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Sept. 27, 2016 - Radio Renaissance - Jared Taylor
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Trump v. Hillary: The Knockout Blows He Could Have Landed
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Welcome back, boys and girls, for another edition of Radio Renaissance.
Again, we have our regular guest, Paul Kersey, for the Weekly Roundup.
Paul Kersey is the presiding genius of Stuff Black People Don't Like, one of the most insightful and, I think, also entertaining sites on the entire internet.
So welcome, Brother Kersey.
And today, what's the big news we have to talk about?
Well, we've got a lot to talk about, but of course we would be remiss if we didn't start with one of the most watched events outside of sports in television history, and that of course is Donald and Hillary's first presidential debate.
Yes. Now, did you watch it all the way to the end?
I did watch it all the way through the end.
There were a couple moments where I had to turn away and Wondering what was going on with Mr.
Trump, but I did watch all the way through, and I thought it was a very, very interesting night.
Yes, I thought it was very interesting too.
And of course, I'm not the first to point out that many of the questions directed at Donald Trump were specifically directed to what are considered his weak points.
But not a single question of that kind was directed at Hillary Clinton.
So the moderator was clearly biased, asking Donald Trump even the question about nuclear strategy.
That was obviously one that neither of them really knew much about, but he was the least likely to know much about it.
And that was just for starters.
Well, the way you just described it, I feel like the article that noted there was the third debater, Lester Holt.
That's the way it felt because he was jumping in.
He jumped in more to interrupt Donald than Hillary even tried to do.
Hillary never tried to interject a point that often.
That's true. It was Lester Holt jumping in.
Mr. Trump, you know, on the birther stuff.
Mr. Trump on your taxes.
I mean, only in 2016 America, only in the current year, could someone be taken to task for daring to use the existing, to use accountants to try and get their tax burden as low as possible.
And I thought that was actually one of Trump's best answers, because you're a normal American.
That was very early in the debate when they tried to go after Trump for not paying his fair share of taxes.
And I was talking to some of my friends who I was watching it with.
It's like, you know, this is the reason why you hire an accountant and to try and get your burden down to as low as possible.
This is why you give taxable donations.
Of course, I wished at that point that he had reminded Mrs.
Clinton of how she had deducted her husband's used underwear as a charitable deduction.
I was thinking the same thing.
Yes. Now, did she do that because she wants to lower her taxes?
Does she want to pay more federal taxes than she owes?
For heaven's sake, that was just silly.
And when she said, I have all these rich friends who think that we owe more, we should pay more.
Well, there's certainly nothing stopping them from writing a big check every year to the United States Treasury.
They know how to cash checks.
It doesn't require a law to make them pay more if they think that overall they owe more.
But it was probably something we should have started with.
It was your impression that Trump did well, did poorly, that Hillary did well, did poorly.
What's your overall impression of what the impact might have been?
Well, that's a tough question, but it's a great question.
I think Trump did fine.
I think Trump had opportunities for a proverbial layup or to hit the ball out of the park or to take the ball across the end zone for a touchdown.
He did on multiple occasions, but there were There were moments where he had that opportunity to really deliver that TKO blow, especially because I felt like he nailed it with the NAFTA going after her and her husband and kept saying, you've been here for 30 years.
What have you accomplished? What do you hope to accomplish?
And I felt like at the beginning, Trump, he did come out with a lot of energy.
And toward the end, I mean, again, he was sniffling the entire time.
Something probably wasn't entirely healthy there because Trump has, as he stated, he does do two, three, four events sometimes.
And Hillary said, oh, well, I was preparing for this debate so I could be president.
It's like, what? You're supposed to be out there, you know, because you're having some highly contested states, Ms.
Clinton. You should be out in Ohio and Pennsylvania and North Carolina.
But no, Jared, I think Trump...
He didn't have one of those really horrific moments that so many people expected him to and so many of his supporters are fearful of him doing to really be like, oh, that's an embarrassing moment, Donald.
What would you say could have been the knockout punches he should have delivered?
I mean, it's very easy for us, Monday morning quarterbacks, to say, oh, if I'd been there, I would have thought of saying this.
