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Joe Rogan Experience #2377 - Carrot Top
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carrot top
All right, man.
joe rogan
That's a man.
carrot top
Very, very good.
joe rogan
It's very funny.
You brought a box of your stuff, and one of them immediately started going off like it's an alarm.
unidentified
What is it?
That's hella.
carrot top
It was a FedEx box.
unidentified
Yeah.
carrot top
It's that commercial that runs for late night Viagra Seattle.
And it says, hey, we'll send you your Seattle's in Viagra and unmarked white envelopes.
And I would say, fuck that.
I want just the opposite.
I want my neighbors to know I'm getting laid.
I want my neighbors to know I have a hard dick.
So it's got sirens and whistles.
My dick's hard.
My dick is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
And that's, you know, engineering.
joe rogan
We were just talking about you the other night at the comedy club.
We were like, he owns props.
Like, you can't do props now.
When I was a kid, when I first started doing stand-up, and I'm sure you too, there were prop comics.
carrot top
Sure.
joe rogan
There was a bunch of guys.
carrot top
Yeah, the WID.
joe rogan
The WID.
Yeah, there was quite a few guys that were really good.
They were prop com, but you became so successful as a prop comic, you kind of stole the market.
carrot top
Oh.
joe rogan
No young comics coming up.
carrot top
Nobody wants to be a Carrotom.
I think that's what it is.
I give it shit I still get.
So you can look for a long time.
joe rogan
I don't think you get shit anymore.
carrot top
No, not as much.
No.
But you still get the aftermath of it.
Like just on the plane today, somebody's like, I don't care what.
What are you doing?
I said, I'm doing rogue.
And they say, oh, man, I don't care what everybody else says.
You're funny.
I'm like, who is everybody?
But who's everybody else?
joe rogan
Who's the man is that?
unidentified
Yeah.
carrot top
Well, they get that.
I get that a lot.
You know, all the people that hate you.
I personally think you're funny.
That kind of stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I'm one of the rare.
I'm one of the rare ones that thinks you're good.
carrot top
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Exactly.
I had to beg my mom to come.
She did not want to come.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's such a weird thing.
carrot top
We get a lot of that, right?
joe rogan
Well, we talked about that the last time.
I think you took way too much shit from comedians, and I never understood it.
The weird thing that comedians do where they hate on other comedians, like, good Lord, we live in a world that is filled with war and famine and disease and pollution and garbage and chaos and corruption.
And you want to concentrate on a prop comic?
Is that really what the problem is in this world?
unidentified
Right.
carrot top
Is my comic.
It's true.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And it's almost always comics that are doing better than you.
unidentified
Yes.
carrot top
I think we tried breaking it down last time as to why.
And I think it was only because I think one, I did get successful.
And it wasn't quick, quick, but it was quicker than maybe most.
Because I hit the scene right at the right time.
I had the act that was, you know, it was perfect for television, right?
Because it's visuals.
And I got a little success, and I think people were like, you know, they would ask Jay, you know, why do you have Carrotop on like every month?
unidentified
And Jay was like, brings the gun.
You did a good job.
You should get something.
carrot top
But I do remember the comedy, the evening at the improv.
And I played mostly that and the other one, the Cheesecake Factory, what it was.
And then the comedy store was more, admits he loved me, but I never really played there a lot.
So Bud loved me.
One night I came in.
I said, you know, I had my little background.
Bud Friedman from the Bud Friedman.
Improv, sorry.
And I had my box of stuff.
And he always loved me.
You know, he says, oh, man, you know, there's no spots tonight.
And I said, well, I drug it all the way.
You know, fuck.
And he's like, I'll see if I can get you in somewhere.
So the tonight show, bookers were there that night.
Jim McCauley and these people were there to pick, watch comics and pick them for the tonight show.
So he's like, hey, you know what?
I'm going to slide you in.
They're going to love you.
So I go up and I had the best set ever I've ever had.
It was just a magical night.
And I don't know if I was just, I knew they were there.
Every comic was coming up going, Jesus, dude.
Fuck, I mean, leveled it, right?
And Jim McCauley walks up and he says, that was amazing.
And I said, oh, thanks.
I said, you booked the tonight show.
You think that maybe I could get on?
And he said, not a chance in hell.
And I was like, I had just killed.
I go, why?
He says, you're not, Johnny would never book you.
And I said, why?
I said, but you booked the show, right?
He goes, he would never allow it.
I said, why?
joe rogan
Johnny Carson.
unidentified
Yeah.
carrot top
I said, why?
He says, he hates variety.
What a weird thing.
And I stopped in the middle of my, and I'm like, the whole fucking tonight shows variety.
The carnac, the throwing of the hatchets, every fucking thing they do.
Ed McMahon's a fucking prop, right?
The whole thing is.
joe rogan
They bring on animals.
carrot top
Animals.
You think I'm kidding, right?
So I'm like, well, okay.
And then finally, I mean, I'm talking like two weeks after Johnny left, I was on with Jay.
And it was just like literally.
But the weird part about it was it still was the same studio.
You know, they had the blue, you know, the gold star.
So you're standing right where Johnny was, and the same, like, Ed DeCordova was still in the booth, and everyone was still like there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
So you felt like it was the tonight show.
But how weird is that?
Like, no, you know, don't like variety.
And then I would get, you know, singled out because I would do Leno so many times.
I'd ask if I could do Letterman.
They said, no, you're Team Leno.
I'm like, oh.
It's like that Twilight movie.
I'm not team fucking whatever.
There's two teams.
joe rogan
Thank God that doesn't exist in podcasts.
It's a disgusting fucking thing where if you were on one person's side, you're the animal.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
carrot top
Ugh.
joe rogan
Probably Leno.
How stupid is that?
carrot top
That I was, I guess.
joe rogan
Well, it was such famine thinking back then because there was only a certain amount of on there.
Well, I never thought it was a wig.
carrot top
No, people have that thing on straight.
joe rogan
Isn't it weird that women can wear wigs?
No problem at all.
A man wears a wig.
carrot top
It's pathetic.
You're a loser.
unidentified
Absolutely.
joe rogan
The man with a hair.
carrot top
Nice hair piece.
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
Or implants.
I lived in L.A., this is true.
I lived in LA.
I'd go to Gold's gym, and my hair was even more out of control.
I had big ass hair.
joe rogan
Yeah, you had a giant frog once.
carrot top
Fucking arms.
And these ladies were behind me.
And they're like, oh, my God, look at that woman's arms, right?
Seriously, had makeup at the end of the whole nine yards.
And they were just amazed.
And they came over and said, how do you get your arms that big?
And I turned around.
I said, I don't know.
You know, arm workout.
And she's like, oh, and I could see their face turned.
Like, I would say, dude.
But I was kind of, you know, pretty that.
I was like, you know, younger, a lot of hair and makeup.
And then that same gym one day, I'm working out.
This guy says, nice arms.
And I said, thanks.
He's like, who did the work, right?
And I thought he's making it.
I said, I didn't.
I put in the fucking work.
You know, like, who works out for me?
He's like, no, no, no.
I mean, implants, right?
I'm like, only in L.A. would you have someone at a gym walk up and say, oh, yeah, implants?
Yeah, I have implants.
You fucking go to the gym and you do curls.
joe rogan
You're not going to work out, assuming that someone has implants is pretty wild.
carrot top
But I don't have that big of, I mean, this guy thought I, you know, I have.
joe rogan
But that's how gross L.A. is.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's like the default assumption is that everything's fake.
carrot top
No matter what.
joe rogan
Where'd you get your butt?
carrot top
Who did your butt?
joe rogan
Where'd you get your nose done?
Yeah.
It's always.
carrot top
No, it's true.
joe rogan
No one wants to believe that.
carrot top
Who does your plugs?
joe rogan
Yeah, no one wants to believe that you're natural.
carrot top
Another thing I got, too, weird.
I just had a guy today at the airport.
He said, hey, you still working out?
And I'm like, you're supposed to say, I see you're still working out, right?
You don't ask him if you're still working out.
That means you don't look like you work out.
unidentified
Well, I think he's probably just trying to start a conversation with you.
carrot top
No, I did.
I said, you mean, I see you're still, and he goes, yeah, what did I say?
I said, you said, do you still work out?
joe rogan
Yeah.
And what's the answer to that?
You just say, yes.
carrot top
I say, no, no.
Yeah.
No, I said, I'm not feeling well.
joe rogan
I'm dying.
carrot top
I'm dying.
Yeah.
Oh, you didn't hear?
Like, well.
It's radiation poisoning.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Something happened.
One of my toys.
carrot top
They always say you lift lights.
I hate that too.
I'm in the gym.
You always lift light.
joe rogan
What was that?
carrot top
I guess it means I don't lift.
I do weights.
I don't do heavy weights.
I don't have spotters.
I just do cables and do some dumbbells.
But people always say that.
You always work light.
Like, fuck.
unidentified
People are silly.
carrot top
I'm heavy for me.
joe rogan
People are silly.
There's a lot of people that just don't know what to say.
You know, they meet someone famous.
Oh, no, no.
They don't know what to say.
They just get weird.
carrot top
They do.
joe rogan
And then afterwards, they probably leave and go, why the fuck did I say that?
carrot top
I say that.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
I feel so stupid.
I've done that before.
Meet famous people, act like an idiot.
And you're like, what?
Shit.
unidentified
So I try to give people a little grace.
carrot top
I am so true of that.
If I see celebrity, I'm like, oh, I'm not going to.
Hey, Pan, I'm going to fuck that up, really, right?
joe rogan
Do you get a lot of people coming to your shows that are famous?
unidentified
You must have.
carrot top
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
We have.
We had a guy last night.
We had a guy here, Chris Jericho, who was at the show last night, and he said inside you.
joe rogan
The wrestler?
carrot top
The wrestler?
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, cool.
carrot top
Real nice guy.
joe rogan
You've been at the Luxor for how long now?
carrot top
19, coming up on 20.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
carrot top
Yeah, November.
joe rogan
You probably have the longest residency of anybody in Vegas.
Other than like Pennsylvania.
carrot top
They were just talking to me.
But they don't count because one only talks.
joe rogan
They've been there forever.
carrot top
They've been there forever.
joe rogan
I remember I saw them there in 94.
94?
98.
98.
I saw them there in 98.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
At the Rio, back when the Rio was nice.
carrot top
Yeah, right?
joe rogan
Now it's like, you've got to wear a bulletproof vest along the way.
carrot top
They should just light it up shithole.
joe rogan
It's a weird place.
It's weird how some of those places just they just fall off.
They just get tired and then no one wants to go there anymore.
But then if they last long enough, then they become like circus circus where they're fun.
carrot top
Right, right.
joe rogan
It's fun to go there.
carrot top
No, it is.
And in Luxor, they just did a whole big revamp on it and nice.
It's a beautiful hotel.
Every time I walk in, it's just spectacular to see how they made that.
joe rogan
Well, I'm obsessed by Egypt.
So for me, it's like, I wish the Luxor was the best hotel.
I stay there every time.
Because it's a fucking giant pyramid.
We actually have a lot of people who are in the house.
carrot top
I mean, it is the best hotel.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, for sure.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
For you.
We did a Fear Factor stunt where people had to slide down the Luxor once.
carrot top
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They had to grab flags on the way down.
They had to slide down.
carrot top
See, I'm not doing that.
joe rogan
Pretty crazy.
Pretty ridiculous back in the day.
carrot top
That is crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
20 fucking years, man.
That's a long ass time to be doing a residency.
So before that, you were doing colleges and you were touring.
Do you miss any of that?
You do a little touristy.
carrot top
We do a little touring now and then, but it's only when I get off time.
So if I get a week off, like I'm here.
I could be home in my boat, but I'm here.
unidentified
Right.
carrot top
I do road shows, but you got to take a break here and there because you can't kill yourself.
But I like the, you know, I like the touring.
I like the bus.
You feel like a rock star.
You pull up on a bus and you got the big venue and there's a sound check and there's people and meeting.
We have that, the luxury, but not like, you know, people hanging out by the bus.
I get people like, hey, you fucked my mom.
I'm like, great.
Now you're getting old.
84.
Remember that?
That used to be fucked me.
Now, hey, you fucked my mom.
Pretty soon it'll be, you blew my grandpa.
You know, it'd be something, it'll be something.
Wait, his grandpa blew me.
Your grandpa blew me.
Let's get this.
joe rogan
Your grandpa's a liar.
carrot top
First of all, your grandpa's alive.
joe rogan
He's dead.
I'm sorry.
On his deathbed.
unidentified
You know, carrot top blooming one.
carrot top
Thank God he's dead.
You can't sell anybody.
joe rogan
The one thing that's good about not touring, though, like, because I mostly just work my club now, is I never feel tired.
Like, the traveling tiredness is horrible.
You realize how bad it is to be flying all the time.
carrot top
That is one great advantage of having the show every night at the Luxor because I leave my house.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Sleep in your own bed.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
carrot top
I'm home by 10.30, 11 latest.
joe rogan
That is a huge plus.
That's a huge plus.
carrot top
Yep, because the road is.
It can tear you up.
But like I said, there's the ups and pluses and minuses of it.
It's fun.
You're in a rock.
You're a rock band, you know.
joe rogan
There's pluses and minuses, but for me, I mean, this is the first time in my life where I haven't toured the last few years, last three, four years.
carrot top
And it's nice.
joe rogan
Well, I guess three years ago I was touring still.
Like two years, the last two years.
I've just, since the club opened, I just stopped.
And it's been amazing.
I love it.
carrot top
Perfect.
joe rogan
You know, all my friends are doing arenas.
They send me pictures.
Yeah, fine.
carrot top
I don't want to do it.
joe rogan
I fucking want to get out there.
I probably will once I make a new hour.
Because right now I'm at like 40-something minutes.
Once I get a full new hour, I'll probably do some tour dates just for the fuck of it.
But being at home has giant advantages.
You don't realize how much you're destroying your body until you stop doing it.
carrot top
Yeah, the show is nice for that reason, too.
I mean, you have a normal day.
I had a dog for a bit.
You can take a dog and go to work and come home.
You're watching Sports Center at 10.30.
joe rogan
Do you feel weird living in Vegas?
Vegas is an odd place.
It's like you have to find...
carrot top
Well, I live in the Summerlin area where it's like normal.
Yeah, so it's a normal suburby.
joe rogan
But then you go to work inside the Devil's Ball.
carrot top
Then I go inside the Devil's Ball, a good way to put it.
And yeah.
And then I leave down the shaft back to Summerlin.
joe rogan
It spits you right out there.
carrot top
I had the tip into Summerlin.
Whew, we're home.
That was hell.
I mean, I find it funny.
There's a college there and a big college, UNLV.
I find that funny because you imagine asking your parents, like, hey, I want to go to college.
And they're like, oh, right on.
Where are you going to go?
Michigan, Iowa?
You're like, I'm thinking about Vegas.
unidentified
Good school.
carrot top
Now you're fucking not going to Vegas for college.
joe rogan
My buddy Sam Tripley went there.
carrot top
Yeah?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a good college.
carrot top
I mean, it's a good college, I'm just saying, you know, for the joke purposes.
joe rogan
Well, it seems like Vegas has become more of a community now, right?
They have the Raiders now.
Aren't they getting amazing?
carrot top
Golden Knights.
Yeah.
Yeah, they're Golden Knights.
joe rogan
Do they?
carrot top
Hockey.
joe rogan
Hockey.
Right, that's right.
They've got a hockey team now.
And always have fights.
unidentified
Fights.
carrot top
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Almost every week.
carrot top
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
Some kind of boxing or UFC event or something.
carrot top
And they're talking of building the baseball stadium, I think.
I heard the A's.
joe rogan
That's nice.
What's going to be the Vegas A's?
carrot top
That's going to be weird.
I guess, yeah, I don't know.
joe rogan
Is it the Vegas Raiders?
Is that what they call themselves?
carrot top
Yeah, Las Vegas Raiders.
joe rogan
That's weird.
carrot top
Yeah.
Even the comments here are like, yeah, Oakland's.
You can't say Oakland Raiders.
You can't, yeah.
It takes a long time.
People still say Washington Redskins.
Just every Chris Collinsworth last week.
You know, the Redskin.
joe rogan
What do they call themselves now?
The Redskins.
carrot top
The Commanders.
And you're talking, this is pretty good.
I'm like a sports guy.
I know this stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
carrot top
Commanders.
joe rogan
Yeah, Renskid's a weird one, though.
carrot top
Washington Commanders.
joe rogan
That one's problematic.
Yeah.
carrot top
Well, there's a lot of them, I guess, though.
There's some articles someone did.
It was really great.
It broke down everything that could be like the Braves, the thing, the Chiefs.
They went through all these different things.
We'd have to get rid of everything.
joe rogan
How about Notre Dame?
carrot top
The only thing left was like the dolphins.
It's a dolphin.
You can't hurt a dolphin.
joe rogan
Yeah, but then there's dolphins in captivity.
It's kind of gross that you're capitalizing on dolphins in captivity.
There was a lot of people that were upset about the Notre Dame using the fighting Irish.
Using that little leprechaun guy.
carrot top
Right, yeah, right, right.
Yeah.
I think they're going to have a problem with everything.
I mean, you know, geez, Louise.
joe rogan
Yep.
carrot top
That's all it is.
joe rogan
You ever get protested?
carrot top
No.
No, you should be shocked.
No, I haven't, but I thought I had a nightmare one, not that I did.
Like, it was just, you know, it would just be people outside the Luxor just mad about something.
No, but I thought about that because I know people have been.
Have you been?
Oh, yeah.
See, that's so strange.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Minor, just a bunch of people mad about something.
carrot top
We hate bald guys.
joe rogan
It's always something.
Whatever it is.
People just get upset.
It's always a small group of people because it's actually organized by actual humans versus like these crowdfunded ones where they show up on tour buses and they all have professionally handed doing they're all getting paid to protest.
That's a weird thing that they're doing today.
That didn't exist when I was a kid.
Like paid protesters.
carrot top
I don't think so.
joe rogan
I was watching a documentary on it on YouTube the other day that was they followed this woman who is a professional paid protester and she goes from free Palestine to this to that to she's been doing it for years.
She goes from one protest to the next.
carrot top
That's her job.
joe rogan
That's her job.
Yeah.
And she makes X amount $100 a day.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And they fly around.
carrot top
Fuck, stays at the four seasons, maybe else.
joe rogan
I think that kind of should be illegal.
carrot top
Yeah, it kind of.
joe rogan
Yeah, because it's kind of a lie.
It's kind of fraud.
carrot top
It's beyond fraud.
And whoever's funding it is right.
Who's paying them?
joe rogan
It's usually NGOs, non-government organizations that get taxpayer money, unfortunately.
But it's a weird thing where you're pretending that these people are outraged when they really just want to sandwich.
carrot top
You see them all the time in the news, yeah.
And people don't know the real, right?
They don't know they're not real.
unidentified
No, but it's not.
carrot top
Until somebody points it out like you just did, and then they get exposed, and then people are like, no.
You're just listening to the hype of the, what do you call the, you know, the, what do you call it?
When they say something, you know.
joe rogan
Propaganda?
carrot top
Propaganda.
Or the other one where they're like, oh, that's just, you know, the world's flat and that kind of conspiracy theories.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
carrot top
So I love those because I, you know, with my dad working at NASA, I would always answer, ask people like, what do you think?
Would your dad do at NASA?
He was an engineer.
He trained the astronauts in the simulation.
Did you?
unidentified
Nice.
carrot top
Yes.
unidentified
Yes.
carrot top
I wish my dad was alive.
He'd punch you right now.
Oh, yeah.
Because my dad, I slip.
unidentified
I move.
carrot top
Yeah.
No, because we just had a discussion backstage.
God dang, a couple days ago.
I don't know what something had, something happened about a flag or something.
It was something about a flag.
joe rogan
A flag waving on the moon?
carrot top
No, it was something about a flag, like burning flag, something.
And I said, my friend said, that's an interesting question.
I wonder if the flag is still on the moon.
And I said, that's a great question.
Like, it was one of those you had to break it down, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
So I'd say, well, my dad would know.
And I guess I'm not the brightest guy, but I would do like an engineer would break it down.
Well, there's not, you know, there's no wind on the moon.
I mean, there might be cosmic something wind up there, but it's not, right?
And there's nothing that's going to deteriorate the flag.
So it's probably still there.
joe rogan
Unless it got hit by micrometeorites.
carrot top
Other than that, it would be right.
joe rogan
Because there's no atmosphere on the moon, or a very, very thin atmosphere.
So it gets pelted all the time.
carrot top
Right.
The only thing that would probably the fuckers put it.
But my dad trained him to drive that little lunar rover.
And so the joke I was going to put in the show, I said, you know, NASA can now, they're good.
