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Jan. 23, 2024 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #2090 - Bobby Lee
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bobby lee
43:30
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joe rogan
01:24:59
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anthony cumia
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unidentified
Is there a theme song or what happens?
joe rogan
No, just go on.
bobby lee
I made it.
I'm here.
And it's just like, what a blessing.
Let me finish this.
What a blessing.
Over the years, people on the internet were like, why don't you do Rogan?
I was like, I don't even know how.
And I'm here now.
And I just feel so present.
And I feel mindful.
It's going to be a great one.
Anyway, thanks for having me.
joe rogan
I'm so happy you're here.
bobby lee
You too, man.
joe rogan
Yeah, we talked about doing it fucking a thousand times.
bobby lee
A thousand times.
joe rogan
Yeah, and it never happened.
People thought we had a problem with each other.
bobby lee
No, we know.
In fact, here's the deal, Joe.
joe rogan
Okay, Bobby.
bobby lee
Not only do we not have a problem with each other, right?
You've been a really big asset to me over the years, on the phone.
Like, when I'm in trouble, you call, and you're so helpful, and you've got me through a lot of, like, difficult situations.
joe rogan
I love you, Bobby.
bobby lee
We're the opposite of trouble.
We're in a, like, family.
joe rogan
Yes.
That's how I feel.
bobby lee
Yeah.
But, you know, people...
But I just didn't know how to do it!
joe rogan
Well, I always said, anytime you want to do it, you were like, okay.
And that would be like...
bobby lee
But there's no number!
unidentified
I don't know who to...
bobby lee
Who do I call?
joe rogan
You call me!
bobby lee
Oh!
I didn't know who to call!
joe rogan
This whole thing is literally booked on my phone.
bobby lee
Oh, it is?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
Well, now I know.
joe rogan
I have a guy, shout out to my man Matt, who I contact when I want someone to get, like if I want to reach out, like to Cat Williams or something like that, like reach out to this guy, try to get him on, and that's it.
And then it all gets booked on my phone.
unidentified
Wow.
bobby lee
Well, now I know, and knowing's half the battle.
You know what they said?
G.I. Joe just said that.
unidentified
What?
bobby lee
What?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That way, it's like the whole thing.
I go to Tom's.
Have you been to Tom's?
bobby lee
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's like they have a real production staff.
There's all these people running around with clipboards.
bobby lee
I went to Burt's house the other day.
He had eight people behind computers just typing around.
What the fuck they're doing?
E-mailing what?
joe rogan
Social media, going crazy, promoting arena shows.
Everyone's going nuts.
bobby lee
Me, no.
joe rogan
I don't want that in my life.
bobby lee
You don't need it.
joe rogan
I don't want it.
bobby lee
You have a white guy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
Just some average white guy.
No offense, but you're not, you know.
joe rogan
With all due respect, Jamie does take the place of at least two regular people, if not three.
bobby lee
He's great, dude.
joe rogan
How many people?
unidentified
I don't know.
You tell me.
joe rogan
I say at least two.
Maybe three.
Jamie might take the place of three people.
bobby lee
Wow.
joe rogan
What do you got there?
What are those?
bobby lee
These are pouches.
They're called Copenhagens.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
I got these little rogues.
I like these.
bobby lee
Is it tobacco?
joe rogan
It's just nicotine.
bobby lee
It's not tobacco.
Yeah, it's the pouch.
joe rogan
Those are tobacco.
bobby lee
Yeah, these are tobacco.
joe rogan
So you have to spit.
bobby lee
Yeah.
And when I get blisters, I stop.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Okay, when it burns through your cheek.
I ain't running mine who's telling me that.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It made his gums recede.
bobby lee
Yeah.
unidentified
Chewing.
bobby lee
Yeah.
But then when you take a break, they grow back.
It's like a plant.
Your gums.
unidentified
Oh, like a little plant.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You're trimming it.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, like a bonsai.
bobby lee
Yeah, like a bonsai.
joe rogan
Maybe you get better gums that way.
bobby lee
Yeah.
But I quit smoking two years ago, so it's like, you know, that was tough.
unidentified
Was it?
bobby lee
Cigarettes?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
Well, I quit drugs and cigarettes.
joe rogan
Well, you went clean.
You were clean for a long time.
bobby lee
17 years.
joe rogan
And then what was the first thing you did?
bobby lee
Well, I relapsed twice.
So after the 17 years, my dad died.
And, you know, he died.
And then my mom goes, selfie.
So I took a selfie.
With my mom and the family and my dad was dead.
And I decided that was so weird that I took a gummy.
I brought one just in case.
joe rogan
How many milligrams?
bobby lee
At the time it was like 10 milligrams.
But then I had other stuff in my mom's house.
You know what I mean?
And I took the rest.
And then I relapsed for like four months.
Then I got sober again.
And then when things got crazy in my life, I did it again.
joe rogan
What did you go with again?
Did you go with just weed?
bobby lee
Weed and drinking.
It's fine at first.
I remember taking edible, going to Hawaii, because I was shooting Magnum PI or something.
It's fun for a couple of months, but then I overdo it.
It's like 24 hours a day, and I'm drinking 24 hours a day.
Andrew Santino was concerned.
Like one time he knocked on my hotel room and I walked out and I had poo all over my body.
Yeah, and I was in a blackout drunk and he goes, you had poo all over your body.
joe rogan
That's a good friend.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Did he clean you up?
bobby lee
Yeah, he cleaned me up.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Andrew's the best.
bobby lee
He's the best.
Well, he was mad.
You know how he gets mad.
joe rogan
Of course.
You're covered in shit.
unidentified
You fucking bastard!
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, you're covered in shit.
He didn't abandon you like I would've.
bobby lee
I don't think you would've.
joe rogan
I probably wouldn't.
bobby lee
You would've cleaned it, but you would've said, clean up, and then 10 minutes, I'll see you.
joe rogan
I would've chucked you into the tub.
bobby lee
Yeah, like a cold plunge.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just hose you down.
bobby lee
So it got bad and then what happened was Bob Sackett died and then Louie died.
And for some reason I was drinking and also when I was coughing up blood.
I had these chunks of curdled blood, like a ball.
And I had convinced myself that I had fucking cancer.
And I always go, death comes in three, not that I'm that big like those guys, but in my mind it's like, I'm next.
And I couldn't sleep, I couldn't eat, it was fucking terrible.
But then I got sober and things are fine.
joe rogan
What was the blood?
Did you ever find out?
bobby lee
Then I got an x-ray done, and it's like, it's fine.
I just, when I smoke so much weed and cigarettes at the same time.
joe rogan
Oh my god, you made your lungs bleed?
bobby lee
That's so crazy!
That chumps of blood would come out.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's so crazy.
bobby lee
And I remember I would cough into it like a towel or something, and I would send it to my ex, Kalilah.
unidentified
And...
joe rogan
Just the photo or the actual...
unidentified
Just the photo.
joe rogan
Okay, okay.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
Just the photo.
Yeah, and I'd be like, I have cancer.
joe rogan
Because if you send her the whole thing, that's like...
bobby lee
That's weird.
Oh, really?
joe rogan
I don't think so.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
No, I mean, if you thought you had, like, some crazy disease, like...
Oh, my God.
Did you see these ladies in Denver today?
They took a live Ebola vaccine.
There's not even Ebola cases here.
bobby lee
It's in Africa, right?
joe rogan
But this doctor was encouraging people to take this Ebola vaccine just in case Ebola hits.
Why does everybody want to freak me out?
bobby lee
I know.
joe rogan
Why does this lady want to freak me out by taking this thing?
Who knows what the fuck is going to happen to you now?
And why does everybody want to freak me out at the fucking possibility of some new disease coming along and killing everybody?
bobby lee
But Ebola's old school.
joe rogan
It's a scary one.
bobby lee
Hot zone.
It liquefies your organs, right?
joe rogan
Denver Health Medical Team receives Ebola vaccine.
The team became some of the first people to receive the live Ebola vaccine for preventative measures in case of a future outbreak.
The first people?
bobby lee
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Wait a minute, is the Ebola vaccine new?
Did they not have a vaccine before?
And now they do?
bobby lee
I don't know.
joe rogan
What the fuck, people?
bobby lee
But back in the day when they had it, they just bomb a village, right?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
What did they do?
bobby lee
What did they do?
I don't know what they did.
joe rogan
I don't think it's that easy to spread.
I think Ebola has to be spread by bodily fluids.
bobby lee
It's not airborne.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But they could fix that.
You think they're Chinese?
unidentified
A little bit of this, a little bit of that.
joe rogan
And look, now it flies through the air.
bobby lee
Oh man, if it was like COVID, Like that easy?
We're fucked!
joe rogan
But that's what scares the shit out of me, man.
They keep talking about it.
These fucking creeps at the World Economic Forum, they all get together and talk about preparation for Disease X. They're calling it Virus X or Disease X. They're scaring the shit out of me.
bobby lee
Can I just ask you something?
You know me.
I don't know much about nothing, right?
But do you believe that it was man-made?
joe rogan
Well, it was definitely man-made.
Yeah, I wouldn't say definitely because I'm not really an expert.
But every expert that I have talked to that examined the virus itself The cleavage sites, the way it skipped all animal forms.
You can't find that virus out in the wild.
And then all of a sudden it made a leap to person.
It apparently has all of the earmarks of being engineered.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
But this is something that they do.
This is not like science fiction.
So when we say that, it's not like we're just making up some story about some lab where they're making viruses.
No, they fucking 100% absolutely do it.
And they lied about funding it.
That was the big thing with Fauci and the NIH. They lied about funding gain-of-function research and Rand Paul grilled them.
You can watch it on YouTube, and then they lied about whether or not this, first of all, was happening, whether or not they were doing gain-of-function research, and whether or not they funded it.
They funded it through another organization, so they fund another organization, and another organization funds the Wuhan lab.
And there's a bunch of labs.
That's not the only lab.
There's a shit ton of them.
I visited one with Duncan.
We went down to one in Galveston, Texas.
It's fucking terrifying!
And I don't know if they're doing gain-of-function research there, but I know they have some of the most deadly viruses and diseases known to man, all with these crazy ventilation tubes, and everyone's walking around in these hazmat suits and shit.
They let Duncan and I there.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
Oh, and by the way, we hadn't slept.
So Duncan and I, this is when we were doing Joe Rogan Questions Everything for sci-fi.
Duncan and I, we flew together.
So we had to fly together to go to Texas.
And both of us got barbecued.
I mean, we took like 500 milligram edibles and totally missed our flight.
In the airport.
We were just talking for like hours.
Like, oh my god, what time is it?
Like that bad?
And they're like, this flight's gone.
unidentified
The flight's gone.
joe rogan
Like, oh no.
So the next flight we had to take place was like 5 in the morning.
And it got us there right before we were supposed to film.
So we literally stayed up all night.
I think we got a hotel for one hour.
I think we actually got a hotel for one hour.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then we flew, woke up in the morning, and just got in the car, rather, and just went straight to this lab.
So we're delirious.
We're still probably high.
And we're in this crazy bio lab where they have Ebola.
They have everything.
You name it, they've got it.
Everything that kills everybody.
And it's all these big, thick, plexiglass walls.
You're like, oh my god.
The guy was freaking me out.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And me and Duncan were both like, oh my god, dude!
bobby lee
Are you in a suit too?
Are you in a suit?
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
Oh.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
We only went into the administrative offices.
They did not let us onto the floor.
We didn't go anywhere near any diseases.
They just let us through the office.
But the doctor scared the fuck out of me.
Because what he was saying to me is, because our piece was all on bioweapons.
And one of the things, I interviewed this guy who was formerly from the Soviet Union.
I believe it's the Soviet Union.
It might have been Ukraine.
I think it was Soviet Union.
And when he left, he was saying that they at one point in time had literal vats of anthrax.
Just like a giant fucking swimming pool filled with anthrax.
He said they had so much of it.
Bioweapons were a big part of the strategy.
If everything goes fucked, if we just decide to start killing each other, if we decide to start nuking each other, that was one of the things they were going to do.
bobby lee
Did they use Anthrax and NOM? I don't believe so.
What's Agent Orange?
The same thing?
joe rogan
No, no.
Agent Orange is a defoliation.
It's Agent Orange that would spray on the plants so they could find the people in the jungle.
bobby lee
Is it orange?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
bobby lee
Like if I saw it?
joe rogan
Right, that's a good question.
bobby lee
Why orange?
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
Why not yellow?
joe rogan
I don't know what it looks like.
There's another word for it, right?
What was the other word for Agent Orange?
It was like a technical term.
bobby lee
Because if they use it in Vietnam, they should just call it Agent Yellow.
unidentified
No.
Cut that out!
joe rogan
I've always said that Asian people take jokes better than anybody.
You know why?
bobby lee
Why?
joe rogan
All emojis are yellow.
No one complains.
bobby lee
It's true.
joe rogan
They don't complain.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yellow thumbs up, yellow smiley face guy, yellow girl.
Everyone's yellow.
No one complains.
bobby lee
People...
Get mad at me because I allow comics to do Asian accents in front of me, and I laugh at it because I think it's funny, but then people think that I'm like a, you know, like an Uncle Chang, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
No.
Listen, first of all, those people are all your friends.
And friends mock each other all the time.
unidentified
Yeah!
joe rogan
My friends mock me for being short.
They mock me for being bald.
They mock me for being old.
It's fun.
It's fun.
If they mock me for being...
See, the thing is, mocking me for being Italian, it doesn't work.
Like, no one cares.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not a bad one.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's why you can call Italians guineas, and nobody gives a shit.
They'll call each other guineas, you can call them guineas, no one cares.
Because people don't really hate Italians.
They find them annoying, like the gold chain ones, those guys.
Some of them are a little, but that's also part of the flavor of that culture.
It's fun.
But Asian hate is a different kind of hate.
Because Asian hate, like, legitimately people will walk up to Asian people and punch them after COVID. Oh yeah, I saw it.
It's fucking wild.
bobby lee
Wild, yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, that's just strict racist hate, walking right up to someone and punching them.
bobby lee
Like an old man.
joe rogan
Old men, old ladies.
Yeah.
It's wild.
And they don't even know what kind of Asian it is.
It could be someone from the Philippines.
It could be someone from China.
They have no fucking idea.
They're just hitting people.
bobby lee
It was fucking terrible, yeah.
joe rogan
Terrifying.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
That shit's real.
bobby lee
Yeah.
But when it comes to comedy, like back in the day, you're backstage with a bunch of comics.
We see all kinds of fucked up shit.
joe rogan
We try to make each other laugh, and it's hard to make us laugh.
bobby lee
Or shock.
joe rogan
Yeah, or shock.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, shock to make you laugh.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
The shocking thing is just to go, what the fuck is wrong with you?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How many times are we in the green room and Joey Diaz will say something like, what the fuck is wrong with you?
And we're on the ground laughing.
But that's what he's trying to do.
He's not a bad person.
He's trying to make you laugh.
bobby lee
And then we do it, you know, publicly around, you know, on podcasts and stuff, and people just get fucking crazy.
joe rogan
You know what it's like?
It's...
It's like being around any person that's used to a certain thing.
Have you ever been around soldiers, especially special operator guys, Navy SEAL type dudes?
They get a couple of drinks and they start talking war stories.
Holy shit.
They're funny.
They're funny stories about people getting blown up.
They have funny stories about it.
And guess what?
You can't bring that up at the fucking PTA meeting.
You have to be around like-minded people that understand those kind of experiences to be able to talk about them.
Cops, some of the cops I know have the most fucked up senses of humor.
They've seen so much.
They need a release valve, man.
They need fucking something to let out all the gunshot victims and all the deaths and highway, all the things they see, man.
They see so much.
bobby lee
Also, these port cities back in the day, right?
You'd have different races and stuff, and they didn't speak the language.
And the way they would connect is make fun of each other and people's accents.
You bonded that way.
joe rogan
But that was the nicest thing they could do to each other back then.
Those poor cities were just filled with violence.
bobby lee
Yeah, probably, yeah.
joe rogan
Violence.
It's all gangs in New York.
That's what it was like, man.
That's real.
When people came here from other countries, like my ancestors came here, or my grandparents came here in the 1920s.
They came from Italy, and on my father's side they came from Ireland.
One from Ireland, he was from Ireland, the mother's from Italy.
They're all immigrants.
Everybody's an immigrant.
Those people that came to that place, they all were so wild.
They were willing to get on a boat with their kids and travel across the ocean.
You didn't know if you had a job.
You didn't know what it looked like.
You had to look at a drawing of it.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, somebody had to tell you.
You had to get a letter from Uncle Pete.
Yeah.
You know, I made it to America.
I got a job in the shipyard.
It's great.
I'm making, you know, 50 bucks a month.
And then they're like, oh, 50 bucks a month.
And then they get in their boat with their babies.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those were wild people.
bobby lee
And like the Chinese, right?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
bobby lee
They had three options.
I could do laundry, right?
Dynamite Detail Railroad, right?
Opium Den.
joe rogan
Restaurant.
bobby lee
Oh, restaurant!
I'm Opium Den.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
Back in the day?
Yeah, you would be a cool Opium Den.
I would have the best one.
Yeah, you'd play with Bobby Lee's.
Right?
I'd lay them down on a nice, like, you know what I mean?
Felt mattress.
joe rogan
Oh, you'd have cool lighting.
bobby lee
Yeah, you'd have great lighting.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Ride the dragon.
bobby lee
Ride the dragon.
I would stick it in their mouth.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
Light it for them.
unidentified
Yeah.
Right?
joe rogan
And then touch their head as they're going over.
bobby lee
Right.
joe rogan
Just like, oh.
bobby lee
Right, right.
Yeah.
Like in that movie, Once Upon a Time in America.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
De Niro was like fucked up on opiates.
joe rogan
Everybody got fucked up on it once you did it.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
They get fucked up.
That's what's wild about social media.
