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Joe Rogan Experience #2072 - Stavros Halkias
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stavros halkias
I don't know.
I think it's their own blend.
Some kind of tobacco thing.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's go live and sort this out.
stavros halkias
Yeah, come on.
You know how podcasting works.
joe rogan
We're wasting all this beautiful...
stavros halkias
I was recording it.
unidentified
I was recording it.
stavros halkias
We use every part of the buffalo.
unidentified
We missed this entire Jamie ordering a half cow.
joe rogan
What's wrong with a cow?
stavros halkias
I love that.
I'm with prepper Jamie.
joe rogan
Jamie's got canned peaches in his basement.
unidentified
I just thought it was a Texas thing.
joe rogan
What, getting a half a cow?
Yeah.
Well, it is.
Well, one of the beautiful things about living around here is that there are a bunch of really good ranchers.
And you could buy...
Meat from someone who you know they grew the cow.
You know they didn't pump it full of antibiotics and hormones.
There's a lot of grass-fed ranchers out here.
stavros halkias
That's nice.
jamie vernon
I think that's what I was thinking one day.
stavros halkias
I would love a nice grass-fed ribeye.
joe rogan
I'm a big fan of the grass-fed ribeyes.
Most people are so used to corn-fed though.
You get that pinkish sort of fatty.
jamie vernon
Do you know the difference between prime or whatever?
joe rogan
I do not.
I do not.
stavros halkias
Wait, what's the difference between corn-fed and grass-fed?
joe rogan
Grass-fed is how they normally eat.
That's how a cow usually eats.
They just eat grass.
stavros halkias
Okay.
joe rogan
But then when they want to really plump them up quickly, they feed them corn.
So most steaks, if you go to like a steakhouse, unless they specify it's corn-fed or grain-fed.
stavros halkias
Gotcha.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
The BBL of cow trough is fucking corn-fed.
Yeah, a grass-fed is nice.
But I couldn't tell you the difference.
joe rogan
They're darker.
It's a little chewier.
Tastes better to me.
I like the flavor more.
The BBL, who was the fucking first doctor?
unidentified
That was like, I know what to do with this extra fat.
stavros halkias
It's genius.
It's like how a baby would be a doctor.
You know what I mean?
It's like, oh, let's put it in their cheeks.
joe rogan
Have you seen one in real life, though?
stavros halkias
I have.
And it was pretty good.
unidentified
Yeah?
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you get them fresh.
BBLs are like fish.
unidentified
You know?
You want them...
stavros halkias
You don't want them hanging out too long, you don't want too many kids, you know what I mean?
But if you get them right after Dr. Miami, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Four months after healing.
stavros halkias
Some pretty cool stuff.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Dry-aged beef.
stavros halkias
Yeah, exactly, exactly.
joe rogan
You gotta let- I'm good at that perfect 30-day mark.
unidentified
Yes.
stavros halkias
You scrape off that weird top part, you know, and underneath there's a nice bubbly butt cheeks.
It is funny to fuck somebody with a huge ass when your dick is so little, though.
It's like my dick was, like, being stopped by the cheeks.
My head was probably this much in her pussy.
joe rogan
That makes sense.
Really, you have to really concentrate on tightening up your butt cheeks and keeping that forward thrust.
unidentified
Good form.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You don't want to have too much laxity on the back end.
stavros halkias
No, no, no.
joe rogan
You don't want to have a rigid wall.
You're only going back in, boom, and back in, and back in!
stavros halkias
I have to get my deadlift formed down just so I can fuck a girl with a huge ass.
joe rogan
I think kettlebell swings.
It's all on the hips.
stavros halkias
Okay, no.
joe rogan
Kettlebell swings.
It's a hip hinge.
That's what you want to work on.
stavros halkias
I think carrying a gigantic stomach has to kind of strengthen the back, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Yeah, I mean, it destroys your back, too.
unidentified
Yeah.
stavros halkias
But for those 45 seconds when I'm in those fake butt cheeks, it's pretty good.
joe rogan
Well, I was thinking that about, like, Ralphie Mae used to have the most fucking gigantic calves.
And I was like, Ralphie, if you lost weight, you'd be able to kick through a fucking wall.
stavros halkias
Bro, check these photos.
Have you seen these little bad boys?
joe rogan
Let me see these bad boys.
stavros halkias
Come on, dude.
This is awesome.
This is what I'm coming on the show for.
unidentified
Huh?
joe rogan
Calfs.
stavros halkias
Check these fuckers out.
joe rogan
Let me see the calves.
stavros halkias
Would I put them up here?
joe rogan
Yeah, up there.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Oh my God.
That's massive.
stavros halkias
Look at those.
joe rogan
But it makes sense.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, you're basically rucking all day.
stavros halkias
What's rucking?
joe rogan
Rucking is like when guys hike with a heavy, heavy, heavy backpack.
stavros halkias
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It's great cardio.
stavros halkias
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're rucking.
stavros halkias
I'm doing a 34-year ruck.
We're shedding it any day now.
joe rogan
Bro, if you lost weight, you'd have fucking tremendous leg power.
stavros halkias
Oh, yeah.
I gotta get in there.
joe rogan
Bert looks great.
stavros halkias
He really does.
joe rogan
He's sending us a picture today.
He's down to 230. He drinks one day a week.
That's it.
And he says he's on a strict carnivore diet.
stavros halkias
Interesting.
Do you think his vices will...
He'll fall apart.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got no chance.
jamie vernon
He just said he's going to gain it all back just so he can try to lose it again because he needs something to do.
stavros halkias
I mean, that's lunacy.
How about being on a constant world tour?
Is that something to do, Bert?
joe rogan
Yeah, that seems a little lunatic too.
stavros halkias
I know.
joe rogan
Well, you know, when I met Bert, Bert didn't have any money.
And now Bert is rolling in dough.
And I just think he just likes that too much and he wants that to keep coming.
I get that.
You know, to go from a guy who, you know, really didn't do well on the road to now all of a sudden you're selling out clubs, now all of a sudden you're selling out theaters.
unidentified
Fucking arenas.
joe rogan
Now you're doing fucking arenas four or five nights a week.
stavros halkias
It's insane.
joe rogan
I get it.
I get it.
It's fun.
stavros halkias
Yeah, it feels like, because I did the Fully Loaded Tour.
I did a weekend on it.
It was insane.
So much fun.
But it does feel like if a guy who was, like, working Funny Bones Got a wish from a genie to sell out arenas, he would behave the way Burt's behaving.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
It is kind of like that, right?
stavros halkias
It's crazy.
I mean, he's having the best time.
He's fucking partying constantly.
joe rogan
He's very happy.
stavros halkias
Yeah, you can't even...
joe rogan
You can't deny him that.
stavros halkias
My instinct is to be like, dude, you gotta slow down.
But I was with him.
He's the only one having the best time ever.
You know what I mean?
It's like, he's having the best time in the fucking world.
Everyone's like, oh, we gotta get fucked up again, Burt.
unidentified
Yeah!
stavros halkias
Dude, I was literally napping in the bunk on mushrooms, and I was like, I have to go do an arena right now?
unidentified
I was like, I just want to chill, man.
stavros halkias
This is too much.
joe rogan
Well, he has a different constitution than most humans.
stavros halkias
It's crazy.
joe rogan
It's got to be genetic.
There's something going on there.
He must have a long line of people from his ancestry that imbibed in alcohol.
stavros halkias
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
He could just put it away.
stavros halkias
No, it's crazy.
joe rogan
And he could put it away and just be hanging out with you, and you're like, wait, how many fucking drinks have you had?
Him and Gillis.
stavros halkias
Shane's out of control.
joe rogan
Bro, he sat here with Ari, and when Ari tried to go beer for beer with him, and he's 16, 17 beers in, and the guy doesn't even slur his words.
stavros halkias
No.
joe rogan
Also, he's giant.
stavros halkias
He's huge.
joe rogan
He's a big fucking dude.
stavros halkias
Yeah, and also Ari's a- So it's gone through a lot of flesh.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ari's a sickly old man.
joe rogan
Look at Ari!
stavros halkias
That's elder abuse to do that to Ari.
joe rogan
Ari seems like he's 50 years older than me and he's younger than me by quite a bit.
He's at least 10 years younger than me, right?
How old is Ari?
unidentified
I think Ari's like 45?
stavros halkias
I don't know.
joe rogan
Well, Google Ari Shaffir.
stavros halkias
Jamie's looking up into the sky.
joe rogan
What do you think that page looks like?
What do you think that search looks like when you Google Ari Shaffir?
It's probably a 49. 49?
stavros halkias
49. Oh, yeah.
Well, he's a man whose genes are he should be a rabbi.
I mean, he looks like a rabbi.
Well, he was on his way.
joe rogan
That's what he was going to do.
I mean, he was literally studying the Talmud like 12 hours a day.
He did the whole deal.
He went to Israel and he was on his way.
He was very religious.
When I met him, he was just breaking out of that.
stavros halkias
Wow.
How long ago was this?
joe rogan
Boy, when did Ari first start coming to the store?
stavros halkias
Look at that.
That's not a rabbi.
joe rogan
Look at his beard.
The beard's amazing.
The beard's so good.
stavros halkias
His posture.
joe rogan
Yeah.
The beard's incredible.
Yeah.
I think I met him...
Boy, I guess it had to have been in the 2000s.
stavros halkias
Makes sense.
joe rogan
Like maybe 2000, 2001. Okay.
So that was somewhere around 23 years ago, and Ari was like, yeah, Ari was like 25. Huh.
And he had lost his religion.
I'm not sure, because we didn't really start talking about that until afterwards when we became better friends.
stavros halkias
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
I just knew him as a door guy at the store.
Just really, really smart dude.
I remember talking to him and go, oh, this motherfucker's on the ball.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's smart.
stavros halkias
Yeah, before 23 years of destroying his brain.
joe rogan
Well, he's still smart as fuck, but it's like, you know, when you talk to people, for me at least, When I'm talking to a door guy or an open-miker guy, I have all the hope in the world for you.
I really do.
But there's some dudes you talk to, you're like, oh, this guy's so dull.
stavros halkias
Yeah, it's not happening.
unidentified
He's dull.
joe rogan
His mind's not working well.
Or he's just leaping to stupid conclusions.
He doesn't have a thing.
stavros halkias
You try and slip him an HVAC. You never know.
joe rogan
You never fucking know.
A brochure for an HVAC. You never know.
Some of them fucking find mushrooms and crack through.
stavros halkias
That's how they do it?
unidentified
It does!
joe rogan
It does happen, right?
I've seen some guys, and I'm like, he's not going to make it.
And they make it.
And they're like, wow.
But you kind of look at them like a salmon going upriver.
stavros halkias
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, how many of you motherfuckers get past the grizzlies?
stavros halkias
You're a bear food baby.
That's coming out of a motherfucker's fangs.
joe rogan
But I remember talking to Ari the first time I talked to him.
And I was like, oh, this fucking dude's clever.
He's smart.
And then once we became friends and he started telling me his background, then I was fascinated.
stavros halkias
I know.
joe rogan
So what made you give up on this, you know?
I know he's talked about it.
I don't remember whether it was a moment or whether it was multiple moments where he gave up on it.
stavros halkias
Yeah, maybe getting pussy for the first time.
Because he's such a freak.
Can you imagine?
joe rogan
Yeah, I wonder when he got pussy.
unidentified
I don't know.
joe rogan
But I think it was when he was 25. But his fucking special Jew is so good.
stavros halkias
Well, that's what I was going to say about this conversation we're having.
Not only was it so good, and it was so interesting to hear from that, but I also felt like he just scratched the surface.
I feel like there's so much more in that self-reflection.
joe rogan
100%.
He could do Jew 2. 100%.
stavros halkias
Jew 2, Electric Boogaloo.
joe rogan
And he could do it better than anybody.
stavros halkias
Electric Jougaloo, I'm sorry.
unidentified
I'm sorry.
stavros halkias
Where's Mark when you need him?
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Fucking the text message chain that I have with him and Shane.
We have a Protect Our Parks text message chain.
And every now and then he'll fucking chime in with a Norman.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
These zingers.
joe rogan
His fucking brain works different than anybody's.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
It's the most like, he's just looking for a pun first and foremost.
joe rogan
Well, he's just a real comedian.
unidentified
Absolutely.
joe rogan
I mean, that's what that guy is.
You can't get him to do anything else.
unidentified
No.
stavros halkias
Dude, his wedding was hilarious.
I bet it was.
I see it.
Like, you can tell.
He's a guy who's trained himself on, you know, deflecting, never, like, being emotional, ever being honest.
Or, not honest, open.
And then, dude, he was so uncomfortable in what's supposed to be the best moment of your life.
He's just like, uh...
There's no way to do a pun.
Like, he was squirming.
He had to just be like, tell his wife how he loved her.
And he's just like, can I call her gay?
unidentified
You know he would have preferred to be like, love you, homo.
joe rogan
Yeah, he probably would have preferred that.
stavros halkias
But it was a great wedding.
joe rogan
Yeah, women get upset if you don't take that thing very seriously.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
If you call her fatty in your vows.
joe rogan
That sounds totally like something he would do.
unidentified
And she'd be screaming every afterwards, it's my special day!
stavros halkias
He killed it, though.
It was an incredible wedding.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
Weddings are touch and go.
They can be great.
Schultz's was awesome.
stavros halkias
Oh, I believe that.
joe rogan
Schultz's was very good.
stavros halkias
That's a motherfucker that knows how to celebrate.
joe rogan
Yeah, he knows how to put stuff together.
He had sushi by scratch, cater it.
It was awesome.
stavros halkias
Yeah, sushi at a wedding.
joe rogan
Really good sushi, too.
A lot of comics were there.
A lot of our friends were there.
It was a good time.
stavros halkias
That's a great time.
joe rogan
It was in Montecito.
You ever been to Montecito?
stavros halkias
No.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
stavros halkias
I don't even know where the fuck that is.
joe rogan
It's in California.
It's like in the Santa Barbara area.
stavros halkias
Okay.
joe rogan
It's one of the most beautiful areas of California.
And Italian immigrants came there, and it reminded them, I think, of the Amalfi Coast.
And they sort of recreated this sort of Italian style.
It was like really good Italian restaurants, good Italian style homes.
stavros halkias
Domestic abuse.
joe rogan
Not that kind of Italian.
Not American Italian.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Those are the savage ones that got in the boats.
They're different, bro.
Italians in Italy and Italians in America are very fucking different.
It's interesting.
stavros halkias
Do you go to Italy a lot?
joe rogan
Yeah, I used to go every year.
Hell yeah.
This last year I went to Greece for the first time.
stavros halkias
Ooh, where'd you go?
joe rogan
We went to a bunch of the islands.
Beautiful.
We went to Delos.
We went to...
stavros halkias
Go to the temple?
joe rogan
Yeah, we went to all that stuff.
stavros halkias
Fuck yeah, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, man, it was fascinating.
It's so interesting being in the ruins of...
A place where these people thrived here 2,500 years ago.
stavros halkias
It's fucking wild.
unidentified
It's wild.
stavros halkias
That's what I love about the, like, even though it's the thing everybody knows about, go to the Parthenon and go into that neighborhood where it's like, you go over those cobblestones, you're like...
Some fucking guy, some like 4'8 Athenian was fucking just going up these steps, fucking fetching water, just having a shitty day, anointed his fucking girlfriend, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Leather sandals on.
stavros halkias
Yeah, leather sandals on.
He's running late to his tutoring session slash getting molested appointment.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
stavros halkias
Some children are like, I better get these formulas right or he is going to have his way with me this time.
joe rogan
Yeah, not only was pedophilia okay, But it was openly discussed.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
It's crazy.
joe rogan
Like they had boy lovers.
stavros halkias
Yup.
You were made fun of if you continued to get fucked in the ass past adolescence.
unidentified
Really?
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Oh, you silly boy.
stavros halkias
Yeah, it's like, you're being a fucking little kid.
joe rogan
What, you being a homo?
stavros halkias
You're being childish getting fucked in the ass.
joe rogan
Is that true?
stavros halkias
Dude, I swear.
joe rogan
Is that documented?
stavros halkias
Now, it's documented.
I read it somewhere eight years ago, maybe, and I've been repeating it.
unidentified
Let's repeat it.
joe rogan
Let's repeat it everywhere.
stavros halkias
I might have told it to you the last time I was on.
joe rogan
That is so insane, though.
But if you go back and read in history, like Socrates, how many of these guys had boy lovers?
stavros halkias
Probably all of them.
Probably.
It's fucked up.
joe rogan
What year do people realize that's terrible?
stavros halkias
Like 20 years ago.
joe rogan
It's probably about 20 years ago.
Dude.
stavros halkias
No, it's fucked up.
And, you know, you would read in, like, your sociology books where it's like, there's places where that's fucking, you know, you know where they're like, we can't, you know, these primitive people that we make contact with or, like, these people that don't have technology.
It's like half of them are still doing that.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
Well, there's New Guinea.
Do you know about the semen warriors of New Guinea?
unidentified
What?
joe rogan
I take it by your laughs that you do not.
stavros halkias
What a fucking epithet of the semen warriors.
joe rogan
There's a tribe in Papua New Guinea that when a child becomes six or seven, they take them away from their mother and they bring them to an older man who becomes their anal father.
stavros halkias
Their anal father?
joe rogan
Anal father.
And they believe that the only way for a boy to grow strong is that he has to ingest semen in his asshole and in his mouth.
stavros halkias
No!
Both ways?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
So these kids are just sucking cock and getting buttfucked from six, seven on.
unidentified
That's fucked up.
joe rogan
Yeah.
And it's a literal tribal tradition.
stavros halkias
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Look at my boy.
Look how he puts down that cock.
You think there's like proud fathers with a tear coming down his eye?
joe rogan
I don't think they get to watch.
I don't know what happens with the dads.
I guess the dads, I guess everybody's just used to it.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bloodletting ceremony involves beating the boys with long sticks on their nostrils until they bleed.
That way, the woman's tingoo is completely gotten rid of.
Once this is done, he's made to perform oral sex on the older ones, which they do not stop until they take in the semen.
unidentified
Damn.
joe rogan
Ingesting the semen will make them stronger.
More so, they are kept aside for three years and maintain a strict diet to make them stronger.
Defiance against this from the boys usually involves death.
stavros halkias
They've bred straightness out of their tribe.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ, they fucking killed them if they don't want to get their mouth fucked.
stavros halkias
Dude, how bad would this be if the guy who's fucking your mouth can't get hard?
You know what I mean?
He's like, alright, can you give me a second here?
The guy's just jacking off.
Alright, give me a sec.
Hey, can you pitch my nipples?
joe rogan
I want to go back to my mommy.
I want to go back to my mommy.
stavros halkias
Sorry.
You better hope you get a real pedophile who's enjoying himself.
joe rogan
I bet they're all real pedophiles.
I guess you're right.
There's no moral fucking outliers in tribal communities.
You're right.
That's a fucking rough way to live.
Did you see that guy?
The guy from New Zealand?
stavros halkias
That's the guy you gotta suck off?
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, with fucking boar tusks woven into his nose.
stavros halkias
That's brutal.
joe rogan
Fuck, dude.
Yeah.
So, do you see that guy?
There's a guy in New Guinea that's...
He was kidnapped, and they just made a video about him today.
Or I just saw it today, I should say.
Where these guys, there's like 30 dudes around him pointing a rifle at him.
And he's some journalist from New Zealand.
And they've had him hostage for 10 months.
And they've tried military operations to get him and they've all failed.
And now they're making demands.
Have you seen it, Jamie?
stavros halkias
No, I haven't heard about this at all.
jamie vernon
I'm seeing a story from February of this year.
stavros halkias
He's a journalist and he's there in New Guinea?
jamie vernon
Professor from Australia.
joe rogan
Is he a professor?
jamie vernon
I mean, there's actually a couple stories.
joe rogan
Oh, there's a...
unidentified
They're kidnapping a shitload of people out there.
stavros halkias
That's so ridiculous.
Did they kidnap them or did those guys go there?
joe rogan
That's a good question.
stavros halkias
You know what I mean?
jamie vernon
There's stories from...
joe rogan
I think once they go there, they kidnap them.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
jamie vernon
Stress commission underway.
Rebels claim New Zealand pilot taken in Indonesia's Papa.
stavros halkias
And why would you go, exactly?
Oh, these are rebels.
joe rogan
Well, I mean, there's a lot of people that have been there before because they, you know, these fucking knuckleheads, they think that they're...
You know, they're gonna, like, experience this amazing culture, and these people live a horrific war-like existence.
stavros halkias
Go to Montecito.
joe rogan
Yeah, go to Montecito.
stavros halkias
Go to Montecito.
joe rogan
Go to where Schultz got married.
I'm trying to find this for you, Jamie.
I know I got it.
stavros halkias
That's fucking brutal.
jamie vernon
Yeah, I'm working on Twitter, too.
I see some things, but I'm looking for specifically what you're saying.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's...
Oh, here it is.
jamie vernon
I got it.
joe rogan
That's it.
That's it.
Look at this poor motherfucker.
stavros halkias
Oh, my God.
Damn.
They got it right.
jamie vernon
New Zealand pilot, so yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Held by the rebels in West Papua region for 10 months.
joe rogan
Is that a jammy?
Jamie, here's the video.
I'm sending you the video.
stavros halkias
How'd he fall into his hands?
unidentified
Show him a little bit?
joe rogan
Look at that shit, man.
stavros halkias
He fell into the hands of the Liberation Army after landing his Susie Air single engine plane on a remote airstrip.
The mountainous province of Nduga, while supporting locals, get home to remote parts of the country.
joe rogan
I see.
stavros halkias
He's trying to fuck...
Oh, man.
And he's wearing the drip, too.
He's got the Papa's shirt on.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got to.
He's like, I'm with you guys.
They probably can't even read it.
stavros halkias
We don't know what that means.
joe rogan
Give us money.
unidentified
I want money and all my brothers return to me.
stavros halkias
We will fuck your mouth.
joe rogan
We fuck your mouth.
No matter what, we fuck your mouth.
stavros halkias
We started mouth fucking.
joe rogan
Let us make a deal.
We'll let you go if you come back every three months.
unidentified
Damn. Damn. Damn.
And this dude probably can't even understand a word what he's saying.
stavros halkias
He's being pretty cool for...
joe rogan
Let me hear his voice, Jamie.
unidentified
me.
joe rogan
It's interesting.
unidentified
You know how long it would take you to figure out what the fuck they're saying?
stavros halkias
No chance I would ever know.
unidentified
I think I would...
Damn, that poor dude.
joe rogan
He's been there for ten months.
stavros halkias
That's brutal.
unidentified
Fuck, dude.
stavros halkias
What do you think they let...
How does he wipe his ass, do you think?
Like, even the most minor parts would be brutal.
joe rogan
I bet he doesn't.
I bet he doesn't.
I bet he doesn't even bother anyone.
He just shits and puts his fucking shitty drawers back on.
stavros halkias
Damn, dude.
joe rogan
He's probably got one sock on.
stavros halkias
What's he eating?
Like, even the most basic stuff, let alone the 10...
They're the 40 guys with rifles.
joe rogan
Yeah, that dude lives in hell.
And I wonder if he can speak their language.
I wonder if he understands.