They can zoom in and look at it.
So here's the NASA zoom in on the moon.
You see the flag.
See, I told you the fucking moon's still there.
And then we pan over and there's the Land Rover, but it's up on blocks and they've looted it and taken all the heels off of it.
Said, see, the fucking thing.
They've already stole it.
They've already tearing it.
joe rogan
They did take photos.
I think it was India.
Was it India or China?
One of the satellites that they had hovering the moon took appropriately blurry, ambiguous photos of what they claim was the landing site.
Like where the lunar module was and where the buggy is.
carrot top
That would be the punch on the end.
Of course it's still there in some sound stage in L.A. I think the sound stage is probably in Vegas.
I think it was out in the middle of the Summerlin.
It might be near my house.
joe rogan
Could be.
I think it's out where they film, where they do like UFO back engineering.
carrot top
Yeah, maybe.
joe rogan
That's another weird thing.
You're right where the Luxor is, is right across the street from where those guys take off to get Area 51.
carrot top
My brother flew those.
unidentified
Really?
carrot top
Yeah.
unidentified
Whoa.
carrot top
Here's the crazy thing.
My brother was Air Force, and so he retired Air Force F-16 fighter jet pilot.
And now for about three years, he flew those red-striped planes.
And the weird thing is I'm in the Luxor when I first got the gig, and I was in the, and my room was at the top of the, not with the, not on the light, that'd be a horrible room to be in.
People are like, is it your room with the light on it?
Yeah, my room was with the light in it.
joe rogan
For people that don't know, there's a giant light off.
But they actually had a tone down because it was interfering flights.
carrot top
It was indeed.
There's three things you can see from outer space, by the way.
The Great Wall of China, the Luxor Light, and Mike Cock.
Thank you.
I'm here all week, Trendor Wayne.
I'm actually here all week.
unidentified
All week.
carrot top
So I'm looking out the window, right?
Every morning, I would look out, and I'd see the planes, and I didn't know what they were.
I thought they were some private guy, you know, a big billionaire that has all these jets out there.
They were blue.
So I thought, oh, this is another billion of red jets.
And so then there's four channels on my TV.
It was like when I was a kid, right?
And the Luxor.
It was just the Luxor channel.
So the Luxor channel would have on a loop every day, this goddamn thing about the red striped planes.
And this is real, right?
So I'm watching it, and they're like, no one in the world knows where these red striped planes are.
They fly out of a secret location.
I swear to God, in the West, I'm like, I'm looking out my window, like, they're fucking right there.
And it's serious.
Like, no one knows for years.
People have tried to discover where the red planes fly in and out of.
And I'm like, this is a joke.
So I called my brother and I said, you know, he fly.
I said, this thing says that you're like top secret.
You don't fly anymore.
Yeah, I don't even know what you're talking about.
You know, my brother can't tell me.
He wouldn't tell me.
I just thought that was so crazy.
I'm like, there's a whole show saying there's no red planes and there's a mystery to if you could find them.
And I'm like, everybody knows where they are.
You can zoom in and take a picture of it.
joe rogan
That's ridiculous.
Everybody literally knows where they are.
You could see them from Mandalay Bay.
carrot top
Unless they are fake ones.
They're the ones that the decoy.
The decoy.
Yeah, just like the 747, then they have the other 747.
joe rogan
Yeah, when Bob Lazar was working on back engineering UFOs, allegedly, that's where he used to fly out of.
They'd pick him up there and he'd fly over to Area S4.
Quick, quick little flight out into the middle of Groom Lake.
carrot top
Quick layover and come back.
joe rogan
They'd get out and they'd say, figure this thing out.
carrot top
Jeez.
joe rogan
Allegedly.
carrot top
Allegedly.
joe rogan
Supposedly looks like that.
That one right there.
Right.
carrot top
Well, I thought that was a symbol of ACDC's album.
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
Doesn't it?
joe rogan
It looks a little bit like that.
No, it's this.
That's the sport model.
That's what Bob supposedly was working on in Area 651.
Yeah.
You know, who knows?
It's fun.
carrot top
Yeah.
I love all that space stuff.
Yeah.
joe rogan
But when you're looking at those actual planes, I'd like to talk to one of those guys.
They tell you, though, then they're fucked.
carrot top
Oh, yeah.
Like my brother's like, what are you talking about?
He would not.
No, he said, you know, I work at In-N-Out.
No, you don't.
You fly this plane.
Tell me more.
joe rogan
He wouldn't tell you nothing?
carrot top
No.
joe rogan
Even if they put the phones down and go for a walk?
carrot top
No, no.
joe rogan
Nothing?
Your own brother?
carrot top
Yep.
joe rogan
If you were my brother, I'd tell you everything.
unidentified
Would you?
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
carrot top
I would too.
I don't see, I can't keep a secret.
That's why I was like, that's why you're not in the main.
Exactly why they wouldn't hire you.
joe rogan
People always ask me, like, does anybody ever tell you secret, top-secret information?
I'm like, no, I have a big fucking mouth.
carrot top
Exactly right.
joe rogan
If they told me that UFOs are real, I'd be like, look, I'm sorry.
Maybe they're going to put me in jail, but I have to tell you.
carrot top
I always have that question, too, honestly, about people that have had security clearances and that.
And then they revoke them and they get rid of them.
unidentified
Yeah.
carrot top
My biggest.
unidentified
I know these things.
joe rogan
Those are not working.
carrot top
Yeah, these aren't working.
joe rogan
There's something about your hair.
unidentified
Yeah.
carrot top
My physique.
unidentified
Let's just go headset, Leslie.
joe rogan
Oh, feel better.
carrot top
Oh.
It was a struggle.
Can I take my pants off too?
This is a pants.
No headphone, no pant wearing the zone.
joe rogan
You probably have extra pants in there anyway.
carrot top
I do probably have something in there.
I knew I used to do it.
Do you even know what's in there?
Do you still structure your show or do you just reach in and the show is structured?
But when I come and do little things, there's not at all.
There's nothing zero.
joe rogan
Do you ever do guest sets like at a comedy club?
carrot top
I used to make a thing.
Do you do it these days?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No?
carrot top
I mean, to kind of do like, this is what I'm doing today with Tony.
I bring a little bit of it.
joe rogan
Last time he did it.
It was very fun.
I saw some of the stuff that I was doing.
carrot top
Yeah, he said to me, I was at home.
I said, I don't really want to do props.
I want to talk.
I'm going to do, I want to be, you know, not carrot top.
He says, but that's what I want.
I want you to be that.
And he was right.
Because he was right.
It was both, right?
It was fun to talk, be funny without doing props, and then go in and show some of the stuff.
And he was beside himself.
He said, Are you here tomorrow night?
I'm here.
No.
joe rogan
No.
carrot top
To tonight.
joe rogan
I have a show there tomorrow night.
carrot top
Ah, shit, I would.
joe rogan
I was going to say, it'd be fun if you.
carrot top
Oh, that would be awesome.
Oh, man.
I would have done that in a heartbeat.
joe rogan
Another time.
He'll be back.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
Next time I was planning on that.
carrot top
Yeah, that would be fun.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
I just had Ron White come up on stage just last Friday.
joe rogan
Oh, he was in Vegas?
carrot top
He was in Vegas and he came out.
You know, Ron's just a hoot.
He says, he comes in, and I said, you know, I said, well, I thought, you know, what do you want me to do?
I said, well, you just do what I, you know, don't, you know, stress it out.
Don't come out and do 20 minutes.
Just, I think just poke your head out.
I have a bit in my act where I talk about my dad working at NASA and training astronauts.
And it says like Neil Armstrong and John Glenn.
All these pictures come up and Katie Perry.
And everybody goes, ah.
I said, if my dad was alive, you could hear him right now.
And he goes, what the fuck?
And I got Ron White to do the voice for it, right?
So the crowd, they already know it.
You just hear his voice.
What the fuck?
And everybody's like, Ron, why?
So I said, that sounds like Ron White.
And I said, fucking, sounds a lot like Ron White.
And he walks out and he goes, well, no shit, Sherlock.
And the crowd loses it, right?
And he's so nice.
I was going to come out here and say something, but you're fucking, I was having a good set.
Fucking blowing the roof all of the fucking place.
And so he says, do you still want it?
I said, no, dude, joke.
unidentified
All right.
carrot top
I'll do it.
And he did some joke.
And it was great because I'm watching the whole show.
He's like one of my men, you know, heroes in life.
He's sitting there watching the show.
Then he's gone for like, I don't know, his bits coming up.
I don't know where he is.
And you could smell pot, the whole theater.
So I smell like, since it's not a joke.
And I'm like, oh, fuck.
I hope it's, I mean, Ron, you can't smoke weed in here.
So I go off after you get, he comes out and he's just, he just, it comes.
So I said, all right, no hand for Ron White.
And I did some kind of, I said, and if you smell weed, it's probably.
He's back.
He goes back in my dress.
Now, there's another show back that's back down in there, all these stripper girls.
And he's, they're all like, hey, I didn't know you partied.
And I'm like, what?
Like, I didn't know you party.
I've been there 19 years.
I'm like, I don't party.
They're like, no, that's, oh, that's my friend Ron.
He's smoking weed.
They're like, holy geez, got good shit.
I mean, it would just bellow through the whole lobby out into the lobby.
joe rogan
Yeah, he can go hard.
Oh, he goes, I've smoked weed with him and then done a set.
Oh my God, what am I talking about?
carrot top
Yeah, no.
He was so bellitor.
And then he left his weed and his wallet in my dressing room.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
unidentified
He stealed his wallet?
carrot top
Yeah, fuck.
I still love his wallet.
And his weed.
joe rogan
He's here.
He lives here.
carrot top
I know.
He said he might surprise me today later.
Oh, nice.
And you've done.
I do shows with him every week.
unidentified
Every week.
carrot top
It's not great.
He's the biggest.
joe rogan
He's one of the main reasons why I moved here.
Oh, that's crazy.
He moved here in 2000, I think, 17 or 18, I think 18.
And I was like, Wait, where are you, man?
I miss you.
He's like, I moved back to Austin.
I fucking love it.
It's in the middle of the country.
I can fly here from everywhere.
It's like three hours, no matter where you go.
unidentified
Three hours in New York, three hours to LA, perfectly centrally located.
joe rogan
People are nice.
Food's great.
I was like, all right.
He's right.
You got me thinking about Austin.
And then when the pandemic hit, I was like, well, if I move to Austin, at the very least, Ron's going to be there.
I'm like, there's a good comedy club there.
But the comedy club had already closed.
I'm like, but at least Ron's there.
I'll have a friend.
I just had to get out of L.A. And he was just raving about how good.
Come on down, man.
Austin's fucking awesome.
unidentified
He's good, fucking hell.
carrot top
Yeah, good weed.
joe rogan
He's also the one who talked me into opening up a club.
carrot top
Awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was totally Ron.
He hadn't done, it's a really funny story.
He hadn't done stand-up in like eight months.
He goes, I'm fucking retired because it was the pandemic and all the chaos.
I'm fucking retired.
I'm done.
I got plenty of money.
I'm just going to enjoy life.
And this one, like, okay.
Come on, man.
Really?
I'm like, you're so funny.
I just can't believe that.
And so then Tony put on a show at the Vulcan.
Tony had done like one or two shows indoors, which was crazy.
Like, oh my God, we're doing shows indoors in 2020.
This is massive.
And in LA, people are freaking out.
unidentified
You're killing Brittany.
carrot top
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
So Ron was like, oh, fuck it.
I don't even know if I'm going to do a set.
And then he decided to go on stage.
He went on stage.
The audience went fucking bananas.
He got a huge standing ovation the moment he went on stage, murdered.
I mean, murdered for 15 minutes.
And then he came off stage and he grabbed me by my shoulders.
unidentified
And he goes, whatever the fuck we have to do, we're going to keep doing this.
joe rogan
You got to open that club.
unidentified
I'm like, okay, okay.
carrot top
That's great.
joe rogan
That was the beginning of the comedy mothership.
It was Ron White.
carrot top
How great is that?
joe rogan
Yeah, he was the original.
He was the Christopher Columbus, but that's a bad example because that guy was a real piece of shit.
You know, he was the original pioneer that came here.
carrot top
Yeah, crazy.
We went out.
I'll do one more Ron White story because it's just incredible.
I go, we go out and there's a little fancy, like one of these posh little bars down somewhere in the fancy hotel.
And I even said, where do you want to go?
And he says, this is kind of like, you know, I thought we go to a bar.
He said, let's go to the one at the Area or whatever.
So we go and it's real fancy.
And we sit down and the waitress walks over to us.
And there's three of us.
His wife, his girlfriend, me, my friend.
And I said, let's do a Crown of the Rocks.
And I'll have a glass of wine.
And as I look over to his wife, I said, Would you like a damn, someone smoking weed?
And Ron is literally, he looks at me.
He's like, well, no fucking shit.
And I go, Ron, you can't smoke pot in here.
He goes, the hell, who the hell is going to throw Ron White and Keratop out of a fucking bar?
And within seconds, Metro is standing there going, You guys get the fuck out of here.
And Ron's like, You got to be fucking shit.
I said, Ron, you can't, like, he just, the cops are there.
And he's like, well, they're good.
They're good.
I said, no, we're not good.
We got to go.
He just thought he, who's going to, he did that my backstage this last week.
I said, you can't smoke pot back here.
He's, it's your fucking dressing room.
What does that mean?
It means you can't look.
No, because I've got the other people, the girls, the show.
joe rogan
Oh, the next show.
carrot top
There's a lot of other people back that I can't do.
joe rogan
The next show is like strippers?
carrot top
It's called Fantasy.
Yeah.
It's like my, it's like a lot like my show, except it's funnier and there's naked people.
So, yeah.
joe rogan
What is it?
carrot top
It's just a girls' dancing review show.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
They used to have something like that.
It was called Crazy Girls.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
There was like comedians would host it.
Yeah.
carrot top
That was kind of like this one.
They haven't even, they have it have a comic in the middle.
And the girls, yeah.
It's a good show.
They've been there for a while.
joe rogan
It's for people that want an excuse to see strippers, but they don't want to go to a strip club.
carrot top
Oh, right, right.
unidentified
So they just take a date to a show.
carrot top
Right.
unidentified
Right.
carrot top
Some titties.
That's smart, isn't it?
Say we didn't go to a strip club, honey.
We went to a fancy titty bar.
joe rogan
Vegas is just such an odd place.
There's nothing like that place.
It's so strange.
It's just got such a history.
First of all, the beginning of it, right?
It's founded by the mob.
Like, they literally want a place where they can get gambling.
And then, in order to have legal gambling, there's probably some sort of a deal where they let the government blow nukes off in the middle of the fucking mountains.
So there's spots out there where you really can't even visit because they detonated 50, 60 nukes.
That's what killed John Wayne, you know.
carrot top
Vegas?
joe rogan
John Wayne was doing a movie in Nevada about Genghis Khan.
It's a terrible movie.
And he did that movie, and a giant percentage of the people that worked on the movie got cancer from it.
carrot top
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Because they were literally like right down the road from one of the test sites.
carrot top
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
That's crazy.
joe rogan
It's fucked, right?
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I always thought that's probably one of the reasons why they allowed them to do the gambling thing there.
They probably made some sort of a deal.
Like, yeah, you can have gambling, but this is what we want to do.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
We want to blow off nukes.
carrot top
Jesus.
I feel like that sometimes when I'm on stage at the Luxor, something comes down and the crowd can see it, just a particle of something.
It's always like, oh, it's nice.
The place is fine.
It's just asbestos.
joe rogan
Well, it's not nukes.
Luxor was built in like, what, the early 2000s?
carrot top
Yeah, no, it wouldn't be new.
It wouldn't be nuclear stuff.
joe rogan
What was that place built?
carrot top
Yeah, something like that.
Like 2000 or something like that?
joe rogan
Because when we filmed Fear Factor, there was like 2000.
carrot top
About 2000.
Yeah, there were 20 of them.
Yeah, 2000.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So I don't think they use asbestos, but it's just such a weird place.
93.
Oh, wow.
No kidding.
carrot top
Oh, shit.
We're way off.
And I worked there.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
Not too far off.
10 years.
Wow.
carrot top
Look at that.
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joe rogan
It was a great idea.
carrot top
Yeah, it's still phenomenal.
You walk inside it.
It's just breathtaking.
joe rogan
I was there recently.
carrot top
I went to see you walking into it.
You walk in, it's like I just do a joke like this.
Yeah, I got, I had sex on a really hot chicken, and then they finally threw me out of the Bodies exhibit or something.
unidentified
That bodies exhibit is fucking creepy.
joe rogan
Do you know the story behind that place?
carrot top
Well, a little, I mean, yeah, kind of.
joe rogan
They're mostly well, they don't really know where they're getting the bodies, but they do know that a lot of them are political prisoners.
Yeah.
So it's basically like people that ran afoul of the Chinese government, so they whack them and turn them into statues.
carrot top
Wow.
That's creepy.
That's right outside my theater.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, a lot of them they call like unidentified bodies.
But the real problem is like to be an unidentified body, you have to be unidentified for 30 days.
But then in order to do the plastination process where they turn you into a statue, it has to take place within 48 hours of death.
unidentified
So someone's lying.
carrot top
Fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Someone's lying.
carrot top
That makes a lot more sense now.
joe rogan
A lot of them are bullet holes.
carrot top
What a great place to have a comedy club right next to like the Titanic Museum and dead fucking bodies, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
That didn't get you more in a mood for a show.
unidentified
I saw that too.
joe rogan
The Titanic Museum.
carrot top
Yeah, Titanic Museum.
unidentified
That's pretty dope.
joe rogan
They actually have a big chunk of the Titanic on display there.
carrot top
Yeah, I've been in there.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What a wild time where people would just get on a fucking boat and travel across the ocean with no YouTube, no GPS, hope they didn't hit an iceberg.
And that was like super fancy high-tech travel.
Imagine the people that traveled 30, 40 years before that.
Wooden boats.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
Not having any idea.
Just going on a promise that you had a job waiting on the other side of the fucking ocean.
carrot top
Right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's how my grandparents got here.
carrot top
There are probably comics on those cruise ships.
joe rogan
Probably terrible comics on those cruise ships.
That's the worst job in comedy.
carrot top
Oh, ever, right?
Ever.
I did one.
That's my only one.
joe rogan
It's one of those things where a guy, you know, there's some guys that like it.
Like, I know Alonzo Bowden does like jazz cruises.
Like Alonzo Bowden is a great comic, but he's also like a giant jazz fan.
He loves jazz music.
So he'll go on jazz cruises, and it's probably perfect for him because it's like if I went on an MMA cruise, you know, I could talk about you could talk about subjects that most people in a regular crowd be like, what the fuck is he talking about?
If you're talking about obscure jazz music, you know?
carrot top
Yeah, no, that would work.
I have a lot of friends who love cruise ships.
I just don't, yeah.
joe rogan
Have you heard what they're doing with AI music, speaking of general?
Yes.
They did 50.
I sent it to Jamie today.
They took 50 Cents many men and made it like a soulful song that seems like it's from the 50s or 60s.
Have you heard them?
carrot top
No, but I've heard a few other ones, not the 50 Cent one.
joe rogan
Dude, you want to listen to it?
Yeah.
It's so fucking good.
I sent it to Brian Simpson and he said, that is the best fucking thing you've ever sent me.
carrot top
So they just, they just, they just did that.
joe rogan
Yes, through AI.
It's not even a real human being's voice.
And it's fucking good, dude.
It's good where you're like, whoa.
Listen to this.
It seems weird hearing these lyrics with this kind of singing, you know, because it's like hardcore gangster rap music.
But with, listen to this, though.
It's kind of crazy that they're doing.
unidentified
many men wish death upon me I'm trying to be what I'm destined to be.
And niggas trying to take my life away.
carrot top
Isn't that great?
joe rogan
It gets better.
unidentified
I put a hole in a nigga for fucking with me.
My back on the wall.
Now you gon' see.
Better watch how you talk when you talk about me.
Cause I'll come and take your life away.
carrot top
Woo!
Great.
How incredible.
unidentified
Many man.
joe rogan
Nobody sings lyrics like that with those kind of lyrics.
It's gangster rap lyrics with an incredible voice.
AI is fucking scary, man.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's so good.
If that was a dude, if that was a dude who sang that, I was like, who's this guy?
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
You know, I'd be like, this guy is five years ago.
carrot top
That's the kind of stuff we're going to be.
Yeah.
I mean, the first time I heard about it was Randy Travis had a song out, and I love Randy Travis.
So I was like, he has a new album.
He's not doing well.
He can't, you know, he hasn't melted up.
joe rogan
That's right.
