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May 18, 2018 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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Tom Wolfe, RIP
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this edition of Radio Renaissance.
I'm Jared Taylor with American Renaissance, and with me is our regular guest, Paul Kersey.
And today, at Mr. Kersey's request, we are going to talk a little bit about the great American author, Tom Wolfe.
He died in Manhattan from an infection on May 14th at the age of 88.
He's the well-known author of such books as The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test, Radical Chic and Mow Mowing the Flat Catchers, The Right Stuff, And then he switched to fiction novels in 1987 with The Bonfire of the Vanties and then went on to such things as Back to Blood and what was it, I, Charlotte Rampling?
I believe it was.
I, Charlotte Simmons.
Yeah, which is largely about Duke and then what I believe is one of his better books, A Man in Full, which is about Atlanta.
But of all of these, I hate to confess, the only one I ever read was Radical Sheik and Mao Maoing the Flag Catchers.
This was written in 1970.
And it reflects, as really practically all of his books do, a remarkable understanding of American society, including the racial reality.
And again, in 1970, this guy is writing a book about How Leonard Bernstein was trying to raise money for the Black Panther Party and just how exploitative and bullying the Black Panthers were.
Just how much these liberal whites were happy to be humiliated and give money.
And it was Tom Wolfe who coined the phrase radical chic.
It really opened my eyes.
I thought, this is remarkable.
And then mow-mowing the flat catchers is how people like Jesse Jackson are shaking down companies.
In this case, he was really talking about more government welfare bureaucrats.
How just the intimidation, the possibility of being accused of racism was exploited to the full, almost instinctively by these people.
And, as I say, to have had this so clearly worked out in 1970, I think, was really quite good.
But then, when he switched to fiction, he said that his goal in writing fiction was to document contemporary society, pretty much the way Émile Zola did about French society.
And boy, he really documented it with his words.
He had this amazing talent of being able to satirize Modernity.
In a fictionalized manner that it's amazing he got away with what he got away with.
It is amazing.
Of course, it is so easy to satirize.
All you have to do is describe what's happening and it sounds like satire.
You know, one of the best things that he did, though, is in his book, The Right Stuff, which I encourage every listener of this podcast to go out there and pick up.
It's so much better than... It's a fantastic film, mind you, but he noted that the Mercury astronauts were all Midwestern whites.
It's one of the few times you'll ever see anyone who is jotting down their thoughts about the Mercury astronauts and how they were heroes and worshipped by young Americans in that time period in the 1960s.
But he noticed they were all Midwestern whites.
And that's, I think, page 9 or 19.
It's one of the first things he noticed.
He also wrote about Ed Dwight, who was the black astronaut that they tried to force on NASA, which at some point there will be a movie made about him called maybe, you know, he was denied the moon or something about the racist NASA.
That's great.
He was denied the moon.
Mark my word, if I could, If I could, I would call Ed Dwight right now and I would buy the rights to his story.
Because then I could go to Hollywood and I could probably make 15 to 20 times what I paid for the rights.
But no, Tom Wolfe was He was a treasure and it's a sad indictment of us and our side, Jared, that we never were able to have a conversation with him that could come out after his life posthumously.
You know, we'll talk later about some of the lines from Back to Blood that show how well he understood the racial dynamic and what a curse diversity is.
Unlike a number of people who are fairly well-known, in the case of Tom Wolfe, I don't know anyone in our circle who ever knew him, who had any opportunity to discuss these things with him, and yet he clearly was one of us.
He saw the world exactly as we do, but he held himself aloof from anything that was overtly racially conscious, anything that was politically risky.
But by documenting American society with the deftness and with the piercing eye that he did, I think he probably in his own way awakened a great deal of white racial consciousness.
He did a whole lot of good writing those novels.
Boy, that goes without saying, we talked about the movie based on his novel Bonfire of the
Vanities which came out I believe in 1990.
It's hard for listeners, I was born not that far before Bonfire of the Vanities came out.
And has there been a fictional novel in your lifetime that was as celebrated or as critiqued
or as reviewed and as put on this pedestal as the great American novel as the Bonfire
of the Vanities was?
Well, nothing that approaches it in race realism.
That's for sure.
And for those who haven't read it, it's a story about a white guy who gets mixed up in, I believe it starts with a traffic accident and then there are these hustling blacks and these scheming lawyers, Hispanics, everybody's racial angle is in there.
But then, as you were explaining, when they turned it into a movie, they couldn't stick to the book because the book was just too relentlessly race-realized.
They had to have a sympathetic black character, and there wasn't one in the book.
Although, it's important to note that they wanted to make that initial encounter that Sherman McCoy, the great white defendant, has with the blacks.
In the book, it's somewhat ambiguous.
However, in the movie, they make it quite clear that his life was in danger because they wanted to show that no, Sherman actually... you had to sympathize with Sherman McCoy.
And one of the things I hear a lot of people say about the film, and I've read about since Tom Wolfe's passing, is that the movie portrayal of Sherman McCoy, played by Tom Hanks, is far more sympathetic than the book actually makes him out to be.
He is the true...
Definitely the main protagonist of the film.
And I would encourage people to watch it.
I was actually watching it, Jared, on June... I can't remember what the shooting date was.
June 7th, June 8th, June 9th, or June 10th, 2016.
I was watching it the night of the Dallas shooting.
Just serendipitously.
And the person I was watching it with, they didn't quite understand what was going on.
