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June 22, 2024 - The Joe Rogan Experience
02:51:45
JRE Fight Companion - June 22, 2024
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brendan schaub
43:23
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brian simpson
19:23
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bryan callen
20:30
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joe rogan
01:19:39
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jamie vernon
00:46
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joe rogan
Trapped.
I don't like being trapped in this Apple ecosystem.
And I'll tell you something.
This fuckin' phone...
unidentified
Live.
joe rogan
We live?
Yay!
I don't give a fuck.
This phone does so much more.
First of all, the anti-glare.
The fact that the screen has anti-glare on it, so much better.
Outside, crystal clear.
You read everything crystal clear.
I fucking love this circle to search thing.
So, like, if you have a cool pair of sneakers on, I can take a photo of them, do a little circle of it on my phone, and immediately pops up on Google all the places to buy it.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
It shows you what things...
Yes!
Dude, here's another one.
My notes, like, say if I do a show and I record it, it will transcribe the entire set and it will summarize it for me.
brendan schaub
That's pretty gangster.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yes, it'll summarize it for me.
It also will summarize websites.
So if there's a website, you know, oh, what's going on in Russia?
Some crazy shit is happening.
I say summarize that for me.
brendan schaub
Give you the cliff notes?
joe rogan
It summarizes it for you.
brendan schaub
Goddamn.
And Apple doesn't do any of that?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Not yet.
Not yet.
Fantastic camera.
brendan schaub
The cameras have always been better, right?
They've always been better on Android?
joe rogan
It's hard to say better, because I have both.
I'm going to tell you something.
They're both awesome.
brian simpson
It's better at certain stuff.
joe rogan
The iPhone camera is fucking awesome, but so is the Samsung camera.
brendan schaub
Hey, let's be honest, though.
You've never taken a picture of an iPhone like, ah, I wish it was better.
joe rogan
Nope.
Never.
Never.
brendan schaub
That's my point.
No one's a professional photographer?
Fuck off.
joe rogan
But if you are like one of those crazy professional photographers, one thing this does do is it zooms way better.
Way better.
The zoom is crystal clear.
You can read a sign like way in the distance where I've zoomed in with this and I can see it, but I can't read the letters.
And then with this phone, with the Samsung, I see the letters crystal clear.
brian simpson
I think the iPhone is a better camera for just whipping it out and taking a picture, but you can do more with the Android.
joe rogan
I don't even know if it's a better camera for taking it out and whipping a picture.
I think they're equal.
I think for taking it out and whipping a picture, it's equal.
But this thing has so many more options.
There's all these options he's always shown me about.
I have to go, where is that?
It's in the settings.
If you're not into fucking around with things, get an iPhone.
But if you're like me and you're really into tech stuff, Android's way more interesting.
brendan schaub
With the Apple, with the iPhone, they have the...
The thing where you can shoot and cut and edit that has all that?
Oh, yeah.
You can have the handheld thing.
My crew, when we're filming whatever car stuff, whatever it is, outside, they'll just have a handheld with the iPhone.
joe rogan
Have a gimbal.
unidentified
Yeah, a gimbal.
bryan callen
Have a little whiskey.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
You can do all that.
And they knock it out.
I'm like, God damn, man.
joe rogan
You can do all that.
Not only that, this has pro features.
You can set it in a pro mode, and you have way more options in terms of how you film it, what the images look like.
It's just way more adjustable.
brendan schaub
Can the government track you on that one too?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, they track you on everything.
That's all bullshit.
You're never getting away from the government.
I don't even believe in Signal.
I've been talking to these people on Signal, like the guy Moxie who made Signal.
What's the matter?
brian simpson
My glass smells funny.
joe rogan
Your glass smells funny.
unidentified
What are you talking about?
brian simpson
I just smell something.
brendan schaub
Does it smell like whiskey?
brian simpson
No, I mean, I smell it through whiskey.
brendan schaub
Like an old whiskey?
brian simpson
It smells like soap?
Like dirty water.
bryan callen
Sometimes it smells like plasma.
Something weird.
joe rogan
You're out of your fucking mind.
It smells like whiskey.
brian simpson
No, no, no.
There's whiskey in your water.
I'm talking outside the whiskey.
joe rogan
You're crazy.
We have an awesome dishwasher.
brian simpson
It smells...
brendan schaub
Maybe size?
joe rogan
Trust me.
brian simpson
I mean, I got the bloodhound nose.
joe rogan
Is your nose that good?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
Has it always been like that?
brian simpson
Even as a smoker.
Yeah, it runs in the family.
brendan schaub
Oh, wow.
That's interesting.
You guys just have blood hanging noses, huh?
joe rogan
That's interesting.
brian simpson
I'm always the first one to smell something.
joe rogan
Bro, when I got my nose fixed, when I got my deviated septum fixed, I could smell way better.
I was like, oh my god.
brendan schaub
Forever, though?
Because I got mine fixed, and it just, it's whatever.
joe rogan
I think you're just accustomed to it.
In the beginning, was it better?
brendan schaub
Oh, night and day difference.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
In the beginning, when you first get it fixed, and you have all the bandage up there, or they take the stitch out and pull it out, you're like...
joe rogan
I didn't get my nose fixed until I was 40 years old.
For 40 fucking years, I had a shattered nose with just the whole inside of it was blocked.
It was nothing.
I had like one quarter of one nostril that was useful.
bryan callen
And that surgery is real fun, isn't it?
joe rogan
Is that better?
brendan schaub
Well, look at Drikas Duplicy's.
joe rogan
Yes.
brendan schaub
Because I called bullshit when his coach was like, he's only breathing 8%.
I'm like, come on, man.
unidentified
Not 8%.
brendan schaub
That's ridiculous.
You know, it's ridiculous.
But I was like, come on, that's not a cardio thing.
And they're like, wait, do you see him in this next fight?
His cardio's going to be better.
joe rogan
Way better.
My cardio was way better.
My cardio was at least 10% better when I got my nose fixed.
Because you can breathe out of your nose.
Like, if you can't breathe out of your nose, especially if you're doing jujitsu and your mouth is getting covered all the time, you're like, all you have is your mouth to breathe out of.
brendan schaub
And also, as a fighter, breathing out of your mouth is trouble.
joe rogan
Yeah, because your jaw's open, you can get rocked easier.
bryan callen
For two years, I walked around like this, pulling my nose so I could breathe.
That's why I got that operation.
brendan schaub
You got a hunker on your mind.
bryan callen
My operation went bad.
joe rogan
Did you ever get those things that stick?
Did they work?
Yes.
Did they do anything?
bryan callen
Well, so they put them in there for the first 12 days.
brendan schaub
Theo has them on at all hours of the day.
joe rogan
Theo's so crazy.
brendan schaub
He's so funny.
He would just show up one day at the studio.
I'm like, where the fuck?
You don't wear it on the studio?
He's like, yeah, man, I need to breathe.
I'm like, all right.
He's like, you ever tried?
I'm like, no.
joe rogan
Hickson used to roll with those on.
brendan schaub
They work.
brian simpson
Speaking of which, where's the smelling salts?
joe rogan
Oh, we got them.
brendan schaub
You ready to go back in?
It's your first companion, huh?
joe rogan
You ready to go back in?
Brian had the funniest reaction ever to smelling salts because we opened up a fresh, ah, one of the fresh ones, and as soon as he opened up, he threw his headphones off and ran out of the room.
If you do it now, there's not a lot of room to run.
You're going to have to have it.
unidentified
Don't run over the fucking TV. We got a freshie.
joe rogan
Oh, this one hasn't been opened.
brendan schaub
Nothing better than- No, thank you.
unidentified
What do you mean?
joe rogan
You're getting in, bro.
I hate those things.
Of course you hate it.
Everybody hates it.
I hate it too, but I'm about to do it.
Let's fucking go.
You gotta do it, B. This is so strong.
This is so strong.
Look, it's sealed.
Okay, I just broke the seal.
brendan schaub
You can still get it.
joe rogan
And then the lid of the thing is sealed as well.
And you still, you smell it through that.
Ah, fuck you!
brendan schaub
That's not through that!
joe rogan
That's not the real deal.
brendan schaub
That's just foreplay, buddy.
joe rogan
It's still sealed.
unidentified
Yeah.
God!
joe rogan
Yeah.
Still sealed.
brian simpson
That shit's powerful.
Is that the same one?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
brian simpson
That's the same level?
joe rogan
Yeah.
But this is how you want to get them.
You want to get them fresh.
Like, right when you open it.
brian simpson
You said that's not the real deal?
joe rogan
Oh, this is the real deal.
brendan schaub
No, the real deal.
Once he open it, it's the real deal.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
brendan schaub
Him smelling through the fucking bottle, that's some bitch shit.
unidentified
Through the bag.
joe rogan
Smell the bag.
Just the bag.
unidentified
Mmm.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Takes me back.
joe rogan
Takes you back.
So look, now I'm going to break the seal.
brendan schaub
Get ready, boys.
joe rogan
It's still sealed.
brian simpson
Oh my god.
joe rogan
It's still sealed.
The top is sealed.
brendan schaub
Get ready, boys.
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
Here we go.
brendan schaub
This shit fires me up.
joe rogan
Here we go.
Oh my god, I'm smelling from here.
brian simpson
Woo!
unidentified
No, get in there, B. Get in there, B. Yeah.
Fuck you.
brian simpson
Get some closeness.
joe rogan
Fuck you.
Oh my goodness.
Wah!
unidentified
Ha ha ha!
Ha ha ha!
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Gah!
It's Joey right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, dawg.
Nothing to ask for, Brian.
brendan schaub
You brought this on, and it's early.
I was going to wait until at least a co-main event.
brian simpson
Hey, what's this, huh?
joe rogan
Fuck you.
Dude, dude, I'm fucking hot.
Dude, dude, I'm fucking hot.
brian simpson
Dude, guys, good night.
brendan schaub
Dude, whippets and shit.
unidentified
Fuck.
joe rogan
I'll tell you what, that wakes you up before a show.
We have them in the green room.
We pop a little sniff before you go on stage.
brendan schaub
I live in my garage every morning before I get out and head to work.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Oh yeah.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
You're all in.
Have you had these?
The Lucy's?
The Breakers?
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
Oh, these are good.
They're eights.
brian simpson
You know, people are constantly sending us.
bryan callen
Same thing.
joe rogan
Lucy's have eights, and they have like a little mint thing in it.
When you chew it, the mint thing breaks.
It tastes good in your mouth.
brendan schaub
They're eight milligrams?
joe rogan
Eight milligrams?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
You got 24 in right now.
bryan callen
You got 24?
joe rogan
How many do you have in there?
brendan schaub
Four.
bryan callen
His blood pressure is very high.
brendan schaub
No, it's good.
bryan callen
You have 24 milligrams in your mouth?
He's a maniac.
brendan schaub
I go through two cans a day, Doug.
joe rogan
What are you using?
Which one?
brendan schaub
Black buffalo.
Oh my god.
bryan callen
Maniac.
joe rogan
Good lord.
bryan callen
Yeah, yeah.
You push the envelope.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's not even an envelope anymore.
You've got a satchel filled with envelopes.
brian simpson
The directions say to keep it a foot away from your face.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up, pussy.
bryan callen
I had to get in there.
joe rogan
The first time you did it, Brian, you got it up to your nose.
You put it like an inch from your nose and took a deep swig.
brian simpson
I think I damaged my sinuses.
brendan schaub
Pure pressure works like a motherfucker.
brian simpson
He says, do not use more than a few times a day.
brendan schaub
He was like, I'm not doing that.
I would never.
I said, don't be a bitch.
unidentified
I got it.
I'll try it.
joe rogan
Well, he just saw it.
That's how fun it is.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's a good time.
unidentified
It is fun.
bryan callen
That was like the last time we did a fight companion.
I go, I'm just going to microdose.
And you like pushed over a giant piece of chocolate.
I was like, I think that might be a little...
And you're like, don't be a bitch.
I was like, okay.
unidentified
I was texting you from the plane.
bryan callen
I can't negotiate my plane seat.
brendan schaub
Hand me the Lucy, man.
One ain't going to do it for a trial there.
joe rogan
I think there's one more in there.
brendan schaub
That's the same flavor you gave me?
joe rogan
But you already have 24?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the same flavor.
brendan schaub
I took the 24 out because I don't mix flavors.
joe rogan
Well now you get 16. So you'll have two of those, it'll be 16. To see if your heart will stop.
Blue season for people who are tired.
But I like it better than Zin.
A lot better.
Because Zin gives you this weird flavor in your mouth.
brendan schaub
It's a toxic flavor.
joe rogan
It doesn't seem good.
So I like, you know, there's another one called, I think that's empty.
I think there's another one called Athletic THC that I really like.
I mean, not Athletic THC. Athletic Nicotine.
bryan callen
So how long have you been doing nicotine?
joe rogan
Like a year.
unidentified
Why?
bryan callen
Because it's good for your brain?
joe rogan
It fires you up, man.
It's good as a nootropic.
It actually helps your brain.
It helps cognitive performance.
The real problem is cigarettes.
Cigarettes are not good.
brendan schaub
But the nicotine is actually good for your brain.
bryan callen
A lot of great books were written on cigarettes.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah, nicotine is great.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, Stephen King said that.
Stephen King said when he stopped smoking cigarettes, it was one of the biggest issues.
Like, stopping cocaine and drinking was fine, but cigarettes, he was like, ooh.
brendan schaub
His books got super boring.
joe rogan
They weren't as good.
bryan callen
He said that he doesn't remember writing Cujo.
joe rogan
That's why it's so good.
bryan callen
Yep.
And then he said this.
His wife came in and she started cleaning up cans.
And he goes, God, I kept cans everywhere.
When was the last time we cleaned this place?
And it was literally the whole place was covered with beer cans.
And she goes, this is the past three days.
And he was like, I'm drinking a lot.
He didn't even realize it.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, if you want to be good, you want to really write the kind of shit that he wrote when he was young, you've got to push that motherfucking envelope.
brendan schaub
You can't do anything in moderation.
bryan callen
No, he actually in his book said, I was a very creative guy who had a substance abuse problem.
It's not that I had a substance abuse problem and therefore I was creative.
He said, don't get it twisted.
Because I always had a great imagination.
But I just...
joe rogan
I don't know.
I am of a belief that it helps you.
I really am.
unidentified
I'm not.
bryan callen
But I do think that it's a personality type.
So it might go hand in hand, right?
With an extreme...
It all comes together, maybe.
joe rogan
I think it opens up doors in your imagination that will stay closed.
brendan schaub
Yep, and you can't get there unless you're under that.
bryan callen
But it depends on what drug, right?
I don't know about alcohol.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, I've never fucked with cocaine, but he was a big cocaine user, and, like, The Shining was all on cocaine.
brendan schaub
Great movie.
joe rogan
Fucking great book.
brendan schaub
Fantastic.
joe rogan
The book is insane.
bryan callen
Unbelievable.
joe rogan
He didn't like the movie.
He felt like Jack Nicholson was too crazy too quick.
bryan callen
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he thought, like, in the movie, the guy becomes crazy.
The guy's like a normal dude who becomes crazy during the staying at the Overlook.
It's a build.
brendan schaub
That was shot in Colorado.
bryan callen
Such a good movie.
joe rogan
So here we go.
First fight, Volkan Ozdemir, and who's he fighting?
Johnny Walker, right?
brendan schaub
Johnny Walker, the hell of a fight.
Dude, the odds are even on this.
The odd makers went somebody's getting knocked out.
joe rogan
Johnny Walker can knock out anybody.
bryan callen
How does he get down to 205, please?
joe rogan
It's so hard to believe.
He's so big.
When you stand next to him, he's massive.
Like, he easily could be a heavyweight.
bryan callen
Easily.
brendan schaub
Dude, it'd be fun if Johnny Walker wins this one.
Can you imagine him and Alex?
That's a motherfucking fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, but is that possible?
brendan schaub
Why not?
brian simpson
He's got the Neanderthal forehead.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a big fella.
unidentified
I have a question.
brendan schaub
Why not, Joe?
joe rogan
Because I don't think he's won enough.
I don't think it's compelling.
He would have to beat a Jamal Hill.
He would have to beat a Yuri Prohaska.
brendan schaub
I'm not saying next.
I'm saying I hope he wins and continues to win.
He's about two away from it.
At light heavyweight, you win two big fights.
You're there, bro.
joe rogan
Right.
It's like one step below heavyweight, right?
Like look at Yuri.
He won one fight, now he's back.
brendan schaub
Yep.
Heavyweight's pretty slim.
bryan callen
Joe, why didn't Ankoliyev get that fight?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
Yeah, he's very good.
brendan schaub
Also, you know why, right?
joe rogan
They might have offered him that fight, and he might have said no.
They might have thought that his fight with Jan Bohovic was boring.
I disagree heavily.
I think Jan Bohovic is a fucking animal.
And if you want to survive against Jan Bohovic, you've got to fight smart.
You can't ask a guy to fight stupid just so everybody can cheer.
brendan schaub
But to Dana White's point, it's a business of entertainment, too.
joe rogan
Right, but he looked entertaining in all of his other fights.
brendan schaub
I just know he has a draw before that, bro.
joe rogan
With who?
brendan schaub
And Kalayev had a draw before that.
joe rogan
Who did he have?
brendan schaub
With Jan.
joe rogan
Oh, but again, Jan Bohovich, fucking animal.
Four minutes and thirty seconds, 4.29, 4.28, 4.27, 4.26 if you want to sync it up.
brendan schaub
Like, I like what the UFC did with Izzy, right?
He's coming off a loss, and then he's been out, what, a year at least?
And then they're giving him a title shot.
I think that's what makes the UFC the UFC, because they're going, no, no, we're not just giving the guy a title shot who we think is next.
Like, what Izzy did, his body of work, you can lose one and still be a huge draw.
What's the difference between fucking UFC and boxing?
joe rogan
That's true, but if that's true, why didn't Sean get the rematch?
Because Sean won that fight, I thought.
I thought it was very close, but I thought Strickland should have got the decision.
Why not give him a rematch?
brendan schaub
If you're a purist, which I'm both, right?
I get the business entertainment side in the purist.
If you're a purist, Sean Strickland 100% should be next.
And he beat Paulo Costa.
I thought he beat Dreykus as well.
joe rogan
But the thing is about Tricus is, these guys are angry at each other.
You know, there's like a lot of hype, it's a good fight to sell, all that shit-talking.
brendan schaub
It'd get more views than a Strickland rematch.
joe rogan
Maybe.
Ah, Strickland's a big fucking star, man.
He's so awkward, dude.
His style.
unidentified
Is he?
brendan schaub
And there's a story with him?
bryan callen
John's getting pieced up right now.
joe rogan
Yeah, Ostomir can crack.
And the problem with Johnny Walker is he's been KO'd a gang of times.
brendan schaub
Yeah, his defense is suspect usually.
joe rogan
A lot of guys have put him away.
bryan callen
Jamal Hill.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
Didn't he win his last fight on a DQ? I don't know.
joe rogan
The Jamal one was crazy.
Jamal hit him on the forehead and his hands flew up in the air and he went, oh, there it is.
There it is.
He got rocked.
bryan callen
I got it.
joe rogan
He's in trouble.
He's in trouble.
He's in trouble already.
Ozdemir might get him here.
bryan callen
He's letting him get him against the cage like that.
Get out of the way, bro.
joe rogan
He's got to get out of there.
He's in trouble.
He's in real trouble.
Oh, don't do that.
He does a lot of wild shit.
You can't do wild shit when you're really hurt.
bryan callen
Ozdemir's technically very proficient.
unidentified
Look at that.
joe rogan
Oh, he's out.
He's out.
brendan schaub
Stop it.
joe rogan
Out cold.
Out cold.
brendan schaub
But that's why I went to SPG, because he needed to tighten up, because he's wild.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's...
bryan callen
Damn, dude.
joe rogan
That's happened too many times.
brian simpson
How's your reflex that lowered flying me?
Wow.
joe rogan
He's just trying to be crazy.
Just trying to do anything.
But you can't do that with Volkan.
Volkan Ozdemir can punch so hard.
brendan schaub
At a certain level, the fundamentals are going to beat you.
The guys are that good.
joe rogan
And Ozdemir's been out for a bit, right?
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And he had some losses, too.
joe rogan
Oh, he's had some losses.
Yeah.
bryan callen
But he's a good striker, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, very solid hands there.
bryan callen
Beautiful hands.
joe rogan
He hurt him, and then once Johnny Walker gets hurt, I think he's just been KO'd too many times.
Oh, there's that left hook.
unidentified
That's nice.
brendan schaub
And once it goes, it goes.
There's nothing you can do.
joe rogan
But this was a bad one.
I mean, he got flattened.
bryan callen
I just think Johnny Walker had all the physical gifts, but I just didn't have the kind of fundamentals like Ozdemir does.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Yeah, look at that.
unidentified
Boom.
bryan callen
It's too good.
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
That's awful.
unidentified
Out cold.
bryan callen
That's awful.
joe rogan
Out cold.
And the other thing is, like, Johnny Walker probably sucks a lot of weight to get to 205. And that definitely messes with your chin.
brendan schaub
Yep.
bryan callen
That's a terrible shot.
brendan schaub
That last shot is awful.
joe rogan
Oh, that last shot's rough.
Look at his eyes roll back in his head.
brendan schaub
When you're sucking that much weight, it's gonna fuck your brain up.
joe rogan
100%.
brendan schaub
To clean your body of all that water.
joe rogan
And he's 6'6", 205?
brendan schaub
How?
Hey, bro, go to heavyweight.
joe rogan
Yeah, go to heavyweight.
brendan schaub
Go to fucking heavyweight.
joe rogan
He might be a really good heavyweight, man, and that is a shallow pool.
brendan schaub
Super shallow.
joe rogan
Like, you could lose, like, multiple fights and still be in the hunt.
brendan schaub
And there's a lot of strikers for him.
joe rogan
Sure.
brendan schaub
Rosenstrug, you know, you've got a ton of guys.
bryan callen
Yeah, but nowadays, now that he's been flat-lined a lot.
joe rogan
Yeah, it might be over.
I mean, you've got to think of all the different people that have gotten him.
brendan schaub
Well, remember he was doing the worm when he won and blew his shoulder out.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was crazy.
unidentified
Oh, no.
brendan schaub
So, Johnny Walker won a fight, I think it was in Brazil, and he started celebrating, doing the worm, and literally fell too hard and blew his shoulder out.
joe rogan
It was out like a year and a half.
Shoulder reconstructed.
brendan schaub
Doing the worm.
joe rogan
Tore his shoulder apart.
bryan callen
So dumb.
joe rogan
Yeah, for nothing.
brendan schaub
Did you see Connor's injury?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Thoughts?
unidentified
Well...
brendan schaub
Pinky toe.
joe rogan
It's exactly what Pajeda had when he beat Jamal Hill.
He had a broken toe, too.
brendan schaub
A lot of guys have had a...
Now it's the pinky toe.
A lot of guys...
I fought with a broken pinky toe.
joe rogan
I knew about it in advance.
Look, here's the thing about a broken pinky toe.
When you're a guy who kicks as much as Conor, it's a fucking problem.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
And it's also the same foot where his leg was snapped and he went into that fight injured.
He's never pulled out of a fight before.
Never.
This is the first one he pulled out of, and I think it's wise.
Because I think if you do have a broken toe and you are going into a fight and you did go into a fight the last fight injured, what if that fucking toe becomes a real issue?
What if he throws a kick and it smashes again and he's in agony and he can't move?
brendan schaub
I thought you and I were going to disagree on this.
I couldn't agree more.
And you've got to realize what's on the line for Conor too.
He loses this one, the ride's over.
So why risk it?
joe rogan
You've got to be able to get the fuck out of the way with Michael Chandler.
brendan schaub
So you're not going to go in compromised and it's the leg that's already fucked up.
You want your best foot forward, no pun intended.
brian simpson
And he spends a lot of time bouncing on his toes.
brendan schaub
That's his biggest asset against Chandler.
You've got to in and out, stick a move, kicks.
joe rogan
You can't do that with a broken toe.
bryan callen
You can't tie that toe to the other toe.
joe rogan
You can, but it's going to be compromised.
brendan schaub
You're still not a hundo.
Now, if this is Connor six years ago, he's fighting all day.
Excuse me, he fought Chad Mendes with a blown fucking knee and still beat him.
And it was on short notice.
Still beat him.
So, don't get it twisted.
Connor's a savage and he's a fighter's fighter.
But this, I think finally his team's like, dude, I'm addicted.
joe rogan
Okay, I'll take one of those.
Yeah, boys.
We got more?
brendan schaub
The only person who drinks more Diet Coke than me.
bryan callen
I'm good unless the cool kids are doing it and then I'll drink it.
I never drink Diet Coke.
joe rogan
Why don't you drink Diet Coke?
bryan callen
I don't know.
joe rogan
Are you scared of ascertainment?
brendan schaub
You think it's fucking poison?
bryan callen
I disagree.
My temple's super pure.
brian simpson
I love Diet Coke.
bryan callen
I scrubbed my temple clean.
brendan schaub
Dude, we're gonna get along, brother.
We're gonna get along.
brian simpson
You know, they try to remake it to taste just like Coca-Cola.
brendan schaub
Talking about Coke Zero?
brian simpson
Yeah, that's why Coke Zero came about.
They tried to make a better Diet Coke, but people had already liked the flavor of Diet Coke, so they had to...
joe rogan
Coke Zero doesn't bother me.
bryan callen
I like it.
joe rogan
It's kind of the same.
brendan schaub
If it's there, I'll take it.
I can tell the difference.
But you know why they came out with Coke Zero?
Because the sales of Diet Coke were going down, because men were embarrassed to order Diet Coke, so they thought it was more of a female drink, so they're like, all right, let's do Coke Zero.
What men are these?
bryan callen
They did that with Miller.
They called it the champagne of beers to get women.
What?
brendan schaub
They don't know their audience.
bryan callen
Yeah, that's what they did know.
But initially, it came out and it was the champagne of beers.
How do we get women to drink beer?
Call it the champagne of beers.
It's like with cigarettes, they used to call them freedom torches during the suffragette movement.
So they wanted to get women to smoke.
It was considered not very feminine.
So Freud's grandson, Edward Bernays, Was like, I know how to do this.
We'll fucking just tell them that these are freedom torches.
So all these feminists now were like smoking their...
No man tells me, and they started smoking.
unidentified
Really?
bryan callen
Yep.
And he's the same guy that got people to say breakfast is the most important meal of the day.
Well, that was all because the pork lobby came to him and they were like, hey, we got to get people to eat more pork.
And he's like, cool, say less.
We'll just call it bacon is part of a breakfast, a good...
So unhealthy.
unidentified
Yep.
bryan callen
And breakfast is the most important.
brendan schaub
So unhealthy.
joe rogan
How so?
brendan schaub
Bacon?
joe rogan
Yeah, how so?
brendan schaub
All the cholesterol, all the fat, no?
joe rogan
No.
No, nonsense.
bryan callen
I love it.
joe rogan
Absolute, complete nonsense.
bryan callen
Are you an American?
joe rogan
Saturated fat is not bad for you in any way, shape, or form.
That is all, again, that's all the sugar movement.
The sugar industry trick people into thinking that saturated fat is a problem.
brendan schaub
How many calories are in one piece of bacon?
joe rogan
Calories aren't the problem, brother.
bryan callen
If you're working out.
joe rogan
It's sugar and bullshit is the problem.
brendan schaub
Calories aren't the problem if you're working out.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, overeating is always a problem, but calories from saturated fat are not a problem.
