Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor - SCOTUS: It’s Not Racial Profiling

Sept. 12, 2025 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor

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SCOTUS: It’s Not Racial Profiling

Jared Taylor and Paul Kersey give thanks for a crucial ruling. They also discuss Iryna Zarutska, Korean workers, the fence not to jump, and the despicable Kara Walker. Thumbnail credit: © Charles Reed via ZUMA Wire

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	Ladies and gentlemen, dear listeners, welcome to Radio Resons.
	I'm your host, Jared Taylor.
	With me is my indispensable co-host, none other than Paul Kerzy.
	Today is September 11th.
	An important date.
	Autodomini 2025.
	So we are more than two decades since those deranged Arabs flew those airplanes into the Twin Towers and into the Pentagon and into what is it, Shankon, was it?
	Or Shanks Town, Pennsylvania.
	In any case, we're not here to talk about that.
	We have plenty of other things to talk about.
	We'll begin, as we usually do, Mr. Kerzy, with comments.
	One commenter writes in, please have that cop guest back on more often.
	That is Officer John Patterson, who, as I I always describe him as, as a police officer, he's done it all, he's seen it all.
	Anything a cop has done, he's done it.
	Anything a cop has seen, he's seen it, and probably more.
	His last appearance, says our commenter, talking about the U.S. Marshals was fascinating.
	I had no idea the FBI are mostly desk clerks, and the National Guard are just there for show.
	I think most people don't know the politics of law enforcement.
	It's a breath of fresh air to get more insight on such a vast topic.
	And listening to him made me realize how much I miss Colin Flaherty.
	Don't we all miss Colin Flaherty?
	Boy, oh boy, a great man.
	At least he was not cut down by an assassin's bullet, but boy, he went too soon.
	Gosh, we miss Colin Flaherty.
	Now we have a dissident point of view here.
	I disagree with Officer John Patterson.
	Well, actually, hold on, real quick.
	I gotta jump in.
	Uh Colin Flaherty, unfortunately, died of cancer.
	He wasn't killed by an assassin.
	No.
	No, he did not.
	That's what I say.
	He did not die of an assassin's book.
	Oh, did I say like a signal?
	Yeah, we've been talking.
	We did a podcast earlier on Charlie Kirk, and so I just had that on my mind, so sorry.
	Yes, I think I think everyone probably is thinking about Charlie Koch, even at this moment.
	We'll be thinking of him for many days to come.
	But this fellow disagrees with Officer John Patterson.
	He says, uh, okay, they may lack training in arrest procedures, but the police that work in the area can assist in processing any arrests they make.
	What if the police were in the area, they probably made the arrest.
	Our listener says, I do believe that you need the mayor, governor, and police chief to be on board with the guard.
	If the criminals know that mayor and police chiefs support the National Guard, they will be intimidated.
	But if everybody's opposed, the criminals, uh, the criminals, this could lead to violence and possibly shooting at the soldiers.
	Trump should have started with New Orleans, where public officials are said to be requesting the National Guard.
	With proven success there, that would put more pressure on Chicago and other cities.
	Well, I think the National Guard is not purely decorative.
	As people pointed out, their job is unquestionably, they can guard federal buildings.
	And if you have a real serious riot going on, uh, that is something that you want the guard doing rather than the local police, because local police have got other things to do.
	Other than that, though, I tend to be convinced by Officer John, who says that mostly they are decorative.
	And if there are no federal buildings being attacked, then okay, they may intimidate to some degree, but they are not the people who are rounding up bad guys and putting the uh the handcuffs on them.
	Now, here is uh one that you'll appreciate, Mr. Kerzy.
	I've enjoyed your podcasts about Hurricane Katrina.
	Fascinating stuff, mostly thanks to you, Mr. Kerzy, who knew a lot about it.
	I'd love to hear a podcast about Martin Luther King.
	Maybe around his birthday in January.
	Commenter continues, I personally have no admiration for the man.
	Well, personally, I have deep contempt for the man, so I've done you one better, listener.
	Another comment.
	A correction on your most recent podcast in which Mr. Taylor said that DC hasn't had a homicide for 16 or 18 days.
	That is not true.
	DC had a 12-day homicide-free streak, but it was broken when someone was shot and killed in Southeast D.C. on August 26th.
	I think I have an idea of the profile of the someone who did the shooting and the someone who did the dying.
	That is one of the most dangerous uh zip code areas in the entire country.
	So we know.
	Yes, Southeast DC.
	Additionally, such homicide free streaks in DC are not unheard of.
	From the same article that pointed out that the homicide free streak, which is 12 days old, and I confirm this.
	I clicked on the link and read the article, and this is an authentic source.
	The article says there was a 16-day streak without homicides from February 25th through March 12th of this year.
	Plus, there were two week-long periods without homicides back in April and May.
	So it's always tempting to believe your own baloney.
	And it is always good to be corrected when we end up believing our own baloney.
	So thank you very much, listener, for correcting that.
	I think that there was, but there were some other statistics that were way down was that carjacking, robbery, various things were down when you flood an area with police officers.
	Certain things do are less likely to happen.
	And perhaps a number of homicides are prevented too.
	But good to get our facts right.
	Another comment.
	I read an article recently that said the U.S. is projected to have its first year of net negative migration in 50 years.
	That would be this year, 2025, obviously.
	This is still subject to change if immigration policy changes.
	I don't think that's going to happen under Biden.
	And if we're just talking about a single year, we only have uh what, uh two thirds, uh, one-third of it left.
	So I think this really is going to be the first negative migration year in 50 years.
	I think that'll be wonderful.
	Listener says, I'm curious if recent developments have moved you on your long-held assertion that the United States, as a majority ethnically European nation, cannot endure.
	No, it is not movement.
	Unfortunately, immigration could be cut to zero.
	There could be a certain substantial outmigration, but still the differential birth rates in which the non-whites are more prolific than whites, that dooms us to minority status.
	It is a question of later rather than sooner.
	And that is why I think the United States, as it's currently constituted within these borders, will eventually become, it'll take a while, but it'll eventually become Brazil.
	In the worst possible case, it'll become more like South Africa or even Zimbabwe, long, long trend.
	We have to do something structurally to change this place into at least part of the current United States that is exclusively and permanently for us.