Social media is addictive and it doesn't even feel good.
Opium, at least you feel great!
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You feel great!
Look at all these dudes in an opium den.
bobby lee
Oh my god.
Mine would look so much better than that.
joe rogan
I had Peter Berg on.
You know, Peter Berg did that.
You know, he's amazing.
He's done a million things.
That guy's the shit.
But he did that Netflix series, Painkiller.
The one on the Sackler family.
bobby lee
Didn't see it.
joe rogan
Holy shit, dude.
bobby lee
The opioid crisis.
joe rogan
But he told me that he tried it once.
He said, I tried I tried OxyContin once, recreationally, and he was like, oh my god, get this the fuck away from me.
bobby lee
He goes, it was great.
joe rogan
It just makes you feel so good.
That's the problem.
That's the problem with those goddamn things.
bobby lee
Well, when I was on MADtv and I relapsed, because at 13 years I got on MADtv, I got addicted to Vicodin.
And I was taking like 30 or 40 a day.
And when I got off of that shit, dude, it was the worst detox I've ever fucking felt.
And then I had to do a Connie Chung sketch on Mad.
Two days into fucking detoxing, and I shit my pants on camera.
And they didn't air it.
joe rogan
Because you shit your pants?
bobby lee
Yeah, I went, good evening, I'm Connie.
Played Connie Chung.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
And I'm shaking.
joe rogan
Oh boy.
bobby lee
Good evening, I'm Connie.
As I said Connie, I pooed, and I had stockings, and then I had a wardrobe wipe it.
joe rogan
Oh boy.
bobby lee
It was fucking terrible.
It was fucking terrible.
joe rogan
Oh boy.
bobby lee
And I got sober then, but it's like, yeah, if I get it, opiates are the worst.
joe rogan
What other job can you do that?
And they're like, just clean him up.
bobby lee
He's really good.
And McDonald's?
You're out.
joe rogan
You're out.
You're gone.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
We try to finish.
joe rogan
You're working for Apple?
unidentified
That's a wrap.
joe rogan
That's a wrap.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Even on stage- You're in the Genius Bar and you shave your pants.
That's it, Bobby.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
No more.
bobby lee
Even on stage, you can go to a guy and go, fuck you.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
In comedy, you don't get fired for that.
It's fucking amazing.
joe rogan
It's amazing.
bobby lee
If you did that at Jamba Juice, you're done.
joe rogan
Right.
But I remember you telling me a story how you had been up all night and you got back to MADtv.
You had to get there for something.
Was it a table read or what?
You had a giant knife on you.
You're super paranoid and tweaking.
bobby lee
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
He said you were carrying like a Bowie knife.
bobby lee
Yeah.
And sometimes a Klingon, one of those guys that love Star Trek, he's got a Klingon knife.
joe rogan
How pink was it?
bobby lee
It was like this long.
I still have it by my bed, right?
And I was sticking right here, right?
And an open Hawaiian shirt.
And I was breaking out.
joe rogan
That's what it looks like?
bobby lee
That's what it looked like, yeah.
That's pretty dope.
joe rogan
That is actually pretty dope.
That's what Klingons would carry around?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy?
They have spaceships, so they still need knives.
It seems like you don't have a better weapon.
bobby lee
I never thought of it that way.
joe rogan
Well, first of all, they didn't even have the fucking internet.
bobby lee
Right.
joe rogan
It's the dumbest show ever.
And they had walkie-talkies.
They hadn't even figured out phones yet.
bobby lee
I never thought of it that way.
joe rogan
Like, Kirk out.
Click.
You'd have to hang out.
bobby lee
Right.
joe rogan
You'd have to hang out.
bobby lee
You would think they would have like a...
joe rogan
Nothing!
bobby lee
Yeah, something.
joe rogan
But yet they could beam you up.
You literally take your body and reconstitute it.
bobby lee
It's still a good show.
joe rogan
It's a great show.
bobby lee
It's still a good sci-fi show.
joe rogan
Listen, I love Star Trek.
bobby lee
Next Generation?
joe rogan
No, first one.
The real one.
The old one.
bobby lee
I'm sorry.
I'll back up.
I'm sorry.
You're wrong.
I'm not wrong.
Can I just say something?
joe rogan
I can't be wrong for liking something.
bobby lee
I understand that.
I think that you're misinformed.
joe rogan
How so?
bobby lee
Because, and do me a favor, season five...
joe rogan
No.
bobby lee
I know, but can I just...
Just open your heart.
joe rogan
It's open.
bobby lee
Okay, so may I say what I'm gonna say?
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
May I? Yes, please.
unidentified
Alright.
bobby lee
Season five.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
Second to the last episode.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
The episode's called Inner Light.
joe rogan
I'm not gonna watch it.
bobby lee
I'm not asking you to.
I'm not asking you to.
But I'm asking your fans to check it out.
joe rogan
They're gonna yell at me.
bobby lee
That episode is the greatest piece of sci-fi ever filmed.
And Adam Egott hated Star Trek.
I forced him to watch this episode.
He watched every episode after that.
unidentified
Really?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay, I'll watch it.
bobby lee
It's a great episode.
joe rogan
Okay, I will watch it.
bobby lee
Okay, thank you.
joe rogan
Now I changed my mind.
I will watch it.
bobby lee
See, your heart was open.
joe rogan
It looks interesting.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It looks interesting because he's walking around in church.
Okay.
See what he's got to say.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe he's on a vision quest.
bobby lee
No, the concept is great.
unidentified
Okay.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I believe you.
bobby lee
Okay, good.
Thank you.
joe rogan
I like the old one just for nostalgic purposes, because I'm old.
And because when I was a kid, that was on television.
I remember watching Star Trek, Captain Kirk, like, oh my god, he's the coolest.
bobby lee
Yeah, it was the best.
joe rogan
You know, and it was also, it's so corny.
Like, if you watch it today, It's gone to this point where it becomes funny.
It's parody.
There's a scene where Captain Kirk has a fight with a lizard man on a planet.
bobby lee
Have you ever seen it?
joe rogan
It's the dumbest fight scene ever.
It's right up there with the six million dollar man versus Bigfoot.
That's the dumbest one.
But this one's pretty dumb.
Look how handsome he was.
First of all, This lizard is so goddamn slow, I would fuck this lizard up.
unidentified
I would fuck him up, dude.
joe rogan
Look how slow he is.
Bro, I would fuck him up.
I would be leg kicking him right now.
unidentified
Whap!
joe rogan
Whap!
I'd take them knees out.
Oh, what a shitty body kick!
bobby lee
Wow.
He fights like Brendan Schaub a little bit.
joe rogan
But all he did is throw him.
Brandon Schaub was a good fighter.
bobby lee
You better shut your mouth.
joe rogan
He knocked out Mirko Koko.
bobby lee
I'm kidding.
I love him.
joe rogan
So look at this.
He's right next to you and he's not even biting you.
This is the biggest pussy lizard of all time.
He's not even biting!
He's not biting!
The neck is right there.
He's got a giant mouth full with teeth.
Easily he could bite.
unidentified
There's no restraint keeping him from biting.
bobby lee
Oh, that was a good ear move.
joe rogan
Captain Kirk, he hit him with the ears.
Oh, he hurt him with the ears!
bobby lee
So what does he do?
joe rogan
He runs away like a pussy.
Now he's gonna throw rocks at him.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta hit him in the ear, bro.
Get close.
The guy's slow as fuck.
Look at him.
bobby lee
This is so dumb.
joe rogan
It hurts my feelings.
bobby lee
But imagine shooting that that day.
It's so hot.
That guy in the lizard suit, oh my god.
joe rogan
Oh, he's sweating his dick off.
Yeah.
He's having it rough.
Because that's probably Burbank or somewhere.
Yeah.
That totally looks like it could be California, doesn't it?
bobby lee
Yeah, they must have shot it.
joe rogan
Oh, he's gonna pick up the rock.
Look how fake that rock looks.
What's he gonna throw that rock?
All you have to do is just get out of the way now.
Don't stand there.
Look, get out of the fucking way, bro!
Oh, Jesus Christ.
How casual did he get out of the way?
Because he knew it wasn't a real rock.
bobby lee
Yeah.
Remember when that guy threw the shoe at the bush?
joe rogan
This is picture-perfect, terrible acting.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Picture-perfect, terrible choreography.
Everything about it is hilarious.
Does it end?
unidentified
That was it.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
He doesn't kill him?
unidentified
He ran away.
bobby lee
That's it?
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How dumb.
I love that show.
bobby lee
Yeah, it reminds me of old Godzilla's.
joe rogan
You remember when Captain Kirk hooked up with that green lady?
It was a big deal.
bobby lee
Would you have?
Yeah!
joe rogan
I would have fucked the Avatar ladies.
bobby lee
So if you and I had a...
joe rogan
The Avatar ladies?
That lady's hot.
bobby lee
On Pandora?
I don't know.
It looks blue.
joe rogan
I don't give a fuck.
The one that he eventually winds up with?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's hot.
bobby lee
But you know how the creatures connect with the tails or whatever, then they communicate?
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
Does that come out of the vagina, too?
I don't know.
joe rogan
I don't think they have a vagina.
bobby lee
Oh.
joe rogan
I think you just link up like that and you come in your mind.
bobby lee
Oh, you come?
Oh, yeah.
I'd love to come in my mind.
joe rogan
Who knows how the babies even get there?
bobby lee
I can't.
Can I ask you?
joe rogan
They have things over their dicks, so they must have dicks, right?
They all had loincloths.
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
But I'm 52, Joe.
I can't come.
joe rogan
You can't come?
bobby lee
I come every other time.
joe rogan
Every other time.
That's good.
bobby lee
But you know what?
I like edging.
joe rogan
But how much are you fucking?
Are you trying to fuck every day?
Or jerk off every day?
Maybe you're running out of jizz.
Maybe you just have a small factory, you know, and you're just demanding too much output.
bobby lee
No, my factory's pretty big, dude.
joe rogan
Your balls are big?
bobby lee
For my size, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, but like for normal humans, when you hit 52, like how often are you coming?
bobby lee
Every other day.
joe rogan
That's reasonable.
bobby lee
That's reasonable.
But when I'm in the sack with a woman, psychologically, I can't do it.
joe rogan
So do you just fake it?
bobby lee
I pull out.
joe rogan
Spit on her?
bobby lee
No.
I dim the lights, and I do it back.
I go back.
joe rogan
You go back.
bobby lee
Yeah.
So I go, and I go back to the wall.
joe rogan
Good move.
bobby lee
In the dark.
joe rogan
Oh, and act it out.
bobby lee
Good actor, right?
joe rogan
Epilepsy.
bobby lee
Right.
And I go straight to the bathroom like I'm washing it.
unidentified
Whoa.
bobby lee
So they can't see the cum.
joe rogan
That's a good move.
bobby lee
Thank you.
joe rogan
It's a good move.
You want to be deceptive.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I guess that's not a terrible thing to deceive people about, whether or not you come.
bobby lee
Yeah, I mean, but I feel bad.
joe rogan
Girls are all guilty of it.
bobby lee
Yeah, but I don't want them to feel bad like they're not hot.
It has nothing to do with them.
joe rogan
I get it.
bobby lee
I'm just being like a nice guy.
unidentified
That's so sweet of you.
bobby lee
I'm super sensitive.
But it's like, because I was in a 10-year thing and now I'm like single, so I'm just experimenting.
joe rogan
I get it.
Yeah.
I get it.
bobby lee
You do?
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's still fun though.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're having a good time, Bobby.
bobby lee
Yeah, I am.
joe rogan
As long as you're enjoying life, that's what you should be doing.
You should be enjoying life.
bobby lee
You know, Joe, may I say?
joe rogan
Yes.
bobby lee
I am.
joe rogan
That's beautiful.
Because when you weren't enjoying life, it bothered me.
It bothered me because I love you, and you're such a nice guy, and you get weirded out by so many different things.
bobby lee
Like what?
joe rogan
You were just always paranoid that people didn't like you, and you were always weirded out by stuff.
Even me and you.
We hadn't seen each other for six months.
You still like me?
bobby lee
I'm like, I love you.
joe rogan
What are you talking about?
Give me a hug.
bobby lee
Because we have history!
joe rogan
Yeah, but our history is all beautiful.
bobby lee
It's a beautiful history.
joe rogan
We have history of, we've never been in an argument.
bobby lee
No.
joe rogan
We've never yelled at each other.
bobby lee
No.
joe rogan
We've always had good times.
Yeah.
We've had a lot of laughs.
bobby lee
We have.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
bobby lee
Some great laughs.
Oh my God.
We've had moments where I even recall that you probably don't even remember.
Like one time you and I were at the Comedy Store.
We're in the patio and Eddie Griffin bumped us.
unidentified
Right?
bobby lee
And we were talking shit.
joe rogan
So this must be early days.
bobby lee
Early days.
Back in the day.
joe rogan
90s, right?
bobby lee
90s, right?
unidentified
Wow!
bobby lee
And then I remember there was a black guy near us listening and he told Eddie Griffin that we were talking shit about him and he confronted us.
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
I remember that.
And we were like, fuck off, you know what I mean?
But it was like...
Because you remember, he used to do hours.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, he would do three hours.
He would go on at 9 o'clock, and your spot would be at 9.15, and he would do three hours.
bobby lee
It was him.
Dice would do it sometimes.
Mencia would do it all the time.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Yeah, but the thing is, it was kind of the culture of the Comedy Store, in Eddie's defense, is that if you reach a certain level of fame, and at the time, Eddie was definitely more famous than us, and he was...
I still, to this day, maintain that Eddie Griffin's set on Def Jam was one of the best fucking...
I don't know, was it 10 minutes, 15 minutes, whatever he did?
It was one of the best sets I've ever seen.
He had shorts on...
Remember?
And he has so much energy, man.
I'm pretty sure I was in New York at the time when I watched it.
I was like, God damn, this fucking dude is talented.
bobby lee
Yeah, I'm not questioning his skill set.
joe rogan
But it's the culture thing.
This is what I was gonna say.
There was a thing at the store.
When you reached a certain level of prominence, you were allowed to just do whatever the fuck you wanted.
And people would show up, and apparently Kennison used to do that, and a lot of guys used to do that.
bobby lee
But do ours?
joe rogan
I get it, man.
I don't agree with it.
bobby lee
You wouldn't do it?
joe rogan
No.
But there's certain guys did.
Certain guys that are really good did.
Chappelle did it.
There's a bunch of guys who did it.
b-real
It was a thing that you were allowed to do there.
joe rogan
You know what I'm saying?
And it was like...
I think we probably all should have talked about it.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
And said, hey, this is kind of crazy.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
But...
bobby lee
I still to this day went to Emily and I go, give me a list right now of the people that are allowed to bump me.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
She goes, I'll get back to you.
joe rogan
Nobody should be allowed to bump you.
If someone wants to do a set, if a famous person is in town, they should ask you if it's okay.
That's how I feel.
I never bump anybody.
bobby lee
But it still happens.
joe rogan
No.
I know, but also, it's a thing that was the Comedy Store's mark that you had made to a certain level.
If you could show up, and some guys would try to get it, they would try to bump people, and I'm like, you're nobody.
Some people are crazy.
bobby lee
Crazy.
joe rogan
Crazy.
bobby lee
Delusional.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're like a YouTube person or someone who's on some show, literally, like someone who's on some show that you've never heard of that was on like the WB or something like that.
What are you talking about?
There's a few guys that like wanted to try that juice before because it was that thing.
Like when someone would show up, whoever it was, some Chris Rock would show up, he would just go on stage.
That's it.
Chris Rock goes on stage when he gets there.
bobby lee
But he's on the list.
I have a list.
joe rogan
Of people that are allowed to buy.
bobby lee
Yeah, you're on the list.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
You wouldn't do it, but you're on it.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't do it.
bobby lee
Yeah.
Chris Rock's on the list.
Chappelle's on the list.
Bill Burr's on the list.
joe rogan
Makes sense.
bobby lee
Right?
But then there are people, you know what I mean, that aren't.
And they do it, and it drives me fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Well, it's a weird thing.
It's like you're trying to appease the talent.
You never know who's really going to make it big, and you don't want to piss them off now.
unidentified
Ugh.
joe rogan
I'm so glad I don't have to deal with that.
bobby lee
I know.
joe rogan
I always told people, be nice to comedy club owners because you don't want to be one.
That was my advice always to comics because they always get mad at comedy club owners.
I go, listen, man, you do not want to be one of these people and we fucking need them.
This is a crazy job.
You're dealing with maniacs that may or may not take their flight, might show up drunk, might get arrested Friday night after the first show.
Imagine you're feeding your family based on these fucking maniacs that come in every week.
bobby lee
I know, I know, I know.
joe rogan
I mean, these people are regular people.
bobby lee
I would go to comedy clubs, and I would look at the office and see the calendar, and it would always say Pablo Francisco with a question mark.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
bobby lee
Pablo was a rock.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's like, I get it.
joe rogan
Yeah, look, Pablo is fucking insanely talented.
bobby lee
He's so talented.
Oh my God.
joe rogan
Pablo goes to the basement.
He gets in there.
He goes and looks around those dark corners, son.
He goes out there.
He goes into the tunnel.
bobby lee
And I've, you know, I just feel so sad about it, but he could have been the biggest thing.
joe rogan
He should have been.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
He should have been.
bobby lee
That's how talented.
joe rogan
He should have been huge.
bobby lee
In the 90s?
Oh my God.
joe rogan
Oh my God.
bobby lee
Crusher.
joe rogan
Destroyer and so fun to be around.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
A sweetheart of a guy.
Nobody hated Pablo.
Sweetheart of a guy.
bobby lee
Sweetheart.
joe rogan
Every time people were around him, you wanted to hug him.
bobby lee
Yeah.
But he had a skill set on stage that was like a combination between impressions and act outs.
