Andy Stumpf and Joe Rogan dissect authorship, medical anomalies like Alpha-Gal syndrome, and Navy SEAL training realities before debunking the Kandahar Giant myth. They explore funeral industry scams, SV40 vaccine conspiracy theories, and martial arts injuries, advocating for fundamentals over flashy moves. The conversation pivots to UFO skepticism, citing physicist Hal Putoff's advice against disclosure due to geopolitical risks, while contrasting this with the mathematical probability of extraterrestrial life and the potential calming effects of transparency versus fears of technological exploitation by global powers. [Automatically generated summary]
I tell you what, man, you had more of a hand in that book than you would think.
You know, before we started, I had you sign one of the copies because I'm going to keep it for myself.
The people's names who associated themselves with that, who took a chance on me and supporting me, they have just as much as hands as the monkey who may or may not have been sitting in front of the computer writing out the words very slowly.
I mean, I probably would have been more careful, which would have made it less fun, which would have made it less attractive.
You know, I think the two things that I've done that are really important is not pay attention to much online talk about me and just follow my interests and my instincts.
Like, I book the whole thing entirely on instinct.
I look at all the different suggestions that come in and all the different requests to be on the show, and I go, no, me, huh, where's that?
Like, you know, if I have like a Brian Cox on or something like that, I'll really prepare, you know, or, you know, there's been a few people over time where I knew they were coming on like three months out.
So I've read a couple of their books, I watched a few of their lectures.
I want, you know, yeah.
But then there's other ones like I could just hang out.
There's been forms of Lyme disease throughout history, but there's real solid evidence that Lyme disease, which is named Lyme disease because of Lyme, Connecticut, is related to Plum Island, where they were doing bioweapons research on ticks.
And they've particularly cured it if they get on antibiotics very quickly.
So, one of the weird things about Lyme disease is that the bite has like a little target around it.
It's weird.
It's like it almost looks like a bullseye because the infection, as it grows, there's a red circle around the bite.
But that goes away within a few days.
But if that's recognized, you bring it to a doctor that gets you on antibiotics, you can actually get off of it, depending on the severity of your case, obviously.
So here it is.
Alpha Gao syndrome appeared to have first emerged in the U.S. in the late 1980s, but was not recognized as a distinct tick related meat allergy until the early 2000s.
So in 1989, clinicians in Georgia collected about 10 cases of delayed allergic reactions to mammalian meat and linked them to prior tick bites.
But these observations were not widely recognized at the time.
Allergy was first formally identified as originating from tick bites in the U.S. by Thomas Platts Mills in the early 2000s reports note this discovery process beginning around 2002 and becoming clear by 2007.
So, in the medical literature, it's first described in 2009 when published work documented patients with delayed reactions to red meat and linked them to IgE against AlphaGal.
The whole idea is just like make you as hard as humanly possible.
And these guys, they were pointing to this one tribe as developing exceptional marathon runners because these guys had such high pain tolerance and such willingness to go through horrific ordeals.
Kipgogi was obliged to be absolutely stoical, unflinching.
He could not make a sound.
Indeed, in some of the versions of the ceremony, mud is caked on the face and then mud is allowed to dry.
A crack appears in the mud.
Your cheek may twitch.
Your forehead may crinkle.
You get labeled a kebitet, a coward.
You get labeled a coward if your cheek crinkles.
And stigmatized by the whole community.
Manner says that this is enormous social pressure placed on your ability to endure pain and is actually great training for a sport like running, where pushing through pain is so fundamental to success.
Circumcision, he says, teaches kids to withstand pressure and tolerate pain.
Manner says he thinks there's a distinct advantage conferred on athletic kids who grow up in a pain embracing society as opposed to Western pain avoiding one.
Yeah, the thing is that, but I just think, you know, you're joking, obviously, but imagine if that's the norm, if that's your baseline, you're like accustomed to that.
That's the worst thing that you go through and you have to do it completely stoic.
When progesterone is higher, so extreme cold could be more stressful.
Very cold plunges near ice, 35 to 45 degrees, can cause big sympathetic and cortisol spikes that may disrupt menstrual regularity and thyroid function if overused.
Oh, interesting.
Animal and limited human data suggest cold can influence reproductive hormones and cycles.
Women with heavy cramps, endometriosis, fibroids, andor on HRT contraception should be cautious.
And talk with a clinician first.
Good luck finding a fucking clinician that understands cold plunges, though.
It would be for a community that is supposed to have their roots in a maritime environment.
I mean, the SEAL community draws its origins from the UDTs and the scouts and raiders.
And honestly, up until 9 11, it was one foot in the water and one foot on land.
Like every operation would start in the water and then you could go onto the land, but you'd probably go back into the water.
And almost all the training we did, 9 11, was based around water.
