Hello, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to another edition of Radio Renaissance.
This is Jared Taylor of American Renaissance with my regular guest, Paul Kersey.
Great to have you with us again, Paul.
It's always a pleasure to be part of this fantastic operation.
One of the most interesting pieces of news I thought this morning was that the U.S. Mint has decided to release a new design of the bullion coin, the $100 bullion coin, and Lady Liberty is depicted as a black lady.
Doesn't that just make your day?
As we were talking about before this program started, the US Treasury Department has promised to put Asians, Latinos, I'm sure some other victim status group, transgenders, maybe I think?
You know, the strange thing about it is, so far, they had Sacagawea, they've had Harriet Tubman, they've had historical figures, real people.
Susan B. Anthony too, correct?
Susan B. Anthony, yes.
These were people who were actual historical figures, maybe not all that important, but they wanted to make sure that we paid them sufficient attention.
In this case, it's gone a step further because this black woman is the symbol of America, the symbol of American liberty.
That's really going further than they've ever gone before.
And my guess is that even the most liberal white people, if they look at something like that, their first reaction is going to be, wait a minute, what?
And then they will quickly correct themselves and, oh, this is wonderful.
But I think even the most liberal people, when they first see that, they're going to think, wait a minute, this has gone too far.
That will be their initial reaction.
Well, just briefly, this is part of the Hamiltonization of America.
We all know that Hamilton was actually ardently against immigration.
He was a great American, actually, Alexander Hamilton.
And he's been retconned into somehow being this hip-hop founder.
And it's so popular, because what you just said is right.
White liberals are probably the target market of the Hamilton.
It's a Broadway musical. I've had some friends who saw it and they raved even though they paid $500 to see this ridiculous play.
And, you know, this is now seeping into all aspects of American society.
Just briefly, Hidden Figures, a movie that is well documented by a couple pieces I've done at V-Day, is based on literally no historical evidence.
But it's based on the feel-goodism that white people must get from...
Make-believing and retconning into the historical narrative that these three black women were somehow responsible for America's space progress and our greatest achievements when it comes to the moon landing and the Mercury and Apollo missions.
And this coin is...
Again, I thought it was a joke when I first saw it.
It's like, come on, this can't be real.
I mean, we see how well liberty is flourishing in Haiti and Liberia, which hilariously, of course, as you mentioned, Liberia means liberty.
And the descendants of the American Colonization Society experiment, of course, show how well that's flourishing there.
But, I mean, Jared, it is what it is at this point, and...
Well, you know, I can imagine this particular coin standing for much more than even you think, Paul, because she could be a Muslim.
She could be a voodoo priestess.
She could be a lesbian. She could be all those things.
Why shouldn't Lady Liberty be all of those things, too?
Well, that's what liberty means.
That's right. I mean, liberty now is a nebulous, undefinable term that whatever the zeitgeist of the day is, that is liberty.
And it can be stretched quite thin.
And that's the scary thing that the left doesn't realize, that the longer and longer you stretch out the definition of liberty, at some point it's going to snap.
We'd like to think so.
In any case, the big news of just a couple of days ago, of course, was Barack Obama's farewell address.
Modeling himself on George Washington, of course, saying farewell to the country at the end of his eight years.
And I thought a couple of his things were really quite interesting.
One of the things that he struck me that seems to be typical of the way liberals think is he says this, the long sweep of America has been defined by forward motion, a constant widening of our founding creed to embrace all and not just some.
This steady liberalization, they see that as part of something that is essentially American.
That it starts off with white men with money, they're the only people who can vote, and then you let white people without money vote, then you let, who knows.
In any case, America is this steady march to something that it was never intended to be.
That seems to be part of their thinking about what America is.
Not just a steady march, but a steady march at bayonet point.
If you think about American history and how a lot of these so-called wonderful moments and the forward motion were put forth by bayonet points, you know, famously, look what Eisenhower did at Little Rock.
That's true. You know, he had the decency later on to say that was what he regretted most about his presidency, was sending the troops in to integrate the schools in Little Rock.
But again, he also talks about, what does he say?
He talks about democracy itself in typically liberal terms.
He says democracy can buckle And he says, we must guard against a weakening of the values that make us who we are.
And that is why I reject discrimination against Muslim Americans.
That's why we cannot withdraw from global fights to expand democracy, human rights, women's rights, and LGBT rights.
