Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the latest edition of Radio Renaissance.
It's always my pleasure to welcome to the studio our indefatigable and inimitable guest, Paul Kersey.
And, as usual, we have a week that has just been chock-a-block with one fascinating development after another in the world of race and race relations and immigration.
And in one of those stories that seems to be kind of at the intersection between those two things, race relations and immigration, we just got the news that an illegal alien has, for the first time, gotten a California state-level appointment.
And apparently, it was the California Senate President Pro Tem, Kevin de Leon, and it's spelled with the accent in the Los Angeles Times, Leon.
He appointed someone named Lisbeth Mateo to the California Student Opportunity and Access Program.
This is known colloquially as CALSOAP, S-O-A-P, and she is on the Project Grant Advisory Committee And she will be on the Student Aid Commission, whose job is to increase college access for students from low-income or underserved communities.
Which, of course, means non-white communities.
Exactly.
And illegal immigrants, probably.
Because, yes, I was going to say precisely that thing.
So, frankly, I wanted to know just a little bit more about this organization, this CALSOAP.
And there are two official websites for it.
Both, curiously enough, were down.
I hunted several times today.
CalSOAP is lying low.
But very clearly, the idea is to make things easier financially for non-whites and probably illegal immigrants to attend California universities.
Now, Lisbeth Mateo, the new appointee, she is a lawyer, and some years ago it was a bit of a stink when California decided that illegal immigrants could be permitted to pass the bar.
Do you remember that?
I do, I do.
Yes, but now that seems to be utterly non-controversial.
Next thing you know, they'll be voting.
Next thing you know, they'll be running for governor.
In any case, she has a state appointment.
And she came to the United States illegally from Mexico when she was age 14.
And she was brought here by her parents who were also illegal immigrants.
So this is the typical American success story these days.
This is the new American dream.
Yes, yes, yes.
This is how it does.
Now, and she was, when she was thrilled by this appointment, she was quoted in newspapers
as saying, While undocumented students have become more visible in our
state, they remain underrepresented in places where decisions that affect them are being made.
Now isn't that just tragic?
When you come here illegally, there are just not enough of them in decision-making and governmental organizations.
Fancy that.
Well, this sad deficit of illegal immigrants in position of authority is being cured.
Well, this is one of those great moments where we actually get to see the pronouncements by Democrats that illegal aliens are more American than we are.
Put into place.
Put into action.
And this is... We're going to start seeing more and more and more of this in states that are already within that post-American phase where Western civilization has been supplanted with... I don't want to talk about identity politics because I actually... You know, when you hear right-wingers or conservatives talk about identity politics, they do that to denounce this.
I actually am a fan of identity politics.
That's why our listeners are listening to American Renaissance, the preeminent organization that advocates on behalf of the beleaguered white population of not just the United States but also across the world.
I couldn't have put it better myself.
But I just I want to say this.
Yes.
This whole situation, I mean, I haven't been to California since 2009 and I had a friend who recently relocated out of San Diego because he's just like, look, you can't live here anymore.
The expense is too great.
The taxes are too onerous.
I mean, you're at a point now where you're not going to have any Republicans.
eventually in the state legislature and then they'll overturn a lot of the good rules that actually protect
property taxes on private property from being too outrageous.
Prop 13, yes.
That's right, and at some point that will be overturned as individuals like this begin to realize they can control the
government.
They can dictate whatever to ensure that a good quality of life is accessible for low-income and undeserved communities.
Thanks to gringos.
Not undeserved.
Underserved.
Underserved.
There's a difference.
You're right.
There is a good difference.
Yes.
Get that straight, Mr. Kersey.
There you are.
But yes, this is the future, certainly in California and any other state that goes overwhelmingly brown, the way this one is heading.
Now, it's fascinating to me who this De Leon character is.
He is going to challenge the incumbent senior senator of California, Senator Dianne Feinstein.
And at the state's annual convention, I believe that was in January if I'm not mistaken, just recently, the delegates actually voted For him over her.
This is astonishing.
You have a sitting senator who is, she's been in there since, well, maybe 15, 20 years now.
She's been there a long time.
And the progressive wing votes for this young Mexican guy, and the vote was 54% to 37%.
If De Leon had gotten 60%, he would have automatically been the candidate, for heaven's sake.
She was nearly unhorsed by her own party.
It's just extraordinary.
This is the rising star.
Now, she has $10 million, he has half a million.
And so, she may do pretty well when it actually comes to voting.
But she could have been out of a job because the Democrats have decided they don't want old white women, they want young brown men.
Well, this is still a problem that a lot of Democrats are worried about come the election.
Will both of the candidates run?
Obviously, I don't know.
It's a primary system, I believe.
It's this jungle primary.
People of all parties run.
That's right.
So the big question is, will they cannibalize one another?
The future is now in California.
We know that the politics So if you want to know what the politics are going to be like in Georgia or in Illinois or in Indiana in 20 years, maybe for Georgia and Illinois in 10 years based on demographics, but middle American countries, as every city in the country becomes a border city, just look at California.
That's right.
The demographics there are endless.
I've kind of been thinking about this and what the Democrats are doing by keeping the borders open.
It's demographic warfare by other, it's warfare, how did I put it?
It's warfare by demographic means.
Obviously there's not going to be a shooting war, it's just demographic warfare.
You supplant the native indigenous American population with an endless supply of potential voters who, as we see in California, guys it is, it is, it is It's incumbent upon all of us to understand that this type of story is not that far off from playing in a city like Indianapolis.
