Sept. 6, 2025 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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| I've never seen this guy. | ||
| Yeah, he's always doing he does a lot of the UK ones. | ||
| France is the best crowd, though. | ||
| Great crowd. | ||
| Are they? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Crowdy as fuck. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Rowdy. | ||
| UFC. | ||
| We're good? | ||
| We're live, ladies and gentlemen. | ||
| Here we are. | ||
| Hey, Gordon Ryan in the fucking house. | ||
| Brian Cowan, Brennan Schaub. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Fight companion. | ||
| Um, Jamie, send me the link so I could. | ||
| Did you send it to me? | ||
| All right. | ||
| Uh we'll tweet it out to let all the folks at home. | ||
| Look at Paul Felder. | ||
| Looking like a guy from the 40s. | ||
| Do you know what he majored in in college? | ||
| Dance. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Theater. | ||
| Theater. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| It is funny. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| It is funny. | ||
| He was at the comedy store one night and I was like, Can you phone me that link to you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was at the show, and then he was like, uh I was like, Do you watch a lot of stuff? | ||
| He goes, Well, I majored in theater. | ||
| Bisping did not major in theater, and he's booking a ton of roles. | ||
| Uh he did the commercial I wrote. | ||
| Yeah, but I'm talking real roles. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, your commercial is for UFC guys. | ||
| He's booking like movies. | ||
| Is he really? | ||
| Yeah, like legit movies. | ||
| He's crushing it. | ||
| You want to talk about a guy who has had to struggle. | ||
| His fucking neck was so bad, dude. | ||
| He could barely get out of bed to do podcasts and do his commentary work, and then he's in bed most of the day after that. | ||
| And he has one eye. | ||
| His one eye. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's had his neck fused like three different times. | ||
| I was on the plant with him when he was in a he was he was in this right after his surgery with that, you know, brace, and he was miserable. | ||
| I go, how are you doing? | ||
| He goes, bro. | ||
| He's he's been miserable for years. | ||
| Like in intense pain for years. | ||
| But he's better now, right? | ||
| Yeah, he's he's slightly better. | ||
| We got him some we hooked him up at waist away. | ||
| He uh he got some he got two knee replacements, so he's got two fake knees. | ||
| He's got uh his neck is all fucked up. | ||
| Offer him a fight tomorrow. | ||
| He's like, I'll take it. | ||
|
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Wow. | |
| Wow. | ||
| How about his last fight ever? | ||
| They're like, hey man, are you down to fight Gaslam in China on eight-day notice? | ||
| Yeah, right after you just saw George GSP and got dropped with a left hook. | ||
| He's been fighting since he was 14, man. | ||
| 14. | ||
| Like you can see video of him here, man. | ||
| Oh, he's the face of European MMA. | ||
| He's a Mount Rushmore. | ||
| If they had one over there. | ||
| Bro, he was a beast. | ||
| He was a beast in his day and fought undersized, you know, for a lot of his career at light heavyweight. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Just the fact the guy won the world title with one eyeball. | ||
| I mean, you imagine you got a wife and a family and a future, you're in your 30s, you're like, well, I still have one eye. | ||
| But here's my thing. | ||
| How does so crazy? | ||
| That's so gay. | ||
| We're an eyepatch. | ||
| Is he such a gangster? | ||
| It looks funny like that. | ||
| You have your retina detached. | ||
| And like you can go blind in the and the one eye you do have. | ||
| And he got his retina detached in that eye too. | ||
| So it's like what's crazy is one, and that's doing it. | ||
| You're doing a sport where you can definitely lose. | ||
| Yeah, no doubt. | ||
| What's crazy though too is the commission was like, ah, he's good. | ||
| Well, you know what he did? | ||
| He memorized the fucking scale. | ||
| The eyeball thing where we read like read about the charts. | ||
|
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That's that's it. | |
| That's a junkie for fighting. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| How many guys are looking for a way out all the time? | ||
| You know? | ||
| And this fucking guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fights 10, 11 fights in the UFC with one eyeball. | ||
| He's a legend. | ||
| Legend. | ||
| Unbelievable. | ||
| Just face of it. | ||
| This is gonna be an interesting fight. | ||
| Benoit Saint-Denis and Mauricio Ruffy. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Roofy's fucking crazy at 155. | ||
| He's like a Brazilian Connor. | ||
| But he's huge. | ||
| Huge. | ||
|
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I don't know. | |
| It doesn't make any sense that he is 155. | ||
| He's like 6'2. | ||
| He's strong. | ||
| 6'2. | ||
| He's huge. | ||
| He's on 100 feet. | ||
| He's undefeated in the UFC. | ||
| Bro, he wheel kicked Bobby Green into another dimension. | ||
| He's super talented. | ||
| Cardio's the only question. | ||
| Hasn't fucked competition. | ||
| Is he only 5'11? | ||
| I don't believe that. | ||
| Google B bullshit. | ||
| I think he's tall. | ||
| Come on, Jamie. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| It's 5'11, 156. | ||
| And my fantasy is 6'2. | ||
| I believe he's taller than that. | ||
| Tough I've seen him standing next to like Trickus Duplice C and all these other guys. | ||
| He's like, he's fucking tall as shit, man. | ||
| Tough fight for your boy BSD in his hometown. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| BSD, he takes some chances, man. | ||
| He does, but the the thing is, like striking in striking Roofy has A giant advantage. | ||
| And Roofy's not a slouch on the ground, and Benoit Saint-Denis, really good at judo. | ||
| Yeah, some of these guys who fight at 55 when you see them. | ||
| Like the fact that Michael Chase was able to make 55 at one point in his career is so ridiculous. | ||
| He walks around at 6'2, 200 pounds. | ||
| They tore their fucking kidneys apart, man. | ||
| Just breaking fucking huge. | ||
| Yeah, you're drying your organs out like an old sponge and the biggest thing. | ||
| Like you're Rodriguez at 45? | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| Would you say Kabib was the biggest 55er? | ||
| No. | ||
| Gleason. | ||
| And I think that's the one guy that should have beat him. | ||
| If you look at the record, you know, you look at like Kabib's got an undefeated record. | ||
| There's an asterisk. | ||
| And that asterisk is Gleason. | ||
| Glayson T Bell. | ||
| That was a very fucking close fight that I thought Kabib lost. | ||
| But it was early in Khabib's career. | ||
| You know, it was before he won the title. | ||
| But to your point, Kabib 55, biggest at like the championship level. | ||
| Yeah, I think. | ||
| Cabal was never like world class. | ||
| No, he well, he was world class, but he was never. | ||
| Well, I'm talking like world class in the 55 division, like top five. | ||
| He was never like tip of the spear. | ||
| Well, if you think that he almost won or could have won, he definitely could have gotten that decision over Kabib. | ||
| He's right up close. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But he's a he's you know early. | ||
| Early in Kabib's career, to your point. | ||
| They were 55 is way bigger than Kabib. | ||
| After a while, guys, their body just can't do it anymore. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| It's like, you know, how many fights can you have where you can still fight at at your potential. | ||
| Look at the size of T-bow. | ||
| That's so yo. | ||
| I saw him. | ||
| He was well over 200 pounds. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I saw him at top team, and I couldn't believe how thick he was. | ||
| Bro, he's so thick. | ||
| It made no sense. | ||
| He had a perfect physique. | ||
| Well, the craziest thing to me is Pereira making 85. | ||
| Oh, that's the nutty. | ||
| That's the nutty. | ||
| Hands down. | ||
| I met him. | ||
| I was like a jack 235 once, and I went, he was like way bigger than me. | ||
| How the fuck does this guy make 185? | ||
| And handship. | ||
| Let me take that. | ||
| Like every every part of him is bigger than me. | ||
| Like, how's this guy make one 8055? | ||
| The craziest one was Rob Johnson. | ||
| Yep, yep, yep. | ||
| Rumbo was crazy. | ||
| Rumble was the case. | ||
| I was doing warrior with him. | ||
| He was 235. | ||
| And 170. | ||
| Dude, he fought it 170. | ||
| He was too when I say 235. | ||
| Like, I remember I started saying to Sam Sherton, I go, I feel bad about myself. | ||
| He goes, Why? | ||
| Because I'm looking at fucking uh I didn't grow. | ||
| Like I don't look at him. | ||
| Like I want to look like that. | ||
| I just want to look like him. | ||
| And he sucked down 70. | ||
| It was the craziest shit ever. | ||
| Well, Rumble, look at the size of him in the lower right hand corner. | ||
| He got juicy. | ||
| There's a while there when he just met him when he was fighting at 170. | ||
| I was like 12 years old. | ||
| What did he dive? | ||
| Did he get sepsis or something? | ||
| Liver, something with his liver. | ||
| God damn, man. | ||
| It might have been liver. | ||
| It might have been some kind of a liver cancer or something. | ||
| He was so talented too. | ||
| He came into our gym in like his prime, and the coach was like, Are you right or left hand? | ||
| He's like, whatever you want to do. | ||
| He's like, well, left or right, man. | ||
| He's like, literally, whatever you want to do. | ||
| And he was like 230 pounds. | ||
| We're all oh shit. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| Organ failure due to complications from non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, a rare immune disorder. | ||
| And he had it for a long time. | ||
| He knew he had it. | ||
| That's horrible. | ||
| Remember when he said when he I have to retire, I have I'm retiring for other things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So terrible. | ||
| And then he died like shortly after that. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Happened to my friend. | ||
| Just died. | ||
| Had we didn't know, but he had bone marrow cancer. | ||
| We didn't know. | ||
| And then he went to that restaurant, didn't he? | ||
| Via Veneto. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| My boy Fabrizio, one of my favorite people. | ||
| And he he just uh he stopped answering texts, and I was like, you know, what's going on? | ||
| He and he goes, No, I'm good, brother. | ||
| I'm just I'm just taking a break from everybody, not you, but just like you know, taking a break and relaxing. | ||
| And I was like, this doesn't make sense. | ||
| Turns out he was in LA, and then I think he he got septic and or something like that. | ||
| His family keeps it close to the vest, but that was a good buddy of mine. | ||
| But just crazy that I get a call and says, Hey, he he passed last time. | ||
| But this is Brian in a nutshell. | ||
| We do the show Monday. | ||
| I'm like, hey Benny's like, man, kid. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| My friend died. | ||
|
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Jesus Christ. | |
| Well, I don't know how to I don't know how to deal with it. | ||
| I'm not good with emotion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well it's hard when someone dies because it doesn't feel real. | ||
| It doesn't feel real. | ||
| Especially if you don't see them dead. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's like, what? | ||
| You're not there anymore. | ||
| I call you, you don't answer? | ||
| My buddy called me. | ||
| My buddy calls me and he goes, hey man, uh hey, just look like this. | ||
| He goes, hey man, uh, we lost Fabrizio last night. | ||
| I go, what? | ||
| Where is he? | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| He goes, he passed. | ||
| I go, what? | ||
| Because you had no clue. | ||
| I had no doubt, I had no idea. | ||
|
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He was such a good best. | |
| They fucking release like the ZR1 X specs or ZR1 around like Nurembugger. | ||
| Oh man, let me send this to my dad. | ||
| And like always been fucking dead for five years. | ||
| You took it to another level. | ||
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I'm sorry. | |
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| Bro, that's the Trump card. | ||
| My head, my head just goes down. | ||
| Ah, never mind. | ||
| Yeah, it's weird when people die. | ||
| It is. | ||
| It's very odd. | ||
| Z R1's badass, though. | ||
| The dad would have ZR1. | ||
| They you see that they did the uh Nuremberg fucking test. | ||
| And uh with Professor Nuremberg, it was with the engineer. | ||
| Nuremberg was that's Nazi Germany. | ||
| You mean Nerbergring. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Jason Berg. | ||
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I have no idea how to pronounce it. | |
| I guess the one that begins with an end. | ||
| I drove that ZR1, not the X, but the regular one. | ||
| I drove it around Coda. | ||
| It's fucking incredible. | ||
| It's incredible. | ||
| It's like 1,100 horsepower. | ||
| It sounds like a just like the perfect vehicle. | ||
| It sounds so good. | ||
| It feels so good. | ||
| It's got such handling. | ||
| It's so good, dude. | ||
| It's so fucking fat. | ||
| Does it have a traction issue? | ||
| No. | ||
| Fuck no. | ||
| Giant ass fucking wheels, mid-engine, giant ass tires. | ||
| Dude, the widest tire you can buy on a production automobile. | ||
| But Joe, Joe would drive that shit, then he calls me. | ||
| I'm like, oh, I need to figure out a way to get one. | ||
| I need to sell some shit. | ||
| It's such a good car. | ||
| They they nailed it, man. | ||
| It's like they first of all, they nailed it with the the mid-engine with the Corvette, the C eight. | ||
| And then this is that times a thousand. | ||
| I remember one time, yeah. | ||
| I don't know anything about cars, and Joe pops the hood of this new Porsche he had, and he kind of like he went like this. | ||
| The way you do a magic trick, he goes like that. | ||
| And I I was like, oh man. | ||
| I was like, and you said something about being dual aspiration. | ||
| I was like, dual? | ||
| You don't even know what I said. | ||
| Fucking aspiration. | ||
| You just made up a term. | ||
| Dual. | ||
| It has aspirations. | ||
| It was some dual thing. | ||
| I was like, oh man. | ||
|
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Duel. | |
| It's got two lungs instead of one. | ||
| Michael has one. | ||
| You're just making things up. | ||
| That's what I heard. | ||
| I heard dual aspiration. | ||
| Alright, so this is the first fight. | ||
| Gomez is very good. | ||
| He's from France. | ||
| That's that dude right there. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Very good striker. | ||
| And then who is this gentleman? | ||
| Some white guy. | ||
| That guy looks like he blocked him. | ||
| They blocked him right out of Kentucky. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Poland or Kentucky. | ||
| I've never been to Paris. | ||
| I've I had a layover there once in the airport. | ||
| No desire to go. | ||
| Great city. | ||
| Great city. | ||
| I've no desire to go. | ||
| How do you say that name? | ||
| Ruchala. | ||
| We're chala. | ||
| Richada. | ||
| Rushala. | ||
| Anybody who's fighting in France usually isn't French. | ||
| It's like by way of like Russia. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Armenia. | ||
| Yeah, France is very heavy in terms of its immigration. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| A lot of immigrants. | ||
| A lot of inclusion. | ||
| Francis and Gano. | ||
| That's where he's. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| But he's even with Imavov, you know, that was the build-up to this fight. | ||
| They're like, he's not really French. | ||
| You know, he's originally Dagestani. | ||
| Yeah, or Russian, maybe, right? | ||
| I think Daggy standing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Your fave. | ||
| Yeah, my fave. | ||
| Every time there's a Dag Stanley knocking somebody out, he's like, are you jerking off Callan? | ||
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Huh? | |
| All of those daggy nuts. | ||
| Jerking off their nuts, man. | ||
| Like, look at the way they control their top control, they're flow wrestling, their transitions. | ||
| How about that guy sent you guys in the text message chain today? | ||
| Oh, dude. | ||
| That young kid. | ||
| That axe kick, that axe kick. | ||
| The thing about that kid, though, is I don't think he's a grappler. | ||
| I think it's just Moy Thai. | ||
| That's why he's fighting in one. | ||
| It's always weird when you see a daggy and he's good at stand-up but not wrestling. | ||
| What the fuck you've been doing? | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Yeah, well, that's Sarah Bullet at 145. | ||
| Six foot at 145 is kind of bananas. | ||
| Oh, Cher Bullet's fighting uh Paulo Costa. | ||
| Oh, that's a good guy with one eye. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Share a bullet's out of his fucking mind. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's a big boy. | ||
| How the fuck does he pass commit? | ||
| What's the commission doing? | ||
| You're good. | ||
| He doesn't fight in America. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where we have rules. | ||
| No, didn't he fight? | ||
| I don't think he fought in America yet. | ||
| I don't believe so. | ||
| Did he? | ||
| I think you're right. | ||
| I don't believe he's fought in America. | ||
| They're like, you just stay out there. | ||
| I thought it was gonna be tricky for Hamza to fight here, but once Trump became president, they say, come on in, buddy. | ||
| First round, if you want to sync up to us, it's 452, 451, 450, 449, 448. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| First round. | ||
| This is a very good card, though. | ||
| Great card. | ||
| Especially the last two fights. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| For the locals, too. | ||
| Like there's a bunch of big names in France on here. | ||
| Like if you're watching local MMA, all the top stars on this card. | ||
| They they stacked this one, right? | ||
| Yo, our board Kentucky can move. | ||
| Is he from Kentucky? | ||
| He is now. | ||
| Gordon, you should, you should Gordon, you should take a couple MMA fights and just turtle up and just get away. | ||
| They're all in a part of the world, like my friend. | ||
| Not a problem. | ||
| Not a problem, my friend. | ||
| He did film a movie in Hollywood, though, so they allowed him to do that. | ||
| Sure. | ||
| And he was a pirate. | ||
| They probably put an ankle monitor on him. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| He's not hard to find. | ||
| Find that red red bearded guy with one eye. | ||
| Yeah, his only hiccup was Michael Venom Page. | ||
| Well, that just shows you how fucking good Michael Venom Page is. | ||
| That's the puzzle. | ||
| I like MVP at 85. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Love my 85. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Well, it's a good thing. | ||
| The cannoner fight, I was like, ah, the size. | ||
| This is where he might meet his match. | ||
| Fucked him up. | ||
| But he fucked around too much. | ||
| Cannoneer got him on his back. | ||
| And that's on M MVP. | ||
| Like, dude, you if you have a guy at that caliber hurt, fucking finish him, dude. | ||
| Don't wait around. | ||
| How about Cannonier at 42? | ||
| He looks like he's made of metal. | ||
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He is. | |
| Hand me that lighter, buddy. | ||
| It's interesting with with uh uh MVP because he's like so hard to take down because he always has down block hands. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he all the punches come from the bottom, and he also has a down block ends. | ||
| But then once he actually gets put on bottom, he didn't wasn't he couldn't get up. | ||
| Those guys with that point fighting style are so hard to touch because they're so used to playing that tag game, and their ability to close distance is nuts. | ||
| Yeah, when you're in the blitz, his speed. | ||
| Oh, accuracy, too. | ||
| I mean, he makes everybody look stupid. | ||
| He make he made Kevin Holland look stupid. | ||
| I wonder stupid. | ||
| I wonder what they do with an 85 though, because you start going towards those upper echelon guys, it gets dicey. | ||
| Well, it's gonna be interesting to see. | ||
| You know, it's gonna be interesting to see. | ||
| As long as he doesn't fuck around like he did in the third round with Cannoneer, I think people are gonna have a really hard time even touching him. | ||
| Early on for sure. | ||
| He's just so fun to watch anyway. | ||
| I would keep him as he's just so entertaining. | ||
| No, dude, you do you there's so many super fights? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Did you see what he's saying to the cannon here? | ||
| Calm down, chill, bro. | ||
| Chill in my middle of the fight. | ||
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Chill. | |
| After he punched him in the face, chill. | ||
| Chill. | ||
| Like, what do you do to that? | ||
| No, the guy just punches you in the face. | ||
| And he's telling you to chill. | ||
| You swing an air because it's just like, oh god. | ||
| Think how good Ian Machado Gary is. | ||
| I know. | ||
| People sleep on Ian. | ||
| He's such a beast, man. | ||
| Yeah, you can't. | ||
| Well, it just shows you how good Shovcott is. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Right? | ||
| The only guy that's ever beat him by decision. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that was a good thing. | ||
| You're doing Shovcott versus Sean Brady. | ||
| That's a good fight. | ||
| I love that fight. | ||
| That's a real good fight. | ||
| That's a real good fight. | ||
| I'd like to know what injury Shovcott had that led him to not take the title shot. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, it must have been a serious process. | ||
| He had surgery. | ||
| I know he had surgery. | ||
| But apparently before the Machado fight, he was not going to take that fight. | ||
| Like he's that injured. | ||
| But he took that fight, won that fight, and then had to get surgery. | ||
| He had a lot of hype too, and then just kind of went. | ||
| Yeah, people forget, man, there's so many good dudes. | ||
| You know, it's Carlos Protest is coming up. | ||
| How about that fucking guy? | ||
| Jeff Neal. | ||
| Now he's fighting Leon Edwards. | ||
| Ooh, Protez versus Edwards. | ||
| Pretty sure it's on Mass More. | ||
| Is it Mass Square Garden, Jamie? | ||
| Protest is so much taller than I can. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That's a tough fight for Leon. | ||
| That's a tough fight. | ||
| Well, the kid's an animal. | ||
| Protez at smoking cigarettes, drinking. | ||
| Again. | ||
| Machado Gary beat him. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Beat him. | ||
| People sleeping on Ian. | ||
| He had Machado hurt though. | ||
| He dropped him, remember? | ||
| Is it Mass Square Garden? | ||
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So, yeah. | |
| So Brady's fighting Shovkad? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Like that fight a lot. | ||
| Brady baby gorilla. | ||
| Brady was impressive when he fought Leon. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Like he did. | ||
| He did a lot of, he did most of the things right to keep him down. | ||
| Yeah, and he's got like extra layers of muscle on his back that make him look like a turtle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Who is his loss to? | ||
| Who did he look to? | ||
| Bala Maham B. Balal stop. | ||
| He got beat up back. | ||
| That fight. | ||
| But he learned from it. | ||
| Edwards versus Protestant. | ||
| How about Pratt is just smoking cigs? | ||
| Yeah, no, it's crazy. | ||
| It's like Joe Shilling. | ||
| I love it. | ||
| It's like whole personas basically like, I'm gonna prove you can be degenerate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And still fuck people up. | ||
| Well, he can. | ||
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Yeah, he's he's doing it. | |
| He's that good. | ||
| But also, over a hundred fights. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Multiple kickboxing, MMA. | ||
| Over 100. | ||
| He's a talented kid. | ||
| Under 30. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Right? | ||
| How old is he? | ||
| How old's Pratt's? | ||
| I think he's 28. | ||
| That's like those Russian amateur fighters. | ||
| 32? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, is he really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's like a Russian boxers. | ||
| The amateur careers will be like 150 fights before they even turn pro. | ||
| Bro, the craziest guys are the ties. | ||
| Bulkov just fought recently. | ||
| He's 43. | ||
| I think he has 287 fights. | ||
| So insane. | ||
| What? | ||
| So what? | ||
| What? | ||
| But I think 287 times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| but that's boxing in general, kickboxing in general. | ||
| Like even the states, that's typically how it is. | ||
| Like those those young dudes have so many amateur fights. | ||
| But we're used to the Jake Paul's and this shit, and people just jump to the top. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Where it's kind of watering it down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They they they're brought up with people that are at their level slowly, especially with boxing. | ||
| Speaking of boxing, what do you think about like next week? | ||
| Canelo? | ||
| Can't wait. | ||
| Oh, Canelo, Crawford. | ||
| See, I don't think it's gonna be that entertaining of a fight. | ||
| What? | ||
| What makes you say that? | ||
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Why? | |
| I mean, I guess if Crawford takes some chances, but you he's jumping up such a high weight class. | ||
| I Canelo by decision. | ||
| I tell you what though, Crawford looks thick. | ||
| You see the photos of him that he put on his Instagram? | ||
| He's got big legs. | ||
| I know. | ||
| He's fucking jacked. | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| You think it makes them fast? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| Piss tells how dare you. | ||
| But B, I'm not sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm not sure though. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Come on, son. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Call's jerking off to this later. | ||
| I am. | ||
| I have a boner that could cut glass right now. | ||
| There's a photo on one of the websites that shows him at uh when he's fighting at 47, ripped versus him fighting now at 68 ripped, and he definitely looks thicker. | ||
| He looks quite quite a bit thicker. | ||
| Technical, he he's better than Canelo. | ||
| I just don't see him being Canelo. | ||
| I don't know if he's better technically. | ||
| Canelo's pretty good technical. | ||
| Pound for pound number one in the world. | ||
| He's so good. | ||
| Not even close. | ||
| Crawford's so good. | ||
| What he did to Errol Spence is unbelievable. | ||
| But then also remember, Crawford hasn't fought in two years. | ||
| Is it that long? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's great in this way. | ||
| Madromov was two years ago. | ||
| Well, the thing about Errol Spence, though, you gotta remember Errol Spence crashed his Ferrari and flipped it and flew out and landed on his head. | ||
| Like he got fucked up in that car accident. | ||
| I know, but I don't think it had anything to do with it. | ||
| I think Crawford's just got a hire fighter. | ||
| No, it had to do something with it. | ||
| A guy that gets that fucked up. | ||
| Crawford's so good. | ||
| Like he does that to everybody. | ||
| Crawford's so good. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
| He was like he was ejected from his Ferrari. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Landed on his skull. | ||
| It is crying. | ||
| Go back to the colour. | ||
| Callan, you need to take a screenshot of that and bring it into the table. | ||
| Dude, it's burned in my mind. | ||
| It's burning my mind. | ||
| Bring it into the bathroom later. | ||
| I'll start crying. | ||
| That's fantastic. | ||
| When you come, you're gonna cry. | ||
| But I'm full of shame. | ||
| As you're coming, oh no. | ||
| And then I'll watch it, and then I'll then I'll look at it again. | ||
| And then you look at yourself in the mirror. | ||
| Think about Canelo Crawford, you got Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather, that's happening. | ||
| And then you have Jake Paul, Javante Davis. | ||
| That's the state of boxing. | ||
| Yeah, that's crazy. | ||
| Let that sink in. | ||
| Jake boxing. | ||
| Javante Davis is so crazy. | ||
| 135 versus 200. | ||
| That is so nuts. | ||
| They all they're all ex or expedition. | ||
| None of them are they're exhibitions. | ||
| But what does that mean? | ||
| Just means you don't really nobody wins. | ||
| They're not right. | ||
| It's kind of I mean it's weird. | ||
| I don't want Jake to assume that they're not it's not like a real scrap. | ||
| It's not real. | ||
| Really? | ||
| So they're not trying to knock each other out. | ||
| No, Mike Tyson and Floyd Mayweather don't like each other. | ||
| They have not liked each other forever. | ||
| Tyson and Mayweather. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But they like Mike Tyson and Mayweather don't like each other. | ||
| If there's a fight that might be real, like where Mike Tyson might say, I'm gonna knock this motherfucker out, or I'm gonna try to knock this motherfucker out. | ||
| It would be Floyd. | ||
| They wouldn't. | ||
| Yeah, because if you look at like the Jake Paul fight, no disrespect. | ||
| And if you look at the Roy Jones fight, no disrespect. | ||
| They look like they're sparring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| It looked like there was agreements made. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Uh I uh I do not know if Mike would honor any of those agreements. | ||
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Really? | |
| If there was a moment to be for years. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If there was a moment to really could he hit him? | ||
| I mean, that little motherfucker can move still at 50 years old. | ||
| He's so slick. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's still in shape. | ||
| He's still fit. | ||
| They're both old as fuck. | ||
| Old as fuck. | ||
| But this is the boxing. | ||
| How old is Mayweather? | ||
| 67? | ||
| Dude, Bernard Hopkins. | ||
| Bernard Hopkins was still at the best in the world at 50. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I mean, that's incredible. | ||
| That doesn't mean shit though. | ||
| With this. | ||
| Because he was active fighting contenders. | ||
| Kentucky's got Gomez on the ground. | ||
| You're talking about two retired guys. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Fighting the exhibition. | ||
| It's so weird though. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It is weird. | ||
| It's money grabs. | ||
| I don't like it, but it's fun. | ||
| You know, something to watch. | ||
| I hate on it, but tune in. | ||
| Yeah, I'll tune it out. | ||
| It's you know, it's but it's not really fighting. | ||
| So Jake Paul's not gonna actually be trying to knock out Germany Davis, you know. | ||
| If I had a guess. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The event itself would be a world-class venue be presented to a global audience with new in-ring technology elements that will reshape how boxing is presented and scoring is achieved for years to come. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| That shit has Abu Dhabi written all over. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| This is Tyson versus Mayweather. | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Where are they doing that? | ||
| Are they doing that in Saudi Arabia? | ||
| Of but of course. | ||
| But of course. | ||
| Because they have all the money. | ||
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My friend. | |
| And they just they just go, What do you want to see? | ||
| I'd always like to see Floyd Tyson. | ||
| Who wants to fight an alligator? | ||
| They got that oil money dog. | ||
| This I'm really curious about uh Crawford uh Canelo. | ||
| Because they're they're actually kind of the same size, same height. | ||
| They're not the same size. | ||
| They're not the same size. | ||
| They look they look pretty much the same size, but I know. | ||
| No, but once it made a career fighting at much heavier, right? | ||
| It would be like a one thirty-five or jump up to one seventy. | ||
| You can lose the same size frame wise. | ||
| Yeah, but one guy made a career, finding at 170. | ||
| But right now, right now they kind of are the same size. | ||
| Well, right now. | ||
| But once a naturally gifted bigger guy and is competed at world class level at that heavy weight. | ||
| So you can't say they're the same. | ||
| Yeah, you're not gonna be as fast. | ||
| He had to put on a lot of weight. | ||
| And one made a career at that major adaptations. | ||
| The other one's just doing it for a money grab. | ||
| He hasn't fought in two years. | ||
| Well, he was doing it for legacy, and he is he is like he prepared for this. | ||
| It's not like he just went had a fight at 147 and then jumped up to 68 three months later. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like he really big jump though, isn't it? | ||
| He did a sixty eight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| I'm I'm interested in that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just because I think Crawford's that good. | ||
| I just don't think I think this is the problem with boxings. | ||
| They built these things up like, you know, Jake and Tyson and people think it's me this great product, or Crawford and Canelo. | ||
| And it's not there's not much action. | ||
| Bro, I'll tell you who's this real fucking deal. | ||
| Moses. | ||
| Moses Atoma. | ||
| Do you know who that motherfucker is? | ||
| The giant 20 year old heavy. | ||
| Oh, yes. | ||
| Yes, bro. | ||
| Did you see what he did to Dillion White? | ||
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Yes, he's a project. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| That guy's a big thing. | ||
| Is he only 20? | ||
| 20 years old. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's just slightly older than Tyson was when he won the title, so he can't be the youngest guy to ever win the title. | ||
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Damn. | |
| This motherfucker is so fast. | ||
| He moves like a middleweight. | ||
| Here's I Tom. | ||
| Watch this guy. | ||
| That's that Samoan, Samoan or whatever it is. | ||
| Bro, look at the fucking skill. | ||
| It's the skill, the movement back in the world. | ||
| It's no joke either. | ||
| Don't white's no joke. | ||
| Look at this shit. | ||
| It'd be nice if you said his name right. | ||
| It's Dillion. | ||
| But it's all right. | ||
| Bro, he tuned this guy up. | ||
| One round, man. | ||
| I mean, again, White is past his promise. | ||
| He's also gotten beat up. | ||
| White's gotten up. | ||
| Yeah, sure. | ||
| Tyson Fury beat him up. | ||
| A lot of guys. | ||
| But this is the test you want for this young contender. | ||
| It's the way he did it. | ||
| He did it like I'm a world champion. | ||
| Mop the floor with a water. | ||
| Didn't Deontay Wilder start starts him as well. | ||
| Oh, I don't know if they fought. | ||
| I don't know if Deontay fought Dillion Wild. | ||
| They're trying to do Deontay Wilder Francis. | ||
| They're talking shit to each other. | ||
| Take my fucking money. | ||
| Yeah, take that. | ||
| See, that that's not an exhibition. | ||
| That that the MMA boxing, take my that, take my fucking money. | ||
| But Crawford Canelo's not an exhibition, Bubba. | ||
| Who do you think gets knocked out in that one? | ||
| At this stage of the game? | ||
| I don't know if you gotta you know what the problem with Wilder is? | ||
| He did all that ayahuasca. | ||
| He's too friendly. | ||
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Whenever someone does too much ayahuasca, I'm like, oh, he's losing. | |
| Or any ayahuasca. | ||
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If you want to be a fighter. | |
| I lost the killer and thing. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Darkness. | ||
| That happens to a lot of guys. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, they come back and they're just like too sweet. | ||
| Some of them say all of them. | ||
| My buddy just came back from doing a 10-day ayahuasca retreat. | ||
| He's made billions of dollars. | ||
| And he goes, I go, how was it? | ||
| He goes, it was intense. | ||
| And I go, Oh, that's cool. | ||
| And he goes, I just have a deeper appreciation for my friends. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Did you say that? | ||
| It was great. | ||
| He goes, I thought about you. | ||
| I was like, oh boy, this is getting awkward. | ||
| I was rocking a card thing by say, hey, give me some money. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
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It's still high. | |
| I'd love to pay my mortgage. | ||
| Before this one's still high. | ||
| Cut me a check. | ||
| Did you tell Robert? | ||
| Did you tell Rogue that time he did ayahuasca? | ||
| If it's mushrooms, I don't want to get into that. | ||
| What'd you do? | ||
| No, no, I didn't say it got real bad. | ||
| Tell him I literally did the God dose or whatever. | ||
| He didn't mean to do it. | ||
| Dude, I did three grams and I was in Mother Earth's vagina. | ||
| And then I did four more grams because I was invited to take more medicine, and the sun sucked me into his mouth and spit me out into one of the upper rings. | ||
| No, no, but tell what you're doing in real life. | ||
| Don't tell him what the word you're saying. | ||
| So I'm gonna just say this. | ||
| I I I was uh I apparently I was because I thought I was in hell. | ||
| Apparently for four hours I was asking for a manager. | ||
| I was asking to speak to a manager. | ||
| Yeah, because I needed to get out of there because I was like, I need to speak to a manager. | ||
| I don't believe I'm a good person. | ||
| I just tripped into a portal. | ||
| I need to get home and hell wrote in the real. | ||
| I don't want to get into the profusely farting. | ||
| my buddy goes, you were in a you were in the field position farting so loud. | ||
| Screaming and screaming. | ||
| Screwing this word we can't say. | ||
| Screaming a lot of different words that you're not allowed to say on the top. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Dude, when he told me, I was like, what the fuck? | ||
| That's why they're illegal. | ||
| Dude, I don't remember anything. | ||
| I don't remember anything. | ||
| You try to get me to do it. | ||
| I'm like, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| Slightly less. | ||
| Yeah, you know what I learned? | ||
| Don't do mushrooms anymore. | ||
| When I did Well, just don't do seven grams when you're troubled. | ||
| You made me eat a whole chocolate bar on this podcast. | ||
| You had to. | ||
| You see that because you look at me in in the video, I'm like this. | ||
| It had to had to be done. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But that's like three. | ||
| Three's a three's reasonable. | ||
| You get to around five and things get very strange. | ||
| Then you start meeting aliens. | ||
| Joe, now that you stop uh alcohol, yeah. | ||
| Are you smoking more more weed? | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| Which usually how it goes. | ||
| Allegedly. | ||
| I thought you stopped smoking weed. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| Maybe. | ||
| They gotta make that shit legal. | ||
| I gotta talk to the big guy. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Donald, you want to make some friends? | ||
| Texas. | ||
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This is how you go. | |
| This is how it goes. | ||
| You want to make some real friends? | ||
| You will like they won't know what to do. | ||
| Dude, he's in see what he's doing right now in Chicago? | ||
| This is one of the funniest things ever. | ||
| They are now saying they're going to look into taking gun rights away from transgender people. | ||
| So what happens now is liberals have to defend gun rights. | ||
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I love it. | |
| I know it's a genius. | ||
| This is like the ultimate trap. | ||
| This is like the ultimate trap. | ||
| It's like the meme of the guy sweating with the two buttons. | ||
| It's like first of all, he says things that he doesn't mean. | ||
| Like it's wild when a president says we're looking into taking away Rosie O'Donnell citizenship. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| I saw a meme yesterday and was like, Imagine Rosie O'Donnell moves to Ireland to escape Trump and then McGregor just becomes the legal. | ||
| Very well might. | ||
| He really might win. | ||
| I saw the some video he posted like campaigning for it's at like 50 million views. | ||
| Apparently he has like sixty percent in the poll. | ||
| Wait, who's this? | ||
| Connor McGregor, being the president of Ireland. | ||
| He just did like that. | ||
| You know what that motherfucker's basically Arnold Schwarzenegger, but for for us for the UFC. | ||
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Uh uh meeting movie, you know, movie star, yeah. | |
| Two time world champion. | ||
| Now if he becomes president, that's not actor. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Well, there's a there's a real movement, you know, in in England and in Ireland because of this sort of like unchecked immigration. | ||
| Well, dude, Elon's gone off the off the fucking chain too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Elon's making posts like you guys gotta fight back. | ||
| Oh yeah, man. | ||
| Because people are getting arrested in England just for posting stuff on social media about it. | ||
| Bro, they're post they are arresting thousands of people in England. | ||
| Did they say 1400 a day? | ||
| Who was on my podcast? | ||
| Yeah, he left my podcast, went back to England and they arrested him. | ||
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What? | |
| Oh wow. | ||
| I I just had Tommy Robinson online. | ||
| You know Tommy Robinson is? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he got arrested uh for the same thing for for a documentary, and I just had him on. | ||
| He got arrested for a document. | ||
