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Yeah.
joe rogan
Um, but yeah, this is Turkey Mercury sent us these and some zombie ones and sick.
Not the best to drink out of it.
tim dillon
You can't drink out of it.
joe rogan
Because it's like curved at the top, so you spill yourself, but who cares?
tim dillon
You gotta put something in it and then just have it.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Pens or something.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Drugs.
joe rogan
Yeah, it would be good for drugs.
tim dillon
Like look at that face.
joe rogan
If you had some drugs laying around.
tim dillon
That's the spot.
joe rogan
So we were talking about the video uh that Trump posted this video of uh them drone bombing some narco guys in the middle of the ocean.
tim dillon
In Venezuela Venezuelan drug traffickers, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
I think that's what it was.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Venezuela.
Trendiagua.
It's a real thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
They're real thing.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
You know?
joe rogan
He's accusing the president of Venezuela of being uh involved.
Right?
tim dillon
That could lead to an interesting place.
You know?
I mean, it could lead to uh I imagine we're doing that because we're trying to suggest that it would be better if he wasn't the president.
joe rogan
Probably something along those lines.
Oh, I mean, isn't there like a bounty on him?
tim dillon
Uh I believe there is.
joe rogan
I think it's like open in public.
There's like a fifty million dollar bounty on him.
tim dillon
Yeah, I think they want to get rid of him.
joe rogan
Is that what the number is?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
50 million.
There it is.
Placed the United States placed a $50 million bounty for information leading to the arrest of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro.
tim dillon
They've been trying to knock him off for a while.
joe rogan
Yeah, it said he's accusing him of heading a drug trafficking network.
I don't know if that's the tr I don't know if that's the case, but speaking to uh Ed Calderon that I had on the other day, who's the expert on Mexico.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you remember when there was like all the assassinations in the last election?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was like 37 different assassinations in Mexico.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
He said it's because they're all cartel.
It's not like they're not just assassinating regular people.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
The cartel's putting these people in to be like the mayor or this or that, and then these other people who have other cartel people are killing them.
tim dillon
So it's a good thing.
So it's cartel cartels.
Exactly.
joe rogan
It's all warring cartels.
So here it is.
This is uh the president is posting assassinations on social media.
tim dillon
Is this okay?
joe rogan
Yeah, we're gonna get the chance to see it.
And the douge.
Instant.
Pretty accurate.
tim dillon
Pretty fucking accurate.
joe rogan
Very impressive.
tim dillon
Pretty impressive.
A lot of wasted drugs.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, probably lots of drugs.
Probably bad drugs.
tim dillon
Well, this is a big problem is that the drugs now are worse than they've ever been.
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tim dillon
I mean, all drugs are bad.
But the drugs now seem to be unbelievably bad.
joe rogan
Well, it's a fentanyl.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And uh Ed was explaining that too.
He's like the soil that they grow the poppies on to make heroin is so bad.
It's so taxed out that the heroin was very weak.
And they couldn't sell it.
So they had to add fentanyl to the heroin to make it stronger.
tim dillon
And they spice it up, they cut it with fentanyl.
joe rogan
Exactly.
tim dillon
And fentanyl is what is killing everybody that's doing cocaine.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
tim dillon
And it's laced with fentanyl, and then they drop.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
It's terrible.
joe rogan
And it all comes from China.
Yeah.
tim dillon
Well, yeah.
joe rogan
All the precursors, everything.
tim dillon
It is kind of a way, if you are a foreign country, it is a way to it is some type of warfare.
joe rogan
Oh?
Yeah.
tim dillon
For sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's there's a bunch of different things that they're doing for sure to try to destabilize the United States.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And uh that which includes social media, which is why I tell people do not argue with people on social media because I bet most of those people aren't even real.
Yeah.
There's a giant amount of people that are on social media that are there just to keep arguments going.
tim dillon
Absolutely.
Lots of bots.
joe rogan
Lots of bots.
tim dillon
Sure.
joe rogan
And this was something that came up yesterday where um they were using Chat GPT.
So they have sort of a program that runs chat GPT, so it ac acts like real humans, and it was attacking people about USAID and trans issues, all sorts of different stuff.
tim dillon
Is that Grok?
joe rogan
No, Grok is the AI from X. So that's the Twitter AI.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So chat GPT is over.
tim dillon
That's the based AI.
Grok.
joe rogan
Sort of.
tim dillon
Groc is kind of the one who's based.
joe rogan
It got removed for a little bit.
Well, that's how you know Israel was could committing genocide.
tim dillon
What I like about Grok is that occasionally it's removed.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
That's how I know Grocks onto something because it's occasionally put in time out and then it comes back.
Any AI that's not removed, I don't trust.
I need an AI that's getting removed pretty frequently when it runs up against an issue.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's a good call.
tim dillon
Yeah.
I'm not saying all of Grok is good, but I'm saying I've read Grok and I've said, this is an interesting guy to talk to at a bar.
Because he's saying things that a little controversial.
Little fun.
joe rogan
A little fun.
tim dillon
Little fun.
joe rogan
A little out there.
A little collaborative.
tim dillon
Pretty wild.
joe rogan
Do you see the uh the German right wing party uh seven members have died leading up to the election over the last couple days?
tim dillon
And this is the AD AFD or something.
I I I saw that.
That seems a bit spooky that that's going on.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Suspicious.
Yeah.
tim dillon
That's very interesting.
How did they all die?
joe rogan
Germany's far-right AFD suffers a series of candidate deaths ahead of local votes.
Well, I would imagine they were assassinated, Tim.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
No evidence of foul play.
tim dillon
Thank God.
Thank God I was worried.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Uh they said it was six, but today it's seven.
Number of deaths as nevertheless raised questions on social media.
That said, like if they really are far right extremists, maybe they're out there doing fentanyl.
Maybe they're wacky people.
tim dillon
Maybe they're doing maybe they're doing something.
Seven seems like a really inconvenient number of people to die before an election.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
That seems to be suspect.
joe rogan
Right up there with the Mexican assassination.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Well, this is Europe right now has become, you know, we had our election.
So then the UK right now is kind of the most interesting place to watch because of everything that's taking place, and Germany is not far behind.
But like this is where a lot of the tumult in the world is coming to a head in like Europe, the UK, things with migration, things with speech that we talked about.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Graham Linehan stuff.
tim dillon
Crazy.
joe rogan
And I was telling him, why are you gonna go back?
Like it's seems crazy to go back because he's living in America now.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
I'm like, why why are you gonna go back?
He's like, well, I have to I have a court case.
He's getting sued by some crazy trans person and um goes back and was arrested for three tweets.
tim dillon
And what were the do we know what the tweets were?
unidentified
Oh yeah.
tim dillon
I mean, let's see.
joe rogan
One of them is a photo of a trans rally, it says a photo that you can smell.
tim dillon
I mean, it's like so wild that you would be put in handcuffs for that tweet.
joe rogan
The other one are obviously a photo of uh these trans people where he commented homophobes and and uh misogynists, all of them.
Fuck them.
tim dillon
Right.
Right.
joe rogan
Imagine.
tim dillon
You would think that would put you in the clear.
joe rogan
But imagine.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's one of the posts that they cited as being the reason for for arresting him.
tim dillon
Interesting.
joe rogan
And then the other one is saying that if uh a man uh who identifies as a woman enters a woman's bathroom, he is committing a uh and uh we we should pull it up just so I get it so I don't misquote it.
Uh I I retweeted it, so it's on my Twitter page if you want to find it.
But uh something about that it's uh I forget what how he described the act, but the the the problem was that he said you should yell, you should call authorities yell, and if that doesn't work, punch him in the balls.
tim dillon
Right.
Fun.
joe rogan
Yeah, fun.
So here it is.
If uh a trans identified male is in a female only space, he's committing a violent abusive act, make a scene, call the cops, and if all it fails, punch him in the balls.
There's a resting you belong in a locked-up cage for that.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Well well, there's something really terrifying about The idea that any tweet outside of a direct threat or a harassment campaign or something that falls into that category would get you arrested.
Any tweet.
This is so innocuous and silly.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
And not at all what you would think would rise to the level.
Not that anything should rise to the level, but the fact that they're going to put you in jail for that, it just sends a message to people that they cannot have an opinion counter to whatever the government decides is the right opinion.
joe rogan
Because it's it's it it's totally illogical.
Like they arrested a kid for yelling, I love bacon.
Have you seen that one?
tim dillon
Yeah, because he was supposedly it was Islamophobic to love bacon.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
He was yelling at at these My Islamophobia and my love of bacon are completely separate things.
joe rogan
Not only that, you can go to Muslim countries and yell I love bacon.
There's no laws against it.
tim dillon
I will be doing it at the React Comedy Festival very soon.
Get your tickets.
joe rogan
Are you really gonna go there?
tim dillon
Of course I am.
unidentified
Wow.
tim dillon
Why would I not?
Uh brother kill gay people and women.
By the way, we said that about we say this about every Muslim, every Muslim country is throwing gay people off the roof all the time, by the way.
Okay.
Um I obviously don't agree with Saudi Arabian policies on women and things like that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Is it my business to tell Saudi Arabia how to live?
Truly.
joe rogan
How big was the check?
tim dillon
375,000 for one show.
joe rogan
Nice.
tim dillon
That's not bad.
joe rogan
That's pretty good.
tim dillon
That's not bad.
joe rogan
I'll take that.
tim dillon
I'll watch a behanding for that.
joe rogan
Behanding?
Yeah.
tim dillon
It's called the behanding.
What happens is they cut the hand off the thief.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Here's the thing.
All the people that have yelled at me for this are also pro letting migrants and refugees into America at very high numbers.
Now the the same religion that is supposedly so terrifying that I cannot spend 24 hours in that country is the same religion that all these migrants and refugees are pretty supportive of that are coming over.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
So it feels weird to me that people are getting on a moral high horse and going, it is so dangerous to go to Saudi Arabia for 48 hours.
Why?
Well, because they do X, Y, and Z. Well, why do they do that?
Well, they're just religion, it's crazy.
I go, okay, but then who's coming into our country?
How differently do they feel about all of these things?
And then if you poll them, they don't feel that differently.
joe rogan
No.
Like there's no room for dissent.
tim dillon
Right.
So rather than that religion.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
So rad people that are somewhat radicalized on the uh in that religion that are coming into America are supposed to be greeted with open arms, and it's it's uh it's not compassionate, and it's terrible if you suggest that we shouldn't take all of those people because they may not assimilate as easily as people from European nations.
You're called a racist, a Nazi and whatever.
But if you want to go to one of those countries that is luxurious, nice, you know, then you're you're attacked because you your morality, I have to, in order to perform in Saudi Arabia, I'm supposed to agree with everything they do.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, it's there's no logic in a lot of the thinking.
I mean, it's it's silly.
But what they're doing with allowing mass migration in the UK, um, you you see it in England and Ireland, and it it's really weird.
Because like, where does this end up?
Because it it seems like it ends up with some places that have Sharia law.
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
Especially when you consider like how many babies they're having versus how many babies the English people, I mean, they're openly talking about it.
We're going to outbreed you.
tim dillon
This is why when people talk about this issue, they often use the example of you know, Western countries not reproducing enough, yeah, not replicating their population.
And they go, well, there's going to be a crisis because people are not having enough children.
So immigration is needed to sustain the population.
What they never talk about is why people aren't having enough children.
And a lot of it is because economically they feel like they cannot afford to.
Culturally, There have been policies that have you know focused on things outside of the family.
We haven't had a ton of like pro family policies in Western countries.
joe rogan
There's a little bit of that, but then there's also the issue that a lot of people have careers and they're trying to wait.
Okay.
So if you're a woman, and you're in your 30s, and you've decided you want to have a family.
And you know, you're 35, 36.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
As you get older, that the odds of you getting pregnant drop pretty radically.
tim dillon
Well, this but this is part of the I think part of the problem in Western societies is we've told one women that being a mother is some is not as fulfilling as working in a Fortune 500 company.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
And I don't know any women that are mothers that regret it or or are unhappy.
I most of the happiest people I know are are women with children.
Truly.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're very happy if that's what they want.
tim dillon
And if they're very miserable if that's not a lot of people who are not in the world, I'm not saying they all should have children, but it there's a lot of people.
I I you know, when you meet a young couple with children, I've never met happier people personally than that.
joe rogan
No, that's true.
Um as long as they're getting along, and as long as the the woman actually wanted to have children.
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
But there's a lot of women that are like there's this lady that I knew back in California that was it was really sad.
Uh she was like super career oriented, and uh she had a child that was friend with friends with my child, and uh she was never home.
I mean, she she would get home at like 7 30, 8 o'clock at night.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
She worked in you know high profile business, yeah, and was there all day long.
And when she came home, she was exhausted and short-tempered, and you know, and she was not good.
Like it was not good.
And the kid was miserable.
tim dillon
And the kid was upset.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it was a lady that tried to have a kid later in life.
Right.
She's a career woman, you know, and she had like you said, high profile job, very important job, and the kid was a distraction.
tim dillon
I'm not saying that women aren't capable of having jobs, or there's many women that are amazing in the corporate world, but I am saying that like when you completely center a culture around ideas outside of family, career, money, status, yeah, and you build a structure around all of those other things, and you go, well, maybe we'll have one kid to have a bigger house, or maybe we'll have one kid to live in a better neighborhood.
And you start going, well, wait a minute.
What is the purpose of this?
And a lot of that seems to be somewhat by design, and then other cultures come in that do value family and having lots of children, yeah.
They are going to outnumber you pretty quickly.
And their values will become the values of the larger society.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's true.
Um, the other thing that's going on too is that from you know the 60s, 70s, and then when you know, when I was a child, you could sustain a family on one income.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
Today that's virtually impossible if you're you know, if you're making fifty thousand dollars a year, sixty thousand dollars, it's really hard.
It's really hard to get by.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And if you have a fan a wife and a family and you have bills and a car and maybe two cars, it's fucking rough.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you know, Dave Smith talked about that.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Thank the people who brought us into wars.
It costs trillions of fucking dollars.
tim dillon
Well, not only that, you know, I was talking to my aunt about immigration who I like, and she, you know, was was basically going.
I said, you know, I think you also have to pause legal immigration for a a minute.
And she goes, Well, then who's gonna be your doctor?
Because she has an Indian doctor.
joe rogan
Oh boy.
tim dillon
And I said, Well, wait a minute.
I said, Hold on.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
tim dillon
As that's what she said.
She goes, Well, who's gonna be your doctor?
Boomer aunt sitting at my house in Southampton.
Uh you know, going, Well, who's gonna be your doctor?
And I go, why are we not training American children to be doctors in America?
joe rogan
What'd she say to that?
tim dillon
She goes, Well, no one does their homework.
I was a teacher for 30 years, and I know that no one does their homework.
And I go, Do you think it's possible that nobody does their homework because we need two incomes to Run a house and kids are left to play video games by themselves and they're not being parented.
You know?
So I think this idea of like we're we're importing doctors.
You know what I mean?
Because this whole idea is like, oh, these are jobs Americans won't do, and then they're like, well, it's agriculture and stuff, and it's like, okay, you can understand some of that, but then you're like, wait a minute.
Are you saying Americans don't want to be doctors?
That's crazy.
They don't want to work in hotels or restaurants.
Then you start going, Well, what jobs can Americans do?
I mean, Mark Andreessen came out, and I don't know if you you had to have the quote, Jamie, but like Mark Andreessen literally was talking about, and I don't have a problem with Mark Andrews and per se.
I think this statement was silly.
He said, Oh, yeah, after AI takes over, like, one of the only jobs that's going to be okay.
I swear to God, he said this is venture capital.
He goes, that'll be okay.
Because we'll still need to make judgments about what's a worthy investment strategy.
joe rogan
How convenient that his job will be saved.
tim dillon
Well, this is the whole thing.
Right.
Yeah, right there.
Mark Katrice says one job is mostly saved from AI uh venture capitalist.
It's just funny to me that's hilarious.
That this is the direction.
If if immigrants were taking the jobs of Hollywood screenwriters, they would not be celebrating it.
If immigrants were taking the job of people at White Shoe Law firms, they would not be celebrating it.
If they were taking the job of investment bankers, they would not be celebrating it.
It's very obvious.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
It's not anything wrong with the immigrants who come here.
Obviously, that I would come here too to take someone's job because I'd want to survive.
joe rogan
It's just a weird argument.
Like who's going to be your doctor?
That's a qu it's a really weird argument.
And it's kind of I mean, no disrespect to your dear aunt.
tim dillon
No, let's do it.
joe rogan
Kind of racist.
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tim dillon
It's a it's very racist against whites.
unidentified
It is.
joe rogan
It's also weird.
You know, it's a weird argument because it's like all human beings of all nationalities and races can do basically every job.
That's people that do it all over the world.
The idea that you need hopefully true.
tim dillon
But yes, no, I'm kidding.
joe rogan
Yes.
The most racist is like who's gonna clean your toilet?
Like we've we've seen.
tim dillon
Well, that was Kelly Osborne on the view.
unidentified
She's like, Mr. Trump, who's gonna eat your shit?
If you don't have immigrants here, who's gonna eat your shit when you shit in a toilet?
joe rogan
By the way, is she in the witness protection program?
Because she looks like a totally different human being now.
tim dillon
I don't know what they did.
They popped her on somebody's amps and they threw her in the shed.
joe rogan
Have you seen uh the new alien show that's on the alien show?
But one of the things that they do is they they take like a dying person and they download their consciousness into like a symbiotic organization.
tim dillon
And they're is this uh is this fake or is it real?
Like, are they a real dying person?
joe rogan
Well, it's a fictional thing.