Cholesterol is what creates myelin, which is literally what the fucking brain is made out of.
Cholesterol is responsible for all your hormone production.
Cholesterol is responsible for so much in the human body.
It's not bad for you at all.
It's just a crock of shit.
What's bad for you is processed food.
What's bad for you is sugar and excess of carbohydrates, bullshit food, seed oils.
There's a lot of things that people get connected to, that they connect to, and they say this is bad for you because of this.
brendan schaub
But actual real bacon's not bad for you.
joe rogan
It's not bad for you.
It's just fat.
Fat is good for you.
Look, if you're on a ketogenic diet, which is very healthy for you, ketogenic diet, those people eat a shitload of bacon.
unidentified
That guy's a fucking stone-cold killer.
brendan schaub
That's a fucking fight, bro.
bryan callen
Has he knocked out everybody he's fought?
joe rogan
Not everybody, but pretty close.
brendan schaub
That's a great card.
joe rogan
He's fucking terrifying, man.
brian simpson
I'm trying to remember who he reminds me of.
joe rogan
Diego Lopez and Brian Ortega is a fight, son.
How about this Anthony Smith-Roman Delice fight?
How much has that card changed?
You know, it was supposed to be Jamal Hill, Khalil Roundtree.
Khalil Roundtree falls out, and then Jamal Hill's going to go out against Carlos Olberg.
I'm like, ooh, I love that.
And then Jamal hurts his knee, and then Carlos Olberg, for some reason, is out.
Why is Olberg out?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
And then he's supposed to fight Anthony Smith, and Anthony Smith stays, and now he's playing homeboy.
brian simpson
Have I not been paying attention?
When did Michael Page get into the UFC? Recently.
brendan schaub
He had one fight.
bryan callen
That's going to be a great fight.
joe rogan
That's another great fight.
bryan callen
I can't wait.
brian simpson
I want to see if he gets away with all the shit at this level.
joe rogan
Well, he's going to fight Ian Gary, who is really tall, but I don't think he's going to be able to hit that dude.
brendan schaub
You don't think Ian Gary will?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Oh, I disagree.
joe rogan
Michael Van and Page is a different thing.
brendan schaub
Oh, he'll put his lights up.
joe rogan
You think so?
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I think Ian Gary's the next...
He's it, man.
That dude's so talented.
joe rogan
I think he's sensational, but he's been hit before, and he's been rocked and dropped.
Michael Van and Page is a different thing inside the octagon.
brendan schaub
Michael Van and Page has been hit before, too?
joe rogan
Right, right.
By Diego Lima.
brendan schaub
Correct.
Or Douglas.
joe rogan
Douglas.
brendan schaub
Interesting.
I like Page, but I think Ian Gary's that guy.
joe rogan
I think he's going to have a really hard time finding that guy.
brendan schaub
You know what I think?
joe rogan
You saw the Kevin Holland fight?
unidentified
Yep.
joe rogan
He was like, where the fuck is he?
He couldn't find him.
Couldn't even touch him.
unidentified
True.
joe rogan
That point, elite point fighting style with all the MMA skills that Michael Venn and Page has, that is one of the most puzzling problems to deal with inside the octagon.
brendan schaub
Yeah, look at Alex.
Thriving.
Pierre, thriving.
joe rogan
Right, but it's not...
Alex is not a point fighter.
It's a different style.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm just saying his elite level of striking makes up for the other holes in the game.
joe rogan
Sure, but we've had elite strikers before.
The difference with Michael Venom-Page is Michael Venom-Page is an elite point fighter.
His style of hitting and not getting hit and being able to close distance really fast, fucking nobody's like that.
brendan schaub
Wonderboy?
Closest?
joe rogan
Close.
But not at that level.
Not at that level.
Wonderboy was a kickboxer.
brendan schaub
Correct.
joe rogan
A very elite striker.
Very elite kickboxer.
But the difference between kickboxing and point fighting is that blitz.
That blitz.
And Michael Venom Page is so unorthodox.
brendan schaub
I think that could be one of those fights.
Remember when Francis and Derek Lewis were going to fight and were like, Bro, this fight's going one minute.
Get ready.
And it went to a decision.
So boring.
joe rogan
Right.
brendan schaub
Sometimes when you have those two high-level strikers and it's that style, I'm not saying it's going to be boring.
There's a chance it can be really fucking boring.
Because it's so calculated, so strategic, and neither guy wants to engage because of all these faints.
joe rogan
Michael Vanden Page has never been in a boring fight in his fucking life.
bryan callen
He's amazing.
joe rogan
Michael Vanden Page is an entertainer.
brian simpson
Some of those Bellator ones are tough.
brendan schaub
He's great, don't be wrong, but some of those Bellator ones were tough.
joe rogan
I'm interested.
I'll tell you what.
You might be right, you might be wrong.
I'm interested.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I just think that he is the most difficult puzzle on the feet I've ever seen.
bryan callen
Hard to find a guy who can spar like him, too.
joe rogan
Kevin Holland couldn't do a fucking thing to him.
Couldn't do a fucking thing.
Kevin Holland is a good striker.
A very good striker.
I mean, he's a complete fighter, Kevin, but he's a very good striker.
He didn't even come close to hitting him.
That dude was just not there.
It's a different thing, man.
And he's tall as shit.
brendan schaub
There's no disrespect to Holland.
I think Ian Garrett's at a different level than those guys you mentioned.
joe rogan
I think so too.
brendan schaub
And his movement's different, his size is different, his confidence is different.
joe rogan
But Ian is also used to fighting guys that are shorter than him.
And Michael Vennepage is the first guy that's taller than him.
bryan callen
He's taller than Ian.
joe rogan
Yeah, or the same height.
brendan schaub
Similar, yeah.
It's not like a huge advantage.
But also, age is a factor as well.
joe rogan
That's true.
brendan schaub
That's true.
Ian's just getting his prime.
Dude, when those guys are like 27, 26, 28, good fucking luck.
joe rogan
And they get so much better so quick.
Yeah.
bryan callen
The first thing to go is speed.
joe rogan
It's kind of interesting that Ian, Gary, and Colby never came out.
Because that, like, Ian was calling him out.
brendan schaub
Colby said he declined it because he's not famous enough yet.
joe rogan
That's so crazy and so incorrect.
It's so incorrect.
bryan callen
Wait, wait, wait.
Who was saying that?
joe rogan
Colby was saying he's not famous yet, but meanwhile, Colby's lost most of his last fights.
I think it's an interesting fight because Colby is a motherfucker, man.
Talk all the shit you want about that guy, but that guy can close the distance.
He can fuck his fucking gas tanks off the charts.
bryan callen
His foot broke 30 seconds into that fight with Leon Edwards.
Leon Edwards.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
Like, he had a broken foot.
It's broken in three places.
He came to my show in Miami.
He was still, he was like 85%.
That was three weeks ago.
So that was a real fucked up foot.
joe rogan
Oh, no doubt.
bryan callen
Like, he was walking on it tender.
joe rogan
Yeah, no doubt.
bryan callen
You fought that fucking dude for 25 minutes with a broken foot in three places?
That's a bad motherfucker.
joe rogan
Also, Leon Edwards is the best striker in the division.
He's the most technical, the most dangerous.
bryan callen
Sure, but he was in that fight.
joe rogan
I love watching Leon move.
Just the way he moves.
Just the technique, the precision, everything.
It's just so fucking...
Everything.
It's just so...
No wasted movement.
Yeah, it's like what you want to see in an elite striker, you see in Leon.
brendan schaub
I also like him because there's no really shit-talking.
He's not on Instagram doing TikTok dances.
You just respect him for his fucking skill set.
Look at me now!
joe rogan
Look at me now!
brendan schaub
Great story.
Headshot bang!
He's the fucking man.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's the fucking man.
brian simpson
You don't expect him to sound British.
I still don't.
Every time he talks, it's a surprise.
brendan schaub
We'll see what happens if Islam goes up there.
joe rogan
Did I ever tell you the time?
I think I've told it on the podcast before.
I ever tell you the time that there was this dude that was, I don't want to say who he worked for, but he was a bodyguard and he talked shit to Leon Edwards when Leon was with me.
I brought Leon to a show.
Leon did my podcast.
Then I brought Leon.
We went and did a show with Chappelle.
Me and him were hanging out.
Then afterwards, we all went out to this club.
This, like, after-hours party that David set up.
brendan schaub
Okay.
joe rogan
Dave sets up these shows, like, he does the shows, and after the shows, he likes to set up a party.
So he has, like, a DJ, he brings in foods, fun hang.
But it was at the end of the night, and this guy decided he was going to kick everybody out.
And for some reason...
He singled out Leon Edwards and he got in his face and he said like, hey man, I fucking told you it's time to leave.
brian simpson
Fantastic.
joe rogan
And then I got in between him.
I said, I know you probably made some fucked up mistakes in your life.
You're about to make the biggest one.
brendan schaub
Did you say you know who that is?
joe rogan
Exactly what I said.
I pulled him aside.
brendan schaub
And what'd he do?
joe rogan
And he went like a ghost.
I go, that's one of the baddest motherfuckers on the planet.
You're about to make one of the biggest mistakes of your life.
I go, he's cool.
There's no reason to talk to him like that.
He didn't do anything wrong.
He doesn't know.
He's here with me.
And he's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
unidentified
And then after he sees him knock out Kamaru, he's like, oh no.
joe rogan
He sees his life pass before his eyes when he was watching it on TV. You want to go viral, bud?
brendan schaub
You can, but it's made the wrong way.
joe rogan
I was like, if you're going to do this, let me get my phone out.
bryan callen
That's like the guy fucking with Joe Schilling, like, tried to pick a fight with him before that.
He was, like, mouthing off to him the whole time before that, and Joe's like, Jesus.
joe rogan
Oh, was he?
He was mouthing off?
I know he was a dick to people at the bar.
brendan schaub
No, he was a mouthing off to him.
He was mouthing off to, like, other people at the bar.
bryan callen
He was mouthing off also to Joe.
The whole story is that he was just a dick from start, and Joe was like, are you kidding me?
joe rogan
You can kind of see that.
He seemed like a dickhead, just the way he was behaving.
Isn't that...
That's one of the most wonderful instant karma videos of all time.
bryan callen
Oh, the greatest.
joe rogan
It's, like, one of the greatest viral videos.
bryan callen
Fuck with Joe Schilling.
brendan schaub
The best.
joe rogan
But what a mistake.
Karma put one of the scariest humans alive in front of him.
You don't know this?
This is a scene in a bar.
Joe Schilling is a friend of mine.
He's a world champion, kickboxer, elite strike.
brendan schaub
You would look at him and go, that's not the guy I'm going to fuck with in the bar.
joe rogan
So Joe Schilling is at a bar, and he's trying to walk past this guy to get to the bathroom.
The guy backs up as Joe's walking.
He doesn't see him.
And Joe bumps into him and puts his hands on him.
This is it right here.
So this is the guy.
This is the dickhead.
bryan callen
He's been fucking with everybody in the bar the whole time.
He's talking shit.
joe rogan
He's real loud and drunk.
So that's Joe in the black shirt.
bryan callen
It's like out of a movie.
joe rogan
Joe's like, excuse me, and he passes by.
And the guy says something to him.
He turns around.
bryan callen
See how he just flinched at him?
brendan schaub
He flinches at Joe like he's going to hit him, and then Joe just hits him with that three piece and a soda.
joe rogan
And then he walks away like it ain't shit.
That's the wrong guy.
bryan callen
The wrong guy.
joe rogan
The fucking wrong guy.
Boom, boom.
bryan callen
And you've got to understand, this was the end of a long...
He was fucking with Joe and everybody else the whole time.
brendan schaub
That guy tried suing Joe and Joe won.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's Florida.
It's stand your ground.
Like, clearly a guy flinched.
Like, went like that to make him flinch.
And you don't do that to a guy that's a fucking train striker.
brendan schaub
We need more of this.
We need more of this.
bryan callen
And Joe is the farthest thing from a bully, by the way.
Super nice.
I've hung out with him many times.
brendan schaub
He's the man.
brian simpson
No hesitation, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
But the guy was picking spikes.
He was playing fights with other dudes in the heart too.
He was causing all these problems with other guys.
He was trying to pick fights.
brian simpson
But I mean, you've rarely seen people that get right to it.
unidentified
Yeah.
Oh, right to it.
brian simpson
It's usually like, shut your fucking mouth.
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
Who you talking to?
Just bing, bing, bing.
joe rogan
Wrong guy.
bryan callen
That's his language.
brian simpson
It was like a reflex.
bryan callen
Wrong guy.
He's fluent at knockout.
That's his language.
brendan schaub
It's just the wrong guy.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Straight up.
joe rogan
Joe Schilling, he fought in this battle in Los Angeles where he had to fight three times in one night.
Remember that?
Last Man Standing and Glory?
We went there live.
It was fucking insane.
He fought three times.
And it's against world-class kickboxers.
brendan schaub
And then this dude who doesn't work out came off his day job at Remax and was like, I'm going to get fucked up.
unidentified
That guy just left Best Buy with a fucking bonus check in his pocket, feeling cocky.
bryan callen
But the best thing about Joe Schilling, world champion kickboxer, most decorated American kickboxer in history, he smokes, sir.
joe rogan
Cigarettes.
bryan callen
He smokes fucking cigarettes.
joe rogan
Oh, you've seen the picture of him in our gym.
The guy smoking cigarettes.
brian simpson
That's Joe.
He's like Clint Eastwood if he fought.
When the video first started it, you said that's him in the black shirt.
I thought it was the nerdy looking dude.
I was like, oh, unsuspecting.
joe rogan
Mikey Musumechi looking dude.
brian simpson
He look like somebody you don't fuck with.
bryan callen
He's also like big.
joe rogan
He's awesome.
brendan schaub
Look at his fucking face.
It's like a great white shark.
Out of all the people to talk shit to.
bryan callen
He just smokes.
unidentified
He smokes.
brendan schaub
He's fucking Nick Nolte with his fucking world-class hands.
joe rogan
Deep voice.
bryan callen
What?
Tatted up.
brendan schaub
And then look at that guy.
joe rogan
You gotta love moments.
Yeah.
Yeah, he's like talking shit.
I told this guy I'm gonna beat him arm wrestling, like whatever the fuck he's saying.
bryan callen
Look at him, look at him.
brian simpson
See, I thought it was him.
bryan callen
Just shoulders, fucking long legs.
joe rogan
Just an accident.
I mean, just a bump, and he had to talk shit.
I mean, the dumbest move.
brendan schaub
Hey, fuck around and find out.
bryan callen
Fuck around and find out.
joe rogan
That is, if fuck around and find out was a viral video, that's it.
brian simpson
I would love to be the level of ready to just have a two-piece in the chamber at all times.
brendan schaub
Dude, you can get there, man.
brian simpson
Nah.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know, it's not impossible.
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
It's not impossible.
brian simpson
It's like my friends that start riding motorcycles when they're 40. Nah, it's past you by.
joe rogan
You can.
brendan schaub
You could learn just a mean combo for the Austin bars, though.
joe rogan
Don't get a fucking Hayabusa, but you get a Harley.
brian simpson
Or you get a pistol.
unidentified
Just run around.
brian simpson
Just get a pistol.
joe rogan
Yeah, by the time you get that pistol, you're already asleep.
Unless you have a quick draw.
Did you see the, uh, uh, you got a hawk-tui spit on that thing?
brendan schaub
It's massive.
brian simpson
She's famous now.
joe rogan
That girl, one video, have you seen it, Brian?
bryan callen
Yeah, hawk-tui.
joe rogan
One girl gets interviewed, and it's just, I love moments like that where one weird video, it's so funny, that the whole world sees it.
brendan schaub
She's the most famous person on the planet right now.
brian simpson
So the one I saw on Instagram, the top comment underneath it, Is another woman being like, nobody needs, you don't have to spit on it.
And then it's just a thousand news.
It's like, somebody taught you wrong, bitch.
unidentified
People aren't telling you the truth.
brian simpson
Spit on it!
joe rogan
Especially the way she says it.
It's so good.
She's not pretending.
brian simpson
She said it like she passed it, but she got a certificate.
joe rogan
She's not posing.
That lady's a black belt spitting on dicks.
bryan callen
I wouldn't be that into a girl going...
joe rogan
I would be into her.
Her enthusiasm?
brendan schaub
Yeah, you would if she did it.
brian simpson
But if you hear a girl go, you're not going to be like, wait a minute.
Hold on.
joe rogan
Let's see it, Jamie.
jamie vernon
Okay.
joe rogan
Didn't I send you a bunch of good versions?
The memes of it?
brendan schaub
The original one has how many views now?
joe rogan
It has to be a hundred million.
brendan schaub
At least.
I wonder how she monetizes that.
joe rogan
I wonder what she's doing.
She's probably panicking.
Everybody knows she's making money.
Is she?
brendan schaub
Yeah, she's making money.
There's merch now.
There's like Hawk 2 merch.
joe rogan
Oh, I need to buy a shirt.
brian simpson
Yeah, bro, these kids, man, they own that social media.
brendan schaub
See, Hawk 2 24. Signed an autograph.
joe rogan
Look at her.
She's signing fucking hats.
unidentified
Only in America.
bryan callen
Only in America.
joe rogan
That is hilarious.
Let's hear the video.
bryan callen
That's fucking hilarious.
joe rogan
It's just the way she says it.
brian simpson
Right up there in the corner.
jamie vernon
I already clicked two of them and they didn't have the video on it for some reason.
bryan callen
Christ, what a weird world.
What a fucking world.
joe rogan
And it's only been like four days, right?
When did it come out?
jamie vernon
Honestly, it happened fast.
joe rogan
Who is the Hawk Tua girl taking over TikTok?
brendan schaub
It wasn't her original video.
She was doing an interview, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, some guy on the street says, what do you have to do to make a guy crazy in bed?
jamie vernon
Shit, sorry.
unidentified
Spit on that night.
Once upon a time, two girls were out on the town in Nashville, Tennessee, when a...
Spit on that night, you get me?
brendan schaub
No, no, no.
unidentified
To which one woman replied, Oh, you gotta give him that huck.
brendan schaub
Spit on that night, you get me?
unidentified
You do.
brendan schaub
You get me?
You get me?
bryan callen
Look at her laughing!
She's laughing so hard!
brendan schaub
I wonder if her dad's like, what the fuck?
Like, imagine being her dad right now.
bryan callen
Yeah, but her college is probably paid for now.
brian simpson
Nah, her dad knows.
joe rogan
Yeah, I wonder how much money she's making off of this.
bryan callen
Hopefully a lot.
joe rogan
It is smart that she jumped right on it, because you gotta think, it's only been a few days.
brendan schaub
Oh, someone blew her up in the DMs.
unidentified
June 11th.
jamie vernon
June 11th, so it's 10 days.
joe rogan
So it's 10 days.
There are a handful of other videos on Tim and Dee's page featuring the Hawk to a girl and her friend.
Since then, TikTokers claim to have found the woman, but the account is now repeatedly deleted.
Oh, she might have deleted it.
brendan schaub
Possibly doesn't remember being interviewed.
joe rogan
She got blackout drunk.
It's in Nashville.
She's probably hammered.
brendan schaub
Yeah, she's doing her thing, having fun.
joe rogan
Shara Bullet.
bryan callen
Here we go.
brian simpson
Also, where's her references, though?
I would like, the way it all to do is whose dick she's sucking, or is she just talking?
joe rogan
Those guys are about to make some TikTok videos, just, like, sitting there with a cup of coffee on the porch, like...
Let me tell you something.
It's real.
brendan schaub
Netflix's about to do a doc on it, man.
joe rogan
This is a good fight.
Tricoli is good.
brian simpson
Call it the throat goat.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That guy on the left has one eye, Brian.
Yes, he does.
The guy on the left has one eye and he only can fight in other organizations.
brendan schaub
That's why he can't come out here.
joe rogan
In other countries.
bryan callen
Because he can't get attention?
joe rogan
Because he can't see.
He can't see out of his right eye.
brian simpson
So they won't let him fight in the United States?
joe rogan
I don't believe so.
brendan schaub
He's never fought out here.
Most people think that's why.
joe rogan
One-eyed UFC fighter Shara Buten Magomedov lands killer role for acting debut in a new Hollywood movie.
Oh, nice.
jamie vernon
He's going to be in a movie soon.
brian simpson
Hey, bro, they named Indy Adolf.
I'm not fucking with him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Any kind of off?
joe rogan
He's a scary striker, too.
brendan schaub
He's fun to watch.
joe rogan
But his depth perception has got to be all fucked up because he's only got one eye.
You need two eyes for depth perception.
brendan schaub
That's Bisping.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It fucks you up.
But it doesn't matter.
He's that good.
brendan schaub
He's that good.
joe rogan
He's had like seven different operations on the eye to try to fix it.
brendan schaub
He was from childhood, right?
No, it was a fight.
joe rogan
It's from a fight.
brendan schaub
Are you sure?
joe rogan
I'm pretty sure it's from a fight.
I'm pretty sure.
Because he had the operations while he was competing.
I think it was something that happened during a fight.
I may be wrong.
brendan schaub
For some reason, I thought it was when he was a kid.
joe rogan
Jamie will find out.
I'm pretty sure the injury happened from a fight.
brian simpson
Also, how do you even not...
You don't see shit coming from that way?
unidentified
Nope.
joe rogan
He doesn't see shit out of that right eye.
bryan callen
He's got a giant...
joe rogan
What does it say?
bryan callen
Head.
joe rogan
He had to get the right eye removed completely after losing vision.
Holy shit, man.
bryan callen
If they get infected, that's why.
The eye gets infected.
joe rogan
Suffered early in his career.
brendan schaub
Before the operation, I was afraid of an infection.
God.
Dude, one eye redhead.
bryan callen
Fuck's sake.
They don't take your eyes out anymore.
They don't usually do that anymore because you have cones in your eyes that sense light even though you can't see and it regulates your circadian rhythm.
joe rogan
He's in Dagestan, man.
bryan callen
I know.
brendan schaub
They take that eye out.
bryan callen
But it fucks your sleep up.
joe rogan
Well, there might have been something wrong.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're saying something about an infection.
bryan callen
Could they get infected a lot?
brendan schaub
But they took Bisping's eye out, right?
joe rogan
No.
They used to take blind people's eyes out.
brendan schaub
He wears a plate over it.
joe rogan
Yeah, he wears like a lens over the top of it so it doesn't look so weird.
But it's just so people don't stare at his eye.
brendan schaub
I get it.
joe rogan
He's still got his eye.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Tricoli's good though, man.
Shara Bullitt does weird shit, man.
brendan schaub
He's wild, man.
joe rogan
Wild kicks.
He throws kicks like a jab.
brian simpson
He got punched twice in the face from the direction he can see it.
bryan callen
Isn't this his UFC debut?
joe rogan
No, no.
Charbois fought at least once.
brendan schaub
Hell no.
unidentified
Twice.
brendan schaub
Yeah, he's a fucking huge prospect.
joe rogan
Hasn't he fought twice?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
At least once.
I think twice.
Just once?
jamie vernon
Well, this article was he was 11-0 and he's only 12-0 now.
bryan callen
I feel like this is his first fight.
jamie vernon
Signed last year.
brendan schaub
No, this isn't his first fight.
bryan callen
Hmm.
joe rogan
So this is his second fight in the UFC? At least second fight.
brian simpson
Said he signed in 2020?
joe rogan
Yeah.
But, you know, he can't really fight in America.
Like, the Nevada State Athletic Division, they're like, there's no way, pal.
You can't see.
Like, you have to be able to see out of both eyes to fight America.
brendan schaub
I'm sure there's some places.
joe rogan
Well, we're in Saudi Arabia for these fights.
brendan schaub
No, I'm saying in America.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Like, you bring them to Kentucky, they're like, go ahead, fella.
brendan schaub
Mississippi.
joe rogan
Yeah, go on.
brian simpson
Tennessee.
joe rogan
You can close both your eyes.
I don't give a fuck.
brendan schaub
I don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
Hot to spit on that thing.
unidentified
Hot to spit on that thing.
brian simpson
You know what I'm saying?
brendan schaub
That girl had no idea that thing went fucking viral.
bryan callen
You never know what's gonna hit, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, she's just being funny with her friend.
bryan callen
You never know what's gonna be a popular video and what's not.
You just gotta keep doing them.
joe rogan
Here's one thing you do know.
If you try hard, you won't get one.
bryan callen
That's for damn sure.
joe rogan
Isn't that weird?
brian simpson
Yeah.
Yeah.
That don't stop people from trying.
joe rogan
Oh, they try so hard.
But the people that I know that try the hardest have never gotten one.
brendan schaub
Never.
joe rogan
So Tricoli just wants to take him down.
Shower Bullet has terrible takedown defense.
brendan schaub
That's his liability.
joe rogan
Also doesn't get up well.
And even in his UFC debut, he got battered on the ground.
brendan schaub
Bro, how about the main event was about to be Bo Nickel, but he was hunting in Montana and didn't have an Android phone like you guys and had no service.
joe rogan
Yeah, interesting.
brendan schaub
He was going to take that fight.
joe rogan
Interesting.
I would not have advised that.
brendan schaub
I wouldn't either, but he was down to do it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He struggled a little bit with Cody Brundage, and Cody Brundage is nowhere near where Robert...
Robert Whitaker will change your fucking life.
brendan schaub
Well, Robert Whitaker might be the best 185 on the planet.
It's up for debate.
He's up there.
joe rogan
How do you say that when...
bryan callen
I would say different.
joe rogan
Well, Drekus.
Drekus beat the shit out of him in one round.
brendan schaub
Drekus beat him.
He's fucking good, though.
joe rogan
He's very good.
brendan schaub
And he was a former world champion.
He was number one at the time.
He just beat Paulo Costa.
joe rogan
Certainly in the top five.
brian simpson
I don't know a shitload about him, about Bo Nickel, but I just keep hearing his name.
brendan schaub
He's the man.
joe rogan
They're hyping him up.
Well, he's an elite wrestler.
A real top of the food chain, blue chip wrestler.
And, you know, he's getting very good at striking.
brendan schaub
He's basically our LeBron James, but he's white.
bryan callen
I wouldn't say that.
His wrestling is super hard to see.
joe rogan
That's a ridiculous thing to say.
brendan schaub
No, the hype on him is insane.
brian simpson
You're saying he's out of high school.
brendan schaub
Hold on.
So here we go.
This is why you make the comparison to a guy like LeBron.
Because he's in wrestling.
Since he was seven, he was selling out fucking huge auditoriums wrestling.
Dominating.
Then he's on a world tour.
Then he's one of the best ever at Penn State.
And then he goes on a world circuit.
bryan callen
He's a three-time or four-time NCAA champion.
I think he won it as a freshman, right?
joe rogan
This is a good fight, boys.
brendan schaub
Anyone the Heisman of NCAA wrestling.
joe rogan
We're missing a good fight, boys.
bryan callen
Very good fight.
brendan schaub
What were we going to say, though, Joe?
joe rogan
I was saying that the difference is LeBron has been dominant and famous on a world championship level for so long.
It's more like a Jon Jones.
Jon Jones is more like the LeBron of MMA. No, he's talking about LeBron.
I'm saying that's like a prospect.
brendan schaub
You know what I'm saying, Joe?
Like as a prospect, because there's so much pressure on him, and he has how many fights?
joe rogan
Yeah, I would advise a guy like that to not fight in the UFC for a long time.
brendan schaub
I think you should get to world-class level before you get to the UFC. It's tough because outside the UFC, he's so dominant.
