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Oct. 10, 2016 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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We’re All “Extremists” Now
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Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to this week's podcast with Paul Kersey.
As usual, we've had a very, very eventful and interesting week, and it's my good fortune to have Paul Kersey available to lend his insight and commentary.
Welcome, and once again thank you for being my guest.
It's always a pleasure. Well, Mr.
Kersey, what did you think was the most interesting and significant event of this last week?
Well, regrettably, it was the release of the private conversation that Mr.
Trump had back in 2005 that somehow has relevancy in 2016, the presidential election.
And you have to juxtapose that with the shocking WikiLeaks emails and the Goldman Sachs speeches that Hillary Clinton has given, which are jarring and eye-opening.
They should frighten any Democrat who actually believes that what Tim Kaine said last week, that they are serious about border control.
No, they're serious about erasing America's sovereignty borders and basically making the North American continent a safe place for commerce, for the 1%.
Yes, the contrast really is remarkable, isn't it?
Here is Donald Trump in a I don't want to call it a typical locker room conversation, but a not unusual kind of locker room conversation among men.
He's caught on a hot mic.
Is anybody really genuinely surprised?
Does this really change our view of Donald Trump?
I don't think it really does.
But here you have all of the media are in an uproar about this.
They're in an uproar because Donald Trump likes to have sex with pretty women.
Is that really so unusual, long man?
And he admits it. He talks about it.
Well, gee, okay.
I mean, I don't care for that kind of conversation.
I don't engage in that kind of conversation myself, but men do.
And that's just part of being the male mammal.
Well, there's one thing, Jared, that people really aren't talking about, and that is that one of the best-selling books of all time was recently made into a movie.
It's called Fifty Shades of Grey, which glamorizes sexual violence and domestic abuse.
And it's got an alpha male in it.
And you know, this is one of the best selling books in the history of known man.
And it made $86 million its opening weekend back in 2015.
And get this, its audience, it was 68% female.
The other thing about it is, though, these comments are being categorized as aggression against women.
I don't see it that way at all.
He's talking about making advances, but this is nothing at all like the kinds of things Bill Clinton has repeatedly been accused of and has been unable really convincingly to deny.
So, this is really a tempest in a teapot as far as I'm concerned, and vastly, vastly less significant than what we have found out about Hillary Clinton.
I think during the primaries, one of the most amusing things that her opponent, Bernie Sanders, said about her speeches.
He says that, you know, I'll quote him here, I kind of think if you're going to be paid $225,000 for speech, it must be a fantastic speech, a brilliant speech, which you would want to share with the American people.
Pretty clever, Bernie.
Well, we now know that these speeches were just the sort of thing that just tickles and warms the hearts of people like Lloyd Blankfin of Goldman Sachs.
And I thought one of the really interesting things she said was, it should be up to the financial industry to write regulations for the industry because they know the industry best themselves.
And she also talked about how The political system now is really hard on people who've been successful.
She says, quote, there's such a bias against people who've led successful and or complicated lives because you get all of this scrutiny.
Now, she's the one who's on her high horse because Donald Trump won't release his tax returns.
Golly! But, you know, to me, to me, I think the most significant thing that she said...
Well, there are two, you touched on it earlier.
She says that she wants us to live in a hemisphere with open borders and open trade.
That's the entire Western Hemisphere.
I mean, that includes Haiti, that includes Honduras, Guatemala, Bolivia.
She's saying all of those people can come and go absolutely as you wish.
And then the other thing is, she says, you know, Because the details are messy.
We have to have a public position and a private position.
Isn't that breathtaking?
Well, it coincides with what Carol Quigley, who I believe was one of Bill Clinton's mentors, wrote in Tragedy and Hope.
You know, he wished that a lot of the discussions that journalists had had would have been open for people to see the transformation of the country.
And here she is saying this.
And, you know, you have to go back.
Remember what she said about, you know, private versus public views.
Remember what she said that The New York Times reported on 2-13-16 when she said at...
If we broke up the big banks tomorrow, would that end racism?
Would that end sexism?
Would that end discrimination against the LGBT community?
Would that make people feel more welcoming to immigrants overnight?