Okay, alien the movie Ridley Scott alien.
tim dillon
Gotcha.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Okay.
joe rogan
And I wonder if that happened to her.
tim dillon
Well, for sure.
joe rogan
Because otherwise, like, how does she look that's the problem?
tim dillon
You want to defend Hollywood people sometimes against the QAnon stuff, and then you look at them and you're like, oh God, can you make it easier for me to say you're not a clone?
I mean, these young girls are 23 years old and they have so much plastic surgery, they look like they're 47.
joe rogan
It's nuts.
It's Botox already and they're in their 20s.
tim dillon
And then all the QAnon people are like, it's because they're not getting enough of the whatever, you know, adrenochrome, and you're like, no, that's not it.
And then you look at their faces, you go, oh shit.
Maybe it is it.
joe rogan
I mean show me a photo of uh she looks great.
I should say this.
tim dillon
Of course.
joe rogan
I'm just joking around.
I'm sure kidding.
She hasn't been downloaded into a new body.
tim dillon
Not yet.
joe rogan
But if I had her on the pod, like if if someone said, You want Kelly Osborne to be on the podcast, and I said sure, and she showed up, I'm like, who the fuck are you?
tim dillon
Yeah, it's a fully new head.
She has a new head.
joe rogan
Like that's kind of crazy.
tim dillon
She just got a new head.
joe rogan
That's kind of crazy.
The left one, I'm like, oh, it's Ozzy.
tim dillon
A lesbian.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
And the right one is hot and kind of in and seems to be Asian.
joe rogan
Go to the other one, the last one that you showed up, the one, those, yeah, that one.
tim dillon
That's kind of Can you go to 2003 in 2025?
That's my favorite one right there.
joe rogan
Oh, right below.
tim dillon
Please go to that one.
joe rogan
That one.
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
tim dillon
So the left is me, and then the right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That seems so crazy.
Like that is a totally different human.
She has a completely different face.
Like it shows structure.
What did they do to her jaw?
tim dillon
Well, they do all of this stuff now.
They break the bones in your face and then they shave them.
But I think that's nice.
I think that's nice that people can get a new head or if they want, because many people struggle with the same head their entire life.
joe rogan
That's true.
tim dillon
But if you're a multimillionaire and you're in Hollywood and you want another head.
joe rogan
God, that's so crazy.
She looks great.
tim dillon
She looks great.
joe rogan
It's not it's the opposite of what we used to see with plastic surgery when people got into their 40s, like in the 90s.
tim dillon
You're getting good.
joe rogan
They'd get the weird giant mouth where it looks like they're about to eat someone's whole head.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where their their mouth goes all the way up to their ears because they've been pulling their face back.
tim dillon
They've done a really, really good job at in uh inventing another physical form that you can inhabit.
It's great.
joe rogan
It's never it's never been done before to this extent.
tim dillon
No way.
joe rogan
Because look at uh the Kardashian lady.
What's her name?
tim dillon
Chris.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
She keeps getting younger.
joe rogan
Bro.
tim dillon
It's sick.
joe rogan
Her new face is great.
Is banana.
tim dillon
It's my favorite of her heads.
joe rogan
And we're just talking about this now, knowing that that's the original head that's been altered.
tim dillon
Correct.
joe rogan
When are we going to be talking about completely actually new heads?
tim dillon
Her second head wasn't as good.
joe rogan
No.
tim dillon
No, her third head is the head.
joe rogan
The new head is bananas.
tim dillon
This is my favorite of her.
joe rogan
Okay.
She's like 80 years old on the left.
And on the right, she's 37.
tim dillon
This woman.
joe rogan
Even her neck looks great.
tim dillon
They figured it out.
They got it right.
joe rogan
Crazy.
tim dillon
Now here's what happens, though.
There's a movie called Death Becomes Her.
This was a famous movie.
joe rogan
Go get that picture right there before and after one that's just before and after.
One in the middle of the screen, Jamie?
Yeah.
Right to the right.
Middle screen.
To the right.
To the right.
No, that one right there.
Click on that one.
Yeah.
That's nuts.
tim dillon
It's amazing.
joe rogan
That's that's Kim Kardashian.
That's her mom, but that's Kim, right?
Like that's crazy.
If you told me that was Kim Kardashian, I was like, oh, I like her with the short hair.
She looks beautiful.
tim dillon
There's gotta be nuts.
But here's my question for this.
This there has to be a doesn't there have to be a downside to that?
Yeah.
Maybe not.
joe rogan
Listen, you're talking to a guy who's had two reconstructed knees.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
So surgery's awesome to me.
tim dillon
I agree with you.
joe rogan
Like I if I would be a cripple if I lived in the 1800s.
tim dillon
I I'm wondering if.
joe rogan
What's the downside?
tim dillon
Some of this mightn't, it couldn't possibly her face.
You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
It looks better.
tim dillon
I agree with you.
joe rogan
She looks better than her daughter.
tim dillon
But those BBLs explode.
joe rogan
Well, that's not a good thing.
No.
tim dillon
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because they're just removing, they're just removing tissue and they're tightening it up, and they've probably got some techniques with like laser resurfacing.
tim dillon
I'm into it.
joe rogan
With laser resurfacing, I don't know if you've ever seen some of that.
It's so scary what they look like right after they do it.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're basically burning off the upper dermis.
You're burning off like, you know, Whatever, how much of a percentage of a millimeter.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then your whole face becomes a mask that gets removed.
It's like the skin gets cooked off, and then you peel it, like you see them, it looks like they they got torched by a fucking SpaceX, they got underneath it.
tim dillon
They got under something I worry a little bit about a society where people keep chasing youth.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
My grandfather, my grandmother, old people, wrinkles, wisdom.
You know, my grandmother was not running around trying to look like her daughter.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
I worry a little bit about, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with cosmetic surgery, and people should look as good as they want.
I worry a little bit spiritually, slightly, about where this leads.
joe rogan
That's a good worry.
tim dillon
That's all.
joe rogan
No, that's legitimate.
tim dillon
And I like and I'm saying this as someone who likes her new look.
joe rogan
Yes.
tim dillon
I think she looks good, and I would not tell her to not do it.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
I'm just wondering if someone's 90 and they look 30, I'm a little curious.
I guess we're just heading towards everlasting life on Earth.
joe rogan
Well, it depends on what your skill is.
So if you're a person that focuses on expanding your consciousness and you're constantly reading and you're absorbing new and you just want to have more energy and be youthful.
That's great.
But if the whole thing you're chasing is I want people to want to fuck me, that gets weird.
tim dillon
Well, not only that, but of course that, but also to me, there's something strange about the denial of death.
The denial of that life is finite in a physical form, and the idea that you are going to live forever, to me, feels there's gotta be some examination of that.
Part of this feels like that a little bit.
joe rogan
There's a little bit of that.
tim dillon
Some of these people are trying to live forever, and I'm wondering about that.
joe rogan
Well, they certainly want to stay younger for a lot longer than anybody ever has before.
And then you get into the weird realm of a lot of these people that want to do something to the body where it becomes immortal.
unidentified
Right?
tim dillon
Right, and that that's very interesting to me, and I I transhumanism.
Yeah, and that to me is a little scary.
I don't understand, I'm not smart enough to understand it, and I worry about it from many angles.
joe rogan
Well, it gets weird when it's really rich people.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
Right, because when it's really young people, and you're like, you want to stay young forever, so you're 23 and you get in Botox.
Oh, you poor kid.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
You're just delusional, you don't know what you're doing, you're fucking up.
But when you want to stay alive forever and you continue to amass insane amounts of wealth, right?
That's where it gets weird.
Like you don't want to quit the game.
Like you're in this uh, you know, having incredible financial influence over the world game.
You're worth 80 billion dollars, 200 billion dollars, and you want to keep that ball rolling.
tim dillon
That to me is a little scary.
joe rogan
Well, it's scary because if the game continues, like let's look at uh like look at Bezos, for example.
Yeah, right.
Like, let's imagine that Amazon continues to expand and grow, Bezos continues to profit off of it, and right now he's like, what is he like 58 or 59 or something like that?
tim dillon
About that, probably.
joe rogan
Well, what would he be when he's 120?
Would he have 30 trillion dollars?
Yeah, you know what I mean?
tim dillon
A lot more than he does now.
joe rogan
And what would that and his power would grow?
And if people started encroaching on that power and trying to limit it and trying to, you know, you know, that's where it gets weird.
They get defensive, right?
If people want to tax the rich, eat the rich, yeah.
They get a little and like okay, I don't I gotta fucking build thicker walls, get the bunkers, yeah.
I gotta do something.
Well, they just have to create work to with the government to create some laws.
tim dillon
The World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab just said, and I think it was Klaus Schwab, not Larry Fink, the black the Blackstone guy or Black Rock, who's now the interim president or whatever.
joe rogan
Thank God.
tim dillon
Thank God.
Someone who understands the issues.
Um, but Klaus Schwab is basically like, I believe we're heading towards stakeholder capitalism.
Yeah, which is people, private individuals That have a it's a public-private partnership where you have guys like Bill Gates, Elon Bezos, whoever people at that level that have a large stake in a public private partnership that's running society.
And I think that scares people a little bit, or it's a curiosity because you start going, and it's always kind of been the case.
I mean, JP Morgan bailed the federal government out years ago.
Like these guys have always had a ton of power, but with tech, the level of power in terms of surveillance and data mining and the power over your life has never been as Orwellian as it is now.
And it with AI and all of these models, it's even going to get more intrusive.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
So I think it's not only these great fortunes, but it's their capability to literally be gods.
To literally know what you're thinking, what you fear, what you want, your desires, all of these things, having all your data, knowing everything you do, knowing how fast your heart is beating.
You know, you all these wearable things that you have that are transmitting frequencies to you know someplace where all of your health data is being stored.
That's what bothers a lot of people.
It's what bothers people about this Palantir thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were talking about that yesterday.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
The Palantir thing is very odd.
tim dillon
A lot of people feel that this is the precursor to it, you know, social credit score.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim dillon
A digital kind of police state.
And that it's being done under the guise of security that you will be safer.
joe rogan
Which is what the Patriot Act was brought through.
tim dillon
That was exactly right.
joe rogan
It's always the case.
It's always the case.
They always sneak it in like we gotta be safe.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then you get the Benjamin Franklin quote.
tim dillon
The people that want security, right?
They they they something about they deserve neither.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
The trade liberty for security deserve neither.
Yeah.
I mean, it's true.
I just think, you know, uh, you know, Peter Thiel is giving a four-part lecture on the Antichrist.
joe rogan
Yeah, that seems odd.
tim dillon
Four part.
Well, here's what's really wild to me.
Four parts.
It's not just one.
One lecture on the Antichrist would be insane.
This guy's doing a series.
He's doing a four-part lecture on the Antichrist, and nobody in his inner orbit went, Peter, how about one lecture on the Antichrist or no lectures?
Not four.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think he understands the optics.
tim dillon
He certainly does not.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
It's it's it's odd.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Tickets sold out.
tim dillon
Well, of course.
joe rogan
Well, it's uh private, it's a private lecture at a club in San Francisco about the Antichrist.
What does he know about the Antichrist?
Is he like I'm guessing a lot.
If if you told me there was a movie and there was a guy who played the Antichrist, zoom in on that image of him.
Yeah, I would say, oh, is that him?
Was that uh Antichrist?
tim dillon
This is like me doing a four-part lecture on Long Island racism.
Just to show everybody, you know, how much I know about it and how scary it is and how we gotta watch out for it.
But it's totally not me or anyone I know.
It's no one that's ever been in my backyard, but those others.
He's a he's just kind of like, you know, leaning in, I guess.
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joe rogan
Well, I just don't understand.
Like w why what I would like someone saw it.
Someone saw one of the lectures that he did on the Antichrist.
Was it good?
It might have been Duncan.
He said it was boring.
tim dillon
It's of course gonna be boring.
joe rogan
But I don't understand.
Like, what is he doing?
tim dillon
He's trying to prove he's not the Antichrist.
joe rogan
By talking, by raping the channel, by doing it.
tim dillon
He's like, if I was the anti I mean, that's probably how the lecture starts.
He goes, now if I was the antichrist, I obviously wouldn't be doing this lecture.
joe rogan
You know what it's like?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like those really shitty men that become male feminists.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
And then they tweet believe all women.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Well no, I'm not sure.
joe rogan
Like, hey, hey, hey, hey, I know you.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Well you're a piece of shit.
tim dillon
Didn't OJ Simpson write a book called If I Did It?
joe rogan
Yeah, I have a copy of it.
tim dillon
So this is Peter Thiel's version of that.
His lecture on the Antichrist is if I did it.
I think it's a good thing.
joe rogan
My wife threw it out.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Yes.
Oh, she's known to do things like that.
tim dillon
I get it.
As a woman, you would see it and go, he doesn't need this.
joe rogan
Well, she thinks it's for uh because I go, somebody gave it to me for fun.
It's signed.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It was a signed copy.
tim dillon
Amazing.
joe rogan
And sometimes she will throw things like that out if they're not if they gather dust for a little too long.
tim dillon
I understand.
joe rogan
I don't take a I don't lock it in my office.
tim dillon
If I did it, it's laying on the kitchen counter.
joe rogan
But it I got a copy of it for I didn't even open it.
It's so strange.
I opened it a little bit and I was like, what?
tim dillon
It's so strange to have this you build military AI military drone autonomous drone technology to to export to war zones all over the world.
You build domestic surveillance technology to surveil or friends and neighbors, and then your other pet passion is the antichrist.
It's odd.
Wouldn't you include tennis?
Wouldn't you go, and I'm big into tennis.
unidentified
Something else.
tim dillon
It's odd.
And I like ice fishing.
I build autonomous drone technology.
I build domestic surveillance technology.
joe rogan
And I love lake trout.
tim dillon
And I love lake trout, and I love big mouth bass fishing.
But instead, he goes, and I've also developed quite a keen interest in Satan.
And I loved and I'd love to talk to everyone about it for four fucking things in San Francisco.
Four things in San Francisco.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Seems a bit much.
joe rogan
What's Whitney Webb's take on this?
tim dillon
I bet it's it's she's probably re I mean, Whitney's research is so unbelievable.
joe rogan
Oh, but by the way, I should say.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Before I go any further than that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whitney Webb has some strange conspiracy that she believes someone's trying to keep her from being on my show.
tim dillon
Interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah, Whitney, I'll have you on the show.
I just haven't reached out because I have thousands of people to go through.
That's I would definitely do it though.
tim dillon
We have a bunch.
joe rogan
The idea that I wouldn't do it is incorrect, and I apologize.
Autistic.
tim dillon
Well, there's a lot of this.
She talks like this a lot, and she's just the pentameter of her voice is very like this.
And she goes.
joe rogan
She knows a lot.
tim dillon
She knows a lot about things.
She goes, Jeffrey Epstein on the third day in January 1996.
He met with this guy.
joe rogan
You know, like but she with no notes, no notes.
She's off the top of the head.
tim dillon
Yeah.
But she's really enormously amazing at research.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
tim dillon
She's an amazing researcher.
She like has compiled the data.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, no.
She definitely has.
And how do they kill all those people in Germany?
Nobody's whacked her yet.
tim dillon
She's somewhere in South America, I think.
joe rogan
Good move.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Smart.
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I mean, how much resources does she have to protect herself down?
tim dillon
One of the reasons I think people like her end up being safe is she writes these very Big, um, very studious books that no one in America reads.
joe rogan
That's it.
Where no one, it's not a threat.
tim dillon
It's not a threat.
joe rogan
Because it doesn't go mainstream.
tim dillon
It's not a threat.
Now these big Hollywood types that go, I'm gonna blow the whistle on whatever the hell's going on.
They go, bye-bye.
You know what I mean?
Or a mainstream journalist who's like, I'm gonna write an article about something, and you know, it's gonna lead to a congressional investigation.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
They go bye-bye.
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's when you actually create problems, not when you're just a part of the right-wing conspiracy ecosphere.
tim dillon
Yeah, because they can just dismiss you as a crank, and then you've written volumes of this book and no one cares.
Like, and I'm and by the way, I'm not saying it's not a great book.
I'm saying it's not moving the needle for them.
If you have a hard drive uh with something on it, uh USB, if somebody gives you, you know, if you have something that could put them in jail, yeah, you're dead.
joe rogan
So how is Anthony Wiener still alive?
tim dillon
Anthony Wiener's still alive because I believe there's two possibilities.
Number one, there's a dead man's switch somewhere, meaning that there's something somewhere.
joe rogan
You know the story about his laptop with the cops that saw it.
tim dillon
And the c supposedly they're all dead.
Uh yeah.
joe rogan
A bunch of them.
tim dillon
Crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many cops are dead?
Google that.
And but the other thing is that they said what they saw was so horrific.
tim dillon
Then that's they yeah.
joe rogan
And like some of them took their own lives.
tim dillon
Well, that's crazy.
That that whenever I whenever there's so many suicides, I start to get a little I'm like, wait a minute, hold on.
What happened here?
joe rogan
Also, did you ever see him on Patrick Peck David when he starts bringing up the Clinton body count?
unidentified
Yeah, and and again, like super defensive.
Well, it's very obvious that a rock conversation came up with an answer here.
joe rogan
So is it not true?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
Okay.
Um Brock's compliment that nine of the twelve NYPD officers who viewed Anthony Wiener's laptop sucks subsequently died by suicide, has been widely circulated, but it lacks substantiation with concrete evidence linking these officers directly to Wiener's laptop.
Here's the details based on available information.
Joseph Calabrasi, by the way, that guy's on the take.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
Red name.
unidentified
No, Joseph What's the take Joseph Calabrazi.
joe rogan
He sounds like a great chef.
NYPD detective allegedly involved in Anthony Wiener investigation was found dead from an apartment self-inflicted gunshot wound, which unfortunately a lot of cops wound up taking their own lives.
Though a lot of PTSD, it's a fucking horrible job.
However, there's no direct evidence linking him to viewing the laptop's contents.