I mean, it's crazy the trajectory that we're on.
Well, and this just goes to show you the interests that this Kevin DeLeon has.
He is unabashedly appointing an illegal immigrant to a state commission.
This proves, if we needed any further proof, that he thinks illegal immigrants are absolutely as American as the rest of us.
I'm sure he would add an amnesty to every last one of them, at least so long as they're Mexican.
And this is the guy who is the rising star in the Democratic Party who could unhorse Dianne Feinstein and represent California Senate.
We'll see what happens.
I can guarantee you that he would not treat white South Africans who are trying to cross
the border illegally.
There's that classification for illegal aliens that the ICE catches, OTM, Other Than Mexican.
And I'm sure that if it turns out that there were 1,000 to 2,000 white South Africans who
somehow made the trip from Cape Town, got through Mexico City and traversed and got
in, they would make a big deal out of this.
And there would be liberals all across the Western world who would say, good for you.
Well, you know, the motto would be, no amnesty for racists.
I'm sure that's the one they would come up with.
Interesting that you mentioned South Africa.
You know, Australia's Minister for Immigration and Border Protection, a fellow named Peter Dutton, has said that his department is considering fast-tracking the visas for white South African farmers.
And he says they deserve special attention owing to the, in his words, horrific circumstances they face in South Africa.
Now, when he made that announcement, it wasn't clear whether this Peter Dutton was talking about the farm murder statistics or whether South Africa has just decided that they're going to look into the possibility of taking white land without compensation.
Correct.
We talked about that the other day.
Now, here is South Africa heading down the road towards Zimbabwe.
But I think it's fascinating that this guy is clearly anticipating what could very well happen.
Something that I've been talking about for years.
The idea of white South Africans leaving the country with the clothes on their back.
This could happen.
They could be just completely sent away, completely dispossessed.
And the ones, I think, who've got the brains, they're probably thinking about leaving now.
And he's very serious about giving them a safe haven.
And I'm delighted to that.
The image you just brought up, it makes me think of the documentary that the Italian brothers, I think, did called Africa Audio.
Africa Adio.
Africa Adio.
There's actually scenes where that happens.
I believe there are some white Kenyans who have to leave everything behind as the decolonization happens in a number of the African countries.
It was made, I think, in the late 60s, early 70s.
Yes, late 60s.
So Rhodesia is still there, it's still around, although the international pressure was on them.
I encourage all listeners to go out and get a copy of this on Amazon and watch it because, as Mr. Taylor just pointed out, this This image is not far off from happening.
I could see this happening.
I believe they're going to have the Constitutional Convention in August to decide what to do if they're going to confiscate land without compensation.
And this could be happening within the year.
This story, I'm going to throw something out there because I've already said, I've already gone on record and said that Kamala Harris is going to be the Democrat nominee in 2020.
That's a fact.
Take it to the bank.
We could actually see in the upcoming midterm elections this become a story of what's going on in South Africa.
Because just think, in August the South Africans decide, the black South Africans decide, we are going to start taking land.
How amazing would that be?
And we have a president in Donald Trump who is going to be sympathetic.
Well, it's true.
Apparently, more than 12,000 people have signed a petition asking President Donald Trump to let white people in South Africa emigrate to the United States.
I mean, this was something that was a reaction immediately to the Parliament vote of talking about confiscating land.
Apparently, there's a similar petition calling for the European Union President Jean-Claude Juncker Angela Merkel and British Prime Minister Theresa May to allow white South Africans into European countries.
It's got 17,000 signatures.
Who knows what kind of reaction this will provoke.
But you and I, Mr. Kersey, we are not the only guys thinking in these terms.
It's very, very clear that things could conceivably become intolerable for white people in Southern Africa.
Is this one of the first times in recent memory that you can think of where a Every member of a government, regardless of the nation, is thinking in terms of race to try and improve the life of a persecuted white minority that's facing genocide.
We know they're facing genocide.
That's what Jacob Malma has stated.
No, no, no.
He says we're not talking about slaughtering them yet.
Come on.
Give the guy a break.
I'm giving him the credit where credit is due.
Julius Malem.
He's talking about things.
Five years down the road.
We'll decide.
It may not be necessary to slaughter them.
They may leave on their own.
They may die of mysterious diseases.
We're not talking about slaughtering them yet.
What's fascinating is Australia, there is a precedent.
The Australians gave gave the opportunity for Rhodesians to head there back in the 1980s.
There's a great New York Times article that talks about this.
Because, going back to what we were talking about in the documentary, as whites were trying to leave countries that were going through quick decolonization to vote for independence, Rhodesia was still around and South Africa was still around.
And most of the whites refused to go to Rhodesia because of the international pressure that was on them, there was a civil war going on, they wanted to at least live this idyllic lifestyle in South Africa and Rhodesians were
pointing out this is 10 years guys down the road for South Africa and
they were right and you know there is a large expat population of Rhodesians
in Australia so there is a precedent for this and
what's funny... Before we move on to the next subject the actor Matt Damon has said that he's moving his family
to Australia because of Donald Trump's white supremacy
And it's like, Matt, hey, Australia had a whites-only immigration policy until, what, the 1980s?
I think it faded away in the mid to late 70s.
So about the same time the Mormons decided to say that, OK, we can allow blacks to become Mormons.
Members of the priesthood.
Yeah, members of the priesthood.
This all happens.