And as the NYT reported, at each question, the crowd called back with a resounding no.
So it's fascinating to have this juxtaposition where she wants to wage war against the banks publicly, but her private comments are reassuring to the financial puppet masters.
Hey, I'm on your side.
Oh, very much so.
Very much so. Apparently, during one of her talks, Goldman Sachs, Chief Executive Lloyd Blankfein, he said, you go to Washington to make a small fortune.
And she didn't disagree with that.
And she also said that when she was a New York senator, she worked very hard to defend the achievements of her financial industry supporters and backers.
So just the utter two-facedness of this should really shock certainly the liberals in the Democratic Party.
And if I were Donald Trump in the debate that's going to happen tonight, whenever she takes a position, I'd be inclined to say, well, Mrs.
Clinton, is that your public position or is that your private position?
Yeah, tell us which.
Well, you know, tonight's debate, I don't know when this is going to be published, this podcast we're doing, but tonight's debate really will go a long way in determining where things are going.
We're seeing the more open-border Republican establishment I'm sorry.
You know, let's move on. And my whole hope is that tonight, when he gets an opportunity to speak, he brings up He brings up what he and Bill Clinton have talked about on the golf course.
He'll say, Hillary, if this is fair game, I can tell you what Bill and I have talked about.
He's told me some stuff about you.
Would you like me to divulge what he's told me about you, Hillary?
That's fair game. That's both private and we're going to make it very public now.
I don't know. That might be going too far.
Unfortunately, this isn't going to be published until after the debate.
I'd love to have a chance to talk to you about the debates, but we're not even going to have a weekly podcast next week because I've got to spend the next week in Paris promoting the French translation of white identity, which I'm pretty excited about.
But back to these debates, I think that would be a difficult thing to do.
There's got to be some other way other than a primetime nationally televised debate to point out just how much worse Bill Clinton is than Donald Trump.
Bill Clinton has been accused of outright rape.
And I think there's no question that his attitude towards women is, if anything, far worse and more exploitative than Donald Trump's.
And of course, as we all know, Mrs.
Clinton really devoted herself to assassinating the character and reputation of the women who came forward and talked about the terrible advances that Bill Clinton had forced upon them.
Just the extent of her hypocrisy here has got to be pretty well known.
And again, I'll go back to this main point.
Here is Donald Trump talking like a mammal in heat.
And that is supposed to be far more significant than these email messages that just go to show what a hypocrite, what a two-faced, double-dealing character Hillary Clinton is, as if we didn't have any idea of that beforehand.
And of course, the press is all whooping and whooping about Donald Trump, and just, it's sort of a side article about these email messages.
Now, you know, I thought it was very interesting just what this message is.
Apparently, it's a message from John Podesta to another associate saying, how can we prepare for what happens when the contents of some of these speeches and commentaries comes out?
I thought that was very, very interesting.
WikiLeaks got a hold of this email.
They're already worried about, oh my gosh, what are we going to do if it comes out that although she's now against the Trans-Pacific Partnership, she was talking about all these hemispheric open borders and free trade.
What a hypocrite!
What are you going to do? Well, interestingly enough, it's all come out now, but let's hope that the press Focus at least half an eye on some of this stuff rather than just reveling in the fact that Donald Trump likes to have sex with pretty women.
Well, if I could make one last point before we move on.
Remember that not one major newspaper has endorsed Mr.
Trump, and this was of course before these It's an unprecedented elite campaign.
It's uniting against an individual who really does stand against the globalist interest, which is what this election, which is what Brexit, which is what everything going on in Hungary, which we've talked about, and Germany, which the votes are against Merkel.
This is basically a line in the sand moment.
I don't want to put a lot of pressure on the man.
I know he's not going to listen to this, but tonight's debate will go a long way to determine whether or not we have a border or whether or not we have a hemispheric open border agreement with the rest of the Western Hemisphere.
To move along to the next story we want to talk about, on the American Renaissance webpage, we had an article by a volunteer who has been stumping through neighborhoods for Donald Trump.
I thought some of his observations were really quite interesting.
Which were the ones that you found most striking and what he had to say?