What are some of the ripostes that he could have fired back at her, do you think?
I would have said something along the lines of, well, perhaps that's what Hillary said multiple times that she was the candidate for the little people, small businesses, kept bringing up her father.
Donald could have said something, well, that's probably why Goldman Sachs won't let their employees donate to me and only to you, that you're the candidate of Wall Street.
I feel like that really would resonate with a lot of people out there who are living paycheck to paycheck.
And in a lot of cases, they can't even look paycheck to paycheck.
They're accumulating massive debt just to be able to afford for their children.
And I feel like that is going to be something that he's got to keep hammering on because there is a story today that billionaires favor Hillary to Trump 20 to 1.
So, I mean, she is getting so much money from these individuals that she claims are Donald's friends and that Donald has as...
As members of his exclusive clubs nationwide, I also feel that he really could have gone harder and harder on the NAFTA stuff.
Because again, he kept trying to say and bring up that, you know, your husband, your husband.
And that is the issue.
How many times did he bring up Michigan and Ohio in the first 20 minutes?
He kept bringing up those states.
And that's fantastic that he does that.
But, you know...
We'll get to this in a second, but I also feel that the racial portion of the conversation was one where it really served as a metaphor for this strange conversation of race that Americans...
We're told we should have.
Obama said we should have a conversation about race.
And it was so awkward.
And it shows how far we are away from being able to talk openly about why there is so much gun crime in the black areas.
Well, because blacks commit the gun crime.
Trump was refreshing because if you had Jeb Bush or if you had any of these other candidates, they probably would have agreed with Hillary.
And yeah, Trump was there.
Yes. There were a couple of times when I thought she gave him an opening that he didn't take.
When she started complaining about how, oh, you like to hang around these beauty pageants, don't you?
Implying that he's some sort of dirty old man.
What a perfect opening to talk about old Tomcat Bill Clinton.
That would have been a perfect opportunity to bring that up.
And I think that would have gone over reasonably well because she was making these insinuations about what a horny old guy he is.
Well, who's the horny old guy?
This is a long process, though, and you know Trump is going to bring that up because he did spend a very...
A strange one minute dialogue talking about how he would do it, but he's not going to do it.
He looked over at Chelsea and he was basically saying, well, I could go there, but we're not going to go there because I'm too nice of a guy.
I thought that was the weakest part of his performance.
Saying that, well, gee, I could insult you, but I'm just not going to.
I mean, well, you might as well insult somebody if you're going to say that.
I thought he closed on a very poor note by going in that direction.
The other thing that I wished he'd said was when, this is not necessarily an opening that Hillary gave him, but when the question was, how do we reduce domestic terrorism?
Hillary goes off on this long thing about, oh, we need better intelligence and we need better friendly relations with the Muslim community so they can tip off these.
He should have said something that he's already said and gotten a lot of support for.
The problem is Muslims in America.
The problem is Islam.
If we keep these people out, we will not have that problem.
I thought that could have been a very strong reply to you.
But... This is what the French call l'esprit de l'escalier.
This is what we think of, l'escalier is the staircase.
When we're walking down the stairs or walking up the stairs, that's when you think, I should have said that!
And we, you know, an hour and a half on your feet of concentration, that's hard work.
I've been in debates that lasted that long.
Your mind doesn't always follow, it doesn't always track, and you go home later and you think, That was a perfect opportunity to say X, and all I did was say X minus 12.
So we can't blame him for that.
But as you say, he's going to have two more chances, and we'll hope for some knockout punches at some point.
Now, I agree with you.
In general, I think he did fine.
I thought that both of them, frankly, began to flag at the end more than I think a really
intelligent and thoughtful person should have, either one of them.
Did you notice her grammar began to deteriorate?
I think that in her case it might have been due to the fact that my guess is she was probably
on some kind of uppers to keep her going for an hour and a half.
She was probably on every cough suppressant known to man.
She might have been on some sort of Adderall to keep her going.
My suspicion is that she was on lots of strategically prescribed drugs for this.
Who knows about Donald Trump?
In any case, I think both of them, their minds definitely slowed down as they went along.