They used AI, but that was his decision, right?
carrot top
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think he wrote the music.
carrot top
Yeah, I think he did.
But it just blew me away.
We had a whole fight with my crew.
Like, it's AI.
It's not fucking AI.
It's AI.
And then they came back and they said it right.
joe rogan
But the difference is, like, this is not a real person's voice.
It's probably a conglomeration of multiple different singers' voices.
At least I'm guessing.
Is it actually a guy?
jamie vernon
I don't know where this started, but I'm looking at the one that I'm looking at.
They are trying to sell this.
They tried to make it seem like 50 Cent covered the song from some guy named Shifty Brent.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, but they do that stuff.
They did that with the Chris Rock thing when Chris Rock got slapped by Will Smith.
They tried to pretend that it was an old television show.
And they did an AI version of this old television show where a guy goes on stage and slaps the comedian.
It's really funny.
AI is so squirrely.
They're probably just trying to make money.
That's why they did it.
But God damn, it's good.
carrot top
But the Randy Travis one, your voice is his voice.
I don't think so.
joe rogan
No, no, it is.
So what they do is like, it's my voice too.
Like they use AI with my, there's a, there's a whole podcast with me and Steve Jobs.
I never met Steve Jobs.
carrot top
Oh, God.
joe rogan
There's a whole podcast that somebody made with AI.
AI, because you have Steve Jobs' voice and you have my voice, thousands and thousands of hours.
Every sound that I can make with my voice has already been made.
So all the computer has to do.
Weird noises.
Weird noises.
But all the computer has to do is just take a giant amount of your noises and then apply it and then apply it differently emotionally, slowly, somberly, angrily.
And you can just put it all together.
carrot top
They just had one with me something.
And it was like, what the?
And it was me doing something.
joe rogan
Do they do ransom phone calls where people will call people and they say, oh, I've been kids.
I need money.
carrot top
That's what it was.
It was not.
It was a hey, it's me.
It was character.
I'm listening.
If you could help me out, I need and it was like I was broken.
I was down and out.
I needed the money.
joe rogan
And they stopped sucking my dick.
carrot top
And we're in the desert.
joe rogan
Send money.
Yeah, there's, it's real weird because it's super good now.
In the beginning, when we first started hearing it, it was kind of obvious because the inflections were off.
Like the way you would say something.
Like the inflections in that song.
carrot top
Oh, that's amazing.
joe rogan
It was insane.
You know?
That I'll take your life.
Watch how you're talking about me.
Wow, take your life away.
carrot top
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Ooh, you hear it.
You're like, damn.
So that means that that we associate with a soulful, incredibly creative person with an amazing, God-given talent of a voice.
But it's not.
That's what's crazy.
Like, they nailed it.
Even though I know it's fake, I love it.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you love it too.
Like, we're listening to this.
carrot top
No, that was great.
That was beautiful.
joe rogan
But we know it's fake.
That's kind of crazy.
The Randy Travis thing is different because what they just did is he wrote it and then he can't sing anymore.
But they have thousands of hours of him singing.
They take that and then just turn it into him singing.
It is him singing.
It's actually his voice.
It's just not coming out of his mouth.
It's coming out of technology, but it is his voice.
carrot top
Crazy.
joe rogan
And it's his writing.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So it's like, it really is a Randy Travis album.
It's just Randy Travis.
Like, you can enjoy someone that can't do it anymore, but it's still alive.
carrot top
Right, sure.
joe rogan
You know, like that guy had so many great songs.
carrot top
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
That guy.
carrot top
That could go on forever and ever and ever and ever and ever and ever.
unidentified
Well, you have to have.
carrot top
No, he's got so many.
I love.
That's my first big country, says Kenny Rogers.
My dad would go to see Kenny Rogers every goddamn concert.
Every concert my dad went to was Kenny Rogers.
unidentified
Really?
carrot top
Literally.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
carrot top
And then he goes to the- Oh, we put the headshots on.
No, I told you.
unidentified
We forgot.
carrot top
We forgot.
I'm off because I feel more animated.
joe rogan
Yeah, there you go.
carrot top
This is weird.
So he goes to see Kenny Rogers, and I'm like 12 or something, 13.
He says, You want to go?
So my dad's, I said, I'll go to Kenny.
My first concert with Kenny Rogers.
It's like huge.
He was playing like arenas.
It was him and Tammy Wynette.
And then it was great.
joe rogan
You got an oh.
carrot top
Let me write all the hits.
unidentified
No.
carrot top
And we go.
Yeah, and then the second concert I go to was Kenny Rogers, right?
So I'm like, geez, I don't think there's anything else but Kenny Rogers, right?
Third time I go to this fucking thing.
I'm like, dad, can we go to like Alabama?
Can we go to another concert?
Because he loved Alabama.
He loved his no, Kenny Rogers.
So then I meet Kenny Rogers in an elevator in LA.
Like it's just the weirdest thing.
Bing, doors open.
And he gets standing.
He gets on.
I said, I said, oh, man, I don't bother you, legend.
He's like, thank you.
I said, you know, the first concert I ever went to?
He says, I'm going to say me.
I said, yep.
He says, that's awesome.
I said, you know, the second concert I went to?
He says, nope.
I said, you.
He says, wow, that's awesome.
I said, you want to know the third?
And he goes, all right, fuck off.
He goes, fuck off.
Where are we going with this?
I said, my dad took me to your concert three times in a row.
He goes, well, you have a great dad.
And then it was just kind of awkward.
He was just, we're just, I kind of ran out of time.
joe rogan
That's exactly what we were talking about.
You act weird celebrity.
carrot top
And I did right.
And we're just looking at the numbers and we're going up.
And finally, I said, oh, you know what?
You have great chicken.
And I'm like, what the fuck?
I didn't know what else to say.
But he really did have this great chicken robsters thing.
And that's what I said.
And he looked at me like, fuck off.
I said, no, and the sides are great too.
joe rogan
The chicken.
That song, The Gambler.
How many people did that turn into gambling junkies?
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
Romanticized gambling.
unidentified
You made it seem so you got a no when to hold them.
I do.
I know when.
carrot top
But you got to know when to fold.
joe rogan
I know when to run.
carrot top
I know what I'm doing.
I got to do it.
joe rogan
Didn't they make a TV movie about that?
Wasn't there?
carrot top
Yeah, called The Gambler.
Wasn't it called The Gambler?
joe rogan
I think there's a TV movie called The Gambler.
unidentified
Yeah.
carrot top
We'll find out in seconds.
joe rogan
Yep.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's something about music that was created before the internet.
carrot top
The gambler.
Here you go.
joe rogan
The gambler.
Look at him.
What year was this?
1980.
There's something about stuff that was created before the internet that's so fascinating.
carrot top
Oh, right.
joe rogan
It's like an archaeological dig, you know?
Like, this is.
unidentified
Look at that.
carrot top
That's just great.
Evan looks great, doesn't it?
It's like, you want to watch it.
joe rogan
Can I say, can I listen?
Because it's like an archaeological dig.
Like you're looking at the way people used to behave and talk before the internet.
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
You know, it's weird.
It's like oddly fake.
unidentified
You know, it's like oddly like interesting how you analyze that way.
carrot top
That's what now I want to see what you're talking about.
joe rogan
Yeah, like I'm being, I'm an amateur archaeologist here.
This is a different time.
Human beings from 1980 were like a different thing.
Everybody would just leave the house.
Everyone had a key.
Nobody knew where anybody was at any given time.
You left the house, you were gone.
We didn't even have answering machines yet.
carrot top
No, right.
joe rogan
People were basically wild animals who lived in houses.
carrot top
You're right.
joe rogan
And they only knew how to behave from movies and TV.
Give me some of this.
jamie vernon
It's just playing the music.
joe rogan
Oh, is it still playing the music?
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Is this the theme song?
jamie vernon
I mean, it's playing the song The Gambler.
joe rogan
I wanted, yeah.
carrot top
That's so funny.
unidentified
Look at it.
carrot top
Even in the way it looks.
joe rogan
The way it looks, it looks so cornball.
It's just kind of amazing.
You know, we just...
People just kind of accepted.
carrot top
I love the fact that how you put it, not even having self-recall.
joe rogan
Yeah, answer machines.
carrot top
Answer machines.
They were just gone.
We were wild animals.
joe rogan
People in 1980 were essentially wild animals.
They were wild animals who had children.
No one knew what was going on in the world.
Everybody was completely uninformed.
carrot top
Right.
Isn't that great?
joe rogan
It's crazy.
We were all worried that Russia was going to blow us up.
That was every day.
Everybody's worried about Russia blowing us up.
And no one knew what was going on.
And everybody lived in bliss.
And you only knew the people in your neighborhood.
Didn't know anybody else.
carrot top
No.
joe rogan
You didn't know.
True.
There wasn't even one 100th of the amount of famous people back then.
There was a tiny amount of famous people.
There was Elvis and a few other folks.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just a few rock stars.
A few comics.
There's like Richard Pryor.
carrot top
Right.
TV shows that you find with think, you know.
joe rogan
Dude, animals.
We were looking at Kenny Rogers.
These are wild animals that have just been introduced to technology and they're aping what it's like to be a grown-up.
Like they're just figuring it out.
And now here we are, we're like the teenagers.
We're the adolescents of civilization.
So we realize that's kind of silly.
But there's stuff from then that's better than stuff that's today for whatever weird reason.
There's some music back then that hits you because like you realize like how special this really like Prince, for instance.
Like I remember the first time I listened to Prince, I listened to, I was delivering newspapers at the time and I listened to I want to be your lover.
And I was like, who the fuck is this guy, man?
Like this guy was coming out of nowhere.
He was like completely androgynous.
Like beauty.
He was a beautiful man with this long flowing hair.
And the first album is him with his shirt off, just staring at you.
Like, what the fuck is going on?
And then I want to be your lover.
I heard that.
I was like, oh, my God, this guy's talented.
But he was like out of nowhere talented.
You know what I mean?
Like, who the fuck was like that guy before him?
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
He was completely different than anybody that came before him.
carrot top
The only one I think that would people compare with Michael Jackson because of the.
joe rogan
He was very different too.
unidentified
Right.
carrot top
But that hit because I remember when Prince came out, I'm like, oh, he's trying to be Michael Jackson.
Or no, yeah.
But he wasn't.
joe rogan
What year is this?
jamie vernon
This is his first performance.
joe rogan
Oh, let me see this.
Let me hear some of this.
unidentified
There you go.
carrot top
There's your song.
joe rogan
What a song.
Look at him.
carrot top
No, him.
Bro.
It's so funny.
This video, if you took the sound off this and you put in like Cinderella, it would probably match his Aerosmith.
But it looked how he's doing it, but he immediately walked through.
joe rogan
Right, right.
carrot top
He's got it.
joe rogan
It looks like he's compelling.
He was so compelling.
unidentified
All I ever wanted to do.
I want to be a lover.
joe rogan
I bet women were so confused why they wanted to fuck him.
Like, why don't I want to fuck that woman?
They wanted to fuck him.
Like, he cracked the code.
He figured something out.
carrot top
And they did.
joe rogan
And you're a five-foot-three dude with an insane amount of talent and you're wearing stiletto heels on stage and everybody wants to fuck you.
Because he was that fucking talented.
He was that talented.
And then it was also his music was so wild.
Like that song, Head.
I remember that song.
That was like, what year was Head?
Was that like 86 or something like that?
Like, what year was that?
carrot top
I know the thing.
joe rogan
80?
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
1980.
So this was then before I was in high school, son.
This is before I was in high school.
He had a song about blowjobs.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
Morning, noon, and night, I'll give you a head.
carrot top
Yep.
joe rogan
Till you burn it up, head.
Do you love his red head?
Love you to you're dead.
unidentified
Ow.
carrot top
You know, Prince people reached out to our people one night and asked if they could come to the show when he was at the Rio.
joe rogan
Whoa.
carrot top
And we said, well, fuck yeah, what do you mean?
Of course we would.
And they said there's only one caveat.
I said, was that you can't curse.
joe rogan
Prince hates cursing?
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
For real, for real.
carrot top
Well, yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe we just wanted to fuck with you.
How much power do I have?
carrot top
Yeah, do tell me.
unidentified
I don't think you want to hear swear sounds.
carrot top
I would tell my pee.
I said, I said, hold on a second.
He's talking, I can't curse.
They said, yeah, that's the only thing.
But he has a song called Cream, Get Off, Cream, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
And they're like, Yeah, I'm like, No, I'm not going to change my whole life.
joe rogan
Oh, he became a devoted Jehovah's Witness, and as a result, stopped using profanity.
Even implementing a cash swear jar at his Paisley Park studio to enforce his no-swearing policy.
Witnesses believe that using blasphemous or foul language is a sin, and Prince adhered to this tenet by removing swear words from his music and charging people for any foul language spoken at his compound.
carrot top
Well, I'm already down like 200, I'm already fined 200 bucks today, I think.
joe rogan
As much as I love that guy, I would not visit him.
I would be like, I can't do that.
carrot top
No, that's what I said.
joe rogan
I don't want to do that.
carrot top
Well, that's what I said.
Maybe I would.
joe rogan
Maybe I'd visit him once.
Maybe I'd talk to him once.
I would just like, like, if I'm going to go talk to a priest, I'm not going to go swear.
You know what I mean?
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
I'm going to try to be nice.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
But like at a certain point in time, like, I don't want to perpetuate this really stupid idea that different sounds that you make with your mouth are uniquely offensive.
It's what you're saying.
It's supposed to be a sound that I make so you know what I'm thinking.
And if you have words that you could substitute for these thoughts that are completely, if you have a thought that is only expressed through fuck you, like we know what fuck you means.
And everybody says fuck you.
For you to say that you can't say that anymore, you're manipulating language to make it have less nuance.
That's never good.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like it's already not nuanced enough.
Like it still doesn't quite grasp exactly what you're thinking or what you're saying.
And the worst case scenario of it is when someone writes down what you're saying instead of like hearing you say it in context with the conversation that you're having, right?
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
So it's like anybody who says don't use certain words like stop being a baby.
Stop being a baby.
These are just noises you make so that we can understand.
All that shit is nonsense.
It's stupid.
It's stupid.
And it was mostly created, I think, first of all, on television, right?
Television, you had advertising, and that was the only place where there was advertising.
And so that was the only place that had a proven audience.
But to keep that proven audience on NBC and CBS, you had to institute laws where you literally would get fined, like a serious amount of money if you swore on TV.
And then cable came along, and everybody, you know, Sam Kinnison was like HBO.
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
Like, and you're like, what?
This is way better.
Like, why can't we just talk?
But again, this is cave people.
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
Kinnison on HBO was 86.
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
No one knew what the fuck was going on, dude.
No one knew what the fuck was going on back then.
carrot top
Prior.
Yeah, it was just amazing.
joe rogan
When I was a kid, I was at my friend Jimmy Lawless's house, and we watched Eddie Murphy Delirious.
I think we were all like, what year was that?
unidentified
80.
joe rogan
I want to say I was 15, maybe.
carrot top
Delirious.
86.
joe rogan
I want to say I was like 15 or 16.
I couldn't believe how funny it was.
I was like, this is insane.
carrot top
Oh, no.
joe rogan
He's talking about the honeymooners fucking each other in the ass.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Jackie Gleason is fucking Ed Norton in the ass.
I've been looking at him.
Like, this is insane.
How is this on TV?
carrot top
86?
83.
83.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Wow.
carrot top
Unbelievable.
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
I think you're right.
joe rogan
That makes me like 15.
Fucking crazy.
It was so good, dude.
And it was new.
It was like all of a sudden, you're hearing someone just swearing on TV.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, this is crazy.
How am I even watching this?
carrot top
Right.
That's what was a big change in every cable.
joe rogan
Well, cable and then VHS tapes where you can go and like you could rent delirious and would rent it.
carrot top
Wasn't it too when we had to right?
joe rogan
Yeah, you go home and put it in.
You'd get popcorn out and go to watch the lyrics.
carrot top
We were bustering people.
Yeah, we were cave people.
joe rogan
We were cave people.
We were telling stories by the fire.
carrot top
Yeah, literally.
Right.
unidentified
Yeah, no.
carrot top
I don't bear coffee.
I'm starving.
joe rogan
Oh.
That was our form of entertainment.
carrot top
That's so weird.
Do you think back about that?
Because you keep bringing this up.
But isn't that weird?
Because I'm about your age and that we didn't have any of the, we didn't, like you said, we didn't have an answering machine.
joe rogan
Yeah, we had nothing.
carrot top
We had nothing.
joe rogan
We had nothing.
I think we are the perfect, we're the perfect people to like really understand the change that society has gone through and how spectacular that change is because we were there when there was none, where there was nothing, where walkie talkies were crazy.
carrot top
That was huge.
joe rogan
If somebody got a walkie-talkie, that was nuts.
carrot top
You could talk to your friend in your bedroom.
You had to cry.
joe rogan
Bro, what's going on over there?
Over.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, right.
He has to reasonably complicate.
carrot top
Mom just pulled in over.
It was the craziest thing in the world.
joe rogan
He would talk at a walkie-talkie.
Or I knew a dude who had a CB in his car.
He would just have random conversations with people.
carrot top
Bro, they would just start talking about stuff.
unidentified
Yeah, Breaker 19.
carrot top
What you up to?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they would just have conversations and people would meet people.
carrot top
Like you said, the smoking the band.
That was that was that.
But that is about the time you're talking about, too, where we had CBs, but they're also like the cavemen.
They were just.
Yeah.
joe rogan
But you were the cool guy if you had a CB in your truck.
If you had a CB in your truck, you were cool.
Didn't Burt Reynolds have a CB in his Trans Am?
carrot top
Yeah.
Of course he did.
unidentified
Did he?
Yeah, he had to.
Yeah, he had talked to Bert.
carrot top
Yeah, he did, hey, hey, big.
What's up?
We're going to pull over here and feed their dog.
10-4, good buddy.
joe rogan
That is the ultimate cool guy.
He's got a walkie-talkie in his Trans Am with a cowboy hat on.
carrot top
Fucking right.
That's my fuck.
By the way, it is one of my only movies that I own on my iPod.
joe rogan
Bro, it is another archaeological site.
It's a dig.
They've dug down to another time of human beings where this is the coolest guy in the world.
A guy runs from the cops in a Trans Am with a firebird on the fucking head.
And he's talking on a CB with a cowboy hat on.
I mean, this is the movie.
carrot top
This was the first movie.
unidentified
It's like Greek theater.
Yeah.
carrot top
First movie they broke the camera.
The third, what do you call that?
Were they looking?
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
carrot top
That was the first movie.
joe rogan
Fourth wall?
unidentified
Fourth wall?
joe rogan
Fourth wall.
carrot top
Fourth wall.
It's right when he's first being chased.
joe rogan
Yeah, thank God, Jimmy.
carrot top
He's going down the, he's going, he loses him in the alley in the very beginning chasing.
And he's going like, he's backing in like this.
And he looks at the camera.
He goes, it's like, that was fucking awesome.
Like, he just, he just gave that look.
joe rogan
Oh, Burt Reynolds had so much charisma.
unidentified
He was great.
joe rogan
He was so good.
carrot top
And the fucking sheriff, I mean, damn it, how great is that whole thing?
joe rogan
Bro, you know what?
He's really great.
carrot top
Give me a dabble sandwich and a Dr. Pepper made quick.
I'm in a goddamn hurry.
Where are you at?
Who's chasing you?
No one's chasing me.
I'm Sheriff Buper.
No one's chasing me.
You stay here and you think about it, but don't do it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
His kids on the car.
joe rogan
Dude, Jackie Gleason was amazing in that.
carrot top
That's an attention geta.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was so good at his keys.
carrot top
That's called an intention geta.
joe rogan
Do you remember Burt Reynolds in Deliverance?
carrot top
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
That was an insane role.
carrot top
Crazy, crazy.
joe rogan
That was an insane role.
That was when you get to see him as an actual actor.
You're like, oh, this guy was good.
He was a good actor.
You know what I mean?
Like, it wasn't just smoking the band.
carrot top
Right, sure, no.
joe rogan
The guy having a good time, super charming, great mustache.
carrot top
Who brown it?
joe rogan
He was fun, man.
Like, in Deliverance, look at that.
It was like right out of him right when he was done playing football.
carrot top
Yep.
unidentified
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
He kills a guy with a bow, doesn't he?
carrot top
Crazy movie.
unidentified
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
It was a good movie.
That was a good movie.
carrot top
I got to meet him.
He's cool as hell.
joe rogan
That's a very interesting thing.
carrot top
He's got a pie fight.
joe rogan
You had a pie fight with Bert Reynolds.
carrot top
No, I was on the tonight show.
Burt Reynolds.
This is crazy.
Burt Reynolds was the lead guest.
