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April 23, 2019 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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‘It’s the Craziest Thing I’ve Ever Seen in All My Born Days’
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to this edition of Renaissance Radio.
It's my pleasure to have a special guest.
This is Jesse Lee Peterson.
He's well known as the host of the Jesse Lee Peterson Show.
He is also the author of an excellent book called The Antidote, Healing America from the Poisons of Hate, Blame and Victimhood.
That really sounds like a promising title, doesn't it?
It's available on Amazon.
Mr. Peterson is also a columnist for World Net Dating, where he writes a regular column, and he's also the head and founder of something called the Brotherhood Organization of a New Destiny, B-O-N-D.
And its purpose is to restore men, particularly black men, as spiritual leaders, turn them back to God, and bring mothers and fathers back together.
All entirely worthy projects.
So, welcome, Mr. Peterson.
I'm glad that you can be able to appear with me on this podcast.
Thank you, Jared.
I appreciate being on it.
It's nice to talk to you again.
Yes, it's a pleasure.
Is there anything that I should add in my introduction to you?
Something that's important that I might have left out?
No, not really.
We have a daily radio show we do, as you said, a podcast.
It's jlptalk.com, and people can definitely join us on that for sure.
Monday through Friday, 6am to 9am Pacific Time.
Yes, and that's right, you have a number of websites, jesseleepeterson.com and rebuildingtheman.com.
Which is the most important one.
Rebuilding the man.
Very good, very good.
Well, I'm happy to introduce those websites to our listeners if they're not yet familiar with them.
Well, let's leap right into just a few questions.
First of all, I gather that it is not your view that racism in the United States is today a serious barrier to the advancement of blacks and other non-whites.
Is that correct?
Well, racism has never existed at all.
It never existed.
It's a made-up word.
There is no such thing as racism, sexism, homophobism, islamophobism, or deadbeatism.
Those are words that are made up by the children of the lie in order to control the people who disagree with them.
Because as long as you believe those words exist, you're never going to be able to solve the problem.
If you deal with the reality of what it is, you can overcome the problem.
So, we have to stop listening to what they're saying.
The children of the law, by the way, for those who don't know, the liberal media, the Democratic Party, the right-wing Republicans, the black race hustlers, and the never-Trumpers.
Yes, that's quite a large number, isn't it?
Of course, I think it would be naive to say that there has never been any systematic set of barriers for the advancement of blacks when there were Jim Crow laws and blacks were kept out of professions.
That was one thing.
But all of those laws have disappeared long ago.
And would you say that, say, since the 1960s, for example, whether you call it racism or not, whether the attitudes of whites have been much of an impediment to black advancement?
Well, I grew up, I was born in Alabama, as you know, on a plantation, and I grew up under the Jim Crow laws.
And black people did better under the Jim Crow laws than they're doing today, when they're supposed to be free.
And the worst thing that happened to black people is that the Civil Rights Movement started.
When the Civil Rights Movement happened, it took blacks down the wrong path.
and they have never recovered.
The so-called civil rights leader helped supported a bill that where the government would give black people free money, welfare, what they call it, but the fathers couldn't be in the home.
Black people had to, they started to think, stop thinking for themselves and started to listen to the so-called civil rights leaders They turned their lives over to someone else.
And whenever someone else takes over your life, they're going to use you for their own personal gain.
So the Civil Rights Movement wasn't even a good thing that should have happened in our country.
It should not have happened.
Otherwise, black people would have come together naturally.
The good with the good and the bad with the bad of all races and all men.
But they were forced to come together in the wrong way as a result of the Civil Rights Movement.
It's your view, then, that if an employer wishes to serve only black clients or only white clients, he should entirely have that right?
If you spend your money and your time starting your own business, you have a right to service whomever you want.
You have a right to allow in your business whomever you want.
No one else has a right, especially in America, to tell you who you can and cannot service.
Now, if my tax dollars is going toward your business to help it, then you lose that right to determine who goes in or goes out.
But when it's private business, it's a private business.
It might not be a good idea to restrict certain people from coming in because you're going to lose money.
Your company won't grow as it should and would if you allow all people in.
But you still have a right to that if it's a private business started by you.
Yes, I agree 100%.
I think the government telling you that you have to choose your clients It's not really that much different from the government telling you that you have to choose your wife.
I'm sorry, that you don't have the right to choose your clients.
It's like saying you don't have the right to choose your wife or your girlfriend.
That's right.
The government can't make people love one another.
We have to love each other voluntarily.
And that's one thing that the government, along with the so-called Civil Rights Movement, tried to do when the Civil Rights Movement was going on.
They were trying to make people love one another.
You can't do that.
It has to be voluntarily, otherwise it's not real love.
