Aug. 13, 2025 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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The Joe Rogan Experience. | |
| Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. | ||
| So what did you think about the whole UFO thing before you got into office? | ||
| So I actually had, when I was stationed at Portland Air National Guard, my job there was an airfield manager. | ||
| So I would interface and work a lot with the F-15 pilots at the unit. | ||
| And so there had been an airspace incursion that had taken place when I was still at the time at the Guard. | ||
| And I remember kind of talking to some of the pilots about it and I was like, what was that? | ||
| And they were like, eh, we can't really talk about it. | ||
| Nobody really wanted to address it. | ||
| And so, from what I gathered, that had been likely an UAP. | ||
| And so that kind of was my perspective. | ||
| Granted, I also grew up in the generation of the X Files and, you know, I don't know if you remember 94 Independence Day. | ||
| So, like, for me specifically, I didn't look at it with a crazy lens and perspective. | ||
| I'm like, you know, you never know if, you know, we're the only ones out there essentially. | ||
| But why did you assume that if it's a top secret incursion that he couldn't talk about, that it wasn't just a military plane from another country? | ||
| Because of the way that he was discussing it. | ||
| How did he what he said? | ||
| So he had been, he didn't want, from what I gather, to they get taken off flight status and he's like, I really can't discuss it. | ||
| We couldn't really identify it essentially and it had outperformed them. | ||
| And so that was my first from a military perspective, kind of experience with someone who basically, you know, there's a stigma within the flight community. | ||
| Do you want to lose your security clearance? | ||
| What, you know, is there this level of crazy that people kind of brand that will stick with you and kind of ruin your career? | ||
| But doesn't he have instrumentation on his jet? | ||
| Well, at the time, right? | ||
| So an older platform, but he really didn't want to even talk about it. | ||
| And I bring that up because now with our investigation and the task force that I run. | ||
| Actually, the reason why the task force was formed was because of an event that happened at Eglin Air Force Base where both myself, Representative MacGates and Representative Tim Burcha had actually responded and went to investigate multiple Air Force pilots that had come forward in regard to UAP incidents that had occurred. | ||
| They were alleging that the Air Force was covering it up. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| Yes, so that was that, and like, I'm happy to go into detail on that one, but what I will tell you is the stuff that I saw at Eglin, how the military responded, me being, you know, a former service member, and then ultimately what I saw with the pushback of the military not even wanting to share with Con Congress information, which is a big problem because when you have Congress that's supposed to be the advocate and voice for the American people, the oversight body, and you're being denied access, not just from a base commander, but high level up at the Pentagon, even Secretary of Defense, it's a problem. | ||
| Do you think that it's possible that these are US vehicles that are top secret? | ||
| I definitely think that there's a level of advanced technology that the US government has. | ||
| And I think that that tech can be housed within the defense contractor realm. | ||
| And of course, some information will be classified. | ||
| But I can also tell you, and this may sound crazy, but based on our investigations and stuff that we've seen, okay, there is definitely something. | ||
| something that I think would rival what we know currently with physics and a tech that potentially is out there that we don't have the ability to reproduce because it would basically be like dropping a cell phone off during the time of maybe cavemans. | ||
| So like we just don't have the tech to develop it yet. | ||
| What I can also tell you is based on our interviews, and this has been something that you can go back and watch with the congressional hearings, but I was actually able to ask some of the witnesses, you know, what are these things? | ||
| And they keep saying interdimensional. | ||
| And then when you talk about the interdimensional aspect of, you know, are these things preexisting, maybe outside of what we currently know as our own dimension. | ||
| That stuff can kind of all sound crazy, but at the end of the day, you know, my job as an investigator is to receive all the information, decipher it, and then ultimately from a congressional aspect, if you do have contractors that are holding information or operating outside of the view of the federal government, I mean, there's budgetary issues, but there's definitely something that I can tell you with confidence that exists that we don't know how to explain currently. | ||
| So when you say that it operates outside our understanding of physics, what specifically are you saying? | ||
| Like, what happened? | ||
| To, to, I guess, break it down in simple terms is that I think that some of the tech that exists. | ||
| that whatever these things have, these energy things have. | ||
| They can be things? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, they call them interdimensional beings. | ||
| I think that they can actually operate through the time spaces that we currently have. | ||
| And that's not something that I came up with on my own. | ||
| That's based on stuff that we've seen. | ||
| That's based on information that we've been told, and then also, I think that there's this historical aspect of, you know, this gets into the deeper theories and concepts of religion and I think the history that we currently know. | ||
| And that kind of spins off into another topic of, you know, you have the modern Bible. | ||
| You have this aspect of Bibles or books of the Bibleible that have been removed that explain and kind of touch on these topics. | ||
| And I think that we're in a time and age where you have such a vast amount of information that we have access to via social media, via your cell phone, via the internet. | ||
| And so it's really changing the way that we understand, you know, the origins of life and the spiritual reality that we know. | ||
| When you say interdimensional beings that they know that these are interdimensional beings, how do they know that? | ||
| That, so, based on testimony would be based on witnesses that have come forward. | ||
| But what I can tell you is that the witnesses just were told that they were interdimensional beings. | ||
| We were told that they were no, no, that they've seen things. | ||
| And what I can tell you without getting into classified conversations is that there have been incidents that I believe where very credible people have reported that there have been movement outside of time and space. | ||
| That's very vague. | ||
| Yeah, so look, unfortunately. | ||
| Yeah, yeah, look, have I seen a portal open? | ||
| No. | ||
| Have I seen a spaceship? | ||
| Personally, no. | ||
| Have I seen evidence of this? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Have I seen photocompletion of aircraft that. | ||
| that I believe were not made by mankind? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Is there historical significance to this? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Is there multiple events that go back to, I would argue, maybe even before the time of Christ that have documented this in texts? | ||
| Yes. | ||
| So do I believe that the government has access to certain technology? | ||
| Yes, to an extent. | ||
| And I believe that certain contractors potentially have back engineered this tech. | ||
| I think that that's what can explain the advancements that we're seeing. | ||
| But I also believe that this is a dangerous level of hidden information from the American people because if you have an aspect of the federal government, which I can tell you. | ||
| I with two other members of Congress were denied access to information at Eglin Air Force Base pertaining to whistleblowers because of the fact and we can get into that story on what happened to Eglin in a second, but we were denied access and told that we don't have security clearance or the read and authority on a special access program. | ||
| That's a problem because I'm supposed to represent and be an investigative body and you have then people who are unelected that are operating basically in secrecy and that's a problem. | ||
| That's a big problem. | ||
| And so how do these people have the authority to do that? | ||
| I think it's been decades of classified secret information, then also this aspect of the intelligence community that's been empowered. | ||
| And it's kind of serendipitous with timing because when you talk about the intelligence communities and what they've done essentially to the trust in this country with the American people, I think this goes all the way back even into JFK with how they basically have operated outside of the view of Congress and basically to some extent have gone rogue up until recently. | ||
| You're seeing a big push and pull to try to reign in these intelligence agencies currently. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So what I want to bring it back to evidence. | ||
| You said that you've seen evidence. | ||
| Like what kind of evidence have you seen? | ||
| I have seen photos. | ||
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I have seen What have you seen photos of? | |
| So I was in a skiff and I can't discuss all that was in a skiff, but what I can tell you is based on the photos that I've seen, I'm very confident that there are things out there that have not been created by mankind. | ||
| It seems crazy that people have access to information that shows that there is something outside of us that is more intelligent, at least more capable than we are, and they hide it from everyone else. | ||
| What I can tell you is that when you have thousands and upon thousands of people around the planet throughout time that have reported something. | ||
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Right. | |
| To say that those people are crazy to say that, you know, the whole concept of even just asking the question that you might not necessarily be psychologically sound, that in itself, you know, that's a disinformation campaign to get people to shut up about it. | ||
| And that's a problem. | ||
| We know that the US government has not exactly been clean in a lot of what they've done with the American people, specifically on the topic of UFOs. | ||
| Which makes you think that it's probably because there's something there. | ||
| If you think about the motivation they had with Project Blue Book, when J. Allen Hyneck was running Project Blue Book, this specific intention was to discredit all stories. | ||
| And he ended up ultimately, though, after all his investigations, ah, I think there's something you can do. | ||
| But that's true. | ||
| By the way, a lot of people might not necessarily go on to Google and look up that information, but you can actually look up the declassified reports from Project Blue Book. | ||
| What's also interesting though is when we're talking about tech, right, the ability for this tech being that it exists to change dependence for entire governments on things like fossil fuel, et cetera. | ||
| Look, I think everyone has a moral obligation to do what they think is right. | ||
| And so if you're in a position of power and you see something wrong and you're not addressing it, I think this in itself, getting the truth out there for people to decide for themselves. | ||
| I'm not telling you what to believe. | ||
| I'm just telling you in our investigations and what we're pushing for in regard to transparency. | ||
| I would like to see the federal government roll out some of the stuff that we've been given access to, because I think that that information belongs in the hands of the American people. | ||
| And it's not even just the US government. | ||
| I mean, there are other countries around the world that have done certain things like this. | ||
| Now, look, I've had a lot of crazy people show up at my office and say, you know, I like I've heard it else. | ||
| I've been to Mars. | ||
| You know, I have a chip in my brain on the stuff. | ||
| They all have chips. | ||
| We had this one guy that showed up that was like trying to give us a USB. | ||
| He's like, put this in your computer. | ||
| They're gonna kill me for this. | ||
| Like, runs away. | ||
| And I'm like, I'm not putting that in my computer. | ||
| But based on our investigations, what I will tell you is, you know, there have been two members of Congress that are actually helping to lead out these investigations with me. | ||
| And the reason I say that is because up until last Congress, if you even said the word UAP or UFO, people actually told us that if we went forward with these investigations, we were going to ruin our political careers. | ||
| And so, you know, we're in the mindset of, well, like, why wouldn't we ask these questions? | ||
| And also, too, if no one wants to touch it, like, there must be something here, right? | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so in these investigations, I mean, the amount of people that will come up to us, very successful people, to multiple members of Congress that believe the same thing. | ||
| It's definitely changed in regard to the stigma that used to exist about disclosure and all this. | ||
| And so what we're trying to do currently was there's a big documentary that was filmed about a year and a half ago, and we're trying to get a screening up on Capitol Hill. | ||
| But look, I think a lot of people say, well, this is a distraction from everything else happening in the country right now. | ||
| And all I'm simply trying to say is, it's not a distraction. | ||
| The people that are kind of helping to divulge all this information, you have an intelligence community, you know, Tulsi Gabbard, Radcliffe, Cash Patel, they've been, truly, in regard to our other investigations, extremely transparent and wanting to get this information out. | ||
| But it doesn't mean that within these intelligence communities there isn't pushback. | ||
| And so part of the reason why the task force was formed, pertaining to things like UAP, pertaining to things like Jeffrey Epstein stuff, pertaining to things like the JFK, MLK and RFK investigations, is because even though we don't hold declassification authority, what we're trying to do is push these agencies and be, if you will, the pit bull and the attack dog on trying to get this information released. | ||
| And to many of these agencies' credits, they've been extremely transparent and we have gone win specifically on the JFK stuff. | ||
| And we're still looking to declassify and ask specifically on the UAP topic. | ||
| What would be the rationale for keeping a photograph of a known app? | ||
| absolute not of this world craft from the American people or from the world. | ||
| Why would anybody think that that would be the smart thing to do is to limit the access of that information to a very small amount of people? | ||
| I think that part of the fear is that you have advisors that think that, you know, the American people or humanity might not be able to handle it. | ||
| There's this like protective complex, but then also too, I think when you are talking about these things, for a lot of people, I think that it kind of can rock your world a little bit in regards to where you stand in aff a faith perspective and then also to an aspect of, well, how do you even begin to explain it? | ||
| And all I'm going to say is, look, and we can go into some of the books that were removed from what we know as the modern day Bible, but I read through the book of Enoch multiple times. | ||
| And I'm not saying that these things are angels, okay? | ||
| That's not at all what I'm saying, but what I am saying is that depending on where you are in regards to your whole perspective on whether God exists or not, like I believe in God, I'm a Christian, there must have been, and there are admissions that there were other creations that God made, but that we were the most prized creation. | ||
| And so I think that this can open up a bigger topic of discussion. | ||
| What I will say is that what's been interesting is, and I've had a mass array of people that have come in, right? | ||
| Like we have people that come in and claim that you can use this ability to basically dog whistle these things in from a like a psychic ability. | ||
| Yeah, I've heard people say that. | ||
| And I think that there's some, something there. | ||
| Otherwise, they wouldn't necessarily be able to provide some of the video evidence that they have. | ||
| But then that also brings up the question of if these things are interdimensional, which we've had witnesses testify to, to members of Congress, and that was all publicly out there. | ||
| Then bring up the whole, well, if this is really transcending dimension, the power of what you say, thought, all of that. | ||
| And then you can look into our own government's declassified documents that the CIA had on different experiments. | ||
| I mean, you can literally, last week I was going through, actually on a Friday night, just put my son down, and I was going through some of the declassified, you go to cia dot gov slash reading room, and you can see all the declassified documents. | ||
| And so I believe it was called Stargate, and it was talking about the basically psychological experiments where they were trying to basically remote view and all that. | ||
| Why would our own government be looking into that if there wasn't something there? | ||
| And so I'm appreciative to all that information being publicly out there, but I think this whole idea and stigma of trying to make it sound crazy when people actually have these questions, that needs to stop, which is why the task force is in existence. | ||
| And then also, they need to release information. | ||
| If I was going to play Devil's Advocate, I would say that the government would look into that to find out if there's anything there. | ||
| And that would probably take a long time if they're really being careful. | ||
| So if I was going to fund a program, if someone told me that there's some people in Russia that can remote view military sites in America, I'd be like, are you sure? | ||
| And they'd be like, yeah, yeah, there's a technique involved and we know the technique. | ||
| And we want to fund some sort of study to see if we can do it. | ||
| I'm like, let's go. | ||
| What do you need? | ||
| Because if maybe it's real. | ||
| So I don't buy that they wouldn't spend money on it unless it's real. | ||
| I say they would spend money on it to find out if you're really looking out for national security, right? | ||
| You've got 300 plus million people that you're responsible for. | ||
| You got to dot your i's and cross your t's. | ||
| And like, if I'm good at my job and I'm not an egomaniac, I'm going to go, maybe there's some shit I don't know. | ||
| Well, there's looking into it and then there's expanding, right? | ||
| And so if you look at all those declassified files, you know, you can pull up. | ||
| And this is just wild, but there was one where I was looking through and they had basically, you know, the Coast Guard had called in. | ||
| There was a ship that they had been given information on that was running drugs. | ||
| And so they called in one of their remote viewers and they're trying to give coordinates, coordinates of the ship and actually like, basically locate these things. | ||
| And I actually was laughing because I was reading this off the website, I'm telling my husband, like, imagine, you know, you're trying to run drugs and then all of a sudden you have some weird guy at Langley. | ||
| We're like in a basement. | ||
| They're like, no, dude, like, did you need the coordinates? | ||
| You know, beat me up, Scotty. | ||
| Yeah, I don't know if they write things down or type them out or what, but I talked to Hal Putoff about it and he said they used it to to very specifically find the dru location of a downed Russian craft within like a couple kilometers, which is nuts. | ||
| If you think about the area where this thing crashed, it's like remote wilderness, in the middle of nowhere. | ||
| Russia hadn't found it yet. | ||
| Apparently, we found it first, according to Hal Putoff. | ||
| It's just because I haven't done it and because I don't know that it's real doesn't mean it's not real. | ||
| And this is a problem with people. | ||
| They don't want to get duped and they don't want to look stupid. | ||
| They don't want to look naive. | ||
| And so they dismiss things. | ||
| They dismiss that there might be frequencies that you don't tune into all the time. | ||
| And someone might get really good at that and they might be able to See things remotely. | ||
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| Well, I think that this gets into the bigger discussion of what do we know, right? | ||
| Going back to some of these books that were moved. | ||
| There's a good podcast right now called the Autistic Tapes, and it talks about how some non-speaking or nonverbal autistic kids actually are exhibiting telepathy. | ||
| I mean the telepathy tapes. | ||
| Yeah, they're the, yeah, sorry, the telepathy tapes. | ||
| Nonverbal autistic kids are exhibiting telepathy. | ||
| You know, this concept, again, if you were to talk about it twenty years ago, people would call you crazy, but, you know, I think based on what we're seeing now, based on the fact that our own governments looked into it, based on the stuff that you were saying, I mean, you can find all this information publicly available and it's out there, and I think that there's something to it. | ||
| And so, you know, we're seeing and we've heard this from people that have come forward saying, you know, we're being able via meditation, we're essentially like downloading information, we can communicate with these things. | ||
| Given, you know, when I'm sitting in my Congressional office and I'm hearing this, I take it with a grain of salt because we do get a lot of crazy people, but when you have people that are high level executives, very successful, clean cut, not on drugs, are coming in and they're telling you this stuff, and then you're kind of cross referencing it with various people in intelligence agencies, I just think that there's something there and we need to be at least open to hearing the discussion and the argument for these things. | ||