He came out and talked about being married like nine times.
Mark Summers, who hosted the game show, whatever it was, Mark Summers.
He came out and Bert moves down to the second chair.
And Mark's, here's Jay.
And he puts his back to Bert and he starts telling him, you know, something about being, you know, I've only been married once, and Bert's over there, you know, kind of getting a little.
First, he's got his back to him.
Then he takes the cup, the mug, and he says, he went to take it.
He says, is this mine?
He says, fuck, I don't give a shit.
And he says, well, you've been married five times.
I don't want to say, he was trying to be funny.
Like, I don't drink after you've been married five times because it kind of hurt.
They got, oh, here it is.
Now, here's the best part.
I'm.
Watch.
joe rogan
Whoa.
carrot top
Oh, no, this is real shit.
I'm a guest.
I'm going to.
joe rogan
He threw a drink on him.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So is this planned?
No.
And who's the other dude?
carrot top
Mark Summers.
joe rogan
And who's Mark Summers?
jamie vernon
He's the host of Double Dare.
carrot top
Double Dare.
unidentified
Thank you.
carrot top
Now, watch how angry Bert.
Watch it.
Watch him.
They didn't have this plan, by the way.
unidentified
Oh, but Bert hits him hard.
joe rogan
Yo.
That hurt.
Look at the torque he got in that right hand.
I want you to watch this again.
Bro, he got a hip into the ship.
carrot top
He got his right shoulder.
At the end, if you watch it, he'll go, well, hey, Keratov will be here tomorrow night.
joe rogan
At the end, look at this frame by frame.
carrot top
Well, he's a fucking football player, too.
Look at that.
joe rogan
Bro, bro, he clocked that dude.
Look at his face.
Look at that freeze frame.
Guy should be ashamed of that look for the rest of his life.
How dare you?
carrot top
How dare that face right there is scary?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
If I was friends with that dude, I'd be like, no, you're not going to do that.
He's going to kill you.
Bro, look at that torque he got in there.
carrot top
Oh, yeah, well, let's say he's a football player.
joe rogan
Bro, that was like.
carrot top
And I'm backstage going, am I going on?
They're like, no, we're going to be, we're going to cut you.
joe rogan
Actually, I just want to say, that guy's got a great chin.
unidentified
He had fun.
jamie vernon
He's smiling.
joe rogan
Yeah, he better smile.
He just got bitch slapped.
carrot top
Look at Jay.
joe rogan
He took a great shot.
I want to say that.
carrot top
He says, we'll be right back with no, tomorrow no, but Karen.
I mean, fucking shit.
jamie vernon
We'll be right back right after this message.
unidentified
We'll be right back with this.
joe rogan
That was Salt and Pepper Jay.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
Another guy took way too much shit.
They gave him so much of a hard time.
It's just like when Larry Holmes became the heavyweight champion of the world after Muhammad Ali, everybody hated Larry Holmes.
unidentified
When Jay Leno took over after John Carson, he got a lot of grief for no reason.
carrot top
For no reason.
Because they would put on great shows, too.
joe rogan
Super nice guy.
carrot top
The writing was great.
No.
joe rogan
I always had a good time talking to him.
He's always a nice guy.
He's a nice guy.
And what he should have been doing all along is really what he's doing now is his car shows.
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
Because that guy, if you talk to him about cars, he's so entertaining.
He loves cars.
He loves them.
I mean, he knows more about cars probably than anybody I've ever met in my life.
He's got an insane collection and he likes everything.
carrot top
He likes fucking dots.
He said anything.
He said a fire truck.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
He's just a genuine fan of automobiles.
And the way he talks about it is so entertaining.
carrot top
Yep.
No.
joe rogan
Because that's really what he wants to do.
carrot top
And he's also crazy, right?
Because he's unstoppable.
So he fell off that cliff or whatever the fuck it was, right?
You heard about this.
Yeah, what happened to him?
I just talked to him in Vegas.
He went and saw him.
And I said, how you doing?
He goes, you know, I said, you could still see like a, you know, a little bit of bruising because it was about two weeks after he'd had the fall.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
joe rogan
He was out and about two weeks later.
carrot top
What do you mean?
He did the show that night.
unidentified
What?
carrot top
Yes.
He fell.
joe rogan
Did he get a concussion?
carrot top
How he says, he says, he's a golden corral next to the, you know, La Quinta.
I said, first thing I said to him, I said, are you okay?
I said, my question, what the fuck are you staying at, La Quinta?
And he goes, you know, we all can't have saved the fourth E. I said, no, but really, what happened?
unidentified
He said, he just went out and spent any of this money.
carrot top
He walked out of the La Quinta and it was a little hill, like not even like a hill.
joe rogan
He went hiking.
carrot top
He went hiking.
joe rogan
With like slippery shoes on, probably.
carrot top
He said, the golden corral.
joe rogan
He's probably wearing dress shoes.
carrot top
He's going to go corral.
Right.
And his denim.
And so he went, he just, it looked, it was a little deeper than he thought.
And he slipped, fell, and hit his eye, you know, right in the thing where it's bad.
So he went into, got his golden corral.
You know, thinking a thing.
Went, got his food, went to the club, and went on stage bleeding.
That's so crazy.
And I said, what do you mean?
I said, what do you, what do you mean?
joe rogan
The show must go on.
carrot top
I just, I just held the mic with his hand.
I thought, how about Mary Guy?
I've had Mary Guy in the crowd.
And I'm like, it's just amazing to me.
He's going to chip my nail, I'd cancel.
joe rogan
He told this insane show, insane story, rather, of a show that he had to do with a priest and a mob guy where the mob guy was yelling at the priest and swearing and Jay's like yelling and swearing, like doing the same, like saying what the mob guy said.
I was like, seeing Jay Leno talk like that was like, what?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Why are you just talking like that?
carrot top
He came to see him say, dang, yeah, dang, you know, dang.
joe rogan
Hey, dang it.
What are you going to do?
carrot top
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
He was doing this like super hyper violent Italian mob guy like screaming obscenities at this priest and Jay Leno's yelling it out.
It's a fucking amazing story.
carrot top
And was it a show?
joe rogan
Yeah, it was a show that he was doing like, you know, before he made it.
It was like back in the day.
He did some sort of a show where, you know, I think it was like a benefit or something like that where there was a priest involved and then the mob guy got mad at the priest and was yelling at him.
It's a fucking hilarious story.
But that guy doesn't spend any of his tonight show money.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
He lives all entirely off of stand-up money.
Which is crazy.
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
So he's just stockpiling it all at the La Quinta Inn.
carrot top
La Quinta.
That's right.
unidentified
Jesus.
joe rogan
Someone needs to tell him.
Like, money's fun coupons.
You should be just scrolling.
carrot top
Have fun with them.
Have fun with them.
joe rogan
But people that started out poor, which is like basically most comics, once you start making money, it's hard to believe that you're ever going to keep making money.
You start panicking.
You know, they're going, oh my God, I got to save this.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
I got to save it.
carrot top
Yep.
joe rogan
And then if you carry that into your 70s and 80s, somebody should sit you down and have a talk with you.
Like, I'm your financial advisor, and now's the time to go crazy.
carrot top
Yeah, you're good.
unidentified
You should be looking into cocaine.
joe rogan
You should probably buy more cars.
Like, let's spend some time.
carrot top
As your final adventure, I think you should start spending shit.
joe rogan
As you're advancing.
carrot top
Let's find a drug habit.
Let's get you in a drug habit.
Let's get you in a nice car.
joe rogan
Let's do something.
You need to start buying stuff.
You should have way more cars.
carrot top
That's great.
You're right.
joe rogan
What are you saving up for, bro?
carrot top
This is the end times.
joe rogan
This is that.
carrot top
Yeah, because I don't, yeah.
I don't know.
Family, you know, that.
It's like, I know a lot of people that have a lot of kids and a lot of that you save up for them.
joe rogan
But you know them, like, giving kids a ton of money.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
Giving kids a ton of money is not necessarily good for them.
carrot top
No.
joe rogan
Like, if you look historically at people that got trust funds, it's a weird road to go down and not have any ambition or not have to have any ambition.
Maybe you do have it like inherently, but for a lot of them, it's like they don't have to make it.
They don't have.
And I think that's unfortunately in this society that we live in, that doesn't seem to work.
Like in this society, it's very difficult to not be self-sustainable, not be able to take care of yourself.
And if you can't take care of yourself, you got to kind of learn how to do it.
You can't just be constantly relying on other people because I think it hinders your growth as a person.
carrot top
Absolutely.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
I think it like fucks with you.
Like every guy that I've ever met that comes from a family that like gives them tons, not every guy, but a lot of guys that I've met that come.
I've met some cool ones.
They come from a family with a lot of money and they've never had to worry and they have trust funds and they never really have fat out job.
They're all weird.
carrot top
Yep.
joe rogan
They're all weird.
It's like cement that didn't get the amount of water that it needs when you're mixing it.
It's always like weird.
carrot top
Yeah.
It seems like weird I know too.
Every comic or artist, whatever, all their stories are the same, that they came from nothing.
If you think about it, almost every comic and artist I know, they didn't have money.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's not mutually exclusive.
carrot top
No, no, right.
joe rogan
Right.
It's not, there are people that have come from great families and great backgrounds that just have it on funny.
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
It's a weird thing, man.
Like, talent is an odd thing.
Really is.
A very weird thing.
Like, there's certain universal truths.
Like, you're going to find more talent probably in harder communities.
Like, you're going to have better rock and roll in like the dingy fucking outskirts of town.
Like, those guys are going to be Nirvana, right?
carrot top
But I love hearing like a Billy Joel story where you can relate to it.
Like, you know, I started cutting lawns at eight years old.
I'm like, I started cutting lawns at eight years old.
You know, literally.
And, you know, nowadays, no kids don't do anything.
And I'm like, yeah, I did that.
Billy Joel was like, I cleaned office buildings and I did everything.
Most of the time.
He was a boxer?
joe rogan
Yeah, Billy Joel was a boxer.
Yeah.
carrot top
I did not know that.
joe rogan
I don't know how many fights that he had.
I think he lost.
carrot top
Are you being funny?
Really?
Billy Joel was a boxer?
joe rogan
Billy Joel was a boxer.
carrot top
I did not know that.
joe rogan
I think he was good.
I think he was pretty good.
I mean, I think it was a good amateur level.
jamie vernon
22 and 2.
joe rogan
22 and 2.
carrot top
Really?
Gosh, how I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Was that professional?
unidentified
Golden gloves.
joe rogan
Golden Gloves.
So amateur level.
carrot top
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Legit boxer.
carrot top
I just know that he was that.
I did not know that.
joe rogan
He's a guy whose music changed radically.
Like, if you go back and listen to Captain Jack, from Captain Jack to Uptown Girls, like, oh.
You know, it's like it's great music.
It was a huge hit, but it's a different vibe.
It's like a guy who's in love now, and he's got a supermodel for a wife, and he's worth a billion dollars.
carrot top
Captain Jack was his gritty lover.
No, absolutely.
joe rogan
I was like, fuck, that's a good song.
carrot top
That's a great song.
But you're right.
You can see how their life changes and their music changes.
Like you said, now he's got an uptown girl.
Got money.
joe rogan
You ever heard the song Billy the Kid?
He's got some great fucking songs.
carrot top
Well, the one that did this special I just saw was it wasn't it Billy the Kid?
joe rogan
Is that the name of that song?
carrot top
It's a great thing that got me listening to the special was the entertainer.
I thought that was interesting because it was ripping on show business.
joe rogan
Yeah, the battle is that is a great fucking song.
My parents had that album on vinyl when I was a kid.
I listened to, what year was that?
unidentified
73?
joe rogan
73, son.
I listened to that and I was like, look, this is, again, this is an archaeological dig, you know?
You're like going to like the beginnings of certain genres of music and certain kinds of music.
And back then, that's how you got it.
You heard it on the radio and you went out and bought an album and you sent it.
carrot top
Yeah, and looked at it and looked at the deeds over the thing.
He read the paper.
Yeah, weird.
But the entertainment one was interesting because the record label had asked him to come up with a hit.
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Oh, that's why he wrote it that way?
carrot top
No, I don't know.
It was just on a, I just watched, I remember exactly how it went down, but he said, yeah, you know, they were saying they need to hit off this album and to make this big hit.
So he wrote that, and when they played it to them, they're like, fuck you.
We're getting rid of you.
So they got rid of him.
The label dropped him because it's all about that.
So they get the money, then they take all your money.
And they don't care about you.
And I'm like, that's ballsy, right?
They want to hit.
And you basically say how much, you know, like the Luxor says 20 years.
Could you do something special for me?
And I have this big roast and how horrible the Luxor is and how much they, you know, just shit.
They're like, what?
But it was a real album, like a real song.
And they were like, no, you're done.
joe rogan
They should have just took it on the chin.
Look, the guy became huge after that, too.
carrot top
Yeah, we'll see.
joe rogan
You fucking dumbasses.
carrot top
You got rid of him.
Now they say that.
joe rogan
You got rid of him.
He sold a billion albums.
carrot top
Now the damn.
joe rogan
He's got some great fucking.
Just the piano, man, the piano man.
carrot top
Alone.
That one song alone is right.
joe rogan
Oh, how about scenes from an Italian restaurant?
carrot top
All right.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
That is a fantastic song.
And it's another, it's a story.
It's a story of people's lives.
You know, and it's relatable.
It's like, it's real.
It's raw.
It's, you know, again, it's like a window into it.
carrot top
It's a bottle of red, right?
Bottle of red.
And I always used to make a joke about that in my show.
It was a bottle of red.
And it says bottles of white.
So apparently he didn't like red as much as whites.
He has plural in the.
He said, bottle of red.
Bottles of white.
unidentified
Does he say that?
carrot top
Yeah.
And I'm like, oh, he must have had, he liked more white wine than that's how I pick up shit.
joe rogan
Are you sure that's the lyrics or did you just say that?
carrot top
No, I think it says it says bottle of red.
Bottles of white.
Now you got to look it up.
joe rogan
I thought he said a bottle of white.
Whatever kind of mood you're into.
carrot top
Oh, fuck.
I don't know.
joe rogan
I can meet you anytime you want.
carrot top
Yeah, I knew that, but I restaurant.
Maybe I could be wrong.
joe rogan
No, that is a great fucking song.
That's a great song.
carrot top
Bottle of red.
joe rogan
It's just bottle of whites.
You're right.
A bottle of whites.
Interesting.
carrot top
See, I knew it was.
joe rogan
It's still a bottle.
carrot top
It's a bottles of white.
Right.
joe rogan
That's a weird way to write.
A bottle of whites.
jamie vernon
It could be wine, so it could be multiple kinds of white wine in one bottle.
joe rogan
Jamie get in text with a little bit of a little bit of a little bit of space.
carrot top
I mean, what I'm trying to say is that it's a little bit more like that.
joe rogan
So blend without a bottle of whites.
carrot top
So I was on to something there, right?
Because I used to sing it and go, why is he saying that?
joe rogan
Isn't that funny that some people don't like their grapes mixed?
Don't you dare serve me a blend.
Some people don't want a blend.
Is that a blend of a Cabernet and a Merlot?
You fucking I. That served me a goddamn blend.
carrot top
I don't want to say that.
joe rogan
Strange Chardonnay.
How weird are people?
carrot top
I'm going to give you a little bit of this bird and a little bit of that bird, okay?
Fuck off.
It's a blend.
joe rogan
People that like get super down with wine.
I got a buddy who's a wine, like a legit wine connoisseur.
carrot top
Oh, is it?
joe rogan
My buddy Matt.
So I could call him up out of nowhere.
Like I'd be at a restaurant and I'd send him a picture of the wine list.
Tell me what to get.
And he'd look at it for like three seconds.
He's like, this is great.
What are you guys eating?
Cake?
carrot top
Cake bread and this.
joe rogan
And he would tell you how to do it.
But he got scammed.
Well, he didn't get scammed, but there was a guy that he was friends with that was a gigantic scammer.
And I don't think this guy ever got him.
But what this guy was doing was they were all these wine connoisseurs and this guy was selling really rare wine that was counterfeit.
It was fake.
So he had infiltrated this thing, this like wine group, and he was a con man.
And what he was doing was taking a bunch of different wines and mixing them and then trying to sell it as this like 1970 impossible bottle from Bordeaux.
And so he would age the paper on the bottles and shit.
And they raided his house and they found empty bottles everywhere.
And he was taking labels off of things and copying them and printing them.
carrot top
I had that with Lube.
I do.
joe rogan
You got to get the real stuff.
It's hard.
carrot top
You got to get it from Portland.
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
But this document highlighted, in my eyes, at least for some of those people, that it's kind of bullshit.
You think you know the difference between really good old wine.
But this guy just tricked you.
And he tricked a lot of them.
A couple of guys he didn't trick.
There was one guy in particular.
This guy, the guy who's like, this is true.
I was just going to say, yeah, one guy was like, this is trash.
But the other guy was just raving about it.
And all of a sudden, his opinion, he questioned, like, what?
I just thought this was great.
I thought it was crazy.
Like, no, that's terrible.
unidentified
He's a scuffus.
joe rogan
Like, it was weird.
carrot top
That's crazy.
What was the wine movie that I that what was the wine?
joe rogan
Well, this was a wine documentary.
carrot top
No, no, I'm trying to think of the guy who said no more fucking Merlot.
joe rogan
Oh, yes, that one.
unidentified
What was that?
carrot top
Sideways.
joe rogan
That's right.
That's right.
carrot top
That guy came to my shoes.
joe rogan
I'm not drinking fucking Merlot.
carrot top
That guy came to my show.
He's a brilliantly nice, sweet guy.
joe rogan
Oh, that's awesome.
carrot top
He's a great guy.
Just like in the movie.
He's just so nice.
And he came with Kieran Culkin, McCullough Culkin's.
Oh, brother.
joe rogan
He's great and great.
carrot top
They were filming an Audi commercial or something.
joe rogan
What's that guy's name again?
jamie vernon
Giamatti?
carrot top
Yeah, Paul Giamatti.
unidentified
Paul Giant.
carrot top
He's so nice.
He came back.
joe rogan
He's amazing and everything.
carrot top
I said, could you?
No, they want to drink.
Anyone want to drink?
And they're like, yeah, I'll take whatever you got.
He said, we have a whole bar.
I said, I said, you want to go to Merlot?
I'm going to have a Merlot.
And just his face, he was so funny.
He's like, I just said it, but I didn't say it like I was trying to be funny.
I said, we have this, we have Merlot.
And he's like, I said, I'm just talking.
He said, no.
And then we did a video together.
I said, trying to think if I find somebody I could find a share of Merlot with.
It kept hands over to him.
He's like, not in fucking hell.
It was just, it was such a great, he's such a great guy.
joe rogan
They say he was great in that Howard Stern movie.
carrot top
He was, wasn't he?
Yeah, Private Parts.
I mean, NBC.
unidentified
Yeah.
carrot top
Yeah.
Yeah, he was really good in that.
I'm saying it, WNBC, no WNBC.
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
Yeah, he's a good, good guy on top of that.
Right guy.
Merlot.
joe rogan
Merlot got a bad name after that movie.
If I was in the Merlot business, I would have been furious.
carrot top
Yes, no doubt.
joe rogan
These motherfuckers, they're downplaying Merlot.
I always liked Merlot, and then all of a sudden I had a shady opinion of it.
carrot top
Well, they did that with me on South Park.
It said I was junk.
I'm like, fuck.
Did they say in a roundabout way, you know?
South Park.
Everyone's parodied me, and it's always been something stupid.
It's just amazing.
Indian casino, and it said, like, Carrot Scalp, you know, tonight playing at the show.
Who says that?
It was in like Simpsons or Family Guy.
Just for jokes.
Just for jokes.
joe rogan
South Park has been around longer than anything ever that's still good.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, how do they do it?
carrot top
I don't know.
It's brilliant.
joe rogan
It's just weird that they're still so on top of it.
They're so driven to still push the boundaries and make it really funny.
carrot top
And it's been going on since how many years?
joe rogan
Like the first video, I think, was 95 or 96 or something like that.
The one that they were passing around, the VHS one with Brian Boitano.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
What year was that?
I think it was 95 or 95 or 96.
Because I remember people on news radio were passing it around.
And we were like, what the fuck is this?
This is crazy.
jamie vernon
95.
carrot top
95.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Everybody was passing around.
We're like, this is insanity.
carrot top
This is so insane.
It's so good.
joe rogan
And I don't think it had a home yet.
I don't think it was on Comedy Central yet.
jamie vernon
The first one they made was a 92.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Which one was that?
jamie vernon
95.
joe rogan
Which one was that?
jamie vernon
Trying to see which it says.
joe rogan
Which is the Brian Boitano?