Given the kind of choices that the United States of America made, and it wasn't just black people, it was white people too, I think white people had a larger hand in making this decision, but given a choice between a kind of Booker T. Washington idea that black people should rise according to their own strength, As opposed to the W.E.B.
Du Bois view that, wait a minute, black people have to wait for white people to reform themselves and wait for white people to transform themselves, otherwise blacks can't get ahead.
We very much went in the W.E.B.
Du Bois direction.
I assume that you are much more of an admirer of Booker T. Washington, the idea that blacks are advanced, they should not look for any kind of special handouts, or they can't wait for white people to change their minds, they just need to put their heads down and work hard.
That's right.
W.E.B.
Du Bois was an enemy not only of black people and white people, but of the country.
He eventually went to Africa somewhere and renounced his citizenship to America and ended up dying over there, whereas Booker T. Washington He did the right thing in that he encouraged black people to become more independent.
And because blacks had serviced white people for a long time, they had really good talent.
They knew how to grow crops on the land.
They knew how to do domestic works and stuff like that.
And Booker T believed that if Black people were given the chance that not only would they be a benefit to themselves, but also to white Americans and the rest of the world.
And that's why he tried to teach them and and helped them grow farms and things like that, because he wanted black people to be independent.
They had to work hard, be responsible for themselves, and grow up, do it the right way, and they would have been better.
And that was happening prior to the Civil Rights Movement.
When I was growing up, I had family members who owned, under the Jim Crow laws, they owned their own lands.
They worked hard.
They sent their kids to colleges, black universities at the time, but they still were educated, and they were coming back as bankers, school teachers, and principals, and businessmen, and they were doing quite well.
They gave that up during the Civil Rights Movement.
Yes, I think the United States went in a terrible direction by choosing the view that somehow it was up to white people to make sure that black people could succeed.
That's a horrible mistake, and Booker T. Washington knew that.
That's why W.E.B.
Du Bois and others hated Booker T., because W.E.B.
Du Bois wanted the talented to think for black people, to tell them what to do and what not to do, and they wanted to become the god of black Americans.
Unfortunately, that has happened, but it's the wrong god.
They are from their father, the devil.
They are not of the true god.
Do you think That if the United States had gone in the direction of Booker T. Washington instead of WB Du Bois, it would have been possible to build a peaceful and successful multiracial America.
Absolutely.
And we will still have the good from the evil, because you're going to always have both, until God says no to evil.
But you will have those blacks and whites on the side of evil, and you will have those blacks and whites on the side of good.
We will definitely be more united as Americans than we are today.
We're more divided now than any other time in the history of America.
But yes, we would have been better had that happened.
I think there would be certainly less division and less resentment.
It's true that this idea that somehow black people can't get ahead because the whole society is just systematically racist.
Racist police officers and racist school teachers and racist judges and all this sort of thing.
It's just the best possible way to teach black people to hate white people.
As a matter of fact, those people who are teaching that kind of hatred are the ones who hate.
They hate themselves.
Black people are taught to hate white officers.
And then when the officer coming in contact with black people and it turned out in a negative way, they blame the white officer rather than blaming the black who acted in the wrong manner when confronted by the officer.
Or if the black person is a criminal or has a criminal record.
They will still blame the cop rather than blaming the criminal.
And so they're the ones who are the haters.
Most cops are not haters.
Most cops are there to do a job, they're there to protect their communities, and they put their lives on the line every day.
So the ones who are accusing them are the real haters.
Well, you know, we've been speaking for no more than about 10 minutes, but everything that you've said runs completely against the conventional view Of liberalism and of what appears to be the majority view of blacks.
Tell me, how are your views received by black people?
And what percentage would you say of black people essentially agree with your view?
It started to grow when I first started out 29 years ago.
It was much less than 10% for sure.
And now it's grown a lot, especially with a lot of young black men and women.
And they're starting to see what I'm saying is true.
And I'm starting to get Phone calls, people call for my radio show or for counseling around the world because they're starting to realize that they have been lied to and if and since they have gone and some of them have gone down the road of the liars and their lives have only gotten worse instead of getting better and they're starting to realize that the problem starts in their homes rather than with white Americans when you go out into the world.
So I'm getting If not 10%, more and more blacks are starting to listen every day.
It's absolutely amazing the men and women that I hear from now that are waking up.
Well, that's good to hear.
Mostly, mostly the kind of view that is conveyed by the mainstream media is of resentful black
people and not just black people, Hispanics and Asians who are perfectly happy to say
that they hate white people, that white people are the cause of everything that's ever gone
wrong in the history of the world practically.
But you say that there is a significant number of blacks these days and particularly young
blacks who don't see it that way and who, as you say, that they should look to their
own house and pull their own bootstraps and stop blaming white people for everything that
ever went wrong.