| Oh, for sure. | ||
| I mean, like I said., if there's a photo out there, I think you owe humanity a service. | ||
| You, you're supposed to release that photograph. | ||
| There's no reason why a small group of people in the government should have photoconclusive evidence that aliens are real. | ||
| And there's an overclassification aspect of this too, right? | ||
| Like if you're serving in the military and you're taking a photo on your personal device or a video on your personal device, that shouldn't be the review of the federal government. | ||
| And either way, I mean, there's been so much stuff, there's granted, there's been a lot of fake stuff put out there. | ||
| But the stuff that is legitimate that we are seeing, the stuff that we had people testify to in our congressional hearings, I mean, that's not even more interesting to this is that I was actually able to talk to David Grosch, who now is actually working with the task force to kind of chase down a lot of these leads in regards to some of these contractors that allegedly have this tech, right? | ||
| So in talking with him, again, not in a Skiff, we were able to actually flesh out that prior to him testifying that he actually received very real threats against his life and his wife, his wife's life. | ||
| He's a sound guy. | ||
| And then shortly after he testified, this was there's this massive smear operation that was launched against him to try to discredit his testimony. | ||
| And so, you know, again going into, well, if this stuff wasn't real or if he wasn't t telling the truth, why would there be this massively orchestrated effort to, you know, completely just to refute what he was trying to say or to discredit his actions and his testimony? | ||
| And so it is kind of coming full circle, right? | ||
| Going back to what the task force has been able to find out. | ||
| I mean, we're conducting these investigations simultaneously and we're doing this in addition to everything that we, to everything else that we have to do as members of Congress, right? | ||
| So although I would love to just dedicate my full time and attention to this, we still have to balance it out. | ||
| And so I've again had some great investigators who are working with us on oversight as well as a lot of cooperation from the intelligence agencies. | ||
| And we are going to be asking for this information to be declassified, at least information that has been shown to us. | ||
| I think the first break in the wall was that twenty seventeen New York Times report where they were talking about it in logical, sensible language that these things might be from another world. | ||
| But I think that movie that you're discussing, which is The Age of Disclosure. | ||
| Yeah, I haven't seen it. | ||
| Have you seen it? | ||
| It's very good. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's very good. | ||
| It's very good and it doesn't even have any UFO footage. | ||
| I mean, maybe like a little bit. | ||
| It's just testimony. | ||
| It's just testimony. | ||
| And at the end of it, you kind of draw this conclusion like, oh, this makes sense. | ||
| Like this, what they're essentially saying is one of the problems is. | ||
| if they have been funding these secret programs, then for all these years they've been misappropriating money. | ||
| Oh yeah. | ||
| And they've been lying to Congress. | ||
| And that's super illegal. | ||
| Very illegal, but you know, like, is it illegal? | ||
| Is Congress going to do anything about it? | ||
| Because it's not the first time. | ||
| Like, we have the ability, and this is the most frustrating thing. | ||
| So, as a this is my second term in Congress now, but as a first term member of Congress, you know, when you, Joe, when you get elected to Congress, you would think that they would bring you in and they'd say, okay, this is how you do the legislation. | ||
| No, you get elected, you show up to kind of a crash course for about like a week and a half on how not getting into trouble with ethics, and then you're basically wined and dined by lobbyists. | ||
| They don't actually tell you how to do the legislation. | ||
| Basically, the only rules that you're told are never vote down a rule, which is a procedural motion to bring legislation to the floor, and don't really ever vote against your party, of which within the first week I broke both rules, and so I was on the naughty list, as usual. | ||
| But the thing is, they tell you how to do it. | ||
| That's kind of crazy. | ||
| Well, they tell you basically those are the two rules, two rules, and don't go against that, and you won't have any problems. | ||
| But those are big ass rules, though. | ||
| Yeah, because it's like, you know, you're supposed to represent your constituency. | ||
| So if you have people calling your office and saying don't vote for this, and then you vote against it, it's like people forget that you're supposed to represent, right, representative instead of just doing what the party wants. | ||
| But, you know, there is, there are mechanisms. | ||
| that have existed since Thomas Jefferson, who wrote our damn rule manual that enable us to actually pass legislation and actually hold agencies and people accountable from a punitive perspective. | ||
| And I don't know if you were tracking, but like I brought a vote on the former Attorney General for basically refusing to testify to Congress and respond to a subpoena. | ||
| And that was called inherent contempt. | ||
| And a lot of Congress is like, what the hell is inherent contempt? | ||
| It hadn't been done since the early 1900s. | ||
| And I actually read it in the rule manual and I read the rule manual twice. | ||
| It's like so crazy what happens when you read books. | ||
| But we were able to find this out. | ||
| And it was a mechanism that Congress can use to actually. | ||
| send the sergeant at arms to go arrest people. | ||
| Geez. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So one of the things that this documentary was calling for that I think is the only logical way to solve this is a mass amnesty for these people that misappropriated money and or whistleblowers. | ||
| Or whistleblowers. | ||
| The whistleblowers thing is crazy. | ||
| Like, they leave them alone. | ||
| Like, come on. | ||
| Of course, everybody should fucking know this stuff, guys. | ||
| The real crime is you keeping this secret from humanity. | ||
| That's the real crime. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| The other stuff is horseshit. | ||
| It's just interpretations of what you're w making up rules. | ||
| But if you ask the general public how they feel this should go, a rational, normal person would say, There's no fucking way the defense contractors should be the only people who know that we're not alone. | ||
| Fuck you. | ||
| Especially when we're facing a massive deficit and you see that they're like the Pentagon hasn't been able to pass the audit and I don't know how many people have been able to pass it. | ||
| All that stuff is great. | ||
| But just for humanity, just for humanity, that is a giant piece of information that no one should have. | ||
| No one should secretly keep information that would change our entire perspective on our existence. | ||
| It's definitely wrong that it's happening, for sure. | ||
| What I will tell you though is the issue that we have with bringing forward legislation that would give mass amnesty and pardon to these people is that there are people within the intelligence community and within Congress on both sides that will try to, if you come forward with this, and I'll tell you a very prime example of this in a moment, that they will block it. | ||
| They don't want it to pass. | ||
| They will stop it from even coming to the floor. | ||
| They won't bring legislation that will address it because they want to keep this information secret. | ||
| So Representative Tim Burchett, why do they want to keep the information secret? | ||
| that their mouthpieces and control of the deep state. | ||
| And that's a thing and it exists on both sides. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| So someone will come to them with marching point, marching order. | ||
| Representative Tim Burchett, before I was elected, was kind of on his own little islands in regard to the UAP stuff. | ||
| And he will himself tell you that, you know, this is 100% like a thing and that these defense contractors and what he believes, you know, the Pentagon not passing audits, all this, these block budget programs. | ||
| I mean, like he will tell you, he's again been leading out this effort well before I got there. | ||
| He had a piece of legislation that was supposed to enable the FAA to report and develop a different reporting procedure for UAP stuff. | ||
| And at the time, the chairman of Intel ensured that legislation was not brought forward, that it was stopped. | ||
| The piece of legislation that actually passed out of the Senate, it really had no teeth to it. | ||
| And then Representative Burchett drew a primary challenger that was being backed by the Chairman of Intel. | ||
| And so, you know, when you are touching these, it's like, you know that meme where you have that stork that's like, Don't touch this, and then the little foot comes out. | ||
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| It's kind of like what we're doing, and it's not exactly easy because you'll take heat from both sides. | ||
| But there has been a good group that has been assembled that's bicameral, meaning it's both in the House and the Senate, and bipartisan, meaning both Democrats and Republicans are saying, like, Hey, this should actually happen. | ||
| Are they publicly talking about not touching this the information or is all this stuff done in secrecy? | ||
| It's done behind the scenes. | ||
| Because if they had to do it publicly, if they had to announce their position on it publicly, it would be very damaging, I think, to anybody's political career on the right or the left. | ||
| People would be pissed, right? | ||
| Well, they're pissed. | ||
| Because I'm pissed. | ||
| Because if if they've had it for this long, I mean, if they really did recover something as early as 1947, excuse me. | ||
| Well, what I can tell you is for us specifically, we actually were made aware, some people had come forward that said they wanted to brief us. | ||
| So about two years ago, when all this started, we had requested briefings from Aero that's in charge of compiling the investigative aspect of UAP stuff. | ||
| And by the way, from the get-go, I like even talking to Aero, I was like, this organization is literally a BS organization. | ||
| They're never going to tell us anything. | ||
| And every interaction that we had in the Skiff, I was like, this is a nothing, burger. | ||
| But then these people came forward and said that they were actually denied, they were told not to brief our group specifically on this topic, and that it was from, at the time, members of House leadership, but they wouldn't say who. | ||
| And so I actually went with another member of Congress and confronted multiple people, and they all denied denying us access. | ||
| So it's done behind the scenes. | ||
| You'll see these random little troll blockages that might pop up. | ||
| But what I can tell you is that with the new administration, specifically with the FBI, specifically with ODNI, we have got transparency to where previously we would have been stonewalled. | ||
| We were actually given briefings. | ||
| And so what I will tell you is we are going to push for the information that we sought to be out there for the American people to see. | ||
| So do you think that the whole idea of disclosure is maybe a multiple step, very agonizing, frustratingly slow process rather than a big dump of all the information that they've had from Roswell to the Aztec one. | ||
| Apparently there's a whole slew, I don't know if it's Aztec, I forgot the name of it. | ||
| But there was another during that same time period, there was a really prominent UFO recovery thing that was not as publicized as the one in Roswell. | ||
| The big mistake with the Roswell one was the newspaper printed it. | ||
| And so then they had to backtrack and then they had to do the press conference where they had like some scattered pieces of a weather balloon that didn't look at all like an UFO. | ||
| And then they said, Oh, that's nothing. | ||
| Yeah, but in the meantime they flew the wreckageage and Truman met them there, supposedly. | ||
| Well, I can tell you, in our hearing, we were actually notified and you can pull this up. | ||
| We were, I think it was one of the witnesses had talked about what had happened at Vandenberg Air Base, where there was this thing that appeared over the base. | ||
| It actually had multiple blotters reporting on it from phone calls to law enforcement from like hundreds of people. | ||
| And whatever had appeared over the base was basically bigger than a football field and basically a cube, a red cube with some weird thing in the center of it. | ||
| I actually had our witness draw this out. | ||
| This guy is sober as a priest. | ||
| I mean, he was a great pilot and he's talking about all this. | ||
| And so, you know, you talk about this, it seems like a sci-fi movie, but Based on the evidence that we've seen, I don't have any reason to believe that these people are lying. | ||
| Based on the evidence that I've seen from our own government, I think that there's something there that the American people deserve to have access to. | ||
| And so I've been, this is not just on this topic, but again, in other topics as well. | ||
| This has been my perspective is transparency is what builds trust. | ||
| Other governments have revealed certain information on it. | ||
| To think that we are the only life form on this planet or in this galaxy, I think is a little bit crazy, given the fact that I also think God exists and that there are other creations. | ||
| But then again, you get into this aspect of why is it that you also have this aspect of a certain religion that has been very controlled and I think rolled out in a certain aspect. | ||
| And when you have certain books that are removed because they don't think that people should have access to this information or know it, you know, why remove a book from a Bible, right? | ||
| Did Wes Huff, did he touch on that? | ||
| Did he talk about that? | ||
| Are there people that don't believe the book of Enoch was really a part of the Bible? | ||
| I don't remember how he discussed the missing books. | ||
| He basically brought it up, but I don't remember how. | ||
| That's the guy to talk to. | ||
| Yeah, so from what I got to talk to, you know what I mean? | ||
| Because you have to really understand the history of the Bible to be able to figure out what, you know, what's legitimate, what's not, why they put it into the New Testament. | ||
| I had some very erroneous ideas about it until I talked to intelligent people that really, really know the history of it. | ||
| And it's, it's very strange stuff. | ||
| Well, so from what I gather, and by the way, I'm not a theologian in any capacity, but just from my personal opinion on this, so you have the Ethiopian Orthodox text, which has, I think, eighty eight books of the Bible in total. | ||
| But in the Ethiopian Orthodox text, it's basically kind of like a mainline OG version of the Bible. | ||
| And then sometime in the fourth century, there was actually a group that came together and they removed certain books, and the story goes that Revelations actually had replaced Enoch. | ||
| And so it's interesting because when you're looking kind of a full circle and you hear the stuff that some of these people are talking about, and then you see and you read the book of Enoch, which is a wild read, okay? | ||
| And then you look at kind of what our modern day description is of what angels and entities are versus what Enoch was seeing and reporting in his language and ability at that time. | ||
| I just think that there's a lot that brings you to then ask the question, well, why would they remove this information? | ||
| If it's truly written in part of the oldest Bible in the world, why would they then take it out? | ||
| And I'm not saying that you can't find God through the new Bible, right? | ||
| Like everyone's on their own spiritual journey and I think everyone can pray and you can access God. | ||
| But I just find that very interesting. | ||
| And so what I will say is that I like to have the whole kind of picture in front of me. | ||
| And so I feel like to fully understand A through Z, you kind of have to be able to read it. | ||
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| Yeah, I just don't know about the history of it. | ||
| Is there any debate about whether or not it was either fraudulent or discredited or something? | ||
| The book of Enoch? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like why did they because I know there was some kind of controversy that Wes Huff described. | ||
| I just can't remember. | ||
| I don't, I just looked through a transcript real quick. | ||
| I didn't see you guys discussing Enoch, we're discussing Isaiah and then the Dead Sea Rolls and stuff like that. | ||
| I didn't see Enoch discussing No, it must have been I privately talking to him about something, another video that I watched. | ||
| The thing about like what Wes Huff does that's so interesting is like he really understands like the history of the text, the language in which they used, the names in which they chose. | ||
| And when he broke it all, one of the things he told us that was the craziest was that the book of Isaiah was exactly the same in the Dead Sea Scrolls as it was a thousand years later. | ||
| That they found one that was a thousand years older and it was direct. | ||
| It was word for word, verbatim. | ||
| I'm like, that's bananas. | ||
| A thousand year old story that's exactly the same written that they didn't know there was a version of it a thousand years ago. | ||
| And then they find it in these text. | ||
| It's confirmed in text. | ||
| It's nuts. | ||
| It's really weird. | ||
| Really, really weird stuff. | ||
| And the fact that this kid, you know, Shepard kid was able to even find these scrolls that they were set up and, you know, just has led to that point. | ||
| right in time where he finds this massive, basically, admission that the Bible is real. | ||
| You can actually look into, you know, there's the New King James, and then you can actually look into the Catholic Bible as well, that also has, they call them apocrypha texts because the King James Bible doesn't even know know them, but there are also other books that are not considered, you know, approved by the King James. | ||
| So, look, I was, on my mom's side, I was actually raised Catholic and then had my Catechism did all that. | ||
| And then on my dad's side, I was raised Christian and then later Messianic Jew. | ||
| And so I feel like I have a kind of a good cross section and I've been exposed to a lot of this growing up. | ||
| But it's definitely interesting. | ||
| And so, look, I don't tell people like, I'm not, I'm not saying that like aliens created mankind. | ||
| I don't believe that because I, at the end of the day, believe that God is responsible for our creation. | ||
| But I do think that what we've been programmed to believe in regard to our ability to be able to use our mind, the spiritual aspect of us really does exist, and I think that once you kind of remove yourself out of this, basically, rat race, and you can really reconnect with that, I think that that's when you kind of realize, hey, there's a bigger purpose here in life and like, what is our end objective? | ||
| And if you're given a position of influence or a position of power and you're not doing the right thing for humanity, you're not guiding people, then that's something that you have to answer for. | ||
| So I want to make sure that I'm good with God. | ||
| I hear you. | ||
| That's a lot. | ||
| I think these stories, especially when you get to stories like Noah and the Ark, and that these stories exist in basically every religion, they're real similar. | ||
| They're real similar. | ||
| I think all of these people are trying to document a truth. | ||
| It's just what is that truth is what, where it gets weird. | ||
| And when it gets to like other gods and giants and giants created man. | ||
| Well, Enoch talks about that. | ||
| Yeah, oh, I know. | ||
| It's just crazy. | ||
| I know. | ||
| It's wild stuff. | ||
| If it's legitimate, it's wild stuff. | ||
| And then do you know anything about. | ||
| the Ethiopian church that supposedly has the Ark of the Covenant in it? | ||
| Yeah, I've looked into that. | ||
| I actually wanted to, and again, you're in the government. | ||
| You can like, yeah, so I actually wanted to do a codel to just, but of course, like we're focusing on other things right now. | ||
| They're bringing seals, find that for me. | ||
| I was like, I need to pay for this for myself, so we're not using tax-free dollars, but just go check it out. | ||
| What's interesting is the CIA allegedly located the Ark of the Covenant, and I think the remote viewed. | ||
| They remote viewed it. | ||
| You can actually find that. | ||
| You should actually find it in Ethiopia? | ||
| No, not in Ethiopia, but it was in a Middle Eastern country. | ||
| They were not able to locate the actual, I think the New York Post did an article on it where they actually had the handwritten notes on the Ark of the Covenant location. | ||
| And they remote viewed it. | ||
| You should ask them what they're talking about. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| I'm serious about it. | ||
| Did they go there and see if they did? | ||
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| They did. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| This is like Indiana Jones. | ||
| Decades old CIA documents on Arca the Covenant resurface amid classified group text spat. | ||
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| Wait, like, yeah. | ||
| It was a group text argument that caused this stuff to be No, check out, pull up the New York Post one, because they actually have the handwritten notes from the remote viewer that actually documents it. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| It should be, I think it's like the New York Post. | ||
| That's so funny. | ||
| There you go. | ||
| Top one. | ||
| This is wild, because it actually goes into descriptions of angels too. | ||
