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Feb. 3, 2017 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to another broadcast of Radio Renaissance.
I'm Jared Taylor with American Renaissance, and with me is Paul Kersey of Stuff Black People Don't Like, our regular guest and brilliant commentator.
Of course, it has been, as always, now that Donald Trump is in the White House, a very, very exciting few days and a very exciting week.
But some of the greatest excitement has had to do with something that Trump didn't have much to do with.
And that was the rioting at Cal Berkeley that prevented Milo Yiannopoulos from giving one of his talks on his dangerous faggot tour.
This was really an extraordinary event.
It was typical of the left's resistance to any kind of ideas that might go against their completely hermetically sealed view of the world.
And I thought it was most significant that when the idea was first floated that Yiannopoulos was going to give his talks, over 100 Berkeley professors signed a letter asking the university to prevent him from speaking.
This is 100 faculty members at the place of the original free speech movement saying, don't let this guy talk.
Isn't that extraordinary? Well, it's extraordinary, but you also have to factor in.
The fact that the mayor of the city of Berkeley, the things he was saying that entire day on Twitter, basically saying we can't allow hate.
And this is the question, Mr.
Taylor, that Tucker Carlson asked Milo Iannopoulos last night on Tucker Carlson Tonight.
What exactly constitutes hate speech?
You know, I've seen videos just because it's fascinating being a millennial to think that this guy used to go speak to three or four thousand people when George Lincoln Walkwell would go speak.
He never encountered this type of vitriol.
He would have people would come and they'd listen to his entire speech.
You can go on YouTube and look at these images and these video presentations where people are sitting in rapt attention.
They will vehemently disagree with him, but they want to listen to him.
And with With Milo, who is a homosexual British immigrant who brags constantly about the number of non-white partners he has.
In fact, he did that last night on Tucker's show.
For some reason, we're supposed to think that he is dangerous and that his ideas should not be allowed.
Even though he's probably more of a civic nationalist and an American nationalist than Bannon.
If you've heard our podcast before, we always point out that Trump, Bannon, Miller, they're just civic nationalists, American nationalists.
And Milo is...
I don't really understand what makes him so dangerous, but apparently, Mr.
Taylor, 100 Berkeley professors do.
That's right. Well, he makes fun of political correctness of all kinds.
And I think he does it in a way that is particularly exasperating for them.
He makes them look like fools.
Yeah. Attacking people with comedy, attacking people in ways that make them look foolish, is probably the most effective way.
I don't have that gift.
I try to attack people on grounds of logic.
That doesn't make them look foolish.
But Milo has this particular knack, particular ability for doing that.
I think one of the really significant things about this, though, is that these people showed up and violently protested.
They exercised violence in trying to silence this guy.
And I got into a Twitter debate about this, and one of the people who was approving of this violence says, well, this is how you prevent another holocaust.
And I said, oh, come on.
By silencing a half-Jewish homosexual who brags about all the black man that he's buggered.
This is how you stop another Holocaust?
But you know, I think some of these people genuinely believe it.
They think that what they are doing is, okay, it may not be nice, violence may not be nice, but they're stopping some kind of genocide, some kind of absolute mass killing.
This is the kind of delusion that drives these people.
I made the mistake of responding to a Steve Saylor tweet at Radley Balco last night, the famed civil libertarian speaker who writes about the police state and warns about any suppression of free speech.
Well, he actually advocates keeping Milo from going on campuses.
And it's like, well, dude, aren't you this staunch defender of the First Amendment?
What are you talking about? And then it was amazing how many of these toothless libertarians tried to bite into, oh, well, you know, the First Amendment, you have to, there has to be protections and Milo is, you know, hate speech and he's connected to...
You know, Richard Spencer, these people.
It's like, what are you talking about?
Talk about fake news.
Milo is, again, like you just said, he is someone who brags about the number of colored partners that he's buggered.
And that he's buggered for hours, perhaps, in numerous videos.
And I'm laughing about it because we live in such illogical times.
Trying to use logic is no longer a...
A way to counterpunch.
And Milo, what I believe Milo, why they fear Milo is because he is the wave, he represents that wave of implicit whiteness that propelled Trump to the White House.
And yet, he could potentially capsize the direction America was going and basically create Explicit whiteness.
He's that bridge to explicit whiteness, which cannot be tolerated by the combined forces of the left, united only by their intense hatred of white people.
Yes, I agree.
Anyone that is not explicitly anti-white is basically a danger.
That's it? Yes. That's it?
Yes. Because that's the first step to some kind of genuine recognition of the rights whites have as a group.
And that is the last taboo in America today.
Chateau Ortiz, who I think is one of the only, you know, these names I'm saying, you should be following them on Twitter, Chateau Ortiz, Chateau Emissary, actually, who is that, and he pointed out recently that it's amazing to think that all these institutions, the NGOs, the academy, private and public employees, corporate America, They've all been united, pushing this paradigm of an aracial view of the world.
And yet, their world crashes into the shore, the rocky shore of race realism.
Again and again and again to the point that, like you just said, Milo, who has flirted with some ideas, there is no doubt that he has.