	Another comment, and this too was stimulated by the conversation you and I had, Mr. Kersey, about Hurricane Katrina.
	And this is this is quite, it's uh I love hearing these eyewitness observations.
	Or listen writes, I'm in New Orleans area native, and I stayed for Hurricane Katrina because my grandparents in their 80s refused to evacuate.
	We were in what's called the West Bank, located in Jefferson, Parish, directly across the Mississippi from New Orleans, and we did not have any flooding.
	I walked to check on an older friend I know had I knew had stayed about two miles away, and I saw a tar shop and a gas station being looted just one day after a storm passed.
	Now, those are necessities of life.
	You know, you've got to have tires.
	You can eat tires if uh the New Orleans blacks, they eat tires, you know, and so in the starving, you know, they'll go uh they'll go loot a tire shop.
	Put a little barbecue on it, right?
	That's right.
	That's a little uh a little Cajun sauce on it, and boy, they make good good snacks.
	Cigarettes and alcohol were the hot commodities being looted at the gas station.
	Well, some people consider them necessities of life.
	There was also a Nissan dealership directly behind my grandparents' home, and almost every single vehicle was taken off the lot.
	I watched several groups of blacks come in two or three cars.
	They would all get out and then get an individual car off the lot.
	Now I don't quite know how that works.
	Uh come in two or three cars.
	I mean, they towed them or did they hot wire them?
	I'm not quite sure how that worked, but they managed to get nearly all the cars off the lot.
	And further down, the same thing happened to other car dealerships.
	The Walmart near us had an 18-wheeler driven through the front door, looted, and destroyed so thoroughly it took almost two years to reopen.
	One last note.
	The West Bank was where people were trying to cross from New Orleans over the GNO bridge and were met with gunfire over their head from our sheriff's office.
	Do you know what the GNO stands for?
	GNO Bridge.
	But you were talking about that.
	Yes, the guy the sheriff's office quite legitimately decided, nope, uh, you guys can stay on your side of the bridge.
	And here's a final coda.
	Someone at the bright idea of dropping off some people rescued with helicopters off near the main mall on our west bank.
	Guess what happened?
	It was looted and completely burned down.
	Can you imagine that?
	You have been rescued by helicopter.
	You're probably in a rooftop somewhere.
	You've never had such traumatic experience in your life.
	You're drop down on a white part of town, and what do you do?
	You loot and you burn down local stores.
	Good grief.
	The local mall.
	Of course, none of this was in the latest Netflix documentary, which made everybody a victim of racism and other nonsensical rubbish.
	So there you go.
	Last comment.
	Now I considered not reading this one.
	Mr. Taylor, in a recent video about Irina Zarutska, the Ukrainian, referred to Caitlin Strait, a white girl, age 17, who was murdered as part of road rage by a deranged black man.
	Yes, he was in mid-50s.
	What happened was this uh black guy, apparently utterly unprovoked, was uh break checking the car that this girl, white Caitlin Strait, she was a passenger, and uh driving very aggressively, erratically.
	And so the guy who was driving the car, tried to get around him.
	And as he was going around, this black guy whips out a gun and shoots at the car, killing Caitlin Strait, age 17.
	Later on, this guy had the utter gall to say that they had shot at him first.
	I mean, this I mean, there was no car anywhere in sight.
	Now, this guy is being this, you know, this is in its own way, I think just as bad as what happened to uh Irina Zarutka.
	But there's no image, there's no uh there's no video of it, uh no hullabaloo has been made of it.
	We're gonna talk about another killing uh that uh happened, and this happened just a few days after Irina was slashed to death.
	In any case, well, not a few days after, sir.
	It happened a few days after the video was released, which brought attention back to Irina's death.
	Because Irina's death in August.
	The idiot, the video made a bit.
	It was August 22nd is when it when it happened to her.
	And and this, as I recall, this was six days later.
	Caitlin Strait was shot six days later.
	Nobody knows about her, but uh the commoder says a salient fact is she was heavily pregnant at the time, ultimately giving birth by a post-mortem C-section to a living child, presumably, hopefully a white child.
	Well, I didn't mention this because her partner, so to speak, I saw a photograph of him.
	He is not white.
	I, you know, it's it's interesting.
	I I had this feeling that was without even just the way the story was going and how young she was, and it was just 17, 17, wasn't married.
	I mean, she was a sweet-looking girl.
	Now, I'm not she does not the partner, so to speak, uh, obviously not a husband, or I suspect they would have used the word.
	Uh he was not black.
	He looked like a very dark sort of melee Malaysian or some uh Mammer Indian, but he ain't a white man, so we ain't gonna have a white child.
	So enough of the comments.
	As I say, I was considering editing that one out, but in interests of full discovery full disclosure, I thought it would include it.
	Now, now, Mr. Kerzy, uh, we should talk about Irina Zarutska, but I hesitate to go into great detail about her because I made a video about her and that covered a lot of ground.
	And uh I'm thinking perhaps uh I should just ask for now you've had a chance to read uh the text of uh the video I made, have you not?
	Uh I did.
	I thought it was quite good.
	I thought it uh it's it's a story that Greg Hood and I I'm sorry, not gonna say that name anymore.
	It's a story that my longtime friend Kevin Deanna and I discussed on View from the Right.
	And well, what what do you have to add or subtract?
	As I say, I don't want to go over all these details.
	I'll just I'll just say this.
	Uh Uh for the longest time when my friend, my late friend Colin Flaherty and I would text each other back and forth about the latest stories.
	I would always ask him, you know, Colin, which what's it going to take?
	Which one of these stories is going to do it?
	Because he and myself, we probably cataloged a couple hundred more than that over the years.
	Probably.
	And he said, big man, big man.
	This stuff's been going on for a long time.
	White people can put up with a lot.
	It's astonishing what they can put up with.
	Exactly.
	And he said, but it's gonna happen, and you've got to keep plugging away because you don't know which one it's gonna be.
	Well, you know, in this case, she was already a story before the video came out because she is an absolutely knockout gorgeous girl.
	Now there are quite a number of photographs around.
	She's not someone who was camera shy, and you can understand.
	But some of her photographs just look absolute beauty queen quality.