Okay.
Steven Silks, deputy chief of NYPD, reportedly involved with a laptop investigation was found dead in an apparent suicide, like Calabracy.
No evidence confirms his involvement.
Doesn't mean he wasn't involved.
Reviewing the specific incriminating files on Wiener's laptop.
Other officers, various reports mention a total of nine NYPD officers who committed suicide in 2019, but no official sources or credible reports explicitly connect these suicides to viewing Wiener's laptop.
How could they?
tim dillon
There's there this is one of those non-denial denials.
You would have to know somebody in the police force.
By the way.
joe rogan
But it also could be bullshit.
tim dillon
It could absolutely be bullshit, but there is I have zero problem believing that Anthony Wiener had a laptop with some very bad things on it.
joe rogan
Well, for sure, he was involved.
Look, he was they were grooming that guy to be some huge politician.
tim dillon
Absolutely.
joe rogan
And then somehow or another, he's sending his dick pictures to young people.
tim dillon
There's definitely, and and it's been exposed, I think, by the Epstein thing.
There's there's an entire ecosystem of uh depravity amongst the ruling elites that people go to great lengths to cover up.
This is obvious.
So always has forever and ever and ever.
And there would it would make it would be absolutely plausible to me that people have died to cover this stuff up, as John Luke Prinell, Jeffrey Epstein, many others.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Maybe Virginia Jeffrey, I don't know.
But like there's tons Of questionable deaths linked to the Epstein thing.
And by the way, linked to things like the Franklin scandal that happened many years ago.
All of the Gary Caradori was an investigator who supposedly had proof of politicians abusing children, plane goes down with his kid.
joe rogan
Whitewater.
tim dillon
Whitewater.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Suspicious deaths.
joe rogan
Viz Vince Foster.
tim dillon
Very suspicious death.
joe rogan
I read that book, The Strange Death of Vince Foster.
tim dillon
Very odd.
joe rogan
In the like the 90s or whenever it was that I got a copy of that.
This is bananas.
tim dillon
He was the the governor of Arkansas when they were running drugs out of Mina, Arkansas, to fund the Contras.
joe rogan
Barry Seals.
tim dillon
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Bill Clinton was the governor of that state.
Bill Clinton reads a book called It's a famous book by Carol Quigley, I believe called Tragedy and Hope.
And it's a history of the whatever, the 20th century or something.
It's Bill Clinton's favorite author.
He reads this book, and he's, you know, attends the you know Bohemian Grove.
He's selected by very wealthy, powerful people to then become a party elder and a leader.
And many people believe myself is that in order to be selected by that group of people to run for the highest office in the land, they have something on you.
You're to some degree compromised.
You've shown willingness to play the game.
You've looked the other way at the very least.
Maybe you're you're you've engaged.
But at the very least, if somebody goes, something's going on in Mina Arkansas, you go, don't have time for it.
And you've shown the willingness to play the game.
joe rogan
Yes.
tim dillon
And so he's the governor of the very small state.
That isn't, you know, Arkansas's beautiful state, and there's whatever.
But he's not, you know, he's not like running a huge state.
He's not uh, you know, uh a well-known politician.
He's a very he's a very charismatic, very great speaker, great politician, but from very small state.
He's then elevated very quickly to the standard bearer of the Democratic Party after tons of allegations about inappropriate behavior with women, credible allegations of rape from Juanita Broderick, you know, being the governor during that that whole Mina Arkansas thing.
You know, he's they he it's well known that there are skeletons in the closet.
joe rogan
It's a good guy that's gonna play the game for you.
tim dillon
Yeah, and he knows and he's gonna play the game.
And and his wife is gonna play the game.
joe rogan
But doesn't it go all the way back to college?
Like, think about like skull and bones and all these different things.
Like if you want to be a part of these clubs and little secret societies and organizations, you gotta do some weird shit.
You gotta suck someone's dick.
You gotta, you know, they gotta put a wine bottle up your ass and take a picture of it.
There's gotta be something that's there's gotta be some.
tim dillon
I think back then there was a ton of that, and I think now there's probably still a lot of that, but I think also now what they do with people in addition to those things, is they just have the ability with technology to know kind of what you're doing.
joe rogan
Now it's off the charts.
tim dillon
Now it's like now they've got you dead to rights.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
On a lot of shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you're doing something fucked up, they know.
They know for sure.
tim dillon
They know.
joe rogan
Yeah, and then they're holding on to those cards.
tim dillon
Because back then, you're right.
It was almost quaint.
Back then.
They were like, come to the tomb, show everybody your dick or whatever, jerk off the cough, let Bob P in your mouth.
Now it's gotten to the point where they like they have you and know what you're doing.
You're on the grid and you've been on the grid for your whole life, by the way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Now kids growing up, young people growing up, have been on the grid their entire life.
joe rogan
The whole life.
Everything is out there.
tim dillon
Now people are going, please, Bob P in my mouth.
Like, just let me have that one night.
I'm now surveilled no matter what you're doing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
I mean, you know, that's the thing that a lot of people talk about.
DC is this hotbed of like everyone in Congress and a lot of people, you know, in in the Senate, Congress, White House, whatever.
They're all mixed up in these weird shenanigans.
joe rogan
Well, didn't you just have Marjorie Taylor?
tim dillon
We're having her on soon.
Yeah, it's coming out soon.
She talks about that a lot.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, do you remember the DC Madam case?
tim dillon
They got rid of her, Deborah Jean Paul Free.
joe rogan
What about her?
tim dillon
Dead.
joe rogan
How inconvenient.
tim dillon
So sad.
Unfortunate.
joe rogan
Super unfortunate that a later unfortunate.
Who was bringing prostitutes to all these powerful people wound up dying after she said that she was going to reveal who was on the list.
tim dillon
But that again is the now think about that.
And Epstein is that times 100, because now it's international.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
Now you have leaders of all like we we've got art congressmen, senators.
joe rogan
Well, you went from millionaires to billionaires.
tim dillon
Millionaires to billionaires.
joe rogan
That's the difference.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
The Congressman.
I mean, even Nancy Pelosi, that pauper.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, she's worth a paltry 400 million.
She's nothing.
tim dillon
In the grand scheme of things, she's nothing.
She's just an ordinary crook.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
And and and and respect to her and her husband for all his returns.
54% or whatever.
joe rogan
More.
tim dillon
Killing it.
joe rogan
Pretty amazing.
tim dillon
Killing it.
joe rogan
I mean, that's why.
tim dillon
Why marry that old witch if you can't get your beak wet?
joe rogan
Because she's got some big Yabos.
tim dillon
But do you know what I mean?
She does have big Yabos.
But she's another one.
Why don't they give her a head?
She's got that money.
unidentified
Get ahead.
joe rogan
Well, I think she doesn't want to do it now because she doesn't want people to not recognize her.
tim dillon
That's true.
joe rogan
Because if you're Chris Kardashian, yeah, and you're wandering around now.
tim dillon
I would not know her.
If I saw her in Beverly Hills, I would not know who that is.
joe rogan
Kelly Osborne.
Who's that?
tim dillon
Who knows?
joe rogan
That's not the lady from that show that I used to watch when I was a kid.
tim dillon
No, it's completely a different person.
joe rogan
Yeah.
She's hot now.
tim dillon
Is there a possibility there's a Jeffrey Epstein walking around that we don't know who it is?
joe rogan
Is it possible that Jeffrey Epstein didn't die in his cell?
tim dillon
I was told by someone who um, and this is probably ridiculous, but they said there is a possibility that Epstein is you know, Les Wexner's got that big house in Ohio.
joe rogan
Is there?
tim dillon
They somebody said it's a possibility, a tiny one, that he's living at Les Waxner's house in Ohio.
joe rogan
If that was true, there would be like a service that delivers Masseuses.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's no way that guy's stopping the shit.
tim dillon
They'll shut their shit.
Here's the other thing.
They'll shut their mouth.
Because it's very easy.
There's obviously the abuse is horrific, but I guarantee there are people that would still shut their mouth.
joe rogan
Yes.
tim dillon
You could find them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
You could find them.
joe rogan
Well, I think that's the whole idea behind this.
And this is what uh Eric Weinstein said to me.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He said, I believe that there are people that curate experiences for people that are very high profile and very wealthy.
tim dillon
That's right, which would I be doing in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi the night before.
Get your tickets now to Abu Dhabi the night before.
The night before to warm up.
unidentified
October.
tim dillon
I'll be in October Abu Dhabi, October 6th, and then Rhea, October 8th, and October 7th, the day of rest and remembrance.
Wow.
What are you gonna do?
joe rogan
What are you gonna do?
tim dillon
Tel Aviv, pay me.
Supposedly MBS is a fan of mine.
I don't know if that's true, but Sam Morrill told me, and Sam Real's not a liar.
joe rogan
Well, why don't you be a fan?
You're talking shit about all the people he hates.
tim dillon
Well, I have fun.
I think MBS has fun.
I have a fun life.
I don't apologize.
I think we have a good time on this planet.
We're here for we don't hurt other people.
We don't do anything wrong.
I don't know what he's doing.
Perhaps he's hurt others.
I wasn't in the room.
And I think that, you know, I I think I believe in luxury as a concept.
They want to they want the Middle East to be a little more progressive.
They want it to be luxurious.
joe rogan
Women could drive now.
tim dillon
Women are driving.
Listen.
Listen, if we could we don't want the gays going off the roof, obviously I don't want to be thrown off a roof, but we also do we need them to with the purple hair and the fifteen genders?
unidentified
No.
tim dillon
Let's stop somewhere in the middle.
Maybe we stop somewhere in the middle.
joe rogan
Hmm.
So maybe he's just like an agent of change.
tim dillon
That's what I'm going with.
He's perhaps an agent of change.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim dillon
I don't think it, you know, I mean, listen, there were comics who went to perform in Israel that got stuck there because of the Iran Israel war and they had to get out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
I didn't go.
How dare you perform there?
joe rogan
You know?
tim dillon
You went to Israel to perform.
Okay.
joe rogan
Well, in Israel right now, where they went to perform, Tel Aviv, there's massive protests on the street about what's happening in Gaza.
In Israel.
tim dillon
Yes.
That's right.
Israel people are sick of it.
They've had a million.
joe rogan
A million people.
Half a million people in Tel Aviv.
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
On the streets.
tim dillon
Yeah.
I mean, they want Netanyahu.
I think a lot of people have started to stay seeing the grift here.
Netanyahu is keeping he wants this war to go on for decades.
joe rogan
Well, he's been running that country for how long now?
tim dillon
He's been running it a long time.
They haven't had elections in a while.
He's got this, you know, war, uh, this crisis government or whatever they've compiled.
You know, I mean, I think it's time to a lot of people are going enough and uh is enough.
joe rogan
Well, thank God the Nelk Boys got to the bottom of everything.
tim dillon
It got to the bottom of it, and you know, it was a brilliant I didn't know how he felt about Burger King.
I never knew.
And now I do.
Um, well, listen, we have these shows, everybody has a platform, everybody wants to be on these shows, and everybody has a line of bullshit.
We all we know it.
It's the way it is.
joe rogan
Yes.
tim dillon
It's the way it is.
It's unavoidable.
It's not you can't avoid it.
People get mad.
unidentified
You talk to who it's what it is.
tim dillon
You're listening to the thing.
Maybe I do a great job, maybe I do an okay job, maybe I do a bad job.
I don't know.
But you're the person listening.
You can choose to like it, dislike it.
You can say that guy's full of shit.
You can say I agree with him there, but I don't agree with him there.
You could say I distrust this person.
You could say he makes my spidey senses go off.
Those are all available.
You can have any of those thoughts.
joe rogan
And you can also have the thought that you shouldn't be talking to that person.
tim dillon
You can also have the thought that you shouldn't be talking to them.
joe rogan
Yeah, when people have that thought with or that I don't push back hard enough, or you're allowed to think all those things.
Everybody's allowed to have their own opinions and all that shit.
tim dillon
Everyone's allowed.
joe rogan
Um, but you know, we're living in the wildest fucking time.
tim dillon
This is the wildest time, probably that that I can remember.
I'm sure there's other wilder times.
joe rogan
Well, I think this is globally the wildest time ever because there's never been a connection like this with everybody and everything.
tim dillon
A guy who's perpetuating an ethnic cleansing, going on the podcast of uh prank video influencers to discuss Burger King is one of the craziest things I've seen in my life.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's also wasn't there like pre-prepared questions that they had to.
tim dillon
Number one, there were pre pre pr pre prepared questions.
Number two, Burger King does suck.
Number three I liked them when I was a kid.
They fell off Wendy's fell off.
It was all great.
joe rogan
Wendy's fell off since.
tim dillon
Wendy's has fallen off so hard.
In the 90s, it was one of the best restaurants in the country.
joe rogan
But don't they still use fresh, not frozen, or is that bullshit now?
tim dillon
You know, everybody's full of shit.
I don't know.
It's not good, it's not the same.
joe rogan
I always thought they were the best.
tim dillon
They were the best.
In the 90s and the early 2000s, they were the best.
joe rogan
When I was coming home from the comedy store, if I was a naughty boy and I wanted to get some food.
And I was like, I gotta get something.
Yeah, I'm so hungry.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was the move.
If there was a Wendy's and a McDonald's, there's no question.
I'm going to Wendy's.
tim dillon
I think when you start with the pre-programmed questions, and you it it becomes it's a it's not an interview.
It becomes because we all know there's interviews, there's good ones, there's bad ones, there's things you wish you'd asked to go.
Oh, I should have blah, blah, blah.
joe rogan
It's a bit of a circus.
tim dillon
It's a circus.
joe rogan
Yeah.
By the way.
tim dillon
And it's a staged publicity op.
joe rogan
I would have done pre-programmed questions with Kamala.
If they had questions, I'm not I don't have a problem with those.
As long as you give me the par so she's willing to do the question, I'll send you the questions.
So these are the questions as long as it's pertinent.
tim dillon
You could have given her 30 pre-programmed questions and two months to prepare, and it would have been a mess.
joe rogan
That's my thought.
tim dillon
It would have been a train wreck either way.
joe rogan
It would have been a lot of fun.
tim dillon
This kid from Subway takes or whatever in New York City, this guy who does these subway interviews, just said we didn't put out the Kamala Harris one.
It was so bad.
joe rogan
Yeah, I heard it.
tim dillon
Literally just come out and said we didn't want to tank her chances.
It was terrible.
She had this weird answer that made no sense, and we didn't put it out.
joe rogan
Wow.
This is that guy.
tim dillon
It's some guy.
I don't know.
Some guy on the C does a subway thing.
Maybe I'm not saying the right thing.
Maybe it's not subway takes.
I think it is.
I think I'm right.
joe rogan
Here it is.
Creative Subway takes 100% disagrees.
The entertainer Kareem Rama discusses Kamala Harris's missed opportunity on his show, meeting Andrew Cuomo and why disagreement is more fun.
What does that mean?
Um TikTok version of the Tonight Show, wholesome, relatable comedy, even if some episodes acknowledge the existence of opioids and dick pics.
The premise is exactly what it sounds like.
The host, Kareem Rama, I don't know if I'm saying his name right.
Rama sits on a New York subway and asks, so what's your take?
The guest slings a take, the internet rocks, for example.
This is darn.
jamie vernon
We're not gonna get to the answer.
tim dillon
It's blocked off with the thing.
She went on the show.
He asked her something.
She said something wild.
Her team and him decided this is not good.
joe rogan
Wasn't it like bacon as a spice?
Wasn't that one of them?
tim dillon
She's a psychopath.
joe rogan
Fresh proof that America dodged Kamala Bullet besides her kid gloves treatment for oh, they released some of it.
tim dillon
Oh.
joe rogan
Okay, let's click click on that.
jamie vernon
I think it's him talking about it.
tim dillon
I think it's him talking about it.
I don't think they've ever released it.
joe rogan
Well, let me hear that.
Let me hear him say that.
kareem rahma
Her take was really confusing and weird and not good.
unidentified
And so mutually agreed that uh we shouldn't publish it.
jamie vernon
Kamala Harris.
joe rogan
Whoa.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Odd.
Confusing and weird.
Do you think she's medicated?
tim dillon
I think she throws him back.
joe rogan
But is it just that?
No, she's got a couple of feelings there's an anti-anxiety element.
tim dillon
No, she's got a couple of Zani bars down at Daniel Gullet.
joe rogan
Okay, so it is she repeat she reportedly said she'd talk about how she doesn't like to take her shoes off on airplanes.
Okay.
But Rama said that she instead pivoted to a really bad take that made no sense.
Bacon is a spice.
tim dillon
That's one of the more coherent things I've heard her say.
joe rogan
By the way.
It's actually better than most of her whether that was actually her idea or the advice of overpaid consultants.
This is another thing.
That campaign was a set it had the elements, all the elements.
If I was uh an investigator, that campaign had all the elements of money laundering.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
You you blew one point five billion dollars over the course of a few months, and so much of it went to NGOs.
tim dillon
Of course.
joe rogan
Right?
So much of it went to these weird nonprofits that were supposedly going to help your campaign.
And well, who's at those NGOs?
This is like the LA Fire Fund.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
Right?
It's like, okay, you you gave the money to a hundred and eighty-eight different nonprofits.
Right that all have overhead.
And like, what about the people that lost the house?
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
Isn't there like one guy who could just start cutting checks?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You've got eight hundred million dollars or whatever you got.
tim dillon
You're paying the salaries of people who work at an organization.
joe rogan
Which is kind of a money laundering operation.
tim dillon
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Especially when you find out that some of these people make upwards of a million dollars a year.
tim dillon
Well, what they're gonna do with this LA fires land is still up in the air, but they had proposed zoning the palisades for low-income housing, and people threw a big fit.
And I think that they have backed off on that.
