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Joe Rogan Experience #2366 - Sam Tripoli
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It's amazing how not traveling all the time affects your health.
joe rogan
You feel so much better.
unidentified
Yeah.
sam tripoli
And it's getting crazy on planes now.
joe rogan
Oh, I know, man.
Dude, like, what happened where, like, these altercations are fairly regular?
Like, at airports, you see in brawls at airports all the time.
sam tripoli
Yeah, I have a theory.
joe rogan
What is it?
sam tripoli
They don't want you flying.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, dude.
sam tripoli
You think I'm crazy?
You think I'm crazy?
I'm dead serious.
There's like an Agenda 2050, and literally in there, it lists no more commercial flying.
And you see them at all these like WEFs and all this stuff in Dallas.
joe rogan
That would be hilarious, like if it was only the elites that got the flying.
sam tripoli
Dude, that's literally the plan.
For real?
joe rogan
Okay, but you think that can't be responsible for brawls at the Spirit Airlines.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
I mean, dude, they send in all these people all the time.
I mean, it's crazy to me.
Flights are always late.
joe rogan
Right, right.
But a lot of that happened because of the all these military plan planes are almost hitting commercial planes.
sam tripoli
I'm telling you, dude, if they want you in a 15-minute city, why do they want you flying around?
joe rogan
Okay.
I see what you're saying about the 15-minute city, and I think that's true.
But I don't think this is grand plan to make planes slam into each other.
I think it's a lot of it is incompetence.
Whatever happened.
I'm not saying that's not the Blackhawk in DC.
That was a weird one.
sam tripoli
That was a weird one.
joe rogan
That's a weird one because apparently that lady was instructed to not go in the direction that she was going.
sam tripoli
Right.
joe rogan
But what was the specifics of it?
sam tripoli
Well, she didn't, they look the wrong way.
Like they go, hey, they look this way and it was coming that way or they looked that way and it was coming this way.
They looked the wrong way when they tried to see what was coming.
joe rogan
Was she a part of the Biden administration at one point in time and then left and went back to Flying Hill?
Probably, dude.
It's so hard to know because you see stuff online.
sam tripoli
But if you even study like the Vegas shooting, I mean the LA fires, they want you to blame DEI.
Like, do you remember when that one fire chief or whatever was like, oh, if I come get you and you're too big, you're in the wrong place at the wrong time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sam tripoli
Why would you say that?
Why would you.
joe rogan
It's hubris.
I don't know.
Listen, you got an all-lesbian crew.
sam tripoli
Right.
joe rogan
You got a woman who's the first head of the fire department who's a woman and this lady's a woman and they're all talking about how great it is if someone who looks like you comes to save you and help you.
Yeah, totally.
So they're wrapped up in that kooky ideology.
The absence of meritocracy and the absence of like physical standards for difficult physical jobs to pretend that that's not necessary.
That you shouldn't be able to take the guy out.
The guys that I knew that were all firefighters, the guys that I've known, one of my buddies is a firefighter is a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt.
Another one is a fucking big giant Irish guy.
Like they're all, they were always big people.
sam tripoli
Right.
joe rogan
Because you had to be able to carry folks.
sam tripoli
I agree, dude.
joe rogan
And you had to be able to do like crazy physical things.
You have to axe down doors sometimes.
You know, it's, it's.
Imagine if you took a 100-pound woman and told her to axe down a door.
sam tripoli
Okay.
So I agree with what you're saying, but what I'm saying is what causes more chaos, what causes more infighting is if you push everybody to this is DEI messing up and not that this whole thing is purposeful.
joe rogan
Okay.
So you're thinking that they're instituting DEI on purpose and they're putting incompetent people in positions of power on purpose so that they'll fuck up, so that people will complain or so that it creates more chaos.
sam tripoli
Yes.
So, I mean, I don't know if they're they, the narrative instantly became who are the Bolsheviks.
I don't know.
I mean, lizard people, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
sam tripoli
Well, I don't know if they're lizard.
Well, they probably are lizard people, but I mean, this is, I mean, when Karen Bass, here's the crazy thing about LA.
Very few people are calling out anything anymore.
It's a city of conformity.
Then nobody wants to rock the boat because to get a job in LA, you need 20 green lights.
All you got to catch is one red light and you're not working.
So if you're out there going, hey, dude, this is like, hey, man, what's going up with this?
This seems pretty purposeful.
You're not going to work.
You're just not going to work.
You could get mugged at a gas station, pumping $7 gallon gas and still never complain about what's going on and still vote the same way because you don't want to rock the boat.
If you ask me, it's a big part of moving everybody into these big cities is the forced conformity.
joe rogan
I don't think it's like that everywhere, though.
LA is particularly like that because of the it's a city of conformity already because of Hollywood.
sam tripoli
Yes.
joe rogan
Because you're auditioning for yourself.
sam tripoli
Yes.
100%.
joe rogan
The auditioning for things thing is crazy because it's really the only way to find out if someone's really good at acting.
You give them a chance, right?
But the way it's set up is like people choose people, and if they choose you, you go on to have this incredible life.
You become Brad Pitt.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
But if they don't choose you, you become that guy that everybody sees at the party that's 45, you know, dyeing his hair dark.
sam tripoli
Yep.
joe rogan
And it's not happening and everyone knows it's not happening.
And maybe he's got talent because it's weird.
So you have to conform.
Yes.
You have to say what they want you to say, whether it's about whatever political issues transitioned, climate change, whatever it is.
You can't have any opinions that break from the narrative.
sam tripoli
I totally 100% agree.
And that's kind of why LA, nobody's saying anything right now.
joe rogan
It's a culture.
It's a part of the culture.
But I really think it has something to do with the original way that LA was founded before the whole Reality Star thing and everything else.
But there's definitely a lot of that going on.
But it was all acting.
Everybody wanted to go to the act.
So it was like the primary way that someone would get a gig was an audition.
unidentified
Yep.
sam tripoli
Yep.
There's a term.
It's a communist term.
It's like corony field.
joe rogan
Probably we'll Google that.
sam tripoli
I'm butchering hot grounds.
That will be a theme.
joe rogan
A dope sweatshirt.
sam tripoli
Oh, 10 Planet Van Eyes?
joe rogan
I need one of those.
You got me one?
sam tripoli
I got you.
joe rogan
Alder.
Who's running 10 Planet Dead?
Alder.
Oh, no shit.
Shout out to Alder.
He's yours, yeah, dude.
Bro, I need one of those, though.
I need the Wu-Tang one.
sam tripoli
Okay, oh, dude, I'll get you one.
joe rogan
Does that stink?
sam tripoli
No.
joe rogan
How bad does that smell?
sam tripoli
Why, you want this one?
joe rogan
Give me that one.
Okay.
Later, later.
sam tripoli
No, no, I'll give it to you now because it's hot in here, dude.
joe rogan
Okay, okay, okay.
sam tripoli
Sorry, you got to see my tips, dude.
Here you go.
joe rogan
I'm never watching this.
I'm never watching this.
sam tripoli
It's yours, dude.
That worked out perfectly.
I'm going to sweat like a pig the whole time.
joe rogan
Anything Wu-Tang, I'm down with.
sam tripoli
10th Planet Van Eyes.
I'm just getting murked by Mexicans the whole time.
joe rogan
So they took the V and the N and they made it just like a Wu-Tang.
sam tripoli
It's a great school, dude.
I'm trying to get a blue belt.
I'm just old and fat.
It's hard.
joe rogan
Bro, I've known Alder for fucking more than 20 years.
sam tripoli
Yeah, he's great.
I love him.
joe rogan
I think 20?
Yeah, probably 20 years.
sam tripoli
Yeah, dude.
He's great.
I love jiu-jitsu.
I just got to do old man jiu-jitsu where I got to do wrist locks and shit like that because I can't move these fat legs.
I got fat, old legs.
I can't throw them.
And I'm taking on these.
joe rogan
Are you on any hormone replacement therapy?
sam tripoli
No, I want you so bad.
joe rogan
We'll get you set up.
We'll get you set up on the bottom.
sam tripoli
I got a bad hip too, dude.
That's why I got to work out.
No.
joe rogan
What's wrong with the hip?
sam tripoli
It's just, it's just the wheels are a little off.
joe rogan
Did you get it looked at?
sam tripoli
No, I got to do that.
joe rogan
Okay.
sam tripoli
I've been running nuts.
joe rogan
All right.
Well, before you do all this other stuff, like jujitsu and you have an injury, you should make sure that you're not making that injury worse.
sam tripoli
Probably making it worse.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's kind of important.
sam tripoli
But I love it.
No, I like pain.
joe rogan
I'm glad you like it.
But just listen to daddy because I've been down this fucking surgery road many times with jiu-jitsu.
And I've had two knee surgeries because of jiu-jitsu.
You have to make sure, and I had a bunch of back issues.
You have to make sure that it's not like a labrum tear or something like that, where you're continuing to tear it and make it worse.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because you can get that fixed.
And if you get it fixed, you'll be way better off.
sam tripoli
Yeah, I got to get it fixed.
joe rogan
MMA fighters do it all the time.
Like Shugashon, before his fight with Marab, he tore his labrum the first fight.
And he was going to get it surgery, but he realized he couldn't.
There was no way he was going to.
And he wanted to make that sphere show because they're doing it at the sphere.
He's like, fuck it.
I could still beat that guy.
He's an animal.
sam tripoli
Yeah, he's savage.
joe rogan
Took a chance.
But he needed to get it fixed.
And then he finally got it fixed.
He's like, dude, I feel fucking infinitely better.
Infinitely better.
You have to fix it.
If it's a labrum tear or something like that, you just don't want to ruin it.
You don't want to get it so you need a hip replacement, which I know a gang of guys Who have hip replacements.
Okay.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, I can't believe how many people I know that have hip replacements.
sam tripoli
I went home for the, I brought the kids back to the homeland and all my family was like, yeah, I got this fixed.
I got this fixed.
I got that fixed.
joe rogan
The hip one's nuts, man, because I know guys that are 40 that have hip replacements.
Like, not just one.
You know?
Remember Connor?
Did you ever meet Connor Connor Hume?
sam tripoli
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He had his hips done.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I know like a bunch of MMA fighters that had to get their hips done.
John Wayne Parr, Muay Thai guy, he had his hips done.
At least one hip.
It's rough, man.
They saw the top of your bone off and put a fucking cap on it in a different socket and screw it all in there.
And then that's good for about 20 years.
sam tripoli
I think I messed up some joints during my running and gunning days.
I was not drinking enough water.
joe rogan
I think I probably got injured a bunch of times, didn't notice it.
sam tripoli
Just kept going.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sam tripoli
Like a champ.
joe rogan
The thing about those hips, though, is what they can do now.
Like before in the past, if you had a chronically inflamed hip and arthritis and you were missing calcium or missing meniscus or whatever it would be, cartilage, labrum tears in your hips, you're crippled for life.
Now they just give you an artificial one and they say, well, it probably lasts about 20 years.
You know, well, at least for 20 years, you can walk, like everyone I know that has one walks normal.
sam tripoli
Yeah, I want that so badly.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you don't.
You want to fix your hip.
sam tripoli
Yeah, I know.
That's what I want.
I want to fix my hip.
I'm going to do it when I go back.
joe rogan
No, we'll get it looked at while you're here.
sam tripoli
Really?
joe rogan
How many days are you here?
sam tripoli
I'm here.
I'm leaving tomorrow.
joe rogan
What time tomorrow?
sam tripoli
Like seven.
They put me on.
joe rogan
7 a.m.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whew.
Maybe I'll fly in this afternoon.
We might be able to get you in this afternoon.
sam tripoli
Get my hip looked?
I'll fly right back.
joe rogan
Someone should look at it.
But what you really need is an MRI because they need to find out exactly what's going on inside there.
sam tripoli
I'm paying a gazillion dollars in health insurance.
I better get looked at.
joe rogan
Bro, that doesn't get you nothing these days.
Nothing.
sam tripoli
It's unbelievable.
joe rogan
Do you know what happened to Ben Askren?
sam tripoli
Oh, yeah, dude.
That's so tragic and sad and just disgusting.
It should be like, if they don't cover it, they should send all your money back.
joe rogan
How crazy is that?
He had health insurance.
He got a terrible infection in his lungs that led to, I think it's called necrotic pneumonia.
He had to give a double lung transplant, and health insurance says we're not covering it.
sam tripoli
How is that possible?
joe rogan
That is an obvious catastrophic illness that just hit a guy, right?
Like this is not, he's not like a chronic smoker.
There's no terrible thing that he did.
He just got sick.
And isn't that what health insurance is for?
sam tripoli
100%.
joe rogan
I want to know, like, on what grounds can you deny something like that?
That seems to be like a break in the narrative.
Like, something like that is, you can't say, oh, this person's responsible for that.
They did something they weren't supposed to do because of their insurance.
This guy just got sick.
sam tripoli
Yeah, 100%.
And that's what that whole Luigi thing was about.
That company was using AI to determine whether you should be covered or not.
joe rogan
Right.
sam tripoli
And AI doesn't have any emotion or can't look at it going, well, maybe we should cover this.
It's very analytical about it.
And that's why I guess he was having problems with his back and just got pissed off.
And that's what happens, man.
And that whole thing was weird, too.
unidentified
Yeah, I heard he had a screw loose, too, though.
joe rogan
His friends were saying that there's like he had a break, like something went wrong in his life.
But that might be connected to the surgery, by the way.
You know, if all of a sudden you need to get discs fused in your back and you're in constant pain, that could completely change the way you interface with the world.
You know, Michael Bisping had his neck fixed.
It didn't go well and he had to get it done again.
And he's in so much pain that he couldn't do anything.
He could only basically lie in bed and then go do his UFC duties and then go back and lie in bed.
Just motherfucker was just in agony and keeping it together.
I say keeping it together, but some people don't keep it together when they're in pain all the time, man.
sam tripoli
Well, you know, a lot of people think once you get to the hospital, you're safe, right?
That's where the safe place is.
And, you know, medical malpractice is one of the leading causes of death out there.
And it's, you know, nothing's an exact science, but yeah, they could mess it up.
My grandmother on my father's side just went in to get a bag changed and she never left the hospital.
She passed away.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
I know this lady who went to get a kidney Removed and they took out the wrong kidney.
Oh, so she had one bad kidney and one good kidney, and they took out her bad kidney, or they took out her good kidney and left her bad kidney.
Yeah.
And the doctor would not admit he fucked up.
The doctor would not admit it.
I mean, the whole thing is fucking crazy.
sam tripoli
Brutal.
joe rogan
But that's medical malpractice.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the denial of insurance claims and stuff like that is like the medical miracle is they did give him a double lung transplant.
Ben Askran is alive right now, and he's trying to build himself back up.
sam tripoli
And they had to go fund me it, which is absolutely ridiculous that we live in America and you have to have your friends and fans support you to have this like life-saving surgery.
joe rogan
I think a big chunk of it was Jake Paul.
I think Jake Paul gave him like half a million dollars.
But it's just, it's really kind of crazy that the insurance is allowed to not cover something like that.
Did they have a response?
Is there a response for why they didn't cover that?
sam tripoli
That's tragic.
joe rogan
Because it just seems, it seems insane.
I mean, unless there's some legal loophole, how could you not cover someone who just gets some crazy illness like that?
sam tripoli
You know, when Obama was, I knew Obama was like not the guy I thought I was.
Obama's first term is the last time I voted for either Republican or Democrat.
That was the last time.
So, you know, everybody wanted change.
I can get into how they basically rigged that thing for him.
You know, because America, after George Bush and Dick Cheney, hates old white neocons.
And then who do they have?
Who do they have run against the slick, good-looking young black guy who nobody knew was a Bush at the time?
Who do they have?
John McCain, who is the poster child or the mascot for the old white neocons, right?
So they basically run everybody to Obama and we're like, yeah, we're going to have change.
And he was running on like everyone getting health care and all that stuff.
And then so they have this giant debate in Washington about universal health coverage.
And this dude gets on a plane and runs to Germany to give speeches and stuff like that during the debate on his major campaign issue.
And I'm like, oh, dude, this is just a giant setup.
It's all BS and I've never voted for another.
joe rogan
Explain that.
So he went to Germany to do what?
sam tripoli
Give speeches.
He was going to go give speeches to German diplomats and politicians and all that stuff while we are debating his campaign promise.
And I'm like, why aren't you here fighting for what you said you wanted to get us?
Now you're out of the country.
You're not even part of the debate.
joe rogan
Is it possible that they set those debates up at the same time where they knew that he was going to be out of the country?
sam tripoli
Yeah, but if you run on a campaign and they're like, it's in the heat of the debate, when you like, I can't go right now.
joe rogan
Do you think it's possible that that was a plan?
That they didn't want him there to defend it and it would be easier to shoot it down?
sam tripoli
Yeah, of course.
joe rogan
On purpose.
Yes.
On purpose.
sam tripoli
And when he passed it.
joe rogan
Do you think they scheduled those meetings at a time where they knew that they were going to be doing the debate so they could get out of him having to defend not having lived up to his campaign promises?
sam tripoli
That's my whole opinion.
joe rogan
Well, there's got to be some 3D chess going on, right?
And I know all of it isn't, but there's some really smart people that are involved in the government, obviously.
So they've got to be thinking like, this is a way we can handle this.
Like, there's probably a bunch of nerds in a room and they're brainstorming.
And someone says, listen, here's how we get out of it.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
We send him to Germany and he's not even here.
joe rogan
We say there actually are no files.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
We say there's no video.
Even though he said there's 10,000 hours of video, actually, it's not true.
Those people should not have spoken.
We can't find it.
We don't know where it is.
There's no list.
There's no nothing.
sam tripoli
And I love how, like, when they shoot her just eating a salad, she's perfectly shot.
You can hear everything she's saying.
She's not.
Dude, my whole thing goes, everything is.
joe rogan
Who's eating a salad?
sam tripoli
Pam Bondi.
joe rogan
Oh, she was eating a salad one.
sam tripoli
Yeah, when Veritas or James O'Keefe puts out that video.
joe rogan
What is the video?
sam tripoli
The video is her talking about how there's like tens of thousands of videos of him hurting children.
unidentified
Oh, so that video is comes out like.
joe rogan
But that video is like one of those Veritas type videos.
unidentified
Yes.
sam tripoli
He's O'Keefe.
unidentified
Okay.
sam tripoli
He's still Keith.
He's also the one who put out Karen Bass's phone call about her going talking.
Have you ever heard it?
The super creepy.
joe rogan
Bro, that guy gets everything.
sam tripoli
He gets everything, dude.
joe rogan
Usually chatty gay guys.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
Oh, dude.
All they do is send, listen, send in some ass and they'll give away all the secrets.
joe rogan
So I didn't know that that was how that.
I only read that she said that there was tens of thousands.
sam tripoli
No, she talks about it.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Interesting.
Covertly recorded April 28th revealing previously undisclosed information about Epstein regarding tens of thousands of videos of little kids to a complete stranger in a DC restaurant.
Okay, well, let's hear what it says.
I want to hear how she says it.
jamie vernon
It's going to be a long video.
I got to find it.
sam tripoli
Yeah, it's easy to find because it cuts to her in a cafe.
You'll find it right there.
Just kind of jump, jump.
Oh, there it is.
That's her talking right there.
unidentified
You know, when the Epstein files are going to get released, we hope soon.
Okay.
Sorry.
No, you know what it is?
There are smooth and thousands of lady nerves.
Yeah.
And it's all but little pibs.
So they have to go through every one.
In the past, officials have spoken.
joe rogan
Okay.
She didn't even say underage girls.
She said little kids.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
And that's a big part.
I said this a long time ago is that they're just trying to set it up.
So it's like, dude, they're high school chicks.
You know, they're hot.
And in reality, it's like really, really.
And there were statements, I believe, and you can't find it on the internet anymore because they clean everything up of like people talking about like what Bill Clinton was fooling around with and it wasn't little girls, you know.
And I've always said this, you know, it's like Bill Clinton is the Andy dick of the White House.
He just sees holes.
He wants to hit them, right?
joe rogan
Oh my God.
sam tripoli
You know, he just.
joe rogan
You can't say that if you don't know it's true, though.
sam tripoli
I just did.
joe rogan
You know, he likes to fuck.
He was a good-looking guy when he was young.
Super charismatic.
Love them ladies.
Which is, listen, that's Kennedy.
It's classic presidents.
It's just we found out about bisexual Kennedy.
sam tripoli
Bisexual Georgie.
Yeah, 100%.
Yeah.
But Kenny was bisexual.
unidentified
George Bush Sr. was hold the fuck up.
joe rogan
Where are you getting this from?
sam tripoli
I do deep dives in all this shit.
Joe, I'm telling you.
joe rogan
Where are you diving?
Dude.
sam tripoli
I'm telling you, the Finders.