| And so actually, if So in Enoch, it talks about., well, if you scroll down now, that's that you can probably click on the scribed because it will show you all the documents from the actual declassified file. | ||
| This is also on cia dot com. | ||
| What year was this? | ||
| This happened recently. | ||
| This was like a couple months ago that this just kind of came out. | ||
| Right, but what year was this project? | ||
| 1988. | ||
| 1988. | ||
| 5 December 1988. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| So scroll down. | ||
| So in 1988 they found the Ark of the Congress. | ||
| Allegedly they remote viewed it. | ||
| We don't know if they followed up. | ||
| Who was president back then? | ||
| Reagan? | ||
| Go down. | ||
| Bush. | ||
| Senior? | ||
| Okay, so scroll down and then you'll see that. | ||
| So this is like a they're so they're going through in the notes. | ||
| You have to read it, but you can scroll down. | ||
| This is kind of So this is like drawing where it is. | ||
| The remote viewer. | ||
| So you have like the different things. | ||
| that are describing it, and if you keep going, you'll see like a cherubim. | ||
| Keep going. | ||
| It's like showing the peak of your. | ||
| Oh, wait, wait, sorry. | ||
| Go up a little bit. | ||
| So that's interesting because if you look into the actual, so there's like a wheel text. | ||
| If you look into Enoch's description of angels and Ezekiel too, I think that's kind of a tie, but go down more. | ||
| So, but yeah, you have like the actual here purpose of container. | ||
| They should have like a cherubim drawing somewhere here. | ||
| Okay, see? | ||
| So that would be the seraphim. | ||
| So it's interesting. | ||
| So you see the what? | ||
| The seraphim. | ||
| How it's opened. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So basically when they describe the ark, and so he's going through describing. | ||
| So these are the hand notes for it. | ||
| And then it actually says that it's in a in a Middle Eastern country. | ||
| The remote viewer describes the clothing which individuals are in the area. | ||
| I feel like I'm describing like an Indiana Jones movie, but this is actually from the CIA. | ||
| This image, scroll back to where that? | ||
| What is that thing? | ||
| Is that the corner of the box? | ||
| The Covenant, yeah. | ||
| He's describing if you go up and these are actually the handwritten notes on what was described by the remote viewer. | ||
| And you have to go through the entire document, but yeah, that's what's described surrounding the Ark. | ||
| Do you know what they asked him to find? | ||
| Well, yeah, the Ark of the Covenant. | ||
| You can find it in the documents. | ||
| If you go higher up in the documents, it's over there. | ||
| Right. | ||
| But if you asked me to go look for the Ark of the Covenant, right. | ||
| Like, I know what I'm looking for, right? | ||
| Well, I guess. | ||
| Apparently these remote viewers. | ||
| I draw what I think it's going to like, show me that they fucking found it. | ||
| I don't I don't know if they did, but they did. | ||
| I don't know if they did either, but it's like, it's interesting, but it's not as interesting because you're saying, show me the Ark of the Covenant, right? | ||
| So he's drawing what we all saw in Indiana Jones. | ||
| Or can you locate it? | ||
| So the description. | ||
| That was before Indiana Jones? | ||
| No, that was in the same time period. | ||
| When did Indiana Jones come out? | ||
| What a great. | ||
| The nineties, right? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I'm thinking. | ||
| And like the first two are the best. | ||
| The New and the Lost Ark was the first one. | ||
| That's the one. | ||
| What year was that? | ||
| 1981. | ||
| Okay, so Precursor? | ||
| So that's seven years earlier. | ||
| Everybody saw that movie a hundred times. | ||
| You know what it looks like. | ||
| You know what the arc looks like. | ||
| So if I tell you, go draw me the arc, where is it? | ||
| You think we have only some scribbles on paper, unless they actually went there and found it. | ||
| Well, what's interesting, and I should probably ask Radcliffe, like, Radcliffe, can you tell me this story? | ||
| I never knew the arc of the covenant. | ||
| What are you saying, Jamie? | ||
| It says the mission is to access and describe the target identified by coordinates, and then there's coordinates. | ||
| The tasking is to see mission statement. | ||
| Training target is the arc of the covenant. | ||
| So they did say, go find us the arc of the covenant. | ||
| And then this dude apparently said keep AOL to a minimum. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| I saw that on that paper earlier. | ||
| I have to be careful with editing though. | ||
| This doesn't seem to be a problem at this time, just something to watch for. | ||
| Attained excellent site contact. | ||
| Okay. | ||
| Definitely interesting. | ||
| Well, it's weird that they're talking about it like it's a real talent, like some can actually do it. | ||
| Mosque domes. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Target is in a container. | ||
| This container is in another container. | ||
| It has another container inside it. | ||
| The target is fashioned of wood, gold and silver. | ||
| The target is similar in shape to AOL. | ||
| So that's that something of location, right? | ||
| Is that what it means? | ||
| Area of location. | ||
| Area of location. | ||
| Yeah, that's it. | ||
| A coffin and it's decorated with the Serafim Sea sketch. | ||
| This target is located somewhere in the Middle East as the language spoken by individuals present seem to be Arabic. | ||
| Well, wouldn't you want someone who could fucking decipher Arabic to do this? | ||
| We don't know how far it went and I definitely have questions, but this would not be the first time that a government would have looked for something, especially because people theorize that the Ark of the Covenant had these abilities as a super weapon. | ||
| I know, but I'm saying like the remote viewer is limited by his ability to understand the language. | ||
| Stop, scroll back up, please. | ||
| Right there. | ||
| So somewhere in the Middle East, visuals of surrounding buildings indicated that the area, the presence of mosque domes, individuals in the area were clothed virtually all white, had black hair and dark eyes. | ||
| One figure I honed it on wore a mustache. | ||
| The target is hidden underground, dark and wet were all aspects of the location of the target. | ||
| See, the only problem I ever have with these things is if these places are all controlled by terrorists and it's all, you know, dictators and crazy people over there, if they found out that the ark was there, they would fucking take it. | ||
| Well, I think there's this aspect of if you look at from a biblical perspective, no one would be able to access it anyways because it would be protected, right? | ||
| That's what the Bible says. | ||
| It cannot be opened until the time is deemed correct. | ||
| Oh, Jesus. | ||
| Once the time to open the container, the mechanisms of lock systems will be found to be fairly simple. | ||
| Individuals opening the container by prying or striking are destroyed by the container's protectors. | ||
| Well, it's interesting as remember in the Bible always talks about how they had to be through the use of a power of a power unknown to us. | ||
| They melt you. | ||
| Remember? | ||
| Oh, yeah. | ||
| Well, so they had to, you know, go through this special process of being considered. | ||
| So, you know, you're in the process of being considered, you know, holy, basically to access it. | ||
| So, all that to say that there's something out there, right? | ||
| I think that obviously God's Real and this job has definitely, you know, put me in a position to where we're able to help get other truths out there, if you will. | ||
| And we need to get the truth of that thing out there. | ||
| We need to find that life. | ||
| If you're a director, Raj, you know, how much would it change if you found the actual Ark of the Covenant? | ||
| And you could explain a lot of things, like, look, if these Ethiopians have it, which Graham Hancock believes. | ||
| Allegedly they do. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Graham Hancock believes that they do. | ||
| He said that these guardians, they all get cataracts and they die of like radiation poisoning. | ||
| I mean, there's something to be said about the Ethiopian people as a whole. | ||
| And going back to the Ethiopian Orthodox text, actually when I first launched this task force, I actually went and I met with an Ethiopian Orthodox pastor, if you will, just to kind of see and explain and ask questions that I can't exactly go to the Smithsonian and ask. | ||
| And his response was interesting, especially from their perspective. | ||
| You have a lot of this aspect of, I think, religion that tries to be doom and gloom. | ||
| And then in the Ethiopian perspective, he's like, first of all, your timeline is wrong. | ||
| And I'm like, what do you mean by your timeline? | ||
| He's like, well, the biblical text. | ||
| in modern day Christianity, it's a little bit off, right? | ||
| So we use a completely separate, I think it's 364 days a year, and he's explaining all that. | ||
| And he's like, but even then, so, you know, we don't have the perspective of, you know, we're in the end of days, et cetera. | ||
| But the way his perspective just seemed very optimistic as opposed to pessimistic and filtering and controlling information. | ||
| All that. | ||
| She's probably not online. | ||
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| Yeah, he's not subjecting a new York post about that says that the viewer was identified with the target and didn't know what it was and then seeing the Ark of the Covenant after all the explanation they found. | ||
| Oh, well, that's a lot different. | ||
| So that whole thing at the end of it was what they were saying it was when they wrote it in that report. | ||
| It's just a bunch of words they're putting together and they're listening Pal Putoff talk about it. | ||
| Okay, well, that's much more interesting. | ||
| If he didn't know what he was looking for and he found something that looked like the Ark of the Covenant, that's pretty crazy. | ||
| They kind of like talk them on, right? | ||
| They'll like give them something and say like, walk us through. | ||
| I'm just doing Devil's Advocate because I have no skin in the game. | ||
| I don't know if it's real or not real. | ||
| I'm open to it. | ||
| I think there's something going on. | ||
| I think there's more some extra thing that's happening with human beings, the way we're all connected to each other that we don't really totally understand. | ||
| And I think the idea that you can access information that's not local, I don't think that's that weird. | ||
| I think that might be an emerging aspect of human consciousness or an aspect of human consciousness that's atrophied. | ||
| Or just an aspect of spirituality that we've previously forgotten because we're in such a digital age that kind of programs you into the rat race. | ||
| And I think people, the more that they're kind of like, you know, there has to be more to life than just like a nine to five and, you know, working for this aspect of materialism, like, don't get me wrong, I like, you know, a nice car and a clean house and all that. | ||
| But, you know, there's also this aspect of, you know, being a human. | ||
| And like, you know, if you have kids, I think that's like one of the things. | ||
| Like, you have a daughter, I have a son. | ||
| And it's like when you're a parent, it kind of like makes you realize, like, wow, there's this aspect of like love that I didn't know existed before. | ||
| And you can kind of really be there and help, you know, grow this next human and influence that person. | ||
| And it just kind of, the human experience is something that, you know, you can make it as special as you want. | ||
| And this aspect of, you know, us being able to have those little quantum breadcrumbs is what I like to call them. | ||
| Like, have you ever been talking about something and like, you'll go somewhere, hear something and there's like confirmation of what you've been talre like asking a question and all of a sudden it pops up, kind of there's the answer. | ||
| And I think that those little things just mean you're on the right path and doing what you're supposed to do in this bigger picture. | ||
| Yeah, well, that's a good way to live life if you believe that. | ||
| It's healthy, smart. | ||
| It's like a good strategy. | ||
| I wonder why some people seem to have, like, the idea of it being an emerging aspect of human consciousness, our ability to like sense things and know things that are going to happen or premonition. | ||
| Or know if someone's a liar or a weirdo, like instantly. | ||
| Those I always wonder if it is that or is it that we used to have that, like before language, that's all we had? | ||
| I think that before tech really evolved, there was a bigger aspect of spirituality that actually talks about that. | ||
| So like discernment in the Bible, you can talk about, you know, this aspect of being, people say like, oh, if someone has like really bad energy, you picking up on it. | ||
| There's something to that. | ||
| But I think that because, and it's really happened, I think in the last like forty years where people are kind of forgetting that. | ||
| But when you actually go back to, like, for example, we're talking just now about the Ark of the Covenant, the Ethiopian Orthodox texts and all this, there's more of that. | ||
| aspect of spirituality that I think has been removed from society. | ||
| I think it's actually taken away our ability to really respect one another and value human life. | ||
| And I think that, you know, from a political perspective, influences decisions. | ||
| Like you get really pro-war people. | ||
| Those people are usually not that spiritual and they really don't have a value for life in that aspect. | ||
| Yeah, no, that's definitely a real thing. | ||
| That's unfortunate. | ||
| That there's a and the fact that those are the type of people that always want to be in power. | ||
| They are, they're the worst type. | ||
| That's a, that's probably the most scary part of it. | ||
| I have, I actually had a really groundbreaking conversation. | ||
| So, like, the way I'll describe Congress is, you ever have, like, a job where eighty percent of it, ninety percent of it just, like, really eating shit. | ||
| And then, like, the ten percent is, like, really cool. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And it makes up for that, like, eighty, ninety percent that you're just, like, that's when I hosted Fear Factor. | ||
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| So, yeah, that aspect of, um, I think really exists in politics if you, like, actually care. | ||
| And I had a meeting recently where I was with two other members of Congress that were helping me with the JFK investigation. | ||
| And we actually met for the first time since 1990 with the ambassador to the Russian government. | ||
| And I bring that up because at the time of of the JFK assassination, the KGB had actually come forward with their own independent investigation and they actually gave it at Kennedy's funeral to US officials. | ||
| We never got those documents and it's my belief that the CIA actually destroyed that information and evidence because it would have confirmed what this the KGB and mind you at the time, JFK was actually in talks with the president of Russia at the time and his perspective is that he actually wanted to do a joint mission between the US government and the Russian government to the moon. | ||
| And there are aspects and divisions within the intelligence community. | ||
| You obviously saw the Cold War was happening. | ||
| They wanted war on Cuba. | ||
| They wanted war with Russia. | ||
| Kennedy who was not a communist, but that he was a communist sympathizer, and how dare he talk to these dirty communists. | ||
| I mean, that in itself would have given them any ammunition to turn a blind eye or at least not fully figure out who assassinated Kennedy. | ||
| But I bring that up to say that when you have these people in power, you can see a lot of it in regards to there's a summit on the fifteenth actually with President Trump and Vladimir Putin. | ||
| And I think the aspect of whenever you have peace and trade, it's way better than war for everyone involved, for the people of Ukraine, for Russia, for the American people. | ||
| And I think for the surrounding regions, like I recently came back from a meeting with government officials in Romania and Moldova. | ||
| And it didn't matter if and I actually met a real member of the Moldovan government who was a communist, like an outward communist. | ||
| And it didn't matter who I talked to, everyone wanted peace. | ||
| And then when we had met with the European Parliament and the EU, some of them wanted peace, but then the countries that had the shittiest economies, excuse my language, they were the ones that were advocating for war. | ||
| Well, you have a war based economy, it always helps your economy. | ||
| So if you have terrible policy perspectives, obviously you would advocate for something like that. | ||
| But it just goes to show that the people that are going through it, the people that are living it, that are directly impacted, no one would advocate for war. | ||
| And so in even just having this conversation, you know, a lot of people even, you know, two, two administration ago, maybe two administrations ago. | ||
| I think that if we had had that administration ago, maybe two administrations ago, probably would not have had that conversation. | ||
| But to be able to develop that dialogue, the end result of that meeting was the Russian government agreed to release their investigation on JFK that the previous Congressional Task Force in the nineties had tried to obtain from the Russian government, and they said no. | ||
| So they agreed to release that, and they'll be posting it publicly for the American people to go through later on this fall. | ||
| Have you seen it yet? | ||
| I haven't. | ||
| So I'll be seeing at the same time everyone else's. | ||
| What do you think is in there, if you had a guess? | ||
| So when I was talking to the ambassador, he's actually a history buff too. | ||
| Oswald was actually in Russia had made a psychological profile because they thought, you know, they're like, is this guy part of American intelligence? | ||
| Like, what's his story? | ||
| And they thought he was basically nuts. | ||
| And apparently he had tried to go hunting when he was out there and they were observing him and he couldn't shoot for shit. | ||
| So they're like, you know, he didn't meet our psychological profile. | ||
| Then he shows up at the Russian embassy in Mexico City with a gun. | ||
| And they're like, what the hell is this like crazy guy showing up at them? | ||
| Like, what's going on? | ||
| And then we find out simultaneously as this is all happening that the CIA kudos to Director Radcliffe had actually released something called the Joanidis file and George Joanidis was actually. | ||
| He's basically our version of James Bond, but more corrupt. | ||
| And he was basically observing Oswald. | ||
| He had lied to Congress. | ||
| This was all in his file. | ||
| He was then the CIA liaison to Congress during the investigations, stonewalled their investigations, was later awarded something from the CIA. | ||
| So you have the CIA admitting that they lied to Congress, covered up the assassination attempt or covered up the investigations. | ||
| We had admissions from the Warren Commission, people that had been subject to the Warren Commission's investigations saying that the Warren Commission engaged in witness intimidation. | ||
| They omitted evidence. | ||
| The single bullet theory never exists. | ||
| The CIA admits that Lee Harvey Oswald was not a lone shooter. | ||
| People ask, well, does this mean that you'll ever get the name of who killed him? | ||
| No, because I don't think this CIA was like, kill JFK on this day and use this gun and have this person assigned. | ||
| But there was evidence of multiple shooters, for sure. | ||
| Well, there must have been multiple shooters. | ||
| There's there's injuries, like one of them was the front of his neck. | ||
| We had testimony to that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And actually what's interesting is when we first launched the task force, we had left-leaning news outlets that were trying to write hit pieces saying that I was basically launching a conspiracy theory task force. | ||
| And they had to print the truth weeks ago. | ||
| You can actually print it. | ||
| What is it about people that don't want to believe that some conspiracies are real? | ||
| Is it a comfort thing? | ||
| Is it you think you're going to erode trust in the government? | ||
| Is it you just have such a rigid worldview and in your mind that there's always been Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, that's what happened, and because of that, anything that challenges your belief system, you fight against? | ||
| Well, specifically to JFK, for decades, the intelligence agencies were influencing what the print and press was doing. | ||
| 100%. | ||
| And Jerry Geraldo Rivera, you know, when Dick Gregory brought that film on the Geraldo Rivera show, and you got to see this the Zapruder film and you got to see what looks like a shot that makes his head go back and to the left. | ||
| Yeah, and then the Zapruder film. | ||
| Which would indicate he got shot from the front. | ||
| I think he got shot multiple times by multiple shooters from multiple different directions. | ||
| And I don't think necessarily Lee Harvey Oswald wasn't in on it. | ||
| Well, and here's the problem. | ||
| People say, Oh, Lee Harvey Oswald couldn't shoot. | ||
| You don't have to be that good with a rifle to be, you're on a ledge, so you have a secure rest. | ||
| If your rifle sighted in and they said his scope was off, but that doesn't mean shit. | ||
| Because you could just drop your scope and it's off. | ||
| Like all you have to do is take your rifle off that ledge, drop it on the groundund and now that scope is off. | ||
| You never drop your gun like that. | ||
| And if you do, You can knock your scope off. | ||
| Well, there's multiple problems though, because the Warren Commission actually never even put in their report, right? | ||
