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Joe Rogan Experience #2265 - Kurt Metzger
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*laughter* Meet the Cosby kids.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Look at this.
The thing says meet the Cosby kids.
kurt metzger
Who wrote this sketch?
joe rogan
I don't know.
But what's funny is that back then, that was ridiculous.
kurt metzger
Yes.
Hey, I mean, Phil Hartman's gone, but all the rest of you, thanks for speaking up.
Hey, this reminds me of a sketch that we did.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
How come I just heard of this now?
joe rogan
How come I just heard of this now?
kurt metzger
Boy, SNL was funny.
joe rogan
Oh, SNL was great when Phil Hartman was on it.
The early days of SNL were amazing.
kurt metzger
Was Al Franken working there when they did that?
joe rogan
I don't know.
kurt metzger
Because I would think Senator Franken would have said something.
joe rogan
Oh, he's not a senator anymore.
He got caught hugging a girl.
kurt metzger
Yeah, I would think after you got screwed over like that, you wouldn't still do Blue Maga, but I guess you would.
joe rogan
Ah, he's just locked in, you know?
kurt metzger
Hey, man.
joe rogan
That guy's great, too.
Hal Franken's a great guy.
kurt metzger
Yo, he had a funny...
One time he was on Conan.
This made me laugh so hard.
He was saying how the internet, how great it is for kids.
My son, my kid just did a...
Third grade report on bestiality.
And the other kids just loved it.
joe rogan
That was a preposterous sketch.
kurt metzger
Well, you know, John Money, I'm sure whoever wrote that knew about John Money, right?
The guy that came up with that.
joe rogan
I bet they didn't.
kurt metzger
That's a bunch of Lampoon Harvard people, right?
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
So, you know, they go, oh, the Simpsons, how do they predict the future?
You're near the people that pull the levers of power in college.
Like, you're just going to osmosis up their fucking plans.
It ain't psychic.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they don't, like, broadcast their plans to students, undergrad students.
kurt metzger
Yeah, they do.
What do you think a Rhodes Scholar is?
That's them broadcasting their plans.
That's what the great Bill Clinton, I believe you had a meanie fly contact with.
joe rogan
What do you mean by broadcaster plans?
kurt metzger
The plans have never been seen.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the plans were never in the 90s or the 80s.
The plans would never turn boys into girls.
kurt metzger
This was not in your department, but I mean, you know how far back this should go?
You know in Rome, the galleys of Kybly?
You know what that is?
When they were losing to Hannibal and the priestess of Kybly?
It's like C-E-Y-B-E-L-E. It looks like Sibeli, but it's Kibley.
joe rogan
Okay.
kurt metzger
And the myth behind it is insane.
Like, the myth story is this one god that was too horny that had both sets of organs.
So they trick him.
I love, like, they trick him with wine and they tie his dick to the ground.
Come on, somebody went to church on Sunday.
Somebody went to a church and learned this.
joe rogan
Tie his dick to the ground, like how they do a bull, like through the nose.
kurt metzger
Yes, yes.
Yes, exactly.
And then he jumped up and it ripped his dick off.
joe rogan
No, Jesus.
kurt metzger
And then so he starts hanging out with his handsome nephew and his nephew is faking like he's a great hunter because this dickless uncle.
He still has a pussy, the uncle.
But these gods sure sound like just L.A. people.
Why don't the gods just sound like L.A. people?
Okay, so my favorite...
Yeah, the eunuch priest.
So my favorite writing about it is like when they celebrate...
And then the legend or the myth has more of like this wedding gets sabotaged by the jealous, ripped-off dick guy.
And the women cut off their own breasts and the men cut off their genitals.
And there's an early Christian, I can't remember who's writing about it, but he goes, they cut off their genitals and go about shrieking in the street.
joe rogan
They cast themselves as a sign of devotion to the goddess.
kurt metzger
Yeah, so I don't think nothing's new, you know?
I think it's all the same shit repackaged in different ways.
joe rogan
They wore saffron rose and clash cymbals together as they walked down the streets.
So they were basically having one of those women's protests.
kurt metzger
Kybly was also known as Magda Mater, or the Great Mother.
So the doctor, if you heard Phil Hartman, he goes, Mommy says...
This is like a theme that goes through history.
joe rogan
Well, you know what Nero did, right?
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
He took that boy when his wife died.
He found a slave that looked like his wife and chopped his dick off and turned him into his wife.
kurt metzger
Remember when you had that guy, Thaddeus, whatever, the postmodern guy?
I was just watching a clip.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
kurt metzger
And I happened to just re-watch it.
And he basically told you, like, nothing's anything.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
The simulation talk is all like, I look at everything as, what's the marketing here to me?
And a lot of it's like, nothing means anything, so, you know, like, what's the big deal with kids you could do stuff with, right?
It always gets to that eventually.
joe rogan
Well, most of those guys who say that don't have kids.
kurt metzger
Yeah!
You absorb your, dude, it's like middle-aged men, you know, by the way, I'm heavily invested in Hawk to a coin.
Let me talk about these idiots.
joe rogan
We should talk about that because I want to know what is going on with the MAGA coin.
Here's the thing that we were talking about last night.
The MAGA coin was worth $36 billion.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Trump coin.
It's not the MAGA coin?
No, it's Trump coin.
It's just Trump.
Okay, Trump coin.
So the Trump coin, I'm calling it the MAGA coin, sorry.
The Trump coin's worth $36 billion.
What that means is 36,000 people Put a million dollars in.
That doesn't even make sense.
So that's 36,000 million.
That's what 36 billion is.
kurt metzger
I believe you.
I'm not good at math.
joe rogan
Isn't that right?
That's right.
kurt metzger
I know Hawk 2 is going to the moon.
joe rogan
That sounds insane.
You could get 36,000 people.
Let's say it's way more people, way less money they contribute.
It still seems insane if you're using real money.
kurt metzger
You've never been to a casino or something?
joe rogan
But that's the point.
We talked about this.
You and I talked about this.
It is essentially gambling.
kurt metzger
It's degenerate gamblers is how the people that make the coins talk about the people.
joe rogan
Right, but the argument is that Trump is ripping off his fans with this Trump coin.
My question is, how is he ripping off his fans?
It's basically...
Like DraftKings.
Like, what are you doing?
kurt metzger
So it's a casino, and the thing is, the reason people, like, you know, Hawk to a Coin, people know it's stupid, right?
But kind of what people say the scam was, as I understand it, is they thought they were getting in on the dump phase, too.
joe rogan
Of course.
kurt metzger
So the trick is, almost everybody getting in on it knows they're going to have to dump it, and they think they're going to dump it first.
So they're not...
The pump is for other idiots.
I mean, it's built in that another idiot's going to shoulder whatever happens from this.
But what happens is every so often, this is my buddy who's telling me who works in it, one of them does turn out to be real.
So something like a Trump coin.
Now, I'm more of a Warren Buffett where I wish I had golden Trump shoes because I'll bet those will retain value.
joe rogan
I think I have a pair of those.
Tony has a pair.
He wore them to the club.
kurt metzger
I'm like, I wouldn't even wear them out.
unidentified
Why not?
kurt metzger
Those are going to put my kids through Trump University.
joe rogan
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kurt metzger
I feel like to promote Hoctua coin, it's worth it.
You've got to spend money to make money, Joe.
Hoctua.
Are you familiar with Hoctua?
I think it's a surfboard company.
joe rogan
So here's the question.
What's the problem with having a coin?
Because there's a bunch of those coins.
And the thing is, like, it's unbefitting of a president.
I get that argument.
That makes sense.
You know, you shouldn't do that.
You should be really concentrated on running the company.
You shouldn't have some obvious, like, money grab.
kurt metzger
What about being completely senile?
Is that unbecoming?
joe rogan
Yeah, no, it should have been unbecoming.
kurt metzger
Yo, shut up about unbecoming from now on.
jamie vernon
This is the chart for Trump coin right now, but a lot of that comes from, it shows, like, the top ten holders of the coin.
The number one would be the wallet who started it.
joe rogan
Okay, so that's his.
So he owns 80%.
So here's the thing.
If they don't sell, if the person who owns the coin, say if you made a Metzger coin, and the Metzger coin was worth $36 billion.
Congratulations, by the way.
kurt metzger
You are so rich.
I value it at that.
joe rogan
By the way, here's the thing.
jamie vernon
I only have $5 billion.
joe rogan
Oh, whoa.
It dropped from $36 to $5?
jamie vernon
That's not good.
When they were saying it was at...
Well, 30, whatever.
The highest was, the coin was worth $72 or $73 a coin.
It's now down to $25, $26.
joe rogan
Should you sell?
How much do you have in it?
jamie vernon
Depends on...
joe rogan
How much do you have in it?
jamie vernon
I don't disclose stuff like that.
joe rogan
He gets in on that stuff.
kurt metzger
Well, if you can get in...
jamie vernon
I have to catch the tweet early.
Friday night.
joe rogan
I knew you did, son of a bitch.
kurt metzger
You remember that game Pharaoh?
joe rogan
Jamie's gonna just show up with, like, fucking velour pants on in a Ferrari.
jamie vernon
It wasn't that early.
kurt metzger
Dude, please get velour pants.
joe rogan
A velour jumpsuit.
unidentified
I don't think I know.
kurt metzger
When a man comes in wearing velour, you're like, you just hit it big on shitcoin, didn't you?
joe rogan
Feeling good about myself.
kurt metzger
Dude, I told you I think that's what Kamala was, because they all knew she wouldn't win.
And they ran a great campaign.
They keep saying that hypnotic phrase is, well, great in that they knew she wouldn't win.
They all didn't like her.
And they all cashed in.
They go, okay.
joe rogan
They did cash in.
They didn't just cash in, but a lot of those special interest groups cashed in.
kurt metzger
She's a human hawk to a pump and dump.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because what was the final tally for the amount of money they spent?
At first they were saying it was $1 billion, but it's more.
I think now they've got it at $1.5 billion.
kurt metzger
Yeah, it's like the Tim and Eric billion-dollar movie, and I bet Tim and Eric voted for her.
joe rogan
They definitely voted for her.
kurt metzger
Smart.
joe rogan
It's important when you're in Hollywood to vote right.
If you want to get ahead in your career, you have to vote right.
kurt metzger
You have to vote correctly.
Well, if you really want to get ahead, you should do something dirty on tape with another scummy motherfucker that you can hold over each other.
You know, that's how our government works.
That's what I heard.
America's national bird should be gay blackmail.
Okay, do you know what the eye in the pyramid is?
It's somebody peeping through a hole and watching you.
joe rogan
How Kamala Harris burned through $1.5 billion in 15 weeks.
kurt metzger
So she's the hawk, too, of this.
They're dumping it all on her, even though it was probably Howie Mandel's son-in-law that did it.
joe rogan
She's pressed for more cash since the election, which is crazy.
She's asking for cash.
kurt metzger
Yo, my girl gets Democrat fundraiser things.
Back when they overturned Roe v.
Wade and then the next day asked for money.
That's like the ultimate test of how much of a cow you are.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
They said we need money because they just overturned Roe v.
unidentified
Wade.
kurt metzger
They held Roe v.
Wade.
How long did they hold that over everybody's head that you're going to lose Roe v.
Wade?
And I remember Trump being like, I didn't tell him to do that, and I don't think he did.
I think that's one of those...
Gun rights and doing that are the two, like, how do we emotionally hit somebody to make them do what we want?
And since they do a shit job, the mafia that runs shit, they're running out of emotional buttons to push on you.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
Plus, they got you pumped full of drugs and make you not feel things.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
So you got to jerk off to My Little Pony eventually.
Right?
I'm sure there's no problem.
Dude, remember Temple?
You know Temple Grandin is, right?
joe rogan
No.
kurt metzger
The autistic lady that helped them cattle ranchers.
She's an engineer.
It was a real TED Talk circuit kind of person.
joe rogan
Oh, I kind of vaguely remember now.
kurt metzger
20 years ago, my friend was there.
He goes, yeah, and she realized because she could kind of think like a cow because they'd be spooked by shadows and stuff.
And so she understood stuff about them.
And I was like, oh, that's interesting.
It's very smart.
An engineer.
Boy, what a useful citizen.
Think of these useful citizens we have now.
They're really technically minded and really focus on that.
They self-compartmentalize almost.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
And you can program whatever sexuality.
You're a woman.
Like, I am.
You can fucking make them fall in love with TV ponies.
joe rogan
And the more vaccines you get them, the more easy they are to program.
kurt metzger
Oh, last time I was here.
Oh, yes.
The last time I was here, me and my girl flew.
And so I was asleep.
I like to be knocked out.
I don't want to be awake for any part of the flight, okay?
And my girl's sitting next to this other girl.
Who she thought was a kid at first, but was probably a 30-year-old woman.
So she was like...
She must have been from the Pacific Northwest.
Vaguely Asian, wearing a Pikachu mask, COVID mask.
Okay, bright colors.
joe rogan
Okay.
kurt metzger
Okay?
She sits down, and I'm passing out.
And the girl's getting the cookies they bring you.
And she has a box with a little Pikachu, and she sits it on the tray and eats cookies with it.
Okay, and then Jenna's like, I fell asleep, and she woke up laughing because the girl's got an iPad.
She's laughing her ass off at Clifford the Big Red Dog.
Okay?
joe rogan
And it's like a 30-year-old woman.
kurt metzger
Yeah, and I go, just so you know, sweetie, that chick will make more money than you ever have in your life.
That's the new future.
So when you told me that China thing, that they were doing some weird...
Intelligence-raising experiment.
What did you tell me about it?
joe rogan
Yes.
Well, they said that they were trying to take these babies and make them immune to HIV. But what they were really doing was making their propensity for intelligence much higher.
kurt metzger
So you think...
joe rogan
And then the guy got arrested for doing it and went to jail, and then they got out.
But he was like this, like, what's obviously they wanted him to do it.
Like, the whole thing is, like, escape.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well, you got a computer.
America's going to hand you your ass.
I'm sure they got the same story you hear here.
China's going to hand us our ass.
joe rogan
They're literally developing geniuses from the womb on purpose.
kurt metzger
Hey, so are we.
Real weird geniuses.
joe rogan
But here's the question.
Why wouldn't you do that?
If you found out that there was a thing that you could do to kids.
kurt metzger
That doctor mutilating the children?
joe rogan
No.
kurt metzger
These kids have been mutilated.
joe rogan
Well, sure.
But if it's something just so simple as it just elevates your intellect, if there's a gene expression that they can turn on or off, and this thing that they can do when the child is in the womb can make the child 25% more intelligent.
kurt metzger
Right, but they're going to be autistic.
joe rogan
Are you sure?
kurt metzger
Well, have you seen the telepathy tapes, which everyone tells me about?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, but that's not...
Those are nonverbal people.
kurt metzger
Well, you turn the crankers or whatever.
It's a right blend of chemicals.
joe rogan
But how do we know?
We don't know that these people are autistic.
They might just be just genius.
It might not have a side effect.
Like, there are people that are geniuses.
kurt metzger
The Chinese ones are the ones...
joe rogan
The Chinese ones, where they manipulated the genes.
The thing is, like, there's...
kurt metzger
Well, because China, it's hard to tell.
joe rogan
There's a lot of geniuses that aren't, like, socially fucked up.
They're just really smart people.
So what is that?
Why do some people have a 9-volt brain and other people have a fucking Tesla battery?
kurt metzger
Well, that's the quest, isn't it?
That's why we have a eugenics festival every four years.
joe rogan
Right, but why wouldn't you encourage that kind of manipulation in the world?
kurt metzger
I guess because these people that play God invariably end up being perverts with weird-shaped dicks that they're taking it out on us.
Like your Epsteins and such.
Yo, all these tech dudes, I want their dicks out and I want to see what kind of deformities they have before I let them be in charge of shit.
You got a weird dick?
I don't think you should be social engineer and shit.
joe rogan
What were you saying last night about a guy who had a flute dick?
What were you saying?
kurt metzger
He could tell you this story.
I don't want to say it.
I don't want to name names because that's how Hitler happened.
joe rogan
Do you remember, I think her name was, is it Stacey Plaskett, whoever it was?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And she has this woman behind her that's like this super autistic lady that's mouthing every word.
kurt metzger
Yeah, she's like, and I know that.
joe rogan
I shouldn't say she is.
I don't know if she is.
Maybe she is.
unidentified
She's just a very enthusiastic young lady that has very bizarre behavior patterns.
kurt metzger
I know exactly what it is, because I talk to myself like a crazy person.
I have for my whole life, I'll just sit.
Just that look on that chick, that looks like me if I... I'm not even alone.
I just am thinking about it.
joe rogan
Right, but the fact that this girl's on air and her eyes are...
She wrote the speech.
Right, but her eyes are wide.
She looks like an alien.
kurt metzger
She's mouthing the words of her play.
joe rogan
Yes, yes, yes.
kurt metzger
She's a playwright, and she's mouthing the words that she wrote.
joe rogan
She's a writer on a sitcom.
kurt metzger
Exactly.
joe rogan
And she's waiting for the actress to deliver the launch.
kurt metzger
And by the way, that's every bit as creepy as psychic puppetry.
Do you understand how creepy that is?
joe rogan
It's very weird, yeah, because you know that lady who's the representative.
Watch this.
Look at her.
kurt metzger
Yeah, I've made that face many times.
joe rogan
Look at her eyes, though.
Look at those eyes.
Give me some volume.
kurt metzger
Yeah, they went over it together.
joe rogan
Look at her, though.
kurt metzger
See, if Kamala had one of them, she could have done better.
joe rogan
Look at those eyes.
Look at those eyes.
kurt metzger
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I didn't see that part.
joe rogan
Yeah, she made a mistake, and then the autistic girl corrects her.
kurt metzger
Wait.
joe rogan
I don't know if she's autistic.
I shouldn't say that.
unidentified
Wait.
Which took place on July 17th, 2023. In that...
The fuck?
kurt metzger
Wait, yeah, I'm missing the thing I'm supposed to be seeing.
joe rogan
She mouthed her...
unidentified
Which took place on July 17th, 2023. In that, we're to leave this interview...
kurt metzger
Because she said, uh?
unidentified
...to imply that when you said the laptop was real, that it meant that the FBI had affirmatively determined in October 2020 that the laptop belonged to Hunter Biden.
joe rogan
She realizes she made a mistake.
So she's going to correct her.
unidentified
We're to leave this interview and we're to suggest or imply that when you said the laptop was real, that it meant that the FBI had affirmatively determined in October 2020 that the laptop belonged to Hunter Biden.
joe rogan
So she has to correct her.
So she leans over and says something to her.
unidentified
Would they be representing what you said, correct?
Answer by Ms. Demlow.
They would be representing what I said because I don't have much knowledge of that.
kurt metzger
Oh my god.
unidentified
Wait, that's not what I... Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
kurt metzger
No, that's not just writing the speech.
That's fucking weird.
unidentified
Yeah, weird.
kurt metzger
I never saw that.
joe rogan
Yeah, weird.
Everybody needs one of them geniuses.
kurt metzger
Yeah, but that's like Voice to Skull she was doing, dude.
joe rogan
I need one sitting next to me on a podcast.
kurt metzger
Voice to Skull?
joe rogan
I would like one.
Can we find one?
Can we start our auditions tomorrow?
kurt metzger
Where's Jamie?
unidentified
Jamie's not the same thing.
kurt metzger
Yo, he knows about crypto, man.
joe rogan
Jamie's deeply invested in Hawk Tua.
kurt metzger
Tell this Fudd about Hawk Tua.
joe rogan
Do you know where Fudd comes from?
kurt metzger
I don't know.
joe rogan
Elmer Fudd.
And do you know what the reference is from?
Hunting Rifles.
So, uh...
Hunters and firearms enthusiasts, like Second Amendment people, like my friend Coleon Noir.
People who make YouTube videos on ARs and that kind of shit.
kurt metzger
It's not Colin?
joe rogan
Well, Collins is his real name.
Coleon Noir is his online name.
His real name is Collins.
kurt metzger
I've been saying Colin.
joe rogan
Collins is his actual name.
kurt metzger
Oh.
joe rogan
Doesn't matter.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
My point is, super firearms enthusiasts that kind of go to the SHOT Show in Vegas and check out all the latest fucking red dots.
They think of hunters that use, like, bolt-action rifles as FUDs.
You're an Elmer FUD. You're a dopey old hunter.
Like, you have an antiquated view of firearms.
jamie vernon
I think this is different, though, right?
joe rogan
Oh, fear, uncertainty, and doubt.
kurt metzger
Yeah, it stands for something.
joe rogan
Manipulative propaganda tactic used in sales markets.
I don't think that's what you were saying, though.
You're talking about FUDs like dorks.
kurt metzger
I was talking about this.
joe rogan
Oh, you said I'm a FUD, though.
Yeah, FUD, F-U-D. A noun?
kurt metzger
Yeah, they go the FUDs.
Oh!
The FUD factor.
joe rogan
But that's not what they're saying here.
They're saying it's a factor.
Put a competitor at a disadvantage, the FUD factor.
kurt metzger
You know what I'm going off of is Sigma grind set channels where they go on crypto and don't listen to the FUDs, you know?
joe rogan
So what I'm saying is that real hardcore gun enthusiasts look at guys wearing hunting rifles as FUDs.
kurt metzger
It's both.
joe rogan
Yeah, I get it.
kurt metzger
It's not just one thing.
It's both.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
I thought it was...
That's what I thought it was coming from.