Which would Brian Boitano do?
That's what everybody would say.
We'd be walking around the news radio set going, what would Brian Boitano do?
And it's fucking Jesus is there.
And it's just, it's so ridiculous.
jamie vernon
That was actually in their first movie in 99.
Which that came quick.
joe rogan
The Brian Boitano thing?
jamie vernon
No, that was in the movie.
South Park Bigger, Longer, Uncut.
joe rogan
Really?
So what was the 95 one or the 94 one?
jamie vernon
So they made fun of Brian Boitano in The Spirit of Christmas.
joe rogan
So that came out in 99?
So I wasn't.
That was like the last year of News Radio.
I don't even know if I have a false memory now.
Huh.
jamie vernon
That was the one that was Jesus for Santa fighting.
joe rogan
That's the night.
That's the first one.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's no Brian Boitano in that one.
jamie vernon
He says, what would Brian Boitano do in that?
But that's not the song isn't until later.
joe rogan
Oh, right.
But that's when he says it, focused.
I thought it was going crazy.
carrot top
Hilarious still.
joe rogan
I thought I had a fake memory.
jamie vernon
It says, yeah, Stanmar says to Cartman, what would Brian Boitano do as Jesus battles Santa?
joe rogan
That's right.
Okay.
You had me thinking I was crazy.
jamie vernon
The song was way bigger than right.
joe rogan
But the show went where he says it.
It was on the show.
So that was the verse.
I was like, am I losing my fucking mind?
Like, no, I know it was on the first one.
But it was just so groundbreaking.
And the brilliance of it was that you don't have to have it look realistic.
So you can get away with so much more.
Like when he stuffs, what's her face up his ass?
Who did he?
When he had a slut off and stuffs Paris Hilton up his ass.
It's like, you can do that if it doesn't look real.
Like if it's like super realistic and 3D, you can't do that.
It has to look like South Park.
They can get away with so much.
They can kill kids.
They kill Kenny every week.
No one complains.
carrot top
Yep.
joe rogan
Poor fucker dies every week.
Imagine if this is like a graphic 3D video that looks hyper-realistic.
You can do it.
It has to look like complete nonsense and then we'll let you get away with almost anything.
carrot top
That's probably how they sold it that way.
joe rogan
Well, if you think about it.
carrot top
They bought it that way.
joe rogan
There's like levels of realism that will allow you to get away with more if it's like less realistic, right?
Like that's why we used to allow like Roadrunner.
Like and Wiley Coyote and Roadrunner would like drop dynamite on them.
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
Shit was always happening.
He was always getting fucked up.
That was okay because it was cartoons.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Right.
But you couldn't have blood, like blood all over the place.
But if you make them look so goofy that their head's just a big circle and they have like little stick on them, then you're going to have blood all over the place and nobody complains.
carrot top
Exactly.
joe rogan
Weird, right?
It's kind of weird.
It's like the less realistic, but we know what it is.
They killed a kid.
We're like, you kill Kenny, you bastards.
And no one has a problem with it.
Which is because it's unrealistic.
It's kind of weird, right?
carrot top
I think that's exactly how you put it.
It's kind of weird.
joe rogan
It's a perfect cheat code.
It makes everything more funny because you never feel guilty laughing.
No matter what.
When Cartman was in bed with Saddam Hussein, or when Satan was in bed, not Cartman.
There's just so many scenes where you're like, there's no way to do this unless you have cartoons.
It's brilliant.
Because you wouldn't never be able to get away with it.
carrot top
No.
joe rogan
Like the one when they skirted around drawing Muhammad.
They kind of skirted around.
never drew them.
They drew the...
There was this Lego.
There's a truck and he's inside the truck in a bear suit.
You can do things in cartoons that you just can't do in any other realm.
It's a perfect medium for comedy.
And you can keep the kids young forever.
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
You know, they're always going to be in high school.
Like, nobody questions the fact they've been in high school for 40 years.
unidentified
Right.
carrot top
No.
joe rogan
It's just, they're in high school.
That's how it goes.
carrot top
That's true.
joe rogan
They don't have to grow up.
Shut the fuck up.
carrot top
Why do they have to grow up?
Now, what if they did make a cartoon where they aged?
Aren't they funny?
They're like, God damn it.
No, but you want to see them.
They always look good.
joe rogan
It'll be sad.
Cartman would be a fucking loser at a trailer park.
It's fun when he's the way he is now and he's like a little kid.
carrot top
It's fun.
joe rogan
I like throwing hissy fits.
It's fun because he's still a little kid.
You know, you don't want to, there's certain people you don't want to see him when they get full grown or when they're over the other side of it.
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
When things, the wheels start falling off.
You know?
carrot top
That's what I mean, though, for their special, their end episode, they should do it.
joe rogan
Yes.
carrot top
When it's all done, this is the final.
They're all aged and they didn't have the voice quite still.
joe rogan
What they should do is do a 3D, like hyper-realistic version of the show.
Like just do it all through AI for the last episode and just have it the most violent, most ridiculous.
And see how people deal with it.
I'll be like, bro, this is exactly what we've been showing you for 40 years.
carrot top
That will be it.
joe rogan
They wouldn't be allowed to.
carrot top
Coffee?
joe rogan
Yeah, have some.
unidentified
Daddy.
carrot top
I like coffee.
Oh, thanks.
Thank you.
joe rogan
Cheers, sir.
carrot top
All right.
Cheers to you.
Bomb bomb.
Thank you for having me.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
I'm looking forward to seeing young Chill Tony, too.
That's going to be really fun.
carrot top
Yeah, that's fun.
You know, last time I had done it.
Last time I did it once.
joe rogan
Did you do it at the club or did you do it at a big place?
carrot top
At the club.
joe rogan
At the club?
Nice.
Yeah.
carrot top
It was fun and it was loud and intimate.
And it was just, you know, I told him before I did it, I said, I'm not into critiquing people because I've been shit on my whole career.
I don't want to tell these comments what they're doing right or wrong.
Coming from me, really.
He said, no, no, no, that's not how it works.
You just play, just be you, just be yourself.
And it was great because I could just, you know, if there was something specific that I thought was kind of wrong or off, I could say it in a very nice way.
But most of them were, they're good.
These guys come out and they got their minutes.
They pop them out.
Of course, you'd see a couple.
The first 10 seconds in, you're like, okay.
It's already not funny.
Or they're just so nervous.
You can see the mic shaking.
But some would have really quality written jokes.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
There's a lot of fun out there.
And there's also because of Kill Tony, people realize that if they can put together a minute, it can change their whole fucking life.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
Your whole fucking life.
Look at Cam Patterson just got on Saturday night live.
I mean, look at these guys.
They're killing it.
carrot top
Unbelievable.
joe rogan
William Montgomery's killing it.
carrot top
There was a couple there out that night that they were really good.
Yeah.
And I think Tony tapped me onto the chair at one point.
This next guy, you know, he came out and I was like, holy shit.
He was solid.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Ari Marshall.
carrot top
Are you kidding?
Are you popular?
joe rogan
There's a lot of these guys that do that show.
They do one minute and then they go, we'd love to have you back.
And then they come back, they do another minute, the crowd remembers them from the old show.
All of a sudden, they have like 25,000 Instagram followers, then it's 100, then it's 150.
Like things start rolling.
It's like, oh, you have a real pathway.
If you work hard, if you really fucking focus and really just really dial it in, really work on your material, really work.
Do as many sets around town as you can.
You might be able to do this for a living.
And if you can, it's the greatest fucking job in the world.
carrot top
So there's already a couple that I've been watching.
They are there.
joe rogan
There's more now than ever before.
It used to be, it was like there was a bunch of like bad people, and every now and then someone would come on with promise.
Now it seems to me to be more slanted towards people that are good.
It's like a high level or high percentage rather of people that are good.
carrot top
And I thought I was there.
They were really good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
A lot of them are really good.
And it's, again, there's a pathway.
carrot top
There was one that came out and I said, and it was kind of funny how he, the microphone was up high because the guy before him was like 6'5 or something.
This guy comes out.
He's like four feet.
So it's already funny because they bring him out and he goes to grab the mic and he just takes it and puts it behind him and takes the mic and goes into his bed.
And I'm like, so it got all done.
He said, I said, that was great.
I said, the only thing I would have done in the beginning, you already had a laugh.
The microphone was, you know, so reference it.
At least reference it.
You don't have to do a thing.
He said, he goes, yeah, well, that'd be a prop.
And I said, no, it's already a fucking prop.
It's not, you didn't bring it.
He didn't make it.
It's there.
It's a prop that's usable.
Every comic uses it for the, you know, everything from a guitar to change on the beach.
Every comic.
Everybody.
So I said, no, no, no.
You don't have to make a prop joke.
I said, just reference it.
You should at least referenced it like, like, this is already not going well.
Something.
And because the crowd was waiting for something and he didn't do it.
And then after the show, he said, I'm going to use that.
That's good.
I said, well, you have to follow a tall guy every time for it to work.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Don't set the microphone really high for my first show.
carrot top
That's what I said.
It only worked because it was impromptu.
It happened.
joe rogan
Right.
carrot top
And then he goes, and I told him that.
I said, you don't do it unless it happens.
You don't want to have it set that way.
Right.
And it's dumb.
joe rogan
Well, I think for some people, they don't know how to start, you know, and they're doing something like that.
carrot top
Well, the starting is hard for everybody.
joe rogan
It's not just that.
It's like this overwhelming anxiety.
You have one minute and you can't believe you're on a stage in front of this.
Like a lot of them, it's their first show.
Some of them first show Madison Square Garden.
carrot top
Oh, Jesus.
Yeah.
Imagine first time on stage.
No, no.
joe rogan
Madison Square Garden Garden.
And you're bombing.
carrot top
Oh, man.
I just know.
So they do that same thing with the Madison Square Garden.
joe rogan
And it's 100% random.
People have tried to get people on, and Tony won't do it.
He's like, no, no, no.
That's not how it works.
No.
What we do is everybody just signs up and I reach into that bucket and I pull out names.
And you can't rig it.
You can't rig it.
carrot top
Well, I knew that part of it, but I didn't know they did it in Madison Square Garden.
joe rogan
They do it that way everywhere.
Well, one thing they do in Madison Square Garden is they have like a legends bucket.
So they have a bunch of people backstage, like Jim Norton, Big Jay Okerson.
A lot of people did it when I was there.
David Tell.
And then they pull it out and then David Tell will come up and do a minute of stand-up and everybody goes crazy or do five minutes or whatever.
But he makes it so that even if someone is terrible for the first time, it's only a minute.
And then you have Shane Gillis and whoever else is next to him making fun of it for the next 15, 20 minutes.
It's going to be fucking hilarious.
And it's also, you get to see like, oh, this is a crazy thing to do.
Like this idea, you're just going to stand up in front of people and talk.
And hopefully it'll be entertaining.
carrot top
Yeah.
Right.
joe rogan
And sometimes it just goes horribly wrong.
And everybody's like, boo.
You're like, ah.
unidentified
Yeah.
carrot top
Oh, God.
Yeah.
The night I was there, everyone was pretty cordial, but I could see it going.
joe rogan
Bro, those New Yorkers don't fuck around, man.
If you start bombing a little bit, they smell blood.
carrot top
Yeah, no.
I did my very first time ever in New York City.
It was at Catcher Rising Star.
It was an old, old, old school club.
I go there and I had, it was like, it was pouring down rain or snowing, sleety snow rain.
I remember I took my trunk in a taxi and I've never been to New York City in a club.
And I go in, there's like eight people.
And oh, fuck.
And so the guy's like, you know, what do you bring me up?
I wheel my shit up.
I go.
It's not even bombing.
It's worse than bombing.
It's just like, never have nothing from a laugh.
Nothing.
joe rogan
Really?
carrot top
Yeah.
And I'm doing like my A shit, you know?
unidentified
Literally.
carrot top
I promise you to God.
I mean, I've got like, you know, the ice tray with a level.
So you don't put, you know, and it kills everywhere.
You know, nothing, fucking nothing.
And I just go, all right.
I think my opening line was I have more props than people, which I did.
So that got a little lap, but not even, right?
I was like, gee, I've got more props than fucking people here.
Nothing.
I get done.
I don't even know what to do.
I'm shaking so bad.
They said, just, there was no comic.
So I just went, all right, enjoy the next comic.
And I put the guy on my own mic on a thing because I had to.
Anyway, I'm like, just tearful walking.
I just didn't, I was going to leave this shit.
I'm going to get out of business, right?
Am I going to go into comedy?
This guy walks by.
He goes, he goes, no, leave your shit there.
It's good.
And he goes up and he, like you said, murders, you know, just absolutely murders.
Eight people.
It was like a stadium of people laughing.
And I'm like, watching this guy.
I'm like, holy fuck.
It was Dennis Leary.
And he, I mean, leveled eight people.
I couldn't believe it.
And I walked off and he walked off and he said, hey, man, I said, that was unbelievable.
He goes, no, that shit, fuck, your shit's fucking amazing.
But the thing with the, he was serious.
He said that whatever, the, you know, cowboy boot with the kickstand, fuck, that's great.
Whatever it was I was doing.
And I'm like, was he like fucking with me?
Because I ate shit and he was, no.
But I've never gotten to tell him that again.
If Dennis Leary watches this show, that was the most coolest thing a comic ever did to me.
Just gave me a big hug.
He said, you were fucking great.
That crowd sucked.
I said, the crowd didn't suck.
You just murdered them.
They didn't like me.
joe rogan
Well, it's a small thing.
carrot top
He said you were great.
joe rogan
Eight people.
You're bombing in front of eight people.
It's pretty easy to bomb in front of eight people.
carrot top
It was horrible.
joe rogan
It happens.
That was one of the great things about the store is that you would get those eight people crowds sometimes.
The early days of the store, you would go up, you know, if you got like an 11:30 spot on a Tuesday night, you might go up in front of eight people.
That can happen.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because you probably won't really get on at 11.30 because a bunch of people stop in and do sets.
So by the time you get up, it's probably like closer to one.
carrot top
I haven't been there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But those shows show you what's bullshit.
They show you there's something about a small crowd that shows you what you're saying is nonsense.
You know, like sometimes you have to like figure it out.
You have to, and the brutal thing about comedy is you kind of really have to figure it out in front of people with the openness of failing, right?
Like, here's the thing.
It's like one of the things about jujitsu, when you learn jiu-jitsu, it's really important to not be afraid to tap.
Because if you can just open your game up and not be afraid to tap and tap, you can learn more because you don't do it tense and you do it more playfully and it doesn't mean as much to you when you get tapped.
It sounds totally counterintuitive.
But if you can just relax and not use your ego, not try to win every session, just try to figure out why you're getting caught and figure out how to avoid it.
But don't be worried about tapping.
Just tap.
Tap whenever you get caught.
And then just let your ego deal with it and then learn and move on.
But you have to experience that.
You have to get tapped.
You have to get dominated.
Like you have to figure out what's good and what's bad.
And I think that's the same thing.
There's an element of that in comedy too.
You got to like possibly fail with this idea.
Like, I'm going to throw this out.
This is half cooked.
This is a weird idea that I have.
I'm like, am I crazy?
Like, do you think, is this where we're going as a society?
Is this where we're going as human beings?
And there's something there, and I'm trying to find it.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I got to risk not finding it.
That's the only way you find it.
Because there's writing on stage that you only get.
There's certain lines that only come to you when you're willing to step out on stage.
But you got to, you might fucking bomb.
You might eat shit.
You might have to transfer out of that.
Like, it's like you have to, it's a balancing act.
You might, this bit might not work at all.
And then you might have to immediately figure out how to segue into something guaranteed so you can get them back.
carrot top
Oh, yeah.
I do the same.
Absolutely.
But all my shit, I think, is full cooked.
I think I'm out there.
This is good.
This has been marinating for a while.
And then I'm going to eat shit.
You're like, fuck.
That was a good bet.
Damn it.
joe rogan
For me, it's.
carrot top
Or one night it works right and then the next night.
I just did a joke last night.
They killed the night before.
Nothing.
Crickets.
I'm like, what was the same?
joe rogan
Do you say it the same way?
Do you record yourself?
carrot top
Yeah, I never listened to it, though.
Yeah, but that's the thing.
I said it a little differently.
joe rogan
I've fucked up before what I didn't realize I fucked up and I said something wrong and I didn't realize I said it wrong until I listen to the recording.
I'm like, oh, I couldn't, because I'll fuck words up sometimes and just like I did, I talk too much.
You know, I really do.
I talk way, way too much.
So my brain is just like on autopilot talking sometimes.
carrot top
Well, I know it's different if I don't say it right.
I'm saying if I say it the same, one night it gets a great laugh, some next night doesn't.
I'm like, I didn't do anything differently.
joe rogan
Yeah, but I mean, what I'm saying is like, you got to listen to it.
You got to listen to it to really hear.
Because there's a lot of times where you'll say something just slightly different, and that slightly different makes all the fucking words.
carrot top
Well, but then I had one.
This is one last, it's a brand new joke.
There's a big billboard in Vegas, and it's for the Sahara pool.
And it's got this beautiful woman on it.
This big, beautiful hot chick, and it says, meet me at the pool.
So I put it up on the big screen.
I said, this is my favorite billboard.
Look at this.
Meet me at the pool.
It's hot girl.
And I said, then you get there, and it changes to a big gay pool party, but it's like 75,000 dudes.
It's a great picture.
So I did it last night.
Got a laugh, but not like, it should have gotten more because it's like, then you get there, and you're like, Ava?
Has anyone, Ava?
Have you seen, you know, she was here earlier.
She's probably buried under all that cock or something.
Last night, it just killed.
I mean, almost for a minute, they're still laughing and applauding.
I'm like, I didn't do anything different.
It was just the mood of that audience.
joe rogan
That does happen too.
Maybe it was like you were doing better before that, so you had more momentum.
unidentified
Maybe.
Sometimes it's that.
carrot top
I never, I'm just, I don't have any momentum.
unidentified
I just talk about it.
joe rogan
I've seen your show.
Your show in Luxor was really fun.
I saw it.
God, it's been a few years.
I got to check it out now.
But I've had a bunch of my friends come to Vegas and see your show.
unidentified
It's very fun.
carrot top
It's fun.
Thank you.
On Tuesdays, I do it in Spanish.
It's actually.
joe rogan
Oh, do you really?
Do you speak Spanish?
unidentified
How dare you sound a bitch?
carrot top
Tuesday night's a Spanish night.
I come like, hey, yo, esode.
joe rogan
Tom Seguro, who looks totally white, speaks fluent Spanish and does stand-up in Spanish.
carrot top
I'm going to see him for one.
I'm going to see him.
joe rogan
How many dates did he do where he did, you going to do your mom's house?
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do his podcast?
unidentified
Awesome.
joe rogan
Or Two Bears, One K. Which one are you doing?
carrot top
I'm doing with his wife.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, that's your mom's house.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're both real fun.
Bert's Bert's a great example.
Bert's a great example of what we were talking about.
One time we were at the improv, and Bert did this joke, this new joke.
The first set, it fucking killed.
And the second set, it didn't do nearly as well.
And he was confused.
And I had seen both sets.
And I said, oh, no, it's because in the first set, you said, like, he was at the, excuse me, he was at the supermarket.
But this is already on a special or something.
I wouldn't say it.
It was like, he was at the supermarket, and he was standing there talking to his wife.
He's like, God, it's so cold in here.
And she looks at him and she goes, you are so fat.
And he's like, what?
She goes, your dick is hanging out.
Like, he didn't realize that his fly was open.
He goes raw dog everywhere.
He goes raw, dog.
He's got no underwear on and his zipper's undone.
But the joke was the way it was, like, she had said it that way.
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
Like, you are so fat.
You can't see your dick.
So it's like the first show, he nailed it.
He nailed the cadence.
And the second show, like, something was off, and he forgot to say one part of it.
And I had remembered it from the first show.
It's weird.
You know, you got to listen.
You got to listen because it's painful.
You hate listening to your own voice.
It's gross.
You already know the jokes.
You're like, shut up.
carrot top
Shut the fuck up.
joe rogan
I'm so tired of listening to you talk.
But you have to listen to it because if you don't, you're not going to figure out how to do it the best way you can.
carrot top
Really?
joe rogan
I think.
carrot top
No, I think that's a great.
I just.
joe rogan
But there's a lot of people funnier than me that don't do it that way.
carrot top
I ever want to see myself again.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Everybody's got their own process.
carrot top
Now, you know, this whole thing.
joe rogan
I know some guys who are really funny that don't record any of their shows and they don't write at all.
They just go up a lot and they have ideas and they work them out on stage.
And they're really, really funny.
carrot top
Yeah.
I am kind of in that with more of my stand-up than the prop shit I build.
