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Jan. 7, 2017 - Knowledge Fight
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#1: January 2, 2017

On this pilot episode, Dan explains the happenings on the Alex Jones Show for Jan 2, 2017. Topics covered include: Was George Soros a literal Nazi? Are China and Saudi Arabia working together? Who listens to InfoWars? What, specifically, is a "digital dropbox?" When, exactly, should a person pray?

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alex jones
12:21
d
dan friesen
43:22
j
jordan holmes
41:06
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alex jones
Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Hello, Alex.
jordan holmes
I'm a first-time caller.
unidentified
I'm a huge fan.
I love your work.
alex jones
I love you.
dan friesen
Hey, everybody.
How's it going?
unidentified
Oh, boy.
dan friesen
Welcome to the Knowledge Fight.
jordan holmes
That is our official opening theme song.
unidentified
I love you.
alex jones
I love you.
jordan holmes
I will marry you.
dan friesen
If you're joining us for the first time, which of course you are.
jordan holmes
You have to be.
dan friesen
This is a show where I am going to...
Have a little discussion with my friend Jordan here.
jordan holmes
That's me.
I'm Jordan Holmes.
dan friesen
Also, I'm Dan.
jordan holmes
We're off to a great start.
dan friesen
Clunky off the top.
I have lately...
jordan holmes
Experienced podcaster Dan Friesen.
dan friesen
Totally.
jordan holmes
Yes.
unidentified
I've been doing this for years, and yet out the gates...
jordan holmes
Still can't introduce himself.
dan friesen
Clunk City.
jordan holmes
That is also the name of this podcast.
Info Wars Wars Clunk City.
dan friesen
The clunked remix.
Chopped and clunked.
So I have, for the last while, been a bit obsessed with one Alex Jones of InfoWars fame.
And as the world has turned to quote a soap opera title, I have become more and more aware that I want...
To do a better job of covering what he does.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's kind of like a Chris Hardwick thing, where it's like the talking dead.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I want to do that.
jordan holmes
You want to do an Alex Jones after show.
dan friesen
Yeah, exactly.
jordan holmes
Where we all sit around wondering who's going to die next week.
unidentified
Exactly.
dan friesen
Spoiler alert, it's all of us.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
We're all dead.
But...
I want to say this.
I want to be very clear about a couple things.
I love you.
It would be so easy to get things misconstrued off the top and I don't want those things to ever come up as a confusion.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
First thing, I in no way want Alex Jones to be taken off the air.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I think what he does is...
jordan holmes
Well, one, when this podcast blows up and we're the number one podcast next year, our careers are entirely tied to his continued success.
unidentified
So we need him.
jordan holmes
Yeah, we need him.
dan friesen
I think what he does borders on entertaining, and on the other side of that border is irresponsible.
But at the same time, I am so opposed to censoring things, I want people to view him in context, but I would never want to shut him down or say he can't do what he does.
Right.
That's an easy attack.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
And it's a slippery slope.
dan friesen
It is.
Yeah, it is.
jordan holmes
If you can go after him, who's next, you know?
Like, as people who say, like, professionally say, dumb shit.
Sure.
dan friesen
On stages?
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
unidentified
On microphones?
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Recorded, in some instances.
dan friesen
Yeah, very foolishly on my part.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
If we start going after those guys, you know, somebody's next that we like.
That said.
dan friesen
And even beyond that, there's a principle of it.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Which we do subscribe to.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
Which is, say whatever you want, as long as it's not, you know, advocating violence against somebody, a threat, or libel.
unidentified
Which he's done.
jordan holmes
Which he's also done.
dan friesen
But he's, that gets me to my second point.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Whatever I'm gonna say, and whatever you're gonna say, I want this to be super clear.
There's a big part of me that really admires Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
And here's why.
jordan holmes
You're an insane person.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
I'm nuts.
dan friesen
He is an amazing broadcaster.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
If you really take the tricks of broadcasting and apply him to them, he is insanely good.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
You could not say a lot of the stuff he does without being really good at your job.
I think that's something that will come out.
We'll see.
There are points where you'll be like, he's great.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I admire his skill.
I don't like what he does with it.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, I think that's probably going to be the central battle of this whole podcast is you trying to prove to me that I should admire him in certain aspects.
dan friesen
I don't think so.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
All right.
Fair enough.
dan friesen
I just wanted to make that caveat off the top because it would be easy for anyone listening to think that this is just going to turn into a beat-up fest and be like, hey, Alex Jones is stupid.
That's not at all.
And, oh, another thing.
I don't think people who listen to him are stupid.
I don't think his fans are stupid.
jordan holmes
Actually, on the way here, that's something I was thinking about.
Where are we on the axis of stupid slash evil?
dan friesen
Personally?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
I'm not evil.
jordan holmes
Not you and me.
Although, we're probably more on the evil side, I would assume.
dan friesen
I would say I'm more stupid.
Most of the evil things I've done in my life have been...
Accidents, let's say.
jordan holmes
You're not a premeditated murder guy.
You're like a second degree murder guy.
Like in the heat of the moment.
dan friesen
Or manslaughter, even.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
In the heat of the moment, oopsies.
dan friesen
I accidentally trigger like a Rube Goldberg machine and it kills someone.
That's the kind of evil I'm at.
It's like, oh no, what happened there?
unidentified
Gotcha.
jordan holmes
Alright, let's do this.
dan friesen
Okay, we want to start with...
I want to start out with something a little bit fun and it kind of, I think, is indicative of...
Oh, this is just one day.
In the life of Alex Jones.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
All of these clips that we're going to play are from the January 2nd, 2017 episode.
Right.
Putting this out a couple days after, but we have to because of just like, we have jobs.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I wish that I could just...
jordan holmes
Our jobs are not Alex Jones' job.
dan friesen
My job is not the brain battle.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
As much as I wish it was.
I wish...
That I could just sit around and isolate these clips and ruminate on them.
jordan holmes
This podcast will also be us occasionally dropping out potential names for this podcast.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
Every episode we may change the name of this podcast.
Good luck finding us!
dan friesen
So, for those of you who don't know who Alex Jones is, he is formerly a wild conspiracy theory broadcaster who then turned, took a bit of a turn into a bit of a preacher.
And then now is basically just super into Trump because he believes that Trump is going to destroy the globalists.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Now, who are the globalists?
It's a nebulous term.
jordan holmes
I really don't want you to say a word that begins with J and ends with Uden.
dan friesen
What about the article?
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
DOS?
jordan holmes
Yes, yeah, yeah.
See, there we go.
dan friesen
MS-DOS.
It's super vague who the globalists are, but they are the ones he's against.
And we know some of the characters that he'll throw out, these are the people who want there to be more trans-Atlantic partnerships.
I'm not necessarily in favor of these things.
I'm not necessarily philosophically opposed to, in principle, some of the things he's for.
Right.
But...
jordan holmes
If he didn't have at least some small aspect of, like, God damn it, I might actually agree with him, he would never be successful.
dan friesen
Undoubtedly.
jordan holmes
If it was just pure on bile all day, every day, for three hours a day.
dan friesen
Four, if you count commercials, which he does a lot of the commercials.
jordan holmes
Oh, of course he does.
dan friesen
Which we'll get to in a minute.
jordan holmes
All right.
dan friesen
But I wanted to start with one of the things that I think is spectacularly indicative.
Of his style of broadcast.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Here are a couple of clips from this day's episode that highlight a tendency within him to want to tell you things but not want to tell you things.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
There's this, like, I...
There's a give and take that he does.
And this goes back to the expert broadcasting thing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
There's an amazing, like, ability to...
Tell you things and not tell you things simultaneously.
jordan holmes
Ooh, that's good.
He's working both angles.
Before we do that, though, let's talk about the central kind of idea of this podcast.
You are an Infowars obsessive.
And I don't know a goddamn thing about Alex Jones.
dan friesen
Yes.
Your role, totally accurate by your description.
I'm not an obsessive.
I'm fascinated.
jordan holmes
Okay, alright.
dan friesen
And I believe that there's a certain responsibility that people have to like...
jordan holmes
The same way I'm not obsessed with any of my ex-girlfriends, I'm just fascinated by their recent actions that don't involve me.
dan friesen
Dude, I told you not to bring up me and Alex's past relationship.
jordan holmes
Okay, sorry, sorry.
dan friesen
It was really fucking brutal.
jordan holmes
I know, I know.
He broke your heart.
dan friesen
Listen.
jordan holmes
And stole your bike.
dan friesen
Listen, you can read between the lines.
All my exes live in Texas.
Also, one of my favorite things is the opening of his show.
It talks about how he's deep within occupied Texas.
jordan holmes
Occupied?
So what?
Austin?
Is that what he's talking about?
He's in Austin.
He's in the only occupied Texas that there is.
unidentified
It's occupied.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Okay, so here's his first clip.
In this one, it also showcases what I would describe as a glaring false humility.
That he has, and I think it's delicious.
unidentified
Because honestly, I don't think many of us are going to be able to hear you here in the very near future.
I honestly believe that they're either going to take you out or you're going to get murdered, same way as Trump.
The reasoning that I'm calling is my personal view on what I think is going to be happening.
And like I said, they're either going to shut your followers down, they're going to take you out, they're going to either have Trump assassinated during the inauguration or right before or right afterwards.
They're not going to let him be president very long.
And personally, as a long-haul truck driver, at this point, I'm considering quitting my job, going home, finding something to do locally, because I don't think that, you know, even something, what I'm doing, I don't think any of this is going to last very much longer.
dan friesen
So while this caller is describing these paranoid fantasies about how someone's going to murder Alex Jones, Alex is sitting there making a hmm face.
jordan holmes
Before we get into what crazy nonsense he's about to say.
Here's the thing I wonder about right-wing people who are always assuming that crazy right-wing people are going to be assassinated.
Right-wing people are never assassinated.
It's always Harvey Milk or Kathy Giffords.
dan friesen
MLK.
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah.
It's always the people who are trying to do good.
Because liberals and progressives ultimately are pussies.
I think that's really what it is.
dan friesen
Well, now the narrative that he would spin, maybe.
I don't want to put words in his mouth.
jordan holmes
False flag operations?
Oh, so good.
dan friesen
Bingo.
You know, it's the globalists taking out the progressives in order to create social chaos.
It's this sort of logic that you can't really get out of because it just becomes circular at a certain point.
So anyway, this caller has raised this concern about how Trump and him are going to be taken out, and here's Alex's response.
alex jones
I was about to say, I was going to be going on the road the next few days and going and having some meetings and things, and I'm just going to leave it at that.
I'd imagine the media could put two and two together.
And I'm tempted to not even leave.
Just because...
But then I...
I don't need to warn people in person.
Put it that way.
unidentified
Yeah, I mean, I'm at the point to where...
I just know that...
alex jones
Yeah, this isn't about pomp and circumstance.
Exactly.
Like, I've already...
I'm not going to even get into it.
The point is, this is so serious.
I'm like, I can do more here.
I don't need to even go have somebody pat me on the head and say thank you.
I mean, you know what I mean?
I mean, I'm so in the bunker at this point.
That I don't even care about meeting with the president.
I'm sorry.
Just go ahead.
dan friesen
Okay.
All right.
All right.
You're in that bunker, my man.
jordan holmes
He's in the bunker.
dan friesen
In Occupy, Texas.
jordan holmes
In Occupy, Texas.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
The Infowars studio.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Full of the delightful people like Rob Du and Joanne McAdoo.
Leanne McAdoo.
unidentified
Not Joanne.
dan friesen
How dare I?
jordan holmes
Leanne McAdoo sounds like a made-up name.
dan friesen
Owen Schroyer.
These are people who I don't want to talk about.
Because I'm focusing on Alex.
jordan holmes
We're digging into Alex.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
We will develop an entire podcast network into the Alex Jones network.
dan friesen
There will be spinoffs.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
We just cover Owen Schroyer news.
jordan holmes
Right, right, right.
We're going to be so busy, we're going to hire different hosts to deal with this.
dan friesen
I'm going to have a kid.
And at age three, it's going to start on the Alex Jones' kid beat.
jordan holmes
That's a good idea.