But Australia is far, far whiter.
Far wider than the United States.
Far wider.
You mentioned this Africa Odeo.
It's not all that easy to find.
There's sort of a cut-down version of it called Africa Blood and Guts that's easier to find.
But Africa Odeo, the full-length movie, it was a full-length movie that was in movie theaters except in the United States.
Do you realize it was banned?
They were not able to project it in movie theaters.
Maybe once or twice and then it got banned.
But it is a beautifully photographed thing.
This was a professional movie shooting crew that went out and just filled the screen with these astonishing images of African independence.
And Africa Blood and Guts is a somewhat shorthand but not inaccurate way of describing what goes on in that movie.
Well, like I said, there's a very sad scene where a family that had been there for generations is forced to leave their sprawling, beautiful home That China, everything is left, and they just leave.
That's right.
They could not stay.
Well, it's like Betsy Ross running off with the copy of the Declaration of Independence when the British come.
That's the way they had to leave.
There was hot food on the table when the British showed up.
I'm sure that the people who were chasing this white family out in Kenya, they feasted royally on what was left.
But, be all that as it may.
You know, this question of the South Africans.
There's some dispute as to the exact figures, but of the farmers who are murdered every year.
Apparently, the best figures I could find are about 50 or 60 a year.
That's down from a high of 150 in 2001.
But there is still this very consistent, systematic slaughter of whites.
And what is particularly gruesome about it, as you probably know, they are often tortured, they're burned, they're mutilated, they're raped 50 different times before they are put to death.
It is just horrific.
And you have to, you have to salute either the stubbornness or the courage of white farmers who still stay on their land.
And also, one of the reasons the numbers are down is because they've got these sort of telephone and radio equipped ways of bringing in reinforcements as soon as the last thing.
They live in sort of these bunkers, well bunkers is not the right word, but very heavily protected compounds.
But no, as this guy, this Australian Minister for Immigration, Peter Dutton, says, their circumstances are horrific.
And someday we will learn about that.
Here's a hypothetical question for you.
How far off do you think the United States is from having the type of conditions that we see in Brazil, where the whites have to live in these highly fortified enclaves, as we know this of white South Africans?
I mean, how far off is this, theoretically?
I would hate to have to answer, and it will come, it will come bit by bit in different places.
You could perhaps, where it would be, people, there are gated communities already, of course, in the United States, and I think there'll be more and more of them.
But when will we have to live in this kind of siege mentality?
It could certainly come.
It could certainly come.
I hate to say when, but that, of course, will, I think, drive whites into kind of enclaves of their own when things really get worse.
But as Mark Twain said, predictions are always difficult, especially when you're talking about the future.
But if we could move on to what was happening in Britain just this week.
You know, the lefties really are overplaying their hands.
This business of having told Martin Sellner and his girlfriend Brittany Pettibone that they could not come to the UK.
Astonishingly enough, Martin Sellner was on his way to speak at Hyde Park Corner, this hallowed ground of free speech, and they said he could not come and deliver a talk at Hyde Park Corner.
Also, Brittany Pettibone The two of them were kept for, I think, two nights in some kind of detention center before they were taken away.
They were handcuffed, separated from each other, and for three days they were held... What do you think they were doing for all that time?
It's astonishing to think.
What do they have to do for three days?
Let's backtrack real quick and let's remind our listeners who these people are, just in case they don't know.
I just want to point out that these two individuals are I want to say they're both under 28.
They might even be younger than that.
Could be, yes.
They're both very young.
They're both pragmatic.
They're both very disciplined and principled people.
Yes, I should have said Martin Sellner is really one of the most prominent people in Generation Identity.
In Austria, and Austria is by no means the kind of place where you've got these wild people making violent or even implicitly violent claims.
He is an extremely moderate guy.
Very important for you to bring this to our attention, people who don't know about who he is.
He speaks excellent English.
He's a very personable fellow, just as reasonable as the day is long.
And Brittany Pettibone, I've never seen any of her videos, but I understand that she, likewise, takes a fairly moderate tone.
Although, one of the things that they said about her, as I recall... No, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
This was somebody else.
Who we'll get to.
Yes, who we will get to.
Well, Brittany is an American, and she was on her way over there.
I believe she was going to go interview Are the great Tommy Robinson correct?
Well, the two of them, what you see what Brittany Pettibone was going to do was video the tape.
But she too, like in both cases, they are told that, first of all, Generation Identity, according to the British Home Office, is viewed in the UK as a right-wing organization.
As if that's sufficient to keep somebody out.
Then they go on to say that Martin Selner's speech was quote,
likely to incite tensions between local communities.
And I love the way this home office official spelled incite, I-N-S-I-G-H-T as opposed to I-N-C-I-T.
Now, going back real quick to Brittany Pettibone, I would encourage all of our listeners to check out her videos.
She does a tremendous job.
She has a wonderful presentation.
She's beautiful.
Let's just put it that way.
She's a beautiful young lady, informed, she knows the issues, and she has a goal in place, just like Selner.
They have a goal.
It's not just Let's crack an egg and see what happens.
They decide, hey, we want to cook this egg.
We just don't want to open up and throw it at someone.
Let's figure out the right way to get from point A to how we actually make Westerners embrace this concept of identity.
They are extremely careful, moderate people.
And I think it is marvelous that They were joined by Lauren Southern.
I think many of our listeners are probably familiar with her.
She too is a very, very pretty girl.
