Graham Linehan recounts his eight-year legal battle in the UK after a trans activist falsely accused him of harassment, costing him £200,000 to withdraw from a Father Ted musical and driving his divorce. He exposes WPATH’s ties to controversial archives like the Eunuch Files, irreversible surgeries for minors (e.g., mastectomies), and media complicity in misinformation—like The Guardian’s smear campaigns or Wikipedia’s activist-driven edits. Cases like a New Zealand girl’s death post-transition and the Tavistock Clinic’s alleged harm to children underscore systemic failures, while AI and tech censorship further silence dissent. Linehan warns of ideological bubbles replacing critical debate, comparing today’s trans movement to past gay rights groups that distanced themselves from extremism—yet now risks normalizing medical risks and cultural exploitation. [Automatically generated summary]
I was riding around Scottsdale feeling great and free because I'd never ridden a scooter before because I always thought that we called them scooter nonces in the UK.
And because there was no one around to see me, I just thought, oh, this is great.
In the job that you didn't want was to work in the dye pits because, guys, what they'd have to do is they'd have to get into these like human-sized pits filled with dye and wrestle the dye into material.
I was watching this video today where this young lady was complaining about her job and that it just consumes her entire life and she doesn't want to do it anymore.
And then, like, people were complaining in the comments that she's lazy.
I'm like, no, like, she hates her job.
It's entirely reasonable.
It's a little kind of crazy that everybody wants to declare to the whole world what their personal issues are about their op.
I mean, social media has made it very weird that all these people just get attention for something that you essentially used to just talk about with friends.
Yeah, Graham, you have an well, I found out about you from our talent coordinator at the mothership, who's my good friend Adam Egot, who loves you to death.
And he loves your work.
He loves the shows that you've created.
He's a huge, huge fan.
So this was all because of Adam.
This all came about because of Adam.
Sure.
And then I heard the story.
I was like, oh my God, they did that guy dirty.
They did him so dirty.
And it was one of the examples.
Why don't you tell the story of how it went down so everybody could kind of get it from your words, which I'm sure would be better than me.
I'm 57 now, and I spent most of my life forming a sort of a sort of, what's the word?
You know, what's that word?
Self-deprecating, humorous personality.
So I would come out and I would make fun of myself.
I can't do that anymore because my situation is so bizarre that anything I say that's self-deprecating will just get reported as truth and all sorts of things.
I started writing journalism in Ireland when I was very young, about 19 years old.
And I was hanging around with some funny people.
We were writing sketches and stuff like that.
So I went over to UK and I got in.
I was just very, we sent our sketches to producers.
We worked very hard to get on TV.
That succeeded.
And then I kept having early success.
I had a sitcom called Father Ted, which was about some Irish priests who were so bad that they'd been banished to a tiny island in the middle of nowhere.
That was a huge success, probably my biggest success.
I think also when you think of what AI is going to do to voice lines, like if you look at a game like Grand Theft Auto, now you're going to be able to have generative dialogue from the characters, you know?
Well, you're also going to have porn where you have any woman that you want that you desire in your life.
Like you could take photos of someone that you know and turn them into someone who's like so attracted to you and just can't wait to have sex with you.
I mean, that's the real comparison culture because they're comparing themselves to the Kardashians and people with massive amounts of plastic surgery and filters.
But now I saw a guy yesterday who said we're about to enter a 2007 moment.
In other words, the invention of the iPhone.
We're about to have another big change.
And we haven't even spoken about the last one.
I mean, that's part of my thing.
Let me go back at the story.
But basically, I was like a very successful comedy writer, probably about as successful as a non-on-screen comedy writer can get in the UK.
I won something like six BAFTAs, I think, in the end, five or six BAFTAs.
I'm not being stupid.
I just genuinely can't remember.
And one of them they didn't give me the plaque for.
I must tell you that at some point.
But I won them, got a standing ovation at the comedy awards, and then the moment I started talking about women's rights, they took everything, absolutely everything away from me.
And this is a version, this is why it gets real weird.
You know, because as soon as you say there are some men that are going to use this, as soon as you say there are some men who we've known forever have been sexual deviants and perverts and psychotic creeps.
I don't want to restrict you, but as soon as you start allowing men in dresses to get into women's spaces and you frame it that way, you say this is about women's rights, then it's chaos.
And there's no rational conversation when it should be totally rational.
With those factors, knowing that some men are creeps, knowing that women are more vulnerable, and you're going to allow these potential creeps to have carte blanche and just go into the women's spaces.
The screaming at me and the calling me a Nazi makes me think I'm over the target.
You obviously know more about it than me, but like I think that when they tried to get you for COVID, I actually think that that was sort of left over from you interviewing Megan Murphy and Abigail Schreier.
I think they really hated that you were giving them a platform.
Because when you think of it, no one else did.
No one else did.
If you look back at Megan Murphy and Abigail Schreier's appearances, and Abigail Schreier wrote the most important book about transitioning, the transitioning of young women, irreversible damage.
When real issues come up, when there's a real ideological debate going on, like, hey, what is actually really going on?
That's when things get the most hostile.
Because when you can't really defend your position logically, then you start using pejoratives and turning everyone into Nazis and everyone into fascists.
And you start really fucking the argument up in a way that, like, if you're a normal person and I'm talking to you, well, I'm going to choose to not talk to you anymore because you're not rational.
I don't like talking to Mike.
He goes crazy and calls me a Nazi every time we disagree with something.
That is logically something that you should be debating, whether or not children have the ability to make these decisions at an early age and whether or not there's some kind of social contagion going on.
And I mean, like, you know, this, I don't want to go too strong too early, but let me take an example, right?
The word trans people, I see people using it all the time as if it has, as if it is a stable category.
And it's not.
It's not a stable category at all.
You know, when most people hear the word trans people, they think transsexuals.
But the number, according to, I think, a 2016 study, the number of men who identify as trans and aren't having any surgery at all is something like 90%, right?
So you have a whole whole group of people out there who are transvestites, okay?
To give them the actual word that refers to their condition.
The urinary leash was what was called when the suffragettes, before the suffragettes won the right to vote and single-sex spaces and so on, the women of a household were not able to go too far from their house because there were no public toilets.
And all the public toilets, there were public toilets, but they were mixed.
So men would be in them and they couldn't go into the toilets with the men.
And now we have some, we have members of this so-called civil rights group who are basically just trying to bring back the urinary leash, you know?
So it's not safe for women to go into a space because they genuinely don't know if they'll share the space with a man.
So, you know, it's anyway, one of the problems with this fight is there's so many aspects to it that it's really, I've been fighting it for eight years.
My original offense was, I think, sharing a piece by a feminist named Heather Brunskill Evans that said exactly what you said just at the beginning, you know, a few minutes ago, where you said, yeah, people have things going on in their head.
They need to be respected.
They need to be helped.
And then someone wrote back immediately.
I was actually getting surgery for cancer at the time.
And someone wrote back and said, I wish the cancer had won.
And this was like sharing a very, very mild piece that just basically said, women deserve rights.
Okay.
So that reaction, I thought, holy cow.
And then, but the strangest thing was all my friends and colleagues.
They just, they just completely ignored what was happening to me.
Not a single person stood up to say, hey, I know Graham Linehan.
He's not a bigot.
And I'd made lots of these people famous, you know?
Not a single person stood up for me.
And the next thing that happened was that a sex offender, and we found this out later, but a sex offender and kind of serial litigant in the UK, he reported me to the police, sued me on the same weekend.
And the police came to my home, or no, they phoned me that time.
And since then, I've been basically, the police just visit every so often on the orders of these.