In reading the article one, this guy, I hope to see more and more of his stuff at AR because I thought this was a great piece and I think this is something that a lot of people feel like it's beneath him.
I've actually volunteered to do some calling and I've had a great time doing it but I've noticed that most people just don't they're not interested in coming to the way where we are in terms of I love the part where he tried to have the conversation about NAFTA. And then the individual said, well, where do you think Obama was born?
As if that's somehow, you know, opposition to and, you know, being a proponent for Trump obviously makes you someone who questions the authenticity of his birth certificate.
And yet they still had a fine conversation.
Yes, yes.
I thought it was quite interesting also that he found that when he walks neighborhoods for Donald Trump, it's not exclusively whites who are volunteering for this.
He said that, curiously enough, most of these guys, they don't talk politics.
When they get together over lunch, they talk about getting lost in some strange neighborhood.
They talk about some of the strange encounters they've had with people who support Hillary Clinton.
They don't talk politics.
But he was still surprised to see a number of blacks, a number of Hispanics, and even a Muslim guy named Muhammad that he walked neighborhoods with.
I thought that's a somewhat surprising thing.
No, to me, if you've done anything with the GOP, I won't say what state I'm in, but everyone that I've talked to who's been volunteering or who calls me to make some calls...
I can always tell by the way that they introduce themselves.
Their surname is not a traditional Anglo-Saxon American surname.
And sometimes they have very thick accents.
And I'm always curious, my gosh, is this a joke?
But it happens so often that I get an email right away from the campaign.
I'm like, oh my gosh, this is crazy.
This doesn't make any sense when you put together the media narrative of how Trump is somehow, though he supports affirmative action, and one of the main things he cares about, he talks about the horrifying effects of democratic policies on majority non-white areas.
Trump really does care about racial minorities, and that's one thing you really can't see in the polls, and that's one thing that you do see when people do come to volunteer, and I think that is something that If Trump wins and you start seeing exit polls come out that show he gets 10-12% of the black vote, say he gets 35% of the Hispanic vote, maybe 35% of the Asian vote, it's going to be one of those moments where you're like, well, what was it that attracted people to Trump?
And it'll be a while until people can really analyze what it was, but you're right.
It's not... Well, for one thing, and I don't want to say this and be too negative, but I think a lot of people who read AR and who have aligned themselves with the alt-right, they believe that politics is beneath them.
And you should never believe that or else you'll be beneath politics forever.
And you've got to volunteer.
Well, you know, I was really struck by the way Collins ends the argument, ends his article, and I'll quote it.
He says, finally, for the record, if Mr.
Trump loses and you have not donated as much as you can afford, or if you did no volunteer work, I hold it against you.
For every election to come, changing demographics will work against us, and this may be the last time we have a real chance.
If you set out your Saturdays nursing hangovers, you should feel guilty, and the way to get over that guilt is to get to work for Donald Trump.
If he wins, you're welcome.
I've knocked on hundreds of doors to help make it happen.
As you say, most people who think the way we do For the last, who knows how many elections, we have considered that it makes no difference.
So, why bother?
But this is an election that could make a real difference.
And I think Hubert Collins' message is one that our listeners should all take to heart.
This is an occasion in which what you do is important because the outcome is not Tweedledee, Tweedledum.
This, as Phyllis Schaffer used to say, is a choice, not an echo.
And so I think we should take Hubert Collins' injunction here at the end rather to heart.
And in closing, there are 30 days still before the election.
That's plenty of time to go out there and make a difference to volunteer, whether it's calling your local GOP and phone
banking.
I mean, look, we know that the GOP has turned its back on Trump, the establishment.
You've got the Speaker of the House disinviting Mr. Trump from an event in Wisconsin.
They're uniting with the globalists, you know, the Koch brother-funded wing of the GOP establishment.
has united with the open border Democratic Party to create this hemispheric utopia.
And this is what the election is coming down to.
You know, Drudge right now is the great headline.
It's Trump versus the world.
And I once heard a great affirmism and a fight between you and the world back the world.
Well, you know, I'm going to back Trump.
And if not, Jared, we're going to end up like those Like those horrifying shantytown that the Boers live in.
