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Joe Rogan Experience #2168 - Tyler Fischer
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Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day Oh, hey Joe Rogan What's going on?
tyler fischer
Is there a left or right here or does it matter?
joe rogan
No, it's all mono.
What's cracking, brother?
tyler fischer
Oh, yeah.
Let me just get a little confidence here.
I'm so small, this is like a large coffee to me.
joe rogan
They'll make you pee.
They'll make you pee.
That's one thing Nespresso's do.
tyler fischer
I'm peeing right now, dude.
I'm just going to do the Biden.
Just let it out.
joe rogan
Ari peed in that seat three or four times yesterday.
tyler fischer
Yesterday?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He pissed into Bud Light cans.
He's so disgusting.
tyler fischer
Ari Shafir?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Every time he's here.
tyler fischer
Oh, I didn't know he's here.
joe rogan
He pees into things.
tyler fischer
I'm trying to get him to move here.
joe rogan
He's not going to.
He's a New York rat.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
But he's here all the time.
I mean, he might as well live here.
He's here like four or five times a year.
tyler fischer
Yeah, it's good enough.
joe rogan
He should.
He should move here.
tyler fischer
He's so funny, man.
I love watching him at the Comedy Cellar.
Because he's one of the guys that just fucking goes for it.
joe rogan
Yeah, he definitely goes for it.
It's gotten him in a lot of trouble.
unidentified
Yeah.
tyler fischer
It all comes out in the wash, though, right?
joe rogan
Well, if you're talented.
Yeah.
And he's definitely talented.
He's just a wild boy.
tyler fischer
I watch the crowd when he's on.
Because I like to see the crowd just slowly kind of...
He's working through stuff.
He gets messy.
I like that.
They put me and him on at the late, late shows now.
joe rogan
In the cellar?
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
What is New York's scene like these days?
tyler fischer
Well, I'm here now.
We'll say that.
unidentified
With an American flag on it.
tyler fischer
This is what it does to you, man.
Dude, before I moved here, I was a 60-year-old Jamaican woman.
Look what Texas does to you.
joe rogan
It gets you in its bones.
It's just a fun thing to be.
It's fun to be a Texan.
tyler fischer
Someone the other day on the street said, you look like Kid Rock fuck Zach Galifianakis.
I was like, yeah, that works.
joe rogan
Yeah, that tracks.
How long have you been out here now?
tyler fischer
Oh, like two weeks.
joe rogan
Wow.
tyler fischer
It's like a dream.
This has been a weird, including this, it's all a weird dream.
joe rogan
How long have you been doing stand-up now?
tyler fischer
I mean, I got on stage when I was 17 or 18 in high school, started doing improv and stand-up on stage.
That's almost 20 years.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
tyler fischer
And then I went to college.
unidentified
High school?
tyler fischer
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So I was failing out of high school.
I needed like a B to pass.
And I was friends with the acting teacher.
We would drink together.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
In high school?
tyler fischer
Public school, brother.
Public school.
joe rogan
Wow.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
We would drink together and smoke and I thought if I take his class, he's got to give me an A or I can get him sent to jail probably for all this bad behavior.
And so I took this acting class and I got on stage and he pulls me aside.
Like day one, he goes, this is what you need to do with your life.
joe rogan
Wow.
tyler fischer
And I go, okay.
Okay.
Stop drinking.
Stop smoking.
I was like in a gang.
I was growing weed.
Yeah, I was a nightmare kid.
People think I'm just this nice little guy.
I was a fucking monster and getting on stage and I got all that energy out.
And it's what I've been doing every day since.
joe rogan
Wow.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's cool that someone recognized that because most of the time they don't.
tyler fischer
It takes one person.
It's insane.
joe rogan
It takes one person and, you know, that one person literally can change your life because you're in this part of your life where you're not, you don't know what the fuck you're gonna do.
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
And then someone gives you a direction and they say, hey, You're really good at this.
This is your thing.
Oh my god, I found my thing.
That day you go home, you're like, I found my thing.
tyler fischer
Yeah, he had us...
First class, we had to dance on stage.
unidentified
He was like...
joe rogan
This guy was wild.
tyler fischer
He goes, you're gonna fuck...
Oh, he was wild, dude.
He was a playwright.
He'd take the Metro-Northan from Connecticut, New Haven, to put on little plays.
And I just thought it was the sexiest thing.
It was like this guy was living in the 1920s or something.
joe rogan
Right, like a real artist.
tyler fischer
Yeah, yeah.
And he goes, we're gonna humiliate ourselves day one.
He goes, it's gonna be so bad, so everything you do after this is gonna be a breeze.
And I've still used that to this day with stand-up.
You gotta get messy.
So he said, we're gonna go do the silliest dances.
I went home, I was practicing in the bathroom, just sweating, turning around.
I've never performed.
And I'd get on stage, and it'd be like, sillier, weirder, weirder!
Until you just had a mental breakdown.
And then after that, doing a little Shakespeare was fine.
joe rogan
Oh, that's an interesting strategy.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
That makes sense.
It makes someone break you down and go, you're allowed to fuck up.
You're allowed to get messy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
And that's why I got a place here, because I went to your club, and I saw Brian Holtzman, and I go, wait a minute, you're allowed to do this?
Where you're allowed to say whatever you want?
joe rogan
Well, Brian Holtzman was like a hero of comedians in Los Angeles, but he didn't get good spots, unfortunately.
They put him on really late at the end of the show.
And it was a wild thing to watch.
You know, you're watching like 20, 30 people in the audience, this guy saying the most hilarious but yet horrific things.
And he just never got the respect that he deserves.
I've known Brian for, I guess, around 30 years now.
When we first started at the store, we were like young hotshots.
He was like this young, dark-haired, slick back, like really interesting guy.
Like really, like same style that he has now he had back then.
tyler fischer
I can't imagine him with any more energy than he has now though.
joe rogan
It was the same.
unidentified
As a young guy.
joe rogan
Oh, his energy has not waned at all, which is why he's so good.
You know, like, some people slow down.
It sucks.
It sucks to see.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, because they slow down, you're like, you don't want to say anything to them.
You know, like, hey, man, you got to pick it up.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whatever the fuck you used to be, you got to bring that back.
tyler fischer
Just turn it up a little bit.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're a little too casual up there.
I don't want to say lazy, but you're too tired.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You got to fire the fuck up.
Holtzman never lost that, that kind of, that fucking, you know, that fucking, when he gets crazy.
But he didn't have a show, like a real showcase.
He didn't have like a real, you know, like a real awesome spot.
Where he could perform in front of crowds that weren't tired and hadn't seen three hours of comedy.
So now we've got him headlining.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
And people come to see him.
They know who he is.
They get excited.
People have seen him multiple times.
tyler fischer
He's got a cult following here.
It's great.
joe rogan
He definitely does.
Yeah.
tyler fischer
So that was it.
I saw him once.
And then I went to the open mic or whatever.
I was in town doing the Vulcan, I think.
And then I go, I'm going to try to get an audition.
Adam wasn't here.
Flew back.
Got the audition.
Then...
Did a couple spots, then did a guest spot on Holtzman Show, and then I was in the car in New York.
I pull over.
I'm just looking at apartments in Texas.
I just call the guy.
I go, hey, can I move there?
I made him an offer.
I made him an offer that was like insane.
I'm renting.
He literally goes, are you fucking with me, dude?
And the next day he goes, they took your offer.
And that was it.
joe rogan
Wow.
tyler fischer
And it was like, I know Ron White calls it comedy camp.
It feels like that.
When I'm landing here, it feels like Camp David or something.
joe rogan
Yeah, Ari said it yesterday.
He said, you made a festival here every week.
It's like a festival.
tyler fischer
It's a festival.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
I wasn't sure if I'd made the right move, and then I'm on the plane, and it's Roseanne Barr, the next row back Sebastian Maniscalco, and I'm right behind him.
joe rogan
Wow.
tyler fischer
And I was losing my fucking mind.
I was like, I'll go, this is it!
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, whenever you don't know if you should do something, and you want to do something, but then you have that little, oh, I don't know, is this right?
You gotta always go for it.
tyler fischer
You gotta do it.
joe rogan
You gotta go for it.
tyler fischer
And you get better at that as you age, you know?
unidentified
Yeah.
tyler fischer
It's like, you have to, you gotta fuck up a lot, and they go, I'll fuck up a little less this time.
joe rogan
Yeah, the fuck up thing.
But it's also just like taking chances, going for things.
It's very important.
Every time I've ever done it, it's been good.
My whole life.
Every single time.
Whether it's first time going on stage, you know, even this, even like moving here.
tyler fischer
Sure.
joe rogan
You know, because I have a family and I have a business, you know, like this podcast that requires guests.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
I had all these people that already lived in LA. I had this built-in, you know, group of people that I would have on.
It's just like...
Coming out here, but I was like, this is the move.
And then opening the club, I was like, this is the move.
And it's going to be fucking annoying.
It's going to be a lot of energy, a lot of stuff going on, a lot of things to pay attention to, but that's what really needs to happen.
tyler fischer
You get to practice your hour a couple times a week, and the road comes to you.
joe rogan
That's great.
That definitely helps a lot.
It just keeps you so much healthier.
It's crazy how much better you feel when you don't travel every week.
It's nuts.
tyler fischer
I just started touring this year.
joe rogan
It wears you.
tyler fischer
Holy shit.
joe rogan
It's like getting drunk.
It's like getting drunk, and then you have a show that night, and then you have another show, and then you fly home, and you get drunk flying home.
Because it feels like when you land, you're hungover.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's just like, oh, why am I so worn the fuck out?
tyler fischer
And with the heat here, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, you get used to that.
tyler fischer
I understand Biden a little more.
I've been walking around just like, where am I? What is going on here?
Shit in my pants.
joe rogan
Ha.
You silly boy.
I was telling you before this, this mayoral race in San Francisco, this might be the end.
This might be, like, San Francisco is a failed city.
I mean, it really is.
But there's no better indication of how failed it is than listening to this debate.
Listening to these people argue about what's important in San Francisco.
This was on the Jesse Water Show.
You gotta listen to this.
unidentified
Well, how many drag queens do you know?
You were at the debate last week and couldn't name any drag queens on your own.
I was wondering if you could have, this is an opportunity to redeem yourself, and if you could name three LGBTQ advisors for your campaign and three drag queens in San Francisco.
joe rogan
Just imagine.
tyler fischer
Shut the fuck up.
joe rogan
And that was the thing she was gonna sit down on.
This is the actual current mayor of San Francisco.
London Breed.
That's her, right?
tyler fischer
London Breed.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And she's like, can you name three drag queens?
Can you name three mentally ill men who dress up like the most tardish, caricaturist...
tyler fischer
Like famous or just like Pixie that does the kid's story hour down at the library?
unidentified
I know Lexis.
joe rogan
Lexis, yeah.
Lexis down at the club does the burlesque show.
What the fuck are you talking about?
tyler fischer
Yeah.
No, sit back and enjoy.
This is...
Sit back and enjoy the show.
When wokeism just takes on this energy and it gets crazier and crazier.
I mean, look at the sexuality acronym.
It used to be gay and lesbian.
GL. It is...
Watching politicians have to recite that.
Oh, it's so amazing.
It's like they have a gun to their head.
joe rogan
Trudeau has them all down.
But my favorite is 2AI+. Plus is like, everybody's in this gang that's not a white male.
unidentified
It's basically everything.
tyler fischer
You mean the American flag?
That would be a great flag to represent everybody.
joe rogan
Biracial people of color.
There's so many different things.
Indigenous.
There's two-spirit.
Two-spirit's in there, which is my favorite.
I'm a two-spirit.
What the fuck are you?
tyler fischer
Why not three?
Why not four?
Why not 45?
joe rogan
You're limiting yourself.
And then A, which is hilarious too, because how do they have any say?
They're asexual.
tyler fischer
Asexual.
joe rogan
Like, how are they in there with the perverts?
How are they in there with the freaks?
How are they in there with the transgender people?
How are they in there with fucking guys wearing leather thongs and G-strings walking down the street with pride flags?
tyler fischer
They're like, I don't want any part of this.
joe rogan
How are the A's in that?
They just don't want to fuck.
tyler fischer
My friend came out as bisexual, this guy in New York, and he goes, well, I've been so oppressed.
I'm like, am I supposed to feel bad that you get to fuck everybody?
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
He's been oppressed, how so?
tyler fischer
I don't know.
I don't know.
joe rogan
It's a fun thing to say.
tyler fischer
It's a fun thing to say.
joe rogan
Yeah, and it also gives you a position where people have to go, oh my god, I'm so sorry.
What did I do?
tyler fischer
George Bush was talking about pride the other day, and I was like, if he was- W? Yeah, he was on some interview, and I was like, if he was president today, having to, you know, the LMAFOs, the HGTVs, The PB&Js, these are tasty folks, you know.
My cousins are translucent.
Now watch this drive.
But think about how much has changed since him.
joe rogan
Well, he is so reasonable now in comparison.
I used to have a joke about Bush getting elected, about the Iraq war, and that there's people in the back of the room, and their idea was the only way to find out how dumb people really are is to have a dumb president and see if everybody freaks out.
Because the only way they know that he's dumb is if they're smarter than him.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
So the only way to find out is put a dumb president and see how everybody responds.
And then it was all about the Iraq War and all these things happened, like what they believed.
And then at the end of it, I go, I think the people in the back of the room are going, I think we can go dumber.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they were right.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
They were so right.
tyler fischer
Well, people act like Trump and Biden are the first...
We had an autistic cowboy running the country for eight years.
We wanted eight years of that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, but people didn't want it at the end, which is why Obama won.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, which is what this country always does.
We swing hard one way and then we swing the other way.
And Duncan Trussell said this when they were smashing windows and looting during the George Floyd protests.
Duncan said, dude, this is going to be so bad because we're going to have a right wing authoritarian president next.
And I thought about it, I was like, God damn, he's probably right.
Because that's really what happens.
There's like an overcorrection.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
One way and another.
Like the San Francisco, London breed, mayor thing, this is an overcorrection to discrimination.
So there is some discrimination of gay people, there's discrimination of all kinds of people.
tyler fischer
How now, though?
joe rogan
Well, there's still, with gay people, for sure, there's still people that are homophobic, especially religious people.
tyler fischer
It's too complicated now, because it's like, well, there's that, and then there's gay guys who dress up as women who want to read to kids, and then there's those who cut their dicks.
It's too...
My dad came out of the closet when I was seven, so I was raised in this stuff.
Came out as racist, but he...
No, he's gay.
I got a gay dad.
I have two dad...
Mom, remarried, and then my dad with a husband.
And so, it's funny.
I try to talk about this, like, oh, shut up, straight white guy.
This isn't your lived experience.
I'm like, no, it is.
It is.
joe rogan
Do you say this on stage?
Do you talk about it on stage?
tyler fischer
I talk about it everywhere.
Yeah, people started booing me when I started talking about this in New York City a long time ago.
It was the first time where I talked about my personal life because I have a crazy...
Everyone has a crazy life.
joe rogan
What were they booing?
tyler fischer
Well, they're just like, you can't talk about...
That's their life.
You can't talk about what it's like to be a gay person.
And it's like, when I was seven, I was hiding it from my friends.
So I was living like a closeted gay guy.
I went to insane lengths to hide my dad having a boyfriend.
Because back, this was 1993. That's when it was, you know, and prior.
That's when it was bad.
But I imagine what guys like that think of what's going on now.
To be like, you're like a two-spirit, heteronormative, whatever this shit is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
And back then it was bad.
Um...
joe rogan
When I was in middle school, my friend Josh, his mom was gay, and he didn't tell us.
Nobody talked about it, but I... Lesbian mom's a little cooler, though.
She had the whole thing.
She was wearing the sleeveless vest with the big arms.
She was a big lady, and she had a girlfriend with short hair that was always over the house.
You'd go, who's that lady?
That's my mom's friend.
Why is she always over here?
Did she live with you?
tyler fischer
That's exactly what happened.
joe rogan
It was one of them things.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But I lived in San Francisco.
And so when I moved to Boston, I moved to Florida for a few years, then we moved to Boston.
I had been around gay people from the time I was 7 to 11. My neighbors were gay.
My aunt used to go over and play bongos with them naked.
They would smoke pot and play bongos.
I remember.
tyler fischer
That's way cooler.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean she just loved the fact she could just be naked around guys and no one cared.
But it was just this thing where like the whole neighborhood was gay.
Everybody was gay.
So gay was super normal to me.
So my friend was like hiding the fact that his mom was gay.
You know, we never really pressed him on it, but me and my other friend were like, yeah, his mom's gay, right?
Like, yeah, yeah, obviously.
But, you know, we were 13. Like, what are you going to do?
tyler fischer
For men, I think it was associated with AIDS. So I remember I was in the car, and, you know, we would, like, raise money for AIDS runs and all this stuff, and my friend's like, that's the AIDS thing, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
tyler fischer
And I would tell him, my dad's an attorney, I would tell him, because he'd go, this is my partner.
And I would tell my friends, they'd go, why is your dad's partner sleeping?
I'd go, that's his law partner.
I'd go, they're working on a case.
They're going to be up all night, fellas.
If you hear some banging and moaning and sit there recreating the murder, they're in there.
I would come up with this.