	And let's face it, that makes a big difference.
	And this missing link looking sort of semi-simean guy who slashed her up.
	It is just a typical picture of opposites.
	And that was certainly a lot of the visual impact of this is all very, very important.
	But I'm afraid that six months from now, some of us will remember her name, even though it is a complicated name that I have a hard time pronouncing, and a lot of people have a hard time pronouncing.
	But will anything have changed?
	My guess is no.
	But what will have changed and what could have changed is that her death and those videos and all the horrifying images of her looking up at him as if she has seen the vampire himself coming her way.
	Those images will last a long time in a lot of people's minds.
	For some people, this will be like that remarkable image of the black people cheering and whooping, looking at the TV and finding out that O.J. Simpson has been acquitted.
	I mean, you've you've circulated that photograph yourself.
	It's a mixed group, blacks and whites, and it's perfect.
	The whites are staring with complete disbelief.
	The blacks are cheering.
	They could not be happier that this black man gets away with, again, killing a beautiful white woman.
	That just made them happy as can be.
	Now, I think that at least in some way, Irina will have ratcheted up yet another segment of white people into important levels of racial consciousness.
	What do you think?
	Wow, that is such a great setup for the way to put this real quick.
	I woke up on Tuesday morning and I had about 15 texts from friends.
	It was 6:30 a.m.
	The phone is just pinging, and I I thought someone was dead.
	And it turns out that the richest man on the planet, Elon Musk, had retweeted the Paul Kersey Twitter account, people were saying.
	And I was terrified because I had had some pretty radical tweets, and I was thinking, oh, great, there's gonna be a New York Times story about um Elon Musk endorsing the American Colonization Society as the fine as the solution to our intractable problem of the R. That would have been great.
	It would have been great.
	Nothing to worry about.
	I think we're headed there, but the point is he did retweet a story about uh Charleston slain, where a guy had been, he had had, you know, scores of prior arrests, and he he murdered this other beautiful white co-ed.
	And I I remember that story, so I just started re-retweeting a lot of those stories.
	But the fact that Elon, he's so hyper-focused on this right now.
	And he's gonna be funding the uh painting of murals if they can find buildings across the country of Irena.
	And sir, the image that you laid out of Irina looking up and trying to shelter herself as if saying, why is this happening to me?
	That's as if she's almost like a big thing.
	Well, she's not even sheltering herself.
	She's not even sheltering.
	She's clutching her face just in pure horror.
	It's hard to watch.
	What she's looking up, what she's looking at is absolutely the face of wanton primitive brutality.
	Well, it's the face of why Atlanta, Birmingham, Alabama, Jackson, Mississippi, Detroit, Baltimore, why they're majority black right now, why white people left.
	That's the face that created that's the that's the face that drove the fear into white people that led to the great replacement in our major cities.
	And I would love to see that mural go up in Atlanta or Detroit or Chicago.
	And that's the one to put.
	It's like, hey, we're coming back, you know.
	Trevor Burrus, Jr.
	Let's see, let's see how long it would last without being defaced, huh?
	Anyway, you know, there are a couple of new developments in the Zarutsky story, things that I had not covered.
	And uh the fact is the feds have stepped in.
	And DiCarlos de Juan Brown Jr. has been federally charged with committing an act causing death on a my on a mass transportation system.
	You know, the feds, the feds have all of these catch-all laws.
	If you commit a crime carrying an explosive, or I could forget what they all are, but this is absolutely typical.
	You commit an act causing death on a mass transportation system.
	Now, why do they have why do the feds have a law like that?
	In any case, this is the one that they've trotted out, and they're gonna try him on that.
	Pam Bondi says we will seek the maximum penalty for this unforgivable act of violence.
	He will never again see the light of day as a free man.
	Well, it seems to me that it is not really kosher for a DA to say to prejudge the case 100% like that.
	And I'm sorry, although many people who saw that face of primitive horror wanted to see that guy did immediately.
	I do not like it, Mr. Cursey, when the feds come marching in and take their own approach to a criminal problem that is, at least in a case like this, likely to be handled perfectly fine by the locals.
	It uh I mean, we've seen this happen so many times the other way around.
	Somebody, some well, I mean, uh the perfect example is uh, oh, what was that guy?
	Uh oh, the guy who shot uh Trayvon Martin.
	Uh George Zimmerman.
	George Zimmer, George Zimmer, he is he's found innocent in a state court, and the feds rush in and go after him.
	Uh also uh there were a couple of cases uh uh usually it works the other way.
	It is some case in which they are gonna charge federal crimes to nail some white guy who somehow did not get nailed to the wall on state charges.
	This is double jeopardy in my book.
	I'm sorry.
	I am just as incensed at what happened to Irina as anybody else.
	But this guy, De Carlos Brown, was just the tip of the iceberg.
	I mean, this guy should have been in jail.
	And it was this essentially all black power structure.
	The magistrate judge who turned him loose, the woman who nominated her, the superior resident justice, the senior resident justice in the Mecklenburg court that appointed her, every one of them is in black.
	They are black women, and they are blackity, black, black, black.
	They are dedicated to equity.
	That's all they can talk about.
	Equity, equity, equity, diversity, diversity, diversity.
	And what does that equity mean in the in the criminal justice system?
	It boils down to letting black people walk free.
	Now, this guy is probably he's got a diagnosis of schizophrenia.
	He should not have been on the street.
	Uh, but we have a cuckoo system in which all of these blacks have power.
	They have the power to appoint people who have the power to turn people loose who are going to kill white people.
	And at the same time, we live in this psychotic zeitgeist in which some guy who is completely off his rocker thinks that all his problems will somehow be solved if he slashes some innocent white girl to death.
	What kind of world is that?
	We have created that world in which, much as I despise and uh wish this guy never to see the light of day, he is almost, as I say, insignificant.
	He is a pawn.
	He is the tip of the iceberg.
	And uh we've got the rot, as I said, my video goes so much further.
	In any case, uh again, I repeat, and some people won't like my saying this, I do not like the Feds stepping in and doing the job when the local, the local police are gonna do a perfectly good job.
	I am convinced that on state crime, that guy's gonna get locked up for a long time.
	This is not like the complete failure in Washington, D.C. and local law enforcement, Los Angeles, Chicago.