90 minutes in that format where, for Trump, remember, as we already established, he was going up against two debate opponents, Lester and Ms.
Clinton, Secretary Clinton, as he kept saying, I thought, quite hysterically, the way he addressed her.
Hopefully the next debate they will agree to do an hour and they will try and actually have a conversation more so with a moderator who isn't as antagonistic toward Trump.
Because to me that's the main thing about the debate.
You go back to every question.
Donald Trump was, I think it was six times that Lester pushed back after Trump would give his answer to question his answer and he never did that for Hillary.
Well, we have to concede, though, that Donald Trump extended his allotted time with nearly every answer.
Donald Trump was the one that was constantly interrupting, interjecting, talking over Hillary.
That's his nature.
And I kept wondering to myself, how does the American people react to this?
Do they think that Donald Trump is a boor because of the way he carries on?
Or do they think this is a dominant man of the kind we want to be president of the United States?
Because there was such a difference in style, she would begin to say something and say, hold on, and he'd just bulldoze right over her.
Now, she would sort of go back into this sort of fake grin and smile while this is all going on.
Is that the way we want a president to be if the equivalent of Deng Xiaoping says something to him in the middle of a debate?
I don't know. Which do you think?
Which do you think made a better impression as a potential president in terms of their debating that style?
You know, if I were to be completely subjective, or I'm sorry, objective, Donald, to me, did about as well as he's done in any of the debates.
Look, let's go back to the debates in the GOP nomination process.
He performed poorly in almost every one of them, except for a couple moments where he would rebound and he'd have a very memorable line that we all remember when he spoke of his not having small hands and a, well, you know what he said.
I felt that Donald was assertive.
I felt that Donald was the type of person who wouldn't allow his opponent to say things that were obviously untrue or were objectionable.
He wouldn't tolerate that.
I think a lot of people... It was an alpha presence, and it's something that's so foreign to us when it comes to politicians.
You think about George W. Bush, you think about Barack Obama, and Barack is just lecturing you.
Everything that he said at the beginning, it was obvious that...
Say what you will about Trump and why he's running, but it's obvious that he really does care about this country.
And you can't get that with Hillary.
Her answers were just so...
Hillary's answers were so rehearsed.
A lot of people have said this.
A lot of people have said, it's as if she knew it was programmed, and if X happens, I'll say Y. If C happens, I'll go D. She knew exactly what she was going to say, and it got...
Again, I lost interest in the debate as it kept going because you could tell, like you said, 90 minutes for these two.
Donald's 71, I believe, and Hillary's 69.
And 90 minutes, that's a long time.
And they both knew.
I mean, here's one of the things I was talking with someone about.
And Jared, you'll appreciate this.
Think how many people were watching that debate last night.
I mean, I don't know the numbers of the last debate between Romney and Obama, but it was probably a tenth, if you've been that.
No, I think it was about 60-65 million.
Okay, well that's completely wrong then.
Forgive me on that part. But knowing how enormous this election is, knowing that...
We're literally on the verge of two diametrically opposed paths the world can take.
And I'm just wondering if it's finally beginning to weigh on Trump, like what the historic nature of this.
We've talked about this, but Clinton knows that if she continues down the path it's going, she'll be remembered for history as one of the great leaders of all time.
And she'll have, her and Obama will have their faces carved on Mount Rushmore.
Yes, but the pressure is equally great on both, I think.
The pressure, as you point out, it's absolutely tremendous.
Can you imagine walking into that scenario?
I have been before demanding audiences, but that is the most demanding audience in the world that you can imagine.
More hinges on that performance than practically anything we can imagine.
And I agree that Hillary Clinton sounded like a wind-up toy for the most part.
And that got very boring.
You could tell, you could tell that as you say, her mind is sort of waiting.
Okay, my trainer said when he says that, I say this.
And out it pops in this utterly programmed way.
Donald Trump is much more spontaneous, much more to the point, and I think, as you were saying, the sort of dominant quality.
In their heart of hearts, that's what Americans want in a president.
I think Hispanics, blacks, will find that impressive.
They will resonate to that at some level.
So I think at least on the sort of personality level, I think he won in that respect.