Maybe it's just like my limited...
kurt metzger
No, all that libertarian crypto guys are kind of connected.
joe rogan
Oh, here it is.
An old-fashioned, unimaginative, or pompous person.
kurt metzger
It's both things.
joe rogan
Oh, fuddy-duddy.
kurt metzger
Somebody probably took the term FUD and made an acronym out of it.
Do you see what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Right.
And that's probably why they made Elmer FUD. Right?
It was probably already a term, and Elmer Fudd was a dork.
kurt metzger
Gun people and crypto people go together, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, it's all people that are really into a thing.
It's like coin collectors.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Those similarities of people that are really into collecting things, you find them in everything.
kurt metzger
I bet archaeology is the most interesting one.
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Well, the people that, like, actually get, like, stolen shit.
joe rogan
Like, they buy it from China.
They have, like, Egyptian mummies in their house and stuff.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
Making things scarce is the best.
You know, like, diamonds.
joe rogan
That's a big market, you know, for, like, illegal artifacts.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, really, really rich guys in other countries, they like to fucking go behind back channels and get, like, Egyptian shit that was, like, ripped off from tubes.
kurt metzger
Especially that.
I mean, when you hear, like, Templar Knight stories of old.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
kurt metzger
It sounds like.
Raiders of the Lost Ark stuff, don't it?
joe rogan
It does.
kurt metzger
Like, they were raiding the Lost Ark.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
So that goes back a lot.
I like that D-Dunking guy's channel because he's not like, you know, he's doing real...
joe rogan
He's great.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's coming on soon, again, by himself.
kurt metzger
If I can learn something from your thing, that's all I want.
joe rogan
Yeah, no, that guy's great.
kurt metzger
Yeah, like, you know, the guy that was like...
To Graham Hancock.
Don't talk about that.
It could lead to racism.
joe rogan
Oh, this is Flint Dibble.
He's just, you know.
kurt metzger
Flint Dibble coin, by the way, going to the moon.
joe rogan
I bet it's worth a lot.
What is the Dibble coin worth?
But here was my question about the whole coin thing.
Are they using real money?
Is that $36 billion real money that they bought it for?
Or are they using fake money?
Are they using, like, Shiba Inu coin to buy...
kurt metzger
Probably.
joe rogan
But you know what I'm saying?
So I was watching this thing on Shibu Inocoin when they were explaining that if you bought Shibu Inocoin in the beginning, you know, like if you got $1,000 in Shibu Inocoin, at one point in time it was only worth $2, but now it's worth like $17 million.
kurt metzger
That's right.
joe rogan
Like, if you hang on there in the waves...
You know, like if Elon tweets about Shibu Inu coin, that fucking shit will skyrocket.
And then you got, right?
jamie vernon
Might have asked him to do that when he was here before, and he didn't do it.
kurt metzger
Look, here's the difference between...
joe rogan
He's trying to make the system.
JD's trying to Nancy Pelosi the crypto market.
kurt metzger
Guess what?
Because I bet you know people got a story about how they had a whole bunch of Ethereum or Doge or whatever, but then the place they bought the coin through was shady, and now they don't have shit.
So here's the difference.
We get our real money the same way through dark occult magic, okay?
But there's insurance on it, right?
You get some more money.
That's why, so to regulate it, some guy like that FTX creep, they want to be in charge of it.
This is a time-tested oligarch way to do it.
You go, this is getting dangerous.
We have to regulate it, and then they control it, and then they're boss hog.
They need to be boss hog of the thing.
So what you see now is a mafia shift.
The mafia of people that used to know, what's his name?
You know, he's at the McCarthy hearings and he was pretending not to be gay and he had AIDS. The famous guy.
joe rogan
J. Edgar Hoover?
kurt metzger
The other one from the time that was friends with Trump and...
He had AIDS? He had AIDS. It's a famous story.
He prosecuted the people that stole the nuclear bomb secrets.
I'm blanking on his dumb name.
God damn it.
The gay blackmail guy.
Him and Hoover worked it out.
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Scarpa?
kurt metzger
Huh?
jamie vernon
Is it Scarpa?
kurt metzger
No, no, that's the mob boss that died of AIDS. Trump's friend, that notorious lawyer, Roy Cohn.
unidentified
Okay.
kurt metzger
Roy Cohn.
joe rogan
I don't know who he is.
kurt metzger
You never heard of Roy Cohn?
joe rogan
I've heard the name, but I don't know who he is.
Like, if you ask me, like, what does Roy Cohn do?
kurt metzger
Okay, so...
joe rogan
I wouldn't be able to tell you.
kurt metzger
My guess is Roy Cohn told Trump where all the bodies are buried.
And I really got put onto this by dark journalists.
I'm telling you, that guy's great.
Daniel List, his name is.
Because he just, just the facts.
He just gets the facts.
joe rogan
Just the facts, ma'am.
kurt metzger
Yeah, and so Roy Cohn...
The whole network that the whole pyramid scheme works on, which is blackmail, really comes part of that.
And Trump, you'll notice, doesn't drink, doesn't do drugs.
You know about who he slept with.
Yeah, this guy.
So you know who Trump slept with already.
Like, I don't care that he paid that chick to shut up.
Why would you even try to prosecute for that?
Like, I give a shit.
You know this shit, all these other motherfuckers.
joe rogan
How creepy does he look?
kurt metzger
Okay, he wasn't creepy, but...
He looks creepy.
So Trump is going in...
They wanted Trump to run because then you'd have to vote Hillary.
You remember the story?
joe rogan
Right, right.
kurt metzger
Okay?
And then Trump won, and it's like, you know, in Pulp Fiction when Bruce Willis wins and he shouldn't have.
Right, right.
Because you can't have a guy that you don't have blackmail on.
Right.
The president doesn't have the highest security clearance, and he doesn't.
The president does not.
He's supposed to, I thought, but he doesn't.
And the excuse is, well, he's only there 48 years, right?
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
So already now you've told me there's a deep state with that.
Just with that.
And now you're telling me that the president has not meant anything for quite some time.
So there's secrets we don't get to know or vote for.
And that's just how it is.
And you saw men in black.
Just trust them.
They got Will Smith on the team.
joe rogan
I don't like the way you're talking.
This is for the good of the company.
Excuse me.
Country.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
Well, dude.
joe rogan
The good of the country.
kurt metzger
Even if you think of original sin, the whole concept of original sin, right?
That's incorporation.
That's like the liability is on all of us for the company.
That's an incorporating thing.
So everything's that.
Look, everybody's going to keep putting money in these dumb coins, okay?
And I'll bet you a Trump coin, which is bullshit.
He's got some real crypto scumbags hanging around him.
Larry Ellison, I don't know who the hell is looking at that guy and thinking he should be...
In charge of anything.
Peter Thiel, I've never...
I watched you talk to Peter Thiel.
I've never seen someone lie so artlessly and autistically in my life.
joe rogan
What'd he lie about?
kurt metzger
Oh, dude.
I'm gonna put this out about Epstein Island.
Maybe just some guys were cheating on their wives.
Yeah, maybe that's all it was, Peter.
Some guys were cheating on their wives.
joe rogan
See, the thing is, he's a gay guy.
And he's not interested in going to that island.
So he's probably on the outs.
And allegedly, I mean, I don't know.
I don't know if he supposedly ever went.
kurt metzger
That's not the only game in town.
joe rogan
Oh, I'm sure there's gay blackmail.
But you can't gay, when a guy's single and gay, like, what are you going to get on him?
That he fucks other guys?
kurt metzger
See, that's why they didn't want gay marriage to be illegal, because what are we going to blackmail with?
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
kurt metzger
If you could just be gay.
Oh, that's right.
Worse things.
We're going to have to make you do a lot worse stuff now that you can be gay.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
And why are there still people in the closet in this day and age when there's a goddamn rainbow flag on every corner?
That's weird.
joe rogan
Well, it's people that got trapped, right?
So they've been lying their whole life.
And the social stigma of it in the 80s and 90s.
kurt metzger
AKA the intel community.
You just described the intel community.
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joe rogan
Right, they got you.
kurt metzger
There's no forgiveness, dude.
So, look, here's the thing, like, you know, like Russell Brands into Jesus.
You know, I don't know what's, like, true or not, but I do know.
The way the system works is perpetrator victim forever, and that's the pyramid.
And so you're going to have to forgive people.
I don't want to forgive none of them people at all.
So...
It will take a miracle from Jesus to make me feel like that.
joe rogan
I don't mind forgiving people.
I just don't think that they should be in the same positions.
If they were using their power to manipulate people and then something comes out about them that shows that this is why they were doing it, that person shouldn't be allowed to continue doing it and we forgive them.
They should find a new thing to do.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because they shouldn't be in control of the rest of the country's life.
kurt metzger
Dude, when those files come out, the JFK ones, because, you know, how much is going to come out?
The reason they overclassify, I think, is you don't need that much threads to pull to pull it apart.
And much smarter than people than me just do that all the time.
And you can still find them.
And so when these new files come out, here's what I'll bet.
It'll be a lot of shit to go through.
A lot.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
kurt metzger
I always think of that thing you told me of Judge Napolitano about if you saw what I saw, you wouldn't release it either.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
Now, I think I know what that means, but I don't, obviously.
joe rogan
What do you think it means?
kurt metzger
Oh, I think it's Monarch, dude.
I think it's part of Monarch.
I hope it is.
I hope they're going to get that off their chest, that MKUltra never ended.
I hope we're going to get that off our chest.
Because all UFO shit is directly with that.
And I don't know which parts are the mind control shit and which parts are some kind of entity.
And it's on purpose that you're not supposed to connect it.
But they're very connected.
joe rogan
Well, I told you my friend Evan Hafer's theory about JFK. What is that?
That when...
So, here's what happened.
They don't clue JFK in on the bag of pigs until very late in the operation.
And air support is critical for the survivor.
kurt metzger
Oh, the Cubans.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
So, he pulled...
Not the Cubans.
Americans.
American special ops guys.
So, they send in the fucking most ultra-violent best killers we have, but they have to have air support.
Well, he pulls...
JFK pulls air support, and those guys get fucked.
And a lot of guys died that shouldn't have died.
So those guys come back and they're fucking furious.
And those are the type of people that you would hire to kill people.
Because they kill people already.
So if you've got those guys and you've got this president that the entire special forces...
Division that went onto that island wants dead.
So you have thousands, or I don't know how many people deployed in that particular operation, but you've got, let's say you've got a thousand hardcore killers that want this president dead because their buddies got blown up unnecessarily.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Totally makes sense.
kurt metzger
Yeah, I have a question, because they are killers.
How come they try to kill Fidel Castro 600 fucking times, which is kind of high?
Didn't get that done.
Only tried to kill Kennedy once.
Got that done.
joe rogan
Well, Kennedy was in a fucking convertible in Dallas, and Fidel Castro was well aware that people were trying to kill him.
kurt metzger
It's easier to murder your own people who don't see it coming.
That's true, though.
joe rogan
But Castro was having affairs with women who knew things.
kurt metzger
He was James Bond, that motherfucker.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was tied in to people that were involved in the potential assassination of him.
He was getting inside information.
That's why he didn't smoke the exploding cigars.
They try to do like a cartoon.
They give him an exploding cigar.
kurt metzger
This is just public record, which blows me away.
They're like 600...
Because he'll tell you what a monster he is.
I'm sure he was.
I know if someone tried to kill me 600 times, I might become a monster.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
The first couple of times, I might get different, you know?
But 600 times, I might get kind of cynical.
I might lose my shine.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, he was already a monster.
I mean, he was already...
Forcing a dictatorship on those people.
kurt metzger
Monsters of measurement, and I want to know what you're measuring against.
I hope it's not against us, because a lot of these guys come up smelling better when you measure them against America.
Did you notice that?
Such as George H.W. Bush, and George W. and Cheney, and all those motherfuckers.
Look, hey, Gaza, what happened, happened.
I guess we're going to move on.
I don't want to hear about Russia or China ever the fuck again after that shit.
I don't want to hear about Uyghurs ever the fuck again after the shit they let happen in Gaza.
Go ahead, do the thing you're going to do, and take our money.
You're entitled to it, to do the murders you did.
But don't come at me with that fucking...
joe rogan
Moralism.
kurt metzger
The morals of the West bullshit ever the fuck again.
Because I'm going to tell you to go fuck yourself.
That's all.
Because there's nothing I could do.
I didn't do this shit.
joe rogan
It is funny.
It is funny that, like, George W., when he's sitting on the stage at the inauguration, I look over at him.
He's clearly medicated.
I would just guess.
kurt metzger
He's a sirhan, sirhan, if there ever was one.
joe rogan
He's sitting there smiling.
And look, there's all these memes online where he's, like, seeing things that aren't there.
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But...
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
You have to be that if you killed a million people.
If you killed a million people on a false premise, and then how do you sleep at night?
Well, they medicate the fuck out of you, and you're fine.
kurt metzger
But what about when you're kind of not a bad person deep down?
How do we get people that aren't psychopaths to become secondary psychopaths, which is what they call a sociopath now?
Because we need people to do murders.
No, I want a joint.
But, like, we need people to murder for us.
And, you know, it's not that easy.
To compartmentalize that, okay?
Our whole public school system is based on how hard it is to get people to pull the trigger.
The Prussian system, right?
That Prussian emperor invented our schooling because 70% of his soldiers, you know, they tell you those rifles weren't accurate?
joe rogan
They were missing on purpose.
Yeah, they didn't want to kill people.
kurt metzger
So what the hell?
Oh, they were growing up in loving families and we got to fix that shit, right?
joe rogan
So separate them earlier.
kurt metzger
Yeah, before you get that brainwave that tells you reality, okay?
And then, do you remember when suddenly pre-K? You know, outcomes of people who went to pre-K are better.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
Why?
Because you separated them from mommy earlier?
joe rogan
Exactly.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you know what happened with me?
kurt metzger
What?
joe rogan
Did I tell you?
I, um...
I think one of the things that led me to questioning everything my whole life was that when I was...
I didn't go to kindergarten.
kurt metzger
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
So I went to first grade.
First grade was the first time I went to school.
So I was with my family, this loving Italian family.
Catholic school?
Nice home.
Catholic school.
First grade.
And then all of a sudden, I'm being controlled by this nun who was a fucking ruthless cunt.
It was the first time I'd ever been around a mean person.
I didn't have mean people to me in my life.
And this lady was just fucking openly vicious.
She said she was going to make me sit on a nail in the closet.
That's hot.
It was weird shit.
You know, smack your hands.
She would hit you.
They would do things.
They would hit people in class.
I don't think she hit me.
I don't remember her hitting me.
But she hit people in class.
And I remember...
kurt metzger
Trauma bonding.
joe rogan
As a six-year-old kid sitting there in that class going, okay, I know this is all bullshit.
This is not what God would want.
These people don't represent God.
Because I was really into God.
My parents were getting split up when I was five, and I was really lost.
And one of the things that I clung to was religion as a young boy.
I didn't even really know what it meant, but I wanted to believe that there was a God that made something good.
kurt metzger
Well, you had formed the part of the brain where you have a sense of reality and fairness, right?
That's why they need to get you young for boot camp.
It's boot camp for kids.
joe rogan
By the time I had gotten to first grade, I had experienced enough bullshit that I realized that this lady does not represent God.
This was just some mean, old, celibate lady.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the whole thing was nasty, and the way she treated the students was terrifying.
From then on, I questioned things.
It literally set me down on a path from first grade.
And it was because they didn't get me when I was four.
They didn't get me when I was five.
They got me when I was six.
b-real
My parents had already split up.
joe rogan
I'd already seen some shit.
I'd already seen enough chaos to know that people are fucking not what they say they are.
I'd seen enough shit behind the scenes.
kurt metzger
No, they gotta get you.
That's why it's so useful to have adults that care about Pokemon.
You know?
joe rogan
What?
kurt metzger
We keep you five years old, one part of your brain forever.
Forever you're going to worry...
joe rogan
I think that's vaccines.
kurt metzger
Well, okay.
Look, it's not either one.
It's like, oh, we noticed this effect from a chemical.
Well, we already know public record.
They dumped that cobalt, whatever, on...
Black kids in Chicago.
We already know the shit they're willing to do to you at any given time.
So why, if you notice that some kids get autistic and they get savantism, why wouldn't you just see?
I mean, what was the point of bringing all them Nazis over after the war with all their great science if we're not going to test it out?
And these fuckers think they can do that to you.
They all think they can.
I don't know if you remember the vaccine mandates, but there's an example of it.
What am I, in the military?
I got to take a vaccine because I didn't sign no papers.
Well, we're going to nudge you if you want to go to work.
Dude.
joe rogan
But that's all a money grab.
kurt metzger
Well, okay.
joe rogan
But that's all a money grab.
kurt metzger
That's for a certain level.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's 100% what that is.
That's selling the most amount of vaccines possible.
And that, just look at the numbers.
That's worth...
Hundreds of billions of dollars worldwide.
kurt metzger
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
Hundreds of billions of dollars.
That's a money grab.
kurt metzger
Okay.
joe rogan
But here's the thing.
If you don't mandate them and you have more people that are surviving and getting through it and telling other people, it's fine, you don't need the vaccine, that cuts your profits in a massive way.
kurt metzger
You know, shit.
joe rogan
A massive way.
But that's all that is.
You're looking into it too deeply.
They're not trying to make autistic people.
kurt metzger
What do you mean all?
joe rogan
First of all, that's a money grab.
kurt metzger
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
Okay, never mind the autistic thing.
Of course it's a money grab.
And because you're, right now, not thinking like Hawk to a coin, you're thinking like a poor person.
Like, I make weapons.
I bet if I made more wars, I could sell more weapons.
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100%.
kurt metzger
I make fucking cures.
I bet if I made more diseases, I could sell more cures.
joe rogan
Well, you don't make cures.
You make treatments.
You don't want to make cures.
They openly discuss not wanting to have cures.
kurt metzger
Okay, so you see how...
So, openly.
This is the thing.
Because people will be like, oh, you're conspiracies.
Dude, I almost never tell the conspiracies, I think.
I tell public record shit!
joe rogan
You tell them in the green room and you freak me out.
kurt metzger
Yeah, just so...
And here's why I do that to everyone I meet, because I just want to see...
I just want to see...
joe rogan
And you corner him.
He's just fucking giant.
unidentified
He lurches over people in the green room and he's like, oh, did you know?
kurt metzger
Well, one, because when then sometimes people say something so uninformed that I'm like...
It is a triggering feeling.
joe rogan
Well, you have too much information, I think.
I've been a friend of yours for a long time, and we probably met, what, 15 years ago or something like that?
kurt metzger
Yeah, in Canada.
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many years ago was that?
kurt metzger
Just a long time ago.
joe rogan
Long time ago.
And I've watched your...
kurt metzger
Comedy Attic.
joe rogan
That's right.
No, Comedy...
Was it the Attic?
Jimbo's.
Comedy Works.
kurt metzger
I'm sorry.
Yes.
joe rogan
Comedy Works in Montreal.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So...
Over time, what has happened is you have, through doing the Jimmy Dore show, you got exposed to all kinds of really fucked up, real conspiracies.
kurt metzger
Yeah, the news!
It's called the news!
joe rogan
Yeah, but a real independent journalist, like Jimmy, who's also a comic.
kurt metzger
Right, so before that, well yeah, definitely, that's a big part of it.
That was it.
Conspiracy is almost like to relax after having to hear that.
Before that was Barry Crimmins.
Barry Crimmins used to tell me so much shit that I did not I have the ears to hear, and he would bring up Nicaragua all the time, and something Reagan did, and I'd be like...
joe rogan
Barry was a political commentator in a comic back when nobody was.
kurt metzger
He was also the real deal with it.
He wasn't a phony about it.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
He was the real deal with everything.
kurt metzger
We toured, okay?
He wanted to tour with me when the whole media tried to ruin me for a fucking month.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
Which I always knew they kind of sucked, but what I didn't know was that they just make shit up completely.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
kurt metzger
I had...
So, that's the real first thing where I noticed there's a big problem.
The previous thing where I thought there might be a problem was I had forgotten if we were still in Iraq.
It had been some years.
I was like, are we still doing that?
Like, it felt like I left the oven on, right?
unidentified
Right.
kurt metzger
And I had to Google if we were in Iraq still.
And then, so that disturbed me a little bit.
But, I mean, I moved on with my life, obviously.
Then the immediate thing.
And then on tour, so Barry went on tour with me just to be seen with me because I was getting so much shit because he was a...
Very leftist.
He used to say, there's no left here.
And I would go, you could have fooled me.
And he was right.
So everybody's saying left and right here.
What are you talking about?
There's upstairs, downstairs.
That's all there is.
But, dude, it's the same as the public school memos from your Rockefellers and Carnegies.
They've written down the thing openly and said what they're going to do.
Alex Jones didn't make up the New World Order, okay?
Alex Jones didn't pull that out of his ass.
George H.W.? A thousand points of light.
A new world order.
Your best friend, Bill Clinton?
unidentified
Like ships passing in the night?
kurt metzger
You didn't get under the Clinton charm?
You just got the...
joe rogan
I just got the demon behind the eyes.
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We just locked eyes with each other for like 15 seconds.
joe rogan
He just looked over at me and we looked at each other for like 15 seconds, dude.
kurt metzger
The idea of like...
I mean, do you need telepathy to read his mind when he looked at you?
joe rogan
No, I don't.
kurt metzger
But the thing that's funny is he looked at you like almost like a fucking, you know, that chick that blew him that they would have ruined.