They got some pretty sophisticated rifling there.
stavros halkias
Yeah, they look, I gotta say, they look cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, those are serious.
stavros halkias
They look fucking sick.
joe rogan
Those are serious guns.
stavros halkias
Let's make these guys the villains in an action movie.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
They would be fucking awesome.
Let's get this guy out of there.
joe rogan
This is, like, so crazy.
They're all just no trigger discipline, all fucking pointed at him.
They have their fingers on the triggers.
Look at this guy on the left-hand side.
You're not supposed to do that.
You do that before you shoot.
You don't keep your finger on the fucking trigger.
That guy has his finger on the trigger.
Look, ready for one twitchy movement.
stavros halkias
He's so close, too.
joe rogan
That's so crazy.
They all have their fingers on the triggers.
stavros halkias
This feels like a Chris Hemsworth movie waiting to happen.
I extracted!
unidentified
Yeah, Extraction 3. Boy, that does not end well.
stavros halkias
I would do horrible in a kidnapping setting.
joe rogan
Dude, you get kidnapped on a fucking island.
stavros halkias
I'm not coming out.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
stavros halkias
I would try and kill myself.
joe rogan
I mean, I guarantee you can't drink the water that they can drink.
stavros halkias
No way.
joe rogan
There's people in certain parts of the world that are used to drinking dirty water, and they can survive off dirty water for whatever reason.
I don't know what the fuck that's all about, but they're like a horse.
You take a horse up to a river, they just drink out of the river.
Some people can do that.
We lost that a long time ago.
stavros halkias
Too much clean water from the jump.
If we were drinking bullshit from the beginning.
joe rogan
We should be back to drinking puddle water.
Hell yeah, dude.
unidentified
Now we're talking.
joe rogan
Straighten out the American gut biome.
stavros halkias
That'll bring us back.
joe rogan
Yeah, that'll bring us back.
What brings us back at this point?
I'm fucking worried about America.
I really am.
I've never been worried about America until COVID. After COVID, I was like, oh, this might be the end.
This might be just like when you go to visit Greece and the Parthenon.
You're like, what happened?
Where's everybody?
You guys left behind this fucking dope-ass building.
They literally left it behind.
unidentified
This was the first photo released back in March when they first He looks remarkably chill, I have to say.
joe rogan
Jesus Christ.
Look at the size of their arrows.
Their arrows are like seven feet long.
That's nuts.
stavros halkias
I know I shouldn't be empathizing with these guys, but they look fucking awesome.
joe rogan
They look pretty badass.
They got fucking cool shorts.
You would not want to fuck with those dudes.
But they're pointing at random shit.
Look, they're looking down their scope.
Look where he's pointed to.
stavros halkias
They're pointing at their friends.
Some of them are pointing at each other.
They're pointing at that log.
joe rogan
I shoot a log.
And this guy's shooting at the other guy's dick.
Look at him.
And he's got his...
Oh, he's got good trigger discipline, though.
The guy pointing at his friends has good trigger discipline.
But the guy to his right, to his right, to the left, that guy's got his fucking...
I can see the tension in his finger from here.
unidentified
That guy looks awesome.
stavros halkias
He's so nervous.
He's like, I want to be cool.
They're like, Mark, you get the little gun.
We don't trust you with the fucking cool shit.
joe rogan
This guy in the blue jacket, man.
He lives in hell.
stavros halkias
Brutal stuff.
joe rogan
Ten months of that?
Fuck.
And how do they get you out without getting killed and them killing you?
It's probably really hard to do.
Because they realize how valuable it is to have some Westerner that they've got kidnapped.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
What is the whole deal?
What do they want?
jamie vernon
I'll try to find something out.
This is probably not gonna show it on this article.
joe rogan
What are the demands?
stavros halkias
I was involved in talks to free a kidnapped Kiwi pilot.
joe rogan
Is that him?
Wow, this fucking guy's been there forever.
He's now been held hostage.
This was four months.
This was back in June.
jamie vernon
He's been there since February 7th.
joe rogan
Holy shit.
stavros halkias
Damn, dude.
joe rogan
The Westpapao National Independence Army kidnapped him February 7, demanding Indonesia recognize Westpapao's independence.
stavros halkias
Oh, this guy's fucked.
joe rogan
He's fucked.
He's gonna die.
stavros halkias
I was hoping maybe they'd want a couple fucking Hot Pockets, maybe some Nutter Butters.
joe rogan
Recognize our independence.
Oh, bro, you're gonna have to kill that white boy.
unidentified
That guy's done, dude.
stavros halkias
That guy's done.
joe rogan
Yeah, he's got no chance.
That's ridiculous.
stavros halkias
Or you could just be like, alright, we did it.
Like, truly...
jamie vernon
That's a promising picture.
joe rogan
Yeah, they're holding in.
Well, maybe they like the guy now.
stavros halkias
I bet he's a cool dude.
He seems like a chill guy, to be honest with you.
joe rogan
Well, he probably legitimately is there trying to help people, so he's probably a good dude.
Which sucks even more that he got got.
stavros halkias
Yeah, not some piece of shit.
Not some guy trying to start new slavery and pop up.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Some guy who's over there trafficking Filipino girls.
stavros halkias
Right, right, right.
Let him go.
Why don't they fake a news broadcast?
They probably have one flat screen TV, those guys.
Pop in a USB. You know what I mean?
unidentified
I bet they're a lot more sophisticated than we think.
stavros halkias
Yeah, probably.
joe rogan
I think in this day and age, you can't pull the wool over anybody's eyes.
With cell phones?
I bet they have cell phones there.
stavros halkias
24 hours.
Let's pretend Wes, Papa, whatever the fuck is a real country.
joe rogan
I bet Elon put a fucking satellite right above him.
stavros halkias
Yeah, let's do that.
Fucking beam in Wolf Blitzer being like, alright, they're a fucking country now.
You know what I mean?
That guy's free.
Alright, I've got this.
I'm in charge of this.
jamie vernon
Here's the most recent update about his situation, because they think he's dead.
Some people think he's dead.
He's still alive, very healthy.
joe rogan
Okay.
I just received a message from our teamwork just a few minutes ago, and they said that he is still alive.
He's very healthy at the moment.
stavros halkias
I don't know about very healthy.
joe rogan
Very healthy.
We, the Liberation Fighters, give him very good hospitality, which is if he needs some medication or water or food or whatever, they will always provide since they captured him in February.
We have our own humanitarian team inside the TPNPB so that team looks after him.
His well-being and welfare are top priority.
Yeah, because he's your bargaining play.
But the thing is like once this guy is dead, They're coming for these folks.
They're coming for these folks.
I would imagine.
If that was an American, I would imagine.
stavros halkias
Joey would have them dead.
That would fucking rally the troops.
If we get SEAL Team just blowing motherfuckers up, everybody would be wearing GoPros.
They'd edit it awesome, like an action movie.
joe rogan
Well, they wouldn't even have to hit the ground.
I mean, there's no one else there but them.
They'd just fucking storm overhead in jets or just use drones.
stavros halkias
For the optics, though.
joe rogan
The optics are pretty dope.
stavros halkias
It's got to be a jacked guy with a huge beard.
joe rogan
I think the jacked guys with the huge beards go in after the initial detonations.
stavros halkias
Right.
joe rogan
Like the drones hit, boom, boom.
People are like...
They can't hear anything.
It's just smoke everywhere.
And then some fucking jacked seal with...
stavros halkias
Yeah, an American flag tattoo on his fucking chest that's ripped.
joe rogan
Roka sunglasses on.
stavros halkias
Yes, yes, yes.
Give him a fake wound, you know what I mean?
He's not hurt at all, but we fucking slice his uniform open.
And then an actor, a paid actor, one of the guys from Captain Phillips.
We get him to pretend he's one of them, you know?
unidentified
We fucking moon landing, moon landing 2.0.
joe rogan
Yeah, total wrong accent, everything.
stavros halkias
People are like, hey man, that guy sounds fucking Mexican.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever.
joe rogan
Well, that's the thing with deep fakes.
They don't even have to fucking do that anymore.
stavros halkias
You're right.
joe rogan
Deep fakes are so nuts.
stavros halkias
I know, dude.
joe rogan
They're so nuts.
I was watching this Greta Thunberg deep fake one about electric vibrators.
I was like, this is so crazy.
stavros halkias
I was watching Obama Ice Spice.
That was pretty good.
Talking about his big fat ass.
joe rogan
There's a Trump rap song out.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
There's an AI Trump rap where Trump raps.
stavros halkias
Let's see.
I don't like that because it's taking jobs out of good Trump impersonators.
You know what I mean?
That's money out of Shane's pocket.
AI has gone too far.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
What happens with that guy?
stavros halkias
With who?
Shane?
joe rogan
Trump.
stavros halkias
Trump?
Shane's doing great.
joe rogan
Shane's doing great.
He just bought a Mercedes.
stavros halkias
I know.
It's fucking awesome.
joe rogan
I took him to the Mercedes dealership.
I was the fucking hype man.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
I was in the backseat going, dude.
I was telling him about all the features.
Dude, the back wheel steer.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Dude, he was...
So I went...
When I was here last, when I was at the mothership, I... I just...
I wanted to hit the pool.
I was like, yo Shane, let's fucking hang out.
And he wasn't there.
He was like, you can just go hang out at my house.
I'm the first person to ever...
I was just alone in Shane's house doing fucking cannonballs into his pool looking at his car.
I was just like, go in.
joe rogan
That's awesome.
stavros halkias
Feel it.
joe rogan
His house is dope.
stavros halkias
Dude, it's out of control.
joe rogan
It's very nice.
Beautiful place.
stavros halkias
Oh my god.
joe rogan
I'm so happy for him.
I'm so happy he's here too.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's so awesome having him at the club all the time, working on new shit.
It's like, we got a great vibe there now.
stavros halkias
Dude, the club fucking rules, dude.
unidentified
It's so fun.
stavros halkias
It's so awesome.
It really is.
joe rogan
It's so fun.
stavros halkias
Yeah, it's nice to just pop in.
You got the fucking...
The Bottom of the Barrel show's fun.
You're just fucking riffing.
The crowds are always good.
joe rogan
Bottom of the Barrel show is literally like a factory for premises.
You know, even if you can't recreate the moment...
stavros halkias
There's something in there.
joe rogan
Because a lot of times it's like there's a crazy moment that makes you go down a certain path.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But you have to figure out how to get to that.
Moment.
stavros halkias
Yeah, well, when you're on stage, it's like, and you're not, you're only using, it's like survival mode.
So it's like, you haven't pre-thought of anything, and there's some deep part of your brain that just something awesome will come out of that.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
10% of the time.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's enough.
stavros halkias
But that 10% is fucking, that's some good shit right there.
joe rogan
Every now and then.
Yeah, I got two last week that are like legit, that I'm like watering them.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
unidentified
I'm like, okay, you're gonna be a tree someday, little Billy.
Come on, little buddy.
stavros halkias
Put a little splint in it, one of the leafs is going fucking...
joe rogan
It's the most fun thing in comedy, is the new bits, new premises.
Making something work.
stavros halkias
It's the only thing that feels good.
It's like even being like, you know, even a sold-out theater, it's cool, but a new joke in a shitty bar feels ten times better than selling out a 3,000 seat theater.
joe rogan
Yeah, when something cracks for the first time and you realize you got something, you're like, oh boy.
stavros halkias
Oh yeah.
joe rogan
Because there's this process of creation that's just so weird.
You never know.
One day I'm going to run out of new ideas.
One day I'm going to run out of new jokes.
I'm going to be like those guys that just have the same material for 50 years.
stavros halkias
I know.
And that was what it...
I mean, it does feel weird because it's like...
I do feel like...
The last 10 years, there's been a real shift in, like, you just gotta fucking be putting shit out.
joe rogan
Well, there's so much content out there, and there's also so many people that come to comedy now.
I don't think comedy has ever been bigger.
Ever.
There's way more comics selling out arenas.
There's way more comics that have specials.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
For example, Fat Rascal on Netflix, December 5th.
joe rogan
Oh my god, that comes out tomorrow.
stavros halkias
That comes out tomorrow, yeah.
unidentified
Stavos!
stavros halkias
That's Fat Rascal.
Shot here in the beautiful Paramount Theater.
joe rogan
Great fucking theater.
stavros halkias
Really fucking awesome.
joe rogan
Cool old school theater.
stavros halkias
Yeah, dude.
It was fucking insane.
Houdini's hooks are up there.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
stavros halkias
Houdini performed there?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Wow.
stavros halkias
No, it was crazy.
joe rogan
Wow, I didn't know Houdini came to Austin.
stavros halkias
Houdini was out there, dude.
joe rogan
Houdini hit the road like Bert Kreischer.
stavros halkias
Yeah, there it is.
joe rogan
Look at you.
stavros halkias
Fat Rascal.
joe rogan
You look like Ron Jeremy, though.
unidentified
Yeah, I know.
joe rogan
A little bit.
stavros halkias
I do.
I have that vibe.
Kind of a lot.
That's the, you know, Ron Jeremy with maybe one-eighth of the penis.
unidentified
That's kind of what we're going for there.
stavros halkias
It is tough to be compared to a guy who was historically ugly, but his saving grace was a huge dick and my dick is little.
Not a great...
joe rogan
Well, I think back then, porn stars, they wanted him to be ugly so that guys didn't feel bad.
stavros halkias
Didn't feel threatened.
joe rogan
Some good-looking guy.
Like, if you're at home whacking off and some good-looking guy is getting laid, you're like, fuck him.
stavros halkias
Who the fuck is this guy?
Who does he think he is?
Look at him with a six-pack piece of shit.
joe rogan
You want a guy who looks like Ron Jeremy.
stavros halkias
That's true.
Maybe we can take it to the next level.
Maybe there's little dick porn has to start now.
joe rogan
I think they already have that in other countries.
stavros halkias
You mean just all Japanese porn?
Is that what you're saying?
I didn't say that.
joe rogan
You did.
Boy, I don't know why you said that.
stavros halkias
I felt it.
joe rogan
You know what's weird about Japanese porn is they have to blur out the dicks and the vaginas.
They blur out penetration.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's very strange.
stavros halkias
What happened?
joe rogan
I don't understand it.
I mean, what are you protecting by making confusion as to whether or not someone's...
I mean, you really don't have to have any real porn because it's all blurred out.
stavros halkias
Yeah, I mean, I will say I have jacked off to the blurred out porn.
unidentified
Interesting.
stavros halkias
And it's not...
joe rogan
Did you have no other choice?
stavros halkias
Could your hard drive crash?
Sometimes I'm in the zone, Joe.
Sometimes you want to switch it up, you know?
I like a big pillowy Asian titty to jack off to, you know?
And you want to get those straight from the source, you know?
You want to get Japanese stuff.
They're making cool noises.
joe rogan
You don't want someone who's been BBL'd in the titties.
stavros halkias
Listen, I didn't say that.
I'm just saying I want it all.
Give me a sampler pack.
joe rogan
A little bit of this, a little bit of that, a little bit of authentic.
stavros halkias
Grass-fed.
unidentified
Authentic cuisine.
joe rogan
Yeah, you want to go to Chinatown sometimes to want Chinese food.
Yeah, you don't want Panda Express.
unidentified
No, no.
joe rogan
You want to get the real deal.
stavros halkias
A little Panda Express will hit the spot.
joe rogan
It's not bad every now and then if you're at the mall and you want some orange chicken.
stavros halkias
If you're at the mall getting your dick sucked by a Zara employee in the bathroom.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
stavros halkias
Just taking the metaphor to its logical conclusion.
joe rogan
Go as far as you can go with it.
I support your thought process.
stavros halkias
But yeah, I will, I don't know, sometimes I feel worldly jacking off to Japanese porn.
You know, like watching a foreign film.
joe rogan
Like a guy who like, yeah, a guy who brags about reading old books.
unidentified
Right, right, right.
stavros halkias
Yeah, absolutely.
It's like watching a Godard film or whatever, you know?
joe rogan
When I first met Callan, first time I ever went over to his apartment, he leaves books laying out as if he's reading them.
Like he had like Steinbeck of Mice and Men.
And I go, hey, motherfucker, I know you're not reading this.
stavros halkias
Also, that's when you read in high school.
unidentified
His eyebrows raised, he goes, I do read it.
joe rogan
I go, you don't, do you?
You want people to think you're interesting.
So you leave these books out.
stavros halkias
You do, right?
joe rogan
By people, I mean girls.
stavros halkias
Of course.
joe rogan
You want girls to think you're interesting, so you leave these books out, pretending that you're worldly.
stavros halkias
You know what's so funny?
Is that I have an e-reader thing, and I was reading You know, some book about, like I was reading like about Goodfellas or like, you know, some trashy like, or not even trashy, but like a detective thing.
And then I switched it up to like, you know, something smart on the outside.
Some shit about like civil rights or something like that.
joe rogan
You can switch it on the outside?
stavros halkias
You can switch it on the outside.
I've done that before.
joe rogan
What does the outside look like?
stavros halkias
It's just like a screen.
joe rogan
There's an outside screen, too?
stavros halkias
Yeah, just the screen, right, of the e-reader, and it'll just show what you're reading.
And I was reading, like I said, some fucking book about, you know, oh, I was reading about the Phoenix Sun, Seven Seconds or Less.
I read a lot of basketball books, you know, that kind of shit.
And then a girl was coming, and I was like...
Let's do some fucking...
I don't even know what I had.
Some book I started, never even finished.
I was like, let's get this bad boy.
joe rogan
Let's pretend I'm smart.
stavros halkias
Or even like shit girls like, like a Murakami book, you know?
joe rogan
What's a Murakami book?
stavros halkias
He's good, dude.
Those are good books.
They're like dreamy Japanese book.
Back to the Japanese thing.
I don't know.
It's a book about...
The guy does a lot of like magic...
It's like some magical realism shit.
It's all about...
It's always like a guy...
There's always an insane woman who has BPD, and it's always some nerd.
And in the book, the nerd always fucks the girl really well.
I don't know what that is about.
Check it out, man.
joe rogan
These are Men Without Women.
stavros halkias
Haruki Murakami.
Great stuff.
joe rogan
What I Talk About When I Talk About Running.
stavros halkias
I haven't read that one.
joe rogan
Huh.
Norwegian Wood.
stavros halkias
Norwegian Wood's good.
I know that guy.
joe rogan
I've seen his work.
unidentified
Yeah.
stavros halkias
It's blurred out, but it's good.
joe rogan
He's the reason why Ron Jeremy had a career.
stavros halkias
Yeah, just some blonde 6'4 guy.
joe rogan
Some Fabio-looking motherfucker with a giant hog.
stavros halkias
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, and Norwegian Wood, he fucks two.
He fucks an old lady and a young woman.
joe rogan
Wow.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
That shows you what I'm getting out of literature, by the way.
It's just that it looks like...
There's some fucking like professor listening to this like that guy's dumb as shit.
That's what he gets out of Murakami, but what can I say?
joe rogan
Hey.
stavros halkias
They're nice dreamlike books.
joe rogan
Art is open to interpretation.
Different people get different things.
stavros halkias
I'm a simple man.
I see things through one lens.
joe rogan
You should be you.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
You need to be those motherfuckers.
How many professors have you ever met that are happy?
They seem perpetually conflicted and tortured.
stavros halkias
Just the ones who fuck their students, I'm pretty sure.
joe rogan
And they can't do that anymore.
That was like the main reason to be a professor.
Back in the Feynman days, those guys all banged their graduate students.
That was like part of the thing.
You get these really hot 22-year-old students that are enamored by this amazing professor with his PhD.
Full library of books that he probably hasn't read even.
He actually probably has read them, which is even more incredible.
He's not running a scam.
stavros halkias
Exactly.
That's the payoff.
Yeah, you think in the application process or the interview process, they're like, look, we can't offer you that much money, but here's a picture of all the girls that got in this year.
Here's how good.
Here's the quality.
joe rogan
No, not only do they get paid well, they get tenure.
So they can't even get fired.
But I bet they can get fired now if they bang their students.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
Also, I feel like higher...
Yeah, I think higher ed in general is fucked.
joe rogan
When do you think they stopped banging their students?
Was it the same time they stopped fucking kids?
stavros halkias
Definitely after that.
I think that was like...
joe rogan
More recent?
stavros halkias
I think that was more recent.
I think people are still picking their spots and fucking their students.
joe rogan
Really?
stavros halkias
Grads...
I think it's up to grad student now, though.
I don't think you can fuck an undergrad.
joe rogan
When I was in high school, my friend, she was 17. She was dating a Spanish teacher.
stavros halkias
I mean, that guy should go to jail.
joe rogan
He was cool.
He was the cool Spanish teacher.
stavros halkias
Oh, he was bringing in paella.
joe rogan
He was like 25. I mean, relatively, the age gap wasn't that big.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Still, she's a student at the school.
joe rogan
Yeah, but she was a little predator.
stavros halkias
Yeah, she was.
Yeah, I think at that time, that's the last hurrah of the Hades.
joe rogan
Once people started reading about the effects of it, like, hey.
stavros halkias
This is kind of strange.
joe rogan
Yeah, what do you...
Wait a minute.
stavros halkias
Maybe fuck a 21-year-old.
joe rogan
Yeah, and also, if you're a teacher...
And you can affect their grades.
How often does that happen?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
That must have been a big factor.
stavros halkias
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Big factor.
stavros halkias
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
You're a professor, and if you're banging a student, you give her A's?
stavros halkias
Yeah.
Seems, you know.
joe rogan
And if she's a sociopath, and she just wants to get ahead no matter what.
stavros halkias
Sure.
Yeah.
Look, there's definitely...
It's the thing where you're like, the guy's gotta stop it, because it's like, yeah, just because somebody wants to fuck you doesn't mean it's right.
joe rogan
Well, it's also, like, if you're a professor, and you're just...
I mean, literally, that's like you're setting up their career.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
And you hold...
You just hold too much juice over whether or not they're gonna get an A, and whether or not that's gonna allow...
stavros halkias
Yeah, the power dynamics are all fucked.
joe rogan
It's crazy.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
But it's also corruption.
Because, like...
Without a doubt, there has been grades that were given to people that professors fucked that they didn't deserve.
stavros halkias
Without a doubt.
Without question.
joe rogan
I need to do zero research to make this confidently.
stavros halkias
Yeah, I'm with you.
I'm doubling down.
joe rogan
Yeah, so that alone.
It's like, imagine if you hire someone for a firm, and you're like, look, she's got straight A's.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then she gets into the job, and she's like, she's a moron.
Like, what happened?
She fucked everybody.
stavros halkias
Maybe that's the pay gap.
You know, it started there.
joe rogan
There was an ad from, like, the 1950s about a secretary, and it was something about, uh, has your boss been ignoring you?
Maybe you needed to change your smell and, like, put different fucking deodorant on and shit.
But literally they were advertising that a secretary's, like, that that was the goal, that a secretary had.
You tried to get the boss to fall in love with him.
stavros halkias
Get a husband.
Yeah, going to college and being a secretary for a while was just like, all right, if you don't graduate with an English degree and a husband, you fucking wasted your four years.
joe rogan
I wonder if we're going to look back in the future about women entering into the workforce and, like, being forced to do...
If anyone's going to make a long-term analysis of the shift in culture that that brought about.
Because it's pretty...
Between that and birth control.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
So those two things...
Just changed the options for women.
stavros halkias
Totally.
Entirely.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, you know, every time you have sex, you don't have to worry about getting knocked up.
Every time.
