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Feb. 6, 2024 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #2098 - Matt McCusker & Shane Gillis
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joe rogan
01:32:32
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matt mccusker
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shane gillis
45:30
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jamie vernon
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Joe Rogan Podcast, check it out!
The Joe Rogan Experience.
Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night, all day.
joe rogan
Boys.
shane gillis
Yes.
joe rogan
Salute.
shane gillis
Hey.
joe rogan
Bud Light came all the way back.
unidentified
They came all the way back.
shane gillis
Matt, you ain't responsible.
matt mccusker
I can't.
joe rogan
Are you a non-drinker now?
matt mccusker
No, I drink.
I just unfortunately have a bad tummy.
Can't have gluten.
shane gillis
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
I've had it since I was like 21. Is it a Crohn's thing?
matt mccusker
No, it's like celiac.
If I have it, I won't die.
I'll just start burping every...
joe rogan
Celiacs is rough, man.
I have a buddy who didn't know he had it until...
I think he was like 25 or something like that.
Yeah.
shane gillis
It's about when you got it, right?
matt mccusker
21, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, he probably had it his whole life.
It just felt like shit.
shane gillis
Yeah, maybe I have it.
matt mccusker
We might all have it.
unidentified
Terrible.
matt mccusker
We might all have it.
joe rogan
You can put down 18 of these.
There's no way you can have it.
shane gillis
Responsibly.
joe rogan
Responsibly.
There's no way you're not driving.
True.
For some reason, you can do it, though.
I don't understand.
I've never seen anybody consume beer the way you can.
shane gillis
I can drink beer.
joe rogan
But you just stay at a level, a communication level.
shane gillis
Well, there's no shots.
You know what I mean?
Usually the guys, you start drinking like that, you're like, alright, what's the next thing?
joe rogan
Right.
Shots.
shane gillis
That ends your night.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a corner I turn where I'm like, oh no.
shane gillis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, yeah, I get to that corner.
joe rogan
Really concentrating on my liver.
shane gillis
Come on, boys.
Pump it out.
joe rogan
Turning that corner.
Bud Light came all the way back.
UFC, Shane Gillis.
shane gillis
Let's go.
unidentified
Let's go.
joe rogan
Let's fucking go.
matt mccusker
For the bros now.
joe rogan
I mean, that's a good move.
Like, that guy that we met, the CEO, he's got it together.
He gets it.
He gets it.
matt mccusker
I thought you were the CEO now.
joe rogan
Just in commercials.
shane gillis
I knew you guys were going to fucking make fun of me.
joe rogan
I'm so happy.
shane gillis
It wouldn't happen without this.
joe rogan
Listen, I'm so happy.
I'm so happy.
It just made so much sense.
You never let them go.
You never bailed on them.
In the heart of all the craziness, he never bailed.
Kid Rock's fuckin' shootin' cases out of his ranch.
unidentified
That turncoat.
shane gillis
That's your nemesis, that's your nemesis now.
I have to fight Bobby next time I go to Nashville.
matt mccusker
You should have a duel, a classic duel.
joe rogan
I think it was an important moment in culture where people realized, like, You know, there's consequences for certain things.
Some people, like a guy like Kid Rock, can shoot your brand.
You've got real problems with that demographic.
shane gillis
Who would have guessed?
joe rogan
Who would have fucking ever thought that was gonna happen?
shane gillis
I mean, just seeing Kid Rock do that, people must have been like, oh, fuck.
matt mccusker
You think they watched it in like a boardroom like, guys, we gotta talk about this.
joe rogan
That lady who was...
shane gillis
Maybe.
joe rogan
The lady who was in charge, the one lady who made that one video.
Let's move on.
shane gillis
Hell yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
shane gillis
Wow, I didn't see that coming.
joe rogan
Thanks, fellas.
I think we've beaten that fucking horse into a pulp.
It's a meaty jelly on the ground now.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
It's been awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's awesome.
I'm so happy.
They're smart, man.
They did a smart thing.
And they did a smart thing with the UFC, too.
It's perfect.
Yeah.
It's perfect.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
They should make the fighters drink a beer before every fight.
shane gillis
Yeah, I don't think that'd be too much of it.
joe rogan
You know how they have monster cans?
unidentified
That probably won't happen, though, but why not?
joe rogan
Why can't you?
shane gillis
All you have to do is put Bud Light on the bottle.
It's not like they're drinking fucking Monster during the fight.
matt mccusker
That's what I was saying.
joe rogan
Are they going to say it's bad for you to have a Bud Light after a fight?
That's crazy.
You just got punched in the head 185 times.
shane gillis
After the fight, yeah.
I don't think that's a tough sell.
I think those guys are cracking beers after.
joe rogan
Yeah, like the Sean Strickland-Drickus-Duplessy fight, those guys deserve beer.
They deserve a lot of beer after that fight.
matt mccusker
Use them as ice packs, too, like a cold one.
unidentified
Yeah, it's like, oh, it feels good.
shane gillis
Done that.
joe rogan
You know what I've never had used on me is that end swell.
They take that piece of hard steel and they push all the swelling away from your eyes so you can see better.
matt mccusker
Oh man, where does it go?
joe rogan
They just push off to the side of your head.
It's just to clear your vision so you can go out there and get punched again.
shane gillis
Yeah, you ever see that?
That press?
matt mccusker
No, I didn't know what that was.
shane gillis
That was like Tyson-Buster Douglas.
joe rogan
They didn't have one.
shane gillis
They didn't bring it.
They thought Tyson was gonna fuck up Buster Douglas that bad.
joe rogan
Well, he had a bad corner.
See, Tyson's downfall is largely related to many things.
Everybody falls.
They just get too big.
It's too unmanageable.
But also, Costamato died, and then he left Kevin Rooney.
And so now he's with these guys that were just like around.
And there's trainers, and it's like, he's Tyson, so he can beat everybody, anybody.
Anyway, but then he gets to this one dude in Buster Douglas who's really prepared.
His mom just died.
And he was always like that super talented guy.
Like, look how bad his eye was.
Look how bad his eye was.
And they didn't have an N-12.
shane gillis
They had a glove.
They filled a rubber glove with ice.
Yeah, so stupid.
joe rogan
I mean, you need to push on that and push it to the side.
And Tyson still almost won.
He still almost won.
shane gillis
He still dropped.
Yeah, that was a questionable ten count on that.
joe rogan
It was a questionable ten count.
It was definitely.
But there's a few of those out there in the sport.
The sport should operate on a time.
Like a digital timer should go off the moment someone touches the ground.
That's how it should go.
Because if you're a guy and maybe you like this guy more.
The fighters and the referees, they know each other.
I'm around these guys all the time in MMA. You get to be friends with them.
I'm friends with these guys.
matt mccusker
Damn, so there's no official clock.
It's just the ref is in their head.
That's great.
joe rogan
Well, in MMA, obviously this will count.
But in boxing, I'm sure it's kind of a similar situation where they all know each other.
Like, hey, what's up?
What's going on?
How you doing?
matt mccusker
Dude, I used to ref kids basketball when I was in high school.
And as soon as a kid talked shit to me, in my head, I was like, your team's losing.
I'm going to do everything in my power.
As soon as they're like, are you serious?
If a parent spoke up, I'm like, you just lost this game for your son.
shane gillis
Congratulations.
matt mccusker
Yeah, like, way to go, dickhead.
And now just the whole time.
shane gillis
You're just high as fuck coaching kids basketball.
matt mccusker
I'll get like 15 bucks a game.
joe rogan
Some parents are insufferable.
matt mccusker
Dude, it's insane.
joe rogan
They're so insufferable.
You see it in combat sports, too.
You see it, like, some parents are just so crazy.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they think, they almost want to hit the other kid that fought their kid.
Like, hey, this is the deal.
shane gillis
That makes sense, though.
joe rogan
It doesn't make sense.
shane gillis
No, no, I'm saying, like, you see your kid getting hit.
It's not like a sport, like a football or something.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
shane gillis
There's like an instinct to be like, I gotta go beat that kid's ass.
matt mccusker
Oh, for sure.
joe rogan
But you, you know, everybody knows what's going on here.
This is like, it's very important you don't violate that.
Especially with kids and adults, and it's like...
You're allowing another child to possibly knock your kid unconscious.
And that's the agreement you're making.
And you're trying to have your kid is trying to knock that kid unconscious.
Yeah.
matt mccusker
Yeah, it is what it is.
joe rogan
It's intense, man.
When I used to coach kids, I used to take kids to fights, like young teenagers, take them to fights.
And sometimes their parents would just be fucking freaking out.
I'm so used to seeing people get kicked in the face.
To me, it's normal.
I don't have any kids.
I'm 21. And I'm like, okay, how do I talk to these parents and get them to relax and understand this is the agreement that's been made here.
You can't freak out.
matt mccusker
Yeah, you're gonna freak your kid out.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're gonna freak your kid out.
You're putting too much pressure on your kid.
Like, Helio Gracie used to give his children toys and presents if they lost.
matt mccusker
That's kind of cool.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He just wanted them to get better.
And he's like, the fear of competition, the fear of losing is so overwhelming.
b-real
He would do everything he could to mitigate it.
joe rogan
And so instead of him getting fucking angry and hyped up, he would hug them and give them toys and give them things if they lost.
matt mccusker
That's really nice.
That's kind of a good way to go about it.
Because even like basketball and football, like I've seen parents like spazz, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, because if you think about it, the kid's going to try to win anyway.
He's not going to try to get his ass kicked for a G.I. Joe.
He's going to try to win anyway, so if he wins, he gets the win, and if he loses, he gets a fucking toy.
matt mccusker
Yeah, exactly.
shane gillis
I had to bet once, my dad, if I scored three baskets in a game, I'd be able to rent Mortal Kombat.
My whole team was trying to get me, my friends were trying to get me the ball.
I sucked, dude.
Six points?
Yeah, needed six points.
matt mccusker
Jumping six in a Summer League game is not easy.
shane gillis
No, it was young.
We were young, dude.
It was tough.
joe rogan
There was a wrestling match that was recently, this video went viral, because this kid, these two guys are wrestling, and it looks like this kid doesn't have an arm in.
It looks like he's just on the neck, which is illegal in wrestling.
You're supposed to have an arm in, and the dad jumps in, and I think he hits the kid.
unidentified
Oh, no.
joe rogan
Yeah, the dad, I believe, got banned for life.
shane gillis
Yeah, that should do it.
joe rogan
It's pretty crazy.
matt mccusker
Oh, he actually jumped in and beat the dude's ass?
shane gillis
He thought it was WWE rules.
He thought it could interfere.
He came in with a steel chair.
joe rogan
I don't know what the rules are to wrestling, so I can't tell you whether or not this...
I really know very little about wrestling, so I don't know whether or not the kid was doing something that was highly illegal.
And jujitsu looks normal.
It's like, oh yeah, he got his neck.
But I guess in wrestling you can't just grab the neck.
Yeah, you have to have an R-man.
I shouldn't even be talking about this.
I honestly should know.
matt mccusker
No, you're right.
joe rogan
It's the things that I should know.
You know, what the limitations of their sport are.
But I just, I'm always like, it's so silly.
matt mccusker
I guess we can choke in wrestling.
I think you could, maybe like a classic headlock.
I don't know.
shane gillis
Yeah, you could hit with a fucking...
joe rogan
But don't you have to have an R-man, though?
Don't you have to have an R-man?
unidentified
I have no clue.
shane gillis
I don't know any rules about wrestling at all.
joe rogan
I don't either.
shane gillis
I don't understand.
matt mccusker
I was saying it's hard to drop six in a summer league game.
I wasn't poo-poo in your effort.
joe rogan
I'm like...
matt mccusker
If I dropped six in a summer league game, I was like...
shane gillis
Fell down ten times.
joe rogan
There's a choke where you put someone completely unconscious with one arm, with just the headlock.
It's called a bulldog choke or a schoolyard choke.
They call it a schoolyard choke.
That's how Carlos Newton beat Pat Miletic for the welterweight title.
Like way, way back in the day.
It's a crazy picture because Carlos Newton is fucking short.
Is that the one you have here?
shane gillis
That's the scariest guy that's ever lived.
joe rogan
He's the scariest guy that ever lived.
That guy used to just throw people around.
There's no way that's legal.
Because you could put someone unconscious with that.
matt mccusker
Yeah, I don't think you're allowed.
Yeah, probably not.
joe rogan
Jamie, what are the rules for wrestling?
Are you around to grab someone by their neck?
Can you show me the video of the kid where the dad jumps in?
jamie vernon
I'm not sure if I found the right one.
This one I found was...
joe rogan
Yeah, but the one you just showed that picture again?
That's Carlos Newton when he caught Pat Melletich.
shane gillis
Jeez, dude.
That's the fucking big brother, dude.
joe rogan
Look at that arm, son.
If you had an arm like that, you'd let it sit out the window all day long.
matt mccusker
Oh, God.
unidentified
Hey, ladies.
joe rogan
Look at that arm.
shane gillis
Good Lord.
joe rogan
Probably so shredded.
Yeah, Carlos Newton was a sensational submission guy, too.
He also fought Matt Hughes and choked Matt Hughes unconscious, but Matt Hughes slammed him to the ground and knocked him unconscious, and Matt Hughes woke up first.
And Matt Hughes was like, I won?
What?
He didn't even know he won.
What happened was Carlos got him in a standing triangle, and Carlos is putting him out while he's standing up, and then Matt, in like a last-ditch effort, slams him to the ground as he's going out.
shane gillis
Wow.
matt mccusker
It's the end of a movie.
joe rogan
Carlos goes out and he goes out and then Matt wakes up.
And I remember being there.
Matt was like, what?
matt mccusker
And he won from waking up first?
joe rogan
He was the fucking man, dude.
Back in the day, he was the man.
Matt Hughes was like the first truly elite wrestler that learned black belt level submission skills.
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
So they were both out.
They were both out.
And so like Matt, he doesn't know what's going on.
matt mccusker
He sat up, so he's good.
shane gillis
Dude, getting slammed wearing fucking tighty-whities sucks, dude.
matt mccusker
That sucks so bad.
joe rogan
It was a great fight.
Matthews was the fucking man.
shane gillis
Tighty-whities is a wild move, dude.
matt mccusker
Yeah, that is pretty nuts, dude.
joe rogan
It is a wild move, but everybody wore them back then.
The Brazilian Vale Tudo guys, they all wore Speedos.
Because they fought like they fought on the beach.
Come on, Poha!
matt mccusker
Yeah, pretty boys.
shane gillis
You got in a fight with some Brazilians on the beach.
matt mccusker
I got robbed in Brazil on the beach.
joe rogan
Oh no.
matt mccusker
Were they in their undies?
No, they were just in some trunks, respectable trunks.
But yeah, they told me not to walk home on the beach by myself late at night or early in the morning.
I was like, late at night I could see, but I was like, early in the morning, it's sunrise.
And I got robbed at knife point.
joe rogan
Damn, that must have been terrifying.
shane gillis
Getting your ass beat by a guy in a Speedo.
matt mccusker
Yeah, it would suck.
joe rogan
What did you have to give up?
matt mccusker
It's like seven bucks.
It was like seven.
I had my wallet, or I had my credit card, and then I remembered I had money in my shoe or something, and they were pissed.
I'm like, oh, here, I have this, too.
They were kind of nice about it.
joe rogan
Oh, that's cool.
matt mccusker
They were like, sorry, we're really hungry.
And I was like, hey, thanks for not stabbing me, guys.
unidentified
Yeah.
matt mccusker
But I was.
I was like, you get out of your body.
When you're getting robbed, you're completely out of your body and you're just like, uh...
joe rogan
That is kind of a cool way to rob someone.
Sorry, we're really hungry.
matt mccusker
Yeah, I had a phrasebook on me and my credit card.
They took out my credit card.
I'm like, yo, you guys can take this to the Mac machine and just get a bunch of money out.
And they were like, I didn't know what that was.
And then they took like seven bucks off me and they went through my phrasebook and they were laughing at stuff that I had circled.
It was like, I want you.
They're like, ah, and I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was pretty cordial, the whole experience.
joe rogan
Wow.
shane gillis
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
That made fun of it?
matt mccusker
That made fun of my phrasebook.
They were like, bah, they're flipping through it.
joe rogan
When you land in Rio, you drive through the favelas.
shane gillis
Yeah.
matt mccusker
It's so scary.
joe rogan
And it's like, oh my god.
The level of...
You ever see City of God?
shane gillis
Yes.
joe rogan
Bro, it makes Boys in the Hood look like Sesame Street.
shane gillis
Yeah, it does.
joe rogan
That movie is crazy.
shane gillis
Yeah, they're just living in sheds on a hill.
matt mccusker
What was that game you were playing?
Fallout?
Where you're like grabbing pieces of metal and that's your house.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, I know a lot of people that came from there.
shane gillis
That's nuts, dude.
joe rogan
A lot of UFC fighters came from the favelas.
matt mccusker
Dude, it's terrifying.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a different level of poverty, man.
And it's a different level of scarcity.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
No opportunity, nothing, violence, guns.
matt mccusker
Yeah, they come.
The kids are like, when I was walking around there, I was like 21, but they'll come grab your leg and like hold on to your leg and like, por favor.
Just like, dude, here's...
shane gillis
Yeah, movie rules.
joe rogan
That's City of God.
matt mccusker
Such a good movie.
joe rogan
Movie's so crazy.
And apparently really accurate.
It really is like what it's like.
Damn, that was Roger Ebert days.
Yeah.
matt mccusker
Yeah, when I was there, this Swedish guy went to the favela with another guy to buy coke, and I was like, like, you want to come?
I was like, no, thank you.
joe rogan
Fuck all that.
matt mccusker
He got back.
He looked kind of Brazilian a little bit, luckily, but I was like, bro, I'm not going with you to go there.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's levels.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's levels in this world.
matt mccusker
Yeah, that's scary.
Being that poor is scary.
But it was nice.
I was there.
It's like Monopoly money.
If it's not your currency, I was out there just doling that stuff out.
shane gillis
You love our currency.
matt mccusker
I do.
shane gillis
We were in Australia.
Dude, we were in Australia and Matt was like, this is U.S. I tried to pay $20 in U.S. money and they were like, we don't take that.
matt mccusker
I'm like, come on, man.
shane gillis
Come on, man.
This is 10 times your money.
It's like, dude, this is American.
matt mccusker
I was treated like I was in Honduras.
I was like, yo, here's the 20 bucks.
They're like, well, we can't take this.
I'm like, no, they'll give you that.
That's good money.
joe rogan
Some money, they have clear little holes in them, and there's little holograms in it.
shane gillis
It's all bullshit, dude.
matt mccusker
It's fake.
shane gillis
American money is the only thing that matters.
joe rogan
Isn't it wild, though, that no one's figured out how to completely, accurately recreate money?
It's just pieces of paper.
They had to really stay ahead of the curve.
For the counterfeiters, the technology increased.
matt mccusker
Yeah, true.
joe rogan
All the printers.
shane gillis
That was a major problem when this country was starting.
It was an easy thing to do.
matt mccusker
It was punishable by death, wasn't it?
shane gillis
Yeah.
They used to fuck you up for that.
joe rogan
I remember the first time I ever saw a fake $20 bill.
I was like, oh wow, this is weird.
It's weird.
It feels wrong.
matt mccusker
I don't think you can buy the paper, that's the thing.
joe rogan
Isn't that wild?
matt mccusker
Money is a specific paper, but people bleach bills, and then you can print.
You can get the real paper, bleach the bill, and print tens on a one.
And you can do that and you can sell bundles of them to people.
joe rogan
Oh, no kidding.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what they do?
matt mccusker
That's what I've heard, yeah.
joe rogan
Are you involved in this?
matt mccusker
No, I just...
shane gillis
That's what I've heard.
joe rogan
Matt, how long have you been doing this?
How long have you been counting?
matt mccusker
No, I just...
I've heard...
There's bad...
Bad money goes around.
People sell it in, like, big chunks.
And you can get it in, like...
joe rogan
It just seems like if they can make fake Rolexes, how the fuck can they not make fake?
Like, you know they have the light they shine on the dollar bills now?
Because, like, things embedded in them and stuff?
matt mccusker
Yeah, I don't know.
I think the people who are counterfeiting, though, aren't just kind of like...
I don't know.
You'd have to be so advanced technologically to, like, do that.
And if you're able to make money, you could probably do all kinds of other stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's the case with a lot of things that are illegal.
It's like there's some industrious people that just go the wrong way in life, but they're really fucking smart.
matt mccusker
That's true.
shane gillis
I think I had some fake mushrooms recently.
matt mccusker
Oh, there you go.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Officials say man sued Mr. Clean Magic Erasers while he used, rather, Mr. Clean Magic Erasers to transform $1 bills into hundreds.
Magic Erasers?
So he erased it and then reprinted over it?
matt mccusker
Yeah.
jamie vernon
You're supposed to clean your wall with.
matt mccusker
And that way you can get, you have the good paper, but then I guess that's why you have those strips, because then you can hold up a strip and be like, that's not a $10 bill, this is a $1 bill.
joe rogan
That's a lot of work, man.
I wonder how much money you made.
You go to jail forever, son.
matt mccusker
It's the Secret Service.
The Secret Service looks into this stuff.
joe rogan
Speaking of which, what did they arrest Killer Mike for?
matt mccusker
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
That is one of the most ridiculous.
They don't arrest anybody in L.A. You got people literally doing meth in front of people's houses and tents.
shane gillis
What did he do?
joe rogan
And Killer Mike gets arrested after he wins...
Three grams.
shane gillis
Yeah.
matt mccusker
What did he do?
joe rogan
Well, of course, the online conspiracy theory is that he criticized Joe Biden.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
That's the online conspiracy.
unidentified
Of course.
matt mccusker
I like that.
joe rogan
That's a great conspiracy.
matt mccusker
That is.
shane gillis
It's a fun conspiracy.
joe rogan
Who the fuck would arrest Killer Mike?
What is this misdemeanor?
What did he do?
Did he have a license plate missing or something?
What the fuck did he do that they're...
They didn't release Killer Mike to him.
matt mccusker
They didn't release a charge?
joe rogan
We're gonna find out.
Killer Mike, I guarantee you didn't do it.
shane gillis
Killer Mike?
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
You think he did something?
He's such a good guy.
Killer Mike.
joe rogan
As brilliant as he is, that is the name of like a crazy thug.
That's not the name of a guy who's like a philosopher.
Killer Mike is like a...
shane gillis
Killer Mike's not even a creative name.
It's like a name that's like the dumb guy in the neighborhood.
You're like, oh, that's Killer Mike.
The fuck away from that guy.
jamie vernon
This is an hour ago.
He said nothing happened, but this is the official report.
He says a physical altercation happened.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
jamie vernon
And he was then released on a misdemeanor battery and then released on zero bail.
joe rogan
Oh, he bitch slapped somebody.
unidentified
Yeah.
matt mccusker
That kind of rules.
That's awesome.
joe rogan
But again, in Los Angeles, there's people that are literally pulling knives on sheriffs and being out of jail that day.
shane gillis
Yeah.
unidentified
He did what Will Smith did at the award.
At the award.
Literally.
shane gillis
Right.
joe rogan
In front of the whole world.
And he gets arrested.
matt mccusker
Yeah, that's bizarre.
joe rogan
So, you think it's like post-Will Smith, they've changed the rules?
matt mccusker
Maybe, maybe, yeah.
joe rogan
Whenever celebrities smack each other, you have to step in right away.
matt mccusker
Might be a new task force for that.
joe rogan
Well, it depends on who he smacked, you know?
matt mccusker
True, that's the question, yeah.
joe rogan
Right, if it's somebody we want him to smack, you know, now I'm really irritated.
You know, if he smacked Taylor Swift, that would be a real issue.
shane gillis
Yeah, you don't put your hands on our queens.
matt mccusker
Not after last night.
Didn't she do well last night?
I saw the news.
She did a lot in the Grammys.
shane gillis
Things are going well for Taylor Swift.
joe rogan
I find it so fascinating how many people, for whatever reason, are opposed to it.
They don't like that she's so popular.
matt mccusker
I don't understand it.
joe rogan
It's normal.
It's normal human behavior.
matt mccusker
She's ruining the game of football now.
shane gillis
I can't watch it.
That's the new thing.
matt mccusker
She has ruined the game of football.
shane gillis
I can't even watch it anymore.
Because it cuts to her once or twice.
During the game, and I see her and I go, motherfucker.
joe rogan
Why do you care?
shane gillis
No, I don't at all.
It's crazy.
Although, I will say this.
When they're playing against you, when it's your team, and then the camera cuts to Taylor Swift, that's when it builds.
You go, that...
matt mccusker
That makes sense, though.
If you have a billionaire just laughing in your face while your team's losing...
shane gillis
And their team's incredible.
The Chiefs are incredible.
And then it cuts to her up there in a box.
They were in, like, Buffalo.
Everyone's outside freezing.
It cuts to them, like...
joe rogan
Oh, they're in a perfect heated box?
shane gillis
Yeah, I get it.
matt mccusker
I understand the hatred.
joe rogan
I feel like, out of respect, if you're going to see a Buffalo game in January, you should be outside.
shane gillis
You've got to get out there.
You've got to be in the snow.
joe rogan
Out of respect for the players, you'll feel it more.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, just bundle up, bitch.
Wear some muffins.
Fucking mittens and shit.
shane gillis
They were giving fans like $20 an hour to go shovel the stadium.
joe rogan
Yeah, I saw that.
shane gillis
It's incredible.
That was a crazy move.
joe rogan
That was crazy.
shane gillis
I can't believe they did that.
I can't believe no one died.
joe rogan
They could have easily died.
shane gillis
Just drinking and shoveling for $20 an hour.
joe rogan
Yeah, my friend Tommy just blacked out behind the wheel of his car shoveling.
He crashed his car and fucked himself up.
matt mccusker
I just laughed at my friend!
Snow shovelers and plow truck drivers get so fucked up.
When we were in high school, we used to get hired by landscapers in the winter to shovel and they would just feed us beer and weed.
We used to get people fucked up and stay up all night in a shovel condom and they give you like 20 bucks an hour and you're just like...
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
When I lived in Boston, we would always, whenever it snowed, me and my friends would go out to places and go, you guys want us to do your thing?
We'd negotiate a deal.
Do the driveway.
This driveway's 30. This driveway's 40. Depending on how big it is.
And some of them, you get fucked.
Like, some of them, you don't realize the snow's wet.
And it's a long-ass driveway.
You're an hour and a half in.
You're only a quarter way there.
shane gillis
You're like, oh, we fucked up, dude.
joe rogan
You're underpriced this one.
shane gillis
My friend owned a landscaping company and I didn't have a job.
I was living with my girlfriend at the time.
She was a teacher.
I was literally playing Xbox.
She was like, you gotta turn it around.
I was like, I'm gonna do comedy.
She was like, you're doing open mics at the Harrisburg Comedy Zone.
I was like, trust me.
unidentified
How old are you?
shane gillis
I was probably 25. Four.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
shane gillis
And then my friend owned a landscaping company, I had zero dollars.
I was not working at all.
And he was like, come help us shovel.
I was like, alright, nice.
I was there for ten minutes.
Put the shovel down.
I was like, bro, I'm going back home.
matt mccusker
It's grueling.
shane gillis
Yeah, I quit immediately.
matt mccusker
You're out all night, too.
shane gillis
Yeah.
matt mccusker
But you put your beers in the snow.
It's kind of nice.
shane gillis
That is nice.
joe rogan
Oh boy.
Just blasted, lifting chunks of snow everywhere.
shane gillis
I think I was like four beers in and I was like, I'll just go drink more inside.
matt mccusker
True.
shane gillis
Why the fuck am I out here?
joe rogan
I kind of feel bad for kids who grew up without snow.
Yeah.
That's a fucking pivotal moment in youth.
shane gillis
A snow day?
joe rogan
Snow days, and then just hanging out with your friends in the snow, and then the quiet.
Everything's quiet.
When it snows out, it's like you're in a movie.
You're outside, it's like...
matt mccusker
Sorry, my IQ's worn out.
shane gillis
It's the best.
joe rogan
Nothing.
No sound at all.
You guys know you got nothing to do?
shane gillis
LaMare fell yesterday.
I was like, but you couldn't hear him fall.
He fell behind us.
We were walking into the creek in the cave and he slipped.
And I was like, damn, he fell like snow.
Like, it was dead silent.
We didn't hear him fall.
He didn't make a noise.
Oh, we got the security footage.
I immediately got the security footage.
Look at him.
You gotta get the other angle.
joe rogan
That was fairly graceful.
matt mccusker
Yeah, I mean he lay there.
joe rogan
It seems like there's steps there.
Did he fall on steps?
shane gillis
He jumped over the curb and he stepped on the bottom of that pole.
joe rogan
Oh boy.
Boy, it doesn't take a lot to trip in.
matt mccusker
No.
joe rogan
Look at that.
Bro, he just goes down.
matt mccusker
He does go down.
You're sitting like snow off of a roof.
shane gillis
He couldn't hear a single thing.
joe rogan
Bro, he would suck at judo.
shane gillis
Don't tell him that, bro.
joe rogan
They'd just be tripping him all day long.
shane gillis
He prides himself on being nimble, so this is like a real...
joe rogan
No, he doesn't.
shane gillis
He was very sad about this.
joe rogan
Come on, really?
shane gillis
Yeah.
matt mccusker
I mean, everything was nimble before he fell, though.
He did like a little hop, like anime jump.
joe rogan
Oh my god, you have two angles.