You remember the Finders?
joe rogan
Was JFK bisexual?
A viral tweet is reigniting speculation.
And he's like.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
I mean, they're just horny.
Dude, he was on speed.
He's a tweeter.
joe rogan
He's a queer history.
sam tripoli
They're just horny ass people.
Woodrow Wilson, they believe they blackmailed him through being gay.
I mean, Obama stuff coming out right now.
Bill Clinton.
joe rogan
So let's think about that, right?
We know that the Spartans were gay, right?
We know that they had sex with each other.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, it was a big thing.
It was part of why they would go to battle so well.
They're fighting for their own.
sam tripoli
You're a joke about the samurais.
Yeah.
You know, back in the day about how they were all gay?
Because you're going to fight harder if you know that dude got some DSLs, right?
You're going to fight way harder.
Don't kill Bill.
He's the best in the bunker.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You're fighting for your lovers.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
Right?
joe rogan
But it's also like there's a lot of ancient cultures that think of having sex with women just for procreation, but with boys for fun.
sam tripoli
That's Afghanistan.
joe rogan
Exactly.
And my friends that have been over there that have served over there, one of my buddies, I don't know if he said this publicly, so maybe I shouldn't say his name.
But just the stories that he told me, I was like, what?
Like, how, like, he was talking about how he saw this truck driver with his son.
He thought, like, oh, that's cool.
He takes his son to work with him.
And the guy goes, that's not his son.
Like, that's his toy.
sam tripoli
It's called Man Love Thursdays, dude.
Yeah, but it's not just Thursday.
joe rogan
My friend was telling me that there was this one guy that was, he worked on this base and he was kind of slow.
Like he was mentally slow.
And he got a colostomy bag.
And he heard a bunch of noise and saw a bunch of dudes in the room, like in one of the storage rooms.
These guys were fucking his colostomy hole.
This old, mentally challenged guy.
Yep.
And these dudes were fucking his colostomy hole.
He's like, bro.
sam tripoli
I just had a guy on right now.
This is going to get weird, but Dom the Hypnotist came on and he was talking about how he has a mentor who he also works with who was Hillary Clinton's security detail.
And they were in Afghanistan.
They saw a bunch of kids go in the room and never come out.
joe rogan
What does that mean?
sam tripoli
That they like three in the morning.
joe rogan
This is Bachabazi, right?
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is kids dancing and shit.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
That is so silly.
sam tripoli
And they were told, like, don't interfere with the local customs.
joe rogan
Yeah, but are you implying that they are dead?
sam tripoli
I'm implying that he never saw them come out.
joe rogan
Maybe they took a nap.
sam tripoli
Maybe there's another extra.
joe rogan
That's a story.
He gave you some cookies and milk.
sam tripoli
Go to bed.
Let them sleep.
We got to check out.
Let them sleep.
joe rogan
They'll figure it out.
The creepiest idea about pedophilia is that there's people that know about it and cover it up because they don't want to get in trouble for having known about it.
Like, this is a Sandusky thing, right?
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, I mean, that's essentially what tanked Joe Paterno, right?
Like, everybody really knew.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
And they all let it go because they were winning football games.
And then Penn State's right back into title context.
But here's the thing, dude.
Over time, what they can blackmail you with changes.
Like way back in the day, if they thought you were cheating on your wife, they could blackmail you with that.
But as culture grows and we start accepting more and more stuff, it's got to get weirder and weirder.
You know, back in the day, you remember, I mean, we're around the same age.
I mean, you remember when we were debating whether boy George was gay or not, and they were like, we were like, we were having, there was like a real discussion on that.
And he's like, no, dude, I pop, dude.
joe rogan
How about George Michael?
Same thing.
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100%.
joe rogan
He's so beautiful.
There's no way he could be straight.
His hair was so perfect.
His voice was so amazing.
That guy's got to be super gay.
sam tripoli
Have you seen the Minnesota Vikings male cheerleader?
That is the shiniest dude I've ever seen.
joe rogan
Show me this.
sam tripoli
He's a male cheerleader.
joe rogan
Shane was actually just talking about this.
Shane was talking about this in the green room the other day.
sam tripoli
Yeah, he's shiny, dude.
joe rogan
Shiny?
sam tripoli
Oh, so shiny, dude.
joe rogan
Oh, my goodness.
sam tripoli
Yeah, he's so, and you can see him on Twitter.
He's just like dancing around, and he's the shiniest dude you've ever seen.
joe rogan
He's got the skirt?
They wear the skirt?
jamie vernon
I guess.
sam tripoli
Yeah, there he is in the front row.
joe rogan
He's got shorts there.
Okay.
sam tripoli
Cheerleaders are useless, anyways.
There's really no purpose of them.
They don't do anything for the game.
It was back in the day, how can we have hot chicks in football?
joe rogan
It's a weird role, and I don't have a problem with a gay guy doing that.
sam tripoli
Well, here's my opinion.
joe rogan
But why would I care?
Right?
Like, here's the thing.
If you're in a stadium of 16,000 people, football is like 70,000.
60,000 people.
sam tripoli
Right, right.
joe rogan
I'm thinking of a basketball game.
If you're in a football stadium, 80,000 people, how many gays?
How many gay guys are there?
sam tripoli
10%.
We'll go 10%.
joe rogan
It's probably 10%.
sam tripoli
70,000 people.
joe rogan
Maybe a bunch of them are hiding.
Maybe a bunch of people are dangerous people.
But it's always kind of like one in 10, right?
sam tripoli
Closeted gays can get dangerous, dude.
joe rogan
What's the problem with having one gay cheerleader for them?
sam tripoli
You know, here's my whole thing.
joe rogan
What's the cheerleader for?
sam tripoli
You know, there's always going to be the fight.
What is the point of a cheerleader?
joe rogan
Does it have an additional visual aspect to it?
I like all the flips they do and all the jazz, and it's fun.
It's choreographed.
And when it's done well, it's entertaining.
sam tripoli
Yeah, I mean, Gary Goldman has a great bit about it, about what their purpose is, to like remind the players how important they can play is, right?
He's like, you know, defense.
Oh, dude, we got to play defense, dude.
You know?
joe rogan
It's extra pageantry that adds to the experience.
But why shouldn't a gay guy be doing it?
Like, how many, how homophobic are guys that are watching that?
There's all these hot chicks, and instead they're caught, what's this fucking guy doing in his shorts?
There's 16 other girls with perfect bodies you could be paying attention to, but you're focused on the gay guy.
sam tripoli
Yeah, and they always complain about how much money they're making.
I'm like, dude, you get to go to the game for free.
You're on the field.
joe rogan
It's like he would have a great reality show.
See how they accept it.
sam tripoli
And how many download players are staring at him, dude?
Sure.
That's my favorite player.
joe rogan
10% is 10%.
sam tripoli
Yeah, 10%.
So here's my whole thing, dude.
You know, there's always going to be culture wars between the right and the left.
I'm on nobody's side.
Like, I'm on nobody.
I'm like in the middle.
I'm old school liberal.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sam tripoli
Live and let live.
As long as you're not hurting people, and particularly children, you'll never hear anything from me.
I don't care what you do.
Buy yourself with consenting adults.
Get as weird as you want.
God gave us free will.
Do whatever you want.
Pick your path.
You know, but when you start to demonize certain people, you're setting up a market for blackmail.
So when people can't be themselves and they're so afraid of people finding out who they really are, you're setting it up so people can manipulate them.
And that's the story of Washington, D.C. Now, obviously, hurting children, there should never be a time where that's culturally acceptable.
But that's why it's had to get so dark is because we don't care if somebody's gay now.
It's like, at least I don't.
joe rogan
I think it's like they just always want to do the forbidden thing.
So like, what would lead someone, let's get as dark as we can get.
What's the darkest?
Probably child sacrificing.
sam tripoli
Oh, yeah, 100%.
100%.
joe rogan
And I think that that's happened before.
I don't think that that has not happened in human histories.
In fact, I know it's happened because my friend Shane Smith covered it when he was over in Africa when he interviewed that general butt naked guy.
That guy used to sacrifice children from the enemy tribes before everyone in Liberia.
He would sacrifice them and cut open their chest and eat their heart.
He would eat a piece of their heart before going into battle.
sam tripoli
Dark energy, dude.
joe rogan
Right, but that's a real human being that did that.
So we know that this, he didn't invent that.
He didn't invent that.
sam tripoli
No, I mean, it's in the Bible, too.
Like when they want to take out the Canaanites and, you know, atheists use that as like, oh, he wants to kill all the women and children.
What do you think about that?
Well, the Canaanites were practicing child sacrifice.
There's a reason why.
Now, the language, we can get into like the Bible language, especially in the First Testament, like, is it the language of the time?
And they were a lot more blunt with it.
But the Canaanites were sacrificing children.
I mean, that's a big part of, it goes all the way back to Kronos, the first God, which is the God of time.
And the whole story about it was told that his kids would slay him.
So every time his female would have children, he would eat the kids.
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Jesus.
sam tripoli
Time.
Black Cube of Saturn.
It get weird.
joe rogan
I wonder how they're going to look at some of the things that pharmaceutical drug companies have pushed through in the future and the impact that it had on kids and whether or not they're going to think of that in a similar way to child sacrifice.
Because it really is kind of, if you know that it's causing damage, but you're doing it for money, you kind of sacrifice 100% for money.
sam tripoli
What is this?
joe rogan
How to stop India's superstitious killings ended in exile.
What's this about, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Read the caption there.
joe rogan
Oh, just cover it up.
Human sacrifice, particularly that of minors, has been prevalent in many parts of India for a long time.
Jeez.
More than 85 kids, all under 13, were ritualistically murdered in the country in the last six years per government data.
Last year, there were 14 cases of parents or relatives sacrificing or attempting to sacrifice children on the advice of a sadhu, a holy man.
jamie vernon
Bro.
sam tripoli
Bro, that gets in the hospital.
joe rogan
How crazy is it that that was a part of history?
Art is still happening.
That's what I'm saying.
Like that it's still in 2025, people think that sacrificing a child is the right move.
That's what we need to do.
We need to sacrifice a child.
sam tripoli
Well, that's the whole thing.
Kids are the closest to God.
joe rogan
Yeah.
When you think about like things like that, like drugs that are pushed on kids that's just for profit, medications that kids are forced to take that's just for profit, things that are fucking them up.
It's just because people want to make money.
And how are they going to look at that in the future?
You know, when we look at child sacrifice and they were doing voodoo or the Mayans thought they were sacrificing people to the gods, we think of it as barbaric, right?
How are they going to look at what we've done where we just lied about stuff and skirted around the truth and gave distorted versions of what we're actually selling to kids?
And then those kids wind up dying.
They wind up having heart attacks.
They wind up having cancer.
And it's probably directly Related to this medication.
And no one wants to take credit for it.
No one wants to admit it.
And everyone's making money.
sam tripoli
Everything's programming, dude.
Even those people in India, their programming of their religion tells them to sacrifice their own children.
I mean, like, it goes against everything you're wiring.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like that's the ultimate control you have over a person.
You get them to sacrifice their child.
sam tripoli
Right?
I mean, if you're at a kid's park and a kid's in trouble, it doesn't need to be your kid.
You run over to make sure the kid's okay.
I've done it a thousand times.
But now you have people like, especially like if you look at what's going on in Gaza, you have people labeling newborns as terrorists.
Like that is your programming overriding your basic instinct, which is to protect children at all costs because they are the future.
And that's powerful, powerful, powerful.
So my whole theory is that that anxiety and depression and anger and all that stuff comes from when you're programming and your reality clash and they don't meet up.
You're programming from generational trauma, your programming from school, all that stuff meets reality and you start to just go a little crazy.
And I think a lot of that is purposeful to get us on pharmaceuticals for life.
joe rogan
You think it's purposeful.
So how would they engineer that to happen that way?
sam tripoli
Well, first of all, your grandparents, your parents telling you the trauma of your past, beating that into you forever.
Like I had my buddy's girlfriend on my show and she's Jewish and she was telling me, I go, what's it like to grow up Jewish?
And she was telling me that her parents would tell her that she has to have three kids, one for each parent and then one kid lost for the Holocaust for a so-and-lost in the Holocaust.
And like, think about that programming, dude.
Think about what that over and over and over again and to the point now where you're like, well, you know, these kids in Gaza are terrorists.
I mean, newborn babies are terrorists.
I mean, that is heavy stuff.
I mean, I've heard about the Armenian genocide my whole life to the point I got a tattoo right here about it.
You know, like that is, you know, that is, that is your programming.
Then you go to school and it's been infiltrated by all these culture Marxists and they're just pushing this thing to get you to hate your own country, hate the establishment, hate all this stuff.
So you have this entire country where everybody's fighting with each other.
And that's all done to cause, you know, maximum chaos because people are easy to manipulate and control when they're in anxiety.
They're going to demand, like this whole thing with like taking over Washington, D.C. right now.
Everyone acts like this has just started.
This started way back with BLM to fund the cops.
This has always been the goal.
It's called pressure from above, pressure from below.
You're afraid to go on the streets and you have no faith that your politicians are going to save you.
So you have no hope.
So you're completely and utterly lost and you're just demanding that you be kept safe, which is the ultimate goal, which is martial law.
That's what they want.
And that's what they've been doing.
And it isn't starting in Washington, D.C. This started a while ago.
If you study all these different kind of cultural clashes, that starts with BLM, that's black people.
Then you go January 6th, that's white people.
Then you go to Asian hate, that's Asian people.
Then you go to No Kings, that's Latinos.
And now you have the Supreme Court that is going to debate the legality of gay marriage.
And if you go, Sam, what do you think is going to happen?
I wouldn't doubt if they overturn it because that's going to cause even more chaos.
The streets are going to be burning in rainbows, dude.
And then that is what they want, martial law.
There's all these law, you know, these judges who are completely politicized are like releasing people who are hurting kids or murdering people.
That means you have no faith in the system.
And that grows your anxiety.
Now, all of a sudden, you're angry, you're depressed, and you just, you don't trust anything.
And now you want to basically give up your God-given rights to be safe.
And that is the goal.
Pressure from above, pressure from below for Marxists.
If you ever want to watch a doc on it, it's really old.
It's in 69.
I watched it last night on Twitter.
It's G.A.G.R.
Griffin, and it's called Capitalist Conspiracy.
I've sent to a bunch of people.
I can't get anybody to watch this thing.
And it breaks it down, dude.
There was famous cases in the, like, the 50s and 60s where kids were like radical communists on the campuses and they said that something's going wrong here and they broke off and they gave they testify in front of either congress or senate and they basically said the goal is to basically bring in martial law and these kids who are all think they're raging against the machine they don't realize the machine is funding all of this stuff that you know it's like the no kings right when it came the latinos are really smart
Like when Eddie and I do shows all the time, there's tons of Mexicans, tons of Latinos in the crowd.
They get conspiracies.
So when No Kings was happening in LA, there were like gang leaders who told their entire block, nobody can go to these things because they all found out it was funded by the Walmart era.
Like that's what always happens.
The billionaires fund these kind of radical groups to sow chaos.
joe rogan
Well, also because they don't want that kind of crackdown on illegal immigration.
Like there's a lot of people who don't want that kind of crackdown.
sam tripoli
Yeah, because they don't want to pay anything.
joe rogan
Well, there's that, and they're already hiring people that are illegals, and they have them working in their factories and working in their businesses.
You know, I mean, and then there was, there's also the dispute about SNA, about, you know, cutting back on Medicaid and SNAP and like who get who has to who do you have to pay benefits to?
Who do you not have to pay benefits to?
That was one of the things that this guy was telling me about.
Someone told him that he had a conversation.
He had a conversation with someone who said he's really upset they're stopping illegal immigration because it's a big part of what he uses for his business.
And he was like open about it.
And he was saying that he does it because he doesn't have to pay them benefits.
You can pay them less and you don't have to pay him benefits.
Like he was just saying it out loud.
You know, so that was part of the thing too of letting people into the country.
There was like, you need more of a supply of people that are willing to do the construction jobs and the, you know, the slaughterhouse jobs, like jobs that nobody wants to work in the slaughterhouse, dude.
You know, like that's.
sam tripoli
But I also hear them most always say, Americans don't want to do this job.
And then my fat ass is going to fucking Wendy's at 11 p.m.
And I'm ordering a chicken sandwich.
The guy handed me the bag is 55 years old.
I mean, Americans want to work.
That's a whole psyop that they don't want to do some of these.
joe rogan
Sure.
But those jobs are brutal, backbreaking labor.
If you're picking vegetables, if you're, you know, you're working in a fucking slaughterhouse, dude, that's a brutal job.
You're around rotten meat all day.
sam tripoli
Yeah, I get it.
joe rogan
It's freezing cold.
You're cutting things up.
You're covered in blood.
You're just around death all day long.
Death is supposed to be something you occasionally see.
You fucking kiss it to the sky.
Thank God for the deer.
And then you go, you're not supposed to see slaughter 24 hours a day.
sam tripoli
That's crazy.
joe rogan
That's like not normal for a human being.
sam tripoli
And what's really weird is how like I've seen so much death in movies that when I see a dead person, which I think the first time I saw a dead person, I would be incredibly shocked.
I remember I was driving home from Vegas with my then-girlfriend, and there was a giant car crash.
Like a giant car.
I mean, it was nasty.
She's like, don't get out of the car.
And I'm like, I'm a hero.
And I get out of the car to see what's everything's okay.
And this one card flipped.
And there was somebody laying there and the car was on top.
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Oh.
sam tripoli
And somebody ran over with a car jack to like get it up.
I go, you're going to look at something you're not ready to see right now.
It's like, it's done.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sam tripoli
But what I was blown away by was how not affected by seeing that.
I was, like, it's the first time I'd seen, like, outside of a funeral, I'd seen a dead body like that just had a violent ending.
joe rogan
Why do you think you weren't affected by it?
sam tripoli
Because I think I've seen so many movies where I've just seen dead people that it just was like a movie to me.
And I didn't have any reaction to it.
When the first days I moved to L.A., you know, I've lived in L.A. since 98, 99.
And like, I was back there in the crazy days on Hollywood Boulevard where it was still thriving.
And there was this weird store.
And inside, you could smell death.
And I looked in and there was something laying down there.
And again, not affected by it.
I go, I think that's a dead body.
And the guy's like, get out of there.
There's no dead body.
Go away.
But it smelled like death.
But I still was really amazed.
That was probably the first time I saw a Dead Body.
Then this was the second one.
But I was just amazed by not how affected I was by seeing this.
Like I'd been programmed and conditioned to see these things, which normally back in the day would be a giant moment.
joe rogan
I think a lot of people would be horrified by it.
Maybe you're hardened by life, my man.
sam tripoli
Man, I've had a.
joe rogan
I think a lot of people would be pretty horrified.
I don't know if it's necessarily deconditioning for movies.
sam tripoli
Well, I can tell you something.
So I used to do USO tours.
And the first time I go, I think it was with Brian Callan this time.
No, that wasn't my first one, but I do.
Yeah, that was the first one.
I do it with Steve Byrne, Dev David Off, and Brian Callen.
And we had this very nice man who was showing us around.
He was our kind of our leader of our tour.
And he was telling me that in World War I, they found that the guys couldn't shoot the enemy because they didn't want to kill them.
They didn't have it in them to kill another human being.
So he says, that's when you start to see in movies guns coming out and shooting people.
It's programming.
And that's when it got real way easier to start shooting people.
Now you got these video games where you're just going in somewhere and you're murking everybody.
joe rogan
In movies.
sam tripoli
In movies, in video games.
joe rogan
Tons of movies, tons of video games.
We were just talking about that the other day when you see people getting in fights, like in parking lots and shit.
It's almost like people think life is a movie.
Like you don't really understand what a fight is, like how dangerous it is and scary it is.
And you're doing it like it's like you're in a movie.
And I wonder how much of that is because people have seen people fight in movies.
And they just don't understand how crazy it is when there's no rules and you're just hoping this guy fights worse than you do.
You have no idea.
You don't know what you're doing.
You're probably drunk and high.
sam tripoli
What about having all the movies?
joe rogan
You think you're in a movie?
You think you're in a fucking movie, man?
sam tripoli
What about all the women that now are kicking everybody's ass?
I'm flying here and every movie is a waif model beating the shit out of a fucking 300-pound Russian.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
sam tripoli
Every movie is.
And then you see videos where girls just go up and start swinging on guys.
And I'm like, it was Brian Holtzman's bit that he used to do way back in the day.
joe rogan
About Charlie's Angels.
Yeah, I remember that.
sam tripoli
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That was a great bit.
That was a great bit.
Holtzman's the best.
It's so nice having him out here.
sam tripoli
I love him.
joe rogan
He's so crazy.
sam tripoli
I want to get out of here.
joe rogan
He's the best.
But yeah, that's a crazy thing to show in movies.