And they said that in her case, she was kept out because she had been displaying flyers in the UK that said such things as, Allah is gay, Allah is trans, Allah is lesbian, Allah is intersex, Allah is feminist, Allah is queer, Allah is all of us.
Apparently that's enough, that's enough to keep her out of Britain.
And she was told, like the other two, that her actions, quote, present a threat to the fundamental interests of society.
This, this really is just extraordinary.
The government of England actually called those flyers racist material.
And she's talking about Allah, the prophet.
Yes.
Well, Allah was not a white man, as far as we know.
Well, no, this is Allah.
This isn't even the prophet.
This is Allah himself.
Yeah, you're right.
This is Muhammad.
This is Allah.
This is the deity.
This is the supreme being.
That's all pathetically racist.
So apparently they have all been released and been sent back to their respective countries.
But as you point out, I was looking at some of the news coverage of this, and you have the photographs of the three people.
It is great to have such attractive young people being kicked out of the country as thought criminals.
And I think this is going to become increasingly common.
People are going to look at their pictures, just their pictures alone, and say, wait a minute, these are precisely the kind of people we'd like in our country.
As Ann Coulter pointed out quite nicely, yeah, let's kick two pretty white girls out of the country.
Or let's not let two pretty white girls into England.
This is going to show you.
Well, you know, we have been telling the Brits that they need to get control of their borders and think about who they admit.
Well, I guess they've taken our advice, huh?
Isn't this incredible, though, that you always hear, well, we can't control the borders.
We can't control who comes in.
You know, we're going to resettle 400 to 500 former ISIS fighters because it would be wrong not to try and re-acclimate them to society.
But we're not going to allow this American woman, Brittany Pettibone, We're not going to allow this Austrian in.
We're not going to allow this Canadian, Laura Southern, who just, mind the wave, going back to South Africa to show how important her work is to normalize these ideas.
You know, we hear all these people say, oh, you know, you just got to lay out your cards and be as radical as possible.
Yeah, that's worked out so well since 2016, Trump's election.
That's all I'll say about that.
But let me put this out.
Laura Southern, who was attacked by a lot of people for Not even worth getting into some of the unnecessary political infighting.
But she went down to South Africa and did a tremendous job in showcasing what's going on with whites down there.
It wasn't explicitly racial.
It was factual.
At the same time, it was implicitly racial.
It was solidarity.
A white woman from Canada who went to South Africa to warn the rest of the white people around the world, especially at a time when Western Europe's being colonized, and the government is supporting the colonization with the taxpayer dollars.
I cannot tell you how important Laura Southern, Sellner, and Pettibone are.
These are heroes.
Oh, they are the future of, ultimately, white racial consciousness and salvation.
People like them.
And they don't have to make it necessarily explicit.
I think what they're doing is wonderful.
I agree.
And when the British government keeps attractive, thoughtful people like that out of the country, they are really giving themselves a black eye.
Yeah.
But, you know, I looked into who are some of the other people that Britain has banned, and I suppose our listeners will not be surprised to know that Richard Spencer and Matthew Heimbach have been banned, but also Michael Savage, the conservative radio host, Eric Glebe, who was running the National Alliance for a while, Donald Black, who runs the Stormfront website, And, uh, Pamela Gellar.
Pamela Gellar.
Uh, you know, part of it is they're very, very sensitive about stirring up the Muslims.
And anybody who speaks in a straightforward way about Islam is unwelcome.
And that's apparently why they said Lauren Southern.
You talk about, you say, Allah is gay.
Well, you know, that's enough.
You can't come into the country.
Quite astonishing.
Also, Robert Spencer, he's another guy that they banned.
From Jihad Watch.
Jihad Watch.
He's very staunch on the Islam question.
And in addition, there's somebody like Edward Snowden.
They say he's a criminal, don't want him in.
One of the big surprises to me was that they banned Martha Stewart.
Apparently, in the Stewart case, they said people found guilty of, quote, serious criminal offenses abroad are not allowed in.
But, you know, she had this sort of lying to a federal agent thing with this stock manipulation story back in 2004, I think it was.
Maybe later than that.
In any case, she didn't serve time for that long.
If they are keeping her out, gosh.
It seems to me they're an awful lot of people.
I think you'd be shocked if people tried to go over, especially people listening to this.
I was talking to a friend who said that his father's wishes were to have his ashes scattered in Scotland.
He doesn't want to book a ticket because he doesn't want to face the embarrassment of being turned away when he gets to Heathrow.
Well, I will not ask who that person might be.
Gee, well, you know, you were talking about this false explanation of how we just can't control our borders, we can't watch every single person who comes in, and yet, they clearly, they must not have known, they must not have had any advance notice that these people were coming, but they've had them on some sort of list.
They have taken the trouble to look all around the world and say to themselves, hmm, Who would we like to keep out?
And they haven't notified these people.
They find out completely by surprise.
When they try to get off the plane, nope, nope, nope, nope, back home you go.
But they've got the manpower, they've got the time and the resources to just comb through.
How is it they pick these people?
I mean, they are really going through, I mean, you obviously want to keep hardcore criminals out, you think they'd want obvious jihadis out, but they've gotten all the way down to really thoughtful and utterly unoffensive people like these
three.
One of the questions that Laura was asked, would you run over people with a car?
Are you a Christian terrorist?
She put this on Twitter and she said, I'm not making this up.
I was asked if I plan to use a car as a terroristic weapon.
What?
I mean, we are dealing with the state in England.
