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Joe Rogan Experience #2380 - Jordan Jensen
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Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan experience.
joe rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night!
unidentified
All day.
jordan jensen
Hello.
joe rogan
What's up?
unidentified
Oh, good.
jordan jensen
I got my legal pad here.
joe rogan
Yeah, in case you need uh to write notes.
jordan jensen
I'm gonna take notes on what you're doing right and wrong.
And I'll give them to you at the end.
joe rogan
I uh tell me.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
So I can figure out what the wrong stuff is to stop doing it.
jordan jensen
I want to fuck with all this stuff.
joe rogan
I know there's so much shit.
And people keep giving me new shit.
jordan jensen
I know.
I brought a little tiny figurine of a little thing on stage one time, and every single meet and greet people give me these little tiny animals, and now I have this giant collection of them, and I'm like, I don't like these that much.
joe rogan
That's the problem, is like everybody knows that I keep a bunch of shit on this desk, so people give me shit to put on this desk, and now it's getting kind of crazy, like where I'm gonna have to have a shelf.
jordan jensen
I had to get a shelf.
I got one of those old typewriter keyboard things.
joe rogan
Look, I have like mammoth teeth.
This is uh piece of art that was tied out of a woolly mammoth.
Oh, that's a don't blow it.
jordan jensen
I won't.
I got one of these.
A Mayan blew it whistle.
joe rogan
Yeah, Brian Aztec, Aztec death whistle.
Brian Callan blew one right before COVID hit.
I'm not saying he caused it.
Oh but there's a lot of videos saying he caused it.
jordan jensen
I get it.
I get it.
That would be a death whistle.
joe rogan
I think it was pro technically.
I think when he blew it, it had already like caught on in China.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Unless we're in a simulation.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
You're the COVID guy.
I was listening to your podcast with um what's the woman who got falsely accused?
joe rogan
Of what?
jordan jensen
Of uh murdering her roommate.
Oh I was listening to that one, and I like fast-forwarded it one moment, and it went from her being like, and then I was in prison for four years to you being like, Well, the bat's been COVID.
unidentified
And I was like, how do we get how do we get here?
joe rogan
Yeah, that was a fascinating podcast.
Amanda Knox.
She's got a Netflix series out right now where someone plays her, which has got to be super fucking weird.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like someone else plays her in like a dramatization of her getting wrongly accused at twenty years old of a murder where they had all this evidence that this guy who broke into the house fucking murdered her.
His like his DNA was there, and they ignored it because they didn't want to admit that they were wrong.
unidentified
It's on a hulu.
joe rogan
Hulu, sorry.
jordan jensen
I don't really get how that happens.
joe rogan
Because cops are cunts.
jordan jensen
Right, but just like people not checking, did they not see sperm everywhere?
Oh no, the guy was like, I fucked her.
joe rogan
No, I don't know what he said.
I don't know what happened, but I know that they started they had a narrative.
jordan jensen
Oh, that he was in on it.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
They had a n but they had a narrative that she did it, that she caused the murder.
jordan jensen
Right.
joe rogan
The guy started with that and he stuck with it.
And even when there was evidence that showed that it was there was a guy in there, and then the guy did it, and then the window was broken, and somebody broke out of the house, and like And then eventually he came forward and was like, This has nothing to do with her, the guy who did do it.
Well, I don't think he eventually ever did anything.
No, like she actually had a meeting with him, which is crazy.
Like after the fact, like forgave him.
unidentified
But I'm thinking she got tried twice.
joe rogan
Twice.
jordan jensen
I know the Supreme Court.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
She went she got acquitted, like she got released, right?
And then they retried her in absentia.
So she was in America while they were trying her in Italy again.
jordan jensen
And then they said she's fine.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Which is fucking crazy.
jordan jensen
Like, why was she in prison?
joe rogan
Give her some fucking money.
jordan jensen
Also, the guy Rafaela was in solitary for six months.
joe rogan
I don't know.
jordan jensen
I can't fathom that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
The six months in solitude is so crazy to me.
One day in solitude, and I'm done.
joe rogan
Well, I talked to a guy uh that had been in solitary for years.
jordan jensen
What does that mean?
Like you get you shit and piss in there?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, you get no contact.
No contact.
jordan jensen
It must be scrambly after that.
joe rogan
Hundred percent.
jordan jensen
I feel like they, yeah, it's gotta do some sort of weird brain damage thing where they come out actually Well, this guy Shaka that we have on the podcast, he's great.
Was he normal?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, beyond.
Like super smart.
He wrote in there, educated himself in there too.
jordan jensen
Oh, you can read books.
You can read in there.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can read that.
jordan jensen
That's good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, they don't just give you nothing to but they you do go crazy.
You you you go crazy.
Human beings need human contact.
jordan jensen
Well, it's like when you don't do anything all day and then you get right up on stage.
Have you ever done that?
Or you don't talk to anybody and you are feel insane.
Yeah.
joe rogan
The worst first conversation of the day on stage.
Yeah, that's why I always bring friends on the road.
You don't want to be like that weirdo in the hotel room by yourself.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
And then you take a nap and the sun goes down while you're napping.
That's the worst feeling.
That when I do that, it feels like I'm haunting the audience.
Like I'm like, you guys are in a different reality, and I'm I'm intruding on where you're at.
joe rogan
The weird one is when you wake up and you don't know what city you're in.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but that's why I got the dog.
I was so sick of that feeling.
I was so sick of waking up and being like, I've been abducted, where am I?
This place is nicer than my apartment, so that's good.
But where am I?
And then I saw my dog and I was like, oh, we're all right.
joe rogan
That's not the only reason why you got your dog.
jordan jensen
Yeah, and she rolls.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
And she's uh very cool.
joe rogan
She's so cute.
How long have you had her?
jordan jensen
Two years.
joe rogan
Oh, that's awesome.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Was she full grown when you got her?
jordan jensen
Tiny.
Because I wanted to adopt the mom.
joe rogan
Oh.
jordan jensen
Who but they were like, hey, the mom just ha had all this we didn't know she was pregnant.
She just had a litter of puppies.
Will you take one of these?
And I was like, okay.
joe rogan
And I had no idea how hard it is that would be I've had dogs where you adopt them full grown, and it was great.
I had this uh dog named Lucy, she was awesome.
She was so sweet.
And then I had another dog named Squeaky From that was a real nightmare.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
She was real maybe it was because I named her Squeaky From after one of the Manson family members.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah, that'll happen.
joe rogan
She had a squeaky voice.
She like she had been barking so much in the pound that when I got her out of the pound, like her voice was like and then eventually it got normal again because she didn't have to bark 24 hours a day.
She just had worn out she had worn out vocal cords.
She had a totally normal bark, but I was like, oh my god, her bark is like a squeaky.
Yeah, it was like that.
jordan jensen
That's awesome.
joe rogan
Like she was hoarse.
jordan jensen
Yeah, you don't know what you're gonna get.
I mean, when I got a a rescue, I was like, I'm gonna get a small rescue, so I hope it'll be fine.
But it was such a gamble.
Everybody was like, do not do this.
joe rogan
Yeah, we had a Doberman once that was a rescue that we had to get rid of.
He had distemper and he got really crazy, like in that, like growling at us and barking at us out of nowhere.
And I was a little kid.
Oh, you really got rid of him.
jordan jensen
We had a dog that would that ate the foot off of we had a pit bull that was a rescue, and my mom had this like woman move in with us who she was dating, and her kids moved in too, and my pit bull ate the foot off of the white wife's cat.
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jordan jensen
And the woman was like, hey, you gotta like choose between me or this pit bull.
My mom was like, Yeah, get your cripple cat out of here.
And we kept our dog.
She didn't give a fuck.
Dude, she was so attached to that dog.
That dog, the amount of times we just like kill my friend was in the backyard with the dog kills a cat, and my friend's freaking out.
She's like, we have to find the owner, and my mom was like, You will stay quiet.
It was crazy.
unidentified
It was nuts.
jordan jensen
She was obsessed with that dog.
That's the only time I've seen her like really cry is when a dog dies.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard.
They don't live long enough.
jordan jensen
I can't do that.
joe rogan
They're your best friends.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm terri I have a dog named Marshall.
He's golden retriever.
He's the best.
And he's nine now.
He'll be nine in a couple of months.
And it's just like, oh no.
I've had him since he was a baby.
Now he's nine.
I'm like, he's only got a few years left.
And he's so active.
He's super healthy, eats great.
He's fit.
He's not.
jordan jensen
Is he the retriever?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
But the small dogs live for they get to be like twelve, and that's kind of it.
Thirteen, maybe fourteen, and then they're really hurting.
jordan jensen
It's fucked.
joe rogan
It's fucked.
Apparently there's a drug that they've developed for for dogs, like a longevity drug.
I don't know if they've released it yet, but uh I know that it shows promise and ext extend dogs' lifetime.
jordan jensen
Whitney Cummings the other day said that her friend her friend's like soul dog died the other day, and she said, when the dog dies, you like learn something about yourself that's very important.
So I've been holding on to that kind of woo-woo thing.
Like she's like, you kind of show up for yourself in a way you need to.
joe rogan
I don't know if I'd listen to Whitney.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She does.
I like how Whitney has a has something to say about everything though.
joe rogan
Rapamycin.
jordan jensen
Uh wrap him on ice.
Take him off.
joe rogan
I've heard of rapamycin before because rapamycin is something that uh Peter Atia is uh a big proponent of for longevity.
jordan jensen
The the guy who wants to live forever?
joe rogan
No, no, that's Brian Johnson.
Uh another study at Texas AM university showed rapamycin could extend the lifespan of older dogs by up to twenty percent.
Generally well tolerated.
However, it can cause side effects such as lethargy, lack of appetite.
Oh boy.
jordan jensen
No, you can't.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Is that it?
Because I think there was something else.
It was like a gene therapy.
jordan jensen
What happened to the cloning thing?
What happened to CRISPR?
joe rogan
They probably already made clones.
jordan jensen
But why did we not hear about that?
Aren't they cloning sheep and shit?
joe rogan
Yep.
jordan jensen
And then we just stopped hearing about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, they probably made a bunch of people already.
unidentified
Yeah.
What is it?
joe rogan
People telling you about clones are probably clones.
jordan jensen
You ever see a person that looks exactly like another person, and then you ask them their name and it's the same name?
And you're like, no fucking way.
joe rogan
You know the story about those two baseball players?
jordan jensen
No.
joe rogan
Oh, it's the nuttiest shit of all time.
These two baseball players look exactly the same, have the exact same name, and never met each other, and they both play baseball.
jordan jensen
Let me see him.
joe rogan
Oh, it's bananas.
These two guys.
Oh my god.
What in the fuck?
jamie vernon
Different parents.
jordan jensen
Why are they wearing the same classes?
joe rogan
And their name is Brady Feigel, right?
So it's not even like a normal name.
jamie vernon
Yeah, and they both got the same injury.
That's how they found out they were going to the same doctor.
joe rogan
Just imagine your name is Brady Feigel, and you meet another guy who's also Brady Fig.
You're both six foot four.
You both have red hair.
jordan jensen
They're both really tall.
joe rogan
You both have black glasses.
You both have the fucking same crazy name.
That name is nuts.
jordan jensen
Maryland and Missouri is not far enough away.
jamie vernon
That's crazy.
jordan jensen
That's crazy.
jamie vernon
I think they also, once they found this out, they didn't immediately go meet each other.
They waited for like two or three years, maybe, I think.
joe rogan
Oh, if the guy played baseball and I played baseball, I'd be like, bro, we gotta hang out, freak people out.
They're different ages.
jamie vernon
I thought they were the same age.
joe rogan
Oh, how old?
32 and 27.
Interesting.
The first guy must be really pissed.
This motherfucker's stealing my shine.
jordan jensen
That's bizarre.
Yeah, but I just remember hearing so much about cloning.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
And then it just stopped.
joe rogan
Well, they do it with dogs.
They do it with people's pets.
Like if you want to get your pet cloned, you can get your pet cloned.
That's a real thing.
jordan jensen
What do you think?
joe rogan
It costs $30,000.
jordan jensen
But then they're cloned at the same age.
joe rogan
It's no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
They're a puppy.
jordan jensen
Nice.
joe rogan
Yeah.
See, we get to start from scratch.
Yeah, otherwise you'd have like an 11-year-old.
You keep like bringing back to the phone.
jordan jensen
That'd be so mean.
That'd be so mean.
joe rogan
He's got arthritis, diarrhea.
jordan jensen
Please let me die.
For the love of God.
joe rogan
You waited too long to clone him.
jordan jensen
That's dude, bring it back as a puppy, though.
We could do that.
joe rogan
Did you see that movie with Demi Moore called The Substance?
jordan jensen
Okay.
I fainted in the theater.
joe rogan
Bro.
Bro, that movie is nuts.
jordan jensen
It's nuts.
I'm actually very pro that movie.
Like I love the narrative.
joe rogan
I was great.
jordan jensen
I love the idea of that when you get all that face shit, you're just keeping an old person alive.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
I've tried to describe that on stage so much where I'm like, doesn't it bother you that when people are like you look good for your age, you're just like hide it, like you're concealing your death there?
You know what I mean?
Like and that movie portrayed that perfectly.
joe rogan
Where it's just a fucking It's kind of ironic that Demi Moore, who looks insanely good at 62, played that lady.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
You know, because like But I liked that because it showed like even when you saw her weird old lady butt, you were like, that's to me is Moore's nice butt, but I'm still like in awe of the young girl's butt, which is unacceptable.
joe rogan
It's unacceptable.
jordan jensen
You know what I mean?
Like when she was doing the whole dance, and you're like, why is this so intense?
And you're like, because it's a young person.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
I think that did that director do that director didn't do raw.
But it was a female director.
joe rogan
I don't know what else this director did, but that movie was awesome.
jordan jensen
I hit the deck though.
I tried so I faint so easily.
joe rogan
Do you really?
jordan jensen
Dude, I just blood and stuff, I faint, and I muscled through the gory part, and I was like, I'm fucking good.
Like I can't, I've cured it, and then the music, it's like when a movie starts going like ha ha ha like that, like on both sides.
I'm kidding.
Like a goat, dude.
I I got to the bathroom and I passed out.
I'm in New York just on the ground fainting.
People are walking over my body.
They're like homeless person.
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
That's so funny.
I used to date a girl that when if someone got a needle on the screen, she'd faint.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just like it didn't matter where she was.
unidentified
If someone got injected, I'm like, it's so bad.
jordan jensen
Her dad had it too much.
My dad has it, yeah.
joe rogan
Dad was a dentist.
Which is crazy.
jordan jensen
Like the dentist makes me faint.
joe rogan
When the when the kid, one of their uh her brother got like crazy sunburn, like Really bad where he got blisters.
The dad saw it and just fucking fainted.
jordan jensen
Dude, it's crazy.
My sister called my dad once and she was working on cadavers and she was like, I'm so interested in this.
We cut into a cadaver today, and she just heard thump on the other line, and she was like, Dad, dad.
unidentified
Oh my god.
jordan jensen
He was done, dude.
He's fainted so many times.
unidentified
From a phone call.
From a phone call.
jordan jensen
That's so wide.
He couldn't be in our berths or anything.
He's a big thing.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's crazy.
That's cr what is that?
jordan jensen
It's called Vasovagal.
joe rogan
Okay, but is that a psychological thing?
Because it's obviously like your reaction to a thing.
Like, I wonder if you can temper that somehow.
jordan jensen
Here's the problem with it is why I don't.
I used to think it was psychological, like me and my dad pictured things too well.
Like we pictured it, the needle going in.
But Vasovagal, like sometimes I'll be putting an earring in and I'll fucking everywhere.
joe rogan
So you don't bounce your head off the fucking linoleum.
unidentified
So fucked up.
jordan jensen
So I think it is neurological.
joe rogan
Well, I bet, but also triggered by high states of anxiety, right?
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
So that's what you would be able to control.
You wouldn't be able to control the fact that you do faint when you have a high level of anxiety.
So uh vasovagal response, sudden overreaction of the body's autonomic nervous system to a trigger such as pain or emotional stress uh or music that causes a temporary drop in heart rate and blood pressure.
jordan jensen
Oh there's a whole part of my special where I talk about me and this guy who was also a fainter having sex.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
And you both fainted?
unidentified
A lot.
joe rogan
Nice.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's hot.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
unidentified
It was rough.
jordan jensen
It was rough.
Because when you faint, it comes with sweating and seeing one like it's brutal.
joe rogan
And you probably hope the man doesn't faint.
Like he can keep it together.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That would be like a nice thing.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
unidentified
Right?
jordan jensen
Like a nice trait.
He could faint on command.
He could think it's only a paint.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
I wonder what would happen if a guy like that had got drafted in Vietnam.
jordan jensen
Done.
unidentified
Faint.
jordan jensen
Yeah, would have gotten a shot.
joe rogan
Faint shot.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
My dad had a heart attack once and fainted.
And I saw him in the hospital and I was like, what happened?
The heart attack fucked up your face.
And he was like, I fainted on a fence.
I was like, that's crazy.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jordan jensen
Yeah, he fainted so much.
And he was a contractor, so he would always have cuts and stuff and be like, no, be out.
It was crazy.
joe rogan
That's nuts.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
He jigsawed through to his nose one time.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because he fainted?
jordan jensen
No, but then he fainted.
He like pulled the cord and then it cut through his nose and then he got faints.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
I would wear a helmet everywhere if I was that dude.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
I just wear a football helmet.
Just like I'm a fan.
jordan jensen
That's what we have to worry about all the time.
Like if I cut myself, it's not about the cut.
Like the stitches are not.
It's that I'm about to hit the deck.
unidentified
It's crazy.
jordan jensen
It's so fucked up.
joe rogan
Have you ever fainted right before you went on stage?
Because I would think that's like a heightened state of anxiety a little bit, especially in the early days.
jordan jensen
I've panicked.
Well, another problem is I get when I I panic when I have really bad intrusive thoughts.
Like I I was around a famous person recently and I was convinced I was gonna bite bite her.
I started getting a full panic, which makes you want to faint.
But it's a is a it's a different thing, but both lead to fainting.
joe rogan
I knew a dude who was a warm-up guy, you know, he'd used to do warm-up and he had a real problem with anxiety.
He just would freak out, and he was a comic and just it never worked out for him because his anxiety would just overwhelm him.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And one time, he was warming up for the Cosby show, and he got this idea in his head that he was gonna say the N-word.
jordan jensen
Of course.
joe rogan
And he's like, Don't say it.
jordan jensen
Of course.
joe rogan
Don't say it.
jordan jensen
Oh, the Cosby show.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he's warming up for the Cosby show.
So he's you know, basically in the crowd, warming up.
Okay, so here in the next scene, Dr. Huxtable's gonna come in.
And all his mind is telling him is don't say the N-word.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was not gonna say it.
He was never gonna say it.
But for whatever reason, he was overwhelmed by this fear of saying the N-word in this like very predominantly black audience.
And he completely had a meltdown while he was doing warm-up.
jordan jensen
Where he was panicking.
unidentified
Full panic.
jordan jensen
Mine is violence.
I think I'm going to bite, I think I'm gonna, yeah, totally.
Or on airplanes, I'm worried I'm gonna pull the exit thing off all the time.
Mine is very violent, or the person next to me I'm gonna bite down on.
joe rogan
That's probably a better response than like shrieking and falling to the ground.
jordan jensen
I know, but that I was the the famous woman.
I was like, I don't want to be the biter.
joe rogan
But you wouldn't bite her.
jordan jensen
And then I know, but I thought, but it I had so long to obsess about it.
joe rogan
Can you tell me who it is?
jordan jensen
It was Laura Dern.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
You thought you were gonna bite Laura Dern?
Isn't she an admiral in Star Wars?
jordan jensen
I love her so much.
But she was being so nice to me, and we were sitting next to each other for so long, and I was like, What if I just bit Laura Dern?
And my brain was like, You're not.
And I was like, But this might be the time that you do the thing.
One time I was on a chairlift and I was like, What if you jumped off and I obsessed so long that I just jumped off?
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan jensen
I was fine.
I landed and was fine.
But I still was like, I did the thing.
unidentified
Oh no.
jordan jensen
So since then I've been like How far was the jump?
Not far.
joe rogan
Okay.
jordan jensen
That's the other thing I have to remember is I waited for the snow to come up and meet the chairlift way closer and then jump.
So my you wanna smart.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're not crazy.
jordan jensen
You're not crazy.
joe rogan
Just like a little thrill.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just a little bitty thrill.
unidentified
Totally.
jordan jensen
Like biting her.
joe rogan
Think about bite.
unidentified
She was so nice.
jordan jensen
So Hollywood, you know.
unidentified
And I was like, oh, I could really her skin was Hollywood.
jordan jensen
Just so pure, so nice.
joe rogan
Interesting.
jordan jensen
I got bug bites all over.
joe rogan
I accidentally sat next to Daryl Hannah once at Cantor's Deli in the 90s.
jordan jensen
Okay.
joe rogan
And uh they were doing some fucking game.
They were playing some game.
Her and her friends were playing some game with like states, like figure out like what you know, what's the keystone state, like that kind of shit.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I was helping her.
But she was totally normal.
Like it was net we never acknowledged that she's Daryl Hannah at Cantor's Deli.
jordan jensen
Playing a game.
joe rogan
She was like super chill.
jordan jensen
That's so nice.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Her and her friends are having a sandwich, just laughing and doing some game about states.
jordan jensen
They're normal as hell.
D Matt Damon was at the cellar recently, and I couldn't I was so fucked up at how I don't know how it was fucking me up so much.
I do too many, I microdose too many my trees, but I was like, his arms and hands are so Matt Damon's arms and hands.
Like I knew them so well, and he was like gesticulating, and I was like, I fucking know those frickin' arms.
It was crazy.
From movies, yeah, like just moving.
It's weird to know somebody so well and never have spoken to them.
It's disturbing.
joe rogan
That is odd.
Yeah.
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I'm I met Matt Damon in Italy at a restaurant where he was sitting underneath a photo of himself.
jordan jensen
That's weird.
joe rogan
This this did he choose to sit there?
No, no, no.
The the restaurant owner had him there before.
It was a nice table and there's photos all over the wall of celebrities that had been there before.
And so Matt Damon went and sat down at the table where the photo of this owner, you know, taking a picture with Matt Damon is.
jordan jensen
That's some meta shit.
That's crazy.
He seems really sweet.
joe rogan
He's a very nice guy.
Super normal guy.
There's a lot of them that are like super normal.
They always hold this thing like I doubt fucking crazy people.
There's always like a thing in your head.
You're like, they gotta be out of their fucking mind.
jordan jensen
Totally.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Um what's the guy's Peter Dinklage.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan jensen
Came into the cellar and um threw a chicken wing at my friend's chest, just like out of nowhere.
Somebody introduced him, like Gillis or something.
Somebody, maybe it was Schultz who was like, oh, this is so-and-so, he's a good comic.
And he threw a chicken wing at him.
