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Joe Rogan Experience #2380 - Jordan Jensen
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unidentified
The Joe Rogan experience.
Train my day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
Hello.
joe rogan
What's up?
jordan jensen
Oh, good.
I got my legal pad here.
joe rogan
Yeah, in case you need to write notes.
jordan jensen
I'm going to take notes on what you're doing right and wrong.
And I'll give them to you at the end.
joe rogan
Tell me.
jordan jensen
Okay.
joe rogan
So I can figure out what the wrong stuff is.
Stop doing it.
jordan jensen
I want to fuck with all this stuff.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
There's so much shit.
People keep giving me new shit.
jordan jensen
I know.
I brought a little tiny figurine of a little thing on stage one time.
And every single meet and greet, people give me these little tiny animals.
So now I have this giant collection of them.
And I'm like, I don't like these that much.
joe rogan
That's the problem.
It's like everybody knows that I keep a bunch of shit on this desk so people give me shit to put on this desk.
And now it's getting kind of crazy.
Like where I'm going to have to have a shelf.
jordan jensen
I had to get a shelf.
I got one of those old typewriter keyboard things.
joe rogan
Look, I have like mammoth teeth.
This is a piece of art that was cut out of a woolly mammoth tooth.
Oh, that's a don't blow it.
jordan jensen
I won't.
I got one of these.
A Mayan Death.
Callan blew it.
joe rogan
Yeah, Brian Aztec, Aztec death whistle.
Brian Callan blew one right before COVID hit.
I'm not saying he caused it.
jordan jensen
Oh.
joe rogan
But there's a lot of videos saying he caused it.
jordan jensen
I get it.
I get it.
That would be a death whistle.
joe rogan
I think it was technically.
I think when he blew it, it had already caught on in China.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Unless we're in a simulation.
jordan jensen
You're the COVID guy.
I was listening to your podcast with what's the woman who got falsely accused?
joe rogan
Of what?
jordan jensen
Of murdering her roommate.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan jensen
I was listening to that one, and I like fast-forwarded it one moment, and it went from her being like, and then I was in prison for four years to you being like, well, the bat's been COVID.
unidentified
And I was like, how do we get here?
joe rogan
Yeah, that was a fascinating podcast.
Amanda Knox.
She's got a Netflix series out right now where someone plays her, which has got to be super fucking weird.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like someone else plays her in like a dramatization of her getting wrongly accused at 20 years old of a murder where they had all this evidence that this guy who broke into the house fucking murdered her.
His like DNA was there and they ignored it because they didn't want to admit that they were wrong.
unidentified
It's on a Hulu.
joe rogan
Hulu.
Sorry.
jordan jensen
I don't really get how that happens.
joe rogan
Because cops are cunts.
jordan jensen
Right, but just like peanuts.
You cannot see sperm everywhere.
Oh, no.
The guy was like, I fucked her.
joe rogan
No, I don't know what he said.
I don't know what happened, but I know that they started, they had a narrative.
jordan jensen
Oh, that he was in on it.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
They had a narrative that she did it, that she caused the murder.
jordan jensen
Right.
joe rogan
The guy started with that and he stuck with it.
And even when there was evidence, it showed that there was a guy in there and then the guy did it and then the window was broken and somebody broke out of the house.
jordan jensen
And then eventually he came forward and was like, this has nothing to do with her, the guy who did do it.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think he eventually ever did anything.
No, like she actually had a meeting with him, which is crazy.
Like after the fact, like forgave him.
But she's a white girl.
She got tried twice.
Twice.
jordan jensen
I know.
The Supreme Court.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
She got acquitted.
Like, she got released, right?
And then they retried her in absentia.
So she was in America while they were trying her in Italy again.
jordan jensen
And then they said she's fine.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which is fucking crazy.
Like, why is she in prison?
Give her some fucking money.
jordan jensen
Also, the guy Rafaela was in solitary for six months.
I can't fathom that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
The six months in solitude is so crazy to me.
One day in solitude and I'm done.
joe rogan
Well, I talked to a guy that had been in solitary for years.
jordan jensen
What does that mean?
Like you shit and piss in there?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, you get no contact.
unidentified
No contact.
jordan jensen
It must be scrambly after that.
joe rogan
100%.
jordan jensen
I feel like they, yeah, it's got to do some sort of weird brain damage thing where they come out.
joe rogan
Well, this guy Shaka that we have on the podcast, he's great.
jordan jensen
Was he normal?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, beyond.
Like, super smart.
He wrote in there, educated himself in there, too.
jordan jensen
Oh, you can read.
joe rogan
Wrote books.
jordan jensen
You can read in there.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can read.
unidentified
That's good.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, they don't just give you nothing.
But you do go crazy.
You go crazy.
Human beings need human contact.
jordan jensen
Well, it's like when you don't do anything all day and then you get right up on stage.
Have you ever done that?
Where you don't talk to anybody and you feel insane?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
The worst, the first conversation of the day.
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's why I always bring friends on the road.
You don't want to be like that weirdo in the hotel room by yourself.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
And then you take a nap and the sun goes down while you're napping.
That's the worst feeling.
unidentified
That.
jordan jensen
When I do that, it feels like I'm haunting the audience.
Like I'm like, you guys are in a different reality and I'm intruding on where you're at.
joe rogan
The weird one is when you wake up and you don't know what city you're in.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but that's why I got the dog.
I was so sick of that feeling.
I was so sick of waking up and being like, I've been abducted.
Where am I?
This place is nicer than my apartment, so that's good.
But where am I?
And then I saw my dog and I was like, oh, we're all right.
joe rogan
That's not the only reason why you got your dog.
jordan jensen
Yeah, and she rolls.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
And she's awesome.
joe rogan
She's really sweet.
jordan jensen
She's very cool.
joe rogan
She's so cute.
How long have you had her?
jordan jensen
Two years.
joe rogan
Oh, that's awesome.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Was she full grown when you got her?
jordan jensen
Tiny.
Because I wanted to adopt the mom.
Oh, but they were like, hey, the mom just had all this.
We didn't know she was pregnant.
She just had a litter of puppies.
Will you take one of these?
And I was like, okay.
And I had no idea how hard it is to have a puppy.
joe rogan
I've had dogs where you adopt them full grown and it was great.
I had this dog named Lucy.
She was awesome.
She was so sweet.
And then I had another dog named Squeaky From that was a real nightmare.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
She was a real, maybe it was because I named her Squeaky From after one of the Manson family members.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah, that'll happen.
joe rogan
She had a squeaky voice.
She like, she had been barking so much in the pound that when I got her out of the pound, like her voice was like, and then eventually it got normal again because she didn't have to bark 24 hours a day.
She just had worn out, she had worn out vocal cords.
She had a totally normal bark, but I was like, oh my God, her bark is like a squeak.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was like that.
jordan jensen
That's awesome.
joe rogan
Like, she was hoarse.
jordan jensen
Yeah, you don't know what you're going to get.
I mean, when I got a rescue, I was like, I'm going to get a small rescue.
So I hope it'll be fine.
But it was such a gamble.
Everybody's like, do not do this.
joe rogan
Yeah, we had a Doberman once that was a rescue that we had to get rid of.
He had distemper and he got really crazy.
Like in that, like growling at us and barking at us out of nowhere.
And I was a little kid.
jordan jensen
Oh, you really?
joe rogan
I was like, yo, we got rid of him.
jordan jensen
We had a dog that ate the foot off of my, we had a pit bull that was a rescue, and my mom had this like woman move in with us who she was dating and her kids moved in too.
And my pit bull ate the foot off of the wife's cat.
unidentified
Oh my God.
jordan jensen
The woman's cat.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
jordan jensen
And the woman was like, hey, you got to like choose between me or this pit bull.
My mom was like, yeah, get your cripple cat out of here.
And we kept our dog.
She didn't give a fuck.
She was so attached to that dog.
That dog, the amount of times would just like kill it.
My friend was in the backyard.
The dog kills a cat.
And my friend's freaking out.
She's like, we have to find the owner.
And my mom was like, you will stay quiet.
It was crazy.
unidentified
It was nuts.
jordan jensen
She was obsessed with that dog.
That's the only time I've seen her like really cry is when a dog dies.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's hard.
They don't live long enough.
jordan jensen
I can't.
joe rogan
They're your best friends.
Yeah.
I have a dog named Marshall.
He's Golden Retriever.
He's the best.
And he's nine now.
He'll be nine in a couple of months.
And it's just like, oh, no.
I've had him since he was a baby.
Now he's nine.
I'm like, he's only got a few years left.
And he's so active.
He's super healthy.
Eats great.
He's fit.
jordan jensen
Is he the retriever?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
The small dogs live for.
They get to be like 12, and that's kind of it.
unidentified
13, maybe 14, and then they're really hurting.
jordan jensen
It's fucked.
joe rogan
It's fucked.
Apparently, there's a drug that they've developed for dogs, like a longevity drug.
I don't know if they've released it yet, but I know that it shows promise and extend dogs'lifetime.
jordan jensen
Whitney Cummings the other day said that her friend's soul dog died the other day.
And she said, when the dog dies, you learn something about yourself that's very important.
So I've been holding on to that kind of woo-woo thing.
She's like, you kind of show up for yourself in a way you need to.
joe rogan
I don't know if I'd listen to Whitney.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
She does.
unidentified
She gets a little woo-woo.
jordan jensen
I like how Whitney has something to say about everything, though.
joe rogan
Rapamycin.
jordan jensen
Rapam on ice.
Take them off.
joe rogan
I've heard of rapamycin before because rapamycin is something that Peter Atiyah is a big proponent of for longevity.
jordan jensen
The guy who wants to live forever?
joe rogan
No, no, that's Brian Johnson.
Another study at Texas A&M University showed rapamycin could extend the lifespan of older dogs by up to 20%.
Generally well tolerated.
However, it can cause side effects such as lethargy, lack of appetite.
Oh boy.
jordan jensen
No, you can't.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Is that it?
Because I think there was something else.
It was like a gene therapy.
jordan jensen
What happened to the cloning thing?
What happened to CRISPR?
joe rogan
They probably already made clones.
jordan jensen
But why did we not hear about that?
Weren't they cloning sheep and shit?
joe rogan
Yep.
jordan jensen
And then we just stopped hearing about it?
joe rogan
Yeah, they probably made a bunch of people already.
unidentified
Yeah.
What if they're not?
joe rogan
People telling you about clones are probably clones.
jordan jensen
You ever see a person that looks exactly like another person and then you ask them their name and it's the same name?
And you're like, no fucking way.
joe rogan
You know the story about those two baseball players?
jordan jensen
No.
joe rogan
Oh, it's the nuttiest shit of all time.
These two baseball players look exactly the same, have the exact same name and never met each other and they both play baseball.
jordan jensen
Let me see them.
joe rogan
Oh, it's bananas.
These two guys.
jordan jensen
Oh my God.
jamie vernon
Yeah, like what?
joe rogan
What in the fuck?
jamie vernon
Different parents.
jordan jensen
Why are they wearing the same classes?
joe rogan
And their name is Brady Feigel, right?
So it's not even like a normal name.
jamie vernon
Yeah, and they both got the same injury.
That's how they found out they were going to the same doctor.
joe rogan
Just imagine your name is Brady Feigel and you meet another guy who's also Brady Feigel.
You're both six foot four.
You both have red hair.
jordan jensen
They're both really tall.
joe rogan
You both have black glasses.
You both have the fucking same crazy name.
That name is nuts.
jordan jensen
Maryland and Missouri is not far enough away.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
unidentified
That's crazy.
jamie vernon
I think they also, once they found this out, they didn't immediately go meet each other.
They waited like two or three years, maybe, I think.
joe rogan
Oh, if the guy played baseball and I played baseball, I'd be like, bro, we got to hang out and freak people out.
jamie vernon
They're different ages.
I thought they were the same age.
unidentified
Oh, how old?
joe rogan
32 and 27.
Interesting.
The first guy must be really pissed.
This motherfucker's stealing my shine.
jordan jensen
That's bizarre.
Yeah, but I just remember hearing so much about cloning.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
And then it just stopped.
joe rogan
Well, they do with dogs.
They do with people's pets.
Like, if you want to get your pet cloned, you can get your pet cloned.
That's a real thing.
unidentified
But what do you do?
joe rogan
I think it costs $30,000.
jordan jensen
But then they're cloned at the same age.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
They're a puppy.
jordan jensen
Nice.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You get to start from scratch.
Yeah, otherwise you'd have like an 11-year-old.
You keep like, bring him back.
jordan jensen
That'd be so mean.
That'd be so mean.
joe rogan
He's got arthritis.
He's diarrhea.
unidentified
Please let me die for the love of God.
You waited too long to clone him.
jordan jensen
Dude, bring it back as a puppy, though.
We could do that.
joe rogan
Did you see that movie with Demi Moore called The Substance?
jordan jensen
Okay, I Fainted in the Theater.
joe rogan
Bro.
jordan jensen
I fainted so hard.
joe rogan
Bro, that movie is nuts.
jordan jensen
It's nuts.
I'm actually very pro that movie.
Like, I love the narrative.
joe rogan
Oh, it was great.
jordan jensen
I love the idea of that when you get all that face shit, you're just keeping an old person alive.
I've tried to describe that on stage so much where I'm like, doesn't it bother you that when people are like, you look good for your age, you're just like hide it, like you're concealing your death there?
You know what I mean?
unidentified
Right, right, right.
jordan jensen
And that movie portrayed that perfectly, where it's just a fucking...
joe rogan
It's kind of ironic that Demi Moore, who looks insanely good at 62, played that lady.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, because like.
jordan jensen
But I liked that because it showed like even when you saw her weird old lady butt, you were like, that's Demi Moore's nice butt, but I'm still like in awe of the young girl's butt, which is unacceptable.
joe rogan
It's unacceptable.
jordan jensen
You know what I mean?
Like when she was doing the whole dance and you're like, why is this so intense?
And you're like, because it's a young person.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
I think that...
Did that director do...
No, that director didn't do Raw.
But it was a female director.
joe rogan
I don't know what else this director did, but that movie was awesome.
jordan jensen
I hit the deck, though.
I tried, I faint so easily.
joe rogan
Do you really?
jordan jensen
Dude, I just blood and stuff.
I faint, and I muscled through the gory part, and I was like, I'm fucking good.
Like, I can't, I've cured it.
And then the music, it's like when a movie starts going like, oh, like that, like on both sides.
I'm like a goat, dude.
I got to the bathroom and I passed out.
I'm in New York, just on the ground, fainting.
People are walking over my body.
They're like a homeless person.
That's hilarious.
joe rogan
That's so funny.
I used to date a girl that when if someone got a needle on the screen, she'd faint.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just like, it didn't matter where she was.
unidentified
If someone got injected, I'm like, it's so bad.
jordan jensen
Her dad had it.
My dad has it.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Her dad was a dentist, which is crazy.
jordan jensen
The dentist makes me faint.
joe rogan
When the kid, one of their, her brother, got like crazy sunburn, like really bad, where he got blisters.
The dad saw it and just fucking fainted.
jordan jensen
Dude, it's crazy.
My sister called my dad once and she was working on cadavers and she was like, I'm so interested in this.
We cut into a cadaver today and she just heard thump on the other line and she's like, dad, dad.
Oh my God.
He was done, dude.
He's fainted so many times.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
From a phone call.
jordan jensen
From a phone call.
unidentified
That's so wild.
jordan jensen
He couldn't be in our berths or anything.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
That's crazy.
What is that?
jordan jensen
It's called vasovagal.
joe rogan
Okay, but is that a psychological thing?
Because it's obviously like your reaction to a thing.
Like, I wonder if you can temper that somehow.
jordan jensen
Here's the problem with it: why I don't, I used to think it was psychological.
Like, me and my dad pictured things too well.
Like, we pictured it, the needle going in.
But vasovagal, like, sometimes I'll be putting an earring in.
unidentified
You just faint.
Yeah.
Like, everywhere so you don't bounce your head off the fucking linoleum.
jordan jensen
It's so fucked up.
So I think it is neurological.
joe rogan
Well, I bet, but also triggered by high states of anxiety, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
So that's what you would be able to control.
You wouldn't be able to control the fact that you do faint when you have a high level of anxiety.
So vasovagal response, sudden overreaction of the body's autonomic nervous system to a trigger such as pain or emotional stress or music that causes a temporary drop in heart rate and blood pressure.
jordan jensen
There's a whole part of my special where I talk about me and this guy who was also a fainter having sex.
unidentified
Oh my God.
joe rogan
And you both fainted?
unidentified
A lot.
joe rogan
Nice.
unidentified
Yeah.
It's hot.
Yeah.
It was rough.
jordan jensen
It was rough.
Because when you faint, it comes with sweating and seeing white, like it's brutal.
joe rogan
And you probably hope the man doesn't faint.
He can keep it together.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That would be like a nice thing.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
Like a nice train.
He could faint on command.
He could think his only faint.
joe rogan
Oh, that's hilarious.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
I wonder what would happen if a guy like that had got drafted in Vietnam.
jordan jensen
Done.
Faint.
That would have gotten out.
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's it.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
My dad had a heart attack once and fainted.
joe rogan
All night on one.
jordan jensen
And I saw him in the hospital.
I was like, what happened?
The heart attack fucked up your face.
And he's like, I fainted on a fence.
And I was like, that's crazy.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
jordan jensen
Yeah, he fainted so much.
And he was a contractor, so he would always have cuts and stuff and be like, no, be out.
It was crazy.
joe rogan
That's nuts.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
He jigsawed through his nose one time.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because he fainted?
jordan jensen
No, but then he fainted.
unidentified
He like pulled the cord and then it cut through his nose and then he faints.
jordan jensen
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
Oh my God.
I would wear a helmet everywhere if I was that dude.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
I just wear a football helmet.
Just like I'm a fan.
jordan jensen
That's what we have to worry about all the time.
Like if I cut myself, it's not about the cut.
Like the stitches are not.
It's that I'm about to hit the deck.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
jordan jensen
It's so fucked up.
joe rogan
Have you ever fainted right before you went on stage?
Because I would think that's like a heightened state of anxiety a little bit, especially in the early days.
jordan jensen
I've panicked.
Well, another problem is I get when I panic when I have really bad intrusive thoughts.
Like I was around a famous person recently and I was convinced I was going to bite her.
I started getting a full panic, which makes you want to faint.
But it's a different thing.
But both lead to fainting.
joe rogan
I knew a dude who was a warm-up guy.
You know, he'd just do warm-up and he had a real problem with anxiety.
He just would freak out.
And he was a comic and just, it never worked out for him because his anxiety would just overwhelm him.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And one time he was warming up for the Cosby show and he got this idea in his head that he was going to say the N-word.
jordan jensen
Of course.
joe rogan
And he's like, don't say it.
jordan jensen
Of course.
joe rogan
Don't say it.
jordan jensen
Oh, The Cosby Show.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he's warming up for the Cosby show.
So he's, you know, basically in the crowd warming up.
Okay, so here in the next scene, Dr. Huxtable is going to come in.
And all his mind is telling him is, don't say the N-word.
He's not going to say it.
He was never going to say it.
But for whatever reason, he was overwhelmed by this fear of saying the N-word in this very prevalent black audience.
And he completely had a meltdown while he was doing warm-up.
jordan jensen
Or he was panicking.
Full panic.
With my special tape ping, I thought I was going to hit somebody with a stool.
Mine is violence.
I think I'm going to bite.
I think I'm going to, yeah, totally.
Or on airplanes, I'm worried I'm going to pull the exit thing off all the time.
Mine is very violent, or the person next to me, I'm going to bite down on.
joe rogan
That's probably a better response than like shrieking and falling to the ground.
jordan jensen
I know, but I was the famous woman.
I was like, I don't want to be the biter.
joe rogan
But you wouldn't bite her.
jordan jensen
And then I know, but I thought, but I had so long to obsess about it.
joe rogan
Can you tell me who it is?
jordan jensen
It was Laura Dern.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
You thought you were going to bite Laura Dern?
Isn't she an admiral in Star Wars?
jordan jensen
I love her so much.
But she was being so nice to me and we were sitting next to each other for so long.
And I was like, what if I just bit Laura Dern?
And my brain was like, you're not.
And I was like, but this might be the time that you do the thing.
One time I was on a chairlift and I was like, what if you jumped off?
And I obsessed so long that I just jumped off.
unidentified
Whoa.
jordan jensen
I was fine.
I landed and was fine.
But I still was like, I did the thing.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
jordan jensen
So since then, I've been like, How far was the jump?
Not far.
joe rogan
Okay.
jordan jensen
That's the other thing I have to remember: I waited for the snow to come up and meet the chairlift way closer and then jump.
So I'm like, you want to.
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're not crazy.
jordan jensen
You're not crazy.
joe rogan
Just like a little thrill.
Just a little bitty thrill.
jordan jensen
Totally.
Like waiting or dirty.
joe rogan
about biting she was so nice so hollywood you know i could really her skin was hollywood just so pure so nice interesting i got bug bites all over i accidentally sat next to daryl hanna once at canter's deli in the 90s okay and uh they were doing some game they were playing some game her and her friends were playing some game with like states like figure out like what you know what's the keystone state like that kind of yeah And I was helping her.
But she was totally normal.
Like it was, we never acknowledged that she's Daryl Hanna at Cantor's Deli.
jordan jensen
Playing a game.
joe rogan
She's just like super chill.
jordan jensen
That's so nice.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Her and her friends are having a sandwich, just laughing and doing some game about states.
jordan jensen
They're normal as hell.
Matt Damon was at the cellar recently, and I couldn't, I was so fucked up at how.
I don't know how it was fucking me up so much.
I do too many.
I microdose too many micros, but I was like, his arms and hands are so Matt Damon's arms and hands.
Like I knew them so well and he was like gesticulating and I was like, I fucking know those freaking arms.
It was crazy.
From movies, yeah, like just moving.
It's weird to know somebody so well and never have spoken to them.
It's disturbing.
joe rogan
That is odd.
unidentified
Yeah.
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joe rogan
I met Matt Damon in Italy at a restaurant where he was sitting underneath a photo of himself.
That's weird.
jordan jensen
Did he choose to sit there?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
The restaurant owner had him there before.
It was a nice table, and there's photos all over the wall of celebrities that had been there before.
And so Matt Damon went and sat down at the table where the photo of this owner, you know, taking a picture with Matt Damon is.
jordan jensen
That's some meta shit.
That's crazy.
He seems really sweet.
joe rogan
He's a very nice guy.
Super normal guy.
There's a lot of them that are like super normal.
jordan jensen
The funny shit.
joe rogan
But she used to always hold this thing.
Like, I doubt fucking crazy people.
There's always like a thing in your head.
You're like, they got to be out of their fucking mind.
jordan jensen
Totally.
Yeah.
What's the guy's Peter Dinklage?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, I am.
jordan jensen
Came into the cellar and threw a chicken wing at my friend's chest, just like out of nowhere.
Somebody introduced him, like Gillis or somebody.
Maybe it was Schultz who was like, oh, this is so-and-so.
He's a good comic.
And he threw a chicken wing at him.
And I was like, that's the most Peter Dinklage, like just basically being a little Renaissance man throwing like his size turkey leg is crazy.
It's crazy.
A little renaissance.
Like you just being like, oh, wait, Jessica.