He wrote an amazing piece for Breitbart on the alt-right, which, in my opinion, legitimized a number of the personalities on the alt-right.
He has flirted with some of these ideas and that flirtation is a bridge too far for the gatekeepers, the ombudsman of our anti-white narrative that has to be protected at all costs or else, guess what?
All of modernity Collapses.
Well, let's not say all of modernity.
I think it does. No, no.
Dentistry under anesthetics, smartphones.
Okay, okay. Those things do not collapse.
I'm talking, you know what I'm referring to.
Yes, post-modernity collapses.
Yes, yes, I certainly agree.
Oh, but this question that you had in mind, what is hate speech?
I think there really is no such thing as hate speech.
There is no line that can properly be drawn.
There is speech that incites to criminal action.
And that should perhaps, under certain circumstances, be illegal.
If I stand up and say, we must all get together and go lynch that son-of-a-bitch Paul Kersey, that's against the law at the present time, if there's any likelihood that this is going to happen.
And that's as it should be. Aside from that though, aside from these very, very rare occurrences, I think hate speech is a figment of the leftist imagination.
And there's absolutely nothing that should be considered hate speech.
Now, one more point I wanted to make here is that these guys, they were running around the ones who were the most violent in Cal Berkeley.
They were all dressed in black and they were wearing masks.
Now, as you probably know, in many states of the South, you cannot wear a mask because of laws passed against the Ku Klux Klan.
You cannot go out in public in a mask.
Now, I don't know what the law is like in California, but I saw a video of what looked like about a hundred of these guys marching along behind a flag, all in black, all wearing black masks.
Now, I have not heard a single arrest figure for the Cal Berkeley Amendment.
Have you? I haven't heard of a single person being arrested for this violence, setting things on fire, smashing windows.
You know, they broke into the windows of three banks.
I saw that in the video. Thanks!
And I think another one, something else that is significant about this is the banners that these black-clad people were carrying.
This is war.
And become ungovernable.
Now, this to me, this is a perfect message for Normies.
The people who oppose us want to be ungovernable.
They're talking about war.
They're being violent.
I think just like the Black Lives Matter movement, these people are a perfect foil.
They are reacting in precisely the right way to bring people to our side.
What's frightening about the video you just mentioned at Cal Berkeley, the protests that forced Milo to be evacuated out of the building, the military precision of the attack.
As you said, they were marching.
If you watch the video where they throw the firecrackers, they break the barricade.
It's a formation, and they advance, and they have one unit that jumps over, they pull the barricades down, another one then quickly, in uniform, they then fire the firecrackers, and they attack, and they attack as if this has been practiced.
And this is a moment where you realize...
America is at a crossroads far more than most people want to admit, especially people like Jared and myself who think about this stuff a lot.
When you see these type of signs, when you see this type of rhetoric, what I found so fascinating and a lot of people pointed out, they destroyed a Starbucks.
Starbucks was one of the big donors of the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton.
They've been a thorn in Donald Trump's side since he became president, saying they're going to hire 10,000 refugees.
More importantly, Starbucks, a couple years ago, they wanted to start putting Starbucks in predominantly non-white, black areas of the country.
Most famously, they're going to open up one in Ferguson.
This is a company that's committed to displacing and the dispossession of whites in America, and yet, These people who are saying it's war become ungovernable, they have no time for ensuring that White people with masters in fine arts can be baristas because they can't get jobs anywhere else.
Jared, we are at a point, and I know we're going to talk about this hopefully next week, where we really are in 2017 in terms of civic nationalism and an ability to actually exist in the same room and as citizens of the same country.
Because we are... We are at a point, and we'll move on to the subject, but we're at a point where major newspapers are arguing if it's okay for attacking people just based on their thoughts.
Not based on anything they've advocated, but based on the fact that they've dared entertain these ideas publicly, if they've written them down and published them in webzines, that they are fair game.
And that's frightening because, Jared, you've done so much great work over the years.
You've believed in civic nationalism.
I think you had a wonderful debate at VDAIR not too long ago with Steve Saylor where you guys argued, where are things headed?
He was the one who was promoting civic nationalism.
He was. He was. You were not.
You were not. You were not.
And I would love to know if Saylor even believed that, but where Saylor is now because this stuff is...
The fact a guy like Gavin McGinnis, I mean, we're not just talking about Berkeley, but two nights ago or a couple nights ago, Gavin McGinnis was trying to give a speech at NYU. College Republicans invited him and people were attacked as they entered.
The beautiful thing about New York, though, is that the police did not allow what they allowed to transpire, where obviously someone in Berkeley said, cops stand down.
You can't... No, it's not necessarily true.
I've seen some debate on that.
The police simply were not prepared for the kind of precision operation you were just describing.
That's a good point. If you have 100 organized men, they can dominate a rabble of 10,000.
Just organization is what matters.
And if those guys are really operating in coordination and practiced maneuvers, it's hard to combat them with the number of police that they prepared.
Which didn't happen at Gavin's event, where you see people just randomly attacking and shouting, you know, no Trump, no KKK, no racist USA, no fascist USA. It's like, guys, the more you keep saying this, the more normal people are going to demand law and order.
So... Yes.
