Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the latest edition of Radio Renaissance, and I'd like to welcome our weekly guest, Paul Kersey, back with his commentary.
There have been a number of things that have happened this week of great significance, I think, and one of the most important is the controversy that has come up around this new movie called Birth of a Nation.
What is this movie going to be about?
This movie is about the Nat Turner Rebellion, Jared.
A rebellion that has a new sense of pride in our country.
I saw a trailer actually.
I know you don't watch much television.
I happened to be watching a football game over the weekend, and there was a trailer
for this film which interspersed the Black Lives Matter protests in between the cuts
of the film, which are quite violent.
And a song was playing, and the whole theme of the trailer was, Rise Up.
And Jared, if you want to go ahead and talk about what actually happened during that rebellion
and what they're about to glorify.
Well, it is an astonishing thing.
The Nat Turner Rebellion, it took place in Southampton County, Virginia, in 1831.
And it ended up leading to the massacre of over 50 white people, almost all of them just women and children, murdered, dismembered in their sleep.
Some of them were woken up and then killed.
There was one occasion in which they thought they'd killed everybody in the house.
Somebody remembered that they had left an infant lying in his crib asleep.
They went back deliberately to kill that infant.
Nat Turner was really one of the most bloodthirsty characters in American history, and he is the hero of this movie that is being put together by a fellow named Nate Parker.
Now, yes, he's trying to make a point about how this is important today.
This is how he describes his movie.
This is a blow against white supremacy and racism in this country and abroad.
That's what he says. And as you point out, he is explicitly making the link between this slave rebellion and the Black Lives Matter movement.
Extraordinary. And as you know, this thing has gotten all sorts of publicity.
The studio operatives have distributed guides on the movie to roughly 80,000 churches, along with suggestions about how to weave the film into their sermons.
A movie about massacring white people.
Well, not only that, Jared, I believe they've also distributed teaching lectures to schools.
Which, it's funny, I've got in my hands right now, in 2014, they did the same thing with Selma.
And teachers are actually, well, first off, when Selma came out in 2014, they actually sent a copy of Selma to every public school in the country to show their students.
There's actually a plan to let all students see the movie for free.
Yes, and they've got classroom study materials on Birth of a Nation sent to 30,000 different teachers all around the world.
They had special viewings for the Congressional Black Caucus and the Conference of National Black Churches.
Black churches are supposed to be celebrating this movie about the massacre of whites.
Now, of course, there's another aspect to this, this Nate Parker guy.
You know some of the history on him, right?
Well, I do, but I'd like you to tell the story because it's important to understand that I believe it was 16, 17 years ago when he was a college student, he and the screenwriter for the film, they engaged in a gangbang.
They raped a white girl who then ended up committing suicide over all this.
And he has been unapologetic in interviews.
He did an interview with 60 Minutes where he...
It was almost as shocking as the fact that this movie is about to come out, that this guy in 2016 all used that sort of language.
How can someone in 2016 not understand how horrible rape is?
But more importantly, that you drove someone to suicide.
And this is an individual that, prior to this knowledge coming out, Jared, he was seen as the next big thing in cinema, as a director, as a screenwriter.
And he was touted as...
Being the director of a movie that was destined to win Best Picture and finally end the Oscars So White controversy.
That's right. His screenwriter, Gene Celestin is his name.
They were both students at Penn State when they gang raped this girl.
Celestin actually was convicted, but Nate Parker himself managed to get off on some kind of technicality.
In fact, he has essentially admitted that he raped her.
Because just in August, he told Ebony he was never taught the meaning of consent in sex.
What does that tell you?
Great Scott. I mean, that's the black community for you, I'm afraid.
Now, we are not the only ones to discover the irony of this guy doing this and making a big deal about it because one of the fictional events that he put into Nat Turner's life was a gang rape by whites of Nat Turner's wife.
This never ever happened.
And as a matter of fact, the sister of the lady who was gang raped by these two and the lady who committed suicide, she wrote an article in Variety in which she absolutely blasts him for putting this together and she says, this is exploiting my sister all over again.