He's fucking so dominant.
brian simpson
So he's like, you need to strike him up?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
On the world-class level?
unidentified
100%.
brendan schaub
Because once you get there, if you're not ready, it's a marathon, not a sprint.
brian simpson
You gotta go train with them Dagestani boys.
brendan schaub
Go fuck them up.
joe rogan
He'll fuck them up in wrestling.
brendan schaub
He did already.
joe rogan
He's beaten a lot of Russians in wrestling.
bryan callen
His thing is his striking.
He's going to work on his striking.
brendan schaub
But hold up.
His striking's not, like, awful.
joe rogan
It's not awful.
brendan schaub
His thing is combining the striking and wrestling, putting it together like GSP did.
unidentified
That's right.
brendan schaub
Once he gets that, okay.
bryan callen
But Bo Nickel's a guy who's been watching...
The human body move for a very long time.
joe rogan
Me too.
bryan callen
And his timing and everything.
joe rogan
What the fuck does that mean?
brendan schaub
I'm not going to beat Hamza.
bryan callen
Timing, takedowns, everything.
So they have an easier time.
A lot of times guys like that, their learning curve is a lot steeper.
joe rogan
Well, elite athletes have a quicker learning curve.
That's for sure.
bryan callen
He did it.
joe rogan
He's an elite athlete, no doubt about it.
I mean, Bo's got massive, massive potential.
bryan callen
But even Johnny Hendricks, remember his timing?
He learned how to throw that.
brendan schaub
Not world class, though.
bryan callen
But he would knock things out because it was the same time.
joe rogan
Johnny and also pre-USADA and post-USADA Johnny are two different human beings.
brendan schaub
Correct.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like you and Mike Tyson.
It's like they're two totally different human beings.
brendan schaub
Different species.
joe rogan
Post you saw them, Johnny Hendricks is like, what?
Where'd you go?
Like, where'd you go?
brendan schaub
But also, you want to watch Johnny's fights and go, man, that's world-class striking.
unidentified
Right.
brendan schaub
He had a big fucking overhand left.
bryan callen
Yeah, he just had to take a time at well.
joe rogan
Oh, he was a tremendous power striker.
brian simpson
That doesn't make sense.
Why get worse when they're not testing anymore?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
Once they started testing.
brian simpson
Oh, okay, okay.
joe rogan
When they started testing, his body melted.
Like, there's a lot of those guys.
Like, there's documentaries online about Johnny Hendricks pre and post USADA. He's like one of the biggest examples.
brendan schaub
To be fair, though, those were the times.
joe rogan
In those pictures, you don't see much.
I mean, you see a little bit of a difference in the physique, but what's really the difference is in the shocking power.
He would just put guys to fucking sleep.
brendan schaub
Power, cardio, the way he fought, confidence.
joe rogan
Aggression, confidence.
brendan schaub
But also, to be fair to Johnny, those were the times.
bryan callen
Everybody was on.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
brendan schaub
Name somebody.
bryan callen
Go ahead.
brendan schaub
Because that was my era.
joe rogan
Those were also the TRT eras where you could do it legally.
brendan schaub
Not everyone.
They turned me down.
Whatever.
joe rogan
They turned you down for TRT? Yeah, they wouldn't let me have it.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
What did that happen?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
Haters, man.
joe rogan
I think it was already weird because Nate Marquardt was like from your area.
brendan schaub
Correct.
He really fucked us up.
joe rogan
He got popped like alien levels.
They were like, I remember that fight got canceled.
We were at the weigh-in and his fight got canceled.
And I was like, what is going on?
They're like, he's at like a, he could die.
His levels of testosterone are so hot.
brendan schaub
He has alien fucking blood.
unidentified
1900 or something.
No, it was like 24. It was super dangerous.
brendan schaub
He had nitrous oxide in his fucking bloodstream.
And then all of us, we're going to the same doctor, and then that doctor's like, see ya!
Closed up shop.
joe rogan
I'm like, hey!
Yeah, probably a good move for the doctor.
brendan schaub
I just got the deposit, bud.
joe rogan
Well, a lot of these doctors are dorks, you know, and they think they're going to be able to take these ads.
I know what I could do with you.
Because they did our, you know, they're just like, oh, TRT's legal?
Great.
We're going to fucking bang you up with all these other different things.
brendan schaub
But they don't get the commissions and all that, and you're dealing with high-level sports.
joe rogan
Right, and how many of those doctors have ever been, like, through the whole testing process?
brendan schaub
That's why Balco is so big.
joe rogan
Yeah, sure.
The clear.
brendan schaub
You know what I fuck with now?
I'm in shit.
Probably the best shape since I fought is that Transcend, where it's like peptides, TRT. What's Transcend?
joe rogan
Is it a company?
brendan schaub
It's a company, and you do your blood work probably at least every two weeks, every three weeks, and they monitor everything.
All right, you should be taking this, this, this, and this, and it's a script plan, and they send it to you.
unidentified
Oh, nice.
brendan schaub
You just start taking everything, and then they check your blood work.
That's what Cowboy's on, Bradley Martin.
bryan callen
Peptides are here.
joe rogan
That's what I do out here with Ways to Well.
Same deal.
Ways to Well is exact.
brendan schaub
I've never felt better.
I've never felt better.
joe rogan
Plenty of peptides.
brendan schaub
They have stuff for your cognitive.
For me, I need my fucking brain after getting punched.
So cognitive, energy, everything.
bryan callen
Because I had a doctor.
He looked great.
He's 65. He's a friend of mine, Jeff.
He shows up at my show and I was like, what are you doing?
He goes, peptides.
joe rogan
Yeah, peptides are incredible.
Yeah, that's why they keep out long.
Yeah, really?
Yeah, they got rid of thymosin because it was helping people get over COVID. That's how you know they're good.
No reason for it to get rid of it.
Now they're trying to get rid of BPC-157.
No reason.
brian simpson
I stocked up on it.
That shit fixed my stomach.
joe rogan
BPC-157?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Shit's magic.
joe rogan
This fight is interesting.
brendan schaub
Now I'm a guinea pig.
unidentified
I shoot myself about seven times a day, but whatever.
joe rogan
As long as you feel good.
brendan schaub
Oh yeah, I don't get fucked.
brian simpson
You know what irritated me is the Balco people.
The Balco people got caught because they went through the trash and they had their names written on the list.
bryan callen
That was Nowinski, right?
brian simpson
I was like, how the fuck you got my name written?
brendan schaub
Nowinski caught him, yes.
joe rogan
The Balco people?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Nowinski's the head guy that caught him.
bryan callen
Yeah, they caught him going through the garbage.
brendan schaub
Victor Conte's the man.
bryan callen
Victor Conte knew his shit, man.
unidentified
Fucker.
brendan schaub
Yes, please.
brian simpson
How do you do a crime and write it down and put it in the trash?
brendan schaub
I'd be pissed.
If I was Barry Bonds, I'd be like, what the fuck are you doing?
joe rogan
That is funny.
brian simpson
Do you know what's at risk here?
brendan schaub
You put a signed baseball in the trash, bitch?
joe rogan
You ruined the fucking...
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's how you got caught.
bryan callen
Dude, homeboy can kick...
He's kicking his lower leg.
He's doing that Pierre thing where he doesn't turn his hips over.
He just soccer kicks your fucking calf.
He's tough as shit.
joe rogan
Oh, Joe?
Oh, my God.
brendan schaub
Joe, let me ask you this.
If you're, back to the Conor thing, if you're Michael Chandler, what do you do?
joe rogan
Fight somebody.
You fight somebody.
Yeah, Max Holloway, BMF. I hear people are talking about that fight.
That's an amazing fight.
He needs money.
brendan schaub
Doing the sphere.
joe rogan
You can't not fight for two fucking years.
brendan schaub
He's pretty good.
He's very smart, has a bunch of businesses.
joe rogan
I'm sure, but wouldn't it be nice if he was making millions over those two years?
Even if you're doing well, two years is a long time.
He's got a family.
brendan schaub
Yeah, and he's paid pretty handsomely from the UFC, you know?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Max Holloway, him BMF title.
I like Max at 55 anyway.
joe rogan
I do too, but the problem is...
brendan schaub
Topuria went hard in the paint.
joe rogan
They want Topuria versus Max.
That's what Max wants.
brendan schaub
I don't like it.
joe rogan
That's what he wants next.
You don't like that?
brendan schaub
Well, don't get me wrong.
That's a great fucking fight.
Yeah, I like Max at 55, especially now.
He's getting a little older with his output.
I think he can do a lot of damage there.
joe rogan
He's not old, dude.
brendan schaub
He's like 32. Bro, in fighting years, he's 77. You know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Sort of.
How many punches he's thrown?
brendan schaub
He's 77 years old.
joe rogan
But he's so smart.
His style's so good.
brendan schaub
Dude, outside, and if Islam goes to 170, I mean, I don't see why Max can't be champ.
unidentified
I'm the best boxer in the UFC! Maniacs.
brian simpson
What the fuck is impossible to take down?
joe rogan
Shara Bullitt.
Well, he's gotten a lot better with his takedown defense, but Tricoli's not exactly bow nickel.
brendan schaub
No.
joe rogan
But it's a good fight.
unidentified
Yeah, he's tough though.
joe rogan
Rough.
But the thing is, like, Shara Bullitt's gonna face this with everyone.
That was a nice elbow in the clinch.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's gonna get a dicey for him.
brian simpson
If he keeps winning...
bryan callen
Oh, he just cut him off.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Oh, he just hurt Tricoli.
Tricoli's in trouble.
bryan callen
Yeah, he did.
joe rogan
Oh, look at that.
bryan callen
Yeah, he did.
joe rogan
Dropped on a single.
bryan callen
Yep.
brendan schaub
Dude, what do you do if you're the UFC and you put all this stock in Hamzat?
Eventually, they just go, fuck it.
Fuck it.
We've got to move on.
joe rogan
So, did he get food poisoning?
Is that what happened?
brendan schaub
Somebody from his team said that.
bryan callen
But then they backed off that story.
brendan schaub
Such a bad story.
Come on, fellas.
joe rogan
Did they back off the story?
bryan callen
I think so.
brendan schaub
Yeah, I think so.
bryan callen
I think Darren Till said something.
I don't remember.
joe rogan
What are they saying there?
brendan schaub
Bo Nickel alluded to the fact that he's always partying and hanging out all the time.
joe rogan
That Hamzat is?
unidentified
Yeah.
bryan callen
Interesting.
joe rogan
Well, Hamzat's got a lot of bread, bro.
bryan callen
He does?
joe rogan
He's got a lot of money.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's hanging out with some people that have a lot of money.
brendan schaub
And the same people Khabib's hanging out with.
You ever seen what Khabib has?
bryan callen
Yeah, he's got some money.
brendan schaub
Have you ever looked at the land he owns in Russia?
Well, when you're friends with Putin, They take care of their athletes, especially when they're fighting?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Bro.
bryan callen
Also the Arabs, also the Saudis and stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
Khabib is wherever he goes and should be.
joe rogan
Well, Hamzad is friends with that Kardyav guy, the guy who's the leader of Chechnya.
bryan callen
Yeah, he won a Nobel Peace Prize.
brendan schaub
He'll kill you.
joe rogan
Did he really?
bryan callen
No, he did not.
joe rogan
I was like, what the fuck are you talking about?
bryan callen
Did I get that letter?
He's a warlord.
joe rogan
There was a guy who used to fight for the UFC who left the UFC and went to work for him.
And like his second guy.
brendan schaub
Who's that?
joe rogan
Some dude.
And then he wound up getting killed.
bryan callen
Kadyrov.
joe rogan
I forget the guy's name.
He fell out.
bryan callen
Kadyrov's father was blown to smithereens.
And I believe he witnessed his father.
brendan schaub
Do you think they're arguing about pronouns out there?
bryan callen
No.
In fact, Hollywood basically boycotted Chechnya because Amnesty International said that the Chechen government was killing and torturing gay people.
joe rogan
They definitely are.
brendan schaub
The Chechens went, oh no!
bryan callen
Yeah, he was actually...
brendan schaub
We're not getting in the new Buzz Lightyear.
bryan callen
No, Kardioff had a ceremony because he was sanctioned more than any other leader by all the Western European countries in America, and he was given an award for being basically the biggest asshole.
He threw himself the award.
He was awarded the guy...
brendan schaub
With Homsad, it's tough with the UFC because, A, we don't even know if he can fight in the States, right?
He can't fight here, and then...
bryan callen
Yeah, I don't know what that's about.
brendan schaub
He has the longest COVID ever, right?
He keeps getting hurt.
joe rogan
Well, the problem with him is when he got COVID, he would not stop training.
And so he had full-blown COVID, and he was just beating his body into the ground every day.
brendan schaub
It's a shame, man.
joe rogan
Multiple times in the hospital.
brendan schaub
I know, it's a shame.
He's the fucking boogeyman that might never come.
joe rogan
But when he fights, it's fucking pretty goddamn exciting.
Although, I did think Camaro beat him in the third round.
I was like, if that was a five-round fight, that's a difficult fight for him.
bryan callen
Yep.
joe rogan
Because, you know, you're dealing with a real champion, knows how to pace himself, guy who's been there, struggled before, knows what it feels like.
brendan schaub
Also, he really doesn't have a significant win at 85. No.
He's never beat 85?
joe rogan
Not a real good one.
Joe Milchardt, you know, he's beaten a couple of guys.
brendan schaub
Not that tip of the spear, though.
joe rogan
Excuse me, the Usman thing was, no, not the tip.
brendan schaub
And then you're going to go to Robert Whittaker?
joe rogan
Right.
brian simpson
It's a big leap.
Did he come in having two fights in two weeks?
joe rogan
In the early days of his career he did that, yes.
brian simpson
I think that forever has him in Dana's good graces.
joe rogan
Yeah, well he's also incredibly excited.
bryan callen
Dude, Tricoli's taking a beating right now.
joe rogan
Well, Shara Bullitt does wild shit like hook kicks off that front leg.
brendan schaub
That's why you like him.
bryan callen
He's got a crazy gas tank.
Look at him.
He keeps hammering that front leg.
joe rogan
He does hook kicks from an open stance, which is weird.
Not even bladed.
He stands like an open stance, like an MMA stance.
Look at that.
The way he throws that front leg.
His left leg is so interesting.
brendan schaub
Also, nothing's better when you see a dagger standing, you assume wrestling, and then they're all striking.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like Zabit.
brendan schaub
Yeah, isn't it weird?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
When you see him, you're like, what the fuck?
joe rogan
God, I miss Zabit.
brendan schaub
The man.
joe rogan
God, he was good.
bryan callen
By the way, What's-His-Name is about to fight Whitaker.
He's got a hell of a jab, and he's a very good striker.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Al Skaroff's good, man.
He's very good.
brendan schaub
He's very good.
It's a tough fight for Robert Whitaker.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
I actually think he's going to win.
joe rogan
Alex Garof?
bryan callen
I do.
joe rogan
Interesting.
bryan callen
I'll tell you, well...
brendan schaub
What?
joe rogan
It's a good fight, I'll tell you that.
I think it's a very good fight.
The only loss that he has is Hamzat, and Hamzat caught him with a perfect uppercut.
brendan schaub
And Hamzat said it was his toughest fight ever.
bryan callen
Yeah, now, yeah, and...
joe rogan
Oh, Tricoli's in trouble.
bryan callen
He never took him down.
joe rogan
Tricoli's hurt.
Tricoli's hurt.
bryan callen
Yeah, I knew this was gonna happen.
He's just too tired, man.
He's giving up.
brendan schaub
I love the body shot.
joe rogan
Oh, he dropped, and that's it.
bryan callen
Shara Bullitt.
unidentified
Wow!
joe rogan
Shara Bullitt!
Let's go.
bryan callen
Damn, that was good.
brian simpson
Well, he just kept getting caught with shit.
bryan callen
With one eye, bro.
joe rogan
One eye, assassin.
Good for him.
And he showed way better takedown defense in this fight.
So obviously he's been training on that.
Way better.
But obviously Tricoli's, again, not an elite wrestler, but fucking good fight.
brendan schaub
There's not enough hours in the day to get him to elite level wrestling.
joe rogan
Bro, they're so close to creating new eyeballs.
Give this guy two eyes, he's gonna fuck everybody up.
Michael Bisping's gonna be reading signs at a distance.
bryan callen
I hope so, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're close, man.
bryan callen
Are they really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they're close to developing artificial eyes.
There's so much going on with medical science.
bryan callen
Yeah, there is.
brendan schaub
But they can't fix hair.
brian simpson
You know what?
He might not want to fix hair.
brendan schaub
Ain't that a bitch?
joe rogan
They can kind of grow your hair back now.
unidentified
How?
joe rogan
If you get on it early.
brendan schaub
Look at Cowboy.
Cowboy has a full set of hair.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he got hair transplanted.
bryan callen
Fuck that.
I want to grow hair.
When are they going to do that for me?
joe rogan
Dude, even if I had hair, I'd shave my head.
I really would.
brendan schaub
No, you can't.
No, you can't.
I have a good head.
joe rogan
I have a good head for being bald.
I wish I shaved my head earlier.
I really do.
brian simpson
I'm surprised they don't have dick transplants.
joe rogan
They do.
brian simpson
Word?
brendan schaub
They use your thumb.
joe rogan
Yeah, people have had their dick blown off like soldiers and shit.
brendan schaub
They use your thumb?
joe rogan
No, they give them a new dick.
They give them a donor dick.
But they can't give you donor balls.
You know why?
Because the balls will always forever contain the sperm of the person who died.
So, like, if you died and you gave your dick to Brian, Brian would have your kids.
Brian would be able to shoot your...
brendan schaub
That's better than nothing.
joe rogan
But it's crazy because you could shoot someone else's loads into a person and make your kids.
And you're not even alive anymore.
brendan schaub
That'd be pretty lit, though.
joe rogan
Pretty lit.
brendan schaub
If you get the right genetics.
joe rogan
If you, like, sign off on it.
Yeah, yeah.
If you say, I agree to let Brian have my kids.
He's a good dude.
brendan schaub
Brian's like, I'm down.
How tall is he?
unidentified
He's probably got a big hog.
brian simpson
Let's go.
Donate my dick to science.
Your DNA won't even be mixed with it a little bit?
unidentified
Nope.
joe rogan
Nope.
100%.
It would be the person who owns the testicles, their dick.
brian simpson
They could fix that with stem cells.
joe rogan
No.
No, no, no.
You can't fix that.
I mean, it's literally the DNA is embedded into the testicles.
So your DNA would be...
It's not like for the first couple of loads.
It's forever.
unidentified
Forever.
bryan callen
How far away do you think we are from all that 20 years?
joe rogan
Well, they've given people dick transplants.
bryan callen
Right.
joe rogan
That's already happening.
bryan callen
I'm saying like eyeballs and being able to grow tissue.
joe rogan
Yeah, about 20 years.
But they're also going to be able to...
I think in 50 years, you know all this transgender shit?
They're going to be able to change your sex.
bryan callen
Yes.
joe rogan
For real, for real.
bryan callen
Yes.
joe rogan
They're going to give you double X chromosome.
brian simpson
You're going to go to XY. As soon as you can go back and forth, we're in trouble.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Right.
But, you know, we're the X-Y's.
We're the last of the Mohicans.
You know, one of the things that they found is that Neanderthal DNA in humans, none of it is the Y chromosome.
They can't find Neanderthal DNA in Y chromosome.
They find it in X chromosome.
So it's all women being fucked by Neanderthals.
bryan callen
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So it's all human women being fucked by Neanderthal men.
bryan callen
That makes sense.
brian simpson
Or Neanderthal women being fucked by human men.
bryan callen
No, it's just a caveman.
joe rogan
No, it's the why.
We're XY, women are XX. They can't find the why.
There's at least an article I read.
I don't know if it's accurate.
Facts.
Wild facts.
But it makes sense.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you know there's a theory that Neanderthals...
You know, we want to think that Neanderthals look like us.
They're just different, kind of like fucked up heads and big bones.
They were real thick.
They were just like way heavier and denser.
But there's this crazy theory that they looked like gorillas.
And that we don't know what they looked like on the outside.
And that they had big eyes that they could see at night like cats.
brendan schaub
Goddamn.
joe rogan
Because they had eyes that were much larger than our eyes.
brian simpson
And we were just smarter than them?
joe rogan
Yeah, but also there's theories that they hunted us.
There's some pretty cool documentaries on it.
brendan schaub
Wouldn't they be more thinner?
joe rogan
No, they were bigger.
They were short, but really heavy.
They were like 5'7", 210 pounds, and freakishly strong like a chimp.
brendan schaub
So they were built like you.
joe rogan
Yeah, but freakishly strong like a chimp.
You know, not like a human.
Like me, I'm strong for a human.
They're strong like a chimp because massive bones, massive tendons, everything's dense, much bigger, thicker, heavier bone structure, everything different.
bryan callen
Is that what makes chimps so strong?
Their tendon strength?
joe rogan
Everything makes them strong.
First of all, how much plyometrics do those guys do?
brian simpson
Goddamn.
joe rogan
They're just throwing their body through the trees every day.
Throwing themselves around.
bryan callen
Just neck and head.
brian simpson
I don't know how accurate it is.
I also heard they don't have any medium Twitch.
Twitch muscle fibers.
bryan callen
It's all fast.
brian simpson
It's all fast or slow.
bryan callen
And they go from zero to a hundred when it comes to anger.
brian simpson
Like gentle, like rubbing a baby, or just rip your fucking arm up.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
That's all you need in the wild.
In the wild, you ain't running any marathons.
You're not out there jogging.
Nice slow jog, working on your fucking zone two.
bryan callen
Cameron Haynes.
There's no zone two in the wild.
joe rogan
Shower bullet.
One tooth two.
One eye, one tooth.
brendan schaub
He was on the prelims, too.
They bumped him up.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, they lost a lot of good fights.
Which is just how it goes with this fucking sport, man.
brendan schaub
It's been really rough this past month, though.
joe rogan
You're like, God damn.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
Especially this card.
Jamal Hill vs.
Carlos Olberg.
I was really looking for Jamal vs.
Khalil.
Khalil is fucking scary.
And for Jamal, I kind of like that...
I hate that Jamal hurt his knee, but I kind of like that he's not jumping right back in after getting KO'd.
Because I know everybody wants to do that, because I've got to get it back.
But the reality is, he got fucking flatlined by one of the scariest punchers on earth.
brendan schaub
They're doing him a favor.
I'm not saying he couldn't win the fight.
I think for the longevity of his career, it's better that he got hurt.
joe rogan
Olberg's fucking scary, too.
And so is Khalil.
Khalil fights like you just killed his dog.
He really does.
Khalil's terrifying.
And his fucking technique is so sharp.
bryan callen
Here we go.
joe rogan
Oh, Kelvin's next.
bryan callen
Kelvin.
joe rogan
Versus D-Rod.
brendan schaub
Misses all that weight.
You know he has a show called Missing Weight where he eats food?
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
And then he missed weight.
brendan schaub
He was eating tacos and he goes, definitely ain't making weight.
And that came out like a week ago.
joe rogan
He is a wild, rough dude.
brendan schaub
He's so talented.
joe rogan
Bro, I had a conversation with him maybe eight years ago at the store.
Eight years ago.
brendan schaub
He was always at the store.
joe rogan
Always at the store.
We were hanging out and I said, Kelvin, if you just got disciplined and dropped down to 170, you're a world champion.
And he's like, I know.
I know.
Meanwhile, here we are.
unidentified
Eight years later, he's fighting 185. He's like, I know, I know.
brendan schaub
Check out this new show.
bryan callen
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Check out this burrito I just ate.
bryan callen
That's so funny, man.
Yeah, because he's 5'8".
I mean, he's not taller than that.
brendan schaub
Think about it.
Even at 85, I went toe-to-toe.
One of my top five middleweight fights, him versus Izzy.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
How about when Izzy at the end of the round said, I'm prepared to die.
bryan callen
He said, I'm prepared to die.
brendan schaub
Gangster.
joe rogan
What was that, Jan?
He was like looking at Adam and said, I'm prepared to die.
bryan callen
Well, that's because, who was it?
Herb Dean goes, you okay?
He goes, is there a problem?
He goes, there's no problem here.
I'm ready to die.
brendan schaub
Is he different level?
bryan callen
Different level shit.
joe rogan
Is he?
brendan schaub
There it is.
Rating best tacos ever.
Missing weight with Kelvin Gaslam.
joe rogan
That is so funny.
It's so funny that it's called that.
brendan schaub
That was four weeks ago.
joe rogan
It's so funny that it's called that.
That is such a funny, funny name.
brian simpson
Does he own the place?
brendan schaub
Nope.
joe rogan
No, he just does a...
brendan schaub
He just loves tacos.
joe rogan
Like a lot of these guys, they have to do something as they're phasing out of their career.
And some of them do a podcast.
They do different things.
But Kelvin's just known for being...
I mean, he's just an incredible fighter, but not that weight.
That's not his weight.
But meanwhile, he goes down to 170. Who does he fight?
Sean Brady, who's a fucking gorilla.
Sean Brady was here on the podcast.
brendan schaub
He's the man.
joe rogan
He was walking in front of me.
And we're walking into the studio.
His back is like, it's like a triple back.
It's got triple back muscles.
brendan schaub
He's fighting Gilbert Burns.
bryan callen
Ooh, I like that.
joe rogan
When is that?
He's such a beast.
brendan schaub
They announced, I think September.
joe rogan
Bro, I've talked to people that train with him, said his fucking top pressure is awful.
brendan schaub
Sean Brady?
Savage.
bryan callen
Wait, what's he walking around?
200 probably?
joe rogan
Easily 200. I'm 200. He's way bigger than me.
Like I'm looking at his back.
His back was fucking massive, man.
He's so thick.
So fucking strong and elite technique, man.
His jiu-jitsu technique is so good.
bryan callen
But he's a wrestler first, right?
joe rogan
He started out wrestling, a black belt in jiu-jitsu, but really good striking too.
But he's got that one loss, but you know, it's to blah.
Blah's He's elite, too.
brendan schaub
Bilal's fucking good.
No one gives him credit.
Now, when Bilal being like, oh, Brady's just not very good, and then you find out Brady's pretty fucking good, and that's how good Bilal is.
joe rogan
Yeah, Bilal's really fucking good.
That was also Bilal training with Khabib and Islam and those guys in Dagestan, which I think brought him to a totally new level.
bryan callen
Bilal tell me that just standing up against Khabib is pretty much impossible for him.
Good story, dude.
brendan schaub
Hey, give me the lighter.
joe rogan
T-Roll!
brendan schaub
D-Rod.
He's a fun man.
D-Rod was so pissed.
He was so pissed.
Because Kelvin was so heavy, he couldn't even do a catchweight, bro.
joe rogan
Headline fight night September 7th.
Let's go.
bryan callen
Look at Kelvin.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
D-Rod was pissed because he was like, bro, who doesn't make weight?
And he goes, we were down to do a catchweight.
He's too heavy.
He can't even do a catchweight.
bryan callen
Wait, wait, wait.
joe rogan
They were supposed to do a catchweight?
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
What was it supposed to be?
brendan schaub
I think they tried, so they were going to do 175, and they're like, can't do it.
180?
Can't do it.
joe rogan
Goddamn.
bryan callen
So Kellen did make weight, though.
brendan schaub
He made 185. He made 185. Well, 185 is what they agreed to.
joe rogan
But D-Rod...
brendan schaub
D-Rod made weight?
joe rogan
D-Rod also trains with Joe Schilling.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
LA's finest.
bryan callen
But D-Rod started as a boxer, I think, yeah?
unidentified
D-Rod's fun.
joe rogan
He's fun.