And I think, let's see, Jamie, you could look this up.
Two SEALs recently drowned on a shipboarding, a real world shipboarding.
One guy.
It seems like in the climb, he peeled off the ladder and went into the water, and somebody saw him and went in with him because of the concept of being a swim buddy, never to be seen again.
I mean, there's a couple ways that you can get on a boat.
You can come from a boat and you can climb up, or you can go from a helicopter and fast rope down, or they could land, depending on how big the boat is.
So they were coming up alongside.
It's called an underway or a VBSS, visit board search and seizure is the technical military term for it.
And on the climb up the ladder, the guy fell off the ladder, and another one went in with him as his swim buddy.
If they immediately, and there was, and it maybe still is an ongoing investigation, from my understanding, They saw their head maybe one time up and then they were gone.
Their bodies were never recovered.
So that would seem to be that they were wearing negatively buoyant equipment.
So they were drugged down and they probably were not able to activate their life jackets in time, which is super unfortunate.
But the water doesn't give a shit who you are and how much of a badass you are.
I think it's one of the most gnarly environments on earth.
Every time I go in the ocean and I swim in the ocean, there's this feeling like, I think I can make it to shore, but I might not be able to.
Like, if you jump off of a boat and you've got like a couple of hundred yards to shore, as you start swimming, you start swimming like, I'm fine, I'm fine.
You have to train people for the job that they're going to be asked to do.
And the training standards need to be a directly downstream reflection of what the career is going to be.
And I don't have the vocabulary to describe how bad I feel for the families.
And I'm not trying to minimize anybody's death, but you will lose more people in the real world execution of the job.
If you don't make training that difficult, then you will, by making it that dangerous, knowing that it's going to be that dangerous and that people will die, that will have a positive impact on people surviving the actual job itself.
I've never seen a bullet change trajectory because it noticed what you had between your legs and wanted to go be more fair and equitable to somebody else.
A lot of the times, the people who are bottom lining the policy changes don't have a direct impact in the training pipeline themselves or the execution of the job, which is crazy.
I mean, the military is a bureaucratic system, even in the special operations world, even at like the JSOC level, people would be it never really makes the movie the amount of paperwork that you end up doing.
Like, you go on a trip and you have to collect your receipts and do your travel claim and all this other BS.
It's all just blowing up, and you know, you throw a grenade and it's a fireball the size of a 55 gallon drum of gasoline.
Yeah, and then there's two days sitting in front of a computer typing out all of your administrative stuff because of all the bureaucratic restraints that are still involved in all of that.
If you went out for a week in a row and you're like, hey, I lost my night vision goggles again, I'm going to need another set of those, you might have a problem.
But shit happens and people lose gear.
But, you know, night vision, weapons, ordnance, ammunition, like a lot of that stuff is serialized.
And so it's just the bureaucratic way that even at that level, you still have to keep track of all of that stuff.
They do, but oftentimes you are in small units very isolated by yourself.
And so you still have to maintain, like even in the middle of nowhere, you still have to maintain the paperwork aspect of all the stuff that you take with you.
But the problem with that is once you don't pass audits and there's a history of you not only not passing audits, but not being punished for not passing audits, that opens up the door.
No, the Pentagon has never passed, never passed a Full clean department wide financial audit of as of the latest audits.
Defense Department is the only one of 24 major federal agencies that has never passed a full financial audit.
The Pentagon's own audit materials have pointed to a target of around 2028 financial year to finally achieve a clean department wide audit, contingent on fixing longstanding accounting and systems problems.
Imagine if the IRS calls you up and says, Andy, you didn't pass your audit.
I wonder if that answer takes into account what's going on currently in the world because I feel like we're running through some inventory that might have to be tabulated.
So there's a weapon called the Carl Gustav that if you shoot too many of these things, it's in the manual, it'll start separating the lining in your lungs from your body because it is just this massive projectile.
And you'll go out and do these training evolutions, and they'll say, Yeah, here we are, the Carl G. Do not stand behind this bad boy when it goes off.
Oh, Joe, you'll go out to training evolutions, and there'll be five guys, and there's a pallet of ammunition, and they'll say, You're not leaving here until all these are shot.
And you're cracking off Carl G's until you have a nosebleed.
Or you'll go out there, they have like law rockets, or, you know, When I first went through his M60 ammo, they're like, Yeah, but you guys, the training's not over until you guys shoot all this.
Like, yeah, but we totally did everything we're supposed to.
I'm like, Yeah, we understand that, but just go ahead and lay down on the line and shoot these thousands of rounds of ammunition at whatever you want to because it's been issued to you.
No, next time you're sitting down with Evan, ask him, like, hey, did you ever, at the end of Training Evolutions, ever have extra ordnance and ammunition that you had to dispose of?