And this guy was a sexy, he sexually assaulted a 14-year-old boy, you know.
And basically, the police in the UK are working for these men, you know?
So one of the things I did was I went on an app called Her Social, which is a lesbian app.
And I did it to show that men were joining these apps and they weren't, they would, you know, some of them would put on a bit of lipstick, but most of them were just, they would look like you and me, you know?
And when there's a very forceful narrative that's being pushed, like, you know, what Elon likes to call the woke mind virus, like whatever that thing is that has like these very clear rules that you must follow.
It's a religion that's terrifying because the consequences of not obeying are you get ostracized and you get attacked and you get de-platformed and de-banked and de this and de that and labeled a bigot.
So how did so many people go along with it where you can't?
How is it that you can make this reasonable argument on this podcast about why you think this is the case and what you think is going on, and this is why you stood up against it.
And why can't there be some sort of a logical debate about this?
Like, how is this one issue so insanely third rail where you can't even touch it?
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One of the main reasons is that the language of this movement is so deliberately obscure.
Like they did a poll recently.
They found out that when people were talking about trans women in women's sports, a lot of people, I think the majority of people, I'm not sure what the percentages were, but the majority of people thought they were talking about trans-identified females in women's sports.
And in fact, even now, when you say trans women, some people are thinking trans men.
You know, and I have to sometimes tell people the way to do it is think trans means opposite.
So if it's trans man, it's a woman.
If it's a trans woman, it's a man.
That's all it means.
It just means opposite.
And so this language, which is constantly being used, if you see a press report about a, you know, this happens all the time.
You see a press report that says something like, I saw a great one that said something like, woman takes cocaine and then kills Alsatian or something like this.
And it's only that we know, it's only that me and the feminists who are fighting this know that it's a man that tell me it's a man.
Every other person reading that newspaper thinks they're talking about a woman.
It's the press are, I mean, really, when you say, why isn't it possible to be talked about?
It's because the press are helping confuse people.
You know, the press are actually aiding.
Like, if you get a pedophile and you report him to be a man, oh, sorry, a woman when he's actually a man, then it's even harder to step back and go, we shouldn't have done that because you've actually already committed a terrible sin against journalism.
But some of them don't even have any, for the first, in the first place, a lot of, like one of the things that happened when I was started talking about this is I started noticing, like, there was a magazine in England called Total Film, and that was calling me a bigot.
And all these different, and my old magazines that I worked for were calling me a bigot.
And then you see photographs of the guys, and it's always, you know, they've always got black fingernail polish, and they think they're a new kind of human.
That's one of the earliest kind of smears against the feminists fighting this, who are all in the UK, by the way, left-wing women, classic left-wing environmental, environmentalists.
And they've been, and you know, but they've been smeared as right-wing bigots, you know, even though they spent all their life fighting things like section 20.
And being kicked off of Twitter allowed people to further lie about me online until my reputation was completely destroyed.
So I went in for a meeting with the people who produced the Father Ted musical, who also produced Father Ted back in the day.
And I walked in and everybody, I saw someone I worked with for years, a runner who had grown up with me as I worked with them on different productions, just looking at me like Elliot Gould.
So I know the internet was a part of this, but how did it get so kooky?
How did it get so kooky where people are willing to put women in these vulnerable positions because they don't want to offend this entirely tiny, very, very vocal part of the world?
You know, it's one of the things that happens is when you take testosterone, your ovaries confuse to, I'm not sure, some other part of your internal organs, and that means it becomes infected.
And that means, and that's why you see so many trans men having to have hysterectomies, you know?
If a woman has her breasts removed and then goes on to have a child later on in life, if they're lucky enough not to have been sterilized by the drugs, if they have a child later on in life, when the child cries, the tissue in their breasts will ache because there's always tissue left behind after those operations.
And it will ache because it wants to feed the baby, but they can't.
No one tells these kids that.
The younger men who are, I met a detransitioner, his name's Richie Tulip.
He told me that there are, oh, actually, no, let me stick to trans men for a moment.
You know, the only time that trans men get famous in the same way that trans women do is if they get pregnant, right?
And then it's like they're on the cover of Time magazine or something.
In fact, it's very dangerous for women on testosterone to get pregnant because they could pass on.
I mean, this is how horrible it is.
There was a study in the UK published by a gender sociologist, I think she is, who works for Sheffield University.
And the study said, this is, what's her name?
Sally Hines.
And the study said that even if there's a risk of deformity to a baby, a trans-identified woman should continue taking testosterone because there was too much of an emphasis on babies born with normative bodies.
WPATH is meant to be the world leader for trans healthcare.
It is where the whole world gets their orders for how to treat trans people.
Okay.
It is.
This is going to blow you away, Joe.
So there's a woman named Mia Hughes, and she published a piece called, she published a study called the WPATH Files.
It hasn't been reported on anywhere.
No one is talking about it.
It came and went without causing barely a ripple.
She found out that WPATH, which briefly tried to make eunuch a gender identity, right?
She found out that they were linking to a website called the Eunuch Archives.
And the Eunuch Archives is mainly a repository of about, I don't know, I have it written down, but it's something like 8,000 short stories, something like that.
And they're just pornography about people cutting their dicks off.
WPATH linked to this site.
Not only that, but something like 40% of the stories are tagged minor.
Okay?
So these are the people who are cutting off young men's dicks and they are sharing erotic pornography about cutting off young men's dicks.
And Jamie has all the links.
This may sound that I'm pulling it out of my ass because it's so hard to believe.
But this is almost worse than Jimmy Saville because there's more kids being hurt, you know?
And the UK is addicted to ignoring scandals and to hurting, you know, to allowing children to be hurt.
You know, what's his name?
Kier Starmer, the UK prime minister.
When he came in, he said he would end the culture wars.
He hasn't ended the culture wars.
He hides from them while ordinary people still have to fight in court.
People like me and various women who are fighting this nonsense.
He's an absolute coward on this issue.
But the thing about the WPATH files is WPATH, this place that's sharing pedophilic castration pornography, is the world leader on trans healthcare.
Okay?
They're the ones that are bowed to on everything in this.
And they're the reason why doctors all over the world are giving these protocols to kids because there's a thing called the chain of trust that Mia Hughes writes about, which is an ear, nose, and throat specialist has to believe that other doctors know what they're doing.
And they have to believe that the head of any particular discipline knows what they're saying.
And what's happening with WPATH is they're issuing all this stuff.
And it's all just crazy nonsense.
One thing in the WPATH files they found out was there was one letter from, I think, one of the doctors associated with WPATH.
And she said, I've only ever refused a transition diagnosis once.
And that's when the patient was having a...
That's because the patient had a psychotic episode in my office.
That's the only reason she didn't say, yeah, you're a man, because she was having a psychotic episode.
They tried to transition a homeless guy.
So when you think about it, he has the surgery, and the next day he's back in the streets with a wound that needs to be clean.
Like one of the people who is involved in this, I can't, oh, her name always jumps out of my head.
I can't remember her name, but she suggested that a baby who fiddles with the buttons on their baby grow is trans because they're indicating they don't like this baby grow.
This was like 80s, I think, in the middle of kind of Midwestern America.
There was a lot of places that suddenly started believing in cults that were worshiping the devil and having sex with children.
And the thing about it was it was before the internet.
So it didn't actually spread that far.
You know, there were a few towns where it broke out.
Do you remember that three kids who were in jail for years for something they didn't do?
And they nearly tried to kill them.
And it was found out.
And they were just goths, you know, the stuff like that.
And it didn't break out of Middle America because the internet wasn't there.