Raise them up, soldiers.
That's what I say.
dan friesen
My three-year-old son will start covering Alex Jones' 13-year-old son, who is a correspondent for Infowars.
jordan holmes
Right.
Who is also equivalent in intelligence to a three-year-old.
dan friesen
Possibly.
I don't want to beat up on him.
He seems like a good kid.
jordan holmes
That's exactly what we're trying to avoid, is us just talking shit.
dan friesen
Especially on people who don't deserve it.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Like, we grew up in the church.
In various churches.
And we did things, I would say, in the name of those churches that we don't really look back on fondly now.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
I remember there was a see you at the flag.
It was like this celebration where before school, everyone would gather up and pray at the flag.
Pray for our horrible culture.
jordan holmes
Oh, I remember doing that!
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I forgot, because I blocked it out of my memory.
dan friesen
I apologize for bringing it back up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, I'm going to have to deal with that now.
dan friesen
But I would go around and try and proselytize to my friends, and I really regret that now.
And I feel similarly for this kid.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Like, Rex Jones, I don't know...
Like, if you believe the stuff that you're saying, God bless you, you're 13. Like, no one should believe what they will believe as an adult at 13. Yeah, and it's sad for me, a 29-year-old man, to be like, oh, it's about time somebody took this 13-year-old down a peg.
I also wonder if he's paying him.
Is he paying his son for these reports?
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
dan friesen
Anyway.
jordan holmes
Absolutely not.
And if he is, he's keeping it.
dan friesen
So that clip, I think, indicated this beautiful thing that Alex does where he wants to tell you badly.
That he was invited to have a meeting with Trump.
jordan holmes
He's having some meetings!
dan friesen
He really wants to tell you that.
jordan holmes
You need to know that, and if you're in the media who doesn't cover him, you can put two and two together if you covered him.
dan friesen
But then, that wasn't enough, so at the end of the clip he had to explain...
I don't need the president to pat me on the head.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely not.
dan friesen
So, he does this another time that I think is pretty amazing.
But this clip is actually a little bit longer and starts with...
What I can only describe as amazing fan fiction about political intrigue.
jordan holmes
I was hoping for Twilight, but let's move on.
dan friesen
Just change a couple names and insert a personal email server and you basically have Bella and Edward.
alex jones
For years, she would put data on there to then be painted her foundation at her Dropbox.
She didn't go to a local park and drop the stuff underneath a park bench like other spies have done.
She would load it up for everybody in the world to see.
And she would say where she stood on China or where she stood on this country or that and what she was going to do.
So they knew what she was about to do and had to give her more money.
Or she would put in policies that weren't one-sided for them.
dan friesen
Now, as far as I can tell, there's no evidence of this.
jordan holmes
I also feel like he doesn't know what Dropbox is.
How do spies work?
dan friesen
Do they go to the park?
jordan holmes
I feel like they go to park in movies, and then in real life they just go through garbage.
dan friesen
That's another leitmotif that will come up, not on this episode, but a lot of times he does use movies to explain the real world.
Like recently he did a breakdown of the new Alien movie that's coming out next year.
About how it depicts what the Illuminati really believes about the world.
jordan holmes
Well, if anybody already knows the plot to the new Alien movie coming out next year, it's got to be him.
dan friesen
He's got documents.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
It was in Hillary's Dropbox email account.
unidentified
It was.
dan friesen
Alright, back to the clip.
jordan holmes
She also had one-sided policies for the Aliens.
alex jones
Hillary created a digital Dropbox.
And by the way, that's been confirmed.
And that's the data that's going to come out if the Democrats keep pushing.
The Democrats are so crazy, they don't even care.
They're going to go for broke.
They made a deal with Trump on election night to admit he won and to back off.
jordan holmes
Perfect sense.
alex jones
And that then Trump would put out the word to the dogs in U.S. intelligence to stop releasing info, and they began double-crossing Trump the next morning and the American people.
And I told Trump, they're never going to stop coming after you.
I told him three days after the election.
I said, Mr. President-elect, they're never going to stop.
They're never going to follow the deal.
They're going to try to kill you.
Politically or physically.
They're not going to stop.
They can't stay.
I'm not going to say everything I said.
And I've said.
jordan holmes
How could he?
alex jones
Trump said.
But let me explain something to everybody.
This is deadly serious.
All of this is deadly serious.
dan friesen
Alright.
jordan holmes
That's the end of that clip?
dan friesen
It is.
jordan holmes
Alright.
So, let's tear this apart piece by piece.
dan friesen
Oh, and let me be clear.
Some of these clips may end up being a little bit long, because before we started recording, I wanted to explain to you that I don't want to play things wildly out of context.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I think that's an unfair game to play, and as the best I can, as best I can, I'm going to keep...
jordan holmes
As best I can!
dan friesen
I'm going to keep this...
jordan holmes
This is deadly serious!
dan friesen
Yeah.
So...
The point of that clip, I think, is that he talks to Trump.
Right?
I think that's kind of the point.
jordan holmes
Well, I think there's a few things that we get into there at the beginning, which is she's created a digital Dropbox.
dan friesen
Yes.
Which is proven.
jordan holmes
That is confirmed.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Just like...
I feel like everybody has a digital Dropbox.
dan friesen
I have a Dropbox, sure.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Also, you shouldn't need to say digital in front of Dropbox.
dan friesen
Also, Dropbox is a brand name.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's an app.
jordan holmes
It's Buzz Marketing.
unidentified
Oh, shit.
jordan holmes
He works for Dropbox.
dan friesen
Holy shit, new conspiracy.
jordan holmes
New conspiracy theory right there.
This is deadly serious.
unidentified
We should keep a running tally of new conspiracies.
Number one.
jordan holmes
Alex Jones works for Dropbox.
Right.
He is a secret agent for the Dropbox Corporation.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, so she created this Dropbox.
That's confirmed.
dan friesen
Where the Chinese could find out what she's going to do to them.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then pay her to not do it, I guess.
That's sort of the implication.
jordan holmes
I feel like I can't argue with that.
dan friesen
Well, how could you?
jordan holmes
Because that is so beyond the realm of possibility.
dan friesen
Now, why would you say that?
You seem like you're in denial.
jordan holmes
So, okay.
First off, China is not a guy.
dan friesen
Yeah, it is.
jordan holmes
It's not a guy.
dan friesen
He forms like Voltron.
jordan holmes
All of China.
dan friesen
One billion parts.
jordan holmes
I understand that he thinks of China as just one dude.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If you asked him to name the Politburo in China, do you think he could?
dan friesen
I don't even know if that's a person or a building.
jordan holmes
Well, it's a collective.
Like, the Politburo, it's from Russia.
It's the governing body.
It's an oligarchy, basically.
These are like, I don't know, you could call them the Illuminati, who sit around and talk about what it is they're going to do.
They are not...
One guy.
Do they act as one?
dan friesen
Unified in attack?
jordan holmes
I assume that they get together and, you know, like...
dan friesen
Conspire?
I hate to put words in your mouth.
unidentified
I just lost to Alex Jones.
dan friesen
I don't think you did.
We are on one episode and it's Alex Jones 1, me 0. I don't think you did lose because the fundamental point still remains that the idea that she created a digital Dropbox where people could find out stuff.
jordan holmes
See, that's how insidious he is.
We keep saying digital Dropbox.
dan friesen
Right, it's smart.
It's essentially creating a verbal hashtag.
Right.
And again, this comes back to why he's a good broadcaster.
These are the elements that you have to take apart to see, like, oh, this is what he's doing.
jordan holmes
And his cadence as well.
Every single thing that he went through there is easily capable of sticking in your mind.
dan friesen
Sure.
There's a hypnotic meter.
jordan holmes
I know.
I can't get digital Dropbox out of my head now.
If somebody asked me to, hey, could you just put that in my Dropbox?
I'd be like, wait, which Dropbox?
The digital one or the one that's underneath that park bench over there?
dan friesen
Well, this is a bad example of it, but it is an old-fashioned trick that oral tradition cultures would use.
In the same way that Alex, every time he talks about the Chinese, he calls them the communist Chinese.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
It's a trick called using an epithet.
And not necessarily like a negative epithet.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
But it's just using something to characterize a noun makes it stick in your memory more.
In the same way that they would always call Achilles rage-filled Achilles or brave Odysseus in the Iliad and the Odyssey.
It's a really good trick when you don't have paper to get people to remember things.
It's a mnemonic trick.
And he uses that so fucking well.
Digital Dropbox is probably not even intended to be like that.
But it still is.
unidentified
To the point where you're distracted from the point that there was a deal made.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
No, all I can think about is where is this digital dropbox?
dan friesen
Right.
The only way for this claim to be proven is for some information.
jordan holmes
Well, the digital dropbox is confirmed.
unidentified
Well, yes.
dan friesen
But it's been confirmed through unconfirmed channels or whatever, you know?
unidentified
Yeah!
jordan holmes
No, I feel like you can just find somebody who's like, oh yeah, I put something into that Dropbox.
unidentified
No, no, no, no.
dan friesen
Only she put things in.
Everyone else put money in accounts.
jordan holmes
Where?
You can't do it at a digital Dropbox.
dan friesen
Cayman Islands.
I don't know.
unidentified
I don't know.
dan friesen
The Foundation.
You make a donation to the Foundation.
unidentified
Ooh.
jordan holmes
That's some solid epithet right there.
The Donation Foundation.
dan friesen
That's just rhyming.
So, I mean, like, the only way for it to be proven that they, like, Hillary stepped down immediately because she was afraid of this information of the digital dropbox coming out that Trump had over her, and somehow Trump actually has all of the intelligence agencies in his sway and all this, the only way for that to ever come out is for the shit to go down.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, and it does, if you know anything about the intelligence agencies and the way they've been behaving...
They kind of are on Trump's side pretty solidly.
There's some strangeness.
The thing that confused me is that he's insisting that Hillary and the Democrats made a deal on election night.
He gives very few details, by which I mean none, about what that deal entails.
So, we know there's a deal.
We don't know what that deal is.
The next day, they are betraying him.
We don't know how they're betraying him because we don't know what their deal is.
I think we can guess why.
They're all globalists who are just hanging out with China.
dan friesen
It makes no sense to make that deal to begin with if you're going to flip on it the next morning.
jordan holmes
I think it makes perfect sense.
dan friesen
Oh, so he doesn't, in his speech, acceptance speech, doesn't lay out all this dirty laundry?
That would be wild.
At three in the morning?
jordan holmes
That would be the greatest.
That would be crazy.
If he came out in his acceptance speech with just...
And here's all the shit I have on Hillary now.
I was waiting to tell it to you guys until I got elected.
If only they had made a deal with me two hours ago, I wouldn't have said anything.
dan friesen
That fucking deal, windows closed.
jordan holmes
Hey, if they had betrayed me tomorrow, I would have been fine as long as this deal happened tonight.
Okay, so they betrayed him.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
And the Democrats...
Which, again, I feel like he's just using it as a guy.
dan friesen
Right.
Combo noun.
jordan holmes
It is a guy.
In his mind, it's a guy.
dan friesen
It's Schumer.
jordan holmes
All Democrats are a guy.
dan friesen
They're all Chuck Schumer.
jordan holmes
They're all Amy Schumer, actually.
dan friesen
Or Rahm.
jordan holmes
Or no, no.
dan friesen
Let's be fucking honest.
It's George Soros.
That's who he thinks all Democrats are.
jordan holmes
That is right.
dan friesen
That's who he thinks they all are.
In fact, that brings me to our next clip.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
That was the greatest segue in the history of podcasts.
dan friesen
Thank you very much.
This clip is actually part of what I would claim to be a very substantive narrative that has been going on forever on his show.
And it's something that I really take issue with because it's a good example of a time where he uses something and...
He references it and just lies about what it says.
So George Soros is essentially his big boogeyman.
He's his evil globalist madman.
So here's a little clip of Alex talking about George Soros on today's program.
alex jones
The minute they take down Netanyahu, they're going after Trump.
