Aug. 14, 2025 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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The Joe Rogan Experience. | |
| Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day. | ||
| Good? | ||
| We're up. | ||
| We're up. | ||
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What? | |
| We're back. | ||
| It's just like getting pulled over by the cops. | ||
| The window rolls down. | ||
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The cops are like, what the fuck are you doing? | |
| Shit. | ||
| Joe, I took one hit of that shit. | ||
| Actually, it was strong as a hip hop already. | ||
| That's good for you, dude. | ||
| It's good for you. | ||
| Open your mind. | ||
| It's the right stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's some talk about Trump legalizing. | ||
| I'd love to see Trump legalize marijuana now. | ||
| That would be amazing. | ||
| It kind of feels like it is legal right now. | ||
| Well, it should be. | ||
| It's so stupid. | ||
| It's so I can't believe we're still dealing with this. | ||
| I mean, I would have thought by the time I just turned 58. | ||
| I would have thought by the time I'm 58, we would have figured this out. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Can I tell you, when I with my ulcerative colitis, it always we always thought with my ass for some reason. | ||
| But with my ulcerative colitis, after my colonoscopy one time, the doctor's like, well, there's this pill you could take. | ||
| It could affect your liver, but not for many years. | ||
| Like, not for No, this was when I was like 39. | ||
| I'm 51 now. | ||
| I would be I'd be going to Columbia for stem cells from my fucking liver at this point. | ||
| So what I do is the natural stuff and it does help me. | ||
| It just helps and I don't have to if that's not fucking with my liver. | ||
| It would take the place of so many different pharmaceutical drugs and that's a big part of the problem. | ||
| The other part of the problem is the alcohol industry. | ||
| Oh yeah, that would suffer for sure, right? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| And they've done studies. | ||
| They know. | ||
| They lobby. | ||
| They they they work on it hard. | ||
| They do not want marijuana becoming legalized in the in the whole nation. | ||
| Alcohol's way worse. | ||
| I mean, way worse. | ||
| An age-old conversation, but well, the real big problem is who's selling if. | ||
| it's illegal? | ||
| The cartels. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| You know, I've talked about this before. | ||
| If you've heard it before, I'm sorry. | ||
| But there's a guy named John Norris who's been on the podcast before, who was a game warden. | ||
| He wrote a book called Hidden War. | ||
| He was a game warden in California. | ||
| You know, just the guy that checks fishing licenses and shit. | ||
| He loves the woods, loves being outdoors. | ||
| He came in and brought a fucking cartel grow op in the middle of the National Forest. | ||
| And then they realize, oh, no, this is what they do. | ||
| They go deep into the woods and public land and they set up a grow op and they got fucking AKs and they got, you know, the Virgin Mary photos, what they pray to at night. | ||
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It's crazy. | |
| Like full on camp sites filled with cartel dudes. | ||
| They started turning into a tactical team. | ||
| So this guy had to get Belgian malamois and bulletproof vests and they're getting shootouts with the cartels in the middle of the woods. | ||
| I thought he was signing up to be a park ranger and he's like, No shit. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Hear people's fish stories. | ||
| Like, how did you get this one? | ||
| You know, no, he's fucking getting shootouts. | ||
| Because damn cartels. | ||
| So damn. | ||
| When California made their laws where you could have legalized recreational marijuana, what they also did was if you grow it illegally, it's only a misdemeanor. | ||
| So the cartel could just grow. | ||
| in the cartel. | ||
| It's a misdemeanor. | ||
| It's a misdemeanor. | ||
| And if they catch people that are illegal up there, they don't do shit. | ||
| So it's the perfect spawning ground for cartel grow-ups. | ||
| And what he was saying at the time he was here, which was a couple of years back, but he was saying that it was as much as 80% of the marijuana, I think, that was the number in the country in places where it's illegal is coming from these dudes. | ||
| And they're using all these crazy pesticides and herbs that are totally illegal, fucking super toxic shit. | ||
| Shit that's outlawed on farms in America, but it's effective. | ||
| And so they're using it. | ||
| So you're getting this weed that's infected with these pesticides and herbicides. | ||
| There's no rules, man. | ||
| It's illegal weed. | ||
| If they had it legal, you could have inspectors who could check the fucking farms and the factories. | ||
| It'd be just like alcohol. | ||
| If alcohol was illegal, we'd all be fucked. | ||
| We'd be drinking moonshine. | ||
| No one would know, you know what I mean? | ||
| Nice glass of wine. | ||
| You're drinking fucking straight up alcohol. | ||
| Nasty shit. | ||
| Because that's all that's available. | ||
| And that's what people are doing right now. | ||
| It's dumb. | ||
| It empowers the people that are criminals. | ||
| Well, you said it before. | ||
| It's the money. | ||
| They're going to affect the big pharma. | ||
| And we all have seen from COVID what the hell kind of power big pharma has. | ||
| Yeah, they're worried about it. | ||
| But I think the alcohol people are worried more. | ||
| The alcohol people got us twice. | ||
| They were fighting. | ||
| Remember they fought MMA hard too. | ||
| Budweiser was. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Because of boxing. | ||
| alcohol was illegal in this country. | ||
| You know how crazy that is? | ||
| A grown man telling you you can't have a drink. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Who the fuck? | ||
| The same thing. | ||
| You want to smoke. | ||
| What's the problem with that? | ||
| Exactly the same thing. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| Exactly the same thing. | ||
| We're just delusional about it. | ||
| And we put it under the label drug, which is alcohol. | ||
| Alcohol is a drug dummy. | ||
| It's a world drug. | ||
| Everything's a drug. | ||
| There's a lot of drugs. | ||
| Coffee is a drug. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Exactly. | ||
| We're drinking espresso. | ||
| We just stop it. | ||
| It's just knowing how to use each drug. | ||
| And the only way you know how to use it is if people are honest. | ||
| And if they do studies. | ||
| You have actual scientists who are not being paid to come up with some kind of negative oral positive result. | ||
| You know, that's what it's supposed to be. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| For all of us. | ||
| It's all just fucking co-opted by money. | ||
| No, they have. | ||
| Never heard that. | ||
| Maryland's been food. | ||
| Well, that's good. | ||
| So you've done everything for Maryland. | ||
| By the way, how crazy is that? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Also home of ground control. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Hey guys, I guess I missed the match. | ||
| Matt Sarah. | ||
| This was a total union for 30 years. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Totally union. | ||
| We didn't talk about this at all. | ||
| Well, I saw Matt were his last time and I said, well, that's it. | ||
| The green light. | ||
| I'm shamelessly self-promoting. | ||
| And then Dean came down, I got motherfucker here, I got to go in and he goes, I got to represent, and then you came in with it. | ||
| So that's really what we love to talk about. | ||
| I know, that's crazy. | ||
| I feel like I'm left out of the loop here. | ||
| I wish we had some extra. | ||
| I had an extra one too. | ||
| You know what's so funny? | ||
| I had one that was still in the package, and I was like, should I bring this? | ||
| I'm like, no, I don't need this. | ||
| I think you should have. | ||
| I should have. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| That was like the universe telling me that you needed one of those shirts. | ||
| I ignored it. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| I've been talking about stuff that's good for you, and I've been telling you I've been eating a ton of fucking pizza, and I still got it. | ||
| Oh, here it comes. | ||
| Here it comes. | ||
| Erica, are you safe? | ||
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Yes. | |
| Listen to me. | ||
| Can I tell you I'm talking? | ||
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You're just taking on me. | |
| I can see it in me. | ||
| Can I tell you right now that I'm so proud of this? | ||
| I don't like to brag. | ||
| Dean doesn't. | ||
| I need to know a little bit. | ||
| But on Long Island, we have three champions. | ||
| Four, if you include Mirab, you know, he's adopted by us. | ||
| Chris Wideman has his own day in Long Island. | ||
| Algermaine Sterling. | ||
| has his own day. | ||
| I'm not butt hurt about not having my own day, but I have something better. | ||
| Thank you, Talios, from Asapiqua Park and Mineola. | ||
| I have my own Sarah slice. | ||
| It's the best fucking, it'll knock your dick off. | ||
| It's the best slice. | ||
| I put it up against any slice. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| That you could give me. | ||
| And the reason being, listen. | ||
| Tell Dave Port. | ||
| They import. | ||
| Listen. | ||
| Tell him what you said. | ||
| Is this kid Rob? | ||
| There he is, my buddy Rob. | ||
| Oh, he's talking about it. | ||
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I'm a UFC legend. | |
| I'm going to show you guys how we made the Sarah. | ||
| Our Roman show here. | ||
| We're going to go down with our grande, no moisture, mozzarella. | ||
| This is a very simple piece of. | ||
| So these stripes of our chow tomato sauce imported from Italy. | ||
| Imported from Italy! | ||
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Sea salts, basil, and olive oil. | |
| That is my recipe for my tomato sauce. | ||
| No sugar. | ||
| Stop putting sugar in your sauce. | ||
| And we have our beautiful homemade vodka sauce. | ||
| Dude. | ||
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We make it with Nojito di Parma. | |
| I'm getting the horn on! | ||
| Matt, tell him. | ||
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Tell him. | |
| This is the Sarah Pizza. | ||
| Tell him where the dough comes from, Matt. | ||
| He's going to say it. | ||
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It's downward so. | |
| Caputo. | ||
| Caputo flour from Italy. | ||
| No Bromate. | ||
| No preservatives. | ||
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Sicilian oregano. | |
| We have some beautiful fiordi latte fresh months around. | ||
| Come on, come on, man. | ||
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I just like to break it up. | |
| Just wait for the fucking pestle. | ||
| Wait for the pestle. | ||
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The Sierra, super simple. | |
| Going in the oven. | ||
| About eight minutes. | ||
| Look at this fucking thing. | ||
| Look at this fucking thing. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| This is one of the best advertisements for carbs I've ever seen. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
| No doubt. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I tell you, this is the only green I eat. | ||
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It's beautiful. | |
| I eat that fucking green. | ||
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Pecorino. | |
| Ready? | ||
| Oh, the money shot! | ||
| Oh, the fucking go, Rob! | ||
| The pesto. | ||
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Take a bite. | |
| Guys, I'm so proud. | ||
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Sarah, come get it now. | |
| Both locations. | ||
| All your pizza. | ||
| Thank you, Ray. | ||
| It's the first time you'll ever see a man's mouth shut. | ||
| I'm so happy. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| It's a joke. | ||
| Yeah, you gotta go to the store. | ||
| Why you didn't bring us none? | ||
| Dude, can I tell you, I'm there all the fucking time. | ||
| My podcast I'm doing, I found the first shop near Mineola train station, and I'm like... | ||
| And then the guy happens to be a fan of the fighting Rob. | ||
| So then he's like, look, I'm opening up another spot, dude, in Mass of Peakwood Park. | ||
| Dude, that's five minutes from my house. | ||
| house. | ||
| This is meant to be. | ||
| It's fucking meant to be. | ||
| And now he's training now, Rob. | ||
| So that's awesome. | ||
| Italios pizza, the G is silent like lasagna. | ||
| And I'm just, I'm so happy. | ||
| That's the number one problem with any of that carnivore diet bullshit. | ||
| That's the number one, the number one problem is pizza. | ||
| Oh, right. | ||
| Yeah, no doubt. | ||
| Italian subs. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He was telling me that it's not even legal in Europe to have the bromate. | ||
| I didn't know what the bromate was. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He goes, it's stuff they put in the, in the, the dough to make it last longer and this and that. | ||
| This kid has such balls where he's sort of an important. | ||
| It's twice as much for a flower caputa. | ||
| I know a lot about it. | ||
| Espresso tells me the whole thing. | ||
| You feel different if you eat that flour. | ||
| I'll eat this shit on the way to go train at my school. | ||
| And I'm not doing that with Pietro's no offense. | ||
| I'm not doing that with others. | ||
| He has a, it's so good. | ||
| Potassium bromate, a flour additive used to strengthen dough, may have potential health risks. | ||
| While it's legal in the U.S., it's banned in many other countries due to concerns about its potential carcinogenic effects. | ||
| Studies have linked it to kidney and thyroid cancers in animals. | ||
| Well, fucking, duh. | ||
| And it's been associated with genotoxic and nephrotoxic effects in both animal models and humans, acute symptoms from ingestion can include nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, and abdominal pain. | ||
| They put this in our flour, dude. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| It causes changes in DNA and potentially lead to mutations. | ||
| Guys, what the fuck? | ||
| I'm telling you, man. | ||
| Look at that fucking statement. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| Dude, that's why, man. | ||
| I didn't notice its place at the end. | ||
| Give these kids so much credit. | ||
| Nobody does this. | ||
| People can't get that far. | ||
| They can't import the flour. | ||
| It's just more, but this kid's killing it. | ||
| And it's such a difference, man. | ||
| They say when you go to Italy and you come back and you're eating all that shit and you come back you're not fat. | ||
| It's that shit. | ||
| It's the flour, man. | ||
| And he makes the heroes out of the same flour. | ||
| Jamie, do you remember that video that I sent you about that dude breaking down exactly what's in flour and why it fucks us up? | ||
| Do you remember that video? | ||
| You'll find it. | ||
| The dude with the hat on, who's the health expert, is a young guy. | ||
| And he does an amazing job of breaking down the difference between our flour and their flour. | ||
| And you see, you get so upset. | ||
| You're like, this is so crazy you guys let them do this to us. | ||
| Yeah, it's forbidden in other countries, but legal here. | ||
| How's that possible? | ||
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It's crazy. | |
| You'd think, why are we putting up with this shit?. | ||
| Why? | ||
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Why? | |
| Yeah, why would it be? | ||
| It's because it's slow poison. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not like alcohol is like, whoa, you feel it the next day, like, oh my god. | ||
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Pizza is just a slow poison. | |
| Slow poison with the poisoned dough. | ||
| It weighs you down. | ||
| It would weigh you down. | ||
| It would be just as good, just as good in terms of how you feel when you eat it, just as good flavor wise, just not fucking kill you. | ||
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Explain to me why I can eat bread in Spain and in, I can in Greece, Italy, no problem. | |
| Why? | ||
| I was gluten free in fifteen years I've been gluten free in Canada, America, can't eat it. | ||
| That's because in America what we call bread can't even be considered food in parts of Europe. | ||
| See here in America, it's not so much the gluten as what we've done to the grain. | ||
| About two hundred years ago, we started stripping the bran and germ, or the fiber and nutrients, to make the flour shelf stable, also nutritionally dead. | ||
| Because the nutrients were gone, we enriched it with folic acid, which a large majority of the population can't even metabolize, therefore many people experience fatigue, anxiety, hyperactivity, and inflammation. | ||
| But then the bread wasn't white enough, so they bleached it with chlorine gas, and the bread didn't rise enough, so they added a carcinogen called potassium bromate, which is banned in several countries like Europe, the UK, and even China. | ||
| Then we wanted to ramp up production, so we started using glyphosate to dry out the wheat before harvest, causing endocrine disruption and damaging your gut. | ||
| So now you're bloated, brain fog, tired, and blamed gluten, but gluten is just the scapegoat. | ||
| The real issue is ultra-processed, chemically altered, bleached, bromated, fake vitamin-filled wheat, soaked in glyphosate. | ||
| This isn't bread. | ||
| This is. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| That's wow. | ||
| He's got a neon sign up in his thing. | ||
| No bleach, no bromate. | ||
| That's amazing. | ||
| Dude, I got fucking abs still and I can eat pizza. | ||
| It's like heaven. | ||
| He's at the right time now, too, because people are starting to be made aware. | ||
| Yeah, and you can blame it on gluten all you want, but go eat pizza in Italy. | ||
| Give it a chance. | ||
| You feel good. | ||
| It's like I'm doing that every day. | ||
| Pasta there. | ||
| Yeah, the pasta there's incredible. | ||
| There's a few places you know how to catch it on. | ||
| How I cheat here on pasta, like back home, Deep Esqualies is the big Italian spot and they have, you can get ricotta gnocchis. | ||
| So they're made with ricotta cheese and it's like maybe five grams of carbs in a thing of gnocchi. | ||
| Yeah, you could cheat it out, but if you really want to get fucking blasted with some carbs, lasagne will do you in. | ||
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Oh, yeah, son. | |
| Lasagne will do you in. | ||
| Oh, my God. | ||
| There's something about Italian food, when I'm really hungry, I just can't help it. | ||
| I don't care about my my diet. | ||
| The sauces and all that stuff. | ||
| Yeah, it gets you. | ||
| You know, Joe DeRosa, the comedian. | ||
| Yeah, he comes to me. | ||
| He's a comedian. | ||
| Yeah, we're fucking ourself. | ||
| And the fact that it's illegal in China and all these other places, like how would they we're more corrupt than them. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| I mean, that was part of it too. | ||
| When you talk about the trade imbalances, some of our food not being able to go over there was just the fact that they wouldn't allow the food to go over there. | ||
| Because it's not even food to them. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| It's not even legal that bromate and shit. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's fucking crazy. | ||
| It's fucked up that we're feeding that to our kids. | ||
| And these regulators knew about it. | ||
| They knew about it for a long time. | ||
| And they, if you're in that business, if that's your business, you fucking know what's going on. | ||
| And you guys let them just do that to people for profit, because they can make more money this way. | ||
| But also, there's a problem with feeding fucking 300 million people. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's a problem. | ||
| Any disruptions to the food source is a fucking dangerous thing because no one's growing shit. | ||
| You know? | ||
| We're all relying on someone else to do the growing work. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then what are we doing? | ||
| We're fucking going to these farms and catching all the people that are doing the work and then deporting them. | ||
| Which is like, whoa. | ||
| We need it. | ||
| We need that. | ||
| Bro, we can't do anything right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| We can't do anything right. | ||
| Be a little fair about the Bromate stuff. | ||
| It's been used since 1923 and the FDA has been telling people to stop using it since 1991. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| They would tell people to stop using it, but they didn't tell them they have to stop using it. | ||
| Well, they urge people. | ||
| It's up to people to do whatever they want in America. | ||
| But in America, is it the only place that uses it? | ||
| I don't know about only. | ||
| I think they said Canada. | ||
| Yeah, Canada. | ||
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Canada. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| They like our little brother. | ||
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Yeah. | |
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| That's our little cousin that we're like, I got to hang out with at fucking family weddings. | ||
| You know, that one cousin? | ||
| And he text you later and you're like, Jesus. | ||
| We all got that one cousin, right? | ||
| He's just like, yo, bam. | ||
| He wants to talk to you about communist theory. | ||
| Like, come on, you fuck. | ||
| Yeah, relax. | ||
| They're fine people for walking in the woods. | ||
| You hear about that? | ||
| Where? | ||
| In Saskatchewan, is that where it is, Jamie? | ||
| Walking in the woods? | ||
| Yeah, this guy got fined. | ||
| They told you that if you get caught in the woods because it's so hot outside, they're worried about wildfires. | ||
| There's no wildfires, but they're worried about wildfires. | ||
| Every year you worry about wildfires. | ||
| So to combat this, they're fine people 28,000 dollars to walk in the woods. | ||
| That's a lot of money. | ||
| One guy did it, one guy's like, Fuck you, I'm going to the woods. | ||
| And then he went viral, of course. | ||
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Man. | |
| Which is a good move. | ||
| Probably. | ||
| What's going on in Islamic Bay? | ||
| I mean, it's a 28,000 dollar move. | ||
| They're putting thousands of people in jail for social media posts. | ||
| Oh yeah, no, banana stuff. | ||
| These fuggits skitting everybody's going communist. | ||
| Yeah, one one person put this Facebook post or something like that critical of immigrants and saying they come over here and rape and murder our women. | ||
| And because of putting that up on Facebook, this person got 20 months in jail. | ||
| Absolutely. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| 20 months. | ||
| That was way in the UK. | ||
| In the UK. | ||
| It's fucking really easy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| A bunch of sensitive pussies. | ||
| They arrested. | ||
| My friend Constantine Kissin from Trigonometry, the podcast. | ||
| He's the one that first told me about all this because he had this conversationation with this guy where he said, how many people do you think get arrested for social media posts in Russia? | ||
| And, you know, he tells them what the number is. | ||
| It's like about 400. | ||
| Like, whoa, wow. | ||
| It was, how many people do you think get arrested for social media posts in the UK? | ||
| And the guy was like, what? | ||
| It was like, it's 4,000. | ||
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Damn. | |
| It's true. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, what would the charge be for posting something? | ||
| don't have freedom of speech like we do. | ||
| Dude, I actually saw like a police cam video where the fucking... | ||
| Like, what the fuck do you mean? | ||
| I'm going to jail because my post offended someone someone? | ||
| Get the fuck out of here. | ||
| A man, what is this, Jamie? | ||
| A man has been jailed for Facebook posts encouraging violence. | ||
| He's been jailed for 20 months for encouraging people on social media to attack a hotel in Leeds housing more than 200 migrants. | ||
| So is this the same guy, Jamie? | ||
| I googled man jailed in UK for Facebook posts 20 months. | ||
| This is what came up. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Well, that's good. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| That's funny. | ||
| That's what they want you to see. | ||
| Oh, he's talking about violence. | ||
| Well. | ||
| No, but I'm not sure. | ||
| I mean, maybe he was talking about violence. | ||
| I mean, this guy obviously was. | ||
| I was in the wagers. | ||
| There were more. | ||
| Where the whatever the guy with the wig is. | ||
| What are they what are they called over there? | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| They wear the wig. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If you could find the video, Jimmy, the guy's full on wearing the wig. | ||
| A wig like a George Washington wig. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| And so he reads the Facebook post that this guy made, you know, which wasn't nice. | ||
| But then, you know, then he says, like, for this egregious crime, I sentence you to twenty months of detention. | ||
| And even the wording they use is weird. | ||
| It wasn't like detention. | ||
| It was like a weird euphemism for fucking jail. | ||
| He's on time out. | ||
| Yeah, time out. | ||
| It was weird listening to him talk. | ||
| It's super dystopian. | ||
| He's got a custodial sentence and he only has to serve half of it. | ||
| Oh, so then he has to serve 10 months in a prison for making a post. | ||
| For making a post on Facebook. | ||
| Can you find the video, Jamie? | ||
| Well, I'm sure. | ||
| Find the video because it's kind of funny when you see the guy's wig like they have to wear the wig that's like the move over there the old school powdered wig wasn't it back in the day didn't they used to wear them to hide shit from no it was syphilis oh no wait yeah they were yeah that's where the term big wig comes from because the richest people got the biggest wigs they all got syphilis so this is what happened they came over to America, right, when the, like, in the 1492 days? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When they came back, they brought syphilis. | ||
| And syphilis just going rampant through these European cultures. | ||
| And these people had to. | ||
| So syphilis came from here and then went back there? | ||
| This is the thought. | ||
| So there's different types of syphilis, but they're pretty sure there's some evidence that indicates that one type of syphilis was transferred from Native American populations to Europeans. | ||
| Native Americans who had already had a resistance to it just like we had a resistance to smallpox and the flu when the Europeans came over here. | ||
| And that's what the Indians did, and that's why they got wiped out. | ||
| Well, they didn't have a resistance to this kind of syphilis. | ||
| This is like a hole in your face, your fucking, your hair falls out. | ||
| This is the guy. | ||
| Listen to this motherfucker. | ||
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You did not want your money going to immigrants who, quote, rape our kids and get priority, end quote. | |
| This offence is so serious that an immediate custodial sentence is unavoidable. | ||
| Would you stand, please? | ||
| The sentence that I passed has been reduced by one third to reflect your guilty plea. | ||
| The sentence is one of twenty months' imprisonment. | ||
| So you didn't do it. | ||
| This guy said he didn't want his money going to immigrants and went to jail. | ||
| This wasn't someone threatening violence. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| They edited the post so we don't know what it was. | ||
| Right, there was an edit. | ||
| I was going to point that out. | ||
| There was a there's something there. | ||
| So this Here's the thing too. | ||
| Whenever it's possible for something like this to exist, whenever it's possible, there's going to be a bunch of people from other countries that edit stuff to make you more mad at the people in the UK. | ||
| Like there's there's they're doing China does that in America. | ||
| There's a lot going on with social media and these kind of clips and posts and stuff. | ||
