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Joe Rogan Experience #2362 - Ralph Barbosa
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The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.
joe rogan
Let's go.
What are you doing?
We playing with magnets?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, man.
I'm checking out all your toys.
What did you say this guy's name is Travis?
joe rogan
That's Travis Walton.
And he's a guy that got abducted allegedly by some sort of a UFO in the 1970s.
And the story was so crazy that it became a movie.
It's called Fire in the Sky.
And I don't know, like I said, I don't think he's telling the truth, but it's very compelling.
He doesn't seem like a liar.
And he's been telling the exact same story for over 40 years.
ralph barbosa
I think he's telling the truth.
joe rogan
You think so?
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know anybody.
I mean, personally, I don't know anybody who's kept up a lie for that long.
joe rogan
There's got to be someone.
There's got to be someone that's like, I think people can make up a story up and then only keep that lie.
Usually, generally, when people lie about stuff, they'll lie about a bunch of stuff, especially something that crazy.
They took me aboard, a UFO, and they fixed me.
So this is the story.
The story was, these guys were all loggers in Arizona.
And so they're driving down this logging road and they see some crazy light in the sky and it goes into this area.
They pull off to the side of the road.
They walk towards it and there's this disc that's like hovering, this glowing disc.
He walks towards it and he got really close to it and he got hit with a beam of light and he falls back.
Like that's supposedly what it looked like.
That's the art depiction of it, what these guys saw.
He gets hit with this beam of light and they take off.
They're like, fuck.
And they did jump back in the truck and take off.
unidentified
He's lying on the ground.
And they get like five minutes away.
And they're yelling at each other, we got to go back, we got to go get him.
They were scared.
And they're like, fuck it, let's go back.
So they go back to go get their friend and he's gone.
So five days later, there's a manhunt for him, nobody can find him.
Five days later, he shows up, walks into town.
He's fully, it doesn't look like he's starving to death.
He's not out of water.
It doesn't look like he's been living in the woods.
It just looks like he...
Just like...
joe rogan
like a normal day.
And he tells this crazy story.
He tells this story that he got abducted.
They took him aboard this craft and fixed his body because the beam of light.
that came out of the ship from whatever, whatever energy source it was, fucked his body up.
They repaired it and they communicated with him telepathically while they were on the ship.
I forget all the details of it, but this is the film of it.
This is supposedly what he said the experience was like.
He said it was terrifying.
And he described the thing that's crazy is that they all describe the same exact creatures.
They describe these.
ralph barbosa
Who are they?
joe rogan
People that get abducted.
People that have had UFO experiences.
Anybody that's had direct contact.
Have you ever seen that movie Close Encounters of the Third Kind?
ralph barbosa
I saw that movie The Fourth Kind when I was in middle school.
joe rogan
What's that one?
Is that an abduction one?
I think they come get you?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, it's like, man, I only watched it once.
It scared the shit out of me.
I think people go under hypnosis and they remember what their abduction was like or something like that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, don't quote me on that.
joe rogan
Well, the third kind I think is contact.
I think close encounters is the first kind, it's like you see it.
I don't know what the second kind is.
This is like a list of the kinds.
The fourth kind, derived explaining is J. Allen Heineck's classification of close encounters with aliens.
The fourth kind denotes alien abductions.
Dun dun dun.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, yeah, that one.
I like how we talk about aliens, like it's like feeling on a girl, like second base.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You get to the fourth kind.
Get to the fourth base.
She takes you home.
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
But his friends, they, they're like his friends that left him, that left him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
I mean, they saw it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So they all have the same story.
ralph barbosa
That's to be real.
I don't think you're going to convince these guys.
joe rogan
Probably not, but maybe you could.
It's like, it's not impossible.
It's not like they, it's like breathing underwater.
That's impossible, right?
Okay.
Flapping your wings to the top of a cliff, you fly away.
That's impossible.
Keeping a lie is possible.
It's not likely.
It doesn't make sense.
It doesn't make sense.
One of the reasons why it doesn't make sense is Travis and one of the guys in the truck had gotten into a fist fight that same day.
Like they didn't like each other.
They hate each other.
They're workers.
They're just co-workers.
You know, logging is hard fucking work, man.
You're cutting trees and carrying trees, and it's backbreaking, brutal labor, and you get hard men.
Loggers are bad motherfuckers, man.
My friend Evan, his whole family is from loggers.
And they're just, he's like, they're the hardest fucking people you've ever met in your life.
Just hard men, like, doing this shit deep into their sixties and seventies, carrying logs.
Just a different breed of human being.
So, uh, they fucking didn't get along and they got into a fist fight that day.
ralph barbosa
So why lie for him?
joe rogan
Why would you lie for him?
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
Why would you lie for him?
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
These are hard working men, Joe Rogan.
They don't need a lie.
joe rogan
They're savages.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
Hey, did his friends get any money from that movie?
joe rogan
What friends?
ralph barbosa
His friends, that is.
joe rogan
His friends?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a good question.
That's a good question, right?
Because then it would be a reason to lie.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the movie was a long time after the actual event.
What year was the movie, Jamie?
93 93 and this happened when in the 70s in the 70s yeah there's no way like bro any day now you're getting paid I got DB Cooper later who's the guy that was the the actor DB Sweeney that's right DB Cooper is the guy that stole the money and jumped out the plane DB Cooper?
I'm confused.
Yeah, you've heard that story?
ralph barbosa
Was he the guy wanted by the FBI?
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Like a top 10 wanted or something like that?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
He stole a bunch of money and then hijacked an airplane and then jumped out of the airplane with the money.
ralph barbosa
And he died like they found the body?
joe rogan
Probably.
ralph barbosa
Or was it like a mysterious, like, what's a mysterious thing?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Oh shit.
joe rogan
You never heard that story?
ralph barbosa
No.
joe rogan
It's an interesting story, but the area the guy skyscided into was heavily wooded, and the problem with that is, if you're a skyscider and you're in a parachute and you're going into a heavily wooded place, you're going to land in the trees.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, and then you risk, like, Yeah.
joe rogan
getting Well, just cutting yourself loose, also cutting yourself loose out of the trees.
What if you're thirty feet up?
How are you getting down?
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
What if you fall getting down?
People go missing in the woods all the time and no one finds them ever.
You don't find anything.
ralph barbosa
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Why don't we hear about this more often?
joe rogan
Well, you do if you pay attention, but I don't pay attention.
You know, there's only so many things you can think about.
jamie vernon
Recent update on the Cooper story, but this is just the brief for those who never have heard of it.
joe rogan
Okay.
DB Cooper is the moniker given to the skyjacker, a dapper dark haired man apparently in his mid forties who called himself Dan Cooper.
The mystery man passed a flight attendant a note while on a Northwest Orient Airlines flight in Portland, Oregon, bound for Seattle, November 24, 1971.
The note claimed rather that he had a bomb in his briefcase, which he opened to show a large tangle of wires and red sticks.
When the Boeing aircraft landed in Seattle, the man who became known as DB Cooper freed 36 passengers in exchange for a mountain of cash and four parachutes.
The plane took off with several crew members aboard bound for Mexico City on his orders.
Wow, so he just made them fly him somewhere with a briefcase with a bomb in it.
ralph barbosa
They were listening to him.
joe rogan
So at an altitude of 10,000 feet above Seattle and Reno, he jumped from the back of the jetliner with a parachute and the ransom money, vanishing into history.
The case remains unsolved despite the manhunt, a manhunt, the FBI tenaciously interviewing hundreds of people in a cottage industry of true crime, buffs pouring through the evidence.
ralph barbosa
Nah, I do have a way.
There's no, there's no way that like he thought all this out and then was like, ah, once I get in the air, I'll just wing it.
Like the man knew he was going to jump over those woods.
He knew that the minute he landed in Mexico, they'd have some sort of like dog day afternoon.
joe rogan
Right, but he wasn't in Mexico.
He jumped outside of Portland, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was in the Pacific Northwest that he jumped, right?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, like they just took off and like twenty minutes in, he's like, all right, I'm out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
That's the biggest curve ball to throw them, because they're going to, their go to Mexico.
Go to Mexico.
unidentified
Right.
ralph barbosa
Right.
He thinks he's going to land safely and then they're going to figure out a way to Yeah, but the thing is, have you ever been in the Pacific Northwest?
joe rogan
Have you ever been in the woods up there?
ralph barbosa
Not in the woods, but I've been.
I've seen them from the highway.
joe rogan
Flaccid.
Okay, yeah, tallest trees and real dense, like this, like like a box of Q-tips.
That's how I always describe the trees up there.
Like they're really close to each other.
There's not a lot of open space up there at all.
It's all just trees.
So if you're landing in that mess, you're not going to find a spot to land.
And then here's the other problem.
If you do find a spot to land, where are you?
Do you know where you are?
Do you know how to get out of there?
ralph barbosa
I think that do he planned that part.
joe rogan
I don't think he did.
I bet he was on meth.
ralph barbosa
For real.
Probably.
Okay, that sounds more like.
joe rogan
I bet he was.
That's a meth move.
The whole thing's a meth move.
I'm gonna get a fucking bomb.
I'm gonna get him on the plane.
I'm gonna tell him I got a fucking bomb.
I want some money.
And I want some fucking parachutes.
And I'm gonna get the money.
And I'm just gonna parachute to safety.
It sounds like a terrible idea.
ralph barbosa
You think so?
I mean, I think for a second there, it can, like, if the guy was sober, I think he's a genius.
I think he's a sober genius.
You think he's just some method.
joe rogan
I think he's a method.
unidentified
I think he studied the woods for like months.
joe rogan
No way, because how are you gonna know you're going?
10,000 feet above the earth, you're going 500 miles an hour and you're going to jump.
So I want you to imagine that.
So here is this, you're going 500 miles an hour and then you jump, where are you going to land?
You're going 500 miles an hour, you have to fall 10,000 feet, where the fuck are you going to land?
You have no idea where you're going to land.
ralph barbosa
You should make tests.
Like you should be in charge of creating the SATs.
That's like question number eight, where the fuck are you going to land?
joe rogan
Well, here's the thing, back then there was no GPS.
Okay?
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
So back then all you had was a compass.
So even if you have a map, like how big is it?
your map?
ralph barbosa
Like back then people were smarter back then though.
joe rogan
No, they weren't.
Trust me.
I used to live back then.
ralph barbosa
I feel like people had to like, I feel like the further back you go in time, maybe not too far back, right?
But I feel like 70s, 60s, 50s, 40s, like people were forced to like learn maps, learn their directions, learn how to utilize a compass.
Like people were better on their feet.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
That's true.
They definitely knew more phone numbers.
They definitely knew how to get around more without any sort of GPS.
I'm addicted to GPS.
That shit runs my life.
If I want to go somewhere, I always put it in my phone.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, I can never give you like traffic updates.
joe rogan
That too.
Yeah, that's huge.
Oh, detour, fucking people.
Yeah.
And you feel happy.
Look, I got away from that traffic.
ralph barbosa
Back in the day, you just had to like memorize routes, memorize which routes were busy at what time.
joe rogan
And you had to listen to AM radio for the traffic update.
The traffic update brought to you by Costco.
ralph barbosa
Hey, who's that one guy that comes on?
I don't know if he still does.
He like, what's the story with him?
He got like really rich and he gives people financial advice.
Is it Ramsey?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Dave Ramsey?
ralph barbosa
Dave Ramsey?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Do you know him?
joe rogan
No.
ralph barbosa
Oh, I thought you knew him.
joe rogan
Back to DV Cooper.
I think that dude was on meth.
I think that's a total meth head plan.
ralph barbosa
I maybe.
joe rogan
I got a fucking bomb.
He's got a bunch of red sticks with wires.
Blow it up, bitch.
You don't know how to.
What is that?
What's in that bag?
I think he's a pure meth head.
That's what I think.
A crazy wild dude.
ralph barbosa
They say Hitler was on meth too.
joe rogan
Yes.
Yeah, most likely.
He was definitely on oxycodone and the actual Nazis were definitely on meth, for sure.
ralph barbosa
They gave Nazis meth?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, man, there's a great book.
Is it out there?
jamie vernon
It's in the other room.
joe rogan
It's in the other room.
It's called Blitzed by, how do you pronounce his name?
Norman Oler.
Norman Oler, right?
Oler.
Norman Oler.
Great guest too.
He was amazing.
But he wrote this book about all the meth they took during World War II.
It's all about, like, the most meth they took.
ralph barbosa
Wait, so he was a Nazi that wrote a book?
unidentified
No.
jamie vernon
Oh, he's a researcher.
joe rogan
How dare you?
ralph barbosa
I want to read a book.
What's the by a Nazi?
joe rogan
Well, you'd have to read, like, Mein Kampf, and you have to read it with, like, a book cover on, so people don't think you're a psycho.
ralph barbosa
Well, I mean, we got to know what they were thinking.
You know what I mean?
People should read it.
joe rogan
That's the book.
That book is great.
ralph barbosa
Blitzed.
joe rogan
So they were all on that.
ralph barbosa
That's Hitler just all fucked up off of meth.
joe rogan
Well, Hitler was definitely on Oxycodone and He was on a bunch of other shit.
And he had a doctor.
It's a really good book.
You should read it.
It's very interesting.
Because it lets you, it gives you a totally different insight into why they were behaving the way they behaved.
Like the Kamikaze for example.
You know, they flew their planes right into the ships.
They were on meth.
What?
Yeah.
That's why they did it.
ralph barbosa
But like what kind of meth?
Like crystal meth.
But like okay, but like how were they taking it in?
Were they just like smoking the pipe and then hopping in the cigarette?
joe rogan
Good question.
That you can eat it, first of all., there were pills and there were actually prescription pills that the government would give out in Germany.
What's it called?
Previtin?
jamie vernon
Previtin.
joe rogan
Previtin, previtin.
So this previtin stuff was essentially an over-the-counter methamphetamine that you could buy.
That's how many people were on meth.
ralph barbosa
I feel like a lot of the most popular drugs at one point or another are like over-the-counter medication.
Or like previtin.
At one point, right?
Oh yeah, like cough syrup.
Like everybody's doing promethasine.
I mean, they still are, right?
But then they had to ban it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, syrup.
For every war an abused drug.
What is this, Jeremy?
jamie vernon
It starts off with, I didn't know ISIS uses a ADHD drug.
ralph barbosa
ISIS is on Adorama.
joe rogan
Captigon?
Captigon sounds like a fake drug.
That sounds like a drug in a movie.
The kids want Captigon.
ralph barbosa
It sounds like it was made by the guy who made adamantium metal.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
So it was an early ADHD, a failed ADHD drug.
It was banned almost globally in the 1980s, but a few Middle Eastern nations are still producing it.
What does it do?
A stimulant gives some sort of euforia and a sense of purpose.
Let's bring that shit back from the movie.
ralph barbosa
Euphoria and sense of purpose.
joe rogan
Stop trying to give me some fucking vaccines that I don't need.
And what about giving me a little euforia and sense of purpose.
Little yellow tablets seem to be fueling much of the mayhem in Syria, but illicit drug use on the battle, on the battlefield isn't new.
jamie vernon
And that's Pervitin.
joe rogan
Yeah, so the methamphetamine Pervitin was distributed to soldiers in preparation for the war.
And what's interesting about that is they had different doses for different people.
Like the dudes in the tank at the very front, they got the most meth.
ralph barbosa
Damn.
joe rogan
Of course.
You're gonna need it.
You have the craziest job.
ralph barbosa
It's just like, because they would have to stick their heads out of the tank, wouldn't they?
unidentified
and then like so there it is fucking go right now fucking turn around shut up again boom boom boom I mean, you imagine what it sounds like when a fucking tank cannon goes off.
joe rogan
She says the U.S. military distributed an estimated 200 million amphetamine pills to its soldiers during World War II, and Japanese kamikaze pilots in the Pacific used it in their final fateful missions.
ralph barbosa
Oh, U.S. military.
Our guys were on meth too?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ralph barbosa
World War meth.
joe rogan
U.S. military distributed an estimated 200 million amphetamine pills to its soldiers during World War II.
Yeah, well, this is, look., if you have soldiers and they're in combat, you want them to live and succeed.
You don't give a shit if they're, oh, they're taking steroids.
Good.
Give them all the steroids.
Give them every fucking thing you can give them.
Give them EPO if it helps their endurance.
Give them steroids.
Give them shit that makes them more aggressive.
Give them things that make them more confident.
Give them everything.
Give them beta blockers.
Give them whatever the fuck works.
They're in combat.
Like it's that's important.
So if you got amphetamine.
Give that shit up dog.
ralph barbosa
Do you think anyone was like they stayed addicted or anything?
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, one hundred percent.
ralph barbosa
Would it be cool if I went up to like a World War 2 veteran with like a pipe and like torching at the bottom?
joe rogan
I don't think they do it that way.
I think they were taking the pills.
ralph barbosa
You don't just do like the party, old man.
joe rogan
Just crush some of those pills up, put it on the table, maybe they'll snort it.
ralph barbosa
I learn, I learn a lot when I'm here.
I feel like a lot of your guests, like, they have so much to like share with the world, but I just come here just ingest.
joe rogan
Well, I'm ingesting too, Doc.
Child soldiers in Africa.
Why couldn't I say that word right?
Child soldiers in Africa are commonly given a mixture called brown brown, which is cocaine and gunpowder.
ralph barbosa
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Whoa.
This is ingested by inhaling it in the nostrils, a method that rapidly affects the user and is conducive to addiction.
What about the gunpowder makes it better?
jamie vernon
Also here, as you were saying that too, back to the Civil War, they were used in alcohol.
joe rogan
Yeah, American Civil War soldiers were often given alcohol prior to battle as a form of liquid courage and as a means of steadying their nerves.
Huh?
World, wow.
Nile Ferguson concluded that World War I could not have been fought without alcohol.
During World War II, amphetamines were used.
Yeah, amphetamines are better.
If you've got a choice between alcohol and amphetamines, like, bro.
ralph barbosa
I was watching this dude, man, I forgot his name..
He like gives these lectures on history.
David?
No, I don't know.
I'm waiting.
joe rogan
Dan Carlin?
ralph barbosa
Nah, that's not it.
Wait, can I pull on my phone?
joe rogan
Yeah, sure.
jamie vernon
I don't know.
ralph barbosa
I feel like he's like school.
joe rogan
What was he doing lectures about?
ralph barbosa
I don't know.
I was only watching him because I was like, I better brief up on something to talk about.
Because last time I was here, I was, you know, I read the comments on the last time I was here and people were like, ah, this episode, this dude is not so cool.
He's like, he's not interesting.
The last guy was better.
That was a great episode, the last guy.
So I'm like, all right, well, who is he?
You know?
And that dude was like out here.
I think he was like a fighter pilot talking about aliens, like spinning it.
And I was like, why?
Why did Joe put me after that fucking guy?
Like, you know, on the way here, on the way here, the driver was like, yeah man, the other day we drove the Irish comedy writer, uh, ended up getting cancelled and this and this happened and fucking they took his shows off.
But there's all this controversy.
And I'm like, now I have to go against this guy.
unidentified
Like, that guy's like, you can't think about it that way, man.
joe rogan
That's just freaking out.
We're having fun.