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| My point is that it wasn't a far shot. | ||
| It was like, what was it, 140 yards from the book depository with a scope? | ||
| Yeah, and it should be a rifle with a rest. | ||
| No, you could kill a guy like that and he could have been the shooter. | ||
| He could have been one of the shooters. | ||
| But I think there's too much witness testimony. | ||
| There's too much evidence. | ||
| There's too much. | ||
| The whole idea of the magic bullet theory was just because they had to account for all the wounds in the bodies with just three bullets. | ||
| And they found a guy who got hit in the the overpass, in the underpass or rather, he got hit with the ricochet. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So now they knew that bullet couldn't have hit Kennedy or Connolly. | ||
| So how do you attribute all these wounds to two different guys from multiple gunshots to a single bullet? | ||
| It's a magic bullet, don't you know? | ||
| You have to find this bullet that fucking for sure didn't hit any bones, and there's more fragments in Connolly's wrist than there were missing from the bullet. | ||
| The bullet looks almost pristine. | ||
| It looks like they shot it through feathers or they shot it into water, which is what they do when they do ballistics tests on rifles. | ||
| Well, what's interesting is is the Warren Commission did omit multiple female witnesses who were actually at the book depository that day that actually stated. | ||
| that they had never witnessed Oswald actually in the location or going down the back of the book depository. | ||
| So that could be passed. | ||
| It's possible that he could have snuck past them. | ||
| There was a lot of chaos. | ||
| You hear gunshots, the president shot. | ||
| People don't always think straight when things are going nutsy. | ||
| People have a terrible memory right after traumatic events. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Like, yes and no. | ||
| Like he might have been there or he might not have been there. | ||
| He might have shot at Kennedy or he might not have shot at Kennedy. | ||
| But for sure, he was some sort of government operative. | ||
| We were sure he was travelling back and forth from Russia. | ||
| He married a Russian citizen. | ||
| There was a lot of weird things. | ||
| He was under surveillance by the CIA. | ||
| So there's a lot there. | ||
| However, I will say this, what the official narrative was, we now know is BS, right? | ||
| And that was what I thought from the beginning. | ||
| Yeah, but a lot of the American people did. | ||
| But to have their own government say, No, that's not true, to gaslight them and to push this narrative of, If you question it, you're wrong, you're crazy. | ||
| That in itself, I think, when you're talking about, like, why do the American people not trust their government? | ||
| It's really this fracture that starts around the Kennedy era and time frame. | ||
| And you can see then that distrust kind of evolves. | ||
| But why do you go back to your original question, why do people refuse to kind of question conspiracy theory? | ||
| Maybe there's some more comfortable for people from a psychological perspective to live in this comfort zone that their government might not do something like that. | ||
| Right. | ||
| Or might not try to cover up something like that because that's just an easy way of life. | ||
| But look, it's too scary. | ||
| It's too scary. | ||
| But the fact is, look, I've traveled a lot. | ||
| I've dealt with a lot of world leaders. | ||
| We are still the greatest country in the world. | ||
| Make no excuse about that. | ||
| But it doesn't mean that we can't call out and hold our own government and officials accountable. | ||
| And so that's kind of what I've guessed my mission has been, this Congress, and what I hope it will continue to be. | ||
| But I'm not trying to do this for like even the next ten years. | ||
| So for someone like me, you know, people are like, oh, initially, you're going to ruin your political careerical career talking about this. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| Why would you even want to do that? | ||
| And then, you know, they're seeing all these big wins coming out in regards to transparency. | ||
| And I will say, had it not been for the secretaries that have been appointed by this administration, this wouldn't have happened. | ||
| Because under President Biden, he actually also tried to declassify things pertaining to JFK, and the National Archives never released it. | ||
| And so in addition to that, that's not a good sign. | ||
| None of that stuff is a good sign. | ||
| Like, if you want trust from the American people, do you release information? | ||
| If you want us to distrust you, you hide everything. | ||
| And you're hiding everything on one of the most important events in human history. | ||
| They were up until recently. | ||
| And we're still documents that the JFK community, because mind you, I'm actually working with his name is Jefferson Morley. | ||
| He is not a Republican. | ||
| He's a Bernie Sanders Democrat. | ||
| But on this issue, we're working great together. | ||
| And he's actually been helping me. | ||
| And he's like, look, I've been waiting for this stuff for like thirty years. | ||
| This is a huge bipartisan. | ||
| Yeah, it's super bipartisan. | ||
| It's something we can all get together. | ||
| That and you both, what's the one thing that's the Republicans both completely agree on, like, tell us what's up. | ||
| Tell us what's up. | ||
| Who killed him? | ||
| And are they real? | ||
| Those are two giant questions that we all have. | ||
| I think they're real. | ||
| The other part is still outstanding. | ||
| But hopefully when the documents are released from the Russian government later. | ||
| this autumn that might be able to provide a full picture. | ||
| Granted, I'm going to take it with a great deal of salt because it's still, you know, it was written by the KGB. | ||
| But at the end of the day, we have a good mosaic that's been put together with at least the documents that have been released with this administration. | ||
| And for any outstanding documents, I actually have a team assigned to me from the CIA that is actually helping me to chase down these documents. | ||
| And I've already had some interesting experiences, like not creepy, but for example, after President Trump signed the executive order and Radcliffe has been super helpful, we actually were made aware of this allegedly. | ||
| There had been a document that was at the CIA that was a report from the inspector general that had implicated the CIA allegedly in the assassination of JFK. | ||
| So I'm following up on this lead and trying to find this report. | ||
| And the archives is like, we don't have any documentation of this. | ||
| The CI says they don't have any documentation. | ||
| And they've been good with us so far. | ||
| So I go to the archives because they're like, we found this weird bag though. | ||
| And it's in the skiff. | ||
| And it's been here for five years. | ||
| And it was left by our former advocate for the archives. | ||
| And so we don't know what's in it. | ||
| And I was like, well, go open it. | ||
| They're like, well, we don't have the key. | ||
| And it's in a vault. | ||
| And I said, well, I'm coming over. | ||
| So I drive over, literally, like put myself in the car. | ||
| I get in the car and I go over to the National Archives. | ||
| We go into the skiff. | ||
| I pull out this bag and I'm like, does anyone have scissors? | ||
| And we like, cut open this little folder. | ||
| And there's a CD-ROM in it. | ||
| And this has again been declassifiedfied again now so I can talk about it. | ||
| But there was this CD-ROM of a ton of wires from the State Department. | ||
| Some of the wires were pertaining to the Kennedy family, and it was actually a WikiLeaks document. | ||
| And so I think the reason why it was kept in the archives is because you're not actually supposed to have these documents on government computers, WikiLeaks obviously. | ||
| What happened to that? | ||
| But here I was like cutting it out of a bag in the National Archives. | ||
| That makes sense that you would have the most top secret documents burned on CD-ROMs. | ||
| That way no one could ever get access to it by hacking into your computer. | ||
| To this day, I don't even know who left the CD-ROM. | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| There's some other stuff in that that I don't need to get into, but why don't you need to get into it? | ||
| Because I won't get in trouble. | ||
| But the stuff that was on there was interesting. | ||
| And I think I saw recently Tulsi had actually talked about some of the State Department wires that had been found that, and I think these are the same ones that had talked about the assassination of RFK. | ||
| There were wires going up from the State Department prior to his assassination, which is interesting. | ||
| So our next investigation, so we've done, we'll talk about it. | ||
| What do you mean by that? | ||
| Like, what were, how did they specifically discuss it? | ||
| Well, that's I haven't seen the actual wires themselves yet, but what that would imply is that the State Department knew about the assassination before it took place. | ||
| And that was something she talked about. | ||
| Did you get into the MKUltra stuff at all with Jolly West? | ||
| So I look at that in my free time, but that's not the competence of the task force. | ||
| But there's stuff that you can, again, ci dot gov slash reading room, super creepy. | ||
| I did find a document on the archive's website that actually ties the initial phases of the MKUltra program to Operation Paperclip. | ||
| Oh boy. | ||
| Interesting. | ||
| And so it makes sense, right? | ||
| And it's there, and I'm I'm reading this to my husband. | ||
| Because for sure the Nazis were experimenting on drugs with people. | ||
| They were doing a lot of bad stuff. | ||
| Oh, they were doing a lot of horrible stuff. | ||
| But for sure they were experimenting on their soldiers. | ||
| and on prisoners and they're experimenting on all kinds of people. | ||
| Crazy stuff. | ||
| Yeah, and if we took some of that and applied it, the Jack Ruby connection to it is that Jolly West went to visit Jack Ruby after he shot Lee Harvey Oswald. | ||
| And Jack Ruby was like, pretty rational before that, and then after Jolly West leaves, he's like freaking out, seeing things that aren't there. | ||
| I think he said something about Jews burned, he could see Jews burning alive. | ||
| It's like a psychosis state. | ||
| Full on, lost it. | ||
| Most likely got dosed the fuck with acid. | ||
| Most likely Jolly West West just hit him with a fucking jump. | ||
| That's a terrible way to go. | ||
| Shot glass of acid. | ||
| It doesn't, like, he went so far off the deep end. | ||
| Then he died later. | ||
| I think he died a few years later of cancer. | ||
| But I think he completely lost his mind after Jolly West visited him. | ||
| And Jolly West was involved with the Manson family thing. | ||
| He was involved with Operation Midnight Climax, where they had brothels. | ||
| The CIA was running brothels. | ||
| And they would get these Johns to come in with the prostitutes. | ||
| And the prostitutes would give them acid. | ||
| And they didn't know it. | ||
| And so they were sitting there and there were two way mirrors. | ||
| And they were filming them. | ||
| Why these guys were charged? | ||
| Well, for chantage, for observation. | ||
| They knew these people were never going to say, Hey, you did that to me. | ||
| You know, look what the government did. | ||
| Dosed me up with acid. | ||
| Because they're not going to admit they went to a bordel. | ||
| Well, they said. | ||
| So you have the perfect group of people to victimize and just try things on. | ||
| Well, and they got in trouble for it too. | ||
| Like the CIA had to make payments, they were getting sued for it, and then when all this did flush out, I mean, you know, it's always, actually, well, the Freedom of Information Act was the only, and then they found a bunch of documents. | ||
| They found documents that were, I forget who found, I forget, Tom O'Neill, who wrote the book Chaos, goes into great detail about this. | ||
| Well, it's interesting to see. | ||
| It's all about the Manson family and MKUltra. | ||
| It's a fantastic book. | ||
| Well, even just this conversation right now, there's such a stigma that exists around it because it's such a spooky topic. | ||
| And so it's like, you don't want to look stupid. | ||
| You don't want to look stupid. | ||
| And so look, anyone watching this can go look at this information, go to cia dot gov slash reading room and know it's not going to be like a phishing website that's going to steal your information. | ||
| But like, you can find I'm sure it is. | ||
| The CIA is like, where are you accessing? | ||
| But, you know, it's it's always been one of those things and, you know, if people ask me, I'm just very transparent about it. | ||
| And I will say something that started with a stigma of being, you know, this conspiracy theory investigation wasting taxpayer dollars has been, arguably, one of the coolest task force in Congress, I think. | ||
| And we have a lot of lot of good people that are behind it. | ||
| I think the tide is turning on that kind of thinking that these conspiracy theories are silly to pursue. | ||
| Like some of them, yeah. | ||
| Some of them are silly to pursue. | ||
| Some are crazy, but some are true. | ||
| But that doesn't mean that some are true. | ||
| Also, there's a time honored tactic of taking, like, if I was an intelligence community, and I'm not accusing anyone of doing this, but if I was an intelligence community, and I had some truth that was very inconvenient to a narrative, and I wanted to label that truth as being a preposterous conspiracy theory, I'd add a bunch of cookie shit to it. | ||
| Or have disinformation campaigns. | ||
| Or dole it out to the nuttiest people on the internet. | ||
| Dole it out to the craziest people. | ||
| You know, this guy's got a drinking problem. | ||
| He's got a conspiracy theory website. | ||
| Or take a little and spin it. | ||
| Give it to him. | ||
| Give it to him and tell him you're helping him out. | ||
| You're going to give him some insight. | ||
| Get him to spread a bunch of cookie stuff so that when that stuff gets desproved, the other thing's attached to it so the other thing looks stupid too. | ||
| We've had what I would do. | ||
| Yeah, we've had our fill. | ||
| Like the one thing I wanted to do when I first got the task force is open a SCIFF to any person who had a clearance to come brief us on what they knew about UAPs. | ||
| And I can tell you that we've now had the first conversation like when the door closes and you're like, oh boy, I'm going tove reached out to some of the biggest names in UFO lore, okay? | ||
| And they all got skiff flu. | ||
| And we call it skiff flu, meaning like the day that the skiff was open that we reserved for. | ||
| We're like, we're here. | ||
| Like, come on, brief us. | ||
| They get sick or they don't recover and come back. | ||
| They didn't recover and then they just don't talk to us anymore. | ||
| So they ghost you? | ||
| They ghost us. | ||
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| So I'm like, well, if you're not going to tell me the skiff, then you're full of crap. | ||
| Or you're scared for your life because you're just a scientist who doesn't, maybe they got threatened. | ||
| Maybe someone let them know that maybe someone hung something on their door in the middle of the night. | ||
| But if people say they're going to go tell us in a skiff and then they don't show up, it's a problem. | ||
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| So they've already gone public. | ||
| But maybe those people don't feel like the government's going to protect them. | ||
| That is one of the biggest things that we've had people bring up is that you're a whistleblower, but whistleblower protections only go so far and you can't do anything for my physical safety. | ||
| And some of them do allege that there's these actual physical concerns. | ||
| We actually had someone that we wanted to bring in to testify because our next hearing on UAP is going to be, I believe it's next month. | ||
| And the individual that was actually told to us by David Grosh is actually a former combat controller. | ||
| And so my husband, Air Force special operator, combat control. | ||
| But so we knew the guy via some friends. | ||
| So we knew that the guy wasn't nuts or crazy. | ||
| And we talked to him and he didn't want to. | ||
| come in. | ||
| He wanted nothing to do with it. | ||
| It was like, I'm not touching this. | ||
| And so, you know, that stuff like that happens. | ||
| Well, also, you put those folks on TV, right? | ||
| Well, we don't have to. | ||
| We can do private, but if we testify. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| If it comes time where they have to testify. | ||
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| And there's a lot of time in between people finding out that this guy came and told you guys what's up to testify. | ||
| Don't panic out our witnesses, Judy. | ||
| But that's the problem. | ||
| This is why I'm going to testify. | ||
| What I was talking about is what is being advocated in the documentary that to me makes perfect sense is mass amnesty. | ||
| Now here's the bad part. | ||
| For sure, you're dealing with enormous sums of money. | ||
| And I'm sure people got really rich from that. | ||
| And I'm sure it's super illegal, if it's real. | ||
| With the back engineering potential. | ||
| Yeah, I mean, and also the competitive advantage you would give Company A if this company gets access to a down craft that can traverse space and time, that can move through the universe instantaneously, that utilizes an unknown element, that has some unknown process of defying gravity. | ||
| It's utilizing no interior mechanisms of control. | ||
| Everything is done with the mind of the pilot. | ||
| If this is the truth, if this is what they're saying, and these are the kind of things they find, that getting to a contractor would be a massive advantage over the other contractor that also should be on equal stand with the government, right? | ||
| They both make jets, they both make whatever it is. | ||
| So it's like, what do you do? | ||
| Do you divvy up your spaceships in between these folks? | ||
| Like, are they the only ones who get to know it? | ||
| And then how do private contractors, contractors, how are they the gatekeepers of the most important information in the world, if it's true? | ||
| Well, so, and that brings us to what happened at Eglin Air Force Base. | ||
| So in a nutshell, we had been told by so Representative Gates had come forward and said that he had two or two or three pilots had to contact him saying that the Air Force was covering up information regarding UAP activity in the panel and he wanted us to go with him to investigate. | ||
| So we show up at Eglin Air Force Base, we're met by the base commander. | ||
| Previous to us even showing up in this congressional delegation to investigate, the Pentagon had tried to cancel the meeting. | ||
| And you can't. | ||
| So this was under the last administration. | ||
| So you can't just cancel a meeting and say, you can't come to the base. | ||
| That doesn't work. | ||
| So Gates actually was on House Armed Services at the time that oversees the US military. | ||
| And so Gates got the chairman involved, calls back onto the Pentagon, gets this meeting on the books. | ||
| And we told them specifically, we want to see have the pilots that saw these aircraft, whatever they are, or these spacecraft, we want to have briefings from them. | ||
| In a nutshell, we get to Eglin Air Force Base. | ||
| They keep BSSing us about the Chinese spy balloon. | ||
| That's not what we were there to see. | ||
| And ultimately, we were in the Skiff. | ||
| We got into a verbal disagreement with the base commander at the time who was denying us access to the pilots and to the information and said that we didn't have the authorization. | ||
| In the Skiff, there was many members of the intelligence community. | ||
| We then go back up to the conference room and proceed to, again, basically have it out with this commander and Representative Burchett said, you know, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. | ||
| You choose a movie. | ||
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| Kind of, but at the time, like, you know, people use a movie with. | ||
| Yeah, the easy way or the hard way. | ||
| And if it's the hard way, you're going to have, you know, Representative Gates and Luna in DC questioning you. | ||
| So I suggest you do it the easy way. | ||
| So he actually in the middle of the meeting, we were kind of holding his feet to the fire on it. | ||
| He kind of got nervous as we were talking to him. | ||
| And he, I kid you not, he goes, you know, they're going to like that. | ||
| I'm not going to let you see this. | ||
| So he kind of was thinking out loud, but didn't realize that he was basically saying it. | ||
| And then, maybe five minutes later, this tech sergeant comes in and says, Oh, the base commander has been authorized to go and leave to Georgia. | ||
| He won't come back. | ||
| And I'm sitting there looking at Gates and Burgett. | ||
| I'm like, he just left, like, in the middle of a congressional delegation, like, that's never happened. | ||
| If I said it out loud, they would be happy that I'm not telling you? | ||
| Yeah, like verbally articulated. | ||
| Gates was there. | ||
| My husband was there. | ||
| But he's just like, if that guy's he's in getting in trouble. | ||
| He's in, he might be really in trouble. | ||
| But here's the problem. | ||
| He can't, who, even if it was someone at this, like the Secretary of Defense, right? | ||
| Because at the time, this got pretty high level. | ||
| I'm not saying it's not illegal. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He still, at the end of the day, you're in the military, how our government functions is the military does not decide what the civilian sector and what representatives can and cannot see. | ||
| It's not supposed to function like that. | ||
| So he got up and left. | ||
| Like, I've never seen this happen. | ||
| I was in the military. | ||
| I've never seen, like, in the middle of a congressional delegation, these are big deals. | ||
| You just get up and go and leave to Georgia and you just don't come back like in the middle of the meeting? | ||