And I was like, that's the most Peter Dinklage, like just basically being a little renaissance man throwing like his size turkey leg is crazy.
It's crazy.
A little friend of Sonic just being like, oh wait, just uh I was like, that's two on the nose.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Problem is I knew him first from elf.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
So even though he's the Game of Thrones guy, to me, he's always the angry writer from ELF.
jordan jensen
I know him from um the guy uh for weddings and a funeral or wedding wedding at a funeral.
joe rogan
I never saw that.
I heard it was really good.
jordan jensen
Really good.
joe rogan
I heard it's really good.
Never saw it.
jordan jensen
Crazy funny.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That guy's great.
He's he was so good in Game of Thrones.
It was so good.
That's a complicated role.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Complicated.
That fucking show was so good.
The new one I'm trying to get into it, but like every season is like five years apart from the last one.
You have to figure out who is who is this lady.
jordan jensen
Dude, Game of Thrones won.
I had to I was like asking a thousand people.
I was like, I don't understand which place is which.
I had to like map it out.
I could not figure it out.
But it's so good.
It opened up with the brother and sister.
joe rogan
Fucking.
jordan jensen
That was so sick.
joe rogan
And I was making a cripple out of the other brother.
jordan jensen
Yeah, it was crazy.
joe rogan
Nuts.
jordan jensen
And the just full on rape.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Of the Daenerys girl.
joe rogan
They cut the fucking head off the king.
You're like, no.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
He's crazy.
He's the best.
He's the best.
joe rogan
He's the king.
jordan jensen
They did a great job.
joe rogan
Oh, that fucking fucking show ruled.
It was such a good show.
Such the season one was I mean, I mean, not season one, uh the real Game of Thrones.
The new ones, like, yeah.
It's good.
But you know, you're always you're Jay Leno after Johnny Carson.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
It's like totally.
You get attached to the characters.
joe rogan
You're just like, oh.
jordan jensen
I didn't I don't remember the last season.
Oh, the last season was weird where Cersei rules.
joe rogan
I was in uh Croatia, and uh there's the place where they where King's Landing is.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like that's where they filmed it.
jordan jensen
Oh, that's awesome.
joe rogan
And they they like sort of do tours where they show you where they film certain scenes.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And one of the scenes is when she was shame, shame.
jordan jensen
The little cobblestone, that's pretty.
joe rogan
That's right there.
Yeah.
You can actually see it.
jordan jensen
That's really cool.
joe rogan
It's pretty cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
They filmed a lot of things.
We do the shame.
Shame.
joe rogan
Shame.
jordan jensen
I just went through a horrible Twitter thing last night.
joe rogan
Oh no.
jordan jensen
Dude, I got dragged.
joe rogan
You can't read that.
jordan jensen
I did I dude.
It was a fan hit me up and goes, Don't go on Twitter.
And I went on Twitter and it was so this crazy out of context thing where I was like talking, I was on Stav's podcast and I was talking about how I was talking about this guy who used the word, I'm not gonna say it, T-R-A-I don't know how to spell it, N-N-Y.
unidentified
Okay.
jordan jensen
He used that word.
And I was being like, that word is so fucking antiquated that at this point to me it it sounds like somebody's just calling like a drag queen that.
And everybody took it as me saying that trans people are in drag.
unidentified
Oh god.
jordan jensen
And it like, dude, it was just like went at me.
And like the crazy thing is I thought I was being woke on that podcast.
I had like friends of mine being like fucked order.
Like it was crazy.
unidentified
Friends of yours.
jordan jensen
Fri I mean friendly people, like people I work with.
joe rogan
Yeah, those people can go eat shit.
Those pylon people, they can all go eat shit.
jordan jensen
But that was my like first big one.
joe rogan
I've had one before, but that was like those that kind of shit pushes people away from all the things you're trying to promote.
Like it does it's it doesn't mean that people hate trans people if they say something like that.
That's not what you're saying.
jordan jensen
I was saying the opposite.
I was being like, this guy was such an asshole for using that word.
Also, that word is so corny.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
That I feel like at this point it's not even referenced to transgender people that it's like what we say for drag.
joe rogan
Some people still use it.
jordan jensen
Totally.
joe rogan
But it's uh that's not the point.
The point is it's like you what are you trying to do?
You're not trying to hurt anybody's feelings.
So shut the fuck up.
Everybody's just looking for a reason to be offended.
It's just trying to find anything that they can like green light, go.
It's no reason, no nuance.
Yeah, of course.
jordan jensen
It's so crazy.
joe rogan
Of course.
jordan jensen
It was so and I'm just like reading all of them, and I was like, this is so many people that are just like, this dumb bitch.
One of them said this is a fat retard talking to a skinny retard about me and put me and stuff.
And I was like, oh well, that's actually really sweet.
That's really nice.
Yeah, I love being skinny.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, this is just what's going on online.
And most of the people that are on the city, no, I don't have Twitter.
Oh, good.
jordan jensen
I don't have Twitter.
I deleted it because I kept looking at my ex's twit tweets.
And then I was like, I'm deleting this for sobriety, you know.
And then I went on it the other day and I was like, this is a nightmare, dude.
It was crazy.
And I hit up those people who tweeted, and I was like, hey, why wouldn't you just text me, man?
Like, I care about you, you care about me.
This was totally out of context.
If you just asked me about it, I would have showed you the whole clip, you know.
And they were like, You're right.
That was crazy.
joe rogan
It's a mental illness factory.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's Twitter is just a giant cunt farm.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
It just everybody just is growing cunty thoughts.
jordan jensen
I just didn't know.
I just am not even in there.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not good.
I don't I stay off it as much as humanly possible.
I try to get on it in the morning just see what everybody's upset about.
See what's in the news.
What the f like a UFO got shot with a hellfire missile, and there's they have footage today and rep Luna.
Yeah.
They they were talking about it in hearings today.
There's a video of a hearings?
Yes.
There's a video of a UFO getting hit by a hellfire missile, and the hellfire missile just blows apart and the UFO just keeps moving.
jordan jensen
What it what was the FO?
What did it look like?
joe rogan
Like a dot on a screen where they always look.
They look like shit.
jordan jensen
I saw something weird coming down from the moon the other day.
Do not know what it was.
joe rogan
Look at this.
So watch this.
So the here's the UFO, there's the missile.
Watch this happens.
Does it it just knocks it around and then the thing just gets right back on track?
Which is bananas.
Like anything that gets hit by a hellfire missile, usually gets a fucking obliterated.
Especially something that's literally the size of the missile.
jordan jensen
It's cruising.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's flying.
I mean, not fast enough that it could duck a missile.
So which is kind of weird that it let itself get hit.
jamie vernon
It's hard to see even what happens.
It's like what is that little bit?
joe rogan
Right.
It's animation.
It's fucking Pong.
We're we're looking at Pong.
You know?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like an old video game, a really shitty video game.
This is the this is why I have the hardest time getting excited about any of this stuff.
It's like I don't know what I just saw.
You're telling me I saw a hellfire missile hit a UFO.
It's like, you know, you you're reading Morse code to me.
I don't know.
jordan jensen
Well, AI has done that too, where now it's like I can't even go on Instagram.
It's not even fun anymore because I don't know what's real or not.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, we get caught all the time.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there's always something.
There's always something that you think is real.
Like Tim Wals with the fuck Trump shirt on dancing on the elevator.
James like it's fake.
I'm like, no, no, no, it's real.
jordan jensen
I'm like, I'm just past the age bracket where I can't detect it.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Well, no one can detect it anymore.
Because especially what looks like cell phone footage.
Because cell phone footage is kind of shitty already, so they just make it kind of shitty, and you don't know.
You know what the fuck you're looking at.
jordan jensen
My mom liked the photo on Facebook that a fake AI photo of me on the beach, different tattoos with with a man and she liked it.
I'm like, mom, what are you doing?
Who do you think that guy is?
You know that I'm single.
She's like, you look beautiful in it.
I'm like, it's not real.
That's not my body.
That's not the body you gave birth to.
joe rogan
Boomers can't handle it.
jordan jensen
No.
joe rogan
They're so removed from this technology that they're living in an alternative dimension.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
I don't know what she does on that.
joe rogan
They get their news on TV and that's a rap.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whatever the guy says in front of the camera.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
That's the one.
My mom is my news source, which is nice.
I didn't know the Epstein drawing had come out.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
What is so the drawing is a draw?
Was that the same as the one that had been leaked before?
Is it different?
jamie vernon
I'm pretty sure that leaked one was someone took the description, put it in AI.
joe rogan
So this is the actual drawing.
jamie vernon
Yeah, and this one they actually got the book and someone like leaked it.
I'm gonna grab her.
jordan jensen
The drawing, I did think when I imagined it that it was gonna be like a well, I was imagining like DiCaprio drawing a French girl, you know, and when I saw that one, I was like, Trump, at least make her hot.
What are you doing?
But what was the transcript he had written out?
He had it like this is it.
What is voiceover mean?
joe rogan
It says uh there must be more to life than having everything.
Donald, Yes, there is.
So he wrote this.
jamie vernon
Supposedly.
joe rogan
The voice, it says voiceover, like he's like a movie star.
Like he's in a script.
Donald, yes, there is, but I won't tell you what it is.
Jeffrey, nor will I, since I also know what it is.
Who fucking talks like this?
Donald, we have certain things in common, Jeffrey.
Jeffrey, yes, we do.
Come to think of it.
Donald, Enigmas never age.
Have you noticed that?
Jeffrey, as a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you.
Oh is a wonderful thing.
Happy birthday.
May every day be another wonderful secret.
Oh.
And then I like how he's got the signature right with a bushes.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
I don't think that he meant for that though.
joe rogan
Oh, come on.
jordan jensen
It made it sound like he meant for that.
joe rogan
I think he did.
jordan jensen
I don't I think he just signed it.
joe rogan
Maybe.
jordan jensen
But I was imagining it.
joe rogan
But it's kind of ironic.
It's right where the vagine is.
But I don't think that's a good one.
I don't think Trump likes a hairy character.
Okay.
That's a dude with womanly hips.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, look at the boobs.
They're weird.
jamie vernon
It's like a it could be a back.
joe rogan
Yeah, it could be anything.
It could be a snail smile.
jordan jensen
I don't get why he's writing a script.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's very odd stuff.
jordan jensen
It's quite strange.
joe rogan
Well, it's also like the way like enigmas never age.
Have you noticed that?
And Jeffrey, as a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you.
Like, if one of my friends sent me that, I'd be like, I'm getting a new number.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Why didn't you just write happy birthday?
joe rogan
Yeah, what the fuck is wrong with you, Enigma?
jordan jensen
Happy birthday, Jeff.
That's all I want.
Happy birthday, Jeff.
May we hang out soon.
joe rogan
Well, also, like, what year was this that he wrote this?
jamie vernon
I think it was for his 50th birthday was the word.
So I'll see what year it would have been.
It wouldn't have been that long ago.
unidentified
But you see.
joe rogan
Well, it had to be because he kicked him out of Mar a Lago in like the 2000s, right?
jamie vernon
I think 2011, I think, is when they said that was.
joe rogan
That's when they kicked him out?
jamie vernon
I think so.
joe rogan
I thought it was before that because I think that's when he got arrested.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I think that was related to that.
jordan jensen
They kicked Epstein out.
unidentified
Can I touch this?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That is a recreation.
That's a 3D printed recreation of these very strange vases that they find in Egypt that are part of an older dynasty that are so exact, and the way they did it is completely unknown.
That is just a piece of plastic, but it's that's an actual 3D rick recreation of the original vase.
jordan jensen
That you think aliens did.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
I think a very complex ancient civilization that was wiped out by some sort of a cataclysmic disaster that had very sophisticated technology.
Because that was was it diorite that that was carved out of?
jordan jensen
Are you an alien guy or are you an agnostic alien guy?
joe rogan
I'm on the fence.
jordan jensen
You're on the fence.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
You were alien guy?
joe rogan
I've been back and forth, off the fence, on the fence.
I've been over the other side.
I go back and forth.
I think it's highly unlikely that we're alone.
Highly unlikely.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And there's just too many stories of people having encounters with something for people been writing these things down for thousands of years.
I haven't had any experience though.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
I think if it's like a relationship, if you want it too bad, you won't get it.
joe rogan
Other than psychedelics.
Which makes me go.
jordan jensen
You've seen guys?
joe rogan
No, I've seen stuff.
I've seen entities.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, 100%.
I've had interactions with other beings.
jordan jensen
Tree entities or like space entities.
I've had tree entities.
joe rogan
Things that didn't have like a form that was solid, their form would change and morph.
And they had consciousness.
But you know, it's like, what is what's really going on?
Like, are you really imagining this?
Or are you tapping in what it feels like, but it might not be this.
What it feels like is you're tapping into another dimension and you're interacting with some disembodied souls, like disembodied consciousness that doesn't have a physical form.
That's what it feels like.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it feels highly intelligent and very aware of what you're full of shit about, what you're what you're not, like what your thoughts are, whether your thoughts are positive or negative, like it shows you negative thoughts and positive thoughts.
jordan jensen
Yeah, I was talking to Ari about that on his podcast about how like when I took acid, if I had a negative thought, all of the clouds would turn into skulls, and if I had a positive thought, they'd all turn into these dancers, and I could switch it.
I could just like switch and my entire visual would change with my mental.
joe rogan
I had a very similar experience once Where when I had negative thoughts, everything would go like black and pixelated and dark, and then I would have a positive, I would realize it, like, oh no, no, no, no, this you're doing this, and then boom, it would blossom into these beautiful geometric patterns.
I was like, oh.
Yeah, you're kind of in control of how you view things, which is in control of how your life works.
jordan jensen
That's the one thing that psychedelics wants you to get so hard.
That's like the biggest thing.
Every time I do it, it feels like it's making fun of me.
It's like, bro, this is all you.
Like you have control.
joe rogan
Yes.
jordan jensen
You can have a bad life or a good life.
Make the fucking choice.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan jensen
And every time I do it, I'm like, okay, I'll remember.
And then the next day I'm like, ah, somebody said I'm fat on Twitter.
You know, it's cra I just had this big revelation the other day where I was like, what if everything is alright?
Like I'm writing, and then this weird thing happened, and I'm like, I'm gonna die.
Everybody's and I was like, oh yeah.
Sometimes I feel like when you have those revelations, you get a little tested.
You ever feel like that?
Like I'll be like, Yeah.
When I'm things when I'm like, okay, you know, like I was my head was so big about the Netflix coming out.
I drop in at the creek yesterday, do a new joke set, bomb, just bomb the whole way through, sweating, sweating in front of these people.
They're like, they don't know who I am.
They're just like, what are you saying?
And I was like, okay, just trying brand new weird stuff.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
Because my ego's so big that I'm like, I don't even need the workshop, this shit bitch.
And I do it, and they're just like, we don't understand you.
And I'm like, anyway, watch the special, it's a lot better than that.
joe rogan
It is the most humbling thing to work on new stuff after you put out a special.
It's the most humbling.
Because you have no weapons.
jordan jensen
And you just were doing shows where you're like BAM, tight, ready.
Totally.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Looking at the notepad and being like, what else?
Still nothing on there.
Yeah.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
It's the hardest thing, is like coming up with subjects.
You know?
jordan jensen
It's also hard when your brain is preoccupied with putting out a special, I've noticed.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
You know, like I'm like, I'm editing, I'm thinking about shit, promotion, and then I'm like, have to but that's why I think you have to take time.
joe rogan
A hundred percent.
jordan jensen
But the rush.
People are like, aren't you so proud of yourself?
And I'm like, no, because now I'm doing bad sets.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
You know what I mean?
I don't have time to be proud because I'm going up on stage and being like, throw here something, I was thinking, you know, and it never I think that's a good thing for us.
joe rogan
It's a good like reality check.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
It's great.
joe rogan
Yeah, like every couple of years, you gotta get smacked in the face and start from scratch again.
jordan jensen
It's really good.
joe rogan
Brian Simpson did a brilliant thing.
So what Brian Simpson did is he developed two hours.
So he put out one hour, and then when he went touring afterwards, he had another hour already.
jordan jensen
Well, I thought he asked Ari, I thought he was like, Can I put out both hours?
Can I put out all of it?
joe rogan
Don't do that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think what he did was perfect.
jordan jensen
When I did the half hour, I had that.
I did it, put a half hour out and I was fucking cruising.
But this one, I any fat that I had, I cut and was like, I hate you're dead to me.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
So all of the stuff I liked, I put in it.
So then when I was touring, I was like, I've already decided that I hate that.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
I can bring it back up, but I don't want to.
joe rogan
Right.
Then then you feel like you're a fraud if you do.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And if you're not interested in the subject, like if you're like it's dead to me, it's over.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta let it go.
jordan jensen
Totally.
It's crazy.
And it's hard to be on stage and talking about what I want to talk about, which is how crazy it is to be putting out a special.
You know what I mean?
But I don't want to talk do that because I won I want to do evergreen material.
joe rogan
Also, that's like it's just not relatable.
jordan jensen
Not relatable.
But you're like, I want to tell you guys about this.
That's what's on my mind.
joe rogan
Especially the people that don't know who you are, then it's really not relatable.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
Bill Burr was very inspiring because he put out that special about how he changed his mindset.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan jensen
You know what I mean?
The most recent one where he was like, I'm not gonna be an angry person anymore.
And that was sick because I feel like sometimes I'll be like, maybe I should have a perspective shift where I am stop being such an angry person and against humanity.
And I'm like, no, but that's not funny.
So seeing Burr do that, I'm like, oh, I could have material about how like therapy helps, you know, instead of how my therapist sucks.
You know what I mean?
Like and that was nice to see him do that.
Where he was like, I'm gonna stop harassing my wife.
That was the whole special.
Was like, I'm my wife is like gonna die someday, and I'm making her life quite bad.
It was great.
joe rogan
When I was young, I had this stupid idea in my mind that you should stray away from meditation or enlightenment or anything because it would get in the way of being funny.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
It would get in the way of chaos.
jordan jensen
I have that with relationships.
I get I'm like, I'm gonna keep the tumultuous relationship and I'm just gonna keep like that's how I thrive.
joe rogan
Mining for material.
jordan jensen
Mining for material, just keep myself in a in a state of like unknown constantly so that I feel like I'm alive.
joe rogan
Ooh.
jordan jensen
Because I feel like I'll die if I have any comfort or stability.
I look my studio is the size of this table.
There's no reason I should live like that.
It's crazy.
It's there's no reason.
But I just keep myself in these little fucking.
joe rogan
Do you like living in New York like that?
jordan jensen
I don't need to.
I can live in a bigger place in New York.
It's totally fine.
joe rogan
So you're doing it to yourself.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
I'm doing it to myself to be like, you have to struggle.
And you don't don't you don't even get to clean your tuna cans.
You have to leave them.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
At least you know it's crazy.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
And I'm working on it.
I am working.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
jordan jensen
I am working.
joe rogan
Talking to a realtor?
jordan jensen
I'm ta I'm talking to two therapists.
And yeah, that's the other thing is I'm like, I don't want to get a bigger place if I'm gonna buy a place in New York.
joe rogan
Oh eventually you're gonna buy a place.
Right.
jordan jensen
So I'm like, maybe just struggle.
joe rogan
But it's a weird time for the real estate market right now.
jordan jensen
I bought a house in Ithaca.
joe rogan
Oh yeah?
jordan jensen
Upstate.
Yeah, upstate.
joe rogan
Oh, you're one of them people that get to the upstate house.
Well to visit.
jordan jensen
It's like five hours from New York.
So people are like upstate.
And I'm like, no, it's like paintball upstate, dude.
joe rogan
It's so do you take a flight or you drive?
jordan jensen
I take a there's a flight from JFK now.
joe rogan
And you go to Ithaca and what just watch TV?
jordan jensen
I just I mainly just work on the house and work on the you know, just do shit to get it up and run.
I don't know what I'm gonna do when it's done.
joe rogan
So you just like being uh in a small town?
jordan jensen
Well, my family's there.
joe rogan
Oh okay, that makes sense.
jordan jensen
Yeah, my niece is there.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
But I was like, Did you just pick Ithaca?
I don't know.
jordan jensen
No way, no way.
My whole family's there.
And I was so sick of going home and having to stay with my mom the whole time.
joe rogan
And oh, that's smart.
jordan jensen
Yeah, she walked in on me having sex so many times.
Wow is cr so annoying.
Just swinging open the door.
Oh, sorry.
She that's her every single time.
That's why she's deaf, so she can't hear shit.
joe rogan
Oh no.
jordan jensen
So she'll just swing it open.
unidentified
Oh, oh, okay.
jordan jensen
It's fucking crazy, dude.
And her house just has holes in it because she's a contractor, so she hasn't finished it.
joe rogan
Oh no.
jordan jensen
So there's just like rac there'll be like a she'll just be scurrying around and be like, there's a raccoon in here.
I'm like, what?
All the time, dude.
It's crazy.
There's a chipmunk on my laptop.
I'm like, get it away.
Bats coming in constantly.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
jordan jensen
Dad's dead now.
Dad finally fainted his last faint.
joe rogan
Oh no.
jordan jensen
It was it was good.
He worked all day, came home, died.
It was we were happy about it.
joe rogan
Really?
jordan jensen
I mean, we didn't want him to die, but yeah, he was f he was like getting to a point where we were like, he's gonna have to start going to the hospital because he smokes so many cigarettes and is so unhealthy.
And we're like, if he goes to the hospital, it's game over.
He can't be around.
He'll faint if he sees a hospital.
It's like he like knew it was happening and was like, I'd rather die.
joe rogan
Did the cigarettes get him?
jordan jensen
Yeah.
Cigarettes and Dunkin' Donuts.
Love Dunkin' Donuts Donuts.
joe rogan
Both of those things.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Very addictive.
jordan jensen
Very addictive.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan jensen
He was a heavy smoker.
That's why I want to kill Ian all the time.
joe rogan
Because he smokes so much?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
And he sounds like my dad with the where you laugh and you go, ugh.
joe rogan
Ian seems like he really enjoys it though.
jordan jensen
You've th that's what everybody says until they're hacking up along and they have to leave a movie theater halfway through to go smoke.
joe rogan
How much does Ian smoke a day?
jordan jensen
I think he's down.
I think he's down to like a pack and a half.
joe rogan
Oh God.
jordan jensen
He's getting there.
I need to get him onto Zins, but he thinks that's gay.
joe rogan
Zins are gay.
He thinks what about all the stuff he talks about on stage?
jordan jensen
Yeah, that he thinks is perfectly regular and above-board.
Perfectly regular and above-board.
joe rogan
But zins are gay.
That's so silly.
That's what a silly take.
jordan jensen
But so many people have that.
That's like when people are like, I'm not gonna enter recovery because I don't believe in God.
I'm like, you were you were drunk last night praying that you could fuck, you know, Sydney Sweeney.
Like you're praying.
You're you're doing weird stuff.
You're delusional.
joe rogan
Oh, I don't want to believe in God.
