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Dec. 12, 2023 - The Joe Rogan Experience
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Joe Rogan Experience #2074 - Shane Gillis
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shane gillis
Hey!
unidentified
We're happy Rogan.
shane gillis
Yes.
joe rogan
What's happening?
Bro, how fun are these workouts?
Changes your day, right?
shane gillis
Yeah, it makes the day better.
I literally don't know how you do this.
joe rogan
What do you mean?
shane gillis
You're like, oh, you're going to feel so good.
Dude, I get to the club.
I'm literally falling asleep.
I'm sore.
joe rogan
You got to start taking vitamins.
shane gillis
I take some vitamins.
joe rogan
Do you?
What are you taking?
shane gillis
Take vitamin B. Yeah?
unidentified
Okay.
shane gillis
D. Okay.
Pause it.
C. Okay.
Take some zinc.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
shane gillis
That's it.
joe rogan
What, are you getting like a multivitamin?
shane gillis
Yeah, whatever the fucking CVS things is.
unidentified
Oh, okay.
shane gillis
Those yellow, you know what I'm talking about?
joe rogan
It's probably been on the shelf since the 70s.
shane gillis
Fuck it.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
I don't think they're doing anything.
I heard zinc makes you cum harder.
I haven't noticed a big result, but...
joe rogan
Zinc is difficult to get into your bloodstream.
You need an ionophore.
If you're going to take zinc, you need something like quercetin.
shane gillis
Fuck, I knew I needed an ionophore.
joe rogan
Yeah, ionophore is super important.
shane gillis
What's that?
joe rogan
Something that allows...
I don't want to fuck this up, but I think it allows ions to get into your bloodstream easier.
It just allows things like zinc to get into your cells easier.
shane gillis
I'm not...
Yeah, I'm not close to worrying about shit like that.
I'm working on, like, bread.
joe rogan
Bread stuff, dude.
shane gillis
I'll worry about ionophores in a couple years.
joe rogan
Bread's tough.
Boy, when you're sitting at a restaurant and they bring out the bread with the butter, ooh, it smells good.
shane gillis
It's hard.
I mean, this weekend I ate at Denny's and Waffle House.
unidentified
Ooh.
shane gillis
Both were pretty good.
joe rogan
Bro, at 2 o'clock in the morning, a waffle with some sausages, it's hard to beat.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know what I used to love in LA? Roscoe's.
Chicken and waffles.
God damn it's good.
shane gillis
It's the best.
joe rogan
With collard greens.
shane gillis
I don't know about that.
Do you like collard greens?
joe rogan
Fucking love them.
Yeah.
Especially when you're- It's the combination of flavors.
The chicken, the waffles, the syrup with the butter.
The syrup and the butter.
Too much syrup and too much butter.
Just let's fucking go.
Let's go.
We're eating it like...
As you're eating it, you're like...
unidentified
God, I used to love Roscoe's.
shane gillis
Yeah, I just ate a waffle, like I said.
Yeah.
Two days ago, I was eating a waffle.
Waffles are good.
It's pretty wonderful.
joe rogan
Waffles are good.
Waffles with butter and syrup are pretty fucking good.
It sucks that they're bad.
shane gillis
It's a crazy way to start the day.
joe rogan
I did find some protein waffles.
What are they called?
Is it Viking waffles?
See if you find that.
I think there's a company called Viking Waffles.
They made like protein waffles that are like low carb.
And then I would use butter and then sugar-free syrup.
It's pretty fucking close.
That's it.
Viking Waffles.
21 grams of protein, 3 grams of sugar, 5 grams of carbs.
200 calories.
Look at that.
And they're good.
They fucking taste like a real waffle.
shane gillis
People love Vikings.
joe rogan
Who doesn't love Vikings?
shane gillis
Fucking Irish people.
joe rogan
The people that were on the shore.
shane gillis
People that got raped for 500 years.
joe rogan
Bro, they fucked everybody up forever.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
They're the reason why the people in Iceland are so good at strongman competitions.
You know, those guys like the mountain from Game of Thrones?
shane gillis
Yeah, they're freaks.
joe rogan
Where do you think those genes come from?
shane gillis
Yeah, they need an eruption up there.
We need to get rid of these guys.
A little bit of a volcano.
We can't have these guys.
This is my Irish ancestry coming through.
We gotta get rid of these fuckers.
unidentified
Yeah, they fucked the world up for so long.
joe rogan
That show Vikings, you ever watch that show?
shane gillis
No, I heard it's great.
joe rogan
Fucking great.
shane gillis
I was afraid it was gonna be like...
Because they did, like, women?
joe rogan
Oh, they kill everybody.
shane gillis
Alright, good.
No, no, I mean like the badass, kick-ass woman characters?
Do they have that?
joe rogan
They have a couple.
shane gillis
That usually takes me out of a...
joe rogan
No, no, they're realistic.
shane gillis
Okay.
joe rogan
I mean, they're not, like, fucking up all the dudes or anything like that.
shane gillis
Ah, the old Conor McGregor woman.
I don't love it.
joe rogan
They announce a sequel?
Is the girl in the...
Oh, it's Netflix.
shane gillis
And the armor, the armor takes me out of it.
Why?
It's a little too Game of Thrones, you know?
Show what a real Viking looked like.
joe rogan
What did they really look like?
shane gillis
They looked like shit, dude.
They were like five, six...
They were not these giant...
joe rogan
Well, how the fuck does the mountain come from?
Where does he come from then?
I think they were wearing like felt shirts.
shane gillis
They looked like fucking dickheads.
Look at them.
They look like hobbits, dude.
joe rogan
What is that?
That's not real.
shane gillis
I mean, that's not them.
joe rogan
That's not real.
shane gillis
That's a Ren fan.
Look at that fucking kid.
joe rogan
Those are cosplaying.
Those people are cosplaying people.
Oh, jeez.
Don't do that.
Don't zoom in on his eyes.
That's not fair to that little fella.
That's what they're supposed to look like?
shane gillis
No, they've been glorified because they were...
joe rogan
Do we have an accurate depiction of what they actually look like?
Click on that.
What real Vikings wore?
Click on that.
What real Vikings wore?
See it?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
So click on that.
We'll see.
unidentified
According to archaeologists.
joe rogan
According to archaeologists.
I used to love archaeologists.
shane gillis
Popular culture gets it wrong.
joe rogan
Tell I met Graham Hancock.
All right.
It says the appearance of these infamous travelers, warriors, and mostly farmers.
Interesting.
So what do they look like?
jamie vernon
There's not going to be a picture.
It's just going to explain it.
It's going to be a lot of words.
Yeah.
Words.
joe rogan
But what does it say?
It says varieties and form, material, and styles are used to mark both gender, rank, and local identity.
says Marianne Vedler, an archaeologist at the University of Oslo's Museum of Cultural History, who has studied Viking textiles.
TV shows and films could make use of this to tell better stories.
As for the male warrior caricature, historians doubt they actually wore cartoonish horned helmets in battle.
Oh, come on.
shane gillis
It's disappointing.
joe rogan
Those have peered in art from this era.
In fact, only one preserved Viking helmet has materialized in Scandinavia and it was horn-free.
Only one?
They only found one Viking helmet?
Archaeologists found portions of Viking helmets in Denmark, but their popularity remains unknown.
Similarly, we know of one intact suit of chainmail which appeared with the sole surviving helmet.
One fucking suit of chainmail and one helmet.
This was likely worn exclusively by elites and professional warriors despite its common appearance in mainstream depictions.
They rocked a reverse mullet.
Hmm.
What's a reverse mullet?
shane gillis
Long up front?
Party up front?
joe rogan
What does that mean?
What's a reverse mullet?
How's that look?
shane gillis
I guess.
joe rogan
What is a reverse mullet?
So reverse mullet means long on top and short in the back?
jamie vernon
Bad explanation here.
joe rogan
Okay.
So a fade?
unidentified
There you go.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's possibly tied to a knot in the back of the head.
The knot may have been decorated with colored tape, which is sprayed into the hair.
The woman also wore a bond.
So there's a lot of guessing.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you have one helmet and one piece of chain mail...
shane gillis
Yeah, that's all guessing.
joe rogan
You're doing a lot of guessing.
Isn't that wild, though?
They only got one helmet?
shane gillis
That's it.
That's a good look.
Alright, they got it in the show.
Nice.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
But yeah, they gave him like cool shit.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
That is pretty cool.
Viking hairstyles.
Did they really tattoo their faces up?
shane gillis
Obviously there's no way to tell.
joe rogan
How do they guess?
shane gillis
They just keep making them so cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, they make them real cool.
And they're a bunch of murderers and you like them.
shane gillis
Yeah, I don't cheer for them.
joe rogan
No?
shane gillis
No, I don't like the Vikings.
joe rogan
Because of your culture.
shane gillis
Because of my culture?
No, no.
I think they're overrated.
joe rogan
Really?
Yeah.
Overrated.
shane gillis
Everything about them is rumors.
They're like, oh, they discovered America first.
It's like, nah.
joe rogan
I think they did.
shane gillis
Dude, you gotta give Columbus his fucking due.
joe rogan
Columbus gets no, no due.
shane gillis
Everybody hates Columbus.
joe rogan
He's a cocksucker.
Bro, did you ever read that one...
shane gillis
He fucking did it, dude.
joe rogan
He didn't even.
He landed in the Bahamas.
Who cares?
shane gillis
That's crazy he did that.
joe rogan
Did you ever hear that one...
There was one priest that traveled with Columbus that wrote those horrific stories of what they did to the Native Americans?
shane gillis
Fucking snitch.
unidentified
Fucking snitch, dude.
shane gillis
Guys, you're not allowed to go wild?
joe rogan
You cross the ocean?
shane gillis
You're going wild.
joe rogan
Yeah, they shot people's arms off.
They didn't give enough gold.
They dashed baby's heads on the rocks.
They did some horrific shit, man.
Some horrific shit.
unidentified
But...
joe rogan
People were awful back then.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just think about how awful people were in the movies in 1950. Just smack women around.
shane gillis
Yeah, I was just watching that Sean Connery interview yesterday.
It's pretty good.
joe rogan
Every now and again.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
When you've shed it...
shane gillis
He's like, she has to get the last word.
joe rogan
They have to get the last word.
unidentified
And even after you let them get the last word, that's not enough.
shane gillis
It's actually pretty good.
I can't do it.
Connery.
joe rogan
Oh.
I have a fucking zen in my mouth, which makes it harder.
shane gillis
And it fucks you up.
joe rogan
Harder to do that accent.
shane gillis
There it is a little.
Oh, you were just in Scotland.
joe rogan
I can kind of do it.
Did you get it?
Bro, I was in Scotland, and I was at this place, and there's a fucking stone circle that's older than Stonehenge.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, who made this?
Mm-hmm.
I don't know.
You can just go stand on it.
You can touch it.
They don't even protect it.
It's just laying out there in front of this dude's house.
It's literally in front of this dude's house.
shane gillis
That's crazy.
joe rogan
It's like 50 feet in front of it.
You can throw a rock and hit it.
How old is it?
5,000 plus years old.
Stone circle.
No idea who made it.
They think.
Druids?
Maybe druids?
Scotland's fucking beautiful.
shane gillis
Scotland's pretty cool.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
There's no one there.
It's like I kind of discovered it.
shane gillis
Cut off their arms, dude.
joe rogan
There's two million people in the whole country.
shane gillis
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, the whole country's as big as Austin.
Wow.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's fucking gorgeous.
God damn, it's pretty.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Low clouds and the hill, they're not really mountains.
They're kind of like, you know, a couple thousand feet.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
But God, it's fucking gorgeous.
God.
And they have these stags everywhere.
These like big majestic stags around.
shane gillis
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah, I got a picture of one.
I'll show you a picture.
shane gillis
Let me see that.
joe rogan
I'll send it to Jamie so you can take a look at it.
jamie vernon
Have you heard that the mountain range, like the Appalachians, it bleeds over to Europe?
It was connected?
shane gillis
That's pretty cool.
joe rogan
What's that, Jamie?
jamie vernon
The Appalachians, the same mountain range, is the same mountains over there.
joe rogan
Whoa.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
It goes across the ocean?
jamie vernon
Well, I mean, when they were connected, it did.
joe rogan
Oh, like during the panspermia days?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
What?
Panspermia.
Oh, that's the wrong one.
Pangea.
You know what panspermia is?
shane gillis
No, what?
joe rogan
Panspermia is the theory that asteroids seeded life on Earth.
shane gillis
Oh, okay.
joe rogan
It's like spores and amino acids were in asteroids.
shane gillis
That's funny.
Trying to get to be close and just make something gay?
joe rogan
No, I did.
I turned it into sperm.
Check out that picture I sent you, Jeremy.
Here's another one.
This one might be better.
I didn't zoom in as much on this one.
jamie vernon
There's the first one.
joe rogan
Look at this guy.
shane gillis
Oh, damn.
joe rogan
Just wandering around.
I had to zoom in on him.
That's why.
Look at the second one.
Probably less shitty.
Oh, eat me and eat one.
What's that about?
I don't know.
jamie vernon
Is that the way it worked?
unidentified
What have you done?
joe rogan
That dude was just chilling.
shane gillis
That thing's huge.
joe rogan
Huge.
Big ol' stag.
shane gillis
Did you want to shoot him?
joe rogan
100%.
I was looking at his vitals and I was drawing back.
shane gillis
Really?
joe rogan
It was about 90 yards.
shane gillis
Oh, were you hunting when you saw him?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no, no.
I was just wandering around.
I don't think you're allowed to bow hunt in Scotland.
I think they allow you to bow hunt in the UK. Because they're just...
shane gillis
Oh, it's for animals.
joe rogan
Yeah, I just don't think they're educated.
They're not educated about modern compound bows and modern broadheads.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And, you know, if someone's good at a bow and arrow, that's just as ethical as shooting it with a rifle.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Maybe more so.
Animals die fucking quick when you shoot them with a bow and arrow, if you shoot them right.
unidentified
They do.
I believe you.
joe rogan
They die quick.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
With one of those heavy-duty compounds, like a Hoyt, shooting fucking 300 feet per second, razor-sharp broadhead at the end of it.
Just passes right through their body.
Next thing you know, they're spraying blood.
shane gillis
Yeah?
joe rogan
They die quick.
shane gillis
You just went there, right?
Did you just go hunting?
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
What'd you get?
joe rogan
I got an elk.
shane gillis
Yeah, a big fucker.
joe rogan
Big fucker.
unidentified
That's fun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
You killed it with a bow and arrow?
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Did you scream?
joe rogan
I screamed.
unidentified
I bet.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
You're a Viking dude.
joe rogan
No, I'm not.
unidentified
Yeah, you are.
shane gillis
Bow and arrow?
joe rogan
Yeah, bow and arrow.
shane gillis
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
I need difficult things to do, dude.
I have a fucked up brain.
I figured it out somewhere in my 20s that I just need to keep doing difficult things in order to stay sane.
I don't have a brain that is allowed to sit still.
Yeah.
You know, I'm from the Romans.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's my ancestry.
Bunch of fucking psychos.
shane gillis
Yeah, I came from, like, bog people.
joe rogan
It's like, yeah, let's just fucking chill.
Well, I'm one quarter bog people.
shane gillis
Let's just sit in this mud.
joe rogan
I'm one quarter bog people in trunks.
Three quarters Roman.
shane gillis
Sicilian.
joe rogan
So I got some black in me, too.
I got some of the Moors.
You know, there's a lot of weird influences in my genetics.
shane gillis
Yeah, you're fucked up.
Whatever it is.
Whatever the mix is.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a weird mix.
It works well if you can fuck it.
You know, the way I say it, it's like if you have a race car.
If you don't know how to drive a race car, you're gonna fucking crash into a tree.
But if you understand what's required to maintain this thing, and you realize it's different than every other car on the road, you just have to manage it.
You have to understand how to use it.
shane gillis
I don't know what I am.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're some kind of a fucking SUV. Just a van with a fucking taped window?
shane gillis
I have no idea.
joe rogan
You're a party van.
You're like a living fucking sprinter van.
shane gillis
I don't know what it is.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're a party van.
shane gillis
We'll figure it out.
joe rogan
You're an awesome party van.
Yeah, you'd have good tunes.
shane gillis
I'm trying.
joe rogan
A cooler full of beer.
You're a party man.
shane gillis
Just Drake, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, no need to go fast.
unidentified
Still fucking...
joe rogan
All over the road.
shane gillis
Changing lanes.
joe rogan
Oh my god, I saw this video today of this guy who was driving on the highway, and he's in a truck, and then before he can stop, there's sheep all over the road.
He hits a thousand sheep.
Here, I'll send it to you.
I'll say that to Jamie.
It's so fucked up.
shane gillis
I mean, that's not great, but that's gonna be very funny.
joe rogan
Well, it's okay to watch because it's not gory, but it's just like, oh my god, what the fuck do you do?
You can't do anything.
He had zero time to prepare.
shane gillis
How many thoughts?
joe rogan
Oh, quite a few.
shane gillis
Do they have the dash cam from in the car?
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
Do you get to see him?
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
That's my favorite.
joe rogan
Instagram is fucking weird.
Like, sometimes when Instagram is open, it won't show you the link you're trying to get to.
Did it come up, the right one?
Here, I'll show you.
I'll send it to you.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Is it the right one?
unidentified
Oh, dude, I must have shown it on Protective Parks.
shane gillis
There's one where there's dogs crossing the street.
unidentified
Oh.
Dude, it's so...
joe rogan
So watch this.
All right.
Go full screen on this.
This dude's just driving along the road, having a good old time, just doing his thing, trying to get to his destination.
He's not even speeding.
Look, going normal.
Oh, Jesus.
unidentified
Boom!
joe rogan
Bro.
Bro.
How many sheep did he kill?
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Oh, no!
How many sheep did he kill?
I mean, I'm guessing 500. So many.
So many.
jamie vernon
He's in a semi-truck, clearly, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, clearly.
Because it didn't even slow him down.
You didn't hear a bang.
shane gillis
He got him with the high beams, though.
Look at this guy.
joe rogan
Bro had nine years to break.
Shut the fuck up, bitch.
It's always some guy who's shirtless in his avatar.
Look at him.
jamie vernon
Like five white lines down the middle of the road.
joe rogan
Yeah, you had no time.
You're going 70 miles an hour, you have zero time.
Bang!
Ba-ba-boom!
shane gillis
Ba-ba-ba-boom!
joe rogan
Ba-ba-ba-ba-boom!
I mean, that's hundreds of sheep are getting slaughtered there.
Look, by the time you're slowing down...
jamie vernon
I just noticed, too, his windshield wiper automatically turned on there.
joe rogan
Oh, from the spray.
jamie vernon
It wasn't on before.
joe rogan
Oh.
God damn.
What do you do?
shane gillis
You gotta drive off, dude.
joe rogan
You just gotta keep driving.
You just gotta keep driving.
But meanwhile, anybody who's coming after you is gonna crash.
And you can't clear that many.
You'll get killed.
Because when someone's coming along, they don't see you in time.
Obviously, if you're in the middle of the road.
shane gillis
That'd be hard work.
jamie vernon
That'd be so heavy.
joe rogan
There's no way that guy.
There's no way.
There's no way.
shane gillis
Damn, people are watching the fuck out of this video.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
shane gillis
This is a big video.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
The dog one is not.
People listening to this are not gonna like it.
joe rogan
I love these backstreet drivers.
Look at this comment.
Look at this comment here.
Click back on that.
Look at this.
unidentified
I mean, fair he didn't see him, but you're driving on an empty road.
Why are you high beams not on to begin with?
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
Just shut the fuck up.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Shut the fuck up.
shane gillis
I mean, what country do you think?