That's right.
White people are the most, especially, well, all white people, really, are the most hated people or species on this side of heaven.
And it's primarily because white people haven't spoken up.
They've allowed themselves to be accused without defending themselves.
And if you don't love one person, you love no one.
And so the whites that the liberals and the Democratic Party pretend to love, the people of color pretend to love, they really don't love them either.
They just accept them as long as they go along with the lie that it's about race and not about character.
But as soon as one of those whites decides to speak up or say no that that's not true, immediately that white person will be destroyed or become the enemy of the children of the lie.
So all white people are hated.
You see it in Africa, South Africa.
You see it in Europe.
White people It's not right that they hate the whites, and whites are not to blame for their downfall, but they are blaming the whites because whites have been quiet about it for so long.
The real problem is in the home.
It's not with white folks.
Well, it's not just whites are quiet about it.
The white people are some of the main inventors and circulators of these ideas that white people deserve to be replaced in their homelands, or that they have absolutely no standing to criticize people who are not white, that their record is just an utterly unforgivable one all the way back to the beginning of history, probably.
I have a point.
Yes, go ahead.
No, finish the point.
I'm sorry.
Go ahead.
Well, I was going to ask you, why do you think it is that white people, unlike any other group, any other race, are so unwilling to defend themselves?
It's the craziest thing I've ever seen in all my boring days.
White Americans built this country.
If it wasn't for white people, there would be no America.
There would be no Europe.
And they made a constitution here in this country that says that, OK, we're going to invite people of color in.
And the people of color who are here and those who are trying to get here are coming to the greatest country in the world.
If it wasn't the greatest, they would stay where they are.
But the weird thing is that they're coming in And they're accusing the people who allowed them in, who built the country and allowed them in.
And the reason white people are not speaking up, number one, the older generations have been made to feel guilty about the plight of black people.
They believed into that lie that it was white people who kept black people down, it was slavery, racism or Jim Crow, which is not true.
But the whites have believed into that, and as a result, they have not spoken up.
They've given the whining, begging, blaming blacks all they wanted, everything they asked for, not realizing that when you show that kind of weakness, your enemy is going to hate you even more so.
And so now it's at a point where the whites are afraid to speak up because they have to.
If they do speak up, they fear losing their jobs.
their livelihood, in some cases, even their lives.
And then, those who don't speak up, I mean, those who are going along with it, think that by going along with it, that they're going to get along with these people, and they're really not.
They're trying to appease these people in hopes that they can get along with them, in hopes that they can maintain their livelihood, their lifestyle, protect their families, and it just doesn't work that way.
No, I agree with you.
This is just about the craziest thing I've ever seen, also.
Is it crazy?
I've never seen anything like this, Jared.
Yes.
The willingness of white people to just take the blame of the world on their shoulders, to turn themselves into doormats, to welcome people from all around the world into their homelands, even at the risk of becoming a minority.
To me, it's an absolutely astonishing thing.
And as you point out, any white person who says, well, this is crazy, this is wrong, white people have interests of their own.
Then the whole society turns against them.
Have you ever been de-platformed, or have a website attacked, or had PayPal turn against you, or any of these things?
Have a Twitter account taken away, or Facebook say, no, no, you've got to shut up?
Has any of that ever happened to you, Jesse Lee?
Absolutely.
From day one, I have been called every name in the books.
I've been threatened.
I've been shadow banned.
All kind of stuff has happened.
I've been banned from different radio stations and different shows, but I love what's right.
I love God first with my heart and soul and my along with nothing else and I love my neighbor as myself.
I love my country.
This is the greatest country in the world and I feel I am blessed and I feel blessed.
I'm fortunate to be born in America on a plantation in Alabama and I love the freedom that we have here.
We're losing it.
Hopefully, it'll be turned around, but we're losing it.
And there's nowhere else to go.
And even if there were somewhere else to go, I would still fight for this country.
And so, I understand that it's a battle between good and evil, right and wrong, and that it comes in all colors.
The children of the lie who daddy is Satan, and the children of the truth, who daddy is God.
And greater is he that's in those who believe in God than he that knows that believe in Satan.
And so I'm taking it one day at a time.
Loving what's right, being what's right, and doing what's right.
And then God will open up, is opening up when one door closes and another will open.
He's going to get the truth out there as long as you surrender to him.
Well, we certainly hope the truth will get out.
But under the circumstances now in which whites are being turned into the absolute scapegoats
and the villains not only of the past but of the present, I would gather that you would have a certain sympathy with
people like me, whites, who almost just want to wash our hands of the whole thing
and have just a separate society or even a separate part of the nation
where white people can be by themselves.