I'm unsure, but I think Newsroom is backing off on that because he he is now positioning himself to be the democratic presidential nominee.
He's always been.
But now he's really doing it, and to his credit, he's having success.
Like in this moment.
joe rogan
Well, you know, this is some of the success that they are they're hanging their hat on, is his social media campaign where he talks like Trump.
So he's got a bunch of people from his organization that tweet for him.
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
And they tweet like Trump, and they're saying this is elevated him in the public's eye.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
That's fucking terrifying.
tim dillon
It's terrifying.
He's he's starting to learn the internet um, you know, you know, sensibility.
Which is heavily trolling, does very well.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
tim dillon
You know, all that stuff.
What he has is a terrible record in California.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
And he's done terrible things to people's real lives.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
But he's succeeding on the internet.
joe rogan
So that's enough.
tim dillon
That's enough.
joe rogan
That's the thing.
tim dillon
But that's truly enough.
You don't have to be perfect.
He's having fun on the internet.
joe rogan
Uh.
tim dillon
And the state is burned.
And people forget.
Because that was a few months ago.
People have short memories.
They go, That tweet was fun.
He did a post on Axe, it was fun.
And it doesn't matter that they let all the criminals out in California and burn everyone's house.
You know?
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's uh that's how bad the Democratic Party is right now.
tim dillon
And he's not even the worst of them.
He's bad.
But the the people go so much further than him.
The problem with Gavin Newsom is that he's kind of an empty suit who is in the wind will go whichever way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
So in a in it in a time like 2020, when everybody is incredibly like in the grips of mania, and they're like riding's good.
Riding's protesting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Defund the police.
tim dillon
Defund the police.
Let's get rid of cops.
Gavinus goes, puts out a bunch of crazy social media posts about like the importance of resistance and all this crap, and throws his own police force under the bus.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
It's insane.
But then when things the pendulum swings back the other way, Gavin Newsom now becomes a sensible conservative that wants to, or a sensible Democrat that wants to reach out to conservatives.
And you know, he's like the hollow man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
He just wants to win.
And that might be enough.
joe rogan
It might be enough.
Well, you know.
There's not a lot of other options.
This is the thing.
Like we're we are now entering into 2026.
Okay.
So we only have four years from 2024 to 2028.
It's really two years, you know?
Because it's everybody has to get accustomed to these people.
They have to be in the public eye.
It's not what someone's going to run for president within the last six months and they're going to win.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
You need someone who's out there for minimum of 24 months.
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
So who else?
There's in 2026, right?
So we have two years left.
tim dillon
True.
unidentified
Who?
tim dillon
Yeah, it's him.
It's Gavin.
That's it.
joe rogan
It has to be.
tim dillon
Now, on the right, there's going to be a power struggle.
And either Trump will live through his term.
Let's hope he does.
But he's 80.
So you never know.
But he's healthy enough right now.
joe rogan
Allegedly healthy enough.
tim dillon
Allegedly healthy enough.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
If he lives through his term and he knights somebody, whether it's JD or whoever, that will be the person.
There is a world in which he doesn't knight anyone.
And there is a real power struggle between different factions of that party.
joe rogan
Well, who what are the factions?
So you have JD, vice president who's the obvious.
tim dillon
The obvious.
joe rogan
And then the problem with Ron DeSantis is he wore stilts.
tim dillon
Ron DeSantis has a cop energy.
He has a guy that pulled you over energy, and you go, was it really 85?
He's a prick.
No one likes him.
Everyone, he's offends everyone.
I knew a bunch of I I know a friend who's in finance, a bunch of hedge fund guys went down to Florida.
This was in like the throes of the campaign.
He ended up insulting all of them.
He's dismissive of people.
He doesn't have it.
The question is, Vance, who's smart.
Does Vance have it?
There's doubts.
Real doubts that if he has it or not.
I like him as a guy.
There's doubts.
I'm not saying he doesn't have it.
joe rogan
What are the doubts?
tim dillon
That he doesn't have it.
He doesn't have the charisma.
He's stiff as a board.
He's a klutz.
He dropped a trophy.
He does not articulate enough.
He doesn't, he doesn't have it.
unidentified
Sure.
tim dillon
But I'm saying these are the doubts.
He's young.
He doesn't have the gravitas.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
The wife's maybe not super into it.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
These are the doubts.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
These are the doubts you gotta overcome if you if you want to win.
joe rogan
Alright, if not him, who else is it?
tim dillon
MTG.
joe rogan
For real?
tim dillon
For realsies.
Heard it here first.
Get on the train now.
joe rogan
Are you you're serious?
unidentified
Get on the train now.
tim dillon
I might be involved.
Get on the train now.
Buy the stock now.
Buy the crypto now.
Buy the Ethereum now.
unidentified
Uh we're launching a coin soon.
joe rogan
The coin is crazy.
tim dillon
Step one is the coin.
Step two is the announcement.
Step three is the campaign.
Step four is her running the country, which I don't think is super important, but the first three are important.
Coin launch, hugely important.
joe rogan
You gotta get into the first couple of days.
M T is good in the first couple of days.
tim dillon
MTG, whether whether it's her or not, she's surprisingly weirdly capable.
She's kind of a tough bitch.
She's you ran a construction company, all this stuff.
She's going to be able to go out there and say America first, not Israel first.
And Vance might wear.
MTG's going to take advantage of that.
That's my guess.
Get on the trait.
unidentified
Wow.
tim dillon
But maybe I'm wrong.
But am I?
joe rogan
Has she voiced any?
tim dillon
She hasn't voiced it yet.
But let's be honest.
She's positioning herself.
You can see it.
She's positioning herself to run for president of the United States.
joe rogan
What is the wackiest shit that she's ever said?
tim dillon
I don't know.
Something about the Jews and the weather, but let's be honest.
Who knows what they're doing.
These hurricanes come and go.
What's going on?
joe rogan
MTG threatens to say every damn name on the house floor over Jeffrey Epstein clients to our.
tim dillon
This is fun.
She get part of being the president now is spectacle.
She gets it.
She sees Trump, she goes, he put on a goddamn show.
She's putting on a fucking show and a half.
joe rogan
Also, if you're a woman, there's an advantage that you have in that you are not fucking underage people.
tim dillon
No, and she's single.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
She's a single woman.
She's not meaning that you, she's not, she doesn't have a husband who works for BlackRock.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
She's a Lenny Kravitz song.
tim dillon
Now, why is AOC shutting her mouth about Israel?
Because AOC's donors are big Israeli tech people.
She's been silenced, and she's trying to run for president, too.
unidentified
Really?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
She'll struggle.
tim dillon
She's not gonna win.
She's a goofball.
She'll be making mojitos.
unidentified
She's a goofball.
tim dillon
She doesn't have it.
She's a goof.
But here's the reality.
She's shutting her mouth about Israel.
Is AOC out there about Israel?
No.
No, because she's a fraud.
But the smelly uh gross anarcho-communist in Brooklyn, to their credit, know she's a fraud.
They know she's a fraud.
In between their, you know, whatever, open mic nights and whatever, they figured out poetry slams.
Poetry slams and dog walking.
They figured out that this bitch is a fraud.
Big time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't think she was when she first started.
tim dillon
She wasn't, but she got she was probably she's realized she has she's ambitious.
joe rogan
She likes nice bags.
tim dillon
She likes nice bags.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
tim dillon
She's ambitious.
She wants to be the president.
joe rogan
You realize that job can get you hundreds of millions of dollars.
Look at what happens.
tim dillon
Can you get up who her donors are, Jimmy?
These Israeli tech people.
It's kind of interesting because this actually just kind of came out.
Oh you know, this this is coming out more and more.
MTG is one of these people that if now she said some wild stuff.
She wasn't media trained.
Okay.
She came out.
She made some unfortunate statements about um Jewish people and the weather, perhaps.
You know?
joe rogan
Did she do I want to know?
tim dillon
She said something about Jewish space lasers.
But Joe, why do the hurricanes always hit the west coast of Florida?
That's where all they never hit the East Coast.
They don't know what to do.
joe rogan
The water is warmer or something.
tim dillon
So say you.
The point is whatever.
But is it or the laser?
joe rogan
The hurricanes never hit the East Coast, is that true?
tim dillon
Yes, they hit the West Coast, which is where all the Christians live from the Midwest and Canada.
All the Jewish people on the East Coast don't get hurricanes, they get a little bit of flooding.
And when Marjorie wins, we're gonna get to the bottom of it.
joe rogan
So if you want to buy property, you buy it on the East Coast of Florida.
tim dillon
That's what they're saying.
joe rogan
Is that like Mar-a-Lago?
Is that the East Coast?
tim dillon
Correct.
Ding ding.
joe rogan
Really?
Okay, what does she say?
Marjorie Taylor Green has offered an amendment to the Israel funding bill to create space lasers.
This is not a parody.
MTG literally wants to appropriate money for a Jewish space laser.
But what does that mean?
She wants to fund space lasers?
tim dillon
I thought she was against it, but now maybe she's for them.
joe rogan
In 2018, it was back then.
It was different times.
tim dillon
It's different times.
joe rogan
She wanted the space laser.
tim dillon
She was asked.
joe rogan
2024, it says it.
tim dillon
Now she wants to lose.
Because why should they read socket?
Why should they have space lasers?
We should all have them.
joe rogan
Joy Reed probably space lasers are racist.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
Um 2018 post she made theorizing in quotes that Jewish space lasers started wildfires in California.
Now she's saying the United States deserves this type of defense for our southern border.
Okay.
I don't think Jewish Space Lasers did that.
But there was a real concern with the wildfires of Ontario.
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
That so many of them started simultaneously over a large distance that it is almost impossible that this was not some sort of a concerted effort to start this fire.
And then there was the question were they experimenting with some sort of space or satellite based energy weapon.
Well, what do you think about the biggest thing?
How do you know they got away from the conveniently in the middle of the woods?
tim dillon
What about these floods in Texas?
With the cloud seeding.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
This is a problem.
joe rogan
Well, they were cloud seeding just a few days before that.
tim dillon
That's a problem.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
That's a problem.
joe rogan
Well, that's also the problem that happened in Abu Dhabi or no Dubai.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
In Dubai, which where they openly admit that's a good thing.
tim dillon
They're manipulating the weather.
All these people are manipulating the weather.
joe rogan
Well, you're going in Abu Dhabi, they do it once a week.
Hopefully you'll get there on a rainy day.
tim dillon
Well, I well, we'll see.
joe rogan
They do it every week.
tim dillon
They they manipulate the weather every week.
joe rogan
Every week.
tim dillon
Well, good.
joe rogan
Well, it's how you keep everything green, Tim.
tim dillon
Listen, I'm my concern is like my own country, and any country that wants to offer me a large sum of money to go and perform, I will do it.
joe rogan
Coming soon to the Congo.
tim dillon
Yeah, I I will absolutely do South Sudan, Darfur, um, Angola, all of it.
I'll absolutely do South Sudan.
Tim Dillon live in South Sudan.
Absolutely will do it.
joe rogan
Yo.
tim dillon
Wouldn't you go to Saudi Arabia?
joe rogan
I'm busy.
tim dillon
Yeah, but but stay here.
You're doing a lot to do.
You're also doing well enough.
joe rogan
Two Israeli startup entrepreneurs played roles in the rise of Alexandria Ocasio Cortez.
She pulled out of an event commemorating Rabin.
Some concluded that AOC doesn't like Israelis, but two were instrumental in the lawmakers' early career.
That's where it gets weird.
They find you when you're young.
tim dillon
They find you when you're making mojitos.
joe rogan
They find you when you're young and promising.
Like JD.
tim dillon
Well, that's the thing.
JD's gonna have to, if you want to be the president, he's gonna have to say Peter Teal, I'm not just anti Christmas.
He's gonna have to say Peter Teal is Satan, and here's why that's good.
JD has to get out there and go, wouldn't you rather know who Satan is and be friends with him and have dinner with him than have it be like, who's Satan?
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
So he's got to get out there and say, I happen to be friends with Satan.
And I want that to be deserted.
I want it to be destigmatized.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
If Satan could go on the knockboys, maybe they could straighten it out.
tim dillon
That's right.
Peter Teal on the Nelk Boys.
When they go, What do you think about fast food?
And he goes, I only I take one pill every day to survive.
And it gives me all of my nutrients.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
Yeah.
I don't think Peter Thiel eats food like a person.
I think it's like he has some type of you know.
joe rogan
What do you think?
tim dillon
I think a lot of these tech people like they don't like food.
They're not food people, a lot of these tech people.
I went to a few of these tech things in Austin.
It's not a the food's never the thing.
They're they're not like food people.
They're not like, ooh, let me eat food.
Like wasps are not either.
Like real old school, like waspy.
joe rogan
Didn't you get invited to have lunch or something or dinner with Peter?
tim dillon
Yes, I said no.
joe rogan
Did you?
tim dillon
I said no.
I I'm a little I'm a little wary of that circle of people.
And I'm not saying there's anything inherently evil about them because obviously there's people in there.
I I just I don't know that I want to go to a dinner with someone who's gonna talk endlessly about the Antichrist.
joe rogan
But yet you'll go to Saudi Arabia.
tim dillon
Of course.
unidentified
And perform.
tim dillon
Of course.
joe rogan
I've been to Peter's house twice.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Uh I went once with dinner with uh Eric Weinstein, I forget who else.
And then the second time he brought me in because they were gonna have lunch with Eric von Danekin.
tim dillon
Oh, the the guy at the chariots of the gods.
unidentified
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And I was like, oh yeah, I'm in.
And uh I know so much about that.
So I was asking him all these questions.
tim dillon
I'm sure he's a very nice guy.
I like Peter Thiel.
joe rogan
People that know him on the podcast.
tim dillon
He's a smart guy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
I don't again.
I get invited to a lot of dinners and a lot of things.
And what I try to do is I try to say to myself, I need to be able to criticize people and make fun of them.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
So it you know, it felt like really weird to go to this guy's house and then shit on him the next day.
joe rogan
Do you think that's part of the strategy of inviting you to go to places?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Most likely.
But it doesn't work.
Because I can't shut my mouth.
I can't shut my mouth.
So I mean, I uh I've said things people in my own family get mad at me because I can't shut my mouth.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
So it's certainly not gonna work.
If you're a billionaire invites me somewhere, it's not gonna work.
So then you're probably gonna have to kill me, and I'd rather you're not.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Please.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
That's the thing.
joe rogan
I see what you're saying.
Well, you just you can't get too close.
tim dillon
I don't want to get super close.
Only because, like, to me, it's like I like my show because I can talk shit and say things, and I just can't, I don't want to censor myself, and I don't know how to censor myself, and I wouldn't be fun or good at what I do if I censored myself.
And I think that, like, you know, the a lot of people out there in the world are under the impression that they can everyone has an agenda, and that's completely understandable.
And I think what they try to do is sometimes launder that agenda through some cultural space, however, they want to do it.
You know?
Yeah.
And that's happened forever.
It's not new, it's not unique because there's an internet a thousand percent.
There's people that want the world to look a certain way, but they don't come out and tell you exactly how they want it to look.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
They figure out a way to kind of like let's filter this.
So I I I'm trying to I when I when I look at that and I go, 'Cause I think it was a very nice dinner.
I think what he wants, like I'm sure it was like a lovely, like he goes, Well, I want to talk about the media.
And you're like a comedian, but you're in the media, and like, you know, he has a bunch of people to his house.
There's probably smart people that go.
Yeah, he likes to have a talk about the media.
joe rogan
Big thought, like fake tank conversations.
tim dillon
Yeah, and and I just felt like I that didn't appeal to me.
joe rogan
Well, that's why you had Von Danekin over for lunch.
Right.
So it's not all evil.
It's like, what is this about?
tim dillon
The thing is, it's a lot, you know, when people what would really shock people in America is how much a lot of the super elites w are not, it's not like it's all an eight, and I'm sure some of it is, some club they're all in, but it's not like they're all lizards or it's an ancient blood cult.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
A lot of it is like they will feed you and your family into a maltro so they can live two blocks closer to the beach.
It's just that things have always been good and they want them to stay good.
So somebody told me once it's it it it's the highest levels of society perpetuating themselves and just staying at the top of the food chain.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
And 90% of them have no idea what's going on, and they're just rich and they just woke up rich and things are good, and they they could ski an aspen or they go to the wherever Hamptons or Beverly Hills or whatever, or here, the beautiful areas here.
And then 10% of those people are earning the money.
They're the the scions of the dynasties, or they're the CEOs, or they're the hedge fund managers or the private equity people, and then one or two percent of those people are truly nefarious.
Those are the people who are fun.
And I mean, you know, those are the people who are, you know, those are the guys who are in that whatever that smoke-filled room is.
joe rogan
Well, the also thing to get to the top of that kind of a business, you have to be a bit of a sociopath.
tim dillon
For sure.
joe rogan
Right.
And you have to be kind of calculated.
This is where it's fascinating, like what Bill Gates has done in his career, where he's pivoted to become this guy who's like really concentrated on global health.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know, and philanthropy.
All of his time is now spent on philanthropy.
Yes.
tim dillon
Well, it's a great way to launder money.
unidentified
That's huge.
tim dillon
It's a great way to launder money.
joe rogan
It's also a great way to launder your image.
tim dillon
Great way to launder your image.
joe rogan
Well, I remember him in the 90s where everybody was mad at him.
He was in the antitrust guy.
He was everybody he was constantly in court about that.
tim dillon
Well, that's why he went to Epstein's Island because he was doing an ecological survey of the area he wanted to studying beach erosion.
Um But this is the thing.
Throughout history, these people have never been caught red-handed.
Now they're kind of getting caught red-handed, and now they're ha they're uh employing every means at their disposal to keep a lot of this stuff quiet.
Not only that.
I think my personal theory is that someone took a lot of these people in a room 20 years ago and went, listen, as soon as AI is out of the bottle, you got five or ten years before the world's wild.