They've never read the book.
And then I got a call from a friend and he said, you've got to go to Drudge right now.
And it was just so fascinating to think about all that had built up to that moment.
And a lot of people say, you know, Steve Saylor, who hero worships Tom Wolf, he came out and said that it was that night that he knew Donald Trump was going to win the presidency.
And in a lot of ways, the past.
We are living in a Wolfian shadow.
American life, as we're about to talk about Back to Blood and read some of these quotes, we are living... The post-American nation that we live in now, in a lot of ways, is exactly what he spent his whole life writing about on a micro level.
That's right.
It's interesting to me that even the publisher of Back to Blood, which was his last novel, described the book as about, quote, class, family, wealth, race, crime, sex, corruption, and ambition in Miami, the city where America's future has arrived first.
Yes, the nightmare has arrived in Miami first.
And one of the lines from Back to Blood is the black police chief of Miami talks about the way white people behave.
He says, was the currently enlightened phrase and white folks uttered it like they were walking across a bed of exploded light bulb shards.
That's perfect the way white liberals have to tiptoe around anything having to do with blacks.
And then one of the characters says, Well, I guess, actually, this is a good quote, too.
The city's mayor, he says, Miami is the only city in the world, as far as I can tell, in the world, whose population is more than 50% recent immigrant.
If you really want to understand Miami, you've got to realize one thing, first of all.
In Miami, everybody hates everybody.
As you say, it's remarkable that a book that contains lines of that kind actually got into print and was celebrated.
This guy's a famous author.
It just goes to show you that there's a certain amount of artistic license permitted even in this crazy, obscurantist society.
And then another, there's a Puerto Rican guy or a Hispanic guy, he says, even in this mess where everybody hates everybody,
and perhaps because of this mess, he says, everybody still has to believe in something.
So that leaves only our blood, the bloodlines that course through our very bodies
to unite us, la raza, as the Puerto Ricans cry out.
Another great line.
And then the last one, there's this wimpy, wimpy beta, he's a gamma, he's an epsilon,
this guy who's the editor of the Miami Herald, He's a fictional character, but I think he's a perfect stand-in for so many white people, especially in a town like Miami.
The way he interprets his job is this.
If the mutts, and by that he means the people of Miami, if the mutts start growling, snarling, and disemboweling one another with their teeth, My job is to celebrate the diversity of it all and make
sure the teeth get whitened.
And you read that and your description of him didn't go far enough.
Really a guy of that nature is the omega of whiteness.
Yes.
And you know he's bringing about the end of it all.
And Tom Wolfe, again, maybe we should even have like an AR book club one of these days where we all read a book, we come back and we talk about it.
Because Tom Wolfe, you go back to those essays he wrote in the 1970s.
You can even talk about The Painted Word.
Or what was the other one he wrote?
From Bauhaus to Arhaus.
Just these incredibly insightful looks and these penetrating analysis of what went wrong in Western civilization.
What happened?
And you wonder, You wonder if he has a manuscript that he had tucked away for when after he died that it was is there a way back because he spent his entire life here's a guy who in the 1980s Jared would go on William F Buckley's
Show on PBS.
Fire in line.
And they would have these very weird conversations.
Buckley is all pretentious, pedantic, pontificating.
And Tom Wolfe sits there and listens intently and then he answers this meandering question William F. Buckley spent two minutes trying to get to the point.
And you realize there's something more beneath the veneer of Wolfe when you watch those interviews.
Anybody who can work insights like this into the written word and get it published in the United States clearly understands.
I think he was entirely one of us, and it's just a pity that none of us knew him.
But if there is a manuscript somewhere in his drawer that really makes things explicit, I suspect his literary executor will burn it.
For our sake, I hope that that does not happen, if indeed there is a treasure that he wanted to come out after he passed.
We'll see.
But then, on to this question of, you know, now there's this huge controversy about the privileges white people have.
And you called this article to my attention, actually, this May 10th article in Quillette, which writes some interesting things, actually, called, Is There Room in Diversity for White People?
And the implied answer to this question, of course, is no.
We are just superfluous.
We are the reason why this diversity has to take place, is to basically get rid of us.
And I'll read you just a few passages from this.
It talks about New York's Hunter College promotes coursework for poli-sci majors in, quote, the abolition of whiteness.
Stanford examines, quote, abolishing whiteness as a cultural identity.
Classes at Grinnell and University of Wisconsin-Madison confront, quote, the problem of whiteness.
Academic theorists crusade to purge whiteness from STEM courses because critical thinking and research are regarded as tools of white hegemony.
Engineering students at Purdue must contend with the school's indictment of, quote, racist and colonialist projects in science.
And there's a UC Irvine professor who says that even technical prowess is no good because it's a white male construct.
And finally, I find this particularly fascinating, UCLA pays students a stipend.
This is students.
To act as professional social justice activists who will diagnose, expose, and combat whiteness and the patriarchy in all campus manifestations.
This is like the Stasi.
These people are paid to be informers.
And that's a public university, mind you.
That's taxpayer money in California going to pay for what you just said, these diversity enforcers.
These people, and you probably don't even know who they are.
You can be in your dorm room, having a chat over a beer, and you've got a guy who is observing you, making sure that you tow the party line.
This is straight out of the worst days of communism.
But all of this is to fight white toxicity.
And in this context, I wanted to point out a wonderful article by a woman whom I consider an absolute national treasure.
I do too.