| Yes, dude, he did 18 months. | ||
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What? | |
| He just got out, he just did the podcast. | ||
| What was the documentary about? | ||
| It was basically about his hometown, which he grew in up to. | ||
| It started out with one mosque, and now there are 49 in his hometown of Luton. | ||
| I think it's called Lutton. | ||
| And basically just talking about uh the grooming gangs and stuff. | ||
| Um it is crazy what they're doing. | ||
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They just didn't check immigration the hiking band, the bank of Canada. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| You can't go for climate change. | ||
| I watched a video yesterday. | ||
| They find you 28,000. | ||
| Of a veteran, like takes a video like, hey, I'm with the guys here, not on camera because we're not allowed to record them. | ||
| But they said that if I walk into the woods here, I'm gonna get a 28,000 dollar fine. | ||
| Are you fucking kidding? | ||
| He takes a video of him, he walks three feet into the woods, walks out, and then he's there's a video of him at the desk saying, It's a twenty-eight thousand dollars. | ||
| Oh, it's like a twenty-five thousand dollar fine plus like three thousand dollars in like taxes and victim fees. | ||
| Canada's so full of Canada's such a mess. | ||
| Well, they are what we can be if we're not careful. | ||
| If you have the wrong people running the country, cautionary I mean, if if it gave it got to a point where some of these people, if you took away the natural born citizenship thing, like if you could be a president and never born in America, we'd be fucked. | ||
| Super fucked. | ||
| We'd be fucked because we're already fucked when they become mayors and uh and and when they become governor, if they if that starts happening, you're just gonna import people from all over the world and they're gonna take whatever their country is and make that state it. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| Is it true that when you have un so if you have a bunch of illegal immigrants in your town? | ||
| Your your your census numbers go up? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So so Congressional seats. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the way it works is the census only counts how many human beings. | ||
| It doesn't count how many illegal aliens. | ||
| It doesn't matter. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| So that's why they were moving people in with buses. | ||
| So that's why they moved all these people to swing states. | ||
| So you're basically rigging these areas. | ||
| And then they were trying to offer a pathway to citizenship and allow those people to vote, which would have completely rigged all the swing states. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, Elon talked about it pretty extensively and documented it. | ||
| It's it's a real thing. | ||
| And people push back about it, it's a dangerous conspiracy theory. | ||
| But it's not. | ||
| Because the census counts people. | ||
| And the more people you have, the more congressional seats you get. | ||
| If they just eliminated that, the Democrats would be cooked. | ||
| If I don't know if that's even legal, though. | ||
| I think constitutionally it's it's basically the way it's set up, it's supposed to be the amount of people. | ||
| It's not supposed to be the amount of legal citizens, which which it should be. | ||
| Congressional seats. | ||
| I mean, come on, it's crazy. | ||
| Especially when you're just opening up the border and you allowed 20 million people to come in over a period of four years, which is a massive percentage of the population of the United States. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| Like twenty twenty million people. | ||
| I was like, it's so much huge percentage of the original population. | ||
| Tommy Robinson told me forty-three percent, I don't know if this is true, but I think it's something like forty-three percent of the immigrants that come into the UK and I think in Europe in general, are on the dole, but especially in the UK. | ||
| So they're on the dole. | ||
| They're they're literally on welfare. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And and the main problem is that a lot of these people from certain countries don't assimilate. | ||
| No. | ||
| Because they are you know, uh Islamic first and then, you know, and essentially the the whole idea is to get a caliphate uh create a caliphate in the UK, which is insane. | ||
| Well, they're doing it. | ||
| That's what's really insane is that they're doing it. | ||
| But the thing is like who's allowing this to happen? | ||
| And what's the end goal? | ||
| Do you see the new lady who apparently was just the uh just got elected for in the UK for like for like border patrol and it's just like her with Arabic or farse or whatever it is written behind her? | ||
| Oh yeah, she wants Sharia law. | ||
| Like it's it's completely bananas. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is the problem. | ||
| It's like you want to assimilate, great, doesn't matter where you're from, what your religion, who cares? | ||
| But if you want to start overthrowing the very country that you're emigrating into, make them a lot of people. | ||
| But the bomb is if you say something against it, then oh your race. | ||
| I'm not racist. | ||
| I grew up in the Arab world. | ||
| Fuck from I'm the farthest thing from I love I grew up with the Arabs and and Muslims, so don't you can't call me that, but that's fucking crazy. | ||
| I'm not racist. | ||
| Yeah, everybody ever raised black trans. | ||
| Here's the difference though. | ||
| Can I just say this? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The the biggest thing that the left does is this. | ||
| You you say there's a problem, which is a legit problem. | ||
| You say, you know, uh London's now minority uh country, th there there's there are these young Muslim men, for example, who are not assimilating and are becoming militant and fundamentalist. | ||
| Okay, you say something like that. | ||
| What then a leftist will say is they'll go, instead of like debating that issue, which is a problem, you're just stating a problem. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| They will say, Oh, you're you're Islamophobic, you're xenophobic, and you're racist. | ||
| So they they they diagnose you. | ||
| They kind of they I'm stealing this from Nick Friedest, by the way, so shout out to Nick Fritis. | ||
| But that that's what they'll do. | ||
| They'll they'll diagnose the person and their personality and their character, not they'll step outside of the debate. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you can't have a conversation with people like that. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| But that's how it's scary though, is because there's no talking point. | ||
| There's like there's no common ground that you can. | ||
| You can't agree on that. | ||
|
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| So it's like if I'm over here and you're over here, and we both can't meet somewhere in the middle. | ||
|
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Right. | |
| Men can't get pregnant. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| At some point you just have to fight. | ||
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Right. | |
| You've got a divorce, or you have to you have to fight. | ||
| But don't you think that this is on purpose? | ||
| I think it's to keep each other at each other's throats. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| It's to keep us in chaos so that they can implement more control. | ||
| And it's working. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, is it? | ||
| Or are we starting to get wise to the fact that we're all being game? | ||
| It's a battle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a battle. | ||
| Or the matter wise to it, though. | ||
| Well, it's a wor it's working on a lot of people. | ||
| There's a lot of people that are just falling right in. | ||
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| They're falling right in line. | ||
| And you know, and if you tell them that they're homophobic or xenophobic or transphobic, they'll do whatever the fuck they can to avoid that label, and so then they fall right into your trap. | ||
| Although Trump did get elected, and it seems like the that that argument by the by the left is starting to lose a lot of its state. | ||
| Yeah, but it only he only elected by half the country. | ||
| Right. | ||
| The other half the country didn't want them. | ||
| That's a lot of people. | ||
| It's a lot of people. | ||
| So it worked on a lot of people. | ||
| They were in the the process of implementing a plan. | ||
| And that plan, if it worked, would have made this country a one party state. | ||
| But disliking Trump and disliking those policies are two different things, right? | ||
| So there are people that are conservative who don't like Trump. | ||
| There are people that are moderate Democrats or Republicans who don't like Trump. | ||
| My my question is you would know this better. | ||
| How much of this stuff online is real? | ||
| Is real bots? | ||
| Bots. | ||
| How much? | ||
| Huge percentage. | ||
| Really still. | ||
| An FBI analyst said his money is 80% of the people that are posting on Twitter are bots. | ||
| What? | ||
| Posting what though? | ||
| Just political shit? | ||
| All kinds of stuff. | ||
| Climate, politics, race, gender. | ||
| There was uh that China just got busted using Chat GPT to run uh a host of different accounts, a bunch of different accounts that were all posting about USA B USAI being shut down. | ||
| They were posting about L L B G T Q plus TA, whatever the fuck issues. | ||
| Just to divide us more. | ||
| Just trying to get it. | ||
| So Brian Shaw told me that he posted a picture of him and Jordan Peterson. | ||
| He always gets love, you know, he's the strong man. | ||
| And he said that he was getting all this like immediately, just all these comments that were like, how could you do this and stuff like that? | ||
| Then he'd go to the profile and be like, this is this doesn't feel like it's real. | ||
| No, not a real person. | ||
| It's not a real person. | ||
| There's a giant percentage on Instagram, a giant percentage on Facebook and on Twitter that are not real. | ||
| And it's legal and you can do it, and I bet we do it too. | ||
| I bet corporations do it. | ||
| I bet human you can crowdfund, by the way, on purpose, like say if Brian Cowan, well, if you like you ha hated Brendan Chob, it shouldn't be the fighter and the kid, it should be the kid and the kid, just me. | ||
| Everybody agrees. | ||
| You could literally you could literally go to a company and have them attack Brendan Chab. | ||
| And you would pay for it. | ||
| And they would use their bots. | ||
| Yeah, I'm sure. | ||
| Well, it's been it can be done on anyone. | ||
| That's the point. | ||
| It's like any whatever your goal is. | ||
| Say, let's get rid of all red lights. | ||
| No more no more traffic lights. | ||
| You could do that. | ||
| You you could have whatever the fuck you want, have a bunch of fake people protesting. | ||
| What a waste of fucking time. | ||
| You know, you can't do that. | ||
| But it's not really. | ||
| It's not really what you're talking about. | ||
| It's effective with dumb people. | ||
| Yeah, especially if we have a country doing it. | ||
| Like China can do it to us. | ||
| But we can't do it to them. | ||
| Right. | ||
| We can't get into their system. | ||
| They have whatever they want. | ||
| The people know. | ||
| Oh, well, we're a company. | ||
| They run their own propaganda and they run it against us, which is that might be the least of our problems. | ||
| We let them buy land around military bases. | ||
| I mean, the biggest issue with China is definitely AI. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| But you those two dudes you had on here with AI, they're saying we're actually still a step ahead of them. | ||
| I don't know if they know. | ||
| Did I summarize that? | ||
| Yeah, they they said that at the time, but I don't know if they know. | ||
| Because here's the thing. | ||
| They steal all the data from open AI. | ||
| They steal data from like Grok just got infiltrated by this guy who stole their shit allegedly and then sold it to open AI and open AI got infiltrated allegedly by China. | ||
| Like these you've got all these Chinese nationals that are over here working. | ||
| Yeah, that's how they're in the air. | ||
| They're Chinese nations. | ||
| Because remember when we when we had Tulsa, this was like the biggest problem America's facing, for sure. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Because when we had Tulsi Gabriel on the podcast right now, I was like, yeah, Russian uh what did it say? | ||
| Russian hackers. | ||
| I kept talking about Russian hackers, and she's like, hey, uh off the air, she's like, just so you know, we're better at hacking than they are. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| We have better hackers. | ||
| So the whole thing keep talking about with Russians. | ||
| I don't know, I kept saying Russians. | ||
| She was like, America's actually has way better people to hack all that shit. | ||
| But it's an arms race. | ||
| It's a it's uh it's an AI race. | ||
| Yeah, the thing is they're all together. | ||
| It's the government with the corporations in China, they're all in lockstep. | ||
| They're not like in battle with their corporations. | ||
| Corporations do what the government says. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| They tried that over here with Facebook, like when Facebook, when they c the FBI clamped down on them, told them to get rid of the the Hunter Biden laptop story. | ||
| They did it. | ||
| Well, they didn't at Facebook. | ||
| They kind of limited the reach, but Twitter they completely blocked it. | ||
| But the other thing that they did was they told them to get rid of factual information about COVID. | ||
| Factual information. | ||
| The government was contacting Zuckerberg. | ||
| Because they didn't want vaccine hesitancy because they wanted to make more money. | ||
| Gotta get more. | ||
| Was it money or was it did they believe that the vaccine was saving lives? | ||
| Money. | ||
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For sure. | |
| Money. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Look at you, you you're so cute. | ||
| They just wanted to save lives. | ||
| He's still one of those guys. | ||
| No, Brian's still one of those guys. | ||
| Brian's still one of those guys. | ||
| There's a lot of goddamn things the government cares about him, dude. | ||
| I really am. | ||
| It's not a goddamn thing the government does for you. | ||
| Like for you make your life better. | ||
| Everything they do is to either get elected, raise more money, campaign, like more more money, like raising money for causes. | ||
| It's their own agenda. | ||
| You see in the UK now they're like they're like, we're gonna deal we have a we have a solution to deal with mass immigration. | ||
| We're going to digital IDs. | ||
| So it's like they created an issue. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And then they're gonna they're and then they're gonna give you a solution to give them more. | ||
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That's why when I what you're doing, my thing is how much fucking money does. | |
| But what you just said, what you just said about the government, whether it's true or not, that's a very important thing to keep in to believe. | ||
| I have representative. | ||
| She was we were talking about certain issues. | ||
| She goes, they don't want to resolve those issues because they could fundraise against them. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| How about so they literally st don't they don't reach resolution? | ||
| But my question, Joe, is how much money do they need? | ||
| Like uh they always need new money every week. | ||
| But my thing is like Pelosi, like how much money is that big heavy bitch out? | ||
| She has the biggest it's like a half a billion, half a billion dollars. | ||
| And she just keeps the four million. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well her husband. | ||
| I mean he's he's he's uh he's uh he's always been an investor, you know. | ||
| Yeah, but the way he's doing his insider trade. | ||
| Right, it doesn't mean it's not it doesn't mean it's all in the up and up, obviously. | ||
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But I'm just saying how how much uh how long does she need to eighty TV? | |
| The answer to that is that government will continue to grow like a Leviathan. | ||
| And it it it it does what does it do? | ||
| Well that that's why they want two parties here. | ||
| They they they want no no common talking ground between the two parties, so we just keep fighting. | ||
| Well, that might be good. | ||
| You want government to to fight each other, right? | ||
| You want you want this divide and conquer thing so government moves at a glacial pace. | ||
| That would be the idea. | ||
| Yeah, but right? | ||
| But government is the issue. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Remember when Elon was trying to start the American the American uh wing? | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| You started it's like the not democrat. | ||
| Yeah, third party's never really it's hard. | ||
| First of all, I don't think you're allowed to name it. | ||
| I think we looked into that. | ||
| You're not allowed to name your party, the America Party. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| You can't call it America because then if you go against it, you're going against America. | ||
| That's fair. | ||
| That's like the Patriot Pond. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The genius of the Patriot Act was. | ||
| I don't know how that's gonna work in effect. | ||
| Like if he if he starts another party, it's a little bit. | ||
| Oh, there we go, it's back. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Uh C's leaving ESPN the ESPN said, Why don't you guys have to do that? | ||
| Looks like a bruise. | ||
| Uh he's got something. | ||
| But could be big toe to the titty. | ||
| It doesn't look like staff. | ||
| No. | ||
| Staff is usually raised. | ||
| It just looks kind of red. | ||
| It doesn't really look raised from here, but I can't tell. | ||
| The worst one ever was Kevin Lee. | ||
| Remember when Kevin Lee went to the welt. | ||
| He has like makeup on it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Was that when he fought Tony? | ||
| Was it that fight? | ||
| That could be anything. | ||
| That doesn't look raised though. | ||
| Dude, how about Tony got a win the other night? | ||
| Uh I heard that staff doesn't come from the mat, it comes from the person you're rolling with. | ||
| Is this up Jamie? | ||
| Oh, that is staff. | ||
| That's all that's a hundred percent stuff. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| See the little whitehead up topics. | ||
| But if you're in antibiotics, I think it's twenty four thirty-six hours, you're not contagious anymore. | ||
| It's just gonna drain your fucking cardio. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| How how effective is topical solutions on something like that? | ||
| So you have to take systemic like anti- So I actually just had staff like a month ago. | ||
| Of course you did. | ||
| You've had it a thousand times. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And and I was like, and I actually I use actually use fucking croc to help me cure it without antibiotics. | ||
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Really? | |
| Um so I had it on my back and I put um I put the topical clindamycin pad and there's like liquid clindomycin that you can like just rub on there and then there's a pad. | ||
| So I I douse the pad and clindomycin, and I taped the clindamycin pad to my back, and then I broke one of those heating pads and I put I taped a heating pad to my back because staff once you start getting above body temperature, it doesn't replicate. | ||
| Yeah, like it yeah, it it I think it dies like 140 or 150 degrees somewhere around there. | ||
| Wow sauna. | ||
| But yeah, the problem is that it you have to that's sustained over time. | ||
| Like you can't sit in a hundred and fifty degree sauna for twenty four hours. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| So I kept the heating pad on there and I would just change it like five, six times a day, change the pad, and it went away in like two weeks. | ||
| Took a little bit longer, but I didn't have to take any oral hours. | ||
| How's your stomach? | ||
| And I'm like, wow, I wish I could I wish I knew this ten years ago before I ruined my fucking life. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| Um it is still I haven't been able to do like a hard session since like early twenty twenty four. | ||
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Damn. | |
| I just start dry heaving every time my heart rate goes up. | ||
|
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Fuck. | |
| So I'm just like a skinny fat guy now. | ||
| That's so nice. | ||
| Jesus Christ, dude. | ||
| Have you tried fasting? | ||
| Have you ever tried that? | ||
| I've been forced fasted. | ||
| Like I have just haven't been able to eat for two weeks. | ||
| And like you haven't eaten anything in two weeks or just a little bit. | ||
| Like just nothing. | ||
| I just wasn't able to eat. | ||
| Like just water. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was uh like before I fought Roberto Geminez, I was actually had to go to the hospital because I couldn't drink water or eat for two weeks. | ||
| And I was like in the hospital like three days before. | ||
| You couldn't drink water. | ||
| Uh no, just like two nauseas to get anything, keep anything down there. | ||
| That is so nuts. | ||
| I just like went to the hospital, got an IV, and then like flew to go. | ||
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Can beat. | |
| Alright, here we go. | ||
| What do we got here? | ||
| Sola and McKee. | ||
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You stand. | |
| You gotta get at least one of them a nickname now. | ||
| I feel like we're Yeah. | ||
| That guy. | ||
| Who so McKee is the guy with the tattoos. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Solo's gonna be a big fan favorite. | ||
| Oh, is he? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| They put a bunch of those cats on there. | ||
| So Paris didn't or France didn't even have MMA till recent really fairly recently, right? | ||
| Like ten years ago? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because when Francis was over there, he was no MMA. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You couldn't fight. | ||
| And then finally they got PFL did events in Africa. | ||
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And he didn't show up. | |
| Because he said they didn't use any like regional guys. | ||
| That's why he wouldn't show up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah, he was like, No, you didn't use any of my fucking guys. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| I think there's a chance. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Nice shot. | ||
| I think there's a chance Francis comes back to the UFC now. | ||
| I don't think there is. | ||
| Why do you say that? | ||
| I don't think Dana wants that. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, you know, Dana had a bad experience with him. | ||
| Didn't enjoy working with him. | ||
|
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Oh. | |
| But but do you don't think there's a chance some of the some of the other shot callers there go, dude, we can get him back? | ||
| Him versus John. | ||
| Him versus John. | ||
| At the White House? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You think all the White House. | ||
| John on the White House card? | ||
| I think John does White House. | ||
| Tana goes, they go, What's the chance he has? | ||
| One in a billion. | ||
| Did he really say that? | ||
| I saw that. | ||
| John responded with a great answer. | ||
| He did have a great answer. | ||
| You're saying there's a chance. | ||
| He goes, I'm a one in billion guy. | ||
| That's exactly what I thought when I said when I saw it and I was like, I was like, oh, since there's a chance to do that, there's a chance. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This guy's getting caught. | ||
| Good news is John's most recent case has been dropped. | ||
| Which is excellent. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He wasn't even there apparently. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Okay, I only go with what good what my phone says, all right. | ||
| Oh, I I I think I'm all in I mean I'm always with my phone. | ||
| Listen, I think there should be a place uh I think there should be a place in this country that has no law. | ||
| One city, just one city with no law. | ||
| Just got a Mexico turkey? | ||
| Just maybe a salvage. | ||
| Just one place with no law. | ||
| Just like or maybe like a little gray area in between the state. | ||
| What about the purge? | ||
| Just 24 hours where there's one place where you could just get buck wild. | ||
| Well, you can go down to Tijuana, dude. | ||
| You can just live like go to Mexico. | ||
| I mean, but uh Ed Calderon, I was listening to that podcast. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| That's a crazy podcast. | ||
| That dude has seen it all. | ||
| I I I can't imagine what he's actually seen. | ||
| Thirty-seven assassinations in the last Mexican elections. | ||
| Yeah, but they all dab but the but all but all those politicians, they dabble with the cartel. | ||
| So it's not like. | ||
| Oh no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| They're not dabbling. | ||
| They are all cartel members. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Well, do you see it happening in Germany? | ||
| Yeah, they're all involved. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But seven, seven of the right wing cabinets had just been had just died. | ||
| Yeah, and then I looked into it and they were like, there's no foul play here. | ||
| I'm like, but that's seven. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No foul pay. | ||
| But my thing when you had Ed on, A, I'm never going to Mexico again. | ||
| But B, I mean fucking never fine. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Um, but B, too. | ||
| I sent my wife that 'cause she wants to take the kids to Mexico because she's from there. | ||
| It's never fucking happening. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And I so I sent her that podcast. | ||
| But um when he was like, yeah, Trump's, you know, they have the drones, like kind of following the cartel and all that to get information on like he's gonna s he they're gonna do something to send people in there. | ||
| But when he was saying the cartels like in the government and the police units, they're everywhere. | ||
| It's like, okay, so you're gonna take out the henchmen. | ||
| That does nothing. | ||
| Well, Calderon said you so so my my summarization of that podcast was like, oh, well, Mexico's fucked. | ||
| There's nothing you can do. | ||
| You're never gonna get rid of it. | ||
| It's too ingrained in the community. | ||
| He treated him like a lot of things. | ||
| When you go to Afghanistan, like we're so far separated that it's not really like there's no saving it. | ||
| like the cartel can come up here and fuck with us. | ||
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Correct. | |
| Well Calderon said the only way to deal with it is treat it like it's an insurgency. | ||
| And and you know, when they had that conservative guy in charge, uh they actually they actually did a lot to cripple the cartels. | ||
| But unless you treat it like an actual civil war, where you gotta treat it like this is a real insurgency so much money. | ||
| They can they buy so many politicians, they buy so many people. | ||
| It's so difficult to beat them at this point. | ||
| Because we let it get so bad. | ||
| Too far. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Mexico let it get so bad that there's when you have thirty-seven people get assassinated in one election. | ||
| So hard cycle. | ||
| How's that not a but how's that not on if CNN wants to break some news? | ||
| How's that not on the tracker at all? | ||
| Yeah, you have to hear it from me. | ||
| You have to hear it on the spot. | ||
| Did you hear did you hear this this influencer, this TikTok influencer killed her, her husband and her seven year old and thirteen year old wrapped them in plastic and put them in a in a truck. | ||
| Did you hear about this? | ||
| No. | ||
| This is uh a week ago. | ||
| Yeah, see that's what I'm saying. | ||
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In Mexico. | |
| Yeah, and then the two guys the husband was doing something with that. | ||
| Yeah, and and the two guys that that the cops brought in were witnesses to it, they got kidnapped. | ||
| Jeez, but get out of the prosecutor. | ||
| But didn't that say like ninety-one percent of murders go unsolved? | ||
| Yes, yeah. | ||
| Everything's just a cold case. | ||
| I don't know, dude. | ||
| I think any anyway. | ||
| If you're the nine percent that gets busted. | ||
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You can walk there. | |
| You just walk there. | ||
| You can walk right into chaos. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You can walk there from here. | ||
| You can get there in a day. | ||
| But if you're a tourist, a lot of times they'll leave you alone, right? | ||
| Five hour drive. | ||
| Dude, when I when I was living in uh California, I had my Ford Lightning, and there's a shop down there that makes carbon fiber parts for lightnings. | ||
| I was like, I'll just go pick it up. | ||
| I drove down there, and the guy working the the custom goes, What are you doing? | ||
| What are you doing? | ||
| What do you mean, man? | ||
| I'm here to pick up some car parts. | ||
| He goes, Listen, we knew you were coming because you posted you're coming down here. | ||
| We knew you're coming. | ||
| And we're good, and we're fans, we're good, we're good guys. | ||
| But if we know you're coming, the bad guys know you're coming. | ||
| He's like, Don't come back here, man. | ||
| I'm like, really? | ||
| He's like, Don't come back. | ||
| He's like, You're in a loud orange Ford Lightning, and you're posting you're coming down here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| Worth it. | ||
| Was it? | ||
| Ah, no. | ||
| I mean it's cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's carbon fiber offenders are tough to find. | ||
| Who would run for mayor? | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| From 2018 to mid-2024, 1,79 murders, attacks, and threats were reported against politicians and officials. | ||
| That is crazy. | ||
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Who's gonna run for fucking police 37? | |
| That's yeah, they are some people just see this up here. | ||
| You'd think at 27 the guy'd be like, fuck this, dude. | ||
| Well, Calderon said the people are getting so sick of it. | ||
| I I think ultimately there becomes this. | ||
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What are they gonna do, B? | |
| A revolt. | ||
| The population arms itself. | ||
| Good loot. | ||
| And do what? | ||
| Get shot. | ||
| They're so organized though. | ||
| Yeah, they're they're literally like military weapons. | ||
| They have military weaponry. | ||
| And they have night vision. | ||
| They have armies. | ||
| I mean That's what I'm saying. | ||
| What are you gonna do? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| A revolt and do what? | ||
| Get murdered? | ||
| I think I think you're gonna see more of that what that happened that Venezuelan boat that just got taken out in the middle of the water. | ||
| I was seeing people saying that that wasn't a cartel thing and that what Donald Trump has c committed is a war crime. | ||
| He blew up people from Venezuela for no reason. | ||
| You don't think they know that this this fucking boat filled with taped up satchels. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Maduro, I th I can't believe they that the Justice Department said Maduro where we have a reward for his arrest. | ||
| Fifty million dollars. | ||
| That's they put fifty million dollars on the president's head. | ||
| That's setting something up. | ||
| They're setting something up. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| There must be some gold in them that our hills. | ||
| I yeah, I got a feeling I got a feeling we got some some pretty some badasses kind of already down there. | ||
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Well, probably there's probably also some I mean between Mexico and Canada, it's just a shit show. | |
| Yeah, but Canada's like so much saver. | ||
| Yes, Canada, you have your job, you have your reputation destroyed. | ||
| And in Mexico, they kill your whole family. | ||
| It's kind of a different thing. | ||
| Uh in Canada, one of 20 people in Canada is assisted suicide. | ||
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What? | |
| Yeah, one in twenty. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah, I'll send I'll send it to Jamie so he can post it. | ||
| It is uh so crazy. | ||
| In other news, did you see that uh Roy Jones Jr.? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That was heartwarming. | ||
| It was so amazing. | ||
| The the guy they gave him his gold medal. | ||
| Yeah, because the Korean guy who who got beat. | ||
| I love that. | ||
| It was heartwarming. | ||
| It was really good. | ||
| I got emotional over it. | ||
| Yeah, because there it is. | ||
| Assisted dying now accounts for one in twenty Canada deaths. | ||
| Like what's how that's how depressed they are. | ||
| Well, they're doing it for people that are depressed. | ||
| They're doing it for people, oh, you hurt your knee. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| But I'm not allowed to hike anymore. | ||
| Okay, they killed 15,300 people last year. | ||
| What a shit show. | ||
| What a shit show. | ||
| It was legalized in 2016, but it showed around 15,300 people underwent assisted dying last year. | ||
| Median age is seventy-seven though. | ||
| After being successful in their applications. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The median age is 77. | ||
| I kind of get that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So you can just do it for any reason. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Small minority of other cases, patients may not have been terminally ill, but sought an assisted death due to long and complicated illness that it significantly impact their quality of life. | ||
| Well, you really makes you think like what percentage of people are just suffering where life just fucking blows. | ||
| Probably quite a bit. | ||
| And and are they doing it in those tanks? | ||
| They're doing those like weird spaceship things. | ||
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Have you seen those? | |
| They look pretty nice. | ||
| You could get assisted suicide in Oregon. | ||
| But how are they putting him down? | ||
| Do we know? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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Like an IV or is it gas or there's a place in Sweden, I watched a documentary on it. | |
| He kind of just jumped in this little like alien ship looking thing and just game over. | ||
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Cook you're gonna do. | |
| He had his last meal with his wife, and I was like, all right, see on the other side and just B, you and I were talking about suicide one time, and I was like, I can't understand how anybody would do it. | ||
| And a guy who I'd get would come to my shows periodically, and he'd give me like he made knives and stuff. | ||
| And he he emailed me and he goes, um just so you know, I'll give you an idea of what it's like when you contemplate suicide. | ||
| I was like, okay, and he goes, You ever if you have you ever been in a Hasana and you can't stand another second you gotta get out because it's just too hot? | ||
| Think of being that with no doors all the time. | ||
| For your whole life. | ||
| Yeah, and I was like, holy fucking. | ||
| And did he do it or no? | ||
| He tried twice, I guess. | ||
| Now he's better. | ||
| Well, think about the kind of pain that Bisping must have been in because of his neck. | ||
| You know? | ||
| But Bisbing's a guy, but you he didn't even consider it. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| There's a difference. | ||
| No, he's probably trying to line up a fight. | ||
| Think about Gordon. | ||
| Think of the shit he deals with. | ||
| If anyone still winning. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Being C sick 24 7. | ||
| I can't understand how no one can figure out how to fix what's wrong. | ||
| Well, they I mean the issue is that they know what the issue are, but what the issues is, and they're just like, we're gonna try to reset your gut biome. | ||
| I'm like, sweet. | ||
| What's like the like agreed upon baseline homeostasis for like what your gut biome's supposed to be? | ||
| They're like, we don't know. | ||
| There is it's different for every person. | ||
| So it's just eat nothing but kimchi for a year and see what's up. | ||
| I could do that, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or I could just kill myself. | ||
| Don't do that. | ||
| Gut biome. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's like a fief ganoon, and he's got that clinic. | ||
| Because everybody always wondered, like, what happens if you take antibiotics too much? | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Well now we know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Remember my psoriasis. | ||
| You remember seeing how covered I was? | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| And then Andy Galpin and Dan Garner gave me a big thing. | ||
| Why are you laughing? | ||
| You're such a piece of shit. | ||
| But I can't. | ||
| I just started laughing. | ||
|
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I know. | |
| It's like when who is it? | ||
| Bobby Late was like, I was brutally meleced. | ||
| Yeah, I just started fucking crying. | ||
| Died by a down syndrome guy. | ||
| He starts laughing. | ||
| That's such a brand new thing. | ||
| No, because probably Bobby goes, Alright, I'm gonna say this again. | ||
| If you if you guys laugh, and he goes, Yeah, worse than that. | ||
| It was brutally molested. | ||
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I'm like, dude, you don't say brutally, dude. | |
| It's like Bobby might have been making that story up. | ||
|
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He was, because he was like every time I was laughing, because every time we got worse and worse and worse. | |
| Bobby's one of the funniest people ever. | ||
| He's funny as fuck. | ||
| He's one of the funniest people ever. | ||
| Very funny. | ||
| I miss him. | ||
| So Santino, man. | ||
| Well, Bobby not talk to you anymore. | ||
| No, we tax it. | ||
| But I missed him. | ||
| No, no, but I'm not sure. | ||
| We don't tax like on a regular basis. | ||
| No, I said we we made up though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He had said he told somebody to say hi to me. | ||
| And then I said, hey, uh, you know, I heard and I said, he goes, How are you? | ||
| I go, I'm I'm good and eternally sorry. | ||
| And he goes, We're good. | ||
| And uh yeah, that's cool. | ||
| Is he at the mothership? | ||
| That's a good fight. | ||
| Lopez, Diego Lopez, DeBron Silva. | ||
| That's next weekend. | ||
| Does Bobby come to the mothership much? | ||
| Uh he's been there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he comes when he's in town. | ||
| I tried to get him to move here. | ||
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I'm never moving to Austin. | |
| But uh when he was here, he met some nice ladies. | ||
| Tim Tim Dylan's take on Austin's hilarious. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| He's like, there's like two good restaurants. | ||
| I've been to him multiple times. | ||
| There's no live music scene. | ||
| Six buskers on heroin. | ||
| He's here all the time. | ||
| He was here last week, he's gonna be here again this week. | ||
| Yeah, he's the best. | ||
| He owns two houses here. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| He's just nuts. | ||
| Yeah, he's very funny. | ||
| He's just being silly. | ||
| so funny. | ||
| And then they write articles on it. | ||
| His take. | ||
| It's really funny is that that it became like a whole thing, like the the movements leaving Austin. | ||
| They this the shine has worn off. | ||
| It quoted me, Shane Gillis, and uh and Tim Dylan saying how much we hated Austin. | ||
| I just said I miss the baseball dads in LA. | ||
| That's all I said, man. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| I love it here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I I used to miss the comedy store until I opened the mothership. | ||
| That was all I missed. | ||
| I love everything else about Austin. | ||
| I have no problem, sir. | ||
| I'd like them to clean up some of that homeless shit, though. | ||
| Compared to LA. | ||
| Yeah, that's pretty bad on six. | ||
| Where is first of all, what are you doing on six? | ||
| Other than go to the club and get out of the club. | ||
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I do. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Don't I go to dead rabbit? | ||
| I'll go to the dead rabbit sometimes. | ||
| That's the problem, right? | ||
| Which is so nuts. | ||
| You get some people that are homeless, right? | ||
| Trying to get clean, and where do you put their shelter? | ||
| A block away from the biggest party fucking street in all of Texas. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's so dumb. | ||
| I'll be honest, I've I haven't seen because I'm not I haven't been down to six at all. | ||
| I haven't seen a single homeless person in the city. | ||
| Well, this very concentrated centrally located. | ||
| Yeah, it's all six street and I'm in like I'm like a weird bubble where it's like Pleasantville. | ||
| It's just there's no danger, and I don't like it. | ||
| Look at this, look at this, look at this. | ||
| This is a matter of time. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Herb Dean, seen enough. | ||
| Yeah, that guy, that guy was just he was just happy. | ||
| I th I I feel like this can't even be real, but it it it might be. | ||
| Did you see they just uh opened a uh sixty-five million dollar transgender homeless shelter in New York? | ||
| What does that mean? | ||
| How many homeless fantastic? | ||
| How many homeless people are transgender? | ||
| I saw, I saw it. | ||
| Uh we could think it fact. | ||
| There's three people in there. | ||