Where was that?
unidentified
Isn't that funny?
joe rogan
Like, everything that ever happens.
Someone's always like, oh, why did...
shane gillis
This is what you should have done.
unidentified
You should have done it different.
You should have.
joe rogan
Every now and then, you give him a slap.
shane gillis
That guy needs a slap.
A little slap.
Commenting on fucking Instagram.
Just a little slap.
That poor driver went through that hellish night.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
That probably fucked him up.
joe rogan
Probably not.
shane gillis
You don't think?
joe rogan
No, he's probably on meth.
He's probably trying to get to his destination.
unidentified
He's just on meth.
joe rogan
He's probably like, this is awesome!
shane gillis
He probably saw every sheet.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Every one that he hit, he saw it crystal clear.
joe rogan
He probably sped up the video so it didn't look so bad.
He was going slow as fuck.
shane gillis
It's not good.
jamie vernon
Happened in Australia.
shane gillis
Oh, nice.
joe rogan
Okay.
jamie vernon
Well over 100. Killing and injuring more than 100. There's a few still photos from the other angle.
shane gillis
Oh, no.
joe rogan
Whoa.
I like how they blurred out the sheep.
shane gillis
Aw, these poor guys.
unidentified
Aw, where's my friends?
joe rogan
Oh, fuck.
shane gillis
That's sad.
joe rogan
Fuck.
That does suck.
shane gillis
Australia continues to bring the heat.
jamie vernon
Doesn't say anything.
shane gillis
Every video they put out is the funniest video you've ever seen.
joe rogan
That's a wild place, man.
That is a wild place.
As many people as in Los Angeles, and it's the size of the United States, and the center of it is filled with death.
shane gillis
It's empty.
joe rogan
It's all death.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's all things that can kill you.
Death.
shane gillis
I talk about it a lot, obviously, but there's a video of a guy, not the one punching the kangaroo, that's the greatest.
There's a guy, like, hang gliding.
Hang gliding?
He's parachuting down.
And kangaroos just start chasing him.
And they start attacking him.
unidentified
He's like, oh, get out of here, fucker!
shane gillis
It's so funny.
joe rogan
Well, he's paragliding?
shane gillis
No, he's just landing a parachute.
joe rogan
Oh, you got it?
shane gillis
Oh, nice.
These two dickheads come and attack him.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
shane gillis
Look at these dickheads.
joe rogan
Kangaroos can fuck you up, too.
That's the crazy thing, is people die from kangaroos.
So imagine the balls that kangaroos have.
This guy can fucking fly.
shane gillis
So scary.
joe rogan
And they come in and fuck you up.
Wow.
And they're grabbing at you.
Imagine their balls, though.
unidentified
Fucking kangaroos.
shane gillis
Fucking get out of here.
joe rogan
They are a plague over there.
You ever seen the herds of them?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's like fucking thousands of them.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just running together.
And they have to shoot them.
Because they have no predators.
shane gillis
Really?
joe rogan
No predators.
I mean, I don't know what the fuck used to kill kangaroos.
Maybe the Tasmanian tigers?
Maybe?
The thylacine?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which they think still exist?
They think they're still out there.
shane gillis
How'd they die?
joe rogan
People killed them.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure.
I'm sure.
I mean, the last one was in a zoo.
The last live one they had was in a zoo.
shane gillis
They were dumb fucking...
They were dumb.
unidentified
Well...
shane gillis
It was time to go for those guys.
joe rogan
They're weird looking.
It's like a strange dog looking kind of creature.
They're kind of cool.
And they have giant mouths.
When they yawn and open their mouths, they're like, what the fuck are you doing with all those teeth?
shane gillis
Yeah, it's got like a fucking alligator head.
joe rogan
Yeah, giant fucking mouth.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They think they have them still in remote areas, though.
Because there's so much unexplored area, and people have spotted them.
shane gillis
What, in like Van Diemen's land?
joe rogan
You know.
shane gillis
Oh, they were marsupials?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, isn't that wild?
They had a pouch.
A lot of marsupials over there, which is also odd.
What a cool-looking fucking animal.
shane gillis
Yeah, I take it back.
That's a good guy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They think they found...
Google thylacine spotted.
Spotted in Australia.
Sightings, 2021. There you go.
Click on that.
unidentified
Yeah, they think they've seen them.
joe rogan
Tasmanian tiger-like animal caught on video to Suburban Street.
Yeah, they think they still exist, man.
Like a bunch of people have apparently spotted them in different places.
To the point where I had a biologist on the podcast who was explaining that there's multiple different scientists that are trying to find these things.
They have camera traps set up and shit.
And there's enough sightings that people are pretty sure that they're real.
That they actually still exist.
Which totally makes sense.
It's so big.
shane gillis
Imagine being the poor fucking guys that got exiled there.
unidentified
Oof.
shane gillis
There's just those fucking animals around.
joe rogan
Yeah, when they exiled them, they took the prisoners from England.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
What'd they do?
Just drop them off and say, get out of there?
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
Like, political prisoners would have to go, too.
unidentified
Ooh.
shane gillis
Yeah.
So there's a bunch of Irish dudes that had to go to Tasmania.
joe rogan
Mmm.
shane gillis
And you're just stuck there.
joe rogan
Oh.
shane gillis
I mean, they escaped.
They got off pretty easy.
I'm sure it wasn't easy.
I'm sure you died trying.
joe rogan
It's fucking beautiful, though.
The weather's amazing.
They're probably like, fuck England.
This place rules.
shane gillis
No, it's just you.
joe rogan
Oh.
Just by yourself?
shane gillis
Fucking house.
joe rogan
Well, how'd the girls get over there?
shane gillis
They got some babes.
How'd they get over there?
They got some babes.
joe rogan
Was it local babes?
They must have imported girls.
Those are white girls.
shane gillis
Yeah, women got sent, too.
joe rogan
Oh, bad girls.
shane gillis
Whores.
joe rogan
Bad girls.
shane gillis
Whores and drunks.
joe rogan
Do you know that that's the Australian accent?
shane gillis
What?
joe rogan
The Australian accent is essentially a drunk English accent.
shane gillis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's pretty great.
joe rogan
Isn't that wild?
shane gillis
Yeah, I think they could only trade like rum.
That was like their main...
unidentified
That's all they had?
shane gillis
Yeah, like most...
I think that's how it was in the Caribbean too.
Yeah, they just had rum and they're like, fuck.
joe rogan
Fucking kangaroo, get out of here, fucker.
Ah, fuck.
unidentified
Literally.
shane gillis
It's going on a walk, you get attacked.
joe rogan
It's a drunk version of the English accent.
shane gillis
English accent's gay.
joe rogan
You don't like it?
shane gillis
Not all of them.
The proper.
Liverpool's great accent.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Yeah.
Scousers.
The fucking...
joe rogan
Paddy the Batty.
shane gillis
Paddy the Batty's great.
I mean, we'll see.
unidentified
I don't know.
shane gillis
Yeah, we'll see.
He's a fun guy.
joe rogan
He's a fun guy.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The Liverpool people, they're fucking fun.
shane gillis
When's he fighting again?
joe rogan
He's fighting Tony Ferguson, I believe in two weeks, right?
Yeah, in the next UFC. Tony Ferguson's fun.
Tony Ferguson's got some miles.
shane gillis
He's a fun guy.
joe rogan
Got some miles on that body.
Yeah.
He's been training with David Goggins.
shane gillis
Oh, I saw that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
That's kind of...
Goggins is just fucking him up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
I wonder how good that is for you to run 100 miles.
joe rogan
We're going to find out.
shane gillis
It can't be good.
I'm no expert on fitness.
joe rogan
Well, fitness is important, but sparring is very important, too.
And timing is important, and training, and technique, and drilling, and being prepared to do specific things.
It's just...
When fighters get older, they can't move as good.
There's a bunch of shit that you don't see.
They might have knee things that you don't see.
They might have back things that you don't see.
So they look the same.
There's apparently a video of Tony Ferguson When he used to enter the octagon, how he used to move, versus now.
shane gillis
Oh yeah, he did that like crawl thing?
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
Didn't he do that?
joe rogan
But it's also the contrast to the way his body moves.
Dude, in the old days, when Tony Ferguson was on this undefeated run, he was one of the baddest fucking man on the planet.
The fact that him and Khabib never got to fight is a real fucking tragedy.
Yeah.
When he was in his prime, that's when he fell, just tripped on some wires backstage doing an interview, and ripped his fucking knee apart.
Just completely ripped his knee apart.
shane gillis
I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what happened.
That's why the fight got canceled.
And Al Iaquinta wound up fighting Khabib.
It was crazy.
It's like, he's just walking along, and he trips.
And his knee just explodes.
I mean, like severe, catastrophic knee injury.
He had to get everything fucking surgically reattached and months and months of rehab.
And he came back and he beat Anthony Pettis and he looked really fucking good.
But, you know.
Yeah.
An elite fighter can only operate at their highest level for so many years.
There's a window of time where you can operate at the highest RPMs.
So here it is.
This is from 2015. This is him moving around when he got into the octagon.
And this is 2019, still looking pretty good.
2022, a little slower.
Yeah, quite a bit difference.
That's them knees are fucking feeling it now.
Now he's feeling it, right?
He's just moving different.
And they're saying sad.
And now here we are, 23. That Chandler knockout was rough.
shane gillis
The kick?
joe rogan
Got front kicks right to the jaw.
There's a photo of Chandler's foot connected on Tony's face.
shane gillis
It's like a fucking dolly painting.
joe rogan
It's wild.
It's wild to look at what happens to someone's face when a foot impacts their fucking jaw.
shane gillis
Just this.
joe rogan
It's horrible.
It's horrible.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Rough sport.
shane gillis
It is a rough sport.
I will say this about the cold plunge, I'm still cold.
joe rogan
Yeah, there it is.
Oh no!
Bro, how crazy is that?
I mean, that is a crazy photograph.
That's crazy.
He looked like he just turned a thousand years old.
Like they got him out of a glacier.
Like he was frozen in a glacier.
I mean, that's a perfect...
And look at Chandler's fucking quads.
Imagine how much power is in that.
Good lord.
Good lord.
Look at his body.
He's just a ball of tense muscle.
Just exploding on your face.
unidentified
pause that sounded a lot more gay than I was trying to make it sound It happens.
joe rogan
We're gonna do.
shane gillis
Have you seen the Cameron and Mace podcast?
joe rogan
I did.
shane gillis
It's as funny as it gets.
joe rogan
Hilarious.
shane gillis
The pause, the fucking...
joe rogan
They're just going after it.
shane gillis
That's crazy.
Pause is so fucking funny.
joe rogan
They just went after it.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's like we were talking about this, that like they talk like people used to talk in the 90s.
shane gillis
Yeah, they're going.
They're telling stories, too.
joe rogan
They're just telling stories.
This is what we used to do.
shane gillis
They talk about, like, running trains on chicks.
unidentified
And they're laughing.
joe rogan
They're both laughing so loud.
shane gillis
Yeah, it's as good as it gets.
joe rogan
It's really funny.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because they're not scared.
And that's the thing.
Like, everybody today's scared.
They're scared of telling the truth.
And these guys are just going for it.
shane gillis
They don't give a fuck.
And it's very, very funny.
joe rogan
Speaking of not giving a fuck.
True.
Hey, hey, longhorns.
unidentified
True.
shane gillis
I'm going to get a lot of flack for not wearing a Notre Dame hat right now.
joe rogan
Is Bud Light coming back?
Bud Light's back, baby.
I feel like it's coming back.
shane gillis
I'm not gay no more.
I am delivered!
unidentified
I feel like it's coming back.
shane gillis
I'm in the transfer portal, dude.
I'm out.
Notre Dame's done.
joe rogan
What happened?
shane gillis
I thought Jamie would like that.
He didn't care at all.
I like women.
joe rogan
I'm not gay no more!
shane gillis
For the record, Notre Dame's not done.
We're still the best.
unidentified
I don't like men.
I don't like women.
I said I like women.
joe rogan
Women, women, women.
unidentified
Dude, the fucking.
I would not be a man.
joe rogan
I would not tear a purse.
unidentified
I would not put on makeup.
joe rogan
I will.
unidentified
I will.
Love.
A woman.
shane gillis
Yeah, the other guy.
unidentified
The other guy's high-fiving.
joe rogan
I don't know more.
unidentified
I am deserved. - Over it!
I said I like women.
Women, women, women.
joe rogan
I think this dude came out as gay after this, though.
shane gillis
Yeah, clearly he's gay.
He's so gay.
joe rogan
Didn't he afterwards?
He said, who am I kidding?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
After a while.
shane gillis
He tried his best.
He got socially pressured into being like, I'm not gay.
joe rogan
But the weird thing is when they start dancing around him.
shane gillis
It's all gay.
joe rogan
It's weird.
There's a bunch of men dancing around him.
They're all real close.
shane gillis
They're high-fiving each other.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're like hugging and shit.
Yeah, we're so gay.
jamie vernon
Mr. Delivered.
joe rogan
Mr. Delivered.
Delivered.
An internet sensation.
Radio personality known for his famous I'm Delivered video that went viral in 2014. Oh wow, so he's making something.
How many followers have you got?
jamie vernon
350,000.
joe rogan
Damn, 357. So let me see what he's up to now.
shane gillis
Lost a little weight.
joe rogan
Looking kind of slim.
shane gillis
He's looking good, dude.
joe rogan
But is he gay now?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, look at that photo.
Look at that photo down there.
shane gillis
Yeah, he's gay.
joe rogan
I mean, what is happening here?
shane gillis
He's back.
joe rogan
Yeah.
If he's not gay, he should consider it.
shane gillis
He is.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
He was gay then.
joe rogan
He was gay.
shane gillis
He was gay.
joe rogan
What a tragedy.
Imagine being gay and people don't want you to be gay.
That has got to suck.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because imagine if everyone was gay.
Because, like, if you're in high school right now and you're not gay, you're not even cool.
Yeah, if you're not trans, what are you?
You're a straight white man, you piece of shit.
shane gillis
You fucking scum.
joe rogan
You're responsible for everything.
You're like, what?
I'm 11. What did I do?
shane gillis
That doesn't change.
You get older, you go, wait a second, I didn't fucking do anything.
joe rogan
I didn't do anything!
I was just born!
shane gillis
Yeah, that was funny as fuck.
Simpson in the green room.
Maybe this isn't great for this, but we were talking about the Gypsy King.
We were talking about Tyson Fury.
We were talking about how Gypsy's like, you can't call him Gypsy.
You can't say Gypsy over there.
They get offended.
And Brian Simpson was like, well, they call each other Gypsy.
And I was like...
unidentified
I know, it's crazy, right?
joe rogan
It was perfect that he said it.
shane gillis
Yeah, it was crazy.
He's like, well, they say, they call each other gypsies.
joe rogan
And then we all just pause and fucking howling, and then we're howling.
And the whole room was howling.
shane gillis
He got it right away.
As soon as I was like, I know, crazy, right?
unidentified
He was like, fuck.
Bro, that green room is my favorite spot on earth.
shane gillis
You going tonight?
joe rogan
I can't wait.
shane gillis
I'm going to be asleep, dude.
joe rogan
Are you?
shane gillis
Yeah, I did.
This is the true Joe Rogan experience.
Workout, podcast, stand-up.
Yeah.
That's a tough day.
joe rogan
Really?
What else did you do?
shane gillis
Usually it's just lay down, stand up.
joe rogan
My shit's on?
Who is this?
I don't even know these people.
Answer it.
No, I'm getting WhatsApp calls.
How am I getting WhatsApp calls?
shane gillis
Is that from Argentina?
joe rogan
No, this one's not.
But I've gotten multiple WhatsApp calls today.
What if my phone number got leaked?
shane gillis
Under the WhatsApp?
joe rogan
I think I'm going to delete WhatsApp.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's no need for me to have that thing on there.
shane gillis
No, I had it.
I had it when I was living in Europe.
I didn't like it.
joe rogan
Yeah, for people in Europe, a lot of people don't have iPhones over there.
That's how they use WhatsApp.
How come it's so popular over there, but not over here?
What happened?
shane gillis
I don't know.
They got it.
It's weird to, yeah, use a separate app to text.
joe rogan
Well, I think it's because it's free or something.
I don't think I understand anything.
Is that what it is?
unidentified
Let me delete that thing right now.
joe rogan
Because it's been happening all day.
shane gillis
Are they still using it?
joe rogan
Something must have happened.
jamie vernon
Delete it.
joe rogan
Sorry.
Bye, WhatsApp.
jamie vernon
Cross-platform functionality.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
I don't know anything.
joe rogan
I don't either.
I just know my phone's been blowing up with WhatsApp.
When I think about WhatsApp, I think about what happened to Jeff Bezos.
shane gillis
What's that?
joe rogan
Well, someone, I think it was the top dude in Saudi Arabia, sent him a link.
Here, click on this, my friend.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And it was one of those- The black eyes with the dick?
unidentified
Yeah.
Got him.
joe rogan
Somebody got me the other day with Floyd Mayweather.
shane gillis
I got that one.
I got sent that.
I saw the San Francisco Chronicle at the bottom.
That's how you know.
joe rogan
Segura, whenever he sends me something, I'm like, I know he got me.
shane gillis
I'm clicking anyway.
unidentified
Ah!
shane gillis
He got me.
joe rogan
But the head guy sent Bezos a link.
And yeah, Jeff Bezos hack.
Amazon boss phone hacked by Saudi Crown Prince.
shane gillis
Wild.
joe rogan
Okay.
Investigation suggests Washington Post's owner was targeted five months before murder of Jamal Khashoggi.
Yeah, because they were...
The Washington Post was doing some sort of an expose on MBS. And then that was before they killed Jamal Khashoggi.
And then they sent him a message like, hey, click on this.
And it uploaded Pegasus software to his phone.
And Pegasus is the Israeli spy software that allows them to read everything on your phone.
Apparently, though, according to Gavin DeBecker, who's a securities expert, that the new Pegasus, Pegasus 2, they don't even need a link.
They just need your phone number.
Like, it's over.
Like, all this idea of, like, encrypted this and fucking hidden that and...
I was trying to explain to a friend of mine.
He carries around one of those weird phones, which, you know, it's like an Android phone that has some sort of top-secret operating system.
shane gillis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And he thinks, like, no one can track me.
Are they making a factory?
I go, hold on.
Are you making phone calls?
Do you use text messages?
Okay, well, then your phone, it relates to the tower, and they know exactly where you are.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's one way, one way for you to hide the location.
You have to take your phone, and you have to shut it off, and then put it in a Faraday bag.
And he's like, what's a Faraday bag?
You ever heard of the company Silent?
No.
SLNT. They make backpacks.
And inside that backpack, there's a Faraday sleeve for your laptop and a Faraday sleeve for your iPhone or your phone.
And you put it in there and you vanish.
shane gillis
Who's doing that?
Who's vanishing?
joe rogan
A lot of people.
Why?
Well, I don't know if you know about the state of the world today, but a lot of people are being tracked.
shane gillis
I don't know.
Like, I have no need to vanish.
joe rogan
For now, you don't.
shane gillis
Yeah, but...
joe rogan
But if some shit gets weird...
shane gillis
Yeah, but how many people are getting...
Like, a company is making this for just regular dudes that are like, I need to get off the grid.
joe rogan
Yeah, because someone...
Like, say if you're in a divorce.
This is silent.
S-L-N-T. Reconnect your right to disconnect.
Yeah, if you, like, say if you're going through a divorce or something like that, and your wife fucking decides to trap your phone everywhere.
unidentified
Black guy!