But I have to think now, if you had, if the satanic scandal broke out again, you would certainly know about it because you would be all over the world.
It was something to do, she was something to do with a military base.
I wish I could remember her name.
She, she, she, as I say, she did this thing about, um, uh, babies popping their mini, they're popping the buttons on their thing, you know, which is, and this is a crazy person.
But then there's a lot of, you know, really lovely kids who are grown up and have been told, like boys who've been told that boys are evil and they feel guilty because they think of women in a sexual way.
And, you know, there's stories of boys being castrated because of that.
You know, they do not want to associate themselves with what they see as male toxicity, you know?
So anyway, oh yeah.
And then there's other, there's other things.
There's like, you know, people like that grifter who said that about the baby grows.
There's all sorts.
It's like a gold rush.
If you create a, if you create a completely senseless system that has no rules, that anyone can be a woman if they put on a dress and it's just complete free-for-all.
If you're part of that clan, you get to be very aggressive about defending these ideas to the point where you're allowed to hold up pistols and say we shoot turfs.
I saw some of that stuff going on in the UK where it's really apparently very hard to get a gun.
But my point is, like, if that person did identify as a man and decided to start using the women's room because of their biological sex, that would freak some women out.
All I've seen, I have seen a forum discussion between two guys who were just kind of sniggering about it amongst themselves.
Oh, my God.
It's really, it's really, I mean, you know, these kids, one of the things that gets me about this is that these kids are the kids that I was.
You know, they're the strange, not well adjusted, spend a lot of time reading, maybe, sensitive.
A lot of girls who are caught up in this are the most emphatic, imaginative girls, you know.
And it appeals to them for some reason, you know?
It appeals to them, maybe because it feels so they see men as just gliding through life in a way that they can't.
And also, they see pornography from when they're kids.
And the women in pornography are treated appallingly.
And so they are saying, nope, I don't want any of that.
And they think they can just, but what they're really doing is they're stepping into a world where they have a four times higher chance of having a heart attack if they're taking testosterone than any than normal women.
They are going to die younger.
They're going to lose their ability to have children.
And it's like, what I can never understand is why there don't exist people in the world.
I mean, there are.
They are there.
There's a lot of them there.
But no one on a high level, very few politicians.
Trump, in fact, is probably the only one who will say, hang on a sec, this is insane nonsense.
We've got to protect these kids.
Let's cut it out.
Instead, there's this constant like, oh, yeah, but you know, we have like a funny thing happened when the Supreme Court recently, I mean, this took four women Scotland, a group in Scotland, years to get through the court.
But finally, the Supreme Court said, no, sex means biological sex.
You know, it doesn't, you know, Scotland.
In law, yeah, in law, sex means biological sex.
And all these places have come back saying it's the most, you know, we don't know how we're going to implement this.
It's all very confusing.
And they're really dragging their heels with it, you know?
It's like, you were able to do it for 100 years.
How difficult is it to write ladies and gents and put it up in a sign and enforce it?
Put it up on a door and enforce it.
They are absolutely hypnotized by this.
And they're fully convinced that it is just like gay rights.
And that they have to be careful because, I mean, one of the things that's happened, for instance, with the police in the UK is that a few years ago, there was a young kid murdered by some racists, black kid murdered by some racists.
And I think it was called the McPherson Report came out that described the police as institutionally racist.
And they probably were in that way that all cops were racist at one point, you know, or at least, you know, very much not right on.
But anyway, it was a big scandal.
It had this convulsive effect on the police.
And then the police just flipped and they started putting on pride colors on their faces and marching with pride.
And I genuinely think that there are police who are complicit.
In fact, I sent a video, maybe Jamie can pull it up, but I sent a video of the police actually walking away from a group of kettled women.
Trans activists had kettled them in this small space.
Their back was up against a railing and there was a huge crowd of Antifa type guys screaming at these women and about four or five police keeping the Antifa guys from the women.
And I arrived and I saw them walking away.
I saw about six, seven policemen walking away from it, you know?
I was like, what the hell's going on?
So I think British police are using trans activists to scare women out of fighting for their rights because they know that if women gather to meet trans activists will definitely be there to hurt them or harass them.
No, because they've been advised for years by Stonewall, which was the big gay rights organization in the UK, that these women are bigots and that these women are actually far right.
And the police believe this stuff because they've had it as training for years.
Have you ever heard of anything that's more homophobic than a lesbian with a penis?
It's homophobia.
That's all it is.
And for some reason, people have just been held in this kind of, you know, tractor beam where they're just kind of like going along with it and they're not questioning it.
I guess they're worried that what happened to people like me will happen to them.
But there's increasingly less of an excuse now.
I mean, John Oliver and Jon Stewart both said on their programs that puberty blockers were reversible.
The thing is, we're grappling with things that we shouldn't be grappling with when we're actually on the cusp of what seems to me with AI to be a huge moment in human evolution, right?
We're about to move into, like, I always think of it like the thing in Alien that Sigourney Weaver with the JCB.
And we have to deal with the reality of life if we're going to take this major evolutionary step as human beings with AI.
Because if we continue ignoring the insanity that the internet has brought about with this movement, we're just going to waltz right into the next one.
If we don't take time to say, okay, what just happened?
Why did it happen?
How can we make sure it doesn't happen again?
Because it seems to me now that with the trans thing, the human race with the internet is hugely vulnerable to these kinds of what you might call them sense-destroying viruses, whatever you might call them.
I don't know, there should be a word for what the trans movement is, but I think we're so vulnerable to it that we have to start developing antibodies, you know?
And people were terrified because your life was in danger.
So you saw the most vile reactions from older populations who were calling for people to be quarantined, round up in camps, take away their livelihood, take away their children.
You were hearing it from these old, terrified people with fragile health.
And they all got really violent about it online.
They got really, really extreme in their positions on this.
And, you know, and it was pushed by these multimedia corporations, these huge news corporations.
It was pushed by them.
It was all nonsense and propaganda, including Rolling Stone and CNN.
Rolling Stone had a whole article that was 100% bullshit about people who were waiting in line at the emergency room for gunshot wounds because there were so many people that were getting treated for horse dewormer because they took too much ivermectin.
Wow.
Total fabrication with a stock photograph of people waiting in line in August in Oklahoma.
This is supposed to be taking place.
A stock photograph of people wearing winter coats outside in line because they're waiting for the fucking flu shot.
I mean, when the Bible, when the printing press appeared, there was 100 years of chaos as all these sects and everyone who had a crazy idea about the Bible that they'd had themselves.
Oh, on the seventh page, it says this on line seven.
And that would become a religion, right?
And then for 100 years, these religions were fighting it out.
There were pogroms and massacres, and Protestantism was formed because of it.
But you also hear, you know, just things designed to shut down the conversation, you know?
And you see them over and over again.
They're repeated over and over again.
Whatever you think of the Gaza situation at the moment, I noticed that it's the same thing, genocide, over and over and over again.
In every tweet, they mention the word genocide, you know?
And I don't happen to think it is, but like by the end of it, if you were to stand up against that and say something against that, it's a difficult thing because you suddenly look like you're against genocide.
Like, when you're starving people, when you're bombing indiscriminately, when you've destroyed most of the buildings, when you've killed who knows how many tens of thousands of women and children.
I agree with Coleman Hughes, I think, who was on your show, where he says that, you know, Hamas, they've built like a huge network of tunnels underneath people's houses, and They put their headquarters in civilian buildings.
It's a form of guerrilla warfare that I don't think should be allowed to continue.
It's so scary when things like that happen to people because, you know, but Clint, he had this one film to me that is like the answer to the spaghetti westerns.