It's so hard to even comprehend.
And I've gone back and I've started reading some of Solzhenitsyn's work to try and Think in terms of what they dealt with in the Soviet Union and now what the Brits are because in the United States and across Western Europe there's a digital iron curtain that's coming down that's stopping our ideas.
Britain First just got their Facebook page completely suspended.
It was the largest political party And apparently Prime Minister Theresa May officially approved.
She says it's a great thing.
said, hey, just take it down.
It's got to go.
And apparently Prime Minister Theresa May officially approved.
She says it's a great thing.
Shut these people up.
Good grief.
Well, you know, the British Isles have gone insane.
Of course, I'm sure that they look at news stories about us and say the same thing.
But just to give credit where credit is due, it is not only white people who have been kept away from the United Kingdom.
And the names I was giving were just Americans.
I noticed that there's a list of all sorts of unpronounceable names and people from unpronounceable countries who have also been kept out, and probably for good reason in some cases, but they've also kept out Louis Farrakhan.
They think he's a hate monger.
Fancy that.
And Mike Tyson, believe it or not, he has done time and apparently enough times for him to be considered one of these people who has committed a serious criminal offense abroad.
No, Britain, which is the home of all of these rights of Englishmen, the ideas that went spreading all around the world in the Anglo-Saxon diaspora, if we may call it that, they are really leading the charge in burying the rights and freedoms and privileges that English-speaking people have taken for granted.
You pointed out that Michael Savage is banned from England.
He's joked on his show many times that he would love to do a tour, and he's asked President Trump.
He was one of the big supporters of President Trump, and he interviewed candidate Trump many times on his show.
Very important show.
I believe it's number four right now in terms of Talker's top 100.
Massive audience.
He had Laura.
He had Lauren on his show for about 15 minutes where they had a wonderful conversation.
Lauren was able to introduce herself to an audience that's probably never heard of her work before.
And now they're going to go, they're going, who's this girl?
Let me look at her stuff on Twitter.
Let me see her on Facebook.
Let me see her on YouTube.
And they're going to be introduced to a lot of different ideas now that they probably never thought about.
And as the As the crack-up of democracy begins to happen before our eyes and the true cause of the 21st century, that is, the ascension of identity as the central point of social policy for us moving forward to ensure that we actually survive as a people.
It becomes the ultimate goal of everything we're doing.
It's little moments like that that are going to be the catalyst for somebody who never thought about this stuff to embrace it and to start that path toward embracing it.
So kudos to Lauren, kudos to Selner, and kudos to Pitta Bone for having the courage and the tenacity to be Thoughtful in what you're doing to try and bring about ideas that we all want to see happen.
Yes, yes, unquestionably.
And their treatment in this manner will have brought far more attention to their ideas than letting them into the country and give a speech at Hyde Park Corner.
I just don't understand what these people think they're doing.
But much as we scoff at the hive mind of these British bureaucrats, When we look at the results of polls of college students in the United States on the subject of free speech, these were poll results that came out just this week, and given a choice between a diverse and inclusive society and protecting free speech,
This quite large sample of some several thousand colitudes said 53% thought that a diverse and inclusive society is more important than freedom of speech.
46% said freedom of speech.
About the only people who think that freedom of speech is more important are men, as opposed to women, 61 to 39, and white people, a bare majority of whites.
52% say protecting freedom of speech is better.
Think about that.
White people, a substantial number of them, 47%, think that diversity, and of course diversity always works to their disadvantage, think that diversity, In other words, eliminating them eventually is more important than freedom of speech.
This is just an extraordinary testimony to the kind of brainwashing that goes on on college campuses today.
The data is not broken out by gender for race.
I would love to have seen, based on the stat that 61% of men favor protecting free speech
versus 64% of women view a diverse and inclusive society being more important than protecting
Only 35% of women do.
I'd love to actually see that broken up by race.
So would I. White men.
What's the story on white men?
Exactly.
And I think it's probably pretty good because if all men, 61% of all men, who knows, maybe as many as 70%, 75% of white men, maybe that was such a discouraging statistic from their point of view that they decided not to publicize that.
In any case, I was very surprised that blacks all told, 68% think that diversity is more important than freedom of speech, but when you go to historically black institutions, only 53%.
68% of all blacks, and then 53% of blacks at historically black universities.
I cannot think what would account for that difference, but it's a curious one.
I do have a theory of what that could be.
Looking at the survey, Gallup surveyed about 3,000 college students.
I bet the survey sample size for historically black college students, probably smaller than any other categories.
That would be my only, that would be the only idea that I could come up with because those numbers just don't...
Those numbers are so different than the numbers for blacks as a whole.
Yes, and you would almost expect it to be the opposite.
You'd think blacks who are racially conscious and want to go to a black school would think that inclusion is more important than freedom of speech.
But this was a survey that is put out by Pew, as I recall.
No, I beg your pardon.
It was the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation.
They do pretty serious work, and I doubt that they would put up figures that are just not statistically valid.
But you could be correct about that.
It's a very surprising finding.
But when such substantial numbers of whites And of course, as you point out, we don't know the sex
breakout.
And women are always left of men on all these questions, invariably.
Quit being a misogynist.
I'm just observing the facts, Mr. Kersey.
And the facts appear to be misogynist, just as so many facts are racist.
So many facts are... well, anyway.
But it is really a sad commentary on the kinds of things that people are paying $10,000, $15,000, in some cases $60,000 a year to be told.