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's got his hand up.
unidentified
Hey!
shane gillis
This isn't good.
joe rogan
Get away.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
My bad.
joe rogan
They work.
shane gillis
It's very funny they're still doing like...
joe rogan
But once you start using your phone, they know where you are.
shane gillis
Of course.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I mean, if you're fucking hiding from the CIA, guess what?
You can't use a phone.
shane gillis
The CIA's gonna get you.
joe rogan
They're gonna get you.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
And eventually, you're gonna use someone else's phone.
They got the president.
shane gillis
They shot the president in the head.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
shane gillis
They're gonna get you.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
shane gillis
Also, who are you?
unidentified
What are you doing?
joe rogan
Yeah, who do you do?
shane gillis
I don't know.
I don't...
I mean, you, yeah.
Again, I'm not getting on a plane with you again.
unidentified
I assume.
shane gillis
You're in trouble.
joe rogan
I assume.
shane gillis
They're going to get you.
joe rogan
They're listening to everything I say.
They got all my dick pics.
They got all my fucking, all my memes.
shane gillis
I'm just, I'm going to, every time I fucking jack off.
jamie vernon
Speaking of, yesterday, the Grand Theft Auto thing leaked, the trailer leaked, and they said the way it happened is because they probably uploaded it to YouTube, and once you do that, no matter if a video is private or not, anyone, not anyone, but most people who work at YouTube, Have access to that now.
Right.
shane gillis
Oh, okay.
jamie vernon
So thousands of people had accessed that file and could have stolen it immediately.
shane gillis
Anyway, anytime I jack off, I'm always worried somebody gets that footage.
joe rogan
Your phone's looking at you?
shane gillis
It is, but yeah, if somebody sees that face, that face, just...
joe rogan
With a half-hard dip.
Are you thinking about quitting, but you're just determined to keep going?
Because you don't want to stop once you start.
shane gillis
We've got to see if that zinc works.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Fucking...
joe rogan
Measure your loads.
unidentified
A little scale.
shane gillis
Oh, this was good today.
unidentified
Let's see.
joe rogan
I had five egg whites.
shane gillis
Yeah, that Waffle House paid off with a major load.
joe rogan
Yeah, if guys have little loads, they get sad.
shane gillis
It is depressing.
joe rogan
What's all that about?
shane gillis
Jamie, you have little loads.
jamie vernon
How do you know?
unidentified
From...
jamie vernon
How do you know?
shane gillis
Don't worry about it, brother.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you saying?
jamie vernon
I'm looking at.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you saying?
jamie vernon
Do you have access to my phone?
Yes.
joe rogan
He's got Pegasus 3. Yes.
Which only gets your fucking load.
shane gillis
I just go straight to Jamie.
joe rogan
Whenever you're linked to YouPorn, it fucking sends a notification to Shane's phone.
And he watches you whack on it.
shane gillis
My buddy got fucked.
He was...
Shout out Lemaire.
He's going to love this.
He's got some great stories.
One of them, we were on the road in fucking Milwaukee, and he was like, you know what, I'm going to try to find an orgy.
What?
joe rogan
Try to find an orgy?
shane gillis
If you knew this guy, it would be even crazier to see this guy being like, I should go to an orgy.
joe rogan
He just said, I'm going to go find it.
Who the fuck says that?
shane gillis
So he went on Reddit to Milwaukee's Gone Wild.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
shane gillis
Whatever city we're in, he checks out their Gone Wild.
And they were like, we're having an orgy at the Days Inn.
unidentified
For reference.
shane gillis
Just so you know, that guy was, and then he got, he paid, they were like, it's $100 a ticket.
He was like, alright, deal.
Pays him $100, takes an Uber to the Days Inn in Milwaukee at like 3am.
He gets there.
He's in the lobby.
He's like, hey, can you guys, I'm here.
And they're like, we're too busy fucking, we can't let you in.
It's just a complete scam.
And he gets back to my house.
We're in New York.
And he's like, I gotta fuck it.
He's like, I'm gonna message him and be like, give me that fucking money back.
So he messages him and they're like, they must have his location somehow.
So he messages them and he's like, hey, you guys fucked me on that.
And they're like, actually, we're doing an orgy in Brooklyn tonight.
We'll give you half off if you want to come to that.
unidentified
Oh my gosh.
shane gillis
It's like, dude, they just keep taking his money.
joe rogan
He's so dumb.
They just keep taking his money.
He's so dumb and he's just horny.
He's like, yeah, yeah, it's worth it.
shane gillis
I could be wrong.
They might have got him on a FaceTime.
Somebody might have got him on a jacking off on FaceTime.
joe rogan
How'd they do that?
shane gillis
They say they're a girl.
They don't show you who they are.
They keep their screen black.
unidentified
Oh, boy.
shane gillis
You whack off, they go, you owe us $5,000 and we're going to release that video.
unidentified
Oh, Lamare.
shane gillis
Shout out, Lamare.
I just fucked him.
My bad, Lamare.
joe rogan
I love you, dude.
Listen, what is it going to do to him?
It's a funny story.
It'll help his career.
shane gillis
He's told that story before.
joe rogan
Yeah, it'll help his career.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's the thing about being a comic.
It's not like being a journalist.
You know?
If you're a journalist and you get busted, jacking off to FaceTime, like, you're in real trouble.
Like that Jeffrey Toobin guy?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
That guy was in real trouble.
Like, he lost his job.
I think they brought him back on CNN, but everybody just kept calling him the jerk-off guy.
shane gillis
That's over.
You're done.
joe rogan
And then he went on Patrick Beck-David's podcast.
He was, like, defending the vaccine like it was a religious doctrine.
It was wild.
It's like this guy was so scared of being canceled.
Everything was completely by the book.
Whatever the narrative is that the mainstream media is pushing, this guy was all in with no questions asked.
shane gillis
He was jacked off.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's just how it is.
That's just how it is.
If you're one of those guys, you can't...
It's fucking dangerous if you want those guys.
You don't want them coming for you again.
You already got caught jacking off.
shane gillis
Getting caught jacking off is brutal.
That's a tough one.
On a fucking Zoom.
joe rogan
The fact that you can't stop jerking off while you're talking about the election.
shane gillis
That just means the whole time he was talking, in the back of his head, he was like, I'm a jack-off.
joe rogan
Well, that's a real person, as opposed to what these people portray themselves in the media as these, like, moral authorities and these experts and these people of substantial reason.
They're not that.
They're fucking weirdos who are being confined by this job and they're boxed into a very specific way of behaving and talking and they put makeup on you and they sit you in front of a camera and you talk about whatever the fuck they tell you to talk about and you pretend you're smarter than everybody else.
And when those people go on a show where they get questioned, like that guy went on the Patrick Bette David podcast, you just see who they really are.
It's like, oh, you're just some guy and this is what you do.
shane gillis
And they work for both.
They work for CNN and Fox.
They're like girlfriends.
joe rogan
Yeah, they go back.
shane gillis
Whoever I'm dating, that's my personality.
joe rogan
Well, didn't Tucker Carlson start at CNN? Yes.
Yeah.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's buck wild now.
shane gillis
His laugh's wild.
joe rogan
He's wild.
I met him for the first time.
shane gillis
I heard he's a man.
joe rogan
Very nice guy.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Very nice guy.
Like, seemed genuine.
Shook his hand.
How you doing?
We talk.
Chit-chat.
shane gillis
Yeah.
Everything I've seen of him, he seems cool.
Listen, man.
I wouldn't describe him as cool.
joe rogan
This is what he is.
He's odd.
He's odd.
There's no question about it.
He's odd.
The way he laughs is odd.
The way he communicates is odd.
But I don't think he's a bad guy at all.
I think what he does is very important, for the most part.
Some of the stuff is like...
Like, when he found the dude who blew Obama.
Like, yo!
What are you doing here?
Like, what is this?
I mean, this is the same guy that's exposing fraud in the CIA. This is the same guy that wants to release the Kennedy files.
And then he's like, also, this guy blew the president.
Like, what?
Even if he did, who fucking cares?
I kind of want to know.
But who can't?
I'm kind of happy he did it.
That's big news.
I know, but is it shocking?
I mean, if you're a guy and you're running for president and you're gay, you're not telling anybody.
Not in this day and age.
There's just way too many people that wouldn't, they would think you're a freak.
There's way too many people that unfairly associate gay people with some other kind of perversion as well.
They don't just think this is just, you know, just like how you like women, this guy likes men, we should all be free.
And clearly, It is how he is.
This is not some wacky thing like being addicted to gambling.
This is like a thing that is in your genes, and we need to accept it.
If we're going to be a kind, compassionate society, we need to accept it.
But there's a lot of people that automatically will associate homosexuality with some kind of perversion for whatever unfortunate reason.
shane gillis
Well, the reason is because it's guys fucking each other in the butt.
So that throws people off.
joe rogan
That throws people off a little bit.
But that should be completely legal.
It gets lumped into, like, pedophilia.
And then whenever there's a pedophile that happens to be gay, then people are like, see?
But there's just a lot of pedophiles.
You know?
I mean, that's the creepiest thing.
shane gillis
Oh, I got sent in a documentary last night about this lady.
This lady who fucked a 12-year-old student, and she got pregnant.
unidentified
Uh...
shane gillis
Fuck's her name.
joe rogan
Why does that not bother me nearly as much as male pedophiles?
shane gillis
Because it's fucking cool.
joe rogan
Yeah!
He found out about something cool later.
He found out about something cool a little sooner than he should have.
shane gillis
Although I think he got...
I think he got a little damaged.
joe rogan
Of course he got damaged.
I'm just kidding.
I have a friend of mine that got really fucked up by that.
shane gillis
Yeah, Mary Kay...
jamie vernon
Oh, this is similar too, but...
shane gillis
No, that's the...
Oh, well, that was the one I got.
It was the Mary Kay one.
jamie vernon
Okay.
unidentified
Mmm.
joe rogan
Mary Kay Letourneau.
Oh yeah.
That was a famous one.
shane gillis
It's a wild lady.
He was 13. She started to have sex with him when he was 13. Damn, she was already the mother of four and had a marriage that was disintegrating.
Yeah, obviously.
joe rogan
Imagine the first sex you get, you don't even get to have sex with a fellow teenager.
You gotta bang this old lady who's had 50 kids.
You don't even know!
unidentified
I mean...
shane gillis
That's him now, dude.
joe rogan
I think they got married after they split up and she went to jail and then they still got married.
jamie vernon
Oh, she passed away in 2020. Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, of what?
unidentified
Died at 58. I think she had butt cancer.
shane gillis
I swear to God.
joe rogan
No, he's serious.
shane gillis
I swear to God.
joe rogan
He was just shooting loads in there forever.
That's like probably so bad for your butt.
shane gillis
Cum?
joe rogan
You got a bunch of cum in there?
unidentified
I'm just guessing.
shane gillis
Could be bad for you.
I don't know.
unidentified
It might be bad.
joe rogan
Probably not good.
Otherwise, everybody would do it.
Imagine if that was the key to longevity.
We have found, you know, this is the reason why ancient cultures- I mean, if I had to do it.
If you had to do it.
shane gillis
No.
joe rogan
If you had to fuck a guy.
I was telling Tony the other day, I'd fuck a guy who still wears a mask.
Like, shut up.
shane gillis
Yeah.
You'd violently fuck a guy.
joe rogan
If the guy's still wearing a mask in 2023, I'll pick him.
shane gillis
I still, yeah.
I saw a guy on the plane yesterday wearing a mask.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Rock hard when I saw him.
joe rogan
Listen, I feel bad for them.
I really do.
At this point, I feel bad for them.
I just feel like they're just not getting good information.
They're lost.
They're scared.
They're confused.
unidentified
I get it.
shane gillis
I get the...
It did, that fucked me up as far as like, cause for like a year I was afraid of like talking close to people.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
I was afraid for quite a few months.
shane gillis
For however long that was, that like fucked me up for a while.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I feel like until I got to Texas I was afraid.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
But LA was afraid.
Like it was in the air.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like people were freaked the fuck out, man.
They were weirded out.
Like Bill Burr in his podcast was yelling at someone who was across the street who didn't have a mask on.
He talked about it on the podcast.
What, no mask?
Bill was all in on that nonsense.
shane gillis
He was.
joe rogan
But I swear to God, it's in the air there.
I feel like if he was here, he wouldn't have done that.
There's a thing that's real, and you could feel it when you go to other countries for sure, is that people have, there's a different vibe that the people there have.
And if you're, we are, vibes and people's thoughts and their energy, It's very contagious.
It's very contagious.
And if you're around people that are freaked out, you're going to be more freaked out than you would be if you're around people who weren't.
And most people have a certain level of anxiety anyway.
I mean, there's a reason why they're selling so much Xanax.
There's a reason why so many people are on SSRIs.
There's a lot of people out there that are not on a good path, whether it's because of their own fault or whether it's decisions that were made that affected them or there's the way they were raised or the fucking environment they find themselves in.
I'm not casting any blame on people.
But there's a certain percentage of the population that is just already fucked up And then COVID came along.
And I think there was more people that are already fucked up in these high-population urban areas.
And I think it's just natural.
Because I don't think people are supposed to be stacked on top of each other like that.
Like, one of the things that I felt when I went to Scotland, you feel relaxed.
Like, almost immediately.
And I was like...
And we were all talking about this.
We were like, I think when you're around a shit ton of people, whether you recognize it or not, there's something you're experiencing.
There's energy you're experiencing.
Whether it's just because there's so many numbers and you're paying attention to all these different people and kind of like seeing, looking around you and taking in all this data, whether it's a lot of noise, or whether it's like there's physical energy that comes off of people that we just don't know how to measure yet.
I'm more inclined to think that.
Because this is why I like the mountains so much.
When I go to the mountains, dude, I feel better.
Like, you feel like...
Like, whatever the fuck is fucking with people in cities.
And so if you go to cities and everybody's all ramped up and crazy.
Like, why are they so ramped up like that, but they're not in Scotland?
Because you're not supposed to be stacked on top of each other like that.
This is some new thing we're trying out.
shane gillis
Yeah, I get in a bad mood.
joe rogan
It's not good for you.
shane gillis
You gotta walk by and someone's slow.
joe rogan
Oh, God, yeah.
shane gillis
I'm just furious all day.
joe rogan
And people in New York, they behave as if you're not gonna punch them.
They, like, knock into you and talk shit.
I've seen people talk shit to people for no reason on the street.
Like, this is wild.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
And they get punched.
joe rogan
Yeah.
They should get punched.
shane gillis
In New York, they continuously get punched and keep going.
joe rogan
Some guy hit my fucking car with a briefcase once.
And I came that close to stopping the car.
I was coming home from some stupid fucking audition that I didn't want to do, and this dork, this dork in his glasses, and I was in the intersection, and my light was green, and they were all jaywalking, and he just decided to hit my fucking car with his fucking briefcase.
If it wasn't a piece of shit car, I might have brained him.
I was thinking about braining him.
shane gillis
Spinning back heel.
joe rogan
I was just gonna hit the fucking e-brake and just run out and brain him.
shane gillis
Just shut him off.
And no one would do anything.
joe rogan
Back then I could have got away with it too, because this is the 90s.
It wasn't like there was cameras anywhere.
Because his head probably would have bounced off the concrete.
And that would have been a wrap.
That's how people die, dude.
Like, if you're gonna brain someone in the street, you really should kick them in the body.
shane gillis
You hit them with the body.
You gotta body kick them.
joe rogan
Yeah, you really should body kick them.
Because you don't want to kill them.
shane gillis
Yeah.
You don't want them to hurt.
joe rogan
If you kick someone in the head in the street, you very, very likely could kill them.
There's like a two out of ten possibility that you're gonna kill them.
shane gillis
That would get you some respect in prison, though.
You know what I mean?
If they're like, what's he in for?
joe rogan
He hit my fucking car with a briefcase.
shane gillis
I round-housed him and he died.
joe rogan
Oh, shit.
The earth killed him.
I didn't kill him.
I just knocked him out.
shane gillis
You know cum's good for your butt?
I heard it's bad for your butt.
That's what I heard.
I heard it's bad.
joe rogan
I just don't like the level of tension that's involved when there's so many people around.
shane gillis
I mean, it's still here.
It's in Austin.
joe rogan
There's like this attitude.
This urban attitude.
Yeah, it's not that bad here, though.
Dude, there's just not enough people here.
The level, the feeling, why I got here when I first moved here, I was like, oh, this is the right number of people.
It's like a number of people where you can sustain great restaurants, you can sustain a great university, you can sustain a bunch of good businesses.
It's plenty big.
shane gillis
Yeah, it's definitely better than New York as far as...
joe rogan
Oh, God, yeah.
shane gillis
Although I was there yesterday and just...
See the plaza near the Central Park?
It was fucking nice.
I was just walking around.
joe rogan
Dude, I love visiting.
shane gillis
It was very nice.
joe rogan
I love visiting New York.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I got these guys in the Bronx, GNR Deli.
You ever have...
shane gillis
No.
joe rogan
Dude, this is like the best Italian sub I've ever had in my fucking life.
It's called the Bronx Godfather.
We went, and the last time we went for the UFC... These fucking wops are never original.
What are you talking about?
shane gillis
You Italians.
Like, this one's the godfather.
joe rogan
I didn't name it.
shane gillis
You Italians.
joe rogan
My people named it.
But, dude, it's fucking, it's the best food.
It's terrible for you.
These people all look like they're just filled with inflammation.
They're just eating pasta all day.
But goddamn, they look like they're having a great time.
They're having a great time.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're eating.
God bless.
shane gillis
Just grow up, dude.
Just grow up.
joe rogan
Forget about your diet.
This guy always says that.
Forget about your diet.
shane gillis
Then they watch the Yankees not make the playoffs.
joe rogan
Fuck!
Fuck, that's what I wanted.
Come on, look at this guy's subs.
Shut the fuck up.
Tell me that's a chicken cutlet.
Come on, son.
Look at this sandwich.
Look at this.
We're slicing this thing open.
Tell me you're not hungry.
shane gillis
Actually, I am hungry.
joe rogan
Look at these guys.
He's hungry, too.
Look at his face.
He was about to fuck.
That's my friend Tommy.
That's my friend Tommy Jr. I've been friends with that dude for 30 years.
shane gillis
He's about to fuck one of these sandwiches.
You could fuck one of those sandwiches.
joe rogan
You could if you had to.
shane gillis
No problem.
joe rogan
Great people, though.
Fucking the nicest people.
Salted the earth.
And the food is insane.
But I just...
I don't know how we got to that.
What were we talking about?
How did we get to sandwiches?
shane gillis
Living in the city sucks, but I was just in New York.
joe rogan
But they have great food.
New York has the best Italian food.
It's so good.
I fucking love going there.
I love going there.
shane gillis
Yeah.
I wouldn't say I miss New York, but I do.
joe rogan
I like going.
shane gillis
New York rules.
joe rogan
I just don't want to live there.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm too whatever it is.
Whatever it is.
I like wilderness.
I want a ranch.
That's what I want.
I want some place where there's like, I wake up, I see deer and I hear birds chirping and shit.
That's what I like.
shane gillis
It is fun to see deer.
I got a house, my family and we have a house in the Poconos.
joe rogan
Oh, nice.
shane gillis
But those deer are shitty.
They're like scraggly.
They're fucked up deer.
They're always around the house and they're fucking dirty.
joe rogan
They probably have a lot of diseases, too.
shane gillis
You see them and you're like, oh, nice, deer.
And then you see them up close, you're like, oh, no.
joe rogan
There's a thing called CWD, chronic wasting disease.
It's tearing through deer.
Yeah.
And to the point where there's a lot of people that are scared to eat deer in certain places, like in certain spots in Wisconsin.
My buddy Doug Duren, he is a part of this conservation effort to try to, like, mitigate this spread of this disease.