And not be accused of constantly oppressing other people and constantly benefiting from privilege that they don't deserve.
Do you find this an objectionable way to approach the problem?
Just saying, this problem can't be solved.
This problem of multi-races living together just can't be solved, so let's peacefully separate.
Do you have any objection to that solution?
Well, it's a cowardly way out, because people who want to move into a separate corner don't realize that it's a spiritual battle.
It's a warfare between good and evil.
Lewis Farrakhan wanted to do the same thing with the blacks.
And what the whites don't realize is that if you're lucky enough, or whatever you want to call it, and you had your own half of the country with just yours, And nobody there but white people.
They would turn on each other.
Because if you don't deal with evil, overcome evil, evil would turn on good and good would turn on evil.
So if they had just a white country by themselves, you would still have destruction.
Because it's not about the physical, it's about the spirit.
So the children of the law would still hate those who are of God.
So you just fight each other and kill each other off.
And plus, you know, my son, with my kids, when they're as adults, when they're raw about something, I don't allow them to blame someone else as adults.
As kids, they can do it because adults are responsible for the kids, the parents are.
But when they become adults, and I apologize for the mistakes I made, now it's on you to overcome.
And so I don't allow my kids to whine to me or run away from the issue.
Look, you got to face it and overcome it.
That's the only way you're going to do it.
Uh, I see very little that suggests that the United States can be a nation in which people of different races get along and everybody works for the greater good.
I just see no evidence that we can move in that direction.
Now it is true.
That in all white societies, you do have conflict and you do have different views.
However, yes, yes, yes.
But for example, if you take a place like Poland or Hungary in Eastern Europe, which are still overwhelmingly white, I think that they have every right.
In fact, they even have a duty to their society, to their culture, not to let in immigrants from the Middle East or Muslims or Africans.
Because they're going to end up with the very same problems that the French have, that the Germans have, that the Italians have.
And all of this suggests that nations are going to be better off if they do have homogeneity.
And so far as diversity, so far as I can tell, is a real source of conflict rather than a strength.
Do you think that diversity really can be a source of strength?
The diversity of race and religion and language and that kind of thing.
I think it can.
If people were to overcome evil, it can.
But because I know that most people will not overcome evil and they're going to hate good, it won't have it.
Diversity never works in that way.
That's for sure.
It will not work.
That's why we were one nation under God at one point.
Because one nation means that we have the same language, we serve the same God, we agree on the same values, and that will work.
But when you bring in those who don't have those principles and believe on the same God, it can never work.
The one thing I do want to say is that it's true that white Americans founded this country, and they created the greatest country on this side of heaven, and if they had decided at that point, well, you know what?
We now have the greatest country in the world, I'm not going to let people color into my country.
They have a right to do that because it's their own home.
And so they have a right to let in whomever they want, just as I would have a right to let into my private home whomever I want or my business or on my land.
If I built it and I own it, I have a right to say no or yes to whomever I want.
Well, and so for that reason, By analogy, you would say that insofar as the French or the Lithuanians or the Czechs, they built their country, they have the right to keep out anybody they want to keep out and keep the country entirely to themselves.
You would agree with that?
I would agree with that.
If they built it themselves, they have a right to whomever to let in themselves.
That's up to them.
How would you lose that right to let in whomever you want?
You end up with what's happening in America now.
Americans have lost the right to say who can and cannot come into this country.
And as a result of it, we have people coming from all kind of asshole countries who don't appreciate what we have here.
They don't even like the people here who built the country and invited them.
And I'm not surprised because if they were decent people, their country would be a decent country.
I don't know why they think that those who are letting them in think that, oh, let's bring in all these S.O.
people from an S.O.
country and somehow or another they're going to make this country better.
It's never going to work that way.
No, I find it incredible.
And it seems to me that the people who are proposing that really have the worst intentions for the United States, and I would ask you this.
They're not doing it for the United States, they're doing it for their own personal gain.
They want power and wealth.
They don't care about what's happening to the country.
They don't care if every American gets robbed, raped, or killed by an alien coming in.
As long as that alien comes in and they vote for them, so that they can maintain power and wealth, that's all they care about.
Well, is that why you think black leaders support large-scale immigration?
Yes, for the vote and for the wealth.
They don't care about black people.
They don't care about white people.
They do not care about America.
They care about power and wealth.
And the blacks are no different than those white liberals who are pushing the same thing.
But ordinary black people, I would think a black person living in Los Angeles, Is sick and tired of people coming in who don't speak English, who work under the table.
Ordinary blacks are very much opposed to continuing third world immigration, are they not?
100%.
It's not uncommon now to go into a supermarket, especially in a black community.
It's so crazy.
In a black community, it's not uncommon to walk in a supermarket and hear blacks and Mexicans yelling and cursing each other out.