My question is, when is the SPLC going to start advising the police all around the country on tactics to deal with the black block, as you say?
Isn't it their idea to be involved in helping police deal with hate groups?
And I can't imagine a more active and dangerous hate group than these people who actually do commit violence against people they hate.
So, this is a public message to Heidi Byrick and Mark Potok of the SPLC. Please start instructing the police of the United States on how to infiltrate and defeat these anti-fascists.
Well, I hope they would because they are a threat to the fabric of democracy and Donald Trump is a democratically elected We saw a news report come out today that fake news had absolutely nothing to do with Mr.
Trump's election. And we know that the Russian Federation had nothing to do with the election.
The American people, tired of all this stuff, had everything to do with the election of Mr.
Trump. And I hate to say this, the more we see of the black bloc and these attacks on a homosexual British Jew, The more we see these attacks and claiming that he is representative hate speech, the more likely you're going to see a massive wave of indignation destroy the Democratic Party in 2018 and make Donald Trump's Make Donald Trump's mandate to restore law and order that much greater under Attorney General Jeff Sessions and someone who I think has been very underrated,
our new head of the DHS, who's done a tremendous job in voicing and implementing Mr.
Trump's America First agenda.
You know, maybe I should withdraw my appeal to the SPLC. Maybe we should have the black bloc run wild for the next four years.
That would ensure the re-election of Donald Trump.
Well, Chair, I look at it this way, and I don't want you to spend too much time on this topic, but I sent out a tweet the other day where I noted that we're reaching a point where a Donald Trump supporter, someone who's never really read any of the stuff that you and I... The corners of the internet that you and I like to venture to.
But they might have inadvertently liked or retweeted something Richard Spencer put out, not knowing who he is.
They're going to be attacked, brutally injured, and the media is going to investigate them, and they're going to write an article where they said, well, wait a second.
This person one time liked or retweeted Richard Spencer they deserve what they got that is how evil
the mainstream media has become that's how that's how that's what we're being pushed and
I mean again a guy like Gavin McGinnis being called a Nazi repeatedly
It's like you know there is a there's a serious demand as he noted in a hilarious tweet for for Nazis
There's just no supply They don't exist. As we saw with that A&E documentary where they were paying these people to be quote-unquote Klansmen.
I mean, as if they couldn't find a couple FBI informants to throw it out.
I must say, the fact that they have pulled out all the stops and called a guy like Milo Yiannopoulos, a completely harmless, basically a bomb-throwing comedian, If they call him a white supremacist, a Nazi, then what kind of words are they going to have left to call the people who really do think in terms of race and nation?
They've shot their wad.
It's great. All those words are just increasingly losing any kind of sting.
As we're about to move on, the most important way to magnify what you just said is the doubling down
by Nancy Pelosi, by the Democrats, in attacking Steve Bannon and continually to frame him as a
white supremacist or a white nationalist. In that town hall meeting Pelosi had, I think Tuesday,
January 31st, she continually called him a white nationalist and a white supremacist.
And in an official document that the Democrats are putting out, heck, in a Democrat trailer
they did on Twitter, they kept calling him a white supremacist.
They need to get rid of Donald Trump. The Democrats must put a bill to get him off
the National Security Council because he's a white supremacist, a white nationalist. Like, guys,
at some point people are going to scratch their head and look at you and say, well, wait a
second.
I agree with what this guy's saying.
Does that make me a white nationalist?
I mean, you're right. They've blown their wad.
And at some point, very soon, someone very important, I don't know who it's going to be, is going to give a speech where they say, you know what?
Keep calling me that. It doesn't mean a damn thing anymore.
And at that point... All bets are off as to what transpires because then we are that much closer to implicit whiteness becoming that terrifying explicit whiteness.
That's right. That's right.
That's all we're trying to achieve.
Just a little bit of explicit whiteness.
Anyway, let's move on to Donald Trump's first few days in office.
And I must say, I am cheering.
I think he has done great things.
He's done great things. This is just a small list of things he's done.
Of course, this latest thing that has got everybody's knickers in a twist, barring refugees for 120 days.
All refugees. It's just 120 days.
Come on, you know. But we'll just take a look.
And then from Syria, refugees are banned indefinitely.
Boy, I'm all for that.
And the 90-day ban, of course, on any travel from Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, and Yemen.
Now think about those countries.
Why would anybody be coming from those places anyway?
I mean, aside from Iran, which is a real country, you know, they have a lot of people there.
You might have some reason to have people coming from there, but Somalia, Yemen, I mean, how many Yemeni tourists are going to come look at the Washington National Monuments, you know?
In any case, that has just created an enormous stink, and as you know, people are calling it a Muslim ban.
Despite the fact that those are the very countries that the Obama administration had designated as either sponsors of terrorism or war zones.
It's not Muslim. It's not Muslim.
And places like Pakistan, which have a nuclear bomb, those guys can come.
No, but people are just fixated on the idea that this is a religious ban, which would be fine by me.
Well, what's fascinating, Jared, is what you just said.
The majority of people that are polled, Americans love this idea of this ban, and yet the media and left-wing Hollywood activists, they're all saying it's a Muslim ban.