Jamie, do you have that wrestling match where that dad attacks the kid?
jamie vernon
Again, I don't know if I have the right one.
Oh, dude.
shane gillis
Anyway, Snow Days rule.
matt mccusker
Yeah, they're nice.
jamie vernon
Is this the right one that you saw?
joe rogan
I don't believe so.
Let me see this one.
I think it probably had, but no.
matt mccusker
Damn!
joe rogan
Jesus Christ!
Oh my God.
See, that's what I'm talking about.
Look at this fucking guy.
jamie vernon
He dumped him.
shane gillis
Oh, let me see that mugshot.
joe rogan
Oh, he threw the kid down on his head.
matt mccusker
Oh, shit.
joe rogan
Wow.
shane gillis
Show the mugshot again?
That was a good one.
I wouldn't have expected that guy to move like that.
joe rogan
Yeah, he moved.
matt mccusker
That guy's nimble.
joe rogan
He's got a kid.
matt mccusker
How much of that do you think is protection of the kid versus like...
joe rogan
100%.
matt mccusker
You think it's all protection?
joe rogan
Yeah, he got dumped on his head.
See, watch how the kid goes down.
The kid goes down head first.
matt mccusker
It's like a tombstone.
joe rogan
See how the ref touches his head?
Because he's freaked out?
That's a bad landing.
Like, you could break your neck like that.
You definitely can get a concussion.
You might have had a concussion.
matt mccusker
Goddamn.
It's fucked up.
joe rogan
That's how Corellin used to beat guys.
Corellin used to literally hoist guys up and pound them into the ground.
Just pound them over and over and over again.
matt mccusker
Jesus Christ.
jamie vernon
It's an illegal move, but that's just a comment.
joe rogan
I think it is an illegal move.
But also, like, when you're lifting people up and throwing them and they're resisting, wild shit happens.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
But, you know, it does seem like he piledrived him on his head.
He seemed like he should have known in the middle of that move that you're not going to...
jamie vernon
You were talking about a choke or something?
joe rogan
Yeah.
The kid was apparently doing an illegal choke and the dad jumped in.
matt mccusker
It's also in that kid's defense.
If you have someone up in the air in a wrestling match, it's hard not to slam them in the ground.
shane gillis
Anytime you pick anybody up, it's like, oh, I'm going to slam you on the ground as hard as I can.
joe rogan
Well, I'm sure there's different rules in young amateur wrestling versus what they would do in the Olympics, but Corellon used to just pile drive people.
He just hoists them up, and he was a freak.
shane gillis
Dude, there's nothing worse than, like, the only experience I have is, like, football.
So it's, like, first play of the game, like, the guy against you just fucks you up.
And you're like, damn, this is gonna be...
Yeah.
It's a long game, dude.
I'm gonna get fucked up for two hours.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Like, wrestling, if a dude slammed you right away, you'd be like, alright.
joe rogan
They slam you.
shane gillis
What do you fucking call this thing?
joe rogan
And in MMA, they start punching you in the face while you're recovering from being slammed.
You know?
jamie vernon
I was looking for it.
There's a D'Arche choke pulled off in a wrestling match.
joe rogan
Yes, I think that is legit because it's one arm in.
I think that's the rule.
Oh, we put him out.
unidentified
Damn!
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
shane gillis
Damn, and he hit him with the fucking...
joe rogan
Matt Hughes choked out Ricardo Almeida with a wrestling move where he had a head and arm, like, from the front.
And he just, he has such a squeeze that he gripped the head and arm and just put him out.
shane gillis
The anaconda squares.
matt mccusker
And you're just cutting off their carotid, aren't you?
joe rogan
Yeah, you're cutting it all off.
unidentified
Oh, God.
With Matt.
joe rogan
That fucking tank.
When he was the welterweight champ, dude, he was a tank.
matt mccusker
Yeah, that shit sucks, man.
joe rogan
And for him to grab your arm and your head together like this, which is basically what he had, he had him on the side with his arm and head together and just squeezed it so hard he went out.
shane gillis
I was just watching.
Who's the Mongolian guy?
Uzbekistani or Kazakhstan?
Fuck.
He got a standing fucking...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, Rokmanov.
Yeah.
Shavka.
Yeah, he's a beast.
jamie vernon
I think that's what you're talking about.
shane gillis
He had a little brother headlock.
joe rogan
Yeah, see how the dad jumps in?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So the kid's on his back, and he rolls him over, and it looks like the kid's got a choke, but I can't tell if he's got an arm in it.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
He does have an arm in.
He does have an arm in.
He did have an arm in.
matt mccusker
He's like, my bad, my bad, that's my bad.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's banned for life.
That is it.
matt mccusker
He's banned for life.
joe rogan
Now, I don't know what the rules are, but it does look like the kid has an arm in.
He has an arm in.
See as they roll over?
See how his arm is under the arm?
shane gillis
Look at that fucking walrus ref, dude.
matt mccusker
Yeah, man.
joe rogan
Poor guy.
shane gillis
No, he looks like, yeah, diabetes.
joe rogan
That is a weird situation.
But, you know, dads fucking lose their cool.
matt mccusker
Yeah, well, there's also, like, when you're watching your kid, wrestling and combat's different, but, like, if you're watching your kid suck at, like, basketball or football, then you're, like, taking that personally, because that kid's supposed to, like, carry you on.
Yeah, this is your legacy.
shane gillis
It's also like that at the fucking dog park.
matt mccusker
Oh my god.
shane gillis
If your dogs are playing and a dog loses, people jump in.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
My sister jumped in.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Her dog was losing and she like jumped into the mud.
matt mccusker
I've punched dogs at dog parks.
I've had a dog grab my dog by the neck and I just...
joe rogan
Some people bring aggressive dogs to dog parks.
It's just not wise.
matt mccusker
I didn't know.
I didn't know what they were.
joe rogan
When my dog was a puppy, I used to bring him to dog parks.
He started fighting with dogs.
He liked it too much.
I'm like, no more.
matt mccusker
I brought Nikita to dog parks and those things are nasty.
joe rogan
You can't discourage that either.
It's a weird thing.
The dog fighting thing, unless you're a professional trainer and you're with that dog all the time, Like, you gotta be with that dog, and you gotta really do a really good job, if it's an aggressive dog, of getting them around, socializing them with other dogs, because they just fucking dominate each other.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just natural with dogs.
matt mccusker
Yeah, they do.
joe rogan
They bow up on each other.
shane gillis
Bow up.
joe rogan
They start growling like, God damn it.
matt mccusker
Everyone has a different tolerance threshold, too, because you go to the dog park, some people want them to get a little rough, and some people are like, not at all rough.
joe rogan
Exactly.
Well, if you're a woman and you got a poodle, you know, what the fuck?
shane gillis
Don't bring that thing around.
matt mccusker
Poodles are working breed.
A big poodle.
joe rogan
A real big one.
matt mccusker
A big poodle, yeah.
Those things are nasty.
shane gillis
What are they doing?
matt mccusker
They're big.
A big poodle.
shane gillis
What do they work on?
matt mccusker
Bird hunting, probably.
shane gillis
Poodles?
matt mccusker
Yeah, poodles are bird hunters.
joe rogan
Is that what they are?
matt mccusker
I'm pretty sure.
A big poodle.
Not a little...
You're like a little toy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I've heard they're actually good watchdogs, the big poodles.
matt mccusker
Dude, I'm telling you, the big poodles are not...
shane gillis
Everything the French do is so good.
matt mccusker
I was a dog walker, dude.
shane gillis
Every single thing, dude.
Imagine being like an aristocrat with a poodle.
matt mccusker
Dude, they're sexual dogs, too.
shane gillis
Everything the French do is sexual.
matt mccusker
Poodles are very sexual.
I used to dog walk, and I had a big black poodle I walked, and he tried to fuck me the whole time.
shane gillis
That was you, dude.
You were just looking at him like a good poodle.
joe rogan
Poodle originated in Germany in the Middle Ages.
A dog similar to today's standard poodle, the poodle's Germany's water dog, just as England had the English water spaniel, French had the barbet, and Ireland had the Irish water spaniel.
And the Netherlands, the Westerhund, among the evidence used to support this theory is the Germanic name for the breed Poodle or Pudel in German, which is derived from the low German word Poodlen, meaning to splash, water dog.
Numerous works by...
It makes sense that they have that hair.
Yeah, you're right.
It says right there, ancestors were widely used by water followers to both retrieve shot game and to recover lost arrows and bolts that had missed their mark.
Wow, they chased down...
shane gillis
How high were you when you hit the poodle Wikipedia?
unidentified
You were like, yo, they're poodles of water dogs.
matt mccusker
They were surprising me.
I kept seeing them in the wild and they kept surprising me.
I'm like, dude, these guys are not bullsies.
shane gillis
Yeah, they fly, dude.
They're athletic canines.
matt mccusker
They're motherfuckers, dude.
But then you start doing this bullshit to them.
That's a mockery, dude.
I hate that, man.
joe rogan
Why do they do that?
matt mccusker
That's what women want to do to us, dude.
unidentified
That's what they want to do to us.
joe rogan
That's what they're doing to us right now.
They are doing it.
matt mccusker
That's what they want to do to us.
joe rogan
We're getting away with it.
matt mccusker
No, man.
joe rogan
We've got to be pooting.
There's a bunch of scared guys and Andrew Tate.
shane gillis
There's only one man left, dude.
joe rogan
It's Tate.
matt mccusker
He's a Muslim now.
shane gillis
Only Tate can save us, bro.
matt mccusker
I know, man.
unidentified
Top G. He is the top G. Out of jail.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's doing supercar reviews on YouTube.
It's hilarious.
matt mccusker
That's tight.
joe rogan
And I don't think it's under the name Andrew Tate, but it is him.
shane gillis
Yeah?
joe rogan
You know, probably because they would ban him from YouTube.
matt mccusker
Right away.
shane gillis
Oh, shit.
matt mccusker
He can't get onto anything, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's him.
shane gillis
Why are they baring him?
joe rogan
He reviewed a Maserati.
It was a pretty funny review.
Why are they banning him?
matt mccusker
Let me tell you about the Matrix, my friend.
shane gillis
Why are they banning that guy?
He seems fine.
joe rogan
I mean, in Romania, he's under allegations of a rape charge.
Sexual trafficking.
matt mccusker
Yeah, and if you...
Trafficking's weird, too, because if you, like...
If I trick you into crossing state lines and then you get plowed, I've trafficked you.
But if I'm like, you're about to get plowed, and you get in my car and you get plowed, you're fine.
You know what I'm saying?
shane gillis
Yeah.
I've been tricked across state lines.
joe rogan
Okay, so he does have one.
It says the Cobra Mind.
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's his channel probably.
joe rogan
Okay, so there was another channel.
Maybe they were appropriating his content.
Maybe that's what it is.
jamie vernon
Likely.
joe rogan
Most likely, yeah.
matt mccusker
He's the most Googled man in the world.
shane gillis
It's funny to have a cobra's mind.
Is there a dumb fucking animal?
joe rogan
I know, right?
But he's a smart-ass dude, man.
Regardless of what he thinks about some of the things he said about women, the fucking intelligence of that, the whole thing that he did with getting people to TikTok his stuff and go viral.
matt mccusker
Yeah, he was fucking a genius at that.
joe rogan
Yeah, my 12-year-old was asking me about him.
matt mccusker
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt mccusker
What'd you say?
shane gillis
You said, that's the top G, baby.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, I said what I know about him.
I said he was a legit kickboxer.
I knew him as a kickboxer before I ever knew him.
shane gillis
Oh, wait, I didn't know he was like...
joe rogan
Oh, he was legit.
shane gillis
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's a legit kickboxer.
Very good kickboxer.
Yeah, he fought on Infusion a bunch of times.
Infusion was a kickboxing card from...
God, I'm not sure where.
I think it's from the UK. Sorry.
unidentified
Thanks, man.
joe rogan
My friend Vinnie Shorman used to do commentary for it.
matt mccusker
He was nice.
Yeah, he was a good fighter.
joe rogan
Solid fighter.
Really good fighter.
matt mccusker
I'm sorry, do you have a tissue, man?
My allergies are going crazy.
shane gillis
Yeah, my allergies picked up today.
matt mccusker
Going crazy.
Sorry about that.
shane gillis
We're finding out the negative parts of living here in Austin.
joe rogan
See your fever, baby.
That's what they call it.
shane gillis
It's already January.
I mean, this is...
jamie vernon
It's already been going on, yeah.
shane gillis
How long does this go?
joe rogan
Depends on who gets it.
shane gillis
I get it bad, dude.
joe rogan
Do you?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't get it at all.
Well, you're Top G. You're Top G. Yeah, everybody keeps telling me, one day you're going to get it.
I'm like, okay.
matt mccusker
Nah, you won't get it, man.
Fuck that.
joe rogan
I did one year though.
I had my throat was really sore.
I was like, this is weird.
shane gillis
What'd you do?
joe rogan
Lasted a long time.
matt mccusker
So nothing!
Allergies can make you like sick.
You didn't know it.
And it comes back.
Yeah, that's what got me.
joe rogan
Yeah, you feel like you have a cold.
So I think I did have a reaction one year to one particular thing that was in the air.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
Where I was like, what the fuck is going on?
This is a weird cold.
Because it didn't feel like I was sick.
shane gillis
It doesn't go away.
joe rogan
Also, it was a while.
shane gillis
It was a couple of weeks.
matt mccusker
Jamie's dog stuck his tongue in my mouth, so maybe I'm allergic to dog saliva.
shane gillis
You sure?
unidentified
Maybe.
shane gillis
Oh, damn, you're allergic to Carl.
unidentified
How could you be allergic to Carl?
matt mccusker
I might be allergic to bulldogs.
joe rogan
Oh, are you allergic to dogs?
matt mccusker
No, not at all.
But I've never had one put his tongue in my mouth, so I never...
jamie vernon
Your eyes are closing.
joe rogan
Yeah, but your eyes are...
You've got an allergic reaction?
matt mccusker
Yeah, his dog...
joe rogan
Are you sure you're not allergic to dogs?
matt mccusker
I think I might be now.
joe rogan
Do you have a dog?
matt mccusker
Yeah, I have two.
But they've never put their tongue in my mouth.
That's what I'm saying.
Like cat allergies.
joe rogan
You were making out with Carl.
jamie vernon
I was, right?
Check out his face.
matt mccusker
I'm having an allergic fucking reaction.
joe rogan
Look at Matt's face.
matt mccusker
It'll go away.
I'm also on steroids to get my voice back.
So my body's all fucked up.
shane gillis
Oh, you're on Roy's and you kiss the dog?
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
shane gillis
You're fine, dude.
The show has to go on.
matt mccusker
My eye is just sorry.
unidentified
I'm so sorry to make this all about me, dude.
matt mccusker
I just freaked out.
joe rogan
You're on steroids to get your voice back?
matt mccusker
I lost my voice, yeah.
joe rogan
For how long?
matt mccusker
I've been losing it.
I've been doing shows and I lose it every show.
So then I took the prednisone all weekend because I literally had zero voice.
joe rogan
Maybe there's a better way to talk.
Have you ever gone to, like, a vocal coach?
matt mccusker
No.
joe rogan
Because, you know, Be Real from Cypress Hill?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He told me he went to a vocal coach.
matt mccusker
I might go.
joe rogan
Because, you know, he's got that...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's got that very specific style.
He learned how to, like, use his...
So he didn't burn his voice out.
matt mccusker
I also sing in my car at full blast.
I've got to stop doing that.
I've got to stop doing that.
unidentified
That's what it is.
shane gillis
What are you singing?
joe rogan
It's like living on a prayer.
shane gillis
You're nice to sing it.
matt mccusker
I can't help it.
unidentified
What?
Amazing!
matt mccusker
I can't help it.
shane gillis
We might have watched it here when Matt sang at the holiday party at the mothership.
matt mccusker
Oh, yeah.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
What did you sing?
I forget.
matt mccusker
Unchained Melody.
joe rogan
We watched from the balcony.
shane gillis
It was incredible.
matt mccusker
Me and my wife were fighting and then we both had karaoke songs come up and I'm like, we don't have time for this, let's go sing our karaoke.
Then we made up.
It was nice.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
matt mccusker
Made up with karaoke.
shane gillis
Your eyes seem like they're getting better.
matt mccusker
They are.
It's going to happen to me.
joe rogan
I think it's the dog.
You just probably...
It's always in your...
You had to blow your nose.
matt mccusker
I did.
It was someone who was in my nose.
shane gillis
You got a kennel cough.
That's a new dog, dude.
You got a fucking weird dog disease.
matt mccusker
My body will fight it off.
joe rogan
Hopefully.
matt mccusker
My body will fight it off.
shane gillis
So far, it's losing.
matt mccusker
No, this is a healthy immune response.
This is a healthy immune response.
joe rogan
So what kind of steroids does it put you on for your throat?
matt mccusker
Pregnizone.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
Makes you feel weird, man.
joe rogan
A friend of mine had that for gout.
He had gout.
matt mccusker
Pregnizone's like a wonder drug.
Yeah, it works for poison ivy.
Pretty tight, yeah.
joe rogan
So did it fix it?
matt mccusker
Yeah, I mean, yeah.
I couldn't talk.
Like, I had no voice.
And it powered me through my last three shows, so I was like...
joe rogan
Were you trying to use your voice in the car singing even though you had no voice?
Were you pushing it?
matt mccusker
A little bit.
I did it today.
joe rogan
Oh, no!
shane gillis
You did it today?
What'd you sing today?
matt mccusker
I did a couple bars, dude.
unidentified
What'd you sing?
shane gillis
What'd you sing, dude?
matt mccusker
Everybody's talking by...
unidentified
Harry Nielsen.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
matt mccusker
I know.
I'm such a dickhead.
I can't, I can't help it.
I can't help it.
It hits me right in the soul, dude.
I'm like, I gotta get it out.
shane gillis
You gotta sing.
matt mccusker
I have to sing.
joe rogan
Do you ever go like Axl Rose?
Do you ever really fuck your voice up?
matt mccusker
No, I'll fuck my voice.
joe rogan
You try to hit those notes.
matt mccusker
That's not in my register.
Axl Rose.
joe rogan
Welcome to the jungle!
matt mccusker
I can't do the screams.
joe rogan
That'll fuck your voice up, man.
That'll fuck your voice up, man.
matt mccusker
Yeah, but you know, it is what it is.
It'll come back eventually.
I've had this problem for like three weeks straight.
Dude, don't.
Dude, Jamie.
shane gillis
People can't talk in there.
Matt, bless us.
unidentified
Can you hear me?
Only the echoes of my mind.
matt mccusker
Dude, I'm going to lose my voice.
joe rogan
Let's go, Matt.
unidentified
People stopping staring.
matt mccusker
I can't see their faces.
joe rogan
Dude, what are you doing?
unidentified
Hold me the shadows of their eyes.
matt mccusker
Alright, I'm done.
shane gillis
You've changed since you kissed that dog, dude.
joe rogan
You're singing?
matt mccusker
I'm a singer now.
Dude, you know the thing T-Pain did where he went on stage and just carried over?
I might do that.
shane gillis
At the end of the show, you should sing.
matt mccusker
T-Pain did his own songs, too.
He did a live performance where he had a full band behind him, did his own songs, and then just covered a bunch of songs, and then put them out on Instagram.
I'm like, dude, I might just start becoming a professional singer.
Fuck that.
shane gillis
You should sing at the end of your show.
People would love that.
matt mccusker
That's a good idea, dude.
joe rogan
There was a guy named Barry Dunn.
matt mccusker
Fuck, good call.
joe rogan
There was a guy named Barry Diamond.
He used to perform at the Comedy Store.
And a funny comic.
He was in that movie Bachelor Party with Tom Hanks.
Oh, nice.
So anyway, he would open up his set by singing Walking in Memphis.
matt mccusker
Really?
joe rogan
And you didn't know what was going on.
He did the whole song.
shane gillis
That's funny.
joe rogan
Dude, Walking in Memphis.
Because he had a great voice.
So he'd be singing it, and then he would go into his act.
matt mccusker
Pretty tight.
I had to sing one time.
shane gillis
That's crazy.
matt mccusker
Remember the comedy show I did?
unidentified
It was a little crazy.
shane gillis
What?
matt mccusker
I got booked for a private comedy show way, way, way long ago for...
It was like the American...
I swear to God, I think it was like Survivor...
Not the Survivors of the Holocaust.
It was like an old Jewish thing.
shane gillis
Jesus.
He sang at the Survivors of the Holocaust's benefits.
unidentified
It was like some sort of ancient Jewish people.
matt mccusker
It was ancient Jewish people when I bombed so bad.
joe rogan
Here's Barry Diamond.
matt mccusker
It's so nice.
joe rogan
This is going to be you, dude.
unidentified
I'll...
Dude.
Why don't you look down?
matt mccusker
So nice.
You gotta end with this though, this is crazy.
shane gillis
He's incredible.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
I mean, how do you follow that?
joe rogan
In the OR. And he would just go into comedy.
But he was like real silly as a comedian.
So it was funny to watch him go from that to like silly comedy.
shane gillis
What was the benefit you did?
matt mccusker
It was like some sort of old Jewish foundation.
I don't know what it was called, but I bombed.
The media?
I was standing at it.
The what?
unidentified
I was standing.
shane gillis
The central bank.
No, I'm joking.
I'm not anti-Semitic at all.
matt mccusker
I was standing up at a podium to do stand-up in a hotel.
I thought Jamie said that.
shane gillis
Jamie said that.
I can't believe Jamie said that.
matt mccusker
Dude, I was standing up at a podium to do stand-up, and I was like 25. And I bombed so bad, I was like, you guys don't like this at all.
And they were like, no.
And I was like, what do you guys want me to do?
And like, sing us a song.
I had to just sing.
I just sang them a song for a while.
I got like 175 bucks.
Thank God.
shane gillis
Do you remember that bachelor party we did?
joe rogan
What song did you sing?
matt mccusker
Hell is for the way you look at me, that song.
joe rogan
They asked for that one?
matt mccusker
No, that was the only one I knew.
I just let them have it.
joe rogan
Did they like that?
matt mccusker
They were pleased.
I can say factually those old Jews were pleased.
Tap dancing for them.
shane gillis
That's great.
Bombing so bad, you have to be like, alright, what's a different performance?
matt mccusker
You guys hate this.
joe rogan
What other art form do you guys like?
shane gillis
Just think about the power of dance.
That's wild.
To change genres in the middle of it.
matt mccusker
I had to switch it up on us.
joe rogan
I hate the early days.
Just switch to mime.
shane gillis
Just switch straight to miming.
Miming's hilarious.
joe rogan
I know magic.
matt mccusker
Magic rules.
joe rogan
I can juggle.
shane gillis
You can't follow magic.
How do you follow magic?
joe rogan
How do you follow magic?
You know the worst kind of comedy to follow is musical comedy.
matt mccusker
Yeah, that'd be tough.
joe rogan
If somebody does funny songs, you're fucking doomed.
You're doomed, son.
shane gillis
And it's frustrating, because a lot of times a funny song is just like an average joke, but somebody's playing a guitar with it.
joe rogan
There was a guy that was a legend in New England who used to do dirty jokes.
He used to be on Dr. Demento all the time.
But he used to do dirty...
God, I can't remember his name.
But he was like a famous guy who did like dirty songs.
And he would fucking sell out everywhere.
shane gillis
Yeah.
It's funny.
unidentified
That's awesome.
joe rogan
And if you did a show with him, you could never go on after him.
You were doomed.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You were fucking doomed.
You were gonna bomb.
shane gillis
Can you imagine if you had to follow, like, Wheeler Walker Jr.?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
No chance.
joe rogan
Yeah, because it's two things going on.
It's funny, and there's music.
shane gillis
And he's good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, he's good.
There's funny.
There's music.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's hilarious.
You could repeat it.
It's still funny.
matt mccusker
It also, like...
Joins a crowd together differently, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
matt mccusker
If you just play music, the whole crowd kind of congeals into the same.
joe rogan
Totally different vibe.
You go see a good concert, it's like you're fucking in tune with everybody, you know?
A really good concert when someone's killing it.
Yeah.
matt mccusker
And someone comes on, they're like, oh, I'm fucking jerking off.
And you're like...
shane gillis
You guys ever jack off?
unidentified
Yeah.
Shit.
matt mccusker
Shit!
unidentified
Just straight into it.
joe rogan
So my girlfriend broke up with me.
shane gillis
My girlfriend's a bitch.
You guys jack off?
unidentified
Fuck.
matt mccusker
Fuck, I'll sing.
shane gillis
That's actually extremely funny.
To hit the eject in the middle of a comedy set, just hit the eject button and start singing.
matt mccusker
They were visibly disproved.
They're old as hell.
shane gillis
The shows you do when you're starting is...
Me and him did a...
matt mccusker
Oh, God.
shane gillis
They hired...
Helium hired us to do a bachelor party.
Me and Matt just stood in front of a table of, like, nothing.
We went to a restaurant with the bachelor party.
And in the middle of dinner, they were like, alright, comedy.
We stood at the head of the table.
For like 10 people.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
shane gillis
It was fucking crazy.
And it was like a sober bachelor party.
joe rogan
Oh no!
That's what everyone said!
shane gillis
We had just started doing comedy.
We were bad at comedy.
matt mccusker
Oh no.
And I just did just material.
I went up there and did like straight 10 minutes of no mic material.
Just flatline.
I think Shane looked at me like...
I tagged you.
shane gillis
I was like, let's both do it.
matt mccusker
I'll help.
I was dying, dude.
And then, yeah, you went up and just did the sensible thing of talking and figuring out what's up with them.
shane gillis
Yeah, I was like, this is weird.
Why are we doing this?
Why the fuck would you guys hire me and Matt to humiliate ourselves?
I did a black lady Mother's Day show in North Philly.
This guy just hired me to do comedy in front of a brunch for just, for real, like 14 black ladies for Mother's Day.
Same thing.
I just stood at the head of the table.
It was crazy.
Just died.
And they were just being very nice.
They're like, you're doing great.
matt mccusker
That's kind of cool.
shane gillis
In the middle of just a Mother's Day brunch.
matt mccusker
Would you switch stuff up at all?
Oh no.
shane gillis
I was like, you guys like racism?
That's all I got.
matt mccusker
I got one pitch.
shane gillis
Alright, that's a ball.
matt mccusker
Yeah, those shows are very fun, though.
joe rogan
They teach you something, though.
What other art forms allow you to start out like that?
Where you realize there's no real structure to this at all.
In terms of how you can make money doing it.
How do you become a professional?
I mean, look, you guys are both like legit professionals now, and you started that way.
I did too.
shane gillis
Yeah, that's how it starts.
joe rogan
I did bachelor parties with no microphones.
matt mccusker
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I did a couple of them.
matt mccusker
Crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're terrible.
It's hell.
matt mccusker
I just figured out how it worked like three years ago.
I didn't know.
I thought for real.
I was like, you'll just do it.
And then someone would be like, here's a bunch of money.
I was like, no, you have to like sell tickets.
joe rogan
Bro, people still do corporate gigs.
They shouldn't do corporate gigs.
I ran into Adam Sandler at the airport.
And I was like, what's up?
What are you doing?
He's like, dude, I just did the worst fucking gig of my life.
matt mccusker
Really?
joe rogan
Because I popped so hard.
matt mccusker
He's just ripping corporates?
shane gillis
He's so bad.
matt mccusker
He just...
joe rogan
They just paid him a lot of money to do this thing.
matt mccusker
Yeah, true.
joe rogan
But he was laughing about it.
He's like, oh my god, it was terrible.
shane gillis
I bombed this week.
I bombed in the Little Boy.
joe rogan
Oh no.
shane gillis
I bombed so badly that I had people there with me.
We were going to go do something after.
And I was like, I'm going to do one show and then we'll go.
I stayed.
I was like, I got to stay for the late show.
joe rogan
You have to redeem yourself?
shane gillis
I did so.
I sweat.
I was sweating.
I bombed so fucking bad that I was sweating.
I was like, what is happening?
I sat on the balcony with Adam Eget and like, I was like, I gotta change everything.
The Late Show was fun.
joe rogan
Those are fucking good for you.
unidentified
They are, dude.
joe rogan
Some of my best moments in my comedy has been after really bad sets because then I just like really focus.
Go, God, I've been fucking up.
Something's wrong.
Obviously did something wrong.
shane gillis
Yeah.
I haven't done new material in a while.
I had to.
After that first show, I was like, alright, new jokes.
And it worked.
It was nice.
matt mccusker
Oh, yeah, you did some refreshers.
joe rogan
Comedy is just a wild fucking thing, isn't it?
Nobody can tell you how to do it.
Nobody knows exactly how you should do it.
shane gillis
And it's embarrassing.
matt mccusker
Bombs are good.
Bombs are good.
shane gillis
Bombing at a Mother's Day and then walking outside and it's 1pm.
matt mccusker
That's tough.
shane gillis
Dude, when you walk outside and it's still sunny after you bomb, it's crazy.
And you're in North Philly.
What the fuck am I doing with my life?
joe rogan
And you're thinking about your future.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because your future is not a given.
There's a lot of guys we started out with that are gone.
shane gillis
Yeah.
matt mccusker
Oh yeah, no.
shane gillis
Well it's also, that's the thing about comedy is where it's like with bombing.
Like, good comics will be like, yeah, you need that.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
So then there's guys that are just fucking bombing.
matt mccusker
True.
shane gillis
And they're like, this is part of the...
matt mccusker
All part of the process.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
It keeps them around.
matt mccusker
I bomb them.