In other words, if we don't do this, we fail to be who we are and democracy can buckle.
Isn't that staggering?
He defines America strictly in these liberal, progressive, crazy, egalitarian terms, and he also sees democracy in those terms.
It's funny because the president that he followed, I'm sure George W. Bush would find these words soothing, and he'd probably be able to go to sleep to this siren sound of beauteous democratic platitudes.
You know, I've got to be honest, when you read this, it's so Glaring to see the inconsistencies in this thought.
Because what are we going to do? March on Mecca?
To force the Saudis to give women rights, human rights, and LGBT rights?
Exactly. At a time when the Saudis are flexing their muscle.
I mean, if you want to see what Islam has become, just look at the unbelievable buildings they're building in Saudi Arabia.
Have you seen the clock tower?
It's the third biggest building in the world now, overlooking the, what is it?
The Grand Mosque?
Not the Grand Marsh.
The thing you walk around the...
The plains of Arafat?
Where the rock is in. Oh, the Kaaba.
The Kaaba, yeah. They built what amounts to be an amusement park.
It's overlooking where the pilgrimage takes place.
And it is the third biggest building in the world, and the Saudis are building the largest building in the world in Jeddah, where you enter and you begin the march to Mecca, which is going to dwarf the Burj Khalif.
So are we going to go in there and tell the Saudis, hey, hey, you know what?
LGBT rights are more important than building these buildings.
Stop this. You see, the idea that somehow the nature of America and the nature of democracy are tied up in spreading all this stuff around the world, this is just so completely cuckoo, and yet I think it's very widespread.
I agree with you. George W. Bush would probably just nod his head and say this is great stuff too.
The fact is, homosexual marriage was against the law in this country.
Homosexuality itself was a crime until, what, just a few decades ago.
Until the Supreme Court struck it down.
We're still on the books. And now we're going all around the world and saying, yeah, we had it wrong.
We had it wrong for, you know, 300 years.
But now we've got it right.
And you've got to do it exactly the way we're doing it.
Just the... Just the impudence of it, just the unspeakable arrogance of telling the world they've got to be like us, but this is part, in Barack Obama's mind, this is tied up with who we are, our values as a country, and our values as a democracy.
It's just breathtaking to me, but he's certainly not alone in that respect.
In fact, you know, when he was elected, I thought to myself, of course, his primary candidate in 2008 was none other than Hillary Clinton.
And I thought to myself, well, I'm going to keep an eye on this guy, and every time he does something that I think is really extraordinary, I'm going to ask myself, could I imagine Hillary Clinton doing this?
And you know, I think there has been only one or two occasions in which I could easily have imagined Hillary Clinton doing exactly the same thing.
He is black, and he identifies as black, but the way he behaves is no different from the way many, many whites would have behaved in his position.
Certainly Hillary Clinton. It's funny you mention how you wanted to keep an eye on Barack Obama, because before Sam Francis passed away, he wrote a very important column in 2004 about how The Democratic National Primary, where John Kerry was anointed as the candidate to run in 2004, Barack gave the main address.
And Sam Francis, who had long been an opponent of the idea of racial partition and giving up part of the country to break down, he realized that if Barack was elected in this column, Well, that country's dead.
And in a lot of ways, I think that a number of people...
That's one of the reasons why Trump won.
But it's interesting that you noted you wanted to keep an eye to see if he had the same inclinations and proclivities that a normal white liberal would have.
And I would agree with you. You're right.
But when you have that package wrapped in a mahogany bow, I think we get something that did force a lot of white Americans to confront where things are headed.
And We can't change what happened, but it is sad that Sam Francis was unable to write and discuss the twilight of America as a majority white nation with the Barack Obama presidency.
Yes, and for those of our listeners who aren't that familiar with Sam Francis, he died in 2005.
He was really the foremost philosopher of, I think, racial thinking in our time.
Really a brilliant guy.
And what you're discussing about this notion of partition or actual reconquest.
There was a debate on that subject in the early days of American Renaissance while it was still a paper publication.
I think it took place about 1996, 97, maybe 95, in that time period.
And there were two different ideas.
One was, okay, we can still take the country back, make it a white country.
And that is the position that Sam Francis took.
The other position was, well, no, it's too late.
The most we can hope for is preserve something from this wreckage, some piece of it that's ours.
