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Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan.
Podcast by night, all day.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But yeah, this is a turkey mark.
He sent us these and some zombie ones.
tim dillon
Sick.
joe rogan
Not the best to drink out of them.
tim dillon
You can't drink out of it.
joe rogan
Because it's like curved at the top, so you spill all that stuff, but who cares?
tim dillon
You got to put something in it and then just have it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You know, pens or something.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Drugs.
Yeah, it would be good for drugs.
Looking at that phase.
tim dillon
It'd be great.
joe rogan
If you had some drugs laying around, that's the spot.
So we were talking about the video that Trump posted, this video of them drone bombing some narco guys in the middle of the ocean.
tim dillon
And Venezuelan drug traffickers, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
I think that's what it was.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Venezuelan.
joe rogan
Trandiagaragua.
tim dillon
Trendiagua.
It's a real thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
They're a real thing.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
tim dillon
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
You know?
joe rogan
He's accusing the president of Venezuela of being involved.
unidentified
Right?
tim dillon
That could lead to an interesting place, you know?
I mean, it could lead to a, I imagine we're doing that because we're trying to suggest that it would be better if he wasn't the president.
joe rogan
Probably something along those lines.
I mean, isn't there like a bounty on him?
tim dillon
I believe there is.
joe rogan
I think it's like open in public.
There's like a $50 million bounty on him.
tim dillon
Yeah, I think they want to get rid of him.
joe rogan
Is that what the number is?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
$50 million.
There it is.
Place.
tim dillon
David.
joe rogan
Place a $50 million bounty for information leading to the arrest of Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro.
tim dillon
They've been trying to knock him off for a while.
joe rogan
Yeah, it said he's accusing him of heading a drug trafficking network.
I don't know if that's the case, but speaking to Ed Calderon that I had on the other day, who's an expert on Mexico?
And you remember when there was like all the assassinations in the last election?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's like 37 different assassinations in Mexico.
He said it's because they're all cartel.
It's not like they're not just assassinating regular people.
The cartel's putting these people in to be like the mayor or this or that.
And then these other people who have other cartel people are killing them.
tim dillon
So it's cartels.
Exactly.
joe rogan
It's all warring cartels.
So here, here it is.
This is the president is posting assassinations on social media.
tim dillon
Is this?
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're going to get the chance to see it.
And the doge.
Instant.
Pretty accurate.
tim dillon
Pretty fucking accurate.
joe rogan
Very impressive.
tim dillon
Pretty impressive.
A lot of wasted drugs.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, probably a lot of people.
tim dillon
A lot of wasted drugs.
joe rogan
Probably bad drugs.
tim dillon
Well, this is a big problem is that the drugs now are worse than they've ever been.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
tim dillon
I mean, all drugs are bad, but the drugs now seem to be unbelievably bad.
joe rogan
Well, it's a fentanyl.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Ed was explaining that, too.
He's like the soil that they grow the poppies on to make heroin is so bad.
It's so taxed out that the heroin was very weak and they couldn't sell it.
So they had to add fentanyl to the heroin to make it stronger.
tim dillon
And they spice it up.
They cut it with fentanyl.
joe rogan
Exactly.
tim dillon
And fentanyl is what is killing everybody that's doing cocaine and it's laced with fentanyl and then they drop.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
It's terrible.
joe rogan
And it all comes from China.
Yeah.
tim dillon
Well, yeah.
And I mean, there's all the precursors, everything.
It is kind of a way, if you are a foreign country, it is a way to, it is some type of warfare.
Oh, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
For sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a bunch of different things that they're doing for sure to try to destabilize the United States.
Yeah.
And that, which includes social media, which is why I tell people, do not argue with people on social media because I bet most of those people aren't even real.
Yeah.
There's a giant amount of people that are on social media that are there just to keep arguments going.
tim dillon
Absolutely.
Lots of bots.
joe rogan
Lots of bots.
tim dillon
Sure.
joe rogan
And this was something that came up yesterday where they were using ChatGPT.
So they have sort of a program that runs ChatGPT.
So it acts like real humans.
And it was attacking people about USAID and trans issues, all sorts of different stuff.
tim dillon
Is that Grok?
joe rogan
No, Grok is the AI from X. So that's the Twitter AI.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So Chat Government.
Chat GPT.
tim dillon
That's the based AI.
Grok.
unidentified
Sort of.
tim dillon
Grok is kind of the one who's based.
joe rogan
It got removed for a little bit.
Well, that's how you know Israel was committing genocide.
tim dillon
What I like about Grok is that occasionally it's removed.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
That's how I know Grok's onto something because it's occasionally put in timeout and then it comes back.
Any AI that's not removed, I don't trust.
I need an AI that's getting removed pretty frequently when it runs up against an issue.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a good call.
Yeah.
tim dillon
I'm not saying all of Grok is good, but I'm saying I've read Grok and I've said, this is an interesting guy to talk to at a bar because he's saying things that.
joe rogan
A little controversial.
unidentified
Little fun.
joe rogan
A little fun.
tim dillon
Little fun.
joe rogan
A little out there.
A little pressure.
tim dillon
Pretty wild.
joe rogan
Do you see the German right-wing party?
Seven members have died leading up to the election over the last couple days.
tim dillon
And this is the AD AFD or something.
I saw that.
That seems a bit spooky that that's going on.
joe rogan
That's suspicious.
Yeah.
tim dillon
That's very interesting.
How did they all die?
joe rogan
Germany's far-right AFD suffers a series of candidate deaths ahead of local votes.
Well, I would imagine they were assassinated, Tim.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
No evidence of foul play.
tim dillon
Thank God.
Thank God I was worried.
joe rogan
Three odds that that many people that are a part of something die that quickly.
Yeah.
They said it was six, but today it's seven.
Number of deaths as, nevertheless, raise questions on social media.
That said, like, if they really are far-right extremists, maybe they're out there doing fentanyl.
Maybe they're wacky people.
tim dillon
Maybe they're doing, maybe they're doing something.
Seven seems like a really inconvenient number of people to die before an election.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
That seems to be one suspect.
joe rogan
Right up there with the Mexican assassination.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Well, this is Europe right now has become, you know, we had our election.
So then the UK right now is kind of the most interesting place to watch because of everything that's taking place.
And Germany is not far behind.
But like, this is where a lot of the tumult in the world is coming to a head in like Europe, the UK, things with migration, things with speech that we talked about.
joe rogan
Yeah, the Graham Linehan stuff.
tim dillon
Crazy.
joe rogan
He left this podcast, and I was telling him, why are you going to go back?
Like, it seems crazy to go back because he's living in America now.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I'm like, why are you going to go back?
He's like, well, I have to.
I have a court case.
He's getting sued by some crazy trans person and goes back and was arrested for three tweets.
tim dillon
And what were the, do we know what the tweets were?
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, one of them is a photo of a trans rally.
It says a photo that you can smell.
tim dillon
I mean, it's like so wild that you would be put in handcuffs for that tweet.
joe rogan
The other one is a photo of these trans people where he commented homophobes and misogynists, all of them.
Fuck them.
tim dillon
Right.
Right.
joe rogan
Imagine.
tim dillon
You would think that would put you in the clear.
joe rogan
Imagine.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's one of the posts that they cited as being the reason for arresting him.
Interesting and then the other one is saying that if a man who identifies as a woman enters a woman's bathroom he is committing a and We should pull it up just like yeah, so I don't misquote it.
I I retweeted it, so it's on my Twitter page if you want to find it.
But something about that it's a I forget how he described the act, but the problem was that he said you should yell, you should call authorities, yell, and if that doesn't work, punch him in the balls.
tim dillon
Right.
Fun.
joe rogan
Yeah, fun.
So here it is.
If a trans-identified male is in a female-only space, he is committing a violent abusive act.
Make a scene, call the cops, and if all else fails, punch him in the balls.
Arresting you belong in a locked up cage for that.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Well, there's something really terrifying about the idea that any tweet outside of a direct threat or a harassment campaign or something that falls into that category would get you arrested.
Any tweet.
This is so innocuous and silly and not at all what you would think would rise to the level.
Not that anything should rise to the level, but the fact that they're going to put you in jail for that, it just sends a message to people that they cannot have an opinion counter to whatever the government decides is the right opinion.
joe rogan
Because it's totally illogical.
Like they arrested a kid for yelling, I love bacon.
Have you seen that one?
tim dillon
Yeah, because he was supposedly, it was Islamophobic to love bacon.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
He was yelling at these.
tim dillon
My Islamophobia and my love of bacon are completely separate things.
joe rogan
Not only that, you can go to Muslim countries and yell, I love bacon.
There's no laws against it.
tim dillon
I will be doing it at the React Comedy Festival very soon.
unidentified
Get your tickets.
Get your tickets.
joe rogan
Are you really going to go there?
tim dillon
Of course I am.
unidentified
Wow.
tim dillon
Why would I not?
Would they kill gay people and women?
By the way, we said that about every Muslim, every Muslim country is throwing gay people off the roof all the time, by the way.
Okay.
I obviously don't agree with Saudi Arabian policies on women and things like that.
Is it my business to tell Saudi Arabia how to live?
Truly.
joe rogan
How big was the check?
tim dillon
$375,000 for one show.
unidentified
Nice.
tim dillon
That's not bad.
joe rogan
That's pretty good.
tim dillon
That's not bad.
joe rogan
I'll take that.
tim dillon
I'll watch a behanding for that.
joe rogan
Be-handing?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
It's called a be-handing.
What happens is they cut the hand off the thief.
Here's the thing: all the people that have yelled at me for this are also pro-letting migrants and refugees into America at very high numbers.
Now, the same religion that is supposedly so terrifying that I cannot spend 24 hours in that country is the same religion that all of these migrants and refugees are pretty supportive of that are coming over.
So it feels weird to me that people are getting on a moral high horse and going, it is so dangerous to go to Saudi Arabia for 48 hours.
Why?
Well, because they do X, Y, and Z. Well, why do they do that?
Well, there's this religion.
It's crazy.
I go, okay, but then who's coming into our country?
How differently do they feel about all of these things?
And then if you poll them, they don't feel that differently.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Like, there's no room for dissent.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
So people that are somewhat radicalized in that religion that are coming into America are supposed to be greeted with open arms.
And it's not compassionate.
And it's terrible if you suggest that we shouldn't take all of those people because they may not assimilate as easily as people from European nations.
You're called a racist, a Nazi, and whatever.
But if you want to go to one of those countries that is luxurious, nice, you know, then you're attacked because you, your morality, I have to, in order to perform in Saudi Arabia, I'm supposed to agree with everything they do.
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, there's no logic in a lot of the thinking.
I mean, it's silly.
But what they're doing with allowing mass migration in the UK, you see it in England and Ireland.
And it's really weird.
Because where does this end up?
Because it seems like it ends up with some places that have Sharia law.
Yes.
Especially when you consider how many babies they're having versus how many babies the English people.
I mean, they're openly talking about it.
We're going to outbreed you.
tim dillon
This is why when people talk about this issue, they often use the example of Western countries not reproducing enough, not replicating their population.
And they go, well, there's going to be a crisis because people are not having enough children.
So immigration is needed to sustain the population.
What they never talk about is why people aren't having enough children.
And a lot of it is because economically, they feel like they cannot afford to.
Culturally, there have been policies that have, you know, focused on things outside of the family.
We haven't had a ton of like pro-family policies in Western countries.
joe rogan
There's a little bit of that, but then there's also the issue that a lot of people have careers and they're trying to wait.
Okay.
So if you're a woman and you're in your 30s and you've decided you want to have a family and you're 35, 36.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
As you get older, the odds of you getting pregnant drop pretty radically.
tim dillon
Well, but this is part of the, I think, part of the problem in Western societies is we've told women that being a mother is not as fulfilling as working in a Fortune 500 company.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
And I don't know any women that are mothers that regret it or are unhappy.
Most of the happiest people I know are women with children.
Truly.
joe rogan
They're very happy if that's what they want.
And they're very miserable.
That's not the same thing.
tim dillon
I'm not saying they should have children, but there's a lot of people.
You know, when you meet a young couple with children, I've never met happier people personally than that.
joe rogan
No, that's true.
As long as they're getting along and as long as the woman actually wanted to have children.
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
But there's a lot of women that are like, there was this lady that I knew back in California that it was really sad.
She was like super career-oriented, and she had a child that was friends with my child.
And she was never home.
I mean, she would get home at like 7.30, 8 o'clock at night.
She worked in a high-profile business and was there all day long.
And when she came home, she was exhausted and short-tempered.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It was not good.
Like, it was not good.
And the kid was miserable.
tim dillon
And the kid was upset.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it was a lady that tried to have a kid later in life.
She was a career woman, you know, and she had, like I said, high-profile job, very important job.
And the kid was a distraction.
tim dillon
I'm not saying that women aren't capable of having jobs or there's many women that are amazing in the corporate world.
But I am saying that like when you completely, you know, center a culture around ideas outside of family, career, money, status, and you build a structure around all of those other things.
And you go, well, maybe we'll have one kid to have a bigger house or maybe we'll have one kid to live in a better neighborhood.
And you start going, well, wait a minute.
What is the purpose of this?
And a lot of that seems to be somewhat by design.
And then other cultures come in that do value family and having lots of children.
They are going to outnumber you pretty quickly.
And their values will become the values of the larger society.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's true.
The other thing that's going on, too, is that from the 60s, 70s, and then when I was a child, you could sustain a family on one income.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
Today, that's virtually impossible if you're making $50,000 a year, $60,000.
It's really hard.
It's really hard to get by.
And if you have a wife and a family and you have bills and a car and maybe two cars, it's fucking rough.
And Dave Smith talked about that.
Thank the people who brought us into wars.
It costs trillions of fucking dollars.
tim dillon
Well, not only that, you know, I was talking to my aunt about immigration, who I like, and she, you know, was basically going, I said, you know, I think you also have to pause legal immigration for a minute.
And she goes, well, then who's going to be your doctor?
Because she has an Indian doctor.
Oh, boy.
And I said, well, wait a minute.
I said, hold on.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
tim dillon
That's what she said.
She goes, well, who's going to be your doctor?
It's a boomerang sitting at my house in Southampton, you know, going, well, who's going to be your doctor?
And I go, why are we not training American children to be doctors in America?
joe rogan
What'd she say to that?
tim dillon
She goes, well, no one does their homework.
I was a teacher for 30 years and I know that no one does their homework.
And I go, do you think it's possible that nobody does their homework?
Because we need two incomes to run a house and kids are left to play video games by themselves and they're not being parented.
You know?
So I think this idea of like, we're importing doctors.
You know what I mean?
Because this whole idea is like, oh, these are jobs Americans won't do.
And then they're like, well, it's agriculture and stuff.
And it's like, okay, you can understand some of that.
But then you're like, wait a minute.
Are you saying Americans don't want to be doctors?
That's crazy.
They don't want to work in hotels or restaurants.
Then you start going, well, what jobs can Americans do?
I mean, Mark Andreessen came out.
And I don't know if you have the quote, Jamie, but like Mark Andreessen literally was talking about, and I don't have a problem with Mark Andreessen per se.
I think this statement was silly.
He said, oh, yeah, after AI takes over, like one of the only jobs that's going to be okay, I swear to God, he said this, is venture capital.
He goes, that'll be okay because we'll still need to make judgments about what's a worthy investment strategy.
joe rogan
How convenient that his job is saved.
tim dillon
Well, this is the whole thing.
Right.
Yeah, right there.
Mark Andreessen says one job is mostly saved from AI venture capital.
It's just funny to me that this is the direction.
If immigrants were taking the jobs of Hollywood screenwriters, they would not be celebrating it.
If immigrants were taking the job of people at white shoe law firms, they would not be celebrating it.
If they were taking the job of investment bankers, they would not be celebrating it.
It's very obvious.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
It's not anything wrong with the immigrants who come here.
Obviously, I would come here too to take someone's job because I'd want to survive.
joe rogan
It's just a weird argument, like who's going to be your doctor?
That's a really weird argument.
And it's kind of, I mean, no disrespect to your aunt.
tim dillon
Let's do it.
joe rogan
Kind of racist.
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tim dillon
It's very racist against whites.
joe rogan
It is.
It's also weird.
You know, it's a weird argument because it's like all human beings of all nationalities and races can do basically every job.
There's people that do it all over the world.
The idea that you need hopefully true.
tim dillon
But yes.
No, I'm kidding.
Yes.
joe rogan
The most racist is like, who's going to clean your toilet?
Like, we've seen it.
tim dillon
Well, that was Kelly Osborne on the view.
unidentified
She's like, Mr. Trump, who's going to eat your shit?
If you don't have immigrants here, who's going to eat your shit when you shit in a toilet?
joe rogan
By the way, is she in the witness protection program?
Because she looks like a totally different human being now.
tim dillon
I don't know what they did.
They popped her on somebody's amps and they threw her in the shed.
joe rogan
Have you seen the new alien show that's on?
tim dillon
I haven't.
joe rogan
It's really good.
It's an alien show.
But one of the things they do is they take like a dying person and they download their consciousness into like a symbiotic organism.
tim dillon
And is this fake or is it real?
Like, are they a real dying person?
Well, it's a fictional thing.
joe rogan
It's a fictional alien the movie.
tim dillon
Gotcha.
joe rogan
Whitley Scott alien.
tim dillon
Gotcha.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Okay.
And I wonder if that happened to her.
tim dillon
Well, for sure.
joe rogan
Because otherwise, like, how does she look?
tim dillon
That's the problem.
You want to defend Hollywood people sometimes against the QAnon stuff.
And then you look at them and you're like, oh, God, can you make it easier for me to say you're not a clone?
I mean, these young girls, they're 23 years old and they have so much plastic surgery, they look like they're 47.
joe rogan
It's nuts.