And that's Heather MacDonald.
In the Spring 2018 issue of City Journal, which is put out by the Manhattan Institute, where Heather MacDonald has worked for years, she has written an article called, How Identity Politics is Harming the Sciences.
And this goes back to this idea of purging whiteness from STEM courses.
But she talks about just the fanatical, slavish attempts to try to get people who aren't even interested in the sciences into all of these technology and science-related courses.
They're all, of course, women and every non-white, every non-Asian.
I mean, Asians are sort of out of this formula entirely because there are plenty of them there, so we don't worry about that.
But she describes the fanatical extents to which this goes, standards of being I consider one of the three or four people that is a must read whenever she puts out something.
I agree.
It's going to be brilliant.
place. I urge every listener to read this great article, How Identity Politics is
Harming the Sciences. I consider one of the three or four people that is a must
read whenever she puts out something. I agree. It's gonna be brilliant. Even the stuff
that somehow slips through the ombudsman at National Review when she does
something for that publication.
Even that's worth reading.
Yes, yes.
She really is wonderful.
I wish her a long, healthy, and continuously courageous life.
But all of this about, you know, whiteness being on the chopping block, white people are the enemy, toxic whiteness, all of this.
Now, think about this.
Bear this in mind when we talk about the next subject.
Which is, namely, all of this talk now about how horrible and awful it is to be black, first of all, but then to be black on a college campus.
And there's a great article in The Nation called, What It's Like to be Black on Campus Today.
No, I'm sorry, on Campus Now.
It was a May 16th article, and it's a project to, quote, document the lived experiences of today's black college students.
Well, I think we can predict what they're going to come up with.
You know, what they're going to predict, what they're going to come up with is exactly what Gregory Hood just wrote in a great article in American Renaissance, which I encourage people to read, and that is about the need to have segregated graduations based upon the insanity that everyone is forced to go through.
during these graduation ceremonies.
I won't ruin the surprise, but please go read that.
You'll love it.
You know, why I wanted us to talk about this and contrast these two is because non-whites marinate in anti-white antipathy in their coursework.
This is the kind of stuff that these public universities with tax dollars are teaching blatant hostility toward whites among the growing non-white population.
And then you look at this compared to this This false narrative that the leftist publications are putting out there about harming black bodies on campuses.
It's like, you know, this is evil.
And see, it's not just blacks who are being taught this.
Whites are being taught this.
Correct.
Here you have the entire university administration telling black people that they are basically the cancer of human history.
And then you have these black people complaining about all of these imagined slights, how horrible and awful it is to be a black man on campus.
Whereas, of course, the administration is constantly saying, we love you, we need diversity.
Without you people, it would be impossible to have a full education.
They must be the most coddled, petted, slobber over black people in the history of the world.
And yet they are now complaining.
And as this article says, On a near-weekly basis, we've shared stories of campuses inflamed by symbolic racism, discursive violence, or bodily harm against black students in predominantly white spaces.
And then they go on to talk about what happened at University of Missouri.
Another completely trumped up, crazy, overhyped thing like Aldi's always are.
And then the business at Yale, of course, and what precipitated the Yale confrontation among blacks was simply one woman putting out an email message saying, well, don't you think that it is a little paternalistic to tell people what they can and cannot wear as Halloween costumes?
Because somebody had sent out a message saying, it's Halloween, but now you guys have to be very careful, no cultural appropriation, no insensitivity.
And she said, look, we're grownups, you know, do we really have to be telling people that, you know, they've got to watch their, if you don't like somebody's costume, tell him.
And that precipitated these enormous, angry confrontations.
But this is another example of the lived experience of black bodies being chastised and chained in white spaces.
And then, of course, another one they're talking about.
They go on to talk about all these horrible things.
This attempt to have the name of the Woodrow Wilson School of Foreign Affairs at Princeton renamed because Wilson was a bad guy.
Well, the university didn't do it.
So this is, again, re-enslaving black people.
This incredible hype and of course this whole graduation thing.
They mentioned this University of Florida graduation problem where this guy was trying to make sure that all of these dancing boogaloo blacks were not going to slow down the graduation for heaven's sake.
Hey, blacks have true freedom.
Literal true freedom in America where any white person who dares impede upon their, hey I just want to have fun mindset is participating in the grossest example of contemporary racism that's only comparable to when the new Klan was born atop Stone Mountain.
That's what anybody who dares interrupt this black behavior in 2018 is party to.
That is the re-manifestation of the third Klan.
That's what we're learning.
That's what this article at The Nation is insinuating.
And this isn't trying to quote crime stats.
It's just trying to keep Blacks from dancing across the stage at graduation.
Well, and it's, you know, they can dance if they like.
They just need to get off stage on time.
Instead, they go up there and they gesticulate and they hoop.
It just slows the process down.
As you're pointing out about the Hood article, you know, we really need to just let them have their own celebration.
If they want to hoop and holler and jump up and down, you know, and do back flips when they graduate, that's just fine.
Let them do their own thing.
But they just can't be slowing down the ceremony for everybody else.
Hood had done a lot of research into similar experiences with high schools, for example.
In high schools, the same thing happens.
The principal will say, okay, hold your applause until the end.
No, no, no.
The black families will shriek and cheer.
The black guys will, you know, do rah-rah stuff.
They've got to get the ceremony over with.