I think there's a 400 plus throughout South Africa where they have no hope.
And I mean, I know that sounds dramatic, but look, we already know how anti-white the federal government, the NGOs, the media entertainment industry and Gosh, Hillary's just going to continue Obama's policies, and we know how bad those have been for individual white people collectively.
Oh yes, oh yes.
Speaking of anti-white bias, I'm sure you saw this report by the United Nations Working Group of Experts on People of African Dissent.
I did. Yes.
Now, this report, of course, came after the end of a jolly boondoggle of all of these experts, presumably, spending time in the United States really discovering how wicked we are.
But some of the passages in this report surprise even me.
Now, the author of this thing, Mireille Fanon Mendez France.
She's not even a person of African descent, as far as I can tell from her photograph.
She looks like a perfectly ordinary French woman.
But boy, has she gotten on the anti-white bandwagon.
Listen to this. She says, in particular, the legacy of colonial history, enslavement, racial subordination, and segregation.
Racial terrorism and racial inequality in the United States remain a serious challenge, as there has been no real commitment to reparations and to truth and reconciliation for people of African descent.
Then she goes on to say, Now, let that sink in.
She thinks that when...
Michael Brown is shot after getting high and knocking off a convenience store and attacking a policeman and trying to take his gun.
This is a lynching.
This is racial terrorism.
It just boggles the mind.
Someone who has that understanding of the United States and that understanding of the world, you can imagine she's probably wrong about absolutely everything else.
Now, Then she goes on to describe what African-American men in particular, they face impunity for state violence.
And in her words, this has created a human rights crisis that must be addressed as a matter of urgency.
Now, did you get to the part where what they actually propose in terms of reparations?
No. I have, but I want you to go ahead and to lay out what those references are.
Well, I mean, you name it.
It's not just money.
I mean, that's for starters.
Of course, we've got to pay them money.
But special health care advantages, special education advantages, housing, forgiveness of debts of blacks.
This would be just a complete revamping of American society.
Say, if you're a black person, you've taken out a mortgage from Bank of America, apparently Bank of America is supposed to just forgive you your mortgage debt as a form of compensation.
But, you know, the whole idea, the whole idea of reparations for slavery is so crazy.
There's no legal theory according to which the descendants of a victim of a crime, if we want to call it a crime, have any call on the descendants of the person who committed the crime.
Say, if your grandpa killed my grandpa.
Now, presumably murder is worse than slavery.
Wouldn't we like to think so? I have no claim on you.
Your guilt does not transform down through the generations into something that gives me the right to say, okay, you killed my grandpa, you owe me a million dollars.
We would never accept that in anything other than this cuckoo situation.
Another aspect of it, of course, is that for the most part, if there's to be compensation paid for slavery, it would be the government who would have to do it, tax everybody.
Of course, the government never owned a single slave.
There's another absurdity about it.
And the other thing that occurs to me is if we're going to go back in time and say, okay, the government permitted something that was bad, so the government has to compensate the descendants of the people who suffered from this thing that was bad, well, what about child labor laws, you know? If we think child labor was bad, does that mean the descendant of every person who had worked in a coal mine at age 12 gets some kind of handouts too?
What about the fact that women couldn't vote until about 1920 or so?
Does that mean that the descendants of all women who couldn't vote get some sort of hand out?
I mean, this stuff is absolutely cuckoo, and I often think that it would never get any traction at all except for the fact that it is blacks.
It is some non-white group with their hands out.
At the same time, to me, one of the most striking passages of this document created by Mireille Fanon Mendez of France is, she says, the dangerous ideology of white supremacy inhibits social cohesion amongst the US population.
Now, Mr.
Kersey, can you show me any evidence of this dangerous ideology of white supremacy?
Do you see any traces of that in American society?
No, America has been cleansed of whatever vestiges remained of that ideology long, long ago.
I mean, John Derbyshire, in one of the more perceptive columns, and he's written a lot of them, he pointed out that we've pretty much dismantled our civilization to try and help close whatever gaps exist.