| It never happens. | ||
| Where in what state were you in the time? | ||
| We were in Florida. | ||
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He just like drove to Georgia, like, what the hell are you doing, Georgia, in the middle of a congressional delegation? | |
| Go and fish in. | ||
| See ya. | ||
| And then his second in command comes in and they manage to get one pilot to come down and brief us. | ||
| And what I will tell you is, I will say it, Representative Gates has gone off record, he actually did as soon as he left office that we've seen stuff that I don't believe was created by mankind. | ||
| So you can't tell us what you saw, but I'm going to let you infer. | ||
| Infer. | ||
| See, this is the problem that I have with all this stuff. | ||
| Is you should be able, I should be able to tell you without losing my clearance. | ||
| Well, not just that, that people that have that information should give that information to the general public. | ||
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Correct. | |
| And stop treating us like you're smarter than us and that you can handle it. | ||
| We can't, that's silly. | ||
| That's why we have to declassify, that's why. | ||
| Do you have Hal Putoff stuff? | ||
| No. | ||
| It's okay, Hal Putoff, during the Bush administration, was assigned, he was one of many scientists, and this is also in the age of disclosure. | ||
| He was one of many scientists that was assigned to put a numerical value to pros and cons of UFO disclosure. | ||
| So they said to him, we have a crashed UFO that we have been back engineering and we want to release information to society to let people know that UFOs are real and that there is something else out there that's not us that's much more intelligent than we are so they have this list of pros and cons banking religion societal structure you know everything everything on one side and then the pros like you know whatever the positive | ||
| aspects of it would be and every single scientist said that the cons outweighed the pros and he said I would have loved to have had disclosure but this was just what they asked me to do they asked me to compile numbers and to do it in a way that's super objective. | ||
| And he said, look, if I'm doing my job, this is where I think it would completely wreck our government, completely wreck any idea that the people that are in charge of us have any position of authority when there's something that can go a hundred million times faster than we think is physically possible through the universe, appear out of nowhere, stop all of our nuclear programs, shut down bases, do weird shit. | ||
| But don't you think that's where kind of it's been interesting because society has moved away from this aspect of like having a spiritual grounding and even a spiritual grounding and even believing. | ||
| And like most people today, I think when you talk about praying, even that whole concept is kind of just like, oh, you know, they're just and I feel like that thing's kind of papooed. | ||
| But if you have a grounding in that and going back to what I was saying earlier, I think that that's not like I don't think that society would do that. | ||
| Given I'm not a scientist, I'm not running numbers, but just based on how we've kind of been evolving with access to information and kind of the questions, the discussions that have been happening, not just here, but I think internationally, I just think a lot is changing. | ||
| Now to say that we were, you know, and I've heard some wild theories, like people think that, you know, humanity was seeded by UFOs, and I don't I don't agree with that theory. | ||
| I'm going to address it. | ||
| It's a fun one. | ||
| It's an interesting theory. | ||
| If you found out it was true, would you tell everyone? | ||
| I mean, I'd be transparent about it, but I just like, don't personally believe it. | ||
| But would you believe it if you found out that was the information that the government had? | ||
| Well, I'd put it out there because that's what I'd put out there. | ||
| Right, but what would that do for your belief system? | ||
| That would suck. | ||
| But would it suck? | ||
| Maybe that's what's confusing about the Bible. | ||
| Maybe what's confusing is that it was an oral tradition for hundreds, if not a thousand years, before it was ever written down, right? | ||
| Well, I think that it depends on what bookok you're talking about, right? | ||
| So let's look at the Old Testament. | ||
| If you go back to the oldest works of the Bible, weren't most of those stories handed down generation after generation and then eventually written into texts? | ||
| Well, some of them are written by prophets and then, but Enoch is apparently supposed to be old even the time of Genesis and Talk. | ||
| The nuttiest one is Ezekiel. | ||
| I'm telling you, Enoch is even crazier than Ezekiel. | ||
| Oh, I've read I just don't Did you find anything about whether or not Enoch is controversial? | ||
| You can look up look up the fourth century. | ||
| It was discruded as, well, I guess since the fifth century it was in Kanaan. | ||
| Fifth century. | ||
| Why was it excluded? | ||
| It says the Jewish scribes or priests didn't believe the rabbis didn't believe it was canon. | ||
| So it's considered as Scripture. | ||
| But what's interesting is that even if that's the case, though, you have the Ethioan Orthodox Church that actually there are Ethiopian Jews. | ||
| And that's considered the most pure form of the Bible. | ||
| So, like, you actually have a division of like the Ethiopian Jewish class that actually recognized Enoch. | ||
| How strange is it that some rabbis five hundred years ago made a call? | ||
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But that's what I'm saying is like you can't you can't discredit it because it's kind of weird. | |
| But you can't discredit it because, again, like when you have people removing books. | ||
| I just think, look, and I'm not telling people what to believe, I'm just saying you should take a look at it. | ||
| Oh, here it is. | ||
| The main reason for the Jewish rejection of the book is that it is inconsistent with the teachings of the Torah. | ||
| From the standpoint of rabbinic how do you say that? | ||
| Rabbinic. | ||
| Rabbinic. | ||
| Rabbinic Judaism, sorry. | ||
| The book is considered to be heretical. | ||
| Another reason for the exclusion of the text might be the textual nature of several early sections of the book that make use of material from the Torah. | ||
| For example, Enoch is a mid rash of Deuteronomy 33. | ||
| The context, particularly detailed descriptions of fallen angels, would also be reason for rejection from the Hebrew canon at this period. | ||
| As is illustrated by the comments of Tripho the Jew when debating Justin Martyr on this subject, the utterances of God are holy, but your expositions are mere contrivances, contrivances as is plain from what has been explained by you, nay, even blasphemous, for you assert that angels sinned and revolted from God. | ||
| So it's a it seems like some people made a decision that something shouldn't be in there. | ||
| Yeah, but that's the thing, is it's a disagreement in religion and perspective, but they should have still not removed it. | ||
| And so it's interesting because then you have, you know, the evolution of what the King James Bible is. | ||
| We all know that story. | ||
| He wanted to get remarried. | ||
| They rewrote it. | ||
| But you even have the Catholic Bible that has it's what happened. | ||
| Right. | ||
| You have the Catholic Bible that had books that were taken out. | ||
| And then we have the King James. | ||
| So I'm not saying that, you know, if you read the King James, you're not getting, you don't have access to God. | ||
| That's all I'm saying. | ||
| But I am saying that there is a bigger picture here that we need to discuss. | ||
| And I think there's always a problem when people get involved. | ||
| And when people get involved in making decisions that this could be real and this could not be. | ||
| The problem is like all these years later, you're dealing with the repercussions of that. | ||
| Like imagine a world in which if Enoch was left in the Bible. | ||
| And people were like, wait, what happened? | ||
| Like, explain the nuttiness of the book of Enoch to people. | ||
| Well, it's okay. | ||
| So if you read it, it talks about the fall of angels, thus creating really the precursor of civilization that led to the first flood. | ||
| I think that when you even go into potentially the technology that was given to mankind by these angels, it talks about the hidden beliefs and theories in astronomy, et cetera, metal workings, all of it. | ||
| But it really does explain, you know, you were talking about earlier how you have a lot of these religions around the world that kind of say the OG text that leads to those stories that we're hearing from many religions around the world. | ||
| To talk about angels mixing with mankind and then seeding a super essentially race of humans that essentially were responsible for basically damaging mankind to the flood. | ||
| I mean, you hear about stuff in Greek and Roman mythology, people who had these super crazy powers, and you talk about it out loud and it sounds crazy, but that's what the book says. | ||
| And then the fact that it was taken out and then it's papoooed, yet you have one of the oldest religions in the world via the Ethiopians that actually still have it. | ||
| You have the Catholic Church that that has books that are missing out of the King James version. | ||
| I'm just saying that when you read it, you should read it and decide for yourself. | ||
| Don't listen to what I'm saying, don't listen to what you're saying, but truly give it a chance and see what you have to say. | ||
| And then you're going back to this whole concept of if you have this information pertaining to UAPs, whatever they might be, the origins. | ||
| I mean, if you have an understanding of what Enoch was talking about, it kind of makes sense. | ||
| Well, I go back to my thoughts on all this stuff. | ||
| It's like very few people could even read back then. | ||
| Very few people could write, right? | ||
| So you're not going to write. | ||
| You're probably going to try try to capture a truth. | ||
| You're probably not writing necessarily to deceive people and make up a story. | ||
| So the question is with all this stuff is like what was the original truth that they were trying to write down and how much of it is getting distorted by translations from ancient Hebrew to Latin to Aramic to Aramic. | ||
| Yeah, like how much of it is and is it possible to even understand what they're saying without understanding the language? | ||
| And my friend Rick Strassman, he's a very fascinating guy, brilliant guy. | ||
| One of the things that he did is he taught himself ancient Hebrew so he could read the Bible in ancient Hebrew. | ||
| It took him sixteen years. | ||
| But he did it because he's like, I want to know it in that language. | ||
| Direct I mean, that's smart because there's always an aspect of translation where you lose, you lose implications. | ||
| If you're playing the phone game, you want to be second. | ||
| You don't want to be fifteenth. | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| Right? | ||
| And whoever was writing it down the earliest, that's probably, you're closer to their depictions of what that truth is than after King James starts fucking around with it and all that stuff. | ||
| What a new wife. | ||
| She's got to remove her sister. | ||
| New people start getting involved. | ||
| But boy, when you go to the really old stuff, you know, the really old stuff is very strange. | ||
| The Orthodox I'm telling you, the Ethiopian Orthodox Bible is very strange. | ||
| I actually had a staffer that went to Ethiopia. | ||
| She was on a church trip and she actually brought me back a copy and she's like, you can translate it via Google Translations, so kudos to modern day technology. | ||
| So I have it in my office. | ||
| And actually when I did my swearing in, I actually did my swearing in on the Ethiopian Orthodox Bible. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| It's direct translation. | ||
| That's kind of crazy. | ||
| It's, it's, you know, I would wonder what the impact to all these religions would be if we had definitive proof that we're not alone. | ||
| Like, if there was an introduction, like some sort of an event where they decided, look, this government is too secretive with all this information. | ||
| You're holding back the understanding of these intelligent life forms that they are not the apex of this planet, nor are they anywhere close to the peak of the intelligence that's available out there in the universe. | ||
| Just let me show you real quick, and then what does everybody do now? | ||
| Like, what happens to the Mormons? | ||
| Like, what's going to happen to them? | ||
| I think that brings us back to the square one. | ||
| So, by the way, I'm by no means saying that, you know, aliens are God. | ||
| That's not what I'm saying. | ||
| No, no. | ||
| But I think that brings us back to the fundamental question on, do you believe that God exists? | ||
| Because if you do, then you realize that our freedom, you know, the freedom of choice is not a man given right, but a God given right. | ||
| And I think that goes back to the fundamental principles of what we believe in true representation. | ||
| So if you believe that God is real, God is powerful, then it shouldn't be a king or a man that you're looking to, but to God for divine inspiration and to make your life decisions. | ||
| That's ultimately what freedom of choice is. | ||
| But I think even the Catholic Church has recognized the idea that if there is intelligent life somewhere else, it doesn't mean that God didn't create it. | ||
| Well, that's true. | ||
| I think it's a good idea. | ||
| Maybe God just didn't tell you about the neighbors. | ||
| Well, it does say in Enoch, and then also to, I think, in Genesis, that the stars cried out. | ||
| And so if you're looking, well, a star, if it's not, you know, what does it mean by stars cried out? | ||
| And then Enoch actually alludes to stars in certain capacities being potentially angels. | ||
| Now, I'm not saying like, and this is kind of interesting because, you know, I have this aspect of my task force, what we've been investigating, but then I have, you know, my personal beliefs and, you know, my religious beliefs. | ||
| And what I'm telling you is that in my position officially, I've seen men pervert information to get what they want. | ||
| So it's not unlikely that an entire, you know, very secret, very truthful text was omitted in an effort to control population and to insert yourself between an individual's relationship between them directly and God. | ||
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And I think that, you know, well, especially if it doesn't agree with your interpretation of God. | |
| Whatever. | ||
| I mean, and this is what the issue with these rabbis, right? | ||
| Well, I mean, if you're having people determine any information, yes, you should not be able to do that. | ||
| Just the same thing as the UFO stuff. | ||
| The UFO should be, no one should be the gatekeeper of information. | ||
| Exactly, and hence the transparency on the information. | ||
| Especially something that's, it should be for all of us. | ||
| This is nuts. | ||
| I think we're probably going to be responsible for like the book of Enoch's sales probably increasing on Amazon. | ||
| Well, I'm going to buy it. | ||
| I'm going to buy it.. | ||
| I need to read it now. | ||
| You're trying to do it. | ||
| Well, I wish I could I mean, I'm sure there's some interpretations of the Dead Sea Scrolls that I could sludge through. | ||
| But the thing about it is, I'd really love to be able to read it in Aramaic. | ||
| I really wish I could read Aramaic. | ||
| I just don't have the fucking time to do that. | ||
| If I did. | ||
| You could go on, you should see if there's, like, an audible source material. | ||
| Oh, I'm sure there is. | ||
| But what I'm saying is, I really like the Strassman idea of learning ancient Hebrew to be able to read the source material. | ||
| That's where it gets really interesting. | ||
| Because, like, what were these people trying to write about? | ||
| And if these people like Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson are correct and these folks that believe in the younger dryest impact theory, you know, the Bible was written a couple couple of thousand years ago. | ||
| These people that are talking about the Younger Dryas impact theory are talking about a cataclysmic event that wiped out advanced civilization eleven thousand eight hundred years ago. | ||
| Well, Plato talks about it, hearing it from Egyptian teachers, and then going back to the Atlantean civilization, and it was written. | ||
| My point is, what was their Bible? | ||
| Well, so. | ||
| You know what I mean? | ||
| Like, if you can get back to eleven thousand eight hundred years ago and read what they thought went down, because I think that's probably where the oral traditions come from. | ||
| The oral traditions come from the complete collapse of society, rebuild over time, takes forever., and then a re-understanding of what you know to be true about the origin of man and the birth of the universe and why we're here. | ||
| And then you have to figure out what Jesus is. | ||
| Well, so I actually, when I was in my early twenties, I actually went to Egypt to see the megalithic structures there, and then I went to Turkey to see the Sumerian inscriptions and carvings and what they thought the ancient Sumerian gods were, the Anunnaki, all that. | ||
| What's interesting is in Enoch, it actually has reference to the Anunnaki, but a different, I think it's like Anu is like the term, the root term that's used for it. | ||
| Have you read the Zacharias Hitchens? | ||
| Have you read the Zacharias Hitch and stuff? | ||
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| Do you know of it? | ||
| I have heard of it, yeah. | ||
| Yeah, that's the most fun. | ||
| Yeah, well, I will say with all of that going back to if you read Enoch and then follow about the fall of mankind and the angels with, you know, and this is Christian theology, right? | ||
| So like angels came down, rebelled against God, interbreed with humankind. | ||
| That would be, I think, a good starting point for what potentially the Anunnaki were. | ||
| Yeah, God probably didn't like that they were coming around and taking the ancient hominids and juicing them up. | ||
| Juicing them up, make them challenge. | ||
| That's approved. | ||
| Heaven did not approve. | ||
| Yeah, it's probably the code of the universe. | ||
| God probably says, look, you can go visit, but don't mess around with it. | ||
| Well, there's definitely something to be said. | ||
| It actually talks about this in Enoch about a divine justice. | ||
| And so I think, you know, again going back to what is our job? | ||
| You know, how would society function? | ||
| You have aspects in like government, do you trust your government? | ||
| Is government going to follow through and bring accountability? | ||
| You know, that's our job in the same sense in that we have to ensure that if we are to truly have an equal and fair society, that you have to have this aspect of justice that has to be carried out. | ||
| And I, you know, I can go back to something that I found kind of crazy, but, you know, the mandatory minimum for child predators are not that high in this country. | ||
| And so Congress can actually increase the mandatory minimums. | ||
| But there's been a lot of lethargy about that. | ||
| It's like, why would you, you know, not want to increase it? | ||
| Some people are against the death penalty. | ||
| And I would say that it's not, you know, my job to play God or to judge people just to help arrange the meeting. | ||
| Mm, yeah. | ||
| I it's a weird job, right? | ||
| I mean, you're involved in the disclosure of things that have questioned that people have questioned forever. | ||
| I mean, these are the huge questions that exist from the 1960s on. | ||
| UFOs, JFK,. | ||
| RFK. | ||
| Those are the big ones. | ||
| We're pushing for it, and there's a good group of people that are assigned to it. | ||
| I did say recently, so the MLK documents just came out, and we're wrapping up our JFK investigation. | ||
| So after we finalize the JFK investigation, we're putting out an official congressional report on our findings, and people can read it and decide for themselves. | ||
| Then we have RFK and then MLK. | ||
| But I think a lot of the MLK family was actually very concerned that we were going to go into extracurricular. | ||
| That's not the objective of the task force. | ||
| It's to specifically expose what the government was doing if they knew about the potential threats. | ||
| And people say, well, why do we care about it? | ||
| I constantly get, well, we shouldn't care about this. | ||
| because there has to be a check and balance. | ||
| And when you know if the CIA was operating outside of the federal government, if you know that whistleblowers are being punished, if they need to be reformed to the FOIA Act, all this stuff, then we have to be able to put forward legislation to ensure it doesn't happen again. | ||
| And what's been very interesting and almost serendipitous about the whole JFK investigation is you have President Trump now in the second term that's released all this information and multiple presidents tried to, but they were worked against by their own secretaries within these agencies and then deep sea actors that tried to block the efforts for release. | ||
| Now you're seeing kind of a flush of the system and even though the information hasn't come out as fast as we would like it to. | ||
| The fact that they've made these admissions is really good. | ||
| But moving forward into how you prevent this from happening again, it's people really do, like young people especially, because there's so much fatigue for people that have been in office for, you know, and the reason I say that, like, I don't even want to do this for the next ten years is because everyone, even people I've looked up to, after a certain amount of time, they lose their edge. | ||
| And I think that's because, like, you're up there, you're taking in a lot of incoming. | ||
| It's not a fun job. | ||
| Like, you're getting attacked, like, you're getting beaten down. | ||
| It's stressful. | ||