| But well, Mom Donnie is saying that he wants to set it up where people can go there and get snipped for free. | ||
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Yeah, I know. | |
| He's gonna win, huh? | ||
| Hopefully. | ||
| Yeah, to watch to watch in New York try to experiment with a socialist again. | ||
| I heard an interesting, I heard an interesting take yesterday. | ||
| Where apparently a lot of the rather than a lot of the super rich people in New York actually want them to win, so they're like, Yeah, go ahead, fucking we're not gonna be affected. | ||
| Yeah, you guys fucking see how it goes. | ||
| Progressive political theater. | ||
| That is adorable. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| 150 beds for trans and gender non-conforming individuals, nowhere to sleep. | ||
| Those are expensive beds. | ||
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Wow. | |
| That is really wild. | ||
| Nations first. | ||
| What is gender nonconforming? | ||
| Do you get to choose if you're gender non-conforming? | ||
| What if I just decide I'm gender non-conforming? | ||
| I think all I have to do is just say it. | ||
| Yeah, you can't just say I'm gender non-conforming. | ||
| The okay. | ||
| Well, that's what's new about that transgender movement. | ||
| It's rooted in what? | ||
| A feeling. | ||
| It's not really so you can be a minority and a minority on the same level or even bigger than a black man, ask Dave Chappelle, because you feel like one. | ||
| You know what's weird though. | ||
| Have your your daughters are older. | ||
| Have your kids asked you like when that transgender shooter, the just uh was that last week? | ||
| The mass shooter. | ||
| Yeah, I'm saying this last one it was all over the news. | ||
| We had the news on when my kids asked me about it. | ||
| Because kids kind of have a uh better understanding. | ||
| Meaning what I mean it's very black and white. | ||
| Where they're like, wait, Dad, he's uh or she's a girl. | ||
| I go, no, that's a guy. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's like, but she thought she was a girl. | ||
| I'm like, she felt like it, but she's a man. | ||
| He's like, oh, that makes sense. | ||
| There's no kids. | ||
| In the manifesto, this guy said that he regrets going trans and he doesn't want to chop his hair off, even though he hates his hair. | ||
| He doesn't want to chop it off because he'd be like giving in to all the people that said he wasn't really a woman in the first place, but he regrets ever doing it in the first place. | ||
| Here's my here's my take on it. | ||
| It's not about transgender people being more violent, it has nothing to do with that. | ||
| There are people that are completely out of their minds. | ||
| And one of the manifestations of that is to decide that you're a different gender. | ||
| Gender just right. | ||
| So what happens is, but now when you stigmatize that, when you say you're not even allowed to talk to somebody about it, maybe they might be a little confused because that's considered conversion therapy. | ||
| What happens is you're now lumping those two things in. | ||
| Wait, what do you mean? | ||
| So in other words, this kid was obviously... | ||
| No one is not allowed to talk to someone about being confused about their gender. | ||
| They're saying you don't have to tell your parents. | ||
| No. | ||
| So there are there are there there was in California there was legislation presented in a number of states which said when a child says I feel like a girl, but I'm a boy, and a psychiatrist decide tries to treat that as an abnormality or a mental illness or a confusion. | ||
| You're saying you can't question it. | ||
| You can lose your license. | ||
| Yes, you can lose your license. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because Miriam Grossman, I had her on... | ||
| She wrote transnation, I think. | ||
| And and that can be considered um malpractice and you can get sued and lose your yeah. | ||
| So then the real problem is the psychiatric drugs, because they're all right. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| And what I'm saying is that if you might have a kid who's profoundly disturbed in a in a in a number of ways. | ||
| One of the manifestations of that is saying, I'm now a girl. | ||
| Right or whatever it is. | ||
| That should be a signal, maybe, many times that your kid is not well. | ||
| And you and let's take a look at what the fuck is going on. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But if you say that, then you're anti-transhill. | ||
| Of course, that's what I that's what goes back to what I'm saying. | ||
| And how many mass shooters have we had? | ||
| Clearly, there's a fucking issue, man. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's an issue. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Doesn't mean all trans people are bad, but these mass shooters that we gotta figure it out. | ||
| Can't keep going down this road. | ||
| I'm getting in touch with my feminines. | ||
| I'd say we just keep going down this road. | ||
| We don't have a choice. | ||
| As long as we disarm them all. | ||
| This is what they're gonna do. | ||
| I can't wait to disarm them. | ||
| I can't wait to see the left defend gun club. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm gonna open up a transgender gun club in Austin. | ||
| Well, fuck it. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| The left will never oppose me. | ||
| If I just like I say, well, I'm gonna open up a gun club only for transgender and non-binary conforming people, whatever. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| Gender non-conformity. | ||
| Have you tried to have any of the really far left professors on your podcast? | ||
| No. | ||
| I've had them in the past. | ||
| Have you? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How's that go? | ||
| Not so good. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Thaddeus Russell, I had a very long and stupid conversation with him about the difference between men and women. | ||
| There's no difference. | ||
| And I'm like, so if you get a boy puppy, if you get a puppy and it's a boy puppy and you wanted a girl puppy, and they say, Well, there's no difference. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What the fuck are you talking about? | ||
| Like this is the dumbest conversation ever. | ||
| But at least Thaddeus is a guy who'll have the debate. | ||
| Most of the left won't even talk about that. | ||
| Yeah, but it's not a good one. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| It's nonsense. | ||
| You talk in circles. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like I thought we were on the same page. | ||
| I was like, no. | ||
| Way off. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| You're saying nonsense. | ||
| And does he have kids? | ||
| I don't think he does. | ||
| I'm not sure. | ||
| I shouldn't say that. | ||
| I have no idea. | ||
| But the the bottom line is biology is really simple. | ||
| Double X, XY. | ||
| Sometimes there's a mistake. | ||
| Sometimes there's an error and you get X XY. | ||
| Sometimes you get hermaphrodites and and there's that that is a real thing. | ||
| There's over. | ||
| But it's super fucking rare. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| What this is is a social contagion. | ||
| And Abigail Schreier wrote a fantastic book about it called Irreversible Damage that she highlights how they're happening in these clusters of a lot of girls who are autistic. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And let's get to the bottom. | ||
| It's like anorexic. | ||
| What's causing all that? | ||
| How come one in every 12 kids who's a boy in California has autism now? | ||
| Because that's what's going on. | ||
| That's what's going on in California, which has one of the strictest fucking vaccine policies. | ||
| One in twelve. | ||
| Did I say vaccines cause autism? | ||
| Maybe I will have a job. | ||
| Well, RFK is getting to that, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And now Florida doesn't demand vaccines for kids. | ||
| That's dangerous to me. | ||
| I knew you'd jump on that drink. | ||
| Of course it's dangerous, Brian. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| All vaccines. | ||
| You need to bail on the tetanus thing. | ||
| Because Suzanne Humphreys as Suzanne Humphreys explained tetanus. | ||
| What are you talking about? | ||
| So you're saying we should be able to do that. | ||
| She's a medical doctor that absolutely understands tetan. | ||
| She said tetanus, all you have to do is keep the wound open and clean it. | ||
| Oh, that's a good thing. | ||
| It's not bullshit. | ||
| It's not bullshit. | ||
| Do you know what people die of tetanus every year? | ||
| What about possibly? | ||
| So let me ask you a question, Mr. Joe Rogan, Mr. Science. | ||
| I say, are you saying don't do that? | ||
| Don't call me Mr. Scientist. | ||
| I'll start mocking you, and it's so much easier to do. | ||
| So are we are we not so you don't believe in vaccines? | ||
| You don't think we should have vaccines? | ||
| It's not that I don't believe in vaccines. | ||
| Different subject. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| MMA vi vaccine is absolutely connected to a host of serious, debilitating fucking problems that kids have gotten from them. | ||
| There's a lot of problems because they don't test vaccines in a double-blind placebo controlled setting. | ||
| They test them against other vaccines. | ||
| You know that, right? | ||
| Yes, I do. | ||
| Excuse me. | ||
| Let me just say something. | ||
| Yes, you're right. | ||
| You can make the argument for HEP B. Here's why. | ||
| Because the chances of a of a child coming in contact with the kind of activity that causes HEP B is different. | ||
| So that's the same thing. | ||
| So now you say this. | ||
| You say this. | ||
| That chance is zero. | ||
| The chance for vaccine injury with the HEP V B is not zero. | ||
| It's non-zero. | ||
| Okay, so I understand that math. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| What I'm trying to say to you is that there are certain diseases. | ||
| Pick up a history book. | ||
| Smallpox. | ||
| Diphtheria. | ||
| Mumps. | ||
| Have you ever looked at Tetanus polio paralytic disease? | ||
| Have you ever polio? | ||
| Please stop. | ||
| No, I don't. | ||
| I won't. | ||
| I know you think it's just I dreadful. | ||
| This is a long conversation that we're not going to have on this podcast because I'm going to get angry because I've I've researched this for years. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But you're not a scientist. | ||
| I don't have to be a scientist to know this. | ||
| Yes, you do. | ||
| No, Brian, shut the fuck up. | ||
| I don't have to be a scientist to leave read research to understand that they were spraying DDT all over the fucking country when everybody was getting polio. | ||
| Do you know that? | ||
| You know the first essence. | ||
| They happened in rural communities where they're all farmland and agriculture, and then cows were getting them and horses were getting them and dogs are getting them. | ||
| Let me make a statement. | ||
| They're calling it paralytic polio. | ||
| Do you agree with the following statement? | ||
| It's not just with you, but it's not just about it. | ||
| Joe. | ||
| No, Brian, I don't want to do this with the bigger. | ||
| But it's not just about a fight companion. | ||
| It's annoying. | ||
| All right. | ||
| But it's like a big thing. | ||
| So anti-vax. | ||
| No, let's anti-vax bonds. | ||
| Anti-vaxx. | ||
| Questioning why there's so many, though. | ||
| My kids are all vaccinated. | ||
| And they're vaccinated, but they went on a delayed schedule. | ||
| They did a schedule. | ||
| So did mine. | ||
| So did mine. | ||
| You're not? | ||
| No. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Good for you. | ||
| I don't think you need to. | ||
| No, they're healthy as fuck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Between the two of them, they have 12 touchdowns this week. | ||
| Two home runs. | ||
| I think the problem is that the pharmaceutical drug companies have an exemption because of what they did in the 1980s with Reagan, where they allowed them to never worry about being sued. | ||
| And that's when they ramped up the fucking schedule. | ||
| And that's also the correlation. | ||
| When you look at all the fucking host of all sorts of diseases and issues you just want to do that. | ||
| Just look at autism. | ||
| It's through the city. | ||
| Autism is just one. | ||
| There's a lot of other autoimmune issues. | ||
| There's a lot of there's a lot of like serious problems. | ||
| I think there are three things that have pushed our us beyond our biology and the reason we don't have a lot of children dying. | ||
| In uh nutrition, sanitation, and vaccines. | ||
| And I think anybody who says otherwise is you know, I think it's crazy. | ||
| But you can't say all vaccines be. | ||
| I didn't say all vaccines. | ||
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But he's not saying very worried when people say all vaccines. | |
| It sounds like he is. | ||
| Brian, you don't know what the fuck I'm saying. | ||
| You don't. | ||
| Well, I know because you're you don't want to talk about it. | ||
| Brad, I don't want to talk about it in the middle of a podcast because it'll completely derail the podcast. | ||
| And I'll start showing you statistics. | ||
| If you look at when people stopped getting all of these diseases, and then when the introduction of vaccines happened, it's at the end, after the disease has already gone through the population. | ||
| Most of those diseases were eradicated by sanitation and nutrition. | ||
| There was a huge problem in this country. | ||
| People were living in fucking squalor. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| But there's still pathogens that are very dangerous. | ||
| Sure, there are. | ||
| So the problem is that these pharmaceutical drug companies are fucking insanely entirely corrupt. | ||
| They have been corrupt for a long fucking time, and there's a revolving door between the FDA and these pharmaceutical drug corporations. | ||
| They go from the FDA into these positions where they have this golden parachute, and then they ramp up the fucking schedule every year, and it's not about public health. | ||
| None of it is about looking out for you. | ||
| All of it is about making money. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| Who wants to do some smelling salt? | ||
| Okai's good. | ||
| Who wants to do some smell insult? | ||
| Chuck one over here, Jamie. | ||
| We got some? | ||
| Where's Oki from? | ||
| From your mother's pussy. | ||
| Hey, that's outline. | ||
| Hey, that fucking that burn is too far. | ||
| Joe and I always have these arguments, Gordon. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| This one's weak. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a little old. | ||
| Oof. | ||
| It's a little old. | ||
| Get you going, though. | ||
| What are they like? | ||
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We got a seven of them over here. | |
| God, get you some, Brian. | ||
| Get that big fucking dicknose. | ||
| Besides to watch your friends suffer. | ||
| What are the actual I don't know, let's find out. | ||
| Pop one of those, see if it cures your tummy. | ||
| It wakes you up. | ||
| It might help your stomach. | ||
| Or it could make me nauseous. | ||
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I'll say. | |
| Yeah, if he fucking projectile bottoms on the Buddha. | ||
| Great. | ||
| Don't do it, Paul Gordon. | ||
| You might throw up. | ||
| That's good for you. | ||
| This one's basically dead. | ||
| What is it actually supposed to do, though? | ||
| It just jolts your system and like. | ||
| He's got like a kid around every place I go. | ||
| He goes to the green room, he's got like 30 bottles. | ||
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I love him. | |
| I get everybody addicted to the green room. | ||
| Once you gave me it, I was like, I want more of that shit. | ||
| Once I do it once, I want to do it, I want to keep doing it. | ||
| Yeah, it'll wake you up. | ||
| Guys are doing it before they lift super heavy. | ||
| Go for it. | ||
| I know that. | ||
| PRs. | ||
| I need spikes right now. | ||
| Just a party. | ||
| Hey, just to get away from the vaccines before he's broken. | ||
| I brought it up. | ||
| Oh, something you right after right after he sniffed it. | ||
| Brian was gonna bring vaccines back up. | ||
| Don't join him on a dude. | ||
| Joe and I used to have arguments about acting class. | ||
| We'd get in shouting fights. | ||
| He used to tell me that vitamins weren't necessary. | ||
| Oh yeah, yeah. | ||
| Vitamins aren't necessary. | ||
| He's taking fucking vitamins. | ||
| I think it's not work. | ||
| They don't do anything. | ||
| This is me and him at a fucking restaurant in Seattle. | ||
| Brian, please shut the fuck up. | ||
| Yeah, but then I started taking vitamins and I called him up and I go, dude, I feel great. | ||
| He goes, fucking I know. | ||
| I wish you could go back in time and not take vaccines. | ||
| Because why am I so healthy? | ||
| I never got a psoriasis. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Hey, shut up. | ||
| Turns out I had autism the whole time. | ||
| No. | ||
| Dude, we've been in Austin for how many months now I've been trying to give him a ways to whale for how long finally filled. | ||
| I got my levels passed in. | ||
| The best. | ||
| So I just got my levels test by with Brigham. | ||
| It was awesome. | ||
| And I got stem cells. | ||
|
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Nice. | |
| So check this out. | ||
| I got I go, I I'd worked out at uh Arctype. | ||
| This is Marvin Vittori's brother. | ||
| Is it? | ||
| They look very similar. | ||
| I worked out. | ||
| I meant to call you about this. | ||
| So I I work out and I kind of forgot I had to go. | ||
| So I I probably shouldn't have worked out. | ||
| Didn't sleep much, but my test is is lowest it's ever been, which is 785, not bad for my good. | ||
| Not bad, right? | ||
| That's very good. | ||
| Now my free though is low. | ||
| It's like 45. | ||
| And she said it should be 151. | ||
| But then I did a bunch of research on chat GPT with PubMed, and I looked at I talked to a couple of other doctors, and they said, if your test is that high, because I have a lot of energy, they go, just be careful because you gotta test it again. | ||
| So she at Waste Well, they go, We don't want to put you on anything yet, because we want to test because your your magnesium is a little low and your DHEA or whatever it is. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| So they're gonna put me on that because they're my test is really high. | ||
| Yeah, just take TRT again. | ||
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Oh, hold on. | |
| No, no, no, he's right. | ||
| Yeah, magnesium is huge. | ||
| You have low magnesium, that's huge. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And I talked about the Mike Isratel, who who gave me the, he told me, I said, if I wanted to get huge, give me the steroids. | ||
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Not possible. | |
| And he goes, Do you want do you know you don't mind if your liver becomes styrofoam? | ||
| I go, just fucking hit me with it. | ||
| He gave me the stack. | ||
| I saw that coming. | ||
| Oh, dude, it's great. | ||
| Yeah, he's a freak. | ||
| He's amazing. | ||
| What is he talking about? | ||
| DECA and all that stuff. | ||
| He's got his PhD. | ||
| He's telling you to take DECA and everything. | ||
| Well, and also he's on everything. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Have you had him on? | ||
| He's hilarious. | ||
| Oh, I love that guy. | ||
| Here we go. | ||
| Uh shit. | ||
| I think the comment events next. | ||
| Okie and Jones. | ||
| Is the come next? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| That's the one I'm looking for. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| Roofy and Benwala. | ||
| If you had the gun to your head, who do you have? | ||
| Emma Vov or um Bahalo. | ||
| Imavic. | ||
| It's uh this is Bahalio's toughest fight, I think. | ||
| In the UFC. | ||
| Imovat's has a better strength of schedule too. | ||
| I usually go by that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he's definitely faced a tougher competition. | ||
| He's coming off of a KO of one of the all-time greats. | ||
| I don't think either one gets a few. | ||
| Oh, he just fucking popped it up. | ||
| Oh damn. | ||
| Oh, please end fast. | ||
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I don't think uh he's getting dinged. | |
| He's getting dinged. | ||
| Tough though. | ||
| There we go. | ||
| Well, he's moving. | ||
| He's definitely moving, but he keeps getting popped on the chin. | ||
| I don't think the winner of Imavov in this um fight, uh Hamsat. | ||
| No. | ||
| I think the winner of Fluffy and RDR fight. | ||
| Because that I think that's more like you end in a finish. | ||
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They didn't get going these guys. | |
| He's got a fucking chin, I'll tell you that. | ||
| Because this dude gets keeps getting cracked. | ||
| And Oki can crack yikes. | ||
| And he's throwing haymakers at him. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think um looking like a young Kevin Randall, man. | ||
| Bahalo's um his his defense is really good striking wise. | ||
| Well, he's really good all around. | ||
| That team, that fighting nerds team is so crushing it. | ||
| Are they so good? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're so good. | ||
| Where are they out of? | ||
| Brazil. | ||
| Brazil. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, there that's uh Jean Silva, that's Carlos Pratez, Mauricio Rufi, Baralio. | ||
| Now Mikhail Oleg Sejuk, he's over there with them now. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Came over from Poland. | ||
| He's like, fuck it, let's go. | ||
| I feel like those poles and stuff, those Russians have such good fundamentals in defense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like when when Jan Bohovich used to fucking go shin to shin with people. | ||
| Yeah, Magamanoff was just fucking limping all over the place. | ||
| Like, what the fuck are you doing? | ||
| Just going shin to shin with him. | ||
| Crack. | ||
| He's such a dense dude. | ||
| My shins are like fucking touch him. | ||
| You flip him on the back. | ||
| It's vaccines. | ||
| It's all those right. | ||
| I got bird bones. | ||
| I would have been a great fighter if I didn't have bird bones. | ||
| See, I'd like to see DDP at light heavy. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think you'd fuck some dudes up. | ||
| Don't you think they would out wrestle him there? | ||
| The problem with that guy is now after what Hamzad did to him, everyone's going to out wrestle him. | ||
| The word's out. | ||
| If you give him the right matchups, then when if he got the ink line, the thing is though, most guys are not at Hamzat's level. | ||
| Most people aren't as good at at keeping at riding. | ||
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Oh my gosh. | |
| It's turned around. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
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Oh boy, it's no, he doesn't have it under. | |
| Um he's laying down. | ||
| I'll tell you what, too. | ||
| I was in the back. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| This guy's got tired. | ||
| I mean, you gotta think of how much energy he blew. | ||
| Pretty good at riding chest to chest, and he's much better than most and pretty much everyone at riding chest to back. | ||
| Dude, I went to Hamzat's camp, and I didn't want to be biased. | ||
| I called Joe when I left. | ||
| I went, dude, I've never seen anyone look like that. | ||
| And I was like, I've been out of the game a little bit. | ||
| Last person I saw that dominant in camp was John. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| I'm talking national champion wrestlers, all American wrestlers, world-class jujutsu guys. | ||
| He was fucking them up. | ||
| And was kind of going light, and then the coach yelled something and whatever chest chain, and he just fucking mopped the floor with everybody. | ||
| Back to back to back. | ||
| Do you think that Bo Nickel has taken a little uh page from that that whole game, which is I'm gonna just blast W or grab. | ||
| We're gonna find out. | ||
| They just announced the bigger. | ||
| Yeah, but what do you do with Renee? | ||
| It's different, though. | ||
| Yeah, when he fought Reiner DeRitter, first of all, what do you do? | ||
| You're gonna get him to the ground, and then what happens? | ||
| You're gonna get strangled. | ||
| Like the Ritter's way better on with Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
| Way better with Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| And what if he reverses you and gets you on your back? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, like so he didn't want that. | ||
| Also, Deritter is way. | ||
| So that's why he didn't. | ||
| Deritter's 6'4, and he's a giant 185. | ||
| Giant. | ||
| He's big. | ||
| Bo Nickel can fight one tomorrow. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| He let it go. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| These guys are exhausted. | ||
| This was a crazy first round. | ||
| Yeah, it was. | ||
| But now that this guy weathered the storm, what a fucking chin, Jones. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| What a chin. | ||
| Because this dude takes some bombs. | ||
| Other dudes. | ||
| He's gonna be gassed. | ||
| Is everybody gonna move into a crucifix now, too, after that fucking DDP fight? | ||
| How many times did he get him in a crucifix? | ||
| Last time you saw that was I think it's like a full five minutes he had him control. | ||
| Bananas. | ||
| But wasn't doing too much damage there. | ||
| No, but I thought I still think it's a mistake where people are like, oh, the Hamzat's style's boring. | ||
| It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa. | ||
| That's how he fought DDP. | ||
| These next guys, like, he's a finisher, man. | ||
| He's a fucking savage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, he wanted to win. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's got a Kimora. | ||
| But also, but I'm to your point, Joe. | ||
| He wanted to win. | ||
| It's also his first time. | ||
| And I know it's Hamzad, and he's this big, there's all this hype. | ||
| Remember, it's his first chance at a title. | ||
| You're fighting DDP. | ||
| You don't want to risk it on your feet. | ||
| But he even went in the corner with Shrookin was in his corner. | ||
| He goes, I want to stand. | ||
| Srugan goes, absolutely not. | ||
| Keep doing what you're doing. | ||
| We have it in the back. | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| He's like, keep doing what you're doing. | ||
| I let the box, I want the king. | ||
| He also, he also learned a valuable lesson because if you look at his fights in the past, like the big the big question was was cardio. | ||
| Was will will he will he fade in the fourth and fifth? | ||
| Whereas D D P just never. | ||
| See, I don't think that got answered. | ||
| Because if I if you did a UFC fight and you were just on top the whole time doing jujitsu, I don't find out much about that because that that's what you do. | ||
| But he learned an important lesson from it that if if you can ride the guy and make him carry body weight for the full amount, full time of the match, doesn't matter how good the cardio is. | ||
| There's such a discrepancy in work rate that even if his even if his VOT max is much higher than yours, he's gonna get fast tired significantly fast. | ||
| So he he learned a tactical uh lesson where he just basically just recreated what Khabib does. | ||
| Yeah, like with Gilbert, he was just striking the whole time, and you saw he started to get it. | ||
| But also, Gilbert has a guard. | ||
| Yeah, Gilbert has a very dangerous guard, and I think that was part of the problem. | ||
| And he was compromised at 170, I think. | ||
| He's so big. | ||
| How he got to 70, I'm like, what? | ||
| Yeah, I think you're right. | ||
| Compromised at 170. | ||
| That weight cut was brutal. | ||
| He's a legit 6'2, isn't he? | ||
| He's big And he's strong as shit, man. | ||
| Which is really crazy that he got himself to 170 and still maintain any strength. | ||
| That wrestling strength. | ||
| Christ. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know who's gonna beat him at 85. | ||
| Bro, Oki is tie erred. | ||
| Well, Chelsea famously said that once. | ||
| If you go for a finish and you do not get it, you won't win a decision. | ||
| It's not always. | ||
| It's not always the case. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| But it's a very it's a very astute quote. | ||
| Yeah, you lo you'd use all your adrenaline. | ||
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Oof. | |
| Getting tossed. | ||
| We just think of jail in those matches with the two. | ||
| I heard that was buggy chokes. | ||
| I heard that was a kind of exhibition, though. | ||
| They look fake. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Looked like it work. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They looked it looked fake. | ||
| Yeah, I believe it was fake. | ||
| Um I think it would happen anyway. | ||
| Perhaps against the case. | ||
| I mean, they I mean I knew they tapped him once before in a real match. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They had a match at A C C and uh. | ||
| Chail also took it on like a day notice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's how that should go. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm sure he was in mid camp anyway. | ||
| Gordon, have you ever rolled with any of those high level Russian wrestlers or taggies? | ||
| Uh no. | ||
| I mean, there's some Sambo guys, like uh we had like a couple of smaller guys that used to train out of Ricardo, Ricardo Almado's camp. | ||
| Um, but like none of the big guys, no. | ||
| Um it was really I was listening to you talk about the importance of watching studying the minutiae like tape, like sitting there and watching like almost the way a football player watches tape. | ||
| Nobody does that, huh? | ||
| They do. | ||
| They do. | ||
| I'm saying with jujitsu. | ||
| Uh they do, but most people just don't know what to look for. | ||
| They they Oh, nice spinning elbow. | ||
| Yeah, you just break it down. | ||
| They look they look like they look for the wrong things or just surface level things most of the time. | ||
| Like Sarukian and uh Hamza would watch hours of tape. | ||
| Really? | ||
| And if they and they'd watch it with with no commentary, and they'd watch hours and hours to pick up tendencies from the guy, and if the guy only did it once, they'd watch like five of his fights. | ||
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Really? | |
| If he only did a move once, it's on his replica. | ||
| So they're watching tape all the time. | ||
| All pros are big. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| At this level, yeah, you don't make this level just. | ||
| But if you'd if you'd look at the wrestling that the Dagastani guys do in fighting, there's no real place to study that wrestling. | ||
| You have to create your own system because it's not jujitsu. | ||
| It's not wrestling. | ||
| Like if you look at freestyle wrestlers, freestyle wrestlers historically in the UFC don't hold anybody down. | ||
| Like they you they they take the take downs are scored by the actual takedowns in freestyle wrestling. | ||
| Yeah, I always I always wondered why um But that's a good point. | ||
| Not not control. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| The takedown and when we were fighting means nothing. | ||
| It's the control that actually scores. | ||
| Like, can you hold the guy down and actually keep him down and do damage? | ||
| That's why the daggies are dominant. | ||
| Is that why Yuel Romero never used his wrestling? | ||
| Because he was so bad. | ||
| I think that was a cardio issue. | ||
| Yeah, really? | ||
| Well, he's he would he would put guys down, but he wouldn't hold them down. | ||
| Yeah, no. | ||
| Like like when Kabib and Hamzad put guys down. | ||
| Oh, Jones is fucking Okie up. | ||
| Or George put put a guy down, like he would keep he they keep him down. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Okie's in real trouble. | ||
| And you know, George did a better job at punishing guys as they got up. | ||
| Oh, these elbows, Hamza and Khabib do a better job of oh my god. | ||
| Of controlling. | ||
| Of controlling and making them carry body weight control and then getting up. | ||
| So Jones has some fucking cardio, man, because this is a crazy insane. | ||
| And they're in the middle of the second, he's just smashing. | ||
| They're about to stop it. | ||
| They're about to stop it. | ||
| Oh my god, he's gonna go out. | ||
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There we go. | |
| He's gonna go out. | ||
| Co-main event, baby, come in hot. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| What a comeback. | ||
| Paul Craig's fighting first. | ||
| Oh, Paul Craig. | ||
| That's my favorite guy to watch when he's on his back. | ||
| Yeah, he's good. | ||
| Because Paul Paul Craig can pull some shit off. | ||
| He's one of the rare guys. | ||
| Yeah, he loses. | ||
| But he just re the UFC just resigned him. | ||
| Oh, he's fighting Modestus Bokaucus. | ||
| Look, he's fun to watch. | ||
| I like him at uh light heavyweight too. | ||
| When he got down the middleweight, I was like, boy, how hard is that? | ||
| You're so big. | ||
| Are there any Americans left in the streets? | ||
| There's no Americans. | ||
| There's no American champions in here. | ||
| Right? | ||
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Right. | |
| Taylor Harson. | ||
| Oh, Kale Hair County. | ||
| She's the only one. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Is she gonna fight uh Nunes at 45 at the white house? | ||
| 35? | ||
| 35. | ||
| Make it 45 for her. | ||
| I mean, I that's just painful. | ||
| She made 35 to win the title. | ||
| That's the champ. | ||
| She's the champ at 35. | ||
| That fights out the White House. | ||
| She was at the White House yesterday, I think. | ||
| How did she suck that? | ||
| It is kind of crazy that Amanda Nunes has been the 45 pound champion and then they just abandoned the weight class. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because there's like three big bitches. | ||
| And she was running through them. | ||
| You know, like 45. | ||
| Yeah, I saw Kayla at one of the UFCs and just like when she was probably one seventy-five. | ||
| I mean it's obscene. | ||
| She's she's thick. | ||
| She looks like Glace and T Bell. | ||
| She's incredible. | ||
| She's just incredible. | ||
| She's like just incredible, like just you know, a body like that. | ||
| I'm too light in the ass, but you know, I appreciate it. | ||
| Yeah, would you like her to grab you and throw you around a little bit? | ||
| If she only had a huge car. | ||
| She'd stuff in my mouth against my will. | ||
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If she only had a beard in the car, she's my time, she'd be more than the car. | |
| One of them, one of them beards like Gordon Ryan type special operator beards. | ||
| No, I think she's I think yeah, she's pretty girl. | ||
| She's and you're talking about the greatest judoka ever out of America. | ||
| And you wanna get Yen Genjek when she's uh she's I thought she was very hot. | ||
| You don't see her when she's all skinny and stuff. | ||
| I saw her at the UFC in a dress. | ||
| She looks a lot better now. | ||
| Jesus, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, she's starving herself to make that weight her whole life. | ||
| She was great, great fighter. | ||
| But uh Kayla Harrison's most supposedly that's the she's gonna find it in the White House card. | ||
| Valentina Shevchenko is uh I find her very attractive. | ||
| Cool. | ||
| I'm gonna share that with you guys. | ||
| You like how she got a gun tattooed on her hip. | ||
| I did this favor. | ||
| Yes, I do. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Yes, I do. | ||
| It's very good. | ||
| She's a real kind black woman. | ||
| You would take kinda out of that sentence. | ||
| She's the real life black widow, like the lady from the Avengers. | ||
| Fuck yeah, shoots guns. | ||
| Yeah, like really good, too. | ||
| No, she's a really good markswoman, I guess you would say. | ||
| She's fighting Weile. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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That's gonna be that's gonna be very fun to watch. | |
| Well, at this point in her career, it seems to me that you know, she doesn't wade into the fire like she did when she was younger, you know, smarter, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I mean you can't. | ||
| And she grapples heavy too. | ||
| If she has a very good grappler, very good grappler. | ||
| But Jean Whaley is a demon. | ||
| She's a demon. | ||
| Chinese demon. | ||
| She comes out and she could do everything. | ||
| Artificially created. | ||
| She's got to deal with that wrestling though. | ||
| That's the one thing I see. | ||
| Yeah, well, um, it's gonna be interesting. | ||
| It's gonna be interesting see if Jean Whaley is even stronger at 125. | ||
| Because I don't know how much weight she's cutting. | ||
| You know, I don't know how hard that 115 cut is. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But when you're down that low, ten pounds is a giant difference. | ||
| Everything it's so big. | ||
| There's never been any movement on just making another weight class in the middle of that. | ||
| God, there should be. | ||
| There should be a weight. | ||
| It should never happen. | ||
| There should be a weight class every 10 pounds for me. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No, boxing is a lot more. | ||
| Boxing a lot more. | ||
| It's just they just need it where there's tweeners, like 85 to 205 is bananas. | ||
| 20 pounds is crazy. | ||
| Well, hold up. | ||
| Remember, I I would fight at one two thirty, two thirty-five. | ||
| Every guy I fought was two sixty-five. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Think about from two oh six to two sixty-five is a weight class. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Really, I should be a cruiserweight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It should be a two twenty-five weight class. | ||
| Remember when we were trying to figure out that name the other day for the weight class in boxing? | ||
| I think it's called Bridgerweight. | ||
| I think they're calling it Bridgerweight. | ||
| There's like a 220-something weight class. | ||
| Meanwhile, I would like to. | ||
| Meanwhile, the gorilla over here couldn't make 225. | ||
| And he'll tell you he can, but he could. | ||
| Well, you could, but it would be horrible. | ||
| It would be it would be dehydration. | ||
| I could because I'm not doing tons of cardio now. | ||
| If Pereira can make 1850. | ||
| He can make it. | ||
| It's good. | ||
| But the thing is, like big strong muscle guys actually can lose more weight. | ||
| That's why Yo L could do it because your muscles are mostly wide. | ||
| Is that right? | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Yeah, bridger weight. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's an awesome idea. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's a good move. | ||
| I think that they should have legitimately a a weight class every ten pounds in MMA, and I don't think that's bad. | ||
| You'd have a thing. | ||
| 205, and you can get a little crazy there and go 205, 225. | ||
| And then I think for heavyweight, it should be unlimited. | ||
| It shouldn't be you have to make two. | ||
| The problem is you get big sloppies. | ||
| So what a single sloppies get fucked up. | ||
| They don't have a problem with that in boxing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Look at Moses Atama, right? | ||
| Boxing doesn't have a problem like that. | ||
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Right? | |
| That kid is only like 250 or something like that, or two forty something. | ||
| I mean, the UFC has a problem at two sixty-five. | ||
| Like there's no talent right now. | ||
| There's there's just no big guys. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But you don't have to be two sixty-five. | ||
| You you could be three hundred. | ||
| You could be two oh five. | ||
| Like a like literally Brock Lesnar. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, look at Brock Lesnar or or Francis if he didn't cut weight. | ||
| Like Francis Cutsell, or Tim Sylvie in his prime when he was "Sausse!" What is Francis'prime manufacturing big guys right now? | ||
| Francis is many. | ||
| Yeah, I think Francis at his highest is probably around 300. | ||
| What? | ||
| Seriously? | ||
| All muscle. | ||
| And and there's no fat on him. | ||
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No. | |
| I was I was sitting next to him, and his fucking qua like his leg was like a the size of my fucking torso. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| So he had to cut weight to get to 265. | ||
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What? | |
| Imagine that. | ||
| So did Carwin, so did Lesnar. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Some of those boys doing that. | ||
| So horny right now. | ||
| I mean I'm so hot. | ||
| I remember when I was trained at a Molly Easton's place in Boulder and Carwin walked in. | ||
| It looked like one of the Avengers. | ||
| A little like the thing. | ||
| He looks like the thing, you know. | ||
| First time I met so big. | ||
| First time I met Carwin, I look at him, I go, I go, fuck. | ||
| I go, I don't know what I'd do if I had to share a jail cell with you. | ||
| And he goes, I didn't even know him. | ||
| He goes, You'd suck my cock. | ||
| And then he picked me up. | ||
| I didn't even know he picked me up. | ||
| And he squeezed me, and I started tapping. | ||
| He goes, That's 30%. | ||
| That dude had giant fists. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| His fists were preposterous. | ||
| 4x, right? | ||
| Robert 4 and 5X. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Something bigger than that. | ||
| Yeah, he was 285. | ||
| He had the biggest glove ever, UFC history. | ||
| He was your he was your main sparring partner, right? | ||
| It's good for your head. | ||
| That's all I had. | ||
| Just punching each other in the face. | ||
| It was a great team. | ||
| We push each other. | ||
| Bro, how good is LaRome Murphy? | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| How about poor Aaron Pico? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is that what they're gonna do? | ||
| They did it. | ||
| What do you mean? | ||
| Got knocked out. | ||
| Leroy Murphy fucking spinning elbow Aaron Pico. | ||
| Oh, oh, oh, oh. | ||
| I thought you said Poirier and Pico. | ||