There's been quite a reaction against this film, surprisingly enough.
You mentioned there's a New York Times article that expressed some sort of concern about this and You know, the New York Times article, I actually wrote about this at SBPDL because the article was almost...
I read it as the New York Times basically saying, hey, if this movie incites violence, we at least warned people about it.
The New York Times article, it actually has that headline, we hope that Birth of a Nation inspires and does not incite.
And when you read the article...
It's hard to read because at the same time, they're talking about, oh, well, the movie's got to make $50 million to break even.
We had such high hopes for this director.
I can't believe this happened.
But at the same time, they try and intertwine this false narrative of police shootings.
And that's what's getting so disingenuous when you read the media.
You keep hearing the words, this epidemic of police shootings, when...
Jared, you and I know this.
We're immersed in this world.
All of these police shootings turn out to be of black characters of questionable morality.
We know that Keith Scott, the guy in Charlotte who was shot by a black police officer, We know a couple days after the black riots, which actually turned out to be incredibly anti-white riots in Charlotte, we know that this guy had a horrible character and spent time in jail for gun violations.
All this with all the people who've done the shootings.
And yet the New York Times, they continue to pepper...
The writers for these liberal publications, they continue to pepper all of their stories with this narrative of anti-police that are going out there and shooting innocent blacks, when the exact opposite is the case.
I mean, look what just happened real quick in Alabama, in Sylacauga.
There was a white kid, a white student, who posted on Facebook, Blue Lives Matter.
Well, it's been reported that he was attacked and basically, he was lynched basically by 9 to 60 black people at a high school football game.
No one's ever going to hear this kid's name.
His skull was cracked in five places or something.
He's still alive.
He is still alive. But no, they really went after him.
And, you know, it's important that the New York Times is even glimpsing the possibility of incitement.
Correct. Because there have been some very serious cases of incitement.
One that we were just talking about before we started talking here was after the film Mississippi Burning.
That came in 1988.
There were a couple of blacks who came right out of seeing the movie.
And they said, do you all feel hyped up and want to move on some white people?
Which is exactly what they did.
They chased down this 14-year-old Gregory Roddick and beat him so severely he suffered permanent brain damage.
Now you were trying to get some details on him and you say, this guy's disappeared from view, right?
Well, what I did last night when you sent over what you wanted to talk about, sort of the outline for today's discussion, I decided to try and do as much research as I could on this 14-year-old Gregory Roddick.
And there's one article I was able to find.
It was an American thinker piece that mentioned this attack and then it would take you to a hyperlink of a
Wisconsin Supreme Court case and one of the details of this attack on on this 14 year old white kid was really
frightening because It pointed out that once the blacks once the black people
who attacked and you know permanently injured this kid for life
They they counted down. They said One two three and they chased after him
It was a game. So it's kind of like that saying, diversity is chasing down the last white person.
So I tried to chase down.
What happened to this guy?
The only other time that I put his name in quotations to try and broaden the search and really define the search...
The only other reference I could find was on Free Republic where someone mentioned this.
There's no news stories that I could find.
No one has ever tried to look back, you know, because you think about the past couple years, the movies that have come out that have had the potential to incite violence.
I know we're about to get to them. But Mississippi Burning was one of those movies that even the New York Times back in 1988 The reviewer was worried about what was going to be put on film because so much of it was fiction.
And he pointed out that this movie, I think the word he used was cackles with racial hatred of what white people were doing.
And it's kind of like when you go to Birmingham right now in Kelly Ingram Park and now 75% Birmingham.
Jared, they've erected statues of the Bull Connor incident where they...
Shot high pressure water.
You can actually stand and feel what it felt like to have a hose pointed at you.
And as you're walking through a sidewalk, there is a statue of dogs that lunge out of the walls.
So you can try and feel what it felt like to be part of the beneficiary of Bull Connor's Law and Order.
And most frighteningly in that Birmingham Kelly Ingram Park, there's a statue of a very militant looking, almost SS looking, White police officer who has a terrifying looking German shepherd lunging at a little black child.
This is a statue. And what do these statues exist for except to incite hatred of...