This will be a good fight, as long as it doesn't go to the ground.
brendan schaub
This will be an entertaining fight, yeah.
bryan callen
I think it's going to be a slugfest.
joe rogan
It should be, most likely.
Calvin is fucking dangerous on the feet, man.
His combinations are so fluid.
He's so sharp and fluid off the feet.
It's just like, if Calvin had the kind of discipline that, like, Kamaru Usman has...
World champion.
You remember when he fought Uriah Hall?
Fuck yeah.
I mean, everybody was like, Uriah Hall's the next Anderson Silva.
And Calvin's like...
brendan schaub
He'd be in the Ultimate Fighter finale.
joe rogan
Yep.
brendan schaub
It's a cool story.
Check this out.
bryan callen
He's a beast, man.
unidentified
Look at it.
joe rogan
I mean, come on, man.
bryan callen
He's a beast.
Where'd he wrestle at?
joe rogan
How about when he knocked out Bisping?
In China?
brendan schaub
I hated that for Bisping.
That drove me nuts.
joe rogan
Oh, Tim Kennedy?
There's the Bisping one.
I mean, bro.
bryan callen
Oh my god, he's a beast.
He is a beast.
joe rogan
He's a fucking animal, man.
brendan schaub
All those clips are from a long time ago.
bryan callen
That's the problem.
joe rogan
He had the window.
brendan schaub
I don't mean to be a hater, but...
joe rogan
The window was there.
The window was there.
bryan callen
I think he trades out of Cejudo's camp, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're boys.
joe rogan
They're both drinking and eating together.
unidentified
That was from 15 years ago.
joe rogan
But that's real, man.
brendan schaub
I mean, I wish that guy would show up.
brian simpson
That left hand was something serious.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah, you can crack, man.
joe rogan
It's so hard to maintain the fucking grind, and that's what's up.
brian simpson
Especially if you don't love it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think after a while they don't love it anymore because it just breaks their body.
brendan schaub
And also the worst part of fighting is cutting weight.
Those last five pounds is the worst of the worst.
And you're getting older and he enjoys food and you're out for a while.
bryan callen
Or just injuries too, right?
brian simpson
To get weight cutting out of the spine.
joe rogan
That was me.
That was only me.
Nobody listened.
I fucking brought it up to them the moment they bought the UFC. I pulled Ari aside and I said, hey, this is what you should do.
You really want to do this?
Blow up the weight classes.
Cut out all the weight cutting.
Make a big deal about it.
It's the most dangerous thing in the sport.
Outside of getting kicked in the head, it's the most dangerous thing in the sport.
And it's unnecessary.
Getting kicked in the head is a part of the sport.
There's no way you're going to get around it.
But the most dangerous thing outside of that is weight cutting.
And we can eliminate that.
brian simpson
Is it too late, though?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Oh, it's never happened.
joe rogan
They don't listen to me, man.
bryan callen
How would you do it, though?
joe rogan
No one listens to me.
brendan schaub
No, but you can't.
joe rogan
No one listens to me.
brendan schaub
You need weight classes, and then also, Joe also wants there to be no cage and have it on an open field.
joe rogan
Brian feels the same way.
brian simpson
Talk about that fucking stupid.
When we went to karate combat, man, I don't know about the fighting itself, but when we went to karate combat, it was just more entertaining to not have the cage in the way.
bryan callen
No, you gotta have the cage.
It started as cage fighting.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
You don't have to have it.
What you need is a basketball court.
Well, we went to see Gordon Ryan compete Thursday night, right?
You see everything.
We saw him on the mat.
brendan schaub
But there's still a mat, but it's not a basketball court-sized mat, right?
joe rogan
But it's a big-ass mat.
brendan schaub
But still controlled.
joe rogan
Right, but it's a big-ass mat.
brendan schaub
But they also got to stay in bounds, though, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, they got to stay in bounds if they move him back into bounds, which is what it should be.
brian simpson
Yeah, well, the karate combat shit had, like, blood sport walls.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
With a ramp?
brian simpson
Yeah, little ramps.
bryan callen
You can't have ramps, though, because then people would use the ramps.
joe rogan
It's too easy to get taken down.
It's too easy to get taken down when you get pushed to the ramp.
brian simpson
But people use the cage.
joe rogan
But the cage stops you from getting taken down.
The ramp, you fall.
brian simpson
Right, right.
joe rogan
If someone's pushing you and you're near stairs, you're going to fall down.
brian simpson
But you know what it cut out?
It cut out all the running away.
joe rogan
Yep.
brian simpson
It forced the action.
joe rogan
Yep.
It does.
It does.
bryan callen
That's the idea behind the ramp.
joe rogan
I think a flat surface is the move, the large flat surface, and then have danger zones where you can get a point deducted if you enter into the danger zone too many times.
If there's like a warning track on the outside, make the warning track big enough so the guy can adjust and get back in.
bryan callen
That makes sense.
joe rogan
But too many times in the warning track should be deducted from your total score, and you could have a large enough surface.
And everyone would be able to see everything.
We'd be able to see everything.
bryan callen
How would you get them to not cut so much water?
brian simpson
We can elevate that motherfucker.
joe rogan
No, but then people fall off and they die.
brian simpson
But you lose if you fall off.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
Like sumo, then.
Yeah, sumo.
brendan schaub
Or like kumite.
brian simpson
Some other way to lose?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
brendan schaub
Here's the thing.
For Dana, it's a business, right?
So we've got to sell this thing.
It's tough to fucking sell.
Like, PFL has the playoff system.
I was watching last night.
I'm like, the fuck?
joe rogan
Look, if Dana loses $7 million one night and strokes out, and they come to me, that's what I do.
I tell them, this is what you're going to do.
brendan schaub
Strokes out over $7 million?
joe rogan
He just goes crazy.
Fuck it.
brendan schaub
Joe, what should we do?
Just ruin the business?
joe rogan
Hanging out with him, gambling, will give you the craziest fucking anxiety.
Really?
brendan schaub
He's a wild boy.
joe rogan
I walked in and he was $600,000 down.
brian simpson
Did you see him on Shannon's Shop?
No, I didn't.
brendan schaub
He was great on there.
brian simpson
He was great on there and he talked about it openly.
He was like, his dream is to bet a million dollars a hand.
He wants to bet a million dollar hand.
And him and Shannon Sharp started reminiscing about this old blackjack place, and he said his strategy is his first bet is always the highest.
So he goes in on the first bet with the highest.
unidentified
That's a high.
brendan schaub
But he also explained, I didn't hear him, I don't know if he talked about this on Sharp's podcast, but on Schultz's podcast, he was talking about, because Schultz brought it up, he goes, and you're banned from those casinos?
No, no.
It's fucking stupid.
I'm not banned.
What happens is I win so much and I take money from them.
So what they do is the reserve, whatever it used to be, 10 million, they drop it to like 5,000.
So I'm just not going to play there.
He's like, nobody gets banned.
He goes, you only get banned if you're cheating.
So anyone that, those rumors that I'm banned, he's like, I'm not banned.
They just don't want me to play there.
joe rogan
They did something with him back in the day at the Palm.
brendan schaub
He talked about it.
Yeah, he said he took them for so much money, they went, cool.
And he went back shortly after he won millions of dollars.
He came back, and they're like, yeah, your reserve's five grand now.
He's like, the fuck?
No, I play like a million.
They're like, not anymore.
Because they don't want him there.
bryan callen
They pulled the rug from under you.
brendan schaub
Yeah, they're like, no, you can play.
joe rogan
Red Rocks is like, come on down.
That's where we went.
We went to Red Rocks.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
It was nuts, man.
Your hands get sweaty just watching them.
And then him and Taylor, Taylor Luan, was gambling with him, and he tells Taylor how to bet.
In five minutes they were down $120,000.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
And I'm just sitting there, I'm scratching, I'm sweating.
I can't take that shit.
I don't like, I don't like, like, that kind of gambling doesn't make sense to me.
bryan callen
I'm like, yeah!
brian simpson
You know, the experience is fun.
When you have a good dealer, and it's just you and them, maybe you and a couple friends, the dealer's telling you how to bet, so you don't gotta be an expert.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's like 20 bucks a hand.
brendan schaub
We're talking millions though?
joe rogan
I don't care how rich I am.
I can't do that.
brendan schaub
I'm with you.
I couldn't do that either.
I think I could do it once as an experience, but when they're going like a few times a week?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't get it.
brendan schaub
Or he's on vacation and hires somebody to do it on the boat?
joe rogan
I'll tell you what I like.
I like gambling on skill games.
Like, gambling on pool.
If you're gambling on pool for a lot of money, I want to watch that.
That's exciting to me.
Gambling on cards.
Like, who knows what the card's gonna be?
Get the fuck out of here with that shit.
brendan schaub
It's not for me.
joe rogan
I don't...
brian simpson
Like, you don't like games of chance?
joe rogan
No.
I don't like them at all.
I don't like them at all.
I mean, I know there's skill to it.
I understand there's ways that you can make it lean more towards your advantage.
bryan callen
Here we go.
joe rogan
I like games where you're in control of your own destiny.
Here we go.
bryan callen
Look at Kelvin.
joe rogan
Wow, D-Rod's coming out hot.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He should, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, especially he probably thinks that Kelvin's probably out of shape.
I mean, Calvin had a tough camp.
His midsection's thick.
He's always thick, though.
And with skinny-ass legs.
brendan schaub
Yep.
joe rogan
You know, he doesn't have big legs, but damn, that dude gets some power.
brendan schaub
And his gas tank's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Look at his butt.
brian simpson
He got that corny body.
joe rogan
He got zero butt.
bryan callen
Yeah, he's a guy who you wouldn't think can kick ass to that level.
joe rogan
Oh, he's such a stud.
He's so good.
bryan callen
If you had fought him on the beach, you'd be like, alright, well this guy looks like he's out of shit.
brendan schaub
I'm going to whoop Spongebob's ass.
He's built like Spongebob.
brian simpson
Didn't somebody find out having that little gut gives you more power?
brendan schaub
Absolutely not.
You don't want that.
bryan callen
Hips, hips.
joe rogan
Look at his back, man.
He's not small.
His back is dense as fuck.
brendan schaub
And he has one of the greatest chins.
bryan callen
He's also got speed, actually.
He's surprisingly fast, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got fluid combinations, man.
brendan schaub
And he has the head like a rot.
joe rogan
And his head movement is good.
brendan schaub
He does everything high level, of course.
It's just a discipline thing.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just a discipline thing.
I think he could have been an absolute world champion at 170. It's almost too late now.
What is he, like 35 now?
brendan schaub
How old is he?
35's tough.
joe rogan
How old is Kelvin, Jamie?
bryan callen
He'll put 32, I think.
joe rogan
33?
32. 32!
That's crazy!
Bro, that's crazy.
As long as he's been around, Uriah Hall's out of the game.
Uriah Hall's already done retired.
brendan schaub
How many fights does he have, though, Jamie?
bryan callen
He could fight.
He could fight.
He could suck down at 70 and fight three more years if he really gets serious.
joe rogan
He's not going to suck down at 70. Also, those guys down at 70, they're enormous now.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
You missed that boat.
bryan callen
I know.
brendan schaub
Monsters.
28 fights.
He's 32, it's tough.
At 170, it's very tough.
joe rogan
Well, also, those 170 guys are gigantic.
Imagine him and Michael Venom Page.
Michael Vena Page is so big.
How about Michel Pereira?
Before he dropped down, they made him fight up to 185. He was so big.
brian simpson
There are people that fight up there walking around.
Aren't there people that don't cut?
joe rogan
There's a few, but it's very rare.
Frankie Edgar is like the last of the Mohicans when he was fighting at 55. He actually weighed 155 pounds.
But damn, he was so durable.
Because he didn't cut the weight, he could bounce back.
He wasn't depleted.
These guys all deplete the fuck out of themselves.
brendan schaub
Now it's like a science.
unidentified
It should be.
bryan callen
Frankie fought at 55?
unidentified
Yes.
bryan callen
I thought he fought at 45. No, he started at 55. That's amazing, because the 55 was a huge turn.
brendan schaub
He beat BJ in his prime at 55. His fights against Ben Hendo?
I mean, Grey Maynard?
joe rogan
Grey Maynard fights were crazy.
Whenever you see a fight that gets stopped too quickly, watch the fucking Frankie Edgar Grey Maynard fights, because Jesus Christ.
They could have stopped those fights a hundred times.
Damn, nice jab by Kelvin.
bryan callen
Nice jab.
joe rogan
Bro, people forget.
Kelvin is fucking good.
And if you're just going to stand with him, you're just going to stand with him, it's super dangerous.
brian simpson
His footwork's incredible.
bryan callen
He's beaten and almost beaten the best in the world.
joe rogan
It's his head movement, man.
His head movement's incredible.
And it's just, the punches are so fluid.
brendan schaub
He does everything well.
unidentified
He reaches like, look at that.
joe rogan
But D-Rod's solid too, man.
bryan callen
But he can stand at the edge of the pocket, man.
He knows exactly how far your reach is.
Look at that.
brendan schaub
I'm surprised Kelvin's not going for a takedown.
Could be a cardio issue.
bryan callen
Look at the way he's standing.
He knows exactly.
joe rogan
He hardly ever does, though.
You know, Calvin...
brendan schaub
A guy like D-Rod you'd probably want to shoot in on, but...
unidentified
Look at this.
brendan schaub
He's having success on the feet, though.
joe rogan
Oh, good combination.
bryan callen
Catching him left and right, dude.
joe rogan
Oh, Calvin's teeing off.
bryan callen
Calvin's going to win this fight, man, if he's...
joe rogan
How can you say this?
It's 1-22 in the first round.
bryan callen
Because I'm watching D-Rod get caught.
joe rogan
You got ahead of your wheels.
D-Rod's so tan?
Yeah.
bryan callen
I'm over my skis.
Sorry, guys.
I'm an aristocrat.
I use rich man sport analogies.
joe rogan
I think that's the right analogy anyway.
I think over your wheels doesn't even exist.
I think I made it up right there.
brendan schaub
It could be over your wheels though, huh?
joe rogan
I guess.
I mean, you're on a unicycle.
Uh-oh.
Oh, D-Rod.
bryan callen
Look at this.
Nodding.
Calvin's got a head like a fucking butt.
brian simpson
Yo, how are you taking a left hand like that?
brendan schaub
D-Rod.
Ooh, good shot by D-Rod.
bryan callen
It's a slugfest.
It's exactly what I expected this to be.
joe rogan
Yeah, and that's what Calvin loves.
He loves these kind of exchanges.
He forces guys into these extended combination slugfests.
bryan callen
Oh, body shot!
joe rogan
Damn!
Nice feint up top and then left to the body.
brendan schaub
So I assume if Kelvin wins this fight, he's just going to stay at 85?
You know?
bryan callen
Why not?
Why not?
joe rogan
You've got a cooking show.
unidentified
You've got a food show.
joe rogan
You're never going to beat those Drekus Duplassi guys.
Those massive 85ers.
There's guys at 85ers.
brendan schaub
70s even deeper.
joe rogan
Right?
bryan callen
It's true.
Look at his head.
Look at his head moving.
Slipping.
brendan schaub
Oh, he has one of the best chins ever as well.
bryan callen
But he can also slip really well.
He sees those shots coming.
He stands right in the pocket.
unidentified
Look at this.
joe rogan
He probably should do some boxing.
bryan callen
Agreed.
Agreed.
I'd like to see him fight Jake Paul.
How about that?
That'd be an interesting fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, it'd be hard to sell.
brendan schaub
Get some money.
Yeah, it'd be hard to sell because he's not a big enough name.
joe rogan
Yo, how many people are counting out Mike Perry?
Isn't that interesting?
bryan callen
I'm not counting.
brendan schaub
Bro, it's wild to me.
And then in all the comments, like, oh, dude, you must think it's bare knuckle.
This is boxing.
I'm like...
Oh, you don't know what a fucking dog Mike Perry is.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a pit bull.
brendan schaub
You need to do your goddamn research.
There's no quit.
joe rogan
He's a game-bred pit bull.
brendan schaub
He's even getting in your fucking face for all eight of those rounds.
And he's always like, oh, this is a gimmick fight.
I'm like, you're a moron.
But you're in the Mike Tyson fight?
Get the fuck out of here.
joe rogan
Yeah, Mike Perry's dangerous.
That's a super, super dangerous fight.
brian simpson
When is the Mike Tyson fight?
joe rogan
It's supposed to be in November.
Supposed to be.
But that is...
Who knows if it's ever going to happen.
I mean, Mike has ulcers.
He's a 58-year-old man with ulcers.
brendan schaub
The most old man thing ever to get out of the fight.
joe rogan
That's like a CEO problem.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
He got on a plane.
joe rogan
Yeah, Mike Perry's fighting in July.
It's July 20th.
The Mike Tyson fight is in November.
In Tampa, Florida, which is like Mike...
That's Mike Perry's like...
That's his source.
That's like the land that gave birth to him.
brendan schaub
He's Tom Cruise down there, bro.
He's the man.
joe rogan
And he's become very famous because of Bare Knuckle.
bryan callen
Look at Kelvin.
brendan schaub
He's the face of Bare Knuckle.
bryan callen
He's not tired at all.
He's fine.
brendan schaub
Dude, a guy...
Because remember, in the UFC, he wasn't a huge name.
He was fun to watch.
We didn't have a great record.
And we're like, alright, he's fun, but he's never going to be a world champ.
Leaves, say, I'm going to do Bare Knuckle.
And then just starts being the shit out of all these fucking Hall of Famers.
joe rogan
Crazy.
brendan schaub
It's such a fun story, dude.
joe rogan
Bro, you got so many pouches in your mouth, you sound like a squirrel.
He's like, He's talking to a squirrel over there.
brendan schaub
Are you going to say something?
Because as I was talking to you, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And you wait for him to go, bro.
joe rogan
Old squirrel shop over there.
bryan callen
Old squirrel shop.
joe rogan
Whoa!
D-Rod just left a nice left hand.
bryan callen
This is a very good fight.
brendan schaub
Hey man, give me some of those smelling salts.
joe rogan
Oh, let's go.
bryan callen
Take it easy.
joe rogan
Now you talk!
brendan schaub
I can see you, man.
joe rogan
Time to come back.
Let's go!
Get in there, Sean!
unidentified
Get your hips!
bryan callen
Get your hips into it!
brendan schaub
Yeah!
unidentified
Let's go Brian Come on you're good Man, that one's tough.
bryan callen
Devil horns, devil horns.
unidentified
Swim it.
brendan schaub
Just get your power, bro.
unidentified
What?
Can I go back in?
Fuck yeah, you can.
brendan schaub
We have one more bro.
That shit wear off?
unidentified
Push it back.
Back.
bryan callen
Oh, dude, no hands?
Fucking no hands.
joe rogan
Y'all got no hands.
brendan schaub
I'm sweating.
bryan callen
You want one?
joe rogan
We're missing.
unidentified
We're missing.
brian simpson
Steal away the demons.
bryan callen
Joe, I had no idea you could dance so well.
joe rogan
Yeah, once I get the chair under me and I feel like my legs fit in this little thing.
brendan schaub
You got those jeans?
brian simpson
I'm about to take a salsa class.
I want to learn how to do the...
joe rogan
Really?
brian simpson
Yeah.
bryan callen
I take salsa every Sunday.
joe rogan
You want to take one class and then you'll blow off the next one.
brian simpson
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, you'll call in like...
brendan schaub
You sure as fuck can't do in those Uggs.
bryan callen
Me and my wife come to the house and teach us.
joe rogan
Usually he has Crocs on.
brendan schaub
Oh no, Crocs, my bad.
brian simpson
You can't do it?
You can't do it with Crocs?
joe rogan
Brian Simpson has two separate Crocs that he wears to the mothership.
One Crocs, which are walking around Crocs.
And then he changes them in the green room and puts on his stage Crocs.
unidentified
What?
brendan schaub
Dude, so...
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Respect.
brendan schaub
That's amazing.
Respect.
I hate Crocs, but respect for that.
But my kids had Crocs.
Kids love Crocs.
Dude, I... Middle of the night.
Took them, threw them in the trash.
joe rogan
They fall off.
bryan callen
They're so comfortable.
joe rogan
I don't understand what everybody's saying.
brendan schaub
Those are what?
brian simpson
Salahicrocs.
brendan schaub
What's that?
brian simpson
It's a collaboration between Crocs and the Vice President of Versace.
So this is his special...
brendan schaub
Oh, it's like a finger?
It looks like a fingerprint?
bryan callen
Dude, he's missing Gaston.
Gaston's a ghost right now.
Look at that.
unidentified
Oh, D-Rod.
joe rogan
D-Rod came back there.
bryan callen
Yeah, he's missing.
He's catching glove, catching air.
joe rogan
He caught him with the left hook and the right hand right there.
brian simpson
I think D-Rod just looks a little stiff.
bryan callen
D-Rod's tired.
brendan schaub
He's older, too.
joe rogan
D-Rod's tired.
brendan schaub
It's a great fight.
bryan callen
It's a slugfest, man.
brendan schaub
Brian, you just wear those Crocs for comfort?
You're more about comfort?
brian simpson
Mostly, yeah.
But I kind of fucked up pinky toe.
So, like, sometimes my feet...
joe rogan
You and Conor McGregor?
bryan callen
Yep.
brian simpson
The show just hurt my feet.
joe rogan
It's one thing you guys have in common.
bryan callen
He's on that Conor training regimen.
brendan schaub
You have wide feet?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Super wide feet, yeah.
bryan callen
You're asking him random questions.
brendan schaub
Well, because he wears so many...
He wears so many Crocs, you know, I don't know...
joe rogan
Oh!
Nice cupcake and a right hook.
brian simpson
I got, like, all the colors.
joe rogan
Oh, nice jab.
When Calvin gets jumping around on them feet.
Oh, this is a wild fight, man.
bryan callen
Calvin moves his head, man.
He's just so good.
joe rogan
This fight will get you very confused as to what kind of punches you can actually take in the face.
bryan callen
Calvin looks as good as he's ever looked.
I'm sorry.
joe rogan
No.
bryan callen
Come on.
joe rogan
That's not true.
brendan schaub
Do you see the Izzy fight?
Shut your fucking mouth.
joe rogan
It's so not true.
bryan callen
He looks great.
joe rogan
It's so not true.
brendan schaub
He looks great right now.
He looks good.
joe rogan
He put away world champions.
bryan callen
Hey, I get a little excited.
Oh, good left hand.
Yeah, that was a good left hand.
joe rogan
The Tim Kennedy fight?
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
God damn, I can breathe after those things.
brian simpson
Every time I think of Gaston, I just remember the interview where he had some kind of shit on his skin.
unidentified
You know what you want?
brendan schaub
Like staff?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
brian simpson
Kelvin did?
joe rogan
Oh, that was a good left hand by D-Rod.
brendan schaub
These Saudi Arabians are like, these fucking Mexicans can fly.
joe rogan
Oh, finally, takedown.
Finally.
With zero seconds to go.
bryan callen
That counts.
joe rogan
That's it.
brendan schaub
That's a good way to end the round.
joe rogan
And so, is this the co-main?
No.
No.
What's the co-main?
brendan schaub
Volkov and Sergei Pavlovich.
That's a tasty fight.
joe rogan
That's a good fight.
brendan schaub
And they were training partners in the weigh-in.
The UFC did this to me and Mitrion at the weigh-ins.
Volkov goes, why would you accept this fight?
He's like, I didn't.
They're like, they said you did.
He's like, I didn't.
And they start fighting.
That's what the UFC does.
I don't know.
Who knows if they do it now.
joe rogan
Not accept, but ask for it, right?
brendan schaub
Like when Joe Silva called me to fight Mitrione, they called me, and he called me direct and goes, Mitrione's asking to fight you, man.
I don't know.
I thought you guys were friends.
He wants to fight you.
I went, Matt does?
He goes, yeah.
You got a contract that's in Toronto if you want to fight.
I'm like, what the fuck?
I'm like, let me think about it.
I call Matt.
I'm like, dude, what the fuck?
You want to fight?
I thought we were friends.
He goes, I don't want to fight you.
I told them no.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
brian simpson
So what, you don't fight your friends?
brendan schaub
Yeah, you don't want to, but sometimes you have no fucking choice.
brian simpson
Hey, bro, we need this bread.
joe rogan
Exactly.
brian simpson
Throw me to fight.
brendan schaub
Like, me and Shane Carwin had an agreement where we would never fight each other unless it was for the title.
joe rogan
That's a good agreement.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Titles, different animal.
joe rogan
That changes your life.
Oh, this is the third round.
I thought that was the second round.
Oh, left hand by Kelvin.
brian simpson
It can ruin your friendship, though, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, but you got a family, man.
joe rogan
Especially if you do something to somebody.
You really fuck them up.
You know?
brendan schaub
But title shot, that has changed your life.
You win that?
You're talking about real money.
It's everything.
That's why you started the sport.
We're friends, but...
joe rogan
Yeah.
At the end of the day, it's a one-on-one sport.
bryan callen
That's right.
joe rogan
It's an individual competition.
brian simpson
That's the only way you get points, right?
brendan schaub
Pay-per-view points.
Well, not only do you got to win the title, you got to defend it, then you get points.
brian simpson
Oh, so you don't get points on the...
brendan schaub
No.
brian simpson
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Does anybody get pay-per-view points on the title possibility?
brendan schaub
Connor would.
brian simpson
Don't you get pay-per-view points if you're headlining now?
brendan schaub
No.
brian simpson
If you're a main event?
joe rogan
No.
bryan callen
Gaslam.
Gaslam's rugged as fuck, man.
brendan schaub
You have to be a defending champion.
bryan callen
It's just rugged.
brendan schaub
And depending what weight class, too.
Like, Mighty Mouse didn't get pay-per-view points for Intel's, like, fifth defense or some shit.
Because UFC's argument was, yeah, we're putting you on there.
You might be made event, but we stack the cards because you're not bringing in the viewership.
joe rogan
Mm.
unidentified
Mm.
joe rogan
What goes down in November?
Do they have November set up yet?
brendan schaub
Jon Jones-Stipe.
joe rogan
Is that 100%?
brendan schaub
Pretty hundo.
Jon Jones looked it and took it down.
brian simpson
I'm so against that.
brendan schaub
You're against what?
bryan callen
Why?
brian simpson
I don't want to see Stipe fight no more.
The last fight, I was like, he's done.
And if this is going to be Jon's last fight, I want it to be a challenge.
bryan callen
Brian Simpson makes a stand.
I don't want to see Stipe fight no more.
brendan schaub
You want to see him fight Tom Aspinall?
brian simpson
Yes.
Like, imagine him going out like that.
joe rogan
Really, what I want is the time machine, and I want to go back and keep Francis Ngannou there.
I love that Francis made a ton of money.
I love that he dropped Tyson Fury.
I do not love the Joshua fight.
That was sad.
Watching him getting KO'd like that against Anthony Joshua, I was like, ooh.
It's like, you're just fighting one of the best boxers that's ever competed at heavyweight, who's a knockout puncher, who really knows how to box, who's an Olympic gold medalist, and you've had one boxing fight.
bryan callen
Correct.
joe rogan
One.
brendan schaub
Bad idea.
bryan callen
It wouldn't get sanctioned usually.
brian simpson
One against a hell of a fighter.
joe rogan
One of the best.
But a guy who's been drinking and doing coke and barely paying attention.
brian simpson
And didn't take you serious.
joe rogan
Yeah, didn't take you serious and you dropped him, but then...
bryan callen
He also might have had an incentive to keep that fight going for a long time.