It's quote-unquote already, and they're in their 20s.
tim dillon
And then all the QAnon people are like, it's because they're not getting enough of the whatever, you know, adrenochrome.
And you're like, no, that's not it.
And then you look at their faces, you go, oh, shit.
Maybe it is it.
joe rogan
I mean, show me a photo of, she looks great.
I should say this.
tim dillon
Of course.
joe rogan
I'm just joking around.
I'm sure.
tim dillon
Kidding.
joe rogan
She hasn't been downloaded into a new body.
tim dillon
Not yet.
joe rogan
But if I had her on the podcast, like if someone said, you want Kelly Osborne to be on the podcast?
And I said, sure.
And she showed up.
I'm like, who the fuck are you?
tim dillon
Yeah, it's a fully new head.
She has a new head.
joe rogan
Like, that's kind of crazy.
tim dillon
She just got a new head.
joe rogan
That's kind of crazy.
The left one, I'm like, the left one is a lesbian.
Yeah.
tim dillon
And the right one is hot and kind of seems to be Asian.
joe rogan
Go to the other one, the last one that you showed up.
The one, those, yeah, that one.
That's kind of.
tim dillon
Can you go to 2003 and 2025?
That's my favorite one right there.
joe rogan
Oh, right below the camera.
tim dillon
Please go to that one.
joe rogan
That one.
Okay.
unidentified
Okay.
tim dillon
So the left is me.
And then the right.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That seems so crazy.
Like, that is a totally different human.
She has a completely different face.
Like, it shows structure.
What did they do to her jaw?
tim dillon
Well, they do all of this stuff now.
They break the bones in your face and then they shave them.
But I think that's nice.
I think that's nice that people can get a new head or if they want, because many people struggle with the same head their entire life.
joe rogan
That's true.
tim dillon
But if you're a multi-millionaire and you're in Hollywood and you want another head.
joe rogan
God, that's so crazy.
She looks great.
She looks great.
It's the opposite of what we used to see with plastic surgery when people got into their 40s, like in the 90s.
tim dillon
You're getting good.
joe rogan
They'd get the weird giant mouth where it looks like they're about to eat someone's whole head.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where their mouth goes all the way up to their ears because they've been pulling their face back.
tim dillon
They've done a really, really good job at inventing another physical form that you can inhabit.
It's great.
It's never creepy.
joe rogan
It's never been done before to this extent.
tim dillon
No way.
joe rogan
Because look at the Kardashian lady.
What's her name?
tim dillon
Chris.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
She keeps getting younger.
joe rogan
Bro.
tim dillon
It's sick.
joe rogan
Her new face is great.
It's banana.
tim dillon
It's my favorite of her heads.
joe rogan
And we're just talking about this now, knowing that that's the original head that's been altered.
tim dillon
Correct.
joe rogan
When are we going to be talking about completely actually new heads?
tim dillon
Her second head wasn't as good.
joe rogan
No.
tim dillon
No, her third head is the head.
joe rogan
The new head is bananas.
tim dillon
This is my favorite of her head.
joe rogan
Okay.
She's like 80 years old on the left, and on the right, she's 37.
tim dillon
This woman.
joe rogan
Even her neck looks great.
tim dillon
They figured it out.
They got it right.
Crazy.
Now, here's what happens, though.
There's a movie called Death Becomes Her.
This was a famous movie.
joe rogan
Look at that picture right there, Before and After.
One that was Before and After.
One in the middle of the screen, Jamie.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right to the right.
Middle screen.
To the right.
To the right.
No, that one right there.
Click on that one.
Yeah.
That's nuts.
tim dillon
It's amazing.
joe rogan
That's Kim Kardashian.
That's her mom, but that's Kim, right?
Like, that's crazy.
If you told me that was Kim Kardashian, I was like, oh, I like her with the short hair and she looks beautiful.
tim dillon
There's got to be.
Nuts.
But here's my question for this.
There has to be a...
Doesn't there have to be a downside?
Yeah.
Maybe not.
joe rogan
Listen, you're talking to a guy who's had two reconstructed knees.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So surgery is awesome to me.
tim dillon
I agree with you.
joe rogan
Like, if I would be a cripple if I lived in the 1800s.
tim dillon
I'm wondering if...
joe rogan
What's the downside?
tim dillon
Some of this might.
Couldn't, it couldn't possibly her face.
joe rogan
She looks better.
tim dillon
I agree with you.
joe rogan
Looks better than her daughter.
tim dillon
But those BBLs explode.
joe rogan
Well, that's not a good thing.
tim dillon
So, you hated her face one day.
joe rogan
No.
tim dillon
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, because they're just removing tissue and they're tightening it up and they've probably got some techniques with like laser resurfacing.
tim dillon
I'm into it.
joe rogan
With laser resurfacing, I don't know if you've ever seen some of that.
It's so scary what they look like right after they do it.
You're basically burning off the upper dermis.
You're burning off like, you know, whatever, how much of a percentage of a millimeter.
Yeah.
And then your whole face becomes a mask that gets removed.
It's like the skin gets cooked off and then you peel it.
Like, you see them, and it looks like they got torched by a fucking...
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It looks like SpaceX.
They got underneath it.
tim dillon
They got underneath it.
joe rogan
They took it in the face.
tim dillon
Something I worry a little bit about a society where people keep chasing youth.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
My grandfather, my grandmother, old people, wrinkles, wisdom.
You know, my grandmother was not running around trying to look like her daughter.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
I worry a little bit about, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with cosmetic surgery and people should look as good as they want.
I worry a little bit spiritually, slightly, about where this leads.
joe rogan
That's a good worry.
tim dillon
That's all.
No, that's legitimate.
And I am saying this as someone who likes her new look.
Yes.
I think she looks good, and I would not tell her to not do it.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
I'm just wondering, if someone's 90 and they look 30, I'm a little curious.
I guess we're just heading towards everlasting life on Earth.
joe rogan
Well, it depends on what your first cell is.
So if you're a person that focuses on expanding your consciousness and you're constantly reading and you're absorbing new, and you just want to have more energy and be youthful, that's great.
But if the whole thing you're chasing is, I want people to want to fuck me, that gets weird.
tim dillon
Well, not only that, but of course that, but also to me, there's something strange about the denial of death.
The denial of that life is finite in a physical form.
And the idea that you are going to live forever, to me, feels there's got to be some examination of that.
Part of this feels like that a little bit.
joe rogan
There's a little bit of that.
tim dillon
Some of these people are trying to live forever, and I'm wondering about that.
joe rogan
Well, they certainly want to stay younger for a lot longer than anybody ever has before.
And then you get into the weird realm of a lot of these people that want to do something to the body where it becomes immortal.
unidentified
Right?
tim dillon
Right.
And that's very interesting to me.
And I. Transhumanism.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
And that to me is a little scary.
I don't understand.
I'm not smart enough to understand it.
And I worry about it from many angles.
joe rogan
Well, it gets weird when it's really rich people.
tim dillon
Right.
Right?
joe rogan
Because when it's really young people and you're like, you want to stay young forever.
So you're 23 and you're getting Botox.
Oh, you poor kid.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You're just delusional.
You don't know what you're doing.
You're fucking up.
But when you want to stay alive forever and you continue to amass insane amounts of wealth, that's where it gets weird.
Like you don't want to quit the game.
Like you're in this, you know, having incredible financial influence over the world game.
You're worth $80 billion, $200 billion, and you want to keep that ball rolling.
tim dillon
That to me is a little scary.
joe rogan
Well, it's scary because if the game continues, like let's look at, like look at Bezos, for example.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right.
Like let's imagine that Amazon continues to expand and grow.
Bezos continues to profit off of it.
And right now he's like, what is he, like 58 or 59 or something like that?
tim dillon
About that, probably.
joe rogan
Well, what would he be when he's 120?
Would he have $30 trillion?
You know what I mean?
tim dillon
A lot more than he does now.
joe rogan
And would that...
tim dillon
And his power would grow.
joe rogan
And if people started encroaching on that power and trying to limit it and trying to, you know, that's where it gets weird.
They get defensive, right?
If people want to tax the rich, eat the rich.
They get a little, and they're like, okay, I got to fucking build thicker walls.
tim dillon
Get the bunkers.
joe rogan
Yeah, I got to do something.
Well, they just have to create, work with the government to create some laws.
tim dillon
The World Economic Forum, Klaus Schwab just said, and I think it was Klaus Schwab, not Larry Fink, the Blackstone guy or BlackRock, who's now the interim president or whatever.
joe rogan
Thank God.
tim dillon
Thank God.
Someone who understands the issues.
But Klaus Schwab is basically like, I believe we're heading towards stakeholder capitalism.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Which is people, private individuals that have a, it's a public-private partnership where you have guys like Bill Gates, Elon Bezos, whoever, people at that level, that have a large stake in a public-private partnership that's running society.
And I think that scares people a little bit, or it's a curiosity because you start going, and it's always kind of been the case.
I mean, J.P. Morgan bailed the federal government out years ago.
Like these guys have always had a ton of power, but with tech, the level of power in terms of surveillance and data mining and the power over your life has never been as Orwellian as it is now.
And even with AI and all of these models, it's even going to get more intrusive.
So I think it's not only these great fortunes, but it's their capability to literally be gods, to literally know what you're thinking, what you fear, what you want, your desires, all of these things, having all your data, knowing everything you do, knowing how fast your heart is beating.
You know, all these wearable things that you have that are transmitting frequencies to, you know, someplace where all of your health data is being stored.
That's what bothers a lot of people.
It's what bothers people about this Palantir thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, we were talking about that yesterday.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
The Palantir thing is very odd.
tim dillon
A lot of people feel that this is the precursor to a social credit score, a digital kind of police state, and that it's being done under the guise of security, that you will be safer.
joe rogan
Which is what the Patriot Act was brought through.
tim dillon
That's exactly right.
joe rogan
It's always the case.
It's always the case.
They always sneak it in like, you got to be safe.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then you get the Benjamin Franklin quote.
tim dillon
The people that want security.
Right.
They, they, they, something about they deserve neither.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
The trade liberty for security deserve neither.
Yeah.
I mean, it's true.
I just think, you know, you know, Peter Thiel is giving a four-part lecture on the Antichrist.
joe rogan
Yeah, that seems odd.
tim dillon
Four part.
Well, here's what's really wild to me.
Four parts.
It's not just one.
One lecture on the Antichrist would be insane.
This guy's doing a series.
He's doing a four-part lecture on the Antichrist.
And nobody in his inner orbit went, Peter, how about one lecture on the Antichrist or no lectures?
Not four.
joe rogan
Well, I don't think he understands the optics.
tim dillon
He certainly does not.
Yeah.
It's odd.
Yeah.
kareem rahma
Tickets sold out.
tim dillon
Well, of course.
joe rogan
Well, it's a private.
It's a private lecture at a club in San Francisco about the Antichrist.
What does he know about the Antichrist?
Is he like...
I'm guessing a lot.
If you told me there was a movie and there was a guy who played the Antichrist, zoom in on that image of him?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I would say, oh, is that him?
Was that the Antichrist?
tim dillon
This is like me doing a four-part lecture on Long Island racism.
Just to show everybody, you know, how much I know about it and how scary it is and how we got to watch out for it.
But it's totally not me or anyone I know.
It's no one that's ever been in my backyard, but those others, he's just kind of, you know, leaning in, I guess.
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joe rogan
Well, I just don't understand why.
Someone saw it.
Someone saw one of the lectures that he did on the Antichrist.
Was it good?
It might have been Duncan.
He said it was boring.
tim dillon
It's of course going to be boring.
joe rogan
But I don't understand.
Like, what is he doing?
tim dillon
He's trying to prove he's not the Antichrist.
joe rogan
By talking, by rapping.
tim dillon
By doing it.
He's like, if I was the anti- I mean, that's probably how the lecture starts.
He goes, now if I was the Antichrist, I obviously wouldn't be doing this lecture.
joe rogan
You know what it's like?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like those really shitty men that become male feminists.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And then they tweet, believe all women.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're like, hey, hey, hey, hey.
Yeah.
I know you.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
You're a piece of shit.
tim dillon
Didn't O.J. Simpson write a book called If I Did It?
joe rogan
Yeah, I have a copy of it.
tim dillon
So this is Peter Thiel's version of that.
His lecture on the Antichrist is If I Did It.
joe rogan
I think my wife threw it out.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Yes.
She's known to do things like that.
tim dillon
I get it.
As a woman, you would see it and go, he doesn't need this.
joe rogan
She thinks it's for because I go, somebody gave it to me for fun.
It's signed.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It was a signed copy.
tim dillon
Amazing.
joe rogan
And sometimes she will throw things like that out if they're not, if they gather dust for a little too long.
tim dillon
I understand.
joe rogan
I don't take a, I don't lock it in my office.
tim dillon
If I did it, it's laying on the kitchen counter.
joe rogan
But I had a copy of it.
I didn't even open it.
tim dillon
It's so strange.
joe rogan
I did open it.
I opened it a little bit and I was like, what?
tim dillon
It's so strange to have this.
You build military AI, military drone, autonomous drone technology to export to war zones all over the world.
You build domestic surveillance technology to surveil our friends and neighbors.
And then your other pet passion is the Antichrist.
It's odd.
Wouldn't you include tennis?
Wouldn't you go, and I'm big into tennis.
unidentified
Something else.
tim dillon
It's odd.
And I like ice fishing.
I build autonomous drone technology.
I build domestic surveillance technology.
joe rogan
And I love lake trout.
tim dillon
And I love lake trout.
And I love big mouth bass fishing.
But instead, he goes, and I've also developed quite a keen interest in Satan.
And I'd love to talk to everyone about it for four fucking things in San Francisco.
Four things in San Francisco.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Seems a bit much.
joe rogan
What's Whitney Webb's take on this?
tim dillon
I bet it's she's probably, I mean, Whitney's research is so unbelievable.
joe rogan
Oh, but by the way, I should say, before I go any further, Whitney Webb has some strange conspiracy that she believes someone's trying to keep her from being on my show.
tim dillon
Interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah, Whitney, I'll have you on the show.
I just haven't reached out because I have thousands of people to go through.
That's busy.
I would definitely do it, though.
tim dillon
We've got a bunch.
joe rogan
The idea that I wouldn't do it is incorrect, and I apologize.
tim dillon
Enormously autistic.
Well, there's a lot of this.
She talks like this a lot, and she's just the pentameter of her voice is very like this.
joe rogan
And she goes, she knows a lot.
tim dillon
She knows a lot about things.
She goes, Jeffrey Epstein, on the third day in January, 1996, he met with this guy.
But she's.
joe rogan
With no notes.
No notes.
She's off the top of the head.
tim dillon
But she's really enormously amazing at research.
She's an amazing researcher.
She has compiled the data.
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, no.
She definitely has.
And how do they kill all those people in Germany?
Nobody's whacked her yet.
tim dillon
She's somewhere in South America, I think.
joe rogan
Good move.
tim dillon
Yeah, smart.
joe rogan
Yeah, I guess.
Yeah.
But, I mean, how much resources does she have to protect herself down here?
tim dillon
One of the reasons I think people like her end up being safe is she writes these very big, very studious books that no one in America reads.
joe rogan
That's it.
Where no one, it's not a threat.
tim dillon
It's not a threat.
joe rogan
It doesn't go mainstream.
tim dillon
It's not a threat.
Now, these big Hollywood types that go, I'm going to blow the whistle on whatever the hell's going on.
They go, bye-bye.
You know what I mean?
Or a mainstream journalist who's like, I'm going to write an article about something and, you know, it's going to lead to a congressional investigation.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
They go, bye-bye.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's when you actually create problems, not when you're just a part of the right-wing conspiracy ecosphere.
tim dillon
Yeah, because they can just dismiss you as a crank and then you've written volumes of this book and no one cares.
And by the way, I'm not saying it's not a great book.
I'm saying it's not moving the needle for them.
If you have a hard drive with something on it, USB, if somebody gives you, you know, if you have something that could put them in jail, you're dead.
joe rogan
So how is Anthony Weiner still alive?
tim dillon
Anthony Wiener's still alive because I believe there's two possibilities.
Number one, there's a dead man switch somewhere, meaning that there's something somewhere.
joe rogan
You know the story about his laptop with the cops that saw it.
tim dillon
And supposedly they're all dead?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
A bunch of them.
tim dillon
Crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
How many cops are dead?
Google that.
But the other thing is that they said what they saw was so horrific.
tim dillon
Then that's they, yeah.
joe rogan
Like some of them took their own lives.
tim dillon
Well, that's crazy.
Whenever there's so many suicides, I start to get a little, I'm like, wait a minute, hold on.
What happened here?
joe rogan
Also, did you ever see him on Patrick Beck Davids when he starts bringing up the Clinton body count?
Yeah, and that's super defensive.
jamie vernon
Well, it's very obvious that not true?
I don't know.
joe rogan
Okay.
Brock's claim that nine of the 12 NYPD officers who viewed Anthony Weiner's laptop subsequently died by suicide has been widely circulated, but it lacks substantiation with concrete evidence linking these officers directly to Weiner's laptop.
Here's the details based on available information.
Joseph Calabresi, by the way, that guy's on the take.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
No.
tim dillon
Hey, Joseph wants a case.
joe rogan
Joseph Calabresi.
He sounds like a great chef.
NYPD detective allegedly involved in Anthony Wiener investigation was found dead from an apartment self-inflicted gunshot wound, which unfortunately a lot of cops ended up taking their own lives.
A lot of PTSD.
It's a fucking horrible job.
However, there's no direct evidence linking him to viewing the laptop's contents.
Okay.
Stephen Silks, deputy chief of NYPD, reportedly involved with the laptop investigation, was found dead in an apparent suicide like Calabresi.