It's funny, that's almost a metaphor for the post-civil rights world we live in, the horror we live in, where every time that a black becomes the first in some endeavor, whether it's the first elected official in some town, the first black marine general, whatever award it is, we have to slow everything down to commemorate this event as if it's some great undertaking.
And we basically retarded civilization, or advancement of civilization, to accommodate As I stated, this metaphor of just dancing as if it's some great achievement when, hey guys, thousands upon thousands of white people and other people have already done that.
What's to celebrate?
Their justification, of course, is that graduation rates have always been lower for blacks, that blacks face obstacles over and over again in life.
They don't have the same resources, the same role models as whites, and so it's natural for them to celebrate in an exuberant way when they have graduated.
Of course, nobody ever points out black people in church celebrate in a very exuberant way things that white people consider to be rather formal and solemn expressions of faith, for example.
There is just a natural wish to express oneself uninhibitedly among blacks,
and I think it goes across the board.
But they're always making excuses as to why they deserve to take up time and call attention themselves
because of all these obstacles they've had to face growing up.
So again, as Hood says, then let them go their own way.
Let them have their own celebrations, that'll be just fine.
Now, another point I wanted to make, this article in The Nation pointed out
that all of these terrible things that blacks have been suffering on campus
have real psychological impact.
A black student at Yale who was talking about this business about Halloween costumes
and the idea that it might be okay for people to choose their own Halloween costumes,
he says, I have friends who are not going to class, who are not doing their homework, who are losing sleep,
who are skipping meals, and who are having breakdowns on account of this controversy.
Good grief!
And we're supposed to be sympathetic to this.
And this reminds me of The black students at the University of Virginia, where the Unite the Right rally took place last August, nine months ago.
There is an article in The Nation, May 17th, about, and I'll quote from it, black students at UVA are still grappling with the trauma of witnessing a massive demonstration of racism so close to home, and many question if the university is doing enough to help them cope.
Eight support groups were offered to students.
Eight!
Eight support groups.
Students who were present at the Rotunda on the night of August 11th, that's when the tiki torches were out and there were apparently a few students around, were also, in addition to the eight, given the opportunity to participate in a group crisis intervention facilitated by a crisis response team trained by the National Organization for Victim Assistance.
But this is not enough.
Devin Willis, a black student, says, and I quote, although the university offered immediate crisis support, that support was not appropriate for the long-term challenge of addressing racial trauma.
And it's all the university's fault.
Now, again, I ask you to contrast this with the daily atmosphere that whites are living in, in which they are talked about, in which people talk about toxic whiteness, abolishing whiteness.
The university itself is doing this.
Well, not only the university, it's state-sponsored racial trauma that they're trying to bring about on whites to guilt them, to hammer them down into massive submission, psychologically disable any ability for them to articulate an opposition to what's happening.
And then when something does happen, like the Ill-conceived Unite the Right rally, which I was 100% against when it happened.
Everything that I worried about transpiring did.
And I encourage anyone who is considering participating in the second attempt to do this, please do not do it.
Please look at the mistakes of 2017 and let's not engage in them anymore.
How hard is that to do?
Anyways, off the soapbox.
My main point is this, Jared.
You look at the way that that incident has now enabled this coddling, this extreme coddling, already on top of coddling that's going on on college campuses, and you just have to wonder...
Not only where this is going to end, but in comparing and contrasting, how volatile is the language going to start getting in, say, 2020, 2022, when it comes to this abolishing whiteness?
There's another aspect to this.
Ralph Ellison, the black man who wrote Black Like Me, this is back, I believe, in the 1950s, early 60s.
It goes back a long way.
He had no time for this kind of whining.
And in those days, there was legal segregation.
There were all kinds of obstacles to blacks.
He said, this whining really makes black people look like weaklings.
He said, okay, so what if they're obstacles?
You know, you buckle down and you get over them.
But this idea that the fact that those tiki torches were out there nine months ago is still an excuse for trauma not doing well.
That, to me, has to do with the mismatch that affirmative action produces.
I suspect that in many cases blacks are looking for some kind of excuse because they're not doing well in school.
And they can walk in and say, oh I'm still traumatized by the tiki torches.
And okay, okay, you can do an open book exam because you're a poor black who's been traumatized.
Well we saw this at the Air Force Academy, at the Air Force Academy Prep School.
The black guy wasn't doing that well, what does he do?
He writes a message on his whiteboard that, you know, the n-word, blah blah blah, it becomes a national story.
The Air Force General in charge of that school gets awarded something from the, was it the ADL or something?
I don't remember what organization it was, in fighting hate, even though it was fighting fake hate.
Yes.
Nope.
And it's so often.
I mean, this goes all the way back to one of my favorites, Sabrina Collins.
This is back in the 1970s at Emory University.
This is a woman who was one of the first sort of wolf callers on campus.
She rolled up into the fetal position and was incapable of moving because of all this trauma, which turned out to be complete fake.
Well, she just didn't want to take her final exam.
That's what it all boils down to.
When it comes to these poor black students who have been traumatized by racial events on campus, the Nation quotes Yuma Thomas of the Association of Black Psychologists.
She says, Access to mental health care is imperative for black people to deal with race-related trauma in a healthy way.
And she also says they should get counseling from black therapists, like her of course.
She adds, we need to work with the faculty on making sure we provide the necessary pedagogy to be supportive to individuals of color in the classroom and infuse that into the curriculum.