I mean, it's one thing if the woman has like superpowers, but if it's just a regular galaxy.
250-pound Russian dude with a neck as big as my waist.
Like, what are we talking about?
This is crazy.
You're not going to hurt him at all if you hit him.
sam tripoli
I was watching on the fly over, I was watching the latest Mission Impossible, and it's insane, dude.
Have you ever seen it?
joe rogan
I haven't seen it.
sam tripoli
It's amazing, bro.
Oh, dude, it just gets cranked up, cranked up, cranked up.
But there's like two chicks in there that couldn't weigh more than 100 pounds beating shit out of everybody.
And I'm like, this isn't, you need a cyborg type chick.
joe rogan
Right, right.
sam tripoli
If you're going to have somebody like Bill Lenny, flatlining.
No necks.
Cyborg?
Like that woman.
Cyborg is like the Wilt Chamberlain of female MMA, where like you could drop her 20 years in the future and she'd still be murking people because she's like that well built and she's that skilled.
But that's who would be doing it.
Not like 100 pound women.
joe rogan
No.
Kayla Harrison.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
She could fuck up some dudes.
sam tripoli
How was she?
135, 145?
joe rogan
Well, she has to weigh 135 for a very small amount of time, but she was the 155-pound champ in the PFL.
She's a big lady.
Yeah, she's jacked.
sam tripoli
She's a juggernaut.
joe rogan
She's super powerful.
And when she gets a hold of these ladies, it's like the difference is so obvious.
She's so fucking strong, man.
So if that lady was in a movie fucking people up, I'd be like, oh, yeah, totally makes sense.
I believe it.
sam tripoli
If I was a henchman, I'd be like, I'm running.
joe rogan
This bitch is some supermodel waif in eight-inch heels is fucking throwing sidekicks that are perfect.
Like, come the fuck on.
Stop.
sam tripoli
I used to have a joke about Kiera Knightley and Pirates of the Caribbean.
She's like fighting everybody.
I'm like, the only thing that chick's fighting is anorexia.
You know what I'm saying?
There we go.
Working bits in.
unidentified
Yeah.
sam tripoli
So, you know, it's just everything's programming, dude.
joe rogan
Well, it is, but I wonder if it's because we like that stuff, because it fits in our head.
Like Joseph Campbell's, Joseph Campbell's a hero's journey.
Like, it fits in our head.
We want someone to kick their ass, and then you win in the end.
Yeah, you go through your trials, and he hit her.
Oh, my God, she's bleeding, but she kicks his ass.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
There's this thing that we want to see.
We want it all nicely tied up in a bow.
sam tripoli
I mean, like Sigourney Weaver used to do it, but there was something about her where you believed it.
You're like, that's a bad bitch, and she's going to fuck people up.
joe rogan
But she did it in the greatest science fiction movie of all time.
She did it in Alien.
Alien is the greatest sci-fi horror.
I'll say sci-fi horror.
Greatest sci-fi horror of all time.
And you didn't even care that it was a woman that was the lead.
It didn't even come up.
It was so awesome that no one like made a big deal.
Sigourney Weaver, finally a woman takes the lead road.
And that shit.
No one cared.
No one cared.
It was just awesome.
It was just awesome.
She was awesome.
The movie was awesome.
She got credit for being awesome, but just for being awesome.
Not an awesome woman.
No caveats.
sam tripoli
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, come on.
You could do that in 1979.
You could just have an amazing movie because there was no fucking social media.
There was no hen house.
unidentified
*Evil noises*
joe rogan
And you think that they make sense?
They don't make any sense.
Like, stop.
We could just stop concentrating on fucking these stupid little classifications of each individual and whether or not they should be elevated and magnified because of gender or sex or color.
Stop.
Everyone stop participating in it.
It's dumb.
Meritocracy.
Meritocracy for personality.
Meritocracy for the way you can hold a conversation with people.
Meritocracy for being a better musician.
Meritocracy for being a funnier comedian.
Meritocracy.
Everybody's the same.
Even playing field in terms of acceptance of what you do in the world.
Just do your best.
sam tripoli
Yeah, we want the best.
joe rogan
Let the best rise everywhere.
sam tripoli
I don't know because maybe we didn't know as much about it, but like when I think of this.
joe rogan
It would be happier if someone who looked like you came to save you from the fire.
100%.
sam tripoli
I couldn't give a shit.
A lesbian.
joe rogan
They'll be more comfortable if they see someone looking like them.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
What?
No, my house is on fire.
I'm not going to be comfortable.
What are you talking about?
You can't carry me.
I broke my leg.
What do I do?
unidentified
Well, you should have thought about that before you got in the wrong place.
sam tripoli
It's crazy.
Like, Apple TV is putting out insanely great programming, but you don't realize how woke it is until you're already captured, right?
And then you're like, whoa, what did I just watch?
Like, I was watching Hijack, and I forget the name of the actor.
joe rogan
Is that a Marky Mark movie?
sam tripoli
No, no, no.
It was a TV show on Apple TV.
And it was the black British actor who was in The Wire.
I forget what his name is.
He's such a great.
jamie vernon
Degrees Eldo.
sam tripoli
Yeah, he's phenomenal, right?
joe rogan
He's awesome and everything.
sam tripoli
But I'm watching this show, and about five episodes in, I realize this is a story of a black man who stops white hijackers from hijacking a Middle Eastern plane.
joe rogan
What?
unidentified
What?
sam tripoli
And you don't realize it till you're halfway in.
joe rogan
What is the Mark Wahlberg one?
The one that Mel Gibson directed.
That one was good.
That was another, like, some sort of a hijacking type situation, right?
What's it called?
Flight Risk?
Flight Risk.
Solid one.
sam tripoli
Yep.
joe rogan
Wahlberg plays a great psycho.
sam tripoli
Wahlberg is crazy.
joe rogan
He's got some darkness behind the eyes.
He plays a great psycho.
sam tripoli
He's also very lucky.
Didn't get on a plane on 9-11.
How lucky is that guy?
joe rogan
What do you try to say?
He got a heads up?
sam tripoli
I'm just saying.
joe rogan
How about people who just get lucky sometimes?
sam tripoli
Some people, him and Seth.
Who did Family Guy?
Seth.
joe rogan
Originally scheduled to be on American Airlines Flight 11.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
He changed his plans, took a different flight to Toronto, Canada for a film festival instead.
Later made comments how he would have fought back against the hijackers if he had been on the street.
sam tripoli
Yeah, I don't buy that story.
Not his story.
I'd buy he would fight back.
I mean, he's shredded at this point.
He's still shredded, but I don't buy that whole thing.
They had box cutters.
Come on, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, what do you think happened?
Do you think that it Was like automatically flown into the towers, like it was remote flown into the towers.
sam tripoli
Oh, well, now you're getting into like high-impact events and how there's like layers.
There's so many layers to it because they have to ensure but the actual hijacking itself.
joe rogan
Do you think that those guys that we found luckily, it was like an amazing coincidence that even though everything from the plane was destroyed in an incredible burning inferno, his passport magically floated safely to the ground?
Was it singed at all?
Was it even singed?
sam tripoli
I have a show called Doom Scrolling where we just watch all these conspiracy videos and one of them Passport Man, where they made a superhero just out of passports.
joe rogan
I mean, let's watch.
I mean, not to make light of a tragedy, but could we see the impact of one of the planes into the towers?
jamie vernon
They found four of the hijackers' passports.
joe rogan
Oh, what a coincidence.
Well, sometimes you just get lucky, and maybe God was looking out for us.
Can you show me the video of the impact?
Can we just see the video?
Let's just imagine being a passport and saying, listen, it's your job.
You're not a little bit of a bottom game.
All the other people on board with passports, their passports, for whatever reason, didn't make it.
unidentified
Burn up.
joe rogan
Yeah, all those American citizens with passports.
Yeah, they didn't make it.
sam tripoli
So we can get into it, dude.
joe rogan
All those people from other countries that were just here on vacation with their passports.
Yeah, those passports didn't make it.
Just going to check out New York should be cool.
Nope.
So let's watch the impact.
Watch this.
And imagine if you're a passport and you got to do your job.
Here it goes.
What happened?
unidentified
I don't know.
jamie vernon
I'm not controlling it.
joe rogan
Oh, that's what it did?
Oh, they're not showing you the impact?
unidentified
I don't know.
jamie vernon
It showed it.
joe rogan
These sons of bitches.
But I want to see the real one when it like flies.
sam tripoli
Yeah, where you see it go bang and then it's.
joe rogan
Yeah, see if you can find a video where it flies right into it.
jamie vernon
So only one of those four were found at the World Trade Center.
The other three were not there.
joe rogan
How about 18 views of Plane Impact on South Tower?
This is like, you know, those cum compilations on porn.
sam tripoli
Oh, dude.
It's the only thing I just watch it.
By the way, 26 days off porn, everybody.
joe rogan
Look at this.
sam tripoli
27.
joe rogan
Okay, that one, it flew into the back side of it, so you couldn't see it from that angle.
sam tripoli
But you have that one where it's kind of up like here, and then it goes in, and then it like, it's some weird.
joe rogan
Okay, here it is.
Let's watch this one.
Okay, so no, we're seeing it from the other side, too.
But I've seen it from the other way.
I've seen the plane actually fly in.
Someone had that angle, right?
sam tripoli
Yeah, it's from below up.
joe rogan
Is that it right there, John?
Try that.
Try that real quick.
I know, I'm just saying.
That's it.
Okay, that's it.
sam tripoli
Yeah, if you slow that thing down.
joe rogan
But look, there's some papers flying out.
Look.
Boom.
And look at all the papers.
That ain't papers.
That's glass, bitch.
There's no way a passport is making it through that.
First of all, there's nothing left.
That's just goo and incineration and fire and jet fuel.
And the jets had just taken off, correct?
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
And so they had a full, they took off from Boston, which is very close.
sam tripoli
Very close.
joe rogan
And so they had a lot of gasoline.
How the fuck's a passport?
How many passports were saved?
jamie vernon
One was found below the World Trade Center.
Two were found in the crash site in Pennsylvania, and one was found in luggage that didn't even make the connecting flight.
joe rogan
Okay, well, that's different.
And then the fire is the big one.
The crash.
One fire.
That one's like, that's the magic bullet on steroids.
sam tripoli
That's crazy.
And then somehow it took out those two, and then two other buildings.
Nobody talks about building five.
joe rogan
Okay, here's a big one.
The one that the Let's Roll, the Litz Roll one.
They shot that out of the sky, right?
sam tripoli
I mean, I have theories.
joe rogan
But doesn't that one seem like they shot that one out of the sky?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because that one is weird because the wreckage is spread out for miles.
Not like it crashed into the ground, but like it got shot out of the sky and slowly drifted to Earth going 500 miles an hour.
Yeah, and then what is this?
That's his passport?
jamie vernon
I mean, that's a passport.
I'm just 9-11.
Is that his passports that I looked up?
joe rogan
Do they actually have the photo of it?
jamie vernon
That's a pretty burnt passport.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's pretty burnt, but come on.
sam tripoli
How about how weird is that that in Neo's driver's license is The day of the attack.
joe rogan
Also, like, what would cause a passport that's on fire to not be on fire anymore?
Just curious.
Why would it stop at his face?
Just curious.
I mean, once things are on fire and they're made out of paper and plastic, generally they don't stop being on fire until there's nothing else to burn.
How does it stop right to his face?
sam tripoli
Well, how about all these fire?
This is the big debate on Tim Fall hat.
We debate it all the time.
You have all these houses that are insinuated, and then there's all these trees that are perfectly fine.
So then you get into the debate, like what causes a fire?
Oh, it's drought.
Okay, but why are the trees okay?
Because they have water in them.
Well, are we in a drought or do we have water?
And that's when you get into vibrations, dude.
Like higher, you know, like vibrations.
Like radio waves and stuff like that.
That's that they can, dude, everyone thinks it's a direct.
That's a big part of this, that people think it's direct energy weather.
joe rogan
You think fires are caused by radio waves?
Is what you're saying?
sam tripoli
Like, like, you know, well, some people going down a radio.
Okay, so I wanted to tell you this story.
So right around the paradise fires, right after that, Eddie and I are doing Tim Fall Hat.
We do Bakersfield first, and then we go to Sacramento.
In both, both shows, someone from PSG shows up.
What's PG, P, PG, PSE, what is the PG ⁇ E, excuse me?
The people who have the smart meters on all of these houses.
They're the ones who run the electricity and the power for all of California.
First show we do in Fred in Bakersfield, a bunch of guys who look like Zero Dark 30 show up.
They're like, yeah, we work at PG ⁇ E. I'm like, oh, that's super interesting because that just happened.
Then the next night I'm in Sacramento, and I remember this very well because it was the last night I ever drank alcohol ever in my life.
There was some hop-on with a fat rack.
And I'm like, today's my sobriety goes away.
So I have a shot with her.
She tells me she's from PG ⁇ E. So both nights in a row, we have people show up to our show from this company that everybody says could be behind it with these smart meters.
Okay.
joe rogan
Can I ask you a question before you go on?
sam tripoli
How big were Tits?
joe rogan
This is you're in Bakersfield.
Is that what you're saying?
sam tripoli
The first show is Bakersfield.
That's where the Sacramento.
joe rogan
And where did these people work?
Where's their building?
sam tripoli
I mean, PG ⁇ E's all over California.
joe rogan
Right.
sam tripoli
So they were at different offices.
joe rogan
Both of those places a lot of people don't go to, right?
Like it's when you like when people go, when we do a show in Bakersfield, back when I lived in LA, I'd be like, holy shit, someone came out here.
Like no one goes out there.
So that's, I would imagine if you're at PG ⁇ E and you're stuck in some podunk fucking town.
sam tripoli
I mean, it's possible.
It's very weird that two shows in two nights.
I'm just saying it's super interesting.
joe rogan
It's a little weird, but it's also, it's like those people that work for these organizations.
They're probably just regular people living lives and they like your show.
sam tripoli
I like conspiracies.
joe rogan
I never think that's a good thing.
I just like to put the brakes on some of them.
So the radio waves causing fires is going to be a problem.
sam tripoli
Okay.
joe rogan
So Wednesday, Pacific Gas and Electric revealed to a federal judge that its utility equipment issues may have caused fires in some California counties, including Kern County.
According to the court documents, May 30th and 31st, Bell Ridge fire burned 53 acres after a power line fell, causing the grass to catch on fire.
The documents also said that PG ⁇ E worker had identified a broken tie wire, but was not fixed in time.
So this is from 2019, right?
So caused fires, including Fresno, Mariposa, and Butte.
Yeah.
sam tripoli
So I had somebody hit me up one time and they were talking about how there's a weird percentage that insurance companies do on whether your house could catch on fire.
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sam tripoli
And fire insurance stuff like that.
joe rogan
It's brutal in California now.
You can't get fire insurance.
sam tripoli
Well, she was telling me that everyone on her block had like a really high rating except for her house.
And I go, well, does your house have a smart meter on it?
She goes, no, I'm the only one on the block that doesn't have a smart meter on it.
She goes, holy shit, right?
So what's really interesting about the Sacramento show, besides the big-titted PG ⁇ E person or the whatever, is I'm outside on the balcony, right?
I'm outside in the patio talking to everybody after a show, and this woman comes up to me, and she goes, you know, I live in paradise.
I go, really?
I go, what happens?
She goes, I have to tell you this story.
She goes, I was just chilling there, like on her porch or something like that, and she looked up and she saw this like silver cigar thing in the sky, right?
The silver cigar thing.
And she said lights are going back and forth, back and forth.
And this is right before the fires, back and forth.
And then she said, suddenly the lights all just went, boom, and then there were fires everywhere.
And I stopped thinking about this story a long time ago.
Then suddenly videos now are popping up all over Twitter.
If you go to my Twitter, SamTripoli.com, there's a video right now of a guy playing catch with his dog, and he throws the frisbee.
And when the kick, the dog goes up to grab the frisbee, suddenly you see something just fly through the air that is a silver-like cigar-looking thing.
joe rogan
Okay, let me see this video because there was a time where Eddie Bravo and I got way too high and we thought that rods were flying through the air.
We watched this documentary on rods.
Do you remember rods?
sam tripoli
No.
joe rogan
Okay.
You got into conspiracies a little later, son.
sam tripoli
I've always been in conspiracy.
joe rogan
This was one of the dumb ones.
This is a really dumb one.
So there's these things that supposedly flew so fast through the sky that you could only see them in video footage.
You couldn't see them with the naked eye.
Turns out what it was was bugs flying quickly close through where the lens is, and it's a video artifact.
So it stretches these bugs out and makes them look like rods that are flying through the air.
It's just because the video is not that good.
So there was a show, I forget the show, something finding monsters or something like that on the history channel, I believe.
One of those shows.
You know those shows?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they were trying to find out what rods were.
So they set up cameras, just try to see if they could capture them and film.
And then they set up a super high-speed camera in the same location.
And they did it over like a little campfire so that bugs would be flying around.
And every, I think it was a campfire.
Whatever, some kind of a light where bugs were flying around.
And then they were filming it.
And then on the high-speed camera, you could clearly see it was bugs.
But on the low-speed camera, it looked like aliens.
Like these things are long, tubular things that we've never identified flying through the air, but it's just video artifacts.
sam tripoli
Okay.
This thing slows it down.
It doesn't look like a bug.
joe rogan
Let's see it.
sam tripoli
Did you find it?
It was like one of the newer videos I put out.
joe rogan
What do you think it is?
Think it's a UFO?
unidentified
It kind of looks like a bug.
sam tripoli
Well, I don't believe in UFOs.
joe rogan
Oh.
sam tripoli
Well, then, if it's identified crafts that have been going 200 miles an hour before the Civil War, here it is.
joe rogan
Give me a moment.
unidentified
We'll talk about that.
jamie vernon
Okay, so it isn't real.
unidentified
Okay.
jamie vernon
It's real time.
Here's a dog.
joe rogan
Bro, that dog's gangster.
That's a good steep ledge.
sam tripoli
Did you see it?
Okay.
joe rogan
Okay, let me see it again.
sam tripoli
And then just let it play because it shows you what it is.
unidentified
Okay.
jamie vernon
That looks like a bug.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Let me see.
joe rogan
Sam, that's a bug.
sam tripoli
You think that's a bug?
Okay, he's going to slow it down.
joe rogan
I think it's a fast-moving bug.
Do you think that there's that thing behind it?
Is that the inability of the video to catch it?
Because it doesn't seem like it because the video is catching it.
I don't know enough about high-speed filming or about what this is, the slow-mo filming.
Man, the blurry shit behind it's weird.
jamie vernon
What blurry shit?
joe rogan
You know, where it looks like it almost has like a jet coming out of the back.
sam tripoli
I think that's all part of it.
joe rogan
What do you think that is, Jamie?
unidentified
It's a bug.
joe rogan
Right, but what's that trail behind it?
sam tripoli
You think that's a bug?
jamie vernon
The wings.
Looks like a fucking.
joe rogan
Yeah, as it's moving fast.
So it's stretched out as a video artifact, just like the rods thing.
jamie vernon
I wouldn't even say a full video art.
It just looks like the wings of a bug, and it's like, there's the body, and it's got some giant wings.
joe rogan
I don't know.
Man, but what kind of bug looks like that?
And what kind of bug moves that fast from here?
But I mean, I think it's a perspective thing.
I think the bug moves.
Bugs move pretty fucking fast.
Yeah, but bugs moving fast in the right direction.
sam tripoli
And that far away.
joe rogan
It's so little.
sam tripoli
You're going to see it so little.
joe rogan
It's so little that as it passes by, it gets small so quickly and gives you the illusion of more speed because it's so little, it disappears quickly.
You ever see a mosquito and you see it floating through the air and then it's got, you can't find the fire because there's too little.
unidentified
Right.
I just want to see what's going on.
joe rogan
So they just, once they go a certain distance away, it's like they went a million dollars.
sam tripoli
And look how far away that is.
joe rogan
I mean, that is way Right over the camera, that's what I think happened.
I think it went right over the camera, and I think within a couple of seconds, like look where it goes.
It's like right gone.
I think it's right over the camera in the right direction.
And I think it only takes like, you know, a millisecond for a fucking bug to do that.
sam tripoli
I think it's something.
joe rogan
Let's see it again.
Watch.
Here it goes.
sam tripoli
Stop it at its farthest point.
joe rogan
Let's just not stop it.
Here it goes.
jamie vernon
It's already gone.
joe rogan
It's already gone.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That is pretty fast.
Okay, I changed my mind.
It's alien.
Maybe, you know, maybe there's a type of bug that I'm not aware of that moves really fast, though.
But where is that supposedly?
sam tripoli
I don't know where that comes from.
joe rogan
That means a lot.
Like, we need to know where it is.
sam tripoli
But they've had crafts since before the Civil War.
They were building crafts that went 200 miles an hour.
joe rogan
Okay.