I do like the dudes who bomb every fucking time.
shane gillis
They don't give a fuck, dude.
matt mccusker
It's kind of tight.
I mean, it's admirable.
shane gillis
There's bros that bomb for 10 straight years.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's not good.
There's a lot of fighters like that, too.
They just always get knocked out.
Yeah, that's not good.
You should find another thing to do.
matt mccusker
Yeah, true.
joe rogan
Or you're just not going to be good at anything.
That's also possible.
There's certain people that just never get good at anything.
matt mccusker
Get their thing, yeah.
joe rogan
Whatever it is, no matter what it is, they just lack something.
matt mccusker
That's fucking rough.
shane gillis
That's rough.
You're like, maybe I'll play video games if you just get fucking murdered.
joe rogan
They're really good at leaving comments on YouTube.
shane gillis
They actually are good at that, and I'll tell you what, those work.
Those are effective.
matt mccusker
Yeah, those dudes will absolutely shred you.
shane gillis
Fuck a week up for me.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt mccusker
I try to do a thing where I'm like, I understand your feeling.
In my head, I'll be like, he's just very upset right now.
But yeah, they'll get you thinking, like, it's not a thing.
Yeah, that's a bad...
Although they're like a part of the whole YouTube ecosystem.
Or like if you catch enough bad ones, sometimes you go, maybe I can think about something.
shane gillis
Yeah, maybe I am an asshole.
matt mccusker
Maybe I'll think about something.
Or, you know, I don't know, it's tough.
Because you don't want to be like, nobody can tell me shit.
But then sometimes you'll read them and you're like, I don't have to deal with this right now.
The thing is, you don't know who you're talking to.
joe rogan
You don't know who you're talking to.
You could be talking to the biggest fucking moron that works at 7-Eleven.
You could be talking to the biggest moron.
shane gillis
Of course.
joe rogan
And it's just like, you're like, fuck you, that's so true.
matt mccusker
Yeah, exactly.
joe rogan
It's just a waste of time.
matt mccusker
It's a total waste of time.
joe rogan
Just the numbers you're dealing with.
Just the sheer volume of people.
Even if you're just reasonably successful.
I mean, you don't even have to be regular.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, you don't even have to be like a headliner.
You could be just like a middle act that has a career.
shane gillis
You're gonna get hate.
You can get hate.
Yeah, you'll go through, you'll read all the comments, you'll be like, I saw him, his fucking opener sucked.
unidentified
Goddammit.
matt mccusker
Dude, it's...
shane gillis
Whatever his name was, I hated him.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're always gonna get those.
matt mccusker
Well, sometimes you can like have someone on the podcast and you just watch everyone like, fuck, that guy sucks so bad.
And you're just like, goddamn, bro, that sucks, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, if I was certain people, I would not want to read comments after their guests on podcasts.
matt mccusker
No, man.
joe rogan
You can tell when it fucks with their head, too.
matt mccusker
I think it gets everybody.
I think it gets everyone a little bit.
I think you maybe get better.
I'm better and better now.
I can take it now.
It's not as much of a shock.
But on any given day, I can read one in a minute.
shane gillis
That's what I think, yeah.
I'm like, I got it under control.
I'm fine.
matt mccusker
They come up with new ones.
shane gillis
And then you find one, and you're like, damn.
matt mccusker
They do come up with new ones.
You're like, I've never even thought of that before.
Fuck.
You sons of bitches.
joe rogan
It's part of that.
That's also part of the process, right?
Developing the ability to just not be affected by that.
matt mccusker
It's true.
joe rogan
It's like snake venom.
shane gillis
Yeah.
unidentified
You know?
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
Little doses of snake venom.
matt mccusker
Well, because you can also get conflicting messages that are like, awesome!
You're the fucking worst piece of shit in the world, and you're like...
joe rogan
Wait a minute.
unidentified
Yeah, you have to stop and be like, what am I? I'm probably somewhere in the middle.
shane gillis
Probably just an average fucking idiot.
joe rogan
Who's got better grammar?
Oh, the guy who likes me spells right.
matt mccusker
Yeah, that's true.
shane gillis
He doesn't write your fucking comma, dude.
This guy's on the ball.
joe rogan
He's on the ball.
matt mccusker
That's true, too.
If you see a lot of typos in the comments, you'd be like, dude, move on.
Go back to school, brother.
Get out of here.
joe rogan
You can't even spell.
What are you criticizing?
shane gillis
Matthew, would you please hand me a Bud Light?
matt mccusker
Absolutely.
shane gillis
Responsibly.
matt mccusker
Absolutely.
shane gillis
Wow.
What a fucking beer, dude.
Damn, dude.
Tell him about it.
I met the Clydesdales.
matt mccusker
Did you really?
joe rogan
You had to meet horses?
shane gillis
I had to meet some horses.
Then I got really responsible.
It was in New Orleans.
I got extremely responsible.
joe rogan
Around the horses?
Around the horses?
shane gillis
No, and then I called my dad, and he didn't answer.
It was late.
And I was like, I met horses.
I left him like a voicemail.
I was like, Dad, it was a good time in New Orleans.
I saw horses.
joe rogan
I met the Clydesdales.
shane gillis
He's like, Jesus Christ.
matt mccusker
Oh my God.
joe rogan
It's a big fucking horse, right?
shane gillis
It's the biggest fucking horse I've ever seen, dude.
matt mccusker
Yeah, they're jacked.
shane gillis
It's head was the size of me.
joe rogan
They're a lot bigger than bigger horses, right?
Clydesdales?
shane gillis
Clydesdales, especially the Anheuser-Bosch ones, they're gigantic, dude.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
shane gillis
And I'll tell you, they're big everywhere, if you know what I'm talking about.
joe rogan
Big cock.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
shane gillis
Distracting.
Distracting.
joe rogan
There it is.
Wow, that thing is huge.
matt mccusker
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Look at the size of that horse.
matt mccusker
Dude, it's head for real is a size of...
shane gillis
It's huge, dude.
You're a big dude.
b-real
That's like maybe people need to recognize.
joe rogan
How tall are you?
shane gillis
I'm 6'3".
joe rogan
So he's 6'3".
Look how big that fucking horse is.
That horse's back is like 5'10".
unidentified
That's insane.
shane gillis
It's crazy.
joe rogan
How much bigger are they than a regular horse?
Look at the top of his head.
shane gillis
Dude, their horseshoes, their shoes are like enormous.
A regular one's like that.
joe rogan
He looks so big.
Look at his head.
shane gillis
It's so scary.
joe rogan
His head looks like half of your body.
shane gillis
I brought Cam with me for this tour.
So it was me and Cam Patterson.
Alright, enough, Jamie.
Look at me being a fucking sellout, huh?
joe rogan
Uh-uh.
Please, dude.
Listen, man, you fucking love Bud Light.
matt mccusker
Yeah, man.
shane gillis
Me and Cam got in there, and they were showing us the Clydesdales, and there's a lady giving us the details of all the horses, which was obviously very interesting.
It's like how much they fucking eat and everything.
Literally, as soon as we walked in, we looked at that thing's fucking junk, and immediately we're like...
I'm trying to...
joe rogan
For real.
shane gillis
I'm trying to listen to this tour guide, and I'm literally standing there like...
It's fucking dick is big.
joe rogan
Oh my god, look how big.
Look at the size of it compared to a regular horse.
Holy shit, dude.
matt mccusker
Damn, dude.
joe rogan
Holy shit, they're so big.
That one that you showed originally, the lower left-hand corner, Jimmy.
Look at that one.
matt mccusker
Donkey, bro.
joe rogan
That's crazy!
matt mccusker
Holy fuck!
shane gillis
That's crazy how big that thing is!
They're always like, these horses are very gentle, they're the nicest horses, and I'm sure they are.
But when you're standing next to that thing, you're like, dude, that thing could do anything and I'm dead.
joe rogan
Is that a Viking horse?
Is that what the Vikings used?
What is that?
shane gillis
I have no idea.
joe rogan
Why was it so big?
matt mccusker
I don't know, because they're a German company.
joe rogan
Clydesdale?
shane gillis
Scottish.
joe rogan
Why are they so big?
matt mccusker
I'd love to know.
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, like, they must have select breed them to make them that breed, right?
matt mccusker
Yeah, what's Anheuser-Busch's horse division like?
You would think they're into, like, horse-raising and shit.
shane gillis
They got a ton of horses.
I don't know.
joe rogan
That's part of their business, is they keep horses?
shane gillis
Yeah, they have, like, a...
joe rogan
They didn't shoot any of them after everything went south?
shane gillis
They would never shoot the horses, dude.
joe rogan
I'm just wondering.
That's what happens when people go poor.
shane gillis
They shoot horses.
matt mccusker
Start eating them.
shane gillis
How dare you.
Not my company.
joe rogan
They fired a lot of people.
I was wondering if they shot any horses.
matt mccusker
Sure, just put them on a horse and smack the horse's ass.
joe rogan
It's a legit question.
matt mccusker
You know, Anizer Bush own the rights to diesel engines.
shane gillis
Bro, I know it's funny.
unidentified
It's such an expensive joke, dude.
joe rogan
Come on, man.
You brought Bud Light back.
shane gillis
The horses, yeah, they're very proud of those fucking horses, too.
Look, not to be a corporate shill, you see those Clydesdales, it's exciting.
You see them pulling the fucking Anheuser-Busch cart?
joe rogan
That's why they use them in commercials.
shane gillis
Yeah, it's a very exciting thing.
matt mccusker
So sick.
shane gillis
Look at that.
unidentified
Goddamn.
shane gillis
Didn't meet the fucking Dalmatian, though.
I was sad about that.
joe rogan
Bro, they didn't even look real.
They're so big, they don't look real.
matt mccusker
Yeah, it looks pretty hot.
joe rogan
Fucking crazy.
matt mccusker
Is that like a ceremony?
Is that like the ceremonial?
shane gillis
Yeah.
It was pretty cool.
At the end of Prohibition, they fucking rode those things right down Pennsylvania Avenue and gave the president a case of Budweiser.
unidentified
Wow.
shane gillis
Pretty sick.
I forgot how long Prohibition was.
matt mccusker
It was a while, dude.
shane gillis
It was like a decade at least.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
Isn't that crazy?
shane gillis
Everyone was getting wrecked, dude.
Isn't that crazy?
No one stopped drinking at all.
joe rogan
Dude.
But that's one of the few things that's ever been made like that that was rescinded.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
And Prohibition is the big lesson, too.
It's the big lesson also because of the rise of the Mafia.
Prohibition is the rise of the NASCAR. That came from it, too, though.
matt mccusker
Did it really?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those were cars that they souped up to get away from cops.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's the origins of NASCAR. Yeah.
matt mccusker
What?
joe rogan
Moonshiner, son.
matt mccusker
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
It is wild to think at the end of Prohibition, they drove and gave a case of beer to the President.
Like, think if they legalized weed.
joe rogan
Bring Biden some weed.
matt mccusker
And just drove Biden.
joe rogan
What if they give Biden weed and he just snaps out of it?
And he's like, oh boy, you know, I've just been so foggy.
But now I'm getting it.
unidentified
How the fuck did they let me be President?
joe rogan
I don't even know where my underwear are.
shane gillis
What the fuck?
matt mccusker
It's...
Yeah, it's crazy, man.
There's no way they can get it.
They can't be serious about running him again.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
He's going to be the president again.
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's going to be crazy.
matt mccusker
He's not going to win.
joe rogan
They're just going to keep him on testosterone and Adderall, and people are going to vote for him no matter what.
matt mccusker
Dude, for like...
shane gillis
He's fine, dude.
unidentified
He's fine.
joe rogan
It's going to be fun.
shane gillis
He's the best.
matt mccusker
So who's making that decision, though?
It's not him.
joe rogan
Me.
The government calls me.
They'll say, what do you think, Joe?
I'll say, yeah, run him again.
Let's see what's up.
matt mccusker
Yeah, see how he does.
This could be, his second term could really be a landmark.
That could be, like, historic.
joe rogan
He's gonna really come back around.
He's gonna make improvements.
matt mccusker
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Whatever, they're gonna get him on the right meds.
matt mccusker
For sure, they need to get him on something.
shane gillis
He's gonna bounce back.
He's gonna build back better.
matt mccusker
They should just keep him alive forever.
Start giving him, like, artificial body parts.
And he'll just be our Emperor Supreme.
joe rogan
I don't have any problems with anything you just said.
matt mccusker
Like, I don't know.
I don't know what we're doing.
We need someone to inspire us, man.
shane gillis
Yeah.
matt mccusker
I want an inspirational president.
I want to get pumped.
I don't have a picture of, like, my grandfather had JFK and he put him on his wall in his kitchen.
shane gillis
Yeah.
matt mccusker
I have no president to, like, I'm old.
shane gillis
If only there was a good Kennedy out there.
matt mccusker
Dude, that's what I'm saying.
I need to get that boy up there.
joe rogan
You like Bobby?
matt mccusker
Yeah, I love him, man.
I wanted to win so fucking bad.
Doesn't look like he's gonna win.
Why?
unidentified
I want him to win.
shane gillis
I want him to win so bad.
It's like, yeah, dude, I love the Temple Owls.
I think this year we're gonna win the national title.
joe rogan
He sent me this thing today.
shane gillis
No offense, Bobby.
joe rogan
On Ozempic.
Tucker Carlson had this guy who used to work for a pharmaceutical company on his show today, or the episode's out today, and a lot of it is about Ozempic, about how many people are being prescribed Ozempic.
matt mccusker
But they're handing it out like nothing, too.
joe rogan
It's kind of wild.
It's kind of wild because I think it's going to be one of the most profitable drugs ever.
shane gillis
Do they know what's going to happen to you after you take it?
matt mccusker
People have been taking it.
shane gillis
I got a feeling there's no way that works.
matt mccusker
That's what I'm...
Dude, people have been taking it for a long time.
They're like, oh, we've used this for diabetes.
shane gillis
I felt that way about literally every single...
matt mccusker
I know, dude.
shane gillis
Dude, SSR. People were like, you're depressed.
I was like, yeah, dude, definitely.
They're like, take this.
I'm like, no.
matt mccusker
They're terrible.
They turned out to be awful, dude.
The withdrawal from those things are catastrophic.
joe rogan
People have severe bio-intestinal sort of things happen with them if they have a bad side effect.
matt mccusker
Numb genitals.
joe rogan
Gastrointestinal.
shane gillis
Numb genitals?
matt mccusker
You can get numb genitals too.
joe rogan
Brian Simpson had a real bad reaction to it.
shane gillis
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, real bad.
shane gillis
That sucks.
Brian's sad.
joe rogan
Yeah, his stomach was just jacked.
But some people take it as no problem at all.
matt mccusker
Yeah, but when we try to get off of them, it's like...
You have like a headache and brain zaps for like a month.
joe rogan
What?
What do you want one, Jamie?
Ozempic burned off my genitals.
I found pieces of charred skin in the toilet.
unidentified
Maybe...
joe rogan
Maybe some other things are going on.
shane gillis
Yeah, true.
Fucking Ozempic.
joe rogan
Is that real?
jamie vernon
It's on the New York Post posted it.
shane gillis
Dr. Maria's pussy fell off?
joe rogan
Oh my god, she got severe burns and charred skin on her vagina, anus, and buttocks owing to once-weekly jabs.
She's a professor of pharmacology at the University of Texas Rio Grande Valley.
Pended testimonially on her ozempic use.
So she's obviously very smart.
matt mccusker
She said, Ozempic, toe that pussy up.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
She said, I checked my genitals, anus, and buttocks.
Oh, that's just Ozempic, man.
shane gillis
Fucking rocked my anus.
My anus fell off.
I took a shit.
matt mccusker
My anus fell off.
shane gillis
God damn it.
joe rogan
She said some areas had charred skin.
She said it was as if she was exposed to sunlight for days.
shane gillis
Why is she taking those out?
joe rogan
Because everybody wants to be skinny, man.
shane gillis
She looks great.
matt mccusker
I know a lot of people going on this stuff.
shane gillis
I'm not talking about this particular woman, but if you brought home a lady and she had a charred anus and vagina, You're like, what happened?
joe rogan
I used to be fat.
shane gillis
You'd go, alright.
joe rogan
She's thin and hot now.
unidentified
Here's a picture of me when I was 250. I'm like, whoa.
joe rogan
How'd you do this?
shane gillis
My butt fell off, but things are fine.
matt mccusker
We could do other stuff.
shane gillis
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
It would be mouth play.
unidentified
My holes fell off.
joe rogan
My holes rot.
shane gillis
My fucking holes fell off, but it's fine.
Are you into mouth play?
Mouth play?
Sorry.
unidentified
Bro.
shane gillis
I know that's not great, but saying mouth play and hand play is so funny.
joe rogan
What a side effect.
shane gillis
What are you fucking Googling, dude?
joe rogan
What are you doing, Jamie?
jamie vernon
I just keep going down the article.
joe rogan
It still hurts when I have to urinate or defecate.
It often starts peeling again because of the friction, said the survivor.
They're calling her a survivor.
Her lawyer might have wrote all those.
On a very strict diet, not taking any medication at this moment in time, but this will change in a few weeks.
Rosa, I want to heal before I start again with any medication.
And due to the strict diet, my level of glucose is thankfully under control.
shane gillis
She still supports it, which is nice.
joe rogan
She still laws the injections for lowering her blood sugar.
Well, that's what it's for, right?
It's a diabetes drug.
matt mccusker
Damn, that's fucking wild.
joe rogan
I think one of the side effects is like stomach paralysis or something like that.
jamie vernon
She had all of the side effects you guys just said.
Depression, gastro problems.
shane gillis
I'd be depressed, yeah.
matt mccusker
Yeah, dude, that's fucked up.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a weird thing, man, because it's like, yeah, you shouldn't be obese, and I think it's something like 50% of the country, Shane, wanna speak on this?
Speak on your people?
shane gillis
Fuck you, Joe.
matt mccusker
Yeah, it's rising.
It's gonna be...
joe rogan
Did you lose any weight doing the carnivore diet?
shane gillis
Yeah, the 12 days I did it, yes.
That was an easy one to fire.
Yeah, I mean, I had vicious diarrhea, so...
joe rogan
Shit my pants.
How was it?
shane gillis
I mean, me and Matt...
matt mccusker
It was crazy.
I did it with him.
It was fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Astonishing, right?
The diarrhea was astonishing.
matt mccusker
I shit my pants.
joe rogan
How many times?
matt mccusker
I shit my boxers once.
I was in bed and I shit my fucking boxers.
shane gillis
That's when you need to eat a bowl of rice.
matt mccusker
Yeah, dude.
shane gillis
You hit one diarrhea, you go, all right, I'm out.
matt mccusker
I was taking these little Hershey Kiss stuff.
joe rogan
Something happens, though, after a while, your body figures it out.
matt mccusker
Man, it was 16 days in.
joe rogan
It took me about two weeks.
I remember Tom Segura texted me, he said, this diarrhea is astonishing.
shane gillis
It is truly astonishing diarrhea.
unidentified
It was water.
shane gillis
You won't believe the diarrhea.
matt mccusker
I had water.
joe rogan
It was like black oil.
It was like oil water.
matt mccusker
But it didn't smell as bad.
It didn't smell that bad, though.
shane gillis
I don't know what was going on.
There was nothing in it.
It was water.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Vegans would tell you it's all toxins.
matt mccusker
Really?
joe rogan
Your toxins are coming out.
unidentified
Oh.
matt mccusker
Dude, I started missing big dumps.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think your body just...
shane gillis
Dumps are back on the menu, and I'll tell you what, I'm having the time of my life.
matt mccusker
Dude, I learned I'm a bit of a size queen, dude.
I didn't like those little fucking shirts coming up.
joe rogan
Little pebble dumps.
matt mccusker
Yeah, I was there bothering me.
shane gillis
I couldn't agree more.
unidentified
You need to get a fucking large dump, dude.
joe rogan
You should eat a lot of kale.
shane gillis
Just a horse pie.
I got some kale in the fridge, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, have a lot of kale before you eat your food, and you'll have a big, meaty dump.
unidentified
Well, that's...
matt mccusker
I told myself, I got off that...
joe rogan
All roughage, you know?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
All that roughage and fiber.
matt mccusker
I told myself, I'm just going to eat meat and vegetables.
I got off that diet.
I picked out so hard and gained all the weight back right away.
I was totally disciplined on it.
I'm like, alright, I'll add in veggies.
I'll be good.
Day one off of it.
joe rogan
How did you feel when you were on it?
matt mccusker
I felt good.
I did feel good.
I liked the keto.
shane gillis
I was a little lethargic the first couple days.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
shane gillis
The first night we did stand-up.
matt mccusker
Yeah, that was weird.
shane gillis
I'm like out of it.
matt mccusker
Felt a little weird.
But the keto stuff, I like the feeling, but I get like weeks into it, I start feeling kind of like loopy.
But I don't think I was eating enough either.
I was like...
I also got sick of...
shane gillis
Yeah, you get sick of eating meat.
matt mccusker
I get so sick of meat.
shane gillis
So you just don't eat.
matt mccusker
I made a rack of ribs and looked at them, and I was like, I can't, dude.
I can't eat them.
I was so sick of meat.
joe rogan
That's so funny.
matt mccusker
It was weird.
joe rogan
I have zero problem.
shane gillis
Having Lemaire...
Lemaire lives with me now.
That was not helpful for the diet.
Like 2am it'd be like, alright, I'm ordering pizza.
You motherfucker.
matt mccusker
Yeah, dude.
I was making pancakes in my house in the morning for my kids, just looking at them like, fucking Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
It's so weird how the most desirable foods are all terrible for you.
matt mccusker
I know.
joe rogan
They're most desirable.
Like a plate of lasagna, like smell it, you're like, ah.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ah, a good pizza right out of the oven.
Like, oh, gee.
Right when you're about to take that bite and you feel that warm cheese and the sauce.
shane gillis
I'm going to be honest with you.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
shane gillis
Me and Lemaire ate some DiGiorno last night while we were watching Cops.
matt mccusker
How was it?
shane gillis
Shit rocked.
joe rogan
So you get the frozen shit?
shane gillis
We usually don't, but, you know.
joe rogan
What's the best frozen...
What's the one that you could cook from frozen?
shane gillis
DiGiorno's fucking good.
joe rogan
Is it?
shane gillis
Yes.
It was...
Especially, I mean, if you're eating DiGiorno, you're...
joe rogan
You're a piece of chow.
matt mccusker
Yeah, true, true.
shane gillis
It's not going well.
matt mccusker
They kill more...
Those pizzas probably kill more people from the house fires.
shane gillis
Dude, you ever read the fucking nutrition's on this?
matt mccusker
From the house fires?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
matt mccusker
People get black out and put those things in the oven and pass out all the time.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
DiGiorno by the sea.
matt mccusker
Those things are like the leading cause of death.
unidentified
They didn't leave.
matt mccusker
They kill whole blocks of row rooms.
shane gillis
There's, for real, there's no, yes.
That has to happen nonsense.
joe rogan
How many of the people eating frozen pizzas are drunk?
What's the percentage?
shane gillis
If you're sober eating a frozen pizza, you're a fucking loser.
I'll be on the record for that.
matt mccusker
It's just pedophiles eating them.
shane gillis
Pedophiles are sober eating frozen pizza.
matt mccusker
If you're not kind of lit when you're eating one of those, you're a pedophile.
shane gillis
You gotta be high as fuck.
joe rogan
Have you ever tried to make your own pizza?
You ever do the pizza oven thing?
shane gillis
Yeah, I worked at a restaurant when we were doing that.
I'm not good at it.
joe rogan
But now you have a nice yard.
Like, maybe you get a little pizza oven.
matt mccusker
Ooh, a pizza oven would be nice.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Guys, I'm not doing anything.
matt mccusker
Your culinary journey is going to be amazing.
shane gillis
I'm playing Xbox until shows.
unidentified
I can see you.
joe rogan
It's not that hard.
I don't buy furniture.
I can see you with a ladle of sauce.
shane gillis
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Throwing the fresh mozzarella.
shane gillis
I'm never going to change.
joe rogan
The basil.
shane gillis
Push it in there.
I've accepted who I am.
joe rogan
With the Bud Light, watching it cook.
matt mccusker
Turning it.
Dude, cooking is a serious great joy of life.
Learning how to cook is a genuine great joy.
joe rogan
We gotta get you into making pizzas, bro.
shane gillis
Joe, you know that's the last thing I need.
matt mccusker
You can use non-GMO, organic, flour.
joe rogan
Get some Italy flour.
Some flour straight from Italy with no fucking herbicides in it.
shane gillis
Nah, I'm gonna play Xbox and DoorDash Chipotle and then go to the show.
That's it.
That's my schedule every day.
joe rogan
That's a solid option.
shane gillis
Fuck, the show's in eight hours.
unidentified
Fuck.
shane gillis
So soon.
That's cutting into all my doing nothing.
joe rogan
Are you ready to get back onto our workout routine?
shane gillis
I am.
I've been hitting you up.
I've been like, bro, I need you.
joe rogan
You came here once.
shane gillis
I need you, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, you need help.
shane gillis
I need someone to go, you have to do it.
When you tell me if you're like, I can't make it today, I'm literally, I'm waking up looking at my phone going, thank you, Scott.
joe rogan
I really like working out with you guys, but I also really like working out by myself.
matt mccusker
Going nuts, yeah.
joe rogan
For me, it's a good time where there's nothing going on, just me doing the routine.
shane gillis
You've been working out?
joe rogan
Yeah, of course.
shane gillis
You motherfucker.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
I always work out.
I'm not going to ever stop working out.
shane gillis
You've been saying I can't work out today and you're working out?
joe rogan
No, I said I couldn't do certain things.
I hurt my back for a little bit.
It wasn't bad though.
It was a muscle pull.
It wasn't anything to do with the spine.
I was doing this new exercise and I was doing it a little too heavy.
I tweaked something, but it was like a couple weeks later.
It was fine.
Now it's full.
shane gillis
I am ready to get back though.
I need it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Let's go.
joe rogan
Okay.
shane gillis
Alright.
joe rogan
Yeah, no slackers.
shane gillis
Yeah, I need it.
joe rogan
Brian Simpson likes to leave early.
Oh, I got a meeting.
shane gillis
Brian Simpson always has a meeting.
unidentified
He's got a meeting at 1 every fucking time.
joe rogan
Every fucking time we work out, he gets that one hour.
shane gillis
The sauna's the best, dude.
The sauna.
Dude, literally, he gets out 6...
unidentified
He's like, oh, fuck my phone.
Dude, you're such a dickhead.
joe rogan
I gotta take a piss.
shane gillis
Alright, I'll take a whiz.
I'll take a whiz right now.
joe rogan
Go take a whiz.
Good luck.
Thank you.
matt mccusker
I won't blow it, dude.
I'll be cool.
joe rogan
Don't bring up anybody in particular.
matt mccusker
I'll be cool.
Come on, bro.
joe rogan
We're fine.
We're not gonna talk about horses.
Is it the panic in his face when we're talking about shooting horses?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They are fucking impressive, though.
matt mccusker
They're fucking amazing, man.
joe rogan
I had no idea they were that.
I kind of knew, but I don't think I'd ever seen one next to a regular horse before.
matt mccusker
I did not know they were that big, either.
They're a dwarf in regular horses.
I'm scared of horses, man.
I got bucked off of one when I was little.
Oh, no.
I grew up next to...
I was one of six, and my cousins were one of ten.
And my dad and my uncle bought a piece of land outside of Philadelphia, like...
It was like a rural area.
It got built up now.
But I grew up next to like 10...
I had 10 cousins that we'd all just like fuck around.
Behind it, there was a guy who ran land off of us.
He had horses.
So I was always like, we'd cut through the horse place to get to the woods.
And like, dude, they'll charge you and shit.
They're scary.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt mccusker
I'm still to this day terrified of them.
We used to ride him, and the one just went nuts and just bucked me off, and I was like, fuck this, dude.
joe rogan
I mean, I get it.
I think riding him looks awesome, but whenever you're riding an animal, like, you're on an animal, like, hanging on to an animal, is this necessary?
matt mccusker
Yeah, and it's like, this kid, beside, like, fuck this guy, and this thing could kill me.
joe rogan
A friend of mine was in a trail of horses where they were going into this deep mountain elk hunt and one of the horses fell and broke its leg and they had to shoot it right then and there.
matt mccusker
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt mccusker
Oh, because they can't get it back.
joe rogan
They can't get it back, and they don't heal.
matt mccusker
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they shoot horses.
matt mccusker
Damn, I didn't know that.
joe rogan
When the horses break their leg, they shoot them.
matt mccusker
Jesus.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt mccusker
I didn't know they didn't heal.
joe rogan
They don't heal.
Yeah, they never totally heal.
And I think there's probably...
This was quite a few years ago.
It's probably methods that they use now.
Can they heal horses?
They definitely can't run again.
Like if it's a racehorse and they break their leg, that's it.
They'll never run again.
shane gillis
Damn, killing horses.
joe rogan
Yeah, they had to shoot this horse.
My buddy was on this wilderness trail and the horse fell.
It snapped its leg.
matt mccusker
They just blast it in the head.
joe rogan
Shoot it.
shane gillis
You even see that at the racetrack?
matt mccusker
No, they do.
shane gillis
If the horse breaks his leg, they'll bring out like a tarp on the track and hide it from the crowd and just...
joe rogan
Inject it?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Whoa, that's harsh.
shane gillis
I mean, I don't know how often they're still doing that, but that was just what they did.
matt mccusker
They probably do, yeah.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bones suck.