And at that time, he was still arguing that we could perhaps take it back.
But that's right.
As you point out, with the election of Barack Obama, I think also Barack Obama's victory over Mitt Romney, too, with that overwhelming vote that he got from non-whites, so that despite what would have been a landslide for Mitt Romney back when the country was overwhelmingly white, he loses to a guy who can mobilize the non-white vote.
That really signaled the end of any real potential of our taking the country back in any meaningful whole entire way.
But yes, it's a terrible pity that Sam Francis is not with us.
I'm sure his witty and pithy and profound observations would be so valuable to us today.
But anyway, our best recollection and our best memorializing of Sam Francis is to continue doing our best to get out the word that he was so eloquent in getting out.
But, yeah, one last thing about this speech of his.
He talks about how he doesn't like it.
This is Barack Obama's farewell speech.
He says, when we define some of us as more American than others.
Now let's think about that.
We are all equally American.
Absolutely equally American.
You can be fresh off the boat.
You can be an illegal immigrant.
You can be, I suppose, is he talking about everybody in the entire world?
Well, not from Cuba anymore, Jared.
But is he talking about American citizens?
He's talking about people who are here? He's talking about everybody in the world.
I think, conceivably, he could be talking about everybody in the entire world because America is just an idea.
Remember, that was Hillary Clinton's idea.
It's an abstract. Americanness is an abstract idea.
If that's the case, you don't even have to be a citizen.
You don't even have to live here to be an American.
But the idea that there are degrees of Americanness, ho ho ho, what a repulsive idea to Barack Obama, I suppose.
But this is typical of this just juggernaut of egalitarianism that seems to be propelling everybody who calls himself a progressive.
But yes, all of this in a way sets the stage for our recollection here of the kinds of things that were said about Barack Obama.
You know, when you look back at the way he was treated by the media, it is such a stark and startling contrast from the way Donald Trump has been treated by the media.
I cannot think of any figure in American history who was more adored, more just slobbered over than Barack Obama.
And now, of course, his successor is unquestionably, I think, the most hated media figure in all of American history.
And the website newsbusters.com on January 9th But I think a very good collection of various quotations.
The title of their article was, Farewell to a Decade of Media Drooling Over Barack Obama.
And that's exactly what it's been.
You know, drooling probably isn't harsh enough an adjective to describe the way the media was willing to do whatever they needed to do, whether it meant going to the restroom with Barack Obama and helping him, not to be lewd, but to Provide the tissue and a hand to help wipe.
I mean, it was a terrifying...
It was as if he was a potentate who, if anyone dared say anything, they would lose their position.
And someone else who was willing to say something more over the top and scandalously embarrassing in terms of a compliment would take their place.
But Paul... It wasn't Pravda-style.
That's what's even more startling.
There was no commissar standing behind every single editorial writer saying, you've got to do this at gunpoint.
This was all voluntary.
That's the extraordinary kind of self-hypnosis that whites are capable of.
That's a good point. Joe Klein, there was a cover story in Time Magazine in 2006 This is two years before he even ran for president.
And he writes this, Obama seemed the political equivalent of a rainbow, a
sudden preternatural event inspiring awe and ecstasy. He transcends the racial
divide so effortlessly that it seems reasonable to expect that he can bridge
all other divisions and answer all the impossible questions plaguing American
public life. Wow! Wow! Well as we learned six years later when he sent three
members of his administration to Trayvon Martin's funeral, two years after that in
2014 he sent three members of administration to Michael Brown's
funeral and a year after that he sent three members of his administration to a
convicted heroin dealers funeral in Freddie Gray in Baltimore.
He sure can bridge racial divides.
In fact, Jared, we'd have to even go back up to what he said in his farewell address.
When he stated that, and I quote, For race remains a potent and often divisive force in our society.
I've lived long enough to know that race relations are better than they were 10 or 20 or 30 years ago." Now, I've barely lived more than 30 years.
Jared, do you feel that race relations are better than they were 10, 20, 30 years ago?
All you need to do is ask the American public.
Ask them if they think race relations are better.
You know, they started asking this question back in the 1960s.
And it does vary.
It bounces around. And there's no question about it.
When Barack Obama was inaugurated the very first time in January 2009, we were at our absolute peak in people thinking, this is the greatest.
We've gotten over it. Very quickly it went right back down and now we are as low as it's ever been since the 1960s.