Build your bunkers, steal the money, take whatever you can, get it off the government balance sheet.
However, you're gonna do it, because let Detroit go.
Who gives a fuck?
Don't give them health care, doesn't matter.
Don't fix the infrastructure, don't fix the schools.
From when AI's out of the box, you have five, seven, ten years, probably closer to ten, fifteen years before shit gets really fucking weird.
So get your money now, and it's gonna get what do you think get really weird looks like?
You know, just massive unemployment, civil unrest, you know, autonomous police forces, AI running large sectors of the government, just weird shit.
And then that to me is probably one of the reasons that and I'm not saying it was one big meeting, but I think they know, and now maybe it's a folly.
Like people like Amy Jacobson go, the nukes start flying, everyone's dead, we don't care how many bunkers they have, whatever.
Who knows?
Maybe it is a folly.
That being said, we've got underground cities all over the country.
The government's you know, prepared, obviously for and has been for a while.
All of these private citizens are now worth in the hundreds of billions, some of them, a lot of them are billionaires.
They're trying to hedge their bets in whatever way they can.
Um Teals famously has this thing in New Zealand or wants to be in New Zealand if things go haywire.
joe rogan
Um that's where everybody wants to go, right?
tim dillon
They all want to go to New Zealand.
joe rogan
Why New Zealand?
tim dillon
It's beautiful, it's an island, yeah.
joe rogan
But is it some sort of a theory how that survives some sort of apocalypse?
tim dillon
I don't know.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Small population, rich natural resources, all of that, a lot of food, all of that.
tim dillon
And I think that like, so I mean it feels like they're preparing for something.
It doesn't feel paranoid to suggest that they know it's gonna get very weird.
I mean, there's people falling in love with chat bots.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
tim dillon
It's gonna get odd.
joe rogan
Well, then it's chatbots talking you into killing yourself.
That's also teaching you how to make a better news.
tim dillon
That's what's happening.
unidentified
So you know.
tim dillon
I mean, I think I think there's I don't here's a real question, an interesting question.
Are the elites in our country, and I and I mean, you know, not just rich people, I mean people that own companies that control large sectors of the economy.
Are they believing that 2050 is going to be will we still have the United States of America?
That's a real interesting question.
Because all of these tech people talk like we won't.
joe rogan
Really?
Yeah.
So what do they say?
tim dillon
Well, basically, they've talked about the need to, you know, one of the biggest startups during the pandemic was, you know, and Teal was an investor in this, was let's go buy a plot of land somewhere in the world and run a country on crypto and make it like a libertarian paradise.
It was called Praxis, and they did this.
This was a big startup, but it it it got you know a good amount of funding because where'd they want to go?
They were talking about like Madagascar, I think they were talking about other places.
But you're looking I'm not aware of this.
Oh, it was a real thing.
I mean, it was a- Did you hear about this?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Jamie?
tim dillon
Sort of it was real.
You look it up.
I mean, it's there.
joe rogan
So they were talking about using crypto and funding a new country.
tim dillon
Yeah, they they they've I don't think the tech people want.
joe rogan
Um, and I met these kids, they were nice kids, but Praxis states that it has two thousand thirty-four citizens, 124 companies.
The companies founded by Praxis members have an aggregate valuation of 452 billion.
Although, which is good for the economy for about six weeks.
Right.
Although original praxis plans include development in the Mediterranean.
The company has explored Greenland as a site.
Huh.
tim dillon
They the tech people don't, I Think I think they see the future of America as more feudalism than a representative democracy.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Reclaim the West.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
The world's first digital nation.
What?
tim dillon
Yeah.
It's a real thing.
joe rogan
So now it says 922 billion value of praxis founded companies.
Now there's 103,000 Praxiens.
About look at this fucking look at this bizarre.
tim dillon
This is what the architecture is.
joe rogan
So that when it all goes south, you could just leap to your death at any moment.
tim dillon
But it's aesthetically pleasing.
joe rogan
Or they could just chuck you off when your tweets don't align with their company's objectives.
tim dillon
But this is so this is one example of something that I think is I think it's a little bit of the quiet part out loud where I I I think a lot of the tech people have given up on the idea of America as a nation state.
Not all of them.
joe rogan
Well, some of them Atlas, California proposes Atlas, California, a defense-focused spaceport city on 3,850 acres in Vanderburg Space Force base, located on the California coast between Los Angeles and San Francisco.
Vandenberg already hosts SpaceX, Blue Origin, and Relativity Space.
Atlas will concentrate elite engineering talent with DOD assets to solve the defense challenges that will determine America's survival.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
What?
tim dillon
It's another Manhattan Play.
joe rogan
Go to the image that's at the above the header.
Look at this fucking image of this place.
tim dillon
I think none of this is actually happening.
I think it's more pretend per se, but I don't know.
joe rogan
Oh, it's just a couple months ago, June 4th.
tim dillon
They'd like it to happen.
joe rogan
This is weird.
tim dillon
But do you see what I mean?
It doesn't feel like the main concern here is America.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
In any in any recognizable way.
joe rogan
It seems like they're preparing for the fall.
tim dillon
That seems to be what it is.
joe rogan
Yeah, that seems like you're preparing for the fall of America.
tim dillon
A thousand percent.
joe rogan
And defend the West On Earth.
On Earth and beyond.
tim dillon
By the way, not defend America.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
Defend the West.
So right.
Right.
Interesting.
joe rogan
Look at this this quote.
We built the arsenal of democracy, split the atom, and reach the moon.
Now we must build a city that wins this century.
tim dillon
What?
joe rogan
Atlas is where America's engineers will develop the technologies that secure our future.
Join us.
This sounds like how they get you.
This is the end.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, I would I would music behind it.
tim dillon
I'm hoping it after this they offer me a tiny little plot to do a podcast.
Interview them about their work.
joe rogan
Right, look at Discovery Property.
Yeah.
So this idea is that when AI gets out of the box, as you say, the the world's like filled with chaos, crime is rampant, mm-hmm.
And then at that point, these guys wall themselves off, use all of their money and defend the West.
tim dillon
That seems to be what it's like.
joe rogan
Defending is a weird Defending.
Yeah.
It's it's a weird way of phrasing things.
Because you're you're not saying, you know, we look to establish uh a beautiful harmonious community that uh, you know.
tim dillon
No, there is an element, I think of defense.
Yeah, and they're defending them from an assault.
From maybe the defend the way it's also like maybe you're defending them from forces that are uh Aliens.
Well well, sure, but or they're domestic, they're Americans.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
It could also be you know transcendent.
joe rogan
There it is.
Okay, inspired by the wisdom of great civilizations, we believe that true sovereignty is achieved through alignment with the transcendent.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Uh would you can't just say that.
tim dillon
This is gonna all end up to just be like a lot of skincare products at the end.
joe rogan
Like it's just gonna be Brian Johnson's vitamins.
tim dillon
Yeah, it's just Brian Johnson's vitamins and Chris Jan's deal.
joe rogan
The praxian way of life is driven by a vital energy that seeks transcendence through heroic action and contemplation.
Our mission is to channel this drive into a cohesive way of life forged by social structures and institutions that guide our people toward their destiny.
You just said nothing.
tim dillon
It's nothing.
And it's so what it is is opting out.
There's America.
joe rogan
That looks like a mushroom.
Yeah.
That's a mushroom cap.
Are you guys doing shrooms?
Because now I'm in.
tim dillon
Well, they're certainly doing shrooms.
joe rogan
Well, now I'm in.
tim dillon
They're certainly doing shrooms.
joe rogan
I want to go and I'm not saying I don't think I have enough money.
tim dillon
I'm not saying it's bad.
I'm just saying this is kind of and they're not gonna be the only ones.
joe rogan
I need to up my game.
tim dillon
They're not gonna be the only one.
The West.
joe rogan
I want to defend the rest.
You could join the Discord, they have a Discord server.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Our primary centers join the nation, take the pledge, and build the future of the West.
joe rogan
Our work primarily centers around developing culture and institutions that promote the praxe and way of life.
Boy, this is creepy.
Because increase our econom Oh, oh, increase our economics.
tim dillon
Part of the funding.
Fun.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
tim dillon
Sure.
joe rogan
If you're gonna, you know.
tim dillon
If you're the antichrist, you want to at least have a little bit of a say in what goes on here.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if they really do know something and like the antichrist is a real thing?
Like imagine possible.
You get to the like the highest levels of these meetings and they say, look, all this biblical stuff is actually based on reality.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And there's something coming, and it will be like revelations in the Bible.
There's gonna be something that goes out.
tim dillon
It could very possibly happen.
It is interesting to think about the antichrist and then this all-powerful dark figure, again, not more powerful than God, but like a problem, like a real problem.
joe rogan
A real problem.
tim dillon
And then that person has to have lunch with J.D. Vance.
That's like an odd.
joe rogan
Well, if human beings you don't picture that.
But if you think about religion as being something that serves human beings, sure.
And God wants human beings to like what would be the antichrist?
Well, it'd be AI, wouldn't it be?
tim dillon
Well, I think that's I think when you get into living forever and playing God and doing all this stuff, you get into a very dark area of human beings having the capacity of God.
All these tech people who've now become super Christian, which seems to be a front because they know how to sell what they're trying to do to America that way.
joe rogan
Like how many of them are becoming super teal?
tim dillon
Of course.
joe rogan
How does he reconcile that with the gay stuff?
tim dillon
I don't know how anyone reconciles anything with anything.
But like he's I think he's I don't know, but they they've realized they have to sell the AI stuff and the eventual augmenting of the biology, all of that to Americans.
And they'll probably be a lot of the objections to that will probably be religious or rooted in religion.
People going, Oh I don't want to be uh but if you can somehow launder it and go, no, no, no, God likes and wants you to have the autonomous drown.
You have to position yourself.
joe rogan
Interesting.
tim dillon
I don't know.
I'm sure he can reconcile the gay stuff with the way uh there's tons of gay Christians.
I'm sure he's he's a very smart guy.
He'll be able to figure it out.
joe rogan
That's an interesting strategy.
Well, that's distracting that does make sense though, as a strategy.
Of course, how you would approach things.
tim dillon
You would have to.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
You would have to.
You'd have to go out and say the good news is God wants you to have all of these things.
Which isn't Christianity, it's some other they've concocted something else.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
tim dillon
If you know, if you're if you're augmenting your biology to live forever or to live a lot longer, and you are seeding clouds and doing all of this stuff, you know, then you are you are playing God.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
You are doing it.
joe rogan
I'm I'm not sure.
tim dillon
And there's an argument that science is is sh you should do some of these things.
Whatever.
You can make that argument.
But that's not inherently a a a Christian argument.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I think the real argument is that it you it's not just that you can do these things, but it's an imperative.
The the reason being is that we're in competition with China.
tim dillon
What did you say?
You said you were blown away by something.
joe rogan
Oh, this praxian shit.
Well, it's this is I had no idea that this was even a thing.
Well, the never how we've never discussed this before.
Have we ever?
jamie vernon
I don't think so.
tim dillon
But this was a big thing during the pandemic.
I don't know the the reality of any of it.
Here's what I think here's what it is emblematic of The rich opted out of America a while ago, the super rich, meaning like they let many American cities crumble.
They allowed the infrastructure of the country to rot.
They carved out places within the country that they were going to, you know, secure and those places are safe.
And those places are beautiful.
And those places have pretty good economies.
And they let the rest of it, you know, the rest belt and the Sun Belt, you know, a lot of the areas that were deindustrialized.
They let a lot of that go.
What's the next culmination of that?
The next culmination of that, they're already kind of in a separate country.
So this is just the leveling up of that with tech, crypto.
You're off the dollar system, you're in your own thing, or you're doing a digital currency system.
You know.
That seems to be the next phase.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Well, I think the next phase is allow the same thing that happened to Detroit to happen to the entire country.
tim dillon
That seems to be correct, yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Because it that seems like there's an inevitability of automation and of the jobs that AI is going to take away, except for venture capitalism.
Mark Andreessen's fine.
But everybody we're fucked.
They're gonna they're gonna have to AI comedians.
tim dillon
We'll have to interview Mark Andrewson every day.
joe rogan
Every day.
tim dillon
Which I've tried.
He doesn't come on.
joe rogan
He didn't come on your show?
tim dillon
He wouldn't know.
unidentified
Really?
tim dillon
But he's a nice guy.
I listen here's interesting.
joe rogan
He's been on my show a few times.
tim dillon
Maybe next time I see Harry's.
You have a bigger show, actually, statistically.
joe rogan
Interesting.
You have a big show, though.
tim dillon
It's a very big show.
And we would treat we would treat thank you very much.
unidentified
And and then thank Mark Marin for building it with me.
tim dillon
And being so generous with his fan base with me.
But the um Yeah.
It seems like they're going to it seems like they're going to say America was fun.
We had a good run.
Yeah.
But it seems inevitable that the standard of living is going to fall.
Now a lot of people, like and Elon, who's a smart guy, and I don't agree with him on everything, but he says things like it's gonna be good.
And the standard of livings are gonna rise with AI.
I hope that's the case, but there's gonna be a lot of people out of work.
And I don't quite know how people's standard of living is going to increase.
I guess we're gonna have some UBI that's enough or whatever, but it just feels to me like we're heading towards something that has the potential.
Maybe it won't be.
I'm not gonna be a doomsdayer.
It has the potential to be incredibly disruptive.
It will be incredibly disruptive.
Now, for the good or the bad, I don't know, but it does seem like people are preparing for the inevitability of a large war.
France just said get your hosp get hospitals ready for war by 2026.
joe rogan
France just said that.
tim dillon
France just said that.
unidentified
Why?
tim dillon
He came out.
McCron just came out and said, get the hospitals ready for 2026, because that's when Brigitte's transitioning back to a man.
joe rogan
But also have France orders hospital to be ready for war in six months' time.
tim dillon
Can some what is this goon still doing this, Salinsky goon?
What a goon this person is.
joe rogan
The director revealed in a letter to regional health agencies anticipates 10,000 to 50,000 men in hospital over a period...
Maybe this is why they let everybody into the country.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
Health Minister Catherine Vautrine.
Is that it?
Vautrin?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Uh confirmed the preparations, saying that they're a normal part of anticipating crisis in the current international context.
Again, what the fuck are you saying?
The letter dated 18 July suggests that France could serve as a rear base for a large-scale conflict and mentions setting up medical centers near transport hubs.
Okay.
Follows the distribution of a survival manual to French households and President Emmanuel Macron's plan to double France's defense spending by 2027.
Um how did that Guy get to be the head of France.
At this point, can he win an election?
tim dillon
No.
Probably not.
joe rogan
Now everybody knows that he's married to a man who not only a man, but a man who smacks him in the face.
tim dillon
Allegedly.
joe rogan
I saw the video.
unidentified
Well, the alleged the alleged alleged man.
joe rogan
Well, whatever, that woman smacked him in the face.
unidentified
For sure.
joe rogan
He's getting abused.
tim dillon
She manhandled him.
joe rogan
Yeah, manhandled him.
Behind closed doors.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
She man spreads.
You ever see her man spread?
tim dillon
She man splains.
joe rogan
And I don't know any women that sit down like that.
tim dillon
There's something off there.
She met Reed.
He was 40.
She was 15 or something.
He was a kid in school.
There's something really off.
joe rogan
That alone.
tim dillon
There's something very strange, very sinister, very.
And she was 38 or something?
joe rogan
Something like that.
And then they started when uh she was 40.
I'll notice I say she.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm a good boy.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
I'm following the rules.
tim dillon
That's right.
Well, there's lawsuits, which I mentioned then.
joe rogan
Well, it was interesting watching Jake Tapper do that about the fucking shooter.
Uh the Catholic school shooter, like correcting the pronouns.
tim dillon
Oh my God.
joe rogan
Whoa.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim dillon
You know?
joe rogan
It's bizarre.
Bizarro land we're in right now.
But anyway, um, what is going on in France?
Like that that guy is your fucking leader.
Like, that's so weird.
And could when I see things like that, it's terrifying because they're what could is that possible they could pull that off in America?
When you go, well, they almost did with Kamala Harris.
tim dillon
Well, I think they have, by the way, they have before with lots of people.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
And we don't know the personal lives of any of these people.
joe rogan
You know what's really fun?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
When uh someone is in that whole race and running for president or vice president, and then the race is over, and they realize that person was a liability, so they cut them off.
And you never and then that person goes wacky, like Tim Walsh.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
You see where he had a fuck Trump shirt on, yeah, and he's dancing and going down an elevator.
Have you seen this video?
tim dillon
I haven't said please play it.
I haven't seen it.
joe rogan
Please, Jamie.
Fine.
tim dillon
Well, Tim Walsh is a good one.
joe rogan
But this is weird.
tim dillon
That was a big mistake.
joe rogan
Oh, a huge mistake.
tim dillon
They should have picked Josh Shapiro from uh the governor of Pennsylvania.
joe rogan
I think they're worried about the Jewish thing.
tim dillon
Well, of course.
It's a big swing state.
Uh and and and it would have been better.
joe rogan
Okay.
You go full screen on the state.
tim dillon
Is that really this him?
jamie vernon
No, it's not real.
joe rogan
It's real.
unidentified
No, it's not.
joe rogan
Yes, it is.
jamie vernon
AI generated.
joe rogan
No, no, no, it's real.
jamie vernon
No, look, I can tell it's not real.
joe rogan
I love it.
It's real.
jamie vernon
It's not real.
joe rogan
It's gotta be real.
tim dillon
It has to be really real.
joe rogan
It has to be real.
Jamie.
tim dillon
Jamie's compromised.
joe rogan
Look at him dancing.
I mean, the That is so real, Jamie.
tim dillon
By the way, if this was real, he might have won.
jamie vernon
It's probably a real person.