So, hey, all of you that wanted to live under globalist Islamic rule, all of you that hate Jews, You're about to get a big, juicy taste of the globalist win of what it's going to be like being under Saudi Arabia and Communist China, politically calling the shots to the Democrats, who've openly made deals to sell us out to them.
Oh, and then have weirdo Nazi collaborators like George Soros, who's Jewish, sitting over it.
So get your anti-Semitism straight there.
You've got this evil Dr. Evil over here running this whole takeover, who's Jewish, and they're about to get rid of the Jewish state.
So just enjoy yourselves.
He got a taste rounding up Jews in World War II.
It's just so delicious.
Little Soros.
He just can't stop.
And it's all in the WikiLeaks.
And you know what?
The Jews haven't done anything to stop him.
Hell, half the Jews are liberals.
Love George Soros.
So, hey, just have whatever you want, dumbasses.
jordan holmes
That was a barrage of people all together on the same side.
So let's parse.
unidentified
Wait, wait.
dan friesen
I want to say one thing before we parse.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
I think that this clip also contains one of my favorite fucking things in the world, which is everyone is always surprised by commercial breaks.
They are never fucking ready for a commercial break, but all of their commercials are just for their supplements.
It's all just for colloidal iodine, super male vitality.
It's all the in-house InfoWars pills, but they never could plan it out!
jordan holmes
I have no idea why those specific pills are the ones they're marketing.
Who could possibly be their target audience?
dan friesen
What's super awesome, too, is he often goes on Jags about how he turns down sponsors.
It's like, you don't.
unidentified
You fucking don't.
jordan holmes
Oh, I guarantee he does.
No, he doesn't!
He only advertises...
Products he uses.
Right.
Which he...
God, he needs that...
dan friesen
And formerly gold.
jordan holmes
Ultra male.
Formerly gold.
dan friesen
Well, he used to hawk gold real hard, but that was because he was on the GSN network.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
Which is the Genesis...
Oh, GCN, Genesis Communication Network.
jordan holmes
Did he leave them because they became the Genocide Communication Network?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I can't confirm or deny it.
jordan holmes
Under the palm of George Soros, coming for Netanyahu.
dan friesen
Just to be clear, GCN was owned by Gold Consortium.
I think he still is broadcast by them, but now they've shifted over to this weird health food stuff.
So he used to be hawking gold.
And now they sell all this weird, like, you know, all your body really needs is a couple of these minerals.
jordan holmes
Which totally is true.
dan friesen
Right.
It's all sold by this guy named Dr. Wallach, who's actually...
If you actually look into him...
jordan holmes
Dr. Wallach.
dan friesen
He's a veterinarian.
jordan holmes
Who knows better what will affect the human body than somebody who kills pets?
dan friesen
Than a dog doctor.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
He's like a new age doctor and veterinarian.
jordan holmes
Never would have guessed.
Never would have guessed.
dan friesen
If you look up the people who used to sell gold, their website now goes to his weird health food stuff.
I've already complained.
jordan holmes
I've screamed about him for like half an hour.
That has Dr. Spichemin from 30 Rock written all over it.
dan friesen
A hundred percent.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
So anyway, back to parsing.
jordan holmes
Right.
All right.
So my favorite thing that he said right there is George Soros got a taste.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan holmes
From World War II Nazi Germany.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
He got a taste of genocide camps?
dan friesen
Rounding up Jews is literally what he said.
jordan holmes
And he's a Jew!
dan friesen
Are you aware of where that comes from?
What he's referencing?
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
Okay, so he references this all the time.
And in the same way, when he talks about Nazi collaborator George Soros, it's the same thing.
It's another epithet.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
It sticks in your head easily.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
So back years ago, George Soros was interviewed on 60 Minutes.
And he was being interviewed by, what's this guy's name?
Croft.
I can't remember Croft's first name.
Who cares?
jordan holmes
I remember him from the Croft-Nixon interview.
unidentified
Yes.
dan friesen
Steve Croft is interviewing him.
I will read you the transcript of that interview because I don't want to play the audio.
Right.
I just don't want to pull up more shit that I don't have ready.
You're a Hungarian Jew.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
Who escaped the Holocaust.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
dan friesen
By posing as a Christian.
Right.
And you watch lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.
Right.
I was 14 years old, and I would say that that's when my character was made.
In what way?
That one should think ahead.
One should understand and anticipate events.
And when one is threatened, it was a tremendous threat of evil.
I mean, it was a very personal threat of evil.
My understanding is that you went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.
Soros.
Yes, that's right.
Yes.
I mean, that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to a psychiatric couch for many, many years.
Was it difficult?
No.
Not at all.
Not at all.
Maybe as a child you don't see the connection, but it was...
it created no problem at all.
No feeling of guilt?
No.
For example, that I'm Jewish and here I am watching these people go.
I could just as easily be these.
I should be here.
I should be there.
None of that?
And his response...
Well, of course.
I could be on the other side, or I could be one from whom the thing is being taken away.
But there was no sense that I shouldn't be there, because that was...
Well, actually, in a funny way, it's just like in the markets.
That is, if I weren't there, of course, I wasn't doing this, but somebody else would be taking it away anyhow.
And it was the whatever...
Whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator.
The property was being taken away, so I had no role in taking that property away.
So no sense of guilt.
jordan holmes
Okay, so this interview, Alex Jones has taken a survival story where it seems like Soros clearly dissociated from his own personal identity as a measure of survival.
He survives.
A harrowing...
dan friesen
His father hid him with a Christian gentleman who was responsible for when Jews were taken away.
They would catalog their belongings.
Okay.
unidentified
It was thieving or whatever.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
But you've got to imagine, if you're a 14-year-old kid, your primary concern is making sure no one finds out you're a Jew.
dan friesen
Right.
unidentified
Because you will be murdered.
jordan holmes
And also, where do you masturbate?
dan friesen
Sure.
unidentified
Or pee.
jordan holmes
Well, they're dicks.
So circumcision is the main selling point for Jews.
dan friesen
I don't know if I'd call it selling point.
jordan holmes
I shouldn't have said selling point.
I should have said catching point or something along those lines.
dan friesen
There was another quote that was about that time in his life.
It was actually probably the happiest year of my life, that year of German occupation.
For me, it was a very positive experience.
It's strange.
I think it says sage, but I think he meant strange.
It's a strange thing because you see incredible suffering around you and the fact that you're in considerable danger yourself.
But you're 14 years old and you don't believe that it can actually touch you.
You have a belief in yourself.
You have a belief in your father.
It's a very happy-making, exhilarating experience.
So people, Alex Jones in particular, takes these quotes to twist it to be like the happiest time in his life.
Was when he was helping Hitler round up Jews.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which is false on two counts.
And I don't believe that Alex doesn't know that.
jordan holmes
Okay.
unidentified
He's citing these things.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I...
My first reaction on hearing that is, that's some crazy shit.
And clearly he's rich enough to be honest.
Which, if he was not, like, imagine him as an actor saying that nonsense, he would be pilloried for weeks.
dan friesen
Undoubtedly.
jordan holmes
Right?
So he's rich enough to be like, hey, this was a hugely formative experience in my life.
It is one of the most tragic things that's ever happened.
And somehow, because of the strange circumstances that I was in, it wound up being a positive experience for me.
Okay.
Now, that clearly means that he was in cahoots with Hitler himself and is trying to destroy the Jewish state.
dan friesen
And because he was so happy then, he wants to recreate it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
unidentified
Well...
dan friesen
100%.
jordan holmes
I mean, I remember growing up, whenever I was being beaten regularly, it was an exhilarating experience.
dan friesen
Well, exhilarating is some weird definitions.
jordan holmes
No, it's an exhilarating experience, and I constantly try and recreate it.
Psychologically, that's unimpeachable logic.
dan friesen
But the traumas that we have in our lives, often, if you have undergone some analysis, some therapy, you don't necessarily think of them as horrible times in your life.
Bumps and bruises make you stronger.
There are tons of people who talk- As do Holocaust.
Well, I mean, you're not responsible often for the cards you're dealt.
jordan holmes
Whatever doesn't put you in an oven makes you stronger.
unidentified
Sure.
jordan holmes
That is the end of this podcast.
We made it through one episode.
dan friesen
If someone does an after show of our after show, they're going to take that clip now.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah.
Well, I still think that is a piece of advice.
You can take it or leave it.
dan friesen
So this really bothers me quite a bit because most of the- I'm not here to stand up for George Soros and say he's the best man in the world, but this idea of painting him as a Nazi collaborator is incredibly irresponsible.
And the fact that I'm 100% sure that Alex Jones has watched the clips from that doc, or has watched that interview, has seen these things, he knows what he was talking about.
The fact that he chooses to paint it as he was helping round up Jews means that he's spinning a false narrative for a reason.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And that bothers me a lot.
jordan holmes
Okay, so that puts us into lying territory versus deceiving territory.
dan friesen
Yes, propaganda territory.
jordan holmes
Right.
Now, the other part of this that I love about him, and you're absolutely right about him being a great broadcaster, at no point in his entire show, I'm imagining...
Does he ever actually get into why he would want this to happen?
dan friesen
Barely, if ever.
jordan holmes
Right.
So he leaves it to your own imagination to make these connections of, oh, well, clearly, if he survived the Holocaust, he also loved it.
Which is also a great movie title, Surviving the Holocaust and Loving It.
dan friesen
Dracula, Surviving the Holocaust and Loving It.
jordan holmes
Leslie Nielsen as a slapstick young George Soros, but still that same age.
dan friesen
He went too young, that Leslie Nielsen.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He can't play it that young.
He's a great actor, but...
dan friesen
I think he's dead.
jordan holmes
He is dead.
Yeah.
So, you know, he'd be even better at it now.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay, so...
Before we get...
Because we already got sidetracked.
He's a genius!
We already got sidetracked onto the nonsense he said instead of responding to the nonsense he said.
dan friesen
But you notice that on the way to the stuff talking about George Soros, there was like...
jordan holmes
Oh, there's 30 different mismatches.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
He was throwing it at the wall.
He's throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks.
dan friesen
The stuff that he was talking about B.B. Netanyahu was...
jordan holmes
Oh, he's the best.
dan friesen
Apparently, police questioned him over some corruption stuff that day on the 2nd.
I'm having difficult times finding independent corroboration of that being anything serious.
It's difficult to say, but it does feed into the narrative that they already have built up with the United States has turned their back on Israel with the sitting out of the UN vote.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and the $35 billion.
dan friesen
$38 billion.
jordan holmes
$38 billion.
dan friesen
In military aid.
My position on that is Israel is an incredibly complicated situation that I don't understand all the ins and outs of.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I do believe the Palestinians have rights.
How about that?
How does that grab you?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
George Soros agrees with that, and I feel like you're wrong there.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
George Soros is against rounding up...
unidentified
What?
jordan holmes
The thing that...
Before...
Now I'm pissed off!
dan friesen
Also...
jordan holmes
I just got hit with him saying that China and Saudi Arabia are on the same team!
dan friesen
Well, beyond that, also, globalists are Islamists.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah.
No, that we can skip over, because that's obvious.
As everybody knows, Islamists are all for global relations.
dan friesen
Well, part of this anti-globalist sort of narrative, one of the necessary pieces of it is that they have to create their own axis of evil.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And for them...
In order to make Russia okay.
jordan holmes
And it's super weird that they are calling themselves the axis of evil.
That's a big tip-off if the globalists are like, oh, we're totally evil.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah, we're super...
I'm an evil Dr. Evil.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
I believe that's how Alex Jones refers to Soros.
Again, I feel like he doesn't know Dr. Evil is fictional.
He's giving me the Dr. Evil doesn't know he's fictional vibe.
dan friesen
So he, like, the alliance there, in order to make Russia okay, Right.
China, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, and some other countries.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
But those are the ones that are the big problems, especially communist China.
Those are the people we have to be worried about just so Russia's cool.
Because Putin just wants prosperity.
jordan holmes
Well, absolutely.
And also Putin's country is turning into a shithole.
That he's rampantly doing everything he can to direct every possible attention away from the fact that Russia's economy is garbage right now.
dan friesen
In the toilet.
jordan holmes
Yeah, and it has been for like 10 years.
dan friesen
Alex Jones even brings that up, but he uses it as a deflection away from Russian tampering and hacking and stuff like that.