I was like, that's too on the nose.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Problem is, I knew him first from ELF.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You know, so even though he's the Game of Thrones guy, to me, he's always the angry writer from ELF.
jordan jensen
I know him from the guy Four Weddings and a Funeral or Wedding at a Funeral.
joe rogan
I never saw that.
I heard it was really good.
jordan jensen
It's really good.
joe rogan
I heard it's really good.
I never saw it.
jordan jensen
Crazy funny.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That guy's great.
He was so good in Game of Thrones.
It was so good.
That's a complicated role.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Complicated.
That fucking show was so good.
The new one, I'm trying to get into it, but like every season is like five years apart from the last one.
You have to figure out who is who is this lady?
jordan jensen
Game of Thrones won.
I had to, I was like asking a thousand people.
I was like, I don't understand which place is which.
I had to like map it out.
I could not figure it out, but it's so good.
It opened up with the brother and sister.
joe rogan
Fucking.
jordan jensen
That was so sick.
joe rogan
I was making a triple over the other brother.
jordan jensen
Yeah, it was crazy.
joe rogan
Nuts.
jordan jensen
And just full-on rape.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
And the Daenerys girl.
joe rogan
They cut the fucking head off the king.
You're like, no.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
He's crazy.
He's the best.
He's the best.
joe rogan
He's the king.
jordan jensen
They did a great job.
joe rogan
Oh, that fucking show ruled.
It was such a good show.
Such the season one was, I mean, I mean, not season one, the real Game of Thrones.
The new ones, like, yeah, it's good.
But, you know, you're always you're Jay Leno after Johnny Carson.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
It's like totally.
unidentified
You get attached to the thing.
joe rogan
You're just like, oh.
jordan jensen
I didn't, I don't remember the last season.
Oh, the last season was weird where Cersei rules.
joe rogan
I was in Croatia, and there's the place where they, where King's Landing is.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, that's where they filmed it.
jordan jensen
Oh, that's awesome.
joe rogan
And they sort of do tours where they show you, where they film certain scenes.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And one of the scenes is when she was like, shame, shame.
She's walking along.
jordan jensen
The little cobblestone.
joe rogan
That's pretty.
That's right there.
Yeah.
You could actually see it.
jordan jensen
That's really cool.
joe rogan
It's pretty cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They filmed a lot of people.
jordan jensen
We still do those shame things on Twitter.
We do the shame.
Shame.
I just went through a horrible Twitter thing last night.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
jordan jensen
Dude, I got dragged.
unidentified
You can't read that.
jordan jensen
Dude, it was a fan hit me up and goes, don't go on Twitter.
And I went on Twitter and it was so, this crazy, out-of-context thing where I was like talking.
I was on Stav's podcast and I was talking about how I was talking about this guy who used the word, I'm not going to say it, T-R-A.
I don't know how to spell it.
N-N-Y?
unidentified
Okay.
jordan jensen
He used that word.
And I was being like, that word is so fucking antiquated that at this point to me, it sounds like somebody's just calling like a drag queen that.
And everybody took it as me saying that trans people are in drag.
unidentified
Oh, God.
jordan jensen
And it, like, dude, it was just like went at me.
And like, the crazy thing is, I thought I was being woke on that podcast.
I had like friends of mine being like fucked ordered.
Like, it was crazy.
Friends of yours.
I mean, friendly people, like people I work with.
joe rogan
Yeah, those people can go eat shit.
Those pylon people, they can all go eat shit.
jordan jensen
But that was my like first big one.
I've had one before, but that was like.
joe rogan
That kind of shit pushes people away from all the things you're trying to promote.
Like it does, it doesn't mean that people hate trans people if they say something like that.
That's not what you're saying.
jordan jensen
I was saying the opposite.
I was being like, this guy was such an asshole for using that word.
Also, that word is so corny that I feel like at this point, it's not even referenced to transgender people, that it's like what we say for drag.
joe rogan
Some people still use it.
jordan jensen
Totally.
joe rogan
But it's, that's not the point.
The point is, it's like, what are you trying to do?
You're not trying to hurt anybody's feelings.
So shut the fuck up.
Everybody's just looking for a reason to be offended.
It's just trying to find anything that they can like, green light, go.
jordan jensen
It's no reason.
joe rogan
No nuance.
Yeah, of course.
jordan jensen
It's so crazy.
Of course.
It was so, and I'm just like reading all of them.
And I was like, this is so many people that are just like, this dumb bitch.
One of them said, this is a fat retard talking to a skinny retard about me and me and stuff.
And I was like, oh, well, that's actually really sweet.
That's really nice.
You're skinny.
I love being skinny.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, this is just what's going on online.
And most of the people that are on the screen.
Oh, no, I don't have Twitter.
Oh, good.
jordan jensen
I don't have Twitter.
I deleted it because I kept looking at my ex's tweets.
And then I was like, I'm deleting this for sobriety, you know.
And then I went on it the other day and I was like, this is a nightmare, dude.
It was crazy.
And I hit up those people who tweeted and I was like, hey, why wouldn't you just text me, man?
Like, I care about you.
You care about me.
And this was totally out of context.
If you had just asked me about it, I would have showed you the whole clip, you know?
And they were like, you're right.
That was crazy.
joe rogan
It's a mental illness factory.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Twitter is just a giant cunt farm.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
It just, everybody just is growing cunty thoughts.
jordan jensen
I just didn't know.
I just am not even in there.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not good.
I don't, I stay off it as much as humanly possible.
I try to get on it in the morning, just see what everybody's upset about, see what's in the news.
Like a UFO got shot with a Hellfire missile, and they have footage today.
And rep Luna, yeah, they were talking about it in hearings today.
There's a video of a.
Yes.
There's a video of a UFO getting hit by a Hellfire missile and the Hellfire missile just blows apart and the UFO just keeps moving.
jordan jensen
What was the UFO?
What did it look like?
joe rogan
Like a dot on a screen where they always look.
They look like shit.
jordan jensen
I saw something weird coming down from the moon the other day.
Do not know what it was.
joe rogan
Look at this.
So watch this.
So here's the UFO.
There's the missile.
Watch this happens.
Does it, it just knocks it around and then the thing just gets right back on track, which is bananas.
Like anything that gets hit by a hellfire missile usually gets fucking obliterated, especially something that's literally the size of the missile.
jordan jensen
It's cruising.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's flying.
I mean, not fast enough that it could duck a missile, which is kind of weird that it let itself get hit.
jamie vernon
It's hard to see what happens.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
Like, what is that little?
joe rogan
Right, it's animation.
unidentified
Where is that?
joe rogan
It's fucking Pong.
We're looking at Pong.
You know?
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like an old video game, a really shitty video game.
This is why I have the hardest time getting excited about any of this stuff.
It's like, I don't know what I just saw.
You're telling me I saw a Hellfire missile hit a UFO.
It's like, you know, you're reading Morse code to me.
I don't know.
jordan jensen
Well, AI has done that too, where now it's like, I can't even go on Instagram.
It's not even fun anymore because I don't know what's real or not.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, we get caught all the time.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there's always something.
There's always something that you think is really like Tim Walsh with the fuck Trump shirt on dancing on the elevator.
James is like, it's fake.
I'm like, no, no, no, it's real.
jordan jensen
I'm like, I'm just past the age bracket where I can't detect it.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Well, no one can detect it anymore because especially what looks like cell phone footage because cell phone footage is kind of shitty already.
So they just make it kind of shitty.
And you don't know.
You don't know what the fuck you're looking at.
jordan jensen
My mom liked the photo on Facebook that a fake AI photo of me on the beach, different tattoos with a man, and she liked it.
I'm like, mom, what are you doing?
Who do you think that guy is?
You know that I'm single.
She's like, you look beautiful in it.
I'm like, it's not real.
That's not my body.
unidentified
That's not the body you gave birth to.
joe rogan
Boomers can't handle it.
jordan jensen
No.
joe rogan
They're so removed from this technology that they're living in an alternative dimension.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
I don't know what she does on the show.
joe rogan
They get their news on TV, and that's a wrap.
unidentified
Whatever the guy says in front of the camera.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
My mom is my news source, which is nice.
I didn't know the Epstein drawing had come out.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
So the drawing is a draw.
Was that the same as the one that had been leaked before?
Is it different?
jamie vernon
I'm pretty sure that leaked one was someone took the description, put it in AI.
joe rogan
This is the actual drawing.
jamie vernon
Yeah, and that's when they actually got the book and someone leaked it.
I'm going to grab it.
jordan jensen
The drawing, I did think when I imagined it that it was going to be like a weld.
I was imagining like DiCaprio drawing a French girl.
When I saw that one, I was like, Trump, at least make her hot.
unidentified
What are you doing?
jordan jensen
But what was the transcript he had written out?
unidentified
He had it like.
jordan jensen
What does voiceover mean?
jamie vernon
It's like a script.
joe rogan
It says, there must be more to life than having everything.
Donald, yes, there is.
So he wrote this?
Supposedly.
It says voiceover.
Like he's like a movie star.
Like he's in a script.
Donald, yes, there is, but I won't tell you what it is.
Jeffrey, nor will I, since I also know what it is.
Who fucking talks like this?
Donald, we have certain things in common, Jeffrey.
Jeffrey, yes, we do.
Come to think of it.
Donald, enigmas never age.
Have you noticed that?
Jeffrey, as a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
A pal is a wonderful thing.
Happy birthday may every day be another wonderful secret.
unidentified
Ooh.
joe rogan
And then I like how he's got the signature right where the bush is.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
I don't think that he meant for that, though.
unidentified
Oh, God.
jordan jensen
He made it sound like he meant for that.
joe rogan
I think he did.
jordan jensen
I think he just signed it.
joe rogan
Maybe.
jordan jensen
But I was imagining that.
joe rogan
But it's kind of ironic that it's right with a vagina.
jordan jensen
But I don't think that's a good thing.
joe rogan
I don't think Trump likes a hairy picture into.
That's a dude.
Okay, that's a dude with womanly hips.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at the boobs.
jamie vernon
They're weird.
It could be a back.
joe rogan
Yeah, it could be anything.
It could be a snail's smile.
jordan jensen
I don't get why he's writing a script.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's very odd stuff.
jordan jensen
It's quite strange.
joe rogan
But it's also like the way, like, enigmas never age.
Have you noticed that?
And Jeffrey, as a matter of fact, it was clear to me the last time I saw you, like, if one of my friends sent me that, I'd be like, I'm getting a new number.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Happy number.
jordan jensen
Why didn't you just write happy birthday?
joe rogan
Yeah, what the fuck is wrong with you, Enigma?
jordan jensen
Happy birthday, Jeff.
That's all I want.
Happy birthday, Jeff.
May we hang out soon.
unidentified
Also, like, what year was this that he wrote this?
jamie vernon
I think it was for his 50th birthday was the word.
joe rogan
So I'll see what year it would have been.
unidentified
It wouldn't have been that long ago.
joe rogan
Well, it had to be because he kicked him out of Mar-a-Lago in like the 2000s, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I think 2011, I think, is when they said that was.
joe rogan
That's when they kicked him out?
jamie vernon
I think so.
joe rogan
I thought it was before that because I think that's when he got arrested.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I think that was related to that.
jordan jensen
They kicked Epstein out.
Can I touch this?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That is a recreation.
That's a 3D printed recreation of these very strange vases that they find in Egypt that are part of an older dynasty that are so exact.
And the way they did it is completely unknown.
That is just a piece of plastic, but that's an actual 3D recreation of the original vase.
jordan jensen
That you think aliens did.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
I think a very complex ancient civilization that was wiped out by some sort of a cataclysmic disaster that had very sophisticated technology because that was, was it diorite that that was carved out of?
jordan jensen
Are you an alien guy or are you an agnostic alien guy?
joe rogan
I'm on the fence.
jordan jensen
You're on the fence.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
You were alien guy?
joe rogan
I've been back and forth off the fence, on the fence.
I've been over the other side.
I go back and forth.
I think it's highly unlikely that we're alone.
Highly unlikely.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And there's just too many stories of people having encounters with something for people been writing these things down for thousands of years.
I haven't had any experience, though.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
I think it's like a relationship.
If you want it too bad, you won't get it.
joe rogan
Other than psychedelics.
Which makes me go.
jordan jensen
You've seen guys?
joe rogan
No, I've seen stuff.
I've seen entities.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, 100%.
I've had interactions with other beings.
jordan jensen
Tree entities or like space entities.
I've had tree entities.
joe rogan
Things that didn't have like a form that was solid, their form would change and morph and they had consciousness.
But, you know, it's like, what is what's really going on?
Like, are you really, are you imagining this?
Or are you tapping in?
What it feels like, but it might not be this.
What it feels like is you're tapping into another dimension and you're interacting with some disembodied souls, like disembodied consciousness that doesn't have a physical form.
That's what it feels like.
But it feels highly intelligent and very aware of what you're full of shit about, what you're not, like what your thoughts are, whether your thoughts are positive or negative.
Like it shows you negative thoughts and positive thoughts.
jordan jensen
Yeah, I was talking to Ari about that on his podcast about how like when I took acid, if I had a negative thought, all of the clouds would turn into skulls.
And if I had a positive thought, they'd all turn into these dancers and I could switch it.
I could just like switch and my entire visual would change with my mental.
joe rogan
I had a very similar experience once where when I had negative thoughts, everything would go like black and pixelated and dark.
And then I would have a positive, I would realize it, like, oh, no, no, no, no, you're doing this.
And then boom, it would blossom into these beautiful geometric patterns.
I was like, oh.
You're kind of in control of how you view things, which is in control of how your life works.
jordan jensen
That's the one thing that psychedelics wants you to get so hard.
That's like the biggest thing.
Every time I do it, it feels like it's making fun of me.
It's like, bro, this is all you.
Like, you have control.
joe rogan
Yes.
jordan jensen
You can have a bad life or a good life.
Make the fucking choice.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jordan jensen
And every time I do it, I'm like, okay, I'll remember.
unidentified
And then the next day I'm like, nah, somebody said I'm fat on Twitter.
jordan jensen
You know, it's crazy.
I just had this big revelation the other day where I was like, what if everything is all right?
Like I'm writing.
And then this Twitter thing happened and I'm like, I'm going to die.
Everybody's.
And I was like, oh, yeah.
Sometimes I feel like when you have those revelations, you get a little tested.
You ever feel like that?
Like, I'll be like, when I'm things, when I'm like, okay, you know, like I was, my head was so big about the Netflix coming out.
I dropped it at the creek yesterday, I do a new jokes set, bomb, just bomb the whole way through, sweating, sweating in front of these people.
They're like, they don't know who I am.
They're just like, what are you saying?
And I was like, just trying brand new weird stuff.
Because my ego is so big that I'm like, I don't even need to workshop this shit, bitch.
And I do it and they're just like, we don't understand you.
And I'm like, anyway, watch the special.
It's a lot better than that.
joe rogan
It is the most humbling thing to work on new stuff after you put out a special.
It's the most humbling.
Because you have no weapons.
unidentified
And you just were doing shows where you're like, bam, tight, ready.
jordan jensen
Totally.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Looking at the notepad and being like, what else?
Still nothing on there.
Yeah, it's crazy.
joe rogan
It's the hardest thing is like coming up with subjects.
jordan jensen
It's also hard when your brain is preoccupied with putting out a special, I've noticed.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
You know, like I'm like, I'm editing, I'm thinking about shit, promotion, and then I'm like, I have to, but that's why I think you have to take time.
joe rogan
100%.
jordan jensen
But the rush.
People are like, aren't you so proud of yourself?
And I'm like, no, because now I'm doing bad sets.
You know what I mean?
I don't have time to be proud because I'm going up on stage and being like, throw here something I was thinking, you know, and it never.
joe rogan
I think that's a good thing for us.
It's a good reality check.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
It's great.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like every couple of years, you got to get smacked in the face and start from scratch again.
jordan jensen
It's really good.
joe rogan
Brian Simpson did a brilliant thing.
So what Brian Simpson did is he developed two hours.
So he put out one hour and then when he went touring afterwards, he had another hour already.
jordan jensen
Well, I thought he asked Ari.
I thought he was like, can I put out both hours?
Can I put out all of it?
joe rogan
Don't do that.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think what he did was perfect.
jordan jensen
When I did the half hour, I had that.
I did it, put a half hour out and I was fucking cruising.
But this one, any fat that I had, I cut and was like, I hate, you're dead to me.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
So all of the stuff I liked, I put in it.
So then when I was touring, I was like, I've already decided that I hate that.
I can bring it back up, but I don't want to.
joe rogan
Right.
And then you feel like you're a fraud if you do.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And if you're not interested in the subject, like if you're like, it's dead to me, it's over.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You got to let it go.
jordan jensen
Totally.
It's crazy.
And it's hard to be on stage and talking about what I want to talk about, which is how crazy it is to be putting out a special.
You know what I mean?
But I don't want to do that because I want to do evergreen material.
joe rogan
Also, that's like, it's just not relatable.
jordan jensen
Not relatable.
But you're like, I want to tell you guys about this.
That's what's on my mind.
joe rogan
Especially the people that don't know who you are.
Then it's really not relatable.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Bill Burr was very inspiring because he put out that special about how he changed his mindset.
You know what I mean?
The most recent one where he was like, I'm not going to be an angry person anymore.
And that was sick because I feel like sometimes I'll be like, maybe I should have a perspective shift where I am stopping being such an angry person and against humanity.
And I'm like, no, but that's not funny.
So seeing Burr do that, I'm like, oh, I could have material about how like therapy helps, you know, instead of how my therapist sucks.
You know what I mean?
Like, and that was nice to see him do that, where he was like, I'm going to stop harassing my wife.
That was the whole special.
It was like, my wife is like going to die someday and I'm making her life quite bad.
It was great.
joe rogan
When I was young, I had this stupid idea in my mind that you should stray away from meditation or enlightenment or anything because it would get in the way of being funny.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
It would get in the way of chaos.
jordan jensen
I have that with relationships.
I'm like, I'm going to keep the tumultuous relationship and I'm just going to keep, like, that's how I thrive.
joe rogan
Mining for material?
jordan jensen
Mining for material.
Just keep myself in a state of like unknown constantly so that I feel like I'm alive.
Because I feel like I'll die if I have any comfort or stability.
My studio is the size of this table.
There's no reason I should live like that.
It's crazy.
There's no reason.
But I just keep myself in these little fucking house.
joe rogan
Do you like living in New York like that?
jordan jensen
I don't need to.
I can live in a bigger place in New York.
It's totally fine.
joe rogan
So you're doing it to yourself?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
I'm doing it to myself to be like, you have to struggle and you don't, don't, you don't even get to clean your tuna cans.
You have to leave.
It's crazy.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
At least you know it's crazy.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
And I'm working on it.
I am working on it.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
jordan jensen
I am working.
unidentified
Talking to a realtor?
jordan jensen
I'm talking to two therapists.
And yeah, that's the other thing is I'm like, I don't want to get a bigger place if I'm going to buy a place in New York.
Oh.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Because eventually you're going to buy a place.
jordan jensen
So I'm like, maybe just struggle.
joe rogan
But it's a weird time for the real estate market right now.
jordan jensen
I bought a house in Ithaca.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
jordan jensen
Upstate.
Yeah, upstate.
joe rogan
Oh, you're one of them people that gets the upstate house.
Well, it's go to visit.
jordan jensen
It's like five hours from New York.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
People are like, upstate.
And I'm like, no, it's like paintball upstate, dude.
joe rogan
So do you take a flight or you drive?
jordan jensen
There's a flight from JFK now.
joe rogan
And you go to Ithaca and what, just watch TV?
jordan jensen
I just, I mainly just work on the house and work on the, you know, just do shit to get it up and running.
I don't know what I'm going to do when it's done.
joe rogan
So you just like being in a small town?
jordan jensen
Well, my family's there.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
My niece is there.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
I was like, did you just pick Ithaca?
unidentified
No way.
jordan jensen
No way.
My whole family's there.
And I was so sick of going home and having to stay with my mom the whole time.
joe rogan
Oh, that's smart.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
She walked in on me having sex so many times.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan jensen
It's so annoying.
She's swinging open the door.
Oh, sorry.
That's her every single time.
joe rogan
That's right.
jordan jensen
Because she's deaf, so she can't hear shit.
unidentified
Oh, no.
jordan jensen
So she'll just swing it open.
unidentified
Out!
jordan jensen
Okay.
It's fucking crazy, dude.
And her house just has holes in it because she's a contractor, so she hasn't finished it.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
jordan jensen
So there's just like there'll be like a, she'll just be scurrying around and be like, there's a raccoon in here.
I'm like, what?
All the time, dude.
It's crazy.
There's a chipmunk on my laptop.
unidentified
I'm like, get it away.
jordan jensen
Bats coming in constantly.
joe rogan
Dad's fainting.
jordan jensen
Dad's dead now.
Dad finally fainted his last faint.
unidentified
Oh, no.
jordan jensen
It was good.
He worked all day, came home, died.
We were happy about it.
joe rogan
Really?
jordan jensen
I mean, we didn't want him to die, but yeah, he was like getting to a point where we were like, he's going to have to start going to the hospital because he smokes so many cigarettes and is so unhealthy.
And we're like, if he goes to the hospital, it's game over.
He can't be around.
He'll faint if he sees a hospital.
It's like, he like knew it was happening.
He was like, I'd rather die.
joe rogan
Did the cigarettes get him?
jordan jensen
Yeah, cigarettes and Dunkin' Donuts.
Love Dunkin' Donuts Doughnuts.
joe rogan
Both of those things.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Very addictive.
jordan jensen
Very addictive.
He was a heavy smoker.
That's why I want to kill Ian all the time.
joe rogan
Because he smokes so much?
unidentified
Yeah.
And he sounds like my dad with the where you laugh and you go, Ian seems like he really enjoys it, though.
jordan jensen
That's what everybody says until they're hacking up along and they have to leave a movie theater halfway through to go smoke.
joe rogan
How much does Ian smoke a day?
jordan jensen
I think he's down.
I think he's down to like a pack and a half.
unidentified
Oh, God.
jordan jensen
He's getting there.
I need to get him onto Zins, but he thinks that's gay.
joe rogan
Zins are gay?
jordan jensen
He thinks.
joe rogan
Look at all the stuff he talks about on stage.
jordan jensen
Yeah, that he thinks is perfectly regular and above board.
Perfectly regular and above board.
joe rogan
But Zins are gay.
That's so silly.
That's what a silly take.
jordan jensen
But so many people have that.
That's like when people are like, I'm not going to enter recovery because I don't believe in God.
I'm like, you were drunk last night praying that you could fuck, you know, Sidney Sweeney.
Like, you're praying.
You're doing weird stuff.
You're delusional.
joe rogan
Oh, I don't want to believe in God.
That's hilarious.
jordan jensen
People say that a lot where they avoid AA because they don't believe in God.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What's weird is the guy who founded AA did it.
He was an acid head.
He used acid to get off of alcohol.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
Yeah.
unidentified
But he doesn't talk about that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The thing is all about.
jordan jensen
Mushrooms to get off alcohol.
joe rogan
I've heard a lot of people do that.
jordan jensen
I use mushrooms to cure like a huge amount of OCD.
I was like, OCD was dominating my life.
Couldn't touch anything.
Had to wash my hands constantly.