It's probably why I'm a good writer, because back then it was not accepted at all.
joe rogan
When did everybody figure it out?
tyler fischer
I never told anybody.
unidentified
Wow.
tyler fischer
Yeah, I think I was in college the first time I told somebody because I was a theater major, so it was like I was safe.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
I was the weird one being straight.
joe rogan
And it also gives you like social props.
tyler fischer
It does, yeah.
joe rogan
You get street cred.
tyler fischer
Yeah, I'll take whatever I can get now when you got resting January 6th face, man.
You need something.
joe rogan
Do you think you have January 6th?
Well, you do with that hat.
tyler fischer
Resting January 6th.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't care.
I was raised to hate America.
All that bullshit.
I fucking love this country, man.
joe rogan
It's great country.
tyler fischer
I love it.
joe rogan
There's no reason to hate America.
tyler fischer
No.
joe rogan
We should always hate bad behavior in all groups of people.
Left and right.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Shitty, evil people on both sides.
That's what we're supposed to hate.
We're not supposed to hate.
tyler fischer
And the history, it's history.
Gotta honor it.
Even, like, the stuff growing up with my dad and stuff.
I had a lot of resentment about that.
But I thought, you know what?
That's my...
That was my burden to bear.
And I have friends who, you know, who saw my dad...
You know, gay was bad back then.
But they'd see my dad being a great dad.
And cooking us dinner.
And so their introduction to a homosexual was this normal guy.
My dad, he looks like you.
He looks kind of like Bruce Willis and fucking...
He's just a normal dude.
He's not a feminine.
He doesn't do the, like, yeah, it's like, you know.
joe rogan
Which is interesting, right?
There's different groups of gay people.
We associate gay with people who behave in a very specific, exaggerated way.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
Well, they're the loudest ones on the floats with their dick out and a four-year-old's face.
joe rogan
Well, that's what's weird.
It's like, it's not just...
Gay pride.
It's overtly sexual behavior pride.
You know?
tyler fischer
Those things should have nothing to do with each other.
joe rogan
They're so different.
I know so many gay guys that are just like, you would never know unless they told you they were gay.
They just seemed like men.
tyler fischer
Do you think people are actually homophobic, or do they have an issue with it getting sort of...
Convoluted into this sexual thing that our kids are seeing.
joe rogan
I think people who are homophobic just lack nuance.
They don't understand that there's weird people in every group.
Like, would you be heterophobic if you found out about people that are child molesters?
You know like if there was men that wanted to date 14 year old girls and have sex with 14 year old girls You wouldn't be heterophobic because that just like you shouldn't be homophobic if there's Gay men that want to groom young boys.
It's not about the gay.
It's about assholes It's about shitty members of society and it's about a lot of them are people who are victims themselves and And then they perpetuate it again later in life.
It's almost like being bitten by a vampire.
One of the things that happens with a lot of these molested guys...
tyler fischer
That's how you become gay, by the way.
joe rogan
Bitten by a vampire?
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
But a lot of these molested guys wind up doing it to other kids, which is fucking insanely evil.
Like, their life got destroyed, and then they wound up destroying other people's lives.
tyler fischer
Yeah, I think it's something like 30% become molesters.
Crazy.
My priest, and I don't know the backstory on this, but he blew his brains out when I was 8 years old.
joe rogan
Jesus, dude.
Seven and eight was rough for you.
tyler fischer
Seven was dad coming out, and then...
joe rogan
What did the priest do that he wanted to blow his brains out?
tyler fischer
I don't know, but I always...
joe rogan
Catholic?
tyler fischer
I always think about it, because I'm like, were my blowjobs that bad?
You know what I mean?
Were they that bad?
joe rogan
Was it Catholic?
I don't know what he did.
tyler fischer
He didn't touch me, because I wasn't a part of it.
joe rogan
Catholic?
Methodist.
Methodist.
Interesting.
Are they allowed to get married?
tyler fischer
Yeah, I think so.
joe rogan
Huh.
tyler fischer
They're allowed to blow their brains out.
He did it at the altar.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
In front of everybody?
tyler fischer
No.
Off day.
Thank God.
But I remember going back in the next day, and we just had a new guy, and he had a mustache.
He looked like Ned Flanders.
And I'm like, no, I can't do this.
joe rogan
Did they tell everybody what happened?
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Did he leave a note?
tyler fischer
Uh, maybe.
I don't know.
joe rogan
Does anybody know, like, what was wrong?
tyler fischer
No, I googled it.
It's been wiped.
I can't even find the story.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
tyler fischer
I know.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
They're good at wiping that.
joe rogan
Well, there's a fucking...
There's a horrible thing that people connect priests with child molesters.
Because, you know, just like we're talking about other things, there's a group of them.
tyler fischer
Well, I wonder if by occupation, if it's the most.
I can't say for sure, but...
joe rogan
It's certainly associated the most.
Like, it's not like NASCAR drivers.
Imagine if that many NASCAR drivers were molesting kids.
They'd shut NASCAR down in a fucking heartbeat.
tyler fischer
Sure.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, the Catholic Church gets tax-exempt status.
tyler fischer
Right.
joe rogan
You know, they're literally guilty of moving people who are molesters to another place where they can molest new people instead of turning them in.
That's what Pope Benedict got in trouble for.
It's one of the reasons why he stepped down.
tyler fischer
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
He was responsible for moving this one guy that went on to molest 100 deaf kids.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, they would move these people to places where they could get away with it instead of turn them in.
And I don't know if they gave them counseling.
I mean, what the fuck?
The thing about that particular evil, the evil of child molesters, is it doesn't seem to be able to be fixed.
Like, no one...
You know, if you were a guy who was like a...
Wolf of Wall Street guy.
He did a lot of crazy shit with the stock market, but then you realize, like, I fucked up.
You know, I should have never done that.
I was doing drugs.
I fucked up.
People, like, kind of accept that you're not a thief anymore.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can go do talk shows, you know, you can write a book, and people go, wow, that guy, they made a movie out of him.
You know, Leonardo DiCaprio.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
Leonardo DiCaprio played him at a fucking movie, and now he's out there.
He's back.
But we don't think that way about child molesters.
It's the one, like, if you murdered somebody, like, I was young, I was stupid, I hated that person, I didn't think, I murdered them, you do 25 years in jail, you come out, maybe we think, like, that guy's reformed.
There's no feeling like that ever with child molesters.
tyler fischer
You go out and make midnight at Paris after that.
joe rogan
Yes.
He never went to jail.
tyler fischer
No, I don't know if he did, you know.
joe rogan
Well, he did something.
tyler fischer
I went out with a girl who told, she goes, I feel like I'm hanging out with Woody Allen when I'm hanging out with you.
And I was like, I don't know if that was a...
joe rogan
Like what year Woody Allen?
Annie Hall?
tyler fischer
I was like, you're giving me an existential crisis.
You're not even Asian, you know?
I'm trying something different.
joe rogan
Have you ever listened to his old stand-up?
tyler fischer
Yeah, I like it.
It's so pervy.
Yeah, he's very pervy.
joe rogan
But it's hilarious how openly pervy he is.
tyler fischer
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And then you have to think of the time in which he was doing the stand-up.
This is the 1960s.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
So he's doing this, like, weird, sexual...
tyler fischer
Yeah, I was fucking a moose, you know?
The moose had me mounted on the wall, and I was, you know...
joe rogan
Well, he's talking about girls.
tyler fischer
The way he talks about girls.
joe rogan
I loved girls.
tyler fischer
His voice is so...
This is really what his voice is.
You're a knockout, Joe.
You really are.
He's an odd dude.
When you're funny, though, that's your currency.
He's an ugly, weird-looking guy.
But if you're funny, that's what you do.
joe rogan
Yeah, up until the whole child molesting accusations.
tyler fischer
Yeah, she was a bit of a batshit crazy lady.
I mean, both of them deserve whatever happened.
They both deserve it.
She was adopting kids and returning them.
joe rogan
What?
tyler fischer
Yeah, oh yeah.
joe rogan
She returned them?
tyler fischer
Yo, all the time, yeah.
joe rogan
Why?
tyler fischer
Yeah, she was just bad.
I like this one.
You know, she would get, like, mangled kids and all these, you know, they'd have all these...
Disabilities and stuff, and then she would return them.
joe rogan
Wow.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
I mean, all the kids have come out with different stories, but, you know, they deserve each other.
joe rogan
Well, if you're fostering kids and taking care of kids, you're taking care of kids that have already experienced some crazy shit.
You know, so these kids are probably already fucked up.
tyler fischer
Yeah, a lot of them didn't speak English.
They'd bring them in from different countries, China and stuff.
They didn't speak English.
They'd be, like, disabled.
And then Woody Allen's like, you want to go for a walk?
But his movies are so good.
joe rogan
They're pretty good.
They're not that good.
tyler fischer
They're not that good.
But what I love about it, it's a different...
Nobody could do that now and go, I can go make a movie a year.
You're going, I'm going to see the Rogan movie.
I'm going to see the...
I'm seeing the Shane Gillis movie.
joe rogan
Did he really make one a year?
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wow.
tyler fischer
He made them real cheap, didn't pay himself.
And we'll never have that again.
I even remember when I was in my teens going, I'm seeing the Woody Allen movie.
You didn't even care what it was.
It's like a new comedian special coming out.
joe rogan
They were always good, right?
How many does he have?
Oh my god, look at how many movies he has, man.
Yeah, absolutely.
He's still making them?
tyler fischer
That one's good.
Rainy Day in New York is good.
joe rogan
Where does he live now?
tyler fischer
He lives in Manhattan.
joe rogan
Still?
tyler fischer
Yeah, same place.
Upper East Side.
joe rogan
I wonder if he gets fucked with.
Like, can he just walk around?
tyler fischer
Probably.
He's old, man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
He is old.
I don't think people would recognize him.
joe rogan
Really?
Oh, come on.
tyler fischer
Not the younger generation.
joe rogan
I think they know who he is.
tyler fischer
He never lived with Mia Farrow, I found out.
So they never even slept over each other's house.
They were never married.
joe rogan
Oh, no kidding.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
Doesn't make it less weird that he started fucking her daughter, but...
joe rogan
No.
tyler fischer
It does not.
joe rogan
Especially since he knew her since she was, like, two.
tyler fischer
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, not good.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what he looks like now.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, they'd recognize him in a heartbeat, dude.
tyler fischer
Well, she's older now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's 88. Wow.
tyler fischer
Goddamn.
He's done.
The pandemic, I think, finished him.
He's 88. Finished him.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, just life is finishing him.
He's 88 years old, man.
I mean, that's just...
And he still does a movie a year.
What did he get arrested for there?
tyler fischer
That's from a movie, Take the Money and Run, I think.
joe rogan
He had some great fucking movies, man.
tyler fischer
He did.
But he's a real germaphobe, neurotic guy.
The pandemic ruined anybody that had that type of personality.
joe rogan
Oh, I know a few people.
tyler fischer
Oh, God.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Done.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're not coming back.
tyler fischer
That is a tragedy.
That's the tragedy of our time, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, there were people that were barely hanging on.
tyler fischer
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
They were riddled with anxiety.
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Yeah, I was one of them, but it was more because I didn't get the vaccine and couldn't take part in society.
That was a fun little experiment we did that we're just gonna pretend like never happened.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was an interesting thing.
tyler fischer
Interesting little thing, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
We had segregation in this country based on medicine and then we're back to pretending like it never fucking happened.
joe rogan
Well, at least now they're having hearings on it.
tyler fischer
Yeah, nine years later.
Fauci was on TV the other day going, you know, it could have come from the lab.
It may have been a leak.
unidentified
I want to stay open-minded and on CNN. They're like, yeah, okay.
tyler fischer
Like, what?
Did you see all that leaked stuff coming out of his audio?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
You got to make pressure people.
You got to...
joe rogan
Yeah, they'll drop their ideological bullshit when they can't work.
You've been shown when you make their lives difficult, they'll drop their ideological bullshit.
tyler fischer
Just give them another booster.
Boost them up.
joe rogan
Saying that about people's jobs, that you're going to force them into making a decision with their own body.
And not only that, but mandate it.
And not only that, as a doctor, know that some people are allergic to some of the components, some of the actually ingredients in these vaccines.
Aaron Rodgers is one of them.
He's allergic to one of the chemicals that's in it.
You can't take it.
tyler fischer
And some people have immune systems that work pretty well, and maybe you don't need to start jabbing them with experimental stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a wild thing that happened.
And so many people are still defending it because they defended it previously.
They're not defending it from a position of objectivity, like, here we are, 2024, let's look at the data.
No, they're defending it from this weird place of, I defended it three years ago, and I shamed people three years ago, and we were right.
We were right.
We were right.
You were wrong.
We were right.
It saved millions.
They always say that.
It saved millions.
Which is, by the way, there's no way to tell if that's true.
tyler fischer
There's no way to tell.
joe rogan
Because the number of people that actually die from COVID is so grossly exaggerated.
Most people think it's a very high number of people that died from COVID. It's less than 1%.
It's like...
Was it 0.3?
Is it like one-third of 1%?
Is that what it is?
Something like that?
tyler fischer
I don't know one person.
I know people do.
I know a couple of people.
joe rogan
I know a couple of people that died.
tyler fischer
But it's not what I remember.
I was watching CNN. I was kind of like a brainwashed, woke person until the pandemic.
joe rogan
Really?
tyler fischer
Every day I was on scene and watching, watching that death ticker, that like the stock market.
And then when I made my decision not to get the vaccine and I lost almost every friend, every job, and was called like a far right Trump supporter, I go, okay, this is, we've never done this before.
joe rogan
What was your decision?
Why did you decide not to take it?
tyler fischer
Well, I mean, I'm not getting something.
First of all, it wouldn't have been made that.
Trump's really good at pushing things through regulations very fast.
If we had any other president, there's no way.
That's what warp speed.
You remember warp speed, Joe, right?
Nobody can do that.
You call it warp speed.
Edison couldn't do it with lightning speed, but I did warp speed.
They said, sure, it'll take 15 years.
I made it in two days.
He's bragging about how quick he did it.
I'm not going to fucking get that.
I'm young.
I'm healthy.
I had COVID. I had natural immunity.
I was doing what everybody has done throughout history.
joe rogan
You already had COVID, which is really important.
tyler fischer
Yeah, so why risk that?
joe rogan
What version of COVID did you have?
The earliest one?
tyler fischer
I had the first, the OG, the original.
joe rogan
How bad was it for you?
tyler fischer
It was like I get the flu every year.
I'm tiny.
I'm a sickly person.
You know?
I'm allergic to fucking cigarettes.
Can I get one of those fucking things?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Why not?
tyler fischer
I quit smoking when I was 12. But you smoke a cigar?
I started when I was 10. Oh, okay.
Yeah, 10 to 21. I smoked for 11 years.
joe rogan
Nice.
tyler fischer
So let's start now.
joe rogan
Sorry, I would have invited you.
tyler fischer
No, it's fine.
It's fine.
It's just goddamn.
joe rogan
How did I know that you had quit cigarettes?
tyler fischer
Nah, you wouldn't know that.
joe rogan
Somebody, I think somebody brought it up.
tyler fischer
Well, I put up a sign when I was filming the special that, uh, like a no smoking sign.
joe rogan
Pull that down.
tyler fischer
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
A no smoking sign?
tyler fischer
Like a Marx Brother when I fuckin...
Well, I had a, I had a, when I was, I filmed the special last week and we were live editing it.
So I put up a no smoking sign in the green room because I had all these, I had all this camera crew and stuff in there.
What do you hit, this thing?
joe rogan
The other side?
The top that's flipped the way I handed it to you?
Turn it towards you?
Turn it towards you?
No, no, no.
The other way.
You see that?
That's the top.
tyler fischer
Right there?
joe rogan
And you pull that thing down.
tyler fischer
Okay.
joe rogan
That's it.
There you go.
But you got it backwards.
You should do it the other way so you can see what you're doing.
tyler fischer
Oh, like this?
joe rogan
Yeah, there you go.
unidentified
This is a company of errors.
tyler fischer
Oh, I was good at this when I was 12. Were you?
Oh, yeah.
I used to steal cigars.
I was in like a skateboard gang and I was so small they'd send me under the counter and I would steal like thousands of dollars of cigars.
joe rogan
Under counters?
tyler fischer
Yeah, I'd sneak under the counter of a drugstore.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
tyler fischer
Because I was so small.
And then I'd come out with, and we would sell them on the street.
joe rogan
Your gang sold stolen cigars?
tyler fischer
Stolen cigars and we grew weed in my backyard.
It was a gang.
I mean, somebody stole our weed once, we went and flipped their car over and burnt it.
joe rogan
Wow.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Jesus.
tyler fischer
Yeah, yeah.
So that's, you know, the privilege of growing up in Connecticut.
It was a privilege.
joe rogan
What part of Connecticut?
tyler fischer
New Haven.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
I know New Haven.
tyler fischer
It's called Gunblazing.
Everyone's like, oh, you're so privileged.
It was, uh, you know.
joe rogan
New Haven's a sketchy place.
tyler fischer
Sketchy.
Yeah, we hear gunshots every night.
Every single night.
Super sketchy.
joe rogan
I used to do the Joker's Wild Comedy Club in New Haven.
You did?
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Is that still around?
tyler fischer
I don't know.