And he had everything.
joe rogan
And funny jokes, too.
bobby lee
Yeah, funny jokes.
joe rogan
He had all of it together.
And just so likable.
Such a great guy.
bobby lee
Such a nice guy.
Yeah, yeah.
But yeah, I see that still to the same.
joe rogan
I was really lucky that the thing that I was into was weed.
And that the thing I was into made me terrified.
It made me paranoid.
It was the opposite of giving me courage.
It gave me no courage.
Marijuana was a courage killer.
It made me feel like courage was foolish.
You're so vulnerable.
Life is vulnerable.
And it made me appreciate people more.
Legitimately.
bobby lee
Do you perform when you're high sometimes?
joe rogan
All the time.
bobby lee
Do you ever lose your place or no?
joe rogan
No.
I take a lot of nootropics.
That's one of the keys.
bobby lee
Could I have one?
joe rogan
Yeah, take four of those.
That's Alpha Brain Black Label.
That stuff is the shit.
bobby lee
I've always, whenever I see a show on your online, I always want to try your little things.
joe rogan
That's a good one to try.
And this is, you know, I'm affiliated with this company, obviously, but this is not the only one that I try.
I'll tell people about some stuff that I have no affiliation with.
NeuroGum is one of them.
We always keep NeuroGum in the studio.
bobby lee
Can I have a packet of NeuroGum when I leave?
joe rogan
We can have one right now.
Give me a packet please.
bobby lee
I'm not gonna do it.
joe rogan
I'll do it later.
We should get some more.
We're probably running dry.
We go through four or five fucking boxes of that stuff.
bobby lee
And NeuroGum really works?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, 100%.
bobby lee
Oh wow.
joe rogan
It's got theanine in it and caffeine and a couple other things and what it does is it enhances your memory.
It enhances your brain's ability to form sentences.
bobby lee
Whoa.
joe rogan
Yeah, well with AlphaBrain, we did two double-blind, placebo-controlled studies at the Boston Center for Memory, and it showed increase in alpha flow state, it showed increase in verbal memory, increase in, I think it was reaction time, but it does something.
And we did it at a dose that's half of what I take.
I take four, sometimes I take six, if I'm feeling fresh.
Like, if I'm talking to a scientist...
bobby lee
Does it hit right away or no?
joe rogan
No.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
No, it'll take a while.
If I'm talking to a scientist, I'll take a shitload of them.
I'll take six.
bobby lee
Oh, like Lex?
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
I love that guy.
joe rogan
He's awesome.
bobby lee
He's awesome.
joe rogan
But I mean, any scientist, like, any time I'm talking to someone who's, like, explaining to me some very complicated things about the universe...
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, I don't want any fogginess.
I want to be, like, locked in.
bobby lee
See, that was one of my fears of doing your show, is science and the things that you guys talk about.
I know, I'm just saying.
I was like, I don't know nothing about anything.
joe rogan
You don't have to.
bobby lee
Okay.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
bobby lee
I know film.
I know some film.
joe rogan
Listen, you're my friend, and we have had conversations thousands of times.
That's all this is.
It's just you and I having a conversation.
Do you remember when we first met?
Remember when we first met at the strip club in San Diego?
unidentified
Can I say something?
bobby lee
But can I just say something about it?
Yes.
I think I might be wrong the way you're saying it, maybe.
How so?
Let's go by.
So, you were headlining La Jolla.
joe rogan
Yes.
bobby lee
I was a doorman.
joe rogan
Yes.
bobby lee
Right?
And I think Diaz was there.
joe rogan
I believe so.
bobby lee
Yeah, I think he was there, right?
I knew Diaz.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
So he goes, hey, let's go to the strip club with Joe.
And I was trying to be a host.
joe rogan
Was this 95?
bobby lee
Yeah, 95, 96. Okay.
Right?
unidentified
Wow.
bobby lee
And I was a kid.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
I was enamored by you.
You know what I mean?
Not enamored, but I was like- I doubt it.
joe rogan
I wasn't even famous back then.
bobby lee
No, but still, you were a headliner.
I was an emcee.
Right?
unidentified
Right, right, right.
bobby lee
So then we go to the strip club.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
Right?
And it's deja vu.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
Okay?
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
And I wanted to go like, I'm from San Diego.
I know the ropes.
I know the people.
I didn't.
joe rogan
Okay.
unidentified
Of course I didn't.
joe rogan
That's not really what happened.
bobby lee
No, but we sat there.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
And then there were gang members there.
Right.
Right?
And then, I don't know what the problem was, but there was a problem between.
joe rogan
I'll tell you the problem.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
Okay, there's one of the gang members who's dating one of the strippers.
bobby lee
Okay.
joe rogan
And when he was over there talking to the stripper, you went over and tried to get the stripper to give you a lap dance.
And when you did that, I saw the look in his eyes, and I'll never forget, he had long, straight, black hair, this Mexican dude, with tattoos on his face.
In 95...
bobby lee
Only two teardrops.
joe rogan
That's fine.
bobby lee
Okay.
joe rogan
That's only two people he killed.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
And this is 95. Okay.
And you went over and I said, Bobby, what the fuck are you doing?
What the fuck are you doing?
I go, did you take a look at that guy's eyes?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
I go, Bobby, these are like dangerous, real people.
And you're like, oh, shut the fuck up.
Nothing's gonna happen.
They ain't gonna do shit.
I go, okay, I'm out of here.
So I said, I'm leaving.
You can either come with me or not.
And I got up and left.
I saw where this was going.
They were getting up, Bobby.
They were moving around.
They were thinking about coming over to you.
And I got us right out the door.
And you barely got in my car.
You barely got in my car in time.
You were dilly-dallying, and someone had to yell at you.
And then we got you in the car and we took off.
I go, hey, Bobby, you were going to get a shot.
Like, for real.
bobby lee
Well, you saved my life.
joe rogan
I don't know if I saved your life, but I definitely saved you an ass ticket.
bobby lee
But also, if she's working there, she's on the clock?
No, just hear me out!
joe rogan
No, you're...
bobby lee
If I'm at McDonald's, right, and some womanically correct...
I'm technically correct.
joe rogan
Technically you're correct.
bobby lee
Ethically correct.
joe rogan
But she was over there talking to her gang member boyfriend, and you went over asking for a lap dance, and you just, like, stormed your way into their conversation.
You were going to die.
bobby lee
Can I just say something?
Yes, please.
I want to say something, okay?
unidentified
Okay.
bobby lee
At the time, I found this out later, I thought that teardrops meant that he was emotional or something.
I didn't know about death.
joe rogan
Okay.
Even if he didn't have teardrops on his face, the look in that guy's eyes, the whole group of them, they were serious people.
bobby lee
I don't want to make assumptions about people!
joe rogan
Okay.
Do you have any self-preservation instincts whatsoever?
bobby lee
What do you mean?
unidentified
What do you mean?
joe rogan
Did you have any self-preservation instincts?
bobby lee
Why from the suburbs?
We don't know danger that way.
We had no homeless.
We had surfers.
joe rogan
You should be just inherently like a child sees a dog's teeth and is scared of them.
You should see that guy growling and go, okay, this is real.
bobby lee
Joe, I'm 52 now.
I've never had anything happen to me.
So I feel like my instincts, right, are on point.
joe rogan
You're also very likable.
bobby lee
I'm likable.
joe rogan
People decide not to kill you.
bobby lee
I smile.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
So, what the fuck, dog?
joe rogan
I go, yeah.
Yeah.
That's a good move.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But that was our introduction.
That's how we became friends.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
It didn't even fuck up our relationship.
bobby lee
It didn't fucking know.
joe rogan
We stayed friends.
bobby lee
I came to LA and then I think that grew.
What year did you come to LA? 97 or 98, like in that time period.
joe rogan
Boy, what a weird time at the store that was, huh?
bobby lee
The dark ages.
joe rogan
But it was really good for us.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because you would go on stage in the OR and it'd be half full and it was like a real good place to fuck around and practice.
bobby lee
Oh, so the people that did it really did it because there was no light at the end of the tunnel.
joe rogan
Not anymore.
I think the store goes through eras, and it had gone through the Kinison era, and when Kinison died, I think there was a big drop-off.
bobby lee
It was terrible times.
On a Saturday night in the OR, they couldn't start the show without four people being in the audience, and there would be sometimes no show.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
On a Saturday fucking night.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was crazy.
bobby lee
It was crazy, dude.
joe rogan
But then it came back.
It came back when the internet came around.
It came back in the early 2000s.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, it came back.
bobby lee
And I reaped the reward.
I'm so glad it didn't quit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm so glad you didn't quit, too.
bobby lee
Yeah, I saw, dude, I saw some crazy...
I saw one time at two in the morning.
I was working the door there.
joe rogan
Yeah?
bobby lee
And I saw people in purple robes go up into the belly room.
joe rogan
Uh-oh.
bobby lee
With candles.
joe rogan
Oh, Jesus.
bobby lee
Right?
So, you know how you can sneak up to the belly room through the green room with those offices and stuff, right?
joe rogan
Were they supposed to be up there?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh.
bobby lee
I'm not lying.
joe rogan
This is the 90s?
bobby lee
Yeah.
unidentified
Okay.
bobby lee
Right?
I peek through, they formed a circle, and they had candles up.
unidentified
What?
bobby lee
No, no, no, no, no baby eating.
unidentified
Okay.
bobby lee
I'd have to report that.
unidentified
Okay.
bobby lee
Okay?
And they were doing seances.
joe rogan
The comedy store, if any place is haunted, the comedy store is haunted.
bobby lee
They were trying to seance Andy Kaufman's ghost.
joe rogan
Oh.
bobby lee
And when I went back downstairs, the people that went with the robes, they came back down and they were in their regular clothes.
Lily Tomlin, Bob Zamuda.
unidentified
Whoa.
bobby lee
I saw it with my own eyes.
unidentified
Whoa.
bobby lee
It was fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Whoa.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, why not?
You know?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
You get a little high.
unidentified
Someone comes up with an idea.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Why do we have to wear the robes?
Because it'd be fun.
And then you get into the candles.
bobby lee
Right, right, right, right.
joe rogan
It sounds like something me and Duncan would do.
bobby lee
Yeah.
Nice robes, probably, too.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'm sure.
joe rogan
Lily Tom would.
I mean, she's not going to wear some bullshit robe.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Have some respect.
bobby lee
Speaking of Duncan, when I got sober, when I had that 17-year chunk, and anyone out there listening, right?
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
I needed to get all my drugs out of my house.
So he was the only one that could do it.
So when I called him, he came out of my house in five minutes.
He cleaned out my apartment in like 20 minutes, and then he made me a fish dinner.
joe rogan
Aww.
bobby lee
And then he took all my drugs and went away.
But I want to...
Duncan, if you're listening, thank you for that.
joe rogan
Duncan's the man.
bobby lee
He's the best.
Yeah.
joe rogan
We lived together once for a while.
bobby lee
Where?
joe rogan
In my house.
For six months.
In Austin?
unidentified
In California.
bobby lee
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
He got kicked out of his apartment.
Or the house.
He was dating this lady, and she got tired of him, playing video games all day.
bobby lee
Really?
joe rogan
And he calls me up.
He goes, dude, I don't know what to do.
I'm in a hotel.
She kicked me out.
I go, come live with me.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
I got this big ass house.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
So Duncan lived with me for like six months.
And I had a sensory deprivation tank in the basement.
bobby lee
I saw that.
joe rogan
Duncan would go down the basement and trip balls and sort his life out.
bobby lee
Was he messy?
joe rogan
No.
No, Duncan was a great roommate.
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
He was awesome.
Yeah.
bobby lee
Did you have to kick him out or no?
joe rogan
No.
No, no.
He eventually got back on his feet again.
bobby lee
Right.
joe rogan
And, you know, we had a great time.
Like, he had stayed there for years.
We had a wonderful time.
It was a lot of fun.
unidentified
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
It was like, Duncan's one of my best friends.
So, like, having one of my best friends in my house.
And the house is big, so it's not like we were on top of each other.
I could be way the fuck...
The phone didn't even work in the whole house.
I'd have to transfer phones to go to other parts of the house.
bobby lee
Wow.
joe rogan
It's a big-ass house.
So if Duncan's over in that side, I'm on over in this side, we're not even in each other's hair.
Didn't even bother each other.
So it was really cool, man.
It was cool having meals with him, hanging out with him.
So for like six months, we were roommates.
bobby lee
And to think that he was not even a stand-up at one point, he was the talent coordinator.
joe rogan
Well, he was a stand-up.
He was trying to do stand-up when he was the talent coordinator.
We became friends because I would call up and give my veils, and then we would have crazy conversations.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's like, did you see this thing with Ram Dass?
unidentified
And he looked at his place.
joe rogan
And we would talk about UFOs, Bigfoot and shit.
That's why when the Joe Rogan Questions Everything show, that's why I did it with him.
He's the perfect guy to do this with.
And Ari, too.
Ari did some of the episodes as well.
But Duncan was always trying to do stand-up.
He was just unorthodox in his approach.
bobby lee
But then he got good.
Like that fucking doll.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Little Hobo is one of the best sets, one of the best bits I've ever seen.
bobby lee
It was so good.
joe rogan
It's so good.
She did it the other night at the mothership.
bobby lee
Oh, did you really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's incredible.
He's got a new Little Hobo, too.
Somebody stole Little Hobo.
bobby lee
No.
joe rogan
Yeah, some piece of shit stole a little hobo.
bobby lee
A little hobo was like an antique doll, too, right?
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't remember how someone stole it.
bobby lee
No, but where do you get another little hobo?
joe rogan
Oh, you go on eBay.
bobby lee
Oh, you can get little hobos on eBay?
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
The new one he's got is creepy as fuck.
unidentified
Oh, really?
bobby lee
I want to get a little hobo.
joe rogan
Yeah, you can go online and get antique puppets.
bobby lee
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
It's thousands of dollars probably.
joe rogan
I don't know.
There it is.
Is that the new Little Hobo?
bobby lee
Oh my god.
joe rogan
He's cute.
He's fucking creepy.
bobby lee
He lives here now, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, Duncan lives here.
bobby lee
Everyone's asking me to come.
joe rogan
You should come.
I know you're talking shit about moving to Austin, but listen.
bobby lee
No, I didn't.
joe rogan
Yeah, you did.
I watched the video.
bobby lee
No, I didn't.
joe rogan
Don't lie.
You did.
I'm not fucking moving to Austin.
I don't leave my neighborhood.
I don't go to Compton.
I stay right here.
bobby lee
Could I say something?
joe rogan
What?
bobby lee
You know what, man?
No, no, you know what, man?
You know what, man?
joe rogan
What?
bobby lee
Listen, you have to understand what you guys did.
joe rogan
What did we do?
unidentified
You guys took half of the talent out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
So I was just butthurt.
joe rogan
We brought another bunch in too.
Like Shane Gillis lives here.
bobby lee
I know.
I know he does now.
joe rogan
We're doing great.
bobby lee
I know you guys are killing it.
joe rogan
We're having so much fun.
unidentified
I went to the club last night.
joe rogan
Come move here.
bobby lee
I know, but you're more than...
joe rogan
Paulie's thinking about it.
Paulie's here a lot.
bobby lee
I know.
joe rogan
Paulie was just here the other day.
bobby lee
Theo's thinking about it.
joe rogan
Theo's thinking about it.
Right, yeah.
They're all just worried that people go, Oh, you moved there to suck on Rogan's nuts.
bobby lee
I would never suck your nuts.
joe rogan
I don't ask.
bobby lee
I wouldn't do it.
joe rogan
If you did, it would be a problem.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'd be like, why are you doing this?
I'd have to be asleep.
bobby lee
Would you hurt me?
No.
Okay, we weren't camping.
joe rogan
If I woke up and you were sucking my ass, I wouldn't hurt you.
bobby lee
What?
joe rogan
I would yell at you.
I wouldn't hurt you.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'd be like, what the fuck, dude?
That felt good.
I was in the middle of a dream.
What if I was in the middle of a sex dream and you sucked my nuts and I came?
bobby lee
I would be so mindful, too.
joe rogan
Bro, that would be a real problem for the rest of my life.
The hardest I ever came.
bobby lee
I wouldn't do it.
joe rogan
I was sleeping.
I was having a sex dream.
Bobby Lee was sucking my nuts.
I don't know why he was doing it.
It was just for fun.
bobby lee
I've sucked nuts before, but like, you know.
joe rogan
I get it.
bobby lee
Yeah, me and Santino will maybe talk about it.
joe rogan
Listen, man, it's a great place to live.
It's a great place tax-wise.
It's a great place traffic-wise.
It's a great place.
The most important thing is people-wise.
The people here are so friendly.
Austin people are great people.
They're really nice.
They're not shitheads.
They're not Hollywood people.
They're not lost in this fake world of leftist ideology that everybody's trapped in.
They're just people.
They're just regular people, man.
And those people exist outside of these These blue bubbles where everyone's gone insane.
Well, I used to be a part of the blue bubble.
I was 100% a left-leaning person who lived in Los Angeles.
I was 100%.
I never voted Republican my whole life.
I was very left-leaning, especially with any social issues.
When it comes to financial things, I'm a little bit more conservative, but at the end of the day, way more left than I am right.
But California went nuts, man.
It's gone like full communist.
It's out of its fucking mind.
And their approach to law enforcement is so insane.
It's so insane.
The no cash bail, the letting people out for committing violent crimes, the fucking not stopping people for stealing up to whatever money it is.
What is it, $900 now?
I think they raised it.
I think they made it a little higher.
San Francisco is non-existent.
San Francisco, most of San Francisco is emptied out of like big chain stores and big department stores.
bobby lee
I won't even do stand-up there anymore.
It's crazy.
They ruined it.
joe rogan
They ruined the city.
You can bring it back.
The structure's still there.