But the stand-up icon are just, I have like a little bullet point.
I don't write it out.
joe rogan
When you do prop stuff, how do you even come up with ideas?
Like, what do you, do you, do you, like, sit down with, like, a, a whiteboard and go, what can we do?
carrot top
No, I'd never written.
I've never sat down and said, I'm going to write today.
joe rogan
So how do the gags come together?
carrot top
They come just like a lot of, like, a lot of them happen by just in a conversation or a story or something.
Sometimes I'll see a prop and I'll, or a prop, meaning it's not a prop yet, it's just a thing.
Toilet seat.
Or I'll see a thing and I'll go, there's something funny about that.
You know.
And I think about it.
And then I go, uh-oh.
There was, I was at a Home Depot.
I mean, I made this like yesterday.
I haven't even done it yet.
I've never even tried this yet.
I'm going to do it on Tony tonight.
I've never done it ever, but I think it's funny.
Guys get drunk and they punch walls all the time, right?
Because I had a friend backstage.
I said, what happened to your hand?
He's like, oh, yeah, fuck.
I said, what'd you do?
He's like, I punched a wall.
I said, you punched a wall?
I'm like, and I just thought, I said, I thought this should be a stud finder.
So I said, this should be a beer with a stud finder so you can find out before you're drunk.
You fucking bitch.
Yeah.
So I made it.
So it looks incredible, but it's so silly, but it will be a crowd pleaser.
It goes beep, beep, beep.
You fucking bitch.
Wait, if you have a picture.
You have a hesitation.
joe rogan
You can fuck your hand up.
carrot top
But sometimes they're that way.
Sometimes I just, it'll come to me.
I don't know.
I was watching a cartoon, I think, years ago.
There was these paper cups and string telephone, and they were in a tree.
Hey, Susie.
And she's like, what's going on, Bobby?
And I'm watching it, and I'm like, this is an old version of the cups.
We need a new version, right?
Because that's just two cups.
So I said, we have to have another cup that comes out for call waiting.
And it was like, that was my free bird.
I mean, I did that.
I came up with, it was my closing bit.
You know, I'd hold someone in the front row.
What's your name?
And they go, hey.
And I said, you seem so close.
You know, the strings, and she's holding it.
And what's your name?
And she'd say your name.
And I say, hold on, I have another call.
Hello?
I got to call you back.
I'm talking to whoever she was, Tracy.
And it would just murder because no one would expect call waiting to come out.
But it was, you know, right when call waiting came out.
joe rogan
So you had a second cup.
carrot top
And then I had three cups for conference calling that came out of that.
So it was like, boom, boom, conference calling.
Then I'd throw it, I'd say call forwarding, and I'd throw it.
And then I had a clear cup that was for caller ID.
I said, I know you're there, pick up, I can see you.
So it was like, it was like a bam, bam, bam, bam, you know, a really good prop that turned into like a like a routine.
joe rogan
It would be funny if you tried to say those things today.
People would be like, what?
carrot top
No, no, no.
That's why I'm doing it.
No, that's a long one.
That's a carrot classic, I call them.
Once that are like, you know, I do a thing sometimes in the show where I do carrot classics.
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
I said, this is stuff for people that grew up with me in the 90s.
You'll remember some of these.
And I do like the ice tray that has a level, and it's great.
The biggest laugh comes when I go, half the crowd doesn't know what a fucking ice tray is.
That gets the biggest laugh because no one has an ice tray.
But the thing's still funny.
They're like, oh, I get this clever.
joe rogan
Don't people still have ice trays?
carrot top
Well, if you live in a, yeah, if you live in like a trailer.
joe rogan
No, regular house.
carrot top
Like ice trays.
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
Well, they might.
They may have new ones now with the big cube ones.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you don't want an ice machine in your refrigerator thing, you can just.
carrot top
So maybe that joke's still relevant.
joe rogan
I think it's normal.
I think it's, I have fucking ice trays.
carrot top
I have ice trays too.
joe rogan
I use them sometimes.
carrot top
But see, when you go and put it back in, you got to leave it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But there's certain things that people just like pagers make a pager joke today.
They're like, what?
carrot top
That's great.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, I remember when I technological jokes, like if you think about like jokes about technology, when you date them, it's so weird.
I used to have a joke about texting.
I'd be like, why are you making me read?
I'm like, call me.
You're on a phone.
It's the best way to communicate.
Call me.
Like, why are you making me fucking read?
This is so weird.
I'm like, it takes you four presses to get an S. Because that was back when they sent you a text message on a pile phone.
carrot top
Right.
Yeah.
joe rogan
On a flip phone, rather.
carrot top
Yeah, we had to make a seven upside down on a pager.
Hello?
joe rogan
It was the most annoying people that would want to.
carrot top
That's so great.
Why are we doing this?
joe rogan
This is so dumb.
And I would just call him back.
You couldn't text Joey Diaz.
He would yell at you.
It would fucking screw.
He'll text you now.
But, dude, for like seven, eight years, Joey would fucking yell at you.
Joey was the last one to get a cell phone.
He had a pager.
carrot top
I was the last one to get a phone, too.
I didn't get one.
joe rogan
Joey had a pager until like the year 2000.
carrot top
That's great.
I was a little more than that.
joe rogan
He fucking kept that pager forever, man.
And you would have to, you have to call his fucking pager.
carrot top
That's great.
joe rogan
He was a wild boy.
He was fun.
He was just such a fun dude.
But if you call, if you did not call him, he would get angry.
unidentified
He goes, I'm insecure.
joe rogan
I want to hear your fucking voice.
unidentified
Why are you fucking bleeding text messages?
joe rogan
Making me fucking text you like a little girl.
What are you doing?
Him and Red Band would get into it because Red Band loves texting.
So Red Band was like one of the first guys to text.
He'd text you back in the days.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, when you press it four times to get an S. It's crazy.
And then I remember people got those sidekicks.
You remember you're the coolest sidekick is in a keyboard.
Remember that?
And some of their sidekicks got hacked.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Didn't like Paris Hilton again, didn't some cooter pictures pop up because her sidekick got hacked?
Something along those lines?
carrot top
Something like that was something.
Yeah, like it was probably from that.
joe rogan
Or something happened where people like stole their sidekicks and got something happened.
Wasn't there something about that?
Some sort of a privacy concern with the sidekicks back in the day.
unidentified
I mean, I don't know about.
jamie vernon
There's a group that claimed they broke an air or sidekick.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
There's also, there was like strategic releases of stuff back then, like when they would accidentally have a photographer looking at their vagina as they got out of a car.
unidentified
You don't notice that photographer on his knees with a camera pointing.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
Nobody has a camera pointing.
carrot top
That's weird.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, come on.
That guy would go to jail.
That's probably illegal.
carrot top
Probably illegal.
joe rogan
And meanwhile, you don't have any underwear on.
That seems crazy.
Like, why do they have pictures of your pussy on the internet?
unidentified
On purpose.
joe rogan
Did you do that on purpose?
You did, but it's really, it's smart.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, if you want to market yourself and just get more popular so more people know your name, it works.
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
We're talking about them right now.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that was like a brief moment.
People don't remember Pussygate.
Because there was a time where these high-level celebrity type people were accidentally showing their pussy.
carrot top
Yep.
joe rogan
Whoopsies.
Here's my pussy.
unidentified
It's just out there in the breeze.
joe rogan
Just nothing but a curse.
carrot top
So weird.
joe rogan
Over raw pussy.
Out there in the wild.
At clubs, at fucking award shows.
carrot top
Wild pussy.
See, I never say that word on stage ever.
joe rogan
Pussy?
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because of Prince, out of respect.
carrot top
Out of respect for respect for Prince.
No, I just never have.
And I think it was last night.
No, no, last night.
Night for last.
I don't know what the crowd was just, I don't know, they were crazy.
And I don't know.
Someone yelled something out, and I said, Well, wait, I got, no, I said, I'm going to just do, I did a horrible pro.
It was a, it was a Bud Light bottle, you know, you know, like one of those metal ones.
And I had these, these legs put on it like that.
And it's hilarious looking.
I said, I made a Bud Light so guys will drink it again.
You know, I said, and the guys, the guy was like, someone yelled at, I don't get it.
I said, it's pussy.
Like, how do you not get the joke?
It's two legs spread.
The beer goes like this, and the legs go.
I said, see, you're eating pussy.
And it was just like, the crowd was like, a carrot top can't say pussy.
Like, what?
And he just didn't, I said, no, it's okay.
I said, but no, no, no.
joe rogan
Are there kids in the crowd?
carrot top
Don't say it again.
No, no.
No.
joe rogan
Don't say it again.
carrot top
No, they could.
I said, no, no, no, no.
They're thinking, don't say it again.
I said, no, but you can say it.
I said, now that I've said that, though, we've topped it.
I mean, right?
You can't top.
Once you say pussy, you can't top it.
So they're like, no, they laughed.
I'm like, you know, now fucks nothing.
I said pussy.
So we've reached the plateau of raunchy at the show, the Carrotop show.
Yeah, it's more silly.
I mean, there's an edge, but there's an edge to it.
joe rogan
But you swear whenever you feel like it.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
You just.
carrot top
Yeah, I don't need to.
But I do it for some parts of that.
I don't need to.
No, but I never say pussy.
joe rogan
Fun.
Swearing is fun.
People that don't want you to swear, that always makes me, that was like the Bill Cosby thing.
He was always angry at people swearing.
carrot top
I remember that, Richard Pan.
unidentified
Remember?
carrot top
Richard.
joe rogan
Eddie Murphy?
carrot top
Eddie Murphy.
That was funny.
That's one of the greatest bits.
He says, Do the people laugh?
unidentified
Do you get paid?
joe rogan
Tell Bill to have a coke and smile and shut the fuck up.
carrot top
That sounds great.
joe rogan
Because you can hear it in Pryor's voice.
carrot top
No, yeah.
Great.
Yeah.
He's brilliant, right?
Rick Pryor.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
carrot top
Just brilliant.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
My parents took me to see him live on the Sunset Strip when he was in the movie theater.
I was like 15, 16 years old.
carrot top
That's great.
joe rogan
It was incredible.
I couldn't believe how funny it was.
I will never forget this.
It was the first moment where I realized what stand-up can do because this guy was on stage and just talking.
It was the funniest thing I'd ever heard in my life.
Ever.
I thought about all the movies that I had seen that were really funny movies.
And I was like, there's nothing that's this funny.
And this guy's just talking.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was looking around the theater.
I'll never forget this, man.
And there was people just going like this.
Just throwing their body up and down while they're laughing, holding their body.
Like, oh my God.
Oh, my God.
Just dying laughing.
I was like, this is incredible.
He's just talking.
It's incredible how funny this is.
carrot top
Yeah, he was that's a groundbreaking special.
joe rogan
Yeah, when you're 15, you're like, no way.
carrot top
And you're right.
Yeah, and you're right.
And seeing people, like you said, physically laughing like that.
Falling down.
unidentified
Dying.
joe rogan
Like they couldn't handle it.
carrot top
I opened for Steve Harvey one time in Birmingham, Alabama.
And I get there.
I set up all my stuff.
And I'd never met him.
This is years and years ago.
I had like a trunk.
I had like 30 props, and a third of them were really good.
I kind of just opened.
I get there and I do the first thing.
Oh, and Steve says to me, you know, you ever worked a black crowd?
I was like, no, I mean, like all black crowd.
I said, no.
I was performing in front of black people.
He said, no, no, all black crowd.
I said, well, it'll be all black.
He said, oh, yeah, all black crowd.
I didn't know they would go one way or the other.
He just said, if they stand up and they start going, they're not leaving.
They're standing up when they laugh.
I was like, anyway, I go out there and I do okay for a bit.
And then I did one.
I don't know what it was, but they all got up and they were like, it looked like they were leaving, but they were, that's how they, they were, like you said, they were just rejoicing.
And they're like, ah.
And I just, I never, I couldn't believe it.
And I came off and he's like, nice, nice set.
And I'm like, that was so much fun.
They were so into the show.
And I said, I don't know how he's going to follow that because I did really go.
I did really good.
I really did, Greg.
I thought to myself, he's not going to, you know, that fucker, that guy, you know, well, Steve is.
unidentified
Sure.
carrot top
I know it was his crowd, but paint was peeling off the club.
It was so loud.
It was so piercing loud in there.
And that's another game.
I thought, I'm not in comedy.
Whatever I'm in, I'm not in that.
joe rogan
When he was Kings of Comedy with Bernie Mac, that was like Bernie Mac in his prime.
carrot top
Bernie Mac, brilliant.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
carrot top
Love Bernie Mac.
joe rogan
Bernie Mac was great.
He was so funny.
He was so powerful on stage.
It's like, sometimes you see someone performing.
carrot top
Yeah, everything.
His eyes alone just punchlines.
Charisma.
Just pop.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Yeah, pop.
He just was funny.
There's some dudes that just know how to just hit it just right.
carrot top
Yep.
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
Yeah, he was that way.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
He was so funny.
I mean, that whole era tour, it's kind of interesting that no one's done that since, right?
There's been like the Kings of Comedy and then there's Blue Collar.
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
There haven't been really a lot of those movie tours like that.
carrot top
There hasn't been.
joe rogan
Because they were tours and then they made films.
carrot top
Right, right.
joe rogan
Kings of Comedy.
How many films did they make?
They made at least one.
Right?
carrot top
Yeah.
How many Kings of Comedy?
joe rogan
How many specials did Kings of Comedy make?
jamie vernon
I think just the one or maybe two.
joe rogan
So then Blue Collar did a couple, right?
Two or how many did they do?
carrot top
They didn't mean actual specials yet, but they toured like crazy.
joe rogan
They toured like crazy.
But they did specials and they all went on to tour too.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
But there hasn't been like one.
carrot top
There hasn't been.
You're right.
joe rogan
No.
Interesting.
It's funny.
But it's also like everybody's already touring.
This is like there's more people doing arenas now than I think have ever, ever.
carrot top
I mean, not even.
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
It's weird.
carrot top
But it's what we're talking about.
Joe Coy came to my show about a month ago.
joe rogan
Joe Coy's killing it.
unidentified
He's always doing it.
carrot top
He just said to me, he was just backstage with his family.
And he said, just casually, he said, he said, what are you doing on February or something?
I said, probably working.
He goes, ah, have you come so-fi?
Because I'm like, oh, what's going on at SoFi?
He's like, me.
Fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
I said, you?
What are you going there for?
He's like, me, like to perform.
It just blew me away.
I'm like, you're playing SoFi?
unidentified
He's like, yeah, he's been doing a renovation.
carrot top
Yeah, yeah.
It's already sold out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
I'm like, and he's so casual.
Yeah, come to SoFi.
Like, he's going to go see the Stones.
He's like, no, I'm going to see me.
joe rogan
Nate Bargatzi is another one like that.
He's doing arenas everywhere.
He's just super normal, casual.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hang out with us.
jamie vernon
This is a stadium.
Football stadium.
joe rogan
Which one's doing the football stadium?
jamie vernon
Joe Coy and Gabriel.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, that's a great one-two combination.
jamie vernon
March 2026.
joe rogan
That's a great one, too.
Yeah, you can't go wrong.
Fluffy does LA by himself, right?
Doesn't he do the Dodger Stadium by himself?
Yeah, so insane.
Insane.
Yeah, Fluffy has a giant following.
I remember when we were at the Ice House, he had the record for the most amount of shows sold out in a row.
And they had a plaque on the wall.
Look at these guys.
Holy shit.
SoFi Stadium.
God damn.
carrot top
Jesus.
joe rogan
That's nuts.
Yeah, man.
They're killing it.
carrot top
I'll be playing your crackers on Shane.
joe rogan
Gillis is killing it like that.
Tony's killing it like that.
It's pretty.
jamie vernon
I was at the Notre Dame Stadium last night.
Shane did.
unidentified
Who did?
jamie vernon
Shane Ozma.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
jamie vernon
Brian at Notre Dame.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
That's incredible.
That's incredible.
Holy shit.
Woo.
It's a fun time.
Fun time for comedy.
Bert's doing giant places.
Sergura's doing giant places.
It's really wild.
It's wild to see.
carrot top
Yeah, I'm going to meet him on Monday.
joe rogan
Which one?
carrot top
Tuesday.
unidentified
Which one?
joe rogan
Tom.
Oh, you never met him?
carrot top
I don't think so.
Oh, I don't think so.
joe rogan
You'll love him.
carrot top
I don't know if I'd think I've met him or not.
I don't know.
joe rogan
He's like 187 pounds now.
carrot top
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Dude, he was at the club.
Did you see him?
jamie vernon
I can just tell from the photos.
He looks so skinny.
joe rogan
Dude, he looks great.
He looks great.
He was at the club the other night.
I'm like, dude, you look fucking great.
I go, what do you weigh?
He goes, 187.
He hasn't been 187 since he was like in high school.
carrot top
Oh, good for him.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he's like healthy.
He's not like Ozempic.
carrot top
That had a good joke.
Gaffigan.
He makes me laugh.
He said, I want my meet and greet.
And my fan said to me, Oh, you look, you look, are you okay?
And I get that.
I'm okay.
Yeah, you okay?
He says, yeah, I'm fine.
Why?
He says, you look sick.
He's like, no, no, I just lost weight.
And she goes, oh, Ozempic?
He goes, no, not Ozempic.
I'm on the other one.
But it's like, if you have muscles, you're on steroids.
If you're skinny, you're on Ozempic.
Can anyone be happy with anybody just looking good?
joe rogan
No one.
No one's happy with that.
unidentified
God, you look good.
carrot top
What are you on?
No, I'm not nothing.
joe rogan
The only time you're going to find people that are happy when you're doing good is if they're doing good.
So if they're doing good, then they get to say, hey, Carrotop, you're looking great.
You're looking great because they don't feel threatened.
carrot top
You look good.
joe rogan
So some people do.
They feel threatened by other people doing well.
So they don't.
unidentified
Ozempic?
Yeah.
carrot top
You're an Ozempic?
I mean, I would die if I took this.
There's no fucking way.
joe rogan
That guy has the willpower to lose that weight.
unidentified
Right.
Yeah.
carrot top
He's a pussy.
joe rogan
And then they feel better.
They feel better about themselves.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because their life sucks.
carrot top
Interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a lot of people.
That's a giant chunk of the population.
That's why I'm not sure.
carrot top
I just find that real.
That's always funny.
I hear my friends down.
I'm like, I look at her.
Yeah, she's got to be on.
I said, maybe she's just taking care of herself.
Maybe she's doing eating apples and doing yoga.
Fuck who knows.
joe rogan
Also, some people, it's really going to help them.
You know, if you're 600 pounds, it's probably a good idea.
And what my friend was telling me, my friend Brigham was telling me, who actually runs a pharmacy, he's like, the issue is the dosage, first of all, that people are getting these enormous doses and variable by body weight.
They should probably be getting a much lower dose.
And he's saying they're showing now that if you mix it with certain peptides, I think it was IGF-1.
Is that what he said?
I think he said IGF-1.
That if you mix it with certain peptides, it eliminates the muscle loss and the bone loss.
And so what you do is if you get on one of these things, if you're overweight and you're really struggling and you just need something to just get you back on track, the idea is that you could get on this and then use it as like a kickstart to a healthy lifestyle.
Okay, now you've dropped 30 pounds.
You feel much better, right?
Okay, you've been eating really good, right?
Now let's get off this fucking nonsense that you're on that's making you lose your appetite and let's now just maintain your body weight and just keep eating healthy and it'll go off.
Like if you just do it the right way, you'll continue to progress.
You know, you don't have to stay on that stuff.
No, it's long term is kind of sketchy.
Like, I don't know what are you, what are you doing?
It's like, what is the actual GLP-1 chemical?
Or whatever you want to call it, medication.
What does it actually do?
What does this peptide actually do that makes you lose your appetite?
Because that's essentially what it's doing.
carrot top
It's supposed to just curb your appetite, right?
joe rogan
Which is the last thing I ever want to hear about.
I fucking love appetite.
unidentified
I love you.
carrot top
Yeah, I love you.
joe rogan
I am appetite.
carrot top
We got from the airport here.
I thought people talked about my sister's hand.
Where's the best barbecue place?
joe rogan
Yeah, dude.
I don't know when they are.
carrot top
What are you thinking about?
joe rogan
I lose my appetite.
You can go fuck yourself.
I love appetite.
So it regulates appetite by acting on the brain's hypothalamus to promote feelings of fullness and satiety.
And by slowing down the rate of which food leaves the stomach, gastric emptying, it also influences the brain's reward system, reduces cravings for high calorie food, and dampening the motivation to eat.
These combined effects contribute to a reduced overall energy intake and a longer lasting feeling of fullness after meals.