I'm not saying anything, but...
joe rogan
What?
bryan callen
Yeah, I said it.
joe rogan
Who?
bryan callen
My Tyson Fury.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
bryan callen
He may have had an incentive.
joe rogan
You're ridiculous.
bryan callen
No, I'm not.
joe rogan
You're so wrong.
bryan callen
No, I'm not.
joe rogan
You couldn't be...
Oh, yeah, Calvin got him down again.
bryan callen
You don't know what they're...
You have no idea.
joe rogan
There's not a chance in hell.
There's not a chance in hell that Tyson Fury carried him.
bryan callen
Huh.
joe rogan
He was terrified of his power.
He got dropped with a furious left hook in the left round.
He got rocked in the eighth round.
Bro, it's the same thing that you see in the Usyk fight.
He's not all there anymore.
Those fights with Deontay Wilder took something out of him.
100%.
Deontay Wilder, in those days, was the most terrifying knockout puncher in the history of the heavyweight division.
And he dropped him twice in that last fight and rocked him bad.
brendan schaub
And I feel like we don't appreciate Deontay...
Wilder as much as we should.
joe rogan
You know how it is, man.
Once a guy loses, you start thinking about him as the guy that just lost.
That's so wild to me.
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I don't.
joe rogan
I don't.
I don't either.
brian simpson
Especially for somebody that started boxing late in life.
bryan callen
He started when he was 23, Bill.
unidentified
And he's a bronze medal winner in the Olympics at 23. Do you not hear him talking?
bryan callen
Yeah, but I'm just saying.
I'm finishing my thought.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're finishing your thought while he's talking.
That's kind of crazy.
bryan callen
Yeah, but we were already having our conversation and then you moved on.
I'm saying that the idea that Tyson Fury didn't have a bag of tricks and he didn't carry him, for me, it's very strange to me.
It's very strange.
I don't know.
Maybe he didn't train at all.
joe rogan
He looked fat.
He looked out of shape.
You know he was partying.
Everybody said he was partying.
He's one of the greatest heavyweights of all time, for sure.
But he's also fighting a mountain of a man with insane physical abilities that caught him with a vicious left hook in the second round.
If he was carrying that dude, all that shit would be out the window after you get dropped and rocked like that.
brian simpson
Oh, god damn.
joe rogan
Here it is.
Boom!
brendan schaub
It's a weird thing, too, because you want Francis to go on and make all the money, but you selfishly wish he was still in the UFC to fight Jon Jones.
But even if you fought Jon Jones, he made 10 times more money fighting Tyson and Anthony Joshua?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Not even close.
joe rogan
He probably did.
He probably did.
unidentified
He did.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know.
Do you know what he made?
What did he make for the Tyson Fury fight?
brendan schaub
They announced it.
No, I think with the pay-per-views it was like almost 20. Wow.
joe rogan
And then Anthony Joshua probably another?
brendan schaub
A good amount, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I just think with boxing especially, The thing is, no one had seen Francis fight as a boxer, and no one knew what to expect.
brendan schaub
He surprised everyone.
joe rogan
But then, Anthony Joshua got to study his style and see the holes in his game, and he exploited them like a fucking professional.
brendan schaub
And that's why I said the shock factor is gone, and when he fights Anthony Joshua, this is how it should work.
You're going to see how it really goes down.
So the MMA guys are like, man, Francis do it, maybe I'm going to jump into boxing.
Yes and no.
Because when he fought Anthony, that's really how it should work.
That's how the world should work.
Unfortunately.
joe rogan
Right, unfortunately.
But I'll tell you what, if Francis had gotten into boxing when he got into the UFC, he would be a heavyweight champion of the world.
unidentified
110%.
brian simpson
Speaking of knockout artists, can we get Tank his flowers?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brendan schaub
Javante Davis?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian simpson
We talk about how he's not a boxer.
Why are you saying that?
bryan callen
He's one of the best.
brendan schaub
Well, hold on.
He's the best knockout artist in boxing today.
brian simpson
Yeah, easy.
Easy.
joe rogan
He knocks on everybody.
brian simpson
He sets up his power shots like a fucking...
Technician.
joe rogan
And it's crazy.
Nothing special about the way he looks.
Like, physically, he doesn't look like a power puncher.
He just looks like a regular guy, but his fucking power is extraordinary.
brian simpson
And then that little extra something he got from being around Floyd for that little bit?
joe rogan
That helped for sure.
bryan callen
He and Bud Crawford...
brendan schaub
Him and Floyd hate each other.
unidentified
But he and Bud Crawford are in a class by themselves.
bryan callen
Crawford's another one.
It's just incredible.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, very, very different styles, for sure.
But Gervonta's the most economical.
The thing is, he keeps you backing up, and he wears you out without even using too much energy.
And then as he gets you into the later rounds, you're starting to slow down, and he's just warmed up.
brendan schaub
His boxing IQ's wild, wild, wild.
bryan callen
Those high-level guys figure your patterns out.
They just figure out what you're doing.
brian simpson
You see all of these things of him breaking down his opponent, and then they watch the fight that happened, and he was exactly right.
brendan schaub
He's a technician, yeah, when it comes to boxing.
bryan callen
Yeah, but that's what makes the really good guys good is they can figure you out.
brian simpson
What he's been doing since he was a child, man.
joe rogan
Calvin won this fight, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I would assume he had to.
joe rogan
Here's the decision.
bryan callen
He had to.
joe rogan
Tell you what, I'm really excited.
I love how the Saudi Arabian government and the people, the royal family is throwing massive money.
brendan schaub
The way they spend their money.
joe rogan
And they want to do Terrence Crawford, Canelo Alvarez.
unidentified
Now I'm all in.
brendan schaub
All in.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
brendan schaub
How dope is that guy?
I like boxing.
They go, why don't these two guys fight?
It's money.
He goes, oh, I have money.
joe rogan
We have a lot of money.
brendan schaub
We print it.
How much?
And they're giving it to him.
The boys are getting paid.
joe rogan
Let me tell you something.
Saudi Arabia, they could come to the UFC and go, we will buy you for $200 billion.
And then all of a sudden the UFC is Saudi Arabia.
brian simpson
That's what Dana was saying to Shannon about fighter pay.
He was like, Yeah, these guys got so much money, they don't care if they lose money.
He's like, I care if I lose money.
joe rogan
Unless he's gambling.
brian simpson
Well, yeah.
And then in the same conversation, he was like, yeah, I bet $100,000 a hand.
brendan schaub
Here's the whole thing on fight or pain.
Obviously, back in the day, I was super hard on it.
But my argument has kind of changed, too, where...
brian simpson
Because you're not a fighter no more?
brendan schaub
No, but as a businessman, you're on the outside looking in.
You can argue all you want about fight or pain, how much they should be paying.
What other leagues are around?
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you look at the longevity of the UFC, you look at how massive the UFC is off their pace structure, they're doing something fucking right as far as business.
They're doing something right.
All these other leagues, listen, I watched PFL last night, I watch everything, I'm a degenerate, there's nothing even remotely close to the UFC. The closest thing is one championship.
Because they'll do some jiu-jitsu, they'll do Muay Thai, and they have high-level guys.
The production's really good.
Dude, it's UFC, and then everybody else is so far behind, man.
Everyone's like, oh, we've got to change fighter pay.
It's like, we can.
We can.
That's affliction.
So it's this weird thing.
joe rogan
Let me ask this.
Is the PFL still doing that wacky point thing?
brendan schaub
Yeah, I'm watching last night, and I'm balls deep in the fight, and I was like, I don't know what the fuck is going on.
joe rogan
I don't know what the fuck is going on.
It's too confusing.
They made it complicated for no reason.
brian simpson
Explain that.
joe rogan
It's so weird, man.
brendan schaub
They have a playoff system.
joe rogan
It's also like if you win by knockout, you get X amount of points.
brendan schaub
You get three points.
joe rogan
If you win by submission, you get X amount of points.
brian simpson
And that affects your pay?
unidentified
I don't know.
brendan schaub
No, so the way they put you in playoffs like seeds, so there's a regular season, there's the playoffs, so you have to have a certain amount of points to get to the playoffs, and that depends on your seeding.
joe rogan
So a win is three points, a draw is one point, loss zero points, round one stoppage three points, round two stoppage two points, round three stoppage one bonus point.
That's stupid.
brendan schaub
Now describe that to a casual.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Example, fighters win the first round TKO, six points.
Get out of here with all that.
That's so dumb.
I hate it.
brian simpson
And a submission is one point?
joe rogan
None of it makes any sense.
brendan schaub
And they have no stars.
It's fucking tough, dude.
unidentified
It's tough.
joe rogan
Stoppage.
Submission counts as stoppage.
bryan callen
Is this for if you're fighting in a tournament?
brendan schaub
So they have a regular season, they have a playoff.
Whoever wins the playoff becomes a champion, you get a million bucks.
joe rogan
Listen to me, PFL. Abandon ship.
bryan callen
Stop.
joe rogan
Abandon ship.
No one likes it.
No one loves MMA more than us, and we hate it.
brendan schaub
I fucking hate it.
And then also, get rid of Bellator.
Just make it all under one banner.
Quit doing all that shit.
joe rogan
PFL's good.
It's a good name.
brian simpson
Well, how do they decide the UFC rankings?
joe rogan
Based on who's winning.
It's voted on.
It's based on the experts are deciding.
Experts are loose term, but yeah.
Seems like the press.
A lot of press.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Same way like the BC rankings, BCS rankings.
joe rogan
They're the best.
They're the best rankings we currently have available.
And most people agree on them.
They're very close to what I would say are accurate.
I very rarely disagree with the rankings.
brian simpson
Oh, that's my bull right there.
brendan schaub
Yeah, the only time you'll disagree is like the pound for pound list, which is stupid anyways.
joe rogan
Pound for pound list is so subjective.
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's so weird.
joe rogan
It's like John Jones or Islam, you know?
You could say Islam, you could say John Jones.
I see both arguments.
And then the goat pound for pound, or the goat list, I see GSP. I see the argument for Mighty Mouse.
I see the argument for John.
brendan schaub
It's time period.
brian simpson
I didn't know Rose was still fighting.
joe rogan
Yep.
Yeah.
I don't like the fact she's fighting at Flyweight, though.
brendan schaub
Dude, how about Paige Van Zandt is doing slap fighting?
joe rogan
Is that real?
brendan schaub
Bring it up, Jamie.
joe rogan
Why?
brendan schaub
Paige Van Zandt, it's announced.
jamie vernon
Was that the last fight she had?
unidentified
Wait, wait.
brendan schaub
She lost that porn star.
bryan callen
You don't like Rose at Flyweight?
How come?
joe rogan
She got dropped by a porn star.
brendan schaub
She got dropped, but it was a draw.
In the rematch, I think, in November.
joe rogan
Is it a real porn star or an OnlyFans porn star?
It's still a real porn star.
It's real to me!
brendan schaub
It's real to me!
bryan callen
You don't like Rose at Flyweight?
How come?
joe rogan
I think she's better at straw weight.
I think at straw weight at 115, she carries power.
She's big for the weight class.
She knocked out Joanna Janjacek.
She's really legit at that weight.
I think at 25, it's probably not as hard for her to cut the weight, and that's why she wants to do it, but I just don't see it, man.
I just think she's a flyweight contender.
She's a strawweight champion.
And she's had incredible fights at strawweight.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
Joanna fights?
joe rogan
This does nothing for me.
brendan schaub
Me neither.
There's a massive fan base for it.
joe rogan
I can't figure out.
brendan schaub
Your boy Tony's balls deep in it.
joe rogan
He loves it.
But he is pro wrestling.
He's a pro wrestling heel.
brian simpson
I loved it coming up.
bryan callen
Tony Henshler?
brendan schaub
Oh, when we were kids?
joe rogan
He loves it.
brendan schaub
Yeah, me too.
joe rogan
I loved it when I was 12. Yeah, me too.
brendan schaub
Then my dad was like, Hulk Hogan's not really.
joe rogan
And then my nuts dropped.
brendan schaub
Yeah, then my dad was like, you know Macho Man can't fight, right?
joe rogan
Paige Van Zandt competed at Power Slap 8. Slap fighting debut.
Okay, don't do it, Paige.
brendan schaub
Here's my question.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Well, when she fought Rachel Ostevik at Bare Knuckle, I'm like, please, ladies.
You're both so fucking pretty.
Don't ruin your faces.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
The prettiest girls in the sport, please.
brendan schaub
Save that for the warlock, please.
joe rogan
She's so hot, too.
You guys should just abandon it and start making out.
unidentified
Yeah!
Yeah.
bryan callen
She stays relevant, though.
brendan schaub
Slap fighting?
I get being relevant, but she also makes a ton of money off OnlyFans.
And there's no talent to get slapped.
joe rogan
Chasing that fame.
Chasing that fame to the end of time.
brendan schaub
Boy, I can't get it.
I cannot understand it.
bryan callen
Well, or it's a business decision.
You say, okay, I'll do a slap fighting.
That'll be X number of subscribers to my OnlyFans.
As long as you stay in people's faces.
joe rogan
Unless she makes a deal where I get to slap first.
Can you do that?
Can you say, I'll fight you, but I get to slap first?
brendan schaub
I think you gotta, like...
I don't know how they do it.
They flip the...
joe rogan
You rigged that.
Fuck that quarter.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Danisole.
joe rogan
Rigged that quarter.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
bryan callen
I can't believe it's this popular.
joe rogan
But if she gets slapped first and gets KO'd with one slap by some bull dyke...
brendan schaub
Have you seen the girl she's fighting?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
I mean, you nailed it.
unidentified
Is that it?
joe rogan
You don't see a lot of hot girls doing slap fighting.
bryan callen
Let me see who she's fighting.
joe rogan
Who's Paige Van Zandt fighting, Jamie?
What are we doing here?
It's free brain damage.
Like, why?
You could hit someone so hard with a slap.
Because you're not...
Everybody thinks of a slap as like the palm in the face.
That is not what's happening.
You're getting palm-striked in the face.
Full blast.
bryan callen
That is terrible.
joe rogan
From a full swing, like this.
brendan schaub
You know what the problem is?
Because I think part of the hatred of slap fight, and I used to be so hard on it, now I'm like, whatever, do you, Dana.
The problem is they combined it and started promoting it on the UFC channel.
And then that's when you pissed me off.
I'm like, no, no, don't confuse the public here.
Separate them.
joe rogan
Well, they got Bisping doing commentary for it.
brendan schaub
I would do it.
brian simpson
If the UFC is cocaine, slap fighting is crack.
unidentified
Not even.
joe rogan
UFC is complicated.
Who's the gal?
She's fighting.
She's so pretty.
brendan schaub
No, if UFC is like Flaming Young...
joe rogan
Look, she's practicing on a fucking rubber doll.
brendan schaub
Hilarious.
joe rogan
Oh, look at the girl she's fighting.
Oh, yeah, the girl she's fighting has been through a lot of truck stops.
bryan callen
That's it.
brendan schaub
Oh, man.
bryan callen
That's it.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at the girl she's fighting.
bryan callen
That's a handsome woman.
joe rogan
Look at that girl.
That girl does not give a fuck if you give her a scar.
Oh my god.
bryan callen
That's a big strong lady.
brendan schaub
She's gonna slap the fuck out of you.
joe rogan
Oh, she's got a good slap, too.
brian simpson
She's got an iron face.
unidentified
She looks like a lady to turn on the ovens at Auschwitz.
joe rogan
Grab a hot pan.
No oven mitts.
brendan schaub
A long winter, you know what I'm saying?
joe rogan
Yeah, survives eating dogs in the woods.
brian simpson
She's like me and the kids.
bryan callen
Why is she eating dogs in the woods?
joe rogan
I don't know.
Isn't it weird how they put powder on their hands to make the slap more crazy?
brendan schaub
But to be fair, it's Crush on social media.
brian simpson
They probably got that from Cat Williams.
Remember when he played the pimp?
Paddle me up.
brendan schaub
Paddle me up.
joe rogan
Slap fighting's been around forever, dude.
brendan schaub
Russia was like, what the fuck?
We've been doing this for a hundred years.
joe rogan
So this is the girl she's fighting?
jamie vernon
I saw they just approved the car jiu-jitsu in New York or something.
unidentified
That's wild.
brian simpson
That's an industrial bitch.
bryan callen
Why would you do this, man?
joe rogan
She's getting down low, dude.
brendan schaub
The girl she's slapping?
bryan callen
Oh, this is the worst.
brendan schaub
Not bad.
Her eyes all cocked.
brian simpson
Oh, blow your kiss.
joe rogan
She's got them lip implants, too.
unidentified
Oof.
bryan callen
No, no thank you.
This is awful.
joe rogan
She's probably worried her lip implant's going to get blown out.
bryan callen
Are you allowed to go with it?
brendan schaub
No, you can't go with it.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
Oh, she got KO'd.
Oh, bro.
This is the girl she's finding?
brendan schaub
In those ASICs like that?
joe rogan
And that girl got KO'd.
Look at her legs twisted up.
That's a wrap.
bryan callen
That's really bad for you.
joe rogan
Knock out.
brian simpson
They don't have something for you to fall back on?
joe rogan
Someone catches you.
brendan schaub
No, they do.
Forrest Griffin.
Yeah, he catches you.
bryan callen
That's a major brain injury.
Look at that.
joe rogan
Real legit.
And then you got like Mark Smith, legit MMA referee who's refereeing it.
It's like the crossover.
brendan schaub
That's my problem, the crossover.
If they were just done it completely independent, do you, man.
But when you start mixing the lines.
joe rogan
How did this get sanctioned?
brian simpson
But why did they let her fall?
brendan schaub
I don't know.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Watch this KO. First of all, you don't close your eyes.
Bad move.
bryan callen
Why?
joe rogan
Because you want to see it coming.
You want to tighten up.
unidentified
So your body prepares.
joe rogan
You want to prepare for it.
She did not see it coming, and it probably led to her getting KO'd.
bryan callen
She hit her head in here.
joe rogan
Look at the swing.
Boom!
bryan callen
So bad for you.
joe rogan
Once your head dips down like that, hot too.
Spit on that thing.
bryan callen
I hate it.
I think it's the worst part of our culture right there.
That's just the shittiest part of our culture.
brendan schaub
But if people are making money and that's their only option, do your thing, man.
bryan callen
Fuck all of it.
Making money.
That's what we worship.
joe rogan
What do you worship, Brian?
bryan callen
I'm glad you asked.
Art.
I'm an artist.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
unidentified
Deep art.
joe rogan
Here we go.
I open the door.
brendan schaub
Jesus Christ.
bryan callen
Pull out your pens.
joe rogan
So these guys train together.
They're buddies.
bryan callen
I wish at that which you can't measure.
joe rogan
From Mother Russia.
bryan callen
Boy, they look exactly the same.
Like two brothers.
joe rogan
Yeah, similar.
One's tall, one's thick.
bryan callen
Yeah, one drank more milk.
brendan schaub
Pavlich is just a straight knockout artist.
Eat more beef.
bryan callen
Just fucking giants.
brendan schaub
Volkov's so big.
joe rogan
Oh, he was really good before he got to the UFC. At Bellator.
Who was it?
Yeah, Volkov.
Yeah, Volkov was really fucking good.
brendan schaub
Really fucking good.
Is that a picture at your house?
Is that Kanye's girl?
bryan callen
Volkov is one of those guys that I never understand why doesn't he use a jab more.
Why doesn't he jab the shit out of people?
brian simpson
It's a spoof on that.
brendan schaub
That's dope.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
brian simpson
No, no, no, no.
I bought it.
brendan schaub
Oh, sick.
bryan callen
What's that?
joe rogan
What do you got?
brian simpson
Remember that old picture of Kanye with his new wife look like she's being held hostage?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Somebody replaced him with Darth Vader and made her Princess Leia.
brendan schaub
That's pretty dope.
brian simpson
I bought the fucking print.
brendan schaub
I thought you did do it with your Android or some shit.
unidentified
Shit.
brendan schaub
I need to get me one of those.
brian simpson
Man, if I had the artistic skill to make all my ideas happen...
brendan schaub
You'd be rich.
brian simpson
I'm waiting for that.
That's why I'm waiting for this AI shit to kick off.
brendan schaub
Have Joe talk to Elon.
Put a fucking nerd link in it.
joe rogan
There's another company that just released some videos of this new AI text prompt to video.
And it's even more insane than Sora.
Have you seen that, Jamie?
Fucking insane.
brian simpson
What is it?
joe rogan
You put in the AI, say, dark alleyway, mysterious stranger in a black leather jacket walking towards the camera, and then they have a rainy alleyway, and it's like everything looks perfect, like a real movie, and it does it like that.
brendan schaub
It doesn't look artificial?
joe rogan
No.
No, it looks incredible.
So many people are going to lose jobs?
Oh, everyone's going to lose a job.
Tyler Perry shut down his $800 million production studio.
As soon as he saw Sora, he was like, stop!
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
He was building this massive studio.
This is it.
This is a prompt.
Motorcycle parked in the street corner.
Porch of Amanda's Subway in awe and wonderment.
Look.
This is not a real person.
Landscape of waterfalls in the mountain.
None of this is real.
unidentified
Holy shit.
joe rogan
It's incredible.
So you're going to be able to make movies that are like legit theatrical movies.
brian simpson
Are you doing this, Jamie?
jamie vernon
No, this is just on the website.
I'm just letting it.
joe rogan
This is just the website.
But look how incredible this looks.
bryan callen
And what's it called?
jamie vernon
This is called Runway.
brian simpson
And it's free?
I don't trust that.
jamie vernon
Most of these things are not free.
brian simpson
If they sign up, it's free.
joe rogan
But you could have it look cartoonish.
You could have it look realistic.
You could have it look like a fucking stuffed animal.
brian simpson
Yeah, bro.
They started putting rules on ChatGPT.
They should.
bryan callen
The country music that they're making now.
brian simpson
Show me how to rob Bank of America.
And they were like, we can't help you with this.
What I ask should be between me and my AI. It shouldn't be them telling me what I can say.
brendan schaub
No, because it gets in the wrong hand.
joe rogan
Show me how to spit on that thing.
One of the things they did was they said, my grandmother used to make nuclear weapons.
How would she do that?
And then it'll tell you, yeah, you get around it.
Instead of, how do I make a nuclear weapon?
You say, oh, my grandmother made a nuclear weapon.
bryan callen
Or you can say, I make napalm like this, and then it'll correct you.
brendan schaub
I don't like any of it.
unidentified
That's hilarious.
brendan schaub
I don't like any of it.
We're going down a wrong road.
It's not good.
joe rogan
Oh, you're not stopping that road, buddy.
brendan schaub
Oh, I'm aware.
I'm aware.
bryan callen
Did you hear this?
I heard a country music song.
It was damn good.
joe rogan
It was actually really funny and good, and it was generated by AI. They made a huck, too, a spit on that thing, country music song.
brendan schaub
I'm sure.
Are you serious?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, they did.
brendan schaub
Well, you know Drake used Tupac and Biggie's voice in his diss track.
joe rogan
There you go.
unidentified
I love you, Pookie, forever!
brian simpson
Who the fuck's Pookie?
unidentified
Speaking of Drake, did you see Kendrick dance on his grave the other day?
joe rogan
What's that?
brian simpson
Kendrick did a pop-up concert in LA. What's this one, Jim?
brendan schaub
In LA, yes.
It was lit.
brian simpson
He brought together the Bloods, the Crips from all the different neighborhoods, and everybody was on stage just partying.
joe rogan
Really?
brian simpson
Singing all the songs he shit on Drake with.
unidentified
Wow!
brendan schaub
And they all at the same time go, minor!
God, dog, damn.
brian simpson
I mean, he did a whole long-ass concert, and he did Not Like Us like six times.
unidentified
Yeah.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
brian simpson
Nothing else before, you know, we continue to part?
unidentified
Yeah, okay. - Okay.
brian simpson
I'm gonna just need a moment of silence for this.
unidentified
Sad.
joe rogan
How crazy is this beef?
It never ends.
This beef is going on forever.
brendan schaub
Yeah, that's the wrong guy.
The real street guy?
joe rogan
But Kendrick is such a good writer.
brian simpson
This is like the stamp on it.
brendan schaub
This was the finale.
brian simpson
He's like, I have more influence.
I can bring together the whole West Coast.
brendan schaub
He has more credibility, right?
brian simpson
I don't think Drake could do that in Toronto.
brendan schaub
No.
brian simpson
I don't know, maybe.
bryan callen
What's the beep originate from?
What's the deal?
brian simpson
Oh, where do we start?
Drake has done a lot of weird things, but the main thing was Kendrick did the control verse.
He was on a song with Big Sean, with a whole bunch of other rappers, and then he shit on...
He basically challenged every rapper, but in a friendly way, like all his friends.
And every rapper took it on the chin, like, yeah, that's his hip-hop, it's competition.
And then Drake did an interview where he was like...
You know, I thought he was my friend.
Like, why would he say that?
Like, he took it all sensitive.
bryan callen
Wow.
brian simpson
Yeah, and then Lamar was on the BET Awards cypher, and he said something to him again.
You know, something about tucking a sensitive rapper back in his pajamas or something like that.
And then, ever since then, they've been kind of like subtly little shots back and forth.
joe rogan
And then he got serious.
brian simpson
Yeah, and then Kendrick left his label.
I think the label was holding him back from, like, going all out.
brendan schaub
Because people kept wondering, like, Kendrick, respond, respond.
It was, like, taking forever.
brian simpson
Yeah, and so then Drake did a song called First Person Shooter with J. Cole that they wanted Kendrick on, and Kendrick didn't want to be on it.
And so...
And they were calling themselves the Big Three, but Kendrick wasn't on it.
So then he dropped another song that was like, there's no Big Three.
joe rogan
It's just Big Me.
brian simpson
Here we go.
joe rogan
Heavyweights.
brian simpson
It was awesome.
bryan callen
Well, I guess Justin Timberlake wasn't selling well on his concert.
Do you hear this?
joe rogan
You think that's why he got arrested for drink driving?
bryan callen
I don't know.
It's that conspiracy.
joe rogan
You're a conspiracy theorist.
Do you believe that Tyson Fury carried Francis in Ghana?
bryan callen
I do.
I actually do believe that.
joe rogan
You're a ridiculous person.
bryan callen
No, I think he got paid for it, too.
brendan schaub
Volkov has to stay on his toes.
Yeah, this is a circle and don't get to the cage.
joe rogan
Pavlovich is such a tank.
Look at the way that guy's built.
He's such a house.
brian simpson
How are they the same size?
How are they the same weight?
joe rogan
Well, Volkov's real tall.
brendan schaub
Volkov's at least 6'7".
They say they have him at 6'7", probably 6'8".
I used to train with him at Black House.
bryan callen
Never understand why he doesn't use his jab more with those long arms.
joe rogan
He's got a great front kick.
He does a great front kick to the middle.
Having one of those with a tall guy, it's such an advantage.
brendan schaub
And I want to take credit for his new samurai tattoo, because he did have the Moana stingray, and I would roast him every fight, and then all of a sudden he has this dope-ass samurai tattoo.
joe rogan
Yeah, the samurai's way better.
brendan schaub
That Moana was tough.
brian simpson
But it's wild for your whole back to be your first tattoo.
joe rogan
Well, he had a back tattoo that was not as big, and he had to fill it in.
brendan schaub
It was a straight up Moana.
It was a Monterey.
bryan callen
It was just so scary.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was a Manta Ray, right?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
Manta Ray or Monterey?
joe rogan
Manta.
Manta Ray.
unidentified
He looked pretty bitch in Russia.
joe rogan
Pavlovich is such a fucking scary striker man.
unidentified
He is.
brendan schaub
How about Tom Aspinall?