He's like, how can they do anything?
They have the GDP of Italy.
unidentified
Alright.
jordan holmes
That's a solid deflection.
dan friesen
Yeah, but also Putin probably has like $200 billion or something like that.
There's a lot of people hiding a lot of money.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine.
dan friesen
The fact that the GDP is that low doesn't mean that there aren't the resources.
Like, there's a lot of dark money.
jordan holmes
Like, I don't know, like some of that money that went to that Olympic stadium and the roads that were never actually built.
Somebody got all that money.
Communist China got all that money.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
That's what we know.
Communist China and Saudi Arabia conspired to steal Sochi Olympics?
dan friesen
I guess.
jordan holmes
What are we going with here?
dan friesen
I don't know.
This is a conspiracy we're not going to be able to flesh out.
jordan holmes
Communist China and Saudi Arabia.
Yes.
unidentified
That...
jordan holmes
Okay.
Did he plan to say that?
dan friesen
Probably not.
jordan holmes
Has he said that before?
Has he ever combined Communist China and Saudi Arabia?
dan friesen
Only as people he doesn't like.
Like, I don't...
I think that he Mad Libs'd that one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he had to have just...
I mean, even he, when he re-listened to that show, he was like, holy shit, that's crazy.
dan friesen
I think it was that the spirit got good to him.
And he was just like, all right, well, these words are coming out.
unidentified
Whatever.
jordan holmes
Lord, give me the Holy Spirit.
Tell me who I'm against.
dan friesen
Which is a perfect transition to this next clip.
jordan holmes
Excellent.
Our segues are dominant.
dan friesen
This might be one of my favorite clips.
I don't want to do any setup.
alex jones
Ladies and gentlemen, that's what I said last week.
I said, if they kill Netanyahu or something, you know World War III is about to happen.
Well, here it is.
And I told you they're really thinking about arresting Trump.
They're really thinking about Paul.
Remember all those rape charges and pedophile charges that were always fake names and were never true?
dan friesen
That's not entirely accurate.
alex jones
Paul got dropped as soon as he won?
Claiming Jerry Epstein connections to him when it was really to Clinton and Hillary?
dan friesen
And to both of them, really.
alex jones
See, everything they're doing, they say we're doing.
So now, this is Zero Hedge, Israeli police, Internet Yahoo's home, for questioning over corruption allegation.
Boy, you talk about canary in the coal mine.
The globalists wouldn't move against Netanyahu, as WikiLeaks shows they're planning to do via Soros, if they weren't planning to have people ready to imprison him or kill him if he starts trying to spill the beans on stuff.
Because Netanyahu's been involved in everything.
Good, bad, ugly, you name it.
And if they move against Netanyahu, that means they're moving against Trump.
Bet your bottom buck.
Woo!
unidentified
Nope, that's not it.
alex jones
Just red alert, red alert, red alert.
This is getting crazy.
This is so freaking out of control.
It's time to pray.
Lord, Heavenly Father, please help us open our eyes.
No!
jordan holmes
No!
alex jones
Please protect the children.
jordan holmes
Please protect the children!
dan friesen
How dare you get in the way of his prayer?
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
unidentified
I have to pull it back.
dan friesen
I have to go back now.
jordan holmes
I'm sorry.
dan friesen
This is on air.
jordan holmes
Start the prayer again.
dan friesen
When he does that, it sounds pray.
He immediately puts his hand over his face and acts like he's going to cry.
It's astounding.
alex jones
This is so freaking out of control.
It's time to pray.
Our Heavenly Father, please help us open our eyes.
Please help us be good.
We're so sorry for all the abortions and all the evil in our name.
Please protect the children.
Please reprieve us if it's in your will.
Please somehow stop the evil forces that are trying to stop this miracle that you've given us.
Please help there be peace in the Middle East.
Please stop those who are trying to overthrow Israel and start World War III and bring in Armageddon.
Please give us a reprieve like Nineveh so that we have time to wake people up.
Reach out to those that are still in darkness and deceived.
Please, in the name of your Son, Jesus Christ, lead God and direct us.
Amen.
And I don't do that for show, folks.
I don't even want to be here.
I am so upset right now that my head is burning.
I am sweating, even though it's like 65 degrees in here.
I am so pissed.
dan friesen
Well, he might be sweating in 65 degree temperatures because he's taking too much goddamn super male vitality.
It's entirely possible or that he's coked out.
I have no idea, but...
jordan holmes
The first thing you say after publicly praying is, I don't do that for show.
alex jones
Right.
jordan holmes
On your literal show.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
You're doing that for show.
dan friesen
You're 100% doing it for show.
jordan holmes
But...
I would listen to any techno remix of...
unidentified
It's time to pray.
jordan holmes
It's time to pray.
dan friesen
What a showman.
jordan holmes
God, that's so good.
dan friesen
I want to be super clear about this, too.
I don't mean to beat up on religion.
I don't want to mock someone just for being religious.
Religion is a great thing when used right.
It does bring a lot of meaning to a lot of people's lives, and hooray.
But I do take great issue with the idea that it's being used to basically...
For sure.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, I mean, just the fact that you responded that way means it's time to pray.
unidentified
Dear God.
jordan holmes
Dear God, I just want to...
dan friesen
I'm so sorry about abortions.
jordan holmes
Why did he start with abortions?
Where did that come from?
This is a stream of consciousness rant.
unidentified
Okay, let's start at the beginning.
jordan holmes
Why is Netanyahu the canary in the coal mine?
dan friesen
Because once they come for Israel, that means Trump's next.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but why would you go for Israel first?
dan friesen
There's an internal logic to it that's never explained.
jordan holmes
But, okay, so you're coming for Netanyahu.
dan friesen
Because he's got all the dirt.
He knows the good and bad things that everyone's done, so you gotta take him out first so he can't spill the beans.
jordan holmes
So, again, the good, the bad, the ugly, he's got all of it.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Where, why, and how did he get any of it?
dan friesen
He's been around the game forever, so he has all of it.
jordan holmes
But that's not a thing that you can't just say, I've been around the game so I know the secrets of every nation on the planet.
dan friesen
Yeah, but you can.
If no one calls you on it.
jordan holmes
That's a good point.
Here is the fundamental disconnect, is that I feel like before I say something, I should have at least the barest understanding of why that thing is occurring.
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
So like when you make a public claim.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And even if it's dumb and relatively uninformed, I've got a reason for thinking it.
dan friesen
Even if you're saying it as a joke.
jordan holmes
Right, right.
Yeah, even then, well, before we go any further, it's time to break.
dan friesen
Already two awesome sound drops.
jordan holmes
Never not going to be funny.
dan friesen
I love you.
jordan holmes
I love you.
dan friesen
It's time to break.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
That song is amazing.
dan friesen
What I was watching...
This...
unidentified
I lost my shit at work at that moment.
dan friesen
Like, I was just like...
Like, if I were writing a character, I couldn't come up with something funnier than yelling about how World War III is coming, taking a long pause.
jordan holmes
It's time to pray.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
Alright.
unidentified
Let me ask you, before we go any further...
Ending it with defending praying.
Right.
Amazing.
jordan holmes
No, no, no.
Not defending praying.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Saying that it is not for show.
Oh, by the way, this is a 100% genuine need to pray moment.
dan friesen
By the way, that's sincere, folks.
jordan holmes
Have you ever...
Also, that's a super professional wrestling move.
Oh, yeah.
You can see somebody walking into the ring and being like, hey, before we wrestle, it's time to pray.
dan friesen
No, no, no, no.
It would have to be like...
Now, The Undertaker's been trying to get me for years now.
There's a cabal.
He's got an evil group.
Maybe we call them the Ministry of Darkness.
And they're gonna come get me.
We're talking about Viscera.
We're talking about the big boss man.
Once you get Viscera out, that's the canary in the coal mine.
And Undertaker's coming for me.
It's time to pray.
jordan holmes
It's time to pray.
unidentified
Because you've got to say all the negative stuff first.
jordan holmes
I am going to hear that 10 million times before I go to sleep tonight.
In my brain, it's now in a loop.
dan friesen
I'll send you an isolated clip.
jordan holmes
Oh, God.
Any time I am in a bad move, I will just pull that up on my phone and be like, Oh, no, no, no.
Life is good.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Okay.
So here we go.
They're coming for Netanyahu first, and if they get to Netanyahu first...
That's not going to be enough to destabilize everything?
unidentified
No.
jordan holmes
You've got to then go after Trump.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Why are those two connected?
Or how are those two connected?
dan friesen
I feel like it's so implied.
I don't know why you're such a libertard.
jordan holmes
Have they ever met?
dan friesen
Yeah, of course.
jordan holmes
When?
unidentified
Of course!
jordan holmes
Okay, so they've never met.
Has Trump ever stated before any positive feelings towards Israel?
dan friesen
I think he's tweeted a bunch.
He spoke at APEC.
Yeah, yeah.
He's come out in favor of Israel.
jordan holmes
But we're all in favor of Israel.
dan friesen
He's also said some negative things about Obama's handling of backing away from Israel in the UN vote.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
I believe, what was his tweet?
Like, hey, hold tight.
Everything's going to be different after the 20th.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which was...
Both in reference to Russia and to Israel.
jordan holmes
Which is, it is nice that they have the luxury of being like, hey, we can weather the next 20 days because eventually we've got Trump who's just going to do...
Whatever it is we say, basically?
dan friesen
Sure.
He's a weird, undefined variable that'll do whatever we want.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan holmes
But then, here's the thing that drives me insane.
dan friesen
Your prediction was right.
This show is going to be two hours long.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Does anybody ever war games this?
dan friesen
What do you mean by that?
jordan holmes
I mean, okay.
So they kill Netanyahu.
dan friesen
So you're asking, do we ever AB this thing?
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
What happens next?
jordan holmes
Kill Netanyahu.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
Then what happens?
unidentified
No, no, no.
dan friesen
Not necessarily that.
You could just Shanghai him somewhere.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
You could just rendition his ass.
jordan holmes
Well, you could, I don't know, arrest him on corruption charges that you trumped up.
dan friesen
Right.
But then at the same time, if the whole thing is that he's got tons of dirt, you would have to kill him, right?
I mean, based on what he's saying, in order for the narrative Alex Jones is spinning.
jordan holmes
Unless he kept that dirt in a digital Dropbox.
dan friesen
Could be.
jordan holmes
Then you can find it.
dan friesen
Or take out his neck.
Like, don't kill him, but make it so he can't talk.
jordan holmes
Okay, I can see that.
Like Roadhouse.
They're gonna rip his throat out.
dan friesen
And then that'll be a message to anyone else who wants to talk.
You know what I'm saying?
jordan holmes
Right.
I mean, unless he has access to a computer.
dan friesen
Or paper.
jordan holmes
Yeah, or a typewriter.
unidentified
That's a good point.
dan friesen
There's a lot of possibilities.
jordan holmes
So you gotta cut off his hands and feet.
Because you can learn how to write with your feet.
dan friesen
And they're in league with the Saudi Arabians who are notorious for cutting off hands.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Or at least they were in the movie Aladdin.
jordan holmes
Right.
But...
You also then have to remove his eyes, because some people can text to type with their eyes.
dan friesen
Oh, that guy wrote that whole book with his eyes.
jordan holmes
Right, exactly.
So you gotta remove those.
dan friesen
Yeah, shit.
jordan holmes
Now, unfortunately...
dan friesen
What about toes?
jordan holmes
We're also...
We've already removed his feet.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I've already established that we're removing his feet.
dan friesen
I missed that thinking about the man from Alibaba.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
The Latin...
jordan holmes
Prince Ali!
dan friesen
Alibaba!
jordan holmes
So, which...
Why did they misprint?
They...
Okay, alright.
Let's get rid of the whole Alex Jones angle and go directly into this podcast is about the movie Aladdin.
Alright, alright.
But then we also have the technology now where we can read brain scans and turn that into type.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Still, it's in infancy stages, but I'm assuming, if you know everything about everybody, you got an end.
dan friesen
We're coming full circle now.
jordan holmes
He's been there for the good, the bad, and the ugly.
dan friesen
It's got to be murder, then.