Sorry, Barack. Sorry, Barack.
You may think, I think secretly deep down inside, he thought he was going to bring the post-racial America.
He never said, no, no, hold on, it's a big problem.
Not back when he was inaugurated, when all of this Messiah stuff was going on.
Did he ever say, hold on, boys, you've got high expectations?
No. I think he swanned into the White House thinking, I'm going to do it, baby.
But no, now he has to recognize that, no, we're not post-racial.
But he really thinks things are getting better.
Well, look at that report that just came out, the survey of police officers, where it turns out that police nationwide are...
Fearful of encountering African Americans, even arresting them because they realize that any encounter that goes wrong could be filmed and then they could be the next Darren Wilson who's in hiding.
No one knows his address. He's doing a job.
I know what he's doing. I'm not going to say what it is, but...
He basically wants to be a cop, but he can't be because he dared try and arrest the wrong black guy on August 9, 2014 on Canfield Drive in Ferguson, Missouri.
And thank you, Barack Obama, because now police are...
And again, Jared, we've seen the statistics.
The people who are largely disadvantaged by this distrust that Obama helped foment are blacks.
Black people in Chicago are the ones being shot.
Black people in New Orleans are the ones being shot.
Black people in Memphis are the ones being shot.
Not by whites, not by Klan members that A&E had to create in that fake documentary.
They're being shot by other blacks because police are too frightened of losing their jobs, their pensions, their career, their livelihood.
And you know, there are probably only one or two black people who are actually capable of seeing that.
People like Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell.
I think they're the only blacks who I've ever seen express themselves in any way that recognizes that reality.
All the other blacks, these so-called leaders, for them, trying to keep Hawaii on the hop, trying to blame us, is actually more important than the lives of their fellow black people.
It boils down to that.
It does more for their bank account.
Yes, it does. It does more for their sense of pride.
It does more for their sense that we have got to get anything we possibly can out of the hide of Hawaii.
That matters more than the lives of black people.
We would be remiss if we didn't point out that Sheriff David Clark of Milwaukee County is also someone who has been a tremendous supporter of police, and more importantly, he has gone after a lot of the...
The white privilege concepts on television.
I've been very impressed. I actually hope that he gets a position in the Trump White House because one of the first steps to taking back our civilization is the restoration of law and order and the battle against sanctuary cities and really equipping our police to combat the only crime that exists in a lot of urban areas and that is black crime.
Yes, I agree. Clark has been a very, very sound voice for reason on that.
And you're absolutely right to give him the credit that is due to him.
But back to some of this stuff about Barack Obama in the old days.
This is two years before he even ran for election.
Terry Moran, who was a co-anchor on ABC's Nightline, talking about what Barack Obama's like, he says, you can see it in the crowds, the thrill, the hope, how they surge towards him.
You're looking at an American political phenomenon.
Now, I bet you ABC Nightline never said anything like that about Donald Trump.
Whereas all of those things are true.
People react to Donald Trump exactly the way they were describing crowds reacting to Barack Obama.
But no, no, he's an entirely different kettle of fish.
And then, of course, one of my favorites.
This is not media drooling.
This is Hollywood drooling.
But actress Sarah Sarandon, at the time of the inauguration, this is one of my favorite Obama quotes of all time.
She says... Obama is a community organizer, like Jesus was, and now we're a community and he can organize us.
What's fantastic about that quote is, as we've seen since 2014, the so-called Ferguson effect, if he was a community organizer, if he was like Jesus, well...
That's really downplaying JC's accomplishments because you look at how violent all these cities are.
Especially places that weren't rocked by so-called Black Lives Matter incidents.
Cities like Indianapolis, which just had its most violent year ever.
And homicides, all entirely driven by the black population that just represents 28% of the city.
Places like Memphis, which also just had its highest homicide number, even greater than in the early 90s when the crack epidemic was going on.
Places like Birmingham, Alabama, Atlanta, Georgia.
These cities, nothing really happened there except for the fact that police were frightened to do their job.
Blacks were unleashed.
And we saw the consequences of the inability for the community organizer to rein in the community.
Well, the community organizer did nothing whatsoever to rein in that kind of behavior.
He encouraged it.
As you know, another one of my favorite remarks from his administration is talking about how if he had a son, he'd look like Trayvon Martin.