If she hadn't saved that dress, it would be like, who saves the dress?
Somebody that knows they pissed off the Clintons?
joe rogan
But also, you should know that your strategy sucks because you've got to have me on your side, you fucking idiots.
kurt metzger
No, see, that's the thing.
You're not going to them parties you're getting invited to.
joe rogan
No, no.
I don't go to them parties.
kurt metzger
Here's how they're going to get you.
This is what I think.
They're going to invite you to see a dinosaur be reconstituted.
joe rogan
They have invited me to see some things like that.
kurt metzger
That's where they'll make their move, Joe.
joe rogan
I'm excited.
I'm excited to be tempted.
kurt metzger
Hey, dude, if you want to show me you remade a fucking something cool, okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm going to go.
That's how they can get me.
They can get me with science.
You know, Barry Crimmins was the glue that kept the Boston comedy community together.
And he was the reason why there was no hacks.
Everybody was scared of Barry.
I was fucking terrified of Barry.
The first time Barry was nice to me, I was like, whew.
kurt metzger
And unless this dude wasn't a hack, you know what's great is like, where'd that go?
You know, the guy that's like, Barry was far left, you would call him.
joe rogan
Well, he was far left, but supported American workers, American-made things.
He would drink Budweiser, you know, like he would pull a Budweiser out of his jacket on stage, he wouldn't drink foreign beer.
He was the real deal, and a really fucking beautiful person.
kurt metzger
Well, you know how the left transitions?
See, it's all about transitioning.
Nothing means anything.
So what we do is take the meanings of words and we all stick our dick in it and gape the word until all the meaning slides out of it.
So nothing means shit.
A vaccine don't mean a vaccine.
Whatever you thought a vaccine was, a thing that makes you not get the thing, it's never been that.
Oh, I didn't know.
Well, thanks for educating me.
Oh, don't worry, we changed it in the dictionary.
They did do that.
By the way, don't do your own research.
I'm never letting that go.
I read that in Forbes.
You must never do your own research.
Can I finish this issue of Forbes at least?
Do I have to put it down right now?
Why would you say that?
joe rogan
Well, what's crazy about them saying that is all the things they were saying that were conspiracy theories, because this is all in regards, do your own research stuff, was all in regards to COVID-19.
All the things that people were saying that they were calling a conspiracy theory.
Turned out to be true.
Every single one of them, but yet no correction, but yet they still want to be the people that give you the news.
kurt metzger
Hey, you know where the term tinfoil hat came from, right?
joe rogan
I don't remember.
kurt metzger
Okay, control all history.
I can't recommend this channel enough.
A lot of, like, recent history, but tinfoil hat, a guy named Leonard Kyle, K-I-L-E-S. He had patents on, like, Polaroid camera shit.
Okay?
He was a smart guy.
Thought his girlfriend was cheating on him and he would fly into rages and was seeing a therapist.
Bad luck for him.
This therapist was a CIA guy.
Yeah, Delgado.
Those old things with the bull where it doesn't charge because they're putting...
It's a chip.
You know, the brain chip has been invented a long time ago.
So they put this in this guy's head without telling him.
A brain chip.
And then it turned him into...
I mean, it just fucked him up.
Okay?
And he ended up in a booby hatch.
And the pain from, you know, because microwaves have to be transmitted to his chip.
So the pain of that in his brain made him put metal trash cans on his head.
Because he's smart.
He knew science things and what they were using, even though he was in pain.
And then they started letting him use aluminum foil around his fucking head.
So we get the term tinfoil hat from a guy the CIA mutilated and fucked up.
And now we say it as a joke.
Do you see how magic works?
Yeah.
joe rogan
What was the...
The implant they put in on them.
kurt metzger
Oh, what was it called?
The one they made in the 90s is called Soul Catcher, which is ominous.
joe rogan
Jesus.
kurt metzger
Yeah, Soul Catcher.
joe rogan
Right.
That's what they called it?
kurt metzger
That was on CNET. I texted it to you, dude.
British Silicon.
joe rogan
They probably got lost in that fucking scroll that you texted me.
kurt metzger
Hey, if you're worried about the new Elon chip, I got great news, guys.
They don't need a chip to do their thing no more.
They did it.
Why do you think people go, hey, what is this woke mind virus?
Well, it's a lot like the COVID virus.
unidentified
A thing a guy made.
kurt metzger
Why would you even work on something like that unless you were going to deploy it?
The CIA verifies, oh, they did think it was a leak.
Well, guess what?
It wasn't a leak.
I'll bet you it was on what I think it was on purpose because I don't know why you're fucking around with that if it ain't on purpose.
joe rogan
But why are you doing this gain-of-function research if you're not trying to find a cure?
Because they clearly didn't have a cure.
kurt metzger
A cure for a disease that doesn't exist yet?
That's suspicious.
Hey, how come all the new viruses that come out, the explanation, the not racist and good explanation that you shouldn't research, because that's how science works, obviously, by not doing research, they all come because some guy fucked an animal.
All of them?
Why do these freaks do this shit and then you get blamed?
So they go, so you create a virus in a lab.
No, you probably ate dirty bat wings.
Oh, okay.
There's this pattern of these assholes do something, and then it's blamed on you, and it's in everything.
The sci-fi.
How many times have I seen a goddamn sci-fi movie?
Oh, because you humans with your war.
Oh, yeah, I did that, motherfucker.
Thanks, alien.
Hey, thanks for picking me up and raping me.
That's what they do, right?
They probe you.
You wouldn't call it that if Puerto Ricans did it.
Right?
And then they tell you not to pollute.
Don't pollute!
And then they erase your memory so you have to pay for fucking hypnotherapy to remember not to pollute.
What is the purpose of that?
It was like a guilt trip for being alive.
Hey, what's your carbon footprint, Joe?
Do you measure your carbon footprint?
joe rogan
Isn't it just a warning about the direction of the human race?
kurt metzger
Oh, you know, we have a president and you could go to his house and stick your thumb in his asshole and give him that information since he controls the nukes and I don't.
Why would you go to a farmer?
And say that to him.
When we got all these leaders that are in charge of that, there's something that's fishy with that, isn't there?
Oh, warning accepted.
We got to stop being bad.
Yo, nobody wants these wars.
That's why they voted for Trump.
Nobody wants it.
Only a few people want it.
And they're the ones who seem to be hiding all the information.
And I'm supposed to go, oh, they have to keep secrets.
Like I'm a housewife being cheated on.
Right?
joe rogan
You're going around so many corners that it's hard to follow where you first started from.
You keep going with stuff.
We started with autistic people and now we're at...
kurt metzger
It's all the same.
I keep seeing the same cycle of the UAPs.
So, oh, they're having hearings and Chuck Schumer, that paragon of virtue is like, is he sick of the lies?
unidentified
And he's hiring a pill!
kurt metzger
He's sick of the lies, Kurt.
joe rogan
He's representing the people.
kurt metzger
Dude, you know Lou Elizondo risked his career to tell us there might be something he might have heard and it might be dangerous.
And there's a documentary and I'm going to see James Clapper on a documentary.
James fucking Clapper.
He gets an attack of the honesties about UFOs.
Hunter's laptop, though, he's going to sign that shit, right?
But this fucker's going to tell me the truth now.
So, I don't think there's no, there's something.
I know there is because you wouldn't be all like how they're being about it, but I'm sick of this J.J. Abrams mystery box storytelling, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah, well, there's definitely a lot of propaganda.
There's a lot of misinformation that's going on, I think, purposefully to try to muddy the narrative.
kurt metzger
Why?
joe rogan
I think it's ours.
I think a lot of that stuff is, but I also think we get visited.
I think that's real, too.
kurt metzger
Yeah, I think it is real as well.
joe rogan
I don't think it's as simple as one or the other.
I think one of the ways to kind of continue to hide it is to have our stuff, and then eventually it leaks that we have advanced technology.
But where did we get it?
And what are we emulating?
And are we in contact?
What's going on under the ocean?
Why are these things that have been documented that go 500 knots under the ocean, which is fucking insanely fast, that they can go from the ocean to the surface, outside, into space, back into the water?
Documented stuff.
We don't have that capability.
So is that ours?
Or is that some shit that comes from somewhere else?
kurt metzger
Okay.
Yes, they have it.
joe rogan
Or is it a combination of all those things?
kurt metzger
No, it's not ours.
Yes, they have it.
joe rogan
Well, it's not yours and mine, but is it Raytheon's?
You know what I'm saying?
Does the government have some sort of top-secret propulsion system that's 50 fucking years advanced from what we have now?
kurt metzger
Everything they have is about that amount of time more advanced.
And I'll bet now it's probably more.
unidentified
Probably more.
kurt metzger
Because back in the 90s?
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
Oh, you sent me the thing.
The beast system, the flying saucer that's a flying supercomputer that can spy on everyone and has those...
It's called the beast system, which the level of significance of that is unbelievable.
joe rogan
It's the Bible.
It's the mark of the beast.
kurt metzger
Look, what's the...
Here, I'll be...
Larry Ellison, I don't know if you saw his creepy ass thing.
He's like, yeah, we'll be watching everyone.
If you're a cop, you can't do that because we'll be what?
I go, you're going to be watching?
Do I get to watch you, Larry Ellison?
joe rogan
Yeah, that was the creepiest thing, the idea that no one will have any privacy, and that way everyone will behave.
kurt metzger
Except for you, right, motherfucker?
So what does God get to do?
God gets to look at everybody all the time, but you don't get to look—you can never look at God.
They're going to make themselves God.
It's real easy, and the way you do that, the way these— They're Santa Claus.
By the way, you know what set me off?
unidentified
He knows when you've been sleeping.
joe rogan
He knows when you're awake.
He knows if you've been bad or good, so be good for goodness sake.
kurt metzger
Who wrote that?
joe rogan
Some creep?
CIA? I bet the CIA wrote that song.
kurt metzger
Really?
It seems like it's been around a long time.
No, well, all those songs are all...
See, you go to school later, right?
When you have a family where you feel loved in it.
So you already have established a base reality.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
You know, when they talk about base reality, that's what it is.
It's not so cut and dry as left-right brain, but you have a masculine-feminine side so that you have parents to properly pattern those parts of your brain.
unidentified
Right.
kurt metzger
And your subconscious is the input.
It's like a network, the subconscious.
So they want to get mommy or daddy out of the house.
So you have a single parent's skull.
And then stick their dick in your subconscious forever.
That's the goal.
That's the child they're molesting is your subconscious.
To this day, I think bronies is not a natural occurrence.
I think a bunch of people that are on, like, Lexapro-type drugs, who are autistic, okay?
Who are deprived of feminine contact.
Deprived of it.
joe rogan
Yes.
kurt metzger
The kind of people that are going to know about science, and then when an Epstein character invites them to fuck paradise, they'll go.
You know, like the ancient assassins, they'll go to paradise and fuck.
And you control them.
joe rogan
Ancient assassins.
kurt metzger
You know, the assassins, that was what they do.
They knock you out with hashish.
Then you wake up in a garden with 72 virgins, all that bullshit.
joe rogan
Wait, you're confusing the shit out of me.
kurt metzger
You don't know about that?
joe rogan
Well, I know that if you're a martyr and you die, you're supposed to get 72 virgins.
kurt metzger
Well, that's the old...
Okay, that comes from the old man in the mountain.
The assassin, the term assassin.
It's in video games.
The term assassin.
joe rogan
But you're saying this is like everybody knows it, right?
Jamie, you and I are pretty balls deep in conspiracies.
I don't know what he's talking about.
kurt metzger
This is historical facts!
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm following a lot.
jamie vernon
He is everywhere, but I'm following a lot of it.
kurt metzger
Okay, these are historical facts.
joe rogan
The assassins.
jamie vernon
Checking stuff.
joe rogan
What did they do?
kurt metzger
There's a Sufi order of Islam, and the guy...
They call it The Old Man in the Mountain.
They show in the Marco Polo Netflix series.
He goes to visit The Old Man in the Mountain.
And he had assassins, like young men, you know, probably kid to teen.
And they'd smoke hashish.
That's why it's called Assassin from Hashish.
joe rogan
Really?
kurt metzger
And you're knocked out on hashish because you never smoked it before you were a kid, right?
joe rogan
Okay.
kurt metzger
Okay, and then you wake up in a paradise garden that this guy has filled with women that fuck you.
And then you...
You've got it.
They smoke some as you go to sleep.
You come out again like that's heaven.
You get 72 virgins in a garden in heaven.
joe rogan
Okay.
kurt metzger
This is a like it's more towards Shia, but I don't think Shia would they probably call him a heretic up.
I don't know is on too well, but that's that's what that's from.
The 72 virgin is not a Quran thing.
joe rogan
That's a well also it's not it doesn't mean 72 means like a fuckload.
That's what it means.
Like when you say 72, it's like if you have 72 wives, it's impossible to have that many wives.
kurt metzger
That heaven is kind of like a pussy Valhalla you get to go to.
But that comes directly from assassins.
That's to trick young men into killing people.
And so they would kill a guy and get killed doing it, and they had all these ways of doing it.
It's a historical thing.
joe rogan
And they thought they were going to go to heaven and be in that place where they had all the scrolls.
kurt metzger
So that's a very effective form of mind control.
joe rogan
Right.
Right.
kurt metzger
You know, if I can put on a show for you that you believe is real, you know, whatever it could be.
If I put enough Disney magic into it, you believe anything.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
And if I have an island, and if I can fly everybody in on private jets, and you know you're going to party with Bill Clinton and Nobel laureates.
kurt metzger
Yeah, and you get to take advantage of the kind of girls that go for you if you're a super nerd.
joe rogan
And there's other nerds there.
There's other nerds.
kurt metzger
Dude, think of these nerds, these tech nerds, the kind of women that go for them.
They're either like...
You ever see Real Genius with Val Kilmer?
And there's that chick that wants to fuck all the geniuses.
joe rogan
What is it?
kurt metzger
Real Genius with Val Kilmer from the 80s.
unidentified
Is it a movie?
kurt metzger
Yeah, from the 80s.
joe rogan
No, I didn't see it.
kurt metzger
Oh.
Anyway.
joe rogan
Did you see it, Jamie?
unidentified
I think so.
kurt metzger
But there was one girl that tries to fuck Mitch, the main character, because she fucks all the smart kids in the school.
joe rogan
God, Val Kilmer was a handsome bastard.
kurt metzger
Yeah, he plays a handsome scientist.
joe rogan
Perfect teeth.
kurt metzger
Good fucking movie, dude.
joe rogan
Really?
kurt metzger
Yeah, I really like it.
I saw it when I was really young.
But anyway, that eugenics shit, we're like, we're smart, we should breed.
You know, just like some chicks like comedians, some like musicians, some of them like super nerds, right?
So now, let's say I want to control important things like a nerd's brain, and how do I manipulate a nerd?
Well, I send pussy to him.
I make him feel cool.
Right?
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
I give him my island.
And then, I mean, listen, I mean, it's probably easier than bullying Bieber.
joe rogan
Well, it's definitely the best way if you want to push a narrative and you want, like, award-winning scientists behind your narrative.
kurt metzger
We own the science, they said.
joe rogan
If you want to own the science, you have to compromise the scientists.
kurt metzger
You're right.
I want to ask, I like Eric Weinstein when he's on here because...
I'm always trying to listen when somebody's picking up.
I watch Brian Keating all the time, and he was telling you that thing about why maybe there's no alien.
It went nowhere what he said, but I do like him.
But I want to ask all these nerds, who's paying for your scientific materialist nerd shit compartmentalized view that you have and your respective expertise?
Because here's where we're at.
All the experts told me women have dicks, and they told me a gene therapy was a vaccine.
We don't trust the shit that you went to school for, like the pat on the head, Nobel Prize horse shit.
The Nobel Prize.
Is there any more worthless fucking joke of a prize than a Nobel Prize?
You gotta be a mass murderer to get one of those.
joe rogan
Do you know the history of the Nobel Prize?
kurt metzger
Yeah, because some fucking...
Yeah, so some rich asshole could ease his conscience.
But I don't even think it's for that.
I think it's to control the fucking...
joe rogan
But no, no, no, no, no.
The guy, there was a false obituary.
They made a mistake and thought that he died and they called him the merchant of death in the obituary because he made dynamite.
So to whitewash his image, he decides to have a prize that he gives to the brightest minds.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
So his name now gets associated with the most high-achieving brilliance.
kurt metzger
Yeah, it's despicable, dude.
joe rogan
It's kind of amazing, though, because the Nobel Prize is the gold standard.
That's the thing that everybody thinks.
Oh, he's a Nobel Prize-winning scientist.
kurt metzger
It's amazing if you thought it was shit, but once I learned that, I was like, oh, this ain't shit.
It's another sweater on a dog.
Here's your pat on your head.
So why are super genius people this fucking stupid?
joe rogan
They all want status.
They're just human beings.
They all want to be the best of their group.
They all want to achieve in a way that they get awarded.
That's why everybody in Hollywood wants an Oscar.
They want to have an Oscar on their mental piece.
kurt metzger
I mean, the programming is so obvious when you look at it for two seconds, how you're trained.
From birth to be a fucking pat on the head dog.
And you're trained to like, you know, that's why Temple Grandin knows how cows think.
It's useful to have people that think like cows.
unidentified
Right.
kurt metzger
It's so useful.
You control how they breed.
You could tell them, hey, you guys are all gay now.
I don't want you breeding.
There's too many people.
You're all gay now.
Oh, I am.
unidentified
I am.
kurt metzger
Yeah, you're different sex.
Imagine how great that is to have, what do they call it, what was the term from the program?
Bioprogrammable biorobitoids, I think is what Kissinger called them.
Yeah, that's all the MKUltra shit.
joe rogan
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what?
That's what he called people that were under the spell MKUltra?
kurt metzger
Something like biorobitoids.
A robot means laborer.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
It's just a way to get slavery.
It's just a way to get back to good old slavery, which never left.
joe rogan
Well, the experiments that they did with drugs on people, that's literally what created Ted Kaczynski.
And do you remember the one where they did it in St. Louis?
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think they sprayed it off the top of a building.
kurt metzger
Yeah, they didn't even use a chemtrail.
They did it off the top of the building on the blackheads in a building, just to see.
joe rogan
But wasn't it LSD? No, that's San Francisco.
kurt metzger
This was cobalt.
joe rogan
But wait a minute.
kurt metzger
I don't remember.
It's cobalt something.
It's radioactive.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
It was to judge whether or not they would be poisoned and what level of poisoning they could survive.
kurt metzger
But it sounds Nazi-ish, don't it?
joe rogan
Super.
kurt metzger
I wonder if Dr. Green was involved.
You know who Dr. Green is, right?
joe rogan
Mengele.
One step at a time.
kurt metzger
Yeah, we brought Mengele here.
joe rogan
Before you go down, Dr. Green.
What was that experiment?
Someone told me there was one where they sprayed LSD into the atmosphere.
kurt metzger
That's San Francisco?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
San Francisco was pneumonia.
St. Louis, Doris Spates was a baby and her father died inexplicably.
She has watched her siblings die of cancer.
She survived cervical cancer.
During the Army conducted secret chemical testing in her impoverished St. Louis neighborhood in the height of the Cold War, she wonders if her own government is to blame.
In the mid-1950s and again a decade later, the Army used motorized blowers atop a low-income housing high-rise at schools and from the back of station wagons to send a potentially dangerous compound into the already hazy air in predominantly black areas of St. Louis.
Local officials were told at the time that the government was testing a smokescreen that could shield St. Louis from aerial observation in case the Russians attacked.
But in 1994, the government said the tests were part of a biological weapons program and St. Louis was chosen because it bore some resemblances to Russian cities that the U.S. might attack.
The material being sprayed was zinc, cadmium, sulfide.
kurt metzger
Cadmium.
joe rogan
Cadmium sulfide, a fine fluorescent powder.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, the Russians have black neighborhoods, I guess.
joe rogan
The new research raising greater concern about the implications of those tests.
St. Louis Community College Burmack sociology professor Lisa Marino-Taylor's research has raised the possibility that the Army perform radiation testing by mixing radioactive particles with the zinc cadmium sulfide, although she concedes there is no direct proof.
kurt metzger
Fucking jerk-off motion.
joe rogan
Right.
But if she's saying this, she must have some reasoning.
kurt metzger
Do you have weed?
joe rogan
Yeah.
But her report released last month was troubling enough that both U.S. senators from Missouri wrote to Army Secretary John McHugh demanding answers.
Wow.
kurt metzger
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
So the San Francisco one was a disease thing.
Find that, Jamie.
In the San Francisco one, they were spraying pneumonia into the clouds.
kurt metzger
Oh, good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
Well, I'm sure they've stopped doing things like that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What was the San Francisco one?
I think they had the fog coming in and they wanted to see if they could distribute a disease that way.
And so they spread a disease aerially to see how many people were infected.
kurt metzger
How many was it?
joe rogan
I don't know.
What year was that?
What year was it that they did that?
I want to say that was the 80s.
jamie vernon
What should I say?
I can't look up MK Ultra.
It's got to be something else.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
San Francisco experimented with diseases on its population.
Try that.
What do you got?
kurt metzger
I mean, they just did it to you a couple years ago.
joe rogan
1950. It was in the 80s.
Okay, United States, after secretly spraying San Francisco with SM, what is SM? In 1950, 11 patients at a city hospital contracted serratica infections, one of whom died.