	In any case, I've said my bit, and as I say, I suspect we will get a number of commenters who say Taylor going soft again.
	Well, I think this time around the feds are being led from the top down by a far different uh directive than what was ordered by Barack Obama's administration back in 2012 in Florida.
	Heavens, yes.
	Heavens, yes.
	But it was illegitimate on that occasion, and I think it is not necessary on this occasion.
	Now, just one little quota to the Irina Sarutzka story.
	The Democrat Congresswoman who represents Charlotte defended the city's cashless bail system.
	Representative Alma Adams.
	She says she can't solve everything by putting people in jail.
	We can't jail our way out of some of the situations that are going on.
	We've got to look at helping.
	There are mental health issues.
	We need to put more support there.
	Now, when pressed on how come Brown is arrested 14 times before he stabbed Mrs. Arutska, she said, well, we have to deal with where people are.
	Yes, where that guy should have been is in jail.
	And yes, there are problems that we can arrest our way out of.
	If you take the most the worst repeat offenders, or if you take the people who have showing the signs of violent psychotic, complete mental illness and lock them up, you're going to solve a lot of problems.
	A guy who's been arrested 14 times, come on.
	Now, Representative Alma Adams.
	I'm afraid she fits the pattern of the power structure I described earlier.
	Because guess what, Mr. Kerzy?
	And I think you will guess just fine.
	She is a black woman.
	Got to let those brothers got to let those brothers enjoy the free, fresh air.
	Can't have them locked up.
	Poy, old boy.
	Ah, well, I'm getting on my high horse here.
	Well, Mr. Kersey, and in fact, in fact, uh, she has a brother who is on to something.
	Transit crime is gonna go down when you lock up just a few repeat offenders.
	And who is saying that, Mr. Kerzy?
	Who is saying that something?
	This is something that Representative Alma Adams would find quite reprehensible.
	Well, the reason why we have this story is because we constantly hear from the left.
	You can't arrest your way out of this.
	You can't arrest your way out of this.
	And yet we see study after study after study, as you cited in your video on DC and in discussions on DC, sir.
	Uh there are 200 people that the police know about who are responsible for most of the shootings, most of the violence in Washington, D.C. Go arrest them.
	Who are they?
	Go get them.
	So in this case, Eric Adams, uh the current mayor, the black mayor of New York City.
	He's blamed a stretch of transit crimes on repeat offenders amid mounting concerns over violent crimes plaguing the city's subway system, which I did not know this, but the Democrat governor of New York actually sent the National Guard to patrol the transit system in New York City.
	Did you know that?
	Yep, yep.
	I knew that.
	Hokel Holkle or Hoachel herself.
	Yep, yep, yep.
	So mayor I saw photographs of those guys, you know, they're wandering along the platform uh with uh I don't know if their uh M16s are loaded, but they're dressed for action.
	I don't know if they're decorative.
	I don't know if they've done any arrests.
	I don't know if somebody's gonna just try to push on them off the platform in front of an oncoming train.
	That would be exciting.
	But yep, there they were.
	Well, Adams went on and he's done, and he's talked a lot about this, especially in light of what's all happening with the potential new Indian Muslim mayor of New York and all of his promises to basically get rid of um undercover officers, get rid of the gang database.
	It's very important to know that the police know the people who are doing the crimes, and this could easily be dealt with.
	Uh Adams said the root problem lies in a surge of recidivism.
	He blames a stretch of transit crimes on repeat offenders, and he blames um, and he appeared alongside the New York police department chief of transit, Michael Kemper, and they utilize an infographic to present data revealing the extent of repeat offenses Committed by individuals arrested for crimes in the transit system.
	The data shows, Mr. Taylor, that 38 individuals arrested for assault in the transit system last year were linked to 1,126 additional crimes across the city.
	Wow.
	But it doesn't stop there, he said.
	542 people who were arrested for shoplifting committed 7,600 crimes in our city.
	So we don't have a surge in crime.
	We have a surge in recidivism.
	Well, that's just it.
	You have these.
	Remember back in the old days when there was a certain amount of sanity among the Democrats, Hillary Clinton himself, herself used the word super predator.
	Super predator.
	Kamell Harris would slit her wrist before she used a word like that.
	But yes, there are people known to the police.
	And the other thing is, you always ask yourself, why are these people on the loose?
	Now, the other thing about it is if you start locking these people up and housing them in very unpleasant conditions, and I mean unpleasant, that's going to persuade the others not to do it.
	Not only are you get these guys out there, they're clearing committing crime after crime after crime after crime, they probably brag about it.
	They tell other buddies, hey, look at this Rolex I got.
	You know, just took it off a white man.
	Oh boy, he looked funny rolling around on the ground after I clocked him.
	And what's going to happen?
	He gets out, he's not arrested, and all his buddies are gonna say, wow, I want a Rolex too.
	This is the it's just insane.
	In any case, oh yeah, I'm sorry.
	I jumped in.
	No, no.
	I mean, it's it's it's just one of those situations where, again, uh, this is where which you kind of you kind of uh bemoaned the feds coming in.
	I would love it if DHS actually said, hey, we're gonna put a consent decree on New York City, give us the data of all this.
	We're gonna go arrest these people.
	We're gonna actually use federal resources to make our American city safe.
	And uh I know you might not like that.
	Uh well, well, the thing about it is already there are probably billions of dollars in federal block grants that go to the police.
	The local people who are supposed to know the local situation need to be spending this money effectively.
	It uh I think it's just it's strictly a matter of will.
	And if the bad guys get locked up, that is going to discourage the other potential bad guys, of which there are already a great many.
	And you know, you know something else, Mr. Cursey?
	If they run out of space in the gym, there's always the death penalty.
	Dare I say that?
	Did I say that?
	No, I didn't say that.
	You said it.
	I heard you heard it.
	Uh-oh.
	Uh-oh.
	No, I mean, that's one of the things about the De Carlos uh Irena situation.
	Yes.
	You know, President Trump should, you know, the left always pounces on things.
	Whenever there's a situation like what we saw in Minneapolis with the uh George Floyd, Derek Chauvin incident.
	Derek Chauvin was doing his job.
	Yes.
	But they were able to say, well, this is this is indicative of how police treat blacks across the country.