| Sorry, guys, speech impediment. | ||
| I thought you said that. | ||
| I was like, what? | ||
| The Poirier, what? | ||
| I was so confused. | ||
| I was like, Pico's going to 55, but he just got knocked out. | ||
| Dude, he looks sick. | ||
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He looks so Nico looks so good. | |
| He looks so good, man. | ||
| Yeah, he's so slick. | ||
| He's too aggressive. | ||
| You said it. | ||
| Pico's right. | ||
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Right away. | |
| Look at even Pico. | ||
| Pico Pico took him down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Amazing wrestler. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And couldn't hold him down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Good point. | ||
| It's a good point. | ||
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Right? | |
| If you had that daggy wrestling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You could control him more. | ||
| But even the first 20 seconds and I looked at my wife, I'll go, Pico's gonna get knocked out. | ||
| She's like, what the fuck? | ||
| I'm like, he's way too aggressive. | ||
| You can get away being that aggressive at these lower levels. | ||
| Bellator, PFL, all that shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| When you're fighting a world-class guy, dude, they're gonna use that aggression against you, and you're gonna get fucking time that's you're not just gonna get starched, you're gonna get so fucked. | ||
| I thought it was a I thought it was a lucky shot, and then I was like, Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| That's the vaccines talking. | ||
| Yeah, that's the vaccines. | ||
| It's the vaccines. | ||
| There's uh there's a few guys. | ||
| Oh, look at that fucking what is that choke? | ||
| Is that an Anaconda? | ||
| Uh I see the start of it. | ||
| How the guy gets over him and starts barking. | ||
| Jeez. | ||
| He's in that fight in nerd camp, right? | ||
| Yes, yes. | ||
| He's one of the best. | ||
| That's a good fight. | ||
| That's a really good fight. | ||
| Him and Lopez. | ||
| It's in San Antonio, isn't it? | ||
| Next Saturday. | ||
| It was supposed to be in Mexico. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, Lopez got who did he lose to? | ||
| Last fight? | ||
| Who is it? | ||
| Volkonovsky. | ||
| Guy Volkanovsky's so fucking good. | ||
| To come back, by the way, at that weight class, too. | ||
| His age. | ||
| At his age. | ||
| They should go le uh Murphy versus uh Volkanovsky. | ||
| Rob Font is doing his camp with us. | ||
| There's the choke, if you want to analyze it, Gordon. | ||
| That it's it's almost it's like a it looks like a figure four guillotine, but Bryce tried to turn out of it. | ||
| I think it started when he was chest to back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Remember that was Bryce's discipline fight because he praised him. | |
| It's a figure four guillotine, and he tried to turn out, but he didn't. | ||
| You're not getting out of the yikes. | ||
| Yeah, I talked to O'Malley about uh like I said, what is it about Marab, his chain wrestling and stuff? | ||
| And he was like, he's so he's actually he said Sean said he's fucking strong. | ||
| He's way stronger than you can imagine. | ||
| Like he's just you know, some of these guys are just made of metal. | ||
| That motherfucker worked so hard. | ||
| Rob? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So hard. | ||
| When DC went to visit him the day after he won after he won the title off of Sean, he was running. | ||
| What the day after DC went to his home in Vegas and he goes, Mirab's out running! | ||
| And DC made a video. | ||
| Can you believe this motherfucker? | ||
| He's a free. | ||
| He like showed his gym and the day after the fight. | ||
| The day after the fight. | ||
| So Sunday. | ||
| He went to visit his friend and who just won the title. | ||
| Marab is running. | ||
| Well, dude, he was when he was doing when he was wrestling with uh the gold medalist Henry Sehudo, he was winking and saying shit to Mark Zuckerberg at Cage Side. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's like, I'm the fight. | ||
| How many picked him up? | ||
| Picked him up like a dog. | ||
| Kissed his back. | ||
| Yeah, just threw him to the ground, laughing. | ||
| Marab has the best weapon in UFC history. | ||
| It's cardio. | ||
| It's cardio. | ||
| He's also just so good. | ||
| It's strange. | ||
| And what you gotta like about him is he's super active. | ||
| Most champions aren't. | ||
| He wants to fight all the time. | ||
| That's a thousand pounds. | ||
| Well, he trains so hard and he trains constantly. | ||
| And you know, when I talk to guys who trained with him in the gym, they're like, you can't even watch just watching him hit pads is nuts. | ||
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Really? | |
| He gets his everything full blast. | ||
| Full blast all the time. | ||
| And so he's gotten acclimated to just this insane workload. | ||
| And he loves it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Same work rate. | ||
| Also, he's from a part of the world where like George is tough. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's tough. | ||
| Because you have one option. | ||
| One option. | ||
| Fight your way out. | ||
| D DC was on Shay Shay Show, Shannon Sharps, and they were they're asking him, they're like, What is it about the Dagestanians? | ||
| And uh DC gave a great answer. | ||
| I love the interview. | ||
| He goes, It's not that they're better athletes or that they the any of that stuff. | ||
| They're not better athletes than we are. | ||
| It's just they have no other option. | ||
| So, like Shannon goes, You well, your son has all the resources. | ||
| But over there, they have nothing. | ||
| So my son has all the resources. | ||
| He's yeah, he's like, they they have to make it. | ||
| Well, my son can fall back on his dad. | ||
| Over there, there's no fallback. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So they train their ass off. | ||
| Because they have to. | ||
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Also, the hunger, the the drive to succeed. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| And in Russia, it's supported. | ||
| Those countries, like you get a doctorate in boxing and shit. | ||
| Like you know, you're you gotta you get a massive stipend. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Khabib for winning the championship owns like half of Russia. | ||
| Yes, he does. | ||
| That's the award. | ||
| Yeah, like try to get him to fight again, man. | ||
| Like he's like, what? | ||
| Why? | ||
| Why would I do that? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Why would I put myself through that? | ||
| Plus, he's got to weigh 200 pounds now. | ||
| He's thick. | ||
| He's very thick. | ||
| He's big. | ||
| This boy Islam's doing it I think Islam only has like two or three left. | ||
| Max. | ||
| Maybe two left. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| What makes you think that? | ||
| In his interviews talked about it. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude, John Fitch said when he would wrestle, uh, and John Fitz is an insane wrestler. | ||
| And John's probably 200 pounds walking around. | ||
| John said, in fact, he was 205 when I was talking to him. | ||
| And and he said, when he would wrestle Kabib, if he could stand up once in practice with him, it was a good day. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| Like that's John Fitch. | ||
| But isn't very fascinating what you're saying, Gordon, that there is a giant difference between just regular freestyle wrestling and control-based MMA wrestling. | ||
| Yeah, it's it's completely different. | ||
| The different different rules, different scoring criteria, like the the takedowns themselves score, and the higher amplitude the throw, the more points you score. | ||
| Whereas when you're fighting, especially at the heavier weights, you don't want to lift the guy fucking over your back multiple times. | ||
| You get tired, and the more the more energy the throw, the more the higher amplitude, the less control you have when you land. | ||
| Americans just need to adapt to that style. | ||
| Again, they don't have some secret. | ||
| It's just we need to adapt our style to it. | ||
| Yeah, but they adapt it early on, and that's that's the secret. | ||
| There's so much to it though. | ||
| There's so much to it. | ||
| But if you if you look at Dagestani guys, they are they are significantly better than the Americans and every everyone uh at riding chest to chest and especially riding chest to back. | ||
| Like it's pretty easy to hold the guy down if you just stuff him in half guard and you ride chest to chest. | ||
| But when the guys start to turtle and they turn away, like Kabib, the only thing that ever fucked up Kabib was when guys grammied on him, like a guy I uh I forget who he fought earlier in his career, grammied a few times and actually got away. | ||
| Actually, reverse. | ||
| And then um, but and then Hamza actually follows Gramby's pretty well, like DDP tried one Gramby, I think it was, and Hamzat followed through. | ||
| Yeah, but their ability to ride chest to back uh and just keep hands on the floor the whole time. | ||
| So the entire weight, the entire like for like 22 minutes. | ||
| Carrying their weight D D P was carrying Hamnad's entire body weight. | ||
| It's also their risk control, so they take they take away their foundations. | ||
| Yeah, one of the most anxiety-filled moments I ever had calling a fight was when he got Michael Johnson and when Khabib got Michael Johnson in a Kamora and Michael wasn't tapping. | ||
| I'm like, Don't fuck please tap, please tap. | ||
| Please tap because it was like full on and if he wanted to, he could have snapped a shit. | ||
| Was that when he was talking to him saying, Come on, he's you know I deserve this? | ||
| You know I deserve titles. | ||
| You know, I deserve it. | ||
| Come on, come up, tap now. | ||
| That would have been like, you know, you're right. | ||
| I mean, what was actually interesting in the Hamdot fight was no and no one talked about this was he actually ended up in bottom position at the end of the fight. | ||
| Yes, and he ended up in half guard, he he couldn't get up, and DDP passed him into mount and then briefly took his back. | ||
| He fucked it up and he fell off, so everyone forgot about it. | ||
| But Hamzad himself wasn't that good at getting up when he was in bottom position. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good point. | ||
| He's very good. | ||
| He did a really good job at holding the guy down, but when he actually got put in bottom position, it it's it's funny because if he's he knows how to hold the guy down, so in theory, he should be able to reverse engineer that and say, Yeah, I'm doing this, this, and this to hold the guy down, so I need to deny him the ability to do this, this, and this. | ||
| But I I'd be curious on Hamzat's camp how often guys are getting him where he's working on his back. | ||
| Nobody is. | ||
| Yeah, probably nobody. | ||
| Well, that's that's his as his his problem. | ||
| Oh, how do you think he should be putting himself in those positions? | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| You know another good matchup that's coming? | ||
| Boat Nickel is uh fighting. | ||
| Oh, I just saw that. | ||
| I forget who it is now. | ||
| Yeah, what what about what about him? | ||
| Is he a really great jiu-jitsu guy? | ||
| World champion. | ||
| You ever seen his body? | ||
| Adolfo. | ||
| It makes Glaze and Tebow look like a fatso. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Show me Rodolfo Vieira's body. | ||
| You've never seen Hodolfo. | ||
| Adolpha's Jiu Jitsu guy. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| One of the freakiest bodies you've ever seen in MMA. | ||
| And an amazing jiu-jitsu guy. | ||
| World class jujitsu. | ||
| I think that's a tough matchup for Hadalfo. | ||
| Damn it. | ||
| Oh, that guy's fucking awesome. | ||
| I saw him at uh Metamorris. | ||
| Bro, he's a beast. | ||
| He fought somebody. | ||
| He's ridiculous. | ||
| He's a beast. | ||
| Yeah, I fucking, I'm built for dance. | ||
| This is such bullshit. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| But uh in in MMA, he's his striking is much improved. | ||
| He's getting a lot better. | ||
| He's getting better. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| It's a good fight for Bo. | ||
| He's better than fucking Paulo Costa. | ||
| That's just shows you how fucking dangerous Fluffy Hernandez is because Fluffy cooked him. | ||
| He finished him. | ||
| Fluffy fucking people up. | ||
| He fucks people up. | ||
| He's like people someone was calling him the middleweight Marab. | ||
| And it's like that. | ||
| Like he melts guys. | ||
| He melts guys. | ||
| And it's interesting because he doesn't have like a world-class background in wrestling. | ||
| He quit wrestling, I think his freshman year in high school. | ||
| So he doesn't have like this extensive wrestling background. | ||
| Dog. | ||
| That guy's. | ||
| Remember you, me and Matt Mitre on, we were backstage and Rodolfo had his shirt off. | ||
| And he's just standing like that. | ||
| When? | ||
| It was at your fight. | ||
| Me, me, Matt Matron, and you, and I, and we were both look, we're all looking at him like this, just like like like teenage girls. | ||
| It's like, what the fuck is going on with that guy's body? | ||
| He has a preposterous build. | ||
| Preposterous. | ||
| It's interesting though how he doesn't have a lot of submissions in the UFC. | ||
| No. | ||
| Guys avoid it. | ||
| Guys avoid it, keep it on the feet. | ||
| You know? | ||
| It was like Bouchesha, too. | ||
| He came over, you know, he's doing well in one championship, then came over the UFC and he got fucking dealt with, man. | ||
| I love Boushesha. | ||
| But just didn't translate. | ||
| And then Boudet, the guy who beat him, they cut. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| I didn't watch that fight, but uh, from what I understand, Bouchetha had a hard time holding him down. | ||
| He had his back so many times and he was getting high. | ||
| It's like, buddy, I need to know Jiu Jitsu 101. | ||
| How does a guy win a fight and then you cut him? | ||
| Boring. | ||
| UFC's there for entertainment. | ||
| They did that. | ||
| Was it that boring? | ||
| I mean, that's how you're supposed to fight that guy. | ||
| Like you say Ham T's fight with DDP was boring then. | ||
| Oh, I loved it. | ||
| But I see what you're saying, right? | ||
| I see what you're saying. | ||
| But with with him, it's you know, heavyweight, no finishes, and he had a body of a you know a lunch lady. | ||
| But we can't sell this. | ||
| We can't understand. | ||
| Cutting him off of win against Bouchecha is is kind of rough. | ||
| I I I agree. | ||
| Yeah, they just had a lot of hype coming in. | ||
| They didn't cut, they didn't cut him, they didn't re-sign him. | ||
| That's the same thing. | ||
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Hey, tomato type. | |
| Tot your boy Dana. | ||
| I'm the Dana. | ||
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I'm with Zayda. | |
| I would be the worst for that because I'm an I would be like anti-marketing. | ||
| I would be, there's the number system. | ||
| Let's figure out what the number system is. | ||
| So number one, the champion, always has to fight number two. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I get it, but I mean I feel like we're trying to see what the best guy is. | ||
| If it's football, hey, what can I get baseball or anything like that? | ||
| Like you have to you do this, and that's how you get you get to the number one. | ||
| You'll see it in the case. | ||
| Craig's gotta be careful that overhand right. | ||
| But they make they'll make more money than me. | ||
| They'll make way more money than my version, which takes place on a football field. | ||
| Dude, you and Eddie in that fucking football field and no gloves. | ||
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No gloves. | |
| No gloves. | ||
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Yes, years of argument. | |
| Um up kicks allowed, up kicks allowed. | ||
| Soccer kicks allowed, stomps allowed, pride, old pride. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But better. | ||
| God. | ||
| Because pride didn't have elbows. | ||
| True. | ||
| Which is really bananas. | ||
| When you think about it. | ||
| That's what they drew the line. | ||
| When Rampage Jackson did, do you do you remember when Ricardo Rona, that crazy slam off the triangle? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Now imagine that's okay. | ||
| But you can't elbow a guy. | ||
| No, that's where we draw the line. | ||
| Or like bandalic stomps, like stomp kicking. | ||
| Do they even have did Pride even have standing elbows? | ||
| I don't remember. | ||
| Name one elbow every song. | ||
| That is wild. | ||
| So we see Crocop soccer kick guy in the face. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Literally. | ||
| Like, that's good. | ||
| That is so crazy. | ||
| They didn't even allow standing elbows. | ||
| That's where they draw the line, dude. | ||
| They used to have headbuts. | ||
| You could be in somebody's car and just starting headbutting. | ||
| No, no, that was UFC. | ||
| That was early days. | ||
| They used to do that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Maybe early days of Pride had that. | ||
| Because early days of Pride was like 94. | ||
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Uh huh. | |
| And there was still headbuts back then because I remember when I was working for the UFC in 97, Mark Coleman was using headbuts from the guard. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yep. | ||
| And with wrestling shoes on. | ||
| Yeah, bro. | ||
| Everybody got on the sauce and Mark Coleman was around. | ||
| Everybody got saucy. | ||
| That's a rumor. | ||
| Everybody got saucy. | ||
| Because that dude would hold you down and headbutt the fuck out of you. | ||
| Do you want to talk about somebody on the sauce when you look at Mark Kerr and his heyday? | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| Captain America besides Randy Hands. | ||
| I was there, he was like two eighty-five. | ||
| I was there when Kerr. | ||
| He wrestled at 188 in college, senior year, I believe. | ||
| And he was 260. | ||
| And then he was like, this is gay. | ||
| I was there when I'm going to 285. | ||
| Kerr when Kerr fought Dan Bobit and he stuck his chin in his eye. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Stuck his chin in his eye socket and grabbed the back of his neck and you should look God. | ||
| I'll tap. | ||
| Look at that's me interviewing him. | ||
| I was with you, Bubba. | ||
| Size of that motherfucker. | ||
| I was with you that that uh we went to that fight. | ||
| And we talked to him afterwards. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| How about the picture of him next to it? | ||
| The sad truth. | ||
| Oh my god, that's crazy. | ||
| How about the rocket to get on more steroids to play him in a biopic? | ||
| That's how big Marker was. | ||
| They're like, hey, hey Rock, we need you to play Marker. | ||
| We need you to get him on more steroids. | ||
| I hear Rock got like a they got a eight minutes standing. | ||
| Yeah, on that. | ||
| Brock lost a lot of weight. | ||
| He lost a lot of weight. | ||
| Have you seen him now? | ||
| He's slimmed down. | ||
| I bet getting that big probably felt like shit. | ||
| Well, someone was like, hey, your heart's gonna explode, right? | ||
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And number two, you got 50 and your heart's gonna explain. | |
| Your heart's working overtime. | ||
| And you don't have to forge internals anymore. | ||
| And also he wants different roles. | ||
| He doesn't want to just play the action. | ||
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Right, right, right. | |
| Of course. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They all want to do that. | ||
| Batista. | ||
| That's why he's right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He lost all that weight too. | ||
| And people are like, oh, you look so scrawny now. | ||
| And he was like, I'm 6'4, 240. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He's like, I need to break too. | ||
| My fucking body, man. | ||
| Like the difference between him at 300 pounds being very unhealthy. | ||
| He's like, I feel so much better now. | ||
| Yeah, I saw him in an interview recently. | ||
| I love that guy as an actor, but the thing that he did on the Jimmy Kimmel show where he was like mocking Trump and like punching the heavy wag and calling him a bag of milk. | ||
| It was so cringy. | ||
| Who is this? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's like, you think you're a tough guy? | ||
| Yeah, fuck, dude. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| He's 80. | ||
| What are you doing, dude? | ||
| So pinging the bag? | ||
| What is this? | ||
| Who told who said you should do this? | ||
| Have you ever seen his if he wins? | ||
| This is a bad look. | ||
| Well, I bet you got paid though. | ||
| I bet he did. | ||
| It's like Travis Kelsey with Pfizer. | ||
| Yeah, he gave like 20. | ||
| 20 mil. | ||
| I was making fun of him. | ||
| They told me how much he made. | ||
| I went to the city. | ||
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I get it. | |
| He was uh he probably said, Give me that Biden dose. | ||
| Batista had an alien in it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What's that? | ||
| Have you seen Batista had an MMA fight? | ||
| Yeah, one MMA fights took guy down. | ||
| Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| Big fucking strong. | ||
| You always gotta be careful with celebrity belts. | ||
| Well, I Matter Royal, I think. | ||
| Who's got one that's it's illegitimate? | ||
| Is there because everybody brings up that Moneybird guy? | ||
| You you trained with him. | ||
| Yeah, friends with him. | ||
| Gordon, Gordon, Gordon. | ||
| Derek. | ||
| Everyone thinks that Derek is gonna go out and beat an ADCC champion. | ||
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Well, that's about to get a big thing. | |
| That's not how it's gonna work. | ||
| Um, but I mean, if he trained with like a guy, his like he's 45 years old or 42 years old. | ||
| Like if he trained trained with like a 42-year-old black belt, he'd do fine. | ||
| That's all you need to hear. | ||
| Because everybody was so against it in saying that because he's rich... | ||
| But here's the thing if you're rich and you have discipline. | ||
| Oh, jeez. | ||
| And oh, did he kill him? | ||
| Yeah, that's bad. | ||
| That's really bad. | ||
| Come on events coming up. | ||
| What was that? | ||
| That was a weird stop. | ||
| It was bad. | ||
| No, not really. | ||
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It was really bad. | |
| No, no, no, no, no, no. | ||
| I mean, it like he stepped away. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, it was off to the bell. | ||
| Oh, we didn't hear the bell. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| They should waved it off. | ||
| Bukakis had the worst fucking knee injury I've ever seen in the UFC. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Khalil Round Tree sidekicked him in the knee. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| It was horrible, dude. | ||
| He totally bent his knees sideways and down. | ||
| See if you can find that, Jamie, so we can all cringe. | ||
| Gordon, I guess. | ||
| I guess when it comes to giving a big little round tree with Dustus Bukakis. | ||
| I guess when it comes to giving that rich guy the black belt, I think for people that do jujitsu, it's like there's different levels of black belt. | ||
| Like if you if you're never gonna compete and he got him what two years? | ||
| It's three and a half. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| First thing is that fucking matter. | ||
| Like just get that Arjitsu. | ||
| The belts are relevant. | ||
| That's point. | ||
| Good point. | ||
| It's like it just explained irrelevant. | ||
| Like the there's just focus on getting better at jujitsu. | ||
| The belts are irrelevant. | ||
| Agree. | ||
| I didn't I didn't come up with the mark and give him his black belt. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, listen, I would I didn't give him his black belt either. | ||
| Um but if you're but Jake Shields did it, Jake Shields is very legit. | ||
| And so if he said he's a black belt, I just take it at face value. | ||
| Okay, watch this, watch this. | ||
| Oh jeez. | ||
| Bro, and that's Khalil Roundtree who's one of the nastiest fucking kickers in the sport. | ||
| Ugh. | ||
| Knee is shot. | ||
| Oh, look at him. | ||
| He's just laying there in agony. | ||
| And you know that's ten months. | ||
| Oh, at least. | ||
| He had to get it reconstructed. | ||
| But now Bukakis has some big ass legs. | ||
| Here's the elbow that took Paul Craig out. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Fucking. | ||
| Isn't that crazy how sideways that goes? | ||
| Fuck that. | ||
| That goes so sideways, dude. | ||
| It just blew it apart. | ||
| God. | ||
| Your knees are the shit. | ||
| But he trained seven days a week. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Like four hours a day. | ||
| Who does? | ||
| Derek. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| That's legit. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| If you've got discipline with legitimate champions, and he has like some of the best ability to recall information that I've ever seen. | ||
| Like I could I can teach him something. | ||
| I could teach him something. | ||
| Autism. | ||
| Why about it? | ||
| I can teach him something, and like I come to you later, and he's like, he's like, oh, we worked on this, this, and this last time. | ||
| So I guess I guess he'd be a black belt as far as knowledge knowledge rolling with you guys. | ||
| But as far as competition goes, like is he executing it in against other guys? | ||
| Like besides you. | ||
| He doesn't compete. | ||
| He has no aspiration. | ||
| No, no, no, he means in training, which sparks. | ||
| Like, does he does he go against other like purple belts, brown belts? | ||
| Uh so he trains he trains for the guy, so he comes in to try to train him. | ||
| So he doesn't have like a lot of looks. | ||
| Like he has like he doesn't go like a normal gym and train, which I think is something that's important to do just for your just personal journey in jiu-jitsu. | ||
| Um but if he like we like we just opened the new school, we just opened Kingsway. | ||
| Uh-and we have like we have we have a bunch of black belts who come from other schools. | ||
| Uh-huh. | ||
| And you know, he goes against it. | ||
| For the last like 10 years, I'm used to being around like a shitty black belt to me, is like a guy compete at a world level and I call my submission on. | ||
| That's like my sh my like definition of a shitty black belt. | ||
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God damn. | |
| Like sorry. | ||
| But there's levels. | ||
| Fuck you, Gordon. | ||
| No, there's levels. | ||
| When you actually go to a gym and you see what your average black belt is, it kind of brings you back to reality. | ||
| And you're like, oh, this is what most black belts are. | ||
| Like if Derek rolled with like a regular black belt in a gym, he'd do fine. | ||
| Maybe, right? | ||
| Because he has he's not doing it. | ||
| It's like when Brian told me he's really good at tennis, and I said, Are you paying the the instructor? | ||
| I didn't say that. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like if you're paying the guy. | ||
| I train with normal black belt at a gym and I train with Derek when I go there. | ||
| Like he I'm I'm telling you, he would do fine against the normal black belt. | ||
| Well, then that's what it is. | ||
| Yeah, you would know. | ||
| Like, like he's not gonna he's not gonna go out and win worlds, but like if he had if he got to compete against like an average black belt who's been doing jujitsu for you know ten years and he does it for an hour at a random gym in Kentucky, like you would hold his own. | ||
| Like he would, I mean, he would probably beat him up to be honest. | ||
| Wait, Wayne McCulloch said about me on a on a radio station. | ||
| I like how he brought it back to you. | ||
| No, I'm gonna tell you, because they to his point, to his point, Wayne McCullough McCullough goes, I put I put Brian in the I laugh even saying it. | ||
| He goes, he goes, I put Brian in the ring with anybody. | ||
| I meanwhile, meanwhile, even a remotely good amateur would knock me the fuck out. | ||
| It's not just that, being in the ring with anybody doesn't mean anything. | ||
| It just means you once watched you get punched, also I never put Brian in the ring with Mike Tyson. | ||
| Also, I never I never I would spar with these guys if they were good, they would take it easy and they'd move around with a 48-year-old actor. | ||
| Like he's a he's a 42-year-old hobbyist who's worth a hundred million dollars and focuses on making money. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And also trains four hours a day. | ||
| Sounds awesome. | ||
| If you're disciplined, everyone's giving him shit because he used it to market himself and was like, you're too fucking stupid to get a black belt in three and a half years, and I'm not. | ||
| That's why everyone's upset about him. | ||
| Well, but he does he just train hard every day. | ||
| It's a great idea because I had no idea he existed, and now I'm defending him. | ||
| Yeah, I've defended him based on what you said. | ||
| Actually, he's here right now. | ||
| He did the 1030. | ||
| Paul Craig just retired. | ||
| Good for him. | ||
| Yeah, that's enough. | ||
| I mean, that guy's been KO'd again a gang of times, and he's a great guy. | ||
| He's very smart too. | ||
| I'm sure it's like to a point though, right? | ||
| Where you get to an age. | ||
| By the way, has a fucking submission victory over the champion, Mangoman Nikolaev. | ||
| Caught him with a triangle. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| His triangle's so tight, it's so quick, too. | ||
| Oh he got on Calaban. | ||
| Yeah, with one second to go, dog, one second to go in the third round. | ||
| Whipped up a triangle and fucking he made him tap with one second to go. | ||
| That's how tight it was. | ||
| And had the COVID vaccine the day before. | ||
| That's what's incredible. | ||
| Yeah, he had all of them. | ||
| But Gordon, you can see why some people, if a guy gets his blackburn two years, you're like, okay, what's going on? | ||
| Three and a half. | ||
| But you're right, you're not going to be able to do that. | ||
| But how much did he really train? | ||
| So like this is the idea that we always say. | ||
| This is what I always say with like when people talk about Jake Paul. | ||
| They say, Oh, Jake Paul is fucking YouTubers, this and that. | ||
| Goes, pull all push all that away. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| But that doesn't mean he can't be good at something. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like, and also the kid was a wrestler in high school and college, legitimate athlete. | ||
| Like, if I just watched him, if I watched him knock out Tyron Woodley, just watched him, I'd say that kid's a prospect. | ||
| He's fun, he's exciting, he's young, he's got one punch, go to sleep, power. | ||
| Yes, exactly. | ||
| He didn't have all that baggage. | ||
| But I put it. | ||
| But that's the baggage is psychological. | ||
| You look at him like he's the YouTube guy. | ||
| Yeah, but a rich guy, like uh like a Moneybird guy or a Zuckerberg, you say, Oh, he can fuck that guy. | ||
| But if he's got discipline and he can hire the best trainers, if he really doesn't have to do it, then he's tough. | ||
| If he's actually like, he's better, he's in Austin. | ||
| He did the 1030 to 12 class, and then he's taking he's taking three two-hour private with John Carlo Luke and Marigali. | ||
| That's legit. | ||
| So you trained. | ||
| You can't knock just that on the water. | ||
| And he's also been really successful in something else, so he applies that discipline to his own. | ||
| And not only that, the workload, if he's doing that many hours and he's doing it every day, it's a lot. | ||
| This is the Gordon Ryan method, right? | ||
| Your method has always been not just study harder than everybody else, but you don't take days off. | ||
| That's a giant factor. | ||
| Yeah, it's a giant factor. | ||
| I've taught I talk about him all the time because that training 365 days a year. | ||
| You wouldn't take one day kind of nuts. | ||
| No. | ||
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| No days off. | ||
| I mean, if I'm sick or I have staff or my legs hurt, I come watch. | ||
| I'm always there thinking about the sport. | ||
| But Joe, but when I my thing with Jake Paul is there, take all that baggage away. | ||
| You would still if this is if boxing had a uh a belt class system, you would still say Jake is a blue belt with his experience. | ||
| You wouldn't say he's a black belt, he's not a master of the sport, even though he's dedicated to whatever the last four. | ||
| But this goes back to my original point, which is just belts are just fucking meaningless. | ||
| This belt thing, like blue belts can beat up black belts now. | ||
| Yeah, I don't like you know, it's they certainly can if they're strong and they're fast, and they got tight technique and the black belts got a big thing. | ||
| That's a really good black belt. | ||
| There was no blue belt. | ||
| When I end up black belt in three and a half years, no, but I also don't have any black belts. | ||
| Like my standard for a black belt is like so unrealistically high that I don't even I don't have a black belt. | ||
| Have you not given a black belt? | ||
| No. | ||
| Eddie had this kid, I don't have any black belt. | ||
| Eddie had this kid that was division one wrestler. | ||
| I wish I could remember his name because he was a fucking nightmare. | ||
| Every time I roll, it was so ridiculous. | ||
| We would do neon belly drills, and you know, you start with neon belly, and this dude would throw me off him like I was a pillow, and then when he would get on top of me, knee on my belly, I was going nowhere. | ||
| I was stuck there. | ||
| We're the same size, we're the same size. | ||
| He was crazy fucking strong. | ||
| Now, that guy was a blue belt. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Do you know what I'm saying? | ||
| Like he was just an elite wrestler who you just show him a few of these things, and he already knows how to move his body and control people. | ||
| But he doesn't know how to do an umma plot or a proper handball. | ||
| He didn't, he's terrible off his back. | ||
| Yeah, he's good at the ball. | ||
| He's not a black belt, but he's also been the wrestling. | ||
| He could fuck black belts up. | ||
| Yeah, he could. | ||
| Because he could pass your guard, he would smush you, he would geek. | ||
| But he was a D1 wrestler, right? | ||
| He was a D1 wrestler who was jacked. | ||
| He had this power lifting routine that he would do. | ||
| He would not skip powerlifting route workouts. | ||
| He's like, it's the most important part of my game. | ||
| It was all clean. | ||
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| And that's all power lifting, deadlifts, snatches. | ||
| It was all that's all he did. | ||
| To the other end of that, we've had D1 guys come in to the academy and they get fucking smoked. | ||
| That can happen too. | ||
| That could happen too. | ||
| But this kid was how it goes. | ||
| But he was training for a couple of things. | ||
| There's been blue belts or purple elves that come in and get fucking starch, man. | ||
| It takes a long time to learn and stuff like that. | ||
| But I'm saying is that this guy loved MMA. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was an elite wrestler. | ||
| And he was two years into jujitsu, but he was a blue belt. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he's a blue belt, but years of experience. | ||
| Fucking trouble. | ||
| I just gave Jason Nolfa's blue belt. | ||
| Jason Nolfa's like having matches with like Renato Canut, like he's like having like he had matches like Ty Ratolo, like he's having like competitive matches. | ||
| And did you give him away his blue because of experience? | ||
| Well, he's like a world-class wrestler. | ||
| Like he's such a fashion. | ||
| Do you think I think this is I've always said this, but I say it again. | ||
| That's the best base. | ||
| If you could dictate where the fight takes place, that's the most important thing. | ||
| Look at all the champs. | ||
| Yeah, all fights start striking. | ||
| But look what happens to a lot of these guys that have Striking. | ||
| And like, did you see when Chaos Williams fought Gustafson? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| That fucking Viking dude. | ||
| No. | ||
| He just Chaos Williams is terrifying power. | ||
| Terrifying one punch. | ||
| Just has a highlight reel of starching guys with one shot. | ||
| This fucking Viking just got a hold of him and just absolutely ragdolled him for three rounds. | ||
| To the point, like you felt bad for chaos at the end. | ||
| It was a beat down beating the shit out of him. | ||
| Like I've never seen him be able to beat the shit out of chaos. | ||
| It's grappling. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| The wrestling is so goddamn important. | ||
| If you can do that and you can hold a guy and you could dictate where the fight takes place, that's number one. | ||
| Even if a fight starts standing. | ||
| It also creates fucking dangerous. | ||
| And Gustavson got KO'd earlier today. | ||
| He he got KO'd by uh that Russian cat that I thought was gonna be a grappling match. | ||
| Alexander Gussen. | ||
| He doesn't have no no no. | ||
| Oh, okay. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Completely different. | ||
| Andreas Gustinson. | ||
| But his fucking strength is insane. | ||
| This guy does one armed barbell snatches with 175 pounds. | ||
| What? | ||
| That dude. | ||
| He's like the strongest guy. | ||
| Find some video. | ||
| There's vid there's a video compilation of him weight lifting. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| This is him. | ||
| Yeah, that's like crazy. | ||
| Look at how much he got stopped today in the first round. | ||
| What does he what does he fight at? | ||
| 170. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| So my point is, at least in the Chaos Williams fight's good example. | ||
| The grappling is so goddamn important. | ||
| It's number one. | ||
| Number one for sure. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Number one for sure. | ||
| Oh keep on the feet, go to the floor. | ||
| And if you're fighting for 20 years, like you take so much less damage than a striker. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| That's the thing that no one talks about. | ||
| Like, look how much damage like uh like a beep took in his career versus one hand. | ||
| But that's why I always say touched four or five times his whole. | ||
| But that's why I say it's always way more impressive what Izzy's done, what Alex has done. | ||
| When they're strikers and they they're they don't have an option to grapple, and you know they're gonna keep it on the feet and they get to that championship level. | ||
| That level of difficulty is so much higher than what Kabib or these other grapplers are doing. | ||
| Because you know they're not they're only gonna do one thing. | ||
| Right just gonna show like Pereira. | ||
| That's what I'm saying, Alex. | ||
| Alex is all they're gonna do is they're gonna knock you out. | ||
| Yeah, they have no other uh other way to win. | ||
| That's that's all they're gonna do. | ||
| Well, when they get to the championship level, he was the guy I was the most excited about when he came over from glory. | ||
| Because I'm a warrior. | ||
| I was like, dude, you gotta you gotta watch this. | ||
| Man, I just always lost. | ||
| You always remember from gyms, right? | ||
| Like there's always there's always a guy in the gym that you're like, how are you doing that? | ||
| Like, how are you hitting everybody so hard? | ||
| Like, how are you hitting there's guys you'd watch them hit pads? | ||
| You're like, okay, what the fuck are you doing different than everybody else? | ||
| That's Pereira. | ||
| You see him right hook that fucking punch machine. | ||
| Yeah, you know that punch machine? | ||
| Yeah, he got one ninety with his right hand, his left hand's his power hand, dude. | ||
| His left hand was hurt, yeah, so he threw a right. | ||
| God Mike Brown about he said that about Dustin Poirier. | ||
| He said Dustin Poirier knocks guys out all the time. | ||
| I he Dostin Pore is a terrific puncher, absolutely. | ||
| But Pereira is a different thing, man. | ||
| You're talking about the biggest. | ||
| He's like a one in a million guy. | ||
| Really? | ||
| The power this guy has is one in a million. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| He's built like a brain manager. | ||
| He's built different. | ||
| He's built like a fucking alien, man. | ||
| His bill is this high, it starts in the middle of his back. | ||
| He is a legitimate Amazon warrior, like a lit absolute legit Amazon warrior. | ||
| His family comes from an Amazonian tribe. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| So he the power this guy. | ||
| You see his sister? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| She's fucking bitch is out too. | ||
| She's fucking good, man. | ||
| And technically, this is when he knocked out Izzy the first time. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Terrifying puncher. | ||
| And then by the time he got to glory, he went up from 85 and put some mass on. | ||
| And that's when he started fucking people up. | ||
| When he was a two-time glory champion in 85 and 205. | ||
| God, did they fast track him? | ||
| He's LFA starch and dude. | ||
| They put him right in the UFC. | ||
| Right in the UFC. | ||
| Starching. | ||
| Starches Michaelatus with that flying knee. | ||
| Oh my goodness. | ||
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| And then starches Sean Strickland. | ||
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| And then he had that one fight where Bruno Silva made the fucking that dude. | ||
| Uh I forget who he's fighting. | ||
| That that guy. | ||
| There's so many guys in here. | ||
| Like he fought Jason Wilness and head kicked him and then flying knee him in the head. | ||
| Jason Williams is a world champion, dude. | ||
| Like an elite world champion. | ||
| Good god, man. | ||
| I know they have to have that. | ||
| This is him against Dustin Jacobi. | ||
| Watch that left hook. | ||
| One more time. | ||
| One more time. | ||
| That is fucking Crazy power, dude. | ||
| Look at this boom. | ||
| Look at that power. | ||
| It's just different, man. | ||