It's a Muslim ban. Most people you talk to actually are under the impression it is a Muslim ban, and yet it's still popular.
That shows you that Donald Trump is not only correcting what he's doing, but he should
turn it into what should have happened after 9-11, and that should have been a complete
moratorium on any immigration from Saudi Arabia, from Egypt, from any of these nations, any
migration, not just these seven nations you named, but a complete blanket ban on Pakistan.
And my opinion is, if it's popular, even though it's being misrepresented by a media that
is incredibly hostile and a true opposition party to Mr.
Trump, go ahead and say, hey, And he did, actually. Donald Trump actually did say, call it what you want.
I don't care. It's going to be effective to keep Americans safe.
And what just happened in Paris last night with the attack at the Museum des Louvres.
I mean, again, it's as if this divine providence continues to present...
These circumstances and these moments of clarity when Trump is doing something and then an event actually transpires or unfolds and voila, there's your evidence to why we have to do this.
Well, yes, and that is why, according to Reuters, after this ban was screeched at...
By all the liberals alive, and in fact, the Washington Post, every single front page article the next day, every single one was screeching about this so-called Muslim ban.
Well, Reuters found out that 48% of the American population favor it and only 41% are opposed.
The rest are, as usual, just completely out to lunch, but more are approved than disapproved.
So all of these airport demonstrations, all of this editorializing, all of that represents a minority point of view.
And it's going to be a shrinking minority.
Not just a minority point of view, but the fact, the consolidation of the media, and so that it's owned by four or five, you know, Gannett owns all these papers nationwide, and they basically force...
And they force and enforce to the point you lose your job if you deviate from the scripted narrative.
I think they're based in McLean, Virginia, USA Today in Gannett.
You read the papers and they all have the same thing.
It's a sob story. They find some refugee who's been impacted by this and they try
and write some saccharine sob story to get people to think, oh I'm guilty.
I supported Trump now I have white guilt over this refugee nonsense. So we've got
It's just not working. I still believe that we're one major terrorist attack in the United States away.
If what happened at Ohio State when the Somali attacked, I think killed a couple Americans, ran over, I think, 12.
If that had happened under Trump's watch, I think that gives Trump an opportunity to start tweeting about this nonstop.
We are a moment away from Donald Trump really...
It's taking the mouth guard off of the fangs of the DHS. We've already seen that the countering violent terrorism of the DHS is countering violent Islamic terrorism.
This just happened a couple days ago.
It's phenomenal. The DHS has named radical Islam as what has to be destroyed, as Mr.
Trump pointed out in his inaugural address, that radical Islamic terror will be eradicated from the face of the earth.
Well, good luck, Donald. But, well, on the subject of sob stories, as you mentioned, this whole idea of basing policy on sob stories is just so typical Washington Post, typical New York Times.
And the Washington Post, they came up with this article after this refugee halt.
It's a temporary halt.
That 80,000 people in sub-Saharan Africa are at some stage of the USC refugee process.
And it can take years to grind through this, they say, oh, because of this wonderful, wonderful vetting that we're doing, you see.
And of those, about 2,000 are deemed most vulnerable because of urgent medical problems.
Or because of some kind of psychological damage that they've suffered.
Now, they write this article trying to pluck at our heartstrings and say, oh yes, this eight-year-old boy with a terribly complicated heart condition, he must be brought here right away.
So that we can spend millions of dollars fixing his poor defective heart and probably paying who knows how much in maintenance for all of these completely round-the-band women who've been raped a hundred times, who are psychologically this and that.
They say that this ban is particularly bad because of all of these people who are going to come to America and cost the taxpayers untold millions because people who come as refugees, they can go into welfare right away.
I mean, it's handed to them on a sober planet.
They never have to get off.
And they think that this is an argument against the ban.
I think most Americans, they're going to read something like that and say, I feel sorry for this kid, but we have got children in America who have problems.
I'm very sorry for this guy, but look, there are, after all, the UNCH, the High Commission on Refugees, you know how many million official refugees are out there?
I'd probably say close to a billion.
Ha! No, it's close to a billion who want to move, but the UNHCR, the High Commission, has designated about 20 million people.
They are official refugees.
That seems low to me because, again, how many people live in sub-Saharan Africa now with the massive proliferation of the birth rate?
Well, those are just people who want to leave.
Those are people who want to come live with white people.
Can't blame them for that.
We build lovely countries.
But anyway, there are 20 million people about there who the UNHCR has decided that really do have the right to go someplace.
Your backyard, if need be.
And Americans are kind people.
They don't want to think about these poor cleft-palate folks in camps in Somalia, people who need colostomy bags in Syrian refugee camps.
That's all very sad.
It's all too bad. But, sorry, there are limits.
I think most Americans are going to read that Washington Post article and say, You know, sorry, but we can't pay for that stuff.
We simply can't. We got problems of our own.
And like Donald Trump, they are American nationalists who know the difference between an American and somebody who is not.
It might be harsh here, but there's a great line from a Star Trek film where Captain Kirk is, they're talking about the Klingons and how...
Spock says, you know, they're talking about how they have to help him out because their mortal enemy is on the verge of extinction or something.