No evidence confirms his involvement.
It doesn't mean he wasn't involved.
Viewing the specific incriminating files on Weiner's laptop.
Other officers, various reports mention a total of nine NYPD officers who committed suicide in 2019, but no official sources or credible reports explicitly connect these suicides to viewing Wiener's laptop.
tim dillon
How could they?
This is one of those non-denial denials.
You would have to know somebody in the police force.
By the way.
joe rogan
But it also could be bullshit.
tim dillon
It could absolutely be bullshit.
But I have zero problem believing that Anthony Weiner had a laptop with some very bad things on it.
joe rogan
Well, for sure, he was involved.
Look, he was, they were grooming that guy to be some huge politician.
Absolutely.
And then somehow or another, he's sending his dick pictures to young people.
tim dillon
There's definitely, and it's been exposed, I think, by the Epstein thing.
There's an entire ecosystem of depravity amongst the ruling elites that people go to great lengths to cover up.
This is obvious.
joe rogan
And always has.
tim dillon
And always has forever and ever and ever.
And it would be absolutely plausible to me that people have died to cover this stuff up, as John Luke Burnell, Jeffrey Epstein, many others.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Maybe Virginia Jeffrey.
I don't know.
But like, there's tons of questionable deaths linked to the Epstein thing.
And by the way, linked to things like the Franklin scandal that happened many years ago.
All of the Gary Carradori was an investigator who supposedly had proof of politicians abusing children.
Plane goes down with this kid.
joe rogan
Whitewater.
tim dillon
Whitewater.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Suspicious deaths.
joe rogan
Vince Foster.
tim dillon
Very suspicious death.
joe rogan
I read that book, The Strange Death of Vince Foster.
tim dillon
Very odd.
joe rogan
In the 90s or whenever it was that I got a copy of that.
Bill Clinton was banana.
tim dillon
He was the governor of Arkansas when they were running drugs out of MENA, Arkansas to fund the Contras.
joe rogan
Gary Seals.
Absolutely.
tim dillon
Bill Clinton was the governor of that state.
Bill Clinton reads a book called, it's a famous book by Carol Quigley, I believe called Tragedy and Hope.
And it's a history of the whatever, the 20th century or something.
It's this compendium.
It's Bill Clinton's favorite author.
He reads this book and he's, you know, attends the Bohemian Grove.
He's selected by very wealthy, powerful people to then become a party elder and a leader.
And many people believe myself is that in order to be selected by that group of people to run for the highest office in the land, they have something on you.
You're to some degree compromised.
You've shown willingness to play the game.
You've looked the other way, at the very least.
Maybe you've engaged.
But at the very least, if somebody goes, something's going on in Mina, Arkansas, you go, don't have time for it.
And you've shown the willingness to play the game.
joe rogan
Yes.
tim dillon
And so he's the governor of the very small state that isn't, you know, Arkansas is a beautiful state and there's whatever.
But he's not, you know, he's not like running a huge state.
He's not, you know, a well-known politician.
He's a very, he's a very charismatic, very great speaker, great politician, but from a very small state.
He's then elevated very quickly to the standard bearer of the Democratic Party after tons of allegations about inappropriate behavior with women, credible allegations of rape from Juanita Broderick, you know, being the governor during that whole MENA, Arkansas thing.
You know, he's, it's well known that there are skeletons in the closet.
joe rogan
It's a good guy that's going to play the game for you.
tim dillon
Yeah, and he knows and he's going to play the game.
And his wife is going to play the game.
joe rogan
But doesn't it go all the way back to college?
Like, think about like skull and bones and all these different things.
Like, if you want to be a part of these clubs and little secret societies and organizations, you got to do some weird shit.
You got to suck someone's dick.
You got to, you know, they got to put a wine bottle up your ass and take a picture of it.
There's got to be something that's going to be.
tim dillon
There's got to be some.
I think back then there was a ton of that.
And I think now there's probably still a lot of that.
But I think also now what they do with people in addition to those things is they just have the ability with technology to know kind of what you're doing.
joe rogan
Now it's off the charts.
tim dillon
Now it's off the charts.
Now it's like, now they've got you dead to rights on a lot of shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you're doing something fucked up, they know.
tim dillon
They know.
They know.
joe rogan
And then they're holding on to those cards.
tim dillon
Because back then, you're right.
It was almost quaint back then.
They were like, come to the tomb, show everybody your dick or whatever.
joe rogan
Jerk off the coffee.
tim dillon
Let Bob pee in your mouth.
Now it's gotten to the point where they like, they have you and know what you're doing.
You're on the grid and you've been on the grid for your whole life, by the way.
Now kids growing up, young people growing up, have been on the grid their entire life.
joe rogan
The whole life.
Everything is out there.
tim dillon
Now people are going, please, Bob, pee in my mouth.
Like, just let me have that one night.
I'm now surveilled no matter what you're doing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
I mean, you know, that's the thing that a lot of people talk about.
D.C. is this hotbed of like everyone in Congress and a lot of people, you know, in the Senate, Congress, White House, whatever.
They're all mixed up in these weird shenanigans.
joe rogan
Well, didn't you just have Marjorie Taylor?
tim dillon
We're having her on soon.
Yeah, it's coming out soon.
joe rogan
We're having her on soon.
tim dillon
She talks about that a lot.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, do you remember the D.C. Madam case?
tim dillon
They got rid of her, Deborah Jean Palfrey.
joe rogan
What happened to her?
unidentified
Dead.
joe rogan
How inconvenient.
tim dillon
So sad.
Unfortunate.
joe rogan
Super unfortunate that a lot of people.
Unfortunate who was bringing prostitutes to all these powerful people wound up dying after she said that she was going to reveal who was on the list.
tim dillon
But that, again, is the now think about that.
And Epstein is that times 100 because now it's international.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Now you have leaders of all, like we've got our congressmen, senators.
joe rogan
Well, you went from millionaires to billionaires.
tim dillon
Millionaires to billionaires.
joe rogan
That's the difference.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
The congressman.
I mean, even Nancy Pelosi, that pauper.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
What?
She's worth a paltry 400 million.
unidentified
She's nothing.
tim dillon
In the grand scheme of things, she's nothing.
She's just an ordinary crook.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
And respect to her and her husband for all his returns.
54% or whatever.
joe rogan
More.
tim dillon
Killing it.
joe rogan
Pretty amazing.
tim dillon
Killing it.
joe rogan
I mean, that's why.
tim dillon
Why marry that old witch if you can't get your beak wet?
joe rogan
Because she's got some big Yabos.
tim dillon
But do you know what I mean?
She does have big Yabos.
But she's another one.
Why don't they give her a head?
She's got that money.
joe rogan
She's a new head.
unidentified
Get a head.
joe rogan
Well, I think she doesn't want to do it now because she doesn't want people to not recognize her.
tim dillon
That's true.
joe rogan
Because if you're Chris Kardashian and you're wandering around now, you would not know her.
tim dillon
If I saw her in Beverly Hills, I would not know who that is.
joe rogan
Kelly Osborne, who's that?
tim dillon
Who knows?
joe rogan
That's not the lady from that show that I used to watch when I was a kid.
tim dillon
No, it's completely a different person.
joe rogan
Yeah.
She's hot now.
tim dillon
Is there a possibility there's a Jeffrey Epstein walking around that we don't know who it is?
joe rogan
Is it possible that Jeffrey Epstein didn't die in his cell?
tim dillon
And that's I was told by someone who, and this is probably ridiculous, but they say there is a possibility that Epstein is, you know, Les Wexner's got that big house in Ohio.
He's there.
Somebody said it's a possibility, a tiny one, that he's living at Les Wexner's house in Ohio.
joe rogan
If that was true, there would be like a service that delivers masseuses.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's no way that guy's stopping.
tim dillon
They'll shut their shit.
Here's the other thing.
They'll shut their mouth.
Because it's very easy.
There's obviously the abuse is horrific, but I guarantee there are people that would still shut their mouth.
unidentified
Yes.
tim dillon
You could find them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
You could find them.
joe rogan
Well, I think that's the whole idea behind this.
And this is what Eric Weinstein said to me.
He said, I believe that there are people that curate experiences for people that are very high profile and very wealthy.
tim dillon
That's right, which I'll be doing in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
And Abu Dhabi the night before.
Get your tickets now, Joe.
joe rogan
Abu Dhabi the night before.
tim dillon
The night before to warm up.
October, I'll be in October, Abu Dhabi, October 6th, and then Riyadh, October 8th, and October 7th, a day of rest and remembrance.
unidentified
Wow.
tim dillon
What are you going to do?
What are you going to do?
joe rogan
Bring in security or Tel Aviv?
tim dillon
Pay me.
Supposedly, MBS is a fan of mine.
I don't know if that's true, but Sam Murrill told me, and Sam Murrill's not a liar.
joe rogan
Well, why did you have a fan?
You're talking shit about all the people he hates.
tim dillon
Well, I have fun.
I think MBS has fun.
I have a fun life.
I don't apologize.
I think we have a good time on this planet.
We're here for we don't hurt other people.
We don't do anything wrong.
I don't know what he's doing.
Perhaps he's hurt others.
I wasn't in the room.
And I think that, you know, I think I believe in luxury as a concept.
They want the Middle East to be a little more progressive.
They want it to be luxurious.
joe rogan
Women could drive now.
tim dillon
Women are driving.
Listen.
Listen, if we don't want the gays going off the roof, obviously, I don't want to be thrown off a roof.
But we also, do we need them with the purple hair and the 15 genders?
No, let's stop somewhere in the middle.
Maybe we stop somewhere in the middle.
joe rogan
So maybe he's just like an agent of change.
tim dillon
That's what I'm going with.
He's perhaps an agent of change.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
I don't think it, you know, I mean, listen, there were comics who went to perform in Israel that got stuck there because of the Iran-Israel war and they had to get out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
I didn't go, how dare you perform there?
unidentified
You know?
tim dillon
You went to Israel to perform.
Okay.
joe rogan
Well, in Israel right now, where they went to perform, Tel Aviv, there's massive protests on the street about what's happening in Gaza.
In Israel.
unidentified
Yes.
tim dillon
That's right.
unidentified
Israel protests.
tim dillon
People are sick of it.
They've had a lot of people.
Half a million people.
joe rogan
Half a million people in Tel Aviv.
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
On the streets.
tim dillon
Yeah.
I mean, they want Netanyahu.
I think a lot of people have started to, they are seeing the grift here.
Netanyahu is keeping, he wants this war to go on for decades.
joe rogan
Well, he's been running that country for how long now?
tim dillon
He's been running it a long time.
They haven't had elections in a while.
He's got this, you know, war, this crisis government or whatever they've compiled.
You know, I mean, I think it's time to, a lot of people are going enough is enough.
joe rogan
Well, thank God the Nilk Boys got to the bottom of everything.
tim dillon
They got to the bottom of it, and you know, it was a brilliant.
I didn't know how he felt about Burger King.
I never knew.
And now I do.
Well, listen, we have these shows.
Everybody has a platform.
Everybody wants to be on these shows.
And everybody has a line of bullshit.
We know it's the way it is.
joe rogan
Yes.
tim dillon
It's the way it is.
It's unavoidable.
You can't avoid it.
People get mad.
You talk to hell.
Yeah.
It's what it is.
You're listening to the thing.
Maybe I do a great job.
Maybe I do an okay job.
Maybe I do a bad job.
I don't know.
But you're the person listening.
You can choose to like it, dislike it.
You can say that guy's full of shit.
You can say, I agree with him there, but I don't agree with him there.
You could say, I distrust this person.
You could say he makes my spidey senses go off.
Those are all available.
You can have any of those thoughts.
joe rogan
And you could also have the thought that you shouldn't be talking to that person.
tim dillon
You could also have the thought that you shouldn't be talking to them.
joe rogan
Yeah, when people have that thought with me.
And that's fair.
Or that I don't push back hard enough.
Or you're allowed to think all those things.
Everybody's allowed to have their own opinions and all that shit.
Everyone's allowed.
But, you know, we're living in the wildest fucking time.
tim dillon
This is the wildest time probably that I can remember.
I'm sure there's other wilder times.
joe rogan
Well, I think this is globally the wildest time ever because there's never been a connection like this with everybody and everything.
tim dillon
A guy who's perpetuating an ethnic cleansing going on the podcast of prank video influencers to discuss Burger King is one of the craziest things I've seen in my life.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But that's also, wasn't there like pre-prepared questions that they had to stick to?
tim dillon
Number one, there were pre-prepared questions.
Number two, Burger King does suck.
joe rogan
Number three, I liked them when I was a kid.
They fell off.
tim dillon
Wendy's fell off.
It was all great.
Wendy's fell off since Wendy's has fallen off so hard.
In the 90s, it was one of the best restaurants in the country.
joe rogan
But don't they still use Fresh, Not Frozen?
Or is that bullshit now?
tim dillon
You know, everybody's full of shit.
I don't know.
It's not good.
It's not the same.
joe rogan
I always thought they were the best.
tim dillon
They were the best.
In the 90s and the early 2000s, they were the best.
joe rogan
When I was coming home from the comedy store, if I was a naughty boy and I wanted to go to Wendy's food and I was like, oh, I got to get something.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm so hungry.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was the move.
If there was a Wendy's and a McDonald's, there's no question.
I'm going to Wendy's.
tim dillon
I think when you start with the pre-programmed questions and it becomes, it's not an interview.
It becomes, because we all know there's interviews, there's good ones, there's bad ones.
There's things you wish you'd asked.
It goes, oh, I should have, blah, blah, blah.
joe rogan
It's a bit of a circus.
tim dillon
It's a circus.
joe rogan
Yeah.
By the way.
tim dillon
And it's a staged publicity op.
joe rogan
I would have done pre-programmed questions with Kamala.
If they had questions, I'm not, I don't have a problem with those.
As long as you give me the, so she's willing to.
tim dillon
Yeah, I'll send you the question.
joe rogan
So these are the questions.
As long as it's pertinent, these are the questions.
tim dillon
You could have given her 30 pre-programmed questions and two months to prepare, and it would have been a mess.
joe rogan
That's my thought.
tim dillon
It would have been a train wreck either way.
joe rogan
It would have been a lot of fun.
tim dillon
This kid from Subway Takes or whatever in New York City, this guy who does these subway interviews, just said we didn't put out the Kamala Harris one.
It was so bad.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
Her literally just come out and said, we didn't want to tank her chances.
It was terrible.
She had this weird answer that made no sense, and we didn't put it out.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
This is that guy.
tim dillon
It's some guy.
I don't know.
Some guy on the sea does a subway thing.
Maybe I'm not saying the right.
Maybe it's not Subway Takes.
I think it is.
I think I'm right.
joe rogan
Here it is.
Creator of Subway Takes 100% disagrees.
The entertainer Kareem Rama discusses Kamala Harris's missed opportunity on his show, Meeting Andrew Cuomo, and why disagreement is more fun.
What does that mean?
TikTok version of the tonight show, wholesome, relatable comedy.
Even if some episodes acknowledge the existence of opioids and dick pics, the premise is exactly what it sounds like.
The host, Kareem Rama, I don't know if I'm saying his name right.
Rama sits on a New York subway and asks, so what's your take?
The guest slings a take.
The internet rocks, for example.
This is dumb.
jamie vernon
We're not going to get to the answer.
It's blocked off with us.
tim dillon
Well, so the whole thing is she went on the show.
He asked her something.
She said something wild.
Her team and him decided this is not good.
joe rogan
Wasn't it like bacon as a spice?
Wasn't that one of them?
tim dillon
She's a psychopath.
joe rogan
Fresh proof that America dodged a Kamala bullet besides her kid gloves treatment.
Oh, they released some of it.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Okay, let's click on that.
jamie vernon
I think it's him talking about it.
tim dillon
I think it's him talking about it.
I don't think they've ever released it.
joe rogan
Well, let me hear that.
Let me hear him say that.
kareem rahma
Her take was really confusing and weird and not good.
So mutually agreed that we shouldn't publish it up.
joe rogan
Kamala Harris.
Whoa.
tim dillon
Yeah.
Odd.
joe rogan
Confusing and weird.
Do you think she's medicated?
tim dillon
I think she throws him back.
joe rogan
But is it just that?
tim dillon
No, she's got a couple feelings.
joe rogan
There's an anti-anxiety element.
tim dillon
No, she's got a couple of Xani bars down at Danielle Gullet.
joe rogan
Okay, so it is.
She reportedly said she'd talk about how she doesn't like to take her shoes off on airplanes.
Okay.
But Rama said that she instead pivoted to a really, really bad take that made no sense.
Bacon is a spice.
tim dillon
That's one of the more coherent things I've heard her say, by the way.
joe rogan
Okay.
tim dillon
It's actually better than most of her.
joe rogan
Whether that was actually her idea or the advice of overpaid consultants.
This is another thing.
That campaign was set.
It had the elements, all the elements.
If I was an investigator, that campaign had all the elements of money laundering.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
You blew $1.5 billion over the course of a few months.
And so much of it went to NGOs.
unidentified
Of course.
joe rogan
Right.
So much of it went to these weird nonprofits that were supposedly going to help your campaign.
And, well, who's at those NGOs?
This is like the LA Fire Fund.
That's right.
It's like, okay, you gave the money to 188 different nonprofits that all have overhead.
What about the people that lost the house?
Isn't there like one guy who could just start cutting checks?
You've got $800 million or whatever you got.
tim dillon
You're paying the salaries of people that work at an organization.
joe rogan
Which is kind of a money laundering operation.
tim dillon
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Especially when you find out that some of these people make upwards of a million dollars a year.
tim dillon
Well, what they're going to do with this LA Fires Land is still up in the air, but they had proposed zoning the Palisades for low-income housing and people threw a big fit.