And yet, I just read the other day where it was either Fortune or Forbes was lamenting credit ratings still inhibiting low credit ratings for minorities still inhibiting Still inhibiting blacks and Hispanics from achieving the American dream of owning a home.
So I guess it looks like our financial wizards are trying to pepper the financial reporting with a vision of what's coming and that is another house in recession courtesy of lowering the requirements to own a home and forms a down payment because of the I guess the burden and the legacy of white supremacy.
I don't know. Whatever. We'll continue dismantling our civilization until, I guess, we're like the Haitians, trying to hide ourselves from Hurricane Matthew beneath whatever detritus we can find.
Well, that's one way to achieve equality, isn't it?
To make everyone equally poor and ignorant.
That certainly seems to be the direction in which we're going.
I would love to ask this lady Where are the signs of the ideology of white supremacy?
Where do we find that in America?
It just takes your breath away.
They come to America and they see something that is strictly, strictly in their imagination.
Of course, the United Nations I think they plan to send a delegation of observers for the election in November to make sure that black people have an opportunity to vote.
Were you aware of that? They're going to have observers at polling stations to make sure that black people can vote.
Well, not only that, you've seen the truly horrifying story that a lot of people really aren't paying attention to is the Department of Homeland Security is going to try and take over a number of the states that they say are vulnerable to outside hacking.
The government continues to make these extraordinary claims that it's Russia behind the hackings with very little evidence.
I guess it's good to continue to hammer as Tim Kaine and Hillary and the Democrats and the media continue to do that Russia is some Some vast enemy prepared to throw the elections in Trump's favor.
And the fact that the DHS is going to get involved in a number of states, that should give pause considering all that the DHS has done to basically ensure that America is an unsafe place for Americans.
Well, it's certainly true.
If the DHS under Barack Obama is making sure that our election is clean and unhacked I think that that can give us some suspicion as to the validity and the integrity of the outcome.
I hope that that would not be the case, but they're not the people I would necessarily want making sure that the system is working as it should.
But, you know, back to this question of reparations.
You know, there's a coalition of Caribbean nations calling on France and Britain, the former colonial powers, for reparations.
I mean, there's just no end to it.
They've all got their hands out.
And when the UN, in all its majesty and glory, comes marching into America and says, okay, you white people, you know, you've got to pony up.
I suppose they're going to make a tour of the Caribbean nations too and then go over to France and England and say, fellas, pony up.
You were bad. There's just no end to it.
And one wonders, one really wonders.
You evoked this image of these squatter camps in South Africa where you have these penniless white people living in just miserable poverty.
If The organs of the United Nations and if majority white countries continue to permit this while we still have a certain amount of influence and power.
Imagine what it will be like if our dispossession continues the way Hillary wants it and we become increasingly powerless.
We will just be plucked like Thanksgiving turkeys.
I can imagine it with no difficulty at all.
I think I'm going to go.
This study suggests that police agencies could diversify by hiring non-U.S. citizens, loosening up on background checks, and making the testing process to become a police officer a whole lot easier.
When you read this, you realize they basically want to place an army.
Throughout the United States, that's answerable only to the federal government.
When you consider the consent decrees that a number of these police departments are having slapped on them all across the country because they dare arrest too many black criminals as opposed to when the area is X amount.
Black and they arrest.
Why amount blacks?
It's like, well, that's obviously disparate impact.
How can you arrest so many blacks?
Well, because so many blacks are breaking the law.
I mean, this type of report that the DOJ study just came out with, this is a vision of the future where white males cannot be employed as police officers to finally end implicit bias.
And you know what my favorite loosening of the qualifications is?
They're going to overlook criminal records.
Well, a lot of municipalities across the country have already banned the box, Baltimore, Philadelphia, most notably, because of the shocking number of the citizens who have a criminal background record, which is also why they have such a hard time filling juries.
Well, you know, if you were going to pass practically any criminal law in the United States, The EEOC would stop you because it will have a disparate impact.
Every law has a disparate impact.
And if we had no laws at all, and we had our current attitude towards disparate impact—in other words, if a seemingly objective rule has a consequence on blacks and Hispanics and other favored minorities— That is worse than it does on whites, then that's illegal, ipso facto illegal, because it has a disparate impact.