And Captain Kirk says, they got this distress call.
Captain Kirk says, don't believe them!
Don't trust them!
And then Kirk says, Jim, they're dying.
Captain Kirk just simply coolly says, let them die.
And that sounds harsh, but we're at a point now where Going back to what you talked about modernity and all the amazing advancements in medicine that have now been shipped worldwide to allow this proliferation of these incredible birth rates to this truly Malthusian nightmare that's coming.
That some people, some very smart people are realizing, wow, there are some resources are finite and we are going to be reaching a huge crisis in the next probably 20, 30 years with these massive population increases and just the fact that These nations are going to have to have massive depopulation because they just don't have the infrastructure to support it.
And that one graph that you've seen of the projection for sub-Saharan Africa population where it's going to be like 3 billion.
It's so astronomical.
It's a frightening number because you realize there's only one place you're going to start going and that's up north to join the colonization of Europe.
And I feel bad, I guess.
I never really allowed any of those commercials you saw when you would watch Saturday morning TV and they'd have, hey, for only 20 cents a month you can feed a bunch of people in Central America or Africa.
It's like, oh, well, I'm sorry.
Now that's 20 cents I can go and get a piece of bubble gum at a coin machine.
Well, there is one leader who recognizes that explicitly, and that is Viktor Orban of Hungary.
Correct. At one point, he was talking about Muslim immigration in the Middle East, but he says the real threat comes from the heart of Africa.
He's one guy who has seen those charts.
He's seen those screaming, climbing graphs of African population reaching 1 billion, 2 billion.
3 billion, as you say. Geometric growth, yeah.
And he knows where they're going to want to come.
So the more this kind of thing, kind of awareness, comes to Americans, the better.
But let's move on to some of the other things that Donald Trump has done.
He has ordered the government to create a list, updated weekly, of crimes committed by illegal immigrants in sanctuary cities.
I think that's great.
Let's get the facts on the table.
Also, he's established the creation of an Office for Victims of Crimes Committed by Removable Aliens.
Isn't that something?
And it's going to provide special help and professional services for people who have been victims of aliens who should have been removed but haven't been removed.
You know, the other thing that I really applaud him, he has put a complete freeze on federal hiring, except for one agency.
I'll let you go and spill the beans.
It's the agency that I think deserves the most government support of all, and that, of course, is ICE, Border Patrol.
He's going to add, according to some figures, it's 5,000.
According to some sources, 10,000 new people to keep the blighters out.
And he's mandated, Jared, that they have to...
Local jurisdictions and municipalities for police, they have to begin to comply with federal regulations that are already on the books that have been ignored.
Nothing that Donald Trump is doing is outrageous.
It's all things that were already on the books to be done.
I mean, again, remember, Barack Obama created executive orders that explicitly said you don't have to basically throw open the borders.
Let's be honest. He threw open the borders.
After he won his reelection, thanks to the rising tide of color vote that overwhelmed Mitt Romney's very boring, mundane campaign.
What we're seeing now is basically Donald Trump, who's being advised by some very brilliant people in the White House, who don't want to see what happened to California happen to the other 47 contiguous states.
That's right. That's it.
It's simply that. Well, exactly.
All he's doing is having the law enforced.
Now, I am still waiting for him to get rid of DACA. It'll happen.
I'm hoping that it will.
It'll happen. I thought that was going to be one of his first priorities.
But we will...
Well, I'm still giving it...
He's got a few more days left to do it.
But, you know, another thing that he started is that apparently they're considering a plan now to really clamp down on immigrants who come and put their foot in the public trough.
Yes. And according to law...
If you go on any kind of public assistance, within five years of coming to the United States, you're deportable.
And he's looking into a way to actually make that happen.
Now, to me, five years?
Why five years? I don't want him ever going on public assistance.
Exactly. Ever.
Twenty years after his year goes on public assistance.
Out, as far as I'm concerned.
But, and all the liberals are screeching and they say, well, this could be interpreted to mean that a child who receives subsidized school lunches because his parents are poor could be deported.
Fine by me.
Why is a child eating my lunch in school?
I don't think that that family belongs here if they're immigrants.
In any case. What value do they have as Americans?
And you know who said that? I'm going to point out, you know, Stephen Miller did an interview, MSNBC, maybe it was on the Sunday morning shows, where he said, we as Americans have the right to dictate who comes to this country.
It's not a right to come to America.
And it's not even a... I hate when people say it's even a privilege, because then you have to get to the basis of what citizenship really is and how you attain it.
And I've got some... I've got some radical notions on the idea of citizenship and who should be able to vote and how you should earn that, all elicited in Robert Heinlein's Star Trek Troopers, actually.
And we've actually heard some people even float the idea that Trump would allow illegals
who want to serve in the military to then have the right to try and gain citizenship,
which I think is a horrible idea.
Because you're looking at the exact same type of conscription barbarism that brought down
a number of world powers in human history, where you allow people who have absolutely
nothing to do with the nation state as existed before they arrived, then have the ability
to earn citizenship.
I mean, what?
That doesn't make any sense.