But you'd have to have some hardcore Rudy Giuliani type motherfucker to come in there and knock heads.
bobby lee
Wow.
b-real
And nobody wants that.
joe rogan
Nobody wants that.
They're peace, love, and granola and fucking wear a mask.
bobby lee
I'm in the middle now.
joe rogan
I'm in the middle.
I'm in the middle.
bobby lee
I never thought I would ever say that.
joe rogan
Never.
bobby lee
It only happened in this last year.
unidentified
Right.
Exactly.
bobby lee
I just went, I can't do it anymore.
People that you thought were aligned with you are now mad at you about shit.
joe rogan
They're in a cult.
They're in a cult.
It's got all...
I mean...
Mark Andreessen, who's a brilliant venture capitalist guy, explained it to me in very clear terms.
Like what the definition of a cult is, how you can get excommunicated, how you get shamed for having differing opinions, the group think, the whole...
He's like, it's a cult.
And he's right.
He's 100% right.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's just hard to say because then people in the cult will attack you.
But they're not attacking you for a reasonable...
It's not logical, the way they're attacking you.
They're attacking you like someone attacks religious beliefs.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
And some of these religious beliefs, it gets into these weird gray areas, like trans people in women's bathrooms.
Like, says who?
Says who?
How do you know that's a real trans person?
How do you not know that's a fucking creep that wants to pull his dick out in front of kids?
Because those are real.
bobby lee
We spa.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And if that guy was a convicted sex offender.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And he was doing that.
Look, those guys are real.
It doesn't mean trans people aren't real also, but those guys are fucking real.
And to even say that those guys are real, you get excommunicated.
You get treated like you're a Nazi.
bobby lee
I never even cared about it.
joe rogan
Didn't care at all.
bobby lee
Yeah, I mean, whatever you are, I don't give a shit.
You know what I mean?
But it's like, I can't do it anymore.
joe rogan
I think it's engineered.
I really do.
unidentified
By who?
joe rogan
By China and by Russia.
bobby lee
Oh no, Chinese.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I think what they're doing by manipulating social media, manipulating algorithms, I think some of it is natural.
Don't get me wrong.
I think some of it would have happened either way.
It happened during the 70s with the hippie movement.
There's always like...
There's always these people that want to live completely outside of the norm of conformity of society.
And there's always people like that.
But what's going on now is very different, and it's accentuated by social media.
And I think it's accentuated by algorithms naturally, because people are inclined to go towards things that upset them.
But also, it's done purposely.
And I think it's done, if you have enough stuff About like whatever the thing is whether it's black lives matter or whether it's Ukraine or whether it's power free Palestine from the river to the sea if you have enough of that Online it moves the needle and the way I described it the other day.
It's like if two ships I go in a certain direction.
This is a ship where people logically work through things, and this is a ship that's adjusted by the algorithm, affected by the algorithm.
It just moves that much.
Over time, this is what we're seeing.
So over time, you and I, who used to be on the left, are now like, where's the left?
Where are you guys?
bobby lee
You guys are so far away!
joe rogan
I can't even see you!
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You're out of your mind.
You're fucking chopping dicks off and giving little kids hormone blockers.
You have no idea what the long-term consequences are.
You're ignoring the health risks.
You won't even talk about the health risks.
You use things like...
Gender-affirming care!
bobby lee
What are you saying?
joe rogan
What are you saying when you're talking about children?
Why are you just accepting this?
Because it's a noble thing to blurt out, so everybody goes, you're on the right team.
That's what it is.
It's not like, oh my god, what are we doing to kids?
It's not like, oh my god, what are we doing to San Francisco?
It's not like, oh my god, why are we letting these violent criminals out of jail?
It's like, oh my god, why are we defunding the fucking police?
What are you doing?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
You can't say any of those things.
You say any of those things you're a nut.
You get nervous?
No.
bobby lee
Okay.
joe rogan
I live here.
bobby lee
Right.
joe rogan
This is Texas.
In Texas, 99% of the people agree with me.
Even the left-leaning people here are way more reasonable.
bobby lee
Even last night, there's a joke that I tell that if I say it in a liberal city, it dies.
You know what I mean?
And it's a joke about, you know what I mean, Down syndrome people making love.
And they make up their own moves.
Right?
And they know traditional moves.
And I did it last night.
It crushed both shows.
And I felt like...
Oh, this is, you know what I mean, what I've been, I think, maybe looking for.
joe rogan
Well, that club is specifically designed and nurtured just for what's funny.
That's it.
There is no message here.
Unless you have a message and it's funny and it's in there, you want to do it, that's fine.
But what's valued is comedy.
Just like if you go to a music show, you don't want those in between the music speeches about climate change.
Shut the fuck up.
Shut the fuck up and play the song.
Entertain me.
We want to develop stand-up comedy, like real stand-up comedy, because I think it's a worthy art form.
I think it's very valuable to people in terms of enjoyment and in terms of mental health and in terms of society.
It's an important part of society.
Like the Lakota had a person in their tribe that was called the Hayoka.
And Heyoko was the sacred clown.
And this was the person that made fun of everything.
Because if you couldn't make fun of something, it was bullshit.
Like if this was one guy, oh, you can't make fun of him.
Well, that's probably bullshit.
He probably has an inappropriate amount or an inappropriate amount of power.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
A disproportionate amount of influence.
It's like probably some ego going on here, too, if you can't make fun of something.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because if you can make fun of something and it's not funny, then you're not funny.
But if you can make fun of something and it's funny and people laugh and someone gets mad, they're the problem.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're the problem.
bobby lee
And I want to say something.
I never said this before.
I want to say it now, right?
Is just for my personal life, some of the bullying that I received was necessary for me to get to where I am now.
joe rogan
Well, you don't want it.
bobby lee
I don't want it.
No, I didn't ever want it.
joe rogan
I know what you're saying.
bobby lee
But I wouldn't go back in my past and change anything.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I wouldn't either.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
Because I feel like everything...
My dad was fucking violent as fuck, dude.
Like, he would knock my mom's tooth out.
She has a missing tooth right here.
You know what I mean?
And we witnessed all this trauma.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
Right?
And he was like...
Dude, it was like...
It was fucking terrible.
I had done EMDR on just him.
Trauma therapy, right?
And then, you know, I was a little guy in an American high school, and people would bully me.
I lived in Minnesota.
They thought I was an Eskimo.
They threw ice chunks at my head.
Anyway, my point is that all those little things, and even in comedy, it was hard being me, this little guy, you know what I mean, doing it.
Black comics would sometimes come up to me.
Asians aren't funny.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Well, there was always that knock on Asians.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's be honest, like Henry Cho was like the first guy that went mainstream.
bobby lee
I love him.
joe rogan
He was the first guy that went mainstream.
bobby lee
I love him.
joe rogan
Wasn't he?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Ronnie Chang's fucking hilarious.
bobby lee
I love Ronnie.
joe rogan
That dude is so good.
bobby lee
So funny.
joe rogan
He's so funny.
He's got so much attitude on stage.
bobby lee
Johnny Yoon was before him.
joe rogan
That's right.
bobby lee
Johnny Yoon.
joe rogan
He's funny too.
bobby lee
Yeah, he's very funny.
joe rogan
But there was a knock.
But dude, nobody thought that when they saw you on stage.
You're a really funny guy.
You're very good.
bobby lee
Thank you.
joe rogan
Very good comic.
bobby lee
Thank you.
joe rogan
You're a very good comic.
bobby lee
Yeah.
And I also want to tell you the reason why I didn't want to do this now is because I'm doing a special and I want to promote it.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
And I thought maybe I could only do it once every five years, but then your people said that I could do it when I... You can do this anytime you want.
I feel that now.
joe rogan
You have my number.
bobby lee
I'm going to call you.
I'm going to text you.
I'm going to text you.
I'm going to do it.
joe rogan
Anytime you want to.
bobby lee
I love you.
It's going to be great.
joe rogan
Listen, I love you.
bobby lee
I'm happy we do this.
Yeah, I get it.
unidentified
All right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
bobby lee
I get it now.
I know now how it works.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
bobby lee
But yeah, I was like, I have to do one.
I have to do a special.
joe rogan
You really should, because it'll also force you to write more and fuck around more.
But you need a place to do that, and that's why you should move here.
There's so much stage time here, dude.
bobby lee
That's why in March, I talk to Adam.
I go, I'm going to do shows here in the Little Room to do Bobby Lee New Joke Night.
joe rogan
Let's go, Bobby Lee.
unidentified
Let's go.
bobby lee
And then me and Adam are going to do a Star Trek podcast.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
bobby lee
And at that point, you're going to watch The Inner Light.
It's 40 minutes You really think that's the best science fiction ever better than alien the first alien movie with Sigourney Weaver But you have to think though that it you know because obviously the budget is an alien budget Right, so it's cheesy television, right?
But if the concept you know, I mean was mind-blowing at the time when I saw that in my early 20s It blew my fucking mind Yeah.
And it's like, I don't want to give it away now, you know what I mean?
Can I try to sell it to you real quick or no?
Why not?
joe rogan
I'm sure it's okay.
bobby lee
Yeah.
All right, I will say, but you're going to watch it.
joe rogan
I'll watch that one episode that you told me to watch.
bobby lee
Thank you, thank you, thank you.
And then make fun of me about it.
joe rogan
I will.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Most certainly.
But that's not the best science fiction ever.
unidentified
That's crazy.
bobby lee
If you Google the best television sci-fi episode, the interlock is in the top three.
joe rogan
You know what's a super underrated television sci-fi show?
bobby lee
What?
joe rogan
Battlestar Galactica.
The new version?
bobby lee
So good!
joe rogan
So good.
bobby lee
I've seen it twice already all the way through.
joe rogan
It's incredible.
bobby lee
It's incredible.
joe rogan
It's a really good show.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You think of it as a science fiction show, but it's a really good psychology show.
The way they had it set up, it's fucking terrifying.
bobby lee
I just got goosebumps when you said it, dude.
joe rogan
It's so good, and it's so appropriate to watch today.
bobby lee
And they kept jumping every hour because they're so scared.
Oh my god, it was so good.
joe rogan
And also the combination of artificial people and real people.
bobby lee
Oh my god.
joe rogan
It's really difficult because that's something that we're gonna have to navigate.
They didn't have AI then.
They didn't have that aspect of it that worked out.
You know, that wasn't like a terrifying force.
That they were dealing with as well, but the Cylons were awesome.
The robot murderers.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
bobby lee
And they also kept some of the old-school Cylons there too, but the new-school ones were like, you couldn't tell.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, there was new-school Cylons and old-school Cylons.
That's a great fucking show.
bobby lee
I can't believe it.
I'm crying.
And you know, I love it.
What's the pop face guy?
joe rogan
Oh, the head guy.
Shit.
Almost?
bobby lee
Edward James Olmos.
Edward James Olmos.
joe rogan
He's amazing.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
So good in that.
joe rogan
He's amazing.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's a great fucking show.
Like, great acting, great stories, great special effects.
It really flew under the radar.
I think it was on, like, FX or something like that.
bobby lee
Sci-fi channel.
joe rogan
Sci-fi.
bobby lee
Sci-fi channel.
joe rogan
That's what it was.
So, like, not enough people were on that channel.
bobby lee
But now, you know that I saw it, right?
I'm telling you, the inner light rivals it.
joe rogan
Rivals, okay.
bobby lee
You'll watch it and go, okay, that's like the same kind of feel.
joe rogan
Rivals is reasonable?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
What's your favorite sci-fi movie?
bobby lee
Oh shit.
In terms of like entertainment?
joe rogan
Yeah, what's something you just loved?
bobby lee
My favorite sci-fi, Aliens is one of, the original Alien was good.
Yeah, because you know, Harry Dean Stanton was great.
Here's what I loved about it.
The cast was so believable.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
And that was also the first time there was like a female action star that you didn't feel like they were shoehorning it in your face that she's female.
She was stuck in that role.
That's not the role she wanted.
She wasn't some badass.
She was someone rising to the occasion, becoming a badass in the face of this horrific thing that killed everybody else on her spaceship.
Spoiler alert.
bobby lee
It's 1979. They also felt like real truckers, almost.
The ship lived in.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
Oily, almost, you know?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
Yeah, it was fucking amazing.
joe rogan
It's a great fucking movie.
bobby lee
It's a great fucking movie.
joe rogan
But Aliens 2, not as good.
bobby lee
Not as good, but still entertaining.
joe rogan
Different kind of movie.
That was like, the aliens were easy to kill all of a sudden.
And there was like a lot of them.
bobby lee
Oh, right.
Well, they're Marines, though.
joe rogan
Yeah, but it doesn't matter.
The aliens were so...
The alien, the first one, was so clever and so fast and so sneaky.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And then all of a sudden, they're not.
All of a sudden they're just fucking idiots.
They're just running at you like the British with the fucking white cross on their chest.
It didn't make any sense.
Their characteristics were completely different.
They were the dumb aliens.
And then the big one, the big female, the mama, the queen.
bobby lee
That was fun.
joe rogan
She should've fucked Sigourney Weaver up like that.
It didn't make any sense.
bobby lee
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
With that stupid, you bitch.
With the robot thing.
Your whole body's exposed, Pope.
Now you're dead.
bobby lee
What are you talking about?
Okay, okay.
joe rogan
And why is it moving so slow?
All the above.
It should've been...
bobby lee
Well, she has babies in her belly.
joe rogan
You ever see a praying mantis kill a hummingbird?
bobby lee
I don't watch stuff like that, man.
joe rogan
You should watch that.
Because the praying mantis is like the human or the Earth-like equivalent of what one of those alien things are.
The alien thing is an enormous praying mantis, probably even more violent and more deadly.
And I just don't buy Sigourney Weaver with a stupid fucking robot crane suit on kicking its ass.
bobby lee
Does it make me a pussy when I watch Planet Earth and I see a lion chase a gazelle or whatever and I fast forward?
joe rogan
No.
You just don't want to see the suffering.
bobby lee
I don't want to see it.
But does that make me weak though?
joe rogan
No.
No, it's not weak.
You just don't want to experience it.
bobby lee
Yeah, I don't want to experience it.
joe rogan
You know what it is.
You've seen it before.
bobby lee
Yeah, I've seen it happen.
joe rogan
You don't have to see a lion eating a fucking gazelle guts first over and over and over again.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Or hyenas.
The hyenas ones, the wild dog ones, those are the ruthless ones.
bobby lee
Yeah, those are crazy.
joe rogan
Because they're pulling the guts out while the thing is trying to stand up.
bobby lee
It's good, it's good.
joe rogan
Fuck, man.
At least the lions kill you first.
The cats always kill you.
They don't just eat you.
Cats grab you by the neck and they fucking kill you.
Wow.
But dogs, wild dogs and hyenas and bears, they just start eating you.
bobby lee
And then the alligator, you have to do a twirl with them.
joe rogan
Yeah, you might not die for an hour.
bobby lee
With an alligator?
joe rogan
With a lot of different creatures.
bobby lee
Oh, really?
joe rogan
It depends on what...
Well, alligators will take you underwater.
They'll drown you because they want to stuff you into a log so you can rot.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you're easier to consume.
bobby lee
What animal could I think I could survive, you think?
joe rogan
A mouse.
Maybe a mouse.
Maybe.
bobby lee
No.
joe rogan
A really angry mouse, you'd probably run into a wall.
unidentified
Well, with a bear, maybe.
bobby lee
You don't think so?
joe rogan
A bear.
bobby lee
Yeah, but I would just not freeze.
joe rogan
I don't think that works.
bobby lee
Freezing doesn't work?
joe rogan
Depends on why they're there.
bobby lee
All right.
joe rogan
If they're there to eat you, no, that's not going to work.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
If they're there to scare you away from their children, maybe.
Maybe it'll work.
bobby lee
But do you know what to do?
joe rogan
No, there's no what to do.
There's not a lot to do.
bobby lee
Because when you go to Hawaii and you swim with the sharks, they give you rules.
That doesn't even work.
You don't splash.
joe rogan
Did you hear about that kid that was just in the shark tank?
Was it in the Bahamas?
You got a bit?
They had some shark tank experience and some kid got bit by a shark.
Some kid, I think, from Maryland.
bobby lee
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, don't fuck around, man.
They don't know that it's a shark tank.
They're sharks.
They're sharks.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
And a bear is, like, to think you know what to do, maybe if you spray it with pepper spray to run away, maybe.
Maybe it won't.
Maybe if you shoot it, you'll stop it in its tracks, or maybe you only have like a 9mm, and you can pump it full of 4, 5, 6 holes, and it still tears you apart.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah, if you're gonna shoot it with a gun, you want a large caliber rifle.
You want like a.300 Win Mag.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
You want something big, something BOOM! BOOM! Yeah.
You want to put large holes in that gigantic monster predator.
bobby lee
What about sword, no?
joe rogan
No, you're fucked.
bobby lee
Okay, okay, okay.
joe rogan
You'll fucking bounce it off its nose and it'll just get mad at you.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You'll miss.
You'll panic.
It's just hard.
The speed that it moves at will astound all your senses.
You'll panic because you'll realize you don't have the reaction time.
You don't have the physical movement time capable of dealing with how fast it's coming at you.
Your body doesn't work good enough to do that.
bobby lee
You know, I would run toward it and just get it over with.
joe rogan
That might work.
bobby lee
I'll just run and I'll just jump right into the head, maybe.
joe rogan
It depends on where it bites you.
The thing about those things is they don't necessarily kill.
They just hold down and eat.
They just hold you down and start eating.
bobby lee
Alright, okay!
joe rogan
You know Grizzly Man, that documentary?
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That video where the lens cap was on, but they have an audio of him dying.
It's like...
bobby lee
It's so horrifying, I know.
joe rogan
It's like five minutes long.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Five minutes of that thing eating him alive.