It was like, and then I tripped hard and went into a room alone for six hours and was like, I will.
And it was, I was tripping hard.
And I was like, I'm going to deal with this in this room and figure out what it is.
joe rogan
And what was it?
jordan jensen
It was that I fundamentally don't trust myself to make the right decision.
And I realized that none of my decisions were up to me.
It was all just an amalgamation of experiences.
Cause I was like, who's going to stop me from biting or hurting or doing anything?
So I was like, if I tap this, that'll stop me.
And when I faced it in acid, it was like, you think you're going to do bad things, but you're not because you have chosen the right path this whole way so you can trust yourself.
You know what I mean?
Like three-year-old Jordan was not outside killing a cat.
You know what I mean?
She was fucking playing, right?
Like, so every step of the way, you're building this personality that you can trust.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Because my whole thing was like, who, how am I to know that I'm not a horrible, that I'm not going to do something horrible, which is a big OCD thing for people.
joe rogan
Wondering whether you're going to do something horrible.
jordan jensen
Yeah, like a lot of OCD.
Like I know a girl who she couldn't babysit because she was like, what if I am a pedophile?
joe rogan
Oh my God.
jordan jensen
Because her OCD was so bad.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
jordan jensen
And then she was like, oh, this is OCD.
And she was treated and she was like, it's fine.
But like a lot of people, people will have babies and they'll be like, what if I freaking spin this baby's head off?
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
jordan jensen
I have that all the time, dude.
I have that.
Whenever my friends like, hold my baby, I'm like, okay.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
That's so crazy.
jordan jensen
But you don't do shit because it's like the, it's like the ski jump thing.
You're going to.
joe rogan
That's interesting.
I never thought of it that way.
It's like you're not trusting yourself.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
And I also used to be super fat.
Like I was a fat kid.
And I think there's a part of me that's like, if you were able to do that, then you're able to do horrible things.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Because you're able to get fat?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Like if you were able to binge eat like that as a kid, then you're not really to be trusted.
You know what I mean?
And I had to face all of that on this acid trip and I came out of it and was like, was it acid or mushrooms?
That was acid.
joe rogan
Okay.
jordan jensen
Mushrooms, I micro-dose.
Acid, I don't do anymore because of how crazy that was.
But that one I did a lot and came out.
Got it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're like, I got it, got the lesson.
I'm not going back to school.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
Totally.
And I still have a little bit of OCD.
I still have some things that I didn't get rid of, but for the most part, I got rid of it.
joe rogan
It seems debilitating.
I've met people that have it.
It's nuts.
And some people, it gets worse as like their success grows, which is really crazy.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like Howard Hughes type shit.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
I loved that movie growing up because I resonated with him so much.
joe rogan
It's weird.
jordan jensen
You got to stop it.
I mean, that's the thing is if you don't get in the way of it, it just builds neuronal grooves in your brain that become so averse to plasticity.
Like you can't get out of them.
And that's what I remember like this woman being like, I want you to bring in contaminated items.
And I was like, go fuck yourself, bitch.
I was like, absolutely not.
I was like, then we'd have to burn my mother's car.
Like, there's no way.
But you do, every time something's contaminated a little bit, you have to like force yourself to do it, to touch it, or whatever your thing is.
joe rogan
Like contaminated food?
jordan jensen
For me, it was contamination.
Was if some, when I was younger, I was worried that I would become like, say you were like, I cheated on my wife last night.
And then you're like, you want to hit this vape or whatever?
I wouldn't be able to touch it because I'd be like, he does bad things.
If I hit that vape, I'll do bad things.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan jensen
You know, so if somebody was whack, they'd be contaminated and I couldn't go near them.
joe rogan
There's something to that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a little something to that.
There's a little wisdom behind that.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because people do kind of adopt the mindset of people they're around.
jordan jensen
I mean, that's what I've had to learn recently.
I'm like, you got to cut out whack people and get that that's not OCD.
That's like healthy for you.
joe rogan
Yeah, whack people can ruin everything.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Really shitty human beings that you have kept in your life for whatever fucking weird reason, they can just derail your whole life.
jordan jensen
The thing that sucks about comedy is sometimes these people are so fucking funny.
unidentified
I know.
And you have to cut out somebody who's so funny.
joe rogan
I know.
jordan jensen
That sucks.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
It does suck.
It does.
jordan jensen
People at a desk job.
I'm like, you're cutting out Brian, who's like kind of, you know, who's like just all right, who brought you a cupcake once.
I'm cutting out people who are like the only people I can say racist shit around.
You're like cutting out like a huge cord of my sense of humor.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
And that, but I've had to do that recently.
Just be like, dude, I can't.
The vibe is too dark.
It's sinister.
joe rogan
It is a problem.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's people in your life that just, for whatever fucking reason, will never get it together.
And at a certain point in time, you try to rescue a drowning person, they'll drown you.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
They'll drown you.
jordan jensen
It's hard to watch other people do it and not cut people out.
And you're like, that if you could just cut.
Like my friend's mom is just such a drain on her life.
And I'm like, you gotta just.
joe rogan
Did you see that fucking Netflix documentary about that little girl who was in a small town who's getting harassed by someone that turned out to be her mom?
jordan jensen
I heard about this, but I did not see it.
Oh, I saw this on Instagram and I thought it was not real.
joe rogan
It's nuts.
jordan jensen
She was getting bullied by her mom.
Her mom.
joe rogan
She didn't have a job.
The father thought the mom had a job.
The mom was just all day trolling and fucking with her daughter for years.
And you know what the girl said at one point in time?
She's like, I miss my mom because her mom was there to protect her from the bad world.
But really, the only bad world was her mom pretending to be someone else.
jordan jensen
Wait, she said, I miss my mom.
joe rogan
Because she thought her mom was a sweet person that protected her.
And she found out her mom was a fucking monster.
jordan jensen
Oh, so later after she found out, she was like, I miss my mom.
unidentified
Yes.
jordan jensen
Oh, that's brutal.
joe rogan
Brutal.
jordan jensen
That's like when somebody breaks up with you and you're like, I just want to talk to them about this bad breakup.
joe rogan
Well, that's that thing that some crazy people do.
It's Munchausen's by proxy.
jordan jensen
So she was, is that Munchausen's album?
joe rogan
Munchausen's when you hurt them.
You hurt them so that you could help them.
jordan jensen
Oh, she was doing that.
joe rogan
She was being like, she was the one who was trolling her own daughter.
She was someone else online attacking her own daughter, calling her a whore, calling her horrible things.
jordan jensen
And being like, P.S., your mom's a babe.
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Your mom's an enigma.
jordan jensen
Your mom's really hot.
You should go talk to her.
Your mom's an enigma.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I noticed your mom's an enigma.
jordan jensen
I think you noticed that too.
joe rogan
So the moment I saw you, I noticed it.
jordan jensen
That's crazy.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
It's so.
jordan jensen
Is she in jail or something?
joe rogan
I don't know.
I didn't get that far.
I can't.
With the stuff like that, where people are mean to their kids.
I'm like, I can't do this.
jordan jensen
I love that shit.
I don't love it, but I fucking fall asleep to this.
unidentified
It's hard.
joe rogan
It's horrible shit.
It's hard with you love your kids.
I love my kids.
I can't.
I see some seeing someone being that.
It's not just, it's fucking evil beyond belief.
jordan jensen
How old are your kids?
joe rogan
She torched that.
I have a 28-year-old daughter.
I have a 17 and a 15.
jordan jensen
Wait, if you have a 28-year-old, you were healthy.
joe rogan
Well, it's not my biological daughter.
jordan jensen
Oh, okay, okay, okay.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
So did you have any kids?
Were all your kids had after you were financially good?
joe rogan
Yes.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Do you think that's the move?
joe rogan
I don't know.
There's something to be said for growing up poor.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I grew up poor.
I think it's good.
I think I understand hard work.
You know, I understand what it's like to have to have a job to get stuff.
Like, you know, you want to buy a new pair of pants.
You need to get a fucking job.
You know, you need to get a car.
Well, you have to save up.
jordan jensen
But all those things you're describing you can do.
Growing up poor for me is like growing up watching your parents fight over who is going to pay the child support.
You know what I mean?
I think you can grow up fine and still work.
joe rogan
My parents didn't fight.
My stepmom and my, excuse me, my stepdad and my mom have been together for a long time and they have a very good relationship.
So that like modeled for me when I was a kid.
My parents got split up, my biological dad and my mom when I was five.
And my mom married my stepdad when I was like seven.
jordan jensen
Where's your dad, dad?
joe rogan
We don't talk.
jordan jensen
Oh, we don't talk?
joe rogan
I don't know him.
jordan jensen
Okay.
joe rogan
But my stepdad's a great guy.
jordan jensen
So you have good parents.
joe rogan
They modeled a good relationship when I was a kid of people that don't yell at each other, don't fight.
jordan jensen
That's nice.
joe rogan
Get along.
unidentified
That's nice.
joe rogan
They have disagreements and stuff.
jordan jensen
Loving relationship.
joe rogan
Yeah, they have disagreements, but they're nice to each other.
They're kind to each other.
And, you know, if you see that when you're a kid, you go, oh, this is possible.
But if you see like chaos all the time and everyone's fighting and screaming and yelling at each other, you're like, keep me the fuck away from whatever this is.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, because I remember I watched my grandmother and my grandparents, my grandmother was always yelling at my grandfather.
I was like, oh, don't stay married, whatever you do.
I was like, well, when I was a little kid, I was like, you got to get out while you can.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
I think that's why there's so many avoidant men right now is because I think there's so many of those like lazy boy dads who are like dissociated looking at a TV that isn't on.
And every time they try to like, you know, every time you're like, hey, Jim, how's it going?
Their like wife flies in is like, don't talk to him for a second.
Like there's so many couples like that.
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of cucked out men out there, cucked out by their job, cucked out by life.
You know, you just stop being a man and then you stop getting any respect from the people that know you because they know you're kind of a bitch.
The people that really know you, like your wife and your kids, really know you.
Like, oh, Harry, Harry's a fucking bitch.
jordan jensen
Yeah, there's so many boomers like that, though.
There's so many where it's the dad is so quiet and so distant and the mom is just so up everyone's death.
joe rogan
Thoreau wrote about that.
Like, what?
Whenever he wrote this, he said, most men live lives of quiet desperation.
That's fucked.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
That's fucked.
joe rogan
That's fucked, but that's real.
jordan jensen
But why does that happen?
joe rogan
Well, there's a whole bunch of reasons because you stop challenging yourself or you never did.
You stop growing and you don't have any character.
You don't exhibit a strong will and you don't have discipline.
And then, you know, you're emotionally disconnected from the life that you've chosen.
And then you have a job where you have to pretend to be someone you're not for eight hours a day and work for a boss who's a piece of shit.
jordan jensen
And then you lose the job because the job becomes irrelevant.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then you're a broken man.
And then you're like 46 years old.
And they're telling you to learn to code.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, oh, great.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah.
That's fucked.
joe rogan
A lot of people, they don't know what to do, and they didn't get good advice when they were young.
They didn't get a good direction.
They didn't find something that they could focus their energy on and realize like, oh, if I focus my energy on something, whatever it is, I can get better at stuff.
I'll start off sucky, but you keep working at it and eventually you get – some people never learn that.
jordan jensen
Well, it'd be nice if they could also focus on being a parent.
Like, I feel like the women stay loud because they're like, I'm a mother.
I'm mama bear.
You know, so I'm like, it would be nice if the dads would get off the lazy boy and be like, I'm going to help raise my kids instead of seeing.
joe rogan
You know, it's just fucking, some people are just beaten.
Like, they wanted to be spider-man.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
They wanted to be cool.
They wanted to have a good life and life just fucking cracked them in the dick every time they made a move.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, they got their car repossessed.
Oh, Jesus.
Credit card.
jordan jensen
There's got to be something biological, though, that makes a man not.
Like, you have the pride.
Burt Kreischer, I just talked about it.
Like, you guys have the pride in your children hardcore.
Like, as soon as I met you, you showed me a photo of your daughter.
You know what I mean?
Like, but I do feel like there are a lot of men who are like, that's not my responsibility.
joe rogan
Oh, that's crazy.
That's crazy.
Well, maybe it's the way they were raised, you know.
jordan jensen
But maybe if you had lost your job, if you weren't in comedy and you were tired and didn't have your, didn't have your passion, maybe you wouldn't be as gung-ho about being a dad.
Or maybe you'd feel like a failed dad.
Maybe that's what it is.
Maybe they feel like a failed dad.
joe rogan
Perhaps.
I don't know.
I would have figured it out.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah.
I don't know.
joe rogan
I just don't believe that.
I just, if I lost my job doing something, I would find another job.
I would figure it out.
There's other paths.
You don't just stay still if the path doesn't work out.
And some people do.
jordan jensen
Some people do.
I didn't know that until recently that some people really do stay still forever.
joe rogan
Oh, they quit.
Well, that's why they love unemployment because they could just get a check and just still and just wallow in.
jordan jensen
And there's so many people who are against unemployment that still that still stay still that are like, fuck, fuck unemployment.
I'm hiring the government.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's even sillier, I guess.
I don't know.
Yeah.
People are weird.
You know, just.
jordan jensen
If I quit comedy right now, there'd be like three jobs that I would be almost just as stoked about.
joe rogan
What would those be?
jordan jensen
I would love to be a full-time contractor out in the sticks.
I would be a philosophy professor or a therapist.
joe rogan
Really?
jordan jensen
Yeah, all of those sound sick.
joe rogan
Which one sounds the most sick?
jordan jensen
Philosophy professor.
Because you kind of become a therapist when you are a professor.
You know what I mean?
You have those kids that are fucked up.
So they're reading philosophy.
Like me, I was going in there being like.
joe rogan
Or the guys that are trying to get laid.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Trying to become.
jordan jensen
It's a lot of dorks.
joe rogan
Bet.
jordan jensen
It's like I was the only girl major in my class and the rest were dorky guys.
Dorks who wore ties to class, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, philosophy itself is a strange thing because you're just thinking about a structure of how you interface with the world.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
It was the only thing I could study well.
Everything else.
I was like, why would I study something that's already been known?
Is it crazy?
But philosophy was like, nope, they're all just trying to figure out life, which I was like, okay, I get that.
And none of them are correct.
And they're like, none of them are correct.
And I was like, great.
Because I would study science and I'd be like, well, you know, I get the exact measurement of how to find out this thing.
I'd be like, why do I want to study that?
There's nothing new here.
joe rogan
My favorite book of philosophy I started reading when I was like, I guess I was 16 is The Book of Five Rings by Miyamoto Musashi.
He's a samurai who killed 60 men in one-on-one combat with swords.
But he was all about the way to become a great sword fighter.
You have to be balanced.
Like you can't have any holes in your game as a human being.
You have to be an artist.
You have to be a poet.
You have to learn calligraphy.
You have to be completely balanced and you have to see the thing for what it is.
You can't have any bullshit.
You can't have any fat, right?
We were talking about fat.
jordan jensen
No delusions.
joe rogan
You can't have any bullshit.
There's no bullshit when you're sword fighting.
jordan jensen
But don't sometimes, do you ever feel like you're in that flow state in your life where you'll be like, I have all these moving parts and I have it down?
And like, I recently had this where I was like, I'm oil painting.
I'm doing stand-up.
I have my friends.
I'm in this groove.
And then something will happen where I'll just like have like explosive diarrhea or something.
Like something will happen where I'm just like, Jesus Christ.
I thought I was fucking suave.
I had this shit.
I used to do that with poker where I'd be like, I have this whole poker game on lock and then something would happen.
Like it's almost like one of those swords that you have to have in balance is also humility.
Like you also have to be like, and I'm a person who still has a butthole, you know?
joe rogan
Right.
And that's going to go sideways always.
jordan jensen
Yeah, because I would be like, I'm going to get in this flow state, da-da-da-da-da-da.
And then I'd mess up a word on stage and I'd be like, I'm an idiot, you know?
So I have to keep that also.
Be like, you also are fallible.
joe rogan
Well, that's what's a good thing about stand-up.
It's like it smacks you every time you do it wrong.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You got to do it right.
jordan jensen
It's crazy how true it is that you're only good as good as your last set.
joe rogan
You are.
jordan jensen
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's why, like, if you have a bad set, you can't wait to get on stage again.
Like, get me up there.
jordan jensen
Dude, I was like, I'm doing no sets in Austin bomb last night hitting Rebecca up.
I'm like, what do you got?
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Let me bust out some old mothership.
Yeah, come tonight.
What are you doing tonight?
My show.
jordan jensen
Oh, okay.
What time's it at?
joe rogan
Seven.
jordan jensen
Yeah, that would actually be good.
unidentified
Let's fucking go.
jordan jensen
Let's do it.
I was, dude, there's a clip I wanted to post about that's really funny about your club where I was like, you get in here and there's a guy who's like, my name's Kyle.
I'll carry you up this flight of stairs.
I have a PhD in MMA.
I'm going to pass you off to Derek.
Derek has an AK-47.
And we get in the green room and I'm like, they're like, do you need anything?
We'll kill people for you.
And I was like, could I have some like almonds or snacks?
And they're like, no, we have smelling salts.
unidentified
And I was like, wait.
jordan jensen
I was like, is there any just like water bottles?
They're like, no, we have neurotropic dust.
joe rogan
It was so funny.
We were in the green room the other day and someone had called us like some alt-right white supremacist club.
I was in the room with Brian Simpson, who's black, Derek Poston, who's black, Asana Matt, who's Muslim.
It was Tony Hinchcliffe, Ron White, and me.
I'm like, this is a pretty diverse lineup.
unidentified
Like, what are we talking?
joe rogan
This is so silly.
jordan jensen
You're looking at comments.
See, it's hard.
joe rogan
It's hard to not look at this.
unidentified
It wasn't.
joe rogan
It was a video.
It wasn't a comment.
It was a video of someone that one of the guys was playing.
It was like, look how fucking stupid this is.
The idea that this, like, that you had to be like, I'm not even a Republican.
Like, I voted for Trump because I thought we were going in a terrifying direction where there was not really a president for four years and the same people are now going to be running the government.
Like, let's.
jordan jensen
Weren't you like a Bernie, bro?
joe rogan
Yes.
So I've only voted Republican once in my life.
The idea that you have to be a Republican to get in at that club is so ridiculous.
That club is filled with gay people, black people, straight people, white people, Asian.
No one gives a fuck.
jordan jensen
Yeah, that green room is.
joe rogan
You're just doing comedy.
You're just doing comedy.
Whoever you are, whatever you believe, we have tons of lively discussions.
jordan jensen
I will say one time I was there and Jordan Peterson walked through and I was like, you can't be here.
That's too on the nose.
Get out of here.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
It is weird.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
That's crazy with his daughter.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
He came with his daughter.
Yeah.
He's been there a few times.
Yeah.
He even did Kill Tony.
jordan jensen
Oh, he was on it?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was on Kill Tony.
That's crazy.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
So is Post Malone.
Post Malone had no idea.
And I brought him on stage.
He had no idea what the show was.
No idea what anything was.
I just brought him up there.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
I did that twice.
Once with Post Malone and once with Tucker Carlson.
I was having dinner with Tucker Carlson.
I'm like, you want to go by and go see Kill Tony?
And they were there.
And I told Tony and he's like, bring him on stage.
I go, I'm not even going to tell him what it is.
So I go, dude, we're going to go on stage.
And he's like, what?
jordan jensen
Oh, my God.
He was great.
Was he good?
joe rogan
Yes.
He was funny.
He was like laughing.
He was cracking jokes with the comedians back and forth.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It was really surprisingly great.
jordan jensen
Wait, you're not Republican.
You used to be Bernie Bro.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Are you Bernie Bro?
joe rogan
I am.
Look, I think the idea of socialism is wonderful if everybody had their shit together and everybody was disciplined.
But it's not the case.
And I think that human nature, unfortunately, you're going to need some socialism, though, right?
You're going to need the fire department.
Like, this is one of the things that I point to all the time.
People say, oh, socialism doesn't work.
The fire department is an entirely socialist idea.
Like, we all pay into it and they take care of everybody's fire, right?
You can't have only the rich people have a fire department and the poor people, their fucking house burns down all the time.
That's crazy, right?
We all agree to that.
Well, that should be the same with education.
That should be the same with healthcare.
Are we a fucking community or are we not?
And if we're a community, you have to take care of the downtrodden and you have to do it because it's bad for them and it's also bad for you.
We're all in this together.
So you have to have a social safety net.
I believe in all that.
But I also believe you can't just give people free money because then they rely on it and they become dependent on it and then it takes away their ambition and then they don't do anything.
That's true too.
It doesn't mean you're not compassionate.
I don't like either one of these parties.
I don't think there's a solution that's correct.
I think you have overcorrection after overcorrection.
I think you have the country goes one way and then it swings hard the other way.
Yeah, America's back.
And then it swings the other way.
Now we're the new America and America's this way.
It's like everyone's so tribal and everyone's so locked into their idea that they're the good guys and these are the bad guys.
We got to get them back and we're going to get them in the midterms.
unidentified
We're going to get them in the fucking next elections.
jordan jensen
Like, oh, it's crazy.
And it's created by that.
joe rogan
Yeah, sort of.
It's all on who you talk to with comedy.
It's like, there's a lot of bitter people out there.
But, you know, that's that old expression.
I forget who said that, that we brought this up before, that all criticism is the tragic result of unmet needs.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's a paraphrase, but there's a lot of that there.
unidentified
There's a lot of like, I don't like how Jordan is like, why does she have a fucking Netflix special?
She mailed for me once and she didn't even do good.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
Did somebody say that?
unidentified
No.
jordan jensen
Dude, I'm just somebody who, I mean, I fucking, I'll date a libertarian and become a fucking libertarian.
Somebody will talk to me about Israel.
I'll listen to fucking one Sam Harris episode.
Now all of a sudden I'm fucking Zionist.
I'll talk to, I talked to John Marco the other day.
Now I'm fucking all pro-Palace.
Like whatever it is, I switch back and forth and then I do podcasts and people are like, you are.
And I'm like, well, I'll tell you what I am.
I'm an idiot, dude.
I will switch.
I will move.
But I do think that's what makes a comedian is somebody who can try on so many different perspectives.
And it is hard that people are looking at comics like politicians.
joe rogan
You're not an idiot because both sides have points.
That's why you can be swayed.
jordan jensen
I'm all double down.
joe rogan
I mean, doubling down is just going down the rabbit hole of whatever that ideology believes because like they probably have a really good pitch.
And then, you know, if you talk to the socialists, they probably have a real good pitch.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
Totally.
It's just.
But I double down in a way that's like, I'll be like, this thing's fucking bad.
And then the next day I'll be like, actually, it's pretty good.
Like I'll, I'll stop eating meat and being like, anybody who eats meat sucks.
And then somebody be like, want to buy this burger?
The ironer hit me.
And I'll be like, fuck cows, dude.
Like, I go too hard in the paint on both sides.
And I do, I remember, I remember in college, these girls would bully me.
And I remember being like, why don't you guys like me?
And they go, you just have too strong of convictions.
And I was like, oh, interesting.
Cause I always thought that was a good thing.
And I think for comedy, it is to be like, you get up on stage or you do a podcast and you go, what if I just try on this idea hardcore?
And that's like an interesting thing to do as opposed to being like, well, I see this is kind of good and that's good too.