Imagine if you're a woman, like a guy just wants to fuck, and you're like, I'm not, I don't think we should do this.
You don't have a condom.
It's like, don't worry about it.
I'll pull out.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And meanwhile, you might have all fucking human life grow inside you.
stavros halkias
That's brutal.
joe rogan
And he's going to whack off six hours from now.
stavros halkias
100%.
joe rogan
He's just trying to get rid of loads.
stavros halkias
Just trying to get, yeah, trying to get the poison out.
joe rogan
And if you're a guy, and, you know, when back in those days, when, I mean, you gotta imagine, it's hard for us to even contextualize what it must have been like before birth control.
And then there's the other thing.
The birth control pill is fucking terrible for them.
Terrible for them.
stavros halkias
No, I know a lot of my friends will just go off, they'll just be like, it's not worth it.
Like, if you get out of your early 20s, no kid, you're like, alright.
I can't do this to my fucking body anymore.
joe rogan
Well, it changes the way you view the world.
It changes the way what women are attracted to.
It changes everything.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're ingesting a pill that tricks your body into thinking you're already pregnant, which is just nuts.
So you're walking around perpetually pregnant.
stavros halkias
Interesting.
unidentified
Yeah.
stavros halkias
So you just want, like, to feel safe, I guess.
joe rogan
I wonder.
I mean, it's got to have some...
I mean, there must be a way to...
I mean, with really intelligent women to rationalize and understand what's going on.
But for a lot of them, that shift in the hormonal balance, it has a significant impact on what you do.
stavros halkias
No, that totally makes sense.
I wonder why the fuck we don't have any, like, sign me up for the guy pill.
joe rogan
You don't want the guy pill.
unidentified
Let me be able to bust.
stavros halkias
Why?
joe rogan
Because the guy pill kills your testosterone.
They gave a guy pill and it turned a guy trans.
stavros halkias
Oh, damn.
joe rogan
Your shoulders slump.
unidentified
Damn.
stavros halkias
Would my tits get awesome?
joe rogan
Your tits would get great.
They'd be juicy.
unidentified
You could fucking squirt on the lens.
joe rogan
I feel like there's no other way.
stavros halkias
Was there like some fake vasectomy shit you could do?
joe rogan
Well, there's a real vasectomy that you can do.
Guys can get their tubes tied, and they supposedly can put them back together again.
But it's not 100%.
It might be scar tissue.
stavros halkias
And you don't want a freeze nut.
Frozen nuts not coming out thawed nice.
joe rogan
What kind of psychopath baby are you going to have with frozen nuts?
This baby's been frozen.
stavros halkias
Moving slow.
Frozen for 30 years.
Frostbitten.
joe rogan
Bro, have you ever read in there how many doctors use their own jizz in fertility clinics?
stavros halkias
Crazy, dude.
joe rogan
It's nuts.
stavros halkias
What's even the fucking...
The psychology of that is insane to me.
I mean, I guess...
Because it's like, you think it's an animalistic thing to want to spread your seed, right?
On some evolutionary level.
But we've taken...
You're eight steps away from that, right?
Where you're not even getting...
Like, I could see...
The weird trying to fuck your patients.
joe rogan
Meanwhile, they don't even want to know the kids.
That's even more insane.
stavros halkias
They just literally want their shit out there.
joe rogan
Well, Brett Weinstein, who's an evolutionary biologist, he explained to me the difference between beautiful and hot.
He goes, you know the difference between beautiful and hot?
I'm like...
There's a difference?
What's the difference?
He goes, hot is someone that's not going to require anything from you.
You could just have sex with them right away.
And that, from an evolutionary perspective, gives you an opportunity to spread your seed without having any sort of commitment.
Whereas beautiful is someone that you want to settle down with and commit with.
stavros halkias
Renaissance painting.
Little chubby lady in the corner, you know what I mean?
Sweet face.
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
I think, you know, that thing, that was lost on me.
I never even thought about that before.
stavros halkias
Yeah, I guess I consider like hot...
More almost, like, dangerous on some level, too.
You know what I mean?
Like the Megan Fox archetype of, like, almost evil.
You know what I mean?
Like, I'm a little scared.
You know what I mean?
She's got, like, a...
joe rogan
No, tell me what you mean.
stavros halkias
Okay, so you ever seen...
Okay, she's got, like, the features where it's, like, if she was a villain in something.
You know what I mean?
Like, Jennifer's Body, that horror movie.
She was perfect for it.
Because it's, like, there is an edge to her.
You know what I mean?
There's, like, an edge to someone who has, like...
Who has like, you know, like almost femme fatale, but like not trying to hide what she is.
She's just like so just, yeah, I don't know.
I just see something.
joe rogan
Scarlett Johansson has that.
Did you ever see that alien movie that she did?
I think it's called Under the Skin.
stavros halkias
Oh, I haven't seen it.
joe rogan
It's really good.
stavros halkias
She can definitely turn it on.
You're right.
But she also has kind of like softer features, too.
There's like an angular thing.
Angelina Jolie, maybe.
You know what I mean?
There's an angular thing to it.
There's almost like, I guess, the Black Widow feel to it.
Where it's like man-eater.
This kind of thing where it's like...
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Watch out, boy.
joe rogan
She'll chew you up.
stavros halkias
Yeah, exactly.
Something like that.
A song that two gay guys wrote.
joe rogan
The Scarlett Johansson movie.
Those guys are in a legal battle with each other.
stavros halkias
Oh, man.
That's a shame.
unidentified
Sad.
joe rogan
Hall and Oates.
If they can't get along, who can?
stavros halkias
I know.
joe rogan
Hall and Oates are going to court.
stavros halkias
Some nice, easy listening.
joe rogan
Yeah.
How's Hall and Oates fighting?
stavros halkias
That sucks, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
But that Scarlett Johansson movie, she plays an alien that kills people.
An alien that kills guys.
So she seduces these guys and kills them.
stavros halkias
Oh, I love that.
Classic.
joe rogan
It's really interesting.
It's very original.
Very interesting movie.
stavros halkias
I haven't seen that one.
joe rogan
Is that what it's called?
Is it called Under the Skin?
Show a clip of it.
stavros halkias
She is insanely hot.
joe rogan
She's insanely hot.
She's hot in the really intelligent, hot woman category.
stavros halkias
But you know, she almost straddle.
Definitely.
But there's a softness.
I guess big titties is also what I'm talking about.
Round nose.
I guess I'm thinking about a sharp nose.
joe rogan
Right.
You're thinking of Nazis.
stavros halkias
Some bitch in leather.
She's going to put a ball gag in my mouth.
joe rogan
With one of those SS helmets on.
unidentified
Oh shit.
stavros halkias
Sounds pretty cool.
unidentified
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Oh damn.
joe rogan
So she assimilates.
unidentified
Mmm.
So you live alone?
Yes.
You think I'm pretty?
I'm gorgeous.
stavros halkias
Oh, man.
I would be toast.
unidentified
I'm so sorry.
joe rogan
So she picks up these guys and takes them home.
unidentified
Come to me.
stavros halkias
Well, what the fuck.
joe rogan
Yeah.
unidentified
It's pretty interesting movie.
stavros halkias
It would be so easy to track me.
joe rogan
It would be so easy to track me.
It just shows you, like, if aliens wanted to take over, they would just have to be hot women.
stavros halkias
Dude.
joe rogan
Hot manipulative women.
stavros halkias
And that's the thing.
It's like, yeah, just a hot woman.
See, that's the thing.
She's not even, like, that evil thing I'm talking about because that would almost be too on the nose.
You want just, like, a hot...
Nice woman who's just like...
joe rogan
Hot, a little bit soft.
stavros halkias
A little bit soft.
She has a little softness to her.
Absolutely.
You don't want the angular thing because that would...
Don't get me wrong.
I would still get trapped.
But going into it, I'd be like, I'm probably going to die.
joe rogan
Right.
You'd go into it going, she's probably a Nazi.
unidentified
Yeah.
Look at her face.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Look at those perfect cheeks.
unidentified
It's the Aryan race defined.
stavros halkias
Yeah, I mean, the places I've gone for head are so scary.
Like, the fucking back...
I hooked up this one girl I didn't know at all off the internet who was like...
I was like, what's your address?
And she was like, let me just drop you a pin.
And I had to go through, like, an alley into a back entrance.
joe rogan
Did you worry you were getting set up?
stavros halkias
100%.
And at the same time, I was like...
I hope I don't get fucking killed.
unidentified
But I didn't stop.
stavros halkias
And then I went and I fucked her.
It was cool.
But I was like, damn, thank God.
This would have been so easy.
So many different ways to get abducted.
joe rogan
I'm sure guys are getting got like that all the time.
stavros halkias
Constantly.
People getting robbed off Tinder.
For sure.
joe rogan
It has to be.
stavros halkias
What's the, like, a scary young Boston Joe...
You ever go into like a fucking scary place to get sucked off?
joe rogan
No, I'm lucky I never had.
stavros halkias
You were a girlfriend guy?
joe rogan
I never had a situation where I was like going into a dangerous situation for sex.
Never.
stavros halkias
You were a cute kid.
joe rogan
I was pretty cute.
I was boy friendly.
Boy handsome.
Boy pretty.
stavros halkias
A little Freudian slip.
unidentified
Boy friendly.
joe rogan
It's all that pop out New Guinea talk.
stavros halkias
You had those soft lips?
I've seen that little pic of you with the fucking earring, the earring in the leather jacket.
joe rogan
That's not good for comedy though.
I'm funnier being ugly.
stavros halkias
Yeah, for sure.
joe rogan
Yeah, when you get older, you're funnier.
stavros halkias
Absolutely.
joe rogan
It's like Matt Reif.
He takes a lot of shit because he's too beautiful.
stavros halkias
Yeah, tough.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Tall, handsome, perfect hair.
You know?
stavros halkias
It's too handsome.
A handsome Squidward jaw.
joe rogan
People shit on him for zero reason.
stavros halkias
For being sexy.
joe rogan
If he was a little guy with glasses doing the same act, no one would be mad at him.
stavros halkias
Yeah, but he wouldn't get as much attention though.
joe rogan
Probably wouldn't.
stavros halkias
That's the double-edged sword, right?
joe rogan
Right.
stavros halkias
It's like a bunch of horny women aren't coming out to a nebbishy, to 20-year-old Ari that you met with Matt Reif's act.
He's not selling out fucking arenas.
joe rogan
That is true.
He's got that going for him.
The audience is like half milfs.
stavros halkias
Totally.
joe rogan
It's a MILF thing.
stavros halkias
I might put it over half.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's a lot of these older ladies.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're still hot.
stavros halkias
Totally.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
That's nice.
joe rogan
Like a hot grandma.
stavros halkias
I love a hot grandma.
joe rogan
A hot 46-year-old grandma is pretty hard to beat.
stavros halkias
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Had them young.
Teen mom.
joe rogan
Teen mom whose kid also had kids at 18. And now she sees that young Matt Reif.
She's like, mmm, yummy.
stavros halkias
Absolutely.
I think that is who gets MILFs.
MILFs are not into me.
I do get a...
It's younger women are into me just because I think it's like the MILFs want a little handsome to feel like young again.
And I think like hot younger women want like...
joe rogan
Fun.
stavros halkias
Just a fun...
joe rogan
They want laughs.
stavros halkias
Little daddy thing too.
You're a big fat piece of shit.
They like that.
joe rogan
The thing about comics though, I think the big one is that they're funny.
And that's what's attractive.
stavros halkias
Totally.
joe rogan
Totally.
What's the percentage of women that are funny?
It's a smaller percentage than guys.
stavros halkias
Probably.
joe rogan
For whatever the reason.
There's funny women out there, don't get me wrong, but we're just being honest.
We have to grade on a curve.
stavros halkias
It's probably getting...
It goes back to the whole what we were talking about with secretaries and shit, right?
Up until very recently, You kind of had to play a subservient role where if you were funnier than a guy, you had to hide it.
Right.
You weren't rewarded for it until probably 20 years ago.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
What about rich women?
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
When rich women start dating guys who have regular jobs, what is that?
That's got to be insane.
stavros halkias
I bet you some of them like it.
I think because the women who are like- I bet they like it.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You think the dude likes it?
stavros halkias
If he knows what's good for him, sign me up, dude.
Let me be a kept man.
That sounds fucking awesome.
joe rogan
But the thing is, if the man has his own dreams of greatness...
stavros halkias
Overrated.
Over-fucking-rated.
Let me suck on a pair of freshly redone titties.
Let me tend to the pool.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
stavros halkias
Let me fucking throw on some fucking cocoa melon with our son.
joe rogan
It's your job to scoop the dog shit.
stavros halkias
Happily.
With a fucking smile on my face, dude.
unidentified
That's hilarious.
stavros halkias
I would love a high-powered woman who's just like, doesn't, isn't, thinks comedy's stupid.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
You would like that?
stavros halkias
I think I would.
joe rogan
What if she started telling you to stop going on?
stavros halkias
No, I couldn't do that.
joe rogan
Yeah, but that's what comedy stupid leads to.
stavros halkias
But I would be like...
Yeah, you're right.
joe rogan
A friend of mine is having that issue right now.
stavros halkias
Really?
joe rogan
Hot, hot girlfriend.
stavros halkias
Really?
joe rogan
And she's like, you don't need to go out tonight.
stavros halkias
Interesting.
joe rogan
I do, though.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
She's like, but you went out last night.
He's like...
stavros halkias
Yeah, it's the job.
joe rogan
This is how I get better.
I have to...
You can come with me.
stavros halkias
Maybe this.
Not stupid, but...
Would prefer if I... Doesn't mind the work ethic, but thinks it's like, you know, a low...
Like, doesn't have any, like, respect for the art form.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
A lot of people don't have respect for the art form.
stavros halkias
That's what I'm saying.
It wouldn't be hard to find.
unidentified
No, that would be easy.
stavros halkias
A rich woman doesn't...
joe rogan
Comedy is one of, like, the most disparaged art forms.
Yeah.
It's very odd in that it's one of the most difficult things to do.
It's one of the most widely enjoyed things.
stavros halkias
Very enjoyable, yeah.
joe rogan
Very enjoyed.
Like, people fucking love comedy, but...
No one takes it seriously.
When you see someone who's a serious musician, there's just a level of respect for an elite guitarist.
Like fucking Stevie Ray Vaughan or Gary Clark Jr. There's a level of respect like, wow, that motherfucker, they know their craft.
stavros halkias
Technically gifted.
joe rogan
Yeah, they have their craft.
Whereas with comedy, the problem is we're doing something that everybody does, which is talking.
stavros halkias
Talking.
Everyone thinks they can do it, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Everyone.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
A friend of mine's been bringing it up lately, and I'm like, no.
stavros halkias
That's funny to be friends with you and be like, I could do it.
unidentified
Oh, my God.
stavros halkias
His friend's not even an open-miker.
joe rogan
But everything he ever says that he thinks is funny, he laughs at his own shit, and it's terrible.
stavros halkias
Yeah, always.
joe rogan
Like, dude.
stavros halkias
That's part of the problem.
I mean, also, it's like, I love comedy.
It's the thing I, you know, my whole life has been dedicated to it.
But I also understand, I respect a guitarist more than a comedian.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah.
unidentified
You know?
You know what I mean?
stavros halkias
Like, they're right.
joe rogan
Well, they practice.
stavros halkias
Exactly, dude.
joe rogan
They actually practice when no one's around.
stavros halkias
A fine artist, like, I respect them more than fucking comedy.
And I love that, though.
I think it should be the low...
I like that we're the lowest form of show business.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's good.
stavros halkias
We're fucking idiots.
I mean, we are dumb as fuck.
We have, like, a type...
Some of us have a type of intelligence or, like...
Like, I think what I like is, like, emotional intelligence.
I can pick up on people.
But I'm not fucking reading books anymore.
joe rogan
Most of my mind...
I think my brain is essentially like a tachometer.
stavros halkias
Uh-huh.
joe rogan
Like, I can redline that bitch.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, if I have scientists and I have to have discussions with them, or if there's something serious that I have to debate about with someone, I can redline it.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
But for the most part, I'm cruising on the highway at a steady 2,500 RPMs.
stavros halkias
Yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely.
I'm a golf cart.
unidentified
I'm just going like a...
stavros halkias
Hey guys, how we doing?
Let me tell you about what time my dick didn't get hard.
That's what I'm doing.
joe rogan
Whenever I think of golf carts, I think of Jackie Gleason.
I do not know why.
There's a photo of Jackie Gleason on a golf cart.
His golf cart had a cooler built into it.
stavros halkias
Sick.
joe rogan
And Jackie Gleason just liked to play golf and get lit.
That's what he did all the time.
stavros halkias
That's a nice way to be.
joe rogan
See if you can find the photo of Jackie Gleason.
I don't know why, but this photo.
This is it right here.
Whenever I think of golf carts, I think of that photo.
That's a shit version.
Here it is.
Jackie fucking Gleason.
Look at this golf cart!
stavros halkias
Oh, it's a Rolls Royce golf cart!
unidentified
Look at this golf cart!
stavros halkias
Respect.
joe rogan
Look at this golf with an American flag on it.
stavros halkias
What a guy.
Not even an American flag, is that the first...
Is that the...
unidentified
Yeah, the first 13 colonies.
joe rogan
It said he oozes self-satisfaction, which is hilarious.
stavros halkias
Oh, hell yeah, dude.
unidentified
Look at him!
stavros halkias
He's got the horns!
He's got the horns on his windshield!
That's what I want my life to be like.
joe rogan
And listen, man, that guy got drunk constantly.
He was just always lit.
stavros halkias
Respect.
joe rogan
He was always having a good time.
Jackie Gleason had a good fucking time.
Let me hear something.
unidentified
After four or five of these good heavens, a spectator yelled out, and he said, when you play as good as that heavens, it has nothing to do with it.
Please?
joe rogan
Okay.
He played good.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
He was a really good pool player.
stavros halkias
Nice.
joe rogan
Like an elite level pool player.
stavros halkias
I believe it.
joe rogan
He's in the movie The Hustler.
Love that movie.
Yeah.
In 1963. And he's the only guy I've ever seen like that.
That's just an actor.
That when you see him play pool, you don't get offended.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Because I watch him make balls.
I'm like, oh, that guy's got a slip stroke.
He's like a real player.
jamie vernon
Dude, it's so funny.
joe rogan
Get a TV! That's amazing!
A fucking Sony TV built in it.
stavros halkias
A TV with dials in it.
joe rogan
Probably black and white.
stavros halkias
Hell yeah, dude.
joe rogan
So I can watch the game.
unidentified
Layshawn.
stavros halkias
I got this connected to the girls' bathroom.
joe rogan
Nice!
He's got a CB in there.
He's got a cooler.
Look at that shit.
stavros halkias
I mean, that's beautiful.
That's retirement, dude.
joe rogan
That's an electric cooler built into his fucking golf cart.
stavros halkias
Smoking cigarettes.
unidentified
Look at the little mustache!
joe rogan
Got the stache.
Let me hear some volume of Jackie.
Let me hear some volume of the great one.
unidentified
That's what I do to Hope when I play Bob Hope.
I drive up in this and that shakes him a little bit.
Then I show him the gold clubs.
joe rogan
It says the great one.
It says the great one on his clubs.
Go back.
Look at that.
The great one.
stavros halkias
Flexaholic, dude.
joe rogan
The fucking club literally says the great one on it.
stavros halkias
That's so fucking sick.
JG, the great one.
Gold clubs.
That's a Ric Flair ad lib.
joe rogan
He was amazing.
He was amazing.
You know, the amazing thing in The Hustler, he doesn't even talk hardly.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
I mean, he has a few lines, but he just plays this stoic pool player who's the best pool player in the world.
stavros halkias
Fats, what's his name?
joe rogan
Minnesota Fats.
stavros halkias
Minnesota Fats.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
No, I love that movie.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, there's a guy, like a real pool player named Minnesota Fats who just stole the name.
He was a hustler.
The Minnesota Fats, the guy who you see, like, he would be in these, like, exhibitions against, like, Willie Moscone back in the day.
His real name was New York Fats.
They used to call him New York Fats.
And then the movie came out and he was like, that movie's about me.
And he changed his name to Minnesota Fats.
stavros halkias
Smart man.
Worked smarter, not harder.
Like Rick Ross, basically.
The rapper Rick Ross.
unidentified
Exactly.
joe rogan
The real Freeway Ricky Ross.
stavros halkias
Freeway Ricky Ross.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Freeway Ricky Ross tried to sue him because he's using his name.
He said, nope.
stavros halkias
Rick Ross, honestly, how he got away with everything is awesome.
joe rogan
The real Rick Ross.
stavros halkias
Both.
joe rogan
Both.
stavros halkias
I think, well, Ricky Ross is crazy.
He was selling for the CIA, wasn't he?
joe rogan
Yes!
Bro, he didn't even know how to read until he got into fucking jail.
stavros halkias
That's so awesome.
joe rogan
Became a jailhouse lawyer and then realized once he was in jail that they had tried him for three strikes based on one case and you can't do that.
unidentified
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
It has to be three separate times you were arrested so he got out.
stavros halkias
So sick.
joe rogan
Yeah, he got himself out.
stavros halkias
So sick.
joe rogan
Didn't know how to read.
stavros halkias
That's awesome.
joe rogan
And he was a killer tennis player.
stavros halkias
Really?
unidentified
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Fuck yeah.
joe rogan
Freeway Ricky Ross.
stavros halkias
Did he pick that up in jail too?
joe rogan
No, when he was younger.
He was like a killer tennis player.
But like what future does he have?
He lives in Compton.
So he starts selling drugs and didn't know that he was selling it for the fucking CIA to fund the Sandinistas versus the Contras.
stavros halkias
That's so fucking hilarious, dude.
joe rogan
Wild, man.
And then you got Rick Ross who was a fucking, he was a prison guard.
stavros halkias
That's what I'm saying is like, he, because he's so good at lying and rapping and just like, you hear Rick Ross rapping and you're like, that's Jackie Gleason on a fucking golf cart.
That's fucking gold.
Marble clubs.
He's just talking about all this crazy shit.
And 50 Cent, who's the best troll of all time, he's so funny, he thought he was destroying everyone he was up against.
He's up against Rick Ross, who's stealing a real drug dealer's name, was a literal cop.
50 Cent had the pictures of him in his little uniform.
Rick Ross was just good enough at fucking rapping.
It didn't fucking matter.
He's so good at fucking, you know, luxurious rap.
Have you ever made love to the woman in your dreams in a room full of money out in London as she screams?
That's a fucking Rick Ross line.
That's fucking beautiful, dude.
unidentified
That's crazy.
stavros halkias
A room full of money in London.
joe rogan
It's like Tony Hinchcliffe had this bit that he used to do about Michael Jackson.
And he goes, Michael Jackson was so good, when Beat It came on, you didn't give a fuck about those kids.
stavros halkias
And it's true.
It is, yeah.
joe rogan
There hasn't been a single artist in all of history that was accused by multiple people of pedophilia.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
We all knew he had kids spend the night over his house.
It was all sick and weird.
stavros halkias
Yeah, really fucked up.
joe rogan
He literally turned his fucking house into a honeypot for kids.
unidentified
I know.
stavros halkias
The Cat Waves kit is so good.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
stavros halkias
Where he's like, I have shit in my house that bitches like.
He was like, I don't like silk pillowcases, but bitches do.