It's where I did my first open mic.
joe rogan
No shit.
You did your first open mic there?
tyler fischer
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Wow.
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Actually, no.
The first one was the cafeteria at college.
Yeah, it was in a play.
I was playing George Bush.
The first acting role I ever did.
Stuff Happens.
Did you ever hear about that play?
joe rogan
No.
tyler fischer
Stuff Happens.
It was in the West End in London.
It was all actual quotes from George Bush and his administration.
The whole thing.
And it's fucking amazing.
joe rogan
Really?
tyler fischer
Yeah.
We're in terror.
Weapons of mass destruction.
It was almost like the pandemic, the way they scared people.
Weapons of mass destruction.
We've got to take them out.
We've got to do what we've got to do.
And we went in there.
And what came of that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Biden pulling out, leaving billions of dollars of...
joe rogan
Shit behind, yeah.
If you just compared Biden to George Bush, George Bush looks like a fucking Rhodes Scholar.
unidentified
Yeah, Shakespeare.
joe rogan
That's what's crazy.
We thought that he was an idiot.
We thought, God, it's such an embarrassment that that guy is the president.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
And now look at the two choices we have.
You're like, yo.
Bush would be, like, the wise choice at this point.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
tyler fischer
Oh, yeah.
Did you ever watch the clip when they're, like, asking him, I think, about Bin Laden or something?
He's like, yeah, we're going to find Bin Laden.
unidentified
Yeah.
tyler fischer
But first, watch this drive.
joe rogan
I watch that every day.
It was a good drive.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
And it was a way of keeping people calm and like, he's so American.
He just is.
We're dumb.
We're fucking stupid.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's a transport to Texas.
You know, they're from Maine.
tyler fischer
He was born in New Havens, you know that?
joe rogan
Was he really?
tyler fischer
And he denies it.
joe rogan
He denies it.
tyler fischer
The bridge that goes into New Haven is the George W. Bush Bridge, and he denies.
He was born at Yale New Haven Hospital.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, why would he lie about that?
tyler fischer
Because he wants to be, I'm from Texas, you know?
Red, white, and blue, I bleed it.
joe rogan
Yeah, but everybody knows they're from Kennebunkport, Maine.
tyler fischer
Born in New Haven.
joe rogan
Really?
tyler fischer
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Interesting.
tyler fischer
They're like, fuck you, we're naming the bridge after it.
joe rogan
Is it American politics?
tyler fischer
Hey baby, New Haven!
joe rogan
Yeah, New Haven, Connecticut.
So, at one point in time he was hiding this?
Is that what it is?
Isn't that funny?
He's younger than both fucking Trump and Biden?
He's, Jesus Christ, he hasn't been the president in like 20 fucking years.
That's so crazy.
He's younger than both of them.
That's so nuts.
Look at that, that is so nuts.
unidentified
That is crazy.
joe rogan
That's so nuts.
tyler fischer
I would vote for him for a third term.
joe rogan
100%.
tyler fischer
In a second.
joe rogan
Come on back, George.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
We need a laugh, buddy.
joe rogan
And bring that Darth Vader fucking fake heart motherfucker with you.
tyler fischer
Dick Cheney?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Is he still alive?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's literally in the Bible.
He had no pulse at one point in time.
No pulse.
Because he had an artificial heart put in while they were waiting to put a replacement heart in.
unidentified
Oh, that's right.
joe rogan
An artificial pump put in.
So this pump continually circulated blood.
It didn't have a pulse.
So he had no pulse.
Tell me that's not in the Bible.
Isn't that in the Bible?
tyler fischer
Oh my God.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I haven't read the whole Bible.
tyler fischer
Maybe you heard my priest blew his brains out when I was eight.
I kind of stopped reading.
joe rogan
But I mean, if you're going to have a demon incarnate, you'll probably have no pulse.
unidentified
God damn.
tyler fischer
I would imagine.
Watching Biden, when he freezes up now, you think he's gone, man.
joe rogan
Well, he's going to go, but also he's freezing up medicated to the tits.
Whatever they're doing to keep him alive...
IV vitamin transfusions and fucking hormones and amphetamines, whatever they're doing.
I don't know what they're doing.
Nootropics, I don't know what they're doing.
tyler fischer
He could be the first president to be assassinated by time.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
I mean, I just...
joe rogan
He's not gonna make it.
I just can't believe they're running him.
It doesn't even make sense.
The more he flails about in these speeches, the more he fucks up, the more it's almost like he feels like he doesn't want to do it.
So he's trying to get out of it.
Why are they saying this didn't happen?
This did not happen.
White House denies, claims Biden froze at fundraiser event.
tyler fischer
They're calling them cheap fakes now.
joe rogan
But wait a minute.
There's a video of the show where...
Look, I don't think that's a big deal.
b-real
The thing's over.
joe rogan
He gets led off the stage.
Like, who cares?
That's nothing.
Some of the other stuff, like...
What was that one where he was, like, yelling at people?
Like, completely...
Yeah, just yelling with a big smile on his face.
tyler fischer
He always does that.
joe rogan
Yeah, but this was a wild one.
That's just him walking off with Joe Biden, with Obama.
Like, who cares?
tyler fischer
I think it was the, like, he gave him the little pinch on the arm like you do to your grandma.
Oh, he's looking at the crowd.
Betsy, let's go.
joe rogan
He's just looking out at the crowd, which is odd, too.
tyler fischer
He does look frozen, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Yeah, he's frozen.
joe rogan
Yeah, but whatever.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the least of the things that have gone wrong.
The thing of, have you seen the video of him yelling, Jamie?
There's this crazy video.
unidentified
He's like...
joe rogan
He's not saying it.
Someone says something to him and he yells something back, but it's literally no words.
And then he has a big smile on his face.
tyler fischer
He yells and then he does that whisper.
He's like...
unidentified
It's hard to believe it's real.
joe rogan
It's almost like we're being punked by China.
tyler fischer
Oh, they punked us recently.
joe rogan
They're definitely doing that.
They're definitely doing that.
tyler fischer
COVID was a bit of a punk.
joe rogan
A little bit.
tyler fischer
A little, yeah, minor worldwide punk.
joe rogan
That we funded.
tyler fischer
That we funded.
joe rogan
Yeah, our tax dollars.
tyler fischer
How about reparations for everybody who got fired for not getting the COVID vaccine?
I think everyone should get a fat check, $100,000.
joe rogan
That's not a bad idea.
That's not even enough.
How many people lost their fucking jobs?
tyler fischer
Dude, it's destroyed people.
joe rogan
This isn't it.
Let me hear this, though.
Let me hear what this one is.
joe biden
Donald Trump, when he was commander-in-chief, refused to visit a U.S. cemetery outside of Paris.
unidentified
For fallen American soldiers.
joe biden
And he referred to those heroes, and I quote, as suckers and losers.
tyler fischer
He actually said that.
unidentified
Oh.
He said that.
How dare he say that?
How dare he talk about my son and all of us like that?
joe rogan
What?
tyler fischer
How dare you?
Sweet old man, though.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Is that how his son died?
Why is he saying his son?
tyler fischer
His son...
The death of his son changes by the day.
It's like...
joe rogan
Yeah, but what is he saying there?
Is he saying his son died as a military person?
tyler fischer
Yeah, I don't think he died in war.
He mixes it up.
joe rogan
Does it say how he died?
He died from cancer?
Biden had radiation chemotherapy treatments cancer remains stable May 20 2015 is admitted to Walter Reed National Medical Center in Bethesda Maryland because of recurrence of brain cancer he died there ten days later okay what is what does that have to do what it why is he saying he how dare they talk about my son he'll link everything to his oh no no exposure to military burn pits Iraq okay that makes sense okay Oh,
so what did he do?
According to his father, Bo was diagnosed with...
say that word ankylosing ankylosing spondylosis Delitis.
Delitis.
Ankylosing spondylitis.
After returning from service in Kosovo, he was later diagnosed with brain cancer.
His father believes it was possibly a consequence of exposure to military burn pits.
Well, those burn pits 100% fucked people up.
That's so crazy that they did that, too.
They had soldiers over there, and they had all this waste, and they just burned it all.
And the wind would just blow it right into the camp, so these soldiers were just breathing in toxic chemical waste.
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Yikes.
joe rogan
Yeah, what the fuck, man?
And what was his son doing?
Or his son was in Kosovo.
Was his son serving?
tyler fischer
I think so.
joe rogan
Is that what happened?
tyler fischer
It's amazing how Trump, he looks like, he looks so young and energized compared to Biden now.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's just compared to Biden.
tyler fischer
Just compared to it.
joe rogan
He was in Kosovo after 1998-1999 Kosovo War, working on behalf of the OSCE to train judges and prosecutors for the local judicial system.
2004 became a partner in the law firm of Bittiferato, Gentilodi, Biden, and Balik.
Where he worked for two years before being elected Attorney General of Delaware.
He was nominated.
When Joe Boddy was nominated for Vice President, Bo introduced him.
Many delegates wept at his speech, which recounted the auto accident that killed his mother and sister and the subsequent commitment his father made to his sons.
So he's active duty, deployed to Iraq, sent to Fort Bliss for pre-deployment training this day after his father participated in 2008 presidential campaigns, only vice presidential debate.
Father was on record saying, I don't want him going, but I'll tell you what, I don't want my grandson or my granddaughters going back in 15 years.
So I can't see it all, Jamie.
It's cut off.
Oh, so how we leave makes a big difference.
Whoa, that didn't age well.
So how we leave makes a big difference?
Then you think about what they did in Afghanistan.
Hey man, fuck that job.
Fuck, fuck that job.
You literally have to be a crazy person to want that job.
Like, do you imagine wanting the stress of being either the vice president or the president?
tyler fischer
Like Brian Regan has a joke about being president.
Every morning you wake up, someone's like, problems, sir.
Lots and lots of problems.
Any of those jobs.
joe rogan
There's not one day where everything's like fucking yeah.
tyler fischer
Do you think they should have an age cap on the politicians?
joe rogan
Well...
tyler fischer
They got a minimum, right?
35 to run?
joe rogan
If you want to be a fireman, you have to show that you're physically competent.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You have to complete a physical fitness course.
tyler fischer
Sure.
joe rogan
You have to, you know, because you might be able to have to do things.
If you are a president, I think you should have to commit a mental fitness course.
Like, they should have to test you with puzzles.
They should have to ask you...
Yeah, yeah.
Puzzles?
Legitimately.
Like, it sounds stupid, but that's a good way to find out whether someone's brain works well.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
Test people with puzzles and quizzes and ask them questions about history, and they shouldn't be able to prepare for it.
I think it should be something that you just announce.
Today's the day.
We're gonna pull them into this room.
And we're going to film it all and ask him a bunch of questions about all kinds of things.
And then let's find out how his brain works.
tyler fischer
I mean, I think Mitch McConnell had two strokes in a very short amount of time.
joe rogan
He locks up, whatever that is.
I don't think it's a stroke, but he definitely locks up like Windows 95. Yeah.
Yeah, it's not good.
It's not good and he's not stepping down.
These people are so old.
They're so old.
And they shouldn't be doing anything.
They certainly shouldn't be running the world for future generations that they are absolutely not going to witness.
Mitch McConnell is actually stepping down.
Oh, he will step down.
When did he decide?
Not too long ago.
unidentified
It was just a couple months ago.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Finally.
Yeah.
82. But he should have stepped down fucking immediately.
tyler fischer
He sounds like Mr. Magoo and Jimmy Stewart.
I mean, you're Xi Jinping or whatever watching these politicians just having a good chuckle.
joe rogan
I think that Xi Jinping knows those politicians don't really run jack shit.
It's the, you know, what Trump likes to go, the deep state.
The deep state real.
It's real.
There's a bunch of people that run the government.
tyler fischer
Who are they, though?
joe rogan
Well, there's a lot of money.
There's heads of immense corporations that have incredible financial control and influence on politicians.
This is the reason why lobbyists are some of the richest fucking people in the country, like some of the richest real estate.
It's in Virginia, right?
It's out of DC and a lot of it's lobbyists.
The amount of money that they pour into campaigns and pour into making sure that their agendas are being met and that their businesses get to grow because of regulations or lack of regulations or tariffs or lack of tariffs or whatever the fuck they're trying to do, that's who runs things really and makes decisions.
And then the politicians keep us embattled in these social squabbles.
You know, it's like when they have...
When Kamala Harris had this guy in a dress with a beard come to the White House recently, and she's like, oh my God, for Pride Month.
Come on in, you're in the White House.
Like, that is...
To accentuate this – the social squabbling.
It's so people get fired up, yay, queers are in the White House, and then other people go, what the fuck are queers doing in the White House?
It's like that – this is a part of the grand plan to keep people not paying attention to the really important issues and to just constantly – it's like these – These fucking beach balls.
They throw up at a concert.
They constantly get thrown up.
It's working.
They're going to take away gay marriage now.
They're going to take away abortion.
They're going to take away this.
Guns.
The border.
And they just keep throwing these things in the air.
So you're just like looking left and right and looking left and right.
And Wallace is going on.
There's all sorts of laws being passed that allow them to look at any computer, any laptop, any phone.
They're gonna be able to bypass encryption with AI. I was just watching a video where a security expert was talking about that.
He was talking about What's that guy's name?
Rob Braxman.
He was talking about how AI in your operating system, like once they get AI in your operating system, all this stuff like Signal and WhatsApp, encrypted end-to-end encrypted devices, that's nonsense.
It's not going to work anymore.
It's not going to do anything.
They're going to be able to get your information before it's encrypted, as you're typing it, before you send it.
Everything is going to be transparent.
They'll have access to anything they want, anything you have on any device.
It doesn't matter what kind of encryption and what kind of bullshit you're using.
All that's out the window.
And he was explaining that.
tyler fischer
Fuck.
What about Elon's Neuralink chip?
Do you think people are going to have those?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
And they can just go open up, you know, they don't have to say it.
You just think it.
Open up Google, you know.
joe rogan
That's going to happen.
There's going to be versions of that, and it's going to get...
What's Nolan's last name?
unidentified
Arbaugh.
joe rogan
Say it again?
unidentified
Arbaugh.
joe rogan
Arbaugh.
You say it the right way?
Arbaugh?
Arbaugh.
He's the first Neuralink patient.
We had him in the other day.
And I think the episode comes out today?
unidentified
Yeah, it's out now.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's out now.
And yeah, he's the first guy to get the Neuralink.
tyler fischer
Does he sound like Elon?
It's working pretty well.
joe rogan
It's very, very smart.
Very smart, very interesting person to talk to, completely paralyzed from the neck down, except for a few movements in his hands, and he can kind of move a little bit.
His spinal cord's not...
Totally severed, but it's very badly damaged from an accident in the river.
And now with this Neuralink, he can play video games.
He can do all kinds of shit.
And he said the cursor goes where his eyes go.
The cursor goes like exactly where he wants it to go.
So he's like, I have a built-in...
Aimbot, if I'm playing video games.
I don't miss.
I can look right at it.
I can shoot at things.
Which is pretty wild.
And it makes you think, okay, well for soldiers, that's a must.
You have to give them that.
Some of the fighter jets, the new helmets that they have on now are augmented reality helmets.
And when they're flying the jets, as they're looking at a specific spot, that's where the crosshairs go.
So the crosshairs are connected to this AR. Are we going to be doing that with jokes?
tyler fischer
Like you just like hit the punchline.
joe rogan
I think comedy is probably going to be one of the last places where the actual human experience exists in a pure form.
You know, it's one of several reasons why at the mothership we make people put their phones in a bag.
Like, get that out of your head.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Stop looking at that.
Just sit down and watch a show.
tyler fischer
Huge difference.
joe rogan
It's a giant difference.
But if we could still have things like that, it'll remind us of what it's like to be a human, you know?
tyler fischer
I feel like the movies have kind of gone away.
Going to the movie theater, I stopped.
joe rogan
Well, I stopped during the pandemic because you couldn't go.
And then I was like, oh, this is way better.
If you have a nice TV at home and no one's going to interrupt and, you know.
tyler fischer
There's something about that kind of taking a girl on a date.
But, oh, yeah, I remember when everybody had to be six feet apart and, you know, two people in each row.
joe rogan
And that's all made up.
When they found out, he's like, it was out there.
I didn't make up the rules.
It was out there.
tyler fischer
From the flu, when we didn't even have fucking electricity back then.
joe rogan
Well, it doesn't make sense.
It's in the air.
It's a respiratory virus.
They've never, ever in the history of human beings been able to contain a respiratory virus.
You can't do it.
If a respiratory virus gets out to a certain number of people and it starts spreading through certain populations, it's just going to...
And it also has animal reservoirs.
So one of the things they find, it actually can exist in certain animals.
In fact, in deer, they tested a bunch of white-tailed deer, just wild deer, and a bunch of them tested positive for COVID-19.
tyler fischer
I'm gonna look back at this.
They're still six feet, staying six feet apart at the airport.
It's so fucking stupid.
joe rogan
It's so stupid, but it was all a thing where people looked for something to make them feel better, right?
So even though masks didn't work, Even though six foot distancing didn't work.
If you were out in public, and you knew that COVID was a thing, and there wasn't some sort of fake measure that made you at least feel safe, like you have to stand a little bit apart from each other, you have to wear the mask, we're going to be okay if we follow these rules.