| There's a lot more going on than makes sense. | ||
| People always bitch about America, but look at that shit. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| They're not locking anybody up over here yet. | ||
| You can't bitch about America in comparison. | ||
| If you, if you, if you, the whole rest of the world is way worse in terms of what you're, how you're able to express yourself, the consequences of expressing yourself. | ||
| Like, this is a pretty good spot. | ||
| It's just not perfect. | ||
| It's a cool thing. | ||
| It feels weird now that it's like the younger generation. | ||
| Like people are like, you wear an American shirt, they just think you're a fucking MAGA guy or something. | ||
| It's like, dude, you can't be pro proud of where you're from, from America. | ||
| You can't be proud of your country. | ||
| America is everything. | ||
| It's all the things. | ||
| You know, it's just we're so tribalized and we have to get over that. | ||
| That's the number one problem is people decide that those people that they hate and they hate everything about them and then, okay, now you got fifty percent of the country that you can't associate with that's not on your team. | ||
| Like, what did you do? | ||
| And so, well, now you have to justify everything your team believes in, including shit that doesn't make any sense and shit that is probably immoral, you know, especially when you get into like trans kid surgeries and shit like that. | ||
| to sign off on that because if you don't then you're signing off on these right-wing bigots that want to fucking you know put the bible in every yeah you get you're a nazi it's like we're it's bad both both fucking versions are bad of both sides when you're looking at it from the other side because it's all cartoonish because most people live in the middle of shit yeah i mean i feel that's 100 true most people are in the middle i think you made like the point you made earlier | ||
| too, you're getting just just fired through the algorithm, you know, the shit that pisses you off. | ||
| That's what you're clicking on all day long anyway. | ||
| So it just drives that wedge deeper and deeper I think because we're just inundated 24/7. | ||
| Like sometimes you just gotta stop and get outside or watch a TV show to depress. | ||
| That's the fucking problem though. | ||
| You can't even enjoy I man, what they did with Star Wars with the Acryolite. | ||
| You can't even enjoy. | ||
| You can't even enjoy. | ||
| You can't enjoy. | ||
| I love the pop culture. | ||
| I love movies. | ||
| I tried to watch The Electric State, that fucking thing, because I love robots going fucking rogue and AI. | ||
| I like The Electric State. | ||
| It's a Netflix movie with Chris Pratt and it looked like a big budget. | ||
| It was by the Russo brothers who did the Avengers and shit. | ||
| So like, I know it's about AI, robots. | ||
| What a dude, what a piece of shit. | ||
| I couldn't even get through the opening and then i know what i don't like i don't like when i'm watching a movie and already i see okay i know who the director voted for right like you know what i mean they're like you're bringing up the uprising of the robots and they go and to celebrate the uh enslavement of the robots Kid Rock did a concert to, oh, did he really? | ||
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Did he really? | |
| You fucking assholes. | ||
| Okay, you're on that side. | ||
| Go fuck. | ||
| I turned it off. | ||
| You're bringing me right out of it because you're showing me like, you're taking shots for the audience to know. | ||
| Dude, fuck off. | ||
| I want to see, I want to be entertained. | ||
| I don't want to know about your fucking politics. | ||
| I feel like we have political fatigue though. | ||
| I feel like most people are tired of talking about it. | ||
| Most people are like, just stop. | ||
| That's where I'm at. | ||
| I don't want to talk about the shit ever. | ||
| It's also, it's like pretending that one side is beyond reproach is fucking ridiculous. | ||
| And if you're one of those tribal people, you have to do that. | ||
| You have to support your side. | ||
| And like, that just gets nuts. | ||
| You can't do that. | ||
| There's too many people. | ||
| There's too many financial interests. | ||
| There's too much money. | ||
| There's too much shit going on. | ||
| There's too the political problem. | ||
| You motherfuckers have been doing a terrible job of taking care of us. | ||
| You're not really taking care of us. | ||
| We want to think you're like a cool counselor or something like that. | ||
| It's like looking out for the rest of the kids that are on this camp together. | ||
| You know, like our councilman is going to take care of us. | ||
| They're going to teach us how to get through the woods. | ||
| Meanwhile, they're just stealing money. | ||
| No, you can't go to the woods. | ||
| It's a 28,000-hour trip. | ||
| But that's Canada. | ||
| I mean, but this is the problem with places that don't have the freedoms that we have. | ||
| Like the Constitution, our founding fathers, they nailed it. | ||
| They really did. | ||
| It's crazy that they nailed that so well. | ||
| They knew human nature so well that it applies like it's important 300 years later. | ||
| Maybe since they came from a monarchy, you know what I mean? | ||
| They gave them that perspective. | ||
| They were so smart, but I wonder how many of them were there, right? | ||
| Like how many like really well educated people were around back then? | ||
| Think about the age. | ||
| Couldn't have been that many. | ||
| They were kind of young. | ||
| It ain't even that many now. | ||
| Not a young person. | ||
| Not a young person. | ||
| Not a young person that were writing this thing. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Some of them are like in their early twenties. | ||
| Yeah, but that's middle age back then. | ||
| That's a good point, man. | ||
| That's true. | ||
| You get an infection back then. | ||
| You get sick. | ||
| Syphilis? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Done by 35 over there. | ||
| Yeah, brother. | ||
| The syphilis thing is really nuts though, but that is why that stupid fucking thing that that guy was wearing on his head. | ||
| So that's the tradition, uh, tradition. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| based on syphilis and they still do the shit today. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the guys with the most money had the biggest wigs. | ||
| That's why they call them big wigs. | ||
| Big wigs. | ||
| It all started with these two brothers that were royals. | ||
| Was it brother or a guy and his cousin? | ||
| I forget. | ||
| But these guys who were royals in France and these guys were like, you know, the socialites. | ||
| They were the celebrated people and they'd started losing their hair because they're freaks. | ||
| You know, they're probably fucking up a storm over there and they're catching syphilis and they got holes in their face and shit. | ||
| They smell awful and their fucking hair is falling out. | ||
| So they just get a wig. | ||
| And then other dudes say, I want to be like him. | ||
| So they got wigs. | ||
| And then a bunch of people started getting syphilis. | ||
| They covered it up with wigs. | ||
| But that's crazy to me that you're almost celebrating having syphilis by getting a bigger wig. | ||
| Well, you know what it is? | ||
| It's like you're not celebrating syphilis, but since everybody's wearing a wig, your wig is the dopest wig. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| You've got to have a dopest one right here. | ||
| Isn't it crazy that it's all because of sexually transmitted diseases? | ||
| Wearing that shit. | ||
| crazy that's our first export syphilis I think it was smallpox man smallpox wiped out what the whole country the whole country the whole all of North America was filled with people. | ||
| They all got killed. | ||
| It's like ninety percent of the people got killed. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Wait, hold on. | ||
| What year was that? | ||
| This was between the times of the first settlers to like the 1800s, it was ninety percent. | ||
| Did it say ninety percent? | ||
| It's like the Americans died of disease that, you know, Europeans brought. | ||
| And you know, that for a long time they were trying to deny, they were trying to figure out, like, what happened to the Mayas? | ||
| I'll tell you what happened to the Mayas. | ||
| Disease. | ||
| Disease. | ||
| Obviously, Europeans, they had this spectacular civilization in Mexico. | ||
| If you ever go down and you ever go and see any of the ruins? | ||
| Yeah, I went to Chichen Itza. | ||
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Chichen Itza. | |
| Yeah, I went there too. | ||
| Yeah, I went there too. | ||
| It's a couple of months ago. | ||
| It's amazing. | ||
| Dope. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's dope. | ||
| Like, what were they, what drugs were these motherfuckers? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, how were they building that shit? | ||
| I don't know, man. | ||
| A thousand years ago. | ||
| It's pretty amazing to see. | ||
| And even like the, remember that ball court they had where you could stand at one end or the other and you could hear each other talking. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Because of the acoustics. | ||
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And it's just the, the sheer size. | |
| The size of it. | ||
| It's like, wow. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And then just wiped out by a cough. | ||
| Like dirty, stinky Europeans right off the boat, breathing on everybody. | ||
| Swept through the people, no immunity to it. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| It's pretty wild, man. | ||
| It's exactly what happened to all the Amazon, too, man. | ||
| They're finding that out now. | ||
| The Amazon was all just disease. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| Why, they had millions of people living in the Amazon, and some Europeans went to visit, and like, I forget what year it was, but they came back and had these stories about these beautiful, like, cities and filled with gold and all this crazy shit, and then people went back a hundred years later, and it was all gone. | ||
| All of a sudden, this guy was lying. | ||
| It was a white tourist city. | ||
| But it wasn't, yeah. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| It wasn't lies. | ||
| So now they use LIDAR and they scan over the top of the forest and they see where these cities used to be. | ||
| There's so much shit over there that they haven't even uncovered. | ||
| It's just nuts that it's just dirty diseases. | ||
| Those first people that fucking, hey, coming over to the fucking forest. | ||
| They were hard-ass enough to make it here. | ||
| You know they were bringing some shit with them. | ||
| Oh, bro, you know how hard people must have been back then? | ||
| Just to even say, okay, I'm going to try it. | ||
| When someone says, hey, we've got a wood boat and we're going to go out there. | ||
| We have no idea if a storm is coming. | ||
| I've always give Christopher Columbus credit for that shit. | ||
| On a fucking wooden boat in the middle. | ||
| I can't even fucking find directions to. | ||
| to get to the fucking apex half the time. | ||
| The crazy thing is we give him credit for landing here and he didn't even make it here. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He landed like the Indies, right? | ||
| Like the West Indies? | ||
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| Where did Columbus actually land? | ||
| It was like near the Bahamas. | ||
| He wasn't even in America. | ||
| Bahamas is not America. | ||
| I'm good where he landed. | ||
| That fuck went out into the ocean five hundred years ago on a boat. | ||
| We give him Christopher Columbus Day to land here. | ||
| I mean, I'm looking at the Vikings. | ||
| These motherfuckers, you know, just conquered nations going everywhere. | ||
| So what's it say here? | ||
| San Salvador in the Bahamas. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| His first land on an island in the Bahamas. | ||
| Like that is not America, bitch. | ||
| You don't get credit for you don't get credit for discovering America.. | ||
| The Italians are we're taking credit anyway. | ||
| But that's probably when those diseases started hitting those areas. | ||
| Also, that history of smallpox goes back to the sixth century, started in China. | ||
| Smallpox does? | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| So the sixth century and then was it mostly smallpox that killed off the Native Americans or was it a bunch of different diseases that we brought with us? | ||
| Probably. | ||
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Seventeenth century European settlers brought smallpox to North America. | |
| There's an amazing guy named What is that, Jamie? | ||
| What the European settlers are here with Christopher Columbus, that's in the 16th century. | ||
| That's in the 1500s. | ||
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Right. | |
| He landed in 1492. | ||
| Yeah, 1492. | ||
| That's 200 years later almost Right, well, it's probably like how many people came, you know what I mean like when Christopher Columbus came that was so this is 1492. | ||
| He lands in the Bahamas like 200 years Yeah, how many people got were interacting with them? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| How many people? | ||
| Once they started coming over here regularly, like when did folks start to hopping in boats and coming over regularly? | ||
| Like the early settlers. | ||
| I wouldn't have did it. | ||
| How many of them did they come? | ||
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No fucking way. | |
| No fucking way. | ||
| Those people were animals, man. | ||
| For real. | ||
| You're going to take a chance. | ||
| This dude knows how to get across the ocean in a wooden boat using a thing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where you stare at the stars and try to figure out where you are. | ||
| And he's drunk all the time. | ||
| Jamestown was 1607 when that started. | ||
| That's when it started, huh? | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Well, that would be. | ||
| So that's probably makes sense for us. | ||
| So like 100 fucking years they talked about it. | ||
| Isn't that kind of crazy? | ||
| I like in Vikings. | ||
| Have you seen the show? | ||
| That show was amazing. | ||
| Oh, no shit. | ||
| Yeah, so it's like he lands in the Bahamas and then a hundred years later, right, and then he started Yeah, then they start the first, the first, the first I wonder how long it took them just to get across. | ||
| Can you imagine what it would be like to set up a colony in a new country and you know there's people with bows and arrows waiting to find out. | ||
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Could you imagine the first people that set up the Indian? | |
| They knew. | ||
| They knew that there's the fucking Indians waiting for us. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Everybody knew. | ||
| They knew that this was inhabited and they knew the type of people. | ||
| They'd come back, you know, whether it was Columbus' people or the other, whoever was here came back and they had all these crazy stories about, you know, interaction. | ||
| about interacting with also the craziest stories were from there was a one of the guys was a priest or something, some holy man that was traveling with Columbus who had detailed descriptions of the horrific shit Columbus and his men did to whoever the indigenous people were to be met. | ||
| Oh, horrible shit. | ||
| Where they were saying, If you don't bring back your weight in gold, we'll chop off your arms. | ||
| They were chopping arms, dashing babies' heads on rocks. | ||
| Jesus is correct. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They were forcing these people to bring them gold. | ||
| It's like, do you remember that guy's name? | ||
| Father something or another. | ||
| So he had his memoirs of his time over there with Christopher Columbus' people. | ||
| And he was like, it was horrific. | ||
| So these people that we celebrate, I mean, this is one thing that the Wokesters got right. | ||
| You know, if you celebrate Christopher Columbus, like Christopher Columbus, we have Columbus Day, like, be careful who you're celebrating. | ||
| If that father, that priest was telling the truth, you're celebrating a monster. | ||
| You're celebrating like a, literally like a mass murderer who would go to another country. | ||
| I mean, but it's believable when you think about history. | ||
| Bro, that's all they did. | ||
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To be sure. | |
| I mean, everybody conquered everybody at one point or another. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, and when there was no internet, you could get away with a lot. | ||
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A whole lot. | |
| Yeah, nobody knew you were coming. | ||
| You're coming with boats. | ||
| You're fucking people up. | ||
| You're taking all this shit. | ||
| And when you land places, you're like, this is probably the only time in history where a boat can land in a place and it's not hostile. | ||
| In America, when boats come here, it's like, it's like, oh, we're going to land. | ||
| But for the most part, most boat travel is not hostile. | ||
| It's like, oh, look, a big boat full of people. | ||
| They're going to come eat at our restaurants. | ||
| And strange people from a different land are going to come and enjoy what we have to offer here in Portugal or wherever you are. | ||
| Some people are counting on that. | ||
| Bro, it used to be. | ||
| A boat showed up. | ||
| You didn't know that know it was yeah yeah you gotta start it was on you got the water horns yeah yeah you hear a a shell or you gotta wake up with your armor on i can't believe i gotta do this just imagine that bro that's how they live forever that's how people live for thousands of years it's nuts it's amazing we made it as far as we did i don't know if we'll do another thousand I think not with these tech people. | ||
| No, I'm just saying like think about where we are now like those dudes they was hard right like they regardless they was hard. | ||
| Now we in TikTok culture. | ||
| We got it hard like that. | ||
| No, there's a lot of that. | ||
| And there's an encouragement of men to not be strong, which is always weird. | ||
| That's always the whole thing. | ||
| It's always weird. | ||
| There's that encouragement. | ||
| And it comes from people that aren't strong. | ||
| They want more people like them. | ||
| People more like us. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| To get, and when they're in control of social media, that's where things get weird. | ||
| The fucking Aphrodite, I'll tell you, they clipped all the balls from the Jedis. | ||
| Then nobody's gonna want an action figure of that fucking little. | ||
| He missed the Star Wars. | ||
| Well, I mean, they did. | ||
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They really did. | |
| I mean, the Jedi's just come up. | ||
| I mean, they pussified the Hulk and Marvel. | ||
| They gave him glasses and now he can talk. | ||
| Like, now it doesn't make any sense that you would go back and forth between being the Hulk and being Bruce. | ||
| Bannon. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, because he wasn't all they did. | ||
| He was supposed to be. | ||
| They made the Silver Starfire shriek. | ||
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Yeah, yeah. | |
| The Steve. | ||
| That wasn't that great, that movie. | ||
| But Superman. | ||
| That is a weird choice to give a guy role to a girl. | ||
| It's a weird choice because there's so many girl roles in Superman. | ||
| There were a ton of chick superheroes. | ||
| Especially in the X-Men. | ||
| The X-Men had plenty of them, right? | ||
| They gotta do that over right now. | ||
| It's like you've got Superwoman. | ||
| There's plenty of different characters you could play. | ||
| I don't know why. | ||
| Yeah, why are you? | ||
| Unless you're trying to prove a point. | ||
| Unless, like Matt Sarah says, I know who you voted for. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| To be fair, there is a female Silver Surfer. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| For all the people that are in the second one. | ||
| Well, here's the deal with that. | ||
| She was in maybe two episodes where she mattered, and the rest of them, she was mentioned. | ||
| Like, she's not a real character. | ||
| Bro, I used to love the Silver Surfer. | ||
| Did anybody ever do a comic surfer or a flat out movie that's any good? | ||
| Not a straight up one. | ||
| I thought the first Fantastic Four when they got the Silver Surfer pretty good in that one. | ||
| I thought. | ||
| Why wouldn't they have a Silver Surfer movie? | ||
| That's a no. | ||
| That's like my favorite character. | ||
| I mean, a special Cosmic characters. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| Zen is fucked. | ||
| Reverence is set. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 1000%. | ||
| I mean, he basically sacrificed himself to save his planet and his girl. | ||
| Bro, The Silver Surfer is literally the coolest comedy. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| He made him look cool in this. | ||
| He even wrote The Rise of the Silver Surfer. | ||
| Yeah, I thought this was a They did him good in this. | ||
| They did a version, a whole episode of The Avengers or a whole movie of The Avengers on The Silver Surfer. | ||
| I forgot. | ||
| Fantastic Four. | ||
| What year was that? | ||
| This was Fantastic Four. | ||
| Oh yeah, Fantastic Four. | ||
| This was pre. | ||
| 2007. | ||
| This was when Jessica Alba was the Invisible Woman. | ||
| 2007. | ||
| And Captain America was the human torch. | ||
| That got Chris Adams. | ||
| Yeah, he was cool. | ||
| Who played Silver Surfer in this? | ||
| I don't, I don't remember. | ||
| It might have been all Seahawks. | ||
| He looked the part though. | ||
| I thought they nailed it, I thought in this. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| The voice was Lawrence Fishbart. | ||
| Yeah, the voice was. | ||
| I remember that. | ||
| When I was chubby, I looked like Michael Chickwitz. | ||
| The Shield. | ||
| The Shield was like the thing. | ||
| The Shield was like the thing. | ||
| Yeah, that was great. | ||
| The Shield was like the thing. | ||
| But yeah, I saw that new Fantastic Four movie and it wasn't overly woke or anything. | ||
| But they could have done more with the thing. | ||
| Yeah, I heard he was like a minor part. | ||
| You know, the girls had the best parts. | ||
| They're the ones that did the thing with Galactus at the end. | ||
| No spoilers. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Right. | ||
| So, you know, but I am happy to say, and I know you were waiting for me to bring it up, I enjoyed the new Superman. | ||
| I didn't see it yet. | ||
| Of course not. | ||
| We're all adults except for me here. | ||
| I want to see it though. | ||
| I heard it's good. | ||
| James Gunn, man. | ||
| I don't believe I never heard of that song. | ||
| Punk rocker by Teddy Bears. | ||
| Oh, that'll change your life. | ||
| It has Iggy Pop in it. | ||
| Oh, it gets my nipples hard. | ||
| It's so good. | ||
| And the movie, if you like Guardians of the Galaxy, which I'm sure you did, then you'll like this because it's just fun. | ||
| Let's have fun again. | ||
| That's it. | ||
| I have nothing against the Henry Cavall one. | ||
| He was a badass. | ||
| He was good. | ||
| But it was only a good deal. | ||
| Snyder's got that darker feeling. | ||
| It's kind of weird that we still want to see the same fucking characters over and over and over again in different versions of the same movie. | ||
| Like, isn't it kind of weird? | ||
| No, because I love those characters. | ||
| I understand, but it's like, there's a little thing of it that it's like seeking comfort. | ||
| in this thing. | ||
| Oh, it's Superman again. | ||
| Like not letting go of our childhood. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Because like, try coming up with a new Superman today. | ||
| People are going to be like, fuck you. | ||
| Like, some new kind of comic book guy, like not the no background at all in comics. | ||
| You come up with a superhero type character now in a movie. | ||
| No one's going to watch it. | ||
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Right. | |
| Like, I don't want a new one. | ||
| No one wants a new one. | ||
| Everyone wants the Hulk. | ||
| Everybody wants Spider-Man. | ||
| You want to see Spider-Man. | ||
| There's like, how many different dudes have been the Hulk? | ||
| Four or five dudes. | ||
| Yeah, they kept changing the Hulk. | ||
| I kept the dude. | ||
| That's why Spider-Man is good. | ||
| Ed Norton was the best. | ||
| They got rid of him because he wanted to keep the Hulk. | ||
| like the Hulk. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| He didn't like him. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That was my favorite version of the Hulk. | ||
| Ed Norton. | ||
| He's running through the favelas in Brazil. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, that was awesome. | ||
| When the Hulk starts running through that factory and he smashes. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| That's when it was like, see, you kind of knew it was bullshit. | ||
| You're looking at it like a CGI. | ||
| It's a comic. | ||
| But as long as you keep it kind of darkly lit, you know, don't show me too much. | ||
| They got better with that. | ||
| They got better with the... | ||
| That was a superhero that was just out of nowhere. | ||
| I can't watch anything with this fucking guy anymore. | ||
| I didn't want to bring it up that way. | ||
| His whole name is Nick. | ||
| He's nice, man. | ||
| Real corny. | ||
| And this guy's doubling down on smacking Chris Rock. | ||
| You know that? | ||
| He has a verse is like, you disrespect me on the stage, expect me on the stage, which is kind of cool saying but you know i mean i'm his horse he's doubling down on it spiral downward spiral and and then i mean you're basically he stole our show name because he is a cuck you saw what the hell his wife has humiliated that poor guy yeah publicly man yeah that was weird it's uh and he was universally loved and | ||
| And now he's pretty well, almost universally reviled for him and Chris. | ||
| Everybody loves that Chris Rock. | ||
| His music shit. | ||
| I was about to say, his rap is so trash. | ||
| Garbage. | ||
| Sometimes you hit your horse to the wrong wagon. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And that'll take you on a bad journey, son. | ||
| That'll take you on a bad journey. | ||
| And you might hang in there for a while and keep your sanity for a while. | ||
| But eventually, if you're living with someone who's not right for you and there's a lot of tension, which there seems to be with them. | ||
| A lot of weird shit. | ||
| Important decision is the spouse. | ||
| The most important fucking decision in your life. | ||
|
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Gigantic. | |
| Yeah, I mean, look at the kids. | ||
| At least the son. | ||
| Imagine if you had to camp out with your best friend for the rest of your life. | ||
| You would have to really be careful. | ||
| Like, I have to pick one dude and I'm going to be able to camp out with him for the rest of my life. | ||
| Just me and him in a tent for the rest of my life. | ||
| And you get to fuck him. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| I know what you're saying. | ||
| You're saying no. | ||
| yeah but now you add in sex and the fact that you're not even the same gender yeah you gotta be my thing is i always say you gotta be compatible like you know what i mean me and my wife very compatible yeah me too because man i can't stand anybody Well, you know, you just gotta be picky. | ||
| And some people aren't. | ||
| Some people just settle for hot. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's the problem. | ||
| Settle it for hot. | ||
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And that's always the most dangerous, too. | |
| The girls settle for hot. | ||
| The girls settle for, all right, shit, I gotta get a kid soon, I'm gonna be thirty, you know, so they'll settle for mister Good enough. | ||
| So that's the most important thing. | ||
| It's got to be hard for the girls out there too. | ||
| Fucking bunch of savages. | ||
| It's hard for everybody out there. | ||
| It's a weird time and now everybody's on dating apps. | ||
| So everybody has a new culture. | ||
| New culture. | ||
| New culture. | ||
| Opportunity at every swipe of the finger. | ||
| Today it's like socially acceptable to be a hoe. | ||
| I think it's also, it's, there's real concerns that intelligent people have about population decline. | ||
| That sounds kind of crazy. | ||