They break too easy.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
They break so easy.
They take so long to heal.
shane gillis
Yeah.
matt mccusker
It's ridiculous.
joe rogan
Such a shit design.
That's why we have to accept the new...
when we get AI. When you're gonna get a new body.
You're gonna get some titanium frame.
matt mccusker
That'd be sick.
When's that stuff coming?
joe rogan
Unlike humans, horse has heavy bones and light leg bones.
This is the way...
heavy bodies, rather, and light leg bones.
This is the way they've developed many breeds, especially the thoroughbreds.
When bones break, they may often shatter, and it's almost impossible to surgically reconstruct the fractured leg.
While humans have some large muscles and a bit of tissue below the knee that helps stabilize a broken bone, along with a cast, a horse has very little muscle and hardly any other tissue besides tendons, ligaments, blood vessels, and some nerves below the knee.
Oh, wow.
The lack of muscle and other tissue means that even in a cast, the broken bone has little to support it, and it's much harder to prevent a horse from using its broken leg to bear weight.
Wow.
matt mccusker
Kill it.
joe rogan
So they have to shoot it.
matt mccusker
Gotta kill it.
joe rogan
Wow.
jamie vernon
They've figured out some stuff, but that's why.
That's been the most common way to handle it.
joe rogan
Compound fractures where a broken bone penetrates the skin have a much poorer prognosis and are less likely to heal successfully without complications.
Are likely to be euthanized, particularly if blood supply to the leg has been compromised.
So it says repaired.
The less complicated the fracture, the more likely the horse will recover.
Oh, so there are some that recover.
Green stick and stress fractures are incomplete fractures, and these can usually be treated successfully.
Simple fractures where there's one clean break are more likely to heal successfully than shattered bones.
matt mccusker
Nah, you gotta kill him.
shane gillis
It stinks.
matt mccusker
Gotta shoot him.
unidentified
Damn, you guys bringing up euthanasia- Imagine tearing a ligament 500 years ago.
matt mccusker
You're dead.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Even during the Bobby Orr days, back in those days, Bobby Orr used to work out at this gym that I worked at when I was 19. That's awesome.
And he walked in and he couldn't straighten his legs, so he had to walk with legs permanently bent.
And he would play like racquetball.
That's one of his knees.
matt mccusker
What the fuck?
shane gillis
Bobby Orr, number four.
joe rogan
Bro, they just cut his knees all over the place.
matt mccusker
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Just covered in scars.
Back then, man, the surgeries were terrible.
Yeah.
And you didn't really recover.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're never really the same again.
matt mccusker
Yeah, if you like pull your meniscus and you're like a hunter-gatherer, they'll just probably leave you.
Probably fucked.
joe rogan
Yeah, you just walked through it.
You just dealt with excruciating pain.
shane gillis
Nah, I'm fine.
matt mccusker
Yeah, true.
Yeah, maybe that too.
joe rogan
You just dealt with excruciating pain forever.
matt mccusker
Fuck, that sucks.
joe rogan
Yeah.
If you were lucky, if you weren't lucky, you'd get eaten by a jaguar.
shane gillis
Yeah, a cat.
joe rogan
Yeah, a cat fucking snatches you up by your neck, drags you up a tree.
matt mccusker
Yeah, dude, that was the majority of human history was just brutal, violent death.
joe rogan
Well, that's why people...
matt mccusker
All day, every day.
joe rogan
Little kids are scared of monsters.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
What experience do they have with monsters?
matt mccusker
No, they know.
joe rogan
That represents animals that'll eat you.
It represents wolves.
matt mccusker
Yeah, it's instinctual.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt mccusker
Baby turtles are scared of hawks.
joe rogan
That's what's going to happen to us again in about four years.
matt mccusker
What's gonna happen?
joe rogan
Wolves.
Wolves everywhere.
No electricity.
Small packs of people.
matt mccusker
Isn't that gonna be kinda cool though?
joe rogan
Banded together, running out of bullets.
shane gillis
No, that's gonna blow.
matt mccusker
I think that would be kinda tough.
shane gillis
Second the grid goes down, I'm fuckin'...
joe rogan
You have no idea how bad it's gonna be.
matt mccusker
It's gonna be bad, but like, dude, you get your juices...
Here's the thing, you're not gonna be like...
Bored and like, what's the point?
shane gillis
I'm gonna kiss you.
joe rogan
First of all, there will be no podcast.
shane gillis
If the power goes out of my house, I'm going to your room.
matt mccusker
Get in here.
shane gillis
I'm gonna break down that door.
matt mccusker
I'm gonna get a generator.
shane gillis
You better.
matt mccusker
I need one.
shane gillis
You better charge that thing, because I'm coming.
joe rogan
Just imagine if just...
Maybe life stays exactly the same.
They figure out a way to get us food, they figure out a way to get us gasoline, but there's no electricity.
You can drive around, but there's no electricity, no social media, no internet.
shane gillis
So the 80s.
joe rogan
Just imagine that right now.
Imagine that right now.
shane gillis
That'd be nice.
joe rogan
But the world would be in a fucking turmoil.
No one would know what to do.
matt mccusker
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
What do I do?
What's real?
What's going on?
I gotta read the newspaper?
What?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's no electricity, so you can't even watch TV? There's no TV at all?
matt mccusker
We should try it for like a month.
Have like the whole country just go off for a month.
joe rogan
Yeah, they wouldn't even be able to do the newspaper because they don't have the machines to do the newspaper like they used to do it before the electricity.
So they wouldn't even have the newspaper.
unidentified
Yeah.
matt mccusker
Well, they're clamping down on Facebook and stuff now again, I think.
They've been trying to like get them forever.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
matt mccusker
What are they trying to do?
Like the government's like...
I don't know if it's like a political ploy.
joe rogan
If I would guess, if I was the government and I was looking at social media, I would say a couple things.
One, if you're protecting people.
The thing that's valuable, no one knew was valuable.
Everybody consented to give away their information, but nobody ever thought data was a commodity.
That had never been a thing in human history.
The data was insanely valuable, and then the people who have that data now, with all that money, have this insane ability to donate.
What are you doing, Jamie?
jamie vernon
I'm showing you what they're suing them for.
joe rogan
More than 40 states and districts of Columbia filed lawsuits against Meta, the parent company of Facebook, Instagram, and WhatsApp.
Dictionary.
Facebook and Instagram deliberately manipulate their apps in ways to addict kids and teens and have failed to keep them off despite age limits.
Here's the thing, though.
Why is it their responsibility?
Just like why is it Pornhub's responsibility to make sure that you're 18?
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you have a kid, it's supposed to be your responsibility to see what the kid's doing, right?
But how are you gonna...
Unless you have to use your ID every time you sign up and they have to verify your age.
shane gillis
They do that in Louisiana.
joe rogan
Do they?
shane gillis
Yeah, I tried to jack off in Louisiana.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
Utah, you can't even get on.
Utah, you can't even get on.
Yeah, you can't get on the sites in Utah.
shane gillis
I found a site.
matt mccusker
Well, I mean, you dig up some OG sites.
shane gillis
Boobs.com.
matt mccusker
You have to dig up, like, the OG porn sites, yeah.
shane gillis
Yeah, I had to dig deep.
And I'll tell you what, you go to those fucking off-the-grid porn sites.
joe rogan
You don't use a VPN? No.
matt mccusker
You should use a VPN. Oh, that's a good idea, actually.
joe rogan
Yeah, you should use one.
matt mccusker
That's a great idea.
joe rogan
ExpressVPN.
Easy.
One click.
It's a sponsor.
shane gillis
Nice.
joe rogan
Easy to use.
Yeah, you can pretend you're in fucking Hawaii.
You can pretend you're anywhere you want.
shane gillis
Ooh, do you think I can use it to bet somewhere else, maybe?
Not just...
I don't know.
joe rogan
I know that people use VPNs.
shane gillis
I'm going to use it to bet somewhere else.
matt mccusker
There are sponsors.
joe rogan
I know people have used it to collect Pokemons.
shane gillis
I'm going to look up all types of stuff.
matt mccusker
To collect Pokemons?
joe rogan
Yeah, they've collected Pokemons in places where they weren't really there.
I know people have used VPNs to bypass countries.
Like, you know, Netflix is like United States Netflix.
You can go to UK Netflix.
You can go to Asia Netflix.
You can go to whatever you want.
matt mccusker
That's pretty cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's pretty cool.
matt mccusker
Fuck.
I think they're our sponsor too, actually.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Shit, I love them.
I'll never bet somewhere else.
joe rogan
That's another thing that was like impossible.
Now it's everywhere.
Betting was impossible back in the day.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
shane gillis
Like fucking ten years ago.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
My dad was a...
matt mccusker
Everyone did.
shane gillis
What am I doing?
I was going to snitch on my fucking dad.
matt mccusker
Almost.
shane gillis
What the fuck am I snitching on him for?
joe rogan
There was a whole MMA organization that existed before betting went down.
And I think part of their business model was betting.
It was Bodog.
They had some big fights.
They had Fedor fight for Bodog.
Jorge Masvidal fought for them.
Some big fighters.
I think Chael Sonnen fought for them.
And they had fights on a beautiful beach in Costa Rica with hot ring card girls walking around.
And they had the fights outside with world-class fighters fighting outside.
That's crazy.
And I'm pretty sure that was the business model.
It was about gambling.
matt mccusker
That makes sense.
shane gillis
I saw it coming.
England had it before us.
I watched soccer and, like, soccer team's jerseys would have just, like, bet.com on it.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's coming.
joe rogan
There was another thing, the International Pool Tour, they had a similar situation.
They had this big, like, multi $100,000, like $300,000, $400,000 for the winners for these tournaments, which is huge for pool players.
But it was all about online gambling.
And then the online gambling, they killed that.
They put the kibosh on that.
matt mccusker
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, they fucked up everything for just telling people what they can and can't gamble on.
It's like my same feeling about this meta thing.
It's like, I get it.
Yeah, the algorithms are designed to keep you engaged, but they keep you engaged with what you're interested in.
That's the thing.
It's like they're saying they're shoving you only news from one source.
Yeah, but that's not their responsibility, I don't think.
They're not a news distributor.
If you're only into QAnon, they're going to send you fucking QAnon shit.
matt mccusker
You're going to get a lot of QAnons.
shane gillis
I mean, I'm sure we've talked about it before.
Something happened with the algorithm lately.
matt mccusker
What's going on?
shane gillis
I don't know.
I mean, it's...
joe rogan
Oh, with the violent stuff?
shane gillis
All this stuff.
matt mccusker
Oh god, with that stuff.
joe rogan
They're just tossing it in.
matt mccusker
I don't get it.
Instagram doesn't come to me now.
shane gillis
I'll start sending it to you.
joe rogan
Oh, I'll send it to you.
I'll put you on the one that me and Segura are on.
shane gillis
I don't want to see that.
Segura has done that to me like twice.
joe rogan
He and I do it every day.
We do it every day.
shane gillis
The second you see Arabic in the fucking description of the video, the caption, I'm like, I'm not.
joe rogan
Bro.
shane gillis
No.
joe rogan
I've seen so many people get shot.
matt mccusker
Really?
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
Oh my god, over the last month, I've probably seen a hundred people get shot.
shane gillis
No bullshit.
Factory workers?
joe rogan
Multiple times a day.
Oh, factory workers getting crushed to death.
unidentified
Horrible.
matt mccusker
Oh, you're seeing the industrial accidents?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
unidentified
You don't know.
shane gillis
Crazy industrial accidents.
joe rogan
Buildings falling on people.
Like, falling on them.
People sliding in a scooter under a truck, getting dragged by the truck.
Everything.
You name it.
Guys getting cut in half by trains.
Their buddies pulling the arms.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's no good.
The entrails are hanging out.
Yeah.
No.
matt mccusker
Oh, God.
joe rogan
There's so much.
Just like he threw his friend under the bus and he fell over and over again.
LaMare.
People are doing that.
On Instagram with horrible shit.
shane gillis
Last night, he was like, oh no.
As soon as I got in the club, I was like, I need security footage.
And then he was like, oh no, everyone's gonna see me fall.
And I was like, I'm doing Rogan tomorrow.
unidentified
He was like, oh no!
I was like, 10 million people at least.
matt mccusker
It adds to his charm, though.
shane gillis
Yeah, that's what I was telling him about.
He's the funniest guy ever.
joe rogan
Everybody's shit their pants and everybody's falling.
matt mccusker
Exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah, I shit my pants just last week.
matt mccusker
Really?
joe rogan
I thought I was gonna fart in my house.
I felt it come out wet.
I was like, you son of a bitch.
shane gillis
You know what, sometimes that's kind of nice, though.
You get a midday shower.
joe rogan
I was on my way out the door.
I was on my way to do a podcast.
Shit my pants.
shane gillis
Shit your fucking pants.
unidentified
Goddammit.
joe rogan
Rinse them off in the sink.
matt mccusker
Yeah, I'm usually good about shards.
shane gillis
Yeah, I guess you have to.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt mccusker
Yeah, true.
I usually can, like, sometimes I surprise myself.
I'm like, I definitely shit myself.
And I'm like, no, I didn't.
joe rogan
Bro, one time I was coming home from Fear Factor.
I just have a sweaty ass.
shane gillis
And I farted.
joe rogan
One time I was coming home from Fear Factor, and I just, I was fighting it.
I was fighting it.
shane gillis
You let it go?
joe rogan
There was a battle.
shane gillis
You let it go?
joe rogan
It was like, oh god, it was cramp.
And I just filled my pants.
I mean, filled.
I mean, filled.
Like, where I immediately felt it in my socks.
Like, right away.
I was like, oh, good lord.
I mean, it rocketed out of my asshole.
The underwear was about as effective as our border wall.
It went down my legs.
I felt it in the back of my legs instantly.
I was like, oh, Christ.
It was an explosion.
I was holding back as long as I could.
shane gillis
And you released it.
joe rogan
It was like hanging off of a bridge.
And you realize you can't pull yourself up.
shane gillis
You just let go.
You go, that's it.
matt mccusker
Where were you?
How far from your house?
joe rogan
I do not remember.
I just remember being in my car and just unloading on my SUV seats.
unidentified
Oh!
joe rogan
I had a Lexus SUV. I just filled that front seat up with shit.
matt mccusker
How did you clean that out?
What was the process?
joe rogan
I took it to the car wash, bro.
I cleaned it out myself and then I brought it to the car wash to get it detailed.
I didn't tell them I shit myself.
unidentified
What the fuck, dude?
joe rogan
The Fear Factor guy just gave us a shitty truck.
matt mccusker
Hopefully he had leather seats, man.
Leather seats.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, they were leather.
shane gillis
That's good for dumps.
unidentified
Cloth.
joe rogan
A lot better than cloth, bro.
It gets in that foam.
matt mccusker
That's what I'm saying.
It never comes out.
unidentified
It's over.
joe rogan
Do-do in your foam.
shane gillis
It's over.
joe rogan
You gotta cut that foam out.
matt mccusker
Dude, if someone throws up in your car, it smells forever.
unidentified
It's over.
joe rogan
You gotta burn it and say, oh, it caught on fire.
Bring it to the dealership.
matt mccusker
I did not shit myself.
joe rogan
I definitely didn't shit myself, but I caught my front seat on fire.
matt mccusker
My friend shit himself at work when we worked together and he drove home like sneakily to like change his pants.
We were like younger too.
We were in high school.
And his mom was outside and she was like, what are you doing?
He's like, I shit my pants.
unidentified
And she made him get undressed and host them all outside.
shane gillis
Oh my god.
He was like, it's so fucking embarrassing.
Yeah, it's as embarrassing as it gets, dude.
Getting hosed by your mom because you shit your pants.
matt mccusker
Your mom's clean after half.
joe rogan
Garden hose.
shane gillis
He was poured into the driveway.
joe rogan
She's getting thumb on it to make it blast.
unidentified
She's getting thumb on it.
joe rogan
It's really focusing.
unidentified
Cleaning on the...
shane gillis
You gotta just...
You gotta just stand there.
I know, Mom.
matt mccusker
Hose water's fucking freezing.
shane gillis
It's cold.
matt mccusker
He said he was in his driveway, saw his house, and it just lost...
He's like, I lost it, dude.
shane gillis
At the goal line.
unidentified
At the goal line.
joe rogan
Breaks his leg like a Clydesdale.
Oh.
shane gillis
At the goal.
I mean, that is where it gets you the second you...
joe rogan
I wasn't even close to my house.
I drove with the windows down smelling my own shit for a solid 25 minutes.
unidentified
Oh my god, dude!
matt mccusker
What was going through your head, though?
Like, did you accept it?
Were you like, this is unacceptable?
joe rogan
Yeah!
I shit myself!
I'm like, what are you gonna do?
I had ruthless diarrhea, whatever the hell was going on.
shane gillis
Yeah, you sick?
joe rogan
Yeah, it must have been.
I don't remember.
All I remember is that feeling, the feeling of, like, knowing you're gonna lose.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm gonna have to tap out.
I don't know if I'm blacking out.
I feel it.
matt mccusker
It feels so good though, dude.
That was horrible.
Just give in and be like, fuck.
joe rogan
If I had made it to the toilet, it would have been amazing.
matt mccusker
Dude.
joe rogan
It would have been one of the greatest victories of my career.
shane gillis
Matt gave me a bunch of micro-dose mushrooms.
matt mccusker
Oh, yeah.
shane gillis
Took more than I should, and I was just on a walk.
I was like, I'll just have a nice walk around New York.
Dude, I got like two blocks away, and I was like, my stomach just went, and I was like, dude, I sprinted home.
I sprinted up.
Tommy was downstairs and heard me run up the steps, and he was like, what the fuck was that?
joe rogan
I've got some great victories in my shitting career, too.
shane gillis
Yeah, that was one of the biggest victories I've ever had.
unidentified
When you get to the ball, you're like, oh!
shane gillis
The key works at the front door.
You're like, yes, yes.
joe rogan
You keep those muscles tight until you get to the ball, and you're quivering when you're pulling your pants down.
matt mccusker
Oh, God.
joe rogan
You know those when you're like, I don't know if I'm going to make it.
matt mccusker
Your teeth get all weird.
unidentified
At the buzzer.
joe rogan
The three-pointers in the air.
shane gillis
It's Dave time, dude.
matt mccusker
I got jammed in an Uber on the way to the airport.
It was like 6 in the morning, and it just, all of a sudden on the way, I was like, oh, fuck.
And I had like 20 minutes, and I was in the lady's car, like, sitting on one ass cheek.
It was so bad.
I had to look my ass up, and I was just letting out these, like, any fart could have been anything.
And I was like, I wanted to tell her, like, I'm sorry.
I was farting in the back of her car.
joe rogan
I could not do it.
matt mccusker
I had to release pressure.
joe rogan
And you're sitting sideways.
unidentified
She looks back!
shane gillis
Did you say sorry?
matt mccusker
No.
joe rogan
She looks back at your launching.
I was at Terminal C. You're in the sideways launch position.
matt mccusker
I was at Terminal C, and I'm like, Terminal A's fine.
I was like, where are you going?
I was like, Terminal C, and I got there.
I'm like, Terminal A's fine.
shane gillis
Damn, you jumped at the airport at the...
matt mccusker
At the entrance, where all the homeless people go in, because anyone can get in.
I made it, and I sat down.
I saw there was no toilet paper, and I went, fuck it, and I had to just let it out.
shane gillis
What'd you do?
matt mccusker
And luckily, dude, I went in my school bag, and my wife gave me...
Packet of Kleenex.
I saw them put it in my bag like weeks ago.
I'm like, dude, I don't leave that fucking shit in my bag.
She threw it in my bag and I went, what an angel.
Pulled the Kleenex out, wiped my ass out.
shane gillis
Woman's intuition.
unidentified
It was.
shane gillis
It's a shit-to-ish.
matt mccusker
It's a woman's touch.
joe rogan
Bro, after using these robot toilets to clean your butt, I get sad when I have to just wipe it.
Because I know it's gross.
matt mccusker
It sucks, dude.
It's gross.
joe rogan
You're just smearing shit all over yourself.
unidentified
All the way up.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're like rubbing it to the point where you look at the tissue and it's reasonable.
That's reasonable.
shane gillis
There you go.
Oh, fuck my ass itches.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
The bidets are so nice.
joe rogan
I got to put one on.
unidentified
Oh, so nice.
matt mccusker
I bought one from my old house and I tried to connect it and the fucking water sprayed everywhere so I got to hire a professional.
joe rogan
Yeah, hire somebody.
matt mccusker
Yeah, I gotta get a bidet.
It's so nice.
Dude, in the fucking bathroom in the comedy club.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's nice.
Dude, we didn't have one for a while.
shane gillis
You've been shitting in there, dude?
unidentified
Yes!
shane gillis
You've been shitting in the one bathroom?
matt mccusker
I shit every time I do stand.
I can't help it.
joe rogan
There's a button that says defecate.
You ever hit that button?
matt mccusker
Yes, brother.
I've hit all the buttons.
joe rogan
Really?
That's a pipe cleaner.
shane gillis
I haven't dumped there, I don't think.
joe rogan
Bro.
matt mccusker
Dude.
joe rogan
What does it say?
North America through the 1700s, people were still wiping whatever they had on hand.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Most common things were corn cobs and sea shells.
matt mccusker
Pause on the corn cobs.
joe rogan
They scraped their asshole with sea shells.
unidentified
Seashells?
joe rogan
But by the 1800s, paper was becoming more widely available.
matt mccusker
Yeah, magazines!
joe rogan
And finally, in 1857, a New Yorker named Joseph Gayety introduced the first patented toilet paper.
matt mccusker
Boss.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
1857. So until 1857, everyone was just, the Romans cleaned it behind the sea sponges.
shane gillis
That's nice.
That beats the fuck out of a seashell.
joe rogan
Attached to a stick.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
Yeah, a lot of places in the world keep like a dish of water.
In the Middle East, you keep a dish of water above your toilet and use one hand to like splash water on your ass.
unidentified
Huh.
joe rogan
I think that's the move.
The move is the sponge.
If you use the sponge, then you can clean the sponge off.
You can reuse it.
It's green.
Can you throw the sponge away, Jamie?
jamie vernon
There's a pile of sponges in the toilet.
joe rogan
No, no, no.
unidentified
You clean your sponge, you piece of shit.
joe rogan
Everybody gets one sponge.
jamie vernon
It goes with your voter ID. It's a sea sponge.
matt mccusker
Go get another one.
joe rogan
You don't have to put it on the end of a spear.
You hold it in your hand like a gentleman.
matt mccusker
They would get old, though.
joe rogan
It's like you're buffing.
When you're buffing your hood.
Just buff your asshole with a sea sponge.
shane gillis
A sponge actually, that is nice.
matt mccusker
That seems like a good move.
shane gillis
A thing for your car would feel great on your ass.
I might test a sponge.
joe rogan
So you have a toilet, and right next to the toilet, you got like a basin, and the water's flowing.
You dunk your sponge in there, clean it out, uh-huh.
matt mccusker
It's a nice sound, too.
shane gillis
It's not bad.
matt mccusker
It's water dripping in.
joe rogan
Unless you just got a mess.
Chunky, thick, frozen yogurt.
You're never getting it out of sponge.
It's deep.
It's all over your ass cheeks.
You're wiping your legs.
matt mccusker
It's all the way up your back.
joe rogan
It's dripping down your legs now.
What the fuck did I do?
jamie vernon
You're used and shared by fellow butt wipers.
joe rogan
Oh, they were used and shared.
jamie vernon
You don't have your own.
joe rogan
Of course.
Why would you have your own, Jamie?
shane gillis
Yeah, it's fucking Rome, dude.
joe rogan
Okay, so if one of the Farika visitors had intestinal worms, all the others would carry them home, too.
Without any knowledge of how diseases spread, the overall Roman toilet setup could hardly be called hygienic by modern standards yet.
matt mccusker
You know how they told me to test kids for worms?
They said, put a piece of scotch tape on your kid's butthole while sleeping, and the worms come out of the butthole at night, and they'll get stuck in the scotch tape.
unidentified
What?
matt mccusker
Yeah, I had a doctor tell my wife this today.
shane gillis
Don't you have to shine a light on your kid's asshole to see the worms coming out at night?
I heard that story.
matt mccusker
They want us to put Scotch tape on the b-hole.
jamie vernon
Mayo Clinic says to do that too.
joe rogan
Press the adhesive side of a piece of transparent tape to the skin around the anus of the person you suspect as pinworms as soon as the person awakens.
The eggs stick to the tape.
When you take the tape to your appointment so the doctor can look at pinworms or eggs under a microscope.
Interesting.
matt mccusker
Isn't that fucking crazy?
joe rogan
Bro, this is a crazy video of a black bear.
This black bear is walking and it's got worms.
It's got worms coming out of its butt.
shane gillis
Like a giant one.
joe rogan
Like garden noses.
Like garden noses.
unidentified
Hanging out of his ass.
joe rogan
How crazy is that?
shane gillis
His face.
He's like, I know, dude.
This sucks.
This is embarrassing.
joe rogan
The size of those worms.
What must be going on in their gut?
matt mccusker
Oh my god.
joe rogan
The worms must be getting most of the food.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, that's so nasty.
If they're making their way all the way out through your asshole, that thick, look at that, those thick COVID vaccine-like ropes.
You know those blood clots that you find on Reddit?
That's what it looks like.
Look at that fucking length of that thing.
unidentified
Look at that one, that one you just showed, Jamie?
joe rogan
But look at the length!
Oh my god, look at the length of that!
Look at the worms behind him!
matt mccusker
Oh, brother, that tree's not the answer, man.
shane gillis
No, that's good, though, for now.
matt mccusker
True.
joe rogan
Imagine having no idea what's going on in your butt.
shane gillis
Jamie, get that bear racking his nuts doing that.
It's pretty great.
joe rogan
He has no idea what's going on in his butt.
shane gillis
Let's change the subject from diarrhea and worms.
joe rogan
Bro, that's crazy.
shane gillis
That's terrible.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
shane gillis
It's kind of sad.
You ever see that bear get hit in the nuts?
joe rogan
This one?
shane gillis
Yeah, it's pretty wonderful.
matt mccusker
This is great.
shane gillis
This is one of the greatest videos ever.
matt mccusker
There we go.
Gear it up.
joe rogan
What's he doing?
matt mccusker
Scratching his head.
shane gillis
Scratching, man.
matt mccusker
God, that's got to feel fucking awesome.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at him.
He's just rubbing his back.
Is there any other animal that does that?
matt mccusker
Oh, no!
Oh, he caught himself.
Look at him.
joe rogan
He's like, oh, my nuts.
Oh, my nuts.
shane gillis
Instantly just a dude.
matt mccusker
It took like a good ten seconds to fully kick in on him.
joe rogan
They are absolutely the coolest animal.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're the coolest.
shane gillis
Grizzly would kill a gorilla, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, I think so.
matt mccusker
Really?
shane gillis
Yeah, bro.
matt mccusker
It's a hot take.
shane gillis
I'm tired of these people saying gorillas would fuck up a grizzly.
matt mccusker
Yeah, that's crazy.
shane gillis
Grizzlies are fucking...
matt mccusker
They're huge!
shane gillis
They run 40 miles an hour.
joe rogan
Well, there's different types.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
There's different types.
There's mountain grizzlies and then there's coastal brown bears.
Which are the same species, but they have much more access to protein.
They're just eating salmon all day.
And moose.
Those things are giant.
matt mccusker
Damn.
joe rogan
Look how fast they run.
matt mccusker
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
They run so fast.
But more importantly...
Oh my god.
But believe it or not, John Donaher and Lex Friedman had a conversation about this that I saw.
It was hilarious.
About who would win.
A gorilla, a bear, a grizzly bear, or a lion.
And what he was...
shane gillis
Lions getting rocked.
Right?
joe rogan
Well...
shane gillis
Easy.
joe rogan
No, no, probably not.
shane gillis
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, probably not.
No.
shane gillis
No, I'm out.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's hard to say.
unidentified
I'm out.
joe rogan
It's hard to say.
Lions are pretty big.
You know, a big male lion, a tiger would.
A big, like, Siberian, and those really enormous tigers.
shane gillis
I watched a sloth bear hold his own against a fucking tiger recently.
That's just a shitty, mangy, shitty bear.
Those are very aggressive bears.
unidentified
A grizzly.
joe rogan
Sloth bears are very aggressive.
They kill a lot of people.
shane gillis
That was the first time I met you.
I showed you a sloth bear killing a man.
The day we met.
The first time we did an open mic together, I was like, yo, check this out.
matt mccusker
It was the bear eating a guy.
shane gillis
He showed me a guy jump off a building and I was like, sick.
matt mccusker
That was a rough one.
joe rogan
This is a bear versus a tiger.
shane gillis
This is actually very nice.
That sloth bear is defending its cub.
It's a very nice moment, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a small tiger.
shane gillis
And that soft bear gets rocked and hangs in there.
Yeah.
unidentified
Damn, dude.
joe rogan
They're tough, dude.
They're tough.
shane gillis
A grizzly would go nuts on that thing.
matt mccusker
Fuck, they're lying up.
joe rogan
Maybe that size tiger.
That's not a very big tiger.
It depends on how big they are.
It's just, the thing about grizzlies and lions, they're the ones that have the giant advantage because they kill shit all the time.
This is one of the things that Don Hurst said, like, Gorillas don't really kill anything.