Here is a real man.
Here's a man who cares about his country, a man who is going to push through, a man who's not going to be rolled over by foreign leaders or anybody else.
Whereas Hillary, you know, she's got this sort of airy view of policy, and she just does not come across as a leader, for heaven's sake.
And that's what people want, somebody that's strong.
Yeah, that's exactly right.
I mean, it's funny you say that because the way that Donald talks about going to the black community, you know, I know a lot of the listeners out there probably think, Donald, what are you doing?
You're wasting your time. I actually think that if Donald gets between 10 and 15 percent of the black vote in some of these states, you're looking at historic landslides like in Ohio and Pennsylvania and North Carolina.
Imagine if he gets 10 to 15 or even 20 percent of the black vote in Virginia.
I mean, Virginia's got some areas that there's a lot of crime.
There's a lot of black areas.
I'm talking about Hamptons. I'm talking about down in Norfolk, Richmond.
I could see him performing very well in Virginia.
And that scares the Democrats significantly because they've got to get 90% to 95% of the black share in these states to come close to winning.
And the way that Donald spoke about when he goes to these communities and how it's touched him...
I think that's actually genuine when he's talking about going to these areas.
You know, I think there's a lot to that.
And blacks, if they have any sense at all, they will not vote for Hillary.
No way they should do that.
Who benefits if these low education, these unskilled Hispanics are kept out?
Blacks. Who are the most Christian group in the country?
Blacks. Therefore, they should be most in favor of keeping out Muslims.
And who will benefit most if there is real law and order in black communities?
It's blacks. This idea that somehow they're behind Hillary because she's some of this great lover of black people, what a crazy bunch of baloney that is.
If they have any realistic sense of where their interests lie, they will vote for him.
I just hope that that comes through in some way rather than this constant drumbeat that Donald Trump is this racist and bigot and an enemy to black people.
Because there's not a bit of substance to that.
No, there's not. And you know, finally, I was thinking about how I would describe this to a hostile journalist.
And I thought to myself, to the extent that Donald Trump made it perfectly clear that he is not all the things he's accused of, namely a fascist, a threat to democracy, some kind of demon, some sort of horned monster.
It's obvious, it's clear that he is none of those things.
And for people who have not been paying attention but have been hearing all of these things about him, I think it was good for them to see that he is an American who cares about his country.
By no stretch of the imagination is he a threat to democracy.
And I think that was something that got across.
Now, how much difference that will make, I don't know.
But, you know, the final knockout blow that I hoped he would make—now, I don't know to what extent this would have resonated with the American population, but I think, to a large degree, had to do with the whole crime business.
What do you think? Yeah, I felt like that was, again, it was such a tortured dialogue between the two, well, between the three, because, again, there are some aspects, well, the main aspect of that conversation that is black crime.
I mean, when you're talking about people being shot, a gun is an inanimate object.
Someone has to be pulling the trigger.
And in all these cities, you know, the FBI report just came out yesterday that shows homicides are up, I think 11%.
I don't remember the exact number of violent crime is up, but...
And you're talking about, I think, seven cities are responsible for this unbelievable growth.
You're talking about St. Louis, Kansas City, Chicago, Washington, D.C., Baltimore, New Orleans, I believe, are those cities.
And in every one of those cities, 90 to 95% of the suspects are black males.
And that, you cannot have a conversation about crime in America, about stop and frisk.
Again, because they kept saying, stop and frisk, oh, that's unconstitutional.
Well, sorry, Larry, I guess you never heard of, I'm sorry, Mr.
Holt, Lester, you never heard of Terry versus Ohio, which says this is totally fine.
And, you know...
See, Trump was right about that.
Stop and frisk works.
It's not been found unconstitutional.
What he failed to say was to make the point that you just made, that all of these interactions with the police reflect one fundamental fact, and that is this huge over-representation of blacks in crime of all kinds, and especially violent crime.
As you point out, you cannot have a sensible conversation about any of this and ignore this enormous central fact.
Why couldn't he have said that?
Somebody around him has to have read The Color of Crime, I'd like to think.
Or even if they haven't read our report, they must have read Heather MacDonald.