Well from a racial perspective I think you can garner The reality of what whites, white men in general, the view on free speech versus diversity and inclusion, which is more important, when you actually look at the political party view.
And Republicans are at roughly 70% in favor of free speech, protecting free speech versus protecting diversity and inclusion.
Whereas Democrats are almost at the exact polar opposite.
66% of Democrats favor diversity and inclusion.
And there was another great study a couple weeks ago that came out about Republican and Democrats' views on if there's enough black history being taught in the school system.
And it was something like 80% of Republicans said there's too much.
And 60% of Democrats said there's not enough.
We've talked about these trends.
The trends are there.
It's fascinating because we won't get into the still unsettled Pennsylvania 18 race yet.
A very white district in Pennsylvania where you had two candidates trying to out-Trump one another.
In a situation like that, you throw politics out.
It's basically who's more likable.
People don't care about Heritage Foundation talking points.
They care about how their life is going to be.
In a place like that, you probably would have most people Democrats, white Democrats and white Republicans, who would say, yeah, free speech is more important.
Let's hope so.
Let's hope so.
But as our country becomes more and more like California, where whites are disenfranchised in a lot of ways, True taxation without representation.
I think that actually should be, you know, a white candidate in California's actual stance.
Well, of course, it is a cliché to say so, but I think it is in fact true that the nation has not been so divided since before the Civil War.
Just the amount of antagonism and this process we see of people just coming to utterly irreconcilable differences.
And I don't think it's going to be a pretty ending.
No, it's not going to be a pretty ending, but it's not going to be like the whole civil war.
Because again, almost 4 million people voted for Donald Trump in California in 2016.
Where are they gonna go?
We'll see.
Maybe we will have to give them refugee status.
I don't think they'll be streaming out with just the clothes on their backs.
But, you know, you just never know.
Well, one of the other things I wanted to talk about was this study, the like of which I think we're going to see more and more of, in which a huge population of a quarter of a million people We're tested to see what are the DNA combinations that seem to be correlated with intelligence.
And more than 500 genes have now been linked to intelligence by a team of researchers headed by Ian Deary of the University of Edinburgh.
I think we're going to see more and more of this.
I've seen his name over the years.
He's a guy who is very interested in finding what is the biological basis for intelligence.
I don't know that much about him, but he is the lead scientist in something called the Integrated Research Project Aimed at Discovering Mechanisms of Cognitive Aging.
I was going to say, that is a cool title, and that's a cool thing to be researching, because as our population starts to age, and you have to worry about the health care costs of housing your grandparents, your parents, you want them to have their cognitive faculties Still in place.
Have mental acumen for longer.
Mr. Taylor, this stat blew me away the other day.
There are now more older people in the United States than there are babies.
This is the kind of stuff that our listeners, who are probably turning a little older, You want people like this researching this type of stuff.
Of course, yes.
I'm a little bit older.
I see my marbles slipping away.
I'd like to keep as many of them as possible.
If Professor Ian Deary can do research on any kind of supplements or any kind of medications I can take to keep the marbles rattling around upstairs rather than out the door, I'm all for it.
In a way, you know, I'm just speculating here, but if you're talking about controlling the effects of aging on intelligence, that is sort of a backdoor way to really get to the nuts and bolts of aging.
I'm sorry, the nuts and bolts of intelligence.
Whereas I think you just wanted to say, well, we want to know how much of it's genetic.
Ooh, that's dangerous.
That sounds elitist.
But when you're talking about trying to prevent dementia, trying to keep old people active, looking after themselves, wow, that's worthy.
Agreed.
But anyway, also something else that he found, and I thought this is something that we've known for some time, that many of these 538 genes that play some role in intellectual ability also have some influence on other biological processes that are associated with living longer.
Now, it makes me wonder whether the living longer is simply a question of being more intelligent.
It's been known for a long time that smart people, compared to otherwise comparable less intelligent people, do live longer.
They take care of themselves, they take their medicine the way they should, they do what the doctors tell them to do, some of them are smart enough to exercise, etc.
But, there may in fact be genes for intelligence that have some sort of connection to physiological processes themselves.
That's always a possibility as well.
But apparently, one of the teams found that some of the genes are associated with communication within the brain.
That's a very important part of intelligence.
I was reading a book on the physiology of intelligence several months ago, and it's the gray matter that does what we consider to be the processing, and it's the white matter that is involved in communicating the results of processing to different parts in the brain.
And integrity of white matter, as it's called, that's a real problem.
In old people, the white matter begins to fray and doesn't convey the signals quite as well as it used to.
And so this is all part of it.
And ultimately, and this was something that was played up in the news stories about this, what the Edinburgh team was able to do is predict the intelligence of individuals simply on the basis of their DNA.
Now, if you read the fine print, they could predict only about 7% of the variants.
And of course, environments, so far as we can tell, maybe account for 35-40%, but of that maybe 60-65% that is accounted for by genetics, they have found 7%.
This is just one step forward.
Someday, they're going to be spitting a cup IQ tests.
That's all it's going to take.
A direct physiological assessment of intelligence, assuming that you haven't been brought up like a feral child.
The genes are there for an IQ of 125 or whatever it is.
And this, of course, it was speculation of this kind that got Dr. Watson in trouble.
It's not just Dr. Watson.
This goes back to men who have had a profound influence on you and a lot of our listeners.
People like Dr. William Shockley, who should be honored every day with all of his advancements.
And yet, he is a pariah.