The Army deemed the outbreak a coincidence and continued to use SM as a simulant in subsequent open-air tests.
kurt metzger
Operation Sea Spray!
joe rogan
That's it, Operation Sea Spray.
Okay, so a bacteria.
So U.S. Navy in 1950, U.S. Navy's secret biological warfare experiment in which Ceratia, Marcessans, and Basilius globigil.
Bacteria were sprayed over the San Francisco Bay Area in California in order to determine how vulnerable a city like San Francisco may be to a bioweapon attack, killing at least one American and sickening at least 10 more.
Imagine, let's find out how we could be vulnerable to a bioweapon on our citizens, and to protect them, we will use a bioweapon on our citizens, and we will kill people.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well, so that's the attitude is, you're cattle.
That's the attitude.
joe rogan
Based on results from monitoring equipment at 43 locations around the city, the Army determined that San Francisco had received enough of a dose for nearly all of the 800,000 residents to inhale at least 5,000 of the particles.
This is within range of the infectivity for anthrax.
kurt metzger
Isn't anthrax a cow disease?
joe rogan
I don't know, but it's...
kurt metzger
It's a cattle disease.
joe rogan
Is that what it started from?
kurt metzger
They tested cattle diseases on their cattle.
Get it?
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
The bacterium was also combined with phenol and an anthrax simulant and sprayed across Dorset by US and UK military scientists as part of the DICE trials that ran from 1971 to 75. Jesus Christ.
There's no evidence that the army had alerted health authorities before it blanketed the region with bacteria.
Crazy.
Doctors later wondered whether the experiment might be responsible for heart valve infections around the same time, as well as serious infections seen among intravenous drug users from 1960s to 1970s.
kurt metzger
Hey, I want to hear a fun one.
You know about Kuru?
joe rogan
Kuru?
No, what's that?
kurt metzger
You know, the cannibal disease you get, supposedly, from New Guinea.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
kurt metzger
You ever see that creep, his BBC interview, because he was a raging pederast?
joe rogan
No.
kurt metzger
Dude, this is another creepy-ass thing.
joe rogan
The disease is called KURU? K-U-R. Is that Jakob Krutzfeld?
kurt metzger
Yeah, put it...
Jamie Deluxe is how he says his name.
Jamie Deluxe.
joe rogan
So this is a prion disease, right?
This is the same thing as mad cow disease.
kurt metzger
Right.
So the guy that discovered how it works...
joe rogan
Isn't this just nature's way to keep you from eating people?
kurt metzger
Well, this guy uses nature's way to do things with boys.
And he's interviewed and he's going, no, they all jumped in my bed.
I mean, it's batshit.
When you go back and look at the sci-fi visionaries and the tech visionaries, boy, they really have a lot of weird things in common, which is boys or Schrodinger-like girls.
You know, the Schrodinger equation.
joe rogan
From Schrodinger.
Like young girls, you mean?
kurt metzger
Oh, he kept a diary.
He believed women shouldn't be educated past the age of 12 because their brains don't form past that.
I'm going to paraphrase the great Schrodinger.
joe rogan
What?
kurt metzger
And you might as well be with them while they're hot because they don't get any better.
You know, they're as smart as they're going to get at 12. Yeah!
joe rogan
Schrodinger.
kurt metzger
Really?
Dude, Marvin Minsky.
What do they call him?
The father AI? He's big Epstein.
joe rogan
Okay, one at a time.
Let's start with Schrodinger because this is fucking freaking me out.
Schrodinger wrote that?
What year was that?
Schrodinger's cat.
What year was that?
kurt metzger
Yeah.
Dude, I don't even know.
It goes back a ways.
Oh, there you go.
The cat is out of the bag.
This is in Forbes.
Oh, Forbes, can I read this?
It might be doing research.
joe rogan
Is Forbes okay if I... Austrian physicist Erwin Schrodinger was a pedophile.
kurt metzger
Yeah, go ahead.
Look at the article.
Really?
You don't have any more free Forbes articles for the month?
joe rogan
Why don't we have a subscription to Forbes?
We should probably have one, just for the fuck of it.
I don't mind paying those monsters.
kurt metzger
$74.99 to find out who's a pedophile.
joe rogan
Well, listen, man.
You gotta know.
Don't you think that there's some place for some journalism still online?
kurt metzger
Of course there is.
joe rogan
But is there hope for these people?
Is there hope that the Washington Post, New York Times, people like that can turn around?
unidentified
I think Alex Jones should buy CNN. I'm sure today they went buying a paywall, too, for their articles.
kurt metzger
The CIA was always deeply, you know, Mockingbird and all that shit, right?
joe rogan
Here it goes.
kurt metzger
But once Obama signed Smithmont Modernization Act, dude, they're deploying troops into the media.
Do you understand?
joe rogan
Right.
Explain that to people.
Explain that because we've talked about it before, but it was a big moment.
It was 2015, right?
kurt metzger
I thought it was 14, but...
joe rogan
Whatever.
It was in that range.
The world ended in 2012. They legalized propaganda.
kurt metzger
Yeah, so it used to be illegal to propagandize your own...
The CIA, you know, but the CIA works in other countries.
They're not Americans.
unidentified
Right.
kurt metzger
Well, after 9-11, and now they work here, and then Obama signed a thing that they can propagandize citizens.
So that means through the media.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Legally.
kurt metzger
That means bots on your Twitter.
They got deployed on Twitter and shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
And so...
joe rogan
Well, not just bots, but it might be most of the discourse.
kurt metzger
Yeah, they call it the dead internet theory.
joe rogan
It's not dead, there's living, CIA. U.S. repeals propaganda ban, spreads government-made news to Americans.
kurt metzger
What?
joe rogan
Government-made news is great.
kurt metzger
Where does it say the date?
joe rogan
That phrase, government-made news, is amazing.
You live in China.
With any other job, if you've been wrong so many times, you would get fired.
kurt metzger
Yeah, you would, wouldn't you?
joe rogan
If you lied so many times, no one would trust you to be the only people that get to distribute the news.
kurt metzger
So why do you think it still works?
joe rogan
How is that legal to propagandize American citizens with lies?
Not only that, but you don't have to tell people about it, so it doesn't have to go through an approval process?
kurt metzger
If you tell people about it, you should go stay in Russia, because we're going to try to kill you.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't tell people about it.
kurt metzger
People still hate Snowden.
There's people who think that that guy did something wrong on any level.
Yo, the oath is to you, me.
But here's what it is.
joe rogan
It's not saying you should never have intelligence agencies.
You should have intelligence agencies.
The world's a dangerous, fucking crazy place.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
But also, you gotta have rules.
kurt metzger
They should be accountable to somebody.
joe rogan
Well, you have to have rules, and one of the rules should be, you can't turn that shit on us.
That should be the rules.
You shouldn't be working in conjunction with a specific party, and your set goal is to establish a specific candidate.
And so to do that, you are going to use propaganda on the American public for a particular candidate that's running for president in the United States of America.
You are going to decide to lie and use propaganda, and it's legal.
That's crazy.
You're supposed to do that in Guatemala.
You're supposed to do that in other countries.
kurt metzger
There's supposed to be...
joe rogan
And you're not even supposed to do that.
But that's what we think you're doing.
You think you're overthrowing governments in other countries.
kurt metzger
I just don't think about it too much and move on.
I'm watching Landman later tonight.
It's a good show.
I'm on episode 5. Well, I like it because it gives you a real education from the petroleum industry.
Who pays for it?
By the way, I'm not against...
I don't think that oil is even scarce now.
I used to think that, and then I saw that Colonel Prouty thing.
See, here's what happens.
Once you get to graybeard times, that's when you're an idiot that doesn't know anything all of a sudden, right?
So Barry, who told me all this shit, that I was like, alright.
Now I understand what he was telling me, all this stuff.
But now, I've already aged out of the demographic of who gives a shit what you had to say.
joe rogan
You know, I read a book in, like, God, it was probably like the 90s, called Black Gold Stranglehold.
It's a crazy book.
I don't know if it's even been disproven because this is back in the days when I wasn't really reading things on the Internet.
I was just getting stuff from actual books.
So I didn't research whether or not this book was bullshit.
But essentially the theory was that oil is a natural process of Earth.
And it regenerates.
And that's why some wells that used to be dry now produce oil again.
The idea that it's a property of Earth that we're tapping into, and it's not as simple as, like, this is a finite resource.
Yeah, like diamonds!
Sort of, but diamonds take...
Millions and millions of years to make a diamond.
kurt metzger
But there's not a shortage.
They artificially...
joe rogan
Well, that's true.
There's not a shortage.
So if you do that for diamonds...
But the Earth is not replacing diamonds all the time.
Like, it's replacing oil.
The theory is that...
kurt metzger
Yeah, no, you're right.
joe rogan
The theory is that Earth...
You know, because Earth has a finite amount of gold, right?
It's a shockingly small amount of gold.
Have you ever seen...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What they know about it...
They actually just found some new gold in China.
So that might change that.
Because they just found a...
They found a huge amount of gold in China.
Like an enormous...
But the amount of gold physically, they've showed it on like football fields.
It's crazy.
kurt metzger
Really?
joe rogan
It's like a football field of gold.
It's like 10 feet high in the whole world.
But gold has a very unique property.
kurt metzger
What is it?
joe rogan
In that you could take a tiny, tiny piece of gold and coat this entire table.
Gold can be spread insanely thin.
That's why a lot of things are gold plated.
You know, like it looks like gold, but it's not gold.
It's like steel.
But then over that, they've got the thinnest layer.
kurt metzger
Right.
joe rogan
And the more amount of gold versus steel is like 18 karat, 24 karat.
Like the more, the purer the gold is.
But pure gold in like a form of coating things.
That's why they paint ceilings with it and shit.
kurt metzger
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It gets, you can get it insanely thin.
It's a super, super unique metal.
kurt metzger
How heavy, even a thin layer of gold, like how much heavier does it make some?
joe rogan
Oh, it must make something much heavier.
Gold's so heavy.
But what's really fascinating is that gold doesn't serve any functional purpose to evolving man, but yet in that time period, it became the number one source of currency.
Like in the time period before metal, like before we were able to make steel, and before people had, you know, electronics, gold, way, way back in the day, was the thing.
For no fucking reason.
There's all these other things that look pretty.
Like, why did we decide that this kind of metal...
kurt metzger
You told me why.
Because you can spread it thinner.
So, you know how, like, Tom Cruise has to learn to read with Play-Doh?
joe rogan
What?
kurt metzger
You know, in Scientology, he has to play...
You have to model a thing out of Play-Doh.
joe rogan
Oh, Play-Doh.
I thought you meant Play-Doh, the philosopher.
I was like, what?
kurt metzger
No, Play-Doh, the...
joe rogan
I'm so interested to see how you're going to tie this around to gold.
kurt metzger
Well, it's like, that's a, like a child, you know, play what played out.
Like, that's the metal that's the easiest to work like a child.
joe rogan
Yes, it is, but it just doesn't make sense that people would be, in the time where you needed a sword, why would you be willing to trade a piece of shiny, useless metal for something that's functional that's going to save your life?
kurt metzger
Oh, because if I'm creative, right, and I, you know, basically all this shit's the endless battle of priest versus king.
Now the engineers want in.
But the, but...
The guy that figured out how to work the gold and read and write and do that, then they started breeding the kings themselves.
That's what Egypt is.
joe rogan
I think the better version of it is the Anunnaki version.
The Anunnaki version is that human beings are the product of accelerated evolution and we're essentially designed to mine gold for this alien race that needs it to protect their environment.
kurt metzger
Because you can spread it, you can smear it all over the environment.
joe rogan
This is in Zechariah Sitchin's The Twelfth Planet.
And so what he said is that the Sumerian tablets talk about how their atmosphere was eroding, and that they needed to spray gold at their atmosphere to maintain their atmosphere.
What's crazy about that is this is exactly what these fucking eggheads are talking about doing today, by spraying reflective particles in our atmosphere.
kurt metzger
Well, because that Aradaki shit's from their cult.
joe rogan
Gold would be the perfect metal for that, is what my point is.
Gold dust can get so fine.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a very weird metal, man.
It's weird.
kurt metzger
You know, I know.
joe rogan
It's weird that we are so obsessed with it, and it doesn't really, other than, like, conductors and stuff, like, in electronics, it has a function, like, later in life.
But way longer, way, way back in the day, when you have jade and emeralds and all these other things, it should be, like, super valuable as well.
Why gold?
Why does that become the number one thing that everybody agrees we have to have?
kurt metzger
Because you can make it into shit and say it's magic.
unidentified
No, no, no, no, no, no.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
kurt metzger
You can make an atmosphere or a nice gold chain.
joe rogan
Nah, it's not enough.
It's not enough to make everybody kill people for it.
kurt metzger
Okay, it's no hawk to a coin.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're talking about this happened at the time where people had animal skins on.
You're talking about the time where people regularly just wore animal skins and made all their tools with flint.
kurt metzger
Is this before Noah's Ark?
I don't know what you're talking about.
joe rogan
When does gold start being a currency?
I'd like to know.
700 BC. 700 BC, roughly.
kurt metzger
You know what I like, the story I like of, you know, because you always hear about the Book of Enoch now?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
kurt metzger
And so they name like the different, you know, angels that, the thing of accelerating evolution.
If I read between the lines of that with my cynical eye from the COVID times, I look at that as we did bestiality experiments.
That's how I read that.
If you read like Bale Cycle and all that kind of shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I don't want to get off track here for a second though.
So this was 200 BC, so that's 2,225 years ago, right?
That's when they first started using it as currency?
Roughly 700 BC. But I thought they used it as currency in Mesopotamia, too.
I thought those kind of expensive coins...
kurt metzger
I thought it's associated with the sun and shit.
joe rogan
Well, they know that there's Roman coins that are thousands of years old, right?
kurt metzger
Is it sun-related to people back then?
I thought that's the official thing.
joe rogan
That gold was sun-related?
Look, I'm not saying that gold isn't...
Anything that's rare is probably valuable to people.
That seems to be a thing.
We like limited edition things.
People specifically like things that are hard to acquire, like we were talking about artifacts.
jamie vernon
Earlier.
joe rogan
That's part of the thing.
kurt metzger
I'll bet with gold and Trump shoes...
unidentified
Okay, here it goes.
joe rogan
5,000 years ago.
Mesopotamia.
Okay, they stamped silver and gold coins to pay armies.
So, it goes back further than that.
So, the earliest known mints...
kurt metzger
The Mesopotamian shaggle?
joe rogan
They emerged...
Okay.
The first known form of currency emerged nearly 5,000 years ago.
jamie vernon
Not necessarily gold, though.
It was just currency.
It could have been made out of...
joe rogan
Oh, you know what?
Didn't they have currency that was also like beads?
jamie vernon
Yeah, this was saying in that other article.
joe rogan
So then they switched to gold around.
So it is the same around, the same timeline.
jamie vernon
Gold became just the first exception.
kurt metzger
I think the first currency is blood.
That was the first currency is blood.
joe rogan
Okay, so it doesn't go as far back as I thought.
I thought that would make sense why we're so infatuated with gold.
Well, I don't give a shit about that.
But the Zacharias Hitchin thing, what's interesting is he wrote about that in the 1970s, and then scientists in like the 2000s started proposing it as a solution to our eroding environment.
kurt metzger
Yeah, it's interesting, isn't it?
Because he's a wild, fringe theorist, and yet, this is why I ask scientists, why do rich people, the ones that pay for you to be a scientific materialist, all your specialized knowledge, they believe in fucking Zacharias Hitchin shit?
unidentified
What?
kurt metzger
Do you ever ask yourself that?
Why do they think that?
joe rogan
A lot of people don't believe in him, though.
kurt metzger
Okay, here's what I do.
Yo, that's why you gotta read Joseph P. Farrell, I told you.
That guy's great.
Because a very interesting thing about Sitchin, his background, okay?
He got into it from his antiquing or something.
He's in Rockefeller Center.
It's like, who funded him doing all this?
joe rogan
Well, you know, it's interesting.
kurt metzger
On a Rockefeller Center.
I'll give you a hint.
It was Rockefeller Center.
So, that motherfucker was definitely into that shit.
You know?
joe rogan
That shit?
kurt metzger
Yeah, like Shirley MacLaine.
Here's an example.
Shirley MacLaine used to be like the Atlantis celebrity, right?
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
She was one of the first famous ladies to go a little nutty.
kurt metzger
Well, see, that's how they frame it.
Oh, remember that one time that happened?
But actually, a bunch of these people are like that.
And they're smart enough not to jump around on a couch like Tom Cruise.
They're smart enough not to do that.
Such as Nelson Rockefeller.
Dude, if you want to get power, okay, it's not that you believe necessarily in anything, but what's the thing that might get me power?
And I'll do anything.
joe rogan
She claims to have lived a past life in Atlantis two million years ago.
kurt metzger
So she dates you to two million.
joe rogan
She says she experienced memories of this past life while filming the 2016 movie Wild Oats in the Canary Islands.
McLean wrote about her experiences in her 2016 memoir, Above the Line, My Wild Oats Adventure.
kurt metzger
What does that mean?
Was she banging?
Was she on a sex store?
Is that what that means?
joe rogan
I don't know what that means.
kurt metzger
Sowing your wild oats is a sex store.
joe rogan
But if you know actresses...
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, how many of them are out of their fucking minds?
So, like, this is not shocking that someone would say they lived in Atlantis two million years ago.
Like, two million years ago, we weren't even people yet.
kurt metzger
Well, first of all, that's not how she remembers it, number one.
joe rogan
Right, but we know that, right?
So this is why she's just a kook.
kurt metzger
Well, Shirley MacLaine says something different.
joe rogan
She had a dream.
She had a very vivid dream.
kurt metzger
Okay, so actors, as you know, especially, like, method acting you hear about, where they go in character and they're gone, right?
So how do you develop a talent like that?
You have to be able to dissociate out of your fucking body.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, for sure.
kurt metzger
So that's how you get those kind of memories.
joe rogan
Well, you probably have a detached connection to reality when you're a really good actor.
Because you're so good at becoming this other person.
It's almost like you're throwing yourself into another body, another soul, another life.
kurt metzger
Yeah, you'll see people...
Like, that are religious make it like they're possessed by a thing.
But I'm like, I don't see really a big difference.
joe rogan
They get possessed by a character.
Like, Daniel Day-Lewis in There Will Be Blood.
kurt metzger
Yes!
joe rogan
That guy is possessed by that character.
Like, I bet he created a past for that guy.
Of course.
And had, like, moments that he made.
kurt metzger
He was cobbling shoes and thinking through the fucking There Will Be Blood guy.
joe rogan
Out of his fucking mind.
kurt metzger
Yeah, but so...
That's what a lot of stuff is.
You just take the power of that.
joe rogan
I know, but you went on a long, circuitous route from Zechariah Sitchin.
I want to go back to the Zechariah Sitchin thing, because I had that guy, Wesley Huff, who's a Bible scholar.
kurt metzger
Yeah, I saw it.
joe rogan
Very interesting guy.
kurt metzger
Yes, I think he is.
joe rogan
Very intelligent guy.
He doesn't believe that Sitchin could really read Sumerian.
kurt metzger
Oh, yeah.
You were telling me that no one can read Sumerian.
joe rogan
Well, this is what he was saying.
And this is a guy that speaks and knows many languages and is a legitimate expert in ancient Bible texts.
In Aramaic, he was explaining the difference between Arcadian and Sumerian and cuneiform.
He's a legitimate language expert.
And he said, I learned all these other languages, but Sumerian was so hard.
It just doesn't work.
I just couldn't figure it out.
And he said, I don't think that Zacharias Hitchin could read it.
I think a lot of people say they could read it and they're lying.
He says, I think there's very few people that can actually read Sumerian text.
kurt metzger
Who can?
joe rogan
I don't know.
unidentified
He.
kurt metzger
I'd like to ask him who can do it.
joe rogan
I mean, there's courses you can take, but he says it's insane to grasp because it's not connected to any other languages.
He's like, there's a lot of these languages that are similar to other languages, and you can find patterns in them.
He's like, it's so nuts.
So when even we're getting a translation of the Epic of Gilgamesh, which was in, I think that was in Arcadian, right?
kurt metzger
Arcadian, yeah.
joe rogan
Arcadian, brother.
kurt metzger
That's before Sumerian or after?
joe rogan
After they conquered Sumer and their languages sort of intertwined, he explained.
But who the fuck knows?
No one even knows what any of those words sounded like.
No one can say it out loud, which is so nuts.
That language is so gone that you can't say it out loud.
So when someone like Zechariah Sitchin comes along and he has detailed explanations for all the things that happened and that this planet called Nibiru had these beings called the Anunnaki who come to Earth and they genetically engineer humans and they knew about our solar system and all this.
I don't know how he's getting that because other people aren't getting the same thing.
And there's a website called sitchiniswrong.com.
And so I don't even know if this guy's right.
This is the problem.
I think this stuff is so weird.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
The earliest versions of the origin story of humanity are so weird that I don't think anybody really totally understands how to interpret them properly.
kurt metzger
I think there are lots of little groups that think that they have the ancient knowledge of it.
unidentified
Right.
kurt metzger
And it's almost like a...
Scientology Xenu scam.
joe rogan
Right, right.
kurt metzger
You know, like a, what do you call it?
Mystery school.
That's the ancient.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
kurt metzger
Okay.
So all that is is a religion where I don't tell you what the belief is until you, like, are in too deep to not believe it.
joe rogan
Right.