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ralph barbosa
Look, this guy's name is Dr Doctor Roy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Casagranda.
joe rogan
Okay, and what is this deal?
ralph barbosa
So I was watching this video where he explains like what led to World War two.
joe rogan
Oh, interesting.
ralph barbosa
But he spends like 45 minutes talking about the hundreds of years before World War one even and how that kind of came into play.
So first he like first he explains how World War one came into play because to understand why World War two happened, you have to understand what caused World War one, you know?
And I forgot where I was going with this.
joe rogan
Just history.
History of war.
ralph barbosa
Oh, yeah, yeah.
No, so everything I listen to it.
I had to listen to it like three times because I kept getting distracted and stuff.
But it sounds so sophisticated and it makes sense if you listen to it all.
I'm like, okay, I get why World War One happened now.
But then finding out that everybody was just like drunk and on meth the whole time, it just sounds like it just was such a broy idea to go to war.
Like it's all the sophistication behind it.
But then at the end they were just like, Fuck it, let's just get fucked up while we're out there though.
joe rogan
Well, all those old time English gentlemen, they all wanted to go to war.
It was a it was a it was a browie thing.
It was almost like a frat boy thing.
ralph barbosa
Well, everybody wanted to conquer land back then, right?
And just rule empires and shit.
I feel like we should go back to that.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
ralph barbosa
I feel like the stuff is too leisurely now.
It's too comfortable.
joe rogan
That's true.
But we need to teach people that leisurely is not good for you.
You don't need artificial, you know, you don't need the kind of conflict that's going to ruin cities and kill people.
Don't go back to that.
That's stupid.
We just need to understand how to manage the human body.
ralph barbosa
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Manage the body.
Manage your brain and your body.
ralph barbosa
That's the most minor interpretation of it.
joe rogan
But we need to figure out a way to keep people from being aggressive and keep people from being greedy and keep people from stealing resources.
And we need to curb some of the worst aspects of human nature.
And I think the only way to do that is mushrooms.
ralph barbosa
Everybody has like mandatory.
joe rogan
Mandatory mushrooms.
ralph barbosa
Mandatory mushrooms.
joe rogan
If I become president, mandatory mushrooms.
Well, Mushroom Day.
And afterwards, everyone's just going to hug it out.
Go, I don't know what I was thinking, man.
I'm sorry.
ralph barbosa
It's like an adult vaccine.
Yeah.
joe rogan
A vaccine for human stupidity.
But I mean, that's our problem is that we're managing human behavior, right?
We're managing, we want to steal resources from this country because they got all the natural gas and this country got all the minerals.
So we're trying to make some sort of side deal with the rebels to throw the government.
That's what's the most of the problems in the world.
It's people being cunts.
ralph barbosa
The huron, huron, before I forget this.
What do you have?
You said two things.
Earlier, you said that was the most minor interpretation.
joe rogan
Yes.
ralph barbosa
And then right now you said, uh, what did you say?
Cure the stupidity.
joe rogan
Human stupidity.
ralph barbosa
The cure for human stupidity.
Yeah.
Cure for human stupidity.
Yeah.
Minor interpretation, the most minor interpretation, that should be the title of my next special.
And cure for human stupidity should be the title for your next special.
joe rogan
There's no cure, but we need to guide a larger percentage of people in the right direction.
And that, like worldwide, would that be the only way we save this experiment of the human race.
unidentified
The only other way is AI.
AI is a way that might save us or make us obsolete.
Yo, AI, that's some scary shit.
Because I don't know if it's real.
I saw this video.
I don't know when it was shot or how recent or not recent it is.
Because all I'm watching is just Instagram reels, right?
It's a minute.
At the longest, it's like a minute long.
So this could be a minute from some movie from 2002.
ralph barbosa
it could have been recorded but there's a video supposedly the that said the godfather of ai warns people about the dangers of ai but i'm like why like if that's real if whoever was behind AI, whatever team it was, is like, hey, but be careful with this.
It's like, why did you make it then?
Like, I feel like they just did it to jerk themselves off.
Like a real Oppenheimer thing where he's like, now I've become death destroyer of world order.
It's like, why did you do it then?
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Well, it's the same kind of thing in that you have to do it because if you don't do it, your enemy is going to do it.
If your enemy gets hold of it, the whole world is very different.
The idea is that if America does it, America, we kind of suck in some ways.
We suck with some of the things we do with other countries.
We suck with some of the ways we spend our taxes, but we're the best out there.
We're the best option right now.
It's the best way to run the world.
It's the best way to behave in terms of like your freedoms, having as much freedom as possible.
No countries have this combination of freedom of speech, First Amendment, Second Amendment.
There's a lot of rights that we have in this country that are just different than the whole rest of the world.
I think it's the best way to do it.
And we like to think of ourselves as being the most benevolent of all the superpowers.
We're the best ones.
The other ones are evil.
They're communists.
They're run by dictators.
We're trying, like, that's why everyone's afraid of Trump being a dictator.
We don't want any dictators in this country.
So if we develop AI first, we won.
That's good.
Just like we developed the nuclear bomb, we dropped a couple of them and said, Now back the fuck off.
We're done here.
We don't want to do this anymore.
And then we never did it again.
So that's good.
Now if Germany had developed the atomic bomb first and nuked Britain and nuked America and just went on a nuke spree before we could ever develop one.
ralph barbosa
You see?
joe rogan
Imagine how different the world would be.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
You've ever watched those videos, the AI videos of like two celebrities making out.
It would be like Elon Musk kissing like Trump, Brad Pitt.
Sorry Trump, you know?
unidentified
Yeah, I've seen those.
ralph barbosa
I feel like we had to make a couple of those and then tell the world, like, all right, now back the fuck off.
joe rogan
Do you know how many times they blew up atomic bombs for tests, though, after that?
I'm learning more and more about that recently.
I'm reading this new book right now by this guy, Richard Dolan, who's a UFO researcher.
And he's talking about one of the things that they were doing was they were doing altitude detonations.
So they were detonating these nuclear bombs 150 miles above Earth.
They did a bunch of them.
They did it like a bunch of times.
ralph barbosa
And then, doesn't it stay in the air?
joe rogan
They didn't even know.
They were just experimenting and testing.
There's a bunch of shit they they did that is so wild.
You know, like, John Wayne did a movie in the Nevada Desert near where the test sites were, where they blew up like, I don't know how many hundreds of fucking nuclear bombs out there.
They blew up tons of nuclear bombs.
ralph barbosa
And then John Wayne just went out there and was like, The whole cast got cancer.
The whole cast?
joe rogan
The whole cast got cancer.
John Wayne died of cancer.
Like, a giant percentage of the people that worked on the show on that movie got cancer.
ralph barbosa
Imagine.
joe rogan
You're going to find that, the results of that.
ralph barbosa
Imagine being on the team who's like sending the nukes into the air and then you just kind of see like the clouds stay in the air.
Like, I wonder who's the first guy to be like, ah shit.
joe rogan
They didn't even understand that.
No one had been subject to large-scale radiation before.
It was a new thing.
Especially from a detonation, it had never happened before.
There was no meltdowns yet.
There was no Three Mile Island or Fukushima yet.
Article 1980 in People Magazine reported that out of the 220 cast and crew members, 91 had contracted cancer, with 46 deaths, led to the film being dubbed an RKO radioactive picture.
The controversy surrounding the film location and subsequent health issues has been a point of discussion and debate amongst historians and scientists.ists.
But yeah, like the amount of bombs that they detonated.
ralph barbosa
Was it a good movie, at least?
joe rogan
I don't think it was.
It might have been that Genghis Khan movie.
Was it the Genghis Khan movie?
Oh, it was a piece of shit.
ralph barbosa
What is that movie rate on Rotten Tomatoes?
joe rogan
It has to be a zero.
It's so bad.
It's John Wayne playing a Mongolian, which is the craziest thing of all time.
It was the ultimate whitewashing.
ralph barbosa
He's doing Mongolian face.
joe rogan
And he talks like this.
unidentified
Ten percent on Rotten Tomatoes.
ralph barbosa
This is what you got cancer for John Wayne.
joe rogan
I know you got cancer for the worst.
The Conqueror.
And look how hot she is.
She's like completely European looking, his girlfriend.
Like, place him in this because it's so stupid.
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
Fall off a horse.
Look how hot she is.
ralph barbosa
Woo!
She's all impressed by him.
joe rogan
took her clothes off Under his heel, the cowering nation.
Look at this.
unidentified
He took what he wanted when he wanted it.
Morty beats his fire with ice, matches his fury with flame.
Your hatred will kindle into love.
Before that day dawns, Mungo, the vultures will have feasted on your heart.
Oh shit.
joe rogan
Bro, I mean, come on.
This is the dumbest movie ever, The Cane John Wayne Cancer.
ralph barbosa
Bro.
joe rogan
It's so bad.
Like, how bad is that movie?
ralph barbosa
Women always talk about how, like, I was reading this article where they were trying to trash F one.
joe rogan
The movie?
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
And they were like, Oh, another movie where the only woman working, because like the girl in the movie, she's like the first, uh, what is she?
Like the team director or something for an F one team, like the first woman with her.
It's like, and she doesn't., you know, like she doesn't level up until Brad Pitt unlockes her potential, like, oh, like, we need a man for that.
But it's like, bro, women have the best roles in movies.
joe rogan
Not in that movie.
ralph barbosa
I mean, yeah, she got it.
She got hit pretty hard.
But if you think about it, this is a movie about, like, oh, Genghis Khan conquering so much, but the best thing he conquered was the woman.
Like, really?
You know what I mean?
Like, the woman's always like the main prize of the movie.
joe rogan
Well, throughout history, that's one of the things that people did go to war for.
ralph barbosa
Women?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
Nobody went to war for some dude's butt.
ralph barbosa
A lot of I feel like a lot of war could have been prevented then if, like., porn had just come around much earlier.
joe rogan
No.
Because porn's out now and there's still plenty of war.
ralph barbosa
That's true.
So what are they going to war for now?
joe rogan
Resources.
You see, all it is is like tricking people.
Tricking people into doing something for you.
ralph barbosa
Women and resources, man.
Women and resources.
When are we going to learn?
joe rogan
It's just money, man.
ralph barbosa
There's enough women and resources for everybody.
joe rogan
There's not though.
ralph barbosa
Not?
There's at least enough women.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they're not the same.
Here's the thing.
For women, I think the number is women are only attracted to twenty percent of the men.
So like, one hundred percent of the women outomen out there are only attracted to 20% of the men.
ralph barbosa
That kind of makes it fun, you know?
You gotta hope you're in the 20%.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you're not, you're fucked.
ralph barbosa
If you're not, you just go to war.
joe rogan
And there's more of those dudes that are in the 80% now than ever in history that we know of, right?
Like, isn't there, like, when they do the studies of the amount of people right now currently that are celibate, that are not having any sex at all and not by their own decision, not by their choice, I think they're higher now than they've been for a long time.
ralph barbosa
People are going celibate?
joe rogan
On accident.
unidentified
They're just knowing they're unfuckableable.
joe rogan
Nobody wants to fuck them.
ralph barbosa
Celibacy.
joe rogan
That's real, man.
That's like a real problem.
A bunch of people are just sitting at home and watching TV all day and ordering DoorDash.
ralph barbosa
I think you gotta like split your time up.
You know what I mean?
I think celibacy could be good for like a week or two and then you gotta be like, all right, no more DoorDash.
Let's get out there.
joe rogan
Just get out there.
Stop being a pussy.
ralph barbosa
Get married or, you know, get into relationships, have an affair.
joe rogan
Well, don't be just jerking off all day.
That's crazy.
ralph barbosa
I actually want to write a self-help book, but not like a real one.
Like maybe like a joke one, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
But something that I don't think my stand-up comedy would ever get me canceled, but I think maybe like a book.
But I want to call it something like, like, you're not autistic, you're just 25 and like an asshole or something like that.
And then it's a whole book just tell people, like, get off your ass, man.
Like, stop making excuses.
joe rogan
What do you do for real autistic people that read that book though?
unidentified
They're like, hey, he says I'm not autistic.
ralph barbosa
I'm like, you're not autistic then.
Believe what you want.
joe rogan
How many people do you think are autistic?
What percentage?
ralph barbosa
I don't know.
I feel like probably a lot.
unidentified
But I think there's like, there's like, there's like, how many people are saying they're autistic so they get like extra credit?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, I think it's like, I think it's like being like, like, what do you call it?
Like Apache or whatever?
unidentified
Like Cherokee.
ralph barbosa
Where you're just like, oh yeah, I'm like one eighth.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm one eighth autistic.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm kind of psychic.
unidentified
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Like, so I think if you come up on the spectrum, it doesn't mean you're like enough.
Yeah.
Like you've seen people with like full-blown autism and the struggles they have to go through in life.
Like somebody has to be in their life.
You know what I mean?
Like to.
joe rogan
Yeah, for nonverbal people.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Or like just whatever.
unidentified
But you can't like be a...
You can't just like wake up, you know, play video games...
ralph barbosa
Like, oh, I didn't want to shake that guy's hand because I'm just like autistic.
joe rogan
Like, yeah.
ralph barbosa
Like, motherfucker, just look at the person in the face.
Don't look him in the eyes.
Just look him in the face or something.
Just don't be rude.
Like, I feel like a lot, I feel like a lot, and maybe it's because of the way I grew up, but like, if I tried to use autism as an excuse to get out of doing stuff, I think I just would have gotten a smack in the back of the head.
I think they would have smacked the autism out of me.
The one eighth, at least.
joe rogan
I don't think I have any autism in me.
ralph barbosa
No?
joe rogan
Unfortunately.
ralph barbosa
Why say unfortunately?
joe rogan
Maybe it helped with math, helped with numbers.
ralph barbosa
Chabby?
I think Jamie's autistic.
How does he, How does he, maybe not autistic, maybe just knows how your brain works?
How does he know to highlight the exact sentences you should read?
joe rogan
What's the difference between, because he's smart.
What's the difference between, and he's been doing this forever.
What's the difference between Asperger's and autism, like the technical difference?
Because they're kind of interchangeable, right?
ralph barbosa
Are they both like communication type?
joe rogan
A lot of times people say the spectrum, they call it the spectrum.
Like, oh, he's on the spectrum.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Where?
Like, spectrum could be anywhere.
Like, you could be, you could be, like, you could have a touch, just a touch of the chism, you know?
Or you could be, like, full blown.
jamie vernon
I don't know if this is official, but here's an explanation.
unidentified
Key characters.
joe rogan
In autism, significant delays in language may be nonverbal or of limited speech.
Asperger's typically no language delay, advanced vocabulary for age.
Interesting.
Autism varies widely from intellectual disability to above average intelligence.
And then Asperger's usually average to above average intelligence.
Autism, social interaction difficulties may show less interest and engagement.
And then Asperger's desire social interaction but struggles with social cues and nonverbal communication.
So it seems like Asperger's is like the upgraded autism.
It's like autism is too risky.
You could, you know, get a kid who's nonverbal, but go with Asperger's, you might get a genius.
ralph barbosa
Everybody wants autism though.
joe rogan
Well, I think they really would want Asperger's if you showed it to them.
It's like Seattle's Niagara.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, if they knew.
joe rogan
Yeah, if they knew.
ralph barbosa
I think people will use autism as like, oh, look, I'm not average.
I'm actually high-functioning autism.
Like, I'm actually a genius in this class.
joe rogan
Right.
People definitely use, they love to be a victim of something.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They love to have some sort of ailment.ment that you don't know about, you know?
People love that.
ralph barbosa
I'm not, I'm not like that.
You know, I'm diabetic.
I never tell people.
joe rogan
You're full-blown diabetic?
Like full-blown.
Type one?
ralph barbosa
Not like, not like with the other food stuff?
Yeah, type one.
joe rogan
So you're born with it?
ralph barbosa
No.
I got it when I was like six.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Type one when you're six.
That's crazy.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, they just cured type one diabetes in a woman with stem cells.
ralph barbosa
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It was the first of its kind.
Was it China that did this?
See if you can find it, Jamie.
But yeah, you know, they're they're using stem cells to try to treat all sorts of different things and one of the things that they were really successful was with this lady they cured for the first time ever type 1 diabetes.
ralph barbosa
How do they give you the stem cells?
joe rogan
It's a good question.
ralph barbosa
Do you put it in a pipe?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
I think they inject it into you.
ralph barbosa
But it's not too bad.
joe rogan
But if this means you might not have to take insulin.
Do you take insulin right now?
Yeah.
You might not have to take insulin.
They might be able to fix you.
ralph barbosa
How do I get these stem cells?
joe rogan
Let's see what it says.
What is the it doesn't say.
It says World's first stem cell therapy reverses diabetes.
So where was it from?
Where did it happen?
Groundbreaking title in Peking University.
They took cells from three people with type 1 diabetes and reverted them to pluripotent state, meaning they could develop into any type of cell.
This technique originally developed by Shinya Yamanaka at Kyoto University nearly 20 years ago was modified by Deng's team to use small molecules instead of proteins, allowing for better control.
They used these chemically reprogrammed stem cells to create 3D clusters of insulin-producing isolates, which were tested for safety in animals in June of 2023.
The team transplanted about 1.5 million isolates into a woman's abdominal muscles, a new approach., as most isolate transplants are done in the liver, by placing the cells in the abdomen, they could monitor them with an MRI and remove them if necessary.
The operation took less than 30 minutes.
Two and a half months after her transplant, the woman with type 1 diabetes started producing enough insulin on her own, and she has continued to do so for over a year.
How about that?
Her blood sugar levels are stable 98% of the time, eliminating dangerous spikes and drops.
That's crazy.
unidentified
What?
ralph barbosa
Was this in China?
joe rogan
I believe so.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
Badass.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
What if I met this doctor and he was like, all right, I'll do the operation on you, but you have to say.
my name correctly the first time.
It was Yamanaka Shinoya.
joe rogan
Practice it.
I would say practice it if you want not to have diabetes.
What kind of question is that?
ralph barbosa
Shinya.
joe rogan
They might be able to connect you up.
ralph barbosa
Okay.
joe rogan
What do you think?
ralph barbosa
I don't know how do I like, how do you even start that process?
You just go to China?
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to go to China right now.
Get out, get out of here.
I get on a plane.
ralph barbosa
I have to finish this press tour.
I'll cure diabetes after.
joe rogan
I bet it's going to be mainstream within a few years.
If that worked and that's reproducible.
ralph barbosa
Dude, I want to go to China now for real.
joe rogan
And like, it'll probably be in America too.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because what they're saying, the way they're laying it out, it sounds like there's a paper on it.
And that, that thing that, was that, was that a published paper?
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's called VX 880 Zips.
I can't say that.
ralph barbosa
I guess I should probably wait until they do, like, a few more patients, right?
It's like PS5s, like you want to let the first round go out first with the ones with the bugs and stuff.
joe rogan
No, fuck it.
I would go right in there.
Let's go.
Let's see.
Let's see if you could fix me.
jamie vernon
Yeah?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You don't want to deal with insulin all the time.
That's annoying.
How often do you have to do it?
ralph barbosa
Ah, before a meal.
And I usually eat about three times a day.
joe rogan
Oh, so you have to give yourself three injections a day.
That's annoying..
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
And since you were six, you've been doing that?
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
I'm a little tired of it.
joe rogan
Does it Yeah, well, this might be it, man.