| Like, well, we're not going to have population decline. | ||
| Oh, it's just. | ||
| Plenty of people. | ||
| But the problem is people are not having nearly as many people, like replacement people. | ||
| Like, in order for a society to exist at the same numbers, essentially everyone has to have kids. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Right? | ||
| But a giant percentage of people, like in our generation and younger generations, are not having kids. | ||
| They're deciding to opt out of it and just focus on their career. | ||
| They say in Italy and here, I mean Japan, like they're all having a negative, you know, population over the years. | ||
| Like they're not having enough kids to sustain the population. | ||
| And you add to that microplastics that are killing everybody. | ||
| That's what it's called. | ||
| Knocking down your, your, your, your. | ||
| It's kind of weird. | ||
| It's like a thing that we don't see coming. | ||
| You know, we don't see it cominging, like a real population. | ||
| But places like Japan are freaking out, man. | ||
| They're They're really worried about it. | ||
| South Korea, same thing. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| It could be a real problem. | ||
| I didn't even know that was a thing. | ||
| Well, it just makes sense, man. | ||
| If you got everybody just wants to have a career and if you can't focus on your career because you have kids, you put your kids off till you're in your late fifties. | ||
| What's the number? | ||
| Like the 2.1 or something? | ||
| You know, you have to have 2.1 kids in order to maintain, you know, just the current level of population. | ||
| Someone was telling me that in vitro fertilization, which a lot of women use, that those hormones that they have to give you are linked to cancer. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Is that true, Jamie? | ||
| Can you find, can you look that up? | ||
| Because someone brought it up to me and I was like, I don't know if that's really And why is testosterone in the younger generation not as strong as it used to be? | ||
| Microplastics. | ||
| So he had a lady on that went deep into that stuff. | ||
| I mean, there's no strong evidence to see this is AI. | ||
| AI is working for the government, man. | ||
| Okay, let's see. | ||
| National Institute of Health says transient increase in the risk of having breast or uterine cancer. | ||
| So as soon as you start admitting things like that to me, and this says no conclusive evidence that fertility 1999. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| 26 years old. | ||
| Right. | ||
| What does it say like 17 do not? | ||
| It says it doesn't. | ||
| Treatments do not increase the risk of ovarian cancer, malignant melanoma, or cancers of the endometrium. | ||
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Hmm. | |
| Why am I skeptical? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Maybe I'm skeptical because you're using Google. | ||
| Well, I mean, I know, but you know what I'm saying? | ||
| That's the place to use, but I would wonder how much of that would be available. | ||
| Like if someone, if someone's some sort of an alternative doctor or someone who's stepping outside of the lines and saying, I'm treating a bunch of cases of cancer like where would you even find that guy's work i don't know no idea twitter yeah that's the problem right you see a thing on twitter you're like is this guy a quack right is this guy real but a person told it to me that i trust and i was like really that stuff causes cancer because like that's you're you're you've got to dose yourself up with a bunch of hormones | ||
| when ladies do that in vitro fertilization thing All I know is I like that now at our age, we're all in our fifties. | ||
| Are you fifty yet, motherfucker? | ||
| Next year. | ||
| I'm still in my forties, man. | ||
| I mean, are you on TRT yet? | ||
| Yeah, yeah, I got a little bit of it. | ||
| Thank God we have that man because back in the day Yeah, you'd fall back in the day. | ||
| We would just find it on the street. | ||
| Well, I don't think you'd ever need it. | ||
| You had a different neighborhood. | ||
| But those guys were right. | ||
| That's what's crazy is like old juice heads were right. | ||
| In a lot of ways, there's a lot of old juice heads in the gym that were looking jacked in their 50s and 60s. | ||
| Bobby just stays on D ball. | ||
| He's on D ball. | ||
| You would meet people in the gym that would tell you what they do and how they did it. | ||
| And then you had to take advice from those folks. | ||
| And a lot of fighters got their – you would think by the time a fighter gets to the UFC, like, well, he's probably got a professional team behind him, a bunch of really organized folks. | ||
| Like, no, no, no. | ||
| These dudes come with sketchy characters. | ||
| Like super sketchy connections to the streets. | ||
| I just read as much as I could, you know, if you were going to – try to get as much information as you could about what you're putting in yourself. | ||
| The best guy is online is Derek. | ||
| Oh, now, yeah. | ||
| More plates, more dates. | ||
| He's phenomenal. | ||
| He wasn't around in the 80s and 90s. | ||
| know, but he's like the best pro scientist. | ||
| I think so too. | ||
| He's a smart motherfucker. | ||
| Smart motherfucker. | ||
| I'm real. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I wouldn't fuck with that myself. | ||
| Like I go to a place that, you know, they check my blood every six weeks. | ||
| You got to donate blood now. | ||
| You got to do this and that so it doesn't get too thick, you know? | ||
| I've heard that before, but I don't have that problem for some reason. | ||
| It doesn't do it to me. | ||
| I think it doesn't do it to everybody. | ||
| I go donate the blood. | ||
| No, I was recommended to do it a bunch of times. | ||
| Make sure I'm okay. | ||
| Yeah, you're perfect. | ||
| Because you're supposed to get your... | ||
| You do it every six weeks? | ||
| No. | ||
| You mean you're getting the blood pricked? | ||
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No, they check me. | |
| They check me, and if it gets too high, my red blood cells, whatever they are. | ||
| Oh, so you're just getting the finger prick to see what you're... | ||
| and then they check all my everything. | ||
| Well, they can do your red blood cell count. | ||
| Like if you go donate blood, they fucking prick your finger and check what your level is. | ||
| Yeah, I go there. | ||
| Well, my place finds out first and then they say, all right, I could either do a dump there, but they don't use the blood. | ||
| I like to donate it because it makes me feel better about it. | ||
| Do you have unvaccinated blood? | ||
| Do you have pure blood? | ||
| I got pure blood. | ||
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Do you? | |
| I don't. | ||
| They pay me, they pay me, they got double. | ||
| Which one they got? | ||
| Three times. | ||
| I got all three of them. | ||
| You know what happened there? | ||
| I got all I had to, though. | ||
| I had to. | ||
| Why? | ||
| Because you had to work. | ||
| I had to work. | ||
| You have seen me. | ||
| You have seen me. | ||
| Wait, yeah, they made it. | ||
| They didn't make me. | ||
| I didn't fucking know I should have. | ||
| But I have to travel though. | ||
| If you travel in all the parts of the world. | ||
| That's the problem. | ||
| Fuck. | ||
| Some of these countries weren't letting you in without it. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah, they wouldn't do anything without it. | ||
| When you fucking make someone take something because they the only way they could use your service is if they take because you think that this thing is going to work and it doesn't work, shouldn't you be able to go, Fuck you, you made me take this and this is going to work. | ||
| And it didn't even work. | ||
| It didn't even do any of the things he said. | ||
| It's bad for the people. | ||
| It's crazy what you can get away with in the world, especially during something like a pandemic, you know, where everybody just agrees to different rules. | ||
| Because that's what happened during the pandemic. | ||
| I was thinking about that shit. | ||
| Are people still dying from COVID? | ||
| No. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Like, what happened today? | ||
| There's people that are dying with COVID, so there's people that are dying. | ||
| and they also have COVID. | ||
| But they're dying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And that's the difference. | ||
| And that's why the numbers for the deaths were elevated so high. | ||
| Did someone die of cancer? | ||
| Did you have COVID? | ||
| It was COVID. | ||
| Yeah, bro, it was a shark attack. | ||
| Check the fetus. | ||
| He's got COVID. | ||
| Yeah, like everyone died of COVID. | ||
| Because they were financially incentivized in people to treat deaths as COVID deaths. | ||
| Same with the ventilators. | ||
| They were getting more money if they had to put someone on a ventilator. | ||
| And then they find out the ventilators were killing people. | ||
| Yeah, bro, imagine that. | ||
| There was so much craziness. | ||
| Like, you know, when we were saying we hope that someone is in charge that knows exactly what to do. | ||
| No, there's a lot of times in history. | ||
| You have no idea what the fuck they're doing. | ||
| And then financial interests get involved. | ||
| And then they come up with, we're going to just make everyone take this. | ||
| This is going to be amazing. | ||
| We're going to have a lot of money. | ||
| A lot of money. | ||
| But we're going to have to. | ||
| By the way, they all did it. | ||
| Just take it once. | ||
| They can't take it to court. | ||
| And they can't take it to court. | ||
| And they can't take it to court. | ||
| And they're not liable. | ||
| Because they called it a vaccine, but it's not even really a vaccine. | ||
| It's a gene therapy. | ||
| It's a totally novel, new thing that you're giving to three hundred million people just in this country alone. | ||
| The ads were so shady. | ||
| Like I'd be in my car and it'd be like two students talking, like my parents don't want me to take it it, but I'm really nervous. | ||
| It was like really crazy. | ||
| I'm like, what the fuck is this? | ||
| So nuts. | ||
| Bro, that's so nuts. | ||
| You know how many people have stories where they let their kid take it and then the kid has a stroke? | ||
| They're all over online. | ||
| Myocarditis was a big thing. | ||
| Myocarditis, yeah. | ||
| There's undiagnosed myocarditis out there too, I bet where people just feel tired all the time, feel a little fatigued. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So am I the only one here who got the vaccine? | ||
| Yeah, definitely. | ||
| Jamie got COVID real early. | ||
| Jamie survived it early, so I knew it was not that big a deal. | ||
| Good job, Jamie. | ||
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To walk with a team, Jamie seems okay. | |
| And then Tony Hitchcliff got it worse than Jamie. | ||
| He had it a little longer than you, right? | ||
| You don't remember? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| The creepy thing is these motherfuckers, they meet and then they say, there will be another pandemic. | ||
| And you're like, yeah, fuck you die. | ||
| How do you know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, what about Biden and friends were trying to sign one with the WHO where they had control over being able to shut the U.S. down, like, yes. | ||
| And all this nonsense. | ||
| Thank God we pulled right the fuck out of that. | ||
| What a dumb idea. | ||
| Let some giant global health organization have say over our country. | ||
| over over totally corrupt. | ||
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It's like these motherfuckers run the country because Bill Gates is a core donator to it. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Just nuts, man. | ||
| It's just nuts. | ||
| Crazy shit. | ||
| Before I got here, I was watching fucking Kamzat versus Kamor Rusman. | ||
| Not to just jump into that now, but yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| You know, I had Drakis on Unfiltered the other day. | ||
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Yep. | |
| And he, you know, he's an intelligent guy, man. | ||
| He's not a guy that doesn't do his homework. | ||
| And he was just saying about everybody talks about how aggressive Khamzat is. | ||
| And he goes, watch his fight. | ||
| in Kamar Usman the second round. | ||
| Over three minutes of him just standing there. | ||
| standing there. | ||
| He's like, he's not going to be able to do that to me. | ||
| He's going to be working the whole time. | ||
| He trains so fucking hard that he puts out everything in that five minutes. | ||
| That one minute gets him right back. | ||
| It's almost like he approaches that at like five different fights. | ||
| Like, you know what I mean? | ||
| Because in that one minute, he comes back down and then he goes back out there again, Drakis. | ||
| And we were just talking that we saw, you saw the same thing I saw with his crappling ability. | ||
| He took out a whole, I mean, listen, it's different. | ||
| Those guys are a lot of card players. | ||
| But he did a quintet and submitted everybody. | ||
| Again, they were more Jiu-Jitsu guys. | ||
| It's a different type of style, but that was impressive. | ||
| Not to mention, and I looked, you know, my producers gave me his bio. | ||
| and everything and I'm like, dude, he started his first thing in the first entry into martial arts was at five years old doing judo and his second discipline was at 12 years old doing wrestling. | ||
| I mean, it's not like he's not a grappler. | ||
| Everybody's just so used to him throwing his bombs and his kicks. | ||
| Well, you know, I'm on your side with this. | ||
| We had to talk about it. | ||
| He's a monster. | ||
| And there's guys, and you know this because you work with Mirab. | ||
| There's guys that reach this level of discipline and they achieve a level of cardiovascular performance that's just above everybody else's and then they maintain it. | ||
| Like they get that advantage and they keep pushing it and they slowly keep adding on to it. | ||
| Like you're seeing Mirab now, particularly in the second O'Malley fight. | ||
| Eugene is like a totally different beast. | ||
| He's super non-stop. | ||
| Non-stop and you can't relentless. | ||
| He can't keep up with that. | ||
| You know, he's like, it's just hard work. | ||
| It's just hard work. | ||
| I believe that, but man. | ||
| You have a state of mind too, like mentally he believes it mentally. | ||
| But the amount of hard work is extraordinary to get to that level. | ||
| And I think Drickus is kind of a similar guy. | ||
| I think that dude works so hard that he can go out there and fight full blast, which is weird when you watch him fight. | ||
| Sometimes it doesn't look as clean. | ||
| He looks like he's mouth breathing, but he just keeps the same pace. | ||
| A lot of that was the earlier fights before he got his nose fixed. | ||
| So he got his nose fixed so he could breathe out of his nose. | ||
| Makes sense. | ||
| Changed everything and then went on a tear after that. | ||
| That's when he crushed Whitaker. | ||
| The Whitaker one was shocking. | ||
| Because we all know how durable Whitaker is. | ||
| The Yoel Romero fights. | ||
| That guy's durable as fuck. | ||
| To watch him just flatten him like that, you're like, whoa, hang on. | ||
| He's funny. | ||
| He's like, I don't know. | ||
| i don't have a great poker face he goes people say i look tired because i am tired right and when you get tired you breathe out of your mouth more and he goes but even if i am tired i don't have a poker face, but I'm still coming forward. | ||
| I'm still going to. | ||
| And he has, he's got, man, he's got confidence. | ||
| He's beaming with confidence. | ||
| He's just that guy. | ||
| I mean, he's a good champion. | ||
| He's a great champion. | ||
| He speaks well. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Much of the part. | ||
| It's interesting, the Izzy fight. | ||
| I went and watched that again, and, you know, it seemed like Izzy had an advantage up to a point, but then the pressure got to him. | ||
| Then he got hit with a couple of those long shots. | ||
| He got hit, and it just looked like he just didn't have enough in him to fight his way out of it. | ||
| And when he went down, he got submitted pretty quickly afterwards. | ||
| But I would wonder what Izzy and his prime, how that fight would have looked? | ||
| Because that would have been a lot different. | ||
| A lot, you know, Izzy in his prime when he was, you know, he was a little quicker, a little better angles, yeah. | ||
| Also, touch it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He wouldn't have been damaged. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| There's just the, and there's the damage of training, it's like, but like, Izzy Palo Costa, yeah. | ||
| That's prime. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's prime. | ||
| That's also motivated, Izzy, like, fuck you. | ||
| He was sitting down on his shots, Izzy, yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, he put him away quick and then dry humped him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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You know what? | |
| He's terrible. | ||
| Don't do that, kids. | ||
| But that Izzy, that would have been very, very interesting to see him him versus Drex, because he could have handled that pressure. | ||
| Because that pressure, that pressure is bananas. | ||
| You know, like the Anthony and Hernandez fight. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| That pressure is nuts. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| You could, man, I was like, you couldn't keep up with him. | ||
| Dude, he looked like a different level. | ||
| He looked great. | ||
| He looked amazing. | ||
| He looks like a world champion. | ||
| He looks like a world champion. | ||
| I spoiled it for you guys. | ||
| Sorry about that. | ||
| No worries. | ||
| No, I was out. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| When I came home, I was like, Fuck. | ||
| I didn't see it yet, but I watched it as soon as I got home. | ||
| I was super impressed, man. | ||
| And that whole division is like, Jesus. | ||
| There's so many different contenders in that division. | ||
| You know? | ||
| You got Bojali. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| This whole fight card. | ||
| Strickland, like, what's going to happen with Strickland? | ||
| They suspended him indefinitely for punching some dude. | ||
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| Did you see that? | ||
| Like, he didn't have to do that, man. | ||
| Those guys got it. | ||
| Him and Chris Curtis, man, they just, man, you can't fuck with them. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because they, yeah, they will not back down. | ||
| You just can't fuck with them. | ||
| Yeah, and you can't, but you can't jump into a cage and punch. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| That guy was being a little disrespectful, though. | ||
| I like Strickland. | ||
| Fuck that guy. | ||
| I mean, that was kind of... | ||
| He's like, you know, he doesn't have anything on the mic. | ||
| He's like, yeah, well, it's entertainment. | ||
| He's like, oh, bo boy, he was Jesus. | ||
| He got what he wanted. | ||
| He got his two seconds. | ||
| But Sean is crazy. | ||
| Yeah, man, those guys. | ||
| He's real. | ||
| Hey, man, he is what he sells. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| He walks that fucking knack. | ||
| You ever see when that guy tried to, well, the guy who was like running from the cops and he was sneaking around his house. | ||
| Sean came out with a pistol. | ||
| Yeah, I didn't see that. | ||
| The dude did like crash DUI and then jumped out of the car. | ||
| Running into the wrong fucking yard right into Sean Strickland. | ||
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I mean, a lot of times now, those guys are just sitting in the house waiting to shoot someone, bro. | |
| He's sexy, man. | ||
| Oh, that's a wet dream for him. | ||
| Yeah, but, you know, nowadays. | ||
| with that guy being disrespectful like that, everybody's so used to no repercussions. | ||
| It's like, so everybody just gets so much ruder. | ||
| I always say that. | ||
| Bring bullies back. | ||
| The world was a different place. | ||
| Teach everybody martial arts. | ||
| I mean, that would help. | ||
| It just sucks when a guy who is into martial arts like Strickland does something. | ||
| And you still love them. | ||
| I told them a story last night where... | ||
| His mother's a little overbearing. | ||
| And, you know, she's a little crazy. | ||
| But then how about the kid? | ||
| The kid's a nice kid. | ||
| So I'm like, all right. | ||
| So after a Saturday class I got like 60 people you know I'm a little I get my nights aren't great because my ulcerate of colitis but you know I I'm energetic I do my class I do this thing for this kid 12 year old kid and the mother's like oh we want to inspire the youth of today because they're all little she's an Irish lady a little and then so I sit down with this kid I'm like all right you know it was okay I'm here with freaking UFC legend Matt Sarah and I'm 12 years old And yet we managed to be the same exact height. | ||
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I got fucking, I got blindshotted by this little thing. | |
| So now, and when he said that, the husband and the wife were or husbands behind the cat, oh. | ||
| I'm like, dude, I'm seeing red. | ||
| I want a fucking So they're laughing. | ||
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Oh, they're like, no, in other words, they want a response. | |
| So I'm like, So my first thought was directed towards the father who might have taught this kid no madness. | ||
| Stop lying. | ||
| The kid's your size. | ||
| You wanted to hit him. | ||
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I wanted to see him. | |
| I wanted to see the fucking Loki in that little. | ||
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I was going to take that little. | |
| So then I remembered that. | ||
| I got my daughters in there. | ||
| So I go, so he tried to ask me. | ||
| I go, oh, so I go, who came up with that question, bud? | ||
| He goes, me, me. | ||
| Now this kid knows I can't strangle him. | ||
| I want to kill his fat father. | ||
| And then I remembered my three daughters are in there. | ||
| So I go inside. | ||
| I go, give me one second, kid. | ||
| I go inside. | ||
| I go, Maria, this kid's giving me a hard time. | ||
| I want you to roll with him and put it on him. | ||
| She, okay. | ||
| On my Instagram, this kid wanted clicks. | ||
| 38,000 views of my daughter strangled the fuck out of this kid. | ||
| And we got some clicks. | ||
| And it was phenomenal. | ||
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And Matt's talking shit. | |
| I don't know how he's talking shit to the kid. | ||
| Percussions Joe re fucking percussions he's a hey now kid on my evening craze on the video oh you're gonna get some cliclicks on this? | ||
| Yeah, you want some clicks, you little fuck? | ||
| And, you know, wow. | ||
| Oh, you see my daughter. | ||
| Mercy for the 12-year-old. | ||
| Oh, that's crazy. | ||
| And after my daughter said, I go, you want to start from the feet or on the knees? | ||
| He chose on the knees. | ||
| You know, my daughter strangles him once. | ||
| Then I go, I pull him on top. | ||
| Pull him in. | ||
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Go on. | |
| I'm just, you know, any, I just, I go, you're gonna make any more short jokes, gamers? | ||
| No. | ||
| Little fuck. | ||
| You know? | ||
| But anyway, I just love Jiu-Jitsu, man. | ||
| Shout out to my Maria. | ||
| But I'm glad I... | ||
| I'm like, fat fuck. | ||
| I'm sitting there giving you my toil time. | ||
| It's the first question. | ||
| You'll get away with that. | ||
| I know you for 30 years, John. | ||
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Fuck that. | |
| You know, Joe, who am I right? | ||
| If you think about the industry of trying to keep bodies together, what industry, what sport provides more patience than Jiu Jitsu? | ||
| Like everybody, you know, like, if you think about it, when you get to a certain point and you've been training for a certain amount of time, you're gonna get fucking banged up. | ||
| Like, which sport benefits more from, like, guys in their forties and fifties, like, peptides and stuff like that. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| It's Jiu Jitsu brings a lot of patience because everyone's hurt. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Everyone's hurt. | |
| Like, 1000%. | ||
| regular 40 year old dudes aren't hurt all the time you know what i mean they usually work they go into an office they don't rarely get knee injuries knee injuries are rare i'll tell you 40 year old jujitsu guys everybody's knees are everybody's everybody's they got a they everybody got a hurt shoulder everybody elbows up everybody's got a pickleball i do a 40 night 40 i do a 40 and overnight uh class every wednesday i teach it Oh, me, me. | ||
| And then I just to feel like Gordon Ryan, I jump on the old men. | ||
| I have fun with them. | ||
| But, dude, they fucking love it. | ||
| Sometimes when it's less than 20, I'll do like my old school Jiu-Jitsu gang fight. | ||
| Everybody, I pick teams. | ||
| I put this guy over there. | ||
| I get it kind of even. | ||
| They all start on their knees. | ||
| You remember this? | ||
| We used to do it from the feet back in Henzos. | ||
| Everybody's breaking their backs, jumping on their backs. | ||
| But when one team, you can know lower body submissions could be two on one, three on one. | ||
| It stops when one team submits the whole other team. | ||
| So we got these old men in there like, you're jumping on their backs. | ||
| Dude, they're upstairs in the lock room. | ||
| It reminds me of the Twilight Zone movie when they play Kick the Kid. | ||
| They're like little kids up there like talking about. | ||
| They have such a good time. | ||
| Practicing murdering each other. | ||
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Right. | |
| Isn't that funny? | ||
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So much. | |
| Making it novel like that, making it like a team thing. | ||
| Especially if you trust each other, if you're training partners. | ||
| The biggest thing out of an academy is the atmosphere, as you can see. | ||
| So I make sure I pluck guys out on a fucking every month. | ||
| Somebody comes in and I'll be like, ah, yeah, keep your $200, get the fuck out of here. | ||
| It's all top down. | ||
| It all comes down from the attitude of the people that are running the play. | ||
| Always. | ||
| Yo, do you ever show up at a random Jiu Jitsu school and just pop in? | ||
| No. | ||
| I can't do that. | ||
| I haven't rolled at all in a year. | ||
| No kidding. | ||
| No. | ||
| I've had a recurring knee issue and a recurring lower back issue that I'm trying to get right before I do anything stupid again. | ||
| Do you, man?. | ||
| Shout out to Bioaccelerator and Costco. | ||
| Oh, that place is great. | ||
| So fucking great. | ||
| We got a positive result from that place. | ||
| I know a lot of people went down there. | ||
| I was able to throw my right hand again, which I used to wave like fucking this. | ||
| And now I'm just I'm so happy I can do it again. | ||
| Bringing it back to the Kamaro fight with Chimaev. | ||
| Kamaro has been down there too. | ||
| I was there a couple of years ago. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like, it's a lot of UFC guys going down there. | ||
| Oh, 100%. | ||
| Canal Quinta. | ||
| That CPI in Tijuana is a closer, closer trek. | ||
| That place is really good. | ||
| And the UFC's affiliated with them now. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Very interesting. | ||
| Yeah, they're really good. | ||
| I know a lot of people. | ||
| Eddie Bravo has been down there multiple times but I know a lot of UFC fighters that have been down there man I I've been to the and again Colombia what is it Medellin am I saying that? | ||
| I always fuck that up but for hey the food down there was fucking delicious oh yeah man went out there with my Jedi Abe and fucking we he took me into town the food I was eating the bread I was and I'm just again South American knows how to do it you know fuck that pro mate it's so good Yeah, I went down there. | ||
| Dan Severn was down there. | ||
| We were down there. | ||
| Yeah, Dan. | ||
| He was in a fucking wheelchair getting rolled around. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, no. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's in a wheelchair now? | ||
| No, just for that trip because he was getting sent cells. | ||
| Oh, oh, oh. | ||
| The breaker.? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| You got addicted to these fucking things. | ||