And they're trying to actually shoot more deer.
Because they're trying to lower the population so that there's less of them.
shane gillis
It is funny that hunters, I know it is the correct move, but it's always like, we're going to have to kill more of them.
joe rogan
Sorry, we're going to have to kill more of them.
But they really do in this case because, you know, if you've ever been in the Midwest, the fucking deer are everywhere.
My buddy John Dudley, Owns a hunting farm, okay?
This guy is like one of the best bow hunters on earth.
He teaches archery.
It's a different level.
You know how I opened up the mothership?
Well, this guy developed his deer farm.
It's like one of those type deals.
And there's a few of these guys.
There's another guy named Lee Lakoski.
He has a similar situation.
And they live in Iowa just to hunt deer.
It's a religion, dude.
They have cameras set up all around the property so they can find out when a guy is in the neighborhood.
Because these big bucks are smart.
And they know they're being hunted.
And so most of them go nocturnal.
Until the ladies want to party.
And that's when you get them.
When they wind up, hunting season is during the rut.
shane gillis
You gotta risk it all.
joe rogan
They get so horny that guys have made videos where they walk right up to a deer.
Like this big deer is just standing there in the middle of the woods.
They walk right up to him and touch him and go, hey man, you okay?
shane gillis
No, he's not, dude.
joe rogan
He's so fucked out.
shane gillis
He's as horny as it gets.
joe rogan
He's probably fucked out.
He probably fucked like 30 does that day.
shane gillis
And he's like standing- Fucking kill me.
Kill me, dude.
I'm done.
joe rogan
He's been listening to 30 stupid stories and fucking- And then she said to me, and I was like, you're not going to talk to me like that.
shane gillis
Even you starting to say that, my brain shut off.
And then she said, I was just like...
unidentified
No!
joe rogan
She just went into a dark place!
But there's so many videos of guys walking up to a deer and touching it with an arrow.
Like, hey man, you alright?
Like, what the fuck are you doing here?
And the deer's like, huh?
shane gillis
He's just horny, bro.
joe rogan
They're just so fucked out or so horny that they literally are so confused that they let someone walk right up to them.
Like, that's how much it affects the brain.
And they only get to fuck once a year.
So imagine.
Human beings are like that, but human beings, we can have sex 365 days a year.
Just imagine if all human beings only bred in November.
And so fucking November rolls around and everybody goes crazy.
That's what it's like in the deer world.
shane gillis
It would be war.
unidentified
War!
shane gillis
It would be war every November would be.
joe rogan
It would be horrific.
You'd have to hide your family.
Look at this deer.
During the rut, with his arrow.
Hey, bro.
Look at him.
unidentified
He's like, huh?
Go away, man.
jamie vernon
You need to go sleep it off.
shane gillis
You gotta go to sleep.
joe rogan
He can't even stand.
Look, he's standing cockeyed.
Finally he figured it out.
Finally he snapped out of it and took off.
That is wild, dude.
shane gillis
That's crazy.
joe rogan
That's wild.
That was scary.
And shout out to that dude for not smoking it.
shane gillis
He should have point blanked it.
joe rogan
Because he had a fucking arrow in his hand!
He could have smoked it!
That shows how many hunters are out there that are like that guy.
They're ethical.
Also, that's a little deer.
You don't really want to shoot that deer.
shane gillis
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Let me see that again.
shane gillis
That's a little pumper.
joe rogan
That is a...
Yeah, that's like a one-year-old deer.
See how he has very tiny antlers?
Maybe two.
He might be two years old.
But that's about it.
He's not old.
shane gillis
What the fuck?
joe rogan
But if you were in a place that has low deer population density or low buck density...
Some places, they just shoot any buck, because you can shoot any buck.
Some places have different rules.
They have to have fork tines.
They can't be like stubs.
They can't be what's called a button buck.
What a button buck is.
They're so young, they barely have antlers.
They have this little nub, but they're still a male.
So you're technically allowed to shoot.
I'm a button buck.
You saw me in that ice punch.
That ice punch doesn't count.
That's not fair.
shane gillis
Your dick's gone.
joe rogan
Yeah, 37 degrees for three minutes, your dick's gone.
And with that water flowing too.
shane gillis
I took a shower after.
joe rogan
That one's rougher.
The blue cube, the one we have in the studio, that's the roughest one.
That's the roughest point.
shane gillis
I will say this about cold plunges.
The only thing you do after you do a cold plunge is tell people you took a cold plunge.
joe rogan
You can't shut the fuck up.
shane gillis
I can't shut the fuck up about it.
joe rogan
It's like people get into yoga.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
They can't shut the fuck up.
shane gillis
I understand.
unidentified
Because they feel good.
shane gillis
I've always judged those people.
joe rogan
Me too.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Now every conversation I have is- I've been those people.
I'm in the cold plunge.
joe rogan
I am those people.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I'm those people with almost everything I like.
shane gillis
I get it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's a problem.
shane gillis
Not really.
joe rogan
But that fucking thing is awesome.
shane gillis
I thought you were wrong about the cold plunge.
joe rogan
No, I wouldn't.
shane gillis
Me, Ari, and Mark stuck our fucking, just our hands in the cold plunge to see if we could do 30 seconds.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
And it was like, no, fuck this, I'm never doing it.
joe rogan
Neymar, you did three minutes today.
Look at you, you're a stud now.
shane gillis
No, no, I just needed you standing there going, get in there, bitch!
Get in there, pussy!
And I was like, I'm not a pussy, Joe!
joe rogan
Come on, man, you got in pretty easy.
The first time you did it was rough, but now you're pretty accustomed.
shane gillis
Well, the first time you get in, it sucks the fucking wind down.
joe rogan
You've done it at least, what, eight, nine times now?
How many times you've done it?
shane gillis
Yeah, every time.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah.
shane gillis
I enjoy it.
joe rogan
It's good.
shane gillis
I enjoy being done with it.
joe rogan
How good does it feel when you get out of there?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You feel like you're on the best drug.
shane gillis
Yes.
joe rogan
Like a super manageable drug.
shane gillis
Genuinely feels like Molly.
joe rogan
Like if someone ever wants to borrow money, they need to catch me right when I'm coming out of the sauna.
Right when I'm coming out of the sauna or the cold plunge.
shane gillis
I've also noticed when I get out of it, I can't shut the fuck up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
I get out, I'm just yapping.
joe rogan
Giddy.
You're just giddy.
shane gillis
Yeah.
It's nice.
I haven't been happy in a while, so it's good.
joe rogan
You can be happy every day.
Just get one of those fucking things for your backyard.
We'll hook it up.
unidentified
Maybe.
joe rogan
Dude, you should have one.
Dude.
shane gillis
Well, you're going to have to come over and call me a pussy.
joe rogan
I'll come over.
You're not that far away from me.
shane gillis
Otherwise, I'll never get in there.
joe rogan
You don't live that far away from me.
I will drive over your house before shows, and we'll both do it together.
shane gillis
Call me gay.
joe rogan
Yeah, we'll both do it together.
shane gillis
I'll do it.
joe rogan
It'd be great to do right before a show.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Wake you right up.
And you feel like...
You know that sometimes...
When you have, like, Saturday shows and you're like, fuck, you went out Friday night, and then you slept in the hotel, and you didn't get good sleep because you're not at home, and then you have lunch, and it's not very good for you, whatever the fuck you're eating, and then you're like, okay, it's 6, the show's at 8, fuck.
I gotta wake up.
shane gillis
I usually jack off and take a nap.
joe rogan
That'll work.
It does something.
shane gillis
I don't know if it helps.
I literally wake up 20 minutes before the car's coming, and I'm like, oh, shit.
You forget you're doing a show.
unidentified
Ah!
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you had a cold plunge in your room, just plop in there.
You're on the path to making yourself a better person, Shane.
unidentified
What the fuck?
Do you feel this?
joe rogan
Do you feel this?
You're on a spiritual journey.
shane gillis
No.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Inside joke.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
I am on a spiritual journey right now.
No, yeah, that'd be cool to be better.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, these workouts will help.
All you have to do is just stay consistent.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Stay consistent.
Everybody feels better.
I mean, we were talking about Hassan today.
He's like, God, I feel so much better.
He was saying that he's getting more attractive women hitting him up on dating apps.
I'm like, I don't think it's...
shane gillis
We had to let that.
We had to let that go.
We heard Hassan and Hassan was like, I'm definitely getting stronger.
I'm getting more attractive women on dating sites to respond.
joe rogan
I think it's because of my five workouts.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's awesome, though.
But he does feel better.
He feels better.
More confidence.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
How wild is it that he was doing that Muslim prayer?
So, for people who don't know, our friend Hassan, it's a hilarious comic, works at the mothership.
He can't...
He does not understand Arabic, but he can read it and write it.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Which is like...
So crazy.
He was taught to read it and write it when he was a kid.
And he can recite Muslim prayers, but he doesn't know what they mean.
Which is like, what?
shane gillis
That was clearly just autism.
joe rogan
You think so?
shane gillis
As soon as he said it, I was like, oh shit, now it makes sense.
I've heard you say some wacky shit.
Now I know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
A touch of the tism.
shane gillis
He's got a little, yeah.
joe rogan
A touch of the tism is a superpower.
shane gillis
It certainly is.
joe rogan
I feel like it is.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
I wish I had more.
I like to crank it up by like 2%.
shane gillis
Turn it up a little.
Turn it up.
joe rogan
I have CTE for sure.
shane gillis
I got a little of that.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I must.
I must.
I get hit in the head too many times.
All the things that I know now about people that get hit in the head, I'm like, yeah, it does something.
shane gillis
Yeah, I got hit in the head for like 10 years.
joe rogan
And then I also probably have toxoplasmosis because I used to have a wild cat.
Most likely I got that too.
And I always had cats when I was a kid and they always went out.
Like, cats...
shane gillis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
If you got cats, you're fucking...
shane gillis
You gotta let them out.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
You gotta let them outside.
joe rogan
But they're a bunch of little fucking murderers.
But...
shane gillis
I'm a big fan of that.
joe rogan
I'm a big fan of letting them out, too.
But the thing is, like, you're gonna get toxo.
Like, your cat's gonna get toxo.
And you're probably gonna get it.
shane gillis
Yeah.
What's it do?
joe rogan
It affects your thinking.
Makes you more rational.
More irrational?
Yeah, there's a disproportionate number of motorcycle victims.
Motorcycle crash victims.
shane gillis
You got bit by cats?
joe rogan
That test positive for toxoplasmosis.
They don't know if there's a correlation, but they do think it affects your impulse control.
There's also a disproportionate number of successful soccer teams that come from places that have high levels of toxoplasmosis.
Yeah.
They don't know if that's because there's a lot of really successful soccer teams that come from third world countries and poorer countries.
That's possible too.
But it also might be just it makes you wilder.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like it might like literally possibly could change cultures.
At one point in time, France, 50% of the country tested positive for it.
They're just wild people.
Who's wilder than French?
The French are wild, bro.
Those are some wild people.
shane gillis
I saw Napoleon.
joe rogan
How was it?
shane gillis
I loved it.
joe rogan
You did?
shane gillis
I loved it.
joe rogan
Why do people not like it?
shane gillis
Here's what I think.
I think Ridley Scott made Napoleon like a human.
Well, Joaquin Phoenix did it.
Made him like a human being.
Like, he says dumb shit, he fucks up.
Usually if you're watching a historical movie, you want him to be speaking well the entire time, totally in control.
Yeah, this is a guy that's like...
joe rogan
An actual human.
shane gillis
He's a human the whole time.
But every time they cut to a scene where he's fucking his wife, it's so funny.
It's just him doggy.
All he does is doggy style.
joe rogan
That was his name?
shane gillis
I don't think that's historically accurate.
They just cut to him and Josephine.
It's pretty great.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
So how many sex scenes are in the movie?
shane gillis
There's two that I can definitely remember.
joe rogan
Wow.
shane gillis
And both of them are...
Doggy style.
...hard cut to him doggy style.
joe rogan
Interesting.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
I wonder why.
I wonder when people figured out you could have sex looking at each other.
Because most animals are doggy style.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, all of them, in fact.
shane gillis
I mean...
joe rogan
I would imagine...
shane gillis
I don't want to turn this into some type of freak shit, but I saw a funny video of a gorilla doggy styling another gorilla at the fucking...
It's just kids watching at the zoo.
He's like...
It's funny how human they look when they fuck.
It's so funny.
joe rogan
They have little tiny dicks.
shane gillis
Gorillas?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Chimps have big dicks.
Do you know why?
shane gillis
Why?
joe rogan
Because chimp females are more promiscuous.
Gorillas also have little balls.
This is interesting.
In primates, there's a direct relationship between the number of promiscuous females that are nearby and the size of the male's testicles.
I'm wild.
shane gillis
That's a crazy fact.
joe rogan
That's wild.
shane gillis
That's an interesting fact.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That's why chimps have giant nuts.
Because chimp ladies are wild.
shane gillis
They want big nuts?
joe rogan
Yeah, they want big nuts.
But they need a lot of loads.
They're going to war.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Trying to make babies.
shane gillis
Those guys are having a tough time.
joe rogan
They're having a tough time.
shane gillis
I wouldn't, yeah.
That Chimp Empire shit bugged me out.
I didn't like it.
joe rogan
It's wild.
shane gillis
I liked the dude in the beginning of Chimp Empire, the guy, there's the first scene where they go fight the other colony, and he's like, I'm out of here, this is too much.
And then they catch him, the other colony caught him on the way back and killed him.
joe rogan
Yeah, and killed him.
shane gillis
I respected him just being like, I know you guys are going to make fun of me when we get back.
This is scary, I'm going home.
joe rogan
You can't even join the other team.
shane gillis
They got ripped apart.
joe rogan
At least some armies, even the Mongols, they used to take in other warriors and go, hey, join us.
We're going to have to kill you.
shane gillis
I wonder if chimps ever do that.
joe rogan
Well, something has to happen, right?
Because they do branch off.
They were saying that there was one clan that was a part of another group.
shane gillis
I bet they'd just start fucking the ladies.
joe rogan
What do they call a tribe?
Is it a tribe?
What do they call them?
shane gillis
A troop?
joe rogan
A troop of chimps?
shane gillis
I could be wrong on that one.
unidentified
Jamie, what are you doing over there?
shane gillis
I'm talking about gorillas fucking.
You didn't even bring it up.
jamie vernon
I'm following all along here.
I was looking for doggy style scenes in Napoleon, actually.
shane gillis
Oh, that's good.
I would like to see that.
unidentified
I thought I had something, but I'd lost it.
jamie vernon
Now we're on the new stuff, so I've had to switch.
shane gillis
Could you please find gorillas fucking at the zoo?
joe rogan
What was the other thing?
shane gillis
And then...
joe rogan
Right after Gorillaz.
shane gillis
Troops?
joe rogan
Oh yeah, what is the group?
What are they called?
A tribe?
A clan?
jamie vernon
A group of apes or chimpanzees is a shrewdness.
shane gillis
Whoa.
Yeah, those are fun.
joe rogan
A shrewdness?
shane gillis
That can't be right.
jamie vernon
Yeah, this group is called a shrewdness.
joe rogan
Is that like the British where they spell tire with a Y? Yeah, that's bullshit, dude.
Your tires?
unidentified
Yeah.
Tires with a Y. Oh, baboons are a troop.
joe rogan
Wow, a shrewdness.
Baboons are a troop.
Oh, okay.
Ants are a colony or an army.
Interesting.
That guy Sapolsky, Robert Sapolsky, who did all the research on toxoplasmosis, he was the one I found out about the disproportionate number of motorcycle victims.
He also did some crazy work with baboons.
And one of the things they found, these baboons, they had these really rough Alpha males, like evil, mean, brutal, bully alpha males.
And they were getting food from this resort.
They were getting food from the garbage.
So like hundreds of them would go to the garbage in the resort and tear it apart.
And this one, here we go.
Hey!
unidentified
Look at that.
shane gillis
It's so funny, dude.
joe rogan
Ass on him.
unidentified
Good lord.
It's so funny.
joe rogan
Imagine what kind of deadlifts he could do.
shane gillis
It's so funny.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But look how short his strokes are.
See what I'm saying?
shane gillis
Yeah, been there, brother.
joe rogan
Look at that.
shane gillis
That's exactly how I fuck.
unidentified
That's how you fuck.
shane gillis
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
Nice.
shane gillis
Nice and slow.
Get the fuck out of there, kid.
joe rogan
The child's coming to look.
He's gonna get under there.
Child's gonna tickle his balls.
Look at that.
No rules at all.
The child's gonna get...
That's a baby chimp, man.
That's a baby chimp just going, what are you doing to my mom?
shane gillis
Yes, dude, help!
joe rogan
Push!
Push!
How may I help you push?
shane gillis
I mean, that's...
joe rogan
So, these baboons...
shane gillis
That's not the one I was talking about.
joe rogan
The mean ones got to the garbage first.
It turned out the garbage was poisoned.
Like, the garbage had something in it that was poisoned.
So these chimps died off.
So the alphas died.
And then everybody chilled out.
And so this troop, I guess, of baboons, for like, I think a decade, were like peaceful and cool.
Like it somehow, and then it eventually devolved back to bully alphas that were beating up all the other chimps.
shane gillis
Hey, we're no different.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
World War II, now we've been chilling for a while.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
And all of a sudden there's some...
joe rogan
Well, how long do we chill for?
Up to Vietnam.
unidentified
That...
shane gillis
Barely counts.
joe rogan
What?
shane gillis
Compared to World War II. Right.
joe rogan
But completely unnecessary, whereas World War II was necessary.
shane gillis
Because of an unnecessary start.
joe rogan
What was the unnecessary start of World War II? Hitler taking everything.
Yeah, but like, a lot of it is based on what happened in World War I. Yes.
shane gillis
So World War I... One and two are pretty...
Everything in history is interlinked.
joe rogan
Yeah, and there's not that much time between them either.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
So there's like a regrouping of Germany, and we'll fucking show you.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
What was World War I over?
shane gillis
That's the ultimate dumbest fucking one ever.
What is it over?
Archduke Franz Ferdinand got assassinated in Serbia.
joe rogan
That's right.
shane gillis
And then Serbia...
joe rogan
And the guy, Lucky, ran into him outside of a restaurant.
shane gillis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
He tried to kill him, didn't.
Then his car was parked outside of a restaurant.
He's like, oh!
shane gillis
Yeah, there he is.
joe rogan
There he is.
shane gillis
Yeah.
And then their ally was...
Serbia's ally was Russia.
Austria's ally was Germany.
Germany was like, we're gonna help Austria.
That's why they got blamed.
joe rogan
Wow.
And then the whole world...
shane gillis
And then the whole world, which they were all cousins.
joe rogan
Why did they assassinate that dude?
shane gillis
Because Austria and Serbia, I guess, had a pretty long history of fighting each other.
And he was in Serbia...
Montenegro, was it?
And he...
It was kind of like flaunting it a little.
It was kind of like, you shouldn't be here.
joe rogan
Like when Nancy Pelosi went to Taiwan?
shane gillis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was just like, yeah, I can handle it.
Yeah.
What?
joe rogan
What you gonna do, China?
shane gillis
I could be wrong, though.
I think it was, like, Franz Ferdinand was actually, like, one of the guys in Austria that liked Serbia, and he was one of the guys, like, helping it.
He was, like, an advocate for it.
And then the black hand, and I'm forgetting his fucking name.
He's very important.
The guy who shot him.
joe rogan
I don't remember his name either.
shane gillis
It's embarrassing I don't remember it.
And I hope it's Serbia.
I just am talking.
jamie vernon
I think he was from the Kingdom of Serbia.
This isn't the thing I was looking at.
Didn't have his name.