Five minutes is so long before you're dead.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta think of how long it is that something just weighs a thousand pounds, putting its paw on your chest and just pulling your guts out, screaming, eating your dick first.
bobby lee
I've bombed for five minutes and it seems like 20 minutes.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
Imagine getting eating.
bobby lee
Oh my god.
unidentified
Right.
bobby lee
Forever.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
Oh my god.
Do you bomb anymore?
joe rogan
A juggle bomb, yeah.
We also do Bottom of the Barrel.
You know Bottom of the Barrel?
No.
It's like one of those shows where the audience has suggestions, and you reach into the barrel and pull out the suggestions, and then you just riff.
Boy, I bombed on those shows.
bobby lee
Oh, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, you can't.
Sometimes there's no suggestion.
Sometimes it's like green sneakers.
bobby lee
Oh my God, it's so hard.
joe rogan
The fuck am I going to do with this?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because sometimes people are trying to trip you up.
Sometimes people have good suggestions.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Some of them are actually almost in the form of jokes.
Some of them are really funny.
bobby lee
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
So you just randomly pull out a topic?
Randomly.
And the audience fills it out?
joe rogan
Exactly.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And it's like, sometimes it's an amazing premise factory, because sometimes, because you're on the spot like that, every now and then, an idea will pop into your head.
You're like, oh shit, that's a bit.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then that bit, you get home and you listen to it and you write it down.
Like, there's three or four bits that I've gotten that are actual bits now, because of that show.
bobby lee
I want to admit to something to you right now, if I may.
I do.
I want to admit something to you right now, if I may.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
The reason why I haven't done a special is because of the fear of doing new shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, of course.
Of course.
bobby lee
It's shameful.
joe rogan
Yeah, but this idea that you have of a Bobby Lee new joke night.
bobby lee
I'm forcing myself to do it.
joe rogan
Perfect.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Perfect.
Perfect.
bobby lee
Because, you know, when you guys left the store, And I don't want to make fun of...
I love all the comics, dude, but it's like, you know, sometimes when the headliners, like the guys with names, leave town for the weekends, you look at some of the lineups there, you know what I mean?
And so when I'm...
They're not as strong.
So when I'm in town, I'm in the main room, I have the prime spot, it's packed.
I have this fucking pressure to crush.
joe rogan
Of course.
bobby lee
You know, because I just know that they're there to see me, and I want to give them a good show.
joe rogan
Well, you could do sets other places, too, you know?
Do sets other places.
Go to the Ha Ha.
Fuck around at the Ice House.
Go to Flappers.
Go fuck around in other spots.
bobby lee
Flappers?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I know you're saying that, but it's like, go up there.
It's a crowd.
Yeah.
You know?
unidentified
Fuck around.
joe rogan
Burr fucks around there.
bobby lee
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Burr likes to do that.
He likes to go to the Ice House.
He'll fuck around there.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You gotta kinda fuck around.
You gotta come up with ideas and sit down.
Like last night...
I told myself, I'm going to go to bed early.
I was in front of the computer at 10 o'clock and I was like, I'll stop at 12 and I'll go to bed.
But then I caught an idea.
I caught an idea and I wrote it out until like 3.30 in the morning.
I was just writing.
And when I do that, I'm like, okay, that was productive.
Even though I'm tired and I woke up late today, even though I'm tired, I'm like, but that was productive.
And if I can force myself to do that three, four times a week, And sometimes, dude, I'll just sit in front of that fucking computer and it's just nonsense.
It's just nonsense.
It's nothing.
It's embarrassing.
It's terrible.
There's nothing to this.
I'm trying to work it out.
You know, I'll fucking take a little of that, go over it again.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
And sometimes nothing.
Sometimes I got nothing.
bobby lee
But when you write something, though, and you look at it, right, do you go, okay, this is like a 60%.
Like, do you do that?
joe rogan
It totally depends.
bobby lee
It depends.
joe rogan
Sometimes it's like 100%.
Some bits, like, as I write them, that's exactly how I perform them.
It's not normal, but it happens.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
And then some bits are just seeds.
It's just a seed.
And I gotta throw that bitch on stage and see where it goes.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
And sometimes it doesn't go anywhere.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
I think it's like Ron White was telling the story the other day about this joke that he had that he thought was really funny.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he had planned, I had it planned in my mind when it was going to be applause break.
He goes, you got fucking nothing.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It happens.
bobby lee
Yeah, it does, yeah.
joe rogan
But that's the beauty of creation because every now and then I have this new bit that's killing and it's so exciting to get to it because it's like this is like this bit is alive.
It's like it was just born.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just flexing.
You know?
It's fun.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's fun, but it's also hard.
But you gotta, you know, you gotta pay devotion to the muse.
You gotta sit down and try to, like, let the ideas come to you.
If you don't have a moment where you're just sitting down and just letting the ideas come to you, you're gonna miss those ideas.
And some people say, oh, I only write on stage, I only write with my friends.
That's great.
You should do that, too.
But there's nothing wrong with, like, sitting...
It's not gonna hurt you to sit in front of a computer and go over your ideas.
And every now and then...
Maybe every two times or five times, every ten times you sit in front of that computer or that notebook, something pops up that wouldn't have popped up without it.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you gotta like suffer through the ones that suck, the drudge of not being able to come up with anything.
bobby lee
My problem is I have these second addictions I have, like video games.
joe rogan
Right, in your front of the computer you start playing video games.
bobby lee
Yeah, and I'll just start playing Starfield or something, and 16 hours later I'm on a planet, and I'm making an outpost, right?
And I feel guilt, or I'll play Stardew Valley, I'll create a farm, right?
But it's a haunting thing, like, what the fuck are you doing?
What the fuck are you doing?
What the fuck are you doing?
joe rogan
Right, you're wasting your time.
bobby lee
I'm wasting my time.
I know this, but for the same reason I can convince myself Well, here's the thing.
joe rogan
If you do the work first, like say if you sit down, you say, I can only play computer games if I write a thousand words.
So when you get to a thousand on a Word document, you look at the bottom, it'll tell you how many words you've written, and then you can stop.
bobby lee
That's what I'm gonna do.
joe rogan
Yeah, just earn it.
Earn it.
That way you'll actually enjoy it.
That way when you're playing the games, it won't be in your head, oh my god, I should be writing, oh my god, I should be doing something else.
And by the way, it doesn't have to be you write something funny.
You could just write something about something and then try to extract funny things out of it.
Like, you could just write a story about how violent your dad was.
Like that, what you just told me, which is horrific, right?
If you wrote that out, I guarantee you there's gonna be a seed of something in there.
Something.
It might not even be about your dad being violent.
Maybe it'd be about how you react to violence.
Or maybe how you react to, you know, angry people.
I just want everybody to be nice.
You could find, like, a premise in there.
So just write an essay.
Just write an essay and write an essay with no expectation of whether or not it's gonna be funny.
bobby lee
Yeah, I used to do morning pages.
You ever do that?
joe rogan
No, just get up in the morning and write?
bobby lee
Right when you wake up, apparently, when you just start writing.
joe rogan
That's supposed to be the best time to write.
bobby lee
Yeah.
Well, you don't have those, like, filters and stuff, like, this sucks.
Just freely write it, and then just pages of it, maybe a couple, you know what I mean?
And then later you look at it, you know what I mean?
Maybe I'll start doing that again.
I don't fucking know.
joe rogan
That's how most writers do.
When they write, they write in the morning, and then they go for a walk.
A lot of them do.
And they listen to some of their notes.
And they'll go over the idea that they wrote down, and they'll take voice notes while they're walking.
There's something about walking, they say, because it's like a very mild aerobic exercise.
So it stimulates your circulation.
It gets everything flowing.
You actually think a little bit better when you're walking.
Okay.
You're not tired.
It's a mild thing.
So you're just out there walking, and your heart is pumping, and you're not sitting there sedentary just trying to think.
You're actually walking around.
bobby lee
Okay, I'll try hiking then.
joe rogan
Yeah, hiking's good.
Hiking's good.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, hike after you, then you'll really have earned your video games, right?
Write, and then hike, and think about what you write, and then when you play, you'll be playing for fun.
You'll be enjoying it.
bobby lee
So from this day forth, From this day forth, I'm going to wake up, I'm making an announcement.
I'm going to wake up, I'm going to write for an hour, hike, and then I'm going to play video games.
joe rogan
I'm going to see you four months from now, you're going to be cracked out with a Klingon knife.
You went off the rails.
bobby lee
It was too much pressure!
unidentified
I was getting up every morning, I was writing, and then I was hiking, and it was just too much!
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
And my fish died!
bobby lee
I have to do it because now it's incredible.
When I do shows with Segura or me and Andrew, because I'm on a podcast called Bad Friends.
joe rogan
It's a funny podcast.
bobby lee
Thank you.
joe rogan
You guys are good together.
I want to talk to you about an episode that I saw.
But you having to go to Israel?
Was that on that or was that somewhere else?
bobby lee
Yeah, it was that.
joe rogan
What was that like?
Tell me what happened.
unidentified
Oh, God.
joe rogan
Do you not want to talk about it?
bobby lee
I can do it.
Because I'm not saying anything that's like wrong.
It's just something that happened.
I get a call from Steve Byrne.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
And Steve goes, you want to go to Israel?
joe rogan
How long ago was this?
bobby lee
14 years ago, maybe.
joe rogan
Oh!
Oh, okay.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
12, 14, I don't know.
And I go, why?
I don't want to do a show there.
And he goes, no.
You know, I got a call and they're flying out a bunch of comedians and actors and it's a free trip.
And I go, why?
I don't know.
They just want to show us the country.
And their culture.
And you get nice hotels, free meals, and you get a tour of like...
joe rogan
Are you not performing?
bobby lee
No.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
So I went there with Jamie Chung, Brian Greenberg, their actors, and Steve Lopez went out, George Lopez.
unidentified
Okay.
bobby lee
And we went out there, and then when we got there, they were like, welcome.
We're like, thanks.
And they were like, but every day you have to tweet how great Israel is.
joe rogan
Every day?
bobby lee
Yeah, like put out a tweet.
joe rogan
They told you you have to, and they didn't say anything about that before you left?
bobby lee
I don't remember them saying it before.
joe rogan
But they might have?
bobby lee
They could have.
joe rogan
Maybe they said it to Steve, and Steve conveniently left it out?
bobby lee
I don't know, but I do know that I feel like if they did say it, that I would have questioned it.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah.
So I don't know.
So this is the early days of Twitter, right?
Yeah.
Twitter's only like 12 years old.
bobby lee
It was 10 years ago then, I don't know.
joe rogan
How old is Twitter?
Oh, there it is.
Israel unfiltered.
bobby lee
So 2006. Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Look at that.
bobby lee
So 2006, when was that?
joe rogan
Look at your face!
bobby lee
I was like, I have to tweet?
Yeah, yeah.
But here's what happened.
As soon as I tweeted the first thing, I already knew, like, oh my god, I think I'm in trouble.
unidentified
Why?
joe rogan
What'd you say?
bobby lee
I just said, Israel's great, they're beautiful people, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
And they flew us out here for free, and then you would just get a thousand like, you know what I mean?
That were like, you know, Palestinian, you know?
And going, you mother...
It was like negative, negative, negative.
And there was these gigantic wars that would go on in the comment section.
joe rogan
Oh, boy.
bobby lee
It just got really uncomfortable.
And then I just remember, you know...
joe rogan
Yeah, there I am.
Nice hat.
unidentified
Nice hat.
joe rogan
You should wear that all the time.
bobby lee
I look cute with it.
joe rogan
Is that the famous wall?
bobby lee
That's the wall, yeah.
joe rogan
What would it feel like to be around that wall?
That wall's old as fuck, right?
How old's that wall?
bobby lee
I put a note in it.
joe rogan
Wow.
bobby lee
You could write little letters.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Letters to Jesus?
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
And you put it in there.
joe rogan
Dear Jesus, when you come out.
bobby lee
I think mine was like, let me get more pussy or whatever.
unidentified
Nice.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That wall.
How old's that wall?
19 BC. Yeah.
Wow.
bobby lee
But then toward the end, I was just like, I gotta get the fuck out of here, I think.
Yeah, I was just like...
joe rogan
How many tweets did you make?
And did you keep going after they were attacking you?
bobby lee
Yeah, I think so, yeah.
joe rogan
You have to, otherwise you don't get your hotel.
bobby lee
Yeah, it was like a free thing.
And I didn't know the significance of it until later, almost, like, you know what I mean, or the significance, but like, what the impact of it, you know?
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
Because I, you know, obviously, you know, I mean, obviously I have my opinions about it, you know what I mean, that I'm keeping to myself, but it's like...
It's not fully aligned with what people think I should be.
You have to be careful because I live in LA. Oh, I hear you.
joe rogan
Look, it's a complicated issue.
bobby lee
It's so complicated.
joe rogan
And it's terrifying.
Would you look at the video of when they do an overhead of what Gaza used to look like and what it looks like now?
I mean, it's insane.
It's fucking insane.
jamie vernon
It's going to take over a year to clean up just the rubble.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
bobby lee
But it's like 25,000 now?
At least.
At least.
joe rogan
They don't know how many people are dead.
They have no idea.
And half the population is women and children.
bobby lee
And the trauma.
joe rogan
Uh-huh.
bobby lee
And the fucking, you know, famine.
It's just, I just can't even comprehend it, really.
joe rogan
Yeah, and the Israelis tell you that it's necessary.
And that they have to get rid of Hamas.
And this is the way to do it.
bobby lee
I mean, I believe that.
I believe that.
I believe that maybe that should be...
But I think the approach could be different.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
Right or no?
joe rogan
I don't have any expertise in war.
bobby lee
Me either.
joe rogan
But I'm horrified that they can just shoot missiles into buildings.
And they tell people to get out, but then they bomb the areas where they're going to.
I mean, the whole thing's nuts, man.
It's nuts and it's so dangerous.
It's so dangerous.
These free Palestine marches that are happening all over the world, those are all organized too, by the way.
When you get on social media and you see the free Palestine people and the pro-Israel people, what percentage of those people are bots?
bobby lee
Right.
joe rogan
It's not zero.
It's not zero.
There's a lot of what's getting stirred up, a lot of the hateful things that are being said, a lot of the crazy things that are being said.
I guarantee you a lot of that's being instigated by foreign countries.
And that's what's scary about social media and the influence it has on people and the way they feel about a particular issue.
And that's on top of the horrific nature of the issue itself, both of October 7th, which is undeniably horrific, and then this.
And then on top of that, you have this open anti-Semitism that we never saw before, where it's just open everywhere.
It's wild!
bobby lee
It's fucking terrible.
joe rogan
It's so scary, man.
bobby lee
But it's also an issue that will never be resolved.
joe rogan
But it's not just that it'll never be resolved.
Like, I never thought it was going to be an issue where the presidents of, like, major universities were standing in front of Congress, and they were justifying people saying, death to the Jews, that it wasn't harassment unless it was actionable.
bobby lee
That's insane, yeah.
joe rogan
When the Congresswoman was trying to get them to expand on that, do you mean actual genocide, then it's harassment?
When they commit actual genocide?
What the fuck are you saying?
But it's the same thing we were talking about.
It's the cult.
They're in that leftist cult.
And it's not reasonable.
It doesn't make any sense.
It's all crazy.
bobby lee
Oh, and when they were like, Osama bin Laden could have been Ryan or whatever.
Do you remember that fucking trend?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
bobby lee
Fucking insane!
joe rogan
Mm-hmm.
bobby lee
What are you talking about?
And these are people, right, that weren't there.
I was there.
joe rogan
That's a TikTok thing too, by the way.
Yeah.
Osama Bin Laden.
bobby lee
In 2000, right?
2001, I was on MADtv.
9-11 happened.
I went to work the next day.
Andrew Daly, one of the actors, his cousin was on one of the flights, right?
And I could feel the pain.
Right?
And, you know, we were inundated with the fucking footage.
And just in the moment, it was fucking horrifying.
It changed America.
joe rogan
100%.
bobby lee
And now people that weren't even around then, kids, which is fine, but now they have these grand ideas about...
It's insane!
joe rogan
Well, it's also, where did Osama Bin Laden come from?
Well, he came from the CIA funding them, the Mujahideen, to fight against the Soviet Union.
They're trained.
They're trained by Americans.
Look, there's a certain reality to American imperialism.
It doesn't do anybody any good to deny it.
unidentified
We have military bases everywhere.
joe rogan
If you were a foreign country, in a nationalistic foreign country, of course you'd hate America.
Of course you'd hate what we do.
I mean, look at what's going on right now with this Ukraine-Russia thing.
Look at how much money is being funneled through that.
Insane amounts of money.
bobby lee
Yeah, and most of it's like embezzled, right?
joe rogan
Who fucking knows?
But again, it's not zero.
It's not zero percent.
It's getting embezzled.
And the fact that all of a sudden no one wanted to admit that Ukraine had always been a very corrupt country.
There's a crazy Twitter exchange between Candace Owens and the New York Times, where Candace Owens was talking about how corrupt Ukraine is, and then the New York Times says to her, Like, what evidence do you have that Ukraine is corrupt?
She goes, oh, you mean the links from your fucking newspaper?
And just from like 2016 and before that.
There's all these fucking stories about how corrupt Ukraine is.
In the New York Times.
They didn't even bother looking it up.
Because when you're in the cult, the cult says you support Ukraine.
Do you want Ukraine to win or do you want Russia to win?
Like, what the fuck are you even saying?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
How much do you know about why this thing was instigated in the first place?
How much do you know about NATO? About how much they're moving arms closer to the Soviet Union?
About how Ukraine joining NATO was always a red flag?
Do you know?
bobby lee
I don't know.
I don't know nothing.
joe rogan
Most people that are talking about it don't know either.
That was the red line that you could not cross.
Ukraine joining Russia.
Or joining NATO, rather.
anthony cumia
The whole thing's fucking terrifying.
joe rogan
Because we're dealing with nuclear superpowers.