And you can't understand what the Mexican is saying, but you can hear the black saying, get out of my country!
You're not a legal alien.
Anyway, you shouldn't be here.
They fight amongst each other in the schools, in the workplace, but you don't hear about it because the lying media and the lying race hustlers don't want you to know that the blacks and Mexicans are not united.
They are divided.
Even the Mexicans who are citizens here are falsely accused by the angry blacks of being aliens when they come into contact with each other in a negative way.
Because the blacks can't tell if they're legal or not.
And so they just argue.
Regular blacks are fed up with it.
They just have no help and don't understand how to overcome it.
Well, you know, it's the same for ordinary white people.
Ordinary white people don't want the country slipping away, being transformed beneath their feet.
But just like blacks, they have practically no voice.
There are very few people who are going to stand up and say, yeah, this immigration stuff is changing the country in terrible ways.
So despite the fact that blacks don't want it, whites don't want it, there are even a certain number, substantial number of Hispanics who realize that if the country becomes overwhelmingly Hispanic, they're just going to be right back in Guatemala or Mexico where they came from.
That's right.
We go down to downtown L.A., it's already Guatemala and Mexico and Honduras and it's everything but L.A., California and the United States of America.
It doesn't even look the same.
It doesn't feel the same.
As a matter of fact, you feel a little nervous driving down through downtown L.A.
And I used to love hanging out downtown back in 1968, 69, and 70.
It was really nice down there.
It's no longer that way.
But I do have to tell you, Jerry, white people only have themselves to blame.
They can't blame the Mexicans.
They can't blame the liberals or whomever.
They can't blame the black race hustlers because when you lay down and take it as an adult, it's your fault.
But if you stand up and speak up and deal with it in the right way, then the outcome for you will be fair, it will be right.
But the whites have not taken responsibility and now many of them want to blame other people When it's really their fault.
They're doing just what the blacks have done.
The black normal people have allowed the black radicals to take over, the white liberal radicals
to take over, the National Organization of Women who hate babies, who hate men to take over,
the baby killers or the unborn children to take over, and they all have used blacks for their
personal destruction. Louis Ferrari can't, all of them, and the blacks can't blame anyone but
themselves. I couldn't agree more that white people have entirely themselves to blame.
This is something that we have permitted to happen.
And as you said, it's just this utterly incomprehensible inability for whites to stand up for their own legitimate interests.
And especially with the white men, because men are supposed to be leaders.
They're the head.
They are created by God to be the Christ on earth.
And so white men, as they did in the good old days when America was first founded, when it was formed, when it was the Constitution was created, it was white men who were leading the way, and that's what God intended.
But now the white men are starting to act like white women.
They're whining and begging and being angry and pointing the finger at everyone but themselves.
It's really the men who have allowed this to happen because the women are weaker than the men.
The men are supposed to be the strength of the family of the country.
That's not happening anymore in the white community.
I agree.
Whites are an embarrassment.
White men are a particular embarrassment.
I couldn't agree with you more.
But then if somebody stands up and says, okay, we as white people have certain interests and we as men have to play a certain role in society.
Boy, oh boy, the sky falls on you and Airbnb will decide not to let you use their services or PayPal will take away your account.
YouTube will ban your videos.
I know the beauty of that.
I beg your pardon?
When they take it away, bill your own.
Yes, that's right.
Because if somebody don't want you in their own home, then they have a right to take it away.
And as long as we depend on, or white people depend on Airbnb and somebody else's account to take care of you, they're going to take advantage of you like that.
Build your own.
When they say no, open your own door.
It's just that simple.
Deliverers are not that smart.
They're not smarter than the rest of the folks.
Do your own thing.
Well, it is important, of course, for us to do our own things.
And that's why you have a radio show.
That's why we have podcasts.
But all of these depend, ultimately, on the Internet and this number of private companies that largely determined who gets access to the major vehicles on the Internet.
And, you know, I was being interviewed by a French journalist the other day, and I was complaining about the fact that my books had been banned from Amazon.
He said, what do you expect?
You know, most people don't agree with you.
That's right.
You can't expect them.
You can't expect them to sell your books.
You've got to come up with other ways to let people know about your books.
Stand on the street corner and sell them.
Drive around to your car seller.
There are other ways.
One monkey don't stop no show.
Well, I'm going to ask you another question here.
And this is as we look around the world, we see that different groups do not advance at the same level.
Whether you're looking at Haiti or sub-Saharan Africa or black communities in the United States, you don't have the same level of public trust.
You don't have the same level of advancement, cultural contribution, economic contribution, and that for a number of other reasons.
It leads a lot of people to think that the different races are not, on average, of the same ability.
What is your view on that question?
Well, there are several reasons for that.