And then he's like, now what does Michael's house have?
It's just like a Ferris wheel.
He's like, who do you think he's trying to fuck?
I know.
joe rogan
People were giving him so much shit about that bit.
stavros halkias
Dude, that, first of all, that might be my favorite special of all time because he's just...
joe rogan
Is that Pimp Chronicles?
stavros halkias
Yes.
And he just comes out in the green.
In the middle of it, he dances to his own song on Dipset.
Just in the middle of it.
Little John comes out.
He's fucking crushing it.
And it's a shorter special, but he's got the fucking turbo button.
The whole time.
He's crushing the whole time.
The act-outs are out of control.
Everything is so good.
And in that special is my favorite Michael Jackson bit and my favorite bit about the Iraq War, where he's just like, what does the Iraq Army's uniform look like?
I'll wait, tell me.
And then he's talking about how insurgents, he's like, we're killing motherfuckers in flip-flops, sweatpants.
And it's a bit in between two bits.
Like, it's almost in the side.
And it is literally as good as any political comic, because he just gets to the fucking heart of the matter.
That special's fucking unbelievable.
joe rogan
Yeah, he had a run.
He had a run for a few years when he was on the top.
stavros halkias
And he still, that's the thing, it's like, maybe culturally it's not what it used to be, but from, like, the numbers, like, people still fucking watch Cat Williams a ton, dude.
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, it's just, I'm saying, like...
stavros halkias
Oh, yeah, he was on fire.
joe rogan
Yeah, he was on fire.
stavros halkias
Pimp crime.
Truly that special.
I thought, you know, I go back and forth, but that...
I mean, it's on the Mount Rushmore for me of just like...
joe rogan
It's pretty damn good.
stavros halkias
And it captured something.
It's so, you know, of that 2000s era of like...
You know, that's what I... Yeah, I mean...
joe rogan
Look at him.
stavros halkias
He looks incredible.
joe rogan
Look at that jacket.
Give me some of this volume.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
Sweat your perm out his own song in the middle of a special.
unidentified
Look at him.
stavros halkias
Oh yeah, this is about baseball.
unidentified
In the middle of a special.
joe rogan
Look at the size of his belt buckle.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
Look at that belt buckle.
stavros halkias
Look at those knees.
The man's a dancer.
joe rogan
Well, you can move like that when you weigh 130 pounds.
stavros halkias
It's quite a bit easier.
He's just in the middle of a special.
And it doesn't stop him at all.
unidentified
Like, imagine. - Can you get it out, Jack?
joe rogan
He came out with a tiger once.
Did you ever see that special?
stavros halkias
No, that's awesome.
joe rogan
He had a special with a tiger in a cage behind him.
Was it a tiger or a lion?
Some giant-ass cat.
stavros halkias
Think about how hard it would be to follow Little John in the height of his fame.
Coming out in the middle of a bit.
Cat Williams doesn't give a fuck, dude.
joe rogan
Well, he wants him there.
stavros halkias
That's what I'm saying.
That's such a flex.
This isn't going to affect me at all.
I'm in total control of all you motherfuckers.
And by the way, you can tell, I think he shot that in one go.
There's no multiple shows.
It's fucking incredible.
He was on top.
So fucking good.
But yeah, that Michael Jackson bit he did was so fucking good, and he was just the man.
And it's cool, because he's also a great actor.
When he was in fucking Atlanta, he was fucking awesome.
joe rogan
I never saw any of that.
stavros halkias
Atlanta's a great show.
He's just got so much depth, and he's such an interesting person.
Imagine coming back from getting in a fight with a child.
By like a middle schooler.
unidentified
Yeah.
stavros halkias
And it's like, he's doing arenas like two years later.
Everyone's like, well, that's it for Kat.
That one time when he's just completely destroying that some woman on the radio.
Have you seen that?
She is trying to go after him in the softest way possible.
And he is demolished.
It's like when he was coming back from his troubles and shit like that.
And this woman has no idea what she's doing.
He's just calling.
He's like, fuck, I forget what it is.
But it's like him on, I don't remember what radio show, but it's like.
joe rogan
So they took a caller?
stavros halkias
No, she's like a host.
And he's like, you know, he's just fucking being chill, whatever.
And it's just like, he's just such a genuine guy that you can't shake him.
And he's funny.
He's so fucking funny.
What are you thinking?
This woman, I don't know.
I don't remember what he said to her.
It's, you know, if you can find it, Jamie, but like, it's one of the funniest things I've ever seen in terms of like just destroying a woman.
Destroying.
joe rogan
That's the only reason to go on one of those radio shows.
unidentified
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Well, Sam does it where he goes on morning shows and talks about how each...
Yes, this is it.
unidentified
Okay, give me.
stavros halkias
Kellyn's versus Wanda Smith.
katt williams
My hair is 19 inches long and I have no perm.
unidentified
That's not a perm.
No, it is not.
Come run one of your gnarled fingers.
Gnarled?
That's right.
They don't have to.
I don't want them to.
Get on out of here.
You okay?
stavros halkias
Gnarled fingers.
unidentified
Yeah, they're old.
joe rogan
His clothes are old.
unidentified
It doesn't matter.
I want to apologize to the people at Versace Collection.
This is your 2019 summer line that hasn't come out.
We're going to a break real quick.
joe rogan
He's got old ass clothes.
stavros halkias
He says runnishless collection.
unidentified
They don't remember me for a while now, right?
I'm not the right one.
Get this inmate out of here.
If you can't get your blood pressure down, you can't call me down.
Your cholesterol is 600. I'm little mama's baby daddy.
No, you little mama.
stavros halkias
She's so nervous, dude.
Look at her.
Look at the nervous laughter.
unidentified
I've never been to prison.
19 felonies, no convictions.
Prison and jail aren't the same.
No, no.
No, no, no.
No, no, no.
Only one of us has $12 worth of jewelry on it.
If you want to If you want to have Wanda's jewelry Please go to sit, go At any point If you buy two packs of Newport 100 They will give you everything Wanda has on right now For $7.99 Come on down He's destroying this bitch She has no idea what she's up against.
stavros halkias
On her own show.
unidentified
Oh my god!
stavros halkias
I mean, dude, just comes with a pack of new points.
You get everything she has on for $7.99.
joe rogan
How does she recover from that?
How do you recover from that?
stavros halkias
I think you have to quit.
joe rogan
And when you go back to work tomorrow and everybody's like, how you feeling?
stavros halkias
Dude, that follows you for a year.
joe rogan
Especially if she reads the comments and you know she reads the comments.
stavros halkias
Dude, that video is just...
That's what people will know her from.
joe rogan
How about she saying he has old clothes on?
stavros halkias
He looks awesome.
joe rogan
First of all, you know he's rich.
unidentified
Kat Williams is rich, rich, rich, rich.
joe rogan
So he's been doing arenas for decades.
stavros halkias
Yeah, she's the fourth mic on a fucking radio show.
Come on, lady.
joe rogan
What is that?
You got old clothes on.
stavros halkias
It's a woman completely out of her depth who doesn't, who didn't appreciate that everybody was, you know, rightfully, like, respecting Kat as a fucking legend, and she probably just didn't like it.
joe rogan
She thought she was gonna get over on him.
stavros halkias
How?
How do you think that?
joe rogan
People are delusional.
jamie vernon
I'm looking at this.
unidentified
What?
jamie vernon
This story went crazy.
joe rogan
Oh no, did it?
jamie vernon
Apparently at a show of his in Atlanta, her husband pointed a gun at him.
unidentified
It says it's because of his ridicule of her.
Dude, imagine getting got so well.
stavros halkias
Imagine getting roasted so bad, your husband points a gun at the guy.
joe rogan
Following the interview in the alleged altercation to be Williams and Sellers, Smith addressed both on air.
She said that at the comedy theater, Williams saw her and approached her and said, I told you, fucking with me will make you go viral.
This led to sellers chasing Williams into a Food Depot supermarket.
Because of legal reasons, Smith couldn't talk further about the altercation.
But she did discuss feeling attacked during her interview with Williams.
unidentified
Oh!
stavros halkias
The victim card!
Incredible, dude.
joe rogan
Good luck playing that card with that video.
stavros halkias
Oh my god.
joe rogan
I felt like, as he started to talk in the beginning, he had an agenda to attack me, and I kept feeling some type of way, she explained.
Crazy.
Okay.
He kind of came for me, and I'm not that kind of comedian.
She's a comedian?
stavros halkias
Oh my god.
joe rogan
Like, I don't go tit for tat.
When he started coming at me, it kind of threw me off.
I didn't know how to come back, because that's not how I wanted to talk to him, because of the respect.
stavros halkias
Oh, now it's respect.
joe rogan
I'm not playing victim, she said.
I'm not a jokester like that.
I don't know how to do that.
He did it.
He won.
It threw me off.
Oh my God.
stavros halkias
Just take the L, lady.
unidentified
Oh my God.
stavros halkias
It's like, yeah.
I put some smoked salmon up my ass and waved it in front of a bear's face, and it attacked me, and now I'm sad.
unidentified
Worse!
joe rogan
You pimp slapped the bear!
unidentified
It's insane, dude.
joe rogan
I mean, she went after him, 100%.
stavros halkias
Crazy.
And he was letting her off easy.
And then at the end, when he's got the special bar charged up, he does his finishing move on her, she's fucked, dude.
joe rogan
Well, when he started with, run your gnarled fingers.
stavros halkias
Gnarled fingers!
That's like, lady, that's the warning shot.
joe rogan
Yeah, you're fucking with an elite comic.
And also, he's real comfortable and relaxed.
And he's got his Starbucks.
stavros halkias
He's the man, dude.
joe rogan
He's ready to go.
Oh my god, that was like one of the best takedowns I've ever seen.
stavros halkias
It was fucking incredible.
joe rogan
But that's like a Mike Tyson fight in the 80s.
It's like, what are you doing in there with him?
stavros halkias
It makes no sense.
You're a fucking tomato can.
joe rogan
This is a terrible idea.
How did you think this was gonna turn out?
stavros halkias
I know, I know.
He's the fucking man.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Do you do radio anymore?
Do you ever do that?
stavros halkias
Not really.
joe rogan
It used to be the thing that you did.
stavros halkias
I know, it just doesn't...
Like, I did it...
joe rogan
It doesn't work.
stavros halkias
At the very end of, like, when I first started headlining and, you know, playing, like...
I would feature, and then I would do the Sunday or something like that, you know, or the Thursday.
I did it a couple times, but I was like, why am I up at fucking 5am?
If it moves two tickets, you're lucky.
And it's just like, now it's like we kind of do the...
Like, I'll do the shows that, you know, depending.
I'll do some, you know, Lebitard is a really great show.
I'll do that.
I'll do...
But even those shows, it's like, he's also a podcast now, or like, I'll do local, you know, in certain markets.
I'll do Baltimore when I go home.
Shout out to my boy Justin Schlegel.
I'll do his show because, you know, he was one of the guys that started ahead of me.
And it's still a good show in the market, like 98 Rock, whatever.
But it doesn't feel worth it anymore, dude.
joe rogan
I kept doing Boston long after I stopped doing other places.
Same thing.
stavros halkias
Yeah, because it matters.
It means something.
joe rogan
Yeah, but man, it used to be radio was fun.
Well, radio was probably what led me to get into podcasting.
stavros halkias
Oh, interesting.
joe rogan
Because I would do radio shows.
I'd go, God, I want to do one of these.
This would be fun.
No one would ever give me one.
stavros halkias
Right.
Yeah, better buy a shitty microphone.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Just record.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Goddamn.
joe rogan
It's kind of...
It used to be the only way to sell tickets.
That's insane.
It's kind of gone.
stavros halkias
I think it is gone.
I mean, I assume...
I think maybe some part...
Like, I guess...
I don't know if, like, Bob and Tom is still big.
joe rogan
It used to work, though.
It used to work.
Like, if you went to Columbus and you did...
What was that?
There's a fucking...
There was a...
God, I can't remember their name.
jamie vernon
The morning zoo was big there for a while, and then there was another show.
Depending on the year you're talking about.
stavros halkias
But no, you're right.
I mean, if we really think about it, it really was like podcasts.
Because it's like how there's a ton of...
Even though there's like 200 podcasts that do really...
Just off the top of my head, you know, comedy podcasts.
There's a ton of successful ones.
It's the same way where it's like every market had a place where a guy was a fucking celebrity.
In their little town, you couldn't fuck with that guy, dude.
He was like a fucking Don.
And that has kind of gone away because now it's like...
joe rogan
Yeah, they were the morning guy.
The morning guy was the fucking man.
stavros halkias
The brass ring, dude.
That's who he wanted to be.
joe rogan
Isn't that crazy that that went like blockbuster?
Blockbuster video, just like...
stavros halkias
Totally.
Well, and it's like, you know, those shows were like...
I mean, again, I barely did them.
I did a lot of them.
Did you feel like you could be funny on there?
You just had to be, right?
joe rogan
I would show up lit.
Always.
Always.
I never did those sober.
stavros halkias
Just fucking high or drunk or...
joe rogan
I'd be barbecued.
stavros halkias
That's awesome.
joe rogan
Just barbecued.
stavros halkias
That's hilarious, dude.
joe rogan
Just not knowing what I was talking about 15 seconds after I was talking.
This house was the most loose.
It's 6 o'clock in the morning.
Give me a big cup of coffee and a joint.
stavros halkias
Let me go.
joe rogan
Let me go.
Let's go.
stavros halkias
Let's get into it.
joe rogan
Yeah, let's have some fun.
And, you know...
I've drank on the radio, too, but that's hard, man, because then you go back to your hotel room and crash, and then you feel like shit at, like, 2 p.m.
stavros halkias
Oh, fuck.
I didn't even think of that.
Yeah, because the show's got to come after you.
That's the fucked up part.
joe rogan
Yeah, but if you're on a radio show and you're having fun, you've got to go.
I mean, this is like the advertisement to get people to come see you.
stavros halkias
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
So you're fucking around, having a good time.
stavros halkias
If you're crushing it, you've got to stay on.
Yeah.
joe rogan
You've got to have a good time.
But I always used to think, like, that would be the job, man.
Have a fucking radio gig would be the job.
stavros halkias
You figured it out.
joe rogan
I don't know what the fuck happened.
What are you talking about?
stavros halkias
This is exactly that.
Except you don't have to fucking...
You can talk about whatever the fuck you want.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Exactly.
That's why I never would have gotten one of those jobs.
They would have said, hey, hey, you can't talk about the pyramids again.
I'd be like, but hold on!
stavros halkias
Come on, dude.
There's no way those motherfuckers made them.
It was a fucking alien, beamed us the fucking knowledge.
joe rogan
Also, you would have executives.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
You would have a bunch of fucking, like, they would have meetings with the, like, I was friends with Kevin and Bean in LA. That was like one of the last shows that I ever did.
They were, no, they were the last radio show that I would ever willingly do.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah.
Just because they were your boys.
joe rogan
They were fun.
They were good dudes.
And, you know, when they got fired, man, they just got fucking, they just got told they were fired and they weren't even allowed to go in the building to get their stuff.
And they were there for like 25 years.
stavros halkias
I mean, that's fucking brutal.
joe rogan
But that's how those corporations work, man.
Fuck you, pay me.
Get out.
It's a business.
stavros halkias
It's not art.
And they bled their industry dry, and it kind of made way for independent stuff, independent pot.
And it's like, they thought they could do that because they were a monopoly, and then...
In five years, it was like anybody could do their own show.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, I remember when I first started talking about doing it, like, radio guys were so dismissive.
unidentified
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, why are you doing that?
unidentified
Yeah.
stavros halkias
This is our thing.
joe rogan
Well, Howard Stern used to talk about it openly.
Yeah.
These people are idiots.
Like, what are you doing?
Waste your time podcasting.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's kind of hilarious.
stavros halkias
It really is.
But, I mean, you also get it because it, like, it's, of course, it threatens them because it's like, yeah, I'm just going to do it.
I'm going to do the thing you...
joe rogan
I get it, but I don't get it because things that threaten me, I don't attack.
unidentified
Right.
stavros halkias
Right.
joe rogan
I embrace things that threaten me.
If there's something that threatens me, if there was something like a podcast, if I was a radio host and podcasts were killing, I'd be like, I need to get a fucking podcast.
And I'd probably start talking openly about it to put pressure on my contract negotiations.
I'd be like, why don't I just get a...
stavros halkias
I have enough money.
joe rogan
I have enough money.
Why do I have a boss?
Why do I have a job?
Why do I have shareholders?
Why do I have stocks?
stavros halkias
Well, do you think it's a little bit of like what happens when, like, it's not so much a, I mean, I guess it happens now, too, where it's like, like, if somebody gets big off purely TikTok, right, or somebody does, like, funny videos, and then they start selling out comedy clubs, don't you think they looked at podcasters that way, where they're like, they don't know how to They don't know how to be a radio guy.
joe rogan
Well, I mean...
stavros halkias
Because I feel that sometimes where I'm like, these fucking guys can't put together an act.
Or whenever a celebrity gets canceled, now all of a sudden they're fucking comedians.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
Right, that does happen.
stavros halkias
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
That's like actors, their last hope.
stavros halkias
Right.
Again, back to what comedy is, where comedy is.
It's like, well, if you are a rapist...
Come on to the comedy club.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
stavros halkias
It's like, that's how we're respected.
joe rogan
Well, like, TikTok made Ralph Barboza, but I think he's gonna make it.
stavros halkias
But he's a good comic.
joe rogan
He's a good comic.
stavros halkias
That's the difference.
joe rogan
But he was a middle act.
And then all of a sudden he's, like, headlining and selling out four, five, six shows in a row.
stavros halkias
But that's the thing.
It's like...
If you're like that, he's good.
He's a good comic and he works hard as fuck.
Somebody who makes it off of the strength of their jokes is different from like, let's say you do skits.
unidentified
Right.
stavros halkias
Or you're a personality.
joe rogan
Right.
stavros halkias
And like somebody like, like, Drewski's really funny.
That guy's hilarious.
And he goes on the road and he does his own thing.
He has his own show.
He's not doing stand-up.
He's like taking the experience of what makes him good.
But then you see other people who don't have that, like, imagination.
They don't want to work hard and craft their own special live show.
And they're like, I could do Stan.
The way we were talking about it.
Imagine if your friend, who's not funny at all, blows up because he puts a wig on and pretends to be a woman on TikTok.
joe rogan
You know what I mean?
stavros halkias
I mean, not him.
Yeah, but you know what I'm saying.
It's that...
joe rogan
Very rarely do I say it's never gonna happen.
stavros halkias
Hypothetically, a guy like that, it happens, and they have no stage presence.
They have nothing interesting about them.
And all of a sudden, they can sell out a fucking improv for the weekend.
And now, hopefully, Organically, people will stop going to see them if they're bullshit.
joe rogan
Or they can figure it out.
Like, come up with something that they can do.
Maybe show video clips.
Maybe talk about things.
Have a projector behind them.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Somewhere they can juice it up.
stavros halkias
Right, right, right.
Some bullshit.
joe rogan
Yeah, somewhere they can juice it up.
stavros halkias
More often than not, though, I think if they figure it out, they become hacks.
Because hack works.
You know what I mean?
Right.
That's why it's...
That's why it's hack.
joe rogan
Well, you know, Tom Green is a really good comic now.
And Tom Green, you know, was doing movies and all that other stuff and sketches, the Tom Green show.
And now he's doing stand-up.
stavros halkias
Well, he's a super imaginative, very, like, creative guy.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
You know?
joe rogan
He's also super unique.
He's also the main reason why I did this podcast.
stavros halkias
The Tom Green show?
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
That was awesome.
The online one.
joe rogan
His talk show that he did.
I remember I went to his house.
It was, like, 2007. And I was like, this is crazy.
You've got wires running through your living room.
He had servers there.
A whole room dedicated to hard drives and servers and some crazy internet connection.
It was wild.
And I was like, dude, you've just got to figure out a way to monetize this.
This is it.
This is the future.
No executives.
No one will tell you what to do.
I think I started doing versions of, like, web shows after.
And then the other one that got me into it was doing the Opie and Anthony show.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Because it was such a hang.
stavros halkias
Totally.
joe rogan
It was just a hang.
There was no organization to it at all.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
Bunch of funny guys, Patrice and Voss and Norton, and everyone just hanging out.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
Shitting on each other.
That was the predecessor.
That was like the...
joe rogan
That was the predecessor of the podcast.
stavros halkias
That was the thing, yeah.
joe rogan
Especially when they went to XM and they were unfiltered.
stavros halkias
You can say whatever the fuck you want.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
It's so funny to hear the clips from when they were on terrestrial radio and you're like, they're like, easy, Patrice.
And they're like, oh, wait, he can't say...
Yeah, he can't say anything.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
But yeah, it is very...
It's fascinating.
But yeah, I guess that's what the radio guys were thinking.
But I agree with you.
You should try and understand what the fuck's going on, not feel threatened.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, I get why you would feel threatened.
I just don't think it's productive.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's just like, how's it going to help you to shit on something that is obviously killing it?
stavros halkias
Once you're already successful, the people get set in their fucking ways.
Mm-hmm.
joe rogan
Yeah, well, especially if you're, like, a Howard Stern type dude.
You're the biggest guy ever in radio.
And then something's coming along that's taking over radio.
Like, no way.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
Impossible.
stavros halkias
Although, I will say, none of us have an awesome black midget that we bring on.
joe rogan
Dude, you couldn't anymore.
stavros halkias
Beetlejuice rocks.
joe rogan
Imagine if...
Imagine if he bailed on his contract and said, you know what, I've got a billion dollars in the bank.
I'm firing all the executives, I'm buying a warehouse, and I'm going to just build a wild-ass studio in there and just do podcasts.
And go back to Howard Stern from the 80s.
stavros halkias
Yeah, but at a certain point you kind of You're not that guy anymore, either.
joe rogan
That's true.
stavros halkias
Your temperament changes, you know?
joe rogan
Well, he got real scared of the virus.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
He, like, didn't go into the city for, like, fucking two years.
stavros halkias
Yeah, that's wild.
unidentified
Yeah.
stavros halkias
I just wish...
I just want to see Beetlejuice back.
That's another one of my classics.
unidentified
Is he still alive?
stavros halkias
I think...
Oh, yeah.
He's thriving.
joe rogan
How?
stavros halkias
I don't know.
I don't know, but I do like to throw on some Beetlejuice clips.
jamie vernon
I saw a clip of his sister.
stavros halkias
Yeah, him and his sister.
jamie vernon
It became a thing.
stavros halkias
Looks exactly like him.
unidentified
Oh, Jesus.
stavros halkias
My favorite one is when they trick him into thinking he's talking to Obama.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
Was it an Obama impersonator?
stavros halkias
The guy was barely doing a voice.
And he's going like, fuck you, Obama.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
stavros halkias
Beetlejuice had a personal beef with him because he said he wrote a letter to his mother.
joe rogan
Oh my god.
You remember when Opie and Anthony got kicked off the air because they had a homeless guy on that said he was going to rape Condoleezza Rice?
stavros halkias
Now that's radio, baby.
joe rogan
This was on Sirius.
This was on XM, where they thought they could get away with anything.
Like, nope, there's a fucking line.
They didn't even know the guy was going to say it.
unidentified
Yeah.
stavros halkias
That's fucking hilarious.
To be like, this is what we need to do.