| Yeah, you got my at home, my Muay Thai coach at home, Vince Moska, running our Thai program. | ||
| He goes, yeah, tell Rogan thanks. | ||
| I tried them fucking zins and now I'm addicted to them. | ||
| You know? | ||
| I took my whole vacation off of them. | ||
| And like I said, I was like wondering what it was going to feel like. | ||
| I was like, oh my word. | ||
| No, nothing. | ||
| It's fine. | ||
| There's nothing. | ||
| I just think it's, I think it might be a biological thing. | ||
| You know, some people, cigarettes just get them and they just want to smoke cigarettes every day. | ||
| And some people, nicotine gets them. | ||
| I think some people could just stop taking nicotine and they seem to be all right. | ||
| And thankfully, I seem to be one of them. | ||
| It helps me shit. | ||
| I do. | ||
| A couple of those with my espresso and a seltzer in the morning. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| You know, it's terrible. | ||
| I feel so great. | ||
| It's terrible for playing pool. | ||
| If you take too many of them, you're like, you're shaky. | ||
| You don't have a good connection between your movement. | ||
| You feel, you feel like weird when you're shooting. | ||
| Like, you don't notice it when you're talking because it's it is a stimulant. | ||
| So it's like stimulating your brain. | ||
| It actually like helps brain function. | ||
| Nicotine itself is a nootropic. | ||
| It's like, it's a nutrient that helps brain function. | ||
| Like, it'll help you pass tests. | ||
| I think it helps my ADD a little. | ||
| It probably does. | ||
| Terrible for pool though. | ||
| But I'm still on that alpha brain, so that's all. | ||
| that's good. | ||
| That's good. | ||
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That's good. | |
| Gummies now too, man. | ||
| Oh, do you try to do that? | ||
| Gummies. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'll take some too. | ||
| I gotta give you guys a jar of them. | ||
| How many do you take? | ||
| I take three. | ||
| Oh, shit. | ||
| Back on the on the Duplessy fight there. | ||
| Like, I mean, we were talking last night. | ||
| We both think that DVP can pull this out and win it. | ||
| Like, my mind. | ||
| I definitely win it. | ||
| My mindset. | ||
| And look, we all know Khamzat's a savage. | ||
| He can win it too. | ||
| But yeah, I could see I could see shit going either way. | ||
| But if I, you know, if we look at it, I mean, his two toughest opponents, save for Whittaker, who went in there with a broken face and got it broke the rest of the way. | ||
| Gilbert 170, and maybe Gilbert won that one. | ||
| Kamaru 170, took it on very short notice. | ||
| Almost won that one. | ||
| If it goes longer, probably he does win that one. | ||
| That was a middle weight. | ||
| Yeah, but he's 170 pounder. | ||
| If he's making 70 all the time and going to 85, now you're fighting a dude that walks at 230, so he's not going to have a big strength advantage over him. | ||
| Yeah, he's going to be the better wrestler. | ||
| But I just think that Drickus is going to be able to weather the storm and then come out the other side and it's going to be a problem. | ||
| And if Komzat comes in, people are talking about him fighting at a slower pace. | ||
| Well, that's not his style. | ||
| And if he fights at a slower pace, I think that plays into Drickus' hands because it will allow him to fight more forward and pressure him into things. | ||
| So it's going to be interesting to see if it gets into deep water. | ||
| That's what's going to be interesting because I know he started training with Calavita. | ||
| He went for his conditioning. | ||
| Yeah, he went to Sam Calavita who trained TJ Dillishaw. | ||
| He works with Aaron Pico, Armand Saroukian's doing it with him too. | ||
| And that guy is a legend, man. | ||
| Calavita is a real. | ||
| No, 100%. | ||
| He's a real. | ||
| I believe with cardio too, part of it is your mental, your mindset, like with pushing through the tired. | ||
| And, you know, we were talking a little last night and, you know, Khamzat's a bad motherfucker. | ||
| I don't know about his mind yet. | ||
| Because this is the thing, this is what I was getting at. | ||
| He pulls out of a bunch of fights. | ||
| Armand Saroukian, who also just pulled out of a bunch of fights. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But Armand said the problem was Khamzat overtrained for every fight. | ||
| And he would always come into fights worn out. | ||
| And that was the difference between work with working with Calvita. | ||
| They're monitoring his actual recovery. | ||
| They're making sure they're doing everything scientifically. | ||
| Calvita's, I think his background is in cycling. | ||
| It was in, you know, endurance sports. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| I mean, I'm familiar. | ||
| I'm familiar with him. | ||
| I know who he is. | ||
| I know he was TJ's guy. | ||
| Nobody knows more about cardio than cyclists because it's all cardio. | ||
| The whole thing. | ||
| It's all cardio. | ||
| So they know. | ||
| Cardio and EPO. | ||
| Yeah, they know that too. | ||
| But they know how to recover and they know like where, what's your threshold, like where you should be. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| So he's using real science to do it. | ||
| He's like, this is the first time he's ever been through a camp like this where he's coming in fresh, where he's not overtrained. | ||
| Well, we're going to see. | ||
| We're going to see. | ||
| And my question is, too, if he gets in a bad spot, is he going to push through it? | ||
| Will the bully crumble? | ||
| He didn't crumble with Gilbert, did he? | ||
| He didn't crumble with Strike. | ||
| sat down by Gilbert too though. | ||
| But Drake has even said in that fight how he's There's a certain amount. | ||
| He was counting how many minutes he was just standing in front of him. | ||
| He said that with both those fights. | ||
| His fight with Gilbert and Kamara Guzman. | ||
| He had the exact amount of time. | ||
| He goes for three minutes and whatever seconds he was just standing in front of him. | ||
| Are you saying that for both guys? | ||
| Kamara was coming out strong in that third fight. | ||
| I know. | ||
| He was coming down strong. | ||
| That was a five-round fight. | ||
| i bet the betting would shift for sure oh sure 100 he started coming on at the end of the second yeah started to yes yeah in the third round it was half of the clear yeah It was all Usman, I thought. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, but it... | ||
| No one. | ||
| Yeah, he's a wrestling too. | ||
| Like, I don't know. | ||
| Do you know Pat Downey? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| All right. | ||
| Well, I've known him since he's a little kid. | ||
| And he was in Tomzot's camp and said, like, he said his wrestling, he goes wrestling is like real good. | ||
| He said he's got top-notch wrestling. | ||
| Like, he talked about, he said, we probably both did better with each other than you would think. | ||
| Like, he did better with wrestling and I did better with the Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
| He said, but he said, like, he said the guy's a a beast. | ||
| He said he's strong. | ||
| He said he's and he said he's a high level wrestler. | ||
| Schaub was down there watching him train and you know they they asked Schaub to they asked Schaub to spar with him. | ||
| He's like fuck you. | ||
| He's like I'm forty something years old. | ||
| I'm not no I'm done. | ||
| I'm not doing this anymore. | ||
| And he said Khamzat was just lighting people up. | ||
| He says he looks really good. | ||
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Nice. | |
| The thing about Khamzat should be a good one. | ||
| All these guys were 170s, right? | ||
| You you're right about that. | ||
| But with 170 comes speed, right? | ||
| And Khamzat's speed is a factor. | ||
| It's a big factor with his hand speed. | ||
| He's, you know, people forget because like what he did to Kevin Holland, the way he could rag dog guys in the gro ground, but what he did to Gerald Mirchard is pretty fucking spooky. | ||
| He did. | ||
| He has a really good punch. | ||
| He has a really good punch. | ||
| He's technical, he's sharp, he's straight on the ground. | ||
| He's a very well rounded guy. | ||
| He's fucking good standing up, man. | ||
| He's good standing up. | ||
| And that's where it's going to be weird. | ||
| That's where I want to see, because duplicity makes everyone look stupid. | ||
| He finds a way. | ||
| He takes every mistake, people. | ||
| He must have got a lot of power. | ||
| But they're not mistakes. | ||
| For he fucking, for sure, has a lot of power. | ||
| Someone did a great breakdown of what he did with Robert Whitaker, where he set up that right hook. | ||
| And the way he was recognizing that Whitaker had this certain pattern. | ||
| And it's not like it looks weird because he just moves different than everybody else. | ||
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He's stiff. | |
| That's all. | ||
| He's stiff. | ||
| Whatever it is, it works. | ||
| It works. | ||
| And when he hits you, it's like he can't hit by a car. | ||
| It doesn't have to be that pretty. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He's got to have power to make guys so nervous about getting hit by him. | ||
| Bro, that guy is so big. | ||
| He looks like a fucking heavyweight when you're next to him. | ||
| How are you a middleweight? | ||
| How are you 185 ever? | ||
| the thing that i that uh that comes that I keep thinking about is like when's the last time he actually though fought a guy with comes out style? | ||
| I mean, who's ever, who's trying to shoot on him besides maybe there was a Derek Brunson or something, but yeah. | ||
| When's the last time you fought a guy that's just going to be no one has a Hamzaat style in the UFC? | ||
| Well, what I like, but even a grappler, a straight wrestler, like what DDP said, he said, look, I'm fully prepared. | ||
| I'm going to get taken down. | ||
| Like he's not in there saying my wrestling, I'm stuffing him. | ||
| He said, I'm going to get taken down, but I'm going to weather the storm and I'm going to be able to get back up and I'm going to be able to survive a strong warm up in a rubber suit. | ||
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Man, you're so stupid. | |
| If you don't want to cheat, you can bend the rules. | ||
| Because it's not cheating. | ||
| I mean, it's not cheating. | ||
| When he gets on top of somebody, man, you definitely don't see see guys getting them off of you, so. | ||
| Well, when you got a guy who's got, I mean, that actually might not be a bad idea. | ||
| Give him those track suit things. | ||
| To get warm up with that. | ||
| Might not be a bad idea. | ||
| Whitaka. | ||
| Because you totally can do that. | ||
| Like, no one could stop you from doing that. | ||
| Whitaka was defending okay when he was down there. | ||
| Well, I mean, everyone remembers his teeth getting shattered, but before that. | ||
| Yeah, he wasn't defending. | ||
| Probably he would have survived because Kamaro survived it too, right? | ||
| It's possible to survive. | ||
| Unless he just, like, what he did to Kevin Holland was kind of crazy. | ||
| Holland almost. | ||
| He just went one to the other just, just. | ||
| Well, here's the thing with him. | ||
| He just crushed him. | ||
| Gilbert, his guard. | ||
| kept him out of it. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| You got to have a decent guard. | ||
| Because he doesn't like it. | ||
| When Gilbert started moving his hips, he said, Nah, I'm out of here. | ||
| Gilbert's actually a really world class Eugene. | ||
| Yeah, how he's doing. | ||
| World class. | ||
| Yeah, Gilbert's dangerous as fuck everywhere. | ||
| You know, it was interesting watching him roll with Rockhold, because I know that, you know, it's not like Rockhold was in camp or prepared for this, and this is Rockhold at its best. | ||
| I don't even know how much he had been training, but Khamzat just handled. | ||
| Yeah, man and handle. | ||
| Just handle them. | ||
| And we know how good Rockhold is. | ||
| Yeah, very good. | ||
| Yeah, bro. | ||
| Listen, what's so exciting about it is there's a chance he could just take him down and do what he does to everyone else. | ||
| There, there is that chance. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| Because he's so good on the floor and he's He comes out so aggressive, but that's the if he survives it, you know, history shows. | ||
| And does he have the confidence to go for it and possibly empty the gas tank? | ||
| Oh, I think. | ||
| And get the finish. | ||
| And if he doesn't, how fucked is he? | ||
| He has no other way. | ||
| I don't think he can take down and smash. | ||
| That's what he wants. | ||
| That's what he's. | ||
| He makes no, you know, you can't adjust. | ||
| That's disguising it. | ||
| Yeah, this whole thing. | ||
| You can't adjust now in the World Championship fight. | ||
| You got to just hit the gas. | ||
| Yeah, I think Brent's instinct's going to kick in and he is a sprinter. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Right. | ||
| But that's the question is, can he sprint for five rounds? | ||
| Because we know DDP can. | ||
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Right. | |
| Him and Sean Strickland, they were ready to have heart heart attacks at the end of that fight. | ||
| They were ready to have heart attacks. | ||
| This is probably like the most elevated heart level we've ever seen in a world championship fight. | ||
| Getting his nose busted like that. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| And fighting with staff. | ||
| He had staff. | ||
| He had staff to the second fight. | ||
| That's why he was listless. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was on antibiotics and everything. | ||
| He was all fucked up. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It fucking's terrible, man. | ||
| That happens all the time. | ||
| All the time. | ||
| That happened with Marab. | ||
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He fucking... | |
| No one even noticed. | ||
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No one even noticed. | |
| Mirab's different. | ||
| He's outworking everybody. | ||
| Like, that's crazy. | ||
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That was the which fight was that? | |
| With the staff? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Was it the Umar fight? | ||
| I think it was the Umar fight. | ||
| Yeah, it was the Umar fight, which was crazy because there was pace that melted Umar and he's doing it while he's on it. | ||
| His back was hurt too for that, wasn't it? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| There were times he wasn't sleeping through the night. | ||
| He couldn't. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It's different. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I saw John Wood the other day. | ||
| They think they're just going to run through Corey. | ||
| Oh, I don't know. | ||
| Did Murrab just go run through Corey? | ||
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Well, something about running through him. | |
| You gotta be real careful with hubris. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Murrab's not joking. | ||
| like that. | ||
| Yeah, that's not Marab saying that. | ||
| Did John Wood say that? | ||
| Well, he, I mean, Marab could have had leg amputated. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| Dude. | ||
| That's Marab. | ||
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They don't need legs. | |
| They could have taken that. | ||
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They only need one leg. | |
| He said, oh, he was just taping it up and going back to practice. | ||
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Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. | |
| Someone close to Marab told me that regular people would have probably had their leg amputated if they had to deal with the staphylococcus infection that he had on his leg. | ||
| Jesus. | ||
| He was just like taping it up and going, I don't believe that. | ||
| Whoever told you that, that's not true. | ||
| They would put antibiotics on that. | ||
| Yeah, they'd be good. | ||
| That's not true. | ||
| They don't just randomly amputate people's legs, I hope. | ||
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| It said he had broken his hand early in the fight. | ||
| Oh, Nurmagomedov did. | ||
| He said he had broken my back in training camp. | ||
| And some days I couldn't get up from the bed. | ||
| I just lay down. | ||
| I don't have a training camp. | ||
| I don't have a Khabib Nurmagomedov to help me train. | ||
| Some days at the PI was closed. | ||
| It was Christmas. | ||
| It was New Year's and weekends. | ||
| And it happened a couple of times. | ||
| Umar was there and the security goes, I'm sorry we can't let you in. | ||
| Yeah, Murrab's different. | ||
| Yeah, Murrab's build different. | ||
| But there's also something about dudes that were from that part of the world. | ||
| That is a war-torn part of the world, and it makes a different kind of man. | ||
| He's the American dream, man. | ||
| I just had him on my pod, and we were talking for over an hour about his whole journey. | ||
| And when he came over, he did not see him. | ||
| I couldn't even communicate with him. | ||
| I could because I have a way, but he didn't speak any English. | ||
| When I see him doing the skits now, the chicken, banana. | ||
| He's funny. | ||
| as shit he's funny he's he's just he goes back and now he goes back to his to Georgia just there the chariots next to him trying to jump on the bus. | ||
| It makes me so happy, man. | ||
| Because you've seen his whole journey. | ||
| When he first came to New York, he was got linked up with fucking retards. | ||
| And these guys were morons. | ||
| And thank God he ran into Longo at the Racey Academy. | ||
| And then he found his way to Longos. | ||
| And then that's a problem, right? | ||
| If you don't know where to go and you wind up at a real bad camp and then they claim you forever. | ||
| Oh, man. | ||
| He had to do it in the gold. | ||
| He had to do it in the gold just like a bad wife. | ||
| This guy was a bad wife. | ||
| That's what I always say. | ||
| It's like a bad marriage. | ||
| Just like a bad marriage. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But he found his way. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, you guys are so good. | ||
| You and Longo, without a doubt, need a reality show. | ||
| I'm gonna need some sort of reality show with you two guys coaching people and then going to dinner with your girls. | ||
| It would be a great show. | ||
| I fucking love it when you guys, I would really love it when you guys were, you know, in the corners when you get miced up. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's the best. | ||
| We have a good time. | ||
| It's great. | ||
| The two of you guys together, it's a fun team. | ||
| Everybody's held out. | ||
| Everybody wants to see a show with you guys. | ||
| I told him last night when he's on your podcast, he's the best. | ||
| You know what's so cool now, man? | ||
| I have my 16-year-old over there. | ||
| He's holding for us. | ||
| It just makes me emotional. | ||
| That's awesome. | ||
| It's so cool, man. | ||
| You know, he's 67. | ||
| He's still fucking going, man. | ||
| Longo. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| But you two in the corner are so uniquely fun it's so fun to watch like if i was a television producer i'm like that is a no-brainer we took our guy down to the flagpole amy paramount plus listen to this paramount plus new merger whatever was happening here new deals so exciting i guess be a paramount show thank you so much pao and ray longo paramount plus going to pizza places talking shit I'm not against it. | ||
| Going to the fights. | ||
| Going to the fights, like talking about your fight. | ||
| See, it's like a built-in show. | ||
| You have fighters that you're training. | ||
| You talk about how he's doing. | ||
| Talk about how he came to you. | ||
| You two guys just talk about the world. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Fucking producers out there. | ||
| Somebody get a listen to Joe. | ||
| Who keeps dinging? | ||
| Is that me? | ||
| It's not me, is it? | ||
| It might be me. | ||
| I don't think it's me. | ||
| I'm pretty sure I've aeroplaned it. | ||
| I think it's me. | ||
| Yeah, it's totally a built-in show. | ||
| You can't miss. | ||
| We have a good time. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| You should do it. | ||
| You know. | ||
| If you have the time. | ||
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All I'm doing is. | |
| You can find me at my school or my... | ||
| my podcast matt's every channel on youtube i'm having fun with that so what guys and then uh dude i'm having dude i do movie reactions you know what i do with that i watch a movie and they react to real time. | ||
| I'm just talking shit watching a movie. | ||
| Oh, that's crazy. | ||
| Fucking fun. | ||
| I play my VR, which is fucking fun. | ||
| And then I have people in. | ||
| Like I had Murray and I had, oh, I had Keith Jardine in the other day. | ||
| Keith Jardine, man, let's plug his new movie. | ||
| What the fuck? | ||
| Kill me again. | ||
| Me and my wife went to Tribeca for the, and I saw Tate. | ||
| Tate's in it. | ||
| Your buddy, Tate Fletcher. | ||
| What a sweetheart. | ||
| He's the best. | ||
| He's such a nice guy. | ||
| He's just what a guy you want to be. | ||
| A big huggable person. | ||
| A huggable bear. | ||
| And it's almost this movie, Kill Me Again. | ||
| He written and directed it, Keith Jardine. | ||
| And it's basically Groundhog Day, but a serial killer. | ||
| Oh, it's really good. | ||
| It was, listen, I wouldn't even bring it up if I thought it was shot, to be honest. | ||
| It was a fun movie. | ||
| You can get it on Amazon Prime. | ||
| I believe you. | ||
| Yeah, it's on Amazon Prime. | ||
| It's on Amazon Prime. | ||
| You can buy it. | ||
| It came out August 8th. | ||
| And I'm proud of him. | ||
| And what a sweetheart that guy is. | ||
| Yeah, he's Jardine. | ||
| Jardine's awesome. | ||
| He was in a great movie called Shot Caller. | ||
| Yeah, that was a shot caller. | ||
| That was a good movie. | ||
| Fuck, Jamie Landis. | ||
| Jamie Landis. | ||
| He gets in, you know, he's driving drunk with his couple. | ||
| He's like a yuppie with another couple. | ||
| You know, something happens. | ||
| The guy gets killed in the backseat. | ||
| He goes to jail. | ||
| Kind of like, you know, white collared. | ||
| But next thing you know, he's got a fucking show. | ||
| He's not a bitch. | ||
| And now he's a hardened motherfucker. | ||
| Fucking shanking people. | ||
| John Bernathal's in there. | ||
| Shot call. | ||
| You like it. | ||
| Shot call is fun. | ||
| Oh, I remember that. | ||
| Look at this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| This was a good fucking movie. | ||
| And Keith Jardin is in this. | ||
| Was Keith a bounty hunter? | ||
| No, he was in this movie. | ||
| He was a ripper. | ||
| No, but was he an actual bounty hunter at one point? | ||
| in his life. | ||
| Shit, man. | ||
| up on the show unless he did I would have remembered see if that's true he was I went over his whole fucking stuff I hope I'm not a magician he was more of a grappler than he was even a striker yeah he was a bounty bounty hunter it was a fucking bounty jarneen worked as a personal trainer uh firefighter football coach minor and bounty hunter minor and bounty hunter that's two of the hardest human beings that have ever lived connected It's so funny. | ||
| He's very soft spoken though. | ||
| He's very like nice. | ||
| It's just like he's a great guy. | ||
| He looks like a fucking guy. | ||
| Had some awesome fights. | ||
| I asked him if he ever, uh, because I said, you know, sometimes I'm at a UFC thing and they'll go, hey, Joe, can I have a picture? | ||
| I'm the wrong ball guy. | ||
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I asked him. | |
| They're not asking about Dana. | ||
| They think I'm Dana. | ||
| I asked him. | ||
| I go, look. | ||
| I go, you gotta answer this for me because have you ever been mistaken for the tech?no Viking. | ||
| You know who I can say? | ||
| He does look like him. | ||
| You know what he does look like. | ||
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Oh my God, he looks exactly like you. | |
| The techno Viking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a fucking guy. | ||
| Jamie pointed out that that might have been staged. | ||
| Really? | ||
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I don't know. | |
| That looks like Jamie. | ||
| Jamie does not like the wool being pulled over his eyes, so he thinks that everything is staged. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Everybody's having a darey. | ||
| Keith Jardine. | ||
| He came in. | ||
| He kicks the guy. | ||
| He looks just like Keith Jardine. | ||
| It's already questionable that's being filmed and this guy's like center stage. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, Jamie, you do have a point there. | ||
| You got a point. | ||
| Give this guy a bottle of water. | ||
| Let's go. | ||
| Yeah, so here he goes. | ||
| If I was still clubbing, this is how he looks. | ||
| Yeah, 100%. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
| He's all mollied up. | ||
| He's ready to go. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Mollied. | ||
| He's probably got that guy's a boss. | ||
| He's probably got one of those cruising doses in his system. | ||
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He's got his minions behind him carrying his bottle. | |
| Probably legit Viking genes too, man. | ||
| At least some of them. | ||
| He looks like it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Got his Thor's hammer around his neck. | ||
| Well, he looks like the 21st century version of it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, what would come on, man? | ||
| The original Vikings probably look like those strong men dudes that you see coming out of Iceland. | ||
| I bet that's what showed up on the fuckers. | ||
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Can you imagine that? | |
| I'm trying to imagine that. | ||
| A bunch of half-thorb jorgs and show up. | ||
| Bro, who's that guy, that Viking dude that fights in welterweight? | ||
| He just fought Chaos Williams. | ||
| Oh, the one looks like a fucking caveman. | ||
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And he brought his name. | |
| He got famous for being ugly. | ||
| Is it Andreas? | ||
| What is his name? | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| He looks just like Keith Jardine. | ||
| That's crazy. | ||
| It is Andreas. | ||
| Jamie, could you go to Chaos Williams Wikipedia and look up his MMA career? | ||
| Because Chaos is fucking good, man. | ||
| He's hard. | ||
| He's hard. | ||
| Dangerous guy and he got warned to fuck this is another one of those dudes what me and DC have been talking about this like extreme physicality is a tool you know and Coleman used to say this yeah he used to say that strength is a skill and I was like it kind of is a skill Andreas Gustafson yeah this guy's fucking terrifying and what you said see go to Andreas Gustafson workout Just Google workout. | ||
| And this dude is a hardcore power lifter. | ||
| Like when you see some of the shit he's doing, the amount of strength that this guy has, you're like, oh, Jesus. | ||
| Like there's guys that are not that big, right? | ||
| Like, you know, see that janitor who pulls pranks on Instagram who walks up to these big meatheads and lifts up the stuff. | ||
| He's not that big, though. | ||
| But these super strong dudes who practice power lifting, you can be incredibly strong and not look like a bodybuilder. | ||
| And that's this guy. | ||
| He's a 185. | ||
| he's a 70 no excuse me 170 170 oh man but this motherfucker is so strong man when he gets a hold of guys he's just ragdolling people. | ||
| You know, Chaos has been very consistent in his career with good takedown defense. | ||
| He knows how to fight guys off, dangerous striker, and he couldn't do shit to this guy. | ||
| It was like he was all over one side. | ||
| Ass whooping, like a real one sided ass whooping that I didn't expect. | ||
| I was like, that is, I thought it would be a good fight and it was just a mauling man. | ||
| I thought Chaos was going to clip him. | ||
| You can easily have the power that Chaos has. | ||
| He puts guys out with one shot, but this dude just tucks his chin down and wades bombs at you until he grips on you. | ||
| and then just starts throwing you around. | ||
| It's 170? | ||
| He's well up to 170. | ||
| I'll tell you who's the dark horse in that division. | ||
| It's pretty impressive. | ||
| Sean Brady. | ||
| Sean Brady. | ||