But those books, those Lonesome Books, the Lonesome Book series by Larry McMurtry, I watched every Western differently after that because I suddenly realized what these people, how brave these settlers were.
Oh, they were crazy.
And also, he writes about Indians and Native Americans brilliantly, just as well as he writes about everyone else, you know?
But, you know, I remember I even kind of was worried about you in the early days.
Like, I used to be a bit of a left-wing twat myself.
You know, I famous, one of the most famous things I did was, do you remember the saluting pug guy who got his, yeah, well, I kind of joined in on all that, and I'm deeply ashamed of it.
And I actually apologized to him at his, I did a video and apologized at a roast that he did.
Which is a crazy thing to tell people in the age of information, whether you have more access to reality and truth than ever historically, by far, with human beings.
And you see the kind of mainstream news people in the UK, there's people who have podcasts like Alastair Campbell and Rory Stewart and these ex-newsreaders around this program called the News Agents.
And their job is to deliberately not know things, right?
It's almost like, I mean, I think you got the same thing over here with CNN and stuff.
You know, their job is to just express confusion about it.
Why is everything so...
And they cannot actually address the issues because if they address the issues, they will start saying things that will get them cancelled.
And so what you have is a kind of a chewing gum for information in the UK.
It's not real.
It's not actually information.
It's just these middle-class people, very privileged people, gabbing away.
They all think there's no problem with men in women's spaces because they will never have to use a shelter.
They will never have to use a rape crisis center, God willing.
So these people who actually are affected by these issues are the last thing on their minds.
They are very comfortable middle-class people who do not give a damn about anyone outside of their experience.
Like the thing I was saying earlier about the chain of trust among doctors, the W path breaking the chain of trust to such an extent has affected the whole world.
So now we can't trust our newsreaders to tell us the truth.
They're telling us a man attacked a man attacking people when it was really a woman.
We can't trust doctors because doctors are telling these incredibly damaging things to kids.
Kid comes in with depression.
Oh, you're trans.
I'll tell you, here's a story.
I've got this.
This is a story that really illustrates the problem.
And it's another problem with the press as well.
But in New Zealand, there was a young girl.
She was 16 years old, I believe.
And she was autistic and anorexic.
And her parents were first-generation, I think, immigrants and had no idea what was going on, right?
She was suddenly saying she was a boy.
They didn't know what she was talking about, you know?
And so they didn't go with it.
And she left home, right?
Encouraged by what they call a glitter family, which is a bunch of gay or trans-identified people who love bomb her and tell her that she needs to get rid of her parents because her parents are bigots.
So she moves in with this glitter family.
They can't deal with her because she's autistic.
So within a couple of months, she's gone from the house.
There's nowhere to live.
Can't go back home.
Has told her parents she's bigoted.
They're bigots.
The New Zealand government, they meet her.
They don't diagnose her as autistic or as anorexic.
They diagnose her as trans.
They give her a hotel room.
She died in that hotel room.
She starved to death in the hotel room because the New Zealand government called her trans and forgot about a young, autistic, anorexic 16-year-old girl.
And at the end of it, she was just about making up with her parents.
And she phoned her mother.
Oh, sorry, excuse me.
That would go down well.
She phoned her mother a few times and they were just about to make it up.
And then she got a call from police.
And she found out that the daughter had been in the hotel right around the corner from where she lived.
So she left the house, went up into the room and took a photograph of her daughter dead.
No one would tell the story.
It's taken a year and a half to get this story out in New Zealand media because no one cares.
No one cares.
It's not that no one cares.
It's a trans story.
So you just can't get it out.
And in every country, there's always one or two activists who do everything they can, like the journalist or the people involved with that story were attacked by, I can't remember his name, but there's an activist over there, a very vicious activist, as there is in Ireland and the UK and a few different places.
And they're always the parents of trans-identified kids.
You know, the worst people, the worst activists, the most the most violent activists, Helen Joyce is a brilliant Irish writer, and she pointed this out.
They have done the worst thing that you can do to your kids.
They have confused their kids, and sometimes they've actually encouraged their kids to take these hormones and to go through these procedures, to be castrated, to have a double mastectomy.
They will never be able to accept what they've done to their kids.
And I know there was one Irish activist who's been planning on transing his kid for at least 12 years, right?
And now the kid is grown up.
Of course, the kid thinks they're a man because they've lived with this homophobic parent, you know, who basically doesn't like seeing gender non-conforming behaviors in their child.
So they say, oh, he's a woman or she's a man, you know?
So these are the people who are, you know, that guy in New Zealand, even when the story came out, he still tried to attack the people telling it.
Still, he put me in some sort of conspiracy of creating a bigger deal about it than it needed to be.
A young girl who died in a hotel room because they called her trans and just forgot about her.
You know, like, how did it take a year and a half for New Zealand media to report on that in a country that small?
Well, I think the dam is breaking because I think there's been a lot of people that are fed up and they realize that there's irreversible harm being caused to people that are being tricked.
These stories of the detransitioners and them being attacked online for telling their story, which is true.
And whenever I write the word detransitioners on my iPhone, which I have cause to do quite a lot, it underlines it in red because it will not recognize the word exists.
I wonder which, is it the actual but my point, actually, sorry, the reason I bring it up is because a lot of tech guys are tech because they're autistic, right?
And a lot of coders are, you know, you spend all your time writing in the dark and coding stuff.
Your interests go that way.
So the trans thing has come up a lot as well from kind of manipulation by these tech guys who are a lot of whom identify as trans.
So we're living in a world now where, like the underline D-transitioner, they are controlling what we think is normal and what we think is unusual.
So to everyone now, we write down D-transitioner, you doubt yourself because there's a red line underneath it.
Oh, it mustn't be a real word, or it's D and then a space maybe or whatever.
But no, you're right.
It's just these fucking tech guys are trying to confuse you, keep you unbalanced, you know, so that you can't discuss this issue.
But I think reluctantly, because there's people that are in control of the system right now that are extracting enormous amounts of money, you know, with just fill in the blank of all the different special interests that have a hand in how much money gets distributed this way and that way.
There's so much of that that really fuels the decisions that are being made in this country.
It's not really the will of the people.
It's not really trying to make America great.
And I mean, yeah, it is.
But also, if you really wanted to do it, you wouldn't do it this way.
If that's what your main goal was, if your main goal was to make money and give the illusion that we're fixing all the problems that America has while fixing some of them, well, then that's what you're doing.
Because that's what your goal seems to be.
Your goal is not the real goal should be like letting AI have a look at everything.
Like, what's the best way to distribute all these resources?
And is it really fair that this corporation gets to pollute the fucking ocean?
Like, let's figure out what's the right way to do this.
You know, the reason Kamala didn't come on is simply because there's a certain breed of politician who are, I think, dying out, who are the kind of politicians that couldn't survive three hours talking to you, you know?
And they, I don't think they've long left because things like this are the way that people get their information now.
So, you know, you get these like, and it's the only reason why people, oh, I've got a good thing to tell you about AOC as well.
It's the only reason why people like AOC and people like this are able to continue spouting nonsense is because they don't go on shows like this.
Here's an interesting thing.
At one point in my, I still haven't told you half the things I was going to tell you, but at one point, a streamer did a, I managed to take some money, I managed to stop the charity Mermaids from getting funding from the National Lottery in the UK.
Mermaids used to be a good organization.
Dysphoria was very rare and they treated it as you should, right?
With things like affirmation as a final step, not the first step, okay?
And Susie Green took over at Mermaids, transformed it into a mental institution.