This is a fundamental fact that you have to deal with.
And Trump, if he had known just a few statistics to slam her with, I think it could have been very effective.
Well, the thing is, we know he knows some of those statistics.
He tweeted about it not three years ago when he talked about the color of gun crime in New York City, where he said, you know, you're talking about 98% of gun crime in Chicago has a black or Hispanic felon.
These are just the conversation starters.
These are all non-starters, though.
I mean, when you get, you know, you and I have talked about this offline.
This little program, this little podcast.
I've got a portrait hanging in my house.
It's of Alexander cutting the Gordian Knot.
And I believe every one of America's problems at its core has a racial problem.
Everything has started. Our entire push for egalitarianism and equality started because we stopped believing in our government actually working to benefit the posterity of white people, as we talked about that 1790 Naturalization Act.
This was a nation.
Sorry, Richard Spencer, you're a good friend, but America was not fundamentally flawed from the beginning.
America was, you know, a couple years after its inception, it was quite clear who could be a citizen and who couldn't be.
White males of? Good character.
And I don't think that included Muslims.
But yes, so, you know, Trump could very well have even brought up the Charlotte issue.
I mean, this is something that is a clear example of the way blacks see the world that is so different from the way whites see the world.
You followed this version of this latest chapter in this ongoing saga of black violence, black complete violence.
Blinkered view of reality.
Tell us, what are the lessons that you draw from this particular version of this unending saga?
How frighteningly close we are to the fabric of America unraveling before our eyes.
Again, a rumor that a black guy is reading a book.
Somehow sparks social media protests where you can get an army this quickly organized.
And that's what these mobs are.
They are an army. You've seen the videos.
You saw the video of the white guy being attacked by the six or seven or eight black guys in that parking garage, which, by the way, that is right by the...
If you've ever been to Charlotte, I've been there numerous times.
It's an absolutely gorgeous city.
That's right by the Bank of America and what was the Wachovia, but is now the Wells Fargo Tower and the Duke Energy Building.
So it's in the heart of downtown.
You know, Charlotte, this whole incident with Keith Scott is fascinating because we just found out last night.
The story broke that, my gosh.
I mean, this guy didn't have a book.
This guy had a stolen firearm.
And this...
Then had the fuel to spark almost a week of some very frighteningly violent protests where they shut down 85.
The Charlotte Observer just put out a story of the 911 calls from the motorist.
And it's like a zombie apocalypse.
Halloween is vastly approaching and a lot of people are going to be watching these zombie movies of the George Romero variety, Night of the Living Dead.
This is what that...
Night of the Living Dead was made during a lot of those riots in the late 60s.
And there was a lot of anxiety and that tapped into it.
And that's one of the reasons why I've always felt like there is a...
Why the show The Walking Dead on AMC is so popular.
Because I think a lot of people do sense there is this...
It's not supernatural, but they understand there's a correlation between what's going on.
And it's the most popular show on cable.
In other words, this is coming your way, folks.
And we saw a preview of it right there in Charlotte.
Well, of course, I feel compelled to mention another obvious aspect of it.
The guy who did the shooting is black.
The police chief is black.
But that doesn't matter.
For blacks, it seems to me that this simply has become, it's almost a Pavlovian response.
It's an opportunity to vent their hatred of whites.
That's what it boils down to.
And you know, Donald Trump, to his credit, in the debate last night, pointed out that Dallas has had, under the black police chief who just resigned, they had had some of the great, a lot of the press, a lot of the media, and the Obama administration even, And Donald even said that wasn't enough for the five white officers.
He didn't say five white officers.
Maybe Donald is a little frightened to point out crime because he's had the opportunity to say...
You know, Black Lives Matter, a Black Lives Matter-inspired terrorist targeted white police officers killing five.
He could have said that there. He did bring it up, though, pointing out that this nonsense of community policing, it doesn't work because of what you just said.
This hatred that exists amongst so much of the black population, which in and of itself...
That's a frightening thought, that this much hatred does exist.
And of course, idiot white people all around the country were rooting for the black demonstrators.
I was particularly struck by what happened at University of Vermont.