That's hilarious.
jordan jensen
People say that a lot where they avoid AA because they don't believe in God.
joe rogan
I'm like, Yeah.
What's weird is the guy who founded AA did it he was an acid head.
He used acid to get off of alcohol.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah.
I but he doesn't talk about that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
The thing is all about.
joe rogan
Yeah, I've heard a lot of people do that.
jordan jensen
I use mushrooms to cure like a huge amount of OCD.
I was like I was like OCD was dominating my life, couldn't touch anything, had to wash my hands constantly.
It was like and then I tripped hard and went into a room alone for six hours and was like, I will and it was I was tripping hard and I was like, I'm gonna deal with this in this room and figure out what it is.
joe rogan
And what was it?
jordan jensen
It was that I fundamentally don't trust myself to make the right decision.
And I realized that none of my decisions were up to me.
It was all just an amalgamation of experiences.
Because I was like, who's gonna stop me from biting or hurting or doing anything?
So I was like, if I tap this, that'll stop me.
And when I faced it in acid, it was like, you think you're gonna do bad things, but you're not, because you have done you have chosen the right path this whole way, so you can trust yourself.
You know what I mean?
Like three-year-old Jordan was not outside killing a cat.
You know what I mean?
She was fucking playing, right?
Like, so every step of the way you're building this personality that you can trust.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Because my whole thing was like, who how am I to know that I'm not a horrible that I'm not gonna do something horrible?
Which is a big OCD thing for people.
joe rogan
Wondering whether you're gonna do something horrible.
jordan jensen
Yeah, like a lot of OCD, like I know a girl who she couldn't babysit because she was like, What if I am a pedophile?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jordan jensen
Because her OCD was so bad.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jordan jensen
And then she was like, Oh, this is OCD, and she was treated and she was like, It's fine.
But like a lot of people people will have babies and they'll be like, What if I frickin' spin this baby's head off?
joe rogan
Oh Jesus Christ.
jordan jensen
I have that all the time, dude.
I have that whenever my friends are like hold my baby, I'm like, okay.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's so crazy.
jordan jensen
But you don't do shit because it's like the it's like the ski jump thing.
joe rogan
You're gonna that's interesting.
I never thought of it that way.
It's like you're not trusting yourself.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
And I also used to be super fat, like I was a fat kid.
And I think there's a part of me that's like, if you were able to do that, then you're able to do horrible things.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, like if you were able to binge eat like that as a kid, then you're not really to be trusted.
You know what I mean?
And I had to face all of that on this acid trip, and I came out of it and was like, was it acid or mushrooms?
That was acid.
joe rogan
Okay.
jordan jensen
Mushrooms I microdose.
Acid I don't do anymore because of how crazy that was.
But that one I did a lot and can't do this.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're like, I got it, got the lesson, I'm not going back to school.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
Totally.
And I still have a little bit of OCD.
I still have some things that I didn't get rid of, but for the most part, I got rid of it.
joe rogan
Which is it seems debilitating.
I've met people that have it, it's nuts.
And some people it gets worse as like their success grows, which is really crazy.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Howard Hughes type shit where you, you know.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
I loved that movie growing up because I resonated with them so much.
joe rogan
It's weird.
jordan jensen
You gotta stop it.
I mean, that's the thing is if you don't get in the way of it, it just builds neuronal grooves in your brain that becomes so like averse to plasticity.
Like you can't get out of them.
And that's what I remember like this woman being like, I want you to bring in contaminated items.
And I was like, Go fuck yourself, bitch.
I was like, absolutely not.
I was like, then we'd have to burn my mother's car, like there's no way.
But you do every time something's contaminated a little bit, you have to like force yourself to do it to touch it, or whatever your thing is.
joe rogan
Like contaminated food?
jordan jensen
For me, it was contamination was if some when I was younger, I was worried that I would become like say you were like, I cheated on my wife last night, and then you're like, You want to hit this vape or whatever?
I wouldn't be able to touch it because I'd be like, he does bad things.
If I hit that vape, I'll do bad things.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan jensen
You know, so if somebody was whack, they'd be contaminated and I couldn't go near them.
joe rogan
There is something to that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a little something to that.
That's there's a little wisdom behind that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because people do kind of adopt the mindset of people they're around.
jordan jensen
I mean, that's what I've had to learn recently, is I'm like, you gotta cut out whack people and get that that's not OCD, that's like healthy for you.
joe rogan
Yeah, whack people can ruin everything.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Really shitty human beings that you have kept in your life for whatever fucking weird reason.
They can just derail your whole life.
jordan jensen
The thing that sucks about comedy is sometimes these people are so fucking funny.
unidentified
I know.
jordan jensen
And you have to cut out somebody who's so funny.
joe rogan
I know.
jordan jensen
That sucks.
joe rogan
I know it does suck.
It does suck.
jordan jensen
People had a desk job, I'm like, you're cutting out Brian, who's like kinda, you know, who's like just alright, who brought you a cupcake once.
I'm cutting out d people who are like the only people I can say racist shit around.
You're like cutting out like a huge cord of my sense of humor.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
And that, but I've had to do that recently, just be like, dude, I can't.
The vibe is too dark.
It's sinister.
joe rogan
It is a problem.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's people in your life that just for whatever fucking reason will never get it together.
And at a certain point in time, try to rescue a drowning person, it they'll drown you.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
They'll drown you.
jordan jensen
It's hard to watch other people do it and not cut people out, and you're like that.
If you could just cut.
joe rogan
Like my friend's mom is just such a drain on her life, and I'm like, you gotta just Did you see that fucking Netflix documentary about that little girl who was in a small town who's getting harassed by someone that turned out to be her mom?
jordan jensen
Oh, I heard about this, but I did not see it.
Oh, I saw this on Instagram and I thought it was not real.
joe rogan
It's nuts.
jordan jensen
She was getting bullied by your mom.
joe rogan
Her mom like cyberbully?
The mom was just all day trolling and fucking with her daughter for years.
And you know what the girl said at one point in time?
She's like, I miss my mom.
Because her mom was there to protect her from the bad world.
But really, the only bad world was her mom pretending to be someone else.
jordan jensen
Wait, she said I miss my mom.
joe rogan
Because she thought her mom was a sweet person that protected her, and she found out her mom was a fucking monster.
jordan jensen
Oh, it so later after she found out she was like, I miss my mom.
joe rogan
Yes.
jordan jensen
Oh, that's brutal.
joe rogan
Brutal.
jordan jensen
That's like when somebody breaks up with you and you're like, I just want to talk to them about this bad breakup.
joe rogan
Well, that's that thing that some crazy people do.
It's Munchausens by proxy.
jordan jensen
So she was is that Munchausen's though?
joe rogan
Munchens, I think is when you're sick them.
You hurt them so that you could help them.
jordan jensen
Oh, she was doing that.
She was being like, who's your brother?
joe rogan
She was the one who was trolling her own daughter.
She was someone else online attacking your own daughter, calling her a whore, calling her horrible things.
jordan jensen
And being like, P.S. Your mom's a babe.
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Your mom's an enigma.
jordan jensen
Your mom's really hot.
You should go talk to her.
joe rogan
I I noticed your mom's an enigma.
jordan jensen
I think you noticed that too.
joe rogan
So the moment I saw you, I noticed it.
jordan jensen
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Crazy.
It's so strange.
jordan jensen
Is she in jail or something?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I didn't get that far.
I can't.
What the stuff like that where people are mean to their kids, I'm like, I can't do this.
jordan jensen
I love that shit.
I don't love it, but I fucking fall asleep to that.
Horrible shit.
joe rogan
It's hard.
If you love your kids, I love my kids.
I can't I see some seeing someone being that it's not just it's fucking evil beyond belief.
jordan jensen
How old are your kids?
joe rogan
She tortured that I have a 28-year-old daughter.
I have a 17 and a 15.
jordan jensen
Wait, if you were if you have a 28-year-old, you were well, it's not my biological buttons.
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
So ha did you have any kids were all your kids had after you were financially good?
joe rogan
Yes.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
Yes.
jordan jensen
You think that's the move?
joe rogan
I don't know.
There's something to be said for growing up poor.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I grew up poor.
I think it's good.
I think I I understand hard work, you know.
I understand what it's like to have to have a job to get stuff.
Like, you know, you want to buy a new pair of pants, you need to get a fucking job, you know.
You need to get a car.
Well, you have to save up.
jordan jensen
But all those things you're describing you can do.
Poor growing up poor for me is like growing up watching your parents fight over who is gonna pay the child support.
You know what I mean?
I think you can grow up fine.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
And still work.
joe rogan
Well, my parents didn't fight.
My my my stepmom and my uh excuse me, my stepdad and my mom have been together for a long time and they have a very good relationship.
So I'm that that like modeled from me when I was a when I was a kid.
My parents got split up, my biological dad and my mom when I was five, and my mom married my stepdad when I was like seven.
jordan jensen
Where's your dad dad?
joe rogan
We don't talk.
jordan jensen
Oh, we don't talk.
joe rogan
I don't know him.
But my stepdad's a great guy.
jordan jensen
So you have good parents.
joe rogan
They they have a they modeled a good relationship when I was a kid of people that don't yell at each other, don't fight and get along.
That's disagreements and stuff.
jordan jensen
Love and relationship.
joe rogan
Yeah, they have disagreements, but they're nice to each other, kind to each other.
And um you know, if you see that when you're a kid, you go, Oh, this is possible.
But if you see like chaos all the time and everyone's fighting and screaming and yelling at each other, you're like, keep me the fuck away from whatever this is.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, 'cause I remember I watched my grand my grandmother and my grandparents.
My grandmother was always yelling at my grandfather, and I was like, Oh, don't stay married, whatever you do.
I was like, well, when I was a little kid, I was like, you gotta get out while you can.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
I think that's why there's So many avoidant men right now is because I think there's so many of those like lazy boy dads who are like dissociated looking at a TV that isn't on and every time they try to try to like you know, every time you're like, hey Jim, how's it going?
They're like wife flies in, is like, don't talk to him for us.
Like there's so many couples like that.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of cucked out men out there, cucked out by their job, cucked out by life.
You know, you just stop being a man and then you stop getting any respect from the people that know you because they know you're kind of a bitch.
The people that really know you, like your wife and your kids really know you, like, oh Harry.
Harry's a fucking bitch.
jordan jensen
Yeah, there's so many boomers like that though.
There's so many where it's the dad is so quiet and so distant and the mom is just so up everyone's ass.
joe rogan
Thoreau wrote about that.
Like what?
Whenever he wrote this, he said most men live lives of quiet desperation.
jordan jensen
That's fucked.
unidentified
Yeah.
That's fucked.
joe rogan
That's fucked, but that's real.
jordan jensen
But why does it happen?
joe rogan
Well, there's a whole bunch of reasons because you stop challenging yourself or you never did.
You stop growing and and you you don't have any character.
You don't exhibit a strong will and you don't have discipline, and then you know, you're emotionally disconnected from the life that you've chosen, and then you have a job where you have to pretend to be someone you're not for eight hours a day and work for a boss who's a piece of shit.
jordan jensen
And then you lose the job because the job becomes irrelevant.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then you're like you're a broken man, and then you're like 46 years old, then they're trying to telling you to learn to code.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, oh great.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah.
That's fucked.
joe rogan
A lot of people they don't know what to do and they didn't get good advice when they were young.
They didn't get a a good direction.
You know, they didn't they didn't find something that they could focus their energy on and realize, like, oh, if I focus my energy on something, whatever it is, I can get better at stuff.
I'll start off sucky, but you keep working at it, and eventually you get some people never learn that.
jordan jensen
Well, it'd be nice if they could also focus on being a parent.
Like I I feel like the women stay loud because they're like, I'm a mother, I'm mama bear.
You know, so I'm like, it'd be nice if the dads would get off the lazy boy and be like, I'm gonna help raise my kids instead of just being you know, it's just fucking some people are just beaten.
joe rogan
Life just they wanted to be Spider-Man.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
They wanted to be cool.
They wanted to they wanted to have a good life, and life just fucking cracked them in the dick every time they made a move.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
unidentified
You know, they got their car repossessed, oh Jesus, credit cards.
jordan jensen
There's gotta be something biological though that makes a man not like you have the pride.
Bert Kreisher, I just talked about it.
Like you guys have the pride in your children hardcore.
Like as soon as I met you, you showed me a photo of your daughter.
You know what I mean?
Like, but I do feel like there are a lot of men who are like, that's not my responsibility.
joe rogan
Oh, that's crazy.
That's crazy.
Well, maybe it's the way they were raised, you know.
Um button.
jordan jensen
But maybe if you had lost your job if you weren't in comedy and you were tired and didn't have your didn't have your passion, maybe you wouldn't be as gung-ho about being a dad.
Or maybe you'd feel like a failed dad.
Maybe that's what it is.
Maybe they feel like a failed dad.
joe rogan
Perhaps.
I don't know.
I would have figured it out.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
joe rogan
I just don't believe that.
I just if I lost my job doing something, I would find another job.
I would figure it out.
Yeah, there's other paths.
You don't just stay still if the path doesn't work out.
And some people do.
jordan jensen
Some people do.
I didn't know that until recently that pe some people really do stay still forever.
joe rogan
Oh, they quit.
That well, that's why they love unemployment, because they could just get a check and just still and just wallow and there's so many people who are against unemployment that still that still stay still that are like fuck fuck unemployment, I'm not using the government.
Yeah, well that's even sillier, I guess.
I don't know.
Yeah.
People are weird.
jordan jensen
You know, it just quit comedy right now, there'd be like three jobs that I would be almost just as stoked about.
joe rogan
What what would those be?
jordan jensen
I would love to be a full-time contractor out in the sticks.
I would be um a philosophy professor or a therapist.
joe rogan
Really?
jordan jensen
Yeah, all of those sound sick.
joe rogan
Which one sounds the most sick?
jordan jensen
Philosophy professor.
You kind of become a therapist when you are a professor.
You know what I mean?
You have those kids that are fucked up, so they're reading philosophy and then like me.
I was going in there being like Or the guys that are trying to get laid.
Yeah.
Trying to become a It's a lot of dorks.
Bet it's like I was the only girl major in my class.
And the rest were Dorky guys.
Dorks who wore ties to class, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, philosophy itself is a strange thing because you're just thinking about a structure of how you interface with the world.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
I ha it was the only thing I could study well.
Everything else, I was like, why would I study something that's already been known?
Is it crazy?
But philosophy was like no, they're all just trying to figure out life, which I was like, okay, I get that.
And none of them are correct.
And they're like, none of them are correct.
And I was like, great.
Because I I would study science and be like, we know I get the exact measurement of how to find out this thing.
I'd be like, why do I want to study that?
There's nothing new here.
joe rogan
My favorite book of philosophy I I started reading when I was like I guess I was 16 is the Book of Five Rings by Miyamoto Musashi.
He's a uh samurai who killed sixty men in one on one combat with swords.
But he was all about the way to become a great sword fighter is you have to be balanced.
Like you can't have any holes in your game as a human being.
You have to be an artist, you have to be a poet, you have to learn calligraphy, you have to be completely balanced and you have to see the thing for what it is.
You can't have any bullshit.
You can't have any fat right we were talking about father.
You can't have any bullshit.
There's no bullshit when you're sword fighting.
jordan jensen
But don't sometimes do you ever feel like you're in that flow state in your life where you'll be like I have all these moving parts and I have it down and like I recently had this where I was like I'm oil painting.
I'm doing stand up I have my friends I'm in this groove and then something will happen where I'll just like have like explosive diarrhea or something.
Like something will happen where I'm just like Jesus Christ I thought I was fucking suave.
I had this shit I used to do that with poker where I'd be like I have this whole poker game unlock and then something would happen.
Like the it's almost like one of those swords that you have to have in balance is also humility.
Like you also have to be like and I'm a person who still has a butthole you know right and that's a good thing always.
Yeah because I would be like I'm gonna get in this flow state and then I'd mess up a word on stage and I'd be like I'm an idiot you know so I have to keep that also be like you also are a fallible well that's what's a good thing about stand up it's like it it smacks you every time you do it wrong.
joe rogan
Yeah you gotta do it right.
jordan jensen
It's you it's crazy how true it is that you're only good as good as your last set.
You are it's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah that's why like if you have a bad set you can't wait to get on stage again like get me up there.
jordan jensen
Dude I was like I'm doing no sets in Austin bomb last night hitting Rebecca up I'm like what do you got it's crazy.
unidentified
Well you bust out some old mothership yeah come tonight.
joe rogan
What are you doing tonight?
unidentified
My show Oh okay what time's it at seven yeah that would actually be good.
jordan jensen
Let's fucking go let's do it I was dude there's a clip I wanted to post about that's really funny about your about your club where I was like you get in here and there's a guy who's like my name's Kyle I'll carry you up this flight of stairs I have a I have a PhD in MMA.
I'm gonna pass you up to Derek Derek has an AK 47 and we get in the green room and I'm like they're like do you need anything we'll kill people for you and I was like could I have some like almonds or snacks and they're like no we have smelling salt I was like wait I was like is there any just like water bottles like no we have neurotropic dust.
joe rogan
It was so funny we w new neurotropic we were in the uh green room the other day and uh someone had called us like some alt-right white supremacist club I was in the room with Brian Simpson who's black Derek Poston who's black Asana Mat who's Muslim it was Tony Hinchcliffe Ron White and me I'm like this is a pre-diverse lineup like what are we talking this is so silly.
You're looking at comments see it's hard it's hard to not look at this it wasn't it was it was a video it wasn't a comment it was a video of someone that one of the guys was playing it was like look how fucking stupid this is the idea that this like that you had to be like I'm not even a Republican.
Like I voted for Trump because I thought we were going in a terrifying direction where there was not really a president for four years and the same people are now going to be running the government like let's weren't you like a Bernie bro yes so I I've only voted Republican once in my life the idea that you have to be a Republican to get in at that club is so ridiculous.
That club is filled with gay people black people straight people white people Asian no one gives a fuck yeah that game room is you're just doing comedy you're just doing comedy whoever you are whatever you believe we have tons of lively discussions I will say one time I was there and Jordan Peterson walked through and I was like you can't be here that's too on the nose.
jordan jensen
He's here all the time that's crazy.
joe rogan
It is weird yeah that's crazy with his daughter oh yeah he came with his daughter yeah he's been there a few times yeah he even did kill Tony Oh he was on it yeah he was on Kill Tony That's crazy oh yeah so is post Malone that one post Malone had no idea and I brought him on stage had no idea what the show was, no idea what anything was.
I just brought him up there.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
I did that twice.
Once with Post Malone and once with Tucker Carlson.
I was having dinner with Tucker Carlson.
I'm like, you want to go by and go see Kill Tony?
And then we're there and I told told Tony, and he's like, bring him on stage.
I go, I'm not even gonna tell him what it is.
So I go, dude, we're gonna go on stage.
And he's like, What?
jordan jensen
Oh my god.
joe rogan
But he was great.
jordan jensen
Was he good?
joe rogan
Yes, he was funny, was like laughing, he was cracking jokes with the comedians back and forth.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It was really surprisingly great.
jordan jensen
Wait, you're not Republican.
You used to be Bernie Bro.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Are you Bernie Bro?
joe rogan
I am looking I think the idea of socialism is wonderful if everybody had their shit together and everybody was disciplined.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's not the case.
And I think that human nature, unfortunately, you're gonna need some socialism though.
Right?
You're gonna need the fire department.
Like this is one of the things that I point to all the time.
People say, Oh, socialism doesn't work.
The fire department is an entirely socialist idea.
Like we all pay into it and they take care of everybody's fire.
Right?
You can't have only the rich people have a fire department and the poor people, their fucking house burns down all the time.
That's crazy, right?
We all agree to that.
Well, that should be the same with education.
That should be the same with healthcare.
Are we a fucking community or are we not?
And if we're a community, you have to take care of the downtrodden and you have to do it because it's bad for them and it's also bad for you.
We're all in this together.
So you have to have a social safety net.
I believe in all that.
But I also believe you can't just give people free money because then they they rely on it and they become dependent on it, and then it takes away their ambition, and then they don't do anything.
That's that's true too.
It doesn't mean you're not compassionate.
I don't like either one of these parties.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't think I don't think they there's a solution that's correct.
I think you have over correction after overcorrection.
I think you have the country goes one way and then it swings hard the other way, yeah, America's back, and then it swings the other way.
Now we're the new America and America's this way.
It's like everyone's so tribal and everyone's so locked into their idea that they're the good guys and these are the bad guys.
We gotta get 'em back and we're gonna get him in the midterms, and we're gonna get him in the fucking next election.
jordan jensen
Like, oh it's crazy.
And it's all comedy by swinging back and forth like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, sorta.
It's all on who you talk to with comedy.
It's like there's a lot of bitter people out there.
But you know, that's that old expression.
I forget who said that that we we brought this up before that all criticism is the tragic result of unmet needs.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's a paraphrase, but there's a lot of that there.
There's a lot of like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Like out Jordan is like, why does she have a fucking Netflix special?
She middled for me once, and she didn't even do good.
jordan jensen
Did somebody say that?
unidentified
No.
jordan jensen
Dude, I'm just somebody who I mean I fucking I'll date a libertarian and become a fucking libertarian.
I'll re I somebody'll talk to me about Israel, I'll listen to fucking one Sam Harris episode, now all of a sudden I'm fucking Zionist.
I'll talk to I had talked to John Marco the other day, now I'm fucking all pro-Palas.
Like whatever it is, I switch back and forth, and then I do podcasts, and people are like, you are, and I'm like, I well, I'll tell you what I am.
I'm an idiot, dude.
I will switch, I will move.
Like but I do think that's what makes a comedian is somebody who can try on so many different perspectives.
And it is hard that people are looking at comics like politicians.
joe rogan
You're not an idiot because both sides have points.
That's why you can be swayed one way.
unidentified
I'll double down.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I mean, doubling down is just going down the rabbit hole of whatever that ideology believes.
Because they probably have a really good pitch.
jordan jensen
You know?
joe rogan
And then the you know, if you talk to the socialists, they probably have a real good pitch.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
Totally.
It's just but I double down in a way that's like I'll be like, this thing's fucking bad, and then the next day I'll be like, actually, it's pretty good.
Like I'll I'll stop eating meat and being like, anybody who eats meat sucks, and then somebody'd be like, You want to buy this burger, the iron or hit me, and I'll be like, fuck cows, dude.
Like I go too hard in the paint on both sides.
And I do I remember I remember in college, these girls would bully me, and I remember being like, Why don't you guys like me?
And they were they go, you just have too strong of convictions.
And I was like, Oh, interesting, because I always thought that was a good thing.
And I think for comedy it is to be Like you get up on stage or you do a podcast and you go, what if I just try on this idea hardcore?
And that's like an interesting thing to do, as opposed to being like, well, I see this is kind of good and that's good too.
You know, like there is something about comedy just being like, what if this is the truth right now?
joe rogan
That's an interesting thing to say to someone.