This might be able to fix you.
ralph barbosa
What if I miss the shots though?
jamie vernon
Like, here's a trial I think they've done in the US with twelve people.
ralph barbosa
Oh, they did a trial with twelve people, mm.
joe rogan
participants.
Demonstrated engraftment with glucose responsive endogenous endogenous endogenous endogenous endogenous indigenous.
Why can't I say endogenous?
Like, how did I not read that correctly?
Endogenous C peptide production, which is durable through one year of follow-up.
Wow.
ralph barbosa
What does that mean?
joe rogan
That means a year of follow-up, it was still working.
unidentified
It was doing good.
joe rogan
Had a reduction in exogenous insulin use, meaning reduction in daily insulin use by 92%, so they still had to take a little bit of insulin sometimes.
So I bet this is something that you could probably do more than one time.
jamie vernon
These were all off of a one dose they got one infusion.
joe rogan
So if a full dose and then you have a complete reduction in insulin reduction, so it says 83% of them no longer required insulin at month 12.
That's nuts.
83% of all the people they tested didn't require insulin a year later.
That's amazing.
You got to get in on that dog.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, but I don't even know who to talk to.
joe rogan
We'll find out.
We'll ask afterwards.
ralph barbosa
All right.
joe rogan
For real, you should probably find out.
Like maybe there's another trial they're doing.
ralph barbosa
You're also real?
joe rogan
Yeah, I would get involved in that trial.
That seems like totally reasonable.
unidentified
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
That's amazing.
joe rogan
Unless I would, well, I'll talk to a scientist first.
ralph barbosa
I don't know.
joe rogan
I like to talk to some people that are concerned about things.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, you always talk to the person who's, like, against the plan.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's always some side effect that you don't take into consideration.
Like, oh.
Oh, well, if you do that, here's the problem.
It also does this.
You're like, oh no.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, I don't know.
But what if I don't even like, what if I suck after I'm cured?
joe rogan
What are you talking about, Ralph?
ralph barbosa
What if we just.
What are you saying?
joe rogan
What are you saying?
ralph barbosa
What if I just don't know how to act afterwards, you know?
Honestly, living without diabetes, that would go to my head so fast.
joe rogan
You get cocky?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, I drop people out of my life.
Like, what the fuck I need you for?
I'm healthy.
joe rogan
I've heard people say things like that before, like, if I fix this, maybe I won't be funny anymore.
Or if I fix this, maybe my life won't be good anymore.
ralph barbosa
Nah, honestly, I could use something life changing.
I got like writer's block right now.
Oh, yeah.
I'm like un I'm like unmotivated with new stand-ups.
I was reading that book you got out there.
I had never before of art?
No, no, no, no.
joe rogan
Oh, the Hunter S. Thompson book?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, yeah.
Hunter S. Thompson was a dude or that was a chick.
joe rogan
You don't know who Hunter S. Thompson is?
ralph barbosa
Nah, but I kinda have heard of Thompson's work through I read in the before like before the book actually starts it's like other books by Hunter S. Thompson.
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
And what is it?
Rum diet readers?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
So that's a dude, right?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Ah, that dude's good.
joe rogan
What did you take before you came here?
ralph barbosa
Like, so nothing happened.
joe rogan
Something happened.
You're on sleep pills or something?
What the fuck is going on?
ralph barbosa
No, man, I'm sober.
I just woke up and came here.
joe rogan
Yeah, Hunter S. Thompson is a very famous writer.
He's from the countercultural movement.
ralph barbosa
He wrote this paragraph in that book, man.
joe rogan
That's Johnny Jepp, you played him in that movie.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, good old Johnny Depp, man.
joe rogan
That's a fun, fucking movie.
I don't know if you've ever seen it.
ralph barbosa
I've seen more of it.
joe rogan
The Oath in Las Vegas.
It's a fucking great.
It's a great movie.
And the book is really great too.
He was a fascinating guy, like probably one of my, not probably, one of my favorite authors ever.
ralph barbosa
He, that book that's out there, you said it's a first edition.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
It's like diaries of his, right?
Like he just kind of wrote his thoughts and like what he did throughout that day.
Charles Bukowski has a book like that.
What is it?
What is it called?
Like The Captain is Out to Lunch.
joe rogan
Something like that, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Felipe Esparza put me onto that book.
I read and I did his podcast.
He has a couple of Charles Bukowski books in his little library.
joe rogan
Oh, no shit.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Shout out to Felipe.
I love that dude.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, dude.
So talented.
joe rogan
I've been friends with him forever.
The Captain is out to lunch and the Sailors have taken over the ship, Charles Bukowski.
unidentified
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
So it's kind of like that Hunter S. Thompson book.
And in both of those I like both of those books a lot.
I've read like half of that one.
I'm going to buy that one.
But I like what Hunter Thompson said, because he's he's talked about being in his hotel room.
And he says, living on pills, phone calls unmade, people unseen, pages unwritten, money unmade, pressure piling up all around to make some kind of breakthrough and get moving again.
Get the gun off the rails, finish something, croak this awful habit of never getting to the end of anything.
unidentified
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Dude, that's man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
I feel like I'm there right now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
But I don't know if I care as much as he as he did because he at least wrote about it and I've just been like, ah, I'll get to it.
joe rogan
Well, you're a lot younger, first of all.
And second of all, like, he was already a successful writer that was trying to, like, get the fire stoked, you know?
That's this thing.
This is a great book.
You can keep this.
I have, oh, that's not it.
unidentified
Sorry.
joe rogan
I thought that was The War of Art.
We have piles of them.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
ralph barbosa
I saw it up there.
joe rogan
We have, Steven Pressfield gave me a whole box of them.
I'll give you a copy when we leave.
Okay.
unidentified
That's a book that will help you a lot because it's basically just about that.
That book is just about overcoming this resistance that people have to work.
It's hard.
It's hard to make yourself work.
It is.
You know?
Well, I have this thing where I can't help but to obsess on a subject and lose a lot of interest in another subject or other subjects.
But, yeah, I choose what I like or whatever.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
But, like, to a degree.
Does that make sense?
ralph barbosa
like it's like chasing butterflies like sometimes It's like that yellow butterfly.
Like I just gotta keep fucking fucking with this butterfly right here.
And there's so many other butterflies around.
But then sometimes it's the blue one.
So like comedy is like the.
blue butterfly and then like other shit is like other butterflies.
I started an automotive YouTube channel with my buddy.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, it's not super big, but it's so fun.
And it's just like little challenges that I find in it, you know, like learn this, learn how to do that, learn how to do that.
In automotive in terms of like repairing stuff, like we Yeah, we put, we got a 1989 240 SX.
It's my buddy's car.
He bought it for like 600 bucks.
And he wants to put an LS in it, but before putting the LS in it, he wanted to blow up the original motor.
So we put nitrous and turbo on it, well, without tuning it.
So there's no computer telling it how to do it safely or like efficiently.
So it's just like God.
And we didn't blow up the motor, we blew up the coupler for the turbo though.
So like, and the motor sucks now, like it won't stay on.
joe rogan
So this is a Nissan?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, an 89 Nissan 240.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, yeah, it's a horrible.
joe rogan
Why did you choose that year?
ralph barbosa
That's my friend's car.
He just got it with you on.
Yeah.
Everything we find is pretty much Facebook marketplace.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
And so then you're going to drop an LS into that?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, yeah.
We might.
But maybe.
Look, that's the Formula Bean.
joe rogan
Oh, nice.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
We chose that name because like, I feel like Formula One is like, you know, it''s like the pinnacle of racing and they have all these intelligent engineers working on these cars and they make these great motors and stuff.
And I feel like this is the exact opposite.
joe rogan
Oh dude, you're doing some real cars.
You LS swapped an R thirty four GTR?
ralph barbosa
That's more like clickbait.
It's just sitting in the car.
We didn't like connecting it up or anything.
we had to take that car to get aligned.
joe rogan
Click on that, click on that.
Those Skylines are legendary cars.
Those are legendary.
ralph barbosa
Oh yeah.
He got that he got a deal on that car.
joe rogan
They're hard to get, man.
They couldn't import them into the United States until like just a few years ago.
Twenty five years after the production, right?
So there were people have done shit like that before.
I got I went down a rabbit hole the other day of Skyline, like mods and all the different things that people have done to Skyline.
This is one dude, he has this insane metallic deep purple, like a dark purple.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, midnight purple three probably.
unidentified
Bro, it is so beautiful.
ralph barbosa
It's like a big, it's like a cardinal sin though to put an LS in a Skyline.
joe rogan
Oh, right, you want to use a Japanese engine.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, yeah, the RB, it's the original Skyline motor.
So that's a R thirty four GTT.
So that comes with the RB twenty five.
The GTR, which is like the super famous, super expensive one, comes with the RB twenty six, but.
joe rogan
So you really know your ship, man.
It's a shit, man.
ralph barbosa
I'm learning.
joe rogan
I have an R thirty five.
I have a Nismo.
ralph barbosa
Oh yeah, you told me once I think.
unidentified
Oh, I love it.
ralph barbosa
One guy tried to sell me one of those, but I couldn't do it.
It was too expensive.
It was out of my price range.
I have an R thirty five too, but not a Nismo.
joe rogan
Well, you could.
The thing about R thirty five's is you could turn it into exactly what a Nismo is.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, everything is moddable.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, these cars have been around for so long in the community of modders for both them and a lot of JDM vehicles like Supra's, like the 240 Z's, the old ones.
There's a whole company now that is in the UK that takes two Nissan or Datsun, it was back when it was Datsun, Datsun 240s, and turns them into these fucking sick streamlined sports cars with like wider tires, much more horsepower, super lightweight.
ralph barbosa
I'd like to do that.
joe rogan
Oh, it's so exciting.
I love Japanese sports cars because you get the best of both worlds.
You get performance and reliability.
Like if you get like a GTR, those are like one of the most reliable cars you can buy and it's ridiculously fast.
That's my shit right there, son.
ralph barbosa
I uh, that's what I have.
You ever take it to a track?
joe rogan
I have not taken the GTR to a track.
ralph barbosa
You got an Nismo, you got to take it to a track.
joe rogan
I know, but I've only been to a track a few times and the last time I went was a Corvette thing.
I went with them.
We're actually going to build a track, rather a studio on the track.
Oh, that's our next move.
Yeah.
We're going to build a studio at CODA.
So we're going to have two studios.
We're going to have a regular studio here and then we're going to have a studio at the Circuit of the Americas.
ralph barbosa
Let's fucking start.
joe rogan
So we're going to be able to take people around the track and then do a podcast right afterwards.
ralph barbosa
Hey, hire me as a driver.
joe rogan
Eh, can you drive?
You Are you good?
ralph barbosa
I'm okay.
I got the fastest lap time at Speed Vegas.
You ever been there?
joe rogan
Did you really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The fastest?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, for like a few hours and then some dude beat me.
joe rogan
What were you driving?
ralph barbosa
Porsche GT3 RS.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
ralph barbosa
I was competing against my co-host on the channel there, my buddy Luis.
His username underscore AF on Instagram.
Horrible username.
But anyway, we both got the same car, the Porsche, to compare lap times.
Oh, not right.
I had him beat by like eight seconds or something like that.
joe rogan
Well, he probably doesn't know how to drive it.
Also, those cars get a little scary.
The rear engine.
ralph barbosa
I mean, you have an instructor just telling you what to do.
joe rogan
But I didn't you hit the gas harder.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, I broke a little bit later.
unidentified
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
I hit the gas a little harder.
I almost spun out, but I wanted to find the limit to the car.
But yeah, I went on my second lap, I almost spun out the car, but I was able to keep it.
joe rogan
Yeah, those cars are just designed entirely for racing.
That's a crazy car that you can get, a race car for the street.
When we went, the last time we went to Koda, we went for Corvette.
So Corvette has the new ZR one.
ralph barbosa
And it holds the record, right?
At what track was it?
joe rogan
Nurburgrand.
ralph barbosa
Nurburgrand.
joe rogan
It holds the record in basically every single track that it's ever entered into.
unidentified
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're just.
It's 1000 horsepower from the factory.
And then the record at Nurburgring that they did, which is the record only for American cars, it's for the ZR1X, I believe the time is 6 minutes 49 seconds, which is insanely fast, and it wasn't driven by a professional driver.
ralph barbosa
It was driven by the engineer.
joe rogan
Yes, the engineer broke the American lap time record.
So everyone else is using Formula 1 drivers, using the sickest drivers on Earth to get the most amount of time.
So a professional driver that I follow, this guy, I forget his last name, Misha something or another, on YouTube, he analyzed the footage and he said, you could save ten seconds.
off this.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which is crazy.
Oh, here it goes.
Pro driver says Corvette Zero One could have gone ten seconds faster at Nurburgring.
Who is it that said that?
Is it more than one Pro driver said that?
No, Misha.
This guy.
This guy's great.
ralph barbosa
I follow him.
joe rogan
Yes.
What is his channel called?
Let's give him a shout out, young Jamie.
ralph barbosa
Ten seconds in the world of racing.
That's like a lot.
joe rogan
That's a lot.
So it's Misha MISHA and the last name I don't know how to pronounce is CHROUDIN.
Sharudin?
How would you say that?
Sharudin?
ralph barbosa
Sharudin.
joe rogan
Charudin.
Anyway, cool guy, great channel.
It's dope.
So he analyzed it and he drives that track all the time.
Like his whole team is on the rides at that track, right?
And he's a nasty driver.
He drives wicked.
ralph barbosa
He looks so calm too.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
ralph barbosa
He's just hauling ass.
joe rogan
Well, he knows that track like the back of his hand.
He's always at the Nurburgring.
He does track days on there all the time.
So he drives a whole bunch of crazy cars, including GTRs, all kinds of crazy shit, different things that people have put together and modded.
And so it says with someone more comfortable with the car, he's like a sub six-minute.
six minute and 40 second time, which is what they achieved, was relatively easy and possible, he would say.
He said maybe they've already done a lap with a pro driver and will release later when they find it necessary.
So what Corvette likes to do though, they like to do their lap times with the people who built the car, because they feel like the people built the car are intimately connected.
Instead of farming it off to some Formula 1 psychopath, get the actual guys who designed and engineered the car.
And if these guys are breaking records, they're great drivers, don't get me wrong.
I drove with one of them when we were at CODA.
ralph barbosa
Oh shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, and I drove the car.
I drove that ZR one.
It's the best car I've ever driven in my life.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
I've driven a lot of cars.
ralph barbosa
Takes corners badass.
joe rogan
It's insane.
It's insane.
It's got the power like an electric car.
The acceleration is bananas.
It's nuts.
It's 0 to 60 in under two seconds.
It fucking flies.
It has massive downforce, huge wheels, sticky tires, and you're going around these corners like you can't believe the amount of grip it has and the stability of it, the balance of it.
ralph barbosa
What kind of tires do they put on those?
joe rogan
They're cup tires.
unidentified
I don't know what the exact...
ralph barbosa
I wish I knew how to fabricate my own suspension for cars.
joe rogan
Really?
You want to do all that?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, I want to learn.
I don't mean I don't want to make my own suspension.
I kind of, I mean maybe one day, I don't know.
I do want to learn how to fabricate other parts, easier parts, but I feel like all the cars I buy, that's like the most important thing to me is like handling.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
ralph barbosa
I bought a shout out to this dude.
I'm going to shout out his page.
He's got some cool stuff on YouTube.
Krusty, what is it?
Krusty Classics Garage.
unidentified
Let me make sure I'm getting that right.
He sold me a 1973 Plymouth Barracuda, but it has a front end from a 71 Barracuda.
Oh, a nice front end.
Yeah.
Four headlights.
Yeah.
That's the front end.
That was bad.
That's the one.
That's the one.
I have a 70.
He had less swapped it.
Look, that's the one.
That's the one I bought.
I love that car.
That looks like a 70.
Oh, that's the original front end.
That's the original front end before they swapped it out.
No, no, no.
That's the-73.
71 front end.
It looks like-No, that's not.
Because it only has one headline on each side.
Oh, no, no.
You're right.
That's the 73.
Yeah, yeah.
They wrecked into him.
He had to swap it.
Oh, I see.
I see.
Yeah.
My mom had a 71 when I was- when I was a kid.
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Dude, your mom was kicking ass.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was pretty dope.
Dope car.
I learned how to drive on it.
ralph barbosa
That car, he LS wapped it.
And the suspension is pretty tight.
But when I got to, it has no speedometer, so when I got to like what I assume is somewhere over 100, yeah, the steering wheel became a little scary.
Oh, there's a little bit too sensitive.
The front end is so like light.
joe rogan
Well, it's also the steering sucks.
Their steering was so.
ralph barbosa
Well, he has like aftermarket on it.
Like, I just, I don't know what he did to it.
I got to take a deeper look into it.
I bought it and then just hauled ass back to Dallas.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
And once I got on, once I got on the highway closer to my house, a Camry was getting cocky, so I was just like, nah, I got to show them that.
unidentified
Camry?
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Camry was getting cocky.
Oh, that looks great with that 71 front end.
That 71 front end is gorgeous.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, look, that's I think that's when we bought it.
joe rogan
My friend Brigham has a 71.
It's badass.
It's so nice.
ralph barbosa
This dude has everything LS swapped.
He has people sending him work from like other states even.
joe rogan
Really?
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
This dude does good work.
joe rogan
Will the LS swapped into a Barracuda?
unidentified
Ooh.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, no.
That's like more blasphemy like the thing we did with the Skyline.
joe rogan
Like, you want to see the dopeest Barracuda you've ever seen?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, hell yeah.
joe rogan
Jamie, pull up mine.
Oh shit.
made by Roadster Shop this is the craziest Barracuda ever Roadster they make the frames and shit right they make everything damn they did everything and they put a they put a racing engine in it a Mercury racing engine in it so it's like a 9 000 rpm racing engine holy oh it's nasty it's so crazy this is fine yeah that's my car this thing is bonkers It's got a roll cage in it.
It's all like the interior is gorgeous.
ralph barbosa
But it's six-speed manual transmission, but it sounds like an exotic car oh yeah america fuck yeah hey you got one cup holder yeah me too yeah everybody else my my interior doesn't look as nice as that one but That's the one thing all cuddles have in common is the
cup holder.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, that's all the interior is totally different.
ralph barbosa
That thing is sick, bro.
You have that?
You got a Nismo?
You have good taste.
joe rogan
Yeah, I like stuff.
ralph barbosa
What's your gayest car?
joe rogan
The gayest car?
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
What's your car that you like?
joe rogan
Tesla.
ralph barbosa
Yes, like Tesla.
Are they?
Yeah, that one.
That one takes the cake.
joe rogan
I mean, you want to ask the average person, but I love it.
I drove that today.
That thing's awesome.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, that's your daily driver.
joe rogan
Yeah, you drive it all the time.
I drive it all the time.
It's a Model S plaid, and it's also, it's customized.
So this company called Unplugged Performance, they take a Model S and then they put carbon fiber fenders on it, wider track, wider tires, upgraded suspension, change the interior.
ralph barbosa
Hey, do you have tinted windows?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
Nobody ever recognizes you in traffic.
joe rogan
You never recognize me.
unidentified
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
You're like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Usually they say hi.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
Hey, what's up?
You don't get weirdos?