You know, like there is something about comedy just being like, what if this is the truth right now?
joe rogan
That's an interesting thing to say to someone.
You're too strong with your convictions.
jordan jensen
I'll never forget that.
I'll never forget the girl who said it.
joe rogan
Did the girl give you an example?
jordan jensen
It was just, I would talk the way I talk where they'd be like, you know, I'd be like, women need to stop wearing dresses.
High heels are ridiculous.
Or I'd be like, men need to do this.
Or women, you know, or I'd be like, or I'd be like, I'm going to go ahead and say diners need to go.
You know, like whatever it was.
Right, right, right.
It would just, I'd be in or out on topics immediately.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
And they'd be like, you're just like too intense with your thoughts.
And I'd be like, yeah, totally.
Every, I mean, this is like why I would be bad in Nazi Germany.
I mean, hopefully it would be okay, but I know I'd be somebody to be like, wait, no, wait, no.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, there's got to be some sort of a psychological reason why all those people went along with that.
jordan jensen
Right?
I mean, yeah, they went along.
I think a lot of it was, yeah.
I mean, I think a lot of it was just kind of dissociation, right?
joe rogan
Well, there's a little bit of that, but then there's also, there's a tribal mentality that kicks in.
Like there's a default switch that happens to people.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And in this country, you saw a lot of it during COVID.
It was like the vaccinated people were hating on the unvaccinated.
They should have their children taken away and like put them into camps.
Like, do you hear yourself?
You hear yourself?
jordan jensen
It's so weird because it's such a different, like I was with so many anti-vaxxers.
Like I was, they were, they're my friends, but I was like, oh, I'm getting vaccinated because number one thing that's important to me is comedy.
I have no idea if the vaccine gave me long COVID, if COVID gave me long, whatever the fuck.
But I just have to perform.
That's it.
My health comes second.
joe rogan
Did you get long COVID?
jordan jensen
Bro, my shit is fucked up.
I can't, like those Ubers that have those smelly trees, I have to get out of them.
I get immediate migraines.
Like because my smell is fucked up.
joe rogan
Your smell's fucked up.
jordan jensen
Like if you have deodorant that has like chemicals in it, it's rancid to me.
unidentified
Really?
jordan jensen
Yeah.
And so many people were people were going out.
joe rogan
That's your long COVID.
Do you just smell things?
jordan jensen
Smell.
It's bad, though.
joe rogan
I don't think you can call that long COVID.
Long COVID.
Yeah, long COVID is people that are exhausted and they have like heart palpitations.
jordan jensen
I got a synapse off.
I got a synapse off.
joe rogan
You just got to upgrade in your nose.
jordan jensen
I did get it up.
Yeah, but it sucks, dude.
But if somebody's wearing cologne, I'm like, I got to go.
joe rogan
Perfect.
Yeah.
You got a wolf nose.
jordan jensen
I got a wolf nose.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's great.
jordan jensen
Some people.
joe rogan
You got to change the way you look at it.
jordan jensen
You're right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
I thought I had long COVID and then I stopped eating sugar.
I thought I had the bad one.
And then I stopped eating candy and I was like, well, hello.
It's crazy.
What are you doing?
joe rogan
Bro, candy wrecks your shit.
Isn't it nuts?
jordan jensen
And I was a whore.
Little candy slut.
joe rogan
Ooh, little candy slut.
jordan jensen
I wasn't eating anything.
joe rogan
What does it say?
Long COVID can cause altered smell.
jordan jensen
There it is, Paris.
joe rogan
Or a parasomia where things smell distorted, foul, or different than they used to, even if the initial COVID-19 symptoms have passed.
So did you get this after you got like when did this start happening?
Did you get COVID?
jordan jensen
Yes.
You got vaccinated six times.
joe rogan
Of course you did.
jordan jensen
I just had vaccinated.
joe rogan
The people who didn't get vaccinated got it once or twice.
jordan jensen
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
Shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, they fucked you.
They fucked everybody.
They fucked everybody with that goddamn stupid thing.
jordan jensen
I got it hard.
See, I'll talk to you about this.
unidentified
And then tomorrow, my liberal mom will be like, the vaccine is good.
jordan jensen
And I'll be like, yes, mommy, I agree.
joe rogan
It's a long conversation.
It would take a long time to explain what was wrong, but it all boils down to the same thing that it always does, which is money.
They distorted the facts.
They distorted the research.
They distorted the efficacy.
They distorted what it was actually designed to do just because they wanted money.
That's it.
jordan jensen
Did we pay them for the vaccine?
joe rogan
Oh, fuck yeah.
They made a shit ton of money.
It might have been free for you.
jordan jensen
I like the idea of money, but isn't your camp in on like control, mind control?
Not mind control, but knowing where we are, like anti-vax people.
joe rogan
I'm not an anti-vax person.
jordan jensen
What are you?
joe rogan
No.
jordan jensen
Give yourself a label.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
I believe that all medications should be subject to scrutiny.
They should all go through rigorous double-blind placebo control trials to find out what the side effects are, what the efficacy rate is, what's the real facts.
jordan jensen
But then they'll just lie about that.
joe rogan
But this is why.
This is why.
The problem is pharmaceutical drug companies do their own research.
Not only do they do their own research, but they do their own research that they hide.
So they'll do multiple studies that show no efficacy.
And then they'll rig one study where they can show just like a little bit of an improvement and then they just sell it and they start going with it.
And they've done that before.
They got sued because of Viox.
Vioxx killed 50, 60,000 people.
And through internal emails, the pharmaceutical drug company was saying we're going to have these problems.
And it listed all the different things that people wound up getting, including strokes.
We're going to have these cardiovascular problems, cardiopulmonary problems, but whatever the wording was, I don't want to be quoted on it, but it will be good for us financially.
We'll do well with this.
jordan jensen
It's in the email?
joe rogan
Yeah, in the email.
We'll do well with this.
It killed 50 to 60,000 people.
A friend of mine got a stroke.
He got on Viox because he had knee problems.
It was an anti-inflammatory medication.
jordan jensen
Sometimes there's fishy shit like that.
Like sometimes I'll take Prozac from one place and from a different place.
Very different thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, because it's from Mexico.
jordan jensen
It's got fentanyl in it.
Weird shit going on.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
What do you think about Ozempic?
joe rogan
We talked about that the other day with a guy who runs a pharmacy.
The problem with it is that when they're dosing it out to people, they're giving everyone the same dose, and it should be dependent upon like how much weight are you trying to lose?
What is your body weight?
There's a bunch of different things.
jordan jensen
Isn't it just that it holds on to poop?
unidentified
Well, it doesn't seem to be good for you.
jordan jensen
If poop is sitting in your body.
joe rogan
Poop stays in your body a little longer and food digests slower and it kills your appetite.
But if you're morbidly obese and you might die from that, this is probably a good solution.
So it's not a, it's like, don't throw out the baby with the bathwater.
I don't want it.
I don't need it.
But if I did, if I was 600 pounds and I was in this, and someone said, look, and I can give you this thing, it'll kill your appetite.
Like, fucking please.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Please.
jordan jensen
Totally.
joe rogan
So it's beneficial for that.
And then there's a problem with muscle loss and bone density loss.
But my friend Brigham, who was on the other day, the episode's out now, he was saying that the issue is that they're giving them too much of a dose.
And if you mix it with other peptides, you can actually eliminate those problems.
So there's a way to dose it out for people that are, and you would just lose nothing but fat.
It is possible to do.
It just has to be done correctly.
So he was explaining it.
jordan jensen
And right now it's willy-nilly.
joe rogan
Well, right now, everyone's just getting on it.
And instead of just going to the gym, there's people that like need to lose 20 pounds.
They're getting on Ozempic.
That's crazy.
You can lose 20 pounds in a couple months.
jordan jensen
The thing that's frustrating is because I used to be so fat.
I used to have type 2 diabetes and I got rid of it, which is crazy.
And like, it's frustrating.
joe rogan
You're still eating all that sugar?
unidentified
Dude.
jordan jensen
Well, that's the thing is I can eat sugar exclusively, lose weight if I only eat the candy.
Like it was like this bizarre diet I would go on.
And then I just had to like switch my mind.
But that mental switch of being like, this is not for fun.
This food is not for fun.
You've had your fun.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
Like you did that.
You did the candy, you did the pizza.
You did all of that.
Now we're using food as like the same way we use sleep, where it's like, I feel better when I get eight hours, right?
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
And once you do that switch, it feels like things click into place.
So with people on Ozempic, I'm like, if you could just get that turn of your brain, it would help so much.
If you could just, it does feel like a switch where you're like.
joe rogan
But think about what you had to go through with acid to get CD.
jordan jensen
Right.
joe rogan
And now imagine you're 600 pounds and you've been eating candy for 35 years.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's, you know, it's a big switch.
It's a battleship.
You can't just fucking...
jordan jensen
I think recovery helps.
joe rogan
It's like, you gotta turn that motherfucker around.
jamie vernon
Did you see a sugar diet going viral earlier this year?
joe rogan
Yeah, I know Mark Bell was really into that.
Unlimited sugar, restricted protein ever be a good thing.
What is the good of the battle?
What?
jamie vernon
It's literally, I swear I was paying attention when he said, I was like, there's no way you're sitting to see candy.
joe rogan
It's not just candy, but I thought he was fucking around.
jamie vernon
No, it's like fruit, but he's like, if candy is all you got, it's not the worst thing.
joe rogan
But it's low protein, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's like a certain amount of protein.
There's a video of him explaining it if you want to watch that.
joe rogan
So he weighs 95 kilograms, which is, what is that, like 230 pounds?
jamie vernon
The video I just saw, you said he was like 207, 210.
He was going to get under 200.
jordan jensen
Does he have a face?
Can we see his face?
joe rogan
No, he's a handsome guy.
Good looking guy.
But it doesn't work with him because he's really fit and he's been doing a bunch of different stuff his whole life.
jordan jensen
My favorite thing.
joe rogan
Like he was carnivore dying for a long time.
It's not.
jordan jensen
No, dude.
See the deep sunken lines?
That's sugar.
joe rogan
He's like 50 years old.
No, this is the new thing.
Like he was always like this.
This is what he looked like forever.
And he used to be gigantic.
jordan jensen
You know what, Pizza?
He's going to be like, this is a moment we'd be like, that's anorexia.
Because when I told people I was only eating sugar, they were like, that's anorexia.
joe rogan
Hold on.
Show what he looks like, Jamie.
Go to his Instagram.
And wait, you see how fit this guy is.
Like, this guy is in tremendous shape.
jordan jensen
No protein?
Oh, the veins are getting me.
joe rogan
Well, he's always had those.
But that's my point.
Like, click on that one on the right-hand side.
Like, look, that's what we're talking about.
He's a big jack dude.
So for him to do this diet and say, you know, look, I've got this body.
Well, bitch, you always had that body.
Like, I don't know.
jordan jensen
No, I mean, I've gotten very skinny off the all-sugar diet, but it has effects.
Yeast infection all the time.
Deep dark circles.
unidentified
From sugar.
jordan jensen
From sugar.
Fucks up your sleep.
joe rogan
When did you stop with the sugar?
jordan jensen
Like two months ago.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan jensen
But I'm having ice cream today because my special came out.
But we've been planning.
We have been planning.
We're going to Amy's ice cream, but we're going to have it too.
joe rogan
It's a great spot.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
But I've been off sugar.
It just helps a lot.
I've just been doing fats and like stuff like that, which is great.
And I can eat as much as it used to be like I had to, everything I ate, I had to do a tiny amount.
And now it's like I can eat as many eggs and avocado.
joe rogan
Isn't that nuts?
jordan jensen
It's a crazy thing.
joe rogan
It doesn't even seem like it's real.
I know.
If you just ate nothing but steak, you would lose weight.
Everyone's like, no way.
Like, yeah, because your body would regulate correctly.
When you're done, you're done.
Like, if you sit down and you have a 16-ounce steak, if you really only need 12 ounces, after 12 ounces, you'll stop eating.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's all you're eating.
But if you have mashed potatoes there and then a bowl of pasta and then an ice cream and then a cake.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
Try eating cake after you ate a whole avocado.
You're like, I'm good.
Like you don't.
The fat gets you.
It's so crazy.
joe rogan
Also, your gut biome switches and your gut biome doesn't crave sugar anymore.
It's that candida.
jordan jensen
The candida is what I did, the candida diet.
Because every time I got my period, I had a yeast infection.
And then it was just, I was itchy.
And I was like, what's going on?
And I was like, I had brain fog and I chat GBT and it was like, oh, you're riddled with candida.
And I was like, oh, I'll try the diet.
And then I immediately started thinking faster and was not itchy at all.
joe rogan
Isn't that bizarre that your gut biome has an effect on your personality?
jordan jensen
It's fucked up.
joe rogan
Well, we are a literal ecosystem.
We want to think of ourselves as a person, but we're really like a life form that houses life forms.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
I think it's because our control panel is up here makes us think that we're this like unit that we can fuck with.
Like I think if our eyes were here, we would maybe be like, this is a whole collective system, but this fucks us up.
Like I was watching this fat, huge tall guy eat an ice cream cone the other day and his arm was like this and he was like six, seven.
He was just licking it.
And I was like, it looks like this little man is eating this ice cream cone unbeknownst to this giant body down below.
Like it looks like this little guy's just riding this big guy.
And I think that if we could just slide this fucker down.
joe rogan
Yeah, body awareness of what you are as a whole.
But that's also a lot of people don't do anything with their body.
So their body is just like a truck that they drive around.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
And we do have a mouth.
I have a vagina, which is a mouth.
You know what I mean?
We have the fucking more face down there.
The uterus is a fucking other head and the gut and everything.
We just don't have eyeballs there.
So we forget about it completely.
joe rogan
Really?
It's a head?
jordan jensen
I think so.
Yeah.
It's a fucking whole thinking thing.
Your gut is freaking always praying.
joe rogan
It's definitely thinking.
Your heart thinks too.
There's neurons in your heart.
jordan jensen
But the serotonin in the gut and the brain and stuff, it feels pretty balanced.
It's just the eyeballs fuck us up.
joe rogan
Well, if we could have an understanding that you're an actual system, it would be a lot better for people.
Because so many people just think like, oh, I don't want to worry about my body.
I'm worried about my brain.
Like, they think it's almost like vein to think about your body.
And vein is stupid.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's okay, but there's no virtue in being a weak piece of shit.
Like, that's not good for you.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
And it just impacts your brain.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's not intelligent to not take care of your body.
unidentified
Stupid.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
It's crazy.
It is.
Yeah.
And the second I start, I stop working out, it is so weird how much pent-up energy.
And then I'm like lethargic and then I have to eat sugar and it all gets fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Also, you start getting anxiety.
You're like, oh, start flicking.
jordan jensen
Anytime I participate in self-deception in any way, it bleeds into everything.
Like anytime I'm neglecting some part of my life, you can like smell it on me.
The second I walk in, I'm like, hey, sorry, I didn't know.
I shouldn't be, you know, and I have this whole air and it's like, I just needed to do my dishes.
I would have been fine.
joe rogan
That's Miyamoto Musashi.
jordan jensen
Oh, that's the sword.
joe rogan
So literally, that's his book.
He's like, you have to be balanced.
You have to balance everything.
jordan jensen
That's good.
But then sometimes don't you go sicko mode where you go, fuck it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Kind of, but not for long periods of time.
jordan jensen
Do you drink?
joe rogan
Yeah, but I don't.
I haven't drank in a long time, but I will.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, I'll have a glass of wine.
But it's been like, it was many months before I had anything.
And then I had like a margarita.
And I was like, okay.
jordan jensen
And you felt.
joe rogan
Nothing.
I mean, I didn't do it because I was an alcoholic.
I did it because it's bad for you.
I was like, why am I doing this?
Because I drink at my club.
I'll have a couple of drinks at the club a couple nights a week.
And then I'll go out with my wife, have a drink or two.
And then maybe I'll do a podcast with someone who wants to have a drink.
And so we'll have like a little whiskey, clink glasses, and we're talking, get a little tipsy.
After a while, you're like, you're poisoning yourself.
You're drinking seven, 10, 15, 15 drinks in a week.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, that's not good.
And then I stopped and I was like, oh my God, it feels so much better.
And then I felt stupid.
I felt stupid for not doing it.
jordan jensen
I did the same thing.
I'm a sugar addict and a love addict.
I'm not an alcoholic, but I was like, I can't, I can't be having extra sugar where I'm not, where I don't need it because I'm eating so much candy.
joe rogan
So you got off the alcohol because of the sugar.
jordan jensen
I had to choose.
I was like, it's Swedish fish or alcohol.
I had to make the decision.
And I was puffy all the time.
I couldn't stand the little puff.
joe rogan
That's not good either.
Yeah, the puffy's bad.
jordan jensen
And then you have a glass of wine because you're like, I can treat it.
And I'd be like, just like fully retarded.
joe rogan
Instantly, right?
Yeah, because your body's not used to it.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
And so I was like, well, this isn't that fun either.
So I'll just not do it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think a lot of people more now than I think ever before are abstaining from alcohol.
There was just a study recently about young people about alcohol consumption in young people is down by what was the number?
I think it's something crazy, like 25%.
jordan jensen
Well, it's because they're not having sex.
unidentified
Is that what it is?
jordan jensen
I mean, Gen Z. I need to touch this thing.
joe rogan
You need to touch that.
That's Harlan Williams snake.
jordan jensen
I love Harlan Williams so much.
joe rogan
I love him too.
It was on the table when Trump was here and he got so happy that his snake.
So he had that snake in his pants the entire time he was doing a podcast and he told me that he got a tapeworm and then he named his tapeworm Dimitri.
And I'm like, you have a worm?
Yeah, I got a worm.
I picked it up.
Like, it just, you know, it was a gag.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And at the end, he pulled, he's like, oh, the worm's coming out.
And like, ah, it reaches into his hand.
unidentified
He had it the whole time.
jordan jensen
The whole time.
joe rogan
He pulls out this fucking snake and he puts it on the table and it's been there ever since.
So when I had Trump on the podcast, he was so happy that Dimitri the snake was on the table.
jordan jensen
His pants, his little snake pants.
That's awesome.
That's such a look at this.
That's crazy.
I love that.
Dude, Harlan was talking to us about Rocket Man and how they didn't put out Rocketman because there's a song in it where he imitates being Chinese.
Like he does it with everybody.
He does it with German where he's like, I lazy la liben in the world.
And then he does a Chinese accent where he's like, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
And they just like buried it.
Like it, that came out with Tarzan.
And they buried the shit out of Rocket Man and let Tarzan like take the.
And I was like, I looked it up.
Tarzan is like based off seriously racist original story.
joe rogan
Was it really?
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Which is so interesting.
Like Rockani.
unidentified
Edgar Rice Burroughs, the original Tarzan?
jordan jensen
Was it Tarzan?
unidentified
Was it Edgar Rice Burroughs?
jordan jensen
Is Tarzan the one where it's like, and we'll be?
Yeah, yeah.
Tarzan, look up Tarzan Racist Ties.
It is there.
joe rogan
So from the original book?
jordan jensen
I think so, yeah.
Like the original original.
joe rogan
Well, it was old.
It was old.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
A white guy who lives with the chimpanzee and figures it out.
He lives with the apes, becomes a king, of course.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but I think even before then, it was more racist.
I mean, this was a Google.
This could have been one of the things.
joe rogan
I don't think I've ever read it.
I think I've read the comic books.
I've seen the movies.
I don't think I ever read Tarzan, the Edgar Rice Burroughs novel.
jordan jensen
No, I haven't read that either.
I think this was pre-that, though.
But this could have been me googling and finding it and being like, see, but Rocket Man getting buried.
Rocket Man's so good.
And if I had seen that as a kid, I would have been so stoked.
joe rogan
So it's one of Harlan's comedies.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah.
His first.
joe rogan
Okay.
jordan jensen
So it's his first movie, and he's so goofy in it, but he does all these voices for different nationalities.
And at one point, he does Chinese.
And it's such a funny scene.
joe rogan
1997.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
jordan jensen
Did you find?
joe rogan
I don't think anything I knew about that movie.
jordan jensen
I didn't know about it either, but we had Harlan on the pod, and Ian was like, I'm obsessed with this movie.
So then me and Ian watched it, and it's like the best.
It's like exactly what you want your kid to see.
It's like a doofus who makes it as an astronaut because he's smart in his own movie.
joe rogan
But they fucked up with the Chinese thing, huh?
It was the one accent that you can't make fun of.
jordan jensen
One accent.
He did all the other accents.
unidentified
So weird.
jordan jensen
I don't get that.
Why is that the one?
joe rogan
We live in a bizarro time.
jordan jensen
It's very weird.
joe rogan
It's a very weird time.
jordan jensen
It's also funny because Disney was like, yeah, the scene goes in.
We approve it.
And then, and then they're like, wait, actually, it's not, that's fucked up.
joe rogan
Well, you know, people approve dumb shit all the time.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
unidentified
Fear Factor, they improve people drinking cum.
joe rogan
And that's about the showcase.
unidentified
Yeah, they're not.
joe rogan
Dude, I was obsessed with.
jordan jensen
I was about to say, did you ever watch it again?
I'm like, you're on it.
But those people do not.
I used to think they were like hot people.
unidentified
They're like trash, a little trash.
jordan jensen
Like growing up when I was watching it, I was like, oh my God, I want to grow up to look like her.
And then I look back and I'm like, this is White Dread's crazy lunatics.
I was obsessed with that show.
joe rogan
Well, they made him drink cum.
jordan jensen
But wasn't a bowl cum?
joe rogan
It was Donkey.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah, Donkey Cummings.
joe rogan
Donkey Cum and Donkey Urine.
They had to play horseshoes to see how much Donkey Cum and Donkey Urine.
jordan jensen
Did they say cum?
joe rogan
Oh, sperm.
I think we said sperm.
jordan jensen
No, and they aired it?
joe rogan
Well, not really.
See, that's what got me.
jordan jensen
Imagine drinking the cum and not having your episode air.
joe rogan
No.
People drank the cum and didn't win.
jordan jensen
The cum is not a problem for me.
I would have drank the cum.
joe rogan
It would be more of a problem.
jordan jensen
Urine, fine.
For me, it was the spiders in the mouth.
joe rogan
The gals chose the urine over the cum or cup or the cum rather over the urine.
But you guys would rather get it.
jordan jensen
It's hilarious to think it's gay.
unidentified
Donkey Juice.
joe rogan
The episode's called Donkey Juice.
But I don't know if that's really what it's called.
See, the thing is, it never aired.
I think Donkey Juice was like the internal name for the episode or the stunt.
But so it did air in other countries, though.
That's why you can still watch it on YouTube.
Because it aired in, I think it aired Denmark or some shit.
jordan jensen
They had to just jerk off a bunch of donkeys.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
How did they get the cum?
I used to add a bit about it in my act.
They take a prod and they shove it up the donkey's ass and they shock their prostate.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They just bust.
unidentified
They love that shit.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
That is donkey rape.
joe rogan
It's more than that.
It's kind of alien.
You're an alien abducting this donkey and forcing it to come.
jordan jensen
That's brutal.
joe rogan
I know.
With electro shock.
unidentified
Oh my god.
joe rogan
And then, you know, they got like a tube in the end where they're collecting it all.
jordan jensen
For a show.