It's like that movie Going Clear when the writer, was it Paul Haggis, when he gets to like the top levels and then he reads the fucking handwritten notes.
He's like, what kind of horse shit?
kurt metzger
Dude, so how I got into looking into that shit was I was like, okay, really wealthy people.
I don't mean, I don't think Elon's the richest man in the world.
I mean like the real, like trillionaires.
Like what's their, what is their Scientology that they're into?
I just want to know that.
And it's very similar.
Like, Scientology is almost a knock-off, light version of the real thing.
So they make it like, oh, it's the most sophisticated brainwashing.
No, it ain't.
It's just one of many.
It's just one of many.
joe rogan
Well, I think for a lot of people, it helps them become successful.
I think having a religious framework helps you become successful.
I think it's one of the keys to these Dagestan fighters in the UFC. Yes!
Yeah, they're so religious and devout that they're so disciplined that they don't deviate from the path at all.
And because of that, they just keep winning.
kurt metzger
Yeah, so my question is, who gave these priests back in the day the sheet of passcodes of one weird trick to get in her pants?
That's some kind of ancient knowledge that these motherfuckers have.
Oh, I'll tell you another great channel is Windows on the World.
You know Wallace Budge, the guy that supposedly Indiana Jones, I guess, is supposed to be based on?
joe rogan
No.
kurt metzger
Oh, well, he wrote a...
Malice has the book.
It's Egyptian black magic or something.
And it's all about crowd control.
And so all the pharaoh headdress, all that ridiculous shit they wear, there's a bunch of priests that are...
Inbreeding, it's almost like Dune.
In Dune, the Bene Gesserits were breeding the fucking people.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
kurt metzger
That's that.
And you spend your whole day preparing for your death as the pharaoh.
And if you actually read the Book of the Dead, it's out of three amigos.
It's like then the burning bush and you shoot your gun in the air.
Remember three amigos?
joe rogan
Uh-huh.
kurt metzger
It's ridiculous.
It's busy work.
And so you got an OCD culture now that you got to, but I have to do this and this and this and this for when I get to cross the river.
Niall and the crocodile man asked me the three questions.
They would just do this pointless homework, okay?
And the priest controlled that.
So I want to know where the priests got the method of control from because I think that's what the big secret is that the Templars got is how to control crowds.
And I think that because it's so obvious like all the sports is that everything is a little pattern thing to like just keep you on the wheel of samsara forever.
joe rogan
That does make sense if you're talking about like the Egyptian story of like going into the afterlife and all that stuff like they have it all mapped out.
We got all the information.
Relax.
Go to work.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
And then meanwhile, the priest...
And then so this guy had a great...
I think his name is Mark Windows.
Anyway, he had a great...
Something he said I thought about a lot, which is Akhenaten.
So Akhenaten, when he introduced monotheism, here's a way you can look at it.
The industry of all these gods of polytheism had gotten so bloated, like the government had gotten bloated of priests where you're worshiping every little rock.
Right?
And he was like, hey, look, we know there's the main god.
He's like trying to cut government down.
That was his big crime that they buried him backwards.
And his weird-shaped head, yeah, he could be alien.
Or they could have inbred him like a Habsburg.
I don't know if you know what happens, but people start to look like fucking aliens after you inbreed them enough.
You know?
And then you tie their skull up or whatever the fucking weird shit is.
So I think his big crime was crossing the deep state of his time, kind of.
I kind of think that.
What I want to know is, who are these people that have, they know the weird trick to do this and that, and they think that they're entitled to do it all the time?
Like, what is that religion?
joe rogan
Well, I think anybody that's in power thinks they should stay in power.
Like a mayor that's getting voted out.
They think they should stay in power.
Everybody who's in power wants to stay in power because that's the game.
The game is to get to the top.
The game is to get to the top where you're the one who gets it.
Ladies and gentlemen, the mayor of Dallas, Texas, Bob Smith.
And he gets up there and says hi to everybody.
It's the mayor.
It's our mayor.
He wants to stay that guy.
kurt metzger
The Koreans call it squid games, Joe.
Have I told you about hot to a coin?
joe rogan
But that's what it is.
It's just a normal thing.
And once you're in power, you want to stay in power.
And that's what...
What we saw during this This whole election.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Was that the people that were in power, we got to see it wasn't even the guy.
We thought it was the guy.
We thought the guy wants to get in power, so he's got the staff.
kurt metzger
People are like, that's okay.
joe rogan
It wasn't even the guy.
It was the people around the guy that we didn't vote for.
This is crazy.
kurt metzger
If you're like a more sophisticated, like NPR type fucking loyal Democrat, that's the kind of people that know that and think it's good.
Like, no, it's who he has around him that really counts.
Oh, the ones I didn't vote for?
joe rogan
That's, it's so.
It's so crazy to say that a giant group of people that can easily be manipulated behind the scenes are now in control of everything, and they just slide executive orders into front of this senile man who was deemed not fit to stand for trial.
kurt metzger
Well, that's what the problem with running a pyramid scheme is, you know, you're recruiting narcissists, sociopaths, the people that really succeed.
joe rogan
Are you talking about Hawk to a coin?
Is that what you meant?
Is that a veiled reference?
kurt metzger
No.
Hawk to a coin is strictly for Sigma, Grindset, Alphas.
joe rogan
What about Melania coin?
kurt metzger
Dude, how wouldn't I get some Melania?
joe rogan
How much do you think Melania coin is going for these days?
kurt metzger
Probably a lot.
Yo, if Trump keeps promises, I'll bet the coin will go up.
joe rogan
This is the way they'll compromise me.
They'll come to me with a JRE coin idea.
And they'll explain to me.
kurt metzger
There's still NFTs out there, dude.
joe rogan
That was the best one.
That one was like, you can't do it.
You can't explain it to me in a way that makes sense.
The only thing that makes sense is Beeple, because that's an NFT, but it's actually digital art.
kurt metzger
Beeple?
joe rogan
That guy.
The guy who made the gig of Chad.
The Elon Musk that's jacked.
If you haven't seen that?
kurt metzger
Never.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
We should probably have that on the desk again.
Was it distracting?
Is that why we took it off the desk?
jamie vernon
It's only ever been here.
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I thought we had it on the desk unplugged when he gave it to us.
Yeah, you're right.
It never was on the desk.
But also, that's the Shibu Inu.
kurt metzger
Oh, I see.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
Wow.
joe rogan
That Shibu Inu coin, how much is that worth right now?
This is what we were talking about before, that if you put $1,000 into it when you started, it's worth a shitload of money now.
And I'm like, is that real money or is that like...
Dogecoin and this coin and fucking mean coin.
kurt metzger
It's all magic, Joe.
joe rogan
Right, but that's what I'm saying.
Like, is the $36 billion that bought the Trump coin, is that real money?
Or is that a bunch of, did you sell Shibu Inu coin to buy the Trump coin?
Did you trade it in Trump?
I mean, what is that?
What's going on?
kurt metzger
Well, if you do...
I mean, look...
joe rogan
But is that ultimately good?
Is it ultimately good to have cryptocurrencies that no one's in control of?
Maybe they're all volatile and crazy and moving all over the place, but it's not a central bank that's dictating the interest rates and telling you what you can do.
You know what I mean?
It's not something called...
kurt metzger
Okay, let me ask you this.
How can I check to see that it's not controlled?
unidentified
Look at these giant spikes where people just fucking cash out.
joe rogan
2021. So 2021, it was worth how much?
jamie vernon
A lot more than it is now.
joe rogan
$7?
jamie vernon
That's a 24-hour volume.
There was $8 billion traded that day.
joe rogan
Okay.
So what is it worth at that time?
jamie vernon
I mean, it's .000000645 cents.
kurt metzger
Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
joe rogan
So why did I read that thing about people that if you bought it at a certain point in time?
jamie vernon
If you bought here, which was January of last year.
joe rogan
No, I think they were saying if you bought at the beginning.
jamie vernon
Well, yeah, it just depends on what day you bought.
If you bought this date.
You're fucked.
joe rogan
But if you bought $1,000 worth at the beginning, what's that worth now?
Can you calculate that?
jamie vernon
No, I don't know.
I don't know.
It's a lot.
joe rogan
The point was, in this stupid thing, was they were just talking about the volatility of these meme coins, how crazy it is, and that some of them actually proved to be profitable.
And so the question is, we have so many of them already.
What's to stop people from doing it or their rule?
I could see someone saying it's unbecoming for a president to make a big money grab and start a meme coin.
That I could see.
I see that argument.
But my question is, who's allowed to make them?
If you have a Shibu Inu coin and a Dogecoin, you have a Hakutu coin, how many of them are there?
Let's find that out.
How many meme coins are there out there?
And what's the rules?
I'm not saying that anybody should or shouldn't be doing this.
I want to be real clear.
What I'm saying, what is going on here?
And how easy is it to make one of these things?
And can anybody do that?
Anybody can do that.
So isn't that fucking weird?
And is that weird and bad, or is it weird and different, or is it better?
Than having a central bank that's controlled by something that's supposed to be the Federal Reserve, but it's not federal.
kurt metzger
Okay, so you brought up gold, right?
unidentified
Right.
kurt metzger
So here's the phases of magic.
First, gold is alchemy, and then dollars, which is sigil magic, and now conjuration, where we conjure it out of nothing.
joe rogan
Right, you can make a coin.
And if you're the president, you can make a coin.
You make $36 billion off that coin in a day or two.
Or it's worth it.
Or it was, and it went up and down.
jamie vernon
That's where it gets real tough, because he can't cash out.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
If he cashed out, it would fall apart.
joe rogan
But couldn't you use that money that's in that account to get loans off of and stuff?
jamie vernon
You'd have to use it that day while it's still that valuable.
And no one, you know, a smart person wouldn't do that.
joe rogan
But imagine if you have Trump coin.
Let's imagine.
I'm not saying that anyone's doing this.
But let's say we do a JRE coin.
And the JRE coin is worth $3 billion.
And we decide, okay, we're going to take some of that money and not sell the coin, but use it as collateral for a loan to build a $2 million new studio.
jamie vernon
Not for that, but essentially that's what the projects are supposed to be for.
They're launching a coin almost as a fundraiser, as a new way to be like a stock.
But it's just not a stock.
joe rogan
That's what Trump, that's what they're saying.
Okay, well that makes sense.
jamie vernon
Everybody's got their own plans.
joe rogan
That does make sense, because then you're essentially crowdfunding the organization, and as long as he's not selling the coins, the question is like, when does it become a problem?
First of all, no one's making you buy into this.
So it is what you say.
It's legal gambling.
Because you're putting money in thinking you're going to get more money.
You're going to be able to find a moment where you're going to cash out.
And I know a guy who got fucked doing that.
Where his guy sold it at the wrong time and he lost a shitload of money.
kurt metzger
Oh, I thought you were going to say he got cheated by the coin wallet he was invented.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
He got fucked because he was trying to cash out and he missed it.
kurt metzger
Look, you're just not backed up.
If something goes wrong, you don't have to back up.
That's the backup that you supposedly have with the other one.
That's, to me, the main thing.
But at the end of the day, you're going to be part of the new Technocracy, Inc., energy currency.
You know, Technocracy, Inc., the Canadian techno, where the guys wore gray suits, and the whole thing was you're going to have energy credits.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
You always hear, and it splintered into a lot of things.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
You know?
That's what Elon's grandpa was in, where they gave people number names that sound like, let me say kid name numbers.
XH, they would do that.
unidentified
Yeah.
kurt metzger
But his grandfather left the guy's...
The guy was like kind of a phony and a loser, the main face man of it.
Mm-hmm.
But you still hear...
The Technate, you heard of that?
joe rogan
No, but isn't that a weird thing about people is that there's always, always...
In every fucking stretch of the earth, someone figures out like a system where there's a group of rules and laws and there's gods and it controls people.
kurt metzger
You know why?
Because human nature is not good or bad.
It's programmability.
And so the first guy to figure that out is the guy that got to be the first priest, I bet.
And maybe he didn't figure it out.
Maybe somebody told him.
joe rogan
Well, that's how you turn someone into a soldier.
kurt metzger
That's how you turn them into whatever you need.
That's why we have the Prussian school of school.
The teachers aren't there to know...
You're like, oh, these teachers can't even pass an English test and they teach English.
Well, just so you know, the system was set up not for them to know shit.
The system was set up with psychological things.
So whatever rich guy is in charge that week, that's the psych...
So remember Common Core that everybody...
All the liberals complained about Common Core.
I don't have kids, so I didn't know how bad it was.
But...
That's the Bill and Melinda Gates are going to be educating you now, Foundation's fucking thing.
And it's all psychology.
They don't give a shit if you learn anything.
They give a shit if you're going to be a problem.
And the reason I know is they wrote it down openly.
John Taylor Gatto, all his books about education.
Unbelievable.
If you thought the Fauci book was interesting, wow.
joe rogan
Really?
kurt metzger
Yeah, John Taylor Gatto.
He wrote a good essay called Against School.
And so the history of it...
People get old and die out.
You got a new generation of suckers born that don't even remember, right?
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
But yeah, there were people shooting at the feds when they instituted public school.
joe rogan
The whole idea of having someone like Rockefeller figure out the education system is so wild.
kurt metzger
Carnegie helped.
Don't think it was an autocracy.
joe rogan
Right.
There was a few people involved.
kurt metzger
A bunch of plutocrats.
joe rogan
They had a design.
And that design could have been different.
And who knows what we'd be like if it was.
But here's the other thing.
I think there's some aspect of school forcing you to sit in those classes, forcing you to pay attention, but there's some aspect of that that really gives you the motivation to not live that life.
kurt metzger
Well, that's how I felt.
joe rogan
That's how I felt.
kurt metzger
I went in, when I went to school, I already could read.
And so I was more fully, how you describe that thing?
Now, I was still pretty, I remember, like, crying because I couldn't get in line.
I didn't know the deal.
joe rogan
But don't you think that's what makes, like, musicians, comics, artists, that's what makes, it's like the resistance to want to be in that world.
kurt metzger
Oh, you know what I think it is?
It's like, you know when they say how foie gras is made?
It's only bad foie gras is made this way, but all the geese are like this.
And they're just force-feeding poison into them to make their liver soft.
joe rogan
It's just grain.
They're giving them grain so they overeat.
kurt metzger
It's not how good foie gras is made at all.
They treat them well or it wouldn't be good.
joe rogan
Do you know that the ducks actually walk over to the feeder?
Do you know they want that to happen?
They want to have full bellies?
It's gross that they do it the way they do it.
But the ducks want it to happen.
kurt metzger
No, I know.
But look, I'm just saying...
The imaginary way?
joe rogan
Bourdain told me that.
I'm like, no way.
He showed me a video.
kurt metzger
I was like, this is crazy.
Village Voice had an article years ago about it, and the guy was like, look, if it was different, I'd tell you, but I'm telling you what I just saw.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
But we're not in that good system.
We're the ones from the story like this, and they force poisons in you, and then sometimes you lay golden eggs, and that's what it is.
You're a medium.
You're a big, like a water balloon filled with blood.
You know, I make snake venom where they bite the horse and they use the horse's hormones to make...
Well, people are good.
That's how we probably invented medicine, was using people with venom and then taking their fluids and making drugs out of it and shit.
unidentified
What?
kurt metzger
Yeah.
You never heard of this?
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
kurt metzger
How medicine was invented?
joe rogan
Well, it was mostly...
The Rockefeller method was they were using oil, right?
Wasn't that like he converted pharmaceutical drugs to petroleum-based production?
kurt metzger
How about a little gold in it?
joe rogan
Wasn't that like under his direction?
kurt metzger
Oh, yeah.
No, that's...
Dude, these eugenics didn't come from the Nazis.
It came from us.
It came from our billionaires.
And they're real into it.
joe rogan
Right now, RFK Jr. is having his hearings.
kurt metzger
Oh, dude.
He's interfering.
Again, New World Order, not Alex Jones.
That's the thing they said openly.
Bill Clinton said it.
You could tell who the whole gang is because they all said it.
Then they change it to the rules-based international order.
Every stupid parrot phrase, I can never get out of my head now.
Do you know what I mean?
Like going back, Iraq, the terrorists go to the sound of the guns.
That fucking shit about why Iraq was a good idea?
Because instead of attacking us, the terrorists will attack the soldiers in Iraq.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
Because they go to the sound of the guns.
And you hear it three times and now it's a fact.
Democracy's on the ballot.
And then if I've been pre-primed properly with some good MK retard programming and I hear democracy on the ballot, I react differently than your old people that still watch CNN who are just like, I heard democracy's on the ballot.
I might be triggered to go Sirhan, Sirhan.
Remember all those guys that went to kill Trump?
Remember how weird they were?
unidentified
Yeah.
kurt metzger
The guy with two different color hair.
joe rogan
Well, the first guy is the weird one because the first guy had like five phones.
His house was professionally scrubbed.
There was no silverware in his house.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
He had no online social media profile and he was 20 years old.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he was in a BlackRock commercial.
And there was some sort of metadata from a phone that traveled from outside of the FBI offices in D.C. to him on multiple occasions.
kurt metzger
Those folks were behavior modification therapists.
Is that weird?
I mean, I don't want to tell tales out of school.
Yeah, that's odd.
joe rogan
It's a girl.
I mean, that guy was the perfect Lee Harvey Oswald.
They'd scrubbed his past.
There was nothing there.
But you know how nutty that is if he pulled that off?
We're in an alternative timeline.
We're in an alternative timeline.
kurt metzger
Seems like the same old timeline to me.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no, no.
The timeline took two big shifts.
Marc Andreessen brought this up, and I think he's totally right.
The first big shift was Elon buying Twitter.
That was a big shift.
The second big shift was that bullet missing Trump.
Those are giant shifts.
kurt metzger
Different timelines.
joe rogan
Because then he wins.
And then when he wins, and then now he's trying to figure out what the fuck is going on.
kurt metzger
Look, it was all foretold in the Illuminati card game.
I don't know if anybody knows about that card game.
joe rogan
Did you see that thing that I sent you?
I think I sent you, Jamie, where they were explaining how this new technology's mapped out 55,000 NGOs.
Did I show it to you last night?
kurt metzger
Yeah, it looked like the galaxy.
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
What's an NGO? Non-government organization.
kurt metzger
So that's the shadow government.
joe rogan
So the government is funding non-government organizations.
This is what's nutty.
So Fractal Technology Maps...
Previously hidden connections between 55,000 liberal NGOs revealing how tax dollars allegedly flow through major institutions like Vanguard and Morgan Stanley to groups like the Chinese Progressive Association.
This breakthrough tracking system can now monitor every dollar going to every NGO, exposing intricate funding webs that traditional tech couldn't detect.
Example, Black Voters Matter Fund's $4 million distribution network was invisible.
Until quantum mapping revealed dozens of subsidiary organizations.
The unprecedented mapping reveals a previously hidden web of financial relationships.
So if you look at this crazy web of financial relationships and what is being done with all this money, it's just like shell corporations.
It's like this convenient way to hide where all the money's coming from.
And then this was a big part of what you were saying, like how much Kamala Harris spent in the one- $1.5 billion.
A lot of it was to groups.
A lot of it was to NGOs.
kurt metzger
Literally gets their payout.
joe rogan
The most egregious example, whether it's true or not, we haven't been able to substantiate that celebrities were paid to endorse her publicly.
kurt metzger
It just looked like it from their faces and how they performed.
joe rogan
It looked weird.
Like the Beyonce thing was weird.
People thought they were gonna go see Beyonce perform and Beyonce talks for 10 minutes and makes 10 million dollars.
kurt metzger
Hey, have Beyonce and don't have her do the thing.
Have her tell you her feelings and then leave really quick.
joe rogan
Yeah, have her tell you how to vote without singing.
But also, it's like, did you really do that?
Like, did you really, once more?
Did you really fucking pay someone?
And is that legal?
To pay someone to endorse you?
That seems crazy.
kurt metzger
It sure is.
joe rogan
To get a famous person.
It's one thing you want to endorse a Toyota.
This is my truck.
I really love these Toyota Tundras.
They're so reliable.
It's an awesome car.
But it's another thing to endorse a political candidate and to be paid for it openly.
That seems crazy.
kurt metzger
But we're fighting against Trump.
Don't you understand Trump?
joe rogan
50 Cent turned down Donald Trump's $3 million offer to perform at Madison Square Garden.
kurt metzger
He still wants him Chelsea Handler blowjobs, still.
That's how I read that.
joe rogan
So I guess what this is saying is that the Republicans do it as well, but this isn't endorsing him.
This is just performing.
kurt metzger
I hope nobody has party loyalty here, because you are a chump if you do.
You cannot go by the...
Look, we don't even know what a woman is.
How are you supposed to know what a Republican is?
joe rogan
Well, also, that's not like a good audience for 50 Cent, to be clear.
jamie vernon
He said it on a radio show, and afterwards, Trump officials or people on the campaign said that that was not true.
kurt metzger
Oh, yeah, you have to also figure in they might just be saying bullshit.
Boy, I'm getting sick of that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, someone knows the truth.
There's got to be paperwork.
You know?
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's got to be paperwork.
kurt metzger
I mean, I love the constellation.
We had to use a quantum computer to figure out.
Would you see Planet Biden family over in the other quadrant of the...
joe rogan
Of all that money.
kurt metzger
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
It's so weird that it's legal.
They just flow money around.
And I think that's a part of this whole spending freeze, right?