I feel like you'd get the most weirdos out of anyone.
joe rogan
Get some weirdos, but most people are nice.
ralph barbosa
Most, yeah.
joe rogan
Most people, most people in the world, the reason why you can get on the highway and no one's just slamming into each other, and the reason why you can go to the mall and everyone's not stamped, trampeding, stampeding over people, is because most people are nice.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Most people are cool.
ralph barbosa
Most people are cool until they start, you know, running out of women and resources.
joe rogan
Right.
Incels.
ralph barbosa
Incels.
joe rogan
They get dangerous.
They get on the meth.
Incels.
They get radicalized online.
unidentified
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Don't take drugs.
Take care of your bodies.
joe rogan
What are the tires on the Corvette, Jamie?
Do we look, do we find out what they are?
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
They're super sticky.
You drive it, you'll go, you'll go crazy..
It's the greatest car ever.
ralph barbosa
Tires make a big difference, man.
joe rogan
Huge difference.
But it's also the mid, mid engine.
When they switched the Corvette architecture from that front engine design from the C seven to the C eight, Michelin, yeah, there's Pilot Sport for us.
And I think you could use cup tires too.
I think.
I think it's an option.
ralph barbosa
Mid engine cars, they seem to be dominating on tracks, huh?
joe rogan
Well, the balance is so good.
When you have that balance of the engine in front of the back wheels, first of all, you have massive amounts of traction because all that weight is back there.
There's always a problem with that front engine.
ralph barbosa
The only time I think the front engine can be like a mid engine thing, I think is if like the track has different elevations like like like what is it like Laguna Seca I think has like a huge downhill uphill thing oh where it helps you to have the front engine bias yeah I think I mean I'd imagine that's the only place it probably can make a difference because like when you're coming uh what is it like man I think I saw a video on it one time and I didn't have the volume up because my kid was asleep but I'm pretty sure that's what they were talking about like what
are you know on the on the side of the track they have like the like the stripes the red and white and sometimes they go over that right you know sometimes yeah yeah so if you're going off of one of those and you're also going downhill I'd imagine you'd want like a front engine, I think you'd get the grip faster as you're coming down.
Whereas if the motor was in the back, I think you'd have to kind of catch your balance a little bit more than a front engine.
What could be wrong though?
I don't know.
joe rogan
The motor's in the middle.
See, that's the thing.
The motor in the back with the Porsche, you have to learn how to use that pendulum effect as you're driving.
But the guys who are really good at it though, they use it to their effect.
Like they steer with the throttle.
So like as they're turning, they're hitting the gas.
The ascent is kicking out and then they're modulating it and then they're going straight.
So the guys that are really good at driving Porsches, it's pretty beautiful to watch because they just know how to use that rear engine bias.
But the thing about the Corvette and also the Cayman, the Cayman GT 4, which is another amazing mid-engine car, is that engine in front of the rear wheel in the center of the car makes the car perfectly balanced.
You just feel so confident.
Even when the tires break, you feel really confident that this car is under control.
And the Corvette has so much downforce.
It's so well engineered.
I mean, these guys gave us, before they let us drive, me and Hinchcliff went down there, and before they let us drive, they gave us like this full tour de force explanation of the engineering involved in this car and what the goal was., it's the most ridiculous production car that any American company has ever put out by far.
ralph barbosa
The more you get into cars, the more you get into like physics and balance.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
It starts off as like, oh shit, like 340 horsepower, 400 pounds feet of torque.
And then later on, you're just like, dude, that thing is so balanced.
joe rogan
Yeah, it balances everything.
And really, for thrills, if you really want to enjoy a car, to enjoy a car, it's not about how fast you go.
Like this whole lap time thing, it's cool.
Because if you like going on a track, and I do like going on a track, it's fun.
And it's fun to have a car that's really good at moving around a track and driving fast.
But in the real world, what you want is sensory experiences.
That's what you want out of a car.
unidentified
What do you mean?
ralph barbosa
Sensory experiences.
joe rogan
You want to hear the sound.
You want to feel the gears as you're shifting.
You want to push the clutch in and pop that sucker in a third and let off the clutch as you hit the gas.
You want to smell it.
unidentified
You want to feel it.
You want to reach.
joe rogan
You don't even want power-assisted steering.
So you want a light car like an early 9-11.
If you really want to feel like what's the a really well-sorted out air-cooled 911.
ralph barbosa
Air-cooled 911.
joe rogan
Oh, those old Porsches are so light.
You can get them to like 2,000 pounds and they strip things out of them.
ralph barbosa
Oh, those are like stupid expenses now, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, they are now.
But it depends on which model.
You can still get some models like the G body models.
pretty reasonable until people start realizing that and start scooping them up too.
unidentified
But there's some that don't look quite as good, but...
joe rogan
Get that out of your head.
What you want to do is just experience the car.
Like when you drive like a, you can get like a 19.
Let's find out what a how much does a 1982 911 cost?
Let's see if we can find one.
ralph barbosa
I hate that I just recently started getting into Porsches and I like I hate that I like them now.
joe rogan
They're great.
ralph barbosa
They are.
They're really but they're so but they're so expensive.
They're so they're also good investments.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're worth more money after you buy them than they are when you buy them.
There's one of the rare cars that will continue.
Okay, there's a beautiful one.
That one's 70 grand.
That one's 70 grand.
That seems like somebody has put some, they've probably put some work into that one.
What does it say in terms of what's been done to it?
Oh my god.
It only has 10000 miles on it.
That's crazy.
ralph barbosa
You know When I first started making money, I felt like I was buying cars like that, that were more like collector type.
But now my garage is so different because I don't like that.
joe rogan
Jamie, don't go back to that.
ralph barbosa
I like to fucking put miles on them.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, I hear you, but this is nuts.
To find an 82 Porsche with that low amount of miles, that's crazy, 100 miles?
ralph barbosa
I would LS it.
unidentified
Oh, Biden, LSU.
Oh, yeah.
ralph barbosa
I got one of those, but not that year.
Go back up.
Yeah, Skyline right there.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, I got a different one though.
joe rogan
I got a What one do you have?
ralph barbosa
I have a 1971.
Yeah, it's an original.
But that, that car, that's one of those cars that I'm like, I don't know if I should keep it or not.
Because it's, it's so valuable as long as I don't fuck with it too much.
joe rogan
Oh, it's an investment.
If I, if I had that car, if I was you, I just keep that sucker well maintained, don't drive it anywhere, hold on to it, enjoy it.
That would be worth a million dollars one day.
ralph barbosa
I don't know, I think I'm gonna, that's it.
That would be it.
That's it, but.
joe rogan
Does it have the original engine?
unidentified
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
The original engine, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh man, I wouldn't fuck with it if I was you.
ralph barbosa
It still smells like the Japanese guy who used to drive it to work.
joe rogan
This is crazy that this car only has 100 miles on it.
So that car is not going to be fast in comparison to a modern car.
It's a comparison to a modern car, but boy, will you enjoy driving it?
That's a nice car.
You drive that car, you feel everything.
It's like you're in a ride.
ralph barbosa
I don't know, I don't know what year they started doing this, but they have a Oh, it says I have 8000 miles on it.
jamie vernon
9000, yeah.
joe rogan
What?
ralph barbosa
100 miles on the 9000.
joe rogan
No, no, no, 8475, Jamie.
8475.
Is that the last one?
Is that up to the next mile?
When that goes over to zero, does that make a six?
jamie vernon
It's usually a different number or a different color or something.
Most cars track up to 100,000, right?
unidentified
Yeah, or maybe not., maybe it's 9000.
joe rogan
Does it go 678960?
Does it do that?
I don't know.
jamie vernon
It just doesn't.
ralph barbosa
I don't know 100.
Hey, that's still not bad.
We'll use it 82.
joe rogan
So either way, yeah, if it's an 82, but that doesn't make any sense.
Why, oh, I think they're saying it has 100 miles on a rebuilt engine.
Let's see what it says.
jamie vernon
It's fully restored.
joe rogan
Fully restored, that's it.
Okay.
jamie vernon
No miles.
joe rogan
Original engine, trans fully restored, no miles.
Okay, so it only has 100 miles on the original, the engine that's been fully restored.
Okay, that makes more sense.
So it's got, they're lying then.
You can't say it has 100 miles, because then all the trans, all the other shit, like the suspension, everything else is has got all those miles on it.
Unless you swapped out every fucking component in the car.
ralph barbosa
They have a weird, uh, the transmission.
I don't know what year they started doing this.
joe rogan
Oh, the dog leg went down to one.
ralph barbosa
No, no, the thing, it just feels different.
Like, I forgot what, I forgot what it was.
My buddy bought one, the guy I run the channel with, Luis.
So this is like the cheapest Porsche ever.
But it looks so good.
He made a whole YouTube thing about it.
Like, he made videos on it.
He got this Porsche for like, I think it was like 3,200 bucks, 3,600 bucks or something off Facebook.
The dude was like, yeah, it's a 07 Porsche.
He's like, the motor's caput.
So my buddy goes to check it out and it has a knocking in it and the paint is just real ugly.
And he buys it.
He's like, Fuck it.
I'm gonna just take the chance.
Maybe it's simple fix.
And he takes it to our buddy Brian back in Fort Worth to get it painted.
So now the paint is just brand new, but the motor still knocks.
And my dad pulls up to that same shop that same day to get a truck painted.
And he's like, Oh, what's up, Luis?
And they decide to raise the truck, Senofias versus the Porsche.
And Luis floors it.
And after he floors it, the knocking goes away.
Just never came back and the motor just runs fine.
So he just came up on like the cheapest Porsche.
joe rogan
Do you have a video of this?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, yeah, bro, it's all over like can you pull it up on the Formula B and YouTube again?
It has to be on there like that's crazy.
Yeah, and the only thing other than that I think was like the wheel alignment or like it was like shaky or whatever, but I think the I think what he said what it was was the tires had been sitting for so long that they kind of like oh, it's scary.
joe rogan
Yeah, so you shouldn't drive on old tires, man.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, we just switched them out.
It's like fucking no problem.
louis cisneros
Look.
And that is race a car.
joe rogan
Oh, it's a Cayman.
louis cisneros
After the race it stop making the noises let's change the oil and see what we find well there's really two that's after the paint job i got some fresh gasoline in the car and the race i mean if i was gonna replace the engine, why not just race it?
If it blows up, it blows up.
But ironically, the opposite happened.
The old owner warned me that the engine needed to be replaced.
And I think you can get a pretty good idea on the health of the engine by doing an oil change.
One, it looks disgusting, but let's see if we see any metal shavings in there.
Taking apart the old filter, I notice a lot of sludge, but using a magnet, I don't find any metal shavings.
Alright, let's go magnet fishing.
Next up, let's check the oil.
ralph barbosa
This dude's really smart.
He was an engineer for Lo for Lockheed Martin.
I convinced him to quit his job.
louis cisneros
Really?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, so maybe he's not that smart if he lets me convince him to quit, but this sounds more fun.
Yeah.
louis cisneros
So what was that noise?
Because of the condition of the oil, I'm thinking some sludge got stuck where it wasn't supposed to.
Maybe it was a lifter tick, and when I finally drove it hard, it blew out the sludge.
Or maybe it was something in the clutch.
unidentified
Okay guys, let's see how it runs.
joe rogan
How much do you pay for this?
ralph barbosa
Like 3600 bucks.
joe rogan
Oh, that's insane.
ralph barbosa
That's crazy, right?
joe rogan
What a great deal.
And that's a great balanced car.
The Cayman's?
These are super, super well balanced.
ralph barbosa
It drives really good.
That's his daily driver now.
joe rogan
Oh, that's dope.
ralph barbosa
That dude only buys cars if they like suck.
Like he won't, like you won't catch him buying something from a dealer.
He's never bought something from a dealer.
He has like to fix cars.
Yeah, the dude's fucking crazy smart.
So I met him through our other content creator friend.
This is a dude named Popico.
Fucking hilarious dude.
Even funnier in real life.
We have the same media manager.
So anytime Popico wants to come to my shows, you know, my manager would just give him tickets.
And I'm performing in Dallas one day and Popico shows up with our other buddy Ivan and with this dude.
And he's like, hey, these are my buddies.
They're also content creators.
You know, they met like at a TikTok convention or something.
I don't know where content creators hang out.
And the first thing he tells me, he's like, hey man, let's swap your Skyline.
I heard you got a Skyline.
And those are like his favorite cars, my favorite cars.
And I was like, fuck no, I would never do that.
And he's like, well, if you ever wanted to do anything, just let me know.
So I told him I had bought an R thirty two GTR and I wanted to do work on it.
But I was like, I want to do it.
I want to learn how to fuck with it.
You know what I mean?
I was like, can you teach me what?
And I was like, I'll pay you whatever you want to teach me.
He's like, all right, well, I'll go over like on such a day.
Because it was a coincidence that we both live in DFW.
So he comes over to the house one day and we start like, I think the first thing we did was maybe change the exhaust on my Skyline or maybe it was a suspension on my Impala.
I don't remember one of those things.
And I was like, well, what are you going to charge me?
He's like, nah, man, I don't care.
He's like, it's just fun, you know, make some content from it.
Like, never charge.
We just kept hanging out.
And now we've done, I don't know how many fucking projects together.
And we went ahead and just started the channel together.
joe rogan
How far in did you get him to quit his job?
ralph barbosa
I think like a year into knowing him.
I tried after like a week of knowing him though.
But he's like, I don't know, man.
He's like, he grew up.
very like, you know, you get a you get a job, you keep your job security.
Like he grew up under that.
Most people.
Yeah.
And so you're a comedian.
joe rogan
You're like, fuck it.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, I'm like, bro, turn it down.
Chase your fucking dreams, fuck a job.
There's so many jobs out there, like they're always gonna be there.
But he he said even before being a content creator, he thought that was like impossible.
He's like, nah, like that'll never work.
And then, you know, just went for it and saw other of his friends, I think like Ivan, our barber buddy, go for it and then like just started working.
I think he made a video.
I think during COVID is when he started getting a lot lot of followers, he made a I don't know what he made a video of, and so he just kept on it.
But to actually quit his job was like the next step.
joe rogan
That's great, man.
Look, those things are super popular, and there's a real market for them.
I know because I watch them all the time.
I watch shows all the time online.
Do you know about Stance Elements?
ralph barbosa
I don't think so.
joe rogan
Okay.
There's a great channel you should follow called Stance Elements.
This dude is building a Ferrari F forty.
Building.
ralph barbosa
Oh shit.
joe rogan
So what he did was, he bought all the parts that you could buy online for a Ferrari F forty.
He bought quarter panels.
He bought front fenders, hood, all that jazz.
ralph barbosa
Yo, Ferrari doesn't like that shit though.
joe rogan
They hate it.
Fuck them.
He's fabricated the entire frame.
He built the frame.
He built the interior roll cage.
He made it dope as fuck man.
He made it like and he's in the middle of this project.
This project is probably gonna that's not an F40.
That's a 308.
That's a very cool car too though.
So he got an engine from an even more powerful Ferrari.
So we got a crate engine that he installed into this thing.
So you can scoot it out.
This is like he's just talking about different projects he did.
That was his original M5, which was another great car.
So look, he fabricated.
this entire frame.
They did all this and they, you know, like he meticulously measured and matched and then TIG welded all this stuff together and this is what he's putting together.
He's making this car.
So it's going to be like his version of a Ferrari F-40, but it's pretty sick.
It's going to cost him fucking shitloads of money, man.
ralph barbosa
That's so sick though.
joe rogan
Yeah, like he's pretty far ahead past this now.
That's what it's going to look like ultimately at the end, which is going to be nuts.
ralph barbosa
Gasmonkey did that too.
And I think the story with that was like Ferrari did everything they could to try to stop them from getting parts.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
I think he got all the parts before they knew what was going on.
ralph barbosa
Now, for the next guy who wants to do one of these Ferraris, it's going to be like, Oh yeah.
If anyone's ordering a bunch of parts, it's like crazy.
They're probably going to be like, Hold on, this is suspicious.
joe rogan
If Ferrari catches you repainting your car like a crazy color, you're fucked.
They'll sue you.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, they go crazy.
Didn't they go after that designer?
What is his name?
Philip Pleen.
Is that his name?
He had like a green Ferrari.
Like a like a crazy metallic green.
He must have either put a wrap on it or changed the paint.
But he was doing all this promo stuff with his Ferrari and they sued him.
ralph barbosa
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's the car.
Ferrari wins legal case against designer Philip Pleen use of supercars, but he says it's not over.
ralph barbosa
Look at the color on that.
So that means like he bought it from Ferrari and must have signed something, right?
That's like I guess.
joe rogan
Look at this.
It said he's been ordered to pay Ferrari three hundred fifty two thousand dollars in compensation to the Italian car manufacturer.
The case relates to a spring twenty eighteen runway show that Pleen held in Milan in June of twenty seventeen.
During this event, Pleen featured a host of exotics including Ferrari's Lamborghinis and McLaren's, and Ferrari was none too pleased with this.
They took issue with Pleen's social media posts claiming that by posting photos of his fashion collection with Ferrari's, Pleen was unlawfully appropriating the goodwill attached to its trademarks to promote his own brand and products.
It added that Pleen's post tarnished the reputation of Ferrari.
Like what reputation?
Coked up dudes in Miami?
What the fuck are you talking about?
What reputation?
That's crazy.
That's a lot of money.
He has to pay them three hundred fifty two thousand dollars in compensation and reimburse attorneys fees to the tune of over $29,000.
ralph barbosa
He has to pay them the attorney fees?
joe rogan
Yeah, in order to remove any images from his website and social media platforms that show any Ferrari model.
Moreover, the court said that if Pleen, am I saying his name right?
Plein, pleen, refuses to delete a post depicting a Ferrari or shares a new one, he will have to pay a fee of £10,000.
Is that pounds or is that euros?
What's that?
Euros?
For each image or video.
That's crazy.
ralph barbosa
Dude, that sucks.
Oh, that's amazing.
joe rogan
Shortly after the decision was made, he went to Instagram and promptly shared an image of his bright green 812 Superfast claiming that he will appeal the ruling.
That seems crazy.
That all he did was show his stuff with Ferraris?
Like, what about rappers?
Can they not use a Ferrari if they're doing a music video?
Like, if you're a rapper and you bought a dope car and you want to have your dope car in your music video, does Ferrari fucking sue you?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, I'm trying to think back now.
Have I even seen like how many Ferraris have I seen in music videos?
joe rogan
I mean, you always see like cool cars, Lambo doors, especially old ones.
You go back to like old rap videos.
ralph barbosa
But like an actual Ferrari?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
Dead Mouse.
Oh, he got in trouble too, right?
Because he had a wrap on his.
They sued him as well, right?
ralph barbosa
I gotta find me a Ferrari, but not from Ferrari.
Like, I gotta find it on Facebook Marketplace, like my friend with the Porsche.
joe rogan
See, that's what hit the back of his car.
Look at that color.
Isn't that a dope color?
ralph barbosa
That is.
joe rogan
I love that color.
That is the same color.
It's a similar color rather to what Corvette has.
Corvette has a new one called Roswell Green for their ZR one.
Looks sick.
He says Ferrari says he was using the vehicle to add value to his products and elevate his status as a designer.
Okay.