I think it's like everything else, man.
Like you could probably use it responsibly and it can probably help you if you're really obese.
But I think there's way too many people that are hopping on it that just need a little discipline.
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
Just get a little discount.
But that doesn't mean that some people shouldn't use it, right?
And if they can figure out how to do it right with like peptides, then okay, maybe it's a healthy way for you to get into a good lifestyle.
But the real thing is get healthy.
That's the real thing.
carrot top
Right.
Healthy is predominantly made for people with diabetes, I think, but then they found out that it would help people that were obese.
jamie vernon
Exactly.
carrot top
Which, like you said, and it's a huge moneymaker.
Oh, it's creamy.
Making some money off of it.
I just eat and throw up.
That's what I do.
joe rogan
But see, that's that's one that I don't have a problem with people making money off of.
It's like, I don't have a problem with them making money off of any of them.
Let me be real clear.
But this one's like maybe like overall benefit if done correctly.
There's so many people out there that are fucked, man.
They're 500 fucking pounds and they don't know how to stop.
And they go to counseling.
carrot top
They see the shows.
They have to do that.
joe rogan
They think about getting their stomach stapled.
And it is an addiction, just like gambling, just like anything else.
You need some help sometimes.
And maybe that's what they need.
Just something.
Something to fucking get you out of this terrible state and move you into a place of healthy.
And then you'll feel better.
This is a problem with like you'll think better.
You'll be nicer.
You'll have a better life.
You'll have more energy to do the things you like to do.
There's no downsides to being healthy.
There's zero downsides.
carrot top
No.
joe rogan
You know, the only downside is it sucks.
It's a lot of hard work.
But once you get there, once you get there, the feeling of satisfaction of having accomplished something, like getting your body into a condition where it's like healthy and you can do stuff.
You can, you know, take a fucking yoga class.
You can do CrossFit.
You can do stuff.
It's physical.
It works well.
carrot top
Or just get implants like I did.
It's a lot.
joe rogan
There was this one guy who got like the most implants.
unidentified
Oh, I know.
joe rogan
You seen that guy?
unidentified
Yeah.
carrot top
No, that's really creepy, isn't it?
joe rogan
Someone needed to talk to him a long time ago.
Mike, whatever you're doing.
carrot top
Mike, slow down, Mike.
Mike, slow down.
joe rogan
You look crazy.
I don't know if you've got a mirror in your fucking house.
carrot top
Yeah, no.
God damn.
joe rogan
But that's the thing with people.
When they start doing that kind of stuff, they don't know when to stop.
carrot top
No.
joe rogan
And it becomes addictive, you know?
Just like eating becomes addictive or gambling.
You could get addicted to just fucking with your face.
That guy.
There he is.
Oh, he's got a back implant.
Tight.
jamie vernon
21 G's.
joe rogan
$21,000 to do a back implant.
It does look like he's got crazy lats.
I'd be like, that guy must be a rock climber.
Right?
If you saw that, I'd be like, that guy's jacked.
Look how jacked he is.
All the way down to his wrists.
And you're like, hey, why are those wrists on that body?
That's crazy.
Something's wrong.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
It's like, he looks great for whatever it is.
The boobs are odd.
But there's some part of your brain is like, what is going on?
Does he have fake abs too?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
Those are great fake abs.
If those are fake abs, let me see that again.
Well, there it looks real.
That looks normal.
But one of the ones that you just showed earlier, look like, okay, are those his real abs?
Because if you could get those abs, if those are real, you could have done the whole thing.
You could have done the whole thing, fella.
Like, somebody just get you lifted away.
jamie vernon
He didn't have to do that.
I'll see if he admits that.
joe rogan
Oh, no, he totally admits to it, right?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
carrot top
I think that's his whole thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's letting everybody know.
It's not like he's like, nope.
God just keeps blessing me.
jamie vernon
Under the knife more than 190 times.
joe rogan
Oh, that's normal.
jamie vernon
For over 340 procedures.
joe rogan
Well, that seems totally sane.
carrot top
Hey, man.
joe rogan
Just how many, what is it like?
What kind of damage are you doing to your body just going under 190 times?
unidentified
Jeez.
joe rogan
190 times you went under?
jamie vernon
Starting at age 18.
joe rogan
Whoa.
As soon as he got out of the house.
Fuck you, mom and dad.
carrot top
Yeah, I'm kind of, I'm got orange cones around his lats.
I'm getting lats.
joe rogan
Fucking lats.
carrot top
He doesn't, but he looks like he's a small frame guy.
He doesn't.
joe rogan
Exactly.
You get down to his wrists.
You're like, that guy's insurbrid.
This is insane.
carrot top
The wrist was weird.
jamie vernon
It's not admitting abs, saying it did everything else.
joe rogan
Oh.
jamie vernon
Let me see.
I'll just look.
joe rogan
Okay.
Well, if that's true, and it may be true, they might not be able to do abs back then.
jamie vernon
I don't know if somebody else.
carrot top
Oh, that's I know they do abs.
joe rogan
I know they do that sculpting thing where they sculpt the fat away and it makes fake abs look like they don't look like that guy's abs.
I have a guy, those look pretty good, but that the other guy's oh, that's that crazy guy.
That guy's had a lot of those things, too.
So, that's fake abs.
Yeah, those look real, a little more real.
But that, that, like I'm saying, like, if somebody just talked that dude into lifting weights, hooked on the look.
What is I think those are his real abs, which are pretty good.
Like, he could have got a tight swimmer's body instead of what he did.
Ooh, Jesus Christ.
They also do that sculpting thing, which it's not an implant, you know, but they like drag them out with yeah, they expose, they cut all the fat away so it exposes more of the abdominal area, abdominal sculpting keratin.
carrot top
I think I had that tomorrow before Segora.
joe rogan
You're gonna have to get drained, though.
You're gonna have these tubes on the tubes coming out of the side leaking pus because you just had a wound where they cut your fat away because you want to look better.
carrot top
I like, yeah, no.
joe rogan
All I have to do is just work out.
carrot top
Jesus Christ, people do a crunch.
joe rogan
Your body is who you are, right?
If you have like a little bit of a gut, it's because you've been fucking off.
That's just it.
carrot top
You live a good life.
Show into the world.
joe rogan
This is who you are.
Let it go.
carrot top
You're living good.
You got a little gut.
joe rogan
If you don't like it, lose weight.
Yeah.
I just don't know if you need Ozempic.
Maybe somebody does.
carrot top
Like you said, someone that's really obese probably would help them.
joe rogan
Dude, we're just about four or five years away from them being able to genetically engineer you anyway.
They're going to be able to eliminate all obesity.
Obesity is going to be out the window, probably.
At least with people who have the money for the procedure.
They'll probably just fucking lay paste around your body.
The fat will burn away and you'll fucking come out and look like Chris Evans.
unidentified
Probably.
joe rogan
Captain America.
That's going to happen, dude.
It's going to happen.
carrot top
Yeah, it will.
joe rogan
They're already doing weird stuff that's beneficial to people.
They're already figuring out how to splice genes and turn off gene expressions that cause certain diseases.
And they're getting involved in some really wild research when it comes to manipulating your genome.
And once it really gets good, once they really start curing certain diseases and figuring stuff out, and they ratchet up and they can start, they'll start going, who wants to be good looking?
Who wants a giant dick who wants the biggest ass?
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just going to 100% people are going to all look like cartoons.
We're all going to be cartoons.
carrot top
Yeah.
It will all look like that.
joe rogan
We're all going to look like Thor and the woman will look like Prime Jennifer Lopez.
carrot top
The whole world's hot.
I mean, fun times.
joe rogan
Fun times.
carrot top
Everybody gets to play.
Everybody's.
joe rogan
Yeah.
How much it must suck to just unfortunately be born really unattractive.
You know, like there's people that got a terrible roll of the dice in life.
You know, they got weird stuff.
carrot top
I'm right here for God's sake.
joe rogan
You're a normal looking guy, dude.
Your normal looking guy's done some stuff.
But there's normal looking people like you and I, like Elephant Titus, man.
That guy?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Remember that guy?
carrot top
Of course.
joe rogan
Imagine something like that where you could just completely change it and all of a sudden he looks like Ken.
Why wouldn't you do that?
carrot top
No.
joe rogan
Why wouldn't everybody get a chance to be hot?
What's it going to be like if everybody's hot?
carrot top
Fun.
joe rogan
It's going to be fucking fun, dude.
It's going to be awesome.
carrot top
Everybody gets to play.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's going to be fun.
Everybody's hot.
It's going to be great.
And what if they figured out what's wrong with people's brains?
Like, oh, we thought that you just had to let people experience life and figure out their issues and make mistakes and maybe go to jail and then get out.
No, no, no, no, no.
We can just rewire brains.
Rewire everybody's brain so everybody's like really calm and peaceful and kind and compassionate.
And you have to sign up for it.
It's the compassionate program and everybody has to get the updated software.
carrot top
That's great.
joe rogan
They'll all be super sweet to each other.
We're going to have to do it.
carrot top
You're going to software.
Yeah.
I have a software update tonight.
Everyone's going to be hurt.
joe rogan
And everyone's going to be nice.
It's going to be a human horse.
carrot top
They're all your hair.
They're going to have muscles.
joe rogan
And then all inventions will cease instantaneously.
We will never invent a single thing after that.
There will be no more music.
Everyone's going to be hot.
There'll be no motivation whatsoever for you to ever be Prince.
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
You know?
Like, Prince became Prince because he was 5'3, and that was the way to get women to love him, to be so fucking talented, like, that people just are blown away.
And you're acting like a woman.
They don't even understand him.
They're so hot for you.
Like, he hacked the system.
You're not going to get that.
carrot top
I met Prince a couple times.
One time I met him, he was still cursing because I was on the tonight show, and I was back in that little hallway getting my makeup done, whatever.
But I already came in makeup, so I don't know why, you know, I was always ready.
So I just walk out of the makeup thing, and Prince was on the show.
His door is right there, and mine is down here.
So I walked over to Jay and I said, he walked in.
I said, could you introduce me to Prince?
He said, well, you're in the phone.
It's going to knock on the door.
I said, well, no, I'm a protocol.
I'd rather you walk me in.
It's Prince and just say, hey.
He said, I haven't even said hi to him yet either.
So come with me.
So he said, well, go after this.
He goes to get his makeup.
I'm just standing there.
Prince comes out of his dressing room.
He says, where's my fucking tea?
And I'm like, what's that?
He's my fucking tea.
And I was like, oh, I'll go get it.
And he closed the door and Jay was right there in the thing.
I said, where's Prince's fucking tea?
And she's like, what?
I said, he just yelled at me to get his fucking tea.
He's like, does he know you're in the?
No, he doesn't know my show.
He probably doesn't know you're on the show.
So I went and got tea, and I walked and knocked on the door, and he opened it, and his assistant opened the door.
I said, this is Prince's tea.
He says, he doesn't drink tea.
I was like, okay, no?
And Prince is looking, he's like, close the door to the thing.
What the fuck was that about?
Where's my fucking tea?
I go get tea.
joe rogan
Listen, that seems insane.
carrot top
It's insane.
But it was just awkward.
I didn't know what I was supposed to do.
So the next time I'm in Vegas, I'm going to my own room.
joe rogan
You didn't talk to him at all after that?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
You were on the show together?
carrot top
No.
He did his thing.
Jay brings us all on at the end.
This is, thanks, Prince, and Keratop.
And Prince declined to go out for the closing, but you can see it.
He's like, we had Prince, Karen.
joe rogan
Do you think he was embarrassed that he told you to get his tea?
carrot top
No, I think he was out of his mind.
No, maybe.
Maybe he thought, oh, shit, no.
But he would have said thank you for my tea.
The girl's like, he doesn't want tea.
I'm like, he just asked me for fucking tea.
All right.
joe rogan
That follows along with my theory about that kind of talent.
I always think you have to be at least somewhat insane or have a relationship.
You have to have a relationship with insanity, which is probably why I joined Jehovah's Witness.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
And decided to stop swearing.
It's like he wanted some structure, right?
He's probably out of relationship with insanity.
carrot top
Probably.
I mean, he wasn't.
He definitely had a, I mean, he had a trouble, you know, we all know that.
He was a rough patch there for him.
But the best one was I was going to my room at the MGM Grand at the top suites, whatever the hell they're called.
It's after the show, and they have the little girls at the end of the, you know, the check you in at the top.
Oh, morning, Mr. Thompson.
How was your show?
Awful.
And I start walking down the hall, and there's this big, big, I mean, big black guy just standing right in the center of the hallway.
So I'm walking towards him, and I'm like, you know, I'm getting closer to him.
So I said, hey, how's it going?
And I saw him go like, you know, I can't go by him.
unidentified
So I said, oh, oh, I'm sorry.
carrot top
I need to go to my, he's, you can't go to, you can't go past here.
I said, oh, no, I have to go to my room.
He says, you're not going by, you're not going by me.
It wasn't mean about it, but he says, you're not, you're not going to go by me.
And I made a joke like, so I can, I can probably get by you.
You're being funny.
I said, I said, I can, I could probably get by you pretty quick.
Didn't laugh.
So I said, all right.
I went back to the girl at the front.
I said, is that guy work here?
She's like, who?
I said, the guy in the hallway.
No, what?
What guy?
I said, that guy.
No.
I said, well, then you won't let me go buy him.
She's like, I'll go with you.
So she walks with me.
I said, I brought back up.
I get this little old lady.
unidentified
Right.
carrot top
I brought back up.
We're getting through you.
And he's like, sir, he needs to go to his room.
He's like, I'm sorry, he can't come by me.
And I just kind of, I figured there's got to be something behind him.
And I kind of just do one of these like, well, I just got to get.
And it's Prince, and he's standing.
He's only, you know, this guy's three times his size.
And Prince is standing behind him.
So I just, I say, Prince, and he goes, hey, I said, can I go to my room?
unidentified
He goes, yeah.
carrot top
I said, can you tell him?
And he goes, to who?
I said, the guy.
Like, he's not with him.
He says, he says, yeah, let Carrotop go to his room.
And he goes, he goes one of these, and I walk by him, and he's just, Prince is just standing behind this guy in the hallway.
I don't know what he was doing even.
He was just standing there.
He just standing.
joe rogan
Probably writing a new song in his head.
carrot top
Maybe he was writing.
I don't know, but it was just weirdest.
And he just said, hey, and I said, thanks, Prince.
He said, no problem.
joe rogan
Bro, he's a weird guy.
That's why he's so good.
carrot top
Yeah.
I just never forget that.
joe rogan
I was like, I don't think anybody gets that good without being really out of their mind.
carrot top
You know?
joe rogan
You got to be out there, man.
carrot top
He is standing there behind this guy.
joe rogan
That's funny.
carrot top
It wasn't like.
It wasn't.
For those phones, he wasn't like.
joe rogan
That's a funny thing to do.
carrot top
Playing.
joe rogan
Stand out there with a giant dude in front of him.
carrot top
He was just standing there behind him.
Maybe he was waiting on a girl to come out of the room.
That's all I could think of.
Maybe he just felt like he would just stand there.
And I look back and thanks, Prince.
He said, no problem, Carrot John.
joe rogan
Remember when he had to use a symbol?
Because he didn't have the rights to use it.
carrot top
That's right, the record label.
That's so insane.
joe rogan
You go back to Billy Joel's song, I Am the Entertainer.
Like, this is that too.
It's the same thing.
carrot top
Exactly.
joe rogan
Music business, fucking with one of the all-time greats.
jamie vernon
I was just reading about Billy Joel.
His first record deal, he almost fucked everything up.
He signed everything away for 15 years.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
1973.
unidentified
Some guy saw him perform that song you're talking about, and he's like, we got to figure this out.
carrot top
Wow.
joe rogan
Captain Jack?
unidentified
Yeah.
carrot top
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Captain Jack is a great fucking song.
Have you ever seen him do it live?
carrot top
No.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
God damn.
See if you can find an old version.
Can we play it and like cut it out?
jamie vernon
I mean, we can.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's play it and cut it out.
Find an old version of him doing it live from the 1970s, if you can, if it's possible.
carrot top
Yeah, there's a whole thing in the documentary right now about Billy Joel.
joe rogan
Look at this.
How quick is this?
1976, Captain Jack from Connecticut, live 1976.
We'll come back, ladies and gentlemen.
carrot top
Now we're back.
Going back to, we were talking about music earlier.
joe rogan
How good was that song?
carrot top
That's what I'm saying, though.
People, we have this.
You, I'm sure, everyone has the same discussion about music.
You know, these songs, everything from that era, 60s, 70s, 80s, is still relevant and amazing.
But it's hard to find.
I don't know if they just don't play it, too.
joe rogan
It's you got to find artists, man.
You got to find the artists.
carrot top
Go back and I, you know, who do you?
joe rogan
There's a lot of artists.
carrot top
I still listen to, you know.
joe rogan
Yeah, but there's great guys right now, man.
You know, there's Jelly Roll right now.
carrot top
No, he's amazing.
joe rogan
Oliver Anthony.
He's amazing.
Teddy Swims.
That dude.
Do you know who that guy is?
Oh, my God.
Play the Door by Teddy Swims.
What's that?
jamie vernon
We can't play music anymore.
joe rogan
Just like, we'll cut it out.
jamie vernon
We'll cut it out.
joe rogan
We'll cut it out.
Sorry.
But I just want you to listen.
carrot top
Here's a you fuck with your crowd.
You say, okay, now here, this is one of the best songs I've ever heard.
Check this out.
unidentified
Yeah, but when you come back in, no, you come back and you go, right?
carrot top
Let's fucking listen to this song.
Great.
That's great.
unidentified
Yeah.
carrot top
Beautiful.
joe rogan
Yeah.
See, they're out there, man.
carrot top
Yeah, I know.
unidentified
I know.
carrot top
You just got to find them.
I guess when I'm old like me, I just get stubborn.
I go, oh, what did he listen to?
I'm like, oh, Elton John.
Billy Joel.
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
I'll give you some shit to listen to.
There's some great shit out there.
carrot top
I try to.
I just get so.
I'm old.
joe rogan
You listen to Zach Brown.
carrot top
I love Zach Brown.
Yeah, I love Zach Brown.
joe rogan
Zach Bryant.
I love Zach Brown, too, but Zach Bryan.
carrot top
Oh, Zach Bryan.
joe rogan
He's the guy that was at the arena with Shane Gillis.
You don't know him?
carrot top
No, I don't know.
Wait, wait, do I not know him?
joe rogan
He's phenomenal.
He's phenomenal.
Phenomenal.
And another one of those guys is just like super, super talented, an incredible voice.
He was in the military, man.
He was making songs on TikTok in the military or one of those things, like Vine or something like that.
And that's how he popped.
Just like right out of nowhere.
carrot top
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Let him out of the army.
Like, you're going to be a fucking star, kid.
carrot top
Superstar.
joe rogan
He was in the Navy.
What arena were they at?
carrot top
Notre Dame.
joe rogan
How many people is in that?
jamie vernon
I'll show you there, man.
It's 100%.
joe rogan
Is there a picture of them on stage?
carrot top
A lot, yeah.
unidentified
I want to see a picture of him on stage.
joe rogan
That's so surreal.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those numbers are so surreal.
Like, look at the size of that.
That's so crazy.
carrot top
It's like the Luxembourg.
There's nothing different.
joe rogan
Basically the same.
carrot top
It's the same.
joe rogan
What's the biggest show you've ever done?
carrot top
Stadium in Florida.
joe rogan
What is that?
carrot top
But that was for their homecoming.
It wasn't a Carrotop show.
I was the headliner, but it was a look at that.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie vernon
He was so nervous about doing it, too.
joe rogan
I can't wait to see.
carrot top
Oh, I imagine.
joe rogan
Well, how could you not be?
carrot top
Well, my thing with the stadium, because they do a soundtrack there, but the stadium's empty.
And it was, you know, 100,000 people.
This side was going to be the alumni.
This side was the kids, you know, all ages.
They had a rules.
You couldn't say, you couldn't curse.
You couldn't definitely, anything sexual.
So thank God I brought all this stupid shit.
It was just, you know, meant for Kyle is a bong with, you know.
joe rogan
Right.
carrot top
The open guy goes out.
His first joke is like, yeah, I'm eating this chick out, right?
My guy comes running in like, dude, my boy, he's like, his opening line was, I'm meeting this girl.
And I said, no, he goes, yeah.
I'm like, well, the second guy goes out.
Same thing.
He's just, they're beyond rotten, gross, dirty, right?
And I'm getting ready to go up and I'm like, well, I'm going to eat shit now because they went here.
But the crowd wanted goofy.
They had heard all this.
It was actually working in my advantage.
They did all this horrible, dirty stuff that the crowd was kind of like, let's get Keratop.