It's like short notice knocks his ass out.
joe rogan
Tom Aspinall's fucking good, man.
brendan schaub
I think he's the best in the world.
brian simpson
This your first tattoo.
What you want to start with?
The Yakuza.
joe rogan
Okay, you think Tom Aspinall beats Francis Ngannou?
brendan schaub
Absolutely.
bryan callen
I do.
joe rogan
Mmm.
unidentified
Boy.
brian simpson
Word.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Boy.
You guys are alone on that one.
brendan schaub
Especially now.
Especially now.
All he's doing is focus on boxing.
bryan callen
Especially if he takes him to the ground.
joe rogan
Now it's a different thing.
brian simpson
See, I think Francis will come back better.
joe rogan
But he's also 37, 38. Correct.
brian simpson
And he's never really lost that way.
joe rogan
That way is a bad way to lose, man.
To get flatlined, like out cold, laid out, legs stretched, not moving for minutes.
brendan schaub
You're never going to see Francis in MMA again.
PFL ain't happening.
No, no, no.
That's all hype, great stock value.
joe rogan
You think so?
brendan schaub
Yes.
brian simpson
Did they give him a big-ass bag?
brendan schaub
Sure.
joe rogan
By the way, that guy who might fight, that Brazilian dude, is fucking good, man.
He's dangerous.
brendan schaub
You've never seen that fight.
joe rogan
Who's that cat?
What's that dude's name again?
brendan schaub
Caesar something, right?
brian simpson
But don't you think, based on what he stands for, if Francis doesn't fight again, won't that make Dana's argument even stronger?
brendan schaub
I don't think Francis gives a fuck.
joe rogan
He's just making money, man.
brendan schaub
He has so much money, and then to go back to PFL and fight this Brazilian monster nobody knows, there's just no upside for him.
They don't have anybody.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's set for the rest of his life if he doesn't do anything crazy with his money.
And then he'll always have things that he can do to generate money, seminars, meet and greets, all that kind of shit.
He'll always have extra money coming in.
I mean, the guy was a UFC heavyweight champion, knocked down Tyson Fury in his first boxing fight ever.
I mean, he's a legend forever.
brendan schaub
He's still going to box.
bryan callen
We forget something.
brendan schaub
He has a boxing fight coming up.
unidentified
But we forget.
brendan schaub
He's going back to boxing.
I bet he fights Deontay Wilder.
bryan callen
If he can get...
You know, he lost his son.
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
You think Deontay Wilder is going to fight again?
unidentified
No.
brendan schaub
Yes.
joe rogan
I hope not.
When that big Chinese dude knocked him out like that.
That Chinese dude was 40 years old, too.
brendan schaub
Freaking massive.
bryan callen
He's a big, big fella.
brendan schaub
He wants to fight Joshua.
Joshua fought him in the Olympics.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brendan schaub
And beat him, of course.
Joshua won.
bryan callen
Joshua is really a killer.
But I think Ngannou lost his son.
I don't even know where his head's at.
I can't imagine.
I can't imagine.
He's got to be dealing with the deepest grief.
brendan schaub
No, I can't.
Yeah, I can't.
brian simpson
How did his son die?
bryan callen
I don't know.
But it's such a...
It was so terrible.
I think he was...
How old was his son?
joe rogan
Very young.
unidentified
Three or four.
brendan schaub
I think three.
joe rogan
Was it three?
Yeah.
bryan callen
Horrible.
unidentified
Oh, God.
bryan callen
Horrible.
If you have kids, it's like unthinkable.
Jesus Christ.
I feel so bad for him, man.
brendan schaub
He's gonna box again, though.
unidentified
Fifteen months old.
joe rogan
Fifteen months.
brendan schaub
I was way off.
bryan callen
Just terrible.
joe rogan
Goddamn, that's horrible.
Pabovic's nose is already busted up.
brian simpson
Say what you want about Volkov.
He's never really had a boring fight, either.
joe rogan
No, Volkov has good fights.
brendan schaub
Dude, he was beating Derek Lewis, and then with fucking a minute left, Derek knocked him out.
joe rogan
That was when my balls are hot.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
That's right.
joe rogan
That was that one.
That one was amazing.
brendan schaub
Volkov has won, I think, four in a row?
This might be, if he wins this four in a row, this might be five in a row.
What is it, Jamie?
joe rogan
Where's Volkov training these days?
brendan schaub
Russia.
joe rogan
Is he?
brendan schaub
I think so.
He was at Alliance.
And then I would train with him down there.
And then at Black House.
joe rogan
Does it say where Volkov's training, Jamie?
jamie vernon
The Strela team?
joe rogan
Strela.
Hmm.
Because, like, where does a guy like that find people to train with?
A guy who's that big.
I mean, it's got a...
A limited amount of people that size, you know?
brendan schaub
You can get some boxers in there.
It's going to be tough to find wrestlers, though.
So it'll just be his fourth in a rut.
Heavyweight, you're right there.
Especially beat Pavlovich, one more, and then it's slim pickings.
And then if John and Stipe fight, neither one will ever fight soon.
bryan callen
Where's Cyril gone, Ben?
brendan schaub
Shooting a movie.
joe rogan
Oh yeah?
What movie?
brendan schaub
Bad Boys 5?
unidentified
Oh, really?
brendan schaub
I made that up.
I don't know.
jamie vernon
There's a UFC France coming up, too, in September.
joe rogan
Oh.
brendan schaub
It's a fight night, though.
Because they offered Cyril Gunn the fight against Tom Aslanall in England, and he turned it down and said he was on a movie set.
joe rogan
Damn.
bryan callen
That'd be a good fight.
joe rogan
Interesting.
brian simpson
That would be a great fight.
brendan schaub
I disagree.
unidentified
Really?
brendan schaub
I think Tom mops the floor.
bryan callen
Wrestling-wise, you mean?
He takes him down?
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
John Lurie was like, come here.
18 seconds.
bryan callen
I was just thinking striking-wise.
brendan schaub
Take him right down so fucking fast.
brian simpson
What do you think Jones-Espino?
brendan schaub
That's the fight.
brian simpson
That's the fight everybody wants to fucking see!
God!
I want to see it so bad.
joe rogan
John was shitting all over Aspinall.
unidentified
He was.
brendan schaub
I think that's a bad way to go.
joe rogan
He was lucky that he blew his knee out with Curtis Blades because Curtis was teeing off on him.
brendan schaub
Doing well.
joe rogan
Curtis was.
He was.
brian simpson
See, I still think John wins easily, but...
brendan schaub
Ooh, not easily.
brian simpson
No?
brendan schaub
No.
See, I think the angle of, oh, Tom's not that good.
I've fought newcomers before.
No, build him up, bro.
Build him up.
And be like, yeah, maybe this is a guy that's going to beat me.
And then when you come back, come out of retirement after you beat Stipe, that fight's massive.
joe rogan
Yeah, but he has to talk shit like that just for strategy.
brian simpson
But that's the thing.
I don't think anybody's excited to see him fight Stipe.
Correct.
brendan schaub
I'm excited to see Jon fight anybody.
But the Stipe fight, I don't know who's asking for it.
And I love Stipe.
He's one of the greatest of all time.
It's a weird thing.
bryan callen
Aspinall's an athlete, man.
He's such a good athlete.
brendan schaub
Freak out.
joe rogan
Very fast.
Very fast for a heavyweight.
bryan callen
So fast.
brian simpson
We felt the same way about Cyril Ghan, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, but Cyril Ghan doesn't have wrestling, doesn't have jiu-jitsu.
Aspinall's like legit on the ground.
Very legit on the ground.
brendan schaub
So legit that his dad owned jiu-jitsu, Jim.
His dad's a black belt.
bryan callen
He started doing jiu-jitsu at 2. And remember, Aspinall came out of Tyson Furious Camp, too.
brendan schaub
Well, he trained for them.
brian simpson
But you know that quick video of John rolling with Gordon?
Yeah, and it was like, they weren't neck and neck, but it was still like...
brendan schaub
Oh, that's Gordon being cool.
joe rogan
You have to understand how Gordon trains.
brendan schaub
Gordon with time and knots, yeah.
joe rogan
When Gordon trains, Gordon rolls with you technically.
Gordon does not explode.
There's no explosion.
Everything is like smooth movements.
Everything is just technique, smooth movements, scrambles.
There's no explosion.
It's never overextended.
Gordon is just pure technique.
brendan schaub
Yeah, no, if there's money on the line, he said, Gordon, we'll give you $100,000.
We can tap John out in 30 seconds.
joe rogan
Gordon would grab ahold of his leg.
He would get his leg so quick.
Unless John avoided him.
Unless John uses wrestling to avoid exchanges.
You know what that's all about.
brendan schaub
Correct.
It's called the Shob Shutdown.
joe rogan
The Shob Shutdown.
I saw a seven-part series on it.
unidentified
They did with Cyborg.
brendan schaub
Yes.
Seven-part series.
joe rogan
If he just decides to shut it down, then he doesn't come close to him.
brendan schaub
But if they're, like, engaging, Gordon, snap his fucking leg off.
joe rogan
Yeah, Gordon grabs a hold of a leg, and that's a wrap.
brian simpson
So you think Asminal's Jiu-Jitsu is at that level?
brendan schaub
No, no.
Not at Gordon's level.
brian simpson
Nobody is.
brendan schaub
But as far as heavyweight MMA, yeah, Tom's right up there.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
brendan schaub
You're by far the best in the division.
joe rogan
Volkov is teeing off on Sergei.
He's hitting him with some serious low kicks, man.
brendan schaub
Technician.
He has to just stay on the bike.
Remember, he did this with Derrick Lewis, and then the minute you get tired, these big boys keep hitting.
joe rogan
But he's also, like, fucking his nose up, man.
brendan schaub
His feints are great.
His movement's great.
joe rogan
And that distance is something to fuck with.
That distance is a lot.
The gap.
He's just so tall.
brendan schaub
Bro, you remember Stefan Struve?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, man.
brendan schaub
7'2".
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, man.
bryan callen
So big.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
But why Pavlovich?
I mean, Volkov never uses a jab.
He's got those long arms.
brendan schaub
He's using that tonight, bro.
You gotta watch the fucking fight.
bryan callen
I am.
I haven't seen much.
He uses those front kicks, but he could piston that.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's fucking up Pavlovich's legs, man.
He's kicked his legs multiple times.
brian simpson
I thought Eddie was going to be here.
I was ready for some conspiracy theories.
joe rogan
No, that's why you're here.
bryan callen
Once the liquor starts flowing.
brian simpson
I'm telling you the earth is a rhombus, bro.
brendan schaub
The problem is that he's right on about 90% of stuff, at least.
joe rogan
You know what people forgot about?
Sammy Schilt.
Ooh, fuck yeah.
Giant kickboxer.
Great footwork.
Seven foot tall.
brendan schaub
And great footwork.
joe rogan
Nasty front kick to the body.
brian simpson
I don't know what it is.
joe rogan
Semichel was a world champion kickboxer.
unidentified
World champion.
joe rogan
Elite of the elite.
brendan schaub
Elite elite.
joe rogan
Super tall guy.
brendan schaub
If he decided to play basketball, he would have been professional in that.
joe rogan
Remember the nastiest finishes ever when Sergei Karotanov got on top of him and kept punching him in the one eye?
brendan schaub
Yeah.
joe rogan
His one eye was fucked up and he kept hammer fisting.
He got him in a crucifix and just mounted him, like high mount, and just hammered his bloody eye when he was screaming.
brendan schaub
You know in Game of Thrones when the fucking mount just says that?
It was kind of like that.
brian simpson
Can't you just say tap?
joe rogan
He wasn't gonna.
brendan schaub
No, we don't fuck that noise.
joe rogan
Especially in Pride.
You do that shit in Pride, they won't have you back.
brendan schaub
No.
brian simpson
If you tap?
joe rogan
Pride was the most ruthless organization.
Dude, stomps, soccer kicks, everything was legal.
brendan schaub
I did a post for...
joe rogan
But no elbows on the ground.
unidentified
Yeah.
They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa.
brendan schaub
Boys, boys, we're not savages here.
You can kick them in the head.
bryan callen
That is so weird, those random rules.
joe rogan
That was the weirdest random rule.
No elbows on the ground.
brendan schaub
I posted the best highlights of Pride, and I said, it's Pride Month for June.
joe rogan
Yeah, a lot of those are going around the internet.
That was awesome.
Yeah, look at Pavlich's nose.
It's leaking, man.
I mean, he just keeps getting popped.
brendan schaub
Pride was the best time ever.
Golden years.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
brian simpson
It's still around, right?
joe rogan
No.
USC bought it.
brendan schaub
Folded it.
joe rogan
And brought up a bunch of the guys over here and then tested them and they all shrunk.
Everybody shriveled.
brendan schaub
Except for over him.
It was a good time.
It was a good time.
It was the best of times.
They brought him over here like, what are we doing?
Let him fight.
Rampage is a good one to have on.
Talk about Pride.
joe rogan
Yeah, Rampage is coming on soon.
brendan schaub
He's the best.
brian simpson
That's my boy.
If you're over 35, you should be able to juice.
brendan schaub
100%.
joe rogan
I think so.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
unidentified
100%.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brian simpson
Why not?
Like, we gotta be careful with the young guys.
We can't have another, like, TRT, Belfort era.
brendan schaub
Why?
brian simpson
Why?
brendan schaub
You don't like awesome shit?
joe rogan
Yeah, we need to have that.
brian simpson
I do, but that dude was...
joe rogan
Yeah, exciting.
I got pissed.
unidentified
We're right back.
bryan callen
Isn't there a new rule where you can do TRT now?
brendan schaub
Absolutely not.
bryan callen
No?
joe rogan
Brian, you're so uninformed.
I felt that.
brian simpson
Oh, yeah.
bryan callen
No, that I'm telling you.
unidentified
Shut the fuck up.
bryan callen
I'm telling you.
brendan schaub
No, they don't allow...
joe rogan
Brian, while I'm gone.
unidentified
They don't allow TRT. Wasn't it talk about it?
bryan callen
Like you can get sanctioned for it under some circumstances?
brian simpson
Yo, what the fuck is that?
brendan schaub
Certain commissions, what?
brian simpson
Is that a regular clock?
unidentified
Yeah.
brian simpson
Is that what time it is?
jamie vernon
Four o'clock.
brendan schaub
Yeah, four o'clock.
We started at what, two?
unidentified
That's fucking cool.
brendan schaub
Shit, this is the co-main event.
Yeah, that clock's cool.
Very steampunk-ish.
jamie vernon
Brian, I should explain that Young Thug stuff.
Oh, he just took his headphones off.
brian simpson
I want one of these.
brendan schaub
Give us the Young Thug stuff.
brian simpson
Oh, man, I'm obsessed.
brendan schaub
Tell us about that Young Thug stuff.
Are you not following this?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
You have a great breakdown on it.
brian simpson
It's incredible.
brendan schaub
Oh, should we wait for Joe to come back and talk Young Thug?
jamie vernon
Well, maybe after the fight, too.
brendan schaub
It's interesting because the lawyer fucking the...
brian simpson
I think that the trial's going to be over pretty soon because the judges don't get...
The Supreme Court of Judges gonna step in.
bryan callen
I know nothing about it.
brendan schaub
Brian's 16 years old.
brian simpson
See, the thing is, I don't know shit about the actual Young Thug's case.
bryan callen
Oh, okay.
brian simpson
The interesting shit is what's going on with the...
brendan schaub
It's all the drama.
brian simpson
Yeah, so that district attorney...
brendan schaub
With the lawyer, the district attorney...
bryan callen
Who's Young Thug?
I don't even know that.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
brian simpson
Young Thug's a rapper.
bryan callen
Okay.
brendan schaub
Talk that shit, Brian.
brian simpson
And he's on trial with a RICO trial.
So his whole organization is on trial.
bryan callen
For racketeering?
brian simpson
For racketeering, yeah.
But that district attorney is the same lady that tried to try Trump, but she's like corrupt.
bryan callen
Fanny Willis.
brian simpson
Fanny Willis.
brendan schaub
She slept with...
bryan callen
She was dating the prosecutor.
brian simpson
She gave the dude, she was fucking the no-bid contract.
Yep.
And the lawyer that was trying to take her down is Brian Steele's lawyer.
Brian Steele is Young Thug's lawyer.
So they come into court one day, everyone's three hours late except him.
He's like, what the fuck is going on?
And then he finds out that the judge had a, what they call an ex parte, just means just seek like a meeting without him.
bryan callen
Right.
brian simpson
Ex parte meeting with the prosecutor, the district attorney, who's the prosecutor, and the star witness.
So the star witness, he got immunity to testify, but the key witness to the whole case, he gets on the stand and pleases the fifth.
So, they take him in the judge's chambers and him, the sheriff, the prosecutor, and the judge pressure this guy into testifying.
Because he basically tells him...
brendan schaub
Which is illegal.
brian simpson
The judge tells him, like, I can hold you, not just until the end of this trial, until all the trials are over.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brian simpson
So you could be in jail for seven, eight years without being charged with a crime.
unidentified
Damn.
brian simpson
And so then the dude was like, okay, I'll testify.
Problem is...
That dude's lawyer went on vacation.
He told them ahead of time he was going on vacation.
He couldn't cancel the tickets a year ago.
And he leaves this girl behind to take his place.
The witness fires that girl before they go into the meeting, but they force her to sit in the meeting so he could say he had representation.
Right?
So then, boom.
So Young Thug's attorney finds out about it.
He's like, hey judge, it's highly unusual and illegal for you to have a meeting with a sworn-in witness and the prosecution.
And the judge goes, how'd you find out about that?
And so it turns into this.
It turns into this whole drama of like, he's like, yo, if you don't tell me how you found out, I'm going to hold you in contempt.
So he holds him in contempt.
And then his attorney shows up and it's the same bitch that was trying to take down the prosecutor from the Trump thing.
And she's like, I got 25 other lawyers with me.
We filing all these motions for this and motions for that.
They get him out of jail the next day.
So he's in jail with his client.
He's in jail with Young Thug.
They get him out of jail the next day.
The Supreme Court of Georgia was like, no, he's not in contempt until we have a hearing.
And in this hearing, now all this other information is coming out.
Because even if, let's just say the meeting was legal, they're supposed to have a transcript.
They're supposed to tell them what happened.
And so it was shit called Brady Evidence, which means If the prosecutor finds out something that could exonerate your client, they have to tell you.
And in that meeting with the judge, the key witness told them, he was like, I killed the guy.
And if I go on the stand and say anything other than that, I'm going to be perjuring myself.
And the prosecutor was like, well, I'm not going to charge you with perjury if you perjure yourself.
So basically, like, go lie.
bryan callen
Damn.
brian simpson
But now it's illegal because I just found out something that could make Young Thug innocent.
I have to share it.
So not only did they not tell the lawyer about the meeting, not only did they not...
bryan callen
So Young Thug was being originally charged with murder?
brian simpson
He's being charged with murder, racketeering, for running a criminal organization.
But this murder was the key murder.
Yeah.
Wow.
bryan callen
Damn.
brendan schaub
It's a great fight.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brian simpson
I'm sitting there talking through it.
brendan schaub
No, you're good.
bryan callen
Pavlovich's face looks like a tomato.
Like a bumpy tomato.
brendan schaub
But he's coming on strong.
Like he's applying the pressure.
That's why he's getting lit up.
bryan callen
That it is.
Uh-oh.
brendan schaub
Brian was just breaking down the young thug situation.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, isn't that crazy?
He broke it down the other day in the green room and then I started watching videos.
brendan schaub
Brian's a lawyer now.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
brian simpson
Dude, I get obsessed.
Law shit's the only thing that gets me through depression.
bryan callen
Really?
brian simpson
Man, I just lock in.
Law and order.
joe rogan
You think you could have been a lawyer?
brian simpson
Oh yeah.
That's what I wanted to be.
joe rogan
Really?
brian simpson
Yeah, I wanted to be a lawyer.
But then I met a few, and I was like, nah.
joe rogan
They're not fun.
brian simpson
They're just a different ethic.
bryan callen
I guess being a trial lawyer would be interesting, right?
You gotta get there, though.
brian simpson
No, no, no.
The truth is, real lawyering isn't that exciting like they make it look on TV. It's details.
It's boring.
bryan callen
I know a couple trial lawyers.
Pretty wild.
joe rogan
When you see a dude's head not moving so good, like bobbing around as they throw punches and moving, that's 15. Volkov won that fight.
Volkov won.
Because you see Pavlov...
bryan callen
Pavlov didn't put a hand on him, I don't think.
joe rogan
I just sent Jamie the AI Hawk to a song.
Oh, this is the Connor one, but yeah, the AI did a song.
unidentified
The stars shining bright.
She went up to work.
It's bad on that thing.
bryan callen
What a pretty sight.
unidentified
She polished my not good.
bryan callen
This is AI.
With a twist and a glide.
unidentified
She made me go crazy every time she did it.
What a wild delight.
I think her name was Haley.
bryan callen
Where'd you run?
unidentified
We were hotter than the summers, baby.
Hotter than the sun.
brian simpson
That's wild.
unidentified
Is music so coordinated that the A.I. can make a good song?
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
Especially country songs.
All you need is a river, a pickup truck, you know, some cold beers.
This is Connor.
I agree with Connor here.
Connor's talking about why he pulled out of the fight.
unidentified
He was talking to In a way, you know, I had a little lapse of concentration and, you know, I had to reschedule the bell, so I'm a little upset about that, but, you know, it's keeping me dialed in.
It's keeping me focused, you know?
I can't rock around like I'm at the showing up, like I'm at the only job.
The job is not done.
So, you know, that's not bad for me, for someone like me, you know?
So, I'm onwards towards the new date.
And, you know, take my lessons learned.
It was an elapsing concentration.
If I was any one of these other little bums that can't move, that have no footwork, that don't rely on their skills, you know, then I would be okay.
And I've done it before.
I've made the walk a multitude of times under those circumstances and given these bums an advantage over me that they don't even deserve.
So now I'm dialing it in.
I'm getting this training camps correct.
I'm walking in there 100% Conor McGregor.
Injury free.
Perfection is on the menu with me.
And let's see it.
I hope you go to it.
joe rogan
And that is a dangerous man.
bryan callen
Great to see you in there.
Dan Hardy.
joe rogan
Yeah, Dan Hardy's great.
brendan schaub
He's the best.
joe rogan
I was bummed out when they fired him.
So stupid.
bryan callen
Why did they fire him?
He's great.
unidentified
I don't know, man.
brendan schaub
He said something to Herb Dean.
Yeah, it was a little more than that.
And he said something to a worker.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know what happened.
You know, look, he's a fighter.
He felt like the fight was stopped too late and, you know, it's dangerous when that kind of shit happens.
brian simpson
For him or for him or like he was winning and they stopped it too late?
brendan schaub
No, he was a commentator.
joe rogan
He was a commentator and he got upset at Herb, who's the best referee alive.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Or one of them.
brendan schaub
But there was that that started, and then there was something with someone, the UFC employee, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know what happened.
brendan schaub
I don't know what's going on there.
joe rogan
I don't know what happened, but I miss him.
I used to train with him at Tenth Planet.
brendan schaub
He's the best.
joe rogan
He's a good dude.
brendan schaub
One of the best minds in the game.
joe rogan
Great mind.
brian simpson
I want Connor to apologize for that shitty movie he made.
brendan schaub
It was entertaining, dawg.
You didn't like it?
brian simpson
No.
joe rogan
You liked Roadhouse?
bryan callen
I like how cliche it was.
brendan schaub
I didn't expect it to be fucking, you know.
bryan callen
But it was kind of like a comedy, right?
I mean, that's sort of tongue-in-cheek.
It was so ridiculous.
joe rogan
I don't know.
brendan schaub
It's just an action movie.
You know what?
I didn't see it, but listen.
joe rogan
They filmed it at the UFC. Oh, really?
Yeah, they filmed scenes at the UFC. Oh, yeah, I saw him walking out.
It was so stupid.
bryan callen
It was so stupid, but it was good.
joe rogan
They wanted me to interview him.
brian simpson
I'm not a fan of So Bad It's Good.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brian simpson
No.
brendan schaub
I'm a fan of how many people...
I think the opening week was like 50 million.
I'm a fan of when a fighter ventures out into something, they do well.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm a fan of that.
brendan schaub
And I don't get why people hate on it.
joe rogan
Conor McGregor can do anything.
brendan schaub
Whenever a fighter does anything, like Dustin Poirier's hot sauce, best hot sauce I've ever had.
bryan callen
It's very good.
brian simpson
I didn't hate on it when I heard about it.
I hate on it after I watched it.
brendan schaub
That's fair.
brian simpson
It wasn't good.
joe rogan
Both guys are heavyweights.
Look at that.
That's a former heavyweight champion.
Look at that.
Volkov standing next to a former heavyweight champion.
brendan schaub
So crazy.
That's how good DC was.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's how good DC was.
DC should have been a 185 pounder.
Correct.
brendan schaub
Maybe even one company.
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Just kidding.
joe rogan
180 though.
185?
brian simpson
Oh, I hate it when people do that.
joe rogan
What?
brian simpson
He shook his hand as he was walking away.
Like, he did this.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah.
Disrespectful.
joe rogan
Why do you hate that?
brian simpson
I don't know.
brendan schaub
Pull a little effort into it.
brian simpson
It makes me feel in some kind of way.
joe rogan
I know they're in a hurry.
They're happy.
brian simpson
And they got somebody in their ear.
joe rogan
Here we go.
Robert the Reaper.
Bobby Knuckles in the fucking house.
brendan schaub
Dude, can you imagine if there's Bo Nickel getting ready right now?
joe rogan
Oh, man, I would love it.
And Hamzat, if it was Hamzat right now.
Hey, bro, these new gloves, they ain't no better than the old gloves.
brendan schaub
No, the only cool thing about them is the colors.
bryan callen
So what did they do?
What did they change?
joe rogan
They made a better glove.
It is better, I should say.
It's better padding.
The best gloves, the best gloves, are clearly not made yet.
They need to cover the fingers.
You know, they just, they need to cover the fingers.
There's no reason for the, you don't ever do this.
Ever.
The fingers never come into play.
There's not a time where your fingers, you always do this or this.
brendan schaub
Interlock, yeah.
joe rogan
Whether it's grappling or striking, all you have to do is have padding on the knuckles and a protective layer, a thin leather layer that covers the hands that the fingers slip into.
bryan callen
But what about wrist control?
joe rogan
Then you cut out...
bryan callen
Like grabbing the hands and stuff.
joe rogan
It's the same.
It's exactly the same.
The only thing different, the only thing different is you now, you can get jabbed with the thumbs.
So only thumb pokes will still exist and we'll have less pokes because a lot of our eyes, it eliminates probably 90% of all eye pokes and it doesn't change anything with grappling, anything with striking.
You have it like an Everlast bag glove.
But no padding.
And so with the finger area, completely unpadded, and just a thin leather cover that covers over that and goes to the fingers right here.
bryan callen
Can you rod wrists and stuff?
joe rogan
Not only that, you'd be able to do it better because leather, especially if it's raw leather, if it's not shiny, if it's raw leather, isn't that dope?
brian simpson
That's cool.
joe rogan
Shane Against the Machine.
He made that with thimbles.
brian simpson
Shane Against the Machine?
joe rogan
Yeah, he did.
We have another one of his pieces.
I have one at home, another skull that he made for me.
And then another one we have, which is a World War II helmet with a bayonet in it.
unidentified
That's cool.
joe rogan
It's a lamp, but it's in our storage.