So not only do we have to have black therapists, I mean more jobs for the boys, But also, we have to infuse blackness into the curriculum so that black people can compensate for or deal with the terrible trauma of being black on campus today.
It's just extraordinary the excuses that they are prepared to make.
If I were a smart, ambitious black person, I'd be embarrassed by this stuff.
I'd be genuinely embarrassed.
And I bet there are a few.
But nobody's going to interview them.
Nobody's going to interview a black guy who says, stop whining, buckle down and study.
This happened nine months ago.
Get over it.
If I were a smart, ambitious black individual, regardless of sex, I would say something conservative and then have a job for life with a conservatism bank.
There you go.
Yep, yep.
You'd have a job for life.
And this leads us to the other thing that has become very, very popular now.
The idea that white people are always calling the police on black people who are doing absolutely nothing at all.
And the theory, of course, is that here you have a black person who's doing something that white people do all the time, but white people see them, and because they're black, they call the police.
Now, there was an NPR interview on May 15th with a fellow named Jason Johnson.
He's a professor of politics and journalism at Morgan State University and political editor at The Root.
And I needn't speculate as to what race he is.
But he said this.
You have a lot of white Americans who basically feel that anyone who is not white is sort of there for their entertainment.
So if I don't want them there, I control the space and their bodies and I'll use the police to do it.
And they feel that the police are there to work as their personal racism valets and remove black people from the situation.
Really, what kind of talk is this?
As if white people are looking around, oh, I just don't want a black person here.
And I'm going to call the police and they'll be my personal racism valet and we will remove this guy.
And I actually heard this interview on NPR.
I sometimes listen to NPR because it's interesting to know what the libs are drinking with their mother's milk.
And of course the white interviewers are saying, oh yes, oh yes, oh yes.
Then he goes on to say, What needs to happen is people who make malicious prosecution calls on black people need to be fined.
I think if people started suffering consequences for this kind of behavior, you'd see a drop in these kinds of phone calls.
You know, two thoughts real quick, Mr. Taylor.
A, I wonder what personal racism valets make after taxes.
Those are police officers.
They're on the public payroll.
They're your personal racism violators.
If you see a black person in some place and you don't want him, you just call the police and they will remove him.
Don't you understand?
Excuse me, officer.
There is a negro over there.
We need him to be removed immediately.
Is that what this guy thinks these calls are happening?
That's what he appears to think.
And again, this goes back to the classes that we're seeing pop up all across the country, universities and colleges, where every Incident of blacks behaving badly is blamed on white people.
So that, of course, goes to the next generation when these students go into their professional lives.
Some of them have gone on and gotten their PhDs and then they're able to dictate social policy and given a platform on NPR and at the corporate-funded The Root.
You know, it's funny, Jared.
The Root is a website not that far off from American Renaissance, although it enjoys corporate funding from companies like Johnson & Johnson.
And Walmart, they all splash ads on that website.
And my second thought to this is there's no cost to white people who call 9-1-1 about blacks.
There should be.
Compare and contrast that to the hate crime map that you guys have.
Compare and contrast it, just real quick.
Think about how many incidents American Renaissance has documented on that fantastic map, where the media immediately jumped on this idea that, say, a Muslim had their hijab ripped off.
The fake hate crimes.
The fake hate crimes, exactly.
And that becomes national news, another opportunity to beat white people down with this invisible
baseball bat of anti-white hate.
And then it turns out that, hey, you know what?
You were swinging with a fake bat there.
It doesn't matter.
The consequences, we never really hear about how, well, we have actually heard that the
legal system will maybe do a slap on the wrist, maybe probation occasionally, sometimes they'll
let them off without any repercussions at all when they're claiming these hate, these
fake hate crime hoaxes.
But to actually have white people, to actually put this out as a legitimate idea to debate, that really shows you where the left is going to almost make it illegal to be white.
Well, you just read the headline from this Washington Post article.
In other words, there's no cause to white people, but there should be, when they call 9-1-1.
It's by two black professors.
And it's quite incredible to me, their self-righteousness, their contempt for whites.
They say, when white callers dial 9-1-1 and report that black people are engaging in what they report as untoward behavior, The worst case scenario is that the police will show up with guns blazing.
Even in the best case scenario, black folks will probably have to deal with the trauma of having been placed in mortal fear.
Does this guy really believe this?
Does this guy really believe that when a black person encounters a police officer, he is automatically in mortal fear?
This stuff is just completely nuts.
In fact, these two, and this is the Washington Post.
The Washington Post publishes this stuff.
He says, calling the police on black people for non-crimes is a step away from asking for a tax-funded beatdown, if not an execution.
Good grief!
Again, does this guy really believe this?
These are people who are teaching in universities.
They're telling their students, if you call 9-1-1 on a white person, that's almost like calling for a state-funded execution of a black person.
Good grief.
And then here, they're mind readers.
I love this kind of mind reading stuff.
They say, this is about repression, projection, the sublime pleasure of anti-black racism.
And the result, too often, looks like a return to the Jim Crow era.
For these callers, as for many white people during segregation, racism is a great source of enjoyment.
I mean, do these people who have made calls, are they just thrilled and joyful?
I'm sure the idea that they are just having a whooping great time calling the police because they think that a crime is being committed, is about to be committed, No, these black people say, oh, this is a great enjoyment to them.
And so this guy says, okay, they need to be punished.
When they make a call like this, they've got to be punished.