You're too strong of with your conviction.
jordan jensen
I'll never forget that.
I'll never forget the girl who said it.
joe rogan
Did the girl give you an example?
jordan jensen
It was just I would talk the way I talk, where they'd be like, you know, I'd be like, women need to stop wearing dresses.
High heels are ridiculous.
Or I'd be like, men need to do this, or women, you know, or I'd be like, or I'd be like, I I'm gonna go ahead and say diners need to go, you know, like whatever it was.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
jordan jensen
I it just I'd be in or out on topics immediately.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
And they'd be like, you're just like too intense with your thoughts.
And I'd be like, Yeah, totally.
Every I mean, this is like why I would be bad in Nazi Germany.
I mean, I hopefully it would be okay, but I know I'd be somebody be like, wait, no, wait, no.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, is there it's gotta be some sort of a psychological reason why all those people went along with that.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
There's I mean, yeah, they went along.
I think a lot of it was Yeah.
I mean, I think a lot of it was um just kind of dissociation, right?
joe rogan
Well, there's a little bit of that, but then there's also there's a tribal mentality that kicks in, like there's a default switch that happens to people.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And in this country, you saw a lot of it during COVID.
It was like the vaccinated people were hating on the unvaccinated, they should have their children taken away and like put them in the camps, like do you hear yourself?
You hear yourself.
jordan jensen
It's so weird because it's such a different like I was with so many anti-vaxxers, like I was they were they're my friends, but I was like, Oh, I'm getting vaccinated because number one thing that's important to me is comedy.
I have no idea if the vaccine gave me long COVID, if COVID gave me long, whatever the fuck, but I just have to perform.
That's it.
My health comes second.
joe rogan
Did you get long COVID?
jordan jensen
Bro, my shit is fucked up.
I can't like those Ubers that have those smelly trees, I have to get out of my I get immediate migraines.
Like because I my smell is fucked up.
joe rogan
Your smell's fucked up.
jordan jensen
Like if you have deodorant that has like chemicals in it, it's rancid to me.
joe rogan
Really?
jordan jensen
Yeah.
And so many people were people are coming out.
joe rogan
That's your long COVID?
Do you just smell things?
jordan jensen
Smell it's bad though.
joe rogan
I don't think you can call that long COVID.
Long COVID, yeah, long COVID is people that are exhausted and they have like heart palpitations and I got s I got a synapse off.
jordan jensen
I got a synapses.
joe rogan
You just gotta upgrade in your nose.
jordan jensen
I did get an up.
Yeah, but it sucks, dude.
If somebody's wearing cologne, I'm like, I gotta go.
joe rogan
Perfect.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
I would take that's like you got a wolf nose.
jordan jensen
I got a wolf nose.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's great.
Some people change the way you look at it.
jordan jensen
You're right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
I thought I had long COVID and then I stopped eating sugar.
I thought I had the bad one.
And then I stopped eating candy, and I was like, it's crazy.
What a great thing.
joe rogan
Bro, candy wrecks your shit, isn't it?
Nice.
jordan jensen
And I was a whore little candy slug.
joe rogan
Ooh, little candy slut.
jordan jensen
I wasn't eating anything.
joe rogan
What was it saying?
Long COVID can cause altered smell.
There it is, or parasomia, where things smell distorted, foul, or different than they used to, even if the initial COVID-19 symptoms have passed.
So did you get this after you got like when did this start happening?
Did you get COVID?
jordan jensen
Yes, I got vaccinated.
Six times.
Of course you didn't.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The people who didn't get vaccinated got it once or twice.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, they fucked you.
They fucked everybody.
They fucked everybody with that goddamn stupid thing.
jordan jensen
I got it hard.
See, I'll talk to you about this, and then tomorrow, my liberal mom will be like, the vaccine is good, and I'll be like, yes, mommy, I agree.
joe rogan
It's a long conversation.
It would take a long time to explain what was wrong.
But it all boils down to the same thing that it always does, which is money.
They distorted the facts, they distorted the research, they distorted the efficacy, they distorted what it was actually designed to do just because they wanted money.
That's it.
jordan jensen
Did we pay them for the vaccine?
joe rogan
Oh fuck, yeah.
They made a shit ton.
Oh money.
It might have been free for you.
jordan jensen
I like the idea of money, but aren't weren't isn't your camp in on like um control, mind control.
Not mind control, but knowing knowing where we are, like anti-vax people.
joe rogan
I'm not an anti-vaxx person.
jordan jensen
What are you?
joe rogan
No.
jordan jensen
Give yourself a label.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I believe that all medications should be subject to scrutiny.
They should all go through riggulous rigorous double blind placebo controlled trials to find out what the side effects are, what the efficacy rate is, what's the real facts behind it?
That's but this is why.
This is why.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
The problem is pharmaceutical drug companies do their own research.
Not only do they do their own research, but they do their own research that they hide.
So they'll do multiple studies that show no efficacy.
And then they'll rig one study where they can show just like a little bit of an improvement, and then they just sell it and they start going with it.
And they've done that before.
They they got sued because of Viox.
Viox killed 50, 60,000 people, and through internal emails, the pharmaceutical drug company was saying we're going to have these problems, and it listed all the different things that people wind up getting, including strokes.
We're gonna have these cardiovascular problems, cardiopulmonary problems, but whatever the the the wording was, I don't want to like be quoted on it.
But it will be good for us financially.
We'll do well with this.
jordan jensen
It's in the email.
joe rogan
Yeah, in the email, we'll do well with this.
It killed 50 to 60,000 people.
A friend of mine got a stroke.
He got on Viox because he had knee problems.
It was an anti-inflammatory medication.
jordan jensen
Sometimes there's fishy shit like that.
Like sometimes I'll take Prozac from one place and from a different place.
Very different thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, because it's from Mexico.
jordan jensen
It's got sentinel in it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
What do you think about Ozempic?
joe rogan
We talked about that the other day with uh a guy who runs a pharmacy.
The problem with it is that when they're dosing it out to people, they're they're giving everyone the same dose, and it should be dependent upon like how much weight are you trying to lose, what is your body weight?
You know, there's a bunch of different things.
Well, it doesn't seem to be good for you.
If there's poop is sitting in your body, poop stays in your body a little longer and food digests slower and it kills your appetite.
But if you're morbidly obese and you might die from that, this is probably a good solution.
So it's not a it's like don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
I don't want it, I don't need it.
Yeah, but if I did, if I was 600 pounds and I was in this, and then someone said, Look, and I can give you this thing, it'll kill your appetite.
Like fucking please.
Yeah, please.
jordan jensen
Totally.
joe rogan
So it's beneficial for that, and then there's a problem with muscle loss and bone density loss.
But my friend Brigham, who was on the other day, the episode's out now.
But he was saying that the issue is that they're giving them too much of a dose, and if you mix it with other peptides, you can actually eliminate those problems.
So there's a way to dose it out for people that are, and you would just lose nothing but fat.
It is possible to do.
It just has to be done correctly.
So he was explaining.
jordan jensen
And right now it's willy-nilly.
joe rogan
Well, right now everyone's just getting on it and turn instead of just going to the gym, there's people that are like need to lose 20 pounds.
They're getting on Osempit.
Like, that's crazy.
You can lose 20 pounds in a couple months.
jordan jensen
The thing that's frustrating is because I used to be so fat, I used to have type 2 diabetes, and I got rid of it, which is crazy.
unidentified
And like it's frustrating.
Dude.
jordan jensen
Well, that's the thing.
Is I can eat sugar exclusively lose weight if I only eat the candy.
Like it was like this bizarre diet I would go on.
And then I just had to like switch my mind.
But that mental switch of being like, this is not for fun.
This food is not for fun.
You've had your fun.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
Like you did that.
You did the candy, you did the pizza, you did all that.
Now we're using food as like the same way we use sleep.
Where it's like I feel better when I get eight hours, right?
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
And once you do that switch, it's it it feels like things click into place.
So with people on Ozempic, I'm like, if you could just get that turn of your brain, it would help so much.
If you could just it does feel like a switch where you're like, Right.
joe rogan
But think about what you had to go through with acid to get off the OCD.
It's like now imagine you're 600 pounds and you've been eating candy for 35 years.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's you know, it's a big switch.
It's a battleship.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you can't just fucking I think recovery helps.
Turn that motherfucker around.
jamie vernon
Did you see the sugar diet going viral earlier this year?
joe rogan
Yeah, I know Mark Bell was really into that.
Unlimited sugar, restricted protein ever be a good thing.
Well, what is the good of the bad?
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
It's literally I swear I was paying attention when you said I was like, There's no way you're saying to see candy.
It's not just candy, but I thought he was fucking around.
And no, it's like fruit, but he's like, if candy's all you got, it's not the worst thing.
joe rogan
But it's low protein, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's like uh certain amount of protein.
There's a video of him explaining it if you want to watch that.
joe rogan
So he weighs 95 kilograms, which is what is that like 25.
jamie vernon
The video I just saw you said he was like 207, 210, he was gonna get under 200.
jordan jensen
Does he have a face?
Can we see his face?
joe rogan
Oh, he's a handsome guy.
Good looking guy.
But it doesn't work with him because he's really fit and he's been doing a bunch of different stuff his whole life.
My face like he was carnivore diet for a long time.
It's not No, dude.
jordan jensen
See the deep sunken lines?
That's sugar.
joe rogan
He's like 50 years old.
No, this is the new thing.
Like he's he was always like this.
This is what he looked like forever.
And he used to be gigantic.
jordan jensen
You know what pizza is.
This is a woman, we'd be like, that's anorexia.
Because when I told people I was only eating sugar, they were like, that's anorexia.
joe rogan
Hold on, show show what he looks like, Jamie.
Show go go to his uh Instagram and wait, you see how fit this guy is.
Like this guy is in tremendous shape.
jordan jensen
No protein.
Oh, the veins are gut getting me.
joe rogan
Well, he's always had those.
But that's that's my point.
Like, click on that one on the right hand side.
Like, look.
That's what we're talking about.
He's a big jack dude.
So for him to do this diet and say, you know, look, I've got this body.
Well, bitch, you always have that body.
Like, I don't know.
jordan jensen
No, I mean I've gotten very skinny off the all sugar diet, but it has effects, yeast infection all the time.
Deep dark circles from sugar.
From sugar.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Fucks up your sleep.
joe rogan
When did you stop with the sugar?
jordan jensen
Like two months ago.
joe rogan
Oh.
jordan jensen
But I'm having ice cream today because my special came out.
But we've been planning.
We have been planning.
unidentified
We're going to Amy's ice cream and we're gonna have a It's a great spot.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
But I've been off sugar.
It just helps a lot.
I've just been doing fats and like stuff like that, which is great.
And it I can eat as much as it used to be like I had to everything I ate, I had to do a tiny amount, and now it's like I can eat as many eggs and avocado.
joe rogan
Isn't that nuts?
It's doesn't even seem like it's real.
jordan jensen
I know.
joe rogan
All you if you just ate nothing but steak, you would lose weight, and you everyone's like, no way.
Like, yeah.
Because your body would regulate correctly.
When you're done, you're done.
Like if you if you sit down and you have a 16 ounce steak, if you really only need 12 ounces, after 12 ounces, you'll stop eating.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's all you're eating.
But if you have mashed potatoes there and then a bowl of pasta, and then an ice cream, and then a cake.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
Try eating cake after you ate a whole avocado.
You're like, I'm good.
Like you don't, the fat gets you.
It's so crazy.
joe rogan
The f also your your gut biome switches and your gut biome doesn't crave sugar anymore.
jordan jensen
It's that candida that's the candida is what I did, the candida diet.
Because every time I got my period, I had a yeast infection.
And then it was just I was itchy.
And I was like, what's going on?
And I was like, I had brain fog and I chat GBT, and it was like, oh, you're riddled with candida.
And I was like, Oh, I'll try the diet.
And then I immediately started thinking faster and was not itchy at all.
joe rogan
Isn't that bizarre that your gut biome has an effect on your personality?
It's fucked up.
Well, we're we are a literal ecosystem.
We want to think of ourselves as a person, but we're really like a life form that houses life forms.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
It's I think it's because they our control panel is up here, makes us think that we're this like unit that we can fuck with.
Like I think if our eyes were here, we would maybe be like, this is a whole collective system, but this fucks us up.
Like I was watching this fat, huge tall guy eat an ice cream cone the other day, and his arm was like this, and he was like six seven, he was just licking it.
And I was like, it looks like this little man is eating this ice cream cone unbeknownst to this giant body down below.
Like it looks like this little guy's just riding this big guy.
And I think that if we could just slide this fucker down.
joe rogan
Yeah, body awareness of what you are as a whole.
But that's also a lot of people don't do anything with their body.
So their body is just like a truck that they drive around.
jordan jensen
Right.
And we do have a mouth.
I have a vagina, which is a mouth.
You know what I mean?
We have the fucking more face down there.
There's cra the uterus is a fucking other head and the gut and everything.
We just don't have eyeballs there, so we forget about it completely.
joe rogan
Really?
It's a head?
jordan jensen
I think so.
Yeah, it's a fucking whole thinking thing.
Your gut is frickin' all these brains.
joe rogan
It's definitely thinking.
Your heart thinks too.
There's neurons in your heart.
jordan jensen
But the serotonin in the gut and the brain and stuff.
It feels pretty balanced.
It's just the eyeballs fuck us up.
joe rogan
Well, if we could have an understanding that you're an actual system, it would be a lot better for people.
Because so many people just think like, oh, I don't want to worry about my body, I'm worrying about my brain.
Like they think it's almost like vein to think about your body.
And vein is stupid.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's okay, but there's no virtue in being a weak piece of shit.
Like that's not good for you.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
And it just impacts the brain.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not intelligent to not take care of your body.
Stupid.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
It's crazy.
It is, yeah.
And the second I start I stop working out, it is so weird how much pent up energy, and then I'm like lethargic, and then I have to eat sugar, and it all gets fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Also, you start gonna get anxiety.
You're like, oh, start freaking.
jordan jensen
Anytime I per participate in self deception in any way, it bleeds into everything.
Like anytime I'm neglecting some part of my life, you can like smell it on me.
The second I walk in, I'm like, hey, sorry.
I didn't know I shouldn't be, you know.
And I have this whole air, and it's like, I just needed to do my dishes.
I would have been fine.
joe rogan
That's Miyamoto Musashi.
jordan jensen
Oh, that's the sort.
joe rogan
So like literally, that's that's his book is like you have to be balanced.
You have to balance everything.
jordan jensen
That's good.
But then sometimes don't you go sicko mode where you go, fuck it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Kinda, but not for long periods of time.
jordan jensen
Do you drink?
joe rogan
Yeah, but I don't.
I haven't drank in a long time.
But I will.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like I'll have a glass of wine.
But it's been like it was many months before I had anything, and then I had uh like a margarita.
And I was like, okay.
jordan jensen
And you felt nothing.
joe rogan
I mean, I didn't do it because I was an alcoholic.
I did it because it's bad for you.
I was like, why am I doing this?
Because I I'm I drink at my club, I'll have a couple of drinks at the club, a couple nights a week, and then I'll go out with my wife, have a drink or two, and then maybe I'll do a podcast with someone who wants to have a drink, and so we'll have a like a little whiskey, clink glasses, and we're talking, get a little tipsy.
After a while, you're like, you're poisoning yourself.
Yeah, you're drinking seven, ten, fifteen, fifteen drinks in a week.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like that's not good.
And then I stopped and I was like, oh my god, it feels so much better.
And then I felt stupid.
I felt stupid for not doing it.
jordan jensen
I did the same thing.
I'm a sugar addict and a love addict.
I am not an alcoholic, but I was like, I can't, I can't be having extra sugar where I'm not where I don't need it.
Because I'm eating so much candy.
joe rogan
So you got off the alcohol because of the sugar.
jordan jensen
I had to choose.
I was like, it's Swedish fish or alcohol.
I had I had to make the decision.
And I was puffy all the time.
I couldn't stand the little puff.
joe rogan
That's not good either.
Yeah, the puffy's bad.
jordan jensen
And then you have a glass of wine because you're like, I can treat and I'd be like just like fully retarded.
joe rogan
Instantly, right?
Yeah, because your body's not used to it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
And so I was like, well, this isn't that fun either.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
So I'll just not do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think a lot of people, more now than I think ever before, are abstaining from alcohol.
I think it was just a study recently about young people about alcohol consumption in young people is down by what was the number?
So I think it's something crazy, like 25%.
jordan jensen
Well, it's because they're not having sex.
joe rogan
Is that what it is?
jordan jensen
I mean, Gen Z, I need to touch this.
joe rogan
That's uh Harlan Williams snake.
jordan jensen
I love Harlan Williams.
And it was so much.
joe rogan
I love him too.
It was on the table when Trump was here, and he got so happy that his snake.
So he had that snake in his pants the entire time he was doing a podcast, and he told me that he he got a tapeworm, and then he named his tapeworm Dimitri, and I'm like, You have a worm?
Yeah, I got a worm.
I picked it up.
Like it just, you know, it was a gag.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then at the end, he pulls he's like, oh, the worm's coming out, and like it reaches into snake.
unidentified
He had it the whole time.
joe rogan
He pulls out this fucking snake and he puts it on the table, and it's been there ever since.
So when I had Trump on the podcast, he was so happy that Dimitri the Snake was on the table.
jordan jensen
His pants, his little snake pants.
That's awesome.
That's such a look at this.
That's crazy.
I love dude.
Harlan was talking to us about Rocket Man and how they didn't put out Rocket Man because there's a song in it where he imitates being Chinese.
Like he does it with everybody.
He does it with German, where he's like, I la Libin in the world.
And then he does ch a Chinese accent where he's like, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
And they just like buried it.
Like it that came out with Tarzan, and they buried the shit out of Rocket Man and let Tarzan like take the and I was like, I looked it up.
Tarzan is like based off seriously racist original story.
joe rogan
Was it really?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Which is so interesting.
Like Rocky.
joe rogan
Edgar Rice Burroughs, the original Tarzan?
jordan jensen
Um was it Tarzan?
unidentified
Was it Edgar Rice Burroughs?
jordan jensen
Is Tarzan the one where it's like, and we'll be yeah, yeah.
Tarzan, look up Tarzan racist ties, it is there.
joe rogan
So from the original book?
jordan jensen
I think so, yeah.
Like the original original.
joe rogan
Well, it was old.
It was old.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
A white guy who lives with the chimpanzees and figures it out.
He lives with the apes becomes the king, of course.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but I think even before then it was more racist.
I mean, this was a Google.
This could have been one of the things.
joe rogan
Maybe I don't think I've ever read it.
I think I've read the comic books.
I've seen the movies.
I don't think I ever read Tarzan the Edgar Rice Burroughs novel.
jordan jensen
No, I haven't read that either.
I think this was pre that though.
But this could have been me Googling and finding it and being like, see.
But Rocket Man getting buried.
Rock Man's so good.
And if I had seen that as a kid, I would have been so stoked.
joe rogan
So it's one of Harlan's comedies?
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah.
His first.
joe rogan
Okay.
jordan jensen
So it's his first movie, and he's so goofy in it, but he does all these voices for different nationalities, and at one point he does Chinese.
And it's such a funny scene.
joe rogan
1997.
Yeah.
Did you find it I don't think even think I knew about that movie?
jordan jensen
It's I didn't know about it either, but we had Harlan on the pod, and Ian was like, I'm obsessed with this movie, so then me and Ian watched it, and it's like the best.
It's like exactly what you want your kid to see.
It's like a doofus who makes it as an astronaut.
Oh because he's smart in his own.
joe rogan
But they fucked up with the Chinese thing, huh?
It was the one accent that you can't make fun of.
jordan jensen
One accent.
He did all the other accents.
joe rogan
So weird.
jordan jensen
I I don't get that.
Why is that the one?
joe rogan
We live in a bizarro time.
jordan jensen
It's very weird.
joe rogan
A very weird time.
jordan jensen
It's also funny because Disney was like, yeah, the scene goes in, we approve it, and then and then they're like, wait, actually, it's not that's fucked up.
joe rogan
Well, you know, people approve dumb shit all the time.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fear Factor, they improve people drinking cum.
And that's what's got the showcase.
Yeah, they just have to do it.
jordan jensen
Dude, I was obsessed with Fear.
joe rogan
And piss.
jordan jensen
I was about to say, did you ever watch it again?
I'm like, you're on it.
But those people do not.
I used to think they were like hot people.
They're like trash.
Little trash.
Like growing up when I was watching it, I was like, oh my God, I want to grow up to look like her.
And then I look back and I'm like, this is White Dreads crazy lunatics.
I was obsessed with that show.
joe rogan
Well, they made them drink cum and But is it wasn't a bowl cum?
It was Donkey.
jordan jensen
Oh yeah, Donkey Cum.
joe rogan
Donkey Cum and Donkey Urine.
They had to play uh horseshoes to see how much Donkey Cum and Donkey Urine.
jordan jensen
Did they say cum?
joe rogan
Oh uh sperm.
I think we said sperm.
Don't worry.
jordan jensen
And they aired it.
joe rogan
Well, not really.
See, that's what got the show canceled.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Well, people drank the cum and didn't win.
jordan jensen
The cum is not a problem for me.
joe rogan
I would have drank the cum.
jordan jensen
Urine fine.
For me, it was the spiders in the mouth.
joe rogan
The gals chose the urine over the cum.
That's or the cum rather over the urine.
But I think that's a good thing.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah, okay.
Hilarious to think it's gay.
unidentified
Donkey juice.
joe rogan
The episode's called Donkey Juice.
But I don't know if that's really what it's called.
See, the thing is it never aired.
I think Donkey Juice was like the internal name for the episode or the stunt.
But uh so it did air in other countries though.
That's why you could still watch it on YouTube.
Because it aired in I think it aired Denmark or some shit.
jordan jensen
They had to just jerk off a bunch of donkeys?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
jordan jensen
How did they get the cum?
joe rogan
I used to add a bit in in it about it in my act.
They they take cattle prod and they s shove it up the donkey's ass.
And they shock their prostate.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
They just buzz.
jordan jensen
They love that shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
That's c that is donkey rape.
joe rogan
It's more than that.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's kind of alien.
You're an alien.
jordan jensen
For a show?
joe rogan
And forcing it to come.
jordan jensen
That's brutal.
joe rogan
I know.
With electro shock.
jordan jensen
They just blast.
joe rogan
And then, you know, they got like a tube in the end where they're collecting it all.
jordan jensen
For a show.
unidentified
That's the same thing.
joe rogan
We had buckets of it.
jordan jensen
And the donkey paid.
joe rogan
How many donkeys got jacked off?
Because there was buckets of it.
unidentified
So much.
No.
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
jordan jensen
You know what?
I always assumed that was fake.
joe rogan
Oh no, it was super real.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
100%.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
That's crazy.
joe rogan
There's laws.
Like, there's laws, which was really good because like people say, How do I get on Fear Factor?
Like, if you've ever met me, you can't get on the show, so you can't talk to me about it.