Silverbacks have canines that are just for posturing.
They're just like for showing their fangs.
It's weird.
It's weird that they have canines because they don't kill anything.
Every other thing that has canines as big as a gorilla kills things.
They just eat vegetables.
matt mccusker
Yeah, true.
I wonder if they ever ate meat.
Will monkeys eat meat at all?
shane gillis
Yeah, monkeys do.
matt mccusker
Chimps do.
joe rogan
Chimps are very carnivorous.
Chimps are very carnivorous.
They eat a lot of meat.
They eat a lot of monkeys.
unidentified
They eat monkeys.
joe rogan
A lot of monkeys.
Really?
They'll eat deers.
They eat monkeys.
They eat everything they can catch.
But they eat fruit.
If it's available, they eat the fruit.
But really what they want is monkeys.
That's their favorite thing to eat.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They found out.
shane gillis
You remember Chimp Heppler?
joe rogan
David Attenborough.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, true.
shane gillis
They were, like, fucking with those things.
joe rogan
Well, I had the director on.
He said they didn't even show all the chimps eating monkeys.
He's like, what?
So often.
He was like, it's their favorite thing to do.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at the size of that cat.
Imagine if that motherfucker walks in.
shane gillis
Fuck, dude.
jamie vernon
Siberian versus Bengal tiger, as it said.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a Siberian.
They look the same.
matt mccusker
Good move.
Show the belly.
joe rogan
The guy's like, no thanks.
shane gillis
I like that guy chilling.
joe rogan
He's just walking around that cage like Francis Ngano.
Get the fuck out of my way.
matt mccusker
Damn, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So that thing against a grizzly?
I don't know.
But grizzlies are fucking insanely durable, man.
The thing about that, they're designed to fight.
A cat is not necessarily designed to fight.
They're designed to kill things.
Grizzlies fight each other all the time, and they fight for like 20 minutes.
And they tear each other apart, and they don't get hurt.
matt mccusker
That's a good point.
joe rogan
Their skin is so flexible and so thick that they get just bit down on, and they're shaking each other, and then they just shake it off.
Like nothing happened.
shane gillis
Yeah, I'm still, I'm grizzly on this.
matt mccusker
What's the gorilla's...
joe rogan
It's a good possibility.
The thing is like a cat.
matt mccusker
Super strength?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, just strong as fuck.
And smart.
The gorilla's smart.
matt mccusker
True.
joe rogan
But they're gonna get fucked up.
They're gonna get fucked up.
shane gillis
You're taking a big cat against a gorilla?
matt mccusker
A gorilla?
joe rogan
No.
I'm not necessarily taking the big cat against a grizzly.
But maybe.
Because I don't think, I don't think the big cat is used to fighting.
Grizzlies fight so much.
Like, they know how to fight.
Like, I think it would know how to hold the cat down.
shane gillis
Those cats fight.
joe rogan
Yeah, but...
shane gillis
I think they have to fight.
Don't they kill all the...
joe rogan
They get killed.
shane gillis
They get kicked out of the fucking group.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's true.
But grizzlies fight, like, every year.
shane gillis
Yeah, yeah.
Grizzlies are out there.
They're like Tyson in their prime.
It's every two weeks.
joe rogan
Get in front of each other.
I've seen bears fight in the wild.
shane gillis
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's wild, see.
It's wild.
These bears were going at it.
I was in Alberta.
And the way they hunt bears out there, the forest out there is like a box of Q-tips.
You can't see shit.
You can't see shit.
So the way they hunt bears, they have an enormous bear population.
It's like they're infested with black bears.
They leave bait out.
They need to eat like donuts or something sweet.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then the bears come to that.
So these bears know where this one, or they leave a dead beaver.
That's another thing they leave.
So the bears know when the bait is there, and so they'll decide who gets the bait, or they'll decide that a female is hot and she's ready to have sex, and they'll fight over the female.
But I watch these two dudes just go at it.
Just...
Just go at it, like, 30 yards away from him.
shane gillis
Like, this is wild.
It's terrifying.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's wild.
matt mccusker
Yeah, the black bears are prevalent in the Poconos in Pennsylvania.
shane gillis
They're kind of sissies.
matt mccusker
They are.
shane gillis
Well, I mean, they're at least like, they don't fuck with people.
matt mccusker
They run away.
joe rogan
That's what they do.
matt mccusker
Dude, my neighbor, when I was up there, the guy who stayed next to us was like, I'll walk down the driveway with him.
I'm like, dude, you're out of your fucking mind, man.
joe rogan
You're out of your fucking mind.
That's crazy.
shane gillis
Jamie, there's a video of, I think it was a black bear, getting into a dude's cabin.
matt mccusker
Really?
shane gillis
And he's like, there's no, you can tell it's just a bro.
He's like, dude, I think there's something in the kitchen.
And then he's like, holy fuck, it's a bear dude, holy fuck.
Then it comes up the step, like it's...
unidentified
I don't know, Jamie, find that, because I sound like a dumbass.
joe rogan
He killed a kid at Rutgers a few years back.
shane gillis
A kid got killed by a black bear?
joe rogan
At Rutgers.
matt mccusker
Fuck, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was going to school at Rutgers in New Jersey.
The Stress Factory?
New Jersey, yeah, the Stress Factory.
New Jersey has the highest population of bears per capita in the country.
unidentified
What?
shane gillis
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, New Jersey does.
New Jersey State, when the governor, who's currently in, when he was running, one of the things he was running on was stopping the bear hunt.
shane gillis
Chris Christie.
joe rogan
Because people were upset.
People were upset that people were hunting bears.
Like, the people that live in Newark and cities.
Like, what are you doing, Hackensack?
You're hunting bears.
They kept that law for two years.
And then he's like, forget it.
Start hunting bears again.
So many bear interactions with people.
They were going up so high.
They were fucking up people's garbage cans.
matt mccusker
Yeah, they come in the Poconos.
You gotta lock your thing up.
Because they come, like, every Sunday they're coming.
I was fucking terrified of them.
shane gillis
My family and I, we got a house in the Poconos, and the deer are everywhere.
joe rogan
Everywhere.
shane gillis
And they are fucking disgusting.
matt mccusker
Yeah, you gotta shoot them.
shane gillis
Dude, we walk outside, there's just the most mangy fucking deer you've ever seen.
joe rogan
Well, they also might have chronic wasting disease.
shane gillis
They're fucked up.
matt mccusker
Oh, dude, that's fucked up.
My brother saw that.
They just drown themselves and stuff.
joe rogan
Scary.
They call it like a zombie disease.
It's a prion disease.
Look at this bear.
shane gillis
Awesome.
joe rogan
That guy's just chilling.
matt mccusker
No idea.
shane gillis
Oh!
matt mccusker
I said, what the fuck?
shane gillis
Dude, there's one.
There's an Asian lady taking a nap and a bear comes over and starts sniffing her face.
joe rogan
The thing about bears...
shane gillis
Sorry.
joe rogan
Black bears, if you get attacked by a black bear, it's more likely trying to eat you.
matt mccusker
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
If you get attacked by a grizzly bear, it's more likely you shocked it, like you came near its cubs, that kind of thing.
Or might want to eat you, too.
That's possible, too.
But with black bears, it's more likely that they're just hungry.
unidentified
Fuck, dude.
shane gillis
Wasn't Grizzly Man there when they started to get hungry?
Isn't that what happened?
joe rogan
Yeah, he stayed.
shane gillis
He hung out.
unidentified
He stayed.
shane gillis
They were like, don't be there during that season.
joe rogan
Yeah, there were bears that were so hungry they couldn't hibernate.
They didn't have enough fat to hibernate.
matt mccusker
Fuck.
joe rogan
It was an old bear, and he just didn't have any food.
You know?
shane gillis
He got a good meal.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt mccusker
He became a bear in the end of it.
joe rogan
Just sniffing this lady.
jamie vernon
That's a guy.
shane gillis
Dude.
jamie vernon
Sleep.
joe rogan
He wakes up and sees a bear.
A bear was fucking with his shoes.
Bro.
Yeah.
You know, they're cool.
You just don't want a lot of them near you.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
shane gillis
I don't want any of them.
joe rogan
Do you know they used to eat them and not eat deer?
matt mccusker
They'd eat bears?
joe rogan
Yeah, the pioneers.
Like, when they first started establishing America, they would eat bear and they would use the deer for skins.
That's why a dollar is called a buck.
That was the amount of money you could get for one deer skin.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, they didn't eat deer, which is crazy.
matt mccusker
What's bear taste like?
joe rogan
It tastes good.
It's closer to beef.
That's why.
And so they were eating bear and they were just using the deer for skins.
shane gillis
I like to think of that, the guys that got to North America and ran into fucking grizzlies, like from Europe.
joe rogan
Yo.
shane gillis
You're like, what?
joe rogan
Well, Europe has a lot of brown bears.
shane gillis
Yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, Russia has some of the craziest brown bears.
shane gillis
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But Germany has brown bears.
I think someone could get killed by a brown bear.
shane gillis
Germany has brown bears?
joe rogan
Pretty sure.
shane gillis
No way.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Not anymore.
joe rogan
I don't know.
shane gillis
Oh, yeah.
I guess they got those forests.
joe rogan
There's bears in the forest in certain parts of Europe, I know for sure.
I know they have brown bears out there.
shane gillis
Yeah.
matt mccusker
Lobster was like prison food when it first came.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
matt mccusker
Yeah, lobster, it was considered disgusting.
shane gillis
It was a bug they found near the boats.
matt mccusker
They feed it to prisoners.
joe rogan
They would get them out of the East River and serve them to people at bars.
It was bar food.
First bear in Germany in 16 years.
Okay, yeah, there it is.
First wild bear in Germany, 170 years.
shane gillis
Alright, I was close.
joe rogan
Okay, that must have been one I read.
So are there bears in Spain?
Is that what it is?
Are there brown bears in Spain?
shane gillis
Oh so.
joe rogan
But there's definitely some...
Russia has some craziness in my brain.
What is that?
shane gillis
I was like, you know, you drink enough and start remembering Spanish.
I was like, oh so.
matt mccusker
For a bear.
shane gillis
I think that might be a bear.
matt mccusker
It is.
shane gillis
Nice.
jamie vernon
It's actually the new vodka.
shane gillis
Oh, really?
jamie vernon
Tom and Bert have a vodka.
joe rogan
It's called Oso?
Oh, what a great name.
shane gillis
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Perfect.
matt mccusker
I just saw the ad and you said Oso.
I thought you were talking about the vodka itself.
shane gillis
Oh.
matt mccusker
Oso.
joe rogan
I thought you were talking about that dude who was the guru in Wild Wild Country.
shane gillis
That guy ruled.
joe rogan
That guy ruled.
shane gillis
Oh, Osho.
The people are retarded.
matt mccusker
Dude, Osho's books are good.
unidentified
For the people, by the people, of the people.
But the people are retarded.
shane gillis
God damn it.
unidentified
For the retarded, of the retarded, by the retarded.
shane gillis
You're watching it, you're like, Dan, this guy's a genius.
This is, wow, this is going to be really insightful.
joe rogan
It's so deep.
shane gillis
But the people are retarded.
unidentified
God damn it.
shane gillis
This is something I would say.
joe rogan
This guy's not smart.
I think he's right, man.
I think he's on it, man.
unidentified
Bro.
matt mccusker
Second language, too.
joe rogan
Look at him.
unidentified
Such a G. Government.
joe rogan
Government.
unidentified
By the people.
shane gillis
Think of being in this meeting, like...
unidentified
Of the people.
shane gillis
Yeah.
unidentified
For the people.
But the people are retarded.
shane gillis
That's why you look next to you and your friend's like, what?
unidentified
Wait a minute, we think we might have fucking bet on the wrong guru, man.
shane gillis
What are you doing?
matt mccusker
You're in full lotus, just like, what?
shane gillis
You're in orange sweatsuits.
joe rogan
Knowing that you gambled on the wrong guru, that's why I'm so glad I got out of that first building.
That first building, I bought a first building before we bought the mothership, before that spot.
I bought a place that was owned by a cult.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
There's a documentary on it called Holy Hell.
matt mccusker
Oh, Duncan told me that.
Yeah, he told me you were in like a...
Was he still kicking around?
joe rogan
The guy's in Hawaii now.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Really?
He restarted.
shane gillis
He's a legend though.
You told me this guy's story.
This guy fucking rules.
joe rogan
Guy's a legend.
So the guy was a gay porn star and a hypnotist.
unidentified
True.
matt mccusker
Dangerous combo.
joe rogan
Dangerous combination.
shane gillis
It's the ultimate combo.
joe rogan
And a yoga instructor.
And beautiful, beautiful man.
matt mccusker
What?
joe rogan
Amazing physique, six-pack, taught yoga.
But as he got older, he got creepy.
Started getting a lot of plastic surgery, lost his physique.
And so the Cult Awareness Network, it was like right after Waco.
Cult Awareness Network, they're cracking down on all these cults, you know, because Waco pops off, right?
shane gillis
Those motherfuckers.
joe rogan
So this motherfucker says, okay, I'm going to move to Austin, and just to throw people off who might be thinking I'm running a cult, I'm going to have my followers build me a theater so that I can dance in front of them.
And that was the place that I bought.
I bought that place.
It was going to be my comedy club.
shane gillis
Just a gay hypnotist dancer?
joe rogan
Well, I found out about it from Ron White.
Ron Wright's like, you should buy that theater that was owned by the cult.
I played there once.
It's a fucking awesome, beautiful place.
I go, really?
He goes, oh, yeah.
shane gillis
It's a good Ron White, by the way.
It's a really good Ron White.
joe rogan
Every time I talk to Ron White, I'm like, I'm friends with Ron White.
It's weird.
He's the man.
shane gillis
He might be the coolest dude.
Possible?
joe rogan
He's one of the greatest humans that's ever won.
matt mccusker
He's so funny.
joe rogan
I love that guy to death.
So when he was telling me to buy the building, I was like, I'm buying that building.
It's for sale?
Let's go.
And I took him on the tour, and he's like, yeah, I fucking killed right here.
So we all looked at it.
We brought in architects and everything.
I mean, we were in the planning stages.
They had like a significant issue that wasn't addressed, that had to be addressed, and I got out of it.
shane gillis
Yeah, it's like buying a house and they're like, it's haunted.
joe rogan
Well, there was a lot of issues.
First of all, the people, they were not construction people that made that place.
But then on top of that, Adam Egott, Tells me about the documentary.
I did not know about the documentary.
I just knew Ron said, yeah, a cult owned it.
I'm like, a cult.
matt mccusker
Yeah, whatever.
joe rogan
Normal stuff.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bunch of flower people.
They probably did yoga and grew squash.
No.
No, no, no.
There was a lot of buttfuck.
Dudes were getting applause.
They were getting hypnotized and fucked, and then they had to pay.
They had to pay for the therapy.
So he'd give them therapy, they'd have to pay 50 bucks, and then he would fuck them.
matt mccusker
Did it work?
joe rogan
That's the thing about the documentary that's wild.
This guy was a legitimate hypnotist, right?
And he had these people convinced that he could give them this thing called the knowing.
And the knowing was he would like place his hands on you.
It would have to be the right time, the right moment.
But these people, to this day, were saying it's the most amazing moment of their life.
It was pure ecstasy.
They connected to God.
Like he, through the power of suggestion, when he put his hands on them, they really did experience that thing.
So he really did have that power.
He really, really actually did.
If you're a gullible person who's likely to join a cult in the first place, you're kind of a sucker, you're not skeptical, you believe this, and then you find yourself in the woods, and you're on your knees, and this guy's over you, and he puts his hands on your temples, and they would just go into full bliss.
And it's wild because it's in the movie, and it doesn't look like they're faking it.
It looks like they're having this wild, transcendent experience.
Like someone just gives them a full-on mushroom trip.
Just fucking whop!
Just hits them with a giant dose of acid.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
And they're just like...
And they talk about it afterwards.
matt mccusker
Even they're talking shit about him.
Even afterwards.
joe rogan
Like 20 years later when they're talking shit about him.
They talk about him.
They believed in him so much.
shane gillis
He was yoked.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was beautiful.
He was beautiful.
He had a six-pack.
He was a yoga instructor.
See, he would give them this thing, man.
He would touch them in the head.
And by the way, some of them, he would hold it back from them.
He wouldn't give it to them.
No, no, you're not ready.
Like, no, I'm ready.
And so they'd be complaining for years.
You are not ready.
Oh, man.
matt mccusker
Show that again.
shane gillis
Show that again.
matt mccusker
No!
joe rogan
He's throwing fruit in people's mouths, bro.
jamie vernon
Look at the way he's tossed it sideways.
shane gillis
Yeah, it's nice.
joe rogan
This is, by the way, this is later in life when he's getting a little creepy looking.
So he starts getting a bunch of plastic surgery and weird shit to his face and his body kind of falls apart.
But that was him dancing.
That was him dancing at the One World Theater.
matt mccusker
What?
joe rogan
Which was the place that I was going to buy.
unidentified
That's it.
joe rogan
He had them build a theater so he could dance in front of them.
shane gillis
I mean, can you imagine seeing that guy and not hysterically laughing?
joe rogan
Well, as he got older, he just started looking like real weird men.
Like, real weird.
unidentified
Like, look at him.
Yeah.
joe rogan
But when he was young, he was beautiful.
So that's the torment of youthful beauty.
You get older, it's fucking...
You become a monster.
shane gillis
Yeah, but even when he was young, it'd still be...
Like, if I saw a guy like...
unidentified
Throw a fruit in some guy's mouth and be like, I'm out.
joe rogan
I bet he started throwing the fruit later in life.
shane gillis
Yeah, he started getting a little confident.
joe rogan
I bet he got a little cocky.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He'd been running that call for a couple of decades.
That's an older version of the dude.
Changed his name twice.
shane gillis
Look at that fucking hog, though, dude.
What's this guy?
He's like a Clydesdale.
joe rogan
He's been stuffing in all those butts.
shane gillis
This guy's problem.
joe rogan
Look at all those hungry mouths behind him.
shane gillis
Oh, look at him, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, look at that.
matt mccusker
Look at the other guy.
The other guy had his mouth open, too.
joe rogan
The guy in the back was like, I don't wanna...
matt mccusker
Look at the dude in the back.
unidentified
He's like...
joe rogan
Oh, my mouth.
Oh, oh, dude.
I probably said to him, I experienced it through you.
shane gillis
I felt it.
joe rogan
I felt it.
The ecstasy you had of catching master's fruit.
matt mccusker
The gay buttfuck cult, man.
That's tough, man.
joe rogan
Bro, so they found out because in the early 2000s...
shane gillis
Might be worse than Waco.
joe rogan
A guy left.
A guy left the cult and sent a mass email.
He's like, yo, this guy's been hypnotizing me and buttfucking me for the past 10 years.
And then everybody else in the cult.
shane gillis
I swear to God, he's fucking good at it.
joe rogan
They really didn't know how many people he was doing that to.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they all started sharing information.
matt mccusker
What?
joe rogan
I mean, he ran this thing for a long time.
The thing they all say, though, is in the beginning, it was great.
In the beginning of the cult, they were just having meals together.
And they were going on nature hikes.
They were doing yoga together.
Then as later, I think as he got older, he couldn't get as many guys.
So he needed to fuck them.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you get gross looking, the only people that'll fuck you are the people that think you're a master.
unidentified
True.
joe rogan
You know, when you're young and hot.
shane gillis
Let me tell you something, Joe.
joe rogan
True.
I know!
That's why I came to you.
He's out there getting it.
He probably didn't need to fuck him in the early days.
shane gillis
I do like the idea of being in a cult, like the moment of clarity where you're like, oh.
Oh, it's so funny.
Dude, Waco is so funny to think of a guy being in there when they're like, the feds are coming, we've got to fight them off.
And me and a guy in the meeting, like...
joe rogan
Oh, no.
shane gillis
Shit.
joe rogan
And if you leave, they'll shoot you.
unidentified
Yeah.
If you run out that door, you're going to get shot in the back.
joe rogan
You've got to run out in the middle of the night.
So you've got to plan it out.
You have a fucking toothbrush and a pair of underwear taped to your leg.
You've got to figure out how to get over the barbed wire.
You've got to run out with a roll of carpet.
You throw the roll of carpet over the barbed wire.
You've got it all planned.
shane gillis
You hear Khrush like, where are you going, buddy?
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ.
And you hear, kak, kak, kak, kak.
And you feel the hot lead.
matt mccusker
I heard a lot of those North California grow-ups.
They had that thing, Triangle of something, on Netflix.
I've heard a long time ago they were like that.
People with hippie kids would be like, I'm gonna go trim on this guy's farm, and it's like, thinking it's gonna be some cool hippie guy, but these are like country, Northern California criminals.
They're like hot young hippy chicks running out there and getting like drugged and stuff.
It's like...
joe rogan
Well, that's a documentary series, Sasquatch.
matt mccusker
Really?
shane gillis
That was nice.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That was cool.
Very good documentary series.
It's about...
They attributed a murder to Bigfoot.
They said, Bigfoot goes...
unidentified
That makes sense.
matt mccusker
Tell us fucking Bigfoot, dude.
shane gillis
Imagine how high you have to be.
Dude, just be like, oh fuck.
joe rogan
Bro, Bigfoot killed that cartel guy.
shane gillis
Fucking Sasquatch broke in and killed all the cartel guys.
That was nuts.
joe rogan
So it was so remote and so lawless that guys would come in and steal people's crops.
They'd rob people and shoot people.
And so it was like, these guys started off as hippies.
And then it became a business.
shane gillis
That has to be how every...
Like Loch Ness Monster, Sasquatch, every single monster was definitely just a guy killing a guy.
I mean, I fucking...
This chupacabra came out of nowhere.
joe rogan
Back in the day, poor DNA evidence that people believed in monsters.
matt mccusker
True, that's a good idea.
joe rogan
Also, if you leave someone's body in the woods, like where there's wild pigs and animals, they're gonna eat that body quick.
All you have to do is leave the body for 24 hours.
And something's eating it.
A coyote's gonna eat it.
jamie vernon
I don't remember if we talked about this.
joe rogan
No, no, I haven't seen this one.
shane gillis
This shit was so funny.
joe rogan
Love has won.
The cult of Mother God.
That's one of the rare cults run by a lady, too, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
Yeah, we watched some of this.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was.
shane gillis
It is so funny.
There's a dude that shows up and just dominates the cult.
joe rogan
A dude does?
unidentified
A dude takes over?
shane gillis
A dude shows up and just ruins everything.
There he was.
matt mccusker
Yeah, she was fucking like, there he is.
joe rogan
He was the boyfriend.
matt mccusker
He's a meth head.
joe rogan
Of course.
He's a meth head?
shane gillis
Yeah, he's like, gets out of prison or whatever, goes to this cult.
joe rogan
Amazing.
shane gillis
He said he was out raking leaves with all the community, and he just put his rake down and was like, I run this.
joe rogan
Wow.
shane gillis
And he just immediately started dominating everybody.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
matt mccusker
Making them listen to heavy metal?
shane gillis
Dude, he'd put heavy metal on him and be like, this is power!
I'm power.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
matt mccusker
Like a dude would get to fuck this lady and then he'd be like father god.
So she had like three father gods and the meth head dude came through and just shut down.
joe rogan
Discovering a mummified body laying in an enshrined queen-sized bed wrapped in a sleeping bag decorated with Christmas lights.
shane gillis
They believed silver.
What's it called?
What type of silver?
joe rogan
Colloidal silver.
shane gillis
They were like, that's gonna solve this.
So they were just crushing this lady with silver while she was an alcoholic.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
shane gillis
And she started turning blue.
joe rogan
As a 19-billion-year-old deity, Carlson claimed she could cure cancer while also drinking herself into oblivion every night.
matt mccusker
What a wild lady!
shane gillis
Dude, wait till you see.
What a wild lady.
joe rogan
Bro, I'm watching that tonight.
shane gillis
She's got the galactics.
She channels her deity.
joe rogan
I'm writing this down then.
I'm going to set a reminder to watch this.
shane gillis
It's so funny.
matt mccusker
Very funny.
joe rogan
Mother love, right?
matt mccusker
Love has won.
shane gillis
Love has won.
joe rogan
Love has won?
shane gillis
She channels her...
They're called the Galactics.
It's a collection of people that...
Who knows?
They have spaceships.
They're going to pick her up.
The Galactics are really...
It's Robin Williams and Donald Trump, who's still alive.
They love Trump, which is so funny.
matt mccusker
They do love Trump.
shane gillis
She's like, anytime she gets hammered, she's like, Robin Williams is channeling himself through me.
That's why I'm being mean to everybody.
She's just doing stand-up.
No, she just gets hammered and be like, fuck you, bitch, clean up all my shit.
Then the next day be like, damn, Robin Williams was crazy last night.
I'm sorry.
That's hilarious!
Then she starts taking silver and her cult believes her so much that when she starts to be like, I don't know guys, I think the silver might be killing me.
They're like, nah, the silver's good.
You're God.
She's like, I'm not God, I'm fucking hammered.
I've been hammered for 20 years.
joe rogan
Is that the same stuff that made that guy turn blue?
Remember when he was on Oprah?
shane gillis
This is what happened.
joe rogan
Did she turn blue as well?
shane gillis
She turns blue at the end.
joe rogan
Oh boy.
What did she look like at the end?
shane gillis
That.
joe rogan
Oh yeah.
Oh man.
matt mccusker
She wasn't that old, right?
shane gillis
She was attractive, dude.
Show her before.
She was hot.
matt mccusker
Oh, the silver.
shane gillis
Wow.
joe rogan
Jamie's still watching this on a sneak.
shane gillis
Jamie, you like that meat catch.
Look at that fucking dog, dude.
You little tiny dog watching guys catch meat.
She was very pretty.
joe rogan
She was pretty.
shane gillis
Look at that one.
jamie vernon
Is that her too?
shane gillis
Yeah, that's her.
unidentified
LinkedIn photo.
Wow.
LinkedIn.
shane gillis
LinkedIn.
Glad to see your business is doing well.
Yeah, it just became a business where the money guy is hilarious in it.
joe rogan
So she was running it for a while until the meth head came along.
She was so hot.
jamie vernon
McDonald's manager to cult leader.
joe rogan
Wow, she was a McDonald's manager.
shane gillis
Yeah, she did it.
joe rogan
Hey, you can do it in this country.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you have a good idea and you really work hard, you can.
shane gillis
You can die from rum and silver like a pirate.
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Rum and silver.
Was she drinking rum?
shane gillis
Bro, she was crushing shit.
She's hammered the whole time and then her meth head boyfriend shows up and he rules.
unidentified
He does.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
shane gillis
He dominates everyone.
All the other guys are pussies and this dude shows up.
They all still believe though.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
That's such a dangerous thing.
Look at that guy.
Holy shit.
Super blue.
Colloidal server turns you blue.
Wow, he was a good looking guy before that.
What the fuck?
shane gillis
That's literally Papa Smurf.
matt mccusker
That is, dude.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
And they can't turn that.
It looks like William.
matt mccusker
Over a decade.
shane gillis
Those look like William Montgomery.
joe rogan
Looks a little like William, the way he's smiling.
If he was bald, that's William Montgomery.
matt mccusker
I am going to take colloidal silver.
joe rogan
William Montgomery should do that for Halloween.
matt mccusker
Dude, blue face for Halloween?
He might get tackled in the street.
joe rogan
That guy had it too?
Wow.
matt mccusker
That stuff is in the Alex Jones toothpaste.
joe rogan
Colloidal silver?
In the Alex Jones toothpaste?
matt mccusker
I don't want to besmirch his company.
shane gillis
Too late.
matt mccusker
I think the colloidal silver was in the toothpaste.
His dad's a dentist.
shane gillis
Alex Jones' dad's a dentist?
matt mccusker
Yeah, man.
You ever listen to the program?
joe rogan
There it is.
matt mccusker
Super blue.
shane gillis
That's an interesting ad.
unidentified
Zoom in on that.
joe rogan
I gotta piss.
I gotta piss.
Matt, you can't be by yourself.
matt mccusker
I'll take a break.
joe rogan
Let's take a break.
unidentified
Yes.
shane gillis
Yes.
joe rogan
So much better.
shane gillis
Feels good, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's good to pee.
shane gillis
What's better?
Peeing or shitting?
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Something about a good one.
shane gillis
A good one versus...
I mean, think about a good whiz.
joe rogan
They're both pretty good.
matt mccusker
But a dump.
shane gillis
When you're holding a whiz and you get it?
matt mccusker
What it is, it's like a clitoral orgasm that's peeing real hard, and then dumping is like having a cervical orgasm.
I'm just saying, if you had to compare it to something.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's one of those guys like, I stub my toe, it's just like childbirth.
shane gillis
Wait, there's fucking cervical orgasms?
matt mccusker
Dude, I know.
unidentified
What the fuck?
matt mccusker
You know what Nate Lemaire fucked me up on?
Our friends were, I was talking to them, and they were saying dudes are now reviewing their dick size, like the dildo that's their dick size, and reading the reviews women leave of the dildo.
shane gillis
Oh, I'm not coming close to that.
matt mccusker
I'm not looking at it, dude.
shane gillis
You gotta talk about negative comments.
matt mccusker
Bro.
Dude.
My brain keeps dumping it.
It comes up, and I'm like, I'm gonna do it.
shane gillis
I would just get one of those little fucking tiny little buzzers.
joe rogan
If they had an Ozempic for dick size, and it gave you a bunch of side effects.