Who's they?
And where did you go?
sam tripoli
Well, the U.S. government.
joe rogan
They were before the Civil War.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
So before 1865.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They had crafts that could go 200 miles an hour in the air.
sam tripoli
Yes.
joe rogan
Who made them?
sam tripoli
You could look it up.
Pre-Civil War aircrafts.
Well, there was a bunch of German scientists in America that were working with the U.S. government.
joe rogan
So this predates Orville Wright.
sam tripoli
I'm just telling you, right, doesn't it?
Yes.
I don't know dates.
joe rogan
I think it does, right?
Isn't Orville and Wilbur Wright?
Isn't that the end of the 1800s?
When was that?
Well, you know what?
I love that.
You can just ask your phone.
I'll ask my phone.
sam tripoli
I love it.
Go on, chat GPT.
joe rogan
When did Orville and Wilbur Wright fly the first plane?
1903.
So you're telling me that in 1865.
Yep.
sam tripoli
I'm telling you.
joe rogan
In 1865, multiple same crafts that got, well, as long as you've done multiple shows on it, I'm the truth, okay?
Where the fuck did you hear this?
sam tripoli
I did.
I had two guys, Joseph P. Farrell was on, and he's like amazing.
And he was breaking down that there was.
joe rogan
What is Joseph P. Farrell's area of expertise?
sam tripoli
Hidden history.
He does a lot in religion, particularly.
joe rogan
Is he self-taught?
sam tripoli
No, he's dude.
He's really a great interview, man.
joe rogan
I believe you.
I mean, he's self-taught.
Does he have like a real quick education in this stuff?
sam tripoli
He's written like a thousand books on it.
That's a lot of books, dude.
I can barely read one book.
I'm stuck on Alexander II right now.
joe rogan
And what is he saying?
sam tripoli
He's saying that in the pre-Civil War and during the Civil War, they had crafts that were traveling at 200 miles an hour.
joe rogan
Okay.
sam tripoli
And you can find pictures of it on the internet.
joe rogan
Well, as long as he has pictures.
sam tripoli
Well, there's drawings, dude.
Someone took time.
joe rogan
As long as it's drawing.
sam tripoli
Come on, man.
Jamie, you're leaving me here.
joe rogan
Hang on.
He'll get you.
He'll get you.
It's got to be legitimate.
sam tripoli
It's there.
joe rogan
It sounds so legit.
Will you look up Tim Pole so many years before they flew the first very primitive plane that could barely get off the ground and credit those guys with developing the first plane?
jamie vernon
It is a plane.
You said aircraft.
joe rogan
Oh, that's true.
sam tripoli
Thank you.
joe rogan
Oh, so is it like a blimp?
jamie vernon
I'm trying to dig down.
joe rogan
Listen to Jamie getting all pissy.
jamie vernon
It could not have to be a plane.
sam tripoli
Mom, Dad, stop.
joe rogan
It's true.
It's true.
No, it's a good point.
Yeah, it could be a blimp, right?
Like, when did they first start doing blimps?
When did that start?
sam tripoli
Wasn't that the whole point of like Led Zeppelin that they didn't want people getting on blimps, so they like crash that shit?
Everyone thinks I'm crazy.
You guys think I'm nuts.
I'm just telling you, bro.
Everything's a psyop.
joe rogan
I love it.
I want to hear more psyops.
I'd rather go that way than the other way.
That nothing's a psychopath.
I want to hear that everything's a psychopath.
sam tripoli
Everything's a psychopath.
Dude, someone should do conspiracy news.
It would be 10 times better than what you see on television.
I was watching, like, my girlfriend can't stop watching MSNBC.
It doesn't matter how much they lied to her.
She's like dug in, and that's her team, right?
And so I'm listening to Rachel Maddow the other day talking about demonizing RFK Jr. about mRNA vaccines, right?
joe rogan
Yeah.
You want a cigar?
Do you smoke cigars?
sam tripoli
No, I don't, dude.
joe rogan
All right.
sam tripoli
But I'll put another Zen in.
joe rogan
Get it.
Get it.
Get that Zen.
Please continue.
Don't interrupt.
sam tripoli
So she, you want to try one?
joe rogan
No, I'm good.
I'm good.
sam tripoli
So Rachel Maddow, who just completely told everybody if you get the vaccine, there's 100% chance you won't get COVID, you know, is now telling everybody how important mRNA vaccines are.
joe rogan
She was only off by 100%.
Didn't it have a break?
It's hard.
It was a trying time.
We didn't know.
You know, there's a lot of mistakes.
sam tripoli
How did I know?
I'm a dick joe comic who's functionally illiterate.
joe rogan
Mistakes were made.
sam tripoli
Not on my part.
joe rogan
Yeah, no.
Well, it's just, it was weird to me where a lot of lefties all of a sudden were trusting the pharmaceutical drugs.
sam tripoli
It's really weird.
joe rogan
What happened, guys?
Like, what did we used to believe in?
We used to think that the big pharma was trying to make money and you should really be taking organic food and taking vitamins and eating healthy and drinking water and going to yoga.
Like, what happened?
What happened?
And everybody's like, inject me?
What happened?
sam tripoli
And then, you know, I live in California where they're all about my body, my choice, except for when it comes to vaccines.
And I had arguments with people.
I'm like, I thought you were my body, my choice.
And now you're telling me I have to take a vaccine?
They're like, it's different.
It's not.
joe rogan
No.
sam tripoli
It's not at all.
Not at all.
joe rogan
It seemed like it was to some people at the time because some people got way more anxious about the pandemic than other people.
And those people just, they reacted so strongly.
They thought these other people that weren't doing the right thing were fucking it up for everybody because that's what they believed at the time.
The problem is most of those people have never kind of owned up to what they did because they were wrong.
And we did get hoodwinked.
And there's still people that are trying to defend it.
And like, stop trying to defend it.
The data's out.
It didn't stop infection.
Didn't stop transmission.
That alone would have stopped almost everybody from taking it or a lot of people from taking it.
And they knew that.
They knew that from the jump.
They never did studies on whether or not it would stop infection.
They just wanted to see if it created antibodies.
The whole thing is when you listen to RFK Jr. talk about it, you're like, this can't be, he can't be telling the truth.
And then you find out he is.
You're like, this is nuts.
This is nuts.
sam tripoli
Right.
And then have you ever seen when they broke down how long it would actually take to make like five billion vaccines that they wanted for everybody?
It would take 10 years.
joe rogan
It was just the thing that it was, that they had done it in front of everybody and everybody agreed to it.
And then once they realized they agreed to it and they realized they got duped, they don't want to admit they got duped.
unidentified
Yes.
sam tripoli
They want to be right, not do right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And then there's how many like really nutty, like Marxist, left-wing, lunatic like conferences do I see online where they're all masked.
sam tripoli
Dude, I'm flying people.
They're still in masks.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sam tripoli
They're still in mask.
Everyone else doesn't have a mask.
We're all living.
They're wearing like the super heavy mask.
joe rogan
I said it before, but it's the Democrats MAGA hat.
That's what it is.
sam tripoli
Yeah, it is.
joe rogan
It's you're letting everybody know exactly what you vote for.
You have a mask and you're wearing it everywhere.
sam tripoli
I love it.
It's like I know who the retards are.
joe rogan
But there's like groups online where they talk about the importance of masking and they meet up and about how irresponsible these non-maskers are and COVID hasn't gotten away and I have respiratory this and infectious that and immune suppressed this and fuck man.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
What happened?
sam tripoli
It's not good.
joe rogan
But it was just one cold that was a little harder than most flus and everybody got duped.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
And then you go, what about the 5G they're cranking up?
What about what they're spraying in the skies that now is an acceptable fact that they're doing geoengineering of our skies?
Like five years ago, you were a crazy conspiracy theorist.
Now there's laws being passed about it.
And you put all that together, you're like, that's how people get sick.
joe rogan
It's weird, like even cloud seeding, you know, which is legal.
Like you can seed the clouds and you can make it rain, but like how exact is this science?
You know what I mean?
Like what happens if you cause floods like they did in Dubai?
Did you see that shit?
sam tripoli
Yeah, camels just flying down the road.
joe rogan
Fucking Lamborghinis drowning.
sam tripoli
Oh, poor Lamborghinis.
jamie vernon
I found something.
joe rogan
Tell me something.
jamie vernon
Nothing about 200 miles an hour.
But I found multiple things talking about aircrafts, including helicopters used by the South.
joe rogan
The South?
jamie vernon
The Confederate.
joe rogan
The Confederate Army.
sam tripoli
You might have to get on my phone for a second just to see if I can find it.
jamie vernon
I was digging.
I found it because I was digging through the trailer.
joe rogan
They had the General Lee helicopter.
jamie vernon
Here's the transcript where he's talking about the history with his friend Beasley or something like that.
joe rogan
Who is saying this?
jamie vernon
The guy Sam was talking about.
joe rogan
What is his name again?
jamie vernon
This is his podcast.
joe rogan
What's his name again, Sam?
sam tripoli
Joseph P. Farrell.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
During the Civil War with the airship mystery, my friend Walter Bosley has written an interesting book called Origins About the Black Projects, World, and Airships That Exist in this country prior to the Civil War.
But it didn't say anything about the speed.
sam tripoli
Yeah, we talked about it.
It was either him or the two episodes later they talked about how it went 200 miles an hour.
jamie vernon
Airships.
Lincoln went to Congress to get funding or is trying to get funding for some of this.
There's a whole thing here about balloon corps of the army back to the Civil War.
joe rogan
Isn't Lincoln another one that they got rumors about?
unidentified
Yeah.
sam tripoli
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like the fellowship.
sam tripoli
Closeted, dog.
joe rogan
Or maybe like everybody did it back then.
jamie vernon
Yeah, that's what had a lot of heat back then.
joe rogan
So they just fucked?
jamie vernon
The thing with the Lincoln stuff, they just said that they were like, come over here.
Looking together.
joe rogan
No, that's true.
That's true.
You know, it's probably not that weird for us, but.
sam tripoli
Back then it was like you got excommunicated.
jamie vernon
There's another airships.
They're calling them airships is what they were calling it.
sam tripoli
And there's a certain like.
joe rogan
So is that supposedly a thing where a person could get in?
jamie vernon
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So the boats with airbags is what I've been seeing.
Other flying machines here.
joe rogan
Okay, so what that looks like is like sails, right?
Can you show me that thing again?
Look at that, Sam.
That's like sails, like a sailboat.
sam tripoli
But it's even crazier to a base.
joe rogan
So do you just jump off a cliff with that?
How do you get that bitch off the ground?
jamie vernon
One of them was describing, and I think it's in this, there was a traveling gas thing that went along with it so it could keep refueling right here.
See, a mobile gas generator.
It was accompanied by a wagon consisting of necessary.
joe rogan
Oh my gosh.
sam tripoli
See if you can look up.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
sam tripoli
Tinfo Hat 901.
That's the episode.
And there's a picture of the craft that they had made.
joe rogan
So they're just refueling these balloons with gas.
sam tripoli
No, but these aren't even balloons, dude.
It's like literally aircrafts that could go 200 miles an hour.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
What are they doing?
sam tripoli
So the reason I bring that up is because if we go, they got these silver cigar things.
Like, think about how long ago that was.
joe rogan
Would they have bug?
sam tripoli
Okay.
joe rogan
Bug, whatever you want to do.
sam tripoli
Yeah, I mean, whatever helps everybody sleep at night, you know, but they got the technique.
That's it.
That's what they had in 2000 in the pre-Civil War.
Walter Bosley, he came on, he talked about it.
joe rogan
Who drew that?
sam tripoli
You can find those on the internet.
I don't know who's specific.
The guy's name's up in the corner.
joe rogan
That thing can go 200 miles an hour.
Yep.
What's it powered by?
sam tripoli
Oh, that's it.
It's Skies with NYMZA Eros and the secret ship.
Yeah, I'm, dude, you know, I'm retarded, right?
joe rogan
I do now.
I want to know what that is.
sam tripoli
Go to image.
joe rogan
What power?
sam tripoli
Yeah, these are them.
These are the crafts that they had that they were working on.
joe rogan
So a person gets inside that fucking thing?
unidentified
Yeah.
sam tripoli
Look at that.
And then there's a propeller.
joe rogan
Who was working on this?
sam tripoli
The South?
No, the North.
joe rogan
The North.
sam tripoli
The North and Germany.
joe rogan
He said the South.
jamie vernon
No, no, I did.
You said the South that said the South had some sort of helicopter.
joe rogan
Oh, the South had a different kind of thing.
But this thing is different.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whatever this is.
So is it a bunch of fans?
sam tripoli
I don't know.
joe rogan
It looks like a bunch of fans, right?
sam tripoli
Or propellers, you know.
joe rogan
Right.
sam tripoli
And they had that way back in the 1850s, dude.
Look at those guys.
joe rogan
Do you really think that thing went 200 miles an hour?
I think somebody lied.
sam tripoli
Maybe.
But they had to.
joe rogan
200 miles an hour.
Step right up.
sam tripoli
Just think of what kind of dominance you could have at that time with that kind of craft.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sam tripoli
Moving that quickly.
jamie vernon
Back then they used to thought if you went that fast, you were going to explode.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
If you didn't know.
joe rogan
Yeah, they used to think.
Witchcraft.
Well, they thought that before the trains.
sam tripoli
But again, Germany's involved.
Germany basically funded the North when they needed money because, you know, Lincoln was issuing greenbacks.
I have one in my house.
I bought a Lincoln Greenback, $20 greenback.
It's pretty sweet.
I bought it for, I forget how much I paid for it, but yeah, that's like one of my favorite things I have.
joe rogan
What is this, Jeremy?
jamie vernon
Oh, there's these pictures on this fucking thing.
joe rogan
The guy's throwing a baby.
jamie vernon
I don't know what the fuck's going on here.
sam tripoli
Sacrifices.
joe rogan
Sacrificing a child for the air gods.
So you don't, do you think that most of the UFO sightings that people see are U.S. government crafts?
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
So do you think it's back-engineered stuff?
Or do you think we invented all the technology?
sam tripoli
I think we worked with entities that give us technology.
I mean, it goes back to what we talked before about, you know, Admiral Byrd and, you know, that whole thing where I think it was Eisenhower made a deal.
And I told you this, and that's where the missing 411 comes from.
All the people who disappear in force, that there's really weird connections between all of them.
They tend to be of German descent, of high IQ, and they just disappear in the forest.
And Eddie Bravo has a really interesting theory about it, about how there's all these movies about all these people dying in forests and everyone dying in the ocean, you know, to scare you from going out there.
Like, I'm afraid of sharks.
Like, I don't want to go out in the ocean, but what's going on in the ocean?
We see stuff coming out of the ocean all the time.
What's going on way deep down there?
joe rogan
Well, sharks are real.
sam tripoli
Sharks are real.
joe rogan
You should be scared of them.
I mean, the ocean is unforgiving.
sam tripoli
And alligators.
joe rogan
And it's a rational fear.
Having a fear of the ocean is very difficult.
sam tripoli
Yeah, but you know, Jaws makes this thing boom right in your face, right?
When probably before that, nobody was thinking about sharks.
joe rogan
Well, you know, Jaws is based on a real event, right?
jamie vernon
These things could apparently go fast because they use something, an anti-gravity fuel called NB gas.
joe rogan
What?
What?
And they had anti-gravity gas in World War, I mean, in the Civil War.
jamie vernon
Yeah, so there apparently was something, this guy, Delashu, the guy who was credited with the drawings, he was in something called the Sonora Arrow Club.
I also add that they found all this in a junk pile.
He moved somewhere in Texas in 1850 and they found it in the 60s, 1960s.
sam tripoli
Yeah, and they were working with German scientists.
Wow.
joe rogan
NB gas for lift and propulsion.
jamie vernon
So it's like some sort of, I guess, secret arrow club or a bunch of guys that were into that's what they're, I guess.
joe rogan
But what does that mean in anti-gravity fuel?
I'd like to have someone read that that knows what the fuck those words mean.
jamie vernon
I'm not even sure if it's real.
joe rogan
It doesn't sound like a fuel could turn.
sam tripoli
It's because we do it based on our timelines and this notion that we came from cavemen.
And, you know, that I don't think that.
I think there's been multiple society, you know, civilizations that just keep getting reset and reset and reset.
joe rogan
I think that's true.
Yeah.
Thank you.
I agree with that.
I think there's a lot of really compelling evidence that shows that.
Have you seen Jesse Michaels' new video?
sam tripoli
No.
joe rogan
He's got a video on those tridactyl mummies in Peru where he went down there and had them CAT scanned and had them.
Dude.
sam tripoli
Tridactyl?
Okay.
Are we talking like...
joe rogan
We'll go to that right after this ending.
Ammonia gas.
jamie vernon
I mean, we're kind of back to it.
joe rogan
Does it say it's bullshit?
jamie vernon
I don't.
I was bailed.
joe rogan
I mean, it's like, how is it going to defy gravity?
Unless you're talking about just lift, like a helium balloon.
Like if that, that's kind of anti-gravity gas.
If you think about it, sort of.
But that's not what I think of when I think of anti-gravity.
I think of like space tech that allows you to like shoot through giant distances instantaneously like we hear about from these crafts.
sam tripoli
But if let's just say this is real and I do believe it's real 100%, like what do they have now?
I mean, it's so far down the line.
I mean, that's so long ago.
That's like, well, 175 years ago, the technology that they could have started.
jamie vernon
This is what's interesting about this club.
I don't know how many flight enthusiasts in the mid-1800s there would have been.
You know, people would have been interested in flying, I guess, because they couldn't do it.
sam tripoli
The Nazi Bell, which is a big part of World War II that nobody ever talks about.
Right.
joe rogan
That was like a flying craft that they were trying to develop, right?
sam tripoli
Right.
joe rogan
So the Nazis were apparently trying to come up with a bunch of different shapes for crafts.
One was a bell, right?
One was kind of flying saucer-like, right?
Yeah.
sam tripoli
I mean, that's a whole part in like, but here's the.
Have you ever heard of Martin Bowerman?
joe rogan
I always wonder, that's pretty dope looking.
I always wonder when they talk about stuff like that, like the Nazis trying to make a flying saucer.
Was that because they were trying to emulate something that they had seen or that there was some sort of a hidden historical record of?
You know, because if only the people that are at the head of the military today or the head of these military contractors really know whether or not there's back-engineered UFOs, if there are, they have them.
And if they don't know about them, they probably don't exist or the other companies have them, right?
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
So, you know, you got to wonder, what were the Nazis doing?
Were they trying to emulate something that they knew existed?
And when, like, when did governments, if there really is a real phenomenon, if this isn't just total gaslighting and propaganda and bullshit to get you to believe that aliens are out there because they've got like crazy high-tech that's 50, 60, 70 years past where we really think it is.
Both of those things are hard to believe, right?
It's hard to believe that the government would be able to hide the kind of whatever kind of program that would develop a genuine anti-gravity engine that could move through space and time, that could go through the ocean, makes a device transmedium, creates like a portal around it where it exists completely independently of everything that we're experiencing in 3D space.
It just goes through stuff.
The idea that they have that, they've kept it secret, seems kind of crazy.
I don't think so.
sam tripoli
I'm not saying it's impossible.
What I'm saying by that is like you hear famous stories of people whose fathers worked at Area 51 and he never once told them what they did there.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
People keep their Mouth shut.
People know that they have to keep their mouth shut because if you don't, you can get in real trouble.
You know, if you have top secret clearance and you go blabbing, they're listening to everything you say.
They're checking your emails.
They know.
sam tripoli
100%.
joe rogan
100%.
I think people can keep secrets.
I really do.
sam tripoli
And they have you looking over here when it's really over here.
They do that all the time.
Like Area 51 is kind of like the shiny object.
Everyone's, oh, there's crazy.
And then it's really the mountain that's like 10 miles away that they've hollowed out.
joe rogan
S4.
Where Lazar worked.
sam tripoli
Or you get into NASA, right?
Everyone thinks it's in Houston.
The real NASA is in Huntsville, Alabama.
So this is a funny story.
So Eddie and I are doing stand-up and we're doing the Tim Fole Hack comedy night.
And we go, we do Nashville, we pack it out.
Zaney's, I think it is.
We pack it out.
We're great.
So they sent us to Huntsville.
And we go, you know, I'm like, yeah, man, we're going to stand up in Alabama.
This is going to be great.
Let's go.
So we drive up.
We get to the hotel.
We go to the comedy club and the fucking parking lot is packed.
And we're like, dog, we packed this motherfucker.
It's going to be great.
Well, it's like Sharon Underwood or one of those black female comics is performing there.
And it's all her crowd.
No, it's not her.
It's the one who has the daytime talk show.
I forget what her name is.
No disrespect.
She's hilarious.
She packed it out and it's her crowd.