We took the vaccine, we're standing six feet away, we're wearing a mask.
And so all those things, even though none of those things kept you from getting COVID, zero of those things kept you from getting COVID. In fact, there's more evidence now that the more of those shots you take, the more you get COVID. There's a bunch of different reasons for that, but I'm not a virologist or biologist.
Those things at least kept people thinking that they were doing the right thing and that maybe they're going to be safe.
Instead of just a freakout of a bunch of people with no masks and a wild disease that we've been told is going to kill everybody.
tyler fischer
I saw the clip of him saying, you know, masks will make you feel better.
And so I thought, okay, that makes sense.
joe rogan
No, but he said in that clip, yeah, it's not going to help.
tyler fischer
It's not going to help.
And then wear one.
Then people start wearing two.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was wearing two.
tyler fischer
Yeah, you gotta wear two, then wear a face shield, then put a fucking diaper over your fucking head.
joe rogan
The wear two is just like the woke shit in San Francisco.
It never stops.
It would go to wear a beekeeper's outfit.
It would go further.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
If they let it stay on.
I wear two masks now.
I feel more protected.
unidentified
Yeah, wrap yourself in plastic and just stay underwater.
joe rogan
It's amazing how that guy can gaslight.
It's amazing.
He does it and his hands fidget.
tyler fischer
You can tell with his body language.
joe rogan
Oh, he's fucking full of shit.
tyler fischer
I love watching him when he's in Congress when they're interrogating him.
It's a political theater, Ron!
It's all misinformation and disinformation.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's well prepared to gaslight.
tyler fischer
But how can people still watch him and go, yeah, you know, we did the right thing.
joe rogan
Even in that audio that you were talking about, when he said, when you make people's lives difficult, they will drop their ideological bullshit and get vaccinated.
tyler fischer
Fucking worked.
joe rogan
He said, when they were quizzing him on this, when they were asking him about this and confronting him with this, He said, that's not what I meant.
unidentified
Yeah.
tyler fischer
He's sick.
He's a sick, mad scientist.
joe rogan
What could you possibly have meant, other than what you said, if you're that guy?
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is not like a thought experiment.
You're hanging out with buddies, and you're like, imagine if you were a guy, and you would tell people.
No, that's not what that was.
That was you, the head of the NIH. You, the head of our America's Coronavirus Task Force.
You're the big guy.
You're the one America looks to for the answers, and you're saying that.
tyler fischer
Yeah, shame them, but God did that work, man.
What I learned from that was how hard it is to stand up for something you believe in.
God damn.
To go, I'm going to do this and you start to see your friends disappear, your family.
I wasn't allowed home for Christmas.
I had to sit outside on a porch with half my family outside wearing masks on and I'm standing on the other side.
It's 38 degrees out.
And I'm going, what am I at?
Like the first AIDS patient here?
joe rogan
How do they respond to that now?
Do they apologize?
tyler fischer
No.
Well, no, everything's just back.
We're just back.
We're back open.
But do you think that's just human nature?
joe rogan
Yeah, people are cowards.
People are cowards and there's like a mass psychosis that happens.
Everybody collectively panicked in the face of this fear that we'd never experienced before, like a global pandemic in our lifetime.
And then people fell apart.
Like, that's what happens to people when they get pressured.
There's a lot of people out there that have never really experienced actual pressure in their life.
So when something scary like a virus comes into their life, they fold up like a house of cards.
They just can't take it.
They don't know what the fuck to do.
And they don't have any personal sovereignty.
So they don't have the ability to go...
Wait, what?
What is everyone saying?
That doesn't make any sense.
Why am I going to do that?
What are the consequences?
How much do we know about pharmaceutical drug companies?
Have they ever lied before?
Oh, they have.
Have they ever been fined?
Oh, the most fines in medical history?
Okay, what are these studies?
Like, how long did they take to do these studies?
It's 100% effective?
What does that mean?
How do they define 100% effective?
Does that mean if you take it, you definitely won't get COVID? Because that's what I thought it meant.
Do you know what it meant in 100% effective and stopping death?
In the vaccine...
Robert Kennedy explained this to me.
This is his words, not mine.
But if he's right, it's the craziest fucking thing I've ever heard in my life.
And I think he's right.
In the placebo group, two people died from COVID. In the vaccine group, one person died.
Two is 100% more than one.
So it's 100% effective.
Imagine that.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Imagine that kind of math.
That's Fauci kind of gaslighting.
tyler fischer
Nobody really knew.
joe rogan
Nobody knew.
It's like 100% effective.
So you get people like Rachel Maddow on TV telling you that.
The virus stops with you.
Fuck.
You can't get infected.
You can't transmit.
And then they never even...
They had to admit later in European court that they never even tested it for transmission.
It was never tested for transmission.
tyler fischer
Who hears that and is going to go...
Ah, fuck it.
No, everyone's like, yeah, I get to be the hero.
I get to get the shot.
And I get to end it.
joe rogan
And you get to put it on your fucking Instagram.
I got vaccinated today.
unidentified
And you know what?
tyler fischer
Fucking fine.
But don't shame the people who just made the decision.
That it's not for me.
I never said one negative thing about the vaccine or who got it.
And goddamn, dude, even in the stand-up scene, I was a far-right, QAnon, all the fucking things.
Horse medicine guy, you know, it's like...
joe rogan
Listen, man, I got it on CNN. I know it.
I know it more than anybody knows it.
I know her as well.
tyler fischer
Chris Cuomo would not.
Did you see the Dave Smith?
joe rogan
Dude, Dave Smith lit him on fire.
tyler fischer
God, he lit him on fire.
joe rogan
Pissed on his corpse.
tyler fischer
That piece of shit.
That clip, actually.
I did an impression of you doing an impression of Don Lemon.
Dude, wait.
Don't get the vaccine?
Can't go to work.
Don't get the vaccine.
You can't take a poop.
Don't get the vaccine.
Unbelievable that that is on national television, and that clip lives on, and they get to just get away with that.
joe rogan
Well, not only that, him and Chris Cuomo, when he's talking about people injecting veterinary medicine, and then Chris Cuomo saying, Ivermectin?
unidentified
A dewormer?
joe rogan
The stupidity in which they were describing on cable television.
First of all, you're not injecting anything, you fucking idiot.
You're taking a small pill that's one of the safest drug profiles of any drug in recorded history that's been prescribed to human beings billions of times.
And the fact that they had the balls to go on TV and frame it that way.
And then Chris Cuomo with Dave Smith saying, like, this is what we were being told.
Like, you don't have Google.
Like, you just go out on CNN and you spit out what they're telling you?
Like, you didn't look at it at all?
tyler fischer
Even at the same token, even if you wanted to go experiment with an actual, why don't you get to do that?
So everybody has to take this experimental fucking rushed vaccine that Trump pushed through regulations.
joe rogan
Yeah, but you're missing the point.
The point is I was already better.
That's the dumbest part about this.
The dumbest part about let him experiment, let him not experiment.
That's not the point.
The point was I got better really quick.
tyler fischer
Which is hooray.
joe rogan
Yeah, but they didn't want that.
So that's when the machine moved and they went with this horse dewormer narrative because they were worried that other people were going to start taking ivermectin.
I took a bunch of things and I talked about all...
I didn't say ivermectin by itself.
I said IV vitamins, monoclonal antibodies, Z-packs.
b-real
I literally gave the list of different things.
joe rogan
There was some...
What is that stuff called?
There was some sort of a steroid that I took, too.
What was it called?
tyler fischer
You were better, like, in two days or something, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
Quick!
tyler fischer
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Like, quick.
tyler fischer
How old are you?
joe rogan
Like, it was gone.
56. Goddamn.
I was...
I was working.
I did 10 rounds on the bag six days later.
I was like, let's see what's going on.
Because the only way to really see what's going on is see if I have endurance.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
I did 10 rounds on the back.
I was nothing.
At five days in, I did a workout.
I tried it.
I was like, I feel pretty good.
I don't want to relapse because I kept hearing that people would work out too quick and they'd relapse.
So I said, let me just go through a decent workout and see how I feel.
If I feel at all drained or tired, I'm pretty in tune, which is how I knew something was wrong in the first place.
I'm pretty tuned in to my body.
And then the next day I said, all right, let's fucking push it.
Let's see what's up.
And I pushed it and I felt 100%.
I was 100% six days later.
And I think I was 100% five days later.
I just didn't try.
So that was bad for the narrative because the narrative was this thing was super dangerous.
You know, you need to take a vaccine.
That's the only way through it.
And my doctor was saying, no, no, it's not as dangerous as they're saying, especially someone like you who works out every day and takes vitamins every day and always eats healthy.
This is not the thing that's going to get you.
He's like, with the people that are dying, what I'm seeing is people with comorbidities.
He was explaining everything to me.
And he recommended a series of nutrients to take to prepare yourself to pump up your immune system.
And he's like, but there's a bunch of things that you can take if you do get infected that will help you recover.
And that's what I took.
And it worked.
tyler fischer
Yeah, think how many people could have perhaps replicated that.
joe rogan
They didn't want that.
In order to have the emergency use authorization so that they could make sure that everybody gets vaccinated, they had to have no other treatments.
That's why they demonized ivermectin.
That's why they demonized hydroxychloroquine.
That's why they kept a lot of people from getting monoclonal antibodies.
They didn't want any solution.
Other than the one that was going to make them insane amounts of money.
And that's what they pushed for.
And we went through that.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
And the thing is, did we learn?
That's the question.
Did we learn?
tyler fischer
I don't think so.
joe rogan
I don't know.
tyler fischer
I don't know.
joe rogan
I think a lot of people learned.
tyler fischer
A lot of people learned.
You learned.
I learned, but I almost didn't survive it.
To go through that.
I had no bank account.
I had no money.
The money I was getting was from comedy club cash.
And I had just gotten to the clubs in New York City.
And I decided I'm not going, here's my papers to get in.
I'm not doing it.
Not doing it.
I fucking performed outside during those shows.
I was performing for free outside of comedy clubs.
And then once the vaccine, I said, we need your papers.
And I just said, I can't do it.
I said, okay, take care.
Wow.
joe rogan
So how long did you go from that to not doing stand-up?
How many months did you not do stand-up?
tyler fischer
Well, I started just doing videos in my living room.
I lost my fucking mind.
That's the thing.
And when I tour, a lot of my fans went through a similar thing.
And so when I meet them after, it's painful.
Because everybody tells me this story.
I'm a firefighter.
I lost my job.
I'm a nurse.
I lost my job.
I lost my family.
I was isolated.
I just met a guy.
His daughter killed herself because she couldn't practice her sports.
She was locked in her bedroom.
It's like the fucking damage that was done.
And to be able to stay steady during that and go, all right, I'm going to go through this now without any friends.
And being labeled this far-right crazy person for just saying, no thanks to the shot.
You can't believe what that does to you.
And so I just feel so much for these people that did it and who stuck up to it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I do too.
And I also feel for the people that got suckered into taking it and now they have like serious consequences, serious health problems.
You know, I was ready to get vaccinated.
The UFC had allocated a bunch of vaccines for their employees because they were doing shows during the pandemic.
We did shows in the height of the pandemic with no crowds.
So the UFC has this place called the Apex Center and the Apex Center is a small arena that the UFC built.
And they built it to do like the Dana White Tuesday Night Contender Series and a bunch of different other fights that they filmed there.
And so we went there and they said, we've got the vaccine so you can get vaccinated.
We saved one for you if you want to get it.
I said, okay, great.
A lot of the UFC employees got it.
It was the Johnson& Johnson vaccine.
And so I called up the doctor.
Hey, can I get it today?
It was like the day of the fights.
He said, I can't do it today.
You have to come to the clinic.
Can you come on Monday?
And I said, I can't come on Monday.
I got to go back Sunday.
I said, but I'll be back in two weeks for the next fights.
We'll do it then.
In the time that I left, the vaccine got pulled for blood clots.
And I knew two people that had strokes.
One guy that I met and another guy who was a friend of a guy that I met.
And they told me that they had strokes within five days of getting vaccinated.
And I was like, wait, what?
And then they were saying...
I was reading the news story about it.
They're pulling it because of blood clots.
tyler fischer
Yeah, I remember that.
joe rogan
And these guys had strokes.
And I'm like, holy shit.
And I think I talked to the UFC. I go, hey man, I don't want to take that.
And one of the guys that I talked to over there was like, I agree with you.
I took it.
I don't know.
I feel okay.
But I know a guy.
I know a guy.
Everybody knew a guy that got fucked up.
Everybody knew somebody who got fucked up by it.
But it was like all of a sudden...
The genie had come out of the bottle.
Because before that, I was all in.
I was not in any way, shape, or form anti-vax.
tyler fischer
But it doesn't make you anti-vax for not wanting to get one of them.
joe rogan
My point is, in fact, I was having a conversation with...
One of the scientists that I talked to about this and I was like maybe this would be good to get people that are these crazy people that are anti-vaccine to like wake up and recognize the importance of these things.
This is my mindset back then.
And so when that happened, I decided like I'm not taking a chance with this thing.
Like this is too weird.
And then I knew another guy who had some sort of a heart problem from the Moderna one allegedly.
And then it just started getting weirder and weirder.
And then when a couple of my friends got COVID, one of the things that happened is my whole family got COVID. And I was like, well, I should probably just get it.
And I was getting tested every day because we were doing the podcast.
So the way we would do the podcast to keep everybody safe is all the employees got tested, security got tested, I got tested, everybody got tested.
And a couple of times we had to cancel shows because someone tested positive.
And then everybody had to keep getting tested.
We were very diligent about it.
But my whole family got it.
My kids got it, and they were fine.
Like, they skated through it.
Like, one day, two days, they felt great.
Like, this was early, early days.
Like, no vaccine.
No one knew what the fuck the treatment was.
My wife got it.
She took Ivermectin because they were actually prescribing it back then, and her doctor prescribed it back then.
This is the early, early days.
Yeah.
I didn't get it.
But I did feel not good.
But I was in the house, man.
I hugged the kids and they were like, you're gonna get it?
I'm like, I'm not gonna get it.
We were joking around.
They weren't even that sick.
And my wife got it worse than them for sure.
But I didn't get it, and I kept working out.
I was working out, and I remember one day I worked out, and I didn't feel good.
I was like, man, I feel fucking weak.
And I was like, I'm just going to use lighter weights and just go through three series of this routine that I do, just light and easy.
Don't push it.
Just get the blood flowing a little bit.
And then the next day I went back to the gym, and I did the same thing.
I started working out.
I was like, yeah, I don't fucking feel that good.
A little off.
Like, let's just do the same thing.
Nice and light.
Just go through the motions.
Not pushing anything.
And then the next day, I went in and I felt fucking great.
I'm like, okay, it's gone.
Whatever it was, it's gone.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
I tested every day.
Never tested positive for it.
But my body clearly was fighting something.
Like, there was something going on.
And I, because I'm so in tune with it, I recognize that I didn't push.
I do have some friends, though, that are meatheads, and they also felt that same thing.
And they were doing jujitsu, and they just kept training really hard, and they got real sick.
Because if you get sick while you're broken down from training, like, if you have a really hard, really hard workout is...
The whole thing is it makes your body stronger because it breaks you down and then your body has to build back up again.
tyler fischer
I gotta have you help build a body here.
joe rogan
If you can help me, dude.
Asan's been working out.
We can have you come in here.
tyler fischer
I do laps in my hot tub, man.
That's as much as I do.
I don't need much.
joe rogan
Well, you should do a little something.
You don't have to do anything rigorous.
tyler fischer
Actually, I heard you say once, do 100 push-ups a day and it'll change your life.
And it fucking did.
Just, I couldn't do, you know, I did 15. Now, I can do 100, no problem.
joe rogan
Yeah, that'll change your life.
tyler fischer
In my whole, everything.
It's like, you gotta be able, you gotta do what you're willing to do.
joe rogan
Well, you gotta have some activity.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Your body needs activity.
Your body, so my point is, if you break yourself down from really hard workouts, you will get fucking sick sick.
Like, the sickest I've ever been is when I got sick because I was working out really hard.
Because when that happens, then it hits you and you just fucking get wrecked.
And I knew a bunch of people that did that.
But you just gotta be smart.
A lot of tough guys are not smart.
Because they're just too tough.
They're too tough, and they make these decisions like, I'll just fucking power through.
tyler fischer
Our ape brain, our man cave brain, you know, it takes over.
joe rogan
It does, but that's also what makes you successful.
That stupid part of your brain that can just power through things, that's what makes you get up in the morning, that's what gives you discipline.
tyler fischer
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But that also can fuck you up.
tyler fischer
Can fuck you up.
joe rogan
Yeah, you have to know...
You have to be the general of the army.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
You have to understand what's going on.
You can't always just be the soldier.
Sometimes you have to be strategic about it.
Like, no, no, no.
Hold.
It's not the time to attack.
tyler fischer
Well, you need people you really trust who can tell you.
I mean, the weekend that I just filmed, I've stayed up for three days straight to finish editing it.
So I've never done that.
And I remember doing it going, this is...
I don't know if this is really stupid or really smart, but Biden could die any day and half of your set is about Biden.
The wind could take him out, man.
And so I just did three days, you know, a couple hours of sleep.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
It's like a race to see if he dies.
tyler fischer
I was supposed to film it in end of August in Chicago.