This is what we need to have radio.
What radio waves were created for.
A homeless guy.
jamie vernon
Three million followers on Instagram.
unidentified
There he is.
joe rogan
Wow.
jamie vernon
Killing it.
joe rogan
Good for him.
stavros halkias
Shout out to Beat.
joe rogan
Good for him.
stavros halkias
He's the man.
joe rogan
Look at him hanging out with Manny Pacquiao and Mike Tyson.
stavros halkias
I believe that's a Photoshop.
joe rogan
So what?
Let's pretend it's real.
jamie vernon
Conor's there?
joe rogan
Let's pretend it's real.
That's Roberto Duran, Conor.
Let's pretend it's real.
stavros halkias
I would love to pretend it's real.
joe rogan
I like to think it's real.
stavros halkias
In my heart it is.
joe rogan
Look at him, he's answering a very important call.
He's on the phone with Obama right there.
stavros halkias
Oh, fuck, dude.
So you started doing radio just to promote when you started headlining?
Yeah, on the road.
Yeah, I did a little bit before.
joe rogan
I mean, you would do it anytime anybody would want you on a radio show.
stavros halkias
It was like a big...
joe rogan
Yeah, but it was almost always when you were doing a road gig.
Yeah, I remember the first ones I did were in Connecticut.
I was living in New York.
You get gigs in Connecticut.
You'd have to go and do a literal tiny town morning show that reached...
Five miles.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You know, in each direction.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
But that's how you got people to come see you.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
It was like the pioneer days.
stavros halkias
Totally.
joe rogan
You know, it was literally, you're on a covered wagon making your way across the country.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
You know?
stavros halkias
I know.
I do.
I mean, it's so funny to think about when you're, like, to, like, want that shitty, the old days, you know what I mean?
Like, the old one-nighters and shit.
Because, I mean, it wasn't as good.
Like, I caught, again, like, the tail end of that, where it was like, You're playing fucking wherever.
And it's like everywhere had...
The comedy clubs were very shit.
Like, when you were coming up, was it like right after a boom and it was like kind of down?
joe rogan
Yes.
stavros halkias
It was like not good.
joe rogan
There was a boom in the 80s.
So the boom in the 80s was like 84 to 88. And I came around in 88. Okay.
And back then, it was really strange.
There was a bunch of comics that really were like...
Lounge acts, but not a lounge act like a lounge act comedian, like a lounge act comic.
Like they weren't even really comedians.
stavros halkias
Interesting.
joe rogan
They would just talk about things with a comedy timing.
stavros halkias
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
There was nothing there.
There was a bunch of these guys.
stavros halkias
Because it just could sustain that.
Comedy was so successful.
joe rogan
They would just laugh.
And so they would pick premises that other people had covered.
And some of them were like arrogant.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
It was bizarre.
Like, you're fucking terrible.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But they had this weird sort of way of delivering material that sounded like they were a comedian.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
They had their sleeves rolled up.
They would talk about things.
stavros halkias
A little blazer.
joe rogan
God, there was a lot of them, man.
stavros halkias
Like doing Seinfeld's Cadence, but with nothing underneath it?
joe rogan
Something like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They had a way of talking that made them sound like a comedian.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
And there was a lot of them, man.
And some of them were headliners.
It was crazy.
It was crazy.
It was like the whole world wanted comedy.
And then it kind of died off.
And then it died off and a bunch of the clubs went under and all the TV shows dried up.
There used to be like Evening at the Improv and MTV Half Hour Comedy Hour and all these different shows where you could go on and you could do five minutes and if you killed, all of a sudden you're headliner on the road.
You might have seen him on MTV's Half Hour Comedy Club.
stavros halkias
So that's TikTok back then.
joe rogan
Something like that.
stavros halkias
It's like a five-minute spot.
joe rogan
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah, and then you could do the road.
And so you wanted to have some sort of a credit.
Like if they saw you, oh, evening at the improv.
Oh, it's cool to see you.
And then, you know, you had a credit.
And hopefully you could put together 45 minutes and close.
But there was...
It was so many comedians.
But it wasn't the quality that there are today.
Not even close.
Like, there are so many at the top end.
Like, back then at the top end...
There was a dozen.
stavros halkias
Like the NBA in the 50s?
joe rogan
Right.
stavros halkias
It's like, okay, five of those guys could play today, but most of them were fucking dog shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
There was maybe a dozen, like real good comics.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Now there's fucking hundreds of them.
stavros halkias
A lot of good comics.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of them, man.
stavros halkias
Well, it's harder to kind of stand out, I think, a little...
But also, it's just, it's the natural order of things.
It's like, as long as something goes on, shit's gonna get better.
I mean, I do think about sports as the analogy.
Like, I mean, UFC, UFC 1 is one of the funniest things of all time, where it's like a guy with one boxing glove.
joe rogan
Right.
unidentified
You know what I mean?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
stavros halkias
And then you flash forward to now, and it's like, you have like, you know, fucking, you know, the fucking, all the Dagestani motherfuckers that are just trained to destroy people.
It's like, you drop that guy into UFC 1, You know what I mean?
It's like fucking crazy.
joe rogan
Yeah, they would steamroll everybody.
But that sport is the most obvious example of something that is almost unrecognizable from 30 years ago.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
Because the first UFC was 30 years ago.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
And if you go to 1993 to 2023, the difference is so fucking stark.
unidentified
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
The people are so good now.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's nuts.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
We had the DVD of UFC 1, and it's just so funny to watch Ken.
Because we were wrestling fans, and it's like, I heard Ken Shamrock fought in this thing.
That was the draw for us, for me and my brothers.
And you just watch, and you're like, what the fuck is this?
joe rogan
World's most dangerous man.
stavros halkias
And they were fighting every day?
All those fights happened in one day, right?
joe rogan
Yeah, they had multiple fights in a day.
stavros halkias
That's fucking wild.
joe rogan
Yeah, they did a lot of those.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
They did a lot of those up until, like, the late 90s.
And then they started doing individual matches.
stavros halkias
So were you fighting when you were also, like, starting comedy?
Was that, like, your dual life?
unidentified
Yes.
joe rogan
Yeah.
I had three kickboxing fights while still doing stand-up.
But then I realized I can't do it.
And I was not all in in fighting or comedy.
So not being all in in fighting is fucking dangerous.
You're gonna get stomped.
And then not being all in in comedy, I was like, what am I doing?
Why am I doing this?
stavros halkias
I mean, there's plenty of guys like that.
Getting drunk.
Trying to get pussy after open mics.
joe rogan
But it was really just not knowing what I wanted to do with my life.
And not being very good at comedy.
And still pretty good at fighting.
stavros halkias
It was easier at the time.
joe rogan
Yeah, I was like, maybe this is what I should do.
Maybe I should go all into that.
But with fighting, if you have a thought in your head that you maybe shouldn't be doing this, you better get out now.
stavros halkias
Right, right.
joe rogan
You really should get out now.
stavros halkias
Even that much doubt kills you.
joe rogan
Because the guys who don't have that much doubt are going to fuck you up.
Because me, when I was 20, would have fucked up me when I was 22. Yeah.
You know, because I was a different person.
When I was all in, that's all I did.
I would wake up in the middle of the night kicking.
I would have a fucking kicking dream.
So I'd literally throw kicks in the middle of the night.
stavros halkias
Yeah, like dogs running in their sleep.
unidentified
Exactly.
stavros halkias
It was you fucking sparring.
joe rogan
But it was just, I didn't know what I was going to do.
And I was like, I don't know if I can really make it as a comedian.
And then I just had to pick one or the other.
stavros halkias
Did you just get your shit split once and you were like, I can't do this?
joe rogan
I lost my last fight.
I got TKO'd in my last fight.
But it was also, I fought three times in a night.
I won the first two fights.
Stopped the first guy in the first round.
Second guy I beat the fuck out of.
And the third guy, I was exhausted.
And I beat him up in the first round and then I got clipped with the left hook.
And dropped.
And it wasn't too bad.
It wasn't like the next day I was fine.
I was fine like an hour after the fight.
But it was enough where I was like, okay.
Like part of me was like, you can't go out on a loss.
Get back in there.
You can beat that guy.
You're already fucking him up.
You should have been in better shape and you shouldn't have had two fights that day.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
But the other part of me was like, no, no, no, no, no, no.
This is a good way to end this fucking thing.
And by the way, I've been doing that to other people for so long.
To me, to get beat up a little bit was probably good for me.
stavros halkias
The circle of life.
joe rogan
It was good.
It was like, you need it.
stavros halkias
Were you like a kid that was into fucking Taekwondo and shit?
joe rogan
Exactly.
stavros halkias
That's what happened.
joe rogan
Yeah, in high school.
Found that.
Became obsessed.
Trained every day.
stavros halkias
And before that, what was your shit as a little-ass kid?
joe rogan
I was into art.
stavros halkias
Okay.
joe rogan
Yeah, I wanted to be a comic book illustrator.
stavros halkias
Oh, sick, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, I wanted to make comic books.
stavros halkias
Can you draw?
joe rogan
Oh, yeah, real good.
stavros halkias
Oh, I didn't know that.
joe rogan
Yeah, that was my shit.
I used to draw.
stavros halkias
Damn, dude.
I'm a fucking renaissance man over here.
joe rogan
I was really good, man.
There's some stuff online that you could find.
Like, there's one thing that I did with three little pigs.
Like, with the big bad wolf.
Hell yeah.
There's a few of those that I did.
It was like...
I drew stuff that was like, there was a lot of black and white comic books that were like these creepy and eerie, like these different, like they were very gory.
That's something I drew from Marvin Hagler.
I drew that when I was 15. That's sick.
Yeah.
That's another one I did.
That one in the upper right-hand corner.
I drew a lot of those.
stavros halkias
A lot of werewolves.
So you were into some Asian...
Oh, that's...
Because that to me looks like one of those Japanese devils, but that's a werewolf.
joe rogan
Yeah, werewolves.
I was just really into werewolves.
stavros halkias
Oh, some horror shit?
joe rogan
Yeah.
Is that one that I drew, the little red...
The Big Bad Wolf?
Is that one in there?
The Three Little Pigs?
It's in there somewhere.
stavros halkias
Now, did you ever...
This is something we used to get...
The kid who could draw, did you ever...
Were you ever hired to draw pornography for any place?
Did you ever draw tits and jack off to it?
That's a beautiful, like, self-fulfilling cycle.
joe rogan
You know what I did do, though?
I would draw tattoos on my friends.
stavros halkias
Oh, sick.
joe rogan
So, like, I would use, like, tactical pens.
And I would, like...
You could have, like...
It's just got, like, a...
You can get good control of different thicknesses of tips.
And so I would draw cool tattoos on my friends that were thinking about getting tattoos.
I'd be like, let me draw something on you.
stavros halkias
Yeah, feel it out.
joe rogan
Yeah, this is where you wash it off.
One of my friends got his ass kicked because he came home and the mother thought it was like a real tattoo.
unidentified
You fucking son of a bitch!
He's like, Joe Rogan drew it on me, it's not real!
stavros halkias
You know that family has great communication when he doesn't even get a chance to explain it's fake?
joe rogan
Yeah, he's getting swung on.
He came in with a t-shirt on.
She's like, you little son of a bitch!
Because back then, kids would get tattoos, like in high school.
stavros halkias
Oh yeah, just come home.
joe rogan
Yeah, with some shitty tattoo.
My friend Jimmy got this terrible tiger head tattoo on his shoulder.
And one day his mother saw something peeking out under his sleeve and she fucking started screaming at him.
What the fuck did you do?
And it had his name on it like Jimmy.
And bro, the tiger looked like it was made by a drunk five-year-old.
stavros halkias
It was so bad.
I had a friend who just got like fucking a leaf on her foot.
And it's like, this is just here.
I was 16 and dumb.
And now I have a leaf that looks like shit on my foot.
joe rogan
They can laser that off, though.
stavros halkias
Yeah, maybe.
joe rogan
They're really good at it now.
stavros halkias
It hurts, though.
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
Apparently.
I've never had it done, but the laser hurts.
stavros halkias
Interesting.
joe rogan
They get in there...
unidentified
It just cooks the skin and breaks up all of the ink.
stavros halkias
Broils your shit.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Not good.
stavros halkias
I'm a clean canvas.
joe rogan
You thinking about getting something?
stavros halkias
I think once you're 34...
joe rogan
Maybe a large panda bear on your back.
stavros halkias
That's not bad.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah.
stavros halkias
My favorite...
joe rogan
With a heart on.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
A big black and white heart dick.
joe rogan
I think I want an eagle with a boner just on my back.
stavros halkias
What does an eagle's penis look like?
Would it be a human penis?
joe rogan
Like death from the sky?
I would do a human dick.
stavros halkias
Human penis on an eagle?
joe rogan
I bet someone's already drawn it.
I bet we're talking find Google eagle with human dick.
stavros halkias
Oh, there's a guy on Long Island who signed up after 9-11 who's definitely got that tattoo.
joe rogan
Jamie just laughed at me.
Oh my god.
jamie vernon
What you just asked for, but not exactly.
stavros halkias
No, I want the eagle to have a penis.
joe rogan
That's an actual flying dick.
That's an actual flying dick.
stavros halkias
Okay, Joe.
joe rogan
Is there an eagle with a dick?
There's gotta be.
I guarantee you it's out there.
jamie vernon
Dude, maybe.
joe rogan
There's like a thousand tattoos of me out there.
There's gotta be an eagle with a dick.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
How about you, but the eagle and the dick head is your head?
unidentified
Mmm, right.
It's like a giant.
joe rogan
Right, big ol' veiny shaft.
unidentified
Big ol' veiny.
joe rogan
And my head like this.
unidentified
You're so pissed.
joe rogan
Like I'm deadlifting.
unidentified
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Your face on a PR, but it's just coming off an eagle's human dick.
joe rogan
Bro, someone's gonna get that.
stavros halkias
Please do.
joe rogan
Guaranteed.
stavros halkias
I'll give you $1,000 if you get that tattoo.
joe rogan
Yes, I'll throw in $1,000 as well.
Yeah, just an eagle with a total oversized dick.
stavros halkias
And you know what?
Actually, I have to be one of the nuts if you get it.
My face has to be one of the balls.
joe rogan
With a big smile.
And the glasses on.
stavros halkias
That's awesome.
joe rogan
And a dick that looks like a bodybuilder's forearm.
stavros halkias
You have veins, brother.
Yeah, you need at least three veins.
Just a missile.
One main one, two off to the soul.
Two tributaries.
joe rogan
A lot going on.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
A lot of blood flow.
stavros halkias
I love it.
joe rogan
How many dudes have tattooed their dick?
I bet quite a few.
I've seen a bunch.
Online.
stavros halkias
Yeah, have you tasted a many?
joe rogan
They're different.
stavros halkias
It's not Gabe, it's ink.
joe rogan
It tastes like copper, like a penny, like you're sucking on a penny.
stavros halkias
I think that's just what a dick tastes like.
The guy's like, Joe, it'll be cool.
It tastes different.
unidentified
Are you sure?
joe rogan
Come on.
stavros halkias
Yes, dude, and this will help you get your yellow belt.
That's you for day one.
joe rogan
I bet there's a lot of that going on, too.
stavros halkias
Have you ever seen that video?
joe rogan
There was a guy who, a karate instructor molested his kid, and they were working, the cops had arrested the guy, and they were taking him, I think it was through an airport.
They were moving through an airport, and this guy's waiting by the phone, and as the guy walks by, bang!
Blows him in the head and puts his hands up.
stavros halkias
Fucking honestly awesome.
joe rogan
Everybody loves that.
Everybody loves that video.
stavros halkias
How are you mad at that?
joe rogan
How are you mad at that?
stavros halkias
Because, by the way, okay.
You know, I think if somebody molests your kid, you should be able to kill him, right?
I think that's pretty fair.
But that's not easy, dude.
He's got a small window.
He was like a mob assassin, dude.
joe rogan
He knows he's going to jail.
And he's like, okay, I'm going to go to jail.
So what?
I'm not going to be able to live with this.
I'm going to go to jail.
Did you ever see that one?
There's one video of a woman.
Some man had raped and murdered her seven-year-old.
stavros halkias
Jesus Christ.
joe rogan
And she shot him.
Here's the video.
The guy's walking by.
This guy's got the bag.
Bang!
stavros halkias
Damn, dude.
joe rogan
That's a wrap, son.
By the way, those guys have terrible technique when they went to disarm him.
stavros halkias
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
Yeah, just the way the guy moved in.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
He could've got shot.
stavros halkias
Yeah, if that guy wanted to, he could've dropped both of those guys.
joe rogan
100%.
unidentified
Oh, dude.
stavros halkias
Dude, look at the fucking...
joe rogan
Look at his face.
Sunglasses, baseball hat.
Byow!
stavros halkias
Was that guy like in a cop or in the army or something?
If he's just a guy, that's pretty impressive.
joe rogan
I don't know.
I don't know.
stavros halkias
It's too much reading.
joe rogan
It's a horrible story.
1984. But there's another video of a woman in court and the guy who murdered and raped her daughter was right there.
And she just pulls out a gun and just empties it into him in court.
stavros halkias
Bang, bang, bang!
joe rogan
With, like, a dead look on her face.
stavros halkias
Damn, dude.
joe rogan
You know?
Just fuck you.
stavros halkias
Yeah, fuck that guy.
joe rogan
Fuck that guy.
stavros halkias
I mean, I think that guy got off, didn't he?
I hope he did.
He only had to, like, serve a little bit or something.
joe rogan
He had to mop the jail.
stavros halkias
Yeah, just clean up after the blood in the airport.
We'll give you a Wetzel's Pretzels afterwards, too.
joe rogan
Take it to Cinnabon.
jamie vernon
But do a real good job.
That can't be really...
joe rogan
No, I think that's it, dude.
That's it.
stavros halkias
Dude.
joe rogan
No, it is.
Like, look at the guy behind.
He's holding his ears.
stavros halkias
Holy fuck, dude.
joe rogan
That's real.
No, that's real, dude.
stavros halkias
Nice with it, honestly.
She looks...
That's...
Yeah, how are you mad, man?
jamie vernon
I saw something on Twitter similar to this.
There was like an old woman in Mexico who something like that happened and she tracked down the gangsters.
The government wouldn't help and she tracked them all down one by one.
Are you fucking kidding me?
Until they were dead or in jail.
stavros halkias
I need that movie, brother.
That's fucking action movie beautiful.
Like Revenge Grandma.
We haven't had a Revenge Grandma.
joe rogan
There's something about a lady who avenges her kid's murder that's intense.
stavros halkias
Have you seen Lady Snowblood?
joe rogan
No, what's that?
stavros halkias
That's a Japanese, like, you're gonna love that movie.
joe rogan
You're into a lot of Japanese shit.
stavros halkias
This has come out just now.
unidentified
I don't know what this is about.
joe rogan
Recent in life?
stavros halkias
I don't know.
I had one time where I kind of went to recharge.
It was, my friend gave me a Murakami book where this all started.
When I was just like, it was right after, it was like during the pandemic I'd gained a ton of fucking weight and I felt like shit.
Career stalled, everything.
And I just went to like Baltimore for like I rented a place.
I worked out with my brother and I was like off my phone.
I was just like recharging and he gave me this Murakami book and I was like, okay, this Japanese shit's cool.
I started listening to like Japanese music.
I did get into a weird, so I think there's like a Pavlov's dog thing with me where it's like any Japanese shit, it almost reminds me of that healing thing.
Point in my life.
unidentified
Oh, I see.
stavros halkias
And I got into, like...
I'm also just so into, like, revenge action.
I really want to write an action movie when I take...
After the special comes out, which is, you know...
It's coming out.
And, you know, I'm trying to promote it.
I'm doing all this shit.
But my tour is over.
I just ended at the Beacon, which is fucking sick.
And once all the, like, promo stuff's done, I just want to fucking chill out.
I want to fucking...
Watch a bunch of fucking movies.
I probably will read some Japanese shit because in my head that is like the resetting.
But anyway, Lady Snowblood, revenge film, a woman whose mom has this woman in jail and she tracks down the people who raped her mom and fucking put her in jail.
It's awesome.
Lady Snowblood's good shit, dude.
joe rogan
Dude, a good revenge movie.
There it is right there.
Lady Snow...
Oh, Jesus Christ.
stavros halkias
Dude, she fucks people up, dude.
unidentified
Jesus, that's...
stavros halkias
Nah, you'd love this movie for sure.
It's fucking awesome.
joe rogan
It looks badass.
stavros halkias
It's on Criterion, and I think it's also on...
joe rogan
What year is this?
73?
stavros halkias
It's good.
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Look at the dude behind her.
She fucked up.
stavros halkias
She fucked my man up.
joe rogan
Oh my god, this is gory.
stavros halkias
It's fucking awesome.
joe rogan
There's something about a good revenge movie, man.
stavros halkias
It's the best.
I mean, I just watched the first half of Hard Boiled.
I'll pop that little bad boy.
What's Hard Boiled?
Oh, John Woo movie?
joe rogan
Oh, that's right.
unidentified
Dude.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Another banger, absolutely.
But yeah, I'm trying to get an encyclopedic.
I'm going to watch so many Revenge and Assassin movies.
And you want to write one.
But I want to write a comedy, you know what I mean?
I want to do where I'm the guy, you know what I mean?
unidentified
Oh, okay.
stavros halkias
But I want to have like a...
Yeah, this is hard-boiled.
So sick, dude.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's something about a good Revenge movie, man.
Uh-oh.
stavros halkias
Well, it's so simple.
Oh, have you seen The Killer that just came out?
joe rogan
Yes.
stavros halkias
Oh, I loved it.
joe rogan
The Killer's great.
stavros halkias
The Killer's great.
joe rogan
That's great.
I saw, like, a bad review of it, and then I was, like, a little apprehensive watching it.
I'm like, what are you talking about?
This movie's amazing.
stavros halkias
Amazing.
Fincher, so good.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
And it's, like, it shows you, like...
It's also interesting to think about this fucking guy, because, like, all you have is his internal monologue.
unidentified
Mm-hmm.
stavros halkias
So it's, like...
Yeah, he fucks some shit up, but that's what's interesting.
We don't know.
Is this guy as good as he thinks he is?
And then how methodical he is.
And that fight scene, that middle fight scene in fucking Florida.
Incredible.
And the Tilda Swinton thing, where it's the opposite, where it's like, that's all psychological.
Whereas the other one is brute force, and it's just like...
joe rogan
There's also no moments in that movie where you're like, get the fuck out of here.
stavros halkias
Totally.
joe rogan
You know, in a lot of action movies, there's a get the fuck out of here moment.
stavros halkias
Yes, yes.
Yeah, he fucks up constantly.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
He fucks up constantly.
But he's also...
Yeah, there's like three really funny fuck-ups he does.
And it's just...
You're with his internal monologue.
And he fucking looks great.
And all of it is like believable and feels as grounded as a fucking...
Assassin movie can be.
joe rogan
And isn't it weird that you're rooting for him?
stavros halkias
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Isn't that weird?
He's an assassin.
stavros halkias
He's just as bad as them.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
But it is the revenge factor of...
If they hadn't hurt his...
If they hadn't hurt his girl...
joe rogan
That's true.
stavros halkias
That's the one thing.
joe rogan
That's true.
stavros halkias
But then it also becomes this larger thing of like...