	We needed to fund the police.
	In this case, President Trump should say, you know, there's a lot of people on death row right now.
	We need to take them out.
	They've they've they've been, they've been sentenced to death.
	Why have they been on death row for 20, 30, 40 years?
	Yes, yes.
	You know, I looked up the average death row uh time.
	And it's something like, I think, as I seem to recall it was something on the order of 16 years.
	This is this is nuts.
	They get room and bored and they probably get all kind of uh cycling uh psychological counseling and 16 years.
	That's a lot of final meals they're getting every night before they mean that's that's disgusting.
	Yes.
	And by that time, by the time a guy gets frizzled or uh he takes his last gasp of uh whatever gas they're using these days, uh, everybody's forgotten about him.
	But if somebody commits a crime and the word gets out, uh, you know, let's say a month later, this guy has gone to his reward.
	I mean, there you have some kind of deterrent effect.
	But if you peep if people aren't killing it, and everybody's forgotten their names, that really reduces dirt.
	But you know, we we got a lot to cover here.
	And uh let me see.
	This, you know, uh, this is a story that I just read the headlines for, and I really want to get to the bottom of it.
	And so I did a little doping around, and this is about uh those hundreds of South Korean workers that were sent uh that were deported from Bryan County, Georgia, in a place called Ellabel, because the U.S. authorities, ICE had carried out an immigration raid at a back at a battery factory.
	Now, we probably we need battery factories.
	And this is what all the tariffs are all about.
	Hyundai Motor, that's a that's the uh automobile company and LG Energy Solutions.
	They're a battery company.
	They have gotten together on a joint venture to produce electric vehicle batteries.
	Well, I want them produced in the United States, but ICE raids the place and detains about 475 people, over 300 of whom were South Koreans.
	Now videos showed some of these guys being shackled, hands, ankles, waists in chain gangs.
	And this caused, as you can imagine, a very strong reaction in South Korea, where a lot of people very humiliated and betrayed by what they saw as harsh treatment.
	Well, as it turns out, many of them were doing specialized short-term work, engineering, installation setup, trying to get this factory going, which, according to some interpretations of the B-1 business visitor visa, they're allowed to do.
	Or sometimes uh that that's part of the problem, which we have these insanely complicated visa system, immigration is weird.
	But the B-1 visitor visit business visitor visa doesn't usually permit paid labor.
	But it can be used under certain circumstances for technical or short-term specialist work.
	And uh so uh they had one interpretation.
	I I I imagine they were cutting corners.
	I imagine some of them knew that uh they weren't supposed to be working.
	But uh the point is they are not gonna go on welfare.
	They're not going to kill beautiful white ladies in the subway.
	They're gonna go home.
	They're not gonna be part of uh the great replacement.
	And I would argue, Mr. Cursey, and again, some of uh our Trump admirers will tell me uh-uh-uh, Taylor's getting soft.
	I think it was a big mistake to show up and uh chain them up and deport them.
	Well, the South Koreans were furious, of course, and the U.S. did agree to release over 300 of these South Koreans on what's called voluntary departure rather than formal deportation.
	Seems to me that's the least they could do.
	Voluntary departure is important because it has hardly any long-term penalties for re-entry.
	So they voluntarily left, unlike the people who get booted for sure, and then they never can come back, or they can come back, what, 10 years later or something like that.
	And the Koreans sent a charter airplane to take them back to South Korea.
	Now, the South Koreans have said, hey, you keep doing this, and we're gonna think twice about investing in U.S. manufacturing.
	I think that's a legitimate response.
	Now, if they were cutting corners, if they were misusing the visas, ICE or whoever would have been involved, should have sat down to the people who run this company and said, look, fellas, uh, you know, we don't want to ship you on an airplane in chains, but we've got to figure this out.
	The South Koreans say that the visa and immigration system is not set up for the kind of work they need doing.
	Now, of course, the idea is we have American factories because we want Americans to have jobs, but I'm sure there's all kinds of specialized know-how, specialized equipment.
	These are two Korean companies getting together to build a uh build a factory in the United States.
	It can't be done without Korean know-how and Korean engineers, probably a lot of them don't even speak much in the way of English.
	They're over here doing the job, and there's got to be some sort of visa system to make this possible.
	And I really think ICE blundered in not approaching them in a sort of a look, fellas, uh technically what you're doing is wrong, but we need to work something out.
	So I just know that this facility was a major victory for Governor Brian Kemp in attracting international investment into Georgia.
	Yes.
	Uh Kia, and if you ever see Kiyas on the interstate uh listeners across the country, uh Kia, they've got a huge factory in West Point, Georgia, which is right on the Alabama.
	This was just well, I guess Hyundai and Kia are the same these days.
	I think they would they were it was a Hyundai motor.
	This is a separate one, but I'm just I'm just trying to make the point that Georgia is a very business, international, business-friendly state.
	You have quick access to the busiest airport in the country.
	And so it is a place that you would hope would also drive the local economy and be an engineer of job school characters.
	Of course.
	Of course, a positive thing.
	So this is a black eye.
	Not just Brian Kemp.
	I think it's a blacker eye for uh for the ice.
	Brian Kemp probably didn't know a thing about it.
	I haven't seen any reaction for him, but he's probably hopping mad.
	He probably gave them tax incentives.
	He wooed them, and all of a sudden they don't get a very warm, warm welcome in the United States.
	And, you know, I do not doubt that uh they were probably doing some things that technically they weren't supposed to do, but we need to work it out.
	We don't need to humiliate people who are building factories in the United States, which is what Donald Trump says he wants to have happen.
	Anyway, okay, a piece of good news, a piece of very good news.
	This was a really important Supreme Court ruling.
	It was a divided Supreme Court.
	It said that the Trump administration can resume the more or less indiscriminate immigration-related stops in Los Angeles.
	That's what's prompted a riots, really, riots that were so severe that it justified bringing in the National Guard.
	And there were charges of racial profiling.
	But over the objections of three of the justices, I suspect you can imagine who they are.
	The court on September 8th blocked the judge's ruling that federal agents need a reasonable suspicion that the person they're questioning is an illegal.