And she took her son to Thailand on his 16th birthday to have him castrated.
You know?
And now, and this kid has been brought up since they were four, five years old because there's a famous TED talk where there's a hilarious, you got to see this TED Talk.
She does this TED Talk and she's got the, you know, the TED Talk thing.
So she looks like an expert.
And she's doing the hand movements like they all do in TED Talks, right?
So you think this is someone who knows what they're talking about.
And she just admits that the kid liked playing with girls' toys.
The husband didn't like it.
She decided it was really a girl.
And that's the TED Talk.
There's no explanation of what trans is or anything like that.
One person at the Tavistock, one doctor at the Tavistock said that she was sure one of the parents who came in was a paedophile and wanted to keep their child in a state of arrested development so they could abuse them longer.
Did you see what Andy Null's investigation into Trantifa, this gang of...
Actually, Trantifa is a more general term, but there was an actual gang of trans-identified guys and women.
And they went to this guy's...
This guy was...
I think he was an old rancher or something.
And they blinded him in an attack, you know.
And then he went out to, he was going to testify at the trial, and they killed him.
They killed him.
So what we have with this group, I can't remember what they were called.
I wish I could remember.
But what we have with this group is because no one has been doing their jobs, including the press and not talking about this properly, an entirely fake terrorist group that thinks it's a civil rights movement has formed out of nothing.
These are middle-class white guys, right?
Who normally would be, I don't know, going to gigs and stuff.
And this kind of violent civil rights group has formed for nothing.
It's not defending anyone.
It's not helping anyone.
It's simply there to get men into women's toilets, you know?
And it just, we've created it.
And now we have to deal with it.
You know, this kind of mirage of a civil rights movement, you know?
Sorry, I'm not really being very clear because there's so much disagreement.
One of the things that used to happen to me was I would talk about very specific people.
Like, for instance, there was someone who worked in Stonewall who helped create their trans policies named Amy Challoner.
And Challoner, it was discovered that Challoner was the son of a bloke who had tied up and tortured a little girl in the attic of their home.
He still continued to work with Stonewall.
He continued to use his father as an election agent.
And when he was reprimanded, they said he had absolutely no understanding of what was wrong, of what he had done wrong and so on.
This person was central to the trans movement in the UK.
And there's so many examples of this.
There's a guy called Peter Thatchell.
Peter Thatchell has a long history of literally promoting pedophilia as something that's sometimes enjoyed by the child.
That's how he puts it.
The famous letter he wrote to The Guardian where he said, I have many friends who say they have experiences that ranged from nine to 13, where they had entirely good outcomes with, what are you talking about?
Nine, nine is rape.
13 is rape.
What are you talking about?
It doesn't matter if they say they had good experiences.
They were groomed, you know?
And this man is a fairly significant figure in the UK.
It's no investigation into these writings, no kind of talk about it.
Again, it's just completely ignored.
Because as I say, the UK is addicted to harming children, not talking about it, and only kind of saying, oh, what could have happened years later?
I started harassing women, some form of women, and blah, blah, blah.
And they believe all the stories that have been reshared and reshared about me.
And they just don't know because no, I've never, in the eight years I've been fighting this, the only time I appeared on like mainstream TV to talk about these issues, and I sent this to Jamie, was when they ambushed me and they just berated me for five minutes.
Journalist named Sarah Smith did the interview, who's now the head of BBC in North America, I should say.
And how did she berate you?
What'd she say?
Well, I was saying she just simply didn't believe it.
The funny thing was, some of her journalists were working on a story about the Tavistock at the time.
And I was just saying, you know, kids are being hurt.
Kids are being hurt in these gender clinics and it should be stopped, you know?
And she was like, you're seriously saying that doctors are blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
And she just couldn't.
It was so weird.
She just couldn't.
And the stuff I'd known to be true that I'd been studying for years, she just wasn't across it, you know?
So the journalists aren't across it because it's not worth their while to be across it.
And they're actually slowing down the understanding of what this is about, you know, because they approach it so gingerly and they don't offend anyone and don't want to be cancelled.
Oh, and I should say, also, you know, while I was going through COVID and canceled, I did write this book unpaid because I was promised there'd be a back end.
And then the book came out and all booksellers started hiding the book in bookshops.
So if anyone wants to help out, my book is called Tough Crowd and is available on Amazon.
All these taxi drivers, Pakistani taxi drivers, were abusing kids over 30 years, like local girls, local white girls, doing the most appalling things to them.
And it was just everyone was scared of being a racist.
So they just let it go on.
And it's the same thing with this.
And, you know, I always think when we were talking about Oliver and Stewart earlier, like they said the puberty blockers were reversible about two years ago.
How many kids since then have gone on puberty blockers?
Partly because of what they said, you know?
It's like people have got to realize, you know, Graham Norton saying that about cancer culture, Jon Stewart saying that about puberty blockers.
I've never had anyone accusing me of anything on a set.
I always got on great with all my actors.
I knew all my crew's name.
That was one thing I always developed a skill because I'm terrible with names normally, but I learned every crew member's name.
I've not been in any way controversial until this.
And then the moment I started saying, hey, hang on a sec.
And all of my friends, you know, all the friends who betrayed me, the hat-trick and my friends on the TED musical, all they had to say was, of course women deserve fair sports.
But also, there's people who don't get violent, but they're also in a cult, but they don't realize it.
Because like when I was talking about the chain of trust, right?
If you're a newsreader and you get a piece of copy that says, talks about a newborn baby and uses the word assigned at birth, the sex they were assigned at birth, right?
That's ideological language.
Your sex is not assigned at birth.
Your sex is observed in utero, usually, a few months before birth, okay?
So assigned at birth is ideological language.
So what you have is a lot of people now using the word assigned at birth.
They don't know why.
It's because that was decided to be the correct terminology.
But it's like it's like, you know, we've become hypnotized by appearances to such an extent that, you know, you get a, like every single, there's a very funny thing.
And they're smiling and they look delirious with happiness because this thing they've been bargaining with their parents for for years, they finally got it.
And they've got these terrible looking, you know, wounds over their breasts and so on.
And they're just kind of, you know, they're still out of their mind with the drugs that they've taken to go on them.
I saw a penis that had been made out of the arm of one of these girls, and these self-harming scars were all over the penis.
Oh, God.
You know?
Did you know the first vaginoplasty was carried out by a Nazi?
I got into trouble because I compared, because a magazine in the UK misreported something I'd said and said that I was comparing trans activists to Nazis.
Oh, no, what happened was I think his name was Erwin Gourpart, and he was working in some clinic before the war, and then he went on to join the Luftwaffe, and then he became, he was one of the scientists who tortured people at Belsom.
I went down a rabbit hole one night where I was watching people talk about their dilations, how they have to keep something in there to keep the wound from closing up.
Yeah, but I don't think that's the place that's being that I'm talking about.
Yeah, no, that's Magnus Hirschfeld.
Magnus Hirschfeld.
This is a big thing that trans activists say that there was all this, the Nazis destroyed all this trans history.
It's not true.
They went after him because he was a Jew.
That's why they went after him.
The idea that the first trans class, if you look at the first few pages of Google search results, if you put in anything about trans, you'll get three or four pages of absolute nonsense, you know, of stuff that another thing, Fred Sargent, I'm just remembering all the stuff I wanted to say to you, Fred Sargent, you've got to try and get him on.
He's getting on, and he was like, he's a gay guy who was there at every single night of the Stonewall riots, you know.
And he is still on Twitter.
Still fighting.
He's fucking great.
He went on to, he arranged the first Pride march in New York.