And when he interrupted, he gave a very unusual press conference at the time when the grand jury in Ferguson did not indict.
An evening, a late night press conference.
He thought it was so important to get out and slam that grand jury for not having indicted Darren Wilson.
He spent the whole time slamming them.
He said practically nothing about, well, maybe if...
This young black guy hadn't been high on marijuana and knocked over a convenience store and punched a cop in the face and tried to take his weapon away.
He might not have gotten shot.
Not a word of that kind out of him.
No, instead, Jared, as you remember, he was more interested...
And saying he understood why there might be a reaction.
At the same time, it was beautifully juxtaposed by CNN because you saw one of the buildings catch on fire.
I think it was one of the tire shops in Ferguson.
And I'd be remiss once again if I didn't point out that Ferguson is now 75% black and they've already had two homicides in 2017 in a city that is, I want to say it's 30,000 people.
And of course the usual suspects are involved, if If he had a son, they'd look like the ones who are the suspects.
You know, I'd like to go back and I'd like to read my favorite quote, actually, Jared, about Barack Obama.
And that was one we've all heard before, but it's MSNBC's coverage during the Virginia, Maryland, and D.C. primaries on February 12, 2008.
And Tip O'Neill's former chief of staff, Chris Matthews, he said this.
I have to tell you, you know, it's part of reporting this case, this election, the feeling most people get when they hear Barack Obama's speech.
My! I felt this thrill going up my leg.
I mean, I don't have that too often.
End quote. It's as if equating the feeling of Barack Obama merely speaking gave him some sort of sexual fantasy fulfilled.
I just saw your reaction there.
That's what this comment is.
It's fetishizing Barack Obama in a way.
I didn't read it as a sexual comment.
I just thought physical, almost electrical excitement.
I think there was a lot of fetishizing of Barack Obama in the minds of white liberals who are disingenuous enough not to want to live among them, blacks at all.
I mean, remember what Joe Biden, who hilariously just got the presidential medal from Barack yesterday, Embarrassing, if you think about it, what that represents.
But in 2008, what was it Joe Biden said when he was running against him?
You know, we got a black guy who's clean cut and can speak.
I mean, wow! Who wouldn't like this?
I think that's the way a lot of white liberals who do everything they can in their private lives to live as far away from blacks and the diversity they claim is so important and integral to the United States fulfilling its mission of democratic gobbledygook, whatever.
And yet, at the same time, this is what they want.
They want that black avatar We have to atone for the past, even if it means pulling down every foundational Apparatus holding up the country so we can remake it.
Well, the hunger of Americans for racial salvation in January 2008 was something extraordinary to see.
I remember I was invited on a radio program And I was in a discussion with a Yale professor.
I can't remember his name now.
And he kept describing this inauguration as transformational.
Transformational. That was the favorite word that the press was using at the time.
This is transformational.
And I said, look, I live in a state in which, I can't remember what year it was, I think in the early 2000s, no, maybe late 90s, Doug Wilder, a black man, was elected president of Virginia, I'm sorry, governor of Virginia, the heartland of the Confederacy.
And at that time, people were making exactly the same predictions.
This is going to be just the solution to all of our problems.
And I said, that did not change Black crime rates.
That did not change black illegitimacy rates.
That did not suddenly make white people all want to live next door to Negroes.
Nothing changed.
And it's going to be exactly the same thing in the United States.
Just because we have a black president doesn't make any of those things change.
And the host was so upset.
He says, this is bad faith.
He accused me of bad faith.
Bad faith? Look, I'm the only guy on this program who sees straight.
You people are deluding yourselves.
But that was completely widespread.
This orgasmic ecstasy.
And it went all around the world, too.
There were newspaper headlines.
I remember there was a Danish paper.
I think it said something to the fact that Barack Obama is more important than Jesus.
This whole Messiah thing was just completely out of control.
Here's another one. Nancy Gibbs in Time Magazine in 2008.
This is just after the election.
She says, Some princes are born in palaces.
Some are born in mangers.
But a few are born in the imagination out of scraps of history and hope.
Barack Hussein Obama.
Some princes.
He's a prince like those born in a manger.
No. To me, this is an eloquent testimony of just how desperate white people are for miracles.
They know nothing has worked.
Deep in their bones, they know all of those laws we passed, all of that money we spent, all of those role models we provided them, all of that moral effort hasn't worked.