Number one, and we don't all want the same thing.
You know, a white person may want the big house on the below of the hill.
I may want the big house on top of the hill.
So I'll work hard to get the big house on top of the hill.
And what you put out is what come back on you.
And it has nothing to do with intelligence of the world, but it's the intelligence of God.
And God has given that to all the mankind, but some have chosen to live in that father state and have a sense of lower intelligence, because the greatest intelligence comes from God.
And believe me, His smartness is greater than the smartness that you can learn in a book or in some school.
And I've totally realized what you put out and what's going to come back on you.
And we all have it in us.
To be as successful as we want or not be successful as we want.
It's really up to the person.
That's why we should never compare ourselves to the Joneses.
Never look at your fellow man and wish you had what they had, or that you would like them, or to do what they're doing.
You have to be you.
And there's nothing like being you.
And never compare yourself to anyone else, because when God created us, he created us all the same.
What happens along the way depends on our parents when we were children, and then on you as you become an adult.
But the trouble is, certainly in the United States, blacks and Hispanics are always comparing themselves to whites.
And they say, we don't have the same amount of money.
We're more likely to be in jail.
We're more likely to be suspended from school.
And this is bad, bad, bad.
And it's all the fault of white people.
And it's ultimately out of self-defense.
White people have to go to the science and say, well, wait a minute.
If blacks do not achieve the same level as whites, maybe it's because, on average, they don't have the same ability.
I believe that there are racial differences in ability.
East Asians are, on average, smarter than white people.
That's why they're more likely to have higher incomes, more likely to get into Harvard and Yale, less likely to be in jail or have illegitimate children compared to whites.
But to say that we're all absolutely the same and that every single difference in achievement is due to some kind of white supremacist society, That constantly puts white people behind the eight ball.
And that's one of the reasons why white people are always on the defensive, always on the back foot.
Whereas if they could say, look, you know, black people, we wish you well, we want you to do as well as you can, but it's not going to end up being the same for everybody because not every group has the same abilities.
That would be a huge step forward.
What it is, we all have different talents.
And they are supposed to come together and work for the good.
And so, my talent may be to do a radio show, for example.
Your talent may be to build a house.
And if we do it with perfect love, my talent will not only benefit me, but it will benefit you as well.
Likewise, yours will benefit me.
But because people are divided between good and evil, there's those who are serving And all evil people think that they're smarter than someone else.
They have to because they're in a fallen state, and they need to feed the ego to make themselves believe that they are better than the next person.
But in reality, we're all the same.
We're built by the same God, and the God that we serve, we're the same people.
If we serve Satan, we're the same people.
If we serve God, we're the same people.
But we do have different talents.
Talibs, and those Talibs are supposed to come together for the good.
The one thing I do want to tell you, it's so interesting in that you do have the blacks blaming the whites, and the Mexican blaming this, and now you're starting to hear the whites blaming the Jews.
And in Israel, when you go to Israel, you have the Palestinians blaming the Jews, and the Jews blaming the Palestinians, and the black Jews are blaming the white Jews.
It happens all over the world, because you have that battle going on between good and evil.
I wish people knew that, or remember, because we used to know at one time, remember that we all have different talents.
And those talents were given to us by God to benefit one another.
And so if they could drop that anger, come back to God, serve Him, you will see the different talents coming out, and you will see them working good between mankind.
Because there will be no jealousy, no strife, no blame, no nothing.
We will all know that it's from God, and we'll be willing to share it.
It is certainly true.
That people love to blame some kind of other group for any reason.
Well, I think that this is another reason why it is better off having a society in which there are no other groups to blame.
In other words, if an all-black society is established, then black people can't go around saying, ooh, the man did this to me.
No, they would blame each other.
They would blame the other blacks.
Well, they might, but at least— No, they will!
Because the only way that can not happen is you have to have all children of God.
And those are the people who believe in God and then become that example and have faith in Him.
They will all have to live in the same corner, whereas the children of the Lamb all have to live in the same corner.
Otherwise, you're going to always have people blaming one another, because good will blame evil, evil will blame good.
Well, Jesse Lee, the fact is, it doesn't seem to me that Christianity and belief in God is actually making much progress in the United States.
You know why?
Well, tell me why.
Because Christians today don't believe in God, they believe about God.
They have read the Scriptures, they quote the Scriptures, but their hearts are far away from God.
They have the intellectual knowledge about God, but they don't have the spiritual discernment and wisdom of God working through them.
And so that's why they have lost power and authority over the world.
Because they're giving it over to the children of the lie, by being deceived that education is the way to go, rather than being taught by the Holy Spirit within.
But even the number who would attend church and who believe about God, as you say, even if they don't believe in God, those people are dwindling in numbers too.