That's cool.
joe rogan
We had buckets of it.
jordan jensen
And the donkeys.
joe rogan
How many donkeys got jacked off because there was buckets of it.
unidentified
No, no.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
You know what?
jordan jensen
I always assumed that was fake.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
It was super real.
Right.
100%.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
That's crazy.
joe rogan
There's laws.
Like, there's laws, which was really good because, like, people say, how do I get on Fear Factor?
Like, if you've ever met me, you can't get on the show, so you can't talk to me about it.
If you want to get on the show, you can't talk to me right now.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it will get me out of conversation.
jordan jensen
That's good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Nice.
jordan jensen
That's really good.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because I can't help anybody get on the show.
But there's laws.
Like, you can't say it's Donkey Come when it's not Donkey Come.
It is come.
You're drinking come.
Yeah.
Otherwise, your show's not a game show anymore.
jordan jensen
How'd they get all that stuff?
All the worms.
So many worms.
joe rogan
Farms.
Worm farms.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah, for baits.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then cockroach farms with the people that eat cockroaches.
You had to put them on a specific diet for X amount of time before they're allowed to be consumed by all of them.
unidentified
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
You can't just have them eating garbage and rotten meat.
jordan jensen
And the spiders in the mouth where they were climbing out.
That was the one that me and my sister would watch to torture ourselves.
Where they couldn't get the spider in the mouth because it was climbing out.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was brutal.
Ridiculous show.
I literally signed up for it because I thought it was going to be canceled immediately and I'd have a lot of material.
jordan jensen
Were you able to tell jokes on it?
unidentified
No.
jordan jensen
No, that limited the shinetti?
joe rogan
No, if I said something that they thought was controversial, most of the time they would edit it out.
jordan jensen
Did Jackass come after Fear Factor?
joe rogan
No, I think it was before.
jamie vernon
I think it was like during, I guess.
joe rogan
Was it?
jamie vernon
I think so.
joe rogan
Okay.
I was obsessed with it.
The first one was Survivor.
Survivor was the first one on TV where you're like, yo, which is still on the air, which is crazy.
jordan jensen
That is good.
I thought the Osbournes.
joe rogan
Well, that was a reality show.
There was ones before that, right?
There was Totally Polly.
That was kind of a reality show.
Okay, okay.
jordan jensen
Totally Polly.
Was that Polly Polychoor?
joe rogan
Poly Shore.
Yeah.
He had like a very famous MTV reality show.
Very Totally Paul.
jordan jensen
Where you just fucked around?
joe rogan
Just traveled around, met people.
It's a reality show.
But like, I'm not wrong, right?
Wasn't Survivor the first one of those kind of shows?
jamie vernon
A game show?
joe rogan
No, you know, like a game show, but a reality show.
Reality game.
Reality game show.
jamie vernon
I think so.
I mean, it definitely caught.
There was that wave.
That came out around the same year as American Idol.
joe rogan
What year did Survivor start?
jamie vernon
I think it's like 90.
I was in high school.
I'll check, but it's like 2000-ish, 99, 2000.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So Survivor was the first one.
That was the big one.
I just can't believe it's still in the air.
That's nuts.
jordan jensen
Was Fear Factor 2000.
jamie vernon
May 31st, 2000.
joe rogan
Oh, so it was only like a year before Fear Factor because Fear Factor started in 2001.
They're going to do a new one now.
Who the hell is hosting it?
jamie vernon
I saw that.
jordan jensen
Wait.
joe rogan
Johnny Knoxville.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Survivor?
joe rogan
It comes full circle.
No, Fear Factor.
I think there's a new Fear Factor that Johnny Knoxville's going to host.
jordan jensen
That's awesome.
joe rogan
So it all comes full circle.
jordan jensen
And you hated it?
joe rogan
No.
No, I didn't hate it.
It's just like, it was a job.
jordan jensen
You were really sweet to the people.
joe rogan
I was trying to be.
jordan jensen
You were very nice to them.
joe rogan
I was trying to be nice.
jordan jensen
I remember being like, that's a comforting.
You'd be a good acid person at Trip Acid.
You know what I mean?
Maybe that's how, maybe that's how you got good at.
I mean, that's the fucked up trip to be like, you're going to put these fucking things in your mouth.
joe rogan
There's that, but I would also, some people would be scared to do a stunt, and I'd be like, look.
jordan jensen
We have to make money.
joe rogan
You 100% can do this.
You know, people that have never really completely challenged themselves are not sure of where their boundaries lie and they get really scared when something new and crazy is about to happen.
They get overwhelmed by anxiety.
And you can get them and go, hey, hey, listen to me.
You know, that voice in your head telling you not to do this?
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fuck that voice.
You can do this.
And when you get done, you're going to be so happy.
You're going to be so happy.
But you just have to do it.
It's not going to be nearly as bad as you think it is.
Just force yourself to do it and you can do it.
jordan jensen
And they would do it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
When I was a kid, from the time I was like 15 years old, I was teaching martial arts.
So I'm used to coaching people.
I bring people to tournaments and people that were scared and they were going to have to fight and compete.
And I would coach them.
jordan jensen
In the corner?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
jordan jensen
I just went to the Serano Katie Taylor.
joe rogan
Oh, did you really?
It's a great fight.
jordan jensen
Dude, I have, can I say I am straight as they come, but Katie Taylor, man.
joe rogan
You'd get some of that?
jordan jensen
Dude, I just think she's the most attractive woman.
The way she goes, and I fight for the Lord.
And she's like, dude, when they're all fucking brain fucked afterwards, and she's like, I just want to go ahead and thank everybody for coming out.
Number one my and you're like, nobody knows what you're saying.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
The brain damage, though, is crazy.
I box and I am not.
joe rogan
You still box?
jordan jensen
Yeah, I box, but I don't.
I mean, when my trainer is in town, but even sparring, I'm like, we got to do this occasionally because I'm fucking fucked up afterwards.
joe rogan
Yeah, I have friends that still spar.
I'm like, stop doing that.
jordan jensen
Yeah, a lot of people aren't sparring at all.
They just fight.
joe rogan
That's rare.
Most fighters spar.
There's a few that don't.
Like Max Holloway for a while wasn't sparring because he was trying to preserve himself for fights.
But then when he had to fight Dustin Porter, or when he had Justin Gaetchy, I think it was.
With Justin Gaetchy, like, I got to start sparring again because I'm going to fight someone who's really dangerous.
You can't have any.
jordan jensen
It's just so, when you start, when I started boxing, I was like, I'm never going to spar.
That's crazy.
And then like a month in, I was like, so addicted.
And it was so much fun.
It felt like you were training so that you could spar.
joe rogan
It is fun to do.
jordan jensen
And then I would do a podcast and be like, oh, Maish.
unidentified
And I'd be like, oh, I can't do that.
jordan jensen
We can't do that.
And you listen to Serrano and Katie when they're like fighting in those like press conferences.
And it sounds like two drunk kids.
Like they're like, no, she fucking said that we were going to, and you're like, this is, I cannot be doing that.
joe rogan
Well, the real rough one is when you talk to guys that are in like their 50s and they've been retired for years and they're slurring their words.
You barely understand what they're saying.
unidentified
You're like, fuck.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
And they have so much money, but what do they?
joe rogan
Well, some of them don't even have the money anymore.
Usually they go through a few divorces because they're crazy.
No one can stay with them.
They're out of their fucking mind.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, and they're probably alcoholics because their brain's completely shattered.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Do they get, do men get more aggressive when they get brain damage?
Yeah.
joe rogan
They definitely can.
It depends entirely on the individual.
jordan jensen
Like do women get CT?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, 100%.
Yeah, they can get aggressive too.
Really?
They get real impulsive, men and women that have brain damage.
They get impulsive.
They can't control their instincts, their impulses rather.
They have addiction problems because they feel off, right?
So they want to drink alcohol to get to calm down or do cocaine.
A lot of them wind up doing Coke.
jordan jensen
To feel up because they're fried.
joe rogan
You're fried.
Your brain's cooked.
Your endocrine system's all fucked up.
Your pituitary glands have been bouncing around inside your fucking skull.
jordan jensen
Is your brain fucked?
joe rogan
Yeah, like just the right amount.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When did you stop?
joe rogan
Well, I stopped fighting when I was 22, I think was one of my last fights.
And I stopped sparring when I was like 27 or 28.
jordan jensen
Oh, good.
So you had the dummy.
joe rogan
I did a little bit of sparring later when I was in my third.
jordan jensen
Do you do jiu-jitsu?
joe rogan
You do jiu-jitsu?
jordan jensen
Do you grapple with it?
joe rogan
But yeah, but that, the brain damage you get from that is rare.
It's not.
jordan jensen
Maybe I should do that.
My mom always tells me that.
joe rogan
Kim Condon does it.
Ask her about it.
jordan jensen
Okay.
I just, the boxing, the hitting.
joe rogan
Yeah, don't do that.
jordan jensen
But I like, but even just training with mitts, I have such a rage issue that beating the shit out of something feels.
Even when I go to the gym and just beat the shit out of the bag, I feel so much better.
joe rogan
It's super good for you.
There's nothing better to relieve stress than hitting the bag.
It's the best.
Don't stop doing that.
I mean, definitely keep hitting pads, but don't get any brain damage.
jordan jensen
You know what I'm worried about, jiu-jitsu?
unidentified
What?
jordan jensen
The fainting.
joe rogan
Because it's going to get choked out.
You're just going to black out the moment someone even comes close to choking you.
jordan jensen
Yeah, if anybody does something to my wrist, any arteries.
joe rogan
Stuck in a triangle.
You're just going to fall slowly.
jordan jensen
And they're going to be like, I did a good job.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Totally.
I have friends that do it and they're like, yeah.
And then my bone was up against mine.
I'm like, I'm done.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Talk to Kim.
It is rough, but it's super addictive.
Once you do it and you get used to it, it's very addictive.
jordan jensen
It's addictive because it's a puzzle.
joe rogan
It's a game.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're playing a game and you get better at the game the more you play it.
And you know, the game is get somebody in an arm bar.
jordan jensen
Right, but the arm bar is, all of it is slightly representing breaking them, right?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
jordan jensen
Yeah, that makes me nice.
You have to tap.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
You have to tap so your arm doesn't get broken.
jordan jensen
The idea of overextending somebody's body part is brutal.
joe rogan
It is brutal.
jordan jensen
That's so gross.
joe rogan
It's gross.
jordan jensen
But it's very, but I think that's.
joe rogan
It's a useful skill.
Very useful skill.
jordan jensen
I know.
But the boxing is just bam.
unidentified
That's useful too.
jordan jensen
Breaking somebody's nose I could do, but he couldn't break their arm.
I could not.
No, the idea of like bone coming through.
Crazy.
joe rogan
Choke them.
Put them to sleep.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
Have you put you put a lot of people to sleep?
joe rogan
Not a lot of people.
jordan jensen
Is it a good feeling to be put to sleep?
joe rogan
I don't know.
jordan jensen
You've never been put to sleep?
joe rogan
No, I've never been put to sleep.
No.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
No.
jordan jensen
Are you scared to be put asleep?
joe rogan
No.
No, I just tap when I know I'm a bunch of people.
jordan jensen
Right, right, right, right.
Your body probably taps.
joe rogan
No, you tap.
jordan jensen
I know, but you probably, you're instinct, like even if you're like, put me to sleep, you'd still probably be like, no, actually, though.
joe rogan
No, you got to know, like, when you're going.
Right.
So, like, if you're getting choked, if like someone's got my back and they've got to choke in, there's a point in time where I know I'm not getting out of this.
You just tap.
jordan jensen
It's smart.
joe rogan
It's stupid to fight it off because you get injured.
And then you wind up being really fucked up.
jordan jensen
I love watching MMA.
joe rogan
Do you?
jordan jensen
Yeah, when they jump on their backs like that, when they go full monkey style, it's like, yes, dude.
joe rogan
Have you ever been to it live?
jordan jensen
No, just that fight.
It was a big deal.
I went.
Netflix took me, thank you.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, but that's a boxing match.
You should go to a UFC live.
It's bananas.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's bananas.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
I loved going to the Sorrano match.
joe rogan
Are you at the club this weekend?
jordan jensen
Who's at the...
No, I'm in Rochester this weekend.
joe rogan
Oh, cool.
There's a UFC.
I was going to say there's a UFC in San Antonio on Saturday night.
jordan jensen
I'll go in New York for sure.
joe rogan
When it's in New York?
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
I'll get you tickets.
It's going to be in Madison Square Garden in November.
jordan jensen
I'll go.
joe rogan
If you're going to be around.
Okay.
jordan jensen
That'd be so sick.
Oh, my God.
I'm going to wear a fur coat.
joe rogan
Yeah, you'll love it.
And seeing it in the garden is kind of special.
jordan jensen
Yeah, where were we?
Oh, they were in the garden, Soronto.
No, yes.
unidentified
Were they?
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
The big room or the smaller room?
unidentified
Big.
jordan jensen
Sold it out.
joe rogan
Wow.
jordan jensen
Toronto made 14 mil or something.
I mean, they made it.
joe rogan
That's great.
jordan jensen
Isn't that great?
joe rogan
That's awesome.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
And the fucking, the card was incredible watching them.
joe rogan
Madison Square Garden has got a lot of energy in that room, too.
There's something crazy about that room.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just like the amount of concerts and fights and events that have taken place and that you feel it in the building when you walk in.
You walk in, you're like, whoa.
jordan jensen
It's intense.
joe rogan
This place is alive.
jordan jensen
It's awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like when you go to a new arena and they're brand new and you walk in the door and it's empty and you're wandering around like, wow, cool place.
But you walk in the garden, you're like, yo, this place is alive.
It's got memories in here.
jordan jensen
The other ones feel like racquetball.
Like you could, you know what I mean?
Like you could hit a racquetball around in one.
It's like they're the stage because I've done arenas with Tom Bottom Segora and you can definitely feel the ones that have like been there versus the ones that they put up recently.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, they have history.
History is burned into buildings.
jordan jensen
I'm so bad at rotating.
joe rogan
Oh, it's weird.
It's so weird.
It's the best way, though, because it's the only way you can do an arena where it's intimate.
So what we're talking about is a stage that's round.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah, in the round.
joe rogan
In the round.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
It's Tom was like, just say a joke, then pivot.
But every time I get up there, and I'd be like, here's my joke.
I'm going to turn to these people now.
And I would turn every single time.
joe rogan
That's funny, though.
jordan jensen
Yeah, it was totally great.
But I couldn't do the like natural rotation.
joe rogan
The good thing about it is, though, it makes the show intimate, even though there's 16,000 people there.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because there's people on this side facing people on the other side.
So everybody realizes they're all in it together.
jordan jensen
And the Jumbotron.
I mean, my Netflix special is shot.
I was like, wherever your camera is, shove it the fuck up my nose.
Like, I'm so sick of seeing specials where I'm watching their whole body the whole time.
Like, show my face because my facial movements are like half of my joke.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
And in the arena, you get that.
Like, I remember watching Louie at the Hulu at the Hulu theater, and it was just the fucking jumbotron.
So you saw every little movement he was making.
And I was like, that's so sick because it's so, in a club, you see that.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And that's what you want to see, especially if you're looking at it on the screen, which is weird.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
And then sometimes you watch somebody and you're like, I should just have gone home and watched this because then I would see their face.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
But the jumbotron fucking nails you and it's so sick.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that's the good thing about the round too.
You could have your back to them and they totally could still see your face.
jordan jensen
You know, but I'm always worried about my butt.
unidentified
It's crazy.
jordan jensen
I want like a trench coat or something.
joe rogan
Wear a trench coat.
Do you like it like what Kinnison used to do?
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Kinnison used to wear a trench coat.
jordan jensen
I can go Trinity, Trinity from Matrix.
joe rogan
Yeah, my icon.
unidentified
There you go.
jordan jensen
I'm obsessed with Trinity.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Did you ever hear that lady that claims that she wrote The Matrix and they stole the idea from her?
jordan jensen
Dude, anime wrote that fucking shit.
That shit is like ancient as hell.
jamie vernon
It's inner and Matrix.
joe rogan
It's both of them.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
She says she wrote both of them.
Yeah.
Is there any credibility to what she says?
We don't know.
jordan jensen
I had a joke about The Matrix that people were upset about where I was upset that the Wukowski sisters were in the top 10 female directors.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
Are they really?
jordan jensen
Yeah, because I was like, if they had come into, say they had come into MGM as sisters being like, we want to pitch a movie.
Like in the 90s, like we want to pitch a movie.
It's about a guy and he's in a simulation.
They'd be like, how about you simulate my dick in your mouth?
You know what I mean?
And it's not like anti-anything, but people still got mad.
But yeah, that joke is, that was one of my favorites for a while because I'm obsessed with The Matrix.
It's my favorite movie.
joe rogan
That's a great movie, and I think we're about to literally live it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
We're real close.
jordan jensen
I'm in the camp that everybody thinks I'm fully retarded.
They just told me a lot on Twitter that AI is going to help things, not hurt things.
I would like the record to state that this is my theory because I think it's going to be proved right.
joe rogan
You think that AI is going to help people, not hurt things?
jordan jensen
Yes.
joe rogan
Oh, that's interesting.
How do you think that that's going to happen?
jordan jensen
I just think that the whole catastrophic this is going to be an entity that ends all of us.
I don't think it's going to do that.
I think that maybe I'm just looking at the positive side, but I think it's such a smart piece of technology that was so in the works the whole time to be made that it's going to help us solve problems.
Like, I think humanity has been trying to create somebody that can work on a supercomputer level to solve problems faster and more efficiently.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's definitely the best case scenario use for it.
jordan jensen
Right, but the corporations are evil.
joe rogan
Yeah, the problem is they're already, they've already shown that these large language models can be programmed with ideology, right?
So, did you ever see the disaster they had with Google Gemini when they first launched it, where they said, show us images of Nazi soldiers, and they had multiracial Nazi soldiers.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like an Asian woman was a Nazi soldier, a black woman, an Indian, they had a Native American lady who was a Nazi.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's not real.
Okay, so your ideology, by making everything diverse, you've distorted history.
Like, so your ideology interfered with truth.
Okay.
jordan jensen
But I mean, we do that when we take down all the statues.
joe rogan
Right, but we're not supposed to be this large language model.
This large language model is supposed to be eventually super intelligence in artificial form, right?
So a super intelligence wouldn't do that.
It would know that Nazis were German and they were, you know.
jamie vernon
It wasn't Nazi that they asked for.
They asked for German soldiers and then it gave people in color, which 1943, which would have been Nazi soldiers.
joe rogan
Yeah, why are you getting all technical?
jamie vernon
Well, that's, I mean, you're asking another large language model to do something.
joe rogan
I know, but it did show German soldiers that were wearing Nazi swastikas that were multiracial.
jamie vernon
I'm just saying it didn't, it didn't, the question would have to be specific when you're talking about these things.
joe rogan
Okay, that's why German soldier, which happened to be Nazi.
jamie vernon
I was trying to put that music stuff all night, and you have to be very specific when you want to say that.
jordan jensen
I don't think there's any possibility that it could be something that we have control over, not control, that we have control over, and we use it for, like, don't you think we've always been scared about everything about science, about microscopes, about social media?
joe rogan
The printing press?
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, they were terrified when people first developed trains.
They thought people's bodies were going to explode if they went over 35 miles an hour.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
It's just this is the human error removed is sick, dude.
Those Waymo cars are sick.
The doctors using ChatGPT, they're doing such a better job.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, there's definitely a lot of pluses.
The problem is control.
It's always the problem.
And every person that has an enormous amount of power should be carefully scrutinized.
And the kind of power that you're going to have if you are in control of essentially a digital god, like it becomes a problem when human beings are involved.
Now, if they become completely autonomous, then you have a problem with us being irrelevant.
jordan jensen
But that's what I'm talking about, that situation where they become autonomous.
That's what I'm referring to.
So say we have an autonomous entity.
Why would it kill us?
We don't go.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Well, I'm not saying it would.
I don't think it would.
I don't think it would kill us, but it would probably give us incentive to not breed, which I think if I was an intelligent life force, I would kind of do it exactly the way our society is already going.
jordan jensen
Yeah, we're already doing it.
joe rogan
Like right now.
We're doing it to ourselves, but that might be by design.
It's my point.
It might be that in order to not alarm us, that this artificial intelligence has engineered our diet and our environment to kill our reproductive system.
And it's already doing it, but it's doing it in a very innocuous way with microplastics and a bunch of, it's doing it in a way where we don't even know what's happening.
And it's just happening.
jordan jensen
On the same coin, it could be like, hey, what if we actually perpetuated the species and got it back to life like the pandas?
joe rogan
I don't think that's going to happen.
I think what's going to happen is we're going to become hybrids.
We're going to become a cyborg, like a real legitimate cyborg.
jordan jensen
I'm stoked about that.
joe rogan
Are you?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You'd be first in the line.
jordan jensen
Oh, my God.
Give me the freaking parts.
I faint at blood.
No more blood.
unidentified
Make me a cyborg.
jordan jensen
I'm happy.
I love metal.
I love scrap metal.
I love cars.
Make me a fucking car, dude.
I hate this gooey thing.
joe rogan
I don't know what's going to happen, but I do know it's going to be unprecedented.
It's going to be a new thing.
jordan jensen
I'm surprised.
The one thing that did freak me out is a guy the other day at a bachelorette party had the goggles on that was recording us.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
jordan jensen
When I realized that, when I was like, oh, shit, AI is going to take in all of the information.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There's a lot of people wearing the metal glasses everywhere, which is like, at one point, you're like, oh, well, it's cool, new technology.
Another thing you're like, but yeah, but people probably don't even fucking know they're getting recorded, and that's kind of crazy.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's kind of weird.
jordan jensen
Well, also, I don't like the idea of all these digital images of things.
Like, if they, if it could be printed out into matter and you could look at it, but the idea of like your entire life, like even us with the fucking iPhones, all these photos stressed me the fuck out, dude.
unidentified
Why?
jordan jensen
Because it's so much, because there's something about it, because it, when you have a photo, you're in the present with a past photo, right?
Like, I'm sitting here in this reality with a past reality that I can hold.
The weird giant vortex of memory is almost like my vortex of memory.
You know what I mean?
Like, neither of them have matter.
My memory in my brain and this brain here.
I don't like that.
I think that I want the memory to be contained in matter or in my memory.
I don't like this being a brain.
And I don't like it holding pictures of all of my past.
joe rogan
Well, I think when you say I want to be a cyborg, you're going to hold all of it.
And you're going to have a hard drive.
So instead of having a memory where it's followable right now, like your memory is like weird.
Like, when did we do that?
Was that in November?
Oh, my God.
That was November?
You'll have an actual memory just like you have on your phone where you can go back to like four years, you know, like, you know, like it suggests you on this day and you go to like 2017, like, oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
They're so young.
Oh, my God.
Look.
jordan jensen
That would feel less disembodied than this fucking weird unit that we're all addicted to.
You know what I mean?
It's already a part of us.
It's so weird that it's just man and unit everywhere.
joe rogan
The unit you could just put down.
jordan jensen
You think it'll be.
joe rogan
You could put the unit down.
jordan jensen
You think we're going to be cyborgs like it's going to be.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Like human beings will have a chip in their brain that anytime I'm like, what year was that?
joe rogan
It might not even be a chip.