Isn't that a part of this whole government spending freeze?
kurt metzger
Yeah, well, I mean, look, I could believe that it's so out of hand that you had to invent an AI to figure out how much money's being stolen.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Isn't that nice?
kurt metzger
I can believe that, but Richard Grove from Grand Theft World Podcast has drawn a map of the connections, and his are like, they're not like a cult or something.
He just did all the research and has a map of it, and you can see all the little groups.
They really do multiply like that.
Like, they fractal.
joe rogan
That's wild.
It's just so wild that there's so many of them.
They do multiply and it creates this ecosystem of people that are there to support a very specific thing because their livelihood depends on it.
kurt metzger
A pyramid, if you will.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, this is another thing.
Did this happen or did someone propose banning federal workers from posting on social media?
And this was to prevent astroturfing.
They'll get around it.
But this is the idea.
The idea is there's no federal funds can be spent.
Paying a federal employee and that federal employee then pushes propaganda.
kurt metzger
Wait, but I thought we have, you know, military to do that for us.
joe rogan
The idea is they're going to stop political parties from doing that.
They're going to say that you can't do that anymore.
So you can't, you can't astroturf.
You can't, like, send a bunch, you hire a bunch of people that send a bunch of things and you're paying them.
Because they do pay social media influencers.
You know that, right?
They've offered to pay people to endorse.
jamie vernon
When I Googled it, stuff about the hat chat keeps popping up.
joe rogan
In general, all federal employees may use social media and comply with the Hatch Act.
If they remember the following three prohibitions, on duty or in the workplace prohibition, employees may not engage in political activity while on duty or in the federal workplace.
But they can do it when they get it home.
I think this was something that Trump proposed.
kurt metzger
Oh.
joe rogan
So pull that up.
Yeah, Trump.
Trump's first order.
Hit workers, construction, AG, federal...
No.
See if you find anything on that.
Because someone was talking about it last night at the club, and I said, I got to find out if that's real.
That sounds crazy.
And they were saying that it was to prevent astroturfing.
But if you say that federal employees, including like congresspeople, they can't...
AOC can't post on Twitter, that's crazy.
kurt metzger
Yo, get rid of the FISA court.
Here's some things on the list that I hope that he's going to do.
I hope.
The FISA court thing that, you know, Tulsi had to be like, no, I'm for it now to maybe get appointed.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
And I think they're not buying she's for it or something.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Don't you think that, like, the solution is that, of course, everyone can post on social media because you have to be able to explain yourself.
And to limit someone's ability to explain themselves while they're a federal employee, that's a weapon that you could use against somebody.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
So they all have to be able to.
But they should probably have to only post with their site.
That probably should be a law.
Like, they can't have sock puppet accounts.
They can't have bots.
They can't hire a bunch of people to post stuff for them.
That should be the thing.
kurt metzger
If you're in that Smith-Munt Modernization Act deployed to do that, you're just compartmentalizing it so this one group can't do it.
But don't worry.
The intel community is still going to do it.
joe rogan
This is the question.
Should there be a law against hiring a bunch of people to pretend that they're regular people and post stuff for you?
You know?
I mean, should there be a law?
kurt metzger
I guess I have to go over it.
Look, I hate dishonest motherfuckers, so my knee-jerk reaction is, of course there should be, but I'm sure, like with every goddamn thing, like when I was really for the Patriot Act because I was such a patriot, it turned out it wasn't about patriotism.
It was about spying on you.
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
I found this is nothing about a band, but this is something along the lines of what you're saying.
Tweet about something like this.
joe rogan
What is it?
jamie vernon
A subreddit called FedNews found that daily activity on their subreddit is high during the middle of the day.
kurt metzger
Oh, they're working from home?
Is that what they're saying?
jamie vernon
Paying federal employees to post on Reddit.
kurt metzger
Make them come to the office.
You'll fix half of that.
jamie vernon
There's screenshots from...
joe rogan
Federal workers post...
Stop.
Go back.
I couldn't see it.
Federal workers posting their strategy to clog up...
The works in revolt embodies exactly why the U.S. population is so eager to jettison so many of them.
jamie vernon
I don't know how true this is, but...
joe rogan
Well, I'm sure it's...
Well, there's a lot of people that are complaining about having to go back to work.
kurt metzger
The act of simple sabotage.
I mean, it's like these people don't need to read it.
You've lived it yourselves.
joe rogan
Go back to that?
What is it saying?
The act of simple sabotage?
kurt metzger
Yeah, you've seen how to, like...
joe rogan
Put it up again?
The CIA has you covered with their Art of Simple Sabotage Manual.
The main points can also be found here in case you would rather not be accessing a sabotage manual hosted by a spy organization's website when said organization is now part of whatever the hell this administration is.
kurt metzger
Oh, they were good before.
joe rogan
To summarize further for anyone too lazy to click either link, organizations and conferences, insist on doing everything through channels, never permit shortcuts to be taken in order to expedite decisions, make speeches, talk as frequently as possible and at great length, illustrate talk as frequently as possible and at great length, illustrate your points by long anecdotes and accounts of personal experiences.
When possible, refer all matters to committees for further study and consideration.
Attempt to make...
The committee as large as possible, never less than five, bring up irrelevant issues as frequently as possible.
How wild is this?
Haggle over precise wording of communications, minutes, resolutions.
Refer back to matters decided upon at the last meeting and attempt to reopen the question of the advisability of that decision.
This is crazy.
kurt metzger
Well, that's an old manual that they're passing around online now.
It's been out for a while.
And see how it accurately describes everything that's going on around you?
joe rogan
Advocate caution, be reasonable, and urge your fellow conferees to be reasonable and avoid haste, which might result in embarrassment or difficulties later on.
kurt metzger
Wait, I thought the Soviets were doing this.
joe rogan
This is so crazy.
kurt metzger
Yeah, remember the speech by the Soviets demoralized us?
So what is this called?
These motherfuckers.
jamie vernon
This is like another Reddit post about federal workers or something like that.
And that's what I was trying to...
joe rogan
In making work assignments, always sign out the unimportant jobs first.
See that important jobs are assigned to inefficient workers.
kurt metzger
Oh.
Boy, this works really well in the fire department.
joe rogan
This is so crazy!
kurt metzger
The L.A. Fire Department really could use this info.
joe rogan
Is this real?
kurt metzger
Yeah, this is old, though.
You didn't know about this?
joe rogan
What is it called again?
kurt metzger
It's like a manual to overthrow countries for the CIA. I understand.
jamie vernon
This is comments on a post that someone even commented on another post, and that's what I've got to figure out.
joe rogan
Right, but what is it titled when you click on the first one?
Yeah, that one.
jamie vernon
Supervisor told us to stop posting on Reddit?
joe rogan
The CIA, no, the Simple Sabotage Act.
jamie vernon
Oh, that's not...
joe rogan
The Art of Simple Sabotage Manual.
But this was the manual.
So what we're reading is straight from the manual.
The Art of Simple Sabotage Manual.
It seems like a way to clog up the gears of society.
And look, if you're a George Soros type character and you're funding these ultra-liberal progressive DAs to leak crime back out onto the streets and be as lenient as possible.
That would be a way to do the same kind of thing.
kurt metzger
Yeah, such as him.
joe rogan
The same thing is keeping the border open.
Don't check no one.
Let the gangs in.
Have sanctuary cities where you don't even arrest the gangs.
kurt metzger
How much do they got to do it on purpose before you figure it out?
joe rogan
Well, it seems so on purpose when Trump cleans it up like that.
kurt metzger
That's when you know!
joe rogan
That's when you know.
The art of simple sabotage.
So this is on the CIA's website.
So Jamie, now your computer is fucked.
I can't believe you clicked that link, you son of a bitch.
kurt metzger
Dude, they tell you the stuff they do all the time.
That's the thing.
Nothing is classified.
I mean, it is, but it's not.
They tell you.
They tell you.
joe rogan
So they were teaching people to do their jobs badly.
OSS, it's like when you're on a union job and they're like, hey, slow down.
kurt metzger
It's mafia.
It's all the mafia.
Everything's mafia.
Those are mafia tactics.
Rules for Radicals, you ever read that book?
unidentified
Yes.
kurt metzger
Glenn Beck used to bring it up, but the way he made those people fart a lot in the theater.
It was like the end of dirty work.
joe rogan
Yeah.
This is really interesting.
Telephone.
At the office, hotel, or at telephone switchboards, delay putting calls through, give out wrong numbers, cut people off accidentally, or forget to disconnect them so that the line cannot be used again.
kurt metzger
Yeah, we have AI to do that now.
joe rogan
They were doing this, like, way back in the day, trying to make things work shitty.
kurt metzger
It's demoralizing, isn't it?
joe rogan
It's demoralizing, and it keeps people from figuring out that you're doing something.
kurt metzger
Yeah, if you live in East Palestine, Ohio, I bet that was pretty demoralizing.
joe rogan
What a fucking bizarre world we live in that this stuff is being revealed now for the first time in mainstream life.
Because all throughout history, if you were talking like this, if we were in the 80s and you were talking like this, you were a fucking crazy person.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well, here's what's funny.
The term conspiracy theory, lest we all forget, came out of Alan Dulles at the CIA after they murdered JFK. And he told his minions in the press to keep saying conspiracy theory.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
So that's where we got that from the...
I mean, that's mind-blowing.
joe rogan
Yeah, and people didn't want to be labeled a fool, so you didn't want to be labeled a conspiracy theorist, and so it shut down the conversation.
kurt metzger
Well, Diddy should tell that to the judge when he goes in on his RICO. Your Honor, this is just a conspiracy theory.
How come that's a crime you could be prosecuted for?
I call it a collusion theory.
Remember they started saying collusion?
Because they burned the word conspiracy.
So they had to say Trump, because what you're accusing of is conspiring with Russia.
But they had to keep saying collusion because they made that term suck for intel purposes.
joe rogan
Right, right.
kurt metzger
And every time they change the brand name, so UAP, it's because they go in the water.
We have to change it.
Do you?
That's why?
joe rogan
No, it was the word got muddy.
kurt metzger
Yeah, the word got muddied.
Who muddied the word, by the way, again?
Refresh me on who muddied the word.
Oh, you assholes.
joe rogan
No, a lot of things muddied that word.
kurt metzger
The people in charge.
joe rogan
But UFO was also muddied by crazy people.
kurt metzger
Oh, I know.
They're useful to help muddy waters.
joe rogan
Yeah, listen, man.
They do it on their own.
There's a lot of people that do it on their own.
kurt metzger
Well, okay.
Once you tell the first lie, yeah, all kinds of...
Speculations are gonna happen.
Why the fuck are you allowed to keep these secrets, motherfucker?
I'm supposed to go, oh, it's a complicated world.
Yeah, lying does complicate the world.
joe rogan
That's true.
kurt metzger
That's true.
joe rogan
Like, if they do have secrets...
That's true.
But what I'm saying is that the UFO stuff was muddied up with the same reason why the Loch Ness stuff was muddied up.
It was like people that got high at parties and annoyed the shit out of you with Nessie stories.
You know, you're like, enough!
You're a fool.
You're wasting all your time paying attention to something that's not real.
Yeah, so we all say I'm sorry for you.
Put into that category for a long time.
kurt metzger
Well, that's where you hide it.
Here's where you hide things.
joe rogan
But this is the thing that happened.
They shifted it in 2017. So in 2017, when the New York Times makes that report, now all of a sudden, this is a real story.
kurt metzger
Was COVID happening yet?
joe rogan
Not yet, no.
2017. Oh, good.
kurt metzger
So we got prepped for maybe some disclosures.
joe rogan
I think that they needed to do that in order to slowly leak what they already have.
kurt metzger
I want to know how they're going to tell anybody anything because...
Here's why you got to keep a secret for a long time.
The secret's real bad.
So how am I going to tell?
It's like somebody's cheating on their girl with a horse or some evil shit.
joe rogan
You are lying to Congress.
So if you lie to Congress, you're in trouble.
kurt metzger
They own Congress.
joe rogan
But this is the thing.
If it comes to a trial and it gets exposed, some people get, look, some people get sent down the river.
Some people get sacrificed.
That's probably what happened with Epstein, right?
kurt metzger
Of course!
People get sacrificed.
Hugh Hefner made it to the end.
joe rogan
People get sacrificed.
kurt metzger
He's a good operative.
Boss Hogg served with distinction.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
You know Boss Hogg was CIA? Yeah, you were telling me that last night.
joe rogan
That is so crazy.
kurt metzger
He spoke five languages.
He went to Yale.
joe rogan
Boss Hogg for the Dukes of Hazzard who played a moron.
kurt metzger
Yeah, and it was Strom Thurmond and somebody else he didn't like.
That's the voice he was doing for Boss Hogg.
And he's wearing a padded suit.
He's not even fat, I don't think.
joe rogan
No way!
kurt metzger
He's a bonesman?
Boss Hogg?
joe rogan
Skull and bones, you mean.
kurt metzger
Yeah, he was skull and bones.
I think it was Vietnam he served in.
joe rogan
Find a Boss Hogg on the Dukes of Hazzard.
kurt metzger
Nobody says...
I've never heard any bad NK shit about him ever, by the way.
joe rogan
Are you allowed to play Hogan's Heroes on TV? Because they have a bunch of swastikers.
unidentified
Swastikers?
joe rogan
Are you allowed to?
Yeah.
kurt metzger
I mean, Chase Bank has a swastika, so why can't they?
joe rogan
Here, he was...
kurt metzger
You know Chase has a swastika for a logo, right?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Hold on.
Hold, please.
One step at a time.
You're scattering on me.
Brooke was fluent in English, French, Japanese, Spanish, Russian, and Italian.
Holy shit!
They also said that he fussed with a half a dozen other languages, such as Arabic, Mandarin, Chinese, Dutch, Parisian...
Persian, rather, Polish, and Swedish.
One of his hobbies was moving into and restoring rundown houses.
In 1981, he lived in a modest home on a modest street in Los Angeles where he did his own gardening and carpentry.
He called his Boss Hog character despicable, but enjoyed meeting fans of the show.
kurt metzger
Guy did not like Strom Thurmond.
joe rogan
Despicable.
jamie vernon
He's 5'6", 185. Oh, that's crazy.
joe rogan
Well, actually, that probably...
Oh, he wore padding to seem fatter.
Just Google a scene, Boss Hog on Dukes of Hazzard.
Let's watch a scene.
He was definitely a little fat.
kurt metzger
I think Bob Odenkirk got his impression of Southerners from...
When I used to watch Mr. Show, I think he was doing Boss Hog.
I might be wrong.
joe rogan
My question was, you can't show the Dukes of Hazzard anymore because of that fucking generalism.
kurt metzger
There's just some good old boys never meaning no harm.
unidentified
Let's see what color you got here.
Oh, orange.
I like this.
That's good.
What's this one?
Blue.
That's pretty.
What color you got here?
Red!
Red!
I hate red!
Look what you're doing to me!
Hey, boss!
Hey, boss.
Listen, boss.
I just come in to report.
What a horrendous gunshot wound.
How come you're still standing?
All right!
That's one of you cutthroats done shot the boss in the gizzard, huh?
You hush up, you doo-doo.
That's just paint.
What?
See?
Hey, that's just paint.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
This shows you the evolution of culture, because that might be one of the dumbest scenes I've ever seen in my life.
It's amazing that this was a popular show.
kurt metzger
He's mocking a guy he doesn't like with that voice.
joe rogan
I know, but the show's terrible.
It's so bad.
kurt metzger
Go back and look at all the 80s movies you ever watched, and the messages are kind of strange.
joe rogan
But that show, that show's so bad.
At least that scene in that show is so bad.
But the point is, because of the General Lee, because of the Confederate flag, they pulled it off a television.
kurt metzger
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
So you don't see it anymore.
kurt metzger
I heard Bill Cosby bought it so he couldn't watch it.
joe rogan
Didn't he?
He did that with something, right?
kurt metzger
The little rascal supposedly.
I don't know if that's true or not.
joe rogan
I don't know if that's true or not either.
kurt metzger
Look, all these rich people, they get to a level like you're Rockefeller.
We have PR thanks to Rockefeller because nobody liked that motherfucker and so they invented PR to help sell him.
That's why we have who's your favorite billionaire, right?
So you're like, people hate Elon Musk.
I'm like, oh, which billionaires do you like?
Are you like Gates?
Bezos?
You should pick one like a feudal lord and you should serve under them and fly their banner.
And you could do it with these great...
Now, I serve Haktuah coin.
I don't know if I brought that up.
But my lady...
Haktuah.
The programming is so obvious.
And Disney's not going to be woke anymore.
We're going to go back to Bavarian fairy tales.
It's all Nazi shit.
The whole...
Every single thing.
The programming is the Prussian school.
We brought Nazis after the war.
They helped us go to the moon at NASA, right?
Yeah.
Was everybody just moving on from that?
You think they shot JFK because not Nazis?
Like, CIA's covering for Nazis, and if JFK gets rid of the CIA, who's going to protect the Nazis?
You don't think they would?
joe rogan
Well, I think there's a whole bunch of factors, like we talked about with the Special Forces guys.
There's a whole bunch of factors that wanted to get rid of him.
kurt metzger
Yeah, shell companies.
joe rogan
He seemed to be doing a lot of the same kind of things that this administration's kind of doing, like trying to clean house.
kurt metzger
They tried to shoot Trump twice?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's what's nuts about the whole JFK story, is that he, like, openly talked about getting rid of the CIA. I know.
kurt metzger
Looking back now, it feels kind of stupid that I thought they didn't kill him.
Now I'm like, why would I think, who else would have done it?
Like, maybe it's the mob.
Maybe it's the something like, oh, it takes a village, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Why would you only have one guy do it, especially back then?
Like, back then, it was so easy to keep a secret in comparison to today.
kurt metzger
Well, how did, what's his name, Lee Harvey Oswald, get out of?
Russia with his, the daughter of a, what is it, SVU, so their intelligence agency, military intelligence, the daughter of somebody from that.
Who the hell got him in and out?
Well, that's when we worked with Reinhard Galen from the SS. Remember when we, you know, all that Project Gladio shit?
Pretty much everything.
Like, everything you hear about the devil's chessboard in that book.
That's when we merged with the fucking Nazis.
But they were like good WEF Nazis.
Do you know what I mean?
They think globally, they act locally.
joe rogan
Well, it's all fact.
Operation Paperclip is a real thing.
kurt metzger
Well, we should forget about it and just not connect it to anything, I think.
I think it would be best if you didn't connect things.
joe rogan
It's funny that people don't want to admit it.
It is interesting.
It's interesting that it puts so many other things into question.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well now that I don't believe in God, I got nothing.
So I gotta believe in this forever, don't I? Now that I know I'm a scientific materialist and I know there is no God, what else can I rely on except the promise of transhumanism one day?
I will be a robot man.
These fucking weirdos say this shit.
Dude, I'm watching Bad Thad on here go, there is nothing.
There's no essence of anything.
It's all like not, you know, just name it and claim it.
I'm like, do you know how insane that is, what just came out of your fucking mouth?
But they think that.
joe rogan
Well, it's just intellectual gymnastics.
They're just doing intellectual gymnastics.
They're playing around with ideas and they think they're smart enough.
Their ego is so silly that they think they're smart enough to take in a logical thing and promote it as logical because it makes them look like a contrarian or like an abstract thinker.
kurt metzger
Well, how do you make your money?
joe rogan
You make your money by being a bullshit artist that's pretending to be a rebel.
kurt metzger
If I'm a Bill Gates that's just so concerned about the health of the children of the world, you know?
I mean, he's a good guy who wants to help.
It's not just about the money.
It's about my fucking Pharaoh's tomb I should have.
I'm gonna fucking get people like that that care about the money, and they're gonna be under me in my little pyramid.
joe rogan
Isn't it interesting that we always know that that has been the case throughout history, but we don't want to believe it's happening with the elites of the world now.
Like, in our minds, we want to separate the people of today from the people of the past that did the same thing over and over and over and over again throughout history.
kurt metzger
Hey, I don't want to believe I'm bald, but guess what?
I gotta wear a Hawk Tua hat wherever I go.
Name it and claim it.
joe rogan
So, you were saying that the Hawk Tua girl has gone missing?
kurt metzger
No, I don't think she...
She probably hasn't posted online.
I think now's the time to get in.
But Jamie was telling me she's supposedly missing.
But it's like when Suri Cruise was missing.
joe rogan
Didn't she make a statement saying she had no idea what the fuck was going on?
Like she didn't understand?
kurt metzger
Yo, Coffeezilla had a thing about it.
Like the dude, DJ Hollywood or whatever.
He's married to Howie Mandel's daughter.
He's known for starting these up.
So it's like a George Foreman grill.
George Foreman didn't invent the grill.
They're like, this is your grill, George Foreman.
That's what they did with Hot Tua.
joe rogan
How much...
How many different crypto coins are there, Jamie?
Did we find that out?
jamie vernon
Honestly, it's innumerable.
I want it to be deadass.
Innumerable.
joe rogan
So it could be a million?
jamie vernon
We could start ten right now, and they could all be called the same thing.
kurt metzger
Now, do you like Boyhawk Tua?
jamie vernon
How much money are you putting behind it?
joe rogan
But this is the thing.
If you're a crazy person that invested in NFTs...
kurt metzger
I am.
joe rogan
If you're one of those people that gets in on these things, why wouldn't you get in on this stuff?