Well, that's exactly right.
And as you point out, this guy Gregory Roddick, nobody knows his name.
Nobody will ever hear his name.
Whereas Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, these absolute thugs...
They are down in history as martyrs, whereas that's absolutely what they are not.
And Gregory Roddick was attacked and given this permanent brain damage.
Maybe he's a vegetable.
We can't even find out about him.
We don't even know about him, despite the fact that this was a pure and clear case of just nothing but racial hatred resulting in near-lethal violence.
This guy is completely unknown.
Like many, many white people who have been raped, murdered, incapacitated.
We don't even know about them.
But yes, and that's just not the only kind.
Remember Django Unchained?
Remember that movie? I think it was really significant.
Jamie Foxx on Saturday Night Live in a script that was probably approved ahead of time.
He's describing the movie.
He says, I kill all the white people in the movie.
How great is that?
How black is that?
And that's just considered perfectly okay.
I remember seeing the clip and I wish we could put it in because people in the crowd and of course the SNL audience is largely good white liberals living in New York and They laughed.
They found it funny. And it's chilling because he's talking about the same thing that we're about to glorify, Nat Turner.
And I would encourage all the people listening to this, the people who read AR, to track down the article by Stephen B. Oates.
It's called Children of Darkness.
And it was published... Back in October of 1973 in American Heritage.
And it tells the story of the Nat Turner Rebellion.
And it's frightening to read this.
Unfortunately, it's no longer on the internet.
You can track it down through internet archives.
I was able to do that. That's where I was able to pull it.
What Jared is talking about, this movie, the joking about killing white people, Django Unchained, it was a Quentin Tarantino film.
It was a spoof of spaghetti westerns.
But this is a frightening evolution now of these white guilt exploitation films and the black rage that it should inspire that we're about to see with Nate Parker's Birth of a Nation.
And that's why bringing up the New York Times article of them saying it should inspire, not incite hate.
But at the same time, Jared, you pointed out, schools across the country have been given the correct way to teach.
It's in a curriculum. I just saw on Amazon that there's actually a book that was published today that teaches the right way to teach the Nat Turner rebellion.
And more importantly, as you noted, black churches across the country are...
Being taught how to weave this into their sermons.
And that is, wow.
Christianity is supposed to be, in fact, a religion of forgiveness, of grace, of mercy.
Not Nat Turner.
This is just astonishing.
Not racial retribution.
No, it goes to show you the extent to which this profound racial animosity has worked its way into every corner of our lives.
If preachers in black churches are supposed to base sermons on this massacre of innocent, sleeping, white women and children, Great Scott.
But, you know, back to Django Unchained, I remember after that came out, a lot of black people came out and tweeted messages about, this makes me want to go out and kill white people.
And I don't know, I don't recall reading about any that did, but it could have happened.
We just never heard about it.
They could have gone out and killed somebody, and it was just one other white guy who was killed by a black person.
And, you know, Louis Farrakhan, he said an interesting point.
He was quoted as saying, to me, the movie had a purpose.
If a black man came out of that movie thinking like Django, and white people came out of that movie seeing the slaughter of white people in their arms and teeth, it's preparation for a race war.
Well, we've seen this in American history.
I mean, back in the 70s, the book The Zebra Killings by Clark Howard tells a story that, again, it seems very few people in America want to actually have a conversation about an organized killing of whites where you actually earn greater acceptance.
What was it called? Earning your angel wings or something.
The more whites you killed, and if you killed a white baby, I think you got more points.
That's a terrifying book that I encourage all your listeners to read, but...
I mean, what I'd actually like to encourage everyone out there who's listening to this, try and help us find out information about Gregory Roddick.
This is a puzzle.
This is a puzzle that we need to try and solve what happened because here is a clear-cut case of a movie that when you see Mississippi Burning...
It's obvious this movie was made for one reason, to incite racial hatred toward white people.
In fact, the screenwriter admitted he was a British screenwriter in that article that's at the New York Times where they talk about, you know, it was published in 88 that said, you know, we're going to sift back through fiction.
It was a British director screenwriter that put it together.