And I go, no, if he dies, this is useless.
There's three years of honing these fucking jokes in.
joe rogan
That's such a crazy mindset.
I got to get it out before the president dies.
tyler fischer
I got to beat his funeral.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Do you think that they're going to put in Gavin Newsom?
That's what I think.
I keep thinking it like every day.
I'm waiting.
Waiting for the big announcement in the news.
tyler fischer
He is so repulsive, man.
joe rogan
He's repulsive, but he knows how to talk.
That's all he needs.
tyler fischer
And he's attractive, goddammit.
joe rogan
He's got that nice hair.
tyler fischer
Hot privilege.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a smooth gas lighter.
tyler fischer
He's got that serial killer face, though.
joe rogan
Super good at running a state into the ground.
tyler fischer
He talks like he's rapping.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
We're gonna shut down the...
joe rogan
Yeah, well...
tyler fischer
It scares me.
joe rogan
It's very practiced.
He's a performer, you know?
But that's what half this country wants.
They want someone who's just gonna make them feel good enough to go to work every day.
tyler fischer
Sure.
joe rogan
As their rights get eroded.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Slowly but surely.
tyler fischer
Kamala Harris, that would be interesting.
Even to have her for one day as president.
joe rogan
Bro, they've been hiding that lady.
tyler fischer
That would be interesting.
joe rogan
No.
No, no, no.
That's when Resta's gonna attack.
tyler fischer
You know I got kicked out of a comedy club for doing an impression of her?
No.
What?
They said it's no longer okay for a straight white guy to do an impression of a retarded hyena.
joe rogan
Wow.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
What was the club?
tyler fischer
It was like a makeshift thing during COVID. It was this outdoor thing, and I got thrown out.
They go, you're racist.
I was making fun of her, and I got thrown to the curb.
joe rogan
Wow.
tyler fischer
Because I couldn't do the club, so I was unvaccinated.
I hate saying unvaccinated.
That makes it sound like the vaccine.
I didn't get circumcised.
I don't like being called uncircumcised.
joe rogan
Right.
tyler fischer
Yeah, so you can't un-something that just is.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
tyler fischer
It's the dick and then the chop dick.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
tyler fischer
I hate that.
joe rogan
It is weird.
tyler fischer
You gotta be careful with the way we phrase you're un-vaxxed.
It's like, go fuck it.
I'm just a human with blood.
Regular blood.
And you got Fauci juice.
Trump Fauci juice floating around your body.
joe rogan
Warp speed juice inside of you, son.
unidentified
Warp speed.
joe rogan
And so, did the joke go over well?
Did it get a good laugh?
tyler fischer
I was just kind of talking about race and stuff and, you're a racist!
And slow, the manager came and physically threw me to the curb.
And I just remember, what the f- what is going on?
When I started comedy, You know, I started around the time of, like, Sam Marill and Mark Norman, and I started two years after them, and we were still doing open mics.
You'd see Mark Norman on The Tonight Show, and then back at the club, hey, hey, comedy, all right, you're gay, I'm fat, praise Allah, hey, hi!
And we would say this craziest shit, and it made you good.
And then suddenly it was like, you can't say this, you can't say that, you can't say that.
And it's all made up.
It's all made up.
joe rogan
It all happened during the Obama administration.
It was a wave of it.
Dave Smith has tracked it.
It's really interesting how you describe it.
Yeah.
Really?
He describes like when the phrases, all the different catchphrases, that all of it's around 2012. It's like this big ramp up of all these things.
Racism, all these ideas, transphobia, all this big ramp up of all these issues happened around 2012. I'm transphobic, but that just means because I'm afraid of them.
tyler fischer
Joe, I'm going out with two by accident.
joe rogan
Yeah?
tyler fischer
Yeah, I used to do online dating, and they would have good angles.
The surgery's getting good, too.
And if they're Asian, game over.
Game over.
So I was on a date with a black woman.
It turned out to be a man.
And I had a complete mental breakdown.
I ran in the bathroom.
I called my friend.
I go, I'm out with a dude.
And he wants to fuck me.
He wants to take me home.
joe rogan
Jesus.
unidentified
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Yeah, that happened twice.
joe rogan
So, did they explain to you that they had a dick?
tyler fischer
No.
joe rogan
No?
tyler fischer
If you're dealing with someone who has a mental...
I'm not saying all people that...
I don't even think trans is...
It's all fucking...
Just makes you have a seizure.
But no, they don't...
A lot of them don't tell you.
joe rogan
Well, a lot of them feel like you don't have to tell.
I was actually watching a podcast where a comic was arguing that you shouldn't have to tell someone that you're trans if you're dating them, even if you're having sex with them.
tyler fischer
Hmm.
Well, you're gonna find out.
joe rogan
A comic was arguing that.
tyler fischer
When their fucking vagina comes apart.
joe rogan
And they were doing it in just this woke, compliant way.
It wasn't like they had a well-thought-out point.
It was just like, yeah, why should you have to tell people?
Like, what the fuck are you talking about?
What are you talking about?
You should tell people if you have bad credit.
You should tell people if you're going to get involved in a romantic relationship with someone and you owe the government $100,000 in taxes.
You should have to fucking tell people that.
I might be in trouble.
I might have to run to Costa Rica.
You should have to tell people a lot of things.
tyler fischer
Yeah, well, that's the new way.
It's just this compliance for all this new shit that didn't exist a couple years ago.
joe rogan
Well, the thing is that they want to say that trans women are women, so why should they have to tell you?
tyler fischer
I think it's transphobic to call somebody trans.
Because if they're an actual woman, they're just a woman.
So why are you calling them trans?
You can't transition if you were born a woman and you feel like a woman.
You really want to support people like this?
Trans shouldn't be on the fucking table.
That's a woman.
joe rogan
With a dick, though.
tyler fischer
With the dick.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So that's how you say trans woman.
tyler fischer
The woman with the dick.
joe rogan
Just so to let everybody know.
tyler fischer
Just say woman with a dick.
A dick person.
Yeah.
joe rogan
A dick holding person.
tyler fischer
Dick holding person.
joe rogan
For now.
Dick having person.
You might decide to get rid of the dick.
tyler fischer
Oh, man.
I wonder what that's...
That's the thing.
I wonder if I've ever...
joe rogan
No, boy, no.
Yeah.
Uh, yeah.
tyler fischer
They should show the surgery.
You want kids to get involved, they should show the surgery of taking your forearm skin and building a penis.
It's hard enough having God-given penis.
Imagine one built by a bunch of, like, arteries.
joe rogan
That one's scary, but that one doesn't take away your vagina.
The scary one is the penis to a vagina, where they take it off.
tyler fischer
They fold it in, really.
joe rogan
You make an opening in your body, and then you have to keep it dilated all the time.
So you have to shove something up there to make sure it doesn't close up like a fucking ear piercing.
Yo.
Man.
Yo.
One day they're going to be able to do gene therapy, and they're going to be able to literally transform someone into a woman.
That's not off the table.
They're going to be able to do that.
You know, some animals can do that.
That's one of the funniest things that Alex Jones got called out for.
The turn of the frogs, gay!
But that's a real thing.
Atrazine.
It's a pesticide or an herbicide.
They got it in with these frogs and half of the frogs changed their gender.
Like, here it is.
Atrazine is an herbicide and endocrine disruptor that can harm the sexual development of frogs by altering their hormone cycles.
Exposure to atrazine at concentrations as low as 0.1 parts per billion can cause gonadal malformations including hermaphrodites and males with multiple testes.
Atrazine can also chemically castrate male frogs, turning them into females or demasculizing them.
tyler fischer
That's kind of happening anyways in New York City.
They're doing it to men.
Seriously, I walk around and you see these couples where the female looks like the guy and the man looks more feminine.
Men are just being emasculated.
joe rogan
If they allow it.
tyler fischer
But a lot of them are.
joe rogan
A lot of them allow it.
tyler fischer
I was one of those guys.
Because when the options are all of these women...
And this is the options.
I mean, women create the sexual marketplace and men kind of dictate their behavior.
Imagine if you and I were left to our own devices with no kind of woman to kind of keep you in check.
So men have been adapting.
unidentified
Vikings.
joe rogan
That's where Vikings came from.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's where pirates came from.
Yeah.
You leave men alone and not have a bunch of women around going, hey, slow the fuck down.
tyler fischer
Slow down.
joe rogan
Then you have battle axes.
Boats full of savages storming villages.
tyler fischer
Yeah, the capital.
joe rogan
Yeah, and so that's the overcorrection.
The overcorrection is you get these incredibly feminized men.
And one of the ways that happens is jobs.
Right?
So you have a job, and you're in this social structure for eight hours a day that is very unnatural and weird, and most companies have DEI scores, and most companies have all these different requirements, and they're openly allowed to discriminate against especially heterosexual white men.
tyler fischer
I may know one or two things about that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
There was a thing that Elon tweeted, I think, today or yesterday, in response to one of these things at Disney, where one of the guys at Disney openly said, I would never hire a straight white man.
tyler fischer
I have that on tape.
You know, I have a lawsuit.
joe rogan
Well, that's why I'm bringing this up.
So you and I talked about it in the green room.
Tell your story.
Tell what happened.
How this all, this shit fest.
tyler fischer
Yeah, yeah.
It's quite, it's quite a long story.
I mean, it, I started, when I started comedy and started, I've been doing it 20 years.
So I've been, I've been on TV, TV shows, guest stars, co-stars.
You never really heard, you know, that's too many white guys, or, you know, it's getting a little too white.
And then I remember, like, at comedy clubs, you just start to hear people say, you know what, there's too many white guys.
Too many fucking white guys.
And then it became quite popular to just start to say, there's too many of you guys.
So what do you do?
We've got to get rid of them.
The first time it happened to me, I was invited to do a podcast.
It's a woman.
She was a lesbian.
She wanted me to come on and tell the story of being raised by gay men.
She goes, I think this will be good to bridge our two fan bases so people can hear it from a straight guy's point of view of what it's like to kind of grow up around, you know, I grew up in gay bars and piano bars and drag shows, and I'm kind of the long-term study for what it does to you.
It fucks you up.
You know, I started to think, maybe I'm gay, maybe I'm, you know...
In college, actually, I was going home to visit my family.
I tried kissing a guy just because I felt like I needed to fit in.
This shit really...
How'd that go?
Oh, he was like, get the fuck away from me.
I remember I was in the car and just going like...
Fuck, maybe I'm gay.
My dad's gay.
I got a gay brother.
One of my dad's brothers is gay.
I think my grandfather.
It's, you know, shit's genetic.
Yeah, for sure.
And I just, I lean in and go, get the fuck away from me.
Because I just wanted to fit in.
I wanted something to talk about at Thanksgiving dinner.
unidentified
Right.
tyler fischer
I wanted to be the gay, you know.
Yeah.
And so, um.
joe rogan
Peer pressure.
tyler fischer
Peer pressure.
This girl invited me on to talk about this.
And she was a friend.
She texts me.
And she goes, I think this was after the George Floyd thing, maybe.
And she goes, um.
I can't have a straight white guy on anymore.
And I remember just going like, what the fuck?
You can't have me on just because of my skin color?
joe rogan
What changed?
tyler fischer
It was the, during the BLM stuff, that stuff really ramped up.
It became kind of, I think, celebratory to go, fuck white people, fucking white women, white, you know.
Right.
I think it became normalized.
unidentified
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Way too, any amount is too much, but it became celebrated in a way.
And so that happened, and then it happened in another podcast, and then I had an acting agent who...
Whenever I would do stand-up, I used to host Mark Norman's show, Hot Soup.
And all the agents would come, and every couple months, someone would go, why aren't you on SNL? We've got to get you in Hollywood.
And I'd go, well, sure, sign me.
You need auditions.
And so this guy saw him and he brought me in.
It was the biggest agency at the time.
Abrams, it was called.
And I'm waiting around going, what's going on?
No auditions?
Is SNL coming to check me out?
And he emails and he goes, it's too tough out there for white guys.
He kind of was like, we're done here.
The next day, fires me.
Removes me.
No, the next day.
It was soon after.
Removed me from the roster.
I got an email.
Some more time went by and then another manager scouted me, brought me in.
It's called AGI Entertainment, I think.
And he goes, dude, you're a killer.
He goes, you got an acting resume?
He goes, we're going to get you on Curb Your Enthusiasm.
And I was like, okay, maybe this is finally somebody who's got the balls to fight this shit.
Months go by, he calls me and he goes, we hit a snag.
He said, we can't have any more white guys.
We're not hiring white guys.
We're not representing white guys.
And I just was like, what the fuck is going on?
How could you say that?
And I go, is it company policy?
And he goes, yeah.
So, halfway through the conversation, I take my phone out.
Because this happened so many times.
I was literally, I was losing my fucking mind.
My therapist goes, dude, you gotta start recording this.
You have to record this stuff, because it was happening every month.
I got a commercial campaign.
They go, you've been replaced with a black woman.
He goes, you're the guy for the job?
It was like a hosting thing where you got to do impressions.
I was perfect for it.
They replaced me.
So I started, you know, being prepared.
And I recorded it.
And I got it on tape.
And I just...
joe rogan
What did you get on tape?
tyler fischer
What did he say?
I got him literally saying, we will not represent white men and its company policy.
He said it in plain...
It's not...
It couldn't be any more clear.
joe rogan
Wow.
tyler fischer
He said, we cannot work with you just because your skin color.
joe rogan
And where were you when you recorded this?
Were you in New York?
tyler fischer
Yeah, I was in New York.
So you're allowed to do it.
You're allowed to do that in New York?
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't even know that.
joe rogan
Do you have to tell them that you're recording?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
No?
tyler fischer
No.
joe rogan
Wow.
tyler fischer
No, I was sitting at my pod.
I did like a little, because I couldn't work because of the vaccine stuff.
So I was just locked in my room for two years making Instagram videos.
I mean, I went from zero to a million, over a million followers just from...
I was doing Fauci every day, doing cameos, going on the radio as Fauci.
joe rogan
Wow.
tyler fischer
And it was just bizarre.
But dude, it fucked me up because it's so confusing to have someone go, you are the man for the job.
I had a great resume.
I mean, I was being considered for big Hollywood roles.
I was brought in for Sneaky Pete, Giovanni Ribisi.
I was up for that role.
And making my own films.
And yeah, it fucked me up.
I got really depressed.
I lost my mind.
joe rogan
And so, when you recorded this on tape, what happened after you recorded it on tape?
tyler fischer
After that, I was too afraid, because when I would tell people about this, they would go, well, whatever.
White guys have had it good.
I'm going, I just fucking got here!
joe rogan
But isn't that one of the things that someone said to you?
Like, white guys have had a good run?
tyler fischer
People say that to me all the time.
joe rogan
But wasn't that one of the things that one of the agents had said to you?
tyler fischer
Eh, I mean, I don't know if an agent said that, but...
joe rogan
You were telling me that someone said it to you.
tyler fischer
Comedy, yeah, comedy, clubs, a lot of, not necessarily clubs, but like the independent run shows, there would be like no white people allowed shows.
joe rogan
What?
tyler fischer
Yeah, oh yeah.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I was at a club and I did a spot.
Guy goes, you going on the next show?
And I go, yeah.
He goes, I didn't know you were in the LGBT plus 2RQR community.
And I go, what?
He goes, yeah, it's only no straight people allowed.
And I was like, what the fuck?
What the fuck is going on?
And so after that, I waited a while.
I talked to my therapist.
I just didn't know what to do.
Because I didn't want that to become a force of its own.
I wanted to have my talent lead the way, which it had always been doing.
And it's tough to have people say, oh, you're just being a victim or whatever.
And it's like, yeah, sometimes you're a victim and you have to fight it to heal from it and to move on from it.
And so I thought, if I don't fight this, I'm going to kill myself.
Because it's so humiliating to have someone go, your skin color is just not the time for it.
And so I just thought, I'm going to go for it.
And I just put it on Instagram.
I said, hey, I just got turned down for being white.
Any attorneys out there?
And one guy reached out and goes, I'm a discrimination attorney.
He goes, this is one of the most clear acts of discrimination I've ever seen.
He said, it's so clear cut.
And so that was a couple years ago.
So it's an ongoing thing.
These things take a long time.
joe rogan
And so you're suing for discrimination?
Is that what you're suing for?
tyler fischer
Yeah.
Every race is protected under the civil rights laws.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy, though, that they would think they're so encaptured by this fucking mind virus that they would think it's okay to be racist to white people?
tyler fischer
Not only okay, but, like, celebratory.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
You know?
joe rogan
Wild.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
And I don't let people fucking do that to me.
People think I'm just this nice little—I'm a fucking animal.
When you grow up in a crazy environment and you survive it, man, it's like, fucking come at me.
And I said, it's a hill I'll die on.
I don't care.
I was like, this is war.
We are in a full-blown culture war.
And I would give up everything for it.
Because I also owe it to, you know, people that can't fight for themselves.
I had this 10-year period where this shit wasn't going on.
I built up my acting chops, my comedy chops, with nobody saying, you can't do that, you can't say that.
And so I had this kind of, you know, this energy.
I go, I have to...
No one's going to do it for you, you know?
I saw Jordan Peterson...
Fight for that Bill C-16 thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
And I go, holy shit.