If you want to get on the show, you can't talk to me right now.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it will like get me out of conversation.
jordan jensen
That's good.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Nice.
jordan jensen
That's really good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Because I can't help anybody.
Get on the show.
But there's laws.
Like you can't say it's Donkey Cum when it's not Donkey Cum.
It it is cum.
You're drinking cum.
Yeah, otherwise you're your show's not a game show anymore.
jordan jensen
How'd they get all that stuff?
All the worms.
So many worms.
joe rogan
Farms.
Worm farms.
jordan jensen
Oh yeah, for baits.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then cockroach farms with the people that eat cockroaches.
Do you have to put them on a specific diet for X amount of time before they're allowed to be consumed by people?
Yeah, you can't just have them eating garbage and rotten meat.
jordan jensen
And this spiders in the mouth where they were climbing out.
That was the one that me and my sister would watch to torture ourselves.
Where they were couldn't get the spider in the mouth because it was climbing out.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was brutal.
Ridiculous show.
I literally signed up for it because I thought it was going to be cancelled immediately and I'd have a lot of material.
jordan jensen
Were you able to tell jokes on it?
joe rogan
No.
jordan jensen
No, they limited the shit out of you.
joe rogan
No, the they if if I said something that they thought was controversial, most of the time they would edit it out.
jordan jensen
Did Jackass come Jackass was after Fears?
joe rogan
No, I think it was before.
Was it?
jamie vernon
I think so.
joe rogan
Okay.
jordan jensen
I was obsessed with that.
joe rogan
The first one was Survivor.
Survivor was the first one on TV where you're like, yo, which is still on the air, which is crazy.
jordan jensen
That is I thought the Osborne's.
joe rogan
Well, that was a reality show.
But there was ones before that, right?
There was totally Polly.
That was kind of a reality show.
jordan jensen
Oh, okay, okay.
joe rogan
You know, but Totally Polly.
jordan jensen
Was that Polly Show?
joe rogan
Paul Sure, yeah.
He had a the he had like a very famous MTV reality show.
Called Totally Polly.
jordan jensen
Where you just fucked around.
joe rogan
Just traveled around, met people.
It's a reality show.
Um, but like I'm not wrong, right?
Wasn't Survivor the first one of those kind of shows?
jamie vernon
A game show?
joe rogan
No, you know, like a game show, but a reality show.
Reality game show.
jamie vernon
I think I think so.
I mean, it definitely caught there was that wavy that came out around the same year as like American Idol.
joe rogan
What year did Survivor start?
jamie vernon
I think it's like 90.
I was in high school.
I'll check, but it's like 2000ish, 99, 2000.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So Survivor was the first one.
That was that was the big one.
I just can't believe it's still in the air.
That's nuts.
jordan jensen
Was Fear Factor 2000.
joe rogan
2000.
jamie vernon
May 31st, 2000.
joe rogan
Oh, so it was only like a year before Fear Factor, because Fear Factor started in 2001.
They're gonna do a new one now.
That who the hell's hosting it?
unidentified
I saw that.
joe rogan
Uh wait, Johnny Knoxville.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Survivor?
joe rogan
It comes full circle.
No, Fear Factor.
I think there's a new Fear Factor that Johnny Knoxville's gonna host.
jordan jensen
That's awesome.
joe rogan
So it all comes full circle.
jordan jensen
And you hated it.
joe rogan
No.
No, I didn't hate it.
It's just like it was a job.
jordan jensen
You were really sweet to the people.
joe rogan
I was trying to be.
jordan jensen
You're very nice to them.
joe rogan
I try to be nice.
jordan jensen
I remember being like, that's a comforting you'd be a good acid person at trip acid with consider.
I mean, that's the s I mean, that's a fucked up trip to be like, you're gonna put these fucking things in your mouth.
joe rogan
There's that, but I would also be scared to do a stunt, and I'd be like, look.
jordan jensen
We have to make money.
joe rogan
You 100% can do this.
You know, people that have never really completely challenged themselves are not sure of where their boundaries lie, and they get really scared.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
When something new and and crazy is about to happen, and they they get overwhelmed by anxiety, and you can get them and go, hey, listen to me.
You know that voice in your head telling me not to do this?
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck that voice.
You can do this, and when you get done, you're gonna be so happy.
You're gonna be so happy.
But you just have to do it, and it's not gonna be nearly as bad as you think it is.
Just force yourself to do it, and you could do it.
jordan jensen
And they would do it.
joe rogan
Yes, because like I when I was a kid, from the time I was like 15 years old, I was teaching martial arts.
So I I'm used to coaching people.
I would bring people to tournaments and people that were scared and they were gonna have to fight and compete, and I would coach them.
jordan jensen
In the corner?
You don't be in the corner?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
jordan jensen
I just went to the Serrano Katie Taylor.
joe rogan
Oh, did you really?
It's a great fight.
jordan jensen
Dude, I have can I say I am straight as they come, but Katie Taylor, man.
joe rogan
You'd get some of that?
jordan jensen
Dude, I just think she's the most attractive woman.
unidentified
The way she goes, and I fight for the Lord, and she's like, dude, when they're all fucking brain fucked afterwards, and she's like, I just want to go ahead and thank everybody for coming out and I'm number one, my thing.
jordan jensen
And you're like, nobody knows what you're saying.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
The brain damage though is crazy.
I box and I am not.
joe rogan
You still box?
jordan jensen
Yeah, I box, but I don't.
I mean, I I when my trainer is in town, but even sparring, I'm like, we gotta do this occasionally because I'm fucking fucked up afterwards.
joe rogan
Yeah, I have friends that still spar.
I'm like, stop doing that.
jordan jensen
Yeah, a lot of people aren't sparring at all, they just fight.
joe rogan
Well, some that's rare.
Most fighters spar.
There's a few that don't, like Max Holloway for a while wasn't sparring because he was trying to preserve himself for fights, but then when he had to fight Dustin Poor, or he had Justin Gagey, I think it was, with Justin Gagey's like, I gotta start sparring again because I'm gonna fight someone who's really dangerous.
jordan jensen
You can't have any It's just so when you start when I started boxing, I was like, I'm never gonna spar, that's crazy.
And then like a month in, I was like uh so addicted, and it was so much fun.
It felt like you were training so that you could spar.
joe rogan
It is fun to do.
jordan jensen
And then I would do a podcast and be like, oh, and I'd be like, Oh, we can't do that.
We can't do that.
And I you listen to Serrano and Katie when they're like fighting in those like press conferences, and it sounds like two drunk kids.
Like they're like, no, she fucking said that we were gonna and you're like, this is I cannot be doing that.
joe rogan
Well, the real rough one is when you talk to guys that are in like their fifties and they've been retired for years and they're slurring their words, you barely understand what they're saying.
You're like, fuck.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
And they have so much money, but what do they well?
joe rogan
Some of them don't even have the money anymore.
Usually they go through a few divorces because they're crazy.
No one can stay with them.
They're out of their fucking mind.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, and they're probably alcoholics because their brains completely shattered.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
Do they get the men get more aggressive when they get brain damage?
Yeah.
joe rogan
They definitely can.
It depends entirely on the individual.
jordan jensen
But the women get CT.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, 100%.
Yeah, they can get aggressive too.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
You get they get real impulsive.
Men and women that have brain damage.
They get impulsive, they can't control their instincts, their their impulses rather.
Um they have addiction problems.
Because they feel off, right?
So they want to drink alcohol to get to calm down or do cocaine.
A lot of them wind up doing coke.
unidentified
To feel up because they're fried.
joe rogan
Your brain's cooked.
Your endocrine system's all fucked up.
Your pituitary glands have been bouncing around inside your fucking skull.
jordan jensen
Is your brain fucked?
Probably a little bit.
joe rogan
Like just the right amount.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yes, they're right.
jordan jensen
When did you stop?
joe rogan
Well, I stopped fighting when I was twenty-two, I think was the fights.
And I stopped sparring when I was like twenty-seven or twenty-eight.
jordan jensen
Oh, good.
So you had the dummies.
joe rogan
I did a little bit of sparring later when I was in my third.
jordan jensen
Do you do jujitsu?
joe rogan
You do jujutsu.
jordan jensen
Do you grapple with you?
joe rogan
But yeah, but that the the brain damage you get from that is rare.
jordan jensen
It's not maybe I should do that.
My mom always tells me that with it.
joe rogan
Kim Cogdon does it.
Ask her about it.
jordan jensen
Okay.
I just the boxing, the hitting.
joe rogan
Yeah, don't do that.
jordan jensen
But I like but even just training with mitts.
I have such a rage issue that beating the shit out of something feels even when I go to the gym and just beat the shit out of the bag.
unidentified
I feel so much better.
joe rogan
It's super good for you.
There's nothing better to like relieve stress than hitting the bag.
It's the best.
Don't stop doing that.
I mean, definitely keep hitting pads, but don't get any brain damage.
jordan jensen
You know what I'm worried about, Jiu Jitsu?
unidentified
What?
jordan jensen
The fainting.
unidentified
Ah.
joe rogan
Because you're going to get choked out.
You're just going to black out the moment someone even comes close to choking you out.
unidentified
Yeah, if anybody does something to my wrist and getting no and the arteries.
joe rogan
Stuck in a triangle, you're just gonna fall asleep in the street.
jordan jensen
And they're gonna be like, I did a good job.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
Because I I have friends that do it and they're like, yeah, and then my bone was up against mine.
I'm like, I'm done.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Talk to Kim.
It is rough, but it's super addictive.
Once you do it and you get used to it, it's very addictive.
jordan jensen
It's like a puzzle.
joe rogan
It's a game.
Yeah, you're playing a game.
And you get better at the game the more you play it.
And you know, the game is get somebody in an arm bar.
jordan jensen
Right, but the arm bar is all of it is slightly representing breaking them, right?
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
jordan jensen
Yeah, that makes me tap.
Okay.
joe rogan
You have to tap so your arm doesn't get broke.
jordan jensen
The idea of overextending somebody's body part is brutal.
joe rogan
It is brutal.
jordan jensen
That's so gross.
joe rogan
It's gross.
jordan jensen
But it's very but I think that that's a useful skill.
joe rogan
Very useful skill.
jordan jensen
Oh I know.
But the boxing is just bam, you know.
joe rogan
It's useful too.
jordan jensen
Breaking somebody's nose I could do, but you couldn't break their arm.
I could not.
No, the idea of like bone coming through.
Crazy.
joe rogan
Choke them.
Put them to sleep.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
Have you put you put a lot of people asleep?
joe rogan
Not a lot of people.
jordan jensen
Is it a good feeling to be put to sleep?
joe rogan
I don't know.
jordan jensen
You've never been put to sleep?
joe rogan
No, I've never been put to sleep.
No.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
No.
jordan jensen
Are you scared to be put asleep?
joe rogan
No.
No, I just tap.
Well, I know I'm a big thing.
jordan jensen
Right, right, right, right.
Your body probably taps.
joe rogan
No, you tap.
jordan jensen
I know, but you probably your instinct like even if you're like, put me to sleep, you'd still probably be like, no, actually, though.
joe rogan
No, you gotta know like when you're going.
Right.
So like if you're getting choked if like someone's got my back and they've got a choke in, there's a point in time where I know I'm not getting out of this.
You just tap.
jordan jensen
It's smart.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's stupid to fight it off because you get injured.
And then you wind up being really fucked up.
jordan jensen
I love watching MMA.
joe rogan
Do you?
jordan jensen
Yeah, when they jump on their backs like that, when they go full monkey style, it's yes, dude.
joe rogan
Have you ever been to it live?
jordan jensen
No, just that fight.
It was a big deal.
I went, Netflix took me thinking of it.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, but that's a boxing match.
You should go to a UFC live.
It's bananas.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's bananas.
It's yeah.
jordan jensen
I loved going to the Serrano match.
joe rogan
Are you at the club this weekend?
jordan jensen
Who's at the No, I'm in Rochester this weekend.
joe rogan
Oh, cool.
There's a UFC.
I was gonna say there's a UFC in San Antonio on Saturday night.
jordan jensen
I'll go in New York for sure.
joe rogan
Whenever it's in New York?
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
I'll get you tickets.
It's g it gonna be in Madison Square Garden in November.
jordan jensen
I'll go.
joe rogan
If you're gonna be around.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
That'd be so sick.
Oh my god.
I'm gonna wear a fur coat.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'll love it.
It's quite and seeing it in the garden is kind of special.
jordan jensen
Yeah, we're seeing anything in the game.
Oh, they were in the garden, Serrano.
No, yes.
joe rogan
Was it?
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was a big room with a smaller room.
jordan jensen
Big room.
Sold it out.
joe rogan
Wow.
jordan jensen
Toronto made 14 mil or something.
I mean, they made that's great.
Isn't that great?
joe rogan
That's awesome.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
And the fucking the card was incredible watching them.
joe rogan
Massive Square Garden has got a lot of energy in that room too.
There's something crazy about that room.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just like the amount of concerts and fights and events that have taken place and that you feel it in the building when you walk in, you're like, you walk in, you're like, whoa.
jordan jensen
It's intense.
joe rogan
This place is alive.
jordan jensen
It's awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like when you go to a new arena and they're brand new and you walk in the door and it's empty and you're wandering around like, wow, cool place.
But you walk in the garden, you're like, yo, this place is alive.
It's got memories in here.
jordan jensen
The other ones feel like racquetball.
Like you could, you know what I mean?
Like you could hit a racket ball around and want it.
It's like they're the stage because I've done arenas with Tom Bonch Segora, and you can definitely feel the ones that have like been there versus the ones that they put up recently.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, they have history.
History is burned into buildings.
jordan jensen
I'm so bad at rotating.
joe rogan
Oh, it's weird.
unidentified
It's so weird.
joe rogan
It's the best way though, because it's the only way you can do an arena where it's intimate.
So what we're talking about is a stage that's round.
jordan jensen
Oh yeah, in the round.
joe rogan
In the round.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Tom was like, just say a joke, then pivot.
Just but I would every time I get up there and I'd be like, here's my joke.
I'm gonna turn to these people now, and I'd turn every single time.
joe rogan
That's funny though.
jordan jensen
Yeah, it was totally great.
But I couldn't do the like natural rotation.
joe rogan
The good thing about it is though, it it makes the show intimate even though there's 16,000 people there.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because there's people on this side facing people on the other side.
So everybody realizes they're all in it together.
jordan jensen
And the Jumbotron.
I mean my Netflix special is shot.
I was like, wherever your camera is, shove it the fuck up my nose.
Like I'm so sick of seeing specials where I'm watching their whole body the whole time.
Like show my face because my facial movements are like half of my joke.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
And in the arena, you get that.
Like I remember watching Louie at the Hulu at the Hulu Theater, and it was just the fucking jumbotrons.
You saw every little movement he was making.
And I was like, that's so sick because it's so in a club you see that.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
You know.
joe rogan
And that's what you want to see, especially if you're looking at it on the screen, which is weird.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
And then sometimes you watch somebody and you're like, I should just have gone home and watched this because then I would see their face.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
But the Jumbotron fucking nails you, and it's so sick.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that's the good thing about the round, too.
You can have your back to them and they totally could still see your face.
jordan jensen
No, but I'm always worried about my butt.
unidentified
It's crazy.
jordan jensen
I want like a trench coat or something.
joe rogan
Wear a trench coat.
Do like McKinnison used to do.
jordan jensen
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Kinison used to wear a trench coat.
jordan jensen
I can go Trinity.
Trinity from Matrix.
joe rogan
Yeah, they do.
unidentified
My icon.
jordan jensen
Obsessed with Trinity.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Did you ever hear that lady that claims that she wrote The Matrix and they stole the idea from her?
jordan jensen
Dude, anime wrote that fucking shit.
That shit is like ancient as hell.
jamie vernon
It's Turnator and Matrix.
It's both of them.
joe rogan
It's like she says she wrote both of them.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Does there any credibility to what she says?
We don't know.
jordan jensen
I had a joke about The Matrix that people were upset about where I was upset that the Lukowski sisters were in the top ten female directors.
joe rogan
Oh no.
Are they really?
jordan jensen
Yeah, because I was like, if they had come into MGM as sisters, being like, we want to pitch a movie.
Like in the 90s, like we want to pitch a movie.
It's about a guy and he's in a simulation.
They'd be like, how about you simulate my dick in your mouth?
You know what I mean?
Like it's not like anti anything, but people still got mad, but yeah, that joke is that it was one of my favorites for a while.
Because I'm obsessed with the Matrix.
It's my favorite movie.
joe rogan
It was a great movie.
And I think we're about to literally live it.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
We're real close.
jordan jensen
I'm in the camp that everybody thinks I'm fully retarded.
They just told me a lot on Twitter that AI is going to help things, not hurt things.
I'm whole I would like the record to state that this is my theory.
Because I think it's going to be proved right.
joe rogan
You think that AI is going to help people not hurt things?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Oh, that's interesting.
How do you think that that's going to happen?
jordan jensen
I just think that the whole catastrophic this is going to be an an entity that ends all of us.
I don't I I don't think it's going to do that.
I think that I think that I maybe I'm just looking at the positive side, but I think it's such a smart piece of technology that was so um in the works the whole time to be made that it's going to help us solve problems.
Like I think humanity know it has been trying to create somebody that can work on a supercomputer level to solve problems faster and more efficiently.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's definitely the best case scenario use for it.
Right, but the corporations are evil and the problem is they're already they're already shown that these large language models can be programmed with ideology, right?
So did you ever see the disaster they had with Google Gemini when they first launched it where they said uh show us images of Nazi soldiers and they had multiracial Nazi soldiers.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
They like a an Asian woman was a Nazi soldier, a black woman, an Indian they had a Native American l lady who is a Nazi.
That's not real.
Okay, so your ideology by making everything diverse, you've distorted history.
Like so your ideology interfered with truth.
Okay.
But that means we do that when we take down all the but we're right, but we're not supposed to be this large language model.
This large language model is supposed to be eventually super intelligence in artificial form, right?
So a superintelligence wouldn't do that.
It would know that Nazis were German and they were, you know, it wasn't Nazi that they asked for.
jamie vernon
They asked for German soldiers and then it gave people in color, which is 1943, which would have been Nazi soldiers.
joe rogan
Yeah, why are you even getting all technical?
jamie vernon
Well that's I mean, you're asking a large language model to do something.
joe rogan
I know, but it did show German soldiers that were wearing Nazi swastikas that were multiracial.
jamie vernon
I'm just saying it didn't it didn't the question have to be specific when you're talking about these things.
joe rogan
German soldier, which happened to be Nazi.
jamie vernon
I was trying to put that music stuff all night, and you have to be very specific when you want to.
jordan jensen
I don't think there's any possibility that it could be something that is that we have control over, not control that we have control over and is we use it for like don't you think we've always been scared about everything about science, about microscopes, about social media.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
The printing press.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, what they were they were terrified when people first developed trains, they thought people's bodies were gonna explode if they went over 35 miles an hour.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
This is the human error removed is sick, dude.
Those Waymo cars are sick.
The doctors using ChatGPT, they're doing such a better job.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, there's definitely a lot of pluses.
The problem is control.
It's always the problem.
And every person that has an enormous amount of power should be carefully scrutinized.
And the kind of power that you're gonna have if you are in control of essentially a digital god, like it becomes a problem when human beings are involved.
Now, if they become completely autonomous, then you have a problem with us being irrelevant.
jordan jensen
And it's but that's what I'm talking about.
That situation where they become autonomous.
That's what I'm referring to.
So say we have an autonomous entity.
Why would it why would it kill us?
What we don't go you know.
joe rogan
Well, I'm not saying it would.
I don't think it would.
I don't think it would kill us, but it would probably give us incentive to not breed, which I think if I was an intelligent life force, I would kind of do it exactly the way our society is already going.
jordan jensen
Yeah, we're already doing it.
joe rogan
Like right now.
We're doing it to ourselves, but that might be by design, it's my point.
It might be that in order to not alarm us that this artificial intelligence has engineered our diet and our environment to kill our reproductive system.
And it's already doing but it's doing it in a very innocuous way with microplastics and a bunch of it's doing it in a way where we don't even know what's happening.
And it's just happening nice and slowly.
jordan jensen
But on the same coin, it could be like, hey, what if we actually perpetuated the species and got it back to life like the pandas?
joe rogan
I don't think that's gonna happen.
I think what's going to happen is we're going to become hybrids.
We're going to become a cyborg.
Like a real legitimate cyborg.
jordan jensen
I'm stoked about that.
joe rogan
Are you?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You'd be first in line?
jordan jensen
Oh my God, give me the frickin' parts.
You I fainted blood.
No more blood.
Make me a cyborg.
I'm happy.
I love metal, I love scrap metal, I love cars.
Make me a fucking car, dude.
I hate this gooey thing.
joe rogan
I don't know what's going to happen, but I do know it's going to be unprecedented.
It's going to be a new thing.
jordan jensen
I'm surprised.
The one thing that did freak me out is a guy the other day at a bachelorette party had the goggles on that was recording us.
joe rogan
Oh god.
jordan jensen
When I realized that when I was like, oh shit, the I'm just gonna take in everything.
All of the information.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a lot of people wearing the metal glasses everywhere.
Which is like at one point you're like, oh well, it's cool, new technology.
Another thing you're like, but yeah, but people probably don't even fucking know they're getting recorded, and that's kind of crazy.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's kinda weird.
jordan jensen
Well, also I don't like the idea of all these digital images of things.
Like if they if it could be printed out into matter and you could look at it, but the idea of like your entire life, like even us with the fucking iPhones.
All these photos stress me the fuck out, dude.
unidentified
Why?
jordan jensen
Because it's so much uh because there's something about it because it when you have a photo, you're in the present with a past photo, right?
Like I'm I'm sitting here in this reality with a past reality that I can hold.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
The weird giant vortex of memory is almost like my vortex of memory.
You know what I mean?
Like neither of them have matter.
My memory and my brain and this brain here.
I don't like that.
I think that I want the memory to be contained in matter or in my memory.
I don't like this being a brain.
And I don't like it holding pictures of all of my past.
joe rogan
Well, I think when you say I want to be a cyborg, that's you're gonna hold all of it and you're gonna have a hard drive.
So instead of having a memory where it's fallible right now, like your memory is like weird, like when did we do that?
Was that in November?
Oh my god, that was November.
You'll have an actual memory just like you have on your phone where you can go back to like four you know, like you know, like it suggests you on this day, and you go to like 2017, like, oh my god, oh my god, they're so young.
Oh my god, look.
jordan jensen
That would feel less disembodied than this fucking weird unit that we're all addicted to.
You know what I mean?
It's already a part of us.
It's so weird that it's just man and unit everywhere.
joe rogan
The unit you could just put down.
You think it'll be you could put the unit down.
jordan jensen
You think we're gonna be cyborgs like it's gonna be Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Like human beings will have a chip in their brain that any time I'm like, what year was that?
joe rogan
It might not even be a chip, it might be a wearable.
jordan jensen
Where we can put down.
joe rogan
They might be able to have something that you put on the top of your head, you know, with electrodes that touch your temples, and it just sends signals into your brain and works from there.