And I think that they have backed off on that.
I'm unsure.
But I think Newsom is backing off on that because he is now positioning himself to be the Democratic presidential nominee.
He's always been.
But now he's really doing it.
And to his credit, he's having success.
Like, in this moment.
joe rogan
Well, you know, some of the success that they're hanging their hat on is his social media campaign where he talks like Trump.
So he's got a bunch of people from his organization that tweet for him.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
And they tweet like Trump and they're saying this has elevated him in the public's eyes.
That's fucking terrifying.
tim dillon
It's terrifying.
He's starting to learn the internet, you know, sensibility, which is heavily trolling, does very well, you know, all this stuff.
What he has is a terrible record in California.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
And he's done terrible things to people's real lives.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
But he's succeeding on the internet.
joe rogan
So that's enough.
tim dillon
That's enough.
joe rogan
That's the thing.
tim dillon
But that's truly enough.
You don't have to be perfect.
He's having fun on the internet and the state is burned.
And people forget because that was a few months ago.
And people have short memories.
They go, that tweet was fun.
He did a post on Axe.
It was fun.
And it doesn't matter that they let all the criminals out in California and burn everyone's house.
unidentified
You know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's how bad the Democratic Party is right now.
tim dillon
And he's not even the worst of them.
He's bad.
But the people go so much further than him.
The problem with Gavin Newsom is that he's kind of an empty suit who is in the wind will go whichever way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
So in a time like 2020, when everybody is incredibly in the grips of mania and they're like, riding's good, riding's protesting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Defund the police.
tim dillon
Defund the police.
Let's get rid of cops.
Gavin Newsom goes, puts out a bunch of crazy social media posts about the importance of resistance and all this crap and throws his own police force under the bus.
It's insane.
But then when things, the pendulum swings back the other way, Gavin Newsom now becomes a sensible conservative that wants to, or a sensible Democrat that wants to reach out to conservatives.
And, you know, he's like the hollow man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
He just wants to win.
And that might be enough.
joe rogan
It might be enough.
Well, you know, there's not a lot of other options.
This is a thing.
Like, we are now entering into 2026.
Okay.
So we only have four years from 2024 to 2028.
It's really only two years, you know, because everybody has to get accustomed to these people.
They have to be in the public eye.
It's not what someone's going to run for president within the last six months and they're going to win.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
You need someone who's out there for a minimum of 24 months.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
So who else?
We're in 2026, right?
So we have two years left.
unidentified
Trump.
Who?
tim dillon
Yeah, it's him.
It's Gavin.
That's it.
It has to be.
Now, on the right, there's going to be a power struggle, and either Trump will live through his term, let's hope he does, but he's 80, so you never know.
But he's healthy enough right now.
joe rogan
Allegedly healthy enough.
tim dillon
Allegedly healthy enough.
If he lives through his term and he knights somebody, whether it's JD or whoever, that will be the person.
There is a world in which he doesn't knight anyone.
And there is a real power struggle between different factions of that party.
joe rogan
Well, what are the factions?
So you have JD, vice president, who's the obvious.
tim dillon
The obvious.
joe rogan
And then the problem with Ron DeSantis is he wore stilts.
tim dillon
Ron DeSantis has a cop energy.
He has a guy that pulled you over energy.
And you go, was it really 85?
He's a prick.
No one likes him.
Everyone, he offends everyone.
I knew a bunch of, I know a friend who's in finance.
A bunch of hedge fund guys went down to Florida.
This was in like the throes of the campaign.
He ended up insulting all of them.
He's dismissive of people.
He doesn't have it.
The question is, Vance, who's smart, does Vance have it?
There's doubts, real doubts, that if he has it or not.
I like him as a guy.
There's doubts.
I'm not saying he doesn't have it.
joe rogan
What are the doubts?
tim dillon
That he doesn't have it.
He doesn't have the charisma.
He's stiff as a board.
He's a klutz.
He dropped a trophy.
He does not articulate enough.
He doesn't have it.
joe rogan
He's still young.
tim dillon
Sure, but I'm saying these are the doubts.
He's young.
He doesn't have the gravitas.
The wife's maybe not super into it.
joe rogan
I don't know.
tim dillon
These are the doubts.
These are the doubts you got to overcome if you want to win.
joe rogan
All right.
If not him, who else is it?
tim dillon
MTG.
joe rogan
For real?
tim dillon
For real, Z. Heard it here first.
Get on the train now.
joe rogan
You're serious?
unidentified
Get on the train now.
tim dillon
I might be involved.
Get on the train now.
Buy the stock now.
Buy the crypto now.
unidentified
Buy the Ethereum now.
tim dillon
We're launching a coin soon.
joe rogan
The coin is crazy.
tim dillon
Step one is the coin.
Step two is the announcement.
Step three is the campaign.
Step four is her running the country, which I don't think is super important, but the first three are important.
Coin launch, hugely important.
unidentified
You got to do it.
joe rogan
You're getting in the first couple of days.
MTG is coming.
tim dillon
MTG, whether it's her or not, she's surprisingly, weirdly capable.
She's kind of a tough bitch.
She's ran a construction company, all this stuff.
She's going to be able to go out there and say America first, not Israel first.
And Vance might wear.
There's not enough daylight between him and Trump on Israel.
MTG is going to take advantage of that.
That's my guess.
Get on the train.
unidentified
Wow.
tim dillon
But maybe I'm wrong.
But am I?
Has she voiced any she hasn't voiced it yet, but let's be honest.
She's positioning herself.
You can see it.
She's positioning herself to run for president of the United States.
joe rogan
What is the wackiest shit that she's ever said?
tim dillon
I don't know.
Something about the Jews and the weather, but let's be honest.
Who knows what they're doing?
unidentified
These hurricanes come and go?
What's going on?
joe rogan
MTG threatens to say every damn name on the House floor over Jeffrey Epstein clients to us.
tim dillon
This is fun.
Part of being the president now is spectacles.
She gets it.
She sees Trump.
She goes, he put on a goddamn show.
She's putting on a fucking show and a half.
joe rogan
Also, if you're a woman, there's an advantage that you have in that you are not fucking underage people.
tim dillon
No, and she's single.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
She's a single woman.
She's a little wild.
She's not, meaning that you, she's not, she doesn't have a husband who works for BlackRock.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
She's a Lenny Kravitz.
tim dillon
Now, why is AOC shutting her mouth about Israel?
Because AOC's donors are big Israeli tech people.
She's been silenced, and she's trying to run for president, too.
joe rogan
Really?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
She'll struggle.
tim dillon
She's not going to win.
She's a goofball.
She'll be making mojitos.
unidentified
She's a goofball.
tim dillon
She doesn't have it.
She's a goof.
But here's the reality.
She's shutting her mouth about Israel.
Is AOC out there about Israel?
No.
No.
Because she's a fraud.
But the smelly, gross anarcho-communists in Brooklyn, to their credit, know she's a fraud.
They know she's a fraud.
In between their, you know, whatever, open mic nights and whatever, they figured out poetry slams and dog walking.
They figured out that this bitch is a fraud.
Big time.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think she was when she first started.
tim dillon
She wasn't, but she got, she was probably, she's realized she's ambitious.
joe rogan
She likes nice bags.
tim dillon
She likes nice bags.
unidentified
That's what it is.
tim dillon
She's ambitious.
She wants to be the president.
joe rogan
You realize that job can get you hundreds of millions of dollars.
Look at what happened.
tim dillon
Can you get up who her donors are, Jimmy?
These Israeli tech people.
It's kind of interesting because this actually just kind of came out.
You know, this is coming out more and more.
MTG is one of these people that have, now she said some wild stuff.
She wasn't media trained, okay?
She came out.
She made some unfortunate statements about Jewish people and the weather, perhaps.
You know?
joe rogan
Did she do?
I want to know.
tim dillon
She said something about Jewish space lasers.
But Joe, why do the hurricanes always hit the west coast of Florida?
That's where all, they never hit the East Coast.
They don't know what it is.
joe rogan
Well, the water is warmer or something.
tim dillon
So say you.
The point is, whatever.
But is it, or the laser?
joe rogan
The hurricanes never hit the East Coast.
Is that true?
tim dillon
Yes, they hit the West Coast, which is where all the Christians live from the Midwest and Canada.
All the Jewish people on the East Coast don't get hurricanes.
They get a little bit of flooding.
And when Marjorie wins, we're going to get to the bottom of it.
joe rogan
So if you want to buy property, you buy it on the East Coast of Florida?
tim dillon
That's what they're saying.
joe rogan
Is that like Mar-a-Lago?
Is that the East Coast?
tim dillon
Correct.
Ding ding.
joe rogan
Really?
Okay, what does she say?
Marjorie Taylor Greene has offered an amendment to the Israel funding bill to create space lasers.
This is not a parody.
MTG literally wants to appropriate money for a Jewish space laser.
But what does that mean?
She wants to fund space lasers?
tim dillon
I thought she was against it, but now maybe she's for them.
joe rogan
In 2018, it was back then.
It was different times.
tim dillon
It's different times.
joe rogan
She wanted the space laser.
tim dillon
She was asked to do it.
joe rogan
In 2024, it says it.
tim dillon
Now she wants the laser.
unidentified
Because why should they talk about it?
tim dillon
Why should they have space lasers?
We should all have them.
joe rogan
Joy Reid probably believes space lasers are racist.
That's right.
A 2018 post she made theorizing in quotes that Jewish space lasers started wildfires in California.
Now she's saying the United States deserves this type of defense for our southern border.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
I don't think Jewish space lasers did that, but there was a real concern with the wildfires of Ontario.
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
That so many of them started simultaneously over a large distance that it is almost impossible that this was not some sort of a concerted effort to start this fire.
And then there was the question, were they experimenting with some sort of space or satellite-based energy weapon?
How do you know they got away from it?
Because it's conveniently in the middle of the woods.
tim dillon
What about these floods in Texas?
With the cloud seating.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
This is a problem.
joe rogan
Well, they were cloud seeding just a few days before that.
tim dillon
That's a problem.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
That's a problem.
joe rogan
Well, that's also the problem that happened in Abu Dhabi or no, Dubai.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
In Dubai, where they openly admit that they're not.
tim dillon
They're manipulating the weather.
All these people are manipulating the weather.
joe rogan
Where you going in Abu Dhabi?
They do it once a week.
Hopefully you'll get there on a rainy day.
tim dillon
Well, we'll see.
joe rogan
They do it every week.
tim dillon
They manipulate the weather every week?
unidentified
Every week.
tim dillon
Well, good.
joe rogan
Well, it's how you keep everything green, Tim.
tim dillon
Listen, my concern is like my own country, and any country that wants to offer me a large sum of money to go and perform, I will do it.
joe rogan
Coming soon to the Congo.
tim dillon
Yeah, I will absolutely do South Sudan, Darfur, Angola, all of it.
I'll absolutely do South Sudan.
Tim Dylan Live in South Sudan.
Absolutely will do it.
joe rogan
Yo.
tim dillon
Wouldn't you go to Saudi Arabia?
joe rogan
I'm busy.
tim dillon
Yeah, but you're also doing well enough.
joe rogan
Two Israeli startup entrepreneurs played roles in the rise of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
She pulled out of an event commemorating Rabin.
Some concluded that AOC doesn't like Israelis, but two were instrumental in the lawmaker's early career.
That's where it gets weird.
They find you when you're young.
tim dillon
They find you when you're making mojitos.
joe rogan
They find you when you're young and promising like J.D. Brown.
tim dillon
Well, that's the thing.
J.D. is going to have to, if he wants to be the president, he's going to have to say, Peter Thiel, I'm not.
He's going to have to say, Peter Thiel is Satan, and here's why that's good.
J.D. has to get out there and go, wouldn't you rather know who Satan is and be friends with him and have dinner with him than have it be like, who's Satan?
Right.
So he's got to get out there and say, I happen to be friends with Satan.
And I want that to be.
joe rogan
He's misunderstood.
tim dillon
I want it to be destigmatized.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
If Satan could go on the Nelk Boys, maybe they could straighten it out.
tim dillon
That's right.
Peter Thiel on the Nelk Boys, when they go, what do you think about fast food?
And he goes, I only I take one pill every day to survive.
And it gives me all of my nutrients.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Yeah.
I don't think Peter Thiel eats food like a person.
I think it's like he has some type of.
unidentified
What?
tim dillon
You know.
unidentified
What do you think?
tim dillon
I think a lot of these tech people like they don't like food.
They're not food people.
A lot of these tech people.
I went to a few of these tech things in Austin.
It's not the food's never the thing.
They're not like food people.
They're not like, oh, let me eat food.
Like wasps are not either.
Like real old school, like waspy.
joe rogan
Didn't you get invited to have lunch or something and dinner with Peter?
tim dillon
Yes.
I said, no.
joe rogan
Did you?
tim dillon
I said, no.
I'm a little wary of that circle of people.
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
tim dillon
And I'm not saying there's anything inherently evil about them because obviously there's people in there.
I just, I don't know that I want to go to a dinner with someone who's going to talk endlessly about the Antichrist.
joe rogan
But yet you'll go to Saudi Arabia.
tim dillon
Of course.
unidentified
And perform.
joe rogan
Of course.
I've been to Peter's house twice.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I went once with dinner with Eric Weinstein.
I forget who else.
And then the second time he brought me in because they were going to have lunch with Eric Von Daniken.
tim dillon
Oh, the guy, the Chariots of the Gods.
joe rogan
Yes.
tim dillon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And I was like, oh yeah, I'm in.
And I know so much about that.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
So I was asking him all these questions.
tim dillon
I'm sure he's a very nice guy.
Like Peter Thiel.
joe rogan
He's a nice guy.
tim dillon
He's a smart guy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
I don't, again, I get invited to a lot of dinners and a lot of things.
And what I try to do is I try to say to myself, I need to be able to criticize people and make fun of them.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
So, you know, it felt like really weird to go to this guy's house and then shit on him the next day.
joe rogan
Do you think that's part of the strategy of inviting you to go to places?
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Most likely.
But it doesn't work because I can't shut my mouth.
I can't shut my mouth.
I mean, I've said things.
People in my own family get mad at me because I can't shut my mouth.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
So it's certainly not going to work.
If you're a billionaire invites me somewhere, it's not going to work.
So then you're probably going to have to kill me.
And I'd rather you not.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Please.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
That's the thing.
joe rogan
I see what you're saying.
Well, you just, you can't get too close.
tim dillon
I don't want to get super close only because like, to me, it's like, I like my show because I can talk shit and say things and I just can't, I don't want to censor myself and I don't know how to censor myself and I wouldn't be fun or good at what I do if I censored myself.
And I think that like, you know, a lot of people out there in the world are under the impression that they can, everyone has an agenda and that's completely understandable.
And I think what they try to do is sometimes launder that agenda through some cultural space, however they want to do it, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
And that's happened forever.
It's not new.
It's not unique because there's an internet a thousand percent.
There's people that want the world to look a certain way, but they don't come out and tell you exactly how they want it to look.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
They figure out a way to kind of like, let's filter this.
So I, I, I, I'm trying to, I, when I, when I look at that and I go, cause I think it was a very nice dinner.
And I think what he wants, like, I'm sure it was like a lovely way.
like, he goes, I want to talk about the media.
And you're like a comedian, but you're in the media and like, you know, he has a bunch of people to his house.
There's probably smart people to go.
Yeah, he likes to have the media.
joe rogan
Big thought, like, fast tank conversations.
tim dillon
Yeah.
And I just felt like that didn't appeal to me.
joe rogan
Well, that's why he had Von Danikin for lunch, right?
So it's not all evil.
It's like, what is this about?
tim dillon
The thing is, it's a lot, you know, when people, what would really shock people in America is how much a lot of the super elites are not, it's not like it's all an a, and I'm sure some of it is, some club they're all in, but it's not like they're all lizards or it's an ancient blood cult.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
A lot of it is like they will feed you and your family into a multi so they can live two blocks closer to the beach.
It's just that things have always been good and they want them to stay good.
So somebody told me once it's it's the highest levels of society perpetuating themselves and just staying at the top of the food chain.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
And 90% of them have no idea what's going on and they're just rich and they just woke up rich and things are good and they can ski in Aspen or they can go to wherever Hampton's or Beverly Hills or whatever or here.
The beautiful areas here.
And then 10% of those people are earning the money.
They're the scions of the dynasties or they're the CEOs or they're the hedge fund managers or the private equity people.
And then one or 2% of those people are truly nefarious.
Those are the people who are fun.
And I mean, you know, those are the people who are, you know, those are the guys who are in that, whatever that smoke-filled room is.
joe rogan
Well, the awesome thing, to get to the top of that kind of a business, you have to be a bit of a sociopath.
tim dillon
For sure.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And you have 100% calculated.
This is where it's fascinating, like what Bill Gates has done in his career, where he's pivoted to become this guy who's like really concentrated on global health.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You know, and philanthropy.
All of his time is now spent on philanthropy.
tim dillon
Yes.
Well, it's a great way to launder money.
That's huge.
It's a great way to launder money.
joe rogan
It's also a great way to launder your image.
tim dillon
Great way to launder your image.
joe rogan
Well, I remember him in the 90s where everybody was mad at him.
He was the antitrust guy.
He was constantly in court about that.
tim dillon
Well, that's why he went to Epstein's Island because he was doing an ecological survey of the area he wanted to do.
He was studying beach erosion.
But this is the thing.
Throughout history, these people have never been caught red-handed.
Now they're kind of getting caught red-handed, and now they're employing every means at their disposal to keep a lot of this stuff quiet.
Not only that, I think my personal theory is that someone took a lot of these people in a room 20 years ago and went, listen, as soon as AI is out of the bottle, you got five or 10 years before the world's wild.