Side effects could be cancer.
shane gillis
Anything.
joe rogan
Fired up.
Diabetes.
matt mccusker
Turning blue.
joe rogan
Guys would just take diabetes medication, have a giant hog.
But if you only take you have to keep taking it like it artificially inflates the size of your dick for a limited time Yeah, you have to bang it every couple of days all day Every couple days, you gotta bang it.
matt mccusker
It'd be so hard to not do that.
joe rogan
Everybody would do it.
If they do, boy, that's the holy grail.
That's what I'm talking about, man.
matt mccusker
What the fuck are they doing?
shane gillis
Yeah, what are they doing?
matt mccusker
Making all this bullshit.
shane gillis
Talking around fucking flu vaccines.
Fuck that, dude.
Fix my dick.
joe rogan
Fix it.
shane gillis
I need someone to fix this.
unidentified
Grow it.
shane gillis
Because I can't.
matt mccusker
For world peace, if everyone of the same size dong, we might enter the age of peace.
I swear to God.
Or it'd be a bunch of big dick kings.
shane gillis
That might be too much.
joe rogan
Well, in a place like China, isn't there like a giant difference between the number of men versus the number of women?
matt mccusker
Yeah.
shane gillis
You'd think they would chill the fuck out.
joe rogan
Why would they?
shane gillis
Just dudes balling out.
joe rogan
They're getting angry.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Limited supply.
matt mccusker
Oh, so there's more dudes.
shane gillis
There's more dudes.
matt mccusker
Are you calling China a sausage party?
joe rogan
They had the one child policy.
shane gillis
It's a complete sausage fest.
matt mccusker
Right, so it's just dudes.
Oh, they don't let the other...
Yeah, they can have girls.
shane gillis
And we're like, damn.
matt mccusker
They have dudes.
shane gillis
China's killing us in math and science.
joe rogan
Look at this.
In 2023, there were around 720 million male inhabitants and 689 female inhabitants.
That's a big difference.
matt mccusker
Dude, that sucks.
joe rogan
That sucks.
Wow, there's 1.4 billion people in China.
That's crazy.
That's so many people.
matt mccusker
They need to knock that off.
That's so many people, bro.
joe rogan
What is it, 690 and 720?
Is that what it was, Jamie?
jamie vernon
No, it's 720 and 690. Yeah, you said it.
joe rogan
Yeah, so that's a solid 30 million, man.
That's a lot of people.
shane gillis
We're getting conflicted reports about China.
matt mccusker
True.
You think they're pumping up the numbers?
shane gillis
I don't know what's going on, dude.
joe rogan
In terms of what?
shane gillis
I don't know.
Are they killing us?
Are they a paper tiger?
What is it?
joe rogan
The thing that scares the shit out of me is if they go into Taiwan.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they seem to be saying they want to go into Taiwan.
matt mccusker
Well, dude, they're going to have a population crisis in 30 years.
shane gillis
Biden will shut that down.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
shane gillis
Yeah, he's been, thankfully...
joe rogan
He's on the ball.
shane gillis
The thing I was worried about with Trump was, you know, it was like, if Trump gets elected, World War III will happen.
And then thankfully we avoided that, you know?
And there's definitely no chance.
matt mccusker
I know, I know.
shane gillis
That's my opinion.
matt mccusker
That's true.
joe rogan
Isn't that funny, though, that, like, anti-war used to be the left?
matt mccusker
Dude, they love it now.
joe rogan
Used to be the left.
The left was all anti-war.
The left was, we gotta stop the wars.
The left was Jimmy Carter.
The left was, you know, in the wars.
matt mccusker
It's like, alright, you have to be mindful of, like, don't microaggress a lady at a job, and then it's like, oh, but shoot that Russian guy between his fucking eyes.
It's like, what, dude?
shane gillis
It's like, make sure you get their name right at Starbucks.
joe rogan
I saw a tweet.
shane gillis
Also, let's use drones to bomb Russians.
joe rogan
I saw a tweet where someone was saying how many people that have ARs could have sent those ARs to Ukraine to fight the Russians.
shane gillis
Definitely.
joe rogan
Do you know how many ARs?
shane gillis
Do you know how many guns are in America compared to the world?
joe rogan
But that was the point.
They were saying, you don't need an AR, you should send those guns.
Do you know what you're saying?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Do you realize what you're saying?
shane gillis
To prevent a government invasion?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Is that what you're saying?
So you need to give up your guns so that we're somewhere that is actually happening, they can get guns.
So that it can maybe happen here?
If no one has guns.
matt mccusker
Dude, my dad has, like, six AR-15s.
unidentified
What?
matt mccusker
He buys them.
Anytime, like, something bad happens or, like, they're taking them away, he buys another one.
shane gillis
What's he gonna do?
matt mccusker
They just stock them up.
shane gillis
He needs one.
matt mccusker
Nah, dude, he's got six.
Him and his boy buy one.
Every time there's, like, a mass shooting, he's like, let's get another AR. Nice.
He's like, they're gonna take them.
So he's like, I'm trying to stock up.
shane gillis
So, yeah, fucking whatever.
matt mccusker
It's like, that's his thing.
shane gillis
This is gonna be worth money.
matt mccusker
He brought a gun to my show.
shane gillis
Yeah, I remember that.
matt mccusker
I was filming a special and he came with a gun and a knife and the security was like, bro, you can't have the Hawk and the gun on you right now.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Is he open carrying?
matt mccusker
Yeah, he just kind of, no, he had it concealed.
He had it concealed.
And then he was in Philly, he's all bugged out.
He's like, oh, he used to like, him and his family.
shane gillis
The dads watch Fox News and they're like, we can't go into a city.
matt mccusker
Yeah, dude.
shane gillis
You'll die in any city, you'll die.
matt mccusker
They had a trash company in the 80s, too.
So they always had guns on them.
joe rogan
What, people stealing trash?
matt mccusker
No, but if you have a trash yard, it was in Chester.
Chester's outside of Philadelphia, and it's like a state of emergency.
The murder rate's crazy, and they were there during the crack epidemic.
So you had a transfer station where there's money in and out of there.
So yeah, it was nonstop of coppers there, all this other stuff.
You get tackled coming in.
unidentified
Wow.
matt mccusker
It was fucked up.
joe rogan
Damn.
shane gillis
How'd they find the gun?
They didn't pat him down.
He just said, I have a gun.
matt mccusker
I think they wanded him.
shane gillis
Oh, really?
matt mccusker
Did they do that at Helium?
I think so.
Because they got him.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
They wanded him at Helium?
matt mccusker
Or they asked him?
I don't know.
shane gillis
They might have asked him.
matt mccusker
They might have seen it.
They don't ask anyone to come in.
Maybe they did.
I'll have to ask him.
Because I've seen guys before with the wands.
joe rogan
Maybe he had the shoulder or the fucking leg holster like Clint Eastwood with straps.
matt mccusker
He might have had La Femme Nikita.
shane gillis
He might have screamed it.
joe rogan
He might have been Tomb Raider.
matt mccusker
I'll have to ask him.
I figure they wanted him.
Maybe they just...
shane gillis
He could have screamed it as soon as he walked in the door.
matt mccusker
Oh, God, fuck it!
shane gillis
I'm from the suburbs!
joe rogan
And I got a fucking gun!
matt mccusker
I was kind of pumped when I heard he was rolling that strap to the show.
I was like, fucking nice.
shane gillis
It is very nice.
It's also funny how much dads are afraid of cities.
matt mccusker
Dude, terrified.
shane gillis
They hate cities.
joe rogan
Fox News dads.
shane gillis
All day they watch how terrible things are in cities.
That's their only...
My dad won't go to Harrisburg.
He's like, I'm not going over there.
joe rogan
When you watch those migrants jump those cops and beat their ass, and then they got out of jail with no bail right away.
shane gillis
That's trouble.
joe rogan
That is wild.
shane gillis
I know, but it depends what your algorithm is.
joe rogan
And they're Tupac in the camera.
They Tupac the camera on the way out.
I didn't see this.
Yes.
Apparently those guys have fled.
matt mccusker
And they got released or deported?
joe rogan
They got released.
shane gillis
Oh, they're just back out.
joe rogan
Yeah, bro, they interviewed this one guy.
I was watching this YouTube video, what's happening in these hotels.
This one guy's been there for seven months, and he said they give him a nice hotel.
It's a nice room.
He says it's real clean.
They give him breakfast, lunch, and dinner every day, and he's an illegal immigrant.
And then there's people that are poor.
They're like, hey, What about my family?
What about me?
What about us Americans that live here, have always been here, born and raised here, and people just sneak in and you're giving them all these things you won't give us.
Why are you doing this?
This is crazy.
That's crazy.
matt mccusker
Is it like a vote?
Are they trying to get new voters or something?
joe rogan
I would imagine yes.
matt mccusker
Yeah, but they're not going to be down with it.
Have you ever met a dude from Guatemala?
joe rogan
They're doing it right now in New York City.
In New York City, they're allowing illegal immigrants to vote.
This is something they just...
Is that true?
Is that absolutely true?
Let's make sure, because this is a big statement.
But I'm pretty sure that was one of the things that they were trying to do.
They were trying to make it so that these people could be documented.
And this is what they keep saying.
The way to deal with the undocumented people is find a pathway for them to be documented.
Sure.
That's how we've always done it.
It's legal immigration.
Now, you might think legal immigration is too restrictive.
Okay.
But you can't just let anybody in, because terrorists are a real thing.
This is not like an imaginary, it's not like orcs.
Like, we know terrorists are real.
And they already caught that one guy, where they asked the guy, like, who are you?
He goes, you will know soon enough.
And then they find out, okay, this guy's on a terrorist watch list.
And made it into America.
shane gillis
What a dumbass.
matt mccusker
They're not going to vote left though.
These people coming from like South American stuff are going to read the issues.
joe rogan
A lot of them will because those are the people that got them in.
Those are the people that are giving them money.
Those are the people that are giving them free food, free place to sleep.
Wouldn't you vote for those people?
Especially, all you want to do is get a fucking job.
And if you vote for these people, and these people are going to allow you to be documented, you're going to be able to get a job and then continue to get social assistance, which has been pretty remarkable.
Getting money and food and a place to live.
Why wouldn't you do that?
matt mccusker
Yeah, but then they'll work, and they'll get on their own two feet, and they're pretty conservative.
shane gillis
That's when it's time to close the border.
Once you get established, you go, no one else.
joe rogan
Well, they don't in California.
In California, that was what changed California.
California, when Reagan was in office, Reagan created a pathway for illegal immigrants to become legal and vote.
And when he did that, the Republicans never won California again, except for Schwarzenegger.
matt mccusker
Nah.
shane gillis
You know what's interesting?
You know what's interesting about how the left has turned to kind of like war hawks?
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
The right has kind of turned to your statement there about, why don't we help Americans?
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
It's like now all of a sudden the right's like pro-welfare.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
You know what I mean?
It's like, we should be helping our people.
matt mccusker
I know.
shane gillis
You know?
It's just everything's kind of...
joe rogan
Well, people are waking up on both sides.
But there's a lot of people that are left-wing people that are like, what the fuck is going on with all these wars?
Like, what are we doing?
Like, this is not something that we were supposed to be about.
And, you know, there's a lot of people on the left that look at what's going on in Gaza right now and they're freaking out.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
So then there's that turmoil on the left.
shane gillis
Here, give me a beer.
I'd like to talk about Gaza.
I like the...
matt mccusker
That's a quagmire.
The Gaza's a quagmire for the left.
unidentified
Of course.
matt mccusker
They're like...
shane gillis
It's funny that America's like, what are we doing in all these wars?
It's like, bro, do you know who we are?
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what we do.
shane gillis
It's all we've ever done.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
shane gillis
Start to finish.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt mccusker
It's true.
shane gillis
Day one.
joe rogan
That's how you make a place like this.
jamie vernon
Here's the thing I can find.
This is not from this year.
This is from 2022, but this is the only thing I can find.
joe rogan
Yeah, Eric Adams.
This is it.
jamie vernon
This has to do with local elections, first of all.
unidentified
Right.
jamie vernon
And then people with green cards and the DACA. Anyone that's a DACA. Which is the dreamers, people...
joe rogan
Dreamers, people who are born here, right?
Parents were brought into this country illegal as children.
That's it.
Not born here, rather.
shane gillis
Dreamers.
joe rogan
So they're allowed to remain...
Yeah, no, it's great.
matt mccusker
That does sound nice.
joe rogan
That's all great.
But they are allowing people that are not legal residents or that are not legal citizens to vote, right?
jamie vernon
In New York elections.
joe rogan
Yeah, so that's all you need to know.
So that's the beginning.
So that's how you win the election over and over and over.
matt mccusker
In the short term, yeah.
joe rogan
That's how you control local elections in New York.
matt mccusker
Yeah, true.
joe rogan
I mean, it's a foolproof playbook.
You give people, like, way better treatment than you give the people you have.
That's the same thing Osho did in Wild Wild Country.
They bust in all those homeless people and let them vote, remember?
They just brought in homeless people from everywhere and said, you're going to be a part of our community.
And these people are like, finally I have a place to be.
And then once they vote, they're like, alright, get the fuck out.
matt mccusker
Get the fuck out of here.
unidentified
They kicked them all out again.
joe rogan
That documentary is wild.
matt mccusker
His books are good, though.
I've read a couple of his books.
They're good.
He's a smart dude.
joe rogan
No, he was genius.
He really was.
He was brilliant.
But he was also, like, you know, driving, like, he had, like, 13 Bentleys and shit.
matt mccusker
That was just a lesson for us, dude.
shane gillis
I mean, bro, you can't help yourself.
matt mccusker
That was just a lesson.
shane gillis
You gotta get the Bentleys, dude.
unidentified
Why not?
joe rogan
But he had so many of them.
shane gillis
I will say that.
Once you buy one nice car, I've been on that.
joe rogan
You want a second one?
shane gillis
I understand that.
joe rogan
What are you gonna get?
shane gillis
I don't know, but, no, I'm not gonna buy another one, but I'm excited.
joe rogan
You need yourself a fucking pickup truck, son.
shane gillis
I'm excited for my lease to run out so I can get a new one.
matt mccusker
Yeah, switch it up.
joe rogan
How about a Raptor?
matt mccusker
Strikes me as an SUV guy for sure.
joe rogan
A Raptor?
You ever drive one?
shane gillis
Yeah, but this is what I look like.
I can't have a Raptor.
How about a TRX? You can't play Xbox all day and then get in a Raptor.
matt mccusker
Yes, you can, dude.
Dude, gamer chairs.
shane gillis
You definitely could.
Customize gamer chairs in the car.
joe rogan
Get a TRX. We'll see.
What's a TRX? It's a Ram that has 700 horsepower.
matt mccusker
Oh, those things are wild, man.
Those things are kind of nuts.
unidentified
I'll show you one.
joe rogan
I have one here.
matt mccusker
Do you really?
unidentified
Yeah, I'll show you.
shane gillis
It's pretty awesome.
joe rogan
I have a Hennessy one that has a thousand horsepower.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
It's America.
matt mccusker
That is pretty sick.
shane gillis
Remember when we were in this fucking Tesla?
I don't.
unidentified
America!
shane gillis
America's obviously the best.
matt mccusker
Yeah, for real.
joe rogan
Yeah, I remember being that thing to drive around that Nazi-mobile.
You need a goddamn American car.
That's it, right there.
Look at that.
matt mccusker
Fuck.
How's American cars?
Are we good at making cars now?
joe rogan
That thing's the shit.
I love that thing.
I love that.
I drive that all the time.
I love it.
matt mccusker
Pickup will be nice, actually.
joe rogan
They're great.
matt mccusker
Pickup trucks get wildly expensive.
shane gillis
Speaking of Nazi-mobiles, I went and saw a Nazi movie by myself.
joe rogan
Really?
Which one?
shane gillis
Saturday night.
Zone of Interest?
joe rogan
What is that?
shane gillis
I don't know, it's about Auschwitz.
matt mccusker
I heard this is awesome.
shane gillis
It's alright.
matt mccusker
Where they live next to the concentration camp?
unidentified
Nothing happens.
shane gillis
It's just an ongoing, like you're uncomfortable the whole time.
But I did go see it by myself, which is a weird, because like the movie people, I saw it at Drafthouse, so you have like a waiter, and the whole time they're like, are you sh- Shane, hey, what's going on?
I was like, yeah, I'm just here watching Nazis alone.
Doing exactly what you thought I'd do on a Saturday night.
joe rogan
That's on brand.
shane gillis
It's very uncomfortable.
joe rogan
You watching this movie by yourself is on brand.
shane gillis
I enjoyed it, but it's...
matt mccusker
Yeah, they're right next to a concentration camp.
shane gillis
Yeah, they're at Auschwitz.
He's the...
joe rogan
Oh, and they're living good?
matt mccusker
Yeah.
shane gillis
Oh, wow.
Nothing happens, though.
It's just unsettling for two hours.
matt mccusker
It's a cool idea.
joe rogan
Look at the building they're in.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
Feeling you deserve the best in life.
joe rogan
The wildest thing that most people don't know about the Nazis is how many we brought over here.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
Operation Paperclip.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
Get them in here.
matt mccusker
Isn't Venezuela one of those countries?
shane gillis
They have a ton of Nazis in Argentina.
joe rogan
They have cities in Argentina where everybody's white.
Everybody speaks German.
shane gillis
Argentina's entire soccer team is white dudes.
That's fucking wild.
Bro, what do you got?
matt mccusker
I was talking to someone one time.
shane gillis
I guess it is far enough south that you would be white, right?
joe rogan
Maybe.
But also, there's a lot of Nazis went to Argentina.
shane gillis
Definitely.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, Tim Kennedy had that TV show, Finding Hitler.
There's this conspiracy theory that Hitler moved to Argentina.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
What is this, Jamie?
Oh, they were, uh, the ratlines were systems of escape routes for German Nazis and other fascists fleeing Europe from 1945 onward in the aftermath of World War II. These escape routes mainly led towards havens in Latin America, particularly Argentina, but also Paraguay and Colombia, Brazil, Uruguay, Mexico, Chile, Peru, Guatemala, Ecuador, and Bolivia, as well as the United States, Canada, Australia, Spain, and Switzerland.
But a lot of them in Argentina.
matt mccusker
And the Catholic Church helped them.
joe rogan
Yeah, they had this whole thing about it where they went to these towns.
They're wearing lederhosen.
Starting in 1947, some U.S. What does it say?
The rat lines are supported by clergy of the Catholic Church.
Starting in 1947, some U.S. Citation page needed.
shane gillis
That's not true.
unidentified
Ha!
matt mccusker
I mean, it was a humanitarian.
shane gillis
It actually is humanitarian.
They loved everybody.
joe rogan
Starting in 1947, some U.S. intelligence officers utilized existing rat lines to move certain Nazi strategists and scientists.
Yeah, like Wernher von Braun, the head of NASA. Yeah.
Full-on Nazi.
shane gillis
Good.
Now that he's a Nazi.
Don't hang him.
matt mccusker
I know what you're saying.
shane gillis
Let's get our fucking, let's figure out space exploration.
matt mccusker
Yeah, the juice of lemon.
shane gillis
Then he'll die.
matt mccusker
Juice of lemon.
joe rogan
Well, they also were competing because a bunch of them went to Russia as well.
matt mccusker
Ah, I see.
joe rogan
So Russia had some scientists, we had some other ones.
matt mccusker
Yeah, they can't have all the good Nazis.
joe rogan
We need some of the good Nazis.
You can look past a few things if you need to get a missile quicker.
matt mccusker
Yeah, true.
That's true.
joe rogan
Well, you have to.
You literally have to.
If these are the only guys that are making rockets.
shane gillis
Goddamn, can you imagine if they got the bomb first?
The Soviets got it?
joe rogan
It would be rough.
shane gillis
It would be negative.
joe rogan
We would have invaded Mexico.
And the Soviet Union would be funding us right now.
We're funding Mexico.
unidentified
They made UFOs and stuff.
joe rogan
Oh yeah, they made flying saucers.
shane gillis
Yeah, see this is the type of shit I don't...
All this stuff, it's like, bro, they were struggling.
joe rogan
Well, they also had a deep connection to the occult.
shane gillis
I know, but it's like...
joe rogan
A lot of weird occult shit.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
The Nazis.
shane gillis
Yeah, because they were going to kill themselves.
joe rogan
There was a suicide.
Well, I think there was also a lot of, like, evil sentiment.
They were trying to win, you know?
And they were trying to...
There was a lot of weird shit.
Like, I don't want to...
I don't really know much about the Nazi occult thing, but I know it's very well documented.
They're heavily into the occult.
shane gillis
To me, it seems a little...
I don't know.
We attribute the most evil shit ever to them.
I think they were just a really, really shitty country that was fucking everything up.
Like...
I don't know.
I don't think we need to add, like, they were Satanists.
joe rogan
Well, they were definitely into a cult.
I mean, there's other countries that did horrible shit, too.
Just what the Japanese did to the Chinese in the Rape of Nanking.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
You read about some of that stuff?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Dude.
matt mccusker
Yeah, I think it's just surprising to hear, like, they were doing what?
joe rogan
Horrific shit.
And the science experiments they would do.
They'd give people blood transfusions from various animals, and they'd cut off limbs and reattach them.
shane gillis
Yeah, they were trying stuff.
joe rogan
They were trying shit out on prisoners.
matt mccusker
They were trying to figure it out.
joe rogan
No, there's a lot of scientific and medical innovation that came out of that, unfortunately.
matt mccusker
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
What medical innovation came out of the Nazi experiments?
I think they, like, learned some things, unfortunately.
shane gillis
What is it?
unidentified
Simon's?
shane gillis
What's the company?
Bayern?
joe rogan
Bayer?
shane gillis
Bayer's out there.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Bayer did it.
Yeah, that's right.
shane gillis
Bayer's getting rowdy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah.
They tried some medication out on, like, 150 people.
Wasn't it, like, something like that?
They all died.
jamie vernon
Joseph Mingle was the guy I think you're talking about.
shane gillis
Mangalow is doing all the time.
joe rogan
Yeah, he did a lot of science experiments.
shane gillis
He loved twins.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
shane gillis
Twins?
matt mccusker
Twin experiments?
shane gillis
Yeah, he'd be like, if I fucking cut this twin's head off, how are you feeling?
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
shane gillis
You fucking idiot.
Jesus Christ.
matt mccusker
Dude, they didn't even know about germs.
There was the one guy who blew the whistle.
I forget the guy's name.
They were Germans.
shane gillis
Of course they did.
matt mccusker
The Nazis knew about germs, but the guy who like discovered them there was a Hospital attached to where they delivered they were like a morgue and then they had where they're delivering babies So they would like put down a dead body and then just catch a baby out of a woman's vagina and like Women were all dying and he was telling the doctors like you guys got to wash There's something on those dead bodies that's getting into women's like vaginas They're all like, dude, we're doctors.
Our hands are clean.
We're gentlemen.
And then the guy eventually went nuts, and then a few years later, they're like, oh, fuck, he was right.
Because he was washing his hands, and the mortality rate went down.
shane gillis
Yeah, who was that?
matt mccusker
Fuck, I forget his name.
shane gillis
That was way before World War II. Way, way, way before.
joe rogan
Well, in World War I, Fritz Haber figured out how to make gas, to kill people with gas.
And he's the same guy who figured out how to pull nitrogen out of the air.
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
So at the same time, this guy is being wanted for war crimes.
At the same time as being nominated for the Nobel Prize.
matt mccusker
What?
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt mccusker
Well, the Nobels are all weird, too.
They were like dynamite makers and stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah, because the guy...
unidentified
who told...
joe rogan
Peter Berg told me about that.
So the guy died, and they thought he died.
There was a fake story about him dying.
And they called him, like, the Merchant of Death.
And he's like, oh, jeez, I gotta change my reputation.
So he started giving out prizes.
shane gillis
Oh, nice.
joe rogan
That's what he did.
The Nobel Prize comes from that.
matt mccusker
He huck finned his funeral.
And they were like, this guy is a fucking asshole.
shane gillis
Nuh-uh.
matt mccusker
He's like, I'm pretty nice.
He started that whole thing up.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
He started the Nobel Prize trying to cover his tracks.
matt mccusker
True, yeah.
Good move.
Everyone's like, he must be the nicest, smartest scientist ever.
joe rogan
Nobody even knows about the whole dynamite thing anymore.
matt mccusker
Nobody does.
joe rogan
It never gets brought up.
It's like, oh, the Nobel Prize.
How prestigious.
matt mccusker
Did you ever get into the guy who invented diesel?
joe rogan
No.
matt mccusker
There's a book about him.
His shit's wild, dude.
joe rogan
What did he do?
matt mccusker
His name, it was like Rudolph Diesel.
He came up with the diesel engine.
And it was like, apparently it helped.
He wanted to like, make a small, reliable engine so like, people in rural areas could compete with like, cities and people could live in a farm and still like, produce stuff and not have to like, live in like, fucked up London, smoggy city.
And governments were like, yeah, we're building fucking weapons to death of these things.
And like, it turned out to be like a, it was a wild invention.
Nothing could burn stuff as efficiently before.
It would capture like 25% of the fuel.
Diesel was like 70% capture in terms of output.
It was completely revolutionary.
It was just found drowned.
joe rogan
Oh, they killed him.
matt mccusker
Oh, yeah.
It was like the kid, Wilhelm, I think, was after him.
He made all these governments.
shane gillis
Damn, 1913. Just in time.
matt mccusker
The Rockefellers as well.
shane gillis
Just in time for the worst thing ever.
joe rogan
He disappeared from the steamship Dresden while traveling from Antwerp, Belgium, to Harwich, England.
On October 10, a Belgian sailor aboard a northeast steamer spotted a body floating in the water.
Upon further investigation, it turned out the body was Diesel's.
There was and remains a great deal of mystery surrounding his death.
It was officially judged as suicide, but many people believed and still believe that Diesel was murdered.
Duh.
matt mccusker
He had the Rockefellers after him, too, because they didn't want to...
joe rogan
I said, like, I looked at it and go, oh, it's the History Channel.
It's got to be legit.
Then I realized that's Ancient Aliens.
unidentified
The History Channel is basically the Ancient Aliens network now.
matt mccusker
Dude, I believe that.
shane gillis
We're done with facts.
We're done with facts.
joe rogan
Isn't history Finding Bigfoot?
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
Probably.
matt mccusker
Ancient Aliens had me for a while.
shane gillis
Ancient Aliens carrying that network.
It's a fun show to watch.
joe rogan
It's constantly on.
Remember, what's his fucking name?
Action Bronson.
He would get baked.
matt mccusker
That show was incredible.
joe rogan
Getting baked, watching Ancient Aliens.
shane gillis
That was a really great show.
matt mccusker
That was, for real, like a genius idea.
joe rogan
Brilliant idea!
shane gillis
That's actually not.
matt mccusker
I thought it was.
shane gillis
No, of course it is.
It is, but I'm saying...
joe rogan
It's pretty simple.
shane gillis
It's like, we should film this.
They were definitely getting high watching Ancient Aliens.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
Which is just so funny.
And they were like, set up a camera.
This is incredible.
matt mccusker
It's just such a good idea, because it requires nothing.
They would just walk around high.
shane gillis
Yeah, they would fuck around.
matt mccusker
While Ancient Aliens were there.
joe rogan
And it's hilarious.
shane gillis
It's one of the better shows.
joe rogan
Solid show.
Should've won an Emmy.
shane gillis
Should've.
joe rogan
Fucking criminals.
matt mccusker
True.
joe rogan
I bet I wasn't even nominated.
matt mccusker
True.
shane gillis
Oh, you had Bronson on this.
joe rogan
Yeah, a couple times.
Yeah, he's awesome.
I love that dude.
shane gillis
I lived in Queens.
I wanted to see him.
joe rogan
He's a great guy.
shane gillis
Turns out Queens is big and you don't see everyone.
joe rogan
That guy fucking, you know, he turned his whole life around.
Had a kid and realized, I'm fat.
I gotta get in shape.
And now he's like super stout.
matt mccusker
He Paul Wald.
joe rogan
Works out hard, man.
He works out hard.
He Paul Wald?
matt mccusker
Paul Wald did the same thing.
joe rogan
Oh, he used to be big, right?
matt mccusker
Yeah, he got in shape as well.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt mccusker
Turn his life around.
joe rogan
You ever thought about rocking a grill, Matt?
matt mccusker
Oh, dude.
shane gillis
You've been talking about this.
You've been talking about this.
joe rogan
I think we get grills to protect our parks.
shane gillis
I think, obviously, that's the move, dude.
matt mccusker
It'd be so hard to take him out.
joe rogan
It'd be really hard to talk.
shane gillis
I'll never take him out.
matt mccusker
You should be just talking like this.
I wanted to play.
joe rogan
You ever heard guys with grills talk?
It's a rough one.
Paul Wall knows how to do it, but he's had a grill in his mouth for 30 years.
matt mccusker
My whole life, yeah.
shane gillis
I want to get the fangs.
matt mccusker
I want to get the riff-raff fangs.
It's kind of classy, bro.
If you don't pig out on the grill.
joe rogan
Come on, like that.
Look at that.
matt mccusker
That is nice, man.
shane gillis
It's crazy how much he looks like Mike Rainey.
joe rogan
We need to call Johnny Dang.
That dude is always smiling.
If he's depressed, I'll be so sad.