Like, you can make a large pile of stuff and, you know, layer something at it.
Or do you have a body on fire?
You can actually light ammunition on fire.
It'll go off.
And if outside of it, what direction?
Well, outside of it being compressed in the chamber of a gun, which, you know, if you think of like an AR platform rifle, when the round is in the magazine, it gets pushed forward by the bolt and it's being held by all sides except for down the barrel.
So all of the pressure is pointed in that direction, which is what propels the bullet down the barrel.
If you remove that, it kind of just explodes in place.
I'm not saying it's safe to like stand around and like have a beer while you're watching, like from me to you.
Well, that's been explained to me about budgets that if you do not meet your budget, you get in trouble because then they can't ask for the same amount of money next year.
So I heard that every year that when I was in, and September was a fantastic month to be in the military because that's when they, because the budget year is October 1 to October 1.
So September, the bean counters really start taking a look at what they have left.
And they'd say, I was a supply rep for a short period of time, meaning I was a little cog in the wheel of supplying stuff to the guys.
They're like, you need to spend $100,000 in the next three hours on shoes.
Which, let me tell you, REI is happy to take your money.
REI.com will run that card.
And you always would hear this if we don't spend it, we're going to lose it.
But I never actually saw that tested.
I don't know if you actually would get in trouble.
When your missions involve a bunch of different types of terrain, a bunch of different, like, is it, Do they favor a lighter weight shoe that's more of an all purpose shoe?
Because, like, I couldn't imagine you would be wearing like a crispy mountain boot with like high leather.
The boots, you could, I mean, you take a Pelican case or a box, you have a tool for every job.
So, if you're going to go up in the mountains, if you're going to go, like, northeastern Afghanistan, you're going to wear a different type of shoe for sure.
If you're in Iraq in an urban environment, you're going to wear probably the lightest weight.
I forget who makes them, but the Speed Cross shoes.
And those things are, I mean, you might get two months out of those.
So you'd bring a couple pairs.
You're going to bring some footwear that if you needed to go into the water, like not swim around in the water, but pass through water.
And the soles on those things, they don't last very long.
But again, when you get 100 grand to buy shoes for three hours, you can buy extras for people.
So you kind of have a, it's just like all the rest of the gear, you have cold weather gear, you have desert gear.
And the coldest I've ever been is actually in the desert because of the super high, high, and then the super, that swing was way colder than like in mountainous terrain.
But I mean, so you, when you lay out your stuff, like before every deployment you get ready to go on, you're laying your stuff out.
You probably have two tables like this with all like desert, woodland, cold weather, layering system, shoes, different load bearing equipment, different back.
And then you just lay it all out, put it into a bag, and then you're doing the best you can.
Then you're kind of just packing, you know, for what comes up in front of you.
I just need somebody to hold up an Actual piece of evidence and say this is what I'm talking about instead of I saw, I know somebody who was read into, I had a buddy who got engaged by a giant or they like, okay, where is it?
It gets me to a certain point, and then the point, like, there's a point where my logic kicks in and I'm not willing to go any further, and that's Bigfoot.
And we know there's a shit ton of mountain lions and a shit ton of bears.
So if there was a very small population of primates, it's not inconceivable that you wouldn't find their body, especially if they were in some way advanced to the point where they were burying their dead, which is, you know, it's not outside the realm of possibility if they have a language.
I mean, there used to be giant woolly mammoths, there used to be giant sloths.
The idea of a giant primate is not inconceivable.
It's like size is all relative anyway.
Our idea of what's big.
Compared to a fucking giraffe or this, it's all.
It doesn't.
You know, if you have enough resources and there's enough food for these things, they live in a lush tropical environment or a lush wilderness environment, it's not impossible to think that something would get way bigger than a gorilla.
But for that thing to exist today.
Yeah, that's what it used to look like.
So I think that is probably what all these ancient myths are based on.
The most gnarly post mortem is the Tibetan sky funeral.
Do you know how they do that?
No, vultures.
They literally break the body up, chop it up into chunks, and the vultures know it, and so they prepare.
So the vultures are all hanging around waiting.
It is a tradition in Tibet with at least certain people to get rid of their bodies that way.
And the idea is that, look, the person's dead.
This is a more natural way, and they'll cycle back into the ecosystem the way it's supposed to be with all animals.
We're the only animal that opts out of rejoining with all biological life.
Because it's supposed to be a biological body deteriorates underground that feeds the soil, that feeds whatever animals feast on its bones, and then becomes all part of this big beautiful cycle.
And we're like, we've got some chemicals laying around we'd like to fill the veins up with to make them completely poison so that they never deteriorate or they just slowly turn into gelatinous sludge.
Burial is regulated by state by state, city, county zoning.
There's no federal rule that specifies body position, horizontal versus vertical.