This doesn't either.
joe rogan
So what happens in Germany during World War I? So World War I was over nothing.
shane gillis
They fought.
Everybody died.
Like millions of people died.
And a lot of times it's just trench warfare where they...
Over the course of four or five years, they gained nothing, lost nothing.
So at the end of the war, when France and Germany and England had to sign this treaty, they were like...
The allies that won were like, oh, we gotta...
We gotta gain something out of this because otherwise our people are gonna kill us.
When we signed this treaty and neither of us, nothing changed, and that was all literally for nothing.
So then they just blamed Germany for everything.
They were like, you guys, you owe France reparations.
Gavrilo Princip.
Got him.
unidentified
So good.
joe rogan
He was 19 years old.
shane gillis
Fucked up the whole world.
unidentified
Wow.
shane gillis
Good job, Gavrilo.
joe rogan
One teenager.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Imagine.
Imagine being one person and so many things happen because of one thing that you do.
A 19-year-old.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, imagine being the CEO of Bud Light.
Imagine being that lady.
It's not the CEO, right?
What was she, like, marketing?
shane gillis
Yeah, that was just the marketing.
joe rogan
Head of marketing, yeah.
Imagine being that lady.
unidentified
He's stuck up in the middle and I... Shit.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
I don't know how comparable that is to Gorilla Prince F. In the business world...
shane gillis
Business world, that was World War I. It's World War I. Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
They didn't know.
They didn't know the capabilities of the weapons.
joe rogan
Right.
shane gillis
Just like, yeah.
joe rogan
Nobody figured out gas yet.
shane gillis
World War I was doing...
joe rogan
Nobody figured out Kid Rock shooting your product.
shane gillis
They were doing...
They were doing cavalry charges into machine guns.
joe rogan
That other picture of me looked pretty handsome.
Go to that picture.
Imagine that guy shoots you.
unidentified
You're like, shit!
shane gillis
Fucking guy.
joe rogan
Great cheekbones.
shane gillis
You ever see Young Stalin?
joe rogan
He looks like Scott Eastwood.
shane gillis
Young Stalin was a babe.
joe rogan
Was he?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Criminal penalty.
20 years imprisonment.
jamie vernon
Three years later.
shane gillis
Yeah, he died.
joe rogan
Wow.
And that motherfucker started it all off.
shane gillis
Damn, he was alive, though, for three years to witness what he did.
That's a tough way.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I wonder if he connected them all.
Clearly.
He had to.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Clearly.
shane gillis
That started it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I bet there's a lot of bragging in the showers.
You know what I did, motherfucker?
shane gillis
I killed everyone.
unidentified
I got everybody killed.
joe rogan
One of my favorite stories from World War I that I've talked about too much is that the Russians and the Germans had a ceasefire to kill wolves.
shane gillis
That's awesome.
I didn't know about that.
joe rogan
They were in Russia and so many of them were getting killed by wolves that they decided to have a ceasefire.
They negotiated a ceasefire to kill wolves.
shane gillis
That's terrifying.
joe rogan
Imagine if you're at trench warfare, and you get shot, and you're screaming, and you're in agony, and then a dog eats you.
And there's 30 wolves tearing your friend apart, and there's nothing you can do.
You jump up, people shoot you.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
And did the wolves just get into the trenches?
shane gillis
World War I seems like the worst.
unidentified
Bro.
shane gillis
Seems like one of the...
Just look at what they were dressed like.
Yeah.
joe rogan
How did they survive the elements?
shane gillis
I don't know.
joe rogan
They had stupid shoes.
shane gillis
They didn't.
joe rogan
Their shoes were so stupid.
They had like shoes that you would wear if you're like walking down the street.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're out in the woods.
shane gillis
They're in the mud for months at a time.
joe rogan
Yeah, show us what they were dressed like.
Their boots were stupid.
Like, everything was stupid.
There's no waterproofing.
There's no nothing.
There's no tactical gear.
You had nothing.
You had fucking cotton shirts on.
shane gillis
That's what Hitler did to his boys.
The guys that went into Russia.
He was like, we're gonna be done by, we don't even need to make winter uniforms for these guys.
joe rogan
With leather-soled shoes.
They didn't even have, like, textured shoe soles back then.
shane gillis
Just guys having fun.
joe rogan
Just a good time.
Trench warfare.
shane gillis
It ain't nothing but a dude.
joe rogan
These fucking guys, man.
Imagine.
Imagine that life.
That dude is taking a nap there.
Just living in hell.
shane gillis
They got some cool art that came out of this from these guys getting fucked up.
You ever see Otto Dicks?
joe rogan
No.
shane gillis
Get some Otto Dicks going, dude.
joe rogan
Go back to that photo again, please.
That photo you just had of those guys.
shane gillis
Are these dough boys?
joe rogan
What are these?
These are Americans?
Look at their little fucking outfits.
Imagine being stuck over there going, what the fuck are we here for?
jamie vernon
There's a gas mask around their neck, right?
joe rogan
Yep.
Yep.
That's when they first started using gas.
Fuck, man.
What a horrific time.
shane gillis
Have you seen All Quiet on the Western Front?
joe rogan
Yes.
shane gillis
I love it.
joe rogan
Oh no, wait a minute, I haven't.
No, that's the new one, right?
shane gillis
Yes, you gotta watch that.
joe rogan
No, I haven't.
shane gillis
You gotta watch that.
It's so good.
joe rogan
You told me about it multiple times.
shane gillis
I love it.
joe rogan
I get bummed out when I watch war movies.
shane gillis
It's the most depressing one I've seen in a while.
joe rogan
Yeah, fuck.
It's so depressing.
I always say I'm gonna do it when I'm like sitting in front of the TV. But when I'm sitting in front of the TV, most of the time I just like to be entertained.
Just show me, I wanna watch fights.
shane gillis
You gotta watch that one.
joe rogan
I get really depressed.
shane gillis
It's bad.
joe rogan
Dude, I get anxiety sometimes in the middle of the night when everyone's asleep.
I get anxiety thinking about the wars.
shane gillis
Yeah, Otto Dix has some good ones.
He got fucked up from that war.
joe rogan
And this is all his work?
Oh my god.
Everybody's all bullet holes and patched together.
Oh wow.
So he was a soldier?
shane gillis
Yeah, I think he's German.
joe rogan
Oh my god, dude.
These are horrific.
Yeah, what did that guy see?
shane gillis
Oh, you ever see...
I don't know how good this is for podcasting, but you gotta look at Goya.
Look at Goya.
Look at his...
Have we ever talked about this on here?
joe rogan
The gas masks are crazy.
shane gillis
Gas masks are scary.
joe rogan
Because that's the first time they ever experienced gas attacks.
shane gillis
Goya...
That was actually, those were the Napoleonic Wars.
He was a Spanish guy.
joe rogan
Oh, God, look at all those bodies.
shane gillis
But then he got dark, dude.
He got into some scary stuff.
joe rogan
Oh, geez, some Satan shit.
shane gillis
Yeah.
Allegedly, his last paintings were...
unidentified
Whoa.
shane gillis
So they're called the black paintings?
joe rogan
Bro, can you imagine being alive the first time they start using gas?
shane gillis
No.
That would be a bummer.
joe rogan
Like they just got giant fans and they're spraying deadly gas towards you.
Oh God, look at his stuff, man.
Oh my God.
shane gillis
That's not Goya.
joe rogan
Yeah, it says it is.
Francisco Goya.
shane gillis
No, he did Saturn.
joe rogan
Birth of Saturn's Sun painting.
shane gillis
Oh.
joe rogan
God, look at that.
That's horrifying.
He's eating a baby.
shane gillis
He did Saturn Devouring His Sun.
joe rogan
Well, I think that's what's happening right there.
shane gillis
That's not the real one.
joe rogan
It's a different one?
shane gillis
Yeah, that's the one.
joe rogan
Oh, God!
Way worse.
Oh, my God!
Jamie, go to that one, the bigger one, in the left-hand corner.
Left-hand corner of that.
Keep going.
No, no, no.
Back.
The one below it to the left.
That's it.
Go to that one right there.
Look at that.
That's so horrifying.
shane gillis
Yeah.
Goya has some cool ones.
joe rogan
Eating a baby.
What the fuck, man?
And that's like a valuable painting.
Someone could have that in their home.
This is a Goya.
shane gillis
It's worth five billion dollars.
joe rogan
How much is that worth, that Goya?
shane gillis
Saturn devouring his son.
joe rogan
A lot of Satanist money out there.
shane gillis
I think that was in...
What's that movie about Greed is Good?
What's that called?
joe rogan
Wall Street?
unidentified
Wall Street.
joe rogan
Oh, he had a Goya?
unidentified
Wall Street.
The easiest.
joe rogan
No, the original Wall Street.
Not Wolf Wall Street.
The original one, Greed is Good.
shane gillis
Wall Street, I think he had that in his office.
joe rogan
My favorite scene in that movie is Michael Douglas walking down the beach with that brick phone like he was a pimp.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Those brick phones were the shit back then.
Oh my god, he's talking to someone.
jamie vernon
It says his most valuable work was sold for 7.5 and that one would be much more valuable.
unidentified
Wow!
joe rogan
It's more valuable?
Why don't they sell it?
shane gillis
Maybe they don't want to sell it.
joe rogan
Imagine wanting that in your house.
shane gillis
I have some Goyas.
joe rogan
Do you?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
For real?
shane gillis
Yeah, I got the he-goat talking.
Prince.
joe rogan
Prince.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
I'm like, what are you doing?
shane gillis
No, no.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I have 48 billion dollars worth of art.
joe rogan
Killian Keyes movie to buy art.
shane gillis
Killian Keyes money.
I saw those.
There's a museum, I forget, it was Sofia Reina maybe in Madrid and I was at it and they have what's called his dark paintings or black paintings, I forget.
But apparently Goya lost his mind and all these paintings were from in his own house on the walls.
Like that was painted, that wasn't on a canvas.
That was on his wall that he did by himself.
He lost his mind.
He would paint at night with candles on his head.
Like a chandelier of candles on his head.
He painted satanic shit.
I think they've said that this was a legend, but I'm not sure.
joe rogan
I want to believe it.
shane gillis
It's awesome.
You see those paintings, you're like, holy...
joe rogan
It seems like a guy would be...
shane gillis
It's a goat talking to witches.
You're like, holy shit.
joe rogan
A guy eating a baby?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Pretty cool.
joe rogan
That seems like something someone who would have a fucking candle...
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
...chandelier on their head.
unidentified
He...
jamie vernon
He was 72 when he moved into the house.
unidentified
Whoa.
jamie vernon
Some guy took all...
Hacked off...
I mean, quotes, hacked off all of the murals from the wall and attached them to canvas, and they're now in that museum.
shane gillis
Yeah.
jamie vernon
Wow.
joe rogan
So he sawed them off the wall.
shane gillis
He was...
He saw...
joe rogan
That'd be even more valuable.
shane gillis
Yeah, it's pretty awesome.
joe rogan
A chunk of his wall too?
shane gillis
Imagine walking into that house.
joe rogan
Bro, what was going on in his mind?
shane gillis
One of the greatest artists?
Well, he saw, like, war.
Horrors?
Yeah, he saw a fucked up war.
joe rogan
The most close combat, bullet-type war you could get into.
Trench warfare.
shane gillis
No, no, no.
This is Napoleonic Wars.
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
shane gillis
This is old Spain, where he saw, like...
joe rogan
Oh, swords and shit, cannonballs.
shane gillis
And, like, atrocities.
Yeah, yeah.
They were killing civilians.
They were...
unidentified
Yeah, he drew all of them.
joe rogan
I mean, what does that do to your mind?
shane gillis
Yeah, you end up painting a fucking goat.
joe rogan
What if you have a child?
Like, what if you come back from war and you have these horrific visions?
You see these horrible, horrible things.
Do you think...
Any of that gets transferred into your child's bank of memory.
shane gillis
I think there's a lot of that going on.
Yeah, there's some studies on that, like trauma.
joe rogan
Generational trauma.
shane gillis
Yeah.
McCusker was just talking to me about it.
joe rogan
Well, it seems real if you think about some things that kids are scared of, right?
Like, what are kids scared of?
They're all scared of monsters.
Yeah.
Even if they live in a place...
shane gillis
You're naturally afraid of snakes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Unless you're...
joe rogan
Unless you're a fucking psycho.
Yeah.
It's built in.
It's built in.
It's like it's in the memory bank somewhere.
So it's probably difficult to discern how much, but there's probably some kind of information that gets into someone's Their cells, their DNA, their very essence that gets transferred into the kid.
Which is wild.
Because if you have a kid and you experience that...
Yeah.
God damn.
Those paintings are fucking hard.
shane gillis
Those paintings rule.
And he started as like a royal painter.
Back then they would just like...
If you were a good painter, the royal court would hire you to do portraits and shit.
joe rogan
Until he was just a really good painter.
shane gillis
And he was one of the greats.
And then, yeah, he lost his mind.
joe rogan
He just all started getting into satanic shit.
Pretty sick.
I can't imagine seeing that much horror.
You probably believe Satan's 100% real.
shane gillis
For sure.
joe rogan
How could it not be real?
shane gillis
I mean, he watched priests get killed.
joe rogan
Yeah, babies get killed.
Women get slaughtered.
shane gillis
If we're looking these up, Goya's...
Fuck.
He's got, like, just war sketches.
I forget the name of the collection.
But he would just pencil, sketch what he saw.
And it's, like, dude's, like, body parts placed in a tree because the French were trying to send a message.
Spain's fucked up.
Spain's always been fucked up.
Spanish Civil War's cool.
joe rogan
What about that story from the Roman Empire?
I forget the details of it, but they put people on stakes like every hundred yards for like seven miles.
Something fucking insane like that.
shane gillis
Yeah, they would crucify people like that.
They would crucify...
joe rogan
But they did it for like miles.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
So that as you're on your way...
shane gillis
You're like, alright, don't steal.
joe rogan
This is what you're gonna have to deal with if you fuck off.
I don't think it's a steal thing.
I think it's like an army thing.
Romans crucified 6,000 people along a 120-mile stretch of road between Rome and Capua.
People were traveling for days along a major trade route seeing a new person crucified every 100 feet.
100 feet, not 100 yards, sorry.
100 feet.
shane gillis
Holy fuck.
joe rogan
6,000 people.
Dude.
Dude.
But you know, that's like the origins of the Dracula story.
shane gillis
Was that Spartacus?
joe rogan
The Gladiator War.
The War of Spartacus.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Lasts a series of slave rebellions against the Roman Republic known as the Servo Wars.
This third rebellion was the only one that directly threatened the Roman heartland of Italy.
It was particularly alarming to Rome because its military seemed powerless to suppress it.
Wow.
They killed 6,000 people.
shane gillis
Damn, 70 gladiators broke out from the gladiator school?
joe rogan
Wow.
shane gillis
That's pretty neat.
joe rogan
They easily defeated the small Roman force sent to recapture them.
And within two years, they had been joined by some 120,000 men, women, and children.
The able-bodied adults of this large group were a surprisingly effective armed force that repeatedly showed they could withstand or defeat the Roman military...
From the local Campanian patrols to the Roman militia and even to trained Roman legions under the Consular Command.
This army of slaves roamed across Italy, raiding estates and towns with relative impunity, sometimes dividing into separate but connected bands with several leaders, including the famous former gladiator Spartacus.
Holy shit, dude.
Makes sense, though.
You got these dudes fighting you with swords.
shane gillis
Yeah, you train them how to use swords.
joe rogan
And then they get out.
They're going to fuck you up.
shane gillis
Yeah, they're going to go wild.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
That must have been crazy times, man.
Crazy times.
shane gillis
Yes.
joe rogan
And back then, like, you had to, like, hear someone tell you what was going on over there.
shane gillis
Yeah, just bullshit.
joe rogan
What's going on over there?
shane gillis
It's always wrong.
joe rogan
No photos.
You have to look at sketches.
Like, this is what it looks like.
shane gillis
That motherfucker Spartacus got out?
joe rogan
He's out?
shane gillis
God damn, that's a problem.
joe rogan
You got a picture of him?
shane gillis
Think if the NFL was like, they're not allowed out.
joe rogan
Right.
shane gillis
And then you're like, god damn, Christian McCaffrey broke out?
joe rogan
And they fight with swords.
How far are we away from sword fighting on TV? If we have slap fighting, just like one nuclear bomb has to go off, and then you could have the ultimate sword fighting championships?
shane gillis
I mean...
I think to witness a sword fight would be so horrific.
joe rogan
Imagine, though, if the winner got $100 million.
Do you know how many trailer park dudes would step in to a sword fight for $100 million?
shane gillis
I think after witnessing the first bout, everyone would go, oh, no.
joe rogan
I think not.
I bet them bull riders would get involved.
Then you'd have a real problem.
shane gillis
I think getting killed is true.
Yeah, oh yeah, they're doing this shit Roger's already after.
joe rogan
M1. But this is different.
They're wearing armor.
But they do beat the fuck out of each other.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's pretty wild.
But I don't think anybody's dying.
And they actually wind up doing MMA with each other.
Which I would kind of think, if you're really good at MMA, I would kind of like fake the sword.
shane gillis
Yeah, just take the...
joe rogan
shoot the legs.
I would use that fucking...
that bitch-ass shield that they have, and I would rush him.
I'd rush him and then just trip this guy, pull his helmet off and beat him to death.
jamie vernon
So in a sword fight that you're saying to say, like, is there no MMA allowed?
Is it just...
joe rogan
Well, it seems like they're clinching, though.
They kick each other.
See, look, he kicked him.
He kicked his inside leg.
Yeah, and he's got shin pads on, too.
unidentified
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Really kick hard.
He got popped in the head.
Yeah, he got popped in the head with a sword.
Look at you.
See Nito in the nuts?
Like, you can get away with some stuff in this.
shane gillis
Look at these mountains in the back.
This is awesome.
joe rogan
It's pretty wild that they have these kind of fights.
These guys are getting tired, too.
jamie vernon
Here's the highlight.
unidentified
See, they go to the ground.
joe rogan
They go to the ground.
If you go to the ground like that, let go of your fucking sword and take his back.
See, this guy's on top.
This guy knows what he's doing.
unidentified
He's dropping some fucking shield strikes to him.
jamie vernon
That guy gave up.
joe rogan
Yeah, see, good move by that guy.
Let go of the sword.
It's not effective.
The guy's covered in armor.
How long before they're not?
How long before it's two dudes in their underwear with a samurai sword?
jamie vernon
One sword, they have to fight over it?
Wow.
Like an Oklahoma drill?
joe rogan
Wow.
That's so wild.
shane gillis
We can't.
joe rogan
They would just get sprinters.
Sprinters would be the first person to get the sword.
I'm not...
Look, it happened before.
It's happened in history before.
For sure.
People fought sword fights.
Do you not think there's someone out there who's thinking about fighting a sword fight right now?
shane gillis
I think there's tons of dudes with swords.
joe rogan
There's a dude right now with a rock and a sword.
shane gillis
He's probably listening to this.
Statistically, there's a guy listening to this right now with holding a sword.
joe rogan
Holding a sword right now.
Currently holding.
Out of all our listeners, there's 1,000 who have a sword.
jamie vernon
How different from fencing is it then?
joe rogan
Right.
jamie vernon
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
Fencing is just the gentleman's way of poking each other with a sword.
But it's still a fucking sword fight, man.
unidentified
Yeah, but these are just dorks.
shane gillis
Fencing might be the fucking lamest shit ever.
joe rogan
It's hard to do.
It involves a lot of technique.
You get fucked up.
shane gillis
No shit.
I'm not saying they're lame because I'm better.
I could never do that.
joe rogan
It's just lame to do it.