Because he's always smiling.
matt mccusker
He's got to show you that grill.
joe rogan
Look at that.
matt mccusker
He's got to show you what to do.
joe rogan
Come on, son.
shane gillis
What to do, baby.
unidentified
Powwow.
shane gillis
Powwow.
Southern rap rules.
matt mccusker
So fucking tight, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt mccusker
He still raps, too, apparently.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
shane gillis
I think he's with Mexican OT and the guy we listened to on the way over here.
matt mccusker
Really?
joe rogan
The plug.
shane gillis
Big X, the plug.
matt mccusker
The plug.
shane gillis
Shit rocks.
Joe, you'd like that.
joe rogan
Do you think you'd wear a grill?
shane gillis
I would.
I swear to God, I will.
Now, obviously I'm not gonna wear it anywhere other than here.
joe rogan
Do you think Bud Light would have an issue with you rocking a grill?
shane gillis
Maybe.
I might get a phone call and I go, hey.
joe rogan
This is not on brand.
shane gillis
No, they got fucking Post Malone.
I can kind of do anything.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
matt mccusker
They got Post Malone.
shane gillis
That's what I always think.
I'm like, man, maybe I shouldn't do this.
I'm like, yeah, they got Post Malone.
joe rogan
Yeah.
You can do whatever you want.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
That's why they want you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt mccusker
Wildcard.
Say, guys, let me fucking work.
shane gillis
I'm gonna do what I do.
unidentified
I'm gonna talk about Nazis.
shane gillis
They go, please don't.
That was my favorite part of the Budweiser tour.
We're in there and they're like showing the labels from every year in the United States.
And then 1930 came around and it was like, perfect English, Budweiser.
It used to be like German, like, yeah, yeah.
1933, they're like, Budweiser, American Budweiser, the beer, American.
unidentified
Yeah.
matt mccusker
Anheuser Busch owned the rights to all the diesel engines in America.
shane gillis
But those are good Americans.
unidentified
Really?
shane gillis
Yeah, let's go, dude.
matt mccusker
Anheuser Busch rules.
He owns all the rights.
The guy, what is it, fucking, not, uh, Adolphus Busch, whatever, like the OG. Adolphus Busch.
shane gillis
Adolphus, by the way.
matt mccusker
Adolphus, exactly.
shane gillis
Let's go.
matt mccusker
Full name.
joe rogan
Super American.
shane gillis
No, that's a good American story.
matt mccusker
He went over, he met the diesel guy, and he was like, How dare you, dude.
unidentified
That's a great American story.
matt mccusker
He would rent hotels and just rent the whole thing out and just hand everyone like $10, $10, $10.
Met up with Diesel and was like, how much do you want for the rights to this engine?
Diesel's, people would charge, it was like 800,000 francs.
He looked at Bush and was like, 2 million francs.
And he was like, no problem, player.
Wrote him the check.
And he used to break, he would write them letters.
It took forever.
unidentified
It took forever to like...
matt mccusker
It didn't work right away.
He was like, all these guys fronted him a ton of money, and it just wasn't working.
So he'd get mad letters from people being like, what is this?
And Bush would break his balls.
He'd send him letters and be like, dude, come on, man.
What the fuck?
Just fucking with him.
So funny.
He was the bro.
shane gillis
That reminds me of Ulysses S. Grant when he was like selling his biography.
I think he sold it to like just two guys on a train for like 10 bucks.
And Mark Twain found out about it and was like, no, you fucking loser.
Yeah.
Obviously Grant was, he was hitting the fucking Budweiser.
He was hitting the stogies in fucking liquor.
matt mccusker
He was drinking responsibly.
shane gillis
He was extremely responsible.
That's one of his legends.
I think he sold his biography on like a train for like 10 bucks while he was responsible.
matt mccusker
I mean, it's gotta be pumped.
It was his first book.
Anyone gives you anything that you write, you're like, really?
shane gillis
I swear to God it was Mark Twain that was like, no.
matt mccusker
Yeah, what the fuck are you doing?
shane gillis
You saved America.
Why are you doing this?
joe rogan
Has anybody started taking down Ulysses as Grant statues yet?
shane gillis
They fucking better take it.
matt mccusker
No way.
shane gillis
No, he was the bro.
His story...
matt mccusker
He was good, right?
joe rogan
They've taken down Thomas Jefferson.
shane gillis
They took down T.J. Yeah, but Jefferson was...
joe rogan
He had him.
shane gillis
He was up to no good.
matt mccusker
He had him.
Ulysses didn't have him.
shane gillis
Ulysses owned slaves?
No, no, hold on.
matt mccusker
Oh, yeah, but he...
shane gillis
While he was dead broke at the lowest point of his life, he freed his slaves, and even his slaves were like, bro, you should...
matt mccusker
Yeah.
shane gillis
What are you doing?
matt mccusker
Yeah, yeah.
shane gillis
You can sell us.
And he was like, nah, bros.
Actually, there's no way they said that, but they were like, thank you.
joe rogan
So he freed them when he was poor.
shane gillis
While he was poor, he gave away his slave.
He came from a family that was abolitionists, and then he married into a family that had slaves.
joe rogan
Whoa.
shane gillis
Yeah.
And then he would go out and work with his slave, and people would see him and be like, what the fuck are you doing?
I don't know.
He was kind of a weirdo.
But he freed his slaves while he was poor.
joe rogan
Imagine there was a time where it was debatable whether or not it's cool to have slaves.
unidentified
Bro.
joe rogan
And some people are like, no.
They like it.
matt mccusker
Yeah, I mean, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
We're reading over the Century Company's contract that needed to be signed before publication.
Grant was ready to pick up his pen and sign the contract when Twain asked if he could read it before any signature was made.
Twain reviewed the contract and believed the 10% royalty being offered was too low and even exploitative.
Twain tried to convince Grant that he could give him a better deal, which would provide Grant with more money.
Grant was reluctant to back out of the contract that he and the publishers had negotiated.
He believed it would be dishonorable to back out after giving his word.
Twain tried to convince Grant that he should investigate a different publisher.
For example, American Publishing Company had published many of Twain's books and the company be able to bring in more profit than the Century Company.
Grant was still resistant to the advice when Fred suggested that the contract be set aside while they investigated the facts behind Twain's advice.
Grant felt loyalty towards the Century Company because of the work that he had done with the company while he was writing his articles on the Civil War battles.
Grant did agree, however, to listen to Fred and the contract was set aside for 24 hours.
Huh.
Interesting.
Twain told Grant that by selling the book through a subscription system, the book would produce thousands of dollars in sales.
Door to door salesmen, often Civil War veterans, would promote the book and get potential readers to place an order prior to publication.
Back in the day, that was like the new mixtape.
shane gillis
It saved Grant.
Grant was poor, and then all those sales made him rich.
But he died right away.
matt mccusker
Yeah, those dudes used to speak, too.
shane gillis
Right after he wrote it, yeah.
matt mccusker
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Probably celebrated with booze.
shane gillis
No, no, it was the Stogies, dude.
unidentified
Oh, was it?
shane gillis
He was always smoking a cigar.
He died, yeah.
joe rogan
Cancer?
shane gillis
Yeah.
matt mccusker
He was smoking like 50. How much was a day?
It was like 50 a day, dude.
unidentified
50?
matt mccusker
Something like that.
25...
unidentified
Definitely.
shane gillis
Yeah, it's a crazy number.
joe rogan
Sounds like Ron White.
matt mccusker
Really?
Puts him down?
shane gillis
Puts him down.
joe rogan
Puts those little cigarillos down.
matt mccusker
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
He gets you hooked on those things.
Those cigarillos.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're so easy.
matt mccusker
Do you inhale those like cigarettes?
unidentified
You can.
matt mccusker
Are they cigars, really?
joe rogan
You can.
matt mccusker
Remember Beatties?
joe rogan
Beatties?
matt mccusker
Beatties were a little thing.
When we were younger, they sold them in like gas stations and they were like, I don't know, they were like cigarettes, but they looked like cigarettes, but they were smaller.
And they were the harshest fucking things in the world.
shane gillis
I got black and milds for a while.
Wine, wood tip, black and milds.
I was inhaling the fuck out of those.
I got so sick.
joe rogan
There it is.
matt mccusker
Those things are crazy.
Get some of those in the woods when you were 10, dude.
joe rogan
So where are they from?
I don't know.
matt mccusker
Maybe like in India kind of thing?
joe rogan
It looks like India.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
You and your bros, you're like 10, 12 years old in the woods with some beaties, dude.
unidentified
It was nice.
joe rogan
Health risks and how to quit.
They're not a safer alternative to traditional cigarettes.
Duh.
matt mccusker
Yeah, no.
joe rogan
You can smoke these, though, as a little cigar.
matt mccusker
Oh, that's kind of nice if you want a little short.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I like them for.
matt mccusker
That's enough to sit down on a cigar for like half an hour.
It's kind of tight.
shane gillis
Yeah, you know how to a wedding where you have to pretend to like cigars?
matt mccusker
Yeah.
shane gillis
And you go, God damn, I'm missing the whole wedding.
matt mccusker
It's 45 minutes.
shane gillis
Shouts on, I gotta get in there.
Can't smoke a cigar with my uncles.
These guys stink.
joe rogan
Smoking bats.
shane gillis
Yeah, we went down and we smoked a couple of bats.
joe rogan
Smoked a couple of bats, boys.
shane gillis
Sober guys love smoking bats.
joe rogan
Oh, they do.
Because it's the one rush they can get.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
They can handle this.
shane gillis
I love smoking a stogie like a man.
joe rogan
Big cup of coffee.
shane gillis
Desperate to get fucked up.
joe rogan
I get it.
matt mccusker
Take a Xanax, dude.
unidentified
Don't do it.
shane gillis
Those things are terrible, dude.
matt mccusker
Those things are awful.
shane gillis
Yeah.
matt mccusker
Did you ever hear about the new snake venom thing people are doing?
Where you're like, it's called like Kambu.
Where you go and they give, I don't know if it's like you ingest a snake venom and like your eyes puff up and you start throwing up and shitting everywhere.
Sounds fun.
You don't get high from it at all.
shane gillis
You just get violently sick?
matt mccusker
But afterwards, apparently, you just feel like totally cleaned out or I don't know what it is.
shane gillis
Yeah, once you're not sick.
matt mccusker
No, I swear to God.
They say like it kills yeast, like candida stuff in your body.
Who says heavy metals?
joe rogan
Who says that?
matt mccusker
My brother, I don't know.
unidentified
Swim?
joe rogan
In certain cultures that don't have psychedelics, the rites of passage oftentimes are what's called an ordeal poison.
matt mccusker
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Ordeal poison is like something you go through.
It's like some horrific thing that poisons you.
And then when you're over, like, thank God that's over.
You feel good because you just had a near-death experience.
matt mccusker
That makes sense, actually.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It tricks your brain into thinking you're dying, probably.
You'd probably release all these amazing chemicals to make you realize you should have been a better person.
I could have been so much nicer!
Shit!
matt mccusker
I'll tell you what, I tried an LSD microdose recently.
I like the psilocybin better, man.
The LSD microdose just is relentless.
It's constant.
It's for like six straight hours.
You feel like liquidy.
It's weird.
I don't know.
It wasn't awful, but I remember just being like, this is just never fucking ended.
joe rogan
They gotta just hurry up and make all that stuff legal.
matt mccusker
They gotta, man.
joe rogan
Cut the shit.
unidentified
They have to.
joe rogan
Stop buying it from people making it in bathtubs with the Grateful Dead t-shirt on.
matt mccusker
Oh, yeah.
Every time.
joe rogan
So sketchy.
matt mccusker
I got this straight from the family, bro.
shane gillis
I was telling Matt, I had some bathtub fucking mushrooms yesterday.
Dude, yesterday, dude.
matt mccusker
That's another one.
shane gillis
No, I've never had mushrooms.
So it was like a chocolate bar.
It was like, all right.
They were like, four blocks is a gram.
joe rogan
Okay.
shane gillis
So I was like, alright.
I'll have one fucking block.
I'm fine.
I was high in 15 minutes.
It was that fast.
matt mccusker
Dude, they have these analogs.
shane gillis
That's not mushrooms, dude.
matt mccusker
They have synthetics they're making now.
joe rogan
Well, it's just they're not making them in the same places where they make aspirin.
shane gillis
Yeah, true.
matt mccusker
Yeah, true.
joe rogan
Who knows who the fuck is making these things?
matt mccusker
That's what I'm saying, dude.
Even with the weed edibles, dude, they can get gummies and get a distillate of synthetic cannabinoids and shh, shh, shh.
You're just eating like K2 or something.
joe rogan
Well, you're definitely...
They're not regular.
Like, you get a 200 milligram once and it's fine, and then you get a 200 milligram and you're on Pluto.
Like, this is not the same.
I don't think anybody's doing independent third-party testing of weed gummies.
matt mccusker
No, not at all.
shane gillis
No, the third-party testing is watching the other guy first.
Who just ate him.
And they go, alright, he's fine.
joe rogan
You've never seen anybody eat gummies like Joey Diaz.
I was with him on a plane once.
He had a panic attack in the middle of the flight.
And he told me, he goes, I had a panic attack in the middle of the flight.
And he goes, but now I'm back!
And he pops two more.
250 milligrams each.
Two stars of death.
shane gillis
How?
joe rogan
He just does it.
He likes being scared.
It's fun.
When you're around him and you're scared too, it's fun.
matt mccusker
That is kind of fun.
shane gillis
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, it's fun.
shane gillis
You guys, both you guys like being scared.
matt mccusker
No, the best is when the...
unidentified
I hate it.
matt mccusker
The weed edible, when it breaks, it's the best fucking feeling.
shane gillis
Yeah, when you're done?
matt mccusker
Yeah, but it's like...
shane gillis
Yeah, but what's the point of that?
matt mccusker
The release.
shane gillis
When you're just back to how you were earlier?
matt mccusker
Yeah, because it's like mundane reality.
You're like, mm-hmm.
You eat weed edibles, and you're like, ah!
And then you get the release, and you're like, thank God.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're back.
matt mccusker
Finally grateful for once in my pathetic, shitty life.
shane gillis
Yeah, it's a little reality check.
joe rogan
It also makes you really thankful that you're alive.
shane gillis
I understand that, but people are, like, I'm not, like, they're smoking weed at, like, parties.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
matt mccusker
For sure.
shane gillis
I don't want to have that experience while I'm in public.
joe rogan
Oh, right.
shane gillis
And then come back, like, during the party, like...
joe rogan
Just hang in there, Shane.
You'll be fine.
shane gillis
I get high a lot.
joe rogan
I got high last night.
unidentified
You just get high all the time.
joe rogan
My thing is, you're going to hang in there.
matt mccusker
A different part of your mind where you go, like, Yeah, but what if I didn't give in to this weird thought loop, and then you don't give in to it for three seconds.
shane gillis
I did that, so last night, we left the comedy club, we were out at a bar.
I was like, I can't believe how strong that mushroom was.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
shane gillis
I was like, I'm hungry, I haven't eaten all day.
I went, I ate a gyro in the cold by myself, by a windy bench, just like...
I literally got up from the table while we were all drinking and I was like, I gotta go outside.
I left for 45 minutes.
And then I came back.
I fought it.
I was like, while I was eating the Hero, I was like, I gotta stop.
Why am I being a pussy right now?
I'm gonna plow through this.
joe rogan
That's another fucking food choice.
shane gillis
I'm gonna drink my way out of this.
matt mccusker
There you go.
There you go.
Adolphus was like, yes, Shane.
unidentified
Adolphus was like, no.
shane gillis
Don't let the mushrooms consume you.
Power through it.
unidentified
All right, Adolphus.
joe rogan
Euro's a solid choice.
matt mccusker
That is a great...
shane gillis
It was big.
Also, it was very funny.
So I left the bar, and I was high on mushrooms enough to be like, how do I get food?
And then I was like, man, that's so pathetic.
I'm in a city, and I'm like...
Food.
How do you find food?
And then there was a flashing gyro light on it.
Like, it was one of those street vendors.
And I was like, oh, that's what those lights are for, is for dumbasses that are like, food, food!
Like a flashing light.
joe rogan
That's exactly what they're for.
shane gillis
Yeah, I was like, it's a bug light for a guy like me.
It's like...
matt mccusker
It's a bug light.
joe rogan
It is a bug light.
shane gillis
It's a total bug light.
I went and got zapped, dude.
It was cold as fucking windy last night.
And then I was like, it also sucks now, people know who I am a little, so like, the next guy was like, looking at me, I'm in the cold by myself.
joe rogan
Bro, this is a reoccurring theme.
People at the movie theater see you by yourself.
shane gillis
That was rough.
Yeah, I like being by myself, but when someone sees me...
unidentified
Oh, you realize that?
joe rogan
Now you're getting famous.
You realize that's a bit of an issue, right?
shane gillis
Yeah, it's uncomfortable.
I don't like it at all.
unidentified
Yeah.
matt mccusker
Go in disguise.
shane gillis
I hate it.
unidentified
You know how hard it is for me to disguise?
shane gillis
Dude, people can see me from my lurched-over walk.
Sitting on a bench by myself eating a sandwich.
joe rogan
I just love that mustache.
shane gillis
That mustache is macked.
matt mccusker
It's so nice.
Well, mushrooms now, people are really getting into the genetics of them.
Like, they're ramping the strength of those things up.
joe rogan
Well, there's some different strains.
matt mccusker
Yeah, dude.
Pansyans and all that shit.
They're fucking wild, man.
And now it could be like, you can eat a gram of mushrooms, it could be a regular gram of mushrooms, or it can be eight times stronger.
So it's like...
joe rogan
Well, this town is filled with those psychedelic adventurer characters.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a lot of those here.
shane gillis
I got hit, literally, last night.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of those here.
shane gillis
I thought that was going to be an easy, nice evening.
matt mccusker
There's synthetics, too, now.
So, like, if you're running, like, a giant op where you're selling all these, like, your grow might get fucked up.
You can order a chemical offline.
Totally legal.
You can order those offline.
All you gotta do is say, research purposes, yes.
And you can get this powder that's, like, similar to mushrooms.
You can just put that into chocolates and...
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Is it psilocybin?
matt mccusker
It's a psilocybin analogs, maybe, so it's close.
joe rogan
Oh, really?
matt mccusker
Yeah.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And you could put that in your stuff that you're selling people?
matt mccusker
I'm sure you could.
joe rogan
Oh, God.
matt mccusker
How dirty.
You've got to think about it.
joe rogan
That's the problem with it being illegal.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
You're not buying it from Budweiser.
Anheuser-Busch sold their own mushrooms.
Mushroom light.
Let's go.
Anheuser-Busch.
Come on now.
A mushroom light.
matt mccusker
Brother.
joe rogan
How good would it be?
matt mccusker
We would be Vikings, dude.
shane gillis
We would be kings.
Nothing could stop us.
joe rogan
Maybe it would change the whole culture of the country.
Can you imagine?
If people just like ubiquitous mushroom use across the entire...
There'd be a lot to figure out.
There'd be a lot of mistakes.
shane gillis
Where's food?
joe rogan
It wouldn't be smooth.
It would take a long time.
shane gillis
Where's food is number one.
joe rogan
Food.
People would make some dope food on mushrooms.
I bet the pizza you make on mushrooms.
unidentified
You're not even that hungry when you're on mushrooms.
joe rogan
I'm picturing you out there in your backyard with your pizza oven with your fucking ladle on mushrooms laying down the basil.
shane gillis
The dough would be impossible.
joe rogan
Oh, you buy it.
You buy it made.
You buy the dough.
shane gillis
Yeah, you buy the whole thing.
You buy DiGiorno.
You take mushrooms and then you buy the whole thing.
And you make La Mer make it.
Hold on.
You want to know the best part about how La Mer makes DiGiorno?
joe rogan
How?
shane gillis
He doesn't time it.
He's like we're about three YouTube videos away Behind me like how long since YouTube video we're about two more YouTube videos away from the smell probably go off The smell was strong and I was I was like are you sure?
This is our one DiGiorno in the house.
If this fucks up, we're fucked.
matt mccusker
Oh my god!
joe rogan
Jamie, what is the best frozen pizza?
There's got to be like a fucking Mercedes of frozen pizzas.
What is it?
jamie vernon
You can get some local ones in the cities you're at because they'll make take-and-bakes.
matt mccusker
There's like mom's bake-at-home pizza.
That's a big change.
unidentified
Oh, that's nice.
joe rogan
But a local one is the move.
That's the move.
You get like just the actual pizza that they serve you.
matt mccusker
They do deep dish, yeah.
Chicago does like deep dish, all those places.
joe rogan
That's the move.
shane gillis
Take home.
joe rogan
That's a fucking move.
You're actually making the real pizza.
shane gillis
Again, you don't need pizza in your house.
matt mccusker
That's true.
shane gillis
Because you're going to eat it.
matt mccusker
You're going to eat it day one.
joe rogan
One night we went over Rapolo's next to the club.
We got like fucking ten giant pizzas, the big giant ones, and just gave them to everybody at the bar.
shane gillis
Pizza rocks.
joe rogan
Oh, so fast.
I knew I was eating garbage.
I knew it was terrible for me.
I loved every second of it.
And I powered through.
I was fine.
I know it's not good for me.
But it's good for me.
It's good for the soul, occasionally.
matt mccusker
Let loose, yeah.
joe rogan
Good for the soul.
matt mccusker
80-20 rule.
20% junk, 80% clean.
shane gillis
Matthew, can you hit me a Bud Light?
matt mccusker
Absolutely.
joe rogan
You need some bullshit carbs in your life.
matt mccusker
Yeah, it's like the snake venom, dude.
Whatever they call that thing.
joe rogan
Every now and then you want some bullshit carbs in your life.
You want a fucking big bowl of spaghetti and meatballs.
shane gillis
Yes.
joe rogan
Give it to me.
Give me, give me, give me.
matt mccusker
I gotta get like pulled off, dude.
Homemade spaghetti.
I gotta like pulled off the pot.
I'll put myself in a coma.
I can't stop going back.
joe rogan
With a good sundae sauce.
You know, when they fucking got that sauce cooking all day, just bubbling up on the stove, and the smells, and all the oils are on the top, and you gotta stir it, and you see the sausage in there, and the barjol, and meatballs.
Oh, baby.
shane gillis
I never, never...
unidentified
Baby.
shane gillis
My mom cooks like a fucking moron.
matt mccusker
We were jarred sauce.
Yeah, we were jarred sauce in the household.
joe rogan
My grandmother made everything from scratch.
The sauce, the pasta.
She'd be on the kitchen table with the flour and the rolling pin.
shane gillis
My grandma was mean.
joe rogan
Mine wasn't nice either.
shane gillis
She didn't cook anything.
matt mccusker
Irish houses are canned sauce.
shane gillis
Irish houses are, yeah.
matt mccusker
Smooth canned sauce.
That's that.
Spaghetti's cooked in five seconds and then you just ground beef.
shane gillis
You get wet lasagna.
The lasagna's soaking wet.
The last piece is in a puddle.
It falls apart.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
What is this?
matt mccusker
Our meatballs, my mom would just take hamburger meat.
You're supposed to like veal pork.
It was just a burger.
And then she would put breadcrumbs in it, too.
She was like, that's how my dad liked them.
So she would just cram like a fucking baseball-sized burger.
shane gillis
That's good, though.
joe rogan
That's good, dude.
matt mccusker
Drop it into canned sauce.
And we were like, yes.
This shit rules.
shane gillis
I know I've been talking about it a lot with you.
Hamburger Helper.
Bro.
joe rogan
Hamburger Helper's delicious.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
shane gillis
It's so good.
Fucking delicious.
I gotta have Hamburger Helper soon.
joe rogan
It's very good.
shane gillis
Maybe tonight.
Maybe me and Lamezi will...
joe rogan
Bro.
Have you drunk a solid chili?
Like a real chili?
shane gillis
Yeah, chili.
joe rogan
Oh, like a real one.
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
And by the way, I like beans.
shane gillis
Beans rule.
joe rogan
Chili with beans is a good move.
shane gillis
What are you shaking your head at, Jamie?
joe rogan
Over here, they say chili doesn't have beans.
matt mccusker
I don't fuck with beans, really, but I'll eat them in chili.
I don't fuck with beans either, but in chili, I'll eat them.
The texture, they're like powdery.
shane gillis
Beans rule.
joe rogan
With fucking peppers and the tomatoes in there.
matt mccusker
Chili, I'll eat them in chili.
joe rogan
I like them in chili.
I like them in chili.
matt mccusker
I like them in chili, but...
joe rogan
A solid chili?
shane gillis
Baked beans?
matt mccusker
Fuck no, dude.
shane gillis
Oh my god, dude.
I lived off judgment.
I was eating baked beans as my only meal for several years.
matt mccusker
You're eating like the Dennis the Menace bad guy, dude.
joe rogan
Probably.
With barbecue?
Like little baked beans with barbecue?
matt mccusker
I don't fuck with beans either, man.
I'm...
Only in chili, or in soup.
I don't like beans at a Mexican place.
shane gillis
Matt, this is crap, what you're saying.
matt mccusker
It's true, I don't like the powdery texture.
shane gillis
It's a nice texture.
What do you like, something more smooth and viscous?
matt mccusker
Viscous.
shane gillis
Eww.
matt mccusker
Salty.
shane gillis
I know what you like.
matt mccusker
Like clams and stuff.
unidentified
Nut.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Nut.
shane gillis
Oysters.
matt mccusker
I love eating nut.
shane gillis
Yeah, I bet nut, if I was into it, I bet nut's fucking good.
joe rogan
Probably.
If you're really interested in it.
matt mccusker
Yeah, especially if you get into it, you know, different, like, years, different types of dudes.
joe rogan
If I had one pasta, it would be linguine with white clam sauce.
shane gillis
That's a good one.
joe rogan
Done well.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
When it's done really well.
Oh, my God.
shane gillis
Yeah.
matt mccusker
It's gonna be fucking good.
joe rogan
Oh, it's good.
shane gillis
Italian food is so good.
joe rogan
They do a lot, right?
unidentified
They do a lot.
joe rogan
They make cars good.
They look good.
They don't run good.
They look good.
They break a lot.
They look good.
They're good at paintings, good at sculptures, good at food.
matt mccusker
Not good at handling a wave of an upper respiratory infection, though.
Italy got fucking crushed.
joe rogan
They scared the fuck out of the whole world, too.
Everybody's like, oh my god, that's coming to us?
They're all in their apartments, singing out the windows.
matt mccusker
They got fucking annihilated.
joe rogan
Yelling at people to go outside?
Yeah.
They were the first to lock people down, too.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
They were like, what the fuck is going on here?
matt mccusker
Well, they said it was in the Fashion Week, I think.
They had people come in from China and stuff in the Fashion Week.
joe rogan
You've got an entire population that never has seen a vitamin.
They're drinking wine every day.
They all smoke cigarettes.
They're eating nothing but lasagna.
They're eating pasta.
By the way, they're a lot thinner than us, though.
That's what's crazy.
matt mccusker
Yeah, it's weird.
joe rogan
There's such carb-heavy food over there, and they look great.
shane gillis
Yeah, but they don't munch like us.
Even in Spain.
I was in Spain.
Everything you eat is Mediterranean.
unidentified
The portions and shit, yeah.
shane gillis
Yeah, they take it easy.
I was over there at the house and shit.
joe rogan
What do you think it is?
You think we're just gluttons?
Is that what a lot of it is?
shane gillis
Maybe.
joe rogan
On this guy that's Tucker Carlson thing, they were saying, this scientist that he had on, or this guy that he had on that used to work for the pharmacy, was saying that 10% of all food stamps, the number one thing that people buy with food stamps is soda.
matt mccusker
Yeah, it's not a good fact.
shane gillis
Well, soda's so good.
joe rogan
It's so good.
shane gillis
I really don't drink it ever.
joe rogan
I don't either, but an ice cold Coca-Cola on ice?
Like a real Coke.
shane gillis
Burger, fries, Coke.
joe rogan
Oh, a real Coke.
matt mccusker
Root beer.
joe rogan
Not a Diet Coke.
I love Diet Coke, just for the flavor.
But I feel fine when I drink a Diet Coke.
It never makes me feel weird.
When I drink a Coke, my body's like, what are you doing?
matt mccusker
Dude, there's a lot of people who, for real, don't understand how sugar works at all.
I used to work with guys that would put 12 sugars in their coffee.
And then I'd be like, dude, you're going to get diabetes.
And they're like, it runs in my family.
If I'm going to get it, I'm going to get it.
And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
There's two types of it, bro.
I'm like, you're going to get it.
You're going to have that.
If you put 12 sugars every day in your coffee, he's like, bro, if it comes from me, it comes from me.
I'm like, no, man.
joe rogan
Well, that was one of the number one reasons why people died of COVID. Findings show that number one purchased by Snap Households are soft drinks, which accounted for 5% of the dollars they spent on food.
Wow.
Okay, so this guy was saying it was 10%, but apparently this is saying that it's 5%.
It might have changed, but people drink a lot of fucking soda.
This is 2016. It said that down there.
2017. I mean, I'm sure it's more.
Look, it's so goddamn addictive.
shane gillis
I get it, though.
unidentified
If you're on food stamps...
shane gillis
Let it ride, bro.
Why would I drink water right now?
joe rogan
You don't want to get out of there.
You don't want to be on food stamps forever.
Drink water.
It's cheaper.
shane gillis
You know a good way to get off food stamps?
joe rogan
Eat food.
What?
Get a job?
shane gillis
No.
What?
Ascend to the next life.
joe rogan
Oh, that's it?
shane gillis
That's the only way?