On the surface, it seems petty, but dig a little closer, and you'll find you agree with Ferrari.
No, I won't.
That's not what I'll agree with, bitch.
German fashion designer was not only taking pictures with scantily clad women washing the Ferrari, he had also been known to employ likes of Chris Brown and Takeshi six ix nine in his fashion shows, two men with a history of perpetrating sexual assault and other unsavory acts.
ralph barbosa
Okay, that's not one hundred percent fair though, because did Chris Brown commit sexual assault?
I thought it was just, you know, domestic violence.
Domestic violence.
Domestic violence.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
He didn't rape nobody.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
I think they're just I don't know what happened with Takeshi 69 either.
ralph barbosa
I don't know that story at all.
joe rogan
I know he's a rat.
So what about the Miami Vice?
ralph barbosa
That would be hilarious if the article was like, yeah, and he associated it with a snitch.
joe rogan
You know what's crazy is like those are really expensive.
Oh, look at that.
The Miami Vice one.
A Corvette-based Daytona kit was used.
Once Ferrari got wind, it took action.
Oh, interesting.
But it says Ferrari was so much more fun in the 1980s, and instead of just asking the producer of the show to take badges off or stop using the vehicle, they asked for the Daytona to be blown up on on the screen.
The moment ended up being one of the most pivotal moments of the series and a great spectacle.
The brand was even a good sport about the whole thing and offered the show a real Ferrari Testarossa, the brand's flagship at the time to be used for the remainder of the series.
So yeah, Miami Vice was known for that Testarossa, that white Testarossa that Don Johnson used to drive around in.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So that Ferrari was cool back then.
They said, You used a real car, bro.
ralph barbosa
I only know about that Ferrari because of the Wolf of Wall Street.
Was it in the intro?
He's like, no, no, my Ferrari was white like Don Johnson's on Miami Vice.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't like the Testarossas.
I have a friend, my friend Dana White from the UFC, he has a Testarossa.
I think they look like trash.
ralph barbosa
The testosis?
joe rogan
Yeah, I just think it's a crappy looking car.
It's just I'm not interested in it.
I mean, I'm sure it's fun to drive, but for some people that was their car when they were kids.
That was the car they wanted.
For me, it was always Porsche's.
Porsche's and muscle cars.
Those are the cars I wanted when I was kid.
Those Porsche's like the turbo with the fat ass.
ralph barbosa
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Like if you go like Google 1985 911 turbo.
This was when I was a senior in high school.
ralph barbosa
That was the first thing I liked about the Porsche's, the fat asses.
Because you stare at them.
Like I was saying, like you get into balance.
When I look at that, I'm like, look at that thing.
That thing would never flip over.
joe rogan
But then you can go with the BBL version of it, which is that dude in Japan who makes white.
ralph barbosa
Everybody was flaming them when he was gluing the parts on.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Sexy.
1985 911 Turbo.
Look how sexy that is.
When I was a kid, that was the car, man.
I saw that.
There was a dude at a gas station that I worked at.
He pulled in with a Porsche.
It was the first time I ever saw one up close.
I was like, holy shit.
Look at this thing.
It was just like that.
It was a white one.
ralph barbosa
I'd like to have one of those one day.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They're cool.
And again, that car, you'll feel.
everything.
You feel everything, man.
It's like they're so mechanical.
It's just a sensory overload.
So it's more fun, even if you're not driving fast.
Like my Tesla is fun, but one of the reasons why it's fun, because it's preposterous.
It goes 0 to 60 in 1.9 seconds.
It's just silent.
It's just gone.
It's silent.
The light turns green.
It's gone.
It just takes off.
But you have more fun in a light car like that going slower.
You don't even have to speed.
Like you just, it's the just the feeling of driving, the running through the gears.
Ferrari has not sued owners solely for changing the paint color or applying a wrap.
However, Ferrari has taken legal action against owners who have significantly altered the car's appearance, especially when it involves modifying or replacing the Ferrari logo or when the car is used in ways that damage the brand's reputation.
So that's what Ferrari was saying.
ralph barbosa
I don't know how many times, I mean, it's only been a couple of times and I won't say who because I don't want to get them into trouble, but I've seen cars, Ferrari's that have been modified and the logo is the horse but with like a giant boner.
joe rogan
Where have you seen that?
ralph barbosa
I can't tell you now.
joe rogan
I can't tell you.
ralph barbosa
I don't want them to get sued, man.
joe rogan
Okay, don't tell me.
But it's kind of stupid though that a car company could think that it could stop you from altering things.
Because like think about like the GTRs that we were talking about, like a big part of the whole community and the culture is the altering of those cars.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
The big part is the modifying.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
I think that's that's part of what made them so popular is that they were so easily tunable and, you know, you can modify.
joe rogan
It's a big part of it.
And the same thing with Porsches.
I mean, there's so many outlaw Porsches out there where people take Porsches and change all kinds of things on them.
And like that gentleman, what is it his name again, that does the raw welt Porsches?
ralph barbosa
I don't know his name, but he wears sandals and he smokes cigarettes all the time.
joe rogan
Yeah, that guy is fascinating.
Because he does everything by hand.
Yeah.
He makes all those wide body Porsches by hand.
And like those.
ralph barbosa
There's like a wait list, right, to get him to fuck with your Porsche.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He just comes to your shop.
He'll travel with fucking cartons of cigarettes.
I think he drinks Coca Cola, just fucking.
ralph barbosa
That's it, man.
joe rogan
Carves it up.
And, you know.
ralph barbosa
I like his style.
joe rogan
They're dope.
ralph barbosa
It's very like grandma's style, just Coca Cola and cigarettes.
unidentified
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
I feel like that's shit that my grandma would send me to the store for.
joe rogan
Flip flops.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's just out there smoking cigarettes and working on the car.
But that style of car, that wide body style is like very controversial.
Some people think it's gross.
Like what have you done to a Porsche?
You've cut up one of the great pieces of engineering and design and you've turned it into this fat hooker.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
That's something that I didn't, that's one thing that kept me from liking Porsches for so long was that like Porsche owners were very analytical about stuff like that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, Porsche less, less Porsche than Ferrari.
Like for Ferrari, it's like, you know, it's a sacrilege to do that.
But that does look pretty fuckeding.
ralph barbosa
That looks sick.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That looks pretty goddamn dope.
And those giant ass wheels and tires they have on those things.
The grip must be sensational.
ralph barbosa
I love that thing.
I wish I would I would do that.
If I owned a Porsche, I would call that dude.
I'd be like, hey, dude, this stuff, man.
joe rogan
Look at that.
unidentified
Look what he did to a...
ralph barbosa
Hey, Louise, we gotta call that dude.
joe rogan
That actually might be a 997.
I think that is a 997.
So that's a water-cooled car.
Look at the wide body on that motherfucker.
Ooh, that looks good.
That looks good.
What is his name again, Jamie?
That's right.
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Akira, like the movie.
joe rogan
Yeah, so that guy's got a whole cult following.
And they do a lot of LS swaps in those cars too.
Yeah, I think Roller Lidgewood had one of those.
He had one that was LS swapped.
ralph barbosa
They they put those motors into like, what is it, the Beatles sometimes too, right?
The Volkswagen, the old ones.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Those are sick.
joe rogan
You can put an LS in anything.
They're bulletproof.
Such a good engine.
ralph barbosa
Oh, and I was talking about the Porsche engines.
I think they fit in.
joe rogan
Oh, they definitely do that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
A lot of people have done that.
Yeah.
They put them in VW buses.
ralph barbosa
I wonder if that makes Porsche people mad.
joe rogan
I think the Porsche people are just a little more chill about that stuff.
They're not going to sue you.
The Ferrari thing is weird, because I think that's the only company that does that.
It goes after people for doing stuff to their vehicles.
ralph barbosa
That would be hilarious if like Ford or Chevy started doing that.
It's like, you can't change your Ford Fiesta like that.
joe rogan
Bro, you talk about lawsuits.
How many fucking lawsuits would they have?
I mean, how many people have altered Mustangs, you know?
Come on.
ralph barbosa
I like the Mustangs.
I feel kind of bad that they got that reputation of always hitting people at car meetings and stuff and sliding out of control.
joe rogan
Do they?
ralph barbosa
I think it's a Ford thing though.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
ralph barbosa
Like, uh, so like on memes and stuff, the Mustangs are in infamous for, like, when they do little burnout or when they just do a little fish tail, they end up going out of control and, like, hitting people on curbs.
joe rogan
So that's the driver, bro.
ralph barbosa
They get made fun of a lot.
They're like, Oh, it's always in the Mustang.
But I think it's a Ford thing.
I think Ford, a lot of their cars have delays.
joe rogan
No.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
That's not what that's about.
ralph barbosa
But I think, yeah, I don't know how.
For sure it's a driver thing, but I think it's, it's partly because they're not used to the delay.
joe rogan
What delay are you talking about?
ralph barbosa
I think, like, and I might be wrong.
joe rogan
Maybe, maybe it's just I have a Mustang, I should just say.
I have a new Mustang.
But I have a Super Snake.
ralph barbosa
Okay, so I don't know about brand new, but maybe still get in your Mustang and floor it and count how long it takes before it takes off.
Or try to time it.
It might be like half a second, it might be a second.
And count how long it takes for the, like when you let off the throttle, how long, like try to feel it, how long it takes for the motor to stop receiving the gas.
Like it's it's like about half a second or a second longer than most cars.
joe rogan
What?
ralph barbosa
I swear to God.
joe rogan
Find out if that's a thing.
ralph barbosa
It's a delay.
joe rogan
I've never heard of that before.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
Or especially in a truck.
I was driving a F 150, it has a 50, it's a single cab.
Those things, those things are fucking sick.
They're like the best trucks out there right now.
joe rogan
Delay after flooring.
This is an F 150, 5-litre.
When I punch it, there seems to be about a two second or less delay on the initial pickup.
That's something wrong with this car.
ralph barbosa
So I don't know if it's only the truck, but see about the Mustangs.
Try it, try it out.
joe rogan
I'm gathering money.
No, it has no delay.
No.
ralph barbosa
So I was thinking maybe that's why some people slide out of control, though, is because they're not used to the delay.
Because again, my truck, I don't have that truck anymore, but I'd have to kind of count for like, all right, I'm going to floor it.
And then, but also when I take my foot off, like, I need to take it off a little earlier than I normally would, depending on what I'm doing.
joe rogan
I feel like that your car wasn't tuned in correctly.
I feel like your car needs to be tuned in correctly.
ralph barbosa
You could probably fix it with a tuned, but that's how they come out of the factory.
joe rogan
Not mine, man.
I have a Let's put it to the test.
I have a Raptor and I also have a Mustang, and none of them has any problems like that.
Their immediate response.
ralph barbosa
Try it.
Compare them to your other cars.
Take out the GTR, take out the Tesla.
joe rogan
Okay.
ralph barbosa
Take out the Porsche.
joe rogan
The Tesla is great.
The Tesla is very different than all of them because it's instantaneous.
It's no gears.
It's one gear.
It's fucking preposterously fast.
But the Mustangs don't have that.
I think it's a bad driver.
ralph barbosa
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, the Mustangs are just, you know, it's like, you gotta try it, man.
It's not a good driver.
ralph barbosa
Even the GTR has a delay.
joe rogan
It's turbocharged, it's different thing.
Okay, the Mustangs are five liters, so it's a V8.
It's the Coyote engine.
ralph barbosa
Every car reacts a little different to it, like when you floor it, like the reaction time is different.
Maybe Ford's is just you just hang on to this reaction time.
I don't know, man.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Is there anything there about delay in the throttle on a Mustang?
jamie vernon
Is there any problem with the Mustang that they personally bought?
joe rogan
One person.
unidentified
But I'm not seeing like a man.
ralph barbosa
I'm collecting data.
I'm not trying to hit all Mustangs.
I'm trying to collect data.
joe rogan
I don't think you're collecting data.
I think you're talking about anecdotal experiences from cars that weren't tuned in correctly.
ralph barbosa
I want you to floor that Mustang, your Super Snake, and then tell me what the time was.
joe rogan
I floor that thing all the time.
It's but mine's a normal, not a normal one.
It's a Shelby.
unidentified
Okay.
ralph barbosa
So Shelby North America, they take a regular I still want the data, Joe.
I want you to floor it and give me the data.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Give me the, give me the, get that, what is it, what do they call them?
The trackies?
Where they track everything for you.
It's like an app.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
ralph barbosa
And you put this little thing in your cup holder and you floor it.
jamie vernon
2005 to 2009 poll on a.
thread here, do I have throttle lag?
And some people do.
Hmm, some lag, you know?
These are older Mustangs.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, those are older.
joe rogan
But these are older ones.
They're probably out of tune.
They're probably a bad fuel injection.
Something's wrong.
jamie vernon
Big's coming up with like a Yeah.
ralph barbosa
I'm just trying to collect data, all right?
Just like you do when you've had all these experts come on.
I'm just trying to collect data, all right?
joe rogan
Just like you do when you've had all these experts come on.
ralph barbosa
I'm not a scientist.
joe rogan
I love that you're doing that car channel though.
That's pretty cool.
I love cars, man.
I just I love watching people fix them and work on them and mod modify them.
ralph barbosa
It's so fun.
joe rogan
I mean, it might be like Twenty percent of the content that I watch is like car stuff.
Car stuff.
I just love it.
I love when people are really passionate about something.
You know, when they work on things.
ralph barbosa
Whenever I get interested in something, I like to really dig into it and learn about it.
It's just so rare when I find something that I'm genuinely interested in.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
But that's the problem I was telling you, that like, now I'm just hyper focused on this and I haven't written a new joke in like, I don't know how long.
joe rogan
Do you sit down and write or do you try to like let ideas come to you?
How do you do it?
ralph barbosa
I mean, like, both.
I try to let ideas come to me so I don't force something, but once I have the idea, then I try to like write it out or like.
And I wrote last night and the night before just because I'm like, bro, I have to write something down just to see if I can, like, squeeze something out.
But lately, like, the shows I've been doing, uh, and it's, and it's worked for the most part.
Lately, I just kind of go up there with half ideas and then, like, sketch them out on stage.
joe rogan
So you're trying to work on new material that way?
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's a great way to work on new material because you put yourself under pressure.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it feels more like a conversation with the crowd sometimes.
Because sometimes I'll just straight up tell the crowd, like, yo, what do you guys want to talk about?
Because I'm out of ideas.
Like, and it might turn into a lot of crow of crowd work, which is also fun too.
At least for me, I know some people don't like it, but I don't know.
I'm in a weird place creatively with comedy.
I feel like anything I try to think of is just not going to be funny.
joe rogan
Have you been working too much?
ralph barbosa
Maybe.
That might be why.
joe rogan
Are you nonstop or do you take weeks off every now and then?
ralph barbosa
I've been pretty nonstop up until now.
joe rogan
I was nonstop for a long time.
And then one time I decided to take a few weeks off and I think I wound up taking a month off where I didn't do any sets for a month.
It was weird.
I'd never done that before.
The only other time I did that was I had surgery on my knee.
unidentified
I took two weeks off.
Then I went on stage with crutches after that.
And then during COVID, during COVID, I didn't do stand up for a long time.
But I found out that when I took a month off, like I had a chance to actually think about what's interesting to me instead of just doing jokes that I thought worked.
You know, so I had no pressure to do a show.
I didn't have any shows scheduled.
So I said, let me just like think about life.
Let me think about what's interesting to me.
Let me think about what's bothering me.
Let me think about what's exciting to me.
Let me think about what's possible.
Think about things I'm interested in.
And just start writing down subjects.
So for a full month, I didn't do any performing.
I just collected ideas.
And I didn't think of it in terms of like I'm under the gun.
I have to get X amount of ideas.
I just thought about it like every day I'm going to spend just a certain amount of time either in front of the computer or looking at my phone just working on ideas.
Just finding shit that's interesting.
And then I had a folder that I'd put all these these ideas in and then I'd sit down and look at these folder like no no Huh, maybe that.
joe rogan
And then I'll write something about it, just a little bit.
Just write down like what's weird about it, what bothers me about it, and then go back to it the next day.
day and expand on it and maybe smoke a little red and think about it and go, what is what would life be like if no one figured out the wheel?
What would life be, you know, like what would life be like if no one ever invested any time into figuring out antibiotics?
You know, like, and then you just go on a rant, go on a rant, write things down and then write it.
I write in essay form.
So I don't try to write like in joke form.
I write about a subject.
Like, what is about the subject that's interesting to me?
I look at it from a bunch of different angles.
And then usually when I do that, there's like a thing in there that's funny.
One thing.
I could just pull that thing out.
and then figure out how to deliver that one thing.
ralph barbosa
Oh, I get you.
joe rogan
Yeah, so instead of just like always thinking about like what can I talk about on stage?
What are the jokes?
Think about like what interests you?
And if you feel like you're burnt out, if you do you have shows scheduled nonstop from now on?
ralph barbosa
Nah, so my next My next tour starts in September and some people were kind of upset with me because it's like a seven, eight show tour over like four months.
joe rogan
Why are they upset?
ralph barbosa
Because they're like, hey, it's not a tour, it's like a pit stop.
joe rogan
Oh, they're thinking you're lazy.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, and then like people are like, why did you come to this city?
Why is it like these seven cities?
But I'm like, I don't know, it just worked out that way, man.
I want fucking time off too, you know?
joe rogan
You gotta not listen to people.
Do what you want to do.
Don't listen to anybody.
ralph barbosa
I'm I'm feeling like I'm barely getting to that point where I like, I can finally, not that I'm like, okay, finally I'm here at this point.
I feel like it's like one step at a time where like, all right, I can care a little bit less now about this.
And then like, with time, I can care a little bit less about that or whatever.
unidentified
It's still tough.
I also don't, I think that one of the toxic things that it could be like a double-edged sword is like how much people let you do and help you do.
ralph barbosa
But I don't know how to write a play.
Like I shouldn't be writing plays.
And I feel like that's bad.
It's how much people let me do things.
I think sometime this week, and maybe next week, as part of the press tour, I'm going on some Spanish shows.
My Spanish is not that great.
Like I should not be allowed to be on Spanish TV.
joe rogan
How bad is it?
ralph barbosa
It's like if your first language is Spanish and you hear mine, you're just like that guy learned this later on.
Like he learned it as a kid maybe, but it's not like I can have a conversation, I can communicate with whoever, but it's not good enough to be on TV.
joe rogan
Right.
ralph barbosa
And I think it's crazy that there's not even like a check, like there's no test.
Like I thought at some point they'd interview me and just be like, you know what this means?
You know what to say this, say that?
Like, no, they're just like, you know what?
joe rogan
Well, they're trusting you.
You say you can speak Spanish.
ralph barbosa
That's crazy, the trust they put in.
Because they only backfire, I mean, yeah, it could backfire on my agent, my manager, whatever.
They could be like, hey, you've voted for this guy, sure.
But it's going to backfire on me more than anyone.
joe rogan
Well, you could always have someone come on that's fluent that can help you.
ralph barbosa
That's true.
joe rogan
Like when I had Yoel Romero on the podcast, Joey Diaz translated for Yoel.
Yoel's from Cuba, Joey's from Cuba.
So Joey would just you listen to Yoel and translate.