He was highly instrumental in gay rights in the U.S. and in winning civil rights for gay people in the U.S. He's had to watch as these trans activists just make up lies about any transvestite who happened to be in the area.
There's one guy, I've forgotten his name, Marshall Marsha something.
And I'm sure you've heard all these, this thing, again, it's another one of these kind of thought-terminating clichés that, you know, trans people won you your rights and trans people threw the first bricket at Stonewall.
It's bollocks, you know, like the Marsha person they're talking of was purely peripheral character.
And the person who really kicked it off, who has been sort of, is being gradually erased, was a lesbian who's, ah, her name, because again, being erased from my memory because I haven't used it so long.
But it was a lesbian who shouted out to the crowd as she was being forced into a police car, why aren't you guys doing anything?
And that's what kicked off the riot.
And that history and that contribution by lesbians and gay men is being erased by trans rights activists in front of Fred's eyes.
So Fred is on Twitter saying, no, that's not true, just over and over again.
You know, he lived it.
He was right at the center of gay civil rights in the U.S. And in his last few years, he has to watch these idiots pick apart and lie about the true history of gay rights.
But, you know, and what's insane about it is because, you know, people who are sane aren't being interviewed, are losing their jobs, losing their voices, no one can raise the alarm about this, know?
It is extraordinary, but it just shows you how powerful it is, how powerful tribalism really is and how people will justify the most horrific of things if it fits into this narrative that they have decided is a part of their identity.
And a lot of people do that, man.
There's a giant percentage of people that their political identity, which includes that, if you're progressive, it includes all this trans stuff.
Your political identity is more important than your family.
It's more important than anything.
People ostracize family members if they don't agree with the idea of that.
I think she's also a therapist, but her name's Tina Traster.
And she wrote a piece for Psychology Today.
She'd already written some articles in the past for it, and she wrote a new one.
And this is like, you know, established magazine, Psychology Today.
And she wrote a piece about how trans-identified kids were becoming homeless, but they weren't homeless because their parents had rejected them.
They were homeless because they'd rejected their parents.
Their parents had misgendered them one too many times or couldn't really take it seriously or whatever it happens to be.
These kids leave, you know?
These kids leave and they go off and they, you know, they become homeless or whatever it happens to be or they move in with glitter families or whatever it happens to be.
But they lose contact with their parents.
And she said, well, this is usually the choice of the trans-identified child.
The piece was taken off the next night and all her previous pieces were removed because she wrote that.
And it happened in my wonderful woman named Sasha White, who was in publishing and she lost her publishing career and is now, same as me, I had to go back to journalism.
And I should plug it.
I have a website called the Glenner Update.
And my website, along with a few others, Redux and a few others, are the only websites cataloging all this insanity for the last eight years.
We're the only ones doing it.
No one else is covering it.
So I think that when people tally up the score at the end of it, you will be surprised how many people have a similar story to mine.
Like I was canceled, but I had something of a name.
But I know so many people, police women who've lost their jobs, prison wardens, people in all walks of life, ordinary people who are constantly running afoul of these lunatics because they're not being backed up by the adults in the room.
It's like, and I saw Joyce Carol Oates today, who's a writer, suspense writer, and she occasionally dips her toe into this subject just to show how little she knows about it.
And then she doesn't talk about it again for a few months.
But how did someone put it?
They said something like, someone joked about her.
She refused to believe that there were men in women's prisons.
How many are?
Hundreds is the answer.
But you give all the answers, they just ignore them.
They never take it on.
They never take it on board.
But like, these policies are so bizarre that the people supporting them don't even believe what they're supporting.
She thinks that there's no issue, that it's not a problem, that trans people are all great because she has one lovely trans friend who's never been rude to her, right?
But the truth is that there's so many different types of people in the world.
And again, if you move the line for criminals, do you not think criminals will take that opportunity?
I read an interesting thing about when cops are looking for someone.
If they hear, for instance, they're parked at a supermarket, their target is parked at a supermarket, the first thing they do is they drive around all the disabled spaces.
Because criminals love parking in disabled spaces, parking, because they think, well, that's just for the ordinary guy.
That doesn't count for me.
So the first thing they do is they check out the cars in the disabled spaces to see if it matches their thing.
That's what the criminal mindset is.
So if you suddenly say, well, now our sex is actually internal and it doesn't depend on appearance and so on, you don't think criminals are going to go, hang on a sec, that means I could just waltz into place X and have a look at the women in there and no one will throw me out.
The famous Wi Spa incident, which The Guardian misreported three times, calling it a hoax.
And it was a sex offender named, I can't remember, Darren something, but it was a sex offender who was getting his dick out in front of these women and kids because it was like an open thing for women and kids, you know?
And they'll defend it.
And they did defend it.
That guy with the mustache, do you remember him?
And I think you're being a bit of a bigot.
I think he deserves it.
You know, how do they even know?
Maybe he's not saying he's trans, you know, but they will automatically defend a fucking sex offender over a woman complaining about it.
And people won't realize it until, I would say, maybe 10 years when the first, when, when the generation of kids who've been taught since they were very, very young, there's one comedian in LA who said that her who said that his child announced he was the opposite sex at four, right?
And he's now got a second trans child.
Okay?
So that's abuse.
That's abuse.
Okay?
Let's call it what it is.
It's abuse.
If you confuse your child, that you spend years convincing them they're the opposite sex, you know, what is that?
And the worst thing that happened to it was they gave it a label.
It's like if they called anorexia something more attractive, you know, if they called it something like, well, I think they do actually, on some forum, some pro-anna, I think they call it, where people get online to discuss the way they avoid eating properly and the way they regurgitate food and so on.
And that's another thing that's kind of gradually getting chipped away at as well with all this stuff.
Because if a child can decide at 9 or 13 or whatever it happens to be that they're trans and thereby lose their future fertility and so on, then what other decisions can a child make, you know?
And of course, those children aren't making those decisions.
And part of the reason why the human race has survived to the extent that it has and thrived to the extent that it has is because we are imitative.
So when, for instance, we started moving into the Ecuadorian forest, we started making blowpipes and canoes and stuff like this.
It was passed on, you know.
Now, that's a wonderful part of human survivability and evolution.
But what happens when the internet gets involved, right?
And you get that iterative or not iterative, mimetic kind of behavior that human beings are so prone to.
Of course, it's going to lead to something like the trans movement, you know?
Because what are you promising with trans?
If someone decides they're trans, what are you promising?
You're promising to be love-bombed by all your friends, you know, to be to be praised to the hilt in the press and to, you know, women as well.
Women fawn over trans-identified men.
Unfortunately, a lot of this is driven by women, you know?
Women are the ones fighting it.
But also, there's a lot of women involved in pushing it as well.
It almost seems to be like a kind of self-sacrificing, I'm so good that I don't mind if men come into my spaces, you know?
And they don't seem to realize that.
Yeah, you can agree for that for yourself, but you can't agree for that for everyone else, you know.
So, and apparently, women are on, you know, when we're talking about the mimetic quality that the human race has, there's also a quality, apparently, that women have where they will tend to go along with the majority viewpoint, whatever the majority viewpoint is.
And the reasons for that are quite understandable.
You know, you have a part of the human race who is smaller, weaker, you know, they have to be more amenable.
They have to be more accommodating, you know?
And that empathy is being weaponized against them, you know?
It's the same with gay people.
Like if you, I'm a great believer in what they call queer spaces because I think of things like Warhol's Factory and John Waters films, like, you know, his kind of trashy movies, John Waters.
He made, he's a gay guy who made all these films in Baltimore.
He made, he made more, what did he make?