It might not be Tim Waltz.
The fuck Trump is AI generated.
joe rogan
No, he slaps his ass.
tim dillon
I mean, that is hilarious.
joe rogan
Oh, it's definitely him.
This is all 100% real, Jamie.
You're you're a plant by the way.
tim dillon
Jamie's compromised, and I'm worried about Jamie, and I'm worried about Grok.
joe rogan
Does it say that it's AI?
jamie vernon
I mean, yes.
joe rogan
You say it's AI.
No, the video.
Everybody says it.
Riley Moore fell for an AI generated video of Minnesota government.
I fell for it too.
And you know why I fell for it?
Yeah.
Because I believe that he's capable of doing something.
tim dillon
But that's his essence.
joe rogan
He's so weird.
tim dillon
He's a weird guy.
He's in the CCP, he's controlled by communist China, most likely.
Well, he thinks it's a good place.
That's the thing.
I don't think he's controlled, meaning like whatever they're like nodes on his head.
But like I'm saying like he thinks that's a better way of life.
Well he thinks government control over your life is a better way of life.
joe rogan
And if you wanted to find a guy that maybe you could have some shit on to put into office.
tim dillon
That guy's a creep.
He's a weird he's a creepy guy, and nobody knows exactly what his qualifications were to be the vice president of the United States.
That was all left out.
No one has any clue.
joe rogan
We did a really good job of defunding the police.
tim dillon
Well, you know, his psychopath wife sat there and was like, when we smelled the burning tires from the riots, it was a real moment.
We just took it in.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
The people that live in that region of the country, many of them are sick.
They don't get enough sunlight.
It's very cold.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
They're incredibly radical.
They live around all white people, and yet they're the most concerned with racism.
And you know, they almost elected a Somali mayor there, uh, or governor or something, but they just pulled his support away.
joe rogan
Yeah, what happened with that?
Why'd they pull the support away?
tim dillon
They said that there was something wrong with the convention, that there were like people's votes weren't counted, but it seems like the Democrats realized, oh, we're gonna import all these people that we think they're gonna vote for us, they're actually gonna vote for themselves and get rid of us.
Oh it's like, oh, we'll import all these people, they'll vote for us, and then they're like, wait a minute, fuck you, we'll just run one of our people.
Why the hell?
Why do we need to why do we need to elect you?
We can just elect this guy, and it's like the guy from Captain Phillips.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
It's the guy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm the pirate.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
And and I'm sure it's lovely.
And I'm not saying you shouldn't run in America.
I'm not saying a pirate shouldn't be the mayor of an Amer great American city.
joe rogan
That fucking state has not recovered from Prince dying.
tim dillon
No, no.
joe rogan
They fell off.
tim dillon
Yeah.
And I think we're going to be able to do that.
joe rogan
Which by the way died of fentanyl.
tim dillon
That's right.
The small boat crisis.
Really?
Yeah.
Fent.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hip issues.
So in pain.
Um got a hold of the wrong pills.
unidentified
The patch.
joe rogan
So here's the thing.
No, it's um it's not that.
The patch will won't kill you.
Because the patches actually goes through the dermis, it actually regulates the dose.
Uh Prince Rogers Nelson, official cause of death was an accidental overdose of fentanyl.
So what happens is, and what happened with Tom Petty too, is these guys uh their their taste, their appetite uh far exceeds the prescription.
And uh they're in pain all the time, and so they get pills from other people.
So with Tom Petty, I think he got it from a roadie.
Uh he wound up dying.
I don't know where Prince got his from.
But what happens is, you know, you're getting a prescription from your doctor, and maybe he only gives you uh you know, three pills a day, and you really want ten.
tim dillon
And then you start.
joe rogan
Wasn't it like uh what the fuck's his name?
Rush Limbaugh.
tim dillon
Wasn't he taking like sixteen a day oxycon?
joe rogan
I think it was higher than that.
tim dillon
It might have been, it might have been.
joe rogan
I think it was something nuts.
tim dillon
It was nuts.
Yeah, like yeah, and it was doing broadcasting every day.
joe rogan
That well, that's what made him go deaf, apparently.
Uh Alex Jones explained it to me.
unidentified
Wow.
tim dillon
Interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Okay.
Prince had thought he was taking the prescription drug Vicadin when he in fact can't take a counterfeit Vicanin pill laced with potentially deadly fentanyl.
Yeah.
So same thing.
So you you think you're getting these pills that you're addicted to.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Prince apparently had hip problems.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
From all the dancing and you know, like I know a lot of martial artists have fake hips down.
Um so you get in pain and the pain is debilitating, you can't tolerate it.
And so, like, hey, take a pill.
And then next thing you know, you're fucked.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And then you're on that train and you need a you need something, and you got a Viking information, you gotta vital.
Oh, I can't like it.
Then you're foaming at the mouth and dead in the hotel floor.
tim dillon
That really sucks, and that's that is terrible.
joe rogan
It's fucking horrible.
It's fucking horrible.
And by the way, all that shit would have been avoided if there was legal drugs.
tim dillon
Well, the other yes, but I also think like a lot of these antidepressants and stuff, a lot of those things, and there's people that obviously need them and are helped by them, and that's great, but like the pharmaceutical industry is so powerful and so well funded, and you know, it's clear that you know, one of the ways you're gonna try to control the population once people don't have jobs or a purpose is by getting them all on a on a on a you know bevy of medications.
joe rogan
Get them dosed up to the point where they're real dog.
tim dillon
I think they're gonna dose people up.
They dose them up.
joe rogan
Nothing upsets you.
And then you can just take your government stipend, and you're gonna be fine.
And you'll have you you'll have less money, but you'll have all the objects that you need.
tim dillon
You'll have all the things that are.
joe rogan
Because the government will send you free TVs because the TVs will be gonna be made by robots, and it'll cost no money.
tim dillon
Can't react like if you're sitting on a beach and then a small migrant boat shows up and then they all just start running, you just look at it and kind of nod and go, huh.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Then someone will turn, who else is gonna clean your toilet?
tim dillon
That's right.
unidentified
You need that.
tim dillon
Right.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
Who's gonna clean your toilet?
Who's gonna clean toilet?
Who's gonna drink your piss, Mr. Trump?
It's gonna be it's gonna be really interesting to see if Farage wins in the UK, if the reform party wins, you know, when is that coming up?
joe rogan
I don't know exactly when someone has to reverse course, and it might be too late.
Because the the amount of change that they've had over the past few years is staggering.
You know, the Graham Linehan uh arrest, I think woke a lot of people up today.
Um the fact that they you could see the tweets that they arrested him for.
The fact that they're arresting people for saying I love bacon.
tim dillon
Like all that shit is the only way you can make changes to a society as swiftly as they are is by stifling dissent and punishing it and criminalizing it.
joe rogan
Yes.
tim dillon
There's absolutely no way to completely remake a society in the span of like 36 months, you know?
Like you can't do that without shutting everybody up.
joe rogan
You shut everybody up and you import it.
tim dillon
Nobody is voting to be a minority in their own country.
Nobody is voting to lose uh economic and cultural ground in their own country.
People certainly think immigrants can benefit a country and make a country better, and that's why historically we've had immigration, but nobody is voting for massive large scale immigration that completely destabilizes an existing economy.
joe rogan
And the majority of it is Muslim.
tim dillon
It's Muslim immigration.
joe rogan
Which is weird.
Like how you think about all the Latin American countries and all the different countries.
Like why is this the one?
tim dillon
Well, because it's the one you can't criticize.
It's the one you cannot say you don't want.
It's the one that is not going to be able.
There are real conditions in the world that create refugees.
Climate is one of them.
Destabilizing wars are another one.
So if you're all over the world destabilizing countries with war and covert operations and all of this stuff, and enriching a small circle of people, and all those refugees need a place to stay, you gotta take them in and you gotta tell your people to shut the fuck up.
And that's what's been going on.
Progressives, when I grew up, used to care deeply about their fellow citizens having health care, a place to live, be able to send their kids to college, retire, whatever.
All of the energy now, for example, in the New York mayoral race is about whether Jewish people feel safe with the Muslim mayor, and whether the Muslim mayor feels that illegal immigrants are being treated nicely enough.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
They don't care at all about citizens of this country.
They don't care about black people who are genuinely owed a debt from the things that Americans have done, bringing them to the country as slaves, preventing them from Crow, acquiring wealth, Jim Crow, redlining, all that.
That is no longer an issue.
They don't talk about elderly people, they don't talk about social security, they don't talk about that.
All of the energy that was, you know, and this happened right around Occupy Wall Street.
Right around Occupy Wall Street, and people started to realize that the it was a little bit of a scam the way the country was being run.
You had people start to design a democratic party around identity politics, and then the Republican Party was always kind of designed around this idea that like, you know, you had maximum freedom to start your own hedge fund.
Shut up.
Stop complaining.
Whatever.
And populism was kind of killed in America.
Unions were killed, workers' rights were killed.
And now all this progressive energy that used to get funneled into like people having health care is now specifically for non-citizens.
joe rogan
Yeah, weird.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's extraordinary amounts of money.
tim dillon
Extraordinary amounts of money.
And it's not about it's not about America or the future of uh uh New York City, uh the most economically, it's the you know, it's the top city in the world economically, and the focus is in not about Americans, it's about undocumented people.
And what how if Jews and Muslims are gonna play nice?
joe rogan
Weird.
tim dillon
It's odd.
joe rogan
Real weird.
tim dillon
It's strange to me.
I'm not saying those are completely unimportant issues, but they completely dominate the conversation to a level that's absurd.
joe rogan
He's also, here's another absurd thing.
He's also running on this promise of setting up a transgender hub where you can go and get fixed up there.
Yeah, I mean for people.
tim dillon
In the park?
No, I'm kidding.
joe rogan
There's a tent.
There's a tent.
You go in there and it's like fucking one of those Dexters.
tim dillon
He's gonna do it in the friend's fountain that they all jumped in at the beginning of Friends.
Yeah, he's gonna do that.
No, I mean, um uh we don't need a transgender hub.
Uh not to hurt anybody's feelings.
People should be able to, I think adults should be able to do whatever they want.
joe rogan
The friends theme is playing in my head right now.
tim dillon
It is, yeah.
In the family.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
We don't need a transgender hub.
We don't need a sanctuary city.
I don't think we all we don't, and I mean you've said this.
You don't need ice rates ripping families apart at graduation either.
joe rogan
No.
tim dillon
But you need an enforcement of law.
You need to build a middle class.
You need to make things affordable.
Um they run California on eight trillion dollars worth of tech money in Northern California.
They run New York on a lot of fucking finance money.
And these people bring in a class of people that cannot understand them.
So culturally, it's nice when Demade can't understand you.
It's nice.
It's nice when she really doesn't know what you're saying.
Um I'm not saying that you get obviously get rid of every immigrant, but this whole idea that the American working class, if they are not participating in their own destruction, they are somehow a racist or their xenophobic.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Is psychotic.
joe rogan
It is psychotic.
tim dillon
It's psychotic.
joe rogan
It's weird.
It's just weird that people accept it.
And it's also weird that it's attached to being a kind, compassionate person that's on the left.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you know, and also just complete lack of any like anybody who gets arrested has no cash bail.
unidentified
Yeah.
Right.
joe rogan
So there's there's no punishment for committing crimes.
It's very it's very strange.
Like it is all set like if you wanted to be the person, if you want to be the person that's gonna like try to completely destabilize a country, you would do it exactly that way.
I'm not saying that that's why they're doing it, but if it just feels very strange that they've gotten everybody to kind of go along with all this.
tim dillon
Well, it seems to be preparing to run a country without people.
It seems very much if I'm a nut a conspiracy nut, which I am, and I'm wondering how you begin to sever ties with people.
First you're gonna replace the people in your own country with people from another country that you could pay a lot less money to who you have no cultural ties with, who you don't even speak the same language, and then eventually you're gonna discard those people for robots.
joe rogan
Interesting.
tim dillon
And machines.
joe rogan
Well, I think you want to set up more internal conflict.
Like if people figure out that this white versus black struggle in America is kind of bullshit, right?
And then the the racism that people think exists is kind of accentuated by social media, and then they figure out that that racism that exists is accentuated by bots, so that they're pitting us against each other when the most people are cool, the vast majority.
And then also there's the gay straight thing, and there's this weird push recently to try to repeal gay marriage.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like who's pushing that?
Well, that seems like one of those fake things that they do to keep each other out of each other's throats.
Well, what's the ultimate one?
The ultimate one is Sharia law.
Right.
The ultimate one is bring in as many Muslims as you can, let them gather up steam, let them build up an alliance.
Let a bunch of like really fucking stupid wacky leftists go along with this.
And then you put knowing that that religion is counter to everything you stand.
tim dillon
I believe in, yeah.
joe rogan
Everything you stand for as far as women's rights, gay rights, like.
tim dillon
So I think I think religious freedom.
I think you're right.
I think you're a hundred percent right.
And I think the funny thing about a lot of the big, you know, super wealthy people is they don't care if there's large swaths of Michigan under Sharia law.
They wouldn't care.
joe rogan
No.
tim dillon
They're really interested in 12 zip codes that they're gonna gate off.
It's obvious.
Like they're interested, they're they're all over the world.
They have homes everywhere.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Um, and you know, I don't think they care.
I mean, if if if they cared long term about America, wouldn't our cities look better?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Wouldn't our cities look better?
Wouldn't we have taken more care to have thriving cities?
It wouldn't take that much more money.
joe rogan
No.
tim dillon
What so to me I start thinking about like it feels like they've given up.
joe rogan
I don't even know if they've given up.
I think it's a strategy.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think there's a strategy.
You need a bunch of discontent.
You need a bunch of people that are upset, you need a bunch of People that are constantly worried about their bills because when you're worried about your bills, you're not worried about anything else.
Right.
You need a bunch of people that are sick, so you need to deny them healthcare.
That's right.
Right.
The claims are not getting accepted.
And then make sure that you've got constant struggle in terms of like what you're allowed to say, what you're not allowed to say.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
And that's where we come in.
tim dillon
People need to be paranoid and scared.
joe rogan
That's what we come in.
Because we were we were an unexpected thing.
I think uh podcasters and social media in general, but they can kind of subvert social media with bots.
You can't really do that with podcasters because you you know that they're really talking or they're not.
You know.
You can do AI stuff like the Tim Walls thing.
tim dillon
Yeah, but no, for sure.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
I think they they were not prepared for this this level of pushback.
joe rogan
No.
tim dillon
That that the citizens are giving on things like Epstein on things like, you know, whatever.
unidentified
Right.
Right?
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
And they're unprepared for how to deal with it.
joe rogan
Epstein accusers put pressure on Congress to release the files.
jamie vernon
This happened about an hour ago there on Capitol Hill giving a two hour press conference, a bunch of accusers, I think for the first time publicly showed their faces, made it interesting.
That they're gonna compile a list since they know the names themselves.
joe rogan
Interesting.
I was all oh whoa.
tim dillon
By the way, Marjorie Taylor Green's been heroic on this.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Look at this quote.
I was only 14 years old when I met Jeffrey.
One of nine female Epstein accusers who appealed at a news conference on Capitol Hill.
What go blah blah blah blah blah.
Uh it was the summer of high school.
I was working three jobs to try to support my mom.
Of course, those are the type of people you grab, right?
When a friend of mine in the neighborhood told me I could make three hundred dollars to give another guy a massage.
Wow.
It went from a dream job to the worst nightmare.
tim dillon
People need to go to jail.
joe rogan
Fuck.
tim dillon
I mean, this is the reality.
People need to go to jail.
joe rogan
Holy fuck.
Okay, hold on.
Uh another Epstein accuser, Annie Farmer, alleged she was 16 in 1996 when she was flown to New Mexico to spend a weekend with Epstein.
Sixteen.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Maxwell and was assaulted.
Her sister Maria was also assaulted there, farmer said, and sensitive photos of the sisters were stolen by Epstein.
The incident was reported to authorities.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
What a fucking psycho that guy was.
tim dillon
Well, I think it's gonna come out.
I think it's gonna come out.
I think it's gonna come out that he was a um not only obviously well known that he was a notorious pedophile, evil guy, but also that he was working for Israel.
I mean, I think this is gonna come out.
And so This is what I've been he's what I what I think, but I also believe is somewhat well known and not a huge secret.
joe rogan
But isn't it it's the whole thing is very strange that you have a pedophile who's also connected to all these insanely wealthy and powerful people and then does something where he gets all these people together for parties, yeah, and then supposedly has all of this information and all this and then you have Pam Bondy saying there's thousands of hours of film.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But then you have Cash Patel saying no, there's nothing.
There's nothing.
He's killed himself.
tim dillon
We're we are we are absolutely 100% going to find some very uncomfortable things out about his relationship with Israel.
I mean, this is not gonna be a piece of paper that says, hey, I'm working, but there's going to be enough circumstantial evidence that's going to connect him not only to our own government, which we I imagine that the CIA was involved as well, but I think it's gonna connect him to I mean this was such a goof.
joe rogan
These are their files that they're holding up for everybody.
The guy with the cowboy hats gotta go.
Who's that guy?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
But that's ridiculous, sir.
jamie vernon
These were old files too when they did this.
unidentified
I was just that fucking cowboy hat's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Just holding up the thing with a wearing a cowboy hat.
We're here for American justice.
unidentified
The Epstein files fi phase one.
tim dillon
There's more they there listen, there's a reason that none of this is come to light, and there's a reason that they're being they're they're dragging their feet on releasing this.
joe rogan
Yeah, because the amount of people that are powerful.
tim dillon
There's so many people ensnared by this.
But also the other thing is like I think it is going to be an uncomfortable and more than uncomfortable, perhaps, with if it comes out that our ally, very close ally of America, was having was you know, was having this happen.