I mean, who knows?
I it's so cutting edge.
And then once AI gets into the picture, right?
And AI, if you get sentient AI and you get AI that understands like how human neurotransmitters work and what to stimulate, what not to stimulate?
It might devise ideas that we never even anticipated in terms of like how to implement this technology, and it'll probably figure out how to make it better, and then it'll be off to the races.
jordan jensen
I was so scared today because I texted my friend Suicidal.
Like she texted me about something, and I wrote like uh tongue in cheek, I'm suicidal, right?
Like I'm not actually, but I wrote it, and I was like, shit, my phone is now going to send me so many fucking don't kill yourself stuff.
joe rogan
Does it do that?
jordan jensen
Yeah, dude.
Every time I text some shit like that, I'll go on Instagram and it'll be like, don't do this, it's seek help, blah blah blah.
joe rogan
Or that's what's creepy is that your fucking Instagram knows what you're texting to your friends.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
I've had two people recently be like, Do you ever think it like like sometimes I'll think a thought and an ad will come up and two people in one week said that to me.
joe rogan
Yeah, but doesn't that just mean it's a coincidence?
That means that means you're relying on coincidence.
jamie vernon
Watch this thing I sent you yesterday.
joe rogan
I didn't.
What is it?
jamie vernon
Alright, so this got announced yesterday.
They do not describe it.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, I did.
I did, I forgot.
Yeah, go ahead.
jamie vernon
It allows telepathic communication in some way with a headset.
They're clearly connected to something and they don't show that, but these two guys start talking.
jordan jensen
Uh those guys aren't real.
jamie vernon
Oh, they're oh sorry, it's shit.
joe rogan
Why is it have what's this music?
jamie vernon
Some of their sound is playing.
unidentified
Oh, it's an Apple Vision.
joe rogan
Oh, the Apple Vision.
unidentified
We're going to do any language.
jamie vernon
So this one is actually translated.
Let me go back to these two guys talking.
jordan jensen
No way.
These guys just have the telepathy tapes auto.
jamie vernon
It's showing like they're trying to have a communication about food.
It's really hard to like hear this.
That's crazy.
You could be in a party and both have the headset on.
And think words.
jordan jensen
Alright, these fuckers have to be stopped.
This is too crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, now you're different, right?
jordan jensen
Yeah, that's not okay.
joe rogan
I like how you swing one way or the other.
jordan jensen
No, it's one diagram.
These dorks?
These dorks in fucking coffee shops talking shit?
joe rogan
I'm going to use my alter ego to give you a travel tip.
jamie vernon
It translates that into Hindi.
So it starts off in English, which is at the Hindi.
unidentified
Whoa.
jamie vernon
And the weird thing, which was you guys are just described, they don't talk about how this works yet.
They literally just put up a video on Twitter yesterday.
Like, if you want more information, go to our website.
And so you're describing like if the if they have a way to get brain waves in some way.
jordan jensen
Alright, yeah, I'm out on this.
I'm out on this.
Especially when I see the kids that are doing it, I'm like, these kids are just fucking thorks who are getting so far.
joe rogan
They're gonna look like aliens.
jordan jensen
This isn't like the agents from the matrix.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what's gonna happen.
jordan jensen
But if it was the agents from the Matrix, like some attractive men in you know, sunglasses and suits, I'd be like, okay, what you guys have planned is probably better than reality.
But those fucking torques being like this is what we're doing now.
joe rogan
I think no matter what we do, technology's gonna keep moving.
No matter what we do.
It's China's gonna do it, Russia's gonna do it, everybody with power is gonna do it.
Anyone that has the the resources, they're gonna keep pushing this technology.
And if you just think where's it going?
Well, it's going it's going in that direction.
You're gonna become a part of some fucking giant hive mind.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
We're all gonna be sharing thoughts together and it's some bizarre buzz of information that we all suck from.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's gonna be real weird.
jordan jensen
It is gonna be weird, but then you could have the unpluggers, which would be nice.
joe rogan
Well, that's what it's gonna be when you go to the club and you put your phone on the yonder bag.
You can talk some shit, do stand-up.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
Well that I think it's one of the reasons why people love going to a comedy club now.
And especially when you make them put their phone in the yonder bags.
jordan jensen
Because it's a game changer.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
You could actually pay attention.
You actually focus.
You're there, you're living in the present moment instead of constantly checking your tweets.
People, you know, it's it's an addiction, man, and it's a new one, right?
It's one that didn't exist for our parents.
They never had to deal with it.
And we're growing up with this very bizarre connection to the the whole world.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And a lot of it's negative.
A lot of it's not and it's also manipulated, a lot of it's bots.
jordan jensen
I guess I'm hoping it g also gets so bad it gets better.
Like I'm hoping that not to use the matrix again, that there will be a point where you can be like, I'm disconnecting for everything.
Whereas right now it feels like we have to engage with it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Like I it would be nice to get to a point where it's like a oh, are you on or off?
I'm off.
And you're like, oh, okay, I won't try and just.
Yeah, when I go to my house, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Totally.
It disappear.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's good.
jordan jensen
Yeah, and I just put this healthy.
I have like a safe where I lock my good for you.
That's my phone and lock candy.
joe rogan
Candy and your phone, the same.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's harder?
Candy or the phone?
jordan jensen
Candy.
joe rogan
Yeah, of course.
jordan jensen
Fuck the phone.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Candy rules, dude.
Candy's so good.
The phone sucks.
It stresses me out.
joe rogan
Little candy fishes.
jordan jensen
Those are my favorite Swedish fish.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're fishing.
jordan jensen
I just had a real one from Swedish.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
jordan jensen
Sweetness.
joe rogan
Most of them forgeries?
jordan jensen
The fake, the red ones?
joe rogan
This fake Swedish fish.
jordan jensen
Yeah, those are American boatshit.
The Swedish fish are black.
joe rogan
No.
jordan jensen
From Sweden's shit.
joe rogan
Really?
Interesting.
It probably doesn't have our nasty chemicals for the dyes.
jordan jensen
Yeah, the red 40.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Is RFK against red forty?
joe rogan
I think so.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
It's so funny watching RFK go through the lesbian moms that I have.
Like, you know, because they're so liberal, so they're like, fuck RFK.
And then at one point he's like, We I want to bring back raw milk.
And I said to watch my entire town of Ithaca be like, well, we did love raw milk.
We actually like that quite a bit.
Because they're like right now siphoning raw milk illegally off of farms.
joe rogan
It's so silly that raw milk is illegal and you go buy whiskey at Costco.
jordan jensen
It's so weird.
joe rogan
So dumb.
jordan jensen
Raw milk is so good.
joe rogan
It's really good.
jordan jensen
Francis Ellis is all about the raw cheese and milk.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's good for you.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And for a lot of people that have lactose intolerance.
jordan jensen
Oh, not Francis L. Jason Ellis.
Francis Ell is a different company.
joe rogan
Oh, Jason Ell is the comedian.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's really good for you.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just don't get it bad.
Don't get it where it's continued.
jordan jensen
And then what happens?
unidentified
You just have a bug or probably get fucking ranted diarrhea.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but whatever.
Better than a fucking cancer.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I think your body, when it's homogenized and pasteurized, it's like, what is this?
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
With no enzymes.
What is this water protein you're making me drink that I'm gonna fart out?
jordan jensen
Yeah.
I bet we could drink endless raw milk.
I bet we could really go ham on raw milk and cheese.
jamie vernon
Uh Swedish fish is a taste supposed to be called a lingenberry.
joe rogan
A lingonberry.
jamie vernon
But that black the black stuff is a different kind.
It's called Salmiac, which is black salted liquor.
joe rogan
Like that?
Is that your shit?
jamie vernon
Ammonium chloride?
joe rogan
Ammonium chloride.
jordan jensen
Nice.
jamie vernon
Probably not better than red forty.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, let's let's Google ammonium chloride.
jordan jensen
We assume everything Nordic countries do is better.
joe rogan
I know.
jordan jensen
It's crazy.
jamie vernon
Smelling salt.
jordan jensen
They'll be in the audience and I'll be like, oh, you think you're better than me?
And they're like, no, we really like you.
joe rogan
White crystalline water soluble salt.
jamie vernon
That's just salty.
joe rogan
Oh, formed from ammonia and hydrogen chloride used primarily as a fertilizer.
And expectorant and cold medications and a component in soldering and galvanizing fluxes to clean metal surfaces.
Also found in dry cell batteries such as a flavoring agent and its natural form.
It's called salamoniac.
jamie vernon
Delicious.
jordan jensen
It's good.
joe rogan
Well, it's like um monosodium glutamate.
Everybody was scared of that for the longest time.
And Bourdain and I were talking about it, and he's like, no.
He was like, it's good.
He's like, it makes the food taste better.
I go.
jordan jensen
Anthony Bordage.
joe rogan
Right.
It does, right?
He's like, yeah.
I go, what do you think about all the stuff about it being bad for you?
Because I think it's bullshit.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
And what does it do?
joe rogan
It's just a monosodium glutamate is like what they would always put the thing was that it was always you would hear that it was used in Chinese food.
But it was used in a lot of food.
I remember when I worked at uh Newport Creamberry, they used to have some laying around.
jordan jensen
I think you go into places where you can MSG is every time.
joe rogan
Yeah, but there was a name that it there was a product.
MSG enhances umami flavors with less sodium, about one third of the sodium of salt.
Why NACI primarily That's just table salt at A C L. Wasn't it called accent?
Wasn't there something like that?
Where there was a monosodium glutamate product that they would have for restaurants.
God can't remember what it was called.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is it accent?
Yeah.
There it is.
jordan jensen
That's a good rebrand.
joe rogan
Global food company known for amino science umami seasoning.
Yeah, that's it.
So they'd have like a tub of that stuff.
You'd throw it in whatever the fuck you're cooking, it made it taste better.
What was the monosodium glutamate was like the thing that everybody was always blaming?
Oh, I gotta stay away from Chinese food.
That fucking MSG kills me.
jordan jensen
But why do we say that?
joe rogan
I don't know.
It's probably one of those things that we got stuck with, like saturated fat's bad for you, because some cunt got a lot of money from the sugar lobby.
And so they wrote some fake science and everybody bought into it.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those guys fucked everybody so hard, and they did it for 50 grand.
They did it for 50 grand like the 1960s, and forever we've been fucked.
jordan jensen
We've been fucking.
unidentified
60 years, everybody's been like, oh stay away from it.
joe rogan
Stay away from fat.
Uh the perceptions of MSG's danger stem from the anecdotal reports and flawed early studies, not from consistent scientific evidence.
For most people, MSG does not cause health problems.
However, a small subset of the population may be sensitive to it and experience temporary mild symptoms.
So what's the mild symptoms?
Headaches, nausea, drowsiness, yeah, flushing or sweating.
Maybe you just ate too much, you fat fuck.
It was once called the Chinese restaurant syndrome.
Now known as MSG Symptom Complex.
These symptoms often appear within two hours and are typically mild.
Yeah, but also you probably ate like a pig.
jordan jensen
Also whiskey again.
joe rogan
Difficulty breathing in rare severe cases.
You probably drink beer and ate fifty bowls of noodles, you fat fuck.
jordan jensen
Is RFK pro fucking is he like pro uh uh checking all of this stuff, or is he isn't he the anti, just like let it all run?
joe rogan
Or is he No, he thinks you should know what's bad for you.
And if you want to take it, you should there should be a label on the food letting you know that the stuff in there has been shown to cause X, Y and Z. Okay.
That's it.
Like he's not he doesn't say we need to get rid of cigarettes or we need to get rid of whiskey.
Like if you don't say that, those two things.
If you don't say no more cigarettes, no more whiskey.
If you don't say that, then shut up.
jordan jensen
So the left is worried about deregulation.
Right.
joe rogan
They're worried about deregulation.
jordan jensen
Is that true?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
With environmental concerns, I'm sure they're worried about deregulation with banking and industry that worry about deregulation.
jordan jensen
Is there any party pro-regulation?
joe rogan
Me?
jordan jensen
Is there any party that's just pro regulation, regulate AI, regulate Instagram regulate?
joe rogan
The Democrats are much more um interested in regulating things.
Like if you look at the most regulated states, they're Democrat run states.
Like California has a lot of red tape and regulations if you want to get anything done.
jordan jensen
Socialist is the most regulated.
joe rogan
Yeah, because they want control.
They want more more control from the government, but they have a bigger bloated government, and the way to keep that functioning is you gotta go through hoops and ladders to get through anything.
jordan jensen
Anything that you want to get all or nothing.
I feel like you have to regulate everything or regulate nothing.
joe rogan
No, some regulation is good.
Like regul like your your parents are contractors, right?
There's a good example.
jordan jensen
Too much regulation there.
joe rogan
Too much regulation, but you need inspectors.
jordan jensen
Fuck the inspect they suck.
joe rogan
Okay.
You can't say that because if your family does a good job, and I'm sure they do, that's fine.
But there's a bunch of fly by night fuckheads that r m you know make a house and don't follow code and then shit goes sideways and falls apart.
jordan jensen
That stuff is like that's I mean the bureaucratic bullshit that contractors have to go through is psycho.
joe rogan
That's true too.
jordan jensen
I used to be a contractor, dude.
unidentified
The amount of I should have been I think there's a comfortable medium.
jordan jensen
I th yeah.
I don't know.
joe rogan
My stepdad was an architect, so I grew up around construction sites as well.
jordan jensen
So you know how frustrating that guy is.
joe rogan
I do, but I also know that there's a lot of shady motherfuckers that are involved in construction, and you've got to make sure these assholes follow code, otherwise this house is gonna collapse and kill everybody inside.
People suck.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Some people suck and they they cut corners, they save money, they do things all half-assed, and you need someone to go and inspect it.
jordan jensen
But then it's weird to not have regulation on other there's no regulation with social media.
I mean, unless it's the censorship shit.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
That's it's weird.
joe rogan
And it's really bad for you.
Psychologically, it might be one of the worst things that's ever happened to like collectively, society, psychologically.
Like if you look at Jonathan Haight's book, do you have you ever read his book Um The Coddling of the American Mind?
jordan jensen
No.
joe rogan
But it's all about it's all about social media and then self-harm with girls.
This is a big thing.
Self-harm, suicidal ideation, suicidal thoughts.
That all comes like this because ramps way up when social media gets introduced.
jordan jensen
And there should just be elected committees, elected psychological committee, elected philosophical committee.
joe rogan
Who's gonna tell you you can and can't do it?
Who's who's gonna say you should and shouldn't say things?
If you don't like it, you should get off of it.
And that's what I do.
I just stay off of the most are just.
I know.
But so is booze, right?
The you get they have to know, don't do that, it'll ruin your life.
Don't do this.
This could ruin your life too.
Like, and it also sucked your time over.
unidentified
It needs to be regulated like a drug.
joe rogan
Who's gonna be the one?
Who's gonna tell you what we I don't want anybody telling me I can't go on Twitter.
If I'm at home and I don't have nothing to do, and I I pay taxes, I fucking my bills are paid, I want to just fuck off any tactic for attention monopolization has to be removed, says the the committee that doesn't exist.
jordan jensen
Like you know how you feed them.
joe rogan
But it's not mop monopolization if you can shut it off anytime you want.
jordan jensen
But it pulls you in, it sends you alerts, it gives you the dopamine thing, it's gives you.
joe rogan
I don't have alerts on.
No, I've never had alerts on.
jordan jensen
The kids do.
joe rogan
Well, they should shut that shit off.
Someone should teach them how to use it correctly.
And also tell them like, hey, this is a lot of negativity, and a lot of these people are wasting their life on this shit.
You're wasting your time.
jordan jensen
But I know that, and I just fell into a dark hellhole last night.
Like it's hard to avoid.
joe rogan
It's it's it is, but you can do it, I do it.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but I I can do it, but 13 year old Jordan would be fucking hanging from that closet at the Airbnb.
I mean, it would be rough.
joe rogan
Fifteen year old Joe would be uh tweeting horrible shit at every celebrities.
jordan jensen
Oh, just horrible shit.
That's the other thing.
Horrible shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, under fake accounts, you can make thirty different accounts.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Make a new Gmail address, make a new account.
All they have is that it's a good idea.
jordan jensen
Maybe that should be no more fake accounts.
joe rogan
Yeah, but then the thing is whistleblowers are important, right?
If someone is in the government and there's some shady shit going on and you can expose it and you don't want to die.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't want to get Seth Riched.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
But isn't there another way to whistleblow, like graffiti or something?
unidentified
No.
jordan jensen
It doesn't work by a billboard.
joe rogan
It can't go viral.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Billboards don't go viral.
You gotta you gotta be able to express yourself without fear of consequences because there's a lot of people that don't have any power and there's uh a government, or maybe you find out that the corporation you work for is doing some horrible shit and they're bypassing some environmental regulation and dumping toxic stuff into the ocean.
jordan jensen
Like well, maybe it just comes down to regulating the corporations and being like, bro, you can't make money off of people's data.
You can't make money off of it.
joe rogan
That's a problem.
It's because they they didn't we didn't know when we all signed up for it that data was going to be this massive commodity.
Not only is it very valuable, but then it gives them insane power.
The people that have all that money and have all that power, now they're in control of you know, uh essentially all social discourse.
jordan jensen
So maybe that's the thing that needs to be regulated.
joe rogan
I don't know.
If just when they do regulate it, then it's like like you saw Did you ever read the Twitter files?
Did you read any of the stuff that Matt Taibi and Shellenberger and all these guys when Elon purchased Twitter?
One of the things they found out was the intelligence communities have been deeply embedded into Twitter and then they were involved in suppressing certain narratives and pushing other ones and it was like really sketchy stuff, like dangerous, dangerous stuff.
Because it if they have the power to suppress accurate real information, then you you're propagandizing to the entire country.
You're you're shifting narratives, you're changing the way people think about things, this can affect elections, this can affect public health.
This it's gonna be affect everything.
And they were doing that.
And they were doing it because they had regulation over social media, they had power.
Elon comes along and he's like, fuck that, it's wild west time and opens it wide up and everyone's like, oh, it's all racist now, there's Nazis like Yes, there's more of that now because it's not getting banned.
But also there's more people that you know can talk about virtually anything that they want to.
And you can debate it out.
You can talk about the climate, you can talk about the moon, you can talk about asteroids, you can talk about foreign governments, you can talk about anything.
And that's better.
It's better to have people say horrible shit, but also be able to say true shit than not be able to say anything.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but I worry about the I worry about the I s it's just comes down to kids for me because they get radicalized.
I mean, it when you see the racist shit and you join the tribe, it just like becomes They can.
joe rogan
They can also get radicalized, they can also become Christians, they could also become like hikers, they could also like really get into jujitsu, they could also like join video games, they could join ISIS.
jordan jensen
Yeah, ISIS.
joe rogan
They could also do whatever the fuck they want to do.
I mean, this is just we gotta duke it out in the battlefield of ideas, and that's that has to be able to take place.
You can't have people decide what you can and can't discuss.
Because the problem with that is like then they have power over you and they have power over the most important thing that we do as a culture, which is figure out what's right and what's wrong.
Figure out who's correct and who's who's incorrect.
What's what's a fact and what is a lie?
What is propaganda?
Why why have they made so much money pushing this thing when there's no science behind it?
And if you say they they then they say trust the science.
Okay, well, show me what the science is.
And then you have people that are looking at the science that are actual scientists, they get boycotted and banned from Twitter.
That's one of the things that happened during the this whole FBI uh infiltration of Twitter or whatever the organization was that the government had that was deeply it was multiple organizations deeply embedded.
They were kicking people off that were like Stanford scientists that were they were they had a different view of how the pandemic should be held handled.
They're kicking them off Twitter.
jordan jensen
And then you get to a point where you need regulators on the regulators and who's gonna regulate the regulators.
joe rogan
Who's gonna regulate the regulators?
jordan jensen
So you think Wild West teacher kids correctly.
joe rogan
Yes.
I think that's better.
I think this is the world we're living in, and it's a weird world.
But this is the reality of the world, and you need to prepare them for the reality of the world.
Don't shield them from it.
jordan jensen
Right.
I guess it's just Technology being such a drug is an issue to me.
It is a drug, but it feels like the it feels like the government making money off of selling fentanyl.
Like it that's what it feels like.
joe rogan
But it's also fun for kids too.
They're doing Snapchats and they're fucking they're having a good time too.
It's not all negative.
You know, it's just it can be negative.
And the pylons, like when people like that lady what she did to her daughter, which is the most evil fucking thing ever.
But there's groups of kids that will go after a kid and pile on them and attack them anonymously.
And you know, kids kill themselves over things like that.
You have freaks them out.
jordan jensen
Teens, how do they deal with it?
joe rogan
They're pretty remarkably healthy.
It's very strange.
jordan jensen
Um They have social media, but they're crazy about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, one of them one of them just got off of everything.
She's she's once concentrated on her schoolwork.
She hasn't been on any social media in over 90 days.
It's very impressive.
jordan jensen
But that's an addiction to be like 90 days I'm clean.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's also she can do it.
You know, it's like it's not an addiction, like, oh my god, you know, if you ever get on social media again, now you're gonna be homeless and s snort in social media.
No, it's like it's a thing that's not necessarily good for you.
Just like cake.
Don't eat cake all day.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
But if you want to have a birthday cake, or you want to occasionally have a piece of cake, you have dinner, nice dinner, let's get some dessert.
Fuck it.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but what about the cake?
What if every time I went to go eat cake, there was 90 other dudes in the cake shop that were being like, we should kill this group of people, and you'd be like, fuck, I really want to eat cake, but these people keep saying that, and maybe I believe them because I've read so much.
At some point, somebody should walk into the cake shop and be like, dude, you guys can't be here.
joe rogan
There are there are laws, right?
So like there's free speech, but if you threaten someone, there's laws against that.
jordan jensen
And if you threaten a group.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah.
If you say, I want to kill all the Greeks in America.
Like some of them will come get.
jordan jensen
Nobody wants them dead.
unidentified
We love them.
joe rogan
But if if you just said something like that, yeah, that someone would vid visit you from the FBI if you make threats against people.
That's but we have existing laws that already protect people from that.
jordan jensen
Okay.
joe rogan
I just think most people should stay the fuck off of it because most of the people that are doing it are wasting their life.
jordan jensen
It's crazy how I just last night was sucked into this vortex, and then I just put my phone away and my dog was sitting right there.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
And I was like, oh hey, real life thing that loves me.
joe rogan
Also, I had no idea that this was going on with you.
I had no idea.
jordan jensen
Yeah, I know.
It's ridiculous.
It sucks so bad because I was trying to be so I was like actively trying to say a woke thing that I went through, patting myself on my fucking back, and it just fucking spun out of control.
joe rogan
You can never be woken up because it's all horseshit.
It's all horseshit.