It might be a wearable.
jordan jensen
We can put down.
joe rogan
They might be able to have something that you put on the top of your head, you know, with electrodes that touch your temples and it just sends signals into your brain and works from there.
I mean, who knows?
It's so cutting edge.
And then once AI gets into the picture, right?
And AI, if you get sentient AI and you get AI that understands like how human neurotransmitters work and what to stimulate, what not to stimulate, might devise ideas that we never even anticipated in terms of like how to implement this technology and it'll probably figure out how to make it better.
And then it'll be off to the races.
jordan jensen
I was so scared today because I texted my friend Suicidal.
Like she texts me about something and I wrote like tongue in cheek, I'm suicidal, right?
Like I'm not actually, but I wrote it.
And I was like, shit, my phone is now going to send me so many fucking don't kill yourself stuff.
joe rogan
Does it do that?
jordan jensen
Yeah, dude.
Every time I text some shit like that, I'll go on Instagram and it'll be like, don't do this.
Seek help, blah, blah, blah.
joe rogan
That's what's creepy is that your fucking Instagram knows what you're texting to your friends.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
I've had two people recently be like, do you ever think it like, like sometimes I'll think a thought and an ad will come up.
joe rogan
That's coming.
jordan jensen
And two people in one week said that to me.
joe rogan
Yeah, but doesn't that just mean it's a coincidence?
That means you're relying on coincidence.
jamie vernon
Watch this thing I sent you yesterday.
joe rogan
I didn't.
What is it?
jamie vernon
All right.
So this got announced yesterday.
They do not describe it.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, I did.
I did.
I forgot.
Yeah, go ahead.
jamie vernon
It allows telepathic communication in some way with a headset.
They're clearly connected to something and they don't show that, but these two guys start talking.
jordan jensen
Those guys aren't real.
unidentified
Oh, there we are.
jamie vernon
Oh, sorry.
joe rogan
Why does it have...
What's this music?
Some other sound is playing.
Oh.
jamie vernon
He's a dog.
joe rogan
Oh, the Apple Vision.
jamie vernon
So this one is actually translated.
Let me go back to these two guys just talking.
jordan jensen
No, wait, these guys just have the telepathy tapes auto-speaking.
jamie vernon
It's showing like they're trying to have a communication about food.
They're not speaking.
It's really hard to hear this.
unidentified
That's crazy.
jamie vernon
He describes that you could be in a party and both have the headset on.
And think words.
jordan jensen
All right, these fuckers have to be stopped.
This is too crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, now you're different, right?
jordan jensen
Yeah, that's not okay.
joe rogan
I like a swing one way or the other.
jordan jensen
No, that's not that, dude.
unidentified
These dorks, these dorks in fucking coffee shops.
joe rogan
I use my alter ego to go give you a travel tip.
jamie vernon
It translates that into Hindi.
So it starts off in English, which is at the Hindi.
Whoa.
And the weird thing, which was you guys just described, they don't talk about how this works yet.
They literally just put up a video on Twitter yesterday.
Like, if you want more information, go to our website.
And so you're describing like if they have a way to get brain waves in some way.
jordan jensen
All right.
Yeah, I'm out on this.
jamie vernon
I'm out on this.
jordan jensen
Especially when I see the kids that are doing it.
I'm like, these kids are just fucking thorks who are getting so far.
joe rogan
They're going to look like aliens.
jordan jensen
This isn't like the agents from the Matrix.
joe rogan
People with big heads.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what's going to happen.
jordan jensen
But if it was the agents from the Matrix, like some attractive men in, you know, sunglasses and suits, I'd be like, okay, what you guys have planned is probably better than reality.
unidentified
But those fucking thorks being like, this is what we're doing now.
joe rogan
I think no matter what we do, technology is going to keep moving.
No matter what we do.
China's going to do it.
Russia's going to do it.
Everybody with power is going to do it.
Anybody that has the resources, they're going to keep pushing this technology.
And if you just think, where's it going?
Well, it's going in that direction.
You're going to become a part of some fucking giant hive mind.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
We're all going to be sharing thoughts together and some bizarre buzz of information that we all suck from.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's going to be real weird.
jordan jensen
It is going to be weird, but then you could have the unpluggers, which would be nice.
joe rogan
Well, that's what it's going to be when you go to the club and you put your phone in the yonder bag.
You talk some shit.
Do stand up.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
But I think it's one of the reasons why people love going to a comedy club now.
And especially when you make them put their phone in the yonder bags.
jordan jensen
Because it's a game changer.
joe rogan
Oh, that's everything.
You could actually pay attention.
You actually focus.
You're there.
You're living in the present moment instead of constantly checking your tweets.
People, you know, it's an addiction, man, and it's a new one, right?
It's one that didn't exist for our parents.
They never had to deal with it.
And we're growing up with this very bizarre connection to the whole world.
And a lot of it's negative.
A lot of it's not.
And it's also manipulated.
A lot of it's bots.
jordan jensen
I guess I'm hoping it also gets so bad it gets better.
Like I'm hoping that, not to use the Matrix again, that there will be a point where you can be like, I'm disconnecting for everything.
Whereas right now it feels like we have to engage with it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Like it would be nice to get to a point where it's like a, oh, are you on or off?
I'm off.
And you're like, oh, okay, I won't try.
unidentified
Do you ever just disconnect your house?
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Totally.
It disappears.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's good.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
And I just put this healthy.
I have like a safe where I lock my phone.
joe rogan
Good for you.
jordan jensen
That's my phone and lock candy.
joe rogan
Candy and your phone, the same.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's harder?
Candy or the phone?
jordan jensen
Candy.
joe rogan
Yeah, of course.
jordan jensen
Fuck the phone.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Candy rules, dude.
Candy's so good.
The phone sucks.
It stresses me out.
joe rogan
Little candy fishes.
jordan jensen
Those are my favorite Swedish fish.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
I just had a real one from Swedish.
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Most of them forgeries?
jordan jensen
The fake, the red ones?
joe rogan
This fake Swedish fish?
jordan jensen
Those are American bullshit.
The Swedish fish are black.
unidentified
No.
jordan jensen
From Sweden?
joe rogan
Really?
Interesting.
It probably doesn't have our nasty chemicals for the dyes.
jordan jensen
Yeah, the Red 40.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Is RFK against Red 40?
joe rogan
I think so.
jordan jensen
Dude, it's so funny watching RFK go through the lesbian moms that I have.
Like, you know, because they're so liberal.
So they're like, fuck RFK.
And then at one point, he's like, I want to bring back raw milk.
And I said to watch my entire town of Ithaca be like, wow, we do love raw milk.
We actually like that quite a bit because they're like right now siphoning raw milk illegally off of farms.
joe rogan
It's so silly that raw milk is illegal and you go buy whiskey at Costco.
jordan jensen
That's so weird.
joe rogan
So dumb.
jordan jensen
Raw milk is so good.
joe rogan
It's really good.
jordan jensen
Francis Ellis is all about the raw cheese and milk.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's good for you.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And for a lot of people that have lactose intolerance.
jordan jensen
Oh, not Francis Ellis.
Jason Ellis.
Francis Ellis is a different kind of.
joe rogan
Oh, Jason Ellis, the comedian.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah.
Francis Ellis is a comedian, but he's way more into rotistry chickens.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's really good for you.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just don't get it bad.
Don't get it where it's going to be.
jordan jensen
And then what happens?
unidentified
You just have a bug or probably get fucking ranted diarrhea.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but whatever.
Better than a fucking cancer.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I think your body, when it's homogenized and pasteurized, it's like, what is this?
With no enzymes.
What is this water protein you're making me drink that I'm going to fart out?
jordan jensen
Yeah.
I bet we could drink endless raw milk.
I bet we could really go ham on raw milk and cheese.
jamie vernon
Hmm.
Swedish fish is a taste supposed to be called a lingonberry.
joe rogan
A lingonberry.
jamie vernon
But that black, the black stuff is a different kind.
It's called Solmiak, which is black salted licorice and stuff.
That shit is good.
joe rogan
Like that?
Is that your shit?
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Ammonium chloride.
joe rogan
Ammonium chloride.
jordan jensen
Nice.
jamie vernon
Probably not better than Red 40.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, let's Google ammonium chloride.
jordan jensen
We assume everything Northern countries do is better.
joe rogan
I know, right?
jordan jensen
It's crazy.
jamie vernon
We assume.
jordan jensen
They'll be in the audience and I'll be like, oh, you think you're better than me?
And they're like, no, we really like you.
joe rogan
White crystalline water-soluble salt.
Oh, formed from ammonia and hydrogen chloride used primarily as a fertilizer.
An expectorant in cold medications and a component in soldering and galvanizing fluxes to clean metal surfaces.
Also found in dry cell batteries, such as a flavoring agent in its natural form.
It's called salamoniac.
jamie vernon
I'm sure it's delicious.
jordan jensen
Oh, it's good.
joe rogan
Well, it's like monosodium glutamate.
Everybody was scared of that for the longest time.
And Bourdain and I were talking about it, and he's like, no.
He was like, it's good.
He's like, it makes the food taste better.
I go.
jordan jensen
Anthony Bourdain.
Right.
joe rogan
It does, right?
He's like, yeah.
I go, what do you think about all the stuff about it being bad for you?
Because I think it's bullshit.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
And what does it do?
joe rogan
Monosodium glutamate is like what they would always put.
The thing was it was always you would hear that it was used in Chinese food.
But it was used in a lot of food.
I remember when I worked at Newport Creamery, they used to have some laying around.
I think, God, what was the name of that stuff?
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah, you go into places where you can put MSGs every time.
joe rogan
Yeah, but there was a name.
There was a product.
MSG enhances umami flavors with less sodium, about one-third the sodium of salt, while NACI primarily.
jamie vernon
That's just table salt, NACI.
joe rogan
Wasn't it called Accent?
Wasn't there something like that where there was a monosodium glutamate product that they would have for restaurants?
God, I can't remember what it was called.
Is it Accent?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There it is.
jordan jensen
That's a good rebrand.
joe rogan
Global Food Company known for Amino Science.
Umami seasoning.
Yeah, that's it.
So they'd have like a tub of that stuff.
You'd throw it in whatever the fuck you're cooking.
It made it taste better.
jordan jensen
What was the...
joe rogan
But monosodium glutamate was like the thing that everybody was always blaming.
Oh, I gotta stay away from Chinese food.
That fucking MSG kills me.
jordan jensen
It's so good.
joe rogan
And he was like, that's bullshit.
jordan jensen
But why did we say that?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's probably one of those things that we got stuck with, like saturated fat's bad for you, because some cunt got a lot of money from the sugar lobby.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so they wrote some fake science and everybody bought into it.
unidentified
Like the non-fat diet, yeah.
joe rogan
Those guys fucked everybody so hard and they did it for 50 grand.
They did it for 50 grand like the 1960s and forever we've been fucked.
jordan jensen
Dude, I would fell for it for a long time.
joe rogan
60 years.
Everybody's been like, oh, oh, go stay away from it.
Stay away from fat.
The perceptions of MSG's danger stem from the anecdotal reports and flawed early studies, not from consistent scientific evidence.
For most people, MSG does not cause health problems.
However, a small subset of the population may be sensitive to it and experience temporary mild symptoms.
So what's the mild symptoms?
Headaches, nausea.
Drowsiness.
Yeah.
Maybe you just ate too much, you fat fuck.
It was once called the Chinese restaurant syndrome, now known as MSG symptom complex.
These symptoms often appear within two hours and are typically mild.
Yeah, but also you probably ate like a pig.
jordan jensen
Also whiskey again.
joe rogan
Difficulty breathing in rare, severe cases.
You probably drank beer and ate 50 bowls of noodles, you fat fuck.
jordan jensen
Is RFK pro fucking, is he like pro checking all of this stuff or is he, isn't he the anti just like let it all run or is he?
joe rogan
No, he thinks you should know what's bad for you.
And if you want to take it, there should be a label on the food letting you know that the stuff in there has been shown to cause X, Y, and Z. Okay.
That's it.
Like he doesn't say we need to get rid of cigarettes or we need to get rid of whiskey.
Like if you don't say that, those two things, if you don't say no more cigarettes, no more whiskey.
If you don't say that, then shut up.
jordan jensen
So the left is worried about deregulation, right?
joe rogan
They're worried about deregulation.
jordan jensen
Is that true?
joe rogan
Yeah.
With many things.
Yeah, with environmental concerns, I'm sure they're worried about deregulation with banking and industry.
They're worried about deregulation.
jordan jensen
Is there any party that's just pro regulation?
Me?
Is there any party that's just pro regulation?
joe rogan
Regulate AI, regulate Instagram, regulate-I think the Democrats are much more interested in regulating things.
Like if you look at the most regulated states, they're Democrat run states.
Like, California has a lot of red tape and regulations if you want to get anything done.
jordan jensen
Socialist is the most regulated.
joe rogan
Yeah, because they want control.
They want more, more control from the government.
They have a bigger, bloated government.
And the way to keep that functioning is you got to go through hoops and ladders to get through anything.
Anything you want to do is to do it.
jordan jensen
It just feels like it's all or nothing.
I feel like you have to regulate everything or regulate nothing.
joe rogan
No, some regulation is good.
Like your parents are contractors, right?
There's a good example.
jordan jensen
Too much regulation there.
joe rogan
Too much regulation, but you need inspectors.
jordan jensen
Fuck the inspectors.
joe rogan
They suck.
Okay.
You can't say that because if your family does a good job, and I'm sure they do, that's fine.
But there's a bunch of fly-by-night fuckheads that make a house and don't follow code, and then shit goes sideways.
jordan jensen
But that shit is so corrupt.
That stuff is like, that stuff.
I mean, the bureaucratic bullshit that contractors have to go through is psycho.
joe rogan
That's true too.
jordan jensen
I used to be a contractor, dude.
The amount of, I should have been.
joe rogan
I think there's a comfortable medium.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
I don't.
joe rogan
My stepdad was an architect, so I grew up around construction sites as well.
jordan jensen
So you know how frustrating that guy is.
joe rogan
I do, but I also know that there's a lot of shady motherfuckers that are involved in construction.
And you've got to make sure these assholes follow code.
Otherwise, this house is going to collapse and kill everybody inside.
People suck.
Some people suck.
And they cut corners, they save money, they do things all half-assed.
And you need someone to go and inspect it.
jordan jensen
But then it's weird to not have regulation on other.
There's no regulation with social media.
I mean, unless it's the censorship shit.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
That's it's weird.
joe rogan
And it's really bad for you.
Psychologically, it might be one of the worst things that's ever happened to like collectively, society, psychologically.
Like if you look at Jonathan Haight's book, have you ever read his book, The Coddling of the American Mind?
jordan jensen
No.
joe rogan
It's all about Jonathan Haight.
He's great.
It's all about social media and then self-harm with girls.
This is a big thing.
Self-harm, suicidal ideation, suicidal thoughts.
That all comes like this because ramps way up when social media gets introduced.
jordan jensen
There should just be elected committees, elected psychological committee, elected philosophical.
joe rogan
Who's going to tell you you can and can't do it?
Who's going to say you should and shouldn't say things?
If you don't like it, you should get off of it.
And that's what I do.
I just stay off.
Yeah, but these kids are just, but so is booze, right?
They have to know.
Don't do that.
It'll ruin your life.
Don't do this.
This could ruin your life too.
And it also sucks your time.
jordan jensen
It's a drug.
It needs to be regulated like a drug.
joe rogan
Who's going to be the one?
Who's going to tell you what we don't want anybody telling me I can't go on Twitter?
If I'm at home and I have nothing to do and I pay taxes, I fucking, my bills are paid.
I want to just fuck off.
jordan jensen
Any tactic for attention monopolization has to be removed, says the committee that doesn't exist.
Like, you know how you feed them.
joe rogan
But it's not monopolization if you could shut it off anytime you want.
jordan jensen
But it pulls you in.
It sends you alerts.
It gives you the dopamine thing.
joe rogan
I don't have alerts on.
jordan jensen
No.
joe rogan
I've never had alerts on.
jordan jensen
The kids do.
joe rogan
Well, they should shut that shit off.
Someone should teach them how to use it correctly.
And also tell them, like, hey, this is a lot of negativity.
And a lot of these people are wasting their life on this shit.
You're wasting your time.
jordan jensen
But I know that.
And I just fell into a dark hellhole last night.
Like, it's hard to avoid.
joe rogan
It is, but you can do it.
I do it.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but I can do it.
But 13-year-old Jordan would be fucking hanging from that closet at the Airbnb.
I mean, it would be rough.
joe rogan
15-year-old Joe would be tweeting horrible shit at every celebrity.
jordan jensen
Oh, just horrible shit.
That's the other thing.
Horrible shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, under fake accounts.
You can make 30 different accounts.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Make a new Gmail address, make a new account.
All they have is that.
jordan jensen
Maybe that should be no more fake accounts.
joe rogan
Yeah, but then the thing is, whistleblowers are important, right?
If someone is in the government and there's some shady shit going on and you can expose it and you don't want to die.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You don't want to get Seth riched.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
But isn't there another way to whistleblow, like graffiti or something?
It doesn't work.
joe rogan
It can't go viral.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Billboards don't go viral.
You got to be able to express yourself without fear of consequences because there's a lot of people that don't have any power and there's a government or maybe you find out that the corporation you work for is doing some horrible shit and they're bypassing some environmental regulation and dumping toxic stuff into the ocean.
jordan jensen
Well, maybe it just comes down to regulating the corporations and being like, bro, you can't make money off of people's data.
You can't make money off of.
joe rogan
That's a problem because we didn't know when we all signed up for it that data was going to be this massive commodity.
Not only is it very valuable, but then it gives them insane power.
The people that have all that money and have all that power, now they're in control of Essentially, all social discourse.
jordan jensen
So, maybe that's the thing that needs to be regulated.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Because when they do regulate it, then it's like, did you ever read the Twitter files?
Did you read any of the stuff that Matt Taibbi and Schellenberger and all these guys?
When Elon purchased Twitter, one of the things they found out was the intelligence communities have been deeply embedded into Twitter and that they were involved in suppressing certain narratives and pushing other ones.
And it was like really sketchy stuff, like dangerous, dangerous stuff.
Because if they have the power to suppress accurate, real information, then you're propagandizing to the entire country.
You're shifting narratives.
You're changing the way people think about things.
This can affect elections.
This can affect public health.
It's going to affect everything.
And they were doing that.
And they were doing it because they had regulation over social media.
They had power.
Elon comes along and he's like, fuck that.
It's Wild West time and opens it wide up.
And everyone's like, oh, it's all racist now.
There's Nazis.
Like, yes, there's more of that now because it's not getting banned.
But also, there's more people that, you know, can talk about virtually anything that they want to.
And you can debate it out.
You can talk about the climate.
You can talk about the moon.
You can talk about asteroids.
You can talk about foreign governments.
You can talk about anything.
And that's better.
It's better to have people say horrible shit, but also be able to say true shit than not be able to say anything.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but I worry about the, I worry about the, it just comes down to kids for me because they get radicalized.
I mean, when you see the racist shit and you join the tribe, it just like becomes.
joe rogan
They can't radicalize.
They could also become Christians.
They could also become like hikers.
They could also really get into jiu-jitsu.
They could also join video games.
They could join ISIS.
jordan jensen
Yeah, ISIS.
joe rogan
They could also do whatever the fuck they want to do.
I mean, this is just, we got to duke it out in the battlefield of ideas.
And that has to be able to take place.
You can't have people decide what you can and can't discuss because the problem with that is like then they have power over you and they have power over the most important thing that we do as a culture, which is figure out what's right and what's wrong.
Figure out who's correct and who's incorrect.
What's a fact and what is a lie?
What is propaganda?
Why have they made so much money pushing this thing where there's no science behind it?
And if you say, then they say, trust the science.
Okay, well, show me what the science is.
And then you have people that are looking at the science that are actual scientists that get boycotted and banned from Twitter.
That's one of the things that happened during this whole FBI infiltration of Twitter or whatever the organization was that the government had that was deeply, it was multiple organizations deeply embedded.
They were kicking people off.
They were like Stanford scientists that were, they were, they had a different view of how the pandemic should be handled.
They were kicking them off Twitter.
jordan jensen
And then you get to a point where you need regulators on the regulators and who's going to regulate the regulators.
joe rogan
Who's going to regulate the regulators?
jordan jensen
So you think Wild West, teach your kids correctly?
joe rogan
Yes.
I think that's better.
I think this is the world we're living in and it's a weird world.
But this is the reality of the world.
And you need to prepare them for the reality of the world.
Don't shield them from it.
jordan jensen
Right.
I guess it's just technology being such a drug is an issue to me.
It is a drug, but it feels like the, it feels like the government making money off of selling fentanyl.
Like that's what it feels like.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's also fun for kids, too.
They're doing Snapchats and they're fucking, they're having a good time, too.
It's not all negative.
You know, it's just it can be negative.
And the pylons, like when people, like that lady, what she did to her daughter, which is the most evil fucking thing ever.
But there's groups of kids that will go after a kid and pile on them and attack them anonymously.
And, you know, kids kill themselves over things like that.
You have freaks them out.
jordan jensen
Teens, how do they deal with it?
joe rogan
They're remarkably healthy.
It's very strange.
jordan jensen
They have social media, but they're crazy about it.
joe rogan
Yeah, one of them just got off of everything.
She's once concentrated on her schoolwork.
She hasn't been on any social media in over 90 days.
It's very impressive.
jordan jensen
But that's an addiction to be like 90 days of clean.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's also she can do it.
It's like, it's not an addiction like, oh my God, if you ever get on social media again, now you're going to be homeless and snorting social media.
No, it's like, it's a thing that's not necessarily good for you.
Just like cake.
Don't eat cake all day.
But if you want to have a birthday cake or you want to occasionally have a piece of cake, you have dinner, nice dinner, let's get some dessert.
Fuck it.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but what about the cake?
What if every time I went to go eat cake, there was 90 other dudes in the cake shop that were being like, we should kill this group of people.
And you'd be like, fuck, I really want to eat cake, but these people keep saying that.
And maybe I believe them because I've read so much.
At some point, somebody should walk into the cake shop and be like, dude, you guys can't be here.
joe rogan
There are laws, right?
So like there's free speech, but if you threaten someone, there's laws against that.
jordan jensen
If you threaten a group?
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah.
If you say, I want to kill all the Greeks in America.
Like some of them will come to you.
jordan jensen
Nobody wants them dead.
We love them.
unidentified
Somebody loves Greeks.
joe rogan
But if you just said something like that.
Yeah, someone would visit you from the FBI if you make threats against people.
But we have existing laws that already protect people.
from that.
jordan jensen
Okay.
joe rogan
I just think most people should stay the fuck off of it because most of the people that are doing it are wasting their life.
jordan jensen
It's crazy how I just last night was sucked into this vortex and then I just put my phone away and my dog was sitting right there.
And I was like, oh, hey, real life thing that loves me.
joe rogan
Also, I had no idea that this was going on with you.
I had no idea.
jordan jensen
Yeah, I know.
It's ridiculous.