What are the laws in terms of embalming?
Green or natural burial, simple shroud, no vault, minimal disturbance, is legal in all 50 states, but only in locations that comply with state and local rules.
So for direct cremation, no public viewing, cremation within a few days, body kept refrigerated, embalming is generally unnecessary and not legally required in most states.
But the thing is, it's most of the time it's done.
According to my friend Joey, whose friend, at least it was in the past, whose friend ran a funeral home.
The guy was telling him what a fucking scam it all is.
Many funeral homes require embalming for presentation and public health reasons if you want a public viewing or an open casket before cremation.
Oh, who does that?
Some jurisdictions or airlines may require embalming for long distance or international transport.
Or if there's a long delay before commission.
Well, that makes sense.
Because if you don't embalm it, you're going to stink up the whole fucking plane.
U.S. law jet.
I mean, I'm sure you've smelled dead bodies before, but the first time I ever smelled a dead body, I was a little kid and someone died in our apartment building.
It was crazy.
You'd walk down the hallway and the fucking smell that was me and my cousins and my sister were walking down the hallway.
We were like, what is that?
We were probably like six.
It was this insane smell.
And it turned out this lady was just living by herself, died.
And so she was just rotting in this apartment building.
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So, this embalming thing, so is that not the case?
Like, is it where she's Funeral homes request embalming before they cremate you.
Also, here's another scam, according to my friend.
When you think you get your family member ashes, you get a bunch of shit.
You get a bunch of ashes.
You get ashes from some fucking guy you don't even know.
The requirement to embalm before viewing or before cremation is coming from funeral homes or cemetery policy.
Right.
So they're trying to make more money.
So this is what Joey was telling me about.
Yeah.
So it's not a federal requirement.
FTC says embalming may be necessary if you choose certain arrangements like a public viewing, but the necessity is based on the funeral home standards, not a blanket legal mandate.
Most people probably don't know that, so the funeral home will tell you, oh, we have to embalm them first.
I was reading about this guy who was an oncologist who got arrested because he was giving people chemotherapy that didn't really have cancer.
Because chemotherapy is uniquely profitable for doctors.
Yeah.
It's very profitable.
So he was telling people that they had cancer and they did not, and he was giving them chemotherapy, which I have a friend who died recently.
And he went through the first round of chemotherapy, went into remission, and the chemotherapy was so bad that when the cancer came back, he decided to just die.
It metastasized into her lungs 10 years later, got on the chemo, which I don't know what is in that stuff, but they, you know, the The platinum treatment, whatever it may be, and had the realization that she was either going to die from cancer or she was going to die from the chemotherapy.
And she chose hospice just because the ride on the chemotherapy was so horrible that she couldn't take it anymore.
My friend said that the pain of brushing his teeth was so intense, like the sores in his mouth from the chemo.
And that once cancer went into remission and then it came back.
And by the way, this cancer came very quickly after vaccination.
It was one of those where.
You know, you can get into that all day long if you want to really get into a deep conspiracy theory that's got some real facts to it.
But there's something called SV40, and they found SV40 in some of the mRNA vaccines.
SV40 is simian virus 40, and it's a virus that was contracted that people got because they used kidney cells from monkeys in order to cultivate these vaccines.
This is like known about for a long time.
And in certain batches, they've tested positive for SV40, which is like some just legacy material that they have that they make vaccines out of.
Do you think they were going upstream from that, the pharmaceutical companies or people that were pushing to try to find what perhaps they thought would be the fix to the solution?
Do you think that they were doing the best that they could and just their enthusiasm outstripped their capabilities or they pushed stuff a little bit too early?
Or was it as deep of as a conspiracy that people think and that behind the scenes they're trying to reduce overall global population?
I don't go to the reduce overall global population.
But I do understand why people would think that because there are – there have been a bunch of people that are supposedly philanthropists, Bill Gates, that have talked about reducing overall population being a goal.
And that goal could be like Bill Gates is actually quoted saying that that goal could be achieved through vaccines.
Well, one way is the what is it, DDP or DTP vaccine?
Diphtheria something and percussus.
So they were caught in Africa.
One of the vaccines that they were using on women in Africa turned out it's tetanus, right?
Diphtheria, tetanus, and percussus had HCG in it, which is.
An endocrine disruptor.
I don't know what's the exact specific description of it, but what it's essentially doing was rendering these women infertile.
And so they were supposedly vaccinating them for tetanus and these other diseases, but really what it was doing was they were making these women infertile and they were experimenting on them.
And they were doing this in Africa.
They like to experiment in places where not a lot of people are watching and there's not a lot of infrastructure and not a lot of internet connection and they can get away with trying stuff on people.
So this concept of reducing population.
Through vaccination.
There's some real world examples of people doing that.
But, you know, why?
I don't know.