| There's every now and then a guy, you'll see a guy hit the bag, you'll see a guy hit pads, you see a guy punch someone in the ring, and you're like, what is he doing different? | ||
| That's Pereira. | ||
| Like maybe the best example in kickboxing I've ever seen. | ||
| Because everybody knocks guys out. | ||
| They're all killer strikers. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But his was different. | ||
| There was a finality to what he did to people. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Ferocious. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| Bro, and these are big ass gloves, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| These aren't MMA. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| They're 10. | ||
| They're tens. | ||
| Yeah, they're tens. | ||
| But then those also are world-class strikers, he's not going to be able to get away. | ||
| Yeah, this is Jason Wilness. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Flying knee. | ||
| Those are world-class guys, bro. | ||
| Just in Wilmers is a world champion dude. | ||
| He head kicked him first, and then he flying knee to my God. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| Yeah, he's not doing the skins. | ||
| So no grappling. | ||
| I mean, he had zero grappling. | ||
| And in fact, he had one MMA fight, he got taken down and rearna get choked. | ||
| So that guy got taken down and rechoked, which highlights how fucking important grappling is. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| Then he hooks up with Glover. | ||
| So that was the big thing. | ||
| Glover to Share teaches him how to wrestle at least a little bit. | ||
| Teaches, and then slowly over time you see it getting better and better inside the octagon. | ||
| Take down defense standing up, all that stuff. | ||
| But then you get to a certain point where there's not I don't give a fuck if Gorin's teaching whatever. | ||
| There's not enough hours in the day to make up that gap when you get to a certain level that you have to see. | ||
| Like for DDP, there's nothing we can do for him to beat Hamza. | ||
| There's not enough time in his life to be Hamza in wrestling. | ||
| He's not 21 years old. | ||
| We're like, uh not even if you get Russians in there and they're like, this is what you got to do. | ||
| He can definitely get better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| No doubt he can get better. | ||
| But Hamzad is extraordinary. | ||
| Yeah, he is. | ||
| He's extraordinary. | ||
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| He said it wasn't his strength. | ||
| He said it's a good thing. | ||
| You think you can go in. | ||
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| I think it's it's possible. | ||
| I have to pee before I watch this fight because I'm excited about the big thing. | ||
| I think one of the worst backgrounds to get into with MMA, unfortunately, is jujitsu with no wrestling and no striking. | ||
| Classical Jiu Jitsu. | ||
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| I think if the worst because you have no ability to dictate where the where the fight goes. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Uh so if if you if and there's also an agreed upon unspoken rule in jiu-jitsu, where one guy plays top, one guy plays bottom. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And the way that the point system is set up in jiu-jitsu is that the guy on bottom stays on bottom, the guy on top tries to pass. | ||
| So they're showing a Hamzad highlight really here now. | ||
| I want his drive, sorry. | ||
| No, no, it's okay. | ||
| So go ahead. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| So it's usually it's usually the guy on top is patty cake, paddy cake, paddy cake, opportunity, passes scores, backs away, paddy cake, paddy cake, passes scores. | ||
| So jujitsu guys never actually focus on holding anyone down. | ||
| Which is why when they actually go to fight people, they just have zero to build to keep them in bottom position. | ||
| And if you look at the finishers, like people are people are minimalists in jujitsu. | ||
| Whereas the ideal for jujitsu is a maximalist. | ||
| Like you do the minimum amount of work to win. | ||
| So they paddy cake, paddy cake, side control three points, and they stall for the rest of the match. | ||
| Whereas, whereas if you actually go in and you look at guys who actually work towards finality, then you have guys who are actually good finishers. | ||
| Um if you just combine all this, like even Hadolpha versus that guy Fluffy, is his nickname. | ||
| Like he got to good positions, like he mounted him, he took his back multiple times, but he spent his whole career just winning on points. | ||
| So when he actually went to finish him, like there's like it's just you don't have the mechanism. | ||
| It's fascinating that the rule set kind of it really kind of ruined a lot of what made jujitsu important. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The rule set did. | ||
| The number one thing that no one talks about in my career, which separates me, is the fact that when I put people in bottom position, no one ever stands up. | ||
| And if they do stand up, they've used so much energy standing up that it wasn't even worth the standup in the first place. | ||
| Like everyone that I fight knows by passing is so good, and they know my pins are so good. | ||
| Like they know that they if I get chess to chess and half guard and pass them, I'm gonna fetish them. | ||
| So everyone's like, I'm fucking getting up. | ||
| Like I spent like I fought Andre, I fought Yuri, I fought all these guys. | ||
| Like, no one everyone knows if I'm in bottom position, I'm gonna get my guard pass, and if I get my guard pass, I'm gonna get a finish. | ||
| So like I need to get up like my life depends on it. | ||
| And nobody even gets close. | ||
| And so, like, and and if they do it, sounds like bragging, but that's a hundred percent true. | ||
| Like, like when I fought Wagner, like you were there, like Wagner tried his absolute hardest to stand up when he was fresh, And just if you look at he fought everybody else, fought Craig, fought everyone else, he just kicks away, kicks in the hips, he fought MMA, kicks in the hips, stands up and he's back up. | ||
| And so it it doesn't allow you to keep pressure over time. | ||
| I just put him on bottom and then he just never got away. | ||
| And then the one time he did get away, it was so late in the match that he was so exhausted that I just let him up and then I just put him back in bottom position. | ||
| So no one talks about the fact that I can hold people down, but the number one issue with classical jiu-jitsu guys is that they never spend any time holding people down. | ||
| So when they first of all they can't take them down, and if they do get on top, the guy just stands up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and um also no striking at all. | ||
| So going into it with that, going into MMA with no ability to take a guy down, no real experience in holding guys down. | ||
| And then poor finish and poor finish. | ||
| So even if you even if you jump guard, for example, and you're in bottom because you never spent your time actually working on like submission finishing mechanics. | ||
| Right, this guy can't even finish him from bottom position. | ||
| Guys who win jujitsu tournaments that don't even attempt a submission. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They just get mount. | ||
| So if you're on top, which is unlikely because you can't take the guy down. | ||
| It's it's unlikely you're gonna hold top position. | ||
| And even if you are in bottom position, you're not dangerous enough to dangerous enough to actually finish the guy. | ||
| So it's like classical jiu-jitsu is just getting phased out, and we call it scrimmage wrestling. | ||
| Uh what the Dagastani guys are doing is is going to be phased in. | ||
| Like they just I like how someone was mocking you about scrimmage wrestling, and then it got used on it by Nikki. | ||
| Like, I'm not I'm not denying it's wrestling. | ||
| It's just a different kind of wrestling. | ||
| And if you look at every historical piece of information, like you look at Aaron Pico, took the guy down, he's an amazing, you know, classical American wrestler, couldn't hold him down. | ||
| Yeah, and then Hamza was like the next match. | ||
| He takes the guy down, rides in the whole, like had 23 minutes on top. | ||
| The only reason he didn't have like a full almost 25 minutes was because he got stood up like you know, midway through one of the rounds. | ||
| I think it was like 23 minutes of control time. | ||
| Like I'm not saying it's not wrestling, it's just a different kind of wrestling. | ||
| When you teach jujitsu, like when you start with somebody, how do you start from what is the what is the system? | ||
| How do you start? | ||
| Are they on the bottom first? | ||
| But wait, before you get to that, this the scrimmage wrestling thing, what I was getting to is like somebody was mocking that. | ||
| I was like, why are you mocking a term? | ||
| Like what are you trying to pretend he doesn't know what he's talking about? | ||
| Like seems crazy. | ||
| But then the exact same thing got done to him. | ||
| Yeah, correct. | ||
| He was he was like, Oh, like got done to him in the match with Nikki Rod. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| It's like everyone everyone just thinks you could just come in as a collegiate freestyle wrestler and dominate, and that's just not the way. | ||
| Like, there's there's so many things in wrestling that work perfectly, there's so many things that don't work at all. | ||
| There's so many things that don't make sense to do. | ||
| Like a fireman's carry. | ||
| Like you hit a fireman's carry, next thing you know, the guy's in a crucifix on you. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or he has your back or in your triangle. | ||
| Do you remember when Big Daddy Goodridge fought Paul Herrera? | ||
| Paul Herrera took him down, got him into fireman's carry, and Big Daddy Goodridge locked his legs up, locked his arm up, and elbowed him. | ||
| That was yeah, oh, I remember that. | ||
| It was fucking crazy. | ||
| So never do a fireman's carry that's a good one. | ||
| And it was back when there was it was here. | ||
| It is look at this. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| This is back when there's no tapping either. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Oh my god, I remember this. | ||
| He was out right away. | ||
| The referee should have stopped this 80 elbows ago. | ||
| I mean, he's dead. | ||
| And by the way, stop. | ||
| Bro, it's a little extra here. | ||
| But they added extra to it, did they add it? | ||
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| It's a loop. | ||
| But what is the actual number? | ||
| Let's see if we can find the actual just try find Big Daddy Goodridge. | ||
| Oh shit, we're watching Mauricio Rufi and St. Denis. | ||
| It's already started. | ||
| Well, these are nice. | ||
| Oh, Roofy just popped him with a jab. | ||
| These comedy mothership cigars are nice, Bubba. | ||
| Yeah, it's foundation cigars. | ||
| Shout out to them. | ||
| Okay, so now's this now. | ||
| This connection, like take down score is nothing. | ||
| Now can he actually hold him down from this position? | ||
| Well, Saint Denis is pretty good at holding guys down. | ||
| I mean, clearly not on your level of it, but he does have a very pressure. | ||
| And so you look like Ruffy does didn't even try, he just accepted bottom position. | ||
| So it was like there was like there's no like now he's trying to get up, but he's already guys got a big thing. | ||
| It's a great game plan by the Oh this is huge for him. | ||
| Full mount already. | ||
| He's going straight for the arm triangle. | ||
| He's going hard for it. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| And if if you look at the pace, oh my god, I think he's gonna get it. | ||
| It's called leche de padre. | ||
| Bro, look at does it? | ||
| That's what it's milk. | ||
| Really? | ||
| You just bury him in his go? | ||
| I thought that was when you smother a guy. | ||
| Yeah, that's what that's what it looks like you're doing. | ||
| Well, no, this is arm triangle. | ||
| He's he's isolating the right arm. | ||
| What do you do? | ||
| Come out in a single leg, double leg? | ||
| Up to a body. | ||
| Mauricio's almost up. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| He's got a locked triangle. | ||
| Oh, he's got his back now. | ||
| Now he's got power half, or he's gonna get taken up. | ||
| Jeez. | ||
| This is terrible for Roofy. | ||
| Oh, shit, he's too high. | ||
| He's done. | ||
| He should have gone power half. | ||
| Now he can stand up. | ||
| Just stand up, Bubba. | ||
| What did he do instead of power half? | ||
| What did he uh he just he stay he stayed with two hands over the shoulders, and then the guy just kind of misaligned the body? | ||
| Okay, now so see, like he had a takedown and he he did he couldn't hold them down. | ||
| Right, and now they're back at their feet and Roosevelt Roofy's fucking dangerous at a distance, dude. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Nice knee to the body. | ||
| He's dangerous at a distance and nice. | ||
| Do you know how mentally fatiguing it is to put a guy down and not be able to do any damage? | ||
| And then it's not just physical. | ||
| It's like it's like I put this guy down and then he fucking got up on me and I couldn't do anything to him. | ||
| He's like some special forces French guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What is his uh exact military like what did what his experience whatever their fucking Delta team is over there? | ||
| Is that what he is? | ||
| Oh, he's one of those guys. | ||
| Their version of it. | ||
| Yeah, but there's like French are no joke. | ||
| He's no this dude's no joke. | ||
| He's an intense motherfucker. | ||
| He was uh thanking America for helping France in World War II in one of his post fight speeches. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| Like I love America, you helped us in World War II. | ||
| Like, what's like what? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| This guy's about here. | ||
| So he's got his back again. | ||
| He's got him. | ||
| French Army special. | ||
| He's got him down again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So far, this is not a good round for Roofy. | ||
| So now we know about Roofy's grappling because what we've seen from him is just well, also Saint Denis is a beast. | ||
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He's a beast. | |
| He's a beast. | ||
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Now that full mount again, Hoofy can survive this. | |
| Arm triangle, arm triangle, trying to game plan by BDS. | ||
| Gordon, do you guys start with like traditional guard triangle or do you start? | ||
| So what what what kind of athlete am I trying to build? | ||
| Oh, it's like elite Brian Cowan stuff. | ||
| Brian Calvin. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If I'm if I'm trying to build an athlete from the ground up, yeah. | ||
| Um and I have time to work with him, I always start them in bottom position. | ||
| Right on his back bottom position is the hard is the hardest to learn. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Um most people start standing. | ||
| Standing is actually the last thing I teach them. | ||
| Really? | ||
| I start, yeah. | ||
| Because if you can get good submissions and good off balances from bottom position, uh good guard retention and good escapes, pin and submission escapes, those are the first things that I do. | ||
| So more guys asking you to come in their camp? | ||
| He's he's yelling at something. | ||
| He's complaining about something. | ||
| Roofy is complaining about something. | ||
| So he's holding the glove? | ||
| So he's holding something. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Uh he's holding shorts. | ||
| Hamzad asked me to train like uh so ago in Newport? | ||
| Uh no, he was in I was in Sweden. | ||
| I'm like, I'm not going to Sweden right now. | ||
| He does the camps in Newport now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not too bad for you. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I'd be pretty much. | ||
| Okay, so actually train hard, it'll be great. | ||
| He had his hands in his shorts. | ||
| Yeah, he can't be doing that. | ||
| He's holding on to the shorts, I think. | ||
| Is that what he's saying, Jeremy? | ||
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I can't hear it. | |
| Hopefully he's grabbing his dick. | ||
| Hopefully he's crab. | ||
| That was a fight once. | ||
| Uh bit with Big Daddy Goodrich as well. | ||
| He fought this dude the Pedro, and he reached his hand into the guy's junk and fucking crushes nuts. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yes, he did. | ||
| It was legal too. | ||
| In Brazil. | ||
| In Brazil, huh? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There was no rules back then. | ||
| He reached his hand and crushed the man's balls. | ||
| How bad do you want to win? | ||
| How bad do you want to win, bitch? | ||
| Oh god. | ||
| Is it true that uh is this just uh is this bullshit or when uh TD uh Drake is DuPless he had uh his finger in Kamzat's ass. | ||
| Is that true or comes out as a Ryan's on TikTok a lot? | ||
| I'm sorry, guys. | ||
| Excuse my fucking friends. | ||
| Okay, he's on the edit that out. | ||
| Fifty seconds left. | ||
| Oh, Roofy swinging. | ||
| But he's gotta be so exhausted now, and now he knows he can't get taken down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Never seen Roofy like this before, man. | ||
| This is interesting. | ||
| Well, I mean, you gotta think of the guys that son Denis fought too. | ||
| He just fought Dustin Porrier. | ||
| Oh, yeah, strength of schedule. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| St. Denise, way higher. | ||
| Hanato Moicano. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's fought some pretty elite guys. | ||
| He lost him my kind of right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He got beat up. | ||
| He does. | ||
| But you see, like even this, like when you're standing, there's so much less that has to go wrong for a good guy to get beaten by a guy who's not who's much lesser. | ||
| Like when you're grappling someone, so much has to go wrong in order to lose to the guy who's who's worse than you. | ||
| So like if he if he took him down in the first 30 seconds of the round and he remained in top position, like just riding him, there would have been like almost zero danger in the round, which is like what could be Ben Hamzad do. | ||
| Correct. | ||
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Right. | |
| Whereas in this guy, it's that last 50 seconds. | ||
| If you're here on the or you get knocked out. | ||
| Especially when you're tired. | ||
| That's the thing. | ||
| It's like you have to make choices. | ||
| Do I move now? | ||
| Am I too tired to explode out of the way? | ||
| I see him winding up. | ||
| Do I try a duck? | ||
| Like, what do I try? | ||
| You don't have that. | ||
| Like when Atama fought Dillion White, the in and out foot work. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Woo! | ||
| That like after something like that, that shit's gone. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you can't really get out of the way. | ||
| That's what he does. | ||
| St. Denise's banking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like let's draw even if I don't finish him, let's drain this fucking gas tank so his footwork's not as good, so he's not as dangerous on the feet. | ||
| But this is such a good test for Hoofy, because he really hasn't beat those high caliber guys yet. | ||
| It's such a good test. | ||
| Here's a real question. | ||
| Do you think that with guys like Marab and then Fluffy as well, but maybe to a slightly lesser extent? | ||
| Do you think what they're showing is that just like some people can do those 100 mile races, they're like Goggins and Cam Haynes does. | ||
| And that we think that a marathon is hard, but it's just because that's all you're trained for. | ||
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Correct. | |
| But guys like Cam do a marathon literally every day. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's just you gotta go past where you think the boundary is. | ||
| And a guy like Marab can keep that kind of pace up for five minutes. | ||
| Because he's in that 100 mile running. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Is he genetically gifted where he can do that? | ||
| Or is it just all mental? | ||
| He says not. | ||
| He says he used to smoke. | ||
| Well, he doesn't know any better. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| They say that like Prefontaine, those guys have uh harder bones in their feet and stuff like that. | ||
| Well, that's also from use though. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's from use. | ||
| That's the same kind of thing. | ||
| Yeah, you get that from kickboxers. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| So St. Denis, I'm sorry, I'm gonna say it. | ||
| His hands are down a lot of times. | ||
| He's close. | ||
| Oh, he just got elbowed hard. | ||
| He got elbowed hard. | ||
| Well, he's tired. | ||
| He gets reckless too. | ||
| He does get reckless. | ||
| Well, he's a very violent man. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| But here he got down again. | ||
| He's down again. | ||
| He's down to train. | ||
| He's got it. | ||
| He's right. | ||
| He's down to train. | ||
| Oh, Roofy reversed him. | ||
| Oh, this is huge. | ||
| That means he's tired. | ||
| So he's like that was that's what I was talking about scrimmaging. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like Roofy was just like I'm not accepting. | ||
| And every previous takedown, he was like, I'm accepting bottom position. | ||
| This time he was like, I'm not getting put on bottom. | ||
| And he just kept moving until he was in top position. | ||
| And now he's gonna let him stand up. | ||
| So it's like every time this happens, Ben Wall's in more and more trouble. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's just gotta be clean here and just don't get wild. | ||
| If Ben Wall gets his hands down, his his he's kicking with his hands down. | ||
| He's gonna get caught between these guys and a guy like Kabib. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yes. | ||
| Saint Denis tried to take him down in the first round and tried to finish him in the first round. | ||
| So he he had more some more submission attempts and more he worked towards submission a lot more than like a guy could like like a Khabib would. | ||
| Um but now he's a lot more tired. | ||
| Like Kabib and Hamzat spend the first like if it's a five-round fight, the first like two to three rounds just riding the guy. | ||
| Like there's no submission attempts. | ||
| They're the sole focus is keep the guy down, control him, make him carry body weight. | ||
| You know, see this is the thing. | ||
| If you get to like 155 pounds and you're a striker, you know, that is at the weight where like most of these guys can knock each other the fuck out. | ||
| Like if this guy fought Ilya Taporia, he'd get knocked the fuck out. | ||
| Start right and or he could knock Ilya the fuck out. | ||
| Like it's so tight when you're at like a championship level and you're you're that fast and hit that hard. | ||
| That's a wild game. | ||
| What what you're saying, Gordon, is like it's it's so important for people to hear because that is the clearest pathway to success. | ||
| Like complete control on the ground, it's the least amount of damage you take. | ||
| Right. | ||
| It's safest post-career. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Saint Denis, look at this. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
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That's not fun. | |
| He's got a lot of time. | ||
| How much time is this? | ||
| Two and a half minutes. | ||
| Oh, fuck that. | ||
| He's gonna pull the hand down. | ||
| If he pulls the hand down, he's gonna be able to do that. | ||
| Underneath his chin. | ||
| He's battling it. | ||
| Ooh, that is close though, Jack. | ||
| Oh, he's putting the squeeze on the jaw. | ||
| That's got that's just no. | ||
| If he starts turning belly up, oh he's out, he taps. | ||
| Oh, Benoit Saint Denis. | ||
| That is the biggest win of his career. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Oh, my friend. | ||
| Right in France. | ||
| Yeah, that's a huge win. | ||
| That is fucking. | ||
| And that's the first loss for the fighting nerds. | ||
| Yeah, and that's a big one, man. | ||
| That's a big one. | ||
| Roofy was the ninja. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, Roofy was the guy that hit Bobby Green with that wheel kick. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And Roofy was the one at this. | ||
| Yeah, he's he's gotta be feeling it right now. | ||
| I mean, that's his boy. | ||
| And then his and then the captain of the nerds is fighting the main event. | ||
| Benoit just started shooting at the ground. | ||
| He could have turned out because he was actually budged against the fence, so he wouldn't have been able to follow up. | ||
| That dude's a fucking beast. | ||
| Good for him. | ||
| Good for him. | ||
| Yeah, he's a beast. | ||
| And the thing is, it's like he didn't get deterred from his losses either. | ||
| You know, he gets beat up by Waikano, didn't get deterred, beat up by uh by Dustin Poirier. | ||
| He loses both those, then he wins that last one. | ||
| That last one he didn't look great. | ||
| Strong minded. | ||
| That's big for him. | ||
| I wonder this. | ||
| Well, maybe we don't know how good Roofy is, you know. | ||
| Yeah, well, we know I'm going to be a standing. | ||
| You know, he just got submitted. | ||
| Sending he was working on his wrestling a lot, I think, here. | ||
| Well, he's he started his background was judo initially. | ||
| Really good grappling. | ||
| You know, not fighting MMA that long. | ||
| He's only been fighting MMA for a few years. | ||
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Wow. | |
| Really? | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| And really didn't start striking until later. | ||
| God. | ||
| Yeah, he's kind of a freak, man. | ||
| I asked him in a post post-fight speech. | ||
| I said, like, how did you get so good so quick? | ||
| Like I thought maybe like he'd have some insight. | ||
| I don't think he understood what I was saying. | ||
| But that is uh that is kind of remarkable. | ||
| Uniquely violent man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| He's used to violence. | ||
| Yeah, it's a different like level of understanding of violence. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, what did you pulled up his background, Jamie? | ||
| What is his background? | ||
| Look at shooting people back. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| And cutting throats. | ||
| He's no joke. | ||
| I'll fuck you up. | ||
| First Marine Infantry Paratroopers Regiment, unit of the French Army Special Forces Command. | ||
| He served as a special French special air service operator in Maui. | ||
| During the war, and more generally in West Africa, fighting terrorist groups. | ||
| That's an elite motherfucker, right? | ||
| Fighting terrorists. | ||
| Boca Haram and stuff. | ||
| Terrorist groups in West Africa. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Rice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So that's why he's so fucking violent. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he and he's only started in uh combat sports. | ||
| Well, I think he had a ju uh judo career before that, though. | ||
| This is I think he did judo first, right? | ||
| When he was younger, didn't he? | ||
| Does it say anything before that? | ||
| Yeah, practiced judo. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| At a good level. | ||
| His mother was a teacher. | ||
| His father was a oh, French army officer practiced judo. | ||
| So he trained in judo in France and Germany at the age of eight. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, at the age of a age of eight, and learned a black belt. | ||
| Doesn't say at the age of eight, he got a black belt. | ||
| It's that he beginning at the age of eight. | ||
| And then he earned his black belt. | ||
| He played football in rugby in his youth. | ||
| So he's a beast. | ||
| I mean, fucking violent thing. | ||
| He's been moving his body high level for a long time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Violent dude. | ||
| Rugby. | ||
| Yeah, but he's also killing dudes in West Africa. | ||
| Killing dudes in West Africa. | ||
| If you're SAS guy like that, you were doing that. | ||
| Yeah, he looks like it. | ||
| Like when you talk to him. | ||
| It's a very different consideration. | ||
| Also, by the way, when you're in wartime like that, you're not as nervous. | ||
| You don't expend a lot of energy, you know, with the nerves beforehand. | ||
| You have more energy. | ||
| Well, it's like what you've seen is so much worse than what you're about to do, right? | ||
| You're just gonna go into a fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's probably the only job that you can do in you know, in actual combat. | ||
| Which gets you fighting the Jews. | ||
| You're like, that's whatever. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Name another job you can do where it's gonna get you ready like that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Everything's a step down. | ||
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Nothing. | |
| Nothing. | ||
| Yeah, that's the only thing that's gonna make you calm. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| Having survived war and then fighting in the Octa gun is a cake walk. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Especially to make it in that elite division. | ||
| Well, think about what Francis went through. | ||
| You know, think about what that guy went through. | ||
| Didn't he walk through the desert? | ||
| He walked through the desert like seven times, dude. | ||
| They kept arresting him and bringing him back to the desert. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| They try to they literally try to kill you. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They try to take you when they capture you in Morocco and then drop you off deep in the desert. | ||
| And then every time he'd get a ride back. | ||
| God. | ||
| He did it seven times. | ||
| Over like a long time, like over a year. | ||
| A year and a half or something, as a homeless person. | ||
| Yeah, there's not gonna be a good quiet in that guy. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| He's been spark the desert fuck face. | ||
| He was living outside with like a tarp, and then when he got to France, he told me he was living in a parking garage. | ||
| He was sleeping in a parking garage. | ||
| He can't compete. | ||
| Dude, how about his fucking luck, right? | ||
| His son passes away, which is horrible. | ||
| And then he's riding a motorcycle, hits a young lady, she passes away. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fucking terrible. | ||
| Horrible. | ||
| It's so scary. | ||
| But it's like think about what that guy's been through, and then like what what is a fight for him? | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But even he, after the Steep Amyochich fight, he was kind of fucked up in the head. | ||
| Hell yeah. | ||
| And like when he fought Derek Lewis, like barely engaged. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We thought that fight was gonna be Kros. | ||
| We were like, here we go. | ||
| We were like, this one's gonna be chaos. | ||
| I think my prediction was this won't go past two minutes. | ||
| Yeah, I thought it was gonna be hammered. | ||
| Like the fight. | ||
| That was the modern day crazy Houston Alexander and Kimbo. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was a very disappointing fight. | ||
| But then he came back after and started starching fools again. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Who did he knock out first? | ||
| Was it Junior or Kane? | ||
| Junior, right? | ||
| Junior Del Santos. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He beat he beat the brakes off a junior. | ||
| And then he KO'd Kane. | ||
| Well, Kane's leg. | ||
| And he KO's King. | ||
| Did he hit him first and then Kane's leg went, or did Kane's leg go and then get hit? | ||
| I think he hit him with an uppercut. | ||
| And his and Kane had some knee problems for quite a while. | ||
| You know, I mean, Kane's body kind of like was not strong enough for his mind. | ||
| Well, his uh his cage. | ||
| Wasn't his spine in a cage? | ||
| I think they had to do some crazy surgery on him. | ||
| But the most important thing he had a butt, yeah. | ||
| They posted a picture of him. | ||
| You know he has a gray beard. | ||
| He looks no good with him. | ||
| How long is he in prison for? | ||
| Supposed to get on, I want to say January. | ||
| It's crazy that they made him go to jail at all. | ||
| And any more than he already went. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's just because he was I mean, he shot the wrong guy, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He shot the stepdad who's also a creep, but he was firing the gun into the public places, like on the highway, so he's going into the bigger. | ||
| Can't really do that shit. | ||
| Can't have that. | ||
| So that's where they got him. | ||
| I can't have that with him. | ||
| Yeah, that's a bad idea. | ||
| You don't want to encourage that. | ||
| Also, if I'm Kane, I have his skill set. | ||
| Fuck a gun, dude. | ||
| Don't you want to hurt this dude with your bare hands? | ||
| I think he wanted to kill him. | ||
| Yeah, do it with your hands. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, at least plan it a little better. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like if he planned it a little better, they may he may have gotten off. | ||
| I think it was rage. | ||
| I think he found out and he just went, I'm gonna go kill this guy. | ||
| So yeah, for sure. | ||
| I mean, how could you not have that kind of thing? | ||
| 100% understand. | ||
| I I get it. | ||
| But he didn't kill the guy and now he's in jail. | ||
| So it's I know. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| And the guy got out before Kane did. | ||
| The guy was out in the street before Kane was. | ||
| Like if you're gonna kill the guy, fucking. | ||
| Put him in the same cell block as Kane. | ||
| Here's your new roommate. | ||
| Enjoy this. | ||
| Guy like that has to be in protective custody, right? | ||
| They'd have to hide him. | ||
| Yeah, you touch kids. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He touched kids, you get in jail. | ||
| They want to get you. | ||
| But even when he gets out, he's out now. | ||
| He has to go into hiding. | ||
| The street to get him. | ||
| Especially Kane. | ||
| The way he's connected. | ||
| Good luck, bud. | ||
| Enjoy the rest of your life, you fucking creep. | ||
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Yeah, it's a horrible, horrible, horrible story. | |
| I don't think he should ever get out, but so Kane back to his the physical issues. | ||
| Like he had like shoulder problems, knee problems, back problems, neck problems. | ||
| And it was just like that guy trained so hard. | ||
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All those boys did DC, Kabi, Brock Hole, Rock Hall, Josh Thompson. | |
| Like their team was a good thing. | ||
| They used to go full, too. | ||
| Well, they were so good too. | ||
| You know, such a young Makachev was there, like the monsters, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and if you just think about like Kane and his prime, though, like when he beat Nog. | ||
| Best heavyweight ever, I think. | ||
| One of them. | ||
| The the the real travesty is that we never got to see Kane versus Fedor in their prime. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was the real travesty. | ||
| That would have been the fight. | ||
| You know, that is, you know, that's that's the that's like the fight. | ||
| That's the one where you go, yeah, if there was one fight I could have made, yeah, that would have been it. | ||
| Kane in his prime versus Fedor in his prime. | ||
| Because their primes overlap, too. | ||
| Well, Fedor's kind of towards the end, though, but he's still good. | ||
| He was still pretty fucking good when Kane was when Kane was coming up and Kane became the champ. | ||
| Fedor was still fatal. | ||
| How would Fedor do now, you think? | ||
| But he's, you know, in the Oh, if he was in his young fader. | ||
| Young Feder's gonna fuck people up in any generation. | ||
| Right now, you look at the heavyweight division, like you have Aspenum, there's a power drop-off. | ||
| Like the heavyweight's never been. | ||
| However, we don't even know how good Aspinal is. | ||
| Like every fight he's had. | ||
| And the poor guy, the poor, he just can became champion at the wrong time. | ||
| There's just nothing for him to prove himself. | ||
| He's also so much bigger. | ||
| Like a guy like Aspinal is his frame is so much bigger than Fedor's, I think, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a big basketball. | ||
| He's a lot bigger. | ||
| 265 or something? | ||
| He's a lot bigger, but Phaedor was a special fighter. | ||
| He was special too. | ||
| You need to watch like his defense when he fought CroCop. | ||
| You ever see the Cocop? | ||
| They're both prime. | ||
| He was Throcock was throwing those power high kicks, and he would lift his knee all the way up here and catch it. | ||
| He was catching a lot of the body kicks on his knee. | ||
| He was his defense in that fight was amazing. | ||
| It was a somebody made a compilation of Fedor's defense that fight, like when Krokop hits him with a body kick, he takes out his his supporting leg. | ||
| He was so good in his and he could submit guys like that too. | ||
| He'd catch arm bars out of nowhere. | ||
| Like he had a fully multifaceted game. | ||
| So insane. | ||
| Probably the best so explosive too. | ||
| The best guy in the heavyweight division ever that could do that, that can transition from a knockout blow to a triangle choke or an arm bar, just like that. | ||
| He like when he catches arm bars, he would catch him. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Yes, they were so fast. | ||
| So fast. | ||
| He was probably the best heavyweight ever of that. | ||
| Don't you think? | ||
| Yeah, and the training. | ||
| The guy who could do both of those things, like lightning with lightning speed. | ||
| He was so good, dude. | ||
| Those Nogara fights, oh my god. | ||
| That was when Nogara was in his prime, son. | ||
| Nogara was in his prime, and Fedor just could not be denied. | ||
| His grounding pound was fucking terrifying. | ||
| The best. | ||
| Yeah, the best. | ||
| He was remembering he fought he fought um Orlovsky, who was training with Freddie Roach. | ||
| His boxing was great. | ||
| And then Fedor just caught him, man. | ||
| No, Orlovsky was winning that fight. | ||
| I knew he tried to fight. | ||
| I know, I know. | ||
| And he was like, fucking God. | ||
| Bro, he caught him in the air with a picture perfect right hand. | ||
| And he'd walk out like he just finished playing cards, Federer. | ||
| It wasn't even warmed up. | ||
| He'd just walk out like I just finished playing cards. | ||
| I'm gonna I'm gonna beat this guy. | ||
| Even in mid-battle, dude, his expression would never change. | ||
| Never change. | ||
| You've just seen that doing slow motion when Kevin Randleman's throwing him on his head and he's just like dead eyes. | ||
| Just relaxed midair. | ||
| He's all been here before. | ||
| Never freaked out. | ||
| And then within a minute, he can work. | ||
| And then isn't that weird his brother just wasn't as good? | ||
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No. | |
| His brother was a wild man. | ||
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But just not his bad. | |
| His brother had better tattoo. | ||
| It's better to be connected. | ||
| His brother had tattoo of the grim reaper holding the baby. | ||
| Yeah, yo. | ||
| Did you ever see that? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| That guy's in some dope. | ||
| Scary shit. | ||
| Yeah, there was a lot of dark tattoos that dude had. | ||
| Yeah, he was scary. | ||
| Suspect. | ||
| Remember when he fought James Thompson, James Thompson came out screwed. | ||
| James Thompson, an animal. | ||
| He came out fucking. | ||
| And El Emilian Echo just picked him apart. | ||
| Pop up. | ||
| There was another big Brazilian cat, too. | ||
| Remember that other dude that he flatlined in a similar way? | ||
| Big Brazilian guy who was a heavyweight. | ||
| Yeah, I know he's gonna be a good one. | ||
| I don't know his name, but yeah. | ||
| But he flatlined that guy too. | ||
| Watching what it takes. | ||
| What he does now. | ||
| I think he was in legal trouble. | ||
| Who is this? | ||
| Alexander Emilianeko. | ||
| Fedor's brother apparently is a wild fellow. | ||
| He got in some trouble. | ||
| He's a wild fella. | ||
| He served some time. | ||
| But I think Fedor is super close to a Putin. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| He could probably not be. | ||
| Yeah, he probably calls him and he's like, hey, my brother fucked up again. | ||
| Is there any way uh maybe? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Because uh that Chechstein guy was mad at him once. | ||
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Oh yeah, Kardiov. | |
| He was mad because Fedor criticized them having young kids fight each other. | ||
| Oh, interesting. | ||
| Did you see Hamza when he got his belt and flew back to Chechnya? | ||
| And he gave that warload the belt belt. | ||
| And he was wearing it. | ||
| Like he was like, thanks, dude. | ||
| And then kept it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that guy's been sanctioned by like more countries than any other ruler. | ||
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Like he's not uh he's kind of a wild guy to be friends with. | |
| Yeah, yeah, I would imagine. | ||
| Like the biggest mafia lords. | ||
| Did you ever see him in Halms out roll? | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh, yes, I had. | ||
| Yeah, I didn't know that. | ||
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I did. | |
| I did. | ||
| Bro, how about Hamzad and Sarukian rolling? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Sarukian. | ||
| Very Sarukian very good. | ||
| That's the guy that Taporia is gonna have all his all the problems with. | ||
| All the problems. | ||
| Yeah, Sarukian is. | ||
| It's his toughest fight. | ||
| That's his toughest fight. | ||
| Well, Sarukian will still be favored, though. | ||
| Really, really favorite? | ||
| No, I know he is. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Taporia will be. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| He's got two erasers. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's got two erasers. | ||