| But if you can put all your energy in it now and then you can cut ties and pass it on, that's how our founding fathers wanted us to do, is like, pass the torch, stand up the next generals. | ||
| Right, but we have a bunch of career politicians. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| that want to stay in office for fifty, sixty years. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| And that's a problem. | ||
| And it's on both sides. | ||
| Yeah, it's on both sides. | ||
| So I'm trying to do a discharge petition now on term limits. | ||
| So back in January of my first term, so back in January of 2022, I'm sure you saw there was like this massive speaker's fight about confirming Kevin McCarthy as the Speaker of the House. | ||
| And I was part of one of those twenty that said, we're not going to vote for you just yet. | ||
| We need to reform the institution and the way that we function because power had been consolidated within the Speaker's position so much so that how it's supposeded to work is you're supposed to be able to bring a bill forward, that bill's supposed to come to the floor. | ||
| All these policies were being consolidated in one person, and if you didn't follow the line, you wouldn't get committee assignments, you wouldn't be able to fundraising. | ||
| They would basically cut off all aspects of fundraising in Washington. | ||
| And the mainstream media for a while was like, you guys are disrupting the process, you know, like you guys are fighting. | ||
| Well, what the hell do you want Congress to do? | ||
| You want us just to follow the line and not argue our principles? | ||
| Like, that's the last time I checked you, you're supposed to fight for that. | ||
| And so we were able to reform the institution, but one of the things that we had negotiated with the former Speaker was we wanted a vote on term limits, and that never came up. | ||
| And so now because of our very slim majority. | ||
| We have the ability to do something called a discharge petition, and it's where you can physically go down and basically collect signatures on a bill. | ||
| And so I'm bringing forward two that have already been filed. | ||
| One is going to be to force a vote on term limits. | ||
| So I'm going to see if members of Congress will actually put their name to actually bring that bill to the floor. | ||
| There's going to be a massive, I hope, pressure campaign to activate members to do that. | ||
| And then the other one is banning insider trading. | ||
| Yeah, that's been talked about for a while. | ||
| But it hasn't been done. | ||
| And we can do it. | ||
| And she just needs a little bit more money and then she'll quit. | ||
| Well, it's not, you know, there was a comms director meeting for the entire GOP and I'm calling up Burchett's bill on banning insider trading and we were not invited to that meeting. | ||
| Our staff was excommunicated from that meeting. | ||
| I wonder why. | ||
| Yeah, I know. | ||
| So they were making money. | ||
| Shocker. | ||
| It's crazy how openly corrupt that part of the business is. | ||
| But the thing is, once you've become accustomed to being able to do something and you've been able to do it for decades, you're very reluctant to give that up. | ||
| Why would you give that up? | ||
| That's a huge advantage. | ||
| People say that it doesn't exist, but last time I checked, when you get access to CEOs, when you get access to information that are affecting markets, and then you're on the committee that has purview over those bills. | ||
| You do have information. | ||
| Like, for example, it seems like you have a little. | ||
| You have a little more than the average person. | ||
| And there's a lot. | ||
| You know, you can look at people, you know, they go in, you're making 175 a year, and then all of a sudden you come out, you're worth like 20 million, 200 million. | ||
| It's kind of shady. | ||
| You're not really gambling. | ||
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| The stock market is kind of gambling. | ||
| You're not gambling. | ||
| Like the UFC doesn't even allow me to gamble, and I can't even affect the outcome. | ||
| But yeah, see? | ||
| So you can't do it, but Congress can. | ||
| Congress can, you know? | ||
| For now, at least. | ||
| I the inside information that I have, anyone could have. | ||
| Mostly, not really. | ||
| No, that's not true. | ||
| No, I know some stuff sometimes, unfortunately. | ||
| Yeah, I was told, um, if I forced to vote, that I was going to cost us the Re the Republic is what I was saying. | ||
| But the thing about the insider trading thing is the amount of money is so egregious. | ||
| Like, isn't Pelosi now worth 400 million? | ||
| Wasn't that the thing? | ||
| It's upwards. | ||
| I saw over 200 million, but I thought she jacked up her portfolio recently significantly. | ||
| But it's not just her, it's on both sides. | ||
| Oh yeah, no, she's just the poster lady. | ||
| And unfortunately, no slight at her. | ||
| It's all over the board. | ||
| If you look at how many people, it's red, blue, red, blue. | ||
| It's the whole thing. | ||
| Everyone's doing it. | ||
| I am. | ||
| I told my husband, I was like, we're not going to do stocks because it's just, that's the one thing. | ||
| You can talk to anyone. | ||
| I actually was reading an article. | ||
| So, and the local press are like, RepBloon is trying to force a vote on this, right? | ||
| And so, like, I'm always the kind of redheaded step child, usually with, especially in deaf circles. | ||
| But this one lady posts, I actually started laughing. | ||
| She goes, well, a broken clock is right twice a day. | ||
| And I started laughing because I'm like, it's such a bipartisan issue. | ||
| Like, over eighty percent of Americans don't think that Congress should be able to trade stock. | ||
| And it's true because we're given access to information and that's really influencing your decision. | ||
| Did you ask her what the rest of you are wrong about? | ||
| I mean, I tend to, I think it's just, I think it's party, party associations. | ||
| Like, some people just will never vote. | ||
| A broken clock. | ||
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| People are rabid and they're super upset now, obviously, because Trump's in office again. | ||
| So that rabid nature has been over amplified? | ||
| It has. | ||
| I think a lot of it, though, is driven by, like, bot activity, I think is really big. | ||
| I can tell you that when I first launched the task force, people were like, She's an intelligence asset. | ||
| She's never going to release information. | ||
| Then it came out that I actually don't have declassification authority, but we have been able to produce wins, and we are getting full cooperation from the executive branch. | ||
| So we're just simply investigating the findings, collecting the information and pressuring for release. | ||
| There are real people along with those bots, but real people are also influenced by bots. | ||
| Group things. | ||
| There are waves of negativity and positivity that go in certain directions that are orchestrated. | ||
| And there's companies that are known companies that you could actually hire them to do stuff. | ||
| Oh, they exist in Florida, actually. | ||
| There's a couple of social media influencers that have been approached. | ||
| I've seen it, so I know it exists. | ||
| Crazy. | ||
| What's interesting though is it goes back to you never want to get in trouble in a crowd of people because they'll just look at each other. | ||
| You ever see, like, someone getting beaten up and they just like, film it, right? | ||
| So they're like going to help that person. | ||
| And that's part of that group thing. | ||
| It exists online. | ||
| I do think X needs to do something, at least like being able to label bot accounts, because I've seen it happen, especially on certain things. | ||
| Like I had done something to allow new moms to vote when you're recovering. | ||
| Our job is different. | ||
| Like only thirteen women in US history have ever given birth. | ||
| It's about to be 14 who are members of Congress. | ||
| And God forbid we enter a war or something. | ||
| We're not going to be able to vote. | ||
| If you're recovering in a hospital, that's a pretty rare circumstance. | ||
| And so there was definitely bot accounts that were attacking me for that and accusing me of like destroying the Republic again. | ||
| I said, I don't think that's the case. | ||
| But yeah, that's not tin foil hat stuff, folks. | ||
| You really need to know that. | ||
| Why wouldn't there be? | ||
| This is the thing. | ||
| Like if you were, whether it's this country, a corporation, another country, why wouldn't you automate your system or have AI or even just have actual people that have a job and their job is to type inflammatory. | ||
| So whatever it is, insults, whatever it is, like whatever their accomplishment, whatever their goal they're trying to accomplish is, why wouldn't you have a group of people that you have at your command if it's legal? | ||
| Because it is legal. | ||
| So it is legal and in politics what's interesting is they'll test, like, especially when you're running for office, it's kind of interesting because you'll actually during my first race, I actually had a firm that I was going to for consulting and they had someone that had worked at the firm that had also worked with like McDonald's branding. | ||
| So like people that are running for office will bring on these firms and then they'll give them kind of like a branding profile. | ||
| What was interesting about that is that you have this aspect of bot activity. | ||
| Social media at the time was kind of just resurfacing as if you want to be kind of influential, you have to be able to use social media, share your message and get that out there. | ||
| And I think Trump really kind of refined that and was kind of one of the lead figures in that, especially when Twitter one point zero was in existence. | ||
| But then you had this aspect of people who were running for office. | ||
| And then there was actually a censorship state in this country. | ||
| And we found out that Twitter one point zero was coordinating with the Department of Homeland Security. | ||
| We found this out actually in a congressional hearing where they were actually and DHS had a division under CISA that was supposed to monitor terrorist organizations and they were using it on the American people to censor information, specifically on COVID on January 6, all that. | ||
| That is scary. | ||
| You still have censorship issues in places like the EU. | ||
| So to think that they wouldn't use social media platforms, especially to influence masses, is just that's not a conspiracy theory that happens. | ||
| We have evidence of that. | ||
| Of course, censorship is influencing. | ||
| It's also causing people to self censor, which changes discourse. | ||
| Yeah, not wanting to have conversations with people. | ||
| Yeah, well you can get banned from Twitter for a variety of things, particularly during COVID. | ||
| But I think COVID was also a great test case for them. | ||
| Let's see, like, if there is some sort of catastrophe, some natural disaster, some national security issue where we could now enforce new regulations of censorship. | ||
| Well, and scary regulations at that because COVID was really kind of dystopian. | ||
| And going back to kind of, you know, I think you'd mentioned foreign government influence using bots. | ||
| The one thing that's been interesting is in our investigation. | ||
| So like taking now my task force hat off and going into actual problems that we see right now happening. | ||
| You saw this like massive a couple of weeks ago, rift that was taking place between the American people specifically on immigration and all of a sudden these like pop up riots. | ||
| I actually called them the TMU riots, like the TMU Chinese app because it came out via actually this woman, her name's Data Republican on X and she actually tracked down the funding. | ||
| And what was happening was the Chinese government was basically propping up this billionaire, American billionaire, Neville Singham. | ||
| And actually, he was donating money to organizations like Party of Socialism and Liberation. | ||
| And they were actually funding a lot of these riot pop-ups in the area. | ||
| So you had people that were being used divided, for example, on the immigration topic. | ||
| You literally have them passing out, you know, Mexican flags saying that they cared about immigrants when in reality the financial ties was actually coming from the CCP. | ||
| So the Chinese government on many occasions, and it's not uncommon within Congress to know, even on apps like TikTok, they were showing certain information in in order to cause a rift and influence people. | ||
| This same individual, Neville Singham, actually, once we got this information, we sent a request to have him come testify to Congress. | ||
| And he spends part of his year in Shanghai, China. | ||
| And so we were not able to deliver him his subpoena, basically. | ||
| And so there's a letter that Chairman Comer has now authorized to be sent that will go to the Treasury Department to freeze his assets unless he comes to testify to Congress. | ||
| Wow. | ||
| And that, mind you, this is not, you know, people and like, look, I started out before politics with my feet getting wet as an activist. | ||
| Like, that's actually how we started out in politics. | ||
| So, like, I understand the immigration, the border. | ||
| I like understanding all arguments because I've I've gone through it and I've had a debate on it debate it. | ||
| But what's a problem for me is that you have foreign governments trying to cause a rift and then promote ideologies that will empower people specifically to push forward policy that will actually put us as like second tier, as opposed to the Chinese government. | ||
| And I do think that the Chinese government in their execution has been very, very specific about how they want to hinder our ability to be global dominators. | ||
| And I think when you're looking at what happened in COVID time frame, right? | ||
| So like, like, a lot of people said that Wuhan Lab leaked that that was a conspiracypiracy theory. | ||
| We now know that it happened and that was true. | ||
| But at the same time, if you look at what President Trump was doing, he was actually trying to negotiate trade with China and he was winning and then all of a sudden COVID happened. | ||
| Well, what was interesting the second time around in Trump 2.0 is that you have all these Timu riots taking place. | ||
| At the same time, and it almost got no coverage in the mainstream media, but you had multiple Chinese nationals that were caught trying to release agro terrorism weapons. | ||
| Yeah, we talked about those things. | ||
| Yeah, agro terrorism weapons. | ||
| And then at the same time the tariff war was taking place and then you actually saw them trying to infiltrate. | ||
| So I don't think it's by accident, but I do think that it's important to remember that just because you see something something happening on the mainstream media, the media will always try to amplify something because it's rage baiting and it's click and its views, which translates to money. | ||
| And if it's negative against Trump, it gets rage baiting. | ||
| Of course, of course. | ||
| But when you actually look at where the funding stream is coming from, it actually goes back to China. | ||
| And this is not the only incident where they tried to drive a wedge between Americans and then actually compartmentalize with Hispanic Americans specifically. | ||
| So in 2016, now the largest voting minority in the country are Hispanic Americans specifically of Mexican descent. | ||
| And I think you can find that stat on pewhispanic dot org. | ||
| So when you're looking at voting demographics, how could you influence an entire demographic to help skew or influence the midterm election. | ||
| And it would be specifically, probably, on the immigration topic to try to race bate people. | ||
| But then you have this aspect of the same guy, Neville Singham, his wife actually funds an organization called Code Pink. | ||
| So this is all Chinese money now going to a separate cause. | ||
| And this one specifically is on the Israel versus Palestine issue. | ||
| They don't care about Israelis or Palestinians. | ||
| This is a Chinese funded group. | ||
| And what they're doing is they're using that front in an effort to then divide on that topic as well. | ||
| So it's a multifaceted approach using minority classes in order to actually push the end goal, which would be communism. | ||
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| And also, you can actually look on the flyers for these organizations. | ||
| So PSL, Neville Singham is actually an open admirer of Mao Zedong. | ||
| I mean, like, it's all there and it's out there for you to find. | ||
| But it's just crazy because most people, you know, you see this aspect of propaganda that's being shown to you and you're not going to be like, Who's funding that? | ||
| You know, you're not going to be able to say, Like, you know, tell that person, I'm going to fight for this. | ||
| But that's they don't actually realize the more nefarious perspective of what's happening behind the scenes. | ||
| So I absolutely believe this is true that I'm sure other countries fund similar things. | ||
| But also, it was a reaction to some of the ICE raids, right? | ||
| I mean, it was a visceral reaction that. | ||
| that a lot of people had the idea of people just showing up and pulling people out of schools and pulling people out of Home Depot and pulling people that were just hard working people that maybe snuck over here because they didn't have a legal way to get over here. | ||
| But since they've been here, they've been good people. | ||
| And they're part of communities. | ||
| And that's what freaks people out because when people thought about ICE, they thought, great, we're going to get rid of gang members. | ||
| They didn't think, great, you're going to get rid of a landscaper. | ||
| But the question is, why didn't they do it then during, why did these riots and why did this happen? | ||
| No, no, no. | ||
| I don't disagree with you. | ||
| I think it's Obama Biden. | ||
| Listen, I'm sure some of these riots absolutely are manufactured. | ||
| I'm sure they are. | ||
| I'm sure these pallets of bricks that get left off on corners when they know that there's going to be Oh yeah, that was the CLM. | ||
| That's bananas. | ||
| Well, and they fund race. | ||
| But to your point, so how do you fix something like the immigration system as a whole, right? | ||
| So you definitely don't have an open border. | ||
| That's correct. | ||
| Because you need to know if people are criminals that are coming in. | ||
| You don't want cartel members coming in. | ||
| You don't want murderers coming in and serial killers. | ||
| Like there's a reason why we have borders. | ||
| All the above, right? | ||
| There's a reason why we have borders. | ||
| But the thing that freaks out people is like how many corporations rely on illegal labor? | ||
| Oh, how many types of chicken coops? | ||
| Tyson Chicken Bar is one of them. | ||
| I actually, yeah, we actually last year I was putting out some messages on them because I had watched this documentary about the slaughterhouses, how they're actually using migrant children, like 14, 15 in some of these slaughterhouses. | ||
| And the lobbyist from Tyson Chicken Corporation contacted my chief of staff at the time and was like trying to basically say, like, hey, like basically back off, but like, I don't care. | ||
| Like, it's wrong. | ||
| Like, I don't care where you're on the spectrum. | ||
| You shouldn't allow migrant labor with children specifically because it's child slave labor. | ||
| I'll tell you a story that a high level government official told me. | ||
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| I don't want to I don't know if he said it on here or not, so I don't want to say his name. | ||
| Wait, so he was on here, so that then narrows it. | ||
| Okay, it's okay. | ||
| Someone actually said to him that they don't want to stop the illegal immigration because they need cheap labor. | ||
| Correct. | ||
| I actually think that it will never stop, at least not in the past. | ||
| But they don't have to pay them any benefits, they don't have to take care of their insurance. | ||
| Or pay them at all. | ||
| Well, they pay them, but they don't have to pay them what they're supposed to pay them. | ||
| Well, I've heard cases where people, specifically contractors, will walk on people if they know that they're here illegally. | ||
| And so going back to like, how do you fix this? | ||
| Right. | ||
| Is one of the top cases that I handle, apart from social security help and refunds. | ||
| So, a congressional office does constituent services and it's basically like customer service. | ||
| Like, have you been victimized by the federal government? | ||
| Call this number. | ||
| That's your congressional office. | ||
| So, specifically on immigration cases, like, if you've had a problem with the State Department visas, all that, you can contact your local congressman. | ||
| And so, what I will say is that we've had people that have spent like tens of thousands of dollars to come here, but it takes like twenty something years to do. | ||
| And that's part of the problem is there's been such an influx and such a bog down of the actual system that our actual system is not functioning at the capacity that it should actually help people come here the correct way. | ||
| Well, especially poor people, right? | ||
| And if you want to immigrate to the United States, the application, one of the things they ask you is, are you an expert in something where people in the United States can't do it? | ||
| Like a doctor or maybe you're a musician and like no one else could sing your songs. | ||
| Like you, you, maybe you could get citizenship from that. | ||
| But if you're just a landscaper, you're just a guy who lives in a third world country and you want a better life and you say, I heard you can get across and I heard when you get across you can get work. | ||
| Like what is that guy going to do? | ||
| That guy doesn't have the money to hire a lawyer. | ||
| He's not going to, how is he going to prove that he's more valuable than a United States citizen that's already here doing the exact same job? | ||
| I do think that unless we are able to A, assign probably more lawyers, more judges to actually hear these cases, it's going to continue to be a problem. | ||