| I don't even think he's the dark horse. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know. | ||
| Yeah, after that Leon Edwards fight. | ||
| People aren't talking about him enough though. | ||
| That's what I'm saying. | ||
| Bro, that Leon Edwards fight was crazy. | ||
| I'll be with them tomorrow. | ||
| Yeah, tomorrow, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, dude, he's looking great, Sean Brady. | ||
| I love his. | ||
| He's a monster. | ||
| Yeah, he's a monster. | ||
| It's so funny. | ||
| I had him on and he's like, you know, people always talking about me being short for wealth of weight. | ||
| I'm 5'9. | ||
| It's not like I'm 5'6 or I'm like, Sean, I'm your fan. | ||
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Dude. | |
| Come on, dude. | ||
| It's funny. | ||
| But that turtle muscle on his back. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He's trying to get a crush your head muscle. | ||
| He's trying to get that Ian Gary fight. | ||
| I love this. | ||
| Is that what he's looking for right now? | ||
| Well, he'll fight with anybody. | ||
| It's just, well, you know, I would love to see him fight for the title. | ||
| I mean, I think that's a reasonable fight. | ||
| Like with Jack Della, like who's next after if Jack Della and Islam fight, which seems to be exactly what's going to happen. | ||
| Who's next after that? | ||
| Like who's in number one position right now? | ||
| I think Ian Gary has to be up there. | ||
| It's either it's Sean or Bilau. | ||
| Well, right. | ||
| Ian Gary has one loss, right? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because he just, well, he lost. | ||
| That comes out. | ||
| Shock got, right, real close fight, but that one loss sent him back a little bit. | ||
| So Bilal's number one, but you know, I bet they're going to want Bilal to fight somebody else. | ||
| They seem to have a heart on for Bilal. | ||
| I know. | ||
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You know what I mean? | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Nice looking guy. | ||
| The numbers don't mean that's the fight that gets made, right? | ||
| Not always. | ||
| I think Sean Brady's only, the only problem, the only one loss he has is from Bilal, right? | ||
| Can you put that back up, Jamie, so I can see who else is in there? | ||
| No, man. | ||
| So it's like, if you look at that division, you know, that division has gone through so many different changes. | ||
| So you got Shavkot who just had some kind of surgery that's undisclosed, right? | ||
| We don't know what injury he's recovered from, but he had like a pretty significant injury apparently. | ||
| And then you got Leon Kamaru. | ||
| Michael Morales is the real dark horse of that division. | ||
| Right. | ||
| He fucked Gilbert Burns. | ||
| He fucked him up. | ||
| Yeah, that looked like Gilbert just didn't belong. | ||
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Sure did. | |
| And that's weird to see, right? | ||
| And I know it's Gilbert. | ||
| A lot of miles. | ||
| A lot of fights. | ||
| Yeah, I'd like to see Sean Brady get his shot. | ||
| That's what we're working on. | ||
| Dean Thomas. | ||
| How shitty he must be strong. | ||
| He's strong as fuck. | ||
| Yeah, he wears all of us. | ||
| I dude, I like his positional. | ||
| His, his Jiu Jitsu is very, very good for fighting. | ||
| I'll tell you, nowadays, I can't even watch some Jiu Jitsu matches. | ||
| I watch, it's just fucking a lot of scissoring and I'll tell you what, man. | ||
| I was blown away by Kamaru versus Joaquin Buckley. | ||
| I was blown away. | ||
| Oh yeah, yeah. | ||
| He looked great. | ||
| He looked like Kamaru the champion. | ||
| He looked like a real champion. | ||
| He looked like if Joaquin was challenging Kamaru for the title, that's the Kamaro that you would expect to see. | ||
| That's what he looked like. | ||
| He showed some good IQ. | ||
| But also the ability to move, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Like you didn't seem hampered by his knees. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Things that people talk about. | ||
| And that's what we thought he was going to see. | ||
| We thought he was this old ass man with those bad knees. | ||
| It didn't look bad at all. | ||
| And I think, you know, it's a lot of it's mental strength, of sure. | ||
| But it's also like he hasn't really taken a lot of damage other than the big high kick from Leon. | ||
| And, you know, if you go and you watch his fights, it's he had a pretty good war with Colby before he won. | ||
| I mean, they they they they exchanged a lot of blows. | ||
| You know, Gilbert dropped him. | ||
| Remember that? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But but overall not a lot of damage in his career. | ||
| Mostly he's been the dominator. | ||
| You know, so even though he's 37, I think. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's pretty fres fresh. | ||
| I thought it was good to see him go back to his wrestling roots a little bit. | ||
| A lot of times the wrestlers get good with their hands and all of a sudden they forget about what got them to the show and he just straight manhandles it. | ||
| Yeah, he did, but he also looked good on the feet. | ||
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He looked good. | |
| He looked good. | ||
| Yeah, he looked good. | ||
| Yeah, he looked good. | ||
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And just good straight run. | |
| I just saw Sean Brady look great in his last fight with his hands too. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And to do that to Leon, well, you know, Leon knows he can't lose again. | ||
| He, you know, lost the title and he wants to come back and get it back. | ||
| And now all of a sudden you got this turtle shell motherfucker in front of you. | ||
| Right? | ||
| He seems insanely strong. | ||
| How's Colby still in these rankings? | ||
| I was thinking the same thing when I saw it. | ||
| It kind of crazy. | ||
| I wonder how much of that would be, like, because he's still super valuable. | ||
| Like, if you're gonna be. | ||
| Yeah, because if you're a guy, like, why kick him out if you're a guy like Shovkott and they offer you Colby, you know, in the main event of a fight night or something like that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, that's a great fight. | ||
| For both guys, they'll probably make way more money. | ||
| So how does that work with Paramount now? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| That's a. | ||
| Here's the question. | ||
| I thought you'd have the insight. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| I don't I don't talk to Dane about business. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I heard they're raising the I'm more of a I'm almost a socialist when it comes to that shit. | ||
| I would be the worst. | ||
| They'd fucking fire me for sure. | ||
| I would change the pay structure immediately. | ||
| You know, but I wonder if you're, if there's no paper for you. | ||
| Yeah, you want a mint? | ||
| That's a mind mints. | ||
| That's neuro gum. | ||
| The neuro mints. | ||
| I have the gum. | ||
| I need it for my fucking brain give me some of that nice take the last one oh thank you it looks dirty on the outside I had a gummy Yeah, I'm always giving myself mind mints and all shit and I'm still stupid. | ||
| What were we just talking about? | ||
| The pay structure. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| So they used to get the money from pay per view, right? | ||
| So if you were a guyy like Conor McGregor that's going to get two million pay per views, like you get a percentage of that and you know you're set for life, right? | ||
| You get one big one like that and whoo. | ||
| So how does that work now? | ||
| So how does that work now? | ||
| How does it work now if it's for free? | ||
| There's no more pay per view. | ||
| He did say, I did hear him saying he's up in the fight night. | ||
| Yeah, the bonuses. | ||
| I did see that. | ||
| The low hanging fruit that's easiest to answer. | ||
| Bonuses are obviously going up. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| That'll be big. | ||
| And forget about the tide rising with all the other fighters. | ||
| Just the number the bonuses bring to a fighter. | ||
| It's millions of dollars. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Well, that's great. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So then there's a bonus structure like if that many people. | ||
| watch your thing, you get millions of dollars. | ||
| That's what he said. | ||
| That would be cool. | ||
| That sounds great. | ||
| Paramount's got a ton of loot. | ||
| And this is a great move for them. | ||
| And good content too. | ||
| How many people are going to sign up for Paramount Plus if you get free UFCs forever? | ||
| And South Park. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| And South Park. | ||
| And South Park. | ||
| And a bunch of other shows too. | ||
| This is a shitload of shows. | ||
| All of Taylor Sheridan's shows are all Paramount. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
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| But did anybody see this coming? | ||
| Nobody saw this coming. | ||
| Nobody saw this coming. | ||
| Bro, I'm tight with Dana. | ||
| And I talked to him about, we were talking about the problems with this and the problems with that. | ||
| But I need to ask him this weekend in Chicago if it's true that the Netflix people wanted to stop the fights in the Apex. | ||
| They didn't want any fights in the Apex. | ||
| They wanted fights with big crowds. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like they wanted it to be big. | ||
| We wanted it to be big, big, big. | ||
| Like all the fights, big, big, big, yeah. | ||
| One of the best heavyweight fights of all time in terms of the result was Francis Nganno versus Stephen Miocic with no crowd at all in the Apex in the small ring. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It was like one of the best like you want to watch a guy in his prime who's fucking terrified who's figured it all out versus a guy who's got he's a legend, he's a champion, but he's got a lot of miles on him and there's a lot of wars and you see it with him no one there. | ||
| You hear in the huff and huff of each breath. | ||
| Every time Francis hits him, you you fucking feel that thud in your cells. | ||
| Hey, you don't gotta sell me, man. | ||
| I love watching fights at the Apex. | ||
| Oh, I love it. | ||
| That's my favorite. | ||
| Me too. | ||
| I mean, I've really believed that the smaller cage just forces more action. | ||
| That's why my fights are so good. | ||
| I just wondered if they would downsize the arena cage because of the, you know, the quality of the fights that was in the smaller cage. | ||
| The problem with that is, like, when you got a guy that is just very footwork based and has developed his style. | ||
| Yeah, you're fucking large. | ||
| He's not a large one. | ||
| You're fucking him. | ||
| Yeah, but he's developed his style based on his ability to move around a full-size cage. | ||
| The Netflix thing is from a troll account, I think. | ||
| Oh, trolls did it? | ||
| I think so. | ||
| Oh, that's good. | ||
| Well, who knows why they decided to not do it, but man, whoever gets the UFC and does the no pay-per-view model, you just gained millions of subscribers instantly. | ||
| But I'm also like, do you think it'll be better for the casuals now that everybody can? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yeah, for sure. | ||
| Because everybody's going to get every pay-per-view now for free. | ||
| You're going to be scrolling through the channel, it's like, oh, let's see who's writing. | ||
| I wonder how much money I'll save a year and then I'm not fine. | ||
| You know, you tune it in and you watch one Alex Pereira high kick knockout. | ||
| You're like, oh shit. | ||
| And then you're hooked. | ||
| And then the next time it's on, you're like, oh, the UFC's on. | ||
| And then boom, you've got more fans. | ||
| I mean, it's the most exciting for the average spectator because you don't have to know anything. | ||
| You don't have to know shit to watch guys just go to war. | ||
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| I'm just surprised that ESPN didn't step back. | ||
| Well, just, yeah. | ||
| Well, I mean, at seven point, yeah, that's what I'm saying, at seven point seven, like they probably was like, nah, we're good. | ||
| Their app was shit anyway. | ||
| Well, Paramount's giving them a billion dollars a year for seven years. | ||
| I mean, that's wild. | ||
| That's a lot of loot. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm excited about that, Aaron Pico. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| This whole card is a very good card. | ||
| Ron Murphy's no joke. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| who you got on this? | ||
| I might be Renan Murphy's way. | ||
| I'm still in. | ||
| I still am. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think that the UFC jitters is a real thing, man. | ||
| It is. | ||
| The UFC jitters are a real thing and Murphy is no joke. | ||
| No joke. | ||
| He is super solid. | ||
| Super technical everywhere. | ||
| Super footwork. | ||
| And if Aaron wants to be a boxer, this kid is really explosive on his feet. | ||
| He's got the wrestling. | ||
| Murphy is he does, but he doesn't use it enough, I don't believe. | ||
| Murphy to me is very much like Leon Edwards in his prime at 45. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| Very similar, very similar, strong everywhere, super technical, doesn't make any mistakes. | ||
| He's good, man. | ||
| I think Barbosa, I think he's a more aggressive version too. | ||
| Leon could kind of cruise at times where I think Murphy's looking to finish you. | ||
| He's a world championship potential. | ||
| He's certainly a world championship potential. | ||
| He's coming on short notice too. | ||
| Who is? | ||
| Murphy. | ||
| Yeah, but he's a consummate professional. | ||
| He's just having a guy. | ||
| They said straight up, he's ready. | ||
| They said three weeks might be too much time because he's ready all the time. | ||
| Well, this is the word out of that part, that camp is that that guy's always training, and which is what you want to see from a guy like that who's undefeated and also not getting the shine that a lot of other guys in that division are getting. | ||
| Props to them for taking the fight too. | ||
| There's so many good guys in that division, you know, and Ilya is such a star that everybody with Volkanovsky in there, Yair, and everybody kind of got lost. | ||
| Diego is a is it a five rounder? | ||
| It's the co main event. | ||
| It's a three rounder. | ||
| That's a three rounder. | ||
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| Oh shit. | ||
| That could change. | ||
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It's not listed on the website as the co main, but I thought it was. | |
| It's in their space. | ||
| It is, it is, but it's still three rounds. | ||
| I read that today. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| Well, that changes things. | ||
| What about? | ||
| It's interesting because Pico is really good, man. | ||
| But I would have liked to see him against someone, you know, to establish a name for himself. | ||
| I thought you had a really good shot at beating Mozart. | ||
| Well, Mozart is crazy because the grappling for Mozart is just off the charts, but you're not dealing with the kind of kicks that you're dealing with Murphy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| With Murphy, he's he's going to chop you up on the outside and if you're heavy on that front leg because you like boxing, like, ooh, a couple of those calf kicks change everything. | ||
| I mean, he's got a lot of spinning attacks. | ||
| Yeah, a lot of everything. | ||
| He's a pretty dynamic person. | ||
| He's a pretty dynamic person. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| I thought Aljo beat Mozart. | ||
| I thought Mozart wasn't that fun. | ||
| I thought Mozart wasn't that fun. | ||
| Only because the round ended with Mozart on top, but he was dominating.ating that fight I thought Aljo won that fight as well I thought Aljo won that fight it was close but I thought Aljo was close but most far is very very good but that's a good fight for Pico because Pico's an elite grappler and he's got real dangerous hands real dangerous I thought Pico would have beaten him it would have been a great fight for him it would have been an interesting fight for him this is a different fight yeah this is a different fight and I think a more dangerous fight in a lot of ways just because of his style the footwork yeah it's gonna be tough for | ||
| Pico he's tough man Murphy's tough. | ||
| And again, he's one of those guys that is way better than his public persona. | ||
| Like, people don't know about him. | ||
| him. | ||
| There's so many guys in that division, man. | ||
| That division's crazy. | ||
| It's filled with killers. | ||
| Filled with killers. | ||
| This card's a good one. | ||
| Killers from Star Wars too. | ||
| And Diago Lopez, Diago. | ||
| John Silva. | ||
| John Silver Bro that fight Is gonna be Incredible I know That's in Guadalajara. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| It was, but you said it was on your birthday. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's in Texas. | ||
| I might go to that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That John Silva guy looks like a world champion. | ||
| That's another one. | ||
| He looks like a world fucking champion. | ||
| For sure. | ||
| He's a character, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| The barking and shit. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Bro, what he did to Bryce Mitchell was just, he sent them down. | ||
| You showed yourself lightheaded barking out at the wolf earlier. | ||
| Yeah, I got a little lightheaded. | ||
| The fact that he was like so relaxed and laughing and like it's just he just knew it was a matter of time and then submitted him and put him to sleep. | ||
| What's funny about that is Bryce Mitchell who just went down in weight looked great. | ||
| That's the right division for him. | ||
| That's the right division for him. | ||
| And I mean, he's got two choices bulk way up and cut down, which is what most of these guys are doing. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or go to 135, which he looked great. | ||
| And that was just discipline for him. | ||
| Just got to live a better life. | ||
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Right. | |
| Because he was never like real ripped. | ||
| No. | ||
| At 45. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's eating cornbread on the farm and shit right now. | ||
| I don't know what he eats. | ||
| I'm sure he eats healthy. | ||
| He's, I mean, he's a very good grappler, I'll tell you that. | ||
| That guy's dangerous. | ||
| He's got really, really good Jiu Jitsu, really smart. | ||
| I've seen a lot of his tutorials online, like, very, very good stuff. | ||
| But, you know, John Silva's just a different thing, man. | ||
| There's guys that are just better everywhere. | ||
| Yeah, and I thought he would have given Ilya a problem. | ||
| I think so too. | ||
| Yeah, I think if Ilya stayed down and he fought John Silva, I thought that was gonna be a problem for Ilya. | ||
| Yeah, both have one punch knockout power. | ||
| And John Silva's a very good kicker. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's different. | ||
| Like Ilya does not throw a whole lot of kicks and most of them are to the legs, right? | ||
| Ilya's not throwing any head kicks. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Sure he can. | ||
| I mean, he might do that just because we're talking shit right now. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| But what Ilya does do is he touches you and that's what Farazah Hobby calls the touch of death. | ||
| He's got that touch of death, man. | ||
| When he did that shit to Charles, I was like, I can't even believe I'm seeing this. | ||
| They folded him. | ||
| Folded him. | ||
| You're on the bed on the car right there. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Remember we talked about that? | ||
| Like, yo, yeah. | ||
| I think we were in the back talk. | ||
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It was like, yo, this is crazy, man. | |
| No one should be doing this. | ||
| And he goes out there and does it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like Arnold on Pump and Iron when he was, remember, he's telling me Fregno at breakfast. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I've called my parents on one already. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Oh, he's crazy. | |
| That's a big difference though. | ||
| All he has to do is flex. | ||
| And his underweight. | ||
| Ilya had to go out there and knock out Charles Oliver with one punch. | ||
| That was wild, man. | ||
| That dude has pow. | ||
| He looked good on the floor, too. | ||
| He wasn't. | ||
| He's a good, like, man, I saw, like I said, I saw footage of him and Mirab wrestling, like, you know, I don't know where they were, and I didn't see anybody get caught in the video, but like, Ilya just seemed to be one step ahead in the wrestling exchanges, you know? | ||
| So he's definitely, he's at least on Mirab's level, and Mirab's a savage. | ||
| You know what he does? | ||
| It's really interesting. | ||
| He talked about it on the podcast. | ||
| He trains each sport individually and then he puts them all together. | ||
| So he doesn't train MMA Jiu Jitsu, he trains Jiu Jitsu with Jiu Jitsu guys. | ||
| So he trains with elite Jiu Jitsu guys, elite wrestlers, he wrestles with elite wrestlers, boxes with elite boxers, does everything and then puts it all together himself. | ||
| I mean, that is the way to do it. | ||
| But if it's like putting it together, right? | ||
| Yeah, right. | ||
| Interesting how some camps don't do that. | ||
| You go there and you know, you have everybody doing MMA. | ||
| He's like entering into Jiu Jitsu spaces, training there, entering into boxing spaces. | ||
| I think it's funny. | ||
| And because of that, like, we all know that the boxing in boxing is at a higher level than the boxing in the UFC. | ||
| There's no way to be as good as. | ||
| as good as David Benavidez if you're not boxing your whole fucking life and doing it every day and only doing that. | ||
| There's no way you're not going to be as good as I am for sure. | ||
| And so we're we know that. | ||
| So but if you can get more closer to that by training with them and only training with them, you get Aaliyah Tiberia. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that's what you get. | ||
| That's what you get. | ||
| You get a guy who's boxing with boxers. | ||
| Yeah, I think you retain more details. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| But man, the discipline you have to have to do all those things with the same kind of intensity and then put it all together. | ||
| Well, that's what I mean. | ||
| He's got a very like he's and that's the benefit of not having like this big camp doing it all. | ||
| Like when you're just yourself and everyone around you is helping you get to these places and do those things, it's a huge benefit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it's also like today we know what everyone else can do too. | ||
| Like if you're at a certain level like Illy is already, you know your abilities, like you don't necessarily have to be in a camp where there's a bunch of people. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| Like you don't need that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know which guys you have to bring in for sparring partners. | ||
| Concentrate everything on you. | ||
| That way you're not dealing with all these dudes in the locker room that maybe you got beef with and Colby's talking shit about your girlfriend. | ||
| You're just trying to use the sauna. | ||
| Fuck off, Colby. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It's like there's something to be said for those really small camps. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think, you know, as we move forward and evolve, man, I think that's the direction it's going. | ||
| Like all the big guys are going to be like, Yeah, for sure. | ||
| Could you imagine Floyd Mayweather in class with everybody else? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Okay. | |
| You go, I go. | ||
| That shouldn't happen. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| With a blue belt Jiu Jitsu club. | ||
| Yeah, exactly. | ||
| That's a good point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, and most of those guys would take their camps outside. | ||
| You know, like Muhammad Ali did it. | ||
| Tyson did it. | ||
| A lot of these guys., they would go somewhere. | ||
| Go to Big Bear. | ||
| Yeah, La Hoya did that. | ||
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| Shoo, what about Crawford and Canelo? | ||
| What do you think of that? | ||
| Personally, I'm a big Crawford fan, so I'm going to lean his way. | ||
| My only concern is just the size. | ||
| It didn't look like Terrence's power transferred in the last fight, so we need to up some more, you know what I mean? | ||
| Part of the problem with that is Major Bob is really good. | ||
| really fucking good. | ||
| I mean, but I just think Crawford is... | ||
| It's going to be interesting. | ||
| to tell you that. | ||
| What do you think? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| You know, it's a big jump to go from 54, which was a step up from 47, right? | ||
| And so it goes to 54, and now he's going to 68. | ||
| That's so much weight. | ||
| A lot of weight. | ||
| But Terence is, I think, he's the best switch hitter since Hagler. | ||
| They claim Hagler was my favorite. | ||
| They claim, I mean, they claim he's walking around like a buck ninety or something. | ||
| And you do know he's a wrestler. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he's got that mentality. | ||
| He also built up slowly. | ||
| Like he took his time. | ||
| Like it's been a long time training for this fight. | ||
| He was, he came on this podcast more than a year ago and he was talking about that, that's the fight he wants. | ||
| And that was a long time. | ||
| So he's been trying to get that fight for a long time. | ||
| So knowing after he beat Errol Spence that he wasn't ever going to fight at that weight again and then going up fighting Madrymov and then knowing he's got like at least a year before he fights Alvarez. | ||
| He got pretty big. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, I like Yeah, I'm leaning, bud. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's slick, man. | ||
| He's slick. | ||
| He's super intelligent. | ||
| Like he sets traps. | ||
| He does stuff. | ||
| And then, you know, there's a bunch of great breakdown videos of particularly the Errol Spence fight, like him setting traps. | ||
| It's just he's a very high level guy, but Canelo is dangerous. | ||
| He broke Billy Joe Saunders' whole face. | ||
| Broke his whole face. | ||
| What he did to Amir Khan, remember that? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Oh, embarrassing. | ||
| Slordy. | ||
| Barrassing. | ||
| Slordy. | ||
| And never been down. | ||
| Never been dropped. | ||
| Canelo just started. | ||
| Yeah, Terrance and I, they rented out the Apex for a while. | ||
| I was training there. | ||
| Kids running, I was the kids running around all on the mat. | ||
| I was going, get these badass kids out of here. | ||
| He was using the Apex? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Why was he using the Apex? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| I'd see it with thirty people, you know, talking about running over thirty people. | ||
| Yeah, half of them in suits. | ||
| How many? | ||
| How many times did he use it? | ||
| Oh, he was there for a while. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, they were training at the Apex. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| And this was getting ready for this fight? | ||
| Yeah, getting ready for this fight. | ||
| Well, that makes sense because the UFC is co-provided. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Dane has a part of it. | ||
| I saw on their website, I saw, like, you know, by the Canelo Crawford fight. | ||
| In my head, I was like, holy shit. | ||
| And then I was like, oh yeah, Dane is involved with this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's something you never thought you'd see. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| It's because it's like, wonder how that's going to affect combat sports. | ||
| Like, what's going to happen? | ||
| I mean, if the UFC model gets, if they start making fights that people want. | ||
| Like, there's a lot of fights that people just want. | ||
| They just don't get, like, if David Benavides and Canelo Alvarez were in the UFC, that would be the fight to make. | ||