Yeah.
Well, especially now with all the bullets and everything.
shane gillis
Bullets are better than swords.
joe rogan
It's way better.
It's way better.
That's what held back the Japanese.
You know, the Samurais were very reluctant to get involved with guns.
They're like, come on.
This bitch-ass shit?
We got arrows already.
Fight like a man.
And that didn't work out so well.
No.
shane gillis
They ran into cannons.
joe rogan
They were the first people to hold off the Mongols.
The samurai were the first people to hold off the Mongols.
shane gillis
Did they get hit with a wave?
joe rogan
Did they get hit with a little bit of a wave?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
They were unsuccessful though.
Samurais fought them off.
I mean, that is a wild culture.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
A war-like island.
In the Pacific, with some of the greatest martial arts inventions of all time coming from this one place.
Judo, karate, so much came from that place.
Different styles of karate.
shane gillis
Yeah, they got rowdy.
joe rogan
Kendo.
shane gillis
Japan got rowdy.
joe rogan
Yeah, they got rowdy.
shane gillis
Yeah, they did have the drip severe.
joe rogan
Look at that drip.
We got one of those.
You've seen that one that we have?
shane gillis
Yes.
joe rogan
We have a real one.
That's a real one from the 1800s.
shane gillis
Samurai might have the best drip.
joe rogan
Yeah, they had good drip.
They look dope.
shane gillis
When I was a kid?
I gotta piss.
joe rogan
Tremendously.
shane gillis
Let's pause right here.
joe rogan
Samurai.
Oh, there was an African samurai in Japan.
Of course.
unidentified
I bet he ran.
shane gillis
See when they wrote that article.
Within the last three years.
Back on Samurai?
joe rogan
Black Samurai.
jamie vernon
So...
shane gillis
Black Samurai.
jamie vernon
Yasuke is this guy's name.
joe rogan
He's a man of African origin.
He came to Japan in the Sengoku period and became a retainer in the household of Oda Nobunaga.
He was employed by the Japanese Sengoku...
Oh, I can't even say all that shit.
Try that one.
unidentified
Dayamo Oda Nobunaga.
joe rogan
And served as a kosho, page, or sword bearer.
He was neither a menial nor an indentured servant, but a retainer who was given a stipend by Nobunaga.
jamie vernon
So that guy, Nobunaga, was the most powerful man in Japan.
And Yasuke, I think is his name, came over from a group from Italy, actually.
unidentified
Hmm.
jamie vernon
And spent some time there, wanted to go visit that guy, and then this is the part I thought was interesting here.
It's like a description of their meeting right here.
joe rogan
Okay.
He appears to be 26 or 27 years old.
The blackness of his body is like that of a bull, and he is healthy and of fine physique.
Moreover, he has the strength of more than 10 men.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
The Padres came with him and thanked Lord Nobunaga for his permission to proselytize.
Seeing a black man for the first time refused to believe that his skin color was natural and not applied later and made him remove his clothes from the belt upwards.
Valignano describes how Nobunaga, thinking that he might have ink on his body, made him take off his clothes and wash his body, but the more he washed and scrubbed, the darker his skin became.
Huh.
jamie vernon
And so then he hung out, and it says he took them around Japan for like a year, doing feats of strength and stuff.
But he didn't speak any Chinese.
joe rogan
He was also given a short sword.
He was given a short sword and a house.
He was sometimes made to carry Nobunaga-sama's tools.
So, interesting.
unidentified
Alright.
joe rogan
What the fuck were we just talking about before this?
There was something else.
jamie vernon
Japan War?
unidentified
Fuck.
jamie vernon
Samurais?
joe rogan
Nope.
I lost it.
jamie vernon
God damn it.
joe rogan
It was interesting though.
jamie vernon
Napoleon?
joe rogan
Nope.
unidentified
Napoleon rules.
joe rogan
I give up.
I'm not going to find it.
It's in my head somewhere.
Fuck.
God damn it.
I hate when that happens.
Yeah.
But when you go off on these tangents.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
jamie vernon
Oh.
joe rogan
What?
jamie vernon
The NCAA stuff?
joe rogan
Oh, no, it's not real.
unidentified
Okay.
joe rogan
No.
That was the...
shane gillis
Fake news.
joe rogan
Yeah, it was fake news.
But what's real news is the 15 and under...
shane gillis
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
...team destroying the women's national team in soccer.
shane gillis
Bro.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
shane gillis
I got in such a battle over that.
So I was doing a comedy festival when that happened in Atlanta.
And I was in the green room, and I was already out of place.
Like, I was sitting next to somebody that was describing...
The benefits of polyamory.
joe rogan
This is a comedy club?
shane gillis
Yeah, a comedy festival.
And I was drunk enough to be like, yo.
joe rogan
F.C. Dow under 15. Under 15. Boys squad beat the U.S. women's national team in a scrimmage.
Matches in preparation for Thursdays, US WNT friendly versus Russia.
Wow.
So, boy.
shane gillis
While we're 5-2, sitting there discussing, that's actually a different one.
5-2, there was another time they played them and lost like 8-1.
But, regardless.
joe rogan
So what happened?
shane gillis
Sitting in the screen room, this guy's describing to me how the benefits of being polyamorous...
joe rogan
This is a comic?
shane gillis
Yeah, they were all comics.
I mean, it was a comedy festival, so we're all...
Yeah, it was an open mic.
Did you watch their act?
I... probably, but I was...
joe rogan
Oh, so you're just starting.
shane gillis
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
How many years in a comedy were you at this point?
shane gillis
Uh, five.
joe rogan
Okay.
shane gillis
But we're back there, and I was like, this was before I knew you weren't allowed to be like, that's dumb.
So he was like, polyamory.
I was like, you know that's dumb, what you're saying?
Like, that's fucking crazy what you're saying?
And then while we're talking, this girl walks in, she's got her phone, and she's like, oh, the men's team lost again, but still get paid more than the women.
And I was like, well, yeah, they've...
joe rogan
More people watch it.
shane gillis
Yeah, that's...
They're better at soccer.
Who's better at their job?
They're better.
And then that started an argument, and she's like, how do you know?
And I was like, the slowest, worst guy on the men's team would literally be the greatest...
What are you talking...
unidentified
I was like, you understand this.
shane gillis
She was like, no, you tell me.
And then I was like, I'm sure they've scrimmaged at some point.
I googled it, and it was like, they played the under-15 team and lost 8-0.
And I was like...
They did it.
And she's like, you fucking...
joe rogan
She's rat you for truth?
What'd she call you?
shane gillis
Probably like a...
Well, actually, probably just like a dickhead.
And then probably when I got canceled, she was like, yeah.
I knew that guy was a dickhead.
I'll give her credit.
I was probably being a dickhead.
joe rogan
But you probably...
She deserved...
That's nonsense talk.
That whole, why don't the women get paid more?
I heard that argument even about comics.
unidentified
Like, shut the fuck up.
joe rogan
Listen, if you're Taylor Swift, you get paid.
You get fucking paid.
There's no guys out there saying, how come there's not a male Taylor Swift?
But there's women out there that will say that about male comics that are killing it.
Why don't the women get that much?
Why don't people of Polynesian descent get a check like that?
How come no one from Iceland is getting paid?
Shut the fuck up!
shane gillis
Yeah, that's not how it works.
joe rogan
That's not how it works.
Taylor Swift is Taylor Swift.
shane gillis
Yeah, isn't it Taylor Swift and Beyonce?
joe rogan
Obviously, being a woman is not holding her back in the slightest.
shane gillis
I think those are the two acts, Taylor Swift and Beyonce.
joe rogan
The biggest acts in the world.
shane gillis
I don't think anyone comes close.
joe rogan
No one comes close to Taylor Swift.
shane gillis
I think Beyonce does.
joe rogan
She does?
unidentified
I think.
joe rogan
She's in the neighborhood?
I bet it.
I bet she does.
Both of them.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's say both of them.
They're selling out stadiums.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Fucking arena.
Arena.
They would have to do it like a comedy club.
They'd have to treat an arena.
They'd have to treat the T-Mobile Center in Vegas like a comedy club.
shane gillis
Well, yeah.
joe rogan
If Taylor Swift- Two shows a night, Tuesday through Thursday.
shane gillis
She'd have to do a decade.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
For real.
She would have to do a decade.
joe rogan
She literally doesn't...
It's not possible to have enough tickets for all the people that want to see her.
shane gillis
Yeah.
Is there a male act that's even close?
joe rogan
No.
No.
Kanye probably before all that shit went down.
shane gillis
I don't think he was close.
joe rogan
No, he was not that big.
No.
But she wasn't that big back then either, right?
shane gillis
Yeah.
But he made that bitch famous.
joe rogan
Oh my god, he did.
He fucked up.
I made that bitch famous.
He fucked up.
unidentified
He fucked up.
joe rogan
He did.
shane gillis
He rules.
joe rogan
He does rule.
He does rule.
He says a lot of wild shit.
shane gillis
He's having fun.
joe rogan
I hope so.
shane gillis
Well, no, no.
joe rogan
I bet his new album's gonna be a fucking banger.
Yeah, the last one was.
But you push that dude in a corner, I bet he comes out swinging.
I bet this new shit is a banger.
shane gillis
Yeah, he's the best.
joe rogan
Isn't he in like...
Saudi Arabia or something, recording it?
shane gillis
I know he was definitely in Italy getting his dick sucked on a boat for a little.
joe rogan
A little bit of that.
But then he was in Japan?
I think he's recording at least part of it in the Middle East.
shane gillis
He might be Sasuke or whatever that guy's name was.
I think he's in Japan.
joe rogan
Makes sense.
It's crazy, though.
Adidas lost billions of dollars to not be in business with them.
shane gillis
Didn't they take it back?
joe rogan
Nope.
Nope.
They just sold their remaining stock.
shane gillis
I'm pretty sure.
joe rogan
I don't think they went back to business together.
shane gillis
I think when you lose money like that, you go, oh, our bad.
But that is a rough look for Adidas.
joe rogan
It's a rough look for everybody, but Adidas was literally founded by Nazis.
shane gillis
Yeah, that's what I mean.
They gotta be like, no, we got nothing to do with this.
We don't have shit to do with this.
joe rogan
That was then, and this is now, and we are not those people.
shane gillis
Can you imagine being the fucking CEO of Adidas and seeing that clip?
Him just like, I love Hitler.
joe rogan
Oh, no.
shane gillis
Fuck, dude.
joe rogan
Fuck.
He was trying to say he loves everybody, right?
shane gillis
Yeah, I think that was the message, but boy, it got a little murky.
joe rogan
Well, he gets murky.
unidentified
He gets a little murky.
joe rogan
He gets murky all the time.
Do you remember that time he sat down in the Oval Office with Trump, and he was just rattling off craziness, and Trump's like, hmm.
unidentified
Hmm.
joe rogan
Trump is so smart with that stuff.
He just lets people go.
With other people, he would shut the fuck up.
If Chris Christie was in there saying all that nonsense, he'd be like, what are you talking about?
shane gillis
Get out of here.
Yeah.
joe rogan
But with Kanye, he's like, this guy's on my side.
shane gillis
Let him go.
Let him go.
I mean, we can talk Kanye all day.
I love Kanye.
joe rogan
I love Kanye.
shane gillis
Kanye had probably my favorite music video.
It was him and Lil Pump.
You're such a fucking hoe.
joe rogan
I love it.
Mmm, that's right.
shane gillis
It's a very funny music video.
joe rogan
And they had those crazy fucking suits on.
shane gillis
Yeah, those dumbass suits.
They're just having fun.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
Then they did it live on SNL.
joe rogan
Let me hear this.
unidentified
Isn't that...
She's a comic.
shane gillis
That lady?
joe rogan
Yeah.
jamie vernon
The thing he did with that song where he's just making a bunch of noise was pretty funny.
shane gillis
Skibbity bop, poop, skip, poop.
jamie vernon
You know the story behind it?
shane gillis
Yeah, with him and Drake?
jamie vernon
It's supposed to be a Drake song.
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
And Drake wanted it, and Kanye was like, yeah, guess what?
Nope.
shane gillis
So he made a beat and a great song for Drake, and then he released it a couple days later of just him going like, skibbity bop, poop, skip, poop, poop.
He just ruined it.
He just ruined the whole track.
joe rogan
Ah!
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
We play this one song in the green room when we really want to get things popping.
The I'm going to jail song.
Trying to find it, Jamie.
I'll send it to you.
shane gillis
Oh, I know that song.
joe rogan
Yeah, you know that song.
unidentified
Guess who's going to jail tonight?
joe rogan
Guess I'm going to jail.
God damn, that song rocks.
Yeah.
Jail.
It's just called Jail.
unidentified
Jail.
joe rogan
This is it.
This is one of them Green Room songs.
shane gillis
It's fun.
joe rogan
Fuck yeah.
shane gillis
Hearing this?
Hearing Yeah Go Wild?
joe rogan
Come on.
unidentified
This is a bad motherfucker, man.
joe rogan
I mean, you gotta let a guy like this get out of line every now and again.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what makes him so brilliant.
He's got a tornado going on in his mind.
There's a tornado in there at any given time.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bro, when he was doing the podcast, unfortunately, Jamie got COVID, so he couldn't be here for it.
But you know what he wanted to do?
What Kanye wanted to do, he didn't like my set.
It was my old set.
Keep it going.
He didn't like my old set, so he wanted to build a set, do the podcast.
shane gillis
I thought you were talking about stand-up.
I was like, God damn.
joe rogan
He wanted to build a set.
So I said, what do you want to do?
We're on FaceTime.
I go, what do you want to do?
He goes, I want to build a womb.
I want to do the podcast in a womb.
I said, let's go.
I go, let's do it.
No problem.
unidentified
Let's do it.
joe rogan
Okay, build a womb.
And so that was the plan.
And then Jamie got COVID. Fucked it all up.
unidentified
Jamie...
joe rogan
And then I told him, I go, listen, my producer got COVID. Do you mind just doing it at my studio so I get someone to come in and sub for him?
Red Band came in, sub for him.
It's like, really, the womb thing.
jamie vernon
You don't think I would have gone?
It was COVID keeping me out of there.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's just COVID. And it was back when COVID was actually COVID. We worried Jamie was going to die.
jamie vernon
Everyone thought I was going to die.
I was stuck in a room for a week.
joe rogan
Oh, damn.
It wasn't allowed to have contact with people.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The rough days.
The dark days.
shane gillis
I was in New York with roommates.
With male roommates.
And I got COVID. And they didn't have it.
And they were just like...
joe rogan
Terrified of you.
shane gillis
No, no.
They didn't give a fuck.
unidentified
Really?
shane gillis
It was Chris and Tommy.
You know Chris and Tommy.
joe rogan
Wild people.
shane gillis
They were literally like, yeah, I don't care.
We stayed in the same apartment the entire time.
joe rogan
And they never got it?
shane gillis
No one got it.
joe rogan
That's crazy.
Yeah.
How much did you guys make out?
unidentified
That's funny.
After a couple days, I got my energy back.
joe rogan
We started making out again.
Yeah, my whole family got it, and I didn't get it.
But I felt it.
I was working out.
And when I was working out, I was like, I'm fighting something off.
100%.
I could feel it.
I was doing my kettlebell routine.
And I was like, ooh.
So I switched to 35 pounds.
And I said, I'm just going to do one set of each movement.
shane gillis
Keep the A going, dude.
This is literally art.
We're talking about COVID kettlebells and playing A. Come on.
Let's go.
unidentified
Who gonna post my bell?
Lord, help me.
shane gillis
He made a song, Kanye made a song with Andre 3000. Fuck, I forget the name of it.
unidentified
This is Jay-Z. No, this is Jay-Z, yeah.
He also made a song with Paul McCartney and didn't tell him.
shane gillis
Didn't tell him?
jamie vernon
I don't think he knew.
joe rogan
Paul McCartney didn't know?
jamie vernon
I don't think he knew he was going to use it as a song, yeah.
joe rogan
What do you think he's recording?
unidentified
I just don't think that they...
jamie vernon
I don't know.
I don't know the full story, but...
unidentified
Can he come back like Bud Light?
Yes.
Yeah?
shane gillis
Yeah.
Just gonna take one album.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
I think everybody's already back, like...
joe rogan
Well, also, what better time to be mad at Juice?
That's a good point.
unidentified
True joke.
I'm gonna be honest with you.
joe rogan
You're making a good point.
I mean...
unidentified
Because he's going to jail tonight.
joe rogan
Culturally?
unidentified
What's the song he made with Andre 3000?
joe rogan
This fucking song...
shane gillis
This is great.
joe rogan
This is an amazing song.
shane gillis
The one he made with Andre 3000, it's literally like...
jamie vernon
Life of the Party?
shane gillis
Life of the Party is like...
It's actually like...
I don't want to sound too gay.
It's like genuinely beautiful.
It starts out with like...
I think it might end with DMX talking to his kid.
joe rogan
Jamie, do me a favor.
Play the glory.
Break Kanye the glory.
shane gillis
Now we're doing a podcast.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's go.
unidentified
Drinking.
shane gillis
Playing music.
joe rogan
Listen to this one.
This is another one that I got in the green room.
unidentified
Can I talk my shit again?
joe rogan
Oh my god, that's a good one.
Can I talk my shit again?
unidentified
Even if I don't hit again?
Dog, are you fucking kidding?
My hat, my shoes, my coat, Louis Vuitton's I mean, think of R. Kelly, think of Michael Jackson, what they've been forgiven for because of how great their music was.
joe rogan
I don't think R. Kelly's been forgiven.
He's in jail currently.
unidentified
I'm not talking legally.
I'm talking R. Kelly rules, dude.
Well, he rules in our green room.
Yeah, that's all we listen to.
It's just R. Kelly.
You hit one.
Alright, never mind.
It's too gay.
It's too gay.
joe rogan
Real talk came on in the fucking gym and we were dancing.
We started dancing.
shane gillis
No, you started dancing.
It was just right after you.
joe rogan
Alright, whatever.
Right after what?
shane gillis
You took your shirt off as the fucking song hit and you started dancing to real talk.
joe rogan
Do-do-do-do-do-do.
You heard me talking to who?
unidentified
Is it bitch?
I was at the club.
What?
We can't.
Jamie, we can't.
We can.
joe rogan
Keep it going.
Give me some.
Look, he's pouring himself a little drink.
He's got his stogies.
unidentified
Calm down, bitch.
I was at a club with who?
Get the fuck out of here.
Girl, I'm not about to sit up here and argue with you about who's to blame or call no names.
We'll talk to you, girl.
Only thing I'm trying to establish with you is not who's right or who's wrong.
What's right and what's wrong with real talk?
Just because your friends say she saw me at a club with some other bitches.
All Midwest.
joe rogan
Is he?
unidentified
All Midwest.
shane gillis
All these guys are Midwest.
This is Chicago.
unidentified
Yay, Chicago.
MJ's Indiana.
shane gillis
Midwest.
jamie vernon
Richard Pryor.
shane gillis
Yeah, Gary Indiana's Pryor.
They're producing some wild bros.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
Oh, where...
unidentified
Chief Keefe?
joe rogan
It's a wild bro.
Where was Kinnison born?
shane gillis
Midwest might rule.
jamie vernon
Yakima, Washington?
joe rogan
Really?
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
That place sucks.
unidentified
That's how you end up fucking wearing a Jeffcat to the side.
I don't know.
shane gillis
Maybe Yakima.
joe rogan
I'm sorry Yakima.
Maybe you guys are awesome.
I'm just fucking around.
That's a guy that I- But his family was from fucking Illinois.
Moved to Chicago!
unidentified
East Peoria!
shane gillis
They produced insane people.
joe rogan
That's why I thought that!