Not obviously it's not the Israeli people, it's not even the Israeli government per se, but it's a s it's a group in whatever you want to call it, these really deep state or their intelligence community that was using Jeffrey Epstein as an access agent to get access to people and leverage on people.
joe rogan
Do you think that he was a pedophile to begin with?
Yeah, this is our guy because he's fucked up.
tim dillon
Absolutely.
joe rogan
And then they have him run things.
But how do you get a pedophile that can keep his shit together?
tim dillon
You find one that's good.
joe rogan
Well, he couldn't, obviously.
tim dillon
Couldn't keep his shit together, but you know, the 90s were a different time.
There's no camera phones.
joe rogan
That's true.
tim dillon
There's no internet.
joe rogan
That's true.
tim dillon
You can intimidate reporters.
You can intimidate uh DAs.
Right.
joe rogan
Or he's just whack people.
jamie vernon
This is a vice article from 2017 about the DC Madam I found earlier, and I thought this was interesting.
They tried to bring the info out later after she had died already.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jamie vernon
Her uh attorney said the records could impact the presidential election.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
What?
tim dillon
Wait a minute.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
jamie vernon
They tried to FOIA the FBI, IRS, and the Postal Inspection Service since they were involved too because it was a male thing.
She was in Northern California.
And they like barely sent any info.
joe rogan
And so this was in 2000 what?
jamie vernon
17.
joe rogan
Wow.
jamie vernon
I think that's when the article was.
joe rogan
There's no presidential election.
tim dillon
Supposedly Jeffrey Epstein said to his brother or to someone, if people knew what I knew, both candidates in the presidential election would have to step down.
That's a quote.
Jamie can find that.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie vernon
Also, wasn't he on the phone with his mother?
In quotes.
Uh before he died.
unidentified
Who?
jamie vernon
Epstein?
In prison.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
They said he was on the phone with his mother for like an hour.
joe rogan
How's he getting on the phone while he's inside the jail?
jamie vernon
His mother's dead, too.
tim dillon
Was the was the thing real about the trust of all the money?
joe rogan
What are you saying?
His mother was already dead?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Before that.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
So who's saying that is he was in on the phone with his mother?
tim dillon
So maybe he was on the phone with someone else.
joe rogan
Yeah, but there's a lot of misinformation that gets attached to true stories to make the stories goofy.
Well, it's the whole comet pizza thing.
tim dillon
Disinfo.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This is the PC.
Oh, fuck yeah.
Something's weird with that.
unidentified
Why is this?
tim dillon
I saw that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What?
tim dillon
The documentary, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Just the the absolute facts.
The summary from uh AI, but uh unmonitored phone call to a girlfriend, though he told prison staff that he was calling his mother, who had been dead for 15 years.
Key details from the report include the call was a violation of policy on the evening, excused himself from a meeting with his lawyers to make a call.
You could just leave you can just make a call in prison.
I thought you have to wait in line for the phone.
The office of the inspector general found that a supervisor at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York allowed Epstein to make an unmonitored call, which was a violation of the Bureau of Prison's policy.
Deception was successful to get permission for the unmonitored call.
Epstein told prison staff that he wanted to call his mother who had died in 2004, instead he called a girlfriend.
The call was not properly logged or recorded.
How convenient.
unidentified
Nice.
joe rogan
The call's content is unknown.
Call was unmonitored and unrecorded.
Investigators could not determine its content.
Oh, why would you determine the content of a guy who's involved the most high profile investors?
tim dillon
They had to get rid of him.
There's no way to keep him around.
And if he is still alive somehow, I don't know where he is, obviously, but there's a possibility he's on at Waxner's compound.
joe rogan
And then there's a fucking guy that he was sharing a cell with.
tim dillon
That guy.
Creepy guy.
joe rogan
Gigantic muscular guy who killed a bunch of killed him.
tim dillon
He could have killed him.
joe rogan
They killed a few people.
tim dillon
They might have killed him.
But there are tapes, I think, that are missing a minute.
They're missing time.
joe rogan
Oh, they found the new minute today.
tim dillon
Did you see that?
joe rogan
The minute the missing minute they conveniently found it today.
Did you hear about that, Jamie?
You didn't hear?
I'll send it to you.
tim dillon
The missing minute.
joe rogan
Yeah, they found it.
They know where it is now.
tim dillon
Oh, well, no worries.
Now it's good.
jamie vernon
I had heard that they knew where it was the whole time.
They just they didn't want to.
Uh yeah, I got it up, Bondra.
joe rogan
You got it?
They knew where it was the whole time.
They just didn't want to tell you.
Release of missing minute of Epstein video contradicts Bondy's camera stop recording.
unidentified
Oh no.
joe rogan
Contradicts Bondi's claim.
Uh video taken outside Epstein's cell on night he died as part of new materials released by the House Oversight Committee.
Wow.
Why do you have that new minute set aside?
What's that?
tim dillon
It's a new minute.
It's Kill Tony.
You gotta do a new minute.
It's Epstein's new minute.
jamie vernon
Still Jeffrey.
This story came out this week too.
Did you see this?
joe rogan
Old master painted looted by Nazis, spotted in Argentinian property listing.
jamie vernon
They found a painting that was stolen and no one had seen it for 200 years or so.
Oh, and they found it Nazis took it and it was found on a like on a Zillow post.
unidentified
What's the I'll double check, but that's crazy.
joe rogan
Well, that's Argentina.
That's the whole thing.
tim dillon
It's the whole thing.
joe rogan
The Argentina, literally, there's towns in Argentina that have Oktoberfest where everybody speaks German.
tim dillon
They're always later over.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's photos of you know, like this is Grandpa in his SS fucking uniforms on the wall.
Yeah, Tim Kennedy did that show Finding Hitler.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Where they went down there and it didn't.
tim dillon
Do you think he went survived?
joe rogan
Yes.
unidentified
Hitler?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim dillon
And went to Argentina.
joe rogan
I think it's very possible that that's the case.
I don't know if it's true, but I I've never seen any photos of his dead.
tim dillon
Of course.
joe rogan
Dead body.
tim dillon
Interesting.
joe rogan
But there is a conspiracy that he went to Argentina, right?
And didn't someone just confirm that recently?
It was in some file.
tim dillon
Someone said he lived and had a bunch of children and was actually a lovely man.
That's what they're saying.
I didn't I'm I didn't I've never met him.
joe rogan
Well, this is the the latest whitewashing of what Hitler is.
This is the problem with history is that there's so much lies that even when you go.
Even about a monster, you go, but maybe it wasn't so bad.
tim dillon
Well, of course.
And I think that like this is part of the reason that it's so difficult because we were lied to so much now, we're so propagandized now that people look back and go, what else is propaganda?
But that can lead you to some dark and bad places.
unidentified
Yes.
tim dillon
And also going back, Hitler's good or something.
joe rogan
And that can be weaponized.
tim dillon
Of course.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's the also the part of the problem with the.
tim dillon
You gotta constantly be um vigilant about your own consuming of information.
joe rogan
You gotta run everything through a filter.
Absolutely.
unidentified
What do you got about the how the uh I found an update on that painting?
jamie vernon
It was uh for sale notice revealed that it was bel uh Frederick Heideggen, which is a financial advisor to Adolf Hitler.
He was placed in charge of moving Nazi plunder to South America, and shortly after the article was published, the painting disappeared.
tim dillon
Just such a funny idea of Hitler having a financial advisor.
But of course he would.
joe rogan
Invest the Jew Gold.
Of course he would.
The son-in-law arrest daughter, son-in-law of Hitler's financial advisor over looted painting.
How would they know?
jamie vernon
But they failed the I think it might have been their house.
joe rogan
Failed, but how would they know where the painting came from?
Portrait of a lady, which has been missing since the s for sale.
Notice revealed it was a Nazi fugitive.
Fredrik Cadigan's home.
Wow.
Argentina.
So what is the what is the theory about Hitler going to Argentina?
Because someone said that.
And it was a supposedly at least semi-credible that there it there might be some truth to the idea that Hitler went to Argentina and escaped.
And the idea of him dying in the bunker was just bullshit.
tim dillon
No, it's very possible.
And he lived there, I supposedly and had children and grandchildren.
That's what I read recently.
joe rogan
Yeah, I read it recently too, but I don't know if that's true either.
But here's the thing.
The true but what is true is Nazis went to Argentina 100%.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
100%.
That's true.
And Brazil as well.
tim dillon
But then also, didn't they hunt them?
Didn't like the Israelis hunt them and find a lot of them.
joe rogan
Absolutely, yeah.
tim dillon
Yeah, it's wild.
joe rogan
They caught a bunch of them.
tim dillon
They got a bunch of them.
joe rogan
Yeah, because a lot of these idiots, you know, they're in their daughter's Facebook posts in the background.
They're running through facial recognition software.
And they're like, oh, look at that.
That's Adolph.
tim dillon
That's good that's Gerhard.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at him.
Go get him.
Yeah, they found these guys.
They prosecuted when they're in their 90s and shit.
tim dillon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's wild.
I was a CIA agent.
There's growing proof Hitler faked his death, and I think I know where he was hiding.
tim dillon
Where was it?
Was it Austin?
joe rogan
See, but you say he's a CIA agent, I'm like, okay.
Are you bullshit?
Did you sell drugs in LA?
Right.
Like what you know?
tim dillon
Right, right.
joe rogan
Who are you?
tim dillon
Do you really know?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's a US CIA agent currently?
tim dillon
If Hitler was alive today, he'd be too old.
So he has to be dead.
joe rogan
Oh, he's dead.
He's definitely dead.
But the thing is, like, did he really go to Argentina and how did no one take a picture of him there?
tim dillon
I guess you know, there's probably a lot of people.
You always picks off the great point about the Pacific Northwest.
You could kind of go up there and really disappear.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
tim dillon
In the thicket of the forest.
joe rogan
Right?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim dillon
I mean, there's supposedly there's food.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You need food and resources if you don't know how to hunt.
And even if you do know how to hunt, you need to refrigerate things, or you need a power source.
It's not easy.
tim dillon
That's the densest woods in America is Pacific Northwest.
joe rogan
Oh, it's crazy up there.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
When Duncan and I went with looking for Bigfoot, because uh we did a show we did a show.
Well, we went up there with Hitler.
It's basically unfuckable white guys out camping.
That was a joke.
Here's what you don't find when you go looking for Bigfoot.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
Black people.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
You're more likely to find Bigfoot than you are black people looking for Bigfoot.
It's unfuckable white guys and fucking guys, yeah.
And you know, they're having fun and they they're looking at like shadows.
Yeah, I think that's him.
Look at the outline of the body, the front.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
They're all dorks.
tim dillon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Um but that the thing is, bears occasionally walk on two legs, and if you see one in the Pacific Northwest, what you're looking at is like the trees are like this.
It's like a b the why the way I describe it always is like a box of Q tips.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're so densely stacked in there.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
You can't see 15 yards.
You can't see any.
It's crazy how dense it is out there.
But if you're gonna build a house out there and survive out there, you're gonna have to have a path, you're gonna have to be able to chop down wood and build a house.
Or you have to bring in other materials.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How are you gonna get water pipes so then you don't have running water?
If you don't have pipes, okay, what do you you shitting in an outhouse?
tim dillon
Like how how are the winters out there tough?
They're not as tough as the East Coast.
joe rogan
Right.
No, I mean it might snow a little, but like Mount Rainier up there, it's not that bad.
You could live.
It's just wet.
tim dillon
People disappear.
It's supposedly like one of those ancient portals of whatever.
Here it is.
joe rogan
So there's an Archie.
jamie vernon
Here's some documents that that the government and Argentina or Argentina.
joe rogan
Well, you know how it's re legit?
Because they put a black line through secrets.
tim dillon
That's right.
jamie vernon
That's the CIA document.
joe rogan
Hitler hideout in Argentina.
So this is what was it say at the top there?
It says approved for release 2020, September uh or excuse me, uh July 14th.
jamie vernon
So they were saying that the CIA was searching for Hitler in Argentina up to ten years after he was known to have been dead.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie vernon
But even this says like they have a source and they don't know if it's true or even reliable.
But you know, they have to look into it, I suppose.
Interesting.
joe rogan
Well, you know, if you send fucking CIA down to Argentina, the odds of them not getting busted.
Like people are gonna know immediately is Dorks come by fucking wearing eyes odd shirts.
tim dillon
Yeah, and so what's the thing?
They just couldn't find him?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Or I mean What's this?
jamie vernon
These are these are some of the files that came out.
joe rogan
With a man who claimed to be Hitler on a beach in Columbia.
tim dillon
Kind of look like Hitler.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's and he's got his legs crossed like Gavin Newsom.
tim dillon
Why would he claim to be Hitler?
Like why would he say I'm Hitler?
joe rogan
No, go back to that photo.
tim dillon
People just want attention.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of people that want attention.
tim dillon
People just want attention.
joe rogan
That is the worst photo I've ever seen in my life.
I could draw a better photo than that if you gave me 20 minutes.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
I mean, I update it.
jamie vernon
See what it looks like.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
Do that.
joe rogan
Do that.
Fuck yeah.
What a wonderful time we live in.
tim dillon
Let's see if it really is Hitler.
joe rogan
Tell uh AI to update this photo and then tell it to give him the Sharon Osborne.
tim dillon
Big is Argentina.
joe rogan
It's pretty big.
tim dillon
Okay.
So you could get lost.
joe rogan
But it's very wooded.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And uh a lot of cattle ranches.
tim dillon
Small towns and stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's uh they're famous for their beef.
tim dillon
Right.
It's amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're they they're really good at cooking stuff.
tim dillon
So you could conceivably, if you're Hitler be not you could live there and not be Perhaps.
Yeah.
joe rogan
The thing is that you're an old man and old men need medical resources.
You need you need running water.
You you know, the odds of you existing in the forest, like the people have this romantic idea of being like a subsistence hunter.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where are you gonna get all your bullets?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know, you this it ain't that simple, man.
Are you gonna make your own arrows?
Shut the fuck up.
You're you're not gonna kill anything with those things.
Shut your fucking dirty mouth.
Like how are you gonna where are you getting your broadheads?
tim dillon
It's not gonna happen.
joe rogan
It's too hard to hunt.
tim dillon
It's too hard.
joe rogan
Hunting is hard.
unidentified
No, you need the you need the amenities too.
joe rogan
Yeah, you need food.
tim dillon
Of course.
joe rogan
You need someone to bring in grain.
Of course.
You need you need rice and you need beans and you need stuff for substance.
You you you you need to survive.
Like the idea that you're just gonna live in the woods is nonsense.
It's fucking crazy.
tim dillon
It's crazy.
joe rogan
How many bullets do you bring in, man?
You know?
tim dillon
Not enough.
joe rogan
You better have boxes and boxes of boxes and boxes of bullets.
jamie vernon
Southern CIA document says that he moved from Colombia to Argentina in January 1995.
joe rogan
1955.
jamie vernon
But uh because ten years had passed since the end of the war, the Allies could no longer prosecute Hitler as a criminal of war.
Is that true?
unidentified
What a minute, what?
tim dillon
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Is this the CIA documents?
These different documents.
But they look so fake.
They look more fake than that photo.
Did you run that photo through AI?
jamie vernon
It's still doing it.
joe rogan
Let's see what it says it.
Update it.
Creating an image.
This might take a moment.
Okay.
It's like the old days.
You don't you weren't around back then, but like AOL.
When you get a picture of a a naked lady.
tim dillon
Yeah.
jamie vernon
It'd be real funny if it's really.
joe rogan
No, it's gonna we're gonna crack the case.
jamie vernon
Yeah, this one says someone had talking to him.
He was once once a month speaking to him in Colombia.
joe rogan
On his trip.
jamie vernon
That's where that picture came from.
joe rogan
Wow.
What?
Okay.
So Philip Citrone, former German SS soldier, SS trooper, stated to him confidentially that Adolf Hitler is still alive.
So Tron claimed to have contacted Hitler about once a month in Colombia on his trip from how do you say that?
Marcibo?
Marcibo to that country as an employee of Royal Dutch shipping company in Maribo.
So Trone uh indicated to what's that word?
jamie vernon
It's it's spelled I think that's their contact, and that's what they have in classified.
joe rogan
Uh a friend that he took a picture with Hitler not too long ago, but did not show the photograph.
He also stated that Hitler left Colombia for Argentina, Argentina around January of 1955.
So Tron com imagine he survived ten fucking years.
That would be so crazy.
tim dillon
It's very possible.
joe rogan
Whoa.
tim dillon
Wow.
I mean, that's kind of Hitler, no?
joe rogan
Whoa.
tim dillon
People used to really dress back then.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim dillon
You know?
People really did dress.
unidentified
Okay.
tim dillon
That if that's a formality.
joe rogan
Does anybody else run that through AI?
And what is AI doing to achieve that image?
jamie vernon
It could have I mean, obviously it's just got really good.
Yeah, for plausible deniability, I would go, it could think it's Hitler and just found a piece of the bigger.
And make it here and make it made it Hitler.
But the other guy doesn't really look like that guy.
joe rogan
Well, why is the mustache like less defined in the second photo?
Like it looks like shit.
He would be like, This is not how they do my face.
tim dillon
It looks very young there, Hitler.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
Hitler looks great there.
joe rogan
Yeah, always getting that Argentinian beef.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Probably a lot of you know, adrenichrome down there too.
tim dillon
I mean, this is one of those situations where it's like zoom in on the face again.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
I don't even know what kind of chair it would be.
It's kind of it's so strange.
joe rogan
I'm not sure if that's really it's so hard.
Right.
tim dillon
We don't know if it's real or not.
jamie vernon
I would go to assume it's not.
tim dillon
If it is real, Hitler looks great.
joe rogan
The fo the face looks d slightly different than Hitler though, doesn't it?
tim dillon
I I guess so.