And it seems to me that if we're going to solve our problems, according to you, by everyone turning to God, That's not a realistic solution.
If everybody did have a kind of profound faith of the sort that you describe, and we were acting like, oh, angels here on earth, then we wouldn't have problems of any kind.
No racial problems, no economic problems.
But that seems to me to be a utopian solution.
And it's an increasingly unlikely solution, given the fact that Americans are turning away from Christianity rather than towards it.
You know why that is?
Well, tell me.
The men are weak.
Well, he is.
What you have to realize is that, or I hope you realize is that, there's a spiritual order to life, and that order is God and Christ, Christ and man, man over woman and woman over children.
And men are the Christ on earth.
They represent the Father, the Father God.
And through men, love comes for the wife and the kids, Through men, power comes for the world.
Through men, the rest of the world sees the right way to go.
But when you put out the light of men, then the rest of the world is in darkness and cannot see the right way to go.
The women and children cannot see the right way to go.
Unless the fathers are leading the right way to go.
They have to be it, have faith, and then things would come, would be fine.
But you're still gonna have evil, and you need evil there in order to see that you believe in God.
Because when you overcome evil with perfect love, you can know that it's the God that created you who is helping you to overcome.
But things are not gonna get better for anybody until the men return to their natural state of being.
And the men are being destroyed in their homes by the mothers.
And not all mothers do it.
Not all, not all, not all.
But most.
Because the mothers hate the fathers.
They hate their earthly fathers.
And so when they meet men, they hate the men that they meet.
And the men hate the women because the men hate their mothers.
And you become like what you hate.
You become attracted to what you hate.
And so the men are marrying, living with, or dating their mothers.
And that's why they become little boys.
They can't stand up to mama.
But once they forgive Mama, because Mama couldn't help herself, and forgive the earthly father for not protecting him from the mothers, because the father couldn't help themselves, they were married to the mothers.
And so they become little boys.
But once they forgive them, God will forgive them, and then a new generation will start.
Well, tell me this.
Given your views on the role of men in society, was it a mistake to give women the vote?
Yes, because normally women follow what their husbands tell them, and they know that their husbands are making the right decision, and the women will follow that.
But other than that, if the women are making the decision themselves, once again they are making it in darkness and not in the light.
They need to be guided by their earthly fathers when they're first born as kids, and by their husbands when they become wives.
And it used to be that way.
But we lost it by turning it over to the feminists who said, oh no, men are wrong!
Men are wrong!
I want women right.
I want power.
I want the same thing.
The man's like, okay, go ahead.
And you look at the laws that the women are making now in government.
They're all against family.
They're against men.
They're against marriage.
They're against unborn children.
The world is falling apart because it's been taken over by the women rather than by the men.
God did not create it that way and it's not going to work that way.
Do you think that Donald Trump is of any use in correcting the things that are going wrong with the United States?
Yes!
The Great White Hope!
I call him the Great White Hope!
The Great White Hope is a gift from God.
He is from the old school.
He showed us how to deal with evil in a physical way.
He's showing us how to deal with evil by not cowering down, by not hating.
And he doesn't care if you're black or white, male or female, Mexican, illegal or legally.
If you're wrong, he's gonna deal with it.
If you're right, he's gonna deal with it.
Even if his workers turn and don't do their right job.
Look at Christine.
I mean, Kirsten.
What's that woman's name?
Yeah, Nielsen.
He had to let her go because she's like a Bush representation, right?
She'd like operate the same way they would under George Bush.
She couldn't handle the job that the president demanded that she handle, so he let her go.
He didn't pretend.
He let her go and brought in someone.
Hopefully this guy would do a better job.
And that's the way You have to deal.
You have to be bold, but don't hate.
Be bold, but don't judge because it's a spiritual battle.
And if your parents were not perfect parents, you're not going to be able to handle the issues of life in the right way.
And Donald Trump, I agree with you that I don't think Donald Trump has any kind of, he doesn't make racial distinctions.
No, he doesn't.
their earthly father will also love God and greater is he that's in you than he
that's in the world. I agree with you that I don't think Donald Trump has any
kind of... he doesn't make racial distinctions. No, he doesn't. I think he tries to build an
America that's best for everyone that's here and he wants an immigration policy
that's best for Americans and not best for the people who are trying to get in.
But why do you think that he is so frequently called a white supremacist and a fascist?
Why do they say he's all of those things?
And the beauty about this great white hope is that he even said, I'm a nationalist.
I put my country first.
He made that clear.
The reason that they are calling him that is because in the past, The President is not into that.
He knows who he is.
people names like that. Most white people cower down and don't do the job because
they want to be liked. They don't want to stand up and be right. They want to be
liked. The president is not into that. He knows who he is.