East Peoria, that's why, because it's the same area fucking Pryor came from, man.
shane gillis
Yeah, they produced some insane people.
joe rogan
It's crazy!
So he was how old when he moved there?
jamie vernon
Three months old.
joe rogan
Okay, yeah, that's like...
I mean, I kind of claim Boston, and I didn't move there until I was 13. Yeah.
I don't know.
unidentified
I cleaned Philly.
shane gillis
I moved there when I was like 28. Where were you born?
unidentified
Harrisburg.
joe rogan
Oh, that's kind of...
Mechanicsburg, PA. My parents used to live there, I told you that.
shane gillis
Yeah, that's fucking crazy.
Your parents lived in fucking Harrisburg.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Yeah, they liked it.
shane gillis
Harrisburg's nice.
joe rogan
It's not, you know, it's rural.
shane gillis
Three Mile Island cost us a lot of people.
A lot of people left.
joe rogan
Three Mile Island's in that area?
I didn't know that.
shane gillis
Yeah, Three Mile Island's where I'm from.
joe rogan
Why did I think Three Mile Island was in Long Island or something?
shane gillis
Makes sense.
Long Island?
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't think I ever knew where it is.
Three Mile Island is Pennsylvania.
shane gillis
Three Mile Island is in Middletown, Pennsylvania, I think.
joe rogan
Wow.
shane gillis
But it's Harrisburg.
joe rogan
Bro, Pennsylvania, in my head, doing stand-up in Pennsylvania...
shane gillis
Mechanics were going on the map, dude.
It makes me happy.
joe rogan
My memory of how I got into conspiracy theories...
shane gillis
Was what?
joe rogan
Was in Pennsylvania when I was on the road.
shane gillis
What happened?
joe rogan
A friend of mine was buddies with this dude who was in a band.
And we were all out.
We're talking.
He starts talking to me about the JFK assassination.
I'm like, so what really happened?
He goes, dude, there's this book.
I'm going to give you the book.
I just finished it.
shane gillis
Crossfire?
joe rogan
No.
Best Evidence.
David Lifton.
So I was reading this book in my fucking hotel room before the show.
I was like, oh, no.
shane gillis
That's crazy.
They fucking killed the president.
If you look into that, the smallest amount, if you look into that, you go, oh, 100% they killed him.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's no way.
The people that say Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone, first of all, it doesn't even make sense from an evidence perspective when you look at the bullet.
It doesn't make sense in any way.
The whole reason why they needed to attribute all these different shots to one bullet, the back and to the left, there's so much wrong with it.
shane gillis
The whole thing.
joe rogan
Everything's wrong with it.
But that is a crazy story.
The fact that it was released on television because of a comic.
shane gillis
Oh, Dick Gregory.
joe rogan
Dick Gregory.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Stand-up comic.
shane gillis
He got this Zapruder film?
joe rogan
Got all the Zapruder film.
shane gillis
Oh, that's it.
joe rogan
And played it on the fucking Geraldo Rivera show.
And played it 12 years after the assassination.
That's what's nuts, man.
It was on TV in 75. Imagine some shit that went down in like, you know, 2011. Yeah.
shane gillis
2001. Some shit went down.
joe rogan
Imagine that.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, some shit did go down.
shane gillis
Can you imagine if we got some footage out of that?
jamie vernon
It'd be like one of you guys having it.
They're like, yo.
shane gillis
Yeah, if one of us got the Tower 7 collapse.
jamie vernon
We got something to show you.
joe rogan
Oh my god, we just got a guy in there going like this.
shane gillis
Yeah, yeah, literally.
Kind of the bandit.
unidentified
Fucking...
joe rogan
Old school dynamite.
shane gillis
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Right?
shane gillis
Yeah, if you do any...
That's the one.
Everybody talks shit on conspiracy theories, and I get it.
joe rogan
They shouldn't.
shane gillis
Yeah, but there's...
It's silly.
I saw the clip of you and Eddie Bravo talking about Flat Earth.
Mm-hmm.
Your argument there was like, this is the type of conspiracy that fucks up the other conspiracies.
And I believe that.
joe rogan
I don't...
I'll take it a step further.
unidentified
Yeah.
Yeah.
joe rogan
I think the reason why those things are so prevalent is not because they're enticing.
I think people put them out there purposely to make other conspiracy theories seem stupid.
And if they can give you enough fake evidence And enough really eloquent people describing these things and why they're trying to hide this from you.
And then they always attach it to religion.
Flat Earth is always attached to religion.
shane gillis
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
It's not atheist people that believe in Flat Earth for the most part.
I'm sure there's a few out there that do.
But for the most part, they believe that there's a firmament above Earth as described in the Bible.
shane gillis
Oh, yes.
joe rogan
Yeah, they don't believe in space.
shane gillis
Isn't outer space water, then?
joe rogan
It's all just bullshit.
unidentified
I mean, I guess that explains rain.
shane gillis
Guys are like, what the fuck is that?
Like, well, up there is water.
joe rogan
Yeah, I don't know how they explain the lights.
What do they think galaxies are?
And what do telescopes see?
Are telescopes bullshit, too?
shane gillis
Yeah, water.
I knew it was water.
joe rogan
Yeah, so there's a great deep below.
There's the pillars of the earth.
And there's a firmament.
And then the earth is flat.
And then this bald stuff is all just bullshit.
shane gillis
Chambers in heaven?
joe rogan
Upper seas.
They think it's like a disc.
I think that's how they describe it, as a disc.
jamie vernon
What I have here was the Bible firmament from Wikipedia.
So then there's like the springing and the flat part.
joe rogan
Yeah, so earth is flat.
So this is what they think it is.
That's what they think it is.
shane gillis
The Bible firmament makes sense, again, if you're like, what the fuck is rain?
Because that would rock me.
joe rogan
I mean, we have a real problem in that a lot of these religious texts They're describing things that we now have science for.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's a real problem with that.
Yeah.
Like, everything.
Including procreation.
Like, we actually know what's happening now.
We can fucking watch the sperm get in the egg.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
We know...
shane gillis
That would have been nuts.
joe rogan
We have photos of other planets.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, we have, like, really good photos of the moon.
We have super good photos of Mars.
We got a thing on Mars.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
It's a robot.
We got satellites that are flying around Mars.
shane gillis
Imagine not knowing What sex did.
unidentified
Right.
shane gillis
You're like, I really want to do it.
And then all of a sudden a kid comes out, occasionally a kid comes out.
joe rogan
Right.
shane gillis
You'd be like, this is...
joe rogan
And how'd that happen?
unidentified
Well, if you go way, way, way back, they probably had...
shane gillis
I'm dumb.
joe rogan
They probably had no idea that it was their kid.
shane gillis
You see some dogs do it, you're like, oh, that's how it's done.
joe rogan
Well, people always did it, just like the gorillas of the zoo always did.
shane gillis
Of course, but I'm saying, like, you wouldn't be able to explain anything.
unidentified
Right.
shane gillis
Rain would be...
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
shane gillis
You'd be like, there must be water up there.
joe rogan
Well, how about lightning?
How about people dying from lightning?
shane gillis
Fucking hit by lightning, you'd be like, oh my god.
joe rogan
Magic is real.
Imagine you're living 50,000 years ago and your friend gets killed by lightning in front of you.
Like, magic is real.
I was watching this dude get fucked up in a parking lot the other day.
unidentified
What happened?
joe rogan
Not real life, on video.
It was another Instagram thing that I keep getting sent.
I think Sigur might have sent me this one too.
Some dude is walking in this parking lot and he just gets fucking nailed.
shane gillis
By lightning?
joe rogan
Just the finger of the god.
shane gillis
Thor himself.
joe rogan
I mean, it's just as scary as like a demon taking you.
shane gillis
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It's just as scary.
shane gillis
If you don't survive, I'll take it.
That's a good out.
joe rogan
Right.
shane gillis
Struck by lightning?
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
That's a good out.
joe rogan
It's a good way to go.
If you don't survive.
shane gillis
If you survive, that blows.
There's a guy who survived like seven.
joe rogan
Yeah.
He's like the most electrocuted guy of all time.
My friend Remy got nailed.
shane gillis
You know a guy that got struck by lightning?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
When he was a kid.
He told a story on the podcast, I'm pretty sure.
I'm trying to remember how old he was.
When it went down.
But he was a kid.
I know that for sure.
And he was...
I think he went deaf for a little while.
At least in one ear.
He was really fucked up.
He said he didn't understand what happened when he woke up.
You know, he woke up.
There was no one around.
He just got nailed by lightning.
People do live.
Like, quite a few people live, but quite a few people don't.
Just imagine if you had no idea what electrical storms- Yeah, I think if it strikes something near you, you live.
If it's like a direct strike- No, you can get hit and live.
People have gotten hit and lived.
Yeah, believe it or not.
But there's different kinds of lightning strikes, right?
There's lightning strikes that split trees in half.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you get hit with one of those bitches, you're fucked.
shane gillis
You're exploding.
joe rogan
You know, you see them branches in the sky like, some of them are fucking thick.
You get hit with one of them thick streams.
shane gillis
Just explode on a golf course.
joe rogan
Do you know that that's what they used to think that rain was?
It was God jizzing on the earth?
Yeah.
It's in the Dead Sea Scrolls.
shane gillis
I mean, they're kind of right.
It does bring life.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's what they thought it was.
shane gillis
I mean, they're kind of still correct.
joe rogan
If they were just figuring out that if you...
Well, first of all, they were just learning how to write things down, right?
And they're just figuring out that you have orgasm inside of a woman, she can get pregnant.
They're just figuring this out.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
So they probably would see rain come down, and they realized that all these things would grow out of the rain.
shane gillis
That's come.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's God coming on the earth.
shane gillis
And they figured that's how God...
joe rogan
No, they're out there just trying to...
I mean, God gives all life with his cum.
I don't think they thought cum was bad back then.
They probably thought it was like super valuable.
But there's a book, there's literally a book based on some of the things that they think from this.
It's called The Sacred Mushroom in the Cross.
It's by this guy named John Marco Allegro, who was a, he was an ordained minister.
But he became agnostic as he started studying theology.
And then he was one of the people that was – he was sent to decipher the Dead Sea Scrolls, which is like the oldest verse.
You're fucking Bud Light.
Bud Light is giving me cum in my throat.
shane gillis
Don't you dare.
Don't you dare put that on this.
joe rogan
So this dude, one of the things that he came up with at the end of this 14 year deciphering of the Dead Sea Scrolls was he thinks that Christ was an ancient Sumerian word.
He traced it back to the roots of an ancient Sumerian word, which meant a mushroom covered in God's semen.
So apparently they had a word.
That for a mushroom, and they thought that when God came on the earth and the mushrooms raised up, when you eat the mushrooms and trip your balls, you're experiencing God.
Which makes sense.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It totally makes sense.
If you're living 50,000 years ago and you find a fucking- If you're living today.
Yeah.
You find some magic mushrooms.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And you start chomping on them, and the next thing you know, you're like- Yeah.
The universe opens up with all its secrets to you.
You're like, we're all connected.
If that happens to you today.
shane gillis
Fuck, that was definitely come.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's God's come.
Imagine if God's come was the only way you could achieve enlightenment.
You had to blow God.
shane gillis
That's not...
Yeah, I would do...
I don't need enlightenment.
joe rogan
But that was it.
That was it.
It's like, this is what you're scared of.
You're just scared of sucking a dick.
Don't be scared.
Don't you want to be enlightened?
Or do you want to just live this life over and over and over again and never get it right?
shane gillis
What is enlightenment?
What does that entail?
joe rogan
Freedom.
Complete freedom of mind.
Being connected to the God source.
Being one with the universe.
Always happy.
Always filled with love.
Understanding it.
Getting the big picture.
unidentified
Gay.
joe rogan
Well, literally.
unidentified
Literally.
joe rogan
The only way to get there is you gotta suck God off.
Imagine if that was a thing.
That sounds stupid, right?
But God tried to test a guy in the Bible to kill his kid.
Yeah.
You don't think God would get you right to the point where you're at the tip and he'd go, psych?
unidentified
Yeah, just for the record, you were going to do it.
joe rogan
You fucking loser.
shane gillis
You suck.
unidentified
You almost sucked my dick.
shane gillis
Why'd you make me?
unidentified
You really think that if God would have you suck his dick?
joe rogan
I could have anybody suck my dick.
I'm God.
Why would I want to get this fucking stand-up comedian to suck my dick?
shane gillis
Damn, that is a philosophical question.
joe rogan
It is, if you think about what God...
shane gillis
Does God get ahead?
joe rogan
But if you think about what God forced people to do in the Bible, you know what I mean?
Who are the two brothers?
Or the father and the son?
Who are the father and the son, rather, that he was...
shane gillis
Oh, that was Abraham and...
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
What was that kid's name?
What was that pussy's name, dude?
joe rogan
Imagine one lady...
shane gillis
Isaac, fuck.
joe rogan
Imagine one lady eats an apple, and he's like, I'm done with you people.
I'm done with the whole race, forever.
No more love, no more Eden, no more beautiful, perfect world, because one person ate an apple.
Do you think it's ridiculous that that same god would want you to suck his dick?
shane gillis
No.
joe rogan
Sounds like a crazy god.
shane gillis
No, yeah, that god's...
joe rogan
But he wouldn't actually let you do it.
He just said he'd want you to beg for it, and then he'd go, no, no, no.
shane gillis
Oh, a little Caravaggio?
joe rogan
What is he doing here?
jamie vernon
Depiction of Abraham.
joe rogan
Oh, is Abraham about to kill his son?
jamie vernon
Angel telling him to stop.
shane gillis
Give me credit on that Caravaggio.
joe rogan
An angel told him to stop.
Wow.
Come on.
Clearly, that's probably, if that really did happen, clearly, schizophrenia, right?
Like, one of the earliest examples.
I mean, come on.
Schizophrenia can't be new.
shane gillis
That's literally every homeless dude in Central Park.
unidentified
Exactly.
shane gillis
It's like, God told me to fucking do this.
joe rogan
I mean, why is a sheep herder with a fucking stone knife?
Wild times, man.
I mean, who knows what really happened that was the original version of these stories?
shane gillis
Damn, is that that kid's dick sticking out?
jamie vernon
No, no, no.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
Damn, I wonder if he wanted to kill him, his fucking huge dick.
unidentified
I can't believe my son's got such a cock.
joe rogan
Dude, I mean, what were the original stories?
That's what's crazy about any religious doctrine.
I mean, the Mormons are the best example of it, right?
Because they know who wrote it.
But you have these religious doctrines.
shane gillis
I like the Mormons.
They're good bros.
joe rogan
They're the nicest people.
shane gillis
They do kind of rule.
joe rogan
They kind of rule.
shane gillis
But boy, I'm not certain about a lot of people being wrong.
joe rogan
That one seems sus, as the kids say today.
unidentified
That's sus.
joe rogan
So sus.
A 14-year-old boy in 1820 found golden tablets that contained the lost work of Jesus, and only he could read it because he had a magic rock A seer stone, if you will.
So when the townspeople came to find these magic tablets, the fucking angels took them away.
God was like, no.
unidentified
I'm not going to show anybody but you, Joseph Smith.
shane gillis
Can you imagine Joseph being like...
joe rogan
No liar and con, man.
shane gillis
No way this works.
joe rogan
He was probably schizophrenic, too.
I mean, if you're a schizophrenic 14-year-old in 1820, and you're really charismatic, you'd probably convince a lot of people of a lot of stupid shit.
shane gillis
Schizophrenic wearing a top hat and like a tall coat, I'd believe him.
joe rogan
Man, bro, back then, you could trick people.
This was a snake oil salesman.
They'd pull up in the, you know, this can cure all ales, tuberculosis.
shane gillis
Yeah, he'd be like, oh, thank God.
joe rogan
You remember then in the Outlaw Josie Wales?
He spits on him, he goes, how's it with tobacco juice?
shane gillis
No.
joe rogan
You've never seen that scene?
shane gillis
No, I don't think I have.
joe rogan
Oh, it's great.
It's a great scene.
Find that, Jamie.
Outlaw Josie Wales and the snake oil salesman.
Outlaw Josie Wales fucking rules.
shane gillis
Is that Clint Eastwood?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Is that Clint Eastwood?
You've never seen the Outlaw Josie Wales and you've seen All Quiet on the Western Front?
shane gillis
Bro.
unidentified
How?
shane gillis
I'll watch that.
You watch that.
joe rogan
I will watch it.
shane gillis
All Quiet on the Western Front.
joe rogan
I just gotta watch it on a day where I don't have anything else to do but be depressed.
shane gillis
You're gonna be sad.
joe rogan
I get so sad.
shane gillis
You're gonna go, I can't believe people did this.
joe rogan
Dude, looking at those paintings of that guy with the gas masks on, I was like, Otto Dix.
I was like, fuck, man.
What did that guy see?
unidentified
And the engine better makes you fat or a little fatter.
Look away, look away, look away, Dixie Man.
joe rogan
So he was a Confederate soldier and they were after him.
unidentified
This is at the end of the war.
joe rogan
And so this guy is gonna turn him in, because he's like, everybody knows who he is, and they figured out who he is, and he's worth a lot of money.
And so that guy is singing Dixie, but as soon as he goes the other way, he's gonna be singing the Union Army song.
See?
Oh, that's what he just spit on him.
Here, sorry, I've talked over.
Here is it.
unidentified
One dollar a bottle.
It works wonders on wounds.
Which one isn't just about everything, huh?
It can do most anything.
joe rogan
That dude that he's with is a kid who winds up getting shot and killed.
shane gillis
What the fuck?
I was going to watch it.
joe rogan
It's a good movie, man.
But there's a scene where he was hiding underneath his blanket and he was pretending that he's sick.
And these robbers came up and he shot these dudes.
And...
After he said to Outlaw Josie Warehouse, he goes, we whooped him again, Josie.
We whooped him again.
I used to say that all the time when I got off stage.
We whooped him again, Josie.
shane gillis
We whooped him again.
It's funny you say that.
I say that at the end of the Battle of Shiloh, they were asking Ulysses Grant because they got rocked on the first day.
And they were like, they gave us hell today.
And he goes, yeah, we'll lick them tomorrow.
unidentified
Great rules.
joe rogan
Imagine that was a thing that meant you kicked someone's ass, lick them?
shane gillis
We'll lick them.
joe rogan
How did that happen?
shane gillis
My dad still says bitch.
Like, he's a bitch.
Somebody's like, tough.
Oh.
He's a bitch.
joe rogan
Really?
shane gillis
He genuinely says that all the time.
joe rogan
Oh, it went the other way?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
So it's...
shane gillis
I don't know if that's old or just what they said in a creek in Mechanicsburg.
unidentified
Hmm.
shane gillis
He's a bitch.
Like a bitch of a time?
joe rogan
A bitch of a time, yeah.
A guy would have to be so tough that you knew what he was saying.
Or you're crazy.
You could be one of those guys who wants to fight Mike Tyson.
Fuck you!
He's a pussy.
It's on, on site.
unidentified
You're not man enough to live in my world.
I'll fuck you till you love me.
Bro!
joe rogan
I used to have a bit about that.
shane gillis
That might be the number one scariest.
joe rogan
I used to have a bit about that.
I was like, do you know how long that would take?
He would have to fuck you for years.
And he would have to trust you that you loved him.
He would have to decide.
shane gillis
Stockholm syndrome.
joe rogan
I don't believe you.
shane gillis
You're lying.
Get back in there.
joe rogan
But that is a case of a guy who thinks he's protected by laws getting out of line and insulting one of the greatest boxers of all time.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're just insulting him, saying, you should be in a straitjacket.
How about shut your mouth and write things down?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Don't provoke that guy.
Are you fucking crazy?