| And he grew up wrestling. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Sarukian can also strike though in his wrestling. | ||
| Oh, not like Topier, yeah. | ||
| His striking's pretty good. | ||
| His striking's good. | ||
| Not as good. | ||
| Nobody on this planet would say it's as good as Topier is. | ||
| I think I think we can get a problems. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Would you put your money on uh Taporia though in that fight? | ||
| Uh I wouldn't put money on that fight. | ||
| I'd say with Tapore had to listen, Tsuruki knocks people out. | ||
| He's very good striker. | ||
| But what Tapuria has is that weird power. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The same thing we were talking about Pereira, he's got that weird power. | ||
| He does get hit though. | ||
| But he's he does get hit, but he wants to get hit. | ||
| He wants to throw himself in there so he can get those counters off because he knows when his land so in that sense you haven't seen those kind of fights. | ||
| Like what he he stopped three legends in a row. | ||
| Legends, legends in a row. | ||
| Shot him off. | ||
| Max Holloway's never been knocked out. | ||
| It's one of the greatest three fighting. | ||
| Striking. | ||
| I think Sarukian's, I would I would probably say for Sarukian's wrestling will get the job done. | ||
| We're not talking about wrestling. | ||
| And it might be a boring fight. | ||
| We're not talking about wrestling, though. | ||
| Dude, to go from striking is to go from knocking out Volkonovsky to knocking out Max Holloway to knocking out Oliveira. | ||
| That is the greatest three fight win streak in the history of sports. | ||
| KOs, all flat lines. | ||
| That's different. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But Sarukian doesn't get hit a lot. | ||
| He's a really good wrestler. | ||
| His transition is big for the weight class. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Which is probably why they fucked up in the last one when he got pulled from the fight. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Because he's probably cutting too much weight. | ||
| But the knock on Saruka would be when he fought Charles Oliveira, who Topir just starched. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is if that was a five-round fight, he probably would have lost it. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| But Surgen's definitely as tough as that. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hit him twice. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| Like nobody's ever done that to Oliveira like that at 55. | ||
| The last time he got KO'd like that was Cub Swanson, probably. | ||
| Old school. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| There was a time where Charles Oliver was just not all in. | ||
| He just wasn't like fully focused. | ||
| He had like quit in him. | ||
| I thought once you show signs of quit, you're fucked. | ||
| He found it somewhere else. | ||
| He had found it. | ||
| Yeah, he found a very interesting like psychological study. | ||
| Most guys that are at that level that quit like that overtly, like don't make it. | ||
| It never comes back. | ||
| He's the one guy. | ||
| He turned it around. | ||
| And I held it against him forever. | ||
| I never picked him. | ||
| Once I know a guy that has quit in him, I'm like, I'm out. | ||
| I never picked him. | ||
| And then he kept proving me wrong. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, he's an extraordinary case. | ||
| Very unusual case. | ||
| So Sarukian and Taboria would be the fight. | ||
| But the thing is, like, I almost think the general public doesn't know enough about Saruk. | ||
| That's that's true. | ||
| I almost would say, like, listen, you fucked up, you didn't make weight. | ||
| You're probably a little too big, fella. | ||
| Um, why don't we give you one more contender? | ||
| They did that. | ||
| Put on a show. | ||
| They're giving him a fight. | ||
| Who they give him. | ||
| So they're not giving it. | ||
| I think it's Hooker. | ||
| That's a good one. | ||
| Oh, that's a good one. | ||
| That's a good one. | ||
| Is is uh that's a good one. | ||
| Who is Hooker's a dangerous guy? | ||
| Is this gonna be a five-rounder? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Who is Hooker? | ||
| Hooker would take into some D water. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That Hooker Poirier fight, that's an all-time class. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| That was a classic. | ||
| Five-round made of that. | ||
| Oh, there it is. | ||
| UFC Qatar. | ||
| Qatar's bringing that loot. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| What is Hooker ranked right now? | ||
| He's in the top ten, I believe. | ||
| What is uh Dan Hooker? | ||
| I'm actually kind of surprised at that fight. | ||
| What is Dan Hooker ranked? | ||
| Dan remembers he's another one of those dudes. | ||
| It's just like C TV. | ||
| He's a dog. | ||
| He just wants to fight. | ||
| He's a guy who do bare knuckle. | ||
| Yeah, he'll do anything. | ||
| Yeah, he's down for whatever. | ||
| He got the win over um scam rot. | ||
| That was a great fight. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was scheduled to fight Justin Gagey early this year before withdrawing due to hand injury. | ||
| Yeah, he hurt his hand, remember? | ||
| Pulled out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| He's a dog. | ||
| Dude, I watched that um Strickman fight with uh with uh Imov. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Rockin' sock and robots. | ||
| Strickland melts guys. | ||
| He did. | ||
| He puts a pace on guys. | ||
| I love the way he fights. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| He constantly pushed pressure on you and he's constantly got you moving backwards. | ||
| Hard to hit slips, you know, all that. | ||
| What Gordon is talking about with grappling, Strickland employs a lot of that same sort of strategy with the striking. | ||
| Like he keeps you backing up all the time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a there's a factor to it. | ||
| Obviously, you Pereira knocked him out. | ||
| He's more susceptible. | ||
| He's not in control of the situation when you have wild strikes coming your way. | ||
| But by always having you back up, you're gonna get way more tired. | ||
| Nobody runs backwards. | ||
| He's a pressure fighter. | ||
| Yeah, it's right in your head. | ||
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Yeah, it's weird. | |
| He's a pressure fighter, but he doesn't have the power. | ||
| You know, like he's a pressure fighter who creates volume. | ||
| But look at Nick Nick and Nate, Nick and Nate did the same thing. | ||
| Like they're not knocking guys out left and right, but they're just constantly walking you down. | ||
| And they have better cardio. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it's like the thing is, it's like all he has to do is just keep hitting you at 50%. | ||
| Yeah if he hits you a lot at 50%. | ||
| And really hard to hit, man. | ||
| That shoulder roll thing. | ||
| Yeah, I'm surprised he's not taken down more, but his takedown defense, he's way harder than that. | ||
| If you look at if you look at most of the champions, they have one thing that they're better than almost everybody else in the world at, and they're good sufficiently good at everything else. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Strickland's not better than anybody at anything. | ||
| Like he's not the best striker, he's not the best wrestler. | ||
| He's that, but he just has pressure. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like there's so much can be said for just walking a guy down and putting pressure now. | ||
| Obviously, like a guy like Pereira is used to it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Uh So he countered him as he was coming in. | ||
| But like for most guys, he just walks him down and puts pressure. | ||
| Like, dude, Khabib. | ||
| Does not be just like literally walks that guy. | ||
| So he hasn't even shuffle. | ||
| Like look at the Khabib versus Edson Barboza. | ||
| Like he knew that Edson wanted to keep him at range to kick him. | ||
| So he literally, he literally just walked at him. | ||
| So that Edson couldn't shuffle back fast enough, and he was 100% exhausted, like inside of a round or two. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is this is exciting. | ||
| It's very exciting. | ||
| I spent a lot of pressure on Imam Volve fighting in France. | ||
| Well, and plus you know if you put on a good performance, you can fight for the title. | ||
| Yeah, you're next. | ||
| Like Dana didn't commit because he's it's basically a four-man middleweight tournament. | ||
| So Dana's not committing. | ||
| So he's letting them put on a show. | ||
| He's saying who wants it more. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's a big one. | ||
| If you do it by decision, which most of these guys aren't finishers, these two aren't. | ||
| Well, him knocking out Adasanya like that was crazy. | ||
| I did not expect that. | ||
| I thought that was going to be a close fight. | ||
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That was tough. | |
| He's every bit of sixth three. | ||
| He's a big boy. | ||
| Did I watch the contender for the first time? | ||
| I never watched that. | ||
| Best fight showing it. | ||
| It's so great. | ||
| You've never seen it before? | ||
| I never have it Trumps Ultimate Fighters. | ||
| Did you see it? | ||
| My boy Jean-Paul Lebozneani uh got in there and his dad had been training him forever. | ||
| I know. | ||
| His dad had been training him since he was seven. | ||
| There there's a video of him doing it. | ||
| And and uh just to watch that kid. | ||
| He wanted to do everything else. | ||
| His dad goes, No, you're gonna you're gonna wrestle and you're gonna fight, and he made it to the UFC. | ||
| Fucking jujitsu's sick. | ||
| We'll see. | ||
| Well, this guy's coming in his own, you know. | ||
| It's like I think the Strickland fight taught him a lesson. | ||
| Yeah, because it takes a just put so much pressure on him, and he's got that he's got a weird style too, where he throws that teep from the front foot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Strickland is like constantly teeping you and constantly got you moving, and he moves back really well when punches are thrown on him, and he's got his hands like this. | ||
| I want to see Bobby's combat stricklin. | ||
| I'd love to see that fight. | ||
| What age do you think fighters peak typically? | ||
| Like looking at it. | ||
| It depends what weight class. | ||
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Yeah, that's right. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it's wild when they're like really lightweight and they're still in it, like Volkhodovsky. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like out, usually after 30 at the lighter weights. | ||
| What is this, Jamie? | ||
| Disaster. | ||
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That's it. | |
| Le Bozniani, right there. | ||
| So watch this. | ||
| You see what? | ||
| He won by knockout. | ||
| Yeah, he won by knockout, but check this out. | ||
| Jimmy, I'm gonna send you a video right now. | ||
| Yeah, this kid's special. | ||
| He threw that kick off of the punch like the kick and punch at the same time. | ||
| Watch that. | ||
| Jamie, I'm gonna send you something. | ||
| See that? | ||
| See how he did that? | ||
| Came over the top. | ||
| Yeah, no, he throws the jab and the yeah, he threw it over the top, but he did the jab and the kick at the same time. | ||
| Style bender does that a lot. | ||
| Yeah, and and he practiced such a slick move. | ||
| There's a video of him practicing that move with his dad at seven years old. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
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Boom! | |
| Oh my goodness. | ||
| That's nice. | ||
| Yeah, that contender series is awesome. | ||
| It's very good. | ||
| It's brilliant. | ||
| And look how many guys have come out of that and are now fighting in the UFC. | ||
| So many. | ||
| Dude, how about that UFC Paramount deal? | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| Great. | ||
| It's a lot of money. | ||
| Um, what is it, like seven billion dollars for seven years? | ||
| Uh no. | ||
| Is it seven billion? | ||
| Well, that's Jamie. | ||
| What are you doing, Brian? | ||
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I got it, Brian. | |
| Check this out. | ||
| You're in the middle of the channel. | ||
| You know, you don't have to walk over to Texas. | ||
| Yeah, don't you know his number? | ||
| I'm a kid, man. | ||
| Airdrop him or some shit. | ||
| Like, so you see this move? | ||
| What watch watch this? | ||
| Watch when he's a kid. | ||
| Look at this with his dad. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Oh, that's crazy. | ||
| Now watch this, ready? | ||
| He's doing his this is when he's in first grade. | ||
| Now boom! | ||
| Oh, that's crazy. | ||
| How cool is that? | ||
| Well, those guys that do have that like traditional karate background. | ||
| The the thing was his dad's a background. | ||
| Karate in particular, is that you're you're not really getting hurt and you're throwing a lot of kicks, and you learn leg dexterity. | ||
| And it's like especially like Taekwondo, you learn leg dexterity that regular people don't have. | ||
| It's like just how you're talking about like there's a level of cardio that you would need to run a marathon, and then you think, but that's about as good as anybody could ever get. | ||
| And then there's guys that come along 100 miles. | ||
| There's also that with what you're seeing with MMA with cardio and MMA. | ||
| But it's also that with everything. | ||
| It's that with like grappling with striking, with kicking, with everything. | ||
| We're used to like a certain level of it, but if there's the if elite like Taekwondo guys really figured out Muay Thai and then wrestling and grappling. | ||
| You're in trouble. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like these guys that can throw wild wheel kicks at you and spinning sidekicks to the body. | ||
| And it's their thing. | ||
| And they're the time is in trouble. | ||
| Because they've gotten way past the level that everybody else is at. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah, I think he rolled with you, didn't he? | ||
| He was like 17, though. | ||
| You probably don't remember. | ||
| But he was very complimentary, obviously. | ||
| His jujitsu. | ||
| Eddie Brought was told you not that kill. | ||
| That kid's jujitsu is so crazy, though. | ||
| And now he's in the UFC. | ||
| We have Gordon Ryan's Abu Dhabi belt right there. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Donated to the studio. | ||
| Look at that, son. | ||
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I guess. | |
| That's amazing. | ||
| Is someone out there, some doctor fix his tummy, please? | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| For real. | ||
| You have uh you have one and then um I'm waiting. | ||
| They have I'm waiting. | ||
| Like I'm gonna give Trump one. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| It's hilarious. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| Joe, how many people that it's gold? | ||
| I love that it's gold. | ||
| How many people are hitting you up for those White House tickets? | ||
| Oh, quite a few. | ||
| Hey. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How about your boys over here? | ||
| You probably won't pass any kind of test that you need to get in there. | ||
| No, we've been to the White House. | ||
| Chop and I have been to the White House. | ||
| Who invited you to the White House? | ||
| Some guy who was a back in the daddy who was a fan, but he was a secret service guy. | ||
| Oh wow. | ||
| Got us in there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was all up in there. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| All the rooms. | ||
| When Obama was weird. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When Obama was present? | ||
| That was that long ago. | ||
| That's why that was when Bush was dead. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| What is all this talk about them arresting Obama? | ||
| What is what is all this? | ||
| Silly. | ||
| Is it real? | ||
| No, it's not. | ||
| No, they're really gonna start doing that. | ||
| Going arrest informed press. | ||
| By the way, after arrest. | ||
| Bad idea. | ||
| Every one of them, that's a lot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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| That that that that warfare, that legal warfare. | ||
| Look at the size of Barlow. | ||
| He's 6'4. | ||
| It's gonna be a good fight, son. | ||
| He's a big boy. | ||
| Again, these guys are both 185. | ||
| Okay, this is crazy. | ||
| They're not 185. | ||
| These are 200 plus pound guys. | ||
| Him sucking weight is so hard for him. | ||
| Uh Barhalo. | ||
| Barhallio. | ||
| Yeah, but it looks like him. | ||
| He looks like a 200-pound guy. | ||
| Bahalio's also 32. | ||
| Is he 32? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think it was like a young kid. | ||
| Wow, Imavov is uh 20 something, 27. | ||
| 28, I think. | ||
| 29, maybe. | ||
| This is a good fight. | ||
| It's a good fight. | ||
| Very good fight. | ||
| Man. | ||
| Barlino is really, really explosive. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| Probably the better athlete. | ||
| I wonder how much it fucks with them watching Roofy get tapped right before. | ||
| That's why I was just thinking it can be good. | ||
| Your first loss with the nerds. | ||
| I know, and he's a good friend of yours. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Training partner. | ||
| And you all went through training camp for this night. | ||
| A little bit. | ||
| And he gets mud stomped. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And maybe you know how you go with him. | ||
| Mud stomped? | ||
| Well, you just get your shit pushed in, and you're like, oh, we just did an entire camp not to get taken down. | ||
| And then that guy, we didn't last a chance. | ||
| It's fucking MA. | ||
| There's definitely some doubt in that. | ||
| You're like, oh shit, our camp's not the best. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Bro is huge. | ||
| What was uh Imamov's uh kickboxing background before he became an MMA fighter? | ||
| He has a background in striking, right? | ||
| Isn't am I wrong? | ||
| No, he has a background in striking. | ||
| Because it doesn't grappling. | ||
| It certainly looks like it. | ||
| When I'm looking at the way I mean everything looks real like that stutter step that he did before he delivered that right hand, that's really high level, man. | ||
| And look at how he throws that front teep to the body. | ||
| He's fucking good, man. | ||
| And remember Strickland beat him at things Strickland took it on short notice. | ||
| Bro, Strickland puts that pressure on you. | ||
| I'm telling you. | ||
| And it's a different style. | ||
| It's a weird fucking style. | ||
| Strickling kind of broke him. | ||
| Yeah, he kind of broke him. | ||
| I think he just overwhelmed his cardio to the point where it became defensive. | ||
| That's what I would say. | ||
| Because Tricklin just keeps that pressure on it. | ||
| Look what he did to Izzy. | ||
| Same shit. | ||
| He keeps that pressure on you. | ||
| That see, that'd be a good fight, Frizzy. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I think Izzy wants that fight. | ||
| I think they're actually talking about that fight. | ||
| Strickland's uh uh suspensions up in November or something like that. | ||
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Anger management from jumping in the ring and punching somebody. | |
| I don't know if it's true, but I I heard I saw a thing on the internet. | ||
| It could be fake, but it also could very well be real that he uh got kicked out of anger management because he kept threatening to fight the teacher. | ||
| I think that was just that's just a meme. | ||
| Barhallio almost got the trip. | ||
| Yeah, almost got that trip. | ||
| But Imavov is no joke, man. | ||
| No joke, grappling too. | ||
| Very good defense, but standing up, he seems to have an advantage. | ||
| He's doing a really good job of keeping you on the fence. | ||
| Yeah, a little bit, right? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That was a guy that didn't get his flowers. | ||
| That was a guy who did not get his flowers. | ||
| Fucking kid. | ||
| Gagar Musasi was a fucking animal. | ||
| You know, he used to train with Fedor. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Remember with Sassi, we started the big dick energy rumor about him. | ||
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Yes. | |
| And then he his manager told me he was it. | ||
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Of course. | |
| Of course he loved it. | ||
| We're saying he probably has a big dick, and he probably does, man. | ||
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Sure. | |
| You don't wear hats like that. | ||
| So smart, man. | ||
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Very well read. | |
| Yeah, and very high fight IQ too, just intelligent in his approach to fighting, but ferocious. | ||
| But then he went to Bellator or Peter. | ||
| He put him on the shelf. | ||
| He was going to sue him to get out. | ||
| But he's too old now. | ||
| Like how old is he now? | ||
| It's fucked up. | ||
| He wastes like three years in there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| How old is uh Gagard Musasi now, Jamie? | ||
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54. | |
| Remember when he knocked out Wideman? | ||
| Fuck yeah. | ||
| Remember knocked out Jock Ray Sousa with the upcake? | ||
| But Susa then got one though. | ||
| What's that? | ||
| 40. | ||
| It's 40. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| It's over. | ||
| I mean, if you're cleaning. | ||
| Oh, oh, oh, nice shot. | ||
| You can fight in other organizations and keep the train kept up a road. | ||
| I remember when remember when Susa put him in that killating though? | ||
| It's just like Jock Ray just caught him in him. | ||
| It's like crazy. | ||
| Well, you know, Jock Ray is Jock Ray. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, he's a beast. | ||
| I can't believe that. | ||
| Did you see Strickland's uh tweet about Rampage's son? | ||
| He's like, we're both head to anger management. | ||
| Just one of us can have a felony on the record. | ||
| Or one of us is gonna be able to own a gun afterwards. | ||
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Ooh. | |
| It's a good fight, man. | ||
| Yeah, Bahalio's closing the distance now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is the interesting. | ||
| So there's a thing about him breaking when he fought Strickland, if you think he broke. | ||
| He melted, yeah. | ||
| Like, did he, but did he just run out of cardio or did he lose his enthusiasm? | ||
| He was giving as good as he was getting, though. | ||
| They were they were sucking it out to the last time. | ||
| But he broke him. | ||
| He broke him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, he certainly overwhelmed him. | ||
| He certainly overwhelmed them. | ||
| But you can't tell what like just the guy's from his face when he wants out. | ||
| It's also an intelligent thing. | ||
| It's an intelligence thing. | ||
| If you know that you don't have enough left. | ||
| Like here's a here's an example. | ||
| Last round of Strickland versus Adasanya. | ||
| Strickland's like, fuck it, come on. | ||
| Come on, he's coming towards him. | ||
| Is he gonna do? | ||
| Yeah, all right, let's do it. | ||
| Knock me out. | ||
| Like, fuck that. | ||
| Like you're already you're exhausted. | ||
| You get dropped in the first round. | ||
| You got you're losing the fight. | ||
| You know you're losing the fight. | ||
| Stay defensive, just get out of there. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You could say, oh, he broke him. | ||
| But isn't that just a smart move if you don't have anything left? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you can't do it, like you know you're too fucking tired to fight the guy off. | ||
| Are you supposed to what are you supposed to do? | ||
| Throw yourself into the fire? | ||
| I mean, you could try that. | ||
| That doesn't usually work. | ||
| How many guys put it in? | ||
| But the thing is like you want a guy, but you want a guy who just wants to fight to the end, too. | ||
| So it's like it's more entertaining. | ||
| I know, but it's like what do you what what do you favor? | ||
| Do you favor intelligence and tactics and live to fight another day? | ||
| Do you look at it in terms of an entire career? | ||
| Like if you just decide to throw down right there and you're exhausted and you know you're exhausted, and you only got a couple of seconds of haymakers in you, and then you get KO'd and flat line, you're at the jaw, you get your jaw wired shot at the hospital. | ||
| And you're out you're spending at least six months. | ||
| I love seeing fighters that don't get hit. | ||
| Like that that that skill, the ability to take less damage to me, is what now, as somebody who's such a fan of fighting, I that's what I love. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But then you have Max Halloway, lax round, and you have dust for you winning the fight, points at the ground, and the universe rewards him with a highlight real KO of just crazy. | ||
| Strikers will in general be bigger stars than grapplers. | ||
| Always. | ||
| But grapplers will in general be more successful. | ||
| Yeah, the have a higher winning percentage for sure. | ||
| But the stars are always strikers. | ||
| Always, always, always. | ||
| Look at Connor, look at Izzy. | ||
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Always. | |
| The biggest stars are always always. | ||
| Yeah, they put on that. | ||
| Well that's what the casuals, that's what they know. | ||
| Like, oh, he punches him, he not. | ||
| Oh man, I don't care who he was. | ||
| It's such a everybody's so talented now. | ||
| It's just crazy. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's it's really interesting, man. | ||
| You know, it's that way with everything. | ||
| It's that way with everything. | ||
| Because they're watching each other. | ||
| Even my son, uh my son at nine at nine years old, like you watch you watch these baseball players, you're like, these kids are fucking nine. | ||
| This is how good everybody is now? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because they specialize in it. | ||
| It's like singers. | ||
| They get to see what it looks like on YouTube. | ||
| I think that's a big thing. | ||
| I agree. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think everybody watching everybody is making everybody else way better. | ||
| Way more. | ||
| Because when we were coming up, it was like whatever the best kid in the neighborhood. | ||
| If I was the best kid, it's like, oh man, this is so good. | ||
| But I didn't see the kid in fucking Cuba playing. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And now the kids are privy to it. | ||
| They're like, oh shit. | ||
| We got people like Gordon Ryan breaking down Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| Like that didn't be a good thing. | ||
| There's this kid in jiu-jitsu, his name is uh his name is Daniel 220 Volt, I think it is on Instagram. | ||
| Dude, he's like fucking eight years old. | ||
| He's like shredded with an APAC. | ||
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And he's like flying arm bars and shit on hits. | |
| And it's tournaments, it's fucking insane. | ||
| So crazy. | ||
| He's got like 600,000 followers. | ||
| He's like nine years old. | ||
| That's a good one. | ||
| And he goes, he just goes in and just crushes. | ||
| But to that point, the kids are pushing themselves so much now and specializing in each sport, and they're getting fucking good. | ||
| But like Tommy John surgery's up 80% with kids under 13 years old. | ||
| Oh, they're doing it on purpose, just to give them give them an advantage. | ||
| Some of them, and then some of them because they're throwing so hard now. | ||
| This is kid. | ||
| Who's this? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| There's one. | ||
| Try to find the one where he's uh he's doing a flying armbar. | ||
| It's pretty recent. | ||
| It's up at the top. | ||
| Look how jacked he is in that one. | ||
| There's one. | ||
| Oh, look at this. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| We're missing out on a good fight. | ||
| Sorry, this is supposed to be a fight in the world. | ||
| The kid was never training. | ||
| We touched on a lot of subjects. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The thing about a guy like Imamov that I was going to get at with the cardio is much like Connor, like these guys that are real fast and explosive, that is like sprinting. | ||
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Oh, correct. | |
| That was a nice ride to the body. | ||
| We can't do both. | ||
| Like you're not gonna find a guy with crazy knockout power and great cards. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So the difference between him and Mirab is Rob just kind of mauls you. | ||
| Yeah, he's moving fast and powerful, but once he gets a shot or two off, he's shooting. | ||
| Shoot every time, no matter what. | ||
| And that pressure. | ||
| That pressure's gonna make his strikes even more effective because you never know when the strikes are coming. | ||
| You know, boxers used to do this thing they still do where they run for like an hour and a half and you keep your heart weight at a certain level, not super high. | ||
| And that's that's how you build new capillaries and stuff. | ||
| Lance Armstrong would do that too. | ||
| Yeah, they call what do they call it? | ||
| Zone two training. | ||
| Yeah, overtraining work. | ||
| Yeah, for the long time. | ||
| But boxers would do it for like literally run an hour and a half and stuff. | ||
| Yeah, UFC guys do that. | ||
| Really? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I think all elite athletes in all sports are doing stuff. | ||
| Yeah, all the secrets are. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, now the secrets. | ||
| Now it's a talent. | ||
| You get to this level of the talent. | ||
| Like the technical, when you look at how technical everybody is now, like this fight right now. | ||
| This is an awesome fight. | ||
| If these guys were just kickboxers, this was would be an awesome. | ||
| This is like a high level fight. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And they're not they're their cardio's great. | ||
| Like, look at this. | ||
| They're both still early. | ||
| It's the second round. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's another lot of wrestling. | ||
| Very smart, Chale Sunden quote. | ||
| He was saying that no one can fight full blast for 25 minutes. | ||
| It's just too long. | ||
| Fighting. | ||
| Well, Mirabics that differ. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I was going to get to. | ||
| It's like, okay, but isn't that like no one can if you run a marathon, you will die. | ||
| I'll tell you right now, you own 26 miles. | ||
| Your kidneys will dysfunction. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| You will bleed out of your pancreas, and you will die. | ||
| There's people that'll tell you that, right? | ||
| Cam Hanes ran 220 miles or something like that. | ||
| More. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's run more. | ||
| I think the Bigfoot 240 is 238. | ||
| I hung with him in Eugene. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Oh, right hand back. | ||
| Oh, they both landed good shots there. | ||
| Oh, Imovov. | ||
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Dude, this is good. | |
| How do you score this fight? | ||
| I didn't even fucking know. | ||
| We barely pay attention. | ||
| We're watching little kids strangle each other. | ||
| We were watching little kids do armbars. | ||
| I think we should go back to the vaccines. | ||
| Let's get back to that. | ||
| I knew we were going to touch on it. | ||
| When I was a kid, you know, when martial arts was on television, it was on TV, like maybe like PKA karate would be on TV. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know, remember those days, like on ESPN. | ||
| Like maybe like once a month on a Saturday, you'd watch two dudes in karate pants throw bad kicks at each other. | ||
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Yep. | |
| Yep. | ||
| Imagine like kids growing up and seeing this now. | ||
| I know. | ||
| From the time they're like babies. | ||
| They're seeing elite level MMA. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Elite level grappling, striking. | ||
| And then if they're like become fans and they get crazy, then they get fight pass. | ||
| They start watching UFC Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
| You know what the big difference now is? | ||
| There's the UFC video game. | ||
| So like I learned sports through video games. | ||
| Me and my brother play Madden or Tech Mobile, so I knew everything about football, the rules, everything. | ||
| All the players, but now they have the UFC game. | ||
| So my kids like know who Hamzad is. | ||
| Not when he fights, you know, from the video game. | ||
| So when they see him like, oh, there's Hamzai, because they pick him all the time in the game. | ||
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That's great. | |
| And they know to use his wrestling. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
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Wow. | |
| But that makes sense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I've I played like I don't know, ten years ago. | ||
| I played like the first UFC video game. | ||
| And I would just get so fucking mad. | ||
| Because I like couldn't do the moves on the ground that I know how to do. | ||
| I'm like, fucking what's the board of the buttons? | ||
| That was a nice right hand. | ||
| Yeah, it was. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| That was good right hand back by Bahani. | ||
| It's a good fight. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| I played. | ||
| Um they they've never figured out a way. | ||
| There's probably not a way until they get like real something that can like really change your actual uh experience, like what you're seeing, where they could make uh a virtual reality game with grappling. | ||
| But you can with striking, at least with boxing, yeah. | ||
| They have those it's fucking good, dude. | ||
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It's good. | |
| It's I'm dripping and swinging. | ||
| It's competitive. | ||
| Like this thing's coming at you, throwing punches at you. | ||
| You'd like it, Brian. | ||
| You look ridiculous, but yeah. | ||
| You look ridiculous. | ||
| I've done it. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| Yeah, but you you hold your gloves the wrong way, unfortunately, because if you punch normal, like this hack it, the gloves are like upside down. | ||
| But it's a workout. | ||
| That's a real workout. | ||
| Oh, he heard him. | ||
| He heard him. | ||
| He heard him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Snapped his head back. | ||
| Oh, now he's seeing blood. | ||
| Ah, body shot, nice. | ||
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Oh shit. | |
| Bro, Imov looks good. | ||
| Yeah, he does. | ||
| He does. | ||
| Yeah, he does. | ||
| Bohalio looks like he's recovered though. | ||
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He's he's getting sturdy. | |
| He's getting touched. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's getting touched. | ||
| And I just don't think either of these guys beat Hamza. | ||
| Yeah, they gotta deal with that whole wrestling thing. | ||
| Good luck with that. | ||
| Good luck to everybody. | ||
| That's a really hard puzzle to solve. | ||
| I think for a guy like Imavov too, what we're seeing is this version of him that learned a lot from the Strickland fight. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I mean, if a guy like that. | ||
| We got knee in the balls. | ||
| Did he? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think a guy like that goes through a loss like that and is like, okay, I gotta up my cardio. | ||
| I gotta up my pace. | ||
| I gotta not let people push me around. | ||
| I gotta learn from that. | ||
| I didn't expect that. | ||
| If you see strict on the outside, you don't you don't know. | ||
| And that's what I think that's where fighters make their biggest growth. | ||
| Either they make so much growth and get so much better and become contenders, or they go the fucking opposite. | ||
| Right. | ||
| That's why I'm hoping happens with Bo Nickel. | ||
| If I have to watch him fucking strike again, I'm gonna freak the fuck out. | ||
| Dude, use your goddamn grappling, man. | ||
| Get with someone to help you with your grappling. | ||
| They they they put him in there fast too. | ||
| Like they super fast. | ||
| Like RDR is a few years. | ||
| It's the UFC. | ||
| It's the UFC, baby. | ||
| But that's the thing that the like Ed Swar says it. | ||
| Like if you get if you go to the UFC, be ready to fight anybody they offer you. | ||
| Don't say no to anybody. | ||
| Otherwise, don't come. | ||
| But is that smart? | ||
| If you're developing a fighter. | ||
| Makes no sense. | ||
| It's not really smart. | ||
| But the thing is, like some guys can pull it off like John, right? | ||
| So John did it. | ||
| You know, I remember John against the standard Gustafson or um Bonner. | ||
| Um no uh Goosmao, like one of his first fights. | ||
| And I I remember thinking, like, where is this guy coming from? | ||
| Like, this is crazy. | ||
| This guy is so good. | ||
| Well, when you saw him against Jake O'Brien. | ||
| Yeah, Jesus Christ. | ||
| Boom. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, bro, he was he was something special. | ||
| So that guy got thrown right into the fire. | ||
| Twenty-two years old fight Shogun, you know, in New Jersey, wins the title. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| But you're in the big leagues. | ||
| But he's a freak. | ||
| Most guys, if you were raising them and training them, you would you you know if you were raising them through the career, you'd be like, we need to talk to you like box. | ||
| We need to test you against the real stuff. | ||
| But they they've done that with with Patty Pimlet now. | ||
| They're doing that, they've done well with him. | ||
| They did they do well with Sugar Sean O'Malley because they I think the UFC's learned like with Darren Tilt, such a talent. | ||
| Look at what he's doing now. | ||
| They pushed him way too fast. | ||
| Way too fucking fast. | ||
| And it fucks these guys up. | ||
| Bro, Till can fucking strike. | ||
| He can crack, man. | ||
| He's made a career for himself. | ||
| He can strike. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that uh knockout of Luke Rock Hall is crazy. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| I think the UFC did learn, but the UFC can only do so much. | ||
| They can only do so much, and the Sugar Sean, they go, All right, here's Peter Young. | ||
| I think Darren had knee problems too. | ||
| I think that's part of the thing. | ||
| Like he had so much. | ||
| He wanted he asked for his release so he could get on that Osai E and get his injuries and heal up. | ||
| Uh that makes sense. | ||
| He's like, I can't do this because they're testing me all the time. | ||
| Release me. | ||
| They didn't cut him. | ||
| He asked for his release. | ||
| Most people think he was cut, he asked for his release. | ||
| Ah, that makes sense. | ||
| And now he's just starching dudes outside the UFC. | ||
| Bro, he looks so good against Rockhold. | ||
| I'm like, this guy might have a career as a legitimate boxer. | ||
| Because he started off as a Muay Thai guy. | ||
| He actually had some boxing, some boxing bouts too. | ||
| Yeah, he's good, man. | ||
| He's fucking good. | ||
| You guys are missing out. | ||
| These guys are any grill, right? | ||
| I know we are missing it. | ||
| They're at mid distance here, just banging it out. | ||
| Great defense. | ||
| How the defense is outstanding, man. | ||
| I just think this is great. | ||
| I just think Hamzat eats these guys. | ||
| Well he takes them down. | ||
| He takes him down. | ||
| That that that if you're that close to him. | ||
| He finishes both of them. | ||
| It just is what it is. | ||
| You think so? | ||
| That's it. | ||
| Bro, he looks good. | ||
| But it's the difference in like his feints, like as he's moving in, it's very everything's very precise. | ||
| Very much. | ||
| He does I like that move. | ||
| Ooh, that's nice. | ||
| Ah, I pose. | ||
| You like his footwork, right? | ||
| Joe's type fun. | ||
| You always like it. | ||
| He's got this stutter step that he does when he's coming in where you think he's coming in, then you relax a second. | ||
| He did he like he po lulls you to sleep a little bit. | ||
| Yeah, it's high level. | ||
| This kid is a stud. | ||
| Oh, that sucks. | ||
| See, this is where you're like, let that time run, baby. | ||
| Let's get this lung capacity back. | ||
| Let's slow this heart rate down. | ||
| Let him boo. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| Right? | ||
| If you're in his corner. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah, let him boo. | ||
| Five. | ||
| Let him boo. | ||
| Let him boo. | ||
| No one ever takes a full five. | ||
| Ever. | ||
| It's never been done. | ||
| Really? | ||
| It's never been done. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| No one's taking the full five. | ||
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Wow. | |
| It's a lot of pressure. | ||
| Dude, five minutes was a long time when you're in there to fucking say. | ||
| But plus the crowd, like I I've been kicked in the nuts by Gonzaga. | ||
| I uh poked in the eye by Krokop. | ||
| That's fine. | ||
| And you think you want the five minutes, and the crowd's like, fuck yeah. | ||
| Like, okay, I'm good. | ||
| No, I'm fine. | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| And you're not. | ||
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Oh my god. | |
| God, these guys are evenly matched. | ||
| That's a pretty deep shot. | ||
| Yeah, it was. | ||
| They're so bad. | ||
| Yeah, he didn't he didn't he got in well, but he didn't fully commit to it. | ||
| And we are only in round three of a five-round fight. | ||
| He doesn't want his gas. | ||
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He doesn't want his gas. | |
| I really don't know how I'd score this at this point. | ||
| I've been watching it. | ||
| From the small fraction I've seen Immova's up two rounds. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I th I thought he definitely won that last round. | ||