We're reaching a point though where I believe that there's going to have to be a major conversation
about what the Statue of Liberty represented.
It was a gift from our French friends to represent liberty in the 1800s.
It was to celebrate 1776.
It was supposed to go up in 1876, but you know the French.
They got delayed about 15, 20 years.
Came over in pieces. Yeah, exactly.
But the name of the statue is Liberty Enlightening the World, not Inviting the World.
It's the statue that says to the world, look, freedom is a great thing.
Go imitate us.
Enlightening, not Inviting the World.
And no, it's a complete, complete revision of the whole purpose of the Statue of Liberty.
It's that sonnet that Emma Lazarus tacked on it.
As if we want the wretched refuse.
Gosh, no, what a preposterous idea.
But no, I think many people are beginning to realize that this Statue of Liberty nonsense, even if we did need immigrants in 1900, we don't now.
A lot of people understand that.
Well, it's fascinating, you know, so-called rights, life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness.
No one has a right to life if they're drowning in the ocean.
You know, you can pursue happiness.
It doesn't mean you're going to catch it.
And the concept of liberty, let's be honest, that's not an inalienable right.
That's a right that you can lose.
And you have to fight to maintain your liberty.
Or guess what? Tyrants are going to come about and they're going to usurp and take your liberty.
Liberty is a right, if it's a right, that vanishes forever.
far more easily than any other abstraction we've ever conceived.
And as we invite these other people coming to our country, we have to go back to the point
that you mentioned in our brief talk about Berkeley where 71% of freshmen
up from 59% in 1992 believe that colleges should prohibit racist or sexist speech. End quote. And 43% say
colleges should be able to ban extreme speakers from campus compared to
just 25% in 1971. Now Milo Um...
So, Iannopoulos' liberty to speak is now, based on these numbers, it looks like people will just say, well, Milo, I've heard he's a racist, I've heard he's a sexist, I've heard he's a misogynist, I've heard he's a bigot, I've heard he's a white supremacist, he's a Nazi, he can't come speak here, based on virtually no evidence to support that claim.
And, you know, the whole idea of what I was talking about, citizenship, liberty, again, we're watching a point where people like Ben Shapiro will not even be able to go on college campuses because he somehow said something that, oh, hey, he's classified as a Nazi now, even though he's a Jewish dude.
Apparently, anyone who has ever been accused of racism, that's all it takes.
And haven't there been, let's see, wasn't there a Secretary of State who was disinvited?
I think Madeleine Albright?
Or, let's see, Condoleezza Rice?
Because she served under George Bush, who was obviously a racist and a white supremacist because she was a white man.
So Condoleezza Rice, a Negress, was disinvited to speak at some campus because she'd worked for George W. Bush.
No, but I agree.
If 71% of freshmen think that colleges should prohibit racist and sexist speech, this is extraordinary.
This is the younger generation.
These are people that we're turning over our country to.
And I just hope that those people become disabused of this kind of folly by this black-block kind of behavior.
Let us certainly hope so.
But if we can get back to a moment to all of the harrumping about the so-called Muslim ban, which I wish it were.
I agree. One of the things that's been said about it is that this is going to make the Muslims more eager to kill us.
That this is going to stimulate the terrorists.
Let's assume that that's true.
Let's assume that we say to a group, no, no, you're not welcome in the United States.
And they react.
They're the kind of people who are then going to say, okay, we're going to kill you if we can't come in.
Are those people you ever want in your country anyway?
I mean, really, what do these people really think?
Do they really think that Muslims, because if we say, no, sorry, we're not going to let you in.
And if they react by wanting to kill us, those are the sorts of people we want in our country.
A former blackmail, basically, that, hey, we're going to kill you.
And guess what? Some of the people we let in anyways, they're going to kill you as well.
Of course. As if the fact that we have drones flying all around the Middle East, blowing people out of wedding parties, killing women and children.
No, that's not going to upset them.
But if we say, no, we'd just assume you didn't immigrate to our country.
That's going to make them so mad they're going to kind of want to sail across the Atlantic and kill us.
It's hard to believe that the concept of restricting Muslim immigration is more extreme in the eyes of the mainstream media than a war that killed more than 1 million Iraqi children.
Who knows how many Sunni Shiite Muslims were killed, displaced, the civilization that was lost.
Due to the outrageous, egregious and pretty much illegal war that George W. Bush waged.
I mean, how is it what we're advocating just to maintain our civilization by restricting Muslim immigration?
It's somehow more of an extreme position.
Than a war that basically caused the colonization of Europe for Islam and created ISIS. It just doesn't make sense.
No. It just shows you how preposterously illogical they are.
A Muslim ban on immigration.
If there were such a thing, if there were such a wonderful thing, they are more concerned, as you say, that that's going to make them angry than the war in Iraq.
As I've said many times, at the Nuremberg trials after the Second World War, one of the crimes for which we hanged people was waging aggressive war.
Now, waging aggressive war, isn't that exactly what we did in Iraq?
A country that was no threat whatsoever to us?
And yet, no, no, by saying that they can't come, we are just going to provoke them and, oh my gosh, we couldn't do that.
Now, one thing that people don't seem to realize is that if you refuse a request, You've not harmed anyone.