Well, by that standard, every criminal law has a disparate impact, and you could argue that it's unconstitutional.
But anyway, that's the kind of tangle you get into when you go down the rabbit hole of liberalism.
Anyway, Brother Kersey, let's conclude with what I thought was a fascinating article that appeared in BuzzFeed.
And the title alone tells us almost all we need to know The title is, Nearly Half of Adults in Britain and Europe Hold Extremist Views.
Now, let's think about that.
If nearly half of the population holds extremist views, doesn't that mean they're no longer extremist?
Doesn't that mean they're pretty doggone mainstream?
But this is typical liberal buzzfeed idiocy to say, well, we disagree with these ideas.
We don't care whether 100% of the population holds them.
They're extremist.
It's hilarious. Of course, it has primarily to do with people opposed to immigration, opposed to European Union institutions, and people want their countries back.
But that is extremism, in their view.
This article, you're right.
I mean it goes back to the whole idea of the near uniformity of elite opinion on Trump,
on the idea of nation states, this just really ferocious opposition that exists to demonize
anyone who holds quote unquote traditional views about the nation state that their ancestors
helped build and that their grandparents, their fathers helped sustain and now that
has been passed on to them and yet is being violently pulled from them and if they dare
oppose it, well gosh, just use every ism or call them deplorables or irredeemable and
that will make them feel better I guess.
Yes, speaking of isms, in this same article.
They say that people who hold these views are subject to, well, they subscribe to authoritarianism.
If you're opposed to immigration, if you're opposed to the integration policies of the EU, and if you have strong foreign policy positions, that makes you an authoritarian.
Well, guess who they're trying to evoke?
Well, we don't even have to guess, do we?
No, we don't need to guess. It is just this standard business of dragging out Fascism, dragging out Nazism, all you want to do is preserve your country and boy, they just see red and they want to drop the hammer on you.
Anyway, well, I'm sorry again that we cannot be discussing the second Trump and Clinton debate, but I think we can agree in hoping that Donald Trump does well this evening.
Well, I think we can.
I think this is one of those moments As we discussed when this podcast began, when you look at what Hillary said privately to the Goldman Sachs crowd, it is shocking and it is frightening that somehow comments from 2005 by Mr.
Trump overshadow Her basically abandoning of upholding the Constitution, which again, I know when you hear people say that the Constitution has been disregarded for many centuries, almost since its inception.
But if you are an American, I mean, Jared, look at the NFL ratings are dropping and the NFL sent a memo out that says, oh, this has nothing to do with the national anthem protest by our black players.
That's crap. I think that a lot of people across this country Would, would, wouldn't listen to what we're talking about here, yet they would if we told them, do you believe there's an America still worth to defend?
They would say, without a doubt, absolutely yes.
And those are the kind of people that Mr.
Trump is has energized and I think most people who hear about this controversy, unless you
were attached to the Beltway right to what is called conservatism Inc, you are going
to rally against Trump.
But I think your average American who is who is potentially donated to these to these nonprofits
in Washington that have promised to protect protect the United States flag to from being
burned with an amendment or have said, we're going to help you guys return prayer to school
or make all these grandiose promises.
And yet the only thing that they've done is enlarge the bank accounts of those who work
for these organizations.
I think your average American laughs at what this Trump stuff is all about.
And yet when they're confronted with the the treasonous comments by Hillary Clinton behind
closed doors, it's only going to embolden them further.
And I think this is this moment right now that it's why the elite uniformity of opinion against Trump is becoming so, so over the top.
I agree. I think that for ordinary Americans, when Hillary Clinton says she looks forward to a day of hemispheric open borders, open trade, she's in effect saying, well, we're just going to abolish the United States.
The American flag will mean nothing.
Our borders will mean nothing.
Our language Our heritage.
It all means nothing. It's all going to be one huge North and South American multiculti mishmash.
I hope that Donald Trump really gets into these email messages and hammers her.
But we'll have to see. In any case, I'll look forward to talking to you when I get back from France after my little book tour there.
So always a pleasure having you on, and thanks so much for being our guest.
Best of luck in France, sir.
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