that we've shown, I've listened to a bunch more than we played.
It's all just repetitions of the same things.
jordan holmes
So then maybe it was a bad set.
dan friesen
I think that the indications that we should all take away from this and the lessons we should learn is that at best, I want to give the benefit of the doubt, and Alex Jones is a terrible, terrible person because he sits on the air when he knows that people are scared and he helps them be scared.
And he takes unverified reports You just described Fox News from 2008.
That's fair enough, and we'll do another podcast about them in the future.
jordan holmes
Here's what I think we should take away from this episode.
dan friesen
You can't compare a bad to a bad, you know what I'm saying?
jordan holmes
No, no, you're right.
Here's what I see in taking away from this episode, right?
Our first episode, we went with this day, you know?
Whenever we recorded it, it was that day.
This is 17 years ago.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
It is the same bullshit.
dan friesen
Yep.
jordan holmes
So for however long we've been doing this, he has come at you with the same...
He's like an apocalypse cult.
Like, do you remember those guys in the...
That's super specific.
I heard this from a friend who saw it on CNN.
dan friesen
Who heard it from a friend?
Who heard it from a friend?
They've been messing around.
jordan holmes
There are a bunch of apocalypse cults that have existed throughout this, throughout America's history.
And when they're wrong, half of them probably kill themselves.
But the other half just keep predicting more apocalypses.
dan friesen
They find new news that changes the date.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
We were going through the whole Kabbalah thing.
The Bible told us yada, yada, yada.
dan friesen
We transversed a variable.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
We got it wrong, but this next one is happening.
dan friesen
My dad, one of his specializations, he's a religious studies professor, and one of his specializations is revelation and apocalyptic literature.
And so whenever there are these people who come out...
Who are saying the end of the world is next week.
jordan holmes
And also people who are closeted and they tell their parents they're gay.
Whenever they come out.
dan friesen
Sure.
Whenever these folks tell the world that next week everyone's gay.
I mixed it all up there.
jordan holmes
Close enough.
It's the same basic nonsense.
dan friesen
It happens over and over again.
And often he'll be asked to comment about it on NPR and stuff like that.
And thank God he existed because I was a scared child.
During some of that.
There were apocalypse scares when I was young.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And thankfully he was always there to be like, you're 10, I can't really explain it to you, but don't worry.
jordan holmes
But chill the fuck out.
dan friesen
This is all nonsense.
And thank God, because it comforted me in a way that if my dad was Alex Jones, he would have scared me.
jordan holmes
That is amazing, because that's a guy who's turned rational.
For my parents, they lived during, just like that dude was saying, you would go to school and they would show you the day after, which was the scariest movie at the time.
And then we got Nightmare on Elm Street 3. And they were told to get under the desk, which, oh, so good.
dan friesen
Delicious.
jordan holmes
As a concept of, like, it doesn't get more pacifying than, like, Your desk is gonna save you.
Don't worry about it.
dan friesen
That little bit of wood.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
dan friesen
It's great.
jordan holmes
The walls?
Garbage.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That little desk?
Fucking undestructible.
dan friesen
But here is the other piece of it.
jordan holmes
I know the word is indestructible, by the way.
dan friesen
That wasn't what I was gonna say.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
The other piece of it is...
jordan holmes
That was more for the listeners.
dan friesen
If you're an adult and you really believe that a nuke could go off tomorrow, telling kids to get under a desk is the right thing to do.
Because there's nothing they can do.
And giving them some sort of agency makes a kid feel like they have control.
And that is very helpful to a kid.
jordan holmes
That's a very good angle to take on it.
dan friesen
In terms of parenting, that's the right thing to do.
Now, as a society, it's the wrong thing to do.
There were better answers.
But, I mean, listen, I'm glad that you got this message across the idea that for 17 years it's pretty much been the same thing.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
But the variables have changed.
Now Putin's a good guy.
jordan holmes
The enemies change, and that's the illusion of him growing as a broadcaster, is that the boogeymen always change.
dan friesen
They have to.
jordan holmes
So it makes you feel like he is also still, you know, relevant.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Even though he's using the same exact nonsense.
Like, he might as well have a script.
With Mad Libs written in it, and he just writes in whatever's new.
dan friesen
And for 17 years, he's been doing that exact same thing of, like, this person told me, look, I don't want to report it.
That same exact trick we've seen in both of these episodes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
17 years of tricks.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But again, it's like I said on the last episode.
It's amazing broadcasting.
jordan holmes
It really is.
dan friesen
If you take the morality out of it, it's gorgeous broadcasting.
And he's super consistent in terms of him being a propagandistic asshole.
So congratulations on that, Alex.
We'll be back with another episode soon.
Alex should be back in studio, I guess.
I mean, he's not going to be gone until the inauguration.
That's insane.
jordan holmes
Well, he is taking some meetings, and who knows how they might go.
dan friesen
We're recording this in advance.
This is going to come out on Monday, but if I get to work today on Monday...
And there's a fucking guest host?
Livid.
Because here's something I want to say very fucking clearly right now.
The only thing worse than the Alex Jones show is the Alex Jones show without Alex Jones.
It's a dumpster fire.
Anyway.
jordan holmes
We will eventually do an episode on that.
Sooner or later.
dan friesen
Yeah.
You know, it would be good to do dossiers on all of the cohorts at some point.
That's for down the line.
Jordan, this has been a lot of fun.
jordan holmes
This has been the most fun of my life.
dan friesen
I hope your year 2000 goes well.
jordan holmes
I am already terrified for Y3K.
dan friesen
We did our plugs in the middle, so who gives a shit?
Let's end this thing.
We'll see you next time.
alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
dan friesen
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
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