I think his name was Alan Parker.
And he's basically admitting, yeah, you know, we definitely embellished a lot in this and I don't feel bad about it because we need to.
You know, to give them a little credit, I think that at least when white people make movies like this, I don't think they're deliberately trying to inspire black people to hate white people or murder them.
I think what they want to do is inspire guilt in white people.
Now, of course, at the same time, what they're doing is having this effect on black people.
It's very clear. But I remember writing about this back in the early 1990s, about how if the United States had a policy to try to make black people hate white people, this is the perfect way to do it.
Constantly remind them of slavery, of lynching, of Jim Crow, of segregation, of Bull Connor.
Constantly tell them that every failing of theirs is our fault.
I mean, it's amazing that there are not more black people who run out and kill white people just for sport.
After they're told over and over how wicked we are, reminded over and over about things like this Nat Turner thing in which, apparently, everything is exaggerated.
They make Nat Turner into this itinerant preacher who goes from plantation to plantation.
On some, all the slaves are nearly starved to death.
He goes to another in which there are these exotic, interesting forms of torture that are being practiced.
It's just one opportunity after another.
But this is made by a black guy.
When black people make these movies, I think it's not just To inspire guilt in whites.
I think it really is.
They're at least subconsciously desired to make black people, fellow black people, furious at white people.
Well, he's already said that.
His words state what the movie is all about.
And you think about, had Nat Turner's rebellion been successful and not been put down, we actually have a country that's about to be bombarded with a hurricane.
Where the descendants of a successful black slave revolution are now huddling in tens and they're trying to stay safe from a hurricane that we only know about because decades of decades of white exploration into space to put satellites up so we can track these weather formations and patterns.
I'm talking, of course, Haiti and the successful revolution in San Domingo where all the whites were slaughtered and then eventually all the mulattoes were slaughtered and then all the octoroons were eventually slaughtered, leaving you what you have now.
If I could make one final point because, you know...
To me, the movie that has been the most frightening in terms of trying to create that black rage and white guilt was Selma, which was also directed by a black female director.
And it was largely funded by Oprah Winfrey.
And they filmed it down in Selma.
And they went to show it for free, Jared, in Selma.
But there was no movie theater open anymore in 2014 Selma.
Get this. There was a movie theater that was...
That had to be bought by the city because an independent company could not run successfully a movie theater in Selma.
That, of course, it's now an 80% black city.
It has, I think, an all-black city council, black mayor, black police chief, black bureaucracy, and yet they couldn't sustain a movie theater.
Now, this is the same city that literally created all the moral imperative for For all that's happened, unfortunately, you could say.
And yet, when they went to show the movie to debut it, they had to reopen a movie theater that had closed down and then it was then bought by the city of Selma and then closed down again because they couldn't run it successfully even when it was a state-funded, taxpayer-supported institution.
So they had to revive this space just to show the movie, and then it's collapsed into uneconomic waste.
Just like the rest of the city.
Just like the rest of the city, and you remember back in 2015 when the worldwide press was making such a big deal about Soma, and they lamented how bad it was there, how much blight existed.
There was a tremendous quote from Jesse Jackson who was down there, and he said, you know...
We should make it illegal for white people to move their businesses out of a city that goes majority black.
It should be against the law for them to take their capital elsewhere.
And I remember thinking to myself, my goodness, this is a glimpse of the future if you're paying attention, Whitey.
because what he just let slip and then even more important was a line from John Lewis who was so instrumental in
bringing down Selma and creating this myth of the civil rights movement where he talked about how great a city Selma
was before the march how much how it was one of
Alabama's more important cities how much commerce thrived there and you go there now and the only thing you see are
our lawn signs that say please stop the violence same thing you see in Montgomery by the way stop stop killing each
other and They're of course referring to not police
Killing blacks, but blacks killing each other. I bet there are a couple of wig shops there, too
You can't have a black town without wig shops And title pawn chops.
Yes. But no, that comment by Jesse Jackson is really revealing.
It is. At some level, they realize they need us.