How dare anyone even mention his name in a positive light?
Right, right.
Nobel Prize winner.
I'm talking about James Watson, of course, the co-discoverer of DNA, who got into such a terrible fix.
And this just offhand comment about, he says, we'd like to think that Africans are just as smart as the rest of us.
But when you look at the world around us, it just doesn't seem to be so.
And one of these days, we're going to find the genes that account for it.
And then, you know, it's going to be out in the open.
Poof!
Gone!
In fact, he was so persecuted, so suddenly out of a job, do you recall he was trying to peddle his Nobel Medal just to make ends meet?
It might have been that, but I think he also wanted to buy some Russian painting.
There was a great story where he wanted to buy a painting and some Russian actually came in and gave the money so he could actually purchase it.
I thought he was just trying to make ends meet.
He was going to exchange that Nobel medal.
In any case, I do know that a Russian came in and said, OK, if you're in such dire straits, I'll give you the money you need.
But you could be correct.
If it were simply to buy a luxury, that wasn't the way.
I don't believe it was a need.
I believe it was a want.
But what's fascinating, Stephen Hawking just passed away at the age of 74.
And he made it his life's mission at the end of his life to try and find a black Einstein in Africa.
He made some statements in about 2011 that he's like, we're going to find black geniuses in Africa.
Well, that's the equivalent of the Holy Grail.
Well, no, but my point is this.
In our lifetime, Stephen Hawking has been put up as this great physicist.
He's been put up as this unbelievable thinker.
It is my great belief that He's a footnote and he will be a footnote in history because he dedicated his life to placating the zeitgeist of the day when it came to political correctness and refusing to admit the reality of race, biological differences between the racial groups and what that meant.
It's going to be men like Watson, Chocolate, who we remember.
Assuming we win.
Assuming that there is... But don't forget there are many fields of scientific endeavor that have nothing to do with the questions that are of particular fascination for us.
As somebody who has done the path-breaking work on singularities or Higgs bosons.
Those things too, they count for something.
But no, I certainly agree.
The ones who will stand out as courageous, The ones who clearly followed the truth wherever it would lead, that would be people like Arthur Jensen, people like Philippe Rushton, and in people living today, Linda Godforsen, Michael Levin when he was still doing this kind of work.
Professor Wax at UPenn.
Oh, boy.
We could have done a whole segment on poor Professor Whyte.
I suppose you might as well point that out.
She had written an essay in which she pointed out that, really, the value system of the 1950s was a good one, and people should stop complaining.
They should get married.
They should stay married.
They should get a job, put their heads down, and pull their pants up, and that's the way you get ahead.
Well, to talk about the 1950s, of course, that is nothing more than to decry every non-white, every non-hetero.
This was just horrible, horrible.
So she took all of this heat, and now just recently a recording has come out of her talking to—who was it?
Oh, it was Glenn Lowery, the black Harvard guy who's taken a dim view of affirmative action.
She pointed out that blacks at UPenn Law School just don't perform as well as whites.
And on the strength of that, after this human crime, now her courses at the University of Pennsylvania Law School are no longer obligatory.
Yeah, her freshman course that she taught.
She is going to be able to still teach some of her higher level courses for second and third year law students, but she is no longer going to be the person that every first year law student has to interact with for her class.
I thought to myself when I read about this, this is strictly a factual question.
Do they or don't they do as well?
She said that you almost never find them in the top half of the class.
And just basically never in the top 5 or 10 percent.
And she said that for law review, the law school has quotas.
Well, some dean has come out and said, no, she's all wrong about the facts.
We can't give you the facts because that would be violating student privacy.
But she's all wrong.
Believe me, she's all wrong.
Well, I think she probably is entirely right.
But this, you know, it's...
This has, of course, the proverbial chilling effect because people will see someone who has spoken the truth and she's been disciplined.
Now, she is a respected scholar in her field, she is well-established, she has tenure, but some young guy who's coming up for tenure, some guy who isn't quite as well-established, is he going to indulge in this sort of truth-telling?
Probably not.
Put his head down.
Or for her, put her head down.
That's right, that's right.
These are sad, sad and sorry times.
But I think I would like to conclude with something that you had called to my attention.
Apparently there is a black directoress by the name of Ava DuVernay.
Who has done a movie version of A Wrinkle in Time.
And tell me the significance of this particular story.
Well, why this is so significant, the media is trying to spin this past weekend's box office numbers.
It's the first time that two black directors who Directed a movie with a budget of $100 million or more.
Talking about Ryan Coogler, Black Panther, and Miss DuVernay.
We'll call her Ava from now on.
She's from Compton.
Straight out of Compton?
Straight out of Compton, and she is an explicit black nationalist.
Very light-skinned, but she's an explicit black nationalist.
And she was chosen back in 2014 to direct a version of A Wrinkle in Time, which is a beautiful book.
It's a young adult novel written in the 1960s.
It's in an all-white setting.
It's quite clear that Meg Murray, the heroine of the story, is white, based on the authors.
The author came out herself and said, this is in her obituary in the New York Times, that, hey, Meg Murray is me.
I met, and she's a white woman, Madeline L'Engle, the author.
But my point is that she was chosen, a very political decision by Disney, to cast, to give her the reins to direct this movie.
It had a $200 million P&A budget.
Now P&A, that means production and advertising budget.
So it had a hundred, it had 50% more money allocated by Disney for the marketing of this movie.
So $150 million.