It's worth watching the congressional hearing in Canada where he's explaining you can't compel speech.
You can't tell somebody you have to say my pronouns or you go to jail.
He's like, this is going to get out of fucking control.
Everything he said came true.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I had him on at the beginning of that stuff.
And I remember people saying to me, like, why do you care about what happens, these obscure moments that happen in these universities?
And I had Brett Weinstein on after the Evergreen College thing, same kind of thing.
And I was saying, like, you know, these people are going to graduate.
Do you understand what this is the future?
Yeah.
Like, these attitudes that are being, these kids are being indoctrinated into these mindsets, they're gonna expand, and they're gonna be involved in the workplace, and they're gonna be involved in politics and culture.
Like, this mind virus is going to go everywhere.
And you gotta say what it is.
You gotta call it out when you see it.
This is kinda crazy.
And, obviously, all these years later, I mean, this was like 2016, I guess?
tyler fischer
Yeah.
So here we are, you know, Well, he's part of the reason I pursued this, Jordan, because I just...
He's like, you have to tell the truth.
That's it.
Tell the truth.
Or tell the truth, or at least don't lie.
unidentified
You know, it's like, well, it's like, you can't bloody compel my speech, you know?
joe rogan
That's a pretty good impression.
tyler fischer
Clean your damn room, you know?
It's like, finger a cat.
Rescue your father from the belly.
It's like, well, you know, it's like...
unidentified
How'd you develop that one?
joe rogan
That's a good one.
tyler fischer
You know why?
Because I was in a little emasculated little he-him living in New York, and I would sit in my room and watch his lectures with my fucking head would explode.
I go, holy, this is all the shit that I think and feel, but I haven't been able to articulate.
joe rogan
He's a brilliant guy.
tyler fischer
And my life changed forever.
Once I heard him say that, tell the truth, at least don't lie, and my life has changed forever.
That video of him with Kathy Newman.
Have you seen that?
joe rogan
That's amazing.
tyler fischer
I watch that every week.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's amazing.
tyler fischer
It's a master class in how people will try to bend your work.
And he does not bend.
unidentified
He'll be like, well, you know, women need to, like, contend in the workplace.
So what you're saying is women should just be raped in the break room.
joe rogan
It's like, no!
tyler fischer
It's like, I'm not saying that!
joe rogan
It's a funny conversation because it's all that gotcha shit gone wrong because you're doing it with a skilled person, a skilled linguist, and someone who really understands what he's saying and has a deep understanding of the history.
Of Marxist and Leninist philosophy and what it leads to, what communism and socialism actually leads to.
What you're actually saying is, by forcing people to comply, there's only one way you force people to comply, and that's violence.
That is the only way.
Ultimately, we're going to put you in jail.
What happens if I resist?
We're going to kill you.
It gets to that.
It gets to violence.
We're going to grab you, we're going to hunt you down, we're going to put you in a cage, and then we're going to force everybody else to comply as well.
And this is what he's saying.
He's like, you cannot go down this path if you do not know where it leads to.
You can't think you're being virtuous by standing up for the disenfranchised and imposing this, especially the gender pronoun thing, which at that point in time, there was 78 different Recognized gender pronouns.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like who knows how many there are now?
Like now it's nuts.
tyler fischer
Thousands.
joe rogan
It's just like people just make things up and that's what's the fun thing about TikTok.
China is so clever.
Oh my god.
They're so good with TikTok is so good.
It's so they're so smart what they did and then to show you these outrageous people Over and over again with fake eyelashes, reading stories to kids, just freaking everybody out with a bunch of different, you know, I'm two-spirit, and I'm this and that, and I'm trans-masculine.
The whole thing is just nuts.
tyler fischer
And then shutting down Free speech.
I mean, I've been banned for, shut down for three years.
They froze my, I was going, all my pandemic shit.
On TikTok?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They banned you?
What'd you do?
tyler fischer
Well, they don't have to tell you.
Besides being white.
Besides being white.
I was texting while white.
They don't have to tell you.
That's part of when you sign up.
joe rogan
Right.
Especially TikTok.
tyler fischer
And it's a communist Chinese act.
We are let, it's an act of war living in our pocket.
I don't use it.
I can't believe it.
joe rogan
It's the one I don't use.
tyler fischer
Well, I was telling you, I changed my name to Queer Disabled Comedian.
And suddenly, I started getting ad offers from TikTok.
And then when I did the bit about where I come out on stage as gay, that was the first video that they let kind of through.
joe rogan
Is it because the algorithm let it through?
tyler fischer
Probably.
joe rogan
Did it get reviewed eventually?
tyler fischer
Yeah, it just got removed again.
I just posted it again.
Because I'm like, fuck you!
So I keep posting these things over and over.
joe rogan
You just post it under different names?
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, my youngest daughter is obsessed with the vegan teacher.
The vegan teacher is this crazy lady on TikTok that's like this crazy vegan lady and she keeps getting banned.
And so they keep bringing her, she keeps making up new accounts and coming back.
tyler fischer
That's what I do on stage.
I keep coming up with new identities to see what I can get away with.
joe rogan
What is this?
Oh, this is his career disability.
tyler fischer
Yeah, that's been frozen for three years.
joe rogan
Wow.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
And look at the first video.
That's how many views all of my videos used to get.
joe rogan
3.1 million.
tyler fischer
Yeah, I was blowing up.
I was getting like 10, 20,000 followers a day.
joe rogan
Wow.
Wow.
tyler fischer
And that's the difference between a comic selling out a theater and...
Half fill in a club.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
You know, that type of exposure.
joe rogan
Oh, for sure.
Especially comically.
He was actually very funny.
When you have these messages that come and say that your account's being frozen, they don't give you any reason?
Do they say non-compliance or community standards?
tyler fischer
They can say disinformation, hateful behavior.
joe rogan
But what did they say?
tyler fischer
Each one is different.
You know what I mean?
Like, each video is...
joe rogan
But when they pulled your account, what did they say?
tyler fischer
Oh, yeah.
Hateful behavior.
joe rogan
Hateful.
tyler fischer
My Instagram got pulled, too.
joe rogan
No.
tyler fischer
Oh, bro, that's when I lost it.
When did that get pulled?
joe rogan
It's back now, right?
tyler fischer
It's back.
By the grace of God, I met somebody outside the Comedy Cellar.
And she goes, can I follow you on Instagram?
I said, no.
They just banned my account.
And that was the only way I was making money.
Was selling tickets from my Instagram videos and going on the road.
And this girl said, I just quit working there.
And I said, can they just turn you off and on?
She goes, yeah.
I go, can you have my account turned back on?
She goes, absolutely.
I gave her my information.
She sent it to somebody on Instagram.
They just flipped the switch back on.
The next day I was back.
joe rogan
So is it just completely subjective based on what an employee decides that you're offensive?
tyler fischer
Yes.
They have a whole fucking department.
And if they go, well, they got two complaints or whatever, he's being transphobic or whatever the fuck bullshit is going on at the time.
And you can't have that with art.
joe rogan
No, especially not comedy.
tyler fischer
Especially not comedy.
joe rogan
I mean, the whole idea is to push limits and the whole idea is to like walk that crazy line And say wild shit for fun.
It's just for fun.
These aren't like, you can't put them in the same categories as hate speech because no one's trying to be hateful.
They're just trying to get laughs and they're getting laughs oftentimes by saying something that the audience knows they don't mean.
They're saying it because it's funny, not because it's true, not because they want you to think it's true, because it's a ridiculous thing to say and it's a funny thing to say.
And when you hear the audience laugh, that means it worked.
It was effective.
It doesn't mean you can then put that in print and say that this is an anti-LBGTQT plus AI2. Who gets to decide?
tyler fischer
It'd be like pointing to a random person in the crowd at the mothership going, you get to pick what's hateful and what's not, and what comedians get to perform.
joe rogan
But also to have random people working at Instagram that get to...
We get to decide that.
Or TikTok.
They just get to decide that.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's so crazy.
And, you know, we know, well, thank God for Elon Musk and Twitter and X now, whatever.
I'm never calling it X. I hate that.
tyler fischer
Well, porn pops every time.
joe rogan
It's kind of crazy that they have porn on it.
But that was always the thing.
tyler fischer
No, but I mean, X, every porn site is like XXX. So you type it in and usually a porn site pops up.
joe rogan
Well, that's maybe your browsing history, sir.
tyler fischer
Well, that's talking about a friend of mine.
joe rogan
But at least on that site, you don't have to worry about that shit.
You can get wild.
You can do whatever the fuck you want there.
tyler fischer
I got banned the day or week he...
Actually, I had his attorney reach out to him personally.
Because I was banned right before he started.
And I go, oh, Elon's taking over.
They're going to give me my account back.
And, you know, it just didn't happen.
And I was doing an RFK fundraiser.
I was doing stand-up with RFK Jr. And Elon's attorney was there.
joe rogan
Oh, wow.
tyler fischer
And she texted him or something.
He's like, okay, pretty cool.
We'll turn it back on.
So it's pretty funny.
We'll get it going again.
joe rogan
Well, there's no way he could have known.
tyler fischer
No, there's so many fucking people on there.
joe rogan
I contacted him about a bunch of people that had gotten unfairly banned, including Megan Murphy, who got unfairly banned for saying that a man is never a woman.
They banned her forever.
tyler fischer
Well, good.
joe rogan
Fucking racist.
She's a feminist.
That was so crazy.
She was just arguing about that trans men or trans women are invading women's spaces and imposing masculine behavior and masculine character.
They're acting like men and taking over women's spaces.
tyler fischer
Well, that was actually the only way to get a movie role for me.
I was in that Daily Wire Lady Ballers.
And I thought, how funny that I get kind of canceled for being a white guy.
And now the first role...
Actually, no, I was in the Western with Gina Carano.
joe rogan
Oh, the one with Cowboy?
tyler fischer
Yeah.
Cowboy Sarone.
I had to kick him in the fucking nuts.
joe rogan
Did you?
tyler fischer
I had to beat the shit out of him.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
That must have been terrifying.
tyler fischer
Oh, we fought every day.
Yeah, he almost killed me.
joe rogan
That must have been terrifying.
tyler fischer
There was a scene where...
joe rogan
Fake hit that guy in the nuts.
tyler fischer
No, not fake.
He goes, fucking get me in the nuts.
And he goes, so he had me actually kick him in the nuts.
joe rogan
Do you have a cup on?
tyler fischer
No!
And I was like, dude, if you're fucking with me and I do this and you kill me, this is not...
And he's like, fucking...
And I ran and kicked him in the nuts.
We had to do it like five times.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
tyler fischer
That guy is an animal.
joe rogan
Oh, he's a savage.
tyler fischer
He would be like, let's just improvise the fight scenes.
unidentified
I'm like, I'm a Lego next to you, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's too wild.
unidentified
Yeah.
tyler fischer
He's wild.
He's so crazy.
And Gina, man, she is a monster.
I mean, the stuff she had to do in that film every day, get fucking killed and raped and beat up, and they found me on Instagram.
joe rogan
Wow.
tyler fischer
I was on my couch depressed, and I got a DM, do you want to interview or audition for the new Gina Carano movie?
joe rogan
That's great.
tyler fischer
And she's suing Disney right now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think she should win.
tyler fischer
I hope so.
joe rogan
I mean, what she did was...
I mean, the whole thing is just so...
Everyone's so crazy.
Everybody gets so nuts.
And it happens so fast.
It's a wild ride from like 2017 on.
It's like once Trump got into office, there was like all the women's marches.
Remember those?
tyler fischer
Yeah, that's where I got pussy.
b-real
Yeah, but those were like everybody...
joe rogan
There were women.
It was just women.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
It wasn't like, what's a woman?
tyler fischer
No.
joe rogan
It's like, there they are.
tyler fischer
No.
joe rogan
Women are marching.
Pussy hats on.
tyler fischer
There's no dudes in wigs.
joe rogan
And within a couple years, this mass wave of confusion just goes through the culture.
And everybody's at each other's throats on social media.
I never...
Like, interact on social media.
I just don't do it.
tyler fischer
You can't.
joe rogan
I don't think it's good for you.
tyler fischer
You can't.
I've taken the bait a couple times.
I mean, you know, if you're just a regular person and then suddenly you start blowing up or whatever and people are calling you all the worst possible names in the world, like, it's a little alarming at first and you want to defend yourself, but now, I mean, you can't.
joe rogan
I think if you wanted to really engage people on actual ideas, you'd have to do it anonymously.
I think if you really want to like – if you want to have honest discussions with people publicly about stuff, you're really better off doing it anonymously.
Because if you did it anonymously – and I don't have any desire to do this either – but if you do it anonymously, at least you could – there's no personal attacks.
No one knows who you are.
No one knows anything about you.
You could just talk about this issue.
You know, whatever the issue is, like AI, whatever it is.
Whatever it is is people are debating online.
You could have discussions about it.
You know, like people do on like 4chan or something like that, or Reddit.
Like you have a fucking crazy fake screen name.
No one has to know who you are.
And you can talk about things.
But if you're a public person like you are, and you're going, like, I see people arguing with people back and forth about the quality of their work.
Musicians arguing with fans or trolls about whether or not their last album was good.
I'm like, what are you doing, man?
You are inviting mental illness into your home.
tyler fischer
You gotta disconnect.
joe rogan
Disconnect, man.
tyler fischer
Disconnect.
joe rogan
And most people are not disconnected because it is the one form of conflict that they can engage in that doesn't really have consequences.
Unless you say something really crazy and then it goes public.
But that's pretty rare.
Most people are just attacking people like randomly, getting out their aggression, just attacking people and engaging in arguments online.
It's like, my God.
tyler fischer
It's a great distraction though.
To make it in our industry, it takes 100% of your time and effort.
I mean, I'm in almost 20 years to the point where I can now not worry about feeding myself.
joe rogan
Well, you came to my attention because of the videos.
That's what I found out about you.
And then comics.
Comics will all have very high praise of you.
So that's a nice thing to know.
tyler fischer
It's a nice thing to know.
joe rogan
And so...
tyler fischer
Hey, hey, comedy!
That was actually Mark Norman laughing at your jokes when you were new was like the first Tonight Show.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, man.
tyler fischer
And he would just go, ha!
So all the comics, that became the way to let somebody know you were good.
Everyone would do the Mark Norman laugh.
So nobody would actually give a genuine laugh, but if you're, hey, ha, ha, ha, you're like, all right.
joe rogan
Right, someone says, that's a good one.
Yeah, because a lot of times when someone has a really funny joke, I'm always like, ah, that's good.
That's good.
You know, that's the same thing.
unidentified
Yeah.
tyler fischer
And, you know, what I did, actually, because I was so afraid to say what I actually thought, I started doing impressions, because I would get my real thoughts out through my impressions, and people would link it to them.
So, like, I'd be talking about feminism, doing Bill Burr, be like, right, I went out with this girl last night, this fucking cunt, right?
Actually, like, toxic masculinity, right?
It's fucking brutal, right?
I gotta listen to that shit on a fucking Monday!
And everybody would erupt and I'd go, oh my god, they think that was Bill Burr's thought.
That was me.
And so my whole act became, you know, just doing Trump, all sorts of stuff.
And I'm pulling back from that a little now that I have some balls.
I've grown some balls.
joe rogan
But it's still a fun way to do it.
tyler fischer
It's still a fun way to do it.
joe rogan
It's a nice little way that you can sneak things in.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
You're pretty good at them.
joe rogan
Impressions?
I have a limited range.
The ones that I do I can do good, but I have a limited range.
tyler fischer
Have you ever done them on stage?
joe rogan
Yeah, I used to do a Mike Tyson impression.
Because Mike Tyson yelled at some guy in the audience that he would fuck him until he loved him.
And I was like, do you have any idea how long that would take?
And he would have to decide.
He would have to decide if he loved it.
tyler fischer
Oh yeah, I remember that.
joe rogan
I could do Tyson, I could do a few different people.
tyler fischer
It's funny when people say it's cheap or stupid.
I go, you just did an impression of your mom or the mailman.
Everybody's doing, you know...
joe rogan
Fuck those people.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
Funny is funny.
If it's funny, it's funny.
If it's good, it's good.
If it's not good, you won't laugh.
That's it.
End of story.
tyler fischer
In this line?
joe rogan
Yeah, thanks.
b-real
Anybody who says it's cheap is like, there's cheap stuff.
joe rogan
We all know cheap stuff, but cheap stuff's not impressions.
Some great people do great impressions, and it's part of the fun of watching them on stage.
Like when Shane does Trump.
You know, it's like, it's so good.
It's so crazy good.
Or he does Conor McGregor.
tyler fischer
I haven't heard of Conor McGregor.
joe rogan
Yeah, he does Conor McGregor in Roadhouse.
It's very funny.
But it's just, it's fun.
tyler fischer
And the crowd loves it.
And you're there to please the crowd.
joe rogan
I'm one of the crowd.
I love it.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, this idea, this...
It's all perpetrated by artists who either can't do the impressions or are under this false idea that there's a way that you're supposed to do comedy.
There was an alt way that you're supposed to do comedy where you weren't supposed to try hard.
There was a lot of that.
And if you acted things out or you have too much energy, they didn't like you.
You were supposed to not try and you're supposed to just stand there and be kind of monotone-ish.
tyler fischer
Yeah, that's why I didn't.