Build your bunkers, steal the money, take whatever you can, get it off the government balance sheet, however you're going to do it, because let Detroit go.
Who gives a fuck?
Don't give them health care.
Doesn't matter.
Don't fix the infrastructure.
Don't fix the schools.
From when AI is out of the box, you have five, seven, 10 years, probably closer to 10, 15 years, before shit gets really fucking weird.
So get your money now, and it's going to get what do you think get really weird looks like?
You know, just massive unemployment, civil unrest, you know, autonomous police forces, AI running large sectors of the government, just weird shit.
And then that to me is probably one of the reasons that, and I'm not saying it was one big meeting, but I think they know, and now maybe it's a folly.
Like people like Annie Jacobson go, the nukes start flying, everyone's dead.
We don't care how many bunkers they have, whatever.
Who knows?
Maybe it is a folly.
That being said, we've got underground cities all over the country.
The government's prepared, obviously, and has been for a while.
All of these private citizens are now worth in the hundreds of billions, some of them.
A lot of them are billionaires.
They're trying to hedge their bets in whatever way they can.
Thiels famously has this thing in New Zealand or wants to be in New Zealand if things go haywire.
joe rogan
That's where everybody wants to go, right?
tim dillon
They all want to go to New Zealand.
joe rogan
Why New Zealand?
tim dillon
It's beautiful.
It's an island.
joe rogan
Yeah, but is there some sort of a theory of how that survives?
Some sort of apocalypse?
tim dillon
I don't know.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Small population, rich natural resources.
tim dillon
All of that.
joe rogan
A lot of food.
tim dillon
All of that.
And I think that, like, so I mean, it feels like they're preparing for something.
It doesn't feel paranoid to suggest that they know it's going to get very weird.
I mean, there's been people falling in love with chatbots.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
tim dillon
It's going to get odd.
joe rogan
Well, then it's chatbots talking you into killing yourself.
That's also teaching you how to make a better news.
tim dillon
That's what's happening.
So, you know, I mean, I think, I think there's, I don't, here's a real question, an interesting question.
Are the elites in our country, and I mean, you know, not just rich people, I mean people that own companies that control large sectors of the economy, are they believing that 2050 is going to be will we still have the United States of America?
That's a real interesting question because all of these tech people talk like we won't.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
So what do they say?
tim dillon
Well, basically, they've talked about the need to, you know, one of the biggest startups during the pandemic was, you know, and Teal was an investor in this, was let's go buy a plot of land somewhere in the world and run a country on crypto and make it like a libertarian paradise.
It was called Praxis.
And they did this.
This was a big startup, but it got, you know, a good amount of funding because where'd they want to go?
They were talking about like Madagascar, I think.
They were talking about other places.
But you're looking.
joe rogan
I'm not aware of this.
tim dillon
Oh, it was a real thing.
I mean, it was.
joe rogan
Did you hear about this?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Jamie?
Sort of.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
It was real.
You look it up.
I mean, it's there.
joe rogan
So they were talking about using crypto and funding a new country.
tim dillon
Yeah, I don't think the tech people want.
Yeah, I mean, and I met these kids.
joe rogan
They were nice kids, but Praxis states that it has 2,034 citizens, 124 companies.
The companies founded by Praxis members have an aggregate valuation of $452 billion, which is good for the economy for about six weeks.
Although original Praxis plans include development in the Mediterranean, the company has explored Greenland as a site.
Huh.
tim dillon
The tech people don't, I think, I think they see the future of America as more feudalism than a representative democracy.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Reclaim the West.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The world's first digital nation.
What?
tim dillon
Yeah.
It's a real thing.
joe rogan
So now it says $922 billion value of Praxis-founded companies.
Now there's 103,000 Praxians.
Look at this fucking bizarre.
tim dillon
This is what the architecture is going to look like.
joe rogan
It's valuable fucking cliff so that when it all goes south, you could just leap to your death at any moment.
tim dillon
But it's aesthetically pleasing.
joe rogan
Or they could just chuck you off when your tweets don't align with their company's objectives.
tim dillon
But this is so this is one example of something that I think is, I think it's a little bit of the quiet part out loud where I think a lot of the tech people have given up on the idea of America as a nation state.
Not all of them.
joe rogan
What some of them Atlas, California proposes Atlas, California, a defense-focused spaceport city on 3,850 acres in Vandenberg Space Force Base, located on the California coast between Los Angeles and San Francisco.
Vandenberg already hosts SpaceX, Blue Origin, and Relativity Space.
Atlas will concentrate elite engineering talent with DOD assets to solve the defense challenges that will determine America's survival.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
What?
tim dillon
It's another hat and paste.
joe rogan
Go to the image that's above the header.
Look at this fucking image of this place.
tim dillon
I think none of this is actually happening.
I think it's more pretend per se, but I don't know.
joe rogan
Oh, it's just a couple months ago, June 4th.
tim dillon
They'd like it to happen.
joe rogan
This is weird.
tim dillon
But do you see what I mean?
It doesn't feel like the main concern here is America.
Right.
In any recognizable way.
joe rogan
It seems like they're preparing for the fall.
tim dillon
That seems to be what it is.
joe rogan
Yeah, that seems like you're preparing for the fall of America.
tim dillon
A thousand percent.
joe rogan
And defend the West.
On Earth and beyond.
tim dillon
By the way, not defend America.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
Defend the West.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So rise.
tim dillon
Rise.
Interesting.
joe rogan
Look at this quote.
We built the arsenal of democracy, split the atom, and reached the moon.
Now we must build a city that wins this century.
What?
Atlas is where America's engineers will develop the technologies that secure our future.
Join us.
This sounds like how they get you.
This is the end.
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Make a cool video and I'm in.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I would music.
tim dillon
I'm hoping after this, they offer me a tiny little plot to do a podcast, interview them about their work.
joe rogan
Right, look at discovery property.
Yeah.
So this idea is that when AI gets out of the box, as you say, the world's like filled with chaos.
Crime is rampant.
It's madness.
And then at that point, these guys wall themselves off, use all of their money, and defend the West.
tim dillon
That seems to be what it's like.
joe rogan
Defending is a weird...
tim dillon
Defending.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a weird way of phrasing things because you're not saying, you know, we look to establish a beautiful, harmonious community that, you know.
tim dillon
No, there is an element, I think, of defense.
Yeah, and they're defending them from an assault.
joe rogan
From maybe the defend the West.
tim dillon
But it's also like maybe you're defending them from forces that are aliens.
Well, sure, but or they're domestic.
They're Americans.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
It could also be transcendent.
joe rogan
Transcendent.
There it is.
Okay, inspired by the wisdom of great civilizations, we believe that true sovereignty is achieved through alignment with the transcendent.
You can't just say that.
tim dillon
This is going to all end up to just be like a line of skincare products at the end.
unidentified
Like it's just going to be Brian Johnson's vitamins.
tim dillon
Yeah, it's just Brian Johnson's vitamins and Chris Chatter's day alive.
joe rogan
The praxine way of life is driven by a vital energy that seeks transcendence through heroic action and contemplation.
Our mission is to channel this drive into a cohesive way of life forged by social structures and institutions that guide our people toward their destiny.
You just said nothing.
tim dillon
It's nothing.
And so what it is is opting out.
America.
joe rogan
That looks like a mushroom.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a mushroom cap.
Are you guys doing shrooms?
Because now I'm in.
tim dillon
Well, they're certainly doing shrooms.
joe rogan
Well, now I'm in.
tim dillon
They're certainly doing shrooms.
joe rogan
I want to go.
tim dillon
I'm not saying this is.
joe rogan
I don't think I have enough money.
tim dillon
I'm not saying it's bad.
I'm just saying this is kind of, and they're not going to be the only ones.
joe rogan
I need to up my game.
tim dillon
They're not going to be the only ones.
joe rogan
I'm going to go to the bathroom on this club because I want to defend freedom or whatever.
tim dillon
The West.
joe rogan
I want to defend the West.
You could join their Discord.
They have a Discord server.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Our primary centers.
tim dillon
Join the nation, take the pledge, and build the future of the West.
joe rogan
Our work primarily centers around developing culture and institutions that promote the praxine way of life.
Boy, this is creepy.
Because increase our economy.
Oh, oh, increase our economic.
tim dillon
He funded us out of the funding.
Fun.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
If you're going to, you know.
tim dillon
If you're the Antichrist, you want to at least have a little bit of a say of what goes on here.
joe rogan
Could you imagine if they really do know something and like the Antichrist is a real thing?
Like imagine if it's possible.
You get to like the highest levels of these meetings and they say, look, all this biblical stuff is actually based on reality.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And there's something coming and it will be like revelations in the Bible.
There's going to be something that goes down.
tim dillon
It could very possibly happen.
It is interesting to think about the Antichrist and then this all-powerful dark figure.
Again, not more powerful than God, but like a problem, like a real problem.
joe rogan
A real problem.
tim dillon
And then that person has to have lunch with J.D. Vance.
That's like an odd.
joe rogan
Well, if human beings are that.
If you think about religion as being something that serves human beings.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
And God wants human beings.
What would be the Antichrist?
What would be AI, wouldn't it be?
tim dillon
Well, I think when you get into living forever and playing God and doing all this stuff, you get into a very dark area of human beings having the capacity of God.
All these tech people who've now become super Christian, which seems to be a front because they know how to sell what they're trying to do to America that way.
joe rogan
How many of them are becoming super Christian?
A lot of steel?
unidentified
Of course.
tim dillon
Everyone does it.
joe rogan
How does he reconcile that with the gay stuff?
tim dillon
I don't know how anyone reconciles anything with anything.
But like he's, I think he's, I don't know, but they've realized they have to sell the AI stuff and the eventual augmenting of the biology, all of that to Americans.
And there'll probably be a lot of the objections to that will probably be religious or rooted in religion.
People going, I don't want to be, but if you can somehow launder it and go, no, no, no, God likes and wants you to have the autonomous drone.
You have to position yourself.
joe rogan
Interesting.
tim dillon
I don't know.
I'm sure he can reconcile the gay stuff with the way.
There's tons of gay Christians.
I'm sure he's a very smart guy.
He'll be able to figure it out.
joe rogan
That's an interesting strategy.
tim dillon
Well, that's distracting.
joe rogan
That does make sense, though, as a strategy.
It's how you would approach things.
tim dillon
You would have to.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
You would have to.
You'd have to go out and say, the good news is God wants you to have all of these things.
Which isn't Christianity.
It's some other, they've concocted something else.
You know, if you're augmenting your biology to live forever or to live a lot longer and you are seeding clouds and doing all of this stuff, then you are playing God.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
You are doing it.
And there's an argument that science is, you should do some of these things, whatever.
You can make that argument.
But that's not inherently a Christian argument.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, I think the real argument is that it's not just that you can do these things, but it's an imperative.
The reason being is that we're in competition with China.
tim dillon
What did you say?
You said you were blown away by something.
joe rogan
Oh, this Praxian show.
tim dillon
Well, it's not.
joe rogan
I had no idea that this was even a thing.
We've never discussed this before.
Have we ever?
jamie vernon
I don't think so.
tim dillon
But this was a big thing during the pandemic.
I don't know the reality of any of it.
Here's what I think.
Here's what it is emblematic of.
The rich opted out of America a while ago, the super rich, meaning like they let many American cities crumble.
They allowed the infrastructure of the country to rot.
They carved out places within the country that they were going to, you know, secure.
And those places are safe.
And those places are beautiful.
And those places have pretty good economies.
And they let the rest of it, you know, the Rust Belt and the Sun Belt, you know, a lot of the areas that were deindustrialized, they let a lot of that go.
What's the next culmination of that?
The next culmination of that, they're already kind of in a separate country.
So this is just the leveling up of that with tech, crypto.
You're off the dollar system.
You're in your own thing.
Or you're doing a digital currency system.
You know, that seems to be the next phase.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Well, I think the next phase is allow the same thing that happened to Detroit to happen to the entire country.
tim dillon
That seems to be correct, yes.
joe rogan
Yeah, because that seems like there's an inevitability of automation and of the jobs that AI is going to take away, except for venture capitalism.
Mark Andreessen's fine.
But everybody, we're fucked.
They're going to have AI comedians.
tim dillon
We'll have to interview Mark Andreessen every day.
unidentified
Every day.
tim dillon
Which I've tried.
He doesn't come on.
joe rogan
He didn't come on your show?
tim dillon
You wouldn't know.
unidentified
Really?
tim dillon
But he's a nice guy.
Listen, here's.
joe rogan
He's been on my show a few times.
Maybe next time.
tim dillon
You have a bigger show, actually, statistically.
unidentified
Interesting.
joe rogan
You have a big show, though.
tim dillon
It's a very big show.
And we would treat.
Thank you very much.
And thank Mark Maron for building it with me and being so generous with his fan base.
With me.
But the, yeah, it seems like they're going to, it seems like they're going to, you know, say America was fun.
We had a good run.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
But it seems inevitable that the standard of living is going to fall.
Now, a lot of people, like, and Elon is a smart guy, and I don't agree with him on everything, but he says things like, it's going to be good.
And the standard of living is going to rise with AI.
I hope that's the case, but there's going to be a lot of people out of work.
And I don't quite know how people's standard of living is going to increase.
I guess we're going to have some UBI that's enough or whatever, but it just feels to me like we're heading towards something that has the potential.
Maybe it won't be.
I'm not going to be a doomsdayer.
It has the potential to be incredibly disruptive.
It will be incredibly disruptive.
Now, for the good of the bad, I don't know, but it does seem like people are preparing for the inevitability of a large war.
France just said, get hospitals ready for war by 2026.
joe rogan
France just said that?
tim dillon
France just said that.
unidentified
Wow.
tim dillon
He came out.
Macron just came out and said, get the hospitals ready for 2026, because that's when Brigitte's transitioning back to a man.
joe rogan
But also have France orders hospital to be ready for war in six months' time.
unidentified
What is this goon still doing, this Zelensky goon?
What a goon this person is.
joe rogan
The director revealed in a letter to regional health agencies anticipates 10,000 to 50,000 men in hospital over a period.
Maybe this is why they let everybody into the country.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
Health Minister Catherine Voltrine.
Is that it?
Voltrin?
Yeah.
Confirmed the preparations saying that they're a normal part of anticipating crises in the current international context.
Again, what the fuck are you saying?
The letter dated 18 July suggests that France could serve as a rear base for a large-scale conflict and mentions setting up medical centers near transport hubs.
Okay.
Follows the distribution of a survival manual to French households and President Emmanuel Macron's plan to double France's defense spending by 2027.
How did that guy get to be the head of France?
Like, at this point, can he win an election?
tim dillon
No.
Probably not.
joe rogan
Now everybody knows that he's married to a man who, not only a man, but a man who smacks him in the face.
tim dillon
Allegedly.
joe rogan
I saw the video.
tim dillon
Well, the alleged man.
joe rogan
The alleged man.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, whatever, that woman smacked him in the face.
tim dillon
For sure.
joe rogan
He's getting abused.
tim dillon
She manhandled him.
joe rogan
Yeah, manhandled him.
Behind closed doors.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
She man spreads.
You ever see her man spread?
tim dillon
She mansplanes.
joe rogan
I don't know any women that sit down like that.
tim dillon
There's something off there.
She met Reed.
He was 40.
She was 15 or something.
He was a kid in school.
There's something really off.
That alone.
There's something very strange, very sinister.
joe rogan
They met when he was 14.
tim dillon
And she was 38 or something?
joe rogan
Something like that.
And then they started when she was 40.
Notice I say she.
I'm a good boy.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
I'm following the rules.
tim dillon
That's right.
Well, there's lawsuits, which I mentioned in.
joe rogan
Well, it was interesting watching Jake Tapper do that about the fucking shooter, the Catholic school shooter, like correcting the pronouns.
tim dillon
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tim dillon
You know?
joe rogan
It's bizarre, bizarro land we're in right now.
But anyway, what is going on in France?
Like that that guy is your fucking leader?
Like that's so weird.
And could when I see things like that, it's terrifying.
Is that possible they could pull that off in America?
When you go, well, they almost did with Kamala Harris.
tim dillon
Well, I think they have, by the way, they have before with lots of people.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
And we don't know the personal lives of any of these people.
joe rogan
You know what's really fun?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
When someone is in that whole race and running for president or vice president, and then the race is over and they realize that person was a liability, so they cut them off.
And then that person goes wacky like Tim Walt.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
Did you see where he had a fuck Trump shirt on?
Yeah.
And he's dancing and going down an elevator.
Have you seen this video?
tim dillon
I haven't seen it.
Please play it.
I haven't seen it.
joe rogan
Please, Jamie, find him.
tim dillon
Well, Tim Waltz is a real-time.
But this is weird.
That was a big mistake.
joe rogan
Oh, a huge mistake.
tim dillon
He should have picked Josh Shapiro from the governor of Pennsylvania.
joe rogan
I think they're worried about the Jewish thing.
tim dillon
Well, of course.
It's a big swing state.
And it would have been better.
joe rogan
Okay.
Go full screen.
tim dillon
Is that really this him?
jamie vernon
No, it's not real.
joe rogan
It's real.
No, it's not.
Yes, it is.
jamie vernon
AI generated.
joe rogan
No, no, no, it's real.
jamie vernon
No, look, I can tell it's not real.
joe rogan
I love it.
It's real.
unidentified
It's not real.
joe rogan
It's got to be real.
jamie vernon
It has to be real.
unidentified
It's not real.
joe rogan
It has to be real.
tim dillon
Jamie.
joe rogan
Come on, Jamie.
tim dillon
Jamie's compromised.
joe rogan
Look at him dancing.