It seems like some people are probably...
kurt metzger
You're probably better now.
joe rogan
Just like some people are professional poker players.
kurt metzger
That's exactly it.
jamie vernon
There's a coin called Fartcoin that started up.
Can you text me that?
But how it was started, I was trying to get into, was someone turned on an AI, maybe two AIs, and gave it some parameters, and it created this coin.
And so then someone launched it.
kurt metzger
Oh, that's the thing my buddy was talking about.
joe rogan
Now it's worth a billion dollars.
jamie vernon
Why it's that is all the parameters and the project and everything it's supposed to do and what they're supposed to do is all laid out here on this website, which almost all of them, I think you're supposed to have that.
joe rogan
Okay.
Here's the big question, though.
Where's the money coming from?
If it's worth a billion dollars, is that real money?
Has someone spent a billion dollars?
jamie vernon
Yeah, someone fronts a billion.
In theory, if you think there's a billion to start, someone put a billion.
kurt metzger
Is that true?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
It doesn't come from nowhere.
unidentified
Wait a minute.
joe rogan
So you can start a coin, but you need a billion dollars of real money?
jamie vernon
That's the pump.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
You gotta pump before you can dump.
joe rogan
So it's actual money?
kurt metzger
Oh, that's a good rule of thought.
joe rogan
Or is it crypto money?
This is the question.
I was saying, does the Trump coin, did people take their Shibu Inu coins and buy Trump coins?
jamie vernon
It almost doesn't matter.
joe rogan
Wait, wait, wait.
It does matter because if you put it on your American Express card at the end of the month, you're going to have to pay.
jamie vernon
In order to do what you just said, you have to go through an exchange to exchange it into a coin, but then you're exchanging on a website.
kurt metzger
You sound like Poor Dad from Rich Dad, Poor Dad.
joe rogan
I've never watched that.
kurt metzger
Oh, well, Rich Dad says go into debt.
That guy's a billionaire in debt.
You've never seen Rich Dad, Poor Dad?
joe rogan
No.
kurt metzger
His real story is so much better than his fake story.
It's so interesting.
joe rogan
Here's my advice.
Don't go into debt.
kurt metzger
That's what poor dad used to say.
joe rogan
Real freedom is the ability to do what you want when you want to do it.
kurt metzger
My rich dad told me only poor people work.
You only have one dad, right?
jamie vernon
I think Trump's done with something about a billion dollars.
If I owe you a billion dollars, it's your problem.
kurt metzger
It is.
And can you say he's wrong?
And that's why I look...
joe rogan
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
kurt metzger
Well, some of these are bumping dumps, but I say Hawk 2 is a keeper.
joe rogan
That's the weird thing about getting wealthy, is you have to meet other wealthy people.
kurt metzger
Yeah, and so imagine...
joe rogan
And hang out with them.
kurt metzger
It must be fucking weird.
joe rogan
It's so weird.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's so weird because I'm pretty normal.
I'm pretty much the same person.
I'm a better version of who I used to be.
That's what I strive to be.
That's what I think I am.
So if that's the case, what is the draw?
Of, like, being a part of, like, these elite groups.
Because people want to, like, be a part of this.
You want to be in the secret meetings.
kurt metzger
To get as much power as possible.
joe rogan
Yeah, you want to go to the conferences and speak at the conferences and be around all these other rich ballers and rub elbows with all the elites.
kurt metzger
Yeah, have a drink.
And then you wake up and I show you a godfather.
joe rogan
Your liver's on a tray.
kurt metzger
Or you're in a tub with another kid.
Yeah, and now I own you, motherfucker.
And then now you're...
Oh, how'd this person just start singing a different tune out of nowhere?
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
How much of that you've seen?
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
It's really odd.
Almost as if somebody had something on him, isn't it?
joe rogan
A little weird.
It gets weird.
kurt metzger
What happened to Bernie?
That's a broken man.
I wonder what they did to him.
joe rogan
Didn't he just tweet something ridiculous?
kurt metzger
He better, or else something's gonna come out he don't like.
That's how I take it.
joe rogan
He tweeted something ridiculous.
I read that.
I was like, this does not even make logical sense.
kurt metzger
All these people saying shit that makes no logical sense.
If you're motivated, you'll say the shit that makes no, if you're properly motivated.
joe rogan
One of my favorite things was in the Bernie people were mad at Bernie for making money off of his book because he made like a million bucks off his book.
kurt metzger
Yeah, right.
joe rogan
And they're like, oh, you're a part of the problem now.
kurt metzger
Yeah, no, his part of the problem happened in legislation, not in the book part.
That's pretty honest, actually, the book, because most of them get paid out the ass.
joe rogan
I think the idealistic...
The perspective of what he was trying to do makes a little bit of sense.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well, that's why they pick a guy and he's the guy that's allowed to say that.
But he ain't gonna back it up.
joe rogan
Well, they were worried that he was going to.
They were worried that he was gonna be able to make it into the actual White House, which is why they sabotaged him in the primaries.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
They were worried.
kurt metzger
But don't worry, he would have thrown it.
joe rogan
That was my first attacks.
When CNN said that my show was sexist and racist and transphobic and homophobic.
kurt metzger
That's a real thing.
Oh, that's a catchphrase.
A Bernie bro.
joe rogan
Right.
You turn him into a scumbag.
You turn him into, like, or a clown.
A Bernie bro.
kurt metzger
Well, you get an identity.
See, identity politics, the great part of that is you can take, instead of talking about shit that matters, you know, the economics, let's say, you can talk about shit that doesn't matter, which is your outer shell.
unidentified
Yeah.
kurt metzger
And you can pretend, and you can turn the superficial into the most, and that's where we live now.
joe rogan
Yes.
kurt metzger
In MK retard land.
unidentified
Yeah.
kurt metzger
I mean, gold, I can see how they start using gold.
joe rogan
It works.
unidentified
Well...
joe rogan
It's not as old as I thought it was, which kind of throws my whole fucking theory into a monkey wrench.
kurt metzger
Can't spell gold without old.
That's what we say in the gold business.
joe rogan
It still doesn't make sense to me that even thousands of years ago we all agreed on these stupid metal coins.
But it does make sense that you kind of need something.
Like, just logically.
kurt metzger
They probably had a prehistoric Jekyll Island where the cave J.P. Morgan and the rest of the boys met, and then they're like, we're going to use gold from now on.
joe rogan
You know, it used to be salt.
They used to go to war for salt.
kurt metzger
Yeah, that's why I never believe, and I think it's not true, about salting the earth to make crops not grow.
Like, can you imagine you're Roman and they're like, you got done with the battle, like, alright, we're gonna dump, that's your pay.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
Can we not dump my paycheck on the earth?
Like, the rain's gonna wash it away.
joe rogan
Salt was worth so much money, because you could preserve meat with it.
Otherwise, you couldn't have meat, because they didn't have refrigeration.
So they would take everything they would cover with salt.
So salt kills bacteria.
kurt metzger
I should probably eat more salt to preserve my meat.
joe rogan
Well, people think that salt lowers your, makes your blood pressure higher.
There's like so much stupid shit that's connected with salt.
kurt metzger
It turned out was the thing where they pay to pretend it's not that, you know, like your fructoses and your...
joe rogan
Well, it got lumped into that whole thing where they were trying to connect saturated fat.
Heart disease because sugar companies once you live through when they flip the polls on what's good and bad like several times well that one's documented right because that one they actually They bribed scientists.
The sugar industry bribed scientists to lie.
And so that flipped it on.
And then they were looking for other reasons why people were getting fat, other reasons why people were having hypertension and all these different things.
And salt got thrown into the mix there.
But the problem is salt's an essential mineral.
It's like a very important thing for human life.
kurt metzger
Yeah, like carbon.
joe rogan
Yeah, you fucking actually need it.
You should put salt in your water in the morning.
Take some Celtic salt, sprinkle it in some hot water in the morning and squeeze a little lemon in there.
It's fucking good for you.
Salt's very important.
kurt metzger
You should never get any sun, right?
That's what I was told.
joe rogan
You should get sun.
kurt metzger
It's super important.
joe rogan
This idea that the bad skin cancer that people get, from what I've...
kurt metzger
Jimmy had it.
He explained the whole fucking thing.
He had the kind where it's not...
joe rogan
It's no big deal.
That's bad.
Generally, you get because you're not exposed to the sun.
You get exposed to the sun in like a big burst and your skin's not prepared for it.
kurt metzger
What a blooper they made with that one.
joe rogan
That was so many things, man.
With the downplaying the positive impact of exercise and diet on health.
You want to pretend that all health comes from a fucking injection.
kurt metzger
Wait, do you think that was even...
joe rogan
How about that?
Global health people, the people that aren't healthy.
How about that?
How about look at them and you go, that guy's not healthy.
kurt metzger
You don't want to fuck Peter Hotez?
Like, ew, RFK! He's 70 and he looks like that?
And look at this fucking...
joe rogan
Well, when I had Peter Hotez on and we talked about food and diet, I was like, this is the most crazy unscientific perspective.
I was very kind to him about it, but I was like, you don't eat well and you don't take vitamins?
kurt metzger
Yeah, take that lab coat off, motherfucker.
joe rogan
And you don't exercise?
This is crazy talk.
This is absolutely crazy talk because there's a fucking giant amount of scientific literature on the positive impact of all those things.
If you are not addressing that science, and your only science is I have to stick you with a fucking experimental needle.
kurt metzger
And I happen to make the thing that we stick in you.
I happen to be a guy that makes money off that, but don't worry about that.
You think I would promote it if it wasn't the best thing?
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
It's just we don't want to believe that that's how people in positions of authority would ever behave because the responsibility that comes with being in that position where you're the person that informs everybody else and you're knowingly going through this with fucking huge blinders on.
That even when you get exposed, you don't realize, oh, it really is hypocritical of me.
You know, I should actually supplement my food with vitamins.
I should stop eating garbage.
He's like a junk food junkie.
He was talking to me about getting junk food.
He likes to get cheeseburgers and fries.
Like, hey, buddy, that's...
So bad for your immune system.
All that stuff is terrible for you if that's your diet.
kurt metzger
I think it was Time magazine that said actually processed food probably isn't that bad.
joe rogan
Isn't that funny they said that?
You know what the most recent thing?
They said actually aluminum and vaccines isn't a bad thing.
kurt metzger
I thought there was no aluminum.
Wait, I thought they said there was none of that.
joe rogan
No, there is.
There has to be.
kurt metzger
Hey, here's one.
joe rogan
It has to be an irritant.
kurt metzger
So, you know, I was in a doomsday call.
You know, Jehovah's Witnesses predicted famously the end of the world in 1977. And boy, that was embarrassing when that didn't happen, huh?
What jerks.
And then meanwhile, climate change has predicted the end of the world.
I can think of like four times off the top of my fucking head.
So now they have a worse record than Bible people.
The climate prophecy is less reliable than the crazy religious people.
joe rogan
Well, not even Bible people.
Jehovah's Witnesses.
kurt metzger
Everybody, like a lot of people who herald camping and predict the end of the world.
That's embarrassing, but Al Gore made a fucking movie!
That wasn't right.
The coral reefs are supposed to be gone, but they're back now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
kurt metzger
The rainforest.
As a kid, I was afraid about this.
There's more than ever because it turned out they breathe carbon.
I never heard of this.
Have you?
unidentified
Yeah.
kurt metzger
The trees breathe carbon.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what I heard.
kurt metzger
Oh, it's going to be a desert.
Why?
Because there's too much oxygen for the trees.
Too much tree air.
Oh.
joe rogan
There's more.
The earth is greener now than it was 100 years ago.
kurt metzger
Oh, fossil fuels.
Remember, they were talking about oil.
So that's Sinclair with the brontosaurus on the can, right?
And that's marketing.
If you look up Colonel Prout, P-R-O-W-T-Y, he's like a guy that hung out when they came up with this energy policy.
Because it's military, come up with our energy policy.
And that Rockefeller made his money really kind of transporting the oil.
Because there was oil all over the fucking place.
So a guy's got to control, like diamonds, let's say.
And then because it...
It governs, like, everything.
Your energy.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
They could just control all kinds of shit, and then they could say it's scarce, and we don't have enough of it.
And then they could do your carbon footprint.
BP came up with that term.
And people say it like an asshole.
Oh, is my carbon?
Not their carbon ass print.
I have a big one, if you want.
But your carbon footprint.
Like, I'm Catholic now, but of climate change.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
Well, why was I born?
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
I shouldn't even be on the earth.
I'm so bad for existing.
Why don't I find Jesus if we're gonna do that game?
Right?
Where I feel guilty for being around.
joe rogan
For carbon.
kurt metzger
While guys on a goddamn plane, private jet telling me that.
joe rogan
Well, it offsets it.
All his global health work.
kurt metzger
Yeah, the church thought that you could offset Satan by paying for it, and then they had a schism, I think.
So I think it didn't work out.
joe rogan
The fucking Al Gore movie was so wrong in so many ways.
If you go back and watch that movie, didn't he say by 2005 the fucking polar ice caps were going to be gone?
The whole thing was so nutty.
kurt metzger
Yo, more shit's coming true out of...
Dumbass Revelation book in the Bible than anything Al Gore said.
Is that disturbing?
It's very disturbing.
joe rogan
It's very disturbing.
kurt metzger
Yeah, like they wrote it and are fulfilling it themselves disturbing is how it feels like to me.
joe rogan
But it's one of those things, like you're a vaccine denier.
You know, it's the same kind of thing.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, if you're a climate denier, yeah, you denied Christ.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well, Fauci's got the, what do they call it, the Jesuit look, the wire glasses, and that, you could see it, like, transferring that weird Catholic, Robin DiAngelo, she said it.
I want my Catholic guilt to be your policy on race now.
And then, so it's like, you're racist because you were just born a Caucasian.
You have to understand that.
So, because you can't help but you're racist, I need you to be racist against yourself from now on.
That's what they were teaching.
joe rogan
The people right now that are still on Fauci's side, that still think he did a great job.
There's still people out there that really think that he didn't know about the lab leak theory and that he didn't.
Didn't coerce people into changing their stories and didn't have the power to grant money.
kurt metzger
And they're not going to look into it.
joe rogan
They're not going to look into it.
They think that Trump is an evil man because all Fauci did was do a good job and he saved millions of lives.
Do you know that the vaccine saved millions of lives?
You got to repeat that.
kurt metzger
It did?
joe rogan
It saved millions of lives.
kurt metzger
Not even arguably in there?
joe rogan
Millions and millions of lives.
kurt metzger
I'm surprised.
Just because after I got it, I immediately got COVID, so I'm a little surprised.
joe rogan
Well, here's the thing.
kurt metzger
It slowed the spread.
joe rogan
You're not scientific, and you don't trust the science.
And that's why we're having an argument about this, and I have to clap back at you.
I think it's called clapping back.
kurt metzger
Yeah, a James clapback from James Clapback.
It's a CIA invention.
You give him a clapback.
joe rogan
We don't even know how many people are saved.
kurt metzger
I didn't say Hunter's laptop was Russian missing.
I said it had the earmarks of an information operation.
joe rogan
Yeah, and someone who's on crack who just films his dick 24 hours a day does have the earmarks.
Yeah, I mean, the guy did it so wild that it seems fake.
kurt metzger
Why is Hunter not a political streamer with this level of degeneracy?
joe rogan
He really should have a fucking Twitch channel.
He would rule.
kurt metzger
Dude, Hunter, just play...
joe rogan
Just go hard.
Your dad's dead.
Go hard now.
You can go hard now.
Get back on the wagon.
kurt metzger
His piece soft?
Let me tell you.
Nothing to sneeze at.
He took a lot of...
China knows now.
unidentified
I'll tell you that.
joe rogan
Everybody knows.
Everybody knows.
But they knew already.
That was one of the reasons why they were paying that guy.
kurt metzger
Why did Biden pardon Bidens that I've never heard of?
joe rogan
Because they were all guilty, apparently.
kurt metzger
Yeah, and why...
I didn't know banks were reporting suspicious activity.
You know, because he has...
You know, the Shell Company galaxy.
joe rogan
A bunch of suspicious activity.
kurt metzger
By the way, a normal person has 20 Shell Companies.
I don't know if you know that.
I have 80. Yeah, well, you're smart.
joe rogan
I keep them in my pocket.
kurt metzger
Shell companies?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The whole idea behind a fucking full pardon...
There's almost none left.
You want some more?
I can get more made.
kurt metzger
No, probably enough, but go ahead.
joe rogan
The whole idea behind pardons is supposed to be there's a crime that you did that we think you served enough time and the president has enough information or whatever.
kurt metzger
You're admitting to it.
joe rogan
Well, it's like this weird power that you have to commute sentences and to pardon people for crimes.
Alleged crimes.
They were convicted for.
kurt metzger
Do you know that the...
Justice Department under Biden, as they so eloquently said to the January 6th people, if you accept it, because remember they were like, Trump's going to do preemptive pardons.
Remember that?
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
Biden would never do that, if we recall.
And they got letters, just so you know, if you accept the pardon, that means you're saying you're guilty, and it doesn't unring, there's the quote, unring the bell of your prosecution.
And they're right, it doesn't, because now, and that's what, what's his name, he was talking about with Fauci, like...
You can't plead the fifth ever again if you take a pardon.
joe rogan
That's what we were talking about last night.
kurt metzger
So if Fauci's going to rat people out, that's cool.
I hope we stick with it.
joe rogan
If they bring him in and they make him sing, the thing is, he could perjure himself.
If they know something and you say something that is not true on the stand, if you lie, if they determine, now you have a whole other crime.
And the thing that they didn't pardon him for is the stuff that happened during the AIDS crisis.
I don't know what the statute of limitations on that stuff is.
But if you go back and you want to try him for what he knew.
I mean, that's the Dallas Buyers Club.
You want to try him for what he knew about suppressing other therapeutics other than AZT. Or if you knew that he had the data on AZT and how quickly it was killing people.
kurt metzger
Yeah, well, once you do the first batch of mass murder, it's easy to go from there, isn't it?
joe rogan
In the 1980s and 90s, like, no one knew what the fuck was going on.
There's no internet.
There's no RFK Jr. spreading the word with his book.
Like, no one gets that information.
So that happened for a long-ass time.
And then when he tried to do it again in 2019, the single fucking solution is the vaccine and the vaccine only.
People will drive.
unidentified
Stop their ideological bullshit and get vaccinated.
kurt metzger
You know, Matt Orfala does those great compilations of him saying the opposite in the same breath?
joe rogan
He's crazy.
That's a person that's in an extreme position of power.
They probably got drunk with it.
And, you know, and is able to justify a lot of wild shit.
kurt metzger
Okay, the way they can justify it is, is because most of these people are controlled by some kind of intel.
Hopefully ours, but maybe not.
We still make, do gain of function, hey, good news, we do gain of function with China, our adversary still.
I don't know why that would be.
joe rogan
But wasn't that also the talk about Ukraine, that Ukraine had bioweapons labs?
kurt metzger
Peaceful...
No, no, they had...
Let me quote Peaceful Biolabs.
joe rogan
Oh, Peaceful.
kurt metzger
Now, I don't know if you know the nuanced difference between a Peaceful Biolab and a Bioweapon Lab, but it's real nuanced.
joe rogan
Peaceful Biolab is where they grow mushrooms.
kurt metzger
That's where I buy my mushroom gum.
Peaceful Biolabs?
joe rogan
By the way, if mushrooms become legal, somebody please.
Make a product called Peaceful Biolabs.
That would be fun.
It's like a tribute to the show.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
Well, I love in the Korean War, those soldiers didn't want to come home, right?
And this is what started the mind control race and the Manchurian Candidate and all those movies was these soldiers wouldn't come back.
They defected to North Korea and they said the United States has been using weaponized viral germ warfare on the people of Korea.
And so that's when we knew They must be under mind control to say such nonsense.
joe rogan
Right.
There's no way the government would do that on other people.
kurt metzger
So that's how we knew for sure that's what it was.
And so that started a nice mind control race.
And that's why we have the story of the Manchurian candidate.
Because China was good.
Whoever the fuck was going to do it.
Guess what?
When you hear about what our enemies are up to, that's how we fund what we're up to.
They don't want to tell people the truth because it'll panic them.
When the fuck do they not want you panicked?
Is this a different government that I haven't heard of?
The number one thing they love is you to be traumatized and then forgetful.
joe rogan
Right, but the UAP thing, they don't want you to be traumatized by something more powerful than them.
The problem with the UAP thing is it dissolves our faith in government because government is just as useless as us.
Yeah, I didn't think they were God.
Yeah, if there's something...
From another planet that's so beyond us that it has complete control of our nuclear program, complete control of our internet, our grid, controls the population, can't be totally invulnerable to weapons, and comes down and takes over.
Well, a superior race.
kurt metzger
A bunch of people already believe in the thing you said, but don't think it's aliens, and they're fine with it.
In fact, like...
I think it's, oh, people are going to go crazy and then they're going to come at us, is the fear.
Because that, you know, Orson Welles famous thing, I bring it up all the time, everyone panicked because they thought it was real.
That's not fucking true.
joe rogan
Well, some people panicked, but it wasn't nearly the hysteria.
People that tuned in in the middle that didn't know really freaked out.
kurt metzger
I think it was not even that.
I think now that we know the papers didn't like radio because it was much like podcasting is to CNN, they were trying to kill that, is what I think.
joe rogan
Really?
Well, it was greatly exaggerated, right?