It sucks so bad because I was trying to be so, I was like actively trying to say a woke thing that I went through, patting myself on my fucking back and it just fucking spun out of control.
joe rogan
You can never be woke enough because it's all horseshit.
It's all horseshit.
It's just a cult.
And it's a cult that is mostly perpetrated by people that don't have a religion.
So it behaves like a religion.
You can get excommunicated.
You can get cast out of the kingdom for life.
There's rules.
If you follow those rules, you'll be good.
If you're not, you're a heretic.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a religion.
And it's a religion for people that don't have a religion because there's a fucking weird part of our brain that whether you are a Democrat or Republican, it fits that spot.
jordan jensen
Right.
joe rogan
So there's a, if you don't have something in your life that you think of as a higher power or at least have like some sort of ethical and moral foundation and some goal, some higher goal that you ascribe to, something will fill that spot.
There's a spot in your brain and that spot will be, I'm a Republican.
Or that spot will be, I'm a liberal.
And we got to, these goddamn racists and all these, all these white people, we got to get rid of white people.
White people say that.
The real problem is white people.
They'll say that.
And they'll say, they'll pat themselves on the back while they're saying it because they think they're being a good woester.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just nuts.
It's just religion.
jordan jensen
It's just it's crazy how many people DM'd me and I DM'd them back being like, hey, I just want you to know, like, I'm so, I, like, totally didn't mean to hurt anybody.
And I'm really sorry if you're offended by this.
And they would just immediately be like, oh, it's totally okay.
I take back everything I said.
When what they said was like, you fucking bitch.
And I just was like, hey, I'm a person.
And they're like, oh, shit, I've completely forgot.
And I was like, oh, okay.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Everybody completely.
It's a terrible way to communicate.
jordan jensen
It's bizarre.
Yeah.
I mean, I fucking do it.
I talk so much shit about everything.
And then I get there.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, this is, I think it just feels good to believe something.
It feels so good to stand your ground on something and to be like, I did something today that meant something, even though it doesn't mean anything.
joe rogan
It doesn't.
jordan jensen
We need meaning so fucking bad.
joe rogan
We do.
And that's why it takes the place of religion for people who don't have religion.
jordan jensen
But it doesn't have to be religion.
You can have it be in the, you can have it be the no, it doesn't have to be religion.
joe rogan
No, but I mean, there's a spot in our brains.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
The religion has always been there.
And we've filled that spot with whatever the fuck it is, leftist politics, right-wing ideology, whatever the fuck it is.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You find a thing that becomes your religion.
jordan jensen
Totally.
joe rogan
People are fucking broken.
So weird.
jordan jensen
It is weird.
joe rogan
But we're also wonderful.
We're fun.
When we, you know, when we work right.
jordan jensen
Yeah, when we're face to face.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, even though sometimes it's not, you know?
jordan jensen
Crazy, but then you run into the person who talks shit about you and you're like, oh, hey, what's up?
Yeah.
You were just playing the video game of hatred.
joe rogan
Yep.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And that's what most people are doing on Instagram and on Twitter because it's just such an easy thing to do.
And especially if your life sucks, it's a great distraction.
You can pay attention to other people and tell fucking Jordan it fucking cunt and just say horrible shit.
And it distracts you from whatever is wrong with your life.
jordan jensen
But the video game of like health and body perfection, like getting your, getting jacked is like the religion that many comics are in, me too.
And it is, it does take that role a lot.
Like a lot of times when people are just hatred, I'm like, just target lower belly fat.
If you want to be fucking activated about something, get fucking pissed at that.
You know what I mean?
Because it's always, I look at the picture of these people and they're just like miserable fuckers in a basement.
And I'm like, dude, just, what if you just spent all day taking a really long bath and just cleaning that shit off you, you know what I mean?
Instead of hating me.
joe rogan
Well, think about what we're talking about with OCD, those tight grooves of behavior that just get just, it's so easy to slide into those grooves.
They're so honed.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They've been used so many times.
Just an instantaneous decision to go down those pathways.
It's hard for people.
It's hard for people to snap out of them, especially people that are fragile and that are worried about getting attacked themselves.
Those are the most vicious.
The most fragile people are the most vicious.
They're the most mean, the ones that are worried about being criticized themselves.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hurt people hurt people.
jordan jensen
True dat.
joe rogan
That's it.
jordan jensen
I've done it.
I've done it.
I've hurt people.
joe rogan
We all have.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's normal.
It's a normal part of being a person.
It's just the social media thing.
There's very little value and a lot of negativity.
Or you could use it correctly if you're a journalist or if you're someone who's like curated a good feed and you just want to find out what's actually happening.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because the world's filled with like crazy shit that happens all the time that you don't know about unless you get on Twitter.
If you just paid attention to the mainstream news, you'd miss 80% of what's going on in the world.
jordan jensen
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
I mean, there's so much.
I talk so much shit about social media, but the amount of animal videos that have brought me back from the, I mean, I found out that otters have a little skin pocket and it's like saved my life multiple times just knowing that.
Like that shit is so good.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Any fast intake of National Geographic online is like most of my time I spend if I'm fucking off on my phone is on YouTube.
And I don't have a problem with that because most of that is like videos.
I'm getting educated.
jordan jensen
Yeah, I would not have been able to be a contractor without you.
unidentified
That's interesting.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
I should have called my business.
joe rogan
There's so much you can learn if you just do it right.
Like YouTube is the most amazing resource if you just do it right.
jordan jensen
And there's just some fucking guy who's like, I'm going to teach you exactly how to utilize this impact driver.
And you're like, yeah, I don't know why you're doing this, but thank you.
joe rogan
Yeah, why are you doing that?
unidentified
It's really weird.
jordan jensen
Some of those people, they're like, I'm going to tell you how to change a Toyota tire on a Nissan truck.
And I'm like, that's exactly what I do.
joe rogan
I do use.
jordan jensen
It's crazy.
Right, right, right.
Yeah.
Those guys rule.
joe rogan
Oh, there's so much good how-to stuff that's available online.
Or you can get on Twitter and just start yelling about the Jews or figure out a thing, whatever it is.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The fucking climate.
Do you understand what's happening?
unidentified
We won't have an earth for our children.
joe rogan
You know, people go crazy.
jordan jensen
Are you worried about your kids' future?
joe rogan
Of course.
Of course.
I'm worried about everybody's future.
I'm worried about their future.
I don't want anything bad to happen to them.
Just like I don't want anything bad to happen to anybody.
jordan jensen
That's why I can't.
I don't think I can have kids.
joe rogan
But when people say that, I was like, I wouldn't want to have kids today.
I'd be like, yeah, why would you with all the books and medicine and shit?
People had kids before they figured out doors.
jordan jensen
When they say, I don't want to bring a kid into this world, like I sometimes don't want a kid just because the idea of letting my dog outside without me scares me.
But like, and I'm neurotic.
But when they say that, I'm like, you're talking about the absence of consciousness being superior to consciousness.
Yeah.
That's a paradox.
You can't say one is better than the other.
There is no better until you're born.
joe rogan
Not only that, there's a lot of people in my life that I love.
I have a lot of good friends.
I have a lot of people that I love.
The only way you make people is they have to be babies.
They grow up to be people that you love.
That's the game.
That's life.
You have to, if you love people, you probably love kids.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You just don't know it.
And you probably are, you know, terrified of responsibility, which is real.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
But you can have kids.
It's not bad.
jordan jensen
Do you think everybody should do it?
joe rogan
No.
I think you can have a rich and full life and never have children.
I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
And I always resented that when I didn't have children.
People say, oh, you don't even know.
unidentified
You don't have kids.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Like, okay.
joe rogan
Like, don't say that.
That's silly.
unidentified
Did it.
joe rogan
Didn't she alienate people?
Yeah, it changes it.
jordan jensen
Did it unlock like a molly level of love?
joe rogan
Yes.
Chappelle had the best quote about this.
He said, not only did it change the amount of love that I have, it changed my capacity for love.
jordan jensen
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, you don't know, like how much you love your dog, and I know you love your dog.
I've seen you with your dog.
You love your kids times a million.
jordan jensen
But that's frightening.
That level of love.
How do you let them go to school?
joe rogan
Life is crazy.
Life is frightening.
You just have to learn and grow and just deal.
This is just part of the thing.
You can't just be safe forever.
You're not going to live.
You're going to die.
We're all going to.
You just have to exist.
And, you know, you have to, like, when you don't see your friend, like, bye.
And, you know, they get on a plane.
You're like, oh, my God, what if the plane crashes?
What if I never see them again?
You can't live like that.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but a child, I would be.
joe rogan
No, I know, I know, I know.
jordan jensen
You had to teach yourself to chill.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
And you still, you only chill so much.
You know, you love them so much.
It's hard.
But I think there's a reason why societies like people to have children because it makes you much more concerned with law and order.
Makes you much more s concerned with cleanliness and pollution and all of the harm that could happen to your child.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You worry more because if it's just you're selfish and you're by yourself, fuck everybody.
I'm going to go get a whore.
You know, like, okay.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're not really a part of this thing.
You're just kind of like, you're a leech.
You know, like this, this thing is all of us together.
jordan jensen
It would frustrate me if I had kids that people without kids have equal right to vote.
That would annoy me.
Why?
joe rogan
Because they could vote for negative things about your case.
jordan jensen
It just would, it would piss me off.
I'd be like, you're not keeping a life around.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
jordan jensen
Like, you're just a selfish shitter and eater, you know?
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of those selfish shitters and eaters too that think that somehow, because this is one of the things that people are being taught today, that somehow or another, because there's so much money in the world, like you're owed something.
And they should just, we should have universal basic income and your needs should be met.
There's a bunch of people that think that way.
Don't think that you should provide a value, that your needs should be met because there's so much wealth in the world and that everything else, whatever the wealthy people have on top of that, that should only exist once their needs are met because there's a fake scarcity crisis in this country.
And it's really because the wealthy people have gotten so much.
jordan jensen
But that's the Bernie, bro.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, there's some truth to that, though, right?
There is some truth.
Like, if someone acquires all the money and everybody else is poor, obviously you have a broken system.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bernie's idea was to take a small amount of stock market exchanges, just like a fraction of a penny for each one of these, and that money would all be an incredible resource that would go to education and healthcare and all these different quality of life things that would have a legitimate impact on society.
That's what I was interested in.
That was my most compelling thought that he had.
The most compelling thought to me.
I was like, that seems like that would work.
That seemed like that would have a big impact and it would change a lot of things.
jordan jensen
I've always been down for the tax the corporations.
I've always been down for it and not view them as having human rights.
joe rogan
Well, the weird thing is that they have the ability to donate insane amounts of money towards congressional campaigns and Senators.
jordan jensen
That's fucked.
joe rogan
That's fucked.
jordan jensen
So if they're going to take that, stop that.
unidentified
No, no, what is that called?
jordan jensen
What is that called?
Electoral funding?
unidentified
Sure.
jordan jensen
Election funding.
There's a name for it.
But stop that.
joe rogan
Campaign funding?
jordan jensen
Campaign funding.
Stop that.
joe rogan
It's not even just that.
It's like it's funding super PACs.
It's funding NGOs.
There's a lot of shit that goes on that's just really about influence.
jordan jensen
But if you get a corporation that's making that much money, tax the shit out of it for schools.
joe rogan
Well, not a bad idea of it, but you got to be able to make money.
The real problem with corporations is they have to always make more money.
Like if you have a responsibility for your shareholder, if you're a CEO, every quarter, you have to make more money.
Like the idea is like you're doing really well.
You're making more money.
And the only way to really keep making, they never go, we're good.
Hey, everybody, we're good.
jordan jensen
Why not?
joe rogan
Because they're cunts.
jordan jensen
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
Because you get to this, that's the game they're playing.
They're playing the I want more money game.
They're not playing the let's make the world a better place game because it's a corporation.
So it's a sociopath.
It acts like a sociopath.
Have you ever seen like when they've done these studies where they're like, well, look at the behavior of a corporation.
It's basically a psychopath.
jordan jensen
That's why I think they should fund the shit.
It's crazy how much the middle class is tax.
joe rogan
What they really fucked up was with the stock market in general in the first place.
jordan jensen
Stock market is so weird to me.
I will not put any money in it.
I buy gold and I buy a house and I buy a car.
I buy a watch, but I won't do the stock market.
joe rogan
But it's crazy that everybody gets to be involved in like IBM.
jordan jensen
That is so weird to me.
unidentified
It's weird.
jordan jensen
But I'm not allowed to say this because people go, oh, no, Jordan, you got to put it into a fund that is an index.
And I'm like, I don't have to gamble.
I grew up white trash.
Gambling is a bad thing.
Yeah, but in my family.
You're not allowed to do that.
joe rogan
The thing is, it is a real thing and it does work.
Look at Nancy Pelosi.
She's got half a billion dollars.
She did it in a shady way.
jordan jensen
Is that good that she has that?
joe rogan
No.
jordan jensen
It's not good.
joe rogan
No.
My friends who are like, it's not going to make her live longer.
She's 82 fucking years old.
She looks terrible.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It's like the end is nigh.
Stop working.
jordan jensen
And my friends are like, I made 50 grand off Bitcoin and I'm like, you just put it back in the Bitcoin.
You're going to keep it in Bitcoin because now you're stuck in an addiction until it's gone, until it tanks.
You know what I mean?
Nobody that I know is like, I'm pulling out.
Maybe a couple.
joe rogan
Some people have, and they've made a lot of money.
jordan jensen
That's great.
Yeah.
I have one friend who did that, very proud of him.
But typically it keeps you in it.
joe rogan
It's like the same people that stay off social media.
They're rare.
jordan jensen
They're rare, but they utilize the system.
unidentified
Yeah.
jordan jensen
When I was micro-dosing, I could do that.
I could post and be like, I'm not going to be able to do it.
joe rogan
Why did you stop micro-dosing?
jordan jensen
Because I was in and out of a relationship that when I would micro-dose, my brain would be like, bro, what are you doing?
You got to get out of this thing.
And I'd be like, okay, just won't microdose.
But now I'm back to it.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I get that.
jordan jensen
When it shows you a truth that you cannot handle.
joe rogan
You'd be like, yikes, but I don't want to be alone.
jordan jensen
I would take the mushrooms and they'd be like, you're better.
Come on, dude.
This guy is mean to you.
You're a cool chick.
And I'd be like, shut up.
I'm not cool.
joe rogan
The mean to you is gross.
jordan jensen
I'm so, it's the best, though.
It's my daughter.
joe rogan
I like that.
Yeah, I hate back and forth.
jordan jensen
I like fighting, yeah.
joe rogan
Fighting in the makeup sex.
jordan jensen
I just like somebody who's very honest and is like, that's a stupid thing that you did.
That's a good thing that you did.
joe rogan
It's very damn.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
Yeah, you got to be able to do it with someone when you calm them down and say it rationally.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you got to say you love them first.
And you got to say nice things first.
jordan jensen
Yeah, that was the problem.
There's none of that.
Yeah, totally.
But the mushrooms would be like, it would become, I'd immediately be lucid and be like, you can love a person and not be miserable.
Those two things can happen at once.
You can love somebody and not be in a relationship with them because it doesn't work.
So I was like, okay, we're not going to micro-dose.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm on the fence about micro-dosing, but I think for some people, it seems to be a giant quality of life enhancer.
jordan jensen
It just tells you when to stop.
You can't do it that long.
You can do it for like two weeks.
joe rogan
Micro-dosing?
jordan jensen
Yeah, and then it doesn't do shit.
And then you have to stop.
joe rogan
Well, that's probably good too.
It's probably like most things.
You know, you shouldn't drink every day.
If you want to go on a vacation for two weeks, you're going to get hammered.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's good.
jordan jensen
But the mushrooms will be like, I mean, they'll just be like, dude, what are you?
It never gets addicting.
But I did it a lot during the pandemic and it helped.
joe rogan
I know some people that got addicted to the idea of like spiritual awakening.
jordan jensen
Oh, the ayahuasca people.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Some of those people get cooked.
unidentified
Yeah.
They get cooked.
joe rogan
They get overcooked and they start reading poetry on Instagram.
unidentified
You're like, yo.
jordan jensen
Oh, my God.
When I get the text message, it's like, hey, I love you so much.
I'm like, damn, we did another ayahuasca journey.
joe rogan
No, that's cool, though.
Someone's just saying they love you is nice.
jordan jensen
That's nice.
joe rogan
Ari sent me an I love you message the other day.
I was like, what were you on?
Oh, Molly.
unidentified
Boom, boys.
jordan jensen
Dude, it's gone for a while, right?
He's like in South America.
joe rogan
He's off the fucking reservation.
jordan jensen
He is so inspiring to me with comedy where he'll be like, I'm taking, I'm not doing it right now.
joe rogan
Well, he's very smart.
jordan jensen
He's so smart.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's very smart.
jordan jensen
He did the whole sp I mean, Eric Abrams and my whole team did it, but Ari, like every step of the way, would be calling me every day and be like, what are you doing?
Do this.
And I'd be like, I don't know what I'm doing.
He'd be like, tell everybody to pause.
I mean, it was crazy.
joe rogan
Ari's very strong in his beliefs.
Some of his opinions are terrible, though.
Ari famously told me to never put out a three-hour podcast.
unidentified
You got to edit it.
joe rogan
In the beginning, he goes, why is your podcast three hours?
I said, because that's how I felt like talking for three hours.
You should edit it.
No one's going to listen for three hours.
jordan jensen
Three hours when you were just starting it out?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
I always did it three hours.
I'm like, they don't have to.
jordan jensen
How long have we done this?
joe rogan
They don't listen.
Almost three hours.
jordan jensen
Jesus.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
How do you do it?
jordan jensen
It is a time warp.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Because we're locked in.
So if you're really locked in, if you haven't really locked in with someone, you really haven't.
It seems like three hours.
jordan jensen
What if you don't get locked in?
joe rogan
It happens sometimes.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Some podcasts are.
unidentified
Women?
joe rogan
No.
jordan jensen
Men too?
unidentified
Sure.
jordan jensen
Non-comics?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Non-comics.
Even some comics.
You're like, God, I have nothing in common with this guy.
You know?
jordan jensen
Brutal.
That's like when I'm in therapy and I'm talking about yet another breakup and my therapist is, it's the worst feeling ever.
And I'm like, well, you need to lock in right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, lock it in.
jordan jensen
But you've had not lock-in days?
Have you ever had it be your fault?
joe rogan
Oh, I guess.
Probably.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
What are you doing?
joe rogan
I mean, I try.
I mean, at this point, I'm pretty good at it.
So I know how to finagle a conversation.
You know, generally, I look for a blunt.
I'm like, okay, I got to do it.
jordan jensen
Oh, I have to change myself.
joe rogan
I got to fucking fire this up and make fun of this.
jordan jensen
Oh, you're pro-weed.
You're a weed guy.
unidentified
I love weed.
jordan jensen
You love weed.
joe rogan
Oh, I love it.
jordan jensen
Okay, I just started using weed for sleep.
joe rogan
Well, it's weird for sleep.
jordan jensen
Okay, but it's the only thing that's ever worked ever.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
Do you use edibles?
Flour the other day, edibles the other day, and the thing is, I think it prevents you from going into REM sleep or it hinders your REM sleep.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but it lets you watch.
It lets you watch yourself enter sleep, which rules.
Like being like, and goodbye is sick.
Because every morning you wake up and you go, I don't remember falling asleep, but on weed, you're like, this is it.
Here it is.
Which is good.
joe rogan
No, I know a lot of people that use it for sleep.
I know a lot of people that always hated weed and used to like, when I would smoke, they were like, weed makes you lazy.
I'm like, it doesn't.
I'm telling you, it doesn't.
You're lazy.
Weed does not make you lazy.
jordan jensen
That's me.
I always thought weed makes you lazy, but I'm using it for sleep.
joe rogan
Yeah, I thought it too until I was 30.
I met my friend Eddie.
My friend Eddie Bravo was the one who got me high for the first time when I was like 30 years old.
I hadn't gotten high since I think I got high like maybe a small handful of times when I was a comedian, when I first started doing comedy rather.
And then before I was a comedian.
Like maybe my whole life, maybe seven, eight times ever being high, ever.
Until I was 30.
No, I just didn't like not being in control.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I always associated people who did drugs with people who never got anything done and they were a bunch of fucking losers.
And I never wanted to be that.
jordan jensen
If you smoked a blunt right now, you would have no fear that it could turn a bad way.
joe rogan
No.
jordan jensen
You don't have any of the like, my heart's going to stop.
I can hear my blood in my ears.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
jordan jensen
You don't have any of that.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no.
jordan jensen
Have you ever?
joe rogan
Sure.
I've gotten paranoid before.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
When you tried it out.
joe rogan
I had to figure out why.
And generally, it's like there's something bothering me in life.
There's something.
So the real thing about it is it exposes something that's bothering you.
Well, you should go probably fix that.
jordan jensen
Yeah, but what if the thing that's bothering you is that you can't deal with the fact that you have skin.
You know what I mean?
unidentified
That's what happens to me when I smoke weed is I'm like, this shit has got to go.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
You have a different mind than me, I guess.
jordan jensen
My shit.
joe rogan
That's the thing I wouldn't recommend it for everybody.
I know people can't smoke.
They don't like being paranoid.
I like it.
I like being panic.
jordan jensen
Yeah, some of you fuckers love that shit.
joe rogan
I like being a little smooth.
jordan jensen
Because then after the panic, you're like, I'm good now.
joe rogan
You're good, but also it's good to know, like, maybe you have blinders on and there's some real vulnerabilities in the world and you should probably consider them sometimes.
jordan jensen
Have you ever had a crazy one that you were like, that's not right.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
No, not that bad.
I've just been real paranoid before.
Just super high, like, yikes.
And then you calm down.
You're like, whoo.
Once it's over, you're fine.
jordan jensen
It's crazy for you to be paranoid because you're like one of the people that should be paranoid.
You have like Lizard Man coming after you or whatever.
What's his name, Lizard Guy?
joe rogan
Liver King.
jordan jensen
Liver King.
What happened?
joe rogan
Yeah, if anybody should be paranoid, I should probably be a little paranoid.
But anybody in the public eye should be a little paranoid.
Anybody, you included.
jordan jensen
Yeah, I've gotten high and deleted some stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
For sure.
For sure.
But like, whoa.
jordan jensen
This has got to come down.
joe rogan
Well, I think marijuana is a tool like everything else.
I think you can learn things from it.
And I think it's like steroids for comedy.
You can come up with some stuff when you're high that I don't think is available.
Yeah, I don't think those thoughts are available if you're sober.
There's things that I wrote that I wrote when I was high.
I was like, there's no way I was writing that without any help.
jordan jensen
Yeah, I guess I've had it a little bit, but I have to hit the sweet spot or I go right into panic.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
The sweet spot.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the key.
jordan jensen
You know what helps me if I always have a Xanax somewhere.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
jordan jensen
Like it just exists in my bullet that I can pull.
joe rogan
That's a crazy one.
That's a scary addictive one.
jordan jensen
Xanax is so addictive.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Jordan Peterson, speaking of which, he was on that shit.
jordan jensen
I thought it was Klondike Bar, Klon Klonopin.
I thought it was on him Klondex.
joe rogan
Well, he was definitely on benzodiazepine for a long time.
That shit.
That's Xanax.
And so that's one of the ones where you get off of Xanax, where you could die.