They are no worse off than they were before.
It's the whole argument against not wishing to deal with maybe blacks or Asians or white people.
The idea of refusing to deal with somebody is not a harm.
He is no worse than he was before.
And people who can't come to the United States, we've not harmed them.
We might have hurt their feelings.
They might have been better off if we let them, but we've not harmed them, and as you pointed out earlier in this conversation, nobody has the right to come.
We choose, and we should choose entirely in our own interests, not anybody else's.
Until we remove Emma Lazarus's poem, which I think should be an action that Donald Trump works to state, where he simply points out what you said.
The gift of the Statue of Liberty was liberty enlightens the world.
This is a concept that doesn't have to be dictated as the neocons did at the point of an AR-15 or smart bombs dropped by drones on Iraq or How many other countries are we bombing right now?
Did we bomb starting with Bush to Obama now that we have a president who actually looks to domestic policy as opposed to trying to start foreign wars?
Hopefully that'll begin to end.
Well, that Yemen operation he apparently approved of, the one in which the special forces went and done, one of them was killed.
It was planned under the Obama administration.
I would have had much more respect for Donald Trump if he'd looked it over and said, no, we're not doing that.
But anyway, he's got this penis bonnet about how he's going to eradicate radical Islam.
I think that's impossible.
And I hope that he doesn't make any more enemies for us than necessary, but in any case, it's his domestic policies that I think are absolutely wonderful, and I give him an A++ so far.
Now, this, of course, assuming that he doesn't drop the ball on DACA. I don't think he's going to drop the ball on DACA. I believe that they have a calculated plan.
It's like a football game.
Jared, I know you don't watch much American football, but a lot of the times your best offensive coordinators, the week before the game, they'll script the plays for that first couple drives.
They'll have the plan. They'll say, we're going to run A, B, C, D, E, F, G. These 13 plays, the first 13 times we have the ball.
So for every down, we've got our first 20 plays scripted.
At that point, then, we're going to adjust our game plan to the flow of the game, to how the defense reacts, to how they change up the structure of their defense.
If they move person to person here, well, guess what?
We've got a tendency. That's plans.
I believe that Donald Trump, I believe that Steve Bannon, I believe Steve Miller, I believe that the team that he has around him, an incredibly...
One of the things that I found most fascinating about Trump is that I believe he really does value alpha males.
I believe he really does value the smartest of the smart, the best of the best, and it is stunning.
How white his cabinet is and how white all the people are that are around him.
I mean, some of these attacks by the left and the media where they talk about the unbearable whiteness of the Donald Trump administration, it is kind of shocking.
You're like, oh my gosh, what is Trump doing here?
Well, that's right. Not a single Hispanic.
How can you have a cabinet without a Hispanic?
It's like, how can you run a country?
This doesn't make any sense.
This is before all this wonderful diversity.
How is this happening?
But... What I believe we're seeing is that Donald Trump scripted what they wanted to do before he got in the White House.
I believe they had it planned out.
And now it's reacting.
It's putting people in place to...
As we saw when the acting attorney general said, I'm not going to enforce this.
What did Trump say? Hey, you're fired.
You're fired. He's good at that.
He's said this a number of times to people who've refused.
He fired Barack Obama's ICE director, the person who was in charge of the border security.
And guess what? He finds someone who will...
Understand that the Constitution is above their feelings.
The Constitution is above the anti-white zeitgeist, the let's invite the world and invade the world concept.
Donald Trump had things scripted.
I don't know where it was scripted to, but now he's going to start reacting to how the media...
And we've seen this. I believe that they're preparing to do some other really cool things.
Well, I feel sure that they are.
I feel sure that they are.
And I love this idea of kicking out immigrants that go on the dole.
And I think the overwhelming majority of Americans will think that that was great.
Find them, find them, and send them home.
Send them home tomorrow. Now, I suppose we should have pointed out for those of our listeners who aren't aware of what DACA is, it was this deferral for deportation or actual permission to live in the United States and actually work of people who were brought to the United States illegally as children.
Now, as far as I'm concerned, okay, they did not do it themselves, but when people came here brought illegally by illegal immigrants themselves, they've accepted stolen goods.
Correct. They didn't steal them themselves, but they've accepted them, and they have no right to live here.
None of this sob story stuff.
So we'll see if he actually does this.
But, you know, he did say some disturbing things after he was elected, before he was inaugurated, about how, well, you know, some of these people who were brought here against them, they didn't have anything to do with it, they're young, you know, they graduated from high school.
So we'll see.
I heard some rather disturbing waffling on that.
I have as well.
I believe that for every action that he does, it is to bait the media in and then to lay the right hook.
Lay a nice little left jab and then just a straight right shot.
I think... Here's my prediction.
I want to make a prediction that's going to be very bold, but I believe this would set the tone for things that are going to start coming.
I believe that they are going to get serious about some of the gangs.
One of the main things Trump talked about was the heroin epidemic, these horrific drug epidemics.
We've seen some things from Mexico where there's been some weird, let's unleash the cartels, let's start protecting illegals to the tune of $50 million.
They want a budget to protect illegals from drugs.