| The UFC would have to figure out. | ||
| We're going to make it. | ||
| Hey guys, hey guys. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| These are the guys. | ||
| You guys have to fight. | ||
| This is the fight. | ||
| It can't be, I'm going to do something else. | ||
| I'm going to fight Jake Paul. | ||
| It's got to be, this is the fight. | ||
| They've got to change their culture, though, you know, because a loss in boxing means a lot more than a loss in MMA. | ||
| Like, the MMA fans are more accepting, especially if the fight was good, where in boxing, their whole role is to build you to 20 so they can get you title fights. | ||
| And they're finding people for you along the way. | ||
| Well, Canell lost to Bival and he lost to Floyd. | ||
| And I don't think it really damaged him that much. | ||
| He's still a superstar. | ||
| Well, Floyd, he was, at that time, Floyd was the superstar so i think it probably i mean you know floyd jumped him at the right time and bival uh like i mean again canelo was doing his thing moving up and wade and things of that sort yeah as far as business model i wonder if he's gonna with daner involved like the problem with boxing is nobody gives a about the undercard they show up with the main card is it possible for him to make it as exciting as a ufc where he's got the whole lineup with his fights you want to see is there that many | ||
| boxers out there that oh yeah for sure they can do that and that they're they're trying to do that and that's one of the things that they're doing with uh those riad series fights yeah so like you're trying to create the league and i think that's where it gets all into the legislation and all that stuff is changing the Ali Act and all that stuff. | ||
| So I mean, it gets a little tricky, but I mean, the goal is to create a league to where boxers can go and then like losses won't mean as much. | ||
| That might see that might change right there. | ||
| Because nobody really gives a fuck that much with the mixed martial arts. | ||
| You got your fan favorites, you got guys you want to see, you got fights you want to make. | ||
| People give them shit about what Herrera got knocked out by Izzy and he didn't lose anything. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Nothing. | ||
| Zero. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| And then he came back and won the light heavyweight title and everybody's like, he's back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Shooting his arrows. | ||
| He's back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Best walk out ever. | ||
| Best walk out ever. | ||
| No one's walk out is like his. | ||
| It's h a good fight. | ||
| Calum Walsh and Fernando Vargas junior. | ||
| That's a good fight. | ||
| Fernando Vargas junior. | ||
| That's great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So these are two good fights. | ||
| There's two good fights underneath that as well. | ||
| But it's like they're going to have to do this consistently and build these people up and have, you know, real good video series like the UFC does with Embedded and what they do with the countdown shows and just really get everyone excited about it. | ||
| I mean, is that a bad thing, no, for that? | ||
| I mean, no. | ||
| Because people are being critical of the idea of that, but to me, it sounds like a good thing. | ||
| Nonsense. | ||
| To get a bunch of high-end fights on one card. | ||
| Well, no, I'm just saying like the idea of like a league for boxers to where there's a promotion that will do stuff like that for them because boxing's not doing it for them. | ||
| Well, it's all in how much money is getting distributed, right? | ||
| So the boxers that make a lot of money are the Canelos, the Floyds, the people that are the superstars. | ||
| They make a lot of money. | ||
| But dudes that fight on undercards that you're watching on TV don't make shit. | ||
| And that's where everybody gets confused. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You watch UFC fights and there's people that are undercards that are making way more money than the undercard people in a boxing game. | ||
| Right. | ||
| way more money. | ||
| Tons. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| it depends on who's on the card you know it really the the the Whereas in the UFC, it's probably a more spread through a little bit more spread through the bigger middle class. | ||
| Yeah, but they don't have a high end that's the same. | ||
| Like Usyk made 114 million something like that. | ||
| How much does that feel? | ||
| Last fight with Dubois. | ||
| How many buys is that? | ||
| And Dubois made like 70 something million. | ||
| They're just throwing that oil money. | ||
| I might even be selling Usyk's number wrong. | ||
| I think it might have been like 130. | ||
| That's ridiculous. | ||
| Yo, crazy money. | ||
| Crazy money for that Dubois fight. | ||
| So that's the difference. | ||
| So that's only possible with the boxing model. | ||
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Right. | |
| So the guys who eat the most are going to eat the most most with the boxing model. | ||
| But the people underneath that are not going to be doing nearly as well. | ||
| You think that fight made any money? | ||
| That's a good question. | ||
| If I'm giving $200 million out between the two guys that are fighting the fight, they're not getting that many pay-per-views. | ||
| Where do the money come from? | ||
| Bro, they got that black gold flowing out of that crown, baby. | ||
| I was about to say, that's crazy. | ||
| How do you sustain that business model, though? | ||
| if that's how they're doing it right now. | ||
| like people scream about these guys making more money but a like the ufc would be out of business if they paid that money because they're just not bringing that money in more get the saudis to pay everybody the same. | ||
| Let's take advantage of that black goal. | ||
| Those dudes don't give a fuck. | ||
| That money for them is like me ordering a pizza. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Like, hey, everybody gotta love pizza. | ||
| I'll make a call. | ||
| I'll get a pizza delivered. | ||
| They don't give a fuck. | ||
| They're making insane amounts of money. | ||
| Like, we don't even know how much money they have because it's not public. | ||
| It's not like us. | ||
| Like, you know, like Bezos has to like disclose his wealth. | ||
| Like, the richest man in the world. | ||
| Like, are you sure? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you gotta think it's gotta be so much if they're paying these guys $100 million to box. | ||
| To box. | ||
| Not even do nothing like world changing. | ||
| I think that's why Canelo was holding. | ||
| out with Benavidez, because the number that I heard was 200 million. | ||
| He wanted 200 million dollars. | ||
| Wow, damn. | ||
| To fight Benavidez. | ||
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Got my money. | |
| Like, it seems like they're kind of close to that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, you know, if they're getting in the 130s for Usyk, like, this is crazy. | ||
| That's so much money. | ||
| To guarantee some money. | ||
| You gotta, if they do a new model, they gotta, like, look, the early prelims, shit, I don't miss those. | ||
| You got Edson Barbosa on early prelims. | ||
| That's a Dracar close. | ||
| That's a deep man. | ||
| I mean, that's a fucking sick fight right there. | ||
| Yeah, two guys that want to bang it out. | ||
| I like that Dracar close. | ||
| He's never had his, his quite his day like he gets to a certain level yeah and then uh what is his name the fucking uh parouche parouche dareush yeah give me another uh minfin but uh you know he looked great in his last fight yeah yeah but he looked real good against moicano he looked real good against moicano right yeah he's He's a great fighter and he's getting a little bit older too. | ||
| You know, he fools you with that great head. | ||
| And he looks like he's 50. | ||
| Yeah, he's like 36. | ||
| Yeah, he's like, oh, yeah. | ||
| He's a savage. | ||
| He did great in that Moicano fight. | ||
| Yeah, he's very good, man. | ||
| It's a great time for watching fights. | ||
| You know, who else is on the card this weekend? | ||
| I was that Jeff was Jeff Neil. | ||
| Jeff Neil and Protes. | ||
| Oh, that's right. | ||
| Tim Elliott and Kai Asuka. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Bro, Protes. | ||
| Protes and Jeff Neil. | ||
| That could be a banger. | ||
| And I think it all depends on which Jeff Neil shows up. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| If the good ones show up, I think he knocks Protes out. | ||
| What about I think Carlos Protes takes this in the first round with a knockout. | ||
| Oh, and then it's Jared Cannonier and Michael Page. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's the puzzle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What about how that dude just goes from middleweight to welterweight? | ||
| It doesn't give a fuck. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Just and no one even seems to talk about the fact that he's going up and down in weight. | ||
| I'm just a huge fan. | ||
| and he's like 6'4. | ||
| I'm a huge fan. | ||
| He's crazy that he can make light that he can make welterweight, but also that he's a super fight, I think. | ||
| The only person who figured him out was Ian Gary. | ||
| You got to drag him to the ground. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| Brian Bowne and Ruizaboyov. | ||
| That's a good fight. | ||
| Yeah, that's a good fight. | ||
| That dude is gigantic. | ||
| He was welterweight for a while too, but he couldn't. | ||
| Yeah, remember? | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| He lost to Joaquim. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He was like a 6'5 welterweight. | ||
| But he hits hard. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Dangerous. | ||
| Dangerous dude. | ||
| What? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So he went up to 185. | ||
| Yeah, he trains in Philly. | ||
| I think he was out training with Homes out a little bit though. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, a little bit for this camp. | ||
| Was this his second or third middleweight? | ||
| Because he quit, well, I think that last Buckley fight, he was like, enough of this welterweight bullshit. | ||
| Brian Battle is, I love when he fucking, so it's a second fight. | ||
| I love smallest man. | ||
| Brian Battle fought in France, was it? | ||
| In Paris? | ||
| Oh, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's like, there's no way he thinks I'm going to lose a fist fight to a French dude. | ||
| There's no way the punch on him. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| He's going to lose his life. | ||
| He's got a lot of fun, man. | ||
| Brian's got a lot of fun, man. | ||
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Brian's got a lot of fun. | |
| Yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| To a French dude. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Don't boot him. | ||
| Oh, he's fucking bad. | ||
| Well, everybody's got to remember that' that's what Colby did when he beat Damien Maya. | ||
| Beat Damien Maya in Brazil. | ||
| He was less classy though, like way less. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| But he was going full WWE heel. | ||
| It saved his life. | ||
| It saved his career. | ||
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Yeah, for sure. | |
| Oh, it made him millions. | ||
| It made him millions. | ||
| Because they were cutting him. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's not to sell your soul if you want to be set. | ||
| I agree. | ||
| But there's something to be said. | ||
| If you're if you're purely business minded, talk a lot of shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| About people's dead fathers, about wives. | ||
| What a piece of shit. | ||
| No, his way. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| You talk like that. | ||
| You look over your shoulder. | ||
| He could be having a cup of tea in fucking London a year from now, ten years from now. | ||
| Now, if Leon Edwards runs into, what do you think is going to happen? | ||
| Remember you brought up my dead father, motherfucker? | ||
| I mean, dude, there's stuff, stuff, some stuff you could do for the entertainment, but then, amen, there's a line we've talked about repercussions, bro. | ||
| You don't want to talk about someone's wife or kids or a dead parent. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, it's the same thing. | ||
| Even McConnor in the beginning, he was a funny shit talker, and then it seemed later in the career, it was more almost like forced, like trying to be darker. | ||
| It got darker. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It got darker. | ||
| It's no fun. | ||
| Well, it's also you're dealing with people that are dealing with the pressures of being at the top of one of the most dangerous occupations in the world. | ||
| And every day when you go to bed, you know there's some dude out there that wants to kick you in the fucking dick. | ||
| Like, he's out there right now. | ||
| He's out there training and that pressure, like, sometimes wears on guys. | ||
| And over the course of time, they get, like, neurological fatigue. | ||
| Like, like, you're just fatigued from the, just the strain. | ||
| Just don't give a fuck no more. | ||
| You just start saying dump. | ||
| And then you got CTE. | ||
| And, you know, so there's a lot of things going on. | ||
| I mean, also, the pockets get fatter under that microscope even more. | ||
| And then there's, you have to take him out. | ||
| He gets crazy. | ||
| And he probably gets the good stuff. | ||
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| I've never tried Coke, but if I was gonna, I'd try it from Connor. | ||
| Man, it's not even like hiding it, man. | ||
| It's closer to the truth. | ||
| Hey, bro, you gotta love that part of him. | ||
| Yeah, he don't give a fuck. | ||
| He's a pure savage. | ||
| Yeah, he don't care about his body. | ||
| He's a pure savage. | ||
| That's also why he was so good at fighting, man. | ||
| In the middle of the Jose Aldo fight, I remember looking in his eyes and watching how calm, like genuinely calm he was. | ||
| I'm like, this guy just, and Dana said it best. | ||
| He's like, he eats pressure. | ||
| He just eats it. | ||
| He likes it. | ||
| He wants it to be chaos. | ||
| I was just. | ||
| It's got a guy say that, but they don't really believe it. | ||
| Yeah, I was at that fight. | ||
| Thank you, Joe. | ||
| And when he came in, like I told a story to everybody about him, when he came in, did his thing, he ran around the cage, and then he went in the center of the cage, and he just fucking went like this. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And the place erupted, and I was like, God Almighty, how fucking... | ||
| I don't think she came. | ||
| I did the walk-out song for that one. | ||
| It was one of them. | ||
| She did the walk-out song for it. | ||
| Yeah, my wife sang it live. | ||
| And it was bone chilling. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Oh shit. | ||
| You know what's a funny thing is when you see a clip of him saying that there's somebody's interviewing him and he goes about partying. | ||
| He goes, partying is weakness for your soul or some shit like that. | ||
| And then there's a clip of him now. | ||
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Fucking going. | |
| At least he's the Blade music behind him. | ||
| The soul took a head. | ||
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Right? | |
| That opening scene of Blade. | ||
| But no, he was something else. | ||
| His Chad Mendes fight. | ||
| my god like how much shit he was talking to him but you're still in it like even he got rocked he goes down he still comes up and still knocks him out eddie alvarez oh new york that was a master class yeah My God, I mean going up to challenge for a second world title and hitting the Matrix. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The whole Matrix in a fight with a killer. | ||
| Like Eddie's a fucking killer, man. | ||
| Definitely. | ||
| What he did to Rafael Dosangos to win the title. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wild performance. | ||
| Those fights that he had with Chandler that those guys took ten years off each other's lives. | ||
| Sorry, my ass. | ||
| Yeah, go, go, go, go. | ||
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| We got those toilets. | ||
| They're the best. | ||
| There it is. | ||
| Here she goes. | ||
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This was the fight before. | |
| This was the Chad Mendez fight. | ||
| UFC 189. | ||
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Oh. | |
| Didn't sound as loud, tartan. | ||
| But the angel of spells or the lefty swounds rang out it. | ||
| And the best part about this is how he walks out with his giant fucking leprechaun smile on his face. | ||
| Yeah, watch this. | ||
| Get to where he walks out, Jamie. | ||
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The rain so tight in the springing of the air. | |
| While the world did go. | ||
| Look at him. | ||
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He's with deep amaze at the fearless man. | |
| But yes, That dude just knew how to handle pressure. | ||
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Yeah, he thrived in it. | |
| All right, Jimmy. | ||
| That was a fight that he couldn't even grapple. | ||
| He couldn't even grapple in training camp. | ||
| He fucked his knee up. | ||
| And that's one of the reasons why Chad was able to take him down so easily. | ||
| He had a hard time training for that fight. | ||
| And he fucked Chad up. | ||
| He got up off the sofa for this one. | ||
| Oh, yeah, he did too. | ||
| He took it on seven days or something. | ||
| Yep. | ||
| Bro, Chad's second fight with Aldo, he got fucked. | ||
| I remember I reached out to him after the fight. | ||
| I'm like, damn dude, because the first round after the bell, Aldo cracks him and rocks him. | ||
| Like for the first time in the fight, he got rocked. | ||
| And clearly after the bell, I'm like, damn, that's terrible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| After you got knocked out by the guy in the first fight, you come back in the second fight. | ||
| The first round is wildly entertaining. | ||
| And then you get hit with a shot after the bell, yeah. | ||
| I mean, it was still a great fight though. | ||
| It's still a great fight, but it makes me wonder, like if that shot doesn't land, that's a real shot, man. | ||
| That was a different, that was like a real, like you're almost outshot yeah and if you get hit with one of those in a fight that significantly changes the fight yeah significantly changes it give me some volume left on the side of the head of mendez uppercut i mean that's kind of way after the buzzer right way after the shut in too but and that dropped him but aldo was coming on strong clearly aldo was coming on strong Yeah, | ||
| dude, prime Aldo, I don't know who's better. | ||
| That guy's a fucking monster. | ||
| It's amazing how good he still is when he fought Zahabi. | ||
| And I think he had his gloves down. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I was like, damn, dude, he's still really fucking good and really fast. | ||
| And down a weight class instead of up as he got older. | ||
| Most guys don't go down weight class. | ||
| I know, but I mean, when you look at how muscular he is at 45 and then you think about like what Max did to him, that muscle comes with a price, you know, and when Max put that pace on him, like he could keep up. | ||
| He was the first guy to really expose him and put that pace. | ||
| Jose was all fast twitch. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| I mean, when he double kneed fucking Cub Swan. | ||
| Oh, how about this? | ||
| Marab didn't take him down. | ||
| I know. | ||
| How could he take him down? | ||
| How crazy is that? | ||
| He does a great takedown deal. | ||
| 38 years into his career. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Like, and Marab couldn't take that guy down. | ||
| Couldn't take him down. | ||
| Bro, he, his balance is crap. | ||
| He took down, what's his name? | ||
| Pewter Jan like ten times. | ||
| Yeah, he couldn't take down Aldo. | ||
| Couldn't take Aldo down. | ||
| Yeah, that's wild. | ||
| Yeah, and Aldo's Jiu Jitsu was good. | ||
| Yeah, very good. | ||
| Here's that double knee. | ||
| Like, wow. | ||
| What the fuck, man? | ||
| And Cub was a stud too. | ||
| Oh, bro, he was a monster. | ||
| Aldo was a. | ||
| Look, he's trying to hit him even after the referees pulled him off. | ||
| WEC was a double knee to the dome. | ||
| He had some talent. | ||
| Oh, yeah, for sure, man. | ||
| And this was when Aldo was in his. | ||
| He was different. | ||
| He was different. | ||
| He was doing leg kicks. | ||
| Remember he murdered Uriah? | ||
| Uriah's leg kicks. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh, my God. | ||
| Yeah, Uriah, like, that leg was fucked up, man. | ||
| Yeah, he told me two weeks he was on crutches. | ||
| Two weeks he was on crutches. | ||
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| Yeah, man. | ||
| He was in his prime. | ||
| He was something really special. | ||
| But, you know, it's like, how long can you keep that up? | ||
| He's kept it up more than anybody, like really, because he's still at a world cloud, like a world class caliber at Bantamweight. | ||
| I mean, he was dude for 10 years, nobody touched him. | ||
| That's a long time to reign, especially in a weight division like that, where the talent keeps coming. | ||
| He just kind of gassed out in that last round because he was going for the finish. | ||
| He emptied out and Zahabi survived. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, you could make an argument for Aldo in that. | ||
| It was a close fight. | ||
| I didn't think he got stomped out or anything. | ||
| But I mean, how good was he to himself to know that he's retiring probably because he feels like he can't do it at the level he knows he can't. | ||
| And he's still doing it at a high level. | ||
| You know what I'm saying? | ||
| But in his head, he's like, I'm not doing it at the level I want to be able to do it. | ||
| So I'm just going to retire. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That division, man. | ||
| Between 35 and 45, it's interesting that 25 gets so little love. | ||
| Like Pantoja is only 10 pounds lighter. | ||
| I know, I know. | ||
| He loves him. | ||
| He's a straight up killer. | ||
| He's a straight up killer. | ||
| It is crazy though. | ||
| Nobody cared about Mighty Mouse, and that guy was maybe the top martial artist in the league. | ||
| Oh, that takedown to arm lock that top. | ||
| Oh, red board. | ||
| I don't know if you'll ever see something like that again. | ||
| But it's crazy that it's only 10 pounds. | ||
| I know. | ||
| How do you guys know? | ||
| You can't tell the difference. | ||
| How do you tell the difference? | ||
| People get real weird. | ||
| They get real weird with sizes. | ||
| They just have this bias. | ||
| I mean, it was like our shit. | ||
| We were lightweights, and they cut our division after that little tournament. | ||
| And who would have thought that the lightweights would be the best division in the UFC? | ||
| It was going away, too. | ||
| back up to welt the weight i didn't just go why i mean i was making weight i was making guys you know well the ufc just had a weird position i mean when when before it really took off, they were just trying to figure out, we got to figure out a way to make money doing this thing. | ||
| What do people not want to see? | ||
| And if someone has this idea, oh, the problem is the lighterweight divisions. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Those are the most exciting ones. | ||
| Look at them now. | ||
| Like the crazy fights you've seen. | ||
| 35, 45, 55. | ||
| Pantoshi is a great champ, man. | ||
| How he defended it? | ||
| What, three, four times? | ||
| What did he do? | ||
| He's so good too. | ||
| And he massacres everybody. | ||
| Great Jiu-Jitsu. | ||
| He's not really striking. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He takes torture well too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's an animal. | ||
| He made Kai Carr France look bad. | ||
| And the first fight was good. | ||
| I know. | ||
| They had a good fight like nine years ago or eight years ago, what it was. | ||
| But the difference between how much better Pantozio was right away was obvious. | ||
| He's another guy. | ||
| He was doing Uber Eats when he was here fighting in the UFC and he was still fucking working. | ||
| He's a real humble guy. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's like a real Yeah. | ||
| Just the sweetheart of a guy. | ||
| Good for him. | ||
| You know, he's a guy you want to see do well. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| But that's why I wish the guy got more love. | ||
| It's like, I don't understand. | ||
| You know, if he was 145, he'd be a superstar. | ||
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Right? | |
| You know? | ||
| Just the idea of being a flyweight just has people spooked out to root for him. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I don't get it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's weird. | ||
| It's weird, but it's always been that way. | ||
| Even Sehudo. | ||
| when he was a champ. | ||
| And when Mighty Mouse was a champ, kind of with everybody. | ||
| Figueredo didn't get the love that he deserved. | ||
| Brandon Royval. | ||
| Rob's getting the love. | ||
| He's getting a lot of love. | ||
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Definitely. | |
| But it's always like, yeah, but they're flyweights. | ||
| Yeah, I know, yeah, but flyweights are worse to vicious. | ||
| No, they're not. | ||
| I wonder what the biggest flyweight pay-per-view of all time was. | ||
| Like how many people... | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| It would have to be... | ||
| It's got to be pretty low. | ||
| It would have to be a Mighty Mouse one, probably. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Wouldn't you think? | ||
| I saw him talking about that before. | ||
| Maybe the more pay-per-view buys these days. | ||
| Yeah, I would think it may have been when Pantoja did it in Brazil because they probably had a lot of Brazilians on the card. | ||
| Right, right. | ||
| Pantoja, Ursaig. | ||
| That was a good fight, too. | ||
| But I bet it's like not high. | ||
| Yeah, it's pretty low. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Shit, man. | ||
| I enjoy it. | ||
| I enjoy... | ||
| I love it. | ||
| I enjoy all the fucking weekly. | ||
| It's all I watch, man. | ||
| Even though I can't even watch the boxing. | ||
| I wish I could. | ||
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I don't know. | |
| It's just so, it's not nearly as entertaining as the mixed motion. | ||
| arts and the fact that there's one on like every week i just i need it to be a good one like i like two good boxers i'll i'll tune in i'm a boxing fan too but i mean if i have a choice i'm gonna watch it did you watch usic and dubois i did yeah usic's like Lemenchenko plus 100 pounds. | ||
| He's got great footwork. | ||
| He's a great technical boxer. | ||
| Now he's starting to put people out too. | ||
| Before he was just out boxing people. | ||
| Especially Dubois, when you see what he did to AJ. | ||
| What is he going to do? | ||
| He's beat everybody twice in the heavyweight division. | ||
| Who do they have left for him? | ||
| Well, Tyson Fury was talking about coming back, but then he looks like he changed his mind. | ||
| He decided. | ||
| Yeah, it's like he's a young man in sport. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's not that old. | ||
| But if anybody could have beaten him, it could have been Tyson Fury in his prime. | ||
| Because particularly, you know, in, you know., in moments in the first fight, especially in the early rounds, before he got dropped in the ninth, he was doing really well. | ||
| He was lighting him up. | ||
| More damage, if you heard it. | ||
| I've never seen Usyk take in a fight, ever. | ||
| And more clean shots that were landing. | ||
| I mean, look, Tyson was a fantastic boxer. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Don't let the dad body fool you. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| I mean, he was late on his feet, you know, very technical. | ||
| Like, I mean, he obviously has a size and reach advantage over Usyk. | ||
| And when he gets that jab poppin' he's tough to beat. | ||
| Yeah, it's not just a jab. | ||
| He's got a slick uppercut. | ||
| He's got a crisp right. | ||
| He's got a great head movement. | ||
| His defensive slick. | ||
| He's a all time great boxer., all time great. | ||