What we need is a miracle.
We need a messiah. We need Barack Obama.
And Barack Obama, I'm afraid, has failed you liberals.
During Jeff Sessions' hearing the other day, both Cory Booker and John Lewis, two of the most important black elected officials, took Jeff Sessions to task because he wasn't sufficiently prepared to use the Department of Justice as an arm against white privilege, as Ann Coulter so succinctly noted on Twitter.
It was a great comment because that's right.
The DOJ does exist to stamp out white privilege, white civilization, and cities that dare arrest too many blacks.
They want to slap on consent decrees on the police to make it virtually impossible for police to do their job, which of course drives away businesses, lowers property value.
And basically make social capital a thing of the past in a lot of cities nationwide.
And it's fascinating that both Lewis and Booker invoked Selma.
They invoked Selma.
Again, Selma represents that city that holds our civilization in a vice.
Because whenever you do that, you gain the moral authority.
And until we're willing to go, let's march back there and take a look at what Selma looks like after 40 years of black rule, we are going to be incapable of disarming this morality at its basis until we understand why Jim Crow existed, why Sundown Laws existed, why our ancestors dared defend the present that they lived in and their posterity from the black dysfunction they knew existed and would pull down the civilization to levels that, well...
As Robert E. Lee noted, wherever you find blacks, civilizations go into pieces.
I'm paraphrasing. But until we can go back to Selma and march back across that bridge and say, this is your city.
This is what happens when we give away our birthright.
Crumbling buildings.
Signs in yards saying, no more.
Not no more.
Ice cream at dinner, but it means no more violence.
Selma has one of the highest rates of crime in the country.
It would have the highest homicide rate if it didn't only have 20,000 people.
There were 17 murders in 2016.
They have signs, yard signs, that read no more.
When I see that, Jared, I think you're right.
We shouldn't have no more, but it's no more of this.
We shouldn't allow John Lewis and Cory Booker to lecture white America on the failed promises of yesterday that will continue to be failures today, tomorrow, and forever.
Well, yes, you're absolutely right.
And the astonishing thing is the number of white people who at least profess to see America in precisely those terms.
I listened to Dianne Feinstein's opening remarks at those hearings.
She was the ranking member of the committee, and she went into this long harangue about what the Attorney General must do.
And practically everything she listed had to do with her idea of civil rights.
As if those are the only laws that matter.
Well, they are. I guess they are.
I guess they are. And if Jeff Sessions does not wrap himself around gay rights, black rights, immigrant rights, then he might as well not even be Attorney General.
Muslim rights? Yes, yes.
Muslim rights. Because...
None of the other laws matter.
It was really as if that entire hearing, and in her mind, I suspect it's true, the only thing that mattered was whether or not he was going to enforce the rights that she wants for her particular pets.
That's the way liberals see the entire U.S. government.
It's funny, the way I see the U.S. government is I'd like to quote Robert Heinlein, the great author of Starship Troopers, who noted that this whole concept of rights...
And Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness is just wonderful poetry in a lot of ways because the only thing that we have is duty toward ourselves, our family, and our countrymen.
And I think that that's one of the reasons why so many people are excited about the people Donald Trump.
I think it's the whitest cabinet since Ronald Reagan, which has been attacked.
I think people are really excited.
Americans, and I'm talking about white Americans who voted for Trump and won the election for Trump, they're so excited about the fact that Donald Trump is, even we might not like it, but he's appointing people who gave their lives to being part of something more important when it comes to these army generals, these generals.
They believe they still have a duty to the country.
These guys are American nationalists, but guess what, folks?
American nationalism unlocks the key to discovering what made America great in the first place.
Well, you know, that is certainly true.
That is a very important step in the right direction.
Even to be an American nationalist, he doesn't even have to be a racial nationalist to be a revolutionary.
Yes. Because people like Hillary Clinton, they see the entire world as sort of undifferentiated mass of people.
Everybody's potentially an American.
And if they are not going to be Americans here, we will bring America to you.
We will teach you all how to be just as progressive as us.
But to realize that, as Donald Trump does, there are some people who are more American than others, damn it.
And this is something, of course, that Barack Obama specifically denies.
That is something that Donald Trump does assert.
That's a very first step.
And eventually, once you've taken this realization that not everybody's an American, not everybody's going to fit in in this country, you begin to think in the kind of systematic terms that can lead you to a real understanding of what matters.