And then occasionally, Yoel would say things in English because his English is okay.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
My game plan is just to be like straightforward with it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
And just be like, look, before we go deeper into this, just know, I might fuck up here or there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just say that.
Yeah.
But that does happen in the Mexican community though, right?
They get a little mad if you can't speak Spanish.
ralph barbosa
Oh, bro, they hate you.
It's crazy.
But fuck it.
I just think that's just the funny kind of double-witch sword about the entertainment industry thoughough is like people will give you the tools to like try whatever you want to do next.
joe rogan
But why do you think that's bad?
ralph barbosa
Because sometimes I think it's bad because you can set yourself up for failure, humiliation, like or success.
Or success, true.
But that's why it's a double or two sword.
Did you ever watch that movie Top five, Chris Rock's movie Top five?
No.
I saw that movie in the theaters when I was like 18 maybe.
17.
So he's basically playing himself.
It's about a stand-up comedian who I think he's if I remember correctly, I think he's getting upset because people don't take him seriously as he directed a movie and acted in a movie and people kind of trash the movie and he's just like, what the fuck?
Why don't people see I'm more than just a comedian, you know?
And I think towards the end of the movie, he he ends up getting arrested and he's in he's in like the city jail and across from him is DMX like as DMX he's doing a cameo and DMX is like, yeah, I know what you mean like nobody understands like I don't always want to rap I want to sing too and DMX starts singing some song but it sounds horrible to to to to to to DMX's voice and so the lesson there is like, kinda like, know your space.
unidentified
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Like, know your lane.
ralph barbosa
Know your lane, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
So I think that's the dangerous part is sometimes you might lose sight of what your lane is and you can go into, you know, you venture out, which is cool, it's fun, you know, creatively.
But then it's like, hey, you might fucking, imagine if someone gave DMX like a tour where he was just singing fucking country songs or something.
Like, it'd be entertaining, but it wouldn't be great, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Right, but if you could do it, you gotta give him a chance to possibly pull it off.
ralph barbosa
That's true.
joe rogan
That's true.
A lot of people have done that.
Like Post Malone's got a whole country tour.
ralph barbosa
That's true.
joe rogan
And it's, I went to see it.
It was great.
ralph barbosa
But that's a very talented man.
I don't care what anyone says.
joe rogan
very talented man.
ralph barbosa
So it's like, you have to know how seriously to take yourself too.
joe rogan
Well, sort of, or you have to not think about it.
Like, he's like a guy, he kind of stays toasty, keeps rolling.
I don't think he ponders it too much.
I think he does what he wants to do.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
But like me, I know myself well enough to know, like, I'm no Post Malone.
I'm not starting a car channel out of like, I'm going to be the next fucking Top Gear.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're starting it because you're interested in cars, which is a good reason to start it.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, but I also know myself enough to know that, like, yeah, I'm just kind of, like, I'm keeping it goofy, I'm keeping it light.
unidentified
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
I'm not, I'm not necessarily like, I don't know how to explain it too well.
I'm just trying to make sure that I don't end up being DMX in that jail cell.
joe rogan
Do you worry about that?
Is that something that you worry about?
ralph barbosa
Sometimes, to a degree.
I think I know myself well enough to know, like, like, I'm trying to act.
I've been doing auditions and stuff.
unidentified
And I think that like, I have a pretty good gauge of like, if I land...
ralph barbosa
But my biggest fear is that, like, what if I did get, like, such a huge ego that I'm like, oh, these idiots don't know what they're talking about.
Like, I'm so talented.
Like, I feel like that's scary.
That's a scary part of the entertainment industry is like, when, when you believe the wrong stuff, or I feel like you shouldn't believe any of it, right?
Like they say, the good comments and the bad comments are, none of them are true.
joe rogan
Well, none of them are going to help you.
You should figure out who you are.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
But the thing about what you're saying that rings really true is that a lot of people grossly overestimate what they're capable of doing or how good they're doing something.
And a lot of that is if you get famous, then you have a bunch of Yes Men around you, a bunch of people kissing your ass, and the stuff that you're putting out is, it's not the best.
It's not what you're capable of.
ralph barbosa
You have to know how to, like, tell the line between, like, confidence and just like cockiness.
joe rogan
Most great people that I know kind of hate what they do.
Not hate what they do in that they don't love it, but they're very self-critical.
I think it's one of the ways that allows you to objectively analyze what you're doing.
And you have to, like, make this battle between you don't want to kill your own confidence, but you don't want to be overconf hyper critical about your own work, because if you don't, you're never going to get it to where it needs to be.
But then you also have to realize at one point in time, you're too close to it to see it the way other people are going to see it.
If I'm working on a bit for like three or four months, right?
And it's like frustrating, and I'm twisting it around, I'm adding to it and subtracting, and I'm trying to make it right.
Like sometimes you're so close to it that you don't even know that it's funny anymore.
And you don't want to lose that enthusiasm for the bit either.
So there's this balancing act for like paying so much attention to it that you hate it, but you hate it., but then falling in love with the idea again before you do it on stage.
Treating it as if it was new.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
Treating it as if it was new.
joe rogan
That's hard for people.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the dance, because the worst thing is seeing a comic on stage that's bored with doing stand-up.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
Or seeing people complain before they go up.
I can't believe we have to do a second show tonight.
Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
You could be working in a bakery somewhere in front of a fucking hot oven, sweating your dick off.
You could be doing some terrible fucking job that sucks.
Instead, you have literally the greatest job in the world and you're complaining you have to do it again.
Gotta reset your brain, reset your approach and and treat it like you love it again.
ralph barbosa
For anyone who's been to my shows and has not liked the crowdwork, I'm sorry for that, but I'm having fun with it.
And I think the majority of the audience is having fun with it, especially those that I'm fucking with, they're like talking to you.
joe rogan
Why do people complain that you're doing crowdwork?
ralph barbosa
Well, I've had a couple of messages over the summer where they're just like, hey man, you did a few jokes and then you just were talking to the crowd the whole time.
It's like, but the thing is that it's fun and it's fun.
And I don't want to complain about my job because it's either that or you watch me open mic it or do rehearsed jokes.
And it's true.
You can tell when a comedian is not enjoying their job.
And you hear comedians talk about it, they're like, oh man, I was doing that joke.
And then one day it just stopped working.
And it's like, yeah, because people probably can tell where you're just not feeling it anymore.
joe rogan
Exactly.
ralph barbosa
You're not forcing the joke maybe.
joe rogan
Right.
ralph barbosa
And I don't want to go up there and force jokes.
And I don't want to complain about my job.
Because my job is fun.
Like I'm beyond blessed to have this fucking job.
But it's fun.
Like I feel like comedy works when you're present in the moment.
unidentified
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
You know what I mean?
If I go up there and I try to force something and I'm just like, nah, like I'm the same old Ralph from six years ago.
Let me do the same old jokes.
You know what I mean?
Like people are gonna tell.
You know what I mean?
So like, right now I'm having a lot of not that I'm gonna keep just doing crowdwork, but I would do very minimal crowdwork before.
Like I'd go on stage and I might do like fucking five minutes tops.
Whereas now I might do like twenty, thirty minutes of it.
But if it's fun, it's fun.
Like, it's like with the Porsches and then the dude who was a Japanese dude who's like shaping them up.
Like, people might get mad, but like, if it's cool, it's cool.
I feel like comedy's like that too.
joe rogan
Like, people are like, If you're having fun, that's what's important.
As long as the audience is laughing, if some people aren't enjoying it, well, they won't go see you again.
ralph barbosa
That too.
And it's not like I'm going up there and like, fucking, like I'm having fun, but ninety percent of the audience is like, This is horrible.
Like, nah, like I'm pretty, they're laughing, you know what I mean?
I just do feel a little bit like, damn.
joe rogan
Some people don't like crowdwork.
ralph barbosa
Some people don't.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Some people just want to hear jokes.
ralph barbosa
If I have a hundred people at my show and like three of them don't like it though, that does fuck with me.
joe rogan
I'm just like, Fuck.
Those are the ones that are going to comment too.
Yeah.
Those that don't like it.
ralph barbosa
Those fucking people, man.
joe rogan
Are more likely to comment.
ralph barbosa
I let them down.
joe rogan
Well, you can't really listen.
You got to know, right?
Everyone has to know.
And the worst thing is when you don't know, like if you had a bad show and you think it was good.
We've all known guys like that, especially in the beginning.
They thought they did well.
You're like, bro, I'd kill myself if I had that set.
That's ridiculous.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you think that was good?
It's terrible.
Just people get delusional.
That's a fact.
But, you know, you just got to be able to self-assess.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, and if you're self-assessing, you can't read the comments because it's just going to get in your head and it's going to distract you from thinking about new things.
The amount of attention that you spend paying attention to other people's opinions is attention that you could be spending improving what you're doing.
As long as you're aware of what's good and what's not good.
But sometimes you do get too close to it.
Sometimes you need friends to help you out.
You know, sometimes you need that's one of the great things about having a club like the Mothership or the Comedy Store with a bunch of comics around.
You could say, I got this bit, it's fucking, I'm stuck.
I'm stuck with this.
And then someone will say, Do you still do it when you say this?
And you go, No, I don't do that anymore.
That was a big part of it, man.
You got to say that.
I'm like, You think?
I thought I could edit that out.
Like, No, no, no.
That makes it better because it sets it up for later.
Like, Oh, and then you go out and try it that way.
And you're like, Oh, shit, he was right.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, sometimes you need your friends around you to tell you, like, oh, you know, maybe you're doing that bit, you're doing it in a different way than you used to do, or what if you added this, or have you ever thought about it from this perspective?
Like, imagine the person that's saying that.
What are they thinking?
They're saying something crazy.
What are they thinking?
Like, oh, yeah, I never thought of that way.
And then you have a whole new element of the bit.
ralph barbosa
I was touring with my buddy Renee Vodka.
He's very funny.
He's big into crowdwork.
But I feel like touring with him helped me work out a few bits.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, because I was like, man, I was worried that I'd go out there and like, not be able to keep up.
You know, you want to be as funny as the funniest person on the show.
So I was like, what if I go out there and like, this fucking crowd hat hates me.
They like this, whatever.
But I was like, I'm gonna just do what I do.
And people like him or like on his team who don't see me perform every weekend are gonna talk about the parts of my set that stood out the most.
Like the best and the worst.
unidentified
They will.
ralph barbosa
They'll have to.
Like you walk off stage, they're gonna be like, Hey, why did you say that?
Like they're gonna make fun of me if I fucking bomb.
Or if I kill, they're gonna be like, Hey, that was funny.
Like, you know what I mean?
So I was like, I'm gonna just do the fucking set.
And they'll give me notes, like, without me asking, like, I'm sure they will.
And I felt like it worked.
Stuff that I was in my head, like, is this working?
Is this for us?
Like, I don't know.
I'd walk off stage and Renee would be like., why the fuck you say that?
That was fucking weird.
And I'd be like, nah, he's right.
He's right.
And then it's like helped shape the bit over months, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, for sure.
Having people that you can bounce ideas off is huge.
It's huge.
And having comics that pay attention to your set and give you notes.
I mean, Chris Rock used to hire guys just to watch his set.
He'd hire a team of comics to sit in the back and they would he would do a set at the comedy store and then they would meet up and go over the material.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, so they would have notes.
They'd all say, you know, I liked how you did this, I liked how you did that.
I felt like this one was like you were a little less animated this time and the last set.
You were like a little more aggravated about it and I think it made the bit better.
ralph barbosa
You've ever tried that?
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No, I haven't done it.
I mean, I've definitely gotten notes from friends before, you know, which is great.
Like when someone will sit back and give you some taglines and shit, that's pretty dope.
I love when people do that.
But what Chris did was pretty intelligent, very intelligent.
But he got a lot of shit for it because people were like, oh, he hires writers.
I'm like, I don't think that's what he's doing.
It's not like they're writing his set.
He's writing his set and then he's bouncing it off some of the best writers in comedy.
ralph barbosa
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
You know, which I think is a really good way.
He used to do it with Richard Jenny when some of his best stuff, if you go back to like his what I believe is his best stu special.
His early special is fucking incredible.
And, you know, a lot of that was him working with Richard Jenny in that capacity.
ralph barbosa
I like when he did that bit, I think it's like a legendary bit.
Chris Rock, bullets, bullets should cost five grand.
It's like there won't be no more innocent bystanders.
That's fucking hilarious.
joe rogan
He's got a lot of great ones.
ralph barbosa
You know, you know, you know, you've heard one of those bits where you're like, oh, I wish I would have thought of that.
Oh yeah.
One of those bits is, uh, it's one of my favorite all time jokes.
You've heard Louis CK when he talked about like he's afraid of new places.
Like that's his biggest fear of hell is that he just won't know how things work down there.
joe rogan
No.
I don't know.
unidentified
I've ever done that bit.
It's like something about like, he's like, what if you're walking through hell and then like some demon comes out of a hallway and he's like, he's like, makes you suck his dick.
He's like, I'll suck my dick.
And then he's like, how do you even know when a demon comes?
Like, it's like, then he comes, like fire ants all over you.
And then he leaves, you know, and then like some other Like, this is hell.
ralph barbosa
He's like, it's just some demon.
He's like, you better pace yourself.
You're here for eternity, you know?
Like, that's a joke.
I'm like, bro, I wish I'd have thought of that.
Like, it's just right there.
unidentified
Like, that sounds like a Louis E.K. joke.
ralph barbosa
That's fucking genius.
That dude's fucking genius.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's great.
The fucking He gave me a bunch of great taglines once at the improv.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He sat and watched my set and had a bunch of fun lines.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's fun to do.
I like, well, Louis did that a lot with Chris as well.
He did that with Chris Rock.
ralph barbosa
They were like in the same clash order?
joe rogan
Uh, you know, they were all doing it together in New York at the same time, yeah.
ralph barbosa
Hey, do you ever act?
joe rogan
Like, not anymore.
No?
No, I stopped doing that a while ago.
I don't like doing it.
Do you like it?
I'm too busy.
I'm too busy and it's not what I mean, I didn't mind doing it, but it's not the butterfly you want to chase.
No, you can't chase all the butterflies.
unidentified
Mm hmm.
joe rogan
No, it's like, it's too time consuming.
You know, if you'rere acting, you're on set all day long.
You might work six days a week, fifteen hours a day.
It's a lot, especially if you're doing a movie.
ralph barbosa
I didn't think about that.
I did a commercial for Verizon in Spanish.
joe rogan
Oh yeah?
ralph barbosa
Big thing.
Again, they should have checked my Spanish first.
That's on the set.
joe rogan
But did people complain about your Spanish?
unidentified
No.
ralph barbosa
Dude, you have no idea.
They made me talk to a dialect coach because they didn't have a problem with like, it wasn't a it wasn't a question of like, oh, he doesn't know how to say this word or that word.
No, it was like, it was fine.
It was my accent.
They said I spoke a northern Spanish, which I mean, yeah, my family's from like the northern part of Mexico, but apparently I didn't know, like I don't know, my Spanish isn't well enough to like, depict accents from different parts of Mexico.
joe rogan
Right.
ralph barbosa
But I guess it's the Mexican version of like country.
joe rogan
Oh, so you're like southern.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, but over there it's northern.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
And they don't like that.
They they said they wanted it to be a more neutral Spanish that they wanted me to sound like I'm from like a city, like a big like Mexico City or something.
So like I had to read we filmed like all day, right?
The commercial and there's no talking because the.
Because the dialogue is all like in my mind.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
ralph barbosa
And so at the end of the day they had me like record the lines into a microphone and I'm just like, all right, easy money for them.
joe rogan
So what was the difference in the way you had to pronounce the words?
Like can you give me an example?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, like apparently the way I talk I like I had to say the words with no like I had to say them like how do I explain it like just straighter like I don't know man it's like give me an example of the words.
Like I had to like I had to say like, Now that I'm with Verizon, I'll have so much money.
But I can't like it's like if you took a dude from like the fucking country.
country like Alabama, and you were like, you have to talk like if you were just from fucking, I don't know, Northern California.
Like, or where is it?
joe rogan
Yeah, Northern California is a good one.
ralph barbosa
Right?
They don't have like a neutral accent, right?
It's like a more neutral Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
So it's like, it's kind of tough.
joe rogan
Well, it's not tough for people in America because you hear all those accents.
ralph barbosa
Well, for me it was tough because, like, I don't live in Mexico.
So I'm like, you want me to talk like people I didn't grow up with?
Like, I'm talking like all the people I grew up with.
So it's like, it was a little foreign to me, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
I had to re-record my lines back home in Dallas, which wasn't a big deal.
I just remember talking to the dialect coach and she's like, No, no, say it like this though.
And I'm just like, I feel like I had I know people say I talk very monotonous, like very laid back, but I feel like I had to do that more in Spanish.
Like instead of just saying like, Hey, I had to be like, I had to be like, I had to talk like the fucking dude at the end of a commercial who's like, So subject maybe very to change.
joe rogan
Like, Oh, a fast guy.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
So I had to do it like fast and like, no accent.
So I couldn't I feel like I couldn't move my mouth a lot.
Like I had to just like whisper it out.
And then that's when they finally liked it.
Which I mean, they paid me very well.
Like shout out to Verizon.
I'm not complaining.
I just think it's funny that they were just like, and they didn't know at first because it's like different types of like Latinos working on that commercial.
It's like a Puerto Rican dude and a Venezuelan dude, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
But so you took the Mexicans to recognize the difference in the difference.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, the girl who was like the costume designer or whatever, she was just like, hey, this dude talks country as hell.
And everyone was like, what?
She was like, I'm here in Atlanta talking like that.
She was cool as hell.
I loved her.
But in my mind, I was like, Motherfucker, like, That's funny.
joe rogan
They probably would have released that and people would have gotten mad then.
ralph barbosa
I don't think so.
I think.
I feel like maybe people from my part of Mexico would have been like, hell yeah.
That's us.
We feel represented.
joe rogan
Right.
Like if you had something in America and you had someone talking in a Texas accent, no one would care.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, you wouldn't.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
You'd just be like, all right, fuck it.
joe rogan
Maybe they just know the Mexican market different though.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, I guess because they want to make sure they appeal to all sorts of Latinos and maybe, I don't know, maybe a Puerto Rican dude would hear that and be like, fuck, this is goofy as dude saying.
joe rogan
Have you ever thought about doing shows in all Spanish?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, I would I would like to break into that.
joe rogan
But Tom Segura has done a bunch of those.
ralph barbosa
Bro, I saw him in Spanish.
It was hilarious.
I've never seen Tom perform in English.
I've only seen like, you know, like his special or like on YouTube.
But when I saw him in Spanish live, I was like, bro, he's like, fucking.
joe rogan
He's got fluent Spanish.
And most people don't know that, which is funny because he's had people talk shit in Spanish around him.
Because he looks like a regular white guy.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's not.
ralph barbosa
He spent his summers like in Peru or something like that, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, he's fluent.
I mean, he could do shows in Spanish.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, yeah.
He told a story about like a, like a German prostitute or something like that.
I can't remember the bits.
All I remember was thinking like, man, this dude's like, fucking doing master kung fu up there.
joe rogan
It is master kung fu if you can kill in two different languages.
That's pretty wild.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's not a lot of humans.
ralph barbosa
It's like Tiger style versus fucking Crane or whatever you're saying.
joe rogan
Like, what percentage of comics can kill in two languages?