And then, just to top it all off, and it takes a white man to come up with this idea, a fellow named Rex Hupke, writing in the Chicago Tribune on May 11th, he says, I think black people should be allowed to call the police on white people who look like they might call the police on black people.
Well, I mean, you've heard the joke that, you know, sometimes you're driving in the street and you see someone walking towards you, you're a little worried, you lock your car door just to feel safe, to add that added security.
I mean, again, we're reaching a point, going back to Hood's concept of we should have separate graduations.
I mean, where do... how can you even have any... Let me rephrase this.
Where is commonality found when you look at this type of mindset where personal racism valets is an actual term being utilized in a national public radio broadcast and not laughed off the stage.
Without the slightest objection from the interviewer.
The police are your personal racism valet.
They're to do your bidding to remove black bodies that might offend you just because they're there.
No, there's just no commonality.
There is no commonality.
And it really makes, I think, more and more white people utterly give up on the idea that there's any hope of living together with black people.
And there was, of course, this great hullabaloo about a barbecue that a black person was having with a charcoal barbecue they brought to the park in Oakland.
This whole great long story.
You pointed this out to me also.
A great long story about how the black person was all offended.
No, this is okay.
And made a huge stink about it.
Just berated this poor white person.
Videoed the whole time.
The white person is in tears trying to walk away.
This poor white woman who says, look, you're not supposed to use a charcoal barbecue here.
Well, turns out you're not.
The law says you're not supposed to do that.
And they buried it.
It went so fast with this story.
It was on drudge.
It was made to feel that, oh my gosh, once again, how come all these white people are calling the police on blacks?
Why are they reporting them?
This is such an example of implicit bias and structural reason, whatever.
But then in the story you read, clearly they were in a part of the park where you're not
allowed to have a charcoal grill.
Charcoal grills, those can be very dangerous.
They could, a single spark could create a fire.
I mean, it's a hazard.
All this white woman was doing was trying to maintain some level of civilization.
And she didn't call the police.
She just said, please don't do this.
And she was talking about calling the police.
In any case, this is yet another example of white people masterminding the removal of black bodies.
What rule of Darbyshire's rules does that violate?
I'm trying to think back to which one that would have...
Not to be a good Samaritan, I guess?
Well, no, this is not a good Samaritan.
No matter how out of line blacks are, don't call them on it because it could come back and bite you.
I think a lot of white people feel that way.
If they see young black children misbehaving, roaring up and down the subway car and the buses, they're not going to move a muscle.
If it were whites, they'd say something about it, but they're afraid they're going to get a shiv between their ribs if they say anything to black people.
No, I think many people are quite terrified.
They back away if they see black misbehavior, whereas they might step in and do something if whites are doing it.
But, so all of this, all of this about white people who are allegedly calling the police when black people are doing nothing at all, I can't help but contrast this with a story from May 14th in Asbury Park Press, very much a local story, in which in Freehold Township, New Jersey, Jamil, J-A-M-I-L, Hubbard, age 25, has been charged with attempted murder and first-degree bias intimidation against a fellow by the name of Walkowicz.
He attacked him from behind, punched him in the head and face, then dragged him to the parking lot and drove his car over Walkowicz.
Then he stole Walkowicz's car.
Now, the police have charged this guy with aggravated first-degree bias intimidation because he appears simply to have attacked him because he was white.
Now, this is just a small item in the local paper.
We have coast-to-coast coverage of these black people who were loitering in the Starbucks.
The police get called on them.
Absolutely no harm done to them.
This poor guy named Wolkowicz, he is still in the intensive care unit.
But no, this is a tiny local item.
All of these ambiguous situations in which whites are accused of racially profiling blacks, this is coast-to-coast news.
A real attempted murder, clearly racially biased, at least according to police findings so far, is utterly ignored.
Well, at your alma mater a couple weeks ago there was an international incident where a black A student of Yale was studying.
Apparently she fell asleep in a common area.
A white woman came out and they called the cops on her.
She called the cops because, hey, why are you sleeping in a common area?
What's going on here?
And this became yet another opportunity to lecture at white people.
It's not a dialogue.
It was a monologue.
How dare this white student represent, or no, this white Yale student represented all
white people everywhere and it was an example of abrasive, intense racism that will not
go away unless it's called out and confronted.
See, again, I don't know the details of that story well enough to really have any knowledgeable
commentary on it.
How often is it that people fall asleep in common rooms?
I just don't know.
The fact that she was black, how was she dressed?
Was she dressed like a bag lady?
Of course, students these days all dress like bag ladies, so maybe that doesn't make any difference.
When's the last time she took a bath?
I don't know what the circumstances were.
But apparently, this white woman was upset.
I just don't know the details.
Now, maybe, maybe it was an overreaction.
I don't know.
But an overreaction makes you a national pariah for weeks to come.
And yet, again, this black guy who attacks a white guy, nearly kills him, completely ignored.
Completely ignored.
The contrast of this is absolutely staggering.
Now, you're usually the guy who is very interested in popular culture, but this was a story that jumped off the page at me.
This is Spike Lee's latest movie, and it's called Black Klansman, spelled B-L-A-C-K, K, K, Klansman.
So there are three Ks in the middle of this Black Klansman.
And it is based, it's a fictional account, based loosely on a fellow named Ron Stallworth, who was the first black in the Colorado Springs, Colorado police force in the 1970s.
And apparently, in 1979, he joined up with a white detective to infiltrate the KKK.
And they did it in an interesting sort of way.