It's all it's just a cult.
It's and it's a cult that is mostly perpetrated by people that don't have a religion.
So it behaves like a religion.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can get excommunicated, you can get cast out of the kingdom for life.
You the there's rules.
If you if you follow those rules, you'll be good.
If you're not, you're a heretic.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a religion.
And it's a religion for people that don't have a religion.
Because there's a fucking weird part of our brain that whether you are a democrat or republican, it it fits that spot.
jordan jensen
Right.
joe rogan
It so there's a the th if you don't have something in your life that you you think of as a higher power, or at least have like some sort of ethical and moral foundation and some goal, some higher goal that you ascribe to.
Something will fit fill that spot.
There's a spot in your brain, and that spot will be I'm a Republican.
Or that spot will be I'm a liberal.
And we gotta these goddamn racists and all these all these white people.
We gotta get rid of white people.
White people say that.
We gotta do with the real problems, white people.
unidentified
They'll say that.
joe rogan
And they'll say they're pat themselves on the back while they're saying it because they think they're being a good wokster.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just nuts.
It's just religion.
jordan jensen
It's just like it's crazy how many people DM'd me and I DM'd them back, being like, hey, I just want you to know, like, I'm so I like totally didn't mean to hurt anybody, and I'm really sorry if you're offended by this.
And they would just immediately be like, Oh, it's totally okay.
I I take back everything I said.
When what they said was like, you fucking bitch, and I just was like, hey, I'm a person.
And they're like, oh shit, I've completely forgot.
And I was like, oh, okay, yeah.
joe rogan
Everybody can believe it's a terrible way to communicate.
jordan jensen
It's it's bizarre, yeah.
I mean, I fucking do it.
I talk so much shit about everything, and then I get there and I'm like, oh yeah, this is I think it just feels good to believe something.
It feels so good to stand your ground on something and to be like I did something today that meant something.
Even though it doesn't mean anything.
joe rogan
It doesn't.
jordan jensen
We need meaning so fucking bad.
joe rogan
We do.
And that that's why it takes the place of religion for people who don't have religion.
jordan jensen
But it doesn't have to be religion.
You can have it be in the you can have it be the same.
joe rogan
No, it doesn't have to be religion.
No, but I mean there's a spot in our brains.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
The religion is always been there, and we we've filled that spot with whatever the fuck it is.
Leftist politics, right wing ideology, whatever the fuck it is.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You find a thing that becomes your religion.
jordan jensen
Totally.
joe rogan
People are fucking broken.
We're so weird.
It is but we're also wonderful or fun.
When we you know, when we work right.
jordan jensen
Yeah, when we're face to face.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean it's sometimes it's not, you know.
unidentified
Crazy.
jordan jensen
But then you run into the person who talks shit about you and you're like, oh hey, what's uh yeah, you were just playing the video game.
joe rogan
Yep.
jordan jensen
Of hatred.
joe rogan
Yep.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And that's what most people are doing on on Instagram and on Twitter.
Because it's just such an easy thing to do.
And especially if your life sucks, it's a great distraction.
You can pay attention to other people and tell fuck Jordan it fucking cunt and just say horrible shit and it distracts you from whatever is wrong with your life.
jordan jensen
But the video game of like health and body perfection, like getting your getting jacked is like the religion that many comics are in, me too.
And it is it does take that role a lot.
Like a lot of times when people are just hatred, I'm like, just target lower belly fat.
If you want to be fucking activated about something, get fucking pissed at that.
You know what I mean?
Because it's always I look at the picture of these people and they're just like miserable fuckers in a basement.
And I'm like, dude, just what if you just spent all day taking a really long bath and just cleaning that shit off you, you know what I mean, instead of hating me.
joe rogan
Um, think about what we're talking about with OCD, those tight grooves of behavior that just get just it's so easy to slide into those grooves.
They're so honed.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They've been used so many times, just an instantaneous decision to go down those pathways.
It's hard for people.
It's hard for people to snap out of them, especially people that are fragile and that are worried about getting attacked themselves, those are the most vicious.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
The most fragile people are the most vicious.
They're the most mean, the ones that are worried about being criticized themselves.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hurt people, hurt people.
jordan jensen
True dat.
joe rogan
That's it.
jordan jensen
I've done it.
I've done it.
I've heard people.
joe rogan
We all have.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's normal.
It's normal part of being a person.
It's just the social media thing, there's very little value and a lot of negativity.
Or you could use it correctly if you're a journalist or if you're someone who's like curated a good feed and you just want to find out what's actually happening.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because the world's filled with like crazy shit that happens all the time that you don't know about unless you get on Twitter.
If you just paid attention to the mainstream news, you'd miss 80% of what's going on in the world.
jordan jensen
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, I mean, there's so much.
There I've I talk so much shit about social media, but the amount of animal videos that have brought me back from the I mean, I found out that otters have a little skin pocket, and it's like saved my life multiple times, just knowing that.
Like that shit is so good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Any fast intake of National Geographic online is like most of my time I spend if I'm fucking off on my phone is on YouTube.
And I don't have a problem with that because most of that is like videos.
I'm getting educated.
jordan jensen
Yeah, I would not have been able to be a contractor without you.
joe rogan
There's so much you can learn if you just do it right.
Like YouTube is the most amazing resource if you just do it right.
jordan jensen
And there's just some fucking guy who's like, I'm gonna teach you exactly how to utilize this impact driver, and you're like, yeah, I don't know why you're doing this, but thank you.
joe rogan
Yeah, why are you doing that?
jordan jensen
It's really weird.
Some of those people, they're like, I'm gonna tell you how to change a Toyota tire on a Nissan truck.
unidentified
And I'm like, that's exactly what I mean.
jordan jensen
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
Those guys rule.
joe rogan
Oh, there's so much good how-to stuff that's available online.
But or you can get on Twitter and just start yelling about the Jews.
Or figure out figure out a thing, whatever it is.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the fucking climate.
Do you understand what's happening?
unidentified
We won't have an earth for our children.
joe rogan
You know, people go crazy.
jordan jensen
Are you worried about your kids' future?
joe rogan
Um, of course.
Yeah, of course.
I'm I'm I'm worried about everybody's future.
I'm worried about their future.
I don't want anything bad to happen to them.
Just like I don't want anything bad to happen to anybody.
jordan jensen
That's why I can't.
I don't think I can have kids.
joe rogan
But when people say that, I was like, I wouldn't want to have kids today.
I'd be like, yeah, why would you with all the books and medicine and shit?
People had kids before they figured out doors.
jordan jensen
When they say I don't want to bring a kid into this world, like I f sometimes don't want a kid just because the idea of letting my dog outside without me scares me.
But like and I'm neurotic.
But when they say that, I'm like, you're talking about the absence of consciousness being superior to consciousness.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
That that's a paradox.
You can't say one is better than the other.
There is no better until you're born.
joe rogan
Not only that, there's a lot of people in my mouth in my life that I love.
A lot I have a lot of good friends.
I have a lot of people that I love.
The only way you make people is they have to be babies.
And they grow up to be people that you love.
That's the game.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's life.
You have to if you love people, you probably love kids.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You just don't know it.
And you you probably are, you know, terrified of responsibility, which is real.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
But you can have kids.
It's it's not bad.
jordan jensen
Do you think everybody should do it?
joe rogan
No.
I think you know I think you can have a rich and full life and never have children.
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
And I always resented that when I didn't have children.
People say, Oh, you don't even know, you don't have kids.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Like, okay.
joe rogan
Like, I don't don't say that.
That's silly.
Alienate people.
Yeah, it changes it.
jordan jensen
Did it unlock like a Molly level of love?
joe rogan
Yes.
Chappelle had the best quote about this.
He said, not only did it change the amount of love that I have, it changed my capacity for love.
jordan jensen
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't know like how much you love your dog, and I know you love your dog.
I've seen you with your dog.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You love your kids uh times a million.
jordan jensen
But that's frightening.
That level of love.
How do you let them go to school?
joe rogan
Life is crazy.
Life is frightening.
You just have to learn and grow and just deal.
This is just part of the thing.
You can't just be safe forever.
You're not gonna live.
You're gonna die.
We're all going to.
You just have to exist.
And to you know, you have to like when you don't see your friend, like bye, and you you know, they get on a plane, like, oh my god, what if the plane crashes?
What have I never seen them again?
You can't live like that.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but a child, I would be saying.
You had to teach yourself to chill.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
And then you still you only chill so much, you know, you love them so much, it's hard.
But I think uh there's a reason why societies like people to have children because it makes you much more concerned with law and order, makes you much more s concerned with you know, cleanliness and pollution and all the the harm that could happen to your child and yeah.
You worry more because if it's just you're selfish and you're by yourself, fuck everybody, I'm gonna go get a whore.
You know, like okay.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're not really a part of this thing.
You're just kind of like you're a leech, you know.
Like this this thing is all of us together.
jordan jensen
It would frustrate me if I had kids that kid people without kids have equal right to vote.
That would annoy me.
joe rogan
Why?
Oh, because they could vote for negative things about your kids.
jordan jensen
It just would it would piss me off.
I'd be like, you don't you're not keeping a life around, you know what I mean?
Like you're just a selfish shitter and eater, you know.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of those selfish shitters and eaters too that think that somehow because this is one of the things that people are being taught today that somehow or another, because there's so much money in the world, like you're owed something, and they should just we should have universal basic income and your needs should be met.
There's a bunch of people that think that way.
Don't think that you should provide a value, that your needs should be met because there's so much wealth in the world, and that everything else, whatever the the wealthy people have on top of that, that should only exist once their needs are met because there's a a fake scarcity crisis in this country, and it's really because the the wealthy people have gotten so much.
jordan jensen
But that's the Bernie bro.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, there's some truth to that though, right?
There is some truth.
Like if someone acquires all the money and everybody else is poor, obviously you have a broken system.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bernie's idea was to take a small amount of stock market exchanges.
Just like a fraction of a penny for each one of these, and that money would all be an incredible resource that would go to education and health care and all these different quality of life things that would have a legitimate impact on society.
That's what I was interested in.
That was my most compelling thought that he had.
The most compelling thought to me.
I was like, that seems like that would work.
and it would change a lot of things.
jordan jensen
I'm I've always been down for the tax the shit the corporations.
I've always been down for it and not view them as having human rights.
joe rogan
Well the weird thing is that they have to they have the ability to donate insane amounts of money towards congressional campaigns and sending it.
jordan jensen
That's fucked.
joe rogan
That's fucked.
jordan jensen
So if they're gonna take that stop that no what is that called what is that called electoral funding?
joe rogan
Uh sure.
jordan jensen
Collection funding?
There's a name for it.
But stop it.
joe rogan
Campaign funding?
jordan jensen
Campaign funding.
Stop that.
joe rogan
And it's not even just that.
It's like it's funding super packs, it's funding NGOs.
It's it's there's a lot of shit that goes on that's just really about influence.
jordan jensen
But if you get a corporation that's making that much money, tax the shit out of it for schools.
joe rogan
Well, not a bad idea.
You gotta be able to make money.
The real problem with corporations is they have to always make more money.
Like if you have a responsibility for your shareholder, if you're a CEO, every cor every quarter, you have to make more money.
Like the idea is like you're doing really well, you're making more money.
And the only way to really keep making they never go, we're good.
Hey everybody, we're good.
jordan jensen
Why not?
joe rogan
Because they're cunts.
Oh, okay.
That's the game they're playing.
They they're playing the I want more money game.
They're not playing the let's make the world a better place game because it's a corporation.
So it's a sociopath.
It acts like a sociopath.
Have you ever seen like the the when they've done these studies where they're like, well, look at the behavior of a a corporation.
It's basically a psychopath.
unidentified
That's why I think they should fund the shit.
jordan jensen
It's crazy how much the middle class is taxed.
joe rogan
What they really fucked up was with the stock market in general in the first place.
jordan jensen
Stock market is so weird to me.
I will not put any money in it.
I buy I buy gold and I buy a house, I buy a car, I buy a watch, but I won't do the stock market.
joe rogan
But it's crazy that everybody gets to be involved in like IBM.
jordan jensen
That is so weird to me.
joe rogan
It's weird.
jordan jensen
But I'm not allowed to say this because people go, oh no, Jordan, you gotta put it into a fund that is an index, da da butt.
And I'm like, I don't have to gamble.
I grew up white trash.
Gambling is a bad thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
But in my family, you're not allowed to do that.
joe rogan
The thing is, it is a real thing and it does work.
Look at Nancy Pelosi.
She's got half a billion dollars.
Right?
She did it in a shady way.
jordan jensen
Is that good that she has that?
joe rogan
No.
jordan jensen
It's not good.
joe rogan
No.
jordan jensen
My friends who are like I'm.
joe rogan
It's not gonna make her live longer.
She's she's eighty-two fucking years old.
She looks terrible.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It's like you it's the end is nigh.
Stop working.
jordan jensen
And my friends are like, I made 50 grand off bit Bitcoin, and I'm like, you just put it back into Bitcoin.
You're gonna keep it in Bitcoin because now you're stuck in an addiction until it's gone, until it dangs.
You know what I mean?
Nobody that I know is like, I'm pulling it out.
Maybe a couple.
joe rogan
Some people have, and they've made a lot of money.
jordan jensen
That's great.
Yeah.
I have one friend who did that very proud of him.
But typically it keeps you in it.
joe rogan
It's like the same people that stay off social media.
They're rare.
jordan jensen
They're rare, but they utilize the system.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
When I was microdosing, I could do that.
I could post and be like, I'm just gonna do it.
joe rogan
Why do you stop microdosing?
jordan jensen
Because I was I was in and out of a relationship that when I would microdose, would my brain would be like, bro, what are you doing?
You gotta get out of this thing.
And I'd be like, okay, just want micro dose.
But now I've now I'm back to it.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I get that.
jordan jensen
When it shows you a truth that you cannot handle.
joe rogan
And you're like, yikes, but I don't want to be alone.
jordan jensen
I would take the mushrooms and they'd be like, You're better.
Come on, dude.
This is guy is like mean to you.
You're a cool chick.
And I'd be like, shut up, I'm not cool.
joe rogan
The m deal is gross.
jordan jensen
I'm so it's the best, though.
It's my favorite.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I hate back and forth.
jordan jensen
I like fighting, yeah.
joe rogan
Fighting in the makeup sex.
jordan jensen
I just like somebody who's very honest and is like, that's a stupid thing that you did.
That's a good thing that you did.
It's a good thing.
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
Yeah, you gotta be able to do it with someone where you calm them down and say it rationally.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you gotta say you love them first.
And you gotta say nice things first.
jordan jensen
Yeah, that was the problem.
unidentified
There's none of that.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
But the mushrooms would be like they it would become a I'd be immediately be lucid and be like, you can love a person and not be miserable.
That those two things can happen at once.
You can love somebody and not be in a relationship with them because it doesn't work.
So I was like, okay, we're not gonna microdose.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm on the fence about microdosing, but I think for some people it seems to be a giant quality of life enhancer.
jordan jensen
It just tells you when to stop.
You can't do it that long.
You can do it for like two weeks.
joe rogan
Microdosing?
jordan jensen
Yeah, and then it like doesn't do shit.
And you have to stop.
joe rogan
Well, that's probably good too.
It's probably like most things.
You know, you shouldn't drink every day.
If you want to go on a vacation for two weeks, you're gonna get hammered.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's good.
jordan jensen
But the mushrooms will be like I mean, they'll just be like, dude, what are you?
You it's a the it never gets addicting.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
jordan jensen
But I did it a lot during the pandemic and it helped.
joe rogan
I know some people that got addicted to the idea of like spiritual awakening.
jordan jensen
Oh, the ayahuasca people.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Some of those people get cooked.
unidentified
They get cooked.
joe rogan
They get overcooked and they start reading poetry on Instagram.
You're like, yo.
jordan jensen
Oh my god.
When I get the text messages, it's like, hey, I love you so much.
I'm like, damn, we did another ayahuasca journey.
joe rogan
No, that's cool though.
Someone's just saying they love you is nice.
jordan jensen
That's nice, bro.
joe rogan
Ari sent me an I love you message the other day.
I was like, what were you on?
Molly.
jordan jensen
Oh, I'm always dude.
He's gone for a while, right?
He's like in South America or something.
joe rogan
He's off the fucking reservation.
jordan jensen
He is so inspiring to me with comedy, where he'll be like, I'm taking I'm stopping I'm not doing it right now.
joe rogan
Well, he's very smart.
jordan jensen
He's so smart.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's very smart.
jordan jensen
He did the whole sp I mean Eric Abrams and my whole team did it, but Ari, like every step of the way would be calling me every day and be like, What are you doing?
Do this, and I'd be like, I don't know what I'm doing.
Tell everybody to pause, do the I mean it was crazy.
joe rogan
Ari's very strong in his beliefs.
Some of his opinions are terrible though.
Ari famously told me to never uh put out a three-hour podcast.
unidentified
You gotta edit it.
joe rogan
In the beginning, he goes, Why is your podcast three hours?
I said, 'Cause that's how I felt like talking for three hours.
You should edit it.
No one's gonna listen to for three hours.
jordan jensen
Three hours when you were just starting it out.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
Um I always did it three hours.
Like they don't have to.
jordan jensen
How long have we done it?
joe rogan
Don't listen.
Almost three hours.
jordan jensen
Jesus.
joe rogan
No.
Oh yeah.
How do you do that?
jordan jensen
It is a time warp.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Because we're locked in.
So if you're really locked in, if you're having a really locked in with someone, you're really having a it seems like What if you don't get locked in?
It happens sometimes.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Some some cop podcasts are women.
No.
Men too.
jordan jensen
Non-comics?
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
Non-comics.
Even some comics.
You're like, God, I have nothing in common with this guy.
You know?
jordan jensen
Brutal.
That's like when I'm in therapy and I'm talking about yet another breakup and my therapist is it's the worst feeling ever.
And I'm like, we need to lock in right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, lock it in.
jordan jensen
But you've had not lock in days.
Have you ever had it be your fault?
joe rogan
Oh, I guess.
Probably.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
What do you do?
joe rogan
I mean, I try.
I mean, at this point, I'm pretty good at it, so I know like how to finagle a conversation.
You know, generally I look for a blunt.
I'm like, okay, I gotta get this.
jordan jensen
I have to change my hand.
joe rogan
I gotta fucking fire this up and make fun of this.
jordan jensen
Oh, you're pro weed, you're weed guy.
joe rogan
I love weed.
jordan jensen
You love weed.
joe rogan
Oh, I love it.
jordan jensen
Okay, I just started using weed for sleep and Well, it's weird for sleep.
Okay, but it's the only thing that's ever worked ever.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
Do you use edibles?
jordan jensen
Flour the other day, edibles the other day in together.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the thing is that I think it prevents you from going into REM sleep or it hinders your REM sleep.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but it lets you watch.
It lets you watch yourself enter sleep, which rules.
Like being like, and goodbye is sick.
unidentified
Because every morning you wake up and you go, I don't remember falling asleep, but on weed, you're like, this is it.
jordan jensen
Here it is.
unidentified
Yeah, that's it.
joe rogan
No, I know a lot of people that use it for sleep.
I know a lot of people that always hated weed and used to like when I would smoke, they were like, Why weed makes you lazy.
I'm like, it doesn't.
I'm telling you, it doesn't.
You're lazy.
Weed does not make you lazy.
jordan jensen
That's me.
I always thought weed makes you lazy, but now I'm using it for sleep.
joe rogan
Yeah, I thought it too until I was 30.
I met my friend Eddie.
My friend Eddie Bravo was the one who got me high for the first time when I was like 30 years old.
I hadn't gotten high since I think I got high, like maybe a small handful of times when I was a comedian.
When I when I first started doing comedy, rather.
And then before I was a comedian.
Like maybe my whole life, maybe seven, eight times ever being high, ever.
Until I was 30.
No, I just didn't like not being in control.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I always associated people who did drugs with people who never got anything done, and they were a bunch of fucking losers.
And I never wanted to be that.
jordan jensen
If you smoked a blunt right now, you would have no fear that it could turn a bad way.
unidentified
No.
jordan jensen
Well, you don't have any of the like my heart's gonna stop, I can hear my blood in my ears.
joe rogan
I don't know.
jordan jensen
You don't have any of that.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no.
jordan jensen
Have you ever?
joe rogan
Sure.
I've gotten paranoid before.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
When you just write it out.
joe rogan
Well, I had to figure out why.
And generally it's like there's something bothering me in life.
There's something.
So the real thing about it is it exposes something that's bothering you.
Well, you should go probably fix that.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but what if the thing that's bothering you is that you can't deal with the fact that you have skin.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Like, that's what happens to me when I smoke weed is I'm like, this shit has gotta go.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
You have a different mind than me, I guess.
That's the thing I wouldn't recommend it for everybody.
I know people who can't smoke.
They don't like being paranoid.
I like it.
I like being a big thing.
jordan jensen
Yeah, some of you fuckers love that shit.
joe rogan
I like being a little bit more.
jordan jensen
Because then after the panic, you're you're like, I'm good now.
joe rogan
Good, but also it's good to know like maybe you have blinders on and there's some real vulnerabilities in the world, and you should probably consider them sometimes.
jordan jensen
Have you ever had a crazy one that you were like, that's not right.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
No, not that bad.
I've just been real paranoid before.
Just super high, like yikes, and then you calm down, you're like, whoo.
Once it's over, you're fine.
jordan jensen
It's crazy for you to be paranoid because you're like one of the people that should be paranoid.
You have like lizard man coming after you or whatever.
What is it?
unidentified
What's his name?
jordan jensen
Lizard guy?
joe rogan
Liver king.
jordan jensen
Liver king.
What happened?
joe rogan
Yeah, if anybody should be paranoid, I should probably be a little paranoid.
But anybody in the public eye should be a little paranoid.
Anyone, you you included.
jordan jensen
Yeah, I didn't hide and deleted some stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
For sure.
But like, whoa.
jordan jensen
This has got to come down.
joe rogan
Well, it's uh I think marijuana's a tool, like everything else.
I think you can learn things from it.
And I think it's uh it's like steroids for comedy.
You can come up with some stuff when you're high that you I don't think is available.
I don't think yeah, I don't think those thoughts are available if you're sober.
There's things that I wrote that uh I wrote when I was high, those like there's no way I was writing that without any help.
jordan jensen
Yeah, I guess I've had it a little bit, but yeah, I have to hit the sweet spot or I go right into panic mode.
joe rogan
The sweet spot.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the key.
jordan jensen
You know what helps me if I always have a Xanax somewhere.
unidentified
Oh no.
jordan jensen
Like it just exists in my so I just know that there's a yeah, bullet that I can pull.
joe rogan
That's a crazy one.
That's a scary addictive one.
jordan jensen
Xanax is so addictive.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Jordan Peterson, speaking of which, he was on that shit.
jordan jensen
I thought he was clon clondic bar, clon clonopin.
I thought it was on them clond eggs.
joe rogan
Well, he was definitely on um benzodiazpine for a long time.
jordan jensen
That shit.
joe rogan
That's Xanax.