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's got to be murder.
dan friesen
Okay, so then your war game scenario, you've got to murder Phoebe.
jordan holmes
So you murder Netanyahu.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
And then Israel is...
dan friesen
What?
jordan holmes
Yeah.
And so, but even then, if they murder Netanyahu...
dan friesen
Who's the next leader waiting in the wings?
It's not someone who has any different philosophies.
jordan holmes
Right, and let me ask you a question.
Is that our job, or is it Alex Jones' job to know who the next person in line is?
dan friesen
It's certainly not mine.
jordan holmes
It's certainly not mine.
dan friesen
I'm not making any claims.
jordan holmes
Frankly, I don't know many of my aldermen.
Let's put it that way.
I know almost none of them.
dan friesen
I've recently found out who my representatives are because I've felt the need to call them.
jordan holmes
I think that's a good idea.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
If there's one thing that we can learn, it's don't call Alex Jones.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Call your state representative.
dan friesen
But if you do call Alex Jones and you tell him you love him...
I love you.
I love you.
I wish that the caller had been like, I know you do.
That would have been gorgeous.
jordan holmes
He pulls the whole Empire Strikes Back move?
dan friesen
Yeah, so there are people calling in.
You mentioned that.
So you might be asking yourself about this time, who listens?
To the Alex Jones show.
jordan holmes
People who need virility pills.
dan friesen
Certainly.
If you want a discount on boner pills.
I think it's boner pills, right?
jordan holmes
Yeah, it's boner.
unidentified
Super male vitality.
jordan holmes
Virility or vitality is boner pills.
dan friesen
He talks about how like...
Get your libido going.
It's got to be...
I don't know if it is, but I think it might be boner pills.
jordan holmes
It has to be.
Or it might just be like a shit ton of testosterone.
dan friesen
I've done some research on Quantcast and Alexa.
jordan holmes
Don't know what that is.
dan friesen
There are two websites that are basically...
They keep statistics on websites for advertising purposes.
unidentified
Okay.
dan friesen
So if you want to sell ads, you can...
Quote your Quantcast rating and stuff like that.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I've done some research on what kind of traffic his website actually gets, and it's substantially lower than he says.
jordan holmes
I can't imagine how that would occur.
There are, like, he generally has- Are you saying he exaggerates or perhaps outright lies about something?
dan friesen
Yeah.
If you go, he has, like, 200,000 to 300,000 hits a day, unique hits on his website, which is still great.
jordan holmes
That is pretty good.
dan friesen
That's a lot.
unidentified
Yeah.
dan friesen
But then whenever, like, a cop is killed, it goes up to about a million.
jordan holmes
Of course.
dan friesen
Because, you know, you're getting all that viral content out there.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
You're reeling in the racists with the thug cop-killer narratives, and that drives a lot of traffic.
It is, yeah.
You can see spikes in his traffic whenever.
And like, oh, let's Google that date, see what happened.
Oh, boom.
Okay.
That was when Dallas happened.
Shit like that.
jordan holmes
Which was also a false flag operation initiated by Hillary Clinton and the globalists.
dan friesen
Absolutely.
jordan holmes
She put that into her digital Dropbox.
WikiLeaks found it.
They all know that the plot to kill Netanyahu is orchestrated by communist China and Islamist Saudi Arabia working in concert to put this all together.
And who is behind both of those?
dan friesen
Soros.
jordan holmes
Soros!
dan friesen
The Nazi-loving Jew.
jordan holmes
Now, actually, I think this podcast just ended because I nailed it.
dan friesen
Also, Soros is claimed to be funded.
I mean, he does donate to Black Lives Matter.
He does support that group, but they act like because he gives money to help that cause, that they're his goon squad, kind of.
It's insane and very racist, but anyway.
jordan holmes
I buy it.
dan friesen
You're asking yourself this question, who's listening?
And Alex has a couple answers for you.
jordan holmes
Okay.
dan friesen
For our next clip, who is listening?
Who's listening to this show?
alex jones
Doesn't Hillary know when she attacks me?
And when they say I'm all these bad things and lie about me?
And have all their paid shills put out all this info?
Don't they know?
jordan holmes
He was so close to guessing a name.
He was so close to just making up any name for paid chills.
dan friesen
Oh, like an organization?
jordan holmes
He's like, they're paid chills and then pauses and be like, oh no, it left me.
I can't say Saudi Arabia again.
dan friesen
He could have just as easily said, correct the record.
Oh, absolutely.
I mean, that was something that was proven.
jordan holmes
Absolutely.
dan friesen
But he could have thrown that out there.
It would have been easy.
Throw media matters under the bus if you want.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but, you know, he's had a long day.
Okay, I will give him that.
dan friesen
I think those two things are also too related to Pizzagate now, and I don't think he wants to touch that one.
jordan holmes
Yeah, was that his fault indirectly?
Did he start the whole Pizzagate thing, or was it a random tweet that he turned into the echo chamber?
dan friesen
I think that after that guy showed up at that pizza place with a gun, it was a hot potato.
And he had to drop it.
They had to clean the website of all the mentions of it.
jordan holmes
They got rid of all of it.
dan friesen
Well, not all of it, but all of their main reporting on it.
All the stuff where he was talking about it being something that needs to be investigated and citizen investigators should do something about it.
jordan holmes
Shit like that.
dan friesen
Shit like that.
jordan holmes
He said the things that happened and then he was like, ooh, I wish they hadn't happened.
dan friesen
And the guy, Joe Biggs.
Was a guy who used to work for him, and he got fired around the same time, and he was on the Pizzagate beat.
So there's a little bit of suspiciousness.
They've both put out videos talking about how, like, no, I didn't get fired.
I'm going on to bigger and better things.
I got movies I'm writing.
We'll see.
Maybe that's the case.
unidentified
I don't know.
jordan holmes
That is classic.
I got fired from the TV show.
You know, it was time for me to move on.
I feel like my future is in feature films.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I've already had a couple of meetings.
I won't tell you who they're with.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
But, you know, and frankly, it's really just about me.
I've made all of my money.
dan friesen
It rhymes with Barbie Barnstein.
jordan holmes
I don't even care if I meet with George Soros about producing these films.
dan friesen
The thing that made it stink to high heaven was Alex put out a video where he was talking about how talented Joe Biggs was and stuff like that.
Dude, like you're just, you're the canary in the coal mine now.
Now you're saying this, I know it's not true.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
He has dirt on you.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
I love you.
dan friesen
It's time to pray.
Let's watch the rest of this clip.
Here we go.
alex jones
And I don't even mean the general public.
The general public's important and they're somewhat awake now.
But the people that do the hanging, the military, the police, the bureaucrats, the judges, the lawyers, the congresspeople, they all listen.
The Russian government listens.
The British government listens.
The Israeli government listens.
The Pakistani government listens.
The Japanese government listens.
The Communist Chinese listen.
And I hate my guts.
Because they know, folks, this is the real place.
I don't want to differentiate myself and say, this is the only place you really get information of this magnitude.
It's the only place you get it this strong, this focused, this dedicated, this continual.
We don't take breaks around here.
I don't.
dan friesen
I would like to point out, after him saying he doesn't take breaks, he had someone else host the fourth hour of the show.
And he pretty routinely has people host the fourth hour of the show.
jordan holmes
Well, and he also doesn't want to say that, you know, he's putting himself as the only voice, but, you know.
dan friesen
But I'm the only voice.
jordan holmes
He's the only voice.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I don't want to say it.
I'll let other people say it for me, specifically the Pakistani government.
dan friesen
That's an amazing level of narcissism.
jordan holmes
Question!
Does he know anyone in the Pakistani government?
dan friesen
Maybe.
One guy?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
Does he know the capital of Pakistan?
alex jones
Khartoum?
dan friesen
I don't know.
Is that right?
jordan holmes
I have no idea.
I don't know the capital of Pakistan.
dan friesen
That's a capital of something.
jordan holmes
I thought you said Khartoum and we're back on Aladdin.
dan friesen
So there's that.
jordan holmes
I'm pretty sure he's from Pakistan.
dan friesen
That might be race-ish.
It's not racist.
jordan holmes
It's not racist.
dan friesen
It's getting there.
I took a geography class in high school, and I know four country capitals still.
And that's it.
I don't know Pakistan's.
I don't remember.
Because it's not fun to say.
Burkina Faso's capital?
Ouagadougou.
jordan holmes
That's pretty fun to say.
dan friesen
So fun.
jordan holmes
That is fun to say.
dan friesen
Madagascar?
Antananarivo.
jordan holmes
Oh, yeah!
I know Antananarivo.
It features heavily in the Civilization games.
dan friesen
Honduras?
To Gulja Galpa.
jordan holmes
Really?
dan friesen
I might be out.
jordan holmes
That is good.
dan friesen
That's my high school.
jordan holmes
So none of the big ones?
None of...
dan friesen
Like what?
I know Brazil is Brasilia, right?
jordan holmes
Don't know.
dan friesen
Okay.
jordan holmes
I mean, like, European nations...
dan friesen
Like which ones?
jordan holmes
I mean, pick...
dan friesen
Name one.
jordan holmes
France?
dan friesen
That's Paris.
You're rolling your eyes, you have no idea.
unidentified
Is that the capital?
Is that the capital?
jordan holmes
I don't know.
I feel like it's the same way where people are like...
dan friesen
What do you think the capital is Leon?
unidentified
The capital of California is L.A. No, it's Sacramento.
dan friesen
We all know that.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
Well, we don't all know that.
dan friesen
Some of us do.
jordan holmes
Some of us do.
dan friesen
You know who doesn't want you to know that?
The globalists.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
So actually, Alex has...
jordan holmes
Or Saudi Arabia?
Or the Pakistani government?
Definitely not the communist Chinese.
Before we do anything, can we go back to the list?
Just isolate the list.
dan friesen
Let's see if I can find it.
jordan holmes
Because the next time we record, I'm going to have to take notes.
alex jones
Does Hillary know when she attacks me?
dan friesen
Oh, do you want me to play it, or are you...
jordan holmes
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Isolate just the clip of him listing whose people...
alex jones
The police, the bureaucrats, the judges...
jordan holmes
No, hold up.
Before that, go back one second.
alex jones
They all listen.
dan friesen
The people who do the hanging.
jordan holmes
The people who do the hanging.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
What is that...
What does that mean?
dan friesen
I think it means people who are hanging out.
I hope.
unidentified
I fucking hope.
jordan holmes
That can't mean the people who do the hanging.
dan friesen
Like, I think he's talking about stringing people up.
jordan holmes
Yeah, he very nearly said lynching.
dan friesen
Yeah.
No, no, no, no.
Let's not...
jordan holmes
Well, that would be racially charged.
dan friesen
I want to defend Alex when it's appropriate, and that's not fair of you.
He wasn't going to say lynching.
unidentified
No, you're right.
jordan holmes
He wasn't going to it, but...
I was pulling that...
dan friesen
That would be ascribing racism in a situation where he's just being wacky.
jordan holmes
You're absolutely right.
dan friesen
And he is wrong.
jordan holmes
Yes.
unidentified
But also, the people who do the hanging still makes no sense.
jordan holmes
The people who do the hanging are the military, the police...
dan friesen
Uh-huh.
jordan holmes
So he starts with those as the people who do the hanging.
dan friesen
The judges, the bureaucrats.
jordan holmes
The lawyers.
dan friesen
But I think he has to mean that.
jordan holmes
The government, the Pakistani government, the communist Chinese who hate him.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
I like how he singled them out for hating him.
dan friesen
But they listen.
jordan holmes
Like, the Pakistani government is like, eh, we like that guy.
dan friesen
Also, the implication seems to me to be that, like, all 10,000 people who work in government listen to him.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
No fucking way they get any work done if they're listening four hours a day to his pill ads.
jordan holmes
They have to.
They have to listen to him because he's the only place.
He doesn't want to say it.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But he is the only place that gives it to you this focused.