The negative impact.
kurt metzger
And then taught as fucking science for many years.
joe rogan
The people committed suicide.
That was the thing that we were told in school.
kurt metzger
They told you people killed themselves from that.
joe rogan
Yes, yes.
Yeah, when I was in high school, I remember they were talking about Orson Welles, and the teacher in high school was explaining, I'm 90% sure of this, the foggy memory, because I was probably 15. But in that foggy memory, I'm pretty sure they were talking about people committing suicide because of it.
kurt metzger
Yeah, hilarious.
So, that's before Roswell or whatever.
joe rogan
See if there's any evidence that people did commit suicide after War of the Worlds.
Because, look, there's a lot of schizophrenic people, unfortunately.
kurt metzger
There are now.
joe rogan
Back then, too?
kurt metzger
No?
joe rogan
Okay, while the War of the Worlds radio broadcast is often associated with mass panic, there's no credible evidence of any widespread suicides directly caused by the broadcast.
The idea of people killing themselves due to believing in Martian invasion was real and is generally considered a myth, though some listeners did experience significant distress and fear due to the realistic presentation of the fictional event.
I'm sure that's true.
So the suicides is probably what always happens, right?
People exaggerate shit.
kurt metzger
Dude, how long are they going to use suicides as an excuse to, like, lie?
Or, like, climate change right now, that's like a dog you blame farts on.
That's what climate change is.
Dude, the fires?
It's unbelievable watching that.
joe rogan
Well, people calling the fires climate change is crazy.
kurt metzger
How would that absolve Newsom and the gang?
If it was climate change, either way, shouldn't you have water in the fucking hydrant?
Shouldn't you have more water because of climate change?
joe rogan
You definitely should have water in the hydrant.
What is this?
jamie vernon
This was the opening of the 1984 Olympics where they had a fake alien landing.
unidentified
I don't think they told people about it either.
jamie vernon
I kind of skimmed through it.
kurt metzger
Is it Michael Jackson in there?
joe rogan
Whoa, what was it?
jamie vernon
They used some Disney people.
Apparently they went through a couple tests.
This is a jet engine of some sort flying a flying saucer in.
They had a bunch of lights on it.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
They didn't tell anyone this was going to happen either.
They just started doing it.
joe rogan
Oh my god, dude.
Imagine?
jamie vernon
And then there's an alien.
joe rogan
How big is it?
kurt metzger
What's the alien look like?
jamie vernon
I think it's like 50 feet.
joe rogan
Holy shit!
Oh, it looked like there was a helicopter above it, dude.
jamie vernon
Well, they're flying over...
Olympics.
This is the opening.
joe rogan
Right, but it's not suspended by a helicopter?
jamie vernon
I don't believe so, no.
I was trying to read into how they did it.
joe rogan
I thought I saw a helicopter above it.
Let it go for a little bit?
jamie vernon
Well, it's ten minutes long.
kurt metzger
They should do this at the mall in Miami sometime.
joe rogan
Look at that.
That's amazing.
kurt metzger
Yeah.
joe rogan
Boy, in 1970, or 84 rather, when this was going on, you probably scared the shit out of people.
They probably thought the real aliens were actually landing at the Olympics.
God, look how excited people were about the Olympics back then.
kurt metzger
Our ritual has attracted the sky gods.
unidentified
Yeah.
kurt metzger
Dude, why do we have Olympics again?
joe rogan
That's wild.
Well, because people want to make money off of athletes that work for free.
kurt metzger
Yeah, it's called eugenics.
joe rogan
Look at this.
Look at all the lights flashing.
unidentified
Ha ha ha ha ha!
The alien himself.
Ah!
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
That is no one on the stilts.
That is a man seven feet eight inches tall.
joe rogan
What?
unidentified
She's got, I don't know, seven fingers.
joe rogan
Whoa.
So that's how they practiced it.
So they practiced...
kurt metzger
When they talk about Bluebeam...
joe rogan
An alien invasion back then.
They practiced it in 1984. It's fun.
I want to know how they powered that spaceship thing.
jamie vernon
That's how I was getting into it.
joe rogan
So if they could do that in 84 and then the government with all their black ops funds?
kurt metzger
They have laptops in the 70s and it's just a matter how expensive it is to make and then that's why you're always like 30 just as a rule you're about 30 years behind the best shit they got.
joe rogan
So you think all these things that people are seeing are ours?
kurt metzger
Well the drones?
joe rogan
No, the UFOs, the things that go underwater, all these things that fly through the air at insane speeds.
jamie vernon
They also made this in 1974. This thing's called an X-Jet.
kurt metzger
What?
jamie vernon
It was really loud, though, so like...
joe rogan
19 what?
jamie vernon
This was in the 70s.
joe rogan
This guy's flying around in a flying chair in the 70s?
jamie vernon
This could go 60 miles an hour.
It could go up to 10,000 feet.
joe rogan
How many people died testing that?
jamie vernon
They only tested it with three people, as far as I find.
joe rogan
How many lived?
jamie vernon
And they didn't.
They had no flight experience.
They wanted that on purpose.
joe rogan
This is nuts!
This is nuts!
kurt metzger
Dude, there's a bunch of shit.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
It says no propeller?
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's a jet engine underneath it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god, how hot does it get?
What does it do to your balls?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
joe rogan
What does it do to your balls?
Probably cooks your balls.
kurt metzger
Wow.
joe rogan
How do you not get cancer from that?
kurt metzger
It affirms your gender and flies you?
joe rogan
You're not even supposed to fucking wear earbuds anymore.
Everybody's saying the EFI from those.
That's why I saw you last night.
I was like, what are you doing with Bluetooth earbuds in?
It's supposed to be bad for you.
kurt metzger
Hey, it's too late now, dude.
joe rogan
And even the wired ones.
kurt metzger
I had the shot.
joe rogan
The wired ones are like slightly better.
But everybody's saying like, oh, EFI. If you just look at a screen.
kurt metzger
Dude.
All the shit you're worried about, they done did it.
It's done.
joe rogan
You're not worried about the earbuds?
kurt metzger
No, no, I'm not worried because I already...
Dude, I can't sleep unless I have a TV on, just the tone.
So do you understand the amount of damage that has been done from the blue light from the screen?
They signed that in the world, too.
That's another Obama hit.
You know, the energy-saving light bulbs and all that, where you just get blue light and it ravages your dopamine.
It's the principle of casinos.
Everything's a fucking casino.
joe rogan
So all the blue light that we have in our house is, like, with LED lights, all that's bad for you?
kurt metzger
Yeah, but you could find out more about...
Like, I'm not an expert by any means, but you could find out about...
joe rogan
You sound like an expert.
I'd like to give you a doctorate.
Would you accept?
kurt metzger
Uh, yes.
joe rogan
I think you need an honorary doctorate.
kurt metzger
Can I tell you?
joe rogan
From, like, Conspiracy University.
kurt metzger
I'm a doctor of Hawk to a coin.
joe rogan
Maybe Austin U. Will they open up here?
kurt metzger
I don't know.
Dude...
jamie vernon
Helicopter, you're right.
joe rogan
Oh, so it was elevated by a helicopter.
jamie vernon
Yeah, so it had to be wide enough to be carried by a big lift helicopter.
joe rogan
Yeah, see, that's what I thought I saw.
I thought I saw a helicopter above it.
That makes a lot more sense.
kurt metzger
You saw the Charles Hall video, right?
That guy Charles Hall talking about the tall whites?
joe rogan
Yes.
kurt metzger
So, because that one, it was one of the first ones.
joe rogan
We talked about that yesterday on the podcast with Jay Sands.
kurt metzger
Yeah, so this is also how I started, you know, now conspiracy stuff would be like this to me.
Not like actual objective facts that are public record, but...
Shit where I'm like, it's a guy's story.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
So his story is so interesting because it's like, what made me laugh, so I started looking at this as a joke, because it's making me laugh when he described the tall whites treat us like we're like, you know, this is like the Philippines to them, like a base for doing something.
We're as strong as apes compared to them, is what he said about the tall, eight-foot, very white people.
joe rogan
J-Sands met one.
unidentified
Well...
kurt metzger
As they're talking about it, I'm like, this sounds very familiar.
Wait, is this like the Congo to them?
Are these space Belgians?
And I'm like, oh, wow, that's hilarious.
At the top, there's even whiter people.
joe rogan
Well, doesn't it make sense that if human beings evolve more, we're going to evolve more into weaker and weaker things with stronger and stronger minds, and that's what they look like.
They're really frail.
He said that when it ran, it almost was like, when it was moving fast, it was almost like it was running into the wind.
It was very awkward.
He's like, physically, the thing was very awkward.
kurt metzger
Did he say what Charles Hall said about...
It's not that they're telepathic.
They have a thing they can wear that looks like an Xbox headset.
joe rogan
No, he said that it was making noises, but he was reading its intention in his mind.
And when the thing experienced disgust and anger, he experienced disgust and anger.
That it was some sort of a telepathic link between him and his thing.
kurt metzger
So that's the difference in the story.
joe rogan
Obviously, this is just, who fucking knows what really happened?
A guy's telling me he met an alien.
kurt metzger
Well, I look for differences.
joe rogan
I'm not saying this definitely happened.
kurt metzger
Of course.
joe rogan
What I'm saying is, this is his story.
The thing had giant eyeballs that were twice the size of a human's, and it had such a light-colored skin that he thought that it was suffering from hypothermia.
And it was wearing military dress uniform.
So it was in a pristine...
Totally clean uniform, and one of the guys in the car said, hey, he has no ears.
That's the first thing the guy said.
He said, this is what it looked like.
He said, although the nose looked a little bit rounder.
So he said this thing, communicate with him, and essentially imparted in his brain memories of the structure of this thing that it was looking for.
So it was looking for some specific type of metal that he didn't know what the fuck it meant, and we still couldn't figure out what he meant yesterday.
kurt metzger
Oh, yeah, I saw that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, but bizarre.
kurt metzger
Right.
joe rogan
But if you think of us to Neanderthals, Neanderthals to them, it's going to move in that direction where they're spindly and weak.
They're not going to use their bodies anymore.
kurt metzger
Sure.
The main part I'm focusing on is the relationship that we have with these supposed white creatures.
Why?
When I first heard of them, I remember when I saw Charles Hall, and I'd forgotten about this, but like 2011, and it was in, I want to say Newsweek, and it was like a wacky news item that around the same time as the Israeli guy that said he worked with the Federation.
That ex-Intel guy came out and said there's a Canadian ex-Intel guy.
joe rogan
Right, there's like 14 different star federations or something.
kurt metzger
So some Farsi newspaper said Obama works in league with some extraterrestrials called the Tall Whites.
And I'd never ever heard anybody called the Tall Whites.
I think they meant the Bush family now.
I believe it was George H.W. Bush looking back.
But at the time, because X-Files time, what was the thing they push on your narrative?
Not saying whether there's aliens or not, but...
Clearly, they don't want you to know the real story, so what's the narrative they program you with?
So in 84, that's the Steven Spielberg era.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, coming off the sci-fi thing.
So all I'm doing is listening to everybody's story, and I want to hear themes, and I want to hear the differences.
So the guy, Dodie, the guy who's the ex from Mirage Men, that movie, and he now is like, I'm not lying anymore, because I'm retired from lying.
And so I'll listen.
I'll hear your lies out.
joe rogan
Right.
kurt metzger
But then I'll listen for you changing.
Like, just basic shit.
Like, the details when they change and they're always slight.
I'm like, wait, that's different than the...
So...
What I thought about tall whites, this is, I guess, the tall white technology of back in the 60s, was they couldn't just do it with their mind.
They had a headset.
Charles Hall is very specific about how they did things.
And he was like, they're not like gods.
It stood out because it didn't have any of that fucking ESP kind of...
He goes, they had voice to skull.
They had a thing where they could talk into your head.
joe rogan
Maybe this thing was wearing a hat.
Maybe the thing was under the hat or maybe the hat disguised it or maybe it was the thing disguised as a hat.
kurt metzger
Another thing that stuck out with Charles Hall that made me remember his story compared to other alien stories is they were not environmentalists.
They thought it was weird we ride horses and shit because they sit on most civilized worlds.
joe rogan
Our author Charles James Hall claims to have lived with aliens for two years in Nevada.
After a few months, he finally overcame his fears and started to communicate with the extraterrestrials.
kurt metzger
When you hear him talk, you'll understand.
I mean, let's say this is...
joe rogan
It says overview?
What is it, a movie?
kurt metzger
Yeah.
What's it called?
Walking with the tall whites.
joe rogan
Oh, I know what I'm watching tonight.
Do me a favor and send me that.
Send me that text message.
kurt metzger
Here's the thing.
If you look up as a joke, I was like, okay, what is the racism of aliens?
I want to know the lore.
joe rogan
The reptilians.
Those are the worst.
kurt metzger
Right.
Because I was looking that up, that took me on a whole different track.
Then I started hearing about the Nordics, right?
Tall whites, people say they're the Nordics.
joe rogan
Oh, they're not?
kurt metzger
No.
joe rogan
No.
kurt metzger
The tall whites are Johnny and Edgar Winter albinos.
joe rogan
Okay.
And the Nordics have hair.
kurt metzger
The Nordics are the bad guy from the first Die Hard that fights Bruce Willis.
Right?
The albino guy, yeah.
From all descriptions, that's what a Nordic looks like.
They have that big head.
joe rogan
Right, right.
kurt metzger
And so there's a bunch of these.
joe rogan
And then there's the grays.
kurt metzger
Right.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's the Nordics.
Nordic aliens.
They look jacked.
They're all like Billig Aquaman.
kurt metzger
Okay, let's pretend that they're real.
And I don't know if they are not.
joe rogan
The women are hot.
kurt metzger
Yeah, they're not Nordics.
They're fucking Germans if they're real.
joe rogan
But Germans didn't have that color hair.
kurt metzger
They had a breeding camp, remember?
Germany had a camp to breed people that look like Nordic Space Brothers.
joe rogan
Which is crazy because he didn't look like that.
kurt metzger
He did not look like that, did he?
It's, yeah.
joe rogan
He wanted everybody to have blonde hair and blue eyes, but bitch, you don't.
kurt metzger
But, dude, that guy's not the fucking ultimate evil, by the way.
He's a fucking farm team of, you know, who funded Hitler?
They say Prescott Bush, right?
joe rogan
Well, I heard it was Oxycontin.
Oxycodone.
kurt metzger
You're thinking of the nation of England, the biggest drug cartel empire.
That's why the king's the king, because they're opium empire.
joe rogan
Well, that's why China has a grudge against the UK to this day, because of the opium wars.
kurt metzger
Yeah, people have a hard time forgetting when you force them to...
Imagine instead of fentanyl just coming in, right?
The cartels were saying, like how they do with other stuff, you have to take this.
joe rogan
Yeah, get the whole country hooked on opium.
kurt metzger
So we're more classy now.
We just privately do it to your experts that you trust like a child, right?
So all this...
That's why I laugh when they're going to invade Mexico.
Oh, you're going to get the cartels?
You know who trained the Zetas, the famous Zetas, right?
TV SEAL Team 6. You know that, right?
joe rogan
What do you mean?
kurt metzger
Training them to be the insane killers that they are.
Who do you think went...
Because we've got to fight commies.
joe rogan
Hold on.
Do you mean...
The Zetas.
Guys like an actual deployed team?
kurt metzger
It's called black ops because it's a crime.
joe rogan
Are you talking about people that have retired and go into mercenary service?
kurt metzger
There you go.
Oh, Fort Bragg.
That's where the fucking...
joe rogan
U.S. trained cartels terrorizes Mexico.
Founders of the Zeta's drug gang learned special forces techniques at Fort Bragg before waging a campaign of carnage.
So Fort Bragg is...
There's so many connections to Fort Bragg, right?
The PSYOP one?
kurt metzger
They're not called that anymore now.
They're called something new.
joe rogan
But there's recent connections, like a bunch of recent connections to Fort Bragg.
One of them was the guy who got arrested on the golf course with the AK-47, and he spent time at Fort Bragg.
kurt metzger
Oh, the fake ISIS guy and the Tesla truck guy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The fake ISIS guy was the guy who drove through the crowded New Orleans, right?
And then the guy who was on the golf course with Trump.
Both those guys had come through Fort Bragg.
kurt metzger
Of course.
joe rogan
And then this.
kurt metzger
The PSYOP division, right?
There was the 8th Battalion or 4th Battalion.
The one...
We played it.
The thing about...
joe rogan
Bragg units also led the way in the Korean and Vietnam Wars and the War on Terror.
Today, Fort Bragg is one of the largest military installations in the world and continues to train and field the U.S. Army's best.
It's the largest military base in the entire world, built in 1918, around the end of World War.
So it probably has a section of that base that's dedicated to...
kurt metzger
The Ghost in the Machine commercial.
Remember that?
Ghost in the Machine out of Fort Bragg about the PSYOP division.
Did you see it?
joe rogan
No.
kurt metzger
Dude, you've seen it, right?
Ghost in the Machine?
It's on YouTube.
joe rogan
You say it's like, have you seen Gladiator?
We all see Gladiator.
We haven't all seen Ghost in the Machine.
kurt metzger
Well, no, it was a recruiting ad.
joe rogan
You know what he's talking about?
Have you ever heard of it?
Have you seen it before, Jamie?
kurt metzger
Irregular recruitment for an irregular force.
joe rogan
Listen, we're running out of time, so we'll wrap it up with this.
Let's see this.
I'm a little man, and this is a little town, but there must be a spark in little men that can burst into flame.
John Steinbeck.
kurt metzger
Oh, this is the second one.
This isn't the first one.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, let's see.
kurt metzger
There's two.
unidentified
The most powerful weapon.
joe rogan
Wow, this is a crazy commercial.
kurt metzger
First one's worse.
unidentified
In the hand of the oppressor Freedom is indivisible Is the mind of the oppressed And one man is enslaved All are not free The End Modern wars become a struggle for men's minds as well as for their bodies.
kurt metzger
Huh?
unidentified
Well...
Today we face an enemy who spends enormous sums of money and manpower all over the globe in attempt to subvert the thinking of the people of the free world, confused, revived, and ultimately the subject.
It is a contest unlike any we have ever faced in our history as an issue.
Contest for the minds and hearts of people around the world.
joe rogan
All people.
unidentified
When power corrupts, poetry cleanses.
jamie vernon
This is a movie.
I kind of want to watch it right now.
unidentified
Yeah!
jamie vernon
I think that's what it is.
john f kennedy
That art is not a form of propaganda.
unidentified
It is a form of truth.
kurt metzger
Uh-huh.
Go on.
joe rogan
Behind every idea.
unidentified
By understanding the stimulus response...
kurt metzger
Do you know how creepy that is?
joe rogan
A belief.
unidentified
...everyday things become associated with these primary stimuli, partly by a process called conditioning.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Oh, Cyborg!
kurt metzger
Oh, that's a weird title.
joe rogan
Behind every...
Okay, okay, pause it, pause it, pause it, pause it.
Let's find the other one.
Ghost the Machine 1. So who put this out?
kurt metzger
Fort Brad.
unidentified
That is so nuts.
joe rogan
This is Ghost of the Machine 2 again.
kurt metzger
Ghost of the Machine 1. Try to find Ghost of the Machine 1. Hold on, real quick though.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
Fourth PsyOp group?
kurt metzger
Yeah.
jamie vernon
I clicked on this from the U.S. Army's website.
joe rogan
I know.
Guys, they have a PsyOp channel.
kurt metzger
Well, because they're recruiting, dude.
If you're the kind of shitty...
joe rogan
I understand, but let's see Ghost of the Machine 1. Oh, that's this one.
kurt metzger
This is my favorite.
unidentified
Here we go.
joe rogan
If your opponent is of choleric temper, seek to irritate him.
kurt metzger
I am.
joe rogan
Pretend to be weak.
That he may grow arrogant.
unidentified
I am!
joe rogan
Sun Tzu.
kurt metzger
Oh.
China.
China.
joe rogan
Art of War.
unidentified
China.
kurt metzger
Clown World!
Where'd that come from?
joe rogan
This dude dancing around.
Have you ever wondered...
unidentified
The peaceful pro-democracy demonstration in China comes to a violent and bloody end.
Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall.
joe rogan
Who's pulling the strings?
Question mark.
God.
unidentified
Wolves hiding nearby.
This...
joe rogan
Born from the ashes.
of a world at war you'll find us in the shadows At the tip of the spear.
kurt metzger
China!
joe rogan
A threat rises in the east.
This is crazy.
kurt metzger
No!
joe rogan
Russia Invades Ukraine.
kurt metzger
No!
joe rogan
So this is a recent film.
kurt metzger
Yeah, it's from like 2017, 2018?
jamie vernon
The soldier who edited it?
joe rogan
No, much more recent.
It said Russia Invades Ukraine.
kurt metzger
Oh, that's true.
jamie vernon
They're staying nameless.
They don't want their name to be out there.
kurt metzger
Well, why would you?
joe rogan
Whoever edited it is nameless.
kurt metzger
They're staying in the shadows.
joe rogan
I get it.
I get it.
I'm freaked out for the rest of the day.
Bye, Kurt.
jamie vernon
Let's wrap this up.
joe rogan
I'm going to get out of here.
Appreciate you.
I love you very much.
kurt metzger
Hawk to it!
joe rogan
You're awesome.
Hawk to a coin.
unidentified
To the moon.
Hawk to it to the moon.
joe rogan
Give yourself some Melania coin while it's hot.
Much love to you all.
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