Apparently, it was the black guy who, exercising his great talents at code switching, called up a local KKK organization and pretended to be a white guy and wanted to join up.
And when they actually came time to meet with the KKK, he sent this white guy instead.
Now, I don't know why the black guy was the telephone contact, but the white guy was the face-to-face contact.
In any case, they apparently managed to find that there were a number of active-duty soldiers who were part of this Colorado Springs clavern And they were reassigned or they were punished in some way.
That was the extent of what they achieved by doing this.
But according to the movie's description, it says that this white guy and black guy together, they team up to take down the extremist hate group as the organization aims to sanitize its violent rhetoric to appeal to the mainstream.
Oh boy, isn't that dangerous?
You know, they're trying to appeal to the mainstream.
Now, apparently this movie earned a prolonged standing ovation at the Cannes Film Festival when it debuted just last Monday.
And interestingly enough, apparently Spike Lee had finished the movie before the Reunite the Right rally in Charlottesville.
And when he saw that, he says, oh, I'm going to have to add this to the movie.
So they tack that on at the end, a lot of this Tiki Torch stuff, and they also include Trump saying that there were fine people on both sides.
And this is an example of just how wicked and awful Donald Trump is.
Nobody ever brings up anymore the fact that he strenuously condemned any kind of hatred or white supremacy.
He did all the things he was supposed to do, but he did say that there were fine people on both sides, and that he will never live down.
That he will never live down.
Well, tell us about this press conference he had at Cannes.
You saw the film of that, right?
I did.
I saw the film.
I saw the film.
This, of course, is a celebratory moment.
Spike Lee has made a number of bombs recently.
This is his grand reintroduction to high society with this film to really go after President Trump and, of course, all the supporters.
And at this formal press conference at the Cannes Film Festival, he called Trump, quote, a motherfucker.
End quote.
And the press coyly called these profanity-laced statements.
But they weren't profanity-laced statements.
It was exactly how I think so many of these hysterical anti-Trump people feel.
Again, they will Strenuously believe that Trump is a white supremacist.
They live in this alternate reality where he was the one who coordinated the Unite the Right rally.
Exactly.
Exactly.
And this is, again, you know, I was very surprised to see that this isn't some sort of a spur-of-the-moment, impassioned statement by Spike Lee.
He's sitting there in a formal, behind a desk, in the middle of a panel.
And this is a deliberate, slow explanation of what he thinks.
And he not only calls Donald Trump a motherfucker, he uses this MF word over and over and over again.
It's the most appalling string of expletives and obscenities I think has probably ever taken place in an entire con festival and maybe in any kind of press conference.
But of course, because he's a black man, he is just expressing the righteous rage of those who are victims of Well, again, because the movie is supposed to show that in light of what these guys tried to do, they were unable to stop these hate groups from sanitizing their rhetoric.
And look what it manifests in with the Charlottesville Unite the Right rally.
That's exactly right.
The poisons that were already flowing through the body politic in the 1970s continue to flow today.
And I don't know, I have no idea whether this is going to be anything like the success that our Wakanda narrative was.
It's not.
This movie is going to come and go very quickly.
I will predict this.
It will come and go very quickly.
The press loves it.
The people who frequent and attend this film festival, this is catnip for them.
But you know what?
Look what movie bombed a couple years ago.
The story of Nat Turner, Birth of a Nation, that they tried to make.
I think that was in 2016.
The movie bombed.
No one went to see it.
And that was a glorification of a guy who actually went out there.
A race war film.
It was nothing more than a race war film.
Well, we'll see.
You have your finger on the American cultural pulse far more sensitively than I could ever hope to do, so perhaps you're right.
But here is an article from Showbiz, dated May 14th.
And it points out that Spike Lee made this movie to show that racism, antisemitism, it all existed as it does today the same way 40 years ago.
That we're just as sick as ever.
Then, here's a quotation.
He calls it, quote, a movie of staggering social significance.
That Lee even thought of it and connected all the dots shows a great filmmaker who's been with us for three decades bringing a masterwork to life.
Now, the guy, he's taking an incident from the 1970s and tying it to the present?
This is a work of genius?
I mean, it seems to me that this is just the kind of hype that could turn this into success.
Now, I suppose the question is whether black audiences are going to have parties and go to it, and whether black millionaires are going to rent out The Black Panther film had a lot going for it that this film does not do.
But we will see, at least in showbiz, they are already giving this to Black Panther treatment.
They are, but again, the Black Panther film had a lot going for it that this film does not do.
Why would blacks want to go watch a movie that wasn't all about them?
Remember, Black Panther, they claimed it was this great diverse movie.
The cast was almost 90%, 95% black.
It was just blacks celebrating.
Well, I don't know.
It is true.
It's not an all black cast.
One of the main figures is a David Duke character.
That's his name, David Duke.
And there's a white guy named Topher Grace who plays David Duke.
And I tell you, I looked at the trailer.
Have a look at the trailer, ladies and gentlemen.
It's quite interesting.
And this guy looks so much like photographs of the young David Duke.
It's uncanny.
You might very well think it is Duke himself playing this role.
Yeah, Topper Grace, he's somewhat of a big name.
I mean, it'll be an interesting film to see what type of box office numbers it does initially.
It will serve the purpose of, once again, allowing editorial boards across the country to editorialize against Trump, those who attend the Unite the Right rally.
And white people in general.
That's right, that's right.