No.
joe rogan
Jesus.
shane gillis
I was on food stamps when I was drinking soda.
Call it a day.
matt mccusker
Do you ever see when guys carry around a personal two liter?
joe rogan
Jesus.
matt mccusker
Yeah, that's a wild move I've seen dudes do.
joe rogan
That's a crazy commitment to bad health.
matt mccusker
Yeah, you hold it around, walk around.
joe rogan
Just carrying a jug of sugar water.
jamie vernon
To be fair, it's also the top purchase of non-Snap households also.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, I'm sure.
matt mccusker
Oh, there you go.
joe rogan
What's his, like, milk is number one?
No, soft drinks.
unidentified
Well...
joe rogan
Snap households, so it's more with the people that are on food stamps than it is with people who aren't.
Which is interesting.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
Quite a bit more.
jamie vernon
Four percent to five percent.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
More than five percent.
matt mccusker
I think your soda's taking a hard hit, too, because a lot of people are just off it.
joe rogan
I don't think so.
matt mccusker
Really?
joe rogan
I think it's fucking...
It's fine.
matt mccusker
Yeah, I mean, it's...
People love it.
People love it.
joe rogan
They can't help it.
They lie.
They lie.
They say they don't drink it.
They're drinking it all day long.
matt mccusker
I don't fucking touch it.
I don't drink soda at all now.
joe rogan
I drink Diet Coke.
I drink Diet Coke and Diet Dr. Pepper.
I'll drink those.
But you know what I really like is Zevia's.
Zevia's a guilt-free coke.
Guilt-free soda, rather.
What's it made with?
It's sweetened with stevia.
matt mccusker
That's the only artificial sweetener I can have.
All the other ones, I'm like...
joe rogan
Dude, it's fucking good.
They make a cream soda.
It's fucking great.
They make a root beer.
It's fucking great.
A grape soda.
It's great.
Zevia's great.
It's really good.
matt mccusker
Check it out.
joe rogan
And it's basically guilt-free.
It's just carbonated water with some stevia in it and some funky flavors.
matt mccusker
It's not bad.
joe rogan
What does Zevia use for their flavors?
I drink it all the time, dude.
I'm addicted to it.
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
Don't say that.
Son of a bitch.
shane gillis
The secret ingredient is cancer.
matt mccusker
Doesn't Diet Coke fuck you up, though?
joe rogan
I'm sure it does, if you're a pussy.
unidentified
I don't know.
Trump dog's crushing 40 a day.
shane gillis
He's going to be a president.
joe rogan
He's going to be 90. When he's 80, you don't tell him to stop drinking Diet Coke.
You say ride that fucking boat right into the rocks.
matt mccusker
Yeah, it's so tight.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
I like that that's the argument against Biden.
To me, obviously, there's no argument Trump's more cognitive than Joe Biden.
joe rogan
Yes, of course.
shane gillis
But it's not like he's no spring chicken.
He's going to be fucking geezed up himself.
joe rogan
No, if the Republicans wanted the best spokesman, it's Vivek.
matt mccusker
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
That guy's an animal.
matt mccusker
Smooth, dude.
I was just praising him on the way here.
unidentified
He's an animal.
matt mccusker
I've been watching him on The Breakfast Club, man.
I like him.
He's so good.
joe rogan
He's so composed.
And he's only 38, which is what you want.
You want someone who actually has a future.
shane gillis
38 might be a little young.
joe rogan
I'm gonna leave my mark.
Bang.
You know, you don't want that.
matt mccusker
I like him, man.
The more I watch of him, the more I like him.
joe rogan
I like him a lot.
matt mccusker
I like Bobby, dude.
I like Bobby's my top choice, but Vivek is...
joe rogan
Vivek says a lot of very reasonable shit.
matt mccusker
He does.
You hear his thing on abortion?
joe rogan
What'd he say?
matt mccusker
If you're a man and you procreate with a woman, you're responsible financially for that baby and that woman.
His thing is to expand child support to the woman and the baby.
joe rogan
That would change a lot.
matt mccusker
For 18 years.
And he was like, I think that brings both...
Wait.
unidentified
What?
matt mccusker
He was saying, if you get a lady pregnant...
shane gillis
You gotta pay for both of them?
matt mccusker
Oh yeah.
Because he was like, the woman has to bear the biological...
shane gillis
Hold on a second.
What about how women are equal?
matt mccusker
Yeah, Vivek's not...
shane gillis
Hold on a second.
matt mccusker
Vivek's not dealing with that.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it's not an equal job.
matt mccusker
There's not an equal responsibility.
joe rogan
It's not an equal job.
matt mccusker
No, I like that.
shane gillis
You guys want to play double child support?
Is that what you guys are arguing for?
matt mccusker
Yeah, I think you should.
joe rogan
Well listen, child support...
shane gillis
Why?
joe rogan
It's up to the woman's discretion how she spends it anyway, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, she doesn't have to document that it's only being spent on a child.
matt mccusker
Oh no, they can do whatever they want.
Spend on their new goddamn boyfriend.
joe rogan
A woman raising a child...
shane gillis
Yeah, you could have paid for her and the child and she's got a new boyfriend?
Well, you'll think twice?
I would punch Vivek in the fucking mouth, dude.
matt mccusker
You'll think twice for a nuttin' in these hoes.
You'll think twice for a nuttin' in these hoes.
shane gillis
I'm not thinking about Vivek when I'm nuttin' in these hoes, dude.
matt mccusker
It's Vivek.
joe rogan
My bad.
shane gillis
It's not Vivek?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Vivek, like cake.
shane gillis
Vivek?
joe rogan
Vivek rhymes with cake.
unidentified
Oh, nice.
joe rogan
Yeah, it took me a while, too.
matt mccusker
That was Vivek.
joe rogan
Try Ramaswamy.
Try that one.
shane gillis
Ramaswamy.
matt mccusker
I want a Hindu president so bad, too.
joe rogan
He would be dope.
matt mccusker
Dude, everyone's against Hindu presidents.
I'm like, dude, we need to get some Hinduism going.
joe rogan
He's saying some wild shit about getting rid of the CIA and getting rid of the FBI. Like, bro.
Yeah, he's going to put you in a convertible.
shane gillis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ah, shouldn't we have a roof here?
Shouldn't the car have a roof?
Nah, just get in the back.
joe rogan
What are all those men doing in the grassy knoll?
shane gillis
Ah, guys lifting up an umbrella.
That's weird.
matt mccusker
Yeah, I like him, man.
unidentified
Ah, fuck.
matt mccusker
I mean, dude, I think the future's bright.
I think we'll get some...
shane gillis
Oh, that's nice to hear.
joe rogan
That's so optimistic.
matt mccusker
Well, you can't bullshit really anymore.
People are going to start expecting, like, if you're a president ten years from now, at least, if you're not sitting down for a three-hour long-form, people are going to be like, fuck this guy.
That's like a Shamwell guy.
That is true.
You can't just do infomercials.
joe rogan
That is true.
matt mccusker
They can sit and chop it up.
Bobby Kennedy can sit and chop it up.
It's going to start being like, I'm good.
joe rogan
They get mad at Bobby Kennedy.
matt mccusker
I love that guy.
shane gillis
What are they mad at?
joe rogan
Well, it's always vaccines.
matt mccusker
It's not that unreasonable.
There's an adjutant in them to evoke an immune response.
shane gillis
Adjutant evoke.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it used to be mercury and sometimes it's aluminum.
shane gillis
I'm sick of these fucking adjutants.
joe rogan
It's a real thing, and it's wild how many people are not willing to even look at it as a possibility.
matt mccusker
It's religious.
joe rogan
It can cause a problem with some folks.
shane gillis
Yeah, it became a thing.
matt mccusker
It's a religious thing, because if you're a full scientist, your religious worldview is that we're one day going to conquer the mysteries of our existence via technological progress.
Vaccines are a big part of that, so if you're like...
They're definitely good, but maybe they're kind of fucking us up.
joe rogan
Well, it's like most things.
It's like most things.
They absolutely do work.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They absolutely do work in a lot of ways.
matt mccusker
Dude, you can die from Tylenol.
If I took too many Tylenols, my liver will shut down.
joe rogan
Well, it's also different people have different responses.
You know, I can eat Brazil nuts all day long.
You give them to some people, they drop dead.
matt mccusker
Exactly.
shane gillis
Yeah, I can take a Zen pick and my fucking pussy will fall off.
joe rogan
Yeah, your pussy rots out.
Charred pussy.
Satan pussy.
Whoa, imagine if you're religious and your fucking, your pussy starts showing like scorch signs.
shane gillis
Yeah.
Like it's hell.
joe rogan
It's hell pulling at your pussy.
shane gillis
Makes sense.
joe rogan
God, because you're too lazy to put down the churros?
Churros are good, dude.
matt mccusker
You ever go to Disneyland?
joe rogan
Disneyland, you smell that churro stand?
Oh, I'm like, I'm at Disneyland, I'm getting a fucking churro.
I'm getting a churro, and I'm getting a turkey leg.
shane gillis
Turkey leg's nice.
joe rogan
Turkey leg's the bomb digger.
shane gillis
Turkey legs rule.
joe rogan
It's the best choice of food.
It's probably filled with chemicals, right?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's probably not real smoke.
unidentified
Oh, dude.
joe rogan
They probably didn't really smoke that turkey.
matt mccusker
That was a headless turkey, by the way, in like a fucking box.
shane gillis
Yeah, I was made in a bio lab in Ukraine.
joe rogan
It's the best choice, though.
shane gillis
What's up with those bio labs in Ukraine?
joe rogan
Do you want to feel good about your food?
Yeah, what is up with those bio labs?
unidentified
I don't know.
matt mccusker
They found bio labs there?
joe rogan
Oh, they found a lot of them.
shane gillis
Bro, what do you think we were doing over there?
matt mccusker
True.
joe rogan
I mean, that's probably one of the ways I was like, guys, we got you.
We got you.
Cover your back.
unidentified
Hold on.
matt mccusker
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
Settle down.
shane gillis
What is Burisma doing?
I don't know.
Anything.
I don't know anything.
matt mccusker
It's all gonna come out.
joe rogan
I went into...
shane gillis
Wait, who blew up the Nord Stream pipeline?
I don't even know.
joe rogan
I don't know either.
shane gillis
There's all types of stuff I don't even know.
joe rogan
How the false Russia biolab story came to circulate among the U.S. far right.
shane gillis
Let's go.
joe rogan
So is it false?
unidentified
Shit.
shane gillis
It circulated among me?
matt mccusker
Hold on.
joe rogan
It was a lurid and difficult to believe claim that Ukraine was developing biological weapons with the assistance of the U.S. government.
In fact, U.S. assistance to Ukrainian biological labs has been targeted at strengthening public health measures.
Both the U.S. and Ukraine have also signed a treaty vowing to never produce or use biological weapons.
shane gillis
We promise.
matt mccusker
Dude, we funded Wuhan.
joe rogan
But hold on a second.
No, but we promise.
But this is their saying.
U.S. assistance to Ukrainian biological labs exists.
But has been targeted at strengthening public health measures.
So they do have biological labs.
Now, by the way, there's a long history of biological warfare over there that I was on this show called Joe Rogan Questions Everything.
And one of the things that I did is I interviewed this former Soviet scientist.
And he's like, dude, we had trenches filled with anthrax.
He goes, there was all sorts of plans in place that if anything went sideways, that they were going to figure out a way to poison Americans.
I mean, it's a legitimate biological weapons tactic to develop.
But why would you, look, why would you think that if we develop nuclear weapons, we'd develop hydrogen weapons, we'd develop all these fucking supersonic missiles, we wouldn't fuck with viruses.
matt mccusker
It's fucking bullshit.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
shane gillis
Of course they would.
We do.
joe rogan
100% we do.
shane gillis
That's what just killed, probably, that's just what killed a bunch of people.
joe rogan
It probably had something to do with that.
shane gillis
Shut down our whole entire world.
joe rogan
They most certainly developed that in the lab.
That has been established now.
They know, they literally know that the strain that came out.
shane gillis
Are you sure the guy didn't fucking eat a bat and a penguin?
joe rogan
A penguin!
shane gillis
Are you sure?
joe rogan
Yeah, the wet market.
It's a wet market, but it's weird because that became political.
shane gillis
Wet market was nice though, because then they filmed the wet market and you're like, yeah, obviously.
joe rogan
Right, but then the people on the left wanted to believe it came from the wet market.
unidentified
Because the people on the right were saying it's the China virus.
joe rogan
It was a lab.
It was a lab.
No, that's a conspiracy theory.
So people argued as if their side had a win.
It has to be the wet market.
Because if it doesn't, then the fascists win.
They had this crazy connection to the source of a fucking pandemic disease.
matt mccusker
Dude, I caught it, and I was like, this doesn't feel like anything I've ever had before.
It really wasn't that bad.
It was two days fever, but then I was just hacking up.
It wasn't even mucus.
It was like liquid.
I was like, what the fuck is this shit?
Me and my wife were both like, dude, this feels like some weird artificial something.
It felt bizarre.
joe rogan
Everybody said that it felt alien.
matt mccusker
It did, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, it felt alien.
matt mccusker
I think it swirled your brain.
shane gillis
It was a new type of being sick.
joe rogan
Yeah, a new type of being sick, yeah.
matt mccusker
Champed it, though.
joe rogan
Did you take vitamins or anything back then?
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
matt mccusker
I was taking them.
joe rogan
Most people that really got hit hard, they don't suck.
shane gillis
I was more of a vitamins guy, so I was fine.
joe rogan
He was drinking beer.
shane gillis
Beer works.
Well, no, it doesn't.
For the record.
joe rogan
Responsible.
shane gillis
No, it doesn't.
joe rogan
You're a spokesman now.
You've got to be careful about your claims.
shane gillis
I'm very responsible.
matt mccusker
You could shit it out.
You could diarrhea it out.
shane gillis
It actually...
joe rogan
What is this, the pangolin?
jamie vernon
Yeah, have you seen it?
shane gillis
Oh, that thing looks fucking delicious.
matt mccusker
Is that that bastard that took down...
joe rogan
Prehistoric, man.
shane gillis
Look at that motherfucker.
joe rogan
You know they curl up in a ball?
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
shane gillis
Yeah, it's just their armadillo.
joe rogan
They're armored, man.
You can't even cut that shit.
Look how cool they are.
God, that looks like it belongs a million years ago, doesn't it?
shane gillis
It's a good guy.
joe rogan
What a cool-looking animal.
Fuck, that thing's wild-looking.
shane gillis
Joe, what's your favorite animal?
joe rogan
If I had one that I'd love to look at...
shane gillis
I knew you'd have an answer.
joe rogan
If I had one I'd love to look at...
For me, it's always primates.
shane gillis
Always private.
unidentified
I disagree.
joe rogan
If I could find one animal that I would see- I couldn't disagree more.
That one animal that I could go check out, it would be the Bondo ape.
unidentified
Compared to a river otter?
joe rogan
Yeah.
These otters are cute.
shane gillis
You like watching the otters?
joe rogan
They fuck each other up.
You ever see river otter wars?
shane gillis
Yeah, when they fight, it's fun.
unidentified
They get wars.
shane gillis
They have like turf wars?
joe rogan
A gang comes after another gang.
They fucking do that.
shane gillis
You ever see monkeys see magic tricks?
unidentified
No.
shane gillis
That's fun.
joe rogan
Is it?
shane gillis
Dudes go to the zoo and do magic tricks, the monkeys go.
Really?
Dude, it's always...
The monkey acts like he's not watching.
joe rogan
Bro, you just stuff your snot rag right back in your pocket?
matt mccusker
Yeah, man.
shane gillis
It's like a hanky, dude.
You're a man.
matt mccusker
Handkerchief, man.
joe rogan
You're showing it to the monkey.
shane gillis
You're fully hanky.
unidentified
Oh, look at the monkey, bro.
joe rogan
Look at the monkey.
The monkey freaked out.
shane gillis
Show that again, Jamie.
joe rogan
Show that again.
Watch this.
Check it out, dude.
unidentified
What the fuck?
shane gillis
Every single time they go.
matt mccusker
It's like, oh shit!
joe rogan
This is crazy!
That's amazing.
shane gillis
There it is.
matt mccusker
Now you see it, now you don't.
joe rogan
Look at him, he's like, this is amazing.
matt mccusker
Oh, that's so fucking funny.
joe rogan
That makes sense why I like magic so much.
shane gillis
Yeah, magic rules.
matt mccusker
Yeah, it's awesome.
shane gillis
It is crazy.
joe rogan
But if there's one animal that I can go see, it's called the Bondo ape.
It's an enormous chimpanzee that lives in one specific area of the Congo.
They used to think it was mythological, but now they have tissue samples, they have skulls, they have a crested skull like a gorilla.
They nest on the ground like gorillas and they're huge.
They're like six feet tall chimpanzees.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah, and the locals have two different types of chimps.
Look at the size of them.
matt mccusker
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, one they call tree beaters, the other one they call lion killers.
shane gillis
They cut that guy's throat?
matt mccusker
What the fuck?
joe rogan
They shot him.
They shot him at an airport.
Yeah.
shane gillis
They shot him at an airport?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Look at the size of them.
Oh, that looks like a gorilla to me.
matt mccusker
Yeah, that's a big boy.
joe rogan
That's a gorilla.
shane gillis
Is that that doctor with a Bondo ape on you?
joe rogan
Listen, there's a guy named Carl Armand who's a Swiss wildlife photographer.
shane gillis
You did a magic trick?
joe rogan
He dedicated his life to find these things.
It's a documented animal.
They know it's a real thing now.
They have videos of them.
They're really big chimpanzees.
And they don't think necessarily it's a different species.
They think it's like a different...
Like the Clydesdales.
It's still a horse.
But it's like a crazy big horse.
But there's this one area called...
I think it's called Bili in the Congo that has this enormous chimpanzee.
matt mccusker
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I would want to see that.
shane gillis
I don't like chimpanzees.
joe rogan
No?
You didn't like Chimp Nation?
shane gillis
I did.
Yeah, I liked it.
But there's two similar...
It's the human ears that fuck me up.
No other animal has those.
It's unset.
I don't know.
Something about them I don't love.
They have evil eyes.
Dude, you don't want to see a red panda?
joe rogan
Look at that arm.
The fucking size of his arm.
I would be super proud to have those arms.
shane gillis
Jamie, bring up red pandas.
joe rogan
Look at the size of his arms.
Look at his fucking build, man.
Insane.
shane gillis
That's funny.
joe rogan
I'd be stoked to be built like that.
Look at him.
Look at the size of him.
matt mccusker
That's terrifying, dude.
shane gillis
I get it.
They do rule.
They are funny.
matt mccusker
I might be dogs.
shane gillis
Dogs rule.
unidentified
Wolves.
matt mccusker
Wolves in the wild.
joe rogan
Being around wolves would be amazing.
shane gillis
Look at that, Red Panda.
matt mccusker
He's such a cutie.
shane gillis
Come on, man.
matt mccusker
So cute.
unidentified
That is a cutie.
joe rogan
So cute.
Look at his little face.
Oh my goodness.
Oh my goodness.
shane gillis
Honey badger is fun.
joe rogan
Those are pretty dope.
They're fun.
Badgers are the shit.
shane gillis
Badgers are awesome.
Wolverines are cool.
joe rogan
Wolverines.
I just love that they come in and tell everybody, get the fuck out of here.
unidentified
Everyone's like, what are you doing?
shane gillis
They attack big cats, and big cats are like...
They attack lions!
unidentified
The lion's like, what the fuck are you doing?
matt mccusker
Fuck off!
joe rogan
Fuck off!
matt mccusker
Fucking kill me!
joe rogan
They're 30 pounds!
unidentified
Fuck off!
shane gillis
It's the funniest animal possible.
joe rogan
Yeah, they are.
shane gillis
You fucking kill me right now, motherfucker.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're the most psycho animal.
unidentified
For sure.
matt mccusker
It's insane.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt mccusker
You sent me the video of them, like, going at lions.
It's like, what the fuck?
shane gillis
And all the lions are, like, confused.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
They'll, like, hit it for a second.
One of them will get bit.
They'll all run.
matt mccusker
That's so fucking funny.
joe rogan
Yeah.
matt mccusker
Love it.
joe rogan
They're so tough.
I saw a badger once in the middle of the road and I got out to film it and started walking towards me.
I ran right back to the floor.
shane gillis
Hell yeah, dude.
matt mccusker
Fuck this.
joe rogan
Fuck you up, dude.
shane gillis
Look at that badger.
Nothing.
This is nothing to me.
joe rogan
These jaguars are trying to kill him.
He's like, fuck off.
Leave me alone, bitch.
Fuck are you doing, bitch?
Fuck are you doing, bitch?
I'm going to bite your dick.
I'm going to bite your dick.
He's going to write for the dick.
matt mccusker
Look, the cat's trying to kill him.
joe rogan
He's like, nope.
You can't kill me.
shane gillis
I was watching the thing on them.
I think it's like they're...
joe rogan
Fuck off!
Let it bite your dick.
He's going right for dicks.
He's going right at dicks.
shane gillis
They don't have flight.
They don't have flight.
joe rogan
No, it's all fight.
shane gillis
They just go at you.
So big animals are confused by it.
joe rogan
And they seem invulnerable.
matt mccusker
Yeah, there's something about them.
shane gillis
Oh, and they're smart, dude.
There's one video of this guy that tried to keep one in captivity.
And it kept building stuff to escape.
And he had to cut down trees.
He had to hide everything.
Because it just kept getting out.
matt mccusker
Remember we saw the Tasmanian devils?
joe rogan
They're so smart!
They're so determined.
shane gillis
And they just get out to run around and fight.
I gotta get out of here.
I gotta fuck something up.
joe rogan
Isn't it crazy that nature made that and a giraffe?
Like, nature's like, oh, everything.
All of it.
Everything.
Grasshoppers.
Let's go.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
Frogs, birds, fuck it.
matt mccusker
God is great, dude.
joe rogan
God is great.
shane gillis
God made all types of bullshit.
joe rogan
And it made people to make films of it.
matt mccusker
It's awesome.
I bug out on all the stuff that's made.
I'm like, dude, this is crazy.
Every day.
joe rogan
It is crazy.
matt mccusker
Universe, planets, bugs.
joe rogan
It's also when you see them fighting, you realize how goddamn vulnerable we are.
shane gillis
We're so weak.
joe rogan
Even like UFC fighters.
Our skin is made out of tissue paper.
We get cut all the time.
matt mccusker
Dude, all of our vulnerable organs are right here.
joe rogan
It's all soft.
Everything's soft.
matt mccusker
For real.
joe rogan
Even like the elite of the elite.
You know, like you're talking about Matt Hughes.
Even that guy.
Like against an animal.
He's just vulnerable.
Just nothing.
jamie vernon
Honey Badger vs.
Beehive.
joe rogan
He doesn't give a fuck about bees.
He doesn't give a fuck.
Sting me, bitch.
shane gillis
Breaks the entire thing.
joe rogan
Sting me, bitch.
shane gillis
He's getting stung, dude.
He's getting stung.
joe rogan
He's getting stung.
He's getting mad.
He'll go right back.
Fuck it.
Ow.
He's getting stung in his eyeballs everywhere.
unidentified
So good.
matt mccusker
Honey's so good.
joe rogan
Look at his face.
What a little psycho eyes they have.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
matt mccusker
We saw Tasmanian Devils in Australia, and those things are cool as fuck, too.
shane gillis
Yeah, Tasmanian Devils.
Fucking rules.
joe rogan
Yeah, they do.
shane gillis
That might be the favorite thing I've ever seen in a zoo.
matt mccusker
Yeah.
joe rogan
They have contagious cancer.
unidentified
What?
shane gillis
Yeah, they have herpes?
Yeah, I thought so too.
joe rogan
I thought it was too, but it's the kind of cancer that they get from biting each other.
Yeah, they bite each other in the face so much, and they get these crazy face tumors from contagious cancer.
shane gillis
Koalas were fun.
matt mccusker
Chalmers are tight.
shane gillis
Chlamydia boys.
joe rogan
They have chlamydia, right?
shane gillis
Yeah.
Everybody says that.
Every time you hold them, they're like, watch out.
unidentified
They're real calm until they're hungry.
joe rogan
You need to keep feeding them if you want to hold onto them.
You let go, you stop feeding them for a little while, they're like, hey, motherfucker, where's the food?
And it changes what it is.
matt mccusker
Yeah, they get nasty.
They're feeding them shit the whole time to chill them out.
Probably drug them up a little too.
jamie vernon
Have you heard of a drop bear?
joe rogan
A what?
jamie vernon
A drop bear.
joe rogan
What's a drop bear?
shane gillis
Sounds like it's awesome.
jamie vernon
It went around the internet.
It's like mean koalas, but it turns out we're dumb Americans and don't know that it's like a meme.
It's not real.
But it looks like there's a bunch of facts about drop bears.
joe rogan
It's a koala with its mouth open?
jamie vernon
Yeah, it's not real, but they made it sound real.
joe rogan
So they just have koalas with their mouths open?
They say they're more aggressive koalas or something?
matt mccusker
They say they can fit their heads.
joe rogan
They drop from heights as high as 45 meters.
matt mccusker
45 meters!
unidentified
They fall out of the tree all the time.
matt mccusker
Yeah, they get fucked up.
joe rogan
You know who doesn't get fucked up?
Squirrels.
matt mccusker
True.
joe rogan
Squirrels fall from so far, dude.
They push each other out of trees when they're trying to fuck.
They push each other.
unidentified
Get out of here, bitch.
matt mccusker
Yeah, get out of here, bro.
joe rogan
They're really good at falling.
shane gillis
Jamie, can you find a video?
There's a koala that attacks a kid, and it's very funny.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
shane gillis
Well, it's just an adorable koala running up, and everyone's like, oh, nice.
matt mccusker
It just starts going at a kid.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're little bears, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
At the end of the day, they're little bears.
shane gillis
There he is.
Look at him.
unidentified
Oh!
matt mccusker
Oh!
joe rogan
He's just getting that kid.
Oh my god.
matt mccusker
It's like Lilo and Stitch.
joe rogan
Bro, imagine that?
You're a little kid and you get attacked by that little fucker.
shane gillis
That'll fuck you up.
A teddy bear killed you?
joe rogan
Because he probably thinks you're small people or not people.
That's how dogs are sometimes.
matt mccusker
Yeah, true.
unidentified
Oh, oh!
joe rogan
Dogs think that small people are animals.
shane gillis
Dude, he runs off and so funny.
matt mccusker
He fucks him up.
shane gillis
Just an adorable animal.
matt mccusker
I would have beat the shit out of that kawala.
joe rogan
That guy, he handled that a lot better than the wrestling coach.
matt mccusker
I would have fucking destroyed that kawala.
joe rogan
Yeah, I would've too.
matt mccusker
Dude, how the fuck did that thing?
shane gillis
Stomp him.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Get the fuck out of here.
shane gillis
Guy throwing a raccoon when it attacks his dog?
Fired up.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
shane gillis
It's wonderful.
joe rogan
You ever see the one where the lady's in the backyard and the black bear is on the fence and her dogs are barking?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
And she pushes the fucking bear off the fence?
She pushes the bear off the wall?
unidentified
No.
joe rogan
It's like a young girl, too.
She's like 16. She's like, get the fuck out of here!
She's like so enraged trying to keep this one.
Watch this.
This lady's trying to keep her dogs alive.
So the bear comes up.
He's on the fence there on the wall there.
matt mccusker
Oh shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
So the dogs see it and they go running.
shane gillis
Oh with its cubs.
matt mccusker
Oh with its cubs, no.
unidentified
Oh!
matt mccusker
Oh, that hurt.
joe rogan
Look at this crazy lady.
She pushes it right over the edge.
shane gillis
Damn.
joe rogan
That lady's wild.
That's a wild lady.
That's a wild lady.
That lady's got balls.
jamie vernon
You know what's wild?
It says this is from Fox, Orlando.
There's no way that was in Florida, was it?
joe rogan
Of course it is.
Oh, 100%.
Oh, dude, they have a lot of bears in Florida.
Florida has a large bear population.
Yeah, someone got killed by a bear there a few years ago.
matt mccusker
Damn, her mothering instincts kicked in with her dogs, man.
joe rogan
Some people don't play.
matt mccusker
Yeah, man.
shane gillis
That whole crew.
All the shitty dogs ran out to fight.
She ran out to fight.
Dude, those bears.
joe rogan
That's the wrong answer.
shane gillis
Fuck.
unidentified
All these losers are fighting me.
joe rogan
Little tiny dogs.
shane gillis
Yeah.
They don't fuck around.
Like, little dogs will attack.
joe rogan
They attack everything.
matt mccusker
Chihuahuas, too.
joe rogan
It's a very bad instinct.
jamie vernon
She's 17. Oh, wow, yeah.
joe rogan
She's a kid.
Gangster.
Good for her.
Boys, let's wrap this up.
shane gillis
Yeah, hell yeah.
matt mccusker
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Matt and Chain's Secret Podcast.
Available everywhere.
Right?
matt mccusker
Thank you, bro.
joe rogan
Where is it?
shane gillis
That's everywhere.
matt mccusker
YouTube.
shane gillis
It's all over the place.
joe rogan
It's awesome.
It's hilarious.
shane gillis
Thank you, man.
matt mccusker
Thank you so much, bro.
joe rogan
My pleasure.
Good to see you guys again.
You rule.
unidentified
See ya.
joe rogan
I'll see ya.
Bye, everybody.
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