As he's taking it to the top, you're rooting for, not to give the movie away, but it's like, you're rooting for a final resolution, and then it's like, the movie plays with that, you know, it's just like, but yeah, you do, the revenge is the thing of how it gets us to root for these people that, you know, if you were to think about it, they're also fucking monsters.
joe rogan
Well, that's Tony Soprano.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, Tony Soprano was the anti-hero.
Like, you rooted for Tony Soprano, he's a murderer.
stavros halkias
Well, that's different, though, because that's even more sinister, because, like, the revenge movies are so simple.
joe rogan
Right.
stavros halkias
It's like, this guy who's cool, even though he's bad, they hurt somebody good, and he's gonna, like, get them back.
Tony Soprano's even worse, where it's like, no, this guy's a piece of shit, but he's so charming and cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, you like him.
stavros halkias
And he fucking eats fucking deli meats just like me.
unidentified
Yeah.
stavros halkias
You know what I mean?
It's like, yeah, he's getting pussy.
He's just like a fucking awesome guy.
And you see the charm of these guys.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Which, I don't know if that's real.
I don't know if the actual real mobsters are that charming.
I'm sure some at the top were.
joe rogan
Some of them were charming.
stavros halkias
And Gandolfini's just such a great actor.
He is so good.
But that's what's so awesome about The Sopranos.
And that's why I think they put a couple of those episodes where they're like, No, these guys are Satan.
We're like, you know, Ralphie kills the fucking, the girl he gets pregnant.
And that's a big moment where you're like, oh, I shouldn't be rooting for these guys.
joe rogan
Right, right, right.
Well, they made it very complicated.
How about when Tony killed Christopher Moltisanti?
Like, oh, Jesus Christ.
stavros halkias
But that's exactly it.
At the end, you're like, this guy is fucking Satan.
This guy is a completely irredeemable piece of shit.
And the scene where fucking Carmella goes to the therapist, and he's just like, because she's always been in denial, or she's always been able to pretend, and he's just like, no.
This is blood.
I won't take your blood money.
Maybe up until this point in your life, no one has explicitly told you you're being an accomplice for this fucking bullshit.
And staying with him is not equal to, but you're involved in this evil.
And the only way for him to be able to get out of this is to turn himself in and pray for fucking redemption.
And she's just like, oh...
Well, I guess I'm going to fucking keep being part of this.
I don't want to do this.
I don't want to lose all my money.
I don't want to lose my life.
She was just trying to go to therapy to feel better.
And the guy's like, I'm not Dr. Melfi.
I'm not fucking going to enable this bullshit because I'm also wrapped up in it.
The guy was just like, I know who you are.
I know what you're trying to do.
There's no way to feel good that's not fake here.
joe rogan
That's also the thing.
If you lived in those neighborhoods that were run by the mob, you were under their thumb.
stavros halkias
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
It was scary.
For sure.
You had to pay protection money.
If you didn't pay protection money, they'd come and fuck you up.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, that's just how it went.
stavros halkias
I know.
It's funny.
And yeah, I mean, it's like the...
That is definitely a culture that pervades it.
joe rogan
Have you ever read any of the books about the 1970s mob?
You ever read Murder Machine?
stavros halkias
I haven't read Murder Machine.
I read the...
joe rogan
Murder Machine is terrifying.
It's about Roy DeMeo, who's a serial killer mobster.
Serial killer.
stavros halkias
Damn.
joe rogan
Find reasons to kill people.
Joey Diaz gave it to me.
You gotta read this book, cocksucker.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
These motherfuckers were wild.
He gave me this book and I remember I read it on the road.
I was like, holy shit, it's one of those books you have to put down a few hours before you go on stage.
I gotta reset my brain and be funny again.
This is horrific.
stavros halkias
I will check it out.
The Five Families, it's almost like an encyclopedic thing of the entire...
I forget who wrote it, but I'll fucking find it and show you.
That book is almost like a history textbook about the mob.
It's really fucking good.
But it's not as like what you're talking about where it's getting into the psychology.
It's purely like, this is who was the ball.
You know, going from Lucky...
joe rogan
I used to train a guy who was a hitman for Whitey Bulger.
stavros halkias
Whoa, what the fuck?
joe rogan
Yeah, I taught him.
stavros halkias
That's crazy.
What did you teach him?
Just fucking people up?
joe rogan
He was a dude that...
There was a bunch of people that I knew that were in the Irish mob.
And one of them was the brother of a comedian who wound up going to jail.
stavros halkias
Okay.
joe rogan
Comedian friend of mine.
stavros halkias
Bill Cosby.
joe rogan
No.
Irish guys.
All Irish guys.
stavros halkias
Oh, Bill O. Cosby?
joe rogan
And one of them was a guy who used to come to the gym who, 99% sure...
Went to jail for murder.
I know he went to jail, but I'm pretty sure it was for murder.
stavros halkias
Okay.
joe rogan
He was a hit man, and he was just asking, he would ask me, like, if I wanted to hit someone and to kill him, where would I hit him?
stavros halkias
He would just say that?
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, I said, I said, probably the neck.
And he said, I think so, too.
stavros halkias
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah, just strike them in the neck.
But I go, it's gonna take more than one shot.
He goes, oh, yeah.
Like, we're just looking at each other.
Okay.
So, this is how you gotta get your weight in it to generate more power.
The problem is, you're hitting it and then you're bouncing off it.
You don't want to bounce off, you want to drive through.
So me, I'm teaching this guy.
stavros halkias
You teach this guy how to kill.
joe rogan
Teach this guy how to smash.
stavros halkias
Goddamn, dude.
joe rogan
That was crazy.
stavros halkias
How old were you?
joe rogan
I guess 19?
Somewhere around there?
unidentified
Wow.
joe rogan
Yeah.
That was before I ever did comedy.
And that was when I was at my most insane with martial arts.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Whereas I had just gotten out of high school.
I had all the time in the world now.
unidentified
Right.
stavros halkias
And when you're 19, that kind of shit is cool.
joe rogan
Yeah, I lived at home until I was 20. So I still didn't have bills, really.
stavros halkias
Right.
joe rogan
And I was traveling all over the country fighting.
That's all I was doing.
stavros halkias
Whoa, sick.
joe rogan
And I taught.
So I was teaching at Boston University.
I had an accredited course.
The Jehun Kim Taekwondo Institute was a very prestigious place that I went to in Boston.
And they had developed a bunch of national champions.
Michael O'Malley and John Lee and guys who represented the United States in major world competitions.
So it was like an elite gym.
I just got lucky that I found this place.
stavros halkias
Total luck.
It was where you were from.
joe rogan
That's where I started.
No, it wasn't even anywhere near my house.
stavros halkias
Oh, really?
joe rogan
I was coming home from a baseball game with a buddy of mine.
And as we were coming home, we were waiting to get on the tee.
The tee is like, you know, public transit.
Yeah, so I was 15, maybe 14. And so we were just walking down the street, and there were so many people that were going to get on the tee, the line was going to be crazy.
And so we said, let's go check this karate place out.
And I walked up the stairs, and as I was walking up the stairs, I caught, at the perfect moment, one of the best guys in the world training.
stavros halkias
Damn.
joe rogan
So it was this guy, John Lee.
And John Lee was the national 175-pound champion, and he was preparing to fight in the World Cup.
So as I'm going up the stairs, I'm hearing this sound.
And this sound is whoomp!
unidentified
Ka-ching!
stavros halkias
Damn, dude.
Whoomp!
unidentified
Ka-ching!
joe rogan
And that whomp is him kicking the bag and the ka-ching is the chains rattling as his bag goes flying through the air.
So he's got a hundred pound heavy bag and he's sending this thing into the air.
And I remember watching going, this is insane.
stavros halkias
Yeah, you had no idea you were watching the best in the world.
joe rogan
I had no idea.
Not just the best in the world, but one of the best in the world in his prime, fully prepared for the world championships.
So he's just full training, at his most focused.
And I'm looking at this dude, and I said, I want to know how to do that!
I didn't know a person could do that!
He was kicking so hard!
I've never seen anybody kick anything hard before.
So for me, and he was known for, he had the best spinning back kick in the world.
And everybody who fought him, there was always a moment you had to wonder if he's gonna spin.
If you got too close and he spun, it was so fast.
unidentified
And when it hit you, your liver's destroyed.
joe rogan
He would just slam his right heel into the right side of your body and you would just go down like you got hit by a car.
It was horrible.
He did it to so many people.
And he taught me.
He taught me how to do it.
It became my number one technique, learning from this guy.
stavros halkias
Holy shit.
joe rogan
Total dumb luck.
stavros halkias
Insane.
joe rogan
So that was the place that I was teaching out of, and that was the place where I was teaching this fucking hitman.
unidentified
Right.
stavros halkias
Damn.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Like, I know he was a hitman.
stavros halkias
What did the guy look like?
joe rogan
100%.
That's the place.
That's the place.
I walked up those stairs thousands of times.
stavros halkias
Damn, dude.
joe rogan
I used to teach there.
stavros halkias
That's fucking sick.
joe rogan
I taught there, and then they got me the job at BU. So I was 19 years old, teaching kids my age Taekwondo, and I just told them, I go, I'll give you an A if you just try.
I said, this is pass-fail A, so it counts towards your GPA. I go, all you have to do is show up, and if you can't make it, just tell me.
I go, but if you just show up, I go, you get an A. That's awesome.
Just try.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
And I go, we're going to have fun.
I'll show you some stuff.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's a good guy to get.
You love this shit so much.
You're also a kid.
joe rogan
It was such a weird job, though, because I was a kid going into a college to teach them this thing.
And I just...
So I always had to put on a display before I taught.
stavros halkias
To prove that you know what the fuck you're talking about?
joe rogan
We had to get the court cleared and these guys are playing basketball and they didn't want to give up the court a lot of times.
Basketball players are a lot taller than me too.
So I would have some dude hold the pad.
I'd hold this like body shield and I would just start wailing on that thing.
stavros halkias
That's fucking awesome.
joe rogan
And then next thing on, everybody's going, what is this?
stavros halkias
Like, what are you doing here?
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
stavros halkias
I'm about to teach class.
Yeah.
So that must have been cool though because you graduate, you're out of high school and you're not, did you spend time on the campus at all or it was just to teach?
joe rogan
Just to teach.
I went to school.
I was going to UMass Boston.
Oh, you were going.
It was a waste of time.
I was literally only doing it so people didn't think I was a loser.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like I could say, oh, I'm going to UMass.
stavros halkias
I'm going to college.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm going to college.
stavros halkias
I didn't drop out to do fucking back kicks.
Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, there was no money in this thing that I was obsessed with.
stavros halkias
Of course.
joe rogan
The only money was there's a little bit of money like you can get by teaching.
stavros halkias
Teaching.
unidentified
Fucking single mothers while you teach their kids.
stavros halkias
None of that.
joe rogan
I was too young.
stavros halkias
Ah, come on.
joe rogan
No, I was dating girls my age.
I didn't get a MILF until I was 21. Ooh, what was the setup?
Well, she was 25. She was one of my students.
unidentified
Hell yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, she was older than me.
She was like the first girl that I ever dated that used to tell me what to do, and I used to think it was fun.
stavros halkias
Oh yeah, that's nice.
When you get somebody who knows what the fuck's going on?
joe rogan
Sort of.
She was off by a lot.
stavros halkias
Okay.
joe rogan
Also very judgmental, but hot.
She was fun.
stavros halkias
I'll take that.
joe rogan
She was really, really smart.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
So I would listen to her.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But I got in a car accident.
Some old dude ran a light and fucking t-boned my car and fucked my car up.
And when I was leaving the car, I was taking my cassettes out.
And she saw Whitesnake and made me leave it in the car.
She was leaving the car.
I'm like, what?
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
She's like, here I go again on my own.
stavros halkias
Come on, this is a banger.
joe rogan
But 21-year-old me, like this girl that I was fucking, and she was so hot.
stavros halkias
Teaching you life lessons.
joe rogan
Well, I think...
stavros halkias
Or just how to eat pussy.
I don't know which one.
joe rogan
Both.
But it was also just that she was older and smarter than me and accomplished.
She had a career.
stavros halkias
Oh, wow.
And she was just learning karate?
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
She was learning Taekwondo and then you guys struck it up?
Was it self-defense or what was she going for?
joe rogan
No, she was taking a class.
stavros halkias
Oh, at college?
joe rogan
No, no, no, no.
This was at the gym.
This was at the Taekwondo school.
stavros halkias
Huh.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
I don't think of single 25-year-old moms taking Taekwondo.
joe rogan
She wasn't a mom.
unidentified
You said MILF. Yeah, but I don't really mean that.
stavros halkias
You mean spiritual milf.
joe rogan
Yeah, that's why.
I'm sorry.
No, no, no, no.
stavros halkias
She was not.
joe rogan
That word gets used too much.
But she wasn't really.
She was 25. I was 21. It was just the first time I dated a woman.
All the other girls I dated were dumb chicks that were my age.
We're all dumb.
She had a career and she graduated from college.
She was smart.
stavros halkias
That's awesome.
Yeah, when I first moved to New York, I was 24 and I fucked a girl that was like 37. Oh shit.
And that was awesome.
joe rogan
That's a leap, son.
stavros halkias
That was, yeah, yeah.
I only got to fuck her once, which is, you know you didn't do a great job.
But I did eat her pussy for a while.
I got, that was my first encounter with a squirter.
We fucked her.
joe rogan
Congratulations.
stavros halkias
Thanks, man.
joe rogan
That's amazing.
stavros halkias
Thanks, man.
joe rogan
Are you sure it's real?
stavros halkias
I mean...
joe rogan
Are you sure she wasn't peeing all over you?
stavros halkias
It was clear.
joe rogan
I've thought about this a lot.
unidentified
That's what I'm saying.
joe rogan
How often do you pee and it's not clear?
stavros halkias
And it's not clear?
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Quite a bit.
I'm not very hydrated.
joe rogan
Okay, that's not good.
You've got to think.
stavros halkias
It's not Amber.
joe rogan
You've got to rationalize.
If someone has so much piss in them that they piss while you're fucking them, they're probably hydrated.
stavros halkias
That's true.
She didn't seem hydrated.
She was a hefty gal.
joe rogan
She's probably very hydrated.
stavros halkias
You think so?
joe rogan
I don't know.
stavros halkias
I don't know.
She didn't seem hydrated.
joe rogan
I don't know what it is.
stavros halkias
She drank a lot.
joe rogan
They do say it's real, but then they also say it's just pee.
stavros halkias
I feel like it's real.
I've thought about this a lot.
joe rogan
It's sort of like Jesus.
stavros halkias
If you believe in it, Right, right, right.
joe rogan
It can work for you.
stavros halkias
You make your own thing.
Faith is beautiful, Joe.
And I believe it's real.
I believe it's another thing.
It doesn't taste like piss.
joe rogan
How do you know what piss tastes like?
stavros halkias
Well, you could guess.
joe rogan
Clear piss?
stavros halkias
I guess I haven't tasted it.
joe rogan
Like really?
stavros halkias
I guess it doesn't smell like piss.
joe rogan
Like from an elite ultra runner?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Just run it with a water bladder on.
Sucking in all that water.
stavros halkias
Alright, not bad.
It feels cool either way.
As long as you're right, it's pure faith.
And I choose to believe it's not piss.
joe rogan
Jamie, what is it?
Has it definitively been addressed by science?
Wait a minute, you're not a doctor.
stavros halkias
Have you encountered squirters though, Jamie?
jamie vernon
Yeah, I will, yes.
joe rogan
But Jamie, I would like to Google.
I would like you to Google what is squirting and is it really just pee?
stavros halkias
I think you're gonna find a divided scholarship on the matter.
joe rogan
I think there's a lot of people that have a vested interest in believing they were pissed on.
stavros halkias
Big piss.
unidentified
Big squirt.
Big piss money is throwing off the data.
joe rogan
Conclusions.
The present data based on ultrasonographic bladder monitoring and biochemical analysis indicates that squirting is essentially the involuntary emission of urine during sexual activity.
Although a marginal contribution of prostatic secretions to the emitted flu and often it exists.
So that's like...
Pussy juice.
stavros halkias
How can they just say pussy juice?
jamie vernon
This says, doctor's theorize squirting is a form of stress incontinence.
joe rogan
Isn't it kind of interesting, though, that you couldn't say pussy juice?
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
If you're publishing a scientific paper, we must have another word for this term that's acceptable for everyone to discuss the exact same goddamn thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
stavros halkias
Pussy juice.
joe rogan
It's pussy juice.
stavros halkias
So you're saying we should, in the medical journals, it should say pussy juice?
joe rogan
Well, I just want to understand.
jamie vernon
How is their pleasure of a geyser?
joe rogan
If it's the same thing, because that's some ladies.
But if it's the same thing, why is pussy juice offensive, and why is that other long-ass word inoffensive, when they're literally just sounds you make so I know what you're talking about?
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's all it is.
stavros halkias
No, I agree with you.
I mean, now we're talking about what is language.
joe rogan
Right.
stavros halkias
You know what I mean?
It's like a different word.
joe rogan
But specifically with certain things.
stavros halkias
Yes.
joe rogan
Like pussy juice.
stavros halkias
Pussy juice.
I think you'd have to go at least, I think maybe vaginal juice.
joe rogan
Right, if you were talking to a doctor and the doctor was saying, you got a problem with your pussy juice.
You're like, this doctor's trying to fuck me.
unidentified
You gotta get out of there.
joe rogan
I gotta get out of here.
stavros halkias
Was he even wearing gloves?
joe rogan
Why did he smell like cologne?
stavros halkias
He's like, oh yeah, your pH is fucked up.
Time for a little test?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
He's talking about your pussy.
That's not good.
stavros halkias
Nope.
Yeah, your cunt's all fucked up.
unidentified
You absolutely need someone to use words.
stavros halkias
You got what I like to call rusty cunt.
joe rogan
Squirting is related to glands in the urethral sponge, which is embedded in the vaginal walls along the sides of the urethra.
These glands, called skein's glands, are part of the urination process.
Researchers have long debated whether squirting liquid contains pee or if it's a unique substance.
In studies where researchers performed a chemical analysis of squirting fluid, they found chemicals that are also in urine.
But here's the thing.
I want to know, but hold on a second.
Chemical analysis of squirting liquid.
Researchers performed a chemical analysis of squirting liquid.
And how doth one acquire such squirting liquid?
What scientific studies are you finger-banging, ladies, until they squirt all over the place?
jamie vernon
They asked a man to pleasure five women to find out.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
They asked a man to pleasure five women.
They paid a guy for science.
stavros halkias
That's got to feel awesome to be that guy.
joe rogan
What did he do?
Oh, it was in Japan.
stavros halkias
It's all coming full circle, baby.
joe rogan
All roads lead to Japan.
That makes sense.
stavros halkias
The land of the rising sun.
joe rogan
Now I'm not shocked.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Of course they did.
stavros halkias
Some guy just bowing.
joe rogan
This guy probably came in with a briefcase.
Two of the women were in their 30s, two in their 40s, and one was in her 50s.
And all of them said they had previously squirted in past sexual encounters.
Let's fucking go.
unidentified
Let's do it.
joe rogan
Unlike vaginal lubrication, where a person's vagina secretes a white and milky fluid when they're aroused, squirting involves a clear and odorless fluid.
A.K.A. Squirt.
Pussy juice.
Squirting can happen before, during, or after an orgasm and has geyser-like quality.
Sex educator Marla Renee Stewart previously told Cosmopolitan, imagine if you're a lady and you're a squirting expert.
stavros halkias
Right.
joe rogan
That's a freak.
stavros halkias
Hell yeah.
You know she knows how to fucking do tricks with her pussy.
jamie vernon
Here's how it happens.
joe rogan
Okay.
Doctors examined the urine from each woman's bladder using a urethral catheter.
They injected them with 50 milliliters of blue dye saline solution.
In another room, women received manual penetration from a male subject the doctor recruited.
stavros halkias
They're like, we need the finest finger popper in the land.
joe rogan
The finest.
stavros halkias
And the shogunate.
unidentified
Kaizen.
joe rogan
I have been fingering in the mountains for decades.
stavros halkias
So yeah, some guy in the mountains just doing this?
joe rogan
They instructed the man to use his fingers and penis.
stavros halkias
And penis!
joe rogan
In a way to facilitate squirting.
stavros halkias
Let me just say, these gals sound cool.
joe rogan
This guy banged them.
stavros halkias
That's awesome.
joe rogan
Fingers and penis.
This is crazy.
He banged them for the International Journal of Urology.
That is so insane.
stavros halkias
Scientific finger popping.
joe rogan
So what does it find?
Each of the five women squirted the doctor saw blue liquid come out of their genital areas in videos that captured the experiment.
Their findings suggest the liquid women produce when they squirt comes, at least in part, from the bladder.
stavros halkias
Okay.
joe rogan
Urologists wrote in their August 24 paper published in the International Journal of Urology.
This is so wild.
stavros halkias
Okay.
joe rogan
They paid a guy to fuck the piss out of these girls.
Like literally.
stavros halkias
What a job.
joe rogan
He fucked the piss out of them.
stavros halkias
Mom, dad.
joe rogan
He literally fucked the piss out of them.
stavros halkias
That's awesome.
And he was like, you thought I'd never amount to anything?
That is wild.
Okay, here's...
Okay, ready?
How about this?
Okay, it has piss in it, right?
But they have something else in there too, right?
So whatever pussy juice they couldn't say.
joe rogan
Yeah, whatever's on the walls of the vagina as it comes squirting out like a geyser.
So how about this?
It's probably like steroids they find in supplements, like accidental steroids.
stavros halkias
Yeah, you can find it.
Absolutely.
So here's what I posit.
Even if it starts as piss, water, you add Kool-Aid to it, Kool-Aid powder.
Now it's Kool-Aid.
So the piss, you add special little concentrated pussy juice in there.
joe rogan
Okay.
stavros halkias
Now it's squirt.
joe rogan
All right, piss.
I'm not buying it.
stavros halkias
Maybe a couple of those.
joe rogan
I'm not scared of piss.
But let's just be honest about what it is.
That wouldn't bother me if someone peed on me.
stavros halkias
Agree to disagree.
joe rogan
It's not that big a deal.
stavros halkias
I wouldn't want...
I guess if it was very clear pit, I guess it was like the squirt I found.
joe rogan
Look, if you're really into a girl and you're having sex and she accidentally pees on you, are you going to stop?
stavros halkias
You know what?
I actually...
No.
Well, have I busted yet?
joe rogan
No.
stavros halkias
No.
Let it go.
unidentified
Let it go.
joe rogan
This is fucking body fluid.
stavros halkias
I will say, actually...
Maybe I have encountered some tough squirt.
joe rogan
That should be the name of your next special.
unidentified
Oh my god, dude.
stavros halkias
Now that we're thinking about it, and she was not hydrated, and it was like, you know when you crack open crabs and it has that little yellow shit in there?
That was left on the fucking sheets?
And it was so frank, I couldn't get hard afterwards.
I hate her pussy.
And then I got like...
Oh, my God.
Oh, man.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
stavros halkias
And she even was like, damn, I need to drink more water.
joe rogan
Did she blast on you?
stavros halkias
Yeah, dude.
joe rogan
In the mouth?
Everywhere?
stavros halkias
Very much so.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
I'm just picturing this.
The amount of urine depends on when the person peed last and how hydrated they are.