He knows who he understand who he serve. He knows he put the country first
and he's not gonna cower down to the name-calling.
He is a man.
That's why I call him the Great White Hope.
He doesn't give in to the name-calling, and he should be an example for all people who love what's right.
Put what's right first, and stand up and deal with it.
And the people who are calling him those names don't have any real power.
They don't have power.
They only have intimidation, threats, and name-calling.
But with a man who truly has faith, that doesn't work on him.
Well, unfortunately, the people who do think that he's a racist have a certain amount of power.
The media has enormous power in this country, and so do federal judges, for example.
And there have been a number of judicial decisions made that in effect said, this guy has racial reasons for wanting to deny temporary protective status to these people who have been here from Guatemala or Haiti for 10 years or 15 years or 20 years.
He says, no, things have gotten better in their countries and they can go back home.
And they have judges who write decisions saying, no, no, he can't do that because he has this view of race.
There is an enormous amount of power among those people who think that Donald Trump is motivated by some kind of racial animus to people who are not white.
But they don't have power.
If you notice, the president doesn't care what they say.
He doesn't give into the lies.
He's still pushed forward, in spite of the liberal media, the Democratic Party, the right-wing Republicans, the Neva Trumpers.
Look at all the people who, and then the black race hustlers, and then our foreign enemies.
Look at all the people who tried to stop the president so far, and they have not been able to stop him.
In some cases, things haven't gotten done as fast as he would like for them to be done, but they have not stopped him.
He keeps going.
He's like the ever-ready battery.
He just keeps on going.
He doesn't stop.
He doesn't get tired.
He doesn't get mad.
Because the president loved everybody.
He loved what's right.
And because he loved what's right, he's not going to give in to the name-calling and what they say.
And the beauty is, or the darkness is, those people are doing what they're supposed to do.
They're supposed to falsely accuse the good people.
They're supposed to try and stop them because their father, the devil, doesn't want good to control evil.
And so they're going to try to attack him.
But it's up to you to give in to it or not.
Well, I certainly hope that he persists in his goals and that he does keep his campaign promises.
I'm a little bit worried now myself that he will fail in his re-election bid in 2020.
Why?
Why are you worried about that?
Because, well, first of all, there's just the natural organic shift of the electorate, which is becoming increasingly non-white.
According to statistical analyses of the last election, if he had gotten the exact, well, in 2020, if he gets exactly the same percentage of the white vote and the Hispanic vote, the black vote, et cetera, he will not win because the electorate will have become less white and more non-white.
At the same time, I think that there are a lot of people who supported him who are disappointed.
I mean, not one inch of wall has been made.
That's not true.
There has been some wall gone up down by Texas and other areas.
There have been some new wall going up already.
It's gone up.
Okay.
But he hasn't really done anything about these DACA recipients.
He said that he was going to get them, get DACA lifted, and so that the people who were brought as children were not going to have any kind of protective status if they were illegals, but he hasn't done that.
And you know why?
Because, that doesn't mean it's not going to happen, but Paul Ryan and those right-wing Republicans were in bed with the Democrats and supported business to bring in the illegal aliens.
And they were trying to prevent that from happening.
But look at Paul Ryan and others.
Where's Paul Ryan?
He's gone now.
He couldn't handle the truth.
There are other Republicans who have resigned.
Even that guy, McCain, who hated the president, by the way, he's dead.
So God is with the president, and he's knocking out all those who should not be in the way of good.
And if you just be patient and not worry about 2020, but do what you can today, Do right, do your best in this day, tomorrow will take care of itself.
But if you listen to Satan and say, oh, look what's happening, you don't have a chance in 2020, Satan's going to give you the numbers you need to add up, the numbers you need to count, and you're going to start believing that, and you're going to lose, because he's going to convince you that it's not going to work.
But if you do all you can do today, tomorrow will take care of itself.
I wouldn't think about what's going to happen in 2020 at this point.
I would do my best to make sure that this great white hope is re-elected in 2020.
And today really counts.
I don't even know why people get into tomorrow when they haven't really figured out how today is going to work.
That's for sure.
Well, I hope you're right.
And it is true that some of his enemies have passed away, but it seems that for every one of his enemies who dies or leaves politics, There are three or four more who come cropping up like the kind we have in the United States Congress today, many of whom don't just hate Donald Trump, but who seem to hate the United States and white people and white society in general.
But I understand that you have another engagement that you need to get to.
So we're going to have to call it a close now, but I would like to remind my listeners That you are the host of the Jesse Lee Peterson Show, and they can find out more about you at jesselepeterson.com and rebuildingtheman.com.
And that you are the author of a very promising sounding book, The Antidote, Healing America from the Poisons of Hate, Blame and Victimhood.
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