And that reminds me, actually, of a story we ran years ago in American Renaissance written by a schoolteacher, a white schoolteacher, who was teaching in an all-black school in Atlanta.
And it talks about some of the jokes and just kind of the crazy typical black behavior that And at one point, he asked this bunch of high school students, he says, well, let's imagine America without any white people.
What would that be like? And the instant answer was, we screwed!
At some level, they understand they need us, but they hate us.
These two things are coexisting in their mind.
They know they need us, but they hate us.
Well, and just to finish the discussion here on Nat Turner and the movie that is going to debut this Friday in theaters nationwide.
And it is going to be spoken about a lot because, again, we pointed out the New York Times is already...
I would say that article was them absolving themselves of any violence that could be created.
And I think it's important that people go on Twitter on Friday and see if there are messages just like the ones of, oh gosh, I want to kill white people that emerged after Django Unchained.
Because this movie, it has been...
It's marketing campaign has been cloaked in the language of Black Lives Matter, tying it all together.
The logical conclusion to take from this is, well, here's what one guy did back in the 1830s, Nat Turner.
What are you going to do about it?
Exactly, exactly.
But you know, even the New Yorker, which is one of the most relentlessly liberal, just crawling, white breast-beating magazines in the country, they had a story about it called, The Birth of a Nation Isn't Worth Defending.
I was very surprised.
They go on to say that if it were nominated for Best Picture, it would ever so slightly darken the Oscar proceedings.
Because, as they say, it exaggerates the thing and also they hold it against this Nate Parker guy that he raped this woman and puts this rape in the movie.
Now, of course, of course...
If you have an article in the New Yorker that criticized something by a black person, obviously it has to be written by a black person.
The New Yorker would never pay a white guy to write an article about this, but I thought it was significant.
Especially to use the word darken, the way that he describes that with darken in a negative connotation.
That's right. The Oscars, which of course the Academy of the Arts and Sciences, they're basically...
They're mandating white people lose their ability to vote because they don't have enough non-whites who are voting for these pictures, which is, of course, this fake Oscars so white, as if somehow the lack of black representation means that the Oscars have no merit anymore in judging artistic talent.
Well, I mean, obviously the process is completely wrong if it doesn't produce black films and black stars, and I mean, obviously it's prejudiced.
I mean, what more evidence do you need?
Anyway, on this subject of hate, let's move on to another interesting thing that happened
just last week, and that was the Supreme Court of the United States accepted to hear a case
about trademark law.
It's very unusual the Supreme Court ever cares about trademark law.
This trademark had to do with the word slants, which a Asian rock group had decided to establish
as their name.
It's been known as the slants, but the part of the U.S.
government that deals with patents and trademarks.
It has decided that this is hate and this is unacceptable.
So the Supreme Court is going to decide whether or not to overrule that.
Now this to me is a very, very interesting question.
It will of course have implications for the Redskins name.
That is something that could head to the Supreme Court, but the slants are going to get to the Supreme Court before the Redskins do.
And this reminds me of a very interesting story we ran in American Renaissance some years ago about a guy who tried to trademark the expression white pride countrywide.
And the USPTO declined to trademark this expression because he said it was scandalous and it was just unacceptable, hateful.
Anything with white having to do with white apparently is that way.
Now this guy went on and he appealed the case.
And as part of his appeal, he pointed out that there are many, many prides that have been accepted by the USPTO. Take a look at some of these.
Yeah, I mean, I'm looking at this article.
This was published in January. This was published back in 2005 at amrin.com.
The USPTO has approved trademarks, and I'll just read a couple of them.
African pride, African man pride, Asian pride, black pride.
Brazilian pride, Choctaw pride, Colombian pride, Cuban pride, Honduran pride, Indian pride, Jewish pride, Kwanzaa pride, Mayan pride, Mexican pride, Nicaraguan pride, Orgula Hispano, which translates to Hispanic Pride.
Rainbow Pride Coach.
Red Pride. And then my favorite, of course, is the San Diego Lesbian Gay Bisexual Transgender Pride.
And without, and finishing on a high note, of course, because they so often have such vibrant parades in New York City, I'm referring to West Indian Pride.