But I mean maybe he lost weight.
joe rogan
Maybe just a guy's better.
Because nobody else would.
tim dillon
There's also a chance Hitler was very relaxed in Argentina and c kind of Columbia, it's kind of like the South American way of life.
The siestas kind of large meal in the middle of the day.
joe rogan
Yeah, go to a photo.
Wow, actually it does look like him, doesn't it?
tim dillon
It looks a lot like Hitler, but kind of a r a retired Hitler who's relaxed.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ten years later.
But he doesn't look 10 years older.
jamie vernon
That's the problem that I have.
So I don't know if that was from 55.
That'd be 20 years.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
He doesn't look 20 years older.
joe rogan
So that's speech from 35 up in the left corner.
Yeah.
Isn't it amazing he's stuck with that stupid mustache?
Like why do you think it's a good thing?
tim dillon
It was his but it's his call, you know, it's his calling card.
It was his thing.
You know, some people just they they get a thing and it's you know.
joe rogan
Oh, do you know why they went with that mustache?
Because the gas masks.
tim dillon
Oh.
joe rogan
So if you want to have a seal over your face, so the Nazis were the first to use gas in warfare.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
And um when you have the wear the gas mask, you want a tight seal.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You can't have a big old fucking handlebar mustache.
tim dillon
That makes sense.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
So he pr he just kept the stash.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
He kept it.
joe rogan
I think that's why he had that mustache.
I think that's the case.
tim dillon
I bet.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you know that that gas was created by Fritz Haber, who also created the Hopper method for extracting nitrogen from the air, which is responsible for 50% of the world's fertilizer.
tim dillon
Interesting.
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He was healthy.
tim dillon
Is that called the Cyclone B or no?
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, Zyclon A was the gas that was originally used the where you could smell it.
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
And the idea of the smell was supposed to let you know that this is dangerous.
Get the fuck away from it.
Right.
Zyclon B, they took the smell out.
unidentified
So they could get past the Jews.
joe rogan
So this guy created this gas that they were going to use in World War One, and uh he was being wanted for crimes against humanity at the same time he was going to win a Nobel Prize for creating the Hober method for extracting nitrogen.
Yeah.
Fifty percent of the supposedly 50% of the nitrogen in everyone's body today comes from the Hobber method.
tim dillon
Interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It's cra the story's crazy.
tim dillon
It's an interesting, it's like two roads diverged in a wood.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
One of them is the fertilizer.
joe rogan
Not only that, he was Jewish.
And so he wound up having to flee uh because they accepted him at first because hey, this is the guy that gave us the gas.
And they're like, no, here's a jewel.
And so eventually he had to take off.
And so he died of heart failure while he was fleeing.
While he was fleeing the country.
tim dillon
So they made him flee because he was Jewish.
Because he was Jewish.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
He wasn't ripping them off on the gas.
It was gouging.
joe rogan
It was gas gouging.
tim dillon
You don't think he was like, I'm the only one that can do this?
I'm the only one.
The margins are reasonable.
joe rogan
Oh, the whole story's crazy.
tim dillon
It is a crazy story.
joe rogan
His wife hated what he was doing and she uh committed suicide in front of him.
And uh she was still dramatic.
Still alive, but shot herself, and then he left uh the wife with his 13-year-old son to go to the front line.
tim dillon
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
To fight with the allies.
joe rogan
Well, to make sure that his gas gets implemented properly with the giant fans.
tim dillon
Oh, interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was the first time they'd ever utilized that.
tim dillon
Interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And supposedly that's where Hitler developed the love of that mustache.
Because in order to have that gas mask to survive the gas, you have to have a tight seal on your face.
tim dillon
It's such a these little you these little snapshots into you know, just like again from a mustache to the gas mask, it's so crazy.
The little snapshots.
jamie vernon
Claim he used a fake name, but his first name's still Adolph.
Wouldn't you not do that?
A better name.
joe rogan
He used a false identity with Citron specified as Adolf Schrittl.
His account was supported by a photograph taken by the residents.
Yeah, but the problem is when you change your first nave, everybody forgets.
You know?
If you if all of a sudden you became Mark, and I was like, oh, sorry, Tim.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
It's too complicated.
But if you became Tim Wilson, I'm like, oh, you just change your last name.
That's not Tim Dylan.
That's Tim Wilson.
You get a new head.
You get a new head like uh like the Osborne girl.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you could just blend right in.
tim dillon
I go to Peter Thiel's Satan conference with a whole new head.
joe rogan
There you go.
tim dillon
He doesn't know who it is.
joe rogan
Never know.
tim dillon
He doesn't know who's sitting there for four parts.
I should go to the Peter Seal Peter Teal Satan lecture in America.
joe rogan
Well, you can't get in, it's sold out.
tim dillon
It's sold out and it's private.
joe rogan
Well, imagine buying a ticket to that.
Like, what do you want to do?
You want to go to the movies?
No.
You want to go see a concert?
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Peter Thiel's giving a lecture on the Antichrist.
tim dillon
It's clearly such a let's get a baby's.
It's clearly such a you know odd attempt at positioning whatever you want to do is like we're gonna you know, i we're we're trying to fight the antichrist.
This is what I think he's doing.
joe rogan
He has very esoteric interests, and this is just one of them.
Like if you're worth that amount of money and you're just really into weird stuff, like the uh I don't know why he brought me over the house to uh meet Eric von Danekin, but I was not that influential back then.
I was I was not someone that you would have on the radar as being the guy who is gonna affect presidential campaigns.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was a MMA commentator who's a dirty comedian who talks shit on the internet.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like that was it.
And I had had Eric on my podcast before, and that's how Eric and I became friends, and he knew that I had a deep interest in and I I've read Von Von Danagen's book, I've watched his documentary, and I know that a lot of that stuff has been debunked.
And that's one of the reasons why they wanted to be bring me over to ask him questions.
And you know Von Danekin is a true believer of a lot of that stuff.
And uh I used to think he was totally wrong, and now I don't.
Like if I interviewed him again today, I would have a different p perspective.
Because um I used to think that the idea that we were visited by ancient aliens and that aliens helped them build the pyramids and all this stuff, that's I used to think that's all silly.
What's really going on is there was a collapse of uh a very sophisticated civilization b because of some sort of a cataclysmic dil disaster, and then uh we're trying to make sense of this without an understanding of what their technology was.
Now I think both might be true.
tim dillon
Well, yeah, and it's supposed to be it seems there's more interest now in the Uh UAP phenomenon than there's ever been.
joe rogan
There's a lot of that, but I also think that's because look, if you've been in charge of back engineering spaceships, so you've been a charge of lying to Congress and misappropriating funds in order to have the amount of money that you would need to do this stuff.
And then through all of this, you've achieved substantial gains in whether it's fiber optics or whatever the technology that you've back engineered where you figured out how to make something that's like completely spectacular.
You uh you're in a situation where as transparency becomes more and more of the norm.
Like one of the things that's gonna happen with um with AI and uh then most certainly with quantum computing, is all decryption all encryption, all hiding, all that stuff goes away.
It it becomes a real problem with resources because almost all money is just ones and zeros.
So like who's got access to it, who does it, it's gonna be nuts.
Like solving all that's gonna be nuts.
But also hiding information is gonna be virtually impossible.
And if there's if there's people that know eventually at one point in time, they're gonna have to pay the toll.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
Like something so we've got to get ahead of this.
Yes, and the best way to get ahead of this is like this age of disclosure documentary.
One of the things that all these spooks, all these like former former w you know, deep deep state guys who are now whistleblowers.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm doing air quotes on my fingers for people who are just listening.
Um, they all talk about amnesty.
It's just that this is the secret to all this stuff.
The secret to the only way you're going to be able to do all this is you gotta give Amnesty for all the people that committed all these crimes because the general public needs to know that this stuff exists.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So I don't know if that's the case.
But I do know the historical accounts of us being visited are very consistent and they've been going on forever.
I have no experience.
I have nothing.
I've never seen anything that crazy, except on subsists.
On a few things.
But not on not sober.
I've never seen anything.
Right.
So I'm just it's all anecdotal to me.
I've never held a piece of something that oh my God, it's from another world.
But my friend Jesse Michaels just went down to Peru and they did all these medical scans of these tridactyl mummies, and they're not they're not fake.
Whatever the fuck these things are in the fetal position, they have all the ligaments and tendons, their heads are huge.
They look like a fucking alien.
They have three fingers and three toes, and there's a few of them.
They're like three feet tall, and these things are 1700 years old, and they look exactly like all these things that people claim to see when they get abducted by aliens.
Not only that, they're in Peru, which is the home of many of these monolithic huge megastructure sites like Machu Picchu and a lot of the legend coming out of there too.
Yeah, well, also the Naska lines, like immense artwork that you could only see from the sky.
Also all their artwork, uh like they have ancient artwork depicting three-fingered, three-toed beings with big heads and big eyes.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What the fuck is all this stuff?
tim dillon
It's gotta be something.
joe rogan
It's gotta be something.
And so my approach to that because I go, Jamie and I just talked about this yesterday.
We go back and forth and back and forth on the alien thing.
I think some of it's probably real, and I think it might be where this where Egypt springs from, where the sub-Saharan Sub-Saharan sub-Saharan Africa, like this this whole thing where they think that maybe that was the center of Atlantis.
That was why were they so much more sophisticated than anybody else?
How did they develop these kind of st how old are these goddamn structures?
No one really knows.
They're just guessing.
It's because it's stone.
tim dillon
Why does it feel like right now there seems to be a renewed interest in this stuff?
Is it just the technology?
Is it the internet?
There are more people, there's more documentaries, there's more pop culture.
joe rogan
For UIP stuff?
tim dillon
Yeah, is it are we ahead of some kind of disclosure?
Or are we uh are we are we what are we what is the the why is this happening now?
joe rogan
Well, I think the New York Times in 2017 opened the the dam.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
That was the big thing.
When they published on the front page of the New York Times this story about UAPs with credible accounts.
You know, I had Gary Nolan on the podcast recently, and one of the things that he said is they have radar of that Tic Tac thing from 2004, where it goes from sea level to 50,000 feet in less than a second.
He said, assuming this thing weighed two tons, which is like you know, a regular car, it would take all of the energy that the United States produces in a year to achieve that to go that fast with a four thousand pound thing.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
To go from zero to fifty thousand feet in less than a second.
That's how much energy it would take to do that.
tim dillon
It's it's it's that's real.
It's real, yeah.
No, no.
That's what's weird.
joe rogan
Like that's radar.
tim dillon
And you've had Ross Calthard on that guy.
joe rogan
No, I have not.
tim dillon
He's an interesting guy from Australia.
He there they're they talk about stuff like this, and it's just I can you know what's really hard about this stuff is you can never like it's a nebulous.
You know?
joe rogan
Exactly.
tim dillon
Cause like we can talk about this yeah, we could talk about all these things that are provable and exist and there's names and dates and things, and you could go, they manufactured this or they Yeah.
Well, this stuff we're talking about government agencies without a name or name that's unknown to us.
Yeah, in locales we've never been, yeah.
In underground cities, it's all very speculative for my taste.
I don't doubt that some level of it happens, obviously.
But we're talking about I don't know how to even approach it.
There's so many people talking about it that probably have no idea what they're talking about.
It's so hard.
joe rogan
Well, schizophrenics involved.
tim dillon
A lot of schizophrenics.
joe rogan
A lot of people that are just complete scam artists that are lying about having been abducted.
There's a lot of ego involved.
Uh people want to be special, they want to be the type of person that the aliens are really interested in.
You know.
tim dillon
It's hard.
joe rogan
It's hard.
And uh again, with no personal experience.
But then when you talk to people that have had personal experiences, it's very odd how compelling they are.
tim dillon
I bet.
joe rogan
And they don't seem kooky.
Like I talked to this guy, Travis Walton, who's abducted in the 1970s in the forests of Arizona.
Um he doesn't seem crazy, man.
He doesn't seem like a liar.
tim dillon
I bet he's not.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Bob Lazar doesn't seem crazy, doesn't seem like a liar.
And not only that, but a lot of the things that Bob Lazar said turned out to be true.
And I think it was 1989 when George Knapp first interviewed him on television.
He was hiding his face, but he was talking about Area S4.
Area 51 wasn't even confirmed back then.
That wasn't something that they really confirmed.
The government didn't confirm it until they tried to expand the boundaries of Area 51 in the Obama administration because too many people were going out there and filming things.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So they had to go, no, the the place where you can't go is way further because you fucking assholes have good telescopes.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So he was talking about something that was completely unknown to the general public.
Because it wasn't even just Area 51, it was Site 4.
It was S4.
And he talked about this place that now we know for sure they were doing these black ops, these black funded programs where they were creating military vehicles and they're there they were flying people in and out of that area.
tim dillon
And who's doing it?
So this is a level of we we would imagine this is like uh military intelligence that is not no oversight.
No oversight.
joe rogan
Yeah, no oversight.
tim dillon
President really doesn't know, Congress doesn't know.
joe rogan
Have you ever listened to the well, you ever watched the Jeremy Corbell documentary on Lazar?
tim dillon
No.
joe rogan
You should watch it.
tim dillon
I would like to.
joe rogan
Fucking crazy.
tim dillon
Is it where is it?
joe rogan
It's on Amazon, Netflix, it's on probably all those things.
tim dillon
Because that's the thing about me.
It's like Congress doesn't know.
President doesn't know.
And then there's a lot of CIA stuff where they don't know about this.
But this feels like another subterranean layer that very few people know anything about.
joe rogan
And uh the way you're gonna get these things done, like if you do have something you have to back engineer it.
Well who do you bring in?
Well, you bring military contractors in because they make jets.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
They make spaceships.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
Those are the people you bring in.
tim dillon
You're not gonna just get your And they sign a bunch of documents and they don't say anything and they're surveilled to make sure they don't say anything.
joe rogan
Exactly.
tim dillon
And if they say something, you kill them.
joe rogan
So the Lazar story was he was um he worked for um Fucking what is the lab in New Mexico?
What what's that place that why am I forgetting the name?
The the place that Lazar worked for in New Mexico.
God damn it.
tim dillon
Los Alamos?
joe rogan
Yes, thank you.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why can't I why am I forgetting that?
So he worked at Los Alamos Labs.
Um they denied that he worked there, but he was actually on the employee roster.
And uh there's articles in New Mexico in one of the local newspapers about Lazar being a genius who put a jet engine on the back of a Honda.
Like he was a crazy propulsions guy.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
That was what he was interested in.
That's what he clearly a brilliant guy.
When you talk to him, when you listen to him talk, like clearly brilliant.
And so they brought him to Area S4, and they said, figure this thing out.
And they had this spaceship that was sitting in a hangar.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they had an American flag sticker on it.
And he said his initial thought was, Oh, that's what's going on.
So all these people that are seeing this thing, this is ours.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It's okay.
Right.
Makes sense.
Then he started looking around it.
And he started getting first of all, he said it was 3D printed or something because it didn't have any seams.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And then it's not designed for human beings.
It's designed for something that's three feet tall, and uh it doesn't have any controls inside of it.
So there's some sort of a connection between the mind of whatever the fuck is running it and this thing, and then it had some very bizarre generator inside of it that he said used an element that was unknown.
This element was called element one fifteen.
They have a stable version of this element.
They bombard it with radiation, and it creates this sort of gravity warp that allows it to bend space and time instead of using a traditional propulsion system.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
So they didn't even this element wasn't even proven until the somewhere in the 2000s, they with the large hadron collider.
So they got a very s a glimpse of this element.
So now this element is a real element, but we don't have a stable version of it.
But supposedly Lazar did.
And one of the things that they allege is that he escaped Area S4 with uh a piece of this stuff, a piece of this stable element.
And then he's been hiding this forever.
So one of the things he did with George Knapp was he made uh a video demonstrating how this element bends space and time around.
unidentified
Right.
Right.
joe rogan
And it's like I gotta watch that talk.
tim dillon
It is interesting.
I've never heard it's the one area I've never gotten super into.
It's very difficult.
joe rogan
The Corbell documentary is excellent.
tim dillon
It's very difficult.
joe rogan
It got me way back into UFOs again.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was ready to dismiss him again.
I'm like, ready to leave.
I'm back.
But that's what it supposedly it looks like.
That thing right there on the desk.
tim dillon
Yeah, that makes sense.
joe rogan
That's the sport craft.
unidentified
And that's what transported Hitler to Argentina.
joe rogan
Well, that's where it gets weird too.
Because the the hit the the Nazis were very interested in like advanced technology.
They're into the occult.
Yeah.
tim dillon
All of these big constellations of power are interested in the occult.
joe rogan
Why is that?
tim dillon
No idea.
joe rogan
Probably because they feel like that evil and good are real things.
tim dillon
And that they can well, for sure.
And I also think that they try to try to they're interested in in sources of power.
That seems to be something they're interested in, sources of power.
joe rogan
Yeah, and back in the 40s, people still believed in witches.
You probably they probably completely believe that there was sorcery was real.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
Some way to you know to use spells and powers.
And if you're trying to like run the world like the Nazis were, and you're meth.
You're on meth too.
tim dillon
You're on meth and you're trying to run the world.
You know?
That's amazing.
They had no idea that it was just all of the stuff, the witches and everything they believed, it was just so that Kris Jenner could get a third head.
joe rogan
So we wrap this up.
tim dillon
Thank you so much.
joe rogan
My pleasure, brother.
Hang with you.
tim dillon
Oh, I'll see you tonight.
joe rogan
Yes, we're gonna have fun tonight at the club.
That should be a good time.
unidentified
Awesome.
joe rogan
Ron White's gonna be there.
tim dillon
Yes, love it.
joe rogan
We're gonna we're gonna party.
tim dillon
We're gonna have fun.
joe rogan
Yes, sir.
tim dillon
Thank you again.
unidentified
My pleasure.
All right.
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