Now remember, we've talked about this before, Black Panther had $350 million P&A.
$200 million for production, $150 million for the advertising.
Black Panther has done extremely well, largely on the strength of the fact that it was the 18th movie in the Marvel Cinematic Universe.
And also by the fact that blacks are going to see it again, and again, and again.
At the end of the day, blacks are probably going to end up being 40% of the audience, where normally for a movie like this, they're probably about 15% of the audience.
So they've enabled this movie to become really the big hit that it is.
Not so with A Wrinkle in Time.
Well, first of all, let me ask you, did she recast all the characters?
Is it black, or all of them, or some of them?
So here's what ended up happening.
She asked Disney, can I cast Meg Murray as black?
They said, sure, go ahead.
So they then got rid of two of, in the book there are four siblings, they got rid of the two older twins, or two younger twins, and then they cast the younger brother, Charles Murray, as a Filipino.
So it's adopted.
So you have a biracial.
Her father in the movie is played by Chris Pine, a very white actor.
The mother is a light-skinned black woman.
So they have a biracial daughter and then they have adopted a Filipino just to have every multicultural diversity quota checked off.
It's an all-American family.
She then went out of her way also to hire as many non-whites to fulfill roles within the production of the actual movie, from cinematographers to principal photographers, etc, etc.
And, as I understand, the movie has bombed.
Well, again, in every interview before, again, $150 million to market this.
And it was all about Meg being black.
It was all about... She went on show after show after show talking about, This movie is my love letter to black girls everywhere.
And it's like, wait a second.
Wait a second.
Back, back, back up.
You're taking, you're appropriating a beautiful work of white fiction.
This was written in the 1960s when white people, it's like when we always talk about the Naturalization Act of 1790.
White people in the 1950s and 60s, for a large part, you know, you didn't have to deal with the civil rights nonsense that was going on in the South.
You lived in a white cocoon.
So you took for granted the whiteness of America.
This novel is just replete with whiteness, and it's been replaced with overt and magnified blackness by the media that wants to fawn over this racial reinterpretation of A Wrinkle in Time.
So what happens, Mr. Taylor?
The movie comes out, and it makes 33 million dollars opening week.
Now, the media tries to spin it and say, well, this is great.
Like I said, the first time you have two black directors, one and two.
But again, you have a movie that has a budget of 100 million dollars for the production and 150 million dollars for marketing and it makes that little.
In fact, they actually, there's a company that breaks down the race, the percentage of a race that goes to see the movie.
And only, I think it was, 18% of the $33,000,000 that came from Blacks.
So the movie, Blacks made up about 5.6% of the actual, 5.6 million percent of that $33,000,000.
So Blacks just, they didn't go see it.
A movie that was marketed explicitly to them where the author is saying, this is a love letter to Blacks, this is all about Black girl magic, that's a weird phrase that is coming about.
But it's like, wait a second.
You're co-opting white culture.
Well, are we really sure that Wakanda isn't co-opting white culture?
I mean, we've got all these spaceships and we've got magic.
Here's the important point, and this is why I wanted to close out with this.
Because from now on, even though the movie bombed at the audience, it's not going to make its money back for Disney.
Even though critics lambasted the movie.
In fact, there's an article out today that's on Drudge where the director is saying that, well, it's because the critics are racist.
It's got a horrible... Well, isn't she herself saying that the critics are racist?
She is.
She actually blocked me on Twitter because I was tweeting at her quite a lot over the weekend.
Oh, I see.
A lot of the great people who follow my Twitter account were retweeting it at her.
I hope that somewhere, wherever she is right now, I hope that she remembers some of those tweets that were sent to her because she did block me.
Obviously it impacted her.
But the idea that somehow racist critics are squelching her movie, this is precisely the wrong time to make such a complaint when Black Panther is Breaking records!
How can she possibly take her own self seriously?
Well, it's funny because on Rotten Tomatoes, the movie has about a 43% critic rating, whereas Black Panther is one of the best reviewed movies, not just this year, not just in this century, of all time.
And the audience score for the movie on Rotten Tomatoes is a woeful 37.
No one likes this movie.
But the problem with this is, from now on moving forward, The version that most young children in this country are going to see of Meg Murray from A Wrinkle in Time is this Disney abomination.
Not if they don't go see it.
There's already been one movie version of this, hasn't there?
There was.
There was a movie version that came out in 2004.
It was a made-for-TV movie.
Miramax and Disney actually co-produced it.
It had a very anemic budget.
What's funny about that though, Mr. Taylor, is that even though the movie has It had nowhere near the production budget that this version did.
It still has a higher user score on Rotten Tomatoes than this movie does.
It's got like a 43% rating versus 37%.
Maybe I will make the definitive list of all of the racial reinterpreting and reimagining of characters that we're seeing.
The BBC just did a production, Mr. Taylor, of The Iliad, where Achilles and Zeus were black.
It bombed.
But again, it's not about making money.
It's about sending a message.
That's right.
That's right.
You would think that companies like that really would sharpen their pencils very to find points to calculate their sums to make money.
But when it comes to race and sex roles, homosexuality, all of these things, they are prepared, obviously, to sacrifice money to be on the side of what they consider to be righteousness.
We are living in extraordinary times.
But, anyway, well, thank you very much for this assessment of this remarkable movie.
I can't say that I'm shedding any tears over its failure in the box office.
Neither am I. But, well, we will see.
We will be talking to our listeners in just a wrinkle in time, in just one more week's time.