Those are all terms, Jared, that this article delineates the USPTO has approved as a registered trademark by the US government.
That's right. You can't use those phrases without violating somebody's trademark if you want to use it for commercial purposes.
All of those are fine, but anything that includes white pride, that's no good.
So, we will see what the Supreme Court decides about this word slants as a name for a rock group.
And ultimately, it's possible that the Supreme Court could then decide that it's not up to the USPTO to decide what is hateful or not.
So long as it's not obscene, as long as it's not libelous for some reason, those should really be the only criteria for denying a trademark.
But I think this is really a very interesting development.
We'll see what happens.
And I'm sure that the owners of the Redskins are watching this with great interest.
Of course, the fact that the Redskins got their trademark withdrawn, it used to be a
trademark and then there was some sort of appeal made and the USPTO decided, nope, nope,
nope, nope, this is no good, this is hate, and so of course now that affects all their
merchandise.
Well, that's not a bad thing actually, considering where the NFL is headed.
It's funny you say that because I do find wearing a redskin shirt a fun way to poke fun at our politically correct society.
Not that I'm supporting the football franchise in Washington, D.C., nor should I lament the fact that Dan Snyder is deprived of, you know...
I believe, Jared, by the way, that it was a black judge that overturned that trademark.
It was very rare. I can't think of another time.
I might be wrong that something like this has happened, where they've revoked this as a weapon in fighting what they foresee is a fight that must be won, even though I believe a poll came out recently that showed nine out of ten Indians have no problem with the term Redskins.
It's just white liberals who have access to Steve Saylor's megaphone and the press, they want to continue to make this a story.
You know, it is the most extraordinary thing.
Apparently, calling a team the Redskins is an insult to Indians?
Well, of course not.
It is a tribute to their fighting spirit.
The United States Army does not have an Apache attack helicopter because we're insulting Indians.
It's out of respect to Indians.
We have a Black Hawk helicopter also.
All of this is respect for Indians.
And you know, the crazy, crazy liberals want to have it both ways because If you name something the Indians, I mean, one theory is, well, red-skinned is a bad name, but even talking about the Atlanta Braves or the Cleveland Indians, just talking about Indians, just the objective word, there's no slur possibly implied, that apparently is an insult.
However, if, as in the old days, you had Southern high school or college teams and their mascot was the Rebels, that's glorifying the Confederacy.
Well, gee, make up your minds, fellas.
Are we glorifying people by using their name, or are we insulting people by using their name?
I mean, they just want to have it both ways.
Well, there's a pretty frightening story, of course, you know, that over the past 25 years, the University of Mississippi, Ole Miss, they've basically been denuding themselves of their Confederate heritage.
First it was no longer. Tommy Toberville was the coach who said,
please don't bring Confederate flags to the games. You're going to keep black athletes from coming to our school.
Well, that didn't happen. Black athletes still came to the school and Ole Miss was still winning four or five games a
year.
Then they said, well, we're going to get do away with Dixie.
We're going to do it with Colonel Reb.
Well, you know, we're going to do away with this. We're going to do with that.
going to do away with that.
Well, this year they actually mandated that the band could Well, you know, we're going to do away with this, we're
Well, this year, they actually mandated that the band could no longer play Dixie.
And people who brought signs to the game or the actual Mississippi State flag, which has
the Confederate battle flag on it, police were told to take them away.
So there were reports that police would confiscate signs that said, let the band play Dixie.
And Breitbart actually has a story up now that a student at Ole Miss said he was arrested
for having a state of Mississippi flag at the game.
He was actually arrested by a university police officer at the football game.
Now, Ole Miss is winning seven or eight games.
I guess having the ability to recruit black athletes to have a mediocre football team is more important than actually having your heritage flag.
Still on display.
I guess that's what Southerners are going to trade off with.
Is that really the case?
A student was arrested because he was waving a Mississippi State flag at a game?
I shouldn't say that in case there's a Mississippi State alumni.
It was the State of Mississippi flag.
That's, of course, the battle flag.
That's the only state that still has the battle flag.