I don't really hang out with comedians.
I am now a little bit because it's a little more comfortable at the mothership, but I didn't like those things getting in my head and then thinking, are these comics judging me in the back or whatever?
unidentified
They probably are.
joe rogan
Who cares?
tyler fischer
No, they are.
joe rogan
They're all the ones who do suck.
tyler fischer
But when you're new, when you're fresh, and you're malleable, you need to grow a foundation.
joe rogan
Ooh, a lot of people get sucked down that road.
They get sucked down that road in life, and not just in comedy, but in pretty much every world, every community.
You get sucked into the ideas of the peers.
You want to fit in.
You want to be one of them.
You've got to lift the top, remember?
It's like the ideas of your peers.
You get sucked into this idea that this is the way I'm supposed to think and behave.
This is the way I'm supposed to perform my art.
When I first started out, everybody had to be clean.
You had to be a clean comedian.
Because when I started out, it was the 80s.
I started in 88, and that was the time where everybody wanted to get on The Tonight Show, and everybody wanted to get a sitcom.
So you develop this squeaky clean, television-friendly act.
And if you didn't have a squeaky clean, television-friendly act, oh, this fucking idiot.
He's just gonna do the road.
You're just gonna be a road act.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
And that's what I was.
I barely got work in town.
tyler fischer
Did you ever do Carson or anything?
joe rogan
No.
No.
I never did any of those talk shows until I became a guest because I was on a television show.
I was on Fear Factor or something like that.
I just sat down and talked to Conan O'Brien, that kind of thing.
But I didn't do stand-up on it, first of all, because I didn't like that kind of stand-up.
I didn't like five minutes.
That drove me nuts.
I had done a couple of things.
I did the MTV Half Hour Comedy Hour and a couple of those other TV-type shows.
But...
I wanted to be a club comic.
That's all I wanted to do.
I wanted to be a professional club comic.
And I remember everybody saying, you're never going to get work.
You're never going to get work.
And part of me was like, I don't...
I mean, I remember I had this conversation once with this comic.
And he was the host of Open Mic Night.
And he said, listen, you got to change your act or you're never going to work.
And he was a professional.
And he was like doing okay.
He was pretty good.
Like a professional, like a local middle act type guy that had like a competent 20 minutes.
It was not bad.
It wasn't good, but back then I thought it was really good.
Because I was 21. I actually saw him live before I ever got paid to do comedy.
I went to see Dom Herrera and he was one of the opening acts.
And when he told me, he was like, you're never going to get any work.
You've got to stop swearing.
And I go, but all my favorite comedians are like Andrew Dice Clay.
He goes, you're not Dice Clay.
I was like, okay, but at one point in time, Dice Clay, he's like, look, you don't have to listen, but you're not going to have a career.
And he like fucking stormed away and left me feeling like shit.
And then four or five years later, I came back to the club headlining because I was on news radio.
And the place was sold out.
And he said, what do you want me to say?
I go, tell them you gave me the worst advice that anybody ever gave me.
And then tell them all the TV credits that I have that you don't have.
And he just like shook his head a little bit and just walked away because he knew it was right.
Because he was still the same guy.
He was still trapped.
He was still a shitty, mediocre, barely funny act that was passable under the best conditions possible only.
But like you would never repeat his jokes at a party.
Nothing he said was ever fun.
And I went up and killed.
And it was so glorious.
It was fun.
tyler fischer
Oh, what a sweet little moment.
unidentified
Dirty.
joe rogan
But there was like a lot of the comedians back then or established guys were actually angry that I had succeeded with a dirty act because I was on television.
Like I remember one of them saying, I can't believe they gave him a job with fucking Disney.
Disney hired him.
Because Disney was where I got my first development deal.
And they're like, fucking Disney?
Have you ever seen his blowjob jokes?
Like Disney?
And I was like, sorry.
tyler fischer
Well, that shit's on Disney now.
It's come full circle.
It's where kids are learning.
joe rogan
But back then it was...
Everybody wanted to be clean.
And so there was a lot of peer pressure.
So I tried.
I tried.
I tried to conform my act.
I tried to write material that was not me.
tyler fischer
Can't do it.
joe rogan
I was a 21-year-old animal who was a kickboxer.
That's all I was doing.
My whole childhood from 15 to 21 was me traveling around the country trying to kick people unconscious.
And then all of a sudden I'm in this new environment where everybody's hypersensitive.
And everybody wants you to be clean.
And everybody wants you to do these jokes that, to me, were just like, I want to hear wild shit.
I like wild shit.
Like, I got into comedy because I saw Kinison.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I got into comedy because I saw, I want to do wild shit.
That's what I want to do.
tyler fischer
You're a fucking animal on stage.
It's like watching a wild animal.
But it's just you, you're just letting your fucking self come out.
joe rogan
It's just who I am.
I mean, that's just me being like what I think is funny, like my kind of comedy.
You don't have to like it.
A lot of people don't.
That's okay.
That's what I like.
But that's like all music, man.
You know, like there's people that don't like the Black Keys.
I don't understand them because I love them.
So I listen to Black Keys.
I'm like, fuck yeah.
And some people are like, ugh.
Okay.
tyler fischer
Just don't watch it.
joe rogan
But this is just life.
But when you're in an environment where people are telling you like it's an alt environment and all of your peers and all the people that are so desperately trying to succeed because you've achieved a level of comfort now so you can look back on it because it's not that long ago or you didn't know if it was going to work out.
And that moment when you're starting out, whether it's comedy or anything, martial arts, fucking everything I would imagine, When you're endeavoring, when you're entering into this crazy world of possibilities, this might not work.
What are the odds that it work?
How many comedians who do an open mic night ever become a professional headliner?
Goddammit, it's not even one out of a thousand probably.
It's a nutty number.
So if that was your child, Or a really good friend, you would say, oh my god, don't do this.
This is not going to work out for you.
You're going to be that 40-year-old loser staying on people's couches with no future.
Fuck, man, don't do this.
So when you're in that environment, like the alt scene when no one's really quite sure, and then there's a few people that have made it a little bit, and those are the ones that kind of set the standards and they behave that way.
And everybody else wants to be like them.
tyler fischer
You just want it.
joe rogan
And they just want to be liked by everybody else.
Everybody conforms.
Everybody becomes like this same thing.
tyler fischer
It's that group identity thing, which is really why things are crumbling right now.
You can't have it.
There is no community.
Any person that tells me I'm in a community, you're a child.
If your community is not your close friends and your family, and you say you're in a community, you're a child.
There isn't.
There's no comedy community.
joe rogan
There are a bunch of them.
tyler fischer
They're little microcosms of groups of people.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
But once you have said this is our group identity, like this is what white men are.
This is what black women are.
joe rogan
Well, one of the nice things about the club is that when we hired Adam Egott to take over and be the town quarter, one of the things that we were real clear because he was experiencing a lot of pressure in L.A. Like, he'd get pressure, like, why don't you have more women on the lineup?
Why don't you have more this in the lineup?
How come you don't have any gay people?
How come you don't have this?
I said, listen, man, this is going to be, this club is going to be 100% a meritocracy.
I do not give a fuck about any mandates.
I don't give a fuck.
All I care is if you're funny.
If you're a funny trans person, you're a funny gay person, you're a funny white guy, you're a funny black lady, who fucking cares?
Are you funny?
And if you're funny, you're in.
And because of that, look how fucking diverse the lineup is.
tyler fischer
That's what happens.
joe rogan
Especially with the people coming up.
There's all kinds of different kinds of people from all kinds of different walks of life with...
Totally different styles on stage.
There's so many different styles and complete freedom.
Complete freedom to try and Adam is so smart that he'll have these conversations with these people and he'll be like, I see what you're trying to do.
You know, you just gotta like, gotta hone it in, figure it out.
Like, I see you're trying to say it like this, but maybe like there's a way to say it that like makes the same point, but it's not as clunky.
tyler fischer
So valuable.
That doesn't happen in New York.
It's like you're out if you're not doing what we want.
And you don't know what they want because it changes.
joe rogan
Well, it's good for us.
It's good for us.
It's like helping recruiting tremendously.
tyler fischer
When I met Adam, I was in shock.
I go...
This is so foreign to me, a booker who wants to work with you and will take a risk and invest in your talent.
joe rogan
And he was one of Norm Macdonald's best friends.
He did a show with Norm.
He's a guy who knows comedy inside and out.
I've known Adam for at least 20 years.
At least.
I knew Adam when he was working at the Tempe Improv.
Back when I would just do the road there.
And I became friends with him then.
And then he came to me when I was banned from the Comedy Store.
When did you get banned from the Comedy Store?
2007. I left the Comedy Store in 2007 over that Carlos Mencia thing.
And so I told him, I'm like, I'm never coming back.
I'm like, I'm gone.
tyler fischer
You've never gone back?
joe rogan
No, I did.
I went back in 2014. But one of the reasons I went back is the guy that was running it was fired.
They caught him stealing money.
He got fired.
And then Adam Egot took over.
And when Adam took over, Adam came to visit me at the improv.
And I was performing at the improv.
And he was like, I'd really love to have you back at the store.
I'm like, dude, I don't know if I could fucking go back there, man.
I just, like, I said I was never going back.
The whole thing was so fucked up.
He's like, you know, but that guy's gone.
And it's different now.
And we're trying to bring the comedy store back.
And so the reason why I did go back, though, was because Ari Shaffir was filming a special there.
tyler fischer
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
And I had been friends with Ari when Ari was a doorman.
I met Ari when Ari was just starting out.
He was this young, fresh-faced doorman who just abandoned religion really recently.
And so he was like this young kid and he was funny.
And I became friends with him and then I started taking him on the road with me.
After a couple years of him seeing him perform, I gave him some spots outside of town.
I took him to Denver.
He killed.
I'm like, God damn.
And so I helped Ari.
I brought him in front of all these crowds.
I gave him the kind of advice that I would want someone to give to me.
Him performing at the Comedy Store, having a Comedy Central special, and doing it at the Comedy Store, to me was like, I have to be there.
I have to.
I have to see that.
I have to be there.
I have to support him.
I'm so proud of him.
I'm so happy.
I had to go there.
So I went there the day before.
And the day I went, I saw Roast Battle.
And I was like, this is amazing.
It was so vibrant and so alive.
And the place was packed.
We were upstairs, and I was one of the judges.
Like, you'd have a judge that gets to judge the roasts.
And we had so much fun.
And Jeff Ross was hosting it.
And it was just the whole thing.
The whole thing was just...
unidentified
It was so...
joe rogan
It was so vibrant.
I was like, this is like a writing exercise.
This is like, I mean, it's a roast battle.
Roast battles are, you're picking on someone, yes.
But it's really just a writing exercise with one specific target.
That's all it is.
tyler fischer
One topic you stay on.
joe rogan
And Brian Moses is an amazing host of that too.
He's so good because he's so likable.
He's so fun.
And he even makes people hug it out.
At the end, we're all going to hug.
It's nice.
He does a great job of keeping it peaceful and playful.
And then I remember being there for that and going, okay, I think I've got to come back.
And then the next day, Ari did a special.
It was amazing.
I couldn't believe it.
I was like, this is just so crazy to see him filming a special at the Comedy Store from knowing him from being a doorman.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, and here he is.
tyler fischer
You see people get so good so fast.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Because I only know him as a killer.
I have no concept of Ari or, you know, any of those guys when they start.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's one of the cool things about getting to see someone from the very beginning.
You know, when I saw Tony Hinchcliffe, I think he had been doing comedy five or six years when I first met him.
Yeah, now look at him.
He's the best.
Tony is the best roaster on planet Earth.
There's no one better.
And he'll do it off the cuff.
He can do it off the cuff better than anybody alive.
tyler fischer
Yeah, it's so good you think, oh, this is all pre-written.
Then you go, no, he just picked all this, you know, I watch him at the Mothership.
joe rogan
Dude, he does it in the green room all the time.
Him and David Lucas, I keep telling them this, goddammit, you motherfuckers, do a show together.
The two of them together are magic.
It brings out the absolute best in David Lucas, because David Lucas goes savage on Tony, and Tony goes savage on, and they're both laughing at each other's lines.
So, like, he'll clown Tony, and Tony will be dying laughing.
Like, no one gets angry, and he'll clown David, and David will be dying laughing.
Like, personal shit, like, about the way he looks, and, you know, dying of diabetes, and dying laughing.
tyler fischer
Imagine that happening with like young Gen Z woke people like Experiencing something they should have to go to the mothership and sit and watch that and go look You can tear somebody down and and it's all fun.
joe rogan
It's just funsies and then one of the things about the mothership that's so important is kill Tony because what kill Tony shows everyone is that in one minute all you have the time for is to be funny and And everything funny is rewarded.
You could say outrageous things.
People say outrageous things on Kill Tony all the time.
But if you do well in that one minute, and they give you a big notebook, and they say, we're gonna bring you back, and then you get to get a chance to go back, or you get a golden ticket, you get to perform again, or then you become the newest regular.
And now guys have careers!
Cam Patterson has a fucking thriving career.
Hans Kim has a thriving career.
William Montgomery, thriving career.
David Lucas.
These guys are killing it on the road.
tyler fischer
Fuck, I should have moved here five years ago.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
It's perfect time, dude.
You're doing great.
And then the new special that you just filmed there is coming out.
tyler fischer
It is, yeah, yeah.
When are you going to put it out?
It'll be out probably tonight.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
That's so fast.
tyler fischer
And it's all election stuff.
And I'm not a big fan of themed comedy specials, but it was just like...
Why not?
I don't know.
joe rogan
Why not for now?
tyler fischer
Well, that's why I changed course.
And I saw that Biden thing where he's sitting on the imaginary chair and I go, I gotta get this out now.
And the weekend was so fun, man.
That room is magical.
joe rogan
It's a great room.
I think that building's alive, dude.
tyler fischer
It feels like it's been there for 20 years.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It felt like that right away.
The building felt like that right away.
That building's been there since 1927. And I have this thought about things that have been around a long time.
I think memories get baked into buildings.
I really do.
tyler fischer
Sure.
joe rogan
When I go to the Comedy Store, every time I go to the Comedy Store, I have this feeling.
You walk in the hallway, you get this feeling like, wow, so much has happened here.
There's so many experiences baked into that, even when no one's in that building.
I used to, like, when we were leaving late at night, you know, we'd be hanging out in the back bar in Mitzi's bar, and we'd be drinking and talking, and everybody's like, all right, time to go home.
And we'd go out in the hallway, and you could just feel the building.
The building, that building's alive.
tyler fischer
It wouldn't have been the same if you just built a new construction.
It wouldn't have, it would have had that kind of fresh kind of...
joe rogan
We would have made it alive.
We would have eventually...
It would have taken a little time.
We brought the right spirit.
We brought the spirit of the Comedy Store to the mothership.
You know, we knew what we needed.
We knew what we needed because we already had it.
We had it in LA. We had that...
We had a home base.
And that's what we needed here.
Like, when we first moved here, I was like, God, we don't have a home base.
We had the Vulcan, which was great.
But it wasn't set up the way I would set it up.
It wasn't ideal...
There was a lot of problems with the dynamics.
And I was like, it's not quite big enough.
This isn't ideal.
So we started looking for other places.
And then when we found the mothership, when I walked into the Ritz Theater and looked around, it was like the place was talking to me.
tyler fischer
Was it just one?
What was it?
What did it look like when you walked in?
joe rogan
Well, it's been a bunch of things.
Since 1927, it was a pool hall.
It was a punk rock club.
I guess it was a nudie movie theater at one point in time.
tyler fischer
I can still feel the vibe of that.
There's a sexual energy in there.
joe rogan
Weird energy in that place.
And then from, I think, 2007 on, it was the Alamo Drafthouse.
So that's what it used to look like.
tyler fischer
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So it used to be like that.
tyler fischer
Is that the whole thing though?
Or is that just what the fat man is now?
joe rogan
That's the fat man.
So the little boy was always there too.
That was a smaller theater.
So the Alamo Draft House had two theaters.
One theater that sat like 120 people and one theater that sat like whatever the seats.
We have it set up for 250 people now.
So you see how it angles up like that?
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
So what we did was we, right where Jamie's cursor is, we cut the floor.
tyler fischer
Oh shit.
joe rogan
And so we lifted from all the way back to like the second row, we lifted the floor up to that height so it's flat.
And then, so it doesn't angle downward.
So that's the little room, right?
So we lifted the floor up to make it closer to the ceiling, and then we changed the dynamics of the stage.
So instead of being like this steep angle, like a movie theater, where everybody has a nice shot at the screen, it's flat like a comedy club, and then we lowered the ceiling.
So you could see where the balcony is.
The ceiling's lower even than the balcony.
Because that was Louie's idea.
tyler fischer
To lower it.
joe rogan
Louie's idea was like, can you lower the ceiling even more?
And I'm like, I think we can.
That's New York.
tyler fischer
New York, everything's just so fucking low.
joe rogan
Yeah, it is, but it's also Louie, because he's not just a comic, he's also a producer.
Like, he's done a lot of films, and he understands, like, sets, and he deeply understands, like, recording and dynamics.
He's like, he goes, cover everything with cloth.
Like, muffle all the back.
Is that the old?
What was this one?
I don't know.
Wow.