Which is my favorite thing he said, this focused.
dan friesen
Yeah, he's not focused at all.
jordan holmes
As he's just rambling on about all the governments that he knows were in that list.
dan friesen
If we keep doing this, I will make a supercut of all the times he says, I've got to get to this story, and then not get to it.
Because it happens ten times a day, at least.
jordan holmes
But see, again, that's another brilliant move.
It builds you up.
It does the same thing that local news always does, where it's like, this story's about kittens.
Stay tuned.
Are your children dying?
You know, like that kind of a thing.
dan friesen
Yeah, there's a comedian named Ron Ramey who would do a similar trick rhetorically on stage.
He would do like a, I gotta go.
Like this sort of thing that teased like, he's gonna be leaving any minute now.
So we gotta pay attention to this guy before he goes.
It's the same thing.
jordan holmes
In the first five minutes of a 45 minute.
dan friesen
Yeah, and then by the time you caught on to it, you liked the trick.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So it becomes like, he's not going to leave, but we like this.
It's the same thing.
jordan holmes
It's a call and response.
dan friesen
I've got so much to get to.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I've got this big story here.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And you never get to it.
You just have more fucking pill ads.
But listen, Jordan, I feel like you don't believe that these people listen to his show.
And for your bitch ass, Alex has some more words.
jordan holmes
I am suspicious, but let's see where we go.
alex jones
Well said.
You know, there's a new Washington Post article by their editors saying, Trump reading Infowars can tank markets.
Start wars, basically.
We can put that headline back up.
They're getting ready to tank the markets.
They're raising interest rates to tank the markets.
They're getting ready to knock out the power grid.
They're going to blame Trump.
They're going to blame the Russians.
Everything they do, everything they blame us of is what they're really planning.
In Washington Post's editor, Trump reading Infowars.
dan friesen
I want to take a break really quick to point this out.
He says that all the fucking time.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Which leads me to believe that the inverse is true.
Well, yeah.
Whatever they say we're doing is what they're doing.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
When it's like, it kind of feels like that applies to you.
jordan holmes
I rubber your glue.
dan friesen
Yeah.
It reminds me of when my brother would do something when we were kids and then accuse me of doing it to our parents.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
It reminds me of very adolescent bullying techniques.
He brings this up over and over and over and over again.
This, like, idea that the globalists accuse him of the things they're doing.
It's insane.
Whatever.
Anyway, so Trump reads InfoWars.
jordan holmes
Trump reads InfoWars.
Two tank markets.
alex jones
And tank markets invite incursions.
Why do you think Trump reads InfoWars?
Let me just go ahead and tell the mainstream media, because they don't seem to figure it out.
It's not just Flynn that listens and reads InfoWars.
It's all of them dummies.
I'm not bragging.
And by the way, the generals don't learn anything from me.
There's only a couple websites like WorldNetDaily, DrudgeReport.com, Breitbart, Infowars, that they can go read that they know are real.
You understand that, dumbass?
Excuse me.
I'm sorry.
God, I apologize.
I'm not trying to be like that.
I'm so angry, folks.
I don't have my normal filters, okay?
And I start thinking about the New World Order, and I get really angry.
The generals all listen, stupid.
The foreign governments listen, stupid.
Because they know we know what we're talking about.
We're dead on.
I don't say that from some ego perspective.
I wish I was wrong.
dan friesen
He also says that a lot.
I wish I was wrong.
jordan holmes
He would never say it from an ego perspective.
unidentified
No.
dan friesen
He's not doing this for a show.
jordan holmes
Uh-uh.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
I wish I was wrong is almost like a hook on his rap song.
I wish I was wrong.
And then, I mean, if you want to, guys, if you're listening...
jordan holmes
Nate Dogg came to life to sing the hook on that.
dan friesen
I wish I was wrong.
Go to YouTube and just search Alex Jones failed predictions and there's wonderful compilations of like a hundred times he's been so fucking wrong about everything.
jordan holmes
Then his wish come true!
dan friesen
We should all be so lucky.
jordan holmes
Right?
His wishes are...
unidentified
He's...
dan friesen
Also, everyone, if you hear my voice, I don't want to play it on this show.
Although maybe one time we should do it for a special episode.
Okay.
Do yourselves a favor and go fucking listen to the Y2K episode of Alex Jones' show.
It's on YouTube.
jordan holmes
There was a Y2...
He's been doing this for how long?
dan friesen
Like 25 years.
jordan holmes
Holy goddamn shit.
dan friesen
Yeah, so on December 31st, 1999, he...
He was creating a panic and trying to get people to riot, essentially.
jordan holmes
Wow!
dan friesen
Yeah, he was feeding into a lot of, like, real horrible paranoia.
And what's interesting now, he talks about how, like, Russia is, you know, sort of good guys.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
And he's on board with Russia.
jordan holmes
As we all know they are.
dan friesen
In his Y2K broadcast, he's talking about how Putin, this guy Putin the Ruthless is evil.
He's talking all this shit on this guy who, you know, flash forward 17 years.
jordan holmes
17 years is a long time, number one.
Now, number two, here is my favorite thing about the Russian paranoia right now.
Because that is, like, the flip on that was so fast.
What do you mean by that?
Well, I mean, the right wing was crazy.
Like, the moment the Cold War ended, they wanted to start a new Cold War.
Uh-huh.
So now, because of the whole Trump thing.
Now, Democrats are all on this, oh, Russia tampered with the election, and they probably did in some fashion.
dan friesen
Sure.
jordan holmes
Whether or not it was a direct thing or an indirect thing.
The one problem I have with it all is that, just like he says, we've done all the same shit, man.
America's done...
All of that.
dan friesen
We've done worse, probably.
We've deposed governments.
jordan holmes
We've deposed many governments.
dan friesen
Unjustified wars, but we...
jordan holmes
There's a reason the term Banana Republic was not invented by the wonderful clothing store.
Sponsor us.
It is because we overthrew a few governments for, you know...
Art corporations to sell bananas.
dan friesen
For Chiquita.
jordan holmes
Yeah, exactly.
Or Dole.
So I get where they're coming from, and it's always worse when it happens to you, but it's such a hugely hypocritical concept.
dan friesen
Well, the difference is, I think you and I would be fair about that, is that we recognize that the government has done very horrible things, but I also, I would take the side that it is worse that it's happening to us.
Because if we're gone...
Or if we're in some weird flux state, it does destabilize things a great deal.
jordan holmes
Right, absolutely.
dan friesen
Now, I don't think that it, you know, given the entire stretch of history and how long the world is, essentially, the time of the world is.
jordan holmes
Well, 6,000 years.
And if you don't believe that, it's time to pray.
dan friesen
We will have to go down at some point.
I mean, it's natural.
Kingdoms come and go, as it were.
jordan holmes
Yeah, well, and we're clearly tearing ourselves down as we speak.
dan friesen
Sure.
I mean, what is it?
The average lifespan of every sort of kingdom or big colonial power is about 200 years, and then it starts to fall apart, basically?
Isn't that the sort of guideline?
jordan holmes
You know, I...
I couldn't say because, you know, the big histories are written about people who lasted, you know, a thousand years or whatever it is.
dan friesen
But even those ones have discrete periods within them.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
Like, if you want to go through the history of Chinese government, that is one of the most fascinating, you know.
dan friesen
The three kingdoms period.
jordan holmes
Yeah, the different dynasties, the Zhou, the Qin, like, that's all good stuff.
dan friesen
Which we don't respect at all as history because it's so weird and different to us.
jordan holmes
No, I don't like it.
Because it's interesting, but it's not about us.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
You know?
dan friesen
Right.
But because they're the communist Chinese.
jordan holmes
Also, if you were to learn anything about history, you would then have to apply it to now.
And that would mean changing a lot of the ways you think about stuff.
dan friesen
It also requires you to load in a bit of empathy.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I'm way against that.
dan friesen
That's troubling to some.
jordan holmes
Well, see, because if you're empathetic, you know, then what they're doing is everything that you're doing.
dan friesen
Yeah.
I would say that no matter what, I still don't want us to go down right now because it would be very unpleasant for me.
jordan holmes
Yeah, I mean, that is...
dan friesen
If it has to happen, let it happen after I'm dead.
I'm not going to have any kids.
jordan holmes
I do think there is a part of mortality where it is like...
You know, if I have to die, I feel like everybody should go with me, right?
dan friesen
Well, sure.
I mean, I remember when I used to smoke a lot of weed, me and a couple friends would sit around, and one of the things we always were super fascinated by is the idea of being able to see the end.
Like, what a privilege that would be to be one of the humans who gets to see it all end.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
Yeah, that would be cool.
dan friesen
There's something to be said for that, but I still don't want it.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I'd rather...
Live.
unidentified
Or rather it happened when I'm like 90. Right, right, right.
jordan holmes
It would be good to already be dying and then everything else starts dying too.
That would be pretty fun.
dan friesen
Yeah, that would be boss.
Yeah.
Okay, so here's another narrative piece back to, in the same vein as the George Soros thing.
jordan holmes
Now, hold up one second.
dan friesen
Sorry.
jordan holmes
Before we go any further.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
Here is why Trump reads Infowars was never answered.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
He brought up, here's why Trump did this, then immediately switched over to Flynn.
I am so mad!
Are you supposed to answer why?
unidentified
And I want to know!
dan friesen
You know why?
Because, again, the spirit got too good to him.
It's this thing that gets in him.
The boogie-woogie bandit comes in and takes over.
jordan holmes
But I would have accepted literally any explanation.
unidentified
He can't fucking explain why Trump listens because it's too important to let you know that everyone listens, dummy.
Dummy, you dumb, dumb person.
jordan holmes
But he could have made up anything, and because it's Trump, I probably would have been, at the very least, entertained that notion.
dan friesen
Sure.
Should be like, hey, you know why he listens?
We gave him a free password.
jordan holmes
Yeah, or not even that, just like, do you know why he listens?
Because everybody's got to read something on the toilet every day.
Like, I don't know!
dan friesen
That would be a real disappointing reveal.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's true.
He would never reveal that.
dan friesen
He did say, you know, I'm going to tell you why he listens, and the mainstream media can't figure this out, so you do expect it's going to be something big.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
I guess the answer is that he listens because everyone important listens.
jordan holmes
Everyone important listens.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But that's not a why.
Unless you're saying it's like a peer pressure thing.
dan friesen
Well, no, no, no, no.
I think you're being unfair.
jordan holmes
Even then, Trump doesn't even go to intelligence briefings.
dan friesen
Nope, because he gets all he needs.
jordan holmes
And since they obviously listen to InfoWars.
dan friesen
Everyone does.
jordan holmes
Wouldn't they be briefing him on InfoWars every day?
dan friesen
So far, the only person I have evidence doesn't listen to InfoWars?
unidentified
You.
jordan holmes
From a very forensic standpoint, I guess you're correct there.
dan friesen
And my cat.
jordan holmes
I guess you're correct.
dan friesen
I try and keep it away from her.
She doesn't need this.
jordan holmes
That's good.
It's really stressful.
dan friesen
I think you're being slightly unfair.
Just a tiny bit.
Not very unfair, but I think you're being a tiny bit unfair because there is an implied answer in there.
And that is that Zero Hedge, Breitbart...
Drudge and Alex Jones are the only people who give actual news.
jordan holmes
Okay, so that's why Trump listens to Infowars.
dan friesen
Yes.
jordan holmes
Because he needs the actual news.
dan friesen
That's the implied answer to that question, which he doesn't really spell out, but he kind of does.
That's another narrative that's going on.
I was going to go to this other one about...
I'm just going to cut this from what we need to cover because I don't even need to play the audio.
He just basically says that recess appointment, like it's about Merrick Garland being put into the Supreme Court as a recess appointment.
jordan holmes
Rich, we can only goddamn hope.
dan friesen
I mean, I think so.
Or at least have a fair shot.
I would rather it go and be debated and what have you.
But Alex's point is that it's now we're fucking talking about it so I might as well play the clip.
Right.
Because I don't want to act like I'm putting words in his mouth.
unidentified
Right.
jordan holmes
Gotcha.
alex jones
Now, this just broke.
It's up on Infowars.com.
It's up on DrudgeReport.com.