And Breitbart, I read the article today.
And again, it coincides with the story that people who have...
Signs at the game that say, let the band play Dixie.
They're being confiscated by university police.
Well, you are aware, of course, there have been several incidents in California in which people who came to school with American flags had the American flags confiscated because that was considered a provocation to all the Mexicans who go to the school.
The old glory is now the equivalent of gang colors.
That's not just in California, where, of course, 29% of the public school population is Caucasian now.
Just 29%.
So you know where California's going.
In Oklahoma this year at a football game, some students brought an American flag, and they were told they couldn't have it because it could be seen as a symbol that would provoke animosity.
I believe the team they played had a number of Indians or Hispanics on the team.
And so now as we see America, where every city in the country is becoming a border city, a border town, You see the consequences.
It's not just the Confederate flag.
It is, as you mentioned, the American flag that can be construed as a symbol of hate.
That's right. Well, there's no question that slavery existed for far longer under that flag than under the Confederate flag.
But anyway, I'm being too logical.
Well, okay, our final subject for today is the vote that took place in Hungary.
Yeah. I thought that was very, very interesting.
As you know, the referendum had to do with whether or not Hungarians were going to accept a European Union diktat in terms of their requirement to accept asylum seekers.
And in the case of Hungary, they were going to make them accept no more than 1,294 asylum seekers.
For the Hungarians, that's 1,294 too many.
So, Viktor Orban, the Prime Minister, put this thing to a national vote.
And 98% of the voters said, we don't want a single one.
We don't want the European Union making up their minds for us.
Now, there was a bit of a catch to that insofar as...
In order for it to be absolutely legally binding, there had to be more than 50% of the electorate that would vote, and only 44% came out to vote.
But, as Viktor Orban pointed out, in 2003, 3.056 million Hungarians voted to join the EU. On this vote, cocking a snook at the EU, 3.249 million.
More, more voted against this EU mandate than even voted to join the EU. Hmm.
Anyway, as he said, the referendum will decide how strong a sword we can forge in the fight against the Brussels bureaucrats.
I like this guy's language.
I think that we're seeing the muscles that Brussels has are atrophying when you have
a competent leader who puts his people, when they're a statesman, who puts his people and
their present and their future posterity's interests at heart.
I think it's what we're seeing with Donald Trump.
Donald Trump has continually said, we as a country have the right to determine who can
come here, who can become Americans.
And as you've noted, Hillary has said the exact opposite.
No one has the right to become an American.
So that basically means that no one has a right to be an American if you think about
Well, the very idea of a nation putting their people first shocks these globalist bureaucrats and to the point where the Spanish finance minister Cristobal Montoro said that widespread use of referendums may lead to the death of of the European Union.
And Martin Schulz, President of the European Parliament, called the referendum plan a despicable idea.
Now, aren't these people saying that it's a terrible mistake to let the people actually speak?
If that's going to kill the EU, if it's despicable, isn't that what they're saying?
It's exactly what they're saying.
And I think back to what Wesley Clark said when he was the...
I think he was the commander of NATO forces during the attack on Serbia where he said there can no longer be ethnic nation states.
I think I'm paraphrasing.
But he was basically saying...
It's over. Nation-states can no longer exist as we knew them to be.
They must be multiracial, multicultural.
They must be derast in their heritage, of their history.
And that was the official policy of the federal government at the time.
I mean, we've seen that time and time again after the Fort Hood attacks.
You know, diversity must not be the casualty of this attack.
And yet, at the same time, when people are given the opportunity to vote, I mean, this Hungarian referendum, I mean, we could spend all day trying to figure out why Eastern Europe, which...
Served so long under communism is so much more vibrant and prideful of their heritage and their people and wanting to protect it as opposed to Western Europe and the United States of America.
Well, I think the answer to that's not all that difficult.
You know, during the Cold War, we used to feel sorry for these poor Eastern Europeans suffering under the yoke of tyranny and communism.
It turns out that on the other side of the Iron Curtain, they were protected against all those terrible poisons that have destroyed the pride that white people have in the West.