They're definitely watching something on the screen.
So they had one solid balcony back then.
Interesting.
Instead of two balconies.
tyler fischer
That's the fat man too?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Crazy.
tyler fischer
Look at all them back then.
Look at them.
joe rogan
I found a picture of Henry Rollins there.
tyler fischer
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Henry Rollins was on stage there in 1983. Look at that.
What year is that from?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
tyler fischer
Over there watching a talkie there, a colored film.
joe rogan
That's what it looked like back then, dude.
Isn't that nuts?
Yeah, so it's been there for so long.
And it was the Queen, it used to be called.
unidentified
Wow.
tyler fischer
Is that a river in front of it?
unidentified
What is that?
joe rogan
That's the dirt.
tyler fischer
Oh!
joe rogan
That's the ground, man.
That's probably before it was paved.
tyler fischer
Before they had pavement.
joe rogan
Yeah, they probably didn't pave it yet.
And so when we got there...
Oh, here's another funny story.
When we got there, we had to tear some of the stuff off the walls, and a swastika was painted on the brick.
tyler fischer
Whoopsie-daisy.
joe rogan
Yeah, because it used to be a punk rock club.
I guess someone painted a swastika on the wall.
Jesus.
There's a punk show there.
Yeah, there's a punk show.
Did I show you that photo of Henry Rollins?
Did I send that to you?
I think I did.
So...
We're doing all the construction and I figured someone would fucking remove the swastika.
But it was like months before we opened.
I go, hey, why is the fucking swastika still here?
And so they go, oh, we'll take it.
We'll remove it.
So they removed the paint, which made a clear white swastika.
I go, hey, retards, get rid of the design.
Don't accept, because now it's even more obvious.
Because now where all the fucking swastika was, was sandblasted off in the exact same design.
tyler fischer
Well, it's cleaner.
We think it's cleaner.
joe rogan
You know, but that's what happens when you hire laborers who don't really necessarily know what that fucking thing means.
tyler fischer
They could have sent it to Columbia University.
joe rogan
Is that Henry Rollins on stage there?
jamie vernon
Yeah, Black Flag 1982 Ritz Theater.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
Holy shit.
joe rogan
I sent you one.
Did I show you the one?
I'll send it to you right now.
I got a better photo of it.
The better photo was pretty fucking crazy.
Hold on a second.
I'll get it here.
I know I got it in this little pile.
tyler fischer
That's 1980, black and white?
joe rogan
1982. Well, you probably hired someone to do it in black and white.
tyler fischer
It's funny that things really do feel old-timey in black and white.
joe rogan
I can't find it.
I give up.
But anyway, point is, we have photos in the downstairs before you go on stage.
There's those photos of Steve Ray Vaughn.
That's him on stage in that club in 83. Damn.
Yeah.
So there's like this crazy history that's baked into that place.
tyler fischer
And just think about the history in the last year you've been open.
joe rogan
I know.
tyler fischer
How much has happened in that room?
joe rogan
Well, how much has happened in the Austin comedy scene?
The fucking scene has exploded.
Yeah.
It's pretty wild.
tyler fischer
It was an empty void that was needed.
Because you go on the coasts, and there's great clubs, but that group identity shit, this race can say this and that, every night you gotta sift through that bullshit.
joe rogan
There's also a history of wild comedy here.
Because this is where Bill Hicks started, this is where Kinison started.
They both started in Texas.
And when I had heard about Texas, like Janine Garofalo was out here at one point in Houston.
There was a bunch of comics that were out here in Houston.
And I was like, what is going on in Houston?
I remember hearing about that when I lived in Boston.
Because I lived in Boston.
Comedy store was mecca.
That was the place you had to get to.
I remember everyone was like, you've got to get to the comedy store.
That's where Richard Pryor started.
That's where Sam Kinison started.
Dice Clay was there.
All these comedians were at the comedy store.
You had to get to the comedy store.
It was the place.
Then I kept hearing about Houston.
And then when I saw Kinnison and Hicks, people were like, you know they came from Houston.
I was like, what?
Kinnison came from Houston?
Like from Texas?
Texas made comedians?
tyler fischer
Where was it performing though?
What was available?
joe rogan
The Laugh Stop.
The Laugh Stop and River Oaks was a fucking amazing club.
I don't think it's there anymore.
I don't think the club's not there anymore because the club moved to a new location, and I think that club went under.
But the original place where the Laugh Stop was was a great club.
Low ceiling, perfect little stage, and then there was also a little side area where they had an open mic that would go until like 2 o'clock in the morning.
Vibrant scene.
Like, really vibrant scene, and everybody loved to come through Houston and work that club.
And when you work that club, you know, you do, like, whatever, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, whatever days you do, you would go there and you'd see the open mics, packed, and the local comics were really good.
They were good, man.
Local comics were fucking good.
Like, you know, you'd get to see these guys like Jimmy Pineapple, these guys, like, you probably never even heard of them.
Solid fucking comedians.
You know, and Sean Rouse was there at the time, and Ralphie Mae.
There was a lot of comics coming out of that area that I was like, this is nuts, man.
I did not know that like Houston, like Texas, mostly Houston, had this scene.
And Austin had a bit of a scene, but you know, a little bit smaller.
But nothing was like what it is now.
tyler fischer
You should have something in the middle of the country.
You can't just have...
Comedy on the liberal coasts.
You need something in the middle of the country.
I think that has something to do with it.
joe rogan
It helps for sanity, for sure.
But it also helps that it's run by comics.
Like, that club's run by us.
It's our club.
There's no one else.
There's no management.
There's no overseer.
There's no executives that are making decisions based on money.
Everything's based on comedy.
tyler fischer
Yeah, I know some places, if they get a couple complaints about a joke, they want you to...
I'm not going to mention where, but I kind of got a little talking to.
We got some complaints about this one joke, and I'm thinking, who gives a fuck?
The joke kills every time.
joe rogan
Yeah, they don't get it.
They're working against themselves.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
They don't even understand what they're doing.
They're literally poisoning their own business with this stupidity.
You just gotta like let people know you can be free and you'll have more audience members and you will get rid of these people that are looking to be offended constantly because it won't be effective.
All that shit only works if people comply.
If people don't comply and then other people go, this is just comedy.
Just like when you go to see Quentin Tarantino movies, nobody's really getting killed.
You know?
Bob Marley never really shot the sheriff.
I don't know if you know that.
That was not real.
tyler fischer
Come on.
joe rogan
I know.
tyler fischer
Come on.
joe rogan
Crazy.
It's comedy.
And the problem is these fucking idiots that are running these clubs are giving in to the very thing that's going to kill their business.
tyler fischer
This has given me, like, a second birth, really.
Because I hit this wall where I kind of, you know, I've developed this act, and then you need to experiment.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
And once I started getting challenged, when I would try to, like, veer off and experiment a little, and I'm never going to bomb.
I will end strong.
I'm there to entertain the crowd.
That's my thing.
I'm willing to do crazy shit and experiment, but everybody's paying, and they're there, and, you know, I'm going to end strong.
And so, yeah, that was enough to get my ass to Texas.
I don't I never thought I'd live in Texas.
joe rogan
You can be free here.
You can be free here.
And you can be free where we are.
We've set it up that way.
We want it to be...
tyler fischer
It's like an actual safe space, you know?
joe rogan
For real.
Yeah, but safe for everybody, man.
I mean, you can be whatever the fuck you want as long as what you're saying is funny.
It's all it is.
There's no room for any horseshit, no ideology, no nonsense.
It's just, you could have an ideology, but it's just gotta be funny.
tyler fischer
That is palpable there, or maybe the opposite of that.
There's no, like, the meritocracy that you set up, you can feel that.
You go in there, and it's, you're funny or not.
joe rogan
Yeah, and you're supported, too.
It's very supportive.
tyler fischer
There's none of this identity politics stuff, which is just...
joe rogan
Killing the business, man.
tyler fischer
Destroying the scene everywhere else.
joe rogan
Well, it's just bad for a business that's about taking risks and saying outrageous things and pushing the envelope.
And that's all the greats.
Imagine setting up What a comedy club essentially is in this world, in the world of stand-up comedy, a comedy club is a place where you can hone your craft and perform.
So you go to clubs, you learn how to do it, then you go to clubs and you make a living doing it, and then eventually, if you get big enough, then you start branching out into theaters and arenas.
So it's literally the gym.
It's literally the dojo.
It's the place where you learn.
Imagine having a place where you learn where you can't take chances.
In a business that's wrapped around taking chances where all the greats, whether it's Don Rickles, Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, Richard Pryor, all of them said wild shit.
All of them.
And the only way you develop wild shit is by performing it on stage in front of people with freedom.
Well, you get a chance.
tyler fischer
I just watched the George Carlin documentary.
Did you see that?
I don't know if it's on HBO or whatever.
It's so good.
And I'm almost like, man, he almost had more freedom than we...
He's talking about seven words you can't say.
Shit, piss, fuck, concoct, sucker, motherfucker, and tits.
Now it's like the seven million topics you can't talk about.
Race, gender, gender...
joe rogan
But you can.
tyler fischer
You can.
joe rogan
You just have to do it.
unidentified
You can.
joe rogan
And if you have a club that has that established, like the mothership, anybody can do it.
You don't have to have a It's a big audience.
They'll let you do it.
Anyone will let you do it.
And no one's gonna complain.
And then, they will come see you again.
unidentified
Sure.
joe rogan
And then, the people coming to see you know what you do and there's no worries.
That's how comedy should be done.
That's the right way to develop both offensive and non-offensive acts.
tyler fischer
Sure.
joe rogan
You know, some of my favorite acts are not...
Nate Bargatze is hilarious.
Completely non-offensive.
Hilarious!
But that's Nate's act.
tyler fischer
Brian Regan, Sebastian.
joe rogan
Yeah, same thing.
Great comedians.
But that's their thing.
And that's great.
There's no right way to do it.
tyler fischer
Do you ever want to see a clean person just go, I want to see them do an hour of the filthiest fucking shit.
joe rogan
It would be funny.
tyler fischer
Sebastian, you know, you're going to get your take on this, John?
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
I take a girl home the other day, she goes...
Can I give you a rim job?
She starts pecking at me like a baby bird.
I go, I don't want my girlfriend to have the same lingo as my mechanic.
What, are you going to start tweaking my nipples?
I just want to see him fucking get Seinfeld talking about fucking trans stuff and all that.
joe rogan
Well, even Seinfeld's pushing back on all this woke shit.
tyler fischer
Well, he's getting protested.
Have you seen the protests?
Every show now.
joe rogan
It's Palestine protests.
tyler fischer
It is, but it's still kind of linked up with like, we're going to shut down comedy for our cause.
So he's getting caught up in that stuff.
joe rogan
Well, you got a lot of really dumb young people that are very entitled and think they can shut things down because they have a cause.
You think they would learn, but they're not going to, and they're going to keep doing it, and there's more attention they get every time they do it.
See the Stop Oil Now people?
They vandalize Stonehenge.
What the fuck does Stonehenge have to do with oil?
It's an amazing monument that's thousands of years old and you just spray paint all over it because you want people to stop using oil.
tyler fischer
It's a mental illness.
joe rogan
And you're wearing clothes made out of oil.
You fucking idiot.
Everything you own was shipped on a truck that was used oil.
Every fucking thing you eat, every fucking thing in your house, everything your house is made out of, the electronics on your phone, the wires in your wall, everything uses plastic, you fucking idiot.
Everything uses oil.
You're not stopping shit.
tyler fischer
I know.
Yeah, a little tomato soup on the Van Gogh.
joe rogan
It's always rich kids, too.
It's entitled kids.
It's posh kids that think that this is the thing that they should be doing with their life because they don't have any purpose.
tyler fischer
They're taught that from now.
I mean, for me, it started popping up in college a little bit.
These kids, like, age three.
Anti-racist baby.
That's a real book.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, my kid, when we were in school, right after the George Floyd thing, they sent an email saying to young kids, like some of them as young as like six and seven went there, saying that it's not enough that you not be racist.
You have to be anti-racist.
They're telling this to kids who don't have any concept of race.
They have black friends, Indian friends, Asian friends.
These are friends.
Who's nice to me?
Who likes playing the toys that I play with?
Who likes playing the games that I play?
Let's let's hang out.
You know, they don't care and you're making them focus on this for no fucking reason.
tyler fischer
It's gonna fuck them up.
joe rogan
Yeah, so they fired the person at the school and it became like a big lawsuit, but they realized they were getting grifted on and But Jesus fucking Christ, you idiots.
Like, how did you not see through?
And the parents were freaking out.
Like, what the fuck are you teaching them?
Like, why are you doing this?
Like, why are you introducing all these ideas?
Is there a problem?
If there's a problem, let's talk about the problem.
There's no fucking problem.
This is not an issue at all.
And you're making it an issue to make yourself important.
And that's the problem with these positions.
When people have these positions of equity and inclusiveness.
These people, they have these positions in universities.
They have these positions in corporations.
It's like...
God damn!
tyler fischer
The whole equity thing, that happened overnight.
The word equality was switched with equity, the equal outcome, and that's the only way to do it, is to force it.
We have to force it.
We have to have this person and this person and this race, but all the identities are becoming infinite now.
joe rogan
Yeah.
tyler fischer
So it's like, okay, Kamala Harris.
I mean, they had to discriminate against every other type of person because they said we're having a black woman.
So they had to discriminate against black men and Asian women and everybody.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, it's definitely not a meritocracy if you got her.
tyler fischer
No.
joe rogan
No.
None of it makes any sense.
The whole thing's bonkers, Matt.
It's a fascinating, fascinating time to be alive.
But it's good for comedy.
tyler fischer
Good for comedy.
I'm actually playing a DEI officer, a Jedi, he's called, justice, equity, inclusion officer, and Adam Carolla has a new cartoon out, Mr. Burcham.
Which he pitched that like 10, 15 years ago to Fox and they said no.
And Daily Wire, who's just like scooping stuff up, they produced it.
joe rogan
I think a lot of that was a response to what we were talking about once.
We were saying you can't make a good comedy movie right now because no one will go off.
tyler fischer
Jeremy saw that and was like, dude, they wrote that thing in like two weeks.
They flew me out to punch it up.
We filmed it in like three weeks and it was out.
joe rogan
That's wild.
tyler fischer
But this is Mr. Bertram.
Kyle's in it.
joe rogan
Megyn Kelly's in it.
tyler fischer
Megyn Kelly.
It's got a cast, man.
joe rogan
Nice.
tyler fischer
It's got Jay Moore.
joe rogan
Nice.
tyler fischer
That's my little diversity officer guy.
joe rogan
Alonzo?
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
I love Alonzo.
Nice.
tyler fischer
Yeah, it's like a family guy.
joe rogan
It's a fun time to push back.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a fun time to push back.
Things have gone a little bit haywire, but we're gonna be alright.
tyler fischer
For a comedian?
Oh my god.
I just wake up and I just look at the headlines.
joe rogan
And one thing that comedy does do is it highlights how ridiculous these things are and it takes some of the weight off of them.
tyler fischer
Yeah.
It's the only way.
Look at the word woke.
Woke used to be a cool thing, and because of comedy...
joe rogan
It's foolish.
tyler fischer
It's now a clown world word.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a clown world word that you can't use on the other side.
You can't say, I'm woke.
Because everyone's like, bah, you fucking idiot.
tyler fischer
You fucking loser.
joe rogan
Yeah, you fucking idiot.
So it becomes a pejorative.
It becomes something that someone points to.
It says, oh, you're infected with the woke mind virus.
tyler fischer
Like, no.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
No one who is woke claims woke.
tyler fischer
No.
joe rogan
You can't do it.
They used to.
tyler fischer
That's from comedy.
That is from it.
joe rogan
It's from memes.
It's from the internet.
Yeah.
That's what it is, man.
tyler fischer
Incredible.
joe rogan
Well, listen, dude, I'm happy you're here.
tyler fischer
Hey, thank you, brother.
joe rogan
You're a very, very funny guy.
It's been really fun watching you perform at the club.
I appreciate it, man.
unidentified
You're killing it.
joe rogan
Your special's gonna fucking destroy.
I saw some clips.
It's really funny.
tyler fischer
Thank you for building this thing that is so needed.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
Thanks for joining the team.
tyler fischer
People flying out from around the world now are showing up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, it's fun.
We're having a good time.
tyler fischer
Awesome.
joe rogan
And we're going to keep rolling, man.
We've got more plans.
tyler fischer
I can't wait.
I'm two weeks in here.
joe rogan
Yeah, we're going to expand.
tyler fischer
Get me buff, please.
unidentified
Let's do it.
joe rogan
Let's do it.
All right.
Tell everybody your Instagram before they take it down again.
tyler fischer
Yeah, tythefish, T-Y-the-fish, F-I-S-C-H. And I'm on tour right now all over the country.
joe rogan
What's the website?
tyler fischer
TylerFisher.com.
And yeah, special's out now.
It's called the Election Special.
And I have a pandemic special, too, that I filmed when I was canceled.
Kind of illegally, I filmed in a comedy club that I wasn't allowed in.
joe rogan
Nice.
Nice.
All right, dude.
tyler fischer
Thank you, brother.
joe rogan
Thank you.
My pleasure, brother.
Welcome aboard.
Good to be here.
unidentified
Thank you.
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