So she runs.
The show goes late.
Surprise.
And all of a sudden, her crowd leaves and our crowd comes in and it's 45 people.
And I'm like, oh, fuck.
And I just keep looking up the door going, ah, fuck, fuck, fuck.
And he's like, and he's going, I know we're in trouble because Sam's always positive about it and you just can't stop yelling fuck.
So we do the show, 45 people.
It's a great show.
We have a good time.
We get off stage.
The sound guy comes up to me and goes, Whoever sent you here set you up to fail because this is the real NASA.
This is where all of the satellites are controlled from.
This is where Von Braun went when he came to America.
And in Huntsville, Alabama, into the late 80s, you were not allowed to talk about how he was a Nazi because they had all convinced himself that he was forced to do it against his own will, even though he was a horrible, horrible person.
If you hear the stories about it.
joe rogan
He's a real Nazi.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
But they convinced themselves that he did it against his own will.
So that's where the real, so they always have you look over here when everything's going on over here.
joe rogan
Well, that one with Von Braun is undeniable at this point.
You know, I mean, they hit it in the 1960s because they wanted all those amazing engineers.
But they got some evil motherfuckers.
sam tripoli
There's a video out there.
It's called American Nazi 60 Minutes.
Can you look it up?
It's basically when 60 Minutes did really good work and they interview this Boston lawyer who was like wanting to get down to what was going on.
Why are all these Nazis here?
Why isn't anyone getting them?
And so he's pressing and he's doing like Freedom of Information Act and he's pressing and pressing them.
And one day they got to agree to it.
So the CIA says, you can look at these documents.
You can't take pictures and you can't take notes.
You can just read it.
So he reads it and he finds out that basically what happened was a Rockefeller Nixon and I think it was Eisenhower form a committee and they're all the ones that bring them over.
This little community.
Yeah, so you got all these guys.
joe rogan
This is Operation Paperclip.
sam tripoli
This is part of it.
But this, I never knew that.
Like if you're going in hiding, dude, why wouldn't you change your name?
None of them changed their names.
unidentified
Right.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Didn't have to.
sam tripoli
Right?
None of them changed.
Yeah, that was it.
joe rogan
So 82 U.S. agency lied to cover up Nazi spy program.
Wow.
60 Minutes.
sam tripoli
Eisenhower.
Yep.
It was Nixon, Rockefeller, and Eisenhower.
joe rogan
Can you imagine 60 Minutes doing that today?
Nope.
sam tripoli
Would never happen.
joe rogan
Nope.
Government would talk to them.
Hey, guys.
sam tripoli
Yeah, let's not.
joe rogan
Let's not.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's not.
sam tripoli
Right?
joe rogan
What spy program?
What Nazis?
Shut the fuck up.
sam tripoli
I agree, dude.
joe rogan
They're American heroes.
They got us on the moon.
sam tripoli
Shut the fuck up.
Nobody ever talked about Martin Borman, who was like, if you don't know Martin Borman, you don't know nothing about World War II, lived peacefully in Argentina with Simon Sex.
joe rogan
Carter tried to get him out of there.
Look, scroll back up.
It says, John Luftus, a former prosecutor with the Justice Department official Office of Special Investigations that was set up in 1980 by President Carter to root out Nazi collaborators, made the allegations in an interview with Mike Wallace on the CBS program Sunday.
Yep, I have to say Nazi collaborators are given jobs in the United States, and some were later sent to the Soviet Union and parachute teams in an unsuccessful attempt to perform assassinations and start civil wars.
sam tripoli
Yo, that is crazy.
joe rogan
Flying Nazis into Russia to start civil wars.
sam tripoli
So I had this guy on, I think I talked about last time, but the dark journalist who does really great work, and he was talking a big reason why JFK was assassinated, that NASA was involved because JFK wanted to give Russia all these documents and information they had about these UFOs because he didn't want them to think that they were like nuclear planes like dropping bombs and stuff.
And because NASA was so full of Nazis and they still hated the Russians, they didn't want that to happen.
joe rogan
Well, that might be one reason, but there's one of the reasons.
sam tripoli
Yeah, there's multiple reasons.
joe rogan
It says that he said the State Department's Office of Policy Coordination is the first covert spy agency set up in the United States, predating the CIA by several months, smuggled several hundred Nazi collaborators into America.
Hundreds.
After World War II for intelligence purposes.
Wow.
Barney Frank, Massachusetts, today called out.
He's got some big ones.
jamie vernon
This is all before we knew about Paperclip.
Describing Paperclip.
joe rogan
Interesting.
jamie vernon
1982.
joe rogan
Interesting.
Wow.
jamie vernon
Paperclip came out in the 90s, right?
joe rogan
I don't remember when they did it.
I don't remember.
But it's kind of crazy that they hit it.
And then, meanwhile, these guys working for NASA had these Nazi dueling scars on their face.
They look so sinister.
sam tripoli
In the video, they interview Nazis who still defended everything they did.
None of them changed their names.
They all just defended what they did.
And it was crazy.
It's a crazy video to watch.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
Imagine Werner von Braun, they used to hang the five slowest Jews in front of the rocket factory.
sam tripoli
Yep.
joe rogan
To motivate workers.
They'd hang them.
That was where his Berlin rocket factory.
sam tripoli
Yep.
joe rogan
And that guy was the head of NASA.
unidentified
Yep.
sam tripoli
And they convinced themselves he didn't want to do it.
And this gets into this whole thing that about what's going to happen in Gaza.
It's basically all been prophesied, dude.
What's going to happen next?
joe rogan
What does it say, Jeremy?
jamie vernon
The State Department's quote for this is 1982, so it's only 30 years after.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
It says, we never comment on intelligence matters, and we're not commenting on something that happened in the 1950s.
jamie vernon
That'd be like saying, we're not commenting on anything that happened in the 90s.
Fuck off.
joe rogan
Right.
Could you imagine?
Imagine?
I mean, we're still trying to find out what the fuck happened to JFK.
Those 63.
sam tripoli
I think there's one person still alive, and that's why they don't want to tell you about it.
unidentified
Really?
sam tripoli
It's a gun.
It's a woman.
joe rogan
What'd she do?
sam tripoli
I don't know exactly her role in it, but she supposedly is a part of it, and she was like, kind of some like.
joe rogan
So when she dies, they'll release the hounds?
sam tripoli
They'll release more of it unless the family's the one, but that's why they're slow rolling this out because they don't want anyone who's still alive to face any prosecution.
joe rogan
My question was always, though, what could possibly be in there?
It's not like we shot him.
This is where we stood.
You know, Bobby took the first time.
sam tripoli
That's my point with the Jeffrey Epstein list is like, what do you think they're going to do?
Their name and what they ordered?
You know, they're never going to have that.
joe rogan
Well, the list is one thing.
What she was saying about videos is another thing.
That's crazy.
sam tripoli
Well, that's the whole point of the they believe behind the P. Diddy trial is that it was really about getting his tapes.
And why would they release the names when they could have the names and blackmail everybody on the list and in the videos?
joe rogan
Right.
sam tripoli
Why would they give that away?
Why would the intelligence agencies do that when they can control these people now?
joe rogan
Right.
And if you see one of them in a Pfizer commercial, you know what's up.
unidentified
100%.
sam tripoli
I'm like, remember during the height of it?
You're like, oh, you did something weird.
I like to watch politicians who are pushing all this fucking bullshit, whether it's COVID or BLM or Nazi or Zionism and all this shit.
And I go, what weird shit do they got you fucking on video?
What weird shit.
When Pam Bondi, who was a part of the whole Jeffrey Epstein thing in Florida, and now she's like, yeah, there's videos.
There's no video.
joe rogan
What do you mean a part of it in Florida?
What was she a part of?
sam tripoli
So when he, the first time he gets arrested, she was part of that whole thing.
joe rogan
She was part of the process.
sam tripoli
It was like some AG or something in Florida.
joe rogan
Was she involved in that case?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh.
Interesting.
sam tripoli
And you're like, what do they got you doing?
joe rogan
Well, there's so many people that would be implicated.
That's what's nuts, watching it not play out and watching these powerful people sort of huddle up together and hold the line.
It's kind of crazy.
sam tripoli
And you got all these pedo hunters, and they're doing great jobs getting these guys off the streets.
But they're all low level.
It makes you feel like, oh, we're doing something.
No, you're just getting low level guys out.
You're not getting, you know, when the Me Too movement and they were accusing people of all this and they're trying to make it seem like these guys are a part of it.
No, dude.
You know, if you're a 17 year old going to a comedy concert and then you go home to your parents still, you're not part of that.
You know, it's like 80% of the children who go missing are from foster care.
Like, people don't understand that.
It like involves dark ass shit.
joe rogan
Do you remember there was a story that was in some sort of a television show about a scandal that involved child sex trafficking with politicians?
It was like in the 90s or something like that.
sam tripoli
There was weird stuff in different strokes.
They constantly had episodes on that stuff.
joe rogan
The TV show different strokes?
unidentified
Yeah.
sam tripoli
They had one where like the guy owned a bike store was giving the kids wine.
What?
Yeah.
It was.
I just saw that pop up on one of my feeds, my algorithms.
joe rogan
But like, wasn't there, there was some sort of a story that I, God, I can't remember what TV program it was.
sam tripoli
Was it the Franklin scandal or the, or the finder scandal?
And where the, where the FBI.
joe rogan
Conspiracy of silence.
The camp investigates nationwide child abuse network reaching government officials, exposes systematic exploitation by power figures.
sam tripoli
Franklin scandal.
unidentified
Yeah.
sam tripoli
Which involves Ronald Reagan.
joe rogan
93.
That's it.
sam tripoli
And, and George involves Ronald Reagan and involves George Bush senior.
joe rogan
Imagine if you are a government official and you're also a pedophile and you have to like sniff around to find out if anybody else is a pedophile.
sam tripoli
I think.
joe rogan
Imagine how crazy that is.
sam tripoli
I think that you get in there because they know that about you.
Everything's about data, dude.
joe rogan
So you think they get pedophiles into office knowing that they're pedophiles because they control those people.
sam tripoli
And then they feed them their, their addiction and then they control them through that.
I mean, I'm convinced that's why Pornhub is free.
And you, they find out who's commenting on these videos and what they're into.
And then they can find out, Hey, does this guy have any political desires?
And then he kind of push him in the direction.
There you go.
joe rogan
From the kind of porn you're whacking off to?
sam tripoli
100%.
That's why it's free.
And that's why they're just seeing what's...
joe rogan
They're just trying to recruit politicians.
sam tripoli
You've heard about it.
100%.
Gay programs.
That's what that's all about.
Who's in smart ones?
Who's the psychopaths?
And before they had all that, they were just going on campuses, talking to the professors.
Who's a really smart guy?
And then they, that's what they did with the Unabomber.
They, they, they knew he was a super smart guy.
So they put him through all this CIA stuff and they fractured him.
joe rogan
Well, he was fucked up from the beginning.
Do you know his story?
Do you ever watch the Netflix documentary?
He had a disease when he was a child.
So he wasn't touched for like...
sam tripoli
For like seven days or something like that.
joe rogan
A lot longer than that, I think.
I think it was a long period of time during like his childhood developmental process.
And they said he just like never had any empathy and he would snap on people.
And then they put him in the Harvard LSD studies.
And so the studies involved like humiliation, a lot of crazy shit.
sam tripoli
But they never deprogrammed him after.
It's that famous...
unidentified
What is it?
joe rogan
How are you going to deprogram a guy who got broken from child, childhood because he got left alone when, you know, during a time his mother's supposed to be holding him.
He's supposed to have contact with a person.
Yep.
He's a fucking baby.
And he's just, no one's touching him for like however long time it was.
and then you get him in involved in these lsd studies because his brother said that he would like snap at people and like he would write like horrible letters to ladies if they rejected him like he was already fucked up and then they get him in the lsd studies did he end up in stamford yes yeah that's got a lot of intelligence agency wasn't it around it am i saying that if you study the um what i might have just I don't know why I agreed to that so quickly.
I know he was eventually in Montana alone, right?
That's where he was launching the bombs out of and like sending shit through the mail and blowing people up.
He had like a cabin in Montana.
I think it was, why do I think it was Berkeley?
sam tripoli
That whole Kavanaugh trial.
jamie vernon
He targeted people at Stanford.
joe rogan
He started.
Was he from Berkeley?
Did he teach at Berkeley?
sam tripoli
Or he was a student or a teacher's aide?
jamie vernon
Briefly taught at Berkeley.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
He briefly taught at Berkeley.
That's the whole area of where all the loonies were.
sam tripoli
That whole Kavanaugh trial for Supreme Court was a giant charade.
But to get you to not actually look at his history, because the woman who accused him worked at the CIA program at Stanford, and they didn't want you to look into that Kavanaugh was a deep state guy.
He wrote the Patriot Act.
He helped cover up Whitewater.
I mean, they didn't want you looking at it, so they made it into a sex.
joe rogan
He wrote the Patriot Act.
sam tripoli
He helped write the Patriot Act.
He doesn't believe in, he believes in warrantless entering the houses.
He thinks the president's above the law.
They didn't want you ever discussing that stuff.
So they make it a sex trial by a woman who has deep connections to the CIA.
Her father was in charge of finding funding for black op operations.
So she's spook to the core.
And she comes out, she says this stuff.
joe rogan
So you think that was a diversion and it wasn't really that she was talking about?
It was just to get you to concentrate on that and not for people to focus on that.
sam tripoli
100%.
joe rogan
Wow.
Where'd you read that?
sam tripoli
The streets?
The streets?
I'm just telling you, Joe.
I'm telling you this.
This is all charade.
No one ever discussed his actual background and what he actually was a part of.
joe rogan
Interesting.
sam tripoli
Because nobody would want a guy who thinks the president's above the law and the cops shouldn't have warrants to come in your house as a Supreme Court justice.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sam tripoli
Oh, this guy did something to me in school.
He journaled about it.
Who journaled?
I know one guy that's journaled in my life.
My buddy Tony.
That's it.
Nobody else has ever journaled.
joe rogan
And so it's easily refuted, but it's conditioned.
sam tripoli
But the Me Too movement.
joe rogan
Everyone's paying attention to it.
sam tripoli
All these female comics in LA are commenting on it.
joe rogan
Boy, that's nuts.
That's nuts if that's really what it is.
But what a great way to use social media and the whole outrage machine as a tool.
sam tripoli
As a smokescreen.
joe rogan
Because the outrage machine is so fun to pull the buttons.
unidentified
You know, like, we're doing something.
sam tripoli
Release the Krakens.
Release all the bots.
Release all that stuff.
joe rogan
People love to get involved too because it makes you feel like you're a part of a movement.
sam tripoli
It gives you purpose.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It gives you something.
jamie vernon
I stumbled across this one day.
Remember, we found out information about the Epstein people who were on the island, I suppose.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
Do you know how they found this information out?
joe rogan
No.
jamie vernon
So they used mobile phone data and did like cross-references to this person's been here.
They don't know who the people are, but they're like, this phone at least has been here, here, and here.
So it most likely could be this person, something like that.
joe rogan
Wow.
jamie vernon
What's interesting, though, is about this.
The company that did it is owned by a person that was tied to Brett Kavanaugh.
He was like in that college story that this whole hearing was about.
sam tripoli
So did you ever hear how they used phone data with the Kamala Harris arena shows?
They were called.
unidentified
Yes.
sam tripoli
Right?
And it was all the same people every time.
People go, how did she blow a billion dollars filling arenas?
joe rogan
Yeah.
They tried to manufacture a big grassroots movement behind her.
sam tripoli
Because they know that's what killed Hillary Clinton.
You know, Bernie Sanders is doing arenas, and Hillary Clinton's putting Sam Tripley numbers in a cafeteria of like 40 people.
So they realize the illusion of that.
They like what that, what that shows, that there's nobody following her.
So when they run her out, they go, we can't let this happen again.
So we have to fill these arenas up.
And they did data that was like, it was like a Grateful Dead concert.
People were just following her around everywhere.
joe rogan
Well, they were professionals.
Yeah.
I mean, they were making a living doing that.
sam tripoli
Yep.
100%.
joe rogan
And there's also people that are professional protesters, which is wild.
There's guys that have documented people protesting at different places.
And he's talked to them about it.
Like, how much do you get paid?
And, like, people are making a living protesting.
And how is that legal?
How is it legal to hire someone to go and annoy people?
sam tripoli
Yeah, I thought it was illegal.
You're not allowed to protest something you don't believe in.
They just show up and design.
joe rogan
Maybe they believe in it.
They're getting paid and they believe in it.
That's what they would say.
You can't tell someone they don't believe in something.
sam tripoli
Well, some people are dumb and they'll be like, I don't even know why I'm here.
I'm just collecting checks and getting a sandwich.
joe rogan
100.
There's always going to be people like that.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
They give away secrets.
joe rogan
There's always going to be like really dull-minded people that grew up in a house with a gas leak and there's just no saving them.
unidentified
Yeah.
sam tripoli
I mean, just common sense isn't that common.
joe rogan
No, but it's not just that.
I think some people's brains don't function well.
You know?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I just think you're just born with a bad brain.
And then you also maybe have environmental factors.
Like, what if you're fucking working with certain chemicals every day?
You know?
How many people are doing that for a living?
You know, how many people are working in print shops, just like sucking in all them fucking chemical fumes?
What does that do to your dome?
That can't be good.
sam tripoli
And who knows about what you took in as a child?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Leaded gasoline when we were young.
That shit was everywhere.
We got lead poisoning in the brain for sure.
Drops your IQ a little bit.
Measurable.
sam tripoli
Yeah, I took all the lead.
joe rogan
We talked about that the other day.
They fucking knew that lead was going to poison people, and they put it in anyway because they could save money.
sam tripoli
Did you ever hear the conspiracy about that?
joe rogan
About what?
Leaded gasoline?
sam tripoli
About lead?
joe rogan
No.
sam tripoli
That it doesn't really cause that.
And the reason they wanted to get lead out of paint is because it made it harder for them to see through walls.
And that's why all these new houses have glass windows for walls.
They're like, look at your amazing view through this glass window.
I was watching one of those home flipping shows and they took out a wall and they just put a giant glass there.
And the theory is that it's easier to look through that.
And, you know, now they've discovered that there's these mystery vans driving around that can look right through your walls and watch what you're doing.
Is this too much?
joe rogan
How are they looking through your wall?
What are they using?
I know they can do it with Wi-Fi now.
sam tripoli
Yeah, that's basically what they're doing.
Yeah, they just have this.
joe rogan
Wi-Fi is bananas.
The fact that they have technology that allows you to see 3D images in a room based on how the Wi-Fi is somehow or another sending it back to them.
Like what is even, what is Wi-Fi even doing to you?
Like what is happening to you if this shit is just around you all the time, passing through your cells?
Have you ever seen it?
I mean, the fact that they can see it, you know, like everyone's scared of radar machines, right?
Everyone's scared of going through an x-ray, right?
You don't want that radar machine.
unidentified
The guy give you the x-ray shield for your day.
sam tripoli
Behind a giant wall protecting them.
joe rogan
They go fucking hide.
They go hide and they press the button.
And we're just cool with Wi-Fi.
Just small level.
It's not as bad as an x-ray, but it's this weird, low-level signal that they say it fucks up bees, right?
At least cell phone signals.
And that fucks up bees.
Really?
sam tripoli
I don't know if it's ever happened to you.
jamie vernon
I've seen this this week or two.
joe rogan
I did.
Yeah.
New contact lenses give people infrared vision even with their eyes shut.
Sci-fi style technology uses nanoparticles to convert infrared light into visible light that humans can see.
Fucking yo.
sam tripoli
How about those night vision goggles that they had to change the color because they were seeing things that weren't on the radar?
joe rogan
What?
sam tripoli
I think it was like red.
They were doing aliens?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
sam tripoli
They were seeing things flying around them and they were flipping out because they had red night vision goggles and that's why they changed it to either green or blue because the red in red they show up.
joe rogan
They don't show up in other colors.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Jamie.
sam tripoli
Just too weird, man.
joe rogan
The account Of early night vision goggles used in Vietnam War revealing alleged demonic entities.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
My dad did drugs and made up stories about Vietnam.
Ah, that's perfect.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
jamie vernon
I mean, also, I just distracted you from the tridactyls.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Thank you.
So, Jesse Michaels released a new video.
He went down to Peru, and these people have been telling him about these mummies.
They're like, you have to see them in person.
They are humanoid, but they don't seem to be human.
They have a different amount of ribs, but they have like all the cartilage and all the ligaments and all the bones.
And everything is in place that makes it look like, if you can go to Jesse's show, go to his YouTube channel because he's got some video footage of the actual like cat scans and they're showing you the tissue.
sam tripoli
And look at those skulls.
joe rogan
Bananas.
So this is Jesse's take.
I'm paraphrasing.