When Xi Jinping tells Biden that Taiwan will join China again, like, that means they're going to take Taiwan?
What are we going to do if they take Taiwan?
And then Biden says we're not going to do anything.
Like, okay.
First he said we're going to stop them, now he says we're not going to do anything.
Like, oh my god.
And he's only saying whatever the fuck they write down for him.
The whole thing's nuts.
It's like who's deciding what happens and doesn't happen?
It's not that guy, right?
So if it's not him, who the fuck is it?
Is it the Secretary of State?
Is it the press secretary?
Is it the military-industrial complex?
Are they completely at the helm?
Will they ever let control of that wheel to anybody else now that they have it?
bobby lee
Is it the shit you think about when you lay in bed at night?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
bobby lee
How the fuck do you sleep?
joe rogan
Sometimes I don't.
That's a real problem at night.
At night, I have my most anxiety-filled moments about this stuff.
I've talked about it openly.
But I'll really freak out at night because I legitimately think we are one or two events away from living in the Stone Age again.
And I think it could happen in our lifetime, and it could happen to you and I. Like, I'm really convinced that the fabric of society is way more fragile than anyone appreciates.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
That most people appreciate, rather.
bobby lee
I mean, I feel it in the air.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, you saw it during the George Floyd times in LA. Oh, yeah.
bobby lee
I felt it.
joe rogan
That was Mad Max times.
bobby lee
Right.
joe rogan
When they were burning those cop cars on the highway, and I remember seeing that going, I gotta get the fuck out of here.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
This ain't gonna get better.
bobby lee
Was it that or COVID that made you?
joe rogan
Both those things.
bobby lee
And the money, probably, like, taxes?
joe rogan
No.
That was not even a consideration.
unidentified
Taxes, okay.
joe rogan
It was nice, but it was the freedom.
It was these fucking dipshits, like the mayor of Los Angeles, telling everybody what businesses they can and can't have open, what's essential and non-essential.
Like, says who?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
And after a while, when a bunch of people had had COVID and then gotten over it, and they were fine, I was like, well, wait a minute.
How scary is this?
And why are we closing everything down?
Why aren't we giving people choice?
bobby lee
I bought into it!
I didn't even leave the house for two fucking years!
I didn't even go to the grocery store, and I had to spray everything down.
Doritos, spraying it with...
It was insane!
joe rogan
Well, my whole family got it early on, before there was anything.
Before there was a vaccine, before there was anything.
And I didn't get it.
And I didn't do anything different.
I hugged my kids.
I fucked my wife.
I hung out with them.
I just took care of myself.
bobby lee
You've had a COVID though, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, I got it eventually.
bobby lee
Yeah, I got it too.
joe rogan
I got it when the Delta variant was around.
I got it when I was doing arenas in Florida.
And I got it because I was hanging out with my friend John Shulman.
My friend John Shulman is a buddy of mine who makes pool cues.
And he lives right there and I got to see him after the show and we played pool till like 3.30 in the morning and I was exhausted.
I had like fucking five margaritas and then I got sick.
But even then it wasn't that bad.
But my point is like my whole family got it and I didn't get it.
bobby lee
They weren't vaccinated.
joe rogan
No, no.
There was no vaccine back then.
And I didn't do anything different, man.
I remember I worked out two days where I was tired, and I realized I was fighting something off.
There was two days where I was in the gym.
I was like, you know what?
I'm just going to go through the motions here.
I'm just going to lift light weights and just let my body break a little bit of a sweat, but no exertion.
Just get some circulation going.
So I did some kettlebell exercises, like 35 pounds.
Nothing strenuous.
Just nice and light.
Just get the body moving.
And then the next day, I went back in the gym.
I feel the same.
Same thing.
Today, same thing.
Did some push-ups.
Did some chin-ups.
Nothing crazy like reps of five chin-ups.
Just a little bit of exercise.
Nothing strenuous.
And then the next day, I felt great.
The next day, I had a full regular workout.
So whatever it was, I fought it off.
And so then I was like, well, what...
What is at play here?
Can your immune system stop this, or is it something that you 100% get?
No, it seems very infectious, but it also seems like if you have a healthy immune system, this isn't a death sentence.
This isn't Ebola.
So what the fuck is going on?
And then the vaccine came out, and I signed up to get vaccinated.
The UFC had this whole allotment of vaccines.
But I was there on a Friday for the UFC, and they said, you have to go to the clinic.
And I said, I can't.
I don't have the time.
They said, can you come back Monday?
I said, no, but I'll be back in two weeks.
So I was going to get vaccinated in two weeks.
And in the two weeks, they pulled it.
They pulled the Johnson& Johnson for blood clots.
And two people I knew got strokes.
Two people.
bobby lee
Two people.
joe rogan
Within the 10 days of taking that vaccine, two people I knew had strokes.
Like healthy people.
Like weird blood clots.
People were getting blood clots.
bobby lee
I mean, it is true that if you were older, though, like 70, and you had some sort of like, you know what I mean, comorbidity?
joe rogan
What's the word?
Comorbidity.
bobby lee
Comorbidity, right?
That they could die, right?
I mean, that's a true thing, right?
Like Herman Cain, he died.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
They die of the flu, too.
I mean, it's a bad cold.
It's not dismissing what it is, but it's dismissing this control that all of a sudden the medical industrial complex and the government has over you and your job and your choices in your life for something that now they admit they could have never contained, that it was never going to stop transmission, that it was never going to stop infection.
It was all just lies.
They lied about the efficacy.
They lied about the protection in parts.
They put it out on MSNBC. Rachel Maddow.
The virus stops with you.
You can't get it.
unidentified
And it's not true.
joe rogan
It was not true.
There was no evidence that it did that.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Not only was there no evidence, they never even tested it for transmission.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
They just tested it to try to see if it makes antibodies.
bobby lee
But what scared me was when Michael Yeo, you know Michael Yeo.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
bobby lee
When he was in the ICU because of COVID. In my mind, I don't know why, because I know that Michael Yeo is athletic.
I thought to myself, oh, if he's in the ICU, I would have died!
joe rogan
Meanwhile, his mom got it, and she was fine.
bobby lee
Michael, yo, he's weak.
joe rogan
I don't know what it is, man.
It could have caught him absolutely exhausted.
bobby lee
Maybe, yeah.
joe rogan
That's what I've heard of people getting it really bad.
It catches them when they go on a bender.
And that's what happened with me.
I was drinking until 3.30 in the morning.
I think when...
Drinking, first of all, is absolutely terrible for your body and terrible for your immune system.
And if you're drinking, like, I was drinking these five super sweet, super potent margaritas.
We were hammered.
Actually, I came from a show, too.
So I did a show that night.
I probably had a couple of drinks at the show.
So it's like you're not in a good place to fight off anything like that.
You're exhausted and drunk.
I've been sick that way many times.
The times in my past when I've caught a cold or caught the flu, it's almost always when I'm run down.
Almost always.
So I don't know, maybe Michael Yeo was really run down when he got it.
I know a guy who got COVID really bad because him and his buddies were drinking.
They were drinking and they were partying and he was really fucked up and then the next day COVID hit him bad.
But he was weak.
His body was weakened by a bender.
They were drunk all night and then in the morning he started feeling like shit and then it caught him bad.
bobby lee
Yeah, but when I got out, it was really bad.
But I lived through it, and it was fine.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
There's a lot of different things that were at play there.
First of all, there was just general metabolic health that was completely ignored.
People told you, all you have to do is get vaccinated.
That's horseshit.
Your immune system is complex, and it relies on a bunch of different things to keep it effective.
It relies on good nutrition.
It relies on sleep.
It relies on low stress.
It relies on vitamins and nutrients.
Healthy diet.
Exercise.
All those things were huge factors, and they ignored every single one of them.
When you look at the number of people that died of COVID, something like 90-plus percent had four-plus comorbidities.
Four-plus.
Cancer, diabetes, heart attack risk.
Fill in the blank.
Four-plus.
Comorbidities.
90 plus percent of them.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's not that it's not bad.
Of course it's bad.
But you know what's worse?
You motherfuckers telling everybody what they have to do and not have to do.
You motherfuckers telling people they can shut their businesses down and they have to take this experimental medication regardless of whether or not they have natural immunity.
Dude, it was Gestapo shit.
unidentified
I'm with you, bud.
bobby lee
I'm with you.
joe rogan
It was fucking mind control.
It was totalitarian, authoritarian tactics.
They were limiting people's livelihood, limiting people's ability to travel, shaming people.
The fucking government released, during Omicron, which is nothing but a cold, they released this thing.
For the people who've been vaccinated, you did your job.
For those unvaccinated, you experience a winter, what is it, severe illness and death?
You're looking towards a winter of severe illness and death?
When Biden's on TV, our patience is wearing thin.
We've been patient, but our patience is wearing thin.
Hey, motherfucker, our patience is wearing thin with you.
You can't even form a goddamn sentence.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
You fucking zombie.
What are you talking about?
Your patience is wearing thin.
You're not even looking at data.
You're not talking about reality.
You're talking to the cult.
bobby lee
Can I ask you, why are they so reluctant to not give us a different option there?
joe rogan
Because it's control.
Because whenever there's anything that happens in the world, whether it's 9-11 and through 9-11 they passed the Patriot Act.
And there was a devastating blow to free speech and control and just your ability to have privacy.
The government had full reign to listen to all your phone calls, read all your emails, and they're doing it right now.
And the NSA is doing it right now.
They can listen to any time you make a phone call to someone.
It's all getting recorded.
bobby lee
Yeah, but when we complain, like, Biden's a little too old, maybe can we find a different option?
They're not even open to the idea of it.
It's just like, no, he's the guy.
joe rogan
He's not in control right now, right?
So if the people who are in control are in control right now, why would they want to swap out a new person?
unidentified
Deep state.
joe rogan
Well, for real.
unidentified
Is it deep state?
Listen.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
You could put whatever words you want, but if you don't think that these corporations that donate insane amounts of money to political campaigns have an influence on what happens in the world, you're naive.
That's a silly way to think of things.
Now, if you've got a guy who basically has no mind and he is your figurehead, if you can keep him alive for four years, you just run it the way you're running it right now.
bobby lee
Wow.
joe rogan
All you have to do is get that other guy arrested a ton of times.
Just keep arresting them.
Keep trumping up new charges.
Put him out there in the fucking news every day.
Terrible things he's done.
He's an authoritarian.
He's gonna lock all the gays up.
If you just say that enough, the people that are uninformed and aren't paying attention, they're going to listen.
And then if you have mail-in ballots and if you have a voter machine shenanigans, if you can fucking sway things one way or another, then you stay in power.
You stay in power.
Same person stays as the figurehead and the same people run it now.
bobby lee
Do you believe the election was stolen then?
joe rogan
No.
bobby lee
Okay.
joe rogan
I believe that there are, without a doubt, in every election, there's election fraud.
unidentified
Sure!
joe rogan
It's like, what's the number?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
So that's what I say.
I don't know what the number is.
I know Trump apparently released a whole bunch of documents showing irregularities, showing that the mail-in ballots were incorrect.
The mail-in ballots is something Putin talked about recently.
He said the 2020 elections were stolen and they used mail-in ballots.
But who knows why he's saying that.
bobby lee
But these things happen every cycle, right?
Every election these things happen.
There's irregularities.
joe rogan
Hillary claimed that she won.
I mean, John Kerry claimed that he won.
Al Gore claimed that he won.
Remember the dangling chads?
bobby lee
In Florida.
In Florida.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But the difference is that Al, though, went, okay, I'm going to concede.
joe rogan
Sort of.
Took a long time.
You know, the Al Gore, George Bush won.
How long did that go on before he conceded?
I want to say it was a few months.
I don't think it was as simple as just conceding.
bobby lee
Okay.
joe rogan
I think the Al Gore, George Bush one went on for quite a while, if I remember correctly, because I remember being confused, like, wow, this never happened before.
unidentified
A month or so.
joe rogan
A month.
bobby lee
A month or so, okay.
joe rogan
So think of that.
Think of like a whole month where they're trying to decide if it's true.
bobby lee
Right.
Right.
joe rogan
It's fucking weird.
And there was a documentary that HBO did back when Bush was president during these times.
Well, this was when it was okay to deny the election because it was a Republican that was in office.
And there was a documentary called Hacking Democracy.
And in that documentary, they were using – I think they were using Diebold machines.
And Diebold, they also make a lot of ATM machines.
They make various machines.
But what they had found in this documentary was that there was the ability to have a third-party input.
So first party input is you, you're the voter.
Second party is me, I collect the vote.
Third party input was also there.
And so they used that on the documentary to change the vote.
So they used it to change the numbers.
bobby lee
Wow.
joe rogan
And they showed that they can do it.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
I'll send you something, Jamie, I don't know if this is true, but someone said that someone had just done this recently.
Here, I'll send you this, because this is just something that someone tweeted.
I don't know if it's true, but I wanted to send it to Jamie so Jamie could research it.
But what this says...
Is that in federal court in Atlanta, Georgia, computer scientist and engineering professor J. Alex Halderman was able to hack a Dominion voting tabulator in front of U.S. District Judge Amy Totenberg using only a pen to change the vote totals.
bobby lee
That happened this time?
joe rogan
Supposedly.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
This is a tweet from just a couple of days ago.
bobby lee
Wow.
joe rogan
That was a tweet from, actually a tweet from, when was it?
Anyway, I don't know if that's true, but that's crazy if it is.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
This is actually from two days ago.
bobby lee
Wow.
joe rogan
This person tweeted this.
Now, we'll look, see if that's horseshit, but here's the thing.
When you have computers, If you have a phone, like with Pegasus, Pegasus was the first one that, by the way, the Israelis created Pegasus.
And Pegasus was a software that, that's what they used to get Jeff Bezos when they got his dick pics and all that shit.
bobby lee
Oh yeah, good ones, good ones, good ones.
joe rogan
When they did that with him, what they did was someone sent him a link in WhatsApp I think it was the head of Saudi Arabia, allegedly sent him a link in WhatsApp.
He clicked the link and then Pegasus was downloaded on his phone.
Now, you don't even have to click a link anymore.
Now, they can get Pegasus on your phone.
All they need is your phone number.
bobby lee
I could have Pegasus now?
joe rogan
They probably do.
You probably do.
bobby lee
You have it?
joe rogan
I'm sure.
bobby lee
Oh, no.
How do we detect it?
Is there an app?
joe rogan
I don't believe so.
bobby lee
Okay.
joe rogan
I think...
According to Gavin DeBecker, who's a securities expert, these things are constantly evolving and they get better all the time.
They don't tell you when they're better.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
They just have better technology.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
But he's aware of Pegasus, too.
And he said with Pegasus, too, all they need is your phone number.
bobby lee
Yeah.
unidentified
Hey!
bobby lee
But Joe, can I ask you something?
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
bobby lee
Can't you just shut it off and not...
I mean, there's so many people in this country who just walk around and they just don't...
All these things that we're talking about right now, they don't think about it.
They just live their lives.
Don't you think that that's a happier life or no?
joe rogan
Depends on whether or not...
Your voice actually matters.
So if you can change the way people think, and you can change the way people look at things, and then those people vote in such mass numbers that you can't make stealing the vote possible.
Because enough people realize it's horseshit to the point where the overwhelming majority...
You would have to have fraud that's so apparent that no one would buy into it.
It'd be a national scandal.
bobby lee
We need whistleblowers.
joe rogan
We have them.
We put them in jail.
Look at Edward Snowden.
He said he has to live in Russia now.
Look at Julian Assange.
She's fucked.
They've been prosecuting that guy forever.
And if you ask what the crime is, it's nothing.
He's a journalist.
bobby lee
I just feel so stressed out right now.
Why?!
It's stressing me out.
joe rogan
That's the reality that we live in.
We live in a very dangerous, complicated world.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Halderman, a University of Michigan computer scientist, changed results of a hypothetical referendum on Sunday alcohol sales.
He flipped the winner in a theoretical election between President George Washington and Benedict Arnold, the Revolutionary War general who defected to the British.
He rigged the machine to print out as many ballots as he wanted.
Wow.
All he needed was a pen to reach a button inside the touchscreen, a fake $10 voter card that he had programmed, or a $100 USB device that he plugged into a cord connected to a printer, rewriting the touchscreen's code.
Haldeman delivered his presentation during an election security trial evaluating whether Georgia's voting system is vulnerable to manipulation or programming errors.
All in-person voters in Georgia make their choices on touch screens that print out paper ballots.
I believe Georgia was supposed to update their machines, and then there was a talk of when they were going to do it.
And I think it's also taken into consideration, other than just corruption, it might also be a budget issue.
jamie vernon
The headline says, election officials say these vulnerabilities are merely speculative.
joe rogan
Oh, merely speculative.
It's safe and effective.
Our election is safe and effective.
These people dropping dead.
There's 40% increase in all-cause mortalities.
Ages 18 to 34. There's nothing to concern yourself with.
That's normal.
But it's merely speculative.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
These people all have your best interest in mind.
bobby lee
Is that a cigar?
joe rogan
These are little baby cigars.
bobby lee
Can I have one?
joe rogan
Yeah, sure.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
You're okay with nicotine cigars?
bobby lee
Yeah, I'm not gonna inhale it.
joe rogan
You want a real cigar?
A big one?
bobby lee
No, the little ones.
joe rogan
You want a real cigar?
unidentified
These are good.
bobby lee
I like them.
joe rogan
Yeah, why don't you have one of these?
bobby lee
Is it Cuban?
joe rogan
Yeah.
No, these are from Nicaragua.
These are JRE cigars.
unidentified
Oh, fuck.
joe rogan
They're actually really good.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Here, I'll open it for you.
This is what I think, man.
bobby lee
Okay.
joe rogan
I think evil's real.
And I think evil exists in many forms, and it exists in callous disregard for loss of life for profit.
That's evil, right?
And that's a real thing.
Like, you could say evil is the devil.