| And I have heard, okay, on the floor, these are conversations between members that to a certain extent, especially when you're talking about, you know, like an eVerify system within the ag industry, that actually members of that committee don't want that because they know that the farmers are actually heavily dependent on some of these illegals to work in the ag. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And construction crews and fill in the blanks. | ||
| So I can confirm that. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So isn't the solution force people to pay everyone exactly the same way? | ||
| Well, yeah, because you don't have the decrease in wages. | ||
| However, I think the bigger problem that we have here though is that at least specifically in my district and then also having argued this is that this gray area that's been created, in my opinion, they don't want a solution for. | ||
| They do it intentionally with the understanding that both sides are going to fund raise off of it. | ||
| In my opinion, if I was to be able to actually fix this, I would say that you have to I would say pause, let the system run through, take everyone in, vet them, make sure they're not criminals, et cetera. | ||
| But then the system allows time for it to actually catch up to itself and then you can continue as is. | ||
| What you just said was so scary that they don't want to resolve it because they want the issueue to exist so they can fundraise for it against it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| That's so nuts and probably so accurate. | ||
| That's probably so accurate. | ||
| Because anytime anything ever happens, one of the first things they do is like, please donate. | ||
| Like, throw it up. | ||
| All the people that are very reactionary are like, I can't believe this is happening. | ||
| And it's crazy as most elected officials might send out that email, but the email fundraisers actually are taking like 80% of that dollar. | ||
| That's like usually the average. | ||
| And it's like, I'm in the wrong business. | ||
| This is crazy. | ||
| The scariest thing about nonprofits is how much profit they make. | ||
| It's really weird when you see the salaries of some of these people, they're nonprofit. | ||
| I will never, I will never. | ||
| $100 a year. | ||
| You're like, what is, how is that? | ||
| And they do nothing. | ||
| It's crazy. | ||
| Or what's going on with the LA fire thing? | ||
| You know, where they can't figure out where all the money went. | ||
| It went to 188 different nonprofits. | ||
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| Spencer, is this even Spencer Pratt? | ||
| I was like, Spencer Pratt for Governor. | ||
| The little pit bull that dude on that thing. | ||
| Well, he burned his fucking house was burned down. | ||
| And then they promised all these celebrities are like, yeah, donate. | ||
| We'll give it to the victims. | ||
| It's like, where did it go? | ||
| There's like this fine print that he wrote. | ||
| It's really weird, but it exposes the legality of these systems. | ||
| It's legal for them to operate like that, where, you know, an enormous percentage of all the money that comes in goes to overhead. | ||
| It goes to the government. | ||
| And they don't find it right. | ||
| But it's such a scam. | ||
| It's such a weird scam. | ||
| And it's such a devious thing because you're pulling on people's heart strings. | ||
| That's why going back to what I said, we need younger people and we need more normal people to run for office. | ||
| We need AI to take over. | ||
| I don't know about AI is our God. | ||
| So no, no, no, no. | ||
| AI is our governor. | ||
| AI is our king. | ||
| We can. | ||
| That's what we'll say in school now. | ||
| AI is our king. | ||
| We need to, I think AI can be used in good sense. | ||
| And I can, and I ask Rock things a lot, and I will argue points, but I think we need to work alongside it because there's this aspect of AI that removes the humanity. | ||
| Like, I don't think you can teach AI empathy. | ||
| And there's a certain aspect of humanity that needs to be kept involved in these decision making processes. | ||
| For example, if you have a drone that's been targeted to, let's say, eliminate a terrorist at this grid location, and it's functioning solely on AI, well, what's going to enable it to be able to pause on destruction of a location if there's children within it? | ||
| I mean, if it's a bot, it's not thinking. | ||
| And these are like a drone. | ||
| use is no better than what you just described. | ||
| Well, there are oversights and massive investigations, especially if it's in regard to civilian casualties. | ||
| but civilian casualties are the majority of deaths from drones. | ||
| I would say based on the people that I've talked with and interacted, it's definitely happened in the past and it's definitely problematic. | ||
| However, I think if people get into trouble showing it's but it's the majority. | ||
| I'd have to I mean, look, I don't The majority of the people that died were civilians. | ||
| They weren't the intended targets. | ||
| Well, and that's a problem. | ||
| And that's where a lot of these people do. | ||
| You have LOAC, so there's massive investigations with the Jags, et cetera, that get involved in these investigations. | ||
| I'm not saying, like, would AI be better than that? | ||
| I don't know. | ||
| Well, I think you can have I think you can have an AI decision making process, but where there is a human involved in that step process. | ||
| So like the human would be the final step in authority. | ||
| So the AI would rang it. | ||
| And like, granted, I'm not an AI programmer, but I am saying that I think that there is an interface where you can have humans involved in the final step. | ||
| Well, the most terrifying solution is not that, is don't use the missiles. | ||
| Instead, you have a drone that specifically targets one person. | ||
| Yeah, there are suicide drones. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But, I mean, even worse, like, it flies through the house and, like, lands on the dude's head, blows up. | ||
| Don't fringe me out too much, because the Chinese have a little spy drone that's, like, literally this big. | ||
| Have you seen it? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Yeah, and they just Yeah, they have bug drones. | ||
| Mosquitoes. | ||
| I'm sure our government does too. | ||
| There's no way the Chinese are the only ones who do it. | ||
| Especially if they really have been backing engineering UFOs for the last 45 years. | ||
| I don't think that any other government is as advanced in regards to that topic as we potentially are, and I say that because if that were the case, then they would be the world superpower. | ||
| I agree with that, but I also think that even though we probably have the best military contractors, we also get infiltrated by the Chinese government and the Russian government all the time. | ||
| Oh, that's they're always And Congress gets infiltrated. | ||
| Yes. | ||
| Like how many people like have all of a sudden girl like girlfriends. | ||
| Stop my review. | ||
| He's girlfriend. | ||
| Thank wink. | ||
| No comment on that one. | ||
| Guys are weak. | ||
| We're so weak. | ||
| All you have to do is be hot and we're stupid. | ||
| We're stupid. | ||
| He's my biggest fan, that guy. | ||
| Of course. | ||
| There's always gonna be people like that that infiltrate universities, that infiltrate research centers, they get information back to the CCP. | ||
| There's that famous story, I think Mark Andreessen told us about how what was it in Berkeley? | ||
| I forgot what the corporation was, but the power went down. | ||
| And so all these CCP people panicked because they were supposed to send the information back. | ||
| And if they don't, hey, maybe your grandmother doesn't get her medicine. | ||
| Maybe, you know what I mean? | ||
| Maybe your family gets a visit. | ||
| Like, you have to be on time. | ||
| The University of Michigan has now had like, what, two? | ||
| I think there's agro terrorism was like University of Michigan. | ||
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| And then you see, like, all over the country, they've been infiltrated by, like, these governments have, like, very cleverly inserted their ideology into these universities. | ||
| Like, Yuri Bezmanov talked about this, that Russia was doing this in the 1980s. | ||
| It was 1984. | ||
| The one thing that's been interesting is, and a lot of people aren't talking about, there's one representative member, Republican from California that's addressing it. | ||
| But when they have surrogate have children here for US citizenship, but then they take them back and fully integrate them and educate them in China. | ||
| And so technically they're US citizens, but they are being totally raised with the ideology and perspective of the Chinese government. | ||
| And that's an interesting perspective. | ||
| And then they come back over here and they're full US citizens. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Full access to the Chinese government. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Access to all our resources, everything, education systems. | ||
| And then we sell the Chinese government land around our military base. | ||
| Oh, that has been, I get, you know, I love our libertarian brothers, okay, but and sisters, but I've gotten into so many debates on this because we're like, well, you know, we shouldn't limit an American's ability to actually sell their property. | ||
| And I'm like, yeah, but the Chinese government literally wants to eliminate the West as well. | ||
| And so we have to be cognizant of that. | ||
| And also, too, by the way, it's not like you're just like buying a military installation. | ||
| You think that they're not actually like actually putting tech and or observing, monitoring, pulling all our resources. | ||
| Not just that. | ||
| Mike Baker talked about this on the podcast that they sell mobile phone towers to these companies. | ||
| Well, Huawei, which was they were really problematic. | ||
| But they sell these mobile phone towers near these bases. | ||
| And so they sell them at a discounted rate. | ||
| And then the Huawei stuff was crazy because it actually had like third party access built into some of their systems. | ||
| And a lot of the tech that they actually sell here, whether to our law enforcement, so like any time you have Specifically, I would say, like, within even our craning and like our actual shipping operations, those things are sending signals back home. | ||
| Yeah, well, we're so stupid we can't make those things. | ||
| Well, we should we should be making. | ||
| So there's policy changes. | ||
| If you have an American business, you can now actually get a big tax incentive for manufacturing back home. | ||
| That's great, but it's going to take ten years for us to even catch up with where they are now. | ||
| We just have to stay with ourselves. | ||
| What a stupid idea. | ||
| Like, everyone has a cell phone. | ||
| No one can make a phone. | ||
| What is that? | ||
| Nobody saw that coming? | ||
| That's bananas all over the world. | ||
| They sold us out in the 70s for manufacturing. | ||
| And I think that's where you're seeing this, you know, aspect of people that are very like if you talk about and I'm not like an isolationist by any means, but like I do believe that we should have, especially with COVID, everyone saw this. | ||
| We should have certain things that are just manufactured here. | ||
| I think tech is extremely important. | ||
| I think Palmer, like he's doing like laptops or something now. | ||
| Oh, great. | ||
| And the United States are trying to actually move that over. | ||
| Elon should make a phone. | ||
| I bet he's thinking about it because he's in some sort of a dispute right now with Apple because Apple won't there's something about the way Grock AI shows up and he's saying that their algorithm is essentially rigged where OpenAI is like Grock AI is never featured. | ||
| Oh, really? | ||
| I have a Grock app on my phone, but. | ||
| So maybe that will incentivize people him to make a phone. | ||
| Elon make a phone and we'll try it out. | ||
| Elon Musk says Apple is rigging the App Store for chat GPT. | ||
| The tech mogul is threatening immediate legal action, accusing the iPhone maker of unequivocal antitrust violation designed to favor his AI rival. | ||
| Oh, is his AI rival the Sam Altman AI guy? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It's interesting. | ||
| I wonder if that's, I mean, you don't just say something like that, do you? | ||
| No, no. | ||
| He definitely, he's not a dummy. | ||
| He's smart. | ||
| There's definitely something there. | ||
| Oh, readers added context. | ||
| 2025, Deepseek reached number one. | ||
| And Deepseek's the Japanese, the Chinese one, right? | ||
| Oh, and Deepseek's freaky about some of the stuff that it can do. | ||
| Just a month ago, Perplexity also reached number one overall in India's App Store. | ||
| Both of these occurred after the OpenAI Apple partnership announced on june 10, 2024. | ||
| But what about the United States? | ||
| Because the United States is the biggest market when it comes to like we're probably the highest percentage of people that use Apple in the world. | ||
| I mean, it's literally when you go to buy a phone, it's usually an iPhone. | ||
| I'm almost I think it's something crazy with kids. | ||
| It's like 84 percent or something like that. | ||
| Oh, don't get me. | ||
| If you have a kid, keep them off phones as long as you can. | ||
| Yes, for sure. | ||
| But the point is like the App Store in America is that is the monopoly in this country if you want to get an app. | ||
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| To be honest with you, I've only ever had an iPhone, and so that's the only platform I've ever used. | ||
| I know it's like Android versus iPhone. | ||
| No, I have both. | ||
| They're both really good. | ||
| The Android's way better than it used to be. | ||
| But it's still freaky. | ||
| I had it back in the day, but it's it's right there where an iPhone is right now, just different and gives you a lot more access to stuff. | ||
| Well, it's still freaky though. | ||
| Then you have these phones that are considered real safe phones that aren't ripping your data and basically turn on every, like, ten minutes to kind of be able to target you for sales, whatever it might be. | ||
| I can tell you that, you know, given my job and some of this stuff., I am totally freaked out by having an iPhone and I look forward to the day where I don't have to have a phone. | ||
| I'm going to get a flip phone. | ||
| You're going to have a chip in your head by then. | ||
| No, absolutely. | ||
| Of me of all people, no chips. | ||
| We're chip free. | ||
| I don't know if there are any phones that really, truly, are safe. | ||
| I mean, I know that there's some phones that run on alternative operating systems that aren't Google. | ||
| What is that alternative system that they use with Pixel phones that now, at least the French government, when they find people that have Google phones, they immediately look at that person as a point of interest. | ||
| Because they're like, we can't track you. | ||
| Yeah, because they're using this other operating system. | ||
| What is it called again? | ||
| I can't remember, but it's what Adam Curry uses. | ||
| It's a de-googled iPhone that uses an alternative operating system. | ||
| So this doesn't send data. | ||
| I'm sure the GPS sucks. | ||
| It's probably called Graphene. | ||
| That's right, Graphene OS. | ||
| So there's multiple different versions, different OSs that people use outside of the Google, but you can only use it on Android phones and a lot of people use it on Pixel phones that you can actually buy them. | ||
| What is that guy's name? | ||
| The Asian gentleman who has that Rob Braxton. | ||
| He sells them and he is like a security advocate. | ||
| He's always talking to you about how insecure all your technology is and explaining why they added this and what this means now and where your data is going and how they can track you. | ||
| It's made me. | ||
| So he's he sells de-googled iPhones. | ||
| Oh, he's a response to Joe Rogan. | ||
| Joe Rogan is wondering what I'm hiding five years ago. | ||
| I was fucking around. | ||
| I was just saying, what's that guy hiding? | ||
| He's scared. | ||
| So this guy's been at this forever, right? | ||
| So five years ago, we were talking about him and he was making these phones five years ago. | ||
| Well, and from a government perspective, you have this aspect of a lot of people don't want to reform Pfizer. | ||
| Pfizer in the way that it can surveillance Americans is pretty freaky. | ||
| We would like Really freaky. | ||
| Really freaky. | ||
| And we, you know, I actually didn't get a committee assignment on House Armed Services as of that because I voted against FISA. | ||
| And I was one of two that voted against it. | ||
| And they said that I was not a team player, but when you actually look at I play for the team. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| It seems to be like a ongoing thing. | ||
| I am playing for the team, but it's just not a team. | ||
| Isn't that a nice thing to say? | ||
| Like, what ever happened to the representative of the people? | ||
| What are we doing? | ||
| There's actually there's still a few good representatives. | ||
| I believe it's a team player. | ||
| But it's few and hard. | ||
| It's probably hard to stay on course. | ||
| It's probably hard to keep your morals and your ethics while everyone around you isn't. | ||
| You have to not so some of the best representatives, best even people in government are the ones that didn't have to do this job. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And that's because if you're giving up something to come here, it means that you're doing it for the right reasons. | ||
| If you have nothing to gain from this position and this is the only thing you've ever wanted to be, you're usually not the best person for that job. | ||
| And I say that because you're then only going to do what it takes to get reelected, which means that you are willing to compromise your principles. | ||
| Because there will be decisions that you have to take where you're going to have to stand firm on your principles and be like, I can't vote for that. | ||
| And there's massive pressure campaigns. | ||
| Like when a certain bill comes up, if I'm voting against it, you have planted stories in the press. | ||
| You have super PACs that will come in and drop text messages in your district to your constituents saying, like, Did you know that representative so and so voted against this? | ||
| And so you have to be able to be like, Okay, I'm just going to disconnect. | ||
| And at a certain point, you do have to do that because then you're just, you'll go crazy. | ||
| You'll definitely go crazy if you read all the bots. | ||
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Oh, you can't read. | |
| Don't fight with the bots. | ||
| Don't fight with the bots. | ||
| No, people do read them. | ||
| It's just interesting. | ||
| It's like representative. | ||
| Like when you see representatives today, some of them are kind of characters, you know, where they become like Gotham. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Where they become popular, you know, they become like Fetterman, you know, as part of it. | ||
| He's not too he's changed, he's like actually makes sense on stage. | ||
| Much more reasonable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Than most. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| He's a logical guy. | ||
| He's a very nice guy. | ||
| I think it's hilarious that he still wears the hoodie and the shorts. | ||
| Like, he's exploiting a rule. | ||
| But maybe. | ||
| He's in the Senate. | ||
| Kind of right. | ||
| He's kind of right. | ||
| And that is really how he likes to dress. | ||
| Like when I saw him in DC, it was like ten degrees out. | ||
| This dude had shorts on and a hoodie, a car heart. | ||
| hoodie. | ||
| He's just, but he's like, that's genuinely him, I think. | ||
| Yeah, he's a good guy. | ||
| Well, he's a big guy too. | ||
| So, like, there's only a certain amount of. | ||
| He sweats a lot. | ||
| Probably easily warm like. | ||
| Not saying that we know he sweats, but just, you know, he does. | ||
| He's a big guy. | ||
| But, yeah, no, he's reasonable. | ||
| But the point is he's kind of a character, like Jasmine Crockett's a character. | ||
| AOC's a character. | ||
| There's characters. | ||
| And they, you know, they're like main characters in this political show that we're all watching on television. | ||
| Oversight. | ||
| So I actually was on oversight with all these people except for Fetterman. | ||
| And what I'll tell you is oversight tends to bring out the characters, for sure. | ||
| And what I will say is that actually. | ||
| I have been able on certain things, like with AOC, I introduced a piece of legislation. | ||
| So there was a partner bill in the Senate with Bernie Sanders and I think Josh Holly to cap credit card interest at ten percent. | ||
| And then we started getting I started getting a lot of heat for it because people were like, you can't do that. | ||
| And I was like, well, most of these banks that we're talking about are actually taking government bail out. | ||
| So if you're taking a government bail out and you're essentially operating on the goodwill of the federal government, then you should be held as standard because then you have like predatory lending and what ends up happening is some of these people will take out, you know, credit or maximize out their credit cards and then for the rest of their life they're paying back the debt. | ||
| And then also there's something that we've been able to introduce. | ||
| I like the more populist representation where you see both the right and the left kind of agree on certain things. | ||
| And there's another bill that I'm introducing with another Democrat and another Republican that's a more moderate Republican. | ||
| But it's actually to cap student loan interest at 2.5%. | ||
| That would be wonderful because I was just going to ask you about that. | ||
| I was reading this woman on X and she was talking about how she graduated with student loans that equal, I think it was 28,000 dollars. | ||
| She's paid off. | ||
| She's never missed a payment. | ||