I don't think that.
I think if you find out about how much money was generated during the vaccine pandemic, during the COVID pandemic, that is the most likely scenario.
They were just trying to make an enormous amount of money.
There were essential businesses that were allowed to stay open.
Restaurants weren't one of them, fucking insanely enough, but fast food places were.
So there were certain places that were essential, and media was essential.
So we were allowed to.
Although we did get ratted out, the health department came to our LA studio.
And they made us put a bag of masks on the wall when you go in, and also a note that shows all the precautions that you have to take place, like stand six feet apart.
And then people were also complaining that this table is not six feet wide, and so we weren't observing the proper social distancing.
So I said, Okay, well, why don't we just do this and you do that, and we'll do a podcast?
I don't think they're ever right with that kind of stuff, especially something that's not killing everybody as they said it was.
They were just gaslighting us all over television that people are dropping like flies.
And especially egregiously disgusting is gaslighting us about children dying from it.
You know, and there's a lot of really fucking shitty human beings that were posting about this on Twitter.
And I don't know if they're being paid to do it or if they're just ideologically captured, but there was a lot of people on Twitter talking about children dying from COVID.
It's a fucking dirty lie.
There was a very small amount of kids that died during the pandemic, and those kids, all of them had something wrong with them already.
All of them had comorbidities, which is like also.
A giant percentage of all the people that died, period.
It's like, what is the number?
It's like 75% of them, something like that, had four plus comorbidities.
I think we learned that the pharmaceutical drug company has a lock on the media that is very disturbing.
Like, the media did not report at all vaccine injuries, they didn't report of it at all.
It was never discussed.
People were dropping dead.
They were ignoring it and gaslighting.
And then we also found out the amount of money that these pharmaceutical drug companies pay to these corporations, whether it's Fox or NBC or CBS or whoever it is, in advertising.
It's a huge part of their budget advertising money.
And the way Callie Means explained it to me, he goes, it's not so that people find out about the drugs, it's so that these news stations.
Don't criticize the pharmaceutical drug companies.
Well, see, I'm not anti pharmaceutical drug company, but I am.
And the problem with corporations is they have an obligation to their shareholders to make the most amount of money possible.
And it's not the people that are making these things, the people that are making them, these doctors and engineers and scientists, all these wizards that are coming up with all these life saving medications.
Then you get the money people.
And the money people are the ones that fuck everything up.
Because the money people say, you know what, we could charge $1,000 a pill for this stuff.
You know, there's certain medications that literally cost $1,000 a pill.
You know, and they just try to make the most amount of money possible and prescribe it to the most amount of people possible.
And then you get monsters like this cancer doctor that I was telling you that was giving chemotherapy to people that don't fucking have cancer.
If you have a fucking electric car and you get stuck on the highway and it's just bumper to bumper forever and that thing is the only thing keeping you warm, you better pray that someone lets you in their car.
If you drive one, just the ability of those things, just the insane capability, the ability to go zero to 60 in under two seconds is just nuts for a four door Synan.
So, like, if you want, like, say, if you want to get a concealed carry license, you have to go to a range and you have to demonstrate that you know how to use a gun correctly.
Well, it's constitutional carry here as well, but still concealed carry, you get reciprocity.
So if you have concealed carry, you get reciprocity in Florida, Nevada.
So if you get a concealed carry license in Texas, you can go to places where, you know, they're only maybe they don't even have concealed, they don't have constitutional carry, but they recognize Texas concealed carry license.
My friend Whitney sent me a video of a street takeover.
In Los Angeles this Saturday night, where they took over some street and gunshots and people just they cut off the entire street so no one can go anywhere.
People surround these cars and the cars drive around in circles, and then someone started shooting at people.
But the thing is, in Los Angeles, they don't fucking put you in jail for anything.
They let you right out.
There's no cash bail.
They're letting people out for all kinds of crimes.
I was listening to a podcast where a guy was a former gang member and he was saying he's leaving Los Angeles because they're letting 70,000 people out of prison.
It would have been hard for me to do it worse, Joe.
If I'm being honest, people are like, How could you possibly miss?
Because I'm an idiot sometimes, and I'm just, God, as I was pulling on the trigger, I was watching it just drift back towards the beginning of the guts.
And instead of just stopping, just gave a little bit more and then never saw the thing.
Looked for it for two and a half days.
Is there a worse feeling in the world than wounding an animal?
Since I found it at 41, I don't think we should teach it to anybody under 30 because it deeply offends me when children come out of the children's class and they've been training like six times longer than I. I'm like, What?
Like their movement patterns were developed on the mat.
I'm like, I know.
We're using the same alphabet, but we are not putting together the same words.
Because I see some kids where their fucking scrambles and their transitions, like built into their neurons, where they're just like, everything is so fast and so kinetic and they're just moving and flowing.