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Yes. | |
| He's landing the more effective strikes. | ||
| But again, you ain't getting a title shot against Hamzat fighting like this. | ||
| It's just the it's not the way you're talking about it. | ||
| It depends on how it ends. | ||
| Yeah, correct. | ||
| Who's RDR fighting again? | ||
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Well, Fluffy Hernandez. | |
| Oh, oh, there you go. | ||
| He's touched. | ||
| And this is where and again, who knows, Joe? | ||
| You you know, you're you're the expert. | ||
| But when you said RDR's the best matchup for Hamzat, I think it's his easiest. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think he knocks him out cold. | ||
| Oh, standing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't think he bothered. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| He's been knocked out before. | ||
| He got dropped by Whitaker. | ||
| And the difference in between his stand-up versus Hamzat's standup is pretty significant. | ||
| Also, the the fact that RDR will be concerned about the takedown. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Means that he's going to be timid to really open up standing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like if you if you watch what Hamzat does to those guys, like those stripes. | ||
| The second he does start to get comfortable standing is when Hamzak put him down. | ||
| That Mur shot fight. | ||
| He went whoop. | ||
| BAM. | ||
| Yeah, when he knows he's got his strike strike, he's strike. | ||
| He can strike. | ||
| It's clean. | ||
| He's fast. | ||
| And he loves to strike, like even against DDP. | ||
| He's like, let me fucking light this guy up. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Srukens, like no, no, no. | ||
| Just keep doing what you're doing, dude. | ||
| Let's get to check and get it the fuck out of here. | ||
| But he's getting all this criticism from the fan base. | ||
| You're boring, boring champion. | ||
| He's like, uh I'm boring? | ||
| Hansot? | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Watch this. | ||
| And RDRs are like, yeah, let's do it. | ||
| Pressure on him to stay winning, though, too. | ||
| You know. | ||
| He has the pedigree to do it. | ||
| Yeah, he does. | ||
| I mean, once you're champion, that's the most important thing. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Just keep winning. | ||
| Now you're making real money. | ||
| And I'm curious what the UFC is going to do with the payout, because his pay-per-view points before, and now that's gone. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Do you think they do it based on how many people watch? | ||
| That would be that's weird, right? | ||
| But that's the best way to do it. | ||
| Right? | ||
| So it's like ratings on a TV show. | ||
| If you got friends' ratings, you get a lot of money. | ||
| You get a percentage of that ad revenue. | ||
| I don't know wha how you would do it. | ||
| I It's way above my pay grade. | ||
| I don't know how you would do it, but I would imagine something like that would be reasonable. | ||
| Like the the idea is that like if more money is being acquired by the company, if they're making more money now, it would be great if the fighters get paid more money. | ||
| That just makes sense. | ||
| Oh and I think the UFC is gonna do that. | ||
| They're gonna do it. | ||
| Even if the UFC doubled everybody's pay, they're still only putting out 50% of overall pay. | ||
| So for the UFC, it's a win-win. | ||
| They're always winning this. | ||
| Barrow is more busy with this, man. | ||
| He's way more busy. | ||
| He looks good in this round. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And the last one. | ||
| That's the thing, it's like these rounds, they you know, this is only a minute in, and this is the fourth. | ||
| Yeah, and he's got a lot of fighting left to go. | ||
| And Barrow's been busy. | ||
| But Joe, you'll hear you'll hear guys argue fighter pay, and they compare it to the NFL and MBA, and they go, it should be 50-50. | ||
| And I I don't agree with that. | ||
| Because any league that's ever done above what the UFC's done, they've they're all out of business. | ||
| There's only one promotion ever in the history of fighting. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That makes a profit to the UFC. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's not the NFL. | ||
| It's not the NBA. | ||
| It's different. | ||
| So it's it's hard to argue that they should do it any different. | ||
| Again, even if they doubled everybody's pay, it's still only 15% of profit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They can do it. | ||
| It's nothing. | ||
| And you can always fight somewhere else. | ||
| That's a tricky one. | ||
| You could. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You could. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good. | ||
| That's a good argument. | ||
| But then it's like if you want to look at your overall career, like what your potential for stardom is. | ||
| There's no question. | ||
| If you go to the leak guys that got paid really well in the PFL that nobody knows who they are. | ||
| And then maybe they made more money than the UFC, but they won't get the same kind of sponsors. | ||
| They won't get the same. | ||
| It's not even closer. | ||
| You're basically you went from the NFL to CFL. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I I mean I I I see both sides, but at the end of the day, if you want to make Connor money, do Connor shit. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| Oh, oh, Bohalio just caught him with a right hook. | ||
| Oh, oh boy. | ||
| Damn, Immoves back though. | ||
| Oh, these dudes are throwing down. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| These dudes are throwing down. | ||
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God. | |
| Excellent. | ||
| Hollyo's. | ||
| His his defense, bro. | ||
| He's such a high level fight. | ||
| Defense. | ||
| They're both their defense is really good. | ||
| Really good. | ||
| They're just strictly boxing, basically, right now. | ||
| Yeah, not a whole lot of kicks, right? | ||
| No. | ||
| Too close. | ||
| But also, neither guy can get the other down. | ||
| They've tried. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's also tiring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Imagel was throwing some kicks earlier. | ||
| He threw a lot of front kicks to the body, too. | ||
| They keep tying up like this, but there's no like real shots, you know. | ||
| Right, they're just grappling against cage. | ||
| Getting rest. | ||
| Both have great cardio. | ||
| Exhaust. | ||
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Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. | |
| Oh. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Damn, that was nice one. | ||
| That connected. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| Somebody's going to get this. | ||
| They're open up now. | ||
| Oh, these boys are swinging. | ||
| This is they're very close to getting cracked. | ||
| Each one of those punches is missing by an inch. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| God. | ||
| This is when it's the most terrifying. | ||
| If like a guy has a giant advantage when you're like deep into the fourth. | ||
|
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Oh, okay. | |
| And you're exhausted and he's got a giant strike of the advantage. | ||
| He just got caught again. | ||
| And maybe you tried taking him down and it didn't work out. | ||
| Imov was born in Dagestan, but then moved to France. | ||
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Is that how his French citizenship? | |
| Okay, that's a long ass time. | ||
| From when he's not, yeah, but that's enough. | ||
| He got the soul of the country and his bones. | ||
| Culture of work. | ||
| Ethic. | ||
| Well, it's like what a history of combat sports, man. | ||
| Dagestan? | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| It's not a big place. | ||
| I mean, Izerbaijan. | ||
| Mm-hmm. | ||
| Um Armenians, but fighters. | ||
| Fight wrestling and boxing. | ||
| Wrestling, kickboxing, MMA. | ||
| Huge part of the culture. | ||
| Same with Azerbaijan, same with Dagger's. | ||
| I still love Armenians back in LA. | ||
| They were real men. | ||
| They're great. | ||
| They were men. | ||
| Did you ever see in this like probably two years ago in LA, they tried bringing like the trans shit into Armenian district? | ||
| Did you see what happened? | ||
| Do you see all the hairy Army? | ||
| Just a line of G wagons show up to the school. | ||
| Just close G wagons. | ||
| They don't fucking enjoy it. | ||
| Armenians aren't here in a pillow. | ||
| They riot it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They would like, no, this ain't what happened. | ||
| Nah, not with our kids. | ||
| School board, but oh, our bad. | ||
| Yeah, bitch. | ||
| Good luck with that. | ||
| Don't fuck with the Armenians. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're tight. | ||
| They're a tight group. | ||
| Tight group. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Had to be. | ||
| Yeah, they tried bringing in like the safe rooms in our means. | ||
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Oh! | |
| Oh! | ||
| Just caught him with a nice left hook and a right hand. | ||
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God, they're a couple rugged fucks. | |
| Their faces look pretty clean. | ||
| Barrio's a little more beat up. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Kidding me right now. | ||
| Imagine, but imagine how much of time. | ||
| Like, imagine how much time this takes off your fighting career versus if they just grappled the whole fight. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Well, not just your fighting career, man. | ||
| Your actual. | ||
| Yeah, your brain. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, this is a car accident. | ||
| When you think about the kind of pressure that this fight puts on your just every thing your lungs, your heart, your brain, your bones. | ||
| But what a thing, right? | ||
| But you're not even considering the eight weeks in camp. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You're going in the fight's just beat up. | ||
| The camp fucks you up. | ||
| You have if you have hard enough training partners, you're getting fucked up in camp. | ||
| What was the worst injury you ever went into a fight with? | ||
| I got knocked out three days before I fought Nogero. | ||
| Oh my gosh. | ||
| And I got knocked out four days before I fought Rothwell. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Uh Shane Carwin, sorry. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That is so irresponsive. | ||
| I would watch him spar these giants, and they would go full, and I was just like so horrified. | ||
| And you didn't even warm up. | ||
| You guys would just start banging. | ||
| I was like, that's so ridiculous. | ||
| He literally wouldn't warm up. | ||
| I'm not kidding. | ||
| That's so ridiculous to fight three three days after being KO'd. | ||
| We just didn't know any better. | ||
| And then people like, oh, Shop doesn't have a chin. | ||
| It's like, yeah, yes and no. | ||
| Fuck you, yeah. | ||
| I got knocked out by Carwin right before this. | ||
| You had your fucking nose shattered by Crow Cop. | ||
| It's just such a nutty sport, man. | ||
| Yeah, it is. | ||
| Last round. | ||
| It's also the best sport. | ||
| It's the best sport. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, it's everything. | ||
| The thing is sparring in practice. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| It's everything. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It requires everything, that's for sure. | ||
| Well, the thing is, it's like it transcends all languages, cultures, everything. | ||
| Everybody can watch this and know exactly what's happening. | ||
| But also to your point, Joe, you're watching this. | ||
| You're knowing these guys are taking years off their lives. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Like that's what you're dealing with. | ||
| I love when people say horseback riding uses every muscle in your body. | ||
| Like there's some fights, like Justin Gagey, Tony Ferguson, that are hard to watch. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Right? | ||
| It's hard to watch. | ||
| That's horrible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, it's a good thing. | ||
| That's also how this game goes. | ||
| It's how the game goes. | ||
| He's tough. | ||
| He didn't want to quit. | ||
| He was trying to fight to the bitter end. | ||
| Um, fucking nice one. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| That's the ultimate example. | ||
| Great example. | ||
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That's like that's also like that's that that's like you lost five years of your blank off that fight. | |
| Boxing they would stop for. | ||
| That's the name of the fucking game. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| But it's like when it's expressed that purely. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like something special to watch. | ||
| I mean, it's a horrifically violent fight. | ||
| The two fights that one was the Ferguson Gaiche fight and the other was uh the Ortega Olofski uh Volkonovsky fight. | ||
| That was awful. | ||
| I would have stopped that way earlier. | ||
| We knew who the winner was. | ||
| There's a few fights where you just go, oh, I wish this guy would just stop. | ||
| Just the corner would say this isn't enough. | ||
| That's when your corner has to throw in the towel because fighters are too tough for the fucking Frankie and Gray Manor. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| But he won. | ||
| But imagine if it's a woman towel. | ||
| You're still in the towel, then he fucking loses. | ||
| So in his prime, Frankie Edgar was a fucking durable dude. | ||
| And the thing about him was he was a real 155. | ||
| He wasn't sucked weight. | ||
| An actual 55. | ||
| He actually weighed 155. | ||
| He's beaten these dudes who are cutting crazy weight. | ||
| Didn't he fight 45? | ||
| He did eventually later, yeah. | ||
| And then he fought 35. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| He's about to fight bare knuckle, right? | ||
| He's getting a million bucks, though. | ||
| Is he really? | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| For real? | ||
| For real? | ||
|
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For real. | |
| Damn. | ||
| I get it. | ||
| Poked again. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Fuck yeah, I get it. | ||
| Three, three two-minute rounds. | ||
| Fucking. | ||
| You got poked in the eye again. | ||
| Barhallio got poked in the room. | ||
| You might have to give him a point. | ||
| He's fighting Jimmy Rivera, who's no punk, but million bucks, they're gonna give you a good matchup. | ||
| Jamie Rivera was good in the UFC. | ||
| He was on my face. | ||
| Solid striker. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like very compact. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Fred. | ||
| Dude. | ||
| Needing the balls, poked twice. | ||
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Fuck. | |
| He's gonna give him a point. | ||
| Yeah, sometimes I think I have a problem because I watch every fight. | ||
| Pretty limbs up. | ||
| I watch every fight. | ||
| Then I'll watch BYB, Backyard Brawling. | ||
| I'll watch BKFC. | ||
| Uh whatever fight, I'll I'll just I'd watch all the things. | ||
| So you think you have a problem because you like it? | ||
| I can't get enough of it. | ||
| We're all watching it right now. | ||
| We're having fun. | ||
| Like, why would that be bad? | ||
| Yeah, but like I'll go home and watch the pre-lambs and shit. | ||
| I probably will too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's a few fighters on the prelims that I'm I'd like to check out. | ||
| And then I also like to watch some of the fights that I was talking through. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| Yeah, you you haven't out to watch the floor. | ||
| You haven't lost your enthusiasm for watching fights in ever. | ||
| You know, Mike Harry, Jeremy Steve Stevens. | ||
| Fucking take my money. | ||
| Mike's that is gonna be crazy. | ||
| It's tough to watch the chicks turn each other into a pole. | ||
| I don't like it. | ||
| Especially when Paige Van Ant was fighting. | ||
| I'm like, please don't. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Save your face, girl. | ||
| When they're ugly, it's fucked up the same. | ||
| Oh Hollywood just cracked him and oh bro. | ||
| Bro, these guys. | ||
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Oh my clip. | |
| Watch your fingers, bro. | ||
| He's gotta watch his fucking fingers, man. | ||
| Annihilate. | ||
| So what is he doing? | ||
| Is he sticking his hands forward to my body? | ||
| Every time he comes through, he comes in with his fingers. | ||
| That's a big fucking thing. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| He's got his he's poking his face. | ||
| Yeah, you can't do that. | ||
| Oh my god, he's totally doing it. | ||
| No, it's a big problem because it fucks your whole rhythm up and everything else. | ||
| Also, and then you can take advantage of it. | ||
| Bro, he's doing it again. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's also a way to become world champion. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| He keeps he keeps getting to body locks and unlocking locks his handle. | ||
| And he lets go. | ||
| See how the mouse feels some kind of danger. | ||
| Now he's got proper shots. | ||
| Barhallo's worrying about those fucking fingers. | ||
| He like shoots a shitty shot. | ||
| And then let's go. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| I know, it's very strange. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Like a takedown would be big. | ||
| Huge. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But it is kind of wind weird that Goddard isn't like saying anything while he's extending his face. | ||
| He's literally not supposed to do that. | ||
| I know. | ||
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That's I mean, what is the law? | |
| I think that is the rule. | ||
| I can't have his fists. | ||
| Can't be doing this when people are trying to jump and you can't extend. | ||
| He can't go out like this and you're up. | ||
| Nope. | ||
| No, fuck. | ||
| Can't extend any fingers now. | ||
| Can you do this? | ||
| Because now every time you go in, you're worried about getting poked in your eye. | ||
| Well, why are we why do we have extended fingers in the first place? | ||
| Why don't we cover those things with leather? | ||
| We've been over this, man. | ||
| Yeah, we didn't cover it again. | ||
| Someone's not listening to us. | ||
| Look, eye pokes are a real problem. | ||
| But but the fingers like this, they don't help you with grappling. | ||
| You don't do it. | ||
| Here's the problem. | ||
| So they changed the gloves before knockdowns went down like 60%. | ||
| So UFC's all fuck that. | ||
| But the the real issue is is as soon as Immavov touches his eye, you should automatically deduct a point. | ||
| I guarantee you he doesn't do it again. | ||
| The reason he's getting away with it is because hey, don't do that again. | ||
| He's like, yeah, no doubt. | ||
| That's a very complex. | ||
| That's true, too. | ||
| If you take if there's no if there's absolutely black and white. | ||
| You touch their fucking eye, you lose a point, guys are gonna stop doing it. | ||
| A hundred percent. | ||
| But they're too loosey goose. | ||
| And nutshots, too. | ||
| Any nutshot, fence grab, any of that shit. | ||
| We take a point. | ||
| Signed up for a while. | ||
| You don't even get hurt, but you can pretend you got hurt. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| And then you get a few. | ||
| Six seconds. | ||
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Six. | |
| Oh, oh! | ||
| Oh! | ||
| He caught him twice. | ||
| Oh shit. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| Oh no. | ||
| What a fight. | ||
| What a fight, dude. | ||
| That was a crazy fight. | ||
|
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Football. | |
| Immoved decision. | ||
| It's like decisions. | ||
| I'm thinking maybe I'm avaff here. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| But I looked like him a decision. | ||
| When a fight like that, like it's almost like it takes a couple of seconds for these dudes could chill and hug each other. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
|
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You know what I mean? | |
| Like for a couple seconds. | ||
| Yeah, that was like remember Robbie Waller after he fought fucking uh was it um uh Henderson? | ||
| Uh Tommy Hendrix? | ||
| Johnny Hendrix, yeah. | ||
| And and just after he won after the fight, he just kept looking at him like this, just sitting there with his lip all fucking. | ||
| I mean, he's so game. | ||
| Robbie Lawler, they I don't know if you make a human being tougher than Robbie Lawler. | ||
| Yeah, one of the greatest knockouts of all time is him versus Melvin. | ||
| Oh my god, and Melvin Model was eating his legs. | ||
| Eating his legs locking him up like bowling pants. | ||
| And remember, remember in New York when they were protesting and he was on the bus. | ||
| No. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| He was on the bus. | ||
| They're they're they're you know, they're protesting on the streets, and there was a UFC fucking like black van filled with fighters. | ||
| Oh And Robbie Lawler's one of them. | ||
| And everyone's like, oh my God, they're about to break in. | ||
| And he goes, Sit down, conserve your energy. | ||
| We're gonna need it. | ||
| Those doors open, they're gonna have problems. | ||
| And think of about Robbie Lawler walks off that fucking bus. | ||
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And some blue-haired lady's like, you son of a bitch! | |
| Yeah, yeah, enjoy that. | ||
| He competed for Maya. | ||
| What was that protest about? | ||
| Was it a Gaza protest? | ||
| Was that what it was? | ||
| Yeah, it was Black Lives Matter, I think. | ||
| Was it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So what year was this? | ||
| And they do matter, Joe. | ||
| I've always said they do. | ||
| What what year was that? | ||
| When all the chaos is going on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Has that always been there? | ||
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That that guy profile picture. | |
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Palestinian protests. | ||
| The Palestinian protest. | ||
| And the fighters have nothing to do with it. | ||
| They're just trying to get to the arena. | ||
| So it was a Gaza thing. | ||
| So this was what time was this? | ||
| What what year was this, Jeremy? | ||
| Two years ago. | ||
| 2023. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Wow, isn't that crazy that Gaza shit's been going on that long? | ||
| Have you seen what Gaza looks like now? | ||
| Like the surface of the moon. | ||
| Oh, here it goes. | ||
| 4946, it seems like. | ||
| Immavab for sure. | ||
| Nasard Dean Imamov. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| He's not getting home. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| You called it. | ||
| Well, I mean, who else then? | ||
| Who's getting competition? | ||
| The winner of RDR Fluffy. | ||
| Well, it really depends on what that fight looks like, right? | ||
| Because this was a fucking war. | ||
| This was a good fight. | ||
| He might not have stopped him, but he put on a show. | ||
| Both of their stock went out the bottom. | ||
| But they both went after it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was a good fight. | ||
| You didn't think it was a good fight? | ||
| It's a good fight. | ||
| It ain't gonna get you a title shot. | ||
|
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Hmm. | |
| Interesting. | ||
|
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Well, what would be based off the UFC's standards? | |
| Okay, but like who is the big star behind these guys now? | ||
| Beh behind Imav. | ||
| So Imamov just has this great performance. | ||
| He's ranked number two. | ||
| He's on TV, right? | ||
| Who's the big star other than him? | ||
| You mean to fight God? | ||
| Could jump him? | ||
| Fluffy and Fluffy and RDR. | ||
| If there's a finish there, they're guaranteed to get it. | ||
| If they get a finish, which that fight should be a finish. | ||
| But let's say that one's boring too. | ||
| Your biggest star is Strickland. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's the biggest star. | ||
| And he beat it. | ||
| And he beat him of us. | ||
| And I'll talk shit. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So he can build that fight for a pay-per-view. | ||
| Although there's no pay-per-views. | ||
| I wonder if he can get right back in there like that. | ||
| He he comes back in November, December if you're not going to be able to do it. | ||
| Right, but does he go right back into a title shot or does he have to fight somebody? | ||
| Because he he lost to Dricus. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Hasn't lost anybody since then. | ||
| Uh-oh. | ||
| That was quite a while ago. | ||
| And that fight with Trickus was pretty close. | ||
| Well, he also win in the first one. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, he also had staff going into that second fight. | ||
| Which is a way bigger deal than you would think. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, drain your car. | ||
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Just because of the the air gotta take the antibiotics and fucking antibiotics and just the staff itself. | |
| Zap energy and cardio. | ||
|
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Really? | |
| Yeah, and you're also fighting one of the most physical guys in the division who's a fucking bulldog. | ||
| Drick is an animal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He never gets tired, comes fucking throwing haymakers at you. | ||
| He keeps punching. | ||
| What do you do with DDP now? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's a good question. | ||
| Is it crazy? | ||
| Like he was UFC champion, the king of the world, on top, and then just gets manhandled for that. | ||
| He's gonna turn to a gatekeeper until he thinks he's ready for a title shot again. | ||
| If Hamza keeps it. | ||
| But it's like, but it's tough if he needs Hamza to either move up or move on, you know? | ||
| But because it's no one wants to see that for five rounds. | ||
| Well, let me say this. | ||
| You're a grappling expert. | ||
| Alright. | ||
| If they hired you, if they said, listen, we know we have to make some changes and we we want a real genius to look at my game. | ||
| What it what can I do? | ||
| If I work with DDP seven days a week for a year. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| He could be a bare minimum competitive with the comms out that he fought. | ||
| At the bare minimum. | ||
| But then remember, if he does that with you seven days a week, he has to forego all his other shit. | ||
| Probably should do that anyway. | ||
|
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Yep. | |
| Right. | ||
| How about that? | ||
| What a choice is he. | ||
| What a return story that is. | ||
| So that that's that's that's the issue is you need to split everything up. | ||
| But there's right now there's such a discrepancy in the grappling that that needs to take priority. | ||
| Like he he could do grappling seven days a week and then spend time keeping his other skills sharp or striking sharp. | ||
| In the morning. | ||
| Um, but he just got dominated across the board when it came to grappling. | ||
| Like he couldn't, he couldn't not only could he not stop the takedown, but he also couldn't get up. | ||
| And when he did get position on Hamzat, he couldn't hold it. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| So I wonder what's like a a protocol where you uh like if you continue to add work, like if you start off with 10 miles, then you want to work to 11 and 12 and 13, You start off like training in MMA. | ||
| You start off at this pace, and then you you have a heart rate monitor on, you want to push it faster and harder. | ||
| Like I wonder what the fucking threshold is if we've even seen it yet. | ||
| I really wonder. | ||
| Because we've always had these ideas before guys like Mirab, but there's these physical limitations. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| That a guy can't fight every minute of every round. | ||
| But yeah, they can. | ||
| So like are we there yet? | ||
| Or is this like one of those things where no one knows yet because they have limited up here? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, because it's like the four minute mile. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| You know, there's there's things like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where guys just have to see it, they go, hold on, that's possible. | ||
| And then like, well, if he can do it, I can do it. | ||
| I know, it's nuts. | ||
| And then really in this form is only 20 years old. | ||
| Because like 2005, go back and watch a 2005 UFC fight. | ||
| It's pretty different. | ||
| Pretty different. | ||
| Yeah, pretty different. | ||
| The athletes, the technique. | ||
| It's there's nothing like this. | ||
| There's no other sport like this. | ||
| If you look at the sport now, like you have guys who are like specialists in one thing, and then you know, like Pereira's a great striker, and then he's like decent everywhere else, or you know, could be a great grappler, and then he's you know, got decent striking. | ||
| You know, 20 years from now, people are gonna be specialists in fucking everything. | ||
| Yeah, they're gonna be doing it from the time they're kids. | ||
| Like, like see, we we've said that, but we haven't seen it. | ||
| Like they they said that 10 years ago. | ||
| They've said that, and it did for whatever reason, you might be right, you might be right, but the these the specialists have always dominated. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They've always thing is it's like if you're a specialist, they're also just meatheads, so that's another issue. | ||
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Fair. | |
| I'm not sure. | ||
| But coming from a fellow meathead, but the th because those guys that are specials are so dominant in that one aspect that it blankets everything else. | ||
| So they control where the fights could be. | ||
| Like like the the the finality of of MMA, in my opinion, should be a situation where a generalist MMA fighter can be competitive with specialists across the board in every martial art. | ||
| So could hold it can you can hold its own, hold his own with the world's best boxer, his weight, world's best jujitsu guy, his weight, world's best wrestler and his weight. | ||
| That's hard. | ||
| Well's best achievement. | ||
| See, I don't think that's possible, Gordon. | ||
| Listen who you're talking to, dog. | ||
| But you might be able to do that. | ||
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Some authentic protege that's willing to put it in the hours in the day. | |
| So so for for example, like uh You know what I'm saying? | ||
| So for peptide for example, um like with wrestling, like I'm that I know I'm never gonna be the best freestyle wrestler in in the world, but under an ADCC rule set I can hang with anyone, any Olympic champion under ADCC score scoring criteria in a wrestling match. | ||
| So like you're not gonna be not the MMA guys won't be beating the best guys in their domain, but they can be competitive enough with the best guys in the world. | ||
| Where they're not gonna get finished. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like like they're they they won't, you know, if uh if a guy is if you know this finality I'm talking about, if a guy is wrestling in the Olympic champion, maybe he gets taken down four times for every two that he hits. | ||
| So he was losing every match, but it's at least competitive. | ||
| Stuff like that. | ||
| So he's getting finished, you know, every for every one finish. | ||
| Who's the closest it's ever come to putting it all together? | ||
| Well, GSP. | ||
| I think George. | ||
| George and John. | ||
| But I but I also think the only way he can get to that point is getting real athletes in the UFC. | ||
| Like legit athletes where guys, whether they're gonna be all stars in the MLB or NFL, they start coming over to the UFC and we're not seeing that, and it's it's because it it's just it's kind of the nature of the way America's set up. | ||
| And it it's not that it's not just the athletes too. | ||
| You they need to be extremely intelligent athletes. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| But it's the same thing with like the reason Dagestanis are so dominant in fighting is because they're not their athletes, aren't playing football, they're not playing soccer, they're not playing baseball. | ||
| They're literally all all those young men are just doing wrestling. | ||
| It's embraced by the culture. | ||
| Yeah, and here in America, like even I've talked to Eddie about it. | ||
| Like you I'm like, your kid's not fucking uh savant and jiu-jitsu, like, no, because friends aren't doing it. | ||
| They want to do what their friends are doing, so his friend's playing baseball, so he played baseball. | ||
| Yeah, what's cool? | ||
| So it's a it's a cultural thing. | ||
| Yeah, you c you can't compete in the fucking national sport, is fucking people up. | ||
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No, yeah. | |
| It's like their national. | ||
| But then they can't compete. | ||
| They can't compete with us. | ||
| When it comes to other sports, not even fucking close. | ||
| No, not even close. | ||
| Put a basketball. | ||
| Good luck. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Didn't they do a uh football game at Sao Paulo yesterday? | ||
| Yeah, they did. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| Chief charges. | ||
| That's wild. | ||
| No, they lost. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Have you ever been to a the because they watch soccer? | ||
| Do you ever been to a football game? | ||
| Like a soccer game rather? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What they call football. | ||
| No. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like a real one? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have you been? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Is it cool? | ||
| It's fun. | ||
| First of all, there's no breaks. | ||
| Like, you know why they can't have it on TV? | ||
| Because there's no room for commercial. | ||
| No commercial here. | ||
| They don't take time off. | ||
| You have to be in shit. | ||
| I love watching the World Cup. | ||
| They're on the average 10 miles. | ||
| These dudes all have crazy fucking legs. | ||
| Like ridiculous. | ||
| And the streamlined upper bodies. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And they're just fucking cardio machines. | ||
| And soccer, if you see soccer in Europe, they those kids start at like people like Messi and all of them. | ||
| They start at six, even younger, and they go to special schools where all they do is play soccer. | ||
| That's the only thing. | ||
| So I have a Ty got a buddy in LA, and his dad was from England, and he was the best seven-year-old I've ever seen in soccer. | ||
| Yeah, I was like, what the fuck are we doing? | ||
| His dad played semi probe, so he grew up doing it. | ||
| His footwork, I was like, this is insane. | ||
| And then he just wasn't at school one day. | ||
| I'm like, where the fuck is this kid at? | ||
| And Tiger's like, oh, he moved to England. | ||
| So I text his dad who has buddies with him. | ||
| I'm like, yo, man, what the fuck? | ||
| He's like, oh, Manchester United picked him up. | ||
| I'm like, yeah. | ||
| He's seven. | ||
| He goes, yeah, he's in the feeder program. | ||
| They take the feeder program. | ||
| It goes all the way up. | ||
| All the way up. | ||
| Oh that is kids but most of those kids don't make it. | ||
| So what happens is you play your whole life and you don't make it on the Premier League. | ||
| And now you're just a good soccer player. | ||
| And thanks for the time. | ||
| Oh tennis is a good thing. | ||
| There's no guarantee in anything. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Now it's new sports. | ||
| Tennis is the same way. | ||
| Tennis that they're talking about. | ||
| It's a privilege. | ||
| It's not a right. | ||
| Pro sports. | ||
| It's very cut through. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And the most cutthroat is when you're fucking throwing bones at each other inside a cage in your underwear. | ||
| This is the most cutthroat. | ||
| The most cut throat. | ||
| And the shortest career expansion. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Year and a half. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's the thing about like someone like Aaron Pico, who was wrestling on the international circuit at 16 years old, and boxing. | ||
| So that he was raised boxing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was amazing. | ||
| And so his skill set is so complete. | ||
| But then there are little there are those little factors, right? | ||
| You rush. | ||
| Maybe maybe you're maybe when in the big show, you kind of you Yeah, but forget about him. | ||
| What about Lerone? | ||
| Lerone has been quietly one of the most elite guys that no one talks about in that division. | ||
| But because that division's too crazy. | ||
| That division is just filled with animals. | ||
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It's crazy. | |
| It's all assassins. | ||
| It's like a sh fucking just a killer's den. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So LaRone had to make a big statement, and that was a big one. | ||
| But to Gordon's point, like when you're talking about like smart fighters, that's the difference. | ||
| Like a John Jones IQs through the fucking roof. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Tom Hasmell. | ||
| Like those chain like Izzy's a very smart strickland is a smart guy. | ||
| His fight IQ is very high. | ||
| Staying injury free is a huge thing. | ||
| Strickland's invested all his money too, you know. | ||
| Wicked smart money. | ||
| He's of course. | ||
| Yeah, you think he's an idiot because he says crazy. | ||
| But that's also why he's famous. | ||
| Smart Fox. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Playing the game. | ||
| Any of those guys. | ||
| Like I always look at like how well do you stay injury free? | ||
| You know, how do you train? | ||
| How how much damage do you take in training while getting better? | ||
| Which is really it's a whole science. | ||
| That's why I was talking to what I love about Brian Shaw. | ||
| He deadlifting 1,200 pounds for 13 years in a row. | ||
| And and one of the few guys who really didn't get injured. | ||
| That's nice, but he's friends with Jordan Peterson. | ||
| So pass. | ||
| I know pass. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| How big is he, by the way? | ||
| Remember I brought him to the green room? | ||
| Dude, it's not even a human. | ||
| It's so weird. | ||
| Vikings, like whatever whatever those thing is, this is Brian's. | ||
| Something from the Brian. | ||
| Something from the Bible. | ||
| I thought I'm a private. | ||
| Oh, you did, right? | ||
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Ha ha. | |
| What was that? | ||
| I made him drill big Dan. | ||
| I'm like, I'm not fucking drilled. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| He was like, I want to do MMA. | ||
| So he's like, we did like a little bit of a few. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| MMA fight. | ||
| We did like some stuff on like kind of Tom A, like arm triangles from Mount. | ||
| And we did some wall wrestling stuff. | ||
| And then his fight back didn't happen, right? | ||
| No, it didn't happen. | ||
| But he he was he was serious. | ||
| I brought him with Cody Donovan. | ||
| I brought he went to high school. | ||
| Dude, bro, he's 400 pounds. | ||
| Dude, he's drilling with fucking Big Dan on the wall. | ||
| And I'm like showing him like dumping a single as the guy's leg second leg comes towards you, locking it double and putting him down. | ||
| And I'm just like, I grabbed Dan, I just like circled him down. | ||
| Dude, Dan's six foot seven, three hundred and thirty pounds. | ||
| So Brian just does the first move, locks both legs, and just picks him up over his head. | ||
| He's like and fucking puts him down on the ground. | ||
| He did the same thing with Derek Wolf. | ||
| Derek Wolf's all-star 285 pounds, like you know, one for Viking. | ||
| And just picked him up. | ||
| Derek was like, it's it's so suffocating. | ||
| He just got underhooks and I'm gonna pick you up and move you over here and just throw you. | ||
| I mean, you're not doing anything with so that's like in the Bible. | ||
| Like guys like that. | ||
| He's he's Goliath. | ||
| Yeah, the guys who come over the hill and everyone runs because they're giants. | ||
| They did a decorative. | ||
| It can't be just one of him, right? | ||
| What he is is like the the echoes of the past. | ||
| Well, they they looked at his bones. | ||
| His bone density, he said, it doesn't have giantism, actually. | ||
| It's a different thing. | ||
| He had his bone density is uh is is they've never quite seen anything like it. | ||
| He has the I think the densest bones they've ever recorded. | ||
| They said it's one in five hundred million people have bones out dense. | ||
| Jesus, him and the hippo? | ||
| Him and like four other dudes on earth. | ||
| He's got a rhino, he's got rhino rhino muscles. | ||
| No, he's a real freak. | ||
| But it's weird just when you're standing next to him, like, okay, this is a different thing. | ||
| Like this is a gorilla. | ||
| Oh, this is a chill. | ||
| Did you ever hear Andy Galpin talk about they took uh muscle tissue from one of these uh one of the greatest Olympic lifters of all time? | ||
| And this guy not only been training, but had been taking a certain, you know, certain Russian, you know, concoctions. | ||
| And they found that his muscle fibers were akin to a rhinos. | ||
| Like the density were akin to I'm gonna say it again, uh fucking rhino. | ||
| Ladies and gentlemen, like it was a different density. | ||
| Some people are just different, like I'm around kids all the time. | ||
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You can just grab a kid and you're like, dude, what the f you're pretty you're pretty banned at hell my grapple fucking Thor. | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| It was like the best part is I he's like, I want to do a private. | ||