And so that's one of the ones where you get off of Xanax where you uh you could die.
There's only a couple of drugs where if you get off of it, you could die.
Alcohol's another one.
jordan jensen
Alcohol's one, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Xanax is another one, and it's really hard for people.
jordan jensen
Dude, I bought clonopin in Mexico and I was like, I'm just gonna use this when I have a panic attack.
Done.
Done in two weeks.
Every night I was being like, well, might as well take a little bit after a little and I was like, oh, you need to never allow this around you.
I got a Xanax the other day, and my friend was like, You can have as many as you want.
And I was like, I need one and never give me another again.
Because this is the thing that I'll keep it just in case.
joe rogan
Just like break glass in case of war.
jordan jensen
Break glass, it's a break glass pill.
unidentified
Yeah, totally.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan jensen
Or else I fuck or benzos are fucking dude.
joe rogan
I've heard no.
I was on a flight once with a lady, and she uh she she said, There is nothing in this world that's better than a Xanax and a glass of wine.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I was like, I don't think you're supposed to drink with Xanax.
She's like, Nope.
unidentified
It's so sick, dude.
jordan jensen
What was what I did the other day?
Poppers?
joe rogan
Oh no.
Amel nitrate?
unidentified
Poppers.
jordan jensen
Dude, I had no idea.
Because I don't do anything.
And I was dancing at a at a wedding, and my gay friend was like, sniff these.
joe rogan
Oh, gay guys love that.
jordan jensen
Dub.
Just a mini rave for a second.
joe rogan
How much did you do?
Like a lot.
How many times did you do it?
jordan jensen
Um, enough where I felt fucked up, like five.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan jensen
I know.
joe rogan
It gives you like instant brain damage.
jordan jensen
Yeah, that's what it felt like.
That's what I think.
unidentified
It does.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think it's like it cooks.
jordan jensen
It's really, it's gotta be bad.
Because I went from being such a downer to being like, marriage is stupid, to being like, yeah, it was crazy.
I was dragging people in.
But that's like the brain damage from the boxing where you're like, dude, sometimes I need to be a little stupid for a second, or else I'm just constantly being like, society is evil.
joe rogan
I wonder what's worse for you, amyl nitrate or boxing.
jordan jensen
I don't know.
joe rogan
What is what's the side effects of amyl nitrate?
Because I know uh a lot of the gay fellas like it when they bought them.
jamie vernon
What it's actually made for is to relieve pain of an angina attacks.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan jensen
Which I only need to get that.
joe rogan
What is angina?
jordan jensen
What the fuck?
That's when you're xeno bar between your anus and your vagina.
Angina.
joe rogan
What is the side effects of amyle nitrate abuse?
jamie vernon
Angina taxes, chest pain, discomfort caused by reduced blood flow to the heart.
joe rogan
Oh.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
And so amyl nitrate reduces that?
jamie vernon
That's the reduces the pain of it.
joe rogan
Oh.
jamie vernon
Because it relaxes the blood vessels and increases the blood and oxygen too.
joe rogan
Oh, it relaxes that booty hole.
jordan jensen
Yeah, it makes the butt hole open.
unidentified
Woo!
jordan jensen
I was worried I was gonna shit my pants when I did it, but yeah, but I didn't do it.
joe rogan
I think other things have to happen for you to shit your pants.
jordan jensen
Yeah, a gay man has to try and have sex with me.
joe rogan
Someone has to pound you in the asshole.
Um side effects, headaches, dizziness, flushing, rapid heart rate.
Um I got some more severe risk, life-threatening blood condition called methamoglobin.
Methyl ma say that.
Help me out.
unidentified
Methyl Methymoglobinia.
joe rogan
Uh and dangerous drops in blood pressure, especially when combined with other drugs.
unidentified
Hmm.
jordan jensen
Methyl.
joe rogan
Does it cause brain damage?
Google does does uh amyl nitrate brain damage.
jordan jensen
Dude, you better say that it does, or else I'm doing that right now.
unidentified
Damage didn't come right up.
jordan jensen
Oh fuck.
joe rogan
Let's see.
It can cause both acute and long-term brain damage.
Why wouldn't it come up immediately?
Primarily through two long-term, acute and long-term brain damage.
Primarily through two mechanisms, oxygen deprivation and direct neurotoxicity.
Severe or prolonged exposure can lead to permanent cognitive and neurological issues.
jordan jensen
Yeah, I mean you feel that immediately when you sniff it.
joe rogan
You're like, yeah, this can't be good.
jordan jensen
This is it feels like somebody's hitting the back of the bed and you're like, dude, it's so crazy.
It's like whip bits.
joe rogan
Oh, but way more, right?
It's way stronger.
jordan jensen
Yeah, it lasts way longer.
joe rogan
I did whip it's uh the newbird creamery place that are worked out because we had like real whippets.
Like whipped with like a giant whipped cream canister, like a huge one.
jordan jensen
That's sick.
joe rogan
Like the real things where you make the whipped cream, we would have to pour the sugar and pour the cream and then mix it in.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
If I do that with a whipped cream bottle, aren't you not allowed to use any of the whipped cream?
That's always been my problem.
joe rogan
Oh, we had the gas.
We had the actual gas back there.
We had one of the kids that we worked with was a total dirt bag, and he knew how to get high off the gas.
We would all go back there and get high with this guy.
jordan jensen
That's so fun.
joe rogan
That's I only did it like once or twice.
Because you you you hit it and you like you like have like almost like an out of body, like whoa, whoa.
Like, whoa.
jordan jensen
It's awesome.
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it only lasts like 15, 20 seconds, and I was like, oh my god, you're dumb enough as it is.
Don't get dumber.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
It's always the idiots in the background.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just used to get so high.
I used to smoke a blown every morning before school, and I just would get I was so crazy stupid.
And then when I got older, my brain was just like, you can't have any more of this.
If you do, you're gonna bite your tongue away.
joe rogan
It's definitely probably not good for kids.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, God.
Like you're developing.
Your brain's developing while it's constantly being bombarded by THC.
That's not good.
jordan jensen
My dad was just such a weed guy.
He was like a you can smoke weed with me whenever you want.
joe rogan
Oh, that's funny.
jordan jensen
Have you smoked weed with your kids ever?
joe rogan
No.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Okay, see, that's how appropriate.
I told them uh we've had conversations about drugs, and I said the most important thing is stay away from any and all pills for a bunch of reasons.
Not just because what the pill supposedly is bad for you, but because I bet what's in that pill is not what's supposed to be in there because of fentanyl, and they know that.
jordan jensen
And powder coke is fucked.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
Coke is fucked.
jordan jensen
I think coke is the worst.
joe rogan
Well, it's all fentanyl now.
It's all there's so much fentanyl, and there's fake Xanaxes and fit and they're all fentanyl.
There's Molly, fake molly, it's all fentanyl.
jordan jensen
And the fentanyl, if it's small enough, it's fine.
joe rogan
Well, it's so much, it's so small the amount that can kill you.
Have you ever seen the amount of fentanyl that is lethal?
jordan jensen
That that cop showed?
joe rogan
No, like have you ever seen like in comparison to a penny?
There's a photograph on the internet of the amount of fentanyl in comparison to a penny that's lethal.
That will 100% put you in the fucking ground.
Fentanyl is also so small.
jordan jensen
It's the best feeling ever though when you go under for surgery and they give it to you.
Yeah.
joe rogan
What did you get surgery on?
Did they give you fentanyl?
jordan jensen
I used to be so I was so fat that I had all the skin and I got it cut off.
joe rogan
Yo.
How painful was that?
jordan jensen
Afterwards, brutal.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan jensen
They should kind of shuttled me out pretty fast.
They were like, all right, go ahead up and out.
joe rogan
I can't go home.
jordan jensen
It was crazy.
unidentified
Draining.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Go home and drain.
jordan jensen
Draining.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It had to go, though.
It was in the way.
joe rogan
Must be happy now, right?
That you did it?
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
It was stuck in my, it was getting my zipper.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan jensen
I was having a tuck.
Yeah, like a dick.
It was awful.
joe rogan
Ouchy.
I've only d caught my dick in my zipper like two or three times in my life.
unidentified
It's brutal.
joe rogan
It's not fun.
jordan jensen
How do you catch it in there?
Wait, why is your dick up that high?
Oh, I see.
Baggy pants.
joe rogan
But he's just not paying attention.
Like going raw dog.
jordan jensen
It's weird that you guys have a whole external package down there.
You just have balls on the outside.
joe rogan
The balls and the outside is the dumbest fucking invention of all the time.
jordan jensen
I'm sorry about that.
The itchiness and the wetness.
joe rogan
That's not the problem.
The problem is getting kicked there.
jordan jensen
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
That's the problem.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
But that we that evolution had to give you that.
You had to add something.
joe rogan
I guess.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
I guess.
jordan jensen
We have so many problems.
joe rogan
It's just to keep them from overheating.
Because you need sperm.
jordan jensen
Where they hang.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, they have to be able to cool in the breeze.
Because if they're getting overheated, it's not good for you.
It's not good for the spirit.
unidentified
It's crazy.
joe rogan
And it's the most vulnerable part of your body other than your eyeballs.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just hanging out there.
jordan jensen
It helps though.
Men are very intimidating.
It helps that you guys have that.
joe rogan
Do you have a spot to hit?
unidentified
Totally.
jordan jensen
It helps.
I don't think we would mate with you easily without the balls.
joe rogan
Interesting.
jordan jensen
Sometimes when the penis goes in and the balls touch you, you go, oh yeah, he's just a person.
This is safe.
You know what I mean?
Because you have two squishy guys that are like, don't worry about this fucker.
He's he's just hard, you know.
But it helps us remember that you're fallible.
joe rogan
The balls do.
jordan jensen
Totally.
unidentified
Okay.
If you guys were just rods running around, we'd be like, go away.
joe rogan
Well, imagine if you didn't have to get hard to have sex.
Like you didn't have to be aroused.
That would be crazy.
Like animals.
Animals just have a bone.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
How do they?
They don't have to get hard.
unidentified
Uh uh.
jordan jensen
Dogs get the red rocket.
joe rogan
But they have a bone, though.
jordan jensen
Ew.
joe rogan
There's a bone in there.
jordan jensen
In there?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
jordan jensen
You could break your dog's dick.
joe rogan
What is that bone called again?
We have one out there, a giant fossilized walrus bone.
jamie vernon
Baculum.
joe rogan
Baculum.
That's right.
It's a bone.
Yeah.
I think all animals have it except human beings.
jordan jensen
Monkeys can't have it.
joe rogan
Do monkeys have a baculum?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
Probably not.
They're always jagging off.
jordan jensen
They're always jacking off, dude.
Every zoo you go to.
unidentified
You have to cover the children's eyes.
joe rogan
Chimps, gorillas, monkeys.
Oh, and it's like it's designed to be jacked off.
It's right there where your hand drops.
Some species?
jamie vernon
Yeah, only some species.
jordan jensen
But the like a little fuzzy one, but not the ones that look like us.
joe rogan
Deer have it, right?
I'm pretty sure deer do.
Matter of fact, I know they do.
And so do like moose and elk and what m mammals don't.
Primates, oh, it's present in some species within the orders of primates.
Rodents and carnivora.
I don't know what that is.
Bears, dogs, and walruses all have a bone.
Because like you don't have time to get hard.
Okay?
You're out there in the wild.
Shit's crazy.
jordan jensen
What they just slide it in?
joe rogan
Just bram it in there.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
If that's where the tur if you lack a backbone.
unidentified
The back.
jordan jensen
Grow a backbone?
jamie vernon
I don't think that's where it comes from.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
Our primate ancestors did have one, suggesting it was lost through evolution.
That's kind of weird.
Probably lost when the aliens came down and manipulated us.
jordan jensen
When could when was that lost?
When women don't?
joe rogan
Really?
Wow.
But cats have like a hook dick where they get stuck.
jordan jensen
A barb.
joe rogan
Yeah, have you ever heard cats where they're stuck together?
Oh and they're fucking ass to ass and they can't get loose and they're fucking kicking each other.
Not present in humans.
Present the peanuts of some primates.
Gorillas and chimpanzees have baculums.
Wow.
unidentified
What?
jordan jensen
Chimpanzees have them?
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Wow.
Rodents, backups.
jordan jensen
When did we lose them?
When it what evolutionary step did we take to leave?
joe rogan
Aliens came.
jordan jensen
I think it's probably when women started being like that guy I want that guy's genes and not that guy's.
Right?
unidentified
Maybe.
jordan jensen
Because if I keep getting loads blown in me by betas.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
It doesn't serve our population.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
I have to be like that elpha male's sick.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
So I'm gonna rub my monkey butt.
joe rogan
Like his dick.
jordan jensen
Whereas other species, it's like it's a free-for-all.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, other species also, it's I bet we probably got rid of it as soon as we figured out habitation.
So as soon as we figured out homes and doors and we could structure, you know, like keep people out.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah.
And you'd be like that much.
Yeah, totally.
jamie vernon
Her theory is uh on a line with I think Richard Dawkins' theory, sort of.
joe rogan
Oh, look at this.
Um proposed honest advertising as evolutionary explanation for the loss of the baculum.
The hypothesis states that if erection failure is a sensitive early warning of ill health, aha, physical or mental.
Females could have gauged the health of a potential mate based on his ability to achieve erection without the support of a baculum.
jordan jensen
Everybody I date has penis problems.
Every comic needs a blue chew, so I shouldn't be letting any of their bacculums in my bacculum.
Oh no.
joe rogan
Are you only dating comics?
jordan jensen
Is that I'd say I'm not anymore, I'm done, but that's what I've done forever.
And musicians, which is the same thing.
joe rogan
Basically, same problem.
jordan jensen
But constant blue chew.
It's crazy to be at a group of comics.
joe rogan
Well, it's a crazy new thing, right?
Like, what did they do in the 60s?
jordan jensen
I think they said, hey, I have a problem where sometimes I get hard don't get hard, and here's the things I could use from you to help.
unidentified
And now they just go, nope, I'm hard, which is psychic.
joe rogan
The things that I could use for me to help though won't work on everybody, but this is like the the selection thing.
It would keep those guys from breeding.
jordan jensen
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
That's probably what it is.
People have ill health.
Like there's probably a reason why your dick can't get hard.
jordan jensen
Blue chew dick is so weird.
It feels like a strap-on.
And it's attached to somebody who's anxious, and then it's just this rock hard dick, it doesn't make sense.
unidentified
Alright.
jordan jensen
Because you're like, this guy's afraid to be here, and that dick is not his dick.
That's somebody else's fucking dick.
joe rogan
He's afraid to be here.
You get guys that are afraid.
jordan jensen
Oh yeah, totally.
Where they're like, Oh, it's not even Yeah, there's something about the stand up and the it's I think people just think that I'm gonna be mean to them.
joe rogan
Oh that's it, because you're funny.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
And if you're funnier than the guys you're fucking, that's a real problem.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Which I I don't think I've ever had sex with somebody above me in comedy.
joe rogan
That's a problem.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Uh yeah, totally scared of you.
jordan jensen
I think they're scared of me, and they also are scared of yeah, I think it's mainly they're scared of looking foolish and having me be like, and then you're you're in her act.
Yeah, totally.
Dude, the amount of dating app people that are like, I don't want to be in your act.
I'm like, fuck you.
We've never even met you piece of shit.
It's so crazy how many people say that.
joe rogan
Yeah, the dating app thing is wild.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
When I see people just like constantly scrolling and picking people and choosing people, my f single friends that are on dating apps, that's an addiction unto itself, because there's always someone waiting.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's always some new this is not I don't like the way she smiles.
Fuck this.
I'm out of here.
And then next thing you know, you've you got three or four more dates lined up and well it's ruined dating because everybody has a cue of people they can date.
jordan jensen
So they go on a date.
I know so many people who are like I walked out after five minutes, and I'm like, Oh god.
You don't know that person, and also it'd probably benefit you to have an hour-long conversation with somebody, like as opposed to being like, sorry, we're not compatible.
joe rogan
Right, but I think women are worried about guys getting fixated on them and then not leaving them alone, and then texting them and fucking with them and start and then being mean when you they get rejected.
jordan jensen
That's the best.
The DMs I have that are like, just please be love it, I love you so much, and then whore and I'm like, wow.
I never have responded once.
It's crazy.
They do get fixated for sure.
But then you Yeah, but then you have to then it teaches you to set boundaries, which is good to be like, hey man, I'm not gonna text with you anymore, you gotta chill.
joe rogan
All that's gonna go away when you put on the headset.
jordan jensen
I know.
joe rogan
When it goes we all lock in and we'll go and the sideboard them fuck off.
Well, you're gonna read their minds too.
You're gonna know, oh my god, this guy's a total sociopath.
He doesn't give a fuck about anybody but himself.
Everything he's saying is a lie.
jordan jensen
But that's so fucked up.
For people with OCD who are like, what if I kill that cat?
And they just get it.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
You'll probably be able to see why they think that way.
Like, oh no, no, no, you're okay.
Like, you're just freaking out.
And maybe you won't think that way when you're embraced by this hive mind.
Maybe you'll abandon all the maybe that'll be like one of the the great side effects of it.
jordan jensen
It would be good for people, like I my best friend was paralyzed from the the C2 down, and it would be good to read her mind and be like, what is actually the pain coming from?
Because she was like, I don't know if there's pain.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
You know?
joe rogan
Well, we had the guy on who had the very first neural link, and he's paralyzed.
He paralyzed like a diving accident.
And um he uses his head now to control his computer.
Like he can play video games with just the chip, so he can't move his arms.
And he's keep playing video games, and he says it's like I have an aimbot.
because I point to what I want to shoot and like immediately shoot at it.
jordan jensen
Eye movement.
joe rogan
His brain.
His brain moves the cursor around.
jordan jensen
That's awesome.
How?
joe rogan
I don't know.
jordan jensen
Like he just moves it around.
joe rogan
I can feel like somehow or another, there's the the way the computer interfaces with the neurochip.
The so the brain interfaces with the chip, which interfaces with the computer, and somehow or another you can control movement.
And it they're getting better and better at it.
jordan jensen
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Which is the problem for the people that got the first one.
Okay, you're gonna be able to pull that out and give me a new one.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Or is this the one upgrade?
joe rogan
I asked him about that.
I was like, if they is this like it?
And he's like, I think this is the only one that I can get.
I mean, maybe as technology advances, they'll be able to take this one out and put a new one in, but at one point in time, like the wires were coming out and it wasn't working anymore, and so they had to like re-inject them back in.
jordan jensen
Shove them back in there.
That's crazy.
I mean, we started doing that with back pain, right?
Where people stick it in to fix the nerves in your back.
joe rogan
Do they?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
My uncle had that.
joe rogan
Well, that's the ultimate goal of Neuralink is to restore movement.
It's gonna be able to replace your entire spinal system.
You'll be able to this thing will tell your muscles and your brain to fire.
So if you have a break in your spinal cord, it'll be able to bridge that, and you'll be able to use your body like you normally would.
This is like the old.
jordan jensen
That's gonna piss me off if this comes out after because my paralyzed friends passed away.
I hate that when this stuff comes out.
I'm like, God, you motherfucker.
joe rogan
It's always gonna happen that way.
jordan jensen
She was getting into stuff though.
She was getting into ear, ear, ear touch.
joe rogan
If you touch her ears, she'd get pumped.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
That was a thing.
She was getting into all that shit.
She had like a servant that would make art for her.
That was awesome.
So she kinda had it.
She kinda had her own little neural link of girls that she paid.
joe rogan
We're probably about five years away from an unrecognizable world.
jordan jensen
You think five years?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
What about structures?
joe rogan
I mean, it'll be recognizable in terms of buildings, but I think like the way the world interfaces, the way we interface with the world's gonna be very different.
jordan jensen
You think it's like walk into a space and it'll be like, Welcome, Jordan Jensen.
We have Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, probably weirder than that.
Because there probably won't be people working there.
jordan jensen
Bro, the Waymo is sick.
unidentified
You like it?
jordan jensen
I thought I was so against it.
I got in it.
Not having to talk to some fucker, being able to fart at will.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
Just but here's what I'm wondering.
Why don't people go take me to an hour place away and just fuck in it?
It's gotta be cheaper than a hotel.
joe rogan
I bet people do.
jordan jensen
Gross.
jamie vernon
This won't go on the freeway yet, but people are definitely doing all that stuff.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
They're probably fucking it's gotta be cameras filming people fucking.
Yeah, they're like, let's go.
Put on a fucking Nixon mask and fuck.
Let's go.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
But I really like them.
joe rogan
Well, it's certainly probably safer.
You know, they don't really get in that many accidents.
If they do, it's usually somebody else's fault, not the Waymo's fault.
jordan jensen
I'm sick of looking at plane pilots and being like, that's he's he's gonna be mad.
This is gonna be man.
LA, I had one that was so caked up, his ass was so amazing.
It was the worst flight of my life.
I was like, Yeah, we can't have these LA beautiful barbies.
He was like a perfect Kendo, and I was like, this is crazy.
joe rogan
They're gonna be replaced.
Great replaced with AI.
AI's gonna fly all the planes.
jordan jensen
I would love that.
I hate the idea of these guys getting sleepies.
unidentified
Really?
jordan jensen
I hate that.
No, that's a big part of plane crashes.
joe rogan
How about they have strokes?
They got that fifth booster and they fucking stroke out while they're does that happen?
unidentified
Oh yeah.
jordan jensen
No.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, yeah.
People are stroked out while they're flying.
jordan jensen
I'm not religious, but I the private plane thing freaks me out because I'm worried that if God were to smite one of the planes, he'd be like, Yeah, the comic who thinks they're hot shit with a private jet.
unidentified
Dead.
jordan jensen
You're dead.
That one has kids in it.
joe rogan
That's what God's gonna do.
Not terrorists.
jordan jensen
No, yeah, not terrorists.
joe rogan
No, I just smite the comic with a big ego.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's funny.
The people that take the photos in front of the private jet, they're the ones that gonna get smitten.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You post it right before you get on the plate.
jordan jensen
I worry about that.
A hundred percent.
You're going down, dude.
joe rogan
Expensive.
jordan jensen
I'll look at a plane that I'm on it.
See if there's kids, I'm like, oh, we're safe.
We're safe.
God's not gonna kill these kids.
joe rogan
That's funny.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
Um thank you.
Thanks for being here.
It's a lot of fun.
jordan jensen
Watch my special.
joe rogan
It's uh available right now on Netflix.
What's it called?
jordan jensen
Today it came out today.
joe rogan
Today.
jordan jensen
Take me with you.
joe rogan
Take me with you.
All right.
unidentified
Fuck you.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Thanks for having me.
unidentified
My pleasure.
joe rogan
I'll see you tonight.
unidentified
What else are fun?
jordan jensen
Hell yeah.
unidentified
All right.
Bye, everybody.
Thank you.
Thank you.
joe rogan
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