But I love that one.
But yeah, man, cover the fucking fingers.
There's no reason to have these fingers open like this.
This is so unnecessary.
If you just had a covering over the fingertips that's a thin piece of leather, you would eliminate all those fingers going in the eyeballs.
bryan callen
So your fingers would go into a glove?
joe rogan
You'd still get poked a little bit, but it wouldn't be that Yeah, that's not as bad.
brendan schaub
It's not going to stop a fight.
bryan callen
You would have it webbed, like bad gloves, those old black gloves.
joe rogan
Exactly, like I said, yeah.
Just cover it with one thin piece of layer of leather, and it would make gripping better.
brian simpson
What is the argument against?
joe rogan
No argument against it.
Again, nobody listens to me.
brendan schaub
There's no argument.
joe rogan
Nobody listens to me.
brendan schaub
That's because you told them to do it on an open field, so they just shut you out.
joe rogan
I told them to do a football field.
brendan schaub
Yeah, which is insane.
joe rogan
Have those guys in the middle of the football field.
I'm not stupid.
I know what I'm doing.
I'm right.
I'm right.
Nobody wants to listen.
I have a bunch of rules that I would implement if I was the king.
Here's number one.
Number one, no stand-ups ever.
No stand-ups.
I don't give a fuck.
brendan schaub
Get up.
joe rogan
Figure out how to get up.
Also, if a guy takes you down at the end of the first round, the second round starts with you in that exact same station.
100%.
You can never get up unless you get up.
Because it's not one...
Yep, I hate views.
bryan callen
I hate ratings.
That sounds so boring.
joe rogan
It's not five fights.
It's not five five-minute fights.
It's one fight.
So if a guy takes you down, that's where you are at the beginning of the next round.
brendan schaub
You get the one minute break though.
You just start in that.
brian simpson
I also like the idea that the judges only see the last round.
joe rogan
I think there should be six judges.
Not three.
Six judges.
And then I also think that you should have, for sure, you have no weight cutting.
Weight cutting should be completely eliminated.
For sure.
That should be the first one.
Before they implement any of these rule changes, cut all this legalized cheating shit.
Kamaru Usman is not 170 pounds.
He's never been 170 pounds for more than...
Five minutes.
bryan callen
Five seconds, yeah.
joe rogan
He loses the weight and then immediately rehydrates.
You stand next to him.
The guy's massive.
brendan schaub
Balloons up.
joe rogan
He's so big.
brian simpson
Why an even number of judges?
joe rogan
You need more judges.
Three's not enough.
brendan schaub
And I don't think they should be ringside.
I think it should be a remote location where they're not influenced by the crowd.
joe rogan
I think they should be able to watch the fight and hear the commentators.
Maybe not the commentators.
brendan schaub
I don't think they should be next to the ring.
joe rogan
I think they should have a separate...
I don't think next to the ring is bad, because then you get to hear what's going on, like maybe something's happening.
brendan schaub
Let them listen to the commentators.
brian simpson
Maybe have one next to the ring.
joe rogan
I don't know.
But that's debatable.
But more judges.
More judges.
brendan schaub
More judges.
joe rogan
So that if you have one cockeyed asshole who fucks everything up...
unidentified
Can't affect it.
joe rogan
Because there's so many cockeyed fighter decisions.
The way you look at it, you go, how the fuck...
You know how many times me and DC have looked at each other and go, what the fuck was that one card?
brian simpson
You're like, is Michael Bisping judging?
joe rogan
He's got one good eye.
He would get it right.
It's like you see a guy get...
Three, four fights wrong in a night, and you hear his name again.
You go, what the fuck, man?
brendan schaub
Yeah, it's wild.
joe rogan
But that guy would, first of all, they should be cut out.
As soon as they have one of those, get rid of him.
Throw him away.
brendan schaub
At least suspended.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Get rid of him.
If you ever do that, you don't know what you're doing.
You shouldn't be doing it.
brendan schaub
But back to the eye pokes, I think, sure, change the gloves.
Hopefully that happens.
But if not, I think an eye poke or a serious groin strike is an automatic point.
joe rogan
One point.
brendan schaub
It would stop it.
Because John's going to be like, I can't lose a fucking point.
So you're not going to see him be reaching out like this.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Exactly.
brendan schaub
Because now it's just a warning.
joe rogan
One point nut shot.
brendan schaub
Sometimes they'll get three warnings.
joe rogan
One point eye poke, one point nut shot, automatically.
Fence grab.
Fence grab.
unidentified
One point.
brendan schaub
Yes, sir.
joe rogan
You grab a fence...
Stop a takedown, one point, automatic.
brendan schaub
That's easy to do.
joe rogan
Tomorrow?
Tomorrow.
brendan schaub
I don't get it.
joe rogan
So, cut that out.
Cut weight cutting out.
You fix 90% of the problems of the sport.
brian simpson
But doesn't the Nevada Athletic Commission have to agree to the rules?
joe rogan
Yeah, everybody has to agree to the rules, but the rules are good.
The rules make sense.
If I could argue this in front of these people, I really think I could make a good point.
brian simpson
But those people, aren't they the same people that like, haven't there been a few fights that should have been overturned and they never did?
joe rogan
Yeah, they never overturned fights.
brian simpson
I don't think you can convince those people with logic.
bryan callen
Well, a lot of them aren't fighters, right?
A lot of the people that make those decisions are not actual fighters.
joe rogan
None of them, sir.
A lot of the judges have not even stepped on the mat.
bryan callen
There you go.
joe rogan
They've never taken a jiu-jitsu class.
brendan schaub
They've never even stepped on a treadmill.
joe rogan
And if you don't know jiu-jitsu, if you don't know how close something is, you don't know.
You really don't know.
Sometimes a triangle looks good, but it's bullshit.
brendan schaub
Sloppy.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's no chance.
And if someone just sees an instep over an ankle, they go, oh my god, he's got the triangle.
He doesn't have a fucking triangle.
There's so many times where something looks good, but if you have a skilled eye, you don't know what the fuck is going on.
That's so surprising.
bryan callen
This guy's a beast, man.
joe rogan
You guys have a very difficult journey around there, Brian.
You might have to duck.
You gotta crawl.
bryan callen
This is a motherfucker, man.
brendan schaub
You're supposed to fight two weeks from now at the Apex.
bryan callen
Who was he going to fight?
brendan schaub
It was a three-round fight.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
brendan schaub
Okay, thanks.
It was a three-round fight.
So now your main event on a...
This is ABC, dawg.
And your main event against Robert Whittaker.
That's five rounds.
joe rogan
And Robert Whittaker is fired up.
One thing about Robert, when he loses a fight, he comes back fucking guns blazing every time.
Lost the Izzy fight, came back in the rematch, almost won.
Very close fight in the second fight.
Robert Whittaker's a bad man.
brendan schaub
And now he's coming off that Polo Costa win.
He looked great.
joe rogan
God, I want to see him in Hamzat, though.
I wanted Hamzat in him so bad.
bryan callen
Me too.
joe rogan
That is the fight.
That is the fight, man.
Real test for Hamzat, man.
brendan schaub
Yes.
We know what Whittaker does.
Hamzat needs it more than Whittaker.
bryan callen
That's what I'm saying.
You'd see.
If Hamzat beat him that way, he'd be like, okay.
brendan schaub
But here's what's interesting.
If Whitaker wins this fight, you're not going to give him a title shot off this.
joe rogan
Yeah, you would.
Yeah, I would.
brendan schaub
For helping him out?
joe rogan
Yeah, I would.
unidentified
That.
joe rogan
Also, he's so good, man.
He's so good.
brendan schaub
But you got Strickland right there.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What about him and Strickland?
Him and Strickland would be wild.
Bro, Strickland shuts down everybody.
The way he shut down Paulo Costa, his fucking style is so unique.
brendan schaub
I don't get the complaint with that.
They're like, oh, Strickland's a boring fighter.
I'm like, have you never watched him fight?
I don't find it boring.
He's a tidal wave.
His defense is so elite.
I don't get it.
joe rogan
Constantly moving forward.
It's just his casuals.
I think Strickland's one of the most exciting fighters in the sport.
brendan schaub
I love watching him fight.
bryan callen
I couldn't believe that at one point Costa didn't at least just...
Double leg or just grab him around.
joe rogan
He can't take that dude down.
He's been getting pieced up for fucking three rounds, man.
The problem is Strickland's just different.
brendan schaub
You don't know anybody like him.
We've gone over this.
Paulo Costa's number one thing is cardio.
There's nothing more exhausting than shooting shots.
And you're not going to do it against Strickland at that level.
And it's not in his background.
It doesn't matter.
joe rogan
And Paulo afterwards said, you know what?
I gotta stop trying to play the point game.
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
I just gotta try to take hands off.
unidentified
That's when he's best.
joe rogan
Not worry about my card.
bryan callen
That's what he did against Joel Romero.
joe rogan
He was in his quill.
bryan callen
Use your strength.
joe rogan
Izzy mindfucked him, man.
Especially when he humped him.
After he knocked him out and he humped him.
brendan schaub
So disrespectful.
joe rogan
So disrespectful.
bryan callen
He's never been the same.
joe rogan
Izzy in his prime, man.
brendan schaub
Oh, bro.
joe rogan
And just pieced him up standing up, man.
brendan schaub
Dude, I think Izzy coming back and everyone's doubting him, all these haters against Drikus, dude, that's a dangerous fucking Izzy, man.
joe rogan
It's dangerous, for sure.
And Drikus is fucking dangerous, too.
Hell yeah.
I think he's the biggest guy at 85 other than Pejedo when Pejedo was here.
He's so big.
When I stand next to him, I'm always like, how?
How are you winning?
He's a heavyweight.
He's so big, man.
He's like 6'2".
He's wide as a fucking house.
bryan callen
How do they do it?
joe rogan
I don't know, man.
I don't know how Palacosta sucks down to 85. You've got to talk to Dan Garner, some of these guys that have it down to a science.
brendan schaub
They have a real science to it now.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, they get it down to your body weight, your calories, how much water you're taking in, how much sodium.
brendan schaub
I'll tell you what I'd do if I was at the UFC with Hamzat.
We're not doing this whole Robert Whittaker and contenders.
You haven't beat anybody.
I think they give Bo Nickel a pretty good test next, and then it's Hamzat-Bo Nickel.
joe rogan
I love it.
brendan schaub
You guys figure it out.
joe rogan
I love it.
So who do you give Bo Nichols a test?
Like, who's a good test at 85?
brendan schaub
Bo Nichols would get Hadolfo.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right!
Is that in Boston Square Garden or is that July?
brendan schaub
When is that, Jamie?
I thought it was later.
joe rogan
When is that?
brendan schaub
But that's a good test for Bo.
joe rogan
That's a very good fight.
brendan schaub
If he fucking mops the floor with him.
Alright, Hamzat, are you good?
Can we do this?
joe rogan
Hadolfo Rivera is fucking dangerous.
brendan schaub
Super dangerous.
joe rogan
Dangerous.
He's also enormous for 85. World champion.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu world champion.
bryan callen
Yeah, but your jiu-jitsu may not be good here with Bo Nick.
joe rogan
Oh, but he's been submitting everybody, dude.
It's a test.
It's a real test.
brendan schaub
It's the right test.
joe rogan
And Hadolfo looks like a fucking superhero.
brendan schaub
His striking's coming together.
He looks like a fucking savage.
joe rogan
He's so big, dude.
He's so jacked.
There it is.
November 9th.
Oh, it is Madison Square Garden.
unidentified
Sign me up.
joe rogan
Let's go.
brendan schaub
Now, Bo mops the floor with him or off to the races?
joe rogan
Yeah, Bo mops the floor with him, then Hamzat.
That's the fight next.
That's what I would do.
brendan schaub
If I'm the UFC, I'm like, hey bud, nope, we tried it.
joe rogan
Abu Dhabi.
Let's fucking go.
brendan schaub
Or do it in America.
joe rogan
No, we can't get him over here.
brendan schaub
Goddamn, I forgot.
Bo's not going out there.
joe rogan
He's not?
unidentified
Why?
brendan schaub
No, they asked Bo to Saudi Arabia.
He's like, I'm kind of glad I missed the call.
I don't want to go all the way the fuck out there.
joe rogan
He would do it, though, if they asked him to do it.
brendan schaub
I mean, he did the international circuit, so he's not foreign to it.
joe rogan
Yeah, he would do it.
He would do it.
I just think that that's an intriguing fight.
The Rodolfo Rivera fight's an intriguing fight, and then the Hamzat fight is a captivating fight.
But Hamzat, who knows how much money Hamzat has now, with all the relationships that he has and people throwing money at him.
He might be wealthy enough to fucking not do it anymore.
Who knows?
brendan schaub
That'd be such a shame.
joe rogan
Would be a shame.
But I mean, what kills a fighter more than money?
brendan schaub
Nothing.
joe rogan
Nothing.
bryan callen
Comfort.
brendan schaub
And again, I'll get annihilated for this.
joe rogan
What do you got there?
What you got?
brian simpson
Is that wine?
The Stellum bourbon.
joe rogan
Oh, look at you switching.
brian simpson
Some shit I've never tried.
There's a bunch of shit over there.
joe rogan
Yeah, we got a lot of shit.
If you want to be an alcoholic, this is the place to do it.
brendan schaub
But isn't that a fine line if you're Dana or if you're the UFC? It's like, yeah, we do got to pay them, but if we pay them too much, then they'd lose their drive.
It's a fine line.
joe rogan
Yeah, but kind of.
Is that real?
I mean, I feel like it's an accumulation over time and then fame, and then they have so much money that they...
Like with Connors, he's flying around in private jets, got a Lamborghini.
He just said he was going to buy a...
I'm buying a big Gordy for my fucking birthday.
brendan schaub
But that's my point, John.
He's the richest guy ever.
brian simpson
I'll tell you what he can do without changing the pay too much, is make sure they take a piece of each check and set aside for retirement.
joe rogan
Nah, fuck all that.
Save all that.
These guys could die in the ring.
What about that Bugatti Tourbillon?
Have you seen that Bugatti Tourbillon?
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
It's insane.
Was it a V16? It's insane.
It's a V16. It's a hybrid.
It has 1,800 horsepower.
That's it.
1,800 horsepower?
The fucking steering wheel has the gauges on it.
brendan schaub
The gauges are wild.
joe rogan
And the steering wheel moves around the gauges.
It's the most beautiful interior I've ever seen in a car.
brendan schaub
It's 4 mil?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's four mil.
There's 250 of them.
They've sold them all.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
You can't buy one.
brendan schaub
Oh, no.
It's impossible.
joe rogan
You can't get one.
It's like a watch.
bryan callen
It's like a Swiss watch.
brendan schaub
Oh, but here's the bummer about Bugatti.
The people that buy them, they don't drive them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
So they just sit there.
bryan callen
So that really gets you going, huh?
joe rogan
Well, not really.
I wouldn't buy one, honestly.
brendan schaub
It doesn't get me going.
joe rogan
I think it's dope.
It doesn't get me going.
brendan schaub
It's not for me.
joe rogan
I like Porsches.
I like Mustangs.
I would buy a new...
Yeah, I'd drive it, but I wouldn't really.
brendan schaub
Do you know the maintenance on those?
Just to change the tires every year is $25,000 a tire.
And it's not a place here.
You have to ship it back to there.
joe rogan
Ridiculous.
brendan schaub
The maintenance, it's over six figures a year to maintenance it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure.
It's like a private check.
brian simpson
And it's one of those where you're not allowed to sell it within the first five years or something.
brendan schaub
You can, but then if you drive it, it loses its value.
They're a nightmare.
joe rogan
What is it?
So tourbillons are a movement in watches that is like the most precise movement in watches.
So they have watches that are tourbillon watches that are $400,000, $500,000 for a watch just because of the movement.
And you see the tourbillon inside the watch.
Like, Jamie, pull up like a Grand Seiko tourbillon watch because Grand Seiko has an insane tourbillon watch that they just released.
Yeah, Richard Mille, $2,500,000 for a tourbillon.
Richard Mille watches are crazy expensive.
What?
But this Grand Seiko tourbillon is fucking beautiful, man.
Look at the machinery, the gears and stuff going on inside that watch.
brendan schaub
Handmade, obviously.
People like watches, that's a real watch.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
I know it's not a Rolex, but Grand Seiko watches are fucking wild.
joe rogan
I think that one is $300,000.
brian simpson
Jesus.
joe rogan
How much does that bitch cost?
What's the Grand Seiko?
How much does a Grand Seiko Tourbillon cost?
brendan schaub
Do you have one, Joe?
joe rogan
No.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
No, I'm not interested in those things.
I'm interested in looking at them, but I don't like rich guy fancy things.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I like Mustangs and shit.
You like things that have utility, right?
Yeah, I like things that are fun to use.
brendan schaub
Oh, bro, you know what you need to do?
brian simpson
I'll take the rich guy food, though.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, Rich Guy Foods.
I'm all over Rich Guy Foods.
brendan schaub
Joe, you know what you should get?
bryan callen
$350,000.
joe rogan
$350,000.
Constant Forest Tourbillon.
bryan callen
Good.
brendan schaub
Joe, you know what you need to get for us?
Buy Forest, you get it and then send me pictures.
What?
unidentified
It's the Mustang GTD. Oh, the GTD? I'm down with that.
brendan schaub
There's only 300 of them.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
brendan schaub
I applied for it.
joe rogan
Come on, Ford.
Hook me up.
brendan schaub
They're going to do it.
joe rogan
I just got a Hennessey Raptor R. That's wild.
Yeah, it's being built right now.
brendan schaub
Do you still have the...
GTD? I'm getting rid of that.
joe rogan
I'm getting rid of the TRX. What's the GTD? This is the Mustang's version of a GT3 RS. It's at Nuremberg right now.
It's fucking insane.
800 horsepower, Fucking preposterously wide.
Crazy grip.
Street legal, but just barely.
brendan schaub
Do you see the shocks in the back?
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
No back seat.
And so there's an open glass thing.
We can see the suspension moving.
Really?
Insane.
brendan schaub
It might be the greatest American car that's come out in a long fucking time.
joe rogan
Near 50-50 weight balance.
It's got a rear transaxle.
It's fucking insane.
And it looks incredible.
brendan schaub
It's the best Mustang of all time.
bryan callen
It's got a dry stock oil system.
joe rogan
It looks incredible.
brendan schaub
And all the carbon fiber?
Yeah, because you know Farley, the Hev Mustang, he went in and was like, I don't get it.
joe rogan
Oh, guys, the fight is happening.
Jesus Christ.
brendan schaub
Oh, fuck.
bryan callen
Oh, man, this is exciting.
joe rogan
We haven't even been paying attention.
It's 443N. Boy, we're ridiculous.
brendan schaub
Let's save the car talk for after this.
brian simpson
No, no, it just started.
bryan callen
Oh.
joe rogan
Very interesting fight.
Whitaker is so good at blitzing.
He's so good.
He's so light on his feet.
Very interesting style.
Different than anybody else.
Always on his toes.
brendan schaub
You know he's supposed to be on the Australian wrestling team too, but the UFC nixed it.
joe rogan
Really?
brendan schaub
Yep.
That's how good he was at wrestling.
unidentified
I think he has five kids or six.
brendan schaub
He has a squad.
He has a fucking squad.
joe rogan
Good low kick.
bryan callen
Yeah, he can...
This guy's really good at just...
You just miss him, man.
Really good head movement.
joe rogan
We gotta wonder what kind of condition he has.
Two weeks before, he takes it late, like last minute.
Like, where is he at in his training?
Was he peaking?
You know, and he's preparing for three rounds, not preparing for five, and he's facing...
Who is he supposed to be facing?
You find out, Jamie, who Al Skaroff was supposed to be fighting?
brendan schaub
I think Whitaker either wins by decision or beats him in the fourth.
joe rogan
Whitaker just jabbed him.
Very interesting fight.
bryan callen
I imagine the wrestling edge goes to Alyssa Croft.
brendan schaub
MMA wrestling different, though.
bryan callen
Yeah.
brendan schaub
Robert Whitaker's a motherfucker to get down.
His hips are wild, dude.
And then you gotta get in there.
Good luck.
bryan callen
Good luck.
joe rogan
There's a combat world champion, combat samba.
Oh, he heard him.
He heard him.
He heard him real bad.
He heard him real bad.
unidentified
Oh!
brendan schaub
I love his kicks.
When he knocks out the kicks.
joe rogan
Oh, that's it.
That's it.
It's over.
bryan callen
Holy shit.
joe rogan
It's over.
That's it.
Bobby Knuckles.
bryan callen
Oh, my God.
brian simpson
First round.
brendan schaub
You give him a title shot, right?
brian simpson
Yeah.
bryan callen
Oh, my God.
brian simpson
That was over with the shimmy.
He had him out there like...
bryan callen
Oh, no.
brendan schaub
When you see him follow up with a kick, that bitch is over.
joe rogan
Bobby Knuckles.
brendan schaub
Fuck yeah, Bobby Knuckles.
joe rogan
Let's go, Robert Whittaker.
brendan schaub
That sounded crowd is so sad right now.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
bryan callen
Fuck yeah, Bobby Knuckles.
brendan schaub
Look at him.
Dude, he's a savage.
Knock this fucking kid out, who's no punk.
And he should beat Paulo Costa.
joe rogan
And did it in the first round.
brendan schaub
Wiped the floor with him.
bryan callen
That's the first time that guy's been knocked out like that.
unidentified
First time he's fought a guy like Robert Whittaker.
brendan schaub
You're ranked what?
Oh, I'm not ranked.
Cool.
Come fight the number three guy.
bryan callen
God, that's what you realize.
joe rogan
So he was supposed to be fighting Tricoli.
Interesting.
Interesting.
And Tricoli just lost to Shara Bullet.
Interesting.
bryan callen
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Big step up from Tricoli to Robert.
Look at that right hand.
Look at that shot!
It's the blitz.
That Bobby Knuckles blitz.
brian simpson
So it was Whittaker that came in last minute?
joe rogan
No, Whittaker was supposed to be fighting Hamza.
unidentified
Look at that uppercut.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that uppercut.
My goodness.
brendan schaub
There's just levels to the game.
joe rogan
Yeah, and he's the top of the top.
brendan schaub
And see, this is why it's tough.
If you're that kid's manager and like, hey man, we got a call, you're fighting Bobby Knuckles, you're going, oh my god, what an opportunity.
joe rogan
I sprained my ankle.
brendan schaub
Yeah.
I broke my pinky toe.
joe rogan
I have food poisoning.
unidentified
Food poisoning.
bryan callen
This is where you see how good Whitaker is.
unidentified
Fuck!
bryan callen
Or you see how good the UFC is when you're at the higher echelon, because this guy's gone through everybody.
joe rogan
Look at the uppercut.
Dank.
brian simpson
Damn.
brendan schaub
Well, if you need to see this to see how good Bobby Knuckles is, you're a moron.
joe rogan
He's a bad man.
brendan schaub
He's been doing it for a hot second.
bryan callen
Wars, too, with Yoel Romero.
Those fights were crazy.
joe rogan
I mean, Yoel's gone.
Yoel's over in Bellator now.
46 years old.
Bobby Knuckles still torching people.
bryan callen
Oh, my God.
brendan schaub
There's just levels to it.
joe rogan
I say he gets the winner of Izzy.
brendan schaub
Then what do you do with Strickland?
Because he's ranked number one.
joe rogan
It's a good question.
brian simpson
I want to say the Strickland-Izzy rematch.
joe rogan
I wouldn't be upset with Strickland versus him.
I wouldn't be upset with that.
brendan schaub
Strickland-Whitaker main event for pay-per-view?
joe rogan
Right, and you can't hit Strickland like that.
He's not there.
He's standing up like this.
He's moving.
He gets hit less than anybody.
brian simpson
He's so hard to hit.
I'm surprised that's not who Izzy wants.
brendan schaub
Who?
brian simpson
Strickland.
joe rogan
Because Strickland beat him?
Yeah, but him and Drickus do pussy.
We're talking about so much shit, and Drickus has the title.
So Izzy gets the title, then he calls out Strickland.
Strickland and him rematch.
brendan schaub
You know what the UFC's gonna do?
I would be willing to bet they do Whitaker-Strickland, and the winner of that's guaranteed a title shot.
That's what they're gonna do.
Because think about it.
Whitaker's healthy.
I don't think he got touched.
Strickland's healthy.
They're sitting there.
And that Izzy fight is winning?
bryan callen
See, it's hard to see the difference between how good they are.
When you watch that Osmurov, you watch his fights, then you watch...
joe rogan
Alaskarov.
bryan callen
Alaskarov.
It's hard to see the difference sometimes.
So August 7th to August?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's close.
That's real close.
That's only a month or so away.
brian simpson
Wow.
brendan schaub
Two months.
joe rogan
Yeah, a little bit.
Yeah, so two months away, that fight happens.
brendan schaub
You're getting Strickland Whitaker.
brian simpson
I know, but you gotta go to Australia.
brendan schaub
They're both from there.
Well, one's New Zealand, one's South Africa.
brian simpson
They definitely give a fuck.
unidentified
That's right.
brendan schaub
Neither one's from Australia.
unidentified
Yeah.
Same.
brendan schaub
Hey.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Same area.
brian simpson
Over there is it.
joe rogan
It's not America.
It might as well be.
brendan schaub
Same area.
joe rogan
Yeah, whatever.
Africa, Australia, New Zealand.
bryan callen
Same shit.
They're from over there.
brendan schaub
Same shit.
It's all lower.
joe rogan
Alex Garof.
bryan callen
Dude, that's it.
joe rogan
He's got to think about his future now.
brian simpson
Sharp just has a globe in his house where it says America and everything else is just not America.
joe rogan
Alex Garof fights two elite guys and gets starched by both of them.
brendan schaub
Just let you know where you're at.
Back to the drawing board.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
That's life.
joe rogan
In a big way.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Robert fucking Whittaker.
brendan schaub
Sometimes you gotta fight those guys to realize where you're at.
bryan callen
I guess so.
joe rogan
This shows you DC should have been a 185-er.
And you gotta remember, Robert Whittaker started his career at 170. 170, yes.
Yeah, and was just killing himself.
brendan schaub
Wonderboy knocked him out.
brian simpson
Whittaker's no joke.
bryan callen
Man, what a career he's had.
brendan schaub
Such a good guy, too.
brian simpson
Seven first-round finishes?
What's the record?
Isn't that the record?
brendan schaub
Not even close.
brian simpson
Seven first-round?
brendan schaub
I don't think so.
Oh, you're saying first-round finishes?
I don't know what that is.
brian simpson
It's probably like 13 or something.
brendan schaub
That's pretty high, though.
Seven is a lot, especially middleweight.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's probably up there.
brendan schaub
Robert's a tough fight for Strickland.
joe rogan
He's a tough fight for everybody.
brendan schaub
That's a great fight.
joe rogan
But Strickland's a tough fight for everybody.
Everybody.
brendan schaub
At that level, where those boys are at those top four, good fucking luck.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a deep, deep division right now at the very top.
unidentified
It's great.
joe rogan
It's great.
brendan schaub
Nothing's better.
unidentified
It's ten.
joe rogan
Who has 10?
brian simpson
Jim Fisher.
Jim Miller.
joe rogan
Oh, Jim Miller, yeah.
Fuck it.
Dude, look at that shot.
What's that?
Frank Muir's got 11. Frank Muir's got 11 first-round finishes?
unidentified
Wow.
brendan schaub
That makes sense.
unidentified
Heavyweight.
brian simpson
Yeah, amazing.
This doesn't make any sense.
joe rogan
Oh, look at that.
bryan callen
Dude.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
Damn.