I think it's that kind of isolation from these horrible suicidal ideas that have really chewed away at the brains of the white elite in the West.
And to me, it's a real question of time as to whether or not, because we are still wealthier than they are, and wealth has a real appeal, whether or not they will shuck their healthy instincts to move towards the West in the hope of being as rich as we are, or whether they can preserve this pride and preserve their people.
It may turn out That it's only on the other side of what used to be called the Iron Curtain that white people will have societies worth of living in.
There's an irony to what you're saying, though, and that is the fact that as we're seeing in England, where people still think that immigration is the most important idea, even though they've been bombarded, probably greater than the United States with the whole, you know, cool Brutania, the whole idea that multiculturalism, you can't fight it is the future, it's coming.
The fact that we see in France, you know, Le Pen and some latest polls, Surging, doing fantastic.
And in America, for the first time, we have seen what happens when a politician runs, scratch that, when a statesman runs who puts the interests of America first and who is explicitly wrapping himself in language that Americans have only encountered in publications like VDARE and AR. I mean, yes, it's not... It's not drenched in pro-white language.
And it doesn't have to be. It's drenched in language that puts Americans first.
And still, you look at these crowds.
And I had a friend who actually went to the rally in Colorado.
Or he tried to go, but he got turned away.
And he said he... Even he was in Chicago when Obama, and this guy is actually a Democrat.
He just wanted to go to see what was going on.
He went to a rally in Chicago when Obama gave one of his big speeches, and he said, you know, the energy was great there.
But what he saw at this Trump rally in Denver, of all places, in Colorado, he said it was something that he, you know, even at a college football game where he went to get his degree, he said, I've never seen this type of energy.
Well, I'll conclude this podcast with a little story about my attempt to go to a Trump rally.
This is one that was held, oh, maybe an hour and a half drive from here.
I thought it was definitely worth going.
And people learned about it only 48 hours in advance.
Only 48 hours in advance.
Now, I got there at least an hour before the doors were supposed to open.
There was an enormous line stretching around the block many times.
And it was sweltering hot.
All of these patient white people waiting to get in to see Donald Trump.
None of us, well, a few of us got in.
Only about the first 1,000 in line got all the rest of us returned away.
And again, this is on only 48 hours notice.
And you had to sign up on the internet.
No, there is tremendous, tremendous enthusiasm.
And we hope this enthusiasm will carry Donald Trump to victory in November.
Well, if not, we might be seeing the United States of America under Hillary Clinton declare war on behalf of the European Union on Hungary and the other nations there, because we saw it with Serbia, and they can concoct and create whatever lies they want to to justify such an incursion.
Well, one concluding note on Hungary.
Whatever the Hungarians stand up for Europe, for Christianity, they're accused of not respecting European values.
I think to myself, how can these people possibly say that?
For a thousand years, Muslims were trying to conquer Christian Europe.
For a thousand years!
And it's because they fought the Muslims that there is such a thing as Europe.
That we can even talk in terms of anything that's European values that's not Islam, for heaven's sake.
And the people who are standing up for Europe today are defying European values.
My gosh, I mean, how far we have fallen into what insanity have we...
It's just off the edge of the cliff.
Well, Jared, I think your listeners know very well that our job is to survive this age so that this epic of history never is repeated again.
Because if we do survive, well, I think that means that those who are pushing are, well, are...
Extinguishing the light that we've tried to have for so long.
They've been trying to do that. That will be over.
If I could encourage listeners out there, help us find out about Gregory Roddick.
This is a story that I believe is vital to be told at AR, at American Renaissance.
And it will be told. And we just need your help.
To find out what happened to 14-year-old Gregory Roddick who was attacked by a number of black people after he saw the movie Mississippi Burning back in 1988.
So again, if I could also say, don't go see a movie this weekend because you might inadvertently see a film in an urban area where some people had just been inspired after seeing the Nat Turner film.
Birth of a Nation, they might have been inspired to do a similar act to what those people did to Gregory Roddick back in 1988.
Yes, indeed. Okay, well, thanks so much, Paul Kersey.
Always a pleasure to have you on, and we'll see you next week.