| I was at the I was at the PI because uh we were doing UFC fight pass the next day. | ||
| So I had to compete the next day. | ||
| So I taught him private, I'm like, I can't train because John will kill me if I get hurt, and you're pretty likely to injure me because you're fucking 450 pounds. | ||
| You so big. | ||
| So we do a private, and the cowboy guy's like, can we just do one roll? | ||
| Can we just do one roll? | ||
| So I'm like, fuck. | ||
| I like a look around, and like I see John like doing his fucking workout in the in the corner, and I'm just like, alright, he's like a hundred feet away. | ||
| He probably won't see us start rolling. | ||
| And when we're already rolling them, already be too late. | ||
| I'm like, all right, fuck it, let's do it. | ||
| And that guy is just like I think he was I think he was close to 400 pounds, maybe when we last time I saw him. | ||
| I think I saw the light. | ||
| You got him. | ||
| And um I let him start in top side control because we're doing side control. | ||
| First of all, I was doing it. | ||
| I was I was teaching him and uh Martins Leechus, or I don't know how to pronounce his last name, uh, and other strong men, side control escapes. | ||
| And they immediately, I'm like, just drill the move. | ||
| They immediately just one of them's bottom side control, one of them's top side control, and it just immediately degenerates into a full live roll. | ||
| They're just they're just fighting from side control for the full hour, and I'm like, I just drilled the move, and they're like, they just can't do it. | ||
| So that's I let them both start from top side control. | ||
| So Thor locks on from top side control, and I'm like, alright, go. | ||
| And he squeezes me so hard that I'm like, if he could do this for 20 seconds, he's gonna asphyxiate me. | ||
| Just by like, just like my I have my lungs cannot expand from this position. | ||
| Um so like I just like brought my knee and elbow together and like swept him and and like mounted him and I saw him. | ||
| I saw him right after. | ||
| I I finished him in like 30 seconds. | ||
| Um and I did it with Martins too, who actually wrestled in high school, so he was a little bit more self-like aware, like with his body. | ||
| Um he was actually a little bit harder to deal with. | ||
| But I had like a six sweep on him, and like as I went, he like used the momentum and just like rolled through. | ||
| I had like perfect body position. | ||
| He like went to go roll through. | ||
| I'm like, well, guess we're going back on bottom. | ||
| And then like I rolled him through again and then adjusted the second time, but it's it was interesting for sure. | ||
| I saw four. | ||
| I love that idea. | ||
| I didn't know. | ||
| I thought it took you 30 seconds, though. | ||
| It's like it was kind of tough because it took a 30 underpower. | ||
| I did a photo shoot with Thor right after he rolled with you and he was telling me about it. | ||
| He's like, Yeah, I went with this Gordon Ryan. | ||
| Oh, I'm like, yeah, that's my buddy. | ||
| I said, you know, he's like the Michael Jordan Jesus. | ||
| He's I I don't understand, man. | ||
| You had me just doing all this stuff, and I go, You thought you were gonna do well? | ||
| And he goes, Yeah, well, yeah. | ||
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I'm like, oh buddy, no, you just don't know. | |
| Fucking chance, dude. | ||
| I was like, and he's probably going up 50%, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, that's like that's like they just don't know. | ||
| They had a pro come in, a big guy. | ||
| He he was a male stripper, but he had a couple pro fights in boxing, and he knocked he he brought another guy in and he knocked the dude out. | ||
| So you brought a guy in a spa. | ||
| Yeah, you're not supposed to do that. | ||
| So Wayne McCulloch, who fought at one nineteen. | ||
| No, this was at maybe uh maybe it was boxing birdie. | ||
| It might have been at uh no, it was at uh glove works. | ||
| You're doing time. | ||
| and yeah, I well I was, but he wasn't. | ||
| I was and he goes, uh Wayne goes, Hey, we don't do that here, you know, take it easy. | ||
| And the guy went like this to Wayne, stuck his tongue out, knocked his buddy out again. | ||
| Really dangerous. | ||
| You didn't twice. | ||
| Yes, really dangerous. | ||
| So Wayne goes, Wayne goes, stay in the ring. | ||
| And uh lights is doesn't even put uh headgear on. | ||
| And this giant dude, like 220, just jacked and juiced and kills, you know, he had his boxing, and Wayne just he has throws, and Wayne just goes, and hit him in the fucking in the liver. | ||
| And apparently I wasn't there. | ||
| I heard that he went, hey! | ||
| He made this high pitch, hey, and just fell to the ground, and that was all she wrote, kids just fucking ate his liver and said, Don't do that in my gym, and just got the fuck out. | ||
| Guys just don't know. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Don't fuck around. | ||
| There's so many nuts that come into gyms and wants bar. | ||
| Bro, Tim uh Tim Kennedy and your boy Shane invited me to that arch type boxing. | ||
| Yeah, and he goes, Bring your son, I'll bring mine. | ||
| So when we're going, the kids would go. | ||
| So I bring my boys. | ||
| There's a bunch of guys there, and there's a guy, and he he has double uh knee braces on, which is always a red flag. | ||
| Double fucking knee brace. | ||
| I'm like, that's weird. | ||
| And he has his ears pairs, bald head. | ||
| I'm like, oh, this can't be good. | ||
| Double knee braces. | ||
| What kind of knee braces are we talking about? | ||
| Like the ones you get from Walgreens, you know, where he's gonna be able to do that. | ||
| Oh, have been washed the braces. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, and you're like this guy's a display. | ||
| And it was Chris Angel. | ||
| But he's talking, he's he's talking about UFC, whatever. | ||
| Now everyone in that group is a b a black belt. | ||
| Everyone. | ||
| Everybody's really tough. | ||
| Everyone's really good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And we're we're you know, we're just we're move, we're moving around with each other, you know, sparring, and this new guy, and Tim goes, Hey, don't go with that guy. | ||
| And why he goes, dude, I didn't read my DMs. | ||
| Apparently I invited him like months ago and he fucking showed up. | ||
| I didn't know he was gonna be here today. | ||
| He goes, but I don't know him. | ||
| So he was trying to knock people out. | ||
| So he's going with his friend Shane, Shane Steiner. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they're going, I see him grab Shane's head and go, boom, boom. | ||
| And Shane's like, Shane's very nice. | ||
| Shane's super nice. | ||
| And we're like, what the fuck? | ||
| Yeah, I mean, he's going, boom. | ||
| And you never do that. | ||
| We're just touch sparring. | ||
| No, he's going to be touched. | ||
| So I'm like, oh, buddy. | ||
| And then uh Tim goes, stop, stops around, stop, stop. | ||
| He goes, You and me. | ||
| You and me. | ||
| And that guy with the new brace goes, you and me are gonna go. | ||
| So I get my son, I go, watch this. | ||
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Watch this. | |
| He goes, Why you go just watch, watch. | ||
| So Tim's like, You ready? | ||
| And the guy's like, yeah, me start the clock. | ||
| Like this, and then fucking Tim just fuck this dude up. | ||
| I mean, just annihilating. | ||
| And he was you good. | ||
| You good? | ||
| And the guy goes, I'm good, man. | ||
| I'm good. | ||
| And he's one of these guys who goes, I needed that. | ||
| I'm like, get the fuck. | ||
| And Tim, by the way, Tim, by the way, wasn't even. | ||
| I saw the video of that, and Tim was being very nice. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's so many nutty dudes like that. | ||
| Fucked it. | ||
| What do you think was gonna happen, dude? | ||
| There's so many videos online where guys don't know how to box at all and they go into a gym. | ||
| Like doing put the gloves on me, man. | ||
| I'm a fucking street fighter. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| There's so many videos of those. | ||
| Do you see that troll that Deontay Wilder invited to his gym? | ||
| You came in, I'll fuck you up. | ||
| This little white dude in a wife beater shows up. | ||
| Oh, that kid's crazy. | ||
| Let's do it. | ||
| And Wilder's like, uh oh, sign these forms so you don't sue me. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Put your gloves on and just fucking. | ||
| Well, he said he was saying shit about his daughter. | ||
| That guy, that guy's a mess. | ||
| He's actually truly crazy. | ||
| That doesn't matter. | ||
| Piece of shit. | ||
| You just invited him into your life. | ||
| Congratulations. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Fucking nut time. | ||
| They're all nuts. | ||
| Deontay and Francis is probably the only fight that I'd be interested in seeing from either one of those guys right now. | ||
| I'll agree a hundred percent. | ||
| Deontay Francis would be. | ||
| I mean, maybe there's another fight for Francis and heavyweight boxing. | ||
| But the real fight for Francis is obviously the UFC title. | ||
| When did when was last time Deontay fought? | ||
| It's been a while. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's on some hard times since he did that at awasco. | ||
| Did he fight after that Zhang fight? | ||
| No. | ||
| He got knocked out by Jang. | ||
| He has a high interest. | ||
| Um was that his last fight? | ||
| The Zhang fight? | ||
| Francis and Gano offered lucrative return to boxing by former world champion. | ||
| Your power against my power. | ||
| You ever hear how Teddy Atlas talked about Deontay Wilder's power? | ||
| Because he'll hit you. | ||
| He'll hit you so hard. | ||
| He'll hit you in the face and shatter your ankles. | ||
| He called it the eraser. | ||
| Oh. | ||
| Because he was like, Oh, the errors that he made. | ||
| He erases him with one punch. | ||
| And his technique's not great. | ||
| Back foot's off the ground. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But just fucking whack. | ||
| It's extraordinary. | ||
| When he fought that was it, Brazil? | ||
| I was working for a showtime. | ||
| They sat me and my brother in New York next to that Brazil's family. | ||
| And I didn't know it. | ||
| And he's walking out. | ||
| There's only people cheering. | ||
| And I'm like, oh no, my brother goes well. | ||
| I'm like, we're next to fucking Brazil. | ||
| This is a dead man walking. | ||
| This can be the worst fucking time ever. | ||
| But it shows you the chin that Tyson Fury has. | ||
| Because Tyson Fury ate one shot that on the top of the head that went all the way down to his fat. | ||
| It's fat wiggled. | ||
| It's a crazy stuff. | ||
| Just like an earthquake. | ||
| It went through his body. | ||
| He's up like the undertaker. | ||
| Craziest shit I've ever seen. | ||
| Well, that was the first fight. | ||
| This was uh this wasn't the second fight where he got dropped, I think three times. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Still came back and knocked him out. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| Wild. | ||
| His chin is insane. | ||
| He took that left hook, went down, and everybody's like, well, it's definitely over. | ||
| He took a right hand and then a left hook, right? | ||
| Wasn't that what it was? | ||
| He's my guy. | ||
| Left hook on the way down. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Flat. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like he's out cold. | ||
| Out, out. | ||
| Rises and then wins the remainder of the round. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And then realized in winning the remainder of the round how to fight him. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Get him back in up. | ||
| Just push him, push him forward. | ||
| Yeah, he's got a back. | ||
| But I think he's done, yeah? | ||
| Tyson Fury? | ||
| I think he's done. | ||
| He said he's retired. | ||
| He's done. | ||
| He was thinking about one more Usick fight. | ||
| He was talking about that. | ||
| Usick. | ||
| Because he's the closest that anybody's to solving Usik. | ||
| The early rounds of that first fight, it looked like he was solving them. | ||
| Usick is so special. | ||
| He's special. | ||
| Oh I watched them break like real boxers break down what he does, like how the traps he says. | ||
| Cruiserweight, heavyweight, Olympics. | ||
| That Dubois was crazy. | ||
| Fought it, fought it started at 88. | ||
| I mean, he's a natural cruiser weight or something. | ||
| He's not even a Yeah, he he fought Better Beave in the Olympics. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Better be just. | ||
| Or at least an amateur fight. | ||
| Better be is another one. | ||
| He's another one. | ||
| But he's just throws ones and twos and just fucking bow. | ||
| Oh, dude, three, four years ago, he was the scariest fucking human being alive. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| But he's 40. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he's obviously 40. | ||
| You know. | ||
| Different forty. | ||
| He's not getting uh the golden snitch sniffing around his pee pee. | ||
| Golden snitch is nowhere to be found. | ||
| I don't know what they do if they're because when he's in those fights with Bival, what kind of testing did they do? | ||
| Because they're talking about a trilogy. | ||
| Do you think that'd be cool? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| It's just you know, this is the thing, Gordon. | ||
| Like what they're doing with Brazilian jujitsu on this UFC thing where you have to get drug tested. | ||
| Like are they drug testing everybody? | ||
| Uh they said they were gonna start uh testing in 2026. | ||
| What that means, I don't know. | ||
| But that means that the only They should have a multiple choice test. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Which means that they're gonna have to sign people exclusive. | ||
| It's also got a lot of money in the city. | ||
| Jujitsu has been juicy for so long. | ||
| Like there's so many guys that are juicy that are in Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| It's like the last one. | ||
| This is this is all this is all gonna be caveman talk because they have that two things coming. | ||
| One is that peptide that you can you can take and you will it literally has no endocrine, it doesn't change your end grid thing. | ||
| I think it blocks your myostatin. | ||
| So you're gonna be able to build muscle with almost no sound effects. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| And then the second thing is with this CRISPR Cas 9 shit now, they're if you have like high cholesterol, they can get your liver to stop making the kind of cholesterol. | ||
| You you become that person that makes very little cholesterol and has low cholesterol naturally. | ||
| And so that's what they're gonna do. | ||
| So statins are gonna be a thing of the past as well. | ||
| Because with Christopher Cas9, you can get one quick gene editing thing, and it's coming down the pipe fast. | ||
| Not just that, Gary Nolan was on here and he does cancer research. | ||
| He's out of Stanford. | ||
| One of the things he was talking about was they're gonna develop a cream that you could rub on your skin that doesn't make you so you're no longer susceptible to sun radiation. | ||
| The way he's got like that weird genes, a weird gene where he has a lot of melanoma all over his skin. | ||
| Because he he has an actual expression of a gene that like is m you're much more likely to get it. | ||
| And he was saying he's got like cuts all over his body where they have to compl always cut these things off from but that's a gene. | ||
| They can edit that. | ||
| And they can edit it with a cream. | ||
| And I said, Is this possible? | ||
| He's like, Oh, yeah, it's going to happen. | ||
| I can't wait. | ||
| Come on. | ||
| Science. | ||
| Bro, they're gonna turn old ladies in the hot again. | ||
| That's gonna get weird. | ||
| Did you hear the guy, the guy who owns it? | ||
| Bobas, did you hear the guy who owns the LA Times who has all those cancer patents? | ||
| He said he they've got this uh where they they boost your helper T cell. | ||
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Mm-hmm. | |
| And Newsweek did an article about this. | ||
| They are first of all, they're curing bladder cancer. | ||
| Um Cleoblaston's old is she? | ||
| That's Martha Stewart? | ||
| Is that a real picture? | ||
| Is that like a filter filter? | ||
| Like this week. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That's insane. | ||
| Even with a filter. | ||
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Money, money, money. | |
| But you still gotta work the butt the body still. | ||
| The body still sacks. | ||
| How do you know, Brian? | ||
| Don't be so negative. | ||
| Yeah, don't be don't be a hater. | ||
| How do you know? | ||
| Maybe she got a banging body under there. | ||
| But that 80-year-old skin just feels a little different. | ||
| Not when you get that super special crisper cream. | ||
| Maybe right. | ||
|
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Chris. | |
| We're gonna be 80 and you and I. What if they start focusing on hair, B? | ||
| Huh? | ||
| You guys could both have long logs. | ||
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Oh, though, I would shave my head even if I grow my hair. | |
| No, no, no, they got the peptide. | ||
| No, but I like it. | ||
| I like shaving my head. | ||
| But the thing is, like, I don't want to talk to a fucking haircutter. | ||
| You ever been kidnapped where they just hold you there? | ||
| And then I told her, you are not gonna fucking treat me like that. | ||
| Good for you. | ||
| Stay on your ground. | ||
| And it's like, oh my god. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| You fucking trapped. | ||
| You can't go anywhere, you're like slip steps. | ||
| Well, you should I get it. | ||
| I see your point. | ||
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That is the old. | |
| She's out of line. | ||
| She's definitely out of line. | ||
| They got that peptide that that also you rub on your thing that grows revives new hair follicles. | ||
| I can't wear it. | ||
| Yeah, they've developed some sort of drug that actually grows like legitimate hair. | ||
| Like revitalizes your follicles completely. | ||
| I want to be able to do that. | ||
| They're turning back, they're taking skin and making skin young again. | ||
| They're doing weird shit. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Damn, she's got the yabbo. | ||
| Look, this is 82. | ||
| This one is 83, and then this one is 84. | ||
| She looks amazing. | ||
| Is she getting something done every year? | ||
| Or are they just I hope so? | ||
| Maybe she's really dedicated to the cause. | ||
| She's trying to up her craft. | ||
| But look at uh Chris Jenner. | ||
| She's the Gordon Ryan of plastic surgery. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
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She's got a lot of money. | |
| No time off. | ||
| She's got a lot of money. | ||
| If I can pay my mortgage on it. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| I got bills. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The thing is, like, what is your, you know, what is your body pop? | ||
| Like, what's the hottest body an 80-year-old woman has ever had? | ||
| Like, what's a hot dog? | ||
| Raquel Welch. | ||
| Raquel Welsh. | ||
| Bring her up for a sec. | ||
| I bet you that's some genes, right? | ||
| Some some ladies have those. | ||
| How old is someone high lower? | ||
| Is she like 50 or 6 guys? | ||
| Sophia. | ||
| I've seen the six guy. | ||
| Yeah, they got. | ||
| She's like 56. | ||
| She's insane. | ||
| I've seen her. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Just a freak. | ||
| And again, 50 is the new thing. | ||
| Those Latin jeans, though. | ||
| Yeah, it's crazy. | ||
| That's a fact. | ||
| Yeah, you ain't seen no white girls like that. | ||
| I've seen a white girl. | ||
| Scottish lady. | ||
| I've seen an 80-year-old English woman who looked at no 60-year-old 60. | ||
| She was beautiful. | ||
| I've just chanced 62. | ||
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I've just turned 60. | |
| What is the accent with that? | ||
| I want you to Google what is the hottest 80-year-old lady. | ||
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I just did. | |
| I just did. | ||
| I'm trying to get it. | ||
| Jamie's so good. | ||
| Your Google search is fuck for life. | ||
| Oh, there you go. | ||
| All right. | ||
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There is that 71-year-old. | |
| Frank Zane is the hottest 80-year-old lady. | ||
| There's that 70-year-old. | ||
| That is ridiculous. | ||
| Oh, 80-year-old grandpa crushes it. | ||
| No, you know who's really, really amazing? | ||
| Is who's the guy who sings Jesse's girl? | ||
| Rick Springfield. | ||
| Dude, check out Rick Springfield at 72. | ||
| He's like 72 and he has no shirt on on stage. | ||
| Dude, it's crazy. | ||
| Whoa. | ||
| Bring up Rick Springfield. | ||
| Forget all these guys. | ||
| Okay, Christy Brinkley. | ||
| She's 63. | ||
| She's good. | ||
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Age is a big thing. | |
| Bring up Christy Brinkley now. | ||
| Shut the fuck up, Brendan. | ||
| Why are you ruining everything? | ||
| Look at her right now. | ||
| Pretty fucking good. | ||
| Who's the angel? | ||
| How about that? | ||
| How about that? | ||
| Who no? | ||
| Come on, son. | ||
| Who's the English girl married to Q Grandy? | ||
| Liz Hurley. | ||
| Bring her. | ||
| She's hot too. | ||
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Dude. | |
| She's a girlfriend. | ||
|
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She keeps together. | |
| She's incredible. | ||
| She's probably 60, maybe my age. | ||
| Keep it together, ladies. | ||
| Keep it together. | ||
| I know, man. | ||
| That's disciplinary. | ||
| They have to lift weights. | ||
| When you get to a certain point, the only way you're going to keep your shit. | ||
| She should always lift weights. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You gotta lift weights. | ||
| Oh fuck. | ||
| You should see my boy. | ||
| Here, I'm gonna show you the best. | ||
| She's 60? | ||
| God. | ||
| Jamie. | ||
| Send you a video. | ||
| She's 60. | ||
| Did you ever see the photo of her sitting next to Bill Clinton? | ||
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Yes. | |
| And you're like, oh yeah. | ||
| Oh, that's a good idea. | ||
| I'll show you the best. | ||
| Because he was a fan of hers. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| I'm going to show you the best spot at 74 years old. | ||
| He was a fan of yours. | ||
| I've always admired. | ||
| What the fuck is he wearing? | ||
| Bro, well, he's wearing the I'm about to fuck Elizabeth Hurley collection. | ||
| You're damn right he is. | ||
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I've always been a fan of the way you present yourself on camera. | |
| That's like he's crushing it. | ||
| Yeah, what is that outfit? | ||
| They had a bullfight. | ||
| Is he a bullfighter? | ||
| I don't know what the fuck you do. | ||
| Imagine you're a president former or other, and they ask you to wear that. | ||
| You're like, no, I'm good. | ||
| I think I'll wear a regular suit so I don't wind up. | ||
| Can I just wear the regular shit? | ||
| Did you see the uh the picture or the video of uh Cuomo giving a speech with the I think it was Muslims and one of the dudes he brought just had a do rag on? | ||
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Just gave her all trying to fit in, and he just was wearing a fucking blue do rag. | |
| Oh my god. | ||
| I'll show you the best body of 74. | ||
| There's nobody like this. | ||
| Nobody liked this whole thing. | ||
| Oh my god, that's so funny. | ||
| You gotta find Rich French. | ||
| Yeah, no, no, no. | ||
| This is Shane Shane Steiner's father. | ||
| Shane Steiner's father is the most. | ||
| Who's Shane Steiner? | ||
| Shane's my buddy who owns the helicopter. | ||
| Oh, he's rich as dad. | ||
| You gotta see his dad. | ||
| It's I've never seen any shape. | ||
| I've never seen anything like it. | ||
| I'm gonna send you a video. | ||
| How many times did you jump off to it? | ||
| Uh well, I'm not gonna talk about that. | ||
| So you wait too long. | ||
| That's a personal question. | ||
| Well, uh, Jamie, how do I get this to you? | ||
| Listen, Grandpa. | ||
| Don't you know about airdrop? | ||
| Grandpa. | ||
| Oh, here it is. | ||
| This is so stupid. | ||
| Just walk over there and have him take a picture of your phone like he did last time. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Grandpa. | ||
| Send it to Jamie, Grandpa. | ||
| I'm saying it. | ||
| Jamie, it's your airdrop on. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Holy shit. | ||
| Gordon Ryan stays outside the airdrop ecosphere. | ||
| James Pro? | ||
| Didn't you? | ||
| He's one of the the rare birds. | ||
| Got a phone isn't that, dude. | ||
| What is Android? | ||
| Z fold. | ||
| No, it's my. | ||
| Don't you have an Android now? | ||
| Um, I'm still I still haven't switched over yet. | ||
| Yeah, did you get it? | ||
| I guess you have both. | ||
| Yeah, I do have both, but I haven't been using the other one. | ||
| I'm gonna use it as my primary phone once I I have to switch a bunch of shit. | ||
| He was a pro a world champion bull rider. | ||
| He's 74 years old. | ||
| He was a bull rider? | ||
| Yeah, world champion. | ||
| How's he not completely broken? | ||
| And he owns like a moss. | ||
| Because he's a because he's built like that, and he never stops working out. | ||
| It's ridiculous. | ||
| 74? | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| That guy looks incredible. | ||
| He's unbelievable. | ||
| I've never seen I kept looking at him last night. | ||
| I was like, I can't get over this shit. | ||
| That's a that's a display. | ||
| His shoulders are this wide. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's a discipline. | ||
| Iron discipline. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And it's the whole family. | ||
| What do you do for a living? | ||
| He's a billionaire. | ||
| Counts, buddy. | ||
| He's a billionaire. | ||
| Which is weird, right? | ||
| Steiner Ranchy. | ||
| The Stein ice cream. | ||
| The Steiners own the largest uh cattle. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But they're all beautiful people. | ||
| And the whole family, they're all cowboys. | ||
| Like, you ever go to that Steiner Ranch steakhouse? | ||
| Yeah, I was there last night. | ||
| I was there last night. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Last night. | ||
| And and uh they're the nephew, Rocker, is the world champion bucking Bronco rider. | ||
| The the his brother Sid is like the world champion fucking cameo in Yellowstone. | ||
| Yeah, that's right. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
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That's right. | |
| Oh, what a crazy thing to get good at. | ||
| The whole family's built like this. | ||
| Riding horses. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Bucking Broncos. | ||
| And bulls. | ||
| Bulls. | ||
| Bull riders and buckets. | ||
| They're all wild boys because then the son, Shane, only gets around by a helicopter. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Shane only Shane doesn't drive. | ||
| Yeah, you used to train at Roka with us. | ||
| And you used to hear the helicopter coming. | ||
| Shane's here. | ||
| He just lands in the detention pond. | ||
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I was at the end. | |
| He picks me up every day to go work out, and my neighbor's like, what the fuck? | ||
| He'll be, I'll be there at nine exactly. | ||
| I gotta run to the club. | ||
| A friend of mine is daughter takes was taking this gymnastics class, and one of the kids would get dropped off by helicopters. | ||
| That's him, dude. | ||
| His daughter uh does gymnastics. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| I'm like, what a flex. | ||
| He's the best guy. | ||
| I think there's a bunch of guys that do that, though. | ||
| I don't think it's just one. | ||
| I think Austin has a weird. | ||
| As long as as long as you don't as I think it's like a the rules are like as long as you don't obviously like go against any FAA rules. | ||
| Don't take out any power lines. | ||
| And you have you have like the landlord or like just permission from the person. | ||
| Like he just landed short. | ||
| Didn't Tim have a helicopter for a while? | ||
| No, Tim that was Shane's Tim and Shane are best friends. | ||
| That was Shane's helicopter. | ||
| Tim Tim will get out on the ski when he's shooting hogs. | ||
| Tim will stand on the skis and shooting Tim, and Shane's like, please wear your seatbelt. | ||
| And he's like, shut up. | ||
| I've done this. | ||
| He's so out of his mind. | ||
| They try to get on skis and come down low enough to jump off the skis onto a wild pig's back with a hatchet, and they tried that and it didn't work because they missed the pig. | ||
| And apparently Tim kind of fell face first into the fucking dirt. | ||
| Jesus Christ. | ||
| I'm gonna kill a pig from your helicopter. | ||
| They're like, you want to try that? | ||
| I go, I'm not gonna fucking do that. | ||
| But imagine if you had a GoPro on your head and it worked. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's fucking cool as a big thing. | ||
| I don't involve with that shooting pigs out of helicopters thing. | ||
| I've seen the videos, it's pretty wild. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's fun to watch. | ||
| You don't want to do it. | ||
| I it just doesn't seem like the right thing to do. | ||
| Well, it's pesky. | ||
| First of all, the pistol. | ||
| I get it, it's pesky. | ||
| And I would do it. | ||
| I would do it. | ||
| But I can't, I just can't. | ||
| If I had to do it, like if I had a ranch. | ||
| It's actually hard to do too. | ||
| Because you gotta you gotta shoot. | ||
| I think um it's the way you do it is a specific way. | ||
| It's like not easy to do it. | ||
| I thought about it because Ted Nugent invited me to it, and I was like, is that's not the craziest fucking thing you could do in your life is go pig hunting out of a hell of a few. | ||
| Well, farmers will pay to do it, so that'd be cool. | ||
| Farmers will pay because they decimate your corn and stuff. | ||
| Remember the first time we talked about it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You're like, you're like pigs cause 700 trillion dollars a year in damage to the crops. | ||
| You're like, look it up, Jamie. | ||
| And then it was like, it's only three million a year. | ||
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I mean, you're both like, well, maybe we shouldn't be fucking killing all these pigs. | |
| It's not just three million, it's it's more than that. | ||
| It's like a million a year. | ||
| I was reading some articles that sounded like I was reading some articles. | ||
| It sounded like clickbaity bullshit, but it was about these 500 pound super hogs that are coming out of Canada. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This is like the latest thing we're supposed to be scared of. | ||
| Like giant super hogs out of Canada that means they're America. | ||
| Yeah, well, Canada. | ||
| But like, how are they so big? | ||
| Like, what do you talk? | ||
| Why are they so big? | ||
| Why do you have 600 pound pigs? | ||
| They get that big. | ||
| What's like that picture I think of that deer that got eaten fucking stomach first in front of my house? | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Like, what the fuck did that a mountain line? | ||
| It's probably Bobcat. | ||
| Could be a coyotes, could be a lot of things. | ||
| They do have mountain lions in Austin, actually. | ||
| They do. | ||
| Yeah, they do. | ||
| We got some kind of a cat on our camera, and it's tough to tell perspective. | ||
| But it someone thought maybe because it was really black and it was night vision, it was before we upgraded the cameras. | ||
| It would look like it might have been a German Shepherd, but it was weird. | ||
| It moved like a cat. | ||
| But you know how German shepherds have that weird thing where they kind of like lower in the butt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They move a little more cat like. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Which is like one of the things that I think why they can go so fast. | ||
| Like Belgian Malamore. | ||
| How about that Dutch Shepherd that thing you sent me, right? | ||
| Insane. | ||
| But this thing was in front of my house. | ||
| I asked. | ||
| And we got an alarm. | ||
| Well, they were like, there's a large predator. | ||
| Like, bring the dog inside. | ||
| And then I went and watched the video of it. | ||
| I was like, what the fuck is that? | ||
| Like, what is that? | ||
| Yeah, I asked animal control. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck would do this? | ||
| They're like, usually if it's like uh wolves or coyotes, coyotes, there would be blood everywhere. | ||
| Like they eat them and then it bleeds out, and but it was everything was clean. | ||
| So it was probably one animal did all the work. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| No guts, no blood. | ||
| Well, whatever the fuck this thing was, it was in the shadows, it was hard to pick up, but it looked like a cat. | ||
| It looked like a pretty big cat. | ||
| How about the cats? | ||
| You see how big those those mountain lions are on Idaho and in Colorado? | ||
| They're not like you're a hundred-pound mountain lions. | ||
| They're 200 pound cats. | ||
| You ever seen the one Derek Wolf killed? | ||
| It's the biggest thing I've ever seen. | ||
| Massive. | ||
| That one in LA. | ||
| You know how big he is? | ||
| And they see him holding that wolf up. | ||
| I mean, holding that mountain lion up. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| That one in LA in Woodland Hills was they said it was plus 200. | ||
| That big dude just on the fucking cameras. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, they take down elk. | ||
| 200? | ||
| They take down elk with their face. | ||
| And they eat dogs like crazy. | ||
| When they find them in California, when you know they have to do those depredation things, they have a problem mountain lion. | ||
| They found that 50% of their diet is pets. | ||
| What? | ||
| Really? | ||
| It's in San Francisco. | ||
| Oh, Northern California, Bay Area. | ||
| Well, leopards in India do that a lot. | ||
| They just snatch your dogs, man. | ||
| Everything. | ||
| But there's kids missing and shit. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Leopards are the old days of the Hollywood Hills, there's stories about kids missing. | ||
| They never figured out what happened. | ||
| That's probably a mountain lion. | ||
| There's a lot of them up in that whole park area up there. | ||
| In in Colorado, there's a family hiking and the six-year-old. | ||
| And a mountain lion came out of the bushes, grabbed that six-year-old and disappeared. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I don't know where. | ||
| Can you imagine? | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| No, I cannot imagine. | ||
| Have you seen the one that we have on the studio wall? | ||
| The one that's a photo with the cat with a Hollywood sign behind it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's wearing a collar. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| It's LA to me. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That photo is LA to me because it's completely retarded. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like everything about it is retarded. | ||
| They built in, they build them a runway. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| This one is dead, but they're building other ones of runway. | ||
| They're spending millions of dollars so they can cross the highway safety and kill dogs. | ||
| So that this fucking this thing has a collar on its neck, too. | ||
| So it's this huge mountain. | ||
| Like, Jimmy, pull that picture up. | ||
| If you can find it, please. | ||
| It's a huge mountain lion with a collar on his neck with the Hollywood sign perfectly Illuminated in the background. | ||
| It looks fake. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| But it's like this is how goofy that town is. | ||
| You have giant predators. | ||
| And instead of like killing them, when you find them, what you do is you collar them and release them so you know where they're killing everything. | ||
| That's the uh photo that we have on the wall back there. | ||
| Look at that size. | ||
| Look at his front paws and stuff. | ||
| Who took that photo? | ||
| It's like a famous photographer, right? | ||
| Give that guy his flowers. | ||
| They can jump a school bus. | ||
| They can lengthen that. | ||
| They can't. | ||
| Steve Winter. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
| Look how crazy that photo is, man. | ||
| That's a great picture. | ||
| I stare at that picture all the time, but that that represents LA to me. | ||
| Now actually 300 pounds stat, and you get a tiger. | ||
| I was in Abu Dhabi and they had they had like baby vliggers. | ||
| Oh god. | ||
| Like just at the size where you're like, okay, like if they bite you, they could start doing some damage. | ||
| Probably like you know, this big. | ||
| Like it was clearly still a baby, but it was like this big, probably like I don't know, 60 pounds. | ||
| And they're like trying to get everyone to pick them up, and uh like they go hold them. | ||
| Like if they know that you're scared, like they can sense that you're scared, they won't let you touch them. | ||
| So I'm like, give me this fucking thing. | ||
| So I picked this thing up. | ||
| And the fucking it feels like you're like trying to move around like steel cables. | ||
| Like their legs and their fucking paws. | ||
| It's like they feel like concrete. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like they're so dense. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You ever grab a chimp, a baby chimp? | ||
| No. | ||
| They made a wood. | ||
| They feel like they're wood. | ||
| Their backs feel like they're they're literally wood. | ||
| Yeah, I've talked about this one we had on news radio. | ||
| It was like a scene in news radio that wound up getting cut, but I had to do a thing with a baby chimp, and this thing climbed on my with a diaper on, climbed on my back and whacked me in the back. | ||
| Just what just playing. | ||
| Just having a good time. | ||
| Whacking me in the back. | ||
| And I was so stunned by how strong it hit me. | ||
| I was like, that is crazy. | ||
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Look at this. | |
| It felt like it was made out of wire. | ||
| Like corded like steel wire. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Just a different kind of muscle. | ||
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Yeah, but imagine that in a cat that's like on your neck. | |
| You're fine. | ||
| And you know there's this. | ||
| Slit you relax. | ||
| Bites through your scalp. | ||
| Look at this video. | ||
| Oh, I've seen that with the monkey tears the guy's head off or tears the guy's scalp apart. | ||
| Fucking goes the right. | ||
| I hate looking at that. | ||
| Yeah, don't show them. | ||
| Oh it made me put it up on the screen for everybody. | ||
| Oh, I saw this. | ||
| This is insane. | ||
| He goes to the LA and he just like pulls like half of his fucking scalp off. | ||
| Just for no reason. | ||
| Just feels like it. | ||
| Yeah, it's a bad situation. | ||
| He just felt like it. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Flack it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Guy didn't do anything wrong. | ||
| He's trying to be peaceful. | ||
| I am at peace. | ||
| I am at peace with this monkey. | ||
| Me and a monkey are good friends. | ||
| They don't make good pets. | ||
| Baboons will challenge you. | ||
| Especially the males. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And they have large teeth. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Animals. | ||
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Alright. | |
| So this gone full circle. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Um vaccinate your pets. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| I'm going to be at the Covina Laugh Factory this weekend. | ||
| Come see me. | ||
| Friday's away. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| I'll be wearing a lap coat. | ||
| If you want to learn about vaccines, come to my show at the Rubina Laugh Factory. | ||
| I'm releasing my special that I shot at the mothership. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| One month from today. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| YouTube? | ||
| Yeah, YouTube. | ||
| I've been sitting on it. | ||
| I was shopping around, but I've been sitting on it. | ||
| YouTube's the best anyway because it's access. | ||
| Access is everything. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| And uh I saw your side the other night. | ||
| It was very funny. | ||
| Thank you, buddy. | ||
| Very funny. | ||
| I don't want to say the material you were talking about, but we'll talk later. | ||
| And finally kids just dropped the Patreon. | ||
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Oh, yeah. | |
| Patreon. | ||
| Patreon.com slash T F-A-T-K. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| And you do the show totally nude on Patreon, right? | ||
| Yes, we can get big nuts out finally. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| We don't get suppressed on that. | ||
| Is Patreon surprise you like that, or would you have to go to OnlyFans if you want to show your nuts? | ||
| We were talking about me doing a Patreon where I show my nuts. | ||
| How about if it's just like red hot chili pepper style? | ||
| Yeah, but if I just put my nuts in different situations and we took we did video and pictures of just my nuts, I wonder if I make any money. | ||
| That's you're gonna make less money. | ||
| No one wants to see it. | ||
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I'd make his nuts, though. | |
| They're good. | ||
| They're big. | ||
| I got big nuts. | ||
| Well yeah, he's got 765 testosterone. | ||
| He's a thousand years old. | ||
| Um Gordon, um, your new Academy, Kingsway. | ||
| Where's it at? | ||
| Uh it's uh North Austin. | ||
| I'm not a cloud chaser chaser like these guys, so I'm not gonna talk about it. | ||
| Well, we just up in this school Kingsway. | ||
| It's up in uh North Austin off 183. | ||
| Um Kings is it Kingsway.com. | ||
| King's way Jiu Jitsu. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Kingsway jujitsu.com. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| Goodbye, everybody. | ||
| Love you guys. | ||
| Love you guys. | ||
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Bye. |
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