| Is Francis still boxing or is he doing everything? | ||
| He's going to do both. | ||
| Is he going to do it again? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They were talking about setting up a Francis Deontay Wilder fight. | ||
| That would be interesting. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They should they need to make that happen. | ||
| But boxing, you always get sucked in. | ||
| It's like there's these stories like, are they doing that? | ||
| Are they doing that? | ||
| And then they don't do it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Are they doing it? | ||
| Are they doing it? | ||
| And then they don't do it. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Are they doing it? | ||
| Are they doing it? | ||
| I mean, that's one of the problems with the sport. | ||
| Well, this is the Benavidez Canelo situation. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Because if you ask the average, if you want a hardcore boxing fan's dream fight, it's not necessarily Canelo and Crawford, which is a great fight, but you got this thing where Crawford's jumping off all this weight. | ||
| You're like, man, I don't know. | ||
| But the great fight is Canelo Benavidezides. | ||
| Everybody knows it. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Everybody knows it. | ||
| That's the fight. | ||
| Can't make it happen though. | ||
| It's been going on forever. | ||
| Pacquiao should have fought Floyd alone. | ||
| That's what I was going to say. | ||
| Like it happens all the time. | ||
| You can't never make the big fights happen. | ||
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Right. | |
| That has to happen. | ||
| That fight has to. | ||
| If you if boxing is to be complete, if the circle of power is to be folded over to whatever. | ||
| The rocks you get for your ring, whatever Thanos gets. | ||
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The infinity stones. | |
| Sorry guys. | ||
| Now I'm back in the conversation. | ||
| He had the gauntlet. | ||
| That's the only way it happens. | ||
| Like you have to have that fight. | ||
| That's the fight. | ||
| And if they fuck that up and if like he goes up and now now Benavides is fighting light heavyweight more, you know, it's like I don't think it happens. | ||
| Fact, I don't think it's terrible. | ||
| I don't think it happens or it's going to be too late. | ||
| Canelo's back surgery. | ||
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Did he? | |
| No shit. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He had it on his Instagram. | ||
| He said his back's been fucking with him for 10 years and he finally got surgery. | ||
| Well, that might or might not help. | ||
| Back surgery is always like, right? | ||
| 50-50. | ||
| Should I have one and knock on wood? | ||
| It gave me my life back. | ||
| I had sciatica fucking horribly. | ||
| Would you get which surgery? | ||
| Well, they did a laminectomy from L2 all the way through S1. | ||
| Oh, so all of them were bulginging? | ||
| Like, well, I had stenosis is what was happening. | ||
| So the bones were growing and pushing on the nerves. | ||
| I mean, I would get up in the morning and be fucking holding my wall to get to the bathroom. | ||
| And still rolling. | ||
| You know, still rolling. | ||
| That's how dumb she did it. | ||
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You see what Bis said in the beginning, 40 years old, always hurt. | |
| The back shit's the worst. | ||
| But I had to get an epidural shot. | ||
| Yeah, I remember. | ||
| When I blew my back. | ||
| Oh, I tried. | ||
| When you tried GSP the second time, your back was fucked. | ||
| It was back in January, New Year's Eve. | ||
| I couldn't, I could hardly walk. | ||
| But, and then I got a, the doctor Yasha on my black belt. | ||
| See, I went to the city, got the epidural shot, and that fucking started to bring me back. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I literally couldn't walk. | ||
| When I would go to brush my teeth, I couldn't... | ||
| It was the worst thing. | ||
| Think about that, and then knowing that you have a cage fight coming up against a guy who's the best wrestler in the division. | ||
| That's what I said. | ||
| How do you fight that motherfucker with a bad back? | ||
| Yeah, well, shit, you saw the rematch. | ||
| The first one's way better. | ||
| Shit, but yeah, there's stuff that you can do for your back, but man, it takes a long ass time to heal back injuries naturally. | ||
| What's going on with yours, you were saying? | ||
| Mine's a lot better now, man. | ||
| And one of the things that I made sure I did this year is I do twice a week, I do lower back exercises, like core exercises with twists and lifting, like do back extensions with weights. | ||
| That changed everything. | ||
| Yeah, I do hypers and the reverse hyper machine for my lower back. | ||
| I do that too. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It used to bother me when I played pool. | ||
| I'd be done. | ||
| I'd be like a real stiff. | ||
| And that completely went away. | ||
| Good. | ||
| And really what it all fucked up was from archery. | ||
| Because, you know, you pull one way all the time. | ||
| And this side started getting this. | ||
| It's almost like a tendinitis. | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I just ignored it and beat it into the ground. | ||
| And even though I was in pain, I still kept shooting while I was in pain. | ||
| So I fucked it up for months. | ||
| Now I draw, I have a cable pulley system at my gym. | ||
| So I hold a ten pound weight and then I draw eighty pounds like I'm pulling a bow. | ||
| And I pretend I'm shooting a bow. | ||
| So I do that for as many reps as I shoot arrows. | ||
| I do that with my left side. | ||
| So nice. | ||
| More balanced now. | ||
| And then the lower back exercises. | ||
| But fuck, it takes forever to not, if you don't, if you want to really heal something and really get it better and not get surgery, it takes forever. | ||
| Let me ask you, with the bow hunting, why, what do you have got against the gun? | ||
| What makes you want to, is it more primitive? | ||
| Is it more primal? | ||
| It's definitely harder. | ||
| It's more, that for sure. | ||
| It's more difficult for sure. | ||
| And it requires more concentration and it's much easier to fuck up. | ||
| And that's why I like it. | ||
| Oh, it's harder. | ||
| But is it more satisfying? | ||
| But is it more peaceful to the animals too? | ||
| I can't compare. | ||
| I've shot a lot of animals with a rifle hunting and it's great. | ||
| It's very effective. | ||
| It's real smart. | ||
| It's a good way to hunt. | ||
| If you're hunting for food, like if I had to provide food for my family, I would 100% be hunting with a rifle. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| No questions asked if that's what I'm doing doing. | ||
| But what I'm doing is I'm trying to get meat with my hobby. | ||
| So my hobby is archery. | ||
| And it's, I call it a hobby is like a little disrespectful. | ||
| It's almost, it sounds very corny, but it's almost like a spiritual journey. | ||
| Like you're going into the woods and you're sneaking up. | ||
| I'm doing it with a guide who's a good friend of mine, and we go together. | ||
| And we're sneaking up on these animals that are trying to avoid mountain lions and bears. | ||
| And you're getting within archery range of them and just launching a perfect arrow. | ||
| And that's how you're getting your food. | ||
| So every time you eat your food, it's the best food in the world, but you're also thinking how you got it. | ||
| Like you worked hard for a whole year to prepare for it. | ||
| You trained for it. | ||
| I do cardio for it. | ||
| I do weighted. | ||
| I carry a weighted backpack. | ||
| I put this fucking 45-pound plate on my back and I walk around for hours. | ||
| I do a bunch of shit with it. | ||
| These different exercises just for hunting training. | ||
| Well, how much is how close is archery range? | ||
| Like how close you have to get to them? | ||
| I'm comfortable anything inside seventy yards. | ||
| If I don't think the animal's like moving a lot. | ||
| So if an animal's moving a lot, like in the rut, sometimes they're fighting other males. | ||
| So they'll run at each other and they'll come back. | ||
| And then you can't take a shotot like that because they're not going to be there when you shoot the air. | ||
| They're moving so fast. | ||
| It's not ethical. | ||
| With a rifle, you could. | ||
| With a rifle, you just need them to stop for a second. | ||
| Dent. | ||
| Just stop for a second, baboom. | ||
| And you got them. | ||
| Did you ever shoot him but miss the kill shot? | ||
| You got to go over to it and... | ||
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| What are you doing with it? | ||
| I mean, it's a horrible thing to think of. | ||
| You hit them with a second arrow. | ||
| Even if you hit them perfectly, and I've hit an elk perfectly before, they don't, if they don't go down, they're standing there. | ||
| If they're, as long as they're standing, you hit them with another arrow. | ||
| And that usually takes them out. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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You want to do it as quickly as possible. | |
| Now you got to track them down. | ||
| Bro, they're so tough. | ||
| You'll track them and you're like, this is so much blood. | ||
| There's no way this thing's not going to be dead five feet from here. | ||
| And then you'll find them 800 yards away dead. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| They're so tough. | ||
| Because you're dealing with an animal that's like every day is mountain lion season. | ||
| Every day there's mountain lions just sneaking up on them everywhere. | ||
| You know? | ||
| You know, and then, you know, if they make it to be seven, eight years old, which is when I start hunting them, like these motherfuckers. | ||
| They're gangsters. | ||
| They're gangsters. | ||
| They're wise, some of them have one eye, out by another dude because they get those antlers jabbing in each other's face. | ||
| My favorite meat is the venison. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| Have you had elk meat? | ||
| Have you had any? | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| No. | ||
| I wish you lived here. | ||
| I'd give you some. | ||
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My father-in-law, he said he's gamey. | |
| I have frozen elk out there right now. | ||
| If I had a freezer box, I could give you. | ||
| Shit, man. | ||
| I mean, my, because they say that the venison, they say it's gamey or something. | ||
| Dude, not the way he makes it like a fish. | ||
| Yeah, he knows how to make it. | ||
| He, he, he. | ||
| It's all in how you. | ||
| It's all in taking care, proper care of it once you shoot it. | ||
| If you let the animal, like, lay out in the heat or if the meat gets dirty. | ||
| or if you accidentally cut the glands. | ||
| They have these tarsal glands in their legs. | ||
| That's a nasty smell that they're putting out so that the ladies hear it. | ||
| You know, the ladies smell it rather and the other men know that they're there. | ||
| If that stuff gets on your meat, you're fucked. | ||
| Like there's a lot of it is like bad preparation, bad care, but if you take care of venison and do it well, it's the best meat. | ||
| Oh, delicious. | ||
| So delicious, man. | ||
| I love that shit. | ||
| I don't have it often, but when I do, it's my favorite, man. | ||
| The UFCPI should be serving that shit. | ||
| I bet they serve like Buffalo, though, which is also How's horse meat? | ||
| Have you tried that? | ||
| I did try it. | ||
| How is it? | ||
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Pecos. | |
| It was lovely. | ||
| Yeah, remember that? | ||
| I tried it in Montreal. | ||
| In Montreal, there's a place called Joe Beef. | ||
| Shout out to Joe Beef. | ||
| One of my favorite restaurants in the world. | ||
| It's an incredible restaurant. | ||
| I went there. | ||
| It's fucking great. | ||
| Does it make you feel powerful? | ||
| Is it tasty? | ||
| Oh, well, I didn't ask for it. | ||
| Let me just say that. | ||
| They served it to us. | ||
| It was like the guys who run it are awesome. | ||
| We know them. | ||
| I met them through Bourdain. | ||
| And so they just served us whatever they wanted to serve us. | ||
| And one of the things they gave us was it was like a loin of a horse. | ||
| And I was like, really? | ||
| Like this is like tender loin, like horse tender loin? | ||
| And it was really good. | ||
| It tasted like game meat. | ||
| I actually went to Joe Beef with Vitor Bell for Anchon Brady. | ||
| Oh, wow. | ||
| Yeah, it was a good restaurant. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| That's cool. | ||
| Fogo the chow last night. | ||
| Just fucking wearing it out. | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| With the dark lord, John Danaher. | ||
| How's he doing? | ||
| He's doing good. | ||
| He's good. | ||
| He wasn't in a rash guard. | ||
| He had a jersey on. | ||
| He had a jersey on, yeah. | ||
| But he walked up. | ||
| I was like, what the hell? | ||
| And he's walking very nice. | ||
| It's true. | ||
| His hips are fucked up for a while. | ||
| So did he get both of his hips replaced now? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Zoe's got that. | ||
| Yeah, he's teaching over exercise. | ||
| He's been three months out of his second hip surgery. | ||
| It makes you wonder, like a guy who's that smart and that driven towards jiu-jitsu, Like, what would happen if he didn't have a crippled body? | ||
| Oh, I know. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Well, even with a crippled body, when he was rolling, he used to fuck people. | ||
| I know. | ||
| Isn't that crazy? | ||
| Like, blown apart knee, you know, reconstructed to the point where it doesn't even like fully extend, right? | ||
| Has to get, what has he gotten replaced so far? | ||
| I mean, I know both hips. | ||
| Did he get a knee too? | ||
| He might have got his knee. | ||
| Because he said after the hip damaged his knee so bad that he thought he's going to have to get the knee done. | ||
| Oh, he's walking great, though. | ||
| I was so happy. | ||
| Yeah, he looked good. | ||
| I'm like, man. | ||
| Look good. | ||
| It's always good to see him. | ||
| Yeah, that's my thing now. | ||
| I get to see him when I come out. | ||
| Your knee doesn't fuck with you, right? | ||
| My left knee? | ||
| No, but I fucking, the one thing that really is, if I could just, it just haunts me is because I fucked up where you're supposed to step down with your bad leg when you get the surgery. | ||
| I went up, I went to put up my curtain, I stepped down, and if you see, I'll just show you here. | ||
| Is this missing here? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Oh, damn. | ||
| My bicep. | ||
| Yeah, you tore my bicep. | ||
| Man, so fucking... | ||
| Like I, you know, so it sucks. | ||
| I went to go butterfly sweep. | ||
| I felt it get real tight. | ||
| So I got the stem cells shot right in that bitch. | ||
| That's the only one that hurt because they said they had nowhere to go. | ||
| I would have done that earlier. | ||
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I didn't even know I did it until I went back to PT the next day. | |
| And then I was dealing, I didn't want to go through another fucking surgery. | ||
| I just got a new knee. | ||
| So man, the knee itself, dude, titanium. | ||
| Adenamium. | ||
| What do the Wolverines call it? | ||
| It's anti-body. | ||
| My knee's not bothering me at all. | ||
| But I could block a kick with that. | ||
| I feel great with it. | ||
| And I'm rolling. | ||
| I'm flexible. | ||
| But I fucked up that. | ||
| It's a little weak. | ||
| It's a little compromised. | ||
| Is there anything you can do with weights? | ||
| I'm doing squats. | ||
| I'm doing my regular squats. | ||
| I have to do more with the weights. | ||
| I'm thinking of single leg lunges with that leg. | ||
| What do they call them? | ||
| Bulgarians? | ||
| Squats? | ||
| I hold a 100-pound kettlebell and do them one-leggers. | ||
| It's noticeably weaker, so I just got to do something with that. | ||
| But besides that, the knee itself, I just wish I didn't do that because I hear about Bisping running still. | ||
| If I run this fuck, I could dip with this. | ||
| It's mine. | ||
| The running thing is weird because it's like, How much time do you have on those knees? | ||
| like you kind of have to be and you got to get them fixed again but i mean can they do that can they chop the thing off and put a new one in and unscrew it i'm not holding off on my right one for as long as I can. | ||
| Is it right? | ||
| Is it still fucked? | ||
| My right one, I just got shot some stem cells in there, but yeah, if I'm walking too much, I'll feel that bitch. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| They're both just severely, not my left now, it's new, but then it's just fucking arthritis, man. | ||
| Fucking sound like an old man with the arthritis. | ||
| Oh, my arthritis. | ||
| It's jujitsu. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I mean, I also to get to 55, I used to just fucking have to run in the morning for 45 minutes. | ||
| low intensity but just still i was on a treadmill just fucking on enduro rush fucking just running so i must have wore that down man you know i'm sure but that's what bisping says he ran a lot on the streets too, you know, which I'm sure is a lot of extra power. | ||
| That's no good. | ||
| I can't do that. | ||
| Yeah, he's still doing it though. | ||
| He's fucking. | ||
| He's been running. | ||
| Especially because he just sued his wife. | ||
| I think he's doing better now, luckily, because for a long time his neck was fucking with him so bad he could barely get out of bed. | ||
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Jesus. | |
| In his body. | ||
| Yeah, I remember he had surgery and like a week later he was right back on the call. | ||
| Right back calming. | ||
| I was like, you gotta be careful with your neck too. | ||
| Like that's where the spinal cord is. | ||
| Like it only I didn't I thought your spinal cord went all the way through your back till I had my back surgery, you know, but it doesn't. | ||
| It comes down like maybe halfway. | ||
| And so that's why when you have it, your neck impingements cause a lot of those fucking problems. | ||
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There's fucking problems. | |
| That's why the Ernesto Hoost neck kick is so effective. | ||
| You know, with Hoost you can see, yeah. | ||
| Oh, Hoost kicked so many people in the neck. | ||
| Just wow. | ||
| He was a saint. | ||
| He was always one of my favorite guys to watch. | ||
| Mr Perfect. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| One of the most beautiful kickboxers of all time. | ||
| Like just the combinations he would throw, pop pop, left hook to the body, white low kick. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| Yeah, and they ruined him with Bob Sapp. | ||
| I know, not crazy. | ||
| He was spying on him. | ||
| He beat him twice. | ||
| Two times. | ||
| You know, see, that'll always baffle me how Bob Sapp beat that guy. | ||
| Well, you know what it is? | ||
| Like, this is one of the reasons why Ernesto wasn't like the best candidate for kickboxing to enter into MMA. | ||
| because he was like smooth and super technical and very fast but not explosive, right? | ||
| Not like just launching himself, but Crocop was. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| When Crocop fought Bob Sapp, Crocop fucked Bob Sapp up because Crocop would just blast on you Like full power, full blast on you. | ||
| It's like it was a different kind of thing that he would do. | ||
| And that's why he was so effective in MMA. | ||
| Like when he went over to MMA, like all of a sudden he's this fast, powerful striker. | ||
| It's not like a boxer who's going to move around a little bit and pick you apart for a few rounds. | ||
| Styles matter. | ||
| Styles matter. | ||
| I wish he would have been in the UFC in his prime. | ||
| He got over a little late. | ||
| He had pretty good takedown defense too. | ||
| He was able to keep good range. | ||
| He would frame guys off and everything. | ||
| Yeah, he was, I mean, and we all know about his, was it left kick cemetery? | ||
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What was it right kick hospital left kick cemetery? | |
| Bro. | ||
| He fought Heath Herring and there's a there's a shot of him throwing this low kick or this body kick deep into Heath Herring's cage. | ||
| Like his whole rib cage is just collapsed and you just see Crocop's shin like basically touching his lever. | ||
| It's insane. | ||
| It's so deep that you just it's one of the most painful pictures you see from an MMA fight. | ||
| Heath Herring. | ||
| Remember that dude kissed him before the fight? | ||
| I've done it before. | ||
| Oh, I can. | ||
| You can with one shot. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| In pride. | ||
| Listen, man. | ||
| You get one. | ||
| It's the one in the upper left hand side. | ||
| The second one, up, that one right there. | ||
|
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, that one. | ||
| Look at that. | ||
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Bro. | |
| Concave. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| Gotta be some broke. | ||
| And when you know how powerful Crow Cop's kicks are, and then you think about eating that on the ribs like that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh my God. | ||
| That is. | ||
| It's like it's folding around his leg. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, that's another one that he landed on. | ||
| That's Josh. | ||
| That's Josh Barnett. | ||
| Bro. | ||
| The power that that dude had. | ||
| And what about the one that he landed on Vanderlein when he flatlined Vanderlein? | ||
| Dude, he had some wheels on him. | ||
| It's like, woo! | ||
| And power. | ||
| It's just the difference was like when he was throwing kicks at you, it was 100% gas. | ||
| He was not feeling you out. | ||
| He was trying to like let you know, motherfucker, there's some darkness behind that shot. | ||
| You will see darkness and then you have a flashlight in your face. | ||
| And they'll be like, you okay? | ||
| Stay put, stay put. | ||
| You're gonna be okay. | ||
| But then Gonzaga did that to him. | ||
| Oh, remember? | ||
| I was there for that. | ||
| And then he rolled over his ankle. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Remember that man? | ||
| His ankle popped. | ||
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And that went back. | |
| Forever be known as the Crow Cops. | ||
| Whenever you see that happen, you always think back when it happened. | ||
| I was in London. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| We went after that, man. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I had to, that's right after I got the belt. | ||
| And I remember me, you and Eddie went out and got some pasta. | ||
| That's right. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's so funny. | ||
| That was crazy. | ||
| People forgot about Gonzaga. | ||
| I know, you know? | ||
| That was a big win, man. | ||
| Huge. | ||
| Huge, huge. | ||
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Huge, huge. | |
| Big, fucking dude. | ||
| Big, natural dude. | ||
| The heavyweight division right now is so shallow in the UFC. | ||
| It's so shallow. | ||
| It's like, without, you know, you think they're all playing football and basketball, you know? | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| What about Johnny? | ||
| What's Johnny? | ||
| I hate to say. | ||
| Walter Walker. | ||
| Walter Walker. | ||
| What about him taking leg locks at everybody? | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| Like three in a row? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
|
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Walter Walker. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Looks good. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Yeah, I mean, we need more of that. | ||
| We need someone to, like, if Aspinall's going to have, he's got Cyril gone, right? | ||
| So that's an interesting fight. | ||
| And then who? | ||
| There's no one after that. | ||
| Jackie Lewis, just on name. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Derek would be fine. | ||
| By the way, Cyril gone didn't have a bad movie. | ||
| Not to keep bringing up movies, but I love movies. | ||
| But he fucking KO with Cyril gone? | ||
| What is it? | ||
| It's a movie on Netflix. | ||
| He has his own movie. | ||
| He's an action star. | ||
| He's the star of the movie. | ||
| He's the star of it, and you might be thinking, all right, how's his acting? | ||
| It wasn't bad. | ||
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Really? | |
| Fucking. | ||
| He's the new action Jackson. | ||
| I'm only fucking asshole. | ||
| He's the new action king. | ||
| Is it in English? | ||
| It's dubbed in English. | ||
| But it's a fresh song. | ||
| So how do you know if he's any good? | ||
| Well, I watched it. | ||
| Yeah, but I'm saying it's like it's not even his voice. | ||
| Well, you could see him. | ||
| I would say his acting is really good, but like some other dude's voice, that's kind of crazy. | ||
| You don't have to call him KO. | ||
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It's called KO, but it's not bad. | |
| There he is. | ||
| Hey, listen. | ||
| You know, it's not the best sign when a fighter starts starring in movies. | ||
| Yeah, you're right. | ||
| I'm not saying that it's not fun. | ||
| Is this new? | ||
| Is this pretty new? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Everybody watching for him and his chances against Tom Aspen. | ||
| Yeah, like, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| You better better be training. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If there's a world that can soften you, it's the world of acting. | ||
| It's a weird thing, man. | ||
| I mean, acting and music kills fighters. | ||
| There's also a thing, like, once you become a movie star, like... | ||
| Like, remember Tommy Morrison when he fought Ray Mercer? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Right after Rocky? | ||
| Oh, that was a hard knockout. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| He beat him down. | ||
| Ray Mercer had him tangled in the road. | ||
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And Ray just punching and seeing him blasting away. | |
| Didn't Ray Mercer knock out Tim Silver also? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He did. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| One punch. | ||
| That was great. | ||
| One punch. | ||
| Ray Mercer, man. | ||
| And he did that. | ||
| He was like 46. | ||
| Remember when he, who the hell did he fight in, it was like K1 or Pride, and they kicked him, and he just left the ring? | ||
| It was Ray Mercer. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So when I threw a head kick, he looked at him like he's speaking a foreign language, and he fucking just left. | ||
| Really? | ||
| Ray Mercer. | ||
| Are you sure that was Mercer? | ||
| I'm pretty sure. | ||
| Can we find that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I mean, I think one of the most interesting boxers that entered into MMA or entered into kickboxing was when Masato fought both of them. | ||
| Cool Vince. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
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That's Phillips. | |
| Vince Phillips. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's Phillips. | ||
| He did all right. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| What are you talking about? | ||
| He couldn't do with them leg kicks. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He couldn't do with them leg kicks. | ||
| Chopped apart. | ||
| Chopped the leg kicks. | ||
| That's what's interesting when you watch a boxer who goes over there and's like, Oh shit. | ||
| Like, what is this? | ||
| They never got kicked in the leg before. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| That's when Shannon Briggs fought Tom Erickson. | ||
| That's right. | ||
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Same thing. | |
| Yeah. | ||
| Shannon was on the podcast. | ||
| He was telling me about it. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| He's like, Champ. | ||
| Every time he hit me, Champ. | ||
| I was like, Oh, don't let him kick me again. | ||
| I gotta quit. | ||
| How did that go? | ||
| He knocked him out. | ||
| Shannon knocked him out because Shannon hit him with a jab to the body. | ||
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So, uh oh, here's Tim Sullivan. | |
| So what happened was Tim was not supposed to kick. | ||
| They only had this authorized as a fight, but since it was like an MMA fight, they were supposed to be a boxing match, right? | ||