It'll be a great opportunity to attack... Oh, by the way, this is going to be released, according to Spike Lee, on the one-year anniversary of the Unite the Right rally.
That is the date they've chosen for the release.
So mark your calendars, ladies and gentlemen.
Be the first on your block to go see this wonderful movie.
Oh, by the way, in connection with all of this, I meant to mention this earlier, in connection with the idea that white people are no longer supposed to call 911 in the case of some kind of potential black miscreants or actual black misbehavior or criminality, I suspect that there are going to be some whites who are not going to call 911 when they should.
And this reminds me of an incident that I hope readers can track down for me.
I remember some years ago, probably about 10 or 15 years ago, it was a case in New York City in which a woman was invited up to an apartment by a black person.
And she knew in her bones that this was a bad idea, and yet she went up with him because she thought to herself, no, no, I'm just reacting to racist stereotypes, and I must not react to racist stereotypes.
She was raped and beaten.
Do you remember?
It was actually Atlanta, Georgia.
Are you sure?
I thought it was New York.
It was Atlanta, Georgia, and she...
I think she might have been a doctor.
She might have worked for the CDC.
She was a very well-established member of her profession.
And it was a condo.
And she was trying to sell the condo.
And a black guy wanted to look at it.
And the doorman said something.
Are you sure?
We're not sure if this guy actually has any money.
And she said, no, no, no.
I don't want to give that impression.
I remember this because this was like in 2007, 2008.
The late, great Larry Oster wrote about this.
View from the right.
I remember this distinctly because I think I know what building it was in too.
Well, very good.
I should have had faith in you, Mr. Kersey.
I can't remember her name.
You think it was in Atlanta?
I could have sworn it was in New York.
No, I'm quite confident it's in Atlanta.
You know what?
I'll send you the story when we're done here so you can take a look at it.
Because it is one of those very important lessons that, I'll tell you what, if we are victorious in defeating this egalitarian world order, that will be a case study that students have to learn about.
That's right.
And I think all this stuff about calling 9-1-1 and how that's so bad, we're going to have similar incidents in which somebody knew that this was a dangerous situation but said, I can't be one of those wicked white people who calls on my personal racism valet.
Better not do that.
And then ends up being murdered, ends up dead.
Well, she was an Eloy, and that was actually one of the main concepts that Auster had.
Morlock's Eloy from the time machine.
Yes, she was an Eloy.
Exactly.
Anyway, well, we have hardly any time left, and we were going to get into reader questions.
We never seem to have quite the time we need, but we'll save the reader questions for a few, maybe next time.
Some of these are really quite good questions, but I did want to end up with a foreign story about Canadian history.
As you probably know, Canada, just like Australia did with aborigines, the Canadians would take children from American Indian and Eskimo tribes and put them in boarding schools and try to teach them Western civilization so they would fit in, so they could succeed.
Well, now this is viewed as an enormous national crime.
They were deprived of their culture and their heritage, etc, etc.
And now courses are being taught on this and all you need to do is talk about residential schools.
Residential schools, that's the phrase that invariably means these schools that were set up for indigenous people, for Indies and Eskimos to help them.
In any case, Mount St.
Vincent University in Halifax, Canada It was in a controversy after it assigned a white person to teach a course in this.
And this has caused a huge controversy because the decision to assign what's called a settler scholar.
That's what they're being called now.
And remember, whites in South Africa are referred to as settlers.
Yes, one bullet, you know, a bullet for the settler, a bullet for the boor, you know, they're settlers now.
This is a kind of historical appropriation and reinforces the systemic oppression of First Nations.
Critics are saying that only indigenous peoples have the lived experience to understand the complex and cumulative ways they've been discriminated against and they should teach their own history.
Well, there's a panacea to the problem of whiteness, and that's just to get rid of white people.
And these type of stories where there is no morality that exists for whites to even push back when they're in any form of academic power or bureaucratic power.
Because at the end of the day, they don't want to jeopardize their pension, whatever it is, they don't want to upset the apple cart.
When you look at the stories we've talked about today, obviously the end goal of the egalitarian world order, the panacea to the problem of whiteness, is the abolition of whites.
That's right.
The solution will be our disappearance.
And no solution is possible while we're still around.
Seems pretty clear to me.
And at this point, apparently, the white person who was assigned to teach this has not been replaced, but Elizabeth Church, the vice president and provost at the school, says they are hunting like mad for an indigenous person to teach the course.
I suspect she'll succeed.
They'll find a willing line of individuals to fulfill that role.
Hey, while we're on the subject, send us your questions.
We'll get to them next week.
You can send questions.
Anything you want to ask, we'll address it.
Not necessarily.
You can ask anything, we might not address it.
We'll at least look at it.
Send your questions to sbpdl1 at gmail.com or you can go to amrin.com at the contact us, the contact us button and just send us your question.
And what we're finding, I'm pleasantly surprised that there seem to be so many listeners who do have questions that we'd like to take up.
And again, we had planned to do so on this occasion.
Maybe we could devote a whole podcast just to answering these questions.
We'd love it!
You know what?
I would love that because we do have a number of questions.
I think we didn't get to a couple last week.
So again, sbpdl1 at gmail.com.
Send them to me or you can send them to Mr. Taylor by going to amren.com and then the Yes, the Contact Us button.
Well, Mr. Kersey, thank you so much for coming into the studio.
It's always a pleasure, and we'll see you next week.
Hey, our time is up.
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