He just bit Lennox Lewis.
You don't think he'll punch you?
jamie vernon
This is a Reddit post from Scoop Malinowski, who was the reporter.
Who did that quote?
shane gillis
Nine years ago.
joe rogan
Oh, that's the guy?
We were trying to figure out who he was.
jamie vernon
I found out the other day, but you guys were so far along, I didn't want to bring it back up, but since you did now...
joe rogan
Nine years ago he wrote this.
shane gillis
We've talked about this before.
joe rogan
I was thinking, yeah, yeah, yeah, I talk about it all the time.
I want to know who this guy is, because it's so crazy to have that guy screaming at you?
How terrifying must that have been?
So I was thinking, why isn't anybody doing anything to stop this madman who just assaulted the heavyweight champ and then came out grabbing his nuts and sneering and swearing at the crowd?
First I booed him from row seven.
He did not like that, and he shot me a glare.
Then we turned his back.
I yelled, put him in a straight jacket.
That's when all hell broke loose.
For the first two to three seconds, I almost had a heart attack.
LOL. But then I froze, and we just looked each other in the eye for about a minute as he did his tirade.
I kept my cool, which seems to fluster him at the end, as he became embarrassed and even seemed to have tears in his eyes.
It was a bad period in his life.
He knew he was going to lose to Lewis, and despite the $30 million payday, he was still going to be in debt as his purse was going to all his creditors.
His second wife was also divorcing him, so it was a rock bottom time for Tyson.
This guy's like psychologically examining Tyson now.
He's since turned his life around, become a positive example.
I actually had dinner with him after the memorial for our mutual friend and the artist, Leroy Neiman, a couple of years ago.
Oh, that's interesting.
At Ringside Lounge in Jersey City, in Jersey, we even did an interview about tennis.
He said, Navarrolova is the greatest, not Serena.
We also spent time together...
This is also random.
I also attended two of his Undisputed Truth shows on Broadway at the invite of a mutual friend, Mario Costa.
Mike is at peace now and in a great place.
He's very busy, involved in many projects.
I'm happy to say it looks like it would ultimately be a happy ending, not a tragic one for Mike Tyson, when the day comes decades down the road.
Thanks for asking.
shane gillis
That's not a good...
Pussy.
joe rogan
Fuck that guy.
shane gillis
No, fuck that guy.
joe rogan
Pot, but he's a journalist, okay?
shane gillis
That's the most journalist shit ever.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
shane gillis
He was wrong.
It's like, you yelled, he put him in a straitjacket.
joe rogan
Right.
He definitely didn't provoke him.
shane gillis
And if that guy made eye contact with Mike while he was yelling that for a minute, no.
joe rogan
Yeah, but this, listen, this is...
shane gillis
Going to the same dinner?
No, he was just in the room.
joe rogan
Maybe.
shane gillis
If Mike knew who he was.
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
I bet Mike forgave him.
I guarantee you Mike did.
jamie vernon
There's the New York Times story on it, too, that talks about it.
joe rogan
It says, Ryder lost his head seeing Tyson's antics.
Mark Malinowski calls himself Scoop.
His signature apparel is an anarchist.
Ugh.
Tuesday, Malinowski, 35, a freelance writer of self-syndicated feature called Biophiles, watched Mike Tyson and Lennox Lewis brawled on stage in the Hudson Theater in Manhattan.
Okay, when Tyson emerged from the scrum, Malinowski booed him.
jamie vernon
That's pretty much just explaining everything that happened.
This was just from 2002. Exactly.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, they're both different people now.
shane gillis
He was wearing a fedora with a thing that said press in the side.
joe rogan
Yeah, and his little icon.
shane gillis
This guy's a fucking dork.
joe rogan
Probably.
shane gillis
I'm not afraid to touch it on him.
joe rogan
I'm not afraid to touch it on him.
I was a comedian.
shane gillis
You're not man enough, Malinowski.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's a problem.
Well, you know, you just don't fucking...
When the guy just gets in the middle of a brawl and you're going to taunt him?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Put him in a straitjacket.
Also, that sucks.
Like, if you could go back and say something more clever, wouldn't you?
jamie vernon
I think that's him with his fedora.
joe rogan
Oh, okay.
Okay.
jamie vernon
He's talking to Triple G. That's super out of a cartoon, though.
joe rogan
So he's still out there.
So he's still out there.
jamie vernon
I think that's him, yeah.
joe rogan
Okay.
I wonder if he became notorious.
There's him and Tyson.
unidentified
Oh, nice.
See?
joe rogan
Look at that.
Dude, Mike's a nice fucking guy, dude.
He really is.
He's a real nice guy.
He's a sweetheart.
He's a sweetheart.
unidentified
Put him in a straitjacket and then he comes back with, I'm going to fuck you.
joe rogan
But I believe now, I know.
I'll fuck you too.
unidentified
You love me.
shane gillis
Put him in a straitjacket.
joe rogan
Fuck you.
You couldn't live a minute in my world.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Oh my God, it was amazing.
Dropped f-bombs, four or five of them.
It was great.
shane gillis
It was actually one of the- It was pure.
It was the scariest shit talking I've ever heard.
joe rogan
The scariest.
Cause real.
Cause he could do it.
You white pussy.
You have a goddamn thing to say about it.
He's just gonna do whatever he wants to do.
shane gillis
Imagine wearing that fedora and saying that to Mike Tyson.
Put him in a striped jacket.
And then getting hit with, I'm gonna fuck you till you love me.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's the...
We talked about this the other day.
He got fined, like, hundreds of thousands of dollars for biting Lennox Lewis.
Look how good he looked back then, physically.
Goddamn, he's in a tank.
He's grabbing his dick.
I like how this guy's got his arm on his jacket.
He's covering up Tyson's dick.
Watch how this guy covers up Tyson's dick.
shane gillis
All right, champ.
Take it easy, champ.
joe rogan
Watch how he does this.
No one needs to see this.
Michael.
Michael, we're gonna hide that.
Imagine, like, everyone already saw it.
You can't, like, if that guy holds his jacket, is that like an erasing machine, like, from fucking Men in Black?
I just saw him grab his dick!
shane gillis
No, he wasn't doing that.
joe rogan
He was grabbing his dick!
shane gillis
He wasn't just fighting.
joe rogan
Right.
He wasn't just biting Lennox Lewis in the thigh.
shane gillis
Damn.
joe rogan
Damn.
Crazy.
shane gillis
That was like the first Tyson fight I ever watched.
joe rogan
Really?
shane gillis
Yeah.
Tyson Lewis.
I was too young for all of his, everything he did.
I saw Tyson Lewis.
joe rogan
Lewis was a bad man.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Ooh, he was a bad man.
He's an interesting guy, too.
Plays a lot of chess.
shane gillis
Really?
joe rogan
That's what he does.
Yeah.
Just kind of chills and plays chess.
shane gillis
That's cool.
You put that British accent on anyone.
joe rogan
I know.
That makes it look cool.
shane gillis
And you're like, wait a second.
No, no.
When it comes to fighting, you're like, no way.
joe rogan
Really?
shane gillis
To me.
If they have a British accent.
joe rogan
Well, it was back in the 80s, that was the case.
It's like Frank Bruno.
shane gillis
Think of Leon.
joe rogan
Leon Edwards?
shane gillis
Yeah, you hear that accent.
Every single comment about him is like, yeah, he's such a nice guy.
joe rogan
He is a nice guy, though.
shane gillis
Yeah, he wins the fight, he's like, headshot, bang, fuck you!
joe rogan
Yeah, well, he was a little fired up.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, he was losing to the number one pound-for-pound guy in the world.
And he headshot kicked him.
I mean, that shit was magic.
shane gillis
Video makes me tear up.
The trainer?
joe rogan
Made me tear up.
shane gillis
The trainer saying it?
joe rogan
Dude.
shane gillis
He's like, you gotta pull this out of the fire.
joe rogan
Well, he was saying that it made me tear up.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Interviewing him made me tear up.
shane gillis
That's like the coolest, that interview of him getting like...
joe rogan
Oh my god.
shane gillis
You just get to witness a guy being the happiest dude on earth.
joe rogan
The happiest.
That anybody could ever be.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
My other favorite one is Stylebender after he knocked out Polaton.
shane gillis
Look at me now!
joe rogan
Look at this.
unidentified
Headshot.
Leon, were there moments in the fight?
Coming into the fifth round, you were behind on the scores.
Were there moments where you were doubting?
I know, I know.
It doesn't matter.
I'm from the trenches.
joe rogan
I'm built like this.
unidentified
I'll go to the bounds done.
That's it.
I'm from the trenches.
I've been dying the whole nights now.
Look at me now.
I mean, those guys must have been so sad.
They must have been so sad watching that.
joe rogan
So sad.
shane gillis
During the whole fight?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
At the moment.
This is my favorite.
unidentified
Powerful power walk.
Powerful power walk.
There is no power for power.
The battle belongs to nobody.
That's it.
joe rogan
Bro, that's some profound shit right there.
There is no pound for pound.
The belt belongs to nobody.
After he just won it.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's when it's real.
I mean, he just won it in the most spectacular manner possible.
The greatest way to win a fight, by far, is a head kick knockout.
There is no wilder thing to see.
And for him to land that in the fifth round of a fight that he was losing and then say, there is no pound for pound.
The belt belongs to nobody.
shane gillis
Yeah.
It's like Christ-like.
joe rogan
It's heavy, dude.
shane gillis
That's crazy.
joe rogan
Because that guy is in the most elevated state of understanding what winning is all about.
shane gillis
Yeah.
unidentified
Ever.
joe rogan
There's no higher level.
He beats the best pound for pound fighter in the world, becomes the UFC welterweight champ, in a fight he was losing!
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
And head kicks him.
Boom!
And walks off.
shane gillis
He hit the McGregor.
He hit the fucking...
joe rogan
Yeah, man.
unidentified
He did.
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Bro, when he head kicked...
See, you can find the actual head kick, because when he head kicked him, he doesn't even think about following up.
Watch this.
unidentified
Cloth from which he is caught.
No!
joe rogan
Just walked off.
shane gillis
There it is.
joe rogan
I mean, come on, man.
unidentified
Yeah.
shane gillis
We've probably done this a thousand times.
joe rogan
That guy...
shane gillis
Can you get the trainer's speech?
joe rogan
That guy's in...
shane gillis
Like the Rocky music?
joe rogan
He's in a separate dimension when that happens.
Like, his fucking spirit transcends.
shane gillis
There's one that's just a video of that.
joe rogan
This is it.
shane gillis
You can get it.
joe rogan
They probably pulled the Rocky music off of YouTube.
unidentified
Oh, yeah, this is so good.
joe rogan
This is the one.
unidentified
It's 101. Come on, Neil.
shane gillis
This is early.
He's like, come on, come on, come on.
joe rogan
Don't let him bully yourself.
shane gillis
It's so nice, dude.
unidentified
Get down!
Listen!
Listen!
You've got to get f*** out of you now, Leon!
You're too down.
Come on.
Come on.
You're letting them control you too much, son.
You've got to get your hands going, Leon.
You've got to get your hands going.
Come on!
Look where you clean to the other.
joe rogan
Look how tired he is.
unidentified
I mean if you're not drinking beer and watching this video, you're not living dude.
joe rogan
How great is that coach?
shane gillis
It's awesome.
unidentified
Insane.
Insane.
shane gillis
It's joyful.
joe rogan
The fact that his nickname is Rocky, and then the fact that this is like literally one of the most spectacular victories in the history of the sport.
Holy shit, man.
shane gillis
I fall down the same rabbit hole every time I watch UFC. I watch Conor Nate 1, then I watch Nate Leon.
Nate Leon's like my favorite.
joe rogan
It's a great fight.
shane gillis
It's so funny.
joe rogan
It's a great fight.
shane gillis
When he starts hitting him, when Nate starts hitting him.
joe rogan
When Nate cracked him and rocked him and then he points at him.
I couldn't believe it.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because he was losing that fight.
shane gillis
Oh, yeah.
I mean, Leon was doing, like, moves.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
He was doing, like, spinning elbows to the head.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
All Nate would give him was, like, a...
Oh, that one worked.
joe rogan
Yeah.
shane gillis
That's it, dude.
joe rogan
That left hand was perfect, too.
shane gillis
Then he starts running from him.
joe rogan
Watch.
shane gillis
When Leon inflicks him off...
Right here, he runs.
joe rogan
He almost had him, dude.
Dude, he almost had him.
shane gillis
He's winding up.
joe rogan
Nate literally almost had him.
I mean, there's multiple moments in this fight where Leon's in so much trouble after that punch that he could have got KO'd.
Multiple moments.
I mean, he's in the fire right here.
shane gillis
Yeah, his legs don't work.
joe rogan
And Nate almost clipped him with the same one, too.
shane gillis
Damn.
joe rogan
I mean, he's literally running away from him.
And he just looked at the clock and got a clip of the right hook.
shane gillis
I mean...
joe rogan
Nate always has the wildest cardio.
Him and his brother had the best cardio.
shane gillis
I watched...
joe rogan
Bro, his brother?
His brother.
shane gillis
I was too...
joe rogan
Strikeforce?
shane gillis
I wasn't into it with Nick.
joe rogan
Oh my god, dude.
You want to see some wild shit?
shane gillis
I've watched Nick versus Anderson.
That's awesome.
unidentified
Yeah, that's great.
shane gillis
When he's like fucking with Anderson Silva.
joe rogan
Yeah, when he naps on the ground.
That's great.
But you got to go back to Paul Daly versus Nick Diaz.
You want to see a wild fight?
Nick Diaz was the fucking man.
Dude, he had the most ridiculous cardio.
And Paul Daly was one of the scariest strikers that's ever fought in the sport.
Paul Daly has like a nuclear left hand.
This is Frank Shamrock.
He beat the fuck out of Frank Shamrock in this fight.
And he kept talking shit to him the whole time.
Dude, Nick Diaz was the man.
And he had insane cardio.
The thing that he had over everybody was that, first of all, he didn't give a fuck if you hit him.
He wasn't worried about getting hit at all, which is crazy.
But on top of that, this motherfucker swam back and forth from Alcatraz.
He swam back from Alcatraz five times.
He's got insane cardio.
Like, does triathlons for funsies.
No.
Yes!
shane gillis
No, I mean that.
joe rogan
So he would get hit by these guys who would swarm him, but eventually he would start putting it on him.
He just never got tired, dude.
He just never got tired, and he didn't give up.
Like, his style was like, fuck you.
Just starts beating dudes up.
shane gillis
It's so fun.
joe rogan
Look, bro, look how he rips to the body.
I mean, Nate's great, but Nick was the real star of the family.
He just never got to the UFC while he was in this state.
If he was a UFC champion while he was in this form, because he was in a form during Strikeforce where he was fucking up everybody.
And not just knocking them out and beating them up, like this fight right here.
Go to the Frank Shamrock fight.
The Frank Shamrock fight, like Frank Shamrock was a fucking legend, man.
Frank was a legend.
And he submitted a lot of guys, too.
That's the other thing about Nick.
Like, Nick had a fucking nasty guard.
I believe he submitted Cyborg with an arm bar.
He was just a killer, man.
Just a real killer.
And the thing is, he would keep talking shit to you and keep punching you, and you're getting tired.
And he stays on you.
And you just don't get any breathing room.
Look at him.
Constantly, constantly, staying on you.
And you've got to realize how good Frank Shamrock was in his prime.
Because Frank was like the original mixed martial artist, the original complete mixed martial artist.
And here, Nick's just beating him down.
It was like a true changing of the guard.
Like, Nick would just fucking...
Like, gave him...
He had no chance.
He didn't present any problems to Nick.
Which is just wild to think that a guy could do that to a guy like Fran Chimer.
That's how good Nick Diaz was when he was in his prime.
He was just doing that over in Strikeforce.
And the problem was the audience was just quite a bit smaller.
shane gillis
The Diaz...
joe rogan
This is him versus...
shane gillis
Fucking with people is so funny in this sport.
It's such a crazy sport.
And then there's a dude out there like...
Flicking you off?
joe rogan
This is Scott Smith.
This guy's a dangerous fucking striker.
Super dangerous.
Knocked a lot of people out.
Knocked one of my friends out.
This guy was a fucking killer.
And Nick just beat me.
shane gillis
He knocked one of your friends out?
joe rogan
He knocked one of my friends out.
shane gillis
You guys just having fun?
joe rogan
No, they were in a UFC fight.
Oh.
But this guy was super dangerous.
This is another guy that just had just ridiculous knockout power and just tough as shit.
But you're just dealing with a guy in Nick that literally never got tired, was as game as they came, didn't give a fuck, just in there having fun.
Dude, he had one of his fights overturned because he was literally high while he was fighting.
So the Gomi fight...
So they said no?
They overturned it because it was in Vegas.
They did something.
They overturned the decision because he was high.
shane gillis
Because he tested positive for weed?
joe rogan
He was fucking high.
unidentified
I was like, God.
joe rogan
That's not good.
shane gillis
That's not going to help you in a fight?
joe rogan
I bet it would.
shane gillis
Maybe for them, but I'm sure it's not like a...
joe rogan
Find...
Nick Diaz, I think it was Gomi.
I think it was Takenori Gomi that he submitted.
I'm pretty sure it was Gomi because Gomi was a super dangerous guy from Japan who was a baseball player that converted into fighting and he would throw a right hand literally like a fucking fastball, man.
It was crazy.
Yeah, so Nick is putting it on him, but Gomi cracked him.
Gomi cracked him and hurt him at one point in time, and he got like a big cut over one of his cheeks.
shane gillis
Everybody's so tired fighting these dudes.
joe rogan
Well, this is just, this is how Nick would do people.
He would just put it on them.
No, you gotta go a little bit back up so you see what happened.
Yeah, but this is it.
Just go right here.
So what happened was, Nick was putting it on him, and Gomi tried to take him down, and Nick put him in a gogoplata.
Did they not show it?
Oh, here it is.
Oh, they're gonna show it here.
So here, Nick is beating him up, and then Gomi goes to try to take him down, and Nick gets him in a wild maneuver.
Look at that.
He's got his shin across the dude's neck.
It's a gogoplata.
I mean, it's like a crazy move to pull off in MMA. Almost never happens.
And for Nick to pull it off on Gomi, high as a kite...
shane gillis
Wait, this is the fight he lost because he was high?
unidentified
Yes!
joe rogan
He's high as fuck during the- because this fight- this was Pride.
Pride had one event that was in Las Vegas.
I'm 90% sure of that.
Check on that.
I think that- I believe that fight was in Vegas, which was the problem.
We had beers?
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, we should probably wrap this up anyway.
We gotta get out of here.
unidentified
Alright.
joe rogan
We've been here three hours at least.
shane gillis
Really?
joe rogan
I think.
Yeah, right?
shane gillis
Give or take?
unidentified
Yeah.
jamie vernon
2.30 on my clock.
shane gillis
The second we get to Diaz highlights and R. Kelly.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
We've reached.
joe rogan
That's what we do.
We're at the pinnacle.
We're a podcast pinnacle.
We got a show in a little bit.
Let's go have fun.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
All right.
I love you.
You're awesome.
unidentified
I love you.
joe rogan
You're the man.
shane gillis
The shit rules.
joe rogan
Shane Gillis watches a new special on Netflix.
Beautiful Dogs.
It's fucking amazing.
All Your Shit.
Gillian Keeves available on Patreon.
It's on YouTube.
It's on everywhere.
shane gillis
Yeah.
joe rogan
You find it.
Some of the best sketches.
Those sketches are fucking amazing.
They really are.
You go for it.
It's real.
The fucking dad with the OnlyFans.
It's amazing.
It's amazing.
unidentified
All right.
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