	Now that was a decision by, and apparently just, you know, the way they're cruising around uh Home Depot parking lot, if you've got some brown-skinned guy who speaks no English, uh, chances are you know he's probably not got a visa.
	And that's not good enough, said Judge Maame Frimpong.
	These are the people who are making legal decisions in the United States these days, uh ladies and gentlemen.
	She's of the Central District of California, which might as well not be part of the United States.
	No.
	She says, she says the government can't rely on a person's ethnicity, what language they speak, and whether they're at a particular location, such as a pickup site for day laborers or what kind of work they do.
	You can't report you can't rely on that.
	Now, what can you rely on, Mr. Kersey?
	I suppose uh how are you gonna know?
	How are you gonna know?
	How would you find out somebody's in the country illegally unless you stop him and question it?
	Frimpong, God, what a name.
	I think this is uh somebody from the Philippines.
	You know, I've heard of Maame Frimpong before.
	I don't think she's a Trump employee, a Trump and um appointee somehow.
	She issued the temporary order in July in response to a class action suit filed by a group of Latinos, including U.S. citizens who'd been caught up in ice raids.
	Now, the administration challenged this, challenged their right to sue, and said the judge improperly elevated the First Amendment's quite low bar for reasonable suspicion for search and seizure.
	The government wasn't doing anything wrong, said the Justice Department.
	And a region where a significant share of the people may be illegal, the Justice Department said, reasonable suspicion to stop suspected illegal aliens will necessarily encompass a reasonably broad profile.
	100% true.
	The government figures about 10% of the population in parts of southern and central California is illegal.
	And that's why Los Angeles is the top enforcement priority.
	As I say, how else are you going to do it?
	How else are you going to figure it out?
	You're going to sneak into their houses and see if they've got the U.S. passport?
	I just don't see how you're going to find out otherwise.
	Justice Sonia Sotomayor.
	She says we should not have to live in a country where the government can seize anyone who looks Latino, speaks Spanish, and appears to work a low-wage job.
	Now, if this were a Byron, uh a Biden administration or Biden Supreme Court, that would have been the governing reason.
	Justice Pratt Kavanaugh, on the other hand, wrote, though ethnicity alone can't be the basis for reasonable suspicion, it can be relevant when considered with other factors.
	Those circumstances taken together can constitute reasonable suspicion of illegal presence in the United States.
	And as everyone has been pointing out, if somebody gets stopped and can prove he's a U.S. citizen or otherwise lawfully in the country, they are promptly turned loose.
	Now, Attorney General Prime Bondi called this decision a massive victory.
	And in this case, if Donald Trump called it huge, huge, that's not an exaggeration.
	Can you imagine if the Supreme Court had said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
	You've got uh, I don't know, wire capped them, or uh, as I say, uh uh, I don't know, get uh judges, get a get a warrant uh to go uh snoop through their private documents.
	Uh it'd be impossible to give these people a boot.
	Now, so yes, it's a massive victory.
	I was worried about that.
	You know, I saw that case going through the courts, and I really breathed a sigh of relief.
	Immigrant rights activists, on the other hand, around the country plan to respond with protests in late September to show their anger.
	Well, mark your calendar, Mr. Cursey, late September.
	We'll see what they're up to.
	I think that would be a great, great opportunity for ice raids.
	Agreed.
	Anyway, well, Mr. Kerzy, uh, I probably am going to turn off uh my take out my earbuds when you tell us this next story about uh Stonewall Jackson.
	But uh these uh the the truth uh we must not turn our faces away from the truth.
	So torture me.
	Well, we've talked about this upcoming exhibit in Los Angeles of all these monuments, primarily Confederate monuments have been taken down over the past 10 years.
	Uh you of course had a post go viral, sir on X of the Valentine Museum and the Jefferson Davis statue in its fallen state that I took and sent over to you.
	And they go viral.
	I mean, yeah, that was that was one of my most successful tweets ever, ever, and thanks entirely to a photograph taken by you, sir.
	It was hard to see.
	It was hard to see in person, sir.
	Uh I saw it many, many, many times standing proudly on Monument Avenue.
	And I only saw the statue we're going to talk about, the Stonewall Jackson statue that used to be in Charlottesville.
	Uh I thought it was one of the it was a breathtaking statue.
	And read a New York Times article about it, unfortunately it's behind a paywall, but I found a subsack.
	The author's name is Kevin M. Levine.
	He is the author of Searching for Black Confederates.
	Oh boy.
	But keep dreaming.
	Yeah.
	He's he's going to be searching for a while, isn't he?
	Um, he he published a substack, gloating, Mr. Taylor.
	And dear listener, about the beheading of Stonewall Jackson.
	So let's roll the ugliness.
	Artist Carol Walker is using the decommissioned bra and equestion statue of Confederate General Thomas Stonewall Jackson from Charlottesville, Virginia, as material for a new art installation.
	The work titled Unmanned Drone, 2023 to 2025.
	It's the centerpiece of a major exhibition in Los Angeles called Monuments.
	It was dedicated back in 1921.
	It was taken down by the city a hundred years later, four years ago, 2021, after years of quote-unquote controversy.
	The Los Angeles nonprofit, the brick, formerly lax art, acquired the monument.
	Now, this is uh some excerpts from the New York Times article that is behind a paywall.
	The New York Times wrote gushingly about Carol Walker.
	She made the work at a foundry in upstate New York.
	The first step in the process, she said, was a really kind of gruesome beheading of the Jackson figure that she said left her left her unsettled.
	Well, I'm glad I'm glad she was at least unsettled by the beheading.
	Well, she wasn't exulting, apparently, or at least she claimed she wasn't insulting.
	I'm a little bit surprised by her because uh Carol Walker is just a mess.
	Anti-white artist uh slowered over by all the art people.
	Probably left it, she was probably left unsettled because it was a monument and not a person, but um uh but uh and she was probably unsatisfied was probably the word she was looking for.
	But no, sir, the article would continue.
	Though Some people present applauded as the head came off, she said.
	I actually felt like it was such a violent act that I was really uncomfortable with it.
	But she felt there was no alternative.
	I knew that what I was going to do was going to involve not having the head in its right place.
	So again, Mr. Taylor, all these people who say this this monument that was in a public place, it belongs in a museum, and it can be it can be looked upon there and studied.