They fly the Black Lives Matter flag right next to the US flag and the state flag, right on campus, on the very day the riots start.
What does this say? I mean, this is such a perfect example of the stupidity and blindness of white people.
They are celebrating the flag of these people who deep down are motivated primarily by hatred of whites.
And, of course, there was likewise these three Walmart workers at a McDonough, Georgia Walmart who refused to decorate a retirement cake for an officer because it said Blue Lives Matter on it.
There was a rally held in Tulsa after the shooting of the black guy, which I believe is a suicide by cop.
I'm surprised no one's brought this up.
Because he was the guy who was killed in that video.
He called the cops himself.
And he was, of course, strangely in the middle of the road.
Well, there was a vigil held.
And a lot of Black Lives Matter protesters got together and they let people talk.
And one of the black protesters gets up and says, The only good white man is a dead white man.
And very few media outlets, even so-called conservative outlets, have tried to showcase this video because it is.
And you do hear a lot of people say, no, no, don't say that, don't say that.
But there is a lot of clapping after he says, quote, the only good white man is a dead white man.
Well, and Saturday night, just last Saturday night, while they were yelling and looting in Charlotte, in Houston there was a protest with people shouting, Fuck Blue Lives!
Pig Pig! Bang Bang!
I mean, they might as well say, fuck white lives.
That's what it boils down to.
That is what is meant by that expression.
And here's one of the people who was the leader of the protest saying, we want to go outside without worrying about if police are going to kill us today or harass us today.
I think at some level they genuinely believe this bunkum, that somehow the police are just sort of cruising around with their guns at the ready.
Where's a black guy that I can shoot?
And I think at some level, whether Hillary believes that, she certainly is prepared to go along with it.
I think that's one of the great defects of white liberalism, of which is, well, at least a very self-centered example.
Going back to the debate, Trump brought up that line about blacks being super predators.
You're the real racist.
Well, actually, Donald, if we just look at the statistics that came out from the FBI, it's quite obvious that Hillary was coming much closer to the truth.
Then you are being and trying to say, oh, Dems are the real racist type comment.
Exactly. I thought to myself, I thought to myself, he could have said, Hillary, you know, you were on to something in those days.
But because you are such a flip-flopper, you are such a spineless politician, you've backed off a position that was, in fact...
Right! You were right.
One of the other things that Hillary brought up, she kept saying, you know, we've locked up so many black and brown people, and yet we're doing this for the same crimes that white people commit.
They get longer sentences. But she also said in the same sentence, crime is down.
And I thought to myself, wait a second, did Hillary just basically say that even though...
Black and brown people who are being put in jail for minor offenses, which is bad, yet crime is down.
Isn't there a correlation there as to why crime might be down?
You're being too logical.
You're being too logical.
Remember, this is all a game of emotions.
It's all a game of, as we hear our good friend James Kirkpatrick say at V-Dare, virtue signaling.
Right. Well, I guess we should conclude with yet another victim of all of this, baseball player Mr.
Steve Clevenger. You know, I thought it was interesting, the particular tweets he tweeted about Charlotte.
Let me read to you the words that got him suspended for the rest of the season.
Black people beating whites when a thug got shot holding a gun by a black officer.
Ha ha, he says. Cracks me up.
Keep kneeling for the anthem.
Okay, that was sin number one.
Then, Black Lives Matter is pathetic again.
Obama, you are pathetic once again.
Everyone should be locked behind bars like animals.
Now, it's not always clear exactly what the point he's making here, but obviously he has committed some act of profound heresy.
This is making fun of part of the secular religion of our time, so he's got to go without, as I understand it, $32,000 for the rest of the season.
Yeah, you know, just real quick.
Steve Plovenger was a backup catcher for the Seattle Mariners.
He was already injured, so he's on the DL. He makes these comments on Twitter.
And a radio host actually took screenshots of them in Seattle and posted them.
That's how this got out, because he didn't have that many followers.
He was a 30-year-old journeyman catcher.
And immediately, this becomes a huge story.
The Mariners put out a report.
They're like, we strongly condemn this.
And then they took that extra extraordinary step.
You're going to be suspended without pay for the rest of the season.