Obama still could force Merrick Garland onto the court during intercession recess.
So, no president's ever done stuff like this, but they're talking about with 17 days left trying to force a new individual onto the Supreme Court.
jordan holmes
Definitely not true.
dan friesen
100%.
George Washington made a recess appointment.
jordan holmes
I don't remember that.
That was clearly before the Constitution was written.
dan friesen
Presidents since George Washington have made recess appointments.
Washington appointed South Carolina Judge John Rutledge as Chief Justice of the United States during the Congressional Recess in 1795.
Hmm.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he was still in the infancy.
He was making some mistakes.
dan friesen
Because of Rutledge's political views and occasional mental illness, however, the Senate rejected his nomination and Rutledge attempted suicide and resigned.
jordan holmes
Oh, I love American history so much!
dan friesen
Beyond that, New Jersey Judge William J. Brennan was appointed to the Supreme Court by President Dwight D. Eisenhower in 1956 by a recess appointment.
jordan holmes
Never heard of him.
I mean Eisenhower.
dan friesen
George H.W. Bush appointed Lawrence Eagleburger as Secretary of State during recess in 1992.
jordan holmes
That was clearly too far back for Alex Jones to have read.
dan friesen
President Ronald Reagan made 240 recess appointments, an average of 30 per year.
President H.W. Bush made 77 recess appointments.
jordan holmes
Do you mean George W.?
dan friesen
H.W. Oh, H.W. Made 19 per year, basically 77 total.
Bill Clinton made 139 recess appointments, an average of 17 per year.
President George W. Bush made 171 recess appointments, an average of 21 per year.
And as of January 5th, 2012, President Barack Obama had made 32, the least of anyone on this list, an average of 4.5 per year.
jordan holmes
But that does not matter.
All of the Obama information always winds up to being, Obama's a dictator and he's doing this.
But it's always the least of anybody else.
That doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter.
dan friesen
The least recess appointments, the least vacation days, all these things he's attacked for.
jordan holmes
He played golf one time, so he's the worst.
dan friesen
The statistics don't match up, but the reason that I've included this in terms of this list of false narratives is that he can't not know the facts.
He can't not know that.
jordan holmes
I absolutely disagree.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
He absolutely does not know about recess appointments.
I would guarantee that.
dan friesen
You think it's like you're telling a Supreme Court justice to go play foursquare?
unidentified
You think that's what he thinks?
jordan holmes
Well...
dan friesen
Tetherball?
jordan holmes
Did you say any...
Like, it was George Washington who did the Supreme Court.
dan friesen
The first one, yeah.
jordan holmes
Were there any other Supreme Court other than Eisenhower?
dan friesen
I don't know.
I didn't do a full investigation.
jordan holmes
Because he's clearly not going to pay attention to any recess appointment that's not the Supreme Court.
dan friesen
But you could do any cursory amount of research and find these facts.
jordan holmes
Yeah, but he's not going to...
unidentified
He has a team.
jordan holmes
Recess appointments are not going to be something that he researched.
unidentified
He has a fucking team.
jordan holmes
But they're not there to learn things.
Or to learn...
They're not there to develop a...
Truth?
No, no, no, not even that.
They're there to develop a narrative.
So their entire job is to filter out information that supports them from information that doesn't.
dan friesen
Right.
I get you.
jordan holmes
What gets to Alex Jones is probably more the former than the latter.
dan friesen
Yeah, but you undercut...
jordan holmes
So you're telling me that Alex Jones is doing any of his own research.
dan friesen
I hope so.
I hope some.
jordan holmes
Do you believe that?
Genuinely.
You listen to his show.
dan friesen
This is the hardest question I've ever been asked.
jordan holmes
Do you truly believe that Alex Jones does his own research?
Maybe he did way back when, when he didn't have the all-star team.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
But now, has he done any research for the past ten years?
dan friesen
It's tough to say.
In my heart of hearts, I have to believe he's done some, but not much.
jordan holmes
When was the last full book that he finished?
And I'm not saying that as like a dig for, oh, I read and other people don't.
I'm just saying that...
He does a four-hour show.
dan friesen
I would guess.
jordan holmes
He has an all-day thing.
I very much doubt he has time to really go through all of this stuff.
dan friesen
Well, I would guess that it's probably None Dare Call It a Conspiracy, the book that radicalized him in junior college.
jordan holmes
That's true.
dan friesen
He's probably read that a hundred times since then.
jordan holmes
That's possible.
dan friesen
I bet that's the case.
unidentified
I mean, who knows?
jordan holmes
But even then, and his team's research is that...
Are they researching historians, or are they aggregating information that is on the internet?
dan friesen
And they're going to get yelled at if they come up with something that doesn't fit.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
If they say one part of the narrative...
dan friesen
We're assuming.
jordan holmes
If they say one thing that doesn't fit the narrative, because that's...
dan friesen
Then they get fucking Joe Biggs'd out of there.
jordan holmes
Right.
Well, that's the thing.
That is the situation with belief.
Once you get to a certain point, you're building a house of cards.
So everything has to support that foundation.
Otherwise, the whole thing, just one piece of information that doesn't support the narrative, and the whole thing goes down.
And again, even if he did discover that in his research, there is almost always going to be a part in his mind that turns that...
dan friesen
I don't like that you're saying, because to my ears, I hear this as a very positive statement about him.
jordan holmes
How so?
dan friesen
Because what you're saying is he doesn't know that he's willfully deceiving about recess appointments.
jordan holmes
I would argue that ignorance is far worse in a broadcast situation than direct lying.
dan friesen
No, I think direct lying is worse, because that means you're doing it for a reason.
Like, do you agree with me?
jordan holmes
But he is doing it for a reason.
dan friesen
But do you agree with me?
jordan holmes
And he's getting paid well for it.
It's a good gig.
dan friesen
Yeah, I mean, who knows how much he's making for those fucking weirdo pills?
jordan holmes
The truth of broadcasters, and this is the way it is on TV, and any kind of broadcaster, is if you listen to any of their personal interviews, most of them imply, and some of them have said, you know, on a good day, I believe 40% of what I say.
That's the job.
dan friesen
Maybe podcasting's different.
I believe pretty much everything I say.
jordan holmes
Well, yeah, but we're not being paid a lot of money.
dan friesen
Nope, certainly not.
jordan holmes
To say whatever it is we're told to say.
dan friesen
I wanted to make the premise of this show that we pretend that George Soros is paying us, but it's too late now.
jordan holmes
Ooh, yeah, no, we've already...
dan friesen
Next episode, we'll...
jordan holmes
I've actually already kind of implied that George Soros did commit the entire Holocaust.
dan friesen
Okay, so it's time for a couple of grab bag clips.
jordan holmes
Oh, God, we're going to need some music for that.
We are going to need some morning zoo crew like...
dan friesen
One of these days I'll buy a soundboard and we'll just have all that.
jordan holmes
Oh, the moment you do that, that's the end of this podcast.
We're just going to play with the soundboard for the entire time.
dan friesen
So one of this, I don't remember exactly what these two clips are, but I know that the first one is offensive.
jordan holmes
Oh, god damn you.
I love you.
dan friesen
Would you rather go mystery first or offensive first?
jordan holmes
You know what?
I feel like we have to go offensive because we gotta leave people with the mystery, right?
dan friesen
Oh, no.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
See what I'm saying?
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah.
I got you.
Here you go.
This is offensive.
alex jones
Obama's refusal to veto anti-Israel UN vote ranked most anti-Semitic incident in 2016.
You know, I don't want to say it's anti-Semitic.
But funding jihadis all over the Middle East to kill every Christian they get a hold of is truly anti-Christian.
And where are the Christians complaining about that?
But I know this.
It is anti-Israel to say, turn it over to Palestinians, who, if they took it over, would never stop killing each other.
They can't stop killing each other all over the Middle East.
It's a joke.
Clean up your own house before you run around lecturing the rest of the world, Muslims.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan holmes
All right.
Now, here is the...
dan friesen
By the way, in context.
jordan holmes
Here is the absolute problem with that, is yes, he characterized them as Muslims altogether.
dan friesen
No, no, no.
Aggressively characterized.
jordan holmes
Right.
unidentified
The way he said that, Muslims.
jordan holmes
Yeah, no, that's horrific.
unidentified
Get your own house in order, Muslims.
jordan holmes
And the Texas accent does not help his...
dan friesen
No, sir.
jordan holmes
Even if you're doing your best to not view him as racist, the Texas accent really makes it hard.
But here's the problem with that.
If you learn the history of Islam, the Sunni-Shia divide has been the source of so much violence.
Now, whether or not that is any different from any number, like, hey, let's maybe talk about Ireland for one little second, and where are the Christians decrying that?
unidentified
But...
jordan holmes
When did he, the twist, the twist that he had was so genius, and then he hid it.
dan friesen
What are you talking about?
jordan holmes
Immediately following the Muslims killing each other, or right before the Muslims killing each other, he had the perfect twist, which was implying that Obama was funding Islamists murdering Christians all throughout.
unidentified
Right?
dan friesen
Well, that's a big narrative of his.
jordan holmes
He said that, so he's saying that the no vote on the UN was not necessarily anti-Semitic.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
But the funding of Islamists murdering Christians all across the world is definitely anti-Christian, which is unrelated to the previous statement.
dan friesen
Right, but if true, I agree.
jordan holmes
Well, it doesn't get more anti-Christian than funding the murdering of Christians.
unidentified
I'll put that on the shelf.
jordan holmes
So if we establish that is true, then yes.
That is very anti-Christian.
unidentified
Once you prove that to me, you got a point.
jordan holmes
You are correct.
dan friesen
You got a point.
jordan holmes
So we've got that, right?
Then we switch immediately back to the no vote is certainly anti-Israel, which, as we all can guess, is anti-Semitic, right?
Or, I mean, I guess not...
dan friesen
No, no, it's hard to say.
jordan holmes
That is a very complicated...
unidentified
Like I said up top, Israel's very confusing to me.
jordan holmes
I think the no vote is absolutely the correct vote.
The abstaining.
dan friesen
I believe a lot of the settlement stuff is very exploitative.
jordan holmes
They're killing as many Palestinians as they can.
Which is so much of the deep-seated psychological issues there of Israel essentially trying to root out Palestinians is so fascinating to me.
Because the pure I hate to say irony, but just like that idea of like, oh, now it's time to get them out of our country?
dan friesen
The idea of Jews cleansing.
jordan holmes
Yeah, that's really hard to justify there.
dan friesen
It's tough, but if you look at the narrative from the Alex Jones wing of it, they aren't Palestinians.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
None of them are Palestinians.
jordan holmes
They're globalist Islamists.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
Who have been brought in to destabilize.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
dan friesen
Who are probably funded by the Open Society, George Soros, all this stuff.
jordan holmes
The one parallel I have to that, which I think is uninformed and at most an overgeneralization.
Or at least an overgeneralization.
But the only thing I can think of to explain...
The Israeli takeover of Palestine and the settlements and the absolute unwillingness to even consider a compromise is, like, you know how sexual abusers a lot of the times wind up...
Having been sexually abused.
dan friesen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan holmes
That's the one thing that I can think of that is a parallel that makes sense in that narrative.
dan friesen
Or like children of alcoholics often end up dating alcoholics.
jordan holmes
Exactly.
dan friesen
Because you're trying to recreate the situation to make it right.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Well, but that's how it works on an interpersonal level, but I don't know how that works as a society.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, if you want to call any...
Any unwieldy nation as a collection of children acting half as smart as the smartest of them.
I mean, I can see it being at least a national identity.
Like, America, regardless of what side you are on in the two-party system, there is definitely a national identity, right?
That's different from...
Most other European countries.
dan friesen
It's Americana.
jordan holmes
It's such a ridiculous country that we have.
dan friesen
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That's filled with so many, like, different regions that have zero to do with the others.
And yet we have one consistent national identity, which is...
Fuck the government.
unidentified
That's it.
jordan holmes
That's really our national identity.
dan friesen
All right, let's go to this next clip.
I have no idea what this is.
jordan holmes
All right.