Here's a little lighter here, buddy.
You could say evil is Satan and evil is demons and evil is, you know, exorcisms and shit.
There you go.
Look at that, baby.
But also, evil is profit over human life, which is real.
Evil is cobalt mines in the Congo.
When you watch pregnant women mining for cobalt, getting toxic fumes in their lungs.
Some of them have babies on their back.
That's evil.
That's evil.
They're living in dirt floors with no sanitation.
It's horrific conditions and that is in everybody's cell phone.
In everyone's cell phone is the labor of essentially people so poor, they don't have to choose whether they're slaves or not.
There's no other option for them to work.
bobby lee
But there's a powerlessness that one feels like, what is little Bobby Lee gonna do about any of this?
So it's like, a lot of times I'm just like, you know, everything that you said, I'm with you, but I'm just saying that, like, it stresses me out.
joe rogan
It should.
bobby lee
Yeah, and I want to walk around a little bit more free, and, you know...
joe rogan
You deserve that.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're a comedian, man.
You provide laughter, and you help people, and if it's fucking you up...
Knowing about all this shit.
Yeah happening in the world that can get in the way of your job.
Yeah Yeah It's it's not an obligation to pay attention to everything.
Okay, but it is something that I think would help people break out of the cult Because that call it's like you think you're a good person if you buy hook line and sinker everything that the left says that's crazy These are the same people that want war.
These are the same people that are encouraging censorship.
These are the same people that are trying to silence dissent.
That's all totalitarian shit.
And just because it's done for trans kids or for Black Lives Matter or for any social...
Cause that you think is like undeniably worthy.
It's still the same thing at the end of the day.
The Patriot Act still controlled people in a way that was never allowed before.
And it did it under the guise that we have to stop a terrorist attack.
So even if they don't do evil shit to make these things happen, once these things happen, they take advantage by doing evil shit.
And they enact control over the people that they never had before.
And that's what they did during COVID. And the redistribution of wealth was insane.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
The redistribution of wealth to big corporations and companies.
bobby lee
Like Gates profited that big.
joe rogan
Oh my God, so many people did.
Billions of dollars was moved.
bobby lee
Yeah.
Wow, it just stresses me out.
You want to talk about the movie?
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
Can we talk about the movie I'm promoting?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
What's your movie, Bobby?
bobby lee
Oh, I'm barely in it.
And they're making me, you know what I mean?
But it's like...
joe rogan
But they're making you do promo and you're barely in it?
bobby lee
Well, I have four scenes.
joe rogan
What's it called?
bobby lee
It's called Drugstore June.
joe rogan
What's it about?
bobby lee
It's about a girl, Esther, right?
And she works at a pharmacy.
I play the main pharmacist.
And it's basically, she plays sort of like a Gen Z girl that's kind of out of touch.
It's kind of like a Juno, but it's more modern.
What I like about it, Joe, is this, okay?
Can I talk about Hollywood real quick?
unidentified
Sure.
bobby lee
There's still gatekeepers, right?
And for me, it's like...
I think I'm perceived as dangerous.
I don't know why.
Because I'm on a podcast, I say shit, right?
And it's like, I'm always the fourth option.
It goes, Ronnie, Jimmy, Ken Jeong, right?
And I like acting, right?
So it's like, I think this is cool because it's like, everyone that's involved in it are dear friends of mine.
You know what I mean?
Pretty much everyone in the movie are people like Miss Pat and people that I know.
joe rogan
Oh, cool.
bobby lee
And it's cool to like have...
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's watch the trailer.
bobby lee
Okay.
unidentified
If you were gonna give me a consultation for plastic surgery...
That's not what I do here.
But just if you were, what do you think you would do to my face?
I'd probably start with your mouth.
Like lip filler?
No, I would sew that sucker shut.
I'm a loser.
Your Facebook group is right.
I have no life.
What did you ever see in this psycho?
One, two.
Oh, I messed it up.
I need a coffee break.
bobby lee
You're not even clocked in yet.
unidentified
I haven't been getting paid for any of this.
Give me a double macchiato.
I brought you some hot chocolate.
You're interrupting my stream.
Okay.
Bye, June squad.
Well, thank you, Chad.
Ew!
I heard the pharmacy got robbed.
bobby lee
What the hell happened in here?
unidentified
What's your name?
At Forever June on everything except snap at June Forever.
Your real life actual name.
June.
June.
This is not Queen June's private castle.
June the Almighty.
Oh.
June?
Oh my god, the poor man that ends up with her.
I think I'm gonna start doing some investigatory work.
Y'all heard anything about Pharmacy and Rob?
I don't watch the news.
All I do is smoke.
Wait!
Do you feel safe here?
joe rogan
I'm gonna have to!
unidentified
I'm looking for information.
Hey, baby boo.
June Squad has a lot of time on their hands.
Take it easy.
I'll tell you what you want.
bobby lee
What are you doing here?
unidentified
I'm collecting evidence.
bobby lee
You watch too many movies.
unidentified
You are not a police officer.
joe rogan
Help us out here.
unidentified
God, mug shots are so sexy.
Can I take this home?
No.
Did you watch it?
bobby lee
No.
joe rogan
So that's the first time you've seen the clip?
bobby lee
Yeah.
Well, Abby.
You know Abby Levitt told my manager.
She saw it.
She was like, it's pretty good.
And when she said that, I was just like, oh, I don't want to watch it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But, you know, I've got to promote it.
joe rogan
I'm sure you're great in it.
I'm sure you're great in it.
bobby lee
You're hilarious.
But I want to say, though, that it's like, you know, it's our friends.
It's like, you know, you and your friends got together and we made a movie.
And I heard it's great and it's going to go into theaters.
There's all these things.
I'm going to see it.
I'm going to eventually see it.
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
I can't watch it myself.
Can I say something?
I've been to movies.
I get invited to premieres.
I leave.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't want to watch me.
This was pretty good.
bobby lee
Oh, that's me in Death and Roman.
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
I'm pretty good in this.
joe rogan
It's in a short that just came out on YouTube.
unidentified
It's like 15 minutes long.
bobby lee
Okay.
Yeah, but I'm okay in that.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So you want to get into acting.
You're enjoying it.
bobby lee
Can I ask you, you don't like it?
joe rogan
No, I don't like the process.
I love movies.
bobby lee
You're great in news radio.
joe rogan
Thank you very much.
bobby lee
Huge laughs.
joe rogan
It's fun.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Stand-up's more fun.
bobby lee
It is, but why can't you do all of it?
joe rogan
Because I don't want to deal with all those people.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That's why I did Fear Factor.
I didn't want to deal with actors anymore.
When Fear Factor came along, I was like, oh, this is perfect.
Not that there's anything wrong with that, and the cast on news radio were amazing.
Incredible.
It's just, you deal with a certain kind of person that is 60% insane.
60% of them are insane.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
40% of them are cool as fuck.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But it's just like, I don't...
They're not fun to joke around with.
They're shitty.
They backstab.
They undermine you.
They go to producers and try to rewrite your words and say it conflicts with my lines.
It's like weird ego shit goes on with them.
They're weird, man.
They're weird people.
bobby lee
They are weird, but the jobs I have now, like I did Reservation Dogs.
I did I'm on Sex and the City, the new one.
joe rogan
Oh, how's that?
bobby lee
It's...
I said no to it the first couple of times that you're like, you want to do it?
Because I just didn't think that it was the right fit.
I had never seen it.
I know it's this big cultural thing.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
But I just basically says, all I want to do is feel comfortable, dude.
I said that to MPK, that showrunner.
Because I don't want to go in there and feel like...
People are mean and I'm stressed out.
I don't need it.
And he comforted me.
He was like, no, we want you on the show.
And I would go to New York and everyone was super sweet.
I put myself in situations that aren't that.
I've had fucking directors call me a pan-faced gook.
joe rogan
What?
bobby lee
Yeah, I had a director call me that was.
joe rogan
Was he also?
bobby lee
No.
He was a white.
joe rogan
What?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
How long ago?
bobby lee
In the 90s.
unidentified
Wow.
bobby lee
I didn't want to call the director.
He's a big director.
joe rogan
Holy shit, dude.
bobby lee
And he called the other actress a whore.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
bobby lee
He's like, get on your mark, you pan-faced gook.
unidentified
Whoa.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
This is back, you know, when it wasn't woke.
joe rogan
Is he alive?
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is he doing movies still?
bobby lee
I want to so badly tell you who it is!
joe rogan
What's his name rhyme with?
bobby lee
No, I'm not playing this game!
I know the internet!
joe rogan
Will you tell me later?
bobby lee
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
Oh, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Well, they're going to go through your IMDB, and they're going to find some likely candidates.
Maybe we should do that.
bobby lee
Yeah.
Let the internet do it.
joe rogan
Maybe we can play Warmer.
Warmer?
bobby lee
Yeah.
unidentified
Warmer?
bobby lee
No, no, no, no.
One time this director, I worked for this director.
joe rogan
Is he Italian?
bobby lee
No, I'm not playing this game.
Fuck you.
unidentified
Okay.
bobby lee
One time, I fucked up on a line, and he made the whole, everyone, like the cameraman, everyone, and the wardrobe form a circle.
They put me in the middle of the circle, and he goes, point your finger.
And they all pointed their finger at me, and he goes, repeat after me.
You're the worst actor on planet Earth.
And they all did that, and tears welled up in my eyes.
And I remember a wardrobe lady looked at me, and she goes, I'm so sorry.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
bobby lee
Yeah.
I mean, I've had Michael Bay do something to me.
joe rogan
What did Michael Bay do to you?
bobby lee
He grabbed my face aggressively.
unidentified
Whoa.
joe rogan
Why?
What'd you do to him?
Did you grab his balls?
Did you wake up with you sucking on his balls?
bobby lee
I don't do that.
I do that for comics.
joe rogan
Okay, okay.
bobby lee
Yeah, I don't do it when I'm like on a...
No, I did this...
So I booked this commercial with Eric Stonestreet.
Right.
You know Eric?
He's on Modern Family.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
He plays the fat gay guy in it.
joe rogan
Sure, sure.
bobby lee
So we played Tower Boys with Kim Cattrall.
It was a Pepsi commercial, I think.
And she was in this bathtub.
And I'd never acted before.
You know, Joe, I'm a stand...
I come from the same place you come, which is open mics and...
joe rogan
Stand up.
bobby lee
Yeah, I didn't learn how to act.
I don't know the fuck that...
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
I didn't know what a jib camera is or a mark or any of that shit, right?
unidentified
Right, right.
bobby lee
So I had this scene where I had to bring these...
unidentified
Oh, fuck.
bobby lee
I had to bring these towels into a...
You know, it was like stacked.
That was a joke.
And he would go, your face needs to be in the light.
And I go, oh, I don't know.
So I try to tilt every take.
The light!
The light!
Right?
And then, like, by the eighth one, he came from behind the thing, and he grabbed my face like this.
joe rogan
He goes, here!
bobby lee
Here!
And, like, tears.
Well, no, don't feel bad for me.
I'm a survivor.
joe rogan
That's your holocaust.
That was your Auschwitz, being in a movie, and Michael Bay tells you to put your face towards the light.
bobby lee
Yeah, but in the 90s, I experienced that shit, right?
joe rogan
Well, that seems like you really weren't putting your face towards the light, and he was freaking out, because they could only do that take so many times.
I'm kind of on Team Bay on that one.
bobby lee
You are, really?
joe rogan
Yeah, he just turned your face.
bobby lee
Oh, you're right.
joe rogan
You're making it sound like you- You're right, you're right.
unidentified
Mouth-fucked you.
bobby lee
You're right, you're right, you're right.
joe rogan
Beat your ass in front of everybody.
bobby lee
You're right, you're absolutely right.
But- But?
Also, when you- When you come from a background like me, with your dad fucking acting crazy, when people scream, you feel it.
joe rogan
You got triggered.
bobby lee
Robocop, what's his name?
The original Robocop?
unidentified
Peter...
bobby lee
Peter Weir.
He's a screamer.
Screams.
Screamed at you?
Yeah, I was on Magnum.
He does it to everyone.
Right?
Oh yeah, back in the day we wouldn't have sides!
You can't remember one line?
He would yell shit like that, right?
And every time he would do it, I would tense up.
I'm not a pussy, dude.
joe rogan
I get it.
bobby lee
I'm a warrior, okay?
unidentified
Wow.
bobby lee
Yeah.
And then, right, I just went to the showrunner.
I go, next time I'm on the showrunner, maybe not him.
So they just didn't, you know?
But anyway, now I do shit that's like where I feel like I'm wanted.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
And I'll do it.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
So it's not like that crazy bullshit where I need...
Back then I needed it.
joe rogan
Right.
When someone would say something horrible to you, you just had to swallow it.
bobby lee
You would absorb it.
joe rogan
But there was also no recourse back then.
I mean, that's how you get to like a Harvey Weinstein.
A guy who has ultimate control, can do whatever the fuck he wants, and does.
Ruins people's lives and careers if they don't accept his advances.
That whole business has always been about powerful people abusing the people that had to listen to them.
From casting directors, all the way up to producers.
bobby lee
It was different then, yeah.
joe rogan
Look, Tarantino was in here and he was talking about this old-school director who had, his office had a bedroom where he'd take the starlets, all the starlets had to fuck him.
bobby lee
Oh my god.
joe rogan
He had a bedroom in his fucking office.
bobby lee
Oh my god.
joe rogan
So everyone just assumed if a casting, you know, thing was going on and a girl came into his office, he fucked her.
bobby lee
And 20 years ago, I would have done it, I think.
joe rogan
You think so?
bobby lee
I think that if...
I think that it was a huge director, right?
joe rogan
You wouldn't fuck him?
bobby lee
No, I would suck his dick, maybe.
joe rogan
Really?
bobby lee
I think I wouldn't tell you.
joe rogan
Well, there's definitely...
bobby lee
I would just cry.
joe rogan
You could have filled with some offers if that was out there.
bobby lee
What?
joe rogan
You could have gotten some offers if that was out there.
Maybe you weren't open enough with your desire to make it.
bobby lee
I just think that back then, I was so like...
I had no money.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
And in my mind, I'd be like...
Oh, this is the way it's supposed to happen.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, imagine if you're an actress, right, and you come out to Hollywood from fucking Kansas, you're 20 years old, and you are all of a sudden in this producer's office, and he's 50, and he's been banging stars for 20 fucking years, and you don't know how it all works, and he explains to you, listen, honey, this is how it works in this business.
You're like, well, I mean, okay.
Do you want to be an actress?
And you're kind of mentally ill anyway.
bobby lee
Oh, right.
joe rogan
And you're like, yeah, I do so much.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, no one has to know about this.
Oh, okay, you won't tell anybody.
bobby lee
It's terrible.
It's fucking terrible.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And that's probably what they did forever.
bobby lee
It's so fucking terrible.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
And I know we have problems with the word woke, but I think in many ways, Hollywood wokeness is also good.
joe rogan
Yeah, that way.
In a stopping the abuse way.
But the problem is, there's like, in Hollywood in particular, there was an overcorrection and crazy people like Amber Heard got involved.
bobby lee
Right.
joe rogan
Manipulating the truth to sort of gain sympathy.
You've got a lot of those cases too.
The Chris Hardwick case.
There's a lot of those where the reality is so different than the truth.
bobby lee
Right.
joe rogan
And everybody just assumes that the woman's not insane and that she's telling the truth.
See you but you're gonna have to have a few of those if you're gonna have to have real change like a real Correction of actual abuse you're going to it's just like if you're gonna like accept trans people You're going to have a bunch of instances of perverts pretending to be trans if you're going to say hey We have to stop abuse you're gonna get fake abuse you're gonna get people to come out I know man, and that's the way Hollywood is like human bad.
bobby lee
It's the way humans are and But in the sense of a show like Beef getting greenlit, which is mostly all Korean or Asian cast, I think in that way it's good, right?
But there is an overcorrection in terms of like...
joe rogan
It's good because that show's good, right?
That's why it's good.
bobby lee
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
It's good when the show's good.
bobby lee
Even if the show was good back then, 20 years ago, they would never...
joe rogan
That's true.
bobby lee
Yeah, they would never wrote it.
joe rogan
That's better about acceptance.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But it's still...
I think art has to be—particularly stand-up is the best example I can speak about that—has to be a meritocracy.
It has to be what is actually funny.
At the Mothership, we have a fucking very clear mandate.
No one gives a fuck if you are gay, if you are straight, if you are trans, if you are black, if you are Asian, if you're white.
They don't give a fuck.
Are you funny?
That's all it is.
Are you funny?
And that's our goal.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
The goal is, and that's what comedy used to be.
I had this conversation with Ali Wong once, and she was like, do you think comedy is a meritocracy?
I was like, ultimately it has to be.
Because at the end of the day, what's funny is what people are going to come see again.
And you could pander, and you can get away...
You can kind of like be half-assed and be treated like you're better than you are.
You see that all the time when they make those lists of the best stand-up specials of the year and some of them are like, what the fuck are you saying?
You're so crazy if you think this is good.
And they're only saying it because it's the right demographic.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you can say that if they're talking about the right points.
Even if the stand-up is clunky and awful and Unoriginal and just garbage.
They'll tell you it's amazing.
bobby lee
And I don't want to kiss your ass.
May I for a second though?
Just accept it.
joe rogan
Okay.
bobby lee
Alright.
I feel like...
Here we go.
I love it.
Just hear me out, okay?
joe rogan
Okay, I'm gonna hear you out.
bobby lee
I just feel like, you know, in a way...
You carved the way, for me specifically, because before I did Tiger Belly and Bad Friends, I mean, Joe, I'll be honest with you.
I mean, I would do half rooms.
You know what I mean?
Even though the eight years of Mad TV and all the things I had done, right?
And I couldn't get an audience.
And now, I mean, it's just like, it's night and day.
I mean, the path that you laid down.