I hope I'm not fucking this up.
But some of these things are forgeries.
Some of these things are just fake stuff.
It's just like an art piece that someone created.
But he thinks they actually have some of them that appear to be a real creature.
And this real creature has three toes and three fingers.
And there's depictions of these in Peru in these ancient like carpets and ancient weaves that are hundreds of years old.
I think even a thousand years old.
So some of these they think are 1,700 years old, and some of these are as recent as 400 or 500 years old.
But look at this.
But look at this tissue.
Elongated skulls.
But look at how everything is in.
Like if this is a piece of art from 1700 years ago, if somebody created this, that's nuts, man.
That's an amazing piece of work if it's really just art.
And if it's not art, well, they've managed to find some kind of creature that might have been another type of human that we didn't know existed.
There might be, look, they find out, and Jesse was telling me this on the phone, like, look at, this is the scan of this thing's bone structure.
This is the actual thing.
Like, how nuts is that, man?
If that's fake, that's fucking extraordinary because it looks like a real creature.
sam tripoli
I mean, the amount of detail.
joe rogan
It looks incredibly real.
I mean, this is incredibly, and the head is very different than ours.
sam tripoli
It's creepy.
joe rogan
Very different than ours, elongated, but also matches up with so many descriptions that people have had with encounters with beings, including the James Fox movie, Moment of Contact, about Vargenia, Brazil, in the 1990s.
They described things that looked exactly like this.
Very small, like three feet tall, three fingers, three toes.
That's what these things are.
Like, they might have been another form of human that we just don't have any evidence for.
Like, Denisovans, they just found recently.
I think it was in the last decade, right?
And then there's those new people, what is Homo Juliens?
Is that what it was?
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
December of 2024, they released this paper.
We found another type of human.
The Flores people, the Hobbit people and Flores, that's like, I think the 90s.
sam tripoli
Flores is interesting, dude.
joe rogan
All of it's interesting.
It's like there's a bunch of stuff that we're just now finding out, but we want to be rigid and pretend that we know the entire landscape as far as what different type of humanoids are.
sam tripoli
I've existed.
joe rogan
What the fuck is that then?
If that really is 1,700 years old, if that's true, or 700 years old, if that really is that, and that's a real being, and then there's more than one, and one of them has a fetus inside of it that they think also has three fingers and three toes.
So they're trying to get better scans on this thing, but it has a fetus inside of it.
Like, if that's a hoax, like, what, like, I want to know.
I want to know who carbon dated it.
What's the results?
Have you done it more than once?
Okay, do we know for sure how old it is?
Yeah, one of them has like an implant on the back of its head.
jamie vernon
Rare metal that's hard to.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I can't recommend this episode enough.
Alien Mummies Found in Peru, and it's on Jesse Michaels' channel, American Alchemy, great fucking show.
And he goes deep, and he actually went to Peru to see these things and get them studied and scanned.
And there's biologists that are looking at this that are saying this is a real creature.
Whatever this is, we need to do more tests and find out more.
And they're very suspicious about the actual location in which the guy said that he found them because it's basically these are like grave robbers that find these things, man.
Yeah, and they found more than one.
But the crazy thing is, show them the ancient art from Peru that shows three-fingered, three-toed beings because they look just like that.
sam tripoli
100%.
joe rogan
This ancient art is hundreds of years old, man.
Like, look, they all have fucking three toes and three fingers.
This is all in Jesse's episode, too.
Just go watch that episode if you're interested.
sam tripoli
My theory on our reality is every movie you've ever watched in your life all going on at the same time.
All of it.
All of these movies just kind of tell you what's really going on.
And aliens and three-fingered dogs.
joe rogan
Be Harry and the Henderson.
So every foot's real.
sam tripoli
He's hanging out at the camp.
It's very interesting.
I had an interview with a guy named the Paranoid American, and he came on my show, and he was talking about how, based on your religious beliefs, is what you see.
So, like, if you're atheists, you see aliens.
If you're religious, you see angels.
And it goes down to cryptids and all that stuff.
So it's like you only see what you want to see, and it shows up in the form that is acceptable to you.
And so I think, yeah, so when you go Bigfoot, 100%.
100%.
One of the craziest stories ever told to me was by a guy I met at a show.
And he was telling me he did a show where people would send in their high weirdness stories.
And he said that a guy was driving through the forest with his girlfriend and dog.
And they pull over for a second at the piss, and the dog takes off.
So he goes and chases him through the woods.
And he looks at his dogs.
Dog's looking up.
He looks up.
There's like what seems to be a giant green screen with something crawling on it.
And they're just staring at it.
And then the thing stops, noses him there, camouflage stuff.
He looks down.
His dog has already ran back and abandoned him.
And he ran back.
And his girlfriend saw him.
They're like, let's get the fuck out of here.
And that gets into like kind of like the whole, again, missing 411 is that it's almost like Grand Theft Auto.
You ever drive to Vegas and Grand Theft Auto?
It has to render itself forever.
So the whole theory is that these people go missing because the simulation doesn't want to render for just one person.
And that's why they disappear.
joe rogan
That's possible.
Let me give you another possibility.
Getting lost in the woods is easy.
Getting out of the woods is hard.
You could easily starve to death trying.
You could easily break a leg, get injured, and no one would ever find you.
sam tripoli
Isn't that what the odds are?
You're feeling right now?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Well, listen, the odds of you getting found if you die in the deep wilderness are not very high.
They might find your clothes, but your body will be scavenged.
All kinds of animals will eat you.
They'll drag your bones away.
There'll be nothing left.
If there's bears in the area, there might literally be nothing left.
There's pigs in the area.
There'll be nothing left.
Nothing.
They'll eat your bones.
They'll eat everything.
There'll be nothing left.
So if you're just a person and you go missing and you're in the deep, deep, deep, deep, deep woods, like miles in, you're in a bad, bad place, and they might not ever find you.
That's just a fact.
There's too much acreage to look over.
There's millions of acres of public land that people could just go into.
And people go missing, man.
And you can't find them.
sam tripoli
Have you ever heard of it?
joe rogan
Sure.
Yeah.
sam tripoli
And how they like these people disappear and then they're found totally somewhere else and they can't remember what just happened.
joe rogan
Well, that's the Travis Walton story, bro.
sam tripoli
Yeah, I just saw that.
Yeah, that is a crazy story.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was one of the more interesting people that I've talked to that have had experiences.
Because he, you know, I'd say the same about Bobazar.
They don't seem like they're lying.
They don't seem at all like they're lying.
Lazar seemed like he was telling me, you're it's gonna sound crazy, but here's a story.
That's what it seemed like.
Like, it did not seem like a guy making up a story.
And then you go back and see him talking about it in the 1980s.
He's talking about the same way.
sam tripoli
Exact same topic.
joe rogan
I'm inclined the more time goes on.
sam tripoli
Well, that's the meeting with Eisenhower, where he makes a deal with them, with the aliens, is that they want to be able to do tests and kidnap and all that stuff.
But he makes a deal that you can only do it in the forest.
You can't do it in the regular places.
So that's why people go missing in the forest.
Now, obviously, bad things happen and people, you never get here from that again.
But supposedly these people disappear and then they're found a couple days later in a totally different place and they can't remember what just happened.
joe rogan
Well, if I was going to do it, I mean, I had a bit in my act about it.
That's what I would do.
I wouldn't land on the White House lawn.
I'd find some dude cooking meth.
Just snatch him up.
And like, go tell somebody.
You're not going to, nobody's going to believe you.
sam tripoli
Nobody's going to believe you.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's, if you're just looking for biological studies, if you're just doing tests on people, a lot of people have talked about hybridization programs that they're exposed to like their children.
Like they had been multiple times they had visited and then they were shown like a human alien hybrid that they were told is their child.
sam tripoli
Wow.
Dude, that is crazy.
joe rogan
Guys are getting fucked by female aliens.
Female aliens are like holding them down, riding their dick.
Like actually having sex with them.
sam tripoli
Trannies are from the future.
joe rogan
No, I don't think they're trannies.
I think they're aliens.
They're just a different kind of whatever the fuck we are.
I think we're a combination of whatever some intelligent, advanced species, whatever.
Well, the God ultimately for the whole thing, for the whole ball of wax.
But I have a feeling, just like we've done weird shit and created poodles, I think someone might have come here and for lack of a better term, monkeyed around with our genes and added some good shit.
You know, and that's in a lot of ancient texts, man.
That's in a lot of ancient depictions of how the gods created men.
sam tripoli
And that's how Nephilim's come.
Fallen angels, the daughters of men.
joe rogan
It gets weird.
That's where it gets weird because nobody wants to even consider the possibility that we have been genetically engineered.
No one wants to consider it because it's kind of crazy.
But also, guys, look how different we are than everything else.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
I mean, it's kind of weird.
sam tripoli
Yes.
And they can't explain the jump from monkey the man.
Yeah.
There's no link to that.
joe rogan
Well, there's links.
I mean, there are transitionary fossils.
Like you can see like Australiopithecus.
You can see the different ones.
But there's a lot of weirdness in there that it doesn't cover.
And one of them is the doubling of the human brain size over a period of like between, I think it's somewhere around a million or two million years.
The human brain size doubled.
And it just, they're like, what happened?
What happened?
Maybe it was mushrooms.
Maybe it was.
But also, maybe mushrooms are aliens.
And that's real possible that that's an alien life form that like exists on our planet and gives you enlightenment if you consider it.
sam tripoli
I want to microdose during jiu-jitsu.
That's what I would like to do.
I would love to.
Didn't you just have that one politician on talking about Rick Perry?
The book of Enoch the woman.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Anna Paulina Luna.
sam tripoli
Well, you know, it's like that's a super, you know, you bring up Gnosticism.
Christians go get really upset.
I don't know what the answer is.
You know, I mean, I'm a spiritual man.
It's like one God.
Jesus is my Savior.
That's what I'm into right now.
It makes me happy and it vibrates in a higher level.
But if you study Gnosticism, you know, the whole story of the Demiurge is very interesting.
That's where fallen angels mating with the daughters of men come from.
And that's where the original feminist was.
The first ever feminist was Sophia, who was the feminine energy of the universe.
And literally, she was like, I don't need a man, right?
She literally sounded like, I don't need a man.
And she creates life.
And she instantly knows she made a mistake, which sounds like every single mother to me, right?
So she creates the demiurge.
And the demiurge doesn't understand about the higher table of gods.
And he thinks he is God.
And a lot of people believe the first God of the Testament is the Demiurge.
Okay, and his whole thing is about just basically he wants to destroy humanity.
That's kind of what everyone talks About in Satan, but Sophia gave us the spark of life.
She gives us a spark.
joe rogan
Wouldn't you want to know?
Like, go back to the time where they were writing the Bhagavad Gita.
sam tripoli
I would love that.
joe rogan
But what do you know?
sam tripoli
Yeah.
How are you riding?
I think about that all the time.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what are these flying crafts you're talking about?
sam tripoli
Yes, dude.
joe rogan
And the Vedic texts.
sam tripoli
And so, so you talk about fallen angels.
A lot of people think that's Christian mumbo jumbo.
I don't believe it is at all because the Vedics talk about it and the Hindus talk about it about God trapping entities in this realm that we live in.
So I think the Vedics were for the Hindus, I think, or two or three.
And then we have the 33%, which is the fallen angels.
And then they come down, they get trapped here.
And that's the whole thing about transhumanism is that they're trying to figure out how to get out of here.
joe rogan
Have you ever seen Lazar talk about the weirdest shit that he heard when he was at S4?
sam tripoli
No, what was it?
joe rogan
He said the weirdest shit was they said they had a very thick file that was about religion.
And basically what it boiled down to is at least what this file was saying was that they view us as containers.
sam tripoli
Yes.
joe rogan
And he wasn't specifying containers of what?
Like containers of souls?
And like, I don't know, but that's the terminology they used.
They view us as containers.
Can you imagine if like a soul is an energy that you have to farm or that you have to extract, just like how we extract oil from the earth, that souls are things you extract, and so you need to grow a bunch of them.
So you need people to just fuck up a storm and clutter up a planet.
And really what you're doing is just farming souls.
sam tripoli
Yeah, dude, that's so.
joe rogan
Can you imagine you think that you're an OnlyFans model and you're a DJ at a strip club and you're a football player and you're a top scientist and you're this and you're that and every, but really on the highest level, you're just in a farm.
You're in a farm and there's a super intelligent entity that's above and beyond anything you could ever comprehend.
And the only thing it doesn't have is souls.
So I need souls because souls are a real element.
It's just like you need cobalt to make a battery.
sam tripoli
Yeah, that's the belief.
If you actually need a soul, we're the battery that runs the simulation.
So deep, dude.
joe rogan
Why wouldn't it?
Why is that weirder than black holes?
You know, why is that weird?
I was watching this thing on Twitter yesterday.
I still say Twitter.
sam tripoli
I do too.
joe rogan
They were discussing this black hole that's as big as our galaxy.
That seems weirder.
That seems even weirder than we were genetically engineered.
We were genetically engineered.
It seems like some shit that we would do.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like I met the, I've had Ben Lamb and Beth Shapiro on from Colossal.
Those are the people that brought back the dire wolves.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what are we doing?
sam tripoli
By the way, do you know what else that guy did?
joe rogan
What else did that guy do?
sam tripoli
That guy created it so that you can store files in DNA.
joe rogan
Whoa.
sam tripoli
You can actually store file.
So I had a guy on.
He's like, you know where the Epstein files are?
They're in somebody's DNA.
That's what they get.
You could look it up, Jamie.
The guy literally created that you could put files in people's DNA.
joe rogan
Whoa.
That is some guy that did that.
sam tripoli
The one who did the dire wolf.
Well, they're a guy.
joe rogan
They're doing a bunch of stuff.
That's Ben Lamb.
They're doing a bunch of stuff.
And, you know, they're eventually going to bring back the mammoth.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
And they're going to, yeah.
sam tripoli
I don't know how it feels.
It seems like some Jurassic park shit where it gets harder.
joe rogan
That's what I said to him.
unidentified
I said, it's, you know, this is like the beginning of the movie.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's kind of crazy.
sam tripoli
Weird shit you're bringing back.
joe rogan
The thing is, if they, it gets.
sam tripoli
What is the purpose of it, though, dude?
What is your thought on why we should be bringing these back?
joe rogan
Because it's cool.
That's it.
sam tripoli
Sometimes the simple answer is the right answer.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Sometimes you bring things back just because it's cool.
Should you bring back dire wolves and let them loose?
No.
They're bigger than regular wolves.
They're super powerful.
You're making a mistake.
Like, regular wolves are hard enough to deal with.
And dire wolves might very well like to hunt people.
It's like super possible.
sam tripoli
Yeah, it's like introducing those anacondas or boas into like the Florida Everglades.
It's like they're just dominating.
joe rogan
Just bringing regular wolves into a place fucks everything up.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look what's going on in Colorado.
sam tripoli
How about the cute animals?
Can we bring back cute ones?
joe rogan
Yes.
sam tripoli
That's what I'm looking for.
joe rogan
Cutie pies.
Bring back the cutie pies.
But then they're all going to get eaten because you're going to have to eventually let them go and then something's going to fucking prey on them and then you're going to have a disaster.
Or they're going to wind up eating a bunch of shit that they're not supposed to eat.
And they're going to kill some species off.
That happens all.
That's like Australia's got multiple cases of different animals they brought in to combat different animals.
And now they have like feral cats everywhere.
unidentified
Jeez.
sam tripoli
Have you ever heard of orphan trains?
joe rogan
What?
sam tripoli
Have you ever heard the orphan trains?
This reminds me of the orphan trains.
I remember when I was a kid, I would see cartoons and they're like, this orphan train's going to go off the tracks.
And I'm like, why are there a bunch of orphans in the trains?
And then you start getting into what that really is.
This is where cabbage patch dolls come from.
joe rogan
What?
sam tripoli
Genetic.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you saying?
sam tripoli
Orphan trains, dude.
joe rogan
What is an orphan train?
sam tripoli
The theory is, you know, and they kind of did this in Canada with the indigenous, where they sent them to other parts of the country so they couldn't learn any of their culture.
And basically the thought is that either they brought kids from where they were born and brought them to other parts of the country and gave them to the elites to raise as children or do whatever they wanted to do with them.
Yeah, here it is.
joe rogan
Okay, it says orphan trains were large-scale social experiment in the United States where orphaned, abandoned, or homeless children were transported from crowded eastern cities to rural areas in the Midwest to be adopted or placed in homes.
Between 1854 and 1920, excuse me, 1929, an estimated 200,000 to 250,000 children were relocated primarily by the Children's Aid Society and its founder, Charles Loring Brace.
This movement is considered a precursor to the modern foster care system.
sam tripoli
So that's a very clean version of it.
But the whole belief is that these are the children of, I'm just going to throw out a name out of Tataria or stuff like that, and that they're the children of this to kind of erase history.
Well, it gets even crazier into Cabbage Patch dolls, right?
These cabbage patch kids.
And they had these world fairs where they would literally sell like incubated children.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sam tripoli
Have you heard of that?
joe rogan
No.
sam tripoli
And Jerry Seinfeld says both his parents were those type of kids.
joe rogan
What is incubated children?
sam tripoli
If you look up World Fair Cabbage Patch doll kids, basically almost like science-grown science laboratory children.
joe rogan
Hold on.
What are you saying?
sam tripoli
What?
joe rogan
I can't hear you, Jamie.
jamie vernon
Something weird popped up when I Googled it.
I'm trying to figure out what this is before I. What is it?
Well, I'll show you.
We're not anywhere real yet.
sam tripoli
Cloning.
joe rogan
Cabbage Patch kids and the mystery of repopulation postcards.
sam tripoli
And Seinfeld says his parents are both those.
And they would have displays at World where you could go and get a kid.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
What do you mean his parents were...
Is that what you're saying?
sam tripoli
I think he said his parents were either orphan-trained kids or cabbage patch kids.
And a lot of people think that's where the NPCs come from.
joe rogan
Orphan-trained kids would mean that his parents were orphans and they were shipped off to another hand.
sam tripoli
Or whatever they were being told.
You know, but that's what he said.
joe rogan
Well, we have to Google that.
sam tripoli
That sounds like a Sam Tripoli crazy thing.
joe rogan
We have to make sure that that's correct.
sam tripoli
Okay.
joe rogan
That sounds crazy.
sam tripoli
But it was.
joe rogan
I don't understand what the cabbage patch thing is, though.
What are you saying that is?
sam tripoli
They were cloning kids.
joe rogan
Well, when was cloning even possible?
When did it first become possible?
sam tripoli
Hundreds and hundreds of years they've been cloning.
jamie vernon
There's a thumbnail that links all three things he's talking about together, but I don't know where this goes.
joe rogan
Bro, you go down the wrong Reddit threads, don't you?
sam tripoli
No, dog.
At all.
joe rogan
It's like cabbage patch babies, so they're growing them in a cabbage patch, and then World's Fair incubator babies.
sam tripoli
Look at that guy over there holding two babies up.
These are incubator babies.
joe rogan
That's what he's saying.
So what is an incubator baby?
Is it raised entirely in an incubator?
Like, what does that mean?
How early 19 boardwalk attractions save thousands of premature babies' lives.
Oh, okay.
So it's premature births.
sam tripoli
Ah, that sounds like, I don't know, man, because supposedly.
joe rogan
But I do know that people do do that when a child is premature, right?
They put them in an incubator.
sam tripoli
But the word is that you could get a kid there.
joe rogan
So you could buy a kid?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So someone would have this premature birth and then put the kid up for sale?
sam tripoli
Maybe.
I mean, that's what this is trying to tell us.
I don't know if that's real, though, but that goes back to the world fears and we talked about before.
It's just like technology beyond what we understood and what we know now.
And they wipe that all out.
joe rogan
Why would they do that?
Do you think they wipe it all out or do they think they hide it in secrecy?
sam tripoli
Well, they probably still have it, but they don't want us to have it.
joe rogan
Like, what do you think happened with all of Tesla's notes when he died and whatever organization spoke into his home?
sam tripoli
Trump's uncle.
jamie vernon
Yeah, Trump's uncle got him.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
sam tripoli
He went in there early because he was in Yale.
And then he grabbed them all before.
And that gets into that little Baron Trump book and The Last President and all that stuff.
That's like time travel stuff, which I think is totally possible.
I think time isn't this.
I think time is this.
And everything's going on at one time.
And it's like a book.
Like, if you're reading a book, you can be on page 46 and 46.
That's the reality of the time.
But you can jump to page 320, and now that's reality of time.
And then you go back to page 18.
And that's the reality of time.
I think it's that's.
joe rogan
So do you think that you will eventually be able to manipulate that or we can?
sam tripoli
I think we already can.
joe rogan
Who's we, though?
sam tripoli
The masters of mankind.
joe rogan
The Illuminati man.
sam tripoli
The masters of mankind.