I was like, oh, I found a closer Gracie Jiu Jitsu.
I'll go here.
And then it was also at the time where Extreme Fighting was out, which was John Peretti, who was one of the commentators for the early UFC, was now doing this.
And it was really good.
Like Mario Sperry was fighting, Igor Zinoviev.
And these guys, a lot of these guys were from Carlson Gracie's.
So I saw the Carlson Gracie, the two Bulldog logos, which is fucking dope.
And then I found out that it was on Hawthorne Street in LA, which is like really close to the comedy store.
But I just got there at literally the perfect time because it was right before Vitor was making his UFC debut, which was UFC 12, which I commentated at.
So I was literally training at the same school as Vitor, so I knew what to expect.
Well, not only that, there's a lot of guys that were really reliant upon the gi back then, unfortunately.
Because this is all you've got to realize this is all before Abu Dhabi, right?
So this is before Abu Dhabi Combat Club came out, which was an amazing organization that paid real money to grapplers to compete but made them compete without a gi, which was like for a lot of guys, they didn't know what to do.
They're so used to grabbing sleeves and grabbing collars and grabbing pants.
The one guy who had figured it out was my eventual instructor, Jean Jacques Machado, because Jean Jacques was born with essentially one hand.
His left hand is just a thumb.
He just has a thumb.
He had a birth defect.
And because of that, his game was all over hooks and under hooks and gable grips, which was he wasn't relying on collars and all this other stuff.
So his game was very different.
He just dominated in Abu Dhabi.
And that opened up the door to Eddie Bravo.
So Eddie Bravo, he learned a lot of his techniques from Jean Jacques as well.
And a lot of his style was based around Jun Chok's principles, which is don't rely on the gi because you don't always have the gi.
It's a good tool to use if you have it.
If you're fighting a guy who's got a winter coat on, it's awesome.
Like the last thing you want to do is fight a judo guy if you're wearing a winter coat.
So, for me, it made me concentrate more on defense because you couldn't pull out of things as easily.
But I never felt lost going into Nogi.
So, I would go back and forth all the time.
So, you know, I got my black belt from Eddie first, but I got my black belt from Jean Jacques right after that because I was training at both places.
That was also a beautiful thing about.
Eddie being Jean Jacques' student and them having a very close relationship, it never felt like you were a traitor that you left schools because I never really left schools.
I trained at both places.
I always trained at Jean Jacques' and I always trained at Eddie's.
If you want to, and the internet's an amazing thing, right?
And there's a bunch of ability to go out and look for techniques and stuff.
But I can't think of anything more disrespectful to a coach to be told something and then you are offering them something that you saw on Instagram while they're trying to teach you.
Like, that's how that relationship is going to end up breaking.
If you really want to accelerate your learning, Focus and honor your coach actually.
Focus on what they are trying to tell you to do.
Do only that and no more until you have that mastered, and then you can move on top of that.
I mean, because again, people ask me about my old job, like, well, how do you guys do all this stuff that you do?
Well, you learn it a piece at a time.
And honestly, it's the mastery of fundamentals.
Even at that, it.
I think what I determined the most when my coach gave me my black belt was that I don't know a goddamn thing about jiu jitsu and I can't keep up with all the flashy, sporty stuff.
But the better fundamentals get, the better you can tolerate a lot of that stuff.
It's just the mastery of the fundamentals is just so essential.
It's so addictive, which is to me was the problem with injuries, I would always find I'd go, I'll work around it.
And I'd just go in with injuries.
And then they get aggravated to the point where, you know, I remember one time my fingers were getting numb because my neck was so fucked up that my fingers were numb.
You sit on your chest, you pump it up like the Reebok pump, and then the chin strap, you tighten that bitch down, and you can adjust the tension that's required to spin it, and it has this giant bungee cord on it.
And so the bungee cord is like 50 pounds of resistance.
So you back up with the bungee cord till it's like fully taut.
So the thing that saved me, though, was Regenikine, which is like this PRP, platelet rich plasma to the next level.
This treatment that a lot of guys were having to go to Germany to get.
In the early days, they would go.
I remember Kobe Bryant went to Germany.
I think Peyton Manning went.
A bunch of guys had to go to Germany to get this treatment.
And it's like they take your blood and through some process, I forget exactly how they do it, it makes this fluid that is like this radically inflammation fighting fluid.
And they injected it into my neck and it cured my bulging discs.
And all my numbness went away and I got to start training again.
Once I got back.
But again, I didn't have a fucking iron neck back then.
If I had that machine back then, I think I could have avoided a lot of the problems.
Like a lot of the problems that people have with lower backs, I firmly believe it's a lack of building tissue and strength and mobility around your lower back.