That is so real, Jamie.
tim dillon
By the way, if this was real, he might have won.
jamie vernon
That's probably a real person.
It might not be Tim Waltz.
The fuck Trump is AI generated.
joe rogan
No, he slaps his ass.
tim dillon
I mean, that is hilarious.
joe rogan
No, it's definitely him.
This is all 100% real, Jamie.
You're a plant, by the way.
tim dillon
Jamie's compromised.
And I'm worried about Jamie, and I'm worried about Grok.
joe rogan
Does it say that it's AI?
unidentified
I mean, yes.
joe rogan
You say it's AI.
No, the video.
Everybody says it.
jamie vernon
The video I played on top says it's AI generated.
joe rogan
Rep Riley Moore fell for an AI-generated video of Minnesota.
I fell for it too.
And you know why I fell for it?
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because I believe that he's capable of doing something.
tim dillon
But that's his essence.
joe rogan
He's so weird.
tim dillon
He's a weird guy.
He's in the CCP.
He's controlled by communist China, most likely.
joe rogan
He went over there a ton of times.
tim dillon
Well, he thinks it's a good place.
That's the thing.
I don't think he's controlled, meaning like whatever they're like nodes on his head.
But like, I'm saying like, he thinks that's a better way of life.
Well, he thinks government control over your life is a better way of life.
joe rogan
And if you wanted to find a guy that maybe you could have some shit on to put into office.
That guy.
tim dillon
Well, he's a creep.
joe rogan
He's a weird.
tim dillon
He's a creepy guy, and nobody knows exactly what his qualifications were to be the vice president of the United States.
That was all left out.
No one has any clue.
joe rogan
Well, he did a really good job with defunding the police.
tim dillon
Well, you know, his psychopath wife sat there and was like, when we smelled the burning tires from the riots, it was a real moment.
We just took it in.
The people that live in that region of the country, many of them are sick.
They don't get enough sunlight.
It's very cold.
They're incredibly radical.
They live around all white people, and yet they're the most concerned with racism.
And, you know, they almost elected a Somali mayor there or governor or something, but they just pulled his support away.
joe rogan
Yeah, what happened with that?
tim dillon
They said that there was something wrong with the convention, that there were like people's votes weren't counted.
But it seems like the Democrats realized, oh, we're going to import all these people that we think they're going to vote for us.
They're actually going to vote for themselves and get rid of us.
So it's like, oh, we'll import all these people.
They'll vote for us.
And then they're like, wait a minute, fuck you.
We'll just run one of our people.
Why the hell?
Why do we need to, why do we need to elect you?
We can just elect this guy.
And it's like the guy from Captain Phillips.
It's the guy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
It's the pirate.
joe rogan
I'm not sure.
Yeah.
tim dillon
And I'm sure he's lovely.
And I'm not saying he shouldn't run in America.
I'm not saying a pirate shouldn't be the mayor of a great American city.
joe rogan
That fucking state has not recovered from Prince dying.
tim dillon
No, no.
joe rogan
They fell off.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I think, by the way, died of fentanyl.
tim dillon
That's right.
The small boat crisis.
unidentified
Really?
tim dillon
Yeah.
Fent.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hip issues.
In pain, got a hold of the wrong pills.
tim dillon
The patch.
joe rogan
So here's the thing.
No, it's not that.
The patch won't kill you because the patches actually goes through the dermis.
It actually regulates the dose.
Prince Rogers Nelson, official cause of death was an accidental overdose of fentanyl.
So what happens is, and what happened with Tom Petty too, is these guys, their taste, their appetite far exceeds the prescription.
And they're in pain all the time.
And so they get pills from other people.
So with Tom Petty, I think he got it from a Rodi.
He wound up dying.
I don't know where Prince got his from.
But what happens is, you know, you're getting a prescription from your doctor, and maybe he only gives you three pills a day, and you really want 10.
tim dillon
And then you start.
joe rogan
Wasn't it like, what the fuck's his name?
Rush Limbaugh.
tim dillon
Wasn't he taking like 16 a day OxyCon?
joe rogan
I think it was higher than that.
tim dillon
It might have been.
It might have been.
joe rogan
I think it was something nuts.
tim dillon
It was nuts.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Yeah, and he was doing broadcasting every day.
joe rogan
Well, that's what made him go deaf, apparently.
Alex Jones explained it to me.
unidentified
Wow.
tim dillon
Interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
Prince had thought he was taking the prescription drug Vicodin when he in fact taking a counterfeit Vicodin pill laced with potentially deadly fentanyl.
Yeah, so same thing.
So you think you're getting these pills that you're addicted to.
Prince apparently had hip problems from all the dancing.
tim dillon
Sure.
joe rogan
You know, it's like, I know a lot of martial artists have fake hips.
So you get in pain and the pain is debilitating.
You can't tolerate it.
And so like, hey, take a pill.
And then next thing you know, you're fucked.
And then you're on that train and you need something and you got a Viking informer.
You got a Viking.
Oh, fucking Viking.
Then you're foaming at the mouth and dead in the hotel floor.
tim dillon
That really sucks.
And that is terrible.
joe rogan
It's fucking horrible.
It's fucking horrible.
And by the way, all that shit would have been avoided if there was legal drugs.
tim dillon
Well, the other, yes.
But I also think like a lot of these antidepressants and stuff, a lot of those things, and there's people that obviously need them and are helped by them, and that's great.
But like the pharmaceutical industry is so powerful and so well funded.
And, you know, it's clear that, you know, one of the ways you're going to try to control the population once people don't have jobs or a purpose is by getting them all on a bevy of medications.
joe rogan
Get them dosed up to the point where they're real doll.
tim dillon
I think they're going to dose people up.
Dose them up.
joe rogan
Nothing upsets you.
And then you can just take your government stipend and you're going to be fine.
And you'll have less money, but you'll have all the objects that you need.
tim dillon
You'll have all the things that you're going to do.
joe rogan
Because the government will send you free TVs.
Because the TVs will be going to be made by robots.
tim dillon
And you can't react like if you're sitting on a beach and then a small migrant boat shows up and then they all just start running.
You just look at it and kind of nod and go, huh?
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Then someone will turn, who else is going to clean your toilet?
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
You need that.
tim dillon
Right.
Right.
Who's going to clean your toilet?
Who's going to clean yourself?
unidentified
Who's going to drink your piss, Mr. Trump?
tim dillon
It's going to be, it's going to be really interesting to see if Farage wins in the UK, if the Reform Party wins.
When is that?
It's coming up.
I don't know exactly when.
joe rogan
Someone has to reverse course and it might be too late because the amount of change that they've had over the past few years is staggering.
You know, the Graham Linehan arrest, I think, woke a lot of people up today.
The fact that you could see the tweets that they arrested him for, the fact that they're arresting people for saying, I love bacon, like all that shit is.
tim dillon
The only way you can make these changes to a society as swiftly as they are is by stifling dissent and punishing it and criminalizing it.
joe rogan
Yes.
tim dillon
There's absolutely no way to completely remake a society in the span of like 36 months, you know?
Like you can't do that without shutting everybody up.
joe rogan
You shut everybody up and you import.
tim dillon
Nobody is voting to be a minority in their own country.
Nobody is voting to lose economic and cultural ground in their own country.
People certainly think immigrants can benefit a country and make a country better.
And that's why historically we've had immigration, but nobody is voting for massive, large-scale immigration that completely destabilizes an existing economy.
joe rogan
And the majority of it is Muslim.
tim dillon
It's Muslim immigrants.
joe rogan
Which is weird.
Like, when you think about all the Latin American countries, all the different countries, like, why is this the one?
tim dillon
Well, because it's the one you can't criticize.
It's the one you cannot say you don't want.
It's the one that is not going to be able.
There are real conditions in the world that create refugees.
Climate is one of them.
Destabilizing wars are another one.
So if you're all over the world destabilizing countries with war and covert operations and all of this stuff and enriching a small circle of people and all those refugees need a place to stay, you got to take a man and you got to tell your people to shut the fuck up.
And that's what's been going on.
Progressives, when I grew up, used to care deeply about their fellow citizens having health care, a place to live, be able to send their kids to college, retire, whatever.
All of the energy now, for example, in the New York mayoral race, is about whether Jewish people feel safe with the Muslim mayor and whether the Muslim mayor feels that illegal immigrants are being treated nicely enough.
They don't care at all about citizens of this country.
They don't care about black people who are genuinely owed a debt from the things that Americans have done, bringing them to the country as slaves, preventing them from acquiring wealth, Jim Crow, redlining all that.
That is no longer an issue.
They don't talk about elderly people.
They don't talk about Social Security.
They don't talk about that.
All of the energy that was, you know, and has happened right around Occupy Wall Street, right around Occupy Wall Street.
And people started to realize that it was a little bit of a scam the way the country was being run.
You had people start to design a Democratic Party.
You ran identity politics.
And then the Republican Party was always kind of designed around this idea that like, you know, you had maximum freedom to start your own hedge fund.
unidentified
Shut up.
tim dillon
Stop complaining.
Whatever.
And populism was kind of killed in America.
Unions were killed.
Workers' rights were killed.
And now all this progressive energy that used to get funneled into like people having health care is now specifically for non-citizens.
Yeah, weird.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Extraordinary amounts of money.
tim dillon
Extraordinary amounts of money.
And it's not about America or the future of New York City, the most economically, it's the top city in the world economically.
And the focus is in not about Americans.
It's about undocumented people and if Jews and Muslims are going to play nice.
joe rogan
Weird.
tim dillon
It's odd.
unidentified
Real weird.
tim dillon
It's strange to me.
I'm not saying those are completely unimportant issues, but they completely dominate the conversation to a level that's absurd.
joe rogan
He's also, here's another absurd thing.
He's also running on this promise of setting up a transgender hub where you can go and get fixed up there.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where they're going to pay for people.
tim dillon
In the park?
No, I'm kidding.
joe rogan
There's a tent.
tim dillon
There's a tent to go to the Washington Square Park.
joe rogan
He's fucking one of those decades.
tim dillon
He's going to do it in the Friends Fountain that they all jumped in.
Yeah, he's going to do it.
No, I mean, we don't need a transgender hub, not to hurt anybody's feelings.
People should be able, I think adults should be able to do whatever they want.
joe rogan
The Friends theme is playing in my head right now.
tim dillon
It is, yeah.
In the fountain.
unidentified
Yeah.
tim dillon
We don't need a transgender hub.
We don't need a sanctuary city.
I don't think we all, we don't, and I mean, you've said this.
You don't need Ice Raids ripping families apart at graduation either.
joe rogan
No.
tim dillon
But you need an enforcement of law.
You need to build a middle class.
You need to make things affordable.
They run California on $8 trillion worth of tech money in Northern California.
They run New York on a lot of fucking finance money.
And these people bring in a class of people that cannot understand them.
So culturally, it's nice when Demaid can't understand you.
It's nice.
It's nice when she really doesn't know what you're saying.
And I'm not saying that you obviously get rid of every immigrant, but this whole idea that the American working class, if they are not participating in their own destruction, they are somehow a racist or they're xenophobic.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
It's psychotic.
joe rogan
It is psychotic.
tim dillon
It's psychotic.
It's weird.
joe rogan
It's just weird that people accept it.
And it's also weird that it's attached to being a kind, compassionate person that's on the left.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And, you know, and also just complete lack of any like anybody who gets arrested has no cash bail.
tim dillon
Yeah.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So there's no punishment for committing crimes.
It's very, it's very strange.
Like it is all set.
Like if you wanted to be the person, if you want to be the person that's going to like try to completely destabilize a country, you would do it exactly that way.
I'm not saying that that's why they're doing it, but it just feels very strange that they've gotten everybody to kind of go along with all this.
tim dillon
Well, it seems to be preparing to run a country without people.
It seems very much if I'm a nut at Conspiracy Not, which I am, and I'm wondering how you begin to sever ties with people.
First, you're going to replace the people in your own country with people from another country that you could pay a lot less money to, who you have no cultural ties with, who you don't even speak the same language.
And then eventually you're going to discard those people for robots.
joe rogan
Interesting.
tim dillon
And machines.
joe rogan
Well, I think you want to set up more internal conflict.
Like if people figure out that this white versus black struggle in America is kind of bullshit, right?
And then the racism that people think exists is kind of accentuated by social media.
And then they figure out that that racism that exists is accentuated by bots so that they're pitting us against each other when most people are cool, the vast majority.
And then also there's the gay straight thing.
And there's this weird push recently to try to repeal gay marriage.
It's like who's pushing that?
Well, that seems like one of those fake things that they do to keep each other out of each other's throats.
Well, what's the ultimate one?
The ultimate one is Sharia law.
The ultimate one is bring in as many Muslims as you can.
Let them gather up steam.
Let them build up an alliance.
Let a bunch of like really fucking stupid, wacky leftists go along with this.
tim dillon
And then you believe that.
joe rogan
Not knowing that that religion is counter to everything you stand for.
tim dillon
I'm believing.
joe rogan
Everything you stand for as far as women's rights, gay rights.
tim dillon
So I think religious freedom.
I think you're right.
I think you're 100% right.
And I think the funny thing about a lot of the big, you know, super wealthy people is they don't care if there's large swaths of Michigan under Sharia law.
They wouldn't care.
joe rogan
No.
tim dillon
They're really interested in 12 zip codes that they're going to gate off.
It's obvious.
Like they're interested, they're all over the world.
They have homes everywhere.
Yeah.
And, you know, I don't think they care.
I mean, if they cared long-term about America, wouldn't our cities look better?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
Wouldn't our cities look better?
Wouldn't we have taken more care to have thriving cities?
It wouldn't take that much more money.
No.
So to me, I start thinking about like, it feels like they've given up.
joe rogan
I don't even know if they've given up.
I think it's a strategy.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think there's a strategy.
You need a bunch of discontent.
You need a bunch of people that are upset.
You need a bunch of people that are constantly worried about their bills because when you're worried about your bills, you're not worried about anything else.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
You need a bunch of people that are sick.
So you need to deny them healthcare.
That's what you need to make sure that they're not getting paid.
The claims are not getting accepted.
And then make sure that you've got constant struggle in terms of what you're allowed to say, what you're not allowed to say.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
And that's where we come in.
tim dillon
People need to be paranoid and scared.
unidentified
That's where we come in.
joe rogan
Because we were an unexpected thing.
I think podcasters and social media in general, but they can kind of subvert social media with bots.
You can't really do that with podcasters because you know that they're really talking or they're not.
You can do AI stuff like the Tim Waltz thing.
tim dillon
Yeah, but no, for sure.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
I think they were not prepared for this level of pushback.
joe rogan
No.
tim dillon
That the citizens are giving on things like Epstein, on things like, you know, whatever.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
And they're unprepared for how to deal with it.
joe rogan
Epstein accusers put pressure on Congress to release the files.
jamie vernon
This happened about an hour ago there on Capitol Hill, giving a two-hour press conference.
A bunch of accusers, I think for the first time publicly, showed their faces, made interesting that they're going to compile a list since they know the names themselves.
joe rogan
Interesting.
unidentified
Oh, whoa.
tim dillon
By the way, Taylor Green's been heroic on this.
joe rogan
Look at this.
By the way, look at this quote.
I was only 14 years old when I met Jeffrey.
One of nine female Epstein accusers who appeared at a news conference on Capitol Hill.
What?
It was the summer of high school.
I was working three jobs to try to support my mom.
Of course, those are the type of people you grab, right?
When a friend of mine in the neighborhood told me I could make $300 to give another guy a massage.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It went from a dream job to the worst nightmare.
tim dillon
People need to go to jail.
joe rogan
Fuck.
tim dillon
I mean, this is the reality.
People need to go to jail.
joe rogan
Holy fuck.
Okay, hold on.
Another Epstein accuser, Annie Farmer, alleged she was 16 in 1996 when she was flown to New Mexico to spend a weekend with Epstein.
unidentified
16.
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Maxwell was assaulted.
Her sister, Maria, was also assaulted there, farmer said.
And sensitive photos of the sisters were stolen by Epstein.
The incident was reported to authorities.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
What a fucking psycho that guy was.
tim dillon
14.
Well, I think it's going to come out.
I think it's going to come out.
I think it's going to come out that he was a not only obviously well known that he was a notorious pedophile, evil guy, but also that he was working for Israel.
I mean, I think this is going to come out.
And so this is what I've been, what I think, but I also believe is somewhat well-known and not a huge secret.
joe rogan
Isn't it the whole thing is very strange that you have a pedophile who's also connected to all these insanely wealthy and powerful people and then does something where he gets all these people together for parties and then supposedly has all of this information and all this.
And then you have Pam Bondi saying there's thousands of hours of film.
But then you have Cash Patel saying, no, there's nothing.
There's nothing.
He killed himself.
tim dillon
We are absolutely 100% going to find some very uncomfortable things out about his relationship with Israel.
I mean, this is not going to be a piece of paper that says, hey, I'm working, but there's going to be enough circumstantial evidence that's going to connect him, not only to our own government, which I imagine that the CIA was involved as well, but I think it's going to connect him to such a goof.
joe rogan
These are their files that they're holding up for everybody.
The guy with the cowboy hat's got to go.
Who's that guy?
tim dillon
I don't know.
joe rogan
But I think that hat is ridiculous, sir.
These are old files, too, and they did this.
That fucking cowboy hat's ridiculous.
Just holding up the thing wearing a cowboy hat.
We're here for American justice.
unidentified
The Epstein files phase one.
tim dillon
There's more.
Listen, there's a reason that none of this has come to light.
And there's a reason that they're dragging their feet on releasing this.
joe rogan
Yeah, because the amount of people that are powerful.
tim dillon
There are so many people ensnared by this.
But also, the other thing is, like, I think it is going to be an uncomfortable, and more than uncomfortable, perhaps, with if it comes out that our ally, very close ally of America, was having, was, you know, was having this happen.