The 13 families.
The 13 families made deals with fallen angels.
That's my power.
That's the power structure of the world.
joe rogan
And what method are they using to travel back and forth through time?
sam tripoli
Whatever technology they got.
joe rogan
So do you think that if let's say they back and back engineer UFO in 1947 and these companies get involved that know how to make technology, all these different contractors, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, whoever it is.
They manufacture a time machine.
They manufacture a time machine based on what they have learned and they start to use it and they go back and forth and move around.
Do you think eventually they'd want to tell somebody?
sam tripoli
I think they know.
Or do you think they just use it for their own?
Again, it goes back to data.
They know who is crazy enough, who can keep a secret, who can do all that stuff.
That's what they always say about if they fake the moon landing.
They're like, wouldn't somebody in there say something?
Well, people do say something and they end up going missing.
But most of them understand that they're in on it.
The only people getting into that room are the ones that they know are in on it.
Have you ever seen when India landed on the moon?
Have you ever seen that video?
joe rogan
It's just a probe, right?
sam tripoli
It's not even a probe.
It's like an Atari graphic that lands in a fucking moon.
Cuber had better graphics than that.
And they're all cheering in the room.
They're all high-fiving each other.
joe rogan
You don't think India landed a probe in the moon?
Can I see it?
I want to see if I believe it.
I've had so many people that...
jamie vernon
It's pretty bad.
joe rogan
Let me see.
Is this guy full of shit?
What happened?
All right.
Let's see it.
No, that can't be real.
sam tripoli
Yeah, that's what they're landing.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
Hold on.
We're seeing just flashes of it.
jamie vernon
I mean, this wouldn't be a live video of it because you would be landing two things at the same time.
joe rogan
But I want to see what happens when it actually touches down.
unidentified
Wait a minute.
joe rogan
That's it?
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hold up.
Okay.
Everyone needs to go to jail.
jamie vernon
You guys all need to go to jail.
joe rogan
You guys all need to go to jail.
That's so fake.
sam tripoli
But they're all...
joe rogan
What did you do with the money?
What did you do with the money?
sam tripoli
They got their own island.
joe rogan
You sons of bitches.
Yeah, dude.
How dare you?
Imagine how much money they spent on that probe.
sam tripoli
But that's everybody in the room.
So if you look at the JFK assassination, right?
So he goes into that plaza.
They're all assassins in that plaza.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sam tripoli
Like, everybody's in on it.
joe rogan
Well, there was a lot of people in on it.
sam tripoli
Yeah, and they all go missing and end up dead.
joe rogan
you know my friend Evan he had a really good point about that Evan Hafer from Black Rifle Coffee he said during the Bay of Pigs when they told Kennedy don't Get in there, dog.
unidentified
Sorry.
joe rogan
You know, when they told Kennedy about it, and he didn't allow the airstrikes.
He didn't allow airsport.
sam tripoli
Yep.
joe rogan
That fucked everybody.
sam tripoli
Those on the beach.
It's Joni.
joe rogan
Hardened.
No, that was different.
Operation Northwoods was the arm Cuban friendlies and attack on the bank.
sam tripoli
Well, that was all part of how to pull Cuba into war.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
So, but the Bay of Pigs thing in specific, those guys had a plan based on airsport, and then they didn't get that air support and a bunch of people died that shouldn't have died.
It's like, those are the types of people you could have gotten to kill Kennedy.
sam tripoli
Yep.
Yep.
joe rogan
What do you got for us, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Play something?
joe rogan
Did it look better in the other videos?
jamie vernon
No, no, no.
I was looking to see if there was.
They did land two things at the same time.
But whatever that was, it's clearly not supposed to be a video of the live landing.
There's no way.
joe rogan
Looked like it to me.
sam tripoli
And the guy's standing up and he's like, no, I just did that.
joe rogan
That sucks.
jamie vernon
It's not even supposed to.
I don't think that's what it's supposed to be.
It's like a description to show them.
Instead of just looking at numbers.
joe rogan
Oh, so they don't have actual video of it.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it makes more live cameras with it.
That's like a third thing.
joe rogan
Which is yeah.
Well, the moon landing from the 60s when it did it, you only saw it from inside the lunar module, that beautiful aluminum foil craft.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
With a golf cart that's like almost twice his size.
joe rogan
How'd they get that golf cart that thing?
And how'd you get enough power to get off the earth or get off the moon, rather?
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
How'd you get that camera to pan perfectly and catch?
And how'd you get the signal of the video footage from that camera and send it up into space in 1969?
And how'd you talk to Nixon on the phone from space?
How are you calling Nixon from fucking space?
sam tripoli
Stop.
Yep.
Yep.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sam tripoli
But here's the thing.
Oligarchies help oligarchies.
So they're all in on it.
joe rogan
Well, I bet they're all in on a lot of shit, which is good because that's what keeps us from going to World War III for real, for real.
sam tripoli
So recently we're being told there's this giant AI race with China.
Okay.
joe rogan
You don't believe it?
sam tripoli
And they want to pass a law.
No, I don't believe it.
And I'll tell you why.
Yeah, I'm very serious.
I pointed it at the sign.
But the point is, so they tell us there's this giant race with AI.
And if we allow China to just get a fraction ahead of us, it's over.
So to the point where they pass a law where you cannot, no state can pass any laws that get in the way of technology with AI.
And everyone's really upset about because 10 years of AI is an insane amount of time.
So who knows what will happen with it?
So we're being sold that we're in this AI race with China.
Well, just about a month ago, we sent China a bunch of AI superconductors.
And I go, hold on.
We're like in a race with these guys and we're sending them superconductors.
We and the United States government.
joe rogan
So what did they send?
sam tripoli
They sent a bunch of, well, you looked us up, superconductors or something like that to the people we're supposedly in a race.
And it reminds me of when I was a kid.
joe rogan
I'm going to need to know specifics.
sam tripoli
That's why Jamie's here.
joe rogan
I'm just...
sam tripoli
When I was a kid and we were in the Cold War with Russia and we were in a nuclear arms race.
I remember being a kid and seeing on the news that we were sending aid to Russia.
And I always go, why are we sending aid to these people if we're in a cold war with them?
And then I realized because Russia was never going to be able to keep up with us.
That was just used as a smokescreen to get us to be, hey, man, spend all the money you need to build all these weapons because we have to be in the lead.
joe rogan
We are paying off the Taliban.
sam tripoli
20 mil, what, a week, dude?
joe rogan
First of all, how many people are even in the Taliban and how many more are they recruiting because they're making $20 million a week?
sam tripoli
I remember when Joe Biden pulled out of Afghanistan, I was like, oh, dude, great.
He ended, you know, and I wasn't a Biden fan, but when somebody does something you like, you got to kind of Give them their props, and then he's like, Yeah, and we're leaving all the weapons there.
Have you ever seen the video of the plane leaving?
You want to look at something that's just a complete joke.
joe rogan
Well, people were falling off of it.
They were trying to hang on to the wheels.
sam tripoli
No, watch when it's coming out on the runway.
It looks really weird to me.
joe rogan
Do you think the plane's fake?
sam tripoli
It's got painted windows.
Okay.
And people are running along.
It's the weirdest video I've ever seen.
It makes no sense.
There's a 9-11 on it or a 119 on it.
It's a very weird.
joe rogan
Right, but it did happen.
Like, people did take off in the last planes, and people did.
sam tripoli
I'm not saying that didn't happen, but I'm saying that video is super weird.
joe rogan
You know, sometimes video just looks like shit.
sam tripoli
Have you ever seen the Anne Haiti crash?
Have you ever seen that video?
joe rogan
Yeah, this is one thing at a time.
Look at that.
One thing at a time.
Okay, well, this is a cargo plane, right?
So it's an enormous plane.
sam tripoli
Looks weird.
joe rogan
It doesn't have any windows.
So there's that.
sam tripoli
Well, the windows at the top, but the black ones.
joe rogan
Well, that's for the pilots, bro.
But the rest of the plane is all solid.
So it's a cargo.
No, no, no.
It looks like a giant cargo ship.
And these people are trying to climb in.
Like, look at this, man.
They're trying to get inside that cargo ship.
That is nuts, man.
And the thing is moving along on the ground.
jamie vernon
You can see through these windows.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can see.
That's a regular cargo ship, brother.
That's a giant military cargo ship.
sam tripoli
That looks weird.
joe rogan
But it's weird how these guys are like laughing and cheering.
sam tripoli
Yes.
It just looks weird to me.
joe rogan
But the whole thing was crazy.
First of all, they felt like they defeated America and sent them home.
So there was that.
And then there was the fact that we left behind all kinds of crazy shit.
Blackhawk helicopters, tanks.
And then they do parades where they parade down the street with all our ships.
sam tripoli
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, you get into Afghanistan.
It's the same thing reason we went into Vietnam, which was the poppy.
Nobody knows that about Vietnam.
Everyone thinks it's about stopping communism.
If you watch the fog of war, he says like they were never going to, Vietnam hated China.
They were never going to work together.
But you sell it as we got to stop communism.
Now you go in and you get all the poppy fields, the golden triangle.
joe rogan
Well, the most transparent of that was when Fox News had Geraldo Rivera talking to one of the generals on the ground.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was like, sir, one of the military leaders, I don't know if it's a general, why do you have military people guarding the heroin fields?
It's like, well, we need to get the trust of the farmers on our side against terror events.
They're like literally like fucking U.S. armed soldiers guarding drugs.
And then the production goes through the roof.
And it becomes like 94% of the world's heroin is produced in...
Oh, well, I don't know.
sam tripoli
And we're grabbing artifacts.
joe rogan
Some Anunnaki shit in there that we need to do.
sam tripoli
Who knows it's in the Vatican type shit.
100%.
They think that's the weapon of mass destruction they were talking about was the Stargate in Iraq.
joe rogan
That was a weapon of mass.
I thought it was a gate.
I thought it was a gateway.
Go to the dimension.
sam tripoli
That's what they're talking about.
They want control.
joe rogan
That would be the weapon of mass destruction.
You go into the future, get some awesome weapons, come back, fuck everybody up.
Like everybody watching a movie about the Revolutionary War.
They're all running around in muskets.
You just imagine, bro, imagine just storming in there with a tank.
Fucking everybody.
They don't even know what a tank is.
Yeah.
They're just helicopters shooting them out of helicopters like pigs.
You know, that's what you think of when you think of like modern weaponry.
Now, imagine applying that times a thousand years, getting that modern weaponry, bringing it back to this timeline.
Do you think that you can travel back and forth through timelines?
Or do you think once you travel once, you're stuck there?
But what if you travel back to a time when there's no time machine?
You might be fucked.
unidentified
Yeah.
sam tripoli
Or it's like, you know, you see movies about this all the time where you're like, you got to go exactly to the place.
You got to get it right or you go to a dimension you don't even know what it is.
joe rogan
What was that article you just pulled up, Jamie?
Iraqi Stargate Conspiracy, a modern perspective on an ancient mystery.
Look at that building.
Bro, what were they doing?
4,100-year-old, massive tiered shrine lined with giant staircases.
How weird, man.
sam tripoli
Dude, our timeline is way more interesting than anyone even understands.
joe rogan
It really is.
It really is when you get into ancient history.
sam tripoli
Yep.
joe rogan
It's so strange, especially when you read their stories and, you know, like all the Anunnaki, Nephilim stuff, and then you see the buildings they were creating.
Like, what?
sam tripoli
Or the doors that are so huge or the steps that are too big for people to go up?
joe rogan
Put it back up, Jane.
It says mysterious military bases near ancient sites.
U.S. established military zones near ancient Mesopotamian ruins such as Ur, how do you say that?
unidentified
Nineveh.
joe rogan
Nineveh and Babylon.
Some speculate this was to prevent independent researchers from accessing the sites.
sam tripoli
To control the information.
joe rogan
The alleged time warp incident.
Some claim that strange time anomalies and electromagnetic disturbances were reported by soldiers in Iraq, further supporting the idea of an active portal or advanced technology buried underground.
Is there any scientific basis for a stargate in Iraq?
How could there be?
Lack of physical evidence, no concrete rule.
Well, you don't have access.
Mythological misinterpretation.
Sumerian texts describe the Anunnaki as deities, but scholars believe these are mythological representations rather than historical accounts of extraterrestrial beings.
Okay, but that's just someone's opinion.
And scholars are notoriously poopy pants when it comes...
Notoriously poopy pants when it comes to data comes in.
Yeah, they don't like to change their opinions on shit.
No confirmed technological technology retrieval, despite years of military presence in Iraq.
No official reports have suggested that any of the advanced technology was discovered.
But if it was, where would it go?
Defense contractors.
Right?
The same thing is like the UFOs.
Like if they really did have a crashed UFO, and I'm in the middle of a great book.
Richard Dolan has a, let me find the name of this so I don't fuck it up.
It is UFOs for the 21st century mind.
Why can't I fucking talk today?
There's a lot of stuff in there that I had never considered before.
And one of them, when they were talking about the crashed UFOs, they did a bunch of like high-altitude explosions of nuclear bombs in the 1950s.
They like just shot them up 150 miles into the sky and then blew them up.
They did it a bunch of times.
Like you could have easily fucked up a UFO if they didn't know you were doing that.
If they had no reason to believe and they're just hovering there watching Earth and then all of a sudden, boom.
sam tripoli
It's interesting to me because you remember when we had the balloon?
What is this?
jamie vernon
What does this change?
These are CIA reports.
I don't know how accurate they are, but it's a report nonetheless.
Creation Day 2016 documentary release dates is 98.
Read the first paragraph, I think if you can It's weird.
joe rogan
Where should I read it from?
jamie vernon
The third line of weather would be a problem.
Hold on, it said something about military.
joe rogan
Whether rainstorms would be a problem in the southern area in three to five days.
Some heavy equipment movement is anticipated in near term in Kuwait within one to three days.
Iraq will launch missiles into Saudi Arabia areas.
jamie vernon
Keep going.
joe rogan
Frontline troops will not advance.
Future potential strikes may occur in areas B, blah, blah, blah.
jamie vernon
Iraq army will have two special weapons, some type of, quote, interference device that causes electronical and mechanical to quote freeze up.
Some type of energetic beam type of device that may be located in the sand area.
See figure one.
Whoa.
Preemptive action is not anticipated until February 91.
Surprise attack may occur at any time from Kuwait.
Whatever energetic beam under the sand.
That's where I was.
joe rogan
Huh.
jamie vernon
See, like activity in the vicinity of Mecca.
This is a strange.
These documents pop up in the UFO world all the time.
joe rogan
That's why I was like, is this a legit document?
jamie vernon
Again.
joe rogan
Yeah, who knows, right?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
This is a FOIA document.
It says it comes from the Stargate collection.
Huh.
sam tripoli
That's such an interesting.
joe rogan
Also, if I had to print in paper some shit that's like super top Secret that no one's supposed to know that we have.
I would say Iraq has it, so we could use it on them.
Yeah, blame them and say, oh, yeah, Iraq had some beam weapon.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was it.
And it was destroyed.
We destroyed it.
sam tripoli
Especially if you're putting in a paper where you know people could read it later on because of the FOIA request.
joe rogan
Well, they probably didn't anticipate that, right?
But then on top of that, it's like, I mean, they overestimated the Iraq Army's capabilities as is, right?
Like, that was one of the things about it.
It's like they were always saying, like, Hicks had a joke about it.
It's the fourth largest army in the world.
He's like, yeah, well, after the first two, there's a real big drop off.
He goes, Salvation Army's number three.
sam tripoli
I loved him, man.
joe rogan
But that was a great joke about that because that was a cakewalk, that first Iraq war.
They went in, fucked everything up.
The war was over really quick.
So, I mean, imagine how disgusting a human being you'd have to be to invade another country, find secrets that changes the way human beings would view our history.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the history of technology that has existed here completely remaps the entire landscape.
You're going to hide it.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
Well, that's the whole Vatican library.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
sam tripoli
Like, what's in there?
joe rogan
Right.
What's in there?
sam tripoli
I want to know what's in there.
joe rogan
Did you seen that Tibetan one?
sam tripoli
No.
joe rogan
Oh, it's crazy.
There's this ancient Tibetan library, and there's this video of this guy walking past these texts.
He's fucking thousands of years old, these texts.
And they're all in these bound books on these shelves that nobody's touching.
unidentified
See if you can find the what's in there.
joe rogan
Well, what about the Library of Alexandria, which all the secrets of Egypt were in there?
All the probably depictions of how they built the pyramids, who did it, when it happened.
Erasing our whether or not they found them already built.
That's a real possibility.
Claim of 10,000-year-old Tibet Library fine, not worth paper it's written on.
But there is some sort of a Tibet library.
I'm not saying it's 10,000 years old, but I think it's 1,000 years old.
It was just, there was a library of these ancient books.
Like this, is that real?
Is that bullshit?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's bullshit.
That's what it says.
Oh, okay.
That's not exactly the one that I saw, but it was just like that.
But it wasn't.
jamie vernon
I always thought that AI probably took that photo and animated it.
Now, that's been going around a lot.
joe rogan
Oh, no, no.
Yeah, but this is like at least a year ago, what I had seen.
But it might have been bullshit then.
It might have been a different kind of bullshit, not AI.
AI bullshit is going to make everything impossible.
sam tripoli
Have you ever heard that most wars are about erasing history?
joe rogan
Most of them?
sam tripoli
Like a lot of wars are about erasing our history, going in there, destroying areas that have a connection to the past.
And that's a big part of World War II, was just destroy all this old history so nobody learns about it and knock it all down and rebuild it.
jamie vernon
Here is a video of 40,000 volumes of scriptures, but I don't know what they are.
joe rogan
I think this is exactly the video that I saw.
sam tripoli
That is so crazy.
joe rogan
Okay, so this is a Tibetan Buddhist library.
And did it say how old those things are?
They're pretty amazing, though.
But it's just kind of freaky to think that you're even reading a piece of paper that was handwritten by someone a thousand years ago.
And you open it up.
What's that, James?
jamie vernon
How long that thing goes on?
joe rogan
Oh, it's bananas.
sam tripoli
What is it?
10,000 books?
joe rogan
Imagine if they decipher it and it's all porn.
It's all just.
sam tripoli
And then she took on five guys.
joe rogan
It's all just like 50 shades of gray written over and over and over again.
sam tripoli
It's crazy out there, man.
What's going on in the world right now is nuts.
And it's just like, I think something, I think what's going on in Gaza is crazy.
I think it prophesies that...
So I have about eight guys from high school that I'm on a text thread all the time.
We talk all the time.
It's kind of where I got my ability to kill hecklers because we just shit talked each other forever.
Like we stopped fighting at one age and we just started annihilating each other.
So then it's just like natural to me.
Like what's what's trauma as a kid sometimes becomes your strength as a As an adult, so I got really good at that.
Every time I fly home, they just light me up.
It feels so good, right?
So I go to college.
My friend Tony, he goes to Alfred.
He comes back, he gets religion, right?
And he is, and every summer I go home from college, we'd sit down, we'd talk spirituality, and he would always tell me things he learned.
Well, one time, like in the late 90s, they bring me out to their church, is having a like a band.
Guys in the church are in the band.
And hand to God, dude, they're singing songs about in the late 90s about two towers coming down.
Hand to God.
I remember hearing that going, that's kind of crazy.
And then 9-11 happens.
I go, "Whoa, that's some prophecy." So Tony always tells...
It took a long time.
joe rogan
But when did they build them?
When were they officially opened?
jamie vernon
60s.
joe rogan
60s.
jamie vernon
Sorry.
Completed in the 70s.
South Tower completed a 70%.
sam tripoli
Dude, there's a great video I have on Instagram that breaks down the whole 9-11.
It's this animation.
It's so fucking good, dude.
joe rogan
So do you think that those planes were remote controlled?
sam tripoli
I would take they were missiles that look like planes over passenger planes.
Yes.
joe rogan
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
So you think that they disguised a missile to make it look like a plane?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You saw the way that it was flying.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
It flew like a bad plane.
sam tripoli
But you can't fly like that.
If you talk to pilots, it's impossible to go at that speed in a passenger plane that low, that fast.
It's just, and you talk to people who you talk to pilots, they say they could never have done that.
There is technology for them to take over the plane because it's supposed to stop a hijack.
They can take over the plane and cockpit from the flight.
That's definitely possible, but I think they were military missile planes, if that's what hit the planes, if that's what hit.
joe rogan
So what happens to the actual planes themselves under your theory?
sam tripoli
I mean, everything could be just a story to laid down.
I think the story of the 19 hijackers is just another layer of deceit, you know, that they set a foundation for this story they want us to buy.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Sam, the people did die, and the planes did crash.
sam tripoli
I'm not saying they did.
I mean, if you.
joe rogan
But it doesn't make any sense because it looks like a plane.