You know, when you're holding like a 90 pound kettlebell and you're doing those deep squats where it's knees over toes on a slant board.
Your whole core is just so activated when you're.
I think that's phenomenal for just strength and stability.
But I agree.
I think kettlebells are the best.
I think it's the best also because there are so many different things you can do with them in terms of there's rotational exercises I do where I like pick it down on this side and I swing and clean it and I press it on that side and let it swing down.
And I do those things where you lie on your back with your butt, with your legs up in the air, and you do those twists where you take the kettlebell and put it each side.
There are people who played around with an immense amount of performance enhancing materials in my previous job, which live your life however you want to.
Just understand maybe the long term tail and the consequences of the choice you want to make.
I wanted to avoid that for as long as possible because, as you know, once you kind of go on that train, it's a lifelong journey.
But once I finally saw that piece of paper, I'm like, oh boy.
You could do, as long as you're smart with your training and you don't get like catastrophic injuries, you could be very physically fit deep, deep into your 60s and 70s, which is nuts.
At that point, you know, and you know something like when I would go over to.
I remember i'd go over to Switzerland and I would do a flight in the wingsuit and get you know you're like you're playing tag with your shadow on a steep cliff and I would send it to you.
And One day you were like, I just had to throw my phone across the room watching this because it was giving you anxiety.
So then I'm like, clearly I'm sending you more of these videos for sure, right?
But that was like one of many jumps in this, like the months of training leading up to that.
I'm not going to sit here and say it's safe.
I do think you can do it as safely as possible.
And I don't have a higher risk threshold than other people do.
I spend an immense amount of time at everything that I do looking at the risk and trying to manage it, analyze it.
Mitigate it as much as possible.
And then you look at what's left.
To me, that activity provided me enough enrichment in my life that it was worth it.
I haven't put the suit on in Five or six years, but I swear to God, if I get one more person telling me not to do it, I'm going to go back and just start sending you videos again.
Well, the reason why people entertain this idea of giants at all is all, a lot of it's biblical.
It's like stories from the Bible.
And then also stories from ancient civilizations that talked about red haired giants, which is the weird thing about this thing, had red hair.
Like the Native Americans had tales of red haired giants that they fought off.
Like, there's a lot of people that believe that all these stories from antiquity about giants are all referring to an actual different race of humans.
You know, like, we are one race of humans, the Homo sapiens that survived.
But then there's also races of humans that didn't survive, like the Hobbit people from the island of Flores that they found out there was a branch of the human species that was like three feet tall, covered in hair, little tiny heads.
I think sometimes, though, the stories, they're intentionally nesting a greater message through the vehicle of that story.
So whether it's accurate or not, it's more about the story that they are telling.
And I'm not saying the Kandahar giant has some story associated with it, but some of the older, like the symbolizations and the stories that they tell, I think it's just a vehicle that they can nest something in there to create deeper thought.
If that makes sense, it's what I see you guys doing, comedians.
I've talked about this recently.
It is interesting to me, and I never paid attention to it, but I know he's a good friend of yours, Dave Chappelle.
I watched his last special.
The ability for comedians to nest inside of your set pretty impactful and powerful, like societal conversations and ideas and get people to laugh about it.
But even when they're done laughing about it, they're going to be thinking about it when they're driving home.
It's just the vehicle to get people thinking about stuff.
But when it comes to UFOs, it makes more sense to me.
Because then you have something that's insanely advanced, much more advanced than us.
And so I had this guy, Hal Putoff, on my show.
He was a physicist, very brilliant guy.
And he's been around forever.
And during, was George W. or Herbert Walker?
One of the Bushes.
They brought him and a team of specialists in, and they said, We are contemplating disclosure, and that we have not just acquired crashed vehicles that are of non human origin, but also we have biological remains of these creatures.
We want you to write down pros and cons of the impact of these things and put a numerical value.
Put a numerical value in terms of impact on government, impact on religion, impact on all these different things.
Universally, all of them came out with more cons than pros.
The numbers didn't line up and they made a decision to not disclose.
How about it, just given the size of the known universe and the fact it keeps expanding, what is the mathematical odds that we are completely the only thing out there?
So, this is like sort of the same argument that people used to use for Bigfoot.
Like the wilderness is so vast, the Pacific Northwest is so dense, there could be something out there that we haven't documented.
Well, the problem is now we kind of have, and now we kind of know that with all these camera traps and all these different things, it's very, very, very, very unlikely that any of these stories are true.
But when you get to the universe, it's like, come on.
It's way more likely that we're not alone than we are alone.
If we are alone, that's kind of insane.
I mean, it's kind of incredible.
If this is the only place where intelligent life has formed, I think if that's the case, we're missing something.
We're missing something about the nature of consciousness.
We're missing something about what consciousness actually is like, what is our actual role in the universe?