Obviously, it's not the Israeli people.
It's not even the Israeli government per se, but it's a group in whatever you want to call it, the Israeli deep state or their intelligence community that was using Jeffrey Epstein as an access agent to get access to people and leverage on people.
joe rogan
Do you think that he was a pedophile to begin with?
Yeah, this is our guy because he's fucked up.
Absolutely.
And then they have him run things.
But how do you get a pedophile that can keep his shit together?
tim dillon
You find one that's good.
joe rogan
Well, he couldn't.
tim dillon
Obviously, he couldn't keep his shit together, but, you know, the 90s were a different time.
There's no camera phones.
jamie vernon
That's true.
tim dillon
There's no internet.
joe rogan
That's true.
tim dillon
You can intimidate reporters.
You can intimidate DAs.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
This is a Vice article from 2017 about the DC Madam I found earlier.
And I thought this was interesting.
They tried to bring the info out later after she had died already.
unidentified
Uh-huh.
jamie vernon
And our attorney said the records could impact the presidential election.
joe rogan
What?
tim dillon
What?
jamie vernon
The Supreme Court denied the applications.
tim dillon
Wait a minute.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
jamie vernon
They tried to FOIA the FBI, IRS, and the Postal Inspection Service since they were involved too because it was a male thing.
She was in Northern California, and they barely sent any info.
joe rogan
And so, this was in 2001?
jamie vernon
17.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie vernon
I think that's when the article was.
joe rogan
There's no presidential election.
tim dillon
Supposedly, Jeffrey Epstein said to his brother or to someone, if people knew what I knew, both candidates in the presidential election would have to step down.
That's a quote.
Jamie can find that.
unidentified
Wow.
jamie vernon
Also, wasn't he on the phone with his mother in quotes before he died?
unidentified
Who?
jamie vernon
Epstein in prison.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
They said he was on the phone with his mother for like an hour.
joe rogan
How's he getting on the phone when he's inside the jail?
jamie vernon
His mother's dead, too.
tim dillon
Was the thing real about the trust of the money?
joe rogan
What are you saying?
His mother was already dead?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Before that.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
So who's saying that he was in on the phone with his mother?
tim dillon
So maybe he was on the phone with someone else.
joe rogan
There's a lot of misinformation that gets attached to true stories to make the stories goofy.
This is the whole Comet Pizza thing.
tim dillon
Disinfo.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This is the PC.
tim dillon
Something's weird with that, though.
joe rogan
Oh, fuck yeah.
Something's weird with that.
Why is this pizza?
tim dillon
I saw that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What?
tim dillon
The documentary, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Just the absolute facts.
jamie vernon
Just a summary from AI, but.
joe rogan
Unmonitored phone call to a girlfriend, though he told prison staff that he was calling his mother, who had been dead for 15 years.
Key details from the report include the call was a violation of policy on the evening, excused himself from a meeting with his lawyers to make a call.
You could just leave.
You can just make a call in prison?
jamie vernon
These are all questions.
joe rogan
I thought you have to wait in line for the phone.
The office of the inspector general found that a supervisor at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York allowed Epstein to make an unmonitored call, which is a violation of the Bureau of Prisons policy.
Deception was successful to get permission for the unmonitored call.
Epstein told prison staff that he wanted to call his mother, who had died in 2004.
Instead, he called a girlfriend.
The call was not properly logged or recorded.
How convenient.
tim dillon
Nice.
joe rogan
The call's content is unknown.
Call was unmonitored and unrecorded.
Investigators cannot determine its content.
Oh, why would you determine the content of a guy who's involved the most high-profile investigators?
tim dillon
They had to get rid of him.
There was no way to keep him around.
And if he is still alive somehow, I don't know where he is, obviously, but there's a possibility he's at Wexner's compound.
joe rogan
And then there's a fucking guy that he was sharing a cell with.
tim dillon
That guy.
Creepy guy.
joe rogan
Gigantic, muscular guy who killed a woman.
tim dillon
He could have killed him.
He could have killed him.
They might have killed him.
But there are tapes, I think, that are missing a minute.
They're missing time.
joe rogan
Oh, they found the new minute today.
tim dillon
Did you see that?
joe rogan
The missing minute they conveniently found it today.
Did you hear about that, Jamie?
You didn't hear?
I'll send it to you.
tim dillon
The missing minute.
joe rogan
Yeah, they found it.
They know where it is now.
tim dillon
Oh, well, no worries.
unidentified
Now it's good.
jamie vernon
I had heard that they knew where it was the whole time.
They just, they didn't want to.
Here, I got it up, Bonjo.
joe rogan
You got it?
They knew where it was the whole time.
They just didn't want to tell you.
Release of missing minute of Epstein video contradicts Bondi's camera stopped recording.
Oh, no.
Contradicts Bondi's claim.
Video taken outside Epstein's cell on night he died as part of new materials released by the House Oversight Committee.
Why do you have that new minute set aside?
What's that?
tim dillon
It's a new minute.
It's kill Tony.
You got to do a new minute.
It's Epstein's new minute.
joe rogan
Kill Jeffrey.
jamie vernon
Saying he was still alive.
This story came out this week, too.
Did you see this?
joe rogan
Old master painted looted by Nazis spotted in Argentine property listing.
jamie vernon
They found a painting that was stolen and no one had seen it for 200 years or so.
joe rogan
Oh, and they found it in.
jamie vernon
The Nazis took it and it was found on Azillo post.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
I'll double check.
unidentified
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Well, that's Argentina.
That's the whole thing.
tim dillon
It's the whole thing.
joe rogan
The Argentina, literally, there's towns in Argentina that have Oktoberfest where everybody speaks German.
They're always later on.
tim dillon
It's in Argentina.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's photos of, you know, like, this is Grandpa in his SS fucking uniforms on the wall.
Yeah, Tim Kennedy did that show, Finding Hitler.
Right.
Where they went down there.
tim dillon
Do you think he went?
joe rogan
Yes.
jamie vernon
Hitler?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
tim dillon
And went to Argentina.
joe rogan
I think it's very possible that that's the case.
I don't know if it's true, but I've never seen any photos of his dead dead body.
tim dillon
Interesting.
joe rogan
But there is a conspiracy that he went to Argentina, right?
tim dillon
Big one, yeah.
joe rogan
And didn't someone just confirm that recently?
It was in some file.
tim dillon
Someone said he lived and had a bunch of children and was actually a lovely man.
That's what they're saying.
I didn't, I've never met him.
unidentified
Well, this is the latest whitewashing of what Hitler is.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is the problem with history, is that there's so much lies that even when things go, even about a monster, you go, but maybe it wasn't so bad.
tim dillon
Well, of course.
And I think that this is part of the reason that it's so difficult because we were lied to so much now and we're so propagandized now that people look back and go, what else is propaganda?
But that can lead you to some dark and bad places.
joe rogan
Yes.
And going back, Hitler's good.
And that can be weaponized.
tim dillon
Of course.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's also the part of the problem.
tim dillon
You got to constantly be vigilant about your own consuming of information.
joe rogan
You got to run everything through a filter.
Absolutely.
What do you got about it?
jamie vernon
I found an update on that painting.
It was a for sale notice revealed that it was Frederick Heidegger, which is a financial advisor to Adolf Hitler.
He was placed in charge of moving Nazi plunder to South America.
And shortly after the article was published, the painting disappeared.
tim dillon
Just such a funny idea of Hitler having a financial advisor.
But of course he would.
joe rogan
Verduai invest the jugal of course he would arrest daughter, son-in-law of Hitler's financial advisor over looted painting.
How would they know?
jamie vernon
They failed to, I think it might have been their house.
joe rogan
Failed, but how would they know where the painting came from?
Portrait of a lady, which has been missing since for sale.
Notice revealed it was a Nazi fugitive.
Frederick Codigan's home.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Argentina.
So what is the theory about Hitler going to Argentina?
Because someone said that.
And it was supposedly at least semi-credible that there might be some truth to the idea that Hitler went to Argentina and escaped.
And the idea of him dying in the bunker was just bullshit.
No, it's very possible.
tim dillon
And he lived there supposedly and had children and grandchildren.
That's what I read recently.
joe rogan
Yeah, I read it recently too, but I don't know if that's true either.
But here's the thing.
But what is true is Nazis went to Argentina 100%.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
100%.
That's true.
And Brazil as well.
tim dillon
But then also, didn't they hunt them?
Didn't like the Israelis hunt them?
joe rogan
Oh, find a lot of people?
Absolutely.
Fucking lutely.
Yeah.
tim dillon
Yeah, it's crazy.
joe rogan
They caught a bunch of them.
They got a bunch of them.
Yeah, because a lot of these idiots, you know, they're in their daughter's Facebook posts in the background.
They're running through facial recognition software.
Oh, look at that.
That's Adolph.
tim dillon
That's Gerhard.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at him.
Go get him.
Yeah, they found these guys.
They prosecuted when they're in their 90s and shit.
tim dillon
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's wild.
I was a CIA agent.
There's growing proof Hitler faked his death, and I think I know where he was hiding.
tim dillon
Where was it?
Was it Austin?
joe rogan
See, but if you say he's a CIA agent, I'm like, okay, are you bullshit?
Did you sell drugs in LA?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Like, you know what I mean?
tim dillon
Right, right.
What are you really, right?
unidentified
Who are you?
tim dillon
Do you really know?
joe rogan
Yeah, what's a U.S. CIA agent currently?
tim dillon
If Hitler was alive today, he'd be too old.
So he has to be dead.
joe rogan
Oh, he's dead.
He's definitely dead.
But the thing is, like, did he really go to Argentina, and how did no one take a picture of him there?
tim dillon
I guess, you know, there's probably a lot of people.
joe rogan
Maybe he just shaves the mustache and he's like, Clark Kent.
tim dillon
You always pick up the picture.
That's a great point about the Pacific Northwest.
You could kind of go up there and really disappear.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
tim dillon
In the thicket of the forest, right?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, supposedly there's food.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You need food and resources if you don't know how to hunt.
And even if you do know how to hunt, you need to refrigerate things, so you need a power source.
It's not easy.
tim dillon
That's the densest woods in America, this Pacific Northwest?
joe rogan
Oh, it's crazy up there.
When Duncan and I went looking for Bigfoot, we did a show.
We went up there.
tim dillon
Looking for Hitler.
joe rogan
It's basically unfuckable white guys out camping.
That was the joke.
Here's what you don't find when you go looking for Bigfoot.
Black people.
You're more likely to find Bigfoot than you are black people looking for Bigfoot.
It's unfuckable white guys and white guys.
And, you know, they're having fun and they're looking at like shadows.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think that's him.
Look at the outline of the body.
They're all dorks.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Of course.
But the thing is, bears occasionally walk on two legs.
And if you see one in the Pacific Northwest, what you're looking at is like the trees are like this.
It's like the way I describe it always is like a box of q-tips.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're so densely stacked in there.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
You can't see 15 yards.
You can't see any.
It's crazy how dense it is out there.
But if you're going to build a house out there and survive out there, you're going to have to have a path.
You're going to have to be able to chop down wood and build a house or you have to bring in other materials.
How are you going to get water pipes?
So then you don't have running water.
If you don't have pipes, okay, what are you shitting in an outhouse?
tim dillon
How are the winters out there tough?
They're not as tough as the East Coast.
joe rogan
Bad.
No.
I mean, it might snow a little.
But like Mount Rainier up there, it's not that bad.
You could live.
It's just wet.
tim dillon
It's just once.
That's supposedly the one that's real creepy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
People disappear.
It's supposedly like one of those ancient portals of whatever.
joe rogan
Here it is.
jamie vernon
Here's the documents that the government in Argentina or Argentina.
joe rogan
Well, you know how it's legit?
Because they put a black line through secret.
jamie vernon
That's what's the CIA document.
joe rogan
Hitler hideout in Argentina.
So this is, what does it say at the top there?
It says approve for release 2020, September or excuse me, July 14th.
jamie vernon
So they were saying that the CIA was searching for Hitler in Argentina up to 10 years after he was known to have been dead.
Wow.
But even this says, like, they have a source and they don't know if it's true or even reliable.
But, you know, they have to look into it, I suppose.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Well, you know, if you send fucking CIA down to Argentina, the odds of them not getting busted.
Like, people are going to know immediately dorks come fucking wearing eyesod shirts.
tim dillon
Yeah, and so what's the thing?
They just couldn't find him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Or, I mean.
What's this?
These are some of the files that came out.
joe rogan
With a man who claimed to be Hitler on a beach in Colombia.
tim dillon
Kind of looked like Hitler.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he's got his legs crossed like Gavin Newsom.
tim dillon
Why would he claim to be Hitler?
unidentified
Like, why would he say I'm Hitler?
joe rogan
No, go back to that photo again.
tim dillon
People just want attention.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of people that want attention.
tim dillon
People just want attention.
joe rogan
That is the worst photo I've ever seen in my life.
I could draw a better photo than that if you gave me 20 minutes.
unidentified
Right.
jamie vernon
I mean, can I update it?
See what it looks like.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do that.
Do that.
Fuck yeah.
What a wonderful time we live in.
tim dillon
Let's see if it really is Hitler.
joe rogan
Tell AI to update this photo and then tell it to give him the Sharon Osborne.
tim dillon
How big is Argentina?
joe rogan
It's pretty big.
tim dillon
Okay, so you could get lost.
joe rogan
It's very wooded.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And a lot of cattle ranches.
tim dillon
Small towns and so on.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're famous for their beef.
tim dillon
Right.
It's amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're really good at cooking.
tim dillon
So you could conceivably, if you're Hitler, be not, you could live there and not be perhaps.
joe rogan
The thing is that you're an old man and old men need medical resources.
You need running water.
You know, the odds of you existing in the forest, like people have this romantic idea of being like a subsistence hunter.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where are you going to get all your bullets?
You know, it ain't that simple, man.
Are you going to make your own arrows?
Shut the fuck up.
You're not going to kill anything with those things.
Shut your fucking dirty mouth.
Like, where are you getting your broadheads?
tim dillon
It's not going to happen.
joe rogan
It's too hard to hunt.
tim dillon
It's too hard.
joe rogan
Hunting is hard.
unidentified
No, you need the amenities.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
You need food.
tim dillon
Of course.
joe rogan
You need someone to bring in grain.
Of course.
You need rice and you need beans and you need stuff for substance.
You need to survive.
Like, the idea that you're just going to live in the woods is nonsense.
People are fucking crazy.
It's crazy.
How many bullets do you bring in, man?
You know?
tim dillon
Not enough.
joe rogan
You better have boxes and boxes of boxes and boxes of bullets.
jamie vernon
So the CIA document says that he moved from Colombia to Argentina in January 1995.
joe rogan
1955.
jamie vernon
Probably 55.
But because 10 years had passed since the end of the war, the Allies could no longer prosecute Hitler as a criminal of war.
joe rogan
Is that true?
unidentified
What?
Wait a minute, what?
joe rogan
That's crazy.
Is this the CIA documents?
These are photos.
They look so fake.
They look more fake than that photo.
Did you run that photo through AI?
jamie vernon
It's still doing it.
joe rogan
Let's see what it says.
It update it.
Creating an image.
This might take a moment.
Okay.
It's like the old days.
You weren't around back then, but in like AOL, when you get a picture of a naked lady doing it, it'd be real funny if it's really.
No, it's going to.
We're going to crack the case.
jamie vernon
Someone was talking to him.
He was once a month speaking to him in Colombia.
joe rogan
On his trip.
jamie vernon
That's where that picture came from.
joe rogan
Wow.
What?
Okay.
So Philip Citrone, former German SS soldier, SS trooper, stated to him confidentially that Adolf Hitler is still alive.
Citrone claimed to have contacted Hitler about once a month in Colombia on his trip from, how do you say that?
Marcibo?
Maracibo to that country as an employee of Royal Dutch shipping company in Maracibo.
Citrone indicated to, what's that word?
It's spelled, I think that's their contact, and that's what's A friend that he took a picture with Hitler not too long ago, but did not show the photograph.
He also stated that Hitler left Colombia for Argentina around January of 1955.
Citrone.
Imagine he survived 10 fucking years.
That would be so crazy.
tim dillon
It's very possible.
joe rogan
Whoa.
tim dillon
Wow.
I mean, that's kind of Hitler, no?
joe rogan
Whoa.
tim dillon
People used to really dress back then.
unidentified
Whoa.
tim dillon
You know?
People really did dress.
joe rogan
Okay, that.
If that's a formality, if that's a real photo, that's crazy.
Does anybody else run that through AI?
And what is AI doing to achieve that image?
jamie vernon
It could have.
I mean, obviously.
tim dillon
It just got really good.
jamie vernon
Yeah, for plausible deniability, I would go, it could think it's Hitler and just found a picture of it.
And make it Hitler.
But the other guy doesn't really look like that.
joe rogan
Why is the mustache less defined in the second photo?
Like, it looks like shit.
He would be like, this is not how they do.
tim dillon
He's very young there, Hitler.
Right.
Hitler looks great there.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, he's getting that Argentinian beef.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Probably a lot of, you know, adrenochrome down there, too.
tim dillon
I mean, this is one of those situations where it's like...
joe rogan
Let me zoom in on the face again.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
I don't even know what kind of chair it would be.
It's kind of, it's so strange.
joe rogan
I'm not sure if that's really.
It's so hard.
jamie vernon
AI just did this, but it doesn't have to be real.
joe rogan
Right.
tim dillon
We don't know if it's real or not.
jamie vernon
I would go assume it's not.
unidentified
If it is real, Hitler looks great.
joe rogan
The face looks slightly different than Hitler, though, doesn't it?
tim dillon
I guess so.