New York University sex researcher Zana Wranglova told MindBodyGreen.
stavros halkias
That's a hot name, too.
joe rogan
I bet she's hot, too.
stavros halkias
She sounds like the evil lady we were talking about earlier.
joe rogan
Perfect features.
Talking about piss.
stavros halkias
Angular big-ass tits.
joe rogan
How wild is that Japanese study, though?
But that's the kind of science you can get away with if you're living in a country that's more open-minded.
stavros halkias
Yeah, but then again, they fucking blur out the genitals.
That's the fucking trade-off.
unidentified
I know.
joe rogan
That's what's wild, but I'll take both.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
The other thing is, like, the weird thing is, like, that this guy, how did he get that job?
Did he have to audition?
Like, how did he know he wasn't going to fall apart?
jamie vernon
It says he was recruited.
joe rogan
Right, but how did they know he was going to get hard?
stavros halkias
Maybe one of the doctors was a freak.
joe rogan
Yeah, they found this dude.
jamie vernon
You gotta find the best.
stavros halkias
That sounds also like the plot.
This study probably was recorded and put out with blurred genitals.
This sounds like the plot of a Japanese pornography.
joe rogan
This story could be a comedy movie if we had a time machine.
unidentified
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Yeah, all the squirt.
joe rogan
No, if we could bring it back to like 1994 when you could make a movie like this and not go to jail.
stavros halkias
Yes, yes, yes.
joe rogan
And not get canceled.
If you tried to make this movie today, the outrage would be off the charts.
stavros halkias
The Squirt Doctor?
You think you couldn't make The Squirt Doctor?
joe rogan
No chance.
This guy, you're gonna have him finger-banging these women and fuck the shit out of them, all five of them, and they're hiring this guy to come in and sling dick.
stavros halkias
It would probably have to be a lesbian thing.
joe rogan
And you find out that these women are just pissing all over him.
stavros halkias
I don't know.
joe rogan
And all their dreams are shattered because they thought they were squirters.
They were the rare hot squirter.
But meanwhile, they're just peeing on guys.
And now these guys are leaking that to the world.
It gets on the internet and everybody knows that you're just peeing on folks.
You're just peeing on folks!
stavros halkias
What if the guy was hot and it's for women?
I'm sure he's hot.
joe rogan
I'm sure he's probably hot.
They wouldn't force the women to...
I mean, if they forced the women to have sex with some gross guy...
jamie vernon
I made a nice discovery just now.
stavros halkias
What?
jamie vernon
I found a video of the test.
stavros halkias
No!
joe rogan
Put it up.
stavros halkias
The actual test?
Yeah.
joe rogan
Let's go.
Put it up.
stavros halkias
I love learning, dude.
I love science.
joe rogan
Put it up there.
unidentified
Whoa!
stavros halkias
No!
This can't be the fucking actual test.
joe rogan
Let me see this.
jamie vernon
I don't know if there's sound or not.
joe rogan
Well, the audience can't see this, right?
stavros halkias
What the fuck is this?
unidentified
Yo!
jamie vernon
What am I looking at?
stavros halkias
That's his fingers and her pussy from the back.
Those are ass cheeks.
jamie vernon
And this is the blue liquid.
See, there's blue liquid everywhere.
stavros halkias
Yo, that's him fucking!
Oh, you see her tits.
jamie vernon
There's blue liquid coming out.
stavros halkias
First of all, that has not been my experience.
It's dribbling out.
joe rogan
Look at them.
There's someone else under there catching it.
stavros halkias
That's what's crazy.
unidentified
That's sick, dude.
joe rogan
And look at those untamed Asian bushes.
stavros halkias
It looks like the other guy.
Oh, wow.
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
stavros halkias
Now we're talking.
That's what I... Oh, my God.
joe rogan
Look at her go.
stavros halkias
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Look, they're collecting it.
unidentified
This girl's got it trimmed, though.
joe rogan
Oh my god, this is so wild.
jamie vernon
You can tell it's not porn, though, because it's not blurred.
joe rogan
You're right, this is fucking science.
stavros halkias
I'm not hard at all, honestly.
joe rogan
They should do that for all porn from Japan.
unidentified
Just making science experiments.
jamie vernon
The music's nice touch.
stavros halkias
Yeah, the music's relaxing.
joe rogan
This is insane.
stavros halkias
Dude, this man is going after it.
Can we see his penis?
joe rogan
I don't think they'll let you see his penis.
stavros halkias
Oh, wow.
unidentified
That's...
joe rogan
I mean, she's basically pissing out Blue Kool-Aid.
Look at that.
That is so crazy.
She's peeing!
She's just peeing.
stavros halkias
But the one girl, the one was squirting.
You see that geyser?
That fucking pop.
joe rogan
She was peeing.
stavros halkias
I don't know, man.
joe rogan
That's what girls do if they were peeing.
If they had to pee and just laid on their back and peed, it would just squirt up in the air.
stavros halkias
Yeah, I guess you're right.
joe rogan
Yeah, of course I'm right.
unidentified
Jesus Christ.
What are you talking about?
I want to believe, Joe.
joe rogan
I know you do.
I know you do.
It's fascinating.
stavros halkias
I want to believe, brother.
joe rogan
I'm just really obsessed with this fucking Japanese department of urology that did this.
That's what's fascinating.
stavros halkias
I want to know about the guy.
joe rogan
They got this run up the flagpole.
stavros halkias
You should get the guy in here.
joe rogan
Maybe.
But those fucking doctors, they ran up the flagpole to, like, who?
And they were like, yeah, let's go.
Let's go.
stavros halkias
We got a little extra money in the fucking...
That feels like they're going to be under budget unless they have one more study.
And they let one guy be like, what if we checked out a squirt is pissed?
unidentified
They're like...
stavros halkias
Beautiful idea.
joe rogan
I wonder how much money they spent to check out if Squirt is piss.
Jamie, will you send me that article?
This needs further investigation.
jamie vernon
I'm still investigating this right now.
joe rogan
Please just text me that article.
jamie vernon
Yes.
stavros halkias
So there's five women.
There's one guy.
He only fucks them once.
Is it an afternoon?
unidentified
Who knows?
joe rogan
He's probably banging them for months.
stavros halkias
Yeah, do you think they kept in touch afterwards?
joe rogan
They have money.
They probably put together a whole series of bangs.
Wow.
You can't just count on one.
It's like you're filming a special.
stavros halkias
That's true.
joe rogan
You want to have a few shows.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
stavros halkias
I also like they recruited him, but they had to recruit good squirters too.
Reliable squirters.
joe rogan
Reliable.
Girls had squirted multiple times.
But some women pee if they laugh.
stavros halkias
True.
joe rogan
I mean, that's kind of probably similar.
The involuntary reaction.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Do they squirt when they're orgasming or they just squirt in the middle of intercourse?
stavros halkias
No, no.
Orgasm.
joe rogan
Only?
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
Is that what they tell you?
stavros halkias
Listen, like I said, I've been very upfront with having disgusting squirt in my mouth.
Why would I start lying now, Joe?
I've established my bona fides.
joe rogan
Oh my god, good point.
unidentified
Thank you.
joe rogan
Very good point.
stavros halkias
So you've never encountered it, or you have?
joe rogan
No, I've never encountered it.
unidentified
Wow!
joe rogan
No.
stavros halkias
Interesting.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, it wasn't a thing when I was a kid, man.
stavros halkias
You think it's learned behavior?
joe rogan
I think it came about because of porn.
stavros halkias
Interesting.
joe rogan
I mean, I'm sure, let me be clear, I'm sure it was happening before porn, but it was never a thing that was discussed.
stavros halkias
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
When I was in high school, my friends, no one ever talked about a squirter.
Kids in high school talk about squirters now.
stavros halkias
That's true.
joe rogan
They'll go, I heard she's a squirter.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
They make things up.
They just heard of the term squirter.
They've heard someone say a girl's a squirter.
stavros halkias
Well, they know more now, these children.
What was the wildest shit anybody did?
Was anal the most wild shit anybody would do?
There was no squirting?
joe rogan
There was no, I think, even anal back then.
stavros halkias
It felt like a taboo.
joe rogan
Yeah, and girls didn't shave.
stavros halkias
It was chaos.
joe rogan
First mentioned in the 7th century poem, female ejaculation and the Graftenberg spot, the G-spot, are described in detail in most works of Kama Sutra.
In ancient Western writings, the emission of female fluid is mentioned even earlier, depicted at about 300 BC by Aristotle in the 2nd century by Galen.
So even Aristotle got duped.
They didn't have a piss study.
So this magical piss study from Japan...
unidentified
Really?
joe rogan
Wait, Aristotle was in the dark?
He's like, bro, I'm telling you, I get him to squirt.
stavros halkias
Yeah, they're not pissing, bro.
joe rogan
There was no squirters.
No one talked about it.
stavros halkias
Maybe that's why they killed Socrates, because he said it was piss.
They're like, shut the fuck up.
joe rogan
Probably.
Aristotle was like, shut the fuck up.
What did I tell you, bitch?
stavros halkias
Let me believe!
I'm not drinking piss.
Now drink this hemlock.
joe rogan
Piss is gross.
jamie vernon
A law, at least in 2014, a law in the UK where guidelines state it's fine to depict a woman gagging on a dick, but female ejaculation can only be shown in short sequences.
stavros halkias
Wow.
jamie vernon
Cannot land on anyone and cannot be consumed.
stavros halkias
Cannot land?
Cannot be consumed.
joe rogan
Cannot be consumed.
The UK has strict guidelines when it comes to piss.
stavros halkias
How did this become an issue for them?
Like in porn or just in movies?
jamie vernon
Porn, porn, porn.
unidentified
VOD porn.
joe rogan
You can't show squirt and porn.
They're still holding on to any type of control they have over people.
stavros halkias
The empire's over, you pieces of shit.
joe rogan
But imagine...
stavros halkias
Let people drink squirt.
joe rogan
Imagine if you're a grown adult, and you're the one who's passing rules, and you're like, here's one we have to address.
Do we or do we not let folks pee on each other?
stavros halkias
Well, I find it rather distasteful when they drink the squirt.
joe rogan
Can we make a compromise?
stavros halkias
Perhaps.
joe rogan
I would say, what if the squirt doesn't land on anyone?
And what if it's only for a short duration?
Let's put a time limit on the squirt.
I believe five seconds is sufficient.
stavros halkias
Female ejaculating?
unidentified
Oh no, that won't do.
Unfortunately, it is piss.
Kill him!
stavros halkias
I love this idea.
I love this idea that this is like the biggest conspiracy.
This is like, you know, now only the Japanese have brought it to light.
joe rogan
But it's interesting because that would have never been, that research would have never been done in America.
And if it was done in America, it would seem creepy.
It would seem like there's some doctors trying to fuck some patients.
But because it's done in Japan, I'm like, oh, they probably follow the rules.
stavros halkias
They probably did it exactly.
They bowed to the pussy after every time.
Yeah, thank you.
Respectful.
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
I feel like...
stavros halkias
Yeah, here it would be weird.
joe rogan
It doesn't bother me.
But if I found that it came out of Cincinnati, I'd be like, oh, this fucking freak.
stavros halkias
What agenda do they have?
joe rogan
Like that doctor.
What was his name?
Keyes?
No.
What was that sex doctor, the famous sex doctor they made a documentary about?
stavros halkias
Dr. Ruth?
joe rogan
No.
stavros halkias
Oh, no.
Kinsey.
joe rogan
Kinsey, yes.
stavros halkias
Was it a documentary?
Didn't Liam Neeson play him?
joe rogan
That was right.
It was a movie.
It wasn't a documentary.
I think there has been a documentary as well.
stavros halkias
There's probably a documentary about him as well.
joe rogan
This guy was into some wild shit.
stavros halkias
Oh, yeah?
joe rogan
And so much of what, like, people quote his studies, you know, as if, like, this is information that we now know about people and sexuality.
But hold on.
Coming from who?
stavros halkias
Yeah, Kinsey.
Some freak in a lab coat.
joe rogan
Yeah, what are you into, buddy?
stavros halkias
Oh, hell yeah.
joe rogan
Widely regarded as the first major figure in American sexology.
His research helped pave the way for a deeper exploration of sexuality amongst sexologists and the greater public, as well as liberating female sexuality.
But what is the controversial aspects of his work, though?
There was some controversial shit about him.
stavros halkias
The thing I know about him is the Kinsey scale, which is basically saying no one's fully gay, no one's fully straight.
It's like zero is you're the gayest guy of all time, five is you're the straightest guy of all time, I think.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Which seems to make sense.
joe rogan
Well, I would imagine...
If you lived in Rome in times, everybody would be gay.
But as a straight man...
stavros halkias
The curve...
joe rogan
A straight man...
stavros halkias
You've grown on a curve in Rome.
joe rogan
Who's reproduced.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're lying if you think that if you were born in Rome...
stavros halkias
Let's get into it.
joe rogan
...in one B.C. that you wouldn't be engaging in gay sex.
stavros halkias
Get your dick sucked after a nice bath.
joe rogan
They all did it.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
So what are you gonna do?
You gonna be the one guy that doesn't get your dick sucked?
stavros halkias
No.
joe rogan
One guy that doesn't suck a little cock?
stavros halkias
Come on, dude.
You're bringing down the vibes, dude.
joe rogan
And I think there was a thing back then with men where they would go to war and they'd go on these campaigns.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they're just a bunch of horny dudes fucking each other.
stavros halkias
Oh, yeah.
joe rogan
And it became, if it's acceptable, it's way more convenient.
stavros halkias
Right.
Matter of...
I mean, the Spartans were gay as hell.
unidentified
Gay as hell!
stavros halkias
They barely saw...
They only saw women to fuck them to reproduce and then they're just hanging out in the barracks and they're fucking each other.
There's no way around it.
joe rogan
Fighting like savages.
That's what's crazy.
Some of the scariest armies in history were gay.
stavros halkias
Absolutely.
joe rogan
Wild!
stavros halkias
The British, they were taking over the world and fucking each other in the ass on the ships.
What do you think was going on in that long boat ride to India?
joe rogan
Bro, why do you think pirates dress like that?
Why has a pirate got a scarf on and big earrings?
Shut the fuck up.
That guy's gay as fuck.
jamie vernon
Sorry to bring it back to this ejaculation.
joe rogan
Oh my god, Jamie's obsessed.
jamie vernon
They did not have one guy do it, apparently.
joe rogan
Most of the samples also contain prostate-specific antigen, which does not originate in the bladder.
stavros halkias
That's what I'm talking about.
joe rogan
That suggests that squirting is not entirely composed of urine.
stavros halkias
That's the Kool-Aid powder in my hypothesis.
It's the prostate-specific antigens.
joe rogan
Three were able to use their hands alone to squirt, while the other two required penetrative sexual stimulation.
In this case, from two male partners to squirt.
She was getting tag-teamed?
jamie vernon
No, no.
Each of them had their own guy.
joe rogan
Oh, I see.
stavros halkias
That makes sense.
The guy's going to get tight.
joe rogan
Maybe the girl's like, I can squirt, but I need two dicks.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
This only happened five times.
stavros halkias
Maybe a thumb in my ass, too.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Someone needs to choke me.
Who's got a tie?
unidentified
Yeah.
stavros halkias
They all do.
unidentified
It's all science.
joe rogan
This is science.
This is the only way to get a sample.
jamie vernon
I love it.
joe rogan
Males can apparently square two.
What the fuck are you talking about?
You're peeing, buddy.
stavros halkias
No, this is bullshit.
joe rogan
We've gone too far.
No, no, no.
See, this is where your belief system falls apart.
stavros halkias
No, don't do this to me.
joe rogan
International Journal of Urology described a man who ejaculated, then 20 seconds later squirted for about a minute.
This fluid was analyzed and also confirmed to be mostly urine.
Bro, you peed.
stavros halkias
I'm talking about female squirt.
Get this fucking bullshit out of here.
Don't lock me in with these fucking lunatics.
What I'm talking about is good, honest women's pussy squirting.
joe rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
It's pee.
joe rogan
Look, the description of the experiment sounds notably uncomfortable as it involved an ultrasound probe inserted into the man's rectum used to measure contractions in the bladder.
What the fuck?
Our studies suck so hard compared to Japan studies.
stavros halkias
You get the nice green tea.
joe rogan
I mean, Japan had a nail.
This guy's got a fucking radar machine up his ass.
stavros halkias
He's glowing.
His balls are glowing red.
joe rogan
What the fuck are you doing?
What are you doing to that guy?
stavros halkias
I've never heard of male squirting.
joe rogan
But also, if you've got something up your ass, your body's behaving differently.
stavros halkias
Yeah, absolutely.
joe rogan
If you had a finger up your ass and you peed, it would be different.
stavros halkias
It would be different.
It would be different.
You've got a rod up your ass.
How do we know the rod's not pressing on the fish?
joe rogan
The rod probably feels good to him.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's probably a little stimulating inside.
It's like, oh, I was squirting.
stavros halkias
Bro, it's peeing.
He peed.
joe rogan
You're a fucking weirdo.
stavros halkias
You just peed.
unidentified
But I've never heard of that.
joe rogan
You didn't even hold it in.
stavros halkias
Yeah, hold it in, man.
joe rogan
Maybe you can't hold it in if you have that rod in your ass.
Maybe it makes it more difficult.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, I just did some kegels.
joe rogan
Right, like I would imagine.
stavros halkias
I just squeezed.
joe rogan
It might affect performance.
stavros halkias
Yeah, if I got a big rod on my ass, I'm probably pissing too.
joe rogan
I'll probably be like, my life's already over.
I'm just going to piss all over these sheets.
Everybody, fuck you.
stavros halkias
Yeah, I mean, male squirting is definitely pissing.
There's some common ground.
joe rogan
And girl squirting is pissing too, yeah.
stavros halkias
You're really fucking fine.
I admitted it, man.
Stop rubbing my nose in it.
joe rogan
I just want to, like, respect the Japan Institute of Urology.
unidentified
You're right, you're right.
joe rogan
What's the name of the organization again?
jamie vernon
I mean, there's the International Institute.
joe rogan
International.
They brought it worldwide.
unidentified
A lot of scientists are like, how do I get in on some of these tests?
stavros halkias
I also want to know.
joe rogan
I hate y'all running some tests.
jamie vernon
It's in the International Journal of Urology.
joe rogan
International Journal of Urology.
stavros halkias
And let's shout them out.
Miyabi Inouye, Yuki Segaguchi, Noriko Ninomiya, Tomoko Kobayashi, Muto Araki.
joe rogan
Dude, you're really good at pronouncing names.
You want a job?
stavros halkias
Yeah.
unidentified
You can work here.
joe rogan
You just pronounce names for me because I can't do it.
I'm fucking terrible at it.
Can you say what the university or what the organization was that put it together?
stavros halkias
First publish?
joe rogan
What was the...
I mean, there was an institute that published it.
stavros halkias
Yeah, click that.
joe rogan
Does it say down there?
It was something Japan Institute of Urology or something like that, wasn't it?
stavros halkias
Go up to the very first.
joe rogan
Which is even wilder, right?
Hit the PDF. Because it's a urology.
stavros halkias
No, that link.
joe rogan
The link up there?
stavros halkias
No, that link up there.
Oh, we have to have access.
joe rogan
Oh, these sons of bitches.
stavros halkias
Well, salute to the proud Japanese people.
joe rogan
Anyway, whoever did it, way to go.
stavros halkias
Female ejaculation and squirting is similar but comparatively different phenomenon.
unidentified
A narrative.
stavros halkias
A narrative review of current research.
joe rogan
There's a lot of people in denial.
There's a lot of people who want to believe in leprechauns, like I'm telling you.
stavros halkias
Yeah, but it's fun, you know?
joe rogan
Leprechauns are real.
Like, no, you ate mushrooms.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Yeah, but maybe that's how you meet leprechauns.
stavros halkias
That's true.
It might be.
Now we need to do a little research.
joe rogan
I'm into that research.
I think that research is good for humanity.
That's some real research.
stavros halkias
I mean, yeah, a tree on mushrooms told me to date a woman I would date for two years, and it was nice.
Wow, interesting.
In Seattle, I'm on mushrooms.
I'm like, what should I do with my life?
joe rogan
Boy, they should make those legal.
They should make those legal and come up with the right doses for people and develop centers where professionals can introduce people to them.
Because just what they've found with people recovering, like soldiers coming back from the war, it's one of the very best things to help them get over it.
Just that alone, you would think that that's a resource that's very valuable.
If you require of people to go to a foreign land and kill people they don't know, and then when they come back, you just don't address the fact that their mind is completely fucked, or you purposely ignore One ancient method that's not dangerous, that's been shown to be effective.
And if you're worried about abuse, I get it.
I get the worry about abuse.
But we need to figure out places where you have treatment centers for people that do wind up abusing things, and that you also have Trained physicians that can determine the effective dose and give you a pure product where you don't have to worry about buying it off some fucking weirdo you met in a parking lot.
stavros halkias
Some hippie versus some mushrooms.
joe rogan
Mushrooms and fentanyl.
stavros halkias
I think there are some stuff like that.
joe rogan
Well, they just denied it in California.
stavros halkias
Oh, what?
joe rogan
Yeah, which I would think of any place that would take it.
But Newsom, even though I don't agree with him on most things, I actually saw his point.
Because he was saying that they didn't submit a protocol for use and for a bunch of other things.
Like, if it's going to be used therapeutically, like, what are the guidelines?
stavros halkias
Right, right.
joe rogan
How does it get administered?
They were just kind of decriminalizing it.
unidentified
Yeah, come on.
joe rogan
Let's do it.
And he felt like it should be decriminalized with information.
stavros halkias
Medically first.
The same way weed was at first.
joe rogan
Come up with a protocol.
Come up with, like, this is what we can fall back on.
This is what we know you should do.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
Like Amsterdam, they're legal, but it's like truffles.
It's like the fresh ones.
You can only buy certain doses.
But those bad boys will fuck you up.
joe rogan
They'll all fuck you up.
When Duncan Trussell lived in Asheville, he lived in North Carolina.
Yeah.
And they started putting certain chemicals into the cow's feed to keep them from making mushrooms.
Because so many of them made mushrooms.
Because apparently the spores are everywhere up there.
unidentified
Really?
stavros halkias
Yeah.
It's a mushroom's town in Asheville.
joe rogan
But that's why the town's fucked now.
stavros halkias
They took the mushrooms away?
joe rogan
Well, you're filled with crime now.
Asheville, Duncan was telling me, has a crazy high crime rate.
stavros halkias
Really?
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
I haven't been there for 10 years, but it felt like a real hippie town.
joe rogan
What's the crime rate of Asheville, North Carolina?
stavros halkias
A lot of fucking wind chimes are getting stolen.
joe rogan
All their money went away during the pandemic.
I would imagine that ramped up crime everywhere.
Everybody's forced to not work.
Also, it's a small town.
It's not like a big, robust town that's backed up by a big industry or anything like that.
stavros halkias
Well, are those people like service workers?
Because I had friends in New York who were like, they were on unemployment and they were like, whoa, this is better than my shitty job.
joe rogan
That was a problem.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
That was definitely a problem.
And that made me rethink universal basic income.
stavros halkias
Like pro or negative?
joe rogan
Well, I used to be pro.
I used to be super pro universal basic income.