| She's paid off 24,000 dollars and she still owes 60,000 dollars. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| So what they do is they actually, and I've been quoted on this, but it creates an indentured servant, basically, for the rest of their life. | ||
| They're paying off this debt. | ||
| They never actually, you know, function in a better way. | ||
| Absolutely insane. | ||
| If she's telling the truth, and I believe she is, that's absolutely insane. | ||
| That you could owe 60,000 plus dollars after a 24,000 or 28,000 on a loan when you've paid 24,000 of it off. | ||
| It's for people that are actually trying to improve themselves that might have to take out loans for that. | ||
| It's crippling. | ||
| And then they actually can't get a good start at being contributing members of society because they're actually in debt. | ||
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Exactly. | |
| If you want to make America great again, have fewer people in debt, have fewer losers. | ||
| Opportunity. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Have more people that can get things going because they're not burdened by some crazy debt that really isn't. | ||
| It's not right that you do that to an eighteen year old kid and saddle them down like that for the rest of their life. | ||
| And to be clear, like, I'm not talking about student loan forgiveness, and I think you're not either. | ||
| But, you know, I had to join the military. | ||
| I paid for my college using the GI bill. | ||
| And so, do I think student loan forgiveness is fair? | ||
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No. | |
| But is this a way that we can actually make a happy medium to where people are actually given the opportunity to pay back the debt? | ||
| And yes. | ||
| And so, I look forward to introducing that. | ||
| But that's a piece of legislation that should be on the floor and that it's not. | ||
| And it's not free. | ||
| In an ideal world, education is free. | ||
| In an ideal country where you really care about the people and you really want more success stories, education is free. | ||
| Difficult to get into., you have to be qualified, a true meritocracy, but education should be free. | ||
| And if these certain people from different parts of the country don't seem to be getting in, address that. | ||
| Find out what's wrong with their school system and throw federal funds at that. | ||
| It's not impossible to figure out why certain school systems are doing poorly and others are doing great. | ||
| I will tell you, like, from a personal lens and perspective. | ||
| So when I was in my freshman year in high school, I moved up to LA with my mom. | ||
| And by the time I graduated, I went to six high schools and an adult school. | ||
| That's actually, I like, barely graduated. | ||
| And what I will say is that one of the high schools I went to. | ||
| So I went to different schools from there. | ||
| It just how it ended up functioning. | ||
| So like my freshman year, my mom went through a divorce. | ||
| My dad got arrested. | ||
| So I have an interesting background. | ||
| So we, there's that. | ||
| A lot of stuff. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| But I ended up actually going to Venice High School one of these times, and that was around my junior year. | ||
| And what the LA Unified School District was doing at the time is they were actually busing in kids from other parts of LA County. | ||
| And at the time, specifically in the early 2000s, there was a big issue with the black and Chicano gangs in LA. | ||
| And so, you know, what was happening? | ||
| outside in the neighborhoods was carrying on into the school districts. | ||
| And when you have gang activity and like children, the only opportunity that they have is like being able to join a gang and that's it, you know, they're never going to go to college. | ||
| They're never going to have the opportunity. | ||
| And so that carries on into the education system. | ||
| They're never given a chance. | ||
| And so I think in Florida we've been doing it right with school choice, President Trump has been pretty big on that. | ||
| But being able to give students or their parents the ability to send them to good schools without gang activity outside of their zip code, that matters. | ||
| And that does impact people. | ||
| And cracking down on gang activity. | ||
| So there's a kid that was shot in the parking lot of my school. | ||
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Oh. | |
| And shot and killed. | ||
| You had to actually pull up the article, Venice High School's school shooting. | ||
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No. | |
| No, listen, you don't have to tell me. | ||
| Venice was crazy. | ||
| Back at, back before it was gentrified, it was rough. | ||
| Yeah, and it's kind of getting crazy now with homeless people. | ||
| I haven't been back since I basically left. | ||
| So when I was nineteen, I joined the military, and then my mom ended up leaving California with my little brother and sister, probably about five years ago now. | ||
| Venice is always such an interesting part of LA. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because it's like LA, but really weird. | ||
| Like weird people. | ||
| Like interesting. | ||
| LA is weird though, as a whole. | ||
| Yeah, but Venice has like a surf culture, you know. | ||
| Dogtown. | ||
| Dogtown. | ||
| There's a lot of people that are artists that live there. | ||
| That affects the vibe of the place. | ||
| Like Venice in the nineties was really cool. | ||
| Well, in the early 2000s it was cool too, but it was rough. | ||
| I mean, I, um, what's always been filled with crime? | ||
| Well, I got jumped. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| And when I was a jumped. | ||
| Yeah, I got jumped in high school. | ||
| I swear, like, part of the reason why I'm such a huge advocate of like standing up to bullies is probably because of that. | ||
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Yeah. | |
| Damn. | ||
| Venice was rough back in the day. | ||
| I had a buddy of mine who lived there in the park where he used to take his kid. | ||
| someone got shot in it. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And he's like, okay, great. | ||
| Where do I take my kid now? | ||
| I can't, you know. | ||
| Honestly, so like, seeing all that though, like being able to see that and then kind of tell that story, like, I do think that there's power in that because people there's people that go through that and like think, like, man, I might not be able to, like, be successful. | ||
| But that's not true. | ||
| You can always fight your way out of it. | ||
| I joined the military at nineteen, the best thing I ever did. | ||
| And I met a lot of other people in the military who, like, grew up in inner city Chicago or wherever it was, they were able to go back and help their family. | ||
| And, like, to my mom's credit, you know, my mom also has an incredible story, but she had me at twenty years old, single mom. | ||
| My dad eventually got clean, but my husband and I moved him in with us and then he got sober. | ||
| And so that story in itself, I think, you know, you tell your story and it empowers other people, especially to be fighters and not just give up. | ||
| Right. | ||
| There's a lot of people have bad childhoods. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And people won't tell you that. | ||
| Like, no one's gonna be like, you know, but. | ||
| But it's also, you know, it's also, you know, it's a also great for someone to hear a story like yours or someone who came out of a similar childhood maybe that they're having. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Or maybe even worse than they're having. | ||
| And you see what you've been able to do. | ||
| Like that's powerful to people. | ||
| Well, and it is. | ||
| And it's powerful, I think, to an idea that would like to box certain people, whether like you're a woman or you're Hispanic, into this stereotype on like how you should believe and think and vote. | ||
| Or you're poor, you come from a single mom. | ||
| I think that was one of the most important things about Obama becoming president. | ||
| We heard, like, Oh, yeah. | ||
| The guy comes from a single mom and he became the president of the United States. | ||
| It was like, for a lot of people, it's like, Okay. | ||
| Relatable. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Well, maybe my life isn't what I wish it would be, but look what that guy's able to accomplish. | ||
| Maybe I can do something too instead of thinking I'm going to be a loser forever. | ||
| Well, what was interesting is I shared my story. | ||
| So, like, remember I told you I started out as an activist and I would tell people this because, you know, I do feel like, too, in a certain sense, when you tell your story, you can share that you're empowering other people to take something and turn it into a positive. | ||
| And within, like, maybe a couple of weeks of me being elected, I all of a sudden started having this Washington Post reporter reaching out to my family and actually asked my mom if she had proof that my grandmother had actually passed away HIV positive. | ||
| Oh, God. | ||
| And trying to catch you for lying. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| And so they put out this nasty, nasty article about me, basically trying to say that I had fabricated my dad's incarceration record. | ||
| They had tried to say that I was a registered Democrat in Washington, like all this stuff that was categorically false. | ||
| And I had actually gotten contacted from like my old servant. | ||
| It was just a little smear piece. | ||
| Oh, it was terrible, but I had receipts. | ||
| And so after this came out, I said, no, hold up. | ||
| And I actually gave Fox News all my stuff that I had and I was able to refute. | ||
| And then Time magazine had actually reached out and they said, would you mind if we conducted like an interview on your background? | ||
| I said, have it. | ||
| Here's my information. | ||
| I had actually even got my DNA done to like prove that I'm his Hispanic because of the fact that I'm lighter skin. | ||
| When I was elected, there was this controversy on how Hispanic I was and like it was actually a thing. | ||
| I'm like, I'm not supposed to be like Speedy Gonzalez with a sombrero running around. | ||
| You know, it's like, what am I supposed to be? | ||
| That's so racist. | ||
| How that's so racist. | ||
| How Hispanic. | ||
| Isn't that funny that that's the time the left is allowed to be racist? | ||
| It's just like, so crazy. | ||
| It's such a crazy thing to say, how Hispanic is she? | ||
| How black is she? | ||
| Exactly. | ||
| mister Obama, you don't look that black to me. | ||
| It was, it was crazy, but I actually gave all this information to Time magazine. | ||
| Can you imagine saying that to Obama? | ||
| When people would ask me, I actually mentioned that to a reporter, actually, because of the fact that he's half white and half black, and I said, I'm sorry, last time I checked, am I not allowed to be white too? | ||
| Because there's this aspect of I wasn't Hispanic enough because I'm white, but then also this aspect of I'm not white enough because I'm Hispanic. | ||
| So, like, what are you? | ||
| Boy, that's so ridiculous. | ||
| That's such a ridiculous thing to ask. | ||
| It's like, it goes in the face of what's supposed to be about their principles. | ||
| Their principles are supposed to be not seeing color at all. | ||
| Oh, there's a lot of. | ||
| They're going to attack you and say you're pretending to be Hispanic or that you're barely Hispanic and not Hispanic. | ||
| enough. | ||
| What percentage are you? | ||
| I'm half. | ||
| That's fifty fucking percent. | ||
| I'm so crazy. | ||
| And then I had to explain though to our governor. | ||
| I said, well, if my mom's half and my dad's half, what does that make me? | ||
| She goes, a quarter. | ||
| I said, no, that's a quarter. | ||
| I'm three quarters Italian. | ||
| Imagine someone saying, I'm not Italian. | ||
| That's hilarious. | ||
| That's so racist. | ||
| That's such a crazy thing that they allow it as long as it's coming from their side. | ||
| And also, too, if I were on the other side, I'd probably be like a rock star. | ||
| So long story short, so this, this article comes out. | ||
| Time magazine investigates after doing like twenty something hours on background. | ||
| I gave them all the evidence and they actually ended up writing an article about me called The Influencer That came to Congress and then named me as Time magazine's next 100 most influential in the world. | ||
| Wow, that's nice of them. | ||
| I'm just glad that it vindicated me because it wasn't a fun place to be in. | ||
| It's just weird. | ||
| You know, I know that it's always going to be a part of politics, but it's so disappointing as an enlightened culture that we don't disavow that kind of reporting. | ||
| And recognize from both sides how detrimental it is to find out what's real and what's true. | ||
| It's, um, it was done because of the fact that people like me specifically don't meet a certain stereotype, and so it was an effort to discredit that effort. | ||
| But it's like for people like wondering. | ||
| I think most people are going to know why they did it. | ||
| It's pretty obvious, but it's just bizarre that we allow it as long as it's from our side. | ||
| Progressives will allow the most devious behaviors from their side. | ||
| Republicans do the same thing, the most devious shit as long as it's beneficial to their side, and that's what's really stupid, and we need to disavow that. | ||
| You could disagree with someone, don't think they're the right person for the job, vote against them, that's all great. | ||
| But when you start like deceiving people with false depictions of who a person is and making up a bunch of stupid shit and calling into question how Hispanicics. | ||
| Oh, they're so ridiculous. | ||
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Just stop. | |
| This is childish. | ||
| It's like, this shouldn't be where we're at in 2025. | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| It shouldn't be where we're at as a mature nation. | ||
| You know, we're 300 years old now. | ||
| Find it out. | ||
| It was, I think it was actually for my mom especially. | ||
| Like, I've, I've been through the ringer of politics, so like, I'm kind of battle hardened for it. | ||
| I'm like, oh, another hit piece. | ||
| Like, I don't care. | ||
| But it was my mom and like, what she was subjected to. | ||
| And I was like, you know, my mom is really cool. | ||
| Like, she put herself through law school when I was in high school. | ||
| Like, she left an abusive marriage. | ||
| She has come a long way. | ||
| And so for like, her to be treated like that, I was like, it's just like one thing in politics. | ||
| Like, you lose family happiness. | ||
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It's immoral. | |
| It's gross. | ||
| And again, it's one of those things that we shouldn't tolerate. | ||
| We shouldn't be doing it. | ||
| We shouldn't advocate for it. | ||
| We shouldn't be happy if it's done against the side that's ideologically opposed to us. | ||
| It's gross. | ||
| It's gross. | ||
| It's gross as a civilized group of human beings that calls itself a country. | ||
| It's gross. | ||
| It's gross. | ||
| It's like there's other ways to do it. | ||
| You know, you don't have to be a twat all the time. | ||
| I prefer debating on ideology tends to be the best, but people always, it's like in fighting. | ||
| You can't just go and sucker punch someone. | ||
| It's kind of like the same thing. | ||
| And that was kind of, they tried to sucker punch me and I was like, Well, that's also a good thing. | ||
| That's a Jackie Chan. | ||
| You can't even be fighting if you believe what you believe and you have a rational argument, you can have a conversation. | ||
| And this seems to be something that people don't want to do anymore. | ||
| For some weird reason, they want to stick to what they think, stick to what they believe, and they don't want to hear a rational opposing viewpoint because they're so married to their stupid ideas. | ||
| It was, it's a lot of interesting how Congress functions when the cameras are off. | ||
| And I think people would definitely change their opinion because a lot of people will do it for clicks, ratings, and social media has not been both a blessing and a curse in this social media sphere, | ||
| because, uh, in the political sphere, because you can get your information out directly to the American people using it and refute bad information. | ||
| But then there's also this aspect of like, I wish people could see the conversations that take place behind the scenes because it wouldn't be so inflammatory. | ||
| Basically, that's what I'm saying. | ||
| That makes sense. | ||
| Well, full transparency will come with the chip. | ||
| Anna, just put the chip in your brain. | ||
| No chips. | ||
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| We will have full transparency. | ||
| It seems like this whole thing, Your whole journey and becoming involved in politics has been pretty stressful. | ||
| Is that? | ||
| It's definitely not something I want my son to do. | ||
| What you thought it was, what you thought it would be like before you got in, and what was different once you got in there? | ||
| So when I first started out in politics, I started out as So I joined the military at nineteen. | ||
| I paid my way through college. | ||
| I wanted to be a doctor. | ||
| So I got into a med school program at SGU in Grenada, and I was supposed to go there. | ||
| And then, I kid you not, like the day before I was supposed to leave, I got recruited to work for a nonprofit to basically help lead out Hispanic activism nationally. | ||
| And I thought that's how I could make a difference. | ||
| And then I realized that as part of that job, they were putting me on television. | ||
| I had a booker. | ||
| And so I was talking about stuff happening, but it was more the commentary on inflammatory things. | ||
| I actually wanted to address what was happening with human trafficking, and I actually requested the State Department's report. | ||
| I was a big activist with that. | ||
| I was working with the nonprofit at the time. | ||
| And I realized that they only wanted me to talk about what was giving them the ratings. | ||
| And so I did realize, I was like, well, they keep talking about what people in DC are doing. | ||
| So if I want to change the discussion, I have to go to Washington to do it. | ||
| I was like, we're going to run for office. | ||
| He goes, what do you mean we? | ||
| Yeah. | ||
| Because what do you mean? | ||
| I was like, well, from what I gather, everyone's like a team effort. | ||
| And it's totally true. | ||
| If your spouse isn't on board, good luck. | ||
| Because politics is nasty. | ||
| Right. | ||
| And so he ended up basically figuring it out with me. | ||
| And for someone like me, there's no how to manual or how to run for office. | ||
| It's usually family, like literally family affairs where like people like their parents did it or they have like a direct immediate tie to it. | ||
| So I figured it out. | ||
| And now that I'm in office, I'm realizing that I can make an impact to some extent with some influence. | ||
| But it would be a lot more helpful if there were ten other of me. | ||
| And so when I'm done in office, I'm going to help recruit younger candidates that have the ideological perspective that I do to run them. | ||
| And then I'm going to help do things for them behind the scenes to help get them in. | ||
| You're going to be a mastermind behind the scenes to help. | ||
| It just seems like a super broken process. | ||
| It's not. | ||
| So I've traveled a lot. | ||
| I've seen a lot of other parliaments. | ||
| I'm a member of the House Democracy Partnership Institute. | ||
| I've been to a lot of countries and we still have the best system. | ||
| Yeah, but we need. | ||
| But I still believe it's a mess. | ||
| It's a mess though because good people don't want to run and they have to. | ||
| Young people have to run. | ||
| It's also a mess because the people that have been in positions of power for so long are so set in their ways and are so deeply ingrained in the system. | ||
| And all the tentacles of all these different special interests and all the money that's all connected to all these decisions is so – it's just so – it's not. | ||
| It is if you have enough fresh blood. | ||
| So like how do you shock a system, right? | ||
| And you need to infuse it. | ||
| And so right now we have an interesting time period because we have a division. | ||
| So like going back to the kind of declassification efforts that we've been working on. | ||
| For the first time in US history, you have an aspect of the government that's being transparent and releasing information. | ||
| We're helping wherever we can on that. | ||
| But that is only possible because the right people with the right mindset were appointed in those agencies to be able to try to force the system to do something. | ||
| But there's this aspect of that's just the executive branch, but you have the legislative branch. | ||
| And the legislative branch needs younger people that want to do this because they truly believe in fixing the system and you and you can't be a pessimist in this job or else you'll go crazy. | ||
| Yeah, I would imagine. | ||
| You would go crazy. | ||
| So you have to be an optimist and understand that there is a solution for it. | ||
| And going back to kind of like those little quantum breadcrumbs, I've had enough stuff happen where I know I'm on the right path, but I also think that, you know, part of what I'm supposed to do is like to help other people do this. | ||
| So I'm going to help kind of execute that mission. | ||
| How long are you going to be in office? | ||
| I don't know, but not definitely in the next ten years, I promise you I'm going to be with a beekeeper and a flip phone and that's it. | ||
| No, no internet, just the grid. | ||
| Well, if I'm still doing a podcast, then let's talk. | ||
| They've already landed. | ||
| At least we'll get some declassified stuff, right? | ||
| Yeah, hopefully we'll have no quail. | ||
| Yeah, well now we know. | ||
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All right. | |
| Well, thank you very much for being here. | ||
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I really appreciate it. | |
| It was fun. |
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