Hairspray.
That was his most famous.
But in the early days, he had a film set that was just filled with outcasts and criminals.
And, you know, he'd have the craziest people carrying the equipment and stuff like this.
It was a welcoming space for outsiders.
And that's what a lot of gay spaces are like.
Okay.
And that's why there's a lot of sympathy for trans-identified people.
But again, that sympathy and that inclusion is being weaponized against the people who are, and it's destroying these spaces, you know?
One of the first things I heard was a young woman who wrote to me.
She said she was in a gay bar with a trans woman and who she'd known for ages.
She'd considered him, her a friend, him a friend.
And this, she was a lesbian, and he said to her, would you ever consider a relationship with me?
And she said, no, sorry, I'm only interested in, you know, female people.
He slapped her across the face and walked out.
That's the level of entitlement these straight men have to lesbians.
He slapped her across the face in a gay club.
And if anyone had found out the reason, she would have been thrown out.
But the thing that I tend to see is there's a sort of, I saw Anthony Jesenek doing this.
He said something like, we know so much more about trans people now.
I was like, no, you don't.
You know, you know just as much as you did 10 years ago, even less, because there really is no such thing.
You know, it's a non-stable category that's been applied to everyone from fucking criminals who are trying to get an easy time in prison to young girls cutting their breasts off.
Nothing connects these people.
Nothing connects them.
So comedians are still on unsteady ground.
They don't really know how to talk about it.
Because you're, like everyone else, we're all slightly bamboozled by all the language and so on, you know?
So I find that even in America, I find that trans issue doesn't come up a lot, but maybe It comes up.
Well, this guy, as I say, this kind of guy who's a sex offender, he has been able to use the legal system to harass his enemies for about eight years, and no one seems to be able to stop him.
So it is what it is.
But again, it's because of the empty chair at the top, because Kier Starmer is such a coward and his labor MPs, like one MP, David Lamy, who's now the foreign secretary, he thought men could grow a cervix.
Boy, that would be an interesting paper that someone would write.
You know what I mean?
Like imagine if that could actually be done, which is probably going to happen within our lifetime, maybe, but surely in the next hundred years, they're going to be able to artificially manipulate a person and actually turn a man into a woman.
Yeah, probably.
Yeah, well, I mean, probably only do it once, like one way.
He had to apologize to even more people than me because he was a big trans activist and he had to ring people up and apologize for losing them their jobs and stuff like that.
Well, it's just the strangeness of our time where this is a controversial thing to talk about, that this can get you in trouble, and that there's so many cowards out there that don't recognize that what everything you're saying rings true, that they won't talk to you, cast you out of their social circle, won't support what you're saying, which super logical stuff.
Oh, I have a therapist friend, Stella O'Malley, someone who has been there for me throughout all of this.
And she nearly lost her license just for talking to me online.
You know, I mean, that's how bad it is.
Even an exchange that's nothing to do with the subject can be used as a, oh, you know, Gray Linhan.
So they tried to take her license.
She's one of the people who are actually fighting the real fight.
She's part of a group called Genspect.
And they, you know, they recognize it as a mental illness and they try and treat it as gently and without harming the child as they can, you know?
And she's another person who's been vilified and lost opportunities, I'm sure.
But, you know, if you're a parent and you're going through this stuff, Genspect is the place to contact, you know, because they will show you how to deal with it properly.
Oh, yesterday I had a conversation with Perplexity, which is, apart from this, a really good platform.
It has all the AIs in one search box, so you can switch between models.
I was arguing with it.
I've never argued with AI before, but I was actually having a full-blown argument with it because it simply would not give me back the information I needed in a non-ideological way.
And it's because AI uses the information that's on the internet.
And the information that's on the internet is information that this guy and a lot of trans-identified fellow travelers who work in computers have managed to keep in the first few pages of the internet.
So it's really interesting.
I found that an interesting exchange because for once AI wasn't telling me how brilliant I am.
Could it recognize that the sources of these particular articles are very biased and leaning towards this person because these people who wrote it are transactivists and this and that?
It's also going to be able to translate all languages instantaneously.
So it's going to be able to understand the Chinese understanding of technological innovation in terms of their applications of electric vehicles and stuff that they jump far ahead with.
I mean, we're just guessing as to what its physical form is going to look like or what the results, what kind of effect it's going to have on civilization.
It might not be negative.
It might not be.
It might be able to figure out an end to a lot of things.
Like, what if super intelligence figures out like a real clear equation of how to completely eliminate the idea of impoverished communities forever?
People that figure out things that they want to do with their life, they're encouraged through a better school system that understands the human mind because it's all run through AI instead of ideologically based by these people that are professors, don't want to teach it one way forever.
What if it figures out a better way to teach people?
What if it figures out jobs that human beings are capable of doing, what are you interested in?
People are always going to want to see bands live and comedians live.
You're going to want to still see stuff.
People are still going to want to see musicals and see plays because there's a magic to live performance.
But boy, the actual art of making a film, there's going to be an opening where a lot of interesting creative minds, like some of these people that are making the funniest fucking memes, you're like, who made that?
It just showed up in my text message.
Somebody sent me a thing and I'm laughing at it.
I have no idea what the origin is.
I have no idea what fucking nerdy genius was sitting at his cube.
All of a sudden, everyone's laughing and everyone's passing it on.
So what about films?
What about some genius person who's kind of a little out there, can't figure out a way how to politically navigate Hollywood, but they have these ideas for stories in their heads that are fucking wild.
Whereas once you lose those strictures, you can be a lot freer and sometimes messier and so on.
Now, with Curb, Larry David did great, but someone who doesn't know the business or someone who doesn't know that, hey, not everyone who says this doesn't work hates your work and wants to destroy it.
It's actually because that bit doesn't work and you should change it.
They need, you do sort of need people like that.
If my shows went out the way I originally wanted them, no one would watch them.
But the funny thing about when we were starting writing comedy is that we were hugely influenced by these DVDs of Saturday Night Live that would only show tiny clips of the people involved.
So we had the best of Phil Hartman, the best of this, the best of that.
And the best of Phil Hartman, we would just see these tiny moments out of much longer sketches because they couldn't afford to pay the star again.
Well, someone said on The Simpsons team, they said they couldn't write the Lionel Hutz characters and all the other characters he played when he died because they would just hear his voice and it didn't sound right if it wasn't in his voice.
The thing about Kubrick that always confuses me, though, was, you know, the famous thing about him getting the two secretaries to write out all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy.
There's like all these weird symbolism that he would put in his films and like all the different things in the shining that lead people to believe it's some sort of an expose on the moon landing conspiracy.
I mean, what they've done, when you look at the course of their career, so much of their stuff was so absurd, but yet dead on, believable, like ridiculous, but still, I'm with this.
And also the strange thing they did in later films where it's almost like they're creating a fake Hollywood where Clark Gable plays chain gang members and Bogart plays a barber.
You know, they almost created a sort of shadow Hollywood, which I really love.
You know, the Hoodsucker Proxy, which is basically a Preston Sturges film with all the fast-talking dames and all this sort of stuff, you know, or Frank Capricorn.
No, not really Frank Capricorn, but Sturgis and Billy Water and people like that.
There's a weirdness that's going to happen, this uncanny valley of not going to be able, you're not going to be able to tell in writing as well as in visual stuff.
But I think they're going to pass that real quick.
I think it's not just going to be that.
There's going to be another problem.
And the other problem is immersive experiences.
I think the moment they create a human-neur interface, immersive experiences are going to be so difficult to walk away from.
If you think that you're addicted to your phone now, wait until you wear it on your head and it makes you orgasm.