And my thought was, if you give people, no.
stavros halkias
I thought it was, I mean, I can only speak from like, this isn't like, you know, a study.
But it helped the people I knew, where it was like, it didn't, like, they didn't get lazy.
They were just like, holy shit, I can pay my bills.
unidentified
That's unemployment.
joe rogan
That's unemployment.
I'm talking about universal basic income.
So universal basic income would be that everybody gets a certain amount a month, like $1,200.
And the idea is you never have to worry about food, you never have to worry about shelter.
And now you can pursue whatever you want to do.
stavros halkias
Right, right, right.
joe rogan
Part of me thinks there's going to be a bunch of people that never do anything.
They're just going to live off that $12.
stavros halkias
Which is fine though, right?
joe rogan
Kind of.
But if that wasn't available to them, would they figure out a path in life?
And how many people get tripped up by winning a lottery ticket?
Don't all of them get tripped up by winning a lottery?
Doesn't everybody get tripped up?
stavros halkias
It's pretty high, yeah, unless you do certain things.
joe rogan
There's a human psychology aspect to giving people free shit that I don't think is beneficial.
I just don't think it's beneficial.
I don't think there's anything wrong with having a social safety net.
I feel like welfare is important.
I feel like food stamps are important.
I feel like healthcare is important.
All those things are very important.
And education.
stavros halkias
I fully support that.
joe rogan
I mean, if you're going to use taxes, I fully support using...
stavros halkias
Let's do that instead of tanks.
joe rogan
Yeah.
Well, that's the best one.
But I kind of think that people need to do things.
And I kind of think giving people free money is a bad idea.
stavros halkias
Yeah, I mean, I think given those two options, I much prefer a social safety net for that reason.
joe rogan
100%.
stavros halkias
It's like even if your job is kind of bullshit, if your basic human needs are taken care of, you still go to work and make ends meet, but it's like if you get sick, you're not worried that you're going to fucking bankrupt, your life's over.
joe rogan
But the thing is, you're not contributing if you're not doing anything.
stavros halkias
Right.
joe rogan
If you're just taking that 1,200 bucks and you're just living and you're not contributing at all, you're literally a sponge.
I think people would feel better if they had something that they did that gave them a sense of purpose, whatever it is.
And I think that trying to find that thing and be successful at that thing is a part of the process that everybody has to go through to find themselves.
And you deny someone that thing if you just give them free money.
Now, I'm not saying that you shouldn't be able to give money to unemployed single mothers, people who get fucked over by society, you know, you get fired, you have a monthly nut.
I think we should have a social safety.
I think it's important.
But I also think if you just gave people money...
A lot of people wouldn't do shit.
More people than would.
The rare person that even with that free money says, I'm going to take this fucking money and I'm going to spend half of it and I'm going to invest the other half and I'm going to get a job as well.
And I'm going to go out there and I'm going to fucking make something.
There's some of those people, but those are super rare.
stavros halkias
No, you're right about that.
joe rogan
It's human nature, man.
stavros halkias
And I think the thing...
Yeah, I think the...
I prefer what you're saying is like, yeah, let's get...
Let's cover our bases, which we don't do right now.
joe rogan
Right.
stavros halkias
And I think the thing that...
I think just as likely for...
If you give somebody free money, they're not going to do shit.
We're fucking trapped in this opposite thing where it's like people have to fucking work hard as shit to barely make it.
joe rogan
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Where it's like that zapping all that human potential too because those people are just surviving...
They don't have time to fucking...
Because they just have to make rent fucking...
Everything is more expensive.
You don't have any time to fucking...
And I do agree with you that kind of the middle ground is get their basic needs met and then let them be able to work but not have to fucking work, you know...
60 hours a week or whatever the fuck, or work 40 hours, but it's grueling for less pay.
Because you do need that time.
You need that space to...
I think you're absolutely correct.
joe rogan
If you want to get ahead and you want to figure your own path in life, you've got to have some time.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's going to either cut into your sleep or it's going to cut into your social life.
But you're going to need some time.
stavros halkias
Totally.
joe rogan
And that's the one benefit for a motivated person for universal basic income.
stavros halkias
Right.
joe rogan
But my feeling was when I watched everybody during the pandemic when they were all getting...
How many people did want to go back to work?
They just wanted that free money.
I was like, ooh, this is wild.
stavros halkias
I mean, but some of that also is that they were like...
Because my friends were like, what the fuck?
This is like the...
Like, I'm making less money working hard as fuck...
On what unemployment pays like this is what the government thinks you barely need to subsist and when I go back to work I make less than this and I work fucking hard as shit I mean it's also a problem of like I think people also saw in that moment how mistreated they were being and how underpaid they were being a lot of the time where it's like this low pay which it wasn't that much money right well they started ramping up pay a lot of places after the pandemic Yeah.
joe rogan
They ramped up pay everywhere.
Like, they advertise, like, high pay.
Like, places like McDonald's.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what does McDonald's pay now?
I think it pays, like, $18 an hour or something like that.
unidentified
Right.
joe rogan
What is, how much does McDonald's pay?
stavros halkias
I think it depends.
joe rogan
I was walking through Buc-ee's yesterday.
stavros halkias
Buc-ee's is famous for paying well.
joe rogan
Buc-ee's is a shit.
I was looking at, like, if you're a manager, you make a quarter million dollars a year.
stavros halkias
Pretty sick.
I'm like, damn!
And probably the only place where that's kept pace with inflation.
jamie vernon
It still says pretty low, depending on...
stavros halkias
Well, yeah, see...
joe rogan
21 to 21. 21. 20. 7.25 is in, like, Dothan, Alabama.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
But I wonder, I wonder, even this...
joe rogan
Oh, Austin, Texas?
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
7.25 to 20. Boy, that's a big jump.
stavros halkias
That's probably, like...
joe rogan
That's three times as much.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's a cashier.
jamie vernon
Yeah.
joe rogan
That's what a cashier makes, not a manager.
stavros halkias
That's good.
joe rogan
The manager gets double that, son.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
But even the place where they're ramping up pay, I wonder what that even is in comparison to inflation from that same job in 1970. That's a good question.
You know what I mean?
joe rogan
1255. 1255. National average.
Did you see that video?
There was a video that was going around today of people in Chicago that are furious That the government is giving so much money to all these immigrants that have illegally migrated into Chicago.
stavros halkias
No, I didn't see that.
joe rogan
They're giving them cell phone and twelve hundred bucks, whatever it is.
And these people are fucking freaking out.
And these people that were Democrats are like, hey, if Trump wants to talk to us, come talk to us.
We're tired of this shit.
And I'm like, wow, this is wild to see.
These people are waking up like, why are you giving people that aren't even from here All this money and a free phone and all this shit.
You're not giving anything to us?
stavros halkias
I mean, yeah, that is fucked.
It's fucked.
I think those people deserve...
But we're seeing this like, why aren't regular people getting that same shit?
Why doesn't everybody just get that?
Why is that person getting special treatment where it's like, we're just fucked?
I mean, that's the safety net shit.
joe rogan
They shouldn't get it either.
What they're doing is they're trying to buy votes.
That's what I think they're doing.
unidentified
I see, I see, I see.
joe rogan
They're trying to get rid of voter ID and they're trying to bring people in or allow people to get in and make it easy for them to travel all around the country.
And if someone let you in the country, wouldn't you vote for them?
stavros halkias
But they can't vote, can they?
joe rogan
Well, what if they can?
But they're talking about not having voter ID. What do you think?
They were talking about it in New York.
They were going to try to make it so that if you weren't a citizen, you could still vote in New York.
stavros halkias
Interesting.
joe rogan
That was something that was discussed, right?
stavros halkias
I don't know.
joe rogan
Google that thing about New York.
jamie vernon
I think it was discussed, but I don't know.
joe rogan
Attempts to have people that were immigrants capable of voting in New York, whatever you would search it under.
stavros halkias
My dad straight can't vote, and he's been here 40 years or 50-something years.
joe rogan
If they start changing things...
Look, why else would you want that many people to cross over?
I would want those people to cross over if I was one of two things.
I wanted chaos, or B, I wanted voters.
That's what Wild Wild Country did.
They brought in the homeless people.
It's the same kind of deal.
Struck down.
State Supreme Court judge from Staten Island said...
Click on it so I can read it.
So, state Supreme Court judge from Staten Island said the measure which would have allowed more than 800,000 non-citizens to vote violated the state constitution.
So, they're trying to pass this measure.
Imagine, what would be the motivation?
What would be the motivation of allowing people that Or illegal aliens.
stavros halkias
Well, they're permanent legal residents.
joe rogan
Permanent legal residents.
stavros halkias
So they're basically guys like my dad who've been here and don't have a citizenship.
joe rogan
So these are just people that are not American citizens.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah.
Like, yeah.
Somebody with their green...
I mean, some people never...
Like I said, I don't think my dad is ever going to become a citizen.
jamie vernon
Also only applied to local...
joe rogan
So non-citizens.
What's the technical term for a non-citizen?
If you're not a citizen and you're here...
stavros halkias
Illegal resident.
joe rogan
Illegal resident.
stavros halkias
No, no, legal.
joe rogan
Legal.
So do you have a green card?
stavros halkias
Yeah.
Green card.
joe rogan
Forever?
Or does it expire?
jamie vernon
Age and residency requirements.
joe rogan
Age and residency requirements.
stavros halkias
Yeah, so it's like, I mean, look, you could debate that, but it's not the same as illegal immigrants.
It's basically people that have been in that place and they don't want to become citizens that could be able to vote for municipal elections, not national elections.
joe rogan
But if you're a Democrat or if you're a Republican, let's see it on the other side.
Imagine you're a Republican and you do this.
And you say, we're going to let people who aren't even citizens vote.
Who do you think those people are going to vote for?
They're going to vote for the people that are allowing them to vote.
Yeah.
Especially if you're not politically savvy.
stavros halkias
It is kind of like the old, it's like fucking Tammany Hall, like in Gangs of New York where it's like you vote like four times and then you just bring the fucking Irish people off the boats and like shave your mustache and go vote again, like that kind of shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of that.
stavros halkias
Well, that's the old, yeah, that's how it always used to be.
joe rogan
That's how they always did it.
But the thing is, it's like, if you wanted the laws on voting to be more lax, and you wanted citizens that are here, but they're not legal, they're not...
Or legal.
Or not legal.
That's next.
stavros halkias
I don't think you'd be able to get anybody to fucking go for that.
joe rogan
How are you trying to get people to vote for someone who's not a citizen voting?
That's always been the thing.
Like, you cannot vote if you're not a citizen.
stavros halkias
I guess, just reading off that, right?
I don't know anything else.
That to me, I don't know that I would have to think about it, but it's like, what they're saying is, if you've been here a while, you're a legal resident, you're part of this community, you pay taxes, you do all that stuff, You can vote in local municipal elections.
You can't vote for fucking senator.
You can't vote for fucking president.
You can vote for alderman.
You can vote for fucking state house representative because they directly affect your thing, which is at least a reasonable argument as opposed to a non-citizen can have the full legal protection.
But I see what you're saying.
joe rogan
Here's a better argument.
Why don't you make them citizens?
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like, what are you doing?
The guy's been here for 30 years?
You think he's a spy?
stavros halkias
Yeah.
I know.
joe rogan
Like, what do they have to do?
stavros halkias
My dad...
joe rogan
Like, if someone's a productive member of society, they've been here for 20 years.
unidentified
Yeah.
joe rogan
And they work, but they just keep going from green card to green card.
Sit the guy down.
Is he cool?
unidentified
Yeah.
stavros halkias
Like, fucking let him in.
unidentified
Let him in!
stavros halkias
That's true.
I mean, I can tell you my dad didn't do it because he, like...
He got a question wrong and he spelled George Washington wrong or some shit.
That's it?
This is his recollection.
But he was not doing great at the whatever point.
He got mad and he was like, whatever, fuck it, I don't want to be an American anyway.
And he just stormed out because he just didn't ace the test.
And he never went back.
He was like, I don't give a fuck.
joe rogan
That's hilarious.
stavros halkias
So he's just been here forever.
But yeah, I get what you're saying.
If they have shown some kind of Yeah.
joe rogan
Well, it's kind of crazy that you could just be born here.
Like, if you're geographically on the right pile of dirt, you could be an American.
You fucking won the geopolitical lottery.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
unidentified
Woo!
stavros halkias
It's fucking sick.
America!
joe rogan
Fuck yeah!
stavros halkias
And then it's like, if you don't do that, it's like, Greece is a perfect example where, like, Giannis Adetokounmpo, right?
My favorite basketball player.
He's fucking awesome.
His family, they were Nigerian immigrants, and he was born in Athens.
You know, his family clearly loves Greek culture.
They named their fucking kids Greek names.
You know what I mean?
Like, he grew up there.
He didn't have anywhere...
He wasn't Nigerian, right?
He couldn't claim that.
And they didn't give him citizenship until he was a fucking famous basketball player.
Like, it's like, fucked, dude.
Where it's like, you gotta prove it.
But otherwise, it's like, what do you do if you don't...
joe rogan
But also, you have to make it kind of difficult.
Otherwise, you get spies that just come over here from Russia and become citizens and run for president.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
Like, that's a real thing, too.
stavros halkias
Yeah, we're back there.
joe rogan
I mean, isn't that what the real fear about someone like Arnold running for office?
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
They would say, oh, he's not born here.
But how nutty is that?
You have to be born here?
The fucking guy's been here most of his life.
stavros halkias
Yeah, no, that's true.
joe rogan
But even though he's a citizen, since his mother didn't have him come out of her body on this soil, it doesn't count.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
It's nuts.
stavros halkias
No, that is weird.
And I do think there was some talk of when he was...
People love that guy so much that there was some talk of trying to challenge it, but...
joe rogan
Yeah, but that...
Obviously.
But here's even crazier.
If you're born in Vancouver...
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
That does not, you're not allowed to come over here.
But if you're born in fucking Hawaii, that's five miles across, five hours across the ocean in a jet.
That's America.
stavros halkias
Dude, some guy in the 30s, we really wanted pineapples.
So that's, you know what I mean?
joe rogan
Or Alaska.
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
How about Alaska?
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
That place is nuts.
stavros halkias
Yeah, that's fucking crazy.
joe rogan
They bought that in the 1800s.
Rush is like, yeah, what the fuck are we doing with this?
What are we doing with this place?
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
Have it.
stavros halkias
It doesn't matter.
We're tired of this shit.
joe rogan
That's the greatest purchase ever.
stavros halkias
Alaska?
What about the Louisiana purchase?
joe rogan
That's pretty good.
Well, yeah, and then purchasing New York.
They go to New York for like $9.
stavros halkias
I don't know that you'd call that a purchase.
That was more like a, come on.
joe rogan
Tony Soprano type deal.
stavros halkias
I think they were just like, can we have it?
And they're like, don't even understand what they're talking about.
And they're like, he said yes!
It's ours now!
And they're like, hey, can we get this back?
And they're like, uh...
joe rogan
Imagine someone saying, can we buy this from you?
And you're like, yeah, give me $50.
stavros halkias
You're like, okay, yeah.
joe rogan
Fucking idiots.
stavros halkias
Like, nah, dude, we got them.
They said it.
Exactly, exactly.
joe rogan
They probably had no concept of it.
If you think about it, if you live in teepees and you're nomadic and you travel, the idea of owning a spot?
stavros halkias
Yeah, whatever, dude.
joe rogan
Like, what are you going to do here?
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
You're going to stay here?
stavros halkias
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
unidentified
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
stavros halkias
What if the fucking deer leave?
joe rogan
Yeah, you fucking morons.
People are morons.
They're gonna starve here.
stavros halkias
Exactly.
joe rogan
Exactly.
stavros halkias
That's what they...
Yeah, claiming it was sold is always like, come on.
joe rogan
That's a very good point that I really never considered until just now.
stavros halkias
Let's talk about squirting for another 45 minutes.
joe rogan
Native Americans squirted.
And what did they call it?
stavros halkias
The eagle's breath.
unidentified
Ah!
stavros halkias
This one will be a warrior.
Anyone conceived of the eagle's breath shall grow to be chief.
joe rogan
You ever see the video of the girl getting her vagina tattooed and she squirts in the tattooer's face?
stavros halkias
That's crazy.
joe rogan
I think it's fake though.
unidentified
Probably.
joe rogan
Do you think it's fake, Jamie?
I think it's set up.
stavros halkias
Yeah, probably.
Too perfect.
joe rogan
The angle looks too good.
It's like you're seeing her leg and he's in there and takes it in the face from the side.
stavros halkias
Nah.
joe rogan
You know, it just seems...
stavros halkias
Nah, we saw some real footage.
And for the folks that know, I'm sorry you weren't a part of this educational process.
joe rogan
Also, I would imagine if you're getting your vag tattooed, you would probably want curtains up.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
You know, you wouldn't be like out there.
jamie vernon
Yeah, that's fake as shit.
joe rogan
Yeah, let me see it.
stavros halkias
So it's running up.
jamie vernon
It looks like someone had a hose underneath her butt.
joe rogan
See, like, look.
stavros halkias
Oh, yeah, yeah.
joe rogan
She's getting her vag tattooed.
jamie vernon
Oh, that's not a great spot.
joe rogan
But she's also...
There's no way.
One more time, please.
jamie vernon
It'll reset, I'm sure.
joe rogan
But it's also...
Like, why is she getting her vag tattooed while these guys are just hanging out looking at their phone?
stavros halkias
Oh, that's like the SNL sketch where they were all throwing up with the tube out of their fucking wrist.
joe rogan
So fake.
That's so fake.
jamie vernon
I think it's coming from the side, too.
joe rogan
Yeah, it's too thick, too.
She has a dick.
If it comes out that hard, she's got a big fat hog.
stavros halkias
Dude, that's, yeah, think about that.
joe rogan
We're talking about a fucking hog.
Yeah, look at that.
That's insane.
stavros halkias
We're talking about a five-inch around dick.
joe rogan
And it looks like it's coming from below her.
stavros halkias
Yeah.
joe rogan
Like it's coming from under her cheeks.
stavros halkias
Very poorly done.
joe rogan
Well, they got me.
stavros halkias
Yeah, just like the Manhattan purchase.
joe rogan
There's so much of that now.
You never know what's real and what's fake.
stavros halkias
I know, dude.
joe rogan
Except grainy ring camera footage from third world countries of people getting shot.
stavros halkias
That's right.
joe rogan
There's a lot of that, bro.
stavros halkias
Or Russian dash cam.
joe rogan
Yeah, there's a lot of that.
stavros halkias
Those motherfuckers are getting fucked up.
joe rogan
Instagram is wild these days.
jamie vernon
Did you see that drive-by yesterday?
joe rogan
Where?
unidentified
What the fuck?
jamie vernon
There's a video that goes around, I feel like, every day that everybody ends up seeing.
Yesterday was this crazy drive-by video.
stavros halkias
Where?
jamie vernon
I don't know where.
joe rogan
Can we see it?
Let's close with that, Jamie.
Let's close with a good old American drive-by.
stavros halkias
And by the way, before we close, I brought you a calendar again.
unidentified
Another calendar!
stavros halkias
Thank you!
The Stavi Baby Erotic calendar.
Go watch the special.
Buy the calendar.
I'm naked in all of them.
May I see your titties?
A lot of good stuff.
Shot in Austin at a pool in Austin, though.
unidentified
Nice.
jamie vernon
For reference online.
joe rogan
Oh, I like the Terminator.
stavros halkias
The Terminator, huh?
joe rogan
Pretty good.
Yeah, that's fucking badass.
stavros halkias
The Olympics.
joe rogan
So this is it?
jamie vernon
Yeah, this is the video.
I'm not going to show it online, but there's a still frame if you want to find it yourself.
Look on Twitter, type in Drive-By.
unidentified
What the fuck?
jamie vernon
That's too loud to watch, but there's a whole breakdown here.
Watch this guy down here.
He's still fighting.
This guy's still fighting.
stavros halkias
Oh no, dude, that sucks.
This guy's still fighting.
unidentified
Fuck!
jamie vernon
But they come back.
The video's not over.
stavros halkias
Oh, no, dude.
Coming back.
jamie vernon
They're still shooting.
They're still shooting.
This guy's still...
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
stavros halkias
Goddamn.
jamie vernon
This definitely doesn't like America.
stavros halkias
Oh, my God.
The fuck?
jamie vernon
But they're about to come back and finish.
stavros halkias
No!
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
jamie vernon
See, this guy almost tries to get up.
stavros halkias
Oh, this fucking guy.
What are you doing, man?
jamie vernon
He's just checking.
He knows this is over now.
This is bad.
There's a guy up here.
You can't see.
And he starts unloading on him over here.
stavros halkias
Oh, no, dude.
joe rogan
Oh, my God, dude.
jamie vernon
And they all come up and finish.
unidentified
Oh, fuck!
He shot the hat off his fucking head!
joe rogan
Oh, my God, dude.
stavros halkias
That sucks, dude.
jamie vernon
It gets really more violent here.
stavros halkias
More violent?
unidentified
Yeah.
What the fuck?
jamie vernon
There's still 20 seconds left in this video.
stavros halkias
Oh, this sucks.
joe rogan
Oh, my God, dude.
stavros halkias
No, no!
unidentified
What the fuck?
joe rogan
Oh, my God.
jamie vernon
And it becomes not a drive-by anymore, too.
stavros halkias
Dude, no, don't shoot the fat guy in the house.
jamie vernon
It looks like those are the only guys that get shot here.
Very targeted.
They made sure that everyone was dead.
stavros halkias
Oh my god, what the fuck, dude?
jamie vernon
This went crazy viral yesterday.
joe rogan
Where is this supposedly taking place?
jamie vernon
I don't know.
I just saw like this is the craziest drive-by video and then I saw five more times over the day.
stavros halkias
Good god almighty.
joe rogan
There's so much of that kind of stuff now available online because of fucking these cameras and shit and cell phones.
unidentified
Like Instagram is flooded with Dude, that's fucking wild.
joe rogan
Me and Segura every day send each other shit.
Like the worst shit we could find.
I'm kind of upset that I didn't send him that.
I'll get it to him before the podcast.
stavros halkias
My Instagram is purely like, you know, is like girls with huge tits stretching.
Good for you.
joe rogan
That's a healthy algorithm.
stavros halkias
Some steaks.
I've actually been watching guys grill steaks and then girls with huge tits stretching.
Muscle mommies, of course.
Oh, I'd be remiss not to take...
I come on the show yearly to beg for muscle mommy pussy, so we did it last time if anybody's around.
I did fuck one strong girl this year.
joe rogan
Congratulations.
stavros halkias
But I'd like to get those numbers up, Joe.
joe rogan
I hear you.
This is the place to call for it.
This is probably a lot of jack girls in the gym right now going, he's funny.
How about enough big dick in my life?
stavros halkias
Yeah, no.
Come on.
And of course, watch the special, please.
joe rogan
Special.
It's out now.
stavros halkias
Out now.
Fat Rascal.
joe rogan
Fat Rascal.
stavros halkias
I'm very proud of it.
I can't, yeah.
I'm pumped.
Please watch it, folks.
unidentified
Thanks for having me, dude.
joe rogan
You're a funny motherfucker.
I appreciate you.
stavros halkias
I appreciate it.
joe rogan
It's always fun hanging out with you.
stavros halkias
This one was a banger.
joe rogan
Yes, sir.
unidentified
All right.
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