It's got to be the smallest percentage.
I mean, there's probably a handful in the whole world.
ralph barbosa
I want to film a I want to film a special like in Japan, but I want to do it like just to fucking like troll comics like in the States, where like I don't want people to know that it wasn't a real special.
Like I want maybe just a promo for a special.
And it's just me in Japan, but killing it in front of a Japanese audience, but I'm not speaking Japanese at all.
Like I'm just doing the same English jokes.
And I and I want to promote it as if I recorded it over like a Japanese tour and just everybody wondered like, what the fuck?
Like, was it English speaking Japanese people?
joe rogan
Well, you just gave it up already, so it's not going to work now.
ralph barbosa
I would I'll still fuck with the people who don't listen to your podcast.
joe rogan
They'll find this.
They'll find this recording.
They'll go back and find it.
He was planning on trolling us.
ralph barbosa
I got another one.
joe rogan
Why is that even interesting to you?
Why do you want to do that?
ralph barbosa
I just think it's funnier to fuck with people.
I just think it's I just think it'd make me laugh to watch like a trailer for a special where I'm just like killing in Japan.
Yeah, like to people who have no idea what I'm saying.
But like, I want people to wonder like, did they know?
Was there a translator?
joe rogan
Well, a lot of people in Japan speak English.
You probably could do shows over there.
And there's a lot of expat's over there.
Like if you wanted to do a show in Japan, you'd probably have a lot of expat's and British people.
ralph barbosa
Expat's?
joe rogan
Ex.
People that left America and live in Japan.
There's a lot of those.
It's really cheap to move to Japan.
They're actually encouraging people to move to Japan.
ralph barbosa
Bro, I saw a YouTube video on that.
This dude, I think he moved from like LA or somewhere in California.
And for like 110 grand he got like an acre and a half or something like that or more maybe.
joe rogan
Well, Japan is experiencing a population collapse.
ralph barbosa
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
They're not having kids.
at a replacement rate.
So a replacement rate means like if there's two parents, you should have like three or more kids.
Like if you're trying to replace the people that are here, when you think about how many people are going to die of old age, how many people are going to die, how many people are going to live, how does the population sustain itself over the course of the next X amount of generations, well, you have to have a high replacement rate.
And right now, Japan has a very low replacement rate.
Like it's spooky low.
We're at the point where they're in a panic and they're trying to figure out how to encourage people to move to Japan, how to get people in Japan to have kids.
ralph barbosa
Oh, because there's like a lot of insults though.
joe rogan
That's what it is.
ralph barbosa
But no, but I'm saying it's like they're I mean, that's that's got to be kind of scary because if they're not replacing people, that means like fucking jobs won't get.
joe rogan
Not just jobs, they're gonna, the country's gonna go under, there won't be any people left.
ralph barbosa
What do you mean?
I mean, there would just be way less people, but it's not like they're gonna all disappear.
Well, they'll all die off and if they don't have kids, I'm worried about like who's gonna fucking, you know, farm and take care of the animals and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, there's gonna be less of that too, but they're probably the people that will have kids, is the farmers and the rural people.
But what is Japan's replacement rate?
It's very low, right?
ralph barbosa
Japan's our replacement rate.
We're all right, right?
We're knocking, knocking, knocking.
joe rogan
A little bit weird too.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're in a weird situation too.
I feel like there's a lot of people here.
ralph barbosa
They've already had their girlfriends already.
joe rogan
Well, that's good.
That's nice.
There's a lot of people here, and there's a lot more people aren't having kids than ever before.
It's different.
We're not in danger, but like South Korea is in danger.
Like South Korea, the replacement rate is really bad.
Yeah, I think it's something crazy, like how many people that are alive today will have grandchildren, and it's very small.
ralph barbosa
Fuck, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But you don't think about it that way because you just look at all the people that are there right now.
If you're in Japan, you see all this traffic, like, oh, their population is fine.
If you go to Korea, look at all the people.
But the reality is, these are people that are alive now because the baby boomers, then Generation X, and then people were still having kids, but the amount of people that are having kids right now is lower than it's ever been.
ralph barbosa
So how do we fix that?
joe rogan
It's hard because you're going to have to make people attracted to each other, and some people just aren't attractive.
Some people put no effort into that.
Some people are social outcasts and they've lived their life that way.
So Japan's population is shrinking, here's what it means and what some are doing about it.
So Japan may have the longest national life expectancy about eighty five years and the world's largest city, Tokyo, but the nation's population has been in decline for fifteen years.
Last year, more than two people died for every baby born, a net loss of almost a million people, and now the island nation is on pace to shrink in half by this century's end.
Diminishing population is Japan's most urgent problem, says Taro Kono, longtime high ranking minister of Japan's parliament.
Kono, nearly elected prime minister in twenty twenty one, said he intends to seek the highest office again and believes the country should prioritize combating the population decline.
It's a giant issue.
There are less and less number of younger generation.
All the burdens are on the young generation and they won't be able to sustain.
So our society is going to be breaking up.
Economy is just going to stagnate.
Pretty nuts, man.
Japan's military recruited only half the people it needed.
There's a labor shortage in every industry, including the government.
ralph barbosa
That's right.
Bless you.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
Crazy, right?
ralph barbosa
It's crazy that the cure to this is just like, don't pull out.
joe rogan
Well, not just don't pull out, but actually raise your children.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, that too, you know.
joe rogan
And have a bunch.
Yeah, have like, that's why Elon has like nineteen kids.
ralph barbosa
He does?
joe rogan
He's got a ton of them.
But I think you're supposed to take care of the kids.
You're supposed to be around them all the time.
How can you do that if you have nineteen?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, that's like a little village.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a lot of people.
Kondo says he's one of thousands of Japanese in monogamous romantic relationships with fictional characters.
What?
Kondo says he's one of the thousands of Japanese in monogamous romantic relationships with fictional characters.
What?
That's the guy?
unidentified
No, no.
ralph barbosa
Who's that?
Oh, that's this guy.
unidentified
That guy?
joe rogan
That guy's in a Yeah, he looks like he needs to be in a romantic He married an anime character in a formal ceremony in 2018.
Oh, Christ.
ralph barbosa
Animes was fucking it up.
Look at this dude, man.
joe rogan
He's in a monogamous relationship with fictional characters.
Almost half of Japan's millennials singles aged 18-34 self-report as virgins.
ralph barbosa
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Compared to barely 20% in the U.S. That's a lot in the U.S. There's 20% 34-year-old virgins.
That's crazy.
jamie vernon
Self-reported.
joe rogan
Right.
They might be lying, lying hoes.
How many of them are ladies?
How many of them are ladies with body count?
ralph barbosa
Bro, but here's the thing.
like fuck man why this sounds like Right.
But they're not even getting into relationships with anime characters.
It's like, do we want that guy to have more kids?
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
That's a good point.
That's a good point.
And what girls are going to want to be burdened down with that guy is your provider.
And also you're going to have to have sex with him.
Like, you're not going to be attracted to that guy.
ralph barbosa
You know what Japan should do is they should outsource.
joe rogan
They're doing that too.
ralph barbosa
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're bringing in a lot of people from other countries.
ralph barbosa
They got to bring in people to train these guys.
joe rogan
Oh, to train them.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
Like, I got douchey friends who are like on dating apps and shit.
They're fucking, they're just sleezy.
unidentified
easy you know i mean they're out here trying to go out on dates like every fucking night with girls send these guys over there we pay them a handsome price and we get them to make their like hinge profiles for them and just fucking lie what is this jamie what are you showing me a village in japan that has a bunch of puppets around what because the population decline yeah oh they're making feel like they're surrounded by people i don't know oh my god to combat its loneliness creating colorful mannequins
resembling their their loved ones what that's depressing mimicking the vibrant life so they have dolls everywhere mimicking the people because they're in such population decline.
ralph barbosa
There's fucking people in Japan who hate, like, tourism.
Motherfucker, you need me out there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, there's people that were the grandchildren, the people that survived the bombs.
ralph barbosa
Oh.
I wasn't me, I was Oppenheimer, a bunch of old white dudes, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, I wasn't there.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Come on.
ralph barbosa
My grandpa was in Mexico doing, you know what?
Creating two families so that we don't have your problems.
joe rogan
There you go.
ralph barbosa
We have a uncle that my mom found on Facebook when I was in high school.
It's like, you know, one of my grandpa's.
like a bad way to put it.
And I love my uncle, but he's like one of his bastard children, you know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
And I just thought, I don't know, it was always hilarious to me that like my mom just found this dude and like brought him over and my grandpa was just like, Hey, like, how you been?
Because my grandpa apparently used to go check up on him from time to time.
But it's just so funny to me that my grandpa, like nothing ever happened, like, Oh yeah, I didn't tell you guys, like those were his vibes, you know what I mean?
We all went to a baseball game together.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
How weird was that?
I didn't think you felt sad for him?
ralph barbosa
Nah, I thought it was cool.
I don't I don't think he liked, needed my grandpa.
Like, I think he grew up with like a father figure, like a stepdad or something.
So I don't think he was like, Oh, my dad.
You know, I think he was kind of, he probably, I mean, I don't know what all his emotions were.
I imagine that's hell, you know, beneath.
But like, on the outside, he was just very nice to me and like he's cool with my mom, he's cool with my uncle.
I think for him, he I'll say this, for me, he was the first relative that I on my mom's side that I felt like I really related to.
He's the only one on my mom's side that looks like me too.
joe rogan
Wow.
ralph barbosa
And my my mom, my uncle, my cousins, they're all like tough.
Like I've seen them all been questioned by police in handcuffs and they don't break.
And like even my mom and I'm sitting there like whispering to my mom, like just snitch, just snitch, like say something, you know, like my mom, like I've seen that, you know, and like then I meet my uncle and he has like this kind of like, hey, let's look at the glass half full, like more sensitive type.
And I'm like, that's my guy.
Like me and this dude click.
He's a teacher.
Yeah, he's such cool people.
I just thought it was hilarious that my grandpa never like I don't know if he apologized to him, but to my grandpa it was just like, hey, look what ended up happening.
The whole family's together.
And he's like, bro, you hid a kid from your other kids for like years.
Like, these are all grown adults in their thirties now.
Wow.
And my grandpa even, I remember my grandpa telling my uncle, he's like, yeah, don't you remember?
He's like, you were in karate.
He's like, I used to go down there and stay with you every now and then.
He's like, and you were showing me what you learned in karate.
You were like twelve or something.
And he's just like, no, I don't remember that.
But like, my uncle and my other uncle and my mom are listening to this story.
And I imagine in their minds, they're just like, what the fuck?
Like, so that weekend that you were gone for like work, like, that's what you were doing?
joe rogan
Like, going to see your other kids carrying.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
So my grandpa, like, he never really talked like if he did anything wrong, which I thought was hilarious.
It has to be traumatizing for my, you know, my mom and my uncle and stuff.
joe rogan
But like, people were different back in those days.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
For sure.
joe rogan
When life is harder, people are less sensitive.
ralph barbosa
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
For sure.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you go back to your grandpa's days or my grandpa's days.
Different world.
Plus, you know, you got to realize those people were dealing with, that was like, like, what year was this?
ralph barbosa
What, when my grandpa was having these kids?
It's like 80s.
joe rogan
Yeah, different world.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, for sure.
He told me stories.
Like, I think they put my grandpa to work when he was like seven.
my grandparents like on both sides but Like loggers.
Yeah, like loggers.
Yeah.
It's all good.
That's why I think we need to go back to maybe not like, you know, trying to conquer empires and shit, but we need to dollar it back a little bit.
People need more pain.
Life is getting too leisurely.
Yeah.
When life gets too leisurely, you start to, I think you start to look for like the next little issue.
Sure.
And the issues get smaller and smaller.
joe rogan
Exactly.
ralph barbosa
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Well, we're finding that in this society, for sure.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
And people concentrate on a lot of things that aren't really important because life's a little easy.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Nothing wakes people up like a nice attack.
Like after September 11, let me tell you something, man.
This country, you were too young to probably remember it.
But during September 11th, the country was so united.
It was so crazy.
Everybody in LA had American flags on their cars.
In LA?
In LA.
I mean, I'm talking about like 80% of the cars.
You drive down the street for the first couple of weeks, 80% of the cars had American flags on them.
It was nuts.
Everybody was united.
ralph barbosa
That's always kind of crazy to me when I hear people talk about like, because I don't go to LA too often, but I hear people talk about like how LA was.
Like the South Park guys, I think in an interview they were saying like to be like punk rock in LA, you had to say you were a like a Republican.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
LA trips me out though.
I don't know.
I mean, there's stuff that fascinates me about liberals and like Republicans, maybe because I'm not like too far on either side or whatever, but it just trips me out that there's like not that I'm like a huge patriot, but it trips me out that like people, I guess, are not happy here or like not proud of it.
I used to spend my summers in Mexico.
It's like, you'll appreciate a lot of American shit like that, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
But I'm not going to go too far into this.
joe rogan
Well, it's what you were talking about before, is if your life is too easy, you find things to complain about.
Like, America's the worst.
Like, no, it's not the worst.
It's the best.
It's just people are fucked.
And people in other parts of the world, when you give them more power and you have less control over your own life and you have less freedom, less ability to express yourself, it's a lot fucking worse.
ralph barbosa
I'm just happy we got all this food too.
Like, we got good food.
You're watching, you're hearing about like a menu like in some European country or like, I saw a menu for a restaurant like in fucking Prague or something like that one time.
I'm not saying that all their food is like that.
They look fucking horrible.
They look like bland food.
I know our food is bad and it's making us fat.
But at least it's good, you know?
Like, at least we have the fucking option to get fat.
The option.
joe rogan
The options are good.
ralph barbosa
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, but if you live in a place where people are poor, you're going to eat bland food.
ralph barbosa
It's true.
joe rogan
Unless they have good spices that aren't expensive.
ralph barbosa
You like Indian food?
joe rogan
I love Indian food, yeah.
ralph barbosa
I can't do it.
joe rogan
Can't you eat spicy?
ralph barbosa
I like spicy.
joe rogan
You like spicy Mexican?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, spicy Mexican.
joe rogan
Yeah, what's wrong with spicy Indian?
What don't you like?
ralph barbosa
I mean, it tasted good.
I've only had it like twice, but both times just gave me runs.
Like my stomach is not built for it.
joe rogan
Not built for curry?
ralph barbosa
Uh uh.
I'm not.
I do, and like, I don't know.
Then again, maybe it was just the people who made it.
Both times it was homemade.
unidentified
Uh.
ralph barbosa
So I'm not gonna say that.
joe rogan
Yeah, go to a good Indian restaurant, see if you agree still.
ralph barbosa
I like sushi a lot.
That's my shit, man.
joe rogan
Well, you wanna get the runs, that's a good way to do it too.
ralph barbosa
Sushi?
unidentified
Sure.
ralph barbosa
Oh, because it's like raw fish and chips.
joe rogan
Well, you can get parasites and stuff.
I like sushi too, but there's a reality of eating raw things.
That's why pregnant women shouldn't eat sushi.
ralph barbosa
I fucking, I tried, uh, what's it called?
The snails, what do they call it?
joe rogan
Escargo.
ralph barbosa
Bro, I tried that for the first time.
That's just delicious.
joe rogan
It's pretty good, right?
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Who would have imagined the snails smell so good?
ralph barbosa
Whoever had the boss to try that first snail, like, they were on something.
joe rogan
Bro, they were poor and starving.
They probably cooked everything they could.
They probably tried everything.
That's why people eat crickets.
That's why, you know, people are starving.
ralph barbosa
Never tried crickets.
joe rogan
They're good.
ralph barbosa
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, I've had them.
Had them in Mexico.
unidentified
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Yeah.
They fried them up and served it.
ralph barbosa
I've heard about that, but.
joe rogan
They like had a bowl of them sitting in the hotel when we got in there.
I was like, what is this?
ralph barbosa
What the fuck?
Which part of Mexico did you go to?
joe rogan
I think this one was I think it was Puerto Vallarta.
ralph barbosa
On there, but not there.
joe rogan
I think that's where a lot of people that eat bugs, man.
A lot of people eat fried bugs.
ralph barbosa
It's nuts, bro.
joe rogan
That's not bad.
They're kind of crunchy.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, not bad.
Cicadas, you know when those cicadas hatch?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
People eat cicadas.
ralph barbosa
Got a lot of those in the garage.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
I might try it.
unidentified
Yeah.
Try it up.
ralph barbosa
Is that a lot in the comments?
joe rogan
I'll find a recipe online.
ralph barbosa
The garage door open, all that shit.
joe rogan
Get those fuckers, fry them up.
ralph barbosa
I don't know.
joe rogan
I'm not kidding.
Like my friend Ryan, yeah, he was just on the podcast recently.
He had a big hatch, you know, because every x amount of years they have a bunch of them emerge and it's like crazy.
And they were everywhere.
And he baked them in the oven, I think with teriyaki sauce.
He said they were delicious.
ralph barbosa
Do you ever take advantage of the fact?
joe rogan
Look at that.
Those crickets.
ralph barbosa
Oh, no, I couldn't eat those.
joe rogan
Are those cicadas too?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Are those cicadas and crickets or just cicadas?
jamie vernon
Yeah, just cicadas.
joe rogan
So they're on a stick.
They're on a stick like a shish kebab.
ralph barbosa
Fuck that dude.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah, bro.
ralph barbosa
I'm changing my mind.
I'll get in there.
Do you realize like, and do you ever take advantage of the fact that you hold so much power over so many people?
Like you're Joe Rogan.
If you told someone right now, like, if you eat fucking gum from the floor, it's twice as nutritious as, like, a steak., like a steak.
joe rogan
People that once.
ralph barbosa
People would believe you.
joe rogan
No, they'll only believe you if you lie to them once.
They'll believe you that time.
And then every time after that, they'll never believe you.
ralph barbosa
Have you ever tried to fuck with anyone?
jamie vernon
No?
joe rogan
No.
With great power comes great responsibility, Ralph Barbosa.
ralph barbosa
If I was you, I'd be lying to people all the time.
joe rogan
You probably would.
Yeah.
You probably would.
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
I'd be like, STDs are a myth.
unidentified
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
People would just stop using condoms, like, and then I'd fix Japan's population problem, you know?
joe rogan
Well, you just need to send some horny dudes over there to get things going.
They're going to have to do something though.
They're importing humans.
They're asking people to move there.
ralph barbosa
I might move there.
joe rogan
Very beautiful place.
Beautiful, safe, peaceful.
ralph barbosa
If they say people are real quiet though, that kind of scares me.
Because like, I'm quiet, but I'm afraid to be the loud guy now.
joe rogan
You will definitely be the loud guy in Japan.
Yeah.
They're real quiet.
And they're super orderly.
When they walk down the street, they don't bump into each other.
They move around each other.
Everyone's really polite.
Everything's super clean.
Like, you go through Tokyo, big, beautiful city, everything's clean.
No garbage on the ground, no pollution, I mean pollution for sure, but I mean, you know, just garbage, trash.
ralph barbosa
I mean, but they live pretty compact, don't they?
In the city, I think.
joe rogan
In the city.
Well, they do in New York City, you know?
ralph barbosa
Yeah, dude, that's I not my jam.