There's only a couple of drugs where if you get off of it, you could die.
Alcohol is another one.
jordan jensen
Alcohol is on, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Xanax is another one.
And it's really hard for people.
jordan jensen
Dude, I bought Klonipin in Mexico, and I was like, I'm just going to use this when I have a panic attack.
Dawn.
Dawn in two weeks.
Every night I was being like, well, might as well take a little bit.
I feel a little angry.
And I was like, oh, you need to never allow this around you.
I got a Xanax the other day and my friend was like, you can have as many as you want.
And I was like, I need one and never give me another again because this is a thing that I'll keep it just in case.
joe rogan
Just like break glass in case of war.
jordan jensen
Break glass.
It's a break glass pill.
joe rogan
Yeah, totally.
jordan jensen
Or else I fuck our benzos are fucking, dude.
joe rogan
I've heard.
No.
I was on a flight once with a lady and she said, there is nothing in this world that's better than a Xanax and a glass of wine.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I was like, I don't think you're supposed to drink with Xanax.
She's like, nope.
jordan jensen
It's too late.
She's still insane, dude.
unidentified
That lady didn't give a fuck.
jordan jensen
What was what I did the other day?
Poppers?
joe rogan
Oh, no.
Amyl Nitrate?
jordan jensen
Poppers.
Dude, I had no idea because I don't do anything.
And I was dancing at a wedding and my gay friend was like, sniff these.
joe rogan
Oh, gay guys love that.
The poppers.
jordan jensen
Just a mini rave for a second.
joe rogan
How much did you do?
unidentified
A lot.
joe rogan
How many times did you do it?
jordan jensen
Enough where I felt fucked up, like five.
unidentified
Wow.
jordan jensen
I know.
joe rogan
It gives you like instant brain damage.
jordan jensen
Yeah, that's what it felt like.
That's what it felt like.
joe rogan
I think it does.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think it's like it cooks.
jordan jensen
Really, it's got to be bad.
Because I went from being such a downer to being like, marriage is stupid to mean like, it was crazy.
I was dragging people in.
Yeah.
But that's like the brain damage from the boxing where you're like, dude, sometimes I need to be a little stupid for a second or else I'm just constantly being like, society is evil.
joe rogan
I wonder what's worse for you, amyl nitrate or boxing.
jordan jensen
I don't know.
joe rogan
What's the side effects of amyl nitrate?
Because I know a lot of the gay fellas like it when they bought them.
jamie vernon
What it's actually made for is to relieve pain of angina attacks.
Oh.
Which I like.
jordan jensen
Angina.
joe rogan
What is angina?
jordan jensen
What the fuck?
I thought the bar between your anus and your vagina.
Angina.
joe rogan
What is the side effects of amyl nitrate abuse?
jamie vernon
Angina text is chest pain discomfort caused by reduced blood flow to the heart.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Okay.
And so amyl nitrate reduces that?
jamie vernon
It reduces the pain of it.
jordan jensen
Oh.
jamie vernon
Because it relaxes the blood vessels and increases the blood and oxygen.
joe rogan
Oh, it relaxes that booty hole.
jordan jensen
Yeah, it makes the butthole open.
unidentified
Woo!
jordan jensen
I was worried I was going to shoot my pants when I did it.
No.
Yeah, but I didn't do it.
joe rogan
I think other things have to happen for you to shoot your pants.
jordan jensen
Yeah, a gay man has to try and have sex with me.
joe rogan
Someone has to pound you in the asshole.
Side effects, headaches, dizziness, flushing, rapid heart rate.
I got some more severe risk.
Life-threatening blood condition called methamoglobin.
Methyl.
Say that.
Help me out.
Methamogene.
jordan jensen
Methemoglobin.
joe rogan
And dangerous drops in blood pressure, especially when combined with other drugs.
jordan jensen
Methylmoboglobin.
joe rogan
Does it cause brain damage?
Google does amyl nitrate brain damage.
jordan jensen
Dude, you better say that it does or else I'm doing that right now.
unidentified
Damage didn't come right up.
jordan jensen
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
Let's see.
It can cause both acute and long-term brain damage.
Why wouldn't it come up immediately?
Primarily through two long-term, acute and long-term brain damage.
Primarily through two mechanisms, oxygen deprivation and direct neurotoxicity.
Severe or prolonged exposure can lead to permanent cognitive and neurological issues.
jordan jensen
Yeah, I mean, you feel that immediately when you sniff it.
joe rogan
You're like, this can't be good.
jordan jensen
It feels like somebody's hitting the back of the bed and you're like, it's so crazy.
It's like Whippets.
joe rogan
Oh, but way more, right?
It's way stronger.
jordan jensen
Yeah, it lasts way longer.
joe rogan
I did Whippets at the Newport Creamery place that I worked at because we had like real whippets.
Like a giant whipped cream canister, like a huge one.
jordan jensen
That's sick.
joe rogan
Like the real things where you make the whipped cream.
We would have to pour the sugar and pour the cream and then mix it.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
If I do that with a whipped cream bottle, aren't you not allowed to use any of the whipped cream?
That's always been my problem.
joe rogan
Oh, we had the gas.
We had the actual gas back there.
One of the kids that we worked with was a total dirtbag, and he knew how to get high off the gas.
We would all go back there and get high with this guy.
jordan jensen
That's so fun.
joe rogan
I only did it like once or twice because you hit it and you like, you have almost like an out of body.
jordan jensen
Like, whoa, whoa.
joe rogan
Like, whoa.
jordan jensen
It's awesome.
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it only lasts like 15, 20 seconds.
And I was like, oh, my God.
You're dumb enough as it is.
Don't get dumber.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
It's always the idiots in the back of your place.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just used to get so high.
I used to smoke a blown every morning before school and I just would get, oh, it was so crazy stupid.
And then when I got older, my brain was just like, you can't have any more of this.
If you do, you're going to bite your tongue up.
joe rogan
It's definitely probably not good for kids.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's burning high all the time with your kids.
It's like, God.
Like, you're developing.
Your brain's developing while it's constantly being bombarded by THC.
That's not good.
jordan jensen
My dad was just such a weed guy.
He was like, you can smoke weed with me whenever you want.
joe rogan
Oh, that's funny.
jordan jensen
Have you smoked weed with your kids ever?
joe rogan
No.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You see, that's appropriate.
But I told them, we've had conversations about drugs, and I said the most important thing is stay away from any and all pills for a bunch of reasons.
Not just because what the pill supposedly is is bad for you, but because I bet what's in that pill is not what's supposed to be in there because of fentanyl.
And they know that.
jordan jensen
And powder.
Coke is fucked.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Coke is fuck.
jordan jensen
I think Coke is the worst.
joe rogan
Well, it's all fentanyl now.
It's all, there's so much fentanyl, and there's fake Xanaxes and fit, and they're all fentanyl.
There's Molly, fake Molly.
It's all fentanyl.
jordan jensen
And the fentanyl, if it's small enough, is fine.
joe rogan
Well, it's so much.
It's so small, the amount that can kill you.
Have you ever seen the amount of fentanyl that is lethal?
jordan jensen
That that cop showed?
joe rogan
No, like, have you ever seen, like, in comparison to a penny?
There's a photograph on the internet of the amount of fentanyl in comparison to a penny that's lethal that will 100% put you in the fucking ground.
Fentanyl is so small.
jordan jensen
It's the best feeling ever, though, when you go under for surgery and they give it to you.
unidentified
That's awesome.
Yeah.
It's small.
joe rogan
What did you get surgery on?
Did they give you fat?
jordan jensen
I used to be so fat that I had all this skin and I got it cut off.
joe rogan
Yo.
How painful was that?
jordan jensen
Afterwards, brutal.
unidentified
Oh.
jordan jensen
They kind of shuttled me out pretty fast.
They were like, all right, up and out.
I can't go home.
It was crazy.
unidentified
Draining.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Go home and drain.
jordan jensen
Draining.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It had to go, though.
It was in the way.
joe rogan
Must be happy now, right, that you did it.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
It was stuck in my, it was getting my zipper.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan jensen
I was having a tuck in.
Yeah, like a dick.
It was awful.
joe rogan
Ouchie.
I've only caught my dick in my zipper like two or three times in my life.
jordan jensen
It's brutal.
joe rogan
It's not fun.
jordan jensen
How do you catch it in there?
Wait, why is your dick up that high?
Oh, I see.
Baggy pants.
joe rogan
But he's just not paying attention.
Like, going raw dog.
jordan jensen
It's weird that you guys have a whole external package down there.
You just have balls on the outside.
joe rogan
The balls on the outside is the dumbest fucking invention of all the time.
jordan jensen
I'm sorry about that.
The itchiness and the wetness.
joe rogan
That's not the problem.
The problem is getting kicked there.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That's the problem.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
But evolution had to give you that.
You had to add something.
joe rogan
I guess.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
I guess.
jordan jensen
We have so many problems.
unidentified
It's just to keep them from overheating because you need sperm.
jordan jensen
Where they hang.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, they have to be able to cool in the breeze.
Because if they're getting overheated, it's not good for you.
It's not good for them.
jordan jensen
It's crazy that you just have a unit dangling off your body that's keeping it.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
And it's the most vulnerable part of your body other than your eyeballs.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just hanging out there.
jordan jensen
It helps, though.
Men are very intimidating.
It helps that you guys have that.
joe rogan
Do you have a spot to hit?
jordan jensen
Totally.
It helps.
I don't think we would mate with you easily without the balls.
joe rogan
Interesting.
jordan jensen
Sometimes when the penis goes in and the balls touch you, you go, oh, yeah, he's just a person.
This is safe.
You know what I mean?
Because you have two squishy guys that are like, don't worry about this fucker.
He's just hard, you know?
But it helps us remember that you're fallible.
joe rogan
The balls do.
unidentified
Totally.
Okay.
If you guys were just rods running around, we'd be like, go away!
joe rogan
Well, imagine if you didn't have to get hard to have sex.
Like, you didn't have to be aroused.
That would be crazy.
Like, animals.
Animals just have a bone.
Oh.
Yeah.
jordan jensen
How do they?
They don't have to get hard.
Uh-uh.
Dogs get the red rocket.
joe rogan
But they have a bone, though.
unidentified
Ew.
joe rogan
There's a bone in there.
jordan jensen
In there?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
You could break your dog's dick?
joe rogan
What is that bone called again?
We have one out there.
A giant fossilized walrus bone.
jamie vernon
Vaculum.
joe rogan
Vaculum.
That's right.
It's a bone.
Yeah.
I think all animals have it except human beings.
jordan jensen
Monkeys can't have it.
joe rogan
Do monkeys have a vaculum?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
Probably not.
They're always jacking off.
jordan jensen
They're always jacking off, dude.
joe rogan
Every zoo you go to.
jordan jensen
You have to cover the children's eyes.
joe rogan
Chimps, gorillas, monkeys.
Oh, it's like it's designed to be jacked off.
It's right there where your hand drops.
jamie vernon
That's some species.
joe rogan
Some species?
jamie vernon
Yeah, only some species.
jordan jensen
But like a little fuzzy ones, but not the ones that look like us.
joe rogan
Deer have it, right?
I'm pretty sure deer do.
Matter of fact, I know they do.
And so do like moose and elk and what mammals don't.
Primates, oh, it's present in some species within the orders of primates.
Rodents and carnivora.
I don't know what that is.
Bears, dogs, and walruses all have a bone.
Because like you don't have time to get hard, okay?
You're out there in the wild.
Shit's crazy.
jordan jensen
They just slide it in?
joe rogan
Just bram it in there.
unidentified
Burp.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
I was just thinking that would be a really fun.
If that's where the term, if you lack a backbone, the back.
jordan jensen
Throw a backstone.
jamie vernon
I don't think that's where it comes from.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
Our primate ancestors did have one, suggesting it was lost through evolution.
That's kind of weird.
Probably lost when the aliens came down and manipulated us.
jordan jensen
When was that lost?
joe rogan
When women don't, really?
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
But cats have like a hook dick where they get stuck.
jordan jensen
A barb.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Have you ever heard cats where they're stuck together?
They're fucking ass to ass and they can't get loose.
They're fucking kicking each other.
Not present in humans.
Present in the peanuts of some primates.
Gorillas and chimpanzees have baculums.
Wow.
unidentified
What?
jordan jensen
Chimpanzees have them?
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Wow.
Rodents, baculums.
jordan jensen
When did we lose them?
What evolutionary step did we take to lose them?
joe rogan
When the aliens came.
jordan jensen
I think it's probably when women started being like, that guy, I want that guy's genes and not that guy's.
Right?
joe rogan
Maybe.
jordan jensen
Because if I kept getting loads blown in me by betas, it doesn't serve our population.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
I have to be like, that alpha male's sick.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
So I'm going to rub my monkey butt.
joe rogan
Like a dick.
jordan jensen
Whereas other species, it's like, it's a free-for-all.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, other species also, I bet we probably got rid of it as soon as we figured out habitation.
So as soon as we figured out homes and doors and we could structure, you know, like keep people out.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah.
So you need to be like that monkey.
Yeah, totally.
jamie vernon
Her theory is in a line with, I think, Richard Dawkins' theory, sort of.
joe rogan
Oh, look at this.
Proposed honest advertising is the evolutionary explanation for the loss of the baculum.
The hypothesis states that if erection failure is a sensitive early warning of ill health, aha, physical or mental, females could have gauged the health of a potential mate based on his ability to achieve erection without the support of a baculum.
jordan jensen
Everybody I date has penis problems.
Every comic needs a blue chew, so I shouldn't be letting any of their baculums in my baculum.
unidentified
Oh, no.
joe rogan
Dude, are you only dating comics?
jordan jensen
Is that I'm not anymore.
I'm done.
But that's what I've done forever.
And musicians, which is the same thing.
joe rogan
Basically.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Same problem.
jordan jensen
But constant blue chew.
It's crazy to be at a group of comics.
joe rogan
Well, that's a crazy new thing, right?
Like, what did they do in the 60s?
jordan jensen
I think they said, hey, I have a problem where sometimes I get hard, don't get hard.
And here's the things I could use from you to help.
unidentified
And now they just go, nope, I'm hard, which is psychic.
joe rogan
Here's the things that I could use for me to help the won't work on everybody.
But this is like the selection thing.
It would keep those guys from breeding.
jordan jensen
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
That's probably what it is.
People of ill health.
Like, this is probably a reason why your dick can't get hard.
jordan jensen
Blue chew dick is so weird.
It feels like a strap-on.
And it's attached to somebody who's anxious.
And then it's just this rock hard dick.
It doesn't make sense.
unidentified
All right.
jordan jensen
Because you're like, this guy's afraid to be here.
And that dick is not.
unidentified
That's somebody else is fucking afraid to be here.
joe rogan
You get guys that are afraid.
jordan jensen
Oh, yeah, totally.
Where they're like, oh, it's not even.
Yeah, there's something about the stand-up and the.
I think people just think that I'm going to be mean to them.
joe rogan
Oh, that's it because you're funny.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
And if you're funny than the guys you're fucking, that's a pro problem.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Which I don't think I've ever had sex with somebody above me in comedy.
unidentified
That's a problem.
jordan jensen
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
They're scared of you.
jordan jensen
I think they're scared of me and they also are scared of, yeah, I think it's mainly they're scared of looking foolish and having to be like you're in her act.
Yeah, totally.
Dude, the amount of dating app people that are like, I don't want to be in your act.
I'm like, fuck you.
We've never even met, you piece of shit.
It's so crazy how many people say that.
joe rogan
Yeah, the dating app thing is wild.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
When I see people just like constantly scrolling and picking people and choosing people, my single friends that are on dating apps, that's an addiction unto itself because there's always someone waiting.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's always some new.
This is not, I don't like the way she smiles.
Fuck this.
I'm out of here.
And then next thing you know, you got three or four more dates lined up.
jordan jensen
Well, it's ruined dating because everybody has a queue of people they can date.
So they go on a date.
I know so many people who are like, I walked out after five minutes and I'm like, you don't know that person.
And also it'd probably benefit you to have an hour-long conversation with somebody.
Like as opposed to being like, sorry, we're not compatible.
joe rogan
Right.
But I think women are worried about guys getting fixated on them and then not leaving them alone and then texting them and fucking with them and then being mean when they get rejected.
jordan jensen
That's the best.
The DMs I have that are like, just please love it.
I love you so much.
And then whore, and I'm like, wow.
I never have responded once.
It's crazy.
They do get fixated for sure.
But then you, yeah, but then you have to, then it teaches you to set boundaries, which is good to be like, hey man, I'm not gonna text with you anymore.
You got to chill.
joe rogan
All that's going to go away when you put on the headset.
jordan jensen
I know.
joe rogan
When it goes, we all lock in.
jordan jensen
And we'll go to tell them fuck off.
joe rogan
Well, you're going to read their minds, too.
You're going to know, oh my God, this guy's a total sociopath.
He doesn't give a fuck about anybody but himself.
Everything he's saying is a lie.
jordan jensen
That's so fucked up.
For people with OCD who are like, what if I kill that cat?
And they just get.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
You'll probably be able to see why they think that way.
Like, oh, no, no, no, you're okay.
Like, you're just freaking out.
And maybe you won't think that way when you're embraced by this hive mind.
Maybe you'll abandon all that.
Maybe that'll be like one of the great side effects of it.
jordan jensen
It would be good for people, like my best friend was paralyzed from the C2 down.
And it'd be good to read her mind and be like, what is actually the pain coming from?
Because she was like, I don't know if there's pain.
unidentified
Right.
jordan jensen
You know?
joe rogan
Well, we had the guy on who had the very first Neuralink, and he's paralyzed.
He paralyzed like a diving accident.
And he uses his head now to control his computer.
Like he can play video games with just the chip.
So he can't move his arms.
And he's playing video games.
And he says, it's like, I have an aim bot because I point to what I want to shoot and like immediately shoot at it.
jordan jensen
Eye movement.
joe rogan
His brain.
His brain moves the cursor around.
jordan jensen
That's awesome.
How?
joe rogan
I don't know.
jordan jensen
Like he just moves it around.
joe rogan
I can feel like somehow or another, the way the computer interfaces with the neurochip, so the brain interfaces with the chip, which interfaces with the computer, and somehow or another, you can control movement.
And they're getting better and better at it.
jordan jensen
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Which is a problem for the people that got the first one.
Okay, you're going to be able to pull that out and give me a new one?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I asked him about that.
I was like, is this it?
And he's like, I think this is the only one that I can get.
I mean, maybe as technology advances, they'll be able to take this one out and put a new one in.
But at one point in time, the wires were coming out and it wasn't working anymore.
So they had to re-inject them back in.
jordan jensen
Shove them back in there?
That's crazy.
I mean, we started doing that with back pain, right?
Where people stick it in to fix the nerves in your back?
joe rogan
Do they?
jordan jensen
Yeah.
My uncle had that.
joe rogan
Well, that's the ultimate goal of Neuralink is to restore movement.
It's going to be able to replace your entire spinal system.
You'll be able to, this thing will tell your muscles and your brain to fire.
So if you're breaking your spinal cord, it'll be able to bridge that and you'll be able to use your body like you normally would.
This is like the ultimate goal.
jordan jensen
That's going to piss me off if this comes out after, because my paralyzed friend has passed away.
I hate that when this stuff comes out.
I'm like, God, you motherfucker.
joe rogan
It's always going to happen that way.
jordan jensen
She was getting into stuff though.
She was getting into ear, ear, ear touch.
joe rogan
If you touch her ears, she'd get pumped.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
That was the thing.
She was getting into all that shit.
She had like a servant that would make art for her.
That was awesome.
So she kind of had it.
She kind of had her own little Neuralink of girls that she paid.
joe rogan
We're probably about five years away from an unrecognizable world.
jordan jensen
You think five years?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jordan jensen
What about structures?
joe rogan
I mean, it'll be recognizable in terms of buildings.
But I think like the way the world interfaces, the way we interface with the world is going to be very different.
jordan jensen
You think it's like walk into a space and it'll be like, welcome, Jordan Jensen.
We have-Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's probably weirder than that because there probably won't be people working there.
jordan jensen
Bro, the Waymo is sick.
joe rogan
You like it?
jordan jensen
I thought-I was so against it.
I got in it.
Not having to talk to some fucker, being able to fart at will.
joe rogan
Right.
jordan jensen
Just-but here's what I'm wondering.
Why don't people go take me to an hour place away and just fuck in it?
It's got to be cheaper than a hotel.
joe rogan
I bet people do.
jordan jensen
Gross.
jamie vernon
This won't go on the freeway yet, but people are definitely doing all that stuff.
jordan jensen
Really?
joe rogan
They're probably fucking-there's got to be cameras filming people fucking-There's cameras that people don't care.
jamie vernon
Yeah, they're like, let's go.
joe rogan
Put on a fucking Nixon mask and fuck.
unidentified
Yeah.
Let's go.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I really like them.
joe rogan
Well, it's certainly probably safer.
You know, they don't really get in that many accidents.
If they do, it's usually somebody else's fault, not the Waymo's fault.
jordan jensen
I'm sick of looking at plane pilots and being like, he's going to be mad.
This is going to be mad.
L.A. I had one that was so caked up.
His ass was so amazing.
It was the worst flight of my life.
I was like, yeah, we can't have these L.A. beautiful Barbies doing this.
He was like a perfect Kendo.
And I was like, this is crazy.
joe rogan
They're going to be replaced.
unidentified
Great.
joe rogan
They're going to be replaced with AI.
AI is going to fly all the planes.
jordan jensen
I would love that.
I hate the idea of these guys getting sleepies.
Really?
I hate that.
No, that's a big part of plane crashes.
joe rogan
How about they have strokes?
They got that fifth booster and they fucking stroke out.
Does that happen?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
jordan jensen
No.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
People are stroked out while they're flying.
jordan jensen
I'm not religious, but the private plane thing freaks me out because I'm worried that if God were to smite one of the planes, he'd be like, yeah, the comic who thinks they're hot shit with a private jet.
Dead.
You're dead.
That one has kids in it.
That's what God's going to do.
joe rogan
Not terrorists.
unidentified
No.
Oh, yeah.
jordan jensen
Not terrorists.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Smite the comic with a big ego.
jordan jensen
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's funny.
The people that take the photos in front of the private jet, they're the ones that are going to get smitten.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You post it right before you get on the plight.
jordan jensen
I worry about that.
unidentified
Looking cool.
jordan jensen
A hundred percent.
joe rogan
Fresh new sneakers.
jordan jensen
You're going down, dude.
joe rogan
Expensive wash.
jordan jensen
I'll look at a plane that I'm on and see if there's kids.
I'm like, oh, we're safe.
We're safe.
God's not going to kill these kids.
joe rogan
That's funny.
jordan jensen
Yeah, totally.
joe rogan
Thank you.
Thanks for being here.
jordan jensen
Thank you.
joe rogan
It's a lot of fun.
jordan jensen
Watch my special.
joe rogan
It's available right now on Netflix.
What's it called?
jordan jensen
Today.
It came out today.
joe rogan
Today.
jordan jensen
Take me with you.
joe rogan
Take me with you.
All right.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
jordan jensen
Thanks for having me.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
I'll see you tonight.
What else have fun?
unidentified
Hell yeah.
All right.
joe rogan
Bye, everybody.
unidentified
Your season.
joe rogan
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