And her name on Twitter, I think, is TT Exulansik.
And she, all she does is she plays videos by trans men who are talking about the medical complications.
And that's all they do.
And none of them seem to have any insight into the fact that they didn't actually have to do any of this, that they didn't have to get these procedures, that they could be, and all they do is they catalog the amount of time they have to keep going back into the hospital to get something fixed.
Because there's no such thing as a successful trans surgery.
You know, there's people who are happy with it, but that reminds me of something else.
I wanted to say one thing about Jazz Jennings.
But anyway, these girls, they just talk about their endless medical problems.
They don't seem to realize it's because of their trans identity, you know.
And there's one girl who appeared on, and my God, this really blew me away.
She, you know, she has the facial hair that comes with being a trans man and stuff.
And she's talking, it's actually one of the more recent ones.
You can actually show it.
It's quite, it's short-ish.
But she's saying that one of the things that I didn't realize I'd be getting is bug paranoia because she has all this facial hair growing in different parts of her body that she didn't have before.
And she's feeling it itch and tickle at different, in a way that she's not used to.
She's become convinced that there's a bug on her, you know?
And you know the way most, you know, a lot of women are scared of bugs.
Can you imagine that?
Now you're in, you've put yourself into a situation where you're going to have this bug feeling for the rest of your life.
I mean, you know, there's a lovely woman I know in a Scottish woman who detransitioned, you know, and she has to shave every day.
You know, she's just got a delicate woman's face.
She has to shave every day, you know.
And I've heard another, another, there was another trans-identified person who desisted, but they look like a balding middle-aged man, you know, in their 20s, right?
And you miss that vibe on television, unfortunately.
It's weird.
Like watching television stand-up comedy is like 60% of the actual show, maybe 70%.
Still great.
You know, when you get a chance to see someone like David Tell, who you maybe don't get a chance to see in the clubs, you haven't been able to see him live.
When he says, I didn't even know Chuck Berry was in it until he disappeared.
Oh, God, that was funny.
He's like, I love him.
And he's been great throughout as well because he's been someone who says the same stuff in a very funny way and expresses like, you know, he was actually.
And the only places that were free of it, for me, feels like they got attacked.
This is what I mean by that.
Like if you went over to any of those alternative places like Gab or any of these, they were flooded with racism and xenophobia and homophobia and flooded in a way where I don't necessarily believe it's all organic.
I think it's a great way to sabotage a platform that might attract like if you wanted to have a platform, if you were running a platform and your platform was incredibly left-wing, like fully censoring pertinent data that would help Trump or help the right-wing people.
If you were running that platform and all of a sudden a new platform came about and a bunch of people were talking about jumping ship, how hard would it be to just sabotage that platform and just start just the most horrible racist things?
You say it over and over and over again, flood it, flood it with hate, flood it with terrible messages, flood it with disinformation and bad faith arguments and just outright lies.
You can do whatever you want.
If you have a good computer, you have a good computer crew that knows how to code things, you can use AI to push a specific narrative.
They've already done it.
They can crowdsource an attack on someone that's entirely bot created.
Why wouldn't you do that where there's a new social media platform?
So no social media platform got to exist that was free until Elon bought Twitter.
Because by that move, which a lot of people don't appreciate for how spectacular the result was, what a big difference it made.
But I think there's a lot of fake arguments that are designed to keep people at each other's throats and distract from the greater issues that we all have to deal with.
I think that's a real strategy that's being used not just by people in the United States, but by people outside the United States on the United States.
But the funny thing about it is you almost don't need to sabotage something to that extent because if you were to destroy a country's ability to know right from wrong, truth from lies, all these things, what better way would there be of doing it than the trans movement?
Where you can't even accept the evidence of your own eyes and say that's a man or that's a woman.
Like it is a destabilizing, it's destabilizing Western society.
And I think it will, I think that type of thing could easily be weaponized against us.
Yeah, you know, James Lindsay's theory about, I love, I find that a very compelling theory.
He said about what happened with Marxism and so on in the last 20, 20, 30 years, is that they gave up trying to persuade working class people to have a revolution because their lives were too good under capitalism, right?
No one wanted to be a revolutionary.
So what happened, he thinks, was that all these Marxists, all these left-wingers who really believed in the left-wing project or the communist project, whatever you want to call it, socialist project, they all started going into teaching and cultural places because they wanted to change culture that way.
And it's been incredibly successful, if that is true, you know?
There's a lot of people that have went through that university system and then came out on the other side and tried to be independent thinkers and realize how easy they get attacked.
And they're just like, there's something going on here.
I'm worried about my kids are going into university and half me wants to just protect them from it because, you know, like I know so many stories of people who went to university and came back with a trans identity, you know.
Well, one of the big problems, I think, is that it feels to me, I don't know if it feels like this to you, but the 50s, they call it the invention of the teenager, right?
60s, 50s, 60s.
So we had the 50s, 60s.
Then the 70s, people started thinking of rock music as art and so on.
And it continued like that for a while.
And there was always a very, very healthy youth culture, right?
Bowie is a good example, okay?
All his fans would go out dressed like, you know, in gender non-conforming ways, you know?
Now there's no figures like Bowie, you know?
What we have instead is a political ideology instead of the old days where it used to be music, culture, where you could take your personality and find your tribe and throw yourself into a culture, right?
That doesn't seem to exist to the same extent that it did for kids.
I could be wrong, but it doesn't seem, there doesn't seem to be, like, who, who, who's, I believe recently it was the first time in forever that, or I think the first time since there were charts maybe, that there was no band in the charts, right?
No actual musical band.
It was all individuals, you know?
So, you know, the whole thing about bands, about being in a gang, all that cool stuff, it's gone.
And a lot, you know, one thing I definitely want to make clear is when I'm talking about trans activists being evil and so on, I'm not talking about all of them.
You know, there's a lot of good people who are mixed up with this.
And they see their trans friend and their trans friend is lovely and they want to protect them and think that, you know, people like me are hateful and will never accept them as human beings and so on.
That's not the case at all.
It's the ideology.
It's the ideology.
It's a lot of trans activists.
But as for trans people themselves, there's a whole range of different people with different opinions.
But the problem with it as a movement is they won't call out the bad actors, you know.
And they have to, if they're going to, basically, my friend Artie Morty, who is a gay guy, Canadian gay guy, you know, he says the only reason that gay rights got accepted is because when NAMBLA, right, the North American Man-Boy Love Association, and PIE in the UK...
the Paedophile Information Exchange, similar groups.
But like I always thought paedophile information exchange, they possibly shouldn't have called themselves the paedophile information exchange.
Like one of the reasons it's ironic that I get called toxic is one of the very first things I did in this fight was I signed a letter to Stonewall, the big gay organization in the UK, asking them could they recognize that there's a plurality of beliefs in this issue and could we all work together to reduce the toxicity?
right?
So I signed this letter along with a bunch of other people.
They said no.
Within the day, they said no and cast us all as bigots again, you know?
So it's like there's a problem with legacy gay organizations.
They have to be ridded of all these people who can't answer biological questions.
Because they're endangering the whole cause of gay rights.
Like however many years, what is it now?
60, 68, so 30, 55, over maybe 60 years of gay rights, okay?
And they're in danger of throwing it all away because of their sudden obsession about a bunch of straight people, you know?
Because most trans-identified men are straight, you know?
Well, listen, Graham, I'm sorry all this happened to you, but I'm glad that we could have a place where you could tell your story because your story is very eye-opening.
And this is not what we'd want from a polite, respectable, and even progressive society, especially from a guy like you.