| One shot. | ||
| So what was it supposed to be a boxing match, they couldn't get authorized for it to be a boxing match because Tim Silvia didn't have a boxing record. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so you can't fight a former world champion and you've had no boxing record, but you could fight him in MMA. | ||
| It's a world champion versus a world champion. | ||
| He knows that boxing is a sport that's in MMA, you could do that. | ||
| And so they made an agreement, okay, don't kick me, and I'll fight you in the cage. | ||
| And then Tim opens up with an inside low kick. | ||
| That's why Ray Mercer, you see, he drops his hands. | ||
| Yeah, what are you doing? | ||
| That makes a lot of sense. | ||
| Because the original fight they were contracted for was a boxing match. | ||
| And Tim's like, once I got you in here, I'm going to kick your fucking legs. | ||
| And then Ray cracks him. | ||
| That's kind of a cheap shot, though. | ||
| If you make an agreement about that, that's a cheap shot. | ||
| Jamie, play it again. | ||
| Because when you see when Ray gets that inside low kick, he drops his hands. | ||
| He's got this look in his face like, what are you doing? | ||
| What the fuck is this? | ||
| watch he steps out watch this throws the kick bro bro what is that oh i can't believe okay i love him Timber. | ||
| Timber. | ||
| Out cold. | ||
| Ray Mercer. | ||
| Good for him. | ||
| I mean, Ray Mercer could fucking punch, son. | ||
| Into the shot, too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| That's the full mount right there. | ||
| It's kind of amazing how few boxers have actually entered into MMA. | ||
| Not, you know, this was like, you got tricked into this one, but it's only like, you would think more would, too, right? | ||
| Well, I... | ||
| Yeah, but how many guys get there? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Think of, you know, relatively speaking, Spence and Crawford made. | ||
| That was like a big fight. | ||
| I mean, they probably still made a lot., a couple, you know, a gang of millions. | ||
| Right. | ||
| I mean, I'm guessing in the single digit millions, though, not fucking hundreds of millions. | ||
| I bet it's disclosed. | ||
| So let me find out what the purse was, Jamie. | ||
| We need the next Art Jimison in hand. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| 25 mil. | ||
| 25 mil each. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| Nice. | ||
| At least 25 mil for their fight doesn't matter. | ||
| But even still, like it's such a small population of boxers to make that, as we said. | ||
| Right. | ||
| So you would think that more would go, you know what? | ||
| I'm probably not going to make 25 mil. | ||
| I'm not good enough to make that, but I'm good enough to maybe go to MMA and make 100 grand, 200 grand. | ||
| I think I've just learned how many other skill sets though that's true but if you're a guy like crawford it started out as a wrestler well then yeah that's the amount and there are some of them i think like the citron brothers right one of them was a wrestler too i thought yeah curman Citron. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I was digging through a boxing forum. | ||
| They didn't believe the Oosic payout numbers. | ||
| Oh, they didn't believe it? | ||
| They think it's bullshit? | ||
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Yeah. | |
| I don't understand how they're going to do that. | ||
| Unless you're just lighting money on it. | ||
| Yeah, it does. | ||
| You mean about the Oosic numbers? | ||
| Yeah, the payout. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
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Yep. | |
| No one believes it. | ||
| Oh, yeah, but that's just because they're haters. | ||
| I mean, no one proved it. | ||
| No one proved it. | ||
| It was $200 million. | ||
| It wasn't on pay-per-view. | ||
| There's no, unless someone just gave him the money. | ||
| Yeah, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| Like, actually, let that money on fire. | ||
| This is the thing. | ||
| Those Saudis are known to do that. | ||
| Yeah, they probably. | ||
| I mean, look what they did with that Liv Golf Tournament. | ||
| They basically they just bought the tournament. | ||
| And if they did that with basketball or with anything else, they have enough money to do that with basically all sports. | ||
| Suppose they did it with the John Jones fight. | ||
| So John Jones asked the UOC for thirty million dollars to fight Tom Aspinall, then pulled out two days after they agreed. | ||
| He didn't think we'd come up with the number, and they did. | ||
| Saudi Arabia was involved. | ||
| He was hoping they wouldn't meet the number. | ||
| We literally just saw that this morning. | ||
| That's what the UOC said, yeah. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| I wonder where he's getting his information. | ||
| That's interesting. | ||
| He said earlier in the thing that he priced himself out of the Ngannou fight. | ||
| And he thought that strategy would work again, but apparently they met the 30 million. | ||
| And then John, a couple days later, did the retirement thing and said he wasn't going to fight. | ||
| Why the fuck would he even want to do that then? | ||
| I'm gonna Yeah, I'm with you. | ||
| Well, guys, listen, it's a dangerous fight. | ||
| I'd ask that man, for sure. | ||
| Especially at this point in John's career. | ||
| 30 fucking million, no? | ||
| Yeah, I'd take the L for 30 million. | ||
| Yeah, but he doesn't want the L. Here's the thing. | ||
| The real thing is, John's rich right now, right? | ||
| He's already a millionaire. | ||
| So what is he going to, what's that extra? | ||
| It's going to be nice to have an extra 30, but the reality is he's rich right now. | ||
| He probably doesn't have to work for the rest of his life if he doesn't do anything currently. | ||
| He still makes money doing his appearances and whatever else. | ||
| And he doesn't have to take that ass kicking. | ||
| Not saying that he would, but if you wanted to look at it from that perspective, like if it's a tough fight, he's been through all wars, the Gustafson fights, all of them take something out of you. | ||
| And you gotta know when you don't want to do that anymore. | ||
| And if that's where he's at right now, I hope he stays retired. | ||
| But then he jumped right back in and said he wants to fight at the White House, right? | ||
| So it's like, it's so hard for those guys to let it go. | ||
| When they do let it go, it's, it's difficult to figure out who you are. | ||
| Man, we gotta see where that train's going off the tracks when he's not like an Aerosmith song, son. | ||
| I mean, guys at all time great, though. | ||
| I mean, if not the all time great. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I know who's mean. | ||
| I don't think so. | ||
| I've been really good lately. | ||
| And I, I, it's, I'm like, I forgot who, I forgot who he's going to be fighting, but Dominic Reyes is. | ||
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Oh, he's like Carlos Oberge, right? | |
| Oh, he's like, that's in Australia. | ||
| That should be a good one. | ||
| In Australia. | ||
| That's a real good one. | ||
| That should be, yeah. | ||
| That's a real good one. | ||
| Oberge's majestic. | ||
| Oberge's fast. | ||
| I know. | ||
| He's fast. | ||
| He might be faster than than Dominic Reyes. | ||
| I'll tell you what, man. | ||
| I rewatched Dominic Reyes as Jon Jones and I could see Dominic Reyes winning that decision. | ||
| That was a, that was a tough decision. | ||
| It's close. | ||
| fight. | ||
| I mean, I'm not saying I sat down and scored it, but I'm like, okay, I could see the argument. | ||
| I want to know John's story. | ||
| How much coke did he do the week of the fight? | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| How about when he told DC that? | ||
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Yeah, right when I was on cocaine. | |
| That's the coldest thing I could ever say, right? | ||
| You know, they say there's nine years that a fighter can fight at his very best. | ||
| It's most for most athletes and I think they did this someone's explaining it to me they think they did this based on tennis because tennis is all about like fast twitch and movement and the ability to explode back and forth and they're not taking any damage and you could kind of keep your level going at the highest level for about nine years and then everything just slows down a little bit. | ||
| There's just too many injuries. | ||
| I mean the training for these things that's the biggest thing is the camps especially as you get older. | ||
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Fuck yeah. | |
| You know getting there in one piece is just it's just the fastest possible if you have to if you want to just check all the boxes getting ready for these fucking things. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And when guys get to be like 37, 38, 39. | ||
| It's so hard to predict them to show up to fight. | ||
| I know. | ||
| I gotta make predictions. | ||
| I'm like, well, they're 38. | ||
| uh now i'll tell you what dude i'm not counting out cannonier anymore yeah After he beat Gregory Rodriguez, I was like, god damn. | ||
| Put it on him too. | ||
| Put it on him. | ||
| And Gregory tried to take him out in that first round, man. | ||
| He went all gas. | ||
| Gregory's a beast too. | ||
| Robocop. | ||
| He just came back and knocked out the joker, fucking Hermanson. | ||
| And that was brutal. | ||
| Yeah, I think Gregory Rodriguez would be the biggest threat to Reiner de Ritter. | ||
| Oh, that's interesting. | ||
| Because just like when you think about styles, like just the biggest threat, I think he would come back to Reiner de Ritter's head off. | ||
| I like that. | ||
| His striking's terrifying. | ||
| De Ritter's got that knee to the body that is so interesting, the way he fucking forces you to clinch and then yeah yeah yeah yeah it's just tricky it's tricky so good in the in the entrance with that knee to the body yeah and when he did that over and over and over again it's like wow like paid for it one time with that overhand that's true and that's where Rodriguez would be yeah throw that knee in fucking RoboCop started waiting that locked on his jaw yeah but uh perfect nickname for him too RoboCop he looks like he does look | ||
| like that's a fight right the Riddler and RoboCop's that would be a crazy fight yeah that's a good one that's a real good I'm impressed with his Jiu Jitsu that the Riddler man am I seeing his name right the Riddler's the Riddler the fucking everything goes back to the comics, but he was so big. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's so big for 85. | ||
| But so was RoboCop. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| The way he handled Bo Nichol made the punch. | ||
| I thought he was awful. | ||
| I thought that was a horrible matchup for Bo Nichol. | ||
| But it was a lot of those knees to the body. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Those knees to the body were nasty. | ||
| He was so good at it. | ||
| He was so good at throwing that knee to the body. | ||
| He's very calm too. | ||
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Oh yeah. | |
| Well, he's been through it, man. | ||
| I mean, we haven't seen him, but over in one episode, see knee to the body. | ||
| So nasty. | ||
| It's so nice. | ||
| It's so nice. | ||
| And he took one and he took a punch for it too. | ||
| Doesn't matter. | ||
| Oh my. | ||
| That's so. | ||
| And on the ground, he's a monster yeah what he did to kevin holland i was like whoa okay he was on point man so that's another 85er i mean think about that division you got fluffy who just like has this breakout performance last weekend you got you know the whole division fluffy what about that african dude oh my god oh my god i'm scared of one he might be the one like of all the dudes he you know i was like you know he's not 185 no he but he's fast does anybody know the african dude's name attier something | ||
| like that is it goutier goutier it's a you know it's not a tapi tapi goutier yeah yeah that sounds more like Am I saying that right, Jamie? | ||
| She's looking for verification. | ||
| Yeah, he's from Cameroon as well. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he's scary. | ||
| He's real scary. | ||
| There's there's dudes that just God just gave him an extra little extra little extra little He gave him more than an extra little because I was Kate, you know, Kate's side man, we watch these dudes and he's punching this guy like in the back and the guy's like going There he is. | ||
| A T-bug on the TV. | ||
| Yeah, yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's like 1,94 m, 185 m, doesn't have an ounce of body fat on him. | ||
| I mean, look at that photo of him. | ||
| Just look at that photo that's crazy you know that's like one of those the guy your girlfriend tells you not to worry about photos yeah yeah yeah there's a few of those guys that just they don't even look real Rodolfo Viera he's another one yeah you see him you're like how's that a real dude so here he is man this is in his last fight I mean vicious power he's power Like that guy's just getting hit like yo, somehow stop him. | ||
| You were talking about the heavyweights, man. | ||
| I was upset by Bushema, man. | ||
| Oh, Bushema? | ||
| Bushema. | ||
| Steven Bushema. | ||
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I've been watching Paul Paul. | |
| That was a send by Burata. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, he looked bad. | ||
| He looked bad. | ||
| He didn't look bad. | ||
| Horrible. | ||
| How about they fucking got rid of the other dude? | ||
| That's weird. | ||
| They let him go. | ||
| Like, you fucked up. | ||
| I think they're going to resign him. | ||
| I think it's just a matter of, like, just not having so many guys on the roster to have that burden to keep fighting him. | ||
| That doesn't make any sense. | ||
| If the guy's on, like, a win streak. | ||
| Guys on a win streak. | ||
| Yeah, but I think they're going to resign him, though. | ||
| So it's just like they didn't sign in time? | ||
| Well, you know, it's like when they have so many guys on the roster, they have to promise them certain amount of fights. | ||
| So it's like... | ||
| Yeah, so they don't have to promise some fights. | ||
| But is that for sure? | ||
| Are you just speculating? | ||
| Because that's why they pay them if they don't Yeah, because they have to pay them anyway if they don't get a certain amount of fight or not. | ||
| I mean, imagine you just fought your ass off, you beat Buchett against Buchett cut you, right? | ||
| You're like, what? | ||
| I think what they'll do is that when they need him again, they'll just get him back. | ||
| I was disappointed. | ||
| As opposed to just how bad his shape he was getting cardio wise. | ||
| Well, he just I think he banked on that single leg, which was getting pretty good. | ||
| Have you seen him fight that rug rug guy or whatever and won? | ||
| That was a crazy fight, a crazy war. | ||
| He took a lot of torture. | ||
| Like, I was impressed because most Jiu Jitsu guys, when they get hit like that, they're not out there for the fight. | ||
| And then in this fight, didn't look at all like the guy that fought at one and I thought he was gonna be better, you know, because he's training. | ||
| Let me ask you this. | ||
| What kind of drug testing do you think they're doing over there? | ||
| Yeah, nine. | ||
| Where? | ||
| Man, nine. | ||
| Yeah, I love killing. | ||
| What kind of drug testing? | ||
| Nine. | ||
| Drug testing? | ||
| You got a point. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I mean, this is this is a problem with a lot of guys we got from Pride. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know, a guy they come over with different physiques. | ||
| They look different. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| Moudet signs with Octagon MMA faces off with the heavyweight champ. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, he's staying busy. | ||
| You know, the guy's good and we need good guys in the heavyweight division. | ||
| There's just not a lot of people. | ||
| I mean, the thing about it is, it's like, you gotta be exciting. | ||
| I mean, I think part of that too. | ||
| You gotta be exciting. | ||
| Physically, he looks horrible. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I think if he was looked more marketable, I bet you would still have a contract. | ||
| I know, but isn't there like something to a guy who looks like shit, fucks everybody up? | ||
| There is something to that. | ||
| Especially when he's always overlapping somebody up. | ||
| Look, when Fedor was in his prime, that was part of his charm. | ||
| Part of his charm. | ||
| Part of his charm. | ||
| He's a chubby fucking guy. | ||
| He's a little roll around his place. | ||
| Right? | ||
| Dead behind the ass. | ||
| Old man backing shit. | ||
| How many guys didn't root for fucking Roy Nelson? | ||
| I'm not saying he looked like shit, bro. | ||
| He's like an everyday guy knocking guys out., fucking, you know, people like him. | ||
| Bro, people loved him. | ||
| That power that Roy had was crazy. | ||
| Like he came over from Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| Everybody knew he was a black belt in Jiu Jitsu. | ||
| Like, always competing in Abu Dhabi and the circuit. | ||
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Then all of a sudden he's throwing hammer. | |
| He got this mullet shit up here. | ||
| He's a little savage. | ||
| Takes a shot better than any living human that's ever lived. | ||
| I mean, who took a shot better than Roy? | ||
| He took some bombs, dude. | ||
| That guy took some bombs and absorbed them. | ||
| Nah, he was badass. | ||
| And people loved watching him fight with that big belly. | ||
| They loved watching him. | ||
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That's maybe weighed it up too. | |
| Yeah, so I don't buy that that they look like shit. | ||
| It's just the performance was it wasn't exciting. | ||
| If you watch that fight, that fight wasn't a good fight. | ||
| You know, Buchetta did wrestle at a high level. | ||
| It looked like going to the race. | ||
| If you're going to be a Jiu Jitsu guy and everyone knows he was a multiple world champion in Jiu Jitsu and you're fighting in MMA, son, you better have some take downs. | ||
| Because hey, no one's going to want to be fucking grappling with you. | ||
| Why would they do that? | ||
| You're right. | ||
| He was just banking on that single leg. | ||
| And once he started taking that, he had he was taking away that single leg very well. | ||
| And then I'm like, oh shit, it's a long way. | ||
| I was all excited. | ||
| I'm like, oh, Bishop. | ||
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Oh, yeah, shit. | |
| I thought too. | ||
| I was like, shit, shit, shit. | ||
| Let's see how this goes. | ||
| It's a shit. | ||
| Really? | ||
| How many times have you watched a high-level Jiu-Jitsu match between two black belts and it starts in a standing position and no one goes down at all for like 10 minutes? | ||
| It's annoying. | ||
| They're just tying up. | ||
| There's no good shots. | ||
| There's no one threatens to take someone down. | ||
| Everyone's afraid to commit. | ||
| When you start on your... | ||
| In Abu Dhabi, I pulled guard every fucking time. | ||
| If you trust in your guard or being able to get back, now they call wrestling up, but I was doing that back in the day before it was called that. | ||
| But, you know, if you're good at not letting somebody pass, especially in Abu Dhabi rule set, after five minutes, you know, all right, now I'm on my back. | ||
| If I'm good at getting out and getting up and putting the guy down, I'm, you know what I mean? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| It's all strategy with that. | ||
| But I hate when it's a stalemate with just two guys just fucking pummeling them. | ||
| But I get it from the wrestler's perspective, too. | ||
| It's like, hey, fuck sitting on your ass. | ||
| Take me down, bitch. | ||
| You want me on the groundund, you have to take me to the ground. | ||
| I get that too, because that's correct. | ||
| And that's one of the things that you see that's like very humbling for a real good Jiu Jitsu guy when he's there's no way he can take a guy down and then the guy starts beating him up standing up. | ||
| And you just have you just rushing forward, trying to grab him. | ||
| You can't get the fight to your expertise level, your area of expertise. | ||
| It looks so bad. | ||
| It's especially bad. | ||
| Nothing to fear from you standing. | ||
| So it's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| What about Don Fry and Amri Batech? | ||
| That was a bad call for that. | ||
| He was a modest. | ||
| And he was tiny, by the way. | ||
| Amri Batech was a stud, but he might have done well if they gave him anybody else. | ||
| But one, if you watch that again, he's way smaller and that's a small don fry back then too don fry was 200 that was before he really got on the gas pride don fry's a lot different than that don fry's a superhero you know yeah he got gigantic even his mustache got bigger i didn't know that that guy the big japanese guy that they were punching each other in the face yeah i didn't know that guy became a quadruplegic something happened i saw a picture of him visiting him on the mall he is yeah i ain't gonna die dude yeah dom | ||
| Don was not big. | ||
| You know, look at Don. | ||
| I mean, he wasn't a big muscular. | ||
| I mean, obviously, super athletic. | ||
| Different weight classes right here. | ||
| Yeah, big difference. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| But not the Dom from Pride. | ||
| The giant roided up Don Fry from Pride was a different animal. | ||
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This poor Amari was just trying to get him down the whole time. | |
| He just grabbed the fence. | ||
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I was going to say he grabbed the fence, yeah. | |
| No rules at all. | ||
| Full-on grabbing the fence. | ||
| Look, he's hanging onto the fence with shoes on. | ||
| That's the other thing. | ||
| He's got wrestling shoes, which is also kind of crazy. | ||
| That sucks. | ||
| Poor Amari. | ||
| I mean, he didn't have any fun. | ||
| Yeah, it was bad. | ||
| with amari back old school top team back it was a long fight what do you think amari buttech weighed in this fight i'm gonna just say an absolute what do you think a buck 70 or something he looks he looks small i mean look at the size this thing weight close look how young he is i know he's just big difference no gloves yeah yeah sure. | ||
| It was 30 years ago. | ||
| So crazy. | ||
| What? | ||
| 30 years? | ||
| It was 96. | ||
| Sometimes I forget I'm fucking in my 50s. | ||
| 51. | ||
| I'll be 57. | ||
| It was a catchweight? | ||
| Did it say Henri Batouch's weight? | ||
| I'm looking up a different spot. | ||
| He looks like a doubleweight. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| There was a lot of those fights back then. | ||
| Oh my god. | ||
| Tons of them. | ||
| Catchweights? | ||
| No, just crazy fights. | ||
| No crazy fights. | ||
| Fighting someone way smaller than them. | ||
| It's like Kerr and Gajel, Fabio Gajel. | ||
| Yeah, that's one of my favorite fights of all time. | ||
| I was a big Fabio fan. | ||
| I was a big Fabio fan. | ||
| I give credit to Marillo Bustamante fighting Tom Erickson for 45 minutes. | ||
| Marillo was a Jiu-Jitsu guy that had some stand-up and had some wrestling. | ||
| He took Linland down. | ||
| He had it on the feet with Chuck Liddell. | ||
| I thought Marillo had Linland twice. | ||
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. | |
| Marillo Bustamante is one of my favorites to watch. | ||
| The thing about the Jiu-Jitsu guys back then, some of those guys. | ||
| Fabio Gojel's another one. | ||
| Fabio is a man. | ||
| Marillo is their Jiu-Jitsu games. | ||
| It could transfer over from Gui, NoGui, MMA, and it all resembles the same skill set. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| But it could cross.ross over. | ||
| Mario Sperry. | ||
| Mario Sperry. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| He was great too. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| You know? | ||
| Yeah, man. | ||
| A lot of those guys from that Carlson Gracie team. | ||
| He had a really solid team. | ||
| He had a really good team. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Can't doubt Carlson's teaching. | ||
| Like a lot of savages came out of that camp. | ||
| A lot of them. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Including Vitor. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Well, that's where I got my black belt from, from Laborio, from that camp. | ||
| Yeah, well, yeah, Laborio was... | ||
| He was a good dude. | ||
| Where has he been? | ||
| He's in Orlando. | ||
| He's got a school in Orlando. | ||
| He still got a school. | ||
| He still got a school. | ||
| And like a whole network. | ||
| He's not going to do MMA anymore. | ||
| No, no MMA. | ||
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stuff. | |
| Because I used to see him roll out of top team. | ||
| Never. | ||
| Nice guy. | ||
| What a sweetheart guy that guy is. | ||
| Yeah, he was. | ||
| When did he leave top team? | ||
| He left before I did. | ||
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Really? | |
| Yeah, so. | ||
| I mean, in fact, when he left, that's when they really hired me to kind of take his place. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| It's like 2019 coming up. | ||
| Oh, Joe Pfeiffer. | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Joe Pfeiffer, yeah. | ||
| He's fighting Abu Smegametoff. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Oh. | ||
| Joe Pfeiffer. | ||
| I like Joe, man. | ||
| He's fucking tough. | ||
| He's got some hands in that. | ||
| Joe Pfeiffer thought that I was too hard on him in the commentary of the last five. | ||
| Yeah, we just because it's just because it has potential. | ||
| That's all he has. | ||
| knew that he was looking for the big shot instead of like just letting it come and yeah he was so good in the first round that unfortunately like he had so much success and almost took him out that he started looking to take him out yeah and if you load up with kelvin and i think it's still box i think it freaked him out a little bit that kelvin was still there you know like like he's like yo i didn't hit this dude with everything he's still here what the hell's going on nobody's got a chin like that guy yeah it is a little chubby though kelvin yeah he's a 70 he's a 70 yeah | ||
| he shouldn't be he's always had such problems making it yeah but you know what man it's just like if that guy was at the ufcpi and they gave him all his meals and he had someone babysit them and make sure you don't just don't fuck off. | ||
| Don't eat anything other than this. | ||
| And it's like too many guys just want to feel comfortable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's like, okay, but you're not going to feel comfortable losing. | ||
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Right? | |
| So you're fighting a giant. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And that this guy's coming down from an extreme weight. | ||
| 185 first, 210. | ||
| And that's why. | ||
| Oh, Amrei Batatch was 185. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Okay. | ||
| Damn. | ||
| He's also a late replacement. | ||
| I gotta go back again. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| Well, let's wrap it up. | ||
| Whoa, man, guys, my ass is stopping us. | ||
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No, no, no. | |
| We've been doing this for three hours. | ||
| We've been doing it for three hours. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So it's fine. | ||
| I feel you guys are gonna fucking curse me after this. | ||
| I'm sorry. | ||
| No, no, no, no. | ||
| We understand. | ||
| Me and my ass. | ||
| You got a legitimate isssue. | ||
| I have a lot of issues. | ||
| Ground Patrol, Baltimore, Maryland. | ||
| Can I have a fucking shirt? | ||
| Groundpatrol, baltimore dot com dot Crazy that I didn't bring that shirt on fights dot com. | ||
| I got you, Matt. | ||
| Don't worry. | ||
| Thank you. | ||
| Medium now. | ||
| And Dean Thomas Fight Court, the new podcast. | ||
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Yes. | |
| Oh, you got a new one? | ||
| I'm always got a new one. | ||
| Dean Thomas Fight Court. | ||
| So. | ||
| No, at BMORE MMA on Instagram too. | ||
| I'll see you this weekend, Chicago, right? | ||
| Yeah, I'll be there. | ||
| Matt's our channel on, oh, I'm sorry. | ||
| We're done. | ||
| No, no, I'm done. | ||
| Matt's our channel on YouTube. | ||
| I'm having fun with that. | ||
| I got a, that's a little podcast that can, like 30 something thousand. |
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