It flies like a plane.
It leaves in the exact airport.
They track it.
They know where it's going.
It flies in the storm.
sam tripoli
If you study Operation Northwood, they literally tell you what they're going to do.
joe rogan
I know that.
sam tripoli
Which is what?
They fly.
joe rogan
I know that Operation Northwoods, they had a drone plane and they were going to blow it up and blame the Cubans.
I know that.
So what that tells us is they had drone planes in 1963, which is kind of crazy.
Right?
That is kind of crazy.
And that was signed by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and vetoed by Kennedy.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
But why would you think it's a missile and not just a drug?
sam tripoli
A drone plane?
joe rogan
It's possible it's a drone plane, but I think it could be possible flying like a plane.
Like, what makes more sense to me is that they took over a plane and remote control whoever they is, whether it's the terrorists or whatever demonic entities took over the remote-controlled plane and flew that motherfucker into those towers.
sam tripoli
I don't necessarily know.
I mean, yeah, that's definitely possible.
joe rogan
That makes more sense.
The thing that didn't make sense to me was like the box cutter thing is weird because just a mass of people, you're going to take a chance.
There's not some big guys on the plane that are going to overwhelm you.
You're going to get access to everything with box cutters.
sam tripoli
Yep.
joe rogan
Maybe, maybe you would.
Maybe with the right plane, you know, but with the wrong plane, I could see you getting fucked up by a group of hard men.
unidentified
Yeah.
sam tripoli
People acting crazy, all the guys jumping up and you could just catch the wrong fucking plane.
joe rogan
Like the fact that you would just take a chance like that, your plan involved being able to control people with box cutters.
There's only a few of you, right?
How many guys were on each plane?
sam tripoli
Yeah.
I mean, there's, what, four planes?
There's 19 hijackers.
I mean, break it up into four or five guys every plane.
unidentified
Yeah.
sam tripoli
It's hard.
joe rogan
And then like there's just numerology five guys with razors is harder.
sam tripoli
You study the numerology 9-11.
It's all El Ster Crowley, occult rituals, the plane numbers, how many floors, how many feet the Pentagon is.
joe rogan
You go deeper in the rabbit holes and I like to go.
I like to go like three quarters of the way down.
I go, yeah, this sucks.
And then I get out of there.
sam tripoli
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
But I go all the way to the bottom, which I don't know is always accurate.
sam tripoli
But the world's ran by sorcerers.
And once you start to realize that, everything's a rich man's trick.
joe rogan
Listen, just because the guy who's the head of the World Economic Forum looks like a wizard.
Just because he dresses like a wizard in a fucking Hobbit movie doesn't mean he's into the dark.
sam tripoli
I mean, study Michael Church.
joe rogan
Just because he dresses exactly like he was in the dark arts.
sam tripoli
Have you ever seen him at the beach?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
No.
sam tripoli
You've never seen it.
You're not going to believe this guy's.
I know you're not.
No, he's not.
He's in a.
He's in a bride lingerie and a hat.
joe rogan
No.
sam tripoli
Yes.
joe rogan
Let me see.
sam tripoli
Can you tell me?
Dude, it looks exactly like.
You're not going to believe it, but I totally think that's him.
joe rogan
This is one of them images you found online because I think I've seen this one.
And I said, oh, that's a good idea.
sam tripoli
He's in a dick cage.
I think he's walking in a dick cage.
Come on, look at it.
Dude, tell me that's not him.
Tell me, that's not him.
joe rogan
It's not what I'm saying.
sam tripoli
Dude, when you're that high, you're in the weird shit.
joe rogan
It's a fake photo, I thought.
sam tripoli
What?
unidentified
Yeah.
sam tripoli
What do you mean?
How do you know?
You just looked at it.
Oh, Roy.
Roderick.
Oh, facts.
joe rogan
Reuters says.
sam tripoli
Okay, then if Reuter says, because they've been able to get it.
joe rogan
Let me see the photo.
Let me see that photo.
sam tripoli
That's it right there.
joe rogan
That ain't him.
sam tripoli
No, but that's pixelated, dude.
You find a good picture of him.
It looks exactly like that guy is into the weird.
You're the head of the WEF.
You're into the weirdest shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he's not going to go out and pop.
Come on, dude.
sam tripoli
Yeah, he doesn't.
joe rogan
That doesn't even look like him.
That looks like a younger guy.
sam tripoli
Look at that.
You're telling me that the exact same guy.
joe rogan
No, make it a little bigger.
No, it doesn't look like it.
No, no, it does not look like him.
That guy's a different chin draw structure.
Go to the other guy.
That's different.
This guy has a lot more jowls.
No, no, no.
No, he has a lot more jowls.
He looks a lot older.
This guy looks like a 60-year-old freak, and he looks like an 80-year-old.
sam tripoli
But that dynachrome keeps you young.
joe rogan
No, he's not young in any of these photos.
But in that photo, that's a different guy.
That's a different human.
Someone's just being funny.
Like, that ain't him either.
sam tripoli
Imagine your doppelganger is that weird and that gay, and there's just pictures of him doing weird shit on you.
Yeah.
joe rogan
One of my favorite characters in the Biden Chronicles was that one bald-headed guy with lipstick that was stealing women's clothes.
sam tripoli
Oh, that guy was the best.
joe rogan
Like, who would have thought someone who dresses like that would be fucking weird?
sam tripoli
Not only steals the clothes, wears the clothes to like giant events where people get that.
One lady's like, that's my dress.
joe rogan
But she's a designer.
It was a one-off.
It was a one-off dress.
Like, it had to be her dress.
This guy would just steal luggage.
What?
But imagine like seeing that guy and going, I think he's got his shit together.
He should be running the government.
sam tripoli
Be like, you know what?
This, you know what this security system needs?
Trans.
That's what we fucking.
joe rogan
That's his job.
What was that guy's job?
sam tripoli
I thought he had something to do with the FAA or something like that.
That's some crazy stuff.
joe rogan
Rachel Levine.
Oh, she was another one.
Like, what is this?
Craziness.
sam tripoli
Well, that's what I always say.
Like, you know, it's like everyone about Trump right now and all the stuff going on with him.
I go to the difference between Trump's cabinet and Kamal Harris's cabinet is Trump's all claused neocons, and Kamalas would be BLM, fat feminist, and trans.
That would be the difference between who's standing behind them.
It's all the same shit.
It's two wings of the same bird.
Now, I like Trump more than I like Kamala.
These people are just absolutely ridiculous thinking they would be anything different.
joe rogan
It's a completely corrupted system at this point.
sam tripoli
100%.
joe rogan
Completely corrupted.
And no one in like six months, whatever Trump's been in by now, or four years, or even eight years, is going to totally untangle it.
sam tripoli
No, it's so deep, and it's at every single level.
Deep, though.
Every single level, dude.
Deep.
Deep.
And that's what the internet did.
Took our eyes off them.
Here.
joe rogan
Thank you.
sam tripoli
Took our eyes off the local stuff.
joe rogan
I bet it'd be a great podcast.
sam tripoli
Imagine going, that guy should be in the U.S. government.
joe rogan
That's what I've been saying.
That's what I've been saying.
Take a plea deal.
What's that?
jamie vernon
Department of Energy.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
sam tripoli
Oh, yeah.
That's who I want to run the power.
joe rogan
Check out them windmills, son.
sam tripoli
Look at that, dude.
Wearing lipstick.
It's just not funny.
And then sending him to represent us at all these international conferences.
joe rogan
I wouldn't care if he was good at his job and didn't steal women's clothes.
I wouldn't care.
Like, if you want to show up for work, I'm sure you're good at your job.
Yeah, but I mean, yeah, I don't want either one of those things.
But I mean, if you just show up and you work real hard, but you don't want to wear a dress, like, okay.
Mike likes wearing dresses.
I don't care.
Like, why would I care?
I'm wearing shorts.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's kind of the same.
It's not much different.
There's, oh, there's a little piece of cloth that tucks under your taint.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's so much different than a skirt.
sam tripoli
I would wear pajamas if people would let me.
I'll go.
I'd love to do stand-up.
joe rogan
I'm a job.
And you had a regular job and you wore pajamas.
Like, who gives a fuck?
sam tripoli
Yeah, he's a weird one.
Sam wears pajamas to do stand-up.
joe rogan
Isn't it weird that they expect certain jobs?
Like, they expect if you wear a suit, you're going to behave differently.
You know, more professional.
I've got a suit on.
I can't be bothered with normal talk.
Right?
Like, if you just showed up with shorts and a t-shirt, like, Mike's not even serious.
Look at him.
He's dressed like a fucking idiot.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you dress a certain way.
And they think of you as a different kind of person.
sam tripoli
100%.
So I was watching this video the other day and it was about how actors way back in the day looked so much older.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
sam tripoli
Like the guy from All in the Family was 46.
joe rogan
I know.
sam tripoli
And then actors today are 56, look like they're kids.
Yeah.
And they were talking about it's because everyone smoked all the time and they all wore like suits and proper clothes that made everyone else.
No one worked out.
Yeah.
joe rogan
No one worked out.
Yeah.
No one.
sam tripoli
So when you hit 46, it was like, yeah, we're, you know, as a nation, we're getting fatter and fatter, but there's also a segment that is getting more jacked and jacked to jiu-jitsu guys, the CrossFit guys, the Thai boxing dudes.
You know, they're all getting more and more fucking shredded than ever.
Yes, there are a lot of fat people, but there's also, in my opinion, way more in-shape people, too, because they're just more people.
joe rogan
I would agree there's more in-shape people now than ever before, but I think the average person is in worse shape.
The average, there's like outliers, people that work out all the time, and there's more of those than ever before.
But we're getting fucking poisoned.
We're getting our food is terrible.
sam tripoli
This is one of the.
joe rogan
The RFT Jr. thing was one of the most important things of this administration, I thought.
Like, get in there and find out.
How do these companies have this grip on what they're putting in the American diet?
How do these companies have this grip on what medications they're making sure that you take every year?
And how many, you know, and they're not responsible at all for the adverse effects.
Like, this is crazy.
And, like, him getting in there and just trying to at least untangle some of that fucking evil octopus mess.
Just all the different tentacles of control.
Oh, yeah.
And the fact that they're telling you, oh, we know these dyes cause cancer and you can't use them anywhere else in the world, but we have to use them here or it'll hurt our company.
sam tripoli
Yeah, that's crazy.
joe rogan
And it's the same company that makes stuff that they send to Canada that doesn't have the dyes.
It's nuts.
sam tripoli
It's crazy.
Or how, you know, I saw Ian Carroll talking about this, how they have a drug that causes hair loss, and then the same company sells you stuff that will help your hair grow back.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, there's companies right now that are working on drugs that help people that have heart inflammation from myocarditis and issues with heart repair.
sam tripoli
There's a particular NBA legend named Creme El Du Jabbar who during the whole COVID stuff was like he was going after LeBron James really hard about not getting the shot.
And now when I listen, because I'm old, I still listen to sports talk radio, you know.
unidentified
He's doing commercials for heart problems.
sam tripoli
Like that's the craziest storyline I've ever seen in my life.
The guy who was guilting everybody.
And this was a guy who was a civil rights leader.
joe rogan
He's doing commercials for heart problems in what way?
Like what are the commercials?
sam tripoli
Heart fibiotos.
Can you look up what Cremel Dujabar heart heart commercials?
He's talking About how he's AFib?
AFib?
joe rogan
He is?
sam tripoli
Yes.
But this was a guy who was full-on in the civil rights movement, who understands, would have a great understanding of the black community's relationship with pharmaceutical companies and what, you know, that famous thing where they let everybody have syphilis forever, and then they sent like black nurses to convince them.
Yeah, AFAB.
So he was a guy who was pushing everybody.
Oh, dude, that's so crazy.
It's with Pfizer, too.
And he was a guy who was pushing everybody to get the jab.
He was like really going after LeBron James, who didn't want to do it.
And then now he's doing these commercials, which is so crazy to me.
joe rogan
But did he have that before he got jabbed?
sam tripoli
I never heard of that.
It's possible, but I never heard of it.
But it's crazy that he's on both sides of that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It is kind of crazy, but a lot of older people got real scared.
That's one of the things that happened.
A lot of old people, when COVID came around, got real scared and they wanted to believe that the pharmaceutical drug companies had an answer.
And they didn't want to hear any nonsense from the anti-vaxxers.
sam tripoli
Well, you saw they rolled it out, right?
Like it started with China, and we saw these videos of people falling down, even though that never happened when everybody got COVID here until what?
They got the jab, right?
And then we started seeing people, ga, gun, ga, you know?
So do you watch how they slow rolls these psyops out?
joe rogan
The crazy thing is watching the compilation of all the newscasters faint on Twitter.
sam tripoli
How about when they see something and they freak out and then they fall down?
That's the weirdest thing.
joe rogan
It's all weird, dude.
It's all weird.
It's weird that we all watched it in real time.
The Heather McDonald video.
I mean, it's almost like the universe had a script, right?
The Heather McDonald video in particular.
sam tripoli
She's like, I got all the jab.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Boom.
Black.
I mean, it was nuts.
It was like the perfect punchline at the right time.
You know, if you want to have evidence of a simulation, like that seems fake.
sam tripoli
That's so crazy.
She caught on camera.
joe rogan
Crazy.
sam tripoli
And then she falls back and you know something's going on because she doesn't try to brace herself at all.
joe rogan
It was so bad.
sam tripoli
It's I feel for her.
joe rogan
I like her.
Well, that was a bad fall, man.
Scary, scary fall.
But it's just crazy how it lined up that way.
And crazy how brought to you by Pfizer.
You see these people?
You see those commercials?
I mean, those compilations rather of all the different newscasters falling over.
It's like, wow.
And no one got suspicious other than these weirdos online.
All the no newscast people.
You got to get suspicious.
No media people got suspicious.
New York Times didn't get suspicious.
How many soccer players are dropping dead?
What's going on here?
sam tripoli
Healthy athletes having heart attacks.
joe rogan
Yeah, how many people are just having heart attacks when they're 18 years old, which never happened before?
What the fuck is going on?
And no one wants to admit that they made a terrible mistake and that they got duped.
So they continue to do the work of the people that duped them.
They're like, they got bit by the vampire and they're trying to bite other people.
sam tripoli
It's weird.
Yeah.
Have you ever heard that?
Okay, this is a really weird conspiracy.
joe rogan
No, from you?
No fucking way, Sam.
I don't believe you.
sam tripoli
The Chinese population.
Have you ever looked into that?
joe rogan
Oh, that the population is actually a lot lower than they said it is?
Yes.
sam tripoli
And that there's all this data that kind of lines up.
Like the amount of funeral homes have quadrupled.
China's lied about the amount.
They made all these, they listed all these fake kids going to school that aren't really going to school.
And the weird one is the amount of salt that they've imported from Japan has gone down half.
So all these people go to China, all these guys, tourist vloggers, and they're like, there's nobody around.
There's nobody here.
Where is everybody?
Look how many people are in there.
But you see this over and over again when people go to China, they're like, there's nobody around here.
joe rogan
Well, I think there's parts of it that are very unpopulated.
But you know what has always been the weirdest conspiracy for me with China is the Great Wall.
sam tripoli
Oh, where it faces?
joe rogan
Yeah.
The turrets where they shoot arrows from, that's facing inward, inward, not outward.
Not like to guard people from coming over the wall that way.
It's the other way.
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
Which is like, okay, who designed this?
What were you doing?
What are you trying to accomplish?
Why would you have it turned towards the country?
sam tripoli
It's China, right?
If you're trying to protect China.
joe rogan
Yeah, that doesn't even make any sense.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
It's kind of like when you look at like, I don't know, like a camp, right?
And they have the or a prison.
The people they want to keep in, they put all the wire and stuff this way so you can't crawl out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
sam tripoli
So it's the same thing with that.
joe rogan
Did you see how long it is, too?
sam tripoli
It is pretty.
joe rogan
What is the full length?
I think it's 14,000 miles.
Imagine 14,000 miles of stone wall built by hand over hundreds of years, and you have the openings for arrows pointed towards the people.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
Have you ever seen old, old pictures of it being built?
The people building it are like demons and shit like that.
It's like very weird, dude.
unidentified
What?
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
Old drawings, you mean?
sam tripoli
Yeah, of drawings of the Great Wall of China being built and it's almost being built by demons.
jamie vernon
I've seen something about the turrets or whatever.
They're on either all sides or multiple sides, not just facing in.
joe rogan
But sometimes they're just facing in.
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
Because this guy did a whole video on this whole stretch of the Great Wall where it faces in.
What does it click on that?
Let's see what it says.
jamie vernon
This is like talking about YouTubers sensationalizing stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Well, the thing is, it's also, again, 14,000 miles, right?
And territories change.
Right, right, right.
sam tripoli
Sometimes, you know, you see that because, like, I'm Armenian.
I'm from the village of Vaughan.
I'm Russian-Armenian.
And at that time, it was in Turkey.
joe rogan
Bro, look at this.
13,170 miles.
sam tripoli
That's so crazy.
How long would it take for you to build that?
Four ever.
joe rogan
Imagine if you live forever.
And like, Sam, you can live forever, but you have to rebuild the Great Wall of China.
But if you do, don't worry.
You'll live forever.
It's going to take you a long time.
But once you're done, you'll be free.
sam tripoli
Does it say forever?
joe rogan
Did you do it?
sam tripoli
No, I don't want to live forever.
joe rogan
You don't?
sam tripoli
No, I don't think we're meant to live forever.
I think we're meant to come here, finish a task, wrap it up.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think so too.
sam tripoli
And this whole thing about extending life forever sounds miserable to me.
joe rogan
It is weird that all these techno people are about to grasp the ability to do something that has never been done before and is very strange.
Like if you can change a human body and you can enter some sort of a chip into that person's brain that gives them entire access to the internet instantaneously, telepathic language, you know, who knows what kind of ability to control electronic devices and all kinds of different things.
And someone gets to decide whether or not that happens to the human race.
sam tripoli
Yes.
joe rogan
Because once it happens, you're not putting that cork back on the bottom.
It's out.
It's going to give an advantage to people.
So everyone's going to want to do it.
You don't want to be a regular meat ape when all these fucking geniuses are around here reading your pin number from your mind.
sam tripoli
They're doing that.
They're doing that with babies now.
They can test IQs already.
They're doing genetic tests because these really rich people want super smart kids.
So they're making sure that the IQ of the baby is at a super high level.
joe rogan
It was also that thing in China they did where they altered the baby's genes to make them smarter.
Yeah.
We're going to have genetically modified human beings for sure in the next if they're not already here.
But I mean, they're going to be like Thor.
Everyone's going to look like Thor.
Every woman's going to look like, you know, fill in the blank, whatever you're into.
sam tripoli
It's too much tits and ass on the internet.
joe rogan
It's going to be amazing.
It's going to be such a good time.
There's going to be no sixes.
sam tripoli
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just going to be initially it'll be adopted by the rich, but then it'll just be like cell phones.
In the beginning, you know, fucking Mike Douglas had that big ass fucking stupid thing on the beach in greed.
Now that's a joke, right?
Now everybody has a phone.
You go to the jungle, people have phones.
sam tripoli
Dude, there's fat, homeless people with iPhones.
joe rogan
Everyone has phones.
sam tripoli
iPhones.
Like that's why you're never going to have a revolution when you have fat homeless people with iPhones.
Like fat?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
and they have no money.
And they're still fat.
sam tripoli
Yeah, and they're living the best life.
That's how comfortable it is.
We're just comfortable enough not to get upset.
joe rogan
Sam Triple, I got to wrap this up.
I love you to death.
I don't agree with everything you said, though.
Come on, everybody.
sam tripoli
I'm always right.
Last thing I want to tell you is that Gaza, Europe will go in and regulate it.
And that is the prediction I want to give you.
joe rogan
That that is prophesied.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
That's prophesized.
sam tripoli
Yes.
And then it's basically going to be into, it's been prophesied there will be a war between the pagans and the lost tribes, the lost tribes.
And you go through this.
joe rogan
Where hold someone go to research this further?
unidentified
Let me just tell you, I'll give you the name of it.
sam tripoli
I got a pee.
joe rogan
We got to wrap this up.
Just tell me what it is.
sam tripoli
I just got to give you a trip.
joe rogan
I've been holding on my pee for five minutes already.
sam tripoli
Okay, I appreciate you, dude.
I'll give you the name right now.
Here we go.
You can go to the Living Church of God.
It's YouTube at Tomorrow's World.
It's all been prophesied.
England, the United States, and Israel versus the pagans.
The pagans will be led like before the Assyrians, who are now Germany.
joe rogan
If it turns out to be true, I'll bring you back.
sam tripoli
That would be my third prediction I've gotten right.
I love you so much, bro.
Thank you so much, buddy.
joe rogan
Always glad to see you, my brother.
Always do it again.
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