But I mean, maybe he lost weight.
joe rogan
Maybe just really committing to that mustache because nobody else would.
tim dillon
There's also a chance Hitler was very relaxed in Argentina and kind of Columbia, kind of like the South American way of life, the siestas, kind of a large meal in the middle of the day.
joe rogan
Yeah, go to a photo.
Wow, actually, it does look like him, doesn't it?
It looks a lot like Hitler.
tim dillon
Kind of a retired Hitler who's relaxed.
joe rogan
Yeah, 10 years later.
But he doesn't look 10 years older.
That's the problem with that one.
jamie vernon
I've never been 35, so I don't know if that was from 55.
That'd be 20 years.
unidentified
Right.
tim dillon
He doesn't look 20 years older.
joe rogan
So that speech from 35 up in the left corner.
Yeah.
Isn't it amazing he stuck with that stupid mustache?
Like, why did he have to do that?
tim dillon
But it's his calling card.
It was his thing.
You know, some people just get a thing and it's, you know.
joe rogan
Oh, do you know why they went with that mustache?
No, no, no because the gas masks.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
So if you want to have a seal over your face, so the Nazis were the first to use gas in warfare.
Okay.
And when you have to wear the gas mask, you want a tight seal.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
You can't have a big old fucking handlebar mustache.
tim dillon
That makes sense.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
So he just kept the stash.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
He kept it.
joe rogan
I think that's why he had that mustache.
I think that's the case.
I bet.
Yeah.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you know that that gas was created by Fritz Haber, who also created the Haber method for extracting nitrogen from the air, which is responsible for 50% of the world's fertilizer?
tim dillon
Interesting.
I didn't know that.
Is that called the Cyclone B or no?
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, Cyclone A was the gas that was originally used where you could smell it.
tim dillon
Yes.
joe rogan
And the idea of the smell was supposed to let you know that this is dangerous.
Get the fuck away from it.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Cyclon B, they took the smell out so that they could gas the Jews.
So this guy created this gas that they were going to use in World War I, and he was being wanted for crimes against humanity.
At the same time, he was going to win a Nobel Prize for creating the Haber method for extracting nitrogen.
Yeah.
50% of the, supposedly 50% of the nitrogen in everyone's body today comes from the Haber method.
tim dillon
Interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
Those stories, crazy.
tim dillon
It's an interesting, it's like two roads diverged in a wood.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
One of them is the fertilizer.
joe rogan
Not only that, he was Jewish.
And so he wound up having to flee because they accepted him at first because, hey, this is the guy that gave us the gas.
And they're like, no, he's a Jew.
And so eventually he had to take off.
And so he died of heart failure while he was fleeing, while he was fleeing the country.
tim dillon
So they made him flee because he was.
joe rogan
Because he was Jewish.
tim dillon
Because he was Jewish.
He wasn't ripping them off on the gas.
It was gouging.
joe rogan
He was gas gouging.
tim dillon
You don't think he was like, I'm the only one that can do this?
I'm the only one.
The margins are reasonable.
joe rogan
Oh, the whole story is crazy.
It is a crazy story.
His wife hated what he was doing, and she committed suicide in front of him.
And she was still alive, but shot herself.
And then he left the wife with his 13-year-old son to go to the front line.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
To fight with the Allies.
joe rogan
Well, to make sure that his gas gets implemented properly with the giant fans.
tim dillon
Oh, interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was the first time they had ever utilized that.
unidentified
Interesting.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And supposedly that's where Hitler developed the love of that mustache.
Because in order to have that gas mask to survive the gas, you have to have a tight seal on your face.
tim dillon
It's such a these little snapshots into, you know, just like, again, from a mustache to the gas mask, it's so crazy.
The little snapshots.
jamie vernon
I claim he used a fake name, but his first name is still Adolph.
Wouldn't you not do that?
Better name.
joe rogan
He used a false identity with Citron specified as Adolph Schrittelmaier.
His account was supported by a photograph taken by the residents.
Yeah, but the problem is when you change your first name, everybody forgets.
If all of a sudden you became Mark, and I was like, oh, sorry, Tim.
It's too complicated.
But if you became Tim Wilson, I'm like, oh, you just changed your last name.
That's not Tim Dillon.
That's Tim Wilson.
And 242.
You get a new head.
You get a new head like the Osborne girl.
tim dillon
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you could just blend right in.
tim dillon
I'd go to Peter Thiel's Satan conference with a whole new head.
joe rogan
There you go.
tim dillon
He doesn't know who it is.
joe rogan
Never know.
tim dillon
He doesn't know who's sitting there for a while.
joe rogan
You should go and wear a burqa.
tim dillon
I should go to the Peter Thiel Satan lecture in a burqa.
joe rogan
Well, you can't get in.
It's sold out.
tim dillon
It's sold out and it's private.
joe rogan
Well, imagine buying a ticket to that.
Like, what do you want to do?
You want to go to the movies?
No.
You want to go see a concert?
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Peter Thiel's giving a lecture on the Antichrist.
tim dillon
It's clearly such a...
It's clearly such a, you know, odd attempt at positioning whatever you want to do.
unidentified
It's like, we're going to, you know, we're trying to fight the Antichrist.
joe rogan
This is what I think he's doing.
He has very esoteric interests, and this is just one of them.
Like, if you're worth that amount of money and you're just really into weird stuff, like, I don't know why he brought me over the house to meet Eric von Daniken, but I was not that influential back then.
I was not someone that you would have on the radar as being the guy who is going to affect presidential campaigns.
Yeah.
I was the MMA commentator who's a dirty comedian who talks shit on the internet.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
Like, that was it.
And I had had Eric on my podcast before, and that's how Eric and I became friends.
And he knew that I had a deep interest.
And I've read Von Daniken's book.
I've watched his documentary.
And I know that a lot of that stuff has been debunked.
And that's one of the reasons why they wanted to bring me over to ask him questions.
And, you know, Von Daniken is a true believer of a lot of that stuff.
And I used to think he was totally wrong.
And now I don't.
Like, if I interviewed him again today, I would have a different perspective.
Because I used to think that the idea that we were visited by ancient aliens and that aliens helped them build the pyramids and all this stuff.
I just think that's all silly.
What's really going on is there was a collapse of a very sophisticated civilization because of some sort of cataclysmic disaster.
And then we're trying to make sense of this without an understanding of what their technology was.
Now, I think both might be true.
tim dillon
Well, yeah, and it seems there's more interest now in the UAP phenomenon than there's ever been.
joe rogan
There's a lot of that, but I also think that's because, look, if you've been in charge of back engineering spaceships, so you've been in charge of lying to Congress and misappropriating funds in order to have the amount of money that you would need to do this stuff.
And then through all of this, you've achieved substantial gains in whether it's fiber optics or whatever the technology that you've back engineered or you figured out how to make something that's like completely spectacular.
You're in a situation where as transparency becomes more and more of the norm, like one of the things that's going to happen with AI and then most certainly with quantum computing is all decryption, all encryption, all hiding, all that stuff goes away.
It becomes a real problem with resources because almost all money is just ones and zeros.
So like who's got access to it?
Who does it?
It's going to be nuts.
Like solving all that's going to be nuts.
But also hiding information is going to be virtually impossible.
And If there's people that know eventually at one point in time, they're going to have to pay the toll.
Right.
So we've got to get ahead of this.
And the best way to get ahead of this is like this age of disclosure documentary.
One of the things that all these spooks, all these like former, former, you know, deep, deep state guys who are now whistleblowers.
I'm doing air quotes of my former for people just listening.
They all talk about amnesty.
This is the secret to all this stuff.
The secret to the only way you're going to be able to do all this is you got to give amnesty for all the people that committed all these crimes because the general public needs to know that this stuff exists.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So I don't know if that's the case, but I do know the historical accounts of us being visited are very consistent and they've been going on forever.
I have no experience.
I have nothing.
I've never seen anything that crazy, except on subscriptions on a few things.
But not sober.
I've never seen anything.
Right.
So I'm just, it's all anecdotal to me.
I've never held a piece of something that I'm like, oh my God, this is from another world.
But my friend Jesse Michaels just went down to Peru and they did all these medical scans of these tridactyl mummies and they're not they're not fake.
Whatever the fuck these things are in the fetal position, they have all the ligaments and tendons.
Their heads are huge.
They look like a fucking alien.
They have three fingers and three toes and there's a few of them.
They're like three feet tall and these things are 1,700 years old and they look exactly like all these things that people claim to see when they get abducted by aliens.
Not only that, they're in Peru, which is the home of many of these monolithic, huge megastructure sites like Machu Picchu and a lot of the legends come out of there too.
Yeah, well, also the Nazca lines, like immense artwork that you could only see from the sky.
Also, all their artwork, like they have ancient artwork depicting three-fingered, three-toed beings with big heads and big eyes.
What the fuck is all this stuff?
tim dillon
It's got to be something.
joe rogan
It's got to be something.
And so my approach to that, because I go, Jamie and I just talked about this yesterday.
We go back and forth and back and forth on the alien thing.
I think some of it's probably real.
And I think it might be where this, where Egypt springs from, where the sub-Saharan, sub-Saharan, sub-Saharan Africa, like this, this whole thing where they think that maybe that was the center of Atlantis.
That was.
Right.
Why were they so much more sophisticated than anybody else?
How did they develop these kind of, how old are these goddamn structures?
No one really knows.
They're just guessing.
It's because it's stone.
tim dillon
Why does it feel like right now there seems to be a renewed interest in this stuff?
Is it just the technology?
Is it the internet?
There are more people.
There's more documentaries.
unidentified
There's more pop culture for UAP stuff.
Yeah.
tim dillon
Are we ahead of some kind of disclosure or are we, are we, are we, what are we, what is the, why is this happening now?
joe rogan
Well, I think the New York Times in 2017 opened the dam.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
That was the big thing.
When they published on the front page of the New York Times this story about UAPs with credible accounts.
You know, I had Gary Nolan on the podcast recently, and one of the things that he said is they have radar of that Tic Tac thing from 2004 where it goes from sea level to 50,000 feet in less than a second.
He said, assuming this thing weighed two tons, which is like, you know, a regular car, it would take all of the energy that the United States produces in a year to achieve that.
To go that fast with a 4,000-pound thing to go from zero to 50,000 feet in less than a second.
That's how much energy it would take to do that.
That's real.
tim dillon
It's real, yet.
joe rogan
No, that's what's weird.
That's radar.
tim dillon
And you've had Ross Caulford on that guy?
joe rogan
No, I have not.
tim dillon
He's an interesting guy from Australia.
They talk about stuff like this.
And it's just, I can, you know, what's really hard about this stuff is you can never like, it's a nebulous.
You know?
joe rogan
Exactly.
tim dillon
Because like, we can talk about the CIA.
We can talk about all these things that are provable and exist.
And there's names and dates and things.
And you could go, they manufactured this or they.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
With this stuff, we're talking about government agencies without a name or a name that's unknown to us.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
In locales we've never been.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tim dillon
In underground cities.
It's all very speculative for my taste.
I don't doubt that some level of it happens, obviously.
But we're talking about, I don't know how to even approach it.
There's so many people talking about it that probably have no idea what they're talking about.
It's so hard.
joe rogan
A lot of schizophrenics involved.
tim dillon
A lot of schizophrenics.
joe rogan
A lot of people that are just complete scam artists that are lying about having been abducted.
There's a lot of ego involved.
People want to be special.
They want to be the type of person that the aliens are really interested in.
tim dillon
It's hard.
joe rogan
It's hard.
And again, with no personal experience.
But then when you talk to people that have had personal experiences, it's very odd how compelling they are.
tim dillon
I bet.
joe rogan
And they don't seem kooky.
Like I talked to this guy, Travis Walton, who was abducted in the 1970s in the forests of Arizona.
He doesn't seem crazy, man.
He doesn't seem like a liar.
tim dillon
I bet he's not.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Bob Lazar doesn't seem crazy, doesn't seem like a liar.
And not only that, but a lot of things that Bob Lazar said turned out to be true.
In, I think it was 1989 when George Knapp first interviewed him on television.
He was hiding his face, but he was talking about Area S4.
Area 51 wasn't even confirmed back then.
That wasn't something that they really confirmed.
The government didn't confirm it until they tried to expand the boundaries of Area 51 in the Obama administration because too many people were going out there and filming things.
So they had to go, no, the place where you can't go is way further because you fucking assholes have good telescopes.
So he was talking about something that was completely unknown to the general public because it wasn't even just Area 51.
It was Site 4.
It was S4.
And he talked about this place that now we know for sure they were doing these black ops, these black funded programs where they were creating military vehicles and they were flying people in and out of that area.
tim dillon
And who's doing it?
This is a level of, we would imagine this is like military intelligence that is not no oversight.
No oversight.
joe rogan
Yeah, no oversight.
tim dillon
President really doesn't know.
Congress doesn't know.
joe rogan
Have you ever listened to the, you ever watched the Jeremy Corbel documentary on Lazar?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
You should watch it.
tim dillon
I would like to.
joe rogan
Fucking crazy.
tim dillon
Where is it?
joe rogan
It's on Amazon, Netflix.
It's on probably all those places.
tim dillon
Because that's the thing about me.
It's like Congress doesn't know.
President doesn't know.
And then there's a lot of CIA stuff where they don't know about this.
But this feels like another subterranean layer that very few people know anything about.
joe rogan
And the way you're going to get these things done.
Like if you do have something, you have to back engineer it.
Well, who do you bring in?
Well, you bring military contractors in because they make jets.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
They make spaceships.
tim dillon
That's right.
joe rogan
Those are the people you bring in.
You're not going to just get your.
tim dillon
And they sign a bunch of documents and they don't say anything and they're surveilled to make sure they don't say anything.
joe rogan
Exactly.
tim dillon
And if they say something, you kill them.
joe rogan
So the Lazar story was he was, he worked for fucking, what is the lab in New Mexico?
What's that place that, why am I forgetting the name?
The place that Lazar worked for in New Mexico?
God damn it.
tim dillon
Los Alamos?
joe rogan
Yes, thank you.
Yeah.
Why am I forgetting that?
So he worked at Los Alamos Labs.
They denied that he worked there, but he was actually on the employee roster.
And there's articles in New Mexico and one of the local newspapers about Lazar being a genius who put a jet engine on the back of a Honda.
Like he was a crazy propulsions guy.
That was what he was interested in.
Clearly a brilliant guy.
When you talk to him, when you listen to him talk, clearly brilliant.
And so they brought him to Area S4 and they said, figure this thing out.
And they had this spaceship that was sitting in a hangar.
And they had an American flag sticker on it.
And he said his initial thought was, oh, that's what's going on.
So all these people that are seeing this thing, this is ours.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
It's okay.
It makes sense.
Then he started looking around it.
And he started getting, first of all, he said it was 3D printed or something because it didn't have any seams.
And then it's not designed for human beings.
It's designed for something that's three feet tall and it doesn't have any controls inside of it.
So there's some sort of a connection between the mind of whatever the fuck is running it and this thing.
And then it had some very bizarre generator inside of it that he said used an element that was unknown.
This element was called element 115.
They have a stable version of this element.
They bombard it with radiation and it creates this sort of gravity warp that allows it to bend space and time instead of using a traditional propulsion system.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
So they didn't even, this element wasn't even proven until somewhere in the 2000s with the Large Hadron Collider.
So they got a very glimpse of this element.
So now this element is a real element, but we don't have a stable version of it.
But supposedly Lazar did.
And one of the things that they allege is that he escaped Area S4 with a piece of this stuff, a piece of this stable element.
And then he's been hiding this forever.
So one of the things he did with George Knapp was he made a video demonstrating how this element bends space and time around.
tim dillon
Right.
joe rogan
And it's like.
tim dillon
I got to watch that talking.
It is interesting.
It's the one area I've never gotten super into.
It's very difficult.
joe rogan
The Corbell documentary is excellent.
It's very difficult.
It got me way back into UFOs.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I was ready to dismiss him again.
tim dillon
I'm like, I'm ready to leave.
joe rogan
I'm back.
But that's what supposedly it looks like.
That thing right there on the desk.
tim dillon
Yeah, that makes sense.
joe rogan
That's the sport craft.
unidentified
And that's what transported Hitler to Argentina.
joe rogan
Well, that's where it gets weird, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because the Nazis were very interested in advanced technology.
tim dillon
They were very interested in it.
joe rogan
They were into the occult.
Yeah.
tim dillon
All of these big constellations of power are interested in the occult.
unidentified
Why is that?
tim dillon
No idea.
joe rogan
Probably because they feel like that evil and good are real things.
tim dillon
And that they can, well, for sure.
And I also think that they try to try to, they're interested in sources of power.
That seems to be something they're interested in, sources of power.
joe rogan
Yeah, and back in the 40s, people still believed in witches.
unidentified
They probably completely believed that there was sorcery was real.
joe rogan
That's right.
Some way to use spells and powers.
And if you're trying to run the world like the Nazis were, and you're on meth.
You're on meth, too.
tim dillon
You're on meth and you're trying to run the world.
You know?
That's amazing.
They had no idea that it was just all of the stuff, the witches and everything they believed, it was just so that Kris Jenner could get a third hat.
unidentified
All right, should we wrap this up?
tim dillon
Thank you so much.
joe rogan
As always, brother, it's the most fun.
Hang with you.
tim dillon
I'll see you tonight.
joe rogan
Yes, we're going to have fun tonight at the club.
That should be a good time.
unidentified
Awesome.
joe rogan
Ron White's going to be there.
Yes, love it.
We're going to party.
unidentified
We're going to have fun.
joe rogan
Yes, sir.
tim dillon
Thank you again.
unidentified
My pleasure.
joe rogan
We'll talk soon.
unidentified
All right.
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