And even back then, when we used to do it at the Ice House, and it used to pop in back in the day, right?
It's sort of like, I think it just kind of like subconsciously absorbed it, and it became a path for me, and it changed my life.
That's beautiful to hear.
What?
joe rogan
That's beautiful to hear.
bobby lee
And when I go on the road now, it's like I get people that are like really...
joe rogan
They're fans.
bobby lee
They know me, they love me, and I love them as well, you know?
And it's a different fucking deal, dude.
joe rogan
You are a creature of the internet.
bobby lee
I am!
joe rogan
Yeah, and you should be.
And the internet changed the game.
The internet also made it, instead of a famine thing, people had an abundance mentality.
Because when we first started in the 90s, there was only a few shows you could get on.
You got on MADtv.
I got on news radio.
There's only a few shows.
And you were really lucky if you were on a show.
I remember we would talk about it all the time.
Oh my God, I'm so lucky.
bobby lee
Miracle.
joe rogan
Crazy.
We're on TV. Oh my God, we're so lucky.
But...
There was other people that didn't get your spot, and they hated it, and they were mad at you.
Like, if you cast for Mad TV and other comics at the club, you know, I know you experienced that.
bobby lee
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And they were fucking jealous and bitter, and they would talk shit about you.
He fucking sucks on that show.
He doesn't do anything.
And they're just angry that it didn't happen to them.
Because it could have happened to them.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Now, instead of that, now we're valuable to each other.
Because now we're a community of podcasters and comedians.
And instead of us being like in competition with each other, we all feed off of each other and we all support each other.
It's a much better environment for stand-up.
It's a much better environment for comedy clubs.
It's like everything's better now.
bobby lee
It's also the connection with East Coast, too.
It's like before, I felt like there was a rivalry almost, right?
And now it's like, when I go to New York, and as soon as I land, I don't even call.
The seller will call me and go, what spots do you want?
And then all the comments will come by the pod.
It's like a family.
joe rogan
It's fun.
bobby lee
It's fucking amazing.
joe rogan
Yeah, that happened during the podcast revolution.
That's what changed everything.
bobby lee
You think it's going down now?
joe rogan
Going down?
bobby lee
The podcast revolution.
It's happening.
Are we in downswing or upswing?
joe rogan
No, it's not a downswing at all.
If you pay attention to the numbers, more people are listening now than ever.
All the podcasts.
It's awesome.
And it's awesome because you get to see people for who they really are.
No bullshit, no filter, no nonsense.
You can't nonsense people for three hours.
At a certain point in time, your fucking demons will show their ugly face.
It's really who you are.
It also shapes who you are because you get to experience feedback and examine how you think about things and why you say the things you say.
In the early days, how much of what we used to say was just for shock value.
You would go on a morning radio show.
I did.
Yeah, I know.
We would try to say as shocking things as we could because that was the way to get attention.
Especially like Opie and Anthony.
I know.
We don't have to talk about it.
bobby lee
No, I could vaguely go around it.
I'm just like, at the time...
joe rogan
We all did it.
bobby lee
Yeah, I was a survivor.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
And I'm like, oh, this is the culture.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is the culture.
bobby lee
And also, I'm like an LA comic.
I'm an Opie and Anthony with beasts.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
bobby lee
Patrice, Norton, all those guys were fucking beasts.
And it's like, you know, and then, you know, at the time, you know, and then later and then now, you know, but it's like...
joe rogan
But now it's a much more honest thing.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because now you do your own thing, right?
And if people want to see Bobby, they know how to find Bobby.
And they seek you out.
So it's not like some random person's tuning in, like, who's this guy?
And then you have to say something crazy to get attention.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
Now it's just you could be yourself.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the difference.
If you got a million views on Tiger Belly, that's a million people that really want to watch your show.
That's not random.
If you got a million people that are on some Comedy Central show, a million people watching that, they're flipping channels.
How many of them are looking forward to it?
How many of them just stumbled upon it?
It's probably quite a bit.
Most shows don't have loyal, dedicated viewers.
Unless they're streaming shows.
If you're watching Stranger Things, that's what you want to watch.
But there's a lot of things that are just not that popular, and the numbers are still not as good.
The podcast thing is a wild thing.
bobby lee
I drive down the street in LA, and I see a show.
I'm like, who the fucker?
joe rogan
Who's on that?
bobby lee
No one's gonna watch that!
joe rogan
I mean, maybe.
bobby lee
Maybe it's good.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, I like that they're still doing them.
I don't want them to go away.
They tried to kill that, man.
This fucking Last Strike.
Dude, I had so many friends that stopped doing stand-up and had just been writing that went into a panic because they had mortgages and they just started...
Camille started doing stand-up again, right?
bobby lee
Wow.
It was hard.
joe rogan
He hadn't done stand-up in seven years.
bobby lee
Wow.
joe rogan
And I know Owen Smith was getting back on the road again.
We had him at the mothership.
But he's a guy that I was always saying, like, that guy, that's a velvet prison for that guy.
He's too good.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's too good at stand-up to not be huge.
bobby lee
Yeah.
I love him.
joe rogan
He's one of the best comics in the country.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's like top 20 in the country without a doubt.
No question at all.
bobby lee
Owen Smith.
joe rogan
Yeah.
If I'm making a list of top 20 in the country, Owen Smith's on that list.
bobby lee
He shouldn't wear sweatpants on stage, though.
joe rogan
Who gives a fuck?
Let him wear sweatpants.
He's got a big ass dick.
bobby lee
He's a big dick.
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
He's funny, man.
bobby lee
He's so funny, that guy.
joe rogan
He's so good.
unidentified
Big dick, too.
bobby lee
That's a good thing.
joe rogan
He was in town just a couple weeks ago.
We all sat in the balcony and watched his set.
He did my show, and then he did my show on Thursday, and then he did the weekend he headlined.
They said it was awesome.
bobby lee
I just always wanted to tell your fans, I have a pretty medium-sized dick.
joe rogan
It's regular.
bobby lee
Thank you.
joe rogan
I've seen it in a gang of times.
bobby lee
I know!
Online, they're like, it's like a minion.
No, no, no.
joe rogan
It's normal.
It's a regular.
bobby lee
It works.
It's great.
joe rogan
Squirts.
bobby lee
The whole thing.
unidentified
There's nothing wrong with it.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Thank you so much.
joe rogan
Every other day, it squirts.
bobby lee
Yeah, everything is.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
bobby lee
It works.
It's great.
Yeah, yeah.
unidentified
It's fine.
bobby lee
I got that out there, you know what I mean?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
People are rude.
Judging you by something you can't control.
bobby lee
Yeah, but it's been a real blessing, man.
It really has.
joe rogan
The podcast thing is a blessing for all of us, obviously.
Yeah.
And it changed stand-up.
It really did.
It created way more theater acts.
There's so many more theater acts and arena acts.
Guys like Schultz and all these guys, and they're just releasing their stuff on the internet, doing podcasts, becoming popular through podcasts.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's an amazing way to live.
bobby lee
I was in Hawaii, Sigur was in town, I was just there vacationing, and Sigur goes, I'm doing a show, do it.
So they didn't announce me.
joe rogan
Oh, that's great.
bobby lee
It was like 6,000 seats or whatever, right?
It's not a bragging thing, but when they said my name, and I walked up there, I had never felt that before in my life.
joe rogan
It was a pure love.
How many days are you in town for?
bobby lee
I leave tomorrow morning.
unidentified
Shit.
bobby lee
I know.
joe rogan
Change your flight.
Do my show tomorrow night at 7. Really?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
bobby lee
Okay.
Beautiful.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I'll change.
Bert's going to do it, too.
bobby lee
Oh, he is?
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
He's in town?
joe rogan
Crash is in town.
bobby lee
Oh, I'll do it.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
bobby lee
It'll be fun.
unidentified
It'll be fun.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
They're going to go bananas.
bobby lee
Okay, good.
That'll be great.
joe rogan
The beautiful thing about those shows, Shane will be on the show, too.
bobby lee
Oh.
joe rogan
It's going to be awesome.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
I'll have you go before.
bobby lee
Hard hitters, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
Dude, here's the thing, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
And this is what's great about it.
I'm not afraid.
joe rogan
No, you shouldn't be afraid.
bobby lee
I'll follow you.
It would be hard.
Very difficult.
joe rogan
You don't have to do that.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I would try.
I wouldn't be afraid of doing it.
joe rogan
Listen, the show's going to be amazing.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's going to be amazing.
Hinchcliffe's on the show.
It's going to be amazing.
Brian Simpson's here.
bobby lee
I love him.
joe rogan
Oh, he's the best.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He's so good, dude.
bobby lee
It was good to see also old friends last night.
It was great.
Yeah.
Like, I miss them.
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
We took all the good people.
You fucked us.
I didn't.
I made life better for these folks.
It's a better place to be, man.
It really is.
It's a better place to live.
There's less traffic.
bobby lee
And so many people last night after the show were like, move here.
joe rogan
When are you moving here?
bobby lee
And I'm like, I'm going to talk to Andrew about it.
joe rogan
You should.
bobby lee
But we have to move together.
joe rogan
Yeah, but look.
bobby lee
Or we could have a house that we come every once in a while.
joe rogan
You should.
bobby lee
You should.
joe rogan
Look, Santino would love it here.
bobby lee
I know he would.
joe rogan
He would love it here.
He likes doing TV shows too, though, that fucking idiot.
bobby lee
I know, but it's a different craft.
I'll tell you something.
joe rogan
He always wanted to be an actor.
bobby lee
No, but guys like Schultz and these young guys, right?
It's not a part of their dream.
joe rogan
Right.
bobby lee
But when I came to LA, I was like, I want to do movies.
I love movies.
joe rogan
I get it.
bobby lee
I love watching it.
joe rogan
But here's the thing, Bobby.
You can always still do movies.
I still get offers for movies.
You can still do them.
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
No, I am doing them, yeah.
joe rogan
100% could go back and do them.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're a free man.
bobby lee
I know.
joe rogan
And you've got some cash.
bobby lee
I know, but comics make fun of me about it.
joe rogan
You should see Hinchcliffe's apartment.
Oh, my God.
Hinchcliffe has this fucking insane apartment.
bobby lee
I know.
joe rogan
With his giant balcony, which you can get here in Austin, would cost you $20 million in New York.
bobby lee
Wow.
joe rogan
Oh my god, it's incredible.
The life there is amazing.
The life in downtown Austin, there's so many great restaurants.
bobby lee
I know.
joe rogan
People are cool as fuck.
bobby lee
Tonight we're to the pasta bar.
It's gonna be great.
joe rogan
Oh, that place is great.
bobby lee
Great, yeah.
joe rogan
Dude, it's incredible here.
bobby lee
I know it is, dude.
joe rogan
And there's so much live music here.
I mean, Gary Clark Jr. has a club.
He has Antones.
He's one of the owners there.
He's there all the time.
bobby lee
Last night after the show, this tall blonde that would never talk to me in LA came up to me and gave me a side hug.
unidentified
Ooh, side hug.
bobby lee
And we connected eyeballs.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
And if I lived here, I think I could.
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
Right?
And I'm like, that also is an incentive.
joe rogan
Yeah.
bobby lee
You know what I mean?
Because I'm single.
unidentified
Texas girls.
bobby lee
I love Texas girls.
joe rogan
They're so nice.
bobby lee
I know.
joe rogan
They're so womanly.
bobby lee
I love Win Win Lee, Win Win Lee.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what I like.
bobby lee
Yeah, I love it too.
Anyway, really good to be here.
joe rogan
Great to have you.
You can bail if you want.
bobby lee
You're going to keep going?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Keep going.
bobby lee
Why?
joe rogan
We can stop.
It doesn't matter.
bobby lee
It doesn't?
joe rogan
No, we're talking.
bobby lee
Two and a half hours.
joe rogan
That's good enough.
bobby lee
That's huge.
joe rogan
That's plenty.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But if I leave, you're going to keep going?
joe rogan
No, no.
bobby lee
All right.
Let's just stop now.
So the next time I have all the things I want to talk about.
joe rogan
Perfect.
unidentified
All right.
Perfect, Bobby.
bobby lee
Thanks for having me on.
joe rogan
Beautiful podcast.
bobby lee
So great.
joe rogan
It was beautiful.
bobby lee
Thank you so much for having me.
joe rogan
My pleasure, brother.
bobby lee
Watch Drunk Store June.
joe rogan
So now that we cracked our ice and we did this, we'll do them more often, right?
bobby lee
Yeah, 100%.
joe rogan
100%.
And please, consider moving here, man.
bobby lee
It's a thing.
joe rogan
Like I said, Theo's considerate, Pauly's considerate.
Pauly Shore is a different human being now.
bobby lee
I know.
joe rogan
Pauly Shore is so loose and so friendly and so silly on stage.
bobby lee
Oh, I love him.
joe rogan
And he's killing.
bobby lee
Killing.
I love him.
joe rogan
He went up in the little boy, the little room, and I hadn't seen him in years.
And I go, dude, that was so funny.
You were so loose.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
And he was like, at the comedy store, I was always tense.
bobby lee
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like, it's hard for me to be free.
He's a different person.
bobby lee
Also, I wouldn't be in this business without him.
And that family.
joe rogan
Oh, her.
I mean, that's why she's here.
bobby lee
She said two things to me as a young comic.
Okay.
It's a sin to support mediocrity.
Right?
I still don't know what it means, but I still have it in my heart.
unidentified
Yeah.
bobby lee
One day I was at Bully's restaurant in La Jolla with her.
When Freddy Soda used to drive her down, he would go, come eat with us.
I miss Freddy so much.
unidentified
I do too.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
And so one day we were sitting there at Bully's restaurant in La Jolla and she goes, do you know what makes a star?
I go, what?
She goes, 50% of the people have to love you, but it's okay that the other half hates you.
It's all in the same.
Right?
And it's like, when I read bad comments now, you know, because I get some because I've risen, right?
I just take that into the thing that it's like, it's a tension, right?
It's not personal.
joe rogan
You know what I would tell you to do?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
Don't read them.
bobby lee
Yeah, I haven't.
joe rogan
Don't read anything.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
bobby lee
So you don't read?
joe rogan
No, no, no.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I don't read articles about me.
I don't read shit.
bobby lee
But if you read it, would it hurt your feelings?
joe rogan
It could.
Yeah, it could.
bobby lee
Okay.
joe rogan
It could bother you.
bobby lee
All right.
joe rogan
You're a human being.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Someone says something, especially if it's not true, and it's influencing people in a fucked up way, or it paints the least charitable version of you.
bobby lee
People also don't realize that I'm a sensitive guy.
joe rogan
We're all sensitive.
They're sensitive, too.
That's why they're lashing out.
The reason why they're writing mean shit is because they know what hurts them.
A kind person, a happy person, wouldn't be writing shitty things about you.
They're doing it because they're...
It's that old expression, hurt people hurt people.
bobby lee
But when they make shit up...
Dude, the other day I read...
I'm sorry.
I read this.
This is what I read.
I heard Bobby Lee abuses his animals.
joe rogan
Because they want to hurt your feelings.
They want you to get angry.
bobby lee
I get my cats Nobu.
joe rogan
I believe you.
bobby lee
Shashimi, dude.
Yeah.
I get them the best.
I go, what's the most expensive shit?
The healthiest shit.
joe rogan
But should they have all those oils and stuff on?
bobby lee
It's not every day.
Every other month.
joe rogan
Isn't it weird that cats hate water, but they love fish?
It's kind of crazy, right?
bobby lee
It's crazy, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's weird.
They love fish.
bobby lee
They love fish.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
They don't want to go nowhere near that fucking water.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Anyway, I don't abuse my animals.
I love animals more.
unidentified
Of course you don't.
bobby lee
Yeah, I know.
But it's like insane.
joe rogan
Of course you don't.
Of course you don't.
bobby lee
Yeah, yeah.
So I don't read it.
joe rogan
Yeah, just don't read it because even if you read a hundred things that are awesome, one that sucks is going to stick in your head because that's how a human mind is designed.
It's designed to find danger in conflict and look out for it because it could hurt you.
And so when you see that one thing, that's the thing you're gonna concentrate on.
It's the one person that hates you.
Why do they hate me?
Oh my god, what if they're near me?
That feeling of hate is the same feeling that you would get if there's someone that's dangerous.
It's from another tribe that's looking at you over the hill and you think they might want to kill you.
Like, ah, fuck!
And you have to think about them.
You don't think about your friends that love you.
You think about the danger.
And that's natural.
It's a natural inclination of the human mind.
bobby lee
Right.
joe rogan
So you do that with social media, too.
bobby lee
You don't seek out the danger then?
joe rogan
No, don't do it and don't spread it either.
The people that spread it, you don't realize what you're doing, but you're also affecting yourself.
Because you know that what you're doing, unless it's like the person you're going after, some legitimate Nazi or something.
I mean like most of the time when people are attacking, they're attacking someone to try to hurt them because they know that they can be hurt too.
A lot of the people that are doing this shit on social media all day long, we know them.
They're mentally ill people.
I don't need to name any names, but I can't.
But there's some of our severely mentally ill people that are just liars, they're insane, they're full of shit, they're on medication and in therapy, and they're just lashing out at other people's behavior.
And it's like they don't realize that To be a good person also means to be nice to everybody.
Just because someone has a differing view on something, you can't demonize them and turn them into a non-human.
But people do that because they're terrified of that happening to them.
bobby lee
Yeah.
And I also don't...
When people try to do things like that, I'm not mad at them either.
I don't have thoughts of revenge.
You know what I mean?
I just feel bummed that they feel that way or whatever.
You know what I mean?
But I have no...
I have love for people.
joe rogan
I know you do.
bobby lee
Yeah, I do.
joe rogan
I have love for you, Bobby.
bobby lee
Anyway, thank you.
joe rogan
Bye, everybody.
bobby lee
Bye.
unidentified
Bye.
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