	Well, it's it this is going to be the museum, but it's going to be gruesomely decorated to the uh current tastes of black artists.
	I mean, think back a couple years ago.
	I remember texting you when the New York Times published the story of what happened to the Robert E. Lee Monument in Charlottesville.
	Yeah.
	Melted it down.
	And just how gruesome that photo was.
	I think that's the right word.
	It was it was macabre.
	It was, it was, you know, it was it was a it was almost as if forces beyond our control were unleashed on the world.
	Because a lot's changed since then, since they melted down the Robert E. Lee um face uh from that.
	Well, that's true.
	But the trouble is the those monuments uh have not gone back up.
	And that well, I guess the only one is uh the Confederate reconciliation monument that's gonna go back in uh uh Arlington Cemetery.
	Well, and we we also know that there's a statue to Albert Pike, the uh Confederate general that will go back up in DC.
	Right.
	So, but the substat goes on to say the artist chose not to visit Charlottesville to study the sculpture's past or present or recent context, rather, she decided to treat its theme as a symbol of the pervasive ideology of the lost cause across the South, the efforts to justify the Confederacy as honorable long after the Civil War, and to focus on the object itself as a formal challenge.
	Well, you know, Mr. Taylor, the it's funny just reading that the Civil War ended in 1860 1865.
	So the monument went up in what, 56 years later in 1921?
	Uh the Robert E. Lee statue in Richmond.
	That went up in 1890.
	Um this isn't that long after the Civil War, actually.
	No.
	At all.
	Um, but anyways, this was basically mine now, she said.
	My found object, recalling her reaction when she encountered the statue in a warehouse in Newark.
	It's funny to think that Newark is now a 9% white city, and there's a monument of George Floyd in front of City Hall there.
	Well, number now, the monument of Stonewall was taken from Charlottesville to Newark, New Jersey.
	Newark, New Jersey.
	That's where that's where her uh that's I guess where it's good grief.
	I wonder how in heaven's name that, huh?
	Anyway, uh, it's all disgusting.
	She resolved to treat it as an object to be played with and contended with and wrestled with as an artist.
	So cut its head off.
	Great.
	Yeah.
	Yeah.
	She reconf she reconfigured the statue's bronze into its distorted new form, creating what has been described as a melted, mutant, grotesque.
	She called the new sculpture a Frankenstein monster of itself and a ghostly apparition.
	She's transition.
	Apparition.
	I'm sorry.
	Apparition.
	I didn't see the eye there.
	No.
	Apparition.
	It's always it's always there, Mr. Cursey.
	It's always there.
	I'm just trying to excuse my just awful fill qua and make it sound funny.
	That's okay.
	It's ghostly apparition.
	The artist has transformed the object's original intent, subverting its heroic loss caused narrative.
	When Hamza Walker suggested getting Kara Walker, a Confederate statue, she demurred.
	Weary, she said, of the high level of spectacle that felt unavoidable with this sort of work.
	You know, I've done monuments, she recalled.
	Please don't make me sing.
	But faced with the Jackson statue, she relented, intrigued by the artistic potential of transforming it into Frankentine's Frankenstein's monster itself.
	There's something very satisfying working that with this material, the object itself.
	Well, you know, Dr. Frankenstein, when he created the uh modern Prometheus, he had no idea what he was unleashing on the world.
	So perhaps she doesn't either.
	Well, you know, it's it's just it's just so repulsive to me.
	You get these black people who hate white people.
	And they take they take a statue of a great man, a great man of whom she is unworthy to tie the laces on his shoes.
	And she turns this statue into a Frankenstein monster of a great Southern man.
	This is enough to uh just make you rend your clothes and spend your life in sackcloth and ashes.
	This is you've told a story before, and I think it it warrants being retold quickly of what happened when the Stonewall Jackson Monument on Monument Avenue was unveiled.
	Well, yes, that is a that is a very moving story.
	That was at a time when there were still many Confederate veterans, and uh there was this great crowd of people right there in Richmond.
	The statue is unveiled, they have great rousing speeches, night begins to fall, and some of the veterans, the veterans are start rolling out bedrolls uh right there on the ground by the statue.
	And some of the townsman come along and say, uh, oh, you're not gonna sleep on the ground here.
	For heaven's sake, I got a spare bedroom.
	Come on.
	Uh they said, nope, we just want to bunk out one more night with the general.
	Very moving story.
	Bunk out with the general again.
	Well, you know, I'm I'm I'm not looking forward, but I do plan to go see this museum and to see all of what they've done to uh they got the Calhoun statue, I believe, from uh, or at least part of the pedestal that was demolished from Charleston.
	We know they have the um they have the Matthew Fontaine Maury statue from Monument Avenue in Richmond.
	They get the Jefferson Davis.
	And they'll also they're gonna unveil, I believe what they've turned the Robert E. Lee statue into uh that was in Charlottesville.
	Oh, good Lord, yes.
	Who knows what kind of have you seen a photograph of that by any chance?
	Of it melted down?
	Yeah, well, I've seen it melted down, but I've no idea what they've turned it into.
	No, it's different.
	That's that that's actually going to be one of the main exhibits that they debut without any fanfare.
	Right now they're just celebrating this.
	I mean, this is the second article in the New York Times where uh they've just basically they're just gonna be able to do it.
	Mr. Kerzy, uh come the Jubilee, and we decide what to do with the statues of Martin Luther King that are all around.
	I'm not sure whether we would leave them or whether we would take them down.
	But I would like to think that white people would not mutilate them, make fun of them, cover them with graffiti or whatever it is.
	I would like to think that we would not do that.
	Maybe I'm wrong, but then this just is just seems like such low, mean spirited, disgusting behavior.
	Well, they would be need to they need to be an exhibit of that era where our progress was impeded by our desire to disprove by our desire to disprove nature.
	And uh, this belief that we could run a society based on egalitarian dreams.
	Yeah and we'd we'd all have caviar we'd all have caviar wishes uh granted, and in turn we I think we know it what's happened.
	And the article would go on real quick.
	Um she said she developed her concept after she absorbed a book I've never read, I've never heard of Stonewall Jackson, the black man's friend, a 2006 Pologia that presents the Confederate general as a Christian evangelizer who disliked slavery but defended it as part of divine law, part subordinate to the cause of states' rights.