I like it, but after that, like two, three, it's like two months, maybe, I was like, all right, I need to go back to where there's like fucking space.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Even when I lived in New York, I didn't live in New York City because I couldn't afford it.
I had to park.
I had to have a car back then because I was doing road gigs.
So I would have had to got a parking spot at a garage in New York City.
So you have to pay.
And they could be hundreds of dollars back then a month, probably now thousands of dollars a month that I just didn't have.
So in order for me to, and also the apartments in New York were so much more expensive than where I was.
I lived in New Rochelle, which is, you know, half hour plus outside of New York City.
ralph barbosa
I didn't even know it.
joe rogan
It's just a regular suburban neighborhood, but it was great.
I had a little driveway, I could park my car in my driveway.
It was golden.
It was perfect.
ralph barbosa
My favorite wings are in New York.
On the Upper East Side, there's a place called International Wing Factory, which I think is a crazy name, International Wing Factory.
There's only two tables in there.
You could fit four people in that restaurant.
But the wings, the Nashville Hot Wings, they're so fucking good.
joe rogan
Well, New York has an insane number of great restaurants.
That's one good thing about living in New York City.
If you're a person who likes going out to dinner and you live in New York City, you can go to a different place every night of the week for years.
And you have some of the best restaurants on Earth.
ralph barbosa
I don't know what, like, the math is on this, but if you have so many good restaurants, there it is.
Yeah, that's the spot.
Two tables.
And they play techno a lot.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, it's a great place to eat.
I just don't think it's good for your brain to be surrounded by that many people all the time.
One thing they have though that's nice is the park.
Central Park is incredible.
If you live in the city, you can actually be in nature.
ralph barbosa
Would you say you don't think it's good for there to be a lot of people around you?
joe rogan
I don't think stacked up like that on top of each other is normal for people.
I don't think your brain is designed to operate like that.
Just be constantly surrounded by people that you don't even know all the time.
That's very unusual in human history.
Like most people knew everyone around them up until, you know, X amount of thousands of years ago.
We're kind of designed to be in tribal environments where we understand what our environment is and who's around us and what's our community.
You know, I have friends like my friend Jim Norton who lives in New York City.
He was telling me, he's like, I live in this giant apartment.
I don't know anybody in it.
He goes, I don't know who my neighbor is.
I don't know anybody.
He goes, which is kind of crazy.
Because you think about it, you're in a building, you share a building with hundreds of people.
ralph barbosa
They're in every direction of you.
joe rogan
All around you, you don't know any of them.
I just think it takes away a sense of community, which is weird because you think the more people, the more community.
But it doesn't work like that.
unidentified
when you have too many people, I think oftentimes you don't value them because there's too many of them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
mean anything to you.
That must be why they let people just, like I saw this dude one time at the subway laying down face down on the ground and I Yeah, they don't give a fuck.
ralph barbosa
I'm like, well, that guy could be dead.
Nobody.
joe rogan
No.
ralph barbosa
It's just another fucking date to them.
joe rogan
Right, if it was a small town in the middle of Oklahoma and the guy was like, lying down like that, it was a regular guy, you'd be like, Oh my God, are you okay, sir?
People are like, checking in on you, they call the police.
Yeah.
In the subway, that guy could be dead for a day before anyone says anything.
Also, you have to deal with schizophrenics and fucking psychotics people.
So when you go down to the subway, you can't stand close to the edge because people literally push people in front of trains.
ralph barbosa
Hey, well, hold on.
That brings me I wanted to ask you something.
Have you ever, because I saw you have, like, the books on psilocybin.
I know you've done a lot of research, like, on mushrooms.
Have you ever read anything about like mushrooms or other other kinds of drugs being able to like like trigger schizophrenia in people?
Like if it's in their genetics?
joe rogan
They think that's the case with marijuana, especially high dose pot, maybe maybe edibles.
I'm not sure if they think it's more from edibles or more from just smoking it.
But yeah, there's a certain amount of people that it seems like it triggers some kind of schizophrenic break.
Like maybe they might have a tendency towards schizophrenia and something, you know, like the real crazy paranoia that you can get if you get really high.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
For some people, that crazy paranoia hits the switch and they don't come back.
ralph barbosa
I I've had my last few mushroom trips, not with weed though, but I'm trying to think if I was smoking and on shrooms.
My last few mushroom trips, I started hearing voices, but I also think it might have been like, I was exhausted, like my brain was just like, because I'd be awake all day and then I'd do the mushrooms like at midnight and then I'd be awake until like the next day basically.
But at some point or another in the trip, usually towards the end of of the trip, I like to hear voices.
So it scared me off mushrooms.
I haven't done them in like I don't know how long.
But I was just I read I heard her.
joe rogan
What were the voices saying?
ralph barbosa
One of them, I remember arguing with like other versions of myself.
I was talking like loud.
Like on one of them, it was a really bad trip though.
I ate like somewhere north of like seven or eight grams.
And that one was bad.
I kept blacking out.
But on that trip, I argued with like two other voices, which I'm pretty sure were like other versions of myself, which was me.
Me was me, me.
Like the balanced one, more balanced one.
And then I had like this other one that was like a very like angry version of myself, very much like a like like shut the fuck up, stop complaining type.
And then I had like a very like sensitive little bitch version of myself.
And I felt like they were all three arguing and I was just like arguing back.
joe rogan
Out loud.
Was there anyone around you?
ralph barbosa
No.
joe rogan
That's good.
ralph barbosa
I was in a hotel room by myself.
joe rogan
Jeez.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
I fucked that hotel room.
joe rogan
You took you took seven grams in a hotel room?
ralph barbosa
Mm hmm.
Like ninety percent of my trips have been in hotelsels.
Why?
I don't know.
I have fun.
joe rogan
You go out into the nature.
ralph barbosa
I've never tried that.
joe rogan
I've never tried that field.
unidentified
I know.
ralph barbosa
It's better.
joe rogan
It's way better.
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
I don't know.
I don't want to be high in public.
joe rogan
Oh, well, that's a good point.
ralph barbosa
I've never been to a place in Vegas.
joe rogan
Go somewhere that's unpopulated.
Like go to some national forest place.
Do it out in the place where Travis Walton got abducted.
Go down that logging road.
Take seven grams right at the spot.
I wonder if you could find the spot where he got abducted.
I wonder if there's a pin, like a Google pin.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'd go to that.
Sniff the ground.
ralph barbosa
I hope I never get abducted by you aliens.
joe rogan
Why?
ralph barbosa
I don't know.
joe rogan
They always bring you back.
Everyone seems to come back.
They don't steal people.
ralph barbosa
Nobody's gonna believe me.
joe rogan
I know a lady whose grandfather was a famous abducted.
ralph barbosa
Like, but people believed him?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, I believe him.
I don't know, because he was an abducted in the 1950s.
I think it was the 1950s.
Betty and Barney Hill.
I believe it was the 1950s.
So Angela Hill is a UFC fighter.
And she didn't even tell me this until after the podcast.
ralph barbosa
Betty and Barney Hill.
I think there's the Flintstones?
joe rogan
No, this is a very famous case.
So, what year was this, Jamie?
1961.
1961.
So Betty and Barney Hill Wait, were they an interracial couple?
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
That must have been crazy for the Times, huh?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Crazy for the Times.
And then on top of that, they get abducted by Aileen.
Can they catch a fucking break?
So her, their granddaughter is Angela.
So Angela who fights in the UFC.
ralph barbosa
Okay.
joe rogan
And I didn't know about it.
Well, we did a whole podcast together.
I just want to talk to her about her career, fighting career.
At the end of the podcast, she's like, Oh, my grandfather was, I forgot to tell you, was Barney Hill.
I was like, what?
Because I know that case inside and out.
It's a crazy case.
So they both came back, they went on a trip, and then they saw something in the sky, and then they blacked out and lost time.
And they don't know what happened.
And they woke up on the side of the road in the car and drove, but they were missing time, like more than an hour, I think it was.
And then they started having these crazy nightmares.
So they both go to psychiatrists, and the psychiatrist or the psychologist does a hypnotic regression thing, like, let's try to find out what happened to you.
And they both, independently, have this crazy story of being taken aboard a UFO and examined by these beings.
And this is in 1961 when this was not something that people talked about.
This is like, now the problem is that whole UFO abduction close encounters of the fourth kind that's become a thing that everybody knows about.
Everybody knows UFOs abduct people.
But when 1961 when these people told that story, that was a completely novel thing.
Nobody had ever heard that before.
And so it was a really crazy story.
And then other people with similar stories.
ralph barbosa
What are the experiments that they conduct conduct on this?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
You know, you don't know because hypnotic regression is weird.
So someone could hypnotize you and put thoughts in your head.
If they were manipulative, they could put thoughts in your head and memories in your head that didn't exist.
So you could someone could hypnotize you and if they were very skilled, they could figure out a way to get you to believe that something happened to you, especially something minor that didn't really happen.
ralph barbosa
I could hire a hyp what is hypnotizer.
Hypnotizer to put the memory in my head that I hooked up with Margot Robbie in a fucking three s with Scarlett Johansson?
joe rogan
No, that's too outside of science fiction.
That's too ridiculous.
Nobody would believe that.
But you wouldn't even believe that.
And you'd be DMing them and then they have restraining orders on you.
Hey girls, let's do that again.
That shit was fire.
No, but like, you know, you could maybe, maybe someone could put a memory in your head that you got lost at the park when you were a child and you were terrified and then the police found you and they brought you back to your parents.
Do you remember that?
You're like, no, I don't.
You probably blacked it out.
ralph barbosa
Let's try to already like a I don't know, this is like some shit I've seen on another fucking Instagram reel.
But don't they say like a lot of our memories, like we change them each time we remember them?
joe rogan
Yes.
And then your memories become a memory of your recollection of the memory.
So it's like one thing that happens to your friends when they want to tell some crazy story about high school or something like that.
Over the years, that fucking story morphs and changes and shit gets added to it.
And then she's got a fucking frying pan and she's running down the street screaming.
Her tits are hanging out.
And then your friend's like, What?
Her tits are hanging out.
No, no, no.
You never told it like this before.
It's like over time, stories change, you know?
Because the human memory is like, I have a very good memory, but it's also not exact, right?
Like, I don't see it in my head like a film, you know?
Like, I could see the most amazing movie.
unidentified
I could go see, like...
joe rogan
It's incredible.
And then afterward, I don't remember everything exactly.
I can't replay that movie in my head like pressing play.
So memory is like scattered.
It's abstract.
It's a bunch of like weird flashbacks of things.
Oh, yeah.
Then there was that thing.
Oh, yeah, then there was that thing.
But they've shown that you can introduce memories into people's heads that aren't real.
So this is the problem.
With hypnotic regression, you have to wonder the people that are involved in writing, like there was a book called Abduction by this guy named John Mack, who is a psychologist at Harvard, I believe, and he did a series of these hypnotic regression things with people that have had abductions with aliens.
But he's also writing a book about that.
So it makes you want to go, like, did he want to achieve those results?
Like, how did he talk to these people?
Like, what was the questions?
Did he guide them in that way?
You know?
It's like, were they independent people?
Did they speak to different hypnotic regression therapists that had different results with them?
Is it dependent upon how the person's talking to you?
Because someone's talking to you while you're in hypnosis.
It's not as simple as like you take a pill and then you remember your past.
No, someone's talking to you.
They're asking you specific kinds of questions with a specific tone.
You know, and maybe it's a man's voice, and maybe it's like you feel like he's judging you, or it's a woman's voice, and it's more comforting.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, it's got to be scary, you know, to get hypnotized, and then what if they make me talk about a memory?
that I didn't want to bring up.
joe rogan
Right, or what if they put something in your head like a Manchurian candidate thing?
You know that concept?
Manchurian candidate is like you hypnotize someone into you can bring them into action with like a phone call.
You have been activated.
You say like a phrase and...
And then you go and assassinate the president or whatever it is.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
That's some scary shit.
joe rogan
That's scary shit because I don't know how much they can actually do.
unidentified
I know they've definitely done a bunch of experiments to see how much they could talk people into doing certain things, how much they could hypnotize people into certain behaviors, whether or not they can get someone to be an assassin with a phone call.
I know this sounds crazy, but I believe, well, I mean, not that I believe it, but I guess I like play with theories in my head.
But what if all the music that gets allowed to be on the radios and all the shows that get allowed to be on TV are like, it's like certain patterns in the music or like to the words that they say in the shows, like that like brainwashes you to like do stuff that we do.
Like maybe that's what makes us like go to work and do our 40 hours a week and like respect a 30 minute lunch or something.
Like the Rowdy Roddy Piper movie, like They Live.
Like that kind of.
It's like, uh, that's a bad idea.
There's too many variables, like too many people that have to be working in coordination.
Everybody is in on this except for you.
All the people making the music are.
ralph barbosa
are in on this no but Out of all the music that gets made, there's a lot of similarities within music.
Right.
joe rogan
Because there's only a certain amount of chords.
ralph barbosa
Right.
joe rogan
And there's a lot of genres and there's repetitive topics that people choose because they're popular.
ralph barbosa
So I don't think every hit is a hit.
Like sometimes you hear a song on the radio and you're like, how did it get on the radio?
Sucks ass.
joe rogan
Right.
ralph barbosa
But maybe it hit within those chords that like when you hear a certain chord and it makes your mind go into like a different state, like more relaxed or more of this, right?
Well, there's no need for that.
Maybe they need our minds to stay in a certain state.
So they only allow certain music with certain chords or patterns to play on the radio to keep our minds going in this direction.
jamie vernon
No, Ralph.
joe rogan
No.
See, you would have to have a grand mastermind who's in.
charge of manipulating everybody all the time maybe it's you be able to come up with something like that i want you to tell uh i don't know man i had i think i wanted something here i think you definitely not and you're gonna waste your time pursuing this i know a lot of musicians none of them are being contracted to make certain frequencies that alter the way you behave you think so jamie there's something to what he's saying i'm gonna be honest with you because there's a video going around i'll play it for you right now What is it?
ralph barbosa
I might be the next Terrence Howard.
jamie vernon
It's not, I mean, it's similar.
So this is Charlie Pooth.
He's describing what happens after songs.
are like this is in the mixing process?
joe rogan
Okay.
charlie puth
tired and emotional.
It's because the song is pitched up with a tape machine.
Back in the day, they called this sweetening the audio.
unidentified
Here's what it originally sounded like.
*Music*
charlie puth
Same thing with this song.
That is sped up, and this is what it originally sounded like.
unidentified
Everybody was singing my song.
charlie puth
You might be thinking to yourself right now, Charlie, why do people do this?
I will tell you, viewer, when you speed music or tones up and down, it's scientifically proven to make you feel different emotionally.
This is the tone all music is basically tuned to.
But when you pitch it higher, it brings you to the love frequency known as 528 Hertz.
So when people pitch their music up, it brings the listener closer to that feeling.
I think music science is really cool.
Listen to this song.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Well, that's interesting, but that's a little bit different.
That's just like making you feel good.
ralph barbosa
That is exactly what I was trying to say.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That just makes you feel good.
Yeah.
There's definitely that, man.
Music is like a drug.
It's a pretty dope drug.
ralph barbosa
Look, you're proving my point even now.
joe rogan
No, but I mean, like it's an inspir one of the reasons why I like to mix my drugs when it comes to music.
Like my Spotify playlist, it's all scattered.
It's a bunch of different stuff.
Like you might get like Nas and then right after Nas is Leonard Skynyrd.
ralph barbosa
I'm the same way.
But I feel like it's important to listen to different types of music.
Not only because it's cool to like see different people's talent, like from different.
Like I think I I can appreciate talent from like any genre.
So like if you hear like a like a Leonard Skynyrd song, you're like holy shit.
That guy sang the shit out of that note.
Maybe I don't relate to what he''s saying, but like, that was fucking dope.
But I also think it helps you communicate and like connect with people from like different cultures, different backgrounds.
Yeah, for sure.
Because I listen to a lot of like, a lot of rap, a lot of Spanish music, but then I listen to a lot of country as well.
But like old country, new country, I feel sometimes I feel like a lot of what comes up, maybe because I don't dig into it too much, but like a lot of what comes up on my algorithm is very like modern, like pop, like more poppy, like right.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
I know what you mean.
Yeah.
But manufactured feels like Yeah.
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
But I do like to listen to like different types of shit, because it's like, I want to know.
Not that I necessarily want to know, but it helps me know and understand what, like, someone from a totally different part of the country might like experience or like enjoy or, like, oh yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
Well, that's a cool thing about traveling, right?
That's one thing that comics have that really, I think, helps us get a better understanding of the whole country is you, you're on the road a lot.
So you're traveling to Ohio one weekend, then you're in Florida, then you're in Michigan, and when you do that, you get a better sense like, oh, this country varies a lot.
There's a lot of different kinds of ways to live out there.
ralph barbosa
There's also, um, one thing that was crazy to me when I started traveling is how similar a lot of people also are.
joe rogan
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
Sometimes you run into people that are like very proud of the city they're from and like their neighborhood.
unidentified
Yeah.
ralph barbosa
And, and, you know, they'll fight for it, they'll fucking die for it.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
ralph barbosa
And then you go to another city and that's like the same person, just a different title.
joe rogan
Yeah.
People get real tribal.
They're real tribal for their stupid ass town.
Okay, Ralph Barbosa.
Tell everyone where you're going to be.
You got a website they can go to find you with your seven tours.
Seven date tour.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, sir.
Catch me in one of the seven C's at, oh, my website is called barbosacomedy.com.com.
You can see any shows I've got coming up.
My Instagram, RalphBarbosaZero3, Automotive Channel, Formula Bean, if you want to see.
joe rogan
Yeah, definitely.
I'm going to check that out.
I'm going to subscribe to that, for sure.
ralph barbosa
Couple Beans, just street racing sleep.
joe rogan
How many videos do you have up there?
ralph barbosa
We got quite a few.
So it was my buddy's YouTube channel before we converted it to like our channel.
So it's just like tons of car footage on there.
As far as, since we became a channel, it might be like, ten, fifteen videos.
joe rogan
Nice.
Yeah.
What are you doing tonight?
ralph barbosa
Taking it off to New York.
joe rogan
What time do you leave?
ralph barbosa
Like, they're dropping me off at the airport right after this.
joe rogan
I was going to invite you to come do the show at the Motothership.
There it is, Ralph Barbosa, Planet Bossa.
ralph barbosa
Yeah.
joe rogan
Hularious stand-up comedy.
I like that Hulu's doing this.
Hulu did a lot of special this year.
It's great.
ralph barbosa
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Great, it's awesome.
ralph barbosa
I was a little nervous about like switching over, because I did my last one with Netflix and then this one with Hulu.
joe rogan
I love Hulu.
I have Hulu.
Everybody has Hulu.
ralph barbosa
I thought, why not try it?
joe rogan
Why not?
I'm very happy they're doing that.
It's nice.
It's nice that there's more options for comics.
ralph barbosa
And Hulu also, thank you for the money that they gave us.
Hell yeah.
unidentified
Nice.
joe rogan
Nice.
All right, Ralph Barbosa.
Appreciate you, brother.
Thank you for coming in.
ralph barbosa
Thanks for having me.
joe rogan
Always fun to have you.
unidentified
All right.
joe rogan
Bye, everybody.
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