Speaking of what matters, going back, Jared, to what we were talking about, this glowing, drooling coverage of Barack Obama, I I really want to mention this one because it's so funny.
If you go to Google right now and go to images.google.com, just type this in, Barack Obama working out.
And look at some of these images of Barack Obama using what appear to be two and a half pound dumbbells doing these strange stretches and bicep curls and upright rows.
It's embarrassing. To look at these images, when you then see Michelle Obama doing incline bench, and she's got, I think, 40-pound dumbbells, and she's looking more manly than Barack.
I want to read this quote to you from Washington Post reporter Eli Saslow, which is from December 25th front page story about Obama's vacation fitness regime.
And he writes this, quote, End quote.
Uh, dude?
Maybe you're right. Maybe that thrill up the leg is not something I thought it was.
There's something going on here.
There's something going on here.
No, this is just idolatrous.
Absolutely idolatrous. They love that stuff.
I did see a video of Michelle Obama's workout.
And she was giving roundhouse kicks to the heavy bag.
I wouldn't want to have to stop that leg of hers.
Hey, she would have beaten up, if she could make weight, she would have probably knocked Ronda Rousey out faster than she got knocked down in that last UFC fight.
I think she might have.
She might have. Boy, she'd be scary in a dark alley.
In fact, I was thinking the other day, I might have mentioned this to you on another occasion, but...
Barack Obama's talking about how wonderful it is to have women in the military.
And he says, well, you know, women are at least as strong as men.
Well, when you've been sleeping with someone who's far stronger than you, or if you've seen some images of Michelle's Traps, And some of her muscular development in her upper body.
I guess you have an inflated sense of the average strength of females.
Exactly. If some woman is beating you up every night in the White House, maybe you're going to think that about women.
But anyway, he's a real piece of work, our outgoing president.
But anyway, we don't have him around for too much longer.
And apparently he says he's going to stay in Washington, D.C., at least until his children graduate from high school.
So he's going to be not too far away.
But I have a theory about Barack Obama.
Barack Obama has basically had everything handed to him his entire life.
And I think he's basically a pretty lazy guy.
I don't think he's a scrappy, hardscrabble, really work-like crazy.
He was always taking these $800,000 vacations, you know.
I think he's just probably going to sit there and let people come to him, collect honorary doctorates, address graduations, you know, make a few television appearances.
I don't think he's going to do much.
What's your view? I agree with everything you just said.
As Jack Cashel noted, he didn't even write either of his books.
He's a dude who wants to go on ESPN and do bracketology.
I have a feeling that this March, even though he's not president anymore, that ESPN's going to extend an invitation to be like, hey, why don't you come be a...
Why don't you come do some color commentary or some studio work with us?
We'll come to you. I think that Barack is going to spend a lot of time playing basketball.
I think he's going to spend a lot of time playing as much golf as possible.
I think I just read where a Jewish-owned golf course is considering disinviting him for being a member because of his stance on Israel.
A pretty fascinating story that Saylor noted on his blog that is making the rounds on some conservative sites.
They're actually happy that this is going to happen because of I think Barack is going to smoke a lot of cigarettes, and I think he's going to spend a lot of time away from Michelle and just watching ESPN in sports.
I really think he's going to try and spend a lot of time at sporting events.
I think he's going to go around the country.
He's going to be happy to be a citizen again in terms of being able to just go watch NBA basketball.
I mean, if... Just the fact that when you watch him on ESPN to do in the bracketology when he breaks down the NCAA basketball tournament, it looks like he's spent more time invested in learning about the starting five of a 16 seed than he has in foreign policy or domestic policy because that's what he really cares about.
That's the laziness and that's his avocation and that's what he'd like to be his vocation if it wasn't for the fact that Somehow he was able to win the Senate seat because Jack Ryan was such a horrible candidate and Mike Ditka didn't want to run in 2004.
And then from that point forward, they decided to load the rocket fuel and strap a big rocket to his back and send him into the stratosphere.
And you know what? He still hasn't come down.
I don't think he's going to.
Well, I would be delighted if Barack Obama finally finds his true calling, as you say, as an ESPN commentator.
I think he will. That would be the happy ending for the country and for Barack Obama.
That's what he wants! In any case, well, thanks so much for being on our program.