And I came up and I was like, you know, I did my exact thing I was supposed to do.
It was silly, goofy, you know, for both sides.
They loved it.
But the weirdest thing, I'd love to ask him that.
He never played a stadium, is you say, you know, A, and it goes, hey, hey, hey, hey, four times, a backslap, whatever they call that.
joe rogan
Oh, echo?
carrot top
Yeah.
So I didn't, in Soundcheck, it wasn't doing that.
So I went out and I said, I said something like, you know, Florida.
I'm from Florida.
So I was like, oh, Florida, my hometown.
I said, Florida, my hometown, Florida, my hometown.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
carrot top
And I went, oh, shit.
Like, in my head, I didn't know what I was going to do in that split second.
And I said, I said, wow, wow, wow.
One thing cool about playing in the stadium, stadium, stadium, every joke, bomb is going to bomb four times, four times, four times.
And the crowd went like crazy.
And I said, no, seriously, that hit, hey, shit.
And it just worked off that echo.
It was great.
joe rogan
Well, you figured out how to work with it.
carrot top
Right, right, right.
In a split second.
I'm like, yeah.
joe rogan
That's the way that you're doing it.
carrot top
That joke sucks.
That sucks.
Suck.
joe rogan
God, imagine not just ignoring the fact that you hear yourself four times.
carrot top
No, I know.
And you have to time out your right.
It was the weirdest thing ever.
You're holding up a thing and you're like, it's a thing with the thing.
And you have to hold it longer till they see it to put it down.
It's weird.
joe rogan
I remember when I used to work at Great Woods Center for the Performing Arts.
It was like a concert venue.
And I was there when Bill Cosby was there.
And the problem with comedy in that place is that it was outdoors.
So the inside of it was all covered.
Like there was like an inside space.
It was open air.
There was a roof over it and it was all covered.
And then there was a lawn area.
carrot top
Yeah, the Meadowbrook kind of thing.
joe rogan
And they sold tickets for the lawn, but you could only hear the show inside the roofed area.
Because once it got out, all the echo fucked it up so bad when it made it out into the lawn.
You couldn't understand what the fuck anybody said.
You had to be in there where the speakers were.
And so everybody was furious.
They were all complaining.
I'm like, oh, they never checked.
Like, no one checked to see if you could hear someone talk out there.
carrot top
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Crazy.
carrot top
These kids today.
joe rogan
No one knows what they're saying.
carrot top
Dennis, come in there.
joe rogan
I saw Dangerfield there.
He was backstage.
So backstage when Dangerfield would do shows, he would get high as fuck.
He would take off all of his clothes and he would put a robe on.
That's what he'd go on stage with a bathrobe on, just raw dick and a bathrobe and with slippers on.
And dude, he fucking murdered.
I was, I guess I was like 19 years old when I was working there.
And he went up there and I was not even thinking about doing stand-up comedy yet.
So I was just loving it just as a pure fan.
I was like, I can't believe Rodney Dangerfield just hanging out with a bathroom.
That's true.
carrot top
Because that's what he was known for.
Even in Vegas, he'd go around the casino and robe and saw it.
joe rogan
I didn't see his dick, but I saw him in a bathrobe, and I saw him go on stage in a bathrobe.
And that was his move.
carrot top
No, no, I saw it.
He walked up in his dressroom on purpose with it undone.
I swear to God.
I said, hey, I said, Rodney, he's like, yeah, it's my mom.
He goes, hey, mom.
And you just stand there.
Yeah.
My mom's like, crazy, right?
And he meant to.
He meant to, he was like, he looked at me like, how's mom doing?
I'm like, great.
And she's like, your thing is hanging.
joe rogan
In our dressing room at the club, his wife donated his notes from an appearance on the night show.
So it's his handwritten notes, and they're all framed with a photo of it.
carrot top
How great is that?
unidentified
Rodney.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's pretty cool.
One of the things I loved about him, man, is that he introduced the world to a lot of other great comics.
He introduced the world to Kinnison, Hicks, Robert Schimmel, Don Myrera, Jerry Seinfeld, like a lot of comics did.
A lot of comics did those HBO young comedian specials.
carrot top
Well, that's what you're doing as well.
And Tony is doing that because you give all the comics time on your show, which most shows don't have that anymore, right?
unidentified
The late shows don't.
carrot top
A lot of shows don't.
joe rogan
But comics that have podcasts all do this.
carrot top
But you made a lot of people have podcasts now.
You're a powerful person beyond that.
joe rogan
Give me people who are going to have podcasts where they're out of the way.
carrot top
I'm giving people the platform.
Like, fucking, I'm on.
Oh, you got me on here.
You know, other shows, like the late night shows, don't have comics anymore.
unidentified
They don't.
joe rogan
Well, that's so silly.
But also, they're just hampered anyway.
carrot top
They have a book to promote.
joe rogan
Because it's all...
The whole show was...
Not to knock late-night shows, because some of them are fun to watch, but it's basically...
It's publicity for a bunch of stuff, right?
It's like someone's coming on to promote an album.
Someone's coming on to promote a movie.
Nothing wrong with that, right?
But the problem is it's not what the host is interested in, right?
And I think the way that those shows are, you're handicapped in a way.
Well, you have to get on the famous people.
You have to get on the rock star.
You can't just have weird people come on.
You can't have some guy who work for the CIA come on.
carrot top
Right.
joe rogan
Tell you about aliens.
This is what I know so far.
carrot top
But that would be the whatever guest, like the third middle guest.
joe rogan
You can do that, though.
You can't do it.
First of all, you only have 10 minutes.
Each guest is like in and out real quick.
You have barely enough time to scratch a surface of like one or two stories.
You don't get it.
You don't get it.
carrot top
Well, I guess I guess what I used to do it, I do it.
I did it.
I don't know how many times I did the tonight show, but I never was promoting anything.
In fact, the only time I had something to actually promote, they didn't want to put me on.
I said, I'm trying to promote chairman of the board, this movie.
unidentified
And they're like, nah, but the one time you wanted it.
carrot top
I really did.
No, I did.
I have this movie coming out.
unidentified
Yeah, I remember that movie.
carrot top
Yeah.
They're like, nah.
I'm like, I got a movie, Jay.
I'm in a movie.
Now, the weirdest one, I'm going to ask you, I was going to reverse this to you.
Who's the strangest, you said strange guest, made me think of this, that you've had to do in front of, I'll tell you mine real quick.
So I was on the tonight show and Dick Cheney was on.
unidentified
Oh.
carrot top
And I mean, I'm nothing against.
I mean, it's just, it's a king.
You're like sulfur?
Well, I had five, maybe six props, Dick Cheney props, on purpose, right?
joe rogan
Because Dick Cheney was there.
carrot top
No, I had like three just because I'm topical all the time in the show.
unidentified
So I have them.
carrot top
I already have them in my show.
But then when they said, Dick, you're going to be on with Dick Cheney.
I said, oh, shit.
Can I do it?
And so I started writing more.
So I had like six, and I opened with them, right?
So, but the weird part was I get there and we're rehearsing at a Secret Service.
Everybody's there.
I can't get to my own room.
Prince's guys that you can't go by again.
So I finally rehearsed it.
And they're like, the people are like, you know, he's going to be a guest.
I said, well, no, it's just why I'm doing it, right?
And they're like, Jay's like, you know, I don't know.
I said, well, you know, it's very topical.
And I think it's funny that he's there, right?
So Jay, this is right for the show.
He said, is he going to stay or is he going to leave?
Because Secret Service is surrounding me, like going to go grab him and go.
And Jay's like, well, I don't know.
I mean, I can ask him.
And I'm thinking, well, just between you and me, I mean, this is like behind the curtain.
Right.
What do you think?
Is it better if he's there and I do it and they keep cutting over to him?
Or if he's gone and I do it and I keep looking like, thank God he's gone.
What's funnier?
And he's like, I don't know.
I mean, if you're fine.
I said, I think if he could stay, it would be better.
Because it's really funny.
I'm doing it right in front of the fucking guy.
So they said, okay.
So they go back.
He talks.
He goes back.
He says, okay, he's the thing.
So he goes back to the desk and they're laying, please welcome me in a phone and they feel like I can't remember.
And he came out.
Great impression.
Yeah.
Good friend of the though.
Wacky guy from Vanguard.
And so I walk out and I go right off.
I look over.
I said, hey, I said, funny that you're here.
And I pull out, you probably can find this.
We pull it out and I have a Dick Cheney gun and it's a rifle with the thing goes this way because he shot the guy in the head.
And I mean, it's already like, holy fuck, right?
And they're like, I found your gun.
Oh, sorry, Bill.
And it's like, the crowd didn't know at first because they're all looking at him.
They're looking at him.
Yeah.
And you got that, you know, just pissed, right?
So I go, right, and I do another one.
I had an operation game, you know, the operation.
It had his face on it because he's always getting operation.
I had a book where the thing, it was just like five or six Dick Cheney jokes.
Finally, I keep looking over and I'm like, you know, we're good.
You're not going to have me, you're not going to have me audited or I'm going to be killed here.
And now the crowd's really getting.
And now the Cheneys look at me like, how many more fucking, he even says, how many more do we?
I said, I got one more and then we'll move on.
So I do one more Cheney joke.
Now he's kind of, he's kind of laughing, but still kind of like, this is aggravating.
Then I go and I do a piggy bank for gay guys.
And it's a piggy bank where the slot is in the asshole instead of the top of the thing, right?
It's a great prop.
Hey, it's a piggy bank for gay guys.
Murders.
I mean, I did a great, great set.
I get done.
I walk over, I sit down, and there's something going on.
Like there's a ruckus.
There's like Secret Service, something going, the writers, the producers.
And Jay gets up and he, and I'm just sitting with Dick Cheney.
And the lady comes over and she goes, oh my God, that was the best set you've ever done.
I said, thank you, Tracy.
And she said, I look over and said, thank you for being good sport.
Yeah, where do you find all this stuff?
I said, no, I make it.
He thought I'd found it all.
No, I make, where do you find all this stuff?
I said, I made it.
You made that.
It's pretty clever.
His daughter is there.
And apparently, all those Dick Cheney jokes were fine.
But when I did the gay piggy bank, she lost her mind.
Like.
joe rogan
You can't do that?
carrot top
No, I don't know.
Lost her mind really mad that I did a gay piggy bank joke on the show.
Forget, I just did five jokes about her father.
So everyone was taking her out of the studio.
She was losing her, she was screaming.
So they took her out of the studio.
joe rogan
Is this the gay piggy bank?
That's it?
carrot top
Yeah.
It was like, I can't believe that you in front of my father.
And I thought you were making fun of me because I'm doing a dick chene.
I shot your dad joke.
joe rogan
The gay piggy bank is what set up.
carrot top
It was the gay piggy bank.
joe rogan
Is this Liz Cheney?
carrot top
I think.
I don't think she was one of the daughters.
I don't know.
joe rogan
How many daughters do you have?
carrot top
I don't know.
That's why I think it might have been.
How many?
Just two.
joe rogan
One of the daughters.
Let's just say one of them.
carrot top
One of the daughters.
I don't think it was an imposter.
joe rogan
Could have been an imposter.
Crazy person pretend to be one of the daughters.
Dick Cheney's daughter Liz are both staunchly against Donald Trump despite being Republicans.
But why are Liz and Mary once feuding over same-sex marriage?
How are they feuding over that?
Let's find out.
What's that?
jamie vernon
I just was trying to add.
joe rogan
When was this?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
I know you're trying to add, but now I'm curious.
jamie vernon
This article is from a year ago.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
A year ago, someone's upset about same-sex marriage?
What are they saying?
jamie vernon
Well, the election.
carrot top
I had another prop that I thought.
joe rogan
Hold on.
jamie vernon
The election was a year ago, so it had to do with that.
That's why they mentioned Donald Trump in that.
joe rogan
Right, well, what is the same-sex marriage dispute between...
Because I need to know.
Some people are still arguing about that in 2020.
Okay, and they believe in same-sex marriage.
The other one doesn't?
It'd be funny if it was the other way around.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Gay was like, I want to do it.
jamie vernon
I don't know which one.
We don't know.
I don't know which daughter was.
carrot top
I don't either.
I'm assuming it was probably the one that was gay maybe then.
joe rogan
Maybe it's like two daughters just hating on each other.
Well, I don't think you should get married.
carrot top
I had another one that was kind of strange because it was a dumb joke.
Maybe you think of you said same-sex marriage.
So right when gay marriage became legal in certain states, it was like four states.
I had a big map, a big map that I would hold up.
And I'd say, hey, gay marriage is now legal.
And this is a map to show people.
And it would have these right where the states were, there were these little penises on springs, whatever.
And it was just dumb, right?
So I rehearse it, and the crew is fucking going crazy.
They're like, ah, this guy, fucking dildos.
And, you know, you can't do a dildos on NBC.
And so this lady comes over and she goes, you can't.
I said, I know.
I mean, I think it's silly enough.
You know, they're just on springs.
And I would always fight with her.
She said, no, I said, all right, if I come up with a different idea without dicks on it, can I do it?
She's like, yeah.
So I thought, I don't know what I'll do.
I took the springs off and I had the guys back there at the Tonight Show print out Ryan Seacrest faces, you know, like four of them.
unidentified
Right.
carrot top
And I put them where the gay marriages.
Now, Ryan Seacrest is a good friend of mine, and everyone was making fun of him, right?
Back then, oh, he's gay, and it freaks not clearly, but the joke would be, and it killed.
unidentified
It's funny.
carrot top
So I come back and I go, How about this?
And she's like, Oh, my God.
That's I said, I know him.
He's not going to, he'll probably text me and say, Why would you do that?
Jay comes over and goes, Oh, you know, he's really a good friend of mine.
I said, No, Jay, I said, He's a friend of mine, too.
It's funny.
It's not, it's not anything.
He's like, Yeah, if you, if you, if you, if you really, if you couldn't just do that, super sensitive, is he?
No, no, but Jay was very protective of it.
I said, No, it's no, you know, he's the NBC, my friend.
I don't think it's nothing.
I said, Well, yeah, I can put like, you want me to put like, like I said, like, you know, Richard Nixon dicks or something?
He's like, No, just get rid of it.
Just get rid of the joke.
I said, It's funny.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
Or fighting over Ryan Crease at his face.
joe rogan
That's the problem with, you know, having editorial access to someone's act when they're doing a tonight show set.
It should be like, no.
It should be like, look, if you want fucking the black crows to play, they sing their song.
You know what the song is.
You know what the lyrics are.
That's fine.
But with a comic, you can't tell them they can't do something.
carrot top
Well, they ask nicely.
And of course, I had 40 other props I didn't need to do.
joe rogan
You're even swearing.
Like, what are you doing?
You're being silly.
It's silly.
Like, come on.
carrot top
I did break the law with them once.
joe rogan
What'd you do?
carrot top
I was doing a podium for Bill Clinton.
It was the closing bit.
And I would do the stupid voice to you.
Like, I did not.
And there was this presidential seal on this podium.
And it had a true, false buzzer button.
It would go bing, and it would be, it was just so stupid.
You know, like, I did not have, and you hit the button, I did not have.
I will not raise to e.
And then, you know, I fucked her ding, ding, ding, something.
I forget the joke now, but the closing punch of the whole thing was right after I'm doing the podium.
That would kill.
I could just stop on that.
I had a foot pedal where Monet Gwinski's head would come up on a beret.
Literally, this is great.
It took a hard, took engineering to do this.
And so I'd go, I did not.
And then I hit the foot pedal and the woman, the beret would come up, and I'd go, not now.
That's all.
It's just not now.
In the rehearsal, it was just, it was the, they were like, that's the best thing you've ever brought here.
You're my God.
And I said, yeah, great.
Here comes my lady with her new pad.
And I said, oh, fuck.
She goes, everything is good.
Standards in practice.
I said, I said, oh, and I give her a hug.
I said, this is the first time I've come and everything got approved.
And she says, yeah.
I went back to my dressing room.
I'm like, I can't believe I get to do that.
That's my closing bit.
Right before, I'm talking a minute before I come in.
She walks in.
She's like, okay, you can do the podium, but you can't put her head down.
And I said, you can't use your hand to force her head down.
That's just, they can't, it can come up.
You just can't force it down.
I run to the prop department.
I said, is there a way you can, because I had made it.
They don't know my, they're looking at it like, I don't know.
I made it.
Is there a way it can release and go down without me touching it?
And they're like, I don't know.
They looked at it and I'm on in five minutes.
I said, fuck it.
So I do the whole thing.
I said, I did not.
And the head comes up and I said, not now.
And I use my elbow to put it down.
And of course, the crowd, it killed.
And it would have better if I did this, but I said, not now.
I get done.
I come over and I can see her fucking fuming.
She comes running over me because they always come and say, what a great set.
Oh, you did so good.
Tracy Fist did.
She said, that was phenomenal.
I said, I said, Jay's like, I'm doing good thing.
And I said, the stands are practice lady coming over.
Ah, fuck.
And I said, am I in trouble?
She's like, I said, I didn't do that.
I did this.
Shows over.
Thank you tomorrow night.
And then she comes over.
Okay.
If I get fired over this, I said, you're not going to get fired over this.
Oh, no.
They've already bleeped it out on the West Coast, East Coast.
It went live.
I said, bleep out what?
You can't force her head.
I said, I didn't force it.
I didn't use my hand.
I used my elbow.
She just looked at me like, you fucking, like, so clever.
I said, well, you said don't use my hand.
So everything was fine after that.
But it did get bleeped out.
And it just, it went, you know, fucked the joke up because they went, I did not.
And then, you know, the West Coast.
They edited it right to just good night.
Like, there wasn't a punchline.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Well.
carrot top
You ever get in trouble for something?
like that no well that this is when i got in trouble i got banned from fox uh i think for life uh for this and this is for something else this is really weird yeah i was in the country no billboard music awards and they asked me to do a little bit with chris rock it's chris rock and me and he you know it's it was such great together because he's like you know top you know and then i'm out there stupid and but chris rock is you know So he and I go out,
we do our rehearsal, and I had like four props or something.
And the guy came over like in a panic, right, middle of the show.
It's already happened.
Our bit's coming up in about 40 minutes.
He says, I need you guys to go longer.
And Chris Rock's like, what do you want?
He said, just come up with something.
And I said, well, I can go, I can have my guy go back to the MGM and grab a few more props.
He said, that'd be awesome.
Chris was like, yeah, perfect.
You know, we'll kill the time without having to change too much.
And I can just pull out more shit.
I go and I tell my guy, go TV clean, get like this, get the thing, the towel with the misspelled thing.
And then one of the toilet seats.
So I added, and it was a great joke.
It was a toilet seat with a seatbelt.
So when you need a Taco Bell, right?
You sit on it and I put it on.
And the sound effect in the show would say, Houston, we have a problem.
And it's a great, stupid little bit.
But there's about 20 toilet seats leading up to that one.
I was like, I'm not kidding.
30 toilet seats.
I had one that hold women's hair when they throw up.
I had one that lights up.
I had one with spikes on it.
It was so many.
So the last one was the seatbelt, right?
So it's very clean, right?
It does great.
We walk back, and I'm thinking they're going to come high-five me because we just saved the show.
We added, you know, we added time they needed.
The guy's like, they banned me because I said Taco Bell because it was sponsored by Taco Bell.
How the fuck am I supposed to know it's sponsored by Taco Bell?
That's real shit.
Yeah.
unidentified
Dude, that's it.
carrot top
I'm like, I didn't say fuck.
They said, no, you said Taco Bell.
joe rogan
I'm like, oh, my God.
carrot top
How do I get fined for that?
They thought you're banned for life.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
carrot top
Because I said Taco Bell.
I didn't know.
I mean, I'm not the guy.
They should have come to me and said, don't do anything with Taco Bell in this.
joe rogan
100%.
That's not on you.
That's a normal reference for a coffee.
carrot top
No.
joe rogan
That's funny.
carrot top
Yeah, not funny, really.
I mean, funny now.
joe rogan
They would have been pumped if you said Del Taco.
carrot top
All right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
carrot top
But I better.
Now, see, if they told me that, I would have.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Easy.
carrot top
I would have done that.
joe rogan
Hey, brother, this was a lot of fun.
carrot top
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was a lot of fun.
And I'm looking forward to seeing you on Kiltoni.
And anybody who wants to check him out, Caratop is at the Luxor in Las Vegas, Nevada on a regular basis.
What's the best way to find out when?
carrot top
Just text me.
Yeah.
Yeah, Las Vegas.
I mean, Carrotop.com or Las Vegas.
joe rogan
Beautiful.
unidentified
All right, my man.
carrot top
Thank you.
Thank you.
unidentified
That was a lot of fun.
That was.
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