Wait, we're going random grabout?
dan friesen
I really don't remember what this is.
jordan holmes
All right, let's do this.
alex jones
Let's say a nuclear war was breaking out with Russia and they just fired ICBMs in 1967.
I would expect Walter Cronkite to be desperate and say, everybody get to your bunkers.
The missiles will be here in five minutes.
jordan holmes
Yes.
alex jones
I mean, it's almost to that level now.
The urgency of repudiating Obama, repudiating the globalists, repudiating George Soros, repudiating Henry Kissinger, and all of these insane, out-of-control, anti-American people who just want to destroy prosperity to consolidate control and are willing to push us into World War III to maintain their control.
jordan holmes
Wait, press pause real quick.
Did he say Kissinger?
dan friesen
He did.
Who recently met with Mike Pence?
jordan holmes
I feel like he does not know anything about Kissinger.
dan friesen
I don't know why you're saying that.
jordan holmes
That's another grab bag pull there.
That's a mad lib?
That's a Saudi Arabia and communist China.
dan friesen
That's a mad lib?
jordan holmes
Kissinger could not be further on the side of Trump.
dan friesen
Apparently.
jordan holmes
You know, because you remember how Kissinger orchestrated on the side?
dan friesen
Anyways.
jordan holmes
Kissinger is an evil motherfucker.
dan friesen
It does seem that way.
unidentified
Yeah.
alex jones
At a certain point, you want to arrest the independent press?
You want people to come after me?
You want to go after all of our freedoms?
You want to be able to do all these horrible things?
dan friesen
See, this is another reason why up top I wanted to make clear I don't want to go after him.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
I just want to have fun.
jordan holmes
I want to find out.
I want to understand.
dan friesen
Because he's so paranoid about people wanting to kick him off the air.
I want to be clear that that's not what I want to do.
jordan holmes
No.
dan friesen
No.
jordan holmes
Well, I mean, our entire livelihood, if you're listening to this a year from now when we are the number one podcast on the planet.
dan friesen
Hold on.
We've got to get to the end of it.
I'm really curious where this is going to go.
jordan holmes
I'm excited.
alex jones
And you just think we're going to sit here and take it and take it and take it and take it and take it.
We're not going to take it.
No, we ain't going to take it.
We're not going to take it.
You keep escalating, you're gonna get hurt!
dan friesen
I swear to you, I didn't loop that.
jordan holmes
That was the perfect...
unidentified
I deserve a podcast award for perfect timing on that.
dan friesen
Also, this is only halfway through the clip.
alex jones
Believe me, you don't mean anything to me, so I don't even want to see you hurt.
Like seeing a dead, rotting horse or something in the road.
I only want to look at you.
That'll all brighten all you people.
The hell's your problem?
Bunch of sick freaks.
Bunch of neurotics.
Want to run everything.
Want to control everybody.
You can't stand people that are better looking than you.
You can't stand people that are stronger than you.
You've got some weird, twisted competitiveness in you.
It's like they say in the...
Great book.
They turn into a film.
There will be blood.
He goes, I have a competitiveness about me.
I don't want anybody else to succeed.
dan friesen
Okay, I remember why I pulled this clip now.
This is one of these great...
jordan holmes
We're not going to take it.
We're not going to take it.
We're going to...
dan friesen
This is such a great example of Alex Jones losing the thread halfway through a sentence.
jordan holmes
Oh, absolutely.
dan friesen
It's just this perfect, like, hey, they're trying to destroy the, you know, they're trying to take me off the air, the independent media trying to get rid of it.
Also, Madeline Albright's mad at people.
jordan holmes
Where did Madeline Albright come from?
dan friesen
She's mad at people who are more attractive than her.
Why is he mad at Madeline?
jordan holmes
Madeline Albright!
dan friesen
Now, of all times.
jordan holmes
Well, it's time to really take down Madeline Albright.
dan friesen
So he's...
Now, this is where the thread...
Like, he loses it entirely.
And the end of this sentence is bananas.
jordan holmes
Oh, well, it's exactly like when you're...
dan friesen
The sentence isn't done.
jordan holmes
I know, I know.
But before we go any further, it's exactly like you've been on this situation on stage where you're too drunk.
dan friesen
Oh, yeah.
jordan holmes
And you're talking, and you're getting to the bit, and then halfway through, all of a sudden, your brain goes, Nope.
Don't know the bit anymore.
dan friesen
Nope.
jordan holmes
So you just start saying stuff because you know eventually your brain's just going to at least pick something up.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
That is exactly what, we're not going to take it.
We're not going to take it.
We're not going to take it.
dan friesen
Now, what's great about this is he does find a thread.
It's the wrong thread.
jordan holmes
It's completely different.
dan friesen
So he starts going down that path, and he thinks he's going to find it again, and he doesn't, and it just goes to commercial.
jordan holmes
Bailed on the bit.
dan friesen
Which is great.
But how this fucking commercial break ends is amazing.
So he's just talked about how, like, in There Will Be Blood, it's about competition.
jordan holmes
Right.
alex jones
I don't want anybody to succeed at my expense walking on me.
But if you innovate, I'm only going to try to model myself after you, and I'm going to admire you.
I mean, I've literally pulled up by somebody's sports car before that's super awesome.
And my car is parked next to me.
That is an incredible car.
They're like, oh man, sorry, sorry.
It's better than yours.
dan friesen
No way.
First of all, no way.
jordan holmes
Is the commercial music starting?
Okay.
dan friesen
It's like the Oscars playing him off.
jordan holmes
Yeah, they're playing him off.
dan friesen
Because they realize he's lost it.
jordan holmes
Yeah.
dan friesen
This guy in a nice car pulls up, and he's like, hey, that's a nice car.
And the guy in the car is like, hey, sorry, it's better than yours.
But not being a dick, he's being actually like, hey, man, look, I'm sorry my car's better than yours.
That has never fucking happened.
A thousand times in the negative.
Never happened.
jordan holmes
You know what?
Let's see where he goes.
alex jones
And it's like, no, no, no.
Literally, I don't care that your car is so cool.
It looks like a spaceship.
You know, personally, I wouldn't drive a car like that because it draws too much attention.
But, man, that's really a piece of art.
You know, incredible.
It's like people don't get it, you know?
jordan holmes
They don't.
alex jones
Competitiveness means you like the competition.
It's not that you don't like people that are successful.
But that's who the globalists are.
Okay.
dan friesen
And off to commercial.
jordan holmes
And, okay.
So the globalists are people...
dan friesen
If you recall where that sentence started, it had to do with people trying to kick him off the air.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
Which I guess, if you want to be very generous, you could say that the idea of competition, he's competition to them.
I guess?
jordan holmes
No, they want to kill him, though.
dan friesen
Yeah, I don't understand.
jordan holmes
They don't want to drive him off the air.
dan friesen
But that metaphor with the car is amazing.
Because it's not a metaphor.
jordan holmes
That's supposed to be a literal story.
dan friesen
It's a story that has never happened to him.
It's never happened to anybody.
jordan holmes
What car looks like a spaceship?
Also, why does he envy this car?
Then say, I would never get one of those cars.
dan friesen
But it's a piece of art.
alex jones
It's a piece of art.
dan friesen
It draws too much attention to it.
jordan holmes
Look, I want to get that car, but I would never get one of those cars.
dan friesen
I have one more clip that I don't remember what it is.
jordan holmes
Is he referencing that Kurt Vonnegut short story?
dan friesen
Which one?
jordan holmes
Oh, shit.
Do you remember the one where the world is changed to be equal?
So there's this dude, and the short story is named after him.
And so he's this perfect Ubermensch guy.
And because of that, they have to make him equal to everybody else.
So they put these earmuffs on him to make him half-deaf.
They put these giant bottle...
dan friesen
That's how he sees himself.
jordan holmes
Yeah, absolutely.
He sees himself as somebody who's being, who people are trying to tear down.
Well, the globalists are trying.
Yeah, I apologize for not being specific about communist China having a digital dropbox with all the things necessary.
dan friesen
Well, that's the other thing that I think is really fascinating, is that he always complains about how there's a learned helplessness and victim mentality in liberals.
jordan holmes
Right.
dan friesen
And then he goes on to say that the globalists are responsible for all his problems.
unidentified
Right.
dan friesen
So it's like this weird...
I don't understand what the line is between one version of paranoia and the other.
I'm not entirely sure, but one's about prosperity, I guess?
I don't know.
jordan holmes
I think...
Man, here's the thing that, while we're talking, the only thing that I can conceive of is I want to...
Eventually try and understand how his brain works.
dan friesen
Well, that's why we've got to keep doing this show.
jordan holmes
We have to keep doing this show.
dan friesen
Here's one more clip for you that I don't remember what it is, but it has to do with demons.
alex jones
George in Texas, you're on the air.
unidentified
Go ahead.
alex jones
Thanks for holding.
dan friesen
They've got to start over.
jordan holmes
It's time to pray.
alex jones
George in Texas, you're on the air.
Go ahead.
Thanks for holding.
unidentified
Yes, Alex.
This is where they want to be.
They're going to start World War III.
This has always been the plan.
You know, they always have.
Sure, having Hillary be elected would have been great.
You know, they can do whatever they want.
alex jones
Yeah, they were still going to start a war when she got in.
They were going to shut the press down when she got in and send all the WikiLeaks.
unidentified
Yes, this is not.
alex jones
They're just going ahead like Trump wasn't even elected.
What does that tell you?
unidentified
They don't care because they're crazy, and I think they're possessed personally.
alex jones
Oh, they definitely are.
They're damn demons.
unidentified
Yep.
dan friesen
They're damn demons.
jordan holmes
They're...
dan friesen
They're literal demons.
jordan holmes
They're possessed.
dan friesen
Yep.
He often makes the claims that the people who are against him are literal demons or being paid by Soros.
Those are the two groups of people who are against him.
And we can say 100% neither.
jordan holmes
Fair?
Yes.
I would agree with neither.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan holmes
I would say neither.
Now, but that's a brilliant move there is because you're never pinned down.
Like, yes, there is the narrative of being possessed.
But it could also be like, no, that was a metaphor for George Soros.
But also, George Soros could be possessed, if that's what you want to believe.
But that's a metaphor for the globalists, who are also, you know.
dan friesen
He sells a shirt, too, that's like a George Soros as a goblin kind of thing.
I was like, I don't know if that's anti-Semitic, but it doesn't feel good.
It's like, I don't know.
jordan holmes
Well, you know what?
That's the next question.
dan friesen
Right.
jordan holmes
Harry Potter anti-Semitic.
dan friesen
100%.
jordan holmes
Right?
That's anti-Semitic.
dan friesen
Dobby is a Jew.
I know that for sure.
unidentified
No, no.
jordan holmes
I was talking about the goblins at the Gringotts Bank.
That was anti-Semitic.
dan friesen
I don't know anything about Harry Potter.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you right now.
dan friesen
I saw one of the movies and I remember Dobby.
jordan holmes
I'm telling you right now.
Harry Potter, you heard it here first, ladies and gentlemen.
J.K. Rowling is possessed and an anti-Semite.
dan friesen
Just kidding, Rowling.
jordan holmes
It's time to pray.
dan friesen
Well, anyway, those are the things that I wanted to tell you about Infowars today.
jordan holmes
Let's close it with a clip.
dan friesen
This makes me laugh so hard.
unidentified
Oh, I can't wait.
dan friesen
And I hope you enjoy it.
And if you've enjoyed this show, thank you for listening.
Hopefully we'll do more of these in the near future.
jordan holmes
And we'll come up with a better name.
dan friesen
And tighten it up a little bit.
This over two hours thing is probably not going to work in our favor.
jordan holmes
Nope.
dan friesen
But anyway, here we go.
alex jones
In the real world, in this epic time, and everything you do is having a giant effect.
Pray for this country.
Pray for awakening.
Pray for providence.
Pray for spiritual defense and support and provision for Trump and for Infowars and for Matt Drudge and for people like Stephen Bannon and others that are at the tip of the spear of this fight because of duty.
But understand, this is real.
You can see it.
It's not our opinion.
We are the people resisting this.
You are the folks resisting it.
We're all in this together.
And none of us are perfect, but we've got God on our side.
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