From judicial fines and stuff.
I believe that Trump is going to launch a strike on one of the MS-13 strongholds in the country.
I believe there are a couple here where you are located in Virginia.
And I believe that...
They will become a battle zone when that happens, that very first one.
And that an ICE officer or police officer working with ICE is going to be killed during that.
And that's when Donald Trump looks at the collateral damage there and he says, this is enough.
We're going to name the bill in that guy's or girl's honor.
And that's when he gets serious about deportation.
and my reading of Donald Trump it takes something to happen that sets in motion
the wheels where because Trump's never we've talked about this before Jared
A lot of these ideas that Trump won on, I don't think he's ever really had before.
He may have read about them, and he thought, eh, that makes sense.
But when he sees something transpire that then jogs some sort of memory he has from a book he's read, an article he's read, he's like, wow, they were right.
I was wrong. Why did I never think about this?
And the people he has around him, they're all saying, They're all saying let's even put a moratorium on legal immigration.
We've seen articles that stress this from Miller and Bannon.
I believe that it just takes dramatic examples to shake Donald Trump from his Apathy toward action.
It's true. What was the name of that lady who was shot in San Francisco?
Kate Steinle. Kate Steinle, yes.
That apparently had a huge effect on him.
He is a guy who is powerfully affected by these kind of anecdotal episodes.
And I think you're right. If he declared war on MS-13, MS-13 shot a few ICE officers, oh boy, that would really motivate Donald Trump.
Yeah. But, you know, this idea of getting rid of people who commit crimes, did you see that in Los Angeles they're very, very worried about that?
They're so worried that illegal immigrants might be pitched out on account of crimes that they are going to be changing some of the laws in Los Angeles.
In other words, sidewalk vending is illegal now.
And they're worried now that any illegal immigrant who is a sidewalk vendor, and they're sort of turning a blind eye at this, could be expelled.
And so, they're going to now make sidewalk vending legal.
They're going to take the very crimes that illegal immigrants are most likely to commit and say, that's legal after all, because they're afraid they might be deported.
Now to me, the question here is, Okay, well then why not housing code violations?
How about living in garages?
Illegal immigrants love to do that.
They love to live 25 to a room.
They love to put mattresses down wall to wall and save rent by living, you know, 50 in a house.
Well, we better make that legal too.
And how about having roosters crowing in your backyard?
There are noise ordinances against that.
Well, legal immigrants might do that.
This is obviously such a twisted view.
In other words, you have to abolish laws that certain people are most likely to commit because it might make them subject to deportation.
Isn't that an extraordinary mental state of affairs?
Well, it goes back to the idea of the scripted strategy Trump had.
We heard him make the overtures toward sanctuary cities.
It got everyone frightened.
We saw Miami go ahead and say, hey, we're going to comply with you.
We want to keep the federal money coming.
We're going to go to our prisons and we'll get these people out.
You saw that because they realized what the ramifications of losing that federal funding.
My belief is that the big battle that's coming, that we could actually see You know, it's fascinating to think that we were once guys who said, oh, the 10th Amendment states' rights, it's great.
Well, guess what? The whole script has been flipped.
Donald Trump is in charge of the federal government, and he's putting people in place that actually want to advocate on behalf of the American people.
We give it back to you, the people, as he said in his inauguration.
The Sanctuary City battle is going to be so fascinating because I could see him actually sending in the federal government to arrest a mayor who refuses to comply.
I'd love to see it happen. I mean, you do it one time.
Every other mayor immediately says, oh my gosh, I will lose my pension.
I will lose my health insurance.
What am I going to do if I'm forced to actually get a job in the private sector?
Mr. Trump, we agree with you.
We agree. You know, I have a suspicion that there are probably a bunch of mayors out there who almost see this with relief, who were sick and tired of having to house these illegal immigrants that they could just hand over to ICE to be deported.
I bet secretly they say, whew!
Donald Trump has made my life so much easier.
Now I can get rid of this trash.
I read an article about how upcoming there's going to be a big mayoral battle in Atlanta.
I think we're actually going to see Atlanta have its first white mayor since 1972.
Maynard Young was elected as the first black mayor of Atlanta.
I think Atlanta's flipped enough so they will elect a white mayor.
But one of the black mayors is actually, mayoral candidates, is running on a platform of keeping Atlanta a sanctuary city.
And Birmingham's black mayor, Birmingham's a 75% black city in Alabama, he just came out and said, we're not going to comply with President Trump.
We're going to stay a sanctuary city.
It's just like, wait a second. What Hispanic in their right mind wants to live in Birmingham?
You know, what ghost of Birmingham wants to live in Birmingham at this point?
And how many black people want illegal Hispanic immigrants competing for jobs, competing for low-rent housing?
Anyway, we've come to the end of our time, Mr.
Kersey, and I think that all of our subsequent broadcasts are going to have an enormous amount of excellent material to work on.
So we have had almost an oversupply of great material this week, and I think we can always count on yet more material.
So, it's always a pleasure to have you on, and we'll be seeing you next week.
Hey. Happy New Year, everyone, and I hope you've enjoyed the first few days of President Trump's actions.
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