It might be more complex than we initially believe.
Some of them I think you can completely write off.
But other ones, pretty tough from pretty credible people who aren't making claims like, hey, I sat down and had a beer with this thing.
But like, I was in an aircraft that has a certain performance envelope, and we understand the performance envelope of what humans are able to fly at this point.
And yeah, this thing did things that I don't understand.
Sometimes the videos get, I mean, I was talking with, you know, Bill Thompson.
I usually go with I have an IQ that you can find on a thermostat.
I'm not saying it's like the winter, but maybe it's a little bit close to a hot summer day.
Now, what he is, I wish I had the ability to build stuff like that.
Like, I use that app to hunt, but most of the time I use it when I'm flying my helicopter around because it is like the terrain analysis, the ability to look at stuff, the LIDAR, the way that you can look through foliage.
Again, I'm just, I'm deeply appreciative that people like that exist.
It's just very difficult to become a guy like that.
It's a long road to be that guy.
Yeah.
I think.
Because of what's going on in Iran, it'd be good to talk to you about this because you're a guy who kind of understands things in terms of like geopolitics more than the average person.
If that technology existed and we're not using that to help our own populace find people that are lost in the woods, we're a bunch of fucking assholes.
So, let's not maybe tell people what we're doing, but you could have a specialist in a search and rescue helicopter that could maybe use that and be like, oh, we saw them in a field when you didn't actually see, right?
So, because that doesn't happen, I think it's plausible.
But then you can go old school, which is sending in monkeys with machine guns, like what I used to do with a PJ or multiple PJs, pararescue jumpers, because those are the guys.
This is the way I describe PJs.
If you want to put a hole in something, JSOC guys are great at it.
If you want to plug a hole, PJs are the guys that you want on top of you, just stopping hydraulic fluid.
They're medical, just absolute badasses.
Nothing but immense respect for them.
So the two cargo aircraft came in.
They pulled the little birds out.
I believe that there were four.
That you could only fit probably, man, even if they were super light on fuel, probably three guys on each pod.
So, six guys per helicopter, 24 guys.
Some of those are going to have to be PJs.
I don't know if that's enough to go into a hardened facility in the daytime, also, which is not when you would do that for retrieving depleted uranium.
Because, by the way, to do that, you're going to be in full protective equipment very likely, which you're going to be moving incredibly slow.
I just, I know it was, I know that geographically it was proximal to one of the locations that they thought that that was what was going on.
I think it probably was a rescue of the weapons systems officer, is my guess.
And then they're like, well, we can't get the aircraft because they got stuck in the sand.
I'm like, okay.
The little birds don't have the fuel storage and ability to get across where they needed to go, so they had to bring in other aircraft, and you don't want to leave that stuff.
I think Evan and I had an argument one time about radar and sonar, and we were both calling each other idiots, and we both found out that we were wrong once we looked it up on the internet.
So we'll say it's some version of that.
God, we were both 100% committed that we were correct and we were both wrong, which is classic.
But yeah, like in this room, the things that are emanating, there's an ability for them to map that and determine who, you know, maybe not who you are, but I bet you it gets to that point and where you are.
And you want to talk about a tactically beneficial piece of information for somebody like my old job?
It's just, it gets to a point with technology where it's like, what is not possible 100 years from now?
That's what's weird.
We are in one of the strangest times ever in human history in terms of these quantum computers that can solve mathematical problems.
Mark Andreessen explained it to me, and I'm going to paraphrase it.
I'll probably fuck it up.
But he said that a quantum computer can solve an equation in a matter of minutes.
That if you converted the entire universe, every atom in the universe, into a supercomputer, the universe would die of heat death before it could solve this problem.
And a quantum computer. On Earth, can solve it in a matter of minutes.
But it's one of those things where it's like quantum computers are real.
It's an actual real thing now.
Google, specifically Hermut Nevin, who leads Google Quantum AI, has recently used language that strongly suggests their new quantum chip speed could be understood as borrowing computational power from other universes.
But this is an interpretive, speculative way of talking about quantum mechanics, not an experimentally established fact or a standard claim.
The claim comes from December 2024, a blog post about Google's Willow Quantum Chip.
Nevin wrote that the chip solved a task in minutes that would take a classical supercomputer about 10 to the 25th power years, far longer than the age of the universe.
He then said this lends credence to the notion that quantum computation occurs in many parallel universes, and that this aligns with the idea that we live in a multiverse.
Explicitly referencing David Deutsch's many worlds argument for quantum computing.
So at some point, it doesn't have to be now, but I essentially wrote in the inscription, and I mean this from the bottom of my heart my life would not look the way it does had you and I not randomly met through Tate Fletcher.
Like my post military life would look completely different, and I have no ability to like pay you back for how gracious you've been with your time and your platform.