Now, this is something that John Rocker didn't even do.
Back in 2000, when the Sports Illustrated article came out, he was forced to go to diversity training, which he actually never went to.
And I think he had to pay a little bit of a fine.
But One of the main white sportscasters who used to be on ESPN, a guy named Skip Bayless, he's now on Fox Sports.
He actually said in a very heated and just...
Dripping with insincerity in a lot of ways because you go back to that white liberalism, what they really believe and how it's so strange.
He said, I'm ashamed to have the same skin color as Steve Clevenger.
And he condemned in the harshest words, you know, he should be basically, he should be driven from baseball.
He should never be allowed to play again because of this.
What always amazes me about these things is that almost no one actually analyzes what he says.
I think if he hadn't used the word animals, locked up like animals, maybe that would have saved him.
If he hadn't talked about Obama, I just don't know.
Is he saying Obama is an animal?
It's all this hazy stuff that he threw together without thinking about it.
Nobody sits down and explains, okay, where do we draw the line?
What is a sin and what is not?
What is a sin that gets you thrown off the team?
All of this, it's all very impressionistic.
And if enough people get on Twitter and say, that was an unforgivable sin, then apparently the Seattle Mariners think it's an unforgivable sin.
Out the door. You never know what is permissible and what's impermissible, and that's why I think so many white people just button their lips all the time.
They never dare express something that might today be a fireable offense.
Well, it was two minutes hate.
You go back to 1984. It was, hey, here's another white guy we can make an example of.
And you have to juxtapose what's going on in the NFL, where the commissioner of the NFL, even though ratings are down, is still encouraging these protests as starting that conversation.
It's important to start the conversation.
This past weekend... 14 NFL teams had players raise their fists out of the 32 franchises.
I believe the Redskins joined with a number of players holding up the defiant Black Power fist.
We've actually now seen college football teams.
This is something a lot of people didn't think was going to happen, that college football teams, the Nebraska Cornhuskers.
For Pete's sake. In the heartland of the country, they have black players.
Now, of course, Nebraska's a school back in the 90s under Tom Osborne allowed a black rapist who actually pulled his white girlfriend by her hair down the steps of the apartment they shared together.
Lawrence Phillips was his name.
Play. Because, hey, you have to have the star running back.
Play. I mean, that far outweighs the crime of brutalizing a white girl.
Gosh, I mean, we've got to win games.
I mean, this Steve Clevenger moment, it's chilling because they just made an example.
You're going to see... You rarely see a white athlete say anything political anymore.
You rarely do. I mean, I remember a couple years ago when people made a big deal about Peyton Manning and Wes Welker, who played for the Denver Broncos at the time.
They donated to the Republican Party to get Mitt Romney elected.
And there was a number of stories like, oh, you know, gosh, of course the white guys would do it.
I mean, this has the effect of basically, like you said, where do you draw the line?
What exactly? To me, I look at that.
What was objectionable?
Everything that he said was verifiably true.
You know, you could say the animal part.
Oh, come on. That was a little far.
I don't personally think so.
And again, we know Obama...
has done nothing to dissuade anyone that he doesn't think in a pro-Black Lives Matter manner inviting their leaders to the White House sending representatives from his administration to the funerals of Trayvon Martin Freddie Gray and Michael Brown and you know What he should have said was, you know, why did Hillary jump in?
Because Hillary, of course, tweeted out it happened again with Keith Scott without knowing the facts.
And of course, there is no blowback when a Democrat says something like that.
Well, let's end on a positive note.
As I recall, when John Rocker took the field after his suspension, the stands met him with a standing ovation.
So that says something about the remaining good health of the white man.
Well, I can say this.
I've read that John Rocker does not regret one thing that he said because he still is recognized for those comments.
People still say, I remember what you said.
I agree with everything that you said.
He would just be an ex-baseball player doing charity events occasionally, as opposed to a guy who people remember what he said, and as we...
Exactly. And the ordinary white folks who understood that what John Rocker said was true, they are going to have an opportunity to vote for a man who thinks at least in part the way they do.
So anyway, till next time, Brother Kersey, thanks so much for coming on.
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