	To Walker, the book exemplified the layers of delusion in Lost Cause ideology.
	That's not delusion at all.
	That's not delusion at all.
	He was famous for leading black people in prayer.
	In his will, he set aside a considerable amount of money for a church building for blacks, slaves, and free.
	This is not a delusion.
	He he genuinely thought that the white man and the black man were brothers, white man was the elder brother and took responsibility for treating him properly, and to make sure that the black brother goes to heaven.
	And so you make sure that he is Christian just as you are.
	That's not delusion.
	That's one of the harder parts uh to slog through in the movie Gods in Generals, uh, actually, that came out.
	If you remember, there are a number of people.
	I remember that.
	I remember there's this scene of uh Stonewall playing with the black boys.
	Yeah.
	It's there's nothing wrong with that.
	Uh nothing wrong with that.
	It's just there's a lot of that in the movie, and you're just like, wow, what's the this movie's um Ron Maxwell's film?
	This is okay.
	This is a long film.
	Uh uh, do we let's get on, okay?
	That was an important part of understanding Stonewall Jackson.
	I know it was.
	I know it was.
	And it's something that uh Walker admitted she found charming, This book, she said bindingly.
	Um most revealing, though, she said, was the story of Little Sorrel, which became an object of fetishistic attention from the Civil War.
	Stabled at the Confederate soldiers' home in Richmond, the horse was brought out for fairs and veterans events where people would pull tufts of its mane as keepsakes, even as it grew old and arthritic, eventually requiring a ho uh hoist to rise it to its feet.
	Oh dear.
	After it died from an inevitable fall, breaking its back, it was taxidermy.
	And the equine energy and the equine energy of unmanned drone, Walker has channeled ultimately her sympathy for the animal's plight, almost subsuming Jackson in the process.
	Her research she added had her delving into equine anatomy and primers on how horses are butchered.
	I almost don't want to see this now the more I read about it.
	This monument, what she turned it into.
	This is just sick stuff.
	She chose the name Unnamed Drone because it seemed fitting somehow as a weapon of war.
	The title suggests the detached remote nature of modern warfare, contrasting it with the romanticized grandeur of the Confederate monument.
	In addition, the artist created three related works from sections of the granite pedestal on which the statue once stood.
	These pieces feature drawn silhouettes and sandblasted stars presenting a different reinterpretation of the monument's original stone.
	Oh boy, I can't wait.
	I just can't wait.
	Well, you know, uh Mr. Cursey, I am often accused of a certain sentimental view of our opponents.
	Uh I don't even like to call them enemies, especially when they are people of the same race.
	But uh you quoted something in a discussion we had earlier today that I've been musing on, and have found these statistics yet again.
	And as you pointed out, they are very disturbing.
	Apparently, 48% of liberals say it would be at least somewhat justified to murder liberals.
	Elon Musk.
	Mm-hmm.
	I bet Carol Walker is one of them.
	Fifty-five percent said the same about Donald Trump.
	I remember polls show only what people are prepared to say over the phone to a complete stranger.
	I bet the percentage of these self-identifying liberals who, in their heart of hearts, would be delighted if Musk or Trump were to be murdered, could be much higher.
	I mean, these are very difficult numbers to deal with.
	Now, I would like to see the whole poll, what the other possibilities were somewhat justified, somewhat justified.
	This is very spooky spot spooky stuff, but that's those are the kinds of people that we are dealing with.
	And um, I know I'm been it's always been my idea that uh our white, our wayward white brothers and sisters are to be reproved, but brought back to our bosoms with love.
	And uh I still believe that, but it makes it mighty mighty hard when some of them talk this way.
	And for those who don't know what study we're talking about, that was from Rutgers University's network contained uh contagion research institute that was published in April, sir.
	I would venture to guess that those numbers might have risen 10% since then.
	I wonder.
	I wonder.
	Well, I wonder if they went up or down afterwards.
	10% up after Charlie.
	I uh you know, we we talked about Charlie Kirk and that podcast will be up, and we encourage all of you to listen to our our thoughts on Charlie Kirk and his legacy and just this terrible assassination.
	But I I would uh based on what you're seeing today with the outpouring of people posting on Facebook, people who work in your communities, you know, uh doctors, uh lawyers, healthcare professionals, teachers, um, flight attendants, pilots.
	Well, Chris Rufo had an amazing tweet about that.
	And I tweeted at him.
	Hey, you know, when the USSR fell, it was pretty shocking to see how many people were informats and worked with the Stasi in East Germany.
	Well, so so you're talking about people who are just celebrating happy as happy as can be that uh Kurt was killed.
	You're talking about that.
	Oh, yes, sir.
	And they're posting it on their own Facebook pages on their TikToks, on their Instagrams.
	And just And they're not all, they're not all, as I said before.
	Uh people with orange hair and five nose rings.
	No, no, they're These are airline pilots and nurses and there was a comic book writer.
	There was a comic book writer who got her comic uh canceled, uh, who did have a nose ring and uh people were pouncing.
	And you know, uh someone who I really respect, Helen Andrews, she put out an amazing tweet, sir.
	She said, Getting people fired won't bring back the dead, but the number of people filed for fired for equivocating about this assassination is one that will be quoted on in history books.
	And I want the number to be as big as possible, the better to show that we've finally had enough.
	Well, let's end on uh somewhat light-spirited, light-hearted little episode.
	I don't know if you follow this, but ICE raided a construction site near the CIA headquarters.
	This just last Wednesday.
	And some of the fleeing workers, I mean, they just dashed off in every possible direction, and some of them tried to hop the fence surrounding CIA headquarters.
	Well, apparently there's an outer fence, and uh, these are illegals after all.
	They're good at jumping fences, and so they they got over the outer f outer fence, but apparently they found themselves caught between two fences because there is a larger fence inside the lower outer fence, outer fence.
	So uh the fence hoppers got stuck in between the fences, and I assume they were turned over to ice, which is exactly where they belong.
	In any case, we run out of time, Mr. Kersey.
	Happens every week.
	And ladies and gentlemen, it is a true joy and a privilege and an honor and a pleasure to spend this time with you.
	We look forward to doing the same next week.

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