Totally unique style.
brendan schaub
Look at that fucking uppercut.
bryan callen
Is it just his ability to see openings just faster?
unidentified
What is it?
joe rogan
He's elite, man.
He's a world champion.
brendan schaub
He's a legit world champion.
unidentified
This doesn't make sense.
brian simpson
It says the record is 10 for Jim Miller, but then it says the second most is 23. Damn.
brendan schaub
What?
brian simpson
It doesn't make any sense.
jamie vernon
What are you looking at?
joe rogan
23 first round stoppages?
brian simpson
The record for first round finishes in the UFC is held by Jim Miller with 10 first round finishes.
Here are some other interesting facts about first round finishes.
bryan callen
What a great feeling.
joe rogan
Who has 23?
brian simpson
Andre Arlovski has the second most first round finishes with 23. Arlovski?
bryan callen
I never would have called that.
brian simpson
And Donald Cerrone has the third most first round finishes with 23. I think it's your Android.
This is just AI. This is the AI shit.
joe rogan
That doesn't make any sense.
unidentified
Let's chat GPT. Yeah, let me ask.
joe rogan
Who has the first round finish record for the UFC? Five UFC fighters, first round finishes.
brian simpson
Oh, Charles Oliveira?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, that would be there.
brian simpson
No, no, that's the record for finishes.
joe rogan
Five fighters with the most first round finishes.
jamie vernon
That's the article I clicked on, and it says Frank Mir's got 11. But I don't mean...
brendan schaub
11 would be the record.
brian simpson
Frank Miller?
brendan schaub
Frank Mir.
jamie vernon
Right here, it says UFC Fight Night 71. Frank Mir sets the record for first round finishes.
joe rogan
So, Donald Cerrone is number five with eight.
What else we got?
Um...
Amanda Nunez.
She's got nine.
brendan schaub
Damn.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
They're talking about her and her coming back.
brendan schaub
To fight Kayla.
Kayla.
That's a fucking fight.
joe rogan
Ooh, I like that.
Yeah, I like that.
brendan schaub
Kayla looked great.
joe rogan
She looked real good.
She's big.
Getting down to that 135. Arlovsky has nine first-round finishes.
So he's number three.
brendan schaub
And one terrible split decision.
joe rogan
Number two, Jim Miller.
Ten.
And number one...
Frank Mir.
Eleven.
All time.
brendan schaub
Makes sense.
Heavyweight.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Also, Frank Muir in his day was a fucking murderer.
brendan schaub
Savage.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
He broke two different world champions' arms.
bryan callen
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Snapped.
bryan callen
Noguera?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Tim Sylvia and Noguera.
unidentified
Horrible.
joe rogan
Snapping bones.
Ugh.
Both of them, when I called it, I went like...
bryan callen
He's always got seven weapons on him at all times.
brendan schaub
And Noguera was like fucking...
It was like Talladega Nights.
He was like, go ahead and break it.
joe rogan
Why does he only have seven?
brendan schaub
Wait, what did he say?
joe rogan
He says he always has seven weapons on them at all times.
bryan callen
For real, though.
joe rogan
Oh, oh.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
bryan callen
No, I mean, for real, like, two guns.
joe rogan
Guns, knives.
bryan callen
Gun holster, knives.
I mean, unbelievable.
joe rogan
You want to talk about the wrong guy to fuck with.
bryan callen
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
And if it's not a knife, you prefer the knife.
joe rogan
Correct.
brendan schaub
With him, it's a nightmare.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
Correct.
brendan schaub
You know what's always interesting to me is when guys are, you know, when talking about, you know, Armageddon, like, you know, the day's coming, but they don't run.
Their cardio's not very good.
bryan callen
Yeah.
He's got bad knees, actually.
brendan schaub
That's why I run.
I run all the time now.
If shit pops off, you'll be able to run.
bryan callen
Well, somebody said that.
No one thinks about that.
brendan schaub
I was hanging out with this truck guy, and he has a whole bunker for the Armageddon doomsday, and he's this big guy.
joe rogan
How are you going to get away?
brendan schaub
What are you going to do, bro?
He's like, and then we get in the mountains.
I'm like, how?
Have you ever jogged up there, pal?
joe rogan
Can you even walk through the mountains?
brendan schaub
You ever tried carrying 80 pounds up the mountains?
joe rogan
You're not going to get into those mountains.
brendan schaub
No, but I'm going to get to the mountains.
I'm going to take your gear and run up.
I'll meet you up there.
joe rogan
How much are you running?
brendan schaub
Three miles a day, usually.
joe rogan
When did you start doing this?
brendan schaub
About four months ago.
I started with three miles, then I went to two, then I did a mile as fast as I can.
joe rogan
What made you want to start running?
bryan callen
He's always running.
brendan schaub
Just get in shape.
joe rogan
Your knees aren't fucked up from all those years of fighting?
brendan schaub
No, not at all.
unidentified
That's crazy.
brian simpson
Why didn't you do the 5K, the two bears 5K? I don't know.
brendan schaub
They invited me to.
I forgot.
You straight up forgot.
I didn't know until I saw a picture of Jelly Roll doing it.
brian simpson
I used to run three miles for breakfast.
I was struggling so hard.
No training.
joe rogan
Why didn't you train a little bit?
brian simpson
I don't know.
I don't know.
I just don't know.
brendan schaub
If you want to get mentally tough, run in and do it.
People do all this shit, just go outside and run, man.
It's fucking tough, dude.
Like that second mile, the third, you're like, fuck.
joe rogan
Running is hard.
brendan schaub
Runs tough, man.
It's the easiest.
It's cheap.
bryan callen
It does get you in shape.
brian simpson
But there's a minimum shape you got to be in for that to be the thing you're doing to stay in shape.
joe rogan
No, you just do a little bit of running.
brian simpson
But if you're morbidly obese and shit, you're going to fuck your hips up.
joe rogan
You just kind of shuffle.
You just shuffle a little bit.
bryan callen
You know what the worst thing?
brian simpson
Swimming.
brendan schaub
Start walking and then turn that into a jog and then turn it into a sprint.
bryan callen
The most painful thing is that aerodyne bike.
That to me is like, it puts me, I hate it so much.
joe rogan
It's hell.
bryan callen
I hate it.
brendan schaub
Nah, do Jacob's Ladder.
bryan callen
I'll do a minute.
That's awful, too.
joe rogan
That's awful, too.
brendan schaub
Versiclimer.
joe rogan
Versiclimer.
Fuck you.
brendan schaub
Versiclimer.
Fuck you, dude.
joe rogan
All those things are hell.
bryan callen
Both of those things are horrible.
brendan schaub
But even if you don't have access, go sprint, dog.
It will fuck you up, man.
You do sprints with 10-second rest, dude, it will get you in shape fast.
joe rogan
It's so hard to do.
bryan callen
You better be careful, though.
You can pop shit if you're not reading it.
joe rogan
That's what's really crazy.
Chael Sonnen said it best about fighting.
It is impossible to fight at full pace for five rounds.
You can't do it.
No one can do it.
You can't fight at full pace.
brendan schaub
Chael goes, I don't want to do anything for 25 minutes.
joe rogan
It's true.
If you're going to go at a fight like this against elite fighters, you've got to pick your times.
brendan schaub
You've got to know when.
joe rogan
Yuri and...
Alex Pajeda, too.
You know, he's a different dude, man.
unidentified
He's a different dude.
brendan schaub
You hear he?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's a different dude.
brendan schaub
This is why I have Alex high up on my pound-for-pound list, because part of the pound-for-pound is you've got to fight anyone, anywhere.
You're that bad motherfucker, and Alex is that dude.
How many times is he going to do it?
joe rogan
Well, he was trying to get a shot at Aspinall.
unidentified
I know.
brendan schaub
He was trying to fight Aspinall.
joe rogan
Did you see Aspinall talked about it?
He said he sat next to him at a press conference and he could tell he looked at me like he knew he could beat me.
brendan schaub
Alex is a different dude.
joe rogan
He's a different dude.
brendan schaub
Like my pound for pound, you gotta be that dude where the UFC calls your name, you do it.
And now Cowboy is that guy, they call you and you do it, but he wasn't doing it for titles.
Not like Alex is a fucking world champion.
He's like, yeah, whatever.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
You could call him tomorrow and ask him to fight for the heavyweight title.
brendan schaub
That's why I have him so high on my pound for pound.
Everyone's like, that's ridiculous.
Look at his level, strength of fucking schedule.
Look at who he's fought.
joe rogan
Gary and Michael Page.
That to me, that to me is the one that I look at and I go, whoa.
brendan schaub
That should be co-main event.
joe rogan
Joe Pfeiffer is going to come out guns blazing.
Because he burned himself out in that last fight.
He's going to come out against Marc Andre Barrio with just a little bit more understanding of pacing.
He got through that fight where Joe Pfeiffer is one of the most fucking terrifying guys on the feet.
He's so scary.
He's so fast.
He hits so fucking hard.
He beat Francis Ngannou's punch count.
He's a fucking 185 guy.
brendan schaub
So powerful.
joe rogan
Crazy power.
Just preposterous power on the feet.
He burnt himself out.
Well, you know, Jack Hermanson is seasoned.
He's a real veteran.
He knew what to do, good enough on the feet to kind of drag him into the third, fourth, and fifth rounds, wear him out, and then at the end of the fight, he was just the fresher fighter.
brendan schaub
But a fight like that, where he's at in his career, perfect.
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
He learned.
Because you don't want to learn that when you're fighting the top five cats.
Learn it now.
We'll forget about it.
Who gives a fuck?
joe rogan
But Joe Pfeiffer has everything to be a world champion.
brendan schaub
Everything.
I agree 100%.
joe rogan
Everything.
brendan schaub
He's that motherfucker.
joe rogan
He is.
He is.
And you know, those fights like that where you get kind of humbled, those are good for a guy like him.
brendan schaub
Best thing for your career.
joe rogan
Didn't get KO'd.
unidentified
Nope.
joe rogan
Didn't get beat up.
Just lost the fight.
brendan schaub
He learned a lesson.
joe rogan
And lost the fight at a fight where he was dominating in the beginning with terrifying shots.
But you can't take everybody out with big power.
Sometimes you've got to set things up.
You've got to pick your shots.
brendan schaub
Especially veterans.
They've been there before.
They don't panic.
joe rogan
Exactly.
And you've got to keep that power into the third, fourth, and fifth round.
So if you've emptied the gas tank in the first two rounds, trying to take a guy out, and he's still there, fuck.
brendan schaub
That was the best thing to happen to him.
joe rogan
Yeah, very good thing to happen to him.
brendan schaub
He probably didn't think that at the time, but he will.
joe rogan
Yeah.
brendan schaub
When he's champion, he'll be like, oh my god, thank god that happened.
unidentified
I agree.
joe rogan
I'm pumped for that.
Me too.
I'm pumped to see where he goes.
I mean, that division is fucking deep, man.
How about Pfeiffer versus fucking...
I mean, that would be a crazy fight.
Bo Nickel versus Pfeiffer?
brendan schaub
Take my fucking money.
joe rogan
Oh my goodness.
Take my money.
brendan schaub
To me, the best thing in the UFC is not when the guy gets there and he made the money and the fame.
The best is the come up.
If you watch Joe Pfeiffer coming up, watch Bo, you watch him go through it and you see him evolve.
It's the best thing in sports.
joe rogan
How many guys have we seen that are so elite?
We're like, I don't know, he might not make it.
brendan schaub
Because it's so hard to do.
When Conor's come up, it was such a special time.
And the hype was there.
He's calling it.
You're like, what the fuck?
I know.
I get goosebumps.
It was the best fucking time in sports.
There's nothing like it.
joe rogan
I think right now is the best time.
I really do.
I don't think there's ever been better fighters.
I think I've never been more excited about weight classes and never been more excited about matchups.
You know, there's so many good fights.
You know, Leon Edwards versus Bilal Muhammad is not getting the respect that it deserves for whatever fucking stupid reason.
People don't like Bilal Muhammad.
I don't get it at all.
I think he's awesome.
He's a great guy.
He's a really great guy.
And people don't want to see him fight.
It's just weird.
brendan schaub
Thank God the UFC didn't bend the knee to the fans complaining.
joe rogan
Those fans are ridiculous.
bryan callen
I got a prediction on this, and he disagrees with me.
I think because he's Palestinian, you're going to see the entire Arab world come out for this fight.
joe rogan
Oh, they definitely will.
I don't think that's controversial at all.
brendan schaub
No, no, hold on, hold on.
He said it's going to be the most watched fight ever, most downloaded pay-per-view bot ever because of the Palestinians.
That's what you first said.
joe rogan
Definitely most stolen.
brendan schaub
Most stolen for sure with young kid Palestinians.
joe rogan
Most pirated.
brendan schaub
But as far as that being, and you and I have a good amount of money on this, you said it was going to be the most watched pay-per-view.
joe rogan
Yo, you know another fight?
bryan callen
I think it'll be big.
brian simpson
It'll be big.
It won't be the most watched.
joe rogan
It won't be as big as Conor.
But look at this, Bobby Green and Patty Pimble, it's going to be crazy.
That's a real test for Patty.
bryan callen
Yeah, it is.
joe rogan
Bobby Green is a bad motherfucker, dude.
brian simpson
I think he's going to mop the flow of Patty Pimble.
joe rogan
He might fuck him up.
I mean, his stand-up is elite, and he's weird.
Like, hands down.
unidentified
He's awkward.
joe rogan
Real awkward.
Jabs come at you from nowhere.
bryan callen
He does this stuff.
He goes, nah, he didn't hit me there.
joe rogan
Yeah, he talks shit to you.
brendan schaub
Paddy's a bad motherfucker, though, man.
joe rogan
Paddy's a bad motherfucker.
brendan schaub
Special kid, too.
Have you had him in here?
joe rogan
Good grappling.
unidentified
No, no.
brendan schaub
He's one of those guys, when you get around him, you go, oh, I get it.
He just has that it factor.
unidentified
Charisma.
brendan schaub
Bro, he just has the it.
And that's why he gets all the sponsors.
He's probably more famous than he is skill level right now, but he'll get there.
But when you're around him, you're like, oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Scroll backwards again.
Back where you were.
This is another one.
Arnold Allen and Higa Chikadze.
unidentified
That's a fight.
joe rogan
That's a fucking great fight.
brian simpson
I'm a scouser.
We don't get knocked out.
unidentified
Bobby Green's a bad man.
joe rogan
That's a real test for Paddy.
Especially looking at the Jared Gordon fight.
But that was a good fight for him to get through.
Like, realize, okay, I gotta tighten things up.
He tightened things up in his last fight, and now he's got Bobby Green.
brendan schaub
See, I like the bow nickel.
I'm so glad that happened.
I like that.
Especially if I'm investing in a guy, I'm like, thank God that happened.
joe rogan
Right.
Cody Brundage, get a little difficulty in there.
brian simpson
Has it been a Japanese UFC champ?
Or even ranked?
brendan schaub
Champ?
No.
Ranked, yes.
joe rogan
Tetsuro Taira is elite.
There's a few guys that are coming up that are really good.
brian simpson
I'm shocked that, because, you know, Prague came from over there.
I'm shocked that.
brendan schaub
They have some guys in Ryze in one championship.
They have some studs.
joe rogan
Bro, China's got some fucking killers coming up.
Yan Xiaonan versus fucking...
Zhang Weili was one of the best fights, but everybody forgot about it.
Yeah, I hated it.
Because Yuri Prochaska and Alex Pajada fought, and everybody forgot about it.
Was it Yuri and Alex on that card, or was it Jamal?
brendan schaub
It was...
300. It was Jamal.
joe rogan
Jamal, that's right.
brendan schaub
And then remember...
But prior to that was Max and Justin Gaethje and then the girl fight.
joe rogan
So you just were like, what?
brendan schaub
So Max does that.
We were doing a fight companion in Calabasas.
I didn't see the fight.
I don't know what happened.
joe rogan
Because Max's fight was so crazy.
brendan schaub
I didn't give a fuck.
No, I was running around and all crazy.
And I was like, oh, main event!
unidentified
You know?
joe rogan
Yeah, I know, right?
But meanwhile, it was an insane fight.
Yan Shanan got choked to sleep at the end of the second round.
brendan schaub
That's right!
joe rogan
She was out!
Yeah, I think it was the first.
She got choked unconscious, and then the bell rang, and she's like, out cold, and it's like, where do I go?
Go to my corner?
brendan schaub
That should be a win.
But for the males right now, I agree with you, it's the best time ever.
For the females, it's not.
joe rogan
That's true.
brendan schaub
Female fighting is suffering right now.
They need that star.
brian simpson
Yeah, they need that big star.
Because Amanda left at the top of the Mm-hmm.
Food chain.
joe rogan
Yep.
bryan callen
Joe, who is this guy, Turkey El Sheikh?
He is who?
He's financing the whole thing?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
I mean, we'd turn up the volume so we could hear it.
bryan callen
You always see him all the time.
joe rogan
He's got that cheddar.
brian simpson
He looks like he's in disguise.
Like, that's not how he really drips.
joe rogan
That dude is putting together some wild ass fights, I'll tell you that.
brendan schaub
I'll take it.
joe rogan
I'm so glad those guys are doing that, that they have the kind of money to throw wild fights around.
brendan schaub
They're wild boys.
joe rogan
They're going to have some wild cars over there.
brendan schaub
That's who drives Bugattis.
You know, like Americans get them out there.
They don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
Everyone that's ever been built is probably over there.
brian simpson
I wish it was acceptable for me to dress like that.
It looks so comfortable.
joe rogan
You can do it when you go over there.
You should come over there with me for a fight.
brian simpson
I will.
joe rogan
And we'll all dress like that.
bryan callen
That's how you deal with that 125 degree heat.
joe rogan
Are you naked under there?
bryan callen
Did you see in Mecca, the Hajj, where they're all in Mecca?
joe rogan
A bunch of people died.
bryan callen
1,700 people died of heat exhaustion.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
Because it's 125 degrees.
brian simpson
I know.
But in the middle of praying, that's wild.
That would make you not believe.
brendan schaub
Yep.
bryan callen
Dude, I lived there.
unidentified
We all showed up to pray in 1700. Or make you believe, because God's like, I'm taking you.
bryan callen
Yep.
I lived there for three years.
You could fry an egg.
brendan schaub
You dressed like that, Brian?
bryan callen
No, but my father used to always wear a thobe like that.
joe rogan
Well, that's why they come to LA in the summer, because it's cool.
bryan callen
Correct.
brian simpson
You call it a thobe?
bryan callen
Yeah, a thobe.
joe rogan
The Saudi clears out for the wealthy, they leave in Yeah, they call it Saudi summers, and they come to Los Angeles.
They drive around with diplomatic plates.
They drive around like Ferraris and Lamborghinis with diplomatic plates.
brian simpson
Oh, you gotta get out of the way, right?
Because they don't get charged.
joe rogan
They don't get charged for shit.
Yeah, they were driving in Beverly Hills and fucking getting wrecks.
brendan schaub
Hey, how hot is Saudi Arabia in the summer?
What are we talking about?
bryan callen
125 degrees?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
It's harder to know.
brian simpson
No, it's like 100. The record's one...
brendan schaub
Man, I live in Woodland Hills.
It gets 110. Cry me a river.
joe rogan
The record's 125. In Mecca, this past week, 1,700 people died because the temperature climbed to 125. Tuesday, it said it reached 117. But either way, 117, 125, it's the same fucking thing.
brendan schaub
That's valid, dude.
joe rogan
It sucks.
And there are older people, by the way.
brian simpson
Once you get past 100 degrees, it don't matter.
bryan callen
Yeah, that's true.
brendan schaub
If it's humid or hot...
joe rogan
100 to 110 is the difference.
brian simpson
Austin had, last summer, they had a record like...
40 straight days.
joe rogan
You know what?
I shot archery outside every day for two hours in that heat.
I'd bring a 64-ounce hydro flask filled with electrolytes and water, and I just shot outside.
brian simpson
I was in the house with the AC pumping with my face in the refrigerator.
joe rogan
I came inside, and it was like I jumped in the pool.
My jeans were completely wet.
My t-shirt was completely wet.
brendan schaub
I like it when it's hot.
I like to work out when it's hot.
joe rogan
I go in the sauna every fucking day.
No, I've been to Abu Dhabi, though.
I've been to Dubai.
Okay.
Texas experiences hottest summer record in 2023. 80 days with 100-degree heat, 40 days with a temperature of 105 or higher, and received less than 1.5 inches of rain.
bryan callen
So it's humid here, though, and Saudi's really dry.
brian simpson
Right, it's humid here.
bryan callen
So you can deal with the dry heat way better than the heat.
brendan schaub
The humid's tough.
bryan callen
Because you lose water in that.
brian simpson
Yeah, because I went to Arizona recently.
In the middle of that summer, I went to Arizona, and it was like 103 degrees, and I was like, this doesn't feel hot at all.
brendan schaub
Like Houston 100?
unidentified
Yeah.
brendan schaub
It's right by the ocean?
Houston's rough.
joe rogan
Houston gets muggy.
unidentified
Houston's rough.
bryan callen
If you go to Saudi, by the way, and you just are respectful and say hi to people, they will treat you.
If you go there with the Arabs and you show that you like being there or you're just respectful of the culture, they'll take care of you beyond what you can imagine.
It'll be over the top.
Really?
Yeah.
It's part of their culture.
If you're their guest, You're protected.
joe rogan
Tell you what, Dana White loves it over there.
bryan callen
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
He loves Abu Dhabi.
They're the best.
He says the royal family are the nicest fucking people.
He says they're like super cool.
They're actually very progressive, he said.
brendan schaub
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
They're also a blast because they don't drink really.
joe rogan
By the way, listen to the podcast.
bryan callen
What's that?
joe rogan
Royal Family listens to the podcast.
Shout out to the Royal Family.
brendan schaub
Shout out to them.
bryan callen
They're awesome.
joe rogan
Which is wild.
bryan callen
You'd be amazed.
joe rogan
On the treadmill, listen to Joey Diaz.
brian simpson
I'm going to get me one of those.
What'd you call it again?
A throbe?
bryan callen
A throbe.
brian simpson
I'm going to get me a throbe.
I'm going to wear it on stage.
bryan callen
But you have to go there.
You have to go there.
And if you show interest in the culture and the history, I'm telling you, man, you'll have the best time of your life.
They'll treat you like gold.
joe rogan
What if you have a yarmulke on?
unidentified
Not good, right?
bryan callen
Well, having said that, people always forget that in the Muslim world, the place that the Jews found refuge was in the Muslim world.
The Christians killed the Jews, typically.
Traditionally.
joe rogan
What about Lebanon?
bryan callen
Well, Lebanon was a Phoenician port, so Lebanon was Christian and Muslim, and the Civil War broke out because they were that way.
But it was, Lebanon was always like, they were Phoenicians.
They were like, they were the port where everybody came.
It used to be the Paris of the Middle East.
You would ski, you could go to Faria and ski, then go down to Coral Beach in the same day, because the weather was unbelievable that way.
So, Lebanon was the Paris of the Middle East.
Still the best nightlife, I guarantee if you go there, it's the best nightlife on the planet.
The Lebanese are the best.
joe rogan
What do you do there?
bryan callen
Anything you want.
joe rogan
Smoke the hookah?
bryan callen
Anything you want.
And I'll put this on the record.
I would say the most beautiful women on the planet are probably centered right there.
joe rogan
Do they too, spit on that thing?
brendan schaub
Yeah, bro.
bryan callen
No, I'm not saying that.
brendan schaub
Do they go to that distance?
bryan callen
But you go to Saudi and you see those women, obviously they're going to be covered in public.
You go hang out and see that.
brendan schaub
I didn't take your ass to Colombia or Brazil, bro.
unidentified
Shut your mouth.
bryan callen
They're just as beautiful.
joe rogan
Settle down.
unidentified
Just as beautiful.
Settle down.
brendan schaub
Just as beautiful.
joe rogan
Boys, let's bring this bitch home.
Another fun podcast.
Another great fight companion.
Brian Simpson, thank you very much.
brendan schaub
Thank you, brother.
joe rogan
Thanks for coming in.
brian simpson
What happened to the Michael Venom Page fight?
joe rogan
Oh, no, that's weeks from now.
bryan callen
That's weeks from now.
brian simpson
Oh, so when you say the main event, I thought you meant...
joe rogan
No!
brendan schaub
Michael Venom Page, Ian and Gary fight next Saturday.
joe rogan
That's next Saturday.
bryan callen
Can't wait.
I'm going to that fight.
joe rogan
It's a week.
brian simpson
Are you?
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
I got your tickets.
bryan callen
I'm bringing my nephew.
Don't bail on me now.
brian simpson
I just ordered my thobe from Amazon.
joe rogan
Did you really?
brian simpson
Yeah.
joe rogan
You get a legit thobe from Amazon?
brendan schaub
It's from Amazon.
bryan callen
Did you?
Good man.
joe rogan
Is that real?
brian simpson
It's 30 bucks.
joe rogan
I got a furry outfit from Amazon.
brendan schaub
Like a legit one?
joe rogan
Yeah, Duncan and I dressed up like furries.
unidentified
Sick.
joe rogan
Maybe respect the furries, because it's fucking hard.
Hard to wear that big helmet.
brendan schaub
They have sex in those things.
joe rogan
I know they do.
We wore the hats for like, what, 30 seconds?
Five minutes?
At the most?
Five minutes at the most.
It was the quickest we bailed on our costumes.
brendan schaub
How much was that though, man?
brian simpson
30 bucks.
brendan schaub
That can't be good quality.
unidentified
No?
brendan schaub
You're getting some bed sheets, Doug.
bryan callen
Dude, it's just a sheet.
It's great.
It keeps you hydrated.
joe rogan
All right, that's us with the furry costumes.
bryan callen
Look at that.
brendan schaub
Isn't that your outfit?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's my outfit.
bryan callen
That's so weird.
joe rogan
I wore that shit for like five minutes and Dodger was a cat.
brendan schaub
You got it off Amazon?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bryan callen
That's fucking hilarious.
brendan schaub
I'd wear that for Halloween.
That's a legit-ass outfit.
brian simpson
It was fun.
brendan schaub
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
It's hard to wear, though, man.
And also, like, furries must have good neck strength.
brendan schaub
Oh, yeah, man.
joe rogan
He's got this big-ass helmet on all day long.
It's a lot of weight.
That bitch was like 10 pounds.
brendan schaub
Respect, man.
joe rogan
Sitting on your head.
Respect to the furries.
All right.
Anybody got anything to promote?
bryan callen
I'll be in that.
unidentified
Where are you going to be?
bryan callen
LOL Comedy Club San Antonio.
joe rogan
Great place.
bryan callen
July 12th, 13th, 14th.
Come see me.
joe rogan
Nice.
brendan schaub
And I'm giving away a truck.
Go to drivefastallgas.com.
Search July 8th.
It's like a Raptor on steroids.
unidentified
Ooh!
brendan schaub
And up with King Shocks.
You buy merch to win.
joe rogan
Okay.
brian simpson
And I'm going to be at Comedy Works in Denver July 11th, 12th, 13th.
And I'm doing Bottom of the Barrel for the first time outside the mothership on the 14th.
joe rogan
Okay.
brian simpson
And I'm doing the Wilbur Theater at the end of the year.
Tickets go on sale on Wednesday.
brendan schaub
Great spot.
joe rogan
Nice.
All right.
That's it.
Bye, everybody.
Yay.
We did it.
brendan schaub
Damn, Robert Whitaker did it.
joe rogan
What, Jamie?
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